#1 [00:00] <oldtopman> ??> Chirstain fubar/hamachi
#2 [00:00] <VoxelHead> Chirstain: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#3 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> With servers being hosted on hamachi, people need hamachi installed as well as joining the hoster's hamachi network to join
#4 [00:00] <VoxelHead> Chirstain: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#5 [00:00] <oldtopman> derp
#6 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> Easy there oldtopman. Heh.
#7 [00:01] <Chirstain> Am Sorry, Im new to all of this
#8 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> First off, it's advisable not to use Hamachi. Port forwarding does the job just fine, and doesn't require people installed a third-party client to connect to your server
#9 [00:01] <oldtopman> GreyVulpine, mind if i msg you?
#10 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Go for it
#11 [00:04] <Chirstain> For some reason, just port forwarding wasnt working before, and now hamachi doesnt seem to either... Probably did it wrong then...
#12 [00:04] <Chirstain> Im gonna uninstall Hamachi and retry the port forwarding
#13 [00:05] <oldtopman> Chirstain: Hamachi and port forwarding don't mix all that great.
#14 [00:05] <oldtopman> Chir||AFK:^
#15 [00:05] <oldtopman> So, good idea :)
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#17 [00:08] <Chir||AFK> Does it make a difference as to whether I am using a wireless adapter or an ethernet cable?
#18 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> It does not.
#19 [00:08] <Chirstain> K then..
#20 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> In the meantime, double check your port forwarding. Make sure you're using the right internal IP address. Make sure your router's public ip address matches up with ipchicken.com or whatismyip.org
#21 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> Check your security software, make sure the port for minecraft isn't being blocked by a firewall
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#30 [00:40] <arubian> Hello when i join a server i get this it kicks me and get an error http://gyazo.com/35ca1fdd37209aa7d9163420c3faf882
#31 [00:41] <MuumiJumala> no1 cares
#32 [00:41] <arubian> i think people do care ^_^
#33 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> What username are you using?
#34 [00:43] <arubian> ??
#35 [00:43] <arubian> XxarubianxX
#36 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> What is your MC username?
#37 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#38 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what mods that server is running?
#39 [00:44] <arubian> uhmm bukkit
#40 [00:44] <arubian> well it did not kick me yet
#41 [00:44] <arubian> 0.o
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#46 [01:00] <Chirstain> I cant get port forwarding to work... Forwarded port 25565 and set a static IP in my router setup menu, and it still wont work... Tried Hamachi, but uninstalled it after people told me bad stuff about it, and that it wouldnt work either... i can log on to in, just none of my friends can. What should I do?
#47 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> Got teamviewer?
#48 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> ?? teamviewer
#49 [01:01] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#50 [01:01] <Chirstain> No
#51 [01:01] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#52 [01:01] <Chirstain> Idk...
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#54 [01:02] <Chirstain> Im not qute sre abou this...
#55 [01:02] <Chirstain> quite sure*
#56 [01:02] <Chirstain> about*
#57 [01:04] <SinZ> why is everyone so scared of TV the first time <3
#58 [01:06] <Chirstain> Maybe i just dont like the idea of some guy I just met on an IRC channel taking complete remote control of my computer.. Idk, maybe its just me.
#59 [01:07] <Chirstain> I must be weird or something.
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#76 [02:22] <ifnspifn> Heya, question about a local minecraft server... I'm running the most up to date server exe on my machine, and alongside it I'm running Minecraft. I can't connect to the server due to a timeout error, where logging in is taking too long. The IP address and port look to be correct.. any ideas?
#77 [02:23] <ifnspifn> I'm running Windows 7, and both Minecraft and the server were started in administrator mode
#78 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Does the server see the connection being made from the client?
#79 [02:23] <ifnspifn> Yes
#80 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> What does the server's log say?
#81 [02:23] <ifnspifn> [INFO] Disconnecting /192.168.0.11:37211: Took too long to log in
#82 [02:24] <ifnspifn> that port number is obviously incorrect... but when I'm in the minecraft GUI, I connect using this string: "192.168.0.11:25565"
#83 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> That's correct. The client connects via 25565, the server responds back with a random port
#84 [02:24] <ifnspifn> Ah, okay
#85 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Now.. Hmm. Could you go into server.properties and turn off online-mode. Restart the server and see if you can log in again
#86 [02:26] <ifnspifn> k, I set online-mode to false, restarted, and I get the same error
#87 [02:26] <ifnspifn> with the same log reading
#88 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Strange. You're connecting from the same computer that's running the server?
#89 [02:27] <ifnspifn> yes indeedy
#90 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> online-mode forces the server to authenticate users connecting to the server via mojang's session server. Sometimes if the server doesn't authenticate the user in time, you get that message.
#91 [02:28] <GreyVulpine> So if it's not that, the client's not able to finish logging into the server for some reason
#92 [02:29] <ifnspifn> I figured it was something like that.. this is so very odd.
#93 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> Either server or client modded in any way?
#94 [02:29] <GreyVulpine> I've also seen this happen, inexplicably, because the client has an HD texture pack as well
#95 [02:29] <ifnspifn> nope, Minecraft was just recently patched from an older download, and the server was freshly downloaded
#96 [02:30] <ifnspifn> Oh lawd, apparently Windows Firewall was on without my knowing. I'll try to shut it down, and try again
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#98 [02:32] <ifnspifn> nope, didn't seem to change anything
#99 [02:33] <ifnspifn> how frustrating
#100 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Got any other security software?
#101 [02:33] <ifnspifn> Microsoft Security Essentials, though I don't think it'll block connections..
#102 [02:33] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps try going into the client's .minecraft/ -- and removing everything but the saves folder. Only way to ensure a clean install
#103 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> MSE doesn't
#104 [02:35] <ifnspifn> where would that directory be located?
#105 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on ?
#106 [02:35] <ifnspifn> Windows 7
#107 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> Oh right. Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#108 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder (can be in /roaming).
#109 [02:35] <ifnspifn> got it!
#110 [02:36] <ifnspifn> alright, re-patching
#111 [02:37] <ifnspifn> alas :(
#112 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> Huh. Well then..
#113 [02:37] <ifnspifn> the directory of the server shouldn't matter, right?
#114 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> It shouldn't
#115 [02:39] <ifnspifn> oh, kind of a key factor here
#116 [02:39] <ifnspifn> I'm running a 64 bit OS
#117 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Also wouldn't matter
#118 [02:39] <ifnspifn> could that be causing any issues?
#119 [02:39] <ifnspifn> righto, JVM and all that
#120 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> With what IP are you using to connect?
#121 [02:41] <ifnspifn> well, it ideally should be my computer's local IP address, 192.168.0.11
#122 [02:41] <ifnspifn> which I got from running ipconfig
#123 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Should be right..
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#125 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Was just wondering if you were using your public IP address, your internal IP address, or loopback
#126 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Well hmm.
#127 [02:43] <ifnspifn> le sigh. Well, I really appreciate that you're trying :)
#128 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> What version of the server are you running?
#129 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> Should be in the first or second line of the server.log
#130 [02:44] <ifnspifn> for what it's worth, I just connected successfully to a public server
#131 [02:44] <ifnspifn> 1.0.0
#132 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> That.. would be why
#133 [02:44] <ifnspifn> oh. god.
#134 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> 1.2.5 is the latest version
#135 [02:44] <ifnspifn> seriously?
#136 [02:44] <ifnspifn> but
#137 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Seriously.
#138 [02:44] <ifnspifn> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#139 [02:44] <ifnspifn> but!
#140 [02:44] <ifnspifn> I.. I got it fromhere!?
#141 [02:44] <ifnspifn> NO I FUCKING DIDN'T
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#143 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> It's an old version, which would cause that
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#145 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Heh.
#146 [02:45] <ifnspifn> apparently swearing isn't allowed
#147 [02:45] <ifnspifn> in here
#148 [02:45] <ifnspifn> oh man
#149 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Sorry about that, bot doesn't like it
#150 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Just redownload the server file. Turn online-mode back to true
#151 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> You should be able to connect to your server
#152 [02:45] <ifnspifn> GreyVulpine, I give you a billion internet dollars for sitting through 15 minutes of me derping
#153 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Heh, no worries
#154 [02:46] <ifnspifn> if you're interested in the extent of the derp, I'd previously downloaded Minecraft_Server.exe
#155 [02:46] <ifnspifn> so when I downloaded the new one, Windows renamed it with a (1)
#156 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Ahh.. *nod*
#157 [02:47] <ifnspifn> So, yeah. This reminds me of that time I spent a week debugging some code because, finding red herrings left and right, only to find I'd misplaced a single bracket
#158 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> Most of us here know that feeling. Heh
#159 [02:49] <ifnspifn> well, thanks a ton, Grey. You've allowed everyone in my apartment to enjoy Minecraft once more :) most of em haven't played since Alpha
#160 [02:49] <ifnspifn> farewell!
#161 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> Glad I could help. Enjoy
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#172 [04:07] <Sexydoll> I need help on purchasing the game, because i have a problem on using my card.
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#198 [07:08] <Hellpro> hello
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#200 [07:09] <Hellpro> can someone tell me if Radeon graphic cards will be supported by Minecraft?
#201 [07:09] <Hellpro> can someone tell me if Radeon graphic cards will be supported by Minecraft?
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#204 [07:20] <Mox> Hi, in the XBox Arcade version of Minecraft, will splitscreen be enabled?
#205 [07:23] <TheNoodle> We have no idea afaik.
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#210 [08:18] <guacamole> HI/ bonjours
#211 [08:18] <Calinou> hi
#212 [08:18] <Calinou> english here please
#213 [08:19] <guacamole> okay no problem
#214 [08:19] <guacamole> where can i speak with a moderator ?
#215 [08:19] <guacamole> from minecraft ?
#216 [08:19] <Morrolan> A moderator of?
#217 [08:19] <Morrolan> Minecraft doesn't have any sort of game moderators.
#218 [08:19] <Calinou> there are no minecraft moderators
#219 [08:19] <Calinou> if you got banned from a server, we can't help
#220 [08:19] <Morrolan> If it's about an issue with a server then you'll have to talk to the server's administrator.
#221 [08:19] <Calinou> just move on.
#222 [08:20] <guacamole> okay thanks you
#223 [08:20] <guacamole> i want to telll him about my account
#224 [08:20] <Morrolan> Mind explaining your actual issue?
#225 [08:20] <guacamole> where can i tell administrator ?
#226 [08:20] <Morrolan> Well, what is your issue?
#227 [08:20] <guacamole> yes
#228 [08:21] <guacamole> I have a new account
#229 [08:21] <guacamole> from friend
#230 [08:21] <Morrolan> A Minecraft account? Okay.
#231 [08:21] <guacamole> and i want to change the name
#232 [08:21] <guacamole> i think it is not possible
#233 [08:21] <Morrolan> Yep, you can not change your account's name. .)
#234 [08:21] <guacamole> but because it is new
#235 [08:21] <guacamole> :S
#236 [08:22] <guacamole> i can try
#237 [08:22] <TheNoodle> lol.
#238 [08:22] <guacamole> where can i contact a administrator
#239 [08:22] <Morrolan> Currently Mojang doesn't offer you to change your account name, sorry.
#240 [08:22] <guacamole> please
#241 [08:22] <guacamole> i don't understand i'm french
#242 [08:23] <Boreeas> You can't.
#243 [08:23] <guacamole> okok
#244 [08:23] <guacamole> i have money for him :P
#245 [08:23] <guacamole> lol
#246 [08:23] <Boreeas> Doesn't matter, you still can't.
#247 [08:23] <TheNoodle> aucun changement, toujours.
#248 [08:23] <guacamole> okay thanks you
#249 [08:24] <guacamole> bye bye
#250 [08:24] <TheNoodle> Goodbye guacamole.
#251 [08:24] <TheNoodle> Goodbye guacamole.
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#253 [08:24] <Morrolan> If you have the moeny then just buy..
#254 [08:24] <Morrolan> Blargh.
#255 [08:24] <Morrolan> money*
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#261 [09:18] <mib_zt67as2> hello in eed help with my server
#262 [09:18] <mib_zt67as2> plugin doesnt work
#263 [09:19] <Morrolan> Suggest you ask in the plugin's channel if there is one. If not, ask in its forum thread. :)
#264 [09:19] <mib_zt67as2> there is none thread
#265 [09:20] <mib_zt67as2> its loginexploiter
#266 [09:22] <Morrolan> Yea, alone the name of that plugin makes me doubt you'll get support for it here.
#267 [09:25] <mib_zt67as2> butt this is minecraft help yes
#268 [09:26] <Morrolan> It is, but we mainly help with Vanilla Minecraft.
#269 [09:26] <Morrolan> And we surely won't help with anything which is called "login exploiter"
#270 [09:26] <mib_zt67as2> omg you guise suck
#271 [09:26] <Morrolan> Keep it nice.
#272 [09:26] <mib_zt67as2> i just want help
#273 [09:26] <mib_zt67as2> fuck you
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#284 [10:37] <Kaito> woot, I built a reset button for a single t-flip flop
#285 [10:37] <Kaito> now if I can only daisy chain these together...
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#290 [12:09] <Tefret> Hi there. I'm using a Bukkit server, but I believe its a minecrafthelp question. I've recently changed ISP's at home and the modem/router/wap is in a different room than my office. So I purchased a wifi bridge to I can link my two office computers with internt.
#291 [12:09] <Tefret> question.... so since I've done this, I often get the "End of Stream" error on both computers... it also shows up as the java error too sometimes. Anyone experience problems like this?
#292 [12:10] <Tefret> No one else who uses the smp server that we use are experiencing this.
#293 [12:11] <Tefret> i also have shell access to the server and can modify both server or client to try to resolve this.
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#295 [12:14] <Wug> Tefret: what address are you connecting to
#296 [12:14] <Wug> local or external
#297 [12:16] <Tefret> external
#298 [12:16] <Tefret> I've just come up with an idea... I'm going to grab my laptop, and hook it up directly to the router to see if its the wifi bridge... then I can narrow it down a bit as to why its happening
#299 [12:17] <Wug> that would help
#300 [12:17] <Wug> also, try connecting with the internal address
#301 [12:17] <Tefret> other games don't have usues.. I play call of duty and get decent ping times and no lag/drop outs.
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#303 [12:17] <Tefret> the server is not on my lan
#304 [12:18] <Tefret> same town.... a friend hosts it at his work location in a vm
#305 [12:18] <Wug> oooohhhhh
#306 [12:18] <Wug> ok
#307 [12:18] <Wug> yeah, try the laptop
#308 [12:33] <Tefret> OK.. Tried the laptop and it just did the same thing! DOW! I thought it was the bridge for sure.
#309 [12:33] <Tefret> so that leaves the crappy isp router... or something has changed on the server
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#312 [12:34] <xtremium12> hello any admin on
#313 [12:34] <xtremium12> i order a gift code and i got my order number still didnt get my key its been 2 weeks
#314 [12:34] <Boreeas> How did you pay?
#315 [12:34] <xtremium12> money card
#316 [12:34] <xtremium12> i got my order number
#317 [12:35] <Boreeas> Did you get any confirmation from Mojang that they received the payment?
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#319 [12:36] <xtremium12> Purchase Complete!
#320 [12:36] <xtremium12> Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour.
#321 [12:36] <xtremium12> Receipt
#322 [12:36] <Grim_Reaper> xtremium12 where did you buy the game from?
#323 [12:37] <xtremium12> Purchase Complete!Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour. ReceiptPlease save this information, it is useful if you were ever to contact support. Upon processing your payment a receipt regarding the transaction will be sent by e-mail, please store this information as well.
#324 [12:37] <Grim_Reaper> xtremium12 where did you buy the game from?
#325 [12:37] <xtremium12> minecraft.net
#326 [12:38] <Grim_Reaper> ok. And what is your minecraft username?
#327 [12:38] <xtremium12> maximusprime82
#328 [12:38] <Grim_Reaper> !paid maximusprime82
#329 [12:38] <Boreeas> Grim_Reaper: He is looking for a gift code
#330 [12:38] <xtremium12> yeha i order a gift code
#331 [12:38] <Grim_Reaper> Oh
#332 [12:38] <Grim_Reaper> Shouldn't the gift code be sent straight away?
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#334 [12:39] <Leanna> Hello everyone!
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#337 [12:39] <Boreeas> No, it's similar to a normal purchase
#338 [12:39] <nekronuke> Wat
#339 [12:39] <xtremium12> thats what im looking for i got no gift code
#340 [12:39] <Boreeas> Haha
#341 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> xtremium12 - First thing to do, is to call up the bank of the card you used to pay for minecraft with, make sure that payment was recorded on their end
#342 [12:39] <Boreeas> xtremium12: You didn't get any receipt, did you? The one mentioned in the e-mail
#343 [12:40] <Leanna> How's everyone today?
#344 [12:40] <xtremium12> no receipt
#345 [12:43] <xtremium12> just got a confirm code
#346 [12:43] <xtremium12> or order code
#347 [12:44] <xtremium12> Boreas?
#348 [12:49] <Tefret> Wug: Its not the wifi bridge.. my laptop did it as well when it was plugged directly into the router.. :( Have any idea's on what to try?
#349 [12:49] <Wug> its probably the isp then. you could call and complain
#350 [12:49] <Tefret> hmm.
#351 [12:50] <Tefret> Is there a way I can see anymore detailed info so I have a better excuse than "it doesn't work"
#352 [12:51] <Wug> probably not :P
#353 [12:51] <Wug> not without fairly detailed understanding of how ISPs get data moving
#354 [12:51] <Tefret> Let me see if there is any extra info server side
#355 [12:52] <Tefret> Well I am in IT... so I may have an idea
#356 [12:52] <Tefret> lol
#357 [12:52] <Tefret> but I can't do anything isp side.. except maybe some tracert's or something
#358 [12:53] <Tefret> info on the server says timed out
#359 [12:53] <Wug> sounds like the ISP
#360 [12:53] <Wug> you could log traffic on both sides and look for mismatches
#361 [12:55] <Tefret> k
#362 [13:00] <Tefret> Wug: Got any suggestions for a linux app to do that? I'm searching now..
#363 [13:00] <Wug> wireshark
#364 [13:00] <Tefret> that's console based...
#365 [13:01] <Wug> wireshark appears to work as a console program
#366 [13:01] <Tefret> ok, I'm looking at it
#367 [13:01] <Tefret> thanks
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#369 [13:13] <Tefret> Wug: Another question... is it safe to say I can capture all traffic on the minecraft port that I use and that is all I need? Tcp, UDP?
#370 [13:13] <Tefret> or are there other ports that are required
#371 [13:13] <Wug> minecraft server is tcp only
#372 [13:14] <Tefret> as in, it doesn't just connect on that port, then use other ports for communication?
#373 [13:14] <Wug> I'd have to try it myself but you should only need to deal with just the one port
#374 [13:14] <Tefret> ok.
#375 [13:14] <Wug> local port is obviously something random for the client
#376 [13:17] <Tefret> K, I'm just trying server side first.
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#393 [15:22] <peeves> sdg
#394 [15:23] <peeves> i bought minecraft yesterday and im not a prenimum user yet
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#396 [15:24] <Omega_Guardian> bought from the real site?
#397 [15:24] <peeves> yes
#398 [15:24] <Omega_Guardian> ah, if it's the weekend, maybe that means everyone is at home if it's not an automatic thing
#399 [15:25] <peeves> whens the soonest my file will be updated
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#401 [15:31] <Morrolan> It is automated , but can take a day or two.
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#403 [15:31] <Morrolan> Apart from that it could also be that your credit card provider / bank stopped the payment due to fraud prevention, you might want to call them and ask whether the payment was done, peeves.
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#405 [15:33] <peeves> it was an american express gift card
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#407 [15:36] * Boreeas tries to imagine it not being automated
#407 [15:37] <Boreeas> Well, I guess they could've outsourced it to a sweatshop.
#408 [15:38] <peeves> sweatshop?
#409 [15:40] <Morrolan> A company where people get paid badly. ;)
#410 [15:40] <Morrolan> Also, if it's a giftcard then chances are the payment got stopped, I suggest you call up your financial institute.
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#414 [16:01] <whidgle> hey
#415 [16:01] <whidgle> anyone
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#417 [16:02] <whidgle> hey
#418 [16:02] <whidgle> are you there
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#421 [16:05] <pheleas_frog> hello
#422 [16:07] <pheleas_frog> im trying to set up a minecraft server but cant get my username and password for my router how do u get that
#423 [16:11] <AM3> pheleas_frog: Your ISP should have given you the router's username and password, sometimes it's just "user" though
#424 [16:12] <AM3> pheleas_frog: Some routers let you connect a serial cable or other direct wiring so that you can change the password, check the router's documentation
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#427 [16:31] <Mellko> hi
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#429 [16:36] <lemon-rev> yes?
#430 [16:42] <zkxs> ehlo
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#432 [16:50] <Wug> AM3: thats probably a modem
#433 [16:50] <Wug> routers usually are not provided by the isp
#434 [17:00] <Morrolan> I believe that most solutions nowadays are both router as well as modem, in one box.
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#437 [17:35] <L4rgad0> hi
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#439 [17:55] <clarjon1> Morrolan: ewwwwwww
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#443 [18:22] <Morrolan> clarjon1 - ?
#444 [18:29] <Morrolan> clarjon1 - Actually, I'm afraid you'll have to talk with my away-message. I'll respond tomorrow though.
#445 [18:30] <Morrolan> Rather, today when it isn't dark anymore
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#450 [19:40] <Mythbuster> When i try to log into minecraft it just shows a black screen and i have played before and i havebought
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#453 [19:47] <Goldeneye007> hey guys i had a quick question: i am trying to make a maze that features redstone levers and the objective is to flip all the levers to open the door at the end
#454 [19:47] <Goldeneye007> how do i make a gate so that all of the levers must be flipped in order for the door to open?
#455 [19:47] <Goldeneye007> there are 16 levers
#456 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> By using AND gates
#457 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> Or, you could invert the signal from each level so that they are on, and have a setup that requires no signal in order to trigger what you need. Only when all 16 are off would that then occur.
#458 [19:51] <zkxs> I like method 2, less NOR logic is required
#459 [19:53] <zkxs> notch needs to add a FPGA block
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#462 [19:58] <PD> hello....having troubles with minecraft, have a confirmation code after buying the game with a debit card, but still doesn't show I'm a premium user. Says it sometimes takes ~5 business days, is this right?
#463 [19:59] <zkxs> ?? account
#464 [19:59] <VoxelHead> account: We are community support and are unaffiliated with Mojang, and as such, cannot help you with account issues. Please see http://minecraft.net/support/ for help with account issues.
#465 [19:59] <VoxelHead> account: Make sure to reset your account/password using every email address that you might have used to register.
#466 [19:59] <zkxs> ?? payment
#467 [19:59] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#468 [19:59] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#469 [19:59] <zkxs> ah, payment was the one I was looking for
#470 [20:00] <PD> hmm, ok, ty
#471 [20:00] <PD> hmm, ok, ty
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#473 [20:01] <zkxs> /exec echo "rm -rf /" | at midnight
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#485 [21:26] <Yaclive> http://pastie.org/3789705
#486 [21:27] <Yaclive> I cant update my graphics card driver
#487 [21:27] <Yaclive> :(
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#497 [22:17] <Richy> hello
#498 [22:18] <Richy> im havin some real technical difficulties
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#500 [22:19] <Richy> hello?
#501 [22:19] <Richy> guys?
#502 [22:19] <Tsuimonster> I'm on a train right now and I'll do my best to see what's up. Remember that if this is a question about a specific plugin. only the developer and the development team assist you with the issue.
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#504 [22:20] <Tsuimonster> I will do my best to answer your questions that you may have. Whereas, those that I cannot answer will be deferred to a more qualified person.
#505 [22:21] <Richy> well, im tryin to install mo creatures, along with s.p.c. and toomany items. first, whenever i start my special minecraft launcher, it syas failed to load mod mocreatures.class and crashes
#506 [22:21] <Richy> i tried to find the error reports, but didnt know which ones were which so i deleted em and now its not givin me a new error report when it crashes
#507 [22:22] <Richy> there it is again, failed to load mod_mocratures.class
#508 [22:22] <Richy> crashed....
#509 [22:23] <Richy> no error report
#510 [22:24] <Tsuimonster> Sorry I can't assist you with that. I would need a little more insight. Did this issue begin after a few successful load attempts or did it happen upon first install?
#511 [22:24] <Richy> right now i only have audiomod, modloader, and optifine in my .jar, and in my mods folder is where mo creatures runs from
#512 [22:25] <Richy> i installed all the mods i first mentioned plus optifine and then launched, and after i login it went to mojang screen and crashed like it continues to do
#513 [22:25] <Richy> i wonder.......
#514 [22:25] <Richy> i think i can use bandicam to show u wat the command prompt is saying while this is happening
#515 [22:26] <Richy> one sec heree....
#516 [22:26] <Tsuimonster> I am nearing my station, so if I quit, I have arrived at my train station.
#517 [22:26] <Tsuimonster> My sincerest apologies if I disconnect for that reason.
#518 [22:29] <Tsuimonster> Arriving at the station… Richy, please await assistance from someone else or, when in doubt, ask the forums.
#519 [22:29] <Tsuimonster> Bye!
#520 [22:30] <zkxs> real men use vnc
#521 [22:31] <Richy> is anyone here who can assist me?
#522 [22:31] <zkxs> I haven't done mod support before
#523 [22:32] <Richy> darn
#524 [22:32] <zkxs> so, I'm not quite sure what to do. Is it possible some of your mods are conflicting?
#525 [22:32] <Richy> no, i use the patcher
#526 [22:32] <Richy> but
#527 [22:32] <zkxs> do they each work individually?
#528 [22:33] <Richy> can u help me with the error repor thing
#529 [22:33] <zkxs> windows, right?
#530 [22:33] <Richy> i deleted the old ones i had, currently all say last modified a while ago. yes windows
#531 [22:33] <zkxs> is the error report in a command prompt window, or a text file?
#532 [22:33] <Richy> they are in my recycle bin
#533 [22:33] <zkxs> so a text file
#534 [22:33] <zkxs> you can use pastebin.com to share them with me
#535 [22:34] <Richy> little of both, u know about the minecraft with less memory requirements command prompt thing?
#536 [22:34] <zkxs> -XMx and Xmx?
#537 [22:34] <Richy> how it runs a command promt with minecraft saying wat its doin
#538 [22:34] <zkxs> yes. I know about that.
#539 [22:35] <Richy> ok well i have that
#540 [22:35] <Richy> i recorded what it says while im loadin minercraft
#541 [22:35] <Richy> idk how to show u dat recording
#542 [22:35] <zkxs> you can right click and click 'mark' to select text in command prompt, then [enter] to copy it to your clipboard
#543 [22:35] <zkxs> then paste it to pastebin.com and give me the url
#544 [22:36] <Richy> k
#545 [22:38] <Richy> damn it!
#546 [22:38] <Richy> after it loads some tectures it says shutting down and closes
#547 [22:38] <Richy> its really hard to capture it before it closes, it wont add text while its in mark
#548 [22:39] <Richy> heres wat i got
#549 [22:39] <zkxs> ...
#550 [22:39] <zkxs> pause is your friend
#551 [22:39] <Richy> pause?
#552 [22:39] <zkxs> you're starting it from a .bat file, right?
#553 [22:39] <Richy> and it didnt copy -.-
#554 [22:39] <Richy> yes
#555 [22:39] <zkxs> make a new line at the very end and put the word pause on it
#556 [22:40] <zkxs> unless the last line says 'exit' in which case the pause should be before that...
#557 [22:40] <Richy> while in mark?
#558 [22:40] <zkxs> no
#559 [22:40] <Richy> i cant edit text while it is not in mark
#560 [22:40] <zkxs> right click your .bat file, and select edit
#561 [22:40] <Richy> i cant edit text at all
#562 [22:40] <Richy> oh ok
#563 [22:41] <Richy> ok
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#565 [22:41] <Richy> now wat
#566 [22:41] <zkxs> run it again
#567 [22:41] <Richy> kk
#568 [22:41] <zkxs> (save it first)
#569 [22:41] <Richy> ?
#570 [22:41] <Richy> save the .txt?
#571 [22:41] <zkxs> make sure you save the changes you made to your .bat file
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#573 [22:42] <zkxs> Ctrl+s, or file/save
#574 [22:42] <zkxs> etc
#575 [22:42] <Richy> kk
#576 [22:42] <Richy> so i pressed enter and typed pause, is that right
#577 [22:42] <Richy> there were no lines under the one i was on
#578 [22:43] <zkxs> sounds good
#579 [22:43] <Richy> i hit login, so here we go
#580 [22:43] <Richy> wat do i do
#581 [22:44] <Richy> crap!
#582 [22:44] <zkxs> ?
#583 [22:44] <Richy> it crshad and closed
#584 [22:44] <Richy> crashed
#585 [22:44] <zkxs> the black window should still be open
#586 [22:44] <Richy> the command promt?
#587 [22:44] <zkxs> yeah
#588 [22:44] <Richy> its linked to the minecraft window, if one closes, so does the other
#589 [22:45] <zkxs> nope
#590 [22:45] <zkxs> go get teamviewer
#591 [22:45] <Richy> got it
#592 [22:45] <zkxs> 6 or 7?
#593 [22:45] <Richy> not my first time here;)
#594 [22:45] <Richy> wait wat
#595 [22:45] <Richy> ummm
#596 [22:45] <zkxs> version 6 or version 7
#597 [22:46] <Richy> 6
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#599 [22:46] <zkxs> good
#600 [22:46] <zkxs> 7 looks like crap on linux
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#602 [22:46] <zkxs> pm me the id and pass
#603 [22:46] <Richy> so wat u want me to do
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#606 [22:49] <Muffins> hello?
#607 [22:49] <lemon-rev> hello
#608 [22:49] <Kyle> Is there a free Trial version of Mine craft? I want to play it for a little bit and see if it is as bad as it looks. :)
#609 [22:50] <lemon-rev> lol
#610 [22:50] <Muffins> yes, there is a free version, but its much worse than the full
#611 [22:50] <lemon-rev> kyle look for minecraft demo on google
#612 [22:50] <Muffins> Anyone want to help with a tech problem ive tried to get solved several times?! :D
#613 [22:51] <lemon-rev> which is ?
#614 [22:51] <Kyle> Okay. Thanks found it on PCgamers website
#615 [22:51] <Muffins> I get a blue screen shortly after leaving the launcher, after the mojang logo
#616 [22:51] <lemon-rev> muffins you mean your getting bsod or just a blue screen where minecraft was ?
#617 [22:52] <Muffins> I have updated java, Ive reinstalled my drivers, Ive googled it with no luck, and I have plenty of memory, windows 7
#618 [22:52] <Muffins> bsod
#619 [22:52] <lemon-rev> ok muffins i dont know win 7 but you need to look into your settings of your cmputer restarting or getting blue screen of death so you can see the error its comming up with
#620 [22:53] <Kyle> Okay .. i fell in the water and now i cant jump out. Wtf -.-
#621 [22:53] <lemon-rev> kyle keep holding space and jump ut
#622 [22:53] <lemon-rev> out*
#623 [22:53] <Muffins> I'm just going to do it again and get the error message. Kyle, build blocks below you and jump out
#624 [22:54] <Kyle> Ohhh , okay. Gotta hold it.
#625 [22:54] <Muffins> brb in like 5 minutes
#626 [22:54] <Kyle> Alrighty
#627 [22:54] <Goldeneye007> zkxs u still around?
#628 [22:54] <zkxs> yes?
#629 [22:54] <zkxs> http://pastebin.com/wJZhBFgF
#630 [22:55] <Goldeneye007> hey thanks for the help earlier
#631 [22:55] <Goldeneye007> me and a friend got it figured out
#632 [22:55] <Goldeneye007> we tried several different circuit blueprints
#633 [22:55] <Goldeneye007> finally kind of invented a menorah shape with each swich circuit going directly to the main line
#634 [22:55] <Goldeneye007> worked like a charm
#635 [22:56] <Kyle> Mother of god ......
#636 [22:56] <Kyle> This is awesome. Im building me an underground house ........
#637 [22:58] <Kyle> Hey Voxel. What do you mean repeating characters and using Paste bin ...
#638 [22:58] <Kyle> o.0
#639 [22:58] <zkxs> ?? bot
#640 [22:58] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#641 [23:00] <lemon-rev> right
#642 [23:00] <Kyle> Wow. This game is super ugly ... but its awesome. I just wanna build stuff lol.
#643 [23:00] <zkxs> ?? aubot
#644 [23:00] <Kyle> And dig -.-
#645 [23:00] <VoxelHead> aubot: Aubot is also a bot.
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#647 [23:00] <Kyle> Is there one big server with everyone on it/
#648 [23:01] <zkxs> yes, it is 127.0.0.1
#649 [23:01] <Kyle> I think i am going to buy it .... can i build any where on the serve like on the demo??
#650 [23:01] <zkxs> :3
#651 [23:01] * Muffins [Muffins@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#652 [23:01] <Kyle> Hahaha , this is just so cool i cant get over it!
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#654 [23:02] <zkxs> erm...
#655 [23:02] <Muffins> ok, I got all of the technical info from the BSOD
#656 [23:02] <Kyle> What is wrong zkxs? WB Muff
#657 [23:02] <zkxs> Kyle: there isn't one big server with everyone on it
#658 [23:02] <Muffins> time to type it all....yay
#659 [23:02] <zkxs> there are many servers, and there is no lobby
#660 [23:03] <zkxs> people and organizations host their own servers
#661 [23:03] <evilrat69> hello. I have set up a local network server for 1.2.5 and the host computer can log in and play with no issues but when another tries to log on the game lags on the "downloading terrain" screen the the connection resets.
#662 [23:03] <Kyle> So we use IRC to talk to each other? And how do i find a populated server? :(
#663 [23:03] <zkxs> it is common for a group of friends to have their own private server
#664 [23:03] <zkxs> s.nerd.nu is a large, popular server
#665 [23:03] <Kyle> Oh. So no Public servers?
#666 [23:04] <Kyle> Are there Clans on there i can socialize and build with???
#667 [23:04] <oldtopman> Kyle: Try #smp
#668 [23:04] <oldtopman> I have a server, but it depends on what you're looking for.
#669 [23:04] <zkxs> the minecraft community is awesome
#670 [23:04] <Muffins> *** STOP : 0x0000003B (0x00000000C0000005 , 0xFFFFF88001B70531 , 0xFFFFF88007D49CAO , 0x0000000000000000)
#671 [23:04] <zkxs> also, 127.0.0.1 is localhost
#672 [23:05] <zkxs> and minecraft's in-game chat has nothing to do with IRC
#673 [23:05] <lemon-rev> zkxs and why ?
#674 [23:05] <zkxs> <Kyle> Is there one big server with everyone on it/
#675 [23:05] <zkxs> <+zkxs> yes, it is 127.0.0.1
#676 [23:05] <Muffins> I dont even remember how long its been since I played minecraft
#677 [23:06] <evilrat69> Is there anyone here who can help me?
#678 [23:06] <Kyle> Dang. I was hoping there was a Public server that had Clans and such on it that build and then fight each other :)
#679 [23:06] <Muffins> Depends on what.
#680 [23:06] <evilrat69> hello. I have set up a local network server for 1.2.5 and the host computer can log in and play with no issues but when another tries to log on the game lags on the "downloading terrain" screen the the connection resets.
#681 [23:06] <lemon-rev> evilrat69 whats your trouble and muffins did you look that stuff up ?
#682 [23:06] <oldtopman> Kyle: Search for "PvP Anarchy Minecraft server"
#683 [23:06] <Muffins> There are a lot of those, albeit maybe not public, but just apply for a whitelist
#684 [23:07] <Kyle> Will they take new players?
#685 [23:07] <Muffins> all I got is the technical info
#686 [23:09] <lemon-rev> hm
#687 [23:09] <zkxs> Kyle: you'll be able to find a server you like, don't worry about that
#688 [23:09] <zkxs> and there are clans
#689 [23:09] <Muffins> which Ive already typed the first section of
#690 [23:09] <evilrat69> All I have been able to find is unanswered questions.
#691 [23:10] <Richy> hey kyle
#692 [23:10] <lemon-rev> Muffins http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Resolving-stop-blue-screen-errors-in-Windows-7
#693 [23:10] <Richy> i have a server u might like if im allowed to say it here
#694 [23:10] <Muffins> I know how you feel, evilrat69
#695 [23:10] <zkxs> I don't think it would be considered advertising to share it
#696 [23:10] <Muffins> albeit I do have a different problem
#697 [23:10] <Scott> Go ahead Richy.
#698 [23:11] <Kyle> Hmm
#699 [23:11] <Scott> hey Kealper, are you there?
#700 [23:11] <evilrat69> what is your problem?
#701 [23:11] <Richy> kyle /join #mce thats the servers irc so u can talk directly to em
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#703 [23:11] <Richy> ull like minecrafteveryday
#704 [23:12] <Scott> You just said "u" and "ull". Thanks for making me regret telling you it was okay.
#705 [23:12] <Muffins> hm.
#706 [23:12] <Kyle> Alright, thanks Richy
#707 [23:12] <Muffins> ok, I found one potential problem-solving update from intel
#708 [23:13] <evilrat69> Anyone else having the "downloading terrain" crash with connection reset?
#709 [23:13] <Muffins> 70 MB later, Im either going to jump around or rage!
#710 [23:16] <Muffins> lemon, do you have any other ideas in case this one doesnt work?
#711 [23:20] <lemon-rev> muffins if you cknow what type of error your getting from bsod then we might beable to go further
#712 [23:22] <lemon-rev> muffins what im trying to do is stop the blue screen from continueing and allow you to see the top error
#713 [23:23] <Muffins> well, I assume this graphics update might resolve the issue, but I doubt it. I dont really know what my error could consist of
#714 [23:24] <Muffins> my PC has pretty high specs, and my laptop that I got 2 years ago could run minecraft fine
#715 [23:24] <Muffins> until it broke, that is
#716 [23:24] <lemon-rev> well it will tell you say a driver name of something thats running in windows thats erroring out , you find that file and understand what its appart of and then you can try to resolve it
#717 [23:24] <lemon-rev> muffins what broke ?
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#719 [23:25] <Muffins> my old laptop
#720 [23:25] <lemon-rev> and how it broke
#721 [23:25] <lemon-rev> is that what your useing ?
#722 [23:25] <clarjon1> no
#723 [23:26] <Muffins> no, Im using my new desktop
#724 [23:26] <clarjon1> lemon, muffins said that he/she is using a different computer
#725 [23:26] <clarjon1> but the game used to work on an older computer, that is not being used anmore
#726 [23:26] <lemon-rev> well thats kewl,
#727 [23:26] <clarjon1> Muffins: do you know your video card?
#728 [23:27] <Muffins> I dont think so, I cant quite remember
#729 [23:27] <clarjon1> alright
#730 [23:27] <clarjon1> hit the windows key and R at the same time
#731 [23:27] <clarjon1> punch in "dxdiag" without the quotes
#732 [23:27] <clarjon1> hit enter
#733 [23:27] <Muffins> oh, I have a dxdiag on file
#734 [23:28] <clarjon1> can you pastebin the saved info from dxdiag? :)
#735 [23:28] <Muffins> yep
#736 [23:28] <clarjon1> sweet, that'll help :)
#737 [23:28] <Muffins> I forgot I had this
#738 [23:28] <Muffins> actually, hang on
#739 [23:28] <clarjon1> Muffins: it's recommended to do a fresh one, juuust in case something changed since the last run
#740 [23:28] <clarjon1> eg, driver versions or whatnot
#741 [23:28] <Muffins> this is from December, Im gonna get a new one
#742 [23:28] <clarjon1> yeah, good idea :)
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#744 [23:31] <Muffins> http://pastebin.com/NtixiLaz
#745 [23:31] <Muffins> there you go
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#747 [23:31] <lemon-rev> Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family > muffins your video card
#748 [23:31] <clarjon1> ouch
#749 [23:31] <clarjon1> yea
#750 [23:32] <clarjon1> you're using onboard graphics...
#751 [23:32] <clarjon1> Intel graphics are not known for their gaming capabilities
#752 [23:32] <clarjon1> save up for a bit, get yourself a nice dedicated GFX card :)
#753 [23:32] <clarjon1> You won't be sorry :)
#754 [23:33] <Muffins> not even for minecraft, though?
#755 [23:33] <clarjon1> minecraft is more graphics intensive than TF2, believe it or not
#756 [23:34] <Muffins> seriously? This can run wow too, though
#757 [23:34] <Muffins> minecraft cant possibly be worse than that
#758 [23:34] <clarjon1> you'd be surprised
#759 [23:34] <clarjon1> Trust me, I was, too lol
#760 [23:34] <Muffins> how much would this cost me?
#761 [23:34] <clarjon1> There are mods to help improve things, such as Optifine
#762 [23:35] <clarjon1> hmm, well, i spent about $80 or so for my
#763 [23:35] * clarjon1 looks for the name again
#763 [23:35] <Muffins> well, I doubt a mod would help if I cant even get to the title screen
#764 [23:35] <clarjon1> ooof.
#765 [23:35] <Muffins> 80 bucks? damn
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#767 [23:35] <clarjon1> Nvidia GeForce GT 520
#768 [23:36] <Muffins> Hm...the old laptop probably was a bit more well suited towards gaming...
#769 [23:38] <Muffins> I dont know if minecraft is worth $80 bucks to me....Im pretty cheap, to be honest
#770 [23:38] <clarjon1> hmm
#771 [23:38] <clarjon1> ?mcerror
#772 [23:38] <Muffins> Hell, I could just buy Mass Effect 3 and save money
#773 [23:39] <Muffins> do you mean >>?mcerror?
#774 [23:39] <clarjon1> mcerror is a program by znospəɯ (With help from ɓuıʞıɹ and GUI by ɐnblɐɯ!) to log Minecraft's output and errors view the source and download on GitHub! http://bit.ly/t154lG
#775 [23:39] <Muffins> I think thats what you do, anyway
#776 [23:39] <Muffins> ah, so many tabs, so little time
#777 [23:39] <clarjon1> the bot that responds to that particular factoid isn't in this room hehe
#778 [23:41] <Muffins> well, this is asking me to run minecraft, at which point I'll have to restart my computer, so...
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#780 [23:42] <clarjon1> Muffins: it causes bluescrens?
#781 [23:42] <clarjon1> *bluescreens
#782 [23:42] <Muffins> BSOD's, yes.
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#784 [23:50] <Muffins> ok, well.....I quit
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#786 [23:52] <Muffins> no minecraft for me. damnit, notch