#1 [00:02] <yellowduck360> Anyone know how to fix this?
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#3 [00:20] <Jarwain> Could someone do me a favor? Just add 131.91.97.19:1720 and tell me if the server is online or not
#4 [00:21] <puffrfish> !check 131.91.97.19:1720
#5 [00:21] <puffrfish> ;check 131.91.97.19:1720
#6 [00:21] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:1720 does not host a minecraft server.
#7 [00:21] <Jarwain> darn
#8 [00:22] <Jarwain> ;check 206.217.128.14:25565
#9 [00:22] <WugBot> 206.217.128.14:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Welcome! (3/51)
#10 [00:22] <Jarwain> Okay, gotta find a working port then
#11 [00:22] <puffrfish> looks like it works
#12 [00:23] <Jarwain> the 206 is a different server I was just testing, because I know its online. The 131 is my server
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#14 [00:23] <Jarwain> I was testing the command
#15 [00:23] <puffrfish> ah, okay
#16 [00:23] <Jarwain> I'm trying to find a port that mc will bind to, but is already portfowarded by default
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#20 [00:36] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:1720
#21 [00:36] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:1720 does not host a minecraft server.
#22 [00:37] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:25565
#23 [00:37] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:25565 is accepting connections.
#24 [00:38] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:25565
#25 [00:38] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:25565 is accepting connections.
#26 [00:38] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19
#27 [00:38] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:25565 is accepting connections.
#28 [00:38] <Jarwain> ,,,
#29 [00:38] <Jarwain> ...
#30 [00:38] <Jarwain> ;check 206.217.128.14:25565
#31 [00:38] <WugBot> 206.217.128.14:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Welcome! (2/51)
#32 [00:38] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:25565
#33 [00:38] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:25565 is accepting connections.
#34 [00:39] <Jarwain> I think theres a typo, the sentence is missing a 'not'
#35 [00:39] <puffrfish> ;check Jarwain
#36 [00:39] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 174.141.182.242:25565 (Timed out)
#37 [00:39] <puffrfish> doesn't look like it is
#38 [00:39] <Jarwain> Hm
#39 [00:40] <Jarwain> 25565 is a closed port, so why doesn't it time out
#40 [00:41] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:8126
#41 [00:41] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:8126 is accepting connections.
#42 [00:41] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:8080
#43 [00:41] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:8080 is accepting connections.
#44 [00:41] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:80
#45 [00:41] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:80 does not host a minecraft server.
#46 [00:42] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:8080
#47 [00:42] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:8080 is accepting connections.
#48 [00:42] <Jarwain> Open, unused ports
#49 [00:42] <Jarwain> Hm
#50 [00:42] <puffrfish> 80 and 8080 are for httpd
#51 [00:43] <Jarwain> 80 is taken, 8080 is not
#52 [00:43] <Jarwain> however, 80 is fowarded, 8080 is not
#53 [00:43] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:8084
#54 [00:43] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:8084 is accepting connections.
#55 [00:43] <puffrfish> seems like it says that for all of them on that IP
#56 [00:44] <Jarwain> Either accepting connections or does not host
#57 [00:44] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:1234
#58 [00:44] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:1234 is accepting connections.
#59 [00:44] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:2323232
#60 [00:44] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:2323232 is accepting connections.
#61 [00:44] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:1
#62 [00:45] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:1 is accepting connections.
#63 [00:45] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:22
#64 [00:45] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:22 is accepting connections.
#65 [00:45] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:21
#66 [00:45] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:21 is accepting connections.
#67 [00:45] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:6667
#68 [00:45] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:6667 is accepting connections.
#69 [00:45] <puffrfish> yeah, definitely just saying yes for all
#70 [00:45] <Jarwain> I need to figure out which are actually being fowarded
#71 [00:46] <Jarwain> ;check 131.91.97.19:6667
#72 [00:46] <WugBot> 131.91.97.19:6667 is accepting connections.
#73 [00:46] <puffrfish> you can PM WugBot to avoid spamming the room
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#75 [00:46] <Jarwain> Ah, sorry
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#77 [01:51] <Jarwain> I give up on this train of thought, time to think of a different method
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#90 [02:18] <Jarwain> Anyone have experience with using OVH servers for minecraft?
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#98 [03:09] <dexray15> kealper :D
#99 [03:09] <dexray15> hey kealper
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#111 [04:20] <xorcon> Hallo jemand anwesend der Deutsch spricht?
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#117 [04:38] <HerrJordan> I'm a little bit confused by the way mobs spawn. If I am building an underground shelter, is there any way I can ensure mobs will not spawn inside of it?
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#124 [05:12] <mich356c> Have someone found a fix to the hamachi problem? That friends cant connect but you can?
#125 [05:12] <mich356c> With the Hamachi IP, no local host
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#132 [05:26] <bobd0le> water elevators dont work at all anymore?
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#135 [05:35] <Hatrix> Hello
#136 [05:35] <Hatrix> Can we specify a diameter instead of a radius with the command //sphere ?
#137 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> diameter = radius * 2
#138 [05:42] <Hatrix> Not really
#139 [05:43] <Hatrix> If I want a diameter of 11, what do I do ?
#140 [05:43] <DiskDaemon> A diameter of 11 is a radius of 5.5
#141 [05:44] <Hatrix> I tried but I can not make a sphere with a center of 4 blocs instead of one
#142 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> Is there something that you're not telling us here? Is there a tool that you are using?
#143 [05:45] <Hatrix> Only world edit
#144 [05:45] <Hatrix> oh
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#147 [05:51] <DiskDaemon> v
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#156 [07:02] <silenn> .teams
#157 [07:02] <silenn> Can I change my minecraft account name?
#158 [07:02] <Calinou> silenn, nope
#159 [07:03] <Calinou> mojang *might* add this, though.
#160 [07:03] <Calinou> currently you can't
#161 [07:03] <silenn> Oh, then if I message mojang, it's possible?
#162 [07:04] <Calinou> nope.
#163 [07:10] <DiskDaemon> Mojang might provide the ability at some later stage (3 months, a year, who knows)
#164 [07:11] <DiskDaemon> In the mean-time you can create a different account with that different account name that you want.
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#166 [07:16] <Aster> I would doubt Mojang would add that, imagine all the ban-evaders.
#167 [07:17] <Brottweiler> Aster : Mollstam(?) said they'd probably add it.
#168 [07:17] <Brottweiler> But I heard something about it beeing like you can only change it once or something.
#169 [07:17] <Brottweiler> And it would not go pass the banlists.
#170 [07:17] <Aster> Really?
#171 [07:18] <Aster> Even for stuff like MCBans and MCBlockit?
#172 [07:18] <Brottweiler> Yeah, I don't know how though
#173 [07:18] <superkabii> Players would get a unique ID for the ban systems to use, apparently
#174 [07:18] <Brottweiler> Now you ban either the username or the IP, but if you change your username you probably still will be banned due to your Mojang account beeing banned or something maybe?
#175 [07:18] <Brottweiler> superkabii : Yeah that probably
#176 [07:19] <Aster> I see.
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#179 [07:21] <silenn> Disk, if I'll create other account, I won't be premium. :>
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#184 [07:33] <Calinou> <Aster> Even for stuff like MCBans and MCBlockit?
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#186 [07:33] <Calinou> a possible way of making it would be to add two separate names: a "login name" and "nickname"
#187 [07:33] <Calinou> your login name never changes. it's used for banlists, op lists, etc
#188 [07:33] <Calinou> your nickname could be changeable :P
#189 [07:34] <Aster> I was thinking of that.
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#195 [09:10] <zigge555> Hi! I'm a guy that can not log in to my friends minecraft server. (bukkit) i have got in before. he got this error:
#196 [09:11] <zigge555> 14:42:24 [INFO] zigge555 [/83.252.192.117:61129] logged in with entity id 2674 at ([world] 1316.699999988079, 21.08066875168373, 693.6009164150346)
#197 [09:12] <zigge555> 14:42:45 [SEVERE] java.net.SocketException: Broken pipe
#198 [09:13] <zigge555> 14:42:46 [SEVERE] at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite0(Native Method)
#199 [09:13] <zigge555> 14:42:46 [SEVERE] at java.net.SocketOutputStream.socketWrite(SocketOutputStream.java:92)
#200 [09:13] <zigge555> 14:42:46 [SEVERE] at java.net.SocketOutputStream.write(SocketOutputStream.java:136)
#201 [09:13] <zigge555> 14:42:46 [SEVERE] at java.io.BufferedOutputStream.flushBuffer(BufferedOutputStream.java:65)
#202 [09:13] <zigge555> 14:42:46 [SEVERE] at java.io.BufferedOutputStream.flush(BufferedOutputStream.java:123)
#203 [09:14] <zigge555> 14:42:46 [SEVERE] at java.io.DataOutputStream.flush(DataOutputStream.java:106)
#204 [09:14] <zigge555> net.minecraft.server.NetworkWriterThread.run(SourceFile:103)
#205 [09:14] <zigge555> anyone knows how to fix?
#206 [09:15] <DiskDaemon> go to #bukkit
#207 [09:15] <DiskDaemon> or to #bukkithelp
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#209 [09:20] <ikinicknick> Hey
#210 [09:21] <ikinicknick> I've got an annoying problem over here :/
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#212 [09:22] <ikinicknick> Whenever i try to buy MC with paypal, it says:This payment cannot be completed and your account has not been charged. Please contact your merchant for more information.
#213 [09:26] <ikinicknick> Hellloo?
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#218 [09:31] <alnkpa> !login
#219 [09:31] <pyre> !login
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#223 [09:58] <Andreades> hello
#224 [09:58] <Andreades> i'm having trouble connecting to minecraft.net
#225 [09:58] <Andreades> it just says it cant connect
#226 [09:59] <Andreades> the ping to the site is successful
#227 [09:59] <Andreades> i have tried to remove all and download minecraft.exe again
#228 [09:59] <Andreades> still does so
#229 [09:59] <Andreades> what can i do?
#230 [09:59] <Andreades> anybody can help?
#231 [10:03] <Andreades> thank you
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#238 [10:29] <JavaGuest214> hello
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#241 [10:47] <Magix> Can a cactus grow if there's a block above it? i.e if it would grow, it would be touching the block that's above itõ
#242 [10:47] <Calinou> Magix, nope
#243 [10:48] <Calinou> cactus cannot grow "in" any block, solid or not, opaque or not
#244 [10:48] <Magix> I don't mean 'in' a block, I mean 'below' a block
#245 [10:50] <DiskDaemon> The block then detatches from the catcus as an item, doesn't it?
#246 [10:50] <Magix> http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2279/liekdiz.png
#247 [10:50] <Magix> can this happen naturally, is what I'm asking
#248 [10:50] <Magix> you can place that third cactus manually, but I'm not sure if it can actually grow there
#249 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> Magix: no, it can't
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#252 [11:11] <Magix> remind me to not ever listen to DiskDaemon
#253 [11:12] <Magix> since I just tested it and it can
#254 [11:16] <DiskDaemon> It can? I can't ahve waited long enough in my testing. Thanks for confirming, and correcting
#255 [11:19] <Magix> yea they're just slow
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#258 [11:34] <Calinou> oh, Magix, it can
#259 [11:34] <Calinou> since always
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#267 [12:04] <Antonn> hey
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#269 [12:05] <Antonn> if i've bought the pc version of minecraft, do I have to buy it again for xbox?
#270 [12:05] <Grim_Reaper> Antonn yes
#271 [12:05] <Antonn> ok..
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#292 [13:01] <SaNFouR> hi
#293 [13:04] <Wug> hello
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#300 [13:30] <wildlifechorus> I cant purchase the game
#301 [13:30] <wildlifechorus> been trying for the last 2 days :(
#302 [13:30] <wildlifechorus> wanna play
#303 [13:31] <wildlifechorus> can someone help ?
#304 [13:31] <Boreeas> What error do you get?
#305 [13:31] <wildlifechorus> that the card cannot be deducted
#306 [13:31] <wildlifechorus> something like that
#307 [13:31] <wildlifechorus> my card is valid
#308 [13:31] <wildlifechorus> mastercard
#309 [13:31] <wildlifechorus> tried with paypal too but no luck
#310 [13:34] <wildlifechorus> should i try again ?
#311 [13:35] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, maybe your bank has triggered fraud prevention
#312 [13:35] <wildlifechorus> with paypal: There was an error processing the payment
#313 [13:35] <wildlifechorus> why would they do that ?
#314 [13:36] <wildlifechorus> I'm verified @ Paypal
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#316 [13:37] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, oh, that often happens
#317 [13:38] <Calinou> it seems to be occasional
#318 [13:38] <wildlifechorus> should I call them ?
#319 [13:38] <Calinou> unrelated, mojang has an help page: http://help.mojang.com/
#320 [13:38] <Calinou> mojang doesn't have a phone number, they have email support
#321 [13:39] <wildlifechorus> call my bank
#322 [13:42] <wildlifechorus> i'm with my bank on the phone
#323 [13:43] <wildlifechorus> would really like to start playing the game
#324 [13:44] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, tell them: "I'm trying to buy something on paypal, but it says "there was an error processing the payment""
#325 [13:44] <Calinou> maybe this could be paypal related
#326 [13:44] <Calinou> but it could be a fraud prevention too
#327 [13:51] <wildlifechorus> ok
#328 [13:52] <wildlifechorus> will do that
#329 [13:53] <wildlifechorus> they say everything is ok
#330 [13:53] <wildlifechorus> on their part :S
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#332 [13:54] <wildlifechorus> gonna try to add funds and pay like that
#333 [13:57] <wildlifechorus> bah cant add funds with credit card
#334 [13:57] <wildlifechorus> only bank transfer
#335 [13:58] <wildlifechorus> this sucks
#336 [13:58] <wildlifechorus> any other way to purchase minecraft ?
#337 [13:59] <AlmtyBob> call the number on the back of your MasterCard
#338 [13:59] <AlmtyBob> tell them what you're trying to purchase and what the error is
#339 [13:59] <AlmtyBob> you can also try to pay through paypal without logging in, it's what I normally do
#340 [14:05] <|Anthony|> trying to find the id for some things... like wood slabs, but it seems the info here is not 100% correct
#341 [14:05] <|Anthony|> http://www.minecraftinfo.com/IDList.htm
#342 [14:06] <|Anthony|> is there another source for block ids?
#343 [14:06] <Calinou> we have a semi-official wiki for a reason... :P
#344 [14:06] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Data_values
#345 [14:06] <wildlifechorus> Your payment of 19.95 EUR has been successfully processed
#346 [14:06] <wildlifechorus> :D
#347 [14:06] <wildlifechorus> yay
#348 [14:06] <Calinou> "dec" IDs are probably the ones you want.
#349 [14:07] <Calinou> "hex" are only if you want to hack around your level.dat usualy
#350 [14:07] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, great :) please don't use enter as punctuation
#351 [14:07] <wildlifechorus> sure. what do I do now ?
#352 [14:08] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, download the full game: http://www.minecraft.net/download
#353 [14:08] <Calinou> you need java installed on your computer
#354 [14:08] <wildlifechorus> Calinou thanks :) for all the help
#355 [14:08] <Calinou> the wiki has a "tutorials" page: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials
#356 [14:09] <Calinou> read "beginner's guide" ;)
#357 [14:09] <Moose> wildlifechorus
#358 [14:09] <Moose> I could help you out; I could run a server and play with you for a while
#359 [14:09] <wildlifechorus> will do ;)
#360 [14:09] <wildlifechorus> I think i'm going to explore a bit :)
#361 [14:09] <Moose> my girlfriend isn't back from her friend's house, so i have until then :p
#362 [14:10] <Calinou> Moose, can I play too? :P
#363 [14:10] <Moose> sure.
#364 [14:10] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, you should probably start playing singleplayer for a bit anyway
#365 [14:10] <Moose> lol
#366 [14:11] <Calinou> multiplayer works in a similiar way, but most servers have rules
#367 [14:11] <Moose> I'll run a private whitelist server.
#368 [14:11] <wildlifechorus> Calinou yeah i'm going to explore.
#369 [14:12] <|Anthony|> Calinou, ok so what would the value for birch wood slabs be? for /give <player> <ID>
#370 [14:13] <Calinou> |Anthony|, double wooden slab: 125, single wooden slab: 126
#371 [14:13] <Calinou> the old "stone" wooden slabs: /give <player> 44 <amount> 2
#372 [14:13] <Calinou> 2 is the "damage" value
#373 [14:13] <Calinou> the old slabs don't burn, can't be used as a furnace fuel, must be mined with a pickaxe, higher explosion resistance
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#375 [14:14] <|Anthony|> k... go try /give Calinou 126 and see what it says
#376 [14:14] <Calinou> |Anthony|, you should try around for the birch slabs
#377 [14:14] <Calinou> ./give <player> 126 <amount> gives a oak slab
#378 [14:14] <|Anthony|> there's no item called 126
#379 [14:14] <Calinou> ./give <player> 126 <amount> 1 - MIGHT give a spruce wood slab
#380 [14:15] <|Anthony|> is what i het
#381 [14:15] <Calinou> oh
#382 [14:15] <|Anthony|> get*
#383 [14:15] <Calinou> are you playing on the latest snapshot, or 1.2.5?
#384 [14:15] <Calinou> the new wooden slabs are only available in the snapshots
#385 [14:15] <|Anthony|> 1.2.5 bukkit
#386 [14:15] <|Anthony|> ah
#387 [14:15] <Calinou> well, then you don't have new wooden slabs there
#388 [14:15] <|Anthony|> i see
#389 [14:15] <|Anthony|> fooey
#390 [14:16] <|Anthony|> the wood shop will have to do without for now
#391 [14:17] <|Anthony|> stick=$1 slab=$1 Plank=$2 Wood=$8
#392 [14:17] <|Anthony|> fair math i suppose
#393 [14:18] <Calinou> yep :P
#394 [14:18] <|Anthony|> and stairs are $3
#395 [14:18] <wildlifechorus> where can I find a 64bit version of java ?
#396 [14:18] <Calinou> if only 1 cubic meter of planks were at 2$ in real life
#397 [14:18] <|Anthony|> HAHA
#398 [14:18] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml
#399 [14:19] <Calinou> for windows. you will have to remove your previous java version first
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#401 [14:19] <Calinou> hmm well, this page has changed a lot since I've last visited it
#402 [14:20] <wildlifechorus> Calinou could you get me a direct download link ?
#403 [14:20] <wildlifechorus> because my game is freezing but I have an high end computer, must be java...
#404 [14:21] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#405 [14:21] <Calinou> "windows offline (64 bit)"
#406 [14:21] <Calinou> this is the latest java 7 version. it should work
#407 [14:21] <wildlifechorus> thank you so much :)
#408 [14:21] <Calinou> uninstall any other versions of java first
#409 [14:22] <wildlifechorus> doing it right now Calinou
#410 [14:22] <Moose> hmm. they got rid of notch's tumblr and twitter feed on minecraft.net o_O
#411 [14:22] <Calinou> Moose, yep
#412 [14:22] <Calinou> jeb's twitter + mcupdate
#413 [14:22] <Calinou> you can check the update news in a web browser, since forever
#414 [14:23] <Calinou> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com
#415 [14:23] <Moose> and nice, almost 30,000,000 registered accounts.
#416 [14:23] <Calinou> minecraft is getting as popular as commercial games
#417 [14:23] <wildlifechorus> you guys should make a mobile version
#418 [14:24] <Calinou> there is!
#419 [14:24] <Calinou> there's the pocket edition for iphone/ipad and that stuff, and for android devices. there's an xbox360 version too
#420 [14:25] <Calinou> also, we aren't affiliated with mojang (the minecraft developers)
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#422 [14:25] <wildlifechorus> one more question, how to mark my spawn point ?
#423 [14:25] <Calinou> there are several ways of finding your spawn point
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#425 [14:25] <Calinou> one of them includes... just building some pillar there.
#426 [14:26] <Calinou> you can also craft a compass: it requires iron and redstone dust
#427 [14:26] <wildlifechorus> oh ok
#428 [14:26] <Moose> there, the private server is up.
#429 [14:26] <Calinou> redstone dust is mined from "redstone ore", an imaginary ore
#430 [14:26] <Calinou> it is quite common but you must go deep underground to find it
#431 [14:26] <Moose> (I don't see why the command "stop" would throw a NullPointerException if the server cannot bind to a port because it's being used.)
#432 [14:27] <Calinou> don't know, I'm not a java coder anyway :P
#433 [14:27] <Calinou> Moose, IP?
#434 [14:28] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting - here is a list of all the crafting recipes
#435 [14:28] <Moose> wildlifechorus, what's your username?
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#437 [14:33] <ace_case> Hey
#438 [14:34] <ace_case> I am having issues playing minecraft on Xubuntu
#439 [14:34] <Calinou> ace_case, what issues? don't ask to ask ;)
#440 [14:34] <ace_case> I can login but when it gets to the title screen it freezes
#441 [14:35] <ace_case> I have tried Java 6 and 7 and Open JDK
#442 [14:35] <ace_case> And I have changed each to be default each time I tried them
#443 [14:35] <Calinou> ace_case, did you install proprietary graphic card drivers?
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#445 [14:35] <Moose> agh, hold on Calinou, malloc is being lame.
#446 [14:36] <ace_case> When I installed Xubuntu after updating, a thing said to install Nvidia drivers, so I did.
#447 [14:36] <Calinou> malloc...?
#448 [14:36] <ace_case> They seem to be up to date
#449 [14:36] <Calinou> ace_case, do you get any error message?
#450 [14:36] <ace_case> Not really
#451 [14:37] <Moose> Calinou: it's a memory allocator.
#452 [14:37] <Calinou> are you on linux? :P
#453 [14:37] <Moose> my server is.
#454 [14:37] <Calinou> kay
#455 [14:38] <ace_case> When I start with terminal, it says it can't find javaw
#456 [14:38] <Moose> oh derp
#457 [14:38] <ace_case> But that is before it freezes
#458 [14:38] <Moose> ace_case: you don't have javaw installed.
#459 [14:38] <Calinou> ace_case, use java 6, sun's version
#460 [14:38] <Moose> what happens when you do java -version
#461 [14:38] <Calinou> minecraft runs fine on my linux mint laptop.
#462 [14:38] <Calinou> sun's java 6
#463 [14:38] <ace_case> java version "1.6.0_32"
#464 [14:38] <ace_case> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_32-b05)
#465 [14:38] <ace_case> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.7-b02, mixed mode)
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#467 [14:39] <Calinou> weird...
#468 [14:39] <ace_case> I have also tried 7 and OpenJDK
#469 [14:40] <ace_case> and the java -version confirmed that they were being used
#470 [14:40] <ace_case> After I click login,
#471 [14:40] <Calinou> ace_case, using any mods?
#472 [14:41] <ace_case> I get a few failed to open device
#473 [14:41] <ace_case> and no I am not
#474 [14:41] <ace_case> It does this with SpoutCraft as well
#475 [14:42] <ace_case> idk if it matters but I updated LWJGL too
#476 [14:42] <Calinou> maybe you did it wrong
#477 [14:42] <Calinou> try to delete your "bin" folder in .minecraft, then restart the game
#478 [14:42] <ace_case> It did it before I updated it too
#479 [14:43] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, you there? the server is up
#480 [14:44] <ace_case> Also, I don't think it is a hardware issue because I can play it fine on Vista
#481 [14:45] <ace_case> Still won't work
#482 [14:46] <ace_case> Actually, it is not "froze"
#483 [14:46] <ace_case> Just moving in SUPER slowmotion
#484 [14:47] <ace_case> Less than 1 frame persecond
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#486 [14:47] <ace_case> Should I try reinstalling my graphics drivers?
#487 [14:48] <Calinou> yep, maybe
#488 [14:48] <Calinou> what graphics card do you have?
#489 [14:49] <ace_case> Nvidia 6150 LE
#490 [14:50] <ace_case> In the GeForce 6 series
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#492 [14:54] <ace_case> Hmm..
#493 [14:54] <Calinou> ^ very old
#494 [14:54] <ace_case> The version I have is 295.40 and the sites is 295.53 ima try updating
#495 [14:54] <Calinou> linux driver support is far from good
#496 [14:55] <Calinou> ace_case, don't use the version from nvidia's website
#497 [14:55] <Calinou> installing it is very complicated and tricky
#498 [14:55] <ace_case> Why?
#499 [14:55] <ace_case> k
#500 [14:55] <ace_case> So just leave it?
#501 [14:55] <Calinou> leave it as is... the 295 version should be fine
#502 [14:55] <Calinou> I mean 295.40
#503 [14:55] <Calinou> ace_case, disable desktop effects/compositing
#504 [14:55] <Calinou> (in xubuntu)
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#506 [14:56] <ace_case> And where may I find that?
#507 [14:56] <ace_case> (in xfce session btw)
#508 [14:56] <ace_case> Heard there were slight diffeneces in UI
#509 [14:58] <ace_case> Should I try post-release updates instead of version current?
#510 [15:00] <Calinou> ace_case, nah, just disable compositing
#511 [15:00] <Calinou> I don't use xfce
#512 [15:00] <Calinou> but it should be in some sort of control panel of course
#513 [15:00] <Calinou> maybe "window effects"
#514 [15:02] <Calinou> wildlifechorus, you there?
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#516 [15:04] <ace_case> It was already off
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#519 [15:11] <ace_case> So any ideas on how to fix it?
#520 [15:22] <ace_case> ?
#521 [15:23] <Calinou> ...not really
#522 [15:24] <Calinou> that's probably nvidia's fault, they don't really care about linux
#523 [15:24] <Calinou> that's even worse on AMD's side anyway
#524 [15:25] <ace_case> k
#525 [15:25] <ace_case> I hope to get a new computer anyways
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#531 [15:50] <skipperki1> are the minecraft login servers down?
#532 [15:51] <clarjon1> ;login
#533 [15:51] <clarjon1> hm.
#534 [15:51] <clarjon1> i forget the command to test that, heh.
#535 [15:51] <skipperki1> ?login
#536 [15:51] <skipperki1> nope
#537 [15:52] <skipperki1> !login
#538 [15:52] <clarjon1> skipperki1: but, i've had people login in the past couple minutes on my server.
#539 [15:52] <skipperki1> lolok
#540 [15:52] <Morrolan> !check minecraft.lethal-zone.eu
#541 [15:52] <Morrolan> Oh, auth servers, sorry.
#542 [15:52] <Morrolan> I misread. :D
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#543 [15:53] <skipperki1> becuase when i try to join a server it says ethier bad packet id 14 bad login or failed to verify username
#544 [15:53] <skipperki1> lol
#545 [15:53] <Morrolan> Close your client completely, and log in again.
#546 [15:53] <skipperki1> ok
#547 [15:53] <skipperki1> !check teamtang.no-ip.org:25565
#548 [15:54] <skipperki1> !check 68.39.194.214
#549 [15:54] <skipperki1> ok then
#550 [15:54] <clarjon1> !check dreamcraft.org
#551 [15:54] <clarjon1> skipperki1: try connecting to that server, see if it works better?
#552 [15:55] <clarjon1> yup, i seen ya connect.
#553 [15:56] <skipperki1> internal exception: java.io.IOException: Bad packet id 120
#554 [15:57] <Morrolan> Bah. Select "force update" in the launcher's options menu, then log in as usual. This'll make Minecraft redownload its files. Then try again.
#555 [15:57] <skipperki1> and im trying to do a ultra hardcore with my friend lol
#556 [15:59] <skipperki1> still failed to verify username
#557 [15:59] <skipperki1> i even deleted most of the stuff in my appdata
#558 [16:00] <clarjon1> skipperki1: once you do the force update, try dreamcraft again.
#559 [16:00] <skipperki1> ok im in
#560 [16:00] <skipperki1> lol
#561 [16:00] <clarjon1> if you can connect there, then it's most likely an issue with the other server.
#562 [16:02] <skipperki1> even though it did it with like 3 other sevrers?
#563 [16:02] <skipperki1> server*
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#568 [16:48] <VIc2215> Can you guys help me change my email-adress? i have lost acces to my old email..
#569 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> You can do so at the mojang account page
#570 [16:48] <VIc2215> it keeps sending me instructions to my old email...
#571 [16:48] <VIc2215> i have no acces to my old email tho :/
#572 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#573 [16:49] <VIc2215> i've seen that one.
#574 [16:49] <VIc2215> it sends me instructions to my old email...
#575 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> Then you'll need to contact Mojang proper
#576 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> We're just volunteers here
#577 [16:49] <VIc2215> How do i do that?
#578 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> The, "click HERE" link
#579 [16:50] <VIc2215> Where o:?
#580 [16:50] <clarjon1> ...
#581 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> Read the entirety of: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#582 [16:50] <clarjon1> VIc2215: on the link we just gave you.
#583 [16:51] <VIc2215> Ahh..
#584 [16:51] <VIc2215> sorry man.. :P
#585 [16:51] <VIc2215> i'll do that.
#586 [16:51] <VIc2215> thx for the help! :)
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#595 [17:31] <Thrae> Hmm, I've never done this before...it's possible to give people monster spawners that contain the tile data for them to actually spawn monsters, right?
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#597 [17:32] <lemon-rev> thrae only if you have a mod installed cant be done with standered game
#598 [17:32] <Thrae> I'm using a bukkit server, I think it can do it...just never tried it before.
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#600 [17:32] <Hyrapower> Anyone know how to set up an account linked to Minecraft? I would like to set one up for my university. If not got any suggestions?
#601 [17:32] <lemon-rev> well if you know the spawnder id number you want then you can do what you wish with it
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#603 [17:33] <lemon-rev> Hyrapower i would think youd do it though the minecraft.com < i think webs sites
#604 [17:34] <Hyrapower> Yeah but say you have a university login and a minecraft account, is there already anything to link the two? minecraft faq and google didnt produce anything useful
#605 [17:35] <Morrolan> There's nothing from Mojang's side, no. This would have to be done on the university's site.
#606 [17:35] <Morrolan> However I am unsure what exactly you are trying to achieve, anyway.
#607 [17:36] <Hyrapower> pretty much an university exclusive server (or server set)
#608 [17:36] <Hyrapower> its not my choice why they want to do it this way
#609 [17:36] <Morrolan> Then just grab the server software and host a server there?
#610 [17:36] <Hyrapower> its just my job to get something done
#611 [17:36] <Hyrapower> yeah
#612 [17:36] <Morrolan> Either only allow connections from the internal network, or use a whitelist.
#613 [17:36] <Hyrapower> i suggested a whitelist
#614 [17:37] <Hyrapower> they wanted to do it this other backassward way
#615 [17:37] <Morrolan> I have no clue what "they" want in this case.
#616 [17:37] <Hyrapower> "they" happen to be a coworker, a team lead who doesnt know anything about minecraft, and me
#617 [17:37] <Hyrapower> well not me
#618 [17:37] <Morrolan> Mojang doesn't control what servers a Minecraft account connects to.
#619 [17:37] <Hyrapower> i cant be they
#620 [17:38] <Hyrapower> they want to be able to connect a university and minecraft account and then allow login when there is only both
#621 [17:38] <Morrolan> So any sort of limitation of who is allowed to connect has to be done on the server's end.
#622 [17:38] <Hyrapower> right
#623 [17:39] <Hyrapower> well im unsure how to do that...
#624 [17:39] <Hyrapower> so its like allow only students to join
#625 [17:39] <Morrolan> Easiest solution? Only allow connections from the internal network of the university.
#626 [17:39] <Hyrapower> yeah that is the easiest way
#627 [17:39] <Morrolan> Second solution? Create a way for students to enter their minecraft username on the website, which then gets added to the server's whitelis.t
#628 [17:39] <Morrolan> whitelist*
#629 [17:40] <Hyrapower> thats a good idea
#630 [17:40] <Hyrapower> thanks
#631 [17:40] <Morrolan> Most complicated solution: Create a Bukkit plugin where players have to enter their university credentials after having joined the server, and check whether it's correct.
#632 [17:40] <Morrolan> But yea, allowing students to enter their Minecraft username somewhere in the university's intranet might be the way to go.
#633 [17:40] <Hyrapower> i was going to say internal connections have problems because of VPN and off campus students who want to play
#634 [17:41] <Morrolan> True.
#635 [17:41] <Hyrapower> oh its a commuter college mostly so thats the problem for playing at night
#636 [17:41] <Hyrapower> they mostly want to play with their friends when they are at their parents house
#637 [17:41] <Hyrapower> so thats the intranet issue
#638 [17:41] <Hyrapower> bukkit is in java right?
#639 [17:42] <Morrolan> It is.
#640 [17:42] <Hyrapower> or rather minecraft
#641 [17:42] <Hyrapower> alright
#642 [17:42] <Morrolan> But what is the issue with them having to set their MC username in the intranet again?
#643 [17:42] <Morrolan> They just have to do that once, then their username gets added to the server's whitelist, from then on they can connect from wherever they want.
#644 [17:43] <Hyrapower> that i was wondering if there was a more elegant plugin already created to do so lool
#645 [17:43] <Hyrapower> intranet limits outside connections if limited to intranet
#646 [17:43] <Hyrapower> and limits desktops
#647 [17:43] <Hyrapower> but yeah you gave me a bit to think about
#648 [17:43] <Hyrapower> so that gives me something to work with
#649 [17:44] <Morrolan> Any such plugin would have to have some way of accessing the university's account database, so atleast parts of it would have to be customized anyway. *shrug*
#650 [17:44] <Morrolan> Either way, g'luck.
#651 [17:44] <Hyrapower> thx
#652 [17:44] <Hyrapower> also why is minecraft so CPU intensive?
#653 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Millions of blocks.
#654 [17:45] <Hyrapower> yeah i got thats what its doing
#655 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Constant loading and unloading of chunks
#656 [17:45] <Thrae> Hyrapower: Look up "Voxel", today's computers aren't really optimized for it.
#657 [17:45] <Hyrapower> alright then why is minecraft the only game that has ever threatened to overheat my computer
#658 [17:45] <Morrolan> Lighting calculations of all those blocks might eat away on CPU as well.
#659 [17:45] <Hyrapower> thanks Thrae
#660 [17:46] <Morrolan> Minecraft isn't really a Voxel game.
#661 [17:46] <Thrae> Hyrapower: That's because you probably set it on "Max FPS" which disables frame limits, so it's literally stressing your CPU & GPU as far as they'll go.
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#663 [17:46] <Hyrapower> i was just thinking there could be a way of making to less cpu intensive
#664 [17:46] <Thrae> It's a hybrid Voxel engine, no? With volumetric data?
#665 [17:46] <Hyrapower> why would i ever do that? i like skipping framerate
#666 [17:47] <Hyrapower> skipping framerates allow emulators above the nes to even function
#667 [17:47] <Morrolan> Now you've got me cornered, Thrae.
#668 [17:48] <Hyrapower> also i chose powersaver
#669 [17:48] <Morrolan> I don't think its engine is anything Voxel-like at all, but I don't know for sure.
#670 [17:48] <Hyrapower> i thought it was built from the ground up
#671 [17:48] <Morrolan> Oh, look, there's a monkey over there!
#672 [17:48] <Hyrapower> like minecraft didnt have a platform
#673 [17:48] <Morrolan> It is built from the ground up, no doubt.
#674 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Um, sure it did
#675 [17:49] <Morrolan> Well, using Java and LWJGL that is.
#676 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> It uses Java, with lwjgl libraries.
#677 [17:50] <Hyrapower> i meant ground up on top of a basic framework like a language
#678 [17:50] <Morrolan> Ah, in this case no, it's using LWJGL.
#679 [17:50] <Hyrapower> i didnt think notch built it upon Assembly lol
#680 [17:50] <Hyrapower> alright so thats something
#681 [17:52] <Hyrapower> thanks Thrae, Morrolan and GreyVulpine
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#688 [18:34] <Jamesst20> hi
#689 [18:34] <Jamesst20> I need your help for map editing
#690 [18:34] <Jamesst20> I would like to generate a new map but just merge my city on the new one
#691 [18:36] <Morrolan> Use a map editor like MCEdit then.
#692 [18:36] <Morrolan> Generate new map, cut out the city from the old map, paste it into the new one.
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#694 [18:51] <Jamesst20> Morrolan
#695 [18:51] <Jamesst20> is there anything else then MCEdit I can use?
#696 [18:52] <Morrolan> It's the only mapeditor I know of.
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#698 [18:52] <Iridium> hi
#699 [18:53] <Iridium> i can't log into my server, getting timed out
#700 [18:53] <Jamesst20> Iridium
#701 [18:54] <Iridium> yes?
#702 [18:54] <Jamesst20> hosted on same network as your clint?
#703 [18:54] <Iridium> yes
#704 [18:54] <Jamesst20> url type localhost
#705 [18:54] <Iridium> with port?
#706 [18:54] <Iridium> it's not on default
#707 [18:55] <Iridium> nope still taking too long to log in
#708 [18:56] <Iridium> what's interesting is that the port showing on the server log is different to the port it's hosted on
#709 [18:59] <Iridium> is everyone in here playing d3 or what? :/
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#711 [19:07] <zkxs> Iridium: What's up?
#712 [19:07] <Iridium> i can't log in, says it's taking too long
#713 [19:08] <Iridium> same goes with my brother so it's not a local issue
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#715 [19:08] <zkxs> so what happens if you connect to 127.0.0.1:port on the computer the server is running on?
#716 [19:09] <Iridium> Disconnection /127.0.0.1:randomport: Took too long to log in
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#718 [19:09] <Iridium> ing* lol
#719 [19:09] <zkxs> Is the server in offline or online mode?
#720 [19:09] <Iridium> online
#721 [19:10] <zkxs> And this is a normal setup, no mods or hamachi?
#722 [19:11] <thebobman> Hi.. i have the xbox mine craft and i know it does not yet have pistons .. but i wanted to try out some designs i have been getting ready and i thought i would use the classic mode for minecraft in browser IE free to try it but it will not load keeps saying the cert is outdated. does this not work any longer?
#723 [19:11] <Iridium> it's bukkit, will test it vanilla though
#724 [19:11] <zkxs> thebobman: If you can't ignore the cert error, just download the launcher and use it
#725 [19:12] <thebobman> how do i do that? where do i down load it from?
#726 [19:12] <zkxs> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#727 [19:13] <thebobman> no mac version?
#728 [19:13] <zkxs> Oh, I assumed windows
#729 [19:13] <thebobman> will try get laptop to run it
#730 [19:13] <zkxs> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar <-- This should work on mac
#731 [19:13] <thebobman> yer sorry should have said sorry
#732 [19:13] <zkxs> I should have asked :P
#733 [19:14] <Iridium> ahh it works fine vanilla so i guess that makes bukkit the problem
#734 [19:14] <thebobman> ahh wow works allready thanks
#735 [19:15] <zkxs> No problem, applets are silly
#736 [19:15] <zkxs> Iridium: yep
#737 [19:15] <zkxs> You can try disabling your plugins one by one, and seeing if one of them is causing it
#738 [19:16] <zkxs> also... you didn't set your IP in server.properties, did you?
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#740 [19:32] <thebobman> it worked as in it let me play but i guess creative mode isnt on the free version is it?
#741 [19:33] <Wug> thebobman: the downloadable version isnt free at all
#742 [19:34] <thebobman> the link i was given lets me play for free offline but only in survival mode
#743 [19:34] <thebobman> i would have to pay for an account to get creative mode
#744 [19:34] <Wug> thats the launcher jar and shouldnt let you actually play the game
#745 [19:34] <thebobman> lets me log in with my registared user name
#746 [19:35] <thebobman> then says not ive not paid
#747 [19:35] <Wug> whats your username
#748 [19:35] <thebobman> click play offline ad i can
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#750 [19:35] <Wug> you must have pirated it in the past or something :/
#751 [19:35] <thebobman> and i can*
#752 [19:35] <Wug> what version does it say it is
#753 [19:35] <Wug> (either you pirated it or someone else has played it on your computer)
#754 [19:36] <thebobman> how do i find out what version
#755 [19:36] <thebobman> no 1 has played it on this computer
#756 [19:36] <Wug> after logging in and getting to the main menu it should say somewhere
#757 [19:37] <thebobman> when i open app it has a list off all updates and a log in bit bottom right corner
#758 [19:37] <thebobman> i log in
#759 [19:37] <Wug> after you log in and when youre at the main menu
#760 [19:37] <thebobman> all that changes is says user not premium
#761 [19:37] <Wug> it should say 'Minecraft x.x.x' somewhere
#762 [19:37] <thebobman> get try again and play offline
#763 [19:37] <Wug> after you play offline
#764 [19:37] <thebobman> 1.72
#765 [19:37] <Wug> yeah thats really out of date
#766 [19:38] <Wug> did you pirate it months and months ago by any chance
#767 [19:38] <thebobman> no
#768 [19:38] <thebobman> as ive been waiting for the xbox eddition
#769 [19:38] <Wug> someone else must have played on your computer or something
#770 [19:38] <Wug> whatever
#771 [19:38] <thebobman> well this is my computer i am only user
#772 [19:38] <Wug> it doesnt matter how they got there
#773 [19:39] <Wug> creative mode was introduced sometime after
#774 [19:39] <thebobman> how who got where?
#775 [19:40] <Wug> the files for minecraft 1.7.2
#776 [19:40] <thebobman> i just downladed it from a link someone here gave me
#777 [19:40] <Wug> dont worry about it
#778 [19:40] <thebobman> at about 00:15
#779 [19:40] <Wug> if you want to play creative mode, youll have to buy it for the pc
#780 [19:41] <thebobman> well all i wanted to do was test an idea for a piston door and as xbox doesnt yet have them i thought i would use creative to try it
#781 [19:41] <zkxs> So not only did I incorrectly assume you were a windows user, you were also talking about the free version :/
#782 [19:42] <thebobman> i did say i was trying to use the classic mode ?
#783 [19:42] <Wug> zkxs: you were pretty much wrong about everything
#784 [19:42] <Jamesst20> Hey
#785 [19:42] <Wug> thebobman: classic mode is really old and outdated, and doesnt have pistons either
#786 [19:42] <zkxs> The paid version has a creative mode now
#787 [19:42] <Jamesst20> I need help, I wanna create a new map and merge my current city in it
#788 [19:42] <Wug> and is also only available online
#789 [19:43] <thebobman> ok good to know
#790 [19:43] <zkxs> Jamesst20: Use MCEdit
#791 [19:43] <Wug> Jamesst20: grab mcedit
#792 [19:43] <Wug> ninjad
#793 [19:43] <Jamesst20> MCEdit isn't working
#794 [19:43] * Wug ninjabow --> zkxs
#794 [19:43] <Jamesst20> Crash looks, like the map is too big
#795 [19:43] <Wug> how big is it
#796 [19:43] <Wug> also, is it up to date
#797 [19:43] <Wug> (mcedit, that is)
#798 [19:43] <Jamesst20> 366 MB
#799 [19:44] <Wug> thats not that big
#800 [19:44] <Jamesst20> Enough to crash it thought..
#801 [19:44] <Wug> the map format was updated about a month or to ago
#802 [19:44] <Wug> two*. if you havent updated mcedit since then you will have to
#803 [19:44] <thebobman> just gotta sctokpile all the stuff for the 20 odd pistons i will use and find all the blooming red stone i need... which is roughly 100 i think
#804 [19:44] <Jamesst20> and it takes forever to load Maps view
#805 [19:45] <Jamesst20> Wug I have MCEdit 0.1.1
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#807 [19:46] <Wug> Jamesst20: mcf says current builds might be unstable
#808 [19:47] <Wug> are you using the 64 bit version of mcedit
#809 [19:47] <Wug> if not it might help
#810 [19:48] <Jamesst20> Wug I just updated to stable33
#811 [19:48] <Jamesst20> Doesn't load at all
#812 [19:48] <Jamesst20> I can only see sky
#813 [19:48] <Wug> can you open other maps
#814 [19:49] <Wug> yeah, the stable versions might not support the map format, so you wouldnt see anything
#815 [19:49] <Jamesst20> Nope not even a fresh generated one
#816 [19:49] <Jamesst20> Alright will give a try to testing888
#817 [19:50] <zkxs> Wug, I've been looking at the WugLauncher, and it looks like a couple of classes are missing...?
#818 [19:50] <zkxs> the LZMA stuff?
#819 [19:50] <Wug> zkxs: compared to what
#820 [19:50] <Wug> the launcher its derived from didnt have any lzma stuff
#821 [19:50] <zkxs> huh, the one i've got does... weird
#822 [19:51] <Jamesst20> Wug wow.. the latest dev release says my map is empty
#823 [19:51] <zkxs> Weren't there only two versions of the launcher?
#824 [19:51] <Wug> Jamesst20: does it still work in minecraft
#825 [19:51] <Wug> zkxs: nope, there was another update some time ago
#826 [19:52] <zkxs> Well, that would be it then. Thanks!
#827 [19:52] <Wug> it didnt change much, just fixed some weird issues with mac and 64 bit java
#828 [19:52] <Jamesst20> wug yess.
#829 [19:52] <Wug> Jamesst20: and no world loads with the version youre trying?
#830 [19:52] <Jamesst20> Even the fresh generated map from minecraft is empty
#831 [19:52] <Wug> idk then
#832 [19:52] <Wug> you might be out of luck
#833 [19:53] <Wug> you can visit the forum post and post about it. include screenshots
#834 [19:53] <Jamesst20> :/
#835 [19:53] <zkxs> I figured that the MC launcher, not being obfuscated, would be a decent place to learn about modding compiled java
#836 [19:54] <Jamesst20> Wug can't I delete a region instead?
#837 [19:55] <Wug> Jamesst20: a region is a block of the world 1024x1024x256
#838 [19:55] <Wug> it would be like using a real life nuke
#839 [19:59] <Jamesst20> yeah but what I mean is
#840 [19:59] <Jamesst20> My city isn't that small
#841 [19:59] <Jamesst20> Well too big to use worledit, it would crash
#842 [19:59] <Jamesst20> But I wanna delete everything around i
#843 [19:59] <Jamesst20> because all it contains is random stuff built by everyone
#844 [20:00] <Wug> you could use worldedit
#845 [20:00] <Wug> it would just take a long time because worldedit is really shitty
#846 [20:00] <Wug> *cough*
#847 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> WAT
#848 [20:01] <Wug> it wouldnt crash either
#849 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> I bet the Developer appreciates that
#850 [20:01] <Wug> it would just lag everyone out for 15 minutes
#851 [20:01] <Wug> NinjaKirby: it does everything sequentially
#852 [20:01] <Wug> and thus its retarded
#853 [20:01] <Wug> I could write a better worldedit engine in a day
#854 [20:01] <NinjaKirby> Non-sequential is superior eh?
#855 [20:02] <Wug> I'd still do it sequentially
#856 [20:02] <Jamesst20> Wug why not doing it?
#857 [20:02] <Wug> I'd just make it so that it wouldnt try to do everything in one tick
#858 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> now test that to put Let's the right
#859 [20:02] <NinjaKirby> Fairy'nuff
#860 [20:02] <Jamesst20> Wug what it tries to do everything in one tick?
#861 [20:02] <Wug> Jamesst20: worldedit
#862 [20:02] <Wug> its why it seems to make servers crash when you do big things with it
#863 [20:03] <Wug> in reality it doesnt usually crash
#864 [20:03] <Jamesst20> yeah lol
#865 [20:03] <Wug> it just takes a really long time
#866 [20:03] <Jamesst20> 20 ticks is 1 sec assuming no lag
#867 [20:03] <Wug> copying 500000000 blocks generally takes longer than .05 seconds
#868 [20:03] <Jamesst20> yeah..
#869 [20:03] <Jamesst20> fix it :)
#870 [20:04] <Wug> maybe I will sometime
#871 [20:04] <Wug> who writes it
#872 [20:04] <Jamesst20> sometime like tonight :D
#873 [20:04] <Wug> is it open source
#874 [20:04] <Jamesst20> yes it is :)
#875 [20:04] <Wug> I dont want to fork it
#876 [20:04] <Wug> if I did that my fork would be largely ignored/forgotten about
#877 [20:04] <Wug> because such is the way of things
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#879 [20:04] <Jamesst20> https://github.com/sk89q/worldedit
#880 [20:05] <NinjaKirby> It's like how VHS won, as people inevitably say
#881 [20:06] <Jamesst20> Wug Why didn't they make it run in an other thread then the main one?
#882 [20:06] <Jamesst20> Wug so it would replace block while still the main thread works..
#883 [20:07] <Wug> <Wug> it would just take a long time because >worldedit is really shitty<
#884 [20:07] <Wug> ;D
#885 [20:07] <Jamesst20> yeah but wasn't harder to make it in an other thread thought
#886 [20:07] <Jamesst20> I wonder why they didn't
#887 [20:08] <Jamesst20> So yeah I guess all I can do is to use worldedit :(
#888 [20:08] <Wug> I wouldnt do it as a thread probably
#889 [20:09] <Wug> but I'd have a way to restrict how much work it tried to do at once
#890 [20:09] <Jamesst20> Yeah but running that in the main thread isn't a good idea
#891 [20:09] <Jamesst20> if something goes wrong it cras
#892 [20:11] <Jamesst20> Wug is it possible to check what a region contains?
#893 [20:11] <Jamesst20> So I can move all the useless one to trash?
#894 [20:11] <Wug-> Jamesst20: not easily. only real way to do it without mcdit would be to visit it in minecraft and see what was in it
#895 [20:12] <Jamesst20> sure that is fine
#896 [20:13] <Jamesst20> how would I do?
#897 [20:13] <Wug-> the coordinates of the chunk are related to the coords in game
#898 [20:14] <Wug-> I believe that x:0, z:0 to x:1024, z:1024 are part of the region 0,0
#899 [20:14] <Jamesst20> Middle city is at x:-627, y:85,
#900 [20:14] <Wug-> its probably r.x.z.mcr
#901 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> Why not just MCedit it?
#902 [20:15] <Jamesst20> MCEdit is broken right now
#903 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> It is?
#904 [20:15] <Jamesst20> yep..
#905 [20:15] <Jamesst20> it is on my sie at least
#906 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> I used it just recently...
#907 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Worked fine for me
#908 [20:15] <Jamesst20> what version?
#909 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#910 [20:16] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#911 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> ^
#912 [20:16] <Wug-> hes tried it
#913 [20:16] <Jamesst20> I used that one
#914 [20:16] <Jamesst20> loads a part and crash
#915 [20:16] <Jamesst20> like if my map would be too big
#916 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> 32 or 64 bit?
#917 [20:16] <Jamesst20> 64
#918 [20:16] <Jamesst20> Intel Core i7
#919 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#920 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Try 32 bit mcedit
#921 [20:16] <Jamesst20> 4GB Ram
#922 [20:16] <Wug-> GreyVulpine: does the 64 bit one derp
#923 [20:16] <Jamesst20> and takes forever to load
#924 [20:17] <Wug-> I only ever use 64 bit everything
#925 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> the 64 bit Mcedit has always derped for me
#926 [20:17] <Jamesst20> same here
#927 [20:17] <Wug-> granted I havent used mcedit in quite a while
#928 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> 32 bit seems to work fine
#929 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Not just me as well
#930 [20:17] <Wug-> do you have 64 bit python too
#931 [20:17] <Wug-> and 64 bit all of the dependancies
#932 [20:17] <Jamesst20> it is natively in Windows
#933 [20:19] <Jamesst20> hmm
#934 [20:19] <Jamesst20> is there no way to view region?
#935 [20:19] <Jamesst20> mca file
#936 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> MCedit
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#938 [20:22] <Jamesst20> open mca file?
#939 [20:22] <Jamesst20> nope
#940 [20:22] <Jamesst20> crash
#941 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> How does it crash? Does it give you an error message?
#942 [20:25] <Jamesst20> exit
#943 [20:25] <Jamesst20> and someotime : MCEdit stopped working..
#944 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Are you using 32 bit MCedit?
#945 [20:26] <Jamesst20> yep..
#946 [20:26] <Jamesst20> http://davidvierra.com/mcedit/download-testing.html
#947 [20:26] <Jamesst20> that one load nothing
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#949 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> hmm
#950 [20:29] <Jamesst20> oh god.. why is it so hard to remove part of a map --'
#951 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Works fine for me
#952 [20:29] <Jamesst20> I will delete random region
#953 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Thinking there's something wrong with your python
#954 [20:30] <Jamesst20> Well doing that in python is wrong
#955 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> Sometimes ya gotta roll a Hard Six
#956 [20:30] <Jamesst20> Python isn't enough powerful for that kind of thing
#957 [20:30] <Jamesst20> The guy should have used something such as C++
#958 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> Alllll along the watchtower~
#959 [20:38] <Jamesst20> LOL
#960 [20:39] <Jamesst20> Somehow I guessed the right region
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#964 [20:55] <Jamesst20> hmm
#965 [20:56] <Jamesst20> My city i only 4 Region
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#967 [20:56] <Jamesst20> and I've got over 180 region
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#972 [21:36] <Jamesst20> Hey
#973 [21:36] <Jamesst20> Anyone know C++ here?
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#975 [21:37] <Wug> I do. I am not rewriting mcedit in it
#976 [21:37] <Wug> maybe if there was money involved
#977 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> $2 an hour is about all you might get :P
#978 [21:38] <Wug> yeah maybe for like $25
#979 [21:38] <Wug> which is what I'm currently scheduled to be making
#980 [21:38] <Wug> bid for my time :D
#981 [21:38] <Jamesst20> Wug you're going to rewrite it in C++?
#982 [21:38] <Wug> did I say that
#983 [21:39] <DiskDaemon> no, this is all hypothetical
#984 [21:39] <Jamesst20> oh
#985 [21:39] <Jamesst20> I do code in C++/Java
#986 [21:39] <Wug> hypothetically, if I were going to live to the age of 2500, I'd do a lot of things
#987 [21:39] <Wug> however, I'm not, unfortunately
#988 [21:39] <Jamesst20> I do code in C++ but never did anything related to 3D
#989 [21:40] <Jamesst20> do you think it would be really hard to rewrite it in C++?
#990 [21:40] <Wug> tbh ive never done anything with graphics in c++ either
#991 [21:40] <Wug> apart from a few trivial opengl tutorials
#992 [21:40] <Jamesst20> yeah I guess it would be for the best
#993 [21:40] <TheNytangel> TBH every time I watch the first video of a set of tutorials, I never watch the second
#994 [21:41] <Jamesst20> I never watch video for coding
#995 [21:43] <Jamesst20> Wug ever used OpenGL?
#996 [21:44] <Wug> in the tutorials for c++. I've also had a little bit of experience playing with it while modding
#997 [21:45] <Jamesst20> oh never did
#998 [21:45] <Jamesst20> The book and tutorials I read was with Qt
#999 [21:46] <Jamesst20> Wug Do you think it would be really hard to do?
#1000 [21:46] <Jamesst20> For sure I will have to learn OpenGL
#1001 [21:46] <zkxs> I wouldn't ignore/forget about WugWorldEdit
#1002 [21:47] <zkxs> I've accidentally lagged out my users too many times to count
#1003 [21:48] <Wug> zkxs: im going to bother sk89q about it sometime
#1004 [21:48] <zkxs> :D
#1005 [21:48] <Wug> like when next I see him
#1006 [21:48] <zkxs> There is probably a reason for it trying to do it all in one tick...
#1007 [21:48] <TheNytangel> Bother him about WorldEdit
#1008 [21:48] <TheNytangel> It needs work
#1009 [21:48] <Wug> ;monitor sk89q
#1010 [21:48] <WugBot> If sk89q appears online I'll be sure to tell you.
#1011 [21:49] <zkxs> Whether or not it is a good reason remains to be seen
#1012 [21:49] <Wug> the reason is laziness
#1013 [21:49] <Wug> and/or lack of foresight
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#1015 [21:49] <zkxs> lol, for some reason sk89q hangs out in #sk89q
#1016 [21:49] <Partypete06> Help please
#1017 [21:50] <Wug> zkxs: gee I wonder why
#1018 [21:50] <zkxs> :P
#1019 [21:50] <Wug> Partypete06: state your emergency
#1020 [21:51] <Partypete06> When i try to play it says pixel format not accelerate.
#1021 [21:51] * zkxs ninja bows
#1021 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> update your video drivers, Partypete06
#1022 [21:52] <Partypete06> Do you know what website?
#1023 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> Depends on what video card you have in the computer
#1024 [21:52] * NinjaKirby bows in response to zkxs
#1024 [21:52] <TheNytangel> I knew it..
#1025 [21:54] <Partypete06> kk i think i got it :D
#1026 [21:54] <Partypete06> ty
#1027 [21:55] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: my computer hasn't exploded yet :)
#1028 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Yay!
#1029 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> See? You did fine.
#1030 [21:56] <TheNytangel> It hasn't exploded.. but it did burn a hole through my wall
#1031 [21:56] <GreyVulpine> It what?
#1032 [21:56] <TheNytangel> I'm just kidding, geez
#1033 [21:58] <NinjaKirby> Ganon's minions have seized the Island of Corodai
#1034 [21:58] <zkxs> Hmm, hole in wall... sounds like you should reinstall java.
#1035 [21:58] <TheNytangel> I remember you hurrying up and getting your microphone because I couldn't figure out how to put in the CD drive... heh
#1036 [21:58] <Jamesst20> ;monitor jamesst20
#1037 [21:58] <WugBot> If jamesst20 appears online I'll be sure to tell you.
#1038 [21:58] <Jamesst20> xD
#1039 [21:59] <NinjaKirby> ;monitor Ganondorf
#1040 [21:59] <WugBot> If ganondorf appears online I'll be sure to tell you.
#1041 [21:59] * zkxs wonders how that will go
#1041 [21:59] <NinjaKirby> Thanks Wug, we need to be ready
#1042 [21:59] <zkxs> ;monitor WugBot
#1043 [21:59] <WugBot> If wugbot appears online I'll be sure to tell you.
#1044 [21:59] <zkxs> :D
#1045 [22:00] <Jamesst20> ;help
#1046 [22:00] <Jamesst20> ;dkick jamesst20
#1047 [22:01] <zkxs> I think WugBot's help is too long to fit in one IRC message
#1048 [22:01] <Wug> zkxs: ya think
#1049 [22:01] <Jamesst20> ;deop wug
#1050 [22:01] <Jamesst20> did it work xD?
#1051 [22:02] <Wug> ;deop wug
#1052 [22:02] <Jamesst20> haha xD
#1053 [22:02] <Wug> .....
#1054 [22:02] * Wug kicks vox
#1054 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> !deop wug
#1055 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1056 [22:02] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1057 [22:02] <Jamesst20> !deop jamesst20
#1058 [22:02] <Jamesst20> :O not allowed xD
#1059 [22:02] <Jamesst20> ;doop jamesst20
#1060 [22:02] <WugBot> Jamesst20: doop
#1061 [22:02] <Jamesst20> ;op jamesst20
#1062 [22:02] <Wug> lol doop
#1063 [22:02] <Jamesst20> !op jamesst20
#1064 [22:02] <Jamesst20> xD
#1065 [22:03] * GreyVulpine kicks
#1065 [22:03] <Wug> dont botspam kthx
#1066 [22:03] * Jamesst20 I am admin here
#1066 [22:03] * Jamesst20 or not..
#1066 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> orly.
#1067 [22:03] * zkxs botspams AuBot
#1067 [22:03] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you should /cs clear #minecrafthelp users
#1068 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Last time I did that, people yelled at me
#1069 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> I'd rather not have to deal with that crap again
#1070 [22:04] <Jamesst20> LOL
#1071 [22:04] <Wug> you should give me +R so I can do it
#1072 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Never
#1073 [22:04] <Wug> then ill get yelled at
#1074 [22:04] <Wug> and you can take away my +R as punishment
#1075 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#1076 [22:04] <Wug> and all will be normal again :>
#1077 [22:04] <Wug> minus 75 idlers
#1078 [22:04] <Jamesst20> more then that lol
#1079 [22:05] <Wug> a bunch of them probably have autojoin
#1080 [22:05] * Jamesst20 Is going to learn OpenHL
#1080 [22:05] * Jamesst20 OpenGL
#1080 [22:05] * Wug kicked _303 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: 303 :do you has autojoin)
#1081 [22:05] * Wug looks at watch
#1081 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> whyfor you kick 303
#1082 [22:05] <Wug> because ehh
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#1084 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> !k wug
#1085 [22:05] * GreyBot kicked Wug from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ug :<Kicks:926>)
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#1087 [22:05] * Jamesst20 saddly need to get to bed
#1087 [22:05] <Wug> 30 second autojoin. there you go
#1088 [22:06] * GreyVulpine pffts
#1088 [22:06] <Wug> he'll just kick me from #risucraft when he notices
#1089 [22:06] <Wug> I should give wugbot an autojoin module
#1090 [22:08] <Wug> GreyVulpine: can I have +S
#1091 [22:08] <Wug> +s *
#1092 [22:10] <Wug> wugbot says sk89q is online
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#1094 [22:14] <InstantIdiocy> Are the Minecraft.net client authentication servers down?
#1095 [22:14] <InstantIdiocy> for the game
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#1097 [22:14] <zkxs> Minecraft login servers are working!
#1098 [22:14] <InstantIdiocy> Hrm
#1099 [22:15] <InstantIdiocy> I keep getting a "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1100 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> do you have internet? XD
#1101 [22:15] <zkxs> What do you get at this url: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=minecrafthelp&password=ftw&version=9001
#1102 [22:15] <InstantIdiocy> I'm here =D
#1103 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I know. :3
#1104 [22:15] <InstantIdiocy> Says "Bad login"
#1105 [22:15] <zkxs> Then it is working
#1106 [22:16] <CrusaderDeleters> instant, keep trying
#1107 [22:16] <InstantIdiocy> kk, I'll keep at it
#1108 [22:17] <zkxs> Meanwhile at the Mojang servers: "Hmm, looks like a DOS from 67.171.184.238"
#1109 [22:17] <InstantIdiocy> Ah =D
#1110 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1111 [22:18] <zkxs> :P. Because I can't tell if you know I'm joking, that is InstantIdiocy's IP
#1112 [22:18] <InstantIdiocy> =O I feel so exposed
#1113 [22:18] <TheNytangel> Do you have clothes on right now?
#1114 [22:19] <zkxs> Hey, it's IRC. Everyone can see your IP when you join the channel anyways
#1115 [22:19] <InstantIdiocy> Didn't take long for it to get to that TheNytangel. This is definitely IRC =D.
#1116 [22:20] <InstantIdiocy> Besides, my IP is 192.168.1.166
#1117 [22:21] <zkxs> *cough* maybe inside your NAT, but not on the internet
#1118 [22:21] <TheNytangel> Riiiiight
#1119 [22:21] <InstantIdiocy> ;D
#1120 [22:21] <InstantIdiocy> That's a heck of a cough you have there zkxs
#1121 [22:21] <InstantIdiocy> Several syllables long even
#1122 [22:21] <zkxs> My IP is 127.0.0.1
#1123 [22:21] <InstantIdiocy> with a coughmma
#1124 [22:22] <InstantIdiocy> Why oh why can't I login =(
#1125 [22:22] <TheNytangel> My IP is localhost
#1126 [22:23] <zkxs> I like editing my hosts file. Instead of going to 192.186.1.1 , I go to 'http://router'
#1127 [22:23] <zkxs> *168
#1128 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> :P
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#1135 [22:36] <NinjaKirby> I wonder what's for dinner.
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#1138 [22:46] <Wug> NinjaKirby: I JUST WONDER WHAT GANONS UP TO
#1139 [22:47] <Omega_Guardian> why they changed Ganon to a more generic elf dude instead of the warthog type look he had in the first few games I dunno.
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#1141 [22:55] <NinjaKirby> Wug: You have made this Evening complete.
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#1143 [22:56] <Cruplezone> Hey everyone
#1144 [22:56] <Cruplezone> I have a problem with permissionsex and iconomy
#1145 [22:56] <Cruplezone> apparantly people cant use /pay on my server
#1146 [22:57] <NinjaKirby> saywat
#1147 [22:57] <NinjaKirby> Permissionsex
#1148 [22:57] <NinjaKirby> Are you giraffing
#1149 [22:57] <Cruplezone> PermissionEX lol X)
#1150 [22:57] <Cruplezone> Or whatev its called
#1151 [22:57] <Cruplezone> And yes i be giraffing
#1152 [22:57] <NinjaKirby> lol, I haven't a clue tbh -_-
#1153 [22:57] <Cruplezone> Whatever that means...
#1154 [22:58] <NinjaKirby> Having a laugh, having a bubblebath, having a giraffe.
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#1156 [22:58] <Cruplezone> So can anyone else out there help out?
#1157 [23:00] * Cruplezone talks but his voice is not heard...
#1157 [23:01] <NinjaKirby> Are they mods? It's not usually this channels preference
#1158 [23:02] <Cruplezone> Mods?
#1159 [23:02] <NinjaKirby> To deal with anything but Vanilla setups
#1160 [23:02] <Cruplezone> well...
#1161 [23:02] <Cruplezone> Kind of...
#1162 [23:02] <Cruplezone> ...its really basic
#1163 [23:02] <NinjaKirby> :P I would help if I had a clue, but I don't
#1164 [23:02] <NinjaKirby> I'm here just to get in the way
#1165 [23:03] <NinjaKirby> #risucraft I believe is the Mod Help channel
#1166 [23:03] <NinjaKirby> But maybe someone here will assist when they awake :)
#1167 [23:04] <Cruplezone> Why thank you :3
#1168 [23:04] <NinjaKirby> Good lord, about time I sleep actually, quite late. G'nights.
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#1170 [23:13] <KodarKIRC> whats your problem?
#1171 [23:31] * M1n3cr4ftr [M1n3cr4ftr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1172 [23:32] <M1n3cr4ftr> how can i check if i portforworded right?
#1173 [23:33] <M1n3cr4ftr> i can connect localhost but not through ip
#1174 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Then you didn't port forward correctly
#1175 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> ;check M1n3cr4ftr
#1176 [23:33] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: S0106000ae684e19d.vf.shawcable.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1177 [23:33] <M1n3cr4ftr> um
#1178 [23:33] <M1n3cr4ftr> i did just what the guide said :/
#1179 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> Which guide?
#1180 [23:33] <M1n3cr4ftr> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DIR-615/Minecraft_Server.htm
#1181 [23:33] <GreyVulpine> There's hundreds of them
#1182 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> And what IP address did you port forward to?
#1183 [23:34] <M1n3cr4ftr> my ip4v thingy
#1184 [23:34] <GreyVulpine> Which is?
#1185 [23:34] <M1n3cr4ftr> 192.168.0.109
#1186 [23:35] <M1n3cr4ftr> i put that in the ip address spot
#1187 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> And what port did you forward?
#1188 [23:35] <M1n3cr4ftr> 25565
#1189 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Check your router's status page. Does the public IP address match up with whatismyip.com ?
#1190 [23:37] <M1n3cr4ftr> no
#1191 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> And what is the public ip address that the router says you have?
#1192 [23:37] <M1n3cr4ftr> oops it does
#1193 [23:37] <M1n3cr4ftr> wrong place
#1194 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Are you running the MC server right now?
#1195 [23:38] <M1n3cr4ftr> no
#1196 [23:38] <M1n3cr4ftr> am now
#1197 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> ;check M1n3cr4ftr
#1198 [23:39] <WugBot> S0106000ae684e19d.vf.shawcable.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Mitch's Server (0/20)
#1199 [23:39] <GreyVulpine> There you go then. It works
#1200 [23:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> nope
#1201 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Have other people use your public IP
#1202 [23:40] <M1n3cr4ftr> ?
#1203 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> There are some low-end routers that do not have NAT loopback capability. You cannot use your public IP address to connect to your LAN IP
#1204 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> However, people connecting from outside your house can use your public IP address just fine
#1205 [23:41] <M1n3cr4ftr> hrmf
#1206 [23:41] <M1n3cr4ftr> well ty igtg
#1207 [23:41] * GreyVulpine waves
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#1209 [23:44] <M1n3cr4ftr_> sorry i had to leave so fast...
#1210 [23:44] <M1n3cr4ftr_> got kicked off comp would you mind coppying what you just said and saying it again :)
#1211 [23:46] <GreyVulpine> I didn't say anything afterwards
#1212 [23:48] * M1n3cr4ftr [M1n3cr4ftr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1213 [23:48] <M1n3cr4ftr> omg back again
#1214 [23:51] <M1n3cr4ftr> ;check M1n3cr4ftr
#1215 [23:51] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: S0106000ae684e19d.vf.shawcable.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1216 [23:51] <M1n3cr4ftr> ;check M1n3cr4ftr
#1217 [23:51] <WugBot> S0106000ae684e19d.vf.shawcable.net:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Mitch's Server (0/20)
#1218 [23:51] <M1n3cr4ftr> so does that mean that the server is working?
#1219 [23:51] <M1n3cr4ftr> just not for me...
#1220 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes, it's working
#1221 [23:52] <M1n3cr4ftr> what the heck
#1222 [23:54] <M1n3cr4ftr> so how do i get it to work for me?
#1223 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Use loopback, or your internal IP address
#1224 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Or buy a better router
#1225 [23:54] <M1n3cr4ftr> what loopback
#1226 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> 127.0.0.1
#1227 [23:54] <M1n3cr4ftr> er ok
#1228 [23:55] <M1n3cr4ftr> what about localhost?
#1229 [23:55] <M1n3cr4ftr> if I use localhost will i still be able to play with my friends
#1230 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> localhost == 127.0.0.1
#1231 [23:55] <M1n3cr4ftr> ah
#1232 [23:55] <M1n3cr4ftr> ic
#1233 [23:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes, if your friends use your public ip address
#1234 [23:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> so your 100% sure that people can conect right now using my public?
#1235 [23:56] <GreyVulpine> Absolutely
#1236 [23:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> well then
#1237 [23:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> tyvm :)
#1238 [23:56] <M1n3cr4ftr> the only poblem is....I have no frends online right now :'(
#1239 [23:57] <M1n3cr4ftr> byebye thankyou sir
#1240 [23:57] * M1n3cr4ftr waves