#1 [00:00] <Silv3erbolt> so my world is lost :((
#2 [00:00] <Silv3erbolt> ok ty for ur time grey
#3 [00:01] <Wug> Silv3erbolt: get into minecraft with that launcher
#4 [00:01] <Wug> then try to load the world
#5 [00:01] <Silv3erbolt> tryed
#6 [00:01] <Silv3erbolt> it does not work
#7 [00:01] <Wug> ok, pastebin the log again
#8 [00:01] <Silv3erbolt> does not log in
#9 [00:01] <Silv3erbolt> http://pastebin.com/XfA9pYx0
#10 [00:01] <Wug> oh, you mean the launcher.
#11 [00:01] <Silv3erbolt> i get the login screen
#12 [00:02] <Silv3erbolt> press login
#13 [00:02] <Wug> I might have to update it or something
#14 [00:02] <Silv3erbolt> and that is it
#15 [00:02] <Wug> and it works otherwise?
#16 [00:02] <Silv3erbolt> yes
#17 [00:02] <Silv3erbolt> without mch it does
#18 [00:02] <Wug> hmm. well, save the world for later and play on a different one for a while
#19 [00:03] <Wug> I probably have to update it
#20 [00:03] <Silv3erbolt> yes pls....
#21 [00:04] <Silv3erbolt> got the game for a while but i nvere had the time to play it ...and is realy fun hope i won't lose my world cause im very short with free time ...
#22 [00:04] <Silv3erbolt> i will come back in a few days
#23 [00:04] <Silv3erbolt> maybe we can fix it
#24 [00:04] <Silv3erbolt> ok ..see ya ..and tnx again
#25 [00:04] <Silv3erbolt> ok ..see ya ..and tnx again
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#27 [00:05] <Wug> GreyVulpine: can you test that launcher
#28 [00:05] <Wug> :ts/launcher
#29 [00:05] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Use this launcher to help troubleshoot minecraft. It saves a log called minecraft.log containing any errors minecraft may have encountered as it was running. To use it, simply download and double click.
#30 [00:05] <WugBot> ts/launcher: Troubleshooting Minecraft Launcher (All Operating Systems): http://wug.me/minecraft/illegal/MCH-Launcher.jar
#31 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Gah, kinda busy right now
#32 [00:05] * Wug click
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#33 [00:07] <Wug> works fine for me
#34 [00:07] <fenster> what is default like ip of netgear routers in us
#35 [00:07] <fenster> and l/p after rest
#36 [00:07] <Wug> fenster: 192.168.1.1 probably
#37 [00:07] <fenster> ahh ok
#38 [00:07] <fenster> that works was using .0.1
#39 [00:07] <fenster> thanks
#40 [00:10] <Epicofficial> hmm I've read everything and reset password and I just wish to have my problem solved, my account name : epicofficial I want to know if it was created by the following e-mail: epicoffical@live.com and if it was then Whenever I reset password it doesn't work.
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#42 [00:10] <Wug> Epicofficial: theres a contact form, did you find it
#43 [00:10] <Epicofficial> Yes I did, but it ask me about "purchase id"
#44 [00:11] <Epicofficial> Transaction ID/ I haven't even bought the game yet, I was trying to access and think wisely before buying the game.
#45 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> If it's an account issue then, and not a game issue, they do have a section providing account help at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151510-account-troubleshooting-/articles
#46 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> For example: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
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#52 [00:24] <rmsy> I'm getting an IO, no space left on device error
#53 [00:24] <rmsy> And some stuff about gzip and NBTS storage
#54 [00:25] <rmsy> This is after turning off my server (with .hold in RTK wrapper) and rebooting my VPS.
#55 [00:25] <rmsy> The wrapper runs from RAMdisk, if that makes a difference.
#56 [00:25] <rmsy> I really need to get this fixed, fast.
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#58 [00:27] <Wug> how much free space is there on your ramdisk
#59 [00:28] <rmsy> Let me check
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#61 [00:28] <rmsy> Wug: I just discovered what it was
#62 [00:29] <rmsy> Since the wrapper was still running, it never dropped off of RAMdisk
#63 [00:29] <rmsy> So it's still sitting in there
#64 [00:29] <rmsy> Thanks :)
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#66 [00:31] <rmsy> Wug: I thought that was it
#67 [00:31] <rmsy> I just deleted it and I'm getting the same error
#68 [00:31] <rmsy> With nothing on the RAMdisk
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#70 [00:38] <rmsy> Wug: And now my entire Minecraft directory is gone.
#71 [00:38] <rmsy> Fuck.
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#74 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> no backups?
#75 [00:39] <rmsy> I have one on my old VPS
#76 [00:39] <rmsy> Gonna have to let it download
#77 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> That's good.
#78 [00:39] <rmsy> It's two days old, though :/
#79 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> It's better than nothing though, right?
#80 [00:39] <Epicofficial> Minecraft should support @live.com ._.
#81 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> As uncle Leo says, you can't get it back if you don't back it up :)
#82 [00:42] <rmsy> DiskDaemon: lol
#83 [00:42] <rmsy> Stupidly enough, my backups were saved to inside my Minecraft directory
#84 [00:42] <rmsy> And this all started by me clicking the wrong button in phpMyAdmin >_>
#85 [00:42] <Epicofficial> I'm so epic..
#86 [00:42] <Epicofficial> .o.
#87 [00:43] <Wug> rmsy: why do you use a ramdisk anyway
#88 [00:43] <Wug> they havent been necessary since the save format update that introduced mcregions
#89 [00:44] <Wug> and, as you noticed, they have problems with data loss if you're not really super careful
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#91 [00:46] <rmsy> Wug: RedstoneHost does it automatically
#92 [00:46] <rmsy> Plus it's an increase in speed
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#94 [01:02] <Dan> hey when does minecraft release on XBA
#95 [01:03] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Xbox_360_Edition
#96 [01:03] <DiskDaemon> Specifically - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Xbox_360_Edition#Release
#97 [01:05] <Dan> thanks
#98 [01:06] <rmsy> DiskDaemon: Know how I would go about getting MySQL back?
#99 [01:06] <rmsy> It's there but /var/lib/mysql is gone
#100 [01:06] <DiskDaemon> sorry, *nix isn't my area
#101 [01:06] <rmsy> Ah, ok
#102 [01:07] * rmsy goes to Freenode
#102 [01:07] <Dan> rmsy, what distro are you using?
#103 [01:07] <rmsy> CentOS
#104 [01:07] <rmsy> 5
#105 [01:08] <Dan> did you install it from distro or source?
#106 [01:08] <rmsy> It came pre-installed
#107 [01:08] <rmsy> Oh
#108 [01:08] <rmsy> MySQL?
#109 [01:08] <rmsy> I installed it via yum
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#111 [01:09] <Dan> just reinstall it via yum and you should be fine
#112 [01:09] <rmsy> I tried that
#113 [01:09] <rmsy> Didn't work
#114 [01:09] <Dan> what does it say
#115 [01:09] <rmsy> That it can't connect via /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
#116 [01:10] <rmsy> And /var/lib/mysql is actually nonexistent
#117 [01:10] <rmsy> I checked
#118 [01:10] <Dan> and you did sudo yum install mysql
#119 [01:10] <rmsy> Yeah
#120 [01:10] <Dan> try rc.d start mysql
#121 [01:10] <Dan> i think that is the start trigger
#122 [01:11] <rmsy> Sorry, I run that as a command?
#123 [01:11] <Dan> yea
#124 [01:11] <rmsy> It said no such command
#125 [01:12] <Dan> try /etc/rc.d/mysqld start
#126 [01:12] <Dan> or /etc/rc.d/mysql start
#127 [01:13] <rmsy> No such file or directory.
#128 [01:13] <rmsy> Package mysql-5.0.95-1.el5_7.1.x86_64 already installed and latest version Package mysql-5.0.95-1.el5_7.1.i386 already installed and latest version
#129 [01:14] <rmsy> :/
#130 [01:14] <Dan> yea then you might want to talk to #centos on freenode
#131 [01:14] <rmsy> Ok
#132 [01:14] <rmsy> Thanks for your help
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#139 [01:28] <wftiswrng> anyone here?
#140 [01:28] <GreyVulpine> As ghosts in the machine, yes
#141 [01:29] <wftiswrng> haha maybe you can ghelp then, i just updated the minecraft server to 1.2.5 on my local host but people cant connect to it from outside my network, nothing has chagned besides the server version.
#142 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> Double check your port forwarding rules
#143 [01:30] <wftiswrng> ill try but nothing has changed there :/
#144 [01:31] <wftiswrng> ah shit man wtf
#145 [01:31] <wftiswrng> it worked haha
#146 [01:31] <wftiswrng> i probably coudl ahve done that without coming here but i r lazy
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#150 [01:49] <rasan> Are any servers currently up? O.o
#151 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#152 [01:49] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#153 [01:49] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#154 [01:51] <rasan> I Have to add a server before I Can see it I am guessing
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#166 [02:59] <Lunarius_Haberdash> Hello folks. :)
#167 [02:59] <Lunarius_Haberdash> Realized I was asking questions in the wrong forum.
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#169 [03:00] <Lunarius_Haberdash> Is anyone here familiar with GiantCaves, NullTerrain, and how to use them to create an entire world of nothing but stone and caves?
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#196 [06:18] <cjmaxibon> can anyone here please help?
#197 [06:18] <lemon-rev> with*
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#199 [06:20] <cjmaxibon> I think my account may have got hacked, i forogt my password so i sent a 'forgot password' to my email, and it never sent, so i clicked 'forgot username' but my IGN never came up either.
#200 [06:20] <lemon-rev> when you did the forgotten email when was that like time wize ?
#201 [06:21] <cjmaxibon> hm, about 1-3am, cant remember precisely
#202 [06:22] <lemon-rev> how many hours ago was that ?
#203 [06:23] <cjmaxibon> 8 hours ago i think
#204 [06:25] <lemon-rev> hm, maybe try it once more, then check the email, if not then you just have to wait it out, but we here cant do anything we arnt part of mojang
#205 [06:27] <cjmaxibon> ok thanks anyway
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#210 [07:03] <Naret_> Is it possible to make block keeps respawns under tree ? (Under the leaves)
#211 [07:04] <lemon-rev> you mean wood blocks ?
#212 [07:04] <Naret_> im making fruit tree
#213 [07:05] <Naret_> and i want my fruit to generate under the leaves
#214 [07:05] <lemon-rev> hm, cant make something thats not in the game, unless you have a modded version ie something added to the game
#215 [07:05] <Naret_> not item drops like apples (its a fruit block)!
#216 [07:05] <lemon-rev> dont know how to mod
#217 [07:05] <lemon-rev> hm, then just place it ?
#218 [07:06] <Naret_> um im making auto generate fruit blocks
#219 [07:42] <Chris> ??< pastebin
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#228 [09:15] <bobd0le> anyway to change a lever's position with redstone?
#229 [09:16] <bobd0le> like turn it from on to off
#230 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> no
#231 [09:16] <bobd0le> feck, my entire staircase is now buggered, haha ><
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#248 [10:28] <sproing> hello I've minecraft Monday last week bought by direct debit. And if I want to logging in then stand there "User not premium" sorry for my bad english ;)
#249 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> Where did you buy it from?
#250 [10:30] <sproing> minecraft.net
#251 [10:31] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps this may help - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#252 [10:31] <sproing> okay thank you
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#263 [11:09] <Fast> Hi
#264 [11:10] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#265 [11:10] <Fast> Is it possible to change your e-mail ?
#266 [11:10] <DiskDaemon> yes it is
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#268 [11:10] <Fast> How ?
#269 [11:10] <DiskDaemon> Fast: Go to Minecraft and choose Help from the top of the screen
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#271 [11:11] <Lunarius_Haberdash> Does anyone here know of a good way to create a world that is entirely subterranean from skycap to bedrock?
#272 [11:11] <JElias> MCEdit? xD
#273 [11:11] <Lunarius_Haberdash> (With bukkit)
#274 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> Fast: In the Account Troubleshooting section you will find what you need.
#275 [11:11] <JElias> WorldEdit
#276 [11:11] <Fast> My email account has changed ?
#277 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> Correct
#278 [11:11] <Fast> :)
#279 [11:12] <Lunarius_Haberdash> But WorldEdit won't change the entire map and everything new that's generated, correct?
#280 [11:12] <JElias> Lunarius_Haberdash: and #bukkit or #essentials may have a better idea on Bukkit plugins/stuff
#281 [11:12] <Lunarius_Haberdash> Thank you JElias!
#282 [11:12] <JElias> Np
#283 [11:12] <Fast> DiskDaemon: Do I need to have purchased the full version of Minecraft ?
#284 [11:12] <Fast> Because i'm about to buy it and I don't like my nickname...
#285 [11:12] <JElias> Fast: Make a new account
#286 [11:13] <JElias> Fast: With your desired user name
#287 [11:13] <JElias> Fast: Then purchase Minecraft
#288 [11:13] <qwert> Hello. I installed minecraft bukkit on my server, which is using centos os. and now i cant connect minecraft. I have an error message, like this: Internak exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
#289 [11:13] <qwert> can you help me please?
#290 [11:13] <JElias> qwert: We don't support bukkit here
#291 [11:13] <JElias> qwert: #bukkit
#292 [11:14] <qwert> but is it about minecraft?
#293 [11:14] <qwert> any idea?
#294 [11:14] <JElias> qwert: Bukkit is essentially a mod
#295 [11:14] <JElias> We only support vanilla here
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#297 [11:16] <Fast> Okai thanks DiskDaemon and JElias. :)
#298 [11:17] <JElias> :)
#299 [11:19] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
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#304 [11:32] <qwert> how can i restart minecraft server ?
#305 [11:32] <qwert> on linux os
#306 [11:33] <qwert> jelias?
#307 [11:33] <Calinou> type "stop" in the console, then restart it using a .sh file?
#308 [11:33] <qwert> i'm at ssh now
#309 [11:33] <Calinou> NEVER, EVER ctrl+c a minecraft server. world corruption is likely
#310 [11:33] <Calinou> well. if you started it on a screen, you'll have to use screen -R (screen name) to restore it
#311 [11:34] <qwert> i was started it screen sh minecraft.sh
#312 [11:36] <qwert> i wrote; screen -R minecraft.sh
#313 [11:36] <qwert> but i cant solve my problem: i still got an error msg: Internak exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out
#314 [11:37] <JElias> That's the equivalent of ctrl+c-ing
#315 [11:37] <JElias> When does it occur?
#316 [11:37] <qwert> when i wantted to connect, on client
#317 [11:38] <JElias> So when you conenct, you get kicked off and the server outputs that error?
#318 [11:38] <JElias> Or you connect, you can play, but the error is there?
#319 [11:39] <qwert> i cant connect, i cant play
#320 [11:39] <qwert> not just me
#321 [11:39] <qwert> anyone connect my server
#322 [11:40] <JElias> Have you tried reinstallign your java installation?
#323 [11:40] <qwert> how can i do it?
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#325 [11:40] <qwert> sorry, i'm just a beginner on linux os
#326 [11:41] <JElias> So am I xD
#327 [11:41] * JElias used to windows
#327 [11:41] <qwert> is there anyone who is using linux centos???
#328 [11:41] <qwert> channel can you hear me :P
#329 [11:42] <JElias> Try this? http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/CDS/install/8.0/Installation_Guide-Directory_Server_on_Linux-jre.html
#330 [11:42] <JElias> Nvm
#331 [11:42] <JElias> Don't, outdated xD
#332 [11:43] <JElias> This one, http://mohammadthalif.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/how-to-install-java-sun-jdk-in-centos-6-2/
#333 [11:44] <JElias> Or, http://eureka.ykyuen.info/2010/01/29/centos-install-java-sun-jdk/
#334 [11:44] <qwert> Install 4 Package(s) Upgrade 0 Package(s) Total download size: 20 M
#335 [11:44] <JElias> That's java =P
#336 [11:44] <qwert> i wrote "yum install java" but it doesnt solve problem
#337 [11:44] <qwert> still, read ouuuutttt
#338 [11:47] <qwert> i'm going to reboot my server
#339 [11:47] <qwert> maybe, works :)
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#342 [11:52] <qwert> i have a new error message jelias
#343 [11:52] <qwert> connection refused: connect
#344 [11:53] <qwert> iguana kealper greyvulpine
#345 [11:53] <qwert> is there anybody out there
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#357 [12:31] <joxer90x> hello, could anyone give me a hand with minecraft crashing? ( java issue )
#358 [12:32] <JohnEBH> If it's a long error, pastebin it
#359 [12:32] <JohnEBH> ?? Pastebin
#360 [12:32] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#361 [12:32] <joxer90x> yeah its on paste bin
#362 [12:32] <JohnEBH> Send it?
#363 [12:32] <joxer90x> error report http://pastebin.com/hpXxgwS9, crash log http://pastebin.com/eBPvdBu6
#364 [12:34] <JohnEBH> CAn you start by updating java?
#365 [12:35] <joxer90x> i have downloaded it yesterday, been trying to take care of these errors for past few weeks ( almost 24/7 )
#366 [12:35] <joxer90x> by downloaded i mean reinstalled for the xx'th time
#367 [12:36] <JohnEBH> Yes but you have an outdated version installed. Update 23
#368 [12:36] <JohnEBH> Latest is 30 I believe
#369 [12:36] <JohnEBH> ?? java
#370 [12:36] <VoxelHead> java: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html
#371 [12:37] <JohnEBH> Update 31 actually.
#372 [12:38] <joxer90x> im running ubuntu, currently there's no easy way to get oracle java to run on this OS ( security exploits, it's been officially blocked ) however i have tried using it about a week ago and expirienced even worse issues with it
#373 [12:38] <joxer90x> at the moment im using openjdk jre 6
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#375 [12:40] <joxer90x> from what i can tell its the latest one available for this os ( as apt-get & synaptic suggest )
#376 [12:41] <JohnEBH> Try openjdk 7? http://brunoreis.com/tech/intalling-java-ubuntu-natty/
#377 [12:41] <JohnEBH> Although Java7 isn't advisable xD
#378 [12:41] <JohnEBH> Wouldn't hurt to try imo
#379 [12:42] <joxer90x> tbh i uninstalled openjdk 6 yesterday & installed the 7'th.. it installed both the 6'th and the 7'th ?? < i was stunned...
#380 [12:42] <joxer90x> i tried launching minecraft with openjdk jre7 and it.. did not work.
#381 [12:42] <joxer90x> however openjdk jre 6 still worked.. thats what im using atm
#382 [12:43] <joxer90x> gonna do my best to whipe all the java versions / remains i have installed at the moment
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#384 [12:51] <titegtnodI> What if you can't help? "JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION, IF WE CAN HELP WE WILL."
#385 [12:53] <JohnEBH> Then you're SOL. >:
#386 [12:53] <titegtnodI> D:
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#388 [12:53] <JohnEBH> So be your problem? xD
#389 [12:54] <joxer90x> ok i think that was it.. i had remains of sun's java installed in two locations o_o not liked in any way to the os for some reason.. tried launching MC using them, they floated the terminal with errors.. now their gone =P
#390 [12:54] <titegtnodI> My problem is I don't know what my problem is yet! HALP!
#391 [12:54] <joxer90x> where can i get the latest version of openjdk 6 ? ( or should i use the 7'th? )
#392 [12:54] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: What's your problem?
#393 [12:55] <titegtnodI> ohai oldtopman
#394 [12:55] <oldtopman> joxer90x: Yeah, java 6 is your best bet.
#395 [12:55] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: The #minecrafthelp on your server not doing so hot?
#396 [12:55] <Calinou> sun's java works best. :P
#397 [12:55] <Calinou> openjdk often works fine. but not always
#398 [12:55] <titegtnodI> Pff my server doesn't support Minecraft
#399 [12:56] <joxer90x> i've had terrible errors after installing it ( correctly lol.. xP ) im running ubuntu so..
#400 [12:56] <titegtnodI> I prefer openjdk because Sun doesn't usually work for me
#401 [12:56] <titegtnodI> Ubuntu IS a terrible error
#402 [12:56] <Calinou> use mint :P
#403 [12:56] <Calinou> or ubuntu 11.04
#404 [12:56] <Calinou> (arch, or whatever, sucks.)
#405 [12:56] <joxer90x> am using 11.04 oneiric ocelot
#406 [12:56] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: What are your symptoms?
#407 [12:56] <Calinou> 11.04 = natty
#408 [12:56] <Calinou> 11.10 = oneiric
#409 [12:56] <Calinou> those aren't the same, at all
#410 [12:57] <joxer90x> shoot me >_>
#411 [12:57] * oldtopman headshots joxer90x
#411 [12:57] * Calinou takes a bfg10k
#411 [12:57] <joxer90x> sigh tbh i got ubuntu cause i became fedup with win7 and their precious ntfs
#412 [12:57] <Calinou> joxer90x was disintegrated by Calinou's BFG blast
#413 [12:57] <titegtnodI> I don't have Minecraft installed! How do I run it without downloading anything?
#414 [12:57] <oldtopman> joxer90x: Get debian.
#415 [12:57] <Calinou> titegtnodI, download the server jar only
#416 [12:57] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: Are you kidding me?
#417 [12:57] <Calinou> oldtopman, debian is for dudes in the 1995s.
#418 [12:57] <titegtnodI> oldtopman: yes
#419 [12:58] <Morrolan> Shush you guys, this ain't #oswar :P
#420 [12:58] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: You can figure it out yourself :|
#421 [12:58] <titegtnodI> I dunno ...
#422 [12:59] <joxer90x> thats a good point tbh, im too tired to go through installing anything and setting it up.. been trying to sort the mess with this OS for the past few weeks.. 24/7 xP
#423 [12:59] <joxer90x> if anyone in here is used to stay 2~3 days awake at a time highfive me >_>
#424 [13:00] * titegtnodI highfives joxer90x
#424 [13:00] <joxer90x> heh :3
#425 [13:00] <oldtopman> joxer90x: I did use to use the Uberman sleep cycle, but never more than 48h awake.
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#427 [13:02] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: How goes pho3n1xnet?
#428 [13:02] <joxer90x> oldtopman: i never used any wise words to describe what its like.. been doing it for so long i dont even notice which day/hour it is, might think its 10am a hour after i wake up whilst its actually 6pm.. and any other combinations, soz for the spam..
#429 [13:02] <titegtnodI> It goes well!
#430 [13:02] <titegtnodI> We has more servers now
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#432 [13:03] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: Do you have any new users?
#433 [13:03] <titegtnodI> We have some lol
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#435 [13:03] <oldtopman> Is ConMan/Bread still an oper?
#436 [13:04] <titegtnodI> Yup
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#438 [13:04] <titegtnodI> He's gonna be admin soon
#439 [13:04] <titegtnodI> xales is admin
#440 [13:04] <oldtopman> No wonder you had to come here for help.
#441 [13:04] <titegtnodI> Yeah, it's no fun trolling on Pho3n1xNet
#442 [13:04] <titegtnodI> No one's gullible enough
#443 [13:04] <oldtopman> Well, if you're an oper, you can troll as many people as you want.
#444 [13:05] <titegtnodI> Yeah but it's not as fun
#445 [13:05] <titegtnodI> So I came here for HALP
#446 [13:05] <oldtopman> Bread sure got a kick out of killing everyone in #speakeasy, then g/z/k-lining everyone who stood up for N-Spadwe
#447 [13:05] <titegtnodI> I want to play with the cats on Minecraft without downloading the client
#448 [13:06] <titegtnodI> You sure had fun harassing him ;)
#449 [13:06] <Morrolan> titegtnodI - Hmm, your easiest way would be to breed cube-shaped cats IRL then. :)
#450 [13:06] <oldtopman> Oh, did I?
#451 [13:06] <Morrolan> your best bet*
#452 [13:06] <titegtnodI> Morrolan: How should I start? Should I breed a non-cube cat with a sugar cube or ... ?
#453 [13:07] <oldtopman> It seems like he had more fun klining me for siding with n-spade, and being an asshole in general.
#454 [13:07] <Morrolan> Hmm, I believe that one can only breed with living beings. :S
#455 [13:07] <titegtnodI> What's living and cubed?
#456 [13:07] <titegtnodI> oldtopman: I klined you ;)
#457 [13:07] <Morrolan> So I suggest you take the two most square cats you can find and breed them.
#458 [13:07] <Morrolan> Then, take their children and breed them with another family of rectangular cats.
#459 [13:07] <Morrolan> In a few hundred generations you might have a completely cube-ish cat. :)
#460 [13:07] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: I believe you promised to deoper bread if anything else should happen, then you sided with him.
#461 [13:08] <oldtopman> ofc, that makes you a dick by extension, so...
#462 [13:08] <Silv3erbolt> hello
#463 [13:08] <Silv3erbolt> i have some prob with miencraft a bug or something
#464 [13:08] <titegtnodI> Morrolan: Hmm, if I persue this I could have a squre farm of animals! Then maybe sell the rights to the animals to Mojang and they could have a petting zoo!
#465 [13:08] <Silv3erbolt> i have the crash report ..maybe any1 can help
#466 [13:09] <titegtnodI> oldtopman: The only thing that happend was you were intentionally provoking my staff and upsetting my users ;)
#467 [13:09] <joxer90x> Silv3erbolt: pastebin it
#468 [13:09] <Morrolan> I think that's a nice plan you've got there, titegtnodI.
#469 [13:09] <Morrolan> Let me know how it goes every now and then.
#470 [13:10] <titegtnodI> Thanks! Generations of my family well follow your cubic plan!
#471 [13:10] <titegtnodI> will*
#472 [13:10] <titegtnodI> Oh I will
#473 [13:10] <Morrolan> Heh.
#474 [13:11] <titegtnodI> Step 1 ... buy a cat
#475 [13:11] <titegtnodI> Step 2, tolerate cats
#476 [13:12] <joxer90x> wth.. sigh, just installed openjdk 6, first time in a long while i could access java ( command ) from the terminal... but guess what!!? =P http://pastebin.com/HPjZAkFz
#477 [13:13] <titegtnodI> Have you relogged since switching javas?
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#479 [13:14] <joxer90x> nope.. rage&quit is up my throat again so im not thinking straight.. brb
#480 [13:14] <titegtnodI> Try: sudo update-alternatives --config java
#481 [13:14] <joxer90x> i got: There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java
#482 [13:14] <joxer90x> Nothing to configure.
#483 [13:15] <titegtnodI> Okay so that means openjdk is what's being used and I guess it isn't working for you : /
#484 [13:15] <titegtnodI> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java -jar ~/Desktop/minecraft_start.jar
#485 [13:16] <joxer90x> same thing..
#486 [13:16] <titegtnodI> If that doesn't work I'd go back to Sun
#487 [13:16] <joxer90x> ill try do a restart, and try sun afterwords.. thx for the support mate
#488 [13:16] <titegtnodI> http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en <-- for Sun
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#490 [13:18] <joxer90x> same thing =/
#491 [13:19] <titegtnodI> : / then try this for Sun: http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en (uninstall openjdk first)
#492 [13:20] <joxer90x> ah yes, i remember that page.. fallowed it when i installed sun's java first place a while back
#493 [13:20] <titegtnodI> Oh. What was your issue with Sun? I missed the beginning
#494 [13:21] <joxer90x> it was about a week ago i believe, immense screen flickering among other things, ill give it another try
#495 [13:23] <titegtnodI> Was the flickering just in Minecraft? If so, have you tried something else which uses OpenGL such as Runescape? If there is no flickering in OpenGL Runescape (Or another Java applet) then it's a Minecraft issue.
#496 [13:23] <joxer90x> i haven't tried anything other than minecraft, and yes the flickering only appeared inside of it
#497 [13:24] <joxer90x> i just installed the update-sun-jre, gonna give minecraft ( and then runescape ) a try
#498 [13:24] <titegtnodI> Okay! :)
#499 [13:24] <Wug> the flickering is a minecraft thing
#500 [13:25] <joxer90x> ok, it crashed.. however i tried running a modded client ( which worked with openjdk6.. >_> ) should i pastebin the error or try vanilla?
#501 [13:26] <oldtopman> titegtnodI: You need to get some staff that don't make users upset.
#502 [13:26] <nekronuke> Both
#503 [13:26] <oldtopman> When you're sorry, I can tell you how to play the game in a browser.
#504 [13:26] <oldtopman> Should we meet irl before then, I'll kick your ass.
#505 [13:27] <titegtnodI> oldtopman: To this day, you're the only person who's klined ;)
#506 [13:27] <joxer90x> titegtnodI: http://pastebin.com/Qa7VHXBi
#507 [13:27] <joxer90x> trying vanilla
#508 [13:27] <titegtnodI> I'd try vanilla
#509 [13:28] <titegtnodI> Did OpenJDK randomly stop working? o.o
#510 [13:28] <titegtnodI> I didn't know it worked before (you said the modded client worked)
#511 [13:28] <joxer90x> it was sun's java
#512 [13:28] <titegtnodI> oh okay
#513 [13:29] <joxer90x> and openjdk6... there's a collaborated forum post i joined where 3 of us guys described a similar issue, could link it ( specs, lag description )
#514 [13:29] <joxer90x> sigh what am i saying.. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1166441-random-intense-lag-10-mins-after-startup/
#515 [13:31] <titegtnodI> Thanks!
#516 [13:31] <joxer90x> lol ^^"
#517 [13:31] <joxer90x> well.. vanilla did start, altho the terminal was flooded with the same message "Skipping TileEntity with id tctcrystalore"
#518 [13:32] <joxer90x> 194 FPS.... been a while since i seen that
#519 [13:32] <titegtnodI> :D
#520 [13:33] <joxer90x> i have a feeling that the issue i described in the tread wasn't solved tho.. minecraft used to give me FPS that high for a few minutes before the FPS & chunk updates go down to 0.01 or something
#521 [13:33] <joxer90x> at doesn't explain why the modded clien't didn't start.. :(
#522 [13:33] <joxer90x> alongside the terminal being flooded with that message
#523 [13:34] <titegtnodI> Well the terminal likes to spam warnings / debugging
#524 [13:34] <titegtnodI> That's pretty normal with Minecraft
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#526 [13:35] <titegtnodI> I don't know about the modded client though! I don't even play Minecraft
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#528 [13:35] <joxer90x> haha :)
#529 [13:35] <joxer90x> been 'fallowing' minecraft since the middle alpha versions myself
#530 [13:35] <joxer90x> like.. 4 maybe 5 years
#531 [13:35] <titegtnodI> Haha, I have 2 alpha accounts
#532 [13:36] <titegtnodI> Waiting to see what alpha actually gets for free
#533 [13:36] <joxer90x> a cape maybe?
#534 [13:36] <titegtnodI> Maybe! It would be nice to see /anything/ XD
#535 [13:37] <joxer90x> i was playing 'for free' at the start.... till my ex baught me a mc account as a gift for not beating her for leaving me for one our common friends i guess >_>
#536 [13:37] <joxer90x> them pesky kids eh? lol
#537 [13:38] <joxer90x> joxer shares something personal > everyone shit bricks :) Hah C'est la vie
#538 [13:40] <clarjon1> titegtnodI: what don't you get? ;)
#539 [13:41] <titegtnodI> Everything!!
#540 [13:41] <titegtnodI> o.O she sounds horrible
#541 [13:41] <titegtnodI> At least you got MC out of it
#542 [13:42] <joxer90x> hah shes nice at the end, everything has a price in life.. sometimes its worth it, idc its been long ago.. so what we been together for 5 years, its been about the same since she left..
#543 [13:42] <joxer90x> titegtnodI: thank you man, you helped me allot. ill get afk for a break and a snack :)
#544 [13:42] <titegtnodI> No problem! Have fun nomin'!
#545 [13:43] <joxer90x> hehe ty :) hope i wont have anymore logs to pastebin in a while ^^"
#546 [13:43] <joxer90x> have fun mate~
#547 [13:45] <titegtnodI> HI DopeGhoti! MISS ME?!!??!
#548 [13:46] <titegtnodI> RETACH
#549 [13:46] <oldtopman> ...
#550 [13:51] <Wug> titegtnodI: long time no see
#551 [13:51] <titegtnodI> Hai Wug! Miss me? :D
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#560 [15:07] <Skydive> Hello again.
#561 [15:07] <Skydive> Yet i still have the same error and it has been, Umgh 2 months i guess.
#562 [15:08] <Skydive> Its a Pc issue.
#563 [15:08] <Skydive> since the others work fine hosting a minecraft server.
#564 [15:08] <Skydive> http://gyazo.com/8252555a576218118bc36f7a809dbf16
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#566 [15:09] <Skydive> ive tried changing the port, full reinstall of java, getting java 7 yet still no success.
#567 [15:09] <Skydive> Who here might have the faintest idea of whats wrong?
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#569 [15:11] <clarjon1> Skydive: something is already taking 25565
#570 [15:11] <clarjon1> try another port
#571 [15:11] <clarjon1> like 251234
#572 [15:11] <clarjon1> or 25123
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#574 [15:13] <Skydive> i have tried other ports
#575 [15:13] <Skydive> the fact is it doesnt work with ANY PORTS
#576 [15:13] <Skydive> it used to work fine in fact.
#577 [15:13] <Skydive> some time ago 5 months or so it stopped giving me that error
#578 [15:13] <Skydive> its extremely frustrating
#579 [15:13] <Skydive> no its not running in the background.
#580 [15:14] <Skydive> ive tried putting my local ip in the properties still no success.
#581 [15:17] <clarjon1> hm.
#582 [15:17] <clarjon1> what OS are you running it on
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#584 [15:19] <Xavier> Minecraft keeps closing itself out for no apparent reason after being in a world for over about 30 seconds. I am in version 1.2.5, and I do have a few mods installed if that makes any difference.
#585 [15:20] <Xavier> Does anyone have any idea about this?
#586 [15:20] <clarjon1> Xavier: does it do it without mods?
#587 [15:20] <Calinou> Xavier, install 64 bit java, likely issue, if you get "out of memory"
#588 [15:20] <clarjon1> Xavier: also, what OS do you have
#589 [15:21] <Xavier> I haven't gotten an out of memory issue, and the strange thing is it's performing beautifully FPS wise. My OS is windows XP.
#590 [15:21] <Xavier> I'm trying to recreate the issues on vanilla.
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#592 [15:23] <Xavier> I think it might also have something to do with the custom launcher I'm trying out.
#593 [15:23] <psymin> Hmm, am I supposed to be autovoiced in #minecraft if I'm identified?
#594 [15:23] <clarjon1> psymin: no
#595 [15:23] <clarjon1> you just can talk
#596 [15:23] <psymin> well that explains it :D
#597 [15:23] <psymin> * #minecraft :Cannot send to channel
#598 [15:23] <clarjon1> ah
#599 [15:23] <clarjon1> psymin: you need to check your email
#600 [15:23] <psymin> ahh thx
#601 [15:23] <clarjon1> nickserv says you've not completed your registration process
#602 [15:23] <psymin> darn auto deactivations for inactivity :)
#603 [15:25] <clarjon1> psymin: you need to check your email, and enter the command that is sent to you :P
#604 [15:26] <Xavier> It would seem that Minecraft crashes upon maximization. That's unusual...
#605 [15:26] <psymin> clarjon1: no email yet, wondering if I fat-fingerred it
#606 [15:26] <clarjon1> psymin: check spam?
#607 [15:26] <psymin> nada
#608 [15:26] <clarjon1> try /ns sendpass psymin
#609 [15:26] <psymin> -NickServ- psymin is not verified.
#610 [15:26] <clarjon1> hm.
#611 [15:27] <psymin> gonna try with another nick
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#613 [15:30] <psymin-sigh> thanks clarjon1, I used a new nick and a new email and it worked
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#615 [15:33] <Skydive> oh im sorry for timing out
#616 [15:33] <Skydive> my net crashed
#617 [15:33] <Skydive> my net crashed
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#619 [15:33] <Skydive> so does anyone have any ideas or debugging protocalls for me to initiate or would they like to connect over teamviewer?
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#621 [15:35] <Xavier> To answer your question (took a while) it would appear that Minecraft does alright without the mods installed.
#622 [15:36] <Xavier> So I guess there's nothing you can help me with then.
#623 [15:36] <Xavier> It's strange though, because this has only happened on this computer.
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#625 [15:38] <Skydive> i agree.
#626 [15:39] <Skydive> it might be something with my wireless
#627 [15:39] <Skydive> i dislike hamachi after using it because it messed with my pcs local ip and changed it to 101 so i uninstalled it
#628 [15:39] <Skydive> that was 6 months ago
#629 [15:39] <Skydive> my server was fine
#630 [15:39] <Skydive> and this issue
#631 [15:40] <Skydive> i can host any other server
#632 [15:40] <Skydive> even a html web server
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#634 [15:46] <Calinou> hamashi sucks :P
#635 [15:47] <Guest10516> My server is responding instantly, I have no lag at all. Yet, I'm getting spammed with 'Can't keep up' messages
#636 [15:47] <Guest10516> I have 3.6 GB of RAM and my sever is running on RAMdisk
#637 [15:47] <Skydive> i agree
#638 [15:47] <Guest10516> Why am I getting these messages?
#639 [15:47] <Skydive> i use port forwarding
#640 [15:47] <Skydive> i had to use hamachi whilst i was away from home.
#641 [15:47] <Skydive> what messages?
#642 [15:47] <Skydive> oh
#643 [15:47] <Skydive> i had those
#644 [15:47] <Skydive> put less ram in
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#646 [15:48] <Guest10516> Huh?
#647 [15:48] <Guest10516> Hold on
#648 [15:48] <Wejq> what is the irc chan for f.ex asking about minecraft code ?
#649 [15:48] <Wejq> is there any ?
#650 [15:48] <Calinou> about modding?
#651 [15:48] <Calinou> #risucraft but it's full of trolls.
#652 [15:48] <Wejq> sure
#653 [15:48] <Calinou> go there at your own risk 8D
#654 [15:49] <Wejq> damnit.
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#656 [15:49] <Wejq> wish me luck.
#657 [15:51] <Xavier> "Missing class member: public (Lxd;IIIIFI)V a, class: jx, mod: minecraftforge-client-3.0.1.75.zip" <-- Anyone have any idea what this means?
#658 [15:52] <JohnEBH> Xavier, try #risucraft?
#659 [15:53] <Wejq> forge, risucraft ?
#660 [15:53] <Xavier> I'm assuming it means the coder who made the class forgot to type "public" within the class scope. I need to know what it means because it might be the reason why minecraft keeps closing unexpectedly.
#661 [15:54] <Xavier> I'd rather not got to #risucraft if I don't have to though.
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#665 [16:00] <dave_the_slaave> Hello. I have a premium account for the pc version of the game. Does that include the mobile version aswell or do I have to pay extra for that one?
#666 [16:00] <JohnEBH> dave_the_slaave, You have to pay for the apps
#667 [16:01] <dave_the_slaave> ok, to bad
#668 [16:01] <dave_the_slaave> is it worth it? I've heard that it aint so good?
#669 [16:01] <JohnEBH> I've played around with the android app. It's alright, they just added mobs (sheep).
#670 [16:02] <dave_the_slaave> ok, so they are still adding things in it. cool
#671 [16:05] <dave_the_slaave> so thanks for the answer! Bye
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#686 [16:21] <GrimIphone> I'm so confused
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#696 [16:31] <superkabii> What a strange fellow...
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#699 [16:33] <HurtToMuch> hello? :)
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#702 [16:35] <HurtToMuch> is this the chat for account issues?
#703 [16:40] <HurtToMuch> i need some help with troubles with my payment.. i have now tried 4 times to buy the game. and one of which were not for my self but as a gift code. the gift code worked fine, but when i tried to buy for myself, nothing worked.. at all
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#705 [16:43] <staticip> Could anyhting bad happen making my comp have a static ip i need one to port forward
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#707 [16:45] <zkxs> nope
#708 [16:45] <zkxs> Is it a laptop?
#709 [16:45] <staticip> yes
#710 [16:46] <zkxs> And are you using wifi?
#711 [16:46] <staticip> i use wifi sometimes and plug into internet sometimes, usually plugged in
#712 [16:46] <staticip> i use wifi sometimes and plug into internet sometimes, usually plugged in
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#714 [16:46] <staticip> does that matter?
#715 [16:46] <lemon-rev> HurtToMuch dude, contact your bank and possibly make sure they arnt blocking the second transaction
#716 [16:46] <zkxs> Yeah
#717 [16:47] <staticip> :( so i have to use wifi?
#718 [16:47] <zkxs> no, it would be best if you didn't
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#721 [16:48] <zkxs> staticip: I suppose you want help setting this up? Would you rather do it via IRC or have me do it for you via remote desktop?
#722 [16:48] <staticip> i know how to do it someone already told me
#723 [16:49] <staticip> im just scared
#724 [16:49] <zkxs> Oh, ok then
#725 [16:49] <staticip> why does it matter if i use wifi or plugged in?
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#727 [16:49] <zkxs> Basically, you are overriding the 'automatic' default setting of your network adapter to manually choose an IP out of the dynamic range
#728 [16:50] <staticip> uh k, so what happens if i use wifi, no internet?
#729 [16:50] <zkxs> The wired and wireless adapters are two separate devices, and are configured individually
#730 [16:50] <zkxs> you'd get internet just fine
#731 [16:50] <staticip> once I do it will I be able to undo it>
#732 [16:50] <zkxs> the problem arises when you take your laptop to mcdonalds and try to use their wifi
#733 [16:50] <staticip> ?
#734 [16:51] <zkxs> yeah, it is undoable
#735 [16:51] <staticip> so i wont be able to use other people wifi??
#736 [16:51] <zkxs> Not unless you put it back to automatic mode
#737 [16:51] <zkxs> which is simple if you know how to do it
#738 [16:51] <staticip> how
#739 [16:52] <zkxs> You just select the 'automatically get ip' option
#740 [16:52] <zkxs> or whatever your version of windows calls it
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#742 [16:52] <staticip> but if i set it up while im using wired internet will wifi still work on other ppls networks
#743 [16:52] <zkxs> yes
#744 [16:52] <staticip> so use wired to avoid trouble
#745 [16:52] <zkxs> wired adapter settings don't affect your wireless card in any way
#746 [16:52] <zkxs> yes :)
#747 [16:53] <zkxs> chances are you won't plug in at mcdonalds :P
#748 [16:53] <staticip> lol yea
#749 [16:53] <staticip> im guunna try when i get home from school might need help :D
#750 [16:54] <zkxs> IRC at school what a rebel
#751 [16:54] <staticip> lolol
#752 [16:54] <staticip> on the business computers
#753 [16:54] <staticip> muhaha
#754 [16:55] <staticip> so i follow this guide while using wired internet right? http://portforward.com/networking/static-win7.htm
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#756 [16:56] <zkxs> yes, but you don't need to touch the DNS settings
#757 [16:56] <zkxs> just leave those on auto
#758 [16:58] <staticip> thats the bottom part of the prtocol window right?
#759 [16:58] <zkxs> yes
#760 [16:58] <staticip> ok
#761 [16:58] <staticip> if this dont work ill have to use hamachi :( lol
#762 [16:59] <zkxs> ?? fubar/hamachi
#763 [16:59] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#764 [16:59] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#765 [17:00] <zkxs> port forwarding is the proper way to do things
#766 [17:00] <staticip> ok, i hate hamachi anyway
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#789 [17:55] <staticip> im setting up a static ip for on my comp and need some help
#790 [17:56] <zkxs> the guide you linked to earlier was fine
#791 [17:56] <staticip> you said dont touch the DNS settings?
#792 [17:56] <zkxs> yeah
#793 [17:57] <zkxs> you *can* but you don't need to
#794 [17:57] <staticip> when i click the "use this Ip address is automaticly makes the DNS part say "use this server"
#795 [17:58] <fysics> does anyone here know where one would download old minecraft_server.jar files?
#796 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> fysics - There are no legal places to do that. Mojang does not host any old server .jars
#797 [17:58] <staticip> its forcing me to change those settings
#798 [17:59] * fysics flashes a $20
#798 [17:59] <Wug> ;flags eddie
#799 [17:59] <WugBot> eddie has (in #minecrafthelp) flags: c
#800 [17:59] <Wug> ;ping
#801 [17:59] <WugBot> Wug: ping
#802 [17:59] <Wug> Eddie: you can kick
#803 [17:59] <Eddie> !kick Eddie
#804 [17:59] <Eddie> ;kick Eddie
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#807 [18:00] <Eddie> ok...
#808 [18:01] <staticip> whats wrong with changing the dns settings
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#811 [18:01] <cjmaxibon> PLEASE does anyone have a way to recover a hacked account?! :(
#812 [18:01] <zkxs> staticip: nothing, it is just unnecessary, like double knotting your shoes
#813 [18:02] <zkxs> cjmaxibon: only if you still have the email
#814 [18:02] <staticip> ok so then I guess I have to
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#816 [18:03] <cjmaxibon> my email got changed though, i sent a forgot username to my email (thinking i got the username worng) but it never even sent.
#817 [18:04] <Grim_Reaper> You might need to email mojang about it then
#818 [18:04] <cjmaxibon> Ok thanks.
#819 [18:04] <Grim_Reaper> You can send them an email on their site. Not too sure of the exact link
#820 [18:04] <Grim_Reaper> BUt it'll be somewhere on their help area at mojang.com
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#822 [18:09] <staticip> so I need to pick my own ip address? how do i know if another device is using it tho
#823 [18:10] <Grim_Reaper> In the event that you're using an ip address thats already being used
#824 [18:10] <Grim_Reaper> it'll tell you
#825 [18:10] <staticip> so i just change the last #
#826 [18:10] <Grim_Reaper> You can try
#827 [18:11] <Grim_Reaper> [23:59] * fysics flashes a $20
#828 [18:11] <Grim_Reaper> lold
#829 [18:12] <staticip> in the DNS server part i put the same # in both boxes?
#830 [18:12] <Grim_Reaper> The dns depends on the ip and such
#831 [18:13] <Grim_Reaper> Why aren't you using automatically assign though?
#832 [18:13] <staticip> if I click "use following Ip" it wont let me click automatic DNS
#833 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> I assume you're using windows?
#834 [18:14] <staticip> windows 7
#835 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> Ok so lets see. You want to use a static ip.
#836 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Then use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
#837 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Free google DNS
#838 [18:15] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#839 [18:15] <staticip> o.O
#840 [18:16] <staticip> http://portforward.com/networking/static-win7.htm the thing i dont get with this guide is it shows where to get the #'s from but then below where they are entered the #'s are different
#841 [18:17] <staticip> oooo i c
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#843 [18:52] <Wug> Eddie: doooooopers
#844 [18:52] <Eddie> ?
#845 [18:52] <Wug> whalla whalla ding dong
#846 [18:52] <Wug> you can kick with wugbot
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#848 [18:53] <Eddie> yes Wug
#849 [18:53] <Eddie> thanks
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#851 [18:53] <Wug> for the record
#852 [18:54] <Wug> that was no google bot
#853 [18:54] <Mugix> does the y coordinate show the block I'm standing on, or the block my feet are in?
#854 [18:54] <Wug> if it comes back, kick it
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#856 [18:56] <TheNoodle> fuuu, took the name as well :(
#857 [18:56] <Wug> not completed registration verification
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#859 [18:56] <TheNoodle> excellent.
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#861 [18:57] <Wug> lol ok
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#863 [19:13] <blue> Hello, can anyone help me out with some texture back issues?
#864 [19:15] <blue> Anyone?
#865 [19:15] <Magix> ssup
#866 [19:16] <blue> Nm cant play any MC cause whenever i go on a server all the blocks are a dark blue color
#867 [19:19] <Wug> blue: cant you just revert to the original texture pack?
#868 [19:19] <Wug> if that doesnt work, try force updating
#869 [19:20] <blue> Yes i am on the Original Texture pack.
#870 [19:21] <blue> and i did force update
#871 [19:21] <blue> still same problemmaybe
#872 [19:21] <Wug> try updating your graphics drivers?
#873 [19:21] <Wug> >maybe?
#874 [19:21] <blue> Cant find any updates
#875 [19:21] <blue> I think its an intergrated card thats why.
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#877 [19:22] <blue> Its werid cause when i play Singleplayer everything is a dark blue all the blocks except trees for some reason.
#878 [19:24] <Wug> :dx > blue
#879 [19:24] <WugBot> blue: (dx) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#880 [19:24] <WugBot> blue: (dx) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
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#883 [19:27] <blue> http://pastebin.com/4ExCiaui
#884 [19:28] <Wug> oh god lol, your driver turns 9 this year
#885 [19:28] <Wug> its older than my cat :S
#886 [19:28] <blue> Woot :D
#887 [19:28] <Wug> your graphics card is pretty old too. you might be out of luck
#888 [19:29] <blue> :(
#889 [19:29] <Wug> I do have a linux box with a similar card and it runs minecraft (poorly, but it does work properly)
#890 [19:29] <Wug> you might try ubuntu
#891 [19:29] <Finamenon> display memory 32megs? the hell... does that sttill exist?
#892 [19:29] <blue> I had a better computer then the motherboard magically cracked
#893 [19:29] <blue> Whats ubuntu?
#894 [19:32] <Wug> blue: download and install this driver: http://drivers.s3graphics.com/en/download/drivers/legacy/ProSavageDDR_420/S3G_ProSavageDDR_winxp_v139433.exe
#895 [19:32] <blue> Will it fix my problem? Lol
#896 [19:33] <clarjon1> possibly?
#897 [19:33] <blue> Good enough
#898 [19:33] <clarjon1> blue: your video card is VERY outdated.
#899 [19:33] <blue> Well i recently attainted it from a good friend so yea lol.
#900 [19:33] <blue> For a cheap price of 0$ lol
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#903 [19:36] <blue> Hmmph apparently i already downloaded this update.
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#905 [19:40] <blue> Alright Wug thanks for the help, ill go scavenger some money hopefully and buy a nice new desktop/laptop
#906 [19:41] <blue> Have a great one.
#907 [19:41] <Wug> blue: you might try uninstalling the driver you have
#908 [19:41] <Wug> FFFFf
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#914 [20:08] <Magix> Does anyone have the enchanting probability charts?
#915 [20:08] <Magix> there was a nice list of graphs
#916 [20:08] <Magix> but that website is down now
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#920 [20:32] <Silv3erbolt> any1 here , i need some help
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#922 [20:34] <Silv3erbolt> i have some prob with the game , i have te bug report ...
#923 [20:34] <mindstorm8191> hi, anyone know how to fix a java error 1723?
#924 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> ; java/1723
#925 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> ;java/1723
#926 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> ;search 1723
#927 [20:34] <WugBot> Matches for "1723": error/1723
#928 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> ;error/1723
#929 [20:35] * GreyVulpine stabs Wugbot
#929 [20:35] <mindstorm8191> ...lol
#930 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> :error/1723
#931 [20:35] <WugBot> error/1723: If you have made changes to your registry, you may experience issues installing or uninstalling java.
#932 [20:35] <WugBot> error/1723: You may be able to repair these issues automatically with this tool: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
#933 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> ^
#934 [20:35] <mindstorm8191> ...ah-hah, thanks dude
#935 [20:35] <mindstorm8191> I'll check it out, let you know if it work
#936 [20:35] <GreyVulpine> We've had good luck with MS's tool on that specific error
#937 [20:37] <mindstorm8191> sounds good. I tried reinstalling java already, and then can't uninstall it, so... should be good
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#939 [20:37] <thadude420> hi there, bit of a strange one here that I can't seem to find any precendent for
#940 [20:38] <thadude420> since the newest update, I can't place or destroy blocks without it doing it twice 80% of the time
#941 [20:38] <thadude420> so this is constantly screwing up my circuits and breaking glass and all sorts of other mayhem that makes playing a huge pain
#942 [20:38] <thadude420> any ideas?
#943 [20:39] <mindstorm8191> thadude, I had alot of issues with double placing, it has to do with your PC running slow
#944 [20:40] <mindstorm8191> ...but I can't offer any solutions
#945 [20:40] <thadude420> i thought so, so graphically minimized everything, eliminated cloud cover etc
#946 [20:40] <mindstorm8191> you might also try resetting your pc
#947 [20:40] <thadude420> crazy that a dual core 2ghz processor has such trouble rendering this game
#948 [20:40] <thadude420> you mean a format?
#949 [20:40] <mindstorm8191> no, just reset
#950 [20:40] <thadude420> i've restarted and defragged and all taht stuff
#951 [20:40] <mindstorm8191> oh... same deal? no idea then
#952 [20:41] <thadude420> its only since the update, which i didn't do until yesterday
#953 [20:41] <thadude420> hadn't played since the "official" release came out
#954 [20:41] <thadude420> is it because i'm running the server too?
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#956 [20:41] <thadude420> how much of a load does that place on the processor?
#957 [20:41] <mindstorm8191> that... might cause a lot of issues, ya know...
#958 [20:42] <thadude420> what the late update or running the server and the client on the same laptop?
#959 [20:42] <mindstorm8191> running a server is like running a whole second copy of the game at the same time
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#961 [20:42] <thadude420> oh
#962 [20:42] <thadude420> and i had tons of stuff built, which I'm sure adds to the complexity
#963 [20:42] <mindstorm8191> if your going to run a server well, you need a dedicated pc
#964 [20:43] <thadude420> alrighty, I guess that will be my next investment for minecraft... haha
#965 [20:43] <thadude420> solo for a while i guess
#966 [20:43] <abzolutez3ro> hey all. back again! >_<. so brand new windows7 install.. installed java7 only and for some reason java7 won't let minecraft or any other java app connect to the internet
#967 [20:43] <thadude420> thanks for the help I'm sure thats the issue
#968 [20:43] <thadude420> thanks for the help I'm sure thats the issue
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#970 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's been known to cause problems
#971 [20:43] <abzolutez3ro> java6u31 works fine but i need java7 to run my tekkit server
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#973 [20:44] <abzolutez3ro> and i can't run both at the sametime because i can't force minecraft to use java6 cuz i don't know how
#974 [20:44] <abzolutez3ro> and i can't run both at the sametime because i can't force minecraft to use java6 cuz i don't know how
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#976 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> With a command line
#977 [20:45] <abzolutez3ro> ya i know that. but i can't find a good command that will work
#978 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#979 [20:45] <abzolutez3ro> win7 64biyt
#980 [20:45] <abzolutez3ro> like they say do a batch file, and i get that, but i must be doing it wrong cuz it's not working
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#982 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> abzolutez3ro - What are you putting in that batch file?
#983 [20:45] <abzolutez3ro> no one will show me exactly the batch file to write for it to work
#984 [20:46] <abzolutez3ro> java set path=%PATH%;C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin technic-launcher.jar pause
#985 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> The.. crap.
#986 [20:46] <abzolutez3ro> so i tried that but is says something about class files or shit
#987 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> First question, do you have the batch file in the same directory as technic-launcher.jar?
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#989 [20:51] <Pr0xSkillz> its been several days since i was charged for my premium account and i still cant play
#990 [20:51] <Pr0xSkillz> how can i fix this?
#991 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> Pr0xSkillz - First off, contact your bank or financial institution, make sure payment was actually made on their end
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#993 [20:52] <Pr0xSkillz> i have
#994 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> If it was, you can contact Mojang through http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#995 [20:52] <Pr0xSkillz> it actually went through with moneybrookers
#996 [20:52] <Pr0xSkillz> sent them an email and not getting any replies back
#997 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's backed up with emails. They've got a month or three of backlog
#998 [20:53] <Pr0xSkillz> their automated forum tells me that they are still workingg on emails from back in december...
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#1000 [20:53] * GreyVulpine nods
#1000 [20:53] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, it's the only way to contact Mojang officially.
#1001 [20:53] <stealth5294> im trying to purchase a premium account but it tells me my account is closed
#1002 [20:53] <Pr0xSkillz> so im stuck not being able to play even tho i was charged? thats janky
#1003 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Pr0xSkillz - Did you use a credit card?
#1004 [20:54] <Pr0xSkillz> yes
#1005 [20:54] <GreyVulpine> Pr0xSkillz - Did you call your credit card directly?
#1006 [20:54] <Pr0xSkillz> my credit card is attached to my bank account
#1007 [20:55] <Pr0xSkillz> ive called, checked online and went to my bank and it all confirms i was charged 26.97
#1008 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> What we frequently see, is that banks or credit cards stop/hold payments because Mojang is based in Sweden, and most of the payments are considered international payments
#1009 [20:55] <Pr0xSkillz> hmmm...even if it was moneybrookers that took it out?
#1010 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> With international payments, automatic anti-fraud protection measures are often used, preventing money from going overseas without the consumer's knowledge
#1011 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#1012 [20:56] <Pr0xSkillz> oh wow, didnt know that one. Thank you. i will have to talk to my institution about that one tomorrow
#1013 [20:56] <Pr0xSkillz> thank you for your time :)
#1014 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's system is actually very infrequently the cause of payment issues like this. Their system just flags the account as premium when they receive word from their bank that payment was made
#1015 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's system is actually very infrequently the cause of payment issues like this. Their system just flags the account as premium when they receive word from their bank that payment was made
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#1017 [20:57] <stealth5294> im trying to purchase a premium account but it tells me my minecraft account is closed
#1018 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> stealth5294 - Closed?
#1019 [20:57] <fenster> is there any easy way to upgrade to new ver of server(linux) other then just reinstalling and copying the world file over?
#1020 [20:57] <stealth5294> yeah it gives me an error message
#1021 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> fenster - Just replace the server binary with the new file
#1022 [20:58] <fenster> ahh good idea
#1023 [20:58] <fenster> thanks!
#1024 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Everything else, can stay the same
#1025 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> stealth5294 - This is probably something you'll need to take up with Mojang Proper. You can contact them at: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1026 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, we don't work for Mojang here, we're just community-based support.
#1027 [20:58] <stealth5294> k ill try it thanks
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#1029 [21:03] <stealth5294> have you heard of this problem before tho?
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#1033 [21:11] <mindstorm8191> ooooh, its working, its working! lol
#1034 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> yay!
#1035 [21:12] <mindstorm8191> yay! full screen mode too! lol
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#1040 [21:41] <tydek07> Can someone help me with IRC in McForge? I cannot get it working.
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#1042 [21:52] <timeouterrorman> so apparently whenever i try to join my friends server i get Downloading terrain and sometimes when it finishes i fall through the ground going beyond the bedrock stuff =/ it happens on non modded servers , and modded servers but it doesnt happen in single player? could anybody help me please :[
#1043 [21:52] <nekronuke> I assume its bad connection
#1044 [21:53] <nekronuke> Crap internet?
#1045 [21:53] <timeouterrorman> on my side or the server?
#1046 [21:53] <timeouterrorman> the server has gaming internet :3
#1047 [21:53] <clarjon1> timeouterrorman: go to speedtest.net
#1048 [21:53] <clarjon1> find out how good your connection is
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#1053 [22:10] <jimbo1qaz> No Inventory, Chat
#1054 [22:10] <jimbo1qaz> nothing appears
#1055 [22:11] <jimbo1qaz> classic
#1056 [22:26] <timeouterrorman> ping 25 ms download speed 12.28 mbps upload speed 1.47 mbps
#1057 [22:34] <oldtopman> timeouterrorman: Does this happen on any other servers?
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#1065 [22:52] <jessword> how can i find the ip for my server
#1066 [22:53] <oldtopman> jessword: http://www.whatsmyip.org/
#1067 [22:53] <jessword> my beastnode server
#1068 [22:54] <jessword> yes no what
#1069 [22:54] <oldtopman> What?
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#1071 [22:55] <jessword> im trying to find the ip for my beastnode server
#1072 [22:56] <jessword> how can i find the ip
#1073 [22:56] <jessword> server ip
#1074 [22:57] <oldtopman> jessword: No idea. Call beastnode and they should be able to help you.
#1075 [23:01] <jimbo1qaz> No inventory, no chat
#1076 [23:01] <jimbo1qaz> Using munecraft classic multiplayer
#1077 [23:01] <jimbo1qaz> started when typing /rules
#1078 [23:01] <jimbo1qaz> clear java cache: no use
#1079 [23:01] <jimbo1qaz> ffox 12
#1080 [23:01] <jimbo1qaz> beta
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#1082 [23:05] <Gurkenglas> Does minecraft.net provide earlier versions of minecraft for download? Would be helpful, since I wanted to install a mod that only works with a deprecated version
#1083 [23:06] <oldtopman> Nope.
#1084 [23:06] <Gurkenglas> Can someone upload me a 1.2.3 .jar?
#1085 [23:06] <oldtopman> Nope.
#1086 [23:06] <oldtopman> Notch sez no redistributing files.
#1087 [23:07] <Gurkenglas> hmmmm
#1088 [23:07] <Gurkenglas> If someone has both the 1.2.3 jar and the 1.2.5 jar he might be able to export the differences between them into a patch file and send me that
#1089 [23:07] <Gurkenglas> That shouldnt be forbidden, as I already have a version of Minecraft (or it wouldnt work)
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#1091 [23:09] <oldtopman> Gurkenglas: Good idea. Go make one. And note that the patch cannot contain any of the sub-files.
#1092 [23:10] <Gurkenglas> I could make one if I had the 1.2.3 jar
#1093 [23:10] <Gurkenglas> hmmmm
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#1095 [23:10] <Gurkenglas> Im bet Im not the first one with this problem or this solution idea
#1096 [23:10] <Gurkenglas> *I
#1097 [23:10] <Gurkenglas> Actually, I bet this problem isnt specific to Minecraft
#1098 [23:11] <Gurkenglas> Someone else should already have done something like that
#1099 [23:11] <Gurkenglas> Is there a common term I could google to see if someone else already made it for 1.2.5->1.2.3?
#1100 [23:13] <Gurkenglas> Ooh! Found something! "MCPatcher". Thanks ... I guess.
#1101 [23:13] <oldtopman> Again, we can't help you as they are likely illegal.
#1102 [23:13] <oldtopman> But, good luck with it.
#1103 [23:14] <oldtopman> If you find a legal one, let us know.
#1104 [23:14] <Gurkenglas> Is it more illegal than using any kind of mod?
#1105 [23:17] <oldtopman> The One Major Rule
#1106 [23:17] <oldtopman> Do not distribute anything we've made.
#1107 [23:18] <oldtopman> https://www.minecraft.net/terms
#1108 [23:19] <Gurkenglas> that means, the Minecraft Coding Project is illegal?
#1109 [23:20] <oldtopman> What's that?
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#1111 [23:21] <Gurkenglas> Oh, "Minecraft Coder Pack"
#1112 [23:22] <Gurkenglas> A project that decomiples the source of each version and deobfuscates it so people can write mods without modifying the assembly code
#1113 [23:22] <Gurkenglas> Pretty much any mod I know is written using it
#1114 [23:23] <oldtopman> That's legit. Doesn't actually redistribute the game, but decompiles it.
#1115 [23:23] <oldtopman> Where is it, btw?
#1116 [23:23] <Gurkenglas> What do you mean, where
#1117 [23:24] <oldtopman> Where can I download it?
#1118 [23:24] <Gurkenglas> #mcp-modding
#1119 [23:24] <Gurkenglas> The one major rule "also includes modified versions of anything we've made." Isnt decompiling&deobfuscating modifying it?
#1120 [23:24] <clarjon1> Gurkenglas: look for mcnostalgia
#1121 [23:25] <Gurkenglas> hmk
#1122 [23:25] <clarjon1> a notch "Meh"'d solution
#1123 [23:28] <oldtopman> no.
#1124 [23:28] <oldtopman> That means no *redistrubuting* modded versions
#1125 [23:28] <oldtopman> Not no making them.
#1126 [23:29] <Gurkenglas> oldtopman, but they provide ways for ppl to download those modded versions
#1127 [23:29] <oldtopman> *sigh*
#1128 [23:29] <oldtopman> I'm not a lawyer
#1129 [23:29] <oldtopman> If you're looking for old stuff, you can't get it. If you can, it's illegel.
#1130 [23:30] <oldtopman> illegal*
#1131 [23:30] <oldtopman> End of discussion.
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#1133 [23:31] <Gurkenglas_> Huh, EspetNet disconnected me after my last post. did I miss anything?
#1134 [23:31] <Gurkenglas_> *r
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#1136 [23:32] <Gurkenglas_> (my last post being from 29:31)
#1137 [23:32] <oldtopman> <oldtopman> *sigh*
#1138 [23:32] <oldtopman> <oldtopman> I'm not a lawyer
#1139 [23:32] <oldtopman> <oldtopman> If you're looking for old stuff, you can't get it. If you can, it's illegel.
#1140 [23:32] <oldtopman> <oldtopman> illegal*
#1141 [23:32] <oldtopman> <oldtopman> End of discussion.
#1142 [23:32] <oldtopman> This is pretty damn annoying.
#1143 [23:33] <Gurkenglas> You are the founder?
#1144 [23:33] * oldtopman stabs GreyVulpine
#1144 [23:33] <oldtopman> Nope.
#1145 [23:33] <Gurkenglas> Dude, when someone asks you "Are you God?" You don't say "Nope."
#1146 [23:34] <oldtopman> I do.
#1147 [23:34] <oldtopman> What's your point?
#1148 [23:34] <Gurkenglas> MCNostalgias dev indeed did say that Notch didnt reply to him...
#1149 [23:35] <oldtopman> Yes, mcnostalgia exists, and notch said meh like clarjon1 said.
#1150 [23:36] <oldtopman> Anything else I can help you with besides downgrading?
#1151 [23:36] <clarjon1> use mcnostalgia
#1152 [23:36] <clarjon1> it does the downgrade patch
#1153 [23:37] <Gurkenglas> clarjon, it says that its patch files are for 1.8.1?
#1154 [23:37] <clarjon1> other than that, keep your own backups of the vanilla jars :)
#1155 [23:38] <clarjon1> Gurkenglas: did you read the text at the top of the topic
#1156 [23:38] <clarjon1> the blue text
#1157 [23:39] <clarjon1> "See here for MCNostalgia 2.0, sonicrules1234 is taking over for now," etc etc
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#1159 [23:39] <Gurkenglas> hmk, thanks
#1160 [23:39] <Gurkenglas> I read that, but didnt realize the following post wasnt about the current MCNostalgia
#1161 [23:40] <clarjon1> he left the old post up for historical reasons
#1162 [23:40] <clarjon1> and so that people who had bookmarked his mod could have a link to the new one
#1163 [23:42] <Gurkenglas> Heh, that was easy. Thanks!
#1164 [23:42] * clarjon1 tips his hat
#1164 [23:44] <Gurkenglas> Didnt Notch say some months ago that he supports piracy?
#1165 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> Um, no
#1166 [23:44] <Gurkenglas> Or something along those lines
#1167 [23:44] <oldtopman> He said that piracy != theft
#1168 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> He said he didn't mind people pirating minecraft, if they paid for it afterwards, and felt sorry until they do
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#1170 [23:45] <oldtopman> ^This
#1171 [23:45] <Gurkenglas> hmk
#1172 [23:46] <oldtopman> feh
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