#MinecraftHelp > 2012-06-15
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#4 [00:46] <Arahknid> Hitting up a couple channels to see if I can find someone that can figure it out
#5 [00:47] <Sir_Lardman> There must be some kind of conflict then
#6 [00:47] <Sir_Lardman> Try #Risucraft
#7 [00:49] <Arahknid> Ah, think the culprit might be a forge update that the mods weren't accounting for. Time to roll forge back a spot
#8 [00:49] <Arahknid> Ah, think the culprit might be a forge update that the mods weren't accounting for. Time to roll forge back a spot
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#14 [02:14] <Liraxus> Hello, is anyone here?
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#37 [08:03] <Pony> Yo guys 1 of my friends from my server has a problem with FPS falling from 100 to 10 when he plays minecraft he have just got new computer do u got any idea what it may be?
#38 [08:05] <lutzee> The game saving, new chunks generating, running out of ram (the ram it has been allocated), bad graphics drivers, cpu can't cope, there's a lot of things it could be
#39 [08:06] <Pony> hmm it should be a new good computer cant be the ram
#40 [08:07] <Necrodoom> and minecraft errors, aswell
#41 [08:07] <Necrodoom> if you hit a lighting error it can stutter minecraft
#42 [08:07] <lutzee> you will have to allocate more to minecraft, otherwise it will only use 1gb by default
#43 [08:07] <Pony> Could it be hes windows having problems?
#44 [08:07] <lutzee> er yeah lighting is another thing..
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#50 [08:27] <bababa> hi guys, is it possible to play minecraft as a pc user with a xbox user together?
#51 [08:28] <DiskDaemon> no, that's not possible
#52 [08:28] <bababa> oh, damn :/
#53 [08:28] <bababa> okay thank you
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#60 [09:06] <ALASKAMAN> hi
#61 [09:06] <ALASKAMAN> any one know where can get download not enought items
#62 [09:07] <DiskDaemon> From the minecraft forums
#63 [09:07] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/909223-
#64 [09:08] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/909223-125-smp-chickenbones-mods/
#65 [09:08] <Calinou> found it... got ninja'd
#66 [09:08] * DiskDaemon fist bumbs Calinou
#66 [09:08] <DiskDaemon> and fails at spellings :)
#67 [09:10] <ALASKAMAN> ya but thire only 1.2.4 to 1.2.5
#68 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> What version do you require?
#69 [09:11] <ALASKAMAN> i need 1.2.5
#70 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> That is the one for Minecraft 1.2.5
#71 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> "Not Enough Items (NEI) 1.2.2.4 for [1.2.5]"
#72 [09:15] <ALASKAMAN> but i dont see an download link
#73 [09:15] <lutzee> it's in the spoilers
#74 [09:18] <lutzee> /home/jamie/Dropbox/Public/random/Screenshot from 2012-06-15 14:18:01.png
#75 [09:18] <lutzee> oops
#76 [09:18] <lutzee> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/random/Screenshot%20from%202012-06-15%2014%3A18%3A01.png
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#78 [09:22] <ALASKAMAN> any idea if it workwith Magic Launcher
#79 [09:22] <lutzee> if you install it right i guess
#80 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> Yes, it works
#81 [09:23] <ALASKAMAN> hmm
#82 [09:24] <ALASKAMAN> thought thire option for it
#83 [09:27] <DiskDaemon> I fail to understand you.
#84 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> ALASKAMAN: How can we help further?
#85 [09:34] <DiskDaemon> Just to ge the obvious out of the way, because it's spelled out in detail in the "Install Instructions + Downloads" section of the page, you require three mods to use NEI. 1. Modloader 2. NEI 3. CodeChickenCore
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#89 [09:42] <Dallas> Good morning guys. I'm running a Minecraft server out of my house. When connecting to it on the local network, everything works great (nether is a little laggy). When connecting to it form outside my network (IP routing) the terrain either only loads a few squares around you, or doesn't load at all and you just fall
#90 [09:42] <Dallas> I've updated everything, checked for error messages (none), reinstalled the JRE, restarted the server many times, I have run out of ideas
#91 [09:43] <Dallas> Server is an i5 3570K, 32G RAM, 2 x 1TB WB Black RAID 0
#92 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> What results do you get at http://www.speedtest.net/
#93 [09:43] <Dallas> Only thing running is Minecraft
#94 [09:43] <ALASKAMAN> any idea what would make it so cant colect Cobblestone
#95 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Are you using a pickaxe ALASKAMAN?
#96 [09:44] <ALASKAMAN> umm no since you dont start with 1
#97 [09:44] <Necrodoom> you need to punch trees, first off
#98 [09:45] <Necrodoom> then put log in crafting grid
#99 [09:45] <DiskDaemon> ALASKAMAN: Here's a beginners guide for you http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner's_guide
#100 [09:45] <Necrodoom> ^ nvm
#101 [09:45] <Dallas> 21ms, 2.79Mbps, 1.89 Mbps
#102 [09:45] <Dallas> It's a bit slow today
#103 [09:46] <DiskDaemon> That wouldn't affect the server all that much though, with a 1 or 2 Mbps throughput
#104 [09:47] <Dallas> Other random info: No server settings or plugins changed between the time external connections were working and when they went to shyt
#105 [09:47] <Dallas> Nothing else was installed on server. It's used for minecraft and watching movies
#106 [09:47] <DiskDaemon> what plugins are you running?
#107 [09:48] <Dallas> Running the Bukkit server manager. bPermissions, Pail, InventorySQL, CommandBook, CraftBukkitUpToDate, bChatManager
#108 [09:48] <Dallas> Those are stock with Bukkit
#109 [09:49] <SinZ> ask in #bukkit, not here
#110 [09:49] <Dallas> Addons are DwarfForge, Lumos Maxima, Stargate, SpawnMob, SimpleHome, and Tombstone
#111 [09:49] <DiskDaemon> Do you get the same slow chunk loading issue without bukkit?
#112 [09:49] <DiskDaemon> I'd see how your performance goes with a vanilla server
#113 [09:49] <Dallas> This same problem happens in servers with and without bukkit. It's a game issue
#114 [09:50] * DiskDaemon throws hands up in to the air
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#116 [09:55] <Dallas> Sorry, had to switch networks to test that.
#117 [09:55] <Dallas> Yes, the same thing happens with and without bukkit
#118 [09:55] <Dallas> Running the server vanilla renders the same falling result. None of the plugins were being loaded since the bukkit manager wasn't involved
#119 [09:55] <lukegb> Hmm. How's it connected?
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#121 [09:56] <Dallas> The server is in my living room plugged into my router
#122 [09:56] <lukegb> So ethernet. Is the link negotiated right? There's no reason it shouldn't, but...
#123 [09:56] <DiskDaemon> Which OS is the server running?
#124 [09:57] <Dallas> I'm testing by connecting my laptop to a community (external) wireless network and connecting to my local network's external IP and getting routed through
#125 [09:57] <Dallas> Server is Win7 Unt
#126 [09:57] <DiskDaemon> Thanks, that can help to narrow down the research
#127 [09:57] <lukegb> Hrm.
#128 [09:57] <Dallas> Running JRE 7 64bit
#129 [09:57] * lutzee mumbles "use linux for server"
#129 [09:58] <Dallas> I'm fairly certain the OS has nothing to do with the map textures not loading
#130 [09:58] <Dallas> My next test will be to switch worlds on the same server and try to connect to that... don't know why I haven't already done that
#131 [09:59] <Dallas> ...but I'll have to do it after work
#132 [09:59] <Dallas> Any suggestions or tests to run?
#133 [09:59] <lutzee> hehe just preference windows runs a lot of background stuff and isn't designed for servers really
#134 [09:59] <Dallas> True. If it were just for game servers, I'd run UBUNTU and have fun... but it will have more functions shortly
#135 [10:00] <DiskDaemon> Dallas: Can you run System Info, save it out to a file, and upload the text contents of that file to somewhere like pastebin.com ?
#136 [10:01] <Dallas> Run system info?
#137 [10:01] <Dallas> You want hardware specs?
#138 [10:01] <DiskDaemon> Yes, it turns up in the Start menu when you type System
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#140 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> Exporting the results to a text file, is typically useful
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#142 [10:04] <DiskDaemon> And, I'm past 2am so have to leave this to others. All the best there
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#144 [10:06] <Dallas> http://usmctexas.com/files/ServerSpecs.txt
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#157 [11:09] <Beres> hello
#158 [11:09] <Beres> I was wondering if i could get a responce from a minecraft server by sending a random packet from IRC.
#159 [11:10] <Beres> i mean i can send packets but i m not receiving any responce at all.
#160 [11:11] <Beres> anybody~?
#161 [11:14] <Calinou> Beres, hi RandomHaxor226 :P
#162 [11:14] <Calinou> dunno
#163 [11:14] <Beres> hello
#164 [11:14] <Beres> ..
#165 [11:15] <Beres> been sending tcp and udp random packets but server never responds
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#170 [11:21] <h4x0r> hello minecrafter somebody using plugin AntiShare? :)
#171 [11:23] <h4x0r> i think its too much people to answer me :D
#172 [11:23] <Necrodoom> h4x0r: never heard of it
#173 [11:23] <h4x0r> that plugin is blocking griefing from creative gamemode :)
#174 [11:24] <Calinou> Beres, minecraft only uses TCP, and UDP for the query protocol
#175 [11:24] <Calinou> send the right ones?
#176 [11:24] <Beres> yes
#177 [11:24] <Beres> but i m not sure what to write on the packet
#178 [11:26] <h4x0r> anybody can help me with that plugin (AntiShare) ???? I NEED help :(
#179 [11:28] <SinZ> Beres: http://wiki.vg/Protocol
#180 [11:29] <SinZ> the protocol has been fully documentated,
#181 [11:29] <SinZ> .*
#182 [11:30] <Beres> wow thanks =)
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#185 [11:42] <Calinou> SinZ, documented not documentated
#186 [11:42] <SinZ> indeed
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#189 [11:58] <tommy71394> Hi?
#190 [11:59] <lutzee> hey
#191 [11:59] <tommy71394> Why is PayPal payment method removed from malaysia to Minecraft?
#192 [12:00] <tommy71394> I take that back, I meant why was PayPal payment method removed?
#193 [12:00] <Necrodoom> tommy71394: this is an unoffical IRC chat
#194 [12:00] <tommy71394> So... where is the official IRC chat?
#195 [12:00] <lutzee> there isn't
#196 [12:00] <lutzee> we volenteer to help how we can
#197 [12:01] <Necrodoom> mojang venting people with billing problems to unoffical chats
#198 [12:01] <Necrodoom> due to the fact they dont read support anymore
#199 [12:01] <tommy71394> How do you make your name red to reply people?
#200 [12:01] <Necrodoom> i type your name
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#202 [12:02] <hodor> everytime*
#203 [12:02] <Necrodoom> why pistons? water work better, no?
#204 [12:03] <hodor> well, what i've done is used the pistons to hold back the water
#205 [12:03] <tommy71394> i cant get the red name thing work xDD Hmm...
#206 [12:03] <tommy71394> Try giving us a screenshot
#207 [12:03] <hodor> and when the farm is ready i switch the pistons and release the water
#208 [12:03] <Necrodoom> tommy71394: it shows red only to the guy you are talking to
#209 [12:03] <hodor> ok let me get a few screenies for you all
#210 [12:03] <tommy71394> necrodoom test?
#211 [12:03] <lutzee> tommy71394....it's a ping, we say your name, it highlights our message for you
#212 [12:03] <tommy71394> did it work?
#213 [12:04] <lutzee> if you highlight out name we will see but you wont
#214 [12:04] <tommy71394> Ohhh
#215 [12:04] <lutzee> our*
#216 [12:04] <tommy71394> @lutzee understood :D
#217 [12:04] <tommy71394> did it work? xD
#218 [12:05] <hodor> ok, here is my setup : http://i.imgur.com/iLSYY.jpg
#219 [12:05] <lutzee> yes
#220 [12:06] <hodor> basically, the pistons hold back the water, and i have a switch that pulls back the pistons and realeases the water to harvest the crops
#221 [12:06] <Necrodoom> looks simple enough
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#223 [12:06] <Necrodoom> though you could easily expand
#224 [12:06] <hodor> the problem is that everytime i release the water, the first tier of farmland's wheat is completely destroyed, and I don't get any wheat out of it
#225 [12:07] <hodor> i was wondering if you guys have had the same problem and if there's been a solution that's been discovered
#226 [12:07] <tommy71394> @hodor Are you sure your wheat was fully grown?
#227 [12:07] <hodor> yep
#228 [12:07] <hodor> it was all yellow and ready to go
#229 [12:08] <hodor> the second and third tiers are fine, i get almost 85% efficiency out of them
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#231 [12:08] <hodor> its just the first tier that i get only like 3% efficiency
#232 [12:09] <tommy71394> @hodor I don't understand the problem... It SHOULD work fine.
#233 [12:09] <hodor> lol
#234 [12:09] <hodor> it does work,
#235 [12:10] <hodor> as long as you only want the last two tiers worth of wheat
#236 [12:10] <Necrodoom> "its minecraft?"
#237 [12:10] <tommy71394> @hodor try placing the water behind the piston, not like 5 blocks away.
#238 [12:10] <tommy71394> I g2g now guys
#239 [12:10] <tommy71394> bye all
#240 [12:10] <hodor> necrodoom: yep, that was my intuition too, i guess i'll just have to live with it
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#242 [21:52] <jamietech> ;ip
#243 [21:52] <WugBot> IP address of jamietech is: 96.30.3.17
#244 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid CrusaderDeleters
#245 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> goodie.
#246 [22:05] <JoshFong> Alright... I'll have to wait 'til the morning to see if it worked or not.
#247 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> kk
#248 [22:05] <JoshFong> Unless one of you want to try the link?
#249 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> gimmeh
#250 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> c:
#251 [22:06] <Wug> Kealper: uhh
#252 [22:06] <JoshFong> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/f196352971cc4331cfce87d27e64a657
#253 [22:07] <Kealper> Wug: "uhh" indeed
#254 [22:07] <Kealper> i was thinking to myself "shit.. that sucks"
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#256 [22:08] <CrusaderDeleters> still not up
#257 [22:09] <JoshFong> Alright. Well, that's with the port forwarding, assuming that worked.
#258 [22:09] <lutzee> check to see if the port is open
#259 [22:09] <JoshFong> How can I check?
#260 [22:10] <Kealper> uhh.... type the word !check in this chat
#261 [22:10] <JoshFong> !check
#262 [22:10] <JoshFong> !check 25565
#263 [22:10] <lutzee> classic uses 25565?
#264 [22:10] <Kealper> always has
#265 [22:10] <CrusaderDeleters> mmhmmm
#266 [22:10] <lutzee> okay
#267 [22:10] <CrusaderDeleters> all minecraft
#268 [22:10] <CrusaderDeleters> it's default.
#269 [22:10] <lutzee> well portforwarding has not worked
#270 [22:10] <JoshFong> I see.
#271 [22:10] <Marc_IRL> Ooh, that paid bot is awesome
#272 [22:10] <JoshFong> Be right back
#273 [22:11] <Lardman> Marc, you got Admin! :D
#274 [22:11] <Marc_IRL> !paid MidnightEnforcer
#275 [22:11] <Marc_IRL> Yay!
#276 [22:11] <Kealper> rofl
#277 [22:11] <JoshFong> Back...
#278 [22:11] <lutzee> marc, a lot of the bots have the premium checker
#279 [22:11] <Wug> ;check Marc_IRL:80
#280 [22:11] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: 96.50.0.56:80 (Timed out)
#281 [22:11] <Kealper> but AuBot was the first!
#282 [22:11] <Lardman> I go the old fashioned way
#283 [22:11] <lutzee> !paid lutzee
#284 [22:11] <Lardman> >_>
#285 [22:12] <Marc_IRL> I like my way better :p
#286 [22:12] <Wug> Lardman: so do the bots
#287 [22:12] <Wug> its not that much complicated
#288 [22:12] <Wug> er
#289 [22:12] <Lardman> The bots are just as cool as me then :P
#290 [22:12] <Lardman> *hipster*
#291 [22:12] * Kealper was making Minecraft services bots before it was cool *hipster*
#291 [22:12] <Wug> ^
#292 [22:13] <Marc_IRL> Okay, I'm gonna head out of here so I can finish working before it's like, tomorrow.
#293 [22:13] <Lardman> Cya Marc
#294 [22:13] <lutzee> Cya Marc
#295 [22:13] <Kealper> lol
#296 [22:13] * GreyVulpine waves
#296 [22:13] <Wug> Marc_IRL: do you have a bouncher
#297 [22:13] <lutzee> :3
#298 [22:13] <Wug> sudo apt-get install znc
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#300 [22:13] <Kealper> sudo pacman -S znc is better :o
#301 [22:14] <ShaRose> Cool people build from source.
#302 [22:14] * Kealper can't argue with that
#302 [22:14] <Marc_IRL> A bouncher?
#303 [22:14] <lutzee> bouncer
#304 [22:14] <Lardman> I'll be the bouncer
#305 [22:14] <ShaRose> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_bouncer
#306 [22:14] <Kealper> Marc_IRL: chat bouncer, it acts as a proxy between you and the irc server, a lot of people use them
#307 [22:15] * Lardman puts on sun glasses and a leather jacket
#307 [22:15] <Marc_IRL> oh
#308 [22:15] <Lardman> Basically a proxy
#309 [22:15] <Lardman> But for IRC
#310 [22:15] <Lardman> \o/
#311 [22:15] <Marc_IRL> No, but I'm at an extended stay/hotel kinda thing for the month, and their network is set up all strange. I also can't connect to steam, any minecraft servers, or set up a router >_<
#312 [22:15] <ShaRose> Except it stays connected persistantly
#313 [22:16] <lutzee> you can have your PC off and still be connected
#314 [22:16] <Kealper> also lets you stay connected to the server while you're actually offline, so if someone PMs you while you're sleeping, when you reconnect you see them and such
#315 [22:16] <JoshFong> I'm following the port forwarding instructions exactly, and it's not working...
#316 [22:16] <Kealper> JoshFong: i'm not sure if it has been asked yet... but you do have the minecraft server running right now, right?
#317 [22:16] * lutzee needs a server outside his network..
#317 [22:16] <JoshFong> I just closed it.
#318 [22:17] <Kealper> ok, have you been closing it as soon as it said it was ready, or have you had it's window open while people were trying to connect?
#319 [22:17] <JoshFong> I've had it running the whole time I was trying to port forward/
#320 [22:18] <Kealper> ahh... hmm
#321 [22:18] <Kealper> do you know what your modem and your router are?
#322 [22:18] <JoshFong> I just tried it again with it off and it's still failing. // router, yeah. Modem...?
#323 [22:18] <lutzee> modem might be un your router
#324 [22:18] <lutzee> in*
#325 [22:19] <JoshFong> I have a cable modem that connects to my router...
#326 [22:19] <lutzee> then that is your modem
#327 [22:19] <Kealper> your modem is the thing that the TV cable plugs in to, and a big phone line looking wire comes out of
#328 [22:19] <Kealper> oh, so it is separate?
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#330 [22:19] <JoshFong> Yeah, it is.
#331 [22:19] <lutzee> mine is separate
#332 [22:19] <Kealper> is there more than 1 ethernet port on the back of your modem? (modem, not router)
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#337 [22:21] <JoshFong> The modem's a Motorola Surfboard SB5101, and let me check...
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#339 [22:21] <Kealper> ok i'm 99% sure what i was thinking was not the problem then
#340 [22:21] <JoshFong> Just one ethernet port on the modem.
#341 [22:21] <JoshFong> Router's a D-Link DIR-655.
#342 [22:21] <Kealper> hmm
#343 [22:22] <Kealper> has anyone had you try setting your computer's lan IP to the router's DMZ yet?
#344 [22:22] <JoshFong> Nope.
#345 [22:22] <Kealper> ok, try that... this will rule out if it's a problem in the router's forwarding settings or if your computer is blocking it
#346 [22:23] <JoshFong> Alright... how would I do that?
#347 [22:23] <Kealper> on most router config pages there is a page called "DMZ", can you see one in yours?
#348 [22:23] <lutzee> I have my ps3 in dmz using mac adress
#349 [22:24] <JoshFong> I'm looking..
#350 [22:24] <JoshFong> I'm not seeing it.
#351 [22:25] <Kealper> hmm... give me a second then, i'll see what i can find online
#352 [22:25] <Senix> Kealper, maybe you should have googled that first before actually trying to help him/her
#353 [22:26] <Kealper> thanks for the tip, because i've never helped here before
#354 [22:27] <Kealper> ok, JoshFong: go to the Advanced tab in your router page, and on the left side click "Firewall Settings"
#355 [22:27] <Kealper> when you scroll down, you'll see a section called "DMZ HOST"
#356 [22:27] <JoshFong> OK.
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#358 [22:28] <JoshFong> I'm there.
#359 [22:28] <Kealper> check the "Enable DMZ" box and then enter your computer's lan IP into the address spot... after that go up and click Save Settings
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#361 [22:28] <Lardman> I see we are going for the last ditch effort
#362 [22:29] <Kealper> Lardman: no, i would never recommend anyone to use the DMZ for good, this is just to see if it's a problem on the computer's end or the router's end
#363 [22:29] <JoshFong> I saved it, but everything I just did looks like it was undone. Same thing happened with the port forwardinf.
#364 [22:29] <JoshFong> *forwarding.
#365 [22:29] <Lardman> OH! okay
#366 [22:30] <Kealper> JoshFong: what do you mean by "everything"? including the DMZ setting you just changed, or did it just remove the port forwards to your computer?
#367 [22:31] <JoshFong> I mean, when I saved the port forward, it erased the port forward. When I saved the DMZ setting, it erased the DMZ setting.
#368 [22:31] <Kealper> oh my... that's od
#369 [22:31] <Kealper> odd*
#370 [22:32] * Kealper looks at some things real fast
#370 [22:32] <JoshFong> *nods*
#371 [22:34] <Kealper> hmm...were you trying to change the settings in the Virtual Server section or the Port Forwarding section?
#372 [22:35] <JoshFong> The Port Forwarding section.
#373 [22:35] <JoshFong> I know those two look very similar...
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#375 [22:36] * Kealper looks up the port forwarding guide on portforward.com to see what they say to use
#375 [22:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Josh
#376 [22:37] <Guest75111> Currently trying to find any way possible to fix migration account issues.
#377 [22:37] <CrusaderDeleters> what router you use?
#378 [22:37] <CrusaderDeleters> on?
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#380 [22:37] <lutzee> Marc_IRL, you still arround? ._.
#381 [22:37] <Lardman> What exactly is the problem Guest75111
#382 [22:37] <Kealper> CrusaderDeleters: he's got a Dlink DIR-655
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#384 [22:37] <CrusaderDeleters> uh... I quit, kealp. c:
#385 [22:37] <Guest75111> migrated original account to mojang account
#386 [22:37] <Reclaimer8265> i need help!
#387 [22:37] <Lardman> Reclaimer state your issue
#388 [22:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Guest, what are you trying to do.
#389 [22:37] <Lardman> Guest75111 what us the problem
#390 [22:38] <Lardman> is*
#391 [22:38] <Guest75111> unable to log in to minecraft to play
#392 [22:38] <CrusaderDeleters> guest: Use your email.
#393 [22:38] <Lardman> ^
#394 [22:38] <lutzee> ^
#395 [22:38] <Guest75111> cant receive the verification emails from mojang
#396 [22:38] <Kealper> JoshFong: just out of curiosity... what IP are you entering in to the IP address spots?
#397 [22:38] <Guest75111> email isnt working
#398 [22:38] <Lardman> Hold on
#399 [22:38] <JoshFong> @Kealper: for port forwarding?
#400 [22:38] <Guest75111> it states username invalid
#401 [22:38] <Kealper> JoshFong: yes
#402 [22:38] <Lardman> Guest, go here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/507459-i-ve-migrated-and-can-t-log-into-minecraft
#403 [22:39] <Lardman> What is your mc username?
#404 [22:39] <Reclaimer8265> when i go to log into a server i get an error that says " internal client error: java.net.unknownhostexception: session.minecraft.net"
#405 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> guest, do not put your name, put your Email.
#406 [22:39] <JoshFong> I'm not entering one.
#407 [22:39] <Kealper> JoshFong: uhh... you should be entering an IP, that is why it isn't applying
#408 [22:39] <Lardman> Okay, Guest... are you logging in using your email as your username?
#409 [22:39] <Guest75111> im putting the email but it states invalid.
#410 [22:39] <JoshFong> My computer's IP address?
#411 [22:39] <Lardman> can you login on minecraft.net or account.mojang.com
#412 [22:40] <Kealper> JoshFong: yes, it will start with 192.168.0
#413 [22:40] <Guest75111> and based on the mojang support page it looks like ill have to wait 2 months before i get an answer
#414 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> It's your IPv4
#415 [22:40] <Lardman> Not for this issue
#416 [22:40] <Lardman> This issue apparently has a filter and they get answered first
#417 [22:40] <lutzee> Guest75111, maybe not if marc is still around
#418 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Mojang support page is official; therefore cluttered by people.
#419 [22:40] <Lardman> Marc went to bed I think
#420 [22:40] <Reclaimer8265> can any one help me?
#421 [22:40] <Kealper> JoshFong: if you are not sure what your computer's internal IP address is, i can help you determine that
#422 [22:40] <Lardman> Hold on Reclaimer
#423 [22:40] <Guest75111> i can log in on mojang but minecraft isnt listed as one of my games
#424 [22:41] <Reclaimer8265> ok
#425 [22:41] <Marc_IRL> I heard my name
#426 [22:41] <Marc_IRL> And apparently I didn't close the window
#427 [22:41] <Lardman> Guest75111 has a problem
#428 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#429 [22:41] <Lardman> Yea...
#430 [22:41] <lutzee> account issue, Guest75111 can't access his account after migration
#431 [22:41] <Kealper> Marc_IRL: one can not simply walk out of Mordor
#432 [22:41] <JoshFong> I got my IP; it still gives me this message: Name can not be empty string.
#433 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Guest, did you use your Minecraft email as your mojang account?
#434 [22:41] <Marc_IRL> What's your Minecraft name?
#435 [22:42] <Kealper> JoshFong: what IP did you enter in there though? (and for the name, just set it as "Minecraft")
#436 [22:42] <Guest75111> i tried after migration but it stated that it is invalid
#437 [22:42] <Lardman> Guest75111 what is your mc username?
#438 [22:42] <lutzee> Guest75111, what's your minecraft user
#439 [22:42] <Guest75111> username is supadave117
#440 [22:42] <Reclaimer8265> lol
#441 [22:42] <Guest75111> i know...lol
#442 [22:42] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#443 [22:42] <JoshFong> My IPv4 address that pops up underipconfig
#444 [22:43] <lutzee> yes that
#445 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah
#446 [22:43] <Guest75111> any help?
#447 [22:43] <Lardman> He is looking
#448 [22:43] <lutzee> Guest75111, marc is working on it
#449 [22:43] <Guest75111> thank you
#450 [22:43] <lutzee> he's lead support at mojand
#451 [22:43] <lutzee> mojang*
#452 [22:43] <Marc_IRL> And you're trying to log in with your email address? The same one that you signed up for Minecraft with?
#453 [22:43] <Kealper> JoshFong: ok i'll assume you've got the correct one then... enter that one in the port forwarding section as the IP address and as for the name it wants... just call that Minecraft
#454 [22:43] <Wug> Marc_IRL: werent you going to go to bed
#455 [22:44] <Wug> ... maybe that doesnt make sense
#456 [22:44] <Kealper> JoshFong: set the other stuff up as-required and save it again, and see if it takes the settings this time
#457 [22:44] <Guest75111> that is correct marc
#458 [22:44] <Wug> herp. ignore me
#459 [22:44] <Marc_IRL> Wug: No, I was going to finish work for the night so I could finally play video games on my friday night :p
#460 [22:44] <Wug> Marc_IRL: :o do you have starcraft 2
#461 [22:44] <lutzee> marc is still in canada i believe and west coast too
#462 [22:44] <Lardman> [19:40] <Guest75111> i can log in on mojang but minecraft isnt listed as one of my games
#463 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> wug, marc is helping someone. c:
#464 [22:44] <Guest75111> i appreciate the help marc
#465 [22:45] <JoshFong> I do that; I click Save Settings, and the page refreshes with a message that says, "Name can not be empty string."
#466 [22:45] <Reclaimer8265> i know how to fix it
#467 [22:45] <lutzee> JoshFong, what is your IPv4 of your pc then?
#468 [22:45] <Kealper> JoshFong: under the "Name" spot (right above the spot you put your IP address in to), type "Minecraft" in to that
#469 [22:45] <JoshFong> I did that
#470 [22:45] <Reclaimer8265> just throw your pc out the window
#471 [22:45] <Kealper> hmm...
#472 [22:45] <Marc_IRL> Guest75111: If it says minecraft isn't one of your games, I'm guessing you're logging in with the wrong email, because it's definitely attached to your mojang account
#473 [22:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Everyone here should do that, reclaimer! :D
#474 [22:45] <Kealper> JoshFong: have you ever heard of TeamViewer?
#475 [22:46] <Reclaimer8265> lol
#476 [22:46] <JoshFong> IP is 192.168.0.194
#477 [22:46] <Marc_IRL> I'll PM you about the email address. Just switch over to the tab with me.
#478 [22:46] <JoshFong> Nope
#479 [22:46] <Wug> JoshFong: thats a local ip
#480 [22:46] <Wug> ;ip JoshFong
#481 [22:46] <WugBot> IP address of JoshFong is: 66.219.151.24
#482 [22:46] <CrusaderDeleters> josh, did you set up a static ip?
#483 [22:46] <Wug> thats your global one
#484 [22:46] <JoshFong> I don't think so.
#485 [22:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Should have.
#486 [22:46] <JoshFong> Alright... how's that done? =P
#487 [22:46] <Guest75111> the migration appeared to work correctly but ive mustve missed a piece...maybe verification
#488 [22:46] <Wug> JoshFong: unless you do, your internal one may change without warning
#489 [22:47] <CrusaderDeleters> portforward.com has a special little program that automatically does it.
#490 [22:47] <Kealper> JoshFong: TeamViewer is a program that would let someone see your computer, and move your mouse if you let them.. would you be ok with me connecting and trying to add the forward myself?
#491 [22:47] <Guest75111> im using the original email account
#492 [22:47] <Lardman> Guest, make sure to talk to Marc in private
#493 [22:47] <CrusaderDeleters> if you don't, your internal ip will keep changing.
#494 [22:47] <JoshFong> Sure
#495 [22:47] <Guest75111> im sorry but what tab
#496 [22:47] <Kealper> JoshFong: ok, we'll take this talk to private messages then, i'll PM you, you should see a message with my name at the top of your chat shortly
#497 [22:48] <Lardman> He should have opened a query with you
#498 [22:48] <lutzee> guest look at above this chat, there should be some tabs
#499 [22:48] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: fu
#500 [22:48] <Reclaimer8265> i really need help
#501 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> ohai nyt
#502 [22:48] <Lardman> Be patient Reclaimer
#503 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll try to help you, reclaim.
#504 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Problem, again?
#505 [22:48] <lutzee> one saying #minecrafthelp the other " Marc IRL"
#506 [22:48] <TheNytangel> We forgot to put in 2 2x2 pin power cords
#507 [22:48] <TheNytangel> So it wasn't working
#508 [22:49] <Reclaimer8265> ok when i try to join a server i get an error saying "internal client error: java.net.unknownhostexception: session.minecraft.net:
#509 [22:49] <CrusaderDeleters> nyt, you are so great. c:
#510 [22:49] <Lardman> Reclaimer, have you restarted minecraft?
#511 [22:49] <TheNytangel> I know
#512 [22:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you using minecraft.net, reclaim?
#513 [22:49] <Reclaimer8265> yes many times
#514 [22:49] <TheNytangel> I'm the best
#515 [22:49] <Reclaimer8265> no
#516 [22:49] <Wug> Reclaimer8265: youre joining a server that doesnt exist
#517 [22:49] <TheNytangel> Wug: fu
#518 [22:49] <Wug> TheNytangel: fu uu uu
#519 [22:49] <Reclaimer8265> im the owner of the server, it exists
#520 [22:49] <TheNytangel> Wug: fu uu uu uu uu uu
#521 [22:49] <Wug> Reclaimer8265: what is the address
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#523 [22:50] <Anarchy> Can anyone tell me on windows 7, why i cant use f3 all of a sudden?
#524 [22:50] <Reclaimer8265> 176.31.214.201
#525 [22:50] <Wug> ;check 176.31.214.201
#526 [22:50] <WugBot> 176.31.214.201:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Server (0/16)
#527 [22:50] <TheNytangel> Your keyboard unplugs a split second before you push F3 and then plugs itself back in
#528 [22:50] <Wug> Reclaimer8265: youre copying and pasting that
#529 [22:51] <Wug> ?
#530 [22:51] <Reclaimer8265> no?
#531 [22:51] <Reclaimer8265> their isnt a port
#532 [22:51] <Reclaimer8265> just 176.31.214.201
#533 [22:51] <CrusaderDeleters> no need for port
#534 [22:51] <lutzee> Reclaimer8265, how are you connecting to the server?
#535 [22:51] <Wug> Reclaimer8265: he wasnt talking to you
#536 [22:51] <Wug> copy and paste that ip address
#537 [22:51] <Wug> nothing else
#538 [22:51] <Wug> make sure you didnt make any typos
#539 [22:51] <Reclaimer8265> direct conect and the saved servers and nothing works
#540 [22:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Wom client, reclaimer?
#541 [22:52] <CrusaderDeleters> no
#542 [22:52] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: its a beta server
#543 [22:52] <Reclaimer8265> when im in the multiplayere screen i can see that the server is up but i cant join
#544 [22:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Beta? Last time I checked, MC was released. C:
#545 [22:52] <Wug> Reclaimer8265: its possible minecraft is having server trouble
#546 [22:52] <Lardman> Its not
#547 [22:52] <Lardman> I just connected
#548 [22:52] <Wug> if the session server is having issues you wont be able to connect
#549 [22:52] <Lardman> then dced
#550 [22:52] <Lardman> wanted to make sure
#551 [22:53] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm still on
#552 [22:53] <Wug> Lardman: issues such as those are frequently geographically localized
#553 [22:53] <lutzee> are we able to check session servers?
#554 [22:53] <lutzee> on here
#555 [22:53] <Wug> often its confined to a single isp or group of isps
#556 [22:53] <Wug> ;dns session.minecraft.net
#557 [22:53] <WugBot> 184.73.166.45
#558 [22:53] <Wug> Reclaimer8265: try connecting to session.minecraft.net from a browser
#559 [22:54] <Wug> or try pinging it
#560 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> wug
#561 [22:54] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters:
#562 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> reclaimer is onine now
#563 [22:54] <Marc_IRL> So, test for everyone here :P User has a minecraft account that they migrated, but when they log into their Mojang account, there's no Minecraft showing. Who knows why? :D
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#565 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Wrong email?
#566 [22:54] <Marc_IRL> That's half of the problem
#567 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> yay, half way there.
#568 [22:55] <CrusaderDeleters> No premium?
#569 [22:55] <Lardman> ^
#570 [22:55] <Wug> heh
#571 [22:55] <Marc_IRL> nope, he was premium
#572 [22:55] <Lardman> mispelled email
#573 [22:55] <Wug> password was wrong too? :D
#574 [22:55] <CrusaderDeleters> so close
#575 [22:55] <Wug> wrong in such a way as to make it right?
#576 [22:55] <Kealper> that wasn't me :o
#577 [22:55] <Wug> in tandem with the wrong email address?
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#579 [22:56] <lutzee> wrong email address, which he hadn't authed the account to be linked via an email being sent
#580 [22:56] <Lardman> They created an account, but did not migrate
#581 [22:56] <Lardman> mojang account
#582 [22:56] <lutzee> due to the fact he didn't realise that he had the wrong email in the first place
#583 [22:56] <Wug> Lardman: he said he migrated it
#584 [22:56] <lutzee> ?
#585 [22:56] <Wug> Marc_IRL: I give up
#586 [22:56] <Marc_IRL> This is a fairly common issue (that I see in support emails, not in general). User had a typo in their original Minecraft email, which didn't matter when they logged in with their username. Account was migrated, typo carried over. User was confused, fiddled around on Mojang.com, created a Mojang account under the correct email address. When they log in with it, there's no profile, because it's still under the typo'd address. Solution is for support to m
#587 [22:57] <Marc_IRL> one they just created
#588 [22:57] <Lardman> I was right!
#589 [22:57] <Lardman> \o/
#590 [22:57] <Guest75111> once again thanks....im glad i found this!!
#591 [22:57] <Lardman> I want a cookie!
#592 [22:57] <Wug> email typos
#593 [22:57] <Marc_IRL> not a problem :-)
#594 [22:58] <CrusaderDeleters> I was right first, lard. c:
#595 [22:58] <lutzee> chrome autofill is great for avoiding that, make sure it's correct there and most things turn out correct
#596 [22:58] <Wug> the most common issues we see here are, in some semblance of order by commonness:
#597 [22:58] <Lardman> Yea, but I said email typo :P
#598 [22:58] <Marc_IRL> Sometimes, we get someone who signed up before Minecraft had error checking in the email field. You get stuff like @hotmail,com
#599 [22:58] <Wug> broken video card drivers, mods causing crashes, and borked java
#600 [22:58] <CrusaderDeleters> lol, a comma.
#601 [22:58] <Wug> most other issues are fairly rare
#602 [22:59] <Marc_IRL> A LOT of issues have been fixed with Mojang accounts, and just in general, in the last few months. Every time I find something, we nail it.
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#604 [22:59] <Wug> Marc_IRL: I remember one time we had a guy with a space in his USERNAME
#605 [22:59] <Marc_IRL> Basically, Tobias, Kris and Leo are my heroes :D
#606 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> I remember when my name was affected to the web developer making names have 13 characters. Mine is 14.
#607 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Luckily I didn't rename myself before ethe fix.
#608 [22:59] <Wug> trollstam is super l33t
#609 [23:00] <lutzee> would an import email from currently logged in account to minecraft.net be safe? i guess not but would solve some issues
#610 [23:00] <JoshFong> !check
#611 [23:00] <Wug> Marc_IRL: he could login but caused all sorts of weird derpery when he logged into servers
#612 [23:00] <Marc_IRL> Huh, that's a strange one
#613 [23:00] <Marc_IRL> I like those. If you can stump me, it usually gets fixed asap.
#614 [23:01] <Wug> his was almost unique
#615 [23:01] <Marc_IRL> Like the guy who had two Minecraft profiles on his Mojang account the other day
#616 [23:01] <Wug> we had exactly 2 with spaces
#617 [23:01] <Marc_IRL> Kris and I have no idea how it happened
#618 [23:01] <Lardman> Marc, Magic
#619 [23:01] <Lardman> Don't question it
#620 [23:01] <Wug> one failure mode that I forgot was having a ! in your windows username
#621 [23:02] <Wug> triggers some obscure java bug that can have symptoms usually ranging from failure to login to random crashes
#622 [23:02] <Scott> Marc_IRL: Could you perhaps poke whoever is developing Minecraft these days to make it actually quit on Command + Q? :D
#623 [23:02] <Scott> I get so irritated that I have to click X :(
#624 [23:02] <Wug> Scott: what about alt f4
#625 [23:02] <Wug> or does that not work on macs
#626 [23:03] <Scott> I don't know
#627 [23:03] <Scott> I use Command + Q lol
#628 [23:04] <Scott> Oh it's actually responding to command + q now.
#629 [23:04] <Scott> I wonder when they fixed it
#630 [23:04] <Lardman> \o/
#631 [23:04] <Eddie> When they woke up
#632 [23:04] <Eddie> j/k
#633 [23:04] <lutzee> Marc_IRL, you might want to get some gaming done before you run out of time :>
#634 [23:08] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, well. There's always the weekend.
#635 [23:09] <Marc_IRL> As soon as I get through the next batch of emails, I'm going back to FFVI.
#636 [23:09] <Wug> Marc_IRL: starcraft 2?
#637 [23:09] <Wug> :DD
#638 [23:09] <Marc_IRL> I can't do multiplayer gaming while I'm travelling. Network won't allow it.
#639 [23:09] <Marc_IRL> I'll be back in the US in July
#640 [23:10] <Wug> do you have it though?
#641 [23:10] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I have it. I played through the single player campaign, and that's about it.
#642 [23:10] <Marc_IRL> I like playing multiplayer only with other people who are awful at it.
#643 [23:11] * lutzee|Zz buys SC2
#643 [23:11] <Marc_IRL> Anyone need anything else before I go?
#644 [23:12] <Wug> Marc_IRL: weve got you covered :)
#645 [23:12] <lutzee|Zz> ^
#646 [23:12] <Marc_IRL> Cool. See you guys later.
#647 [23:13] <lutzee|Zz> bye :)
#648 [23:13] <Kealper> that one was totally my fault
#649 [23:13] <Kealper> but it's ok because i wanted that to happen
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#651 [23:14] <Wug> heh
#652 [23:14] <Kealper> !check 66.219.151.24
#653 [23:14] <Wug> Kealper: whats wrong with him
#654 [23:14] <Kealper> getting warmer!
#655 [23:14] <Kealper> Wug: port forwarding woes
#656 [23:14] <Wug> looks like either a wrong internal ip or forwarded but server not running
#657 [23:15] <Kealper> JoshFong: i do believe it works :o
#658 [23:15] <Kealper> JoshFong: can you post the link to the server so i can try it out?
#659 [23:15] <Kealper> Wug: it's a classic server
#660 [23:15] <Wug> hmm yeah
#661 [23:15] <Wug> that would do it
#662 [23:15] <JoshFong> !check
#663 [23:16] <JoshFong> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play/f196352971cc4331cfce87d27e64a657
#664 [23:17] <JoshFong> *Sigh* thank you!
#665 [23:17] <Kealper> np lol
#666 [23:18] <Reclaimer8265> how do you replace brake pads?
#667 [23:19] <Reclaimer8265> i need to replace the ones on my car and have no clue
#668 [23:19] <Wug> Reclaimer8265: uhh
#669 [23:19] <Wug> I think youre in the wrong channel
#670 [23:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#671 [23:19] <Wug> but I'd assume you take them off and put new ones on
#672 [23:19] <Reclaimer8265> ik
#673 [23:19] <Wug> ive done it once or twice
#674 [23:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Reclaim: Drive your car into a cliff.
#675 [23:19] <Reclaimer8265> but how
#676 [23:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Reclaimer, best way? Buy a new car.
#677 [23:20] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: you must be a mac perso
#678 [23:20] <Wug> n
#679 [23:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope. c:
#680 [23:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Macs are terrible with gaming.
#681 [23:20] <CrusaderDeleters> also, reclaimer, look at the console. I wrote a little something in-game
#682 [23:20] <Wug> <CrusaderDeleters> Reclaimer, best way to change your brakes? Buy a new car.
#683 [23:21] <CrusaderDeleters> :D
#684 [23:21] <Wug> <CrusaderDeleters> Reclaimer, best way to change your hard drive? Buy a new mac.
#685 [23:21] <CrusaderDeleters> :D
#686 [23:21] <CrusaderDeleters> I know. Tough to buy parts for macs. I never used a mac before.
#687 [23:21] <Reclaimer8265> lol
#688 [23:21] <Wug> mac hard drives are exactly the same as every other hard drive
#689 [23:21] <CrusaderDeleters> oh. ._.
#690 [23:21] <Reclaimer8265> but you cant replace it
#691 [23:22] <Scott> Yes you can...
#692 [23:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Cuz it's a mac.
#693 [23:22] <Scott> are you nuts?
#694 [23:22] <Wug> you can, you just need a hammer and a crowbar
#695 [23:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Just bash the window.
#696 [23:22] <Scott> i have a mac and i can change my hard drive very easily
#697 [23:22] <CrusaderDeleters> And buy a new one.
#698 [23:22] <Scott> The warranty isn't voided either
#699 [23:22] <Wug> and a proprietary 5 bladed double ended sonic powered futuristic white screwdriver with a glossy touch screen interface
#700 [23:22] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#701 [23:22] <Reclaimer8265> yeah because all you can do an a mac is use microsoft word
#702 [23:22] <Reclaimer8265> thats it
#703 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Or maybe a shotgun?
#704 [23:23] <Scott> I do actually use Microsoft Word among other things.
#705 [23:23] <Kealper> Reclaimer8265: and play games
#706 [23:23] <Kealper> Reclaimer8265: and make movies and audio...
#707 [23:23] <Kealper> and make images
#708 [23:23] <Wug> guess what language I mostly use at my job
#709 [23:23] <Reclaimer8265> spanish
#710 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Chinese?
#711 [23:23] <Kealper> Wug: Java?
#712 [23:23] <Wug> Reclaimer8265: ill give you a hint
#713 [23:23] <Reclaimer8265> you work at a mexican resturant
#714 [23:23] <Wug> its a programming language
#715 [23:23] <Wug> Kealper: no
#716 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Martian!
#717 [23:23] <Kealper> Objective-C?! D:
#718 [23:23] <Wug> no
#719 [23:23] <Kealper> AppleScript.
#720 [23:24] <Kealper> lol
#721 [23:24] <Wug> i have used java but its not #1
#722 [23:24] <Scott> AppleScript is pretty cool.
#723 [23:24] <Wug> I have also used c#
#724 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug: C--?
#725 [23:24] <Wug> but the winner is...
#726 [23:24] <Wug> vb6 :(
#727 [23:24] <Scott> ew
#728 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> :O
#729 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Ew.
#730 [23:24] <Kealper> D:
#731 [23:24] <Scott> not even vb.net?
#732 [23:24] <Reclaimer8265> well i use microapplescriptPro
#733 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> I know how to code in VB.
#734 [23:24] <Wug> they pay me enough that I dont care
#735 [23:24] <SinZ> Wug: I feel sorry for you.
#736 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> I know vb6, too.
#737 [23:24] <Scott> I was just talking to my aunt about VB
#738 [23:24] <Wug> there is a lot of com stuff
#739 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> bye all, gotta log.
#740 [23:25] <Reclaimer8265> no you dont
#741 [23:25] <SinZ> then again, Im learning one of the VB's next semester
#742 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> One...?
#743 [23:25] <Scott> I was complaining about how some university programs have a VB course and she said when she went to university, they were teaching C++ and everyone used VB instead of it.
#744 [23:25] <Kealper> Wug: com stuff makes me sad, i try to avoid it in AutoIt if i can
#745 [23:25] <SinZ> through the australian education department, so im not learning much
#746 [23:25] <Reclaimer8265> guys learn microapplescriptPro
#747 [23:25] <Reclaimer8265> its the future
#748 [23:25] <Scott> Reclaimer8265 I am going to harm you with my foot.
#749 [23:25] <SinZ> im doing C# and java atm
#750 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> CJavaMicroApple of death?
#751 [23:25] <Wug> TheNytangel's password is rN4eu7Vc2V
#752 [23:25] <Scott> and by foot, I mean fingers typing /kick.
#753 [23:25] <Kealper> Scott: not if i beat your foot to him :o
#754 [23:26] <Reclaimer8265> no!!!
#755 [23:26] <TheNytangel> :)
#756 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug's passwords is jk5EUD%*3f#7d
#757 [23:26] <Kealper> ^
#758 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> he told me before.
#759 [23:26] <Scott> Kealper: do that as i'm leaving byee elol
#760 [23:26] <Wug> the program I'm working on is composed of about 10 languages
#761 [23:26] <Wug> its a giant blob of com components
#762 [23:26] <Kealper> eugh
#763 [23:26] <Wug> with a few .net ones
#764 [23:26] <SinZ> why exactly
#765 [23:26] <Reclaimer8265> mines composed of 11
#766 [23:26] <CrusaderDeleters> no, wug's password is: minecraft.net/login?=meep;password?=nopass
#767 [23:27] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: its actually notreal
#768 [23:27] <SinZ> login.minecraft.net*
#769 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Dang
#770 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Danger.
#771 [23:27] <Reclaimer8265> want to hear an amish joke?
#772 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> bai awl.
#773 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> no computers?
#774 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Actually, here's an amish joke for you:
#775 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> What happens wh-
#776 [23:27] <CrusaderDeleters> *shuts off*
#777 [23:28] <SinZ> !login
#778 [23:28] <Wug> I was going to say
#779 [23:28] <Reclaimer8265> why do amish men grow beards
#780 [23:28] <Kealper> D:<
#781 [23:28] <SinZ> wow, I secretelly wanted the servers down, and they are....
#782 [23:28] <Wug> amish joke
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#784 [23:28] <Moose> AuBot: i love you, join my channel.
#785 [23:28] <Reclaimer8265> because they want to look like their moms
#786 [23:28] * Wug has quit (Ping timeout: 382 seconds)
#786 [23:29] <jamy> i cant login to My client
#787 [23:29] <Kealper> jamy: funny you should mention that
#788 [23:29] <jamy> hmm
#789 [23:29] <Kealper> jamy: it seems the login servers might actually be having problems right now... let me confirm if they are or not
#790 [23:29] <Moose> !login
#791 [23:30] <Kealper> jamy: try logging in again? they seem to be working again
#792 [23:30] <jamy> ok
#793 [23:30] <jamy> 1 sec
#794 [23:30] <jamy> ahh yes, thanks for your help
#795 [23:31] <Kealper> glad to be of assistance, even if i didn't actually do anything :D
#796 [23:31] <TheNytangel> Kealper: never forget the 2 2x2 pins...
#797 [23:32] <Wug> mine had only one
#798 [23:32] <Wug> nonetheless they are mucho importanto
#799 [23:32] <TheNytangel> Obviously
#800 [23:32] <TheNytangel> The computer doesn't beep, and you can't tap to shut down. Or.. hold to shut down
#801 [23:35] * Kealper is back
#801 [23:35] <Kealper> 2 2x2 pins wat
#802 [23:38] <Wug> TheNytangel: http://www.speedtest.net/android/196788803.png
#803 [23:38] <Kealper> wow...
#804 [23:39] <Wug> Kealper: the cell towers in my area are on crack
#805 [23:39] <Wug> they either dont work at all or about that fact
#806 [23:39] <Wug> fast*
#807 [23:39] <Kealper> and not the good kind, apparently lol
#808 [23:39] * Kealper does a test from http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed on his phone's 3g
#808 [23:39] <Wug> without physically moving at all, my signal strength will range wildly between full bars with 3g and total lack of service
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#810 [23:41] <Kealper> Wug: do the same with the 100k file size
#811 [23:41] <Wug> it would take like 15 minutes
#812 [23:42] <Kealper> ok... my result... 1067ms latency, and 190kbit/s
#813 [23:42] <Wug> and I'd lose the signal half way through and it wouldnt finish
#814 [23:42] <Kealper> ._.
#815 [23:42] <Kealper> with the 5k one then? rofl
#816 [23:43] <Wug> Kealper: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2011451267.png
#817 [23:43] <Wug> fah yos
#818 [23:44] <Kealper> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2011452473.png
#819 [23:45] <Kealper> cah bul
#820 [23:45] <Wug> not bad
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#822 [23:45] <Wug> comcast though
#823 [23:45] <Wug> enjoy your throttling
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#825 [23:46] <Kealper> yeah, that's a downside of their internet... it's decent speeds and stable as hell for not too bad of prices but it has it's drawbacks
#826 [23:46] <Kealper> like 150gb/month bandwidth caps
#827 [23:46] <Kealper> 250*
#828 [23:52] <zkxs> is shopping.hp.com down for everyone, or just me?
#829 [23:52] <Kealper> Service Unavailable - DNS failure
#830 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> !isup shopping.hp.com
#831 [23:52] <Kealper> are you getting that?
#832 [23:52] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://shopping.hp.com looks down from here.
#833 [23:52] <zkxs> Good, it isn't my fault :D
#834 [23:53] <zkxs> Kealper: Yes, that is exactly what I'm getting