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#6 [00:48] <M1n3cr4ftr> yo i just saw that java is on version 7.4, is it safe to update it, like is minecraft compatible <3
#7 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft is designed for 6 but works with 7. The Classic version won't work with 7
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#9 [01:06] <Minecrafter> I run on the newest java
#10 [01:07] <DiskDaemon> newer is brittle
#11 [01:33] <Eddie> brittle with Minecraft
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#12 [01:40] <DopeGhoti> !topic insert RIP, Ray Bradbury
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#28 [03:59] <SilentSovereign> Okay, so I have a question...
#29 [04:00] <SilentSovereign> I have Windows 7, just got my comp like 3 days ago and made sure to update my Java before even downloading the launcher...
#30 [04:01] <rev-lemon> SilentSovereign so whats the trouble ?
#31 [04:01] <SilentSovereign> And yet I still have the gray screen of Nohcann Plae (No Can Play)
#32 [04:01] <rev-lemon> ??< SilentSovereign win/dxdiag
#33 [04:01] <SilentSovereign> Say again?
#34 [04:01] <rev-lemon> ??< silentsovereggnSilentSovereign win/dxdiag
#35 [04:01] <rev-lemon> ??> silentsovereggnSilentSovereign win/dxdiag
#36 [04:01] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#37 [04:01] <VoxelHead> silentsovereggnSilentSovereign: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#38 [04:02] <rev-lemon> lol
#39 [04:02] <VoxelHead> silentsovereggnSilentSovereign: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#40 [04:02] <Calinou> rev-lemon, don't complicate it
#41 [04:02] <rev-lemon> dang
#42 [04:02] <Calinou> SilentSovereign, tried using the .jar launcher? java 7 I presume?
#43 [04:02] <Calinou> try downgrading to java 6 (64 bit if you're on a 64 bit OS)
#44 [04:03] <Calinou> the .jar launcher is the launcher marked as "linux/other"
#45 [04:04] <SilentSovereign> Hang on, lets slow down a bit...
#46 [04:05] <SilentSovereign> So, What's all this about the .jar launcher? I just downloaded the .exe and ran it.
#47 [04:05] <SilentSovereign> When I tried logging in on the gray screen launcher, it said "cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#48 [04:07] <SilentSovereign> http://pastebin.com/1q3gLXgM
#49 [04:08] <rev-lemon> Driver Date/Size: 3/25/2011 21:17:46, 7473664 bytes / Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
#50 [04:08] <SilentSovereign> That's bad, I take it?
#51 [04:08] <rev-lemon> well not entierly but its a driver from 2011
#52 [04:08] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall java completely, reinstall java 6 from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html
#53 [04:09] <SilentSovereign> That's the only way to fix it?
#54 [04:09] <GreyVulpine> There's actually a few causes of the grey screen/can't connect to minecraft.net
#55 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Do you get text in the top portion of the launcher?
#56 [04:10] <SilentSovereign> Yeah, some form of HTML looking stuff...
#57 [04:10] <GreyVulpine> Then yup, it's java 7. Uninstall it, reinstall 6
#58 [04:11] <SilentSovereign> Anything I should know about uninstalling it...? Because I tried doing it myself earlier and... well, to quote Louis the Gator: "It didn't end well."
#59 [04:12] <SilentSovereign> I corrupted the fx-runtime thing.
#60 [04:14] <SilentSovereign> Oh, and of those, which one do I pick? There's four Windows options, but only one is 64-bit, but I don't know if I necessarily need that one.
#61 [04:14] <SilentSovereign> I feel so old... and I'm not even in my twenties yet!
#62 [04:18] <SilentSovereign> GreyVulpine, are you still there?
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#64 [04:21] <Calinou> "Intel(R) HD Graphics Family"
#65 [04:21] <Calinou> integrated graphics don't run minecraft well
#66 [04:21] <Calinou> <_<
#67 [04:22] <SilentSovereign> It's all I got... So, just download the Java6 file from that link and then... run it?
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#69 [04:22] <Calinou> are you on a 64 bit OS?
#70 [04:22] <Calinou> erm, just seen it, yes
#71 [04:22] <Calinou> SilentSovereign, use the offline installation, very important
#72 [04:23] <SilentSovereign> I don't see a 64-bit file for Offline or Online specifically.
#73 [04:23] <Calinou> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#74 [04:23] <Calinou> <_< no java 6 link
#75 [04:23] <SilentSovereign> I'm on this link: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html
#76 [04:24] <Calinou> ah okay, should work here
#77 [04:24] <Calinou> choose windows x64
#78 [04:25] <SilentSovereign> All right, it's downloaded. Run it?
#79 [04:25] <Calinou> yes.
#80 [04:26] <SilentSovereign> ...
#81 [04:27] <SilentSovereign> Well, uh... I ran it and it installed... Do I need to do anything else?
#82 [04:28] <SilentSovereign> Nevermind. Ran the minecraft.exe and it's working beautifully!
#83 [04:28] <SilentSovereign> Thanks guys. You were all a tremendous help!
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#87 [04:52] <zabuldog> hi there, I need help with my account, didn't get any answer from the minecraft support from a month, can someone help me ?
#88 [04:52] <rev-lemon> depends on the problem
#89 [04:52] <GreyVulpine> As nobody works for Mojang here, we have no access to account information
#90 [04:57] <zabuldog> oh, that's pity, just to describe my problem , somehow I have mapped 2 different mails to my account - with one I've bough the game ( I have confirmation mail and transation id ), the second one, I guess, is the email I registered the account somewhere in the past. Now with the browser I made my payement, when I log in to the minecraft.net I can see my account is premium. WIth any other browser I can see the other mail ( the same
#91 [04:57] <zabuldog> login/pass ) and the account not premium message.
#92 [04:59] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, there's nothing we can do about that. Mojang's the only one who can straighten that out for you
#93 [05:00] <zabuldog> damn, so there is no hope, I've just checked, they have like 5 people in the support center and millions of users
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#105 [06:15] <mark_b> ehem, it has been over a year waiting for a reply off Mojang to help me with my 'mark_b' hacked account. They seem to be useless, maybe you guys could help me recover my stolen account
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#107 [06:16] <AuroraTree> mark_b: We can try our best, but no-one here actually works for Mojang, so we don't have access to passwords, emails etc.
#108 [06:17] <lutzee> ._. surely the bank statement from which you paid, the old password and email address whould be enough to get our account back
#109 [06:18] <mark_b> well, it happened when the console of servers showed the password of players
#110 [06:18] <mark_b> so they could change the password and then have it stolen from me
#111 [06:19] <AuroraTree> Well, how did you buy your account?
#112 [06:19] <lutzee> O.o i don't think that would have happened, password handshake is between mojang and you client, not the server you connect to
#113 [06:20] <lutzee> server you connect to only goes to mojang to get character data like skin
#114 [06:20] <AuroraTree> That would be a very big coding flaw xD.
#115 [06:22] <mark_b> back in 2011 there was a hack for beta servers that when someone connects to that server the details would show in the console, it was fixed and showed in the minecraft wiki but does not show anymore as it does not happen anymore, also isn't supported by mojang anymore for stolen account
#116 [06:22] <mark_b> not every server
#117 [06:22] <mark_b> maybe 10-20 servers had access to this hack
#118 [06:23] <AuroraTree> mark_b: How did you buy your account?
#119 [06:23] <mark_b> through the minecraft page
#120 [06:23] <lutzee> What payment method?
#121 [06:23] <mark_b> paypal
#122 [06:23] <AuroraTree> I mean PayPal/visa
#123 [06:24] <mark_b> yes, paypal, how would this info help ?
#124 [06:25] <AuroraTree> Well, if you go to your PayPal payment log and find the payment, you can use that as evidence and claim your account back from Mojang.
#125 [06:25] <AuroraTree> Chances are your ticket was lost, so they haven't replied to you.
#126 [06:25] <AuroraTree> But if you have proof of purchase, they can reset your password.
#127 [06:25] <lutzee> Yeah, the proof of purchase is undisputed evidence you own the account
#128 [06:27] <mark_b> Thank you very much guys!
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#136 [07:15] <doblez> Hello is anyone avaible for help?
#137 [07:15] <Necrodoom> ask
#138 [07:16] <AuroraTree> Shure, whatcha need?
#139 [07:16] <doblez> My problem is that i cant connect to minecraft.net, i've tried reinstalling java, disabling the java firewall, a restarting the computer :)
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#141 [07:17] <Calinou> !login
#142 [07:17] <Calinou> what operating system/java version? try using the .jar launcher (marked as "linux/other" on the download page)
#143 [07:17] <Calinou> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#144 [07:18] <doblez> ill paste an error log from the jar file :) Let me have a sec :)
#145 [07:18] <AuroraTree> Do a pastie instead, don't paste the whole error log.
#146 [07:19] <doblez> Whats a pastie?
#147 [07:19] <Timmooo> www.pastebin.com
#148 [07:19] <doblez> Yeah that was what i was going to do :)
#149 [07:19] <Timmooo> ^^
#150 [07:19] <doblez> http://mibpaste.com/2oNKQ8
#151 [07:20] <Necrodoom> java version?
#152 [07:20] <doblez> http://pastebin.com/8eLFnaPY for the original pastebin :)
#153 [07:20] <doblez> java 7 update 4
#154 [07:20] <doblez> windows 7 64-bit
#155 [07:20] <Calinou> try to downgrade to java 6, might work better
#156 [07:20] <AuroraTree> It is a premium account right?
#157 [07:20] <doblez> both 32-bit and 64-bit :)
#158 [07:20] <doblez> !paid doblez
#159 [07:20] <Calinou> java 7 is glitchy with minecraft sometimes
#160 [07:20] <Calinou> do not install both java 32 bit and 64 bit, only 64 bit
#161 [07:20] <doblez> it is paid for :)
#162 [07:20] <doblez> Then i cant use my browser
#163 [07:21] <AuroraTree> Wat
#164 [07:21] <doblez> and it worked fine 2 days ago, but yesterday it bugged
#165 [07:21] <Calinou> java isn't required to browse the internet, no
#166 [07:21] <AuroraTree> You installed 32 and 64?
#167 [07:21] <Calinou> doblez, did you toy around with java settings?
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#169 [07:21] <doblez> i know, but i want java in my browser too, and chrome is only avaible in 32-bit.. :(
#170 [07:21] <doblez> no i didnty
#171 [07:21] <Acension1987> hello i need help
#172 [07:22] <Necrodoom> Acension1987: ask
#173 [07:22] <Acension1987> i went on to detention centre server and its just a black screen?
#174 [07:22] <AuroraTree> Acension1987: Whats the problem?
#175 [07:22] <Necrodoom> Acension1987: wut
#176 [07:22] <AuroraTree> Don't go on the detention server.
#177 [07:22] <AuroraTree> :3
#178 [07:22] <Acension1987> ok why not ?
#179 [07:22] <AuroraTree> I'm kidding.
#180 [07:22] <AuroraTree> Try restarting.
#181 [07:22] <Acension1987> have
#182 [07:22] <Acension1987> also tried direct connect
#183 [07:22] <Calinou> killion detention center? that server sucks
#184 [07:22] <lutzee> It seems safe to have java6 32 bit and java 7 64 bit installed at the same time..
#185 [07:23] <Acension1987> yeah and lol its ok
#186 [07:23] <Calinou> about 100-200 players usually, the game is VERY slow due to the amount of polygons to render
#187 [07:23] <Necrodoom> doblez: it wont run with both javas, i think
#188 [07:23] <AuroraTree> Go onto their website and ask.
#189 [07:23] <Calinou> due to mojang's incapability to code properly
#190 [07:23] <Calinou> "VBOs? what's that"
#191 [07:23] <doblez> It worked perfectly 2 days ago, and had been working perfect for over a year
#192 [07:23] <AuroraTree> Killion = p2p = ._.
#193 [07:23] <Acension1987> thats why i lik it :P
#194 [07:23] <Acension1987> its pvp :P
#195 [07:23] <Calinou> pvp is fine, but too many cheaters
#196 [07:23] <Acension1987> also
#197 [07:24] <Acension1987> i have registered to minebuzz and went to the auth server
#198 [07:24] <AuroraTree> I mean pay to play.
#199 [07:24] <Acension1987> and it didnt kick and give me the auth code
#200 [07:24] <AuroraTree> I hate servers where you buy money.
#201 [07:24] <Calinou> killion isn't p2p AuroraTree
#202 [07:24] <AuroraTree> It's just .-.
#203 [07:24] <AuroraTree> They spam you with donate msgs.
#204 [07:24] <Acension1987> any one able to help with the auth server?
#205 [07:25] <Calinou> "went to the auth server" > what do you mean?
#206 [07:25] <Acension1987> when you reg for minebuzz
#207 [07:25] <Acension1987> it gives a server address to log into in game
#208 [07:25] <Acension1987> it should kick and give a auth code
#209 [07:25] <Acension1987> it didnt
#210 [07:25] <Necrodoom> contact them, not us.
#211 [07:25] <Acension1987> do either
#212 [07:25] <Acension1987> ok
#213 [07:26] <doblez> So no one has a clue about my problem?
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#215 [07:28] <doblez> !help
#216 [07:28] <Necrodoom> doblez: use one version of java
#217 [07:28] <Necrodoom> not both
#218 [07:29] <doblez> it still doesnt work.....
#219 [07:29] <Calinou> doblez, tried using the .jar launcher?
#220 [07:29] <Calinou> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar < download this, double click it. if it is opened using an archive manager: right click > open with > "java"
#221 [07:29] <doblez> Yes and i posted the error log
#222 [07:30] <doblez> it still doesnt work
#223 [07:31] <Calinou> doblez, I've never seen that kind of error. :/
#224 [07:32] <lutzee> Its a java error, not anything to do with minecraft
#225 [07:32] <Calinou> maybe in java settings, there is a way to bypass those security restrictions (are those even security restrictions?), do it at your own risk though
#226 [07:32] <doblez> Yeah but need help with the java error....
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#230 [07:51] <Axx> Hey guys. New to minecraft and I'm trying to set up survival island for me and my friend to play. I set up the server and my friend can connect to a normal map but I'm not sure how to get to the Survival Island save
#231 [07:52] <lutzee> Asumed zip download, unxip the file and you should get a save folder for the map, copy that folder to the server directory and set the world in the server config to the name of that folder
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#233 [07:59] <Axx> The only folder I have in terms of the Server is called 'World', do I unzip the save into there?
#234 [07:59] <lutzee> you can, delete the contents of it first, also you probably need to move the contents of the folder in the zip to that folder
#235 [08:00] <lutzee> not the folder you get from the zip
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#237 [08:02] <Axx> Aha yes, I can see now the contents of the save folder which I just unzipped have 'data' and 'region' files
#238 [08:06] <Axx> Where can I find the server config?
#239 [08:06] <Necrodoom> at the server launcher folder
#240 [08:08] <Axx> Ahh! My friend just jioned my server and apparently it is survival island already
#241 [08:08] <Axx> it seems it worked
#242 [08:08] <Axx> Thanks for your help
#243 [08:09] <lutzee> yeah, as server is set up to read the world from the "world" folder by default
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#245 [08:14] <Axx> Hey guys, sorry to be such a noob
#246 [08:14] <Axx> The Xbox version of MC is much easier :P
#247 [08:14] <Axx> Neither of us can destroy any blocks
#248 [08:14] <Necrodoom> are you near spawn?
#249 [08:14] <lutzee> Server has spawn protection arround spawn...
#250 [08:15] <lutzee> er i think theres a setting in the config for that?
#251 [08:15] <Axx> Ok let me see
#252 [08:16] <Axx> terrain saving? is that it?
#253 [08:17] <lutzee> first thing, spawnprotection-size, set it to 0 i think....
#254 [08:18] <Axx> Hmm, my list of commands is very small. Im running the .exe
#255 [08:19] <lutzee> mmm?
#256 [08:19] <lutzee> The basic server has very few commands
#257 [08:21] <Axx> This is the one I downloaded alongside the game from the minecraft website. Is there a better way to set up a server? Maybe I can get server config you speak of?
#258 [08:21] <Necrodoom> if you want more commands
#259 [08:21] <Necrodoom> get bukkit
#260 [08:21] <Necrodoom> http://bukkit.org/
#261 [08:21] <Calinou> <Axx> The Xbox version of MC is much easier :P < too bad
#262 [08:21] <lutzee> the server config is called server.properties, it is in the same directory as the exe
#263 [08:22] <Calinou> <lutzee> first thing, spawnprotection-size, set it to 0 i think.... < vanilla server doesn't have that
#264 [08:22] <lutzee> Calinou, damn forge...
#265 [08:22] <Calinou> Axx, op yourself in the console: "op your_username" without quotes
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#267 [08:22] <lutzee> ( iwas worried it was forge)
#268 [08:22] <James00601602> hello everyone
#269 [08:23] <Necrodoom> hi
#270 [08:24] <James00601602> Is this a good place for mod assis?
#271 [08:24] <Necrodoom> what kind of mod
#272 [08:24] <James00601602> RedPower
#273 [08:24] <Axx> Opping worked! We can smash things
#274 [08:25] <Axx> Thanks a lot
#275 [08:25] <James00601602> lol
#276 [08:25] <lutzee> James00601602, #redpower
#277 [08:25] <Necrodoom> nope, jame
#278 [08:25] <Axx> Probably be back here soon when I'm stuck again :P
#279 [08:25] <James00601602> I must be stupid or something because I simple can't get this to work
#280 [08:26] <lutzee> James00601602, do /join #redpower
#281 [08:30] <Calinou> ragequit
#282 [08:31] <lutzee> ?? he's in #redpower now :p
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#284 [08:42] <Derp> Can anyone tell me how to buy minecraft when you have no credit card, paypal doesnt work, and mojang doesnt accept my bank data stuff?
#285 [08:43] <Derp> Im trying to buy the game for months, but stupid mojang just doesnt want my money, they rater spend their time working on anti piracy stuff XD
#286 [08:43] <Necrodoom> ask parents?
#287 [08:43] <Calinou> no they don't work on anti piracy stuff
#288 [08:43] <Calinou> you can use paypal, however not for buying gift codes
#289 [08:44] <Derp> paypal doesnt work
#290 [08:44] <Derp> thats why i asked for another way
#291 [08:44] <Calinou> reason?
#292 [08:45] <Derp> reason is, i am not registrated at paypal, but when i register, they say that i am already registered. same thing for ALL of my friends XD
#293 [08:46] <Derp> so stupid you cant pay with normal methods like sms or paysafecard....
#294 [08:47] <DiskDaemon> You can pay with Visa or Mastercard or even American Express I believe
#295 [08:47] <Derp> Sure, lets get a credit card, just to buy minecraft ^^
#296 [08:48] <DiskDaemon> Or with paypal, which can be tied directly with your bank account
#297 [08:48] <Derp> nope, cant connect paypal with anything because the registration there is broken
#298 [08:48] <DiskDaemon> Or you can have someone else buy a gift code for you
#299 [08:49] <Derp> no matter hwat i type in, they say i am already registered
#300 [08:49] <DiskDaemon> Is it a problem that you are already registered?
#301 [08:49] <Derp> they say i did, but they say that for everyone i tried to register
#302 [08:50] <Derp> nobody i know has paypal, but when i type in their stuff, paypal says they are registered
#303 [08:51] <Derp> i dont get why they offer you paying per bank account, but no matter what you type there, it doesnt work
#304 [08:51] <DiskDaemon> Your computer has a program called psr which is a problem steps recorder. Would you mind using that to record what happens for us?
#305 [08:53] <Derp> what do you want me to record for you? typing in my bank data? XD
#306 [08:53] <Derp> come on, there must be another way to buy minecraft
#307 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> paypal, visa, mastercard, american express, or as a gift that someone else buys for you
#308 [08:54] <Derp> i cant believe notch is cring because of everyone getting minecraft for free, but doesnt offer a payment method, that is not broken
#309 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> That's plenty of options there
#310 [08:54] <Necrodoom> ask parents, maybe
#311 [08:54] <Necrodoom> to buy you with credit card
#312 [08:54] <Derp> why would my parents have a credit card? oO
#313 [08:54] <Derp> we have real money XD
#314 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> Notch doesn't take real money
#315 [08:55] <Derp> yea, and i dont understand why he makes everyone remove the free minecraft versions, but doesnt take our money XD
#316 [08:55] <Derp> its like, giving out a demo, but never selling the real game XD
#317 [08:55] <DiskDaemon> Would you like to understand?
#318 [08:55] <Derp> yea, tell me why he doent take my money
#319 [08:56] <DiskDaemon> Because it causes too much trouble for him
#320 [08:56] <Derp> yea, because getting a sms or paysafe pyment method is soooooo hard ^^
#321 [08:56] <DiskDaemon> That's the way things are.
#322 [08:57] <Necrodoom> SMS payment method?
#323 [08:57] <lutzee> Derp, your parents must have a debit card... they can't keep money stacked up arround the house
#324 [08:57] <Necrodoom> lolwut
#325 [08:57] <Necrodoom> just ask your parents, lol
#326 [08:57] <Derp> why would i ask 2 60 year old dorks?
#327 [08:57] <DiskDaemon> Derp: Are you willing to deposit your real money directly in to my bank account?
#328 [08:58] <Derp> the only cards they have is romme, or however that card game is called XD
#329 [08:58] <Necrodoom> derp: no reason a person over 18 shouldnt have a credit card
#330 [08:58] <Necrodoom> or 21, depends on country
#331 [08:58] <lutzee> derp, are you telling me you family gets through life without any form of bank account?
#332 [08:58] <Derp> why would anyone have a credit card? i dont know anyone who has one, and nobody i know, knows someone with a credit card :P
#333 [08:59] <Derp> why would you need a card for you bank?
#334 [08:59] <DiskDaemon> Derp: Forget credit cards. Are you willing to deposit your real money directly in to my bank account?
#335 [08:59] <lutzee> O_o
#336 [08:59] <Derp> you only need the card to get you uhm...
#337 [08:59] <Derp> those papers, with the balance on it
#338 [08:59] <Derp> bank logs?
#339 [08:59] <Derp> thats all you need the card for
#340 [08:59] <Necrodoom> .
#341 [08:59] <lutzee> You use them to take money out of an atm? O.o
#342 [08:59] <Necrodoom> derp: mind if i quote you?
#343 [08:59] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that we can be of any more help for Derp here.
#344 [08:59] <Derp> thanks for the offer disk, but i dont think thats a very smart idea for me ^^
#345 [09:00] <Derp> who needs atm? i have a bank right next to me with talking human individuals :P
#346 [09:00] <lutzee> ...
#347 [09:00] <DiskDaemon> I have five alpha gift codes, one has been passed on to someone else, 4 are waiting for a good owner. I'm not eager to pass one of the on, but they are available should the need present itself
#348 [09:01] <lutzee> Okay, you can even pay via direct bank transfer
#349 [09:01] <Derp> no, mojang always says "there was a problem whatever... try again"
#350 [09:01] <lutzee> okay, have you even contacted mojang support?
#351 [09:02] <Necrodoom> basically, you deny everything that work
#352 [09:02] <Necrodoom> due to unknown problems that no one has
#353 [09:02] <Derp> i am contacting the only support i could find on their page right now
#354 [09:02] <Necrodoom> yes?
#355 [09:02] <Derp> mojang says you are the support
#356 [09:02] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#357 [09:02] <DiskDaemon> Please link us to the page where Mojang say we are the support
#358 [09:03] <Derp> #MineCraftHelp on irc.esper.net - Help and support from community members.
#359 [09:03] <Derp> minecraft.net, click on cummunity
#360 [09:03] <Derp> there it is
#361 [09:03] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here is official - we provide volunteer help from the goodness of our heart
#362 [09:04] <Derp> there is no other usefull help on minecraft.net so... i got here :P
#363 [09:04] <lutzee> help.mojang.com
#364 [09:04] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com is the location for official support
#365 [09:04] <lutzee> press help on minecraft.net
#366 [09:04] <lutzee> you go there
#367 [09:04] <Derp> yea, was there 1000 times
#368 [09:04] <Necrodoom> it says no where that mojang says this IRC is offical support
#369 [09:04] <Derp> seriously, what is this help page?
#370 [09:05] <Derp> for ppl using thir pc for thie first time?
#371 [09:05] <Derp> who said offical?
#372 [09:05] <Derp> said, that the page says, you are support
#373 [09:05] <Derp> i said
#374 [09:05] <Necrodoom> show me
#375 [09:05] <lutzee> Okay, isn't there a support email adress?
#376 [09:05] <Derp> i did
#377 [09:05] <Necrodoom> lutzee: that email died, though
#378 [09:05] <Derp> #MineCraftHelp on irc.esper.net - Help and support from community members.
#379 [09:06] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#380 [09:06] <Necrodoom> i got 10 emails there, nothing
#381 [09:06] <Necrodoom> an year ago
#382 [09:06] <Necrodoom> derp: link
#383 [09:06] <DiskDaemon> As of June 6 they are up to emails from April 1
#384 [09:06] <lutzee> Sigh...
#385 [09:06] <Derp> necro, learn to type
#386 [09:06] <DiskDaemon> There is a backlog of just over two months with their emails
#387 [09:06] <Derp> going to minecraft.net is NOT that hard
#388 [09:06] <lutzee> I know derp, go to sweeden, hand them cash
#389 [09:07] <Derp> sweden hmm?
#390 [09:07] <Derp> thats not that far :P
#391 [09:07] <lutzee> Yeah, the office is in stockholm
#392 [09:07] <Derp> sounds like a nice vaciation :3
#393 [09:07] <Necrodoom> "esper.net and other IRC networks aren't affiliated with Minecraft or Mojang, so their staff can't help with support"
#394 [09:08] <Derp> then tell that notch
#395 [09:08] <Necrodoom> it also says, right there
#396 [09:08] <Derp> its written on minecraft.net, that THIS is A support
#397 [09:08] <Derp> not THE OFFICIAL support, i cant find anything official there
#398 [09:08] <DiskDaemon> "community" support, that aren't affiliated with Minecraft or Mojang
#399 [09:08] <Necrodoom> if you have a problem with minecraft.net, we cant do anything
#400 [09:09] <Necrodoom> we cant fix the pay server
#401 [09:09] <Derp> yea, i am not the one who said that XD
#402 [09:09] <Derp> necro said, that i said that you are official :P
#403 [09:09] <DiskDaemon> Official support is from the HELP link at the very top of the minecraft.net page
#404 [09:09] <Derp> the help link is only text, how can the be support?
#405 [09:09] <lutzee> Derp, what country do you live in...?
#406 [09:10] <Derp> its no help at all... Porblem: I cant buy! Solution: We sorry :(
#407 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> It is a link, click on it.
#408 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> Derp: we sorry.
#409 [09:10] <Necrodoom> derp: you dropped every single payment option
#410 [09:10] <Derp> http://help.mojang.com/
#411 [09:10] <Necrodoom> we cant do a think
#412 [09:10] <Necrodoom> thing*
#413 [09:10] <Derp> clicked on it, same useless help page again
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#415 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> Derp: There are no payment options that are acceptable to you.
#416 [09:11] <lutzee> Derp, if you plan on getting through life without a credit card, i'll be amazed if you pull it off
#417 [09:11] <Necrodoom> im not sure what you expect us to do
#418 [09:11] <Derp> you should tell them to remove you from their site if you cant do anything, because you are no.. what was the word? affisomrething with them :P
#419 [09:11] <lutzee> We can help people with in game problems..
#420 [09:11] <Necrodoom> yep
#421 [09:11] <Derp> im expecting you to make stuff work, because you are support ^^
#422 [09:11] <Derp> according to minecraft
#423 [09:12] <DiskDaemon> Derp: We shall pass word on to Mojang about you and your issues, if at all possible.
#424 [09:12] <Necrodoom> god, this guy justifys his name
#425 [09:12] <Derp> how do you contact them if there is no contact in the help?
#426 [09:12] <Derp> i wanna talk to them and tell them SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!
#427 [09:12] <Necrodoom> tried to use twitter
#428 [09:12] <DiskDaemon> Derp: There are plenty of links to contact them in their help.
#429 [09:12] <Morrolan> There's a mail from somewhere on their support page.
#430 [09:12] <Necrodoom> ended up being blocked
#431 [09:12] <Morrolan> But, eh, the backlog is bigger than a dozen elephants stacked on each other.
#432 [09:13] <Derp> there is not a single link in the help
#433 [09:13] <Derp> only this Q and A like page
#434 [09:13] <DiskDaemon> Derp: You can also twitter to Notch directly if you like
#435 [09:13] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: notch usually blocks these people
#436 [09:13] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#437 [09:13] <lutzee> Maybe marc... as he is support
#438 [09:13] <Necrodoom> yep, marc
#439 [09:13] <Necrodoom> or jeb
#440 [09:14] <DiskDaemon> Derp: That link from Morrolan looks to be the one that you need.
#441 [09:14] <Derp> customer/portal/emails/new wow... how the heck did u find that? XD
#442 [09:14] <Derp> thanks
#443 [09:14] <DiskDaemon> Derp: The link to that page is all over the place
#444 [09:14] <Morrolan> It's linked from a few pages where a possible solution is to contact them.
#445 [09:14] <Derp> not for me
#446 [09:14] <Morrolan> E.g. account hacked, charged twice, etc
#447 [09:14] <DiskDaemon> For example, from http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329760-i%E2%80%99ve-been-charged-more-than-once-
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#449 [09:14] <Derp> i have read like EVRYTHING payment relating
#450 [09:15] <Morrolan> Yea, you ahve to know where to look, it's kinda hidden. ;)
#451 [09:15] <Necrodoom> why the hell is there a help tab at the help pages
#452 [09:15] <Necrodoom> that links back to the same address
#453 [09:15] <Derp> hidden like notch's smartness, yea, thanks XD
#454 [09:15] <Morrolan> THen again, seeing as how they can't keep up, not hidden enough I guess. :D
#455 [09:15] <Necrodoom> yep
#456 [09:15] <Morrolan> Necrodoom - I suppose they did't know what to call the "Home" link. ;)
#457 [09:16] <Necrodoom> minecraft support is the most crap thing ive ever seen
#458 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> They're catching up - they were around 3 months behind a few months ago. Now it's just nearly 2 months behind
#459 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> Better than it was before
#460 [09:16] <Necrodoom> atleast before you had a bug report page
#461 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> At least there's a knowledge base there now
#462 [09:16] <Necrodoom> now they have shut it down for no reason
#463 [09:16] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Out of curiosity, where do you know from how much they're behind?
#464 [09:17] <Morrolan> Twitter?
#465 [09:17] <Necrodoom> with a knowledge base with derp questions
#466 [09:17] <Morrolan> To be honest, the Knowledgebase covers the most common problems.
#467 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> help.mojang.com - Current Topics section, the "When will I hear back?" link.
#468 [09:17] <Morrolan> E.g. payment blocked due to internation transfer and whatnot.
#469 [09:17] <GreyVulpine> It does..
#470 [09:17] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Oh, that is neat.
#471 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> ta
#472 [09:18] <Morrolan> Should fetch that number daily and generate some statistics. ;)
#473 [09:20] <Derp> hmm... somehow i feel like i will be buying a minecraft clone for 50$ before they answer me XD
#474 [09:20] <Necrodoom> $50? try $10
#475 [09:20] <Derp> that space minecraft thing, looks awesome :3
#476 [09:20] <Necrodoom> or free
#477 [09:21] <Derp> i would pay 100$
#478 [09:21] <Derp> but they dotn want my money ^^
#479 [09:21] <Necrodoom> plenty of in development minecraft like games
#480 [09:21] <DiskDaemon> Derp: You ar welcome to deposit money directly in to my bank account. I have some gift codes here ready and waiting to be used. One of them can be yours. It's your choice.
#481 [09:21] <Necrodoom> though a large part are in unity
#482 [09:21] <Derp> yea, thats why i think i will have a clone, before the email comes back :P
#483 [09:21] <Derp> 3 months and lots of clones in work ^^
#484 [09:22] <Morrolan> I sure hope the fanboys don't decide to flame those new "clones" like they did when the first few appeared. <.<
#485 [09:23] <Necrodoom> yeah, like these flaming terraria
#486 [09:23] <Derp> terraria? lol
#487 [09:23] <Necrodoom> IT HAS BLOCKS! RIPOFF! BANBANBANBAN
#488 [09:23] <Derp> this is nothing like minecraft
#489 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Terraria's development has also ceased.
#490 [09:24] <Derp> its like saying, minecraft is a ripoff of clonk planet, or how it was called XD
#491 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Head guy's moved on
#492 [09:24] <Derp> clonk, the 20 year old minecraft :P
#493 [09:24] <Necrodoom> i swear, 90% of the ripoff clones was "blocks", "sandbox" "building"
#494 [09:24] <Necrodoom> calling*
#495 [09:24] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Heh, means I might finally be able to catch up again. ^^
#496 [09:24] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#497 [09:28] <Derp> ima go play tetris... has blocks too
#498 [09:29] <Necrodoom> RIPOFF
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#501 [09:38] <Derp> omg, i cant believe it, i have no idea what happened, but now paypal registartion works :O
#502 [09:38] <Derp> thanks for your help you weird magical elfs
#503 [09:39] * Morrolan blinks
#503 [09:40] <Derp> any paypal pro here? do i have to veify my bank and wait a few days before i can buy stuff?
#504 [09:41] <Derp> dont want to fill out over 9000 forms again before getting to an error messagt :P
#505 [09:41] <DiskDaemon> Yes, you have to verify yourself before paying for stuff
#506 [09:41] <lutzee> Yes, thats normal, paypal will put a few pennies into your bank and then you have to input these into paypal
#507 [09:41] <lutzee> then should be all good
#508 [09:41] <Derp> thats when they send you 2 times like 5 cent, and you have to wait, right?
#509 [09:42] <lutzee> yeah, not always that amount but yes
#510 [09:43] <Morrolan> You can also just transfer money from your bank account to PayPal, charging it up, and then use that money to pay.
#511 [09:43] <Morrolan> No verification required in this case.
#512 [09:43] <Morrolan> Unless that changed since I last used it.
#513 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> Derp: From how you are now handling things, I get the feeling that you're older than you seem, perhaps around 14 of age :)
#514 [09:45] <Derp> from how often i had to link you to minecraft.net, i still think you are 8 ^^
#515 [09:46] <Morrolan> You may now kiss the bride.
#516 [09:46] <DiskDaemon> Close, throw a 3 on there and you'll have my age
#517 [09:46] * ac3xx throws confetti
#517 [09:47] <lutzee> 83 DiskDaemon ? :p
#518 [09:47] <Derp> oh, so you are already senile? ^^
#519 [09:47] <DiskDaemon> Sometimes it feels that way
#520 [09:48] <Derp> just relax gramps
#521 [09:49] <Morrolan> Speaking of which, had a guy in here a few days ago who claimed to be 70. oO
#522 [09:49] <Derp> so... whataver, thanks a lot to those that helped me
#523 [09:49] <Derp> hope the cents arrive today and i can verifiy and play XD
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#527 [10:04] <Newbii> Hi can I use this channel to report a player bad behavior?
#528 [10:05] <Morrolan> No, we are not affiliated with any server.
#529 [10:05] <Newbii> Where can I do it then?
#530 [10:06] <Morrolan> Use the server's forum thread / forum / website / mail box.
#531 [10:06] <Newbii> Ok I'll try, thanks
#532 [10:06] <Morrolan> Or contact an admin ingame.
#533 [10:06] <Morrolan> Or contact an admin ingame.
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#535 [10:06] <Morrolan> People are getting too used to systems like VAC it seems.
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#541 [10:24] <FeetInJase> HI all
#542 [10:24] <FeetInJase> HI all
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#545 [10:33] <Guest> Help me get minecraft working!! :O
#546 [10:33] <Guest> I've spent hours searching forums etc and found nothing. :(
#547 [10:33] <AuroraTree> What's the problem
#548 [10:33] <AuroraTree> ?
#549 [10:33] <Guest> When i try and load the game on my PC, i login, it loads then i get black screen.
#550 [10:34] <Guest> If i boot it up on my laptop, it works and gets me into the game but it too laggy to even attempt to play it.
#551 [10:34] <AuroraTree> Okay, got any error logs?
#552 [10:34] <Guest> Ive tried soooo many different things to fix but nothing has worked.
#553 [10:34] <Guest> where would i find them?
#554 [10:34] <Guest> none on desktop
#555 [10:35] <AuroraTree> Nvm, what java are you running?
#556 [10:35] <Guest> i updated earlier, i think its JRE 1.0.5, or it might just be Java version 7 update 4
#557 [10:35] <AuroraTree> Yea, downgrade to 6, normally works better.
#558 [10:36] <Guest> i even changed javaw.exe priority to high in processes to help java run better.
#559 [10:36] <Guest> how?
#560 [10:36] <Guest> just of the site?
#561 [10:36] <Guest> *off
#562 [10:36] <AuroraTree> Yea.
#563 [10:36] <AuroraTree> Also, do you know that your computer can handle it?
#564 [10:37] <Guest> will i need to delete the /bin folder and reload minecraft after java download?
#565 [10:37] <AuroraTree> Graphics wise.
#566 [10:37] <AuroraTree> No, should work fine.
#567 [10:37] <Guest> i can imagine so as it runs plenty of other games, both browser and disc based perfectly.
#568 [10:37] <AuroraTree> Hmm.
#569 [10:38] <AuroraTree> Yea, downgrade to 6 and it might just be a download bug, so try redownloading after deleting your /bin.
#570 [10:38] <Guest> how do i get 6?
#571 [10:39] <Guest> the site only lets me download latest and says if i need lower to contact the owners and say they need to update
#572 [10:39] <Guest> would the java be a similar problem with my laptop?
#573 [10:39] <Guest> it runs the game but it too laggy to play and the sound skips a lot.
#574 [10:40] <GreyVulpine> No, most likely your laptop isn't up to snuff to run the game without lag.
#575 [10:41] <Guest> whats recommended spec for a laptop for minecraft?
#576 [10:41] <Guest> i tried speeding it up by downloading 64-bit java update and patching the minecraft bootup server to run through that instead, still no help. :/
#577 [10:42] <Morrolan> A dedicated graphics card is one of the most important components when buying a laptop.
#578 [10:42] <Morrolan> if you want to play any games on it, that is.
#579 [10:43] <Guest> apparently my laptop has an 'Intergrated Intel Mobile 4 series' graphics card.
#580 [10:43] <Guest> that any good?
#581 [10:43] <Morrolan> Not really, no.
#582 [10:44] <Morrolan> That's an integrated graphics card, which is far to oweak to play any game properly.
#583 [10:44] <Morrolan> too weak*
#584 [10:44] <Guest> reckon thats the problem?
#585 [10:44] <Morrolan> Yes, this would definitely lead to _very_ low FPS.
#586 [10:44] <Guest> how would i get a new one in my laptop?
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#588 [10:45] <Guest> and does that also make the sound lag as well?
#589 [10:45] <Morrolan> Putting a dedicated graphics card into a laptop which doesn't already have one is pretty much impossible.
#590 [10:45] <Guest> for example, ill walk one step forward and the sound that comes out sounds like ive run 10 paces. :s
#591 [10:45] <DiskDaemon> You would need to replace the laptop with one that does the job better. It is possible in many cases to test a laptop instore to se how well it plays
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#593 [10:46] <Guest> well i might get a new one, but right now is no good for me.
#594 [10:46] <Guest> so ignore my laptop issues, how can i fix it on my desktop pc?
#595 [10:47] <lutzee> Are you using onboard graphics on your desktop too?
#596 [10:47] <Guest> well i havent added anything so i would assume so.
#597 [10:48] <Guest> but it runs other games fine.
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#599 [10:48] <Guest> so what could be the issue?
#600 [10:48] <Guest> the pc version doesnt lag, well i dont know if it does actually cause it wont ever load. :/
#601 [10:49] <Guest> it gets stuck on a black screen after i loging and the servr loads. :s
#602 [10:49] <Derp> u got win 7 on ur desktop pc?
#603 [10:51] <Guest> xp i believe.
#604 [10:51] <Guest> win 7 on laptop.
#605 [10:51] <Derp> lol, usually win 7 causes a lot of errors, not the other way around XD
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#607 [10:52] <STooNeD> hello :)
#608 [10:52] <Guest> so what should i do?
#609 [10:52] <STooNeD> how can i change the tags of my topic
#610 [10:52] <lutzee> derp, that sounds untrue..
#611 [10:52] <lutzee> vista would cause the most problems..
#612 [10:52] <Derp> who uses vista? ^^
#613 [10:53] <Derp> vista was known for its extreme shittyness the day it got released ^^
#614 [10:53] <Derp> on win 7 you always have to remember to activate this win xp sp 2 or 3 compatibility thing, AND running as admin
#615 [10:53] <Guest> just found out my pc has 1gb RAM... thinking that doesnt help much. :/
#616 [10:53] <Derp> IF you use that account protection thing
#617 [10:54] <lutzee> I'm on win7 and had to do nothing of the sort..
#618 [10:54] <Derp> then your account controll is disabled i guess
#619 [10:55] <Derp> thats the thing when ur monitor darkens and you have to allow programms to do alter your system
#620 [10:56] <lutzee> And also, thats just a permission, nothing to do with compatibility setting
#621 [10:57] <Derp> google: win 7 cant connect to minecraft.net
#622 [10:57] <Guest> guys please help me get minecraft working :/
#623 [10:57] <Derp> but it seems your kinda right, only happens on 64 bit win 7
#624 [10:57] <Guest> i dont understand why it isnt.
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#626 [10:58] <Guest> if im downloading java 6, should i removed java 7 first?
#627 [10:59] <Derp> yes, uninstalling newer version, before installing older ones, is required in 99% of the cases :P
#628 [10:59] <mib_yr5zse> any have trouble playing mc in a web browser - (while chopping tree's MC goes into save level)
#629 [10:59] <Derp> especcially stuff that is probably running while you are installing
#630 [11:00] <Guest> will java 6 help it work? or will it still black screen?
#631 [11:00] <Guest> will java 6 help it work? or will it still black screen?
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#633 [11:00] <mib_yr5zse> im on java 7 u4
#634 [11:00] <Derp> try it and ask your pc
#635 [11:01] <Guest> i was on java 7 u4 but it doesnt load mc?
#636 [11:01] <Necrodoom> java 7 u4
#637 [11:01] <Necrodoom> .
#638 [11:02] <Guest> this is stupid why cant mc just work when you download it? :/
#639 [11:02] <Necrodoom> because its MC
#640 [11:02] <Necrodoom> buggy
#641 [11:02] <Guest> so how can i get it to work.
#642 [11:03] <Guest> ive tried changing java settings,
#643 [11:03] <Guest> deleted the /bin and redownloaded.
#644 [11:03] <mib_yr5zse> chrome, firefox dont like MC , seems it wants to save my levels every 5-8 chops , all i want is to play and chop trees all day. :-)
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#646 [11:03] <Necrodoom> it just goes blackscreen?
#647 [11:03] <Necrodoom> video drivers updated?
#648 [11:03] <Guest> sent more RAM to java processes through -Xmx1023m command :/
#649 [11:03] <Derp> i THINK minecraft is saving like ALL THE TIME
#650 [11:03] <Guest> yeah, i login, it loads then blakc screen. :S
#651 [11:03] <Necrodoom> derp: it does
#652 [11:03] <Derp> if your lagging while saving, you might want to get a faster pc
#653 [11:03] <Necrodoom> every 5 seconds as far as i remembe
#654 [11:03] <Necrodoom> remember
#655 [11:04] <Guest> i dont get a change to save :s
#656 [11:04] <Necrodoom> or 3 seconds
#657 [11:04] <Guest> i cant even get to the title screen :/
#658 [11:04] <Necrodoom> guest: video drivers updated?
#659 [11:04] <Guest> ...? I dont know?
#660 [11:04] <Guest> how do i check.
#661 [11:04] <Necrodoom> whats your video card?
#662 [11:04] <Guest> erm... ill check.
#663 [11:04] <mib_yr5zse> get molly to fick the brower @mojang
#664 [11:05] <Derp> guest, sorry, but what you need is your pc's manufacturs support, not minecraft support
#665 [11:05] <Necrodoom> search DXDIAG if you using windows
#666 [11:05] <Necrodoom> derp: actually.. its mostly minecraft
#667 [11:05] <Derp> if you dont know how to update your grapics card, you should ask a friend to optimize your system
#668 [11:06] <Necrodoom> or minecraft, what ever causes more problems
#669 [11:06] <Derp> yea, ask a friend to optimize minecraft, then we dont need notch anymore :P
#670 [11:07] <Guest> what did you want to know about the video carD?
#671 [11:07] <Necrodoom> first off, what is it, second, if driver updated
#672 [11:07] <Derp> we dont want to know anything, YOU want to know the name so you can update the drivers
#673 [11:07] <Derp> google: grapic card name + drivers, and download
#674 [11:08] <Guest> i think its a Radeon X600 Series?
#675 [11:08] <Guest> not sure if thats right.
#676 [11:08] <Derp> then google radeon x600 drivers and see if you can install
#677 [11:08] <Derp> if they are not the right ones, you get a message that you dont have a rad x600 in your pc
#678 [11:08] <Guest> i think that might be the problem :/
#679 [11:08] <Guest> its size is 256Mb
#680 [11:09] <Derp> i think on that radeon official page is a tool to check what radeon u got
#681 [11:09] <Necrodoom> your OS is windows?
#682 [11:09] <Necrodoom> if yes, launch dxdiag
#683 [11:09] <Guest> so you guys thnik it would just be easier to get a newer laptop to play it on?
#684 [11:09] <Guest> and check it works be3fore hand?
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#686 [11:09] <Necrodoom> its not the laptop
#687 [11:09] <Necrodoom> mostly
#688 [11:09] <Guest> then why does my laptop lag to hell? :S
#689 [11:09] <Derp> /play ZeldaSecret.wav
#690 [11:09] <Derp> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#691 [11:10] <Necrodoom> guest: in everything or just MC?
#692 [11:10] <Derp> there you have your radeon detector
#693 [11:10] <Guest> just MC
#694 [11:10] <Necrodoom> MC is a laggy and buggy game
#695 [11:10] <Guest> but its soo laggy i cant play.
#696 [11:10] <Necrodoom> and isnt good to test your computer
#697 [11:10] <Guest> physically cannot move in game :/
#698 [11:11] <Derp> whats the best game you played on ur pc?
#699 [11:11] <mib_yr5zse> i found my solution unstalled java and MC, Now mojang start updating MC to C++
#700 [11:11] <Derp> can you play skyrim?
#701 [11:11] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Can someone tell me why my worlds on minecraft keep getting deleted? :(
#702 [11:11] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: SP?
#703 [11:11] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Sp...?
#704 [11:12] <Guest> erm, on my pc things like prey, unreal tournament, neverwinter nights, diablo 2 etc.
#705 [11:12] <Somaisbetterthanyou> :l
#706 [11:12] <Guest> old games.
#707 [11:12] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: singleplayer
#708 [11:12] <Derp> ok, that might be the problem ^^
#709 [11:12] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Yea
#710 [11:12] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: try check if the save still exists
#711 [11:12] <Derp> minecraft looks like crap, but uses LOTS of ressources
#712 [11:12] <Necrodoom> %appdata%/.minecraft
#713 [11:12] <Derp> i think LOTS more then diablo2 ^^
#714 [11:13] <Necrodoom> it lags more than crysis 2
#715 [11:13] <Derp> yea
#716 [11:13] <Guest> the driver thing found and update for my card.
#717 [11:13] <Guest> worth trying that?
#718 [11:13] <Necrodoom> i think so
#719 [11:13] <Derp> i can play skyrim on the highest setting, with those filters on 8x and 16x and no lag
#720 [11:13] <Necrodoom> it will be better in the long run anyway
#721 [11:13] <Necrodoom> derp: same
#722 [11:13] <Derp> but yesterday i tried something in minecraftsp, and it LAGGED LIKE HELL
#723 [11:14] <Derp> logitech rapidfire + placing tnt is NOT a good idea
#724 [11:14] <Guest> so basically my desktop pc doesnt have the power to run MC, and my laptop has a shitty graphics card?
#725 [11:14] <Necrodoom> not necesseryly
#726 [11:14] <clarjon1> Derp: ohgod lol
#727 [11:14] <Necrodoom> its possible minecraft is derping on you
#728 [11:14] <Guest> then whats going wrong?
#729 [11:15] <Necrodoom> many reasons, i dont really know
#730 [11:15] <Derp> better question, what is not going wrong?
#731 [11:15] <Necrodoom> my best suggestion is optimize it
#732 [11:15] <Guest> how?
#733 [11:15] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Necro, i can't seem to find where to check for the save file. i searched what you gave me but, no luck
#734 [11:15] <Derp> if i uninstall minecraft, and try to reinstall it, it goes apeshit
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#736 [11:16] <clarjon1> Somaisbetterthanyou: press the windows key and the "r" key at the same time
#737 [11:16] <clarjon1> Somaisbetterthanyou: that will open up the "Run" dialog box
#738 [11:16] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: you found the .minecraft?
#739 [11:16] <clarjon1> Somaisbetterthanyou: in that box, type %appdata%/.minecraft
#740 [11:16] <clarjon1> Somaisbetterthanyou: then hit enter
#741 [11:17] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Alright i found it
#742 [11:17] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Yes the save is still there
#743 [11:17] <Guest> what should i do when the driver is installed?
#744 [11:17] <Derp> graphics card?
#745 [11:17] <Guest> yeah
#746 [11:17] <Derp> probably restart ur pc and try plaing minecraft ^^
#747 [11:17] <Guest> and if that doesnt work?
#748 [11:18] <Derp> curse notch
#749 [11:18] <Guest> :L
#750 [11:18] <Derp> thats what i am doing ^^
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#752 [11:18] <Necrodoom> that or optimize minecraft
#753 [11:18] <Necrodoom> spout, optifine, map.txt, etc
#754 [11:18] <mib_yr5zse> its now jeb you curse
#755 [11:18] <mib_yr5zse> not notch
#756 [11:18] <Guest> what you mean optimize mc?
#757 [11:18] <Necrodoom> make it perform better
#758 [11:19] <Guest> how?
#759 [11:19] <Guest> downloads?
#760 [11:19] <Necrodoom> mods
#761 [11:19] <Necrodoom> or custom client
#762 [11:19] <Derp> i think its a joke, you cant change much in minecraft XD
#763 [11:19] <Guest> how i do this?
#764 [11:19] <Necrodoom> you can, actually
#765 [11:19] <Necrodoom> guest: il get you link to optifine
#766 [11:19] <Derp> what can you change without being ingame?
#767 [11:19] <Somaisbetterthanyou> So i found the save and it's still in the folder necro. so how do i get it back so i can play on it again?
#768 [11:20] <mib_yr5zse> view setting to normal or short
#769 [11:20] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: its there? means world may be corrupt
#770 [11:20] <Derp> doesnt minecraft start on the lowest setting when you play first?
#771 [11:20] <Somaisbetterthanyou> :( so it's gone forever then? cause i have 4 damn worlds in there that all got attack like that
#772 [11:20] <Necrodoom> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-125-optifine-hd-c2-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and-much-more/
#773 [11:21] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: it might be possible to fix a world gone corrupt
#774 [11:21] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: the world file has level.dat?
#775 [11:21] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Yea but it says level.dat.old
#776 [11:21] <Somaisbetterthanyou> level.dat_old*
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#778 [11:22] <NSMAS> hello guys
#779 [11:22] <Necrodoom> so level.dat is missing for some reason
#780 [11:22] <Necrodoom> strange
#781 [11:22] <Necrodoom> rename level.dat_old to level.dat
#782 [11:22] <Necrodoom> that file a backup of it
#783 [11:22] <NSMAS> I would like someone ti give me free gift code :)
#784 [11:23] <Necrodoom> buy it, youd get it free
#785 [11:23] <NSMAS> no no... I don't want to buy it ... I want it for free
#786 [11:24] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Necro it said a file with the name you specefied already exists
#787 [11:24] <Somaisbetterthanyou> :?
#788 [11:24] <Necrodoom> its a game you have to pay for it NSMAS
#789 [11:24] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: so you do have level.dat
#790 [11:24] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: or dont?
#791 [11:24] <mib_yr5zse> yes here the free gift http://www.minecraft.net/store 968795454737737
#792 [11:24] <Somaisbetterthanyou> I don't but
#793 [11:24] <Somaisbetterthanyou> i can't rename it
#794 [11:24] <NSMAS> I know... but I want someone to pay it for me... do you understand me ?
#795 [11:24] <Somaisbetterthanyou> ._.
#796 [11:25] <NSMAS> it's not working
#797 [11:25] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: how big is the folder
#798 [11:25] <mib_yr5zse> haha
#799 [11:25] <Necrodoom> NSMAS: you got trolled
#800 [11:25] <Necrodoom> NSMAS: ignore it
#801 [11:25] <Necrodoom> NSMAS: you must know NO ONE will buy you a game
#802 [11:25] <NSMAS> What is trolled I'm not familiar with thet word
#803 [11:25] <Necrodoom> just because you asked for it
#804 [11:26] <Necrodoom> how old are you?
#805 [11:26] <NinjaKirby> lol, wow, anymore blatant
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#807 [11:26] <Derp> i once got someone to buy me stuff, its not that hard XD
#808 [11:26] <NSMAS> I'm 22 ... but why no one will buy the game for me ?
#809 [11:26] <Somaisbetterthanyou> The level.dat_old folder is 891 bytes it says
#810 [11:26] <NSMAS> I'm a cool guy :)
#811 [11:26] <Derp> was not 20$, but almost, i think XD
#812 [11:26] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: no, the whole world folder
#813 [11:26] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: thinking about you sending me the file
#814 [11:26] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: so i can fix
#815 [11:26] <mib_yr5zse> 22 get a job
#816 [11:27] <NSMAS> I have a job!
#817 [11:27] <Somaisbetterthanyou> 3.47 MB
#818 [11:27] <mib_yr5zse> then stop asking for freebies
#819 [11:27] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: can you upload it to mediafire please?
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#821 [11:27] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Uh sure
#822 [11:28] <NSMAS> Why not? It's awesome to get free stuff
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#824 [11:28] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Let me just sign up >w<
#825 [11:28] <mib_yr5zse> here then AFR%20221923055
#826 [11:28] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: wait, what?
#827 [11:28] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: ignore
#828 [11:28] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: what i said
#829 [11:29] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Ignore it? o_o
#830 [11:29] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Um okay
#831 [11:29] <Somaisbetterthanyou> XP
#832 [11:29] <NSMAS> wow ty It worked :)
#833 [11:29] <NSMAS> bb
#834 [11:30] * NinjaKirby looks at NSMAS's response
#834 [11:30] <NinjaKirby> wut
#835 [11:30] <Necrodoom> i agree
#836 [11:30] <Somaisbetterthanyou> hm :l
#837 [11:30] <Somaisbetterthanyou> So necro how could i give you the file then?
#838 [11:30] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: i said ignore what i said
#839 [11:31] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: so register
#840 [11:31] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: sorry for confusing you
#841 [11:31] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Hehe now i'm even more confused. you said multiple things
#842 [11:31] <Somaisbetterthanyou> so don't upload it to mediafire right?
#843 [11:31] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Just to clarify
#844 [11:31] <Necrodoom> Somaisbetterthanyou: no, you do upload
#845 [11:32] <Somaisbetterthanyou> oh okay
#846 [11:32] <Somaisbetterthanyou> I just finished signing up
#847 [11:34] <Somaisbetterthanyou> So do i upload the whole world? or just the save data?
#848 [11:34] <Necrodoom> whole world
#849 [11:34] <Necrodoom> so i can check corruption
#850 [11:34] <Somaisbetterthanyou> okay
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#852 [11:36] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Every time i try to upload it it takes me from uploading the world folder to trying to upload something within the world folder
#853 [11:36] <Somaisbetterthanyou> It keeps opening the folder instead of uploading it
#854 [11:36] <Necrodoom> you got winzip? try zip it
#855 [11:37] <mib_yr5zse> 7zip is free
#856 [11:37] <Somaisbetterthanyou> winzip? i've never heard of it before ;o
#857 [11:38] <mib_yr5zse> http://dl.7-zip.org/7z927.exe
#858 [11:39] <Somaisbetterthanyou> Okay necro i got winzip c:
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#860 [11:44] <Thesakamoto> Sorry about that necro. i lost connection
#861 [11:44] <Thesakamoto> aaand necro is gone
#862 [11:44] <Thesakamoto> :(
#863 [11:45] <Keltinray> ...wat?
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#867 [11:48] <NinjaKirby> lol, this channel is ridiculous at times, but I love it
#868 [11:49] <NinjaKirby> I hate it when I build something, big or small in MC, and I realise I need to shift it all ONE block over, to make it sit better.
#869 [11:50] <Calinou> <Somaisbetterthanyou> Okay necro i got winzip c: < protip, winzip sucks
#870 [11:51] <mib_yr5zse> http://dl.7-zip.org/7z927.exe is better
#871 [11:51] <Necrodoom> Calinou: doesnt matter, file is tinty
#872 [11:51] <Necrodoom> tiny*
#873 [11:52] <Calinou> mib_yr5zse, you should point to the official site instead, and have a real nickname too
#874 [11:52] <Calinou> there is a x86 version AND a x64 version
#875 [11:53] <mib_yr5zse> no really
#876 [11:53] <Calinou> ?
#877 [11:54] <SPXlinux> dark lord returns
#878 [11:54] <SPXlinux> :-D
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#880 [11:57] <Somaissakamoto> Um is anyone here? :l
#881 [11:57] <Somaissakamoto> I need some help :(
#882 [11:57] <Necrodoom> give mediafire link
#883 [11:58] <Somaissakamoto> there you are ._.
#884 [11:58] <Somaissakamoto> The dumb thing was doing the same thing that mediafire was
#885 [11:58] <Somaissakamoto> it kept opening the folder
#886 [11:58] <Somaissakamoto> How about i just email you the file since it's not too big?
#887 [11:59] <Calinou> Somaissakamoto, lrn2zip
#888 [11:59] <Calinou> you don't send folders, you send a compressed folder because it is actually a FILE, not a FOLDER
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#891 [12:02] <Somaissakamoto> Necro i have an idea >;D
#892 [12:03] <Somaissakamoto> Since i can't zip and idgaf how to, i can just upload it in the chunks that it allows me to
#893 [12:03] <Necrodoom> Somaissakamoto: zz
#894 [12:03] <Morrolan> right click -> send to -> compressed folder
#895 [12:03] <Morrolan> Done
#896 [12:03] <Necrodoom> Somaissakamoto: its a matter of download, install, zip
#897 [12:04] <Necrodoom> if you have windows 7
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#899 [12:04] <Necrodoom> just do what Morrolan said
#900 [12:04] <Morrolan> Wasn't that added earlier?
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#902 [12:05] <Somaissakamoto> i have xp
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#904 [12:08] <Morrolan> right click -> new -> compressed folder (ZIP), then just drag stuff in there.
#905 [12:09] <Morrolan> Also: Google "how to create zip file on XP", first result.
#906 [12:09] <Morrolan> You won't get far with a "can't be arsed to do shit" attitude.
#907 [12:09] <Somaissakamoto> touche
#908 [12:09] <Somaissakamoto> Im just still a little pissed at minecraft for eating my worlds
#909 [12:09] <Somaissakamoto> :l
#910 [12:17] <Somaissakamoto> I got it! :D
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#912 [12:17] <Somaissakamoto> It's uploading now :D
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#916 [12:30] <Somaissakamoto> ;l
#917 [12:30] <Somaissakamoto> It's odd how on a help forum everyone is idle XP
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#919 [12:30] <Somaissakamoto> help chat*
#920 [12:30] <Calinou> this is IRC, an idle chatter
#921 [12:30] <Morrolan> That's normal for IRC. :)
#922 [12:31] <Morrolan> 'specially for a channel which is, more or less, dedicated to support.
#923 [12:31] <Somaissakamoto> ah..
#924 [12:31] <Morrolan> chatter-channels have usually a bit more activity.
#925 [12:31] <Calinou> today's teenager spotted
#926 [12:31] <Somaissakamoto> well i'm just here bein bored waiting to see if necro can work his genius on my corrupted minecraft worlds
#927 [12:31] <Somaissakamoto> :l
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#930 [12:43] <PTDx> Hello
#931 [12:44] <PTDx> I recently downloaded a virus which hacked into my email account, very foolishly.
#932 [12:44] <SomaSakamoto> ouch
#933 [12:44] <AuroraTree> Congratulations :3
#934 [12:44] <PTDx> They changed my email password, but haven't changed my minecraft pass
#935 [12:44] <PTDx> How can I change the email my Minecraft is registered to?
#936 [12:45] <AuroraTree> Go to the website, log in, profile, change email, done :D
#937 [12:45] <lutzee> It must be a mojang account btw
#938 [12:45] <lutzee> also try get your email account back too
#939 [12:45] <PTDx> hat do you mean by mojang account
#940 [12:45] <PTDx> what*
#941 [12:45] <PTDx> a premium one?
#942 [12:45] <PTDx> also aurora tree
#943 [12:45] <lutzee> Minecraft account you log in with your minecraft character name
#944 [12:46] <PTDx> yeah
#945 [12:46] <PTDx> i have a mojang account.
#946 [12:46] <SomaSakamoto> There is no change email section of the minecraft site
#947 [12:46] <lutzee> if you move it to a mojang account to have to log in using email
#948 [12:46] <SomaSakamoto> ah
#949 [12:46] <SomaSakamoto> o_o
#950 [12:46] <AuroraTree> Wha
#951 [12:46] <PTDx> ik...
#952 [12:46] <PTDx> I cant login
#953 [12:46] <PTDx> but they didnt change my pass
#954 [12:46] <AuroraTree> There used to be QQ
#955 [12:46] <SomaSakamoto> You might just be fucked my friend ._.
#956 [12:46] * AuBot kicked SomaSakamoto from #minecrafthelp (Reason: omaSakamoto :Please keep it civil.)
#957 [12:46] <PTDx> i mean, i can login
#958 [12:46] <AuroraTree> So you forgot your pass?
#959 [12:46] <AuroraTree> Oh right.
#960 [12:46] <PTDx> no
#961 [12:46] <PTDx> my email got hacked
#962 [12:47] <PTDx> they changed email pass
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#964 [12:47] <PTDx> so I cant change the email my minecraft is registered to
#965 [12:47] <Somaisthebest> Darn bots just trolled me ._.
#966 [12:47] <PTDx> unless they confirm the change email request
#967 [12:47] <PTDx> so I was hoping a admin could help me
#968 [12:47] <PTDx> change it
#969 [12:47] <Somaisthebest> Does anyone else know how to fix a corrupted minecraft world? :c
#970 [12:48] <AuroraTree> None of us here actually work for Mojang unfortunately.
#971 [12:48] <PTDx> Where can I contact mojang
#972 [12:48] <Somaisthebest> :(
#973 [12:49] <clarjon1> Somaisthebest: the bots didn't troll you, you swore.
#974 [12:50] <Somaisthebest> some other guy swore and he didn't get kicked :c
#975 [12:51] <Somaisthebest> Now back to my original question... can anyone anyone at all fix a corrupted world? :L
#976 [12:51] <Somaisthebest> I just found a bunch of diamonds and mined some obsidian not to mention almost a full stack of iron :c
#977 [12:52] <Somaisthebest> And then the world just went le poof! but of course being the evil minecraft entity it is, it's still in the folder
#978 [12:52] <Somaisthebest> Any one help me? :c
#979 [12:52] <Necrodoom> level.dat corruption
#980 [12:53] <Necrodoom> use backup
#981 [12:53] <Necrodoom> change level.dat_old to level.dat
#982 [12:53] <PTDx> Where can I contact mojang
#983 [12:53] <Necrodoom> move original level.dat
#984 [12:54] <Somaisthebest> wait wait. theres a file that says
#985 [12:54] <Somaisthebest> level
#986 [12:54] <Somaisthebest> and when i click , under it it says
#987 [12:54] <Somaisthebest> Level and then DAT file
#988 [12:56] <Necrodoom> your extensions are hidden, then
#989 [12:56] <PTDx> Where can I contact mojang
#990 [12:56] <PTDx> Where can I contact mojang
#991 [12:56] <PTDx> Where can I contact mojang
#992 [12:56] <PTDx> Where can I contact mojang
#993 [12:56] <Somaisthebest> i wanna uppercut minecraft =_=
#994 [12:57] <Somaisthebest> v_v
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#996 [12:59] <Somaisthebest> This sucks..
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#998 [13:03] <Billowe> So my friend is trying to make a modded jar work on his mac. We have a pre-modded jar for our server w/ modloader, forge and gui api (for mo creatures0
#999 [13:03] <Billowe> )
#1000 [13:04] <Billowe> He's getting either a hang after the updating screen, or a black screen after mojang logo
#1001 [13:04] <Billowe> With a fresh install, clean .minecraft folder etc..
#1002 [13:04] <Billowe> He was able to start it with just modloader by installnig manually, so forge seems to be the culprit... any ideas?
#1003 [13:06] <lutzee> ask in #minecraftforge
#1004 [13:06] <Billowe> genius!
#1005 [13:06] <Somaisthebest> ...
#1006 [13:07] <Somaisthebest> Ok coming here was pointless since no one helped me in the slightest.. so it's whatever then
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#1008 [13:18] <Calinou> R A G E Q U I T, again.
#1009 [13:21] <Eddie> People are impatient on the computer.
#1010 [13:21] <Eddie> If they don't get what they want within 10 seconds, they rage.
#1011 [13:21] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1012 [13:21] <Grim_Reaper> Eddie I think it MIGHT be 8 seconds
#1013 [13:23] <Eddie> ok
#1014 [13:24] <Eddie> I'm quite patient when it involves other people :p
#1015 [13:24] <Grim_Reaper> What if it involves.. non people?
#1016 [13:25] <Eddie> then I am not as patient
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#1018 [13:35] <Calinou> girls count as people, btw.
#1019 [13:35] <Eddie> I hope you're not telling that to me.
#1020 [13:36] <Calinou> :D
#1021 [13:36] <Eddie> Are you a girl?
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#1023 [13:37] <Rahu1> Help
#1024 [13:37] <Rahu1> please
#1025 [13:37] <Rahu1> all my players keep dying
#1026 [13:37] <Rahu1> its a glitch on my server?
#1027 [13:38] <Rahu1> please help ASAP
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#1029 [13:39] <Calinou> Rahu1, explain please? we need more info. :)
#1030 [13:39] <Calinou> we can't do telepathy sorry
#1031 [13:48] <Keltinray> Rahu1, you're going to have to supply more details than that. Does your server have any plugins? How do they die? How often?
#1032 [13:52] <Rahu1> mm
#1033 [13:52] <Rahu1> idk how they die
#1034 [13:52] <Rahu1> i have the main top plugins
#1035 [13:52] <Rahu1> the popular ones
#1036 [13:52] <Rahu1> they die every 10 mins or so
#1037 [13:53] <Keltinray> Do your players actually eat?
#1038 [13:53] <Rahu1> no its like
#1039 [13:53] <Rahu1> slash scuicide
#1040 [13:53] <Rahu1> when i type that it also trigers it i think
#1041 [13:55] <Keltinray> Do you have a list of said plugins?
#1042 [13:55] <Calinou> Rahu1, why don't you know how they die? there are death messages
#1043 [13:55] <Calinou> if it's "died", then it is the generic reason - probably /kill
#1044 [13:55] <Rahu1> it says
#1045 [13:55] <Rahu1> killed them selfes
#1046 [13:55] <Calinou> ^
#1047 [13:56] <Calinou> some people are suiciding to restore health/hunger when they can get their items back easily. or they're just spamming
#1048 [13:56] <Keltinray> Either that, or a plugin has gone haywire
#1049 [13:56] <Rahu1> i tried it, i typed the scuicide command
#1050 [13:56] <Rahu1> and evey 1 dies
#1051 [13:56] <Rahu1> how can i remove
#1052 [13:56] <Rahu1> the command
#1053 [13:57] <Calinou> use a permissions plugin to disallow the command
#1054 [13:57] <Keltinray> Uh... how about you don't use that command?
#1055 [13:57] <Calinou> bPermissions and PermissionsEx are the most used permission plugins
#1056 [13:58] <Rahu1> kelti
#1057 [13:58] <Rahu1> players can use it.
#1058 [13:58] <Rahu1> new players who join
#1059 [13:58] <Keltinray> What plugin provides the command?
#1060 [13:59] <Rahu1> the suicide command
#1061 [13:59] <Rahu1> i don't know how to check that
#1062 [13:59] <Rahu1> i thought it was a default command
#1063 [14:00] <Keltinray> Ok, can you give a list of the plugins you have on the server?
#1064 [14:01] <Rahu1> sure 1 moment
#1065 [14:03] <Rahu1> UltimatArena, GroupMAnager, WorldEdit, Buycraft, Spamguard, onlign signs, vault, mobileadmin, world guard, topvp, iconomy, world sever, open inv, player status signs, no cheat, mob disguise, mcmmo, lift, essentials, citizens, essentials spawn, chest shop, essentials chat, fations.
#1066 [14:03] <Rahu1> thats what i get when i do /plugins
#1067 [14:03] <Rahu1> thats what i get when i do slashplugins
#1068 [14:04] <Keltinray> eef, essentials :S
#1069 [14:04] <Rahu1> . /*
#1070 [14:04] <Rahu1> huh?
#1071 [14:04] <Rahu1> its in essentials?
#1072 [14:04] <Keltinray> I'm going to guess that it is
#1073 [14:04] <Rahu1> so what i do now
#1074 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> You put one leg behind the other
#1075 [14:05] <Rahu1> o.o
#1076 [14:06] <NinjaKirby> You gotta bend the Knee's
#1077 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure you stretch
#1078 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> (I have no idea whats going on here. I just saw Rahu1 ask what to do next)
#1079 [14:08] <Rahu1> o.o
#1080 [14:11] <Keltinray> I'm just going to suggest that you get a permission plugin like he said, and set things up properly
#1081 [14:11] <Keltinray> The fact that you needed to do /plugins to find out what plugins you have installed is a bad sign
#1082 [14:11] <Rahu1> ty for help i think it was toppvp
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#1090 [14:41] <magictj> Hi can anyone help me im trying to play minecraft classic in multiplayer but any server it says failed to connect
#1091 [14:42] <mib_n9w1yk> Hey, I am trying to connect to my friends server and it fails while saying "downloading Terrain"
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#1093 [14:47] <Calinou> ragequit, again.
#1094 [14:48] <Calinou> magictj, what operating system/java version?
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#1104 [15:49] <AFreezy24> Hello
#1105 [15:49] <AFreezy24> where can i talk to minecraft makers?
#1106 [15:50] <peru> nowhere
#1107 [15:50] <peru> live i mean
#1108 [15:51] <AFreezy24> ??
#1109 [15:51] <AFreezy24> more like i have an idea for them
#1110 [15:52] <AFreezy24> anywhere i can hook up with them?
#1111 [15:53] <peru> only via email
#1112 [15:57] <AFreezy24> whats the email, i could not find it
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#1115 [16:11] <AFreezy24> Sorry lost connection anyone know a Minecraft Developer email i can use
#1116 [16:11] <AFreezy24> or email them
#1117 [16:12] <Morrolan> They are horribly backlogged.
#1118 [16:12] <AFreezy24> Whats that mean
#1119 [16:12] <Morrolan> Your best bet is to try Twitter, but even there your chances of getting heared are tiny.
#1120 [16:13] <Morrolan> They receive that many emails that they are currently processing the ones from April.
#1121 [16:13] <AFreezy24> i have an idea for them and that sucks
#1122 [16:13] <AFreezy24> and who/what are you?
#1123 [16:13] <Morrolan> And so do a few thousand other people.
#1124 [16:13] <AFreezy24> like a mod
#1125 [16:13] <AFreezy24> on here
#1126 [16:13] <Morrolan> Channel operator, not associated with Mojang.
#1127 [16:13] <AFreezy24> ohh ok
#1128 [16:14] <LilLucy> And I am Morrolan's.. as some people call
#1129 [16:14] <LilLucy> Bitch
#1130 [16:14] <Morrolan> Due to Mojang's small size, and the thousands of Minecraft players, contacting them has, sadly, become nigh-impossible.
#1131 [16:14] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1132 [16:15] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - You weren't supposed to tell anyone. D:
#1133 [16:15] <AFreezy24> lol
#1134 [16:15] <AFreezy24> haha
#1135 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> I wasn't ;-;?
#1136 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> Sowwi
#1137 [16:15] <Morrolan> You know how prude some Americans are.
#1138 [16:15] <AFreezy24> you guys play mc?
#1139 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> yup
#1140 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> Ok fine Im Morrolan's slave
#1141 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> Better?
#1142 [16:15] <AFreezy24> want to play on my friends and i server
#1143 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> I would but I lagg so much on servers due to my slow netr
#1144 [16:16] <AFreezy24> That sucks, what do you have?
#1145 [16:16] <AFreezy24> for internet?
#1146 [16:16] <Grim_Reaper> 384Kbit line ;-;
#1147 [16:16] <Grim_Reaper> Though hopefully to be upgraded to 1Mbit in august
#1148 [16:16] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Now you've got atleast the southern part backing you up. :D
#1149 [16:16] <Grim_Reaper> Lol Morrolan
#1150 [16:16] <AFreezy24> What kind of computer due you use
#1151 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> Intel core 2 duo, 4GB ram
#1152 [16:17] <AFreezy24> I have dsl which sucks when we have people on netflix and on other computers
#1153 [16:18] <AFreezy24> You guys know when 1.3 comes out or no?
#1154 [16:18] <Grim_Reaper> AFreezy24 we dont
#1155 [16:18] <AFreezy24> Why not
#1156 [16:18] <Grim_Reaper> But if I recall. Jeb is hoping to release it soon
#1157 [16:19] <Morrolan> Last time they announced a release date they couldn't keep it, which lead to major uproar in the lower parts of the community.
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#1159 [16:19] <AFreezy24> im building a collosseum and i want to know lol
#1160 [16:19] <Morrolan> I really prefer they just release it when they're ready. ^^
#1161 [16:20] <AFreezy24> because if its a waste of time ill just stop
#1162 [16:20] <Grim_Reaper> I agree Morrolan
#1163 [16:20] <Grim_Reaper> Their failed promises on release dates did cause major hate lol
#1164 [16:21] <AFreezy24> do you guys have to stay on this channel 24/7
#1165 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> Yes
#1166 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> We are forced to by mojang
#1167 [16:21] <Morrolan> We don't get paid a cent, so no. ;)
#1168 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> And in the event we leave. They whip us with lashes
#1169 [16:21] * Morrolan slaps Grim_Reaper
#1169 [16:21] <AFreezy24> That kinda sucks
#1170 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> Hey D:
#1171 [16:22] <Morrolan> Some of us stay connected all the time, but obviously aren't in front of our keyboards 24/7.
#1172 [16:22] <Morrolan> Work, sleep, food etc. :D
#1173 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> I like to be slapped AFTER I get hugged
#1174 [16:22] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#1174 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> Not before ;-;
#1175 [16:22] <Omega_Guardian> doh. Grandma in house :P Better not play [insert any remotely violent/disturbing visuals game here]
#1176 [16:22] <Morrolan> Play, ehm.
#1177 [16:22] * Morrolan goes over his steam library
#1177 [16:22] <Morrolan> damn, no game which would fit those criteria in there
#1178 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan Im seriously going to force you to play a horror one day >_>
#1179 [16:23] <Omega_Guardian> was 3 seconds from loading of Binding of Isaac, then I heard her voice :P
#1180 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> And we'll start off with Amnesia
#1181 [16:23] <Morrolan> Haha, oh no, you're not. :D
#1182 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> Oh I will
#1183 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> Even if I have to fly to your house
#1184 [16:23] <AFreezy24> Whats horror
#1185 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> A game genre
#1186 [16:23] <Boreeas> Amnesia? Is that the game with the weird teleport-when-you-look-away thingy?
#1187 [16:23] <AFreezy24> ohh ok duh
#1188 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> Boreeas no
#1189 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> Amnesia the dark descent
#1190 [16:23] <Omega_Guardian> one time years ago I rented Jason Goes to Hell, uh...grandma came over and saw a few seconds, apparently freaked out and my mom got pissed :P
#1191 [16:24] <Grim_Reaper> LOL
#1192 [16:24] <Morrolan> Omega_Guardian - Eufloria maybe? :D
#1193 [16:24] <Morrolan> It's about, err, seeds fighting each other.
#1194 [16:24] <AFreezy24> lol seeds?
#1195 [16:24] <Morrolan> Ohh, Samorost. \o/
#1196 [16:25] <Omega_Guardian> that one looks like one of those bizarre games that nobody much even knows what the point is, like the one game called The Void or something
#1197 [16:25] <AFreezy24> How old are you guys?
#1198 [16:25] <Morrolan> Worst thing which happens there is your dog getting abducted.
#1199 [16:25] <Boreeas> AFreezy24: Old enough ;)
#1200 [16:25] <Morrolan> Eufloria is actually pretty fun to play, but it has a strange setting indeed. :)
#1201 [16:25] <AFreezy24> haha older than 18?
#1202 [16:25] <AFreezy24> or less jw
#1203 [16:25] <Grim_Reaper> I am... extremely old
#1204 [16:25] <AFreezy24> tim 16
#1205 [16:25] <AFreezy24> tim*
#1206 [16:25] <Morrolan> If he says no he's an FBI agent.
#1207 [16:25] <AFreezy24> im*
#1208 [16:25] <AFreezy24> haha
#1209 [16:26] <Grim_Reaper> Welcome to the internet. Where men are men, woman are men. And little girls are FBI agents
#1210 [16:26] <LilLucy> ^__________^
#1211 [16:26] <Omega_Guardian> ok I'll look at the trailer then. One game was all just...no trailer, but funky lights
#1212 [16:26] <AFreezy24> so true
#1213 [16:26] <Omega_Guardian> 18 was a lifetime ago for me
#1214 [16:26] <LilLucy> VoxelHead clearly loves muting me
#1215 [16:26] <AFreezy24> lol whos voxel head?
#1216 [16:26] <Boreeas> A bot
#1217 [16:27] <Boreeas> Takes care of channel management for us
#1218 [16:27] <Morrolan> Reminds me of that one scene in Batman: Arkham Asylum, LilLucy.
#1219 [16:27] <AFreezy24> haha
#1220 [16:27] <LilLucy> Morrolan?
#1221 [16:27] <Boreeas> Morrolan: Play this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-11bFONAbzg
#1222 [16:27] <AFreezy24> Borreeas yuo play mc?
#1223 [16:27] <Morrolan> Basically you stumbled across Harley Quinn, tied to a pale, and gagged with some duct tape.
#1224 [16:27] <AFreezy24> That looks scary
#1225 [16:28] <Boreeas> No, I'm in this channel because I /hate/ Minecraft, AFreezy24
#1226 [16:28] <AFreezy24> ohhh lol
#1227 [16:28] <Morrolan> You also could ungag her, which would lead to her complaining about this and that. And then you could gag her again.
#1228 [16:28] <AFreezy24> wanna check out my server
#1229 [16:28] <Morrolan> Guess what I spent the next five minutes on. ;)
#1230 [16:28] <LilLucy> Gagging her?
#1231 [16:28] <LilLucy> lol >_>
#1232 [16:28] <AFreezy24> ahha
#1233 [16:29] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Hmm, no way. ;)
#1234 [16:29] <AFreezy24> Boreeas want to check out my server?
#1235 [16:29] <Morrolan> LilLucy - For the record: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBX8rhdVZ-o
#1236 [16:30] <LilLucy> lol
#1237 [16:30] <Morrolan> Oh, don't bother reading the comments, they are what is to expect.
#1238 [16:30] <LilLucy> lol k
#1239 [16:30] <Morrolan> "hurp durp I wanna gag with my penis blabla"
#1240 [16:32] <LilLucy> lol
#1241 [16:33] <Boreeas> Morrolan: I got fucking scared only watching those playthrougs
#1242 [16:34] <AFreezy24> Boreeas
#1243 [16:34] <AFreezy24> tDo you want to look at my server
#1244 [16:34] <Boreeas> No
#1245 [16:34] <AFreezy24> why :(
#1246 [16:35] <AFreezy24> you dont have to play just tell me what you think?
#1247 [16:35] <LilLucy> http://edu.glogster.com/media/4/37/4/80/37048022.jpg
#1248 [16:38] <LilLucy> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_uICmd3v2AXE/TTBxwd9lrxI/AAAAAAAAF6Q/-54Op-Gpd9U/s1600/babybats.jpg
#1249 [16:38] <LilLucy> wtf ;-;
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#1253 [16:51] <AFreezy24> Das Grim_Reaper
#1254 [16:51] <AFreezy24> es la best
#1255 [16:51] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1256 [16:52] <AFreezy24> lol
#1257 [16:53] <AFreezy24> AFreezy24 is Grim_Reaper littler slave
#1258 [16:53] <AFreezy24> tlol
#1259 [16:53] <AFreezy24> lol
#1260 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#1261 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> Yay I haz a slave \o/
#1262 [16:53] <AFreezy24> haha
#1263 [16:53] <AFreezy24> a slave with a slave
#1264 [16:53] <AFreezy24> thats outrageous
#1265 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#1266 [16:54] <Morrolan> That's decadent.
#1267 [16:54] <AFreezy24> haha
#1268 [16:56] <AFreezy24> I'm so bored :((
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#1270 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> Oh my god, I fukken' love Minecraft, I am blessed this day
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#1272 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> Been working on this adventure map for like almost 6 months now, I finally entered the Nether to build the Boss Castle, and wow, perfect terrain
#1273 [16:59] <AFreezy24> can i see?
#1274 [16:59] <NinjaKirby> There's a massive opening from Y32 to Y110, like really big, and there's a Dungeon thingy on stilts coming out of the Lava, rising high
#1275 [16:59] <NinjaKirby> Definitely be running the players through it, to get to the castle
#1276 [16:59] <AFreezy24> NinjaKirby may i preview your map?
#1277 [17:00] <NinjaKirby> I'd have to backup and stuff, and I'm on a roll, so sorry ^^;;
#1278 [17:00] <NinjaKirby> I've made a thread with some screenshots before, but it's come a way since the screenies
#1279 [17:01] <AFreezy24> is it public or local server?
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#1281 [17:01] <Rahu1> help please
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#1283 [17:01] <Rahu1> how do i change the hunger rate
#1284 [17:01] <Rahu1> on my server
#1285 [17:01] <NinjaKirby> Everythings setup to have people come on, but it's whitelisted atm
#1286 [17:02] <AFreezy24> with your console
#1287 [17:02] <AFreezy24> rahu
#1288 [17:02] <Rahu1> ?
#1289 [17:02] <Rahu1> wat command
#1290 [17:02] <AFreezy24> what do you use?
#1291 [17:02] <Rahu1> bukkit
#1292 [17:03] <Rahu1> is their a command?
#1293 [17:05] <Rahu1> ???
#1294 [17:07] <AFreezy24> sorry im looking
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#1297 [17:09] <AFreezy24> Do you have a serverprovider?
#1298 [17:09] <Rahu1> no
#1299 [17:09] <Rahu1> i dont think so
#1300 [17:09] <Rahu1> i host myself
#1301 [17:09] <Rahu1> lol
#1302 [17:10] <AFreezy24> so its off your computer? ok
#1303 [17:10] <AFreezy24> tok
#1304 [17:10] <AFreezy24> go into your worlds file and look in there
#1305 [17:11] <Rahu1> look for?
#1306 [17:11] <AFreezy24> a hunger setting
#1307 [17:13] <Rahu1> nothing their
#1308 [17:13] <Rahu1> there*
#1309 [17:13] <AFreezy24> ok what files do you have?
#1310 [17:13] <AFreezy24> can you list them
#1311 [17:14] <Rahu1> data, mcmmo_data, players, regon, soiut_meta, level.dat, level.dat_old, seesion.lock, uid.dat
#1312 [17:14] <Rahu1> also can i make it so u can see capes on normal mincraft ?
#1313 [17:15] <AFreezy24> try players
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#1317 [17:20] <Grim_Reaper> I would suggest asking in #bukkit for help
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#1319 [17:26] <AFreezy24> thank god you came grim i had no idea lol
#1320 [17:26] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1321 [17:26] <AFreezy24> local host is hard to tell them where to go
#1322 [17:27] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1323 [17:27] <AFreezy24> wanna join mt server? lul
#1324 [17:27] <AFreezy24> :P
#1325 [17:27] <Grim_Reaper> Lagging too much lol sorry
#1326 [17:27] <AFreezy24> how lol
#1327 [17:29] <Grim_Reaper> <--- downloading
#1328 [17:33] <AFreezy24> lol
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#1332 [17:41] <whitewolf> hi i just downloaded minecraft multiplayer to another computer and freedonia is not showing up on the multiplayer server list
#1333 [17:41] <whitewolf> anyone know the ip so i can direct connect?
#1334 [17:48] <AFreezy24> no sorry
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#1336 [17:49] <whitewolf> oh ok
#1337 [17:49] <AFreezy24> try looking on Planet Minecraft
#1338 [17:49] <AFreezy24> for it
#1339 [17:49] <whitewolf> ok
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#1341 [17:52] <whitewolf> do any of you guys who just came in know the adress for freedonia?
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#1343 [17:54] <whitewolf> do you know another site i could find it on my computer will not load planetminecraft
#1344 [17:54] <whitewolf> ?
#1345 [17:55] <AFreezy24> maybe reddit?
#1346 [17:55] <AFreezy24> planet minecraft loaded for ill look
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#1348 [17:56] <AFreezy24> Nevermid Planet Minecraft is down
#1349 [17:56] <AFreezy24> Nevermind*
#1350 [17:57] <whitewolf> reddit?
#1351 [18:02] <AFreezy24> nvm
#1352 [18:02] <NinjaKirby> The cached page of the PlanetMinecraft article for it says minecraftfreedonia.net, which resolves to 98.180.29.240
#1353 [18:02] <NinjaKirby> Assuming that approach even works
#1354 [18:03] <whitewolf> ok ill try that
#1355 [18:11] <AFreezy24> Hey Ninja?
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#1357 [18:11] <Guest> help?
#1358 [18:11] <AFreezy24> Yes?
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#1360 [18:11] <Guest> how do you turn off flying? lol i turned it on by accident
#1361 [18:11] <AFreezy24> For what your server?
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#1363 [18:12] <Guest> no singleplayer
#1364 [18:12] <Guest__> Hey... can i get some help with installing minecraft? I use the browser version, and it gives me a "class not found" error. Meanwhile using the downloadable installer, It just flashes on my screen for a half a second before shutting down.
#1365 [18:12] <AFreezy24> You are in creative mode just restart a new map for survival mode
#1366 [18:12] <NinjaKirby> Sorry, sup AFreezy?
#1367 [18:13] <AFreezy24> Hows your server coming along
#1368 [18:13] <Guest> i know i'm in creative, is it possible to get down?
#1369 [18:13] <AFreezy24> What are your controls for flying up and down
#1370 [18:13] <NinjaKirby> Okay, explored the nether dungeon place, not too bad, it'll suffice in design with some tweaks
#1371 [18:14] <Guest> i don't know, i think double tapping space goes up
#1372 [18:14] <AFreezy24> Nice, thats good
#1373 [18:14] <whitewolf> wrong freedonia
#1374 [18:14] <NinjaKirby> lol, whitewolf, sorry, didn't know there was different ones O_o I guess I read the wrong Cached page
#1375 [18:14] <AFreezy24> hit esc and then go to controls and find what button sneak is
#1376 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> !topic -1
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#1378 [18:15] <Guest> It was shift. thanks, on the ground now
#1379 [18:15] <whitewolf> to go down while flying double tap the spacebar
#1380 [18:15] <AFreezy24> No Problem
#1381 [18:16] <whitewolf> that is also how you get off the ground
#1382 [18:16] <AFreezy24> Hey i already helped them Wolf lol
#1383 [18:16] <whitewolf> oh okies sorry slow typer here
#1384 [18:16] <AFreezy24> and its not even my job lol
#1385 [18:16] <AFreezy24> I helped like three people
#1386 [18:17] <armedtoe> how about me? :D I use the browser version of minecraft, and it gives me a "class not found" error. Meanwhile using the downloadable installer, It just flashes on my screen for a half a second before shutting down.
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#1388 [18:18] <Drac> I can't think of any problems right now, real or otherwise.
#1389 [18:18] <Drac> I think I'll just go.
#1390 [18:18] <Drac> I think I'll just go.
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#1392 [18:18] <rev-lemon> armedtoe dude what vers of java do you have ?
#1393 [18:19] <armedtoe> i updated when preparing to install
#1394 [18:19] <armedtoe> so the latest i guess
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#1396 [18:20] <rev-lemon> so you did a update not a re install of java correct ?
#1397 [18:21] <NinjaKirby> Apparently the v7 beta of Java is a bit derpy with Minecraft
#1398 [18:21] <armedtoe> okay... should i try uninstalling then reinstalling v6?
#1399 [18:21] <rev-lemon> i belive so
#1400 [18:23] <NinjaKirby> Or perhaps delete the Minecraft Bin folder and redownload the game, perhaps the .jar is corrupt or wonky
#1401 [18:23] <NinjaKirby> How minute the possibility
#1402 [18:23] <NinjaKirby> I hate how minute (time) and minute (small) are spelled exactly the same.
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#1404 [18:24] <AFreezy24> lol
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#1406 [18:24] <AFreezy24> i was like what did he just say
#1407 [18:27] <whitewolf> i
#1408 [18:27] <whitewolf> feel
#1409 [18:27] <whitewolf> stupid
#1410 [18:28] <NinjaKirby> Like chicken tonight~
#1411 [18:28] <NinjaKirby> What happened Whitewolf?
#1412 [18:28] <whitewolf> in the server address feild to get to freedonia you type in minecraftonline.com
#1413 [18:29] <whitewolf> and that is freedonias address
#1414 [18:29] <whitewolf> i feel very very stupid
#1415 [18:29] <whitewolf> bye now
#1416 [18:29] <whitewolf> bye now
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#1418 [18:29] <NinjaKirby> Huh, well what I got off the cached page is wrong then. I guess that's what I deserve for relying on a Cache though.
#1419 [18:30] <Calinou> W T F, people talk about a server I know here...
#1420 [18:30] <Calinou> *_*
#1421 [18:31] <NinjaKirby> Due to the lack of a question mark, I would assume you are suggesting everyone queries servers you are genuinely unfamiliar with.
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#1423 [18:31] <TehBrawlGuy> Hello!
#1424 [18:32] <Calinou> hi TehBrawlGuy
#1425 [18:32] <Calinou> no need to ask to ask
#1426 [18:32] <TehBrawlGuy> I'm having a bizarre error, spent about an hour here a few days ago trying to get it sorted out.
#1427 [18:32] <Calinou> explain? keep in mind we can't do telepathy, please tell your operating system and java version
#1428 [18:32] <AFreezy24> What's Wrong?
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#1430 [18:33] <TehBrawlGuy> Basically, it crashes on load, but not if I run it through MCerror
#1431 [18:33] <TehBrawlGuy> If I run it through MCerror, it crashes after some gameplay.
#1432 [18:33] <TehBrawlGuy> let me get you the logs
#1433 [18:34] <TehBrawlGuy> http://pastebin.com/UkqE2HYk
#1434 [18:34] <TehBrawlGuy> I updated about 3 days ago.
#1435 [18:34] <TehBrawlGuy> Nothing new since then, right?
#1436 [18:34] <rev-lemon> auto responce
#1437 [18:34] <rev-lemon> auto responce
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#1439 [18:35] <Calinou> TehBrawlGuy, tried updating your graphic card drivers?
#1440 [18:36] <Calinou> minecraft requires opengl 1.2 at least btw. did the game work fine before?
#1441 [18:36] <TehBrawlGuy> I have not.
#1442 [18:36] <TehBrawlGuy> Never worked.
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#1444 [18:36] <TehBrawlGuy> How would I go about updating my drivers?
#1445 [18:37] <TehBrawlGuy> and would that make sense considering it runs through MCerror? (albeit crashy)
#1446 [18:37] <Lardman> What is going on?
#1447 [18:38] <TehBrawlGuy> If I run MC just from the minecraft.exe, I blackscreen after it does the "updating minecraft" check to see if I have the latest version.
#1448 [18:39] <Lardman> What have you tried so far?
#1449 [18:39] <rev-lemon> TehBrawlGuy when it does the updateing screen does it stop at the end or in the middle somewhere ?
#1450 [18:39] <TehBrawlGuy> However, if I try running it through mcerror, it works and then crashes a few minutes later.
#1451 [18:39] <TehBrawlGuy> As soon as it finishes.
#1452 [18:39] <Calinou> try using the .jar launcher (marked as "linux/other")
#1453 [18:39] <Calinou> has been known to work better
#1454 [18:39] <TehBrawlGuy> I've re-installed minecraft and made sure I have the latest java,
#1455 [18:39] <TehBrawlGuy> I'll try that.
#1456 [18:40] <TehBrawlGuy> Also, classic works fine and in-browser also fails.
#1457 [18:41] <rev-lemon> classic is a different breed of minecraft < much much older
#1458 [18:41] <rev-lemon> ??> TehBrawlGuy win/dxdiag
#1459 [18:41] <VoxelHead> TehBrawlGuy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1460 [18:41] <VoxelHead> TehBrawlGuy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1461 [18:41] <TehBrawlGuy> The .jar seems to be working.
#1462 [18:42] <TehBrawlGuy> I'll play it for a few and see if it crashes,
#1463 [18:42] <TehBrawlGuy> ..just crashed.
#1464 [18:45] <TehBrawlGuy> http://pastebin.com/dqudgZ5Q
#1465 [18:45] <Calinou> what's your graphics card?
#1466 [18:45] <Calinou> oh wait nevermind
#1467 [18:45] <rev-lemon> Driver Date/Size: 12/4/2004 ATI MOBILITY RADEON X300
#1468 [18:45] <Calinou> that graphics card is pretty old... doubt it can even run minecraft playably
#1469 [18:46] <Calinou> it doesn't support opengl 1.2, so you're out of luck.
#1470 [18:46] <rev-lemon> it could do, have got other people to work but it needs updateing
#1471 [18:46] <rev-lemon> really, dang
#1472 [18:46] <Calinou> if you have opengl 1.2 but not opengl 1.3, a fallback is used to compensate the lack of multitexturing
#1473 [18:46] <TehBrawlGuy> I get a playable FPS with MCerror before it crashes, though.
#1474 [18:47] <Calinou> what do you consider "playable"? :P
#1475 [18:47] <TehBrawlGuy> 20-30fps, given the right settings.
#1476 [18:47] <TehBrawlGuy> with normal fog as well
#1477 [18:48] <Calinou> ah
#1478 [18:48] <TehBrawlGuy> I could always turn that down and get it even better.
#1479 [18:48] <Calinou> :o
#1480 [18:49] <Calinou> try updating your drivers maybe... but this graphics card is pretty old
#1481 [18:49] <TehBrawlGuy> I can run League of Legends even. (on min settings, though)
#1482 [18:49] <Calinou> if you're on a desktop, I suggest getting a new graphics card :P
#1483 [18:49] <TehBrawlGuy> Lappy.
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#1485 [18:50] <Calinou> try updating your drivers from AMD's website? don't use windows update :P
#1486 [18:50] <Calinou> ...if you can ever find them
#1487 [18:51] <uni0> hey guys, a friend of mine registered a new account but mistyped her email address, she made a ticket about 3 days ago but hasnt gotten any reply
#1488 [18:51] <uni0> can someone help?
#1489 [18:52] <rev-lemon> we arnt part of mojang so no, we cant help with that part sorry, the accounts department orwahtnot in mojang has to deal with that sorry
#1490 [18:52] <Calinou> support can take time to reply, mojang is getting thousands of emails every day, yet they have only 5 employees about support
#1491 [18:52] <Calinou> also, this channel isn't affiliated with mojang
#1492 [18:52] <uni0> ah ok thanks guys
#1493 [18:53] <Calinou> uni0, did she buy the game already?
#1494 [18:53] <uni0> yea
#1495 [18:53] <Calinou> :/
#1496 [18:53] <TehBrawlGuy> So, how do I update the drivers from AMD?
#1497 [18:53] <TehBrawlGuy> The auto-detect isn't working.
#1498 [18:53] <Calinou> "ATI MOBILITY RADEON X300" < that's your graphics card, try finding it
#1499 [18:53] <Calinou> auto-detect usually sucks anyway 8)
#1500 [18:53] <Calinou> auto-detect usually sucks anyway 8)
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#1503 [19:02] <Axx> Hey guys. Anybody willing to help? Having an issue with adventure map behaving...weird
#1504 [19:02] <Lardman> How so Axx?
#1505 [19:03] <Axx> Well, earlier today I had some trouble playing 'Survival Island' with a friend. A fellow on here helped me and we have been playing it.
#1506 [19:03] <Axx> We then decided to try another Map called 'The Tourist'. I have played this in SP and there is no combat in it its just a generic follow the story map
#1507 [19:04] <NinjaKirby> God damnit! ABFIAUBF
#1508 [19:04] * Lardman sedates NinjaKirby
#1508 [19:04] <Lardman> GO on Axx
#1509 [19:04] <NinjaKirby> There is definitely a derpy problem with the Nether in v1.2.5
#1510 [19:04] <NinjaKirby> Scuse me.
#1511 [19:04] <Axx> In the 'World' folder for the server, I pasted all the contents of the zip folder for 'The Tourist' as normal
#1512 [19:04] <Axx> Set the server up
#1513 [19:05] <Axx> Started Minecraft and the map loads up perfectly. However, there are mobs+the spawn point is not where it should be
#1514 [19:05] <Axx> Wondering if anybody can help me in what I'm doing wrong
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#1516 [19:06] <Lardman> Spawn points are messed up on a lot of maps, but you have to go to server.properties to turn off mob spawning
#1517 [19:06] <sup3rgh0st> Is there a way to render the holes in maps other than flying around? This is what it looks like now --> http://imgur.com/ecMAf
#1518 [19:07] <oldtopman> sup3rgh0st: No.
#1519 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> is that refined rules in Spawn Point positioning? I had MCEdit tell me once I needed secure blocks at Y64 once.
#1520 [19:07] <oldtopman> Why do you want chunks generated?
#1521 [19:07] <Axx> Which line d I need to change?
#1522 [19:07] <sup3rgh0st> Lag, and looks nicer
#1523 [19:07] <Axx> spawn-monsters=true
#1524 [19:07] <Lardman> Yea
#1525 [19:07] <Lardman> change that to false
#1526 [19:07] <lutzee> yes set to false
#1527 [19:07] <Axx> I think that might be it :P
#1528 [19:08] <lutzee> and spawn point should have been in a bus, however i played the map and it wasn't
#1529 [19:08] <lutzee> no biggy not hard to find your way
#1530 [19:08] <Axx> Yeah i played it in single player last night and thought my friend would like it. We played Xbox version a lot and just got PC version last night
#1531 [19:09] <Axx> Let me load this and check it out
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#1537 [19:15] <Axx> Worked a treat, apart from the spawn but I managed to find the way. Thank you for your help
#1538 [19:15] <Axx> @Lutzaa
#1539 [19:15] <lutzee> hehe
#1540 [19:15] <Axx> @lutzee**
#1541 [19:15] <Axx> :P
#1542 [19:15] <Lardman> Good to hear it is working
#1543 [19:16] <Lardman> Try setting some beds
#1544 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> "But I managed to find the way", that's some Song lyrics right there, I can't place it though.
#1545 [19:16] <TehBrawlGuy> So, how do I update my drivers?
#1546 [19:16] <Lardman> that may help with the spawn issue
#1547 [19:16] <lutzee> Lardman, it's a peaceful map :3 death is very unlikely
#1548 [19:16] <TehBrawlGuy> I went to AMD, and found the page for me (I think).
#1549 [19:16] <TehBrawlGuy> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#1550 [19:17] <Lardman> TehBrawlGuy uninstall your current drivers, then install those ones
#1551 [19:17] <TehBrawlGuy> and how do I do that?
#1552 [19:19] <Lardman> Are you on windows?
#1553 [19:20] <TehBrawlGuy> WIn XP.
#1554 [19:21] <Lardman> Okay, then go to device manager
#1555 [19:21] <Lardman> right click your graphics card and hit uninstall
#1556 [19:21] <TehBrawlGuy> Where is device manager?
#1557 [19:22] <TehBrawlGuy> I'm probably really stupid =v
#1558 [19:22] <Lardman> I have no idea on xp
#1559 [19:22] <Lardman> Search around in the control panel
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#1561 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> Right-click on My Computer, and choose properties - that's a good way to get to the device manager
#1562 [19:24] <lutzee> set control panel to the old layout
#1563 [19:24] <lutzee> or you know, try device manager in run :P
#1564 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> would that work in xp?
#1565 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> Run -> devmgmt.msc
#1566 [19:25] <lutzee> no idea
#1567 [19:25] <lutzee> er there ^
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#1569 [19:25] <TehBrawlGuy> Found it,
#1570 [19:25] <TehBrawlGuy> Says I have to restart my computer, so brb.
#1571 [19:25] <KazVorpal> I probably have the dumbest question of the day
#1572 [19:26] * NinjaKirby braces for impact
#1572 [19:26] <Lardman> Doubt it
#1573 [19:27] <KazVorpal> When I put a piece of wood in the 2x2 grid in inventory, it shows a 4 plank stack to the right...but how do I actually MAKE the stack?
#1574 [19:27] <KazVorpal> I tried clicking the arrow between them, hitting enter...
#1575 [19:27] <lutzee> click the stack..
#1576 [19:27] <KazVorpal> I'll try that again, but I think I did
#1577 [19:28] <KazVorpal> Yeah, nothing happens
#1578 [19:28] <lutzee> O.o
#1579 [19:28] <KazVorpal> I had previously played it on the xbox, is there some assumption I'm making wrong now that I'm on a PC with it?
#1580 [19:28] <NinjaKirby> wert, did you resize your Game window at all? Although I doubt it should actually affect it.
#1581 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> Doesn't for me actually, scratch that
#1582 [19:29] <KazVorpal> I was full screen, the clicks weren't aligning
#1583 [19:29] <KazVorpal> that's what was wrong
#1584 [19:29] <KazVorpal> is there a way to sync it so I can play full screen?
#1585 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> OH YEAH, Ung, say wut
#1586 [19:30] <KazVorpal> I mean so the clicks will be in the right place
#1587 [19:30] <KazVorpal> apparently, I won't be able to craft in full screen
#1588 [19:30] <NinjaKirby> I guess go fullscreen, exit to main menu and load the World/map again, hopefully it would tick into place
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#1590 [19:31] <NinjaKirby> Or go fullscreen before loading the map, heh, whichever way
#1591 [19:31] <KazVorpal> OK, thanx guys
#1592 [19:31] <NinjaKirby> It worked? Oh shieeeee-
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#1595 [19:32] <TehBrawlGuy> Oh crap.
#1596 [19:32] <lutzee> ?
#1597 [19:32] <TehBrawlGuy> So, I uninstalled my drivers, and ran the program from amd
#1598 [19:32] <TehBrawlGuy> It says it cannot find a compatible driver.
#1599 [19:33] <TehBrawlGuy> So, what do I do now?
#1600 [19:33] <clarjon1> what program
#1601 [19:33] <TehBrawlGuy> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#1602 [19:33] <TehBrawlGuy> option 1 on that page
#1603 [19:34] <TehBrawlGuy> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X300
#1604 [19:35] <TehBrawlGuy> Really, really need help, since my lappy is basically unusable until I get a driver.
#1605 [19:36] <lutzee> Contact AMD, say some idiots on the internet tried to help you update your drivers ;)
#1606 [19:36] <TehBrawlGuy> lol
#1607 [19:39] <TehBrawlGuy> Please tell me someone can at least help me get back where I was.
#1608 [19:39] <NinjaKirby> Second star on the right... then straight on till morning.
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#1610 [19:40] <NinjaKirby> May as well, before your PC is decommissioned.
#1611 [19:41] <TehBrawlGuy> As much as I enjoy the humor, I use this thing for school and I'm kind of boned if it does not work.
#1612 [19:41] <TehBrawlGuy> So.....
#1613 [19:41] <Lardman> Ah shit... sorry Teh...
#1614 [19:41] <Lardman> Teh you can still fix it
#1615 [19:42] * NinjaKirby refrains
#1615 [19:42] <TehBrawlGuy> How?
#1616 [19:42] <lutzee> actually you may have got a CD with your laptop on with drivers on it
#1617 [19:42] <Lardman> Well that ^
#1618 [19:42] <Scott> Or you can look on your manufacturers website.
#1619 [19:42] <Lardman> Or you could just use a dock and install it using another computer
#1620 [19:43] <TehBrawlGuy> Don't have the CD.
#1621 [19:44] <TehBrawlGuy> How would I go about installing it using another computer?
#1622 [19:44] <Lardman> You would need to take out the hard drive and get some sort of dock.
#1623 [19:44] <TehBrawlGuy> I couldn't use a flash drive or SD card?
#1624 [19:44] <Lardman> Then you would just specify where it should be installed
#1625 [19:45] <Scott> wait, what's going on?
#1626 [19:45] <Scott> Did the display quit working because of the driver update?
#1627 [19:45] <TehBrawlGuy> Didn't update.
#1628 [19:45] <Lardman> No I had an idiotic moment
#1629 [19:45] <TehBrawlGuy> AMD can't find my drivers.
#1630 [19:45] <Scott> Well tell me what's happening
#1631 [19:45] <TehBrawlGuy> I have about 500x400 that I'm working on.
#1632 [19:46] <Scott> what is the make and model?
#1633 [19:46] <Lardman> So you can stil see?
#1634 [19:46] <TehBrawlGuy> Well, yes, that's how I'm talking to you.
#1635 [19:46] <TehBrawlGuy> lol
#1636 [19:46] <TehBrawlGuy> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X300
#1637 [19:47] <Lardman> I just failed again... I am just a big failure today :/
#1638 [19:48] <Scott> no
#1639 [19:48] <Scott> what is the compute?
#1640 [19:48] <Scott> computer*
#1641 [19:48] <Scott> brb swithching to ipad
#1642 [19:49] <TehBrawlGuy> http://pastebin.com/dqudgZ5Q
#1643 [19:49] <Scott> Ok
#1644 [19:49] <Scott> Tell me the make and model of computer.
#1645 [19:49] <TehBrawlGuy> should be everything
#1646 [19:51] <Scott> look on the bottom and tell me the Dell service tag
#1647 [19:52] <Scott> nevermind
#1648 [19:52] <Scott> http%3a%2f%2fdownloads.dell.com%2fvideo%2fR106547.EXE
#1649 [19:53] <Scott> ughhh lol
#1650 [19:53] <Scott> Download and install this: http://downloads.dell.com/video/r106547.exe
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#1653 [19:57] <Xyka> Hello, I need hep.
#1654 [19:57] <Xyka> help*
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#1656 [19:58] <Xyka> Anyone?
#1657 [19:58] <Xyka> :s
#1658 [19:58] <AuroraTree> ?
#1659 [19:58] <Xyka> Oh, now I see the message. Okay I'll ask my question.
#1660 [19:58] <AuroraTree> :D okie
#1661 [19:59] <Xyka> I'm having problems buying Minecraft. I'm using Mastercard, but even after transferring to Paypal I still can't buy it. How can I get it?
#1662 [19:59] <AuroraTree> What do you mean by cant buy it?
#1663 [19:59] <AuroraTree> PayPal error?
#1664 [20:00] <Xyka> I either get "Moneybookers (Skrill) can't confirm this purchase to do a security error" or something like that, or "The purchase cannot be completed. Please see your merchant".
#1665 [20:01] <AuroraTree> Hm.
#1666 [20:01] <AuroraTree> Seems like a PayPal/not Mojang thing.
#1667 [20:01] <Xyka> :s
#1668 [20:01] <lutzee> You looked at the support on help.mojang.com ?
#1669 [20:01] <AuroraTree> Try again later, could be a server error.
#1670 [20:01] <Xyka> No solutions?
#1671 [20:01] <Xyka> Yeah, I looked.
#1672 [20:02] <Xyka> I've been trying for a week ._.
#1673 [20:02] <AuroraTree> So this has happened all week?
#1674 [20:02] <AuroraTree> Same error?
#1675 [20:03] <Xyka> Yeah.
#1676 [20:03] <AuroraTree> That's odd.
#1677 [20:03] <Xyka> My friend bought it on the weekend with no trouble. They used Visa.
#1678 [20:03] <AuroraTree> Has PayPal worked with other purchases?
#1679 [20:03] <Xyka> I never use Paypal.
#1680 [20:03] <Xyka> First time was today.
#1681 [20:03] <AuroraTree> Ah.
#1682 [20:03] <lutzee> You have paypal verified?
#1683 [20:03] <Xyka> Yup.
#1684 [20:04] <AuroraTree> That might be something to do with your credit card setup. Log into your PayPal and check all your details.
#1685 [20:04] <Xyka> Oh, hold on.
#1686 [20:04] <Xyka> I got an email from Paypal.
#1687 [20:04] <lutzee> The other option is you give the money to your friend and get them to use their card?
#1688 [20:04] <AuroraTree> ^
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#1690 [20:05] <AuroraTree> Ask him to buy a gift code.
#1691 [20:05] <AuroraTree> :s
#1692 [20:05] <TehBrawlGuy> WOO
#1693 [20:05] <AuroraTree> Great success.
#1694 [20:05] <TehBrawlGuy> Not only does my computer work again now, but MC seems to work!
#1695 [20:05] <AuroraTree> Gz
#1696 [20:05] <TehBrawlGuy> Scott, my undying love is yours.
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#1702 [20:21] <xTheFirecatx> Hello?
#1703 [20:22] <xTheFirecatx> I desperately need help with server trouble.
#1704 [20:22] <xTheFirecatx> I posted in the server support forum, but so far no one has offered any help
#1705 [20:22] <xTheFirecatx> It concerned opening a port with a AT&T/2WIRE router
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#1707 [20:23] <xTheFirecatx> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1270718-trouble-with-att-2wire-port-forwarding/
#1708 [20:24] <xTheFirecatx> I hope this clarifies things a little
#1709 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> I have to genuinely ask, does anyone else experience major framerate issues in the Nether, in the latest version? Even with Client connection to LAN Server, or in fact, on this very machine.
#1710 [20:25] <superkabii> NinjaKirby, yes, it's a lighting bug
#1711 [20:25] <NinjaKirby> Ah... so it's in the works, thanks SuperKabii
#1712 [20:26] <NinjaKirby> Making it quite the funky nightmare to build quickly.
#1713 [20:27] <xTheFirecatx> So I guess what I'm asking is that is there anyone that knows about port opening/port forwarding
#1714 [20:28] <superkabii> ;check xTheFirecatx
#1715 [20:28] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: adsl-70-131-53-176.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net:25565 (Timed out)
#1716 [20:28] <xTheFirecatx> ?
#1717 [20:29] <superkabii> strange, that att router framework is slightly older than anything I've seen
#1718 [20:29] <superkabii> but I don't see anything outstandingly incorrect in the setup
#1719 [20:29] <xTheFirecatx> That's what stumps me. I set up everything to the T and still nadda
#1720 [20:30] <xTheFirecatx> The router itself, as you may see, is a 2WIRE 2701HG-B
#1721 [20:30] <xTheFirecatx> I've read that AT&T routers in particular are a huge pain
#1722 [20:31] <superkabii> when I had att, I had no problems.. you might want to try assigning it by IP.
#1723 [20:31] <xTheFirecatx> how do I do that?
#1724 [20:34] <superkabii> not totally sure about that framework, but under the 'select a computer', do you see any options besides the names of computers?
#1725 [20:36] <xTheFirecatx> A few IP's, but they're internal IPs
#1726 [20:36] <xTheFirecatx> are you saying I should set it to my internal IP?
#1727 [20:37] <superkabii> if possible, yes.
#1728 [20:38] <xTheFirecatx> Should I remove the other settings? Like from my computer?
#1729 [20:39] <superkabii> you'd have to, or else you couldn't reassign your Minecraft application
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#1731 [20:40] <xTheFirecatx> okay then
#1732 [20:41] <xTheFirecatx> Okay, now to test it out
#1733 [20:42] <xTheFirecatx> hmm, yougetsignal.com still reads it as closed
#1734 [20:44] <superkabii> ahh, sorry then. was just a total suggestion, although when I did that it worked out for me.
#1735 [20:44] <xTheFirecatx> It's alright, thanks for the help ^^
#1736 [20:45] <xTheFirecatx> I wonder if it has to do with the age of the router
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#1742 [21:11] <TehBrawlGuy> Okay, so now MC is crashing for a different reason.
#1743 [21:12] <TehBrawlGuy> It says I do not have enough virtual memory.
#1744 [21:12] <TehBrawlGuy> Now, bearing in mind I have 2 GB RAM and I have 3070 MB devoted to virtual memory, I know this is crap.
#1745 [21:12] <TehBrawlGuy> Why is MC doing this?
#1746 [21:13] <TehBrawlGuy> It happens even with nothing else running, which is baffling to me.
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#1750 [21:21] <Zeph_aw> Question: i installed the stuff for mods but when i load the mod then try to craft somethings the game crash, why ?
#1751 [21:23] <Zeph_aw> no1 is here or am i muted ? :P
#1752 [21:27] <Zeph_aw> end of stream :/
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#1755 [21:39] <Det0Nat3> I have a strange error, I host a SMP server on Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, everyone can connect find but one person gets a "end of stream" error at random intervals. I can confirm this happens on a brand new install of ubuntu and minecraft. if I run the server from windows he can play without issues.
#1756 [21:40] <Det0Nat3> Looking for any ideas at all as I've tried everything I could think of
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#1758 [21:42] <username> ....
#1759 [21:42] <username> Anyone here?
#1760 [21:42] <username> Anyone here?
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#1764 [21:54] <|Anthony|> I'm running a small server and would like to load test to see how slots would be safe to open up. I currently have 5 slots open and it seems to run just fine when full.
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#1766 [21:55] <|Anthony|> I did read the wonderfully written forum post that details how bandwidth is used and following that guide it suggest about 7 iirc
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#1777 [22:34] <Dan> is there a way to change the end text so then i can record it with my ending credits
#1778 [22:36] <Dan> well the win.txt text in a texture pack
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#1780 [22:41] <Dan> does anyone know what im talking about?
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#1782 [22:43] <TehBrawlGuy> So, despite it running fine earlier, MC is saying I don't have enough virtual memory to run.
#1783 [22:43] <TehBrawlGuy> Ugh.
#1784 [22:43] <TehBrawlGuy> How do I fix that?
#1785 [22:43] <zkxs> Dan, you should be able to edit the win.txt in minecraft.jar. (The actual game jar, not the launcher)
#1786 [22:44] <TehBrawlGuy> I have 4.7 gigs free on my HD, and 2 gigs RAM.
#1787 [22:44] <Dan> zkxs, im not trying to edit the .jar win.txt im trying to change the texture pack that im working on for my recordings win.txt
#1788 [22:46] <zkxs> Dan: Oh, that works too. You should have something like texturepack.zip/title/win.txt
#1789 [22:46] <Wug> TehBrawlGuy: ctrl+alt+delete. check your free ram, it sounds like there isnt very muchy
#1790 [22:46] <Dan> zkxs, well i did that and i made sure i was on the right texture pack but it didnt change at all
#1791 [22:46] <zkxs> I get all my virtual ram from http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
#1792 [22:47] * Wug kicks zkxs from every channel
#1792 [22:47] <Eddie> ^
#1793 [22:47] <zkxs> lol
#1794 [22:47] <TehBrawlGuy> Where do I see my free RAM?
#1795 [22:48] <Wug> if you go to the resources tab there should be some pretty graphs
#1796 [22:48] <Wug> one of those should detail ram usage
#1797 [22:48] <TehBrawlGuy> I don't have a resources tab
#1798 [22:48] <TehBrawlGuy> running xp
#1799 [22:48] <Wug> in the task manager?
#1800 [22:48] <Wug> try all of them
#1801 [22:48] <Wug> one has graphs
#1802 [22:48] <TehBrawlGuy> performance has CPU usage and page file usage
#1803 [22:49] <Wug> how much page file is used
#1804 [22:49] <TehBrawlGuy> 1.04 gigs right now, so about half
#1805 [22:49] <Wug> try right clicking things and exploring the menus to see if you can find one for general memory usage
#1806 [22:49] <zkxs> dxdiag can also give us mem usage
#1807 [22:49] <Wug> zkxs: can it? I dont recall
#1808 [22:49] <Wug> im on ubuntu so i cant help specifically
#1809 [22:50] <TehBrawlGuy> It's not a pretty graph, but I have stats for physical memory.
#1810 [22:50] <Wug> brb acquiring ice cream
#1811 [22:50] <Dan> Wug, i am too so i just stay out of it
#1812 [22:50] <TehBrawlGuy> This is ram, yes?
#1813 [22:50] <Wug> yep
#1814 [22:50] <Wug> how full is it
#1815 [22:50] <TehBrawlGuy> about half
#1816 [22:50] <Wug> also, are you trying to launch java with a script
#1817 [22:50] <TehBrawlGuy> I'm trying to just launch it through the .exe
#1818 [22:51] <Wug> :tv > TehBrawlGuy
#1819 [22:51] <WugBot> TehBrawlGuy: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1820 [22:51] <WugBot> TehBrawlGuy: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1821 [22:51] <Wug> VoxelHead: I'm going to kill you
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#1824 [23:36] <Soubigo> I just installed installed Minecraft on a new PC for the first time and the sound is not working.
#1825 [23:38] <Moose> errr
#1826 [23:39] <Moose> hey Wug, want to help me out?
#1827 [23:39] <Moose> or Scott.
#1828 [23:39] <Moose> or Eddie.
#1829 [23:39] <Moose> oh, wrong channel.
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