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#7 [00:26] <drift> can someone tell me the start-up command for minecraft from with in a linux terminal
#8 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> ;search linux
#9 [00:27] <WugBot> Matches for "linux": client iip launchd/linux linux/client lwjgl/update server
#10 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> :linux/client
#11 [00:27] <WugBot> linux/client: Cross Platform minecraft launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#12 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#13 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> :launchd/linux
#14 [00:27] <WugBot> launchd/linux: Use the following command to launch minecraft directly, without the launcher (relative to .minecraft/bin):
#15 [00:27] <WugBot> launchd/linux: java -Djava.library.path=./natives -cp minecraft.jar:lwjgl.jar:lwjgl_util.jar:jinput.jar net.minecraft.client.Minecraft
#16 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> Yeah. that's not it either
#17 [00:27] <GreyVulpine> It should be at www.minecraft/download -- under the linux heading
#18 [00:28] <GreyVulpine> er, www.minecraft.net/download
#19 [00:28] <drift> reason why is i want to watch it load and see why I am having a nosound
#20 [00:28] <drift> problem
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#22 [00:32] <zkxs> java -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -cp /home/michael/.minecraft/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#23 [00:32] <zkxs> ... assuming your name is michael :P
#24 [00:38] <drift> ^that worked
#25 [00:39] <zkxs> That is what is in my minecraft starting script
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#27 [00:40] <zkxs> Thus, the reason my username is present :P
#28 [00:42] <zkxs> I'm confused as to how Wug's modded launcher is valid... I'm 90% sure it is missing parts
#29 [00:53] <zkxs> I suppose I can but him about it later...
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#32 [01:29] <ShadowMaster718> How do I build something awesome
#33 [01:38] <Eddie> Use your imagination.
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#38 [02:21] <Velasa> I have an incrediably stupid question
#39 [02:22] <Velasa> can dispencers shoot coal?
#40 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Dispense, yes. Shoot, no
#41 [02:22] <Velasa> ok, how do I get it to dispence it?
#42 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Just place coal inside a dispenser, and send a redstone signal to the dispenser.
#43 [02:23] <Velasa> because I have the box, I have redstone attached to a pressre plate, i step on it and the line lights up and.. nothing happens.
#44 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Got a screenshot?
#45 [02:23] <Velasa> lemme get
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#47 [02:26] <Velasa> http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/Velasa/ghfhgfh.jpg
#48 [02:27] <Velasa> I tried looking up things aboput dispencers, but they're aimed at the complicated stuff, not people who're new to them
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#50 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> That redstone is not sending a signal to the dispenser
#51 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Notice the direction of the redstone wire
#52 [02:28] <Velasa> ooh
#53 [02:28] <Velasa> the minepedia was saying something about it not needing to attach directly
#54 [02:29] <Velasa> hooray! Thank you ^^ i got it to work
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#63 [04:37] <Wug> GreyVulpine: what were you looking for
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#66 [04:44] <binary_operator> Ok, this is my first time using a new IRC client, can anyone hear me?
#67 [04:44] <Wug> yes
#68 [04:44] <binary_operator> sweet, thanks
#69 [04:44] <binary_operator> sweet, thanks
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#71 [04:45] <Calinou> "hear"... you don't speak on IRC :P
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#74 [04:53] <CaptainMinecraft_> Hello?
#75 [04:53] <lemon-rev> yes?
#76 [04:53] <Calinou> hi
#77 [04:53] <Calinou> lmao
#78 [04:53] * Calinou adds this to "funniest quotes"
#78 [04:53] <lemon-rev> lol
#79 [04:53] <lemon-rev> please
#80 [04:54] <Calinou> done
#81 [04:54] <lemon-rev> good work now read it again :P
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#105 [09:41] <Shadow386> Every time I got on twitter, an hour always passed before seeing those XBLA codes. This is what i miss while sleeping and/or doing important things
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#115 [10:29] <A1exander1> I tried running a dedicated server last night over LAN offline with craftbuckkit server and kept getting this weird java.exceptiontimeout.
#116 [10:29] <A1exander1> Anyone else ever have this issue?
#117 [10:29] <Morrolan> Throw the guys in #bukkit a Pastebin of the error.
#118 [10:29] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#119 [10:29] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure the error is in a bukkit
#120 [10:30] <Morrolan> *cough*
#121 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> They luv their bukkits
#122 [10:30] * Morrolan stares at Grim_Reaper
#122 [10:30] * Grim_Reaper stares at Morrolan
#122 [10:30] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan \o/
#122 [10:30] * A1exander1 stares into oblivion
#122 [10:30] <Morrolan> Hugs \o/
#123 [10:30] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#124 [10:30] <A1exander1> Argh.
#125 [10:31] * Grim_Reaper rubs Morrolan's tummy
#125 [10:31] <A1exander1> Quick question. would you advise using bukkit or the regular multiplayer server offered by pripriotery MC?
#126 [10:31] * Shadow386 throws a bukkit at Grim_Reaper
#126 [10:31] <Grim_Reaper> I prefer bukkit myself
#127 [10:31] <Shadow386> A1exander1, bukkit isn't the only solution to online management ;)
#128 [10:31] * Grim_Reaper tosses the bukkit back at Shadow386 with a hug inside it
#128 [10:32] * Shadow386 eats the hug, burns the bukkit
#128 [10:32] <Grim_Reaper> Actually change that to an evil minecraft chicken >_>
#129 [10:32] <Grim_Reaper> That grows :D
#130 [10:32] <Shadow386> Nah we removed it
#131 [10:32] <Shadow386> too deadly
#132 [10:32] <Grim_Reaper> I know. But still ;-;
#133 [10:32] <A1exander1> Shadow, I'm trying to get it working offline so I don't burn up bandwidth.
#134 [10:32] <Shadow386> A1exander1, I meant server management
#135 [10:33] <A1exander1> I'm a MC newb, but have quite a bit of experience in tech. Buckkit was the first thing that popped up when I google searched.
#136 [10:33] <A1exander1> ;)
#137 [10:33] <Shadow386> Unfortunately :(
#138 [10:33] <Shadow386> there are other softwares though
#139 [10:34] <Shadow386> CanaryMod, spout, etc
#140 [10:34] <Morrolan> CraftBukkit is the most popular one though.
#141 [10:34] <Morrolan> CanaryMod, don't use it. It's old, nearly dead, baaaad.
#142 [10:34] <Morrolan> CanaryMod, don't use it. It's old, nearly dead, baaaad.
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#144 [10:34] <Shadow386> Morrolan, hey :(
#145 [10:34] <Morrolan> If you don't want to go for CraftBukkit, then pick Spout's server. :)
#146 [10:34] <clarjon1> xD
#147 [10:34] <Morrolan> Sorry Shadow386. ;)
#148 [10:34] * Shadow386 kicks Morrolan in the Morrolan
#148 [10:34] <Morrolan> Ouch. :(
#149 [10:35] <Shadow386> It's actually quite up-to-date actually :P
#150 [10:35] <clarjon1> crow is
#151 [10:35] <Shadow386> just trying to get multiworld working again, then the canary build would be out again. crows are up-to-date and working
#152 [10:35] <Shadow386> \o/
#153 [10:35] <clarjon1> and awesome site design :o
#154 [10:35] <Shadow386> <3
#155 [10:35] <Morrolan> I'd have sworn it would have died by now. oO
#156 [10:35] <Shadow386> nope, still alive and kickin
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#158 [10:35] <Morrolan> Was already smelling pretty badly when I checked it out a year ago, guess development picked up again.
#159 [10:35] <A1exander1> Ugh
#160 [10:36] <A1exander1> Closed the window.
#161 [10:36] <Shadow386> more or less
#162 [10:36] <A1exander1> Did I miss anything?
#163 [10:36] <A1exander1> ;)
#164 [10:36] <Shadow386> And yeah, it sucked back then, but it's picked up a bit
#165 [10:36] <Shadow386> Hell, I even learned more java :P
#166 [10:36] <Morrolan> Heh. :)
#167 [10:36] <Shadow386> A1exander1, disregarding that Morrolan said not to try it, but take a quick check for CanaryMod and see how you like it
#168 [10:37] <Morrolan> But... it's sooo unpopular!
#169 [10:37] <Shadow386> easier to set up for private use, but less supported with the fancy-smancy bukkit plugins
#170 [10:37] <Morrolan> All the cool kids use CraftBukkit or Spout!
#171 [10:37] <Shadow386> Morrolan, Better than vanilla \o/
#172 [10:37] <Shadow386> spout is just too sexy for this world
#173 [10:37] <Morrolan> Yea, I'll go fetch some coffee now, before I get even sillier. :P
#174 [10:37] <A1exander1> The only thing is that java exception with the time could possibly be some crappy network error.
#175 [10:38] <Shadow386> could be
#176 [10:38] <A1exander1> I'm gonna try some other tinkering first.
#177 [10:39] <Shadow386> good luck
#178 [10:39] <A1exander1> The world files, if I cipy them to any new server It acts as a backup?
#179 [10:39] <A1exander1> copy*
#180 [10:39] <A1exander1> copy*
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#182 [10:42] <Morrolan> Yep.
#183 [10:42] <sugoi> A1exander1: the "one" in your tab is tricky - i failed to tab complete your name, making me think you had left the channel
#184 [10:42] <sugoi> A1exander1: but, "yes", as Morrolan has now said as well
#185 [10:43] <A1exander1> I like to be tricky, keeps folks on their toes.
#186 [10:43] <A1exander1> ;)
#187 [10:43] <sugoi> A1exander1: note that if you have plugins for your server (e.g. via bukkit) you may have other folders with settings that merit backing up
#188 [10:43] <Morrolan> Especially userdata like the homes players have set etc might valid a backup.
#189 [10:43] <sugoi> A1exander1: well - i'm usually too lazy to actually stand on my toes :)
#190 [10:43] <Morrolan> Or just rsync the whole folder to a different location. *shrug*
#191 [10:43] <sugoi> Morrolan: good point
#192 [10:43] <sugoi> A1exander1: I just backup the entire folder
#193 [10:44] <sugoi> again, agreed ^ :)
#194 [10:44] <sugoi> i actually use a sym link to the jars, so my 'game' folder is just essentials
#195 [10:45] <sugoi> and then keep a separate repo of all the jars (server, plugins)
#196 [10:45] <sugoi> and update links as needed
#197 [10:45] <Morrolan> Neat.
#198 [10:46] <Morrolan> Oh, first one to start the "but Essentials is bloated" blablabla thingy gets a boot to his caboose. :P
#199 [10:46] * Calinou prefers commandbook
#199 [10:46] <Calinou> :D
#200 [10:46] <Calinou> essentials is nice, but nomsnoms your CPU
#201 [10:46] <Calinou> commandbook is a tad lighter
#202 [10:46] <Morrolan> I suppose it is, yea.
#203 [10:47] <A1exander1> I'm on my toes there. Have all that done already,
#204 [10:47] <Calinou> also, bukkit ftw. :P
#205 [10:47] <Calinou> canary is hmod legacy
#206 [10:47] <Calinou> hmod = improperly coded
#207 [10:47] <Calinou> (I used the first hmod while it was still in development)
#208 [10:47] <Morrolan> Heh, back then I was still playing only. :)
#209 [10:48] <Morrolan> "playing only" as in "not managing a server"
#210 [10:48] <A1exander1> The 3 clients all are legit copies, but we are trying to play in offline mode with no connection to the internet to preserve bandwidth... could this be causing the issue ya think?
#211 [10:49] <Morrolan> Won't preserve much bandwith apart from the intial login request sent to Mojang's authentication servers.
#212 [10:49] <Morrolan> Apart from this, shouldn't lead to such an issue.
#213 [10:50] <A1exander1> The server itself is not hooked up via WAN, no internet is running to it at all.
#214 [10:50] <Calinou> MC servers use a lot of bandwidth, you know :P
#215 [10:51] <sugoi> A1exander1: he's just saying, you're not saving bandwidth that way, except for the initial login (but this is extremely light overhead)
#216 [10:51] <sugoi> there's nothing wrong with your setup tho, definitely a supported use case
#217 [10:56] <A1exander1> As an aside when I run the server on my mac with 8 gigs of ram It all works fine.
#218 [10:57] <A1exander1> My PC only has 2 gigs of ram but you'd expect that'd be enough with only 3 clients connected at any given time.
#219 [11:00] <Morrolan> I really ought to fix that Samba share one day.
#220 [11:00] <Morrolan> As soon as I logged in with a user account, I can't access the public one anymore.
#221 [11:01] <sugoi> heh
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#224 [11:06] <Rosegun> hi
#225 [11:07] <Rosegun> why can't i type anything in the #minecraft channel?
#226 [11:07] <Morrolan> You'll have to register your nickname I think.
#227 [11:07] <Rosegun> owh :(
#228 [11:07] <Morrolan> "/ns REGISTER <password> <email-address>" will do.
#229 [11:07] <Morrolan> You'll then be sent a mail with further instructions.
#230 [11:08] <Morrolan> Oh, and don't include those brackets. And neither the quotes. ;)
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#232 [11:09] <Rosegun> I know morrolan thanks!
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#234 [11:09] <Rosegun> i'm registerd now!
#235 [11:10] <Morrolan> Okay. :)
#236 [11:10] <Rosegun> i just wanted to know when minecraft on xbox is released :P
#237 [11:12] <Calinou> meh
#238 [11:12] <Calinou> consoles + first person games = no just no
#239 [11:13] <NoValidTitle> ^
#240 [11:13] <Rosegun> hehe but i just wanna know :)
#241 [11:13] <Rosegun> but nobody seems to know the actual time! the date ok but the time not :(
#242 [11:14] <Calinou> why would you want to know the exact time? :P
#243 [11:14] <Rosegun> cuz i want to play it :P and idk if i'm asleep then x3
#244 [11:14] <Rosegun> or at school :P
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#246 [11:15] <NoValidTitle> So check when you wake up or after school?
#247 [11:15] <NoValidTitle> So check when you wake up or after school?
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#250 [11:20] <A1exander1> Just to ask again to reiterate if I have the server on my LAN and we are all 3 on the same lan it only uses the internet to authenticate correct?
#251 [11:20] <A1exander1> I shouldn't be buring up bandwidth transfering data for the game?
#252 [11:21] <Morrolan> If you disable the stats-gathering then yes, it'll only communicate for authentication.
#253 [11:21] <Morrolan> And for Minecraft updates, ofcourse.
#254 [11:21] <sammaelt> people want to play minecraft on xbox while they can already play it on pc because it feels like a "new thing" crap
#255 [11:21] <NoValidTitle> What about skins? (not that they are big)
#256 [11:21] <Morrolan> They do get transferred.
#257 [11:22] <Morrolan> Not sure whether they get saved locally, or whether it fetches a new copy every time you connect.
#258 [11:22] <sammaelt> yeah, what he said
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#266 [11:37] <NoValidTitle> I had a strange problem I'm not sure if you guys can help with. I did some googling and didn't have much luck with this specific circumstance... I have a dedicated server running Debian Squeeze and when I try to start vanilla MC it will load but people can't connect. The server console shows an error of "[SEVERE] java.io.IOException: Received string length longer than maximum allowed" BUUUT if I start the server with buk
#267 [11:37] <NoValidTitle> kit it works perfectly. Only vanilla fails.
#268 [11:38] <NoValidTitle> It's not the end of the world because I run bukkit plugins so I have no need to run vanilla but I still want to know why that happens.
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#270 [11:40] <Legendxz> anyone know something about this while purchasing minecraft with paypal ? We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method
#271 [11:42] <Calinou> Legendxz, you can't use paypal anymore to buy minecraft, afaik
#272 [11:42] <Calinou> don't know hwy
#273 [11:42] <Calinou> don't know why*
#274 [12:00] <clarjon1> NoValidTitle: make sure you're using the latest server jar from minecraft.net?
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#276 [12:01] <A1exander1> Heading home for lunch to test!
#277 [12:01] <A1exander1> Tlk soon!
#278 [12:02] <NoValidTitle> clarjon1, yup
#279 [12:03] <clarjon1> NoValidTitle: rename your server.log, and start fresh, and then pastebin? :)
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#281 [12:06] <NoValidTitle> Sure I'll do that when there aren't any players on my server or I'll setup another next to it and do that.
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#285 [12:12] <qwerty123> Hey guys, I'm constantly getting 'internal server error' when ever I try to join. Here is the console whenever I try and log in: http://pastebin.com/VTT48AkE. And here is my permissions.yml file (PEX): http://pastebin.com/8hm2uhGp. Anyone know why this is happening and how I can fix it?
#286 [12:13] <Dan> qwerty123, is it a bukkit server?
#287 [12:13] <qwerty123> yes, it is
#288 [12:13] <Dan> join #bukkithelp
#289 [12:14] <qwerty123> ok, ty
#290 [12:14] <qwerty123> ok, ty
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#294 [12:23] <Morrolan> Calinou - It works for buying a premium account, but got removed for gift codes. Reason being that people used stolen paypal accounts to buy giftcodes and resell them.
#295 [12:25] <clarjon1> hah.
#296 [12:25] <clarjon1> Dan: he never joined.
#297 [12:25] <Dan> clarjon1, he did
#298 [12:25] <clarjon1> he did?
#299 [12:26] <clarjon1> oh, bukkithelp
#300 [12:26] <Dan> yea cause #bukkit is general and #bukkithelp is support and im on both
#301 [12:26] <clarjon1> derp, i misread
#302 [12:26] <Boreeas> And #bukkitkat is the bukkit breakroom
#303 [12:28] <Dan> yea now if i can only get my ca bundle working on my server
#304 [12:28] <clarjon1> make sure to reload apache :)
#305 [12:29] <Dan> i have been and not my first server over all as i have 6 others
#306 [12:30] <Dan> and i dont reload, i restart to make sure everything sits well on Apache
#307 [12:30] <Dan> and i dont reload, i restart to make sure everything sits well on Apache
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#317 [13:43] <Wug> GreyVulpine: heeeeey
#318 [13:43] <Wug> your assistance is required
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#320 [13:52] <Altement52> Hello, I have a big problem with craftbukkit, please help me. Picture : http://www.upload.ee/image/2328969/Minecraftbigproblem.png
#321 [13:52] <Grim_Reaper> Please /join #bukkit
#322 [13:52] <Grim_Reaper> We do not assist with mod problems :p
#323 [13:52] <Altement52> okay thank you
#324 [13:52] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#325 [13:53] <sammaelt> hmm
#326 [13:53] <sammaelt> heya Grim_Reaper! how r you
#327 [13:53] <Grim_Reaper> oh hey. Fine and you?
#328 [13:53] <sammaelt> good
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#338 [14:22] <ec8or> hi
#339 [14:23] <ec8or> is there a takeover in #mcchatter?
#340 [14:23] * Kealper looks
#340 [14:23] <Kealper> uhh.. what do you mean by a takeover?
#341 [14:24] <Kealper> seems fine to me
#342 [14:24] <sammaelt> he meant is someone took the places of the usual op
#343 [14:24] <sammaelt> -is+if
#344 [14:27] <ec8or> just seems a bit fishy.. weird topic and +m
#345 [14:27] <Kealper> oh, didn't notice those, i just checked the op list... one of the other ops might have done something earlier
#346 [14:27] * Kealper looks again
#346 [14:28] <Kealper> channel isn't +m, it's only +Cnt
#347 [14:29] <Kealper> and i have no idea what's up with the topic... lol
#348 [14:31] <Scott> it's always randomness
#349 [14:31] <Scott> the channel is fine
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#351 [14:34] <sammaelt> yep seems fine
#352 [14:34] <sammaelt> the usual ops
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#356 [14:42] <LuckyAntoII> hello
#357 [14:42] <LuckyAntoII> i have a problem
#358 [14:43] <LuckyAntoII> i bought minecraft and it said purchase complete but it wont update my account
#359 [14:43] <LuckyAntoII> it didn't send me the email either
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#362 [14:45] <LuckyAntoII> drax
#363 [14:45] <LuckyAntoII> i mean w
#364 [14:45] <LuckyAntoII> i mean w
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#367 [14:57] <ShadyDeath> anyone help pls. minecraft keeps throwing this error at my head: LoadLibrary failed with error 126:The specified module could not be found
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#374 [15:22] <A1exander1> I'm on a mac, what's the quickest way to see what version of java I'm running?
#375 [15:23] <TheNoodle> java -version in terminal should work.
#376 [15:25] <A1exander1> ty kindly.
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#385 [16:00] <NinjaKirby> I'm stuck with 1.5Mbps it seems :(
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#391 [16:34] <zelda> for me, it keeps saying, user not premium.
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#396 [16:52] <whatu> good evening guys
#397 [16:52] <whatu> anyone had any luck trying to use Redpower 2 items with the Custom Recipes mod?
#398 [16:53] <whatu> because Custom Recipes doesn't seem to recognize their item IDs
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#400 [16:54] <Oicani> how do i register my nickname
#401 [16:55] <whatu> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=register+irc+nickname
#402 [16:55] <whatu> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=register+irc+nickname
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#404 [16:58] <PcJamesy> Internal client error: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP code: 502 for url: (long url)
#405 [16:59] <PcJamesy> anyclue what that might mean
#406 [16:59] <whatu> the http request it sent to the server was too long >_>
#407 [16:59] <whatu> what were you doing?
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#409 [17:00] <PcJamesy> just tring to connect to anyserver
#410 [17:00] <whatu> maybe server name was too long... or soemthing.
#411 [17:01] <PcJamesy> ok , i'll try agian later, even on a lan server
#412 [17:01] <PcJamesy> weird
#413 [17:01] <PcJamesy> never saw you in here before
#414 [17:01] <whatu> who me?
#415 [17:01] <PcJamesy> yah
#416 [17:02] <whatu> understandable. I just joined to ask a question
#417 [17:02] <whatu> no answer yet though :/
#418 [17:03] <PcJamesy> i don't know that mod so can't help
#419 [17:03] <whatu> I suspect that maybe that mod, Custom Recipes, can't read items from mod loaded from Modloader...
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#422 [17:09] <Boreeas> whatu: You may have more luck getting that question answered in the mods respective channel
#423 [17:12] <whatu> Boreeas: redpower channel, you mean? gonna give it a try.
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#425 [17:16] <zelda> so.
#426 [17:16] <zelda> i still get user is not premium after i try to log in, why could this be.
#427 [17:17] <zelda> im new in here btw.
#428 [17:20] <Boreeas> zelda: What's your minecraft username?
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#430 [17:27] <zelda> gloryyhd
#431 [17:30] <superkabii> ;haspaid gloryyhd
#432 [17:30] <superkabii> Ah, Wugbot timed out.
#433 [17:31] <zelda> yea i have baid.
#434 [17:31] <zelda> paid
#435 [17:31] <zelda> i got a E-Mail from moneybookers saying i need to verify my purchase.
#436 [17:31] <zelda> does Mojang go with Moneybookers?
#437 [17:35] <oldtopman> zelda: I believe so.
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#439 [17:35] <ma5t3rw1tt> I have a quick question, I was trying to make a editable book in minecraft and nothing happened, is this for a future update? I have build 1.2.5
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#441 [17:36] <ma5t3rw1tt> Anyone?
#442 [17:37] <zelda> So i guess i have to verify my payment to get premium?
#443 [17:37] <whatu> ma5t3rw1tt: as far as I know, that's only available in the latest weekly snapshot
#444 [17:38] <ma5t3rw1tt> And weekly snapshots I am assuming is test builds before an official release?
#445 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> right
#446 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Check out mojang.com
#447 [17:39] <ma5t3rw1tt> Ahh ok, I was just about to ask if anyone has any idea when this new update comes out?
#448 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> When it's rolled out to the client on official update? No. Nobody does
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#450 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> The snapshot is available right now, if you check out the mojang blog though
#451 [17:40] <ma5t3rw1tt> Will that mess up my current setup if I download that?
#452 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Got any mods?
#453 [17:40] <ma5t3rw1tt> no
#454 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Using only vanilla?
#455 [17:41] <ma5t3rw1tt> yep ^_^
#456 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> Chances are, it won't screw with your current setup. But then again, snapshots are test builds, so you never know.
#457 [17:41] <zelda> sigh
#458 [17:42] <ma5t3rw1tt> Interesting, alrighty that is all I needed. Guess I'll wait patiently
#459 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Just back up your .minecraft folder before you install the test build, and you'll have something to fall back to should minecraft bork
#460 [17:42] <ma5t3rw1tt> Thank you very much for the help
#461 [17:42] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#461 [17:42] <ma5t3rw1tt> Laters
#462 [17:43] <clarjon1> i find it quite amusing that windows doesn't let you make .foldername directories via Explorer, yet, allows them to exist in the filesystem specs lol
#463 [17:43] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#463 [17:45] <Scott> They need to create a successor to NTFS.
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#465 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> They already have
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#467 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> !wiki WinFS
#468 [17:52] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinFS
#469 [17:52] <GreyBot> WinFS (short for Windows Future Storage) is the code name for a cancelled data storage and management system project based on relational databases, developed by Microsoft and first demonstrated in 2003 as an advanced storage subsystem for the Microsoft Windows operating system, designed for persistence and management of structured, semi-structured as well as unstructured data.
#470 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> Oh, never mind then
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#472 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Oh that's right, they wanted to work on that for some windows version, but scrapped it
#473 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, what was the other one then.
#474 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> !wiki ReFS
#475 [17:54] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_2012
#476 [17:54] <GreyBot> Windows Server 2012, formerly codenamed Windows Server 8, is the next release of Windows Server currently under development by Microsoft. It is the server version of Windows 8 and the successor to Windows Server 2008 R2. Windows Server 2012 will be the first version of Windows Server to have no support for Itanium-based computers since Windows NT 4.0. A
#477 [17:54] <GreyBot> developer preview (a pre-beta release) was released on 9 September 2011 to MSDN subscribers. On March 1, 2012, Microsoft issued a public beta (build 8250). On April 17, 2012, Microsoft announced the product name would be Windows Server 2012.
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#480 [18:08] <Lavander> when does minecraft come out for xbox?
#481 [18:10] <Scott> GreyVulpine: ReFS is for file servers
#482 [18:12] <Scott> It seems to lack a lot of stuff too including compression o.o
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#486 [18:32] <Dan> what is the Creeper data number
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#490 [18:52] <sammaelt> id 50 hex 32
#491 [18:52] <sammaelt> Dan
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#498 [19:24] <Yoloaha> loo
#499 [19:24] <Yoloaha> I need help
#500 [19:25] <zkxs> with what?
#501 [19:28] <Yoloaha> So I cant connect to any servers for some reason
#502 [19:28] <Yoloaha> I can only connect to mine
#503 [19:28] <zkxs> What IP are you using to connect to yours?
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#505 [19:29] <mib_rd6g07> Hello?
#506 [19:29] <zkxs> Greetings
#507 [19:30] <mib_rd6g07> i had a question. Since they increased the height of the map to 250 whenever i spawn a new world, it doesnt seem to have anything above 120, is there a way to change that so the mountains and hills scale up also
#508 [19:30] <Yoloaha> My normal Ip
#509 [19:30] <zkxs> Yoloaha: Is your server running on the computer you're using?
#510 [19:30] <Yoloaha> Yeaaah
#511 [19:31] <Yoloaha> but I cant connect to any other servers ):
#512 [19:31] <mib_rd6g07> not a server, i play singleplayer
#513 [19:31] <Yoloaha> They give me the "cant connect to server"
#514 [19:31] <zkxs> Yoloaha: are you using 127.0.0.1, or 192.168.*.*?
#515 [19:31] <zkxs> Because if so, that would explain why you can connect to your server
#516 [19:33] <zkxs> Also, you don't need to feel uncomfortable about divulging your IP, because firstly, it isn't really a security risk, and secondly, I already know your WAN IP
#517 [19:33] <zkxs> mib_rd6g07: Not without mods
#518 [19:35] <Yoloaha> Im the using the second one : 192.168.*.*
#519 [19:36] <Yoloaha> I said I can connect to my server, but I cant connect to any other server
#520 [19:36] <mib_rd6g07> is there a mod that does that?
#521 [19:36] <zkxs> Is your server in offline mode?
#522 [19:37] <oldtopman> mib_rd6g07: I don't believe so, but I could be wrong.
#523 [19:37] <zkxs> mib_rd6g07: I don't know if there is one for single player. They have stuff like that for servers
#524 [19:37] <zkxs> Yoloaha: You've bought minecraft, right?
#525 [19:37] <Yoloaha> Yes
#526 [19:38] <mib_rd6g07> whats it called? if i had a name maybe i could narrow my search for a single player version
#527 [19:38] <Yoloaha> I can load up my server right now if you want to check...
#528 [19:39] <zkxs> Yoloaha: I don't think that would help. In server.properties, does online-mode=true, or false?
#529 [19:40] <zkxs> Right now, I'm trying to figure out why your server works when others don't
#530 [19:40] <Yoloaha> Hmmm
#531 [19:40] <Yoloaha> Which server property am I suppose to use? Sorry, Im new to this
#532 [19:41] <zkxs> server.properties is a file in the same directory as minecraft_server.jar. You can open it with notepad
#533 [19:41] <zkxs> I want to know what the option online-mode is set to
#534 [19:42] <zkxs> Also, in the past have you used a modded or cracked version of minecraft?
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#536 [19:42] <Yoloaha> No, and my option is set to true
#537 [19:43] <zkxs> curious. What happens when you try to join the server 's.nerd.nu'?
#538 [19:43] <Yoloaha> ? am I suppose to put that into the multiplayer ip?
#539 [19:43] <zkxs> yes
#540 [19:44] <Yoloaha> "cant reach server"
#541 [19:44] <Yoloaha> that is what is says
#542 [19:45] <zkxs> Do you have some kind of firewall software running?
#543 [19:47] <Yoloaha> Im pretty sure Im not
#544 [19:47] <zkxs> Did you set up port forwarding on your server?
#545 [19:47] <Yoloaha> Yes
#546 [19:48] <zkxs> What happens when you try to connect to 97.126.49.221 ?
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#548 [19:50] <Yoloaha> "cant reach server"
#549 [19:52] <Yoloaha> It is happening to every server besides mine
#550 [19:53] <zkxs> Have you been able to connect to other servers in the past?
#551 [19:53] <Yoloaha> Yes
#552 [19:53] <zkxs> When did the problem begin? Did you change anything around that time?
#553 [19:54] <Yoloaha> No, i started using mods for awhile but I have a brand new jar now
#554 [19:54] <Yoloaha> it started happening around when minecraft was in beta 1.5
#555 [19:54] <zkxs> Well, just in case try doing this:
#556 [19:54] <zkxs> ?? win/reinst
#557 [19:54] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#558 [19:54] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#559 [19:55] <zkxs> You can back the files up first
#560 [19:55] <zkxs> Really, the only thing you need to delete to reinstall is the 'bin' folder
#561 [19:56] <Yoloaha> Okay, I'll stry that
#562 [19:56] <Yoloaha> *try
#563 [19:56] <zkxs> Also, I must go now. I'll be back in an hour or so, but someone else in here could probably help you in my absence.
#564 [19:57] <Yoloaha> Okay, thank you very much
#565 [19:57] <Yoloaha> @Voxel, where do I type in that command
#566 [19:57] <zkxs> Vox isn't an actual human, he is a computer program
#567 [19:58] <Yoloaha> oooh
#568 [19:58] <zkxs> but the 'run' dialog should appear if you press 'Win + R'
#569 [19:58] <Yoloaha> So where do I type in that command? lol
#570 [19:58] <Yoloaha> Ooh
#571 [19:58] <Yoloaha> I thought that was only windows 7
#572 [19:58] <Yoloaha> I mean for Windows xp
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#577 [20:04] <Yoloaha> HELOLOOOOOOOOOOOOooo
#578 [20:07] <Yoloaha> ??
#579 [20:07] <Yoloaha> Rgw fyt kwdr
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#585 [20:37] <FuZion> So this is my first time using irc...
#586 [20:37] <FuZion> Is this where I talk into the channel?
#587 [20:37] <FuZion> guessing no?
#588 [20:39] <FuZion> I cant see if anyones saying anything, god i dont know how this works and i have a really important question about buying minecraft
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#590 [20:44] <Lukas777> hi, is someone able to help me quick :s i love minecraft but after all the V1.0 updates my computer cant run minecraft... :s
#591 [20:44] <Lukas777> its not a half bad computer, 2.0 ghz cpu, 4 gig of ram and 128mb graphics card...
#592 [20:45] <FuZion> Alright I'm going to ask this question in hopes that it will get through, because I have no idea if im doing it right. So yesterday my friend brought a prepaid mastercard attempting to buy minecraft, after numerous trys to purchase the game directly from the card, we figured that maybe it didnt take prepaid cards. He then opened a paypal account, and linked the mastercard to that acount and tried to buy the game like that, through
#593 [20:46] <FuZion> us that it didnt go through, and to return to the merchant and select a different payment method. Next we tried transferring funds from his card, to my account and then back, so that they were directly in his account and tried to purchase the game again. This time it showed the exacted same message as before, prompting us to select a different payment method. Is there something we are doing wrong?
#594 [20:46] <Lukas777> @ FuZion, try loading the paypal account with a moneypac card and then buy minecraft!
#595 [20:46] <Lukas777> worked for me :)
#596 [20:47] <Lukas777> didnt have to verify the paypal account either :D
#597 [20:47] <FuZion> Wont it do the same thing though? because the funds from the mastercard arent on the mastercard anymore, the are actually in his account (paypal balance) isnt that the same thing a paypack does?
#598 [20:48] <FuZion> But i dont really know what a papack is anyways so...
#599 [20:48] <Lukas777> idk....maybe a problem on mojang's side try sending them a email or something....
#600 [20:48] <FuZion> okay, what is their email adress?
#601 [20:49] <Lukas777> http://help.mojang.com/
#602 [20:49] <Lukas777> try looking around there :)
#603 [20:49] <FuZion> i've tried that link before, and i was never able to find an email address :(
#604 [20:49] <Lukas777> hmm
#605 [20:50] <Lukas777> lemme look around some
#606 [20:50] <FuZion> the only email address i ever found was support@mojang.com but that doesnt work...
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#608 [20:50] <FuZion> okay thanks
#609 [20:50] <Lukas777> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#610 [20:51] <FuZion> so i should email paypal?
#611 [20:52] <Lukas777> idk... :s
#612 [20:52] <FuZion> my friend did that earlier, so he is currently awaiting a response
#613 [20:52] <Lukas777> i would just wait and see what paypal says
#614 [20:52] <Lukas777> then :/
#615 [20:52] <FuZion> also, after doing alot of research, ive found that alot of people have similar issues, but with not just paypal, like credit cards and stuff too...
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#617 [20:53] <Lukas777> idk... :/
#618 [20:53] <FuZion> and its kinda useless because mojang gives NO easy way to contact them
#619 [20:53] <Lukas777> i really wish i could play minecraft :'(
#620 [20:53] <Lukas777> yh
#621 [20:54] <Lukas777> i lagg half to death for no good reason :'(
#622 [20:54] <FuZion> I might have a "sorta" solution to your problem
#623 [20:55] <FuZion> okay so you cant play it at all? or you can play it with horrible lag?
#624 [20:55] <Lukas777> can't play it at all
#625 [20:55] <Lukas777> i move about every 10 seconds
#626 [20:55] <Lukas777> just looking up and down or left and right
#627 [20:55] <xales> Lukas777: What are the specs of your computer?
#628 [20:56] <Lukas777> 2.0 ghz cpu, 4 gb ram, and 128mb graphics card :/
#629 [20:56] <xales> If Minecraft isn't running well, it's probably because your computer just can't handle an intense game like Minecraft.
#630 [20:56] <xales> Yeah...the graphics card sounds like the issue.
#631 [20:56] <Lukas777> LOL my computer COULD play minecraft
#632 [20:56] <xales> These days, 128MB is...not a lot.
#633 [20:56] <Lukas777> i think its 128 im not 100%
#634 [20:56] <xales> /Especially/ for a game like Minecraft.
#635 [20:56] <Lukas777> ima double check
#636 [20:56] <Lukas777> it worked for V1.0
#637 [20:56] <FuZion> okay, theres a couple of things you can do. 1 You can try downloading a mod called optifine and reducing every single one of the (video) settings to nearly nothing. But with lag so intense idk if that will work and 2 try playing in browser it might help too. And if you want try both at the same time
#638 [20:56] <Lukas777> and now it doesnt...
#639 [20:57] <xales> Lukas777: Yes, the increase of the version number reflects that the game has more things in it.
#640 [20:57] <Lukas777> o
#641 [20:57] <Lukas777> i know that..
#642 [20:57] <xales> More things make it harder to run, if it was barely running before, it could be enough for it to no longer run.
#643 [20:57] <Lukas777> im a programmer ok...
#644 [20:57] <Lukas777> i know this
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#646 [20:58] <Lukas777> :D
#647 [20:58] <Lukas777> it works nao
#648 [20:58] <Lukas777> in browser
#649 [20:58] <Lukas777> xD
#650 [20:58] <Lukas777> ty
#651 [20:58] <xales> ._.
#652 [20:58] <FuZion> yeah thats what i had to do on my old laptop, it uses up less of the computer's resources
#653 [20:58] <Lukas777> weird...
#654 [20:59] <Lukas777> you'd think in the browser it would lagg more
#655 [20:59] <Lukas777> thanks again guys and good luck FuZion!
#656 [20:59] <Lukas777> thanks again guys and good luck FuZion!
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#658 [21:02] <FuZion> alright so anyone know how to fix my problem, like is it common or am i making a stupid mistake?
#659 [21:03] <xales> FuZion: What's the issue?
#660 [21:04] <FuZion> alright im gonna copy and paste it one sec
#661 [21:04] <FuZion> nd brought a prepaid mastercard attempting to buy minecraft, after numerous trys to purchase the game directly from the card, we figured that maybe it didnt take prepaid cards. He then opened a paypal account, and linked the mastercard to that acount and tried to buy the game like that, through paypal. Once again with no luck. After this try a message displayed telling..
#662 [21:04] <FuZion> us that it didnt go through, and to return to the merchant and select a different payment method. Next we tried transferring funds from his card, to my account and then back, so that they were directly in his account and tried to purchase the game again. This time it showed the exacted same message as before, prompting us to select a different payment method. Is there something we are doing wrong?
#663 [21:06] <FuZion> ...
#664 [21:06] <|Kiikun|> you cant use prepaid cards for international purchases (wich minecraft is)
#665 [21:07] <xales> ^
#666 [21:07] <FuZion> we arent using the prepaid card for the purchase, after a few step-arounds we have more than sufficient funds, directly in his paypal account
#667 [21:07] <FuZion> like as his paypal account balance
#668 [21:07] <FuZion> the prepaid mastercard is empy now
#669 [21:07] <sammaelt> it should work if it can directly take the money out
#670 [21:07] <sammaelt> in the minute
#671 [21:08] <sammaelt> and no prepaid
#672 [21:08] <FuZion> it isnt though. Im going to do it again so i can get the exact error i get
#673 [21:08] <clarjon1> FuZion: are you trying to buy a giftcode?
#674 [21:09] <FuZion> no, there is not option to buy a gift code with paypal
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#676 [21:09] <FuZion> im buying the game directly, not a giftcode
#677 [21:10] <sammaelt> well you should have tried a real credit card it would have worked right away, you could have borrow one and give the cash right back
#678 [21:10] <sammaelt> ti dunno
#679 [21:10] <sammaelt> how to help you
#680 [21:10] <FuZion> k here is the first warning: This payment cannot be completed and your account has not been charged. Please contact your merchant for more information.
#681 [21:11] <sammaelt> hmm i dont know if you can pay with paypal...
#682 [21:11] <xales> FuZion: If you've tried to make many, many transactions, they could be denying it due to the fraud risk.
#683 [21:11] <FuZion> and the one below it is: return to merchant and try a diffrent payment method, We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available).
#684 [21:11] <FuZion> But it didnt work the first time though
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#686 [21:13] <FuZion> Hmmm....
#687 [21:15] <Omega_Guardian> lol. "we are between banks right now, so just makes checks out to "cash"
#688 [21:17] <FuZion> Alright so now im trying to send an email to paypal, but none of the topics address problems with trouble making purchases or anything of the sort
#689 [21:17] <xales> FuZion: Paypal is not the merchant.
#690 [21:26] <FuZion> who is? minecraft
#691 [21:27] <FuZion> ohhhh i see so its telling me to choose a different payment option (such as visa/mastercard)
#692 [21:29] <FuZion> So is there a problem purchasing minecraft with paypal? Also, is there any contact email address for mojang anyone might be able to offer?
#693 [21:34] <Thrae> FuZion: Paypal may be denying the transaction because it cannot properly authenticate the prepaid card with Mastercard due an international purchase.
#694 [21:34] <Thrae> FuZion: If you transfered funds into your Paypal account it may be just you failed too many times before and are blacklisted for 24 hours or more.
#695 [21:37] <FuZion> the funds are directly in the account, so the first thing you said wont be it, but im starting to think the second thing you said is right, ive had so many people tell me that. How long does the temporary blacklist usually last? and is there a way i can find out if i have been, because i haven't been told anything
#696 [21:37] <FuZion> wait i just realised something....
#697 [21:38] <FuZion> i dont think that its temporarily blacklisted, because we tried to purchase it through both his paypal account and mine, and when we tried on mine, it was the first time i ever tried to buy something and it still didnt work...
#698 [21:50] <FuZion> does anybody know of any other channels where i might be able to find some help?
#699 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> This is the best channel for http://help. help.mojang.com is the best place to get official assistance
#700 [21:52] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/ that is.
#701 [21:52] <Scott> FuZion: Paypal still honors restrictions set by card issuers.
#702 [21:52] <Scott> Use a real card or call your card issuer.
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#704 [21:56] <FuZion> Scott: what do you mean by they honor restrictions set by card issuers?
#705 [21:56] <Scott> Your card issuer blocks international payments so you don't buy anthrax/bomb ingredients/etc.
#706 [21:57] <Scott> If you call them and provide them with your social security number and other personally identifiable information, they will remove the restriction.
#707 [21:57] <Mercer> Hey guys, I am having a bit of an issue.
#708 [21:57] <Mercer> Any help would be great. :)
#709 [21:58] <Scott> Does it involve Minecraft, Mercer?
#710 [21:58] <Shadow386> Mmm spaghetti
#711 [21:58] <Scott> I have yet to eat dinner.
#712 [21:58] <Mercer> Yes it does, Scott.
#713 [21:58] <Scott> I'm not sure what I will cook.
#714 [21:58] <Scott> Mercer: Ohmy!
#715 [21:58] <Shadow386> Scott, I was up at 8:30 AM this morning, this is my first meal today and it's 10PM
#716 [21:59] <Mercer> Its a server connection problem...I think. But I have no idea what the issue is.
#717 [22:00] <Mercer> Once I log in, the terrain doesn't load and I fall into an endless abyss until the connection times out. My character doesnt die either.
#718 [22:00] <Scott> Does it only happen on one server?
#719 [22:01] <FuZion> Scott: But if the funds are directly in the paypal account (he transferred them to me, then i transferred them back to his account so that they were no longer on the prepaid card, but in his account, those restrictions are lifted correct?
#720 [22:01] <Shadow386> If so, that server might have a bad connection. If not, it might be your connection or pc being unable to load the chunk information it downloaded
#721 [22:01] <Scott> I have no idea if Paypal has any voodoo to track money.
#722 [22:01] <Mercer> Well I only play on one server, my buddies. And he has tried everything on his end. He has reset the server numerous times.
#723 [22:02] <Mercer> It is giving me 4/5 bars connection strength.
#724 [22:02] <Scott> I don't think you can purchase things without using a card if you don't have a verified Paypal account.
#725 [22:02] <Scott> Mercer: try a different server
#726 [22:02] <Scott> Shadow386: what's your server's IP?
#727 [22:02] <Mercer> Hang on.
#728 [22:02] <Shadow386> Scott, NEVAH
#729 [22:02] <Shadow386> smp.shadow-craft.net
#730 [22:02] <Scott> try that ^
#731 [22:02] <Shadow386> does greybot not have it anymore?
#732 [22:02] <Scott> I don't know.
#733 [22:03] <Mercer> 5.10.184.227
#734 [22:03] <Mercer> thats the IP below the "A Minecraft Server"
#735 [22:03] <Scott> sorry but we won't join servers here
#736 [22:03] <Scott> It's unsafe.
#737 [22:03] <Shadow386> Mercer, what's your in-game name?
#738 [22:03] <Mercer> Vixanus.
#739 [22:03] <Shadow386> ah so it was someone else
#740 [22:04] <Shadow386> meh, try my server
#741 [22:04] <Shadow386> server's ip*
#742 [22:04] <Shadow386> see if you still have issues
#743 [22:04] <Shadow386> which one of you is Npatterson >_>
#744 [22:04] <Scott> That name is familiar for some reason.
#745 [22:05] <Shadow386> Npatterson10 joined my server shortly after it was posted here :P
#746 [22:05] <Shadow386> and is flying?
#747 [22:05] <Mercer> Sure, i'd be happy to join and try it out.
#748 [22:06] <Mercer> What's the relevant information for joining the server?
#749 [22:06] <Shadow386> just click direct connect and use the ip smp.shadow-craft.net
#750 [22:08] <Shadow386> Mercer, did your friend open the port 25565 via his firewall and forwarding from his router to his pc
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#752 [22:08] <zkxs> isn't 5.* what hamachi uses?
#753 [22:08] <zkxs> my hamichi-is-evil senses are tingling
#754 [22:08] <Mercer> We use Hamachi. I asked about forwarding and he replied "I dont use forwarding we use Hamachi."
#755 [22:09] <Shadow386> I blame the Hamachi people
#756 [22:09] <Shadow386> their land cant hold my crops
#757 [22:09] <zkxs> Hmm, and the 5.0.0.0/8 has been allocated now, so hamachi now officially conflicts with the internet
#758 [22:11] <Mercer> So.....Hamachi is my problem?
#759 [22:11] <zkxs> It very easily could be
#760 [22:11] <zkxs> Can you connect to other servers?
#761 [22:12] <Mercer> yeah I just connected to Shadow's (By the way Shadow, VERY impressive buildings. O.O) And there was no issue.
#762 [22:12] <FuZion> k so shadow here is my problem:
#763 [22:12] <FuZion> nd brought a prepaid mastercard attempting to buy minecraft, after numerous trys to purchase the game directly from the card, we figured that maybe it didnt take prepaid cards. He then opened a paypal account, and linked the mastercard to that acount and tried to buy the game like that, through paypal. Once again with no luck. After this try a message displayed telling..
#764 [22:13] <FuZion> us that it didnt go through, and to return to the merchant and select a different payment method. Next we tried transferring funds from his card, to my account and then back, so that they were directly in his account and tried to purchase the game again. This time it showed the exacted same message as before, prompting us to select a different payment method. Is there something we are doing wrong?
#765 [22:13] <zkxs> Mercer: Then the issue is between you and your friend's server. To me, it seems likely hamachi is the culprit
#766 [22:13] <FuZion> and the part thats cut off at the beginning is "so my friend..."
#767 [22:14] <Shadow386> FuZion, sounds like the average buying problem
#768 [22:14] <Shadow386> I bought my minecraft via paypal before, are you sure you have the right amount of money on the card and/or the paypal? Also wait at least 2 days before trying the transaction again
#769 [22:14] <Shadow386> sometimes it takes 1-2 days to transfer money from a card to a paypal account
#770 [22:15] <Mercer> I'll let him know. Thanks guys. And Shadow, could I ask a few things about your server?
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#772 [22:16] <Shadow386> Hm?
#773 [22:16] <A1exander1> Hey all, how do I go about launching the minecraftserver (mac version) to launch with more ram?
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#775 [22:16] <A1exander1> I've read some instructions on it but can't really get it to work.
#776 [22:17] <Mercer> What is it you guys are doing in that server? It appears you all have very impressive cities and I saw a convo with someone about builders, so I am guessing there are jobs?
#777 [22:17] <Shadow386> A1exander1: java -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M -jar Minecraft_server.jar
#778 [22:17] <Shadow386> change the 1024 to the amount of megabytes of ram you wish to launch with
#779 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Mac_OS_X_Instructions
#780 [22:17] <Shadow386> ^ that too
#781 [22:17] <Shadow386> Mercer, no job system yet, but it's basically just a survival server
#782 [22:18] <A1exander1> This may sound dumb but I type that into terminal?
#783 [22:18] <Shadow386> you go on to survive and play with everyone, follow the rules, and enjoy your stay while building with good builders, survive with the survivalists, etc
#784 [22:18] <Shadow386> A1exander1, nope, into your keyboard
#785 [22:19] <Mercer> That sounds pretty cool actually. And is it possible to join this as an official member, Shadow386? How does that process work. (I saw something about registered members and portals)
#786 [22:19] <Shadow386> it transfers the data into your pc and if you have the terminal window open, it posts that data into the terminal which displays to your monitor into your eyes
#787 [22:19] <Shadow386> Mercer, ask delgane how to register
#788 [22:19] <FuZion> alright sorry i left for a second, the money on his account is almost double what is needed to buy the game, and it already shows that the money is in the account so i dont think i have to wait "2 days for it to transfer", or do i still?
#789 [22:20] <Mercer> In the server you mean, Shadow?
#790 [22:20] <Shadow386> yes, Mercer
#791 [22:20] <Shadow386> FuZion: Hm. And you've tried to use paypal as the method of payment?
#792 [22:20] <FuZion> yeah
#793 [22:21] <Shadow386> Hm. I forget the email you're supposed to email when you have issues while trying to purchase minecraft..
#794 [22:22] <Mercer> Thanks Shadow.
#795 [22:22] <Shadow386> mhm
#796 [22:22] <FuZion> yeah and i couldnt find it anywhere either, they dont exactly make it easy to find, there was one i found: support@mojang.com but it doesnt work (idk if it ever did)
#797 [22:23] <Shadow386> Well sorry, but i honestly dont know the correct email to email with purchasing issues. Someone else here might
#798 [22:24] <FuZion> does anyone?
#799 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> WHy is it so hard for people to by the game via credit card or paypal? Millions of people who have already purchased it don't seem to have such problems
#800 [22:25] <FuZion> i know, i but it probably in beta 1.3.3 and it worked fine for me (but i used credit card) but my friend is having problems
#801 [22:25] <xales> Shadow386: There's not an email any longer, the ticket system is what you are supposed to use.
#802 [22:25] <xales> As far as I know, anyway.
#803 [22:26] <Shadow386> xales, but but but
#804 [22:26] <FuZion> whats the ticket system?
#805 [22:26] <Shadow386> they read the tickets now?!
#806 [22:26] <xales> FuZion: It sounds like the problem may be related to fraud-prevention. Try waiting a few days and trying again.
#807 [22:26] <xales> Shadow386: Yes, but they give priority to people who have already bought it. :P
#808 [22:26] <Shadow386> Ah right
#809 [22:26] <xales> (and people who can read the instructions and put the right subject in)
#810 [22:27] <Shadow386> I HAZ PROBLEM HALP
#811 [22:27] <FuZion> BUT: we tried to buy it multiple times through his paypal, and then transferred them funds to my account and then tried that and it still didnt work
#812 [22:27] <FuZion> so idk if its fraud prevention
#813 [22:27] <xales> FuZion: Again, that makes it sound *more* like fraud prevention.
#814 [22:27] <FuZion> ?
#815 [22:28] <FuZion> can they track transfers of money?
#816 [22:29] <Shadow386> Automated system
#817 [22:30] <FuZion> so yes? also is there any where to check if it actually is fraud prevention? and if it is, how long should he wait until trying the purchase again?
#818 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> 48 hours
#819 [22:31] <FuZion> okay
#820 [22:31] <FuZion> and is there any way to check if it actually is fraud prevention, like does paypal send an email to the address i used to make the account?
#821 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> if they have sent an email, it might have accidentally ended up in your spam area
#822 [22:32] <FuZion> okay ill check that right now
#823 [22:34] <FuZion> alright no theres nothing there
#824 [22:35] <FuZion> alright, to check if it actually is fraud prevention, he might buy like a 5o cent sticker off of ebay or something haha
#825 [22:38] <xales> FuZion: That's not exactly the best idea.
#826 [22:38] <xales> Just wait 48 hours, and then try again.
#827 [22:38] <FuZion> haha ok
#828 [22:38] <FuZion> ill tell him
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#832 [23:08] <diathex> i've had MC for five days, played it a bunch. i went to change my skin before i started playing -- now it says user not premium. and MC.net has seemed to total forget i bought the game. is there a way to use my trasaction ID, or CC receipt number to get the game back.
#833 [23:08] <diathex> i'm a bit confuzzled.
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#835 [23:14] <Omega_Guardian> google for minecraft, the first result should be the legit site.
#836 [23:15] <Omega_Guardian> the site every time I used it though is way buggy with remembering I logged in
#837 [23:15] <diathex> i did send mojang and email about my problem, and all that was sent back was a automated email of my credit card transaction.
#838 [23:17] <diathex> i bought MC from MC.net, got a bill from money bookers saying "yes i did indeed get a bill" (they didn't charge me twice)
#839 [23:17] <Dan> diathex, well sometimes the bank rejects the payment and then that causes your account to switch back to free so look in your bank statement
#840 [23:18] <diathex> i did, i'm billed. for 26. (whatever) dollars.
#841 [23:18] <Omega_Guardian> http://www.minecraft.net/profile , fill in the info if it's not there, click log in, click profile up near top middle of the screen, and this time it showed the change skin interface
#842 [23:20] <diathex> five days ago, i got a transaction was successful.
#843 [23:22] <FuZion> Diathex: I'm having problems simply purchasing the game, may i ask what you used to pay for it (paypal, visa, mastercard?)
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#847 [23:45] <zucchini> i tried to buy minecraft but when i put in my stuff it told me that my card is disabled for 24 hors
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#850 [23:56] <senastheminer> Where do i find Risucraft?
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#852 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> Where do you find Risucraft? In the #risucraft channel
#853 [23:58] <senastheminer> And how do i get there? im a bit of a noob when it comes to this sort of thing
#854 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> In the same way that you got to this #minecrafthelp channel
#855 [23:59] <senastheminer> i just clicked on a link to this thing
#856 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> /join #risucraft
#857 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> /join #risucraft
#858 [23:59] <langkid1> .____.
#859 [23:59] <senastheminer> oh thanks
#860 [23:59] <langkid1> :]