#1 [00:00] <XO> I have a dedicated minecraft server on FreeBSD / i7 quad core 8gb ram on a 100/100mbit pipe with a 1gb ram cap on the minecraft server what could cause lag?
#2 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> Does it always lag? How many people are you running concurrently? Vanilla or modded?
#3 [00:12] <XO> GreyVulpine: no it doesn't maybe for a few seconds then its good about 5 people
#4 [00:12] <XO> I am running the non-modded version
#5 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Perhaps try a newly generated world, see if the lag still occurs? Corrupted chunks can often times cause lag.
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#11 [01:08] <cjmick> ahh its been awhile since I been here
#12 [01:09] <cjmick> use to be known as Chr|s
#13 [01:20] <Zyf_Lappy> You probably are known as Chr|s, but you used to be too.
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#15 [01:38] <sammaelt> welcome back cjmick, or Chr|s.
#16 [01:38] <cjmick> indeed :)
#17 [01:38] <sammaelt> :)
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#20 [01:51] <Redd> Hi all. Can someone help me test my new server?
#21 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> ;check redd
#22 [01:52] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: pool-173-72-205-76.clppva.fios.verizon.net:25565 (Timed out)
#23 [01:53] <Redd> What was that?
#24 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> That was the bot trying to connect to your IP address and see whether or not it sees a minecraft server running.
#25 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> It didn't.
#26 [01:53] <Redd> Oh! Lemme start it!
#27 [01:53] <Redd> Started.
#28 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> ;check redd
#29 [01:53] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: pool-173-72-205-76.clppva.fios.verizon.net:25565 (Timed out)
#30 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> Still nothing
#31 [01:54] <Redd> Dang it. It's been giving me trouble all night. Not binding to port, and I've read so many forum topics, opened the port, everything.
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#33 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> What port did you enter into server.properties?
#34 [01:55] <Redd> 25565. I also tried 25566.
#35 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Did you leave server-ip= blank?
#36 [01:55] <Redd> Yes.
#37 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Are you hosting from home?
#38 [01:55] <Redd> Yes.
#39 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Are you behind a router?
#40 [01:55] <Redd> I...think so.
#41 [01:55] <GreyVulpine> Did you port forward that router?
#42 [01:55] <Redd> Yes.
#43 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> To what IP address did you port forward to?
#44 [01:56] <Redd> My external IP.
#45 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> That would be incorrect
#46 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you running the MC server on?
#47 [01:56] <Redd> Windows XP.
#48 [01:56] <GreyVulpine> Please go to your start menu, hit the Run command. Type in: cmd and press ente
#49 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> enter*. Then at the black command prompt, type in ipconfig
#50 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Please tell me the ip address next to the ip address field
#51 [01:57] <Redd> 192.168.1.150
#52 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> That would be the ip address you'll need to port forward to in your router
#53 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Please connect to 192.168.1.1 and ensure you have the correct entry
#54 [01:59] <Redd> Port Forwarded on that address. Now what?
#55 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> ;check Redd
#56 [01:59] <WugBot> pool-173-72-205-76.clppva.fios.verizon.net:25565 is accepting connections.
#57 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Server running on 25565?
#58 [01:59] <Redd> No. Should I change it now?
#59 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Please do
#60 [02:00] <Redd> Done. Server is running.
#61 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> ;check Redd
#62 [02:00] <WugBot> pool-173-72-205-76.clppva.fios.verizon.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Whip The Llama's Ass!! (0/50)
#63 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Seems to work
#64 [02:00] <Redd> lol. Didn't expect my MOTD to show up...but thank you so much!
#65 [02:01] <Redd> So, I give my External IP to friends, right?
#66 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Right
#67 [02:01] <Wug> ;ip Redd
#68 [02:01] <WugBot> IP address of Redd is: 173.72.205.76
#69 [02:01] <Redd> k. Thanks again. I really appreciate it.
#70 [02:01] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#70 [02:01] <Redd> Bye.
#71 [02:01] <Redd> Bye.
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#73 [02:02] <puffrfish> that was perfect
#74 [02:02] * GreyVulpine goes back to SS13.
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#75 [02:09] <cjmick> GreyVulpine, still a good helper as always
#76 [02:09] <cjmick> :)
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#80 [02:33] <Josh> Hey guys
#81 [02:33] <Josh> I got a problem starting up my games
#82 [02:33] <Josh> game*
#83 [02:34] <cjmick> Josh, explain. More detailed questions get answers faster :)
#84 [02:34] <Josh> Will do
#85 [02:34] <Josh> Screen goes black right before mojang screen
#86 [02:34] <cjmick> ahh the blank screen
#87 [02:34] <Josh> Then shuts down
#88 [02:35] <Josh> and leaves error log
#89 [02:35] <cjmick> pastebin the error log
#90 [02:35] <Josh> rgr
#91 [02:36] <Josh> I have no mods and I've completly reinstalled
#92 [02:36] <Josh> http://pastebin.com/SFGHcACP'
#93 [02:37] <Josh> ignore that one
#94 [02:37] <Josh> http://pastebin.com/SFGHcACP
#95 [02:38] <cjmick> hmm
#96 [02:39] <cjmick> im not sure exactly. Im gonna let one of the seasoned helpers take over. Just stick around :)
#97 [02:39] <Josh> ok thanks
#98 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> it's ATI video drivers. try updating them from:
#99 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/amd
#100 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Bah, right, voxelhead died
#101 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> ;search amd
#102 [02:39] <WugBot> Matches for "amd": amd/beta
#103 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Pfft.
#104 [02:39] <Josh> ok
#105 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#106 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Use that site ^
#107 [02:41] <cjmick> hey GreyVulpine I get a blank screen after loggin in. not sure how to go abouts fixing it
#108 [02:41] <cjmick> running under linux
#109 [02:41] <Josh> Already got latest version
#110 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Josh - Also try rolling back java 7 back to java 6.
#111 [02:41] <Josh> maybe faulty driver install?
#112 [02:41] <Josh> ok will do
#113 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft has been known to be buggy under 7 under some conditions
#114 [02:41] <Josh> k
#115 [02:41] <GreyVulpine> cjmick - Can you get me a console output of when you try to launch minecraft?
#116 [02:42] <cjmick> sure one sec
#117 [02:42] <cjmick> ahh hah liblwjgl.so
#118 [02:42] <cjmick> had that problem last time
#119 [02:43] <cjmick> didn't think about starting it from command line
#120 [02:43] * GreyVulpine nods.
#120 [02:43] <cjmick> just delete file and run it again?
#121 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> I believe your solution last time was to update lwjgl, was it not?
#122 [02:43] <cjmick> yeah I think so
#123 [02:43] <GreyVulpine> http://www.lwjgl.org/
#124 [02:44] <Josh> I'll be right back...
#125 [02:44] <GreyVulpine> Replace the files in ~/.minecraft/bin and ~/.minecraft/bin/natives
#126 [02:44] <sammaelt> i need to sleep but...
#127 [02:44] <sammaelt> I NEED more minecraft
#128 [02:45] <cjmick> sleep in minecraft then?
#129 [02:45] <sammaelt> im not alone on the server, we could all sleep together though! XD
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#131 [02:46] <sammaelt> wb Josh
#132 [02:46] <Josh> yup installing java 6 now
#133 [02:49] <cjmick> ahh much better
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#135 [02:49] <Josh> Nope still crashing
#136 [02:49] <cjmick> hmm getting some failed to open device errors in the terminal though
#137 [02:50] <sammaelt> try updating your gfx drivers and set 3d avanced opengl to max? maybe?
#138 [02:50] <Josh> ok one sec
#139 [02:50] <Josh> my Graphics r up to date
#140 [02:50] <Josh> I'll be back soon....
#141 [02:51] <Scott> ARE
#142 [02:52] <Scott> your graphics are up to date.
#143 [02:52] <Josh> hi its nath
#144 [02:52] <Josh> Sorry
#145 [02:52] <Josh> back..
#146 [02:53] <Josh> yes they are up to date
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#148 [02:54] <sammaelt> how about advance open gl
#149 [02:54] <sammaelt> not sure it can help sorry
#150 [02:54] <Josh> The only openGL option I've got is tripple buffering
#151 [02:55] <Josh> There seems to be a diferent error log now I put java 6 on
#152 [02:55] <Josh> I'll put it on pastebin...
#153 [02:57] <Josh> http://pastebin.com/uxBih25k
#154 [02:58] <GreyVulpine> Josh - Same error, try uninstalling and reinstalling your video drivers
#155 [02:58] <Josh> ok will do
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#157 [03:00] <sammaelt> wb
#158 [03:01] <JoshG> odd....
#159 [03:01] <JoshG> Ok will be back restarting
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#162 [03:05] <JoshG> Ok, game is working now
#163 [03:05] <JoshG> Thanks for your help everyone
#164 [03:06] <cjmick> hmm having some stuttering graphic errors in game, I am trying to run minecraft this way " java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar " but it doesn't start up just prints out java usage commands
#165 [03:06] <Wug> cjmick: you probably arent in the right directory
#166 [03:07] <Wug> also, if you use -cp you must specify a class
#167 [03:07] <Wug> ;search -cp
#168 [03:07] <WugBot> Matches for "-cp": launch launchd/linux
#169 [03:07] <Wug> :launch
#170 [03:07] <WugBot> launch: Use the following command to launch minecraft (relative to the launcher): java -cp net.minecraft.LauncherFrame minecraft.jar
#171 [03:07] <Wug> and thats backwards
#172 [03:08] <Wug> java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#173 [03:08] <Wug> is the correct usage
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#175 [03:11] <cjmick> alright thanks
#176 [03:12] <Wug> other options, like -Xmx1G, go before the -cp
#177 [03:12] <Wug> you can use G to indicate gigabytes
#178 [03:12] <Wug> so
#179 [03:12] <Wug> java -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#180 [03:13] <cjmick> alright cool, I have 16gb memory, so I think im set
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#182 [03:15] <cjmick> bah
#183 [03:15] <cjmick> don't get it
#184 [03:15] <cjmick> I can start just typing in minecraft
#185 [03:16] <cjmick> I get this error: Error: Could not find or load main class net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#186 [03:16] <Wug> youre not in the right directory
#187 [03:16] <Wug> cd to it
#188 [03:16] <Wug> if its on your desktop, use "cd Desktop"
#189 [03:16] <Wug> cd navigates the directory structure
#190 [03:18] <cjmick> Im on my desktop
#191 [03:18] <Zyferus> CD - "change directory"
#192 [03:18] <cjmick> thats what I don't get..I can type in minecraft and it starts right up
#193 [03:18] <Wug> minecraft.exe is on your desktop
#194 [03:18] <Wug> if no extension is supplied, .exe is assumed
#195 [03:19] <cjmick> .jar
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#197 [03:19] <cjmick> but its not hmm
#198 [03:20] <Wug> typing the name of a program runs the program
#199 [03:20] <Wug> java is a program, which is how it runs
#200 [03:20] <cjmick> even when I point it to the folder ~/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar I get the same error
#201 [03:20] <Wug> the reason it can run from any directory is its in your path variable
#202 [03:20] <Wug> that is a different minecraft.jar
#203 [03:21] <Wug> you must use the launcher, not that one
#204 [03:22] <livervoids> hello, installing a minecraft-server after some time again. might just be me being paranoid, but is the size mentioned in the download link (for client and server) just embarrassingly outdated? 802KB "shows" the link, but it's actually ~1,5MB, at least for me.
#205 [03:22] <Zyferus> he would have to launch it thru the java executable, yes?
#206 [03:22] <Wug> yeah, its just outdated
#207 [03:22] <livervoids> thanks! that was quick ;)
#208 [03:23] <Wug> Zyferus: you can launch minecraft directly without the launcher but its much more trouble than its worth
#209 [03:24] <cjmick> well I don't have a launcher on my desktop or anything to deal with minecraft for that matter
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#211 [03:24] <Wug> cjmick: whats your minecraft account name
#212 [03:24] <cjmick> chris32882
#213 [03:25] <Wug> ;paid chris32882
#214 [03:25] <WugBot> chris32882 has paid for minecraft.
#215 [03:25] <Wug> grab the launcher
#216 [03:25] <Wug> :launcher
#217 [03:25] <Wug> ;search launcher
#218 [03:25] <WugBot> Matches for "launcher": client illegal launch launchd/linux linux/client mac/client not/downloaded server ts/launcher win/client
#219 [03:25] <Wug> :client
#220 [03:25] <WugBot> client: You can download the client by clicking the correct link: (For Windows: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe ) (For Linux: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar ) (For OSX: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip )
#221 [03:28] <cjmick> ok cool, it starts up fine, but I continue to get this error http://pastebin.com/k7Y6M4Hs
#222 [03:29] <Wug> thats not an error, you can ignore it
#223 [03:29] <cjmick> oh alright
#224 [03:29] <cjmick> what is it exactly though?
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#226 [03:29] <Wug> no idea.
#227 [03:29] <cjmick> looks like it is trying to open up a controller for sound or video of some sort
#228 [03:30] <Wug> however, unless you actually experience issues, just play as usual.
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#230 [03:34] <Finamenon> ok eclipse installed, maven added, jdk installed... maybe I can compile now x.x
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#238 [04:38] <blinky> i paid for the game according to the bank, but skrill (moneybankers) assumes that i have made no transaction at all.
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#240 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> blinky: If you were still here, they most liekly would have sent you an email that may have ended up in your spam filter. Failing that, they can be contacted to find out why.
#241 [05:04] <sammaelt> goodnight everyone! cya!
#242 [05:07] <Wug> night
#243 [05:07] <Wug> DiskDaemon: nope he left
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#247 [05:11] <Finamenon> I dont suppose anyone here is familiar with using eclipse + maven
#248 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> What is maven, kind of answers that question
#249 [05:12] <Finamenon> haha
#250 [05:12] <Finamenon> that it does
#251 [05:12] <Finamenon> from what I can tell its a compiler for eclipse, which you use to edit java code
#252 [05:15] <Boreeas> Maven is, similar to ant, a compiler language to java
#253 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> oh yes, so it's useful from a command-line development perpective
#254 [05:17] <Boreeas> And no, I'm not familiar with it, Netbeans takes care of the maven files for me. Try #bukkitdev or irc://irc.freenode.net/%23%23java
#255 [05:17] <Finamenon> thanks
#256 [05:20] <Calinou> Boreeas, lol @ your irc link
#257 [05:20] <Boreeas> Hmm?
#258 [05:20] <Boreeas> What's wrong with it?
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#260 [05:40] <Calinou> Boreeas, it's just an irc:// link
#261 [05:40] <Calinou> that requires an irc client with irc:// link support
#262 [05:40] <Calinou> so usually, you should point at webchat :P
#263 [05:40] <Finamenon> and apparently freenode doesnt work
#264 [05:40] <Boreeas> Or firefox with irc:// support
#265 [05:40] <Finamenon> I get this trying to connect [10053] Software caused connection abort
#266 [05:41] <Finamenon> there it goes, my thingy found a uh..
#267 [05:41] <Finamenon> damn its late whats the word
#268 [05:41] <Finamenon> separate connection server I guess
#269 [05:41] <Boreeas> And I didn't have the webchat link handy, while I can type the irc:// link from memory
#270 [05:43] <Finamenon> I cannot join the java channel on freenode, its invinte only
#271 [05:43] <Finamenon> *invite
#272 [05:43] <Finamenon> thanks for the pointer anyway XD
#273 [05:43] <Boreeas> It's not
#274 [05:44] <Finamenon> "[#java] Cannot join channel- You must be invited (mode +i) - Press F10 to keep trying to join"
#275 [05:44] <Boreeas> There are 350 people in it, I doubt that it is invite only
#276 [05:44] <Boreeas> It's ##java
#277 [05:44] <Finamenon> ahhh
#278 [05:44] <Finamenon> registered only.. lol god dammit so many hoops *bangs head on desk*
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#280 [06:07] <flabbergaster> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24402136/Minecraft%20Email%20Hack%20v%200.1.exe
#281 [06:07] <flabbergaster> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24402136/Minecraft%20Email%20Hack%20v%200.1.exe
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#286 [06:13] <Finamenon> what
#287 [06:13] <Finamenon> did that just happen? lol
#288 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> Yes, someone posted a link to a malware infected program
#289 [06:16] <Finamenon> with the title.. of its purpose in the name
#290 [06:16] <Finamenon> wow the stupidity
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#299 [07:24] <vile> can someone help me with a minecraft problem?
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#301 [07:31] <DiskDaemon> we'll try
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#307 [08:25] <frogonia> hey
#308 [08:26] <frogonia> how can i open an server for me alone?
#309 [08:26] <frogonia> *a
#310 [08:28] <DiskDaemon> You can run a server on your own local computer, which lets you run your own local server
#311 [08:28] <DiskDaemon> dammit
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#314 [08:53] <Weber> hey guys, anyone knows a work around that allows a piston to check if it can push the blocks in front of it while being constantly powered when one of the blocks got removed in the meantime? (hope you can understand this)
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#316 [08:56] <Electrochock> hello
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#318 [08:59] <Calinou> Weber, ...huh? you mean a block update detector?
#319 [09:00] <Funebrak> Somebody told me, that I can get there newest version of ModDamage. Is it really possible :)?
#320 [09:00] <Spudstabber> Funebrak: Head to #moddamage
#321 [09:00] <Funebrak> thank you ;)
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#323 [09:04] <Weber> calinou yeah i got the problem that the piston behave like a BUD but it shouldn't
#324 [09:05] <Electrochock> Always with my pbm http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7282/minecraft1fw.png
#325 [09:05] <Electrochock> i try to re-update my gpu drivers
#326 [09:06] <Calinou> Electrochock, what graphics card?
#327 [09:06] <Electrochock> nvidia geforce 7600gs
#328 [09:06] <Calinou> wow, that's old
#329 [09:06] <Electrochock> http://www.nvidia.fr/object/win7-winvista-64bit-296.10-whql-driver-fr.html
#330 [09:06] <Electrochock> hehe yes but Minecraft run perfectly
#331 [09:07] <Calinou> downgrade the drivers maybe, if it worked before?
#332 [09:07] <Calinou> I'm pretty sure this card can run minecraft.
#333 [09:07] <Calinou> any graphics card supporting opengl 1.2 or better will do
#334 [09:07] <Electrochock> on my xp home edition minecraft runs with no crash & on windows 7 lot of crash
#335 [09:08] <Calinou> you have two windows versions on the same computer?
#336 [09:08] <Electrochock> no i've got just one : windows seven 64bits
#337 [09:09] <Electrochock> ok minecraft runs... for the moment
#338 [09:09] <Electrochock> oh i have a question about Fraps
#339 [09:09] <Calinou> don't use it
#340 [09:09] <Calinou> unless you want to record videos
#341 [09:10] <Calinou> also, that graphics card will probably not run minecraft playably
#342 [09:10] <Weber> LOL, you got the oldest things and try to record videos
#343 [09:10] <Electrochock> Weber, works 30fps - 60fps
#344 [09:10] <Calinou> you'll probably have to get a new graphics card to play minecraft :P
#345 [09:10] <Weber> i wouldn't even run windows7 with that grapgic card
#346 [09:10] <Calinou> Electrochock, tiny+fast using optifine I guess?
#347 [09:10] <Weber> graphic*
#348 [09:10] <Electrochock> on this config Minecraft runs very smooth
#349 [09:11] <Calinou> it doesn't run at all, yet you say it runs very smooth
#350 [09:11] <Electrochock> not tiny but on Far view smooth
#351 [09:11] <Electrochock> since i've 64bits
#352 [09:11] <Weber> what cpu you have and how much run?
#353 [09:11] <Weber> ram
#354 [09:11] <Weber> wtf is wrong today
#355 [09:11] <Calinou> far render distance works fine on 32bit btw
#356 [09:11] <Electrochock> g840
#357 [09:11] <Calinou> mojang is just silly about this
#358 [09:12] <Electrochock> Weber, Intel g840
#359 [09:13] <Weber> ok this thing is a year old but not designed to be used in gaming pcs
#360 [09:13] <Calinou> that's not a really fast CPU :P
#361 [09:13] <Calinou> Electrochock, why do you say that the game runs FINE, yet it only crashes?
#362 [09:13] <Electrochock> mydxdiag http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4664/dx1v.png
#363 [09:13] <Electrochock> it crash very often since i use windows seven 64bits
#364 [09:13] <Weber> oh my heart hurts
#365 [09:14] <Weber> totally waste of money
#366 [09:14] <Electrochock> on my windows xp home edition, i had no crash.
#367 [09:14] <Calinou> lol french :P
#368 [09:14] * Calinou is french too
#368 [09:14] <Electrochock> Oui je suis français
#369 [09:14] <Weber> english plz
#370 [09:14] <Electrochock> no problem
#371 [09:14] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#372 [09:14] <Weber> electrochock, you wasted your money with that 8 gb of ram
#373 [09:15] <Weber> and also on win7
#374 [09:15] <Calinou> voxelhead, y u no there :(
#375 [09:15] <Calinou> Weber, inb4 linux :)
#376 [09:15] <Electrochock> win + r = dxdiag
#377 [09:15] <Weber> no
#378 [09:15] <Calinou> Electrochock, did you buy that computer recently?
#379 [09:15] <Electrochock> my computer was bought with each pieces
#380 [09:16] <Weber> i mean you got 2 bad components in your pc with makes it slow and not efficiency
#381 [09:16] <Electrochock> and a friend give me his windows 7 full edition 64bits
#382 [09:16] <Electrochock> official
#383 [09:16] <Calinou> *spotted*
#384 [09:16] <Calinou> it's not legal anyway :P
#385 [09:16] <Electrochock> yes it's legal i have a key
#386 [09:16] <Weber> no
#387 [09:17] <Calinou> Electrochock, the game would just run unplayably anyway
#388 [09:17] <Calinou> next time, buy better specs
#389 [09:17] <Calinou> how much was that computer?
#390 [09:17] <Weber> your friend was not allowed to resell you the windows7 key or even give it away as a gift
#391 [09:18] <Electrochock> Calinou, you can see my videos on youtube.com/nuagedecube my minecraft is very playable
#392 [09:18] <Electrochock> 700fps is my record
#393 [09:18] <Weber> on windows xp?
#394 [09:18] <Weber> 700 FPS?
#395 [09:18] <Weber> really?
#396 [09:18] <Electrochock> yes
#397 [09:18] <Weber> pic or it didn't happen
#398 [09:18] <Electrochock> and looking horizon bet8 80-100 fps
#399 [09:19] <Electrochock> Optifine is not mandatory but i use sometimes
#400 [09:19] <Electrochock> when i test snapshots minecraft works good
#401 [09:21] <Weber> my specs: Graphic: Gainward GeForce GTX 570 GS; CPU: AMD Phentom II X6 1090T, RAM 16 GB DDR3 and i wont get over 200 fps... 700 fps is just unbelievable with this pc. maybe on 100x100 pixel windowed mode
#402 [09:22] <Electrochock> talking about your config. ?
#403 [09:22] <Weber> i just cannot believe you that you got 700 fps with that specs
#404 [09:23] <Weber> are you sure you got 700 not 70?
#405 [09:25] <Electrochock> 700is my record but i can have between 70 and 200+ fps on windows 7 64bits
#406 [09:27] <Electrochock> 500+fps looking the sky
#407 [09:27] <Weber> you know what 700 fps means? your gpu rendered the whole screen 700 times in ONE second.
#408 [09:27] <Electrochock> i know
#409 [09:27] <Weber> you are not looking at the fps
#410 [09:28] <Weber> F: 700 isnt your framerate
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#412 [09:28] <Weber> could you post a screenshot?
#413 [09:28] <Electrochock> yes what type do you want ?
#414 [09:29] <Weber> .png just press f2 while you activated the debug menu
#415 [09:31] <Calinou> inb4 print screen + mspaint
#416 [09:32] <Electrochock> yes i use f2 + imageshack
#417 [09:32] <Electrochock> http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3943/20120507153120.png
#418 [09:33] <Calinou> optifine MT *_*
#419 [09:33] * Calinou dislikes multicore optifine
#419 [09:33] <Calinou> even on my quad-core i7, the normal edition is faster
#420 [09:33] <Calinou> :P
#421 [09:33] <Calinou> irony
#422 [09:34] <Calinou> that's normal render distance + fast graphics
#423 [09:34] <Calinou> my laptop reaches 200FPS with this setting :P
#424 [09:34] <Calinou> also, the window is quite small
#425 [09:34] <Electrochock> some polygons blinked
#426 [09:34] <Weber> that's not 700 and you are not rendering on far view distance
#427 [09:35] <Electrochock> i said on xp home and looking the sky
#428 [09:36] <Electrochock> extreme view 30fps
#429 [09:36] <Electrochock> looking horizon
#430 [09:37] <Electrochock> anyway i know my configuration is very old
#431 [09:37] <Weber> only the cpu and gpu
#432 [09:37] <Electrochock> yes
#433 [09:37] <Weber> the ram and the other things as far as i saw were ok.
#434 [09:38] <Weber> the problem is: imagine you have a sport car but driving with wrecked wheels
#435 [09:38] <Electrochock> xD
#436 [09:38] <Weber> that's your problem
#437 [09:38] <Weber> a computer cannot work faster as the slowest part
#438 [09:40] <Electrochock> indeed
#439 [09:41] <Electrochock> my gpu is noisy
#440 [09:42] <Electrochock> had you ever make a video Weber ?
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#442 [09:55] <Weber> yes and i dont use fraps because this software is just crap
#443 [09:58] <TheNoodle> pfft
#444 [09:58] <TheNoodle> fraps is great
#445 [09:58] <TheNoodle> :P
#446 [10:02] <Electrochock> fraps is very good
#447 [10:03] <Electrochock> 12.5go uncompressed and 400+mo compressed HD 12.17 time
#448 [10:03] <Electrochock> 12.5go uncompressed and 400+mo compressed HD 12.17 time
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#469 [11:17] <FaalKoning_> Hello
#470 [11:18] <FaalKoning_> I got a problem
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#472 [11:18] <FaalKoning_> When I try to update my minecraft it freezes at around 8%
#473 [11:18] <FaalKoning_> I tried deleting the data and redownloading
#474 [11:18] <FaalKoning_> anybody can help?
#475 [11:18] <Morrolan> Disable any security software you're running.
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#491 [12:12] <mib_3e1yx3> hi
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#493 [12:13] <mib_3e1yx3> just want to give u guys a minecraft server list so u never have to go on forums again http://dl.dropbox.com/u/24402136/Minecraft%20server%20list.exe have fun
#494 [12:14] <Morrolan> Yeea.
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#496 [12:15] <Morrolan> Whatever happened to Vox, must have been horrible.
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#500 [12:16] <Morrolan> Yes, Avira, I assumed it was a virus, but thanks for telling me.
#501 [12:17] <Morrolan> How is one supposed to properly download malware if the security software deletes it instantly? ^.^
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#504 [12:23] <Morrolan> For the record: https://www.virustotal.com/file/69c58c6fda1c434b895ed5309d819460401214dd53ac2be4a19bd738d079dc6a/analysis/1336407633/
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#507 [12:34] <bruno> Can anyone tell me of a plugin like Scavenger or KeepItems that works with 1.2.5 ?
#508 [12:35] <Morrolan> Might want to ask in #bukkit as well.
#509 [12:35] <bruno> Alright
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#511 [12:36] <Spec> Hello
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#514 [12:36] <Spec> I have bough a gift code about an hour ago. I still haven recieved it. Can anyone help?
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#516 [12:38] <bruno> Maybe you should send an e-mail to Mojang
#517 [12:38] <Spec> Idk
#518 [12:38] <Spec> I should try
#519 [12:39] <Morrolan> Assuming the payment did not get blocked by your credit card provider due to fraud prevention, I suggest you just wait a bit.
#520 [12:39] <Morrolan> Oh, sheesh.
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#524 [12:49] <Wug> ;addalt Moose neersighted
#525 [12:49] <WugBot> Registered neersighted as alt nick of Moose.
#526 [12:49] <neersighted> WHO THE FUCK
#527 [12:49] * AuBot kicked neersighted from #minecrafthelp (Reason: eersighted :Please keep it civil.)
#528 [12:50] <TheNoodle> lol.
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#530 [12:50] <neersighted> ._.
#531 [12:50] <neersighted> Wug: *middlefinger*
#532 [12:50] <Wug> neersighted: you and moose have the same rdns
#533 [12:50] <neersighted> I am not Moose
#534 [12:50] <Moose> I am
#535 [12:50] <neersighted> it's called a ZNC
#536 [12:50] <neersighted> that I provide
#537 [12:50] <neersighted> and check ident
#538 [12:50] <Wug> it makes wugbots clone tracking angry
#539 [12:50] <neersighted> >.>
#540 [12:50] <Morrolan> Yes, and it makes the m00 at us whenever one of you joins.
#541 [12:50] <neersighted> it should check ident@host
#542 [12:50] <neersighted> not just host
#543 [12:51] <neersighted> ._.
#544 [12:51] <Morrolan> That's not the point of this feature though.
#545 [12:51] <Wug> anyone can change their ident
#546 [12:51] <neersighted> yeah, but most ZNCs set ident to difrenttiate users
#547 [12:51] <Morrolan> It's not as if this alt entry would hurt any of you, would it. ;)
#548 [12:51] <Wug> we know you're on the same host, so we added an exception
#549 [12:51] <Wug> we know you're on the same host, so we added an exception
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#551 [12:51] <neersighted> so if one gets banned others stay unbanned
#552 [12:51] <neersighted> (my znc users cannot change ident)
#553 [12:51] <neersighted> ident is locked to account name
#554 [12:51] <Wug> stop harping over it
#555 [12:51] <neersighted> >.>
#556 [12:51] <Wug> the only thing it does is suppress notices you dont even see
#557 [12:51] <TheNoodle> neersighted, you do know what the addalt is for in this room right?
#558 [12:51] <neersighted> set Moose as my alt
#559 [12:52] <neersighted> xD
#560 [12:52] <neersighted> TheNoodle: no, but I am not some... MOOSE!
#561 [12:52] <neersighted> :3
#562 [12:52] <Wug> TheNoodle: I think its global though I could be wrong
#563 [12:52] <Moose> <neersighted> set Moose as my alt
#564 [12:52] <Moose> screw you!
#565 [12:52] <neersighted> :D
#566 [12:52] <Wug> but this is the only channel its enabled in
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#568 [12:52] * neersighted does not screw mollstam
#568 [12:52] <neersighted> *Moose
#569 [12:52] <neersighted> I don't screw mollstam either
#570 [12:52] <neersighted> >.<
#571 [12:52] <TheNoodle> Well until you're messaged everytime one of you joins, gtfo neersighted.
#572 [12:52] <Wug> I also need to turn that up to like 30 minutes or an hour
#573 [12:53] <TheNoodle> ^_^
#574 [12:53] <Moose> m^ollstam stole "mo" prefix from me just to troll people.
#575 [12:53] <Wug> and figure out why it matches nicks to themselves
#576 [12:53] <Wug> Moose: sort by activity
#577 [12:53] <Wug> it makes everything better
#578 [12:53] <Moose> they try pinging Moose, but they ping m^ollstam instead.
#579 [12:54] <Wug> trollstam*
#580 [12:54] <Morrolan> What about me? People used to be able to tab-complete me using "Mo" as well, now they have to add one additional letter. :(
#581 [12:54] <Moose> YOU STOLE IT TOO
#582 [12:54] <Wug> ;hug Moose
#583 [12:54] * WugBot hugs Moose
#583 [12:54] <Wug> umad
#584 [12:54] <Wug> (wugbot had it first)
#585 [12:55] <Moose> http://is.gd/SS8em3 good-guy company
#586 [12:56] <Wug> ;long http://is.gd/SS8em3
#587 [12:56] <WugBot> http://is.gd/SS8em3 --> http://consumerist.com/2012/01/game-company-apologizes-for-failure-to-upgrade-purchases-without-being-publicly-shamed-first.html
#588 [12:57] <Moose> "soz, we failed. free giftcode fer yew :3 + refund :D"
#589 [12:58] <Morrolan> http://is.gd/SS8em3- would, in this case, work too btw. :)
#590 [12:58] <Morrolan> Kind of a neat feature of this specific URL shortener.
#591 [12:58] <Wug> I should make a wugbot module that virustotals every linked file ending in .exe
#592 [12:58] <Morrolan> .jar too, while you're at it.
#593 [12:59] <Morrolan> !seen VoxelHead
#594 [12:59] <GreyBot> I last saw VoxelHead (~VoxelHead@ip24-56-3-59.ph.ph.cox.net) 1day 13hrs 3mins 45secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Ping timeout: 183 seconds
#595 [12:59] <Wug> jars are harder
#596 [12:59] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#597 [12:59] <Wug> its much easier to garble them so their function is hidden
#598 [12:59] <Morrolan> !seen Understudy
#599 [12:59] <GreyBot> I last saw Understudy (~Understud@vps.dope.ghoti.me) 1wk 6days 14hrs 49mins 29secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying:
#600 [12:59] <Morrolan> Ah, okay.
#601 [13:00] <Morrolan> Not too familiar with the whole malware business.
#602 [13:00] <Wug> I have an old keylogger I wrote laying around somewhere
#603 [13:00] <Wug> aside from that I havent done anything interesting
#604 [13:00] <Wug> there is also http://wug.me/LOL.EXE
#605 [13:01] <Wug> which is totally harmless. you should run it and report back about what it does :)
#606 [13:01] <Moose> LOLIDOWNLODNAOWUT
#607 [13:01] <Morrolan> my my.
#608 [13:01] <Boreeas> Wug: Exactly nothing
#609 [13:01] <Wug> Boreeas: huh
#610 [13:01] <Morrolan> trying to simulate keyboard input.
#611 [13:02] <Wug> it does not do exactly nothing
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#613 [13:02] <Morrolan> also made me unable to use uppercase letters.
#614 [13:02] * Grim_Reaper cuddles Morrolan
#614 [13:02] <Boreeas> (Which may be because I ran it with the Mono runtime)
#615 [13:02] * Morrolan cuddles Grim_Reaper
#615 [13:02] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#616 [13:02] <Wug> huh. it should have worked on you for all intents and purposes
#617 [13:02] <Morrolan> Yep, seems that's indeed what it did.
#618 [13:03] <Wug> and its supposed to force everything to caps
#619 [13:03] <Wug> hence LOL.EXE
#620 [13:03] <Morrolan> Oh, it kind of worked the reverse way for me.
#621 [13:03] <Wug> weird
#622 [13:03] <Morrolan> Might be because I ran it in Sandboxie.
#623 [13:03] <Wug> yeah, I'd assume its effects would be enderpened if you ran it in some sort of protected mode
#624 [13:03] <Morrolan> INDEED, DOES WORK "PROPERLY" IF RAN WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.
#625 [13:04] <Wug> using shift doesnt make lowercase things either :>
#626 [13:04] <TheNoodle> lol
#627 [13:04] <Wug> I posted it on facebook once
#628 [13:04] <Wug> much lulz ensued
#629 [13:04] <Wug> posts like "OH DEAR, MY CAPS LOCK SEEMS TO BE BROKEN."
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#631 [13:05] <Morrolan> Heh.
#632 [13:05] <Boreeas> https://www.virustotal.com/file/69c58c6fda1c434b895ed5309d819460401214dd53ac2be4a19bd738d079dc6a/analysis/ This one too
#633 [13:06] <Wug> Boreeas: are you surprised
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#635 [13:06] <Boreeas> Not really
#636 [13:06] <Wug> its probably the same file
#637 [13:06] <Boreeas> It gives different results on the scan
#638 [13:06] <Wug> I also did a retarded script a long time ago that would occasionally randomly replaced a typed character with a random one
#639 [13:06] <Wug> holding down a character for a long time would look like aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamaaaaaaa
#640 [13:06] <Morrolan> Should have made it replace "i" and "u" with "hurpdurp"
#641 [13:07] <hey> http://minecraftfreegiftcode.jimdo.com/
#642 [13:07] <Wug> !kickban hey
#643 [13:07] * Wug kicked hey from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ey :hey)
#644 [13:07] <Morrolan> !kb hey
#645 [13:07] <Wug> noap
#646 [13:07] <Morrolan> Pft.
#647 [13:07] <Boreeas> I also have this script
#648 [13:07] <Boreeas> pTPJ#Q|!Hc-/FY)'sCcg3L(q^(2q~.R@g8LSLqAER'(Ou?
#649 [13:07] * Morrolan pats GreyBot
#649 [13:07] <Morrolan> Next time we'll get him.
#650 [13:07] <Wug> GreyVulpine: doopers
#651 [13:08] <Wug> in lieu of missing voxelhead can you /bs assign #minecrafthelp something
#652 [13:08] <Morrolan> None can replace Vox. :(
#653 [13:08] <Morrolan> It'd insult his memories if some other bot were to try and take over his duties.
#654 [13:08] <Wug> GreyVulpine: and maybe set me +s so I can do it
#655 [13:08] <Wug> Morrolan: only until he returns
#656 [13:08] <Morrolan> ;)
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#658 [13:11] <Calinou> TIL a new command in IRC: /bs
#659 [13:11] <Boreeas> That bs
#660 [13:12] <Calinou> lol
#661 [13:12] <Boreeas> I bet hey's gonna come to #minecraft, too, seeing as he also was in #smp
#662 [13:12] <Morrolan> while we're at it, /ns /ms /cs and whatnot will work too, if the network supports it.
#663 [13:12] <Wug> Boreeas: hes a retarded miblet
#664 [13:12] <Morrolan> Don't use them in #help though. :P
#665 [13:12] <Wug> mib_* is banned
#666 [13:12] <Wug> I think?
#667 [13:12] <Wug> maybe just +q
#668 [13:13] <Boreeas> Morrolan: Technically, /quote ns is shorter than /msg nickserv
#669 [13:13] <Boreeas> So that should be told instead :P
#670 [13:13] <Morrolan> Then you'll hear "but what about clients which don't support /quote"
#671 [13:13] <Boreeas> Oh, right.
#672 [13:13] * Boreeas makes a client that doesn't support /msg
#672 [13:13] <Morrolan> Tempted to answer "what about clients which don't support /msg", but don't think it'd be too smart.
#673 [13:13] <Morrolan> Haha.
#674 [13:13] <Boreeas> Oh, wait, it exists
#675 [13:14] <Boreeas> It's called Telnet
#676 [13:14] <Boreeas> Actually, I recall #help giving out /quote commands for some things I think
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#678 [13:15] <Wug> Boreeas: they do that for help commands
#679 [13:15] <Wug> since a lot of clients hook /help
#680 [13:16] <Boreeas> Chatzilla sends anything but all-lowercase commands directly to the server anyways :P
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#683 [13:20] <turbil> How big does a banner have to be (measurements)
#684 [13:22] <Boreeas> For what?
#685 [13:22] <turbil> for this http://minestatus.net/
#686 [13:27] <Wug> turbil: that would be a question for minestatus
#687 [13:27] <Wug> #minestatus *
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#691 [13:28] <turbil> indeed
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#698 [13:34] <Funnyhair> Hi all. When I log on, I recieve the error message LoadLibrary failed with Error 126: the specified Module cannot be found. Can someone help me?
#699 [13:35] <Calinou> Funnyhair, did the game work before? do, or did you pirated minecraft?
#700 [13:35] <Funnyhair> The game worked before.
#701 [13:35] <Funnyhair> I have no pirated the game
#702 [13:35] <Funnyhair> I played it yesterday.
#703 [13:35] <Funnyhair> everything worked fine.
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#705 [13:38] <WUG> Funnyhair: did you just update java
#706 [13:38] <WUG> and are you on linux
#707 [13:39] <WUG> no, windows
#708 [13:39] <Funnyhair> yes. and No I am using Windows 8 beta
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#710 [13:39] <WUG> thats probably your problem
#711 [13:39] <Funnyhair> windows 8? i never had the problem before
#712 [13:39] <WUG> drivers are not quite up to snuff on it yet
#713 [13:39] <Redd> Hi everyone. Is this General Minecraft Help, or can one ask for Plugin Help here too?
#714 [13:39] <A1exander1> I have a server running on a mac however I want to bring everything over to the Windows machine. Is this possible without breaking anything?
#715 [13:40] <WUG> its possible it auto updated a graphics driver and broke itself
#716 [13:40] <WUG> Redd: plugin help is in #bukkit
#717 [13:40] <Redd> Thank you.
#718 [13:40] <WUG> A1exander1: yeah, just stop the server and transfer all of the files
#719 [13:40] <Funnyhair> WUG: Should I get a new Graphics driver then?
#720 [13:40] <Funnyhair> WUG: Should I get a new Graphics driver then?
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#722 [13:41] <WUG> Funnyhair: if there is one available. you could try rolling back to the previous one and see if it works then
#723 [13:41] <Funnyhair> ok thank you!
#724 [13:41] <A1exander1> Wug, so just copy and paste everything from my mac straight to windows and launch the server and it's good?
#725 [13:41] <WUG> A1exander1: yep
#726 [13:42] <A1exander1> Good lord, easy peasy!
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#728 [13:42] <WUG> one of the few benefits of java
#729 [13:42] <A1exander1> Do i need to have java updated on my windows machine though?
#730 [13:42] <WUG> it would help.
#731 [13:42] <A1exander1> K, I'll do that then.
#732 [13:43] <A1exander1> also when I made my server I didn't allot a max for ram, will it use what it needs ?
#733 [13:43] <WUG> I think there is a system setting somewhere that determines the default
#734 [13:43] <A1exander1> or I'm using craftbuckkit.
#735 [13:44] <WUG> dont worry about it unless you actually have an issue with it
#736 [13:44] <A1exander1> K it's only a small dedicated server anyways for 3 people over lan.
#737 [13:44] <A1exander1> so shouldn't be too resource intensive.
#738 [13:44] <WUG> yeah youll probably be fine without playing with it'
#739 [13:44] <clarjon1> A1exander1: well you won't know until you run it on the target machine.
#740 [13:45] <A1exander1> The machine is bare bones vista nothing running.
#741 [13:45] <clarjon1> 's nice.
#742 [13:45] <A1exander1> Although I'm sure you are quite right.
#743 [13:45] <clarjon1> Just copy the stuff over, and give 'er a test run :)
#744 [13:45] <A1exander1> I should've called in sick this afternnon to try er out.
#745 [13:45] <A1exander1> ;P
#746 [13:46] <clarjon1> Quickest way to see if there'll be problems, lol.
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#752 [14:15] <Floris> Hi
#753 [14:15] * Floris sais hi to aubot
#753 [14:16] * Floris loves aubot
#753 [14:16] * Floris likes aubot
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#754 [14:19] * Morrolan pokes Boreeas
#754 [14:20] <Morrolan> If he continues to spam again like yesterday, you might be able to get this satisfying feeling of muting him. :P
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#756 [14:21] <Eddie> Floris is back I see
#757 [14:22] <Eddie> SnooPING AS usual, I see.
#758 [14:22] <Boreeas> Morrolan: Awesome :P
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#768 [15:27] <mib_u0lxmu> hi
#769 [15:27] <mib_u0lxmu> anyone can help me with Java virtual Machine error?
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#771 [15:28] <Boreeas> mib_u0lxmu: Can you paste the error to http://pastebin.com please?
#772 [15:30] <mib_u0lxmu> ok, give me a moment
#773 [15:31] <mib_u0lxmu> how i paste the photo
#774 [15:33] <mib_u0lxmu> I just can run Java virtual Machine
#775 [15:33] <mib_u0lxmu> *can't
#776 [15:34] <mib_u0lxmu> http://mibpaste.com/lXqPu6
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#778 [15:36] <mib_u0lxmu> Anyone can help me with Java Virtual Machine error, it says me it couldn't create Java Virtual Machine
#779 [15:36] <clarjon1> ew, mibpaste
#780 [15:36] <clarjon1> can you copy the text of the error please
#781 [15:37] <clarjon1> and paste it to http://pastebin.com/
#782 [15:37] <clarjon1> and then give the resulting URL
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#784 [15:38] <mib_u0lxmu> http://mibpaste.com/OWgSFa
#785 [15:39] <mib_u0lxmu> http://mibpaste.com/otLnaN
#786 [15:39] <mib_u0lxmu> the last one, sorry
#787 [15:40] <mib_u0lxmu> http://pastebin.com/FY3tFm5k
#788 [15:41] <mib_u0lxmu> any solution?
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#790 [15:42] <Magius96> What's the best way to suggest new features?
#791 [15:42] <sugoi> Magius96: write a mod, make it super popular, have mojang buy you out
#792 [15:43] <mib_u0lxmu> anyone can help me with this? http://pastebin.com/FY3tFm5k
#793 [15:44] <Magius96> Right...that doesn't exactly sound feasible
#794 [15:44] <sugoi> Magius96: heh :)
#795 [15:44] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: i feel i need a bit more ... um - where does it print/say that?
#796 [15:45] <mib_u0lxmu> When I run Minecraft
#797 [15:45] <sugoi> that's when, but where
#798 [15:46] <mib_u0lxmu> At the desktop
#799 [15:46] <mib_u0lxmu> without a console
#800 [15:46] <Magius96> What version of Java do you have installed? I got that error when I tried installing 7...had to remove and install 6.*
#801 [15:47] <mib_u0lxmu> the last one 6 update 32
#802 [15:47] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: what os?
#803 [15:47] <sugoi> so the error is inside the minecraft laucnher? or in a pop up?
#804 [15:47] <sugoi> or an email..
#805 [15:48] <sugoi> :)
#806 [15:48] <mib_u0lxmu> I think at the minecraft launcher, because I can play at the website
#807 [15:48] <sugoi> it happens after you click login?
#808 [15:48] <sugoi> and in that same window?
#809 [15:49] <Magius96> I think what he was asking is....does the error appear within the minecraft launcher window, or does it appear in a seperate popup when you attempt to open the launcher?
#810 [15:49] <mib_u0lxmu> in a separete pop up at one from windows
#811 [15:49] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: when you try to open the laucnher? or after you click login?
#812 [15:49] <Magius96> Ok, so the launcher window never appears?
#813 [15:49] <mib_u0lxmu> when i try to open the launcher
#814 [15:49] <sugoi> ok
#815 [15:50] <mib_u0lxmu> Magius yes, it never appears
#816 [15:50] <sugoi> that was harder than it should have been :)
#817 [15:50] <Magius96> have you tried uninstalling java, reboot, insttall java 6.* reboot, then try again?
#818 [15:50] * sugoi doesn't work customer support
#818 [15:50] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: i agree with Magius96 ^ perhaps not every reboot there is that big of a deal
#819 [15:50] <sugoi> but it's a good path to take
#820 [15:50] <Magius96> sugoi, I'm a programmer by trade, I'm used to this
#821 [15:50] <sugoi> also, check `java -version`
#822 [15:50] <mib_u0lxmu> I have install, reboot, intalling again the last version anda nothing always the same error
#823 [15:51] <sugoi> Magius96: i'm a programmer by trade, i never have to work in customer support ...
#824 [15:51] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: what version does windows report you have?
#825 [15:51] <mib_u0lxmu> I have windows 7 home premium
#826 [15:51] <rymate1234> how much ram?
#827 [15:51] <mib_u0lxmu> 4 GB
#828 [15:52] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: goto your control panel, click on the "java" link there, then in that "Java Control Panel", click on the "Java" tab, then click the "view" button
#829 [15:52] <Magius96> Instead of installing the JRE, try installing the JDK
#830 [15:52] <rymate1234> O_o
#831 [15:52] <sugoi> Magius96: i don't think that'll help
#832 [15:52] <Magius96> On my alien I had to install the JDK for it to work on win 7
#833 [15:52] <sugoi> Magius96: i have my doubts as to why
#834 [15:52] <Magius96> I don't know why, but win 7 just wouldn't work with the jre for me
#835 [15:52] <rymate1234> but the jdk includes the same jre
#836 [15:52] <Magius96> possibly because I have visual studio installed or something
#837 [15:53] <sugoi> Magius96: it really shouldn't have fixed anything
#838 [15:53] <sugoi> prolly just a reinstall that fixed it
#839 [15:53] <rymate1234> that can't be it
#840 [15:53] <mib_u0lxmu> Sugoi i do what you said, plataform 1.6
#841 [15:53] <Magius96> Yes, the jdk does include the jre, but it also has a few other things that are used in a dev environment
#842 [15:53] <sugoi> rymate1234: me or him?
#843 [15:53] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: one listed?
#844 [15:53] <rymate1234> him an visual studio
#845 [15:53] <sugoi> k
#846 [15:53] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: only one listed?
#847 [15:54] <rymate1234> I'm slow on phone
#848 [15:54] <sugoi> rymate1234: :)
#849 [15:54] <mib_u0lxmu> yes, only one listed
#850 [15:54] <rymate1234> xD
#851 [15:54] <sugoi> product? 1.6.0_32?
#852 [15:54] <mib_u0lxmu> yes
#853 [15:54] <mib_u0lxmu> 1.6.0_32 i 've that
#854 [15:55] <sugoi> psh, you could try uninstalling java and reinstalling
#855 [15:55] <sugoi> but honestly, i don't know :)
#856 [15:55] <rymate1234> ^
#857 [15:55] <sugoi> it's "enabled" ? :)
#858 [15:55] <rymate1234> go reinstall Java
#859 [15:55] <mib_u0lxmu> yes
#860 [15:55] <mib_u0lxmu> it's with a tick
#861 [15:56] <Magius96> heh, the windows mantra, "If at first it doesn't work....reinstall!"
#862 [15:56] <mib_u0lxmu> Magius I have donde that like 10 times
#863 [15:56] <rymate1234> play in browser?
#864 [15:56] <sugoi> s/the people that write software for windows//the windows/
#865 [15:57] <sugoi> crap, reverse that
#866 [15:57] * sugoi has to pee, don't trust his code
#866 [15:57] <rymate1234> lok
#867 [15:57] <mib_u0lxmu> I can play in browser but I can't in the desktop
#868 [15:58] <sugoi> i wonder if your mc install is totally borked
#869 [15:58] <rymate1234> redownload launcher?
#870 [15:58] <sugoi> try deleting the laucnher
#871 [15:58] * sugoi kicks rymate1234
#871 [15:58] <rymate1234> lol
#872 [15:58] <rymate1234> i might be slow
#873 [15:58] <mib_u0lxmu> I have also redownload the launcher but nothing change
#874 [15:58] <rymate1234> hmmmmmmm
#875 [15:58] <Magius96> Like I said, on win 7, even though it's not supposed to be different, try installing the JDK instead of the JRE and see if that resolves it.
#876 [15:59] <rymate1234> tru the alternative launcher?
#877 [15:59] <mib_u0lxmu> Magius where i dowload the JDk
#878 [16:00] <Magius96> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
#879 [16:00] <Magius96> you'll see jdk mid screen next to jre
#880 [16:00] <rymate1234> Magius96, why would the jdk be better anyway
#881 [16:01] <mib_u0lxmu> Magius can you tell me the name at the left?
#882 [16:02] <mib_u0lxmu> JDK 6 update 31?
#883 [16:02] <rymate1234> yus, get that one
#884 [16:02] <sugoi> mib_u0lxmu: uninstall the other one first, btw
#885 [16:02] <rymate1234> remember to uninstall java first!
#886 [16:03] <sugoi> ha, phone man
#887 [16:03] <rymate1234> HE
#888 [16:03] <rymate1234> I'm on laptop now
#889 [16:03] <rymate1234> :P
#890 [16:03] <mib_u0lxmu> I know but which one I have to download
#891 [16:04] <rymate1234> JDK 6
#892 [16:07] <Magius96> Sorry, had to leave...yes jdk 6 update 32
#893 [16:07] <Magius96> version 7 is still kinda beta
#894 [16:08] <mib_u0lxmu> magius with netbeans?
#895 [16:08] <rymate1234> nope
#896 [16:08] <rymate1234> unless you plan on developing wiht java
#897 [16:08] <Magius96> netbeans wouldn't hurt or help
#898 [16:08] <mib_u0lxmu> is the JDK 6 Update 31
#899 [16:08] <mib_u0lxmu> ?
#900 [16:09] <mib_u0lxmu> with Java EE
#901 [16:09] <Magius96> update 31 will work, it should update itself to 32 later
#902 [16:09] <Magius96> Java ee, yes
#903 [16:10] <mib_u0lxmu> I should download the x64?
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#905 [16:10] <Magius96> if you have a 64 bit system, yes
#906 [16:10] <mib_u0lxmu> I have windows 7 x32 bits
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#908 [16:10] <Magius96> then no
#909 [16:11] <mib_u0lxmu> ok, now I unistall the one I have and install the new one
#910 [16:11] <mib_u0lxmu> give 5 min and i will make the changes
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#912 [16:12] <Magius96> no probl, 15 mins and I'll be leaving work
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#914 [16:12] <Magius96> ok, make that 45 minutes
#915 [16:13] <mib_u0lxmu> ok I start unistalling the one I have
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#917 [16:17] <charmander> I'm again hear
#918 [16:18] <charmander> Magius
#919 [16:18] <Magius96> Different name...didn't recognize you
#920 [16:19] <charmander> have already 71%
#921 [16:19] <charmander> should I create a domain
#922 [16:19] <Magius96> I don't think I would.
#923 [16:20] <charmander> ok let's try know
#924 [16:20] <charmander> launching minecraft
#925 [16:21] <charmander> know it says me
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#927 [16:21] <charmander> need Java enviroment
#928 [16:22] <Magius96> Ok...now, leave JDK installed, and install JRE over top of it
#929 [16:22] <Magius96> shoot for the same version JRE if you can
#930 [16:22] <charmander> ok, wait 2 min please
#931 [16:23] <charmander> installing
#932 [16:23] <rymate1234> wait
#933 [16:23] <rymate1234> I thought the jdk came with the jre
#934 [16:24] <Magius96> i know right....I already had JRE installed when I installed JDK, so I didn't notice
#935 [16:24] <charmander> no the same error
#936 [16:24] <charmander> couldn't create java virtual machine
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#938 [16:25] <charmander> nothing
#939 [16:26] <Magius96> hang on...researching
#940 [16:27] <Magius96> I'm assuming you're trying to use the exe to run the game, try downloading the Mincraft.jar
#941 [16:27] <Magius96> http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.jar?v=1285346089844
#942 [16:28] <charmander> I try running that one?
#943 [16:28] <Magius96> put it in a folder like C:\Minecraft\
#944 [16:28] <Magius96> open a command window by running "cmd"
#945 [16:28] <Magius96> type "cd C:\Minecraft"
#946 [16:28] <Magius96> finally type "java -Xmx512M -Xms256M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#947 [16:29] <Magius96> If that works, then use those last two lines to create a desktop shortcut manually
#948 [16:30] <charmander> i put the "
#949 [16:30] <charmander> ???
#950 [16:30] <Magius96> no, leave the ""s out
#951 [16:30] <charmander> it says me could not recognise
#952 [16:31] <Magius96> My wife informs me that she had to do that for her system, alternatively, you could right click on the jar and select open with, then navigate to the java executable
#953 [16:31] <charmander> and the java executable where it is?
#954 [16:32] <charmander> *is it?
#955 [16:32] <Magius96> mines at C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe
#956 [16:33] <Magius96> See folks, this is why I program in C# not java.
#957 [16:33] <charmander> nothing
#958 [16:33] <charmander> it appears the cmd 2 seconds and don't make nothing
#959 [16:34] <Magius96> what's the address to your java.exe?
#960 [16:34] <charmander> exactly what you said
#961 [16:35] <Magius96> ok, then type this in your command window, ""s included
#962 [16:35] <charmander> it appears 2 seconds
#963 [16:35] <charmander> where i have to type that
#964 [16:35] <Magius96> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx512M -Xms256M -cp "C:\Minecraft\Minecraft.jar" net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#965 [16:36] <charmander> as a bat?
#966 [16:36] <Magius96> Either in the cmd window, or in the "Run" dialog box
#967 [16:38] <charmander> nothign happens
#968 [16:38] <charmander> i do it loke a bat
#969 [16:39] <charmander> I think it is imposible
#970 [16:40] <charmander> so resolve this error
#971 [16:40] <charmander> well i 've to go
#972 [16:40] <charmander> thank you bvery much
#973 [16:41] <Magius96> ok...try the newest version jre next, and use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8znBVz8EFp0
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#977 [17:14] <zippity> Does anyone know if a Server Owner is able to automatically see the text that is placed on signs? or if there is a mod that a server owner can install that will allow them to automatically see the text on signs?
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#981 [17:18] <zippity> Does anyone know if a Server Owner is able to automatically see the text that is placed on signs? or if there is a mod that a server owner can install that will allow them to automatically see the text on signs?
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#983 [17:19] <Jyro> Hello!
#984 [17:20] <mib_vzh81r> hi
#985 [17:20] <Jyro> can you help me?
#986 [17:20] <WugBot> Jyro: (ww) Help you with what? Please describe the problem in detail.
#987 [17:20] <zippity> Does anyone know if a Server Owner is able to automatically see the text that is placed on signs? or if there is a mod that a server owner can install that will allow them to automatically see the text on signs?
#988 [17:20] <Jyro> well my minecraft is running slow on a new laptop that it should have no problem running..
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#991 [17:26] <zippity> Does anyone know if a Server Owner is able to automatically see the text that is placed on signs? or if there is a mod that a server owner can install that will allow them to automatically see the text on signs?
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#993 [17:27] <zippity> I wonder if anyone can help me.
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#995 [17:32] <ReDevil> hello
#996 [17:32] <ReDevil> i need help
#997 [17:32] <ReDevil> im using ubuntu and when i go play minecraft the window is black :S
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#999 [17:36] <NinjaKirby> I'm going to write a mod that allows you to run Virtual Machines within Minecraft, so players can experience problems inverted.
#1000 [17:36] <ReDevil> but i want to play minecraft in linux
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#1002 [17:37] <Boreeas> ReDevil: Using any mods?
#1003 [17:38] <ReDevil> no
#1004 [17:39] <Boreeas> Running a firewall or an antivirus program?
#1005 [17:39] <ReDevil> no
#1006 [17:39] <ReDevil> :S
#1007 [17:39] <Boreeas> Hmm
#1008 [17:39] <ReDevil> i have java 7
#1009 [17:39] <ReDevil> for linux
#1010 [17:39] <Boreeas> Ah
#1011 [17:39] <Boreeas> Try to downgrade to 1.6_31
#1012 [17:39] <ReDevil> ok
#1013 [17:39] <Boreeas> Java 7 sometimes causes problems
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#1015 [17:45] <ReDevil> i've installed java 6 and now it crashes
#1016 [17:45] <ReDevil> Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem.
#1017 [17:46] <Boreeas> Can you paste the error to http://pastebin.com?
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#1020 [17:51] <redevil> im back
#1021 [17:51] <redevil> http://pastebin.com/zT3CAWfu
#1022 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Try updating lwjgl for linux. Download it from lwjgl.org
#1023 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Replace the lwjgl files you get from there, into ~/.minecraft/bin and ~/.minecraft/bin/natives
#1024 [17:52] <redevil> ok
#1025 [17:55] <redevil> it crashes again
#1026 [17:55] <redevil> the report is in that link i sent
#1027 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Video drivers then. Are they updated?
#1028 [17:57] <redevil> i have posrt release updates drivers activated
#1029 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> The error has to do with linux not being able to initialize your graphics for minecraft correctly for some reason
#1030 [17:58] <redevil> im using the latest version of ubuntu
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#1035 [18:11] <gdea73> When I opened the Minecraft launcher, my GPU shut down and then my system reset. That's probably bad...
#1036 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Probably is..
#1037 [18:12] <gdea73> Well, never mind, it worked this time. Hope I didn't lose a screw under the motherboard or something. :P
#1038 [18:12] <gdea73> Well, never mind, it worked this time. Hope I didn't lose a screw under the motherboard or something. :P
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#1042 [18:30] <crazilon> When I go into a world, it crashes and flashes an error report for .25 seconds. I've relownled the client, removed .minecraft and everything. Help?
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#1046 [19:27] <A1exander1> Howdy ladies and gents.
#1047 [19:28] <A1exander1> Quick question. If we are 3 players but all on a lan server are we using up bandwidth?
#1048 [19:28] <A1exander1> We are all on the same LAN as well. Same household actually.
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#1050 [19:42] <t4nk579> Well I was wondering why my players can't walk through each other it glitches out for them while admisn are able to the plugins I have installed are
#1051 [19:43] <t4nk579> nvm
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#1053 [20:07] <h02> hello. i have a quick question if anyone knows the answer. are you allowed to open source mods you make that edit the minecraft source code?
#1054 [20:15] <Omega_Guardian> mods are all open code anyways, all Java stuff is except obscured maybe
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#1066 [21:26] <mib_qkrbd8> can anybody make videos of minecraft and put them on you tube or do you need specific permission?
#1067 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> no specific permission is currently needed
#1068 [21:31] <mib_qkrbd8> thank you
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#1080 [22:43] <|Anthony|> i need some help getting regions to work as expected
#1081 [22:43] <|Anthony|> right now, members can't build in their houses
#1082 [22:44] <|Anthony|> and guests can't access shops and the mob arena
#1083 [22:45] <zkxs> you might ask in #sk89q
#1084 [22:45] <|Anthony|> i've been
#1085 [22:45] <|Anthony|> :/
#1086 [22:45] <|Anthony|> and i've made forum posts
#1087 [22:45] <|Anthony|> one on bukkit forums and one on wg forums
#1088 [22:45] <|Anthony|> grasping at straws here
#1089 [22:45] <|Anthony|> lol
#1090 [22:46] <zkxs> Has worldguard worked before, or is this an initial configuration problem?
#1091 [22:47] <|Anthony|> i'm really just getting started
#1092 [22:47] <zkxs> Also, how are you making people members?
#1093 [22:47] <|Anthony|> permissionsex
#1094 [22:48] <|Anthony|> also adding the permissions group to the region members
#1095 [22:48] <zkxs> how are you typing the '/region addmember' command?
#1096 [22:48] * AmberK thought she was on bukkitdev a second
#1096 [22:49] <|Anthony|> /rg <id> addmember g:member
#1097 [22:49] <zkxs> and in permissionsex you have a group named 'member'?
#1098 [22:49] <|Anthony|> yes
#1099 [22:50] <zkxs> k, try this for me: give your users the permission 'group.test'
#1100 [22:50] <zkxs> then use '/rg <id> addmember g:test'
#1101 [22:51] <zkxs> then reload permissionsex, and see if it is working
#1102 [22:51] <|Anthony|> region.yml http://pastebin.com/yiuzDrSh permissions.yml http://pastebin.com/CYF427wb
#1103 [22:52] <|Anthony|> that should give you a better idea of what i have currently
#1104 [22:52] <|Anthony|> i appreciate the help zkxs
#1105 [22:52] <zkxs> Try the 'group.test' thing
#1106 [22:53] <|Anthony|> i do have group.member etc in each permissions group
#1107 [22:53] <zkxs> What happens if you don't use the group name
#1108 [22:53] <|Anthony|> like leave the group: empty in regions.yml?
#1109 [22:54] <zkxs> try making a new region, and making g:test members
#1110 [22:54] <|Anthony|> k
#1111 [22:54] <zkxs> then give your users the permission group.test, and see if they can build
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#1113 [22:54] <zkxs> make sure to reload permissionsex
#1114 [22:55] <AmberK> via /pex reload
#1115 [22:55] <AmberK> not /reload
#1116 [22:55] <zkxs> /pex reload should do
#1117 [22:56] <zkxs> I haven't uses pex, but I assume it is somewhat similar to groupmanager
#1118 [22:56] <AmberK> not entirely
#1119 [22:56] <AmberK> not to mention, /reload breaks numerous plugins, including but not limited to pex
#1120 [22:57] <zkxs> That is really weird... are your plugins the right version for your CraftBukkit?
#1121 [22:57] <zkxs> for me, /reload just lags the server on account of everything reloading
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#1123 [22:58] <AmberK> You might not see it
#1124 [22:58] <AmberK> however, this is how reload works:
#1125 [22:59] <AmberK> It creates whole new instances of each plugin, while unloading other plugins. Many times, these plugins are not made to be disabled and re-enabled via the default method, and it causes numerous issues that aren't reported to console. Not to mention, there is a high potential for memory leaks
#1126 [22:59] <AmberK> aaand now I'm tired
#1127 [23:00] <zkxs> That is good to know... You'd think that the bukkit developers would either document that better or make some kind of reloading api
#1128 [23:01] <|Anthony|> no good on g:test
#1129 [23:01] <zkxs> Oh, well, that's all I've got
#1130 [23:01] <zkxs> That worked for me on my server
#1131 [23:01] <|Anthony|> but he can build in the wild
#1132 [23:02] <zkxs> Does it work if you add his name manually?
#1133 [23:02] <zkxs> /rg addmember <id> username
#1134 [23:03] <|Anthony|> yea
#1135 [23:03] <|Anthony|> or even the pex group he's in
#1136 [23:04] <zkxs> huh, well at least worldguard is working...
#1137 [23:04] <|Anthony|> /rg addmember testarea g:member
#1138 [23:04] <|Anthony|> worked
#1139 [23:04] <zkxs> idk why it wouldn't work in your other regions
#1140 [23:04] <zkxs> unless you have some weird flag set that doesn't let anyone build
#1141 [23:05] <|Anthony|> i'm using entry and exit flags
#1142 [23:05] <zkxs> those should break anything
#1143 [23:05] <|Anthony|> and construct: OWNERS in the parent
#1144 [23:05] <zkxs> *shouldn't
#1145 [23:05] <|Anthony|> but the houses in the town are children and higher priority
#1146 [23:05] <zkxs> oh: region exit/entry flags have one issue I noticed
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#1148 [23:06] <|Anthony|> whats that
#1149 [23:06] <zkxs> The user has to d/c and rejoin before they update
#1150 [23:06] <|Anthony|> yes
#1151 [23:06] <zkxs> even if you have changed them
#1152 [23:06] <|Anthony|> that i noticed too
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#1154 [23:07] <zkxs> so your users can't even enter these regions?
#1155 [23:07] <|Anthony|> the default group (guests) are meant to stay inside the town, but are supposed to be able to go into shops.
#1156 [23:07] <|Anthony|> they do stay in town, but can't enter shops
#1157 [23:08] <zkxs> that might be an inheritance issue
#1158 [23:08] <|Anthony|> members are able to go in their own house
#1159 [23:08] <zkxs> do the shops have a higher priority than the town?
#1160 [23:09] <|Anthony|> town is 10 shops are 20
#1161 [23:09] <|Anthony|> that's all listed in the pastebins i posted
#1162 [23:09] <zkxs> Do the shops override the exit flags?
#1163 [23:10] <|Anthony|> they have their own entry and exit flags
#1164 [23:10] <|Anthony|> but basically entry: allow exit: allow
#1165 [23:10] <zkxs> and the shop regions are within the town region?
#1166 [23:10] <|Anthony|> yes
#1167 [23:11] <|Anthony|> town is set as parent and shop is higher pri
#1168 [23:11] <zkxs> that all looks correct to me
#1169 [23:16] <zkxs> could i have worldguard.region.info and worldguard.region.wand?
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