#1 [00:00] <nategold91> goodnight world
#2 [00:00] * Planck read the topic, and isn't running around freaking out yet.
#2 [00:00] <|Anthony|> i'm logged on to my server, and i ain't logging off
#3 [00:00] <Planck> Haha, who am I kidding. *Runs around freaking out*
#4 [00:00] <Cascadestar> Where can i read the topic?
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#6 [00:00] <Planck> /topic
#7 [00:01] <Planck> Most clients show it to you as soon as you join the channel
#8 [00:01] <Cascadestar> Ok thank you all ^_^
#9 [00:01] <Cascadestar> Night
#10 [00:01] <Twiggy_Lyn23> Hallo
#11 [00:02] <Thrae> Bigglezworth: Also I believe the chunk needs to be actually loaded for mobs to spawn on it, so that means a player needs to be in a slime-capable chunk. And then just explore or wait.
#12 [00:02] <arcana> Well, while you guys are waiting.. I can turn my server on offline mode.
#13 [00:02] <arcana> Yes/no?
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#15 [00:02] <superkabii> that'd only work if users have an offline mode client.
#16 [00:02] <arcana> just play offline
#17 [00:03] <superkabii> Then everyone would be "Player"? :P
#18 [00:03] <arcana> yea...wouldn't matter tho... It's going to be a superflat map with creative mode on
#19 [00:03] <LindsayLDK> Is there a problem with the login servers?
#20 [00:04] <ladyarecool> THERE OFFLINE LINDSAY
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#22 [00:04] <LindsayLDK> any idea for how long?
#23 [00:04] <Guest___> how long does it take for slimes to spawn?
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#25 [00:04] <|Anthony|> forever
#26 [00:04] <|Anthony|> and a day
#27 [00:04] <Guest___> I made a 16x16 room 4 high in a slime chunck..
#28 [00:04] <ladyarecool> juze on irc chat in another room said 37 hours:(
#29 [00:04] <arcana> ffx95.no-ip.biz offline server.. Creative mode super flat... Only for tonight will I leave it on
#30 [00:04] <arcana> no mods
#31 [00:04] <Juze> ladyarecool: Of course
#32 [00:04] <Juze> It's the most reliable estimate
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#34 [00:04] <Juze> I could have said 2 days or 1 week too :)
#35 [00:05] <ladyarecool> grr ithink jeb hates us so he put login servers offline
#36 [00:05] <toadfan321> servers are back
#37 [00:05] <|Anthony|> i need some suggestions for rules for my public no whitelist server
#38 [00:05] <Thrae> Guest___: Per the wiki link I posted earlier, you need to evacuate 22 chunks to get up to like a 90% chance of spawning slimes.
#39 [00:05] <ladyarecool> toad no?
#40 [00:05] <BlakenTheAngel> Toad is a bit mis informed... Lol
#41 [00:05] <toadfan321> srry
#42 [00:06] <ShaRose> Nope, confirmed not back.
#43 [00:06] <toadfan321> peeps logging onto the server im on who couldnt log in
#44 [00:06] <toadfan321> for excample the owner consoled saying he couldnt get on
#45 [00:06] <toadfan321> i informed ghim
#46 [00:06] <Zimsky> SOME people are getting through
#47 [00:06] <toadfan321> apparentl you can get on in the browser
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#49 [00:06] <BlakenTheAngel> from what i hear it depends on the area
#50 [00:06] <toadfan321> if u try a hsitload
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#52 [00:06] <BlakenTheAngel> my friend in cali can get on
#53 [00:06] <Twiggy_Lyn23> some can get in with the browser. but I had no luck. Boo.
#54 [00:07] <Guest___> I got on through the web client
#55 [00:07] <LindsayLDK> I can log in with the browser but so far not with the java client
#56 [00:07] * nategold91_ [nategold91_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#57 [00:07] <|Anthony|> i need some suggestions for rules for my public no whitelist server
#58 [00:07] <|Anthony|> any thoughts?
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#60 [00:08] <|Anthony|> dpm
#61 [00:08] <|Anthony|> er.. don't poke the golems
#62 [00:08] <nategold91_> Can someone kick nategold91
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#64 [00:08] <nategold91_> I forgot to turn my pc irc
#65 [00:09] <fuzzyfoxes> :( hey mollstam
#66 [00:09] <fuzzyfoxes> http://breadfish.de/
#67 [00:09] <ladyarecool> i think jeb hates us so he truned login servers off:(((
#68 [00:09] <Twiggy_Lyn23> lol
#69 [00:09] <Twiggy_Lyn23> doubt it
#70 [00:10] <fuzzyfoxes> prob
#71 [00:10] <mib> you guys should play final fantasy 9 while you're waiting.
#72 [00:10] <nategold91_> I think the us network crashed again
#73 [00:10] <fuzzyfoxes> i think it was junkboy or mollstam
#74 [00:10] <fuzzyfoxes> i think junkboy is a terrorist
#75 [00:10] <fuzzyfoxes> he never shows his face
#76 [00:10] <fuzzyfoxes> he never shows his face
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#80 [00:11] <DragonP> am I the Only one who can't seem to connect to minecraft.net
#81 [00:12] <Scorpini> malkariss; are you running a plugin such as NoScript?
#82 [00:12] <DragonP> i don't beleve so
#83 [00:12] <Malkariss333> Nope.
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#85 [00:12] <nategold91_> Is minecraft still down
#86 [00:12] <Scorpini> browser?
#87 [00:12] <ladyarecool> i wish LOGIN SERVERS WERE ON:(((
#88 [00:12] <Malkariss333> GC
#89 [00:13] <fuzzyfoxes> guys tahg from direwolf20s channel said they should be up soon he works for mojang
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#91 [00:13] <Scorpini> so nothing that would block scripts or objects?
#92 [00:13] * mib_jgsxtq [mib_jgsxtq@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#93 [00:13] <Scorpini> like ghostery
#94 [00:13] <Malkariss333> Well, let me look.
#95 [00:13] <toadfan321> lemme check tweeter
#96 [00:14] <Malkariss333> I am pretty sure nothing, but ima see
#97 [00:14] <BioZombie> ffx95.no-ip.biz offline server/ cow village
#98 [00:14] <ShaRose> fuzzyfoxes I don't see him saying anything, unless he said it on the private teamspeak.
#99 [00:14] <Malkariss333> Yea nope.
#100 [00:14] <Scorpini> alright.
#101 [00:14] <Scorpini> what version of java did you say you installed?
#102 [00:14] <DragonP> lol its amazing how much direwolf gets around im sure almost the whole minecraft comunity has seen atleast 10 of his videos
#103 [00:14] <Malkariss333> V7 Update 4. Newest one.
#104 [00:15] <Juze> [07:11] <Juze> Malkariss333: 32bit browser Java 6
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#106 [00:15] <fuzzyfoxes> sha your arent on #Direwolf20
#107 [00:15] <ShaRose> I'm voiced?
#108 [00:15] <Mekixx> does anyone know when logon server will be back up?
#109 [00:15] <fuzzyfoxes> nopre
#110 [00:15] <Scorpini> use /topic
#111 [00:15] <Scorpini> and look at the first thing it says
#112 [00:16] <Mekixx> i saw
#113 [00:16] <Mekixx> i was wondering when it will be back up
#114 [00:16] <Mekixx> read my question
#115 [00:16] <Malkariss333> Next year.
#116 [00:16] <Mekixx> v funny
#117 [00:16] <Malkariss333> I'm training for comedy, thanks.
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#119 [00:16] <toadfan321> jeb has been silent
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#121 [00:16] <toadfan321> beebop hasnt though
#122 [00:17] <toadfan321> not about this though
#123 [00:17] <ladyarecool> jeb isnt even in chat
#124 [00:17] <ShaRose> jeb has been asleep in all likelyhood.
#125 [00:17] <Malkariss333> Ah well, thanks Scorpini. I'll just play in offline mode *Shrug*
#126 [00:17] <Dan> is the minecraft.net login system down?
#127 [00:17] <Mekixx> dan
#128 [00:17] <Scorpini> yeah, sorry.
#129 [00:17] <Mekixx> read topic
#130 [00:17] <Scorpini> try reinstalling.
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#132 [00:17] <spaghetti> is there anyway to buy minecraft using phone credit?
#133 [00:17] <ferminter> hi
#134 [00:17] <Dan> Mekixx, i didnt see the update
#135 [00:18] <ferminter> No
#136 [00:18] <spaghetti> dam
#137 [00:18] <Mekixx> phone credit? LOL
#138 [00:18] <spaghetti> yesh :D
#139 [00:18] <Mekixx> why would you try to buy minecraft with phone credit?
#140 [00:18] <Juze> ^
#141 [00:18] <Juze> Use Paypal
#142 [00:19] <Mekixx> or a credit card...
#143 [00:19] <spaghetti> i dont have a credit card....
#144 [00:19] <Mekixx> how do u not have a credit card
#145 [00:19] <spaghetti> ._.
#146 [00:19] <Dan> spaghetti, how old are you?
#147 [00:19] <Juze> Then get one.
#148 [00:19] <spaghetti> 15
#149 [00:19] <Mekixx> then ask ur parents to buy it
#150 [00:20] <Mekixx> don't just try and sneak around them with "phone credit"
#151 [00:20] <Dan> spaghetti, ask your parents to get you the game cause you can not have your cell phone provider buy the game and charge it to your account
#152 [00:20] <spaghetti> k
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#154 [00:21] <ferminter> When will the minecraft server be up?
#155 [00:21] <Dan> i guess you should ask how old he is first
#156 [00:21] <Mekixx> yeah
#157 [00:21] <Dan> ferminter, just wait
#158 [00:21] <Mekixx> soon I'm guessing
#159 [00:21] <Dan> well this will force me to fix up my server
#160 [00:21] <ferminter> @Dan i've been waiting all day
#161 [00:21] <squiggy> gosh im getting real mad, i havent been able to connect to minecraft.net all day >:(
#162 [00:22] <Dan> ive been on i just restarted my computer
#163 [00:22] <RShash99> test...
#164 [00:22] <toadfan321> alld ay!
#165 [00:22] <toadfan321> thats crap
#166 [00:23] <toadfan321> its been down for like an hour or so
#167 [00:23] <squiggy> idk why tho
#168 [00:23] <squiggy> i tryed restarting my computer but it didnt work
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#170 [00:23] <squiggy> and it wouldnt let me force update
#171 [00:23] <Mekixx> i have been able to connect throughtout most of the day
#172 [00:23] <Dan> it hasnt been down all day
#173 [00:24] <Mekixx> it was just 5mins ago i couldn't connect
#174 [00:24] <squiggy> idk if its my internet provider or what
#175 [00:24] <Dan> that is not most of the day Mekixx
#176 [00:24] <Dan> squiggy, read the topic
#177 [00:24] <ladyarecool> wat topic dan
#178 [00:24] <Mekixx> yeah dan
#179 [00:24] <Mekixx> read what i said again
#180 [00:24] <Mekixx> lol
#181 [00:24] <Mekixx> u misread it
#182 [00:24] <Dan> guys just type /topic
#183 [00:24] <Coll> is there any word on the auth server from mojang
#184 [00:25] <Mekixx> nope
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#186 [00:25] <Mekixx> they need to fix this crap tho
#187 [00:25] <RShash99> hey jamy
#188 [00:25] <Dan> they are Mekixx
#189 [00:25] <Thrae> This is an unofficial help channel. We hear from Mojang same time everyone else does.
#190 [00:25] <Mekixx> or the same time we can log in lol
#191 [00:26] <Coll> seems kind of stupid though usually when something goes down as bad as the auth server you'd think the company running it would mention something
#192 [00:26] <Jamy> Anyone have an offline server?
#193 [00:27] <Dan> everyone does
#194 [00:27] <Coll> but from my experiance mojang almost never says a word about it in the numerous times it has happened
#195 [00:27] <Dan> well what do you want them to do? tell the world that its down or fix it?
#196 [00:27] <Jamy> A multiplayer server that multiple people can play On
#197 [00:27] <Coll> I dont see how they cant do both
#198 [00:28] <Mekixx> for some reason i can't talk in the main #minecraft chat
#199 [00:28] <Thrae> ?? irc/register
#200 [00:28] <Dan> they are a small game dev so they dont have that many hands to do it
#201 [00:28] <Thrae> ?? register
#202 [00:28] <Coll> but it takes like 3 minutes to sya "Auth server down. Working on it."
#203 [00:28] <Mekixx> lol small gave dev with 5mil sales
#204 [00:28] <Coll> and there done
#205 [00:28] <Thrae> Mekixx: /msg nickserv help register
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#207 [00:28] <Mekixx> i already registered thrae
#208 [00:29] <Mekixx> its just being stupid
#209 [00:29] <Thrae> Try leaving the channel and joining again.
#210 [00:29] <Mekixx> kk
#211 [00:29] <Dan> how about this, quit complaining on a un-official minecraft support channel and just wait
#212 [00:30] <Dan> i have other projects to work on while its down
#213 [00:30] <Mekixx> I'm not complaining about anything..
#214 [00:30] <ferminter> Who here lives in America
#215 [00:30] <toadfan321> i cant get my server to work
#216 [00:30] <Dan> i do
#217 [00:30] <toadfan321> everyhting is set up correctly
#218 [00:30] <toadfan321> localhost works
#219 [00:30] <toadfan321> my ext ip wont though
#220 [00:30] <Dan> toadfan321, the auth sever is down so you cant use it right now
#221 [00:30] <jjj> does anyone know when mc will be back up?
#222 [00:31] <toadfan321> no it wasnt working before then too
#223 [00:31] <Dan> no jjj
#224 [00:31] <Mekixx> jjj no, we dont.
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#226 [00:31] <jjj> damn
#227 [00:31] <toadfan321> eric
#228 [00:31] <Dan> toadfan321, where did you get it from?
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#230 [00:31] <toadfan321> get vat from
#231 [00:31] <Dan> the server jar
#232 [00:31] <toadfan321> mc.net
#233 [00:31] <Mekixx> mc.net or minecraft.net
#234 [00:31] <Dan> Windows, Linux or Mac OS X
#235 [00:32] <toadfan321> wimndows
#236 [00:32] <Dan> not my area
#237 [00:32] <Mekixx> or does mc.net now send to minecraft.net
#238 [00:32] <toadfan321> no
#239 [00:32] <toadfan321> i just shortend
#240 [00:32] <Dan> Mekixx, no mc.net is a different company
#241 [00:32] <Mekixx> kk
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#243 [00:32] <Mekixx> i was confused
#244 [00:32] <toadfan321> like the thing is it used to work
#245 [00:32] <beckalz> Is minecraft down? i can't login
#246 [00:33] <Dan> beckalz, read the topic
#247 [00:33] <Mekixx> read /topic
#248 [00:33] <beckalz> Oh i c
#249 [00:33] <ferminter> jjj
#250 [00:33] <beckalz> thanks
#251 [00:33] <ferminter> look in pm
#252 [00:33] <toadfan321> then for some reason it would work iof i forwarded to the port 25565
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#254 [00:33] <toadfan321> so i changed the port forwarded to
#255 [00:34] <toadfan321> it worked but still not with tthe ext ip
#256 [00:34] <SinZ> !login
#257 [00:34] <toadfan321> wat all can aubot do
#258 [00:34] <Dan> toadfan321, what is the ip address your trying to connect to?
#259 [00:34] <toadfan321> for my server?
#260 [00:34] <toadfan321> 98.198.135.251
#261 [00:34] <toadfan321> the port is 25547
#262 [00:34] <Dan> try adding :25565 when the auth server is back up
#263 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> !check 98.198.135.251:25547
#264 [00:35] <toadfan321> its down right nowe
#265 [00:35] <mib_w62jqz> hi
#266 [00:35] <toadfan321> hey grey is back
#267 [00:35] <Dan> boot it up toadfan321
#268 [00:35] <toadfan321> hai grey
#269 [00:35] * GreyVulpine waves.
#269 [00:35] <toadfan321> how u do dat
#270 [00:35] <ferminter> Gery
#271 [00:35] <toadfan321> with the *
#272 [00:35] <ferminter> Grey
#273 [00:35] <ferminter> Are you admin?
#274 [00:35] <toadfan321> i forgot
#275 [00:35] <toadfan321> yes he is
#276 [00:35] <GreyVulpine> Of this channel, yes.
#277 [00:36] <Thrae> I don't think AuBot will say the entire server down if the server is up, but the minecraft auth server is down.
#278 [00:36] <ferminter> Do you know Jeb?
#279 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> No, I do not.
#280 [00:36] <ferminter> :(
#281 [00:36] <ferminter> Auth server is down
#282 [00:36] <ShaRose> I've talked to him a few times.
#283 [00:36] <Thrae> ferminter: This is an unofficial help channel.
#284 [00:36] <GreyVulpine> As we're all fans of the game here, the help channel here is run by the community
#285 [00:36] <toadfan321> !check 98.198.135.251:25547
#286 [00:36] <toadfan321> see
#287 [00:36] <toadfan321> and its running
#288 [00:36] <toadfan321> with offline mode too so no auth server
#289 [00:36] <Dan> toadfan321, is that your overall DSL/Cable internet ip address?
#290 [00:36] <Thrae> !check matts-hosting.com:25565
#291 [00:37] <Thrae> AuBot seems to be working fine, it can connect to my private server.
#292 [00:37] <Dan> well i know my server is down while i work on it
#293 [00:37] <toadfan321> its my ext ip from ipchicken and whatismyip
#294 [00:38] <toadfan321> localhost:25547 works fine
#295 [00:38] <SinZ> Thrae: thats because AuBot doesn't need to actually join, it just sends a query packet and server responds
#296 [00:38] <Dan> toadfan321, that is your reason, your ISP is denying you to host your own server so you can not use it on your computer, get a VPS for your server
#297 [00:39] <Thrae> toadfan321: Use this online utility to verify the port is closed -- https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
#298 [00:39] <Thrae> SinZ: One of the bots here had the ability to actually try and connect...not sure if it was AuBot or another one.
#299 [00:39] <Dan> Thrae, oh i know it is
#300 [00:39] <Mekixx> how do u do aubot
#301 [00:40] <Dan> toadfan321, your ISP is not going to let you host from your house so you need to get a VPS
#302 [00:40] <Mekixx> guys how do u use aubot
#303 [00:40] <toadfan321> it used to work
#304 [00:40] <toadfan321> why would they suddently deny
#305 [00:40] <Dan> abuse
#306 [00:40] <Dan> fireall
#307 [00:41] <toadfan321> ?
#308 [00:41] <Dan> they firewalled your port number
#309 [00:41] <toadfan321> why
#310 [00:41] <toadfan321> as in
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#312 [00:41] <toadfan321> like all my ports
#313 [00:41] <Dan> what is your ISP Provider?
#314 [00:42] <toadfan321> or my specific port for my computer
#315 [00:42] <toadfan321> not the one i forwarded
#316 [00:42] <Dan> toadfan321, what is your ISP Provider
#317 [00:42] <toadfan321> its not isp provider its just isp
#318 [00:42] <toadfan321> comcast
#319 [00:42] <Mekixx> guys how do u do aubot?
#320 [00:42] <toadfan321> ur sayinf internet service provider provider
#321 [00:43] <Dan> yea comcast does that they dont want you to host your own server unless you buy business class internet
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#323 [00:43] <Mekixx> comcast = assholes lol
#324 [00:43] <toadfan321> it used to work though weve always had comcast
#325 [00:43] <Dan> Mekixx, lang
#326 [00:43] <toadfan321> no shit i have their tcv at my moms
#327 [00:43] <Mekixx> sorry
#328 [00:43] <toadfan321> barely stays up for 2 months
#329 [00:43] <mib_iawrth> Mekixx i have Comcast and i can host a server
#330 [00:43] <Omega_Guardian> sounds like most big ISP'. EULA forbids running any sort of server unless you buy probably way-expensive business class
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#332 [00:44] <Dan> they want their money
#333 [00:44] <toadfan321> kinda like att and spam calls
#334 [00:44] <toadfan321> i asked em to block a number
#335 [00:44] <toadfan321> they said
#336 [00:44] <toadfan321> no u get smart limits so u can block call u no stay eat 4 hour
#337 [00:44] <toadfan321> every other company does it free
#338 [00:45] <Omega_Guardian> and then some companies would offer spammers a way to get around any call blockers for extra $$$
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#340 [00:45] <toadfan321> tbut
#341 [00:45] <jjj> ferminter
#342 [00:45] <toadfan321> as i said and mekixx said
#343 [00:45] <toadfan321> i could run a server from this network
#344 [00:46] <Mekixx> what did i say?
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#346 [00:46] <toadfan321> u said u can run a server on comcast
#347 [00:46] <Dan> anybody can run a server on their network, it depends on the ISP if they can allow outside connections to your server
#348 [00:47] <toadfan321> as in i ran a teamspeak a mumble and a vent
#349 [00:47] <toadfan321> and a minecrafta server
#350 [00:47] <toadfan321> all public
#351 [00:47] <toadfan321> people joined too
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#353 [00:47] <Dan> !check mc.ssfdre38.com:25565
#354 [00:47] <Dan> what
#355 [00:48] <Dan> i just booted up my server
#356 [00:48] <Mekixx> !check 108.60.148.22:25565
#357 [00:48] <Mekixx> thats my server
#358 [00:48] <toadfan321> dan
#359 [00:48] <toadfan321> https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
#360 [00:48] <toadfan321> how do i check a port with that
#361 [00:49] <Dan> !check 96.127.188.38:25565
#362 [00:49] <Dan> how in the hell is it a local address
#363 [00:49] <toadfan321> use the ext ip it gave u brah
#364 [00:49] <Dan> i just did
#365 [00:49] <Dan> toadfan321, click the button
#366 [00:49] <toadfan321> the proceeed button
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#368 [00:49] <Dan> yes
#369 [00:50] <toadfan321> what do i click in the menu
#370 [00:50] <Dan> all service ports
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#372 [00:50] <Dan> !check mc.ssfdre38.com:25565
#373 [00:51] <Dan> i will punch you AuBot
#374 [00:51] <Mekixx> who else thinks the bukkitdev makes stuff too hard to find?
#375 [00:51] <ladyarecool> i wish i had my own server lol i dont like hamchi
#376 [00:51] <Dan> i just go to bukkit plugins on bukkit
#377 [00:52] <toadfan321> ya that one wont scan my port
#378 [00:52] <ladyarecool> how do i portforward?
#379 [00:52] <Mekixx> !check 108.60.148.22:25565
#380 [00:52] <toadfan321> also
#381 [00:52] <toadfan321> u can ping my ip
#382 [00:53] <toadfan321> and get a response
#383 [00:53] <Mekixx> I'm unleashing Spout onto my server. anything i should know b4 doing this?
#384 [00:53] <Dan> you can ping any ip address and get a response
#385 [00:53] <ladyarecool> can anyonehelp me how do i portforward"
#386 [00:53] <that-one-guy> toad: whats your ip
#387 [00:54] <that-one-guy> change settings in your router
#388 [00:54] <Dan> !check mc.ssfdre38.com
#389 [00:54] <Mekixx> dan lolz
#390 [00:54] <Dan> i know im ssfdre38 but come on
#391 [00:54] <toadfan321> !check 68.126.182.12
#392 [00:54] <ladyarecool> aubot wats meh external
#393 [00:54] <toadfan321> lolololol
#394 [00:54] <toadfan321> thats ur ext dan
#395 [00:54] <toadfan321> it says that
#396 [00:54] <toadfan321> to me at least
#397 [00:54] <Dan> no that is not where the server is at
#398 [00:55] <Mekixx> !check mc.ssfdre38.com
#399 [00:55] <Dan> the ip address of my server is 96.127.188.38 or mc.ssfdre38.com
#400 [00:55] <Dan> what the hell
#401 [00:55] <Mekixx> !check 96.127.188.38
#402 [00:55] <toadfan321> whast the port u forwarded to
#403 [00:55] <Dan> 25565
#404 [00:55] <ladyarecool> how i portforward:((
#405 [00:55] <Mekixx> u sure u didn't ahh i was about to say that
#406 [00:55] <Mekixx> lol
#407 [00:55] <toadfan321> !check 96.127.188.38
#408 [00:55] <Dan> let me check my DNS server
#409 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> The 25565 port should be forwarded from your external IP to an internal IP
#410 [00:56] <Mekixx> !check 96.127.188.38:25565
#411 [00:56] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: go into your router and change the settings
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#413 [00:56] <ladyarecool> wat setttings
#414 [00:56] <toadfan321> !CHECK mc.ssfdre38.com:25565
#415 [00:56] <DiskDaemon> What sort of router do you have?
#416 [00:56] <DiskDaemon> Wer can get instructions for you
#417 [00:56] <Mekixx> dan i put ur server IP with 25565 its notworkin
#418 [00:56] <toadfan321> !check mc.ssfdre38.com
#419 [00:56] <toadfan321> !check mc.ssfdre38.com:25565
#420 [00:56] <Dan> yea my server is reading that the DNS is set up for mc.ssfdre38.com with all ports forwarded to 96.127.188.38
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#422 [00:57] <Renaissance-AFK> hi
#423 [00:57] <toadfan321> !check mc.ssfdre38.com:
#424 [00:57] <Renaissance-AFK> um, server offline?
#425 [00:57] <Dan> and my client is saying that its online but whitelisted
#426 [00:57] <toadfan321> its not leting me put the port
#427 [00:57] <toadfan321> it keeps dubling
#428 [00:57] <ladyarecool> what settings in my router
#429 [00:57] <toadfan321> dan
#430 [00:57] <Dan> !check mc.ssfdre38.com
#431 [00:58] <Dan> yes toadfan321
#432 [00:58] <toadfan321> the port check for the firs thousand
#433 [00:58] <toadfan321> ports
#434 [00:58] <toadfan321> didnt reach mine
#435 [00:58] <toadfan321> but it did say they were all in stealth
#436 [00:58] <Dan> !check mc.ssfdre38.com
#437 [00:58] <Dan> !check mc.ssfdre38.com:25565
#438 [00:58] <toadfan321> meaning they were blocked by my isp
#439 [00:58] <Dan> someone connected to my server
#440 [00:58] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: the settings are usually under NAT
#441 [00:58] <toadfan321> apparently
#442 [00:58] <Dan> !check mc.ssfdre38.com:
#443 [00:59] <Dan> who owns AuBot
#444 [00:59] <Renaissance-AFK> Why can I not log in?!
#445 [00:59] <toadfan321> but that doesnt mean all the ports are blocked
#446 [00:59] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: What type of router do you have
#447 [00:59] <Dan> Renaissance-AFK, read the topic
#448 [00:59] <Renaissance> Me?
#449 [00:59] <Dan> yes
#450 [00:59] <ladyarecool> netgear
#451 [00:59] <ladyarecool> i belive
#452 [00:59] <Dan> toadfan321, check that port then
#453 [00:59] <toadfan321> how
#454 [01:00] <ladyarecool> oh
#455 [01:00] <ladyarecool> netgear model?
#456 [01:00] <ladyarecool> router model**
#457 [01:00] <ladyarecool> ??
#458 [01:00] <ladyarecool> ?
#459 [01:00] <that-one-guy> go to 192.168.0.1 in your web browser
#460 [01:00] <Dan> toadfan321, what port are you using?
#461 [01:00] <toadfan321> 25547
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#463 [01:00] <Dan> https://www.grc.com/x/portprobe=25547
#464 [01:01] <ladyarecool> no work:(
#465 [01:01] <toadfan321> fuck
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#468 [01:01] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: did you forward your ports?
#469 [01:01] <ladyarecool> idk how to port forward
#470 [01:01] <ladyarecool> :/
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#472 [01:02] <toadfan321> ..
#473 [01:02] <toadfan321> heh
#474 [01:02] <that-one-guy> what is your ip
#475 [01:02] <ladyarecool> 24.22.117.34
#476 [01:02] <toadfan321> dan
#477 [01:02] <ladyarecool> why
#478 [01:02] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: i mean internal ip
#479 [01:02] <Dan> yea toadfan321
#480 [01:02] <toadfan321> it said it was stealth
#481 [01:02] <ladyarecool> howi find it
#482 [01:02] <toadfan321> which according to that
#483 [01:02] <toadfan321> means my isp blocked it
#484 [01:02] <Sov> Hey there, my MC client "cannot connect to mincraft.net" ... Whenever someone is ready can I get help? ty :)
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#486 [01:02] <Renaissance> how long have the servers been down?
#487 [01:02] <Dan> Sov, read the topic
#488 [01:02] <toadfan321> sov /topic
#489 [01:02] <Dan> toadfan321, yup
#490 [01:02] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: open cmd and type in ipconfig
#491 [01:03] <ladyarecool> ok
#492 [01:03] <toadfan321> why would they just decide to block me
#493 [01:03] <Sov> Yeah, I'm stupid. Thanks guys.
#494 [01:03] <Orchid`> So,is thereanyonewith knowledge about how longittakes serves tocomeback up?
#495 [01:03] <Dan> Orchid`, we dont know
#496 [01:03] <Renaissance> English?
#497 [01:03] <toadfan321> lol
#498 [01:03] <rori> depends on how long the piece of string is
#499 [01:03] <ladyarecool> then?
#500 [01:03] <Orchid`> Sorry, ti is english. most of it anyhow. my spacebar is breaking.
#501 [01:03] <Renaissance> ok
#502 [01:03] <rori> divide that number by the number of spanners in a sidchrome toolkit.
#503 [01:03] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: it should have ip address or something
#504 [01:03] <Dan> i hate when people ask that question of when how long will it take or when it will be up, it will be up when its fixed period. NO ETA when its up
#505 [01:04] <toadfan321> dan why would the suddently block it
#506 [01:04] <Orchid`> BUT, is there anyone who knows how long it SHOULD take for the servers to come back up? I figre it shouldn't be more than an hour- but hey, I guess no one is near the servers physically to check it out.
#507 [01:04] <Renaissance> i don't ask that, i ask how long it has been down, sir
#508 [01:04] <rori> there is a good chance enough people in here are trying every few minutes so staying here you'll probably find out soon enough.
#509 [01:04] <Dan> toadfan321, money they wait you to purchase the business class internet
#510 [01:04] <toadfan321> and when i dont
#511 [01:04] <toadfan321> they block it
#512 [01:04] <Orchid`> Dan, You have an idea of what's wrong? Have you ever worked with computers? PAID for something that's not working? No? then stfu please.
#513 [01:04] <ladyarecool> wat would say for ip
#514 [01:05] <toadfan321> im using mr googlesearch for justice
#515 [01:05] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: 192.168.x.x, 10.x.x.x or 172.x.x.x
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#517 [01:05] <Dan> Orchid`, i work on server all day long and i have 6 personal servers that i deal with myself as well as 3 business servers so i do know how long it takes and what needs to happen so you shut up right now
#518 [01:05] <toadfan321> one thing i hate about smart phones
#519 [01:05] <toadfan321> no speed dial
#520 [01:05] <Matt_> Hello
#521 [01:05] <Matt_> I need help
#522 [01:05] <Dan> Matt_, read the topic
#523 [01:06] <Matt_> How can I register?
#524 [01:06] <toadfan321> oh
#525 [01:06] <toadfan321> we need to stop assuming
#526 [01:06] <Dan> Matt_, the auth server is down right n ow
#527 [01:06] <Matt_> no
#528 [01:06] <Matt_> I mean register on IRC
#529 [01:06] <Matt_> lol
#530 [01:06] <rori> ive just set up a server, and I believe I can access it externally, but getting an error bad login, which I'm guessing you would expect as I'm playing 'offline' since the login servers are down. there is no way to get it to not check if im logged in, just to see if its working is there? (ie, wait it out and test when the login servers come back up)
#531 [01:06] <Dan> Matt_, use /ns hel register
#532 [01:06] <Orchid`> Dan, do you work with minecraft? because your attitude is enough forme to getmy money back and quit this game.
#533 [01:06] <Orchid`> I find someone being disrespectfulis bullshit.
#534 [01:07] <toadfan321> rori i didnt log off so im still on th onliine f=version of mc wats the ip ill check
#535 [01:07] <Renaissance> Orchid shut the fuck up
#536 [01:07] * AuBot kicked Renaissance from #minecrafthelp (Reason: enaissance :Please keep it civil.)
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#538 [01:07] <Renaissance> lol
#539 [01:07] <Dan> no i dont i a user but i deal with support for a lot of other areas such as web hosting and i deal with downtime a lot. it will be up when they find the problem and fix it. there is never an ETA
#540 [01:07] <Orchid`> So, do youphysically work with servers?
#541 [01:07] <Dan> yes
#542 [01:08] <toadfan321> rori
#543 [01:08] <Dan> i even self host one of my own
#544 [01:08] <ladyarecool> tht one guy im pming u?
#545 [01:08] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: go to 192.168.1.1
#546 [01:08] <ladyarecool> ok then?
#547 [01:08] <Mekixx> Orchid'
#548 [01:08] <Mekixx> why do u want a refund?
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#550 [01:09] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: find a setting that says NAT or Port forwarding
#551 [01:09] <Matt_> Do you guys know how long the Logon Auth servers will be down?
#552 [01:09] <ladyarecool> port forwarding/porttriggering?
#553 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Matt_ - No, we don't
#554 [01:09] <ladyarecool> im in there
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#556 [01:09] <Orchid`> IF dan was with minecraft, i'd get my money back, between the login servers being down all day ( last time they were at a deadmau5 concert?LOL fail). but if dan worked with these people, I wouldn't fund them, or people like them.
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#558 [01:09] <Dan> Orchid`, how old are you?
#559 [01:10] <Matt_> is anyone here Mojang?
#560 [01:10] <toadfan321> rori its working :D
#561 [01:10] <Renaissance> 12
#562 [01:10] <Renaissance> lol
#563 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Matt_ - Nope
#564 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> We're all community-run volunteers here
#565 [01:10] <that-one-guy> ladyarecool: http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101145.asp
#566 [01:10] <Orchid`> though if anyone can edit the topic, you might want to make it all bright and shiny to catch attention - in the areaof saying you knownothing about the servers
#567 [01:10] <Dan> Matt_, this is the un-official support channel
#568 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Orchid` - Nobody reads the topic
#569 [01:10] <Matt_> Shoot. Mojang should have SOME sort of customer support
#570 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> We've learned this time and again
#571 [01:10] <Renaissance> they do
#572 [01:10] <Renaissance> the forums
#573 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> No, they don't
#574 [01:10] <Orchid`> GreyVulpine: earlier people were directed tot he topic. and I read a bright topic. not one that blends in
#575 [01:10] <Dan> Matt_, they have e-mail support but they have a lot to go though
#576 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> The forums aren't manned by Mojang
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#578 [01:10] <Renaissance> =\
#579 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> Again, it's community run
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#582 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> As Dan mentioned, Mojang has a support ticket system, which you can request through help.mojang.com
#583 [01:11] <Dan> Orchid`, just a question, how many servers do you own?
#584 [01:11] <GreyVulpine> That's their only way of official support.
#585 [01:12] <jp56> anyone know why it wont let me login? it says failed to connect to minecraft.net. i gotta get on my server but when i play in browser it continuously pauses on me. any ideas?
#586 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Login server's down
#587 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> As you can see from the topic
#588 [01:12] <Dan> jp56, type /topic and read the first few words
#589 [01:12] <jp56> Ah. that explains it. thank you.
#590 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Also, nobody reads the topic, so *shrug*
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#592 [01:13] <jp56> *Face Palm*
#593 [01:13] <jp56> *Face Palm*
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#595 [01:14] <Orchid`> Dan'sjust an asshole.Istrongly suggest you replace him
#596 [01:14] <GreyVulpine> As I said, everybody here is..
#597 [01:14] * GreyVulpine pffts
#597 [01:14] * GreyVulpine pffts
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#598 [01:15] <geneSW> I'm sure this has been asked about 1 billion times already, but how long has the login server been down for?
#599 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Better part of a day
#600 [01:15] <Dan> i just said i hate when people ask about ETA and that there will never be one
#601 [01:15] <geneSW> Glad I didn't ask about an ETA then Dan.
#602 [01:15] <geneSW> Thanks for the answer Grey
#603 [01:15] * GreyVulpine nods
#603 [01:15] <Sov> I'm glad I logged in this morning then, but disappoint that the servers are down.
#604 [01:15] <Dan> oh orchid` did i just said that and he went all off
#605 [01:17] <Mekixx> ugh i just added a load of new plugins to may server and i can't test em… :(
#606 [01:18] <Dan> even carl hasnt posted a new tweet on his twitter cause he is working on the login so i guess everybody is working on it hard
#607 [01:18] <rori> ok. so Orchid has spoken, it's time to get rid of Dan. Now accepting submissions for his replacement, also sarcasm.
#608 [01:19] <Dan> i will like to toss my hat in
#609 [01:19] <Dan> lol
#610 [01:19] <rori> congratulations Dan. you are dans replacement. thank you for the submissions. position has been filled.
#611 [01:20] <Mekixx> lolz
#612 [01:20] <beckalz> troll face.
#613 [01:21] <Mekixx> :trollface:
#614 [01:21] <Mekixx> dangit
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#616 [01:21] <Mekixx> that emotocon sometimes works
#617 [01:21] <beckalz> ░░░░░░░░░░░░▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
#618 [01:21] <beckalz> ░░░░░█░░░░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▀▀▄
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#621 [01:21] <beckalz> ░▄▀▒▄▄▄▒░█▀▀▀▀▄▄█░░░██▄▄█░░░█
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#624 [01:21] <Mekixx> its not finshed
#625 [01:22] <beckalz> i know i got done for spam..
#626 [01:22] <Mekixx> thats like half a trollface
#627 [01:22] <Mekixx> oh
#628 [01:22] <beckalz> they didn't let it all send
#629 [01:22] <Mekixx> ok imma get some sleep.
#630 [01:22] <Mekixx> hopefully auth will work tommro lol
#631 [01:22] <Mekixx> cya
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#633 [01:24] <stevesmate> Minecraft is Down?
#634 [01:24] <Dan> just the auth server
#635 [01:24] <stevesmate> oh
#636 [01:24] <rori> topic says yes
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#638 [01:25] <Vichama> and the topic answered my question
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#640 [01:25] <Vichama> ..... now what the heck am i suppose to do? be productive?
#641 [01:25] <Cascadestar> Take it Servers are still down?
#642 [01:26] <Vichama> yea :(
#643 [01:26] <Cascadestar> Shoot....
#644 [01:26] <Cascadestar> >.>
#645 [01:26] <Cascadestar> This sucks man...
#646 [01:26] <Vichama> i know! i just build an awesome machine in tekkit and now i cant check on it
#647 [01:26] <Cascadestar> Okwy. Well thanks. Bye all... which is really like two... XD
#648 [01:26] <Guest___> how long does it take for slimes to spawn?
#649 [01:26] <Vichama> build = built
#650 [01:26] <Cascadestar> tekkit?
#651 [01:27] <Vichama> 5 seconds
#652 [01:27] <Vichama> yea tekkit is an awesome collection of mods for mc
#653 [01:27] <Cascadestar> *nods* Will look it up
#654 [01:27] <Vichama> slimes spawn ALL the time for me. i hate it
#655 [01:28] <Sov> Well, the servers have 8 minutes until I go do something else. Probably my Modern History assignment.
#656 [01:28] <Vichama> it comes with its own loader so you dont have to install the mods http://www.technicpack.net/
#657 [01:28] <Vichama> the multiplayer version that is included in that is called tekkit
#658 [01:29] <Guest___> I cleared a 16x16 chunk at bedrock and the chunk is supposed to spawn slimes..and it did spawn one slime..like instantly..but none since..
#659 [01:29] <Vichama> dont do it sov. its a trick to make us productive
#660 [01:29] <Vichama> 16 high as well?
#661 [01:30] <Vichama> i dig 9x9x7 and they spawn like crazy
#662 [01:30] <Guest___> no..the room is 16x16x4 high
#663 [01:30] <Vichama> make the room higher i think they might be 3 or 4 blocks high
#664 [01:31] <Vichama> the big ones anyways
#665 [01:31] <Sov> I don't know Vichama, it IS due tomorrow...
#666 [01:31] <Guest___> do I have to be far away to make them spawn?
#667 [01:31] <Vichama> how many pages does it have to be?
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#669 [01:31] <Vichama> i think you have to be 15 blocks away
#670 [01:31] <Vichama> or more
#671 [01:31] <Vichama> not real sure on that
#672 [01:32] <Vichama> maybe im thinking about monster spawners
#673 [01:32] <Vichama> i know that without spanwers you need to be a fair distance away
#674 [01:32] <Sov> 2000 words minimum on Leni Riefenstahl, the famous Nazi Propaganda Movie Director/Actress
#675 [01:33] <Vichama> i would start by making the height at least 5 tall
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#677 [01:33] <Guest___> I'm making it 8 high..that should be fine eh?
#678 [01:34] <Vichama> since i know nothing about miss rief...snnnsjus.... leni i say start 2 days ago
#679 [01:34] <Hawk> damn
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#681 [01:34] <Hawk> stupid login servers being down -3-
#682 [01:34] <Sov> Hawk read the topic, good. And yeah I should have started a couple days ago
#683 [01:34] <Keeroe> So a quick question..is anyone else having issues logging in..??
#684 [01:34] <Sov> Read the topic
#685 [01:34] <Sov> Keeroe
#686 [01:34] <Vichama> sure, but you can make it 7 high from the ground without having to make a step block. thats why my structures are 7 high. im lazy
#687 [01:34] <Keeroe> I see thanks..
#688 [01:34] <Vichama> yes keeroe
#689 [01:35] <Vichama> what is mcbans?
#690 [01:36] <Keeroe> Well, there goes the whole rest of my evening...thanks so much guys..
#691 [01:36] <Sov> I'm guessing MCBans are Login bans that Mojang issue.
#692 [01:36] <Vichama> hmm
#693 [01:37] <Vichama> we didnt do anything keeroe
#694 [01:37] <Sov> Not allowing players to play online, perhaps. I don't know, it's just a guess.
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#696 [01:37] <Vichama> my poor server is sitting there all alone
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#698 [01:38] <Hawk> I just came here to read the topic to see if the server was down :3
#699 [01:38] <Vichama> it asks "why wont anyone play with me? did i do something wrong?"
#700 [01:38] <Dan> shut it down for now so you can reserve your resources
#701 [01:38] <Hawk> lol
#702 [01:38] <Vichama> nah. i have chunkloaders so it runs my machines while im gone
#703 [01:39] <Keeroe> Oh I am sorry Vichama, it was not implied that you guys did anything..I was just stating a simple fact for myself..
#704 [01:39] <Hawk> well, see ya guys maybe
#705 [01:39] <Vichama> np, i knew what you meant. i was just messing around
#706 [01:39] <Keeroe> Alright then
#707 [01:39] <Hawk> I'll come back in an hour probably to check the status
#708 [01:40] <Sov> omg i logged in
#709 [01:40] <Sov> loljks :)
#710 [01:40] <Dan> Vichama, i just run my server in the background
#711 [01:40] <Vichama> really?!?
#712 [01:40] <Sov> No, sorry. I had to do it :3
#713 [01:40] <Dan> yea
#714 [01:40] <Vichama> i hate you so much
#715 [01:40] <Dan> why
#716 [01:41] <Vichama> sov is a lier
#717 [01:41] <Sov> I know I'm sorry D:
#718 [01:41] <Dan> well im about to set it up as a start up process
#719 [01:41] <Vichama> wait thats not how you spell that
#720 [01:41] <Sov> btw liar**
#721 [01:42] <Vichama> wtf i cant remember how... ty
#722 [01:42] <Vichama> liar!
#723 [01:42] <Sov> D:
#724 [01:42] <Sov> fuck, your "real name" made me trip balls for a sec vichama
#725 [01:42] * AuBot kicked Sov from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ov :Please keep it civil.)
#726 [01:42] <Dan> what its been a plan of mine
#727 [01:43] <Vichama> they could at least give us an ETA on anything they are working on
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#730 [01:43] <Vichama> my real name?
#731 [01:43] <Sov> ... i got kicked, didn't i?
#732 [01:43] <Sov> new now know how
#733 [01:43] <Ammmp> Anybody having problems logging into minecraft?
#734 [01:43] <Vichama> yea, you said a naughty word
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#736 [01:43] <Vichama> read the topic. and yes
#737 [01:43] <Sov> Ammmp, read the topic
#738 [01:44] <Vichama> what is my real name sov?
#739 [01:44] <Ammmp> Kk thanks.
#740 [01:44] <Dan> Vichama, its really hard to do an ETA when you dont know what caused it
#741 [01:44] <Vichama> i didnt know they didnt know what caused it
#742 [01:44] <Vichama> are you saying you know
#743 [01:44] <Sov> someone in #minecraftforums is saying it should be around 25-30 minutes
#744 [01:44] <Vichama> see sov is on it
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#746 [01:45] <Dan> #minecraft and #minecrafthelp are un-official channels
#747 [01:45] <Sov> I know. They're basing it off "Notch time", his timezone and twitter posts.
#748 [01:46] <Dan> he hasnt posted anything for 8 hrs
#749 [01:47] <Sov> They mean, posts prior to those ones.
#750 [01:47] <Sov> They're assuming he's asleep after his deadmau5 concert last night, so they're basing the servers coming back up on Notch's twitter posts and averaged it out to 25-30 minutes time is when he'll wake up
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#753 [01:49] <Vichama> so notch keeps the login server in his room?
#754 [01:49] <Dan> i still say people need to stop asking about ETAs
#755 [01:49] <vader> help
#756 [01:49] <Sov> Vader, check the topic
#757 [01:49] <Dan> read the topic vader
#758 [01:49] <vader> i cant log into minecrft.net
#759 [01:50] <vader> ?
#760 [01:50] <Sov> type /topic or read the topic above
#761 [01:50] <vader> so
#762 [01:50] <Vichama> i can get on minecraft.net, but not on the game. even isminecraftdown.net said it was up. they are also liars.
#763 [01:50] <vader> so the server is down
#764 [01:50] <Sov> Yes, vader
#765 [01:50] <vader> ok
#766 [01:50] <vader> thx
#767 [01:50] <Dan> its just the auth sever for the game
#768 [01:50] <Sov> np bro.
#769 [01:51] <vader> ok
#770 [01:51] <vader> when will it be up do u know
#771 [01:51] <Vichama> yea we are looking between 25-30 mins or 250000-3000000000 mins. i forget which
#772 [01:51] <Sov> About
#773 [01:51] <Twiggy_Lyn23> lol
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#775 [01:51] <Twiggy_Lyn23> it'll be upw hen it will be up
#776 [01:51] <Sov> Apparently Notch will be awake in around 10 mins
#777 [01:51] <vader> ok
#778 [01:51] <vader> ok
#779 [01:51] <vader> lol
#780 [01:51] <Twiggy_Lyn23> XD
#781 [01:52] <mib_dm5yuf> why i cant login to mnecraft?
#782 [01:52] <vader> can someone just ring him to wake him up lol
#783 [01:52] <Twiggy_Lyn23> omg xD
#784 [01:52] <vader> damit i deleated my minecraft files
#785 [01:52] <Vichama> hey mib type /topic
#786 [01:52] <mib_dm5yuf> notch is no longer developing minecraft
#787 [01:52] <vader> ?
#788 [01:52] * mib_l9y7j4 [mib_l9y7j4@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#789 [01:52] <vader> seriecly
#790 [01:52] <Dan> yea
#791 [01:52] <Guest___> can slimes go through glass?
#792 [01:52] <vader> where does it say that
#793 [01:53] <mib_dm5yuf> now jeb is in charge
#794 [01:53] <mib_l9y7j4> ok so when i open minecraft and try to login it says i cannot connect but i can connect to the internet on google chrome and internet explorer
#795 [01:53] <vader> ok
#796 [01:53] <vader> read topic
#797 [01:53] <vader> mib
#798 [01:53] <vader> i cant connect eather
#799 [01:53] <vader> ether
#800 [01:53] <Sov> mib_l9y7j4 type /topic
#801 [01:53] <mib_l9y7j4> Can anyone?
#802 [01:53] <vader> no
#803 [01:53] <Vichama> type /topic
#804 [01:53] <Guest___> I connected through the webclient
#805 [01:53] <mib_dm5yuf> notch is now developing his big big project 0x10c
#806 [01:53] <mib_l9y7j4> ooo
#807 [01:53] <vader> NOTCH WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#808 [01:53] <mib_l9y7j4> thank you guys
#809 [01:54] <Vichama> np
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#811 [01:54] <Guest___> can slimes go through glass?
#812 [01:54] <Dan> vader, notch doesnt work on minecraft anymore
#813 [01:54] <Vichama> i dont think so
#814 [01:54] <mib_dm5yuf> NOTCH IS NO LONGER DEVELOPING MINECRAFT
#815 [01:54] <Vichama> but they do bounce everywhere
#816 [01:54] <Vichama> so sometimes i think they might glitch through
#817 [01:54] <mib_dm5yuf> guest you can play minecraft????
#818 [01:55] <Guest___> yep
#819 [01:55] <vader> ok
#820 [01:55] <Dan> on single player
#821 [01:55] <Cookies> Mobs can push other mobs through one non-solid block from time to time.
#822 [01:55] <Vichama> you can play single player
#823 [01:55] <vader> so when is it gona go up
#824 [01:55] <Guest___> nope...multiplayer
#825 [01:55] <mib_dm5yuf> oh yeah on singleplayer
#826 [01:55] <Dan> i think Guest___ was logged in before the auth server went
#827 [01:55] <Guest___> I am playing multiplayer through the webclient
#828 [01:55] <Sov> He logged on before the servers went down
#829 [01:55] <Guest___> it wasn't allowing me through the program..but webclient allowed me
#830 [01:55] <Sov> As Dan said a few seconds before me. Bastard.
#831 [01:56] <Vichama> some bot called voxelhead keeps putting a +q on me. what the heck is that?
#832 [01:56] <Guest___> did the servers just go down? because I logged on recently
#833 [01:56] <Dan> im a little faster with IRC
#834 [01:56] <Dan> im a little faster with IRC
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#837 [01:57] <Dan> oh just so every knows i have a shirt on sayin those who think they know everything annoy those of us who do.
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#840 [01:58] <Vichama> i only know a little more than something
#841 [01:59] <Sov> No body knows everything about everything
#842 [01:59] <Sov> Except me
#843 [01:59] <Sov> :)
#844 [01:59] <mib_dm5yuf> sov whats 9124712796416473947X1
#845 [02:00] <Vichama> a us launch code
#846 [02:00] <mib_dm5yuf> nope ts an ecuation
#847 [02:00] <mib_dm5yuf> its*
#848 [02:00] <Sov> equation*
#849 [02:00] <mib_dm5yuf> so you dont know eerything
#850 [02:00] <Sov> and it's 9124712796416473947
#851 [02:00] <AmberK> devisable by 7?
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#853 [02:00] <Sov> because you're times'ing it by 1
#854 [02:00] <mib_dm5yuf> DDDDDD:
#855 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> mib_dm5yuf - If you don't have anything constructive to add here, please leave.
#856 [02:01] <Dan> so how about 3x3x0
#857 [02:01] <mib_dm5yuf> well that was impresive
#858 [02:01] <Vichama> you should have divided by 0
#859 [02:01] <Sov> 0
#860 [02:01] <mib_dm5yuf> its 0
#861 [02:01] <gbear14275> hello, trying to install skyblock onto a linux AWS server... Can't find any howto's... anyone able to help?
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#863 [02:01] <AmberK> Same as any other server
#864 [02:01] <mib_dm5yuf> well just put the map in the save folder
#865 [02:01] <AmberK> but replace the world with the skyblock one
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#867 [02:02] <Jamy> Login still down
#868 [02:02] <Vichama> hmm i but a vanilla on a ubuntu server a long time ago, but forgot how sorry
#869 [02:02] <Sov> Yep
#870 [02:02] <Sov> Sadly it is Jamy
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#872 [02:02] <mib_dm5yuf> last time it took like 9 hrs for login to be up again
#873 [02:02] <gbear14275> AmberK, getting some weird errors like after restarting the server it still says it's not available but then when trying to login it will attempt to connect
#874 [02:02] <gbear14275> then it will quit, upon retry just gives an "end of stream" error
#875 [02:02] <FlapnaadPro> Hello, issue with not being able to login still not solved?
#876 [02:03] <Sov> No, sorry FlapnaadPro
#877 [02:03] <mib_dm5yuf> minecraft is still down last time it was down for 9 hrs
#878 [02:03] <Vichama> gbear it might not work because the login server is down
#879 [02:03] <FlapnaadPro> Does anyone know how long its been down now?
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#881 [02:03] <gbear14275> Vichama, that will affect a standalone server?
#882 [02:03] <Dan> i might do a map video while its down
#883 [02:03] <Vichama> yes
#884 [02:03] <mib_dm5yuf> there my also be no electricity in sweden
#885 [02:03] <Dan> gbear14275, only single player is open
#886 [02:03] <Vichama> you wont be able to login to any server. you can play single player though
#887 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> FlapnaadPro - Better part of a day
#888 [02:04] <gbear14275> Dan, Vichama, why does that affect stand alone servers? and I can connect to other maps that are on the server?
#889 [02:04] <FlapnaadPro> Well, I was able to logon to server using the website in browser feature.
#890 [02:04] <FlapnaadPro> servers*
#891 [02:04] <Dan> gbear14275, your not auth to the server
#892 [02:04] <Vichama> to get on any server you MUST be logged in
#893 [02:04] <mib_dm5yuf> yep in browser game is still working
#894 [02:05] <Sov> FlapnaadPro, where's this brower client located?
#895 [02:05] <mib_dm5yuf> on the website
#896 [02:05] <FlapnaadPro> minecraft.net
#897 [02:05] <mib_dm5yuf> its the indev version tough
#898 [02:05] <Sov> that was a stupid question
#899 [02:05] <Sov> oic
#900 [02:05] <gbear14275> Dan, I'm sorry but could you explain?
#901 [02:05] <Dan> yea
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#903 [02:05] <kermit> my minecraft do not work
#904 [02:05] <mib_dm5yuf> i am afk be back in 1 hrs
#905 [02:05] <Dan> Kealper, read the topic
#906 [02:06] <kermit> My minecraft doesn't work can some1 help me?
#907 [02:06] <Dan> Kealper, read the topic
#908 [02:06] <FlapnaadPro> Topic is 'Login servers are down. We can't help you. SPAM=BAN.
#909 [02:06] <Ryladine> kermit, whats your issue specifically? Are you not able to login?
#910 [02:06] <Dan> type /topic
#911 [02:06] <kermit> yes
#912 [02:06] <gbear14275> Dan, so part of logging into stand alone servers invovles authenticating to the main Mojang server?
#913 [02:06] <Dan> yup
#914 [02:07] <Ryladine> The MC auth servers are down, no one can login, please just be patient.
#915 [02:07] <Vichama> yes gbear
#916 [02:07] <kermit> when is it going to werk
#917 [02:07] <Dan> no ETA at all
#918 [02:07] <kermit> work*
#919 [02:07] <kermit> That sucks
#920 [02:07] <Ryladine> It could be as much as a day or longer. You can still play offline for the time being.
#921 [02:07] <kermit> yes but that sucks
#922 [02:07] <Vichama> i still say aliens turned it off to see how productive we could actually be without mc
#923 [02:07] <FlapnaadPro> Does anyone from the minecraft dev team responded or made an announcement yet?
#924 [02:08] <Dan> no
#925 [02:08] <FlapnaadPro> Has*
#926 [02:09] <rori> nah, they're just seeing if they can run the server in assembly code from the 0x10c virtual machine.
#927 [02:09] <Ryladine> Its most likely something as simple as a power failure, remember our timezones are mostly different from those of the DEV's, they will fix it as soon as they can.
#928 [02:09] <kermit> How can their are still people on servers?
#929 [02:09] <Dan> they were on before the failer
#930 [02:09] <FlapnaadPro> I got another question, but its not really minecraft related, more IRC wise, can someone help me with that?
#931 [02:09] <kermit> oww
#932 [02:09] <kermit> k
#933 [02:09] <Vichama> we can try flap
#934 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> FlapnaadPro - Just ask
#935 [02:10] <gbear14275> Dan, Vichama, I don't mean to doubt but I just loaded an old map and I'm having no problems what so ever playing... How would the main server being down problems manifest themselves?
#936 [02:10] <FlapnaadPro> Well, what do does @ and + symbols mean infront of some people's names?
#937 [02:10] <Vichama> no one seemed to know what the +q thing meant though
#938 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> @ is operator, + is voice.
#939 [02:10] <Dan> Friends friends friends, Why not Zoidberg (\/)_(o,,,o)_(\/)
#940 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Operators can ban/kick/modify the channel topic, and otherwise, be the admin/moderator.
#941 [02:10] <Vichama> did you play sigleplayer or did you connect to a server? maps can be single player or multi
#942 [02:10] <FlapnaadPro> Okay, thank you for answering, im kind of new to IRC.
#943 [02:11] <gbear14275> Vichama, connected to a multiplayer server
#944 [02:11] <Ryladine> gbear14275, by preventing you from logging into your account, if you can't login multiplayer servers cannot authenticate you so you cannot connect to them.
#945 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> + is technically used to voice people. This means, when the channel is moderated, or +m, only people who have + or @ can talk.
#946 [02:11] <Dan> gbear14275, single player is on your computer sand it is set up so you dont need to login
#947 [02:11] <gbear14275> Dan, I'm not playing single player
#948 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> In times when there is no +m, + usually denotes a VIP, or a valued member of the channel.
#949 [02:11] <Vichama> then you are amazing and did something that should be impossible
#950 [02:11] <Dan> gbear14275, what did you click?
#951 [02:12] <FlapnaadPro> GreyVulpine, is there some sort of wiki or informational website corcerning IRC?
#952 [02:12] <Ryladine> gbear14275, its possible the server you are connected to is set to offline mode true.
#953 [02:12] <gbear14275> Dan, Vichama, I simply selected multiplayer, selected our standalone server and connected... it seems to be working fine
#954 [02:12] <Ryladine> FlapnaadPro, the espernet website has a great deal of useful information.
#955 [02:12] <Vichama> ah. that way no one else can connect though
#956 [02:12] <gbear14275> Dan, Vichama, when I say standalone I mean an independent AWS linux image... we run the whole thing...
#957 [02:13] <Vichama> its like connecting to localhost
#958 [02:13] <Vichama> i never thought of doing that... hmm
#959 [02:13] <FlapnaadPro> concerning* and okay, thank you for the answer Ryladine, ill take a look.
#960 [02:13] <gbear14275> Dan, Vichama that being said my client on my computer has been "logged in" since yesterday... could I be past the authentication step?
#961 [02:13] <Ryladine> Yes.
#962 [02:13] <Vichama> ha! yes
#963 [02:13] <Sov> You're lucky gbear
#964 [02:13] <Ryladine> gbear14275, anyone logged in before the auth servers went down would still have valid sessions.
#965 [02:13] <Vichama> if you were on before the login server went down you can play all you want
#966 [02:14] <gbear14275> ah..., I apologize... Didn't realize that
#967 [02:14] <gbear14275> I'll make sure not to close my client
#968 [02:14] <Vichama> maybe i should keep mine logged in all the time too
#969 [02:14] <Vichama> no problem
#970 [02:14] <Vichama> i just thought you were magical
#971 [02:15] <gbear14275> so... not to broach a potentially quesitonable topic... but why not modify the clients to skip the authentication step? OR... Just spoof the auth reply with a mitm... I guess I'm not seeing the challenge in overcoming client side authentication
#972 [02:16] <Dan> griefers
#973 [02:16] <lassehpn> someone needs to change a fuse at mojang
#974 [02:16] <gbear14275> Dan, griefers? As in the authentications protect players from griefers?
#975 [02:16] <Ryladine> gbear14275, you client gets a session key from the auth servers which allows you to connect to multi player servers, you can disable the authentication serverside but it allows anyone to join with any name.
#976 [02:17] <Sov> So, I could go in as Ryladine
#977 [02:17] <Sov> etc.
#978 [02:17] <toadfan321> and get unbanned
#979 [02:17] <Dan> yea
#980 [02:17] <gbear14275> Ryladine, ah, so for example on my server I imagine anyone could potentially join with any name as it's not an official server?
#981 [02:17] <Ryladine> You could even take it so far as to steal op.
#982 [02:17] <toadfan321> and they have servers that are like that
#983 [02:17] <toadfan321> cracked servers
#984 [02:18] <Ryladine> Not quite, but it allows people to falsify who they are.
#985 [02:18] <toadfan321> i signed into one a s notch
#986 [02:18] <toadfan321> created a shitstorm
#987 [02:18] <lassehpn> dose shitstorms
#988 [02:18] <Ryladine> If I were to disable the authentication on my server and someone joined as ryladine they would have op, and access to full control of the server ingame.
#989 [02:18] <Vichama> i hope you had his skin too
#990 [02:18] <Dan> when will 1.3 come out?
#991 [02:18] <toadfan321> yep
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#993 [02:18] <Mekixx> is login still down
#994 [02:19] <gbear14275> so the official server client... I assume it has the authentication check built it? or are stand alone servers on their own from the get go...
#995 [02:19] <Sov> Yes Mekixx
#996 [02:19] <toadfan321> i didnt have his cape though
#997 [02:19] <Mekixx> kk
#998 [02:19] <Mekixx> !check 108.60.148.22:25565
#999 [02:19] <Vichama> how do you get those capes?
#1000 [02:19] <Ryladine> The official client does, and most server mods like bukkit does as well. Though it can commonly be disabled in the configs.
#1001 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Vichama - You don't
#1002 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Either you're a member of Mojang, or you went to the first Mojang convention
#1003 [02:20] <gbear14275> Ryladine, would that be in the server.properties file?
#1004 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Otherwise, there's no way to get a cape
#1005 [02:20] <Ryladine> Yes
#1006 [02:20] <Vichama> ah ty
#1007 [02:20] <Ryladine> Also, hello grey, its been awhile again ;)
#1008 [02:21] <gbear14275> Ryladine, is there anywhere I can find a server guide? something with all the flags that aren't present in the default config?
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#1010 [02:21] <Vichama> if you are going to run a server, run bukkit
#1011 [02:21] <Ryladine> Everything you need should be in the default config, a list of the settings for each can be found on the minecraft wiki.
#1012 [02:21] <gbear14275> capes... are you guys talking about capes like batman capes or capes as in short for capabilities?
#1013 [02:22] <Vichama> im batman
#1014 [02:22] <Vichama> I am BATMAN!!!
#1015 [02:22] <Ryladine> gbear14275, I beleive they are speaking of capes ingame, simmilar to the ones the spout plugin for bukkit allow players.
#1016 [02:23] <Ryladine> Though more restricted and rare.
#1017 [02:23] <Vichama> spout huh?
#1018 [02:23] <gbear14275> Ryladine, ok, I'll take another look at the wiki but I recalled that we were having problems with the spawn protection area interferring with us being able to build on a particularly small island... so we had to do some searching to include the "spawn-protection=0" flag at the end of the server.properties
#1019 [02:23] <Vichama> so that's how you turn that off
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#1021 [02:23] <ladyarecool> NOW LOGIN SERVER DOWN IS MMAJOR OFF
#1022 [02:24] <Ryladine> I wasn't aware anything like that existed, but I suppose its possible.
#1023 [02:24] <ladyarecool> NVM IT WAS NOW PARTIAL
#1024 [02:24] <Vichama> i had turned it off in the past, but since i started my new server i couldn't find that setting
#1025 [02:24] <Sov> !check server.rubidiumlabs.net:25550
#1026 [02:24] <Sov> Cool.
#1027 [02:24] <gbear14275> so... now that I'm past the auth stage... Should I be having problems installing the skyblock map?
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#1029 [02:25] <ladyarecool> login server in major service outrageD:
#1030 [02:25] <koro35> Servers geeeet up :(
#1031 [02:25] <Vichama> is it just a map? or a mod?
#1032 [02:25] <Vichama> gbear14275 is it just a map or a mod?
#1033 [02:25] <Ryladine> gbear14275, not likely no. Map installation is fairly simple.
#1034 [02:25] <ladyarecool> -sighs- i got nothing to do while offline
#1035 [02:26] <gbear14275> Vichama, http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/600254-surv-skyblock/ <-- First time trying to install a challenge map... this looked great but having problems getting it working
#1036 [02:26] <Vichama> yea run the server once, stop it, then copy the map over the world folders that are there
#1037 [02:26] <gbear14275> saw a youtube video saying that I should copy another gamefile and copy files over from the zip into the cloned gamefile but still doesn't seem to be working
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#1039 [02:26] <ladyarecool> login server back i nmajor service outrage
#1040 [02:27] <ladyarecool> in major service outrage*
#1041 [02:27] <Jamy> It's back?
#1042 [02:27] <lassehpn> maybe this is a ddos?
#1043 [02:27] <Sov> Screw it, I'll be back later -- I have an assignment on a Nazi Propagandaist I should be doing :/ Leni Riefenstahl, here I come
#1044 [02:27] <ladyarecool> no still off
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#1046 [02:28] <Kadri> I'm starting to wonder what I paid for.
#1047 [02:28] <ladyarecool> GOD DAMN IT NOTCH HELP MOJANG U NEED TO GET BACK TO WORK
#1048 [02:28] <koro35> Notch doesnt work on minecraft
#1049 [02:28] <ladyarecool> NOTCH OUT PARTYING WHILE LOGIN SERVERS OFF HE COULD GET THEM BACK ON
#1050 [02:28] <Dan> ladyarecool, caps
#1051 [02:28] <Kadri> And Jeb doesn't handle the server.
#1052 [02:28] <koro35> Once they wake up they will know
#1053 [02:28] <ladyarecool> why ur name red
#1054 [02:28] <Kadri> So whoever the idiot is that Does handle the server is probably hung over and not paying attention.
#1055 [02:28] <koro35> twitter spams them
#1056 [02:29] <Vichama> gbear14275 im pretty sure the best way to do it is create a new folder for the server, run it once to create the files it needs, stop the server, copy over the files in that zip. it should have folders called world, world_nether, and world_the_end
#1057 [02:29] <Kadri> I'm beginning to wonder whether they don't bother building up a proper machine, or a proper restart cycle, etc.
#1058 [02:29] <Vichama> the world folder has the actual map you will be playing on
#1059 [02:29] <gbear14275> the only difference I could spot between the zip file and a normal map created on server was the missing DIM1 and the players folders (at first glance)
#1060 [02:30] <Ryladine> kadri, it could be anything from a major server failure to a power outage or damage to the lines for the servers internet.
#1061 [02:30] <Ryladine> You can't always blame the techs.
#1062 [02:30] <Vichama> which file did you dl? i tried the normal one and it said it wasnt found
#1063 [02:30] <gbear14275> Vichama, we're actually creating new worlds and then changing the server.prop file to point to different folders upon start... we don't even have a "world" folder anymore
#1064 [02:30] <ladyarecool> no they need to get notch for help
#1065 [02:31] <Kadri> Ryladine, every time the server's gone down for the past month, it's been because a tech wasn't there to restart it.
#1066 [02:31] <Vichama> oh thats something a bit more involved and i dont know how to do that yet
#1067 [02:31] <gbear14275> just realized I still had a world seed in my server.properties file... wonder if that was it
#1068 [02:31] <Kadri> Couple weeks ago, it was because the tech was on vacation, and no one else had access to restart it.
#1069 [02:32] <gbear14275> any linux server users here?
#1070 [02:32] <ladyarecool> gawd damn techs lazy idit should be fired
#1071 [02:32] <Dan> gbear14275, yea
#1072 [02:32] <Ryladine> gbear, it should not effect it if the world is already generated.
#1073 [02:32] <gbear14275> Ryladine, would the skyblock download be an already defined world?
#1074 [02:32] <gbear14275> generated*
#1075 [02:32] <Ryladine> gbear14275, what have you tried doing exactly, just putting the world file in and changing the server.properties to point at it?
#1076 [02:32] <Ryladine> Hmm let me check your link.
#1077 [02:33] <Vichama> yes it would and is an already defined world
#1078 [02:33] <gbear14275> Ryladine, unzipped the file... pointed server.properties at it (try #1), weird behavior eventually repeating "end of stream"
#1079 [02:33] <Vichama> all map challenges are already generated and modified by someone
#1080 [02:33] <gbear14275> tried to clone another world and then overwrite all the files from the skyblock folder... (2nd try)
#1081 [02:34] <gbear14275> lots of googling looking for help... and then came here
#1082 [02:34] <Ryladine> Have you tried putting it in a different server to see if its an issue with the software and not the map?
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#1084 [02:34] <Vichama> dont clone! make a completely new folder, start the server in there, stop it, then copy the files over
#1085 [02:34] <gbear14275> the only differences I can see from the zip file and a normally generated world are a missing DIM1 and players folders
#1086 [02:34] <Vichama> wait, are you running 2 servers on the same machine?
#1087 [02:34] <ladyarecool> FUCK THE TECHS AT MOJANG THEY NEEED NOTCH'S HELP I BET
#1088 [02:34] * AuBot kicked ladyarecool from #minecrafthelp (Reason: adyarecool :Please keep it civil.)
#1089 [02:35] <gbear14275> Vichama, no, just one. we change the server.prop file when we want to play a different world and then just restart the minecraft service
#1090 [02:35] <Ryladine> gbear, which version did you download? The hardcore version?
#1091 [02:35] <Vichama> ok let me try to dl that file again. did you dl the hardcore version?
#1092 [02:36] <gbear14275> Ryladine, no, just normal 2.1
#1093 [02:36] <Ryladine> The default does have the dim1 folder, so your downlaod may be corrupted. I would suggest retrying the download and seeing if that fixes the issue.
#1094 [02:36] <gbear14275> Ryladine, alright will do that now
#1095 [02:36] <gbear14275> brb
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#1097 [02:38] <Vichama> whoa. i havent seen a challenge map like this
#1098 [02:39] <Vichama> none of my servers have dim1 folder
#1099 [02:40] <gbear14275> Ryladine, just downloaded again... there's a DIM-1 but no DIM1... am I getting a bad copy by chance? link: http://server290.uppit.com/files/8/j1903wau6re4bx/SkyBlock2.1.zip
#1100 [02:40] <gbear14275> btw... I really appreciate the patience and help
#1101 [02:40] <gbear14275> thank you all
#1102 [02:40] <Ryladine> It may be a singleplayer file, I honestly don't do maps much.
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#1104 [02:41] <Vichama> checking something...
#1105 [02:41] <Kadri> Yes, the server is broken. Because Jeb hires idiots who can't write an autorestart script to save their lives.
#1106 [02:41] <Ryladine> Thats the same link I used, its possible the server is removing the file if your not checking it before you run it.
#1107 [02:42] <SinZ> Kadri: Yes, because jeb is the leader of mojang
#1108 [02:42] <gbear14275> Ryladine, I'm downloading it using the web and wget and getting the same file
#1109 [02:42] <gbear14275> could I ask you to do an md5sum on it please?
#1110 [02:42] <Kadri> SinZ, he handles Minecraft, he could appoint someone else to handle minecraft's auth server :P
#1111 [02:42] <Kadri> Or at least demand that they put in an autorestart.
#1112 [02:42] <Vichama> OH! i figured it out
#1113 [02:42] <SinZ> He is just a game developer for mojang, nothing more.
#1114 [02:42] <gbear14275> md5sum SkyBlock2.1.zip
#1115 [02:42] <gbear14275> 358543413e533cb34e3ca02726cb4865 SkyBlock2.1.zip
#1116 [02:43] <Vichama> its a single player map
#1117 [02:43] <Vichama> i think you make make it a multi
#1118 [02:43] <Vichama> just a sec
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#1120 [02:43] <Ryladine> The server should automatically convert it.
#1121 [02:43] <Kadri> He's a flaming idiot, if anything. He's focused on adding in books and village vendors so hard that he isn't bothering to make sure the game even still works :P
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#1123 [02:43] <Vichama> you have to put the files in the right spot
#1124 [02:43] <Vichama> you cant use a folder named dim1
#1125 [02:43] <SinZ> Kadri: Mollstam is incharge of the login server
#1126 [02:43] <Vichama> it has to be called world
#1127 [02:43] <Kadri> And who writes Mollstam's paychecks?
#1128 [02:44] <rymate1234> hey
#1129 [02:44] <Ryladine> The server should handle the files itself fine, he's modifying the server.properties so it uses the file as the world file.
#1130 [02:44] <Kadri> Notch has pretty much abandoned MC.
#1131 [02:44] <rymate1234> I cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1132 [02:44] <gbear14275> Vichama, hmm... so just create a "world" folder and unzip it there?
#1133 [02:44] <Vichama> ok try copying that file into world.
#1134 [02:44] <Ryladine> rymate1234, the auth servers are down.
#1135 [02:44] <Vichama> just a sec im double checking, but that sounds right
#1136 [02:44] <rymate1234> ....again?
#1137 [02:44] <rymate1234> ¬_¬
#1138 [02:44] <Ryladine> Yep, again.
#1139 [02:44] <SinZ> Carl Manneh is the person who does the pay checks Kadri
#1140 [02:45] <SinZ> Ryladine: the login servers are down, session is running fine.
#1141 [02:45] <Kadri> SinZ, if you're trying to play the apologist card, you're not doing a very good job of it. All you're doing is passing the blame along between a group of morons.
#1142 [02:45] <Vichama> better yet just copy the folder called region and the files below that into a folder called world
#1143 [02:45] <SinZ> <Kadri> Yes, the server is broken. Because Jeb hires idiots who can't write an autorestart script to save their lives.
#1144 [02:45] <Vichama> but do as i said before. start a NEW server in a NEW folder
#1145 [02:46] <SinZ> iirc Mollstam was there before jeb
#1146 [02:46] <Ryladine> Meh, well have fun you lot, 3AM is my limit :)
#1147 [02:46] <Vichama> then stop the server. copy the files i just told you to and it should work
#1148 [02:46] <SinZ> and the server is still running, its just frozen
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#1150 [02:46] <gbear14275> Vichama, ok, I'll try moving the minecraft_server.jar file into the folder and running it from there... just unzip the file into a "world" folder with the server jar in it correct?
#1151 [02:47] <Vichama> dont unzip the whole thing
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#1153 [02:47] <Kadri> Sinz, I don't give a damn who was there first.
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#1155 [02:47] <Kadri> What I care about is that they Still can't run the damn thing right, after how many years?
#1156 [02:47] <gbear14275> Vichama, oh... ok, which files/dirs do I need to copy into it?
#1157 [02:47] <SinZ> 2-3 years
#1158 [02:47] <Vichama> just the region folder and the leve.dat and other little files
#1159 [02:47] <Kadri> If the server is running, but just frozen, then it needs a restart.
#1160 [02:47] <Kadri> It's that simple.
#1161 [02:47] <Vichama> i wish i could point to the files
#1162 [02:47] <Vichama> ill have to list them just a sec
#1163 [02:47] <Kadri> It's a ten second command send. Or an automated process, if it's done right.
#1164 [02:48] <Vichama> ok it should just be the region folder and all the files in that, plus the level.dat, level.dat_old, .DS_Store, and session.lock
#1165 [02:49] <Vichama> i cant test it myself because i didnt have my client open before the login server crash
#1166 [02:49] <Vichama> the region folder inside the dim-1 folder looks the same as the one in the top folder
#1167 [02:49] <gbear14275> Vichama, ok, lemme give that a shot. brb
#1168 [02:50] <Vichama> k i wish you luck
#1169 [02:50] <gbear14275> Vichama, will report back one sec
#1170 [02:50] <gbear14275> Vichama, will report back one sec
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#1175 [02:52] <toadfan321> is the auth server back
#1176 [02:52] <Dan> no
#1177 [02:53] <toadfan321> u seen krispy creme
#1178 [02:53] <Vichama> gbear14275 i see the instructions on that page were for the single player version. thats probably why you were having so much trouble
#1179 [02:53] <Dan> i only listen to music
#1180 [02:53] <toadfan321> they ae two white guys that think they can rap
#1181 [02:53] <toadfan321> let me show you some of their lyrics
#1182 [02:54] <Dan> toadfan321, again i only listen to music and rap isnt music
#1183 [02:54] <toadfan321> fair enough
#1184 [02:54] <toadfan321> their a youtube thing
#1185 [02:54] <toadfan321> but
#1186 [02:54] <toadfan321> leme show u their lyrics
#1187 [02:54] <Dan> no im ok
#1188 [02:54] <toadfan321> plz
#1189 [02:54] <toadfan321> its hilarious
#1190 [02:54] <Dan> i already know of it
#1191 [02:54] <toadfan321> its so bad
#1192 [02:54] <toadfan321> oh ok
#1193 [02:55] <Vichama> is he trying to get you to listen to bad music?
#1194 [02:55] <toadfan321> have u seem the monsterous photo of one direction walking across abbey lane thinking they can replace the beatles
#1195 [02:55] <papperlapapa> Is there again a problem with the Login-Server?
#1196 [02:55] <Dan> yea he is
#1197 [02:55] <Kadri> Yes, someone needs to restart the login server.
#1198 [02:56] <toadfan321> ok i listen to rap so i can tell kids at my school i listen to rap
#1199 [02:56] <Kadri> But alas, they're not paying attention.
#1200 [02:56] <toadfan321> i dont generaly like it
#1201 [02:56] <Kadri> So the money we spent on the game? Wasted for the moment.
#1202 [02:56] <Vichama> if you dont like it, dont listen to it
#1203 [02:56] <Dan> Kadri, just a simple restart doesnt help
#1204 [02:56] <Kadri> @Dan: The server is frozen. it needs to be restarted.
#1205 [02:56] <Kadri> That's really all there is to it.
#1206 [02:56] <gbear14275> Vichama, hmm... got a connection refused error
#1207 [02:56] <Vichama> your "kids" will respect you more if you dont try to pretend
#1208 [02:57] <Dan> Kadri, if it was just that then it would of been done a long time ago so its more then that
#1209 [02:57] <toadfan321> im in intermediate school
#1210 [02:57] <Kadri> @Dan, do you remember the last crash?
#1211 [02:57] <Kadri> All it needed was a reboot. But no one with the login data for the server was available.
#1212 [02:57] <Kadri> Because the server handlers were out of town.
#1213 [02:57] <Vichama> gbear14275 without the server thing up I cant properly troubleshoot. sorry
#1214 [02:57] <Vichama> it should have worked
#1215 [02:57] <SinZ> and... server should be up
#1216 [02:58] <gbear14275> Vichama, no prob... I appreciate the effort... may have made a typo... let me pastebin some things
#1217 [02:58] <SinZ> !login
#1218 [02:58] <papperlapapa> Kadri: Thanks for the info. Does Mojang provide any status update on that?
#1219 [02:58] <rori> auth server back up
#1220 [02:58] <Dan> Kadri, the way i see it yes you paid but they are a small inde dev so just wait and see what happens
#1221 [02:58] <Kadri> Of course, Blizzard gets the ringer about server failures, but everyone sides with Mojang when they screw up.
#1222 [02:58] <Dan> in
#1223 [02:58] <Vichama> sweet i just got in!
#1224 [02:58] <SinZ> Dan: can hardly call them small
#1225 [02:58] <Vichama> servers are back up!
#1226 [02:58] * papperlapapa sigh
#1226 [02:58] <toadfan321> t!login
#1227 [02:58] <Kadri> I don't care if it's a small company. If they're wanting to get into the software industry, they need to learn how to play with the big dogs, or get stepped on.
#1228 [02:58] <Dan> i know 6 million prem users with over 30 million users
#1229 [02:58] <SinZ> Kadri: because when blizzards servers are down, Noone can play, mojang offers offline mode.
#1230 [02:58] <toadfan321> !login
#1231 [02:59] <toadfan321> papper
#1232 [02:59] <Vichama> ok gbear let me try to figure out your problem
#1233 [02:59] <toadfan321> papperlapapa how u do the *[name] [text]
#1234 [02:59] <SinZ> ./me ?
#1235 [02:59] <toadfan321> oh
#1236 [03:00] <toadfan321> i forgot
#1237 [03:00] <toadfan321> i knew it owuld be simple like that
#1238 [03:00] <papperlapapa> toadfan321: me
#1239 [03:00] <Kadri> SinZ: That's great, if you play in offline mode. How many people do for any extended period of time? Barring creative, MC Singleplayer doesn't have a lot of replay value, especially since you damn near have to restart your world every time a patch comes out.
#1240 [03:00] * toadfan321 thanks SinZ
#1240 [03:00] <Kadri> Especially when the next one comes out, since none of the generated chunks will have emerald in them.
#1241 [03:01] <Sov> Is it working?
#1242 [03:01] <toadfan321> creativ3e is availible when ur on offline...
#1243 [03:01] <SinZ> Sov: try it out for yourself
#1244 [03:01] <lassehpn> it works
#1245 [03:01] <toadfan321> kadri did u not hear emerald will be rarer than diamond
#1246 [03:01] <toadfan321> so it doesnt matter anyway
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#1248 [03:01] <toadfan321> he removed it cause it was so rare
#1249 [03:02] <Kadri> Toad, if you don't restart your world, it'll be a LOT rarer than diamond... Which is to say, it won't be there at all.
#1250 [03:02] <SinZ> toadfan321: and he added it back again
#1251 [03:02] <toadfan321> and it only comes in groups of one
#1252 [03:02] <toadfan321> ya i know sin
#1253 [03:02] <SinZ> its inpractical to mine for emerald, easier to just trade wheat or wool
#1254 [03:02] <toadfan321> exactly
#1255 [03:02] <Zimsky> Back up apparently
#1256 [03:02] <toadfan321> kadri thats why he removed it its so rare
#1257 [03:02] <Zimsky> Yes hello, auth servers apparently back
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#1259 [03:03] <Calinou> !login
#1260 [03:04] <papperlapapa> Anyway thanks to whoever brought the login server back to life
#1261 [03:06] <gbear14275> http://pastebin.com/2EjEfuAw <-- folder contents before running, http://pastebin.com/au1b50ET <-- init.d script
#1262 [03:06] <papperlapapa> So now any hints on where I could find some *in depth* info about how regions work with WorldGuard?
#1263 [03:06] <SinZ> papperlapapa: ask in #sk89q
#1264 [03:08] <papperlapapa> SinZ: Thanks!
#1265 [03:09] <rymate1234> !login
#1266 [03:09] <rymate1234> \o/
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#1268 [03:17] <Zedd> Hurray, it's back up.
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#1276 [03:30] <zkxs> lol, auth servers go down and suddenly #minecrafthelp is full
#1277 [03:31] <zkxs> oh gosh, why am I still awake?
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#1279 [03:41] <Fry> is the login down
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#1281 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> Auth server is borked
#1282 [03:43] <Dan> !login
#1283 [03:43] <Dan> no its not DiskDaemon
#1284 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> The #minecraft channel has had people there asking about it as well
#1285 [03:44] <Dan> happy?
#1286 [03:44] <DiskDaemon> Currently my login is taking longer than usual, but it eventually gets there, so things are slower than usual right now
#1287 [03:44] <Dan> its cause you have a lot of people logging it
#1288 [03:44] <Dan> its cause you have a lot of people logging it
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#1290 [03:45] <Dan> i logged in before the masses after it was up so i dogged that lag
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#1300 [04:39] <corn> hello?
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#1304 [05:04] <Deathspawn> i keep getting this: http://pastie.org/private/digov8zgciw5luchpqul8w
#1305 [05:06] <DiskDaemon> Looks like a lwjgl issue - "BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)"
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#1307 [05:08] <_303> upload your modloader.txt to pastie. looks like the error screen crashed, causing that error
#1308 [05:09] <Guest> Is there a IRC chat to advertise my server?
#1309 [05:09] <GreyVulpine> Yes, #smp
#1310 [05:10] <Guest> Thank you very much!
#1311 [05:10] <Deathspawn> doesn't do that crash when i do vanilla, just when i load up modloader
#1312 [05:10] <Deathspawn> and modloader is a fresh copy. also using magic launcher
#1313 [05:11] <_303> still, modloader.txt might contain the actual error, which the crashing error screen hides from you
#1314 [05:11] <_303> still, modloader.txt might contain the actual error, which the crashing error screen hides from you
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#1316 [05:12] <Deathspawn> oh i didn't even see your line up there, sorry, hang on
#1317 [05:14] <Deathspawn> http://pastie.org/private/awfjyrzrii8fbkngkf8miw
#1318 [05:15] <Deathspawn> the crap is it doing computercraft stuff in there
#1319 [05:15] <Deathspawn> i dont have those mods loaded
#1320 [05:16] <_303> maybe you still have old mods in your mods/ folder. also the error says you are lacking forge
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#1322 [05:18] <Deathspawn> had mod config folders lingering in there, removed all but the needed ones, now it is working
#1323 [05:18] <Deathspawn> thanks for that suggestion :)
#1324 [05:18] <_303> \o/
#1325 [05:18] <Deathspawn> s/removed/moved to a better place/
#1326 [05:22] <xKingOfChaosx> hi, i have now installed the plugin "Survival Games" But after each games, on the signs stands "ARENA 1 RESETING 0%" after 15minutes its also on 0%. But when i make a restart, the reload is finished. sry for my bad english :D
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#1330 [05:29] <n0g4> How can I contact support. Becouse i lost my password and i can't get it back becouse gmail shutdown my old email. I have proof that i bouth that account.
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#1332 [05:37] <Drowz0r> Bonjour
#1333 [05:38] <Drowz0r> Does anyone here know how to install Minecraft in Ubuntu?
#1334 [05:38] <Drowz0r> I'm finding the instructions a little difficult to follow.
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#1337 [05:50] <SinZ> n0g4: help.mojang.com
#1338 [05:52] <Calinou> lmao drowz0r... frenchie + linux + minecraft.
#1339 [05:52] <n0g4> i wrriten them but i didint get answer for like 2 weeks already
#1340 [05:52] <Calinou> "I'm finding the instructions a little difficult to follow." no seriously? double clicking a jar file is difficult?
#1341 [05:54] <tyteen4a03> [17:41] * Drowz0r (Mibbit@80-42-170-235.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) Quit (Client Quit)
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#1343 [06:00] <Calinou> ikr tyteen4a03
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#1347 [06:06] <Sonardo> I appear to have a problem.
#1348 [06:07] <Sonardo> My connection to minecraft servers is ultra laggy
#1349 [06:07] <Calinou> Sonardo, could be your fault or the server's fault
#1350 [06:07] <Sonardo> To the point where I can't actually say anything
#1351 [06:07] <Calinou> - stop any downloads/uploads you're currently doing. also try using ethernet instead of wireless network
#1352 [06:07] <Calinou> the server may have timeout. if you have 60+ second lag then you will disconnect with "read timeout" error
#1353 [06:08] <Calinou> to check connection to a server, type /ping
#1354 [06:08] <Sonardo> I've been on two servers and the result is the same
#1355 [06:08] <Calinou> maybe both of them are just overloaded or crashed? :P
#1356 [06:09] <Calinou> check your firewall, too, it may block outgoing connections in some way. what antivirus do you use, if any? what operating system?
#1357 [06:09] <Sonardo> W7, Kaspersky pure
#1358 [06:10] <Calinou> do you run kaspersky's firewall? and windows's firewall?
#1359 [06:10] <Sonardo> I don't know
#1360 [06:10] <Sonardo> The problem only started today
#1361 [06:10] <Calinou> /software/ firewalls are pretty much unneeded today. 99% of routers have firewalls
#1362 [06:10] <Calinou> oh
#1363 [06:11] <Calinou> Sonardo, try connecting to this server: s.nerd.nu
#1364 [06:11] <Calinou> tell me if it works
#1365 [06:11] <Sonardo> Same thing
#1366 [06:12] <Sonardo> I can connect, but then anything I say won't show up
#1367 [06:12] <Sonardo> Stranger still, it shows up for other people and they reply
#1368 [06:12] <Sonardo> But I don't see what they say either.
#1369 [06:12] <Calinou> Sonardo, what are you trying to say? if you break blocks, do they reappar immediatly?
#1370 [06:12] <Calinou> you can't say just spaces in minecraft
#1371 [06:13] <Sonardo> Could it possibly be a port problem?
#1372 [06:13] <Calinou> port problem? you mean firewall?
#1373 [06:14] <Sonardo> Well I was running an MC server on the port 42000
#1374 [06:15] <Calinou> why not the default port? :P
#1375 [06:15] <Calinou> what java version are you using? 6? 7?
#1376 [06:15] <Sonardo> Latest, as far as I know.
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#1378 [06:21] <Sonardo> Okay, I changed the ports back to normal, still no decent fix.
#1379 [06:22] <Sonardo> It was fine until the login servers went down, not sure if that's coincidence?
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#1381 [06:27] <Sonardo> Okay my problem is this:
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#1383 [06:28] <Sonardo> My client sends info, but doesn't recieve it.
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#1389 [07:41] <Morrolan> Juze - Did a fire break out? ;)
#1390 [07:43] <Calinou> ?
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#1392 [07:44] <Morrolan> I assume he needed an op ~8 hours ago, highlighted a bunch of us.
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#1395 [08:00] <mib_40vq0s> my transaction could not go through yesterday. What was this about?
#1396 [08:01] <Necrodoom> as far as i understand
#1397 [08:01] <Necrodoom> minecraft servers being crash happy
#1398 [08:02] <mib_40vq0s> lol but it was the website. thats not a server. it is probably just a mini prroblem
#1399 [08:04] <Necrodoom> mib_40vq0s: i mean all of the minecraft online stuff, recently auth servers crashed quite a bit
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#1402 [08:19] <vilzza> i get this error 7cf3a456
#1403 [08:19] <vilzza> when i login
#1404 [08:20] <GreyVulpine> Paste the entire error log to pastebin.com and give us the URL so that we may read it, please.
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#1408 [08:22] <vilzza> http://pastebin.com/uBtiQHp0
#1409 [08:23] <GreyVulpine> Try uninstalling java 7 and reverting back to java 6. You can get the installer for 6 from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html
#1410 [08:23] <Calinou> "OpenGL: null version null, null"
#1411 [08:23] <Calinou> ...? what's your graphics card?
#1412 [08:23] <vilzza> nvidia 7900gs :D
#1413 [08:24] <vilzza> old card broke and didnt have money to buy new one :D
#1414 [08:24] <Calinou> that card won't really run minecraft playably
#1415 [08:24] <Calinou> try installing drivers from nvidia's website, NOT from windows update
#1416 [08:24] <vilzza> ok
#1417 [08:24] <vilzza> i try this java thing first
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#1421 [08:49] <FirebrandTB> Hello... I have an issue here with opening the game.
#1422 [08:49] <Necrodoom> ask
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#1424 [08:49] <FirebrandTB> First off, I have two laptops, one windows XP and the other win 7
#1425 [08:49] <FirebrandTB> the windows XP works just fine
#1426 [08:49] <FirebrandTB> but I want it on my 7
#1427 [08:50] <FirebrandTB> it refuses to download the game or play it.
#1428 [08:50] <FirebrandTB> I first narrowed it down to java
#1429 [08:50] <FirebrandTB> removed java and put on 6 update 30
#1430 [08:50] <FirebrandTB> and was able to access the launcher and the minecraft.net server
#1431 [08:50] <FirebrandTB> now it opens and gets to the downloading packages prompt, and stops there
#1432 [08:51] <FirebrandTB> looked around for an answer, haven't found one on google at all
#1433 [08:51] <Necrodoom> doesnt seem like a common error
#1434 [08:51] <Necrodoom> nor a issue with the OS
#1435 [08:52] <FirebrandTB> need hardware at all?
#1436 [08:52] <Necrodoom> drivers are all updated?
#1437 [08:52] <FirebrandTB> yes
#1438 [08:52] <FirebrandTB> brand new laptop
#1439 [08:52] <FirebrandTB> checked it all myself
#1440 [08:52] <FirebrandTB> does dual video chips matter at all, it's got integrated intel 3000 with the i5 cpu, and also has a geforce 630m
#1441 [08:53] <FirebrandTB> I've been running it forced into the geforce
#1442 [08:53] <Necrodoom> minecraft may have some issues with certain video cards
#1443 [08:53] <Necrodoom> but geforce should work fine
#1444 [08:53] <Necrodoom> i dont think its hardware
#1445 [08:54] <FirebrandTB> didn't think so either
#1446 [08:55] <FirebrandTB> I'm assuming a software compatibility, but I've found none, went to barebones for the startup sequence and no changes
#1447 [08:55] <FirebrandTB> same problem with running only the microsoft services/startup
#1448 [08:56] <Necrodoom> i dont know much about these stuff
#1449 [08:56] <Necrodoom> maybe if you try performance fixing mods, it may help
#1450 [08:56] <Necrodoom> or custom clients
#1451 [08:57] <FirebrandTB> got any suggestions?
#1452 [08:57] <FirebrandTB> and I can't even download the game files from minecraft.net
#1453 [08:57] <Necrodoom> hm
#1454 [08:57] <FirebrandTB> difficult to mod files I don't have
#1455 [08:58] <Necrodoom> maybe try a custom client, it may override the issue
#1456 [08:58] <Necrodoom> theres a client called spoutclient
#1457 [08:58] <FirebrandTB> have a link?
#1458 [08:59] <Necrodoom> http://www.spout.org/
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#1460 [09:00] <Calinou> FirebrandTB, try using the .jar launcher
#1461 [09:00] <Calinou> "linux/other" launcher
#1462 [09:00] <FirebrandTB> and the hardware is easily more than powerful enough to push through anything, I was just playing crysis 2 maxed out
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#1466 [09:02] <FirebrandTB> grabbing the jar
#1467 [09:02] <FirebrandTB> spoutcraft downloads just fine
#1468 [09:03] <Necrodoom> .downloads the minecraft files, you mean?
#1469 [09:03] <FirebrandTB> yeah
#1470 [09:03] <FirebrandTB> into the .spoutcraft folder
#1471 [09:03] <FirebrandTB> now it's contacting mirrors and just sitting there at that
#1472 [09:04] <Necrodoom> strange
#1473 [09:04] <Necrodoom> you sure you dont have an internet issue>
#1474 [09:04] <FirebrandTB> very sure
#1475 [09:04] <FirebrandTB> I'm at a friend's place right now as well
#1476 [09:04] <FirebrandTB> so 2 different locations, 2 different providers
#1477 [09:05] <Necrodoom> its not the minecraft download cloud, not sure whats your issue then
#1478 [09:06] <FirebrandTB> just got the jar, I can log in, but the update stops on downloading packages
#1479 [09:06] <FirebrandTB> I don't have a firewall up
#1480 [09:07] <FirebrandTB> windows defender is disabled
#1481 [09:07] <FirebrandTB> no AV
#1482 [09:07] <Calinou> using wireless connection? try ethernet instead
#1483 [09:08] <FirebrandTB> kk, let me see if I've got a cable
#1484 [09:08] <FirebrandTB> spoutcraft finally logged in
#1485 [09:08] <FirebrandTB> took about 5 minutes
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#1487 [09:13] <FirebrandTB> well, spoutcraft works fine
#1488 [09:13] <FirebrandTB> I'll stick with this
#1489 [09:13] <FirebrandTB> thanks guys
#1490 [09:14] <Necrodoom> its a bit modded
#1491 [09:14] <Necrodoom> but it works like normal
#1492 [09:14] <Necrodoom> aswell as multiplayer
#1493 [09:14] <FirebrandTB> I looked through the options
#1494 [09:14] <FirebrandTB> seems modded for everything but the game itself
#1495 [09:17] <FirebrandTB> wow, maxed out everything and it was lagging... :/
#1496 [09:17] <FirebrandTB> I kinda expected better programming there
#1497 [09:18] <Necrodoom> spout maxed out is 10 times more graphics than minecraft maxed out
#1498 [09:18] <FirebrandTB> it's still not that graphical
#1499 [09:18] <FirebrandTB> compared to games that I've been playing
#1500 [09:18] <Necrodoom> blame the minecraft core
#1501 [09:18] <FirebrandTB> I am :P
#1502 [09:18] <FirebrandTB> like I said, I expected better programming
#1503 [09:19] <Necrodoom> yeah
#1504 [09:19] <Necrodoom> you can try minor performance fixes
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#1512 [09:46] <Muffunz> Does anyone know why AMIDST and Eye of Enders would be sending me to a false location for a Stronghold?
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#1514 [09:48] <RubyRed> [WIKI] Change by an IP on Mods/Cheating removed [see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Mods%2FCheating&action=historysubmit&diff=319403&oldid=309737
#1515 [09:48] <RubyRed> I am not a bot, btw.
#1516 [09:48] <RubyRed> I am not a bot, btw.
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#1521 [10:44] <Juze> [14:40] * Morrolan|Away is now known as Morrolan
#1522 [10:44] <Juze> [14:40] <@Morrolan> Juze - Did a fire break out? ;)
#1523 [10:44] <Juze> How do you know? o_o
#1524 [10:44] <Juze> ...lol
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#1529 [11:05] <mib_59i2om> is minecraft login up?
#1530 [11:05] <Calinou> !login
#1531 [11:05] <Calinou> mib_59i2om, yep, works.
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#1533 [11:07] <mib_59i2om> yay
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#1535 [11:08] <KATOFOX> hi
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#1537 [11:09] <Calinou> hi
#1538 [11:09] <KATOFOX> i've a problem on my server i can't modify any blocs
#1539 [11:11] <KATOFOX> can you help me please
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#1541 [11:13] <KATOFOX> ??
#1542 [11:13] <Necrodoom> no build permission?
#1543 [11:16] <KATOFOX> i have permissions i'm admin and op
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#1545 [11:19] <KATOFOX> please can you help me :s
#1546 [11:20] <Necrodoom> whats your plugin list?
#1547 [11:20] <Calinou> KATOFOX, what plugins, server mods?
#1548 [11:20] <Calinou> you cannot build right next to spawn if you do not have op
#1549 [11:21] <KATOFOX> craftbuckit and worldedit
#1550 [11:21] <Calinou> any other plugins? like essentials?
#1551 [11:21] <Necrodoom> so, just worldedit?
#1552 [11:21] <KATOFOX> and some buckit plugins
#1553 [11:22] <Necrodoom> .
#1554 [11:22] <KATOFOX> tyes essentials
#1555 [11:22] <Necrodoom> list ALL of your plugins
#1556 [11:25] <KATOFOX> i can't have a list of all :/
#1557 [11:25] <Necrodoom> post your startup log
#1558 [11:27] <KATOFOX> i dont have access to the server files for the moment i'm not the principal admis :s
#1559 [11:27] <KATOFOX> but i can modify map with worldedit
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#1561 [11:27] <Necrodoom> cant help you with issue then
#1562 [11:28] <Necrodoom> doesnt sound like you have OP either
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#1568 [11:47] <megg1314> hi, my minecraft server works and alows me to join it...how ever other poeple cannot join to my server? my firewall is of and i have protforwarded for my laptop and my friend who is trying to connect? help please!
#1569 [11:52] <clarjon1> megg1314: can you pastebin your server config file?
#1570 [11:52] <clarjon1> server.properties
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#1575 [12:26] <AresScorpio> Good Evening
#1576 [12:26] <AresScorpio> i just reinstalled my VirtualServer and now i can't start my minecraft server anymore
#1577 [12:27] <AresScorpio> has anyone ideas why the server stopps working while initializing spawning area?
#1578 [12:33] <Morrolan> Suggest you move the world folder out of the server folder, to see whether it's caused by a corrupted world.
#1579 [12:34] <Morrolan> Also, any errors in the server console?
#1580 [12:36] <AresScorpio> it's a clean install no world initialized yet
#1581 [12:37] <AresScorpio> no just frozen, no response
#1582 [12:37] <AresScorpio> the machine has 3 gb ram (server will run only for 3-4 people so that shouldn't be the problem)
#1583 [12:38] <AresScorpio> do you think i should generate a world on my machine and upload everything?
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#1586 [12:39] <Morrolan> Nope, shouldn't be necessary.
#1587 [12:41] <megg1314> hi,my minecraft server works and alows me to join. however, it will not alow other to join it? why is this? i have protforwarded for my laptop and my friends who is trying to connect? and my firewall if off? help please!
#1588 [12:43] <AresScorpio> Morrolan is there any way to make the minecraft server logging everything?
#1589 [12:43] <Morrolan> Nope.
#1590 [12:43] <Morrolan> What do you see last in the console / serverlog before it freezes?
#1591 [12:44] <AresScorpio> differs a little
#1592 [12:44] <AresScorpio> most of the time: creating spawning area xx%
#1593 [12:45] <Morrolan> I assume it stays there, even if left for some time?
#1594 [12:45] <megg1314> Morrolan...how can i make my server allow people to join it?
#1595 [12:45] <AresScorpio> sometimes it comes to an end but if i press ? nothing happens
#1596 [12:45] <Morrolan> megg1314 - You'll have to forward port 25565, TCP.
#1597 [12:45] <AresScorpio> yes it does, cpu goes back to normal and nothing happens
#1598 [12:46] <Morrolan> Did you try connect once it is there?
#1599 [12:46] <megg1314> yh i have done this? i have portward my server ip and my friends server ip to 25565?
#1600 [12:46] <Morrolan> megg1314 - You need to forward port 25565 TCP to the internal IP of your computer.
#1601 [12:46] <Morrolan> Then your friends can connect to the external IP of yours.
#1602 [12:47] <AresScorpio> yep but server isn't shown as online
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#1605 [12:48] <megg1314> just TCP? because i port forwarded for both TCP and UDP?
#1606 [12:48] <Morrolan> No need to forward UDP as well.
#1607 [12:48] <megg1314> external ip? is that ip chicken?
#1608 [12:48] <Morrolan> It won't do any harm, but, well.
#1609 [12:48] <Morrolan> The external IP you can get from a site like ipchicken, yes.
#1610 [12:49] <AresScorpio> i also tried suns java and openjdk
#1611 [12:49] <megg1314> okay thank you. is that what other people have to entre when direct connecting to my server?
#1612 [12:49] <Morrolan> Yes, megg1314, they have to enter your external IP.
#1613 [12:50] <megg1314> okay thank you. i shall try that now.
#1614 [12:50] <Morrolan> AresScorpio - I'm kind of out of ideas I have to admit, I suggest you just stay here a bit, maybe someone else will have an idea..
#1615 [12:50] <AresScorpio> megg1314: you can connect via 127.0.0.1 everyone else on the internet has to youse your external ip except they'r in your LAN then they have to connect with the ip of your laptop (i.e. 192.168.1.x)
#1616 [12:51] <AresScorpio> ^^i'll thx anyway
#1617 [12:51] <AresScorpio> i'll try to restart the server and give minecraft an hour or two maybe time solves the problem
#1618 [12:51] <AresScorpio> ^^more time than i gave him yet
#1619 [12:54] <Ryladine> AresScorpio, I came in a bit late to hear your problem, could you explain it?
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#1621 [12:54] <AresScorpio> Everytime i try to start my minecraft server, it hangs while creating the spawning area
#1622 [12:55] <Ryladine> Have you tried loading the map into a different server to see if the issue still occurs? If it does its most likely file corruption.
#1623 [12:56] <megg1314> aresScorpio: i tryed that? but it states its "connecting to server" and then comes up with "failed to connect to server. connection timed out" what should i do?
#1624 [12:56] <AresScorpio> well it is a clean install, clean vserver (3gb ram, only for a few people) with cent os no world or anything
#1625 [12:57] <Ryladine> Try manually loading a world in, that may resolve your issue.
#1626 [12:57] <AresScorpio> okay i'll create a world on my machine and put it on the server
#1627 [12:57] <megg1314> it was all installed correctly. i dont see why it wouldnt work? anyother ideas?
#1628 [12:58] <Ryladine> megg1314, that error means the clients connection to the server failed, basicaly something is preventing data flow between you and the server, have you disabled your firewalls and ensured any nessecary forwarding has been done?
#1629 [12:59] <megg1314> my firewall is off and i have portforwarded for my laptop on 25565 ?
#1630 [12:59] <megg1314> i am trying to connecy with a laptop that is also connected to my internet?
#1631 [12:59] <megg1314> connect*
#1632 [12:59] <Ryladine> Are you the one running the server?
#1633 [13:00] <megg1314> yes..it is my server? i am trying to connect the other laptop in my home with my server?
#1634 [13:01] <Ryladine> Wait, you are connecting to the server from elsewhere and 25565 is forwarded to the machine your connecting with? 25565 should be forwarded to the machine hosting the server.
#1635 [13:03] <megg1314> we have two laptops in my home...both are forwarded to 25565? and i have created a server...my brother is trying to connect to my server of his laptop?
#1636 [13:04] <Ryladine> I'm sorry but what you just said should be impossible...... you can't forward a port to two different computers on the same network...
#1637 [13:04] <Ryladine> How exactly did you do that?
#1638 [13:04] <Ryladine> ACtually... forget that.
#1639 [13:05] <Ryladine> What is the IP to connect?
#1640 [13:05] <megg1314> hahahah i just added both ip for both computers on port forwarding?
#1641 [13:05] <megg1314> the ip to connect to my laptop?
#1642 [13:05] <Ryladine> Thats alright, you answered the question quite well with that. Your connecting internally then.
#1643 [13:06] <megg1314> yh i think so? but my server will not allow my brother (who is using my internet) to connect to it?
#1644 [13:06] <Ryladine> Can you tell me the IP he is connecting with?>
#1645 [13:07] <megg1314> his ip? or the ip he put into direct connect? sorry
#1646 [13:08] <Ryladine> The IP he is putting into the direct connect
#1647 [13:08] <megg1314> 192.168.1.13
#1648 [13:09] <Ryladine> Alright, now just to be sure, run ipconfig /all in the command prompt of the computer hosting the server, and make sure the ipv4 matches that.
#1649 [13:09] <megg1314> that ^ is what he is putting in?
#1650 [13:10] <megg1314> yh i have done that and it does :)
#1651 [13:10] <Ryladine> If the machine has rebooted or had its network reset it could have changed.
#1652 [13:10] <Ryladine> Please just humor me and check one more time.
#1653 [13:10] <megg1314> i will do...hang on
#1654 [13:10] * Eddie humoUrs Ryladine
#1654 [13:11] <Ryladine> lol
#1655 [13:11] <megg1314> yh it sez ip4:192.168.1.13
#1656 [13:12] <Ryladine> Alright, forwarding is out, you said you had your firewalls off, have you tried disabling your AV? It could be itnerfering if it has realtime protection, like AVG's resident shield.
#1657 [13:13] <megg1314> ohhh okay....i shall just try it now one momment
#1658 [13:13] <Ryladine> interfering**
#1659 [13:14] <megg1314> shall i turn my Adress Translation (NAT) off?
#1660 [13:15] <Ryladine> No
#1661 [13:15] <megg1314> ohh hahaha okay? i cannot find the AV?
#1662 [13:16] <Ryladine> Oh, I didn't mean in your router.
#1663 [13:16] <Ryladine> I meant on your computer.
#1664 [13:16] <Ryladine> The one hosting the server.
#1665 [13:16] <megg1314> ohhhh okay? where did you mean?
#1666 [13:16] <Ryladine> For the firewalls too.
#1667 [13:16] <megg1314> okay? how do i do that? sorry
#1668 [13:16] <Ryladine> The computer hosting the server, just try disabling any antivirus's and firewalls.
#1669 [13:17] <Ryladine> Hmm Its different depending on what your running, would you feel safe allowing me to use a remote connection to assist you?
#1670 [13:18] <megg1314> how do you do that? and will it harm my computer?
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#1672 [13:19] <Ryladine> I would simply have you download a program called teamviewer, it will give you a password and user when you run it that you can give to me with /msg, its absolutely harmless if you do not give out the connection information to people you do not trust, it only runs when you open it, and you can override my control at any time.
#1673 [13:21] <megg1314> im not too sure? do you work for minecraft?
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#1675 [13:22] <Ryladine> I'm a volunteer, no one in this channel works for minecraft. If you don't feel safe i can ask a number of questions to find out what I need as well.
#1676 [13:23] <megg1314> could we go with the questions? :P
#1677 [13:23] <Xaviergmail> STOP PINGING IN ALL CAPS STUPID BOT
#1678 [13:23] <Ryladine> Thats fine, its just going to take a bit more time to find out what your running.
#1679 [13:23] <Ryladine> Thats fine, its just going to take a bit more time to find out what your running.
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#1681 [13:23] <Ryladine> Did you ever install an antivirus that you know of
#1682 [13:23] <Ryladine> ?
#1683 [13:23] <megg1314> okay soryy...ask away?
#1684 [13:24] <megg1314> yes.
#1685 [13:24] <Ryladine> What was it called when you installed it, and did you ever remove it?>
#1686 [13:24] <megg1314> avast anti virus? i have never removed it.
#1687 [13:24] <Ryladine> Ah, avast.
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#1689 [13:25] <libraryaddict> How much damage does blocking reduce a hit by
#1690 [13:25] <megg1314> yhh avast?
#1691 [13:25] <Ryladine> That could easilly be your problem, did you isntall the free or the pro versions?
#1692 [13:25] <megg1314> its the one you have to pay for? but i had the free one first?
#1693 [13:26] <Ryladine> The paid version would have mostlikly overwritten the old free version, if you will give me a few moments I will locate instructions on disabling it for you.
#1694 [13:26] <Ryladine> most likely**
#1695 [13:26] <AresScorpio> Ryladine nothing happened after creating the world on lokal and uploading it
#1696 [13:27] <Ryladine> AresScorpio, it still froze? Are you using the default server software?
#1697 [13:27] <AresScorpio> yes
#1698 [13:27] <megg1314> okay thank you. when you say disableing it? do you mean it will no longer protect my computer?
#1699 [13:27] <AresScorpio> clean cent os 6, jre 7
#1700 [13:27] <Ryladine> Until you turn it back on yes, if we verify its causing the issue I can assist you with making the needed exceptions so you can turn it back on right away.
#1701 [13:28] <megg1314> okay thats fine.
#1702 [13:28] <megg1314> are you looking up how do disable it\
#1703 [13:28] <Ryladine> Oh no, I meant minecraft server software AresScorpio. Yes megg1314/
#1704 [13:28] <megg1314> okay...
#1705 [13:28] <AresScorpio> erm the one from minecraft.net
#1706 [13:30] <megg1314> Ryladine : let me know when you find out how to do it :)
#1707 [13:31] <Ryladine> Alright megg1314, if you go down to your taskbar and right-click the icon for avast you should see a button either to disable avast shields, or one labeled avast shields. I coudln't find anything specific enough to tell me exactly how to disable it from there but it should be a clear option, if you can't figure it out let me know.
#1708 [13:31] <Ryladine> AresScorpio, since the issue began have you tried changing the server software? Simply replacing it with a new copy from minecraft.net?
#1709 [13:32] <AresScorpio> sure a few time
#1710 [13:32] <AresScorpio> s
#1711 [13:32] <Ryladine> Hm I don't know that this could cause the issue specifically, but can you chmod the permissions for the map file to be 0777?
#1712 [13:34] <megg1314> okay...it sez ...."shields control" i click it and it pops up "disable for 10 minutes. disable for 1 hour. disable untill computer is restarted. disable perminantly."
#1713 [13:34] <megg1314> which one should i click?
#1714 [13:35] <Ryladine> Since this will be a quick test I would suggest 10 minutes.
#1715 [13:35] <megg1314> okay...ill just do that...
#1716 [13:35] <megg1314> okay done that
#1717 [13:35] <AresScorpio> one moment
#1718 [13:36] <Ryladine> megg1314, have your brother try to connect.
#1719 [13:36] <AresScorpio> atm its 755
#1720 [13:36] <megg1314> okay...one momment...
#1721 [13:36] <Ryladine> Go ahead and set it to 777, that way we can be sure all the possible permissions needed will be accessible to the server.
#1722 [13:37] <AresScorpio> i set the whole directory to 777
#1723 [13:37] <Ryladine> Alright, test it again.
#1724 [13:37] <AresScorpio> so from now on it shouldn't be a problem
#1725 [13:38] <Ryladine> If my theory is right, its possible the server can't do to the file what it needs to.
#1726 [13:39] <megg1314> nope...i tryed it amd it still wont connect?
#1727 [13:40] <AresScorpio> Ryladine: Preparing start region for level 0 - freeze
#1728 [13:40] <Ryladine> Hmm I'm afraid I'm out of ideas AresScorpio, something outside the server itself must be effecting it but I don't know enough about centos to be able to say what it could be.
#1729 [13:41] <AresScorpio> kay thx anyway
#1730 [13:41] <AresScorpio> i'll report any news
#1731 [13:41] <Ryladine> megg1314, you've not changed the port have you?
#1732 [13:41] <Ryladine> In the servers configs?
#1733 [13:42] <megg1314> Ryladine : i took my brothers computer of port forwarding?
#1734 [13:43] <AresScorpio> megg1314: can your brother ping your laptop and vice versa
#1735 [13:43] <Ryladine> That may help, though I can't say for certain.
#1736 [13:43] <megg1314> what do you mean 'ping' ?
#1737 [13:43] <AresScorpio> u'r on windows?
#1738 [13:44] <megg1314> yes i have windows 7?
#1739 [13:45] <megg1314> so does mt brother\\
#1740 [13:46] <megg1314> my*
#1741 [13:48] <Ryladine> Hmm following AresScorpio's train of though, you know how to open cmd so type "ping IP" into each computer, replacing IP with the internal ip of the computer your not running it on, and make sure the requests don't all timeout.
#1742 [13:49] <megg1314> okay...shall i do that on both laptops at the same time?
#1743 [13:50] <Ryladine> No, one at a time is fine.
#1744 [13:50] <megg1314> okay....i shall try that now..hang on
#1745 [13:51] <megg1314> i pinged my laptop from my brothers and it timed out after 3 seconds?
#1746 [13:51] <Ryladine> Alright so there is definitely something stopping him from connecting that way.
#1747 [13:52] <megg1314> yes? it alowed my laptop to ping his?
#1748 [13:53] <megg1314> could it be his anti virus?
#1749 [13:53] <Ryladine> No, not likely.
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#1751 [13:53] <megg1314> okay...do you have anyother ideas?
#1752 [13:53] <Ryladine> Something in your network is stopping it, but I can't think of what it could be.
#1753 [13:54] <Ryladine> Unless you have done something on your router or your computer to refuse those connections...
#1754 [13:54] <Ryladine> But routers are so different between each I can't even begin to say what it could be.
#1755 [13:55] <megg1314> okay...well thank you very much for all your help!
#1756 [13:55] <Morrolan> Checked Windows' network settings? E.g. whether it's set as a public instead of a private network?
#1757 [13:55] <Ryladine> I'm afraid your going to have to wait for someone with more experience in that side of netowrking... like morrolan here XD
#1758 [13:56] <Morrolan> Kinda on the run here, just thought I'd throw in a sentence or two. ^^
#1759 [13:56] <megg1314> how do i check the settings?
#1760 [13:56] <Morrolan> control panel -> network and sharing center
#1761 [13:57] <Morrolan> There the network should be set as either "Home network" or "Work network", but not as "public network".
#1762 [13:57] <Morrolan> e.g. the symbol should be a house/building and not a bench.
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#1764 [13:57] <megg1314> when i look at my internet connection it has a bench? is that what you mean?
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#1766 [13:59] <Alorran> I installed java, but when I tried to play the game it said the pixel format didn't accelerate. How do I fix that?
#1767 [13:59] <Morrolan> Yep, that's what I mean. Click on where it says "Public Network", select "Home network" and proceed, megg1314.
#1768 [13:59] <Morrolan> Alorran - Update your graphics card's driver.
#1769 [13:59] <Alorran> thanks
#1770 [14:00] <megg1314> it is set to public network...shall i change it to "home network" yes?
#1771 [14:02] <megg1314> is it asking me for a homegroup password?
#1772 [14:03] <megg1314> Morrolan : it is asking me for a homegroup password?
#1773 [14:03] <Alorran> what is the minimum my graphics card should be?
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#1775 [14:09] <megg1314> Morrolan??
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#1778 [14:12] <megg1314> does any one know where i can get my homegroup password?
#1779 [14:13] <Alorran> Nope. I looked at the homepage to see what the system requirements are, but didn't see how much I needed to upgrade my graphics driver.
#1780 [14:13] <Calinou> ???
#1781 [14:13] <Calinou> Alorran, use your vendor's website to install drivers, not windows update
#1782 [14:15] <Alorran> ok
#1783 [14:18] <kxta> new to minecraft, it brings my poor macbook air to its knees. I heard of optifine and I'm trying to figure out how to get that up and running. anyone have experience improving perf on os x?
#1784 [14:18] <Calinou> kxta, that's why you shouldn't buy macbooks ;)
#1785 [14:18] <Calinou> macs suck, imo. :P
#1786 [14:19] <Calinou> mods are a tad harder to install on mac, thanks to apple wanting a "easy-to-use" OS
#1787 [14:19] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-125-optifine-hd-b2-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and-much-more/
#1788 [14:19] <Calinou> ^ optifine. download the "standard" version, it is the most stable.
#1789 [14:19] <Calinou> the C1 preview should work fine
#1790 [14:20] <Calinou> direct link: http://optifined.net/adload.php?f=OptiFine_1.2.5_HD_C1.zip
#1791 [14:20] <Calinou> this mod boosts FPS, adds configuration options and HD texture support. it is *not* compatible with MCPatcher
#1792 [14:20] <kxta> I have no idea what MCPatcher is so I'm not worried about that
#1793 [14:21] <Calinou> mac installation instructions: http://pastebin.com/eMdd022y
#1794 [14:21] <Calinou> he's saying "copy the class files", don't forget the .png file too. :)
#1795 [14:21] <kxta> that seems pretty straight forward, you're pretty helpful
#1796 [14:22] <kxta> this machine is kinda old, and even at low settings the game is kind of a dog
#1797 [14:23] <Calinou> minecraft /is/ resource intensive contrary to common belief, the two main reasons are because it uses old openGL technologies (no VBOs and such), and because it draws a lot of polygons.
#1798 [14:23] <Calinou> the polygon issue cannot really be avoided, though.
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#1801 [14:26] <kxta> i did follow some tips to enable opengl via plist editing, but it didn't completely solve the problem
#1802 [14:27] <Guest25226> i can't get sound on my minecraft. i checks and i have the sound all the way up on the menu. i have a 32-bit
#1803 [14:27] <Calinou> uhhh, what do you mean, kxta?
#1804 [14:27] <Calinou> minecraft /requires/ opengl to function. ;) at least version 1.1, ideally 2.0 to use advanced opengl
#1805 [14:27] <Calinou> 1.2*
#1806 [14:27] <Calinou> Guest25226, what operating system/java version?
#1807 [14:28] <Guest25226> windows
#1808 [14:28] <Calinou> did you toy around with the files in the "natives" folder in .minecraft?
#1809 [14:28] <Guest25226> yup i changed the file openal64.dll to openal64.dll.bak
#1810 [14:28] <Guest25226> didn't work
#1811 [14:30] <Guest25226> i have the pre-release 12w21b not sure if thats the problem but even in regular minecraft there is no sound
#1812 [14:30] <Calinou> Guest25226, ...?
#1813 [14:30] <Calinou> delete your "bin" folder, restart minecraft.
#1814 [14:30] <Calinou> this will revert to the old LWJGL version.
#1815 [14:30] <Guest25226> alright
#1816 [14:32] <Guest25226> still no sound
#1817 [14:33] <Calinou> restart your computer, check your speaker/headphone connection, and volume in control panel.
#1818 [14:33] <Guest25226> the volume and all is on
#1819 [14:34] <Guest25226> im not sure if i just have an old version for sound
#1820 [14:35] <kxta> Calinou: I followed this https://twitter.com/headius/status/43840596011532288
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#1828 [15:10] <Troll_zama> hey
#1829 [15:11] <Troll_zama> noone?
#1830 [15:11] <Troll_zama> dang
#1831 [15:11] <Morrolan> Just ask your question, and you might get a response.
#1832 [15:11] <Morrolan> If you don't get one, wait longer. :D
#1833 [15:11] <Troll_zama> lol
#1834 [15:11] <Troll_zama> ok so im using new snapshot 12w22a or not so new i can never keep track
#1835 [15:12] <Troll_zama> i went back in ender portal and i cant stop credits now
#1836 [15:12] <Troll_zama> and they restart over and over
#1837 [15:12] <Troll_zama> and ive deleted title credits from every minecraft.jar i culd find on my computer
#1838 [15:12] <Calinou> Troll_zama, known issue, nothing to do
#1839 [15:13] <Troll_zama> so could i like try using a diffrent version
#1840 [15:13] <Calinou> kxta, "defaults to opengl off"
#1841 [15:13] <Calinou> seriously, that dude is an idiot
#1842 [15:13] <Calinou> minecraft does not have direct3d/software rendering
#1843 [15:13] <Calinou> if he means "advanced opengl", that option is some useless CPU/GPU eater
#1844 [15:13] <Calinou> because mojang cannot code their fortunately optional occlusion culling
#1845 [15:13] <Morrolan> Troll_zama - Seeing as how it got added in the last version, just use the version before that one, and you'll be fine.
#1846 [15:14] <Morrolan> Troll_zama - Wiki pages like http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions are pretty helpful when it comes to such issues.
#1847 [15:14] <Calinou> yeah but latest snapshot has a lot of new features. :P
#1848 [15:14] <Troll_zama> thanx for the help
#1849 [15:14] <Morrolan> Calinou - Don't spoil me. :è
#1850 [15:14] <Morrolan> :P*
#1851 [15:14] <Calinou> lol, azerty. :D
#1852 [15:14] <Troll_zama> i got side tracked from my best song recreation ever and now i cant finish it
#1853 [15:14] <Calinou> np
#1854 [15:15] <Morrolan> Calinou - Nah, Swiss QWERTZ, but the è is next to the P on that one too. :)
#1855 [15:15] <Calinou> k
#1856 [15:15] <Calinou> lol I was afk on minecraft, got killed by a slime.
#1857 [15:16] <Calinou> I see myself sideways... had debug menu on
#1858 [15:16] <Calinou> 148-149FPS constantly
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#1860 [15:27] <sharkshank> Anybody else having issues with logging in?
#1861 [15:27] <sharkshank> Anybody else having issues with logging in?
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#1863 [15:36] <Calinou> !login
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#1865 [15:51] <zkxs> Wait... advanced openGL is notchfail occlusion culling?
#1866 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1867 [15:52] <zkxs> Here I was thinking it was just a nice lag switch
#1868 [15:54] <Calinou> yep
#1869 [15:54] <zkxs> Why couldn't they have given that option a label that makes sense, like "occlusion culling" >:(
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#1871 [15:56] <zkxs> In fact, in NotchFont, "Occlusion Culling" is actually shorter than "Advanced OpenGL"
#1872 [15:56] <ProffesorSteve> What are the ports to open for MineCraft?
#1873 [15:56] <zkxs> 25565
#1874 [15:56] <Morrolan> TCP, that is.
#1875 [15:56] <ProffesorSteve> So this will make an exception to that port to the router to host a server?
#1876 [15:57] <zkxs> Yes. You may also need to make an exception in your firewall.
#1877 [15:57] <Morrolan> It will tell the router to relay any connection made on port 25565 to your computer.
#1878 [15:57] <ProffesorSteve> This is my friend i dont know if he has a firewall
#1879 [15:58] <Morrolan> It's not so much of an exception, as more of a sign post.
#1880 [16:00] <ProffesorSteve> so not the other kind? Just TCP
#1881 [16:00] <Morrolan> Yes, only TCP, it doesn't use UDP.
#1882 [16:01] <Calinou> #unfortunately
#1883 [16:01] <Calinou> also, it's Minecraft not MineCraft
#1884 [16:01] * Calinou would better have packet loss but less lag
#1884 [16:03] <zkxs> UDP is no fun to program in
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#1886 [16:03] <Morrolan> Ask Wug, he'll be happy to confirm. ^^
#1887 [16:04] <zkxs> My senior project for my engineering class was to make a telepresence robot, and I started out using UDP
#1888 [16:04] <Calinou> bleh, TCP sucks.
#1889 [16:04] <zkxs> Against the advice of everyone in #minecraft :P it didn't go well, so I had to switch to TCP
#1890 [16:05] <Calinou> it's also minecraft servers' fault
#1891 [16:05] <Calinou> "hey, make that chicken 120 blocks away from this afk player move!"
#1892 [16:05] <Calinou> "hey, simulate ALL the things 20 times a second!"
#1893 [16:05] <Calinou> "hey, send player positions 20 times a second ever though it neer works! yay!"
#1894 [16:05] <Calinou> (you don't even see chickens that are more than 32 blocks away from you)
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#1896 [16:05] <zkxs> What, he does everything 20 times a second?
#1897 [16:06] <Calinou> yeah. you send 20 move packets a second, way too much
#1898 [16:06] <Calinou> minetest, for example only sends 5, but interpolates much more
#1899 [16:06] <Calinou> minecraft is a CPU/RAM/bandwidth raper for this reason.
#1900 [16:06] <zkxs> That is crazy. I sent my robot 9 packets a second
#1901 [16:06] <Calinou> better than TF2 at least. (lols)
#1902 [16:06] <zkxs> Total
#1903 [16:07] <zkxs> (Mainly because 10 packets a second freaked out my arduino)
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#1919 [17:12] <foofighter24> My friend is trying to buy MC from Illinois but he can't, although me and a lot of my friends have bought from IL, any help?
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#1928 [17:48] <jjkoletar> Hey, anyone ever seen a spam attack with just a massive attempt to have false players join?
#1929 [17:48] <jjkoletar> Cuz it's happening to my server :E
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#1931 [17:51] <sharkshank> So what was up with the servers last night?
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#1952 [18:36] <kiddk02> Hey, is anyone having a problem connecting to Minecraft?
#1953 [18:37] <superkabii> !login
#1954 [18:38] <kiddk02> I've been getting login failed for like two days now, and I changed my password and everything. Still login failed
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#1956 [18:40] <xales> kiddk02: Login Failed would indicate that your username or password is incorrect. ._.
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#1964 [19:01] <FiZz> Does anyone know when the login servers will be back up or why they are down?
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#1966 [19:03] <FiZz> :(
#1967 [19:05] <FiZz> is anyone actually here?
#1968 [19:07] <FiZz> ok then
#1969 [19:07] <FiZz> ok then
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#1972 [19:35] <Flatline> I appologize if this is the wrong place to ask but has anybody successfully purchased minecraft or game card today?
#1973 [19:36] <xales> Flatline: Is there a specific problem you are experiencing?
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#1975 [19:37] <Flatline> Situation is, I have the game. Trying to get my friend setup. I tried a couple different cards, debit and credit, and got the 24 hour lockout error...so I went to the store, bought a green dot card, funded my paypal account and that won't go through either
#1976 [19:38] <Flatline> I don't remember having this much problem during the purchase
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#1978 [19:39] <Guest___> Hey
#1979 [19:39] <Guest___> slimes are not spawning in my slime room..it's 16x16x8...it's a slime chunk..and I sit about 30 blocks away..
#1980 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> slimes only spawn in certain chunks
#1981 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> There is a slime spawning calculator that can tell you where slimes will spawn based on your particular seed
#1982 [19:40] <Guest___> I know...I verified that this is a slime chunk..I had a tiny slime spawn in there once..
#1983 [19:41] <Guest___> but I have waited like 2 hour..and no slime spawns..
#1984 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> Something's not right then, is it. Have you passed the map on to someone else for confirmation?
#1985 [19:42] <xales> Flatline: If you are having some sort of 24-hour lockout, perhaps wait 24 hours then?
#1986 [19:42] <Guest___> how would I go about doing that?
#1987 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> What laver is the spawning room at?
#1988 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> *layer
#1989 [19:42] <Guest___> level 6
#1990 [19:42] <Guest___> layer*
#1991 [19:43] <Guest___> basically bed rock..the top layer of bed rock
#1992 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> Well that's way below required, anything below 40 is good
#1993 [19:43] <Guest___> and I sit at layer 34
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#1995 [19:43] <Guest___> I know..but I just decided to do it at that layer
#1996 [19:43] <Flatline> It's a common lockout. I have been researching this all over the internet. I don't really have a choice on the waiting. With being out of options I thought I would stop in here to see if this was a larger issue that more people were having
#1997 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> it's a unique issue for now
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#1999 [19:44] <Xaviergmail> how many blocks away from a player do name labels appear in smp?
#2000 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> Flatline: What's the seed for your map, and at what coords have you placed your room?
#2001 [19:45] <Guest___> you mean Guest___? :P
#2002 [19:45] <Flatline> That's Guest___'s map
#2003 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> yes, guest pardon
#2004 [19:46] <Guest___> give me a second
#2005 [19:47] <Guest___> the seed# isn't showing up in F3
#2006 [19:47] <Guest___> I need to go look at the level.dat..give me asecond
#2007 [19:47] <Guest___> I need to go look at the level.dat..give me asecond
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#2009 [19:52] <Guest___> -5954372213993235782
#2010 [19:53] <Guest___> the coords are X: 127 Z: 176
#2011 [19:54] <Guest___> to X: 144 Z: 160
#2012 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> TA
#2013 [19:54] <Guest___> TA?
#2014 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Yes, ta, as in the English informal way of saying thanks.
#2015 [19:55] <Guest___> I got ya!
#2016 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> I've just cleared away a 16x16x3 room in that area, at level 6, so now to sit back and let the science begin
#2017 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> I'll take it to 6 high as well
#2018 [20:07] <Guest___> haha alright sounds good
#2019 [20:08] <Guest___> do you think I have too many mobs spawned?
#2020 [20:08] <DiskDaemon> By the way, are you in peaceful mode?
#2021 [20:08] <Guest___> nope
#2022 [20:08] <Guest___> hard
#2023 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> good one
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#2026 [20:22] <Guest___> any luck diskdaemon?
#2027 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> the science contines
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#2029 [20:25] <Caden> Hey folks, I'm trying to set up a server but my friends can't access it. We are all on the same network, and I am using my internal ip.
#2030 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> I believe that setting online-mode to false can help with that
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#2033 [20:49] <Guest___> still no slimes...BAH
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#2040 [21:50] <Harnum> Hello?
#2041 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Hello.
#2042 [21:51] <Harnum> How are you?
#2043 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> As well as to be expected.
#2044 [21:51] <Harnum> I have a question regarding Minecraft
#2045 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> We have answers.
#2046 [21:51] <Harnum> Are you here to help?
#2047 [21:51] <Harnum> Awesome.
#2048 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#2049 [21:51] <Harnum> I am Canadian and looking to purchase the game via PayPal
#2050 [21:52] <Harnum> I was just curious if the cost is actually straight up $26.95, or are there any hidden duties or taxes included in the price?
#2051 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> There are no hidden costs.
#2052 [21:52] <GreyVulpine> It's a one time cost of 26.95.
#2053 [21:53] <Harnum> No tax, no duties? Just straight forward $26.95
#2054 [21:53] <Harnum> Awesome
#2055 [21:53] * GreyVulpine nods
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#2056 [21:53] <Harnum> Another thing... when I select PayPal, my price is displayed in Euros
#2057 [21:53] <Harnum> That will automatically convert to CAD when I select the PayPal option?
#2058 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Paypal will do the conversion for you automatically
#2059 [21:53] <Harnum> Sweet deal.
#2060 [21:54] <Harnum> Thanks so much man, you are very helpful!
#2061 [21:54] * GreyVulpine tips hat.
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#2066 [22:41] <brookie> Hey can someone help me my email was hacked a long time ago. So i don't know password or anything and i wanna change it because my friends account for minecraft got hacked and i don't want the same to happen to me with no recovery options can i please change my email ?
#2067 [22:42] <brookie> Who should i email to help me.
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