#1 [00:01] <madgreenb> this time it DID crash
#2 [00:02] <Wug> ok, its probably a driver issue that you'd have to do something horrible to fix
#3 [00:02] <madgreenb> ?
#4 [00:02] <madgreenb> what would that be?
#5 [00:05] <Wug> I dont know :/
#6 [00:05] <Wug> Its probably specific to your hardware and your distro
#7 [00:05] <madgreenb> if i reinstalled mint do you think it would work? it works fine on windows, but on mint it doesnt :/
#8 [00:05] <Wug> if a fix exists at all
#9 [00:05] <Wug> try google first
#10 [00:05] <madgreenb> ive been trying google
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#12 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> Is there something else other that Minecraft that would be able to replicate the same sort of issue?
#13 [00:06] <madgreenb> is there a way to check if i installed the proptietary drivers correctly?
#14 [00:06] <Wug> madgreenb: on mint? I dont know.
#15 [00:07] <madgreenb> :/
#16 [00:07] <Wug> youre on your own on this one
#17 [00:07] <madgreenb> well thanks for the help, whatever it was worth
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#19 [00:12] <madgreenb> wug i just want to say thanks. i found out that i forgot to install mt gfx card driver (derp) and the problem is fixed (although i had to replace those files, so you helped tons) :)
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#23 [00:43] <mib_hbpd8h> hi guys im trying to change my email adress . but nothing is being sent...
#24 [00:44] <mib_hbpd8h> its been a week already
#25 [00:44] <mib_hbpd8h> please help
#26 [00:46] <mickster04> what is the new email address?
#27 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/ also has some help in regard to changing your email, over at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#28 [00:48] <mib_hbpd8h> @mickster04 how will that answer my question? not trying to be rude or anything
#29 [00:48] <mickster04> well my thinking is that your new email is didgy
#30 [00:48] <mickster04> dodgy*
#31 [00:48] <mickster04> but follow the link first
#32 [00:50] <mib_hbpd8h> well the thing is though... the email i registered with minecraft is deactivated.
#33 [00:50] <mib_hbpd8h> thats why i want to change it to my new one
#34 [00:51] <mib_hbpd8h> and i can't find my transaction ID
#35 [00:51] <mib_hbpd8h> :S
#36 [00:51] <Wug> do you have the password for the account?
#37 [00:58] <mib_hbpd8h> yep i can log into my account anytime
#38 [00:58] <mib_hbpd8h> its just i want to change my email registered on it
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#43 [02:02] <FusionX> For the past few days, whichever server I join, for the first few seconds response is good but after that the server no longer responds and I get disconnected, I can then reconnect but this repeats
#44 [02:02] <FusionX> this problem been off and on for a while
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#48 [02:12] <Freddo> Is anyone else having issues accesing the Minecraft Forums?
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#66 [03:55] <efa> I could use some help seting a cuboid. I can set them all over the place except the one area I need. It keeps defining the one region as a flat plane and not as a cuboid. Help if you can :)
#67 [03:56] <efa> I will gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today.
#68 [03:58] <efa> http://108.170.2.130:8127/ is my dnymap where you can see my issue.
#69 [03:58] <efa> dyn*
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#71 [04:13] <efa> problem solved.
#72 [04:14] <efa> <3
#73 [04:14] <efa> <3
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#116 [08:00] <Valliona> Hello.
#117 [08:00] <Valliona> I was wondering if someone could help me with something.
#118 [08:01] <Valliona> On multiplayer can you make a barrier that prevents non-op characters from entering a specific area?
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#121 [08:02] <lemon-rev> you can make doors and stuff if you have a catagory system on your server
#122 [08:04] <Valliona> I'm playing a server with two friends, one that I'm working with and the other is trying to find our house.
#123 [08:04] <Valliona> Doesn't using a category system only stop them interacting with bricks?
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#125 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> Valliona - Look up Worldguard
#126 [08:07] <Valliona> GreyVulpine - I'll have a look, I just hope I can use it with Tekkit.
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#146 [10:01] <NinjaKirby> I run Windows 7. I have a Microsoft Web Camera. It can't find drivers for it online. What the flying fudge, why is it making me work for this -_-
#147 [10:01] <Calinou> is that related to minecraft?
#148 [10:01] <Calinou> 8D
#149 [10:01] <Calinou> next time don't use microsoft stuff
#150 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> NinjaKirby: which web camera are you using?
#151 [10:02] <NinjaKirby> It's not, I just had to vent somewhere :P
#152 [10:02] <NinjaKirby> I've had this for ages, and it's worked itself out fine in the past. Just strange it doesn't want to now. "What's changed!?" is all I ask, heh.
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#173 [12:04] <slimeone> help with registration!
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#177 [12:16] <Morrolan> slimeone - Will help for food!
#178 [12:16] <Morrolan> No, seriously, mind being a bit more specific?
#179 [12:18] <slimeone> hehe yeah sorry, i have paid, but dont get premium, something u can help me with?
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#181 [12:23] <Morrolan> Could be several things. Either your payment got blocked by your credit card provider due to fraud prevention, in this case you will have to call them. Or it could be that the payment simply didn't get processed yet, in this case you'll have to wait.
#182 [12:23] <Morrolan> If it has been more than two days you can be pretty certain that the payment didn't get through.
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#184 [12:29] <slimeone> okey, i did talk to my bank today and the payment is done that was all they could say, but it seems to been stuck after that in some way, i did use moneybookers if u know if it use to take several days via them? and i tried to contact them, but no answer so i guess i just wait then?
#185 [12:41] <Morrolan> Every now and then payments take up to two days with moneybookers, yea. So waiting probably couldn't hurt.
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#187 [12:41] <Morrolan> And if your bank confirmed that the payment went through then that's fine I guess.
#188 [12:45] <slimeone> okey, then i will wait couple of days, and hope for the best. but if i still dosent get me premium after these days, is it your support i should contact? or try to contact mooneybookers again?
#189 [12:46] <Wug> you could try both
#190 [12:48] <slimeone> okey here or through mojang? and thanks for the help i got :)
#191 [12:50] <Wug> mojang has a slow respone time
#192 [12:50] <Wug> response*
#193 [12:50] <Wug> here would be faster
#194 [12:50] <Wug> there might not be much we can do
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#196 [12:54] <slimeone> oh that dont sounds good :( you cant check in the system or something?
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#199 [12:57] <Wug> slimeone: were volunteers, we cant check that stuff
#200 [12:58] <Impure> Hello, I run my server on windows, I want to set a color for each line that appears on commands, like INFO in blue / SAY in yellow / ... does anyone can help me ? is that possible ?
#201 [12:59] <slimeone> wug: aha i see, okey then hold your thumbs for me :)
#202 [12:59] <Wug> Impure: you'd need to use a mod or something
#203 [12:59] <JohnEBH> Fancy huh.
#204 [12:59] <Wug> you might ask in #bukkit
#205 [12:59] <Impure> so, it is a mod i have to add ?
#206 [13:06] <Impure> i tried to get a mod like that on bukkit, but i think nobody really need ^^
#207 [13:08] <Impure> thanks for your help
#208 [13:08] <Impure> thanks for your help
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#212 [13:21] <the_g_man254> r
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#217 [13:40] <the_g_man254> fhi
#218 [13:40] <the_g_man254> hi
#219 [13:40] <the_g_man254> hello?
#220 [13:40] <the_g_man254> meh
#221 [13:42] <peru> hi
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#225 [13:56] <Jessiex> hi
#226 [13:56] <Jessiex> i need help installing the x-ray mod o.0
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#228 [13:57] <Morrolan> Well well, these guy's intentions were kinda *puts on sunglasses* see-through
#229 [13:57] <Jessiex> anyone help me install the xray mod?
#230 [13:57] <Morrolan> Follow the instructions in the mod's thread. :)
#231 [13:57] <Jessiex> i did
#232 [13:57] <Jessiex> my minecraft screen is completely black
#233 [13:57] <Jessiex> i deleted the META-INF folder
#234 [13:57] <GreyVulpine> From where did you download the xray mod from?
#235 [13:57] <Morrolan> Then you either forgot to remove meta-inf, did not install any dependcy the mod has, like modloader, or it's not updated.
#236 [13:58] <Jessiex> i downloaded it from the forums...
#237 [13:58] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us the link?
#238 [13:58] <Jessiex> someone install it for me? :)
#239 [13:58] <Jessiex> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/639823-125x-ray-n-dtdb/
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#241 [13:59] <GreyVulpine> Did you install modloader as well?
#242 [13:59] <Jessiex> yep
#243 [14:00] <GreyVulpine> Got teamviewer?
#244 [14:00] <Jessiex> yep
#245 [14:00] <Jessiex> 1 sec
#246 [14:02] <Jessiex> anyone help me? coz greyvulpine aint replying
#247 [14:02] <Jessiex> no?
#248 [14:02] <GreyVulpine> I'm right here
#249 [14:03] <Jessiex> i pm'd u
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#252 [14:18] <Jessiex> thanks grey ^.^
#253 [14:18] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#253 [14:18] <Jessiex> anyways, bye! :D
#254 [14:24] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - So, who was the culprit?
#255 [14:28] <GreyVulpine> Wrong version of the mod, they had 1.8.1 and 1.1 of xray downloaded
#256 [14:29] <GreyVulpine> (They also had minecraftSP downloaded, but login worked on a normal client, so I didn't say anything)
#257 [14:34] <Morrolan> Heh.
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#273 [16:25] <kenshin2666> hey, i was wondering if i could ask a question about minecraft running with an intel HD graphics card
#274 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#275 [16:26] <kenshin2666> first, is it actually supported? cause i know often games of all sorts dont like intel
#276 [16:26] <GreyVulpine> It's supported, sure, but it won't run minecraft well
#277 [16:27] <kenshin2666> when i try to run the install i get
#278 [16:27] <kenshin2666> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#279 [16:27] <kenshin2666> yet my drivers are updated to the most recent
#280 [16:27] <kenshin2666> yet my drivers are updated to the most recent
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#282 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> kenshin2666 - From where did you update them from?
#283 [16:29] <kenshin2666> tried both intel's and toshiba's sites
#284 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> You.. don't happen to have a Toshiba c660?
#285 [16:29] <kenshin2666> L655
#286 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. I see.
#287 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM?
#288 [16:32] <kenshin2666> 4GB
#289 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> That should be enough. Intel chipsets usually share system memory to do graphics acceleration.
#290 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Were you able to update the video drivers from intel's site successfully?
#291 [16:33] <kenshin2666> darn i didnt realize the time, i need to run to catch the train for school X_x
#292 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah, alright.
#293 [16:33] <kenshin2666> they updated and everything yet the problem persists
#294 [16:33] <kenshin2666> i'll try to be back in an hour or two lol
#295 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> When you come back, give us a dxdiag
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#297 [16:44] <qwerty> hello, i have a problem minecraft server on my linux os, centos.
#298 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#299 [16:45] <qwerty> i have installed plugin, now i wanna remove them
#300 [16:45] <qwerty> how can i uninstall them
#301 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> Delete the plugin from the plugins folder
#302 [16:46] <qwerty> i deleted but when i start server with this command: screen sh minecraft.sh
#303 [16:46] <qwerty> i have an error about plugins
#304 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> What is the error? Could you pastebin.com the server.log?
#305 [16:47] <qwerty> 23:46:44 [SEVERE] at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:334)
#306 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me more of the error?
#307 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Paste it at www.pastebin.com
#308 [16:49] <qwerty> http://pastebin.com/EeCjJzUp
#309 [16:51] <qwerty> greyvulpine did you see it
#310 [16:53] <qwerty> greyvulpine
#311 [16:55] <AmberK> I'll look at it if you want
#312 [16:55] <AmberK> That's easy
#313 [16:56] <qwerty> you can look
#314 [16:56] <AmberK> Update your AntiCreeper
#315 [16:56] <AmberK> it's 3.4.2
#316 [16:56] <AmberK> Which won't support an enderdragon
#317 [16:57] <qwerty> how can i update
#318 [16:57] <qwerty> i will upload more error log
#319 [16:57] <qwerty> pls wait
#320 [16:58] <qwerty> http://pastebin.com/BxsgWTLZ
#321 [16:58] <AmberK> Download it from here: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/anticreeper
#322 [16:58] <qwerty> pls look http://pastebin.com/BxsgWTLZ
#323 [16:59] <AmberK> I saw
#324 [16:59] <AmberK> update anticreeper
#325 [16:59] <AmberK> that other one might be mismatched worldguard and worldedit versions
#326 [16:59] <AmberK> But one thing at a time
#327 [17:01] <qwerty> i uploaded anticreeper again
#328 [17:01] <qwerty> i started server again with this command : screen sh minecraft.sh
#329 [17:02] <AmberK> that won't effect the errors
#330 [17:03] <qwerty> how can i fix error ?
#331 [17:03] <AmberK> Start it normally
#332 [17:03] <AmberK> let's see what new errors there are...
#333 [17:04] <AmberK> If it's just the last one, then we'll just update worldguard and worldedit
#334 [17:04] <qwerty> http://pastebin.com/A0bMkfVw
#335 [17:04] <qwerty> this is last error messages
#336 [17:04] <qwerty> can you give me a link about worldedit worldguard
#337 [17:05] <AmberK> One sec
#338 [17:05] <AmberK> http://build.sk89q.com/
#339 [17:06] <qwerty> i cant find download button
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#341 [17:07] <AmberK> Ok
#342 [17:07] <AmberK> go to that link
#343 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.sk89q.com/projects/worldedit/
#344 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/worldguard/
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#346 [17:08] <AmberK> Is the bukkitdev worldguard compat with dev worldedit?
#347 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea
#348 [17:09] <AmberK> Then give him this xD : http://build.sk89q.com/job/WorldGuard/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/worldguard-5.6-SNAPSHOT.zip
#349 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Don't see why it wouldn't
#350 [17:09] <AmberK> sk89q's had a history of mixmatched versions fluking with each other
#351 [17:09] <AmberK> but he keeps the dev builds matched usually
#352 [17:11] <qwerty> i think my plugins are old
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#355 [17:13] <Apoc31337> Can anyone help me set up a minecraft server? windows 7
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#358 [17:20] <ftyvdryhc> Hi, My Partner named my MC account when she brought it for me
#359 [17:20] <ftyvdryhc> any way to change my name?
#360 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> No.
#361 [17:20] <ftyvdryhc> that was simple, thanks :)
#362 [17:20] <superkabii> I hope it isn't 'ftyvdryhc'.
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#364 [17:21] <Wug> lol
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#366 [17:22] <qwerty> http://pastebin.com/A0JDdUnq
#367 [17:22] <qwerty> http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/jobs/files/19-v2-7-4/
#368 [17:22] <qwerty> i downloaded jobs plugin latest version
#369 [17:23] <qwerty> and i uploaded it
#370 [17:23] <qwerty> reload server
#371 [17:23] <AmberK> ...
#372 [17:23] <qwerty> but i still got an error
#373 [17:23] <AmberK> Jobs wasn't your issue
#374 [17:23] <AmberK> Alright
#375 [17:23] <AmberK> that one is from DynMAp
#376 [17:23] <AmberK> I'm assuming you don't know next to anything of setting up a webserver?
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#378 [17:24] <qwerty> yes :(
#379 [17:24] <qwerty> i'm a beginner
#380 [17:24] <AmberK> Then just delete dynmap.
#381 [17:26] <qwerty> ok i deleted
#382 [17:26] <qwerty> thanks for everyting, i'm sorry about my poor knowlodge
#383 [17:29] <qwerty> http://pastebin.com/9sCEmtkY
#384 [17:29] <qwerty> i have another error :(
#385 [17:31] <Omega_Guardian> I have huge error :P Minecraft won't even launch. Exe or .jar run directly.
#386 [17:31] <Wug> Omega_Guardian: get teamviewer
#387 [17:31] <Omega_Guardian> isn't that one of those remote pc viewing things?
#388 [17:31] <Wug> yep
#389 [17:31] <Wug> :tv
#390 [17:32] <WugBot> tv: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#391 [17:32] <WugBot> tv: Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#392 [17:32] <Omega_Guardian> I'd just look at the forums if the site wasn't seemingly down :P
#393 [17:33] <Wug> people on the forums ... dont usually know much about ..... java.
#394 [17:33] <Wug> [implying implications]
#395 [17:34] <Eddie> System.out.closet
#396 [17:35] <Boreeas> Eddie: groan
#397 [17:35] <Wug> Eddie: uhh. wut
#398 [17:35] <Eddie> Hello.
#399 [17:35] <Eddie> Pizza?
#400 [17:35] <AmberK> The people that do are usually moderating servers tbh
#401 [17:35] <Omega_Guardian> and who says Wug is trustworthy anyways :P
#402 [17:35] <AmberK> moderating servers section, that is
#403 [17:35] <Boreeas> I should kick you for a joke that bad
#404 [17:35] <Eddie> Go ahead.
#405 [17:36] <Wug> Omega_Guardian: I'm an op
#406 [17:36] <Omega_Guardian> okies
#407 [17:36] <Eddie> I thought I was voiced here o.o
#408 [17:36] <Wug> and I do this a lot
#409 [17:36] <Eddie> I guess they saw I was useless.
#410 [17:36] <Wug> Eddie: maybe it was aubot doing it
#411 [17:36] <Wug> I dont think any flags have been changed for a while
#412 [17:36] <Wug> I dont think any flags have been changed for a while
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#415 [17:37] <Eddie> Acknowledged.
#416 [17:37] <Omega_Guardian> did my internet get upgraded to instant download lol? I click to download teamviwer..and bam, it's done instantly
#417 [17:39] <KleptoKat> Chances are it was a small executable
#418 [17:40] <Omega_Guardian> hey wug did you get a message? I thought I sent one
#419 [17:41] <Wug> I did
#420 [17:51] <Eddie> I apologize for my bad joke.
#421 [17:51] <Eddie> Now I shall go.
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#424 [17:59] <Omega_Guardian> thanks a bunch Wug
#425 [18:00] <Wug> npo
#426 [18:00] <Wug> np*
#427 [18:01] <Morrolan> Oh, the joke could have been worse, Eddie. ;)
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#430 [18:11] <Eddie> OKAY
#431 [18:11] <Eddie> In any case, Scott is my protector.
#432 [18:12] <Boreeas> I'm above him in the list! Fear me!
#433 [18:12] <Morrolan> That is, ahem, good to know I guess.
#434 [18:13] * Scott protects his Eddie.
#434 [18:13] * Morrolan looks at #rsw again
#434 [18:13] * Morrolan looks back to #Minecrafthelp
#434 [18:14] * Morrolan nods
#434 [18:14] <Eddie> But Boreeas
#435 [18:14] <Eddie> You are not famous
#436 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> He has a +.
#437 [18:15] <Eddie> And you have a @
#438 [18:15] <Scott> GreyVulpine: op plz
#439 [18:15] <Eddie> NO
#440 [18:15] <Eddie> don't leave me behind
#441 [18:15] <Scott> I won't!
#442 [18:15] <GreyVulpine> On account of Eddie's objection, I won't
#443 [18:16] <Scott> FINE THEN.
#444 [18:16] * Scott throws things.
#444 [18:16] <Eddie> :(
#445 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> See? I listen to the people.
#446 [18:16] * Eddie takes Scott away
#446 [18:16] <Scott> lol
#447 [18:16] * GreyVulpine winks
#447 [18:16] <Morrolan> Would you mind taking these things he threw with you?
#448 [18:16] * Scott throws more at Morrolan.
#448 [18:17] <Boreeas> } catch (things t) {System.err.println(t);}
#449 [18:17] <Morrolan> twamp
#450 [18:17] <Eddie> system.errrrrrrrrrr.derp
#451 [18:17] <Boreeas> har
#452 [18:17] <Scott> GreyVulpine: voice my fiancé.
#453 [18:17] <Eddie> VoxelHead is ****Head
#454 [18:17] <Eddie> :(
#455 [18:17] * Morrolan hides behind Grim_Reaper again
#455 [18:17] <Eddie> I protest!
#456 [18:18] <Morrolan> Scott - You mean the rude dork over there who is yelling at poor Vox?
#457 [18:18] <Eddie> lol
#458 [18:18] <Boreeas> Scott <~scott@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:f1ba>
#459 [18:18] <Boreeas> Eddie <~eddie@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe93:f1ba>
#460 [18:18] <Boreeas> l
#461 [18:18] <Boreeas> k
#462 [18:18] * Boreeas smacks VoxelHead
#462 [18:18] <Eddie> Yes bouncer. I will brb
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#471 [19:11] <darkid> Question: I can't play minecraft in-browser, the java app seems to keep failing.
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#473 [19:12] <darkid> @Boreeas Are you there?
#474 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Failing how?
#475 [19:12] <darkid> ah
#476 [19:12] <darkid> uh
#477 [19:12] <darkid> it never gets past a blank, white box.
#478 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before?
#479 [19:12] <darkid> It does, albeit, ask if I want to run a java app from this provider.
#480 [19:12] <darkid> I've never tried before.
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#482 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> Are you trying to use the free classic client, or the premium one?
#483 [19:13] <darkid> Premium, although I have a premium account.
#484 [19:13] <darkid> The "in browser" of "In Browser|Download"
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#488 [19:13] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Well, first off, is Java installed properly on your computer?
#489 [19:13] <darkid> Yes.
#490 [19:13] <darkid> I've checked.
#491 [19:14] <Morrolan> Gosh, what's the use of a bouncer+shell account if it just drops connection a few times a day. <.<
#492 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> You've used sites like: http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#493 [19:14] <darkid> Yes.
#494 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> or http://javatester.org/
#495 [19:14] <darkid> I go with the oracle one.
#496 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Does the downloadable client work?
#497 [19:14] <darkid> I'm on a mac, and am now running software update to do a further check.
#498 [19:14] <darkid> Yes.
#499 [19:14] <GreyVulpine> Did you install any mods?
#500 [19:15] <darkid> I've installed TMI in the past, but did a clean re-install (removed /application support/minecraft along with the app.)
#501 [19:15] <darkid> I see a java update available, I'm gonna re-install then check again.
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#503 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Many times, a white screen in the inbrowser version, that works with the downloadable version, is the result of a mod.
#504 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Modded minecraft will not work inbrowser.
#505 [19:16] <darkid> Odd, since the browser shouldn't be affected by any downloaded data.
#506 [19:17] <darkid> Again, I'm updating java per software update.
#507 [19:17] <GreyVulpine> The one inbrowser launches slightly differently.
#508 [19:17] <darkid> so I'll restart and retry.
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#521 [19:38] <darkid> Hi
#522 [19:39] <darkid> I'm unable to play minecrfat through a web client
#523 [19:39] <darkid> Help?
#524 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> Nuke ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft -- Make sure minecraft isn't loaded or running at the time. Back up your saves before doing so.
#525 [19:41] <darkid> Not running.
#526 [19:41] <darkid> Can I copy the folder to ~/desktop
#527 [19:41] <darkid> or should I delete it entirely?
#528 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> You can move it if you wish
#529 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> Just make sure the files are not in ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#530 [19:42] <darkid> Are not anymore.
#531 [19:42] <darkid> Refreshed page.
#532 [19:42] <darkid> Loaded, updating.
#533 [19:43] <darkid> Update finished
#534 [19:43] <darkid> waiting at a white screen.
#535 [19:44] <GreyVulpine> Huh, strange. Can you pull up a java console in your browser?
#536 [19:44] <darkid> ?
#537 [19:44] <darkid> uh
#538 [19:44] <darkid> don'tk now how to in chrome.
#539 [19:45] <darkid> I can pull up an external console.
#540 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Can you perhaps try a different browser?
#541 [19:45] <darkid> I'll try firefox.
#542 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> If you find jre6/bin/javacpl.exe you can turn on the console from there
#543 [19:45] <darkid> Mac.
#544 [19:46] * DiskDaemon shuts up then :)
#544 [19:46] <darkid> >.>
#545 [19:46] <darkid> loaded webpage in firefox
#546 [19:46] <darkid> no visible indication of load.
#547 [19:47] <darkid> Should I refresh the page?
#548 [19:48] <darkid> Refreshed.
#549 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> How to get the mac java console -> http://thedesignspace.net/MT2archives/000201.html#.T5c7oqUnySo
#550 [19:48] <darkid> ok
#551 [19:48] <darkid> Safari, there.
#552 [19:48] <darkid> I'll switch to that browser.
#553 [19:50] <darkid> white box loaded
#554 [19:50] <GreyVulpine> Would be nice to see some java console output
#555 [19:50] <darkid> The requested file does not exist.
#556 [19:51] <darkid> "/Applications/Utilities/Java"
#557 [19:51] <darkid> Javapreferences.app does exist at that location, booted.
#558 [19:51] <darkid> showing console now
#559 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> There's no Java Preferences.app at /Applications/Utilities/ ?
#560 [19:52] <darkid> where will the console appear?
#561 [19:52] <darkid> ther eis
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#563 [19:52] <darkid> there is not "/java/javapreferences"
#564 [19:52] <darkid> running, refreshed, can see a console
#565 [19:53] <darkid> Done. 27 achievements 182 recipes Setting user: darkid, -4365608143953676759 LWJGL Version: 2.4.2 Loading: net.java.games.input.OSXEnvironmentPlugin Starting up SoundSystem... Initializing LWJGL OpenAL (The LWJGL binding of OpenAL. For more information, see http://www.lwjgl.org) OpenAL initialized.
#566 [19:53] * GreyVulpine blinks and hmms.
#566 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Nothing there that's telling us what's wrong..
#567 [19:55] <darkid> Figures :(
#568 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Do you happen to have any sort of security software installed on that mac which may be blocking java?
#569 [19:56] <darkid> I very much so doubt it.
#570 [19:56] <darkid> Especially considering that the local client runs.
#571 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Try clearing the java temp file cache?
#572 [19:57] <darkid> How?
#573 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> It'll be in the java preferences.app
#574 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Under general -> Temporary Internet files
#575 [19:58] <darkid> Only temporary is under network
#576 [19:58] <darkid> Delete files
#577 [19:58] <darkid> delete the following temporary files
#578 [20:00] <darkid> Applications and Applets
#579 [20:00] <darkid> Trace and Log Files
#580 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Just all of them
#581 [20:00] <Wug> might as well just delete all of them
#582 [20:00] <darkid> ok
#583 [20:01] <Wug> GreyNinja
#584 [20:01] * GreyVulpine ninja-vanishes
#584 [20:01] <darkid> hit the button.
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#586 [20:02] <darkid> No noticible differense.
#587 [20:02] <darkid> difference.
#588 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Huh, what the bloody blazes..
#589 [20:03] <darkid> Should we discuss an unrelated issue which occurs when I try to connect to a multiplayer server via a local client?
#590 [20:04] <GreyVulpine> Sure
#591 [20:05] <darkid> It says Bad Login
#592 [20:05] <darkid> And fails.
#593 [20:05] <GreyVulpine> On any Minecraft server?
#594 [20:05] <darkid> any.
#595 [20:06] <zkxs> Can you log into minecraft.net with the same credentials?
#596 [20:06] <darkid> yes.
#597 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> Are you using the official client from minecraft.net/download?
#598 [20:06] <darkid> Yes.
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#600 [20:07] <zkxs> What does this page give you? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=minecrafthelp&password=ftw&version=9001
#601 [20:08] <darkid> Bad Login.
#602 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> Bad Login is usually indicative of a login token that is invalid or expired. This can be caused by logging into minecraft from multiple locations at once, a client that is unable to communicate with the login server, or some sort of wonky internet connection
#603 [20:08] <darkid> I'm in favor of a wonky internet connection.
#604 [20:08] <darkid> Albeit, I've no idea.
#605 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Could you try connecting to s.nerd.nu ? It's reddit's SMP server
#606 [20:10] <darkid> gimme a sec
#607 [20:11] <darkid> Failed to login: Bad login
#608 [20:12] <GreyVulpine> Are you having any problems logging in with the client at all?
#609 [20:12] <darkid> No.
#610 [20:13] <darkid> minecraft is now partially overloading my GPU, slowing the machine severly.
#611 [20:13] <darkid> severely.
#612 [20:13] <darkid> I'm going to quit it for now.
#613 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> You haven't shared this account with anybody else, or...
#614 [20:13] <darkid> I have not.
#615 [20:13] <darkid> Albeit, it was not the most secure of passwords.
#616 [20:14] <zkxs> tell me it wasn't password
#617 [20:14] <darkid> no.
#618 [20:14] <darkid> but it was a dictionary word.
#619 [20:15] <darkid> so it's reasonably low encryption strenght.
#620 [20:15] <darkid> strength.
#621 [20:15] <darkid> also 6 letters.
#622 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> I see "Bad login" issues with accounts being shared, since the login token is refreshed with each login. Bad login can also be caused by a hacked account.
#623 [20:15] <darkid> sigh.
#624 [20:16] <zkxs> meh, most minecraft account crackers only guess the top 9 passwords or so
#625 [20:16] <zkxs> unless your account is famous :P
#626 [20:16] <darkid> D:
#627 [20:16] <darkid> I fuggin wish.
#628 [20:16] <zkxs> you can always change the password
#629 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> it might have been "dragon
#630 [20:17] <darkid> Nope.
#631 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> or "monkey" or "master" or "shadow" - those are all six letter dictionary words in the top 25 most common passwords
#632 [20:17] <darkid> Nope.
#633 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> Whatever it was though, you might want to pick a more difficlt password for next time
#634 [20:17] <darkid> Besides, I've changed it now.
#635 [20:17] <zkxs> lol, i have the same list up
#636 [20:18] <darkid> >.>
#637 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> With your first issue, the white screen thing on the mac browser... I'm pretty certain it's due to a security setting of something on your Mac that's blocking minecraft/java from running it correctly
#638 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> http://mashable.com/2011/11/17/worst-internet-passwords/
#639 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> As to what, I can't really clarify. I don't use a mac myself
#640 [20:18] <darkid> @Grey interesting, damnit.
#641 [20:19] <zkxs> My applet doesn't work either, but I know for sure it is a security setting
#642 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> I see it from time to time, but I have never found a solution for it
#643 [20:19] <darkid> Damnit.
#644 [20:19] <darkid> fine.
#645 [20:19] <zkxs> globally allowing everything fixed it for me. But is unsafe so don't do it
#646 [20:19] <darkid> I'll just deal with my broken client.
#647 [20:19] <Wug> DiskDaemon: lol
#648 [20:20] <darkid> which DOESN'T WORK D:
#649 [20:20] <Wug> I know individuals who have used more than one of those
#650 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> As for your Bad Login issue... I can't narrow it down further than, it's a network login token issue. Try restarting, logging in fresh with only one client.
#651 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Make sure nobody else is using your account, change your password.
#652 [20:20] <Wug> GreyVulpine: hosts?
#653 [20:21] <darkid> Changed the password.
#654 [20:21] <darkid> I'll re-client
#655 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> Resolves to login.minecraft.net fine
#656 [20:21] <darkid> if necessary.
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#658 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> At least, gives the "Bad login" of the login page
#659 [20:21] <darkid> what are you querying to login.minecraft.net?
#660 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> You did, when you connected to:
#661 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> <+zkxs> What does this page give you? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=minecrafthelp&password=ftw&version=9001
#662 [20:22] <darkid> Bad login
#663 [20:22] <darkid> yep.
#664 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Yes, you told us that.
#665 [20:22] <darkid> well it hasn't changed D:
#666 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> In the client, when you log in, are you certain you're not using offline mode? It logs in with no error message at all?
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#668 [20:25] <darkid> It logs in with no error.
#669 [20:25] <darkid> smooth as silk
#670 [20:25] <darkid> a month or two ago, so long as I connected quickly to a server, I could join it.
#671 [20:27] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Hello everyone! Sorry to be the [more than likely] millionth person to ask this, but, I need some help with setting up a server.
#672 [20:28] <darkid> Mac or PC?
#673 [20:29] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> PC
#674 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> darkid - Are you sure you're not using some sort of security software, or firewall, or some network filtering solution on your Mac?
#675 [20:30] <darkid> @Grey I've a network monitoring program, but java has full acess through it.
#676 [20:30] <darkid> @Myrtle I believe there's a default server .exe file (I saw reference to in via help on the minecraft.net site), but failing that reference the wiki.
#677 [20:31] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> This is the problem I'm having: I've forwarded the port (25565), and according to yougetsignal, it is in fact forwarded.
#678 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Myrtle_T_Turtle - Is the server running?
#679 [20:32] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> However, only I can join the server.
#680 [20:32] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Yes, the server is running.
#681 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> ;check Myrtle_T_Turtle
#682 [20:32] <WugBot> 65-23-185-13-host.drtel.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Myrtle_T_Turtle Server (0/8)
#683 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Looks to be fine from here
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#685 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're giving people your public IP address of 65.23.185.13
#686 [20:32] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> That's what's strange - my friend isn't able to join.
#687 [20:33] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Yep, that's exactly what I gave them.
#688 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Does your server log any connections incoming from him?
#689 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Make sure he's putting in exactly that uip?
#690 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, ip*
#691 [20:33] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> I sent him a picture of how I put it in, and he said his was identical.
#692 [20:34] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Nope, I don't see any login attempts by him in the log.
#693 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, our bot can see and query your server fine..
#694 [20:35] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> lol Yeah, I can't figure it out :-P
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#696 [20:35] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> I've went to online server status checkers and they all say it's running.
#697 [20:36] <GreyVulpine> Gotta be something he's putting in wrong.
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#699 [20:37] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> I'll shoot him a text and make sure.
#700 [20:38] <langkid1> Myrtle_T_Turtle, get him in IRC
#701 [20:39] <DiskDaemon> Myrtle_T_Turtle: I've just tried to connect to your server, and get told that I'm not in the white list.
#702 [20:39] <DiskDaemon> I've also changed my password now too, as a security precaution :)
#703 [20:39] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> DiskDaemon - I'll whitelist you.
#704 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> We ask that, for security reasons, you don't connect to random servers.
#705 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> There's a well known man-in-the-middle exploit going around right now
#706 [20:40] <DiskDaemon> That's a good policy, which is why the whole password changing thing occurs afterwards, to something random like M5dyjoV9
#707 [20:41] <Wug> DiskDaemon: password changing does not affect vulnerability
#708 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Changing your password does nothing to block the MITM
#709 [20:41] <Wug> GreyVulpine: NOT FOR LONG
#710 [20:41] * GreyVulpine pffts
#710 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> I'll believe it when I see it
#711 [20:41] <Wug> grum says there will be a snapshot with a patch on thursday
#712 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> Oh that's nice to know
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#714 [20:41] <ShaRose> no he didn't Wug
#715 [20:42] <ShaRose> I said the earlier there would be a patch was thursday
#716 [20:42] <ShaRose> snapshots are always released on thursday
#717 [20:42] <Wug> ShaRose: oh, that was you wasnt it
#718 [20:42] <ShaRose> >:(
#719 [20:42] <Stygander> does anyone in here know if the id resolver mod affects preinstalled mod ids
#720 [20:42] <Wug> hurp
#721 [20:42] <Wug> my brain only responded to the ping
#722 [20:42] <ShaRose> Wug heh, you have him stalked too?
#723 [20:43] <Wug> scratch that, its thursday at the earliest
#724 [20:43] <Wug> ShaRose: no, but you pinged me and I didnt read the name of the pinger
#725 [20:43] <ShaRose> oh
#726 [20:43] <Wug> cuz herp
#727 [20:43] <ShaRose> :(
#728 [20:43] <Wug> but yeah
#729 [20:43] <ShaRose> oh and Stygander yes it does
#730 [20:43] <Wug> GreyVulpine: hey hey HEY
#731 [20:43] <Wug> wanna test something
#732 [20:43] <ShaRose> I can't remember if it's default or not (I think it is) but it should only show the change ID thing if there's an actual conflict
#733 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Uh-oh
#734 [20:44] <Stygander> ShaRose: im trying to add in flans mod packs, and its being a pain
#735 [20:44] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> GreyVulpine - My friend said that he put the IP in exactly the way it should be.
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#737 [20:46] <Jungalist81> Hello, I am looking for anyone who has setup their server with PrivateWarp plugin. Theres lack of instructions on how to setup X amount of warps per specific groups.
#738 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> Jungalist81 - You may be better off asking in #bukkit
#739 [20:47] <GreyVulpine> Myrtle_T_Turtle - Is your friend able to connect to other servers fine?
#740 [20:47] <Jungalist81> k
#741 [20:47] <Jungalist81> k
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#743 [20:50] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> GreyVulpine - Not sure, he just bought the game, so this is the first server he's trying to join. I'll have him try to join other servers.
#744 [20:51] * GreyVulpine pokes Wug
#744 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Wug - I'm getting Connection refused with you
#745 [20:51] <Stygander> nhh guess ill just wait and see what i can do later on
#746 [20:52] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I just stopped it h/o
#747 [20:52] <Wug> try now
#748 [20:54] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> GreyVulpine - I'm not able to contact him right now. Presuming that he's not able to connect to other servers, what should I have him try to do?
#749 [20:55] <GreyVulpine> Then there's something on his end that's preventing him from connecting to servers. Have him check his security/firewall software
#750 [20:56] <GreyVulpine> We can see your server fine, if he can't connect to any servers at all, there's something on his end that's preventing him from doing so.
#751 [20:57] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> GreyVulpine - So, should I have him try to give Minecraft.exe full access in his firewall settings?
#752 [20:57] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft, and perhaps java as well.
#753 [20:57] <Wug> for testing purposes
#754 [20:57] <Wug> you could just ask him to home here sometime
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#756 [21:00] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Alright, I'll try to persuade him to get on the IRC (he's never used IRC, and I'd hate to confuse him with this :-P ).
#757 [21:01] <Guest42967> Hey, ive played minecraft for a while with minimal problems, but i just now upgraded from vista to windows 7 (Success <3) and redownloaded it, but all of my worlds are gone D: i have a legitimate minecraft account, and i thought i would be able to keep my worlds?
#758 [21:02] <Wug> Guest42967: do you have a backup of your old files
#759 [21:02] <Guest42967> i did, but everything was reset, im guessing there gone right?
#760 [21:02] <Wug> probably :/
#761 [21:03] <Guest42967> Well, that is unfortunate.
#762 [21:03] <Guest42967> they dont save with your account?
#763 [21:03] <Wug> if you had a backup of your profile before the install you could get them from that
#764 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> Your worlds will be in the %appdata%/.minecraft/saves/ folder of your old system
#765 [21:03] <Wug> no, they are saved on the computer account
#766 [21:03] <GreyVulpine> Worlds are saved locally on the machine where they're created
#767 [21:04] <Guest42967> Hmmmm
#768 [21:04] <Guest42967> they should fix that....somehow
#769 [21:04] <Guest42967> Anyway, thanks for the help!
#770 [21:04] <zkxs> There'd probably be a surcharge for networks storage
#771 [21:05] <zkxs> And it'd be slower
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#780 [21:56] <Lumen> I have a question guys, Why is it that everytime I try to install a mod after I install mixcraft hd my game screws up
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#782 [21:56] <oldtopmanserver> !check topcraftia.no-ip.org
#783 [21:56] <oldtopmanserver> !check
#784 [21:57] <oldtopmanserver> ...
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#786 [21:59] <Guest74540> Anyone here?
#787 [21:59] <sugoi> Guest74540: nope
#788 [22:00] <Guest74540> Know anything about Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out errors?
#789 [22:00] <Guest74540> Specifically, when it gets stuck on "downloading terrain" and then crashes.
#790 [22:00] <sugoi> Guest74540: has it worked before?
#791 [22:02] <Guest74540> I have made servers before plenty of times.
#792 [22:02] <Guest74540> Not in a while.
#793 [22:02] <Guest74540> But it has worked in the past.
#794 [22:02] <sugoi> what version of java, though it is somewhat debated here, java6 may be a better option for you than java7
#795 [22:03] <sugoi> also, try a fresh install of the game
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#797 [22:03] <SolarisGuy> hello... is this thing on?
#798 [22:03] <Guest74540> I am not sure which version of Java I have. I have already tried a fresh install.
#799 [22:03] <SolarisGuy> wow... finally!
#800 [22:03] <sugoi> Guest74540: what os?
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#802 [22:04] <SolarisGuy> Hello. I have a question about running minecraft server on Solaris, any takers ;-)
#803 [22:04] <Guest74540> Windows 7 64 bit
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#806 [22:05] <needhelp> hi
#807 [22:05] <needhelp> how do I get in contact with mojang?
#808 [22:05] <sugoi> Guest74540: go to your control panel, and open the link caled "Java"
#809 [22:06] <SolarisGuy> call his cell of course...
#810 [22:06] <SolarisGuy> ;-)
#811 [22:06] <Guest74540> Java 7.
#812 [22:06] <sugoi> needhelp: Guest74540 is that the only one in the list?
#813 [22:06] <Guest74540> But I have not had a problem with Java 7 before. :S
#814 [22:06] <sugoi> needhelp: there is a support email
#815 [22:06] <Guest74540> Only one in the list.
#816 [22:07] <sugoi> Guest74540: can you play locally?
#817 [22:07] <needhelp> what is the support account?
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#819 [22:07] <sugoi> needhelp: but, before i find it - what is your question?
#820 [22:07] <Guest74540> I cannot connect via localhost.
#821 [22:07] <sugoi> we might be able to help
#822 [22:07] <sugoi> Guest74540: but a single player game works?
#823 [22:07] <Guest74540> I just put the server as offline mode and still nothing.
#824 [22:07] <Guest74540> Single player works fine.
#825 [22:08] <sugoi> always stuck at downloading terrain then time out
#826 [22:08] <needhelp> I want to know if I can transfer premium status to another account
#827 [22:08] <Guest74540> Each and every time.
#828 [22:08] <Guest74540> The server also crashes when it happens
#829 [22:08] <sugoi> needhelp: interesting question, GreyVulpine ?
#830 [22:08] <sugoi> GreyVulpine: can premium status be tx to another account?
#831 [22:08] <sugoi> needhelp: i'm betting you cannot
#832 [22:09] <sugoi> but, you can always email them
#833 [22:09] <needhelp> ok
#834 [22:09] <SolarisGuy> so any takers on getting minecraft server working on a Sun Server?
#835 [22:10] <sugoi> needhelp: so you can use help@mojang.com, but i bet the response will take a while
#836 [22:11] <sugoi> Guest74540: the server crashes? nice
#837 [22:11] <sugoi> what mods?
#838 [22:11] <sugoi> SolarisGuy: all it should take is java, what have you tried? what failed?
#839 [22:11] <needhelp> thank you
#840 [22:11] <Guest74540> Singeplayer I have IC2, RP2, Forestry, RailCraft and BuildCraft.
#841 [22:11] <Guest74540> Multiplayer, I have only installed Forge.
#842 [22:12] <SolarisGuy> of all things... java errors... it appears that Solaris interprets the version differently than any other OS....
#843 [22:12] <sugoi> Guest74540: ALWAYS when you have failures, you should try vanilla client and server first
#844 [22:12] <sugoi> then work from there
#845 [22:12] <Guest74540> Already have.
#846 [22:12] <Guest74540> Same problem.
#847 [22:12] <sugoi> then you could have said, no mods :)
#848 [22:12] <Guest74540> I tried installing Forge again for the Hell of it.
#849 [22:12] <sugoi> what versions of client/server are you using for this failure?
#850 [22:12] <Guest74540> Latest of each.
#851 [22:12] <sugoi> Guest74540: you also tried with a vanilla client?
#852 [22:13] <Guest74540> Yes.
#853 [22:13] <sugoi> then why list mods...
#854 [22:13] <sugoi> whatever
#855 [22:13] <Guest74540> Because I have tried both.
#856 [22:13] <sugoi> mods will only make it _less_ stable
#857 [22:13] <sugoi> or the same at best
#858 [22:13] * sugoi considers someone could make a mod to improve connectivity, not heard of one tho
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#859 [22:14] <sugoi> SolarisGuy: interprets what version? java's?
#860 [22:14] <needhelp> can you give me the email one more time?
#861 [22:14] <sugoi> needhelp: help@mojang.com
#862 [22:14] <needhelp> sorry and thanks
#863 [22:14] <sugoi> Guest74540: i still recommend java 6
#864 [22:14] <SolarisGuy> specifically i get this. Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: net/minecraft/server/MinecraftServer (Unsupported major.mir version 49.0)
#865 [22:14] <sugoi> it is painless to switch between the two, really
#866 [22:14] <sugoi> just uninstall one, then install 6
#867 [22:15] <Guest74540> Yeah I know. It is just that I have not had a problem with Java 7 before. I have had it for a while. Ran servers with it no problems.
#868 [22:15] <Guest74540> But I will give it a go.
#869 [22:15] <SolarisGuy> when i type java - version.. i get this
#870 [22:15] <SolarisGuy> Solaris VM (build Solaris_JDK_1.2.2_17b, native threads, sunwjit)
#871 [22:16] <sugoi> SolarisGuy: jdk 1.2.2??!?!?
#872 [22:16] <SolarisGuy> but its not... its actually 6.0_24
#873 [22:16] <sugoi> SolarisGuy: i bet you're wrong
#874 [22:16] <sugoi> :)
#875 [22:17] <sugoi> you might have two versions installed
#876 [22:17] <sugoi> try running java with an absolute path
#877 [22:17] <SolarisGuy> well... that is what i installed :-)
#878 [22:17] <sugoi> instaed of >java minecraft.jar
#879 [22:17] <sugoi> run >/full/path/to/the/java/that/i/think/i/installed/java minecraft.jar
#880 [22:17] <SolarisGuy> searching for all instances of java now.. .may take a lil while ;-)
#881 [22:18] <SolarisGuy> 1.6.0_24
#882 [22:20] <SolarisGuy> i think i found my own problem... wrong boot disk is running.... solaris 8 vs 10 ;-)
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#892 [22:43] <CaelThunderwing> has anyone had much luck fixing bad chunk Corruption on an Anvil Map (1.2.X) my server aftre a hard reset on the host side. starte dto Lag then we started seeing "Teleported" Chunks" i cant start a new map theres 4 months of work on it.
#893 [22:46] <sugoi> CaelThunderwing: i've been able to resolve some map issue by opening a map w/ world edit, saving it, and relaunching it
#894 [22:46] <sugoi> besides that, i don't have a solution for you
#895 [22:47] <CaelThunderwing> pastebin.com/PWap7iCn
#896 [22:48] <sugoi> CaelThunderwing: note that your stack includes bukkit
#897 [22:48] <sugoi> what does vanilla server do with the map?
#898 [22:48] <CaelThunderwing> im downloading Vanilla atm now.
#899 [22:50] <CaelThunderwing> no errors on load.
#900 [22:50] <CaelThunderwing> going in to see if oddly the teleport chunks are where they Should be
#901 [22:51] <CaelThunderwing> nope still teleported chunks
#902 [22:52] <sugoi> sadly, i would guess those chunks are now saved like that
#903 [22:52] <sugoi> you could world edit -> move them
#904 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> Is there a backup from before the problems occurred, from which you could copy the affected chunks?
#905 [22:53] <CaelThunderwing> yes but its a month Old
#906 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> Is one month old better than nothing?
#907 [22:53] <CaelThunderwing> i'd try to use MCEdit but it crashes @ 25% loading it
#908 [22:53] <CaelThunderwing> one month would set back 40% of the World's Changes
#909 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> Or rather, is it better to copy over those damaged chunks from the one month old backup, than to leave things in the currenrly damaged state that they are in?
#910 [22:54] <sugoi> ah, i kept saying world edit
#911 [22:54] <sugoi> sorry
#912 [22:54] <sugoi> i meant mcedit
#913 [22:54] <Eddie> VoxelHead the dictator
#914 [22:54] <Wug> CaelThunderwing: how big is the map
#915 [22:54] <Wug> sizewise
#916 [22:55] <CaelThunderwing> its about 509MB in File Size,
#917 [22:55] <sugoi> Eddie: heh, i didn't even notice that (i filter those mode updates to another 'window')
#918 [22:56] <CaelThunderwing> and the Problem is its affected the Main Spawn City,
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#920 [22:57] <Wug> map management plugins all suck
#921 [22:57] <Wug> lemme yell at #bukkit and see if they have something for you
#922 [22:57] <AmberK> What's this?
#923 [22:58] <AmberK> Oh, if you have chunk corruption on an anvil map
#924 [22:58] <AmberK> hit up Tux2 on bukkitdev
#925 [22:58] <CaelThunderwing> Yes
#926 [22:58] <AmberK> he's looking for corrupted anvil maps for a new Chunkster-like program
#927 [22:58] <AmberK> And he might be able to help you out there
#928 [22:59] <CaelThunderwing> pooo Tux2 isnt online.
#929 [22:59] <AmberK> Leave him a message :P
#930 [22:59] <Wug> /ms send tux2 message
#931 [23:01] <AmberK|Zzzz> I meant on bukkitdev >~>
#932 [23:04] <Wug> memoserv is just as good
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#934 [23:04] <CaelThunderwing> he's not registered
#935 [23:04] <Wug> .-. why not
#936 [23:05] <CaelThunderwing> "Tux2 is not Registered"
#937 [23:05] <Wug> might have to actually go there and wait for him then
#938 [23:05] <Jungalist81> Does anyone know how to setup Privatewarp? Id like to setup warp numbers for different groups. I checked #bukkit but got no answer. I asked this question earlier today
#939 [23:06] <CaelThunderwing> and yea Wug #bukkit's been kinda Ignoring the matter entirely yesterday and today
#940 [23:06] <Wug> I'll ask grum about it later
#941 [23:07] <Wug> the issue with mislocated chunks is not a new one
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#944 [23:07] <Wug> and its one ive submitted the same fix for twice
#945 [23:07] <Wug> and its been applied twice
#946 [23:07] <CaelThunderwing> it came up after the server had a hard reset
#947 [23:07] <Wug> (and apparently dropped twice)
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#949 [23:09] <CaelThunderwing> im uploading the server copy to Media Fire (Using rinrar that cut down on File Size dramaticly from 509MB to 167MB!) for tux (via the Forums)
#950 [23:10] <Wug> I should speak to him as well
#951 [23:10] <Wug> I should speak to him as well
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#953 [23:10] <Wug> we see a lot of failure modes here
#954 [23:15] <CaelThunderwing> trying to get MCEdit to crash like it did before showing which .mca was causing it to
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#956 [23:18] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Hello everyone! I'm having some issues getting my friend (TERESA) to join my Minecraft Server.
#957 [23:18] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> I've forwarded the necessary port (25565), and YouGetSignal confirms this.
#958 [23:19] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> However, he cannot connect to my server.
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#960 [23:20] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Any suggestions?
#961 [23:20] <puffrfish> is your friend at a school/college?
#962 [23:22] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> The problem he's having is that when he tries to access my server (he types it in exactly as it should be), he cannot connect.
#963 [23:22] <puffrfish> is your friend at a school or college?
#964 [23:23] <TERESA> YES
#965 [23:23] <puffrfish> your school might be blocking connections on port 25565
#966 [23:23] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Sorry, he's on his home computer.
#967 [23:24] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Might it be his firewall settings?
#968 [23:24] <puffrfish> firewalls can sometimes block the connection as well
#969 [23:24] <puffrfish> but its less likely
#970 [23:25] <puffrfish> sometimes parental control programs can do it, as well
#971 [23:26] <zkxs> parental control virus
#972 [23:26] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> What should he do to make sure that his firewall/parental control settings aren't interferring with connecting to my server?
#973 [23:27] <CaelThunderwing> try binding your server on a Diffrent port
#974 [23:27] <TERESA> Ik there is no parental control.
#975 [23:27] <zkxs> could be a school firewall
#976 [23:27] <zkxs> MC doesn't work properly at my school
#977 [23:27] <CaelThunderwing> nope.
#978 [23:28] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> He's not at school - he's on his home computer.
#979 [23:28] <CaelThunderwing> Myrtle_T_Turtle stated that TERESA is accessing from thier home pc
#980 [23:29] <zkxs> oh, well then
#981 [23:29] <zkxs> can he access other servers?
#982 [23:29] <zkxs> s.nerd.nu, for example?
#983 [23:29] <zkxs> s.nerd.nu, for example?
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#985 [23:31] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Yep, he can connect to the Opticraft server just fine.
#986 [23:32] <CaelThunderwing> have him do a tracert on your IP
#987 [23:32] <CaelThunderwing> down the line he maybe hitting a deadend
#988 [23:33] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> How should he do that?
#989 [23:33] <CaelThunderwing> start -type CMD-"tracert (yourIP)
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#991 [23:34] <CaelThunderwing> or Windows Key+R then type cmd
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#994 [23:38] <zkxs> a lot of firewalls drop pings
#995 [23:39] <zkxs> and a such, traceroutes don't complete
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#997 [23:40] <zkxs> much to my unhappiness. It makes it hard to figure out whose fault lag is on my server when all my users drop pings
#998 [23:41] <sugoi> zkxs: is there a bukkit tool to measure client response times?
#999 [23:41] <sugoi> because, in code - that's pretty dang easy
#1000 [23:41] <zkxs> hmm, i'm not sure
#1001 [23:41] <zkxs> probably
#1002 [23:41] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Almost all of his results says he timed out.
#1003 [23:42] <CaelThunderwing> something on his end is likely blocking it.
#1004 [23:42] <zkxs> proxy time
#1005 [23:42] <zkxs> when my school blocks MC i ssh tunnel through my home PC
#1006 [23:42] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> So, what should he do?
#1007 [23:43] <CaelThunderwing> well did you Lock to an IP and port in your server.properties? if you have Blank that out.
#1008 [23:43] <CaelThunderwing> i find it easier if it dont bind a server to an Spefic IP/Port
#1009 [23:43] <zkxs> i get to the server
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#1011 [23:44] <zkxs> tells me i'm not whitelisted, which means its working
#1012 [23:44] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> "server-ip" is blank, and "server-port" is 25565.
#1013 [23:44] <CaelThunderwing> here Myrtle_T_Turtle whats your IP
#1014 [23:45] <zkxs> just /whois him
#1015 [23:45] <zkxs> that way it won't end up in the logs
#1016 [23:45] <zkxs> ^that is dumb
#1017 [23:45] <zkxs> it is already in the logs from when he joined
#1018 [23:46] <zkxs> 65.23.185.13
#1019 [23:46] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Yep.
#1020 [23:46] <CaelThunderwing> functioning on your end i get You ar enot Whitelisted
#1021 [23:46] <CaelThunderwing> so it's TERESA's End
#1022 [23:46] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Yep, I've got whitelist enabled.
#1023 [23:47] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> So, what can TERESA try to do to fix this?
#1024 [23:48] <CaelThunderwing> first try a direct Connection to the Cable Modem/DSL modem
#1025 [23:48] <CaelThunderwing> if it works there its a router Issue
#1026 [23:49] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> So, what should he do exactly (he's not exactly the most techy person)?
#1027 [23:50] <puffrfish> I hate to suggest this, but you could always use hamachi...
#1028 [23:51] * zkxs dies a little
#1028 [23:51] <CaelThunderwing> i cant make it any easier than TERESA Disconnect your Cable going from the Modem to router and connect it to the PC, then try connecting
#1029 [23:51] <CaelThunderwing> if thats still too techincal then....
#1030 [23:53] <zkxs> and you're giving him the right IP?
#1031 [23:53] <zkxs> a pretty common problem is people tell their friends to connect to 192.168.0.100
#1032 [23:53] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Nope - I gave him my exact IP.
#1033 [23:54] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> We'll, I have to go, so I'll have to work on this some other time.
#1034 [23:54] * CaelThunderwing Sighs
#1034 [23:54] <Myrtle_T_Turtle> Thanks for the help! :D
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#1036 [23:56] <zkxs> my traceroute to teresa is showing a pretty high loss rate for a couple of hosts
#1037 [23:57] <zkxs> den1-edge-01-lag2.360.net is by far the worst, and the reverse dns seems to agree
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#1039 [23:58] <CaelThunderwing> i'll laugh if its a 56k ISP
#1040 [23:58] <CaelThunderwing> as amazingly dialup ISP's still exist in this day and age
#1041 [23:59] <zkxs> Dickey Rural Networks is the ISP
#1042 [23:59] <zkxs> seems legit :P