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#3 [00:16] <Wug> Soubigo: mmk
#4 [00:16] <Wug> have you tried updating the sound drivers
#5 [00:16] <Wug> is the volume stuck at 0% and minecraft either crashes or will not let you set it higher when you try?
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#8 [00:30] <Dan> hey how come i cant use half slabs to cover redstone dust
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#19 [04:02] <rasamalai> Hi
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#29 [05:14] <Mox> Hey guys
#30 [05:14] <Mox> So basicly, I have a fresh off Windows XP installed on my comp.
#31 [05:15] <Mox> My installed a couple of things
#32 [05:15] <Mox> Then I installed Java, and Minecraft.
#33 [05:15] <Mox> The problem: The menu is all glitched up (the game propably too)
#34 [05:16] <Mox> Yes, I attemped 'Force Update'. Didn't do anything :/
#35 [05:16] <Mox> Any help, please?
#36 [05:16] <auscompgeek> Mox: explain how it is "all glitched up".
#37 [05:16] <Mox> Pastebin?
#38 [05:17] <Mox> Brb
#39 [05:17] <Mox> Oh, that's the text serive
#40 [05:17] <Mox> ImageShack, then
#41 [05:20] <Mox> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/minecraftglitch.png
#42 [05:20] <Mox> There you go
#43 [05:20] <Mox> As you can see, not many programs or games installed.
#44 [05:23] <auscompgeek> Are your graphics drivers up-to-date?
#45 [05:24] <Mox> Depends. I used the CD that came with the Graphic Card
#46 [05:24] <Mox> I have DirectX 9c installed, and the Java is the newest.
#47 [05:24] <auscompgeek> That's probably not up-to-date then.
#48 [05:24] <Mox> So... Update drivers, from NVidia?
#49 [05:24] * auscompgeek nods
#49 [05:25] <Mox> Cool, I'll try that
#50 [05:25] <Mox> BTW, will NVidia drivers work on the PNY GeForce cards?
#51 [05:26] <auscompgeek> No idea on that.
#52 [05:27] <Mox> Ok then.
#53 [05:27] * Mox wanders off to NVidia.
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#58 [06:26] <Guest> mc.ember-craft.net
#59 [06:26] <Guest> mc.ember-craft.net
#60 [06:26] <Guest> mc.ember-craft.net
#61 [06:26] <Guest> mc.ember-craft.net
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#68 [06:59] <Mox> Lol, updating Video Drivers and restarting the comp, made it look like Windows 3.1/95
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#71 [07:20] <pokey> Ok, so i have tried to register, but i am not receiving the email with the verification code. :/
#72 [07:50] <Teekeks> you also need to buy in order to get an code
#73 [07:50] <Teekeks> ouch, too late
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#93 [10:37] <domfliss2000> Hi guys, can I ask a question?
#94 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> sure
#95 [10:39] <domfliss2000> If I purchase the minecraft license, does it enable to me to play on mac and pc?
#96 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> yes
#97 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> and linux as well
#98 [10:39] <domfliss2000> oh that's great. wasn't sure if I could. I'm thinking about buying it, LOL
#99 [10:39] <domfliss2000> good old Linux!!!
#100 [10:40] <domfliss2000> if you reinstall it though at a later date do you have to be connected to the net?
#101 [10:41] <DiskDaemon> You have to be connected for account verification
#102 [10:41] <DiskDaemon> Once verified though, you don't have to be connected. If already verified and it cannot contact the server, you can continue on through
#103 [10:42] <domfliss2000> OK thanks. So if I play on my mac and and wife plays on her PC, we can use the sam license?
#104 [10:42] <Morrolan> Yes, you can't play online at the same time though.
#105 [10:42] <Morrolan> Singleplayer will work, however.
#106 [10:42] <DiskDaemon> technically I think that's possible, but ethically I have issues
#107 [10:42] <Morrolan> Well, at the very least it is not possible to play on the same server. On different servers it might just work, true.
#108 [10:43] <Morrolan> Actually, if the server checks the auth ticket after the login it might not. *shrug*
#109 [10:43] <domfliss2000> Thanks for that. so, is it only a one time verification? I'm old school and like to own things and would be a bit cheesed if the company disappeared and I couldn't be verified on that account, LOL
#110 [10:44] <Morrolan> Err, if Mojang would disappear and you'd delete the files then you'd have some trouble in redownloading them.
#111 [10:44] <Morrolan> Apart from that you can play without a connection to their server.
#112 [10:44] <DiskDaemon> as long as the lastlogin file remains in the .minecraft/ folder, which is created/updated when you successfully log in, there's no trouble
#113 [10:45] <domfliss2000> oh that's great. I don't like having to think that the game is mine only as long as the company survives, however unlikely, LOL
#114 [10:45] <Morrolan> Is it really necessary to append a "LOL" to every sentence?
#115 [10:46] <|Anthony|> domfliss2000, remember a time when you could go to store and give them money and you leave with a product? now they want your address, phone number, bolld type
#116 [10:46] <Morrolan> Makes you, atleast in my eyes, look a bit silly.
#117 [10:46] <lukegb> Yes LOL
#118 [10:46] <|Anthony|> it's insane
#119 [10:46] <domfliss2000> It looks pretty good. My gaming has kind of being on a downward spiral (my age I think) and I was looking for something to rejuvenate it.
#120 [10:46] <domfliss2000> I know, they were the days. Loading a game and going for Sunday dinner and hoping to hell it would load!!
#121 [10:46] <lukegb> Morrolan: it doesn't work because you can't be logged in multiple times to the same server :P
#122 [10:46] <|Anthony|> domfliss2000, if you don't mind me asking, what's your age?
#123 [10:46] <domfliss2000> 38 this year
#124 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> Tell them, no. I don't want to give you my details. I want to give your my money in return for that product. That is it.
#125 [10:47] <lukegb> Unless you mean different servers, in which case yeah, you can
#126 [10:47] <|Anthony|> domfliss2000, well done! i'm 30
#127 [10:47] <DiskDaemon> 38 here
#128 [10:47] <domfliss2000> LOL, yeah I made it man!!
#129 [10:47] <lukegb> 17 here.
#130 [10:47] <lukegb> :(
#131 [10:47] <Morrolan> lukegb - If my memory serves me right, that's what I said somewhere up there, yea. :P
#132 [10:47] <lukegb> Morrolan: I was just clarifying... :3
#133 [10:47] <Morrolan> We all agree, yay!
#134 [10:47] <lukegb> \o/
#135 [10:47] <domfliss2000> had my Spectrum in 1986 and then Atari Amiga and then PC. Finally went to mac and use virtual machines.
#136 [10:48] <domfliss2000> When I go into a computer store I feel like a geriatric.
#137 [10:48] <|Anthony|> right?
#138 [10:49] <domfliss2000> every so often I will fire up the first Age Of Empires or Grand Prix 2.
#139 [10:49] <|Anthony|> i'm seen as a juvenile nerd for running a mc server
#140 [10:50] <domfliss2000> I think girls see computers as porn without the girls. We just love them to much, LOL
#141 [10:50] <|Anthony|> wifey gets pissed with the time i spend on the comp
#142 [10:51] <|Anthony|> like i'm having an affair with a machine
#143 [10:51] <|Anthony|> 0.o
#144 [10:51] <domfliss2000> LOL. Mine, sits next to me when I fly X-Plane and asks where I am going. I always reply....not far enough!!
#145 [10:51] <|Anthony|> lmao
#146 [10:51] <|Anthony|> so true
#147 [10:51] <domfliss2000> Lets not talk about floppy
#148 [10:51] <|Anthony|> oh dear
#149 [10:51] <domfliss2000> saying you have 3.5 inches is depressing
#150 [10:52] <domfliss2000> it always gets me down
#151 [10:52] <|Anthony|> dude, i'm hung like a seahorse
#152 [10:52] <domfliss2000> I've got a tape drive
#153 [10:52] <ac3xx> wow
#154 [10:52] <domfliss2000> LOL
#155 [10:52] <ac3xx> just, wow
#156 [10:52] <|Anthony|> bill hicks qoute
#157 [10:52] <|Anthony|> funniest comedian to ever die
#158 [10:53] <domfliss2000> This is my first time using an irc, very helpful guys
#159 [10:53] <|Anthony|> domfliss2000, you've entered the dark ally of internet nerds
#160 [10:53] * Morrolan robs |Anthony|
#160 [10:53] <|Anthony|> it's hard to leave once you find your way in
#161 [10:54] * |Anthony| tazes Morrolan
#161 [10:54] <domfliss2000> ahhh, I wonder why the lights were off and there crisp packets everywhere!!
#162 [10:54] * Morrolan is dazzled
#162 [10:54] * |Anthony| enters the ghetto prepared
#162 [10:54] <Morrolan> Never has anyone tazerd me before. D:
#163 [10:54] <|Anthony|> lol
#164 [10:54] <Morrolan> tasered*
#165 [10:54] <domfliss2000> Anthony, not sure how you link, lol
#166 [10:54] <|Anthony|> oh
#167 [10:55] <domfliss2000> I downloaded Colloquy and running it from the dmg
#168 [10:55] <|Anthony|> small role play server
#169 [10:55] <domfliss2000> how I got to this room was complete luck. I think the stars are in the right place.
#170 [10:56] <domfliss2000> So, Minecraft is worth getting?
#171 [10:56] <|Anthony|> roles focus on specific aspects of normal mc game play like building, crafting, demolitions
#172 [10:56] <|Anthony|> minecraft is a great casual game
#173 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> Combined with the Minecraft wiki, you'll go a long way http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki
#174 [10:56] <domfliss2000> I loved Mercenary and Damocles so free wandering is always nice.
#175 [10:57] <domfliss2000> Thanks DiskDaemon for the link.
#176 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> The only issue with Minecraft is that it doesn't make it easy to know how to do things, so places such as the wiki can help to open up such information for yuu
#177 [10:57] <domfliss2000> I got the half term to wander, so plenty of time, LOL
#178 [10:57] <domfliss2000> Are you on Linux?
#179 [10:59] <DiskDaemon> Not myself, no - I primarily use PC's, since I tend to support many people uses them too
#180 [10:59] <DiskDaemon> although Linux and I are no strangers
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#182 [11:01] <domfliss2000> Linux really appeals to me. I have it as a virtual machine and like it a lot. You know that Mountain Lion will only allow you to get apps from the app store when it comes out. You can turn it off, but it's one more button to press for freedom. When Apple completely remove the user from software choice I'll go to Linux full time.
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#184 [11:05] <domfliss2000> Thanks for your help, I'm off to buy it now.
#185 [11:06] <|Anthony|> domfliss2000, running linux in a vm doesn't give you all of the benefits
#186 [11:07] <|Anthony|> domfliss2000 such as lighter resource consumption
#187 [11:08] <domfliss2000> Yeah, I know. But as it's sitting on top of a UNIX OS, it can't be that bad. LOL. I set it up with only 256 megs of ram, so it's not that juicy.
#188 [11:08] <|Anthony|> lol
#189 [11:08] <Calinou> minecraft requires 1GB of RAM to run playably, ideally 2GB - this is java 8)
#190 [11:09] <Boreeas> domfliss2000: Funny, that's exactly what a friend of mine said, too. He is using OS X right now, but he is going to switch to Ubuntu soon :P
#191 [11:09] <Calinou> noobuntu
#192 [11:09] <Boreeas> Calinou: Actually, setting the RAM too high can worsen Java's performance
#193 [11:09] <|Anthony|> garbage mule
#194 [11:09] <Calinou> I wonder how many ubuntu users will do (the command that removes everything) if they're told to do so
#195 [11:09] <Calinou> lol
#196 [11:09] <domfliss2000> I use VMware Fusion and Parallels. Fusion is better and cleaner, but parallels adds 3D support. Yeah Apple are quality, but the user is having less and less input.
#197 [11:09] <Calinou> Boreeas, I know
#198 [11:09] <Calinou> not talking about RAM allocation but global ram in the computer
#199 [11:10] <Boreeas> Calinou: I won't. Anyone switching to Ubuntu probably knows to check the man pages before peforming an unknown command
#200 [11:10] <Boreeas> At least I expect them to be somewhat tech-savy :P
#201 [11:10] <Calinou> "probably"
#202 [11:10] <Calinou> ^ :P
#203 [11:10] <Calinou> this was just a theory anyway. :P
#204 [11:10] <domfliss2000> I have 8GB in my mac, and find that setting one core and low amount of memory really works. Plus I love the fact that I can transfer files back and forth
#205 [11:10] <|Anthony|> new ubuntu user "whats a man page"
#206 [11:10] <|Anthony|> "i;m not gay"
#207 [11:11] <Boreeas> |Anthony|: Hah, I knew about man pages even before switching :P
#208 [11:11] <|Anthony|> same
#209 [11:11] <|Anthony|> i actually run ubuntu 10.04 on this box
#210 [11:11] <domfliss2000> my friend came and was amazed at seeing Oblivion being played in a window next to mac stuff, LOL
#211 [11:11] <|Anthony|> but haven't switched to arch like i've been thinking about
#212 [11:12] <Calinou> arch sucks, period
#213 [11:12] <|Anthony|> really?
#214 [11:12] <|Anthony|> why
#215 [11:12] <Calinou> because, it's used by "real" (see the quotes) linuxians to show off their "skills".
#216 [11:12] <|Anthony|> debian was next choice
#217 [11:12] <Calinou> yeah, I'm a "fake" linuxian because I use out-of-the-box distros? they're just simpler.
#218 [11:12] <|Anthony|> lol about the "skills" think
#219 [11:12] <Calinou> debian is great, most distros based on it too
#220 [11:13] <|Anthony|> i've found ubunutu to be less than stable
#221 [11:13] <Calinou> ubuntu is quite stable. mint too
#222 [11:13] <|Anthony|> not for me
#223 [11:13] <domfliss2000> I just wish Linux had a bit more of a universal approach. It always seems a bit patchy, but it's just sooooo romantic!!
#224 [11:16] <Calinou> linux is shit for gaming, due to drivers and compatibility.
#225 [11:16] <Calinou> mostly drivers
#226 [11:16] <Calinou> you can hardly enjoy FOSS games due to drivers sometimes
#227 [11:17] <|Anthony|> what about valve?
#228 [11:17] <domfliss2000> thats's where there needs to a bit of uniformity. Makes it accessible to the masses instead of being to referred to as a geek only OS.
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#230 [11:18] <DiskDaemon> that's the trouble though, the lack of uniformity allows it to be usefula nd acceptalb ein a wide variety of situations
#231 [11:19] <domfliss2000> Mind you, I set Mint up for some of my students who's English is a second language, and they love it. Had it been XP/7 I fear it would now be looking at new install, LOL
#232 [11:19] <DiskDaemon> Ooer - time to hit the hay
#233 [11:19] <Morrolan> Making it "accessible" to the masses is mostly the DE's job, and I think Gnome does a pretty good job at that.
#234 [11:19] <domfliss2000> Disk, where you at? Don't say OZ!!
#235 [11:20] <DiskDaemon> Nearly, NZ.
#236 [11:21] <Grim_Reaper> Gnomes? where! I want one as a pet
#237 [11:22] <domfliss2000> I knew I must be close. I added you as a buddy mate, is that OK?
#238 [11:22] <domfliss2000> I need all the friends I can get. The dog even hates me now!! All because I changed his food!
#239 [11:23] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#240 [11:23] <Grim_Reaper> Offer him a human leg
#241 [11:23] <Grim_Reaper> Dogs love chewing on legs
#242 [11:23] <DiskDaemon> sure thing
#243 [11:23] <Morrolan> He'll start chewing on it anyway, only difference is whether you get to amputate it yourself or whether he'll do it.
#244 [11:23] * Grim_Reaper chews on a leg from yesterdays playmate..
#244 [11:24] <domfliss2000> LOL. Give a dog a bone......
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#249 [11:47] <doblez> Hello! Does anyone hear have a good knowledge? Because i have a connection problem.. :)
#250 [11:47] <Calinou> what connection problem? we need more info.
#251 [11:48] <doblez> This problem http://pastebin.com/ZxYYK8bd
#252 [11:49] <Calinou> it's not the first time I see this error... :/ someone yesterday had a similar error
#253 [11:50] <doblez> Yeah that was me yesterday too :)
#254 [11:50] <Calinou> ooh, okay
#255 [11:50] <doblez> And i can login fine on my lapton, so it isnt the login....
#256 [11:50] <doblez> laptop*
#257 [11:51] <doblez> And i tried to do a system restore, and it couldnt complete because of my antivirus (eset smart security), so i turned it off and wanted to try to restore it again, but the system restore point was gone..
#258 [11:52] <doblez> Because this error started happening after i updated my antivirus, but i cant downgrade the version of the actual program... :(
#259 [11:55] <Calinou> disable your antivirus and your firewall temporarily
#260 [11:55] <Calinou> BTW, paid antiviruses suck :P
#261 [11:55] <Calinou> and try running minecraft
#262 [11:55] <Grim_Reaper> pfft
#263 [11:55] <Grim_Reaper> Calinou you think everything sucks :<
#264 [11:56] <doblez> I did that
#265 [11:57] <Boreeas> 's/everything/a that Calinou doesn\'t use'
#266 [11:58] <Calinou> why the a?
#267 [12:00] <doblez> FOUND IT!
#268 [12:03] <doblez> Thanks for the time you spent trying to figure out the problem :)
#269 [12:04] <Boreeas> Calinou: Append
#270 [12:04] <Calinou> k
#271 [12:04] <Boreeas> I might have used it wrong, I don't really use sed all that much
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#274 [12:14] <Lauren> Any red stone experts care to take a look at this image and work out what I'm doing wrong?
#275 [12:15] <Necrodoom> paste
#276 [12:15] <Lauren> It's an imgur link :)
#277 [12:15] <Lauren> http://imgur.com/G9UoF
#278 [12:16] <Lauren> Sticky pistons wired with redstone to a pressure plate
#279 [12:16] <Lauren> When I jump on the plate, the door doesn't open
#280 [12:16] <Lauren> :S
#281 [12:16] <Necrodoom> this is soo wrong
#282 [12:16] <Lauren> :'(
#283 [12:16] <Necrodoom> link redstone to block under the torch
#284 [12:17] <Necrodoom> and link redstone to the side of the plate block
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#286 [12:20] <doblez> Hello, and im back with another problem :)
#287 [12:21] <doblez> New error log, and now it happens when i try to connect to a server, because i am able to login, but i cant connect to servers.... http://pastebin.com/iAmnvrQS
#288 [12:26] <Lauren> @Necrodoom that worked a treat thanks a lot :D
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#290 [12:41] <Yopla> Hello
#291 [12:42] <Yopla> Is it possible to buy Minecraft with Paysafecard ?
#292 [12:43] <Yopla> Is there anyone ? ^^
#293 [12:43] <Calinou> hi frenchie :P
#294 [12:43] <Yopla> xD Spotted
#295 [12:44] <Calinou> Yopla, not sure, but you can use paypal. you can add money to paypal using PSC afaik
#296 [12:44] <Calinou> you cannot use paypal to buy gift codes, only a premium status for an account
#297 [12:44] <Yopla> Mmmh... I haven't hear that before, but if it's true it will solve all my problems !
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#299 [12:45] <Yopla> I'm going to try that, I'll tell you if it works.
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#316 [14:51] <Guest38097> hi
#317 [14:52] <Guest38097> i have a question about monster spawners, i am quite new in minecraft
#318 [14:52] <skip> hello, this is all rather new to me :-0 we've downloaded the game, java, etc, but when my son is playing, it quickly says "memory full" and ends the game
#319 [14:54] <skip> monster spawners are eggs in different colours that spawn monsters when you press the place button. But the monsters are friendly, not evil
#320 [14:54] <Guest38097> haha
#321 [14:55] <skip> well, hope that was helpful, at least you're managing to play the game- no joy here :-(
#322 [14:55] <notfunny> i also detected that with my pc after some playing everything gets slower, but i havent seen this memory full message yet :P
#323 [14:56] <notfunny> is it a new pc ?
#324 [14:56] <skip> yes it is brand new, 500GB memory and 8GB RAM...
#325 [14:56] <notfunny> hm ok
#326 [14:57] <notfunny> i have like 1 gb
#327 [14:57] <notfunny> the problem with my monster spawner is that it doesnt work :P
#328 [14:58] <skip> I'm sure it's just me being an old duffer and we haven't done the downloading bit right, are you using a dungeon monster spawner, maybe try it at night
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#330 [14:59] <lutzee> Skip, there are ways off making minecraft use more memory, as it only uses 1gb by default
#331 [14:59] <notfunny> ii found a monster spawner and removed the "roof" of it and replaced it with glass, so that i could look inside, but it should still spawn also at day even if it is light in the dungeon?
#332 [15:00] <skip> ok, would be very grateful to know what they are/
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#334 [15:01] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/818830-allocating-more-memory-to-minecraft/
#335 [15:01] <notfunny> i dont want to stay out at night, since i am just without much armor and stuff
#336 [15:02] <notfunny> but i dont know whether they also spawn in daylight or not
#337 [15:03] <skip> thanks so much lutzee, we'll have a look there. notfunny, you don't need armour if you quickly go and check on your spawner, then sneak back
#338 [15:03] <notfunny> my question is simple: does a spawner spawn monster in daylight ?
#339 [15:04] <skip> Not that i know of
#340 [15:04] <notfunny> i could add some dark room over the glass, so that it is dark in the dungeon and check again
#341 [15:05] <notfunny> wenn i dug out the dungeon i also flooded it shortly, so i thought maybe it was damaged
#342 [15:05] <skip> :) that would work
#343 [15:05] <notfunny> the dark room or the flooding ?
#344 [15:05] <skip> that wouldn't damage the spawner
#345 [15:06] <skip> the dark room should cure your problem re spawning
#346 [15:06] <notfunny> and behind it there is a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong dark cave which goes on endlessly ...
#347 [15:06] <notfunny> sorry
#348 [15:07] <skip> possibly the monsters spawn and then go into the cave so you can't see them....
#349 [15:08] <notfunny> no it is not connected to the cave
#350 [15:08] <skip> oh ok, just an idea
#351 [15:08] <notfunny> i went to the dessert and dug out some area and heard a lot of noise, so i found a big cave, i dug out like the first 5% of it, and this is connected to the spawner
#352 [15:09] <notfunny> the spawner is closed with a glass roof and a door to enter
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#354 [15:09] <notfunny> i went down the cave in peaceful but it goes on and on ^^
#355 [15:09] <skip> maybe it needs an open hole above and darkness
#356 [15:10] <notfunny> and i took out all this green stone
#357 [15:10] <skip> could be slime
#358 [15:10] <notfunny> slime ?
#359 [15:11] <notfunny> i mean this green cobble stone which is only in these spawnerareas
#360 [15:11] <lutzee> mossy cobblestone
#361 [15:12] <notfunny> the dungeon is now safe, but i wanted to build my home there and this endless cave scares me :P
#362 [15:12] <skip> no, its a new type of stone which only appears around a spawner
#363 [15:13] <skip> not a good idea, because all the monsters will spawn in your house
#364 [15:13] <notfunny> that happened in a world before, i built some big pyramide and always skeleton spawned in the first level
#365 [15:14] <notfunny> but only when i was outside
#366 [15:14] <notfunny> how does sleeping in multiplayer work ?
#367 [15:15] <skip> the best place to build a house is a big open area with trees around the house to stop creepers getting near and to stop skeletons shooting at you
#368 [15:15] <skip> sorry, don't know
#369 [15:15] <notfunny> i now have some 5x5 wooden cabin at the beach, havent seen any monsters near :P
#370 [15:16] <lutzee> Sleeping in multiplayer, every character has to sleep to change the time, however at night if you lie in a bed it will set your spawn
#371 [15:16] <notfunny> habent built much yet, just wanted to dig out some big area and then the noise came
#372 [15:16] <skip> sou nds like a great place to build, beaches are good because monsters don't like water
#373 [15:17] <notfunny> ok beach is wrong, its more like the end of a dersert which directly is newar water :P
#374 [15:17] <notfunny> yesterday, i opened a new world and spawned in the middle of the ocean, no land in sight, that was not so nice :D
#375 [15:17] <skip> same effect, all water repels monsters
#376 [15:18] <notfunny> swum for some miles and found some 20x20 sand banks without trees
#377 [15:18] <skip> at least no monsters
#378 [15:18] <skip> :D
#379 [15:18] <notfunny> and after swiiming for 3 minutes my pc frooze
#380 [15:18] <notfunny> was to much for it :P
#381 [15:19] <skip> poor you, sounds like we're all having pc problems!
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#383 [15:20] <notfunny> na the game works fine, but i have a 7 year old laptop and minecraft looks friendlier than it is relating to pc-ressources
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#385 [15:21] <skip> ok we're gonna try the memory help website from lutzee, good luck notfunny,
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#387 [15:22] <notfunny> oh i should check that out too
#388 [15:25] <lutzee> If you need any assistance just ask
#389 [15:26] <notfunny> ok not good for me, i only have 1 gb, there is no more memory :P
#390 [15:29] <lutzee> hehe i'm surprised you can even run it with that much..
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#392 [15:33] <ICountFrom0> Might somebody here be willing to hold me by the hand and help me out with a world that became inaccessible due to power outage?
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#395 [15:41] <ICountFrom0> Ok, maybe a simpler question, where does minecraft keep the local world file, maybe I can manage it myself?
#396 [15:41] <Finamenon> probably in the .minecraft folder in your users folder
#397 [15:41] <Finamenon> unless its a server then its wherever you put it
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#399 [15:44] <krebbit> Hey my sons version of minecraft has crashed, he can no longer play the stand alone and has to go online all the time to play. How can I download the game again? I would like to uninstall and then reinstall as he is bugging me about missing minecraft. His account is premium but I see no link to download for reinstall
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#401 [15:45] <ICountFrom0> ok, bad news, no ".minecraft" folder, and I didn't set it up as a server.
#402 [15:45] <krebbit> Also Im scared to unistall until I figure out how to get it back on
#403 [15:47] <Finamenon> ICount theres gotta be one
#404 [15:47] <Finamenon> its in a hidden folder likely
#405 [15:47] <Finamenon> C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft
#406 [15:48] <Morrolan> krebbit - Start the launcher -> options -> force update, then log in, This'll force it to redownload the files.
#407 [15:49] <lutzee> do %appdata% in explorer
#408 [15:50] <ICountFrom0> ah, that's faster then forcing a search of non indexed space, thanks... I feel so old and out of touch, used to be, you could simply tell a computer to show you hidden files
#409 [15:50] <Finamenon> you still can, lutzee just has the better idea lol
#410 [15:51] <ICountFrom0> Yha, but I thought I'd already SET show hidden, and it's telling me it was already set, and then it still hides things from me.
#411 [15:51] <ICountFrom0> ah, bingo "session.lock" that's the file to remove
#412 [15:51] <lutzee> you need to replace it
#413 [15:52] <lutzee> Other wise minecraft won't see the orld file
#414 [15:52] <ICountFrom0> lovely... back in the old days lock files where simply deleted ... things defaulted to an unlocked state.
#415 [15:53] <ICountFrom0> and it's not human readable content, guess my world dies here
#416 [15:53] <ICountFrom0> I now regret spending the money
#417 [15:54] <Finamenon> you learned the lesson of many
#418 [15:54] <Finamenon> always make backups
#419 [15:54] <ICountFrom0> no, I learned the lesson, that I should have pirated it first, tested to see if the game was one that was robust, and then bought it only if it was worth money
#420 [15:55] <Finamenon> if all your world files are still there it might still be salvageable
#421 [15:55] <ICountFrom0> I learned that the game, under the hood, is not worth the cost, and will tell my friends
#422 [15:55] <Finamenon> im not sure exactly how, but all the physical data is sitll there unless that somehow got corrupted too
#423 [15:55] <ICountFrom0> I learned that there's aparently no offical suport channels made aviblble by the company, and they do not seem to care.
#424 [15:56] <ICountFrom0> I should have taken that as a warning sign, "don't contact us, go to this forum with problems" is a bad sign
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#426 [15:57] <ICountFrom0> well, I'll stop grumbling here, and go try that infernal forum.
#427 [15:59] <krebbit> I kinda feel that same way, the game is sort of incomplete feeling, mods and skins should be more straight forward and no mod-loader should be needed.
#428 [16:00] <lutzee> There will be a modding API soon, just takes time
#429 [16:00] <ICountFrom0> Oh, and to reply directly, data that can't be accessed, is worthless data, taking up space on my HD, without serving useful function. So it's worse then no data at all.
#430 [16:00] <ICountFrom0> Oh, and to reply directly, data that can't be accessed, is worthless data, taking up space on my HD, without serving useful function. So it's worse then no data at all.
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#432 [16:00] <oldtopman> ICountFrom0: Jeez man, chill out.
#433 [16:00] <Finamenon> lol
#434 [16:01] <ICountFrom-1> ICountFrom0: yeah, chill bro
#435 [16:01] <oldtopman> You ran into a freak accident.
#436 [16:01] <oldtopman> No need to go about raging like a 7year old halo shooter. Stuff like this happens, it's sad. It happens to the best of programs.
#437 [16:02] <ICountFrom0> Not that "freak accident", let me guess, you are somewhere that power goes not go out often?
#438 [16:02] <lutzee> ICountFrom0 i told you, you need to replace session.lock with a new copy, you need to make a new world and copy that one to the old worlds folder
#439 [16:02] <ICountFrom0> so, seed a new world every time my power goes out?
#440 [16:02] <lutzee> no..
#441 [16:03] <lutzee> copy the session.lock from another world to your current world
#442 [16:03] <ICountFrom0> I've had one power outage, and one corrupted world, I see a 100% correlation.
#443 [16:03] <Finamenon> one iteration, total statistic significance there
#444 [16:03] <lutzee> as long as there is a readable session.lock file in a world folder the world can be read
#445 [16:03] <ICountFrom0> ah, now THAT is a simple answer, and easily done, I leave satasfied.
#446 [16:03] <ICountFrom0> Thank you lutzee
#447 [16:04] <TheNoodle> ooh, it's complain about mojang time! ^_^
#448 [16:04] <ICountFrom0> Oh, I don't blame mojang, I blame microsoft, those are the idiots who implimented lock files back with word 95
#449 [16:05] <lutzee> lock files are just a file..
#450 [16:05] <clarjon1> i'm preeeeetty sure lock files have been around a lot longer.
#451 [16:05] <oldtopman> ICountFrom0: Umm, I don't think you know what you're talking about ^-^
#452 [16:05] <Grim_Reaper> Complain about mojang time?
#453 [16:05] <ICountFrom0> this is the first time I've encounted one that deleting them wasn't the solution
#454 [16:05] <Grim_Reaper> I hate that time :<
#455 [16:05] <clarjon1> IBM pioneered file locking in 1963 for use in mainframe computers using OS/360, where it was termed "exclusive control".
#456 [16:05] <ICountFrom0> shiny
#457 [16:06] <oldtopman> Is there anything else we can help you with?
#458 [16:06] <ICountFrom0> well, I know where to generate a new one, and I know what to do with the old one, I think I'm square, old, grumpy, but square.
#459 [16:06] <ICountFrom0> so I'll get the **** out of your hair, peace.
#460 [16:06] <ICountFrom0> so I'll get the **** out of your hair, peace.
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#462 [16:07] <oldtopman> *this* close to a kick
#463 [16:07] <Eddie> !kick Eddie
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#466 [16:08] <Eddie> That was not great.
#467 [16:08] <oldtopman> What were you expecting?
#468 [16:08] <Eddie> Flowers
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#475 [16:29] <louise> hej
#476 [16:29] <lutzee> o/
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#482 [17:02] <alexandercraft> hi, can anybody tell me something about the error "running out of memory"?
#483 [17:03] <Juze> Increase your -Xmx
#484 [17:03] <Juze> java -Xmx1024M -jar craftbukkit.jar
#485 [17:03] <Juze> :3
#486 [17:03] <Juze> Are you hosting it with some company?
#487 [17:04] <Juze> Wait
#488 [17:04] <Juze> Are you talking about a server or client?
#489 [17:04] <alexandercraft> im not host, but we play in local network. yeah
#490 [17:04] <alexandercraft> client
#491 [17:04] <Juze> Are you using HD textures?
#492 [17:04] <alexandercraft> default one
#493 [17:05] <alexandercraft> minecraft in default settings, no extras or changes
#494 [17:07] <alexandercraft> no tips?
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#496 [17:09] <bblewitt> can anyone give me any helpful advice on why I am getting a 503 or a 500 error message (something about service unadvaible) when I try and load up the fourms?
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#499 [17:17] <lemon-rev> bblewitt could be they are doing matanence
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#509 [17:49] <White_Power_Nigger> Hi I have a question
#510 [17:49] <Dragon_EX> wuts ur question
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#512 [17:49] <Eddie> No one will answer you unless you change your name.
#513 [17:50] <lukegb> Ban him, please >_<
#514 [17:50] <White_Power_Nigger> Where can I obtain a full and free minecraft game without paying a single cent?
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#516 [17:50] <Kane_Hart> Scott
#517 [17:50] <White_Power_Nigger> Is it possible?
#518 [17:50] <Eddie> Kane_Hart: Scott is afk at the moment.
#519 [17:50] <Juze> White_Power_Nigger: Buy the game
#520 [17:50] * AuBot kicked Juze from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uze :Please keep it civil.)
#521 [17:50] <Kane_Hart> damn him lol
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#523 [17:50] <Juze> o_O
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#525 [17:50] <superkabii> lol!
#526 [17:50] <Kane_Hart> lmao
#527 [17:50] <Juze> Oh god
#528 [17:50] <Juze> Don't ever ping him
#529 [17:50] <Dragon_EX> i dont think u can do that unless u earn a prize or something or u have a friend that really wants u to have minecraft
#530 [17:51] <Eddie> !kick White_Power_Nigger
#531 [17:51] <Juze> No, that's wrong
#532 [17:51] <Kane_Hart> !ban
#533 [17:51] <Kane_Hart> !ban
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#536 [17:51] <White_Power_Nigger> It would be very great if there's a trial version etc.
#537 [17:51] <Eddie> !kick White_Power_Nigger
#538 [17:51] <Eddie> omg
#539 [17:51] <Kane_Hart> lmao
#540 [17:51] <Eddie> Why can't I anymore?
#541 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> lol, impervious
#542 [17:51] <Juze> Maybe just right click his name?
#543 [17:51] <White_Power_Nigger> As my son is very interested in playing it.
#544 [17:51] <Kane_Hart> Juze no hes not an actual irc op
#545 [17:51] <Dragon_EX> you can download minecraft and play offline
#546 [17:52] <Kane_Hart> the ! is via a bot
#547 [17:52] <Juze> Kane_Hart: ChanServ can be configured to allow voices to kick
#548 [17:52] <Juze> Also, IRCOp =/= Channel OP
#549 [17:52] <Juze> Also, IRCOp =/= Channel OP
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#551 [17:53] <TehBrawlGuy> Hey, I keep getting a crash about a minute after I start playing. MCerror returns this http://pastebin.com/TKLDP76j. I'm pretty sure I have the best drivers, and it was running more or less fine last night.
#552 [17:53] <superkabii> Esper services aren't in here, though
#553 [17:54] <Juze> TehBrawlGuy: Update Java
#554 [17:54] <White_Power_Nigger> On a scale of 10. How addictive is Minecraft? I am currently pursuing my Master's degree and I wonder how addictive Minecraft is.
#555 [17:54] <Juze> Only thing I can figure of
#556 [17:54] <Juze> Or if you're using mods, remove them
#557 [17:54] <TehBrawlGuy> I have the latest java.
#558 [17:54] <TehBrawlGuy> Only mod is toomanyitems, so that could be it?
#559 [17:54] <Juze> Java 7 is latest
#560 [17:54] <Juze> Try without, we don't support mods here
#561 [17:55] <Dragon_EX> @TehBrawlGuy write down all the server ips u have and get ur singleplayer worlds from .minecraft and then delete .minecraft and run minecraft
#562 [17:55] <TehBrawlGuy> Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 7 Update 4).
#563 [17:55] <TehBrawlGuy> The site says that =v
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#565 [17:55] <White_Power_Nigger> Does Minecraft have any sexual themes and gore in its gameplay?
#566 [17:56] <Dragon_EX> no
#567 [17:56] <Eddie> Are you enjoying life while I can't kick you?
#568 [17:56] <Juze> Eddie: Don't feed the trolls, already reported to #dragonweyr
#569 [17:56] <Boreeas> ;kick White_Power_Nigger
#570 [17:56] * WugBot kicked White_Power_Nigger from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hite_Power_Nigger :White_Power_Nigger)
#571 [17:56] <Eddie> lol ;
#572 [17:56] <Eddie> I did !kick earlier and it banned me
#573 [17:57] <Boreeas> ;)
#574 [17:57] <Eddie> what is this nonsense?
#575 [17:57] <Dragon_EX> and we all thought it was !
#576 [17:57] <Juze> He quit now
#577 [17:57] <Boreeas> !kick is for AuBot, ;kick for WugBot
#578 [17:57] <Juze> Was on three channels trolling
#579 [17:58] <Boreeas> AuBot uses a different whitelist than WugBot, so one might allow you to use it while the other doesn't
#580 [17:58] <Eddie> <Eddie> !kick Eddie
#581 [17:58] <Eddie> * AuBot sets ban on Eddie!*@*
#582 [17:58] <Dragon_EX> lol
#583 [17:58] <TehBrawlGuy> ah, I hade two versions of java installed
#584 [17:58] <Boreeas> Eddie: Try ;kick
#585 [17:58] <Eddie> ;kick Eddie
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#588 [17:59] <Dragon_EX> how does that happen @TehBrawlGuy
#589 [17:59] <TehBrawlGuy> *shrug*
#590 [17:59] <Boreeas> Now I'm just wondering...
#591 [17:59] <Boreeas> !kick Boreeas test
#592 [17:59] * AuBot kicked Boreeas from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oreeas :I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by Boreeas with reason: test))
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#594 [17:59] <Juze> Lol
#595 [17:59] <Boreeas> Yup, works fine
#596 [18:00] <TehBrawlGuy> Still crashing after I uninstalled the old java.
#597 [18:00] <TehBrawlGuy> Any idea?
#598 [18:00] <Dragon_EX> try wut i suggested earlier
#599 [18:00] <TehBrawlGuy> Ah, didn't see it.
#600 [18:00] <TehBrawlGuy> Will do.
#601 [18:00] <Dragon_EX> ok
#602 [18:01] <TehBrawlGuy> Crap, I'm at the library and the proxy's screwing me up.
#603 [18:01] <Dragon_EX> oh that could be a problem
#604 [18:02] <Dragon_EX> so u are using the computer at a library?
#605 [18:02] <TehBrawlGuy> My laptop on the library's wi-fi.
#606 [18:02] <Dragon_EX> oh
#607 [18:03] <Dragon_EX> ive always wanted to hang out at a library and play minecraft and chat with ppl
#608 [18:03] <Dragon_EX> with a cafe expresso
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#610 [18:03] <Anal_Gladiator> Where can I obtain a free and full version of DIABLO 1, 2 and 3 game legally? If it is not possible to obtain it legally, please inform me how can I get it through illegal means. Thank you.
#611 [18:03] <Juze> Oh you again :3
#612 [18:03] <NinjaKirby> LOL
#613 [18:03] <Anal_Gladiator> oops wrong channel
#614 [18:04] <Dragon_EX> illegal means?!?!?!?!?!?
#615 [18:04] <Dragon_EX> steal it if u wanna go illegal for god's sake
#616 [18:04] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#617 [18:05] <TheNoodle> !kick Anal_Gladiator
#618 [18:05] * AuBot kicked Anal_Gladiator from #minecrafthelp (Reason: nal_Gladiator :I love you too! <3 (Issued by TheNoodle with reason: None given.))
#619 [18:05] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#620 [18:05] <lukegb> Anal_Gladiator (175.156.131.197) was last in this channel as 'White_Power_Nigger' [7 minutes, 5 seconds ago]
#621 [18:05] <TheNoodle> mmhm
#622 [18:05] <Grim_Reaper> Oh in that case...
#623 [18:06] <TehBrawlGuy> Oh, there's an interesting bit.
#624 [18:06] <TehBrawlGuy> Creative is not crashing
#625 [18:06] <lukegb> (thanks AuBot)
#626 [18:06] <TehBrawlGuy> only survival
#627 [18:06] <TheNoodle> I've watched him in a few other channels as well
#628 [18:06] * lukegb eats TheNoodle
#628 [18:06] <Dragon_EX> ohai noodle
#629 [18:07] <TheNoodle> Hello Dragon_EX.
#630 [18:07] * Juze omnoms lukegb
#630 [18:07] <Juze> Wait no
#631 [18:07] <Dragon_EX> y u use my full nick name
#632 [18:07] <Juze> What was I even thinking
#633 [18:07] <lukegb> Dragon_EX: because <TAB>
#634 [18:07] <Dragon_EX> ppl just call me drag
#635 [18:07] <lukegb> drag<tab> is just as easy :P
#636 [18:07] <Juze> Oh wait, technically, Noodle is inside luke, so she's eatable :3
#637 [18:07] <TehBrawlGuy> So, any idea why creative wouldn't crash
#638 [18:07] <TehBrawlGuy> but survival would?
#639 [18:07] <TheNoodle> \o/
#640 [18:08] <TheNoodle> Dragon_EX, it's actually quicker for me to use your full nick than anything past 'dra'
#641 [18:08] <Grim_Reaper> !ping
#642 [18:08] <GreyBot> Grim_Reaper Your Ping time was 0.967 seconds.
#643 [18:08] <Dragon_EX> now that makes it more confusing @ TehBrawlGuy
#644 [18:08] <lukegb> pong.
#645 [18:08] <Grim_Reaper> ee
#646 [18:08] <lukegb> !ping
#647 [18:09] <Dragon_EX> @ TehBrawlGuy you might have to get a new laptop :P
#648 [18:09] <Grim_Reaper> TheNoodle I have to admit. That guys nick was kinda funny..
#649 [18:10] <Juze> So many bots
#650 [18:10] <Dragon_EX> whos nick white_power_nigger
#651 [18:10] * AuBot kicked Dragon_EX from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ragon_EX :Please keep it civil.)
#652 [18:10] <TheNoodle> lolled.
#653 [18:10] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#655 [18:10] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#656 [18:10] <Grim_Reaper> No the gladiator nick
#657 [18:10] <Dragon_EX> well i didnt know that would happen!
#658 [18:10] <TheNoodle> yeah :p
#659 [18:11] * Grim_Reaper is tempted to !kick TheNoodle with hugs
#659 [18:11] <TheNoodle> do iiiiit
#660 [18:11] <Dragon_EX> ill do nig*** next time i have to speak of that name
#661 [18:11] <Dragon_EX> noodle u were de voiced on lobby
#662 [18:12] <TheNoodle> Correct.
#663 [18:12] <Grim_Reaper> Gasp!
#664 [18:12] <TheNoodle> I haven't spoken in 30 minutes, so I was autodevoiced
#665 [18:12] <Dragon_EX> i was too
#666 [18:12] <Dragon_EX> but then i got it back
#667 [18:12] <Dragon_EX> brb
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#669 [18:13] <Dragon_EX> im obviously back
#670 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> lies
#671 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> lies
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#673 [18:15] <Dragon_EX> how do u quit with a reason
#674 [18:16] <Dragon_EX> has left #Channel [Gotta take a shower]
#675 [18:16] <Dragon_EX> like that
#676 [18:16] <TheNoodle> /quit reason to quit. But leaving a channel is /part #channel reason
#677 [18:17] <Dragon_EX> oh so like this:
#678 [18:17] <Dragon_EX> oh so like this:
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#681 [18:17] <Dragon_EX> did it work
#682 [18:18] <TheNoodle> You parted, but without a reason.
#683 [18:18] <Dragon_EX> i said mwahahahahahahahahaha
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#685 [18:18] <Dragon_EX> wtf is a ctcp version
#686 [18:19] <Boreeas> Try /quote part #minecrafthelp asdfg
#687 [18:19] <Boreeas> Dragon_EX: I was checking what client you are using
#688 [18:19] <Boreeas> Dragon_EX: I was checking what client you are using
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#691 [18:19] <Dragon_EX> howbout now
#692 [18:20] <Boreeas> [00:19:37] [PART] Dragon_EX has left #minecrafthelp (asdfmovie5)
#693 [18:20] <Dragon_EX> sweet
#694 [18:20] <Dragon_EX> im using espernet
#695 [18:20] <Boreeas> You are using webchat
#696 [18:20] <Dragon_EX> im also using espernet :P
#697 [18:20] <TehBrawlGuy> So, nobody figure out why it's only crashing in survival?
#698 [18:21] <TehBrawlGuy> D=
#699 [18:21] <Dyon> Maybe
#700 [18:21] <TheNoodle> Dragon_EX, Espernet is the network you're connected to.
#701 [18:21] <Dyon> Is your PC bad, TehBrawlGuy
#702 [18:21] <Dragon_EX> shut up noodle
#703 [18:21] <Boreeas> Dragon_EX: No, espernet is the network you are connected to, but the client you are using is webchat
#704 [18:21] <Dragon_EX> :P
#705 [18:21] <TehBrawlGuy> It's not great, no.
#706 [18:21] <TehBrawlGuy> But it was running fine last night and earlier today.
#707 [18:22] <Dyon> Are you using mods TehBrawlGuy?
#708 [18:22] <Dragon_EX> did u download anything?
#709 [18:22] <lukegb> !kick lukegb
#710 [18:22] <TehBrawlGuy> A couple crashes, but like 30+ minutes of stable gameplay.
#711 [18:22] <lukegb> aww
#712 [18:22] <TehBrawlGuy> TooManyItems, nothing else.
#713 [18:22] <TehBrawlGuy> and it ran fine after using TMI
#714 [18:22] <TehBrawlGuy> so...
#715 [18:22] <Dyon> Shouldn't make a problem...
#716 [18:22] <Dragon_EX> tmi broke my minecraft so u should delete it
#717 [18:22] <Dyon> Did you try running minecraft using more RAM?
#718 [18:23] <TehBrawlGuy> I'm using 2 GB as is, with plently of virtual memory.
#719 [18:23] <Dyon> Hmm it is
#720 [18:23] <Dyon> Try Force Updating minecraft and test again
#721 [18:23] <Dragon_EX> 32os or 64
#722 [18:23] <TehBrawlGuy> http://pastebin.com/TKLDP76j
#723 [18:23] <Finamenon> I know this probably isnt the place, but as the 3 other channels have dead-ended for me... anyone here who is experienced with dynmap? If so PM me im trying to change background colors if you know how
#724 [18:23] <TehBrawlGuy> is the error I get
#725 [18:24] <TehBrawlGuy> 32 bit win xp
#726 [18:24] <Dragon_EX> did u install tmi right?
#727 [18:25] <TehBrawlGuy> Pretty sure, I deleted meta-inf and dragged over TMI.
#728 [18:26] <TehBrawlGuy> and again, it ran fine for a while after doing that
#729 [18:26] <Dragon_EX> ok
#730 [18:26] <Dyon> Did you installed ModLoader?
#731 [18:26] <Dragon_EX> u might have live with 30 minute periods of minecraft
#732 [18:26] <TehBrawlGuy> Nope.
#733 [18:26] <TehBrawlGuy> I don't get 30 anymore.
#734 [18:26] <TehBrawlGuy> I got 30.
#735 [18:26] <Dragon_EX> oh
#736 [18:26] <TehBrawlGuy> I get about 30 seconds now.
#737 [18:26] <Dyon> Try installing modloader, I don't no
#738 [18:26] <Dragon_EX> omg
#739 [18:27] <Dragon_EX> brb
#740 [18:27] <Dyon> don't know*
#741 [18:27] <Dragon_EX> gonna tab out and find out ur problemn
#742 [18:28] <Dragon_EX> can u tell me the full error u get?
#743 [18:28] <TehBrawlGuy> http://pastebin.com/TKLDP76j
#744 [18:28] <TehBrawlGuy> when I run it through MC error
#745 [18:28] <TehBrawlGuy> otherwise it's just a crash
#746 [18:29] <TehBrawlGuy> also, in browser does not work at all
#747 [18:29] <Dragon_EX> i can understand why playing mc in the browser doesnt work but my advice now is: get a new computer
#748 [18:30] <Dragon_EX> doesnt have to be top-of-the-line though
#749 [18:31] <Boreeas> TehBrawlGuy: Did you remove all java installations and only reinstalled the most recent 1.6 version?
#750 [18:31] <TehBrawlGuy> 1.6?
#751 [18:31] <Dragon_EX> after 1.2.5
#752 [18:31] <TehBrawlGuy> I have Java 7 version 4, java says that's the most recent
#753 [18:31] <Boreeas> Or 6, they are equicalent
#754 [18:31] <Dragon_EX> minecraft version
#755 [18:31] <Dragon_EX> is it 1.2.5?
#756 [18:31] <TehBrawlGuy> yeah
#757 [18:32] <Dyon> Latets Minecraft version 1.2.5
#758 [18:32] <TehBrawlGuy> I have the latest, then.
#759 [18:32] <Boreeas> TehBrawlGuy: Actually, Minecraft is known to have problems with Java 1.7 - try using 1.6 (Java 6)
#760 [18:32] <TehBrawlGuy> Alrighty
#761 [18:32] <Dyon> I think he uses Java 1.6
#762 [18:32] <Dragon_EX> there are 1.6 pre-releases but i dont suggest getting it unlees u have a VERY good computer cuz its a prerelease
#763 [18:33] <TehBrawlGuy> I have version 7 update 4
#764 [18:33] <Boreeas> TehBrawlGuy: Also, you may want to try to update the LWJGL files in .minecraft/bin/native
#765 [18:33] <Dragon_EX> there might be lots and lots and lots of bugs
#766 [18:33] <Boreeas> Dragon_EX: That has nothing to do with how good your computer is
#767 [18:33] <Dragon_EX> yes it does only my thousand dollar desktop can hndle it XD
#768 [18:34] <Boreeas> Dragon_EX: A prerelease can be as much be more efficient as it can be worse
#769 [18:34] <Dragon_EX> i have a netbook and its really slow and i just dont download pre-releases on this
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#771 [18:36] <Dracoheart> can someone give me a link to where i can download the 1.6 pre-release?
#772 [18:37] <Dracoheart> anyone?
#773 [18:37] <Boreeas> There is no 1.6 prerelease
#774 [18:38] <Dracoheart> then is it 1.2.6?
#775 [18:38] <Dracoheart> oh wait i have it ballsed up
#776 [18:38] <Dracoheart> 1.3
#777 [18:38] <Dracoheart> im so stupid
#778 [18:39] <Dracoheart> 1.3 pre-release then?
#779 [18:39] <Boreeas> Not sure if that is released already. I also don't know where to find it.
#780 [18:39] <Dracoheart> i saw a yogscast video of it :P
#781 [18:40] <lemon-rev> pre release 12w23b i belive is out its not 1.3 yet
#782 [18:40] <Dracoheart> where can i downlaod it
#783 [18:41] <Boreeas> try assets.minecraft.net
#784 [18:41] <lemon-rev> or minecraft fourms
#785 [18:41] <Dracoheart> assets.minecraft.net looks like coding
#786 [18:42] <Dragon_EX> yeh it does
#787 [18:42] <Boreeas> It's an XML document, but you can extract the links
#788 [18:43] <Dracoheart> the one and only link there is looks like a download link
#789 [18:44] <Dracoheart> the amazonaws one
#790 [18:44] <Boreeas> The "key" field is what you want
#791 [18:44] <Dracoheart> um im confused
#792 [18:44] <Boreeas> Append it to the link, so assets.minecraft.net/<key>
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#794 [18:45] <Dracoheart> thar we go ty all
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#796 [18:46] <Dracoheart> wut do i open it with
#797 [18:46] <Boreeas> JAva
#798 [18:46] <Boreeas> Copy it in the .minecraft/bin folder
#799 [18:46] <Dracoheart> and it runs as minecraft 1.3?
#800 [18:47] <Boreeas> If that's what you downloaded
#801 [18:47] <lemon-rev> no it runs as 12w23b updates is
#802 [18:47] <lemon-rev> 1.3 isnt out
#803 [18:47] <Boreeas> Make sure to rename it to "minecraft.jar" if it has another name
#804 [18:48] <Dracoheart> well i got 11w47a so i downloaded the wrong thing
#805 [18:48] <Boreeas> Then simply start the launcher as usual and you should be good to go
#806 [18:48] <Boreeas> 11w47a is a 1.1 prerelease
#807 [18:49] <Dracoheart> i typed in assets.minecraft.net/12w23b webpage not found
#808 [18:49] <Dracoheart> 404 errors suck
#809 [18:50] <Dyon> http://assets.minecraft.net/12w23b/minecraft.jar
#810 [18:51] <Dracoheart> alright lemme open it with java...
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#812 [18:52] <Dyon> You have to replace it with your current minecraft.jar
#813 [18:52] <Dudemeister> Alright, I'm having a problem with my server
#814 [18:53] <lutzee> So whats the problem?
#815 [18:53] <Dudemeister> The chat format is like this ONLY for OPs - [g] [world] Name:
#816 [18:53] <Dudemeister> I want to remove the [g]
#817 [18:53] <lutzee> bukkit?
#818 [18:53] <Dudemeister> Yes
#819 [18:53] <lutzee> mmm go to #bukkit for that i believe
#820 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> #bukkit or #bukkithelp, or even #bukkitdev if developing stuff
#821 [18:53] <Dracoheart> ah i see i replace the minecraft thingy in .minecraft with this
#822 [18:55] <Dracoheart> stuck at 99% DX
#823 [18:56] <Dracoheart> well ty for helping guys!
#824 [18:57] <Dragon_EX> brb
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#826 [18:59] <RonAsor> hey
#827 [19:00] <RonAsor> Any idea how I can apply for fixing the hebrew language i the game?
#828 [19:00] <RonAsor> in the game *
#829 [19:01] <grimr3p3r> blow it out your ass
#830 [19:01] <grimr3p3r> blow it out your ass
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#832 [19:01] <Boreeas> grimr3p3r: Please change your nickname, you are treading close to the "impersonation -
#833 [19:01] <Boreeas> Oh, fine
#834 [19:02] <RonAsor> what was that all about O.o
#835 [19:02] <Boreeas> Someone who was bored apparently
#836 [19:04] <RonAsor> god, i must contact the administration for this, for bonus chests translation, it says bonus breasts. lol
#837 [19:05] <Boreeas> Oh wow. Nothing you can do about it, really, except pushing your own translation pack. No idea how you would go about that
#838 [19:06] <Boreeas> You could also try mailing help@mojang.com, but don't expect anything from that
#839 [19:06] <RonAsor> wow someone just pointed me here : http://crowdin.net/project/minecraft
#840 [19:09] <RonAsor> though i do need to post them a mail about the language itself, it wont implement the §X codes
#841 [19:14] <RonAsor> just sent one out.
#842 [19:16] <NinjaKirby> >try mailing help@mojang.com, but don't expect anything from that <-- Why is Customer Service always this nowadays, shame.
#843 [19:16] <RonAsor> haha i just mailed them out thanks.
#844 [19:17] <RonAsor> i think it would be easier to tweet them out.
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#846 [19:21] <Skyvast> :/
#847 [19:21] <Skyvast> If I were to make a minecraft program, what should it be about? PM me
#848 [19:22] <Boreeas> Skyvast: Automatic harvestings by AI.
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#850 [19:23] <RonAsor> Skyvast: how about enchantment formula simulator, since it has been changed
#851 [19:32] <Skyvast> Good idea
#852 [19:33] <Wug> Boreeas: OR
#853 [19:33] <Wug> RonAsor: what language is it
#854 [19:33] <RonAsor> Hebrew.
#855 [19:34] <Skyvast> I wanted something original
#856 [19:34] <Skyvast> Or new
#857 [19:34] <Skyvast> Maybe a server manager or somethin
#858 [19:34] <RonAsor> Skyvast: try to think about something with redstone tool, i'm trying to come up with idea for you now
#859 [19:35] <RonAsor> something with ticks and clocks
#860 [19:35] <RonAsor> or whole construction generator ;)
#861 [19:37] <Wug> RonAsor: what does that appear as in the language pack list
#862 [19:37] <Wug> where is it alphabetically
#863 [19:37] <RonAsor> Its regarding the new world creation, its the second letter
#864 [19:37] <RonAsor> i can write it down in hebrew for you: "בונוס חזה כבוי:"
#865 [19:38] <RonAsor> thats how it appears in game, though these ":" should be applied after the chest - "חזה"
#866 [19:39] <Wug> can you write the string as its supposed to be
#867 [19:39] <RonAsor> sec im thinking of appropriate translation
#868 [19:40] <RonAsor> "תיבות בונוס"
#869 [19:40] <RonAsor> maybe "תיבת בונוס" because its a single chest
#870 [19:41] <RonAsor> for the multiple form, apply "פעילות" for enabled, and "כבויות" for disabled
#871 [19:42] <RonAsor> the whole string should be like so : "תיבות בונוס : פעילות" "תיבות בונוס: כבויות"
#872 [19:44] <Wug> I'm trying to find the string in the language pack
#873 [19:44] <Wug> what is the english label
#874 [19:45] <RonAsor> bonus chest: OFF
#875 [19:45] <RonAsor> exactly like so.
#876 [19:46] <Wug> is this in vanilla
#877 [19:46] <Wug> I dont see any english label containing the word "bonus" at all
#878 [19:47] <RonAsor> it applies to 12w23a snapshot
#879 [19:47] <Wug> mmmm hang on
#880 [19:47] <Wug> yeah im using the current version
#881 [19:47] <RonAsor> create new world -> more world options -> bonus chest
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#883 [20:02] <RonAsor> just wanted to note that § keymark (which used in codes) wont apply for the hebrew language too, it shows the key itself rather than the code (bold/color, and such)
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#887 [20:39] <Wug> god that was obnoxious
#888 [20:39] <Wug> I have no idea how it happened but somehow my desktop had been set -w
#889 [20:40] <Wug> so I couldnt save files to it
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#891 [20:42] <Wug> ok
#892 [20:42] <Wug> RonAsor: doop
#893 [20:42] <Wug> this is wrong, right? ":בונוס חזה"
#894 [20:42] <Wug> and it should be instead: "תיבת בונוס"
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#896 [20:43] <RonAsor> yes.
#897 [20:43] <Wug> did I get anything backwards
#898 [20:43] <Chris[Dead_Clap]> hi im new to irc
#899 [20:43] <RonAsor> I think there should be ":" added too
#900 [20:43] <RonAsor> i dont know if its applied in the string itself
#901 [20:44] <RonAsor> "תיבת בונוס:"
#902 [20:44] <Wug> ok
#903 [20:44] <Wug> yeah
#904 [20:44] <Wug> google translate says one is box and one is chest
#905 [20:44] <RonAsor> like so, someone who applied the ":" made it come at the end of the string instead in the middle
#906 [20:44] <Wug> I can see where the confusion comes from
#907 [20:45] <RonAsor> yeah, im viewing "crowdin.net/project/minecraft" now, most of it seems to be machine translated from one really active user
#908 [20:45] <RonAsor> I'm fixing whatever I see right to these moments.
#909 [20:46] <Wug> I'm noticing that the order of the words seems to be switched between the original and your correction
#910 [20:46] <Wug> was this intentional
#911 [20:46] <RonAsor> yeah, bonus - בונוס chest - תיבה
#912 [20:46] <RonAsor> chest can be also refered as breast which is חזה
#913 [20:47] <RonAsor> like chestplate
#914 [20:47] <RonAsor> just to show the correction with the ":" its showing "bonus chest off : " right now instead of "bonus chest: off"
#915 [20:48] <RonAsor> so the correction i've added also fixes that.
#916 [20:48] <Wug> so before, it was "breast bonus"
#917 [20:48] <RonAsor> precisely.
#918 [20:48] <Wug> huh
#919 [20:48] <RonAsor> its right to left allignment
#920 [20:49] <Wug> yeah
#921 [20:49] <Wug> my text editor is bugging out over it
#922 [20:49] <RonAsor> most of the times when you apply ":" in hebrew, it ends up coming in the end, but it seems to be okay sometimes.
#923 [20:49] <RonAsor> now I see it uses the explicit way of typing, disgarding the "however you really see it"
#924 [20:50] <RonAsor> Also, I have listed a bug about not being abled to type in hebrew (encoder issues i assume?) it limits the use of creative mode because you cant really search for an item...
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#931 [21:28] <RonAsor> Unlike other people who just translate it, i see the namespace, and the function it's applied to, so im checking it out to see if it's correct or not. just found out the guy who's applied the breast bonus language and fixed that out, apparently there was a machine translation below it...
#932 [21:29] <RonAsor> Just found out brightness: depressed.
#933 [21:29] <RonAsor> Just found out brightness: depressed.
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#936 [21:31] <RonAsor> just asking out where this line appears : "Would you like to download and install it automagically?", it seems like its for texture packs on multiplayer, is it intended to be automagically?.
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#942 [22:17] <Scott> !check 84.203.67.166
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#949 [22:41] <UMayBleed> Hello, am i the only one that cannot connect to minecraft.net through the launcher?
#950 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> !login
#951 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Please check your system's date and time
#952 [22:42] <GreyVulpine> Specifically, your computer seems to think it is the year, 2004.
#953 [22:42] <UMayBleed> sorry ill fix that
#954 [22:42] <UMayBleed> My problem is i cant login on the launcher
#955 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Fix the date, and try the launcher again
#956 [22:43] <UMayBleed> i've searched it and it says the servers are up but yet its not letting me. is it getting overloaded?
#957 [22:43] <RonAsor> if your clock isnt synced, it my cause many problems at online games.
#958 [22:43] <UMayBleed> ok
#959 [22:43] <UMayBleed> omg it works
#960 [22:43] <RonAsor> I had such problem at worms world party.
#961 [22:43] <RonAsor> ;)
#962 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Indeed
#963 [22:43] <UMayBleed> WOW changing the date makes it work?
#964 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#965 [22:43] <RonAsor> it makes TON of issues.
#966 [22:43] <UMayBleed> wow i feel so stupid
#967 [22:44] <RonAsor> with anti-virus too.
#968 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> No problems.
#969 [22:44] <RonAsor> just keep the sync box at the windows clock thingy always checked.
#970 [22:44] <RonAsor> it shall prevent these issues.
#971 [22:44] <UMayBleed> i no about anti virus, but i've been sitting here for ever trying to get it to work with re-installations and updates, and its time -_-
#972 [22:45] <RonAsor> If you use antivirus, think of that, that its trying to get an update from a specific date, but it appears to the program itself that its in the future (zomfg, feels like division by zero!)
#973 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> There's quite a few reasons that a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" message pops up, the date and time is one of them
#974 [22:45] <UMayBleed> thx fo the support! :)
#975 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> It's one of the things I check first.
#976 [22:45] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#976 [22:46] <RonAsor> no problem, if there has been troubleshooting stuff for you lately, check again.
#977 [22:46] <RonAsor> nice way spotting it grey, how've you came to that conclusion that quickly?
#978 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> Same issue, time and again
#979 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> I have a list of issues I normally check.
#980 [22:47] <RonAsor> its one of the things i always note last.
#981 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> The login server that the client uses, goes through HTTPS, which uses SSL. SSL certification requires a valid date and time to authenticate.
#982 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> Without a valid date, login fails.
#983 [22:48] <Finamenon> grey you always seem to know everything, though can I assume your knowledge of bukkit plugins is limited?
#984 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> /ctcp person time, gives this information
#985 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I never really delved into bukkit all that much
#986 [22:48] <Finamenon> fair enough, thanks
#987 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Usually the people at #bukkit or #bukkithelp have better people
#988 [22:48] <Finamenon> I only asked here because the other channels have not been helfpul
#989 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#990 [22:50] <RonAsor> im just viewing the hebrew language translation, and one guy over the crowdin site is messing anything up, i mean like hebrew&english text in translation, what the hell?
#991 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> May want to alert jeb, the dev, through crowdin
#992 [22:51] <RonAsor> Wug just've fixed a major translation error earlier
#993 [22:52] <RonAsor> I'm giving a whole shape-up to the trans, as much as I can.
#994 [22:52] <RonAsor> as i said before, bonus chest appears as bonus breast.
#995 [22:52] <RonAsor> hopefully i'd see improvement on the next snap.
#996 [22:53] <Finamenon> bonus breast rofl
#997 [22:54] <RonAsor> it may sound funny but I wouldn't be that happy if I was a parent of 6 year old daughter or something.
#998 [22:54] <RonAsor> im checking the whole crowdin out to see if theres even more 'intense' translation.
#999 [22:55] <RonAsor> the things that gets me nuts that they translate it as plural, as in look around you refer to many people.
#1000 [22:56] <RonAsor> I dont see 5 people playing on the same computer the same time, are you?
#1001 [22:57] <RonAsor> i dont want to be rude, but i just encountered this translation now :" Language translations may not be 100% accurate " and you know what I've got in mind. haha
#1002 [22:59] <RonAsor> most of the translation causes are mis-understood because people dont refer it to their placements, as in "tile.button.name" and such.
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#1005 [23:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Who else heard of the Illegal minecraft?
#1006 [23:18] <RonAsor> grammar issues... oh lord.
#1007 [23:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#1008 [23:18] <CrusaderDeleters> I see what went wrong.
#1009 [23:19] <RonAsor> not you, the translation files.
#1010 [23:19] <RonAsor> ;)
#1011 [23:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Translation? :o
#1012 [23:20] <RonAsor> yeah, im working on the hebrew translation file.
#1013 [23:20] <RonAsor> TONS of typos and stuff.
#1014 [23:20] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: ILLEAGAL
#1015 [23:20] <RonAsor> the 2 guys who did the most job, either one is machine-translated.
#1016 [23:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Illeagle?
#1017 [23:21] <RonAsor> and the other one just do half jobs. haha.
#1018 [23:21] <Wug> illeagle.
#1019 [23:21] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#1020 [23:21] <Wug> RonAsor: are you a native reader/writer?
#1021 [23:21] <RonAsor> off topic, i <3 deagle.
#1022 [23:21] <Wug> or fluent if not native
#1023 [23:21] <RonAsor> very fluent, and most perfectionism about it.
#1024 [23:21] <Wug> cool
#1025 [23:22] <RonAsor> its kind of disease for me
#1026 [23:22] <Wug> if you finish and dont know what to do with it, leave a link to it and I'll do my best to make sure someone sees it
#1027 [23:22] <RonAsor> Ughm im editing it on crowdin, what do i do next?
#1028 [23:23] <Wug> I honestly have no idea :)
#1029 [23:23] <Wug> ive never been involved with the translation process
#1030 [23:23] <Wug> but I can yell at people until they do things
#1031 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug, I should make a translation machine! :D
#1032 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> A full working one! :D
#1033 [23:24] <Wug> for example
#1034 [23:24] <Wug> WUGBOT: GTFO
#1035 [23:24] <Wug> WUGBOT: GTFO
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#1037 [23:24] <RonAsor> XD
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#1039 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1040 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Does he autorejoin
#1041 [23:25] <RonAsor> Well, the logic of things, people translated 'type /help to get a list of commands' while theres no hebrew support. haha, that cracked me up
#1042 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1043 [23:25] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: no
#1044 [23:25] <Wug> responds to invites
#1045 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#1046 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> WUGBOT: GTFO
#1047 [23:25] <RonAsor> commands should be translated also in an advanced stage?
#1048 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Doesn't work for me.
#1049 [23:25] <RonAsor> as in, do you have a differ language that you try that commands work there?
#1050 [23:25] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: you arent yelling hard enough
#1051 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> WUGBOT: GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1052 [23:26] <Wug> or maybe theres just a gtfo command
#1053 [23:26] <Wug> and maybe you dont have the level to use it
#1054 [23:26] <Wug> >.>
#1055 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> That good?
#1056 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> :(
#1057 [23:26] <RonAsor> i like the /hop
#1058 [23:27] <RonAsor> some clients doesnt support it like mibbits ;/
#1059 [23:27] <Wug> mine uses /cycle
#1060 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> ChatZilla does.
#1061 [23:27] <Wug> ;cycle
#1062 [23:27] <Wug> ;cycle
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#1065 [23:27] <Wug> as is wugglybot's
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#1067 [23:29] <RonAsor_> mibbit's so random.
#1068 [23:29] <RonAsor_> So, anyone have any idea if commands should be implemented in other language? O.o'
#1069 [23:29] <Wug> I hate mibbit
#1070 [23:29] <Wug> but in the same breath I love using it to troll
#1071 [23:30] <Wug> RonAsor_: thats a good question
#1072 [23:30] <Wug> currently however
#1073 [23:30] <Wug> I'd check to see if any of the other languages use non-english commands
#1074 [23:30] <Wug> I'd also keep in mind that commands dont do anyone any good if you cant type them, so as long as that bug you mentioned exists, I'd leave them english
#1075 [23:31] <RonAsor_> Ok, that way I'd know if I should update the commands region.
#1076 [23:32] <Wug> I have a suspicion it would be better to leave them as is
#1077 [23:32] <RonAsor_> Yeah, I just dont want to make double work for the dev team, because if it will support other language, someone needs to remind them changing the language file again.
#1078 [23:32] <RonAsor_> Thanks for your concideration ;)
#1079 [23:32] <Wug> you could add them in a comment
#1080 [23:32] <Wug> I believe lines starting with a # are comments
#1081 [23:33] <RonAsor_> Your'e refering to the source files themselves?
#1082 [23:36] <Wug> well, the language pack files
#1083 [23:36] <Wug> the interface you're using might not be the same
#1084 [23:37] <RonAsor_> yeah i've encoded it to UTF-8
#1085 [23:37] <RonAsor_> i see it clear as sunshine
#1086 [23:37] <RonAsor_> like : "#X-Generator: crowdin.net"
#1087 [23:37] <RonAsor_> the thing that also cracked me up, it says "english" in hebrew, for the language selected.
#1088 [23:37] <Wug> thats a comment
#1089 [23:38] <Wug> you could leave the command.stop=<hebrew for stop>
#1090 [23:38] <Wug> or rather
#1091 [23:38] <Wug> command.stop=stop
#1092 [23:38] <Wug> and add #command.stop=<hebrew for stop>
#1093 [23:38] <RonAsor_> yeah im used to // for comments at c#
#1094 [23:39] <RonAsor_> I may update the lang pack and upload it fully.
#1095 [23:40] <RonAsor_> but it seems that the crowdin is a better way, as my translation might not always be exact, therefore leaving people the ability to vote
#1096 [23:41] <RonAsor_> Though i must say... its well-arranged at the lang pack better than crowdin, you get full class control as it's seperated nicely.
#1097 [23:43] <RonAsor_> the problem is there are non-implemented features, which hard to tell how they are refered
#1098 [23:43] <RonAsor_> like potions or 'change world' translation that i've seen now
#1099 [23:43] <RonAsor_> cant tell if its a 'world changer' or a 'change world'
#1100 [23:43] <Wug> whats the english tag for it
#1101 [23:44] <RonAsor_> menu.switchingLevel
#1102 [23:44] <Wug> do your best to interpret subjectively based on the category its in, as well as what you know about the context of the game where it appears (assuming its present in the game)
#1103 [23:44] <Wug> what is the english text for it
#1104 [23:44] <RonAsor_> i'd go to the english files and go exactly for the english file
#1105 [23:45] <Wug> ill do it, hang on
#1106 [23:45] <RonAsor_> english entry*
#1107 [23:45] <RonAsor_> i think ill just open it on linux with diff. haha makes stuff much simpler
#1108 [23:46] <Wug> I'd say you could get away with using the same text there as menu.loadinglevel
#1109 [23:48] <RonAsor_> Ah another thing, there was used to be a proccessing text when loading a world or creating one
#1110 [23:48] <RonAsor_> now nothing is written as the screen is blank.
#1111 [23:49] <RonAsor_> question is, intended?
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#1114 [23:53] <RonAsor_> well i can split screen with word, no probs.
#1115 [23:57] <RonAsor_> nope, explicitly says switching level ;"menu.switchingLevel=Switching level"
#1116 [23:57] <RonAsor_> seems like i was wrnog.
#1117 [23:57] <RonAsor_> wrong*
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