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#8 [01:14] <Hydraa> Excuse me , But when i try playing minecraft to join my friends server i get a message saying "Doownloading Terrain" then it says "Connection lost" and its doing the same for him. Is there any way to fix this?
#9 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Server updated?
#10 [01:16] <Hydraa> Yes
#11 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> What version is the server running?
#12 [01:18] <Hydraa> The server owner says everything is up to date
#13 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Then is he running some sort of modded server that requires files be downloaded and installed onto the client?
#14 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Does he get any error logs with connections to the server console, that he might share with us?
#15 [01:23] <Hydraa> Oh never mind the server is up now , but thanks for the help . Im going to think about coming here for future problems
#16 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> What was the issue?
#17 [01:23] <Hydraa> it was just our connection because its raining really hard out here and there are thunderstorms
#18 [01:24] * GreyVulpine nods
#18 [01:24] * GreyVulpine nods
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#42 [04:09] <Olfway> hello?
#43 [04:10] <Olfway> I'm having problems with both the browser version and the downloadable jar
#44 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> What problems would that be?
#45 [04:11] <Olfway> http://pastebin.com/SV82qh29
#46 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Looks like video drivers aren't up to date on that *nix install
#47 [04:13] <Olfway> ah
#48 [04:13] <Olfway> well, I'll update and if the problem continues, I'll return :)
#49 [04:14] * GreyVulpine nods
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#59 [05:51] <binui> hi i got a question how i can check if i did intall mod proppetly?
#60 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft doesn't crash, and the mod works?
#61 [05:55] <binui> no crash
#62 [05:56] <binui> i just installed modloader but is there should be any changes to see in menu or somewhere?
#63 [05:56] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#64 [05:57] <binui> ok so i need to try installing another mod?
#65 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#66 [05:57] <GreyVulpine> You can also look at modloader.txt (in .minecraft/) to verify that no errors cropped up
#67 [05:57] <binui> ok can u give me a sec?
#68 [05:58] <binui> ok no errors
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#70 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> Then you should be all set to install whatever mod requires modloader
#71 [06:00] <binui> i will try shelf from Risugami
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#73 [06:01] <binui> ok i did put shelf mod in mods directory but itlooks like it dosent work
#74 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> Did you put the .zip file into .minecraft/mods/?
#75 [06:02] <binui> yes
#76 [06:02] <GreyVulpine> And what does modloader.txt say?
#77 [06:03] <binui> 2012-04-13 10:42:55 ModLoader init FINE: ModLoader 1.2.5 Initializing... 2012-04-13 10:42:55 ModLoader readFromClassPath FINER: Adding mods from C:\Users\Ruda i Bieniu\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar 2012-04-13 10:42:55 ModLoader readFromClassPath FINER: Zip found. 2012-04-13 10:42:55 ModLoader readFromModFolder FINER: Adding mods from C:\Users\Ruda i Bieniu\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\mods\1.2.4 2012-04-13
#78 [06:03] <binui> ops sorry
#79 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> There shouldn't be a 1.2.4 folder in .minecraft\mods\
#80 [06:04] <GreyVulpine> You should be placing the shelf.zip directly into .minecraft\mods\
#81 [06:04] <binui> maybe i will try deleting it
#82 [06:07] <binui> ok still nothing
#83 [06:07] <binui> i will try from the beggining
#84 [06:09] <binui> should i have 3 minecraft.jar's? (minecraft.jar, minecraft-1.2.4.jar and minecarft-1.2.5.jar)
#85 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> Those would be backups. You should only need minecraft.jar
#86 [06:10] <GreyVulpine> If you have 1.2.4 mods in your minecraft/mods/ folder, it would cause problems
#87 [06:10] <binui> ok it worked out
#88 [06:10] <binui> no its my first time trying using mods
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#90 [06:11] <binui> ok shelfs are working thank you for help
#91 [06:12] * GreyVulpine tips hat
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#93 [06:17] <binui> cya and thanks again
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#95 [06:18] <dudemanjam> how do i find the server ip and let my m8s goin
#96 [06:18] <dudemanjam> how do i find the server ip and let my m8s goin
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#101 [06:24] <dudemanjam> How do i find server ip and let my m8s join and do i need portforward?
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#103 [06:25] <Isamun> Update stuck at 7% "lwjgl.jar". Any ideas?
#104 [06:27] <Keltinray> restart MineCraft?
#105 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Isamun - What AV do you run?
#106 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> AVG's been known to do this
#107 [06:27] <dudemanjam> How do i find server ip and let my m8s join and do i need portforward?
#108 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> dudemanjam - Yes to port forward, and you can get your public ip by going to ipchicken.com, or whatismyip.com
#109 [06:27] <Isamun> Tried that. Got fatal error (4) connection rest
#110 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> Isamun - What AV do you run?
#111 [06:28] <dudemanjam> i have tried can you do it online and how do you do it without installing anything
#112 [06:28] <Isamun> Running AVG free version
#113 [06:28] <GreyVulpine> dudemanjam - If you download teamviewer, I can set it up for you. Teamviewer will allow me to remote into your machine
#114 [06:29] <GreyVulpine> Isamun - Go into AVG's options, turn off the "linkscanner" module. Then try minecraft again
#115 [06:29] <Isamun> Ty
#116 [06:30] <Isamun> Success. Thanks a lot
#117 [06:31] * GreyVulpine nods
#117 [06:31] <dudemanjam> hey grey i dont have teamviewer is there an online version
#118 [06:31] <GreyVulpine> www.teamviewer.com
#119 [06:31] <dudemanjam> i cant download its my uncles computer
#120 [06:32] <dudemanjam> is there one you dont have to install
#121 [06:32] <GreyVulpine> You can download and run teamviewer directly from the install file, without going through the installation process
#122 [06:32] <dudemanjam> there is a browser based one
#123 [06:32] <dudemanjam> its says
#124 [06:35] <dudemanjam> add me on teamviewr online
#125 [06:36] <dudemanjam> whats your teamviewer name and pass for quick connection
#126 [06:38] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, there is no way of doing a support session without downloading the teamviewer application
#127 [06:38] <dudemanjam> ok iil try
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#129 [06:39] <dudemanjam> ok done that
#130 [06:39] <Isamun> If i cant reach the preconfigured servers, its probably AVG messing it up?
#131 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> Isamun - There are no preconfigured servers with minecraft
#132 [06:40] <dudemanjam> my id is 301 866 254 and pass is 2969
#133 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> The server list is there for you to populate with your favorite servers. There's no central server list
#134 [06:40] <Isamun> Azder.servergame.com?
#135 [06:40] <GreyVulpine> The default minecraft client has no preconfigured server list
#136 [06:41] <dudemanjam> my id is 301 866 254 and pass is 2969 and thats for teamveiwer
#137 [06:41] <Isamun> Ok. My mate is trying to set one up. Should i connect with a server addresss of his local IP?
#138 [06:41] <Isamun> we're connected by a swithc
#139 [06:41] <GreyVulpine> Only if you're on the same LAN
#140 [06:41] <Isamun> ok
#141 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> Alright dudemanjam, show me what you have
#142 [06:42] <GreyVulpine> dudemanjam?
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#144 [06:43] <GreyVulpine> Hello? dudemanjam, you there?
#145 [06:44] <GreyVulpine> Hello?
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#147 [06:45] <Isamun> We got i working =D yey
#148 [06:45] * GreyVulpine nods
#148 [06:45] <dudemanjam> yes im back
#149 [06:45] <GreyVulpine> Ah, well, show me what you have done so far dudemanjam
#150 [06:46] <qwerty> hello, i have a problem minecraft server on centos. i started server with this command: screen sh minecraft.sh . Now i want to stop server but i cant do it :)
#151 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Okay, so I see a bukkit server with MCmyadmin..
#152 [06:46] <qwerty> how can i stop minecraft
#153 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> qwerty - man screen
#154 [06:46] <dudemanjam> this is the bit i get stuck on the portforwarding
#155 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> dudemanjam - Alright, will take control of your mouse, one moment
#156 [06:46] <dudemanjam> kk
#157 [06:47] <qwerty> can you tell me the command, i dont know how can i use this
#158 [06:49] <qwerty> any idea?
#159 [06:50] <dudemanjam> you there
#160 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'm here
#161 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Trying to get that port forwarding rule to enter in
#162 [06:51] <qwerty> greyvulpine can you help me pls
#163 [06:51] <dudemanjam> i dont really understand that stuff lol thats why i came here
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#165 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> qwerty - do screen -list
#166 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> qwerty - What do you see there?
#167 [06:53] <qwerty> there are 2 screen
#168 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> And what are they?
#169 [06:54] <qwerty> 14149.pts-0.host (Detached) 18058.pts-2.host (Detached)
#170 [06:54] <dudemanjam> brb work away
#171 [06:54] <GreyVulpine> You can go and use "screen -r" to reattach them
#172 [06:55] <GreyVulpine> For example: screen -r 14149.pts-0.host
#173 [06:55] <qwerty> first of all. i deleted minecraft bukkit files like worlds etc. i wantted to re-install it.
#174 [06:55] <qwerty> but i'm failed :)
#175 [06:57] <qwerty> yeap. i wrote "screen sh minecraft.sh" after your command and it works fine i think :)
#176 [06:59] <qwerty> thank you very much greyvulpine
#177 [07:00] <dudemanjam> iits ok if you cant do it !
#178 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> I'm fairly sure I'm doing it right, the router just isn't accepting the values for some reason
#179 [07:01] <dudemanjam> its ok
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#182 [07:02] <RATHER3OOO> hello
#183 [07:04] <dudemanjam> its ok bye
#184 [07:04] <dudemanjam> its ok bye
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#193 [07:56] <Aster> Do you guys help with mods? :3
#194 [08:05] <DiskDaemon> #risucraft provides lots of modding help
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#197 [08:51] <Avaruusnuija> Okay. So I've installed Java again and again. And still Minecraft won't work.
#198 [08:51] <Avaruusnuija> But.
#199 [08:52] <Avaruusnuija> I tried PIRATED version.
#200 [08:52] <Avaruusnuija> It works.
#201 [08:52] <Avaruusnuija> Without a problem.
#202 [08:52] <Avaruusnuija> :l
#203 [08:52] <Avaruusnuija> And the purchased one doesn't work.
#204 [08:54] <Avaruusnuija> Though, the pirated version was some earlier build.
#205 [08:54] <Avaruusnuija> So does the newest one just demand too much from my computer or why in the hell it lags my whole computer and Java works perfectly, and pirated MC too?
#206 [08:56] <Calinou> Avaruusnuija, try deleting your .minecraft folder (back up the saves/ folder inside though)
#207 [08:57] <Avaruusnuija> Tried that hundred of times.
#208 [08:57] <Calinou> what OS are you using? java version?
#209 [08:57] <Calinou> if you're on a 64 bit OS you must use 64 bit java.
#210 [08:57] <Avaruusnuija> Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit, Java is the newest and 64 bit.
#211 [08:58] <DiskDaemon> what sort of lag are we talking about? less than 60 frames per sec or averaging at around 20?
#212 [08:58] <Calinou> don't use java 7
#213 [08:59] <Calinou> Avaruusnuija, try using the .jar version of the official launcher, a bit involved but it might work.
#214 [08:59] <Avaruusnuija> DiskDaemon: That kind of lag that the Minecraft.exe shows just a black screen.
#215 [08:59] <Avaruusnuija> Javaw.exe hogging all the memory and CPU usage.
#216 [08:59] <Calinou> > go in control panel, "folder options", some tab with a lot of checkboxes, then uncheck "Hide known extension types"
#217 [08:59] <Avaruusnuija> Calinou: Yea, not using that. And tried .jar too.
#218 [08:59] <Calinou> started the .jar properly?
#219 [09:00] <Avaruusnuija> Yes, but same thing, javaw.exe starts hogging all the memory.
#220 [09:00] <Calinou> the .jar version should provide some debug information
#221 [09:00] <Calinou> that's why it is useful
#222 [09:02] <Avaruusnuija> It gives nothing.
#223 [09:02] <Calinou> then you didn't start it properly.
#224 [09:02] <Calinou> > download it here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#225 [09:03] <Calinou> > put on desktop, create a new text file on desktop, containing those 3 lines: http://pastebin.com/NnFcurH3
#226 [09:03] <Calinou> > save the file, change its extension to .bat instead of .txt
#227 [09:03] <Calinou> > run. then, try to log in until you black screen then give us the output here: http://pastebin.com
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#229 [09:09] <Avaruusnuija> http://pastebin.com/R3vFC7Sv
#230 [09:11] <Calinou> "lastlogin (The system cannot find the file specified)". hmm
#231 [09:11] <Calinou> does the launcher itself work? try deleting the bin folder
#232 [09:11] <Calinou> then use the jar launcher to log in
#233 [09:12] <Avaruusnuija> When I try with the launcher, it just opens up the Minecraft screen at it's all black. And then the computer starts lagging.
#234 [09:12] <Avaruusnuija> And there's not a bin folder to delete.
#235 [09:12] <Avaruusnuija> It just creates .minecraft folder.
#236 [09:12] <Avaruusnuija> Nothing else.
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#238 [09:14] <zucchini> hey i got a problem with starting multiplayerservers anyone can help?
#239 [09:15] <clarjon1> zucchini: we won't know until you tell us the full problem :)
#240 [09:17] <zucchini> When i try to log in it stuck on downloading terrain or sonetimes i can log in. a few sec later it crashed and i get info " internal exception: java....
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#242 [09:18] <zucchini> "java.net.socketTimeoutException:read time out"
#243 [09:18] <zucchini> it's the full info
#244 [09:20] <zucchini> you know this bug?
#245 [09:20] <clarjon1> hm
#246 [09:21] <clarjon1> same thing appears tobe happening on my community's server.
#247 [09:21] <zucchini> now im on server
#248 [09:21] <clarjon1> yea
#249 [09:21] <zucchini> but i dont know how long
#250 [09:22] <zucchini> now came this java.net.socketTimeoutException:read time out
#251 [09:22] <clarjon1> zucchini: hm.
#252 [09:22] <clarjon1> Very odd
#253 [09:22] <zucchini> ya
#254 [09:22] <clarjon1> does this happen with one server, or all servers?
#255 [09:22] <zucchini> got only one
#256 [09:22] <clarjon1> ah
#257 [09:22] <clarjon1> can you try to connect to this server: dreamcraft.org
#258 [09:23] <clarjon1> just for testing
#259 [09:23] <zucchini> ok wait
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#261 [09:23] <zucchini> same
#262 [09:23] <clarjon1> are you reisination?
#263 [09:24] <zucchini> ya
#264 [09:24] <clarjon1> odd, it showed you as connecting, then you disconnected...
#265 [09:24] <zucchini> on server you can see me but i cant connect
#266 [09:24] <zucchini> ya i know
#267 [09:24] <clarjon1> When did this first start?
#268 [09:25] <clarjon1> ah, i gotta go, time for work
#269 [09:25] <clarjon1> ah, i gotta go, time for work
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#271 [09:31] <Avaruusnuija> Calinou
#272 [09:31] <Avaruusnuija> Or someone.
#273 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> yes
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#275 [09:32] <Calinou> Avaruusnuija, run the .bat as administrator maybe
#276 [09:32] <Avaruusnuija> Okay.
#277 [09:33] <Avaruusnuija> It doesn't let me.
#278 [09:33] <Avaruusnuija> It's grayed out.
#279 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> It may be late for me, but I was wondering if you were aware that Minecraft requires two completely different minecraft.jar files that perform different duties
#280 [09:33] <Avaruusnuija> Nope.
#281 [09:34] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: care to take the reins?
#282 [09:34] <Calinou> "<Avaruusnuija> It's grayed out."
#283 [09:34] <Calinou> is your windows account administrator?
#284 [09:34] <Avaruusnuija> Yap.
#285 [09:34] <Calinou> if you plan on installing stuff... usually you need administrator access.
#286 [09:35] <Avaruusnuija> Never had that option grayed out.
#287 [09:35] <Avaruusnuija> But now it is. :s
#288 [09:35] <Avaruusnuija> Ah, now it isn't.
#289 [09:35] <Avaruusnuija> Interesting. :D
#290 [09:36] <Avaruusnuija> Calinou: Seemed to give the same info.
#291 [09:48] <Calinou> :/ dunno why then
#292 [09:51] <Avaruusnuija> :(
#293 [09:51] <Avaruusnuija> Just my luck.
#294 [09:51] <Avaruusnuija> When I decide to finally purchase it, it stops working.
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#296 [09:53] <DiskDaemon> Avaruusnuija: Can you log in to your account at minecraft.net
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#298 [09:58] <Avaruusnuija> Yes.
#299 [09:59] <DiskDaemon> Okay, does it work when you try playing the browser version of the game?
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#301 [10:01] <Avaruusnuija> Missing plugin.
#302 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> Okay, try fixing that up.
#303 [10:02] <Avaruusnuija> Okay.
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#305 [10:09] <Avaruusnuija> What the heck do I have to install?
#306 [10:10] <Avaruusnuija> I use Opera.
#307 [10:10] <Avaruusnuija> I have Java, I have Flash, I have Shockwave.
#308 [10:10] <Avaruusnuija> :l
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#311 [10:12] <DiskDaemon> I can't help with that part of things, but the downloaded version of the game uses the same code as the browser one, so once you get the browser one working, the downloaded one should then be ready to work too.
#312 [10:12] * DiskDaemon sleeps
#312 [10:20] <Avaruusnuija> Okay.
#313 [10:35] <Avaruusnuija> Whatthefffff
#314 [10:35] <Avaruusnuija> I've installed all the possible plugins.
#315 [10:35] <Avaruusnuija> "Missing plugin."
#316 [10:35] <Avaruusnuija> SGMKIDJDIKD
#317 [10:35] <Avaruusnuija> Also, that was superlame.
#318 [10:36] <Wug> dont spam and the bot wont stop you
#319 [10:36] <Avaruusnuija> Yeah, I'm a horrible spammer. :( Sorry.
#320 [10:47] <Avaruusnuija> Blah,
#321 [10:47] <Avaruusnuija> What's left to do? Reinstalled java many times, "reinstalled Minecraft", erased all the folders, tried many plugins to get even the browser version working.
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#323 [10:48] <Avaruusnuija> Or will I just have to accept that I won't be playing it ever? :D
#324 [10:48] <Wug> cant you just play it offline
#325 [10:48] <Wug> or use a different browser
#326 [10:48] <Wug> :client
#327 [10:48] <WugBot> client: You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
#328 [10:52] <Avaruusnuija> Not interested in different browsers since I don't even want to play it in a browser. And offline? Maybe. But the problem is that I get nothing else but a black window when I start MC.
#329 [10:53] <Wug> thought your issue was a missing plugin
#330 [10:53] <Wug> its probably a mod issue
#331 [10:53] <Wug> :fu > Avaruusnuija
#332 [10:53] <WugBot> Avaruusnuija: (fu) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#333 [10:53] <WugBot> Avaruusnuija: (fu) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#335 [11:01] <Avaruusnuija> Mods? Nope. Don't have any. I can't click options.
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#337 [11:01] <Avaruusnuija> As I said I only get a black window.
#338 [11:01] <Avaruusnuija> Nothing to click there.
#339 [11:02] <Avaruusnuija> .minecraft folder is empty. If I delete it, it creates another empty folder.
#340 [11:03] <Avaruusnuija> Maybe I'll install it to some friend's computer and take all the folders and files and throw them there.
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#342 [11:05] <Wug> get teamviewer and I'll look at it
#343 [11:05] <Wug> :tv
#344 [11:05] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#345 [11:05] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
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#347 [11:26] <Avaruusnuija> Wug: Okay, I downloaded it.
#348 [11:26] <Wug> follow the rest of the instructions
#349 [11:26] <Wug> the bit about sending me stuff
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#354 [11:30] <Kurtiz> !paid thomasdavid097
#355 [11:31] <RedefinedClank> !paid clank714
#356 [11:31] <RedefinedClank> IT IS LYING
#357 [11:31] <RedefinedClank>
#358 [11:37] <clarjon1> !paid clarjon1
#359 [11:37] <clarjon1> hm
#360 [11:38] <clarjon1> oh, the site is down
#361 [11:38] <clarjon1> that'll do it.
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#365 [11:47] <Wug> minecraft.net is currently borked
#366 [11:48] <Wug> in some places
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#368 [11:50] <Dan> Wug, what browser are you using?
#369 [11:51] <Wug> Dan: someone I teamviewered was getting 500's when they tried to view it
#370 [11:56] <Dan> i dont get that
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#374 [12:03] <meee> #aethermod
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#377 [12:05] <Sad_programmer> Hello!
#378 [12:06] <Sad_programmer> I've got a serious problem :c
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#380 [12:06] <Sad_programmer> help?
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#382 [12:07] <Sad_programmer> After I start vanilla minecraft on linux 11.04 it just black screens withouth any mods D:
#383 [12:07] <dvsxutact> hey guys, i was wondering if there is anyway of extending / adding more area to a world, without destroying anything currently on the map?
#384 [12:07] <Sad_programmer> explore it
#385 [12:07] <Sad_programmer> :)
#386 [12:08] <Sad_programmer> any1 wanna help moi? D:
#387 [12:08] <Dan> Sad_programmer, did you close out the termeral?
#388 [12:08] <Sad_programmer> no terminal open.
#389 [12:08] <Sad_programmer> I just selected minecraft.jar to start with oracle java 7
#390 [12:09] <Sad_programmer> everything worked out intil
#391 [12:09] <Sad_programmer> *until
#392 [12:09] <Sad_programmer> I press login, then minecraft starts, but no mojang logo, just black screen
#393 [12:09] <Sad_programmer> Vanilla.
#394 [12:10] <Dan> server or client?
#395 [12:10] <Sad_programmer> client
#396 [12:10] <Dan> ubuntu 11.04 right?
#397 [12:10] <Sad_programmer> yup
#398 [12:11] <Sad_programmer> I apt-get update and installed them, but that didnt solve it :(
#399 [12:11] <Sad_programmer> It worked out fine just yesterday
#400 [12:11] <Dan> did you install openjdk-6-jre or did you do install oracle java
#401 [12:11] <Sad_programmer> I tried with both
#402 [12:12] <Sad_programmer> oracle java ver 7
#403 [12:12] <Dan> do you have both installed right now?
#404 [12:12] <Sad_programmer> first only java 7 oracle, but after that didnt work i tested openJDK
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#406 [12:12] <Sad_programmer> btw
#407 [12:12] <Sad_programmer> jeb_ took back LWJGL 2.8.3
#408 [12:13] <Sad_programmer> as standard
#409 [12:13] <Sad_programmer> maybe something messed up?
#410 [12:13] <Dan> http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp see what java is current right now
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#412 [12:13] <Sad_programmer> as i expected i have the reccomended 1.7.0_03
#413 [12:14] <Dan> that is openjdk
#414 [12:14] <Sad_programmer> no?
#415 [12:14] <Dan> yes
#416 [12:14] <Sad_programmer> :S
#417 [12:14] <Sad_programmer> wait, ill uninstall JDK
#418 [12:14] <Sad_programmer> stand by
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#420 [12:15] <Sad_programmer> btw just typing java -version in terminal shows the current ver :)
#421 [12:16] <Sad_programmer> you sure i have the wrong version?
#422 [12:16] <Sad_programmer> 1.7.0_03
#423 [12:16] <Dan> nvm do you have the term open?
#424 [12:17] <Sad_programmer> yeah
#425 [12:17] <Dan> cd to the folder where your minecraft.jar is at and try java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame in your term
#426 [12:17] <Sad_programmer> ok
#427 [12:17] <Dan> well java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#428 [12:18] <Sad_programmer> that opened the launcher
#429 [12:19] <Sad_programmer> but the game still wont work D:
#430 [12:19] <Dan> did you login?
#431 [12:19] <Sad_programmer> It just black-screens after i login
#432 [12:19] <Sad_programmer> yeah
#433 [12:19] <Sad_programmer> I tried force-updating too
#434 [12:19] <Sad_programmer> D:
#435 [12:19] <Dan> hum
#436 [12:19] <Sad_programmer> I know, its supah wierd
#437 [12:19] <Dan> yea
#438 [12:20] <Sad_programmer> It could have something with jeb_ regret having 2.8.3 as standard LWJGL
#439 [12:22] <Sad_programmer> I am so sad and lonely D:
#440 [12:22] <Sad_programmer> >.<
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#442 [12:23] <Sad_programmer> It could have something with jeb_ regret having 2.8.3 as standard LWJGL, and then messing something up after changing it back to the old default?
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#445 [12:26] <Sad_programmer> ...
#446 [12:28] <Morrolan> Grab the .jar launcher and start it through the console/command prompt, so we get an error to work with.
#447 [12:29] <Sad_programmer> ok
#448 [12:29] <Sad_programmer> ok the error:
#449 [12:29] <Morrolan> Wait.
#450 [12:30] <Morrolan> Use www.pastebin.com
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#452 [12:30] <Sad_programmer> ok
#453 [12:30] <Morrolan> Also, you're on Java 1.7? You might want to use Java 1.6, 1.7 is known to cause issues.
#454 [12:30] <Sad_programmer> it worked jsut fine yesterday
#455 [12:30] <Morrolan> Heh, strange.
#456 [12:30] <oldtopman> Sad_programmer: Did you try a force update?
#457 [12:30] <Sad_programmer> and for 2 months before that >.<
#458 [12:30] <Sad_programmer> yes
#459 [12:30] <oldtopman> Just checking the stupid stuff.
#460 [12:31] <Dan> yea Java is saying to use 1.6 cause 1.7 is not ready for end user only dev
#461 [12:31] <Sad_programmer> Ouch, forgot I can't paste from terminal >.<
#462 [12:31] <Calinou> Sad_programmer, you can select everything in cmd
#463 [12:31] <Morrolan> Err, that'd be kind of a strange terminal where you can't paste from. :)
#464 [12:31] <Calinou> there's some menu for this... or right click
#465 [12:31] <Sad_programmer> Linux
#466 [12:31] <Sad_programmer> :)
#467 [12:31] <Calinou> ah.
#468 [12:31] <Sad_programmer> oh i saw a thing
#469 [12:32] <Calinou> what distro? :P
#470 [12:32] <Morrolan> Select it -> hit enter, then it's in your clipboard.
#471 [12:32] <Dan> Sad_programmer, yes you can just press ctrl+shift+c and you can copy it
#472 [12:32] <Calinou> what Dan said
#473 [12:32] <Sad_programmer> it couldnt find a lwjgl file
#474 [12:32] <Sad_programmer> called
#475 [12:32] <Calinou> I used linux for 2 years :P
#476 [12:32] <Calinou> still use it today but not for gaming
#477 [12:32] <Sad_programmer> libjawt.so
#478 [12:32] <Sad_programmer> it cant find it D:
#479 [12:32] <Dan> Calinou, if you read up, its ubuntu 11.04
#480 [12:32] <oldtopman> feh
#481 [12:33] <Sad_programmer> ok pasting error then
#482 [12:33] <oldtopman> Sad_programmer: I presume you've already did a complete wipe of .minecraft?
#483 [12:34] <Dan> http://facepunch.com/threads/1106114 is for you Sad_programmer with the same problem that your having
#484 [12:34] <Sad_programmer> http://pastebin.com/ebCyXKj1
#485 [12:34] <Sad_programmer> i did a wipe
#486 [12:34] <Sad_programmer> yes
#487 [12:34] <Sad_programmer> heres the error
#488 [12:34] <Sad_programmer> its missing a lwjgl file
#489 [12:34] <Morrolan> ...
#490 [12:35] <Calinou> "/root/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so"
#491 [12:35] <Calinou> derpderpderpderpderp
#492 [12:35] <Morrolan> Don't tell me you're using root?
#493 [12:35] <Calinou> y u use root to use minecraft?
#494 [12:35] <Sad_programmer> i am >.<
#495 [12:35] <Sad_programmer> cuz im awesome
#496 [12:35] <Sad_programmer> I always use root
#497 [12:35] <Calinou> you should *never* execute a program as root, unless you really need to do so.
#498 [12:35] <Dan> dont use root to use minecraft and dont sudo it
#499 [12:35] <Morrolan> *sigh*, whatever floats your boat.
#500 [12:35] <Calinou> ^ security risk
#501 [12:35] <Sad_programmer> and for the past 1.5 yrs, i've always done that
#502 [12:36] <Calinou> well, don't.
#503 [12:36] <Calinou> it should work then
#504 [12:36] <Morrolan> A sidenote regarding facepunch.com, on every thread over 50% of the people who posted there are banned it seems.
#505 [12:36] <Sad_programmer> I dont store important information on my comp and never gotten a problem before D:
#506 [12:36] <Morrolan> Must be kind of a strange site.
#507 [12:36] <oldtopman> Sad_programmer: Really, don't use root for everything.
#508 [12:37] <Sad_programmer> hm, ok D:
#509 [12:37] <oldtopman> There's no reason to do so, and it doesn't make anything better or faster.
#510 [12:37] <Sad_programmer> I know, but i think its convenient
#511 [12:37] <Sad_programmer> :3
#512 [12:37] <Sad_programmer> access to ALL the system files
#513 [12:37] <oldtopman> Also, run "java -version"
#514 [12:37] <Sad_programmer> i did
#515 [12:37] <Sad_programmer> its
#516 [12:37] <oldtopman> THATS WHY YOU RUN AS USER!
#517 [12:37] <Sad_programmer> 1.7.0_03
#518 [12:37] <oldtopman> hrm
#519 [12:38] <oldtopman> Why are you on 1.7? It causes more problems than it's worth >.>
#520 [12:38] <Sad_programmer> because
#521 [12:38] <Sad_programmer> I program in it
#522 [12:38] <Sad_programmer> yeah, I'm a novice, but still :3
#523 [12:39] <Sad_programmer> And its said that java 7 is faster
#524 [12:39] <Sad_programmer> My computer is a 500€ multimedia from 2008 xc
#525 [12:40] <oldtopman> I run minecraft on a P4 with 256MB of ram.
#526 [12:40] <Sad_programmer> ouch
#527 [12:40] <oldtopman> I get 31FPS on it.
#528 [12:40] <Sad_programmer> I have kind of alot, even 1024 MB
#529 [12:40] <Sad_programmer> 31 FPS???
#530 [12:40] <Sad_programmer> I GET
#531 [12:40] <Sad_programmer> 15-18
#532 [12:41] <Sad_programmer> :O
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#534 [12:41] * oldtopman uses better distros than ubuntu
#534 [12:41] <Sad_programmer> WITH optifine
#535 [12:41] <oldtopman> Back to your problem
#536 [12:41] <Sad_programmer> yeah
#537 [12:41] <oldtopman> That was vanilla.
#538 [12:41] <Sad_programmer> xD
#539 [12:41] <Sad_programmer> yes
#540 [12:41] <Sad_programmer> ofc
#541 [12:41] <oldtopman> Now, run it as user.
#542 [12:41] <oldtopman> What error do you get then?
#543 [12:41] <Sad_programmer> hmm
#544 [12:41] <Sad_programmer> can i run it as a user from root? o_O
#545 [12:42] <oldtopman> wtf
#546 [12:42] <Sad_programmer> So unconvenient to download the whole things again to the user acc D:
#547 [12:42] <oldtopman> Are you logging in as root on gnome?
#548 [12:42] <Sad_programmer> yes
#549 [12:42] <Sad_programmer> :S
#550 [12:42] <oldtopman> Gnome is supposed to prevent that.
#551 [12:42] <Sad_programmer> yes :3
#552 [12:42] <oldtopman> But yeah, you need to move out of root.
#553 [12:42] <Sad_programmer> ok
#554 [12:43] <Sad_programmer> brb
#555 [12:43] <oldtopman> wait.
#556 [12:43] * oldtopman waits for ping timeout
#556 [12:44] <Morrolan> "So unconvenient to download the whole things again to the user acc D:"
#557 [12:44] <Morrolan> that guy never heard of "cp" it seems.
#558 [12:45] <oldtopman> Yeah.
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#560 [12:45] <oldtopman> Can't belive he bypassed the protections just to log in as root >.>
#561 [12:45] <Sad_Programmer> er...
#562 [12:45] <oldtopman> wb!
#563 [12:45] <Sad_Programmer> hm
#564 [12:45] <Sad_Programmer> I have another problem >.<
#565 [12:46] <oldtopman> Which is...
#566 [12:46] <Sad_Programmer> When trying to log in as normal, it brings me back to login D:
#567 [12:46] <oldtopman> What?
#568 [12:46] <Sad_Programmer> I guess i'll just reinstall Ubuntu
#569 [12:46] <oldtopman> I reccomend against that.
#570 [12:46] <Sad_Programmer> Can you reccomend another version, like Kubuntu?
#571 [12:46] <oldtopman> Try this: http://www.debian.org/
#572 [12:46] <Sad_Programmer> dont worry, files are backed up :)
#573 [12:46] <Sad_Programmer> ok
#574 [12:46] <Morrolan> Linux Mint maybe?
#575 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> what linux ver is the fastest?
#576 [12:47] <oldtopman> It's similar to Ubuntu, but it's faster, and quite a bit better.
#577 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> ok, brb
#578 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> have to make dinner
#579 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> cya
#580 [12:47] <oldtopman> Oh, before you go.
#581 [12:47] <Morrolan> "fastest" version would be one where you compile it yourself with minimal options, but I advise against that. ;D
#582 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> yea?
#583 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> ok
#584 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> thanks for all!
#585 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> cya later!
#586 [12:47] <oldtopman> Debian requires you to add the repos yourself, just a quick thing you have to do after install.
#587 [12:47] <Sad_Programmer> ok
#588 [12:48] <Sad_Programmer> cya!
#589 [12:48] <oldtopman> Bye!
#590 [12:48] <Morrolan> "When trying to log in as normal, it brings me back to login" <- the account you're trying to log in to does exist, right?
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#592 [12:50] <Calinou> * oldtopman uses better distros than ubuntu
#593 [12:50] <Calinou> arch sucks.
#594 [12:50] <Morrolan> Let the war commence!
#595 [12:51] * Morrolan burries Calinou under an arch.
#595 [12:51] <Calinou> <oldtopman> Try this: http://www.debian.org/
#596 [12:51] <Calinou> debian sucks even more
#597 [12:51] <Sad_Programmer> Of cource it exists
#598 [12:51] <Sad_Programmer> im back :)
#599 [12:51] <Calinou> wb
#600 [12:52] <Sad_Programmer> hmm
#601 [12:52] <Sad_Programmer> Debian...
#602 [12:52] <Sad_Programmer> what type of OS is it?
#603 [12:52] <Sad_Programmer> UNIX?
#604 [12:52] <Calinou> linux
#605 [12:52] <oldtopman> It's the OS that Ubuntu is built from.
#606 [12:52] <Sad_Programmer> oh ok
#607 [12:52] <Sad_Programmer> :D
#608 [12:52] <oldtopman> Calinou: I use Slackware.
#609 [12:52] <Calinou> how I see debian: "something non-free here. KILL IT!!!1!1!1!1!"
#610 [12:52] <Sad_Programmer> does it have a windows compability layer like wine for installation?
#611 [12:52] <Dan> i use a mix of Archlinux and *buntu
#612 [12:52] <Calinou> yes.
#613 [12:52] <Sad_Programmer> :D
#614 [12:53] <oldtopman> Calinou: All you have to do is add "non-free" and they have EVERYTHING in the repos.
#615 [12:53] <Calinou> Dan, unix unix unix, oh no I killed someone.
#616 [12:53] <Sad_Programmer> lawl
#617 [12:53] <Calinou> oldtopman, debian is so much in the 1990s too
#618 [12:53] <Calinou> "bandwidth is costy"
#619 [12:53] <oldtopman> pfft
#620 [12:53] <Sad_Programmer> wutlol
#621 [12:54] <Sad_Programmer> hm
#622 [12:54] <Sad_Programmer> Debian talks about their CDs being costy. can i burn a ISO instead?
#623 [12:54] <Dan> yes
#624 [12:54] <Sad_Programmer> nice
#625 [12:54] <Sad_Programmer> I'll test it :D
#626 [12:54] <Sad_Programmer> brb
#627 [12:54] <Sad_Programmer> cya
#628 [12:55] <Dan> Sad_Programmer, it would be better to use one line when you talk on here
#629 [12:55] <Morrolan> You're not _actually_ going to reinstall your operating system because you can't log in as a normal user? oO
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#631 [12:57] <oldtopman> Morrolan: Think about this.
#632 [12:58] <oldtopman> He said "
#633 [12:58] <oldtopman> <Sad_programmer> access to ALL the system files"
#634 [12:58] <Morrolan> Yea, okay, he probably messed up something.
#635 [12:58] <oldtopman> So, he was likely messing with those, and java won't behave normally.
#636 [12:58] <oldtopman> And Ubuntu is not very modular at all, so a reinstall is probably due.
#637 [12:58] <Dan> he might of chown everything to him and now its screwing up
#638 [13:17] <Sad_Programmer> Hello!
#639 [13:18] <Dan> Sad_Programmer, are you thinking of redoing your computer?
#640 [13:18] <Sad_Programmer> yup
#641 [13:19] <Sad_Programmer> And I haven't messed TOO much with my system files...
#642 [13:19] <Dan> did you chown everything to you?
#643 [13:19] <Sad_Programmer> yes
#644 [13:19] <Sad_Programmer> but my mind is still not clear about why it suddenly didn't work...
#645 [13:20] <Dan> well you chown everything to you when you shouldnt
#646 [13:20] <Sad_Programmer> I must have been a lwjgl thing when jeb_ made that
#647 [13:20] <Sad_Programmer> yeah..
#648 [13:20] <Dan> no
#649 [13:20] <Sad_Programmer> .
#650 [13:21] <Dan> lwjgl.so is in your .minecraft folder and you are sudo the minecraft.jar file so .minecraft is now in your root folder and not in your own home folder
#651 [13:22] <Sad_Programmer> root/.minecraft
#652 [13:22] <Sad_Programmer> and it worked as long as i've used minecraft
#653 [13:22] <Sad_Programmer> until today
#654 [13:22] <Dan> yea and you should never run a program under ROOT unless it says to
#655 [13:22] <Sad_Programmer> out of nothing.
#656 [13:22] <Sad_Programmer> yeah, i've learned my lesson, i wont
#657 [13:22] <Dan> bet if you sudo java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame it will work
#658 [13:22] <Sad_Programmer> it doesnt
#659 [13:22] <Sad_Programmer> i tried
#660 [13:23] <Dan> do rm -R /root/.minecraft
#661 [13:23] <Sad_Programmer> remove it why?
#662 [13:23] <Sad_Programmer> I tried to remove it
#663 [13:23] <Sad_Programmer> but it didnt work
#664 [13:23] <Dan> did you also remove the .minecraft from your home as well?
#665 [13:24] <Sad_Programmer> I didnt have any
#666 [13:24] <Dan> you do know its a hidden folder
#667 [13:24] <Sad_Programmer> Since I updated to 11.04 1 month ago
#668 [13:24] <Sad_Programmer> I know its hidden lol
#669 [13:24] <Sad_Programmer> :)
#670 [13:24] <Dan> the current stable ubuntu release is 11.10 and 12.04 LTS less then 2 weeks
#671 [13:25] <Sad_Programmer> oh, pardon me i updated to 11.10 less than 1 month ago
#672 [13:25] <Dan> are you running minecraft.jar under normal access
#673 [13:25] <Sad_Programmer> Administrator
#674 [13:25] <Sad_Programmer> or what do you mean?
#675 [13:26] <Dan> stop and run it under non-admin access or non-root access
#676 [13:26] <Sad_Programmer> how? My user acc doesn't work
#677 [13:26] <Sad_Programmer> that's why I'd want to reinstall
#678 [13:26] <Dan> just run it without sudo or forcing you to run it under admin access
#679 [13:26] <Sad_Programmer> ok
#680 [13:27] <Dan> your account is an admin account but you can run programs under your own access and not root access
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#683 [13:27] <Sad_Programmer> ok
#684 [13:28] <Sad_Programmer> Didnt work D:
#685 [13:28] <Dan> what errors did you get?
#686 [13:28] <Sad_Programmer> No
#687 [13:28] <Sad_Programmer> Nothing
#688 [13:28] <Sad_Programmer> :/
#689 [13:28] <Sad_Programmer> Thats it, I'll install Linux Minet
#690 [13:28] <Sad_Programmer> *Mint
#691 [13:28] <Sad_Programmer> Cya!
#692 [13:28] <Sad_Programmer> I've had it with some errors :/
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#694 [13:29] <Dan> what were the errors?
#695 [13:29] <Sad_Programmer> There was no errors
#696 [13:29] <Sad_Programmer> but it didnt work either
#697 [13:29] <Sad_Programmer> :/
#698 [13:29] <Sad_Programmer> wierd
#699 [13:29] <Sad_Programmer> But, yeah, ill cya
#700 [13:29] <Sad_Programmer> :)
#701 [13:31] <Morrolan> Linux Mint surely is a good choice in his case. :)
#702 [13:31] <Dan> lol
#703 [13:33] <Dan> i dont know why anybody would run a program under root unless you need to install something
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#710 [13:56] <Polish> i got a new computer and all of a sudden i keep getting a "bad video card drivers!" error
#711 [13:56] <Polish> http://pastebin.com/CATBg6yd <--- here it is
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#714 [13:59] <sicknuke> Polish: yo
#715 [13:59] <sicknuke> Youre might not like this
#716 [14:00] <sicknuke> What type of graphics adapter you got?
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#718 [14:00] <sicknuke> Polish: any time now
#719 [14:01] <Polish> umm sorry
#720 [14:02] <Polish> i was searching it on google
#721 [14:02] <sicknuke> Well?
#722 [14:02] <sicknuke> What adapter you got?
#723 [14:02] <Polish> im not sure
#724 [14:03] <clarjon1> ?dxdiag
#725 [14:03] <sicknuke> ^
#726 [14:03] <clarjon1> ?? dxdiag
#727 [14:03] <clarjon1> hm
#728 [14:03] <Polish> ?dxdiag
#729 [14:03] <clarjon1> :dxdiag
#730 [14:03] <Polish> im on that
#731 [14:03] <Polish> DirectX
#732 [14:03] <clarjon1> Polish: there's an option to save the info from dxdiag
#733 [14:04] <clarjon1> save as a txt, pastebin the file contents
#734 [14:04] <sicknuke> ^upload that
#735 [14:04] <sicknuke> Hmm
#736 [14:04] <sicknuke> I have an idea.
#737 [14:04] <Polish> did you want the Main Driver:?
#738 [14:04] <clarjon1> we want the file
#739 [14:04] <sicknuke> clarjon1: you remember how to get to hardware acceleration?
#740 [14:05] <sicknuke> Im on a phone e-e
#741 [14:05] <sicknuke> That could help him
#742 [14:05] <sicknuke> If its an intel GMA
#743 [14:05] <clarjon1> sicknuke: won't help much if we don't know what he has
#744 [14:05] <sicknuke> ^
#745 [14:05] <clarjon1> Polish: Click the "Save All Information" button plz
#746 [14:05] <Polish> i did
#747 [14:05] <clarjon1> okay
#748 [14:05] <Polish> and its on my desktop
#749 [14:05] <clarjon1> can you pastebin the file that you saved
#750 [14:06] <clarjon1> double click, select all, copy, go to pastebin, paste, and give us the URL
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#752 [14:06] <Polish> is it safe for it to be on pastebin.com?
#753 [14:07] <clarjon1> yes
#754 [14:07] <clarjon1> all it is is just hardware info
#755 [14:07] <clarjon1> no product keys, no passwords
#756 [14:07] <sicknuke> ^
#757 [14:07] <clarjon1> The only way it'd be unsafe is if you are using a government issued prototype computer :)
#758 [14:07] <Polish> http://pastebin.com/qhZ0utNP
#759 [14:07] <clarjon1> ah
#760 [14:07] * sicknuke gives a shifty look
#760 [14:08] <clarjon1> ahaaaaa
#761 [14:08] <sicknuke> Intel gma?
#762 [14:08] <clarjon1> Polish: Your computer is using the drivers from Windows Update
#763 [14:08] <Polish> is that bad?
#764 [14:09] <clarjon1> Well, Microsoft tends to not like OpenGL much -- as it kinda is a competitor to their DirectX -- so they tend to leave OpenGL stuff out of their drivers.
#765 [14:09] <sicknuke> Huh
#766 [14:09] <clarjon1> http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_winvista32_15.00.html Get your driver from nVIDIA here.
#767 [14:09] <sicknuke> Yeah, reinstall
#768 [14:09] <sicknuke> ^^
#769 [14:10] <Polish> it worked fine when i had the other software installed
#770 [14:10] <clarjon1> Polish: Install that, most likely will need to reboot, and you should be good to go :)
#771 [14:11] <Polish> will it uninstall when windows updates the drivers?
#772 [14:11] <clarjon1> nah
#773 [14:11] <Polish> k ill brb gotta restart
#774 [14:11] <clarjon1> See you after the jump!
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#778 [14:29] <Polish> http://pastebin.com/5rmhwKT4
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#780 [14:30] <Wug> Polish: looks like you need a graphics driver update
#781 [14:30] <Wug> Kealper: rawr
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#783 [14:31] <Polish> yea
#784 [14:31] <Polish> someone just helped me with it
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#786 [14:31] <Polish> and i downloaded the new driver
#787 [14:31] <Polish> and its the same thing
#788 [14:32] <Wug> do you have a laptop
#789 [14:33] <Wug> lemme backread
#790 [14:34] <Polish> no i dont
#791 [14:34] <Wug> dont set your pastes to expire
#792 [14:34] <Wug> or at least leave them up for a day
#793 [14:35] <Polish> i set them to expire?
#794 [14:35] <Polish> you can do that
#795 [14:35] <Wug> I think you did with your dxdiag? its not there anymoew
#796 [14:35] <Wug> more*
#797 [14:35] <Polish> oh :/
#798 [14:36] <Polish> i can get the new one if you want
#799 [14:37] <Wug> that would be good
#800 [14:37] <Polish> http://pastebin.com/ev4TKgKc
#801 [14:38] <Wug> the driver you have installed for your graphics card reports that the version installed was released in 2009
#802 [14:38] <Wug> grab teamviewer and I'll try to sort it out
#803 [14:38] <Wug> :tv
#804 [14:38] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#805 [14:38] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#806 [14:38] <Polish> ok
#807 [14:39] <Polish> ive gotten this before
#808 [14:39] <Wug> from me?
#809 [14:39] <Wug> if I've tried in the past and not fixed it, you might be out of luck
#810 [14:40] <Polish> no not from you
#811 [14:40] <Wug> do you remember who
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#813 [14:40] <Polish> i got it because people kept asking me to help them make a server so i was like screw it
#814 [14:41] <Wug> ooooohhhh
#815 [14:41] <Wug> ok I get it. no matter. fire it up
#816 [14:41] <Polish> its up and i msged you the info
#817 [14:43] <Calinou> derp.
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#823 [15:24] <Kaito> Does someone have a couple minutes to try to reproduce a bug with pistons for me?
#824 [15:24] <Morrolan> Dan - Because it is just what he said - convenient.
#825 [15:25] <Morrolan> Imagine system update or shutdown, no need to use sudo, you can just enter the command and *bam*, done.
#826 [15:25] <Morrolan> It's a high price to pay for said convenience, but, well.
#827 [15:27] <Calinou> Kaito, usually you don't need to ask others to reproduce bugs :P
#828 [15:27] <Calinou> bugs are NEVER OS-specific when they are purely related to the game content itself
#829 [15:28] <Kaito> alright
#830 [15:28] <Kaito> can someone check it for me anyway? :P
#831 [15:28] <Kaito> uploading a pic to dropbox now...
#832 [15:28] <Calinou> what is it
#833 [15:28] <Kaito> Piston behavior
#834 [15:28] <Calinou> I know
#835 [15:29] <Calinou> also... you should put it on the known bugs page
#836 [15:30] <Kaito> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50093375/MinecraftPistonBug.jpg
#837 [15:30] <Kaito> If the pink block is powered via redstone torch, the bottom piston will fire, but when the torch is removed, the top piston block will be pushed out
#838 [15:30] <Calinou> ...and?
#839 [15:30] <Kaito> those are sticky pistons, by the way
#840 [15:30] <Calinou> ah
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#843 [15:37] <Kaito> hm
#844 [15:37] <Kaito> I used this bug to make a binary counter
#845 [15:37] <Kaito> granted, only 2 bit, but still
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#862 [17:18] <NinjaKirby> ><Kaito> If the pink block is powered via redstone torch, the bottom piston will fire, but when the torch is removed, the top piston block will be pushed out - I'm unable to emulate this, I'm getting expected results
#863 [17:19] <NinjaKirby> Ah, I take that back, I had an elusive bit of Redstone messing it up.
#864 [17:21] <NinjaKirby> Ah, I can see why it's happening though, the Redstone remains energised whilst it reverts to it's initial form (Not connected to anything and presents as a single patch). The latter happens instantaneously, naturally.
#865 [17:22] <NinjaKirby> Very intredasting, and when connecting the Red Torch it converts to a line of Redstone, before actually energizing
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#868 [17:24] <Kaito> hm
#869 [17:24] <Kaito> interesting
#870 [17:24] <Kaito> thank you for the answer
#871 [17:25] <NinjaKirby> :) I dunno if that's intended mechanics, delay in the electricity. Maybe it's a Tick related thing, and can't energise and convert simultaneously? :/
#872 [17:31] <oldtopman> NinjaKirby: That is how the glitch for guplicating powered rails works.
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#874 [17:32] <NinjaKirby> To be honest, I wasn't even aware of such a duplication bug :P
#875 [17:37] <oldtopman> NinjaKirby: Yeah, AFAIK it's only my server that knows of it. Certainly someone else found out about it, but it's not mainstream yet.
#876 [17:37] <oldtopman> It's a hipster bug/
#877 [17:38] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, I personally don't "do" bug exploitation, neither am I a "romscout" and trying to break things :3
#878 [17:40] <NinjaKirby> I fukken' love Rachmaninoff's Second Sonata, it's so... HRRRNG
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#881 [18:00] <NinjaKirby> Is there any native server commands that control the weather?
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#891 [18:54] <RDCA> Hey, I am on Windows 8, consumer preview, and every time I try to run MC I get the OpenGL video card error. I know my drivers are up to date, but yet it still won't work. Any help?
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#894 [18:55] <NinjaKirby> Maybe it's a recipe for disaster, but Java v7 Beta? Would that be engineered for Win8?
#895 [18:55] <NinjaKirby> Maybe it's a recipe for disaster, but Java v7 Beta? Would that be engineered for Win8?
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#897 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> Then perhaps the video card manufacturer hasn't released a driver compatible with win8 yet?
#898 [18:56] <RDCA> Considering it isn't a Java error, plus I am pretty sure I already got it installed, since Eclipse tends to remind me about it.
#899 [18:57] * NinjaKirby herp derps
#899 [18:57] <NinjaKirby> Waddoiknow eh
#900 [18:57] <NinjaKirby> Java v8 to be extra safe then
#901 [18:58] <NinjaKirby> The pre-release candidate 0.37 alpha preliminary build
#902 [19:01] <NinjaKirby> I sense he was not a fan of the idea.
#903 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> Why in the actual f[bleep]ck would anyone voluntarily run Windows: Phone interface for the desktop Edition?
#904 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Granted, if you're really into the unpredictably-behaving blocks thing, maybe Metro is for you :p
#905 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> Dope: I haven't used Win8 at all, do you suggest avoiding it like the plague?
#906 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> It took less than ten seconds to _infuriate_ me
#907 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> it's probably be great on a tablet, but it has _NO_ business being on a desktop computer.
#908 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> And don't get me started on the irony of the latest version of Windows making an effort to eliminate the precept of a windowed multitasking workspace
#909 [19:10] <NinjaKirby> You make it sound like it could flop, even worse then Vista did.
#910 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> M$ has a history of this
#911 [19:11] <DopeGhoti> If MS gets its collective head out of it's ass and _only_ uses it for tablets, it might work. Otherwise it will be a worse disaster than Vista, WinME, and DOS 4.0 combined
#912 [19:12] <NinjaKirby> How can the entire company and it's work force not be in touch with what the users want? O_o I'm confused how they could be so far off key
#913 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> the only forces who have any say in MS are Legal and Marketing, is my theory.
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#915 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> which is why Windows 7 is actually Windows 6.1
#916 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> (I have yet to check whether 8 is 7.0 or 6.2)
#917 [19:13] <Eddie> Math.ceiling
#918 [19:13] <Eddie> ^.^
#919 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> I like my Win7 :3 So stable
#920 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> I prefer my POSIX environments, TYVM (:
#921 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> though I will say that Win7 is the best iteration of Windows since Win2000
#922 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> if only they'd not faffed about and made the Control Panel an impossible mess.
#923 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, and oh god, the Networking Panels I swear are so fkn' convoluted
#924 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> Trying to get to Network Adapters and stuff now, wat
#925 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> I have yet to find a way that's not three or more layers deep
#926 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> fortunately, I know how to do most of what I want to do to NICs on the command line
#927 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, netstat and stuff?
#928 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> `netsh ip set address "Local area connection" static 192.168.23.45 255.255.255.0 1`, for example
#929 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> netsh is where it's at (:
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#931 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> :P Whatever you say, officer
#932 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> hey, being able to set my IP configuration in ten seconds on the command line beats the hell out of spending a minute and a half drilling my way to what used to be the "Network Connections" control panel any day, sir or ma'am or other.
#933 [19:19] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, da
#934 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> (on systems I admin, it's actually faster as I always rename "Local Area Connection" to "Ether". Or, if I'm feeling snarky, "eth0".
#935 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> )
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#937 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Am I missing a reference, why that name?
#938 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Short for ethernet, or the default eth0 for ethernet interface
#939 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> less typing makes a lazy sysadmin a happy sysadmin.
#940 [19:23] <GreyVulpine> Instead of Window's, "Local area connection", "Local area connection 1"
#941 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> I'm such an idiot, I just read it as a whole word rather then an abbreviation
#942 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> It's Friday, you're allowed to have turned your brain off for the weekend. (:
#943 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> So true!
#944 [19:25] * NinjaKirby relaxes back in his chair
#944 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> Out of curiosity DopeGhoti, are you aware of the YouTube Gamer Dopefish? (Which if memory serves, is the translation of Ghoti)
#945 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> I say YouTube, it's more of his own Website & Community
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#947 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> I am unaware of such a person.
#948 [19:30] <NinjaKirby> Oh, fairy'nuff
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#974 [22:49] <RedefinedClank> Read this: http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/winstupid/1
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#980 [23:21] <AlmtyBob> If my gf wants to play in creative mode while I play in normal on the same server, can I do that with just console commands?
#981 [23:21] <AlmtyBob> or do I need some sort of modd
#982 [23:21] <AlmtyBob> *mod?
#983 [23:21] <AlmtyBob> Oh, using Bukkit btw
#984 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> It's possible
#985 [23:21] <AlmtyBob> something like /mode mygf creative?
#986 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> /gamemode gf'sname 1
#987 [23:21] <AlmtyBob> cool, thanks
#988 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Will switch her to creative
#989 [23:22] <GreyVulpine> 0 is survival
#990 [23:22] <AlmtyBob> thanks. Is there a way to see the "top 100" or something plugins on Bukkit? The browser for plugins seems pretty awful
#991 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> One metric would be here: http://metrics.griefcraft.com/
#992 [23:23] <AlmtyBob> great, thanks again
#993 [23:23] <AlmtyBob> Essentials! That's what I was looking for
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#997 [23:40] <AlmtyBob> Can you set the spawn point in-game with bukkit?
#998 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> With a mod like worldedit, or essentials, yes
#999 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> Essentials has /setspawn, /setwarp, and /sethome
#1000 [23:43] <AlmtyBob> thanks
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#1002 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> ;check Chirstain
#1003 [23:58] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: cpe-76-90-32-25.socal.res.rr.com:25565 (Timed out)
#1004 [23:58] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, appears to be timing out for the bot as well. Are you hosting this at home?
#1005 [23:58] <Chirstain> Yea
#1006 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Have you port forwarded?
#1007 [23:59] <Chirstain> Port forwarded, set a static IP, and am using Kamachi
#1008 [23:59] <Chirstain> Hamachi*
#1009 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> Ah, Hamachi..
#1010 [23:59] <Chirstain> Typo >.<