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#2 [00:03] <ImJustPro> May I have help
#3 [00:04] <RonAsor_> I'll try my best, what is it about?
#4 [00:06] <RonAsor_> :\
#5 [00:06] <RonAsor_> respawn is translated as 'reborn' because there is no actual word for spawn. haha.
#6 [00:08] <RonAsor_> I'll have it as 'get back to life' instead
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#14 [01:27] <Guest_> Hello, Anyone mind helping me? I'm having some black screen problems after logging into minecraft.
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#16 [01:36] <FueledByOJ> Hello, Can someone help me?
#17 [01:40] <FueledByOJ> Not much help here..
#18 [01:42] <FueledByOJ> Yup....
#19 [01:51] <FueledByOJ> This was pointless.
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#21 [01:55] <FueledByOJ> Anyone.. help.. me.
#22 [02:04] <RonAsor_> it may be UTC issues that people aren't answering you, different timezones you know ;)
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#26 [02:11] <Dragon_EX> is there a way to run a minecraft server on a 32os computer?
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#28 [02:11] <Grim_Reaper> Of course o.o
#29 [02:11] <Grim_Reaper> It should just.. run?
#30 [02:12] <Dragon_EX> well my computer is slow and wouldnt work so i thought it was my os
#31 [02:12] <Grim_Reaper> Naa
#32 [02:12] <Grim_Reaper> Server runs fine on 32 bit and 64
#33 [02:13] <Dragon_EX> ok lemme go download the server stuff again..
#34 [02:13] <FueledByOJ> Can someone help me with black screen problem?
#35 [02:14] <Grim_Reaper> FueledByOJ I assume the moment you login it black screens?
#36 [02:15] <Dragon_EX> FueledByOJ: http://segmentnext.com/2011/02/18/minecraft-errors-crashes-black-screen-connection-issues-modding-fps-fix-and-lag-fix/
#37 [02:15] <Dragon_EX> this should help
#38 [02:18] <Dragon_EX> well its workin now but i bet its gonna be REALLY laggy
#39 [02:22] <Dragon_EX> on my desktop, i can run a server but i cant go on it with another computer
#40 [02:22] <Dragon_EX> can u help me with that?
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#42 [02:29] <RonAsor_> what do you mean?
#43 [02:29] <RonAsor_> you cant get in because of what?
#44 [02:29] <RonAsor_> performance issues? or connectivity?
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#46 [02:32] <RonAsor_> Dragon_EX : that was at you.
#47 [02:32] <Dragon_EX> oh sry i was afk
#48 [02:32] <RonAsor_> Its okay, I'm semi gone too ;)
#49 [02:33] <RonAsor_> making translation pack lift-up.
#50 [02:33] <zeanyboi> Wondering if anyone here can help me out. Here is the wall of text: http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers/comments/ustrh/as_my_last_hope_i_turn_to_you_reddit/
#51 [02:33] <Dragon_EX> i can get on my server on the computer its running on but not on another computer
#52 [02:34] <RonAsor_> you mean the server? or running a client->To that server?
#53 [02:34] <auscompgeek> zeanyboi: unless if you absolutely know what you're doing, never set server-ip
#54 [02:34] <Dragon_EX> -.-
#55 [02:35] <auscompgeek> zeanyboi: you would only need to set it if you had several network adapters and want to bind to one of them
#56 [02:35] <RonAsor_> zeanyboi: the ip "192.168.0.16" is of internal router.
#57 [02:35] <Dragon_EX> Im running a server. im playing on it. my brother wants to get on. he types in the ip. it says: no connection
#58 [02:35] <zeanyboi> It was just something I was trying to do to see if it could get my wife to connect better
#59 [02:35] <auscompgeek> yeah, if it was set to 192.168.0.16, you wouldn't be able to connect to localhost
#60 [02:36] <zeanyboi> The same thing happens if it's set to blank
#61 [02:36] <RonAsor_> Dragon_EX: check that the running server ip matches your connecting ip.
#62 [02:36] <Dragon_EX> it is
#63 [02:36] <auscompgeek> zeanyboi: exactly which Java versions are being used on each computer?
#64 [02:36] <RonAsor_> Dragon_EX i would suggest hamachi as a workaround.
#65 [02:37] <auscompgeek> zeanyboi: also, which version of Java is being used to run the server itself
#66 [02:37] <RonAsor_> it must be jre6.
#67 [02:37] <RonAsor_> jre7 for some reason has some issues crashing the client, for me at least.
#68 [02:38] <zeanyboi> in my java preferences it says version: 1.6.0_31-b04-415
#69 [02:38] <auscompgeek> RonAsor_: I haven't had client issues with JRE7, however, I have had issues running the server with JRE7.
#70 [02:38] <SinZ> whats the keyboard shortcut for chromes task manager
#71 [02:38] <auscompgeek> zeanyboi: ok, what about your wife's Java?
#72 [02:38] <RonAsor_> auscompgeek: you might have jre6 still installed on your system which the game itself points to it.
#73 [02:38] <zeanyboi> the same
#74 [02:38] <RonAsor_> i'm having both of them too.
#75 [02:39] <zeanyboi> we both have lion, with the most recent updates installed
#76 [02:39] <zeanyboi> although she has a 13" and I a 17"
#77 [02:39] <zeanyboi> if that matters*
#78 [02:39] <auscompgeek> RonAsor_: I'm directly pointing Java to my Minecraft install.
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#80 [02:40] <RonAsor_> same, pointing out to jre7 causes some class errors for me.
#81 [02:40] <auscompgeek> RonAsor_: I have the server running on JRE 6u32 and the client running on JRE 7u4.
#82 [02:40] <zeanyboi> Oh, I should also note that the error she gets is genericReason. Or something like that.
#83 [02:41] <RonAsor_> zeanyboi: i would've try setting your WAN ip as the server's ip, and opening that port on the router.
#84 [02:42] <Dragon_EX> ok now the problem is that ppl outside of my network cant connect eben tho i ported forward
#85 [02:42] <RonAsor_> also, try altering the routing direction, let the server run on your wife's computer.
#86 [02:42] <RonAsor_> and see if it occures to you too.
#87 [02:43] <zeanyboi> Ok, I'll give that a try. Would that let her connect to the external IP?
#88 [02:43] <auscompgeek> RonAsor_: setting server-ip only supports the IPs the computer is directly assigned, doesn't it?
#89 [02:43] <RonAsor_> Dragon_EX : which server IP your'e running at?, must be your WAN because letting them connect to your lan will yield no-result.
#90 [02:44] <Dragon_EX> im also giving them the public ip i get on google if i search what is my ip
#91 [02:44] <RonAsor_> auscompgeek, if you want to let your accolades connect to you, you must set it to your WAN, it is associated that way, your router recieve the connecting ip request, and your computer gets it through the opened port (AKA Socket)
#92 [02:44] <auscompgeek> RonAsor_: ah.
#93 [02:44] <RonAsor_> thats how networking works, basicly.
#94 [02:45] <auscompgeek> RonAsor_: setting it to null would work though, correct?
#95 [02:45] <RonAsor_> I have tested it with couple of programs i've built. works perfectly.
#96 [02:45] <RonAsor_> not known, because the server is strictly said to accept connections from outcoming connections
#97 [02:46] <RonAsor_> imo, LAN and WAN arent NAT associated when using a program to accept one type of connection.
#98 [02:46] <RonAsor_> it must go through routing, since the IP your LAN uses, might be taken WAN-wise.
#99 [02:47] <RonAsor_> Dragon_EX thats the ip you need.
#100 [02:47] <RonAsor_> to set on your server properties.
#101 [02:47] <Dragon_EX> but my friends say that that ip isnt working
#102 [02:47] <RonAsor_> though for outcoming connections, I DO use hamachi.
#103 [02:48] <RonAsor_> it simulates lan, and fixes half dozen of these problems.
#104 [02:48] <Dragon_EX> i dont want to buy hamiachi though
#105 [02:48] <RonAsor_> you dont have to, its free for 5 connections
#106 [02:48] <Dragon_EX> but i want everyone to be able to come on it
#107 [02:48] <RonAsor_> and you can open another room for another 5, just those rooms wont be linked, (people inside cant chat with eachother) but server wise, it accepts all connections.
#108 [02:49] <RonAsor_> so you'll have to create peopleYouWant/5(peopleperroom) rooms.
#109 [02:49] <RonAsor_> if you want 25 of your friends to enter, youll need 5 rooms...
#110 [02:49] <Dragon_EX> so i can keep making connections and my friends will be able to come on?
#111 [02:49] <RonAsor_> yep
#112 [02:50] <Dragon_EX> ok ill just need my friends to get hamachi -.-
#113 [02:50] <RonAsor_> and you WILL make those rooms password protected, (dont make it trivial as 123) to reject griefers and stuff.
#114 [02:50] <Dragon_EX> ah
#115 [02:50] <Dragon_EX> brb
#116 [02:50] <RonAsor_> you can make copies of your /server/saves to have backups, incase stuff breaks up.
#117 [02:51] <RonAsor_> just make sure to set the server IP as the hamachi IP.
#118 [02:51] <Dragon_EX> ok
#119 [02:53] <RonAsor_> Your'e doing it now? I might still be online for the upcoming minutes to assist you.
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#121 [02:53] <Dragon_EX> well can u try getting on my server?
#122 [02:54] <RonAsor_> ugh, sure
#123 [02:54] <RonAsor_> just need the hamachi room name
#124 [02:54] <Dragon_EX> am i allowed to tell u in chat or do i have to pm u
#125 [02:55] <RonAsor_> do it at pm, there might be griefers hidden in the afk zone ^_^
#126 [02:55] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#132 [03:03] <Zeanyboi1> Thanks for the help everyone. I wont be able to test it until Monday, so I hope it works!
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#135 [03:10] <Dan> where can i edit the enchanted text file
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#138 [03:22] <Frozen233> Hi
#139 [03:22] <Frozen233> Any one there?
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#141 [03:32] <Seldion> I have a problem, my friend when trying to connect to my server he gets a Bad login error
#142 [03:33] <Dragon_EX> get hamachi
#143 [03:33] <Dragon_EX> it works
#144 [03:34] <Seldion> so do i still put up a minecraft server from the website?
#145 [03:34] <Seldion> or will he just need to do direct connect
#146 [03:35] <Dragon_EX> u still use the server just create a room on hamachi and have your friend connect to it
#147 [03:36] <Seldion> Ah thank you very much
#148 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Or you can do it the proper way, and not use hamachi, which creates a layer of unneeded and unnecessary complexity.
#149 [03:36] <Seldion> Seems that way
#150 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Also creates latency problems, as well as connectivity problems where everybody who wants to join, needs hamachi as well
#151 [03:37] <Seldion> Why can't it be simple like that other game whos name i will not mention
#152 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> But hey, if you want to recommend that, then feel free. I expect you to actually give out troubleshooting advice if you tell people to use hamachi.. as well as educate them on the security risks
#153 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> If you don't, then don't tell people to use hamachi
#154 [03:38] <Dragon_EX> he left
#155 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> I'm talking to you.
#156 [03:38] <Dragon_EX> oh
#157 [03:38] <Dragon_EX> :P
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#159 [03:40] <auscompgeek> Errr, a "Bad login error" is fixed by restarting Minecraft...
#160 [03:40] <auscompgeek> (usually)
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#163 [03:45] <Frozen233> Hello i need help
#164 [03:45] <Dragon_EX> watcha need
#165 [03:48] <Frozen233> Hello?
#166 [03:48] <Frozen233> Anyone here please
#167 [03:48] <Dragon_EX> i will help you
#168 [03:49] <Frozen233> Thanks
#169 [03:49] <Frozen233> You know how towny plugin work?
#170 [03:49] <Frozen233> Do you*
#171 [03:49] <auscompgeek> We can only help if you actually ask your question :)
#172 [03:49] <Frozen233> Ok
#173 [03:49] <Frozen233> Well my problem is
#174 [03:49] <Calinou> you should try #bukkit instead for bukkit-related questions
#175 [03:49] <Calinou> I barely know how towny works though
#176 [03:49] <Calinou> depends what's your problem of course :P
#177 [03:49] <Frozen233> So i join #bukkit ?
#178 [03:49] <Dragon_EX> yeah i know nothing about bukkit im all about vanilla :P
#179 [03:50] <auscompgeek> ask in #towny
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#181 [03:50] <auscompgeek> Frozen233: ^
#182 [03:51] <Frozen233> yes
#183 [03:51] <Calinou> plugin-specific channels... meh; you better ask in #bukkit, this means more replies
#184 [03:51] <Frozen233> i did ask on #bukkit
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#195 [05:35] <XxbbgunxX> hey how to i get ppl to come connect to my server, im having problems getting ppl to connect
#196 [05:36] <Necrodoom> open your ports?
#197 [05:36] <XxbbgunxX> no like the server is online and running but hardly any1 connects
#198 [05:37] <Necrodoom> you mean people try to connect but there error?
#199 [05:37] <Necrodoom> or just nobody trys to connect?
#200 [05:39] <XxbbgunxX> a few people connect, just i have 42 slots, and want more active ppl to join, im looking for tips, if posted the server on most popular sites / thread stickied on hackforums but that only gives me about 4 ppl on at a time
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#206 [06:24] <Calinou> lmao @ XxbbgunxX
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#213 [07:13] <dangus21> I want to get clean minecraft files so i deleted the ones i had with mods and now it doesnt download the files, it stop when downloading lwjgl.jar. Any ideas how to solve?
#214 [07:13] <dangus21> *wanted
#215 [07:13] <Necrodoom> you deleted whole bin?
#216 [07:13] <Necrodoom> if yes, you tried the jar launcher?
#217 [07:13] <dangus21> i deleted the .minecraft folder
#218 [07:14] <dangus21> has i always do
#219 [07:14] <Necrodoom> i dont know then
#220 [07:14] <dangus21> but this time it just wont download, its stops at 9%
#221 [07:14] <lutzee> mmmm odd
#222 [07:14] <dangus21> yesterday it was at 6%
#223 [07:14] <Necrodoom> download servers being derp again
#224 [07:14] <dangus21> it has been like this for 3 days now
#225 [07:14] <lutzee> http://goo.gl/2GMS4 theres lwjgl
#226 [07:15] <lutzee> not much use without a version file i believe though
#227 [07:15] <Necrodoom> better to use a mirror of .minecraft, i think
#228 [07:15] <dangus21> how so necrodoom?
#229 [07:16] <Necrodoom> mojang hates anyone sharing the files so solution would be only a custom client
#230 [07:16] <lutzee> it's odd though.... i successfully downloaded a .minecraft using multimc fine yesterday
#231 [07:16] <lutzee> which uses the normal download locations
#232 [07:17] <lutzee> only other thing i can think of is firewall blocking and/or isp blocking
#233 [07:18] <dangus21> i just want to play minecraft again, any ideias hot to get the client ?
#234 [07:19] <lutzee> er google multimc should be a minecraft forum thread for it at the top
#235 [07:19] <lutzee> try using that
#236 [07:19] <dangus21> MultiMC 3.1 [Windows / Linux / Mac] - Minecraft Forum - this?
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#238 [07:20] <lutzee> i guess that is it :)
#239 [07:20] <Necrodoom> if fails, spout client
#240 [07:20] <dangus21> downloading
#241 [07:20] <Necrodoom> that uses an other download link
#242 [07:20] <Necrodoom> and its a bit modded, but not that much
#243 [07:21] <dangus21> OH guys, this client now says
#244 [07:21] <dangus21> fatal error occured (4): connection reset
#245 [07:21] <Necrodoom> try spout now maybe?
#246 [07:22] <dangus21> now trying the multimc thingy
#247 [07:22] <lutzee> mmmm something is cutting the connection before you can download anything try spout
#248 [07:22] <dangus21> spout?
#249 [07:22] <lutzee> another launcher
#250 [07:22] <dangus21> where do i get it?
#251 [07:23] <lutzee> Google is your friend :)
#252 [07:23] <dangus21> indeed
#253 [07:23] <Necrodoom> http://www.spout.org/
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#255 [07:23] <dangus21> yes i'm there, but what do i do there :x
#256 [07:23] <dangus21> donwload?
#257 [07:24] <Necrodoom> ye
#258 [07:24] <lutzee> http://get.spout.org/
#259 [07:25] <dangus21> well, i cant not download
#260 [07:25] <dangus21> the new update
#261 [07:25] <dangus21> and the download stoped at 8%
#262 [07:25] <Necrodoom> with spout?
#263 [07:26] <dangus21> http://yfrog.com/5d79543526p
#264 [07:26] <dangus21> its like that
#265 [07:27] <Necrodoom> check your internet?
#266 [07:27] <Necrodoom> got no more ideas
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#268 [07:28] <dangus21> check my internet?
#269 [07:30] <lutzee> Yeah, your internet is the problem, you have an exception in your firewall for minecraft?
#270 [07:30] <dangus21> checking
#271 [07:32] <dangus21> i dont see any
#272 [07:33] <lutzee> might want to set it so minecraft is allowed to connect to the internet without being checked
#273 [07:34] <dangus21> how so?
#274 [07:34] <lutzee> I don't know A)your security software B) how you would go about it with said security software anyway,
#275 [07:36] <dangus21> it was an antivirus issue
#276 [07:36] <dangus21> disabled it, minecraft working now
#277 [07:36] <dangus21> thanks guys
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#287 [08:37] <mudpit> hi, how far can spawn monsters from a spawner?
#288 [08:37] <mudpit> how many blocks?
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#294 [09:32] <DylanCl> Hello,when i open up minecraft,let it launch,it stops after Done loading...
#295 [09:32] <DylanCl> It just closes itself
#296 [09:33] <DylanCl> What do i need to do to fix it>
#297 [09:33] <DylanCl> ?*
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#299 [09:37] <DylanCl> Somebody? :3
#300 [09:38] <NinjaKirby> Guess people are busy atm, when a Helper is spared of their current business, they will come to your aid :)
#301 [09:38] <NinjaKirby> Although with that kind of problem, I would usually say delete the Bin folder, and let it redownload the Minecraft.jar
#302 [09:38] <DylanCl> Ok
#303 [09:39] <NinjaKirby> If that doesn't work, Graphics Driver up-to-date, then Java reinstall, heh, a clean slate.
#304 [09:39] <NinjaKirby> Has it always done this error? Or just recently started happening?
#305 [09:41] <NinjaKirby> I guess deleting the Bin folder would affect Mods actually, so if you aren't running Vanilla, prepare to reinstall those O_o
#306 [09:41] <DylanCl> Never happend before
#307 [09:41] <DylanCl> I just download minecraft on this computer
#308 [09:41] <DylanCl> so i updated java
#309 [09:42] <tyteen4a03> DylanCl: what is the problem?
#310 [09:42] <DylanCl> still not working
#311 [09:42] <NinjaKirby> Java v7 Beta?
#312 [09:42] <tyteen4a03> ?java7
#313 [09:42] <tyteen4a03> ?? java7
#314 [09:42] <DylanCl> Java version 7 version 4
#315 [09:42] <tyteen4a03> ?? index
#316 [09:42] <DylanCl> How u mean
#317 [09:42] <tyteen4a03> ??< java/1.7
#318 [09:42] <DylanCl> what?
#319 [09:42] <NinjaKirby> It is reported to be a bit quirky sometimes with the v7 Beta, since it was built-upon v6
#320 [09:43] <NinjaKirby> Tyteen is trying to access Bot Commands I think, lol
#321 [09:43] <tyteen4a03> DylanCl: firstly uninstall Java 7 and install Java 6 instead
#322 [09:43] <tyteen4a03> You can find Java 6 here:
#323 [09:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> DylanCl java/6u31
#324 [09:43] <tyteen4a03> eh
#325 [09:43] <NinjaKirby> lol, you lost your powers, old man
#326 [09:44] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby: everybody can use the bot, in fact use that command again to see the actual error
#327 [09:44] <NinjaKirby> Although you'd think v6 to v7 would be a seamless transition, but I guess it's Beta for a reason.
#328 [09:45] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby: I was checking whether Minecraft is still compatible with java 7
#329 [09:45] <tyteen4a03> DylanCl: Download Java 6 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html
#330 [09:45] <NinjaKirby> Tyteen: Fair enough, although I nay suggested otherwise ye could utilise it :P
#331 [09:45] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby: the fact that Java 7 is beta?
#332 [09:45] <NinjaKirby> Tyteen: The fact you could use the Bot XD
#333 [09:45] * tyteen4a03 shrugs
#333 [09:46] <tyteen4a03> DylanCl: while Java is downloading, may I know the problem?
#334 [09:46] * NinjaKirby launches a Lightening Bolt at Tyteen
#334 [09:46] <NinjaKirby> Por Ort Grav!
#335 [09:46] <tyteen4a03> and poof he went
#336 [09:46] <NinjaKirby> Cake for who knows where those Spell words are from.
#337 [09:46] <tyteen4a03> can't bother to google right now
#338 [09:47] <NinjaKirby> Ah, that's no fun though :3 But resoureceful, I guess
#339 [09:48] <NinjaKirby> lol, resourceful to use Google. Back in the day, it would have been cycling down to the Local Library and probably ordering a Book to come in to find out the information you seek.
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#341 [09:49] <NinjaKirby> Strange, my Grandparents days as kids was without Technology. Every Generation before them, without technology. It's finally here now after centuries, I wonder how it will effect the human race over the next century.
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#343 [09:50] <tyteen4a03> NinjaKirby: I think non-geeks would just make the spell sail off
#344 [09:50] <tyteen4a03> hi Calinou
#345 [09:50] <Calinou> hi
#346 [09:50] <Calinou> yeah, and?
#347 [09:50] <NinjaKirby> Que
#348 [09:50] * tyteen4a03 goes back to finishing portal 2 again
#348 [09:51] <NinjaKirby> Enjoy Tyteen
#349 [09:51] <NinjaKirby> The only problem I had with that game was the way it progressed, but it's the same with a lot of games now; Too much hand holding.
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#351 [09:56] <ezekielelin> Ok, I have a problem with my serve
#352 [09:56] <ezekielelin> http://pastebin.com/Jw5kcEDj
#353 [09:57] <ezekielelin> I am running the snapshot, and this happens
#354 [09:57] <ezekielelin> also, I have some tripwires which won't de-activate
#355 [09:57] <NinjaKirby> Use underarm, not over arm when the ball comes low, that's the way to Serve.
#356 [09:57] <ezekielelin> any suggestions?
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#358 [09:58] <jacobscrackers> need help with my server
#359 [09:59] <ezekielelin> in what way jacobscrackers ?
#360 [09:59] <ezekielelin> in what way jacobscrackers ?
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#367 [10:21] <IrishHabbit> Hi my Question is, Do i need Rights to make a Minecraft Let's Play at Youtube??
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#369 [10:24] <Mattz0r> Hey guys, how does one get Minecraft to listen on IPv6?
#370 [10:30] <ezekielelin> irish, no you don't
#371 [10:31] <ezekielelin> mattz0r, I don't think mc is ipv6 enabled yet
#372 [10:31] <Mattz0r> it is, my friend's server can do it
#373 [10:31] <Mattz0r> :
#374 [10:31] <Mattz0r> :S
#375 [10:32] <IrishHabbit> thanks for the help BYE^^
#376 [10:32] <ezekielelin> hmmm I don't know
#377 [10:32] <ezekielelin> :/
#378 [10:34] <Mattz0r> yeah
#379 [10:34] <Mattz0r> i just get this
#380 [10:34] <Mattz0r> [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.SocketException: Protocol family unavailable
#381 [10:37] <ezekielelin> I just trolled someone
#382 [10:37] <ezekielelin> oh
#383 [10:37] <ezekielelin> :P
#384 [10:37] <ezekielelin> wrong channel
#385 [10:38] <Mattz0r> sweet
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#396 [11:08] <Minecraftium> Unban from #minecraft
#397 [11:09] <Morrolan> Contact one of their ops.
#398 [11:09] <Calinou> Minecraftium, welcome to my club
#399 [11:09] <Calinou> (well, not anymore)
#400 [11:09] <Minecraftium> Ty.
#401 [11:10] <Minecraftium> Is it so bad, to falsely proclaim your are God e.g Notch and Jeb?
#402 [11:10] <Morrolan> Impersonation is, at the very least, confusing.
#403 [11:10] <Morrolan> As I said, contact the op who banned you, ask them for an unban.
#404 [11:11] <Morrolan> Personally I wouldn't have banned you for something like this, but it's their channel. *shrug*
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#408 [11:25] <Nestley> Hello
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#410 [11:28] <Nestley> Can anyone help me with a java error?
#411 [11:29] <Morrolan> Put it on pastebin.com and throw a link to the paste in here.
#412 [11:31] <Nestley> Well, it just says to install a java plugin and it takes me to the latest version of java when I click it and I installed it and I go back and it still tells me to install it.
#413 [11:32] <Morrolan> You will, at the very least, have to restart your browser after the installation is over.
#414 [11:32] <Morrolan> Possibly your computer too.
#415 [11:34] <Nestley> Okay be right back
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#419 [12:05] * clixsense join http://www.clixsense.com/?4005905 and click and task and win very much
#419 [12:05] * clixsense join http://www.clixsense.com/?4005905 and click and task and win very much
#419 [12:05] * clixsense join http://www.clixsense.com/?4005905 and click and task and win very much
#419 [12:06] * Morrolan kicked clixsense from #minecrafthelp (Reason: lixsense :No thanks.)
#420 [12:06] * Calinou hands a banhammer to mollstam
#420 [12:06] <Boreeas> ;kick clixsense
#421 [12:06] <Calinou> oops, highlight fail
#422 [12:06] <Boreeas> Ninjad
#423 [12:06] <Calinou> mollstam keep it, use it on login servers :)
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#425 [12:10] <WugBot> clixsense is not in the channel.
#426 [12:11] <Morrolan> Someone oughta dedust WugBot
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#428 [12:13] <Guest_> Hey i just brought mc and it doesn't let me log in once i have downloaded it saying it can't connect
#429 [12:18] <iMr_fosters> can anyone help?
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#433 [12:37] <mib_rlygy2> i need help!
#434 [12:37] <mib_rlygy2> i neeeeeeeeeedddddddddddddd heeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllp!
#435 [12:38] <mib_rlygy2> i need help
#436 [12:38] <mib_rlygy2> just please help me!
#437 [12:39] <mib_rlygy2> my minecraft is running to fast the days and nights go by super quick!
#438 [12:39] <mib_rlygy2> fk you guys
#439 [12:39] <mib_rlygy2> you people are worthless
#440 [12:39] <Calinou> lmao
#441 [12:39] <Calinou> mib_rlygy2, this is not a correct attitude to get help
#442 [12:39] <Calinou> explain your problem? singleplayer or multiplayer?
#443 [12:40] <mib_rlygy2> its single player
#444 [12:40] <mib_rlygy2> its running to fast
#445 [12:40] <mib_rlygy2> everything moves so quick and time passes too fast
#446 [12:40] <Necrodoom> reinstall minecraft
#447 [12:40] <Calinou> mib_rlygy2, try setting your system time backwards by a few minutes
#448 [12:40] <Calinou> Necrodoom, system clock issue, not minecraft issue
#449 [12:40] <Calinou> (windows I presume?)
#450 [12:40] <mib_rlygy2> yes
#451 [12:40] <Calinou> ok, set it backwards by a few minutes. then restart minecraft
#452 [12:41] <mib_rlygy2> set what backwards?
#453 [12:41] <Calinou> your system time.
#454 [12:41] <Calinou> "the clock"
#455 [12:41] <mib_rlygy2> ok
#456 [12:41] <mib_rlygy2> done
#457 [12:41] <mib_rlygy2> now what?
#458 [12:42] <Omega_Guardian> used to be an exploit where changing system time allowed you to do things like 10x faster then normal. Moving, mining, etc
#459 [12:42] <mib_rlygy2> yeah i dont like tha
#460 [12:42] <mib_rlygy2> that**
#461 [12:42] <mib_rlygy2> now what?
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#463 [12:44] <Calinou> mib_rlygy2, restart the game
#464 [12:44] <Calinou> does it work fine now?
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#466 [12:45] <mib_rlygy2> not a chance
#467 [12:45] <mib_rlygy2> still super fast
#468 [12:45] <Kevinpar> Hey, can someone help me with a little something? For somereason when I allocate more memory for my server, it still shows 100mb = 52%??
#469 [12:45] <Kevinpar> @Echo off "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx8G -Xms4G -jar minecraft_server.jar pause
#470 [12:46] <Calinou> don't allocate that high amount of RAM
#471 [12:46] <Calinou> also, is your java 64 bit?
#472 [12:46] <Calinou> also, avoid using java 7 with minecraft.
#473 [12:46] <Kevinpar> tried java 6 already and it didn't help
#474 [12:46] <Kevinpar> Java 7 seems to run better for me
#475 [12:47] <Calinou> @ECHO OFF (new line) "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx2G -Xms2G -jar minecraft_server.jar (new line) PAUSE
#476 [12:47] <Calinou> too much RAM used = more work for garbage collector = slower
#477 [12:47] <Kevinpar> Yes, im running on a 64 bit system 18gb of ram'
#478 [12:47] <Calinou> same xmx and xms = higher performance because no reallocation
#479 [12:47] <Calinou> keep in mind: you need about 100MB of ram per client, 300MB base ram (this is java :P)
#480 [12:47] <mib_rlygy2> mine is still too fast..
#481 [12:48] <Kevinpar> the funny thing is, it used to work like this.
#482 [12:48] <Calinou> mib_rlygy2, is your computer old?
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#484 [12:48] <Kevinpar> nope, hd 6970 crossfire 18gb of ram and I7 @ 4.2ghz
#485 [12:50] <Kevinpar> thanks for your help mate, got it to work with 8G on both. http://gyazo.com/68b0671772a9642a8b9f6e9698da7ef0
#486 [12:50] <Calinou> Kevinpar, wasn't talking to you
#487 [12:50] <Calinou> np
#488 [12:51] <mib_rlygy2> yes my computer is old
#489 [12:51] <Calinou> that might be the issue; your system clock is acting up maybe, I have no idea what to do to solve this :|
#490 [12:51] <mib_rlygy2> dang it
#491 [12:51] <Calinou> mib_rlygy2, try rebooting your computer?
#492 [12:52] <mib_rlygy2> hmm ok
#493 [12:52] <Calinou> heh, maybe it'll suddenly work, we never know
#494 [12:56] <Kevinpar> I've got one more issue, now allocating memory for the actual game itself.
#495 [12:56] <Kevinpar> java -Xmx4096m -Xms4096m -jar "C:\Users\Kevin\Desktop\Mängud\Minecraft.exe"
#496 [12:56] <RonAsor_> Clinou: he might had some windows boosters running in the background.
#497 [12:56] <RonAsor_> or that his cpu was overclocked.
#498 [12:57] <RonAsor_> Kevinpar: why that much ram? I get along just nicely with 1.2gb
#499 [12:58] <Kevinpar> Well when you use shader mods etc, it uses a bit more.
#500 [12:58] <RonAsor_> Oh now I get it..
#501 [12:58] <Kevinpar> and I don't like to use the launcher.
#502 [12:58] <RonAsor_> Even though I'm running vanilla, I did not set it to the highest prefs.
#503 [12:59] <RonAsor_> Same, it gets me connection timedout many times.
#504 [12:59] <RonAsor_> I'm just playing sp.
#505 [13:00] <RonAsor_> I still think 4gb might be too much.
#506 [13:00] <Kevinpar> It won't hurt so why not? :D
#507 [13:00] <RonAsor_> It kinda does.
#508 [13:00] <RonAsor_> think of a large library that you need to find a book in it.
#509 [13:01] <RonAsor_> now think of a smaller one,
#510 [13:01] <RonAsor_> you might have less books, but it takes you less time finding what you need in case its stored there.
#511 [13:01] <Kevinpar> well, I'll try out the amount of memory that suites me best.
#512 [13:02] <Kevinpar> But now back to the command line, does anybody know what's wrong there=
#513 [13:02] <RonAsor_> you should check out on the debug menu, after 1-2 hours of gameplay, whats the used memory amount
#514 [13:02] <RonAsor_> you should add upto 300mb on top of that, nothing more.
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#517 [13:03] <RonAsor_> over-allocating resources may cause lag for that matter.
#518 [13:03] <Kevinpar> as before, tried java 6, javaw & smaller amount of memory
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#520 [13:04] <RonAsor_> As I said, you have to benchmark the game in order to realise whats the maximum amount that should be used, it cant be for a split second and jumping for conclusions.
#521 [13:04] <Kevinpar> I also tried 1 to 1/2 ratio'
#522 [13:04] <RonAsor_> If you have large amount of ram (and you do) i'd suggest lowering the pagefile amount.
#523 [13:05] <RonAsor_> Pagefile is a file on your computer, that when theres massive use of ram, it gets written to a file.
#524 [13:05] <Kevinpar> well I know people who use even a higher amount of ram, they seem to be running the game quite well.
#525 [13:05] <RonAsor_> writing to files is milesconds slow rather than ram (nano-seconds)
#526 [13:06] <RonAsor_> have updated your graphics card lately?
#527 [13:06] <Kevinpar> me?
#528 [13:06] <RonAsor_> yep.
#529 [13:06] <Kevinpar> Not that recently but, what I'm using is: HD6970 crossfire
#530 [13:07] <RonAsor_> ill link you up with a driver
#531 [13:07] <Kevinpar> Oh updated.
#532 [13:07] <Kevinpar> My bad.
#533 [13:07] <Kevinpar> Yeah, i've got the latest drivers
#534 [13:07] <RonAsor_> Oh, hehe.
#535 [13:08] <Omega_Guardian> usually the tech advice seems to be to let windows managae the page file itself
#536 [13:08] <RonAsor_> Hopefully ur'e running 64 bit system and not 32.
#537 [13:08] <Kevinpar> What I taught was upgraded... silly me
#538 [13:08] <Kevinpar> SPECS: windows 7 64, 18gb of ram, 6970CF, I7 @ 4.2ghz
#539 [13:09] <RonAsor_> Omega_Guardian: true, but for irregluar kinds of computers - 12gb and above, it might be a benifit to tinker with it a bit.
#540 [13:09] <Omega_Guardian> 18 gigs? lol wowza
#541 [13:09] <RonAsor_> that one could be a server for over 100 people.
#542 [13:09] <RonAsor_> without reaching 30% of its usage.
#543 [13:09] <Kevinpar> :'D
#544 [13:10] <Omega_Guardian> huge kinda bizarre thing is why Windows still pages something to disk even when computer has more RAM then it'd ever likely use
#545 [13:10] <Kevinpar> I actually have had more than 100 people on my server at once.
#546 [13:10] <Kevinpar> but then I had stability issues
#547 [13:10] <RonAsor_> ATI doesnt update their drivers that commonly as far as i see, last update was on april 25.
#548 [13:11] <Kevinpar> ATI sucks :D IMO
#549 [13:11] <Kevinpar> worst drivers and support out there.
#550 [13:11] <RonAsor_> ATI+AMD processor might be better than nvidia+intel.
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#552 [13:12] <RonAsor_> I've heared tons of people complaining about compability issues among some games.
#553 [13:12] <Kevinpar> BF3 was unplayable for the first month...
#554 [13:12] <Kevinpar> Drivers were OH SO BAD:
#555 [13:12] <RonAsor_> :\
#556 [13:12] <Kevinpar> Especially when you have 2 of them in your computer.
#557 [13:12] <RonAsor_> go linux and compile your own display driver ;D
#558 [13:12] <Kevinpar> :'D
#559 [13:13] <Omega_Guardian> can't tell if it's intentional or not, AAA games not bothering to be bug tested to be useable on hardware thats 30%+ of the market
#560 [13:13] <RonAsor_> Theres a section on intel that mainly tests gaming.
#561 [13:14] <RonAsor_> i mean, your job is to come and play.
#562 [13:14] <Kevinpar> :D
#563 [13:14] <RonAsor_> to be a benchmark tester, which is taking the hardware to it limits.
#564 [13:16] <RonAsor_> Well, the game design itself might be troublesome, it works 90% around the RAM space.
#565 [13:16] <RonAsor_> and 10% is around the hard drive space.
#566 [13:16] <RonAsor_> thats why it sizes about 60mb when clean without worlds.
#567 [13:16] <Kevinpar> One title: BLACK OPS
#568 [13:17] <RonAsor_> Haha, I prefer BO over mw3.
#569 [13:17] <Kevinpar> The main menu has a memory leak.
#570 [13:17] <RonAsor_> Though i play it on the ps3 ;)
#571 [13:17] <RonAsor_> and mw3 cracked online.
#572 [13:17] <Kevinpar> even with a pc that runs BF3 maxed, gets laggy 10-60fps in the menu
#573 [13:18] <Kevinpar> SUpport the devs, for adding yearly DLC :D
#574 [13:20] <Omega_Guardian> sometimes dlc price...ok wait, more like 3/4 of the time, DLC is obscenely overpriced from what I've seen.
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#576 [13:20] <Kevinpar> The blackops DLC's were worth it
#577 [13:20] <RonAsor_> though im not gonna get BO2..
#578 [13:20] <RonAsor_> I dont like what they did back on the battlefield 2142.
#579 [13:21] <Kevinpar> I will probably get it. :)
#580 [13:21] <RonAsor_> they will do the same with that one.
#581 [13:21] <Omega_Guardian> Dungeon Defenders goes and has 3-4 dollar dlc for a new character class, and an entire expansion thats more then the game itself cost :P One train simulator game has train model dlc going for 30+ bucks
#582 [13:21] <Kevinpar> PS got it working "the ram allocation"
#583 [13:22] <Kevinpar> The .bat file can't contain the letter ä
#584 [13:22] <Kevinpar> which the folder name had in it.
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#591 [13:45] <Kevinpar> hey, are there any volunteers? I want to stress test my server.
#592 [13:48] <Ash_sotf> hey, i need some help with a plugin known as stargate. I am using permissions EX and because of it being permissions EX the permission nodes for stargate load in a screwed up manor. ive tried everything to allow access to all gates for my group called "Surviver" except to gates with the network name "hello". i just cannot seem to do it. heres my perms http://pastie.org/4057384 can anyone pre set the nodes for me ?
#593 [13:48] <Morrolan> Ask in Stargate's forum, Ash_sotf.
#594 [13:48] <Ash_sotf> is there a stargate irc?
#595 [13:48] <Morrolan> I don't think there is.
#596 [13:48] <Morrolan> But there is http://forum.thedgtl.net/
#597 [13:49] <Morrolan> (He got banned from the Bukkit forums a bunch of months ago, don't ask me why)
#598 [13:50] <Ash_sotf> oh alright, thanks anyway
#599 [13:55] <Ash_sotf> hmm it appears its just permissions EX. lots of people have problems with it with other plugins too. Can you advise a good permissions hander?
#600 [13:55] <Ash_sotf> handler*
#601 [13:55] <Morrolan> Personally I use bPermissions, and it has worked just fine so far. :)
#602 [13:56] <Morrolan> There is also Essential's GroupManager, which (atleast used to be) fairly popular.
#603 [13:56] <Morrolan> Lastly you could ask the people in #bukkit , maybe there are new permissions manager by now.
#604 [13:58] <Ash_sotf> ill have ago with b permissions then :)
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#609 [14:06] <Ash_sotf> so what is voice in the irc chat?
#610 [14:06] <Morrolan> Ash_sotf - bPermissions also has an IRC channel, #bananacode , if you need assistance.
#611 [14:07] <Morrolan> Voice, well, this depends on the channel.
#612 [14:07] <Morrolan> Theoretically voice allows someone to speak if the channel is set to "moderated".
#613 [14:07] <Morrolan> Meaning if it's too spammy you can set a channel moderated, and only voiced people and ops can speak.
#614 [14:07] <Ash_sotf> how do yo become, voiced?
#615 [14:07] <Morrolan> However, channels use it for various tasks.
#616 [14:07] <Morrolan> In here it just shows that you are a regular, helpful user.
#617 [14:09] <Ash_sotf> How does someone become voiced?
#618 [14:09] <Morrolan> A channel op can voice someone if he wants.
#619 [14:10] <Ash_sotf> and how do you become a channel op?
#620 [14:10] <Morrolan> The same way.
#621 [14:10] <Morrolan> By having an existing channel op make you one.
#622 [14:10] <Eddie> How do I become human?
#623 [14:11] <Morrolan> Hug me. :D
#624 [14:11] * Eddie hugs Morrolan :3
#624 [14:11] <Morrolan> Okay, I totally lied, this doesn't make you human. But I saw it fitting.
#625 [14:11] * Morrolan hugs Eddie
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#627 [14:12] <At_Animosity> Minecraft crashes. I get a black screen and then the game crashes.
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#630 [14:17] <Kevinpar> Hey, any volunteers here to stress test a server?
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#635 [14:21] <gwbeson> Would anyone be able to help me set up a tekkit server?
#636 [14:22] <gwbeson> I realize this is a mod, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
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#638 [14:26] <Calinou> gwbeson, I believe you can find tekkit server jar on tekkit's website? :P
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#641 [15:05] <SlashLife> Morning. :)
#642 [15:05] <SlashLife> Do I remember correctly that the Y coordinate has no influence on nether gate selection?
#643 [15:08] <Ash_sotf> are there any better clients than xCHAT?
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#645 [15:15] <RonAsor_> Wug: Im going at the translation file one by one now, and I'm going to upload it later on, I have made some consecutive line fixes such as lines that break down like the description of new world creation (costist 2 lines that follow eachother grammerally.)
#646 [15:20] <Calinou> <Ash_sotf> are there any better clients than xCHAT?
#647 [15:20] <Calinou> no
#648 [15:20] <Calinou> xchat ftw :)
#649 [15:20] <Calinou> VoxelHead i am disappoint
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#652 [15:34] <sugoi> Aster: i use irssi
#653 [15:34] <sugoi> it's a lot of work to get the way you want it :)
#654 [15:34] <sugoi> i definitely would not recommend it :)
#655 [15:34] <sugoi> but, i don't use a window manager from this machine - it's remotely accessed only, so irssi (command line only) works great for me
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#657 [15:35] <kevinpar> #minecraft
#658 [15:35] <kevinpar> #minecraft
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#660 [15:37] <Aster> sugoi, y u ping me?
#661 [15:37] <Aster> >.>
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#664 [15:58] <Ravenesti> Hi everyone, does anyone else have issues with mobs glicthing through xp farm walls? I see tutorials all the time where they stay put. In my multiplayer world. They glitch through and push me around so I cant work the grinder.
#665 [16:01] <NinjaKirby> That's not a Server-Client communication thing is it? Or at least, the client attempting to render the insanity of dynamic objects hosted by a Server
#666 [16:02] <Ravenesti> Might be.... I keep looking for either server side fixes or the other way around and no dice.
#667 [16:02] <sugoi> Aster: dang it, stupid auto completing the wrong names
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#669 [16:02] <sugoi> Aster: ash_sotf had logged off, so "as[tab]" _worked_ when it should have prompted me of two names
#670 [16:02] <Calinou> "I see tutorials all the time where they stay put. In my multiplayer world. " < because they're playing in singleplayer
#671 [16:03] <NinjaKirby> Ravenesti: I'm not saying it isn't fixable, but it's the type of typical Gaming Glitch I wouldn't expect to see a solution to :/
#672 [16:03] <Calinou> Ravenesti, try playing the snapshot or using thicker walls
#673 [16:03] <Calinou> also, how does your farm look? can I see? :P
#674 [16:03] <Calinou> mobs can glitch through fences yes. fixed in snapshots IIRC
#675 [16:03] <Calinou> use wooden slabs as "fences", actually more resource-efficient
#676 [16:04] <Calinou> (1 plank used per block "protected", 1.5 plank for fences)
#677 [16:04] <sugoi> Calinou: how many layers tall?
#678 [16:04] <sugoi> 1.5 planks - spiders won't climb ?
#679 [16:05] <Dragon_EX> put wooden slabs on top of wooden planks
#680 [16:08] <Calinou> nonono
#681 [16:09] <Calinou> you put "floor" slabs, and ANOTHER floor slab on top of the slab
#682 [16:09] <Calinou> not a double slab
#683 [16:09] <Calinou> = 1.5 block tall (you can do this using dirt as scaffolding)
#684 [16:09] <Ravenesti> Yea
#685 [16:09] <Ravenesti> I have seen that in sparkles home defense system
#686 [16:09] <Calinou> only cave spiders can go through 0.5 block spaces
#687 [16:13] <Ravenesti> I mean its a minor annoyance.... at this piont but once I get about 20 spiders at the choke point its hard to stand there and hit them with all glitched pushing. They can't hit me... they just push. I has to be a client server sync issue.
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#689 [16:15] <NinjaKirby> What you need is a row of Dispensers filled with arrows, a clock generator and a Lever, to do the work for you from a distance.
#690 [16:16] <Ravenesti> who wanted to see the set up at this point?
#691 [16:16] <RonAsor_> you can build a simple clock with a torch on side of a block, and a repeater, which set to full delay (4 ticks) and the output is backed up to the block of the torch
#692 [16:16] <Calinou> "They can't hit me... they just push." < blame mojang for their incapacity to code multiplayer properly 8)
#693 [16:16] <SlashLife> !choon
#694 [16:16] <SlashLife> Err ... nvm
#695 [16:16] <Calinou> Ravenesti, me
#696 [16:17] <Calinou> PM me the IP of the server? /msg Calinou <text here>
#697 [16:17] <NinjaKirby> RonAsor: I'm gonna test that roight nao
#698 [16:18] <RonAsor_> You can put a switch that will connect to the output of the repeater (with redsstone wire)
#699 [16:18] <NinjaKirby> You ain't even joking, lol
#700 [16:18] <RonAsor_> so you can trigger the clock manually.
#701 [16:18] <RonAsor_> You can add extra repeaters to make a longer delay between shots.
#702 [16:19] <RonAsor_> I've studied electronics so I know mainly how stuff works here.
#703 [16:19] <NinjaKirby> Wow, I just built one via the Wiki diagrams the other day, its like twice the size of this and performs the same thing.
#704 [16:19] <RonAsor_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NhtnuLojdg&feature=plcp
#705 [16:19] <NinjaKirby> I guess there is less alternating outputs
#706 [16:19] <RonAsor_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_iBVwIM_LA&feature=plcp
#707 [16:19] <RonAsor_> just example of those.
#708 [16:19] <Calinou> clock = very easy... just repeaters, one red torch, and some red dust.
#709 [16:20] <Calinou> "pulse" clock is quite easy too
#710 [16:21] <RonAsor_> I like controlling that with AND gate
#711 [16:21] <NinjaKirby> I'm beginning to think my Puzzles have the most convoluted, large scale bad designs.
#712 [16:21] <Calinou> noob's way: sticky piston 8D
#713 [16:21] <RonAsor_> so if the lever is still open, it will keep pulsing, if not, it will stop.
#714 [16:21] <RonAsor_> sticky piston is one of the best ways shortning your pulse length down.
#715 [16:24] <Calinou> however: slimeball
#716 [16:25] <RonAsor_> what about it?
#717 [16:26] <NinjaKirby> Excellent argument Calinou; Slimeball, RonAsor, you may have forgotten about it
#718 [16:26] <NinjaKirby> Slimeballs
#719 [16:26] <RonAsor_> Am I missing something here? O_o
#720 [16:26] <NinjaKirby> lol, it's like that Star Wars court case argument
#721 [16:27] <SlashLife> Building underwater is a real PITA.
#722 [16:28] <RonAsor_> if you have a long clock (lets say its powered over 5 ticks), and you set a repeater behind the piston for 4 ticks, you will get on the output of it 1 tick powered, 4 ticks unpowered.
#723 [16:29] <RonAsor_> while powering current into a block connected to sticky piston.
#724 [16:29] <RonAsor_> its good if you want doors to shut down fast, or circuitry that needs to go down fast.
#725 [16:30] <RonAsor_> If you sync it correctly, you can have a clock of 2 ticks, from different clock sources. though I havnt tried it yet.
#726 [16:31] <RonAsor_> using repeaters as diodes will ensure you wont get the current back to the clocks, and make them operate independedly.
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#729 [16:39] <Carlos> I purchsed a gift code and put it in in the redeem but cant download the game? any help
#730 [16:43] <NinjaKirby> Have you managed to download Minecraft.exe to your Computer?
#731 [16:43] <Carlos> it wont let it says my account is not premimum
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#733 [16:44] <Calinou> Carlos, the launcher... you can start the launcher just fine normally
#734 [16:44] <Calinou> redeem for a registered account, log in with the account
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#737 [16:45] <HUNT3RProductions216> hello
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#739 [16:45] <HUNT3RProductions216> Anyone good with computers?
#740 [16:45] <sugoi> HUNT3RProductions216: i am a computer, does that help?
#741 [16:45] <HUNT3RProductions216> lol kind of
#742 [16:46] <HUNT3RProductions216> I'm building my computer and gonna order the parts over the next few weeks
#743 [16:46] <HUNT3RProductions216> I got everything ready on amazon and it comes up to £650
#744 [16:46] <sugoi> ah, mail-order bride, my sister was built that way
#745 [16:47] <HUNT3RProductions216> lol
#746 [16:47] <HUNT3RProductions216> brb
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#748 [16:47] <Carlos> the account is under gift codes in my profile page does that mean it has been redemed?
#749 [16:48] <sugoi> Carlos: i believe so, yes (it has not been used)
#750 [16:49] <TheNoodle> Carlos, When the gift code has been redeemed there'll be an account name next to the code.
#751 [16:49] <Carlos> there is no name
#752 [16:52] <Calinou> R A G E Q U I T
#753 [16:52] <Calinou> (hunt3rproductions216)
#754 [16:55] <Ash_sotf> why when i type in game as a "surviver" does the prefix not show, with bpermissions? -> config
#755 [16:55] <Ash_sotf> http://pastie.org/4058151
#756 [16:57] <Morrolan> You will need a chat manager to support prefixes.
#757 [16:57] <RonAsor_> Wug: I have the translation file ready, under this link - https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4ZBAgal38QHdXdhbXhhSzNpVEE
#758 [16:57] <Morrolan> E.g. Herochat, or the one from bPermission's dev.
#759 [16:57] <Ash_sotf> ok thanks
#760 [16:58] <Ash_sotf> whats the difference between bukkit and bukkitdev?
#761 [16:58] <RonAsor_> Wug: I have fixed many reference points such as refering a single person to be multiple.
#762 [16:59] <RonAsor_> Wug: And made it more balanced - no different name per a variety of the same item (i.e golden chestplate was translated as golden body)
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#764 [16:59] <Calinou> bChatManager is the plugin from codename_b
#765 [17:00] <Ash_sotf> i have just got bChatManager, and the prefixes are now showing up :)
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#767 [17:05] <RonAsor_> I need to re-fix the Advanced openGL translation again. it appears flipped one the menu
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#769 [17:05] <Nathan2055> My Wolves have glitched.
#770 [17:05] <RonAsor_> I'd see what i can up to on the upcoming week.
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#772 [17:06] <Nathan2055> I decided to move my doghouse away from my farm.
#773 [17:06] <POW3R_HF> Hello
#774 [17:06] <Nathan2055> As soon as I un-sat my dogs, one ran to the cow farm and stared at fence. He won't teleport at all.
#775 [17:07] <POW3R_HF> I own the account Mason_Craft and I would like to trade it in for the non-premium account that I own as well, POW3R_HF
#776 [17:07] <POW3R_HF> Is that possable?
#777 [17:07] <Nathan2055> The other followed for a moment. Then he went to the pig farm and did the same thing.
#778 [17:07] <Nathan2055> Both can be sat and pushed, but they tp back to the farm when I pick them up.
#779 [17:08] <Nathan2055> What do I do?
#780 [17:08] <Nathan2055> Vanilla MC 1.2.
#781 [17:08] <Ash_sotf> go get new wolves
#782 [17:08] <Nathan2055> I'm on an island.
#783 [17:09] <Calinou> ...I don't really understand
#784 [17:09] <Nathan2055> I've caught all the wolves that there are,
#785 [17:09] <Calinou> try dumping water on your wolves
#786 [17:09] <Ash_sotf> single player?
#787 [17:09] <Nathan2055> These are the only two that remain.
#788 [17:09] <Nathan2055> Yes.
#789 [17:09] <Nathan2055> Seed = punchwood.com
#790 [17:09] <Calinou> lo
#791 [17:09] <Nathan2055> Yeah.
#792 [17:09] <POW3R_HF> I own the account Mason_Craft and I would like to trade it in for the non-premium account that I own as well, POW3R_HF
#793 [17:09] <Nathan2055> The site owner tested it.
#794 [17:09] <POW3R_HF> Is that allowed/Possible?
#795 [17:09] <Nathan2055> It's gone viral.
#796 [17:10] <Nathan2055> POW3R_HF: No.
#797 [17:10] <Boreeas> POW3R_HF: Nope
#798 [17:10] <POW3R_HF> Why nots :C
#799 [17:10] <Nathan2055> POW3R_HF: Not until Mojang implements account renaming in 1.4ish.
#800 [17:10] <Nathan2055> So no.
#801 [17:10] <Nathan2055> Buy MC again.
#802 [17:10] <POW3R_HF> damn it, I thought that was happening in 1.3
#803 [17:10] <Ash_sotf> what, basically you want to change the name?
#804 [17:10] <Nathan2055> That's all we can say to do.
#805 [17:10] <POW3R_HF> I need a different name
#806 [17:11] <Ash_sotf> y
#807 [17:11] <POW3R_HF> I am changing my identidy :p
#808 [17:11] <POW3R_HF> To go with HackForums
#809 [17:11] <Ash_sotf> the only possible thing you can do is trade acc with a trusted friend
#810 [17:11] <POW3R_HF> well that wouldn't have the same name now would it o3o
#811 [17:12] <Ash_sotf> thats the only way your going to get a different name..free i guess
#812 [17:12] <POW3R_HF> lol free and legal you mean
#813 [17:12] <POW3R_HF> :P
#814 [17:12] <Ash_sotf> :P
#815 [17:13] <Boreeas> POW3R_HF: You could also try to sell your current account and use the money to buy the premium status for your new account
#816 [17:13] <POW3R_HF> Hack Forums stopped the trading of MC account and MC giftcodes do to legal issues
#817 [17:13] <Nathan2055> That's illleagl.
#818 [17:13] <Nathan2055> *illegal
#819 [17:13] <POW3R_HF> Ik
#820 [17:13] <Nathan2055> :scam
#821 [17:13] <WugBot> scam: Do not buy minecraft from anywhere except http://minecraft.net There is a high probability that the gift code you purchase will later be disabled.
#822 [17:13] <WugBot> scam: This scam is possible because it is possible to perform a chargeback on the payment made for the gift code. This results in the money being transferred back into the buyers account and Mojang disabling the gift code.
#823 [17:13] <POW3R_HF> Thats why they stopped it
#824 [17:13] <Ash_sotf> there would be no point, because its easily hackable by the previous owner
#825 [17:13] <POW3R_HF> Meh
#826 [17:13] <Ash_sotf> thats why i said trusted friend
#827 [17:14] <POW3R_HF> Its more people get 1000s of accounts for MC spammers
#828 [17:14] <Boreeas> POW3R_HF: Don't do it over HackForums then. Use friends, etc.
#829 [17:14] <POW3R_HF> Ik
#830 [17:14] <POW3R_HF> o3o
#831 [17:14] <Boreeas> Someone you trust and that trusts you, in any case
#832 [17:15] <POW3R_HF> Im just gonna give some stuff to someone on a server for a giftcode o3o
#833 [17:16] <POW3R_HF> Well by guise
#834 [17:16] <POW3R_HF> :P
#835 [17:16] <Nathan2055> Good grief.
#836 [17:16] <Nathan2055> Some people just don't listen to :scam
#837 [17:18] <Nathan2055> What about my wolf problem?
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#839 [17:29] <Ash_sotf> does b permissions use the group and users file outside the world folders, or the ones in the world folders?
#840 [17:32] <Boreeas> Ash_sotf: Try asking that in #bananacode
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#842 [17:59] <Ravenesti> sooo annoying....
#843 [17:59] <Ravenesti> spiders in general
#844 [17:59] <Ash_sotf> is this set to invite only?
#845 [18:21] <Ash_sotf> hey
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#851 [18:41] <george2> Hello, I have a problem with getting falsebook to load on a bukkit server
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#853 [18:59] <RTKUser_907> hello and good night, i have a question.... i cant bind to port 25561 UDP but why i have set the port in my router
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#856 [19:20] <ardourx> Hello
#857 [19:20] <ardourx> .
#858 [19:20] <ardourx> .
#859 [19:21] <RTKUser_907> hello
#860 [19:22] <ardourx> Im trying to mod minecraft, can't get forge to run
#861 [19:22] <ardourx> What is latest version?
#862 [19:22] <RTKUser_907> version 1.2.5 from minecraft bukkit
#863 [19:23] <ardourx> 1.2.5 is the minecraft version. Forge has about 6 version that are supposed to run on minecraft 1.2.5
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#865 [19:24] <sam11120a> How do you craft a fire charge?
#866 [19:25] <RTKUser_907> fire charge ?
#867 [19:26] <sam11120a> I think it was introduced in 1.2.4 or something
#868 [19:26] <sam11120a> Maybe 1.0.0, not Alpha
#869 [19:26] <sam11120a> Food
#870 [19:27] <RTKUser_907> no the version from the plugin is 1.2.5 too
#871 [19:27] <sam11120a> Search "fire charge minecraft
#872 [19:27] <sam11120a> on google
#873 [19:28] <RTKUser_907> ok :D
#874 [19:28] <RTKUser_907> ah this is fire charge ^^
#875 [19:28] <sam11120a> My browser sucks
#876 [19:29] <RTKUser_907> which browser do you have
#877 [19:29] <sam11120a> Internet Explorer 7 or less, I don't know
#878 [19:30] <RTKUser_907> mozilla firefox or opera is very nice
#879 [19:31] <sam11120a> My stupid computer won't let me install it, it runs Windows ME
#880 [19:31] <RTKUser_907> oh this is bad
#881 [19:31] <RTKUser_907> oh this is bad
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#886 [19:57] <Kryil-> Hi guys. Before searching the net for a bunch of posts and strange methods: is there a posibility to buy minecraft legaly with the german ELV? It is mentioned on the minecraft-page, but the transaction fails and moneybookers asks me to use another pay-method. I mean, is it me? Don't think it is mentioned there if it can't work :)
#887 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Try paypal?
#888 [19:57] <Kryil-> Got no paypal ;)
#889 [19:58] <Kryil-> Activating with german elv takes around... 3 days or so
#890 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Account is free, don't even need to make an accou- oh
#891 [19:58] <GreyVulpine> Well, it's still an option
#892 [19:59] <Kryil-> Would be the last. Just wondering since I can "try" to buy it via ELV
#893 [20:00] <GreyVulpine> Mojang uses Moneybookers and paypal, primarily to process transactions. If Moneybookers won't accept it, well..
#894 [20:02] <Kryil-> hm, to bad. They should just kill the option on the page, to avoid the confusion. Then I need a paypal acc :x
#895 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> Kryil-: I'm curious - where on the minecraft page is ELV mentioned?
#896 [20:10] <Kryil-> DiskDaemon: klicking "buy now", "buy minecraft for this account", then there is a list with payment methods
#897 [20:10] <Kryil-> one is ELV
#898 [20:10] <Kryil-> Germany selected, for sure
#899 [20:11] <Kryil-> However, according to the error message (was hoping there is another method) moneybookers, what is automaticly selected, don't support ELV
#900 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> Thanks, I'll let someone there know about that.
#901 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> It won't likely allow ELV to be used, but at least they might be able to clean up any confusion there
#902 [20:15] <Kryil-> Yeah, "should" be done. Not a big issue, but it's better ;)
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#911 [21:11] <|Anthony|> are there any server plugins for music that do not require spoutcraft
#912 [21:12] <|Anthony|> or some client side thing
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#914 [21:13] <|Anthony|> would be nice to have music in my lounge without have to tell my players to go get spout or to open their browser to listen to server tunes
#915 [21:16] <superkabii> how would that possibly work.
#916 [21:16] <superkabii> unless it was noteblocks.
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#918 [21:22] <ZeroChill> What ways are there to obtain cactus in a world where cactus' cannot be found?!
#919 [21:22] <ZeroChill> I may have worded that in a stupid way.
#920 [21:22] <|Anthony|> use /give
#921 [21:22] <superkabii> cactus are pretty common in any desert biome...
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#923 [21:23] <synap> Well, Apparantly, the evil minions mod just ain't going to run :(. I see thet modloader loads it, all the other mods work fine. :(
#924 [21:23] <synap> anyone a clue?
#925 [21:23] <ZeroChill> I know they are common in desert biomes...I don't have a desert biome.
#926 [21:23] <superkabii> explore!
#927 [21:23] <ZeroChill> Did.
#928 [21:23] <superkabii> branch out!
#929 [21:23] <ZeroChill> I'm looking for an alternate route.
#930 [21:23] <ZeroChill> To obtain cacti.
#931 [21:24] <ZeroChill> Can bonemeal be used with sand to grow cacti?
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#933 [21:25] <RonAsor_> You know you can always get out of the map and craft a new one, so youll have a infinite large areas to explore.
#934 [21:26] <ZeroChill> Xbox version.
#935 [21:26] <RonAsor_> Make an elevated-rail line,.
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#937 [21:26] <RonAsor_> I dont see why it differs.
#938 [21:26] <Ri5ux> Anyone know of any modding channels? Cuz i have this great mod ive been workin on and need help
#939 [21:27] <ZeroChill> Uh...I don't find any useful advice from what you said.
#940 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Ri5ux - #risucraft
#941 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Also, #mcp-modding
#942 [21:27] <RonAsor_> Thats mainly the only way finding desert biomes which cacti grow on.
#943 [21:27] <ZeroChill> I searched man, I searched.
#944 [21:28] <Ri5ux> GreyVulpine, risucraft ppl just ignore me... and kick me
#945 [21:28] <Ri5ux> >_>
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#947 [21:28] <ZeroChill> Perhaps if I put a whole bunch of sand blocks by each other they would miraculously grow??
#948 [21:29] <RonAsor_> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Cactus look at the growing condition.
#949 [21:30] <ZeroChill> I know the conditions...I'm just trying to exhaust any and all possibilities here.
#950 [21:30] <RonAsor_> I dontk now if you have any debug screen, but if you do, make sure that -> b: - > Is Desert.
#951 [21:30] <ZeroChill> Not applicable on xbox.
#952 [21:30] <ZeroChill> I just really want that green dye.
#953 [21:31] <RonAsor_> you could use a lime one instead
#954 [21:31] <RonAsor_> err nvm.
#955 [21:31] <ZeroChill> Isn't cactus green required to make that...
#956 [21:32] <ZeroChill> :\
#957 [21:32] <ZeroChill> Ah well I give up.
#958 [21:32] <ZeroChill> Stupid random world generators should even up the biomes.
#959 [21:33] <RonAsor_> Yeah I dont know why I thought you can use a lily pad instead.
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#961 [21:34] <ZeroChill> There must only be lily pads in the pc version.
#962 [21:34] <glitchy> yeah :P
#963 [21:34] <glitchy> o wait
#964 [21:34] <glitchy> why is there 8
#965 [21:34] <glitchy> on my tabs
#966 [21:34] <ZeroChill> Yes.
#967 [21:34] <superkabii> Xbox is like.. Minecraft 1.6.. so no.
#968 [21:34] <glitchy> closed it
#969 [21:34] <ZeroChill> Yah they have a lot of updates to deploy....
#970 [21:35] <glitchy> lol
#971 [21:35] <RonAsor_> Nah there isnt. i just thought its a possible combination.
#972 [21:36] <RonAsor_> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Dyes
#973 [21:36] <RonAsor_> all possible combos.
#974 [21:36] <ZeroChill> One day I shall find the unobtainable cactus, and that day...shall be absolutely glorious! Mwuahahaha!
#975 [21:36] <glitchy> hey
#976 [21:36] <glitchy> i have awesome texture packs
#977 [21:37] <glitchy> from curse client test
#978 [21:37] <glitchy> its awesome
#979 [21:37] <RonAsor_> hehe, i'd recommend you starting to dig out as many gold and iron as you can to make rails in order to explore larger areas.
#980 [21:37] <ZeroChill> hey...woopadeedoodahday!
#981 [21:37] <ZeroChill> Quisaz.
#982 [21:37] <ZeroChill> I mean perhaps.
#983 [21:37] <RonAsor_> and make the elevated minecart rail, so you could cover large areas without a flinch.
#984 [21:37] <ZeroChill> I'd rather not.
#985 [21:37] <ZeroChill> Waste of time and resources.
#986 [21:37] <glitchy> http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/518-curse-client-now-includes-texturepacks-and-minecraft-news/
#987 [21:38] <glitchy> thats the link
#988 [21:38] <RonAsor_> just dont forget to add torches on the sides, Ive ended up with a creeper on the rail.
#989 [21:38] <ZeroChill> Nah not gonna happen. I'd rather go on foot or boat.
#990 [21:38] <RonAsor_> Nah, when you dig a large cave underground, you will get more resources than you ever needed.
#991 [21:38] <glitchy> ZEROCHILL
#992 [21:38] <ZeroChill> What do you want from me.
#993 [21:38] <RonAsor_> Tip: try to dig on level 12.
#994 [21:39] <glitchy> click the link i just sent you
#995 [21:39] <ZeroChill> NO!
#996 [21:39] <ZeroChill> I have xbox version! Everything you are saying does not apply to me!
#997 [21:39] <glitchy> or else u get no minecraft
#998 [21:39] <RonAsor_> thats where you basicly find tons of diamonds, and turn out to have lava under your feet.
#999 [21:39] <ZeroChill> Whatever dude.
#1000 [21:39] <ZeroChill> Yah man I've heard about that already.
#1001 [21:39] <ZeroChill> Thanks anyways though.
#1002 [21:39] <RonAsor_> you can find those, keep diggin till youll hit the lowest level of bedrock (level 1) and start jumping, every block is 1 level.
#1003 [21:39] <glitchy> OOOOOHHHHHHH you just said u have an xbox!
#1004 [21:40] <glitchy> well
#1005 [21:40] <glitchy> get pc
#1006 [21:40] <ZeroChill> Glitchy..you manage to annoy the sheeeeeeit out of me.
#1007 [21:40] <ZeroChill> PEACE!
#1008 [21:40] <glitchy> D:
#1009 [21:43] <glitchy> @RonAsor_
#1010 [21:43] <glitchy> wtf
#1011 [21:46] <ImJustPro> Lololololol
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#1020 [23:10] <ProEvils> anyone good with stargate permission nodes/bpermissions?
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#1026 [23:54] <Ravenesti> Wow... Never thought I would say I was bored playing... but it happened. Sooo tired of looking for diamonds
#1027 [23:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Raven
#1028 [23:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Go cave hopping.
#1029 [23:54] <CrusaderDeleters> It's the fasted, and least boring way to search for diamonds
#1030 [23:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Or you can get some mods, and say "Screw diamonds!"
#1031 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> There are some efficient tunnelling techniques that can be used, if you want to more efficiently scour an area
#1032 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Mining_Techniques
#1033 [23:59] <Ravenesti> Well... I don't really want to cheat per se
#1034 [23:59] <Ravenesti> Been thinking of doing a LP on youtube but just never start it.