#1 [00:00] <zkxs> ooh, they have live chat support
#2 [00:00] <zkxs> oh, TERESA has quit already... there goes that idea
#3 [00:01] <CaelThunderwing> hmm
#4 [00:01] <CaelThunderwing> they're from teh Same ISP
#5 [00:01] <zkxs> guess they are actually physical acquaintances
#6 [00:02] <CaelThunderwing> that rules out ISP Maintince
#7 [00:02] <CaelThunderwing> all i can say Shitty ass Router on Teresa's en or they had been trollin
#8 [00:02] <zkxs> but why could he connect to the opticraft server?
#9 [00:03] <zkxs> this one host in my traceroute has 75% loss
#10 [00:04] <zkxs> meh, with a name like dickey it is probably a wireless bridge
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#12 [00:05] <fishy1954> hey quick question
#13 [00:05] <fishy1954> i can play mc through website but not through client
#14 [00:05] <fishy1954> when i try to login through client says "cant connect to minecraft.net"
#15 [00:06] <fishy1954> any way to fix?
#16 [00:06] <CaelThunderwing> your only playing a single player vers of "Classic" via website
#17 [00:06] <fishy1954> i am a premium member
#18 [00:06] <CaelThunderwing> whats your IGN?
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#20 [00:07] <fishy1954> fishy1954
#21 [00:08] <CaelThunderwing> legit, hmm.
#22 [00:08] <fishy1954> ive tryed updating java, and uninstalling/ reinstalling mc
#23 [00:08] <fishy1954> along with setting comp clock back a day
#24 [00:08] <fishy1954> nothings worked so far
#25 [00:08] <CaelThunderwing> not sure i use dto have it but forgot how i fixed it
#26 [00:09] <fishy1954> dto?
#27 [00:09] <CaelThunderwing> *used to
#28 [00:10] <puffrfish> fishy1954: have you deleted the .minecraft folder, or just minecraft.exe?
#29 [00:10] <puffrfish> (assuming you are on a PC)
#30 [00:10] <fishy1954> tryed both
#31 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> fishy1954 - Are you trying MC on the computer you're at right now?
#32 [00:12] <fishy1954> yea
#33 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Any security software blocking java from connecting?
#34 [00:14] <fishy1954> nope
#35 [00:14] <fishy1954> and i gtg, if someone find a solution please email me
#36 [00:14] <fishy1954> tobinjames1@gmail.com
#37 [00:14] <CaelThunderwing> wait
#38 [00:14] <fishy1954> thanks
#39 [00:15] <fishy1954> ?
#40 [00:15] <CaelThunderwing> try setting your DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
#41 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> It's not DNS.
#42 [00:15] <CaelThunderwing> thats googles PublicDNS
#43 [00:15] <CaelThunderwing> nvr mnd
#44 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> fishy1954 - Do you have java 7 installed?
#45 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the news feed in the launcher?
#46 [00:16] <fishy1954> just instaled new version
#47 [00:16] <fishy1954> JavaSetup6u31
#48 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Java 7's been known to do this. If you installed java 7, uninstall it, reinstall 6
#49 [00:16] <fishy1954> thats installer name
#50 [00:16] <fishy1954> so is that #$7?
#51 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Check to see if you have java 7 installed.
#52 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> That installer looks like java 6, update 31
#53 [00:17] <fishy1954> where can i check?
#54 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#55 [00:17] <fishy1954> windows xp sp3
#56 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Check Control panel -> Add/remove programs
#57 [00:18] <fishy1954> then?
#58 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Look through the list to see what version(s) of java you have installed
#59 [00:19] <fishy1954> java 6 update 31
#60 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Is that the only one?
#61 [00:19] <fishy1954> yea
#62 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Hm
#63 [00:20] <GreyVulpine> In the launcher, do you get a news feed?
#64 [00:20] <fishy1954> yep
#65 [00:21] <GreyVulpine> Could you go to your start menu, hit Run. Type in: %userprofile% and press enter. Tell me the folder's name that you see pop up.
#66 [00:22] <fishy1954> C:\Documents and Settings\(username)
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#68 [00:22] <fishy1954> put usaername to protect identity
#69 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Does that username happen to have any exclaimation marks in it?
#70 [00:22] <fishy1954> nope
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#72 [00:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#73 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> What do you see when you go to this address via your browser? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#74 [00:23] <fishy1954> cant display webpage
#75 [00:23] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah
#76 [00:23] <fishy1954> yey a solution???
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#78 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Indeed. Go to your start menu. Go to Programs -> accessories -> Notepad.
#79 [00:24] <sugoi> wow that's never it
#80 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Right click on Notepad and Run as Admin.
#81 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> Tell me when you have notepad open
#82 [00:24] <sugoi> i mean you check it, but .. :)
#83 [00:24] <GreyVulpine> It's been a while...
#84 [00:25] <fishy1954> k opened
#85 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> Go up to File -> Open
#86 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> There, type in: %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
#87 [00:25] <GreyVulpine> When you have the file open, please look towards the bottom of the file. Do you see an entry for login.minecraft.net?
#88 [00:25] <fishy1954> YEP
#89 [00:26] <fishy1954> DELETE?
#90 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Remove that line entirely
#91 [00:26] <GreyVulpine> Resave the file. Then try the launcher
#92 [00:26] <fishy1954> I LOVE YOU!!!!!
#93 [00:26] * GreyVulpine coughs.
#93 [00:26] <fishy1954> YOU ARE A GOD
#94 [00:26] <fishy1954> finnaly days of googling done
#95 [00:26] <fishy1954> thanks again sooo much
#96 [00:27] * GreyVulpine tips hat.
#96 [00:27] <sugoi> fishy1954: the better question is, how did that get there?
#97 [00:27] <fishy1954> idk
#98 [00:27] <fishy1954> lol
#99 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> We all know how it got there.
#100 [00:27] * sugoi doesn't
#100 [00:27] <fishy1954> yes i was cracked for awhile
#101 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> ^
#102 [00:27] <fishy1954> but im permium now
#103 [00:27] <fishy1954> so all good
#104 [00:27] <sugoi> oh that
#105 [00:27] <fishy1954> t6.^
#106 [00:27] <fishy1954> k thx again ppls
#107 [00:27] <fishy1954> cya
#108 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Enjoy.
#109 [00:28] <sugoi> i assumed, given his surprise - that he himself had never touched the hosts file
#110 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> He probably didn't. The cracked version of minecraft did it for him
#111 [00:28] <sugoi> perhaps some installer or wacky malware crap
#112 [00:28] <sugoi> weird
#113 [00:28] <sugoi> ok
#114 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> I used to see it quite often around here.
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#120 [01:08] <OMaly069> Hey so I have been trying to play minecraft for the last 3 weeks, been searching the forums doing all the solutions that I can find but nothing works. When I log in on the client it does one of two things, A)It stops after it says its done loading and just sits there. Or B) It says its downloading packages and the bar wont move at all...
#121 [01:08] <OMaly069> can anyone help?
#122 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> What AV do you have?
#123 [01:08] <OMaly069> AV?
#124 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> Antivirus
#125 [01:09] <OMaly069> None... stupid I know but yeah
#126 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> No antivirus at all? You sure?
#127 [01:09] <OMaly069> I just have the Windows Firewall
#128 [01:10] <OMaly069> And Microsoft security essentials
#129 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#130 [01:11] <OMaly069> Windows 7
#131 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Have you gone to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata% and going to the '.minecraft' folder?
#132 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Deleting the files from there?
#133 [01:11] <OMaly069> Yes.
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#135 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> And when you run the launcher, the progress bar stops midway through?
#136 [01:13] <OMaly069> No like right near the beginning
#137 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Does it stop on any particular file?
#138 [01:14] <OMaly069> it never even shows the files downloading. It just says downloading packages and stops right there
#139 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> Could you right click on the launcher, and run it as administrator?
#140 [01:15] <OMaly069> tried that
#141 [01:15] * Wug suspects relevant knowledge
#141 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Check your system tray. Are you sure AVG/Avast/Mcafee/norton isn't installed?
#142 [01:15] <OMaly069> I normally run it as admin anyway
#143 [01:15] <Wug> OMaly069: ctrl+alt+delete
#144 [01:16] <Wug> go to the list of processes
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#147 [01:16] <Wug> tell us if theres one called rlvknlg.exe or something very similar
#148 [01:16] <OMaly069> Ok got it open
#149 [01:16] <OMaly069> Ya i see two of them...
#150 [01:16] <Wug> lol
#151 [01:16] <Wug> kill them both
#152 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Oi
#153 [01:17] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I hijacked ur session
#154 [01:17] <OMaly069> What is it
#155 [01:17] <Wug> OMaly069: its ???ware
#156 [01:17] <Wug> it supposedly does statistical tracking
#157 [01:17] <Wug> ie its basically spyware
#158 [01:17] <Wug> you can remove it from add/remove programs
#159 [01:17] <OMaly069> OK
#160 [01:18] <Wug> :rk
#161 [01:18] <Wug> ;search knowledge
#162 [01:18] <WugBot> No matches for "knowledge".
#163 [01:20] <OMaly069> OK so now im uninstalling it and its freezing on me....
#164 [01:20] <Wug> you uninstalled relevant knowledge? is it done uninstalling or is it still going
#165 [01:21] <OMaly069> It says its uninstalling
#166 [01:21] <Wug> wait for it to finish
#167 [01:21] <Wug> ;+ rk A specific spyware program called "Relevant Knowledge" is known to directly conflict with minecraft. Symptoms include failure of minecraft to download updates (either error messages or freezing while downloading).;;To check if you're affected, open the task manager (ctrl+alt+del) and search the list of processes for entries called "rlvknlg.exe". Relevant Knowledge can be uninstalled from add/remove programs.
#168 [01:21] <Wug> :rk
#169 [01:21] <WugBot> rk: A specific spyware program called "Relevant Knowledge" is known to directly conflict with minecraft. Symptoms include failure of minecraft to download updates (either error messages or freezing while downloading).
#170 [01:21] <WugBot> rk: To check if you're affected, open the task manager (ctrl+alt+del) and search the list of processes for entries called "rlvknlg.exe". Relevant Knowledge can be uninstalled from add/remove programs.
#171 [01:21] <Wug> looks good enough to me
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#173 [01:23] <OMaly069> Am I just impatient or is it being stupid if its not done uninstalling
#174 [01:23] <Wug> just give it a while
#175 [01:23] <GreyVulpine> Check to see if there's any prompts or other windows.
#176 [01:24] <OMaly069> nope nothing else popped up
#177 [01:24] <Wug> rk takes forever to uninstall
#178 [01:25] <OMaly069> fuuuhhhhh
#179 [01:25] <OMaly069> lol
#180 [01:26] <OMaly069> How did this get on here in the first place...
#181 [01:28] <Wug> you accidentally installed it
#182 [01:28] <Wug> you should probably use less pirated software
#183 [01:29] <Wug> just sayin
#184 [01:29] <OMaly069> >.>;; Never would I do that....
#185 [01:29] <OMaly069> Just movies... and music...
#186 [01:29] <Wug> I would never accuse someone of pirating things if they didnt have an antivirus
#187 [01:29] <Wug> that would be foolish
#188 [01:29] <Wug> *poke poke*
#189 [01:30] <OMaly069> Haha.
#190 [01:30] <OMaly069> Yes... very foolish.
#191 [01:35] <OMaly069> Ok so almost 20 minutes and its still not finished
#192 [01:35] <OMaly069> Ok so almost 20 minutes and its still not finished
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#195 [01:48] <OMaly069> All is working. Took almost half an hour for that stupid thing to uninstall
#196 [01:50] <Wug> lol
#197 [01:50] <OMaly069> but yeah I am currently playing now...starting a new world.....all over again.... sigh
#198 [01:52] <OMaly069> Thanks to you and Grey for all your help. You guys are lifesavers.
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#222 [04:50] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> Hi all
#223 [04:50] <puffrfish> hello KOOLGUY|ONLINE
#224 [04:50] <Calinou> hi
#225 [04:50] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> Do you have windown 7
#226 [04:51] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> window
#227 [04:51] <Calinou> why?
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#229 [04:51] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> ummmm
#230 [04:51] <Calinou> KOOLGUY|ONLINE, if you have a problem, just ask. don't ask to ask
#231 [04:52] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> dammit i forgot
#232 [04:52] <Calinou> well, stay around and try to remember it, then ask :P
#233 [04:52] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> K
#234 [04:55] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> i think i know again
#235 [04:55] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> I can't change my image to Winddows 7 screen
#236 [04:56] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> lol
#237 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> which image?
#238 [04:57] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> Do you have Windows 7?
#239 [04:57] <DiskDaemon> yes
#240 [04:58] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> What did you see when u go to your desktop for the 1st time?
#241 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> That was a long time ago, and depends on whether it's a native insatll or a preloaded image from your laptop manufacturer
#242 [04:59] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> how 'bout now what do you see?
#243 [05:00] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> did you change it?
#244 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> Currently my desktop wallpaper is of ice melting on a northern beach, with mountains in the background and the sun coming over the horizon
#245 [05:00] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> lol
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#247 [05:01] <KOOLGUY|ONLINE> my backgroud is... default i can't change it!
#248 [05:01] <puffrfish> do you have windows 7 starter?
#249 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> With an image in a folder that you want to use for the background, when you right-click on an image and choose "Set as desktop background" do you receive an error message of some kind?
#250 [05:12] <Calinou> win7 starter spotted.
#251 [05:12] <Calinou> also, ragequit
#252 [05:13] <Calinou> also, how is that related to minecraft? lol
#253 [05:14] <DiskDaemon> If he had stayed we could have pointed him to this http://www.instructables.com/id/Windows-7-Starter-Easy-way-to-change-wallpaper/
#254 [05:14] <Calinou> ^
#255 [05:14] <Calinou> last tihng: don't use win7 starter.
#256 [05:14] <Calinou> lol
#257 [05:14] <Calinou> thing*
#258 [05:15] <Calinou> wait until october/november 2012 where no computers will be sold with win7, only win8
#259 [05:15] <Calinou> then ragequit to linux. :D
#260 [05:18] <DiskDaemon> Best Windows 8 feature is the Refresh Your PC option
#261 [05:20] <DiskDaemon> Or the "Reset your PC and start over" one. Yeah - that one just reboots your computer, go ahead...
#262 [05:23] <Calinou> lol
#263 [05:24] <Calinou> "best" windows 8 feature: being sold with almost PCs
#264 [05:24] <Calinou> "MONIES"
#265 [05:24] <Calinou> ^ that's how microsoft makes most of their money, probably
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#267 [05:28] <Boreeas> When I got my first Windows 7 PC, it took me about 5 minutes to figure out how to change the wallpaper. Not that hard, really.
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#269 [05:32] <DiskDaemon> Boreeas: But, this was Windows 7 Starter, which has many things (including changing wallpaper) removed from it.
#270 [05:32] <Boreeas> Wut
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#272 [05:32] <Boreeas> Why would anyone do that
#273 [05:32] <puffrfish> it is generally put on netbooks and very low end laptops
#274 [05:32] <puffrfish> super cheap
#275 [05:32] <DiskDaemon> Why would Microsoft remove such features?
#276 [05:33] <puffrfish> in hopes that people will upgrade to home basic
#277 [05:33] <DiskDaemon> To sell it cheap and encourage people to buy an upgrade - yes.
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#283 [06:23] <Calinou> <puffrfish> in hopes that people will upgrade to home basic
#284 [06:23] <Calinou> you mean home premium :P
#285 [06:25] <Grim_Reaper> Home premium x_x
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#288 [06:27] <DiskDaemon> indeed - it doesn't seem to be possible to upgrade from starter to home basic
#289 [06:28] <Grim_Reaper> You try using the windows anytime upgrade I guess
#290 [06:28] <DiskDaemon> read about it at least anyhow:)
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#292 [06:30] <puffrfish> oh, I wasn't aware they didn't offer that
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#305 [07:32] <NinjaKirby> Is there a failsafe to prevent unpurchased copies of Minecraft from functioning in Survival mode for longer then a certain period of time?
#306 [07:33] <NinjaKirby> That proably sounds really dubious XD
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#308 [07:39] <Calinou> NinjaKirby, no point in doing this
#309 [07:40] <Calinou> better let pirates pirate, imo.
#310 [07:40] <Calinou> it doesn't hurt that much
#311 [07:40] <Calinou> mojang is rich enough, too. :P
#312 [07:40] <Calinou> pirates usualy end up buying MC to play multiplayer on online mode
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#316 [08:07] <NinjaKirby> Thanks for the response Calinou :)
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#330 [10:01] <nicky|sleep> hi
#331 [10:01] <nicky|sleep> Can someone help me with installing IC2?
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#334 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> The #Industrial-Craft channel perhaps?
#335 [10:02] <nicky|sleep> oh
#336 [10:02] <nicky|sleep> ty
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#338 [10:07] <MysterioN> Hey, Minecraft crashes when I try to start it on a Linux Mint 12(x64), with a Radeon HD 6770 card with the latest drivers installed. The error log can be found here http://pastebin.com/SXSNTLfw Any ideas on this one? Thanks in advanc
#339 [10:08] <DiskDaemon> There was someone else with Mint who had what seems to be a similar issue - I'll check my logs
#340 [10:11] <DiskDaemon> From earlier, where he was on Mint - "[16:12] <madgreenb> wug i just want to say thanks. i found out that i forgot to install mt gfx card driver (derp) and the problem is fixed (although i had to replace those files, so you helped tons) :)"
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#342 [10:20] <MysterioN> Thanks, I just tried to update LWJGL to version 2.8.3 first and now I'm getting this error instead 27 achievements
#343 [10:20] <MysterioN> 182 recipes
#344 [10:20] <MysterioN> Setting user: MysteriooN, 7228791985446168622
#345 [10:20] <MysterioN> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: org.lwjgl.DefaultSysImplementation.getPointerSize()I
#346 [10:20] <MysterioN> woops, ment to send a pastebin link xD
#347 [10:20] <MysterioN> http://pastebin.com/YeXw7JiK
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#369 [11:48] <chikkenslayer12> hello i need help with mods
#370 [11:48] <nicky> lol
#371 [11:48] <nicky> same as me
#372 [11:48] <nicky> ic2?
#373 [11:49] <chikkenslayer12> nope
#374 [11:49] <chikkenslayer12> i need help with downloadin
#375 [11:49] <chikkenslayer12> nicky do u have a mic
#376 [11:49] <chikkenslayer12> i could help u if u can help me
#377 [11:51] <DiskDaemon> what's the problem?
#378 [11:51] <chikkenslayer12> i need to know my downloads arnt working
#379 [11:51] <chikkenslayer12> i cant click spoilers
#380 [11:51] <chikkenslayer12> do you know y?
#381 [11:51] <DiskDaemon> which spoilers don't seem to work for you?
#382 [11:52] <Morrolan> chikkenslayer12 - Use the "quote" functionality to quote the post, then you'll see the download links inside the spoiler tags.
#383 [11:52] <Morrolan> However that is more of a workaround than a fix.
#384 [11:52] <chikkenslayer12> ?
#385 [11:53] <chikkenslayer12> i cant even right click the show spoiler
#386 [11:53] <Morrolan> I take it you're talking about a forum post, right?
#387 [11:53] <chikkenslayer12> yep
#388 [11:53] <chikkenslayer12> i need nei
#389 [11:53] <Morrolan> Scroll down, there should be a button titled "quote" somewhere, use that one, then grab the links out of the quoted post.
#390 [11:53] <chikkenslayer12> redpower plugin
#391 [11:53] <DiskDaemon> Reply to the post with the spoilers using the Quote button, and the spoilers can then be seen. Just don't submit the reply.
#392 [11:54] <chikkenslayer12> u cant wuate
#393 [11:54] <chikkenslayer12> quate
#394 [11:54] <DiskDaemon> link?
#395 [11:55] <chikkenslayer12> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/909223-125-smp-chickenbones-mods/
#396 [11:55] <DiskDaemon> web browser & version?
#397 [11:55] <chikkenslayer12> i need nei plugin for rp2 1.2.5
#398 [11:55] <chikkenslayer12> i have been using all
#399 [11:55] <chikkenslayer12> googlechrome
#400 [11:55] <chikkenslayer12> explorer
#401 [11:55] <chikkenslayer12> and firefox
#402 [11:55] <Morrolan> You have been left-clicking the little "show" button to the right of the spoiler, right?
#403 [11:55] <Morrolan> Either way, which plugin do you need?
#404 [11:55] <chikkenslayer12> yep
#405 [11:56] <chikkenslayer12> red power 2 plugin nei 1.2.5
#406 [11:56] <DiskDaemon> how odd, I wish I could duplicate the issue
#407 [11:56] <chikkenslayer12> you know you guys are really helpful
#408 [11:56] <chikkenslayer12> cause direwolf channel
#409 [11:56] <chikkenslayer12> they quited me
#410 [11:56] <chikkenslayer12> cause i asked for help
#411 [11:57] <chikkenslayer12> they said need anyhelp the i asked and they just muted me
#412 [11:57] <chikkenslayer12> disk
#413 [11:57] <Morrolan> NEI client: http://adf.ly/4KQKk
#414 [11:57] <chikkenslayer12> i dont need nei
#415 [11:57] <chikkenslayer12> i need plugin
#416 [11:57] <Morrolan> Oh
#417 [11:58] <chikkenslayer12> redpower 2 plugin
#418 [11:58] <chikkenslayer12> for 1.2.5
#419 [11:58] <Morrolan> Hmm, "RedPower Config Module" I see here.
#420 [11:58] <chikkenslayer12> yep
#421 [11:58] <Morrolan> "RedPower Config Module. Provides: RedPower Subset Tags, Alloy Furnace recipies and Showing of all MicroBlocks. Requires: NotEnoughItems+RedPower"
#422 [11:59] <chikkenslayer12> yep
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#424 [11:59] <Morrolan> http://adf.ly/4KQKj this would be the link then.
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#426 [12:00] <chikkenslayer12> can i get the 4096 block fix v2 1.2.5
#427 [12:00] <chikkenslayer12> can i get that plz
#428 [12:01] <Zimsky> Google it yourself.
#429 [12:02] <chikkenslayer12> ive been trying
#430 [12:02] <chikkenslayer12> i cant click on spoilers
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#432 [12:04] <BamBamm> hello
#433 [12:05] <BamBamm> i have a problem whith minecraft at start, whith the java virtuel maschiene
#434 [12:05] <BamBamm> can some one help me ?
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#437 [12:11] <BamBamm> hello
#438 [12:11] <BamBamm> someone here ?
#439 [12:14] <AmberK> hm?
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#441 [12:15] <BamBamm> i have a problem whith the java virtuell mashine, can you help me ?
#442 [12:15] <AmberK> What exactly is your issue?
#443 [12:16] <chikkenslayer12> ok plz
#444 [12:16] <BamBamm> error: could not create the java virtuel machine
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#446 [12:16] <chikkenslayer12> i need help i cant find the thing
#447 [12:16] <chikkenslayer12> 4096 block id fix 1.2.5
#448 [12:17] <BamBamm> and
#449 [12:17] <chikkenslayer12> thats what i need and i cant find it att all
#450 [12:17] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft 1.2.5 supports 4096 blocks out of the box now
#451 [12:17] <chikkenslayer12> o really
#452 [12:17] <AmberK> BamBamm
#453 [12:17] <chikkenslayer12> wow
#454 [12:17] <AmberK> Mind uploading your startup script to pastebin?
#455 [12:17] <BamBamm> error a fatal exception has occurred. programm will exit
#456 [12:17] <chikkenslayer12> so i dont need the mod
#457 [12:18] <BamBamm> i dont know
#458 [12:18] <BamBamm> where can i see it
#459 [12:19] <AmberK> Right click what you start it with
#460 [12:19] <AmberK> and then click edit
#461 [12:19] <AmberK> then copy paste that to http://pastebin.com
#462 [12:20] <DiskDaemon> from Block.java -> blocksList = new Block[4096];
#463 [12:20] <chikkenslayer12> ok
#464 [12:20] <chikkenslayer12> i need the block fix
#465 [12:20] <chikkenslayer12> can someone send it to me plz
#466 [12:20] <chikkenslayer12> i really need it
#467 [12:20] <BamBamm> okay
#468 [12:20] <chikkenslayer12> and i cant find it anywere
#469 [12:20] <BamBamm> thx
#470 [12:20] <chikkenslayer12> plz
#471 [12:20] <chikkenslayer12> !
#472 [12:20] <chikkenslayer12> help
#473 [12:21] <chikkenslayer12> ?
#474 [12:21] <chikkenslayer12> y did i get muted?
#475 [12:21] <Morrolan> chikkenslayer12 - I suggest you try to fix your browser. Ask the guys in #minecraftforums whether they know what you might have to enable to be able to open spoilertags.
#476 [12:21] <Eddie> You were muted for using your Enter key too much.
#477 [12:21] <Eddie> Please proceed ahead with caution.
#478 [12:29] <Morrolan> Mind the traps and bears etc etc.
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#481 [12:38] <Calinou> I give this channel the "longest topic ever" award.
#482 [12:38] <Calinou> :P
#483 [12:39] <DiskDaemon> The #aethermod channel gives this topic a run for its money
#484 [12:40] <DiskDaemon> The #minecraft topic is longer too
#485 [12:42] <Dan> Calinou, ive seen longer and done longer
#486 [12:42] * Calinou is banned from #minecraft
#486 [12:43] <DiskDaemon> You can still see the topic in the channel list
#487 [12:43] <Calinou> true :P
#488 [12:44] <Calinou> I'm just quieted...
#489 [12:44] <Boreeas> Boreeas has changed the topic to “long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long | long topic is long |...
#490 [12:44] <Calinou> #minecraft's topic is slightly longer yes
#491 [12:44] <Boreeas> ...long topic is long | long topic i”
#492 [12:44] <Boreeas> I win
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#494 [12:44] <Eddie> o.O
#495 [12:44] <Calinou> hi Eddie
#496 [12:44] <Eddie> hi
#497 [12:44] <Dan> Boreeas, more like fail cause Calinou butted in
#498 [12:44] <Calinou> now we need bill, fred and john
#499 [12:45] <Boreeas> Dammit Calinou
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#501 [12:46] <Gurkenglas> What software do you recommend to record Minecraft for Youtube?
#502 [12:46] <Calinou> I never watch videos due to my **** connection :P
#503 [12:47] <Calinou> depends of your OS.
#504 [12:47] <Gurkenglas> Vista
#505 [12:47] <Gurkenglas> >Here, I bought you one of these cobuters you kids always talk about
#506 [12:47] <Calinou> FRAPS should work well but its free version limits to 30 second video (you can make several ones and attach them, but it's still improper)
#507 [12:47] <Gurkenglas> eww.
#508 [12:47] <Calinou> on linux there is gtk-recordmydesktop. no restrictions with this one :P
#509 [12:47] <Gurkenglas> How do others do it?
#510 [12:47] <Calinou> dunno, ask them
#511 [12:47] <Calinou> I don't make/watch videos
#512 [12:47] <Dan> Calinou, Recordmydesktop is a bit broken
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#514 [12:48] <Calinou> Dan, ikr but it works
#515 [12:48] <paulens12> hi
#516 [12:48] <Dan> Kazam works better
#517 [12:48] <Calinou> hi
#518 [12:48] <Calinou> o,o
#519 [12:48] <paulens12> lol i can't decompile minecraft xD
#520 [12:48] <paulens12> i'll go to mcp chat
#521 [12:48] <paulens12> ;D
#522 [12:48] <Calinou> why
#523 [12:48] <Calinou> just use .mcp?
#524 [12:49] <Calinou> ...why did I put a "." first?
#525 [12:49] <Calinou> silly me. MCP isn't hard to use
#526 [12:49] <Calinou> paulens12, you're going to get banned from their channels for "being a n00b"
#527 [12:49] <Calinou> they don't really support people that can't get MCP to work
#528 [12:49] <Calinou> they're getting tired of them
#529 [12:50] <paulens12> ?
#530 [12:50] <paulens12> lol
#531 [12:50] <paulens12> then
#532 [12:50] <paulens12> can you help me? xD
#533 [12:50] <paulens12> it works
#534 [12:50] <paulens12> but when i try to decompile minecraft with modloader..
#535 [12:50] <paulens12> it fials
#536 [12:50] <paulens12> fails*
#537 [12:50] <Calinou> don't use enter as punctuation
#538 [12:50] <paulens12> lol xD
#539 [12:50] <paulens12> i know
#540 [12:51] <Calinou> paulens12, try to update MCP using updatemcp.bat
#541 [12:51] <paulens12> i did that
#542 [12:51] <Calinou> also, did you mod the .jar to decompile properly?
#543 [12:51] <Dan> why cant anybody in the IRCs use ONE LINE to talk on here. this is not MSN or Yahoo messenger
#544 [12:51] <paulens12> emm yes i think so
#545 [12:51] <Calinou> removed meta-inf?
#546 [12:51] <paulens12> yes i did
#547 [12:51] <Boreeas> Dan, most of us do. One line per sentence, at least.
#548 [12:51] <paulens12> dan if you write too long lines you can miss something xD
#549 [12:52] <Dan> and breaking up the lines can get you kicked
#550 [12:52] <paulens12> O.o
#551 [12:52] <paulens12> only muted lol xD
#552 [12:52] <paulens12> One line per sentence is ok...
#553 [12:53] <paulens12> but when you write too much you can jsut miss something
#554 [12:53] <Boreeas> Yeah, but you don't do that
#555 [12:53] <paulens12> just*
#556 [12:53] <paulens12> omg
#557 [12:53] <paulens12> lol nevermind xD
#558 [12:53] <Boreeas> Also, learn to write without looking at the keyboard
#559 [12:53] <paulens12> i can
#560 [12:53] <Dan> paulens12, that right there is just annoying and i kick people for doing that
#561 [12:53] <paulens12> do that
#562 [12:53] <paulens12> -.-
#563 [12:54] <paulens12> ok let's stop talking about that
#564 [12:54] <paulens12> sorry for ENTERs
#565 [12:54] <paulens12> xD
#566 [12:54] <Calinou> "<Boreeas> Also, learn to write without looking at the keyboard"
#567 [12:54] <Calinou> how is that related?
#568 [12:55] <paulens12> so you don't miss anything lol
#569 [12:55] <paulens12> you can see new messages on the screen while writing xD
#570 [12:56] <Boreeas> ^
#571 [12:58] <Dan> paulens12, how about dont hit enter till your done
#572 [12:59] <paulens12> Dan how about:
#573 [12:59] <paulens12> 19:54 paulens12 ok let's stop talking about that
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#575 [12:59] <paulens12> and this: 19:54 paulens12 sorry for ENTERs
#576 [13:00] <Dan> paulens12, think about this, i work in a support IRC a lot and when people hit enter a lot, they see a size 12 boot
#577 [13:00] * AmberK only has size 7 or 8's....
#577 [13:01] <Boreeas> Dan, please drop it.
#578 [13:01] <paulens12> omg now he will never stop talking about that..
#579 [13:01] <paulens12> -.-
#580 [13:01] <Eddie> Order.
#581 [13:01] <Dan> ok but i wont pick it up again around anybody HEY-O
#582 [13:01] <paulens12> ...
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#584 [13:19] <paulens12> is there a channel for modloader?
#585 [13:20] <Calinou> #risucraft
#586 [13:20] <Calinou> beware: full of trolls
#587 [13:20] <Eddie> Pfft trolls
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#589 [13:20] <paulens12> lol
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#591 [13:21] <iGo> Hi. Anyone know a fix for "Bad login" stuff?
#592 [13:22] <Calinou> iGo, restart the game, it should work.
#593 [13:22] <Calinou> you might have to do it several times.
#594 [13:22] <iGo> done that plenty of times - for a couple of days now tbh
#595 [13:22] <Calinou> maybe it's the server fault, try another server
#596 [13:22] <iGo> the problem is that, whenever i try to login using the launchter, it says "Login failed" and i can only play offline
#597 [13:22] <iGo> even though i am connected to the internet
#598 [13:23] <iGo> and minecraft is added to the firewalls approved progams
#599 [13:23] <iGo> i can log in just fine using the browser version of minecraft
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#601 [13:26] <iGo> no one?
#602 [13:27] <Calinou> iGo, try using the .jar launcher
#603 [13:27] <Calinou> a bit involved but it may work
#604 [13:28] <Calinou> download it here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#605 [13:28] <Calinou> put this on your desktop or whatever.
#606 [13:28] <iGo> "Could not find the mainclass...."
#607 [13:28] <Calinou> did you execute it with java?
#608 [13:28] <Calinou> what java version are you using?
#609 [13:29] <iGo> just updated to the newest
#610 [13:29] <Calinou> don't use java 7 for minecraft, it can be buggy
#611 [13:29] <Calinou> java 7 is still experimental
#612 [13:29] <Eddie> Is it?
#613 [13:29] <iGo> "You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 31)." @ Calinou
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#615 [13:30] <Calinou> Eddie, yep
#616 [13:30] <Calinou> iGo, 32 bit or 64 bit?
#617 [13:30] <iGo> 32
#618 [13:30] <Calinou> if you're on a 64 bit OS you should use 64 bit
#619 [13:30] <Calinou> you can see if your OS is 32 bit or 64 bit in the control panel.
#620 [13:30] <iGo> its 32
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#622 [13:32] <Calinou> :/
#623 [13:32] <kenshin2666> good afternoon
#624 [13:32] <Calinou> try disabling your firewall and see if it works
#625 [13:32] <Calinou> hi
#626 [13:32] <kenshin2666> is greyvulp around?
#627 [13:33] <Calinou> you know there is tab-complete? type in the beginning of a name, press tab
#628 [13:33] <Calinou> he is on this channel but he may not be here right now.
#629 [13:34] <DopeGhoti> that's what /finger is for. It shows idle time.
#630 [13:34] <kenshin2666> im just tired and hung over
#631 [13:34] <iGo> Calinou tried that already.. It all started after i reinstalled minecraft
#632 [13:34] <kenshin2666> i was talking with GreyVulpine yesterday about an issue and promptly had to leave to get to class
#633 [13:35] <Calinou> iGo, delete the "bin" folder in the .minecraft folder
#634 [13:35] <Calinou> on windows it is in %appdata%
#635 [13:35] <Calinou> press windows+R then type in: %appdata%
#636 [13:35] <iGo> i kno
#637 [13:35] <iGo> w
#638 [13:36] <iGo> aaaaaand.. now it says: "Login failed (Not downloaded)
#639 [13:36] <iGo> "
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#641 [13:37] <iGo> the only way i can install minecraft is by using the in-browser version
#642 [13:37] <kenshin2666> if someone could have a look at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1186500-intel-hd-graphics-issue/
#643 [13:43] <kenshin2666> guess not o-o
#644 [13:51] <AlmtyBob> kenshin2666: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=rBS&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=+site:minecraftforum.net+%22intel+HD%22+minecraft+%22bad+video+card+drivers%22&sa=X&ei=gDmYT7DuM-Si2wW28J1l&ved=0CD4QrQIwAg
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#646 [13:54] <AlmtyBob> kenshin2666: from the forum: I just fixed this problem. (I had it to) It really is your driver. Even thought windows says it is not up to date there wrong. I recommend manually downloading the driver update from your manufacturers web site. I just fixed this problem. (I had it to) It really is your driver. Even thought windows says it is not up to date there wrong. I recommend manually
#647 [13:54] <AlmtyBob> downloading the driver update from your manufacturers web site.
#648 [13:55] <iGo> no one can help?
#649 [13:56] <kenshin2666> ive done that already though
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#673 [15:34] <Viesca01> hi
#674 [15:34] <Viesca01> help
#675 [15:35] <Viesca01> help?
#676 [15:35] <Viesca01> help?
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#679 [15:36] <Viesca01> Recently I have bought the minecraft and all good up to today that proves that he says to me that I am not premium as if he had bought it ever
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#695 [16:32] <Stygander> hmm, does anyone here know where i change the flans mod crafting ids?
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#700 [16:44] <sugoi> flans mod?
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#703 [16:44] <sugoi> btw, this typically isn't a mod channel
#704 [16:44] <sugoi> typically :)
#705 [16:44] <sugoi> Stygander: try #risucraft and #bukkit
#706 [16:44] <sugoi> or, check if that mod has their own irc channel
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#712 [17:07] <superkabii> can MCF usernames be changed?
#713 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> MCF?
#714 [17:09] <CoryB> GreyVulpine- MinecraftForums\
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#716 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Ah. *shrug*
#717 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> May want to ask in #minecraftforums
#718 [17:09] <CoryB> ^
#719 [17:13] <SlashLife> *sigh* I'd love to change the capitalization of my Minecraft nick.
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#756 [20:03] <Magix> what's the exact science on sheep eating grass
#757 [20:04] <Magix> can they do it while floating in water? can they do it if the grass is infront of them? what if there's glass ontop of that grass?
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#762 [20:11] <oldtopman> Magix: We're waiting for the sheep scientist to report in.
#763 [20:11] <Magix> ty I'll hold
#764 [20:11] <Magix> although it seems as if the sheep need to be standing on the grass block
#765 [20:11] <Magix> to eat it
#766 [20:12] <oldtopman> Magix: The sheep scientist says that the sheep need to be standing on the grass block.
#767 [20:12] <Magix> damn.
#768 [20:12] <Magix> I was hoping to make a fam.
#769 [20:12] <Magix> farm.
#770 [20:13] <oldtopman> The sheep scientist says that this may hinder farm development.
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#778 [21:05] <Lopsin> Someone help this is urgent!
#779 [21:05] <KleptoKat> Sure, shoot.
#780 [21:05] <Lopsin> I was downloading mods, then, I guess I downloaded too many, and now minecraft won't work
#781 [21:05] <Lopsin> It said it crashed
#782 [21:06] <Lopsin> So I deleted all the classes
#783 [21:06] <Lopsin> Now, when I attempt to launch it
#784 [21:06] <Lopsin> The "Updating Minecraft" screen stops and it will never open,
#785 [21:06] <KleptoKat> Okay, go ahead and delete your entire minecraft.jar. NOT your .minecraft
#786 [21:06] <Lopsin> I downloaded the zip again, used my backups, and everything, won't work
#787 [21:06] <KleptoKat> That should fix it.
#788 [21:06] <KleptoKat> Okay
#789 [21:06] <Lopsin> My minecraft.jar turned into a minecraft.jar.zip
#790 [21:06] <KleptoKat> Backup your worlds
#791 [21:06] <Lopsin> I made it one.
#792 [21:06] <KleptoKat> and your servers
#793 [21:07] <KleptoKat> and then delete your entire .minecraft
#794 [21:07] <KleptoKat> put your worlds and such back
#795 [21:07] <Lopsin> Alright
#796 [21:07] <Lopsin> So just EVERYTHING then start over with my backupped minecraft?
#797 [21:07] <Lopsin> I mean
#798 [21:07] <Lopsin> Not minecraft
#799 [21:07] <Lopsin> My backed up stuff
#800 [21:07] <KleptoKat> Just backup your worlds and anything you feel is special
#801 [21:07] <KleptoKat> Then delete your .minecraft
#802 [21:17] <Lopsin> How do I get the servers? There's only a servers.dat which I can't open.
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#804 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? smp/servers
#805 [21:17] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#806 [21:17] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewforum.php?f=1025. Also, try the #smp channel.
#807 [21:18] <Lopsin> Omg read the fricking conversation above
#808 [21:18] <KleptoKat> Oh, sorry
#809 [21:18] <KleptoKat> uh
#810 [21:18] <KleptoKat> one moment
#811 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Oh, if you want to back up your server.dat, just move it aside
#812 [21:19] <Lopsin> And then plop it in later?
#813 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#814 [21:19] <Lopsin> Thanks
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#818 [21:49] <Grey__Wolf> Is there anyone available to answer a couple of questions?
#819 [21:50] <puffrfish> just ask Grey__Wolf
#820 [21:50] <Grey__Wolf> well, how long does emailing technical support usually take to get a response?
#821 [21:50] <Grey__Wolf> I sent an email early yesterday, it will be almost 48 hours now with not so much as a peep
#822 [21:51] <puffrfish> technical support for who?
#823 [21:51] <Grey__Wolf> and secondly, my account says i am not premium, yet i have no pending credits on my credit card, so i am not support
#824 [21:51] <Grey__Wolf> i am not thrilled with the lack of support
#825 [21:52] <Grey__Wolf> technical support for the game, i want to know why my account has been downgraded.
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#827 [21:57] <Grey__Wolf> so, i will assume puffrfish isnt with Mojang....
#828 [21:57] * Grey__Wolf grins
#828 [21:59] <AmberK> erm
#829 [21:59] <AmberK> wut
#830 [21:59] <Grey__Wolf> nm, i will wait till i se an op or higher active...
#831 [22:00] <AmberK> On here?
#832 [22:00] <AmberK> No one here is officially related with Mojang I believe
#833 [22:01] <Grey__Wolf> nice, so they suggest this chat for help for what reason?
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#835 [22:03] <mickster04> !paid Grey__Wolf
#836 [22:04] <mickster04> Grey__Wolf: we will try to help with support, but more about the game than account issues...
#837 [22:05] <mickster04> Grey__Wolf: i assume that your minecraft username is also Grey__Wolf ?
#838 [22:10] <Grey__Wolf> yes
#839 [22:11] <Grey__Wolf> but if this isnt for account support, no need, i can see what other avenues i have
#840 [22:16] <mickster04> so the database doesn't think you have paid
#841 [22:16] <mickster04> so that's all we can do from this end
#842 [22:17] <AmberK> try help.mojang.com
#843 [22:17] <AmberK> (I believe that's right?)
#844 [22:18] <Grey__Wolf> ive been there for 3 days now....
#845 [22:20] <AmberK> And what exactly have you done?
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#847 [22:21] <ckielcave666> hi.. im new into the game.. hit that game whyle youtubing... so i try the ants version of the game... but now i would like to play multi player... i guess i have to buy the game to do so.. or i can play on private server ?
#848 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> You would need to purchase the game to play premium
#849 [22:21] <AmberK> You can play on a private server
#850 [22:21] <AmberK> with offline mode
#851 [22:21] <AmberK> but
#852 [22:22] <ckielcave666> ok
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#853 [22:23] <ckielcave666> and is there a other way to buy the game if i dont have a credit card ? like by phone or sms or maby i saw the gift coupon... maby can get it from a party webpage ?
#854 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> There is only one way to purchase minecraft, and that's from minecraft.net
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#856 [22:24] <AmberK> There are payment options on the website
#857 [22:24] <AmberK> As for buying gift codes
#858 [22:24] <AmberK> I would be careful
#859 [22:24] <ckielcave666> true but they are all for credit card... ill try to ask a friend
#860 [22:31] <mickster04> ckielcave666: or a parent?
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#862 [22:35] <ckielcave666> lol im 29
#863 [22:35] <ckielcave666> i dont tink my mom would buy me that
#864 [22:36] <ckielcave666> its just i dont have credit card
#865 [22:36] <ckielcave666> personal choice
#866 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Could always grab a paypal account, link it up with your bank account, and pay for minecraft through paypal.
#867 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Might take a little bit longer, but you wouldn't need a credit card then
#868 [22:38] <AmberK> debit cards work fine as well
#869 [22:38] <AmberK> I would assume you at least have a checking account >`>
#870 [22:39] <ckielcave666> true.. i have a paypal acount.. linked on my bank acount.. but still have to whait like 10 days to have the money ... but its ok was just looking to play right now .. i will buy it as soon a friend come by lol
#871 [22:39] <ckielcave666> you can make it with debit ?
#872 [22:41] <ckielcave666> nah they dont have
#873 [22:41] <ckielcave666> but like i say its all good
#874 [22:41] <ckielcave666> but..
#875 [22:41] <ckielcave666> for now..
#876 [22:41] <ckielcave666> on youtube.. i saw prison escape ...
#877 [22:41] <ckielcave666> can i play that like alone
#878 [22:41] <ckielcave666> without paying ?
#879 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> No.
#880 [22:42] <ckielcave666> oh
#881 [22:42] <Grey__Wolf> AmberK, you cannot play on a private server without a premium membership, so you are aware
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#883 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Grey__Wolf - You can, if the server is running in offline-mode
#884 [22:43] <KleptoKat> Oh hey, ckielcave666, you can always go to your local gas station and buy VISA prepaid cards
#885 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> The server would not check to see if the username has indeed been paid for
#886 [22:43] <AmberK> Yes you can
#887 [22:43] <AmberK> lol
#888 [22:44] * AmberK replied before reading
#888 [22:44] <ckielcave666> ok and where can i find some server.. in offline-mode ???
#889 [22:45] <AmberK> Looked up "cracked" server
#890 [22:45] <AmberK> it's typically what people call them for some reason
#891 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> We also typically don't help with offline/cracked servers
#892 [22:45] <AmberK> I personally do, but only with the normal technical issues you'd see anyhow
#893 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Because it allows people who haven't paid, to play minecraft.
#894 [22:45] <ckielcave666> oh ok i get that hehe
#895 [22:45] <Grey__Wolf> GreyVulpine, I have the server in offline mode, and when i login, i dont have any of my credentials as the admin. You can play it, but you dont have anything that you had when your account showed as a premium account. I have been adjusting all that for 3 hours now because i am trying to find a way around it at this point because i am fed up with the lack of response to my emails
#896 [22:46] <Grey__Wolf> It isnt the same as having a premium account, trust me.
#897 [22:46] <Grey__Wolf> So in the end, offline mode is junk.
#898 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> But it allows you to play in a server without the server checking to see if it's a premium account. Yes you don't have the premium features, but people who play in offline mode, don't care
#899 [22:46] <Grey__Wolf> Which makes sense, it should be so you pay for it
#900 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> What exactly was your issue again?
#901 [22:47] <Grey__Wolf> But, when you pay for it and get screwed, not even getting your money back, its frustrating.
#902 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Did you get minecraft from minecraft.net, or a third-party?
#903 [22:47] <Grey__Wolf> My account is showing as not premium after paying for it last week, I have sent emails to support, and have a better chance of getting a response from Microsoft at this point.
#904 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Mojang is actually several months behind in backlog.
#905 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Their support gets hundreds of emails daily, so the response time is a bit lagged.
#906 [22:48] <Grey__Wolf> Minecraft.net, I never buy from 3rd party, the 3rd party payment system even made me queasy, and this is why
#907 [22:48] <Grey__Wolf> Funny, it turned on in 5 minutes, then went away again.
#908 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Grey__Wolf - Then there's one of two things that happened. The most likely one that we see often, is that people have multiple accounts that they created under minecraft.net, and they simply forgot which one they paid for.
#909 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> With that, you can just request a username with http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#910 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> It'll send back an email with all the MC usernames associated with that email.
#911 [22:49] <Grey__Wolf> Yeah, no, I specifically made that account to play on my own private server with my family
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#913 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> The 2nd thing we notice quite often, is that the person's bank or financial institution did a chargeback on the purchase.
#914 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Either this is from the bank's anti-fraud measures, or the person unknowingly did a chargeback on their bank because they were unfamiliar with Mojang/Minecraft
#915 [22:50] <Grey__Wolf> Then my credit card would show the chargeback, but I am out the money still.
#916 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Could you do a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email accounts you normally use?
#917 [22:52] <mickster04> Grey__Wolf: millions of people have safely bought through that system...has the money been taken from the account you used to pay with?
#918 [22:52] <Grey__Wolf> i have all the confirmations on the email i used
#919 [22:52] <Grey__Wolf> yes, the money is gone guys
#920 [22:52] <Grey__Wolf> the account worked
#921 [22:52] <Grey__Wolf> then it didnt work
#922 [22:53] <Grey__Wolf> I like that script, thats an idea to write into my op script..
#923 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Well then, there's not much else we can suggest here. Call up your credit card, make sure payment hasn't been reversed recently. Otherwise, the backlog Mojang's working through hasn't gotten past the first month or two of this year yet.
#924 [22:55] <Grey__Wolf> Nice
#925 [22:55] <Grey__Wolf> Ok, thanks guys.
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#927 [23:02] <Wug> o.O multiple grey ones
#928 [23:02] * GreyVulpine laughs maniacally.
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#929 [23:07] <mickster04> wi saw that...had to be careful when tab completing :p
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#931 [23:19] <Cruple> GreyVulpine
#932 [23:19] <Cruple> You are still here :D
#933 [23:19] <Cruple> Man, you are too nice
#934 [23:19] <Cruple> :)
#935 [23:19] <Cruple> I've just been lookin on different forums
#936 [23:20] <Cruple> and lots of people say your a regular on here
#937 [23:20] <Cruple> so i came to check up on that :)
#938 [23:21] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#938 [23:22] <Cruple> X)
#939 [23:23] <Cruple> Hey
#940 [23:23] <Cruple> I was wondering if you could help me out again.
#941 [23:23] <GreyVulpine> What's the problem?
#942 [23:23] <Cruple> I got a new voip + router thing now
#943 [23:23] <Cruple> and once i plugged it in,
#944 [23:24] <Cruple> the whole server port forwarding thing screwed up
#945 [23:24] <GreyVulpine> Ah, yeah. You'll need to put in a new port forwarding rule for that router
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#947 [23:25] <Cruple> Ya
#948 [23:25] <Cruple> I figured as much
#949 [23:25] <Cruple> I tried
#950 [23:25] <Cruple> But to no prevail
#951 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> Happen to have teamviewer?
#952 [23:25] <Cruple> Here,
#953 [23:25] <Cruple> Yup
#954 [23:25] <Cruple> stil do
#955 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> PM me the info.
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#957 [23:25] <Olican101> hi
#958 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> 'lo
#959 [23:26] <Cruple> Got it?
#960 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Yup, one moment
#961 [23:26] <Olican101> can u help me set up a server?
#962 [23:26] <Cruple> and hello Olican101
#963 [23:26] <Cruple> Yes
#964 [23:26] <Cruple> I can actually
#965 [23:26] <Wug> Olican101: what do you need help with
#966 [23:26] <Cruple> I'm not bad at it as long as ou have 1 router
#967 [23:26] <Cruple> or 2 even
#968 [23:27] <Olican101> well hamachi makes it lag to much and i dont have a router so cant port forward... how can i set up a server?
#969 [23:27] <Olican101> no answers anywhere xD
#970 [23:27] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#971 [23:27] <Cruple> You have to have a router
#972 [23:27] <Wug> Olican101: you probably do have a router
#973 [23:27] <Cruple> or a moden
#974 [23:27] <Olican101> that requires port forwarding
#975 [23:28] <Cruple> modem*
#976 [23:28] <Olican101> im teathering with my phone
#977 [23:28] <Wug> it might also be your modem
#978 [23:28] <Olican101> no router page
#979 [23:28] <Wug> lol
#980 [23:28] <Olican101> at my college were not allowed phone lines so i use my phone ^^
#981 [23:28] <Wug> the lag isnt caused by hamachi, its the mobile phone tether
#982 [23:28] <Olican101> and i wanna play with my bf and his bro
#983 [23:28] <Olican101> nope...
#984 [23:28] <Olican101> ping to him is 150ms
#985 [23:28] <Olican101> through hamachi 850
#986 [23:29] <Cruple> I actually already figured out where i went wrong
#987 [23:29] <Wug> Olican101: uhh
#988 [23:29] <Wug> youre still better off having someone with a wired internet connection host it
#989 [23:29] <Olican101> his router blocks hamachi connections
#990 [23:29] <Wug> have him port forward properly and he wont need hamachi
#991 [23:29] <Olican101> well he dosnt know his router password =/
#992 [23:30] <Wug> have him ask a parent for iy
#993 [23:30] <Wug> it*
#994 [23:30] <Olican101> his dad wont let him have it
#995 [23:30] <Wug> can you get him to come here
#996 [23:30] <Olican101> so theres no way i can host a server without port forwarding?
#997 [23:30] <Olican101> and its 4.30 am here hes prolly asleep xDD
#998 [23:31] <Olican101> i can set websites up through an opera server
#999 [23:31] <Cruple> Nope
#1000 [23:31] <Cruple> there is no way
#1001 [23:31] <Cruple> unless you use hamachi
#1002 [23:31] <Cruple> or prot foward
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#1004 [23:31] <Wug> hamachi is a horrible hack
#1005 [23:31] <Olican101> damn
#1006 [23:31] <Cruple> Sorry
#1007 [23:31] <Wug> :hamachi
#1008 [23:31] <WugBot> hamachi: Hamachi is sofrware designed to emulate a local area network over the internet. It can be used in specific situations to allow software that only works over such a local network to work over the internet.
#1009 [23:31] <WugBot> hamachi: Minecraft Servers work fine over the internet without hamachi (if they're set up correctly). Hamachi does nothing that minecraft does not already do, except add extra complications.
#1010 [23:31] <Cruple> It's not a hack
#1011 [23:32] <Olican101> u would have thought a £20 game would come with an online mode past 1992
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#1013 [23:32] <Olican101> like anno 2070 or something... you search for the game name and it connects you to the host
#1014 [23:33] <Olican101> so how do i sort hamachi lag?
#1015 [23:33] <superkabii> what.
#1016 [23:33] <Cruple> There shouldnt be lag
#1017 [23:33] <Cruple> In no way should it cause lag
#1018 [23:33] <Cruple> It's jsut your computer
#1019 [23:33] <Cruple> Were sorry
#1020 [23:33] <Olican101> cos if we play other games we get no lag if i host but as soon as we go on hamachi i get ping "unable to reach destination" or something
#1021 [23:34] <Olican101> damn =/
#1022 [23:34] <superkabii> I haven't seen any completely dedicated server that doesn't require port opening.
#1023 [23:34] <Olican101> i have one
#1024 [23:34] <Olican101> well had
#1025 [23:34] <Cruple> That's because your computer cant handle hosting and playing at the same time
#1026 [23:34] <Olican101> its just it cant cope with the format mc is in
#1027 [23:34] <superkabii> Peer to peer is an exception...
#1028 [23:34] <Wug> superkabii: sort of kind of
#1029 [23:34] <Olican101> and i host Anno 2070 and thats about 10x more cpu and band
#1030 [23:34] <Wug> I'm not sure how p2p gets around firewalls
#1031 [23:35] <Olican101> no my server wasnt p2p
#1032 [23:35] <Olican101> i set it up in a weird way
#1033 [23:35] <Olican101> basically imagine drop box
#1034 [23:35] <Wug> Olican101: the problem is hamachi, and your mobile connection
#1035 [23:35] <Olican101> like that
#1036 [23:35] <superkabii> Wug, for simplicity I called it an exception
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#1038 [23:36] <superkabii> uh, isn't that one central server?
#1039 [23:36] <Olican101> my mobile connection is 300KBPS and 50ms ping... my parents wifi is 63KBPS and 200ping
#1040 [23:36] <Wug> you'd be much better off using a properly hosted server that didnt rely on hamachi
#1041 [23:36] <Olican101> that costs money
#1042 [23:37] <Olican101> england internet sux
#1043 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> you're not leaving many options available here
#1044 [23:37] <Olican101> ik xD
#1045 [23:37] <Olican101> can i port forward within windows
#1046 [23:37] <Olican101> ?
#1047 [23:37] <Wug> Olican101: no, its a router thing
#1048 [23:37] <Olican101> or do p2p?
#1049 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> no
#1050 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> nada
#1051 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Oh.. dear god.
#1052 [23:38] <superkabii> considering your router is blocking the inbound... no...
#1053 [23:38] <Wug> ^
#1054 [23:38] <superkabii> what.
#1055 [23:38] <Olican101> i dont have a router xD
#1056 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> Olican101: Sad though it is to say, I don't think that you can be helped.
#1057 [23:38] <Wug> Olican101: you could try just running a server and connecting to yourself
#1058 [23:38] <superkabii> :3
#1059 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Triple NAT setup for crumple
#1060 [23:38] <Olican101> yeah cant connect to myself with my external ip either
#1061 [23:38] <Wug> ;ip Olican101
#1062 [23:38] <WugBot> IP address of Olican101 is: 92.40.254.216
#1063 [23:39] <Olican101> i have the server running with that ip in the ip feild
#1064 [23:39] <Wug> Olican101: keep in mind that since youre using a mobile connection your external ip will change very frequently
#1065 [23:39] <Wug> and clear the server-ip line
#1066 [23:39] <Olican101> its a static ip
#1067 [23:39] <Olican101> dont fill in the ip line?
#1068 [23:39] <Olican101> kay 1 sec
#1069 [23:39] <Wug> .. a mobile phone with a static ip
#1070 [23:40] <Olican101> yeah
#1071 [23:40] <Olican101> its offered with 3
#1072 [23:40] <Olican101> the idea is it replaces your broadband
#1073 [23:40] <Wug> lol wow
#1074 [23:40] <Olican101> im doing it
#1075 [23:40] <Wug> ;check Olican101
#1076 [23:40] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 92.40.254.216.threembb.co.uk:25565 (Timed out)
#1077 [23:40] <Olican101> the idea is every1 carries their own wifi with them
#1078 [23:40] <Olican101> try pinging me
#1079 [23:41] <Wug> you sure your phone doesnt have port forward options
#1080 [23:41] <Olican101> yeah
#1081 [23:41] <Olican101> its android
#1082 [23:41] <Olican101> the teathers in the settings
#1083 [23:41] <superkabii> wait. why are you even trying to run a server off a phone connection... D:
#1084 [23:41] <Olican101> and if i type in the ip it just says no web page
#1085 [23:41] <Olican101> because my phone connection IS my inernet
#1086 [23:41] <Wug> Olican101: what are the other static ips
#1087 [23:42] <Olican101> huh?
#1088 [23:42] <Wug> ... never mind, it probably isnt going to work
#1089 [23:42] <Olican101> ok i cleared the server part in notepad and its saying failed
#1090 [23:43] <Wug> failed .. what
#1091 [23:43] <Olican101> any1 know a stretch server operator that would work with MC?
#1092 [23:44] <Olican101> i tried opera but it dosnt have an ip just a HTML so dosnt work
#1093 [23:45] <Olican101> yeah imma give up
#1094 [23:46] <Olican101> shame such a great game has such a huge flaw tho =[
#1095 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> Not Minecraft's fault you can't run a server off your phone
#1096 [23:46] <Olican101> its their fault they dont have a good online service tho
#1097 [23:47] <Olican101> like an in game p2p
#1098 [23:47] <Wug> you can connect to servers
#1099 [23:48] <Wug> which is what p2p is
#1100 [23:48] <Wug> you need to have someone else make a server
#1101 [23:48] <Wug> peer to peer is just connecting to things
#1102 [23:48] <Wug> you can connect to things, but you cant be connected to
#1103 [23:48] <Wug> you'd have issues with a peer to peer system too
#1104 [23:49] <Olican101> other p2p games work fine
#1105 [23:49] <Olican101> Anno 2070 has player 1 as host
#1106 [23:49] <Olican101> i can use utorrent fine
#1107 [23:49] <Olican101> thing is none of my ports are closed
#1108 [23:49] <Wug> utorrent connects outward, so does anno2070
#1109 [23:49] <Wug> the phone blocks them
#1110 [23:50] <Wug> whether you realize it or not
#1111 [23:50] <Wug> its denying all incoming connections
#1112 [23:50] <Olican101> if it denied all incoming connections i couldnt do things like torrents or ping
#1113 [23:50] <Olican101> i can ping and get pinged fine
#1114 [23:50] <Wug> pinging isnt a connection
#1115 [23:50] <Wug> ;ip Olican101
#1116 [23:50] <WugBot> IP address of Olican101 is: 92.40.254.216
#1117 [23:51] <Olican101> and also skype...
#1118 [23:51] <Wug> skype connects outward
#1119 [23:51] <Olican101> file transfers on skype is outwards and inwards
#1120 [23:51] <Wug> torrents connect outward
#1121 [23:51] <Wug> skype is mediated via a central server
#1122 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> Dear god. Public IP to 192.168.1.1 -> 192.168.2.1 -> 10.x.y.z -> server
#1123 [23:51] <Olican101> the central server is used 10% for skype
#1124 [23:52] <Olican101> 40% is other peoples
#1125 [23:52] <Olican101> 25% is who ur connected to and the other 25% is you
#1126 [23:52] <Wug> Olican101: no idea then
#1127 [23:52] <superkabii> I have no clue where you're pulling that from, but what.
#1128 [23:52] <Olican101> like when you send a file in skype and do ipconfig you see their ips
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#1130 [23:52] <Olican101> its on skypes website
#1131 [23:53] <Olican101> the only time skypes server is used is to log in
#1132 [23:53] <Olican101> like minecraft
#1133 [23:53] <Wug> I'd imagine it also shares the ips of other users
#1134 [23:53] <Olican101> log in, contacts and history
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#1136 [23:53] <Wug> otherwise the only way to broadcast that you were online to your contacts would be to broadcast to the entire internet
#1137 [23:54] <Olican101> thats why you cant message someone offline untill ur both online
#1138 [23:54] * Cruplezone bows down to GreyVulpine
#1138 [23:54] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1138 [23:54] <Cruplezone> Best member ever right here^
#1139 [23:54] <Wug> TheBadPingTimeoue
#1140 [23:54] <Wug> out*
#1141 [23:55] <Olican101> so is there not any way to set up a p2p server?
#1142 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#1143 [23:55] <Wug> Olican101: not with minecraft, no
#1144 [23:55] <Cruplezone> Sorry Olican
#1145 [23:55] <Wug> have your friend set it up
#1146 [23:55] <Olican101> the trouble is the .exe
#1147 [23:55] <Cruplezone> Your case is pretty much hopless
#1148 [23:55] <Olican101> i can host files using opera
#1149 [23:55] <Olican101> like dropbox but stored on my pc
#1150 [23:55] <Wug> Olican101: minecraft isnt opera
#1151 [23:56] <Wug> it is also not skype or utorrent
#1152 [23:56] <Cruplezone> It's different
#1153 [23:56] <Cruplezone> Exactly
#1154 [23:56] <Olican101> opera is a browser that can host servers
#1155 [23:56] <Olican101> ive hosted websites through it
#1156 [23:56] <Olican101> hang on ill show u
#1157 [23:56] <Wug> Olican101: you're not going to argue us into it working
#1158 [23:56] <Cruplezone> N-
#1159 [23:56] <Wug> so dont bother.
#1160 [23:57] * Cruplezone facepalms
#1160 [23:57] <Olican101> im not trying to
#1161 [23:57] <Olican101> ok can i set it up like this: http://laptop.olican101.operaunite.com/webserver/magic/22cd8dffbe68599d7b0761f291f504a0f1d095ce
#1162 [23:57] <Olican101> them files are from my desktop
#1163 [23:57] <Cruplezone> It's offline
#1164 [23:57] <Olican101> hmm
#1165 [23:58] <Cruplezone> But no
#1166 [23:58] <Cruplezone> File sharing is different
#1167 [23:58] <Cruplezone> Than minecraft server hosting
#1168 [23:58] <Olican101> damn =/
#1169 [23:58] <Olican101> cos u can host irc through this
#1170 [23:58] <Cruplezone> Mhmmm
#1171 [23:58] <Wug> connecting to irc and hosting irc are not the same thing
#1172 [23:59] <Olican101> i said host
#1173 [23:59] <Wug> incoming and outgoing connections do not work the same way
#1174 [23:59] <Olican101> i know how irc works i had a server
#1175 [23:59] <superkabii> You ran an ircd.
#1176 [23:59] <Wug> then your minecraft server or phone is configured wrongly
#1177 [23:59] <Cruplezone> Well then you should understand WHY THIS WOULDN"T WORK
#1178 [23:59] <Cruplezone> But maybe....
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#1180 [23:59] <Cruplezone> ...nah
#1181 [23:59] <Olican101> so theres no way me and my bf can play?
#1182 [23:59] <Cruplezone> never mind
#1183 [23:59] <Cruplezone> Sorry
#1184 [23:59] <Wug> Olican101: MAKE HIM GET A SERVER
#1185 [23:59] <Cruplezone> Just go onto a public server