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#6 [00:14] <Guest_> I try to log into an Online Server in Tekkit and my logging in button freezes and I can't log in. Well after many tries sometimes it works, has anyone ever heard of this bug?
#7 [00:14] <Scott> I think there's an issue with Minecraft servers.
#8 [00:14] <Guest_> I see are you having this problem too?
#9 [00:16] <Lardman> The minecraft session servers are down
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#35 [04:27] <hatman> My tamed dogs are sitting and now I can't get them to stand on their feet to follow me
#36 [04:27] <hatman> I have 7 tammed dogs too
#37 [04:27] <dexray15> Hello I was hoping someone could help me with my minecraft server just since today I keep getting this error when I try and start my server and I don't know what to do anymore here is what it says on start up: http://pastebin.com/hzGzWzH0
#38 [04:31] <Calinou> hatman, try to dump water on them
#39 [04:33] <Calinou> [Server] INFO java.io.IOException: No space left on device
#40 [04:33] <Calinou> [Server] SEVERE Could not save bukkit.yml
#41 [04:33] <Calinou> sums it up, dexray15. ^^
#42 [04:37] <dexray15> What does that mean?
#43 [04:37] <Calinou> no space left on device, period.
#44 [04:38] <dexray15> but I'm using avante dedicated
#45 [04:38] <Calinou> what OS are you on?
#46 [04:38] <dexray15> os?
#47 [04:38] <Calinou> operating system
#48 [04:38] <dexray15> its not running on mine avante is hosting it
#49 [04:39] <dexray15> but i dont see why mine isnt working my friend uses avante and his is still up
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#53 [05:15] <hatman> ty the dissappeared before I could try it all 7 disapeared
#54 [05:16] <hatman> why did they disappear?
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#56 [05:28] <dudemanjam> can you help me
#57 [05:30] <dudemanjam> WHO WOOKIE
#58 [05:30] <dudemanjam> WHO WOOKIE
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#62 [05:37] <Epsilon232> So I need some help for my friend who has just bought Minecraft.
#63 [05:38] <Epsilon232> This is all I have been told by them: they try to generate a world and then it says something about 64 bit when they have 32 bit thats all they told me sorry for the lack of info, any ideas?
#64 [05:39] <SinZ> turn down the view distance in options -> video options
#65 [05:40] <Epsilon232> Ok I will tell them that Thanks.
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#67 [05:49] <gretchen> new snapshot http://assets.minecraft.net/12w22a/minecraft.jar http://assets.minecraft.net/12w22a/minecraft_server.jar
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#71 [06:05] <The_Ant_Reaper> Hello?
#72 [06:08] <The_Ant_Reaper> Where do I place the SMF forum listener?
#73 [06:09] <The_Ant_Reaper> .class file*
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#75 [06:21] <The_Ant_Reaper> Anyone?
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#81 [07:07] <Kakeru> Why do I keep getting end of stream when I join a server?
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#95 [09:57] <Halberd> Hey guys, I have a question, obviously.
#96 [09:58] <Teekeks> so
#97 [09:58] <Halberd> Can I share a minecraft account with a friend?
#98 [09:58] <Halberd> A premium account.
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#100 [09:58] <Teekeks> why not?
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#109 [10:30] <Olive> Downloaded game, bar fills and says done loading but game doesnt actually load...restarted computer same problem
#110 [10:31] <Teekeks> what are your computer-stats?
#111 [10:31] <Olive> alienware m17x with windows 7. do i need to be more detailed then that?
#112 [10:34] <Olive> nvidia geforce GTX 580m
#113 [10:35] <Teekeks> what is your Java-Version?
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#115 [10:36] <Olive> 1.7.0_04
#116 [10:36] <Teekeks> hmmm
#117 [10:38] <Teekeks> Olive: ger?
#118 [10:38] <Olive> ???
#119 [10:38] <Olive> ger?
#120 [10:39] <Teekeks> It means: do you speak german?
#121 [10:39] <Olive> nope
#122 [10:39] <Teekeks> because it is easyer to explain.
#123 [10:39] <Teekeks> ok
#124 [10:39] <Teekeks> so, above the "login"-Button is an Options-Button. Click this and then "Force Update". Then try again.
#125 [10:41] <Olive> works now
#126 [10:41] <Olive> Thank You?
#127 [10:41] <Teekeks> np
#128 [10:41] <Olive> Thank You!!!!
#129 [10:41] <Olive> no clue why i put a ? there
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#131 [10:41] <Teekeks> because of a mistake? :D
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#160 [12:04] <fcrasher> can someone help
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#162 [12:04] <fcrasher> i dont get premium
#163 [12:04] <fcrasher> i wait 3 days
#164 [12:05] <fcrasher> i was on the site were war written something like you going premium in a hour
#165 [12:05] <fcrasher> or in this hour
#166 [12:05] <fcrasher> i have the order number
#167 [12:05] <fcrasher> can someone help
#168 [12:06] <fcrasher> please
#169 [12:11] <fcrasher> can someone help i dont get premium but i have the order number
#170 [12:11] <fcrasher> spricht hier jemand deutsch
#171 [12:20] <fcrasher> can someone help me i dont get premium but i have the order code
#172 [12:21] <fcrasher> i was on a page there was written you`re account are premium in a hour
#173 [12:21] <fcrasher> i wait 3 days and my account isnt premium
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#176 [12:45] <Calinou> *_*
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#178 [12:50] <rymate1234> why are people so impatient
#179 [12:52] <Eddie> tight pants.
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#182 [12:57] <n0g4> i need help with my account
#183 [12:58] <n0g4> i cant get in my emmail where my password was sent
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#185 [13:16] <zkxs> n0g4: In that case, you are mostly screwed. The only thing left for you to try is emailing Mojang's support with proof of your purchase.
#186 [13:20] <n0g4> how could i do that ?
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#189 [13:25] <zkxs> n0g4: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#190 [13:26] <zkxs> n0g4: I would put an email address you actually have access to in the "Email Address" field, as that is how they are going to respond to you.
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#193 [13:28] <GRIMobile> Can someone PLEASE explain to me how to install Forge?
#194 [13:28] <GRIMobile> Every mod says it needs it but I cant find an install procedure anywhere
#195 [13:29] <Morrolan> Check its forum thread I'd say.
#196 [13:29] <Calinou> you need to install modloader first
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#198 [13:29] <GRIMobile> Ok I have modloader isntalled I think
#199 [13:29] <GRIMobile> I mean as far as I can tell
#200 [13:30] <Spaceman1011> I Installed Risugami's Mod Loader and my mine craft keeps crashing and its giving me an error screen I followed the directions I Deleted META INF but It still Crashes.
#201 [13:31] <Morrolan> Then the version of Modloader you installed might not be the correct one for your Minecraft version, Spaceman1011.
#202 [13:31] <Morrolan> Or a mod you've installed is clashing with Modloader.
#203 [13:31] <Morrolan> Either way, to get a fresh .jar, start the launcher -> options -> force update, then log in as usual.
#204 [13:31] <zkxs> GRIMobile: http://www.minecraftdl.com/minecraft-forge-api/
#205 [13:31] <Spaceman1011> It was version 1.2.5
#206 [13:34] <Spaceman1011> I haven't installed the mod yet its just the mod loader I have installed.
#207 [13:40] <Spaceman1011> I did force update and it gave me an error screen
#208 [13:41] <GRIMobile> Ok well I added everything and minecraft started with no crashes, but I have no idea if the mod im trying to run is even working...
#209 [13:41] <GRIMobile> lol
#210 [13:41] <GRIMobile> Time to look around
#211 [13:42] <zkxs> no crashes is typically a good thing
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#213 [13:47] <GRIMobile> Yeah it must not be working
#214 [13:47] <GRIMobile> Cause I just tried to craft the wrench and nothings happening
#215 [13:47] <madsens> Hi :) Me and some friends have some problems joining servers. Is there any problems currently, or is the problem in our end?
#216 [13:49] <GRIMobile> Oh well
#217 [13:49] <zkxs> !login
#218 [13:50] <zkxs> madsens: I'm going to go with it being on your end
#219 [13:52] <Spaceman1011> This is the first error screen it gave me-> Mods loaded: 1 ModLoader 1.2.5 Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 9f578458 -------- Generated 5/31/12 12:01 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows Vista (x86) version 6.0 Java: 1.6.0_31, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems
#220 [13:52] <madsens> zkxz: okay :(
#221 [13:52] <madsens> zkxs*
#222 [13:52] <zkxs> madsens: You could try joining s.nerd.nu to test
#223 [13:53] <madsens> i will. thx :D
#224 [13:53] <madsens> zkxs: i could login. thx for the tip :D
#225 [13:54] <zkxs> In that case, the problem is with the server you are trying to connect to
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#227 [13:54] <Calinou> Spaceman1011, http://pastebin.com < post it there and give us the link
#228 [13:54] <madsens> ok, thx :D
#229 [13:55] <zkxs> If it is a small server you or a friend is trying to get running, the problem could be port forwarding, firewalls, or dynamic IPs
#230 [13:55] <Calinou> zkxs, quit mentioning reddit survival as an example
#231 [13:55] <Calinou> :)
#232 [13:55] <Spaceman1011> Ok Sorry for pasting that in here I new to the forum :P
#233 [13:55] <zkxs> Calinou: Is there a new example we are using now?
#234 [13:55] <Calinou> meh, not really.
#235 [13:55] <Calinou> play.phonicuk.com < should work, usually empty, vanilla
#236 [13:55] <Morrolan> Most people use the server they play on themselves as an example. :P
#237 [13:56] <Calinou> and no lag 8)
#238 [13:56] <zkxs> I could start telling people to connect to 127.0.0.1. That is the server I play on.
#239 [13:56] <Calinou> not sure if the port is 25565
#240 [13:56] <Calinou> nope port 25567
#241 [13:56] <Morrolan> zkxs - Haha.
#242 [13:56] <Calinou> zkxs, yeah, nice admins and no lag
#243 [13:56] <Spaceman1011> Here is the Link http://pastebin.com/fT9p9z4f
#244 [13:56] <Morrolan> I once had a server ad for 127.0.0.1 in #smp ;)
#245 [13:56] <Calinou> once, I told people on a MC server, to 127.0.0.1
#246 [13:56] <GRIMobile> Isthere anyway to tell if a mod is actually running other than to try and craft something from it?
#247 [13:56] <Calinou> 2 guys actually tried to do it.
#248 [13:57] <Calinou> GRIMobile, modloader should leave logs in the console
#249 [13:57] <Calinou> non-modloader mods don't
#250 [13:57] <Morrolan> GRIMobile - Some mods print something on startup, some mods have logs, others print to the console.
#251 [13:57] <GRIMobile> How does one open the console?
#252 [13:57] <Morrolan> Start Minecraft through the console.
#253 [13:57] <Calinou> we're not in quake, so it's not shift+esc :P
#254 [13:57] <zkxs> By starting the game from the command prompt
#255 [13:57] <Calinou> what zkxs and Morrolan said
#256 [13:57] <zkxs> Beat me to it :P
#257 [13:57] <Morrolan> That is, grab the .jar launcher and start it using the command somewhere on Minecraf'ts download site.
#258 [13:57] <Calinou> a tad involved, especially if you're not a computer guy
#259 [13:58] <Calinou> do NOT download some .bat or .sh file from the web.
#260 [13:58] <Morrolan> the command located somewhere*
#261 [13:58] <Calinou> never do this
#262 [13:58] <zkxs> Just a tad though, you can do it
#263 [13:58] <GRIMobile> Man I have NO idea what you guys are saying
#264 [13:58] <GRIMobile> eff it
#265 [13:58] <Calinou> okay, noobed down version: download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar - place on desktop
#266 [13:58] <Calinou> shift+right click on desktop, "open command line"
#267 [13:59] <Calinou> type this: java -jar -Xms1G -Xmx1G minecraft.jar
#268 [14:00] <Spaceman1011> Okay I typed it
#269 [14:01] <GRIMobile> Ok that did that...
#270 [14:01] <Calinou> Spaceman1011, I wasn't talking to you
#271 [14:01] <Calinou> GRIMobile, should work unless you have some weird java path
#272 [14:01] <Spaceman1011> OHHHHHHH Okay My bad
#273 [14:01] <GRIMobile> No it worked
#274 [14:01] <GRIMobile> Minecraft opened up...
#275 [14:01] <Calinou> Spaceman1011, feel free to use it, if you want
#276 [14:01] <GRIMobile> But it doesnt say anything about mods
#277 [14:01] <Calinou> GRIMobile, yep this is normal. using commandline is useful for troubleshooting
#278 [14:01] <zkxs> /notice +#minecrafthelp your message
#279 [14:01] <Calinou> ikr... oh, so it shows the name of the guy who talked
#280 [14:02] <GRIMobile> How do I use this to tell if modloader and such is actually working?
#281 [14:02] <Spaceman1011> Calinou, okay
#282 [14:02] <GRIMobile> Im sorry guys im so new and sucky at this
#283 [14:02] <Calinou> GRIMobile, nah it's fine ;)
#284 [14:03] <Calinou> strange, though. any other lines in the console?
#285 [14:03] <Calinou> like "setting texture: xxxx"
#286 [14:03] <GRIMobile> C:\Users\Grim\Desktop>java -jar -Xms1G -Xmx1G minecraft.jar MCPatcherUtils initialized. Directory C:\Users\Grim\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft 27 achievements 182 recipes Setting user: grimobile, -2985919204360607169 LWJGL Version: 2.4.2 new SuperTessellator(2097152) WARNING: Found unknown Windows version: Windows 7 Attempting to use default windows plug-in. Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRaw
#287 [14:04] <Calinou> GRIMobile, next time, censor your session ID, the thing appearing after your username ;)
#288 [14:04] <GRIMobile> Oh good
#289 [14:04] <Calinou> don't worry I won't do anything bad to your account, but some malicious users there can
#290 [14:04] <GRIMobile> Now everyone is going to hack my account
#291 [14:04] <GRIMobile> Great
#292 [14:04] <zkxs> Err, it is only for that session
#293 [14:04] <Calinou> at worst, it'll be an one-time connection
#294 [14:05] <GRIMobile> Well I closed it anyway
#295 [14:05] <Calinou> this means they can connect as you and do anything with your account, but they can only connect once to a server.
#296 [14:05] <GRIMobile> I just want to get this http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/830138-125-explosives-v33200000-downloadssmp-for-123updated/#crafting
#297 [14:05] <GRIMobile> Working
#298 [14:06] <Calinou> "To install it, unzip and follow the README. If no mods folder exists, then create one, and put the .jar in it."
#299 [14:06] <GRIMobile> I did that
#300 [14:06] <Calinou> README files are opened with notepad btw
#301 [14:06] <GRIMobile> lol
#302 [14:06] <Calinou> if they have no extension
#303 [14:06] <GRIMobile> YEs I did everything it said, and minecraft loads fine...I just have no idea if its actually working
#304 [14:06] <GRIMobile> I tried to craft the wrench but that didnt work
#305 [14:07] <Shadow386> .g mcerror
#306 [14:07] <Shadow386> oh wait, wrong channel
#307 [14:07] <Shadow386> GRIMobile, google MCError and test to see if it loads the mod files.
#308 [14:07] <Shadow386> mod_ files*
#309 [14:07] <Calinou> tip: to get a clean minecraft.jar, log in, click "force update" in the launcher options
#310 [14:08] <Shadow386> Fancy tip: Do it while drinking a cup of tea
#311 [14:09] <GRIMobile> Ok MCerror seems to do the same thing as running from a command line dide but without all the nonsense.
#312 [14:10] <Shadow386> and it displays errors if you crash rather than minecraft exiting out.
#313 [14:10] <GRIMobile> I dont see anything about it loading mod files
#314 [14:10] <Calinou> calling debug lines "nonsense", wow great :P
#315 [14:10] <Shadow386> GRIMobile, where did you make the mods folder?
#316 [14:10] <GRIMobile> Calinou: I am refering to having to type in the command line prompt to actually start it
#317 [14:11] <GRIMobile> Appdata\Roaming\.minecraft\mods
#318 [14:11] <Shadow386> alrighty
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#320 [14:12] <TheSwordKid> Is anybody on?
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#322 [14:12] <TheSwordKid> I need some help with the email linked to my account
#323 [14:13] <GRIMobile> Ok well thanks for the help. Il just keep banging my head at it till it works
#324 [14:13] <Shadow386> For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#325 [14:13] <Shadow386> GRIMobile, screenshot of your mods folder?
#326 [14:13] <GRIMobile> Its just the Explosives+ jar file
#327 [14:15] <GRIMobile> My \bin folder has Minecraft.jar and minecraft - 1.2.5.jar
#328 [14:15] <GRIMobile> There is no META-INF in the minecraft.jar
#329 [14:15] <Shadow386> Why not use that auto installer that's right under the downloads button?
#330 [14:16] <Calinou> Shadow386, auto installers usually suck
#331 [14:16] <Calinou> either security concerns or they just don't work on some OSes
#332 [14:16] * Calinou points to linux & mac 8)
#332 [14:16] <Shadow386> its still worth a shot to see if it would work for this guy :P
#333 [14:16] <Shadow386> he's on Windows anyways lol
#334 [14:17] <GRIMobile> I assume I should be putting the stuff in the minecraft-1.2.5.jar and not the other?
#335 [14:17] <Calinou> nope
#336 [14:17] <Calinou> minecraft-1.2.5.jar is a backup from MCpatcher
#337 [14:17] <GRIMobile> Ahhh I see
#338 [14:17] <Calinou> used when you click "unpatch". maybe the mod is incompatible with mcpatcher
#339 [14:17] <Calinou> usually quite unlikely
#340 [14:17] <GRIMobile> MCpater deletes the META-INF as well correct?
#341 [14:18] <Calinou> yep
#342 [14:18] <GRIMobile> YAY! a crash
#343 [14:18] <GRIMobile> At least Im getting closer
#344 [14:19] <GRIMobile> Hey guess what. I thinkI got it
#345 [14:20] <GRIMobile> Oh...it crashed
#346 [14:20] <GRIMobile> So close
#347 [14:20] <GRIMobile> Its crashing on building terrain...
#348 [14:21] <Calinou> maybe install the mod without mcpatcher.
#349 [14:21] <Calinou> also, when you install modloader + mcpatcher, use mcpatcher's "mod installing" feature
#350 [14:21] <Calinou> to install modloader
#351 [14:27] <GRIMobile> java.lang.NullPointerException
#352 [14:27] <GRIMobile> at com.pclewis.mcpatcher.mod.Colorizer.colorizeBiome(Colorizer.java:130)
#353 [14:27] <GRIMobile> at gu.a(SourceFile:19)
#354 [14:27] <GRIMobile> at uf.c(BlockLeaves.java:49)
#355 [14:27] <GRIMobile> at vl.o(RenderBlocks.java:3180)
#356 [14:27] <GRIMobile> at vl.b(RenderBlocks.java:375)
#357 [14:27] <GRIMobile> at ct.a(WorldRenderer.java:211)
#358 [14:27] <GRIMobile> SoundSystem shutting down...
#359 [14:27] <GRIMobile> Author: Paul Lamb, www.paulscode.com
#360 [14:27] <GRIMobile> Author: Paul Lamb, www.paulscode.com
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#363 [14:28] <GRIMobile> Whoops
#364 [14:29] <GRIMobile> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qqGuTVVk
#365 [14:29] <GRIMobile> any ideas?
#366 [14:29] <Shadow386> disable some of the features while using mcpatcher
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#369 [14:42] <GRIMobile> Ok it seems like its the custom colors thats doing it.
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#378 [15:20] <mib_956gfs> Please im on a mac
#379 [15:20] <mib_956gfs> and
#380 [15:20] <mib_956gfs> my minecraft crashes completely
#381 [15:20] <mib_956gfs> when i press talk inv or esc
#382 [15:21] <mib_956gfs> please help
#383 [15:24] <Calinou> lol.
#384 [15:28] <xales> ._.
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#392 [15:54] <kingofpikachus> im have the pixel error
#393 [15:55] <R3QW> What kind?
#394 [15:55] <R3QW> What is happening?
#395 [15:56] <kingofpikachus> i seen the error eport in a sed
#396 [15:57] <kingofpikachus> Bad video card drivers!
#397 [15:58] <kingofpikachus> one more sec
#398 [15:58] <kingofpikachus> http://pastebin.com/6AmhimUg
#399 [16:01] <kingofpikachus> http://pastebin.com/TpKV7DdR
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#401 [16:02] <kingofpikachus> still no help?
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#403 [16:03] <honeydeww6999> hello guys
#404 [16:03] <kingofpikachus> i use to be able to play minecraft
#405 [16:03] <honeydeww6999> what happened
#406 [16:03] <honeydeww6999> you took an arrow to the knee?
#407 [16:03] <kingofpikachus> Bad video card
#408 [16:03] <kingofpikachus> again
#409 [16:04] <honeydeww6999> o
#410 [16:04] <honeydeww6999> well my account got migrated now im waiting for email from mojang
#411 [16:04] <kingofpikachus> http://pastebin.com/6AmhimUg <--- Error http://pastebin.com/TpKV7DdR <-----Dxdiag
#412 [16:05] <honeydeww6999> im waiting for email from mojang
#413 [16:05] <kingofpikachus> Aubot i dont know how to get someone to aswer me
#414 [16:05] <honeydeww6999> king whats wrong agin?
#415 [16:06] <kingofpikachus> BAd video card -_-
#416 [16:06] <xales> kingofpikachus: Uh, that computer is very, very old
#417 [16:06] <xales> It's very likely it will not be able to play Minecraft at all, but I am not the expert in such matters
#418 [16:06] <honeydeww6999> sorry i cabt help you with that
#419 [16:06] <kingofpikachus> 9 yrs, but it was able to play minecraft before
#420 [16:07] <honeydeww6999> xales what computer does he have
#421 [16:07] <honeydeww6999> i know alot about computers
#422 [16:07] <xales> honeydeww6999: A 9-year-old Gateway that has specs inferior to my cell phone. :p
#423 [16:07] <xales> kingofpikachus: Define "before"
#424 [16:08] <honeydeww6999> he cant even update his ddrive he has to get a new desktop or laptop to be able to play minecraft
#425 [16:08] <kingofpikachus> A month or 2 a go
#426 [16:08] <kingofpikachus> Heres what my dad has http://www.walmart.com/ip/eMachines-Black-EL1852G-52w-Desktop-PC-Bundle-with-Intel-Pentium-Dual-Core-E5800-Processor-20-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-7-H/16608491?adid=bzv_fb_revshr_001
#427 [16:09] <honeydeww6999> is that what youre on?
#428 [16:09] <kingofpikachus> No im on the 9yr
#429 [16:09] <kingofpikachus> he's on that one
#430 [16:09] <honeydeww6999> are you allowed on that one of youre dads
#431 [16:09] <honeydeww6999> o
#432 [16:09] <kingofpikachus> yes
#433 [16:10] <honeydeww6999> well when he gets off try getting on there ok
#434 [16:10] <xales> kingofpikachus: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-to-play-minecraft-
#435 [16:10] <kingofpikachus> but not right now
#436 [16:10] <honeydeww6999> well ok then
#437 [16:10] <honeydeww6999> brbima check mah email
#438 [16:10] <xales> ._.
#439 [16:12] <honeydeww6999> still have no email from mojang its been 2 days )_)
#440 [16:12] <Calinou> kingofpikachus, there seems to be a problem with your graphics card...?
#441 [16:12] <kingofpikachus> oh yeah my computer is half fried from a thunderstorm 3 months ago before i got it, could the damage have spread?
#442 [16:12] <kingofpikachus> what
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#444 [16:13] <Teekeks> what does the thunderstorm does toyour computer?
#445 [16:13] <xales> kingofpikachus: There is pretty much no way that computer could run Minecraft; even if it could, it would run like shit
#446 [16:14] <kingofpikachus> it was runing 3/4 the normal spped tho
#447 [16:14] <Teekeks> xales: I run Minecraft on a IBM Thinkpat T42
#448 [16:14] <Teekeks> :D
#449 [16:14] <xales> Teekeks: Let's pretend I don't know the specs of that off the top of my head. :P
#450 [16:14] <kingofpikachus> it fried the insides like chicken teekeks
#451 [16:15] <xales> kingofpikachus: You can't really expect Minecraft to work on a barely-functional computer that is almost ten years old
#452 [16:15] <Teekeks> Its singlecore 1,6Ghz, 1,5GB RAM 24MB graphical RAM
#453 [16:15] <kingofpikachus> What is HDD on a computer?
#454 [16:16] <Teekeks> this is a new one
#455 [16:16] <Calinou> hard disk drive
#456 [16:16] <kingofpikachus> oh
#457 [16:16] <Calinou> Teekeks, 24MB vram...?
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#459 [16:16] * Calinou doubts this computer will run Q3A @ max settings fluidly
#459 [16:17] <kingofpikachus> dads has everything good, but i cannt tell about the GC
#460 [16:17] <Wellbone> Why does MC lag when I put down tnt?
#461 [16:17] <Teekeks> Calinou nop, I mean the Raminside of th Graphic "Card" (chip)
#462 [16:17] <xales> Wellbone: There could be any number of reasons. :p
#463 [16:18] <xales> Teekeks: Yeah, that outspecs the Gateway by far
#464 [16:18] <kingofpikachus> the expiolsion cause sound,move 16 things, and drop thinfgs on the ground at the same time wellbone
#465 [16:18] <Wellbone> Ok.
#466 [16:18] <Calinou> Wellbone, TNT creates particles (= transparent textures, 2 triangles/1 quad for each texture), and calculates rays for explosions
#467 [16:18] <Teekeks> xales but its stil not much
#468 [16:18] <Calinou> explosions are not perfect spheres. some materials are more resistant to explosions than others
#469 [16:18] <Calinou> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Explosion
#470 [16:18] <xales> Teekeks: 3x as much RAM as the Gateway. :p
#471 [16:19] <xales> And a graphics card that supports OpenGL
#472 [16:19] <xales> ._.
#473 [16:19] <Wellbone> Why does my internet go out when I run MC?
#474 [16:19] <xales> Wellbone: It doesn't.
#475 [16:19] <Wellbone> It does.
#476 [16:19] <Calinou> check your firewall or your network/wireless adapter, try to use ethernet if you can
#477 [16:19] <Teekeks> Wellbone the Off-Switch is not the Minecraft-Kickstarter!
#478 [16:19] <Wellbone> I am using ethernet.
#479 [16:19] * Calinou has a graphics card which supports OpenGL 4.2 on his home computer, xales
#479 [16:19] <Calinou> :P
#480 [16:19] <Calinou> Teekeks, uh?
#481 [16:20] <Calinou> never seen opengl 4.x been used in any game I play though. usually FOSS games
#482 [16:20] <Wellbone> No, if I start MC the internet goes away until I restart the computer.
#483 [16:20] <Teekeks> Wellbone then you do someting strange wrong
#484 [16:20] <Teekeks> o0
#485 [16:20] <xales> Wellbone: You have an overeager firewall or some sort of malware, then. ._.
#486 [16:20] * Calinou has no idea why... check your ethernet cable? firewall?
#486 [16:21] <Wellbone> I cant turn off the firewall.
#487 [16:21] <xales> Yes you can.
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#489 [16:22] <Wellbone> No, it prompts me for a password.
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#491 [16:22] <kingofpikachus> Intel® GMA X4500HD GPU <------ will that run minecraft
#492 [16:22] <xales> kingofpikachus: Barely.
#493 [16:22] <Wellbone> I can forget about asking my sister for it.
#494 [16:22] <Calinou> nope, integrated GPUs = not fluid
#495 [16:22] <Calinou> tiny+fast on my netbook = 6FPS ;)
#496 [16:22] <xales> Wellbone: Then we can't really help you.
#497 [16:22] <Wellbone> fuck.
#498 [16:22] * AuBot kicked Wellbone from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ellbone :Please keep it civil.)
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#500 [16:23] <xales> Lazy people.
#501 [16:23] <xales> ._.
#502 [16:23] <Calinou> "I can forget about asking my sister for it." < next time... try not to have non-computer guys using a/your computer
#503 [16:23] <Wellbone> wow.
#504 [16:23] <Calinou> xales, lmao
#505 [16:23] <Wellbone> cant say bad words....
#506 [16:23] <Calinou> yep....
#507 [16:23] <Wellbone> That is just f*cked op.
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#509 [16:23] <Wellbone> *up
#510 [16:24] <xales> Wellbone: Deal with it.
#511 [16:24] <Wellbone> Fine then.
#512 [16:24] <Calinou> try to play minecraft in web browser or use .jar launcher
#513 [16:24] <Calinou> it has a small chance to work
#514 [16:24] * xales bbl
#514 [16:24] <Calinou> (.jar launcher = "Linux/Other" version)
#515 [16:25] <Calinou> it runs just fine on windows/mac acutally, the .exe version just always executes the game using javaw and not some other program
#516 [16:25] <Calinou> sometimes javaw, sometimes 7-zip or such, depending of the user's preference.
#517 [16:25] <Wellbone> Yay I fixed the internet thing.
#518 [16:25] <Wellbone> For now.
#519 [16:26] <Wellbone> Why do Ghasts spawn in the "real world?"
#520 [16:27] <Wellbone> I thought they spawn in Nether.
#521 [16:27] <clarjon1> They only spawn in the "real world" if someone forces them to, or the map derped.
#522 [16:27] <honeydeww6999> i haz windows :3
#523 [16:28] <Wellbone> Map derped I think.
#524 [16:28] <Wellbone> Oh well, time to shoot it.
#525 [16:34] <Wellbone> shit
#526 [16:34] <Wellbone> No kick.
#527 [16:34] <Wellbone> No kick.
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#529 [16:41] <Calinou> honeydeww6999, cool story
#530 [16:43] <honeydeww6999> back and thans
#531 [16:43] <honeydeww6999> thanks*
#532 [16:43] <Boreeas> I have windows, too. And doors. And a bunch of different rooms.
#533 [16:45] <Teekeks> Boreeas whoa! o0
#534 [16:47] <Teekeks> But,I think Java is just... wierd?!
#535 [16:47] <Boreeas> It isn't
#536 [16:48] * Boreeas switches to Java Fanboy mode
#536 [16:50] <Teekeks> http://pastebin.com/fCrTdcss
#537 [16:50] <Teekeks> it is
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#539 [16:51] <Boreeas> Oh, reflection
#540 [16:51] <Teekeks> jep
#541 [16:51] <guthriearmstrong> ?
#542 [16:51] <Teekeks> so, why I try to private a var when I can undo this every thime?
#543 [16:51] <Teekeks> *time
#544 [16:51] <guthriearmstrong> What's this room? Sorry, I'm a total IRC noob.
#545 [16:52] <Teekeks> Im a Fan of strict Languages
#546 [16:52] <Boreeas> You want reflection? I can give you reflection: http://pastebin.com/znamut2D
#547 [16:52] <Boreeas> You want reflection? I can give you reflection: http://pastebin.com/znamut2D
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#549 [16:52] <Boreeas> guthriearmstrong: Minecraft supp-
#550 [16:52] <Boreeas> Ok. Alright
#551 [16:52] <DiskDaemon> guthriearmstrong: This channel is for help with getting Minecaft up and running
#552 [16:52] <Teekeks> oh! reflection! :D
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#556 [16:54] <Boreeas> Teekeks: Anyways, reflection isn't really intended for that kind of usage (in any language)
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#559 [16:57] <panitaliemom> how do i make a multi player sever
#560 [16:57] <Boreeas> Download the server exe or jar. Run it
#561 [16:58] <Boreeas> If you run it from home, make sure your ports are forwarded
#562 [16:58] <panitaliemom> im confused whats a exe or jar
#563 [16:59] <Boreeas> An exe is an executable file for windows. The jar is the java program behind it
#564 [16:59] <Calinou> Teekeks, "java is like disallowing cars because people have accidents with them, forcing everyone to take the train instead" ~RaZgRiZ
#565 [16:59] <panitaliemom> k thanks
#566 [16:59] <Calinou> panitaliemom, running a server is quite involved actually; it is harder than it sounds
#567 [17:00] <Calinou> ...if you want to make it public, the late panitaliemom
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#571 [17:15] <honeydeww6999> hello
#572 [17:15] <honeydeww6999> any help me
#573 [17:15] <NinjaKirby> Fukken' owned, I'm dual-wielding Servers and a single client, flawless victory
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#575 [17:16] <honeydeww6999> ninja
#576 [17:16] <honeydeww6999> whats the client
#577 [17:16] <NinjaKirby> Erm, v1.2.5 Stand Alone Executable? ^^;;
#578 [17:16] <honeydeww6999> :O awesome
#579 [17:17] <NinjaKirby> Running WinXP in a VM, Firefox is hogging some as well
#580 [17:18] <honeydeww6999> is it like a hack client or just a client
#581 [17:18] <NinjaKirby> Just regular client... why? Odd question, lol
#582 [17:18] <honeydeww6999> wondering
#583 [17:20] <honeydeww6999> anyone know what dark messiah might and magis game is im havong trouble woth it
#584 [17:20] <honeydeww6999> magic*\
#585 [17:20] <honeydeww6999> magic*\
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#587 [17:20] <honeydeww6999> do you ninja
#588 [17:21] <NinjaKirby> Oh ah? It's a completely different game right?
#589 [17:21] <NinjaKirby> Not played it myself
#590 [17:22] <honeydeww6999> o im having trouble with it :( its is the best game in the world next to minecraft
#591 [17:23] * NinjaKirby resists the urge to debate that statement and accepts it as opinion
#591 [17:23] <honeydeww6999> ill send a link to a website to where you get a demo for it same keys as minecraft wsad to move and mouse 1 to attack
#592 [17:23] <NinjaKirby> lol, I'm okay, but thanks though :)
#593 [17:23] <honeydeww6999> http:/www.might and magic.com
#594 [17:23] <honeydeww6999> oops
#595 [17:24] <honeydeww6999> www.mightandmagic.com
#596 [17:24] <honeydeww6999> there
#597 [17:24] <honeydeww6999> inecraft is better though :3
#598 [17:25] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, Minecraft's replayability is ridiculous.
#599 [17:26] <honeydeww6999> you never played minecraft
#600 [17:26] <NinjaKirby> wat, I'm playing it right now :P
#601 [17:26] <honeydeww6999> http:/www. Dark messiahmight and magic.com
#602 [17:27] <honeydeww6999> type tyhat in and click on the 4th link
#603 [17:27] <NinjaKirby> O_O
#604 [17:27] <honeydeww6999> download it it takes a while but its worth it
#605 [17:29] <honeydeww6999> accualy lok up vids on youtube and to see what it looks like
#606 [17:31] <Boreeas> honeydeww6999: Please stop advertising
#607 [17:31] <NinjaKirby> I suspect I'll be disappointed like I was with viewing Diablo III (inb4 Flames)
#608 [17:31] <honeydeww6999> you wont
#609 [17:31] <DiskDaemon> honeydeww6999: Someone is likely to kick you out of here if you carry on like that
#610 [17:32] <Boreeas> <-
#611 [17:32] * NinjaKirby points at Boreeas
#611 [17:32] <DiskDaemon> I myself am not personally able to, but there ops here who will
#612 [17:32] <NinjaKirby> That's the Dude Guy!
#613 [17:32] <NinjaKirby> GET HIM!
#614 [17:32] <Boreeas> Actually, WugBot isn't here. Not sure if AuBot likes me
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#617 [17:51] <CrusBot> Beet. Beeboop.
#618 [17:51] <CrusBot> Downloading prerelease. Please hold.
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#620 [18:01] <CrusBot> Dafug
#621 [18:02] <CrusaderDeleters> 9+
#622 [18:02] <CrusaderDeleters> woops. :o Accedentially hit the 9, +, and enter key on the right side of my keyboard.
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#635 [18:59] <Alpheus125> Hello
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#637 [19:03] <mickster04> kia'ora
#638 [19:44] <CrusaderDeleters> So... I just recently finished my new computer today! :3
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#642 [19:51] <Guest_> anyone know what would cause this for the launcher? http://i.imgur.com/Z7xKJ.jpg
#643 [19:52] <Guest_> works fine via the browser
#644 [19:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Update gcard?
#645 [19:52] <Guest_> heh I figured that.. crappy thing is im running on an ati mobility x800 :?
#646 [19:52] <Guest_> old laptop for my kids
#647 [19:53] <Guest_> but whats odd (to me anyway) is in the browser it runs perfect
#648 [19:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Hrm.
#649 [19:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Google "Minecrafterrortest.bat" download.
#650 [19:56] <Guest_> well it got past the main launcher screen. was able to get into the meny, get a out of memory error now
#651 [19:57] <Guest_> ill see if I can find something on that probably a pretty common error
#652 [19:57] <Guest_> thanks
#653 [19:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Guest
#654 [19:57] <CrusaderDeleters> You still here?
#655 [19:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Guest_: Try to update your ram.
#656 [19:58] <NinjaKirby> Update RAM? :3
#657 [19:58] <NinjaKirby> I suppose you could add Heatsinks
#658 [19:59] <Guest_> oh wtf
#659 [19:59] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#660 [19:59] <Guest_> saying I have 1.5 gb of ram.. ok
#661 [19:59] <Guest_> that might be my issue
#662 [19:59] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.5 gigs isn't bad, actually.
#663 [19:59] <Guest_> havent used this lappy in a few years
#664 [19:59] <Guest_> yeah wondering if im having some other issue possibly
#665 [19:59] <CrusaderDeleters> it's a little on the low side, by minecraft should fare.
#666 [20:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Do you have a 64 bit machine?
#667 [20:00] <Guest_> no
#668 [20:00] <Guest_> well this one isnt I mean
#669 [20:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Seems odd that it may just do that on the launcher.
#670 [20:01] <CrusaderDeleters> try to reinstall java, that might be an issue. (I've never met with this situation before, to be honest.)
#671 [20:01] <Guest_> yeah when I run the minecrafterrortest.bat it seems to run ok, up until the out of memory error
#672 [20:01] <Guest_> yeah ill do that
#673 [20:01] <Guest_> thanks for the help
#674 [20:01] <CrusaderDeleters> so it runs out of memory?
#675 [20:02] <Guest_> yeah with minecrafterrortest
#676 [20:02] <Guest_> if I dont use that, I just get the garbled graphics
#677 [20:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Or throw away your commodor. :c
#678 [20:02] <CrusaderDeleters> c:(
#679 [20:02] <CrusaderDeleters> happyface.png.
#680 [20:02] <Guest_> haha actually I do have a commodore :P
#681 [20:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Funny. :3 I was referring it to notch's commodore.
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#683 [20:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh, blocks can still be pretty. http://imgur.com/mW6GT
#684 [20:17] <CrusaderDeleters> It's a stressful career at mojang.
#685 [20:18] <Lardman|afk> ?
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#688 [20:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Is the Intel Pentium D @ 3k hertz a bad chip?
#689 [20:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Seems like it is making minecraft lag like a @#&@#
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#691 [20:58] <sammaelt> nope, maybe its the graphic card or the ram
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#694 [21:05] <Chrisp> Hi people. :)
#695 [21:06] <sammaelt> hi
#696 [21:07] <Chrisp> I built a Mob Spawner - and it works :D but not very efficiently, It doesnt always spawn mobs and when it does it isnt to a high volume - Im playing on minecraft for Xbox 360, i was just wondering what other factors are there that i need to fix to increase the production of mobs.
#697 [21:07] <Chrisp> The spawner runs into a canal towards a lava trap and sends drops to a little iddy biddy collection room. But i barely get enough gunpowder to make one tnt per hour :(
#698 [21:09] <sammaelt> hmm, dont put light around it i dunno
#699 [21:09] <Chrisp> Theres no lights around or inside it. and it doesnt work at night.
#700 [21:09] <sammaelt> weird, whats the server diff level
#701 [21:09] <Chrisp> only seems to work in the daytime :(
#702 [21:09] <sammaelt> medium at least i think
#703 [21:09] <Chrisp> I have it on Hard.
#704 [21:10] <sammaelt> really? o_o
#705 [21:10] <Chrisp> Yeah :(
#706 [21:10] <sammaelt> you sure? it should spawn much more on hard
#707 [21:10] <Chrisp> and the darn creepers are always surrounding it and blowing it up lmao im sick of having to rebuild the darn thing.
#708 [21:10] <sammaelt> hm
#709 [21:10] <Chrisp> Yeah im 100%
#710 [21:10] <sammaelt> cannot be possible, on hard they spawn night and days, and a lo
#711 [21:10] <sammaelt> lot
#712 [21:10] <Chrisp> Hm...
#713 [21:11] <Chrisp> they are spawning outside the room
#714 [21:11] <sammaelt> dunno
#715 [21:11] <Chrisp> in the daytime.
#716 [21:12] <Chrisp> The spawner took me a fair while to build. Its like 23 off the floor.
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#718 [21:12] <Chrisp> i think its 23 blocks high and like 30 x 30 wide
#719 [21:12] <Chrisp> so its pretty huge.
#720 [21:12] <Product> Hey
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#722 [21:13] <Product> Hey.
#723 [21:13] <Product> Does almostroot still come to here ?
#724 [21:13] <Product> !seen almostroot
#725 [21:13] <GreyBot> I last saw almostroot (~almostroo@ec2-107-21-216-80.compute-1.amazonaws.com) 7wks 23hrs 28mins 25secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
#726 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Who knows.
#727 [21:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Noper.
#728 [21:14] <Product> !seen almostroot
#729 [21:14] <GreyBot> I last saw almostroot (~almostroo@ec2-107-21-216-80.compute-1.amazonaws.com) 7wks 23hrs 28mins 44secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in
#730 [21:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Product, it's 7 weeks and a day ago.
#731 [21:14] <Product> So he doesn't visit this chat anymore ;( ?
#732 [21:14] <Product> Yeah.
#733 [21:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Nein.
#734 [21:14] <Product> Dang.
#735 [21:14] <Product> He was a cool guy.
#736 [21:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Why?
#737 [21:14] <CrusaderDeleters> oh.
#738 [21:14] <CrusaderDeleters> He was.
#739 [21:14] <Product> A really cool guy was he almostroot.
#740 [21:14] <Product> We need help with a game.
#741 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> What game?
#742 [21:15] <Product> Amnesia.
#743 [21:15] <Product> The problem is related to the graphic cards.
#744 [21:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahhh.
#745 [21:15] <Product> We updated them, but it's something with OpenGL.
#746 [21:15] * oldtopman doesn't miss almostroot
#746 [21:15] <Product> Do you have any clue ? experience ?
#747 [21:15] <Product> hey oldtopman
#748 [21:16] <oldtopman> With what?
#749 [21:16] <Product> Why don't you miss him ?
#750 [21:16] <Product> Remember me ?
#751 [21:16] <Product> Help with graphic cards.
#752 [21:16] <oldtopman> He was an ass and argued with me over some stupid stuff.
#753 [21:16] <Product> They are up to date.
#754 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright. My minecraft is freezing.
#755 [21:16] <Product> Ohh lol.
#756 [21:16] <oldtopman> CrusaderDeleters: Set it to fast.
#757 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#758 [21:16] <CrusaderDeleters> I cannot even get past the title screen.
#759 [21:16] <Product> oldtopman, do you have have any clue how to fix a problem related to OpenGL ?
#760 [21:17] <CrusaderDeleters> It loads, goes to the menu, then freeze so much
#761 [21:17] <oldtopman> ??> CrusaderDeleters win/dxdiag/bat
#762 [21:17] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#763 [21:17] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#764 [21:17] <CrusaderDeleters> I already have all that stuff.
#765 [21:17] <oldtopman> Where's the paste?
#766 [21:17] <oldtopman> Product: Reinstall the graphic drivers?
#767 [21:18] <Product> We did that.
#768 [21:18] <CrusaderDeleters> I have an Intel Pentium D processor, with 3 gigs of remaining ram, and I also have a geforce 7800.
#769 [21:18] <CrusaderDeleters> I believe the problem is with the processor.
#770 [21:18] <Product> Amnesia needs OpenGL 2.1 or higher.
#771 [21:18] <Product> And the graphic card only takes 2.0
#772 [21:18] <Product> is there any way ?
#773 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> If the problem is with the processor then nothing less than a hardwre replacement will resove the problem.
#774 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> Give these guys a chance to demonstrate that it's not the processor
#775 [21:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I've already been here. I've already seen the 7800 in action, and I've had two gigs with my core 2 duo processor.
#776 [21:20] <Product> DiskDaemon I don't think it's the processor.
#777 [21:20] <Product> It's something related to OpenGL.
#778 [21:21] <Product> Does anybody know any way to fix that problem ?
#779 [21:21] <CrusaderDeleters> All worked perfectly, but then with this chip, minecraft started out nice, then a little bits of stopping here and there, then when I tried to open minecraft again, then it started not working.
#780 [21:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Product, he was referring to my error.
#781 [21:21] <Product> Oh okay.
#782 [21:22] <Product> !seen GreyVulpine
#783 [21:22] <GreyBot> I last saw GreyVulpine (~GreyVulpi@c-76-122-172-196.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 10hrs 2mins 36secs ago, joining #mcbots.
#784 [21:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Grey is online...
#785 [21:23] <Product> He's idling...
#786 [21:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh well. :)
#787 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#788 [21:25] <CrusaderDeleters> See? He's not idling./
#789 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> I am idling, until people beep me.
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#791 [21:26] <oldtopman> Product: We're #minecrafthelp, not #amnesiahelp
#792 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Is it bad if minecraft has an fps of around .1 at the menu screen? :L
#793 [21:27] <oldtopman> Besides, if you cannot meet the minimum requirements of OpenGL 2.1, you're likely to get OpenGL errors.
#794 [21:28] <CrusaderDeleters> What could be causing that?
#795 [21:30] <Product> lol yeah I know.
#796 [21:31] <Product> Btw. Oldtopman, I'am not new to this IRC Channel, I have more lines written than you: http://statistics.minecraftirc.net/minecrafthelp.html
#797 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Yus
#798 [21:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm on the list! :D
#799 [21:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Server there windows still update thanks computer should download could
#800 [21:36] <oldtopman> Product: Congratulations.
#801 [21:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I am above you too, old. :o
#802 [21:36] <Chrisp> boopity boop. Anyway guys im out
#803 [21:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyways, anyone able to help me out? I have less than 1 frame per second... On the menu screen! D:
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#805 [21:52] <oldtopman> "SimenOlai seemed to be hated too: 29 kicks were received."
#806 [21:52] <oldtopman> ^No kidding.
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#810 [22:11] <t2natorall> hello?
#811 [22:12] <t2natorall> anyone know anything about permissionsex?
#812 [22:13] <oldtopman> ??> t2natorall mods
#813 [22:13] <VoxelHead> t2natorall: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers
#814 [22:13] <VoxelHead> t2natorall: (mods) as it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation instructions.
#815 [22:13] <t2natorall> ok sorry for the trouble
#816 [22:14] <t2natorall> bukkit and multiverse
#817 [22:14] <t2natorall> oldtopman
#818 [22:14] <oldtopman> For bukkit, try #bukkit
#819 [22:14] <t2natorall> i did, no ones there
#820 [22:14] <t2natorall> and i tried #permissionsex
#821 [22:15] <t2natorall> and google
#822 [22:15] <t2natorall> sorry I'm not trying to be a pain, just desperate
#823 [22:15] <t2natorall> sorry I'm not trying to be a pain, just desperate
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#832 [23:34] <cO5Mo> hello
#833 [23:35] <cO5Mo> i was wondering, is it normal that there are straight lines between biomes during map generation?
#834 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> What you're seeing there quite likely are known of as chunks
#835 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunks
#836 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> Otherwise, could you provide us with a picture of what you're seeing there?
#837 [23:39] <cO5Mo> i am running a bukkit server, so i can actually show you the map :)
#838 [23:39] <cO5Mo> http://co5mo.selfhost.me/
#839 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> cO5Mo: wtf man - advertising?
#840 [23:39] <cO5Mo> excuse me?
#841 [23:39] <cO5Mo> you asked for a picture
#842 [23:40] <cO5Mo> nothing better than the map
#843 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> pardon, I thought it was a link through to a server
#844 [23:40] <cO5Mo> why would i advertise anything?
#845 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> okay yeah, those straight lines do seem to be biome rendering issues
#846 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> I jumped the gun having been bitten several other times by others. Please ignore my reaction from before
#847 [23:42] <cO5Mo> np man
#848 [23:42] <cO5Mo> so is there anything i can do about that?
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#850 [23:42] <cO5Mo> its not a huge problem, just a bit ugly :)
#851 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> A likely cause is that some of those chunks were rendered with a different version of Minecraft. Could that be the case?
#852 [23:43] <cO5Mo> i dont think so. been using this server for just a few weeks now with my friends
#853 [23:44] <Lardman|hw> What is the problem?
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#855 [23:44] <cO5Mo> first i used the vanilla minecraft server and now bukkit
#856 [23:45] <cO5Mo> Lardman|hw: having straight lines between chunks/biomes on my server
#857 [23:45] <Lardman|hw> Oh!
#858 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> It's likely then that bukkit has different terrain generation than the vanilla one does. That's what I would put down as causing those straight lines that you see there
#859 [23:46] <Lardman|hw> Holdon
#860 [23:46] <Lardman|hw> Do you have it on single player?
#861 [23:46] <cO5Mo> dont know
#862 [23:46] <Lardman|hw> Check
#863 [23:46] <cO5Mo> you mean just any single player world?
#864 [23:46] <Lardman|hw> Post a pic
#865 [23:46] <Lardman|hw> if you have one
#866 [23:47] <cO5Mo> http://co5mo.selfhost.me/ this is the dynmap
#867 [23:47] <Lardman|hw> oh so it is not a grahpics problem :(
#868 [23:47] <Lardman|hw> I would say it is a chunk generation error
#869 [23:48] <cO5Mo> that was my guess too. but the question now is, can it be helped? :D
#870 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> It's possible to use tools to regenerate already existing chunks, but you lose anything that was in that area
#871 [23:49] <cO5Mo> i see
#872 [23:49] <cO5Mo> what do you think is the cause?
#873 [23:50] <cO5Mo> i mean, it shouldnt have happened in the first place
#874 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> different terrain genreating engines
#875 [23:52] <cO5Mo> the thing is i put together a map of the world before i used bukkit, just by using a mapper and an imaging program and those straight lines were already there
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#877 [23:52] <DiskDaemon> Would we be able to duplicate the problem by using that mapper?
#878 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> If you use the mapper to generate some of the terrain, and you then use something else like bukkit and go to other areas that weren't generated by that first mapper, you will find that bukkit generates terrain differently than that firt mapper does
#879 [23:54] <cO5Mo> oh, nono the mapper, Minutor just shows a map of the world. it doesnt generate anything
#880 [23:55] <cO5Mo> by looking at the map i became aware of the chunk errors
#881 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> What we are seeing in the map is that one area is generated differently than other areas. The only "cause" for that tends to be different generating engines
#882 [23:56] <cO5Mo> ok. so basically it should not happen anymore from now on, because i will be using the same engine?
#883 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> It's possible to happen again when you upgrade the server to a new version too
#884 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> Mostly the terrain generation stays the same within the 1.1 or the 1.2 versions. There's a 1.3 that is soon going to be coming out though, for which pre-releases are coming out every week until it's release
#885 [23:58] <cO5Mo> i understand. well at least i know nothing is wrong with my setup
#886 [23:59] <cO5Mo> thanks guys