#1 [00:20] <Scott> !check play.stompzcraft.com
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#4 [00:31] <Zackmaster2145> Hello?
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#6 [00:31] <Zackmaster2145> Ummm
#7 [00:31] <Zackmaster2145> I need some help with buyign minecraft
#8 [00:31] <Zackmaster2145> Buying*
#9 [00:32] <Zackmaster2145> I don't have a credit card
#10 [00:32] <Zackmaster2145> So can I call minecraft and pay them buy mail or something?
#11 [00:32] <Zackmaster2145> by*
#12 [00:32] <bikcmp> lol
#13 [00:32] <bikcmp> by mail
#14 [00:32] <bikcmp> that'll take, like, a bit
#15 [00:32] <Zackmaster2145> And?
#16 [00:32] <Zackmaster2145> I'll wait
#17 [00:32] <bikcmp> just buy a prepaid credit card from your local cvs
#18 [00:32] <GreyVulpine> No. The only way to get minecraft is through digital download
#19 [00:33] <Zackmaster2145> I just don't have a credit card
#20 [00:33] <bikcmp> Zackmaster2145: buy a prepaid cc
#21 [00:33] <bikcmp> they sell them all over
#22 [00:33] <Zackmaster2145> didint work
#23 [00:33] <bikcmp> i use them all the time
#24 [00:33] <bikcmp> Zackmaster2145: i'm sure it'll work
#25 [00:33] <Zackmaster2145> I have tride prepaid
#26 [00:33] <bikcmp> since i've personally done it.
#27 [00:33] <bikcmp> :)
#28 [00:33] <bikcmp> Zackmaster2145: buy an american express or visa vanilla prepaid card
#29 [00:33] <bikcmp> i'm /sure/ they work.
#30 [00:33] <bikcmp> well
#31 [00:33] <bikcmp> amex not sure, visa yes
#32 [00:33] <bikcmp> don't see a reason as to why amex wouldn't tbh
#33 [00:33] <Zackmaster2145> I have tride TRUST ME they dont work
#34 [00:34] <Zackmaster2145> My friend even said they dont work
#35 [00:34] <Zackmaster2145> Look it up on google every one says they dont work when buying minecraft
#36 [00:34] <bikcmp> Zackmaster2145: for some reason, actually doing it vs your friend saying it won't work... hm
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#38 [00:34] <bikcmp> you're telling someone who bought the game using a visa vanilla card
#39 [00:34] <bikcmp> that it won't work
#40 [00:34] <Zackmaster2145> OMG I have done it though
#41 [00:34] <bikcmp> lol
#42 [00:34] <Zackmaster2145> It didn
#43 [00:34] <bikcmp> i can assure you, it works.
#44 [00:34] <Zackmaster2145> didn
#45 [00:34] <bikcmp> i've personally done it.
#46 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> bikcmp - There's a difference between a vanilla credit card, and a prepaid
#47 [00:34] <Zackmaster2145> It didn't* work
#48 [00:35] <bikcmp> GreyVulpine: which is why i mentioned vanilla visa
#49 [00:35] <bikcmp> specifically.
#50 [00:35] <bikcmp> Zackmaster2145: otherwise, hm
#51 [00:35] <Zackmaster2145> Well I can't get it
#52 [00:35] <bikcmp> Zackmaster2145: ask your parents
#53 [00:35] <Zackmaster2145> I already have
#54 [00:35] <Zackmaster2145> She's going to call em right now
#55 [00:35] <bikcmp> and?
#56 [00:35] <Zackmaster2145> I'm trying to find a different way
#57 [00:35] <bikcmp> they don't have credit cards either?
#58 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Zackmaster2145 - You realize that Mojang is based in Sweden?
#59 [00:35] <Zackmaster2145> Derp
#60 [00:35] <bikcmp> that too
#61 [00:35] <bikcmp> lol
#62 [00:35] <bikcmp> Zackmaster2145: they don't have credit cards?
#63 [00:36] <bikcmp> that is rather hard to believe in this age
#64 [00:36] <bikcmp> in that case go to your bank and get one
#65 [00:36] <bikcmp> lol
#66 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> That all transactions going to Mojang, are considered international transactions, and because of that, can and do trip anti-fraud measures by finanacial institutions
#67 [00:36] <bikcmp> yeah
#68 [00:36] <bikcmp> i never had a problem like i've said 900 times already
#69 [00:36] <Zackmaster2145> ?
#70 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> This prevents people from stealing money, buying prepaids, and offloading the money overseas, where it can't be touched
#71 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> With prepaids, you'll generally need to talk to the customer service number, located on the backs of all cards, to get it unlocked
#72 [00:37] <Zackmaster2145> Well I have tryed buying minecraft with a credit card and it didn't work it didn't even take the money
#73 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Then call customer support
#74 [00:37] <GreyVulpine> Let them know you're trying to purchase something on the internet, and the transaction is being denied.
#75 [00:37] <Zackmaster2145> I don't have the credit card any more
#76 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Ask them if they can clarify
#77 [00:38] <Zackmaster2145> it expired
#78 [00:38] <GreyVulpine> Then perhaps that's the reason it was declined?
#79 [00:38] <Zackmaster2145> Sooooo Umm coming here was no help so...
#80 [00:38] <Zackmaster2145> bye
#81 [00:38] * GreyVulpine waves
#81 [00:39] <Wug> LOL
#82 [00:39] <bikcmp> ...
#83 [00:39] <bikcmp> typical minecraft user
#84 [00:39] <Wug> ^^^^^
#85 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> He's not a minecraft user.
#86 [00:39] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't have minecraft.
#87 [00:39] <Wug> thank god
#88 [00:39] <bikcmp> another one bites the dust then
#89 [00:40] <bikcmp> GreyVulpine: i'm sure he's played it cracked though
#90 [00:40] * GreyVulpine goes back to awful code.
#90 [00:40] <bikcmp> no doubt in my mind
#91 [00:40] <bikcmp> lol
#92 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Pfft, wouldn't be surprised
#93 [00:40] <Wug> GreyVulpine: what are you working on
#94 [00:40] <bikcmp> 00:39:26 < bikcmp> typical minecraft user
#95 [00:40] <bikcmp> :P
#96 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Space Station 13. DG and the others are trying to clean up code
#97 [00:40] <Wug> mm neat
#98 [00:40] <bikcmp> lol
#99 [00:40] <zkxs> Don't most people play it cracked? The demo isn't exactly easy to find...
#100 [00:40] * Wug does a feature request for a linux client
#100 [00:40] <GreyVulpine> Compile it then
#101 [00:40] <zkxs> * I mean before they go and buy it
#102 [00:40] <Wug> zkxs: most people actually own it
#103 [00:43] <sammaelt> i actually never played it before i bought it
#104 [00:43] <zkxs> kudos
#105 [00:45] * GreyVulpine prods Wug
#105 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Byond is available on *nix
#106 [00:45] <Wug> I thought that was only the server
#107 [00:45] <Wug> thats what dg said anyway
#108 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> I don't know... try it yourself.
#109 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> http://www.byond.com/download/
#110 [00:46] <Wug> I'm twiddling wugbot
#111 [00:47] <Wug> what do I need to fix
#112 [00:47] <Wug> I have a few things in mind, inluding
#113 [00:47] <Wug> adding multi-rules to the word filter
#114 [00:47] <Wug> fixing the clone watch thing to not be so aggressive about its messages
#115 [00:47] * GreyVulpine is going to slowly drift away from #minecrafthelp, unless there's something new down the pipeline.
#115 [00:48] <Wug> GreyVulpine: yeah, we all are
#116 [00:48] * GreyVulpine nods
#116 [00:48] <Wug> its been happening for months
#117 [00:48] <Wug> since we stopped getting as much traffic
#118 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> Mojang hasn't given me any contact at all. Requests go unreplied.
#119 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> Mojang hasn't given me any contact at all. Requests go unreplied.
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#122 [00:49] <Wug> I can sort of understand why they would drop us though
#123 [00:50] <Wug> on one hand, it isnt really fair for us to do all of the troubleshooting work
#124 [00:50] <Wug> on the other, we're not official
#125 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> SS13, although horridly outdated and frustratingly borked, is a good project to get into right now.
#126 [00:50] <Wug> whats it written in
#127 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Thinking we can breathe new life into the code
#128 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> It's Byond, it's its own environment. Similar to VB/C++
#129 [00:50] <Wug> oh god
#130 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> I mean, if you know OO-design, it's not a giant leap.
#131 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> Just, horrid in some of its implementations
#132 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> The deal is, there's a group of people who's porting it to C# in their free time, at http://spacestation13.com/
#133 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> So we're expecting a better quality game, with no ETA yet.
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#135 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> In the meantime, SS13 has great Coop, with gamemodes ranging from traitor/saboteur, to cult, to meteor strike, to nuclear accident
#136 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> as well as virus epidemic, alien/shapeshifter.. and others
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#138 [01:06] <Finamenon> anyone here able to help me construct a basic if statement in java? I know this might be a weird area to ask.. but people here tend to be quite knowledgable
#139 [01:06] <Wug> if (condition) {statements;}
#140 [01:07] <Wug> also google
#141 [01:07] <Finamenon> well the issue is im trying to get it to only fire when a random number is over 90 out of 100
#142 [01:07] <Finamenon> looking at this code I have, I cant tell if their random number generator is defined incode or part of base java
#143 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> if (number> 90 && number <=100) {meep;}
#144 [01:08] <Wug> step 1: get a random number between 0 and 100
#145 [01:08] <zkxs> make a random number from 0 to 9, if 0, do condition
#146 [01:08] <Wug> step 2: the thing gravy said
#147 [01:08] * GreyVulpine kicks Wug
#147 [01:08] <Finamenon> alright, thanks Ill go get my knuckles dirty and attempt this lol
#148 [01:08] <zkxs> lol gravy
#149 [01:09] * Wug is smug
#149 [01:09] <Wug> * smug wug
#150 [01:09] <Finamenon> time to google how to generate said number, brb
#151 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> import java.util.random
#152 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Random Generator = new Random();
#153 [01:11] <Finamenon> the code has this in it.. its beyond me final int DROP_NUMBER = random.nextInt(100);
#154 [01:11] <Finamenon> the only coding ive done in the past is a derivative of C
#155 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Alright, then DROP_NUMBER is the variable that's going to get the random number from 1-100
#156 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> or rather, 0-99
#157 [01:13] <Finamenon> so random.nextInt(100) will create a new random?
#158 [01:13] <zkxs> from 0 to 99, yes
#159 [01:14] <Finamenon> hmm ok
#160 [01:14] <Finamenon> so I can declare another one of those to use for a separate check, and it wont re-use the same number per code cycle?
#161 [01:16] <zkxs> Here is some commentless code http://pastebin.com/6x7MwKkg
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#163 [01:16] <zkxs> you can use the same generator
#164 [01:17] <Finamenon> hah! I like it
#165 [01:17] <Finamenon> lol thanks
#166 [01:17] <Finamenon> thats how I learned code in the past
#167 [01:17] <Finamenon> the whole reverse engineering approach
#168 [01:19] <zkxs> also, you don't have to use the brackets after the 'if' if you only want to if one statement, but that makes for less organized code, in my opinion
#169 [01:19] <Finamenon> I always did
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#171 [01:19] <Finamenon> made it easier to read
#172 [01:19] <cRaCk3r87> how can i start m,y own server for mc ?
#173 [01:19] <GreyVulpine> Download server binary from minecraft.net/download, run it. Bam, server
#174 [01:19] <zkxs> cRaCk3r87: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#175 [01:20] <cRaCk3r87> yah i did that but a window comes up saying a java error
#176 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> What java error?
#177 [01:21] <cRaCk3r87> hold on
#178 [01:22] <Finamenon> anyway thanks all for the java advice
#179 [01:22] <Finamenon> I will attempt to use it :D
#180 [01:24] <cRaCk3r87> so it says ...'java' is not reconized as an internal or external command' operable program or batchfile press and key to contune....
#181 [01:25] <GreyVulpine> Do you have java installed?
#182 [01:25] <cRaCk3r87> yes the latest
#183 [01:26] <cRaCk3r87> its like a command promted window that pops up
#184 [01:26] <cRaCk3r87> i dont kno if i am opening the right thing or wat ?
#185 [01:29] <cRaCk3r87> any ideas from any one ..
#186 [01:29] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall java completely, reinstall it
#187 [01:31] <cRaCk3r87> i thought this would be easy......
#188 [01:32] <zkxs> well, if you java is installed correctly, it is
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#190 [01:36] <cRaCk3r87> so after i instal java do i clike on start server?
#191 [01:36] <GreyVulpine> Sure, if you want to start up a classic server
#192 [01:36] <cRaCk3r87> ......then wat one
#193 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> Check www.minecraft.net/download
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#197 [01:46] <TheBadShepperd> So. In an odd turn of events, I need Minecraft help.
#198 [01:46] <cRaCk3r87> do i have to exstract the files?
#199 [01:47] <TheBadShepperd> The client tells me I have to use my email to sign in, which I can't remember. Going to the website and hitting verify email tells me my account doesn't exist, but yet..
#200 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Use minecraft_server.exe
#201 [01:47] <TheBadShepperd> !paid archimage
#202 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> TheBadShepperd - This is going to be something you'll need to hit Mojang up for
#203 [01:48] <TheBadShepperd> That sounds like it's going to be a quick fix. </s>
#204 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#205 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> "Mojang customer support operates Monday through Friday, and has agents in both the US and Sweden. As of April 29, 2012 we are working on emails from March 1, 2012. We sincerely apologize for the delay."
#206 [01:56] <cRaCk3r87> all i want to do is run my own server i am so f........ lost:[
#207 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Did you go to http://www.minecraft.net/download and download minecraft_server.exe?
#208 [01:57] <Scott> They have that large of a backlog?
#209 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Scott - Last month, Marc, their cust service manager, said they were working on tickets from the start of the year
#210 [01:57] <Scott> That's really freaking insane.
#211 [01:57] <cRaCk3r87> what one to 207 or the other one ?????????
#212 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> cRaCk3r87 - what do you mean, what one?
#213 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> "If you're running on Windows and just want to set up a server easily, download Minecraft_Server.exe (802 KB) and run it. "
#214 [01:58] <TheBadShepperd> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/507459-i-ve-migrated-and-can-t-log-into-minecraft
#215 [01:58] <TheBadShepperd> Triggered 'forgot password's to all the emails I could think of.
#216 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do for account issues like that here.
#217 [01:59] <cRaCk3r87> so the minecraft server window poped up ?????this is new
#218 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> This is going to be something you need to figure out, from past receipts/account emails, or by submitting a ticket to Mojang for more information
#219 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> cRaCk3r87 - So now, run minecraft, connect to your server via "127.0.0.1"
#220 [01:59] <TheBadShepperd> GreyVulpine, yes, but I've fixed my issue. I just had to cheat the system a bit. ^^
#221 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Oh?
#222 [02:00] <TheBadShepperd> <TheBadShepperd> Triggered 'forgot password's to all the emails I could think of.
#223 [02:00] <TheBadShepperd> The article has a link to Mojang-account reset.
#224 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#225 [02:03] <sammaelt> damn i got scared a mob s slamming my door
#226 [02:03] <sammaelt> can it break it now
#227 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Only if you're playing on hard or above
#228 [02:03] <sammaelt> ok i think the server s on medium
#229 [02:05] <cRaCk3r87> do i need to have baught mc?
#230 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#231 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Somehow, I knew that was going to happen
#232 [02:09] <zkxs> I wish an IP could tell us a person's age... that way you could tell if young or just really, really bad grammar
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#234 [02:13] <Scott> zkxs: Assume 12 and mentally ill.
#235 [02:14] <zkxs> :P
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#238 [02:23] <sammaelt> hah Grey you knew right indeed
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#249 [03:31] <marshmont> When I do /f map and it shows me the "/" marks. Does each slash represent 1 piece of 16 x 16 claimed land?
#250 [03:32] <lemon-rev> marshmont what are you on about
#251 [03:32] <marshmont> When I do /f map and it shows me the "/" marks. Does each slash represent 1 piece of 16 x 16 claimed land?
#252 [03:32] <lemon-rev> depends on how the server is set up, the /f command i dont know about
#253 [03:33] <lemon-rev> and it should be silent
#254 [03:33] <marshmont> it's a faction command.
#255 [03:33] <marshmont> what is silent?
#256 [03:33] <lemon-rev> the /f command
#257 [03:33] <lemon-rev> any other command with the / in it is silent
#258 [03:33] <lemon-rev> ie only you the player sees it
#259 [03:33] <Silent> marshmont: Yes, each slash represents one claimed chunk (16x16)
#260 [03:34] <lemon-rev> ty silent for clearing that up
#261 [03:34] <marshmont> AH HA... silent... yes, it is silent, only I can see it.
#262 [03:35] <Silent> I had to answer since you guys pinged me 5 times this conversation.
#263 [03:35] <marshmont> also, when i claim land that is 16 x 16, does that mean that at the moment I claim it that I am standing in the middle of the 16 x 16 square?
#264 [03:35] <lemon-rev> silent i didnt ping crp but that doesnt mean you have to respond it just means that someone was trying to get attention
#265 [03:36] <marshmont> so if i want to claim up to the edge of something, then should I stand 8 blocks away from it?
#266 [03:36] <Silent> Meh I sorted it out I guess anyway.
#267 [03:36] <Silent> marshmont: No, it claims by chunk.
#268 [03:36] <marshmont> i wondered why the word silent was grey
#269 [03:37] <marshmont> so how do i know how far it is really claiming for me (left to right)
#270 [03:37] <Silent> Just claim the land you need.
#271 [03:37] <Silent> If something was left unclaimed claim that too.
#272 [03:38] <Finamenon> greyvulpine, are you familar with eclipse at all?
#273 [03:38] <marshmont> but since it claims in a 16 by 16 square (from everything I have read) I just wanted to a more exact definition of where I should stand when I claim.
#274 [03:38] <marshmont> My problem is that I am in a faction and we don't have our power up.
#275 [03:39] <marshmont> I need to be conervative in my claiming.
#276 [03:39] <Silent> If you have rei's minimap you can see chunks.
#277 [03:39] <Silent> If not, use xyz and divide by 16
#278 [03:39] <marshmont> we have a place in the sky that I need to protect, but I don't want to claim 8 blocks-worth of "sky" when I could move over 8 more blocks and be claiming ALL land.
#279 [03:40] <Silent> You cannot "move over"
#280 [03:40] <Silent> You are bound by the chunk system.
#281 [03:41] <marshmont> ah ha!!! so that's what I really need to understand then.
#282 [03:41] <marshmont> i assumed that if I stood on a chest that I wanted to protect, then I would be the center of the claimed land and have 8 blocks in all direction. This is not so?
#283 [03:42] <Silent> No.
#284 [03:42] <Silent> Again, you are bound by chunks.
#285 [03:42] <Silent> Predefined 16x16 areas
#286 [03:42] <marshmont> is there a wiki on that?
#287 [03:42] <Silent> ys, 12
#288 [03:42] <Silent> Derp
#289 [03:42] <Silent> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunks
#290 [03:43] <marshmont> hmmm... guess i could have googled it, huh? sorry..
#291 [03:43] <marshmont> thanks for the link.
#292 [03:43] <marshmont> so... one more question. My faction has Land / Power / Maxpower 61/48/80
#293 [03:44] <Silent> You are overclaimed.
#294 [03:44] <marshmont> Can someone with Land / Power / Maxpower of 0 / 10 / 10 overtake some of my land?
#295 [03:44] <marshmont> Yes, I know.... my faction members die and then don't get their power back up before logging out. GRRR.
#296 [03:45] <marshmont> one person has -7/10!!
#297 [03:45] <Silent> Kick him from the faction
#298 [03:45] <Finamenon> anyone here know how to use eclipse to compile?
#299 [03:45] <marshmont> no kidding...
#300 [03:45] <Silent> And yes they could steal 10 plos.
#301 [03:45] <Silent> plots*
#302 [03:46] <Silent> Finamenon: Ask in #risucraft
#303 [03:46] <marshmont> even tho i have more power than them, I can still lose 13 chunks right this second.
#304 [03:46] <Silent> They specialise in modding help.
#305 [03:46] <Silent> Yes.
#306 [03:46] <Finamenon> hmm well its for a plugin, but alright ILl give it a go. Thank you
#307 [03:47] <Silent> Finamenon: Bukkit plugin? Then go #bukkitdev
#308 [03:48] <Finamenon> thanks ill try there as well
#309 [03:48] <marshmont> Silent and Lemon, thank you very much for your help.
#310 [03:48] <Silent> lemon-rev kinda vanished.
#311 [03:48] <marshmont> #lsmp
#312 [03:48] <marshmont> ah... well, thank you to you. :)
#313 [03:49] <Silent> marshmont: What's #lsmp ?
#314 [03:53] <Calinou> he means #smp maybe
#315 [04:00] <Silent> lsmp is a channel.
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#319 [04:39] <zoecat> I have made a server but how do I add commands like /spawn or /sethome ?
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#321 [04:50] <zoecat> I have made a server but how do I add commands like /spawn or /sethome ?
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#330 [05:40] <Gonfred> hello eveyone
#331 [05:40] <Gonfred> i have a payment question. can anyone help me?
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#334 [05:41] <GreyVulpine> Ask your question. If somebody can answer, they might.
#335 [05:41] <Gonfred> alright, thanks
#336 [05:42] <Gonfred> I am not a player yet, because I cannot complete the payment. In the store I select "Buy Minecraft for this account" (I am logged in)
#337 [05:42] <Gonfred> Then I get to the payment options.
#338 [05:43] <lemon-rev> gonfred whats the error you get once you try to play
#339 [05:43] <lemon-rev> pay?
#340 [05:43] <Gonfred> When I select iDeal or MasterCard, and fill in the correct details I am redirected to Moneybookers
#341 [05:43] <Gonfred> It gives me:
#342 [05:44] <Gonfred> "Transaction not allowed. Wrong merchant email address!"
#343 [05:44] <Gonfred> Also, PayPal redirects me to a Swedish error message
#344 [05:44] <Wug> hmm, thats a good one. are you trying to log into moneybookers?
#345 [05:44] <lemon-rev> hm, ring your bank and see if they might be blocking the payment we have had this happen soo many times, its not funny
#346 [05:44] <Wug> lemon-rev: doesnt sound like that
#347 [05:45] <Wug> methinks hes probably mixing emails or something, depending on what step hes on
#348 [05:45] <Gonfred> Wug, I have made a Moneybookers account just to see if that solves it
#349 [05:45] <lemon-rev> ok wug
#350 [05:46] <Gonfred> I only use one email address for everything. I suspected that the code on the website might be wrong, but that would be weird
#351 [05:46] <Gonfred> there'd be more complaints then
#352 [05:46] <Gonfred> (code = Minecraft's email address)
#353 [05:47] <Gonfred> Any suggestions for me?
#354 [05:48] <Wug> Gonfred: that seems really unlikely, because as you pointed out, someone else would have noticed
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#356 [05:53] <Gonfred> Strange enough problem that there is no known solution, I see. Just my luck! :)
#357 [05:54] <Wug> I'll ask around, but you might be out of luck for a while
#358 [05:55] <Wug> you might consider sending ONE email on mojangs account troubleshooting site
#359 [05:55] <Wug> sending duplicate emails helps nobody
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#361 [06:01] <Gonfred> Thanks Wug. And I did some tech support in the past, so there won't be any duplicate mails. Thanks for the heads up though, and for the help!
#362 [06:01] <Wug> its possible that their purchase troubleshooting thingy has something to say
#363 [06:01] <Wug> you can find that here: http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#364 [06:02] <Gonfred> Okay, I'll give that a shot
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#366 [06:25] <Gonfred> Wug, seems like IE9 is the problem. Maybe a security setting. Chrome does work.
#367 [06:25] <Wug> lol
#368 [06:30] <Gonfred> So then it's time for me to run and play the game!
#369 [06:30] <Gonfred> Thanks again Wug and lemon-rev. Have a good day!
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#376 [07:51] <TheKhemist> anyone in here able to change an incorrect email address for signing up to minecraft.net? friend mistyped his email address =(
#377 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> I can help with that
#378 [07:51] <TheKhemist> can i pm you ?
#379 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> Mojang provide you with email assistance at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#380 [07:58] <TheKhemist> thx email sent
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#386 [08:59] <ClassiestMedic> !check classiestmedic.no-ip.org
#387 [08:59] <ClassiestMedic> !check classiestmedic.no-ip.org
#388 [08:59] <ClassiestMedic> hrm
#389 [08:59] <ClassiestMedic> hrm
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#391 [09:00] <Calinou> ragequit
#392 [09:00] <Calinou> :>
#393 [09:00] * Calinou puts this in "funniest quotes"
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#394 [09:08] <Boreeas> Calinou: Do you ever plan on making them public? :P
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#398 [09:29] <Calinou> Boreeas, when there will be enough
#399 [09:29] <Calinou> I have 4 quotes right now. not enough
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#401 [09:31] <Miner_> I need help with my server
#402 [09:32] <Miner_> hello?
#403 [09:32] <oldtopman> Miner_: What kind of help?
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#405 [09:42] <Miner_> Hello?
#406 [09:43] <Miner_> i need help with port forwarding
#407 [09:44] <Miner_> :D
#408 [09:45] <Miner_> 303
#409 [09:45] <Miner_> can you help me?
#410 [09:45] <WugBot> Miner_: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#411 [09:46] <Miner_> When i type ipconfig it says not recognzed as internal or external command
#412 [09:46] <Miner_> how do i fix that
#413 [09:46] <Boreeas> Try ifconfig
#414 [09:46] <Miner_> ok thanks
#415 [09:46] <Miner_> isnt working
#416 [09:47] <Boreeas> Ah well
#417 [09:47] <Boreeas> No clue about port forwarding :P
#418 [09:47] <Miner_> how do i fix it?
#419 [09:47] <puffrfish> you need to look up the instructions for your router Miner_
#420 [09:48] <Miner_> i just need ipconfig to work ._.
#421 [09:48] <Miner_> ctcp?
#422 [09:48] <Miner_> What does that mean!
#423 [09:48] <puffrfish> client to client protocol
#424 [09:48] <Miner_> router info?
#425 [09:48] <Boreeas> Hrmp
#426 [09:49] <Miner_> like brand and version?
#427 [09:49] <Boreeas> Miner_: What OS are you using?
#428 [09:49] <Miner_> PC and windows 7
#429 [09:49] <puffrfish> what do you need to do with ipconfig?
#430 [09:49] <Miner_> find my internal ip
#431 [09:49] <Boreeas> Miner_: And you type the ipconfig in the command prompt?
#432 [09:49] <Miner_> Yes
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#434 [09:50] <puffrfish> go to the start menu, type cmd, when the window pops up, type ipconfig /all
#435 [09:50] <Miner_> ok
#436 [09:51] <Miner_> not regognized as a command
#437 [09:51] <Miner_> *recognized
#438 [09:51] <puffrfish> you're either not typing it correctly, or you have some kind of parental controls set
#439 [09:51] <Miner_> i dont
#440 [09:51] <Miner_> IM TYPING
#441 [09:51] <Miner_> (sorry for caps
#442 [09:52] <TheNoodle> ??> Miner_ tv
#443 [09:52] <TheNoodle> :|
#444 [09:52] <Miner_> im typing ipconfig/all
#445 [09:52] <TheNoodle> type ipconfig /all
#446 [09:52] <TheNoodle> with the space.
#447 [09:52] <Miner_> still not recognized
#448 [09:52] <Miner_> and noodle are you watching my computer 0_0
#449 [09:52] <puffrfish> try cd \Windows\system32
#450 [09:52] <puffrfish> then try ipconfig
#451 [09:53] <Miner_> cd?
#452 [09:53] <puffrfish> change directory
#453 [09:53] <Miner_> ok
#454 [09:53] <Miner_> THANK YOU
#455 [09:53] <Miner_> It finally works!
#456 [09:53] <puffrfish> you're welcome
#457 [09:53] <Miner_> now i can have a sevrer!
#458 [09:53] <Miner_> *server!
#459 [09:55] <Miner_> now it wont let me login to my router thing >:C
#460 [09:55] <Miner_> imma see the router and look for the password
#461 [09:58] <Miner_> user:admin pass:passwor
#462 [09:58] <Miner_> *password
#463 [09:58] <Miner_> but its not working
#464 [09:58] <puffrfish> it has probably been changed
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#466 [09:59] <Miner_> how do i find it out
#467 [09:59] <puffrfish> ask whoever changed it
#468 [09:59] <Miner_> FUUUU-
#469 [09:59] <Miner_> Dangit
#470 [09:59] <Miner_> there is no other way
#471 [09:59] <Miner_> ?
#472 [10:01] <Calinou> you need to know the username/password. you need.
#473 [10:01] <Calinou> puffrfish, TIL ctcp means client to client protocol
#474 [10:01] <Calinou> :P
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#476 [10:01] <Bens_Dream> Could someone help me set up my server please?
#477 [10:03] <|Anthony|> i remember seeing a forum post somewhere (not sure if it was on bukkit or minecraft forums) about posting to get help setting up a server
#478 [10:03] <|Anthony|> i'd actually like to request some people test my server to see if things work as expected
#479 [10:03] <Bens_Dream> I can, if you like.
#480 [10:06] <|Anthony|> oh ty
#481 [10:06] <|Anthony|> there is one thing i know i need to setup first though
#482 [10:07] <|Anthony|> a default spawn point
#483 [10:07] <|Anthony|> hehe
#484 [10:07] <|Anthony|> don't want guests spawning in the middle of nowhere
#485 [10:07] <Bens_Dream> XD
#486 [10:07] <Bens_Dream> ./setspawn IIRC
#487 [10:07] <|Anthony|> yea i thin kso
#488 [10:08] <Bens_Dream> I'm a moron
#489 [10:08] <Bens_Dream> No one could connect.
#490 [10:08] <Bens_Dream> That awkward moment when you add the port but forget to enable it.
#491 [10:08] <|Anthony|> lmao
#492 [10:08] <|Anthony|> all that is setup for me... just never set default spawn
#493 [10:08] <|Anthony|> am using WorldGuard
#494 [10:08] <|Anthony|> am using WorldGuard
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#497 [10:13] <|Anthony|> ./setspawn command not found
#498 [10:13] <|Anthony|> well
#499 [10:13] <|Anthony|> /setspawn command not found
#500 [10:18] <Miner_> BLOOP
#501 [10:18] <Miner_> BLOOP
#502 [10:18] <Miner_> sorry
#503 [10:18] <Miner_> my comp lagged and sent it twi
#504 [10:18] <Miner_> *twice
#505 [10:18] <Miner_> *twice
#506 [10:18] <Miner_> UGH
#507 [10:19] <Miner_> It happened again'
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#525 [12:07] <ClassiestMedic> !check
#526 [12:08] <gdea73> I'm still having a problem with AA in Minecraft - I can't seem to find a way to disable it.
#527 [12:08] <gdea73> i.e. in Catalyst, AA is "off" (let application decide) but Minecraft acts as if it was forced AA, as shown here: http://gdea73.it.cx/img/misc/mc1.jpg
#528 [12:08] <gdea73> shoot, wrong link..
#529 [12:09] <gdea73> aha, http://gdea73.it.cx/img/misc/mc1.png
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#533 [12:11] <Calinou> gdea73, what operating system/java version?
#534 [12:12] <Calinou> try to disable "advanced opengl" in the options
#535 [12:12] <gdea73> Calinou: I'm running XP, with Java 6 Update 32.
#536 [12:13] <gdea73> I tried toggling Advanced OpenGL, but the problem persists.
#537 [12:13] <Calinou> it doesn't look like it's antialiasing
#538 [12:14] <Calinou> it looks like you're using a poor-quality z-buffer, even though that seems unlikely
#539 [12:14] <gdea73> Hmm... well I don't see any related setting in Catalyst that I can change.
#540 [12:14] <gdea73> The card is admittedly old, a Radeon 9800SE, but what's annoying is it runs Minecraft otherwise fairly well at like 30FPS.
#541 [12:15] <gdea73> here's a shot to better illustrate how the blue squares border "layers" (as in focal layers) of blocks... http://gdea73.it.cx/img/misc/mc3.png
#542 [12:15] <ClassiestMedic> What?
#543 [12:15] <ClassiestMedic> My IP changed overnight
#544 [12:16] <gdea73> Hate it when that happens. I had the same one, 24.15.196.222, for like a year and a half, and then Comcast just changed it for me once :P
#545 [12:16] <gdea73> that was a cool IP lol.
#546 [12:16] <ClassiestMedic> Ugh, yeah
#547 [12:16] <Calinou> gdea73, it has its downsides, but upsides too.
#548 [12:16] <Calinou> (*trollface*)
#549 [12:16] <ClassiestMedic> My server was working last night, but now it's broken again
#550 [12:16] * Calinou hopes you get it
#550 [12:16] <gdea73> anyway, Calinou, I've basically tried messing with every setting under 3D in Catalyst
#551 [12:17] <gdea73> lol anyway
#552 [12:17] <gdea73> I think that the driver's forcing some filter in Java and not recognizing it as a separate OpenGL game... :/
#553 [12:17] <Calinou> hmm I dunno. I only use nvidia graphic cards anyway
#554 [12:17] <Calinou> try to update your graphic drivers
#555 [12:17] <Calinou> or, downgrade them. that has been known to work
#556 [12:17] <Calinou> I heard the latest drivers are quite buggy (as usual. AMD sucks at drivers, it's a known fact)
#557 [12:17] <gdea73> I've tried downgrading already, which was a bit of a pain
#558 [12:18] <gdea73> and it didn't help at all
#559 [12:18] <Calinou> the graphical java process is "javaw.exe" by the way
#560 [12:18] <gdea73> these drivers aren't necessarily the latest anyway, for a 9800SE, I'm running Catalyst 10.
#561 [12:18] <Calinou> if you want to force something specific
#562 [12:18] <Calinou> gdea73, are you using any mods?
#563 [12:18] <Calinou> optifine has been known to cause this :P
#564 [12:18] <gdea73> I don't, I want to make sure the driver isn't forcing whatever it's doing :/
#565 [12:19] <gdea73> I actually just installed optifine to see if manually disabling *its* AA would help, but that didn't change anything.
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#567 [12:19] <ClassiestMedic> Ughhh.
#568 [12:19] * gdea73 deleted OptiFine
#568 [12:20] <Calinou> gdea73, disable "threaded optimization"
#569 [12:20] <Calinou> in your graphics card control panel
#570 [12:20] <gdea73> I'll try to find it.
#571 [12:20] <Calinou> or "opengl threading"
#572 [12:20] <Calinou> "Enable "Vertical Synchronization" in the graphics control panel or set the option Performance to VSync."
#573 [12:21] <gdea73> I have VSync completely enabled, otherwise any high resolution / maximized one would fail to render
#574 [12:22] <gdea73> here's another shot of the speckling which is apparently not only sky colored: http://gdea73.it.cx/img/misc/mc4.png
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#576 [12:22] <ClassiestMedic> This is angering me
#577 [12:23] <ClassiestMedic> Just last night, GreyVulpine helped me portforward, and now it's broken again
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#579 [12:23] <SuperMilk_> I haven't gotten my purchase information yet. What do i do?
#580 [12:25] <gdea73> ClassiestMedic: I know what you mean... though maybe you don't know what I mean, when your portforwarding doesn't work due to a loopback bug in a specific revision of DD-WRT :P
#581 [12:25] <gdea73> Calinou: I don't see any such setting...
#582 [12:25] <ClassiestMedic> I've no idea what you're talking about :P
#583 [12:26] <gdea73> there's AA, AF, Catalyst A.I., Mipmap, VSync, Adaptive AA, ...
#584 [12:26] <SuperMilk_> 3cf0d7d6a2f94f65995ee5eac8bcc733 ?
#585 [12:26] <ClassiestMedic> but last night whatismyip said 108.1.135.99, and now it says 141.154.112.131
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#587 [12:26] <ClassiestMedic> And neither of them work now
#588 [12:26] <gdea73> ClassiestMedic: well you're lucky you haven't experienced that then. DD-WRT is an open source router firmware which is awesome but occasionally buggy. And I was going insane trying to figure out why I got "no route to host" errors, then I found out that port forwarding was broken in the router until I ssh'ed a startup script into it to fix it :P
#589 [12:27] <gdea73> yeah IPs can change all the time, on dynamic / residential connections.
#590 [12:27] <ClassiestMedic> I've got two routers
#591 [12:27] <ClassiestMedic> a Netgear WRT54G and some sort of Linksys XyCel device
#592 [12:27] <gdea73> I've got 4. Active ones. :D lol
#593 [12:27] <gdea73> WRT54Gs are fun. Don't know what a XyCel is. Is that your main router?
#594 [12:28] <ClassiestMedic> It's the outermost one
#595 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> He's got an ISP-provided Xycel, it's a combination modem/router
#596 [12:28] <gdea73> ah okay
#597 [12:28] <ClassiestMedic> ^
#598 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> He's also got a Linksys WRT router connected to that. Both are doing DHCP/NAT
#599 [12:29] <ClassiestMedic> So, right now the Linksys one is forwarded to 192.168.1.45
#600 [12:29] <gdea73> oh okay. So the XyCel's a *wired* router/modem, and you use your WRT54G for a wireless AP. makes sense.
#601 [12:29] <ClassiestMedic> Sorry
#602 [12:29] <ClassiestMedic> The XyCel is forwarded to 192.168.1.45
#603 [12:29] <ClassiestMedic> and the linksys is forwarded to 192.168.2.101
#604 [12:29] <gdea73> that's its IP? okay.
#605 [12:29] <ClassiestMedic> Is that correct?
#606 [12:29] <gdea73> are those the IPs of the routers, or a port forwarding entry?
#607 [12:29] <GreyVulpine> Could you tell us? What is the current IP address of the computer?
#608 [12:29] <gdea73> what's the local IP of your server?
#609 [12:29] <gdea73> ^^ what he said lol.
#610 [12:30] <ClassiestMedic> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.101
#611 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> That seems correct.
#612 [12:30] <ClassiestMedic> Hm
#613 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> Connect to 192.168.2.1, go to the status page
#614 [12:30] <ClassiestMedic> !check
#615 [12:30] <ClassiestMedic> Okay
#616 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> What is its IP address?
#617 [12:30] <ClassiestMedic> 192.168.1.45
#618 [12:30] <GreyVulpine> That seems like it didn't change.
#619 [12:30] <gdea73> that's the WRT54Gs IP?
#620 [12:30] <ClassiestMedic> Yes
#621 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> Could you then connect to 192.168.1.1, and look at its status page?
#622 [12:31] <GreyVulpine> What IP address does it say you have there?
#623 [12:31] <gdea73> I'm trying to comprehend how a dual DHCP setup would work ... the XyCel assigns a DHCP address to the WAP, and then the AP assigns another to its client?
#624 [12:31] <ClassiestMedic> 141.154.112.131
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#626 [12:31] <ClassiestMedic> It changed overnight
#627 [12:31] <ClassiestMedic> that's what it says under WAN
#628 [12:31] <ClassiestMedic> Under LAN it's 192.168.1.1
#629 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> gdea73 - Public IP -> Xycel (192.168.1.1) -> 192.168.1.45 (Linksys) -> 192.168.2.1 (linksys) -> Computers
#630 [12:32] <gdea73> Two linksys routers?
#631 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> No
#632 [12:32] <gdea73> oh. oh right sorry.
#633 [12:32] <gdea73> no that makes sense.
#634 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> The 192.168.1.45 address is the address assigned to linksys from xycel
#635 [12:32] <GreyVulpine> The 192.168.2.1 is Linksys's router
#636 [12:33] <gdea73> oh so that's its client address, though it's accessible (webgui) from 192.168.2.1, to *its* clients
#637 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Right
#638 [12:33] <gdea73> alright
#639 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> ClassiestMedic - Is the server running?
#640 [12:33] <ClassiestMedic> Yes
#641 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> ;check ClassiestMedic
#642 [12:33] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: pool-141-154-112-131.bstnma.btas.verizon.net:25565 (Timed out)
#643 [12:33] <GreyVulpine> Huh, strange...
#644 [12:34] <gdea73> Calinou: I still couldn't find a "threaded optimization" setting anywhere in Catalyst 10 (or 9 for that matter)...
#645 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Even if the public IP changed, the port forwarding rules should still work.
#646 [12:34] <Calinou> :/
#647 [12:34] <ClassiestMedic> !check
#648 [12:34] <ClassiestMedic> Aha
#649 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> What..
#650 [12:34] <ClassiestMedic> I believe it was Bukkit
#651 [12:34] <ClassiestMedic> I had installed Bukkit
#652 [12:35] <ClassiestMedic> However, I just tried it vanilla and it worked
#653 [12:35] <ClassiestMedic> Interesting
#654 [12:35] <gdea73> that's odd.
#655 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> They.. should basically be the same
#656 [12:35] <gdea73> was Bukkit configured weirdly?
#657 [12:35] <ClassiestMedic> Not sure
#658 [12:35] <gdea73> sure it was still on port 25565? well maybe reset the config file and see if Bukkit works again.
#659 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> They both use 25565 for a default port
#660 [12:35] <ClassiestMedic> Yeah, I know not to change the port
#661 [12:35] <ClassiestMedic> !check
#662 [12:35] <GreyVulpine> Unless you've got some sort of software firewall that's letting in traffic from vanilla, and not bukkit..
#663 [12:36] <gdea73> I'd think so, and since you say you didn't change it, I don't know
#664 [12:36] <ClassiestMedic> Interesting
#665 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> That's really the only thing I can think of
#666 [12:36] <gdea73> it's not giving you a failed to bind to port error or anything?
#667 [12:36] <ClassiestMedic> Nope
#668 [12:36] <gdea73> yeah a firewall would make sense...
#669 [12:36] <gdea73> what OS are you running?
#670 [12:36] <GreyVulpine> Windows 7, if I remember correctly
#671 [12:36] <ClassiestMedic> 7 Home Premium x64
#672 [12:37] <ClassiestMedic> I'm looking through Windows Firewall, since I'm in between switching virus software
#673 [12:37] <gdea73> okay, make sure that there's a firewall exception for the Bukkit server. You may have already "allowed" outgoing traffic from the minecraft_server.jar file, but you may need to make another exception for Bukkit.
#674 [12:37] <gdea73> it's been a while since I set up an MC server on Windows though...
#675 [12:37] <ClassiestMedic> Yeah
#676 [12:37] <ClassiestMedic> There's nothing under B
#677 [12:38] <ClassiestMedic> Okay
#678 [12:38] <ClassiestMedic> Just allowed it
#679 [12:38] <ClassiestMedic> !check
#680 [12:38] <ClassiestMedic> Hrm
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#682 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Did you allow bukkit, or did you allow the port through the firewall?
#683 [12:39] <ClassiestMedic> Well
#684 [12:39] <Calinou> forwarded the port in TCP?
#685 [12:39] <Calinou> you don't have to forward the port in UDP
#686 [12:39] <ClassiestMedic> Went to start menu
#687 [12:39] <GreyVulpine> Yes he did
#688 [12:40] <ClassiestMedic> Allow a program through windows firewall
#689 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> The server works under vanilla, apparently doesn't work through bukkit
#690 [12:40] <ClassiestMedic> Navigated to the bukkit server .exe
#691 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Don't. Try allowing the port
#692 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> Use port 25565 as a definition for windows firewall
#693 [12:40] <ClassiestMedic> I don't see an option for that
#694 [12:40] <Calinou> .exe...
#695 [12:40] <Calinou> bukkit doesn't come up as an .exe, only a .jar file
#696 [12:40] <gdea73> ah right port exceptions would be more universal, make more sense.
#697 [12:40] <ClassiestMedic> Outbound rules?
#698 [12:40] <GreyVulpine> inbound
#699 [12:40] <ClassiestMedic> ok
#700 [12:41] <ClassiestMedic> Made a rule for both TCp and UDP
#701 [12:41] <ClassiestMedic> !check
#702 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Is bukkit actually working?
#703 [12:42] <ClassiestMedic> Yeah
#704 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Could you pastebin the log file for bukkit?
#705 [12:42] <GreyVulpine> Use www.pastebin.com
#706 [12:42] <ClassiestMedic> Yeah
#707 [12:43] <ClassiestMedic> http://pastebin.com/AFLVU2JT
#708 [12:43] <ClassiestMedic> No plugins
#709 [12:43] <GreyVulpine> Everything looks right...
#710 [12:44] <ClassiestMedic> There are a few other rules for Minecraft_Server.exe, should I delete those and replace them with the two port rules?
#711 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> I never really bother with program definitions for Windows firewall. For the most part, windows firewall doesn't block MC server traffic. When it does, program definitions don't work, since MC runs off of java, and you typically need to allow both
#712 [12:45] <ClassiestMedic> hm, k
#713 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> Which is why I usually just go straight to port definitions
#714 [12:45] <GreyVulpine> This generally works better for any firewall solution I see on a computer
#715 [12:47] <ClassiestMedic> Hm
#716 [12:47] <ClassiestMedic> Wellp
#717 [12:48] <ClassiestMedic> When in doubt, reinstall Bukkit
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#719 [12:52] <gdea73> gahh I can't stand this stupid OpenGL glitch and Catalyst 10. I'm going to downgrade to an even obsolete-r version and see what happens.
#720 [12:53] <ClassiestMedic> Same problem!
#721 [12:53] <ClassiestMedic> Bizarre
#722 [12:53] <ClassiestMedic> Another question
#723 [12:53] <gdea73> yes?
#724 [12:53] <ClassiestMedic> Since my IP seems to be not static
#725 [12:54] <ClassiestMedic> How would I go about appending it to one of those no-ip addresses?
#726 [12:54] <Calinou> gdea73, anyway, you could downgrade to any version that supports opengl 1.2 :P
#727 [12:54] <Calinou> MC doesn't use any opengl 2.0 features (except for the CPU-eating "advanced opengl")
#728 [12:54] <gdea73> use a dynamic DNS service. Like FreeDNS. Then you configure your router to "tell" OpenDNS to change the hostname to your new IP when it changes
#729 [12:54] <gdea73> Calinou: alright, Catalyst 8.12 here we go...
#730 [12:54] <ClassiestMedic> mk
#731 [12:54] <Calinou> also... you have to reboot I guess :P
#732 [12:55] <gdea73> uh yeah I will
#733 [12:55] <gdea73> well, between uninstalling and reinstalling? maybe that's better. okay.
#734 [12:56] <Grim_Reaper> ;kick Grim_Reaper test
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#737 [12:56] <gdea73> I didn't think XP usuallly had such annoying driver problems. Win9x and Win2K, all the time, but not usually XP :P
#738 [12:56] <Grim_Reaper> She's a working
#739 [12:56] <gdea73> Grim_Reaper: did you set that up in the event of ping timeouts? that would be useful...
#740 [12:57] <Grim_Reaper> Naa. Im just testing if I still have access to WugBot's kick command
#741 [12:57] <Grim_Reaper> Besides I kick wont do anything. Would need to /kill :p
#742 [12:58] <gdea73> oh lol ok
#743 [12:58] <gdea73> I thought you were testing whether you would rejoin automatically after being kicked ;)
#744 [12:58] <Grim_Reaper> Naa :3
#745 [13:00] <gdea73> crap, sounds like my hard drive is eating itself while installing Adobe Reader... don't know why but those 20GB drives are ALWAYS the loudest. Not 8GB, not 10GB, etc. I have several WD200s and they're so annoying lol. Now granted I got them $2 each.
#746 [13:00] <Grim_Reaper> Why are you using such a small hd o.o
#747 [13:00] <gdea73> Because it was $2 :D
#748 [13:00] <Grim_Reaper> But..
#749 [13:00] <gdea73> ... and those are what I have extras of. I was building this P4 for my friend who wants a desktop that can sort of play Minecraft.
#750 [13:01] <Grim_Reaper> lol p-p
#751 [13:01] <gdea73> He's got a laptop that's far better than this desktop, but its graphics are terrible, so he wanted this one. And it was missing a hard drive when I got it, so, ah well
#752 [13:02] <gdea73> I like small mediums (media?) of data storage. What if I want to store exactly one avatar-sized JPG file on a disk? Why would I use a 2GB USB flash drive? Floppy disks FTW! XD
#753 [13:02] * Grim_Reaper facepalms
#753 [13:03] <gdea73> that's the typical response, lol.
#754 [13:03] <gdea73> I mean for the sake of massive consolidated storage, large individual disks and drives make sense.
#755 [13:03] <Grim_Reaper> I can see it now
#756 [13:03] <Grim_Reaper> You carrying 500 floppdisk's to show your 500 JPG files
#757 [13:04] <gdea73> lol yep
#758 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> When you could easily just use a big hdd, and store 10x that and still have plenty of space on ONE object ;-;
#759 [13:04] <gdea73> well basically I just like to hold on to useless computer stuff because I feel like if it were 15 years ago I'd be like controlling a technology empire XD
#760 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#761 [13:04] <gdea73> It's not just storage. I really need to get rid of my PCI video cards. XP
#762 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#763 [13:05] <gdea73> And my Apple IIGS. I couldn't get my Dell to write the 700K floppies necessary to install its OS, so it runs ProDOS or something for now rofl
#764 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#765 [13:06] <gdea73> well anyway... haha
#766 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> ClassiestMedic - Look up a service like no-ip.org or dyndns.org
#767 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> They provide free subdomain hosting at subdomain.no-ip.org or subdomain.dyndns.org
#768 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Hosting, as in just the DNS entry, not actual hosting
#769 [13:08] <gdea73> Really, ATi? A WoW free trial in my driver installation? I just lost a lot of respect for you...
#770 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#771 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> I'll take it >_>
#772 [13:10] <gdea73> lol, just download Catalyst 8.12. I wonder how many years that's been expired. Probably 2. But still. :P
#773 [13:10] <Grim_Reaper> If olive oil is made of crushed olives. What is baby oil made of? Or virgin oil
#774 [13:18] <ClassiestMedic> aHA
#775 [13:18] <ClassiestMedic> It works!
#776 [13:18] <Grim_Reaper> thats what she said
#777 [13:18] <ClassiestMedic> :3
#778 [13:18] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#779 [13:18] <ClassiestMedic> I used the automatic bukkit installer
#780 [13:18] <ClassiestMedic> Now the server is up!
#781 [13:18] <ClassiestMedic> Would someone be willing to test it?
#782 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> gratz
#783 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> try !check
#784 [13:19] <ClassiestMedic> I did
#785 [13:19] <ClassiestMedic> My friend says he can't connect though
#786 [13:19] <ClassiestMedic> 141.154.112.131
#787 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> !check 141.154.112.131
#788 [13:20] <ClassiestMedic> Okay!
#789 [13:20] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm. He should be
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#795 [13:27] <a1rnub> I updated minecraft from 1.1 to 1.2.3 quite some time ago. And I converted my MP map. I made a backup of it but I went back to 1.1 because I couldn't find any plugins. So I continued playing on the same map. But when I finally found plugins for the 1.2.3 server I couldn't find any of the things we had built in 1.1.
#796 [13:27] <a1rnub> How do I make my map work in the later versions of minecraft?
#797 [13:27] <a1rnub> And still be able to find everything we built
#798 [13:29] <Calinou> did you copy the world folder so it is actually used?
#799 [13:29] <Calinou> are you sure your world isn't corrupt?
#800 [13:30] <a1rnub> It's not corrupt
#801 [13:30] <a1rnub> I can still find the things we built before I updated
#802 [13:31] <a1rnub> But the stuff we built after we updated is not visible in 1.2.3 or later
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#804 [13:38] <a1rnub> I've been trying to find a solution for ages. But nobody seems to be able to help me in any way
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#806 [13:40] <Calinou> a1rnub, see http://mcsaver.net
#807 [13:40] <Calinou> maybe he'll help you
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#810 [13:48] <Floris> Hi
#811 [13:49] <Floris> Help
#812 [13:49] <Floris> Omg
#813 [13:49] <Calinou> hi?
#814 [13:49] <Calinou> don't ask to ask
#815 [13:49] <Floris> Someone online?
#816 [13:49] <Calinou> Floris, yes...
#817 [13:49] <Floris> Thanks
#818 [13:50] <Calinou> this is IRC: do not use enter as punctuation, expect people to be sometimes away
#819 [13:50] <Calinou> feel free to ask your question, we don't bite :P
#820 [13:51] <Floris> How does the new books work? Can you write in it? And on servers, if you throw it out of your bag, will the person who recieves it read the text you wrote?
#821 [13:52] <Floris> ...
#822 [13:52] <Floris> Andd, does cactii grow at any light level?
#823 [13:52] <Calinou> cacti grows at any light level, yes
#824 [13:52] <Calinou> you can write in the new books. it requires a new crafting recipe
#825 [13:52] <Floris> And mushrooms
#826 [13:53] <Floris> Nvm
#827 [13:53] <Calinou> mushrooms require darkness to spread. they spread on any opaque, solid blocks
#828 [13:53] <Calinou> this means they don't spread to slabs or glass, as an example
#829 [13:53] <Calinou> also, see the wiki about books: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Book_and_quill
#830 [13:53] <Floris> Does netherwart grow faster next to lava?
#831 [13:54] <Calinou> and yes, the content of those books is saved. you can give it to other players, they can read it
#832 [13:54] <Calinou> Floris, maybe, not 100% sure. there have been claims of this happening, though
#833 [13:54] <Calinou> maybe you can try using torches, since it's another light source.
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#835 [13:55] <Floris> How to make a section sign?
#836 [13:56] <Calinou> on azerty keyboards, you hold the "shift" key then press the "!" key
#837 [13:56] <Floris> And qwerty?
#838 [13:56] <Calinou> you can also paste it: �
#839 [13:56] <Calinou> select it, then copy it, then you can paste it :P
#840 [13:56] <Calinou> on qwerty, I don't know.
#841 [13:56] <Floris> But
#842 [13:56] <Floris> Oh
#843 [13:56] <Calinou> on windows there's a "character table" tool
#844 [13:56] <Calinou> you'll find it there
#845 [13:56] <Floris> In ios too
#846 [13:57] <Calinou> you can't enter a section sign in chat (if you do this using a mod, the server kicks you anyway)
#847 [13:57] <Calinou> but you can paste it in a book to add colors and formatting
#848 [13:57] <Calinou> and using map editors, you can also create colored signs
#849 [13:57] <Floris> Can you have tnt in PE?
#850 [13:57] <Calinou> the TNT doesn't do anything in pocket edition, as far as I know
#851 [13:57] <Floris> It does
#852 [13:57] <Floris> It has no sound
#853 [13:57] <Floris> But destroys the terrain
#854 [13:58] <Floris> And there is something wrong in PE
#855 [13:58] <Floris> Glass sounds are from wool
#856 [13:59] <Calinou> the pocket edition isn't made from the computer version, so yeah, it has its specific bugs.
#857 [13:59] <Calinou> it's coded in a different programming language too
#858 [13:59] <Floris> You can have tnt in pe?
#859 [13:59] <Floris> But how
#860 [13:59] <Floris> I saw it on YT
#861 [13:59] <Calinou> in creative mode?
#862 [13:59] <Floris> No in survival
#863 [13:59] <Calinou> you probably can't then
#864 [14:00] <Floris> In creative you dont have
#865 [14:00] <Calinou> that's probably a mod/texture pack
#866 [14:00] <Calinou> or just some joke
#867 [14:00] <Floris> And with jailbreak?
#868 [14:00] <Calinou> just a joke. 99% chance
#869 [14:00] <Floris> Uhm, im goona check
#870 [14:00] <Floris> Iam on ipad right now
#871 [14:00] <Floris> Brb
#872 [14:01] <Calinou> I have to go for now - if you have any questions, just stay around - don't leave, there may be other users replyng
#873 [14:01] <Floris> Nope no tnt
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#875 [14:01] <Floris> But i hacked like on YT :D
#876 [14:01] <Floris> No joke
#877 [14:01] <Floris> Just change hex
#878 [14:02] <Floris> 2d to 2e (hex for tnt)
#879 [14:02] <Floris> Someone there?
#880 [14:03] <Boreeas> Yes, what do you need?
#881 [14:03] <Floris> Yeey
#882 [14:03] <Floris> Why am i banned on the #minecraft? I didnt say anything...
#883 [14:04] <Floris> Just. Started banned...
#884 [14:04] <zkxs> You have to register with NickServ
#885 [14:04] <Boreeas> Give me a second to retrieve the ban list
#886 [14:04] <Boreeas> You are muted by default, though
#887 [14:04] <Floris> Ah
#888 [14:05] <Floris> But, something else
#889 [14:05] <Boreeas> That's not a ban, and you get out of it by registering your nick. /ns help register
#890 [14:05] <Floris> How to add texturepacks on PE with jailbreak?
#891 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#892 [14:05] <Boreeas> Ban is "unable to join channel", mute is "unable to talk in channel"
#893 [14:05] <Floris> Well ive got an ipad
#894 [14:05] <Floris> And it siad im banned
#895 [14:06] <Grim_Reaper> Floris. It's just an error. Simply register with nickserv
#896 [14:06] <Grim_Reaper> There is no ban on your nick
#897 [14:06] <Grim_Reaper> Just /ns register pass realemailhere
#898 [14:06] <Floris> First i was flowmotion
#899 [14:06] <Grim_Reaper> And you can then /ns identify yourpass here each time you use Floris as a nick and talk in #minecrafthelp
#900 [14:06] <Grim_Reaper> If you were banned on the channel, you would NOT be able to join it
#901 [14:06] <Floris> Wrird
#902 [14:06] <Floris> ...
#903 [14:07] <Floris> Weird
#904 [14:07] <Floris> How to add texturepacks on PE with jailbreak?
#905 [14:07] <Floris> Oh i know now
#906 [14:07] <Floris> Thx
#907 [14:07] <Floris> ...
#908 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> I hope you actually paid for minecraft ._.
#909 [14:07] <Floris> I did
#910 [14:08] <Floris> Pe and normal
#911 [14:08] <Floris> 24,99€ :D
#912 [14:08] <Floris> Oh wait
#913 [14:08] <Floris> 24,98€ ^_^
#914 [14:08] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#915 [14:09] <Floris> Wait a sec, it was 5,49 no 4,99...
#916 [14:09] <Floris> My IQ is 144 :)
#917 [14:09] <Boreeas> …
#918 [14:10] <Floris> I need a good site for furniture in minecraft
#919 [14:10] <Boreeas> Besides the fact that there is no single standard for IQ measurement, I severely doubt that.
#920 [14:10] <Floris> The average is 130
#921 [14:11] <Boreeas> THe average is 100
#922 [14:11] <Floris> Iam on a special school
#923 [14:11] <Floris> I did 2 tests
#924 [14:11] <Boreeas> I don't doubt that
#925 [14:11] <Floris> Lets talk about minecraft
#926 [14:12] <Floris> Iam on an ipad so. Im switching sometimes..
#927 [14:12] <Floris> Trying to get a texturepack on pe
#928 [14:14] <Floris> Im instLling it now
#929 [14:18] <Floris> Woo ive got the ocd texturepack on pe! :D yeey
#930 [14:21] <Floris> Someone there?
#931 [14:21] <Floris> 163 users online but noone is really online :(
#932 [14:22] * Grim_Reaper listens to nothing but the crickets as silence fills the channel
#932 [14:22] <Floris> Ive got a texture pack!
#933 [14:22] <Floris> U too?
#934 [14:22] <Eddie> <Floris> My IQ is 144 :)
#935 [14:22] <Eddie> Says the ONLINE IQ test?
#936 [14:22] <Eddie> Also IQ tests are not reliable in calculating intelligence.
#937 [14:22] <Floris> I did IRL
#938 [14:23] <Eddie> You may be intelligent, but someone with a lower IQ is not necessarily less intelligent.
#939 [14:23] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#940 [14:23] <Floris> Ik
#941 [14:23] <Floris> But i get things faster
#942 [14:23] <Grim_Reaper> IQ tests are for people who want to make themselves feel the most clever
#943 [14:23] <Floris> ...
#944 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> Yet a person who has never gone to school, can make something amazingly, that saves his own town (cant remember what his name was)
#945 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> But he made an invention
#946 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> And it was in some rural country
#947 [14:24] <Floris> Iam dutch
#948 [14:24] <Floris> But
#949 [14:24] <Grim_Reaper> He never had any schooling
#950 [14:24] <Floris> Ehm
#951 [14:24] <Floris> Ive installed a texture pack!
#952 [14:24] <Floris> Am i grwat
#953 [14:24] <Floris> Great?
#954 [14:24] <Floris> I think. Noona has
#955 [14:25] <Floris> Jeez, ipad
#956 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> Texture packs not for me
#957 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> They're cool and all
#958 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> But I dont mind the default graphics
#959 [14:25] <Grim_Reaper> Its what makes minecraft, minecraft
#960 [14:25] <Floris> Ik like texturepack called 'default' the most
#961 [14:25] <Floris> But ive installed a texturepack!
#962 [14:26] <Floris> Am i great?
#963 [14:26] <Floris> Without help
#964 [14:26] <Floris> I think you cant
#965 [14:26] <Floris> Hehehe
#966 [14:26] <Floris> Iam awesome
#967 [14:27] <Floris> I hear. I hear.
#968 [14:27] <Floris> Crickets! Omg they're attacking me!
#969 [14:28] <Floris> Omgomg
#970 [14:28] <Floris> I like creepers on pe
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#972 [14:28] <Floris> They dont explode
#973 [14:28] <Floris> Su?
#974 [14:28] <Floris> Hi
#975 [14:28] <su> hi
#976 [14:29] <Floris> :)
#977 [14:29] <Floris> Ive installed a texturepack
#978 [14:29] <Floris> Am i great?
#979 [14:29] <Floris> Am i awesome?
#980 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> I've never seen somebody.. this excited over installing a texture pack .-.
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#982 [14:33] <zkxs> Your awesomeness is the limit of x^2 / e^x as x approaches infinity
#983 [14:33] <Floris> Its on pe
#984 [14:33] <Floris> Texturepack on pe!
#985 [14:34] <Floris> Awesomeeeee
#986 [14:35] <Floris> Wysoquiet?
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#988 [14:44] <Frubskebab> Please say something
#989 [14:46] <Eddie> That was worthy of a kick
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#991 [14:47] <Eddie> I can do it now
#992 [14:47] <Eddie> !kick Floris
#993 [14:47] * AuBot kicked Floris from #minecrafthelp (Reason: loris :Uh oh! Looks like someone should have read the rules! (Issued by Eddie with reason: None given.))
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#995 [14:48] <Eddie> Hello
#996 [14:48] <Floris> Why u did that?
#997 [14:48] <Eddie> That was for changing your nick too many times.
#998 [14:48] <Floris> can i do that too?
#999 [14:48] <Eddie> Do what?
#1000 [14:48] <Floris> !kick Eddie
#1001 [14:48] <Floris> ...
#1002 [14:48] <Eddie> >:(
#1003 [14:49] <Floris> How u did that?
#1004 [14:49] <Eddie> Because... I'm supposed to be voiced. lol
#1005 [14:50] <Eddie> !voice Eddie
#1006 [14:52] <Eddie> Someone should either voice me or remove my flags.
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#1008 [14:52] <Morrolan> AuBot is using a separate whitelist I think.
#1009 [14:52] <Morrolan> If you want to get off it, poke Kealper. ;)
#1010 [14:53] <zkxs> wait... I'm voiced. Does that mean I have !kick? I was under the impression that the bot perms were separate...
#1011 [14:53] <Morrolan> They are.
#1012 [14:53] <Morrolan> Feel free to try whether you are on the bot's whitelist though. :)
#1013 [14:53] <zkxs> !kick zkxs
#1014 [14:53] <zkxs> !k zkxs
#1015 [14:53] <zkxs> :3
#1016 [14:54] <Morrolan> I thought if you were lacking perms it used to kick you, guess that changed.
#1017 [14:54] <Floris> Gow can eddie kick me?
#1018 [14:54] <Floris> How*
#1019 [14:54] <Morrolan> Through AuBot.
#1020 [14:54] <Eddie> Because I'm wearing boots.
#1021 [14:54] <Floris> Aubot?
#1022 [14:54] <zkxs> ?? aubot
#1023 [14:54] <Morrolan> A bot.
#1024 [14:55] * Morrolan hugs AuBot
#1024 [14:55] <Morrolan> ^ that one
#1025 [14:55] <zkxs> Huh, vox isn't here
#1026 [14:55] <Floris> ?
#1027 [14:55] <Floris> Omg
#1028 [14:55] <Floris> Hoe
#1029 [14:55] <Floris> How
#1030 [14:55] <Eddie> Floris is fascinated.
#1031 [14:55] <Floris> Woth
#1032 [14:55] <Floris> How did u do that eddie
#1033 [14:55] <Floris> The red message
#1034 [14:55] <Eddie> lol.
#1035 [14:55] <Floris> Or what is was
#1036 [14:55] <Morrolan> He used the bot to kick you, still.
#1037 [14:55] <Floris> How
#1038 [14:55] <Floris> How
#1039 [14:56] <zkxs> Floris
#1040 [14:56] <Floris> Omg zkxs
#1041 [14:56] <Floris> How did u send that messagw?
#1042 [14:56] <Floris> Im new to irc
#1043 [14:56] <zkxs> Do you notice a pattern, Floris?
#1044 [14:56] <Floris> Its ot a normal message right?
#1045 [14:56] <Floris> And ne pattern
#1046 [14:56] <Morrolan> I do start to notice one though.
#1047 [14:56] <Floris> What you mean?
#1048 [14:56] <zkxs> It is a normal message
#1049 [14:57] <Floris> ?
#1050 [14:57] <Floris> ????
#1051 [14:57] <Floris> Its red on my ipad client
#1052 [14:57] <Morrolan> Because he mentioned your name.
#1053 [14:58] <Morrolan> Which makes most clients highlight those messages.
#1054 [14:58] <Floris> Oh
#1055 [14:58] <Floris> But how can eddie kick me?
#1056 [14:58] <Floris> I want to kick him back
#1057 [14:58] <Eddie> Oh no you won't
#1058 [14:58] <Floris> ...
#1059 [14:58] <Floris> How??
#1060 [14:59] <Morrolan> Floris, maybe you really are as clueless as you say you are, but I think you are pretending.
#1061 [14:59] <Floris> .
#1062 [14:59] <Floris> Woth
#1063 [14:59] <Morrolan> For the last time, he used a bot because he has got access to that one.
#1064 [14:59] <Floris> Im new
#1065 [14:59] <Eddie> <Floris> My IQ is 144 :)
#1066 [14:59] <Floris> ...
#1067 [14:59] <Eddie> I am starting to think the opposite of what I said as well.
#1068 [14:59] <Eddie> ^.^
#1069 [15:00] <Morrolan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFVy2LJuEDw&feature=g-u-u <- cute
#1070 [15:00] <Floris> How to do 'hugs aubot'
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#1072 [15:00] <Morrolan> "/me <action>"
#1073 [15:00] * Floris hugs aubot
#1073 [15:00] <Floris> Yeey
#1074 [15:00] * Floris likes aubot
#1074 [15:01] <Floris> Woo
#1075 [15:01] * Floris aubot
#1075 [15:01] <Floris> ...
#1076 [15:01] * Floris wugs wugbot
#1076 [15:01] <Floris> ...
#1077 [15:02] * Floris Likes greybot
#1077 [15:02] <Floris> He doesnt like me
#1078 [15:02] <Morrolan> Not every bot reacts to such actions, Floris.
#1079 [15:02] <Morrolan> Or maybe they don't like you, yea.
#1080 [15:02] * Floris ........... Aubot
#1080 [15:02] <Floris> Lol
#1081 [15:03] * Floris likes all
#1081 [15:03] <Floris>
#1082 [15:04] * Floris thinks nobody can say this exept aubot
#1082 [15:04] <Floris> How to control aubot
#1083 [15:05] <Floris> Hi aubot
#1084 [15:05] * Floris !kick aubot
#1084 [15:05] <Floris> Oohhh
#1085 [15:05] <Morrolan> You? You can't control it.
#1086 [15:05] <Floris> Whyyy
#1087 [15:05] <Morrolan> You didn't send us the required payment yet. *shrug*
#1088 [15:07] * Floris Doesnt need to pay>>> aubot
#1088 [15:07] <Floris> :)
#1089 [15:08] * Floris aubot aubot aubot aubot
#1089 [15:09] * Aubot_ aubot!
#1089 [15:09] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
#1089 [15:09] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#1089 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1090 [15:10] <aubot_> Xgmxghmstyjstyuyjxghmxfhrthsrtysryjsthmdty fufjsryjsthmx
#1091 [15:10] <Morrolan> Yeeea.
#1092 [15:10] <Morrolan> I'd prefer it if your statements made some kind of sense.
#1093 [15:11] <aubot_> I hacked minecraft PE
#1094 [15:12] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#1095 [15:12] <aubot_> Sooo
#1096 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#1097 [15:12] <aubot_> Ive got tnt
#1098 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> Somebody is REAAALY bored
#1099 [15:13] <aubot_> And a texture pack!
#1100 [15:13] <aubot_> .\/.
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#1103 [15:15] <Floris> Like it?
#1104 [15:15] <AikarLaptop> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/aikar/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: /home/aikar/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
#1105 [15:15] <Floris> Wtf
#1106 [15:16] <AikarLaptop> what causes this error?
#1107 [15:16] <AikarLaptop> I have glxgears working undeer noveuo (nvidia drivers are being weird for me on this laptop)
#1108 [15:17] <AikarLaptop> but mc is black screening with that
#1109 [15:17] <Floris> Do an update
#1110 [15:17] <AikarLaptop> i did
#1111 [15:17] <Floris> Force update
#1112 [15:17] <AikarLaptop> this is a fresh install
#1113 [15:17] <Floris> Hm
#1114 [15:18] <Floris> Im 13
#1115 [15:18] <AikarLaptop> is it incorrectly thinking im 32bit?
#1116 [15:18] <Floris> ..
#1117 [15:19] <Floris> I think you are
#1118 [15:19] <AikarLaptop> it is*
#1119 [15:19] <Morrolan> AikarLaptop - Not sure about this specific issue, but googling for "wrong ELF class ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause architecture word width mismatch)" brings up quite a number of results.
#1120 [15:19] <AikarLaptop> I have no part in making it think im 32bit :P
#1121 [15:19] <Morrolan> Any luck with one of the solutions linked there?
#1122 [15:20] <AikarLaptop> ok let me try looking
#1123 [15:20] <AikarLaptop> oh and i am on openjdk7, but it works fine on my desktop
#1124 [15:21] <Morrolan> You might want to try sun's java 6.
#1125 [15:21] <Floris> Yep
#1126 [15:21] <Morrolan> open java likes to mess with Minecraft every now and then, and so does Java 7.
#1127 [15:21] <Floris> Java.com
#1128 [15:21] <Morrolan> Then again, open java 7 works just fine on my laptop, so it might not be the issue in your case.
#1129 [15:22] <AikarLaptop> yeah ima try openjdk6 first, then ill resort to sun's
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#1131 [15:22] <AikarLaptop> but ojdk7 has worked flawlessly on my ubuntu desktop
#1132 [15:22] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#1133 [15:22] <Floris> But did it work with minecraft?
#1134 [15:22] <AikarLaptop> but ive heard 7 is hit or miss with people
#1135 [15:22] <gunther> Can anyone give me a PayPal Donate Script?
#1136 [15:22] <AikarLaptop> yes for desktop :P
#1137 [15:23] <gunther> me?
#1138 [15:23] <AikarLaptop> no, paypal generates the code for you
#1139 [15:23] <Morrolan> gunther - You'll have to create one of those buttons yourself, there's a link somewhere in your PayPal profile.
#1140 [15:23] <Morrolan> Check the "Email link" it gives you, that's the one you want if it's for a forum.
#1141 [15:24] <gunther> ok
#1142 [15:25] <AikarLaptop> openjdk6 worked
#1143 [15:25] <Morrolan> AikarLaptop - Good to hear. :)
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#1145 [15:26] <Floris> Ive blew up my server
#1146 [15:26] <Morrolan> blown. :)
#1147 [15:27] <Floris> Im dutch
#1148 [15:27] <Morrolan> Doesn't mean you can't learn, does it. :)
#1149 [15:27] <Floris> Im 13
#1150 [15:27] <Morrolan> Doesn't mean you can't learn, does it. :)
#1151 [15:27] <Boreeas> [21:27:10] Morrolan Doesn't mean you can't learn, does it.
#1152 [15:27] <Floris> ...
#1153 [15:27] <Boreeas> Ninja
#1154 [15:27] <Floris> Omfg
#1155 [15:27] <Floris> Boreeas
#1156 [15:27] <Floris> Where do you live?
#1157 [15:28] <Boreeas> Why do you care?
#1158 [15:28] <Floris> Ive got the same time
#1159 [15:28] <Boreeas> Yeah, and one 24th of the world has the same time, too
#1160 [15:28] <Floris> Pwam pwam pwam
#1161 [15:28] <Floris> Which land?
#1162 [15:28] <Morrolan> Means you two live, at most, half the outline of the world away from each other. :D
#1163 [15:29] <Floris> ....................
#1164 [15:29] <Floris> Boreeas:
#1165 [15:29] <Floris> Where
#1166 [15:29] <Boreeas> Morrolan: That is true for any two persons :P
#1167 [15:29] <Morrolan> circumference*
#1168 [15:29] <Morrolan> Yes, yes it is. :D
#1169 [15:30] <Floris> *･゜ﾟ･*:.｡..｡.:*･'(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)'･*:.｡. .｡.:*･゜ﾟ･*
#1170 [15:31] <Floris> (( _ _ ))..zzzZZ
#1171 [15:32] <Floris> Burp
#1172 [15:32] <Floris> （；゜０゜）
#1173 [15:32] <Floris> 。
#1174 [15:32] <Morrolan> Try to turn down on the useless spam a bit.
#1175 [15:32] <Floris> Jfjfjffjfjfjfjjffjfjjffjfjfjjfffjjfjfjffjjfjffjfj
#1176 [15:33] * Morrolan kicked Floris from #minecrafthelp (Reason: loris :Enough)
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#1178 [15:33] <Floris> Hellooo
#1179 [15:36] <Floris> Wazaaaaaa
#1180 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> Oh gosh thank you
#1181 [15:36] <Morrolan> Oh, permission to mute came too late I suppose.
#1182 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1183 [15:36] <Boreeas> I prefer it this way, anyways
#1184 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1185 [15:41] <Eddie> :D
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#1189 [15:53] <titegtnodI> Where's VoxelHead? o.o
#1190 [15:53] <TheNoodle> ^
#1191 [15:53] <Grim_Reaper> he..
#1192 [15:53] <Grim_Reaper> Well theres no easy way to say it
#1193 [15:53] <Grim_Reaper> But.. he died
#1194 [15:53] <titegtnodI> :O
#1195 [15:54] <titegtnodI> :'(
#1196 [15:54] <titegtnodI> </3
#1197 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> ;-;
#1198 [15:54] <titegtnodI> B-but I can't live without VoxelHead!
#1199 [15:55] <TheNoodle> :'(
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#1201 [16:14] <NinjaKirby> Minecraft Survival (SMP or SSP), has me completely spent, I'm officially declaring it.
#1202 [16:15] <NinjaKirby> Not that anyone cares, and this isn't even the right channel, but I had to say it.
#1203 [16:15] <NinjaKirby> Map building is the future.
#1204 [16:20] <sammaelt> hello
#1205 [16:21] <sammaelt> you dont want to play anymore on survival then NinjaKirby?
#1206 [16:22] <NinjaKirby> I think what really made it sink in, is the addiction of producing *absolutely* nothing.
#1207 [16:23] <NinjaKirby> At least Adventure Map building, I can share with the community.
#1208 [16:23] <NinjaKirby> But I had a good (or bad?) run, of a couple of years, or whatever it's been
#1209 [16:24] <NinjaKirby> Gaming is so bad. All those hundreds of Minecraft hours, I could have been working on an actual hobby.
#1210 [16:24] <NinjaKirby> I could be actually forming something I can share in the real world.
#1211 [16:25] <NinjaKirby> Maybe try and get my Music hobby off the ground, which I always say I will do, but never have.
#1212 [16:25] <NinjaKirby> The adventure map is bad enough, I've been at that since mid-january quite consistently, and it's like 20% finished at most.
#1213 [16:26] <zkxs> The point of a hobby isn't to end up with something with real-world value
#1214 [16:26] <NinjaKirby> I'm not persuing money.
#1215 [16:26] <NinjaKirby> I'm just pursuing something tangible I can share with people, and many
#1216 [16:27] <NinjaKirby> 10 years from now, I can't brag about my Single player MC map :P
#1217 [16:27] <NinjaKirby> But I can brag about 2 Piano Concerto's, a Symphony and a set of Piano Sonata's, if I just get on with it.
#1218 [16:27] <zkxs> True. I haven't played single player for quite a while for precisely that reason.
#1219 [16:28] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, spending ages manipulating 0's and 1's, with no real... gain.
#1220 [16:28] <NinjaKirby> Even the Adventure map will only last a few months, and then it's one to add the the Map archives -_-
#1221 [16:28] <NinjaKirby> Sorry to spill out here, I just wonder... how many of us are suckered into this.
#1222 [16:29] <zkxs> Have you ever read Death of a Salesman?
#1223 [16:29] <NinjaKirby> Negative, it's an enlightening read?
#1224 [16:29] <zkxs> Yes, and it is somewhat related to your topic
#1225 [16:30] <NinjaKirby> Nice... I will look it up on Aldeko or whatever that app is.
#1226 [16:32] <sammaelt> NinjaKirby well, time draw paint and write, also gotta try to make a sculpture with watered clay
#1227 [16:33] <sammaelt> you gotta try clay sculptures, real life scultures are nice, its a lot of work if you want the finest job but its a real good hobit i love
#1228 [16:33] <sammaelt> time to*
#1229 [16:33] <NinjaKirby> lol, hobby? hobit
#1230 [16:33] <sammaelt> yeah sorry, not always good with english
#1231 [16:34] <NinjaKirby> But I see :) That sounds like good time investment, and tis cool :) Just thinking, LOTR, out of nowhere
#1232 [16:34] <sammaelt> golum clay sculpture <3
#1233 [16:34] <sammaelt> i should try this
#1234 [16:38] <sammaelt> also i make small scale models of house with thin polystyrene plaques, minecraft players should love this
#1235 [16:38] <sammaelt> my dad is an architect :)
#1236 [16:38] <sammaelt> he has a lot of those
#1237 [16:38] <NinjaKirby> Ah :P So you are inspired to follow in similar footsteps
#1238 [16:39] <sammaelt> not really im not pro enough, not even good enough, i draw and paint badly too, but i just love it
#1239 [16:39] <sammaelt> i dont care what people think
#1240 [16:40] <sammaelt> cutting polystyrene with cutter is a fine way to pass time, making the plans and assembling it is cool too, gotta love glu
#1241 [16:40] <sammaelt> its thin polystyrene though
#1242 [16:48] <NinjaKirby> Got any galleries online of your works? :)
#1243 [16:53] <sammaelt> no i should take picture of it
#1244 [16:54] <sammaelt> im kinda friendless online :s
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#1251 [17:18] <naphia> Hello I have an issue when attempting to log into a friends tekkit server with the technic launcher I get stuck on downloading terrain for about 2 minutes then I fall forever when I get into the game and eventually time out. Any one have any suggestions
#1252 [17:20] <naphia> Is anyone here?
#1253 [17:20] <oldtopman> naphia: We don't help with modded servers here, you might try googling for "tekkit downloading terrain" though.
#1254 [17:21] <naphia> Is there an unmmoded server any of you could have me attempt to join to see if it might be my computer or connection?
#1255 [17:21] <zkxs> s.nerd.nu
#1256 [17:22] <oldtopman> zkxs: You might try advertising in #smp
#1257 [17:23] <naphia> he was giving me a server to join so i could try to troubleshoot
#1258 [17:23] <zkxs> That is the reddit survival server
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#1260 [17:23] <naphia> i believe
#1261 [17:24] <zkxs> It is commonly given out in this channel to see if the issue is client side
#1262 [17:25] <naphia> so using the base client and logging into that server i have no problem
#1263 [17:26] <naphia> must be something with his server or my mods
#1264 [17:26] <zkxs> Yes. Can others connect to his server?
#1265 [17:26] <naphia> yes at least 1 other has
#1266 [17:26] <naphia> i can connect but when i do i end up falling forever
#1267 [17:27] <zkxs> And the '1 other' isn't the server admin?
#1268 [17:27] <naphia> admin and another friend can log in fine
#1269 [17:27] <zkxs> This implies that there is something wrong with the mod on your end
#1270 [17:28] <naphia> yeah but the mod works fine in single player
#1271 [17:28] <zkxs> Are you both using the same version?
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#1273 [17:31] <zkxs> Also, assuming you are all running windows you could have one of the people who has it working send you their %appdata%\.minecraft
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#1275 [17:34] <naphia> we are using the same version
#1276 [17:34] <naphia> i can log in from time to time and not fall through but it will only load about 20 blocks in any direction and then load nothing more
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#1278 [17:36] <krebbit> my minecraft has no sound
#1279 [17:37] <krebbit> why does my minecraft sound not work?
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#1283 [17:43] <zkxs> you could have one of the people who has it working send you their %appdata%\.minecraft
#1284 [17:43] <zkxs> naphia
#1285 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> Excluding the login details?
#1286 [17:44] <zkxs> Well, login details aren't in %appdata%\.minecraft
#1287 [17:44] <NinjaKirby> Really? Oh shieeeeeeeee-
#1288 [17:44] <zkxs> the lastlogin file doesn't contain anything sensitive
#1289 [17:45] <NinjaKirby> [Insert my previous response]
#1290 [17:45] <NinjaKirby> That's nice to hear though
#1291 [17:46] <zkxs> lastlogin is basically some kind of hash MC generates if you logged in successfully, allowing you to play offline without logging in, in the event that you lose internet
#1292 [17:51] <naphia> that didnt seem to help
#1293 [17:52] <zkxs> NinjaKirby: Actually, you are totally right.
#1294 [17:53] <naphia> i get stuck on downloading map for far to long and then when i finally get in there isnt a map. I read that this can be caused by slow internet but i have 30mb download speed
#1295 [17:53] <zkxs> lastlogin does contain the password, if you have 'Remember Password' checked
#1296 [17:53] <NinjaKirby> I dunno tbh ^^;; Just kinda blurted it out as I had the belief it was a security risk to leave it in
#1297 [17:54] <zkxs> it isn't in plain text, but it IS decryptable
#1298 [17:56] <Boreeas> Quite easy actually
#1299 [17:57] <Boreeas> The easiest way is probably to just extract it from the launcher
#1300 [18:03] <NinjaKirby> inb4 hunter2 approach
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#1302 [18:09] <Boreeas> You mean ********?
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#1304 [18:26] <gunther> I want to learn how to write Scripts. Can someone show me the first few steps?
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#1306 [18:33] <Boreeas> gunther: Erm, what kind of scripts?
#1307 [18:33] <DiskDaemon> batch file scripts?
#1308 [18:34] <Boreeas> Oh dear god no
#1309 [18:35] <DiskDaemon> gunther: what kind??
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#1311 [18:50] <EdGruberman> This is the authentication servers failing, right? Failed to verify username! [internal error java.net.UnknownHostException: session.minecraft.net]
#1312 [18:51] <EdGruberman> Bukkit online-mode: true server that was working up until a few hours ago, now multiple users getting this upon trying to connect
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#1318 [19:18] <GreyVulpine> !login
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#1325 [20:21] <gunther> borees
#1326 [20:21] <gunther> boreeas donate bar scrpts
#1327 [20:22] <gunther> boreeas
#1328 [20:22] <gunther> Boreeas
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#1330 [20:26] <Wug> gunther: dont do that
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#1345 [21:52] <SuperMilk> Anyone here?
#1346 [21:52] <DiskDaemon> sure
#1347 [21:53] <SuperMilk> how long does it take for me to get premium
#1348 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> it should be fairly instantaneous
#1349 [21:54] <SuperMilk> Nope :l
#1350 [21:54] <Eddie> Chuck Testa?
#1351 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> Once you pay for premium you should then have premium, right?
#1352 [21:54] <SuperMilk> i bought the game
#1353 [21:54] <Eddie> I'm not sure if it's instantaneous
#1354 [21:55] <SuperMilk> so does that give me premium?
#1355 [21:55] <Eddie> !paid SuperMilk
#1356 [21:55] <Eddie> o:
#1357 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, here's the article. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1358 [21:55] <SuperMilk> What are bank transfers :P
#1359 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> that I'm not sure about
#1360 [21:57] <SuperMilk> Sooo i should wait like 3-5 days?
#1361 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Did the funds leave your bank account?
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#1363 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> And also, is it a gift code that you purchased? You can check that by logging in and going to http://www.minecraft.net/profile
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#1367 [22:10] <SuperMilk> sorry for late
#1368 [22:10] <SuperMilk> reply
#1369 [22:10] <SuperMilk> umm I can't be sure about the funds leaving
#1370 [22:10] <SuperMilk> i used my fathers credit card
#1371 [22:11] <SuperMilk> and i haven't bought a gift code
#1372 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> Okay, confirm first that it has actually been paid for, by checking that the credit card shows the payment.
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#1374 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> That is also where you'll find the transaction ID, which you will need if you contact Mojang later on about your payment
#1375 [22:16] <SuperMilk> wait but when
#1376 [22:16] <SuperMilk> Eddit used the !paid thingy on me, didn't it say i've paid for minecraft already?
#1377 [22:16] <SuperMilk> Eddie*
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#1379 [22:18] <SuperMilk> !paid SuperMilk
#1380 [22:18] <SuperMilk> Derp
#1381 [22:18] <Crus> from gg?
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#1383 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> SuperMilk: Wait for 3-5 days and check again next week
#1384 [22:20] <SuperMilk> alright
#1385 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Or, as it was a credit card payment, moneybookers may have sent you an email that you need to reply to, which might have found its way in to a spam filter of some kind
#1386 [22:23] <SuperMilk> 1) A transaction in the amount of $26.95 at moneybookers, a professional service company was declined in LONDON, United Kingdom on or around 2012-05-06 at 0:01PM.
#1387 [22:24] <SuperMilk> :l
#1388 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> Details on that can be found at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#1389 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> Why would moneybrookers have declined the transaction? Contacting moneybrookers can help in that regard.
#1390 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> THe place to get going with contacting moneybookers is at https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=contact
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#1393 [22:43] <SuperMilk> weird O.o
#1394 [22:43] <SuperMilk> MoneyBrookers US location is about half a mile from my house
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