#MinecraftHelp > 2012-05-04
#1 [23:57] <fenster> boy id love to get my hands on a cs:go invite
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#3 [00:04] <ccc> what is the combination to make torches
#4 [00:05] <GreyVulpine> Coal/charcoal on top of a stick
#5 [00:06] <ccc> damn i need coal now
#6 [00:06] <ccc> i can't even survive the first night
#7 [00:06] <ccc> but its fun
#8 [00:09] <fenster> wug can always sudo apt-get install gnome-shell dunno about 384 mb of ram though
#9 [00:09] <Wug> its worked fine without unity
#10 [00:09] <Wug> it somehow works ok with it
#11 [00:09] <Wug> it will probably be fine with whatever
#12 [00:09] <Wug> I just want something with a smaller memory footprint
#13 [00:10] <fenster> i feel ya
#14 [00:10] <fenster> every mb counts
#15 [00:12] <fenster> i been playing with my Raspberry Pi
#16 [00:12] <fenster> fun stuff
#17 [00:17] <zkxs> so, it is like an arduino-sized computer?
#18 [00:20] <fenster> aye
#19 [00:20] <fenster> wallet size
#20 [00:21] <fenster> get the model b
#21 [00:21] <fenster> if your gonna get
#22 [00:21] <Eddie> So I made a raspberry pie yesterday. While other people were eating it, I stuck wires into it.
#23 [00:21] <fenster> ethernet port
#24 [00:21] <zkxs> linux is no fun without internet
#25 [00:21] <fenster> yeah but point is get kids learning
#26 [00:22] <fenster> i imagine all models will have ethernet in near future
#27 [00:22] <zkxs> Hopefully
#28 [00:22] <fenster> gfx is impressive though
#29 [00:22] <fenster> can stream blu rays at 40/mbits
#30 [00:23] <zkxs> being in the channel we're in... can it run minecraft?
#31 [00:23] <fenster> yes it can
#32 [00:23] <fenster> also can run other lower gfx games
#33 [00:23] <Eddie> Please provide us with proof that it runs Minecraft.
#34 [00:24] <zkxs> based off of the specs i found, it has 256MB of ram, and a 700 Hhz processor
#35 [00:24] <fenster> take some screenshots and stuff? na ill leave it to their site, they have tech details, any user should be able to tell from there
#36 [00:24] <zkxs> *Mhz
#37 [00:24] <fenster> check out the gpu
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#39 [00:24] <fenster> equal to a pent 2
#40 [00:24] <fenster> will pretty gfx for $25 lol
#41 [00:24] <fenster> with*
#42 [00:24] <libraryaddict> My brother can't run minecraft. Is there any huge list of reasons it would blackscreen? He deleted and redownloaded .minecraft already and reinstalled java
#43 [00:25] <zkxs> "To switch off: remove power."
#44 [00:25] <zkxs> ^WHAT
#45 [00:25] <fenster> after shutdown of os
#46 [00:31] <zkxs> it has GPIOs, cool
#47 [00:32] <zkxs> I have the sudden urge to get one and mount it in a standard PC case
#48 [00:34] <zkxs> I like their description of the hardware: "Overall real world performance is something like a 300MHz Pentium 2, only with much, much swankier graphics."
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#50 [00:37] <Wug> libraryaddict: that would be what we call a brute force solution
#51 [00:37] <libraryaddict> :\
#52 [00:37] <libraryaddict> Whats the "clever" one then
#53 [00:37] <Wug> I'm sure you understand that brute force solutions are only a practical option in trivial circumstances
#54 [00:37] <Wug> collect an error report
#55 [00:38] <libraryaddict> There is no error report :\
#56 [00:38] <libraryaddict> But reinstalling the graphics card works
#57 [00:38] * libraryaddict dances away
#57 [00:38] <Wug> so youve fixed it?
#58 [00:38] <libraryaddict> Yere. Just now
#59 [00:39] <Wug> if you had run it from a command line, you would have gotten the error message "bad pixel format"
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#61 [00:41] <libraryaddict> I did
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#63 [00:47] <fenster> ah was gonna link zkxs my pi
#64 [00:47] <fenster> so much fun to play with
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#67 [00:54] <AzA> Hi. I've bought a gift code on Tuesday and now i'm waiting for this. Is this normal, that i no retrieve any email about this ?
#68 [01:00] <libraryaddict> AzA you tried looking http://www.minecraft.net/profile
#69 [01:00] <libraryaddict> Then under "gift codes"
#70 [01:01] <libraryaddict> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329762-i-paid-for-a-gift-code-but-haven%E2%80%99t-received-it-
#71 [01:01] <AzA> Yes. I've looked for, but there was no code
#72 [01:02] <AzA> Ok.Thank you for the link.
#73 [01:02] <AzA> Ok.Thank you for the link.
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#77 [01:09] <AzA> goodby.
#78 [01:09] <AzA> goodby.
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#82 [01:23] <titegtnodI> tyteen4a03: HAI
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#88 [01:47] <tyteen4a03> titegtnodI: HI
#89 [01:47] <titegtnodI> :D
#90 [01:47] <titegtnodI> Can you let me join #gtfo?
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#101 [02:33] <titegtnodI> Hai Iguana and Kealper and Wug and xales and GreyVulpine!
#102 [02:33] <Wug> hi titegtnodI
#103 [02:34] <titegtnodI> HAI WUGZLZ!
#104 [02:34] <GreyVulpine> Oh god, why
#105 [02:35] <GreyVulpine> For what reason have you summoned the Dark Grey One? Speak, mortal.
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#108 [02:59] <Wug> the grumpy grey
#109 [03:02] <titegtnodI> Wug: GreyVulpine is just a big pile of love
#110 [03:02] <titegtnodI> Right GreyVulpine? :D
#111 [03:02] <titegtnodI> >3
#112 [03:02] <Wug> you might call it "love"
#113 [03:02] <titegtnodI> Yes! :D
#114 [03:02] <titegtnodI> You should -m #minestatus
#115 [03:02] <Wug> others call it kicks
#116 [03:02] <titegtnodI> :O D:
#117 [03:02] <Wug> I cant
#118 [03:02] <titegtnodI> He loves me though
#119 [03:03] <titegtnodI> :OOOOOOO
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#121 [03:09] <titegtnodI> o.o
#122 [03:09] <Calinou> what? :P
#123 [03:13] <titegtnodI> :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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#125 [03:13] <titegtnodI> VoxelHead: y u so?
#126 [03:33] <Wug> ?? demo
#127 [03:34] <VoxelHead> demo: Minecraft now has a demo available. PCGamer's article here: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/ gives the details. In short, it has all the tools of Minecraft survival, and 'locks' itself after 90 minutes.
#128 [03:34] <VoxelHead> demo: The Direct Download link is available here: http://is.gd/l507ow
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#130 [03:40] <OoDestinyoO> hi
#131 [03:40] <OoDestinyoO> German support ??
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#133 [03:42] <OoDestinyoO> I did not receive an e-mail for verification
#134 [03:43] <OoDestinyoO> I translate with goggle
#135 [03:47] <OoDestinyoO> ?
#136 [03:47] <OoDestinyoO> ?
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#138 [03:49] <DiskDaemon> THe email might have ended up i your spam filter
#139 [03:49] <DiskDaemon> ... in your spam filter
#140 [03:52] <Calinou> he left
#141 [03:52] <Calinou> :P
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#143 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> ahh well
#144 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> THe email may have ended up in your spam filter
#145 [03:55] <OoDestinyoO> there was none to
#146 [03:56] <OoDestinyoO> Also when I click on to send is not
#147 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> Mojang also provide further help and assistance at help.mojang.com
#148 [03:57] <OoDestinyoO> ok try it once. Thank you
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#152 [04:28] <Wug> GreyVulpine: I fixed derpbot
#153 [04:28] <Wug> I think
#154 [04:28] <Wug> I also added some neat new toys
#155 [04:28] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#156 [04:29] <Wug> you can now use ;check and specify just a port and it will check just you
#157 [04:29] <Wug> ;check 80
#158 [04:29] <WugBot> lol.rit.edu:80 does not host a minecraft server.
#159 [04:29] <Wug> you can specify a nick too
#160 [04:29] <Wug> ;check GreyVulpine:80
#161 [04:29] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: c-76-122-172-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net:80 (Timed out)
#162 [04:29] <Wug> you can call factoids in pm again
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#164 [04:29] <Wug> that was broken for a really long time
#165 [04:30] <Wug> I fixed some stuff that was making ;ignore behave really derpily
#166 [04:30] <Wug> I dont use it that much so it wasnt a huge deal
#167 [04:30] <Wug> I also added some statistical stuff that I cant use here because it will make a lot of people angry :>
#168 [04:32] <Aurvang> hey guys, short question: is there an email address for support? I didn't find one on the homepage
#169 [04:32] <GreyVulpine> There is not. You need to use their ticket system at help.mojang.com
#170 [04:33] <GreyVulpine> Use http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#181 [06:07] <Freaky> help
#182 [06:09] <DiskDaemon> help.mojang.com
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#184 [06:11] <Freaky> !commands
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#186 [06:16] <Freaky> how do I check if acount is
#187 [06:16] <Freaky> prem
#188 [06:18] <GreyVulpine> !paid GreyVulpine
#189 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> If your username here is different from your minecraft name, use your minecraft name.
#190 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> !paid DiskDaemon
#191 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> !paid Paul_Wilkins
#192 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> !paid Paul_Wilkins
#193 [06:20] <Freaky> !paid nicholas4821
#194 [06:21] <Freaky> !paid Buzzer
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#198 [06:42] <Rangooo123> hi
#199 [06:46] <Rangooo123> I have some problem ,, when i start the game come this shit up on the scrn ----------------->ORG.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#200 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Means your video card's drivers need to be updated
#201 [06:47] <Rangooo123> i have new drivers
#202 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> And how do you know that?
#203 [06:48] <Rangooo123> i download the drivers from guru3 d
#204 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> I assume you're on a windows operating system?
#205 [06:49] <Rangooo123> yes win 7 32bit
#206 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us a dxdiag? It'll tell us more information about your system, including what video card you have and what drivers are installed?
#207 [06:50] <GreyVulpine> ??> Rangooo123 win/dxdiag
#208 [06:50] <VoxelHead> Rangooo123: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#209 [06:50] <VoxelHead> Rangooo123: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#210 [06:56] <Rangooo123> http://pastebin.com/dM0mrZKH
#211 [06:57] <Rangooo123> and ?
#212 [06:57] <GreyVulpine> Give me one minute to read over it
#213 [06:57] <Rangooo123> kk
#214 [06:58] <DiskDaemon> Latest news - Java is now updating java 6 to Java 7 for windows users. http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Java-7-arrives-for-nearly-all-1568033.html
#215 [06:58] * GreyVulpine snrks
#215 [06:59] <GreyVulpine> That's going to cause so many problems for windows users on minecraft.
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#217 [06:59] <DiskDaemon> Yep, thought I'd give a head's up on it here
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#219 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Rangooo123 - Try the AMD video drivers from: http://support.gateway.com/us/en/emac/product/default.aspx?modelId=1810
#220 [07:02] <andrewxios> what motivates you to always answer the same questions?,lol
#221 [07:03] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#221 [07:03] <puffrfish> the feeling of helping people is good when someone appreciates it :)
#222 [07:05] <Rangooo123> the vga drivers ?
#223 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> Is it practical to try and mebed some of this knowledge into a wiki of some kind?
#224 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#225 [07:06] <Rangooo123> from 10/07/2009
#226 [07:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#227 [07:06] <Rangooo123> ok i will tryit
#228 [07:07] <puffrfish> many people's problems are unique, and a wiki is hard to follow for beginners. some people don't even know where to look because they don't understand the problem
#229 [07:07] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon - Has been mentioned, and brought up time and again. I'll say this, I welcome a wiki if somebody actually takes over maintenance. Has been tried a few times, and died a few weeks later.
#230 [07:08] <DiskDaemon> Could it be appended on to the existing minecraft wiki, where there is an audience to begin with?
#231 [07:08] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#231 [07:09] <GreyVulpine> I won't touch the wiki. Curse, bleh.
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#233 [07:14] <DiskDaemon> and I guess a trouble with a wiki is people editing a page to add their own particular prolem, asking for help on it
#234 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> You've got several problems. One, people don't read. Two, "Too long, didn't read" duplication. Three, outdated material and solutions. Four, ease of editing for griefing. Five, it doesn't replace some of the more in-depth issues (port forwarding? issues under dozens of flavors of *nix and other operating systems?)
#235 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> Much of technical support requires an actual person to understand the operating system, as well as how minecraft works and communicates.
#236 [07:19] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, believing you about java 7 :P
#237 [07:19] <Calinou> people said it was released about 10 months ago
#238 [07:19] <Calinou> foreverjava6. :P
#239 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> Even with the basic "Can't connect to minecraft.net" error, I can name a dozen causes...
#240 [07:20] <Calinou> the easiest one: no internet connection, lol
#241 [07:20] <GreyVulpine> All dependent on factors like operating system, the version of java, whether or not they've pirated minecraft before..
#242 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> In such cases, leaving unconnected links to potential causes and issues seems to be a solution, both as hints to others coming along, and placeholders for details to be filled in later on
#243 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> but this is in the end a case of not enough solutions and too many problems
#244 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> The "setting up a server" tutorial on the wiki mentions port forwarding, which just goes over the head of most kids.
#245 [07:24] <GreyVulpine> I can't count the number of people I've had to personally remote in and set up for them. This also includes special cases like multiple NAT layers, dozens of security software/firewall solutions, horrid ISP-provided combination modem/routers...
#246 [07:26] <DiskDaemon> It seems that would would help there is for someone to take on a documenter role, so that you can go ahead with solving problems, and the techniques used can be recorded for posterity (and reference) by someone else
#247 [07:26] * GreyVulpine nods.
#247 [07:28] <GreyVulpine> But, I've been here for close to two years now. Ever since Mojang switched to the new help system and not included us in the help link like before, our traffic has dropped dramatically. On top of that, they've endorsed the minecraft forums, which are a mess. I'm quite burnt out, as well as a number of other ops and regulars here.
#248 [07:29] <Calinou> "The "setting up a server" tutorial on the wiki mentions port forwarding, which just goes over the head of most kids."
#249 [07:29] <Calinou> how true, lol
#250 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> yeah dammit, too much time has passed - it's a common thing in too many communities
#251 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> In the last 200 days of 2011, our statistics bot recorded over 22k unique nicknames.
#252 [07:30] <GreyVulpine> In the last 120 days, we've only gotten 5k
#253 [07:31] <Calinou> :o
#254 [07:32] <Calinou> "On top of that, they've endorsed the minecraft forums, which are a mess"
#255 [07:32] <Calinou> agree
#256 [07:32] <Calinou> most people requiring help just give up because their topic isn't on the first page
#257 [07:32] * GreyVulpine nods
#257 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> TL;DR.
#258 [07:32] <Calinou> due to people posting useless stuff in a topic with a very minor problem
#259 [07:33] <Calinou> "not enough ram for a 512x pack what can i do" replies are usually: "rtfm" or imageposts
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#263 [07:36] <Rangooo123> same problem
#264 [07:37] <Rangooo123> hello
#265 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, that's not good.
#266 [07:38] <Rangooo123> and i pay for the game :(
#267 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> The only other driver I can suggest is AMD's at: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#268 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> If those don't work, your video card may just be too old to run minecraft properly.
#269 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> please keep in mind that nobody here is paid to help, but despite that we'll do what we can to try and get you going
#270 [07:40] <Rangooo123> where can i find the new JAWA
#271 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> java.com
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#299 [09:43] <Mafios> hey ?
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#301 [09:45] <sammaelt> hi mafios
#302 [09:45] <sammaelt> need anything
#303 [09:45] <Mafios> how i can contact Minecraft.NET team for public Romanian Minecraft website support on the Community page
#304 [09:45] <Mafios> http://www.minecraft.net/community
#305 [09:46] <Mafios> i look French Minecraft community. / Dutch Minecraft community. / A Russian forum
#306 [09:46] <Mafios> etc etc
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#308 [09:47] <sammaelt> well you first gotta make sure its the first romanian site in the romanian community
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#310 [09:49] <Mafios> yes, is the first forum and is the official forum for minecraft support
#311 [09:49] <Mafios> in romania
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#316 [10:07] <sammaelt> well just try to contact them
#317 [10:07] <sammaelt> there's several different ways
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#354 [13:55] <Marshmont> #lsmp
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#360 [14:39] <bruno> Can anyone point me to the direction of a how-to on how to use the permissions.yml at minecraft's server base folder ?
#361 [14:40] <AmberK> Why....?
#362 [14:40] <AmberK> It's useless compared to a plugin
#363 [14:40] <bruno> AmberK: I couldn't find a Permissions plugin compatible with bukkit 1.2.5-R1.0
#364 [14:41] <AmberK> ...
#365 [14:41] <bruno> I mean, I did find PEX, but it adds more stuff than I want it to.
#366 [14:41] <AmberK> All four of them
#367 [14:41] <AmberK> Pex: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/permissionsex
#368 [14:41] <AmberK> bPerms: http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/bpermissions
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#370 [14:41] <AmberK> either one
#371 [14:41] <AmberK> and pex only adds what you tell it to
#372 [14:42] <sugoi> isn't superperms the de-facto one from bukkit now?
#373 [14:42] <bruno> The version I downloaded from plugins.bukkit.org came with two other plugins (ModifyChat and some other)
#374 [14:42] <AmberK> Right
#375 [14:42] <AmberK> those are so you can have prefixes, and control building permissions
#376 [14:43] <AmberK> they're not like entirely different plugins in the manner that you have to configure them
#377 [14:43] <bruno> Well, I didn't take kindly to them. I will check that other one bPerms.
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#380 [15:15] <Cruplezone> Hello Everyone!
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#382 [15:15] <Cruplezone> Hey Tonux :)
#383 [15:16] <Tonux> hi
#384 [15:16] <Cruplezone> Need help with anything or are you here to help?
#385 [15:19] <sugoi> he's just here to say hi
#386 [15:20] <sugoi> i'm just here to be distracted from work from time to time
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#394 [15:46] <Real> Hello
#395 [15:46] <Real> I'd like to ask you a question
#396 [15:46] <Real> I forgot what my email was, nor the password and someone has my minecraft password.
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#399 [15:47] <Real> My minecraft account
#400 [15:47] <Real> What can I do?
#401 [15:49] <Real> Is there anyone willing to help me?
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#404 [15:52] <blinky> Anyone know how to hook vault with herochat for bukkit?
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#407 [16:04] <Biscuitboy5396> Hi
#408 [16:05] <Biscuitboy5396> I am bridging my connections from my Laptop to PC as my PC doesn't have a wireless card ( I am getting one) and I can't connect to Minecraft Online on my PC but can through Minecraft.net. Anyone know why?
#409 [16:08] <Calinou> huh? check your firewall :P
#410 [16:08] <Calinou> just use ethernet.
#411 [16:08] <Biscuitboy5396> My router is in my basement
#412 [16:09] <Biscuitboy5396> I can connect online through the website but not the downloaded version
#413 [16:09] <Calinou> any error message? or just "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#414 [16:09] <Calinou> check the username/password
#415 [16:10] <Biscuitboy5396> It won't how the start up Forum page with all the update just the HTML coding
#416 [16:10] <Calinou> ^ probably some firewall blocking the connection.
#417 [16:10] <Calinou> also, don't use java 7 with minecraft.
#418 [16:11] <Biscuitboy5396> Should I try to downgrade the Java?
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#422 [16:11] <Calinou> Biscuitboy5396, yep, use java 6.
#423 [16:11] <Biscuitboy5396> It should work than?
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#425 [16:12] <Calinou> maybe. at least, try
#426 [16:12] <Calinou> use 64 bit java if you're on a 64 bit OS
#427 [16:17] <sugoi> failed network talk is either java 7 or antivirus
#428 [16:17] <sugoi> so also, turn off your AVG, test, if it works, add java as an exception
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#433 [16:36] <sathees> Hi
#434 [16:36] <sathees> I need help
#435 [16:36] <sathees> Ello?
#436 [16:37] <sathees> #
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#438 [16:37] <sathees> Ello????
#439 [16:37] <sathees> Can someone help?
#440 [16:37] <sathees> Can someone help?
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#453 [17:33] <sugoi> sat[tab][tab] ..
#454 [17:33] <sugoi> he waited 2 minutes?
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#456 [17:34] <sugoi> tho i am an hour after, but still!
#457 [17:35] <NinjaKirby> lol, oh god sathees again
#458 [17:36] <NinjaKirby> He kept getting bot muted last time, since he types one word every other line in SMS Texting format
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#465 [17:56] <sugoi> teenagers piss me off with their sms spelling
#466 [17:57] <sammaelt> i totally agree, adults too
#467 [17:57] <sugoi> sammaelt: +1
#468 [17:57] * sugoi realizes he's not in reddit
#468 [18:01] <Boreeas> sugoi, its not that bad, dont u agree?
#469 [18:01] * Boreeas hides
#469 [18:01] <sugoi> haha
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#471 [18:01] <sugoi> Boreeas: -1
#472 [18:02] <Boreeas> sugoi y???
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#474 [18:02] <cmac34> need some help with something and i was wondering if you guys could help me out
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#475 [18:02] <sugoi> cmac34: it makes it a lot easier to help when you gives the specifics right out
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#477 [18:02] <Boreeas> cmac34: Go ahead and ask and we will see if we can help you
#478 [18:03] <cmac34> I just paid for minecraft but it says im not a premium user and wont let me download the game any suggestions?
#479 [18:03] <sugoi> cmac34: 1. make sure you bought from minecraft.net
#480 [18:03] <Boreeas> 2. It may take a up to three days if the payment is processed.
#481 [18:04] <cmac34> I did but never received a conformation purchase email
#482 [18:04] <sugoi> cmac34: 2. it could take some time, it's an international transaction - also, confirm with your bank the purchase wasn't flagged/put on hold
#483 [18:04] <sugoi> cmac34: your bank probably didn't allow the purchase
#484 [18:04] <sugoi> jsut call them up and say it's okay
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#486 [18:04] <sugoi> it's a safety thing banks do because the purchase is overseas
#487 [18:04] <cmac34> they did and I made sure the transaction went through
#488 [18:04] * sugoi thinks moneybookers should just operate out of nigeria, epic troll!
#488 [18:05] <sugoi> cmac34: going online and seeing the money is out is NOT confirming it went through, just fyi
#489 [18:05] <cmac34> I know haha but I contacted my bank account and they processed the payment
#490 [18:06] <sugoi> if so, then i would be worried you didn't actually buy from minecraft.net
#491 [18:06] <sugoi> in that confirmation, did you happen to notice if the purchase when to "moneybookers" ?
#492 [18:06] <cmac34> it did go through moneybookers and I bought it from minecraft.net
#493 [18:07] <sugoi> and no email confirmation
#494 [18:07] <sugoi> perhaps you gave the wrong email :)
#495 [18:07] <cmac34> yep and no email confirmation
#496 [18:07] <cmac34> haha no I made sure I gave the right email
#497 [18:07] <sugoi> how long ago did you make the purchase?
#498 [18:08] <cmac34> made the purchase about 7 hours ago
#499 [18:08] <sugoi> for me it took 1 minute, for other's it may take a day or more
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#501 [18:08] <sugoi> give it some time, worse case scenario, you retract the purchase
#502 [18:09] <cmac34> alright great thanks for your help! I'll pop back in if I haven't heard anything
#503 [18:09] <sugoi> my bank processes things better because of all the money i send to help out my friend, a nigerian prince
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#505 [18:09] <cmac34> haha
#506 [18:09] <sugoi> you laugh now, but i'm going to make millions
#507 [18:10] <cmac34> i hope you do, good luck with that
#508 [18:10] * sugoi snickers
#508 [18:10] <sugoi> thanks :)
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#518 [19:12] <CruelNoise> Hey guys. Friend of mine says he gets a message saying his "account has been migrated"
#519 [19:12] <CruelNoise> Any idea what that's about?
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#521 [19:13] <TheNoodle> Mojang migrated accounts to a new system, tell him to use his email address instead of his username to log in :)
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#526 [20:08] <Chris> ;paid luxius96
#527 [20:08] <WugBot> luxius96 has paid for minecraft.
#528 [20:10] <AmberK> ;Derp
#529 [20:10] <AmberK> whoops
#530 [20:10] <AmberK> ;paid Derp
#531 [20:10] <WugBot> Derp has paid for minecraft.
#532 [20:10] <AmberK> \o/
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#534 [20:13] <Blevis> My minecraft client will not load, it goes to black screen and freezes while loading. i have tried the browser version and it works aside from the occasional crash. how do i get my client to work? i have tried updating the bin folder and reinstalling numerous times, i have also made sure my drivers are up to date and my specs meet requirements. while they ari
#535 [20:13] <lemon-rev> Blevis i goto go, but update java
#536 [20:13] <NinjaKirby> Or install from scratch, but maybe just update
#537 [20:14] <Blevis> are not ideal they are certainly enough to run the game
#538 [20:14] <Blevis> please help
#539 [20:14] <NinjaKirby> :3
#540 [20:14] <lemon-rev> blevis i said java
#541 [20:14] <lemon-rev> java.com
#542 [20:15] <Blevis> i think i have the most recent java but i will try
#543 [20:15] <Blevis> and i have unistalled and updated many times
#544 [20:15] <Blevis> i know that
#545 [20:16] <Blevis> asdf
#546 [20:19] <Blevis> any other suggestions?
#547 [20:20] <Blevis> java is up to date, version 6 32
#548 [20:20] <NinjaKirby> Mine was up-to-date, till I took an arrow to the knee. No, mine was up-to-date but a clean install still fixed Crashes for me.
#549 [20:21] <Blevis> ok i will try
#550 [20:21] <Blevis> aso checking for older versions which may interfer
#551 [20:22] <NinjaKirby> Could be worth installing v7 Beta, I get the impression it's really stable
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#553 [20:30] <Blevis> No luck
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#555 [20:30] <Blevis> re installed java and still crashes
#556 [20:30] <Blevis> it doesnt even load it just says loading done then black screen
#557 [20:30] <Blevis> and freeezes
#558 [20:31] <sammaelt> there are two java, 32bit and 64bit
#559 [20:31] <Blevis> i have 32
#560 [20:31] <sammaelt> you're really sure you cant load a clean vanilla modless version
#561 [20:32] <Blevis> i have 32
#562 [20:32] <sammaelt> i dunno ihad to pick up 64bit although they were telling me to pick 32 on the java website, had to took 64 to get render=far
#563 [20:32] <Blevis> yes i havent even gotten to play it
#564 [20:32] <sammaelt> oh really
#565 [20:32] <Blevis> i just got it yesterday
#566 [20:32] <Blevis> wont load at all
#567 [20:33] <sammaelt> then you might try to change your advended open gl
#568 [20:33] <sammaelt> oops i nearly died while answering you, good thing i had the headphone >_<
#569 [20:33] <Blevis> how do i do that?
#570 [20:35] <sammaelt> onto your gfx control, either windows or your ati/nvidia control panel
#571 [20:35] <Blevis> i have an ati radeon 9600
#572 [20:35] <Blevis> lol what?
#573 [20:35] <Blevis> oh in minecraft haha
#574 [20:35] <sammaelt> hmm?
#575 [20:35] <sammaelt> no in windows
#576 [20:36] <Blevis> ok ill check it out
#577 [20:36] <Blevis> its in windows>
#578 [20:36] <Blevis> ?
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#580 [20:37] <sammaelt> your ati control panel should have this, try setting it to max
#581 [20:37] <sammaelt> i dunno if that could help you, maybe
#582 [20:38] <sammaelt> whats your specs
#583 [20:38] <sammaelt> NinjaKirby: can casual users install java v7? or its only for testers
#584 [20:38] <Blevis> pentium 4 2.80 ghz
#585 [20:38] <Blevis> 2gb of ram
#586 [20:39] <Blevis> ati radeon 9600
#587 [20:39] <sammaelt> i got about the same but with 4gb
#588 [20:39] <Blevis> alright
#589 [20:39] <Blevis> i may try reinstalling the gfx card
#590 [20:39] <Blevis> worth a shot?
#591 [20:39] <sammaelt> it should work on 2gb with a small render though
#592 [20:40] <sammaelt> guess you might better try updating your driver if not already done
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#594 [20:40] <Blevis> it is
#595 [20:40] <Blevis> tried yesterday
#596 [20:40] <ShadowFios> sso i wanted to set up a UHC server
#597 [20:41] <ShadowFios> but i dont know how to incorperate random spawns
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#599 [20:42] <ShadowFios> can anyone help?
#600 [20:42] <sammaelt> Blevis, try looking in your ati control panel for 3d display
#601 [20:42] <sammaelt> sorry Shadow, not my thing
#602 [20:42] <sammaelt> sorry Shadow, not my thing
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#605 [20:51] <ShadowFios> am i still in the same server?
#606 [20:52] <ShadowFios> yes
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#618 [22:54] <Gold> Hello. Well, I am completely lost in the minecraft world right now, and so I have tried using a compass. Before I had gotten lost, I had made a home and a bed (which I have sleeped in), but the compass seems to be bringing me to me original spawn point. Any ideas?
#619 [22:58] <Omega_Guardian> Rei's Minimap would help you lots
#620 [22:59] <Gold> Is that a certain mod? Sorry, I'm pretty noobish haha.
#621 [22:59] <Omega_Guardian> yep
#622 [22:59] <Gold> Alright, I'll check it out. Thank you! :)
#623 [23:00] <Omega_Guardian> nowdays some servers allow it cause the cheaty aspects can be detected and disabled by the server
#624 [23:00] <Omega_Guardian> namely the mob detection, cave mapping/ore indicators, and something else that I don't remember
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#626 [23:33] <deadfire813> hi i recently installed java 7.4 and also have java 6.32 but now my mc via the exe luancher wont update or connect
#627 [23:33] <deadfire813> to minecraft.net
#628 [23:34] <deadfire813> anyone there?
#629 [23:35] <zkxs> Was there any particular reason you upgraded to java 7?
#630 [23:35] <deadfire813> i need it for eclipse jdk
#631 [23:35] <deadfire813> (learning to mod)
#632 [23:36] <deadfire813> im sorry its eclipse SDK
#633 [23:37] <zkxs> You can't mod with 6? "Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft."
#634 [23:37] <zkxs> 1.7 == 7
#635 [23:37] <deadfire813> well ok let me try with out 7
#636 [23:37] <zkxs> As long as you have the 6 jdk, I wouldn't imagine you'd have a problem
#637 [23:38] <deadfire813> no i just got a huge error
#638 [23:38] <zkxs> I've got java 6 on my computer, and I can code fine with it. Albeit, I don't make mods...
#639 [23:39] <deadfire813> do you use eclipse?
#640 [23:39] <zkxs> No, I use a text editor and the command line
#641 [23:40] <zkxs> I have eclipse, but I seem to be more skilled at crashing it than coding with it
#642 [23:41] <ccc> when i use a hoe to build farm
#643 [23:41] <ccc> does it have to be near water
#644 [23:41] <zkxs> deadfire813: are you using modloader, or decompiled MC source?
#645 [23:41] <zkxs> ccc: No, but if you have your farm near water it will hydrate and wheat will grow quicker
#646 [23:42] <zkxs> ccc: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Farmland#Hydrated_Farmland_Tiles
#647 [23:43] <zkxs> deadfire813: You might want to ask in #risucraft for modloader, or #mcp-modding for MCP
#648 [23:45] <deadfire813> imma gonna mod with modloader
#649 [23:45] <deadfire813> i think
#650 [23:45] <deadfire813> or mcp
#651 [23:45] <deadfire813> or both
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#653 [23:46] <zkxs> It could also be that the two javas are fighting and making minecraft sad
#654 [23:47] <zkxs> I wonder, if you specifically run minecraft with java 6's java.exe, if that would work
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#657 [23:57] <deadfire813> OK I FIXED IT HTANKS FOR THE HELP MAN
#658 [23:57] <deadfire813> if i could upvote you i would
#659 [23:58] <zkxs> :P lol
#660 [23:58] <zkxs> What was the fix?
#661 [23:59] <deadfire813> got older version of eclipse that worked with 1.6.32
#662 [23:59] <deadfire813> :P
#663 [23:59] <zkxs> lol
#664 [23:59] <zkxs> Well, good luck modding