#MinecraftHelp > 2012-05-02
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#4 [00:09] <Marshmont> I am looking for some recommendations of good minecraft servers. To me, that means.... low on griefing and Pvp... as well as not having a lot of profanity. I am trying to find a good server for my son to play on.
#5 [00:10] <shrekster> that is me
#6 [00:11] <Marshmont> just ran into a situation with a server owner that was very VERY inappropriate in his conversation. The players included him (adult), 20yo, 13yo, 10yo, 9yo and another adult.
#7 [00:11] <Dan> who uses arch on here?
#8 [00:11] <_EricReitz_> Finding a server with a small amount of profanity is probably going to prove to be difficult. :P
#9 [00:12] <_EricReitz_> I'd give you the IP to the one that I admin, but profanity isn't uncommon.
#10 [00:13] <Marshmont> Hmm.... the F word flying around once in a while may be ok... but that mention of specific sexual acts... uhhhh... not so much. he said that the internet is full of stuff and when HE was 13 he was looking at TONS of porn.
#11 [00:14] <Marshmont> when i gently reminded him of the players ages, he got defensive and said it was HIS server.... however, half were minors... really sad.
#12 [00:15] <_EricReitz_> The rules for this server that I speak of are quite blunt. :P
#13 [00:15] <_EricReitz_> One is "Don't be a ***head."
#14 [00:15] <Marshmont> good rule.
#15 [00:15] <_EricReitz_> Well, ****head. lol
#16 [00:16] <Marshmont> yea, i know what you meant
#17 [00:17] <Marshmont> I see a lot of that in the rules... it is a good rule. It is subject to the owner's interpretation... which can be a good thing.
#18 [00:18] <_EricReitz_> Marshmont: I PMed you info, in-case you didn't see it.
#19 [00:18] <Marshmont> AHHHH... haven't had a PM on here before... but i see it up in the tabs now. Thanks!!!
#20 [00:20] <shrekster> hi
#21 [00:20] <shrekster> ty
#22 [00:20] <shrekster> I realy want a sever BAD
#23 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> buy one then
#24 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/game-servers/mc-minecraft/
#25 [00:22] <_EricReitz_> lol
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#27 [00:27] <Dan> AHH Mibbit
#28 [00:32] <shrekster> srry I cant I dont have money
#29 [00:32] <Dan> im on linux so free stuff all the around
#30 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> You won't get a good server in return for no money
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#33 [00:47] <RS> HELP ME
#34 [00:47] <WugBot> RS: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#35 [00:47] <XO> What plugins are recommended?
#36 [00:47] <RS> I can't seems to get my mods to install properly
#37 [00:47] <RS> help
#38 [00:47] <RS> help me
#39 [00:47] <WugBot> RS: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
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#42 [00:55] <c1yd3i> Hi, I was wondering if I could have some help with Multiverse Portals? It doesnt seem to be working correctly. (Im not sure if you can help with 3rd party plugins)
#43 [00:56] <RS> yes
#44 [00:56] <c1yd3i> Great!
#45 [00:57] <c1yd3i> My Problem is it wont let me link to portals together.
#46 [00:57] <c1yd3i> Its like the Plugin just broke -_-
#47 [00:59] <c1yd3i> Nvm ill see u later -_-
#48 [01:00] <RS> ok
#49 [01:00] <RS> ok
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#53 [01:06] <King_Rat> help minecraft is too difficult
#54 [01:06] <King_Rat> help minecraft is too difficult
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#58 [01:15] <Lucke001> hi need help with permissionsbukkit or anything related to permissions
#59 [01:15] <Lucke001> ?¸
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#69 [02:23] <Lucke001> can someone check my permission gile for permissionsbukkit?
#70 [02:23] <Lucke001> file*
#71 [02:24] <puffrfish> use this Lucke001 http://wiki.ess3.net/yaml/
#72 [02:29] <Lucke001> thanks puffrfish!
#73 [02:29] <puffrfish> you're welcome
#74 [02:33] <Lucke001> my code seems correct....
#75 [02:35] <puffrfish> I don't do permissionsbukkit, sorry Lucke001
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#77 [02:36] <puffrfish> I just said no
#78 [02:36] <puffrfish> do not DCC me it
#79 [02:37] <Lucke001> ok soryr
#80 [02:42] <Lucke001> need help to check my codes on permissionbukkit please send tell
#81 [02:45] <Lucke001> ¸really.... need.... help.... with... my... world..... permissions.....
#82 [02:46] <Lucke001> maybe its my permissionsplugin 1.6 ?
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#84 [03:05] <melwil> hi, I have an ancient creative map that I'd like to rehost in 1.2.5. It's converted to anvil just fine, but I can't get it into the current creative format. Any pointers on this?
#85 [03:07] <GreyVulpine> Current creative format? Could you elaborate?
#86 [03:08] <melwil> well, there was no such thing as creative before, you'd have to use plugins to have unlimited blocks/flying etc. This map was started autumn of 2010 or something, and was played until spring 2011. When it was converted now, it ended up as a survival map.
#87 [03:09] <GreyVulpine> Is this for Single player or Multiplayer?
#88 [03:09] <melwil> multiplayer
#89 [03:09] <melwil> if I download the map and run it locally, it's a creative map
#90 [03:09] <melwil> but on the server, it's still survival
#91 [03:10] <GreyVulpine> On the server's console, put in: gamemode yourname 1
#92 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> gamemode yourname 1
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#94 [03:15] <SchoolFreak> I'm a school freak
#95 [03:15] <SchoolFreak> Your argument is invalid
#96 [03:16] <SchoolFreak> GreyVulpine: Hello
#97 [03:16] <SchoolFreak> Whats up?
#98 [03:18] <TheNoodle> ...
#99 [03:20] <melwil> can't get into the stupid screen.. I have to su to the user running minecraft from root.. can't login directly to the user -.-
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#102 [03:26] <melwil> GreyVulpine: could it work to just delete player records?
#103 [03:28] <TheNoodle> melwil, stop the server, set the gamemode to 1 in the server properties and delete all the player files.
#104 [03:28] <melwil> I mean, I have about 100 registered nicks on that server, cba to do this for all of em?
#105 [03:28] <melwil> alright, I'll try that then
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#108 [03:30] <melwil> that worked fine!
#109 [03:31] <melwil> I never considered the game mode could be set for players individually -.-
#110 [03:31] <melwil> seems to me like the server property should override the player-specific settings =P
#111 [03:34] <melwil> thanks for your help guys =)
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#130 [07:38] <Hawken> I started a SMP server and played some with my friends hosting through Hamachi, then used save-all and it said the server was saved. I then restarted my PC and used the minecraft_server.exe program and reconnected through the VPN and it loads a fresh map? How do I load the previous map that it saved with work on it?
#131 [07:38] <Hawken> Thanks in advance.
#132 [07:39] <sammaelt> i think if you didnt make a backup before reloading the server it may has been erased and overwritten
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#134 [07:41] <sammaelt> ello AmberK
#135 [07:41] <AmberK> allo
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#140 [09:07] <lilybet> siema
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#142 [09:22] <Wejq|irssi> elo
#143 [09:22] <Wejq|irssi> oh, sry
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#167 [11:22] <c1yd3i> Hi, can I please have some help with Multiverse Portals.....?
#168 [11:24] <Grim_Reaper> Umm o-o
#169 [11:24] <Grim_Reaper> Is that a.. mod?
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#172 [11:31] <c1yd3i> ??
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#174 [11:49] <Calinou> c1yd3i, we don't really help here with bukkit plugins
#175 [11:49] <Calinou> try #bukkit instead
#176 [11:49] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - It's a multi-world plugin, has a channel of each own from what I know. :)
#177 [11:50] <Morrolan> Yep, it has, I'm evein in it. ^^
#178 [11:50] <Morrolan> even*
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#180 [11:50] <Morrolan> of its own*
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#182 [11:50] <c1yd3i> oh ok
#183 [11:51] <c1yd3i> Oh lOL
#184 [11:51] <c1yd3i> Whats the channel name/
#185 [11:51] <c1yd3i> ?
#186 [11:52] <Morrolan> #multiverse
#187 [11:52] <Morrolan> Who'd have guessed. :)
#188 [11:52] <c1yd3i> K
#189 [11:52] <c1yd3i> LOL
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#205 [13:06] <dsdf> any one else have problems loging in to servers now? :p
#206 [13:13] <Nipper> yeah login servers are down.
#207 [13:14] <Nipper> might be working on them as they said they were while ago to fix a few issues.
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#209 [13:15] <Pate> Is there a problem with the minecraft.net server? (Authentication Server)
#210 [13:15] <Nipper> yes
#211 [13:15] <dsdf> i wish they would warn us first.. putting a massage at the lunch screen or something
#212 [13:15] <Pate> thanks for the information
#213 [13:15] <Nipper> lol would be nice but you never know with them.
#214 [13:15] <Nipper> lol would be nice but you never know with them.
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#216 [13:15] <Calinou> lunch, lol
#217 [13:15] <Calinou> GreyVulpine, change topic - login servers are down
#218 [13:16] <Calinou> and make some bot that yells at users when they complain about login servers. :>
#219 [13:16] <Nipper> lol
#220 [13:16] <Nipper> I have like 40 messages coming in from my users yelling at me for the servers.
#221 [13:17] <Nipper> kind of funny.
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#223 [13:19] <Nipper> aphax ipv6 Never seen a isp hand out those.
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#225 [13:19] <xarcus> i need help
#226 [13:19] <dsdf> login servers are down
#227 [13:19] <Calinou> yes? don't ask to ask
#228 [13:19] <Nipper> lol
#229 [13:19] <aphax> yeah for a long time I used a tunnel, then I took part in a pilot, and now they finally rolled it out for real
#230 [13:19] <Calinou> the login servers are down
#231 [13:19] <Calinou> known issue
#232 [13:20] <Nipper> aphax only thing bad is older lan/ip games don't support it.
#233 [13:20] <xarcus> so is alot of ppl cant go into there servers
#234 [13:20] <dsdf> their*
#235 [13:20] <aphax> Nipper, I've not had a lot of difficulty with it, except for the (very) occasional website that has broken ipv6 connectivity (but still has an AAAA record etc)
#236 [13:21] <aphax> but I think browsers are a bit smarter about that now, falling back to ipv4 when they detect problems
#237 [13:21] <Nipper> only broken due to out dated software.
#238 [13:21] <Nipper> I still don't want to switch for a few more years when every thing moves over to it.
#239 [13:21] <aphax> I don't blame ya
#240 [13:22] <Nipper> One thing I hate. It is hard to remember the ips. It be comes a real pain to many numbers/letters.
#241 [13:22] <xarcus> so can anyone tell me when can i get on my servers again
#242 [13:22] <Nipper> xarcus no offical word yet.
#243 [13:22] <Nipper> Other then a few weeks ago they will be working on them to fix a few things.
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#245 [13:23] <Calinou> <EvilSeph> Auth servers are being worked on, that's why they're down
#246 [13:23] <Calinou> @ #bukkit
#247 [13:23] <Calinou> they didn't crash. intended maintenance
#248 [13:23] <aphax> yeah I wish I could flip a switch on my server to just let me log in, sucks being locked out of your own server QQ
#249 [13:23] <aphax> oh
#250 [13:23] <xarcus> ok cause it was weird cause i on them a few sec ago and then boom cant get on
#251 [13:23] <Calinou> aphax, offline mode then log in?
#252 [13:23] <Nipper> http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/478-mojang-quake-match-going-on-now-logins-better-than-ever/
#253 [13:23] <Calinou> put whitelist on, only whitelist "Player" then op "Player"
#254 [13:23] <aphax> I guess I need to read my twitter feed more often
#255 [13:23] <aphax> hmm
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#257 [13:26] <dsdf> who is incharge of the login servers of minecraft? (so i can read his twitter)
#258 [13:26] <Calinou> mollstam
#259 [13:26] <Calinou> (highlight for great justice)
#260 [13:27] * clarjon1 highlights Calinou for great justice
#260 [13:27] <xarcus> so wat are they fixing on it
#261 [13:27] <Calinou> maintenance, not a crash. duno
#262 [13:27] <Calinou> they said they're "updating" it somehow
#263 [13:27] <Kjakz0r> Is this the reason i cant login to my own server?
#264 [13:27] <clarjon1> most likely
#265 [13:28] <Kjakz0r> Not to spam the chat but here is what I get:
#266 [13:28] <Kjakz0r> Hello, question: Internal client error: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 500 for URL: http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Kjakz0r&sessionID=-(lots of numbers)&serverID=(lots of number and small letters like b, d, e, etc.)
#267 [13:28] <Calinou> they seem to be up now
#268 [13:28] <clarjon1> however, i see people logging into my server.
#269 [13:28] <Calinou> they are UP now!!
#270 [13:28] <clarjon1> oh
#271 [13:28] <clarjon1> Kjakz0r: You're playing classic
#272 [13:28] <Kjakz0r> Say what?
#273 [13:28] <Calinou> Kjakz0r, restart minecraft
#274 [13:28] <Calinou> clarjon1, this can happen in the full game
#275 [13:28] <clarjon1> ah
#276 [13:28] <xarcus> thats awsome
#277 [13:28] <Kjakz0r> Ive restarted minecraft, and server.
#278 [13:28] <aphax> looks like I can login again
#279 [13:28] <clarjon1> Kjakz0r: try again now :P
#280 [13:29] <dsdf> Login servers Are Down, We need to wait for mojang to fix it
#281 [13:29] <xarcus> calinou and nipper thanks yall were bigg help
#282 [13:29] <dsdf> oh nvm :p
#283 [13:30] <Kjakz0r> Calinou: My minecraft froze...but it seems like im in now.
#284 [13:30] <Kjakz0r> Whatever you did, thank you
#285 [13:30] <Kjakz0r> Lol
#286 [13:33] <Calinou> np
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#292 [14:04] <The_Salesman> am i here?
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#295 [14:08] <The_Salesman> ok good that other MC wouldn't let me talk 'cannot send to channel' anyway i know its not what you deal with here. just checking to see if another channel would allow me to talk.
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#297 [14:14] <mindofbeholder> I've got some bukkit server issues
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#299 [14:15] <mindofbeholder> For some reason fire won't spread on my server or even burn things down. Also, creeper explosions do no damage to the blocks around it
#300 [14:15] <mindofbeholder> I'm running the latest recommended build of bukkit
#301 [14:16] <mindofbeholder> I have the essentials plugin & PreciousStones plugin
#302 [14:16] <mindofbeholder> I have worledit but it's currently disabled
#303 [14:16] <mindofbeholder> *wordledit
#304 [14:16] <mindofbeholder> *worldedit
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#306 [14:22] <fiesta_tzet> I have a problem with my client login
#307 [14:22] <fiesta_tzet> I have a problem with my client login
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#309 [14:22] <fiesta_tzet> i tried everything mojang says
#310 [14:23] <fiesta_tzet> can someone help
#311 [14:23] <fiesta_tzet> can someone help
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#314 [14:24] <sathees> hi
#315 [14:25] <sathees> I need help with port mapping
#316 [14:25] <sathees> please help
#317 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> Managed to log onto your Router?
#318 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> I bet a Bot command get's this rolling quite quick, let me try and fail miserably.
#319 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> !nat
#320 [14:26] <sathees> I need know a website where i can get information for it
#321 [14:26] <NinjaKirby> !networkaddressbananalation
#322 [14:27] <sathees> is that it?
#323 [14:27] <sathees> Oi
#324 [14:27] <NinjaKirby> Aye, Port Forwarding or Network Address Translation (NAT) is that Router tab you need
#325 [14:28] <NinjaKirby> Usually 192.168.1.1/192.168.0.1 into your Browser bar to gain access.
#326 [14:29] <sathees> yes i know that
#327 [14:29] <NinjaKirby> Marvellous.
#328 [14:30] <sathees> I need the website which has detail of port mapping
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#330 [14:31] <NinjaKirby> I just google'd NAT, and found an Organisation that uses an Acronym within an Acronym. My worst fears are coming true.
#331 [14:32] <NinjaKirby> Someone who can control the Bot here, when they come alive, can probably get it to point you towards NAT stuff.
#332 [14:32] <NinjaKirby> Or you can leave, and Google it.
#333 [14:33] <NinjaKirby> I'd love to know what kind of Detail he was after. I can't imagine the problem if he could even get that far -_-
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#335 [14:35] <The_Salesman> say can you have 2 avatars linked to one account? the answer is probabbly on the website but i already registered my nick and im here now. so..
#336 [14:38] <The_Salesman> the later part was ment as a joke if i am being ignored.
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#338 [14:40] <Randre> Is there any way I can deactivate a purchase? If so how?
#339 [14:42] <The_Salesman> you want your money back? or deactivate the minecraft account?
#340 [14:43] <Randre> I didnt actually put in my credit card number, just wanted to check it out and I got an email saying i owe 13.95
#341 [14:43] <Randre> Is there a way to stop the order?
#342 [14:45] <The_Salesman> the is pounds right not usd
#343 [14:46] <Randre> No its USD
#344 [14:46] <Randre> Will the server deactivate itself if i dont not give it my credit card number
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#346 [14:47] <The_Salesman> im not to sure what you were trying out
#347 [14:48] <Randre> I tried out a Minecraft-Cow, and I got an email saying I owe $13.95 USD
#348 [14:49] <Randre> But i didnt insert a credit card number, so will i be able to deactivate my purchase before it processes completely?
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#350 [14:50] <Randre> Isnt this the beastnode help chat?
#351 [14:50] <Scott> No...
#352 [14:50] <Scott> This is a Minecraft help chanel.
#353 [14:50] <Scott> channel, not Chanel.
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#355 [14:51] <Randre> Oh, just regular minecraft help.... do you happen to no the beastnode help channel?
#356 [14:51] <Scott> I work for another hosting provider so no I don't.
#357 [14:51] <Randre> What hosting provider?
#358 [14:51] <The_Salesman> ya ok its making sense now
#359 [14:51] <Scott> AllGamer, LLC
#360 [14:51] <Randre> what are there typical price ranges, for there cheapest hosting
#361 [14:52] <Scott> https://allgamer.net/ :P
#362 [14:52] <Randre> :P Ok thank you
#363 [14:52] <Scott> I can give you a 15% discount too. :>
#364 [14:52] <Randre> Rlly
#365 [14:52] <Randre> Well I dont plan on purchasing right away
#366 [14:53] <Randre> Just scoping out and finding the best and cheapest deal
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#368 [14:53] <Scott> Cheapest isn't always best.
#369 [14:53] <Scott> In fact, I'd say it's never best. :P
#370 [14:53] <Randre> Yes, I should say the cheapest hosting that offers the most for its price range :P
#371 [14:54] <Randre> Im looking for an offordable 15 USD Monthly
#372 [14:54] <Scott> How many slots are you looking for anyways?
#373 [14:55] <Randre> At least 20
#374 [14:55] <Scott> That's not happening.
#375 [14:55] <Randre> Yeah
#376 [14:55] <Scott> You would probably need 1-2GB of RAM for 20 slots depending on various factors.
#377 [14:56] <Scott> You won't get that for $15.
#378 [14:56] <Randre> Figured, did find one good deal with great offers, but lost the site :/
#379 [14:56] <Scott> If anyone is offering that for $15, I would stay far far away.
#380 [14:57] <Randre> Ha, probably, with a 15% discount how much would a 24/7 20 slot minecraft server usually cost?
#381 [14:58] <Scott> $38.2415 for 1.5GB
#382 [14:58] <Randre> Monthly?
#383 [14:59] <Scott> Yes
#384 [14:59] <Randre> That actually doesnt seem like a bad deal
#385 [14:59] <Scott> It isn't. :P
#386 [14:59] <Randre> What sort of things does it offer?
#387 [15:00] <Scott> It comes with McMyAdmin which is the leading control panel.
#388 [15:00] <Randre> Nice, is there anyway i could test out the control panel?
#389 [15:00] <Scott> And full access to everything so nothing is restricted.
#390 [15:01] <Scott> http://play.phonicuk.com:8090/
#391 [15:01] <The_Salesman> if you didn't enter any CC info then i would find it hard to charge you. watch your account activity. also did you end your try out before the end of the trial period, if there was one?
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#393 [15:01] <Randre> Wow, ty and Sales, I honestly have no idea what you just said
#394 [15:02] <Randre> I will think about it, ty for your support
#395 [15:02] <The_Salesman> you were worried about getting charged 13.95?
#396 [15:03] <Randre> The thing is Sales I dont think I will get charged, because i never inputed a credit card number, I just dont want my email getting spammed by it :P
#397 [15:04] <The_Salesman> ah i see. ya that would be no fun
#398 [15:04] <Randre> Alright well thank you both for your support
#399 [15:04] <Randre> Alright well thank you both for your support
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#404 [15:41] <NinjaKirby> Jesus christ, Firefox is on v12 now? Whoever developed that milestone timeline at Mozilla designed it wrong. I mean, WHAT.
#405 [15:44] <NinjaKirby> Okay I take that back, Chrome is already on v19, that's even more ridiculous. It really is just another Version Battle isn't it.
#406 [15:44] <NinjaKirby> I know it's happened in the past anyway, seems a fair assumption -_-
#407 [15:45] <Syfaro> I use Firefox v14
#408 [15:46] <NinjaKirby> I noticed the Beta option, I presume that is that... it's stable? And is it any different from the other double digit version numbers.
#409 [15:48] <NinjaKirby> I guess it's not stable, sticking to 12, "god forbid".
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#411 [15:49] <DJSyther> My MC crashed. http://pastebin.com/keY9RvNb
#412 [15:51] <sugoi> DJSyther: looks like your graphics driver doesn't support opengl
#413 [15:52] <sugoi> consider getting a graphics driver directly from your gpu manufacturer
#414 [15:52] <DJSyther> I swear I've been playing this for 2 years. And the only thing different was that I downloaded MCEdit, and tried using it.
#415 [15:52] <DJSyther> I never had this problem in my 2 years of minecraft.
#416 [15:52] <DJSyther> And I have always had Advanced OpenGL on.
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#418 [15:54] <sugoi> DJSyther: 2 years of minecraft, eh? :)
#419 [15:54] <DJSyther> I'm devoted to MC
#420 [15:54] <DJSyther> I've had this since BETA 1.4
#421 [15:55] <sugoi> well i'm not wrong, it is lacking support for opengl
#422 [15:55] <sugoi> so something changed
#423 [15:55] <DJSyther> One thing different was I tried using MCEdit for the first time today, and MCEdit wouldn't work. So I'm thinking MCEdit messed up my OpenGL
#424 [15:56] <sugoi> DJSyther: unless you installed some viruses (fake mcedit) that specifically targeted your gpu driver (would requier admin privs) -- that's not going to happen
#425 [15:56] <sugoi> i recommend reinstalling your gpu driver, directly from the manufacturer
#426 [15:57] <sugoi> uninstall the current one, reinstall a new one
#427 [15:57] <DJSyther> I downloaded it from this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/13807-mcedit-minecraft-world-editor-now-open-source/
#428 [15:57] <sugoi> that's a good link --
#429 [15:57] <sugoi> that doesn't change the point that opengl support is missing during your minecraft runtime
#430 [15:58] <DJSyther> But I never did nothing except for install MCEdit.
#431 [15:58] <sugoi> DJSyther: i feel like you want me to say something different
#432 [15:58] <sugoi> what would you like me to say? :)
#433 [15:58] <DJSyther> I don't.
#434 [15:58] <DJSyther> I just don't understand.
#435 [15:58] <DJSyther> Could MCEdit crashing cause OpenGL errors?
#436 [15:59] <DJSyther> Because MCEdit wouldn't load graphics.
#437 [15:59] <sugoi> you can also check your gpu properties, i, for example, tell my nvidia card to use hardward always, and not let the application decide (this only improved perf)
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#439 [15:59] <sugoi> mcedit could crash, could have misused opengl, yes -- but that has no change to your driver
#440 [15:59] <sugoi> it would only crash mcedit
#441 [16:00] <DJSyther> I have NVIDIA Control Panel opened.
#442 [16:00] <DJSyther> What should I use
#443 [16:00] <DJSyther> 1. Let the 3d App decide.
#444 [16:00] <DJSyther> 2. Use advanced 3d image settings.
#445 [16:01] <DJSyther> 3. Use my preference emphasizing: _____
#446 [16:02] <DJSyther> BTW, I play MC on lowest GFX possible (in-game settings)
#447 [16:04] <sugoi> sorry, was afk - that has slightly different wording (could be a version thing - no bgie) i would use #2
#448 [16:05] <DJSyther> It wasn't different wording, just laziness of typing :P
#449 [16:05] <DJSyther> But I set it to that.
#450 [16:05] <DJSyther> Should I try it?
#451 [16:05] <sugoi> sure - won't hurt
#452 [16:05] <sugoi> tho, reinstalling your gpu driver still sounds like the best option :)
#453 [16:06] <DJSyther> I'll try that if this doesn't work.
#454 [16:06] <sugoi> directly from nvidia, not a laptor vendor (for example)
#455 [16:06] <DJSyther> So redownload the latest NVIDIA driver?
#456 [16:07] <sugoi> yep
#457 [16:07] <DJSyther> I take it that I shouldn't use MCEdit now...
#458 [16:07] <DJSyther> But thats alright :)
#459 [16:08] <sugoi> mcedit has no affect on this
#460 [16:08] <sugoi> many of us here use it in fact
#461 [16:08] <DJSyther> What could be possible causes?
#462 [16:08] <DJSyther> I was playing this yesterday just fine.
#463 [16:08] <sugoi> perhaps a windows update that gave you a new nvidia driver
#464 [16:09] <DJSyther> I haven't had updates since a few days ago.
#465 [16:09] <sugoi> iirc, window's drivers don't have opengl support
#466 [16:09] <DJSyther> But I usually have to manually update NVIDIA drivers.
#467 [16:10] <sugoi> i could be confused, it might be vendor's that don't have that
#468 [16:10] <sugoi> something about lincensing
#469 [16:10] <sugoi> i don't recall, but ppl in this channel always recommend drivers from the manufacturer
#470 [16:10] <DJSyther> I have an eMachines, so I don't really know.
#471 [16:11] <DJSyther> Can GPU drivers corrupt (file-wise)?
#472 [16:12] <sugoi> it's possible, if the harddrive is going bad
#473 [16:12] <sugoi> otherwise, that is HIGHLY unlikely, that would be a bug in the kernel, writing over the driver
#474 [16:12] <sugoi> that just doesn't happen
#475 [16:13] <DJSyther> I'm downloading the driver now.
#476 [16:13] <DJSyther> NVIDIA made me accidentally download the wrong driver first.
#477 [16:13] <DJSyther> LO
#478 [16:13] <DJSyther> :P
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#480 [16:15] <sugoi> heh
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#482 [16:16] <DJSyther> Thanks for helping also. I really have no idea what's going on.
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#484 [16:16] <bji> why does my computer lag insane when i run MCserver? It started some hours ago. Was fine before that. (8*3,6ghz amd, 8gb ram)
#485 [16:16] <DJSyther> bji: 64 bit or 32 bit?
#486 [16:17] <bji> 64 bit windows
#487 [16:17] <bji> had 32 bit java first. Now i installed the 64 bit
#488 [16:17] <DJSyther> Do you use the CMD command for allocating more RAM?
#489 [16:18] <DJSyther> +sugoi: I'm going to try it, its done installing.
#490 [16:18] <bji> no i dont, which one is that?
#491 [16:18] <DJSyther> One minute for the link bji
#492 [16:19] <sugoi> bji: -- i wonder if mc is still using java 32
#493 [16:19] <sugoi> bji: windows?
#494 [16:19] <DJSyther> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\javaw.exe" -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar "Minecraft_Server.exe"
#495 [16:19] <DJSyther> @bji
#496 [16:19] <DJSyther> Sugoi I'm going to try MC now.
#497 [16:19] <DJSyther> Yay!
#498 [16:20] <DJSyther> It works
#499 [16:20] <sugoi> woot!
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#501 [16:20] <sugoi> bji: windows? if so, go to control panel, open the link called "java"
#502 [16:20] <DJSyther> Thanks
#503 [16:20] <bji> yes windows
#504 [16:20] <DJSyther> Now to install my mods.
#505 [16:20] <MarcgX> Hello guys
#506 [16:20] <DJSyther> Hello MarcgX
#507 [16:21] <MarcgX> Hi DJSyther i am new here.
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#509 [16:21] <DJSyther> To the IRC or to MC?
#510 [16:21] <MarcgX> I play minecraft etc.. play on a server etc.. :P but not irc
#511 [16:21] <DJSyther> Well then welcome to the MC Help channel!
#512 [16:22] <MarcgX> IRC
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#514 [16:22] <DJSyther> I just got my MC to work thanks to +sugoi.
#515 [16:22] <DJSyther> BTW Sugoi, thanks again.
#516 [16:22] <MarcgX> sugoi: Do you think irc will ever be connected with minecraft?
#517 [16:23] <DJSyther> There's a bukkit server mod that has IRC capabilities.
#518 [16:23] <sugoi> DJSyther: :)
#519 [16:23] <sugoi> MarcgX: connected? like from in-game?
#520 [16:23] <sugoi> bji: open 'java' in your control panel
#521 [16:23] <bji> i have done that
#522 [16:23] <sugoi> how many java's do you have listed?
#523 [16:23] <MarcgX> sugoi: Indeed. Well its not my server but its someone else's. I am admin there etc.
#524 [16:24] <MarcgX> sugoi: but i mean like the global chat on the server would be visible on irc
#525 [16:24] <DJSyther> Thats what the IRC plugin is for.
#526 [16:24] <sugoi> MarcgX: ^
#527 [16:24] <DJSyther> MarcgX: I think its vice-versa.
#528 [16:24] <DJSyther> MC chat goes to IRC, IRC chat goes to MC.
#529 [16:24] <MarcgX> sugoi: And like you can use the commands on irc like /kick and then in game on mine craft they would get kicked
#530 [16:24] <bji> I don't think i understand you really, theres no list at all just a window :)
#531 [16:25] <MarcgX> You get what I'm saying
#532 [16:25] <MarcgX> DJSyther: Yes thats what i mean :)
#533 [16:25] <sugoi> bji: i'll make a screen shot
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#535 [16:25] <DJSyther> MarcgX: I don't think you can use IRC commands with MC, even with the plugin.
#536 [16:25] <sugoi> bji: ah sorry, skipped some steps, click on the "java" tab in that window, then click the "view" button
#537 [16:25] <MarcgX> DJSyther: How do you get that and is it possible to use commands on irc and it would go to mien craft server
#538 [16:26] <bji> ahh well theres one there :)
#539 [16:26] <DJSyther> I don't think commands can be used like the vice versa.
#540 [16:26] <MarcgX> sugoi: do you work for notch or like mine craft :P?
#541 [16:26] <DJSyther> The server could get confused.
#542 [16:26] <sugoi> MarcgX: nay, i work for autodesk
#543 [16:26] <sugoi> this chatroom is just volunteers
#544 [16:26] <MarcgX> sugoi: Whats autodesk and u are blue on irc. thats good :P
#545 [16:26] <sugoi> some of us that have the "+" in front of our names are just identified as trustworthy
#546 [16:27] <sugoi> tho, i don't know how i got it
#547 [16:27] <sugoi> :P
#548 [16:27] <DJSyther> Like if you tried to kick n00b from the irc, you would type /kick n00b, but instead of kicking him from IRC, it would kick him from the MC server.
#549 [16:27] <MarcgX> there isn't a lot of u
#550 [16:27] <MarcgX> DJSyther: Thats way i mean. Generally i mean that. The mine craft in game server chat would be visible on irc
#551 [16:28] <MarcgX> and u would be able to use the commands on irc and it would go to minecraft
#552 [16:28] <DJSyther> Yeah regular chat would work to and from IRC.
#553 [16:28] <MarcgX> But not the commands
#554 [16:28] <sugoi> bji: so only one listed?
#555 [16:28] <MarcgX> well what is the plugin, where do i go?
#556 [16:29] <DJSyther> That could be a possibility, but I don't know if thats possible with the plugin, you would most likely have to install something for the IRC itself, not the MC server.
#557 [16:29] <bji> yep, only one
#558 [16:29] <sugoi> MarcgX: "blue" is that a feature of your irc client?
#559 [16:29] <MarcgX> okay DJSyther
#560 [16:29] <MarcgX> sugoi: Yes i use colloquy
#561 [16:29] <DJSyther> I have IceChat and your name is a dark turqoise.
#562 [16:29] <MarcgX> so whats the plugin to see the mine craft chat on irc?
#563 [16:29] <sugoi> MarcgX: autodesk: http://usa.autodesk.com/
#564 [16:30] <DJSyther> Its actually IRC chat on minecraft.
#565 [16:30] <DJSyther> go to dev.bukkit.org
#566 [16:30] <DJSyther> click plugins
#567 [16:30] <DJSyther> search IRC
#568 [16:30] <MarcgX> yea.
#569 [16:30] <DJSyther> What is your job at Autodesk, Sugoi?
#570 [16:30] <MarcgX> DJSyther: So the mine craft in game chat would be visible on an irc client?
#571 [16:30] <sugoi> software engineer
#572 [16:31] <DJSyther> MarcgX: I don't know exactly.
#573 [16:31] <DJSyther> I never used it
#574 [16:31] <sugoi> MarcgX: i also (like DJSyther) have only heard of the plugin, don't know how it works exactly (like configuring it) nor how to use it
#575 [16:31] <DJSyther> Sugoi: I got Autodesk Sketchbook Express free with my wacom tablet, its a great program!
#576 [16:31] <MarcgX> hmm i am going to tell the server owner about that. ill see if he can try to install it on his server
#577 [16:31] <sugoi> MarcgX: do some searching for it, as suggested, they probably have their own dev page on bukkit, with some howto's and what not
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#579 [16:32] <DJSyther> Configuration may take some time though.
#580 [16:32] <sugoi> DJSyther: it's exciting how much interest that is getting
#581 [16:32] <MarcgX> sugoi: Thx sugoi, you helped a lot!
#582 [16:32] <sugoi> i work on inventor
#583 [16:32] <DJSyther> Especially with IRC connections the most (I think).
#584 [16:32] <MarcgX> DJSyther: You too! :)
#585 [16:32] <sugoi> MarcgX: no prob :)
#586 [16:32] <bji> soo.. what to do? :o
#587 [16:32] <DJSyther> You're welcome.
#588 [16:32] <sugoi> bji: sorry :)
#589 [16:32] <sugoi> bji: one is listed, ok, can you open a cmd window?
#590 [16:33] <bji> no worries, im just happy i get help :)
#591 [16:33] <bji> yep
#592 [16:33] <sugoi> in that, run `java -version`
#593 [16:33] <bji> and then? :)
#594 [16:33] <sugoi> do you get something like "Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM ..."
#595 [16:34] <bji> yes
#596 [16:34] <sugoi> bji: ok, to be sure, does it say "64-Bit" ?
#597 [16:34] <bji> Yes :)
#598 [16:35] <sugoi> ok, and you were saying your pc gets super slow when mc is running
#599 [16:35] <sugoi> right?
#600 [16:35] <sugoi> and you have lots of ram
#601 [16:35] <bji> yep
#602 [16:36] <sugoi> DJSyther did offer a command line option which would increase the ram use, but let's not use that just yet (it might be hiding the problem, not fixing it really)
#603 [16:36] <DJSyther> PS, I have only 4gb of ram, it works decent for me.
#604 [16:36] <bji> didnt see his link really, just that he was going to send one
#605 [16:36] <sugoi> bji: so, does it happen when you run single player?
#606 [16:36] <DJSyther> I sent the command.
#607 [16:36] <sugoi> bji: we can repaste it later, no worries
#608 [16:36] <DJSyther> I will repaste it later then. :P
#609 [16:37] <bji> okey, well sry i missed it. Singleplayer works fine
#610 [16:37] <sugoi> bji: are the game updates delayed? or the grahpics have very poor framerate?
#611 [16:38] <bji> Well, when i or others try to enter the server we get stuck on loading world..
#612 [16:38] <bji> or terrain maybe..
#613 [16:39] <bji> dont know the exact word.
#614 [16:39] <DJSyther> Now we get a different subject.
#615 [16:39] <sugoi> any mods?
#616 [16:39] <sugoi> DJSyther: it happens a lot :)
#617 [16:39] <DJSyther> He may mean that players can't connect.
#618 [16:39] <bji> No mods.
#619 [16:39] <DJSyther> Maybe due to a false port-forward.
#620 [16:39] <bji> Well players can connect
#621 [16:39] <DJSyther> Oh.
#622 [16:39] <DJSyther> NVM.
#623 [16:39] <bji> And im CCNA certificated so im sure about port forwarding ;)
#624 [16:40] <DJSyther> Just checking.
#625 [16:40] <sugoi> <img src="badass-in-here.jpg" />
#626 [16:40] <DJSyther> XD
#627 [16:40] <DJSyther> Nice timing sugoi.
#628 [16:40] <bji> lol
#629 [16:40] * sugoi lurks reddit too often
#629 [16:40] <DJSyther> DJSyther agrees.
#630 [16:40] <DJSyther> :P
#631 [16:40] <sugoi> bji: has this world (or server) worked before?
#632 [16:41] <bji> Yes, we have played alot on this server
#633 [16:41] <sugoi> interesting -- anything you think that has changed?
#634 [16:43] <bji> Thats the thing, nothing have changed. It worked fine earlier today and i placed a few cobblestone blocks without error and now it lags so much i mostly get read timed out errors.
#635 [16:44] <sugoi> wow, ok back
#636 [16:44] <bji> Now i started up the server again and it even lags when i move the window around without minecraft client open at all.
#637 [16:44] <sugoi> i uh....just spilled about 1/2 liter of water on my desk
#638 [16:44] <sugoi> had to wipe it up
#639 [16:44] <sugoi> bji: no mods on the serve?!
#640 [16:45] <bji> You too? I got my nickname from that :P
#641 [16:45] <sugoi> server*
#642 [16:45] <bji> No, no mods.
#643 [16:45] <Wug> Bji: i normally dont give wishy washy advice like 'try restarting'
#644 [16:45] <Wug> But try restarting
#645 [16:45] <bji> The computer? Already tried.
#646 [16:46] <Wug> Might be world corruption then
#647 [16:46] <bji> Okey, any way to fix that?
#648 [16:46] <DJSyther> New world.
#649 [16:46] <bji> :|
#650 [16:46] * sugoi faceplams
#650 [16:47] <sugoi> yeah, currupted world could do that
#651 [16:47] <sugoi> bji: you can open your world in mcedit, resave it, and it has been known to fix it
#652 [16:47] <sugoi> but
#653 [16:47] <sugoi> first, just make an empty world (new one)
#654 [16:47] <sugoi> and prove that everything works as it should
#655 [16:47] <sugoi> [also, make backups often]
#656 [16:48] <sugoi> [esp before mcedit stuff]
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#658 [16:48] <sugoi> well, not "especially" .. i've never had problems with mcedit, but backups are never bad
#659 [16:48] <bji> Tried a new world file. Works fine.
#660 [16:49] <bji> Where do i get MCedit?
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#662 [16:49] <sugoi> what server version are you using?
#663 [16:50] <sugoi> 1.2.5?
#664 [16:50] <bji> Latest i guess, tried to redownload it an hour ago
#665 [16:50] <bji> Still lagged tho :P
#666 [16:51] <sugoi> here is his github repo for mcedit
#667 [16:52] <sugoi> he says the builds are unstable now, he has stopped working on it apparently (someone new is picking it up)
#668 [16:52] <sugoi> so, like i said, make backups first
#669 [16:52] <bji> okey
#670 [16:52] <sugoi> but it has been a great tool for many, it's worth a try
#671 [16:52] <sugoi> https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#672 [16:54] <DJSyther> My MCEdit now works as well.
#673 [16:56] <bji> well, thanks for the help guys! cya around :)
#674 [16:58] <DJSyther> Sugoi: How to zoom out in MCEdit?
#675 [17:00] <sugoi> DJSyther: been a while since i've used it, but i think you just look down, then move backwards
#676 [17:01] <DJSyther> Thanks
#677 [17:01] <sugoi> you can also lock your z-plane movement (height) and move like you would in-game
#678 [17:01] <DJSyther> MCEdit is apparently made in pygame.
#679 [17:01] <DJSyther> Didn't think such an advanced program made in such a simple engine.
#680 [17:02] <DJSyther> So hows it going? :P
#681 [17:03] <sugoi> my 64bit build just failed, reading the output
#682 [17:03] <DJSyther> Java?
#683 [17:03] <DJSyther> Or other coding.
#684 [17:03] <sugoi> java, bleh!
#685 [17:03] <sugoi> heh
#686 [17:03] <sugoi> c++
#687 [17:04] * sugoi apologizes to VoxelHead
#687 [17:04] <DJSyther> :P
#688 [17:04] <DJSyther> AFK for a minute.
#689 [17:06] <DJSyther> Back
#690 [17:06] <DJSyther> What exactly are you doing, Sugoi?
#691 [17:08] <DJSyther> Also how did you learn coding.
#692 [17:08] <DJSyther> I only know VB.NET.
#693 [17:08] <DJSyther> I'm learning :P
#694 [17:09] <DJSyther> BRB for 5 minutes, I'm going to get off the PC and go on the android tablet, hope to find a IRC client.
#695 [17:09] <DJSyther> If I don't get back, then I cannot find one.
#696 [17:09] <DJSyther> Good day until I find an IRC client.
#697 [17:16] <NinjaKirby> >Good day *until* I find an IRC client.
#698 [17:16] <NinjaKirby> At which time, you will then make his day a living hell.
#699 [17:20] <Dan> should i run minecraft_server.jar as root or user
#700 [17:22] <clarjon1> user
#701 [17:22] <clarjon1> never run any server as root
#702 [17:22] <clarjon1> ever.
#703 [17:23] <sugoi> NinjaKirby: haha
#704 [17:23] <sugoi> :)
#705 [17:24] <sugoi> except when you're drinking dew
#706 [17:24] <sugoi> always drink dew as root
#707 [17:28] <Boreeas> Run it as root. Also, don't forget to install malicious plugins.
#708 [17:28] <Boreeas> Do you need one? I can make you one.
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#722 [18:31] <Ondru> anyone help me? i cannot update my minecraft to latest versionm, i deleted everything in minecraft folder + java temp files.
#723 [18:31] <sugoi> Ondru: AVG (antivirus) ?
#724 [18:31] <Ondru> tried turning it off makes no difference
#725 [18:31] <sugoi> does the progress bar of the update start and then stall and never complete?
#726 [18:32] <Ondru> sometimes it gets to 6%
#727 [18:32] <Ondru> sometimes it dowsn't even downloadjust freezes
#728 [18:32] <sugoi> definitely sounds like antivirus
#729 [18:32] <Ondru> its not i'vedisabled it and get the same results
#730 [18:33] <Ondru> 1hour on google and now here. =/
#731 [18:34] <sugoi> no other AV installed?
#732 [18:35] <sugoi> try disabling your firewall too
#733 [18:35] <Ondru> it was fine a few weeks ago, firewall hasn't blocked anything
#734 [18:35] <sugoi> just worth testing
#735 [18:36] <sugoi> who knows what settings in your firewall AV's change
#736 [18:36] <sugoi> and you only have avg av?
#737 [18:36] <sugoi> not a second one?
#738 [18:36] <Ondru> ofc not
#739 [18:36] <sugoi> ofc not? :) imo, 1 av is 1 too many
#740 [18:37] * sugoi taunts the malware of the world, BRING IT!
#740 [18:37] <sugoi> anyways, turn off the firewall, test, just to see
#741 [18:37] <sugoi> also - do you have a 2nd computer?
#742 [18:38] <sugoi> you could update there and copy over the bin
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#755 [19:14] <DJSyther> Hello everyone.
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#761 [19:46] <Cruplezone> Hello...
#762 [19:46] <Cruplezone> Everybody...
#763 [19:47] <Cruplezone> *Tumble Weed rolls....
#764 [19:49] <sugoi> Cruplezone: sup
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#767 [20:09] <mib_wu7dfn> plizz halp mah meinkroft haz is a borken
#768 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Really Wug
#769 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> That couldn't have been any easier
#770 [20:11] <mib_wu7dfn> nobody else ever remembers the rule of wug
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#772 [20:18] <frencsday> I need help with installing a mod.
#773 [20:20] <sugoi> frencsday: this channel is best for vanilla support, feel free to ask your question
#774 [20:20] <Wug> frencsday: how far in are you
#775 [20:20] <Wug> we dont officially help with mods
#776 [20:20] <Wug> but we've had a dip in traffic
#777 [20:21] <Wug> so we have a bit more time for things like that
#778 [20:22] <frencsday> well I am having trouble installing the build craft mod, I just don't understand what I am doing wrong
#779 [20:22] <sugoi> frencsday: for server or client?
#780 [20:22] <frencsday> for server
#781 [20:23] <sugoi> that i haven't done (only ssp w/ buildcraft)
#782 [20:23] <sugoi> it might be faster to ask on #buildcraft
#783 [20:24] <frencsday> ok thanks
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#786 [20:35] <blink> Would any of you be able to provide mcmmo help regarding fish?
#787 [20:36] <blink> #mcmmo seems to be dead
#788 [20:36] <blink> #mcmmo seems to be dead
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#790 [20:38] <sugoi> we're dead too, mate
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#792 [20:41] <sugoi> blink: :) try on #risucraft or #bukkit
#793 [20:41] <sugoi> blink: i've never used mcmmo myself
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#795 [20:41] <blink> thanks
#796 [20:41] <blink> thanks
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#801 [20:59] <m2010sms> hello there i have a little problem with my home server "localhost server" when my friend login it said download Terrine and the server freeze and don't stop when i write stop on it
#802 [21:00] <m2010sms> anyone know how to fix this problem ?
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#804 [21:01] <sugoi> are you able to connect and disconnect and stop the server?
#805 [21:01] <sugoi> are you able to connect and disconnect and stop the server?
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#807 [21:02] <m2010sms> befor he log in yes i can login and work on my server
#808 [21:02] <sugoi> what server version?
#809 [21:02] <m2010sms> 1.2.5
#810 [21:02] <sugoi> bukkit or vanilla?
#811 [21:02] <m2010sms> bukkit
#812 [21:02] <sugoi> ask on bukkit then
#813 [21:03] <sugoi> -> /join #bukkit
#814 [21:03] <m2010sms> ok ty
#815 [21:03] <sugoi> yep
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#823 [21:46] <terrowrist> Hi, I have a minecraft premium account running the latest client version and whenever i join a single player or multiplayer server game, the service called services.exe spikes to 40%. I have even formatted my computer and installed the latest java. I am pretty much clueless to what is causing services.exe to spike up.
#824 [21:46] <oldtopman> No idea.
#825 [21:46] <oldtopman> May be a java thing.
#826 [21:47] <terrowrist> javaw.exe is running at 50%
#827 [21:47] <terrowrist> which is normal
#828 [21:47] <terrowrist> OS- Windows xp 32bit
#829 [21:48] <terrowrist> i also suspected this might be an issue related to java, but i though if anyone had a similar issue, and how they have fixed it
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#832 [21:55] <terrowrist> reinstalled java, no cure
#833 [22:14] <Eddie> The cure is Java's death.
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#836 [22:37] <Dan> how can i shutoff the rain on the server side
#837 [22:38] <Dan> nvm
#838 [22:47] <zkxs> /toggledownfall for vanilla
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