#MinecraftHelp > 2012-04-09
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#3 [00:03] <wow> Hey guys i just purchased beastnode and am having trouble with filezilla uploading to the server
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#5 [00:04] <GreyVulpine> You may need to hit up #beastnode for help, or #bn.support
#6 [00:05] <wow> i got banned from that for asking the same question like 2 times cuz i was still confused
#7 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> <+puffrfish> TG: the FTP information is available in the game panel, you do not use beastnode.com as the IP
#8 [00:10] <wow> can you ask him to get in here and help me
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#10 [00:11] <wow> Whas the FTP host for beastnode?
#11 [00:12] <Dan> wow, you wont fine that answer here so stop asking
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#13 [00:13] <wow> ok where can i get help with this then?
#14 [00:14] <Dan> join #beastnode
#15 [00:14] <GreyVulpine> If you have a problem with Beastnode's services, submit a support ticket through their site.
#16 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Support is included in the package you're paying Beastnode for, along with hosting.
#17 [00:17] <wow> how do i get unbanned from #beastnode
#18 [00:18] <Dan> that is something you need to talk to them
#19 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Looks like "TheAshley" is the person that banned you. Go send a PM to them.
#20 [00:19] <wow> im sorry im very dumb right now but how do i get ahold of her from this irc?
#21 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> /msg TheAshley Whatever_You_want_to_say
#22 [00:27] <Omega_Guardian> well that was a load of bogus :P
#23 [00:27] <wow> What?
#24 [00:27] <Omega_Guardian> just got banned from the main minecraft channel
#25 [00:28] <wow> I got banned from the main beastnode channel
#26 [00:28] <Omega_Guardian> probably greatly offended the mod/admin who banned me, after making a comment about FFX-2
#27 [00:29] <oldtopman> Omega_Guardian: Screamer link they say.
#28 [00:30] <Omega_Guardian> huh? I didn't link anything
#29 [00:30] <oldtopman> er, wrong person.
#30 [00:30] <oldtopman> No idea why you were banned, go msg the banner and ask how long it'll be.
#31 [00:30] <Omega_Guardian> alls I said was my sister played the game and it was basically exactly the stuff she likes but quit after she couldn't beat one boss
#32 [00:30] <Omega_Guardian> ah ok
#33 [00:32] <wow> i asked a question o.o
#34 [00:34] <wow> Oh my god *facepalm*
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#36 [00:38] <wow> Dan can you ask how long my ban is?
#37 [00:39] <Dan> no that is only for you to talk to them about cause im not
#38 [00:44] <wow> .... there not reponding to me
#39 [00:45] <Dan> well dont ask anyone on here to help you
#40 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> As Dan said, we're not affiliated with Beastnode in any fashion. We have no connection with them company or operator-wise.
#41 [00:47] <wow> your not the smae operator?
#42 [00:48] <Dan> no Minecraft does not any part of Bestnode at all and we will not offer any support
#43 [00:48] <GreyVulpine> wow - We are not.
#44 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> This is a completely unrelated IRC channel, with no affiliation with any hosting providers. We provide support for plain, vanilla Minecraft.
#45 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> If you have an issue with Beastnode, file a support ticket with them through: https://www.beastnode.com/portal/submitticket.php?step=2&deptid=1
#46 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to log into your Beastnode account to do so.
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#65 [03:39] <Cial> oi anyone awake?
#66 [03:39] <lemon-rev> no
#67 [03:39] <Cial> good
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#69 [03:43] <Dem0nicPaladin> ello peoples im a bit of a minecraft noob here so idk how nooby this question is buuut, how do i go about setting up my own server?
#70 [03:53] <lemon-rev> Dem0nicPaladin look around the net for general use of how to set one up, then come back with the questions you need answering
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#72 [03:54] <GeneralM13> hey people, i have a question: is there a bukkit plugin that makes monsters die when they enter a certain region?
#73 [03:56] <Wug> GeneralM13: I'd look for one that despawns them instead
#74 [03:57] <GeneralM13> that is a possibility too either is good.... but i didnt find anything yet
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#87 [05:27] <Ryoka> can anyone check if my server works? PM me if you can
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#89 [05:28] <Ryoka> anyone?
#90 [05:29] <Wug> Ryoka: post the address, we can check it with bots
#91 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> Ryoka: It can be checked right here... yeah
#92 [05:30] <Ryoka> ok Hamachi is MinecraftRyoka1 and pass: 123 and the ip is 5.64.51.67:25565
#93 [05:30] <Ryoka> thanks
#94 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> !check 5.64.51.67
#95 [05:30] <Wug> we cant use hamachi ones
#96 [05:30] <Wug> we dont support hamachi because its a hack
#97 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> ahh
#98 [05:30] <Ryoka> oh
#99 [05:30] <Wug> Ryoka: we can help you port forward properly so you dont need to use hamachi
#100 [05:31] <Ryoka> no i can't port forward my dad says he doesn't want to do something he doesn't know about
#101 [05:32] <Wug> then convince him to come here tomorrow afternoon and I'll teach him all about it
#102 [05:32] <Ryoka> uhhh I doubt it somehow....
#103 [05:32] <Wug> I'll draw pictures
#104 [05:33] <Ryoka> lol i'll look somewhere else to see if they can test it
#105 [05:38] <Ryoka> ... can nobody do it for me. I can't find anyone else
#106 [05:44] <Ryoka> please???
#107 [05:47] <Wug> Ryoka: come back tomorrow and we'll show you how to set up port forwarding
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#109 [05:49] <Ryoka> i know how to set up port forwarding but i can't!!!
#110 [05:51] <Wug> get your dad on tomorrow then and i'll convince him
#111 [05:52] <Ryoka> he won't
#112 [05:54] <Ryoka> please test my Hamachi!!!
#113 [05:58] <Ryoka> :(
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#121 [06:34] <isam> is there anyone around that can help me with an error? having problems getting past the mojang logo screen after replacing a class file. I suspect somehow my environment variable paths got changed as I can launch minecraft fine on a seperate user account and it also works with the .jar version (via the command line)
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#125 [06:44] <Wug> isam: minecraft is stored per user
#126 [06:44] <Wug> chances are you broke it when you installed the mod
#127 [06:45] <Wug> also, modded versions dont work in browser
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#129 [06:48] <isam> Wug: I realize its per user but the odd thing is that without moving the minecraft folder, it works fine from the commandline but not from the launcher itself
#130 [06:49] <Wug> isam: did you delete meta-inf
#131 [06:50] <isam> yes ofc
#132 [06:50] <isam> http://pastebin.com/xKL6XvQU is the error if it would help things
#133 [06:52] <Wug> what program did you use to replace it
#134 [06:53] <isam> betterzip 1.8.3
#135 [06:54] <isam> but I dont think it has anything to do with the replacement as a vanilla install doesnt work either
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#137 [06:54] <isam> which leads me to think that the path itself somehow managed to get modified and it doesnt "see" java
#138 [06:57] <bagel> Could someone possibly help me? I have ML and MLMP for 1.25 installed, I have forge 3.0.0.72 but i cant seem to install buildcraft! I cant get an error because the client crashes and shuts down :(
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#140 [06:59] <Wug> isam: can you try using 7zip or winrar
#141 [06:59] <Wug> bagel: what error do you et
#142 [06:59] <Wug> get*
#143 [07:01] <isam> I could but the issue doesn't seem to lie with replacing the class. The same problem occurs with a vanilla install.
#144 [07:02] <isam> so far the only thing that works is if I run "java -Xmx4048M -Xms2024M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" from the commandline
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#146 [07:02] <bagel> hold on wug, it appears to be working! ..
#147 [07:03] <Wug> isam: you could try reinstalling java. you dont by any chance have the ! fix, do you
#148 [07:04] <isam> that was my next step, yea, but as I dont have a recent local backup i'll probably have to do that tomarrow ... I don't trust myself to not screw something up at 4am :D
#149 [07:04] <isam> Wug: not sure what the ! fix is?
#150 [07:06] <Wug> does your windows username have a ! in it
#151 [07:06] <isam> Wug: I'm not on windows, so, nope ;)
#152 [07:07] <isam> Wug: anyhow, I probably should get to bed. I appreciate the help though.
#153 [07:08] <Wug> yeah, thats not you then
#154 [07:08] <Wug> come ask later and ill see if I can do anything else
#155 [07:09] <isam> will do. thanks again :)
#156 [07:11] <bagel> ahh its not working!
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#158 [07:12] <bagel> is there anyway i can get an error report without copying and pasting from client? the client crashes too quickly to grab it
#159 [07:15] <Boreeas> :ts/launcher > bagel
#160 [07:15] <Boreeas> Oh wait, it still borked
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#162 [07:16] <Wug> Boreeas: also wugbot is missing
#163 [07:21] <Boreeas> Yeah, that's what I meant
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#166 [07:54] <SpadeMan> someone help me with finiteliquid
#167 [07:54] <Wug> SpadeMan: ask in #risucraft
#168 [07:54] <SpadeMan> whats that
#169 [07:57] <SpadeMan> no one is responding
#170 [07:57] <SpadeMan> in risucraft
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#182 [08:44] <TheSwordKid> HELP!
#183 [08:44] <TheSwordKid> SOMEONE'S GOT INTO MY ACCOUNT AND CHANGED MY PASSWORD!
#184 [08:45] <Morrolan> Sounds good.
#185 [08:45] <Morrolan> I know, it's hard to think of such a complex solution, but how about resetting your password at http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword ?
#186 [08:46] <Morrolan> Respectively, if you've migrated your account, here: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#187 [08:48] <Calinou> next time get a more complicated password.
#188 [08:48] <Calinou> and also, don't get your friends on your account.
#189 [08:48] <Calinou> :P, but you can reset it anyway
#190 [09:19] <TheSwordKid> Oh... thank you
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#192 [09:29] <Morrolan> Seems it wasn't as urgent as it seemed at first. ^^
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#196 [09:36] <MC> What component is responsible for updating blocks in Minecraft?
#197 [09:36] <MC> I am playing on my friend's server and nothing is updating.
#198 [09:36] <MC> Enemies update five minutes too late.. same for chests. They dont' open/update
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#200 [09:37] <MC> Nothing even moves.
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#202 [09:37] <Morrolan> CPU? Network connection?
#203 [09:37] <MC> Perhaps network connection.
#204 [09:37] <MC> Certainly not the MC servers are responsible for this?
#205 [09:38] <MC> The game gets its textures from their servers after all.
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#207 [09:38] <Aikar> no it doesnt
#208 [09:38] <Aikar> it gets the textures from the local texture pack
#209 [09:38] <Morrolan> Err, that's not related at all. If Mojang's servers were bugged you might not be able to update, but that's about it.
#210 [09:39] <MC> Really? Once my antivirus blocked off the textures domain and my game would no longer display the textures of my friend's avatar
#211 [09:39] <MC> Allowing the domain resulted in this being fixed
#212 [09:39] <Morrolan> That is the skin though, and not the textures.
#213 [09:39] <MC> Isn't a skin a texture?
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#215 [09:39] <Morrolan> The default texture pack gets downloaded once, when you install the game for the first time.
#216 [09:39] <Aikar> and the players skins are on amazon, not MC.net
#217 [09:40] <MC> My niece is currently watching a HD stream on my network
#218 [09:40] <MC> Maybe this is causing the huge lag.
#219 [09:40] <Morrolan> Yes, a skin is a texture too. But all the other textures which don't change, that is the texture of the blocks, won't get downloaded more than once.
#220 [09:40] <Morrolan> Could very well be.
#221 [09:41] <MC> Ok thanks
#222 [09:41] * Morrolan scratches head
#222 [09:41] <Morrolan> Most likely we weren't really talking about the same thing.
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#228 [10:27] <krum> can someone help me
#229 [10:28] <Morrolan> If you were to ask your question then someone might be able to.
#230 [10:28] <krum> ok my qusetion is
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#232 [10:29] <krum> today i've played minecraft and it was ok but now i logged in the i went to the server clicked go in then:logiing in.....Downloading terrain and iv waited and nothing
#233 [10:31] <krum> do you know my problem
#234 [10:31] <krum> i mean understand
#235 [10:31] <Morrolan> Does it happen with every server you try, or with a specifc one only?
#236 [10:32] <krum> well i have only 1 but its not for 1 time
#237 [10:33] <krum> before a month ago it sayed the same and the next day i tried and i've logged
#238 [10:33] <krum> the server owner told me to restart the computer i've restarted it 2 times and again nothing
#239 [10:33] <Morrolan> Try to connect to a different server, for example minecraft.lethal-zone.eu . If that one works then tell the admin of the server you were trying to connect you to move your player.dat folder out of the world folder, most likely this will fix it. It will, however, wipe your inventory.
#240 [10:35] <krum> what does mean i mean im not engish im bulgarian and i dont understand every thing
#241 [10:38] <Morrolan> If you can connect to other servers, for example minecraft.lethal-zone.eu, then it is an issue of the server you are trying to connect to.
#242 [10:38] <Morrolan> Tell the owner of that server which you can't connect to, to remove your player.dat file from the world folder. This should fix it.
#243 [10:38] <Morrolan> It will, however, wipe your inventory.
#244 [10:39] <krum> wipe
#245 [10:39] <krum> that means destroy
#246 [10:39] <krum> ?
#247 [10:40] <Morrolan> Yes.
#248 [10:40] <krum> gulp
#249 [10:40] <krum> i have diamonds
#250 [10:40] <krum> 43
#251 [10:40] <Morrolan> In your inventory, or in a chest?
#252 [10:40] <Morrolan> If it's in a chest then they're safe.
#253 [10:41] <krum> inventory
#254 [10:41] <Morrolan> :S
#255 [10:41] <krum> WHYYYYYYY WHY MEEEEE :D
#256 [10:41] <krum> ;(
#257 [10:41] <krum> i haded bone meal
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#259 [10:41] <krum> to
#260 [10:41] <Morrolan> Well, the server owner could open your inventory with a tool like INVEdit, so he can check what you have got.
#261 [10:41] <Morrolan> Then he could spawn these things for you after having deleted your player.dat file.
#262 [10:42] <Morrolan> You could ask him if he would be willing to do so.
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#264 [10:42] <krum> well i will ask him
#265 [10:42] <krum> and i will translate it for you
#266 [10:43] <krum> ok
#267 [10:43] <krum> now i will wait for the anwser
#268 [10:43] <krum> soo...
#269 [10:43] <krum> do you have skype
#270 [10:43] <Morrolan> Nope.
#271 [10:44] <krum> bad
#272 [10:44] <krum> from what country are you
#273 [10:44] <Morrolan> Switzerland.
#274 [10:44] <krum> im from bulgaria
#275 [10:44] <krum> is there a server distance in minecraft
#276 [10:45] <Morrolan> Uh, a server distance?
#277 [10:45] <krum> i mean if i want to play a server from Switzerland can i go in?
#278 [10:45] <Morrolan> Yea.
#279 [10:46] <Morrolan> You can connect to any server you want, but the further away it is the higher your ping might be.
#280 [10:46] <krum> and there is no distance from my connection from the server
#281 [10:46] <krum> oh
#282 [10:46] <krum> do you play in a server
#283 [10:46] <Morrolan> Not regularly, no.
#284 [10:47] <Morrolan> Will be afk for a while now. Good luck with fixing your issue.
#285 [10:47] <krum> oh but what do you have cracked or the one you have to buy
#286 [10:49] <krum> ok i tried again but it sayed [12:48:14] ThE \/\/ /-\ |\|TED: Internal exceprion: java.net.socketException:Connection reset
#287 [10:49] <krum> without the wanted that is my skype name
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#289 [11:14] <Bagel> Does anyone know how I can download buildcraft? I've tried downloading it for 1.2.5 but as its a 1.2.3 download it wont work! I've now used mcnostalgia to downgrade to minecraft 1.2.3 but now the modloader downloads i use give me a blackscreen. Help please?
#290 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to download the 1.2.3 version of modloader as well
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#292 [11:20] <Bagel> Ive tried that, although i was getting it from questionable websites. I'm trying one of risugamis old docs now
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#294 [11:23] <Bagel> ok thanks dan, its working now
#295 [11:23] <Dan> ?
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#297 [11:28] <Aikar> id love to use all that fancy stuff but single player games just dont cut it for me :( I need social
#298 [11:28] <Eddie> You have plenty of social.
#299 [11:28] * Eddie opens the door
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#302 [11:51] <Kaito> is it just me, or are Iron doors missing from the creative mode menu?
#303 [11:51] <krum> hello
#304 [11:52] <krum> nope i have iron doors in minecraft creative mode
#305 [11:52] <Kaito> nevermind
#306 [11:52] <Kaito> The organization is just bad
#307 [11:52] <krum> yep
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#309 [11:53] <Kaito> im building a castle...to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjlBCAx6330&feature=related
#310 [11:53] <Calinou> they aren't
#311 [11:53] <Calinou> jeb, go implement creative menu searching 8)
#312 [11:54] <Calinou> they are*
#313 [11:55] <Kaito> either that, or a better organization system
#314 [11:56] <Morrolan> Preferrably both. ;D
#315 [12:01] <sugoi> "creative menu searching" ?
#316 [12:01] <sugoi> ah
#317 [12:01] <sugoi> got it
#318 [12:07] <Kaito> whatever notch did to 1.2.5 slowed down the pistons of T-flipflops :(
#319 [12:17] <sugoi> Kaito: slowed down as in, added a tick and broke your design?
#320 [12:18] <Kaito> no, slowed down as in...build a binary counter using t-flip flops from pistons, and you'll see what I mean
#321 [12:18] <Kaito> im testing a design for a combo lock using 4 binary counters
#322 [12:18] <Kaito> and i just noticed a slight slow down
#323 [12:18] <sugoi> Kaito: i built some pretty cool combo locks myself :)
#324 [12:19] <sugoi> i have an 8bit one
#325 [12:19] <sugoi> but i don't use any adders, but pretty of t flipflops
#326 [12:19] <sugoi> plenty*
#327 [12:19] <sugoi> pretty? don't know where that came from
#328 [12:19] <Kaito> My one "problem" right now is how to get my "submit" button to reset all the counters to zero
#329 [12:19] <sugoi> at any rate, if you would humor me, try to explain what you are seeing
#330 [12:19] <sugoi> i'm at work and can't enjoy the "test it" :)
#331 [12:20] <Kaito> okay, so i have 4 buttons, 1, 2, 3, and 4
#332 [12:20] <Kaito> each one is hooked up to a 2 bit binary counter
#333 [12:20] <Kaito> and the outputs of those binary counters are hooked up to and gates
#334 [12:20] <Kaito> so, my button pushes would look like 11122344
#335 [12:20] <Kaito> so that the counters achieve the right value
#336 [12:20] <sugoi> ah
#337 [12:21] <sugoi> i feel that's much more complicated than it needs to be
#338 [12:21] <Kaito> it is :P
#339 [12:21] <Kaito> but
#340 [12:21] <Kaito> I didn't look this design up
#341 [12:21] <sugoi> well good!
#342 [12:21] <Kaito> Im horrible with redstone...i cant think of most things
#343 [12:21] <sugoi> i'm totally support fresh experiements like that
#344 [12:21] <sugoi> good for you
#345 [12:22] <sugoi> i*, not i'm
#346 [12:22] <sugoi> i didn't get much sleep last night
#347 [12:22] <sugoi> can i share the design i came up with?
#348 [12:22] <Kaito> go ahead
#349 [12:22] <sugoi> or are you interested in getting yours to work first
#350 [12:22] <Kaito> share yours
#351 [12:22] <Kaito> i'll get mine to work later :P
#352 [12:22] <sugoi> ok, sec [gathering thoughts]
#353 [12:23] <Kaito> Im not terribly bad at binary stuff (I used to be a comp sci major), so dont feel like you have to dumb it down too much :P
#354 [12:23] <sugoi> actually
#355 [12:23] <sugoi> i wasn't going to dumb it down, i was checking wiki to help me remember which gates i used - i built it months ago
#356 [12:24] <Kaito> aaah
#357 [12:25] <sugoi> first
#358 [12:25] <sugoi> you could use t flipflops (toggle is nice)
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#360 [12:26] <sugoi> i also built one using rs nor latch (stays on until reset)
#361 [12:26] <Kaito> right
#362 [12:26] <sugoi> the benefit was the rs nor latch is easy to 'reset' all inputs
#363 [12:26] <Kaito> that is true...
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#365 [12:26] <sugoi> i'm sure you could put an AND on the t-flipflop to get this too
#366 [12:26] <sugoi> i'd loko into that if toggling is your goal
#367 [12:26] <Kaito> or
#368 [12:26] <Kaito> hm...
#369 [12:26] <Kaito> i just thought of an idea to toggle t-flip flops to zero
#370 [12:27] <sugoi> s/toggle/reset/
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#372 [12:27] <Kaito> reset flip flops to zero
#373 [12:27] <Kaito> there's a design for a piston clock
#374 [12:27] <Kaito> my primordial thought is to somehow, once the "reset" button is activated, get the counters to do a loop until the output is zero
#375 [12:28] <Kaito> like, for a two bit counter
#376 [12:28] <Kaito> the clock would cycle until both bits are zero
#377 [12:28] <sugoi> that would work
#378 [12:28] <sugoi> but just feels way too heavy
#379 [12:28] <Kaito> but the more complex in minecraft, the better it is :P
#380 [12:28] <sugoi> reset should just be a big sledge hammer
#381 [12:28] <sugoi> haha
#382 [12:29] <sugoi> so, for input validation, xnor bits 0&1, and 2&3, then xnor those two
#383 [12:29] <sugoi> for me, when the 'submit' button is pressed, i had two actions
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#385 [12:29] <sugoi> woah woah
#386 [12:29] <sugoi> sorry
#387 [12:29] <sugoi> i said that wrong
#388 [12:30] <sugoi> you xnor bits INPUT_0 with LOCK_0, and INPUT_1 with LOCK_1
#389 [12:30] <sugoi> sorry about that
#390 [12:30] <sugoi> then, you AND each result
#391 [12:30] <sugoi> so
#392 [12:30] <sugoi> (INPUT_0 XNOR LOCK_0) AND (INPUT_1 XNOR LOCK_1) AND ...
#393 [12:30] <sugoi> then, the 'submit' button's signal does two things
#394 [12:30] <Kaito> okay, i kinda see where you're going with that
#395 [12:31] <sugoi> 1. SUBMIT && RESULT => open device/door
#396 [12:31] <sugoi> 2. reset all inputs
#397 [12:32] <sugoi> my best design in doing this (and also like my 5th full design) -- i actually got the inputs on one wall to be in a 2x4 block panel (no spacing between inputs!)
#398 [12:32] <sugoi> so 8 bits
#399 [12:32] <sugoi> all buttons too
#400 [12:32] <Kaito> damn
#401 [12:33] <Kaito> thats pretty fucking sweet
#402 [12:33] * AuBot kicked Kaito from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aito :Please keep it civil.)
#403 [12:33] <sugoi> and i used a 2x4 of torches to the left to show which buttons were 'pressed'
#404 [12:33] <sugoi> haha, thanks
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#406 [12:33] <Kaito> woops
#407 [12:33] <sugoi> later today i'd be glad to show you
#408 [12:33] <Kaito> in about how many hours?
#409 [12:33] <sugoi> [like in 10 hours :)]
#410 [12:33] <sugoi> haha
#411 [12:33] <Kaito> um
#412 [12:34] <Kaito> i could probably do that
#413 [12:34] <sugoi> it's 9:30 am for me, and i put my kid down at 7pm, so after that i get free time
#414 [12:35] <Kaito> 11:35 AM for me :P
#415 [12:35] <sugoi> and i work really until then
#416 [12:35] <Kaito> I will attempt to be on in like 8-10 hours
#417 [12:36] <sugoi> well i'll check here then
#418 [12:36] <Kaito> sounds awesome :)
#419 [12:36] <sugoi> do you know how to make compact panels?
#420 [12:36] <Kaito> not really
#421 [12:36] <sugoi> you can make a 3x3, or 2xINF
#422 [12:36] <Kaito> o.o
#423 [12:36] <sugoi> but you can't make 3x(>3)
#424 [12:37] <sugoi> i can look for a youtube about it, but essentially, on the back you checkboard it
#425 [12:37] <sugoi> whether you are reading strait out
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#427 [12:37] <sugoi> or, if you are reading 'above' or 'below' (or 'to the side' as is necessary with 3x3)
#428 [12:37] <sugoi> does that make sense?
#429 [12:39] <Kaito> yeah
#430 [12:39] <Kaito> i found a video on a 3x3 control panel
#431 [12:40] <sugoi> it is likely the same one i saw -- he doesn't address the limitations fully
#432 [12:40] <sugoi> but i foudn the 2xN can be extending to any length
#433 [12:40] <sugoi> found*
#434 [12:40] <Eddie> ax^2 + bx + c = 0
#435 [12:40] <sugoi> so i preferred the 2x4 to a 3x3
#436 [12:40] <sugoi> bc 8bits is well..just more normal to my head
#437 [12:40] <sugoi> :)
#438 [12:41] <Kaito> fair enough :P
#439 [12:41] <sugoi> Kaito: the downside tho, is that my circuitry was hideous with the compact input
#440 [12:42] <Kaito> xD
#441 [12:42] <sugoi> when i had nice and spaced inputs, the 'board' was beautiful
#442 [12:42] <Kaito> what REALLY needs to be implemented is blue stone, so you can lay parallel lines without repeaters
#443 [12:42] <sugoi> when compact inputs, you spend considerable time just getting those stupid lines separaated enough to put into the xnors
#444 [12:42] <Kaito> i honestly think that would be a super huge improvement
#445 [12:42] <sugoi> fair
#446 [12:43] <sugoi> i also would like to see modular design support (mod clearly)
#447 [12:43] <Kaito> I try not to use mods :P
#448 [12:43] <sugoi> where i could define a function, assign the function perhaps a name with a sign
#449 [12:43] <Kaito> I dont know why
#450 [12:43] <Kaito> I just never do
#451 [12:43] <Kaito> defining a function would be nice
#452 [12:43] <sugoi> then i could invoke that method with a sign (or block type..) somewhere else
#453 [12:43] <Kaito> THIS BLOCK IS AN AND GATE :P
#454 [12:43] <sugoi> right
#455 [12:43] <sugoi> and then take that idea further
#456 [12:44] <sugoi> more than just one gate
#457 [12:44] <sugoi> but then...a system
#458 [12:44] <sugoi> etc etc
#459 [12:44] <Kaito> right
#460 [12:44] <sugoi> i don't use mods much
#461 [12:44] <sugoi> but there are some that make sense to me
#462 [12:45] <sugoi> for example -- say you've not built your perfect 4bit combo lock
#463 [12:45] <sugoi> say you want to USE it
#464 [12:45] <sugoi> to perhaps, protect a private room, or chest of diamonds
#465 [12:45] <Kaito> yes
#466 [12:45] <sugoi> have you ever considered how hard it would be to actually protect it?
#467 [12:45] <sugoi> like...a huge encasing of obsidian?!
#468 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#469 [12:45] <Kaito> and pistons cant move obsidain D:
#470 [12:45] * Grim_Reaper hugs sugoi and GreyVulpine
#470 [12:46] <sugoi> WOOT, i think that's my first grim-hug
#471 [12:46] <Kaito> If pistons could move obsidian, you could remotely turn off nether gates
#472 [12:46] <GreyVulpine> "This block is an ARM9 processor"?
#473 [12:46] <Grim_Reaper> Naa Im sure I've hugged you before sugoi
#474 [12:46] <Kaito> WHICH WOULD BE A NICE FEATURE *hint hint wink wink*
#475 [12:46] <sugoi> Kaito: but for example, with WorldGaurd - you could just 'protect' the blocks, don't let anyone break your circuits
#476 [12:46] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: sure :)
#477 [12:46] <Kaito> Right
#478 [12:46] * GreyVulpine snrks
#478 [12:47] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: clearly, functions with multiple inputs/outputs would need to have faces/blocks for each param
#479 [12:47] <sugoi> thus signs would make more sense than just saying "this block"
#480 [12:47] <Kaito> yes
#481 [12:50] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: nope, the only person ever to have hugged me here was AuBot
#482 [12:50] * sugoi hugs AuBot
#482 [12:50] <sugoi> :D
#483 [12:50] <Grim_Reaper> Well now Im the next one ^^
#484 [12:54] <sugoi> Kaito: what happens if you push blocks into the nether gate portal blocks?
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#486 [12:54] <Kaito> you cant do that
#487 [12:55] <sugoi> they act like obsidian?
#488 [12:55] <sugoi> and not like a block of water would?
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#490 [12:55] <Kaito> correct
#491 [12:55] <sugoi> psh, lame
#492 [12:55] <sugoi> that would be a simple change imo
#493 [12:56] <sugoi> keep obsidian unmovable
#494 [13:00] <Kaito> And now i've switched focus to another issue for my castle :P
#495 [13:00] <Kaito> I have button that is ressed by 1 block in the wall
#496 [13:00] <Kaito> i want to cover it up, and when a the correct combination is hit, the button is revealed
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#498 [13:09] <bkralik> Hi! Is there any way how to buy 4 gift codes together? I think i have some payments for transaction on my card and i dont want to pay more to some credit-card company..
#499 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> You can buy them one by one on your account (max 4 codes if I remember)
#500 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> 5
#501 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> Oh 5 :o
#502 [13:10] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: i think his question is "buy 4 at a time"
#503 [13:10] <sugoi> as opposed to "one by one"
#504 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> I know sugoi.
#505 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#506 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> Though I dont think you can
#507 [13:11] <sugoi> so, s/You can buy/I think you can only buy'
#508 [13:11] <sugoi> s/'/\//
#509 [13:11] <Kaito> @_@
#510 [13:12] <sugoi> Grim_Reaper: paypal still not an option?
#511 [13:12] <bkralik> sugoi: nope, only credit-cards and moneybookers
#512 [13:12] <Grim_Reaper> Last I heard it still isn't
#513 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> Paypal was taken off as a payment option for purchasing gift codes
#514 [13:13] <sugoi> bleh
#515 [13:14] <sugoi> bkralik: well, if it worked (paypal) i know paypal charges much less than credit services for transactins
#516 [13:14] <sugoi> like 4 or 5 cents per tx
#517 [13:14] <sugoi> depends on the contract
#518 [13:15] <sugoi> an obscure factoid i know from having written a transaction service layer for a company some time ago
#519 [13:15] <bkralik> sugoi: but its not working now...
#520 [13:16] <sugoi> paypal? yeah, i get that
#521 [13:16] <sugoi> regardless, grim says you probably can only buy one at a time
#522 [13:19] <bkralik> hmm, so thank for help, i will start buying...
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#524 [13:25] <mib_s6a4m2> hi i need help
#525 [13:26] <sugoi> mib_s6a4m2: hi -- just ask the question right out the gate :)
#526 [13:26] <mib_s6a4m2> My minecraft i purchased it and it still says to purchase it again i got the registered receipt code
#527 [13:27] <mib_s6a4m2> Please help :(
#528 [13:28] <mib_s6a4m2> can you help me i got the code that it said to save after i purchased minecraft
#529 [13:28] <Wug> whats your account nane
#530 [13:28] <Wug> name*
#531 [13:28] <mib_s6a4m2> and i waited more than an hour
#532 [13:28] <mib_s6a4m2> axDEATHTAKERax
#533 [13:28] <mib_s6a4m2> is it safe to pase the code hear
#534 [13:29] <Wug> no
#535 [13:29] <mib_s6a4m2> ok
#536 [13:29] <Wug> !paid axDEATHTAKERax
#537 [13:29] <mib_s6a4m2> wat?
#538 [13:29] <mib_s6a4m2> I did
#539 [13:29] <Wug> can we speak via query
#540 [13:29] <Wug> I'll send you a message
#541 [13:29] <mib_s6a4m2> ok
#542 [13:29] <Wug> it will appear in a tab at the top of the page with my name on it
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#551 [13:57] <GoEz> hey guys ever since the update i keep getting cant connect to minecraft.net on my client and the web browser just stays black, any ideas?
#552 [13:58] <bkralik> I am here, again, if i am trying to buy second gift code I am getting ou have reached the maximum number of transactions via credit/debit card allowed per 6 hours to this merchant. You can either choose an alternative payment method or try again later.
#553 [13:58] <bkralik> Is there any way to pass it over?
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#555 [14:07] <Calinou> GoEz, what is your operating system/java version?
#556 [14:07] <Calinou> using java 7?
#557 [14:07] <Calinou> bkralik, probably not
#558 [14:08] <clarjon1> bkralik: other than waiting 6 hours? :P
#559 [14:08] <GoEz> win7 64x, was using firefox so java 32, and then tried using waterfox so java 64 as well
#560 [14:11] <Calinou> GoEz, use java 64 bit on a 64 bit OS. always.
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#562 [14:11] <Calinou> waterfox...?
#563 [14:11] <GoEz> firefox doesnt have a 64bit browser
#564 [14:11] <Calinou> GoEz, try using "force update" in launcheR?
#565 [14:12] <GoEz> waterfox is a 64bit alternative
#566 [14:12] <Calinou> also, I know. :P
#567 [14:12] <Calinou> launcher*
#568 [14:12] <Calinou> never played in website anyway
#569 [14:12] <GoEz> force update wont do anything since it wont let me log in
#570 [14:12] <GoEz> i tried uninstalling/reinstalling everything and it hasnt helped
#571 [14:13] <GoEz> is java 7 recommended?
#572 [14:13] <Calinou> nope.
#573 [14:14] <Calinou> it's experimental, the game might run faster. but you shouldn't use it except for testing
#574 [14:14] <Calinou> GoEz, that issue happened to me too.
#575 [14:14] <Calinou> redownload the launcher at minecraft.net
#576 [14:14] <Calinou> then run it, then use "force update"
#577 [14:14] <GoEz> so should i delete everything in %appdata regarding minecraft?
#578 [14:15] <Calinou> no
#579 [14:15] <Calinou> just use "force update" - not sure if it is even needed anyway
#580 [14:15] <Calinou> GoEz, also, try rebooting your computer?
#581 [14:15] <Calinou> IIRC I downloaded the launcher again > rebooted > started the launcher > logged in > worked fine
#582 [14:16] <GoEz> yeah i tried that route this morning :(
#583 [14:16] <GoEz> did fresh installs yesterday and today
#584 [14:16] <GoEz> i hit force update, the box greys out, hit login, and i get the cant connect to minecraft.net message
#585 [14:17] <Calinou> GoEz, try running minecraft in command line
#586 [14:17] <Calinou> place Minecraft.exe on the desktop
#587 [14:17] <Calinou> do shift+right click on the dekstop
#588 [14:17] <Calinou> click "open a command line here" or whatever it is
#589 [14:17] <Calinou> type in: "minecraft.exe" without quotes
#590 [14:17] <Calinou> derp - don't do that
#591 [14:17] <Calinou> it doesn't actually log anything, silly minecraft
#592 [14:18] <Calinou> GoEz, try using the .jar launcher
#593 [14:18] <Calinou> also, check your firewall
#594 [14:19] <Calinou> GoEz, https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar - then place it on desktop, then create a .bat file containing this:
#595 [14:20] <Calinou> http://pastebin.com/92FqWh7H
#596 [14:28] <GoEz> hey it worked
#597 [14:29] <GoEz> i think i love you
#598 [14:29] <Calinou> GoEz, how
#599 [14:29] <Calinou> lol
#600 [14:29] <GoEz> downloaded the jar and made a bat
#601 [14:29] <Calinou> now you'll have to execute that .bat file to start minecraft
#602 [14:30] <Calinou> feel free to create a folder named "Minecraft" then put both the file and the .jar inside (you can hide the .jar file too)
#603 [14:30] <Calinou> that's what I do on linux 8) (except it's an .sh file)
#604 [14:30] <GoEz> can i put it back in the appdata folder and make a shortcut to the bat file?
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#608 [14:46] <Wolvey> How do you find the server adress (ip) for your server?
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#610 [14:58] <Calinou> Wolvey, http://youripis.org
#611 [14:58] <Calinou> it'll tell you your external IP. :)
#612 [15:00] <Wolvey> thanks!:D
#613 [15:01] <Wolvey> i tried direct connecting...it did not work
#614 [15:03] <Calinou> Wolvey, to connect to your own server, you will have to use "localhost" or "127.0.0.1"
#615 [15:03] <Calinou> both do the same. ;)
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#617 [15:03] <Calinou> if you use a custom port, use "localhost:22222" (if your custom port is 22222, replace it with the port you're using). other clients will have to do that too, but with your external IP.
#618 [15:03] <Calinou> never o
#619 [15:04] <Calinou> oops, did enter by mistake. never touch that "server-ip" line in server.properties
#620 [15:04] <Wolvey> erm there is no number for server.properties
#621 [15:05] <Christopher> Hey guys, I had a domain name registered a while back, and I was wondering: how doable would be to make it so that typing in a subdomain would provide access to a Minecraft server?
#622 [15:05] <Calinou> Wolvey, keep that line empty anyway
#623 [15:05] <Calinou> Christopher, not sure... try it? :P
#624 [15:05] <Wolvey> hmmm...okay...then how do i get friends to connect to it?
#625 [15:05] <Calinou> I don't even use a domain, I have a free domain to my private server
#626 [15:06] <Calinou> Wolvey, tell them your external IP, also you will have to forward ports (which is probably the hardest step)
#627 [15:06] <Christopher> Calinou, I've BEEN trying it, hence why I'm here for help :P
#628 [15:06] <Calinou> check out http://portforward.com - you need to forward the port 25565 in TCP - it's minecraft's default
#629 [15:07] <Calinou> Christopher, ask your domain provider?
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#631 [15:07] <Christopher> I haven't received any answer after asking their support.
#632 [15:08] <Wolvey> okay
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#634 [15:08] <Calinou> also, why would you need subdomains? ONE domain is enough, no?
#635 [15:09] <Christopher> I'm already using the domain for my website.
#636 [15:10] <Calinou> ahh, right
#637 [15:10] <Calinou> it can point to a minecraft server too, no?
#638 [15:10] <Calinou> already seen servers do this
#639 [15:10] <Calinou> since the server uses a different port (25565 by default) and web uses 80
#640 [15:10] <Christopher> I've seen servers do this, but I don't know how it's done
#641 [15:10] <Calinou> just use the same domain! it should work
#642 [15:11] <Christopher> Alright, but how do I access the server through the domain name?
#643 [15:11] <Calinou> "example.com" on a web browser points to example.com:80 - "example.com" in minecraft points to example.com:25565
#644 [15:11] <Calinou> Christopher, just start the minecraft server so it has the same IP as the web site
#645 [15:11] <Christopher> Okay, and that's where I'm lost, I think.
#646 [15:12] <Christopher> How do I do *that* part?
#647 [15:16] <Christopher> How do I specify the IP the minecraft server has?
#648 [15:17] <Wolvey> chris, im reading a tut right now
#649 [15:17] <Wolvey> ill show it to you
#650 [15:17] <Wolvey> http://539944.xobor.com/t14f20-How-to-Setup-an-Hamachi-MineCraft-Server.html
#651 [15:18] <Wolvey> you gotta use a program called hamachi
#652 [15:18] <Wolvey> ive used it ever since counterstrik
#653 [15:18] <Wolvey> e
#654 [15:18] <Wolvey> its a great IP tool...you and the other people have to be networked together through that IP adress using hamachi then you connect to the IP using minecraft
#655 [15:19] <Christopher> I'm using the free version of Hamachi, though, which says it can only have 4 connections..
#656 [15:19] <Wolvey> exactly
#657 [15:19] <Wolvey> you gotta go buy if you want more friends;)
#658 [15:19] <Christopher> D:
#659 [15:19] <Christopher> But how do other servers do it?
#660 [15:21] <Wolvey> they buy
#661 [15:21] <Wolvey> or they port right through their IP
#662 [15:21] <Wolvey> but its alot more difficult
#663 [15:21] <Wolvey> and people can phish
#664 [15:21] <Wolvey> so you gotta have a dedicated box like runescape or WoW
#665 [15:21] <Christopher> I have a dedicated box.
#666 [15:21] <Wolvey> simple way is just using hamachi
#667 [15:22] <Christopher> What do you mean port right through their IP?
#668 [15:22] <Wolvey> gr
#669 [15:23] <Wolvey> using the external ip
#670 [15:23] <Wolvey> youripis.org
#671 [15:23] <Wolvey> you use that IP
#672 [15:23] <Wolvey> however
#673 [15:23] <Wolvey> you gotta make sure the port is unblocked
#674 [15:23] <Wolvey> its really ****y
#675 [15:24] <Wolvey> even that may not work
#676 [15:24] <Wolvey> if your router isnt set up properly
#677 [15:24] <Wolvey> i hate networking
#678 [15:24] <Wolvey> i just downloaded today...but i know all this crap from counterstrike and megamek
#679 [15:25] <Christopher> Yeah, this has been an ongoing project for a month and this crap still doesn't make sense to me :P
#680 [15:25] <Wolvey> okay well...i was just able to externally connect to my server using hamachi
#681 [15:26] <Christopher> I can do that, but the connection limit in Hamachi is a HUGE issue for me.
#682 [15:26] <Christopher> I can do that, but the connection limit in Hamachi is a HUGE issue for me.
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#687 [15:56] <twiz> can someone tell me were to go for mod help other than riucraft?
#688 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the mod, #risucraft is the general modding help channel
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#690 [16:03] <CODsniperkid> Does anyone know how to change your minecraft password after you already migrated your Minecraft account to a Mojang Account?
#691 [16:04] <GreyVulpine> https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
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#693 [16:06] <CODsniperkid> I tried that and it says that the key is invalid..
#694 [16:07] <CODsniperkid> And I changed my Mojang account password, but I can still log into minecraft without using my new password.
#695 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Right, because when migrating over to the Mojang account, the old minecraft.net account is still there (for some inane reason)
#696 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to contact Mojang to get it straightened out.
#697 [16:09] <CODsniperkid> Ok. I can't find anywhere to email them or something. Could you supply their email?
#698 [16:09] <CODsniperkid> Is it support@mojang.com?
#699 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#701 [16:18] <CODsniperkid> Thanks Grey! I sent an email and, in their support section, they said that they will just make the old minecraft.net account's password randomized and then you can just use your Mojang acc.
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#708 [16:48] <Kazi> hello
#709 [16:48] <Kazi> i have a broblem
#710 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> With?
#711 [16:48] <Kazi> my premium account
#712 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> What sort of problem?
#713 [16:48] <Kazi> said ma to wait a Hour for activation
#714 [16:48] <Kazi> but i waited
#715 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> And you haven't gotten it yet?
#716 [16:48] <Kazi> and still not
#717 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> What is your username? How and when did you pay for it? Did you get any emails confirming purchase or payment?
#718 [16:48] <Kazi> and it gave to me a ORDER
#719 [16:49] <Kazi> Grey you are Admin or something ?
#720 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried calling your bank or financial institution, see if they have a record of a transaction going to Mojang AB for Minecraft?
#721 [16:49] <Kazi> that i didn;t
#722 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> That would probably be a good first step.
#723 [16:50] <Kazi> but it is posible to just be a problem and be late my premium ?
#724 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Mojang gives its customers premium automatically when they receive confirmation of payment from the bank. It's an automatic process
#725 [16:50] <sugoi> Kazi: we don't officially represent mojang here -- don't give people things like your password or credit card number, keep that private
#726 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> If the payment is held up in the bank from some reason, there could be delays.
#727 [16:51] <sugoi> Kazi: but at the same time, we do try to help, and it is safe to share your username
#728 [16:51] <sugoi> my username is payonel, btw :)
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#730 [16:52] <Kazi> but at me it said to wait a Hour ... that make any diference ? :D
#731 [16:52] <Kazi> i should wait a hour .. ?
#732 [16:52] <Kazi> i have 20 min
#733 [16:52] <Kazi> or like something
#734 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Transactions have been known to take some time to complete. Usually it's immediate but can take some time if a bank is slow to process payments
#735 [16:53] <sugoi> mine said to wait an our too, but worked right away
#736 [16:53] <sugoi> agreed, it would be the bank that delays, not mojang
#737 [16:53] <Kazi> i should wait whit my account loged in ?
#738 [16:53] <sugoi> bc for example, ppl are buying it from another country
#739 [16:54] <sugoi> Kazi: you shuold call your bank, and make sure the purchased is not blocked
#740 [16:54] <sugoi> Kazi: let's confirm also that you used minecraft.net to buy the game
#741 [16:54] <sugoi> and not another site (as there is no other valid way)
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#743 [16:55] <Ace199102840> hay anyone around whos's willing to help me out with PEX?
#744 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Ask question, leave 11 seconds later. New record.
#745 [16:56] <sugoi> that _was_ odd
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#748 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> Ace199102840 - Try #permissionsex
#749 [16:57] <Ace199102840> #permissionsex
#750 [16:57] <sugoi> was that <11s ?
#751 [16:58] <sugoi> Ace199102840: currently you are in #minecrafthelp <- name of this channel
#752 [16:58] <sugoi> Ace199102840: you can visit other channels, the best one for questions with PEX is #permissionsex
#753 [16:59] <Ace199102840> already tried all that
#754 [16:59] <sugoi> people may not answer your question right away
#755 [17:00] <sugoi> with IRC, you should ask a question, and then just wait patiently for someone to answer
#756 [17:00] <sugoi> for example, just leave the chat window open
#757 [17:00] <sugoi> i was got the answer i was looking for ~12 hours after i asked
#758 [17:00] <sugoi> active channels will respond much more quickly of course :)
#759 [17:00] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#760 [17:00] <sugoi> [that e.g. wasn't anything to do with minecraft, btw]
#761 [17:00] <sugoi> i once* got the answer * ^
#762 [17:01] <sugoi> Ace199102840: you can also try on #bukkit, people there use pex a lot too, but #permissionsex would be the most appropriate place to ask
#763 [17:02] <Ace199102840> http://mibpaste.com/AUIpQ2
#764 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> That paste link contains no text.
#765 [17:03] <Ace199102840> i know im trying to figureout how to use it
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#767 [17:03] <Ace199102840> sorry
#768 [17:03] <Kazi> i just found something :| ...
#769 [17:03] <Ace199102840> http://mibpaste.com/6B9Y6g
#770 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> And what is that Kazi?
#771 [17:04] <Ace199102840> ok got it to work
#772 [17:04] <Ace199102840> so modify worl wont work
#773 [17:04] <Ace199102840> in my permissions
#774 [17:04] <Ace199102840> i cant build or do anything
#775 [17:04] <Kazi> my friend ....mada himself a Premium Account Free :| ... how it is that posible ... He's a cheater :|
#776 [17:04] <Ace199102840> i put myself in builders group so tahst what im havaing touble with
#777 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Kazi - He most likely used a cracked version of Minecraft, which is illegal.
#778 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> Neither Mojang, nor we, will support any cracked versions of minecraft here
#779 [17:05] <Kazi> no he had a premium account :| ...
#780 [17:05] <Kazi> not cracked
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#782 [17:05] <Kazi> i will try find his ID and Report
#783 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> There is no way of getting a premium account for free. It is 20 euros for a premium account
#784 [17:06] <Ace199102840> okay u guys really arnt helping :\
#785 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Ace199102840 - We told you where you can get help for PEX, #permissionsex and #bukkit
#786 [17:06] <Ace199102840> okay but it sent me to links ive been to dude
#787 [17:06] <Ace199102840> they dont help
#788 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> I have not used PEX at all. I don't have a clue what is wrong with your permissions list
#789 [17:07] <Ace199102840> erggg ok
#790 [17:07] <Kazi> grey ... he showed me ....he bought in my eyes whit Team view... But put Black squers on Id... He wrote something on Link ... Said to wait a hour ... log out than log in again and his account was Premium :|
#791 [17:07] <Ace199102840> #permissionsex
#792 [17:07] <Kazi> in my Front *
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#794 [17:08] <Kazi> sry for bad English
#795 [17:08] <Kazi> sry for bad English
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#797 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Kaito - He was most likely joking with you. There is no way to 'purchase' a premium account without money
#798 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> er, bleh, Kazi*
#799 [17:09] <Kazi> maybe ...but if it is ...i will beat the crap out of him
#800 [17:10] <zkxs> How do I go about updating a minecraft save in the alpha format to anvil? It seems that the old→mcregion converter has been replaced with a mcregion→anvil converter.
#801 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Happen to have a pre 1.2.2 version of minecraft?
#802 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Or possibly, MCedit can still do it.
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#807 [17:22] <zkxs> I'm not sure. I'll have to check my backups...
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#809 [17:22] <adde> hello
#810 [17:22] <zkxs> I might have an old version off of windows, but I can probably just paste my natives folder in
#811 [17:23] <adde> do you people know where i can get help with windows 8 consimer priview?
#812 [17:23] <zkxs> Are you actually installing it to a hard disk, or doing it in a VM?
#813 [17:24] <adde> what?
#814 [17:25] <zkxs> VM = virtual machine
#815 [17:25] <adde> oh
#816 [17:25] <zkxs> I personally wouldn't install it to a real hard disk
#817 [17:26] <adde> why not? thats the safest way i think
#818 [17:26] <zkxs> Windows has this annoying tendency to overwrite bootloaders
#819 [17:27] <zkxs> If your computer has another operating system on it, chances are win8 will break it
#820 [17:27] <adde> witch system are you on?
#821 [17:27] <zkxs> I'm on linux, but I installed it in a VM
#822 [17:27] <adde> ok, i see
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#824 [17:29] <adde> but can't you split the disk so you have a (D:) (F:) etc and place it in one of those?
#825 [17:29] <zkxs> You can, and windows will tell you it will only install to the disk you tell it, but it will stick a bootloader on you primary partition nevertheless.
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#827 [17:30] <adde> place it in a external hard drive ?
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#829 [17:31] <zkxs> If you physically unplug your main hard disk, that would work. You could also set the external drive as the primary disk.
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#831 [17:36] <adde> well, download it to a external hard drive if your computer wont take it then
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#833 [17:37] <xales> ._.
#834 [17:38] <Christopher> Hey guys, I'm trying to host a minecraft server through my website, but I'm not quite sure what needs to be done. Can someone give me a runthrough of what I'll need to set up?
#835 [17:38] <xales> Christopher: What do you mean by "through my website"?
#836 [17:38] <adde> add a world, some plugins and sutch
#837 [17:38] <adde> set up if you wanna have mob spawn and if you want it to be a white list server
#838 [17:39] <xales> adde: I do not believe that is what they are inquiring about.
#839 [17:39] <Christopher> When someone types in the url of my website as a direct connection to a minecraft server, I want that to open the server.
#840 [17:39] <Christopher> (As opposed to an IP)
#841 [17:39] <adde> i dont think i understand what you mean
#842 [17:40] <xales> Christopher: Simply set up the DNS records for your domain so that whatever you wish people to use to connect resolves to the IP of the server.
#843 [17:40] <Eddie> Christopher Walken.
#844 [17:40] * Eddie bows
#844 [17:41] <Christopher> Okay, how do I do that?
#845 [17:42] <xales> Christopher: I would assume that the registrar you used is hosting the DNS for your domain, and has provided some sort of control panel with which to manage it.
#846 [17:42] <Christopher> Okay, lemme poke around on the control panel.
#847 [17:42] <sugoi> Eddie: more cow bell!
#848 [17:42] <Eddie> D:
#849 [17:42] <Eddie> Advil doesn't work.
#850 [17:44] <Christopher> Hokay, I have a link labeled "DNS Manager." Is that what I'm looking for?
#851 [17:44] <xales> Christopher: That sounds like it, yes.
#852 [17:45] <xales> Christopher: My suggestion is: add an entry of "smp" or "smp.yourdomain.com" (whatever format it wants), type A, and set to the IP of the Minecraft server
#853 [17:45] <Christopher> That was what I was just going to ask about :P
#854 [17:45] <Christopher> Do I want to mess with TTL at all?
#855 [17:46] <xales> Nope
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#859 [17:46] <xales> Once you have added the record, it will take up to 24 hours or so to fully propogate.
#860 [17:47] <xales> You'll probably notice it sooner, but not everyone may.
#861 [17:47] <Christopher> 24 hours? O.o
#862 [17:49] <Christopher> Okay, my direct connect is giving me nothing.
#863 [17:49] <Christopher> The run.bat file says "lost connection"
#864 [17:50] <Christopher> (Following a long string that looks like an IP but seems a bit too long)
#865 [17:50] <Christopher> However, my connection to it through Hamachi says the server's fine?
#866 [17:51] * clarjon1 twitch
#866 [17:51] <clarjon1> ugh, hamachi
#867 [17:52] <adde> i think you can change so you dont need hamachi but you dont rent eather
#868 [17:52] <clarjon1> It's called port forwarding.
#869 [17:52] <adde> yeah
#870 [17:52] <adde> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0knGGDQZQ0o
#871 [17:53] <Christopher> Is this the one that uses DynDNS?
#872 [17:54] <adde> not sure
#873 [17:55] <adde> look at the video, hope that explains
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#877 [18:22] <Christopher> ..having followed those steps, now not even Hamachi will load it. :S
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#879 [18:58] <sugoi> Christopher: don't use hamachi at all
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#886 [19:38] <isam> is there any way to run the minecraft.app launcher from the commandline to see where it's failing (and crashing). I'm losing my mind trying to resolve this error (it works fine from the commandline using the .jar version) but hangs on the logo screen using the non-commandline-launcher
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#888 [19:40] <garyc> Hello, guys! I have a world save that is pre-mcregion, specifically from Beta 1.2.5 last year. How can I convert it to MCRegion format?
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#890 [19:41] <garyc> I am assuming that the current version of Minecraft can convert MCRegion to the current Anvil. :)
#891 [19:42] <isam> garyc: I believe it can, yes
#892 [19:42] <garyc> :)
#893 [19:43] <isam> garyc: have you tried converting the save in the latest version?
#894 [19:44] <garyc> It doesn't find the save at all in the latest version, it is pre-region
#895 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> Hmm.
#896 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> it could be that the current version won't get a pre-.mcr batch of .chunkfiles
#897 [19:46] <garyc> Right. Hence my original question, how can I convert the save to the MCRegion format?
#898 [19:46] <isam> garyc: you could try downgrading to a pre-anvil version and converting it up using that (via mcnostalgia)
#899 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> you may have to go incrementally
#900 [19:46] <garyc> mcnostalgia is a thing?
#901 [19:46] <isam> yes
#902 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> get yourself a post-.mcr pre-anvil server .jar, run that to convert .chunk to .mcr, and then run the latest server to convert again
#903 [19:47] <isam> it downgrades the client bin files using a patch (so as not to distribute code)
#904 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> unfortunately, we cannot distrubute old versions of the server or client legally.
#905 [19:48] <garyc> I couldn't find any working links on the minecraftforums site with regards to converting pre-mcr to region so this was my last resort :)
#906 [19:49] <isam> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-211-now-works-with-125/
#907 [19:49] <isam> that might be a good starting point
#908 [19:49] <isam> i'd suggest making a backup of your save/minecraft folder though
#909 [19:50] <garyc> Yea
#910 [19:51] <garyc> Thanks for the mcnostalgia thing
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#912 [19:56] <isam> does anyone know what could cause this: http://pastebin.com/N0sNSmLS
#913 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> ??> isam mac/profile
#914 [19:58] <VoxelHead> isam: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#915 [19:58] <VoxelHead> isam: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#916 [20:00] <isam> VoxelHead: already two steps ahead, that error occurs on a seperate account. On this one, as I said earlier, it hangs on the logo screen. So at this point it does appear to be system wide. Oddly, it seems to launch fine using the .jar version of minecraft using the terminal
#917 [20:01] <isam> DopeGhoti: and I just realized i responded to an automated bot heh. but yea, this issue is driving me nuts
#918 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Interesting that firing up the .jar manually works without any problems.
#919 [20:06] <DopeGhoti> Do you happen to have any mods installed?
#920 [20:07] <isam> single player commands and rei minimap. though I've tried doing a clean install as well and that does not appear to fix the issue either
#921 [20:09] <isam> the issue manifested itself the other day as well, so I had re-downloaded the launcher .app, and it appeared to fix it until I attempted to install a void-fog-remover .class file. After that it began hanging right after the logo screen
#922 [20:09] <isam> I would have assumed the mod itself was incompatible, but, if that were the case, then a clean vanilla install should work fine as well.
#923 [20:10] <isam> what's strange is, on the seperate user account, the launcher gets past the logo screen but crashes after choosing a world to play
#924 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> and when you say a clean install, you mean that you removed or moved ~/Library/Application\ Support/mincecraft/bin, yes?
#925 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> and/or did a 'Force update' from the launcher?
#926 [20:11] <isam> correct, i renamed the entire "minecraft" folder to make sure there wasnt anything left over that could cause issues
#927 [20:11] * DopeGhoti nods
#927 [20:11] <isam> and to test on the seperate account I moved the entire minecraft folder there as well
#928 [20:11] <isam> well, a copy of it (the modded one, that is)
#929 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> well, when my boss leaves the room, I'll see if the OS X jave 1.6.31 update hosed my installation as well.
#930 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> which cat is your copy of OS X names after?
#931 [20:11] <isam> Lion
#932 [20:11] <isam> 10.7.2
#933 [20:12] <isam> just installed the java update thinking it might help things earlier as well, but no such luck
#934 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> that may be a variable I cannot control for; I have 10.6 here.
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#936 [20:12] <DopeGhoti> bear with me (:
#937 [20:12] <isam> not a problem, I appreciate the help either way
#938 [20:13] <isam> I was somewhat hoping I could launch the .app from the terminal in some sort of verbose mode, but it doesnt appear open or open -a does anything of the sort :/
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#940 [20:19] <isam> DopeGhoti: just checked again. downloaded a fresh vanilla install on the seperate account and it seems to work fine. the modded folder however crashes. so perhaps it is something local to this user account after all
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#943 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> isam: I would try one more time doing a completely clean install in your usual account
#944 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> (sans mods)
#945 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> if the problem goes away and recurs after modding, it's a mod problem
#946 [20:23] <isam> DopeGhoti: ok, it's definitely related to this account. it seems the modded version works fine now that I applied a read/write permission to everything enclosed
#947 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> if the problem still occurs sans mod, see whether you have any java programs (or other programs for that matteR) running which may interfere
#948 [20:24] <isam> I wonder if somehow maybe the same thing happened on here
#949 [20:26] <isam> DopeGhoti: and aparently not. changed permissions. nada. redownloaded another copy. nada
#950 [20:26] <isam> DopeGhoti: something definitely related to this account managed to get screwy :/
#951 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> well, at least you have a> a workaround, and 2> narrowed down where the problem lies.
#952 [20:28] <isam> true
#953 [20:28] <isam> DopeGhoti: do you happen to know where java keeps its environment variables stored? on a per-user basis at least?
#954 [20:28] <DopeGhoti> As for what might be interfering, I'd start with looking at what you have running in `top` or the Activity Monitor, and go from there
#955 [20:29] <isam> DopeGhoti: .profile and .bash_profile dont seem to exist
#956 [20:29] <DopeGhoti> If it caches them on-disk, I'd have to suspect it's buried in ~library somewhere
#957 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> .profile and .bash_profile generally won't exist unless you create them (:
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#959 [20:30] <DopeGhoti> sorry, not ~library; ~/Library
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#961 [20:31] <DopeGhoti> isam: look in ~/Library/Caches/Java perhaps?
#962 [20:31] <isam> DopeGhoti: yea, was thinking that
#963 [20:32] <isam> DopeGhoti: I'm gonna dump it in the trash and reboot fast, i'll brb
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#965 [20:34] <Andreas> does anyone know if mojang have a phone number?
#966 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> Yes they do.
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#968 [20:36] <Andreas> whats the number?
#969 [20:36] <isam> no such luck :(
#970 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> isam: also check /Library/Java and /Library/Logs/Java. WARNING: deleting these might be a Very Bad Idea, but it might be worth nosing aorund at least.
#971 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> Andreas - Could I ask why you want their number?
#972 [20:38] <Andreas> em, it's cinda weard to say
#973 [20:38] <Andreas> to everyone here
#974 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> and hard to spell, apparently.
#975 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> If you want their number, it's here: http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=11147336073036689385&q=Mojang+AB,+%C3%85s%C3%B6gatan,+Stockholm,+Sweden&hl=en&ved=0CBIQ-gswAA&sa=X&ei=54CDT-XEN6GbwQGN-ZGjDg
#976 [20:38] <isam> DopeGhoti: except those would be affecting things system-wide would they not?
#977 [20:38] <DopeGhoti> isam: they would, but the Logs would, I imagine, be of use, possibly.
#978 [20:39] <Andreas> thanks, i've been looking for it since christmas
#979 [20:39] <isam> DopeGhoti: dont see any log specific to java :/
#980 [20:39] <Dan> isam, what os are you using?
#981 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> Andreas - Is this a Minecraft issue that you want to contact them for? If so, there's a better way than just calling them
#982 [20:39] <DopeGhoti> you don't have /Library/Logs/Java ?
#983 [20:40] <Andreas> nope
#984 [20:40] <isam> Dan: 10.7.2, osx lion
#985 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Fair enough.
#986 [20:40] <Dan> oh nvm
#987 [20:40] <isam> DopeGhoti: correct, does not appear there is
#988 [20:40] <DopeGhoti> Hm. That may be one point at which SnowLeopard and Lion are at variance
#989 [20:40] <Andreas> if i have a minecraft issue i usualy just google it or figure it out myself
#990 [20:40] <isam> DopeGhoti: must be :(
#991 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> run this: `find /Library -type d -name \*Java\* 2> /dev/null`
#992 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Andreas - If there's some other business problem or issue, perhaps I can point you in a better place?
#993 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> that'll show you any directories in the system Library with 'Java' in their names
#994 [20:41] <Andreas> ok, it isent a problem what so ever.
#995 [20:41] * GreyVulpine nods.
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#996 [20:42] <isam> DopeGhoti: odd, connection to here dropped :D
#997 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> I noticed. (:
#998 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> did you get my last?
#999 [20:42] <Andreas> well, its about if i can be there for a week or so, im in school and ganna be a game/softwhere developer
#1000 [20:42] <DopeGhoti> Andreas: are you in Sweeden?
#1001 [20:42] <Andreas> es
#1002 [20:42] <Andreas> yes*
#1003 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> well, that certainly helps (:
#1004 [20:43] <isam> DopeGhoti: the one about finding the directories with Java in the name? yea
#1005 [20:43] <Andreas> i'm from Avesta in Sweden
#1006 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> isam: if the directory with Java's logs moved (but still have Java in its name), that'll find it.
#1007 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> s/have/has/
#1008 [20:44] <Eddie> s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/
#1009 [20:44] <isam> DopeGhoti: only seems to find the one directory, Library/Java
#1010 [20:44] <Andreas> so i dont know why im not in bed yet, its 2.43 now
#1011 [20:44] <isam> and /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines which is nested inside
#1012 [20:46] <isam> DopeGhoti: hmm, interesting: did 'show package contents' on the launcher itself and then did java -jar on the Launcher.jar file in there, and it appears to launch the game fine
#1013 [20:46] <isam> however, there's an error
#1014 [20:47] <isam> http://pastebin.com/LhRgmeL2
#1015 [20:49] <Andreas> when did you recived the error messege?
#1016 [20:50] <isam> just about right after I hit enter to launch it
#1017 [20:50] <isam> but it doesnt appear to cancel the launch and continues to work OK afterword
#1018 [20:51] <isam> java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "javaw": error=2, No such file or directory makes me think it is indeed a path issue of some sort
#1019 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> isam: well, I don't jave a `javaw` in /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/Current/Commands, but that does seem to be where all the Java binaries live.
#1020 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> (your pathing may vary)
#1021 [20:55] <isam> DopeGhoti: it just makes me wonder why the launcher in the .app and the straight .jar work but not the actual .app itself :/
#1022 [20:56] <isam> DopeGhoti: and it appears to be the same path though the actual binaries appear to be symlinked there and are actually in /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/Commands/
#1023 [20:57] <DopeGhoti> isam: I have the same symlinking.
#1024 [20:57] <isam> DopeGhoti: and no, no javaw there either :/
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#1026 [21:01] <isam> DopeGhoti: just found some forum thread where someone had a similar error under ubuntu. it appears making the sun version of java the default was the fix they used that worked. though I'm not sure why/how the version of java I have installed could/would not be the default as there's only one version as far as I know
#1027 [21:11] <isam> DopeGhoti: narrowed it down a little further. I think. It appears if I set my default version of java to 32bits, the launcher works fine. when I change it back to 64bits as the default, the same issue occurs
#1028 [21:22] <isam> i'll brb
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#1032 [21:32] <rainweaver> hello, i need help with my server
#1033 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help?
#1034 [21:33] <rainweaver> Iv tried everything and my friend still cant access it
#1035 [21:34] <rainweaver> iv checked both ips iv checked to make sure everything is updated and running correctly. we've even attempted at changing the folders and allowing the portforwarding. its still not working
#1036 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> what exactly happens what you try?
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#1038 [21:36] <rainweaver> well i can play on the server. but she cant. she just gets a cant reach server
#1039 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> What IP are you giving her?
#1040 [21:37] <rainweaver> the longer one
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#1042 [21:37] <GreyVulpine> Which is?
#1043 [21:39] <rainweaver> its just the dynamic ip address. im not giving it out.
#1044 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Is it 71.49.72.218?
#1045 [21:39] <rainweaver> .
#1046 [21:39] <rainweaver> yeah
#1047 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Alright. How did you do the port forwarding?
#1048 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> What IP address did you port forward to, and what port did you use?
#1049 [21:40] <rainweaver> i'm not sure the question...><
#1050 [21:40] <GreyVulpine> When you said you "allowed the portforwarding", what exactly did you mean?
#1051 [21:41] <rainweaver> we have two computers with servers. I enabled my computer to forward minecraft.
#1052 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> And how did you do that?
#1053 [21:43] <rainweaver> i typed in 10.0.01 into the top of the addy and went into the router then fallowed the instructions on this site http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1054 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Happen to have Teamviewer?
#1055 [21:44] <rainweaver> no
#1056 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Would you like to get it? It would allow me to remote into your computer to check out your settings, and help fix. Otherwise, I can try walking you through confirming all the settings.
#1057 [21:46] <rainweaver> i think the walk threw would be better so i know what to do if this happens again.
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#1059 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Are you at the computer hosting the server right now?
#1060 [21:46] <rainweaver> yes
#1061 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> What operating system is it running?
#1062 [21:46] <rainweaver> yes
#1063 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Is it running Windows? MacOS? Some flavor of Linux? AmigaOS?
#1064 [21:47] <rainweaver> windows
#1065 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Alright. On your keyboard, hit your Windows+R keys to bring up the Run command. Type in:cmd and press enter
#1066 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> A black command prompt window should pop up, there type in: ipconfig
#1067 [21:47] <rainweaver> btw the server did work before hand...
#1068 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the ip address there.
#1069 [21:48] <Christopher> Hey, I've been trying to connect to my server, and for some reason it tells me that it can't send or receive anything in ipconfig. Any idea why this may be?
#1070 [21:48] <GreyVulpine> Christopher - ?
#1071 [21:48] <rainweaver> why do you need to know that number.
#1072 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> rainweaver - I'm trying to confirm that you port forwarded your router correctly to that ip address of the computer
#1073 [21:49] <GreyVulpine> Also that the router you're connecting to, is indeed the ip address of the default gateway listed in ipconfig
#1074 [21:50] <rainweaver> but the thing is, it worked perfectly fine before. So i know when i set it up the first time i did it right.
#1075 [21:51] <rainweaver> (my partner wants to know if a virus can be the cause of it?)
#1076 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Then, it would also confirm that the ip address did not change. Many routers do DHCP addressing, which can change the ip address given out to the computer.
#1077 [21:52] <rainweaver> so what you mean is, the ip that it says isnt really the ip that it is?
#1078 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> More than likely, some setting changed between then and now, which screwed up the port forwarding.
#1079 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> What i'm saying is, your router may have given your computer an ip address of 10.0.0.5, but since you rebooted your machine, it may have given you an ip address of 10.0.0.6, screwing up any previous port forwarding setting
#1080 [21:53] <rainweaver> so i have to delete and reforward?
#1081 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> I do not know, if you can tell me the ip address given out in ipconfig, as well as the ip address you port forwarded in your router, I can confirm that.
#1082 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, I'm shooting blind here.
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#1085 [22:03] <rainweaver> ok, i think i might have found the problem...
#1086 [22:04] <rainweaver> yup. its working now. Thank you so much for the time. You pointed me in the right place to look for my mistake
#1087 [22:04] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1087 [22:04] <rainweaver> lol talk to you another time. Bye! ^^
#1088 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Take care.
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#1095 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> clarjon1 - .mcr are the old region files, and can be removed. Anvil is .mca
#1096 [23:18] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: thanks! Tho.. i didn't ask that here lol.
#1097 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> :P
#1098 [23:19] <clarjon1> :)
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