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#21 [02:11] <EnkerMan> Hey guys
#22 [02:11] <EnkerMan> I need some help forwarding ports.
#23 [02:12] <EnkerMan> Other people can't connect to my server, but I can (through localhost). I think it has to do with the "Server IP" I enter when forwarding the port. Where do I find this?
#24 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> 99% of the time, a home user will leave the server-ip blank in server.properties
#25 [02:13] <Wug> leave the server-ip line of the config blank
#26 [02:13] <Wug> ninja
#27 [02:14] <EnkerMan> No, not that
#28 [02:14] <EnkerMan> When I forward ports, not in server.properties
#29 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Your public ip can be found using a site like ipchicken.com
#30 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Your router's ip can vary. What operating system are you running?
#31 [02:14] <EnkerMan> Going to forward the port, it tells me to enter a server IP. I enter my public IP and it says that 'it must be in the same subdomain as my local IP" or something to that effect.
#32 [02:14] <EnkerMan> I've set up a static IP and am running Win 7.
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#34 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd and press enter
#35 [02:15] <EnkerMan> Ipconfig /all?
#36 [02:15] <fenster> enker i just solved the same problem used canyouseeme.org or sumtin to see if port was open and service running
#37 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> at the black command prompt, type in: ipconfig
#38 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Tell us the default gateway
#39 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> And the ipv4 address
#40 [02:15] <EnkerMan> Default Gateway: 10.0.0.1
#41 [02:15] <EnkerMan> IPV4: 10.0.0.24
#42 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> That'll be the router ip address you'll connect to via your browser, and the ip address you'll use to forward port 25565/TCP to, repspectively
#43 [02:16] <EnkerMan> Yes sir
#44 [02:16] <EnkerMan> I've already forwarded the port, set up a static IP and everything through a mixture of Windows and Linksys prompts
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#46 [02:16] <EnkerMan> If it helps I have a moderate understanding of computers, though networking is quite obviously where I lag behind
#47 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Is the MC server running?
#48 [02:17] <EnkerMan> Moderate not being "I'm good with like facebook and stuff," more like 2 years of vocational IT training
#49 [02:17] <EnkerMan> Not at the moment, no
#50 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> Could you please run it?
#51 [02:17] <EnkerMan> CanYouSeeMe said it timed out
#52 [02:17] <EnkerMan> Yes sir.
#53 [02:17] <EnkerMan> It's up.
#54 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> ;check EnkerMan
#55 [02:17] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-66-31-212-126.hsd1.ma.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#56 [02:17] <EnkerMan> Whoa. Fancy.
#57 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Alright. If you're sure you've port forwarded 25565/TCP to 10.0.0.24 correctly in your router, the next thing to check would be a firewall or security program on your computer
#58 [02:18] <EnkerMan> Ohh, that could be it.
#59 [02:18] <EnkerMan> I've set up a server before successfully but it was on a different router and I've moved since then
#60 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Often times, windows firewall (firewall.cpl in search) can block it
#61 [02:19] <EnkerMan> Let me root through my firewalls, hold on a second
#62 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Or a third party security software
#63 [02:19] <EnkerMan> What exactly am I looking for? The client or the port?
#64 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Easiest would be to let port 25565/TCP through
#65 [02:19] <EnkerMan> Right
#66 [02:19] <fenster> restart router with initial config/ as i said before i had same problem
#67 [02:19] <EnkerMan> Inbound or outbound?
#68 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Inbound
#69 [02:20] <fenster> router was blocking
#70 [02:20] <EnkerMan> Right, one second
#71 [02:20] <EnkerMan> Er, is posting my IP here a bad thing?
#72 [02:20] <EnkerMan> I wouldn't imagine so, just double-checking
#73 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> We already know it
#74 [02:21] <EnkerMan> Ahah, right
#75 [02:21] <EnkerMan> 66.31.212.126 , if someone would care to test it for me
#76 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> ;check EnkerMan
#77 [02:21] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-66-31-212-126.hsd1.ma.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#78 [02:21] <EnkerMan> ffff-
#79 [02:21] <EnkerMan> Alright, that's not it
#80 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Does the server log say it's running on *:25565?
#81 [02:22] <fenster> change defualt connection port?
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#83 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Shouldn't need to change it, few other applications run off the port.
#84 [02:22] <EnkerMan> Indeed it does, Grey
#85 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Have you double checked the port forwarding rule goes from 25565-25565 TCP to the ip address of the server, and that it's enabled?
#86 [02:23] <fenster> grey had same problem, know how to open a port but had a new router, had to reset router and add it to the ipconfig table
#87 [02:23] <EnkerMan> Right, check again? I've just set inbound and outbound exceptions for the port and the program.
#88 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> ;check EnkerMank
#89 [02:23] <WugBot> Unable to determine the hostname of enkermank. Nobody with that nickname seems to be online.
#90 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> ;check EnkerMan
#91 [02:23] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-66-31-212-126.hsd1.ma.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#92 [02:23] <EnkerMan> Damn it.
#93 [02:23] <EnkerMan> hmm
#94 [02:23] <EnkerMan> Let me check server.properties
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#96 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Wait a second. You have a linksys router, yes?
#97 [02:24] <EnkerMan> Yes sir.
#98 [02:24] <EnkerMan> Oh
#99 [02:24] <EnkerMan> Oh, no, my mistake
#100 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Linksys routers usually give 192.168.1.x IPs..
#101 [02:24] <EnkerMan> It's Netgear
#102 [02:24] <EnkerMan> Linksys was the other one.
#103 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Oh, right then
#104 [02:25] <EnkerMan> It's 10.0.0.1 to get to the router's settings
#105 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you double check that the router's public IP address there, matches up with the public ip address you see at ipchicken.com?
#106 [02:26] <EnkerMan> It does.
#107 [02:26] <EnkerMan> Hold on a second
#108 [02:26] <EnkerMan> Do I need to set a static IP from my router?
#109 [02:26] <EnkerMan> Last time I tried that I knocked out all of our internet for an hour, but I got a static IP just fine from Windows.
#110 [02:27] <EnkerMan> aw hell, there goes my help
#111 [02:29] <EnkerMan> http://i.imgur.com/m4F43.png If it helps anyone, this is the screen I'm having issues with
#112 [02:29] <fenster> should be tdp/udp and spread the port 25565 to 25566
#113 [02:30] <fenster> and apply that
#114 [02:30] <EnkerMan> Hmm
#115 [02:30] <fenster> tcp/udp
#116 [02:30] <fenster> sry
#117 [02:30] <fenster> u tend to open an extra port
#118 [02:30] <fenster> u=i
#119 [02:30] <EnkerMan> What about Server IP address?
#120 [02:30] <EnkerMan> That's the part I'm having trouble with
#121 [02:30] <fenster> thats your
#122 [02:30] <fenster> internal ip addy
#123 [02:30] <EnkerMan> What do I put in there? Local IP breaks it and external IP isn't allowed
#124 [02:30] <fenster> that should be what ur pc local ip addy
#125 [02:31] <EnkerMan> I'll try once more
#126 [02:31] <fenster> has to be local ip
#127 [02:31] <fenster> i have a similiar router
#128 [02:31] <fenster> went through same thing
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#130 [02:31] <fenster> found it was a problem in the router and had to use a pen to reset it via the button on back
#131 [02:31] <EnkerMan> Can I use that fancy command if I'm not a mod?
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#133 [02:31] <EnkerMan> ;check EnkerMan
#134 [02:31] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-66-31-212-126.hsd1.ma.comcast.net:25565 (Timed out)
#135 [02:31] <fenster> yeah
#136 [02:31] <EnkerMan> Damn it.
#137 [02:31] <fenster> u always can
#138 [02:32] <EnkerMan> Welcome back, Grey
#139 [02:32] <fenster> but you should be able to test yourself
#140 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> Bah. Are you running any other third party security software on that machine?
#141 [02:32] <fenster> using your external ip and trying to connect
#142 [02:32] <EnkerMan> I am not. Just Microsoft Security Essentials.
#143 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Huh, okay..
#144 [02:33] <EnkerMan> imgur.com/m4F43.png
#145 [02:33] <EnkerMan> If it helps, that's the screen I have
#146 [02:33] <EnkerMan> rather, http://i.imgur.com/m4F43.png
#147 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Server IP there is blank..
#148 [02:33] <fenster> he asked about that
#149 [02:34] <EnkerMan> Yeah
#150 [02:34] <fenster> i told him that should be his internal ip server is running on
#151 [02:34] <EnkerMan> I had my local IP, 10.0.0.24
#152 [02:34] <EnkerMan> No luck
#153 [02:34] * GreyVulpine nods
#153 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> It should be your local IP.
#154 [02:34] <fenster> i had the same problem and had to reset my router
#155 [02:34] <fenster> just saying..
#156 [02:34] <EnkerMan> Can I do that from Windows? I don't have physical access to the router at the moment
#157 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> If there's a reboot button in the router's config page, sure
#158 [02:35] <fenster> enker
#159 [02:35] <fenster> you do it from the back of it
#160 [02:35] <fenster> with a pen
#161 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> He said he doesn't have physical access to the router
#162 [02:35] <fenster> there is a little button you press in a hold for 10 seconds
#163 [02:35] <fenster> oh sry
#164 [02:35] <fenster> read he DOES
#165 [02:35] <fenster> sry bout that
#166 [02:36] <EnkerMan> Renew/Release?
#167 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#168 [02:36] <fenster> na
#169 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> That just refreshes your public ip address.
#170 [02:36] <EnkerMan> hmm
#171 [02:37] <fenster> or refreshes your ip/dns witch will 90% likley be the same
#172 [02:37] <fenster> im saying this cause i racked my brain for hours had every port and everything open
#173 [02:37] <fenster> had to reset my router..
#174 [02:37] <EnkerMan> Well it's getting late, I can't find a software button to do so
#175 [02:37] <EnkerMan> I'll ask my father to do it tomorrow
#176 [02:37] <EnkerMan> But until then I'll keep looking
#177 [02:37] <fenster> pfft your dad
#178 [02:37] <fenster> restart that ish
#179 [02:38] <EnkerMan> Well it's in his room and he's asleep
#180 [02:38] <EnkerMan> and I'm a terrible klutz, heh
#181 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Are you able to use 10.0.0.24 via your MC client to connect to your server?
#182 [02:39] <EnkerMan> localhost, 127.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.24 all work.
#183 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Happen to have another computer in your LAN that you can test with?
#184 [02:39] <EnkerMan> Not at the moment, no
#185 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#186 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> Could you post a screenshot of the completed port forwarding rule?
#187 [02:42] <EnkerMan> In the firewall?
#188 [02:42] <fenster> from the router
#189 [02:42] <fenster> config
#190 [02:42] <EnkerMan> Oh
#191 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> The router, but the firewall too, if you're not sure about it
#192 [02:43] <fenster> id turn your fw off at this point to start eliminating causes...
#193 [02:43] <EnkerMan> http://i.imgur.com/QFxV3.png
#194 [02:44] <EnkerMan> As I mentioned before, it's currently 2:43 AM so anything related to actually getting off my ass will have to wait till tomorrow
#195 [02:44] <EnkerMan> First thing I'll do is reset the router, sounds just crazy enough to work
#196 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Is there a list of currently active forwarding rules in the router config page?
#197 [02:44] <EnkerMan> Yes, that's the only one
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#200 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> I have to admit, I'm out of ideas at the moment
#201 [02:48] <EnkerMan> I'm trusting Fenster that resetting the router will work
#202 [02:48] <fenster> grey i was in the same situation earlier and someone said reset your router
#203 [02:48] <EnkerMan> 'cause frankly I've been out of ideas since the beginning
#204 [02:48] <fenster> i did so
#205 [02:48] <fenster> set the port forward
#206 [02:48] <fenster> and it worked
#207 [02:48] <fenster> like magic....
#208 [02:49] <EnkerMan> But again, it's 2:50 AM and I haven't got physical access to the router
#209 [02:49] <fenster> dont put all your hope in me lol...
#210 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Not denying the router reset can work, I've seen it work as well.
#211 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Just wondering what else we can do to check here.
#212 [02:49] <EnkerMan> I'll screw off for tonight and be back tomorrow if I'm still having issues.
#213 [02:49] <EnkerMan> Until then, thanks a ton for the help.
#214 [02:49] <fenster> enker
#215 [02:50] <EnkerMan> hm?
#216 [02:50] <fenster> if your worried about reseting save a backup config of the router
#217 [02:50] <EnkerMan> Right
#218 [02:50] <fenster> you mentioned last time you did sumtin to it you messed it up
#219 [02:50] <fenster> that will save you...
#220 [02:50] <EnkerMan> Done
#221 [02:50] <EnkerMan> Thanks
#222 [02:50] <fenster> in that way
#223 [02:50] <fenster> but it really shoudlny
#224 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> G'luck, let us know how it turns out
#225 [02:50] <EnkerMan> Thanks again
#226 [02:50] <EnkerMan> See ya
#227 [02:50] <fenster> shouldnt a reset router linksys or netgear is ready to rock
#228 [02:50] <fenster> cya mate
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#251 [06:12] <Sladex> my game is crashing again... I've tried all I know to solve it, without any luck... here's the error report...http://mibpaste.com/6Ku77k
#252 [06:23] <Sladex> my game is crashing again... I've tried all I know to solve it, without any luck... here's the error report...http://mibpaste.com/6Ku77k
#253 [06:28] <Wug> Sladex: was it working before
#254 [06:28] <Wug> does it work for a while and then stop or crash immediately
#255 [06:28] <Sladex> it crashes on startup
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#257 [06:28] <Wug> Sladex: has it worked before
#258 [06:29] <Sladex> yes. the crashing begun last night
#259 [06:29] <Wug> it looks like a driver problem
#260 [06:29] <Wug> its possible the driver auto updated itself
#261 [06:29] <Wug> windows does this every so often
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#263 [06:29] <Wug> please do this:
#264 [06:29] <Sladex> I had this problem before. then I updated my graphics driver, and that solved it.. should I just try to go to nvidia website and redownload?
#265 [06:29] <Wug> :dx
#266 [06:29] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#267 [06:29] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#268 [06:30] <Wug> Sladex: yeah, if you know how to do it
#269 [06:30] <Sladex> give me a few mins :)
#270 [06:30] <Wug> if you dont, follow wugbots directions and I'll find you a link to a driver
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#275 [06:46] <Wug> Sladex: any luck
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#277 [07:08] <Sladex> yeah, it worked :)
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#288 [07:57] <Aster> I keep getting End of Streams on my server, any ideas why? I don't get it on other servers.
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#290 [08:24] <Wug> Aster: well hello
#291 [08:24] <Aster> Ohai.
#292 [08:24] <Wug> can you describe your setup
#293 [08:25] <Aster> Ubuntu 11.10, Minecraft with JDK6, connecting to a home hosted server with Bukkit, and yeah.
#294 [08:25] <Aster> :P
#295 [08:25] <Wug> are you connecting to localhost or your internal ip or are you using your external one
#296 [08:26] <Wug> it might be an isp issue
#297 [08:26] <Wug> isps like to suck
#298 [08:27] <andrewxios> or the router
#299 [08:27] <Wug> if youre using your external address to connect, especially
#300 [08:27] <Aster> Well.
#301 [08:27] <Wug> router - less likely but still possible
#302 [08:27] <Aster> I'm connecting to a server in Dallas, and I'm in Europe.
#303 [08:27] <Aster> :P
#304 [08:27] <Aster> So it's not Localhost.
#305 [08:27] <Wug> hmm well
#306 [08:27] <andrewxios> did you try to portforward? some routers are strict about that
#307 [08:27] <Aster> And, through IRC, I can see that other people can connect.
#308 [08:27] <Aster> So it's just me.
#309 [08:28] <Aster> andrewxios, It worked yesterday.
#310 [08:28] <Aster> ._.
#311 [08:28] <Wug> youre on the same version as the server right
#312 [08:28] <Aster> Yup.
#313 [08:28] <Aster> 1.2.5
#314 [08:28] <andrewxios> hmm maybe it is the server
#315 [08:28] <Wug> server doesnt require any mods
#316 [08:29] <Wug> vice versa?
#317 [08:29] <andrewxios> im also in europe, is this a whitlisted one?
#318 [08:31] <Aster> Nope.
#319 [08:31] <Aster> I know that other Europeans are connected.
#320 [08:31] <Aster> It's just me.
#321 [08:31] <Aster> And Wug, nope, no mods.
#322 [08:31] <Wug> what address
#323 [08:34] <EyesIsMine> Aster, "Ubuntu 11.10"
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#325 [08:34] <EyesIsMine> there's ya problem
#326 [08:34] <Aster> ._.
#327 [08:34] <Aster> I could connect yesterday.
#328 [08:34] <EyesIsMine> still
#329 [08:34] <EyesIsMine> it's ubuntu
#330 [08:34] <Wug> Aster: server address
#331 [08:34] <Aster> And I haven't shut my vomputer down since.
#332 [08:34] <Wug> what is it
#333 [08:34] <EyesIsMine> ubuntu likes to kill servers
#334 [08:34] <Aster> archivesmc.com:25581
#335 [08:34] <andrewxios> is bukkit tcp or udp?
#336 [08:34] <Wug> ;check archivesmc.com:25581
#337 [08:34] <WugBot> archivesmc.com:25581 seems to host a minecraft server: Archives - Release Creative (1.2.5) (4/20)
#338 [08:35] <EyesIsMine> restart the server?
#339 [08:35] <Wug> Aster: try connecting directly?
#340 [08:35] <Aster> EyesIsMine, Not. Ubuntu.
#341 [08:35] <EyesIsMine> Ubuntu is crap
#342 [08:35] <Wug> close and reopen minecraft?
#343 [08:35] <Aster> I have.
#344 [08:35] <Wug> EyesIsMine: all os
#345 [08:35] <Aster> I can even connect to the SMP server.
#346 [08:35] <Wug> all os' suck'
#347 [08:35] <Aster> And the Website.
#348 [08:35] <Aster> But I can't connect to the CMP.
#349 [08:35] <EyesIsMine> oh
#350 [08:36] <EyesIsMine> creative
#351 [08:36] * EyesIsMine ignores everthing
#351 [08:36] <andrewxios> maybe they changed the port and your router has that port closed
#352 [08:36] <EyesIsMine> screw everything!
#353 [08:36] <Wug> ;check archivesms.com:25581
#354 [08:36] <WugBot> Failed to resolve address: archivesms.com
#355 [08:36] <Wug> Aster: whats the survival one
#356 [08:36] <EyesIsMine> ;check archivesms.com
#357 [08:36] <WugBot> Failed to resolve address: archivesms.com
#358 [08:36] <EyesIsMine> ;check archivesmc.com
#359 [08:36] <WugBot> archivesmc.com:25565 is accepting connections.
#360 [08:37] <Aster> 25590
#361 [08:37] <Wug> ;check archivesmc.com:25590
#362 [08:37] <WugBot> archivesmc.com:25590 seems to host a minecraft server: Beware of the CHICKENS! (0/20)
#363 [08:37] <Aster> ;check archivesmc:25590
#364 [08:37] <WugBot> Unable to determine the hostname of archivesmc:25590. Nobody with that nickname seems to be online.
#365 [08:37] <EyesIsMine> ;check archivesmc.com:25590
#366 [08:37] <WugBot> archivesmc.com:25590 seems to host a minecraft server: Beware of the CHICKENS! (0/20)
#367 [08:37] <Aster> Woops.
#368 [08:37] <Aster> xD
#369 [08:37] <EyesIsMine> just play survival
#370 [08:37] <Aster> See?
#371 [08:37] <Aster> I need to go on CMP to fix grief.
#372 [08:37] <EyesIsMine> do it from console
#373 [08:37] <Aster> Not to play.
#374 [08:37] * Aster slaps EyesIsMine.
#374 [08:38] <EyesIsMine> ohwait
#375 [08:38] <Aster> How do I fix grief from console?
#376 [08:38] <Wug> youre totally positive you didnt make a typo in the poty
#377 [08:38] <Wug> port*
#378 [08:38] <Aster> Yes.
#379 [08:38] <Aster> Nice typo.
#380 [08:38] <Aster> :P
#381 [08:38] <EyesIsMine> you're a ubuntu user
#382 [08:38] <EyesIsMine> console usage flies over your head
#383 [08:38] <Aster> xD
#384 [08:38] <Wug> EyesIsMine: what os do you use then
#385 [08:38] <EyesIsMine> debian 6
#386 [08:38] <Wug> ... so ubuntu
#387 [08:38] <Aster> EyesIsMine, I use Terminal every day.
#388 [08:38] <EyesIsMine> I have 8 terminal windows open currently
#389 [08:38] <Wug> minus one or two frills
#390 [08:38] <EyesIsMine> no
#391 [08:38] <EyesIsMine> debian != ubuntu
#392 [08:39] <EyesIsMine> ubuntu == debian + bugs + extra crap
#393 [08:39] <Aster> Nope.avi
#394 [08:39] <Wug> theyre closer than ubuntu and everything else
#395 [08:39] <Aster> Anyways.
#396 [08:39] <Wug> closer than freebsd and mac
#397 [08:39] <EyesIsMine> ubuntu is based off of debian
#398 [08:39] <Aster> How am I supposed to fix grief from console, EyesIsMine?
#399 [08:40] <EyesIsMine> worldedit?
#400 [08:40] <EyesIsMine> backups?
#401 [08:40] <Wug> because doing that blind is a great idea
#402 [08:40] <EyesIsMine> you can just mv ~/server/world ~/server/worldbak
#403 [08:40] <EyesIsMine> then cp the backup over
#404 [08:40] <EyesIsMine> then rebootinate
#405 [08:40] <Wug> I think the idea is not to rebootinate
#406 [08:41] <EyesIsMine> well try it anyway
#407 [08:41] <EyesIsMine> rebootinate fixes stuff
#408 [08:41] <Wug> rebootinating does sometimes fix things
#409 [08:41] <Wug> .. if you have a mac
#410 [08:41] <Wug> its not even windows anymore
#411 [08:41] <Wug> anyway
#412 [08:42] <EyesIsMine> tl;dr ubuntu is crap, solution: rebootinate
#413 [08:42] <Aster> EyesIsMine, I'm not going to rollback every block the players have placed since 1 hhours ago.
#414 [08:42] <Aster> hour*
#415 [08:42] <EyesIsMine> good for you
#416 [08:42] <Wug> your tldr leaves something to be desired
#417 [08:42] <EyesIsMine> now on yer bike
#418 [08:42] <Wug> if youre not going to be helpful than go away
#419 [08:42] <EyesIsMine> I'm being helpful
#420 [08:42] <Aster> EyesIsMine, you're not being helpf-- Ninja'd.
#421 [08:42] <Wug> no, you are not
#422 [08:42] <EyesIsMine> just in a different ay
#423 [08:42] <Wug> oh
#424 [08:42] <Wug> well
#425 [08:42] <Wug> 2 can play at that game
#426 [08:43] * Wug kicked EyesIsMine from #minecrafthelp (Reason: yesIsMine :I'm being helpful)
#427 [08:43] <Wug> last time there was an issue like this
#428 [08:43] <Wug> it was someone typing the wrong address
#429 [08:43] <Wug> so if you're so much as 1% below 100000% sure the address is right
#430 [08:43] <Wug> delete it and retype it
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#432 [08:45] <Wug> Aster: can you connect to it with telnet
#433 [08:45] <Aster> Wug, it's the right address, since It's the same one as 9 hours ago.
#434 [08:45] <Aster> And 9 hours ago, I could connect.
#435 [08:46] <Wug> pull it up in telnet
#436 [08:46] <Wug> use telnet archivesmc.com 25581
#437 [08:47] <Wug> open the connection and send some stuff and it should boot you as soon as you so
#438 [08:47] <Wug> do*
#439 [08:49] * Aster doesn't have telnet
#439 [08:49] <Aster> I'm still waiting for console access to the server.
#440 [08:50] <Wug> you do to have telnet
#441 [08:50] <Wug> you have ubuntu right
#442 [08:50] <Wug> it comes installed by default
#443 [08:50] <Aster> Yeah.
#444 [08:50] <Aster> I'm still waiting for console access to the server.
#445 [08:50] <Wug> why would you need console access
#446 [08:52] <Aster> It connects.
#447 [08:52] <Wug> does it disconnect when you send stuff
#448 [08:52] <Wug> should disconnect for any printable character
#449 [08:52] <Wug> I think its looking for either 0x00 or 0x01
#450 [08:52] <Wug> dont remember which is first
#451 [08:53] <Aster> Let me check.
#452 [08:53] <Aster> It disconnects when I send 'a'.
#453 [08:53] <Wug> ok, try minecraft again
#454 [08:53] <Wug> if it was a retarded backend networking issue
#455 [08:53] <Aster> Nope.
#456 [08:54] <Aster> I connect, I get "Downloading terrain" for a split second, and then I get EoS
#457 [08:54] <Wug> hmm you might try deleting your player data
#458 [08:54] <Wug> if its borked for some reason that will fix it
#459 [08:55] <Wug> try to get the log file if you can, and pastebin it
#460 [08:55] <Aster> Which player data?
#461 [08:55] <Wug> yours
#462 [08:55] <Aster> Server side?
#463 [08:55] <Wug> <yourname>.dat in /world/players
#464 [08:55] <Wug> I think
#465 [08:55] <Wug> yes, server side
#466 [08:56] <Aster> I said, I don't have access to the actual server yet.
#467 [08:56] <Aster> I'm new staff.
#468 [08:56] <Aster> :P
#469 [08:57] <Wug> I just connected
#470 [08:57] <Wug> its loading chunks slower than death
#471 [08:57] <Aster> So it's server-side slowness?
#472 [08:57] <Aster> Maybe a background process that's killing the machine?
#473 [08:57] <Wug> appears to be something like that
#474 [08:57] <Wug> lots of lag
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#477 [09:19] <Wug> Aster: well thats fantastic
#478 [09:19] <Aster> ?
#479 [09:19] <Wug> the herpery
#480 [09:20] <Aster> ?
#481 [09:20] <Wug> server is all derp
#482 [09:21] <Aster> I noticed.
#483 [09:33] <Aster> http://pastebin.com/4VYj4nJ1
#484 [09:34] <Wug> where is minecraft.jar
#485 [09:34] <Wug> you have to cd to that folder
#486 [09:34] <Aster> I did.
#487 [09:34] <Wug> if its in Downloads you would need to do "cd Downloads" first
#488 [09:34] <Aster> It's on my Desktop.
#489 [09:34] <Aster> And I cd'ed to there.
#490 [09:35] <Wug> ok, use ls minecraft*
#491 [09:35] <Wug> if its there it should show its name
#492 [09:36] <Wug> uhh hang on wait
#493 [09:36] <Wug> did you copy and paste that command
#494 [09:36] <Wug> because you should
#495 [09:36] <Wug> java -cp net.minecraft.LauncherFrame minecraft.jar
#496 [09:37] <Aster> I did.
#497 [09:37] <Wug> does ls indicate that any files called minecraft are there
#498 [09:37] <Aster> "minecraft.jar
#499 [09:37] <Aster> "
#500 [09:37] <Aster> That's what it gives me.
#501 [09:37] <Wug> that command should work ...
#502 [09:38] <Wug> copy and paste the line you used
#503 [09:38] <andrewxios> did you try to force update?
#504 [09:38] <Aster> Yes.
#505 [09:38] <Wug> OH HURRR
#506 [09:38] <Aster> ?
#507 [09:38] <Wug> java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#508 [09:38] <Aster> Oh.
#509 [09:39] <Aster> Lawl.
#510 [09:39] * Wug argflip
#510 [09:39] <andrewxios> minecraft where minecraft.jar != minecraft.jar xD
#511 [09:40] <Aster> It launched the launcher.
#512 [09:40] <Aster> And gave me a bunch of GTK warnings.
#513 [09:40] <Wug> yeah ignore those
#514 [09:40] <Wug> log in and it will do the setting user <you> <blarg>
#515 [09:40] <Wug> I have to figure out how to launch manually
#516 [09:41] <Aster> You want me to send you the session token ID thing>?
#517 [09:41] <Wug> via pm please
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#523 [10:23] <mib_xetbue> hey i got a question about registration on minecraft.net
#524 [10:23] <SinZ> I'm listening
#525 [10:24] <mib_xetbue> i registered with an email with a mail.ru domen which is a real existing domain and even a huge mail doman but well its russian
#526 [10:25] <mib_xetbue> the varification code for the email, will it be sent immediately or is it possible that i have to wait about a day or something ?
#527 [10:25] <SinZ> it is sent immediately, but sometimes it takes awhile
#528 [10:26] <mib_xetbue> hm okay, but just in case i will not recieve any email. wha shall i do then ?
#529 [10:26] <SinZ> Wait
#530 [10:27] <mib_xetbue> well okay. =) thanks then. have a nice day =)
#531 [10:27] <SinZ> you too
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#543 [10:57] <Blobeh> my bot isnt connecting :S im on canary with IRCanary plugin
#544 [10:57] <Blobeh> http://forums.canarymod.net/?topic=1380.msg11884#msg11884
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#546 [11:01] <Magix> anyway
#547 [11:01] <Magix> is there a limit to mobs in the end?
#548 [11:01] <Magix> I made an enderman and it seems to cap at liek 50
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#550 [11:08] <Boreeas> Oh god, people still use Canary?
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#554 [11:22] <wilma> is anyone from andrew's public craft fcraft
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#559 [11:45] <Jung> I am looking for an SP mod that is like MinecraftLandGenerator that loads chunks up and fills up your world to a specific radius. Can anyone recommend such a program?
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#561 [11:45] <Jung> its for my server and id want all the chunks loaded before i upload it.
#562 [11:47] <Jung> I acknowledge that i cn just simply generate a map without walking around and just upload it but I am using a Minecraft seed mod called: Wedge to generate unique terrain. Unlike other terrain editors. this mod modifies the seed algorithm intead of changing the terrain after chunk loaded.
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#581 [13:29] <mib_k2jbbg> is anyone a mod on andrews public craft fcraft
#582 [13:31] <Calinou> no.
#583 [13:31] <mib_k2jbbg> damn
#584 [13:31] <Calinou> if you get banned from a server it's your fault
#585 [13:31] <Calinou> (or... the admins suck maybe.)
#586 [13:32] <mib_k2jbbg> no its not i was building my own stuff
#587 [13:32] <Calinou> well, we can't unban you (if you are even banned)
#588 [13:32] <Calinou> there are a huge amount of MC servers out there, just go on another server :P
#589 [13:33] <mib_k2jbbg> i guess thats true but it does piss me off
#590 [13:33] <Calinou> when I get banned I just move.
#591 [13:33] * Calinou is banned from ten minecraft servers, no lies
#591 [13:34] <Dan> s**t happens just move on
#592 [13:34] <mib_k2jbbg> if i didnt put alot of work on something it would have not been a big deal
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#594 [13:34] <mib_q209gu> halp my minecraft is brokked
#595 [13:35] <Dan> mib_k2jbbg, then why dont you just make your own mc server
#596 [13:35] * mib_q209gu resists the urge to be obnoxious and spammy
#596 [13:35] <mib_k2jbbg> mocking someone new bravo
#597 [13:37] * mib_q209gu resists urge harder
#597 [13:37] <Dan> mib_q209gu, just dont spam trust me it wont help you at all
#598 [13:37] <mib_k2jbbg> you consider what ive said so far as spam
#599 [13:37] <mib_q209gu> Dan: trust me, if I was coming here for help, there would be nothing anyone could do
#600 [13:38] <mib_q209gu> mib_k2jbbg: keep in mind that our names are similar. I'm not you
#601 [13:38] <Calinou> mib_q209gu, once I was banned from a server I knew since more than a year
#602 [13:38] <Calinou> had a lot of stuff on it. huge amounts of stuff in chests, a good amount of builds
#603 [13:38] <Calinou> was banned for flying (yeah, that server didn't have nocheat, lol)
#604 [13:39] <Calinou> I just moved on :P
#605 [13:39] <mib_q209gu> Calinou: uhh
#606 [13:39] <mib_q209gu> wut
#607 [13:39] <Calinou> mib_q209gu, define "my minecraft is brokked" please
#608 [13:39] <Calinou> was talking to mib_k2jbbg ;)
#609 [13:39] <Dan> mib_q209gu, that was ment for mib_k2jbbg
#610 [13:40] <Calinou> do you get any error message?
#611 [13:40] <mib_q209gu> this is the part where I give you no details
#612 [13:40] <Calinou> why?
#613 [13:40] <mib_q209gu> you're forgetting the number one rule of this channel
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#615 [13:40] <mib_q209gu> what hostname do we look for
#616 [13:40] <mib_q209gu> when people join
#617 [13:41] <Calinou> mibbit? and?
#618 [13:41] <Dan> mib_q209gu, if you need help, details are going to help just dont display your username or passwords
#619 [13:41] <Calinou> it's okay as long as you behave correctly
#620 [13:41] * mib_q209gu is rolling in his chair laughing
#620 [13:41] <mib_q209gu> Calinou: the answer is *.rit.edu
#621 [13:41] <Calinou> why?
#622 [13:41] <mib_q209gu> unless proven otherwise, Wug controls the entire campus
#623 [13:41] <Calinou> mikeeusa spotted
#624 [13:43] <mib_q209gu> RIT is awesome. as such, I can visit from any *.rit.edu hostname that isnt taken by another student
#625 [13:43] <mib_q209gu> I've been dialing the trolling up more and more each time I visit
#626 [13:43] <mib_q209gu> nobody has caught onto me yet without me giving it away :O
#627 [13:44] <Calinou> so? you want help? you said your minecraft was broken.
#628 [13:45] <mib_q209gu> Calinou: I'm wug
#629 [13:45] <mib_q209gu> if my minecraft is broken there isnt a person in this channel who can fix it
#630 [13:45] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#631 [13:46] <Calinou> why do you have a name like this then
#632 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> It's a wug!
#633 [13:46] <mib_q209gu> Calinou: because I'm a troll
#634 [13:46] <mib_q209gu> I do this a lot
#635 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> 1.2.6 snapshot is out. go go go!
#636 [13:46] <Calinou> Grim_Reaper, better
#637 [13:46] <Calinou> 1.3 is out!!!
#638 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> No it isn't
#639 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> 1.2.6 snapshot JUST got released though
#640 [13:49] <sugoi> 1. 09:37 < mib_q209gu> Dan: trust me, if I was coming here for help, there would be nothing anyone could do
#641 [13:49] <sugoi> 2. wow, what a serious douche, i should kick him
#642 [13:49] <sugoi> 3. <@mib_q209gu> Calinou: I'm wug
#643 [13:49] <sugoi> 4. yeah, douche
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#645 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#646 [13:50] <Calinou> sugoi you aren't an op :P
#647 [13:50] <NotWug> sugoi: :S
#648 [13:50] <Calinou> well maybe you have bot access
#649 [13:50] <NotWug> I'm not an op either
#650 [13:50] <NotWug> I'm just a helpless miblet
#651 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> ;k NotWug yes. yes you are
#652 [13:50] * WugBot kicked NotWug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: otWug :yes. yes you are)
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#654 [13:51] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#655 [13:51] <Grim_Reaper> oh gosh
#656 [13:51] * Grim_Reaper hidesz ;-;
#656 [13:51] * NotWug hurls lightning bolts
#656 [13:51] <Grim_Reaper> D:
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#658 [13:52] <Grim_Reaper> On a quick sidenote. #mchelp is now about wug trolling and hurling lightning bolts apparently
#659 [13:52] <NotWug> mch has been about wug trolling for a long time
#660 [13:52] <NotWug> I specifically make sure to come here and do this about once a week
#661 [13:52] <sugoi> Calinou: bot access
#662 [13:53] <NotWug> Dan: thanks for trying to help though
#663 [13:53] <NotWug> you didnt know you were doomed c:
#664 [13:53] <Grim_Reaper> poor dan
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#667 [14:00] <mib_r6zer5> halp
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#669 [14:01] <mib_r6zer5> minecraft is broken!
#670 [14:01] <sugoi> mib_r6zer5: haha
#671 [14:01] <sugoi> mib_r6zer5: what is broken about it?
#672 [14:01] <mib_r6zer5> say "banned on server"
#673 [14:01] * sugoi was laughing at "halp", it's a fnuny word
#673 [14:01] <sugoi> fnuny is a funny word too
#674 [14:01] <mib_r6zer5> haha yes i think so too
#675 [14:01] <sugoi> mib_r6zer5: that would be an issue with the people hosting the server, not minecraft
#676 [14:01] <Calinou> mib_r6zer5, this means you were banned from a server.
#677 [14:01] <Calinou> just go to another server
#678 [14:01] <mib_r6zer5> can notch unban me?
#679 [14:02] <Calinou> no. (quit trolling)
#680 [14:02] <mib_r6zer5> ???
#681 [14:02] <sugoi> hahaa
#682 [14:02] <Calinou> mikeeusa spotted
#683 [14:02] <Calinou> he won't unban you sorry
#684 [14:02] <Calinou> he's not even there
#685 [14:02] <mib_r6zer5> fuck notch
#686 [14:02] * AuBot kicked mib_r6zer5 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ib_r6zer5 :Please keep it civil.)
#687 [14:02] <NotWug> lolk
#688 [14:02] <Calinou> lol
#689 [14:02] <NotWug> that wasnt me
#690 [14:02] <Calinou> I know
#691 [14:02] <Boreeas> NotWug: You are right, this /is/ fun
#692 [14:02] <NotWug> but I know what to say next time
#693 [14:02] <Calinou> if you say "f*ck" it kicks you
#694 [14:03] <Boreeas> (Yes, that was me ;))
#695 [14:03] * NotWug HAS Boreeas' IP ADDRESS
#695 [14:03] <Boreeas> ZOMG!!!
#696 [14:03] <NotWug> .. I had it anyway
#697 [14:03] <Boreeas> Stalker!!!oneonecos0
#698 [14:03] <NotWug> also lol "halp"
#699 [14:04] <NotWug> ive said that the past 3 or 4 times
#700 [14:04] <NotWug> but despite that and my .rit.edu hostname nobody has picked up on me :<
#701 [14:04] <NotWug> I feel all alone
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#703 [14:07] <kintelligence> Hello I was hoping you could help me.
#704 [14:07] <Boreeas> :|
#705 [14:07] <Boreeas> I'm not sure what to think anymore.
#706 [14:08] * Boreeas runs in circles
#706 [14:08] <sugoi> haha
#707 [14:08] <kintelligence> Whenever i try yo launch minecraft i get a grey screen and this: <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.io.IOException: Error writing to server</center></font></body></html>
#708 [14:08] <kintelligence> I tried looking around on the web of course... but i couldn't find anything usefull...
#709 [14:09] <kintelligence> I can play and update through the browser though
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#711 [14:09] <sugoi> kintelligence: sounds like something is blocking java
#712 [14:09] <sugoi> such as antivirus/firewalls
#713 [14:10] <kintelligence> blocking java... I'll check
#714 [14:10] <sugoi> well could you completely disable any antivirus, see if it works, then configure antivirus
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#716 [14:10] <kintelligence> k
#717 [14:10] <kintelligence> im on it
#718 [14:11] <sugoi> speaking of antivirus....i read yesterday that apple recommends mac users uninstall java and flash to protect themselves from viruses
#719 [14:11] * sugoi looks for relevent link
#719 [14:11] <kintelligence> nice i'll put in an exeption for java... thanks
#720 [14:11] <NotWug> yeah, theres a mac malware thing going around that uses a java vulnerability
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#722 [14:12] <NotWug> they want you to uninstall flash too because apple and adobe hate each other
#723 [14:12] <kintelligence> ... which exe should i put in an exeption for... surely not all of them :O
#724 [14:12] <sugoi> :), i'm up to date with those itmes, yes, but my 'wut' surprise was the "solution"
#725 [14:13] <NotWug> kintelligence: c:\windows\system32\javaw.exe I believe
#726 [14:13] <NotWug> is the one that minecraft uses to run by default
#727 [14:13] <kintelligence> Doesn't work
#728 [14:13] <NotWug> what version of java do you have
#729 [14:14] <kintelligence> I just uninstall all of them and installed the latest version 6 build
#730 [14:14] <kintelligence> But jre7 is somehow still on my pc?
#731 [14:14] <NotWug> hmm
#732 [14:14] <NotWug> does it say it is?
#733 [14:15] <kintelligence> It's in my java folder... and the sub folders are filled with the stuff they're supposed to be filled with
#734 [14:17] <kintelligence> I tried putting an exeption in on the javaaw in the jre7 folder but nothing changed
#735 [14:18] <sugoi> kintelligence: run the launcher, check task manager, find the java process, right-click it context menu and select "open file location"
#736 [14:19] <kintelligence> it's running the jre7 version which i also unblocked but it's still grey
#737 [14:20] <sugoi> go to programs and features in your control panel and uninstall j7
#738 [14:21] <kintelligence> ... just wondering why it's still there but i'll do it
#739 [14:22] <kintelligence> It WORKS now! Thanks! how come jre7 isn't compatible?
#740 [14:22] <sugoi> sockets and ipv6 and java and wug
#741 [14:24] <Jung> Hey guys, I am looking for a Minecraft land generator that will pregenerate a world with a specific radius. I want to use MLG but it is for multiplayer. In my situation, I am using the wedge seed generator: http://miburl.com/qc64kK. I am trying to pregenerate a world with a 2,000 block radius and then upload that map to my server.
#742 [14:24] <Jung> Ive tried flying with singleplayercommands and Optifine mod to load chunks faster but its still tedious. I am worried that theres a mod out there that would have optimized my time.
#743 [14:25] <sugoi> Jung: curious, if you're going to upload it, why not use tools that are for multiplayer?
#744 [14:25] <Jung> good question sugoi,
#745 [14:25] <sugoi> that's why i'm here
#746 [14:26] <Jung> because the wedge mod is only for single player. When i uploaded a small chunk map to the server, the newly generated terrain didnt match the unique terrain that the wedge terrain mod created.
#747 [14:27] <sugoi> ok, but i would blame that on the generator
#748 [14:27] <sugoi> let's see if i can remember a tool i used to prechunk before
#749 [14:28] <Jung> no blaming intented. Just trying to find a efficent solution to this. My idea is to see if there is a kind of mod that will pregenerate lots of chunk
#750 [14:28] <Jung> intended*
#751 [14:28] <sugoi> Jung: honestly, ask on #bukkit - i'm pretty dang sure i did this with bukkit or a mod thereof, perhaps worldedit
#752 [14:28] <sugoi> i can't remember tho, been a while
#753 [14:29] <Jung> heh yea.
#754 [14:29] <Jung> I did but i got laughed at, "LOL WHY AT #bukkit goto #minecrafthelp :(
#755 [14:30] <Jung> i guess for now i will continue soaring around the map
#756 [14:30] <Jung> thanks for the response tho sugoi
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#768 [15:29] <Mrwobin> hello
#769 [15:29] <GreyVulpine> Hello
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#787 [15:46] <Mrwobin> I have a slight problem, had a 16gb 2x dual 3ghz server intel ssd before that was able to host 200 people no lag, now I have got a 32gb 2x quad 2.5ghz server with ocz ssd and I can barely host 50 with it lagging like crazy, server files not changed....
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#791 [15:46] <Wug> Mrwobin: no plugin changes or anything
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#794 [15:46] <Mrwobin> does anyone know how to optimise it for multiple cores ?
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#796 [15:47] <Wug> you cant
#797 [15:47] <Wug> minecraft is, at this point, inherently single threaded
#798 [15:47] <Mrwobin> nothing has changed at all, just straight up copy from the previous machines drive
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#800 [15:47] <Morrolan> The one thing you could try is switching over to CraftBukkit++, a fairly optimized version of Craftbukkit.
#801 [15:47] <Mrwobin> Ive done that already :)
#802 [15:47] <Morrolan> As to why it's lagging, no clue.
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#805 [15:48] <Morrolan> I suppose your network conncetion didn't change?
#806 [15:48] <Morrolan> connection*
#807 [15:48] <Mrwobin> thing is, I have to make the decision to go to the datacentre tomorrow and swap out the 2x quad 2.5 cores for the 2x dual 3's
#808 [15:48] <Mrwobin> no no, 100m line
#809 [15:48] <Morrolan> If you use it for Minecraft only then go for the dual core, quad one won't bring much, as Wug said. :)
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#813 [15:49] <Wug> Mrwobin: your best bet would be a really fast dual core
#814 [15:49] <Morrolan> Ofcourse it could be that they messed up the installation of the new SSD / that its firmware is having issues with whatever distro they're using. But that's pretty unlikely.
#815 [15:49] <Mrwobin> well, the max that mobo takes is 3.1ghz
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#817 [15:50] <Mrwobin> Its my hardware... I colocate a server in a datacentre
#818 [15:50] <Morrolan> Ah.
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#820 [15:50] <Mrwobin> before with the 3gz I could host 4x 50 players with them all full no lag
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#822 [15:51] <Mrwobin> my only drawback then was ram... I bought a new server with double the ram, double the cores... yet I can host only a quarter of the players from before
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#825 [15:53] <Mrwobin> if anyone is reading this and knows of any Garbage collecting things i can attach to startup to make it run nice again. please holla
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#832 [15:57] <|Kiikun|> i thought java was fairly good in its garbage collection.
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#854 [17:08] <NinjaKirby> WHAT
#855 [17:08] <NinjaKirby> Wait, never mind, I thought I just witnessed the bizarrest glitch, but it's just really great AI Pathfinding
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#857 [17:09] <ThePanCakeKid95> Hey
#858 [17:10] <NinjaKirby> Allo there
#859 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> yes.. the pathfinding is.... evil now
#860 [17:12] <|Kiikun|> i had a creeper stalking me in the caves and it kept repathing to me through side tunnels :P
#861 [17:19] <oldtopman> NinjaKirby: What was the percieved effect?
#862 [17:19] <oldtopman> ThePanCakeKid95: How's your day?
#863 [17:20] <NinjaKirby> oldtopman: Dark chasm area, they managed to jump up the side wall. I thought they pushed through a tiny hole in the fence, but they actually dropped from above
#864 [17:20] <oldtopman> ha, cool
#865 [17:21] <NinjaKirby> They're all so sneaky, and seeing a Creeper see you then suddenly charge round fencing and stuff to get to you is so un-nerving
#866 [17:21] <NinjaKirby> So fearless ~_~
#867 [17:21] <NinjaKirby> "I seen you YUR DEAD", response
#868 [17:23] <NinjaKirby> I fukken' love my map, lol, I don't give myself much praise, but damn, I'm so chuffed
#869 [17:25] <oldtopman> "Wipe yourself off. You dead!" - Chris Tucker, Rush Hour
#870 [17:25] <oldtopman> Also quoted by creepers between the time you die and respawn.
#871 [17:26] <NinjaKirby> "Wipe yourself off... your bleeding" *Signals to have him killed* "Aww hell naw man! He just messin', he don't mean that"
#872 [17:29] * oldtopman chuckles
#872 [17:29] <NinjaKirby> Oh no, wtf? I haven't put any Iron Shovels in my map, where did this come from. Not some kind of Mob loot is it? Don't tell me more uncontrollable factors -_-
#873 [17:30] <ThePanCakeKid95> hey so do any of you have texture packs
#874 [17:31] <NinjaKirby> :/
#875 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> Nope. They ruin the sanctity of the game.
#876 [17:32] <NinjaKirby> Only Vanilla is the Winner, word up
#877 [17:32] <ThePanCakeKid95> all ok so you like the natural look?
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#879 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#880 [17:37] * oldtopman high fives NinjaKirby
#880 [17:38] <oldtopman> I have undertaken the task of running a vanilla server.
#881 [17:39] <oldtopman> Not always easy, but worth it more often thatn not.
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#883 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> I don't believe this
#884 [17:43] * NinjaKirby delay high-fives
#884 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> Bit distracted man ^^;; Scusey me
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#887 [17:50] * |Kiikun| uses a trxture pack :P
#887 [17:50] <Eddie> I heard texture packs are better.
#888 [17:50] <|Kiikun|> faithful... slightly edited
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#892 [18:00] <sugoi> i think i'm going to buy a SSD for my lappy today
#893 [18:03] <NinjaKirby> Splashing out for a good one?
#894 [18:03] <NinjaKirby> Splashing out for a good one?
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#896 [18:05] <sugoi> 'splashing' ?
#897 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> I think he meant, "splurging"
#898 [18:07] <NinjaKirby> http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/splash-out-sth Fair enough, it's a British saying
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#900 [18:18] <sugoi> huh ... it's like a language from a totally different country or something </freshman_derp>
#901 [18:19] * NinjaKirby raises an eyebrow
#901 [18:21] <sugoi> derp bc i'm stating the obvious (different country), but making the point that en-gb has continued to diverge from en-us
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#907 [18:36] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: but to answer your question: it's a little spashy [ :P ], but partially because i have a game that logs a ton (beta testing ksp) and sometimes it hangs, i think it's the disk
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#909 [18:39] <sirbreauxseph> Hey, so just like...yesterday, I started up minecraft again (1.2.5) and after i click log in, it loads, then i just get a blackscreen. I've uninstalled, reinstalled, deleted the bin and forced an update, done all kinds of stuff, nothing works.
#910 [18:39] <sirbreauxseph> and i updated my drivers like...couple weeks ago. so unless i need to do that again...i'm not sure.
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#912 [18:40] <oldtopman> I know you reinstalled, but try this script:
#913 [18:40] <oldtopman> ??> sirbreauxseph win/reinst/bat
#914 [18:40] <VoxelHead> sirbreauxseph: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#915 [18:40] <VoxelHead> sirbreauxseph: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#916 [18:40] <oldtopman> sirbreauxseph: If it doesn't work, you'll likely have to reinstall java.
#917 [18:41] <sirbreauxseph> alright, i'll try that real fast. be right back
#918 [18:41] <Dorfl> I have finally entered the Nether, and all I get is the portal buried surrounded by those red bricks. I tunneled far and wide, and didn't get to anything interesting. Is this normal? Am I better going up or down if I want interesting things and fortresses?
#919 [18:41] <GreyVulpine> Probably better off digging up or down
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#922 [18:42] <oldtopman> Dorfl: Dig to y=75, then go sideways
#923 [18:43] <Dorfl> y=75?
#924 [18:43] <oldtopman> Dorfl: Press F3
#925 [18:43] <sirbreauxseph> hit F3 while playing, it'll bring up all that jazz.
#926 [18:44] <oldtopman> Upper left corner, there is a y coordinate. That's your "height"
#927 [18:44] <oldtopman> When that says 75.xxxxxxxxxxxxx
#928 [18:44] <sirbreauxseph> and the y value is your height.
#929 [18:44] <sirbreauxseph> ugh, beat me to it .
#930 [18:44] <oldtopman> Dig sideways.
#931 [18:44] <oldtopman> ops, y u no voice me D:<
#932 [18:47] <Dorfl> Is there any significance to these coordinates other than that? Will I find anything interesting around (0, 0, 0) in the overworld?
#933 [18:48] <oldtopman> No, not really.
#934 [18:48] <oldtopman> It's just how data is stored, etc.
#935 [18:48] <Dorfl> I'm digging sideways from ~75. Nothing so far.
#936 [18:48] <oldtopman> Yeah, the nether is odd.
#937 [18:48] <oldtopman> Is it you first time down there?
#938 [18:49] <Dorfl> First time, yes. Is it not typically like this?
#939 [18:50] <oldtopman> Not usually.
#940 [18:50] <oldtopman> But yeah, you'll see what I'm talking about when you finally reach *outside*
#941 [18:51] <Dorfl> Got there. BIG open areas.
#942 [18:51] <Omega_Guardian> maybe try going up a few like a staircase? Helps in case happen to have spawned inside a nether mountain
#943 [18:51] <Dorfl> What's to find here?
#944 [18:51] <oldtopman> yerp
#945 [18:52] <Omega_Guardian> ah
#946 [18:52] <Omega_Guardian> nothing much sadly :P
#947 [18:52] <oldtopman> Omega_Guardian: He was at 75 with no lava :P
#948 [18:52] <Dorfl> Fortresses?
#949 [18:52] <oldtopman> Yep, but those are RARE
#950 [18:52] <Dorfl> I need to harvest Blazes for my eyes of ender. No
#951 [18:52] <Dorfl> ?
#952 [18:52] <Omega_Guardian> no recipe for netherrack into ...anything. Nether brick can make some stairs and something else, a few mobs, thats all I know
#953 [18:53] <Omega_Guardian> probably would take Jeb 5 seconds to code some recipes in. But he doesn't :P
#954 [18:54] <Dorfl> Don't I _need_ to go to the Nether, to obtain Blaze for my Eyes of Ender so that I may find strongholds in the normal world?
#955 [18:55] <oldtopman> Yep.
#956 [18:56] <Dorfl> But these fortresses are nevertheless VERY rare?
#957 [18:56] <oldtopman> You got it.
#958 [18:57] <Dorfl> Shit. Any tips about finding them? Am I even likely to find one in less than several hours?
#959 [18:57] <oldtopman> Dorfl: Put your items up, keep a few iron picks handy and use dirt to make a trail.
#960 [18:57] <oldtopman> er, stone picks/shovels
#961 [18:57] <oldtopman> Trail on a path until you find a fortress.
#962 [18:58] <Dorfl> How long is it likely to take?
#963 [18:58] <oldtopman> idk
#964 [18:58] * oldtopman has used flymod and found ONE after a half hour.
#964 [18:58] <oldtopman> But I was flying over kilometers of lava.
#965 [18:59] <Dorfl> What's flymode?
#966 [18:59] <Dorfl> Isn't that cheating in normal survival mode?
#967 [18:59] * oldtopman was creativemoded
#967 [18:59] <oldtopman> Just to see how many there were.
#968 [18:59] * oldtopman was dissapoint.
#968 [18:59] <Dorfl> Crap. I'm never getting to the End.
#969 [19:01] <oldtopman> Oh, did you know that if a ravine runs through the end portal, you have to find one of the other two strongholds?
#970 [19:02] <Dorfl> I probably first need to worry about the fortress thing, then about strongholds, and only then about the portals.
#971 [19:02] <[L]> Hm?
#972 [19:02] <[L]> Whats up?
#973 [19:04] <oldtopman> ALL HAIL [L]!
#974 [19:04] <[L]> :l
#975 [19:04] <oldtopman> Dorfl: Right.
#976 [19:04] <oldtopman> RAAAH!
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#980 [19:35] <NinjaKirby> oldtopman: Intredasting, a ravine could obliterate a stronghold? Thought priorities would be configured to preserve the blocks.
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#983 [19:37] <OniNoSeishin> hi
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#985 [20:04] <oldtopman> NinjaKirby: It's on the wiki.
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#996 [21:09] <PurpleLama> Hi
#997 [21:09] <PurpleLama> Is there anyone who could help me?
#998 [21:10] <PurpleLama> Ok, i'm going to pretend like you guys aren't weird, haha. How do i delete files from my plugin file?
#999 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Plugin file?
#1000 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Are you talking about removing plugins from a bukkit server?
#1001 [21:11] <PurpleLama> For my server.
#1002 [21:11] <PurpleLama> Yes.
#1003 [21:11] <PurpleLama> I installed world guard, but for some reason i cant type anything in-game. I need something called MySQL but have no idea how to work it!
#1004 [21:12] <PurpleLama> So, do you know how i delete plugins?
#1005 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> Go to the server's plugins folder and remove it?
#1006 [21:13] <PurpleLama> Ehm, i do. I restart. And it is still there:P
#1007 [21:13] <GreyVulpine> That.. shouldn't happen. Are you removing the plugin when the server is not running?
#1008 [21:13] <PurpleLama> I click on the plugin, and change "Archive" to "Remove". But it wont go!:/
#1009 [21:14] <PurpleLama> Yes the server's running when i remove it but i do restart the server.
#1010 [21:14] <zkxs> what does /plugins tell you?
#1011 [21:14] <PurpleLama> What? Wait haha, what's /plugins?
#1012 [21:14] <zkxs> a command
#1013 [21:14] <PurpleLama> Hmm.
#1014 [21:15] <PurpleLama> In-game? Or in the files.
#1015 [21:15] <zkxs> in game, or in the console
#1016 [21:15] <PurpleLama> Oh
#1017 [21:15] <PurpleLama> It says i have 21 plugins installed
#1018 [21:15] <zkxs> and what are they?
#1019 [21:16] <PurpleLama> Well, tbh, all of them are green, then there's one, "Hawkeye" which is red
#1020 [21:16] <PurpleLama> does that mean anything..?
#1021 [21:16] <zkxs> idk. Are worldguard or vanish in the list?
#1022 [21:17] <PurpleLama> Vanish is
#1023 [21:17] <zkxs> there is your problem
#1024 [21:17] <zkxs> join your server and type /v
#1025 [21:17] <PurpleLama> Ahh!
#1026 [21:17] <PurpleLama> and i'm vanished!
#1027 [21:17] <zkxs> that is what happens when you use the * permission nodes
#1028 [21:18] <PurpleLama> you just saved my life..
#1029 [21:18] <PurpleLama> haha!
#1030 [21:18] <zkxs> you end up with permissions that you might not want, like vanish.silentjoin
#1031 [21:18] <PurpleLama> Well thanks man i really appreciate that im sucha noob. Wouldn't of been able to figure it out with out u haha! Thanks
#1032 [21:18] <PurpleLama> byebye and i will
#1033 [21:18] <zkxs> you can put worldguard back, it was never the problem
#1034 [21:18] <PurpleLama> Ok
#1035 [21:19] <PurpleLama> thanks again
#1036 [21:19] <PurpleLama> byebye
#1037 [21:19] <zkxs> NOOB
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#1039 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> >.>
#1040 [21:20] <zkxs> :P that is what he gets for not reading the manual and misspelling the name of the majestic llama
#1041 [21:20] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1041 [21:21] <zkxs> I have vanish on my server, and the manual clear explains the issue he was having.
#1042 [21:21] <zkxs> *clearly
#1043 [21:21] <GreyVulpine> Ah. Noted.
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#1046 [21:37] <PurpleLama> Hey
#1047 [21:37] <PurpleLama> Im back!
#1048 [21:37] <PurpleLama> Do any of you know what orebfuscator is?
#1049 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Yes, prevents people from using an xray mod to see through the ground, looking for ore that they wouldn't be able to see otherwise
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#1053 [22:01] <Mobz> Hello, I bought a Minecraft Gift Key over a week ago and havn't recieved any emails about it and it hasnt been added to my account.
#1054 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> From where did you purchase the gift key from?
#1055 [22:05] <Mobz> Minecraft.net
#1056 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Did you get any emails confirming payment?
#1057 [22:07] <Mobz> No, but according to my credit card, the amount was withdrawn
#1058 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Check your profile page at minecraft.net? Gift codes that were purchased successfully would show up there
#1059 [22:09] <Mobz> negative
#1060 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> Mojang say that if you log in to your account on minecraft.net, and click on Profile in the top bar, your gift code will be listed there.
#1061 [22:09] <Mobz> it didnt get added
#1062 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> If not, there was something wrong with the purchase
#1063 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> They also say to fill in a form to Mojang if there are any further problems. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329762-i-paid-for-a-gift-code-but-haven%E2%80%99t-received-it-
#1064 [22:09] <Mobz> I doubt it. I'll double check. but.
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#1067 [22:13] <Mobz> I had submitted a ticket but i didnt recieve any responce
#1068 [22:14] <GreyVulpine> It can take some time for Mojang to get back to people
#1069 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> It can take several days for your ticket to be processed.
#1070 [22:14] <Mobz> I submitted it last week thursday
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#1072 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't work on the weekends as well.
#1073 [22:15] <Mobz> I can understand that. But do you know when I should be expecting a responce on this?
#1074 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> The easter holiday means that monday and friday are out of action too, locally for me at least
#1075 [22:15] <GreyVulpine> We have no reported ETA on responses from Mojang. Nobody ever gets back to us on it
#1076 [22:16] <Mobz> same for me.
#1077 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1078 [22:17] <GreyVulpine> I've had people tell us that they've waited more than a month without a response.
#1079 [22:17] <Mobz> thats quite a long time.
#1080 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> "As of March 23, 2012 we are working on emails from February 9, 2012"
#1081 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> It could be some time.
#1082 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> There is further information about it at that link from before.
#1083 [22:20] <Mobz> I know they hired more support staff but I guess not enough
#1084 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Backlogs can take a while to catch up with, but they will.
#1085 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> There was basically no support staff before the start of this year..
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#1089 [22:26] <Mobz> Well, I guess all I can do is wait
#1090 [22:26] <Mobz> Thank you for your help!
#1091 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> Thanks for your patience :)
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#1093 [22:35] <SlackerD> hi guys
#1094 [22:35] <SlackerD> I'm having problems running Minecraft
#1095 [22:35] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate??
#1096 [22:35] <SlackerD> The graphics in-game are flickering when I play it
#1097 [22:35] <SlackerD> severely
#1098 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Flickering? Happen to have a screenshot or something?
#1099 [22:36] <SlackerD> no
#1100 [22:36] <SlackerD> I'll get one
#1101 [22:42] <SlackerD> http://imgur.com/cKJjj
#1102 [22:42] <sicknuke> Poor graphics card
#1103 [22:42] <SlackerD> ?
#1104 [22:43] <SlackerD> it's a NVIDIA 7600GS card
#1105 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Does it do this on a vanilla texture pack?
#1106 [22:43] <SlackerD> I'll check
#1107 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> Is that a map that was obtained from somewhere?
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#1109 [22:48] <SlackerD> http://imgur.com/2Vyjs
#1110 [22:48] <SlackerD> yes
#1111 [22:48] <SlackerD> MinecraftForum.net
#1112 [22:48] <SlackerD> Kingdom of the Sky map
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#1114 [22:50] <SlackerD> that is with the standard texture pack, btw
#1115 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Huh, strange. Is there something in that specific spot that's causing this?
#1116 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> Okay, I'll download the map and check it out with the texture pack they provide too
#1117 [22:50] <SlackerD> not sure
#1118 [22:50] <SlackerD> it happens after I hit a switch there
#1119 [22:50] <SlackerD> thanks!
#1120 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> Can you press F3 and proivde us with the coords for that spot?
#1121 [22:51] <|Kiikun|> sshift+f3 just gives you text, no graphs
#1122 [22:51] <SlackerD> sure
#1123 [22:53] <SlackerD> http://imgur.com/g8Uap
#1124 [22:53] <SlackerD> there you go
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#1126 [22:56] * |Kiikun| hates rebooting... always messes up his desktop icons :/
#1126 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Kingdom of the Sky seems to be from a much older version of Minecraft. When loading it up, it has to convert it to Anvil.
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#1130 [23:00] <SlackerD> indeed
#1131 [23:00] <|Kiikun|> 'much older' is 1.1 :P
#1132 [23:02] <clarjon1> heh, i wonder if 1.1 can convert 'original' maps ( the map format before the last one )
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#1134 [23:04] <Sakura_Solo> Hey all.
#1135 [23:04] <|Kiikun|> it seems to be made for 1.8.1 (if im reading the version in the videos right)
#1136 [23:04] <Sakura_Solo> Okay, so, I have a Minecraft server running at 66.169.61.237:1234. Everyone can log into this server easily except for ONE of my friends. Obviously something is wrong on her end.
#1137 [23:05] <Sakura_Solo> So, any idea what she can do? Minecraft is added to her firewall exceptions and everything.
#1138 [23:05] <|Kiikun|> !check 66.169.61.237:1234
#1139 [23:05] <|Kiikun|> they putting in the server info right?
#1140 [23:05] <Sakura_Solo> Yup./
#1141 [23:06] <|Kiikun|> have them see if they can connect to mc.minecraftirc.net
#1142 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> SlackerD: I'm loaded up and am making my way to that location
#1143 [23:06] <SlackerD> cool\
#1144 [23:06] <SlackerD> that may take a while
#1145 [23:08] <Sakura_Solo> Mmkay, I gave her the link.
#1146 [23:08] <|Kiikun|> Sakura_Solo: also, do they happen to be on some sort of school or corprate network? those like to add layers of blocking so things like minecraft wont work.
#1147 [23:09] <Sakura_Solo> I'll ask.
#1148 [23:09] <Sakura_Solo> She's on a simple home network.
#1149 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> What error does she get upon trying to connect to the server?
#1150 [23:12] <Sakura_Solo> She's logged in, and when she tries to connect to my server, she gets either a timed out or server could not be reached error.
#1151 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Has she ever been able to connect before?
#1152 [23:14] <Sakura_Solo> Not to my server. She can also connect to world.woodenaxe.com fine.
#1153 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Are you running the latest version of the server?
#1154 [23:15] <Sakura_Solo> Yup.
#1155 [23:15] <|Kiikun|> and she's updated her game?
#1156 [23:16] <Sakura_Solo> My boyfriend connected fine just a bit ago, and she's only bought the game since the last update.
#1157 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> Nothing on your end that may be blocking her from connecting?
#1158 [23:16] <Sakura_Solo> Not to my knowledge. Its never blocked anyone else before.
#1159 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Perhaps try moving her player profile out from the /world/players/ directory? Sometimes a profile can get corrupted, preventing a player from connecting right.\
#1160 [23:17] * |Kiikun| was just thinking that too :P
#1160 [23:17] <Eddie> boyfriend? she?
#1161 [23:17] * Eddie dies...
#1161 [23:17] <Sakura_Solo> I was making two different statements, sorry.
#1162 [23:18] <Sakura_Solo> My boyfriend connected fine. My friend whose having connection issues bought the game since the last update.
#1163 [23:18] <Sakura_Solo> And there's no player file to delete.
#1164 [23:18] <Sakura_Solo> As she's been unable to connect
#1165 [23:19] <|Kiikun|> Ed Dies?
#1166 [23:19] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1167 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, Do you know if she's using any sort of modded client, or third party launchers?
#1168 [23:21] <Sakura_Solo> She's just using plain old Vanilla Minecraft.
#1169 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Does your server console log her connection attempts?
#1170 [23:21] <Sakura_Solo> Nope
#1171 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> have her retry your server, makign sure she types 66.169.61.237:1234 exactly. i have a feeling she typoed it somewhere.
#1172 [23:24] <Sakura_Solo> She has. Several times.
#1173 [23:25] * |Kiikun| blinks
#1173 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> i just tried pinging you and got 'no reply'...
#1174 [23:26] <Sakura_Solo> Her router is an ATT 2Wire, and she says she's had to port forward just to connect to some games, not host.
#1175 [23:26] <|Kiikun|> ... x.x i must be cursed to log into water on servers or something
#1176 [23:27] <|Kiikun|> that... sounds wrong
#1177 [23:27] <|Kiikun|> btw. that was me that just logged in and disconnected
#1178 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> I've dealt with some 2wire routers, shouldn't need to port forward to connect to most games
#1179 [23:27] <Sakura_Solo> I figured.
#1180 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Wondering if she perhaps has some entry that's making MC packets go off into oblivion
#1181 [23:28] <Sakura_Solo> Possibly.
#1182 [23:29] <|Kiikun|> but.. she can connect to OTHER servers.... which is whats confusing :/
#1183 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> But Sakura_Solo's server runs off of port 1234?
#1184 [23:29] <Sakura_Solo> One thing must be noted: The other servers she's connected to didn't have a port specific.
#1185 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> which means she usually connects to default 25565
#1186 [23:30] <Sakura_Solo> And yes, my port is 1234. For some reason the default port refuses to work.
#1187 [23:30] <GreyVulpine> Anyway you can switch it back to default 25565, just to test?
#1188 [23:31] <Sakura_Solo> I can't. Every time I've tried, my router says that port is busy, but it won't say with what. It has ever since I updated the firmware. Its a Netgear.
#1189 [23:31] <GreyVulpine> Or perhaps a different port other than 1234?
#1190 [23:32] <|Kiikun|> 25566 is a popular alternate port :P
#1191 [23:32] <Sakura_Solo> I could try, but not tonight, she's fixing to go to bed it seems.
#1192 [23:36] <Sakura_Solo> I think I'll do the same. Thanks for your help. Night all, God Bless. n.n
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