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#7 [00:27] <RedefinedClank> Should i sleep
#8 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> sleep
#9 [00:28] <RedefinedClank> yell at me.
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#13 [00:34] <Richy> hey zkxs
#14 [00:34] <zkxs> hey
#15 [00:34] <Richy> fixed it
#16 [00:34] <Richy> i foud the prob
#17 [00:34] <Richy> and im a f-ing retard for it
#18 [00:34] <zkxs> <Richy_> i feel so stupid right now i fucking forgot guiapi and cusommobspawners! thats why it wasnt working
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#21 [00:35] <zkxs> lol
#22 [00:35] <Richy> .......
#23 [00:35] <Richy> ok
#24 [00:35] <ShaRose> saw that coming
#25 [00:35] <Richy> welll ya
#26 [00:35] <ShaRose> :V
#27 [00:35] <Richy> no...
#28 [00:36] <Richy> it just crashed when i loaded the workld
#29 [00:36] <zkxs> lol Richy , when you say someones name in a channel they are in their client notifies them
#30 [00:36] <zkxs> when you said "i dont think i should tell zkxs yetr" I got beeped at so I went and read what had happened :P
#31 [00:37] <Richy> man i cant believe i forgot those
#32 [00:37] <zkxs> your other mods require them?
#33 [00:38] <Richy> well my minecraft crashed when i loaded that world that hasnt been loaded yet, see when i create a world it gets stuck at saving chunks near the end and then it wont move so i just restart minecraft and it ususally works
#34 [00:38] <Richy> no
#35 [00:38] <Richy> i was gonna redownload it and i saw other mods needed and saw the other two
#36 [00:38] <Richy> then i facedesked
#37 [00:38] <Richy> hard
#38 [00:39] <Richy> hey, can u read this command promt thing
#39 [00:40] <zkxs> nope, bedtime
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#42 [00:56] <Richy> hello?
#43 [00:56] <Richy> anyone here
#44 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> sure
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#49 [01:26] <lq187away> FAtal error 4? null?
#50 [01:27] <|Kiikun|> whats the rest of the error
#51 [01:33] <lq187away> sorry
#52 [01:33] <lq187away> i was doing some work
#53 [01:33] <lq187away> i go to update and it interupts saying
#54 [01:34] <lq187away> fatal error occured(4) null
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#56 [01:39] <lq187away> it is apparently a common error that i don't know how to find the answer too, it's burried under so many people asking the same question or their isn't an answr
#57 [01:51] <lq187away> ????
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#59 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> lq187away - Still there?
#60 [02:06] <lq187away> yea
#61 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> lq187away - Could you tell me what Antivirus you use?
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#63 [02:08] <Shillykins> Why my purchased minecraft code is not working ~?
#64 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Shillykins - Where did you buy them from?
#65 [02:09] <Shillykins> https://www.minecraft.net/
#66 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Did you buy a gift code using your account?
#67 [02:09] <Shillykins> Yes.
#68 [02:09] <lq187away> sorry grey
#69 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Is the gift code listed in your profile at minecraft.net?
#70 [02:09] <lq187away> got a lot going on here at the house
#71 [02:09] <Shillykins> Check this out.
#72 [02:09] <lq187away> i'm using norton anti virus from way back in the day
#73 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> lq187away - error 4s are usually caused by an antivirus or security program blocking minecraft from downloading its files, that's the first thing I'd check
#74 [02:11] <lq187away> hmm ok
#75 [02:11] <lq187away> i think its norton 2001 haha
#76 [02:12] <lq187away> i've tried disabling it a few times
#77 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Do you use anything else other than Norton?
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#79 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> AVG's been known to do this quite a lot, same with Avira, as well as many other AVs
#80 [02:12] <lq187away> yeah i have AV turned off
#81 [02:13] <lq187away> i disable my firewall and my norton
#82 [02:13] <lq187away> apparently thats not enough
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#84 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Do you happen to have AVG installed as well?
#85 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Or is it just norton?
#86 [02:13] <lq187away> ya
#87 [02:13] <lq187away> both
#88 [02:13] <lq187away> uninstall avg?
#89 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Go into AVG's options, turn off the "linkscanner" module
#90 [02:14] <GreyVulpine> Then try minecraft. This has been a frequent cause
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#92 [02:15] <lq187away> thanks
#93 [02:15] <lq187away> ill be doing that now
#94 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> It works now?
#95 [02:15] <lq187away> im having system lag
#96 [02:15] <lq187away> ill let you know in a minute
#97 [02:15] * GreyVulpine nods
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#98 [02:18] <lq187away> my pc is acting up, i gotta reboot
#99 [02:18] <lq187away> i'll be back
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#101 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Sure thing
#102 [02:18] <cisrulez> Hello?
#103 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#104 [02:18] <cisrulez> Hi
#105 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Welcome.
#106 [02:18] <cisrulez> Can I ask you a question?
#107 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Ask away.
#108 [02:19] <cisrulez> Okay I'm trying to start my own server, I know all the procedures
#109 [02:19] <cisrulez> But I'm stuck on one thing
#110 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Alright, what would that be?
#111 [02:19] <cisrulez> hold on
#112 [02:19] <cisrulez> When I go to my router settings
#113 [02:19] <cisrulez> And I'm trying to add the port (25565) to the single port foward
#114 [02:19] <cisrulez> It wont save
#115 [02:20] <cisrulez> But I realized
#116 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> What are you port forwarding to?
#117 [02:20] <cisrulez> Hrm?
#118 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> What is the internal IP address of the computer hosting the server?
#119 [02:20] <cisrulez> the 192 one?
#120 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#121 [02:20] <cisrulez> yeah its 192.168.1.1
#122 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> That's the ip address of the router (usually)
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#124 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> What is the ip address of the computer running the MC server?
#125 [02:20] <cisrulez> I'm not sure
#126 [02:21] <cisrulez> Cause on my router
#127 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Are you at the computer running the MC server right now?
#128 [02:21] <SavvyJeff> cirrulez what your question?
#129 [02:21] <cisrulez> yes
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#131 [02:21] <cisrulez> I'm talking to Grey savvy
#132 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> cisrulez - What operating system is the computer running?
#133 [02:21] <cisrulez> Thanks though
#134 [02:21] <cisrulez> Vista :(
#135 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: cmd
#136 [02:21] <cisrulez> I konw to do ipconfig
#137 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. At the black command prompt, do: ipconfig /all
#138 [02:21] <cisrulez> Im on it already
#139 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Tell me the ipv4 address
#140 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Also, the computer name, if your router uses that instead
#141 [02:22] <TheJavaGuy> ?
#142 [02:22] <cisrulez> 192.168.1.100
#143 [02:22] <SavvyJeff> ok, if you trying to make your server public and you cannot connect from an external ip, you may need to set your computer as the routers dmz.
#144 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Don't ever suggest DMZ unless there's nothing else you can do
#145 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> It's very unsafe.
#146 [02:23] <cisrulez> ok
#147 [02:23] <SavvyJeff> maybe, unless your me and know how to secure your pc
#148 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Port forwarding only forwards the ports necessary, not your whole computer
#149 [02:23] <SavvyJeff> anyways
#150 [02:23] <cisrulez> Well I dont konw what to put for "To IP address"
#151 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> If you are savvy with it, fine. Don't suggest it to others who aren't as skilled as you
#152 [02:23] <cisrulez> That's the only option im stuck on atm
#153 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> cisrulez - To 192.168.1.100
#154 [02:23] <SavvyJeff> ok forgive me ya
#155 [02:23] <TheJavaGuy> cisrulez
#156 [02:23] <TheJavaGuy> whats the problem?
#157 [02:23] <cisrulez> Do I put 100 in there?
#158 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Yes cisrulez
#159 [02:23] <cisrulez> I put a 1 and then it said you cannot make it the same as your router IP
#160 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Right, you want 192.168.1.100, since that's the internal of the computer running the server
#161 [02:24] <cisrulez> yesssss
#162 [02:24] <cisrulez> it finally saved
#163 [02:24] <cisrulez> Okay guys I got it
#164 [02:24] * GreyVulpine nods
#164 [02:24] * GreyVulpine prods VoxelHead.
#164 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> Dang bot.
#165 [02:25] <cisrulez> wtf?
#166 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Should work now. Server running cisrulez?
#167 [02:25] <cisrulez> Yeah it's woring thanks a lot guys
#168 [02:25] <cisrulez> I'm out, peace.
#169 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Glad we could help. Take care
#170 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Glad we could help. Take care
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#174 [02:33] <SavvyJeff> is it normal to say [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?
#175 [02:34] <SavvyJeff> anyone there?
#176 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Pretty normal, unless your console is flooded with it
#177 [02:35] <SavvyJeff> just 3
#178 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> Then nothing to worry about
#179 [02:35] <SavvyJeff> also, i cant get my server to bind to an external ip's
#180 [02:36] <GreyVulpine> Do you have more than one NIC?
#181 [02:36] <SavvyJeff> yea
#182 [02:36] <SavvyJeff> one lan and one wlan
#183 [02:36] <SavvyJeff> it will bind localhost
#184 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> And with that, will only accept connections from localhost
#185 [02:37] <SavvyJeff> but im trying to get it to bind to savvyserver.hopto.org
#186 [02:37] <SavvyJeff> its a dns redirect
#187 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> 99% of the time, you leave server-ip blank, as a home user
#188 [02:37] <SavvyJeff> to my pc
#189 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> I understand that
#190 [02:37] <SavvyJeff> so like "serverip="
#191 [02:37] <GreyVulpine> That's when you go to savvyserver.hopto.org and set up a cname record
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#193 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> Er, sorry A record. pointing savvyserver.hopto.org to an ip address
#194 [02:39] <SavvyJeff> it is a record
#195 [02:39] <auscompgeek> you mean an A record?
#196 [02:39] <SavvyJeff> yea
#197 [02:40] <auscompgeek> I believe you're meant to set server-ip to an IP address if you do ever set it.
#198 [02:40] * GreyVulpine shakes
#198 [02:41] <auscompgeek> specifically one of your machine's local IP addresses
#199 [02:41] <auscompgeek> tell me I'm correct here GreyVulpine :/
#200 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> If you have multiple NICs, pulling in from external/public IP addresses, putting in server-ip will bind them to one NIC or the other. So you can set the MC server to only listen in from connections from one NIC
#201 [02:41] <SavvyJeff> grey, private chat pls
#202 [02:42] <GreyVulpine> ;check SavvyJeff
#203 [02:42] <WugBot> 24-159-4-181.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: SavvyJeff's Minecraft Server, Enjoy! (0/100)
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#208 [03:18] <jimakis98> hi
#209 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#210 [03:19] <jimakis98> i cant join to my server but i can join to all others servers
#211 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> What happens when you try to join your server?
#212 [03:20] <jimakis98> Download Terrain
#213 [03:20] <jimakis98> all other players can join !!!
#214 [03:20] <jimakis98> and i cant join from my second PC
#215 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Have you been able to join your server before at all?
#216 [03:21] <jimakis98> YES
#217 [03:21] <jimakis98> :s
#218 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, a corrupt player profile then. Go to your server, in the /world/players/ folder, you'll see a playername.dat file for your character. Delete or move it out, then reconnect
#219 [03:22] <jimakis98> ok thnx let me try it
#220 [03:22] <jimakis98> ooo ok
#221 [03:24] <jimakis98> ok i to join
#222 [03:25] <jimakis98> i cant and minecraft crashed
#223 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft crashed? Do you have an error report you can share with us via www.pastebin.com?
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#225 [03:28] <jimakis98> ohh i will Try without mods
#226 [03:31] <jimakis98> AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
#227 [03:36] <jimakis98> whyyyyyyy
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#230 [03:37] <SavvyJeff> is it possible to set the server's season?
#231 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> Biomes are chunk/region specific
#232 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> There's not really a 'season' flag for the whole server.
#233 [03:38] <SavvyJeff> um
#234 [03:38] <SavvyJeff> noob friendly plz
#235 [03:40] <GreyVulpine> Short answer, no. A map is made up of 16x16x256 blocks of land called "Chunks". Each chunk has a specific biome quality, whether it's cold/tundra, warm/forest, warm/jungle, hot/desert, wet/ocean, (I'm leaving out a few others).
#236 [03:41] <GreyVulpine> There's no one specific season flag that affects all chunks. It'll snow in the tundrea, but rain in the jungle at the same time.
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#238 [03:42] <SavvyJeff> ok thx
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#245 [04:54] <Brandy> Hi
#246 [04:54] <Brandy> May i please have some help?
#247 [04:55] <Brandy> How do i get a IRC channel that links to my server?! i really need this,.
#248 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> See http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/craftirc/files/
#249 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> or http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/monsterirc/
#250 [04:58] <Brandy> ok thankyou.
#251 [04:58] <Brandy> but
#252 [04:58] <Brandy> wait
#253 [04:59] <Brandy> ?
#254 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Both of those require a modded server called 'bukkit'
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#257 [05:10] <Brandy> i have bukkit...
#258 [05:10] <Brandy> dw about it, but thanks anyway
#259 [05:10] <Brandy> dw about it, but thanks anyway
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#278 [07:20] <gZen> Hello all
#279 [07:20] <gZen> I have an issue on Debian, running minecraft client
#280 [07:22] <gZen> The launcher say : "can't connect to minecraft.net" " notdownloaded", I bought the game, I can connect on minecraft.net, minecraft.net is up (i try since a week) and ialready played with this account on mandriva
#281 [07:22] <gZen> Does someone have an idea ?
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#283 [07:35] <DiskDaemon> gZen: you may want to ask again now
#284 [07:35] <gZen> Hello all
#285 [07:35] <gZen> I have an issue on Debian, running minecraft client
#286 [07:35] <gZen> The launcher say : "can't connect to minecraft.net" " notdownloaded", I bought the game, I can connect on minecraft.net, minecraft.net is up (i try since a week) and ialready played with this account on mandriva
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#288 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> If all else fails, contact can be made with Mojang at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#289 [07:40] <gZen> I just send a mail
#290 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> It can be a lengthy response time with that http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#291 [07:43] <gZen> I can imagine...
#292 [07:44] <DiskDaemon> So there's nobody here who might be able to offer some advice in regard to an "can't connect to minecraft.net" " notdownloaded" issue?
#293 [07:48] <AlmtyBob> disable your firewall or put your pc in the dmz?
#294 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> There may be a solution too at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/819475-need-help-cant-connect-to-minecraftnet-only-in-the-launcher/
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#298 [08:06] <Jammy> Just a quick question, was I mislead when someone told me that pumpkins let you stay under water a bit longer?
#299 [08:07] <DiskDaemon> pumpkins make it easier for you to see underwater
#300 [08:08] <Jammy> but don't effect time you can spend under? :(
#301 [08:08] <DiskDaemon> nope
#302 [08:08] <DiskDaemon> reeds and/or ladders can help there though. Especially reeds
#303 [08:08] <Jammy> aww, I like my thought that they were like a diving helm :P
#304 [08:08] <Jammy> you mean by standing in same block as them I take it?
#305 [08:09] <DiskDaemon> aye
#306 [08:09] <DiskDaemon> See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Pumpkin#Can.27t_drown
#307 [08:09] <Jammy> Ok, thanks :) Although I still think pumpkin helms should give you an extra 50% time under water or something :)
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#309 [08:35] <gZen> @DiskDeamon I'm trying to change my jre packages, thanks
#310 [08:36] <DiskDaemon> If you do find success, it might be useful for the thread to be updated with your situation, andwhat worked for you
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#312 [08:53] <rymate1234> Ok
#313 [08:53] <rymate1234> Just installed minecraft on Ubuntu 12.04 beta 64 bit
#314 [08:53] <rymate1234> I get this error http://pastebin.com/8z4HZjir
#315 [08:53] <rymate1234> help plz?
#316 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> "architecture word width mismatch" - that's one I haven't seen before
#317 [08:54] <rymate1234> ^
#318 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> How about this? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=126112
#319 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> Make a script with the following in it and use that script to launch the game.
#320 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/opt/java/jre/lib/amd64"
#321 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#322 [08:55] * DiskDaemon bows in shame to VoxelHead
#322 [08:56] <rymate1234> DiskDaemon, same error with that script
#323 [08:57] <DiskDaemon> What of the further advice from that page?
#324 [08:58] <DiskDaemon> Elsewhere it's sai that it's solved by installing Minecraft from the AUR - https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1055735#p1055735
#325 [08:59] <rymate1234> But I'm on ubuntu
#326 [08:59] <rymate1234> da hell is that supposed to help me
#327 [09:00] <rymate1234> eh
#328 [09:00] <DiskDaemon> ubuntu solutions - http://askubuntu.com/questions/100751/minecraft-in-jdk-1-7-0-u2-x64
#329 [09:01] <rymate1234> ok
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#331 [09:05] <rymate1234> gah
#332 [09:05] <rymate1234> I'll try installing ati / amd catalyst
#333 [09:10] <rymate1234> ok
#334 [09:11] <rymate1234> catalyst does nothing
#335 [09:11] * rymate1234 removes it
#335 [09:11] <Calinou> herp. AMD.
#336 [09:12] <gZen> My problem is still there after changing java packages and setting the clock... And my iptables is clean, so I'm gonna xait an answer from Mojang...
#337 [09:12] <gZen> wait *
#338 [09:14] <rymate1234> gZen, an answer from mojang?
#339 [09:14] <rymate1234> HA
#340 [09:14] <gZen> It seems it works on the internet
#341 [09:14] <gZen> I mean website
#342 [09:15] <gZen> Yes, I sent a mail
#343 [09:20] <rymate1234> lawl
#344 [09:20] <rymate1234> >assuming he will get a reply
#345 [09:21] <DiskDaemon> He's been notified that it can be a lengthy response time with that http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#346 [09:26] <rymate1234> well
#347 [09:26] <rymate1234> I have to congratulate minecraft
#348 [09:26] <rymate1234> I jsut tried to run it with jre6
#349 [09:26] <rymate1234> crashed x
#350 [09:27] <rymate1234> "sorry, the application 'java' has closed unexcectedly
#351 [09:27] <rymate1234> not kidding
#352 [09:27] <rymate1234> not kidding
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#356 [09:39] <rymate1234> ohai TestWugBot
#357 [09:43] * Wug has a new toy :>
#357 [09:44] <Grim_Reaper> Ew D:
#358 [09:44] <Grim_Reaper> What is it
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#361 [10:03] <Wizardau> Evening everyone - Can anyone tell me why I can play MC - Login to the URL but not change Skin in my game?
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#365 [10:28] <Randomnessss> RANDOM
#366 [10:28] <Randomnessss> RANDOM
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#369 [10:28] <Randomnessss> :P
#370 [10:28] <Morrolan> Uhu.
#371 [10:28] <Kaito> hai
#372 [10:28] <Randomnessss> Hey
#373 [10:29] <Randomnessss> DopeGhoti: GreyVulpine Iguana_ Kealper mollstam Opeth|Zzz Wug xales I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!
#374 [10:29] * Morrolan kicked Randomnessss from #minecrafthelp (Reason: andomnessss :Cut it)
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#376 [10:30] <Randomnessss> I'm sorry :(
#377 [10:30] <Randomnessss> I don't know what happened :S
#378 [10:30] <Morrolan> Yea, I assume your cat walked over your keyboard?
#379 [10:30] <Randomnessss> Nope :P
#380 [10:30] <Randomnessss> My hands walked over my keyboard
#381 [10:30] <Kaito> that's because Randomnessss /is/ the cat
#382 [10:30] <Randomnessss> :P
#383 [10:31] <Randomnessss> I'm a cat?
#384 [10:31] <Randomnessss> AWESOME!
#385 [10:31] <Randomnessss> Meow!!
#386 [10:31] <Randomnessss> Meeeeeeow!!!!!
#387 [10:31] <Kaito> i hate that this channel is for kids :P
#388 [10:31] <Kaito> inappropriate jokes must be made!
#389 [10:31] <Randomnessss> Is it for kids?
#390 [10:31] <Randomnessss> Awww, then I'm not welcome here :(
#391 [10:31] <Randomnessss> Because I'm a cat!!
#392 [10:31] <Randomnessss> :D
#393 [10:31] <Morrolan> It's for support, and most of the people who need support are the younger ones. *shrug*
#394 [10:31] <Kaito> right
#395 [10:32] <Kaito> Which is perfectly acceptable
#396 [10:32] <Randomnessss> Yep
#397 [10:32] <Kaito> I just have to restrain myself :P
#398 [10:32] <Randomnessss> Yepsididy
#399 [10:32] <Randomnessss> :P
#400 [10:32] <Morrolan> But according to some poll most of Minecraft's players are around 20 I believe.
#401 [10:32] <Kaito> Thats my age :P
#402 [10:32] <Randomnessss> Kaito: 63
#403 [10:32] <Morrolan> Oh, we're not as strict as #Minecraft with their whole pegi 13 crap I believe, Kaito. ;)
#404 [10:32] <Morrolan> Or, at the very least, I'm not. ;)
#405 [10:33] <Randomnessss> Kaito: 63% of all minecraftplayers are under 16
#406 [10:33] <Randomnessss> According to my randomness
#407 [10:33] <Randomnessss> :P
#408 [10:33] <Kaito> -.-
#409 [10:33] <Opeth|Zzz> Morrolan did you kick somebody that professed their love to me?
#410 [10:33] <Opeth|Zzz> :(
#411 [10:33] <Morrolan> Yes I did. :)
#412 [10:33] <Morrolan> SInce, well, none shall love you. :D
#413 [10:33] <Opeth|Zzz> It is a pain being worshipped and idolised at times.
#414 [10:33] <Randomnessss> I love you Morrolan :D
#415 [10:33] <Grim_Reaper> ...
#416 [10:34] <Grim_Reaper> Nobody steals my Morrolan ;-;
#417 [10:34] <Morrolan> Opeth|Zzz - Heh.
#418 [10:34] <Randomnessss> I love you too Opeth|Zzz :3
#419 [10:34] <Kaito> In other news, i made my own pulse limiter (something im very proud of, because i didn't copy it from somewhere else), and my comp fan seems to be spinning at mach 3
#420 [10:34] <Morrolan> oO
#421 [10:35] <Randomnessss> Well, I'll be off to my porn studio!
#422 [10:35] <Morrolan> We're speaking about a pulse-limiter in Minecraft you built, right?
#423 [10:35] <Randomnessss> Byeee!
#424 [10:35] <Morrolan> Enjoy.
#425 [10:35] <Kaito> the pulse limiter is 1x1x3 ^_^
#426 [10:35] <Kaito> Yes
#427 [10:35] <Kaito> er
#428 [10:35] <Kaito> 4
#429 [10:35] <Kaito> 4
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#431 [10:35] <Kaito> no
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#433 [10:35] <Kaito> I lied
#434 [10:35] <Kaito> i cant count
#435 [10:36] <Kaito> old habbits die hard
#436 [10:36] <Grim_Reaper> New habbits grow easy
#437 [10:36] <Morrolan> Just like trees.
#438 [10:37] <Grim_Reaper> o....o
#439 [10:37] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan likes trees
#440 [10:37] <Morrolan> Yes, it doesn't _really_ make sense, don't think about it too hard.
#441 [10:37] <Grim_Reaper> I wont ;-;
#442 [10:37] <Grim_Reaper> My mind already hurts from other things
#443 [10:38] <Morrolan> Drugs? D:
#444 [10:39] <Grim_Reaper> Nuu
#445 [10:40] <Boreeas> The day #minecrafthelp became #minecraft
#446 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> Like the fact that most blocks in Minecraft dont fall from gravity
#447 [10:40] <Wug> wtf
#448 [10:40] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Nah, most of your discussion is still remotely related to Minecraft.
#449 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#450 [10:40] <Grim_Reaper> Oh wug is alive?
#451 [10:41] <Morrolan> Dunno.
#452 [10:41] * Morrolan pokes Wug
#452 [10:41] * Grim_Reaper pokes the body of Wug
#452 [10:41] * Wug is poke
#452 [10:41] * Grim_Reaper hands Morrolan a pointy stick
#452 [10:42] <Morrolan> Okay, Wug does react to stimuli, his chance of being alive just increased.
#453 [10:42] <Morrolan> Next, does he reproduce?
#454 [10:42] * Wug dissolves into acid
#454 [10:42] <Morrolan> Uh oh.
#455 [10:43] <Morrolan> I don't think that's supposed to happen.
#456 [10:43] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#457 [10:43] <Grim_Reaper> I dont think theres any wugs left ._.
#458 [10:43] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan you just killed an endangered creature!
#459 [10:44] <TheNoodle> :o
#460 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#461 [10:44] <Morrolan> Kind of related, I'm sure there's some description by the SCP foundation of a being on which disolves into acid when poked. ^^
#462 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> ..
#463 [10:44] <Morrolan> Also, I did what? Sheesh, that is inconvenient.
#464 [10:44] <Grim_Reaper> If you find a link. gimmie \o/
#465 [10:45] <Morrolan> Doesn't look good on one's CV.
#466 [10:45] <Morrolan> Yea, will do. ;)
#467 [10:45] <Grim_Reaper> I dont think that wug even managed to sing once to reproduce
#468 [10:45] <Wug> blbthbhtlb
#469 [10:45] <Grim_Reaper> It's alive! AlIVE!!!
#470 [10:45] <Grim_Reaper> Wow #minecrafthelp really has changed >_> *shushes*
#471 [10:46] <Morrolan> Hey, we do need to have something to do when there's none needing help, eh? ;)
#472 [10:46] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#473 [10:46] <Kaito> *Epic newbie connects* sup guyz so i have a queestion about minecraft so when i start the game up im in this world and i cant get a block can anyone help me this is garbage
#474 [10:47] <Wug> tblbtbhltlbhl
#475 [10:47] <Morrolan> Hand me the poke stick please, Grim_Reaper.
#476 [10:47] * Grim_Reaper gives Morrolan the poke stick
#476 [10:47] * Morrolan pokes Kaito with said stick
#476 [10:47] <Grim_Reaper> Kaito have you tried holding umm.
#477 [10:47] <Grim_Reaper> The left mouse button?
#478 [10:48] <Morrolan> Now, Kait, do the same thing with your mouse button I just did with you. :D
#479 [10:48] <Morrolan> Kaito*
#480 [10:48] <Morrolan> Haven't had one of these guys in a while htough.
#481 [10:48] <Kaito> lol
#482 [10:48] <Morrolan> though*
#483 [10:48] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#484 [10:48] <Kaito> Oh god. That was my first reaction when i was playing minecraft
#485 [10:48] <Grim_Reaper> Im not sure what to do for my birthday tomorrow >_>
#486 [10:48] <Kaito> I was spamming the button, and not holding
#487 [10:48] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#488 [10:48] <Morrolan> Hehe.
#489 [10:48] <Kaito> Happy birthdya Grim_Reaper
#490 [10:48] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks lol
#491 [10:49] <Kaito> Anyway, gotta go. Bye bye
#492 [10:49] <Grim_Reaper> Byes
#493 [10:50] <Grim_Reaper> Lol I find kinda amusing. I can just picture people getting so annoyed. Spamming the left mouse button and wondering why they cant get any blocks
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#509 [13:19] <CDJ445544> hey, guys! i need some redstone help. so, i know that you can use repeaters to edit when the piston opens, but how can i edit the amount of time a piston is open for?
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#511 [13:22] <CDJ445544> ?
#512 [13:24] <CDJ445544> it would help if someone would actually respond...
#513 [13:26] <peru> it sure would
#514 [13:29] <CDJ445544> lol
#515 [13:34] <zkxs> so, you want to press a button, a piston opens for 10 seconds, then it closes?
#516 [13:34] <Boreeas> I'm no good with redstone, but if you put a repeater with an extended delay before the piston, it should take longer to pull back
#517 [13:35] <Boreeas> Of course that also means it takes longer to extend
#518 [13:35] <zkxs> CDJ445544: are you on a server? I have a pretty cool technique I could show you
#519 [13:37] <zkxs> it would sure help if you actually responded
#520 [13:40] <zkxs> my method requires two additional (nonsticky) pistons, two glass, and some repeaters
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#522 [13:42] <CDJ445544> ok?
#523 [13:42] <CDJ445544> how does it work, zkxs? maybe a screenshot?
#524 [13:49] <CDJ445544> oh sorry zkxs, i didnt see ur message asking if i was on a server.
#525 [13:49] <CDJ445544> yeah, i am
#526 [13:49] <CDJ445544> am i able to PM you?
#527 [13:49] <CDJ445544> its a private server...
#528 [13:56] <Calinou> derp, I *could* answer, I know how it's done. :(
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#531 [13:57] <superkabii> Anyone know offhand the character limit for a URL before it becomes cut off?
#532 [13:57] <Calinou> 55 characters
#533 [13:57] <Calinou> IIRC
#534 [13:58] <Calinou> this seems to be like 100 characters.
#535 [13:58] <Calinou> just tested
#536 [13:58] <Calinou> typing more results in the player being kicked
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#538 [14:01] <Omen> Is there any way to turn down the speed of which blocks are laid. No matter how fast I right click it lays 2 blocks quite often.
#539 [14:02] <Calinou> Omen, not without using mods.
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#541 [14:02] <Calinou> it's usually due to slow performance. you may try Optifine though
#542 [14:02] <Omen> Well, it sure is frustrating.
#543 [14:02] <Calinou> it's some mod which improves game performance
#544 [14:03] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-125-optifine-hd-a2-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and-more/
#545 [14:07] <zkxs> I have a mod that lets me place blocks *faster*
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#547 [14:12] <Vitou> Can i have free minecraft account
#548 [14:12] <Vitou> ?
#549 [14:12] <Morrolan> No. In order to play the current version of Minecraft you have to buy it.
#550 [14:13] <Morrolan> There is an outdated demo version for Windows somewhere.
#551 [14:13] <Vitou> Why it's not free to play?
#552 [14:13] <Morrolan> And Classic is free for everyone, but that one is vastly different.
#553 [14:13] <Morrolan> Because Mojang wants to earn some money?
#554 [14:13] <Vitou> Can you speak French?
#555 [14:13] <Morrolan> No.
#556 [14:13] <Vitou> Why?
#557 [14:13] <Morrolan> Because potatoe.
#558 [14:13] <Vitou> You hate french?
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#560 [14:14] <Morrolan> Do you speak Dutch?
#561 [14:14] <Vitou> A little
#562 [14:14] <Morrolan> So if I would ask you "why not more", what would your answer be? ;)
#563 [14:14] <Vitou> Juste 1 words
#564 [14:14] <Morrolan> What I'm aiming at is, that it's pointless to ask "Why don't you speak xyz".
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#566 [14:15] <Morrolan> And off he goes.
#567 [14:15] <Omen> :)
#568 [14:17] <Dan> Morrolan, remember there are always idiots in the world and most of them will join the support
#569 [14:17] <Omen> I love randomly running into seems of magma while I am digging rapidly with my shovel. It always gives me that momentary heart attack as I run backwards fast dropping blocks of sand to quench it's thirst for death
#570 [14:17] <Omen> seams*
#571 [14:17] <Morrolan> Dan - Yea, there's quite a number of, err, not so bright people who somehow find their way here. ^^
#572 [14:17] <Morrolan> Some of them might just be trolling though.
#573 [14:18] <Dan> that is why i love owning my own IRCd server to kill the trollers
#574 [14:18] <Dan> that is why i love owning my own IRCd server to kill the trollers
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#576 [14:19] <Dan> hey there goes one i bet
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#578 [14:20] <Morrolan> I often wonder where AM3 has his nick from, but just as often forget to ask him.
#579 [14:20] <Omen> Dan, I make ChanServ (or a bot) auto-voice everyone on joining the channel then just unvoice people so they can still read, but not comment
#580 [14:20] <Dan> maybe from AMD?
#581 [14:21] <Morrolan> Well, it could be from the CPU socket, but I somehow doubt that.
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#583 [14:21] <Dan> Omen, but they can cycle the channel and get voice back
#584 [14:21] <Morrolan> The reason I'm curious is just, that it reminds me of "All maps 3", a TF2 server I used to frequent. :p
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#586 [14:21] <Dan> AM3, how did you come about your name?
#587 [14:21] <Omen> Dan, actually after being devoiced it doesn't give them voice back.
#588 [14:22] <Omen> At least not til they log out and in again.
#589 [14:22] <Dan> Omen, yea it does and we tested it on a all voice channel with +m enable and cycle will make them get voice right away when they loose it
#590 [14:23] <Omen> Dan, matters what services you are running, what server you are running.
#591 [14:23] <Dan> i run InspIRCd and Atheme IRC Services
#592 [14:23] <Omen> Nice.
#593 [14:24] <Dan> it used to be UnrealIRCd and Anope IRC Services
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#596 [14:25] <Dan> good old trolling kicking, GOD i love it
#597 [14:26] <TheNoodle> Odd that this channel is still on his autojoin
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#599 [14:27] <Dan> bet its a bot
#600 [14:27] <TheNoodle> He's not :P
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#602 [14:27] <Dan> Kaito, go back to Torchwood
#603 [14:27] <Kaito> :(
#604 [14:28] <Dan> do you get what im saying?
#605 [14:28] <Kaito> not a clue
#606 [14:28] <Dan> am i the only Doctor Who fan?
#607 [14:28] <Dan> Kaito, nvm
#608 [14:28] <Kaito> My sister is :P
#609 [14:29] <Dan> well Torchwood is from the Doctor Who show that they somewhat off spin and there is a person called Kaito who works in Torchwood
#610 [14:29] <Kaito> oh
#611 [14:29] <Kaito> how do they pronounce it?
#612 [14:29] <Dan> kat-toe
#613 [14:30] <Kaito> darn :(
#614 [14:30] <Dan> if you have netflix, you should watch it
#615 [14:30] <Kaito> I love netflix
#616 [14:31] <Dan> search up Torchwood
#617 [14:31] <Kaito> Maybe later
#618 [14:31] <Kaito> I need to find a new longboard deck :(
#619 [14:32] <Omen> I am having such bad luck finding diamonds today.
#620 [14:32] <Kaito> I hate that feeling
#621 [14:32] <Kaito> Here I am, building super complex structures and redstone creations legitly, and I have a diamond pickaxe, and thats it
#622 [14:33] <Kaito> no more diamonds xD
#623 [14:33] <zkxs> if it is multiplayer, you could perhaps trade some redstone legitness for diamonds
#624 [14:33] <Kaito> I dont play multiplayer
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#626 [14:34] <zkxs> I don't play singleplayer
#627 [14:34] <Dan> just dont do a James Heaney and dig straight down
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#629 [14:34] <Omen> I had 2 diamond picks and 6 metal picks. I am almost out of metal picks, going to have to start using the diamond ones soon.
#630 [14:35] <xarcus> hi, can someone help me to install SDK guns mod? When i run minecraft after installing forge, my player can't move and my game crashes
#631 [14:36] <zkxs> mod support is my nemisis
#632 [14:36] <zkxs> *nemesis
#633 [14:36] <Omen> I like waiting til my picks get down to about 2/5th remaining, switching to a different pick.. Doing the same.. then taking the 2 picks and combining them into 1 brand new pick.
#634 [14:37] <xarcus> so, can you help me?
#635 [14:38] <xarcus> please :/
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#637 [14:46] <Dan> hey is setting up realms on classic,require a mod?
#638 [14:48] <Morrolan> TheNoodle - He seemingly removed it for a while, but a few weeks ago he began to try and join it again. ^^
#639 [14:50] <Morrolan> Either way, I am sure as hell not gonna ask him, last thing I need is him stalking me. ^^
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#649 [15:51] <MrSquid> Hello everyone, I have a problem with the last release of Minecraft 1.2.5 on Fedora (GNU/Linux) in Multiplayer
#650 [15:51] <MrSquid> I can speak, but when I write a command, the speaking bar doesn't quit
#651 [15:52] <MrSquid> If I press Escape it writes a /, if I press Enter it also writes a /
#652 [15:52] <MrSquid> And it won't leave, I have to reboot the game to be able to play again
#653 [15:59] <MrSquid> Any solutions ? Will it be fixed ?
#654 [16:01] <MrSquid> It's slightly annoying because I cannot play on my server now if I cannot write any command whithout restarting the game.
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#657 [16:20] <MrSquid> No answer ?
#658 [16:20] <Morrolan> No patience? :)
#659 [16:20] <Morrolan> Especially when having a not so common configuration you'll have to expect to wait a bit. :)
#660 [16:21] <Morrolan> What you could try, ofcourse, is forcing an update, this might fix it.
#661 [16:21] <Morrolan> Launcher -> options -> force update, log in as usual
#662 [16:21] <Morrolan> Also, you get that issue only if entering a command? If you just chat and hit enter it closes as it should?
#663 [16:23] <MrSquid> Sorry. Yes it seems to happen only when typing a command. I'ive already tried to remove my bin/ folder so it will reinstall the game, with no success
#664 [16:24] <MrSquid> However it seems that if I press F11 when the bug is happening to put on fullscreen, then press again to quit fullscreen, I can quit the chat bar whith esc
#665 [16:24] <MrSquid> Better than nothing.
#666 [16:24] <Morrolan> That is kind of a strange bug. Especially that it only happens if you try to enter a command, that is if the first character is a slash.
#667 [16:25] <Morrolan> No clue what might be causing it, but feel free to idle here, chances are someone might have a clue.
#668 [16:25] <MrSquid> And it doesn't happen everytime, I would say on half command I write
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#670 [16:28] <MrSquid> I think this bug is not so unknown. On list of fixed bugs on Minecraft 1.2.5 prereleases, it says "La touche « / » qui ne fonctionnait pas avec certains environnements" so in english : The "/" button that didn't work on some environments
#671 [16:28] <Morrolan> Would seem that it's a known bug then, yea. :)
#672 [16:28] <MrSquid> I looks a bit like mine, but it's obviously not fixed for me hehe
#673 [16:30] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/latest <- search for "dash" on the webpage, there's a bugreport there too.
#674 [16:31] <Morrolan> Seems the fix they deployed didn't fix all cases.
#675 [16:31] <Morrolan> err, "slash", not dash.
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#680 [16:36] <MrSquid> Thank you for the link
#681 [16:37] <MrSquid> The bug is not fixed for everyone indeed, I found some people in my case
#682 [16:37] <hcaulfie1d57> I'm having trouble launching minecraft on Linux, getting the following error pastebin.com/Gwgdtsnq
#683 [16:40] <MrSquid> wich distro ?
#684 [16:40] <hcaulfie1d57> MrSquid: Gentoo, installed with Sun Java
#685 [16:40] <hcaulfie1d57> x86_64
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#687 [16:43] <Finamenon> hello
#688 [16:43] <MrSquid> did you try with openjre ? worked better for me
#689 [16:43] <hcaulfie1d57> I have not, I suppose I could though
#690 [16:44] <Finamenon> so someone on my server just noticed something really odd, im wondering if this is vanilla behavior or plugin related? Anytime you left click a grown animal with milk it turns it into a baby animal
#691 [16:44] <Finamenon> is that normal? O_o
#692 [16:44] <MrSquid> I don't know x)
#693 [16:44] <hcaulfie1d57> Ughhhh, I just want to play it haha.
#694 [16:45] <Finamenon> ill ask in another channel then, ty :)
#695 [16:45] <MrSquid> For hcaulfie1d57 : I don't know if it will fix anything but .. Never know huh
#696 [16:46] <hcaulfie1d57> I will give openjdk a shot, if I can't figure it out sooner or later. I'm sure its something simple, just not seeing it though
#697 [16:49] <MrSquid> Indeed, I've searched for nearly one year because my game was lagging on Fedora whereas it worked fine on Ubuntu
#698 [16:49] <MrSquid> In fact I did not install nvidia drivers
#699 [16:50] <MrSquid> On ubuntu it used to automatically tell me when these kind of drivers were needed, but not on Fedora so I didn't think about it, for a whole year.
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#701 [16:51] <yinso> so how long after i buy teh game before i can play it ?
#702 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Depends on how fast your bank does transactions
#703 [16:52] <yinso> oh well thats silly lol thanks
#704 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Many can play instantly, some need to wait for their financial institution to finish processing payment
#705 [16:52] <yinso> the email said it went in and way paid so ...
#706 [16:53] <hcaulfie1d57> Okay, figured it out, first of all for whatever reason $HOME/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar does nothing, you need the launcher from the website, and I didn't have xrandr installed.
#707 [16:53] <hcaulfie1d57> But Minecraft won't show up in a full window, like its not taking up the full screen
#708 [16:53] <yinso> still getting user not premium lol
#709 [16:53] <yinso> well cheers all
#710 [16:53] <yinso> well cheers all
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#712 [16:56] <MrSquid> A bit weird
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#716 [17:04] <alex504405> would this be the place to ask for help with a mod
#717 [17:05] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft would probably be better
#718 [17:05] <hcaulfield57> Thanks for the hlep, glad I got it working now :)
#719 [17:06] <alex504405> i am having trouble with buildcraft and cannot get it to work can someone please help?
#720 [17:06] <hcaulfield57> That is thanks for the help MrSquid
#721 [17:07] <Finamenon> well I learned the milk thing is from a plugin, I just dont know which
#722 [17:08] <alex504405> any help with that buildcraft problem?
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#724 [17:11] <alex504405> i am having trouble with a mod named buildcraft any help?
#725 [17:11] <GreyVulpine> ?? mods
#726 [17:11] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#727 [17:12] <VoxelHead> mods: as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#728 [17:12] <alex504405> ok
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#730 [17:14] <schmoop> Is anybody there who can help me out?
#731 [17:15] <schmoop> Hello?
#732 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> With
#733 [17:15] <schmoop> Oh hello
#734 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help are you looking for?
#735 [17:16] <schmoop> Ok so yesterday, I was running fine on my browser (and I am not interested in downloading the app on to my computer) and as of today it has stopped working... Is it updating? The only thing that I can think of is that I just got a new texture pack and used MCpatcher to fix some problems within it.
#736 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> That could make minecraft stop working
#737 [17:17] <schmoop> Oh ok... Anything I can do to undo that?
#738 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#739 [17:17] <schmoop> Windows 7
#740 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#741 [17:18] <schmoop> for the .minecraft file?
#742 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder (it may be in /roaming), delete everything inside except for saves
#743 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> Then run the launcher again
#744 [17:19] <schmoop> hmm launcher as in browser?
#745 [17:20] <schmoop> I don't have the downloaded version
#746 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Either will use the same files
#747 [17:21] <schmoop> Should I just cut them so I don't lose them permanently?
#748 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Up to you
#749 [17:22] <schmoop> alright
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#751 [17:24] <schmoop> ok well I did so and the same result. It shows an 'Updating Minecraft' screen with a green bar that's almost full, but it's not.
#752 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> Did you delete everything but the 'saves' folder in .minecraft?
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#754 [17:26] <schmoop> not the bin folder, it wouldn't allow me
#755 [17:26] <schmoop> well I tried to cut it because like I said I don't want to lose it
#756 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Close down minecraft and do this
#757 [17:27] <schmoop> ok
#758 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Don't have the applet open
#759 [17:27] <schmoop> ok
#760 [17:29] <schmoop> ok so it's working
#761 [17:30] <schmoop> So I can't use MCpatcher then?
#762 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> The thing you need to know is, when you modding minecraft (like with MCpatcher), the in-browser client will not work
#763 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to run minecraft with the downloaded client when you're attempting to use any mods
#764 [17:30] <RedefinedClank_> Does anyone know a seed where it's relatively flat?
#765 [17:30] <schmoop> Ohhh ok. I will look into it when using a downloaded version of the app then?
#766 [17:30] * GreyVulpine nods
#766 [17:31] <schmoop> alright then, thanks!
#767 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> RedefinedClank_ - you can tell the world generator to use a "flatmap" option
#768 [17:31] <GreyVulpine> This is available in both single and multiplayer
#769 [17:31] <schmoop> Just as some advice, if you're doing this in survival, it won't be as good as in the default option
#770 [17:32] <RedefinedClank_> GreyVulpine: I know, I just need a flat seed to build a town on for my server
#771 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> There is no "seed" value that gives you a certain feature over another.
#772 [17:32] <RedefinedClank_> GreyVulpineL I know that
#773 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> A seed value is just a starting point for a map generator. One seed doesn't generate more forest than another, or more ice/sand than another
#774 [17:33] <RedefinedClank_> GreyVulpine: I was asking if anyone knew a seed off the top of there head
#775 [17:33] <RedefinedClank_> GreyVulpine: I was asking if anyone knew a seed off the top of there head
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#777 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, nope
#778 [17:35] <RedefinedClank_> 1263344964537670091
#779 [17:35] <RedefinedClank_> That works
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#783 [17:52] <matagin> anyone know of an updated plugin that allows obsidian to be destroyed with tnt?
#784 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Try asking in #bukkit
#785 [17:53] <matagin> thanks
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#792 [18:55] <Syntaxim> Hello
#793 [18:55] <Syntaxim> Can some one please recommend an area for a new player to find a Server?
#794 [18:55] <Syntaxim> I dont know what to really do
#795 [18:56] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#796 [18:56] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#797 [18:56] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#798 [18:57] <oldtopman> Syntaxim: I usually reccomend that you play around in single player a bit firrst.
#799 [19:05] <Syntaxim> Is there a Tutorial?
#800 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> !tutorial
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#803 [19:14] <Velasa> Hey,, is the new java updatr causing anyone else problems?
#804 [19:15] <Velasa> *update
#805 [19:15] <GreyVulpine> Java 7 has been known to cause problems
#806 [19:15] <Velasa> hmn
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#808 [19:16] <Velasa> it asked me to update when I turned the comp on and now when i try to launch it from the desktop it says could not create the java virtual machine.
#809 [19:16] <Velasa> restarting didn't help, game still works in browser
#810 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall and reinstall java
#811 [19:17] <Velasa> ok
#812 [19:18] <Velasa> perhaps that would help the 32/64 bit thing as well when trying to view distance far?
#813 [19:18] * GreyVulpine nods
#813 [19:18] <Velasa> I'd sort of given up on that after a while
#814 [19:18] <Velasa> thanks
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#816 [19:19] <Azrazal> hey, would someone please link me to the 1.2.3 server download (mojang release)
#817 [19:19] <GreyVulpine> Mojang does not keep older releases
#818 [19:22] <Azrazal> is there anywhere (legal) to get it? i need to set up a server for me and some friends for later tonight using mods that havent got a 1.2.5 release out yet
#819 [19:22] <GreyVulpine> There is not
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#827 [20:07] <CODsniperkid> Hey guys. We are having errors with the permissions configuration in the groups.yml file for GroupManager. Our administrators can kill each other, but our Members can not kill admins and vise versa.
#828 [20:07] <oldtopman> CODsniperkid: you might try #bukkit or #risucraft.
#829 [20:08] <CODsniperkid> Thanks.
#830 [20:08] <CODsniperkid> Thanks.
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#833 [20:10] <Velasa> Hello, I was in here earlier asking about the "could not create the java virtual machine' error
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#835 [20:11] <Velasa> somebody reccomended I uninstall/reinstall java, that hasn't worked
#836 [20:11] <Velasa> second tme I cleared out all cookies/ect and still hasn' worked
#837 [20:12] <oldtopman> Velasa: Have you tried the downloaded client?
#838 [20:13] <Velasa> downloaded client?
#839 [20:13] <oldtopman> The .exe file. As opposed to playing in browser.
#840 [20:13] <Velasa> the in-browser version of the game works, the error is trying to run it from the desktop
#841 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> How did you uninstall java?
#842 [20:14] <Velasa> from the control pannel
#843 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Did you remove all traces of java from there?
#844 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> This error frequently happens when there's multiple versions of java installed on the computer.
#845 [20:15] <Velasa> I went to add-remove, removed java. When I checked the control panne; again java was no longer there
#846 [20:15] <Velasa> hmn
#847 [20:17] <Velasa> how would I tell if there were multiples
#848 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Multiple entries in the control panel, multiple java directories in C:\Program files\java and c:\program files (x86)\java, determining what version of java the browser is using (java console in browser) vs what version of java the cmd prompt (cmd -> java -version) is using
#849 [20:20] <Velasa> first two are a no. checking the browser
#850 [20:22] <Velasa> hmn. I can't fifure out where it is in the toolbars but I'm running java version 1.6.0_31
#851 [20:23] <Velasa> I'm running XP on here
#852 [20:23] <Velasa> I think that's why I can'tdo the 64 bit stuff actually
#853 [20:23] <Velasa> I can play the game in browser, but if I can fix this I;d like to.
#854 [20:25] <Velasa> and putting that text in the command prompt doesn't give me anything
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#857 [20:27] <todb> Hi guys. Minecraft using OpenJDK and Sun/Oracle JDK both suck on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I've googled for a few days, no good advice yet. Have you solved this?
#858 [20:27] <todb> Oh this is Ubuntu 64-bit btw
#859 [20:28] <zkxs> Guest83895: It could be that your Member group is inheriting a nonexistant group
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#861 [20:29] <Guest83895> Let me check.
#862 [20:30] <Guest83895> Sorry man. It says "default" and it should be Guest. Thanks for replying :)
#863 [20:30] <zkxs> Guest83895: also, the fact that you just changed both nicks and channels does not make you easier to help
#864 [20:30] <zkxs> but you're welcome
#865 [20:31] <Guest83895> Sorry. My BackTrack5 crashed and so yeah.
#866 [20:31] <Guest83895> Bye.
#867 [20:36] <Velasa> oi, nothing I'm trying is working
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#869 [20:37] <Wizardau> Morning - Im not able to change the skin on my MC Avitar - Any ideas?
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#880 [21:22] <apoo> hello?
#881 [21:23] <apoo> -_-
#882 [21:23] <apoo> -_-
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#884 [21:24] <apoo> hello anyone here?
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#886 [21:27] <zkxs> VoxelHead: Activate noob detectors!
#887 [21:27] <zkxs> -.-
#888 [21:28] <zkxs> day=ruined
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#903 [22:46] <joxer90x> hello people, could anyone give me a hand getting java to work properly on ubuntu?
#904 [22:52] <zkxs> sure
#905 [22:52] <zkxs> Step 1: don't use java 7
#906 [22:53] <zkxs> you looking to use openjdk or sun java?
#907 [22:54] <zkxs> joxer90x: ^
#908 [22:56] <Eddie> Step 0: Burn Java.
#909 [22:58] <joxer90x> soz for the silence, i have openjdk 7 installed but in /usr/bin/ but i cant access 'java' from the terminal.. altho i just realized i can access javaws, would using it affect performance?
#910 [23:00] <zkxs> do you *need* java 7?
#911 [23:00] <zkxs> 6 works fine, and is arguably better for minecraft
#912 [23:00] <joxer90x> the same issue existed when i was running 6.. so i tried getting the 7'th ( half an hour ago )
#913 [23:01] <zkxs> This is the guide I used to get sun java working. My openjdk worked fine out of the box. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
#914 [23:02] <joxer90x> yes i have fallowed that guide in the past as i installed this OS, this is what i ended up with unfortunately
#915 [23:02] <Dan> joxer90x, what jdk are you using?
#916 [23:03] <Dan> well trying to use
#917 [23:03] <zkxs> does /usr/bin/java exist? and what does `which java` give you?
#918 [23:07] <zkxs> also, try `readlink -f /usr/bin/java`
#919 [23:08] <Dan> joxer90x, use java -version to tell us what version you have and what are you trying to use
#920 [23:10] <joxer90x> no sorry i should have mentioned this earlier, /usr/bin/java does not exist but /usr/bin/javaws does
#921 [23:10] <Dan> joxer90x, what version are you trying to use of jdk
#922 [23:11] <zkxs> /usr/bin/java ought to exist. Mine is a link pointing at /etc/alternatives/java
#923 [23:11] <zkxs> which in turn points at /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
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#925 [23:14] <Epicofficial> Hello there.
#926 [23:15] <joxer90x> dan openjdk jre 7 ( since this issue began with openjdk jre 6 ) zkxs really man, /usr/bin/java doesn't exist, /urs/bin/javaws is a link...
#927 [23:15] <Epicofficial> <_> hmm's any support online :3?
#928 [23:15] <Dan> joxer90x, do you want to use sun java 6 or are you just trying to get openjdk jre 7 going and what ubuntu release are you using
#929 [23:16] <Dan> Epicofficial, it helps to say what you need help with more then just saying hello
#930 [23:16] <joxer90x> dan: i've had major issues with sun java 6 after installing it correctly so ill stick to openjdk jre 7(or 6) for now
#931 [23:16] <Epicofficial> aham I've got an issue to reset my own password, I've used the following link http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword and no e-mail coming so i could reset my password.
#932 [23:17] <Dan> Epicofficial, check your junk/spam folder
#933 [23:17] <Dan> joxer90x, what ubuntu release are you using?
#934 [23:17] <Epicofficial> I've did checked on my junk/spam folder, there's none.
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#936 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> Then, Epicofficial, check your other email accounts
#937 [23:18] <Silv3erbolt> any1 here had the"saving chunks" problem?
#938 [23:18] <Epicofficial> Alright a sec.
#939 [23:18] <Silv3erbolt> and know how to fix it ?
#940 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> Silv3erbolt - Yes. Causes range from map corruption, to incompatible mods, to java issues
#941 [23:19] <Silv3erbolt> and there is any way of solving this prob?
#942 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what the issue actually is.
#943 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> Was this map generated in a previous version? Were any mods used?
#944 [23:20] <Silv3erbolt> i play the game with no mods , just some texture packs and after 1 or 2 min and the "saving chinks " then a black screen
#945 [23:20] * AuBot kicked Silv3erbolt from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ilv3erbolt :Please keep it civil.)
#946 [23:20] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#946 [23:20] * Wug snrk
#946 [23:20] <Dan> fail?
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#950 [23:23] <Silv3erbolt> just got kcked ...
#951 [23:23] <Dan> joxer90x, do you want to get sun java 6 working on your system cause that is what im running
#952 [23:23] <Silv3erbolt> lol
#953 [23:24] <Silv3erbolt> grey do u have any idea and how to fix it ?
#954 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Does making a new world work?
#955 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> If so, there's something wrong with that one.
#956 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> If not, there's something wrong with minecraft and/or java
#957 [23:25] * Wug notes that wugbot is picking up on people coming back with the same name and shouldnt be
#957 [23:25] <Silv3erbolt> and if something wrong with that world ...i can't fixed it ...all my work there is gone ? lol
#958 [23:25] <Wug> Silv3erbolt: its probably fixable
#959 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> There may, or may not be solutions.
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#961 [23:25] <Wug> might be hard to fix but theyre usually fixable
#962 [23:26] <Silv3erbolt> many ppl have the same prob... and no1 can fix it .....:(
#963 [23:26] <Silv3erbolt> ok
#964 [23:26] <Silv3erbolt> tnx , hope some1 will come with a solution
#965 [23:26] <Wug> :ts/launcher > Silv3erbolt
#966 [23:26] <WugBot> Silv3erbolt: (ts/launcher) Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#967 [23:26] <WugBot> Silv3erbolt: (ts/launcher) Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
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#969 [23:26] <Wug> download and use that
#970 [23:27] <Wug> it works the same way as the regular minecraft launcher
#971 [23:27] <Silv3erbolt> ok...ty
#972 [23:27] <Wug> if it crashes again come back and we can read the log
#973 [23:27] <Silv3erbolt> yes
#974 [23:27] <Silv3erbolt> i will do that now
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#976 [23:33] <Epicofficial> Hello there again, I've checked all my e-mail address junk/spam or even inbox there's still no e-mail about reset the password.
#977 [23:36] <Silv3erbolt> it dow' not run with MCH .... i press login but does not run the game ..the screen is black
#978 [23:37] <Epicofficial> hmm .o.
#979 [23:38] <Silv3erbolt> u want to see the minecraft log file?
#980 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Silv3erbolt - Pastebin.com it
#981 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Epicofficial - "Epicofficial" your MC username?
#982 [23:38] <Epicofficial> Epicofficial made in the following e-mail epicoffical@live.com
#983 [23:39] <Epicofficial> I've checked all my e-mail addresses and still none reset password as I was planning to buy minecraft..
#984 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> Try checking once more, I requested a password change email with that username
#985 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> if not, you'll need to contact Mojang support proper, by going to http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#986 [23:44] <Silv3erbolt> is on public pastes
#987 [23:44] <Silv3erbolt> minecraft log 1
#988 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Please give us a URL
#989 [23:45] <Silv3erbolt> http://pastebin.com/XfA9pYx0
#990 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're not using any sort of mod at all for minecraft?
#991 [23:46] <Silv3erbolt> i have the mcpacher
#992 [23:46] <Silv3erbolt> adn some texture packs
#993 [23:46] <Silv3erbolt> no mods
#994 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> MCpatcher is a mod in itself
#995 [23:47] <Silv3erbolt> ok ..the i have that sry :P
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#997 [23:47] <Silv3erbolt> used it for over a month and had no prob
#998 [23:47] <Silv3erbolt> till now
#999 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> And you've never noticed that each time minecraft updates, MCpatcher breaks?
#1000 [23:48] <Silv3erbolt> didn't made any upgrade ...i got mc pacher the same time i got minecraft 1,2,5
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#1002 [23:49] <GreyVulpine> Could you try a "force Update" through the launcher's options menu, and remove the texture packs?
#1003 [23:51] <Silv3erbolt> ok i am doing that now
#1004 [23:51] <Silv3erbolt> removed mc pacher too
#1005 [23:54] <Silv3erbolt> no change ...still i have the bug
#1006 [23:55] <Wug> I've seen that error before. its caused by a mod
#1007 [23:55] * GreyVulpine nods
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#1008 [23:55] <Wug> ;addalt nippy nipper
#1009 [23:55] <WugBot> Registered nipper as alt nick of nippy.
#1010 [23:56] <Silv3erbolt> diferent ppl use diferent mods and have same prob ..not all mods can cause this ..
#1011 [23:56] <Silv3erbolt> can chunks get broken in the game ?>?
#1012 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1013 [23:57] <Wug> its not fantastically common but if a world has issues loading for some reason that's often why
#1014 [23:58] <Silv3erbolt> thn this is the prob i think ....hope a future update can solve this cause i would hate losing 30 hours of building crap on my wolrd ..
#1015 [23:58] <Silv3erbolt> i mean art
#1016 [23:58] <Epicofficial> I haven't purchase minecraft yet and I couldn't access minecraft using my own account as GreyVulpine reset my password there's no in coming e-mail. Is there any other option?
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#1018 [23:59] <Wug> Epicofficial: theres a link in the topic for account issues, visit that
#1019 [23:59] <Silv3erbolt> make another account :)
#1020 [23:59] <Epicofficial> Alright Wug.