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#28 [02:06] <Madhattter> Does anyone have a link to the Minecraft work around?
#29 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/!
#30 [02:07] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#31 [02:07] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#32 [02:08] <Madhattter> Thanks.
#33 [02:13] <Calinou> "* Madhattter left (Ping timeout: 183 seconds)"
#34 [02:13] <Calinou> *_*
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#48 [05:40] <GreyVulpine> http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/strategy/disciples-ii-gold-edition/
#49 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> 10 minutes left for the game for free, getting it now
#50 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> Dunno what it is yet though :)
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#66 [06:33] <Calinou> http://pastebin.com/6qCg9dm5
#67 [06:33] <Calinou> :/
#68 [06:33] <Calinou> also, lol @ the comment. it seems to be random
#69 [06:34] <Calinou> starting a new world works fine, so it's probably a corrupted world
#70 [06:35] <SinZ> read topic, no pre-release support
#71 [06:35] <SinZ> and that is a bug thats going to be fixed in 19w21b
#72 [06:35] <Calinou> ikr, but pre-release != snapshot :P
#73 [06:35] <Calinou> TIL we're in 2019
#74 [06:36] <SinZ> Snapshots are even less stable then pre releases, so your point is?
#75 [06:36] <Calinou> *_* the debug graph got removed
#76 [06:37] <Calinou> (F3, not shift+F3)
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#83 [07:40] <Pk1n94l1v3> Hey, could anyone help me?
#84 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> possibly
#85 [07:41] <Pk1n94l1v3> If i give the coordinates, could you tell me if i can make a dual Blaze XP farm..?
#86 [07:41] <DiskDaemon> nope
#87 [07:41] <Pk1n94l1v3> owhk, anywhere else i could try?
#88 [07:41] <DiskDaemon> not that I know of
#89 [07:41] <Pk1n94l1v3> :/
#90 [07:42] <Pk1n94l1v3> Can you try and follow what i say, and tell me if its right?
#91 [07:42] <Calinou> lol @ xp farm
#92 [07:43] <Pk1n94l1v3> why? lol
#93 [07:43] <Calinou> just stand there, over slabs of any type and fight them
#94 [07:43] <Pk1n94l1v3> eh
#95 [07:43] <Calinou> slabs can't be set on fire ;)
#96 [07:43] <Calinou> and are ghast proof
#97 [07:43] <Pk1n94l1v3> That's not the problem
#98 [07:43] <Pk1n94l1v3> lol
#99 [07:43] <Pk1n94l1v3> I've got 2 blaze spawners
#100 [07:43] <Pk1n94l1v3> Wanna know if i can activate them at the same spot (so i can get a dual Blaze XP farm)
#101 [07:44] <Pk1n94l1v3> 402, 84, -114. ||| 411, 92, -142.
#102 [07:44] <Pk1n94l1v3> those'r the coords
#103 [07:44] <Pk1n94l1v3> Should i add all the differences to 1 number, and / it by 2?
#104 [07:44] <Pk1n94l1v3> And just pray its below 17? (which its not)
#105 [07:45] <DiskDaemon> 407.5 88 128 is the mid-point of those coords
#106 [07:45] <Pk1n94l1v3> Oh, okay
#107 [07:46] <Pk1n94l1v3> the range of the spawners.. does it have to be within 17 blocks in every direction, or is it like a circle?
#108 [07:47] <DiskDaemon> It's within 16 blocks, and I think that it's a cube
#109 [07:48] <Pk1n94l1v3> Wiki says its 17 o:
#110 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> It says "Blaze spawners can be found only in Nether Fortresses, and will start spawning Blazes once the player gets within 16 blocks." at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Blaze#Spawning
#111 [07:48] <Pk1n94l1v3> oh, thanks
#112 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> What was your wiki refernce?
#113 [07:49] <Pk1n94l1v3> eh, i just remembered it from yesterday, should i start it up to get the link?
#114 [07:49] <Pk1n94l1v3> oh, got it
#115 [07:50] <Pk1n94l1v3> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Monster_spawner#Spawning_Behavior
#116 [07:50] <Pk1n94l1v3> A monster spawner is only active when a player is within a euclidean distance of 17 blocks from the spawner. While the block is active, it will spawn mobs within an 8x3x8 block area (8 wide and 3 high and 8 deep), c
#117 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> Yes thanks, that way things can be corrected, so that errors like that don't propagate any further
#118 [07:50] <Pk1n94l1v3> My English isn't that good so.. could be my fault haha
#119 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> The Discussion page of that wiki page you linked to has further information on the matter.
#120 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Monster_Spawner#Activation_Area
#121 [07:52] <Pk1n94l1v3> ah
#122 [07:53] <DiskDaemon> Directly below it's 17, everywhere else it's 16.
#123 [07:54] <Pk1n94l1v3> what'd you mean?
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#125 [07:58] <Pk1n94l1v3> But.. I doubt i can fuse them, can i?
#126 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> What do you mean, fuse.
#127 [07:58] <Pk1n94l1v3> like.. make them a Dual XP farm
#128 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> Will you be less than 16 away from each of the spawners?
#129 [07:59] <Pk1n94l1v3> That's what i'm trying to figure out xD
#130 [07:59] <Pk1n94l1v3> Btw sorry, talking to someone else also (he talks alot.. <<)
#131 [07:59] <DiskDaemon> What's the difference of each coord between each spawner?
#132 [08:00] <Pk1n94l1v3> 402, 84, -114. ||| 411, 92, -142. (Are the Blaze Spawner coords)
#133 [08:00] <Pk1n94l1v3> and 407,5 - 88 - 128 is the middle
#134 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> Yes, and what is the difference. What is 411-402, for example?
#135 [08:01] <Pk1n94l1v3> Those are the coordinates..?
#136 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> Come on, work out the math.
#137 [08:01] <Pk1n94l1v3> And i have no idea if the spawning area is a circle, a cube, or what..
#138 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> It's a cube
#139 [08:02] <Pk1n94l1v3> oh, you mean the difference
#140 [08:02] <Pk1n94l1v3> ah
#141 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> Yes, and what is the difference. What is 411-402, for example?
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#143 [08:02] <Pk1n94l1v3> I know that, i've done that yesterday, but thought it was about 10 too far away since I thought it would be a circle
#144 [08:02] <Pk1n94l1v3> gme a sec;
#145 [08:03] <Pk1n94l1v3> 9, 8, 28
#146 [08:03] <DiskDaemon> Halve those, and that's the minimum distance you can be from both of them at the same time
#147 [08:04] <abumu> standing in middle would be 5, 4, 14 no?
#148 [08:04] <DiskDaemon> Correct, so as long as you're no more than 16 away, they'll continue to spawn
#149 [08:04] <Pk1n94l1v3> 5, 4, 14 but.. I dont know if it'll be 5+4+14 now
#150 [08:04] <DiskDaemon> So that 14 could go down to 12 (and up to 16 for the other) or vice-versa
#151 [08:04] <Pk1n94l1v3> Or just the highest number (14)
#152 [08:05] <Pk1n94l1v3> I've seen video's of where its a circle so I'm pretty confused atm
#153 [08:05] <DiskDaemon> If you don't want to do the math, just place a colored block below you when you see that both spawners can activate at the same time
#154 [08:06] <Pk1n94l1v3> I've already done the math? lol
#155 [08:06] <DiskDaemon> Understanding the math is the difficult part though, right?
#156 [08:06] <Pk1n94l1v3> Not really
#157 [08:06] <Pk1n94l1v3> (Is what i'm thinking, atleast)
#158 [08:06] <DiskDaemon> Then you have no problem
#159 [08:07] <Pk1n94l1v3> I do, i dont know if the spawning space is a cube (it'll work) or a circle (which would be bad)
#160 [08:07] <Pk1n94l1v3> Btw do you have Skype/Steam/anything I could add you on..?
#161 [08:08] <DiskDaemon> nope
#162 [08:08] <DiskDaemon> Read that Activation Area section that I linked to before - they say in there what type of area it is
#163 [08:09] <Pk1n94l1v3> ok
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#165 [08:15] <Pk1n94l1v3> I did even more extensive testing on 1.0 (SMP). The spawning area is a 31 block sphere around the spawner. This is 15 blocks in any direction with the spawner at the center (the spawner makes the 16th block).
#166 [08:15] <Pk1n94l1v3> What do they mean with 31 block sphere?
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#168 [08:15] <DiskDaemon> They mean that it's a sphere of blocks that are 31 in diameter
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#170 [08:16] <Pk1n94l1v3> Ouch, AKA circle/sphere
#171 [08:17] <Pk1n94l1v3> So i DO have to count all the differences to one number, and hope that that's below 17..
#172 [08:17] <Altazimuth> So MC has been closing itself and I can't pin down the source, I have all of the error files since this started. This only started happening since yesterday, forcing update didn't help. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36523265/hs_err_pids.7z
#173 [08:18] <abumu> as long as all the numbers individually are below 17 you should be fine
#174 [08:19] <DiskDaemon> If in doubt, check that both spawners are still active and mark the spot your're standing on as being a successful spawning spot
#175 [08:19] <Pk1n94l1v3> Yeah, will do
#176 [08:19] <Pk1n94l1v3> Though.. their disabled (glowstone+surrounded) atm, If i'll do that.. can Blazes break Glowstone?
#177 [08:22] <Pk1n94l1v3> Is there another way to know if their active without seeing them spawn/looking at the spawner?
#178 [08:22] <DiskDaemon> I wouldn't think so
#179 [08:23] <Pk1n94l1v3> oh, guess i'll just have to try, hm? .-.
#180 [08:24] <Pk1n94l1v3> Starting server to test it
#181 [08:25] <Altazimuth> I ask you guys because the main minecraft IRC couldn't help
#182 [08:26] <Pk1n94l1v3> Have you already re-downloaded it?
#183 [08:26] <Altazimuth> Yup
#184 [08:26] <Altazimuth> All are the same error AFAIK
#185 [08:28] <Altazimuth> If they're dated, the stuff from today is post-redonwload
#186 [08:36] <Altazimuth> hs_err_pid19760, hs_err_pid50528 and hs_err_pid2664, are the ones post-wipe
#187 [08:38] <Pk1n94l1v3> seems like its working
#188 [08:38] <Pk1n94l1v3> anyway, gtg
#189 [08:38] <Pk1n94l1v3> Later
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#192 [08:47] <Altazimuth> So any ideas?
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#195 [09:11] <Altazimuth> Can anyone help me with an error? Minecraft has been closing itself, here's one of the hr_ess_pids http://pastebin.com/1sXSSwbY
#196 [09:13] <Altazimuth> I've just got another one
#197 [09:13] <Altazimuth> I'll put that up on pastebin, my MC is vanilla.
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#199 [09:14] <Altazimuth> http://pastebin.com/vLu967in There we go
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#201 [09:19] <Altazimuth> Is the log not sufficient?
#202 [09:20] <Necrodoom> i really dont know how to help ya
#203 [09:23] <Altazimuth> Thanks for telling me, better an "I don't know" than no reply at all
#204 [09:24] <Altazimuth> Always seems to be EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005)
#205 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> ExceptionCode=0xc0000005 is an access violation, often caused by faulty memory saying to do something that is not allowed
#206 [09:24] <Necrodoom> id check if your java is recent and all that standard things
#207 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> I suggest that you run a memory test - you can use the tools from http://www.memtest.org/ to achieve that
#208 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> At the very least, it will rule out that possibility, and allow more focused troubleshooting to successfully occur
#209 [09:31] <Altazimuth> Going to burn it to disk then boot I guess
#210 [09:31] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#211 [09:32] <Altazimuth> So how will I tell if something is wrong?
#212 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> The memtest program makes it very clear if something is wrong
#213 [09:33] <Altazimuth> Okay
#214 [09:34] <DiskDaemon> It lets you know what it's doing at stages throughout the testing. Green is good, red is bad.
#215 [09:35] <Altazimuth> Reboot time
#216 [09:35] <Altazimuth> Thanks for the help
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#223 [10:25] <DNLinkman> Hey everyone
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#225 [10:26] <DNLinkman> I have an issue Im sure youve all heard before known as the 'Downloading Terrain' issue. It doesnt happen on any server, just the one public server I've been with for a few months now. It apparently logs me into the client but all I ever see is the words 'Downloading Terrain' and then I get the timeout error.
#226 [10:27] <DNLinkman> We've tried several things such as reinstalling my java and deleting the logs of my player file, also apparently I heard it could have been a rendering issue as two other players had that problem before so they were teleported away in the brief time they logged on - it worked for them but not for me.
#227 [10:27] <Calinou> are you trying to logging in to a modded server?
#228 [10:27] <DNLinkman> How do you mean modded?
#229 [10:27] <Calinou> if a unmodded client connects to a modded server this can happen
#230 [10:28] <Calinou> modded as in "adds content, such as new blocks, items, mobs, dimensions..."
#231 [10:28] <DNLinkman> Uhm... No I dont think so.
#232 [10:28] <Calinou> you can connect to a bukkit server fine without having a modified client, though
#233 [10:28] <DNLinkman> Its got plugins and stuf on.
#234 [10:28] <Calinou> what plugins?
#235 [10:28] <DNLinkman> Yeah its a craftbukkit server.
#236 [10:28] <Calinou> if it's a "tekkit" server it requires client mods
#237 [10:28] <Calinou> tekkit != (craft)bukkit
#238 [10:29] <DNLinkman> Ive never had this issue before.
#239 [10:29] <DNLinkman> Ive been on the server as a regular member for about 4 months.
#240 [10:29] <DNLinkman> It only just randomly happened today.
#241 [10:29] <DNLinkman> I was so regular they even made me a moderator >.>
#242 [10:29] <DNLinkman> But I cannot get on now :(
#243 [10:31] <DNLinkman> So.. anyone know anything I can attempt to fix this?
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#245 [10:32] <xales> DNLinkman: Contact the server administrator, it may be an issue others are experiencing or your userdata may be corrupt
#246 [10:32] <Altazimuth> Well, according to memtest eveything is A OK
#247 [10:32] <DNLinkman> I am in a skype call with the server administrator at the moment.
#248 [10:33] <DNLinkman> He explained at the moment he needs the other admin before he can reconfigure my userdata.
#249 [10:33] <DNLinkman> But no-one else is experiencing this issue at the moment.
#250 [10:37] <Altazimuth> Anyone know how to deal with EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005)? I did a memtest and nothing is corrupted
#251 [10:37] <Calinou> occasionally happens, access violations are the windows counterpart of segfaults
#252 [10:37] <Altazimuth> Thing is
#253 [10:38] <Altazimuth> 11 over the course of not much gameplay
#254 [10:38] <Altazimuth> I'm going to try mess with my drivers
#255 [10:38] <Calinou> inb4 amd
#256 [10:38] <Altazimuth> Yup
#257 [10:39] <Altazimuth> It never had this issue before though
#258 [10:41] <Altazimuth> AMD + Minecraft = Crash?
#259 [10:41] <Calinou> AMD just sucks :P
#260 [10:41] <xales> Altazimuth: Can you provide the entire error message, using a service such as pastebin?
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#262 [10:41] <Calinou> ^ that
#263 [10:41] <Altazimuth> I did that earlier
#264 [10:41] <Altazimuth> I'll do it again
#265 [10:42] <Altazimuth> Found it http://pastebin.com/vLu967in
#266 [10:42] <xales> Yeah, it's a driver issue. Install the latest version of the ATI/AMD drivers
#267 [10:43] <Altazimuth> Thanks
#268 [10:43] <Altazimuth> Time to be lazy
#269 [10:43] <Altazimuth> And let Steam do it for me
#270 [10:43] <Calinou> *________*
#271 [10:43] <Altazimuth> Calinou: What does that mean?
#272 [10:43] <Boreeas> lol Calinou
#273 [10:44] <xales> If you are going to be lazy and not do it properly, don't expect it to work.
#274 [10:44] <Altazimuth> Reasonable
#275 [10:44] <Calinou> VoxelHead, y u +q me... also, your PM lacks a ")"
#276 [10:44] <xales> You should download the driver directly from AMD
#277 [10:44] <Altazimuth> I'll do it the effective way then
#278 [10:44] <Calinou> "java_command: C:\Users\Max\Documents\My Games\Minecraft.exe" < try not to put spaces in the path
#279 [10:45] <Calinou> sometimes messes up. applies to any and all programs
#280 [10:45] <xales> Calinou: It doesn't /really/ matter :p
#281 [10:45] <Calinou> I like your way of doing italic text, lol
#282 [10:45] <xales> lol
#283 [10:45] <Boreeas> Calinou: How do you do it, if not with //?
#284 [10:45] <xales> Boreeas: Technically italics is _whatever_
#285 [10:46] <Calinou> I just don't do it. :P
#286 [10:46] <Calinou> _whatever_ is more like underline
#287 [10:46] <Boreeas> __ for underlined, // for italic and ** for bold
#288 [10:46] <xales> _ is actually italics
#289 [10:46] <xales> I'm not kidding, you can look it up
#290 [10:46] <Calinou> some clients actually put those in bold/etc
#291 [10:46] <Calinou> xales, yeah it is
#292 [10:46] <Boreeas> It doesn't make sense, xales :<
#293 [10:46] <Calinou> and for strike... -?
#294 [10:46] <Boreeas> -test-
#295 [10:47] <Calinou> could look like struck text.
#296 [10:47] * Calinou doesn't say "striked"... is it correct?
#296 [10:47] <Boreeas> Oh, there is also %the control chars
#297 [10:47] <Calinou> bold text (ctrl+b on xchat)
#298 [10:47] <Calinou> do you see this as bold? ^
#299 [10:47] <Altazimuth> God I hate how AMD do drivers
#300 [10:47] <Boreeas> %%b on Chatzilla, and no
#301 [10:48] <Calinou> I don't see %%b as bold
#302 [10:48] <Boreeas> Yeah, it get's replaced with th actual control char before sedning, but %% escapes the single %
#303 [10:48] <xales> No, for strike, ^d
#304 [10:48] <xales> :p
#305 [10:49] <Calinou> %bis this bold?
#306 [10:49] <xales> Nope
#307 [10:49] <xales> This is +c anyway, formatting is stripped
#308 [10:53] <Altazimuth> welp, updated drivers,
#309 [10:56] <Altazimuth> Newest drivers, still crashes.
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#311 [10:56] <Altazimuth> Same error and everything.
#312 [10:59] <Boreeas> xales: Can't +v and +o bypass the color stripping?
#313 [11:00] <xales> Nope
#314 [11:00] <xales> Altazimuth: What video card do you have?
#315 [11:00] <Altazimuth> AMD HD 6850
#316 [11:00] <Altazimuth> I can give you the specific version
#317 [11:00] <Altazimuth> MSI R6850 Cyclone Power Edition
#318 [11:04] <xales> Altazimuth: Is the driver version you installed 12.4?
#319 [11:05] <Altazimuth> Not sure
#320 [11:05] <Altazimuth> How do I check?
#321 [11:06] <xales> Is this what you installed? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx
#322 [11:06] <Altazimuth> Yes
#323 [11:08] <xales> Hmm, when did it start giving you this error?
#324 [11:08] <Altazimuth> Yesterday
#325 [11:08] <xales> Did you change anything that may have caused it? Installed something, updated something, et cetera?
#326 [11:08] <Altazimuth> Nope
#327 [11:08] <xales> Do you have Windows set to automatically install updates?
#328 [11:09] <Altazimuth> Yes
#329 [11:09] <Altazimuth> well
#330 [11:09] <Altazimuth> wait
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#333 [11:09] <Altazimuth> Gah, I can no longer talk how I think.
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#335 [11:09] <xales> You can now, sorry about that. The bot is unfriendly.
#336 [11:09] <Altazimuth> But yeah, afaik no, it only auto-updates for important stuff
#337 [11:11] <xales> There should be a "View update history" option or something like that in the Windows Update control panel, can you see if it installed anything around when the error started?
#338 [11:12] <Altazimuth> A definition update for windows defender on the 18th
#339 [11:13] <xales> Hmm. Just to make sure (the driver reload mechanism doesn't always work right), could you try restarting?
#340 [11:14] <Altazimuth> I'll do so later, a friend just invited me to a game of Dungeon Defenders ._.
#341 [11:14] <Altazimuth> Thanks for the help though
#342 [11:15] <xales> Of course, I hope you manage to get it working.
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#349 [11:48] <emkay443> Good evening. Does anyone know if jeb_ disabled the multiplayer mode for single player worlds with 12w21b, or why my friends can't connect to my single player world? It worked fine with 12w19a...
#350 [11:48] <Necrodoom> my guess its a random bug
#351 [11:49] <emkay443> netstat doesn't show anything running on port 25565... weird...
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#353 [11:51] <emkay443> Also, all multiplayer related commands (/whitelist, /op, etc...) have disapperead from /help in singleplayer since the last update...
#354 [11:52] <Necrodoom> gah, mojang dropped bug tracker
#355 [11:53] <Necrodoom> instead we get a lame FAQ
#356 [11:53] <Necrodoom> with even lamer Q
#357 [11:53] <Calinou> ^
#358 [11:53] <Calinou> GS was full of "will there be dragons :((((((((((" anyway
#359 [11:54] <emkay443> Well, there is a bug tracker type thing...
#360 [11:54] <emkay443> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs
#361 [11:55] <Calinou> VoxelHead, FFS, stop this.
#362 [11:55] <Morrolan> Yea, using the wiki as a bugtracker has some advantages over using GetSatisfaction anyway.
#363 [11:55] <Necrodoom> very outdated, though
#364 [11:55] <Calinou> emkay443, it kinda sucks, mojang doesn't read it anymore
#365 [11:55] <Morrolan> Last I read, jeb still uses it.
#366 [11:55] <Calinou> Necrodoom, there's a bug list about latest stable & snapshots
#367 [11:55] * Calinou laughs: he imagines mojang using redmine, or github, or anything of that kind
#367 [11:56] <ShaRose> well, they DO have a github but it's private
#368 [11:56] <emkay443> Yes, for their API stuff.
#369 [11:56] <ShaRose> as far as we know
#370 [11:57] <Morrolan> They might have a git repository, but is it hosted on GitHub?
#371 [11:57] <ShaRose> the game DOES have a git repo.
#372 [11:57] <ShaRose> They've said this.
#373 [11:57] <ShaRose> Don't know if it's hosted on github though: Back when they used svn it was hosted on mojang's server.
#374 [11:58] <Calinou> ShaRose, you don't say github
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#376 [11:58] <Calinou> they have a git repo though
#377 [11:58] * Calinou laughs at them using git
#377 [11:59] <Calinou> at least they don't use svn anymore
#378 [11:59] <Morrolan> Git is nice. :)
#379 [11:59] <ShaRose> didn't I JUST say I didn't know if it was on github?
#380 [11:59] <ShaRose> and what's wrong with git?
#381 [11:59] <emkay443> And what's wrong with svn? To be honest, I haven't used it for years now, but really, what's so wrong with it?
#382 [11:59] <Calinou> git ftw
#383 [11:59] <Calinou> SVN is... meh, lacks features
#384 [12:00] <ShaRose> emkay443 svn doesn't really scale well with projects with a lot of people.
#385 [12:00] <ShaRose> It leads to people not commiting until it's a large change and stuff.
#386 [12:00] <Morrolan> Then again, Minecraft has two active developers or so. ;)
#387 [12:00] <Morrolan> Okay, now with the bukkit team it might be five.
#388 [12:00] <Calinou> 4-5
#389 [12:00] <ShaRose> With git, you can just commit stuff to your local repo.
#390 [12:00] <Calinou> jeb/jon/dinnerbone/grum/evilseph mostly
#391 [12:01] <Calinou> and the PE/xbox dudes
#392 [12:01] <ShaRose> mmm
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#394 [12:02] <emkay443> Is anyone here able to connect to a single player world (via multiplayer) with the last snapshot? It still doesn't work for me...
#395 [12:03] <Calinou> start a dedicated server then :P
#396 [12:03] <Calinou> maybe mojang intentionally removed that feature
#397 [12:03] <Calinou> singleplayer should stay singleplayer
#398 [12:03] <Necrodoom> that was half the point of the effing merge
#399 [12:03] <Calinou> also, you need to forward ports correctly
#400 [12:04] <emkay443> The ports are forwarded to my PC, but even netstat says there's nothing running on port 25565
#401 [12:09] <xales> emkay443: If it's a single player game, you can't really expect to connect to it
#402 [12:11] <emkay443> Well, they changed the single player mode in one of the last snapshots to use a local server... I was able to connect to single player worlds with 12w19a, but now it's not working anymore.
#403 [12:13] <Calinou> start a dedicated server, it should work ;)
#404 [12:13] <Calinou> put minecraft_server.jar in some other folder, use a .bat/.sh file to start it
#405 [12:14] <xales> It's a development snapshot, things are going to get removed/changed/whatever. As Calinou suggests, just run the server binary.
#406 [12:14] <Calinou> doubleclicking might work, depends of your OS and its configuration ;)
#407 [12:15] <Calinou> on my computer, doubleclicking a jar opens it with 7zip
#408 [12:18] <emkay443> The minecraft_server.jar is working just fine, but the thing is, Mojang made it possible for people to connect to others in SSP with one of the last snapshots. Now, it's not working anymore, at least not on my machine. All I want to know is if that's intended or if I'm the only one where that isn't working. I twittered jeb, but he didn't reply since then.
#409 [12:19] <Necrodoom> i suggest you just wait, i found it impossible to get what mojang is thinking
#410 [12:20] <Necrodoom> for example, replacing broken furnace minecart with broken booster rails, jeeping broken furnace cart
#411 [12:20] <Necrodoom> keeping*
#412 [12:20] <emkay443> Yeah, that's true...
#413 [12:20] <emkay443> Yeah, that's true...
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#417 [12:25] <Jordan> Hello?
#418 [12:28] <Leiche_> Hello, how can I fix the minecraft_server for the new snapshot?
#419 [12:31] <emkay443> @Leiche_ Do you mean the single player server, or multiplayer server?
#420 [12:31] <Leiche_> SP server
#421 [12:31] <Leiche_> It worked yesterday ONCE, then it all broke
#422 [12:31] <Leiche_> .
#423 [12:32] <emkay443> Do you use 12w21a or 12w21b?
#424 [12:32] <Leiche_> 12w21b
#425 [12:32] <Leiche_> I just downloaded it, its still broken :C
#426 [12:33] <emkay443> I've got the same problem. No multiplayer commands in single player chat, people can't connect to my PC, and the port isn't used by anything at all. And Mojang doesn't give voice to that problem...
#427 [12:34] <Necrodoom> mojang is mojang, will always notch ya..
#428 [12:34] <Leiche_> No, it seems to refuse to start.
#429 [12:34] <emkay443> Are you using Linux?
#430 [12:34] <Leiche_> Nope Win7 and MultiMC
#431 [12:34] <Leiche_> Alright, why the heck does it work now
#432 [12:35] <emkay443> Hm, okay... I thought it could be my operating system, but if it isn't working on Windows as well...
#433 [12:35] <Leiche_> MultiplayerchunkCache 0
#434 [12:36] <Leiche_> YES it works!
#435 [12:36] <Leiche_> Although I didn't do anything.
#436 [12:50] <Calinou> "and MultiMC" lol
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#438 [12:55] <ahs5070> hello
#439 [12:55] <ahs5070> anyone over there
#440 [12:56] <Necrodoom> yes
#441 [12:57] <ahs5070> thx. I boughgt the game, It worked fine but one day it started to fail. I will write de error line
#442 [12:57] <ahs5070> EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006903d218, pid=4776, tid=4772
#443 [12:58] <ahs5070> I reinstalled java, game (several times), drivers updated,
#444 [12:58] <ahs5070> windows 7 64 vig, atiraedon hd5270
#445 [12:58] <Necrodoom> it started failing at a certain version or randomly?
#446 [12:59] <ahs5070> I think it started once i updated minecraft
#447 [12:59] <ahs5070> It happened about 5 months ago more or less
#448 [13:00] <Necrodoom> at these cases i usually recommend using a custom client
#449 [13:00] <Necrodoom> had minecraft fail to load completely randomly at alpha, nothing i tried worked
#450 [13:00] <ahs5070> what does it mean please?
#451 [13:00] <Necrodoom> except using some custom client
#452 [13:00] <Necrodoom> such as spout
#453 [13:02] <ahs5070> spout? sorry i dont understand
#454 [13:02] <Necrodoom> well, there are some projects to replace the launcher of minecraft
#455 [13:02] <Necrodoom> to make it better
#456 [13:02] <Necrodoom> one of them is called spout
#457 [13:03] <ahs5070> is like a program then. where can i get it
#458 [13:04] <Necrodoom> looking for it, sec
#459 [13:04] <ahs5070> ok
#460 [13:05] <Necrodoom> http://www.spout.org/
#461 [13:05] <ahs5070> Muste be a general problem so also I can not to play Steam (except railworks), friendware, etc..
#462 [13:05] <ahs5070> or
#463 [13:05] <ahs5070> ok
#464 [13:05] <ahs5070> thx for your attention and polite
#465 [13:06] <ahs5070> good day
#466 [13:06] <Necrodoom> np, hope it will solve your problem
#467 [13:11] <Calinou> Necrodoom, .jar launcher simply :P
#468 [13:11] <Calinou> the .jar launcher works better than .exe launcher, you should try it
#469 [13:11] <Calinou> a bit more involved though, but doubleclicking might work as-is
#470 [13:11] <ahs5070> Necrodoom it doesnt solve, error log A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
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#472 [13:12] <quaddle> I keep getting "Downloading Terrain" time out errors!
#473 [13:13] <Necrodoom> ahs5070: hm, java 1.6 or 1.7?
#474 [13:13] <ahs5070> I reinstalled yesterday from jave website
#475 [13:13] <ahs5070> jave for firefox and java for explorer
#476 [13:13] <Calinou> java 6 works better than 7, less bugs
#477 [13:13] <Calinou> use 64 bit java on a 64 bit OS
#478 [13:14] <ahs5070> yes jave 64 bit
#479 [13:15] <ahs5070> jre 7u4 windows x64 is the name of the file i download from java
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#481 [13:15] <ahs5070> jpxinstall also download from website for firefox
#482 [13:16] <ahs5070> I will try uninstall and install jave 6
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#489 [14:03] <evolon> Does anyone have any idea how to decide which files to keep and which to get rid of when you have conflicting .class files? [Like, in ModLoader and ModLoaderMP, or either one with Forge]
#490 [14:03] <drift> hello minecrafters : What is the best way to collect slime for sticky pistons ?
#491 [14:04] <Calinou> building a slimeball farm maybe. or just going in caves and finding slimes there
#492 [14:04] <Calinou> in multiplayer you can't see the "slime chunks" since you can't see the world seed.
#493 [14:04] <Calinou> in multiplayer, you could also... trade for slimeballs :P
#494 [14:04] <drift> lol k ty\
#495 [14:05] <evolon> Does anyone have any idea how to decide which files to keep and which to get rid of when you have conflicting .class files? [Like, in ModLoader and ModLoaderMP, or either one with Forge]
#496 [14:05] <Calinou> no need to repeat your question. ;)
#497 [14:05] <Calinou> you can't just remove class files if they conflict
#498 [14:06] <Calinou> you have to force update and reinstall all the mods. (this is why you should backup your minecraft.jar when modding it)
#499 [14:08] <evolon> Well, I meant more like when mods have overlapping .class files, how would you decide which .class file to use?
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#501 [14:09] <Boreeas> evolon: If one of them is a framework, such as that plugin manager whose name I cannot recall right now, that one goes in first, than any plugins that use that framework
#502 [14:10] <Boreeas> If they both can't work with each other's file though, you can only install one of those
#503 [14:10] <Boreeas> Right. ModLoader was the name
#504 [14:11] <evolon> Well, what about ModLoader and Forge? On the latest Forge download, it says that ModLoader is a dependency. Does that mean you install Forge and then ModLoader, or ModLoader then Forge? And what about ModLoaderMP?
#505 [14:12] <Calinou> MCPatcher has a "mod installing" feature... it isn't magic but it can help
#506 [14:12] <Calinou> the magic launcher too
#507 [14:12] <Calinou> evolon, ML > MLMP > Forge is the right order AFAIK
#508 [14:13] <evolon> AFAIK?
#509 [14:13] <Calinou> as far as i know
#510 [14:14] <Boreeas> evolon: If a mod x has a dependency on mod y, y needs to be installed first so the dependency is satisfied
#511 [14:14] <evolon> Ah, alright
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#513 [14:32] <Leokul> Good day everyone
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#519 [14:39] <nocaps> is there a way to disable AI in minecraft?
#520 [14:39] <nocaps> or a mod?
#521 [14:41] <Leokul> Don't know, sorry
#522 [14:41] <Leokul> How much do you want to disable? Just the mobs?
#523 [14:41] <nocaps> yup
#524 [14:42] <nocaps> literally, just turn off movement and aggro
#525 [14:42] <Leokul> Do you want them in the game but stationary or completely out?
#526 [14:42] <nocaps> would be awesome if someone could make a little mod for it
#527 [14:42] <nocaps> stationary without aggro
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#529 [14:42] <Leokul> What for? lol
#530 [14:42] <nocaps> need it for a project im working on
#531 [14:42] <Leokul> Ah
#532 [14:42] <nocaps> using noppes NPC custom mod
#533 [14:43] <nocaps> you do any coding?
#534 [14:43] <nocaps> or know how to do this at all?
#535 [14:44] <Leokul> Not the slightest
#536 [14:44] <nocaps> damn :/
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#538 [14:45] <Leokul> Sorry buddy
#539 [14:46] <nocaps> np
#540 [14:47] <nocaps> anyone else got any idea how to disable AI?
#541 [14:49] <Leokul> In fact I'm still trying to figure out why my buddy can't connect to the server I just set up when I have my 25565 forwarded just fine =/
#542 [14:49] <nocaps> use hamachi
#543 [14:50] <Leokul> googling now, thanks
#544 [14:50] <nocaps> its simple to use
#545 [14:51] <nocaps> you set up a lan network with it just by clicking a few links within the program, set a password etc, give your mate the username and password and then change your IP to your hamachi IP
#546 [14:51] <Leokul> My friends won't need Hamachi as well will they?
#547 [14:51] <GreyVulpine> Also horrid to use, because anybody that connects, will need hamachi as well
#548 [14:51] <nocaps> yeah he will
#549 [14:51] <nocaps> well its fine if his just using it for him and his friend
#550 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> And not to mention, adds a layer of needless complexity on top of the network connectivity
#551 [14:52] <Leokul> What if i want it to be public without having to use Hamachi
#552 [14:52] <nocaps> hey vulpine, you got any idea about disabling AI in minecraft?
#553 [14:52] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, no I don't.
#554 [14:52] <nocaps> no idea then
#555 [14:53] <Calinou> nocaps, "disable AI"?
#556 [14:53] <nocaps> yeah
#557 [14:53] <nocaps> turn off aggro
#558 [14:53] <nocaps> no movement
#559 [14:53] <Calinou> you mean, use the old "dumb" mob AI? that's nontrivial
#560 [14:53] <nocaps> but then being able to enable it again
#561 [14:53] <Calinou> oh, that. SPC has a /freeze command to freeze mobs
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#563 [14:53] <nocaps> yeah ive used that but it conflicts slightly with noppes npc custom mod
#564 [14:54] <nocaps> if i use the cloner tool, it doesnt spawn the NPC when in freeze mod which is when i need it to work
#565 [14:55] <nocaps> freeze mode*
#566 [14:56] <nocaps> think i found a mod
#567 [14:57] <Leokul> Nice
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#585 [15:59] <mib_2kqfr4> Hello, I am going to connect to a server and it keeps saying downloading terrain than it times me out :S? any help
#586 [16:00] <Flamechad> Hello, I am going to connect to a server and it keeps saying downloading terrain than it times me out :S? any help
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#588 [16:07] <Guest__> hi
#589 [16:07] <Kabiigon> my friend is having a issue with the save chunk bug
#590 [16:08] <Kabiigon> it won't let her start her game
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#592 [16:10] <Kabiigon> is there a way she can fix it
#593 [16:14] <Calinou> Kabiigon, any error message? we need more information
#594 [16:15] <Kabiigon> she says it just goes saving chunks then screen goes to black
#595 [16:16] <Kabiigon> I'm not there to troubleshoot
#596 [16:16] <clarjon1> Kabiigon: ask her if it does this when creating a new world to test
#597 [16:16] <Kabiigon> she can't boot the program
#598 [16:16] <clarjon1> eh
#599 [16:16] <clarjon1> yes she can
#600 [16:17] <clarjon1> saving chunks comes after the program is running.
#601 [16:17] <clarjon1> Kabiigon: Saving chunks doesn't happen until she loads a save file.
#602 [16:18] <clarjon1> Kabiigon: Ask her to, when she is at the list of worlds, to click on the button to create a new one.
#603 [16:18] <clarjon1> Kabiigon: see if it does the same thing there.
#604 [16:18] <clarjon1> Kabiigon: Also, ask her if she can come in here, so we can help her directly.
#605 [16:18] <Kabiigon> ok
#606 [16:18] <Kabiigon> just one thing
#607 [16:18] <Kabiigon> there is a bad link on the main site for this chat room
#608 [16:20] <Kabiigon> do you guys accept mibbit
#609 [16:20] <clarjon1> yea
#610 [16:21] <Kabiigon> do you control minecraft.net
#611 [16:21] <clarjon1> nope
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#614 [16:29] <Kabiigon> do u have mibbit link
#615 [16:29] <Kabiigon> she's not that computer friendly
#616 [16:29] <Boreeas> Mibbit link to what?
#617 [16:29] <Kabiigon> or another web irc link
#618 [16:29] <Kabiigon> this chan
#619 [16:29] <Boreeas> This channel?
#620 [16:29] <Kabiigon> yes
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#622 [16:30] <Calinou> http://webchat.esper.net
#623 [16:30] <Boreeas> http://webchat.esper.net/?minecrafthelp#
#624 [16:30] <Calinou> what Boreeas said ;)
#625 [16:30] <Boreeas> I think
#626 [16:30] <Boreeas> I hope
#627 [16:30] <Calinou> nope it doesn't point to #minecrafthelp. gonna fix it
#628 [16:31] <testagthst> Works for me, anyways :|
#629 [16:31] <Calinou> http://webchat.esper.net/?nick=&channels=minecrafthelp
#630 [16:31] <Calinou> testagthst, no pre-selected channel
#631 [16:31] <testagthst> Ah, damn
#632 [16:33] <Kabiigon> Calinou she says the new world don't crash
#633 [16:33] <Calinou> there's possible world corruption
#634 [16:33] <Calinou> see http://mcsaver.net - you might ask that guy
#635 [16:33] <Calinou> he's still around
#636 [16:42] <Kabiigon> is mcdata interchangeable between OS's
#637 [16:50] <Morrolan> It is.
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#639 [16:58] <Calinou> yes
#640 [16:58] <Calinou> not between computer/PE/xbox editions though
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#642 [17:01] <Kabiigon> what is PE
#643 [17:01] <zkxs> Portable Edition
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#645 [17:05] <Kabiigon> oh
#646 [17:07] <Kabiigon> ok
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#649 [17:17] <Honeyside_> My Minecraft Crashes w/ Smart Moving. http://pastebin.com/CHN5CNSi
#650 [17:17] <bblewitt> hey all, I am looking for some help about the new snapshots from 12w16a to 12w21b. How to I set up a server (I have done the portforward part)?
#651 [17:18] <Honeyside_> Can someone help w/ this error? http://pastebin.com/CHN5CNSi
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#653 [17:20] <Honeyside_> CAN someone please help me with my error http://pastebin.com/CHN5CNSi
#654 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Honeyside_ - Try asking in #risucraft
#655 [17:22] <Honeyside_> That's not really a modsupport channel...
#656 [17:22] <Boreeas> Neither is this
#657 [17:23] <bblewitt> umm no clue there but try installing each mod at a time (make backups) to find the problem. do the API's first then the others
#658 [17:23] <Honeyside_> bblewitt, that's what I'm doing
#659 [17:23] <Honeyside_> thanks
#660 [17:23] <bblewitt> np
#661 [17:24] <bblewitt> never seen a report like that before. lol
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#663 [17:24] <bblewitt> I am looking for some help about the new snapshots from 12w16a to 12w21b. How to I set up a server (I have done the portforward part)?
#664 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> http://www.mojang.com/
#665 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Check out: Server: http://assets.minecraft.net/12w21b/minecraft_server.jar (or EXE)
#666 [17:27] <bblewitt> I have that and put it in the .minecraft/servers folder but then what it is still SSP or CSP
#667 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> I don't believe you need to put it in .minecraft/servers
#668 [17:28] <bblewitt> umm well in single player of the snapshots lately u need to in order to create a world
#669 [17:29] <bblewitt> because of the client and server put together thing
#670 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Beats me then. I haven't tried the recent snapshots. There's a reason why neither Mojang, nor many of us, will support it
#671 [17:30] <bblewitt> I like the thought of putting them together like the XBLA version but there is no option to have online mode on or off lol
#672 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> The MP server integration into SP is still quite buggy, last I heard
#673 [17:32] <bblewitt> umm I have had no problems in SSP of the 12w21a so far but I have got the 12w21b so idk about that one.
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#677 [17:34] <bblewitt> I just want to play with friends and out of all of them I have the best computer and connection but idk if you need to create a bat file like you have to do in 1.2.5 to run the server
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#680 [17:37] <sunyshoremon> Is it possible in worldedit to make a peice of land then make it so it looks like it's natural with mineral layers and etc like it was generated randomly? Please would like to know.
#681 [17:43] <fault> !check mc.parachan.net
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#683 [17:48] <MarcgX> http://minecraftservers.net/server/25323/
#684 [17:48] <MarcgX> oh crap!
#685 [17:48] <MarcgX> Im so srry wrong channel
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#689 [18:18] <mib_b4ahg6> hi
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#692 [18:20] <MarcgX> HI MI
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#700 [18:27] <Chommie> anyone here?
#701 [18:28] <zkxs> yes
#702 [18:29] <Chommie> Would anyone know why when I try to purchase minecraft it asks me for my passport information...which I do not have I am from U.S.
#703 [18:29] <Chommie> it is asking me to verify my identiy when i try to buy minecraft throught minecraft.net
#704 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> This is why: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#705 [18:29] <Chommie> wasnt sure if it was my card or an issue
#706 [18:30] <Chommie> oh so i need to use paypal
#707 [18:31] <zkxs> Mojang is based in Sweden, so being in the US doesn't offer you any advantage
#708 [18:32] <Chommie> ah i didn't know
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#710 [18:33] <Raslar21> anyone know how I can get the new snapshot to work?
#711 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> By placing it over the top of an already installed version of Minecraft
#712 [18:34] <Raslar21> cause after i login it goes to the updating minecraft screen but it NEVER changes
#713 [18:34] <Raslar21> hmmm
#714 [18:34] <DiskDaemon> The snapshot cannot update or download, because the only available download is the 1.2.5 version
#715 [18:35] <Raslar21> ok well I tried doing the over the already installed version and it did nothing -_-
#716 [18:36] <Leokul> Anyone here good with network issues with Windows-based servers?
#717 [18:36] <Raslar21> having trouble with port-fowarding?
#718 [18:37] <Leokul> I suppose I am
#719 [18:37] <Leokul> I'm not stranger to port forwarding
#720 [18:37] <Leokul> I have it set up for my XBL so I don't have NAT restrictions
#721 [18:37] <Leokul> Also for some Mac products
#722 [18:37] <Raslar21> well you could try looking on youtube cause i know for a fact that I have seen some vids on there that deals with port-fowarding and how to set up a server
#723 [18:37] <Leokul> I also don't use anti-virus products that would be blocking connections
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#725 [18:39] <Raslar21> hmmm
#726 [18:39] <Leokul> But my buddies can't connect to my damn server and - http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ - tells me my IP is closed on the ports =(
#727 [18:40] <Leokul> 25565 is wide open on my router but for some stupid reason it isn't passing traffic =/
#728 [18:40] <zkxs> Is the server running? Also, did you make an exception in your firewall?
#729 [18:40] <Raslar21> also how much RAM do you have?
#730 [18:40] <Leokul> Like I said, I don't use an AV that would have a firewall
#731 [18:40] <Leokul> And Windows Firewall is also off
#732 [18:41] <Raslar21> http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/ <----- this is very helpful even for me lol
#733 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> Get http://portforward.com/store/back296/PFPortChecker1.0.39.exe to check the port
#734 [18:41] <Leokul> http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ also works
#735 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> yougetsignal - nice
#736 [18:41] <Leokul> Yep
#737 [18:42] <zkxs> Raslar21: RAM doesn't have anything to do with not being able to connect
#738 [18:42] <zkxs> Leokul: You only have one router, right? Having two means you have to port forward twice
#739 [18:43] <Leokul> Yesm only my (albeit shitty) WRT160N
#740 [18:44] <zkxs> And your are forwarding to your correct Local IP? Probably 192.168.1.something?
#741 [18:44] <Leokul> You betcha
#742 [18:44] <Raslar21> not for him but it does for other people though
#743 [18:44] <zkxs> Is your server running?
#744 [18:44] <Leokul> Not currently, I can put it on right now if you'd like to test
#745 [18:45] <zkxs> That would be nice
#746 [18:45] <Leokul> Alrighty
#747 [18:45] <zkxs> That way I can actually check to see if it is up :P
#748 [18:45] <Leokul> 50.70.53.89
#749 [18:45] <Leokul> Give er a shot
#750 [18:45] <zkxs> No response
#751 [18:45] <Leokul> I can connect using localhost just fine, it's only external (hence firewall/port forwarding issues)
#752 [18:46] <zkxs> can you connect with your 192.168.1 address?
#753 [18:46] <Leokul> Well you're supposed to use localhost instead of an ip since my own computer is running it
#754 [18:46] <Raslar21> then that's the problem then
#755 [18:46] <zkxs> Well, if you can't connect to 192.168.1.? that would tell me something
#756 [18:47] <Raslar21> wait cignort that post
#757 [18:47] <Raslar21> *ignore
#758 [18:47] <Leokul> lol
#759 [18:47] <Leokul> Me being able to connect isn't the issue
#760 [18:47] <Leokul> It's everyone else that is
#761 [18:48] <Leokul> Again, hence the firewall/port forwarding
#762 [18:48] <Raslar21> cause i have the same issue with me and my gf trying to play together
#763 [18:48] <Leokul> However the other port forwards I have set up in my router for other applications are working jsut fine
#764 [18:49] <Raslar21> gah darn those typo fairies xD
#765 [18:49] <zkxs> Leokul: Did you specify an IP in server.properties?
#766 [18:49] <Leokul> Port to be forwarded is 25565 , I know I have that right, i've quadruple checked
#767 [18:49] <Raslar21> lol anyways hmm
#768 [18:49] <zkxs> That is correct
#769 [18:49] <Leokul> Hmmm, maybe I didn't. I'll check now
#770 [18:49] <zkxs> Leokul: You aren't supposed to, it ought to be blank
#771 [18:49] <Raslar21> maybe that's what my prob was lol idk
#772 [18:49] <Leokul> The only network-related thing I see in the server.properties is the port line - "server-port=25565"
#773 [18:50] <Leokul> Nothing about IP
#774 [18:50] <zkxs> There is a 'server-ip=' line, that ought to be blank
#775 [18:50] <Leokul> Ah, yep, there it is
#776 [18:50] <Leokul> And yes, it's blank
#777 [18:51] <zkxs> Good. It only needs something if you have multiple active network adapters
#778 [18:51] <Leokul> Ahhh, good to know for the future
#779 [18:51] <zkxs> Essentially, if you have two internet connections, that lets you tell minecraft which one to use. It should almost always be blank.
#780 [18:52] <Leokul> Right on
#781 [18:52] <zkxs> Well, if the server is running, and it isn't your firewall, and it isn't your port forwarding, I'm not sure what it could be
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#783 [18:52] <zkxs> Do you have any other servers running that are working?
#784 [18:53] <Raslar21> k, good to know *thumbs up*
#785 [18:53] <Leokul> No, no other servers
#786 [18:53] <Raslar21> well maybe they need to disable their firewalls?
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#788 [18:54] <Leokul> Other people's firewalls wouldn't prevent them from connecting to an external server like mine
#789 [18:54] <Cairbear> I'm wondering if anyone here can help me with a framerate issue I'm having. After about 5 minutes of playing my framerate takes a massive freefall to around 0-5 fps.
#790 [18:54] <Leokul> Doesn't work that way
#791 [18:54] <zkxs> And you're sure your local IP is the right one? Like you got it from ipconfig today?
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#793 [18:54] <Leokul> lol Yes
#794 [18:54] <Leokul> It's static through my router
#795 [18:54] <zkxs> It is outside of the DHCP range?
#796 [18:54] <Leokul> As is my XBox
#797 [18:54] <Leokul> Negative. If it were, I wouldn't be online now would I? :)
#798 [18:55] <Leokul> Well actually that's wrong, sorry
#799 [18:55] <zkxs> Uh, yeah you would
#800 [18:55] <Leokul> My XBox is *.11 when my DHCP is *.100 - *.249
#801 [18:55] <Leokul> So, my apologies, yes I could
#802 [18:55] <zkxs> I'm on 192.168.1.11, which is out of my DHCP range which is 100+
#803 [18:55] <Leokul> But no, my PC is, and always will be *.100
#804 [18:55] <Leokul> lol I use .11 for my XBox :)
#805 [18:56] <zkxs> could you try making it something out of the DHCP range?
#806 [18:56] <Leokul> Hmmm, sure
#807 [18:56] <zkxs> That *could* be an issue
#808 [18:56] <Leokul> I'll have to change my other port forwards
#809 [18:56] <Leokul> Alright, lemme give that a shot
#810 [18:56] <zkxs> What other port forwards do you have?
#811 [18:57] <Raslar21> Cairbear did you update your java?
#812 [18:57] <Cairbear> Raslar21, I've tried both updating java and completely reinstalling minecraft.
#813 [18:57] <Raslar21> or even try changing to a lower texture pack
#814 [18:57] <Cairbear> As well as uninstall/reinstalling java.
#815 [18:57] <Cairbear> I use the default textures. My computer can more than handle it.
#816 [18:58] <Raslar21> cause sometimes it's the texture pack your using that's to high
#817 [18:58] <Cairbear> When I said a massive framerate drop I meant it. It goes from ~300 fps to 0-5.
#818 [18:58] <Raslar21> hmmm well did you try freeing some space from your computer?
#819 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> What does the F3 debug screen pie chart show as happening when that framerate drop occurs?
#820 [18:59] <Cairbear> Raslar21, I have over 400 GB of spare HDD space and at any given time about 6 GB of free ram.
#821 [18:59] <Leokul> @ zkxs, I have a bunch for XBox Live (because NAT is a bitch with XBL), and also some for iTunes (for the Remote app for my iPhone connectivity)
#822 [18:59] <Cairbear> DiskDaemon, give me a minute and I'll grab a screencap.
#823 [18:59] <Leokul> I'll brb, gotta change my PC's IP to static
#824 [18:59] <Raslar21> hmm ok well umm hmm
#825 [19:02] <Raslar21> Cairbear when I said update i meant update to java 7 lol but um have you tried going down to Java 6 or is that where you are now?
#826 [19:02] <Cairbear> Raslar21, I'm at java 7 right now.
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#828 [19:02] <Cairbear> But the problem occured on java 6 as well
#829 [19:02] <Cairbear> After about update 1.1
#830 [19:02] <zkxs> lol Leokul-wtf
#831 [19:02] <Leokul-wtf> Alrighty, back on track
#832 [19:02] <Leokul-wtf> Alrighty, back on track
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#834 [19:03] <Leokul-wtf> Well stupid EsperNet was saying "Leokul" was already in use
#835 [19:03] <Leokul-wtf> lol
#836 [19:03] <zkxs> That is because you didn't close the connection, leokul is going to be a zombie until he times out
#837 [19:03] <Leokul-wtf> K so i'm back up, using *.22 static to my PC and the server is back up
#838 [19:03] <Leokul-wtf> LOL Oh look I just quit!
#839 [19:04] <Raslar21> lol
#840 [19:04] <Leokul-wtf> I haven't used IRC for like 5 years, I'm a little rusty still
#841 [19:04] <zkxs> Yeah, I'm still getting nothing
#842 [19:04] <Leokul-wtf> son of a biiiiitch
#843 [19:04] <zkxs> What are the numbers of the other ports you are forwarding?
#844 [19:04] <Leokul-wtf> Does it matter? They aren't the same as 25565
#845 [19:04] <zkxs> I want to see if they are up
#846 [19:04] <Leokul-wtf> Ahhhh good call
#847 [19:04] <Leokul-wtf> 88
#848 [19:05] <Leokul-wtf> 3074
#849 [19:05] <Leokul-wtf> 53
#850 [19:05] <Leokul-wtf> 5353
#851 [19:05] <Leokul-wtf> 3689
#852 [19:05] <Leokul-wtf> Totally exposing myself here so.....
#853 [19:05] <Leokul-wtf> lol
#854 [19:05] <zkxs> lol
#855 [19:05] <Raslar21> lol
#856 [19:05] <Leokul-wtf> I'm workin on the honour system here gents
#857 [19:06] <zkxs> I don't get a response from any of those ports
#858 [19:06] <Raslar21> Cairbear are you running anything besides minecraft right now?
#859 [19:06] <Cairbear> Alright so I grabbed a cap of all the f3 statistics. http://i.imgur.com/XoIXI.png
#860 [19:06] <Cairbear> Raslar21, xchat, friefox and ts3
#861 [19:06] <Leokul-wtf> Well shit, maybe my router's just called it quits.
#862 [19:06] <Cairbear> a couple other assorted prgrams
#863 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> What significant changes occur to the pie graph when the fps issue occurs?
#864 [19:06] <zkxs> Well, you have internet
#865 [19:07] <Cairbear> DiskDaemon, I'll restart it and grab one of regular circumstances
#866 [19:07] <Leokul-wtf> I meant the settings part
#867 [19:07] <Raslar21> k well close whatever your not using the most and see if that helps any?
#868 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> Cairbear: I don't want pictures
#869 [19:07] <Leokul-wtf> I was planning on getting a new one next Thursday on payday anyway
#870 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> I want your own interpretation of what you see happening live, when the problem occurs
#871 [19:08] <Leokul-wtf> Actually, sorry, the only two ports that should work are the last two - 5353 and 3689
#872 [19:08] <Leokul-wtf> 'Cause the others are for XBL on my XBox, which gets a different static IP
#873 [19:08] <Raslar21> <_< *kicks his new minecraft snapshot .jar* o_o
#874 [19:08] <zkxs> Could you double check your firewall?
#875 [19:08] <Leokul-wtf> Which one?
#876 [19:08] <zkxs> All of them?
#877 [19:09] <Leokul-wtf> As previously mentioned, I only have my router's firewall
#878 [19:09] <Leokul-wtf> Windows Firewall is off and always has been on my PC
#879 [19:09] <zkxs> Well, windows likes to do things without asking, and I'm afraid one of them may have turned itself back on
#880 [19:09] <Leokul-wtf> And I don't use AV programs that would be third-party firewalling
#881 [19:09] <Leokul-wtf> True
#882 [19:10] <Leokul-wtf> But it is off right now, just checked again
#883 [19:10] <zkxs> Can you connect to your server using 192.168.1.22?
#884 [19:10] <zkxs> Because if you can, then it isn't your router's fault
#885 [19:10] <Leokul-wtf> Yes I can
#886 [19:10] <Leokul-wtf> Using that IP, or "localhost" both work
#887 [19:11] <zkxs> Oh wait, I got that backwards
#888 [19:11] <Raslar21> wait if this is localhost does he need to port-forward?
#889 [19:11] <zkxs> shh, that doesn't even make sense
#890 [19:11] <Leokul-wtf> lol nope it doesn't
#891 [19:11] <Cairbear> DiskDaemon, The sound, update lights and unpecified drop to somewhere in the .1% range with Render and tick increasing by about 3%
#892 [19:12] <Raslar21> what doesn't make sense?
#893 [19:12] <Cairbear> correction. Tick decreasing by 1% and render increasing by about 3%
#894 [19:12] <Cairbear> This happens on all render distances
#895 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> This is when you're moving? If so, is it to an already existing section of the map, or one that you've already ben to before?
#896 [19:12] <zkxs> Leokul-wtf: Well, my bag of tricks is empty. Unless you want to let me connect via teamviewer and see if you missed something, I'm out of ideas. But none of your other servers seem to be working either...
#897 [19:13] <Cairbear> I've had it happen both when moving, or standing still looking around. Sometimes where I have been before but mostly a new section.
#898 [19:13] <Leokul-wtf> Raslar, if I'm running a server on my own PC, if I connect to "localhost" it just means I'm connecting to 127.0.0.1 (my own PC's internal IP)
#899 [19:13] <Cairbear> Generally it takes place while moving.
#900 [19:13] <Raslar21> ahh lol
#901 [19:13] <Raslar21> ahh lol
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#903 [19:13] <Leokul-wtf> So no matter what I'd be able to connect to localhost
#904 [19:14] <Leokul-wtf> Even if I'm not on the internet lol
#905 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> Okay, mostly with new sections there can be lag as it's generating new world content. With already existing areas that you've been to before, there can be some lag if tunnels underground for example have lots of mobs in them
#906 [19:14] <Raslar21> yeah i know that
#907 [19:14] <Leokul-wtf> @ zkxs, sure dude, have a peek. I'm only allowing this because you're using TeamViewer, and TV is the bomb.
#908 [19:14] <Cairbear> For reference I have a 560 Ti, Sandy Bridge i5 OC'd to 4.2 Ghz, as well as 8 GB DDR3 1600 ram.
#909 [19:14] <zkxs> pfft, lol
#910 [19:14] <zkxs> version 6 or 7?
#911 [19:15] <Leokul-wtf> 7
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#913 [19:15] <Leokul-wtf> I have to update it or else I can't connect using my iPhone
#914 [19:15] <Raslar21> umm yeah i can't help ya leokul lol sry cause i have the same prob with my girlfriend lol
#915 [19:15] <Leokul-wtf> np Raslar, thanks anyway
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#917 [19:15] <Raslar21> yw lol
#918 [19:15] <Cairbear> DiskDaemon, Why is this happening recently but never at any update since september when I got this computer?
#919 [19:16] <Raslar21> hmm what comp you gat?
#920 [19:16] <Raslar21> got*
#921 [19:16] <Leokul-wtf> Custom built myself about 2 years ago
#922 [19:16] <DiskDaemon> Because more recent versions of the game have doubled the world height, and changed the data-format of how the world is stored
#923 [19:16] <DiskDaemon> The changed were for greater capabilities, but they did end up slowing down access too
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#925 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> Anvil is the new format that minecrart maps now use, since 1.2 came out. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Anvil_file_format
#926 [19:18] <Cairbear> DiskDaemon, so there's nothing I can do?
#927 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> And with 1.3, there won't be a stand-alone single player version anymore. It will just be one version that's played either on a local server, or multiplayer with some other server
#928 [19:20] <DiskDaemon> People find that using a ram drive, or going to solid-state drives provides a marked difference in improvement
#929 [19:20] <Raslar21> yeah but getting to play with someone on single player is a @!#$%
#930 [19:20] <Raslar21> even when you have no internet lol xD
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#932 [19:24] <zkxs> ??< win/hosts
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#936 [19:38] <froglegstew> Can anyone assist me in setting up a minecraft server?
#937 [19:38] <froglegstew> Can anyone assist me in setting up a minecraft server?
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#940 [19:40] <mib_g946fo> my shoes are on the wrong feet, can anyone assist me
#941 [19:40] <mib_g946fo> my shoes are on the wrong feet, can anyone assist me
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#948 [20:02] <Leokul> alright
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#950 [20:03] <zkxs> Did anything change?
#951 [20:03] <Leokul> Don't know, just started the server up
#952 [20:04] <Leokul> was getting the BBQ ready lol
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#954 [20:04] <zkxs> yum. I still don't see it from here.
#955 [20:04] <zkxs> ;check Leokul
#956 [20:04] <Leokul> Port 25565 is closed on 50.70.53.89.
#957 [20:04] <Leokul> Fuck you, internets.
#958 [20:04] * AuBot kicked Leokul from #minecrafthelp (Reason: eokul :Please keep it civil.)
#959 [20:04] <zkxs> !check Leokul
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#961 [20:05] <Leokul> lol whoops
#962 [20:05] <zkxs> !check 50.70.53.89
#963 [20:05] <zkxs> Yeah, no luck
#964 [20:05] <zkxs> This *could* be your ISP being silly
#965 [20:05] <Leokul> Could be
#966 [20:05] <zkxs> Is your external address static or dynamic?
#967 [20:05] <Leokul> Dynamic
#968 [20:06] <Leokul> I don't pay for a static, too expensive here
#969 [20:06] <Leokul> However my ISP's DHCP hasn't changed my external for quite a while
#970 [20:07] <zkxs> ISPs typically don't want you to host servers if all you have is a dynamic IP, but usually they don't do anything to prevent it
#971 [20:07] <wgicos> So, I just picked up Minecraft today, downloaded the exe file and tried running it. As it downloads the jar files it freezes up every time I try. I have tried deleting the app data as it suggests in the forums and reinstalling, but the same thing happens every time. Even tried the Force Update button, but no dice. Anyone know what to do?
#972 [20:07] <Leokul> Especially with the small ISP it is here
#973 [20:07] <zkxs> Yeah. You could call them and ask, but I've got no idea where the wall is
#974 [20:07] <Leokul> @ wgicos: You're downloading directly from minecraft.net right?
#975 [20:07] <Leokul> That makes two of us zkxs
#976 [20:07] <wgicos> Yup
#977 [20:08] <wgicos> Right off the site. It won't even work in the browser...
#978 [20:08] <Leokul> Which browser, may I ask?
#979 [20:08] <wgicos> I'm trying in Firefox right now.
#980 [20:09] <Leokul> Have you attempted in IE? (assuming Win OS here)
#981 [20:10] <wgicos> Just tried in IE. Same problem.
#982 [20:11] <Leokul> Hmm
#983 [20:11] <Leokul> How far along does it get?
#984 [20:12] <Leokul> It's only a 270KB file, it should take no time
#985 [20:12] <Leokul> Well that's dumb
#986 [20:12] <wgicos> It varies from attempt to attempt. Somewhere on minecraft.jar from 5% to 54%
#987 [20:13] <Leokul> Wait... while Minecraft.exe is downloading, it freezes?
#988 [20:13] <Leokul> Or while running Minecraft.exe
#989 [20:14] <wgicos> While running Minecraft.exe. It can't seem to download the .jar files.
#990 [20:14] <Leokul> Ah, so it's not a problem downloading from the website
#991 [20:15] <Leokul> It's when you're running the .exe to get the initial files
#992 [20:15] <wgicos> No it's an update/install problem
#993 [20:15] <wgicos> Right
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#995 [20:16] <Leokul> Hmmm
#996 [20:17] <wgicos> The Forums have a couple of cases of this happening but the threads seem to have been closed before any answer was found...
#997 [20:17] <Raslar21> wgicos did you try in Chrome?
#998 [20:17] <wgicos> Just did. Same problem.
#999 [20:17] <Raslar21> hmmm
#1000 [20:18] <zkxs> ?? virus/avira
#1001 [20:18] <VoxelHead> virus/avira: To stop Avira from reporting Mincraft as a false-positive, please do the following:
#1002 [20:18] <VoxelHead> virus/avira: Open Avira, open the Extras menu, and click Configuration. Then, set the switch to 'Expert' and open the 'Internet Protection' sub-menu, and open 'Web Protection', and then 'Scan'. Click 'Exceptions', and at 'URLs Skipped by Web Protection', enter 'http://s3.amazonaws.com/*', and click Add, then Apply.
#1003 [20:18] <zkxs> Do you have Avira?
#1004 [20:18] <Raslar21> hmm did you wait 1 - 5 mins?
#1005 [20:20] <Raslar21> well after you bought the game that is?
#1006 [20:20] <wgicos> I use AVG for my virus. It doesn't seem to have a problem with minecraft. I have waited a while since buying to try starting it up. About 30 min...
#1007 [20:20] <Raslar21> hmm ok umm did you update java?
#1008 [20:21] <wgicos> Updated. After that didn't work, I even tried uninstalling java and reinstalling it. Same problem.
#1009 [20:22] <wgicos> If it's a problem with my internet provider, it only effects minecraft. Browsing and even Netflix have no problem.
#1010 [20:22] <Leokul> Have you tried taking a hammer to your tower?
#1011 [20:22] <Leokul> ;)
#1012 [20:22] <wgicos> That's next on my list....
#1013 [20:23] <Leokul> I feel you buddy.
#1014 [20:23] <Leokul> I've been trying to get my server to be available publicly running on my PC and no luck at all. Even zkxs was on my PC helping and both of us got nothin'
#1015 [20:23] <wgicos> Maybe it's just a mysterious internet burp. I'll try again in a few hours...
#1016 [20:23] <Leokul> I'm still scouring forums
#1017 [20:23] <Leokul> Dumb question but did you reboot at all during the Java install/reinstalls?
#1018 [20:24] <wgicos> I did try a full reboot as well. I'm stumped.
#1019 [20:25] <Leokul> Someone said that trying to run the .exe again while the other is frozen seemed to have worked
#1020 [20:26] <Leokul> Have you tried that
#1021 [20:26] <Leokul> ?
#1022 [20:26] <wgicos> I'll try that now...
#1023 [20:27] <Leokul> What is "*q" and "-q" ?
#1024 [20:27] <zkxs> quiet
#1025 [20:28] <zkxs> Voxelhead is a bot, and will mute people if it thinks they are spamming
#1026 [20:28] <Leokul> Ahhh, thanks
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#1028 [20:29] <wgicos> Nope. Well I'll resort to the Microsoft Tech support method. Turn everything off and walk away. Try again after getting food.
#1029 [20:29] <Leokul> Good call.
#1030 [20:29] <Leokul> Let the temper settle a little and have a cold one =)
#1031 [20:29] <Raslar21> hmm idk if he has tried uninstalling and re-installing MC or not but he might wanna try that too
#1032 [20:29] <Qilby> hi
#1033 [20:29] <Leokul> He's tried that already.
#1034 [20:29] <wgicos> Best of luck on the server, and thanks.
#1035 [20:29] <Raslar21> ahh
#1036 [20:30] <Qilby> whats wrong?
#1037 [20:45] <Leokul> test?
#1038 [20:50] <Raslar21> anyone sanna take a look at a mod in progress?
#1039 [20:50] <Raslar21> wanna*
#1040 [20:53] <zkxs> aka you want a test server?
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#1042 [21:00] <Tsukasie> Um, hello?
#1043 [21:06] <Raslar21> who wants a test server?
#1044 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> No, please don't advertise severs here
#1045 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> or even servers
#1046 [21:14] <Raslar21> zkxs did i am just asking bout who he meant lol
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#1051 [21:46] <Raslar21> does anyone know how to code?
#1052 [22:00] <zkxs> It depends on what you mean by 'code'. Coding drivers or terminal programs or mods are all completely different
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#1055 [22:25] <Raslar21> coding mods lol
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#1057 [22:25] <ejmiv89> hey!
#1058 [22:26] <ejmiv89> i got a question about vanilla minecraft server hosting, i opened my port (25565) tcp and udp but no one can join my external ip. only i can.
#1059 [22:26] <ejmiv89> let me know if ya can help!
#1060 [22:26] <ejmiv89> thanks
#1061 [22:27] <ejmiv89> ill be standing by~
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#1063 [22:32] <Visiiri> Looking to start a Minecraft server availalbe to myself and my friend who is connected to the same wireless.
#1064 [22:32] <Visiiri> It isn't working- Connection Refused: Connect
#1065 [22:32] <Visiiri> (My ports aren't forwarded- do they have to be?)
#1066 [22:33] <Visiiri> IIRC, they didn't way back when because I've done this before.
#1067 [22:35] <Visiiri> :<
#1068 [22:38] <puffrfish> you need to forward 25565 Visiiri
#1069 [22:38] <Visiiri> Okay, cool. For local connections too.
#1070 [22:39] <puffrfish> depends on the IP you give them
#1071 [22:39] <puffrfish> if you give them your local one then no
#1072 [22:39] <Visiiri> I tried 192.168.0.1 (my "Default Gateway") and 192...2 (my "Local Link")
#1073 [22:39] <Visiiri> Neither worked. I got the port forwarded, though, and I'll try that.
#1074 [22:40] <ejmiv89> has anyone found out whats wrong with my server?
#1075 [22:40] <ejmiv89> forwarded ports, but noone can join
#1076 [22:40] <ejmiv89> same thing as this guy
#1077 [22:40] <ejmiv89> connection refused
#1078 [22:43] <Visiiri> Got it working! Thanks, puffrfish!
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#1081 [22:51] <MalachiS> Hi, I need some help with minecraft
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#1083 [22:53] <mib_z76ftf> Hello, me and my girlfriend purchased the xbox 360 edition of minecraft. Her's keeps freezing every time she tries to use the crafting interface. She's uninstalled and redownloaded 3 times. What else can be done?
#1084 [22:54] <Hagoroth> made a username to make myself more identifiable
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#1087 [23:05] <Hagoroth> still here if anyone is available
#1088 [23:13] <Hagoroth> anyone available yet?
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#1090 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> I'll try to help
#1091 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Xbox_360_Edition_known_bugs#Crafting.2C_Inventory.2C_and_Interfaces
#1092 [23:20] <Hagoroth> yeah that didn't have any relevant information
#1093 [23:20] <Hagoroth> there was a somewhat similar bug about the furnace interface freezing but with no fix
#1094 [23:21] <Hagoroth> it would be nice if mojang had an actual customer support system even if it took a while for them to get back
#1095 [23:22] <Hagoroth> my girlfriend is also getting a bug where when she saves none of her progress is saved
#1096 [23:22] <Hagoroth> that ones on that list but doesn't seem to have any fixes
#1097 [23:23] <Hagoroth> anyways i'm guessing there isn't a way to fix it if it's not on that list but thanks anyways for trying
#1098 [23:27] <Hagoroth> she's getting pretty mad, pretty big waste of $20 when she's getting several bugs that make it so she can't even play and mojang has 0 support
#1099 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> yeah, that's bad - it's an indie developer though so rest assured that they're doing what they can about things
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#1103 [23:33] <Viking667> I've noticed something funny about the latest update (12w21b) too... renaming a saved level doesn't "stick".
#1104 [23:34] <Hagoroth> no yeah i totally understand it's a small company but i feel like when you cut out direct support it delays you knowing what issues with your game arise
#1105 [23:34] <Hagoroth> she also is having a slight bug where occassionally blocks won't place
#1106 [23:35] <Hagoroth> so she can't use crafting, is having trouble placing blocks, and her saves aren't working lol
#1107 [23:35] <Hagoroth> do you have any idea the trouble i went to in order to convince a girl to play minecraft!
#1108 [23:35] <Hagoroth> and you're ruining it notch! ruining everything!
#1109 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> Would be a valid complaint, if notch had any hand in the xbox development.
#1110 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Sadly, it was offloaded onto another company that's porting it to the xbox
#1111 [23:39] <Hagoroth> true
#1112 [23:40] <Hagoroth> overall it's not a bad port, i decided to get it for the xbox just purely for the reliability I have had no problems at all but my girlfriend is getting all sorts of bugs
#1113 [23:40] <Hagoroth> anyways thanks for the (attempted) help I guess we'll just have to wait till it gets fixed with updates
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#1116 [23:44] <mib_7mfu1x> hi
#1117 [23:46] <mib_7mfu1x> are servers down?