#1 [00:00] <Lardman> Disk, the password change went flawlessly
#2 [00:00] <Lardman> apparently
#3 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> I changed my own password on the web site three times over then, so the node of the web site that's servicing me is good
#4 [00:00] <tjohns112> I have a "world" folder but it's not in a "saves" folder, there is no folder named "saves"
#5 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> It went flawlessly, but still the person had constant fail. Hmm.
#6 [00:01] <Lardman> tjohns112: you are trying to move a world from singleplayer correct?
#7 [00:02] <tjohns112> yes i just purchased a second copy for my wife and i'm trying to host a server we can both play on but i would like to use one of my single player maps i've already made progress in if that's possible
#8 [00:02] <Lardman> okay, go to .minecraft
#9 [00:02] <Lardman> to find that, go to run and type in .minecraft
#10 [00:03] <Lardman> there will be a saves folder in there. Take the world folder from there and put it in the server folder.
#11 [00:03] <tjohns112> "windows could not find .minecraft..."
#12 [00:03] <DiskDaemon> ??> tjohns112 win/.minecraft
#13 [00:03] <VoxelHead> tjohns112: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#14 [00:03] <Lardman> Sorry, %appdata% >_>
#15 [00:04] <tjohns112> ok got it
#16 [00:04] <tjohns112> now where do i drag it?
#17 [00:04] <Lardman> into the same folder as the server
#18 [00:05] <tjohns112> the server.exe is just in my downloads folder...
#19 [00:05] <Lardman> make a folder just for the server
#20 [00:05] <Lardman> and put both the server and the world in there.
#21 [00:06] <tjohns112> ok done, does it have to me named "world" for it to work?
#22 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> Lardman: If he copies the saves folder over, won't that saves folder contain a separate folder inside for the world? Shouldn't just that folder inside of the saves folder be copied over?
#23 [00:06] <Lardman> no, it converts it DiskDaemon
#24 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> oh that's nice
#25 [00:06] <Lardman> tjohns112: renaming is the easiest option.
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#27 [00:07] <tjohns112> ok i have created a new folder, and inside it i put the Minecraft_Server.exe and the "world" save folder, i'm going to give it a try now...
#28 [00:08] <Lardman> okay. Goodluck! :D
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#31 [00:09] <tjohns112> ok for some reason when i double click the minecraft_server.exe and click "run" on the prompt that pops up... nothing happens
#32 [00:10] <Lardman> odd...
#33 [00:10] <Lardman> oh
#34 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> There might be another one already going that died earlier. You can check the task list for that
#35 [00:10] <Lardman> ^
#36 [00:10] <tjohns112> there are a bunch of other files in my "downloads" folder like server.properties, server (text document), banned-ips, banned-players, etc, were they supposed to go in the new folder as well?
#37 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> those can go over too, yes
#38 [00:11] <tjohns112> what is the task labeled as?
#39 [00:11] <Lardman> it should have created new ones as well.
#40 [00:11] <Lardman> and it should be a java task
#41 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> right-click on the task bar and choose Start Task Manager, then in the Processes tab look for javaw.exe and kill any that are there
#42 [00:12] <tjohns112> no javaw.exe is running...
#43 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> Good one - what happens now when you start the server?
#44 [00:13] <tjohns112> nothing, i double click the icon for minecraft_server, it pops up a promt asking if i am sure i want to run it, i click run, and nothing happens
#45 [00:14] <Lardman> rename the world that you moved to anything else
#46 [00:14] <Lardman> then start it.
#47 [00:14] <tjohns112> nope, still not starting
#48 [00:14] <tjohns112> should i try restarting my PC?
#49 [00:14] <Lardman> Literally nothing happens?
#50 [00:14] <Lardman> download a new server.exe
#51 [00:15] <tjohns112> ok
#52 [00:15] <Lardman> and delete the old one.
#53 [00:20] <tjohns112> huh, yea nothing happens still
#54 [00:20] <Lardman> what >_>
#55 [00:21] <tjohns112> deleted the old one, re-downloaded it from minecraft.net and moved it into the new folder, double clicked it, clicked "run" and nothing...
#56 [00:21] <Lardman> drag it to the desktop and run it.
#57 [00:21] <tjohns112> ok!
#58 [00:21] <tjohns112> it popped up the console window after i moved it to the desktop and double clicked it
#59 [00:21] <Lardman> SO it works on the desktop?
#60 [00:22] <Lardman> but not in the folder
#61 [00:22] <tjohns112> and a whole shit ton of new folders created themselves on the desktop
#62 [00:22] <tjohns112> yeah
#63 [00:22] <tjohns112> apparently
#64 [00:22] <Lardman> Make a folder on the desktop and then run it.
#65 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> It may not have permission to make write changes to the folder that it was in
#66 [00:22] <Lardman> and put it on the folder.
#67 [00:22] <Lardman> do the same as before, but make the folder on the desktop.
#68 [00:22] <tjohns112> should I move all the folders it created on the desktop into the new folder as well?
#69 [00:23] <Lardman> you can
#70 [00:24] <tjohns112> ok it popped up the console, lets see if I can connect
#71 [00:26] <Lardman> you will need to use your external ip for your wife to connect.
#72 [00:26] <tjohns112> how do i do that?
#73 [00:26] <Lardman> whatismyip.com
#74 [00:26] <Lardman> have her use that ip to connect
#75 [00:26] <Lardman> you can use that as well.
#76 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> tjohns112: Your wife is connecting from on the same local network, right?
#77 [00:27] <tjohns112> ok so just typing in the IP address when it asks for server address will connect?
#78 [00:27] <Lardman> yes
#79 [00:27] <tjohns112> yes we are both on the same router
#80 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> Lardman: Would it be preferred for his wife to connect using a local IP instead of an external that may require port forwarding too?
#81 [00:28] <Lardman> yea, a local ip may work as well.
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#83 [00:28] <Lardman> will*
#84 [00:29] <tjohns112> so i typed in my IP in the server address box and tried connecting but it said it failed to connect, connection timed out
#85 [00:30] <tjohns112> but that's me trying to connect to it from the same computer i'm hosting the server on...
#86 [00:30] <Lardman> type in the ip found on the website I gave you.
#87 [00:30] <Lardman> also
#88 [00:30] <tjohns112> yes that's what i did
#89 [00:31] <DiskDaemon> tjohns112: Which IP address are you typing in?
#90 [00:31] <Lardman> okay, open command prompt. and type in ip config.
#91 [00:31] <Lardman> ipconfig*
#92 [00:32] <Lardman> look for the IPv4 ip
#93 [00:32] <Lardman> use that
#94 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> The local IP you are looking for normally starts with 192.168.n.n
#95 [00:33] <tjohns112> when i typed in ipconfig a window popped up and then disappeared very quickly
#96 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> tjohns112: DO it from the command prompt
#97 [00:35] <tjohns112> ok that got me in!
#98 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> What is the IPv4 Address that ipconfig shows you?
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#100 [00:37] <Lardman> Now see if your wife can connect
#101 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> The whatismyip.com website shows you your external IP, but before you can use that with the server you would need to use port forwarding to direct traffic to your server. So instead of that, we are looking for the internal IP of your server, which is the IPv4 Address from ipconfig
#102 [00:37] <Lardman> an example of an IPv4 would be 98.155.42.239
#103 [00:38] <Lardman> that is what you are using correct?
#104 [00:39] <zkxs> As long as they are connected to the same router, a LAN IP will work fine
#105 [00:39] <Lardman> ^
#106 [00:40] <tjohns112> ok yea it works and we are both connected to the same game!
#107 [00:40] <tjohns112> thanks guys!
#108 [00:40] <Lardman> \o/
#109 [00:40] <zkxs> In fact, it would probably be faster, due to not having to go through the ISP
#110 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> nice one
#111 [00:40] <tjohns112> just a couple more questions though
#112 [00:40] <Lardman> now to get the world transferred
#113 [00:40] <tjohns112> yea
#114 [00:40] <Lardman> just do what I told you originally
#115 [00:40] <Lardman> That should work.
#116 [00:40] <Lardman> just drop it in and rename it.
#117 [00:41] <tjohns112> ok, but i also noticed that when we both connected there were monsters? but the map that was already started was on peaceful mode
#118 [00:42] <zkxs> The server has its own settings which are completely separate from single player
#119 [00:43] <zkxs> you will want to edit server.properties and then restart the server
#120 [00:43] <Lardman> spawn-monsters = false
#121 [00:47] <tjohns112> works great now. thanks for the help. gonna go play.
#122 [00:48] <Lardman> have fun!
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#125 [00:50] <tjohns112_> back again
#126 [00:50] <tjohns112_> one problem- blocks are instantly respawning when destroyed
#127 [00:50] <Lardman> hello!
#128 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> Would that be a server permissions issue?
#129 [00:51] <Lardman> oh that has to do with a setting. Go in server.properties and change spawn-protection = 0
#130 [00:51] <Lardman> Damn he left.
#131 [00:51] <tjohns112_> nope, still here
#132 [00:51] <Lardman> O.o
#133 [00:53] <tjohns112_> there is no variable for spawn-protection
#134 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> Lardman: Is that a bukkit setting?
#135 [00:53] <Lardman> no
#136 [00:53] <tjohns112_> there is only spawn-npcs=true, spawn-animals=true, and spawn-monsters which was true but i changed to false
#137 [00:54] <Lardman> tjohns112_ type in console op (username)
#138 [00:54] <tjohns112_> in the server properties file?
#139 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, the 33x33 block at the center of the map is protected - only ops can do things there
#140 [00:54] <zkxs> just op yourselves, it'll be quicker
#141 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#142 [00:55] <Lardman> ^
#143 [00:55] <tjohns112_> ok... so in server properties i start a new line that says "console op tjohns112" right?
#144 [00:55] <zkxs> GAH no
#145 [00:55] <Lardman> no
#146 [00:55] <tjohns112_> ok...
#147 [00:55] <Lardman> in the console
#148 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> not in the server.properties file, but in the server console
#149 [00:55] <tjohns112_> ok how do i bring up the server console...
#150 [00:56] <zkxs> It is the thing that pops up when you run the server
#151 [00:56] <DiskDaemon> That's the Minecraft Server, it has a coffee cup logo in the task bar
#152 [00:56] <tjohns112_> ok gotcha
#153 [00:56] <tjohns112_> what do i type in again?
#154 [00:56] <zkxs> 'op yourusername'
#155 [00:57] <DiskDaemon> You should see it say [INFO] CONSOLE: Opping tjohns112
#156 [00:57] <tjohns112_> "op tjohns112" without the quotes, right? just like that?
#157 [00:57] <Lardman> yes
#158 [00:57] <tjohns112_> do we have to be connected to the server already for that to work or can it be done before we connect?
#159 [00:57] <zkxs> yep. Don't be afraid to experiment, it won't break anything (beyond repair) and it is the best way to learn :)
#160 [00:57] <DiskDaemon> either
#161 [00:57] <Lardman> it can be done at any time.
#162 [00:59] <zkxs> You'll want to add you wife too, or she won't be able to build near the spawn.
#163 [00:59] <tjohns112_> ok both added and it works!
#164 [00:59] <tjohns112_> thanks again guys
#165 [00:59] <tjohns112_> you guys rock
#166 [00:59] <tjohns112_> my wife says she wants to bake you cookies
#167 [01:00] <zkxs> She can email them to us :P
#168 [01:00] <Lardman> \o/
#169 [01:00] <DiskDaemon> That sounds delightful - thanks
#170 [01:00] * Lardman noms on the cookies
#170 [01:00] <tjohns112_> wifey here- seriously, you guys are amazing. thank you!
#171 [01:00] <DiskDaemon> Does the Opping need to be done whenever the server is started?
#172 [01:02] <Lardman> do not believe so.
#173 [01:02] <zkxs> It is saved to ops.txt
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#175 [01:03] <DiskDaemon> Nice one. tjohns112_: You're all set to go
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#179 [01:13] <Gunslinger2> *grumbles* how do smooth out water, i have piles, literal piles, of water on my world, i made a few mistakes and cant //undo with world edit
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#181 [01:14] <Spirited> anyone on?
#182 [01:14] <Spirited> after some extensive testing
#183 [01:15] <Spirited> it seems like my graphics driver is unable to handle OpenGL
#184 [01:15] <Spirited> which minecraft apparently uses
#185 [01:15] <Spirited> Nvidia GeForce 9400 GT
#186 [01:19] * Wug whacks Spirited
#186 [01:19] <Wug> you need an updated driver
#187 [01:20] <Spirited> yeah about that
#188 [01:20] <Spirited> 301.XX
#189 [01:20] <Spirited> doesnt help
#190 [01:20] <Spirited> it crashes more actually
#191 [01:20] <Spirited> im considering rolling back my drivers
#192 [01:20] <Spirited> and here was the question i originally intended
#193 [01:20] <Spirited> which driver?
#194 [01:20] <Wug> crashes as in graphics work?
#195 [01:20] <Spirited> yes
#196 [01:20] <Wug> but something else crashes it?
#197 [01:20] <Spirited> definitely graphics card
#198 [01:20] <Wug> then its not the driver
#199 [01:20] <Wug> is it overheating
#200 [01:20] <Spirited> it's the infamous (?)
#201 [01:21] <Wug> uhh.
#202 [01:21] <Spirited> OpenGl error
#203 [01:21] <Spirited> Error Code 8
#204 [01:21] <Wug> pixel format whatnot?
#205 [01:21] <Spirited> something about OpenGL unable to respond, etc
#206 [01:21] <Wug> that might indicate you have a bad card
#207 [01:21] <Wug> or a dying card.
#208 [01:21] <Wug> I have one of the same generation and it plays minecraft fine
#209 [01:21] <Spirited> microsoft self-imposed timeout TDR delay can't handle the graphics
#210 [01:21] <Wug> are you getting your drivers from windows update
#211 [01:22] <Spirited> i upped the TDRdelay to ~10 seconds for "more rendering time" (default set at 2 seconds)
#212 [01:22] <Spirited> no go, it just crashes after 10 seconds instead of 2
#213 [01:22] <Spirited> hell no
#214 [01:22] <Spirited> windows update can go screw itself
#215 [01:22] <Wug> what os are you on
#216 [01:22] <Spirited> Vista, 32-bit
#217 [01:22] <Spirited> home premium
#218 [01:22] <Wug> how much ram do you have
#219 [01:22] <Spirited> 2GB
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#221 [01:22] <Spirited> that might be a problem
#222 [01:22] <Spirited> except i litearlly close all other programs
#223 [01:22] <Spirited> including explorer.exe
#224 [01:22] <Wug> vista likes to hog ram by itself
#225 [01:23] <Spirited> it does indeed
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#227 [01:23] <Spirited> but if minecraft wants 1GB
#228 [01:23] <Spirited> minecraft's GETTING 1GB
#229 [01:23] <Wug> post a screenshot of the error you get. I still dont recognize it
#230 [01:23] <Spirited> vista's using around 500MB
#231 [01:23] <Spirited> okay
#232 [01:23] <Spirited> eh
#233 [01:23] <Spirited> not gonna bother closing windows explorer this tiem
#234 [01:23] <Wug> its probably not worth it anyway
#235 [01:24] <Wug> it only uses like 50 or 60M usually
#236 [01:24] <Wug> you can increase your swapfile size so you dont have to close things. theyll just get swapped out
#237 [01:24] <zkxs> I remember killing explorer on my old laptop, on account of the disk usage and ancient hard disk
#238 [01:24] <Wug> assuming of course that your swap isnt already big enough
#239 [01:24] <Wug> swapfile == pagefile on windows
#240 [01:25] <Spirited> http://i.imgur.com/F2mnE.jpg
#241 [01:25] <Omega_Guardian> is super derp when a random program just refuses to run properly just cause swapfile is disabled, even if you have lik 8 gigabytes free
#242 [01:25] <Spirited> okay, here's other things
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#244 [01:25] <epicminiman_on_iPhone> Sup
#245 [01:25] <Wug> lol ive never seen that before
#246 [01:25] <Spirited> it used to crash pretty much immediately in
#247 [01:25] <Spirited> but after tweaking a bit i'm able to get the MOJANG logo
#248 [01:25] <Spirited> then it crashes
#249 [01:26] <Spirited> furthermore
#250 [01:26] <Wug> is this immediately after logging in or .. ok
#251 [01:26] <Spirited> after clicking on "okay"
#252 [01:26] <Spirited> ANOTHER one pops up
#253 [01:26] <Spirited> exact same message
#254 [01:26] <Spirited> closing THAT one also closes the Minecraft window
#255 [01:26] <Wug> only thing I can think of is to try a clean driver install
#256 [01:26] <Spirited> there's been something about
#257 [01:26] <Spirited> been there
#258 [01:26] <Spirited> done that
#259 [01:26] <Spirited> with 3-4 different versions
#260 [01:26] <Wug> you havent tried reinstalling windows have you
#261 [01:26] <Spirited> ranging from newest (301.XX)
#262 [01:27] <Wug> not that I recommend it
#263 [01:27] <Spirited> oh god
#264 [01:27] <Wug> but it would probably fix it
#265 [01:27] <Spirited> i am NOT going to do that again
#266 [01:27] <epicminiman_on_iPhone> Update java?
#267 [01:27] <Spirited> i did that half a year ago to wipe
#268 [01:27] <Wug> you could try ubuntu
#269 [01:27] <Spirited> errr things
#270 [01:27] <Spirited> from my hard drives
#271 [01:27] <Wug> is your windows version legit
#272 [01:27] <zkxs> unless it is a fried card... but if it is fried, it'll work under linux
#273 [01:27] <Spirited> yes
#274 [01:27] <Spirited> factory loaded
#275 [01:27] <Wug> we see weird errors with illegit windows installs sometimes
#276 [01:27] <Spirited> zkxs: define fried card
#277 [01:27] <Spirited> "[01:26] <Spirited> there's been something about"
#278 [01:28] <Spirited> as i was saying
#279 [01:28] <Spirited> some forumites on nvidia forums
#280 [01:28] <zkxs> Fried Card: (n) If the problem isn't software, but broken hardware
#281 [01:28] <Spirited> suggested that i go to Global 3D settings and change the adaptive power management to prefer performance
#282 [01:28] <Spirited> problem being i can't even SEE anything resembling "adaptive power management"
#283 [01:29] <Omega_Guardian> Starcraft 2 had some ludicrously serious bug that if is accurate, peeps expensive video cards where frying themselves. Thats serious driver bug to be even possible
#284 [01:29] <zkxs> Spirited: If I were you, I'd take wug's advice and try an Ubuntu live CD. If it doesn't work there, your card is physically broken.
#285 [01:29] <Spirited> zkxs: then chances are, i wouldn't be able to talk to you right now
#286 [01:29] <Spirited> hmm
#287 [01:29] <Wug> see also try disabling cuda
#288 [01:29] <Spirited> yes
#289 [01:29] <Spirited> i did that too
#290 [01:29] <Spirited> globally disabled CUDA
#291 [01:30] <Spirited> i have a Trinity Rescue Kit
#292 [01:30] <Spirited> closest thing resembling ubuntu live CD
#293 [01:30] <Spirited> i guess sometime next week i can get myself a CD and try it
#294 [01:30] <Spirited> wait
#295 [01:30] <Spirited> live CD?
#296 [01:30] <zkxs> Not necessarily, some hardware problems, like bad bytes of ram, don't crash instantly but mess things up in the long run
#297 [01:30] <Spirited> putting an OS on a disk, THEN installing minecraft
#298 [01:31] <Spirited> lets hope it doesnt kill my ram
#299 [01:31] <Wug> Spirited: appears its a vista specific problem
#300 [01:31] <zkxs> live CD == you don't have to overwrite windows
#301 [01:31] <Spirited> Wug: oho?
#302 [01:31] <Wug> ubuntu doesnt need anywhere near as much ram as vista does
#303 [01:31] <Spirited> ^^
#304 [01:31] <Wug> maybe like 1/4
#305 [01:31] <Wug> it will fit in ram along with minecraft just fine
#306 [01:31] <Spirited> [Any operating system besides W7] doesnt need anywhere near as much ram as vista does
#307 [01:31] <Wug> youll have to avoid making a gigantic world though
#308 [01:31] <Spirited> W7 uses slightly less
#309 [01:31] <Wug> and 7 takes like 1/2
#310 [01:31] <Omega_Guardian> Needs more flair
#311 [01:32] <Spirited> why vista suck so much
#312 [01:32] <Wug> you can run 7 on 512MB of ram
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#314 [01:32] <Wug> idk if youve ever seen vista do that
#315 [01:32] <Wug> but I have
#316 [01:32] <Wug> and it aint pretty
#317 [01:32] <Spirited> i did a virtual machine thing for vista once
#318 [01:32] <Wug> it tries to swap all the things
#319 [01:32] <zkxs> :mclol
#320 [01:32] <Spirited> gave it 384MB ram
#321 [01:32] <Spirited> epic fail
#322 [01:32] <Wug> zkxs: wugbot is not here
#323 [01:32] <zkxs> oh, dead wugbot :(
#324 [01:33] <Wug> Spirited: mclol is a screencap of me running minecraft over vnc on my ubuntu box with 384MB ram total
#325 [01:33] <Spirited> happen to have direct link?
#326 [01:33] <zkxs> Is the whole server down? I can't reach wug.me
#327 [01:33] <Wug> zkxs: I need to update the a record
#328 [01:33] <Spirited> randomish question
#329 [01:33] <Wug> and before I bother to do that I need to forward ports
#330 [01:34] <Spirited> is this place even the (un)official support for MC?
#331 [01:34] <Wug> and by I need to I mean I need to ask my landlord to
#332 [01:34] <Spirited> i went on #minecraft at Qakenet
#333 [01:34] <Spirited> it was like "come here"
#334 [01:34] <Spirited> so here i am
#335 [01:34] <Wug> yeah, were pretty much official
#336 [01:34] * Wug points at MoJad
#336 [01:34] <Wug> mollstam *
#337 [01:34] <Spirited> lol
#338 [01:34] <Wug> mark_irl is here sometimes too
#339 [01:34] <ShaRose> and of course every single mojang employee who uses irc
#340 [01:34] <zkxs> This was the support before Mojang got their actual commercial support
#341 [01:35] <ShaRose> aka bukkit
#342 [01:35] <Wug> jebs been here once or twice. xlson is here too sometimes
#343 [01:35] <Wug> notch is a channel founder
#344 [01:35] <Lardman> Marc will probably only be on during the week.
#345 [01:35] <Wug> Lardman: makes sense
#346 [01:35] <Lardman> ;)
#347 [01:35] <Wug> zkxs: im connected from the address that wug.me will be linked to
#348 [01:35] <Spirited> and wug, who are you?
#349 [01:35] <Spirited> not tyring to be rude
#350 [01:36] <Spirited> you've been quite helpful
#351 [01:36] <Wug> I have it /etc/host'd to 192.168.1.100
#352 [01:36] <Wug> 199*
#353 [01:36] <Wug> Spirited: I'm just a wug
#354 [01:36] <Spirited> heh
#355 [01:36] <Wug> I've done some neat stuff
#356 [01:36] <Wug> but im just a community member
#357 [01:36] <Spirited> heh
#358 [01:36] <Spirited> like TGM for Ace of Spades I guess
#359 [01:37] <Spirited> yeah at this rate
#360 [01:37] <Wug> I have no idea who that is :)
#361 [01:37] <Wug> anyway
#362 [01:37] <Spirited> im going to have to play ace of spades almost exclusively
#363 [01:37] <zkxs> w/out port forwarding I can't get to mclol anyways, which was my goal
#364 [01:37] <Spirited> :/
#365 [01:37] <Spirited> soundslike it would be interesting
#366 [01:37] <Wug> you really might try that livecd
#367 [01:37] <Spirited> im going to get my drivers to 275.50 which soem people swear works
#368 [01:37] <Spirited> *275.33
#369 [01:38] <zkxs> Spirited: Also, if you don't like CDs you could make a liveUSB instead
#370 [01:38] <Spirited> comp cant boot live USBs
#371 [01:38] <Wug> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
#372 [01:38] <Spirited> i've done liveCD's before
#373 [01:38] <Spirited> i have one on my desktop infact
#374 [01:38] <Spirited> though it's quite old
#375 [01:38] <Wug> using torrents for legitimate purposes makes the internet gods happy
#376 [01:38] <Spirited> oh god
#377 [01:38] <Spirited> 10.04
#378 [01:38] <Spirited> why do i even still have that
#379 [01:39] <zkxs> err, that is the LTS so it is still good
#380 [01:39] <Spirited> LTS?
#381 [01:39] <zkxs> long term support
#382 [01:39] <Spirited> lol
#383 [01:39] <Spirited> k
#384 [01:39] <zkxs> I'm running 10.04.3 right now, actually
#385 [01:40] <Spirited> clean installing 275.33, pretty much jumped back every WHQL certified driver update
#386 [01:40] <Spirited> to here
#387 [01:40] <Spirited> if this doesnt work
#388 [01:40] <Spirited> ubuntu time
#389 [01:40] <Spirited> if that doesnt work, new graphics card
#390 [01:40] <Spirited> if that does work, what the hell nvidia.
#391 [01:41] <Spirited> oh forgot to ask
#392 [01:41] <Spirited> how long does the average GeForce card last
#393 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> I've still got my 8800GTS from 4-5 years back
#394 [01:42] <Wug> mine is like 3 years old and performs as it did the day I bought it
#395 [01:42] <Wug> from my experience, death of video cards to anything other than overheating incidents is fairly rare
#396 [01:42] <Wug> theyre not like hard drives, which have a life expectancy of like 4 years
#397 [01:43] <Gunslinger2> unless your over clock them
#398 [01:43] <Wug> Gunslinger2: indirectly, thats usually an overheating issue
#399 [01:43] <GreyVulpine> Still falls under overheating
#400 [01:43] <Wug> Spirited: you might have issues with ubuntu because the drivers on the cd are probably out of date
#401 [01:44] <zkxs> So they'll be out of date before they die, in most circumstances
#402 [01:44] <Wug> since youll be using a ram filesystem with not very much ram you might have trouble there
#403 [01:44] <Wug> I think they use squashfs though
#404 [01:44] <Wug> well so much for that
#405 [01:45] <zkxs> oh, that is working now
#406 [01:46] <zkxs> I have no idea why, but I'm not going to complain
#407 [01:47] <zkxs> well, speaking of the internet being asleep...
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#409 [01:56] <Wug> GreyVulpine: when zkxs gets back, remind him that quit messages are filtered if youve been connected for less than 5 minutes as an antispamming method
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#421 [03:52] <shadow_knight> Hi
#422 [03:52] <Lardman> Hello
#423 [03:52] <shadow_knight> Just poppin in to see if anyone needed help
#424 [04:03] <Boreeas> …
#425 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> Oh, Icould've got him to help me with getting a server going on the laptop - maybe next time
#426 [04:05] <Boreeas> 1 b3ŧ |-|3 ı$ 4 2ŧ4|_|_y |_33ŧ |-|3|_p3r
#427 [04:05] <Lardman> Whats wrong Disk?
#428 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> Only something to help people lose their sanity - attempting to run minecraft server on this windows 8 pre-release laptop
#429 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> I'll forward the port if you'd like to see what can be done about this
#430 [04:07] <Lardman> Windows 8?
#431 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> yep
#432 [04:07] * Lardman takes the laptop and throws it out the window
#432 [04:07] * Lardman burns it
#432 [04:07] <Lardman> Solved your problem....
#433 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> Just wait until other people come here with windows 8 problems - experience now might be a boon
#434 [04:09] * Lardman prepares the Molotov cocktails
#434 [04:09] <Lardman> Okay, I am ready.
#435 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> Well a direct connection between client and server on the laptop works
#436 [04:10] <Wug> fort porwarding
#437 [04:10] <Lardman> Lol
#438 [04:10] <Lardman> I hate helping people with port forwarding issues :/
#439 [04:11] <Lardman> So mnay problems....
#440 [04:11] <Lardman> many*
#441 [04:11] <Lardman> I stick to clients and accounts >_>
#442 [04:11] <Lardman> and bukkit I guess.
#443 [04:11] <Wug> my general stance if I'll do half of the work with pf
#444 [04:12] <Lardman> lol
#445 [04:12] <Wug> if you cant figure out the other half then its not safe for you to have ports open anyway
#446 [04:12] <Lardman> ^
#447 [04:12] <Wug> wugbot now loads modules dynamicall
#448 [04:12] <Wug> y
#449 [04:12] <Wug> take that Kealper
#450 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> It works perfectly fine on the desktop (win 7) but on the laptop (win 8) it doesn't work unless the firewall is completely down.
#451 [04:12] <Wug> I just have to twiddle with them a bit add a bunch of entries to the makefile so they update automatically
#452 [04:12] <Lardman> THe windows 8 firewall probably sucks
#453 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> I need to learn more about how to effectively control the win 8 firewall to allow minecraft server comms
#454 [04:13] <Wug> see also make is being retarded
#455 [04:13] <Lardman> Can you not create an exception in windows 8?
#456 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Tried doing that, it doesn't seem to be effective
#457 [04:13] <Wug> you can have a variable in a dependancy, but you cant assign to it
#458 [04:13] <Lardman> O.o
#459 [04:13] <Wug> noapnoapnoap
#460 [04:14] * Lardman grabs a gun and heads over to Mircosoft headquarters
#460 [04:14] <Lardman> back in a few.
#461 [04:14] <Lardman> >_>
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#465 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> well PFPortChecker is showing both TCP and UDP for 25565 to be open, which is a good mid-stage confirmation of things
#466 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> Now to add ingoing and outgoing rules to the firewall, and open everything relating to 25565 up as far as they can stretch without breaking
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#471 [04:43] <I_AM_GOD> I HAVE A QUESTION!
#472 [04:43] <Necrodoom> ask
#473 [04:43] <I_AM_GOD> you wont make fun of me because it sounds stupid, will u?
#474 [04:44] <Necrodoom> just asl/
#475 [04:44] <Necrodoom> ask*
#476 [04:44] <rymate1234> ^
#477 [04:44] <I_AM_GOD> M'kay, here I go.
#478 [04:44] <I_AM_GOD> Minecraft wont run on Linux
#479 [04:45] <I_AM_GOD> how do I get it to work?
#480 [04:45] <rymate1234> Installing Java might help
#481 [04:45] <Necrodoom> you are using the jar version right?
#482 [04:45] <rymate1234> ;)
#483 [04:46] <I_AM_GOD> yeah, i think so. i just installed sunJava and it works and then when i enter my login it shows a clowns face then exits
#484 [04:46] <rymate1234> Wat
#485 [04:46] <Necrodoom> clowns face?
#486 [04:47] <I_AM_GOD> or sorry, his head
#487 [04:47] <I_AM_GOD> idk, is it part of the game?
#488 [04:47] <Necrodoom> you mean http://www.google.co.il/imgres?imgurl=http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/4/43839/1719812-mojang_ab_logo.png&imgrefurl=http://www.giantbomb.com/mojang-ab/65-7279/all-images/52-479934/mojang_ab_logo/51-1719812/&h=87&w=87&sz=3&tbnid=t7q-z4V75rFrvM:&tbnh=77&tbnw=77&zoom=1&usg=__o1tbFMhKQ77i6Zh-gTuja1g-vwI=&docid=ls4yfgREdVPUpM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AOveT9C4Cofdsgaost2bDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CF0Q9QEwAw&dur=322
#489 [04:47] <Necrodoom> if its an actual clown face, you are not using www.minecraft.net
#490 [04:47] <I_AM_GOD> no. a creepy clown smiling and it makes a laughing sound
#491 [04:47] <Necrodoom> thus probably just gave your account away
#492 [04:48] <Necrodoom> to hackers
#493 [04:48] <I_AM_GOD> are you sure?
#494 [04:48] <I_AM_GOD> maybe it was just a bug
#495 [04:48] <Necrodoom> where did you download client from?
#496 [04:48] <I_AM_GOD> minecraft-download.net, but the site went down for maitence after i bought the game from the guy.
#497 [04:49] <I_AM_GOD> is that not the creator of the game?
#498 [04:49] <rymate1234> No
#499 [04:49] <I_AM_GOD> r u serious?
#500 [04:49] <rymate1234> Yes
#501 [04:49] <I_AM_GOD> what do I do to fix it?
#502 [04:49] <I_AM_GOD> i paid 30 for this game!
#503 [04:49] <Necrodoom> minecraft-download.net is a fake site.
#504 [04:50] <Necrodoom> you lost your account, probably
#505 [04:50] <I_AM_GOD> can i hack the hacker back?
#506 [04:50] <Necrodoom> no.
#507 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> no, you protect yourself from further damange
#508 [04:50] <I_AM_GOD> can u hack the hacker back?
#509 [04:50] <I_AM_GOD> how do I do that?
#510 [04:50] <Necrodoom> get an antivirus and clean up your computer
#511 [04:51] <I_AM_GOD> why do I need to clean my computer?
#512 [04:51] <I_AM_GOD> hes still here, isnt he?
#513 [04:51] <Necrodoom> I_AM_GOD: theres a possibility the hacked client had put viruses in the computer
#514 [04:51] <I_AM_GOD> i think i should get my mum to call the police, this is serious
#515 [04:51] <Necrodoom> wont work.
#516 [04:52] <I_AM_GOD> why wont it? the police could hack him back
#517 [04:52] <Necrodoom> its a cyber crime, your police cant do much
#518 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> It's out of their jurisdiction
#519 [04:52] <Necrodoom> if you follow what im trying to tell you
#520 [04:52] <Necrodoom> you could atleast reduce the damage
#521 [04:52] <I_AM_GOD> no, its okay, the hacker is gone
#522 [04:53] <Necrodoom> the hacker isnt gone..
#523 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> minecraft.net is the only place from which Minecraft should be purchased
#524 [04:53] <I_AM_GOD> the window exitted and the clown left, so he has to be gone
#525 [04:53] <Necrodoom> you may still havee viruses in your computer
#526 [04:53] <Necrodoom> which keylog you
#527 [04:53] <I_AM_GOD> keylog?
#528 [04:53] <I_AM_GOD> wtf is that?
#529 [04:53] <Necrodoom> means it sends to the hacker all your password information
#530 [04:54] <Necrodoom> you type
#531 [04:54] <I_AM_GOD> even my facebook information?
#532 [04:54] <Necrodoom> if you type it, yes
#533 [04:54] <Necrodoom> which means you need to get an antivirus
#534 [04:54] <I_AM_GOD> this is bad guys, this is bad. what if he tells my parents about my porn collection?
#535 [04:54] <I_AM_GOD> i have an antivirus
#536 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> I_AM_GOD: If you would like to let us know your username, we can confirm whether your Minecraft account is paid for or not?
#537 [04:55] <I_AM_GOD> bloodstorm3
#538 [04:55] <I_AM_GOD> http://biggeekdaddy.com/protection.html
#539 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> !paid bloodstorm3
#540 [04:56] <I_AM_GOD> im using this stuff -- http://biggeekdaddy.com/protection.html
#541 [04:56] <I_AM_GOD> how did u guyz do that?
#542 [04:56] <I_AM_GOD> guys*
#543 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> Mojang make the information freely available.
#544 [04:56] <I_AM_GOD> when does my antiviurs start deleting the virus?
#545 [04:56] <I_AM_GOD> im ready to get my account back
#546 [04:57] <Necrodoom> "Big Geek Daddy is a helpful and humorous website where both the Geek and average PC user can find useful computer information and watch funny videos."
#547 [04:57] <Necrodoom> i hope you arent serious about this.
#548 [04:57] <I_AM_GOD> sorry, i meant the links on there
#549 [04:58] <Necrodoom> youd be better off asking your parents to do the technical stuff
#550 [04:58] <rymate1234> Lol
#551 [04:58] <Necrodoom> like getting an actual antivirus
#552 [04:58] <I_AM_GOD> my dad isnt with us anymore...
#553 [04:58] <I_AM_GOD> and my mom doesnt know how to use a computer. thats why they have me, the techie kid!
#554 [04:59] <rymate1234> Lol
#555 [04:59] <Necrodoom> kid at the age of 30?
#556 [04:59] <I_AM_GOD> 30?
#557 [04:59] <Necrodoom> yes.
#558 [05:00] <I_AM_GOD> where did u get that? lol
#559 [05:00] <Necrodoom> because you think i wont notice you are a troll
#560 [05:01] <rymate1234> Gah troll
#561 [05:01] <I_AM_GOD> troll? trolling is trying to anger others, which I am not doing
#562 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> I_AM_GOD: How can we help you then
#563 [05:01] <Necrodoom> I_AM_GOD: just get off this IRC before an OP bans you off.
#564 [05:01] <I_AM_GOD> what am I doing rong?
#565 [05:01] <I_AM_GOD> i asked how to use Minecraft on linux and then u guys raged at me
#566 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> Which linux do you have?
#567 [05:02] <I_AM_GOD> ubuntu 11
#568 [05:03] <rymate1234> Get 12.04 :P
#569 [05:03] <I_AM_GOD> how/
#570 [05:03] <I_AM_GOD> look, i just want someone to solve my problem
#571 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> Would this of of any help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1726735
#572 [05:03] <I_AM_GOD> i dont need any other input
#573 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> I_AM_GOD: You have to solve your own problems. We can help you to find the door, but that's it.
#574 [05:04] <I_AM_GOD> i was talking about rymate
#575 [05:04] <rymate1234> -_-
#576 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> I_AM_GOD: Have you taken a look yet at the "Complete Ubuntu Installer Script"
#577 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> ...for minecraft
#578 [05:05] <I_AM_GOD> im downloading the file it told me to download
#579 [05:05] <I_AM_GOD> owp, now im watching the youtube tutorial
#580 [05:06] <DiskDaemon> Our apologies for being terse - normally we only see more knowledgable people using linux
#581 [05:06] * Zimsky restrains self from raging at low intellect
#581 [05:06] <I_AM_GOD> That's quite alright.(:
#582 [05:06] * I_AM_GOD strangles Zimsky.
#582 [05:07] <Zimsky> thx
#583 [05:07] <rymate1234> Lol
#584 [05:07] <I_AM_GOD> np
#585 [05:08] <I_AM_GOD> Wow, I wish I knew bash.
#586 [05:11] <I_AM_GOD> You have to be kidding me. >.>
#587 [05:13] <Necrodoom> I_AM_GOD: for refence, minecraft-download.net is a minecraft pirating site, it doesnt give you an option to "buy" the game
#588 [05:13] <I_AM_GOD> Yes, I'm fully aware of that.
#589 [05:13] <Necrodoom> nor download a malicious client
#590 [05:15] <Necrodoom> which invalidates your story
#591 [05:15] <DiskDaemon> NecrodoomL However, the Minecraft account she mentioned seems to be paid for at this stage
#592 [05:16] <I_AM_GOD> He*
#593 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> pronouns are such difficult things to manage here
#594 [05:16] <I_AM_GOD> Bloodstorm3 is my old account that I lended to a friend.
#595 [05:16] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: he also mentioned he bought it off the same site he downloaded from, and got a fake client instead
#596 [05:16] <Boreeas> I_AM_GOD: Installing on ubuntu is easy. Place the launcher somewhere in your home directory, e.g. ~/My\ Games/minecraft.jar. Then echo alias minecraft='cd My\ Games;./minecraft.jar' >> .bashrc
#597 [05:16] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: where the site doesnt do neither
#598 [05:16] <I_AM_GOD> I already know how. . .
#599 [05:16] <Boreeas> Then why are you here?
#600 [05:17] <I_AM_GOD> I'm not really sure..
#601 [05:17] <I_AM_GOD> Why are you here
#602 [05:18] <Necrodoom> I_AM_GOD: just stop with the trolling.
#603 [05:18] <I_AM_GOD> I'm not trolling. >.>
#604 [05:18] <Necrodoom> there are legitimate users who need help
#605 [05:18] <I_AM_GOD> And where are those users?
#606 [05:19] <Boreeas> I_AM_GOD: I am here to help people. You apparently can't be helped, and are trolling instead. Please leave now.
#607 [05:19] <DiskDaemon> I_AM_GOD: Do you require further assistance?
#608 [05:19] <I_AM_GOD> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
#609 [05:19] <Boreeas> !kick I_AM_GOD Requested
#610 [05:19] * AuBot kicked I_AM_GOD from #minecrafthelp (Reason: _AM_GOD :I love you too! <3 (Issued by Boreeas with reason: Requested))
#611 [05:19] <Necrodoom> finally, someone with a ban abillity
#612 [05:19] <Boreeas> No ban, just a kick.
#613 [05:20] <Necrodoom> either way. troll gone
#614 [05:20] <rymate1234> Lol
#615 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> Meanwhile I've narrowed down the minecraft server firewall issue on the Win8
#616 [05:21] <Necrodoom> seems like its not the first time he went trolling
#617 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> It's only the private profile for the firewall that affects things. When that's disabled, comms are all go. When inbound rules for the ports or the game are added though, the firewall doesn't seem to allow those through.
#618 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> Time for some logging
#619 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> logging
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#621 [05:24] <bcalkins17> how come when i swich to far render distacne for a few nims than swich back to tiny it gives me better fps and less chunck updates?/
#622 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> chunk loading isn't affected by view distance. You should be able to gain those same results by just leaving it on tiny and still sitting there for a few minutes
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#624 [05:26] <nick_name_FTW> What's with the 'account migrated' thing?
#625 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> better security
#626 [05:26] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: well
#627 [05:26] <nick_name_FTW> Will I have to login with my email every time?
#628 [05:27] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: ive seen a few people say it made them lost there premium
#629 [05:27] <DiskDaemon> yes - they're trying to prepare for an eventual ability for people to change their nickname
#630 [05:27] <nick_name_FTW> Oh, that would be pretty cool.
#631 [05:27] <bcalkins17> how come on my bukkit server i cant see minecarts but other people can?
#632 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> Try #bukkit
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#636 [05:48] <DiskDaemon> When just the private firewall on win8 is turned off connection with server can occur, but not when the private server is on with all inbound connections allowed. How odd
#637 [06:13] <Calinou> this is windows 8 8)
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#639 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> Welcome to Windows 8 - your new overlords
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#644 [07:19] <Gunslinger2> "internal exception:java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out" is going to be new MC name..../facepalm
#645 [07:19] <Calinou> Gunslinger2, the server crashed/whatever
#646 [07:19] <Calinou> wait until it restarts, or connect to another server.
#647 [07:20] <Gunslinger2> its mine, tried to do to much with world edit
#648 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> I finally resolved the Widows 8 firewall issue, and feel like a derp in the processs too
#649 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> After checking everything out, using netstat to check the listening ports, and monitoring network traffic, I realised that I should not be setting a rule for the minecraft_server.exe program
#650 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> javaw.exe is the one that was causing a difficulty. After some adjustments things seem to be all set
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#652 [07:27] <Calinou> Gunslinger2, heh... next time don't edit an excessive amount of blocks ;)
#653 [07:27] <Calinou> 100000 > reasonable limit
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#656 [07:36] <Mobster1337> Is there an alternative way to install MCP for some reason when i install a fresh install i get over 100 errors?
#657 [07:36] <Mobster1337> It'd be pointless uploading them all, When i check the logs folder every text document has errors and warnings inside
#658 [07:37] <DiskDaemon> Is this when you're decompiling minecraft.jar ?
#659 [07:37] <Mobster1337> Not sure, I'm new to the MCP thing, I just used the decompile inside the MCP folder
#660 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> Have you put anything yet in the MCP jars folder?
#661 [07:38] <Mobster1337> The minecraft server, And the 2 folders it asks for the in the Bins folder
#662 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> Are they clean and unmodded?
#663 [07:39] <Mobster1337> Yeah
#664 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> Put the first 100 lines or so up on pastebi for us
#665 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> *pastebin
#666 [07:39] <Mobster1337> Sure, From which text file? :P
#667 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> of the errors you're getting
#668 [07:40] <Mobster1337> Everyone of my text files have errors and warnings inside
#669 [07:41] <DiskDaemon> Does MCP itself show any errors when it's decompiling?
#670 [07:41] <Mobster1337> Yah ill upload that file
#671 [07:42] <Mobster1337> The paste is over 520 KB, Know any other pasting services?
#672 [07:42] <DiskDaemon> Just do the first 100 lines or so
#673 [07:43] <Calinou> MCP works fine for me - decompiling & recompiling client & server, reobfuscation, just fine
#674 [07:43] <Calinou> I can even modify source a bit and recompile and it still works :P
#675 [07:43] <DiskDaemon> it works fine for me too, has done for a long while
#676 [07:44] <Mobster1337> http://pastie.org/4108042
#677 [07:44] <DiskDaemon> Things are clearly not working find for him though, so before wiping everything and starting again, let's try to figure out what's going wrong
#678 [07:45] <Calinou> java 7 - try to use java 6 instead
#679 [07:45] <DiskDaemon> "!! Modified jar detected. Unpredictable results !!"
#680 [07:45] <DiskDaemon> There's your problem.
#681 [07:45] <Calinou> ^ keep the META-INF
#682 [07:45] <Calinou> also, don't you need the JDK?
#683 [07:45] <Mobster1337> Hmm, Should i uninstall the java shite and get it all again?
#684 [07:46] <DiskDaemon> Lines 6 and 7 imply that your JDK is going fine
#685 [07:46] <Mobster1337> hmm
#686 [07:46] <Mobster1337> I'm not using anything thats modified though
#687 [07:47] <DiskDaemon> Have you updated mcp?
#688 [07:48] <Mobster1337> I've only just downloaded it
#689 [07:48] <Mobster1337> Says no updates found
#690 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> What version of MCP did you download?
#691 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> Mobster1337: Your MCP says it's for the 12w17a snapshot of Minecraft.
#692 [07:49] <Mobster1337> 6.5
#693 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> Are you running 12w17a or 1.2.5 ?
#694 [07:49] <Mobster1337> 1.2.5
#695 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> You have the wrong version of MCP then
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#697 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> Mobster1337: This is what MCP should say for its first line:
#698 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> "== MCP 6.2 (data: 6.2, client: 1.2.5, server: 1.2.5) =="
#699 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> Do you see how the first line of the log you posted is different from that?
#700 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> 12w17a is one of the weekly snapshots of minecraft, which was a development build from April 26
#701 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> 12w17a was superceeded by others from May 3 onwards
#702 [07:53] <DiskDaemon> Mobster1337: You do not want or need any MCP tools for decopiling those development snapshots of Minecraft. You need MCP 6.2 which is for Minecraft 1.2.5
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#704 [07:53] <Mobster1337> Hang on, I'll have another crack at it with 6.2
#705 [07:54] <DiskDaemon> Mobster1337: Thank you for posting that log earlier. It's helped us to rapidly find the problem so that you can fix it and get going with things
#706 [07:54] <Mobster1337> No problem, It found an update right away :)
#707 [07:56] <Mobster1337> That did the job, Thank you
#708 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#709 [08:01] <Mobster1337> To use the mods will i have to give my friends the edited client or does it use like a plugin?
#710 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> Your best place for that info is #mcp-modding
#711 [08:03] <Mobster1337> Okay, Thank you once again
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#726 [10:12] <Chrille> I have a problem installing minecraft! I can log in, but the download stops between 10-20% and wont start again! I've been having this problem for 5 days now! Is there a solution to this!
#727 [10:12] <DiskDaemon> Your antivirus program is preventing it from downloading the files
#728 [10:13] <Chrille> Oh, should i disable it?
#729 [10:13] <DiskDaemon> yes, then re-enable it once complete
#730 [10:13] <Chrille> Okay, i'll try!
#731 [10:13] <Chrille> Thanks!
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#733 [10:15] <Chrille> It worked! Thank you so much!
#734 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#736 [10:16] <clarjon1> Enjoy the game :)
#737 [10:16] <lejo> help
#738 [10:16] <lejo> #MineCraftHelp
#739 [10:16] <Boreeas> ??> lejo ask
#740 [10:16] <Chrille> Thank you! I can't believe AVG blocked the game!
#741 [10:16] <VoxelHead> lejo: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#742 [10:16] <VoxelHead> lejo: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#743 [10:17] <Boreeas> He is gonna quit
#744 [10:17] <DiskDaemon> timeout?
#745 [10:17] <DiskDaemon> timeout?
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#747 [10:18] <lejo> ihave recived a message on minecraft it can't connect to minecraft.net but when im on my web browser i can log in to minecraft it start on saturday
#748 [10:19] <DiskDaemon> lejo: Could you please get that message to show again, and type it out for us as it appears there?
#749 [10:19] <lejo> at news or when i try to log in
#750 [10:20] <DiskDaemon> The error message that you get about not beign able to connect
#751 [10:21] <lejo> it says Can't connect to minecraft.net
#752 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> That's when you try to log in?
#753 [10:21] <lejo> ya
#754 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> What do you see when you go to this page? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#755 [10:23] <lejo> is it minecraft.net
#756 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> pardon?
#757 [10:24] <lejo> iit says bad login
#758 [10:24] <DiskDaemon> Thanks, so you can access the login section, which is good news
#759 [10:24] <lejo> k?
#760 [10:25] <Boreeas> ??> lejo win/host
#761 [10:25] <Boreeas> ??> lejo win/hosts
#762 [10:25] <VoxelHead> lejo: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#763 [10:25] <VoxelHead> lejo: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#764 [10:27] <DiskDaemon> lejo: Are you running an antivirus like AVG?
#765 [10:27] <lejo> yes
#766 [10:28] <DiskDaemon> I'm tempted to suggest temporarily disablign that, but I'm not at my main computer which has resources I can check, and it's 2:30am so I will let others here carry on helping instead
#767 [10:28] <Boreeas> lejo: Please follow the instructions VoxelHead gave you
#768 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> ^
#769 [10:29] <lejo> k
#770 [10:29] <lejo> pastebin is it trashcan
#771 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> It's www.pastebin.com
#772 [10:30] <lejo> that websitee
#773 [10:30] <lejo> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one # space. # # Additionally, comments (such as
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#775 [10:31] <Boreeas> No. Don't paste it here. Paste it on the website.
#776 [10:31] <Boreeas> Then hit submit and give us the resulting link
#777 [10:31] <lejo> k
#778 [10:32] <lejo> on create a new paste
#779 [10:33] <Boreeas> Yes
#780 [10:33] <lejo> k
#781 [10:33] <Boreeas> Actually, no
#782 [10:33] <Boreeas> On the bottom, click the big "Submit" button
#783 [10:34] <lejo> so
#784 [10:34] <lejo> raw or the first paste
#785 [10:35] <Boreeas> Just the link
#786 [10:35] <lejo> http://pastebin.com/3ecmePkB
#787 [10:35] <Boreeas> Okay, that looks fine
#788 [10:36] <lejo> ok
#789 [10:36] <Boreeas> Please disable AVG and try logging in again
#790 [10:36] <lejo> on avg
#791 [10:37] <lejo> or the antivirus prrogram i have¨
#792 [10:38] <Boreeas> Both, if you use both, otherwise just the program you use
#793 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> lejo: Do you have an exclamation mark your username for your computer?
#794 [10:40] <lejo> no
#795 [10:42] <lejo> my username on my computer is Leo
#796 [10:42] <DiskDaemon> lejo: Can you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#797 [10:42] <DiskDaemon> Does that windows username contain an ! or a ?
#798 [10:43] <lejo> no one
#799 [10:44] <DiskDaemon> okay - those are causes for the same problem, so ruling them out is useful
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#801 [10:45] <lejo> The ! or ? is the problem
#802 [10:45] <Boreeas> Yes
#803 [10:45] <DiskDaemon> There's a fix too, if that's the problem
#804 [10:45] <Boreeas> lejo: Is your system time correct? Does it display todays date, time and year?
#805 [10:46] <lejo> yes
#806 [10:47] <Boreeas> Check your Firewall if Java is allowed to connect to the internet
#807 [10:47] <Gunslinger2> i got to hand it to people that can use world edit and make nice looking things in MC cause im not having much luck with it, water is my new nemisis. a major p.i.t.a
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#809 [10:48] <lejo> java is allowed
#810 [10:49] <Boreeas> In that case, only one more idea. Please remove all current installations of java on your system and reinstall the most recent Java 6 version from http://java.com
#811 [10:49] <lejo> to get connected to mc
#812 [10:53] <lejo> i have java 6 on my pc shall i reinstall that
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#814 [10:54] <Boreeas> Yes
#815 [10:55] <lejo> cuz the dowload is version 7 update five is it correct
#816 [10:55] <Boreeas> No
#817 [10:55] <Boreeas> Download the lates version of Java 6
#818 [10:55] <lejo> k
#819 [10:56] <lejo> where is tthah
#820 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#821 [10:57] <Boreeas> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#822 [10:57] <Boreeas> God damn ninja
#823 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> used the scrollback
#824 [10:58] <Gunslinger2> *cue oriental music & bad lipsyncing* hai
#825 [10:59] <lejo> k
#826 [11:00] <lejo> its isnt for 32 bit
#827 [11:01] <lejo> should i take x86
#828 [11:01] <Boreeas> i586 is what you want then
#829 [11:02] <Boreeas> Online or offline, not the kernel
#830 [11:02] <lejo> dont know if it offline or online
#831 [11:02] <Boreeas> It's in the name
#832 [11:03] <lejo> which is for mc online
#833 [11:03] <Boreeas> Offline is larger, online is smaller but you will need to stay connected to the internet for the installation to complete
#834 [11:03] <Boreeas> Both are
#835 [11:03] <Boreeas> Simple answer: Take the offline version
#836 [11:03] <lejo> did that
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#838 [11:05] <DiskDaemon> lejo: When it says it can't connect to minecraft.net, do you get some form of text in the upper part of the window?
#839 [11:06] <lejo> ya
#840 [11:06] <DiskDaemon> What's the main thing that is says?
#841 [11:06] <lejo> connection reset
#842 [11:07] <DiskDaemon> It says "connection reset" in the minecraft launcher window?
#843 [11:07] <lejo> it works again hallelujah thanks for help
#844 [11:07] <Boreeas> No problem
#845 [11:07] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#846 [11:07] <Boreeas> Remember to turn your av program back on
#847 [11:08] <lejo> ya
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#849 [11:12] <lejo> do u helps with mc servers how to let friends join
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#852 [11:15] <Boreeas> lejo: You will need to do port forwarding for that, which is a lot more complex. That's a topic I don't really know a lot about, but maybe someone else will be able to help you
#853 [11:15] <Gurkenglas> Can I make MC stop displaying a simulation in the background of the screen? It eats too much of my CPU
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#858 [11:36] <CrusaderDeleters> lejo, you still here?
#859 [11:37] <CrusaderDeleters> I heard you need help with Port Forwarding.
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#861 [11:42] <Guest> my problem http://i.imgur.com/O9ewO.jpg notice (not downloaded) i have tried redownloading "force update" and making sure my username and pass are right
#862 [11:43] <superkabii> can you log to you account at http://www.minecraft.net/login successfully?
#863 [11:43] <Guest> yes :D
#864 [11:45] <Guest> i have tried on the new comp too for the first time i downloaded mc it tells me this
#865 [11:45] <lutzee> Turn off your firewall
#866 [11:45] <Guest> thats not the problem
#867 [11:46] <Guest> try redownloading mc on your comps this is what you will get
#868 [11:48] <Guest> hello...
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#870 [11:48] <Guest> i would get more help in youtube comments than here...
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#878 [12:20] <XDS> Where can i get help for millenaire?
#879 [12:22] <lutzee> #risucraft
#880 [12:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Hey lutz
#881 [12:29] <CrusaderDeleters> I got a problem
#882 [12:29] <CrusaderDeleters> I need to run Windows Explorer, but I do not know where the exe is, or how to run it. Help! D:
#883 [12:29] <Necrodoom> wat
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#885 [12:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh derp.
#886 [12:29] <Necrodoom> open a folder
#887 [12:30] <CrusaderDeleters> :I
#888 [12:30] <CrusaderDeleters> It removed all icons on my desktop.
#889 [12:30] <CrusaderDeleters> It removed my toolbar down below. I cannot even use windows key + r. D:
#890 [12:30] <Necrodoom> restart comp
#891 [12:30] <CrusaderDeleters> :D
#892 [12:30] <CrusaderDeleters> My friend helped.
#893 [12:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Running explorer.exe
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#896 [12:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh god, minecraft crashed. Derp. Gotta run test.bat nao. :c
#897 [12:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyone have the test.bat file?
#898 [12:35] <Necrodoom> wut
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#900 [12:36] <CrusaderDeleters> It's a bat file used to run minecraft in cmd prompt.
#901 [12:36] <CrusaderDeleters> It shows errors that notch failed to fix.
#902 [12:37] <abcharold> my minecraft has been working fine until today. it now says i have bad video drivers and that my pc doesnt support opengl acceleration
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#904 [12:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Abc, upgrade your graphics drivers.
#905 [12:38] <abcharold> when i go to the intel driver website it says to do a scan and then it says theres an update and it wont download
#906 [12:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Hey look, a laggy computer.
#907 [12:39] <abcharold> whos? mine?
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#912 [12:51] <Hephaistos> Hello
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#914 [12:52] <Hephaistos> can somebody help me in german ,maybe ? :)
#915 [12:55] <Hephaistos> hmm
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#924 [13:33] <ShadowBlaze18> Hello
#925 [13:34] <ShadowBlaze18> I have this confirmation email from mojang and I just noticed today it has no transaction id
#926 [13:35] <ShadowBlaze18> You have successfully made a payment to Mojang AB using your credit/debit card (MASTERCARD, (Credit Card Number) on 09 Oct 2011.
#927 [13:36] <ShadowBlaze18> Is there a way to request a new id?
#928 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Forward it to Mojang using their help ticket system at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#929 [13:36] <GreyVulpine> Be aware that it may take some time for them to get back to you. They have quite a backlog
#930 [13:36] <ShadowBlaze18> Okay thank you
#931 [13:37] <ShadowBlaze18> Where would the id be in the email btw?
#932 [13:37] <ShadowBlaze18> And there's nothing on that page
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#934 [13:42] <ShadowBlaze18> I gtg I will try to figure it out, thank you
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#939 [13:53] <Deros2001> hi, s.b. there to help?
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#941 [13:54] <prrye> Hey all, i am new to minecraft and have been wondering about the villagers. Am i able to find them in multiplayer mode aswell?
#942 [13:54] <Deros2001> Yes if they are enabled by the server stuff
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#944 [13:55] <Calinou> prrye, yes you can
#945 [13:55] <Calinou> config can disable villager spawning though
#946 [13:55] <Calinou> Deros2001, yes? don't ask toask
#947 [13:55] <Calinou> to ask*
#948 [13:55] <Deros2001> Can s.b. help me. I always get an error message like "Java Socket Write Error: Connection Reset" after playing a few seconds on an online server
#949 [13:55] <prrye> if i have setup an server and is looking in the minecraft folder and the file server. what code name should i look for to see if its turned on
#950 [13:56] <Calinou> Deros2001, try to play on some other server, try this one: s.nerd.nu
#951 [13:56] <Calinou> (.nu not .ru)
#952 [13:56] <prrye> the villagers that is
#953 [13:56] <Calinou> prrye, server.properties > "spawn-npcs" > true by default, set to false to disable.
#954 [13:56] <Calinou> also affects iron golem spawning
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#956 [13:56] <prrye> arh ill check
#957 [13:57] <jhonnyx1> Umm, my computer won't verify Minecraft publisher
#958 [13:57] <prrye> Calinou --> Thx m8, i just have to keep looking then, they seem hard to find
#959 [13:57] <jhonnyx1> can anybody help with that?
#960 [13:57] <Calinou> yes villages aren't easy to find :c
#961 [13:57] <Deros2001> still getting the same error
#962 [13:58] <Calinou> jhonnyx1, huh? try to use the downloaded version, not the browser version, it often works much better
#963 [13:58] <prrye> is there some typical locations they spawn? like NOT in deserts or ONLY in winter etc?
#964 [13:58] <Calinou> typical locations: deserts, plains
#965 [13:58] <jhonnyx1> I do use the downloaded version, but it won't save it to my PC. I have to redownload it just to play.
#966 [13:58] <prrye> arh sweet
#967 [13:58] <Calinou> " but it won't save it to my PC" > explain why? :/ - also, what operating system/java version?
#968 [13:59] <jhonnyx1> It still saves my worlds and what not, but I can't use mods or texture packs
#969 [13:59] <jhonnyx1> I'm using windows and I think I have the newest java version
#970 [13:59] <Calinou> HD texture packs require a third party fix; you have to delete the "META-INF" folder in minecraft.jar to use mods, mods do not work with browser version
#971 [13:59] <Calinou> also try downgrading to java 6 (uninstall java 7 first): http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#972 [13:59] <jhonnyx1> I get a window that says The publisher could not be verefied.
#973 [14:00] <Calinou> Windows x86 Offline = 32 bit, Windows x64 = 64 bit - if you have a 64 bit OS, install this one
#974 [14:00] <Deros2001> Installed Java (32bit & 64bit), managed firewall & router but it still don't works. And the funny thing is that i had a time while this error didn't happen but since the last update it's there again
#975 [14:02] <Deros2001> and if you google for it it seems like there isn't a fix for this error...-.-
#976 [14:03] <Deros2001> is there any other port than 25565 (UDP&TCP) to open for playing minecraft online?
#977 [14:05] <CrusaderDeleters> You acn set it.
#978 [14:05] <CrusaderDeleters> easily.
#979 [14:05] <Deros2001> how?
#980 [14:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Uhm...
#981 [14:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Not sure
#982 [14:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't know the properties format for mcserver
#983 [14:05] <CrusaderDeleters> s
#984 [14:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Try to look for "port" and change it to whatever port you plan on using.
#985 [14:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Imad. :C Minecraft no longer runs with great precision.
#986 [14:07] <Deros2001> you mean that i havbe to open the port which the server i want to play on is using?
#987 [14:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes.
#988 [14:07] <Calinou> Deros2001, minecraft doesn't use UDP, only for query protocol - and you do not have to use this usually
#989 [14:08] <CrusaderDeleters> You can open two, three, etc.
#990 [14:08] <Calinou> CrusaderDeleters> Imad. :C Minecraft no longer runs with great precision. < huh?
#991 [14:08] <CrusaderDeleters> It's lagging, crashing, etc.
#992 [14:08] <Calinou> Deros2001, no -_- only the server has to do this. plus, opening ports is a huge security risk
#993 [14:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I know what the problem is. But I don't have the money to fix. :c
#994 [14:08] <Calinou> CrusaderDeleters, NO, fix yoru connection
#995 [14:08] <Calinou> also: try using wired internet (ethernet) instead of wifi, can fix. or use some better wifi adapter
#996 [14:09] <CrusaderDeleters> It's not internet.
#997 [14:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Internet is no problem at all.
#998 [14:09] <CrusaderDeleters> I am running a Pentium D processor.
#999 [14:10] <Calinou> what does this have to do with your processor?
#1000 [14:10] <CrusaderDeleters> I cannot run a simple flash game without crashing.
#1001 [14:10] <Calinou> seriously; what kind of "say 'dont crash' and the program will work" dude are you?
#1002 [14:10] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#1003 [14:11] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm just saying, my processor aint good.
#1004 [14:11] <Calinou> what does this have to do with crashing? explain.
#1005 [14:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Processor bad = freezing, which leads to crashing, eventually.
#1006 [14:12] <Deros2001> well im using a wire connection so this shouldn be the problem
#1007 [14:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Deros, even with wireless, it's still the same level of ease. c:
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#1009 [14:14] <Deros2001> omg, mojangs support is as bad as the support of dice, they say they fix a problem but they don't do it
#1010 [14:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Deros, welcome to programmer's world.
#1011 [14:19] <Eddie> Lies
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#1017 [14:49] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Hey. Is there anyone around who could help me with a problem I've got?
#1018 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> t1b3r1um_tr00per whats your issue ^^?
#1019 [14:49] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Hey. :) Minecraft freezes on me :(
#1020 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Care to give more detail on that, like when and what exactly happens?
#1021 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> like, black screen or?
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#1023 [14:50] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Sure. Sorry. may I give you a forum link? it just saves me typing it all again
#1024 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Sure
#1025 [14:51] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I tweeted Marc_IRL lol, no reply :(
#1026 [14:51] <Marc_IRL> I heard my name
#1027 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1028 [14:51] <Kealper> lol
#1029 [14:51] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1296437-mc-freezes-please-help-me/
#1030 [14:52] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, sorry, I'm no good at fixing the game. I can tell you anything you want about accounts and billing though!
#1031 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL I have a question!
#1032 [14:52] <Marc_IRL> Go for it
#1033 [14:53] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Ah ok, Marc_IRL. :)
#1034 [14:53] <GreyVulpine> t1b3r1um_tr00per - Can you give us an example of an error report that you might get?
#1035 [14:53] <Grim_Reaper> How can I get a super duper awesome account that gives special mojang powers to rule the world
#1036 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> Beat Notch's donation in one of the indie bundles
#1037 [14:54] <Marc_IRL> Just as soon as I can get admin powers in this channel to kick people who ask me questions like that :p
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#1039 [14:54] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1039 [14:54] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: did you fix it yet?
#1040 [14:54] <Marc_IRL> HEH HEH HEH
#1041 [14:54] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL also, you didn't auth
#1042 [14:54] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> At this moment in time with current Nvidia drivers for my 8800GTS and latest version of Java 64bit, the screen crashes on me
#1043 [14:54] <Marc_IRL> I didn't what now?
#1044 [14:54] <ShaRose> auth with nickserv
#1045 [14:55] <Symbos> Why has my money for my premium payment went to Worldpay limited instead of moneybookers?
#1046 [14:55] <ShaRose> remember? the first time you came on I told you to register an account?
#1047 [14:55] <Marc_IRL> I swore I did. Maybe that was just the Reddit IRC. I kinda hate IRC.
#1048 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> [20:54] <@GreyVulpine> Beat Notch's donation in one of the indie bundles
#1049 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#1050 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> lol Marc_IRL
#1051 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> t1b3r1um_tr00per your issue is beginning to make me wonder a lot
#1052 [14:55] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, the nickserv should have asked me to verify, right?
#1053 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> Since you've already tried a lot of things
#1054 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> yup
#1055 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> But you can always /ns identify again
#1056 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> And see if it says you're already logged in
#1057 [14:56] <ShaRose> or you could whois like I did
#1058 [14:56] <ShaRose> btw you should enable nick protection if you want it to tell you to auth
#1059 [14:56] <Marc_IRL> It says I'm now identified
#1060 [14:56] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1061 [14:56] * Grim_Reaper claps
#1061 [14:56] * GreyVulpine gives a thumbs up
#1061 [14:56] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Grim_Reaper: even in a web browser it freezes. If I have MC minimized on my taskbar it still knocks my system out. Sorry I haven't used IRC since GameSpy Arcade back in the day
#1062 [14:57] <ShaRose> GreyVulpine now give him +oOr and stuff
#1063 [14:57] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1064 [14:57] <Symbos> Why has the money for my premium payment went to Worldpay limited instead of moneybookers?
#1065 [14:57] <ShaRose> !flags mollstam
#1066 [14:57] <Marc_IRL> The last time someone gave me admin powers over anything, I incinerated an entire server of Minecrafters.
#1067 [14:57] <GreyVulpine> You know my rule around here, you get ops forced on you for good behavior as punishment
#1068 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1069 [14:58] * Morrolan pokes Marc_IRL
#1069 [14:58] <ShaRose> GreyVulpine can I have it then :V
#1070 [14:58] <Morrolan> Who is that. D:
#1071 [14:58] <Marc_IRL> Symbos: I think I can kinda answer that
#1072 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL can I ask you to force notch to blow his nose and send me the used tissue
#1073 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1074 [14:58] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan \o/
#1074 [14:58] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#1074 [14:58] * t1b3r1um_tr00per hugs a crr
#1074 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I haven't been around that often to really watch for new volunteers
#1075 [14:58] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> bah
#1076 [14:58] <GreyVulpine> Get another op to vouch for you, and I will
#1077 [14:58] <TheNytangel> Hmm
#1078 [14:59] <Symbos> Marc_IRL: That'd be great
#1079 [14:59] <Marc_IRL> Symbos: I've been trying to figure out for months what the heck Worldpay Limited is. It's even stumped some of our employees. So we asked Moneybookers, and it sounds like it's like a payment partner of theirs, or a subsidiary, or something. Basically, sometimes transactions run through Worldpay, I just don't know what region or currency triggers it.
#1080 [14:59] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: do you think it'd be smart to grab my hard drive out of my old computer and get the files I need off of it? I need like, 17GB of space and my flash drive is only 4GB :P
#1081 [15:00] <GreyVulpine> That's up to you
#1082 [15:00] <Boreeas> Hey, Morrolan, vouch for me and I will /not/ hack your computer ^^
#1083 [15:00] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> So folks, any ideas to my problem? perhaps an enderman removed a certain component?
#1084 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> t1b3r1um_tr00per have you installed both 32bit and 64bit of 1.6 java?
#1085 [15:00] <Symbos> Marc_IRL: So my payment did go through to the correct place and I did not get scammed?
#1086 [15:00] <TheNytangel> Either that or I need a 20GB flash drive
#1087 [15:00] * Morrolan slaps Boreeas
#1087 [15:00] <Boreeas> D:
#1088 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> I vote Morrolan gets his op downgraded to voice because I ALWAYS have to hug him first :<
#1089 [15:00] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Only 64 bit. Not sure if 32 wouid work on 64 OS?
#1090 [15:00] <Morrolan> Daww. :(
#1091 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> It's recommended to install both 32bit and 64bit
#1092 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> I even did it
#1093 [15:00] <Marc_IRL> Symbos: I would imagine so. But to be sure, toss me your username and I'll verify.
#1094 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> See if that MAYBE helps in some way
#1095 [15:01] <Symbos> Marc_IRL: My username is Symbos, but it says I haven't gotten premium status yet
#1096 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> !paid Symbos
#1097 [15:01] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Ok, gonna go get 32 version :) but Grim_Reaper MC worked fine all max settings on XP 32bit same hardware.. Bizzar eh? brb
#1098 [15:02] <Marc_IRL> How long ago did you buy?
#1099 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> Could be vista hating
#1100 [15:02] <Morrolan> Either way, so I've been here for months without Mojang caring about IRC at all, now I leave for a few days and suddendly we've got company? Guess I should leave more often then. ;D
#1101 [15:02] <Symbos> Marc_IRL: 2 hours maybe, didn't get any verification e-mail though, nor does it say anything about any payment on the moneybookers site
#1102 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> [21:03] <@Morrolan> Either way, so I've been here for months without Mojang caring about IRC at all, now I leave for a few days and suddendly we've got company? Guess I should leave more often then. ;D
#1103 [15:03] <ShaRose> Morrolan no mojang cared, just not in here
#1104 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> lold
#1105 [15:03] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: no need to worry, I just stole my sister's "portable" hard drive while she is out of.. state for a week :)
#1106 [15:03] <Morrolan> Blablabla.
#1107 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> Also no Morrolan. please dont leave me alone ;-;
#1108 [15:03] <Morrolan> No worries. <3
#1109 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> <3 :p
#1110 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> People must seriously think I love Morrolan with all the hugs he gets
#1111 [15:04] <Morrolan> Love is in the air, hope none is allergic. :D
#1112 [15:04] <Morrolan> Haha, yea.
#1113 [15:04] <Marc_IRL> Morrolan: This IRC isn't official or anything, so it's not like a bunch of us would be here (though I think I see Tobias lurking over there). But once I found out there was a help IRC, it was relevant to me, and I pop in from time to time.
#1114 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1115 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL this is totally.. official ;-;
#1116 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> Just.. not.. with mojang
#1117 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> But mollstam rarely ever says anything ;;
#1118 [15:04] <Morrolan> Marc_IRL - If you say so.
#1119 [15:04] <TheNytangel> Grim_Reaper: he talked to me once ;)
#1120 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> Same
#1121 [15:05] <Kealper> it's unofficially official
#1122 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1123 [15:05] <Marc_IRL> Symbos: Normally I'd tell people to shoot us an email from the help site, but I want to nail this Worldpay thing. Give it a day or so to go through, and if it doesn't, email me directly with all of the details that you have.
#1124 [15:05] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: Well, I did just list it on our help site :-)
#1125 [15:05] <Marc_IRL> Speaking of that, has anyone noticed an increase of traffic in the last few days?
#1126 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> Oh my
#1127 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> Now we're going to get tons of people asking us MORE questions
#1128 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL seems about the same
#1129 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> But then again my attention has been less the past week or so
#1130 [15:06] <Symbos> Marc_IRL: Ok, so wolrdpay is normal? What is your email address?
#1131 [15:06] <Kealper> if it's back on the site again, just give it some time, it'll start to get flooded again
#1132 [15:06] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Grim_Reaper: If I leave IRC means it hasn't worked. WIsh me luck lol, jesus I need it.
#1133 [15:06] <Marc_IRL> I didn't imagine you'd get a huge increase. But it's nice to have that listed as a resource, especially since we just can't have a tech support team.
#1134 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> Goodluck t1b3r1um_tr00per
#1135 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah Marc_IRL
#1136 [15:07] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: Seems to have slightly picked up, but I think that phase started a while ago
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#1138 [15:07] <Marc_IRL> Well, I won't do to you guys what I did to the Reddit guys a while ago. Posted the web link to their IRC in my twitter feeed and trollface'd them :p
#1139 [15:08] <Marc_IRL> It was fun to watch the flood
#1140 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Gah.
#1141 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1142 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah we wont like you if you do that :<
#1143 [15:08] <Boreeas> +m all the way
#1144 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> What was that command to set modes again from greybot or was it aubot
#1145 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> It was .modeset or something
#1146 [15:08] <GreyVulpine> Probably aubot
#1147 [15:09] <Kealper> .set mode +m
#1148 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> .set mode +m
#1149 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> .set mode -m
#1150 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> yay \o/
#1151 [15:09] <Morrolan> .set mode -o Kealper
#1152 [15:09] <Morrolan> Hmm
#1153 [15:09] <Boreeas> .set mode +m
#1154 [15:09] <Boreeas> Wow
#1155 [15:09] <Boreeas> .set mode -m
#1156 [15:09] <Morrolan> I made AuBot error. :D
#1157 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> /.set mode hug Morrolan
#1158 [15:09] * Morrolan hugs AuBot
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#1159 [15:09] <Boreeas> .set mode +b *!*@*
#1160 [15:09] <Kealper> NOES
#1161 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1162 [15:09] <Boreeas> D'aww
#1163 [15:10] <Morrolan> I assume it only allows non-lethal mods. :)
#1164 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Nice try
#1165 [15:10] <Morrolan> modes*
#1166 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Darn t1b3r didn't... srurvive
#1167 [15:10] <Marc_IRL> Oooookay, well I'm going back to customer emails. If someone can find something else to stump me with, poke me with the name using beepy thingamajig. Otherwise, I'm going to be pretty silent so I can get a lot done :-)
#1168 [15:10] <Kealper> never ever set that mode in a channel VoxelHead is in lol
#1169 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#1170 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Have fun
#1171 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Oh Marc_IRL
#1172 [15:10] <GreyVulpine> G'luck
#1173 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> If you want
#1174 [15:10] <Morrolan> Kealper - Haha.
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#1176 [15:10] <Kealper> it'll go ballistic and start kicking everyone matching the banmask
#1177 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> Tell each person you reply to
#1178 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> That Grim loves them
#1179 [15:10] <Boreeas> Kealper: Would it kick himself?
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#1181 [15:10] <Kealper> i have no idea
#1182 [15:10] <Grim_Reaper> t1b3r1um_tr00per not work I take it?
#1183 [15:11] <Kealper> actually
#1184 [15:11] * t1b3r1um_tr00per sighs
#1184 [15:11] <Kealper> it might just remove the ban, since the ban would match itself as well
#1185 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> mhm
#1186 [15:11] <Boreeas> Ah
#1187 [15:11] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> It didnt work
#1188 [15:11] <Kealper> dunno, let's find out what it does
#1189 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#1190 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> lol VoxelHead
#1191 [15:11] <TheNytangel> Kealper: I remember watching you start playing all of those games that you have on steam....
#1192 [15:11] <Morrolan> Vox's survival instinct is strong. :D
#1193 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> t1b3r1um_tr00per ok have you got the latest windows updates and such?
#1194 [15:11] <Kealper> wat
#1195 [15:12] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I do indeed :)
#1196 [15:12] <TheNytangel> Kealper: It says "Kealper is now playing Minecraft" and stuff like that
#1197 [15:12] <TheNytangel> :P
#1198 [15:12] <Kealper> oh lol
#1199 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm.. Im really not sure
#1200 [15:12] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> :(
#1201 [15:12] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> All I wanna do is play 1 game lol
#1202 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> I wish suggesting to wash out the motherboard with warm soapy water was a legit way to fix any problem >_>
#1203 [15:12] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Indeed
#1204 [15:13] <Boreeas> Water-cooled computer
#1205 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> Ok lets see
#1206 [15:13] <Boreeas> Put it in the kitchen sink.
#1207 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> You've tried updating all your drivers
#1208 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> Rolled them back too
#1209 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> Installed 1.6 versions of java
#1210 [15:13] <TheNytangel> Grim_Reaper: I heard GreyVulpine once say that if we tell people to do stuff that will harm their computer..... I don't remember the rest, so I will just say that bad things will happen
#1211 [15:13] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I have Pocket edition and 360 version but naw I wanna play PC :P
#1212 [15:13] <TheNytangel> Like telling someone to put shutdown -s in a .bat file
#1213 [15:13] <Grim_Reaper> Lol TheNytangel
#1214 [15:14] <Boreeas> Now, that's hardly harming their computer
#1215 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> Reinstalled minecraft too. No mods, Anti virus checked, Even bios settings
#1216 [15:14] <Kealper> so anyways.... what is t1b3r1um_tr00per's problem?
#1217 [15:14] <TheNytangel> Boreeas: but GreyVulpine doesn't allow it... :P
#1218 [15:14] <Boreeas> Putting that bat file in autostart on the other hand...
#1219 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> Kealper http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1296437-mc-freezes-please-help-me/
#1220 [15:14] <TheNytangel> Boreeas: what if.. yeah I was going to say that
#1221 [15:14] * Kealper reads
#1221 [15:14] <Grim_Reaper> Umm...
#1222 [15:14] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Well, windows decided to get all the drivers for my computer and I've tried different video drivers old and new. er, tried Java 6.12, 3.32 and 7.5 Bios looks allrigh
#1223 [15:15] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried specifically disabling some settings like anti aliasing on the game?
#1224 [15:15] <Grim_Reaper> t1b3r1um_tr00per did you not download the drivers from nvidia themself?
#1225 [15:15] <Grim_Reaper> I would HIGHLY suggest that. Since windows doesn't quite.. update nvidia drivers
#1226 [15:15] <Kealper> ^
#1227 [15:16] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Yeah nvidia ones. And guru 3d ones, currently using the one vista wanted to use for gfx. I have tried playing in control panel but not sure what I've toggled on and off due to doing different things
#1228 [15:16] <Kealper> Windows Update drivers rarely contain all the things needed for games, usually they have just enough to get the Windows Aero theme working and that's it
#1229 [15:16] <Kealper> hmm
#1230 [15:16] <Kealper> ok then, time for some deep debugging
#1231 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> Indeed
#1232 [15:17] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Bit of a random request. Remote assistance?
#1233 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> Though I dont venture there due to my lack of knowledge. So Kealper will help with that
#1234 [15:17] <Kealper> i could use TeamViewer if you wanted
#1235 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> t1b3r1um_tr00per download teamviewer
#1236 [15:17] <Grim_Reaper> teamviewer.com
#1237 [15:17] <Kealper> wait
#1238 [15:17] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Ok
#1239 [15:17] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Whats up?
#1240 [15:18] <Kealper> t1b3r1um_tr00per: download this file: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS_en.exe
#1241 [15:18] <Grim_Reaper> o.O
#1242 [15:18] <Grim_Reaper> Whats the diff Kealper?
#1243 [15:18] <Kealper> and after you've downloaded it, run it... then we'll take the rest in to PM so you don't give out any info that random people in this channel shouldn't have
#1244 [15:18] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Sure got ID
#1245 [15:18] <Morrolan> Like your cupsize. :)
#1246 [15:18] <Kealper> Grim_Reaper: that's the quick support client, good for a one-time help thing
#1247 [15:18] <Grim_Reaper> Aww I totally want to view his pc
#1248 [15:18] <Grim_Reaper> Oh Kealper nice
#1249 [15:18] <TheNytangel> Kealper: what is teamviewer QS? :o
#1250 [15:18] <Grim_Reaper> lol Morrolan
#1251 [15:19] * Calinou [Calinou@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1252 [15:19] <Morrolan> Quick Session or so, TheNytangel.
#1253 [15:19] <Kealper> t1b3r1um_tr00per: there should be a little tab with my name on it up at the top of your chat, use that to talk to me directly
#1254 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> Oh look it's the person who LOVES everything and beign banned from minecraft servers
#1255 [15:19] <Morrolan> Doesn't allow to connect anywhere, only allows you to get connected to etc.
#1256 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> Or type /query Kealper Iheartkealper
#1257 [15:19] <Kealper> everyoneheartskealper
#1258 [15:19] <Calinou> Grim_Reaper, huh?
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#1260 [15:19] * Morrolan hugs AuBot abd hearts Kealper
#1260 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> Hi Calinou :p
#1261 [15:19] <Calinou> lol Grim_Reaper... hi
#1262 [15:20] <Morrolan> abd? Oh, man.
#1263 [15:20] * Calinou obits AuBot and Morrolan
#1263 [15:20] <Calinou> lol
#1264 [15:20] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: for some reason though, my computer won't start normally.. but in safe mode it will
#1265 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> Tried doing a windows repair?
#1266 [15:21] <florato> i am right here to get help?
#1267 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> florato sure what do you need
#1268 [15:21] * Marc_IRL [Marc_IRL@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1269 [15:21] <florato> i have an problem with my minecraft profile
#1270 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> Care to elaborate?
#1271 [15:21] <Grim_Reaper> Welcome back marc
#1272 [15:21] <Calinou> hi Marc_IRL ;)
#1273 [15:21] <Calinou> marc in real life.
#1274 [15:21] <TheNytangel> Pfft
#1275 [15:21] <TheNytangel> You didn't say hi to me..
#1276 [15:22] <florato> i have buy minecraft by ELV for any hours but my status is not actually
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#1278 [15:22] <Marc_IRL> My connection here is spotty, so I might be in and out. Nothing special :p
#1279 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> Thats what she said
#1280 [15:22] <Dragon_EX> lol
#1281 [15:22] <TheNytangel> florato: by ELV?
#1282 [15:22] * GreyVulpine thwaps Grim_Reaper over the head
#1282 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#1283 [15:22] <Dragon_EX> XD
#1284 [15:22] <Dragon_EX> in yo face, b****
#1285 [15:22] <Morrolan> Elektronisches Lastschriftverfahren, TheNytangel.
#1286 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> florato what if your username?
#1287 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> is your*
#1288 [15:23] <florato> sure
#1289 [15:23] <TheNytangel> Morrolan: dafuq is that
#1290 [15:23] <Calinou> Marc_IRL, hay bales pl0x
#1291 [15:23] <florato> i dont know the right name for elv in englisch...
#1292 [15:23] <TheNytangel> Something german, I know that
#1293 [15:23] <Morrolan> TheNytangel - Some sort of payment method, popular in Germany.
#1294 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> florato just type out your minecraft username as it's spelled :p
#1295 [15:23] <florato> in german its "Elektronisches Lastschriftverfahren
#1296 [15:23] <Dragon_EX> thats german alrigth
#1297 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> No I mean your minecraft username. Not your actual name :p
#1298 [15:24] <Dragon_EX> wow i fail at spelling
#1299 [15:24] <TheNytangel> Let me guess... elektronischeslastschriftverfahren.com is their website or something
#1300 [15:24] <Marc_IRL> ELV = debit transaction in german
#1301 [15:24] <florato> my minecraft username is florato^^
#1302 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> !paid Florato
#1303 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> Ok
#1304 [15:24] <Marc_IRL> Google Translate. One of the most useful tools in my job,.
#1305 [15:24] <Dragon_EX> !paid Dragon_EX
#1306 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> And did you recieve any emails after you paid? Also where did you buy minecraft from?
#1307 [15:24] <Kealper> well crap
#1308 [15:24] <Dragon_EX> :)
#1309 [15:24] <florato> no i havent get any e-mail
#1310 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> And which site did you buy it from?
#1311 [15:25] <florato> but i have saved the link at the end who stand my username and an code
#1312 [15:25] <florato> by minecraft.net
#1313 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> ok
#1314 [15:25] <Kealper> extreme crap
#1315 [15:25] <TheNytangel> Kealper: what's wrong?
#1316 [15:25] <Kealper> i think his computer just BSOD'd
#1317 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> It might be taking a while to go through
#1318 [15:26] <Marc_IRL> And the last question: when you look at your bank transactions or wherever you paid from, does it actually show that you were charged?
#1319 [15:26] * t1b3r1um_tr00per [t1b3r1um_tr00per@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1320 [15:26] <TheNytangel> Kealper: whos?
#1321 [15:26] <Marc_IRL> 99% of the time, the answer to this question is no, and the solution is to try your purchase again.
#1322 [15:26] <Kealper> TheNytangel: t1b3r1um_tr00per's
#1323 [15:26] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Kealper: sorry. But I assume it locked up and had to restart
#1324 [15:27] <florato> m arc i dont understand your qquestion
#1325 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> florato to explain
#1326 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> He's asking
#1327 [15:27] <Kealper> t1b3r1um_tr00per: yeah, so i noticed...
#1328 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> Did you check your bank, for transactions/lists saying that the payment worked?
#1329 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> Did it take money off your bank?
#1330 [15:27] <florato> i have payed with ELV or electronic card its in germany
#1331 [15:27] <Kealper> t1b3r1um_tr00per: shall we take this back to private messages? i'll give TeamViewer another go, but i won't run Minecraft until i've found out why it wants to lock up
#1332 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1333 [15:28] <Dragon_EX> guys look at this
#1334 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> florato is there no way to check if the payment worked?
#1335 [15:28] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Sure :)
#1336 [15:28] <Dragon_EX> !paid udsygfiasyu
#1337 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> Thats not surprising Dragon_EX :p
#1338 [15:28] <Dragon_EX> :p
#1339 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe try to buy it again and see if it works
#1340 [15:28] <TheNytangel> Dragon_EX: just don't check if Notch has paid.. you get kicked
#1341 [15:29] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1342 [15:29] <florato> no i dont think now it was only 4~5 hours if i payed... i dont think that my bank have payed this in so short time
#1343 [15:29] <Dragon_EX> lol
#1344 [15:29] <Grim_Reaper> florato then I suggest waiting up to 48 hours
#1345 [15:29] <Grim_Reaper> If your account is still not premium
#1346 [15:29] <florato> oh ok
#1347 [15:29] <Grim_Reaper> I suggest emailing help@mojang.com
#1348 [15:29] <florato> yes i know because this my question^^
#1349 [15:29] <Marc_IRL> nooooooo
#1350 [15:29] <florato> okay i will save this e-mail-addres
#1351 [15:30] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: Please do not tell people to email us. They need to use the web form, because it asks for information. If people email us directly, we have to email everyone back asking them for their information. It doubles our response times.
#1352 [15:31] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry Marc_IRL.
#1353 [15:31] <florato> thanks for help i will wish all good night
#1354 [15:31] <Marc_IRL> Additionally, if people email us directly, instead of using the help site, they skip over all of the articles, some of which could have solved their issue. If everyone emailed us, we'd get like 600 emails a day, and half of them wouldn't contain enough info to help them.
#1355 [15:31] <Grim_Reaper> Makes sense I guess
#1356 [15:31] <Marc_IRL> florato: This is the correct article for your issue: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1357 [15:32] <Morrolan> Apart from the hope that people will read the articles on the support site. :P
#1358 [15:32] <Marc_IRL> Yeah... if people think we're slow now, imagine what having our email address listed would do.
#1359 [15:32] <TheNytangel> Marc_IRL: who screwed up the links and why is there an extra - after it? :P
#1360 [15:32] <Marc_IRL> People do read those articles. Tens of thousands of them. I have the stats to provide it :p
#1361 [15:32] <Morrolan> You also got stats how much time they spend on those articles?
#1362 [15:32] <Marc_IRL> yes
#1363 [15:33] <Morrolan> Okay then.
#1364 [15:33] <Marc_IRL> I have stats for everything :p
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#1366 [15:34] <Marc_IRL> So, for the regulars here in the room... If anyone has account or billing questions, hopefully there's a corresponding article that you can just link to. Part of my job is making sure that there's an article for each of the major questions. If there isn't one, I create it. That way, the only help you're having to give is if someone breaks their game or can't get it to run.
#1367 [15:34] <florato> but i think i must gets an e-mail that i have do this pay like an confirmation
#1368 [15:34] <Boreeas> Noted
#1369 [15:34] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1370 [15:35] <florato> not that i have allready payed-so that i would to pay
#1371 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> [21:33] <@Marc_IRL> I have stats for everything :p
#1372 [15:35] <idea7366> trying to install mods for the first time and I am not sure how. I can not open any of my jar file.. please help??????
#1373 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> Should totally make one for how many times I hug Morrolan
#1374 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> Idea we dont support mod help. But you can use winrar to open them
#1375 [15:35] <Morrolan> Make sure to use a 16-bit number though. ;D
#1376 [15:35] <Grim_Reaper> I would suggest going to #risucraft
#1377 [15:35] <Boreeas> int hugtally = Integer.MAX_VALUE
#1378 [15:36] <Boreeas> ;
#1379 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan 64bit pfft
#1380 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> I'll get there soon
#1381 [15:36] <Morrolan> Haha, then better start hugging. :D
#1382 [15:36] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan more \o/
#1382 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1383 [15:36] <Boreeas> No more hugs, Grim_Reaper, or you will have an overflow and be back at -2^3- oh hell
#1384 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#1385 [15:36] <Grim_Reaper> :<
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#1387 [15:37] <Dragon_EX> how do i use fraps?
#1388 [15:37] <Morrolan> Start it, click the button.
#1389 [15:37] <Morrolan> Pray your CPU supports it, and your HDD has enough space.
#1390 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> Do we have mojangs help site in one of the ?? commands?
#1391 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1392 [15:37] <Morrolan> help.mojang.com , simple enough. :D
#1393 [15:37] <Morrolan> ??< index
#1394 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#1395 [15:37] <Dragon_EX> i cant find the thingy that runs fraps :P
#1396 [15:37] <Morrolan> But maybe, lemme check.
#1397 [15:37] <Morrolan> !g Fraps
#1398 [15:37] <Morrolan> COuld have sworn GreyBot had one of those.
#1399 [15:38] <Morrolan> http://www.fraps.com/
#1400 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> ??> index
#1401 [15:38] <Morrolan> ?? support
#1402 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> ?? index
#1403 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#1404 [15:38] <Calinou> ?? spam
#1405 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> ??index
#1406 [15:38] <Grim_Reaper> http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/
#1407 [15:38] <Morrolan> ??!
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#1409 [15:38] <Boreeas> ;+ support help.mojang.com
#1410 [15:39] <Boreeas> WugBot :<
#1411 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> Wugbot isn't here. Wug killed him :|
#1412 [15:39] <Dragon_EX> lawl
#1413 [15:39] <Morrolan> ??~ support|Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://help.mojang.com/
#1414 [15:39] <Dragon_EX> .!kill Wugbot
#1415 [15:39] <Morrolan> ?? support
#1416 [15:39] <VoxelHead> support: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://help.mojang.com/
#1417 [15:39] * Morrolan pokes Grim_Reaper
#1417 [15:39] <Grim_Reaper> Yay \o/
#1418 [15:40] <Marc_IRL> awkward double space between Mojang and directly :p
#1419 [15:41] <Grim_Reaper> We do that cause it's cool ~
#1420 [15:41] <Calinou> Marc_IRL, hay bales pl0x
#1421 [15:41] <Calinou> again :P
#1422 [15:41] <Calinou> (
#1423 [15:41] <Boreeas> )
#1424 [15:42] <Calinou> wtf... enter key, i am disappoint
#1425 [15:42] <Morrolan> ??~ support|Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://help.mojang.com/
#1426 [15:42] <Marc_IRL> Calinou: I'm not a developer.
#1427 [15:42] <TheNytangel> 8 minutes
#1428 [15:42] <Calinou> I know :P
#1429 [15:42] <Marc_IRL> Also, the word pl0x should be burned in a firey hell
#1430 [15:42] <Marc_IRL> It's right up there with "dafuq"
#1431 [15:42] <Boreeas> And liek
#1432 [15:42] <Morrolan> y u think so?
#1433 [15:42] <TheNytangel> *hides*
#1434 [15:42] <Morrolan> *ahum*
#1435 [15:42] <Boreeas> b3¢4ü$3 ıŧ'$ ||øŧ |_33ŧ
#1436 [15:42] <Morrolan> Haha.
#1437 [15:43] <Morrolan> That ain't l33t, that's Facebook, Boreeas. ;D
#1438 [15:43] <Marc_IRL> I have powers to kick people now, right? Right??
#1439 [15:43] <Boreeas> :<
#1440 [15:43] <ShaRose> dafuq mang tahts liek ttly laem. plz stoap pl0x
#1441 [15:43] <ShaRose> :V
#1442 [15:43] <Marc_IRL> BAN
#1443 [15:43] <Marc_IRL> >.>
#1444 [15:43] <ShaRose> I hope that was as big a pain to read as it was to type
#1445 [15:43] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1446 [15:43] <Calinou> Marc_IRL, /ban *!*@*!*
#1447 [15:43] <Calinou> do it nao
#1448 [15:43] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: Sadly, I read it with no trouble
#1449 [15:43] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: Just type /kick Marc_IRL <nick>
#1450 [15:43] <Grim_Reaper> [21:43] <@Marc_IRL> I have powers to kick people now, right? Right??
#1451 [15:43] <ShaRose> D
#1452 [15:43] <Dragon_EX> >.<
#1453 [15:43] <Grim_Reaper> With great power, comes great responsibility
#1454 [15:44] * davidmshein [davidmshein@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1455 [15:44] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL HE MEANS YES DO IT DO IT NOW
#1456 [15:44] <Calinou> Boreeas, olol
#1457 [15:44] <Calinou> this channel becomes #minecraft sometimes
#1458 [15:44] <Marc_IRL> I see what you did there
#1459 [15:44] * Morrolan looks around
#1459 [15:44] * Marc_IRL kicked Boreeas from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oreeas :Boreeas)
#1460 [15:44] <Grim_Reaper> :|
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#1462 [15:44] <Grim_Reaper> Poor Boreeas x_x
#1463 [15:44] <Marc_IRL> haha
#1464 [15:44] <Boreeas> :<
#1465 [15:44] <Marc_IRL> I was like, WAAAAAAIT
#1466 [15:44] <Boreeas> !kick Marc_IRL Meany :(
#1467 [15:44] * AuBot kicked Marc_IRL from #minecrafthelp (Reason: arc_IRL :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by Boreeas with reason: Meany :())
#1468 [15:44] <Morrolan> Calinou - I don't see anyone talking about how miserable their life is though. So not yet #minecraft :D
#1469 [15:44] <Grim_Reaper> This has totally.. turned into a warzone :|
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#1471 [15:44] <ShaRose> he's not coming back
#1472 [15:45] <Boreeas> He is
#1473 [15:45] <ShaRose> fuckj
#1474 [15:45] * AuBot kicked ShaRose from #minecrafthelp (Reason: haRose :Please keep it civil.)
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#1476 [15:45] * Morrolan hides behind AuBot
#1476 [15:45] <Morrolan> Protect me, AuBot. :(
#1477 [15:45] <ShaRose> :V
#1478 [15:45] * Grim_Reaper hides on Morrolan's head
#1478 [15:45] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: Sorry, just had to :P
#1479 [15:45] <Marc_IRL> I wish I could just Powertool Lightning in here
#1480 [15:45] <TheNytangel> I sucked too hard on my waterbottle and it had water in it.. and I choked
#1481 [15:45] <Marc_IRL> pew pew pew
#1482 [15:45] <davidmshein> Hi Trying to run classic minecraft in browser for my son who wants to try it. Tried it both on a Mac and a linux box with no luck. Get a black screen after Java is enabled.
#1483 [15:45] <Dragon_EX> lazerz
#1484 [15:45] <Grim_Reaper> lol Marc_IRL restarted IRC
#1485 [15:45] <Morrolan> You know, Marc_IRL, you can just "/join #channel". ;D
#1486 [15:45] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1487 [15:45] <Morrolan> No need to restart your client.
#1488 [15:46] <Marc_IRL> Whatever, don't make fun of me because I'm an IRC noob. I just hit refresh on the web client :p
#1489 [15:46] <Grim_Reaper> I still think marc should sell tissues that notch uses
#1490 [15:46] <Grim_Reaper> He could make some extra cash
#1491 [15:46] <Grim_Reaper> There is bound to be some weird people who will buy that
#1492 [15:47] <Morrolan> Uhu, and some might even sue if they get sick afterwards.
#1493 [15:47] <TheNytangel> Grim_Reaper: people at Jynx
#1494 [15:47] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan thats why he can give a warning about that
#1495 [15:47] <Morrolan> Ah, right. "Warning: Dried snot might make you sick! (Why did you even BUY it? D:)"
#1496 [15:48] <Morrolan> I can totally see this business flourishing. :)
#1497 [15:48] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1498 [15:48] <TheNytangel> "We are not responsible for any injuries or sicknesses"
#1499 [15:48] <Marc_IRL> You guys are gross
#1500 [15:48] <Grim_Reaper> "Used Notch Tissues" $2.99
#1501 [15:48] <TheNytangel> Plus shipping
#1502 [15:48] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL it happens when you are forced to stay in a help channel
#1503 [15:48] <Grim_Reaper> It gets to you
#1504 [15:48] <Morrolan> You're just prude. D:
#1505 [15:48] <Grim_Reaper> It's like.. cabbin fever.. But worse
#1506 [15:48] <TheNytangel> But wait! That's not all! You can get another one for half price!
#1507 [15:49] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#1508 [15:49] <Grim_Reaper> TheNytangel knows how to bargin
#1509 [15:49] <TheNytangel> Oh, look at that. My files are done copying onto my sister's external hard drive
#1510 [15:49] <Morrolan> It totally is time for some sexist pictures: http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbs3p9Bjn31qdvr7qo1_400.jpg
#1511 [15:49] <Dragon_EX> wtf
#1512 [15:49] <Boreeas> Wat
#1513 [15:49] <Dragon_EX> sex addict
#1514 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> ...
#1515 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> Oh my word..
#1516 [15:50] <Morrolan> "sexist", not "sexy", Dragon_EX.
#1517 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan.. that is like...
#1518 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> I dont know what to say o.o
#1519 [15:50] <Boreeas> ^
#1520 [15:50] <Grim_Reaper> I dont know what to think of it either o.o
#1521 [15:51] <Morrolan> Maybe it wasn't exactly the best topic to switch to, when trying to move away from the gross ones, but heck.
#1522 [15:51] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#1523 [15:51] <Morrolan> Surely is more hygienic than snot
#1524 [15:51] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1525 [15:51] <davidmshein> Not much
#1526 [15:52] <Boreeas> davidmshein: Regarding your problem: I'm afraid you will have a hard time finding help for MC Classis
#1527 [15:52] <Morrolan> I'm sure there's some great idiom about "Little steps bringing you closer to your goal as well", davidmshein. :D
#1528 [15:52] <Boreeas> davidmshein: Did you ever try the WoM launcher?
#1529 [15:52] <davidmshein> Are there known issues with the classic browser versions of Minecraft running on mac or linux?
#1530 [15:52] <Morrolan> Yea, most people here aren't really familiar with classic. All the advice I can offer is trying to clean your temp folder.
#1531 [15:53] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1532 [15:53] <davidmshein> No, IDK about that WoM launcher?
#1533 [15:54] <Morrolan> http://www.worldofminecraft.com/Downloads -> World of Minecraft game client.
#1534 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> ..
#1535 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> Not sure if want world of minecraft
#1536 [15:54] <Morrolan> Alternative Classic client.
#1537 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> Oh
#1538 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> I'll pass on classic
#1539 [15:54] <Boreeas> It was a great standalone before the split. Not sure how it is now
#1540 [15:54] <Grim_Reaper> I left those parts long ago.. in the the old days
#1541 [15:54] <Morrolan> I never even played Classic. :)
#1542 [15:54] <Boreeas> Classic was awesome
#1543 [15:54] <davidmshein> Issue is I want my son to try b4 he buys, and we have linux and mac boxes here.
#1544 [15:55] <davidmshein> I appreciate that you guys are here for noobs. Thank you.
#1545 [15:55] <Morrolan> If my memory serves me right there will be a multi-platform demo of the current version with the next update.
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#1547 [15:56] <Grim_Reaper> This my face when I see classic mc now. http://i.imgur.com/dQZvZ.png
#1548 [15:56] <davidmshein> thanks much Morrolan
#1549 [15:56] <Morrolan> So seeing as how the current version is VERY different from Minecraft Classic, both code-wise as well as gameplay-wise, you could also wait for the next update and try that demo version. :)
#1550 [15:56] <Boreeas> Grim_Reaper: No hate on Classic allowed!
#1551 [15:56] <Grim_Reaper> I dont hate it :p
#1552 [15:56] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah I recommend waiting for the demo verson davidmshein
#1553 [15:57] <Grim_Reaper> Classic is.. very feature scarce compared to survival
#1554 [15:57] <davidmshein> New release due when?
#1555 [15:57] <Eddie> When it's due.
#1556 [15:57] <Grim_Reaper> Not too sure on dates sadly
#1557 [15:57] <Grim_Reaper> We never do know
#1558 [15:57] <Kealper> that is amazing how consistent that crash is
#1559 [15:57] <Grim_Reaper> Plus we aren't mojang
#1560 [15:57] <Grim_Reaper> Kealper must be something specific then..
#1561 [15:57] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL is
#1562 [15:58] <Marc_IRL> Heard my name. What now?
#1563 [15:58] <Boreeas> Oh, sorry, forgot to escape your name :/
#1564 [15:58] <Marc_IRL> Something about a demo mode?
#1565 [15:59] <Boreeas> We were just talking that we can't tell them when the next release is scheduled to come out
#1566 [15:59] <Marc_IRL> Demo mode is coming out in the next update, I'm told. Actually, there's already some demo code in there, it's just not active.
#1567 [15:59] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#1568 [15:59] <Kealper> Grim_Reaper: and i can't pin down what it is... i've tried rolling back to 32-bit Java 6, the video drivers are fine (they're recent ones from nvidia.com), the computer's hardware seems to be running not too hot, etc....
#1569 [15:59] <Grim_Reaper> Now you're going to force people to start searching for that marc
#1570 [15:59] <Marc_IRL> But you can't see Minecraft source code :P
#1571 [15:59] <Grim_Reaper> Kealper could it not be vista or something itself?
#1572 [15:59] <Grim_Reaper> Oh it's in the source code?
#1573 [15:59] <Grim_Reaper> then nvm
#1574 [15:59] <Marc_IRL> I'm hoping the next release is this summer. It just depends when the guys are done with the modding APIs and everything else.
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#1576 [16:00] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL actually, we do
#1577 [16:00] <ShaRose> :P
#1578 [16:00] <Kealper> t1b3r1um_tr00per: well, that's amazingly consistent
#1579 [16:00] <ShaRose> how do you think people mod
#1580 [16:01] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL by the sounds of it, maybe we might get the mod api this next release :o
#1581 [16:01] <TheNytangel> Just decompile the code...
#1582 [16:01] <Grim_Reaper> Not that I have use for the mod api
#1583 [16:01] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Indeed
#1584 [16:01] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: I think that's correct
#1585 [16:02] <Boreeas> Grim_Reaper: That's what they said in #bukkitdev, too
#1586 [16:02] <Grim_Reaper> I wont hold your word to it though :p
#1587 [16:05] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/P1lof.gif lold
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#1595 [16:15] <h> My keyboard looks like this: http://aoeu.info/s/dvorak/images/svorak-A5.png
#1596 [16:15] <h> And I can't steer with the åäö buttons.
#1597 [16:16] <h> I... don't know what to do.
#1598 [16:16] <Boreeas> Did you set them in the menu?
#1599 [16:19] <h> Yes. Minecraft doesn't support using those buttons for action input or how I'm supposed to put it.
#1600 [16:19] <Boreeas> You can try to manually set them in the configuration file, but you will need to know the key codes for those letters.
#1601 [16:20] <h> Very well, I'll try that.
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#1603 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> *crickets*
#1604 [16:21] <Boreeas> Welcome back
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#1606 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> Hello Iguana
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#1608 [16:23] <Guest> hello?
#1609 [16:24] <lutzee> hey
#1610 [16:24] <Grim_Reaper> Hello Guest
#1611 [16:24] <Juze> [23:22] <Guest> im trying to purchase minecraft and it wont work
#1612 [16:24] <Guest> i cant purchase minecraft
#1613 [16:24] <Juze> Also, /nick newname
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#1615 [16:24] <TheNytangel> Pfft
#1616 [16:24] <Grim_Reaper> Care to elaborate ir132794?
#1617 [16:25] <ballmonkey> my minecraft gets blue screen after about a hour of play
#1618 [16:25] <ir132794> im trying to use a visa ift card
#1619 [16:25] <ir132794> gift
#1620 [16:25] <Juze> ballmonkey: Likely your PC overheating, I'd say
#1621 [16:25] <Scott> ir132794: You will have to call the number on the back of the card and tell them you want to make an online international purchase.
#1622 [16:25] <ballmonkey> thanks
#1623 [16:25] <Scott> If your PC is overheating, it would just shut off
#1624 [16:25] <ir132794> and i clicked purchase and went through the process.and it wanted me to sign in with moneybookers
#1625 [16:25] <Scott> Not BSoD.
#1626 [16:26] <Juze> That's true too
#1627 [16:26] <Juze> HDD/GPU overheating or GPU running at too high clocks may do it though
#1628 [16:26] <ir132794> and i signed in with moneybookers and it said my card cant be used for 24 hours or something
#1629 [16:26] <Scott> ir132794: then wait 24 hours or use Paypal
#1630 [16:27] <ir132794> i did that yesterday.im trying again today and it said that again
#1631 [16:27] <ir132794> how do i use paypal?
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#1633 [16:27] <Juze> Register, link your card to it, done
#1634 [16:28] <Juze> Or use guest payment
#1635 [16:28] <ir132794> hmm...
#1636 [16:28] <ir132794> do i have to wait 24 hours?
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#1638 [16:29] <ir132794> if i use paypal do i have to wait 24 hours?
#1639 [16:29] <lutzee> no
#1640 [16:29] <ir132794> ok
#1641 [16:29] <ir132794> ill try that then
#1642 [16:29] <ir132794> thanks
#1643 [16:34] <h> Figured it out sort of on my own and I had to switch back to WASD, but thanks anyway!
#1644 [16:34] <h> Figured it out sort of on my own and I had to switch back to WASD, but thanks anyway!
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#1650 [16:44] <Crepes> Is it possible to power an 8x4 block of pistons that are all facing downwards?
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#1653 [16:47] <Marc_IRL> If someone came in here and said that they had that "bad video card drivers" error, what would you guys tell them? I get that question all of the time.
#1654 [16:47] <Juze> > update drivers
#1655 [16:47] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1656 [16:47] <Juze> > update Java
#1657 [16:47] <Grim_Reaper> That too
#1658 [16:48] <Juze> If none of that works, graphics card is not supported and kindly gtfo :)
#1659 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> Easy there..
#1660 [16:48] <Marc_IRL> I get emails like "We have the bad video card error, and we have spent hours trying to fix it, have updated our drivers and java, and it still won't work"
#1661 [16:48] <Juze> > get a new graphics card/computer
#1662 [16:48] <Grim_Reaper> The best thing to do next Marc_IRL
#1663 [16:48] <Morrolan> Could also ask them whether they've even got a dedicated graphics card before bothering with telling them to update drivers. *shrug*
#1664 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> Is to have them do this
#1665 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/dxdiag
#1666 [16:49] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1667 [16:49] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1668 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> And see if their video card is supported
#1669 [16:49] <Marc_IRL> Juze: Yeah, YOU can tell them that, but I can't :p
#1670 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> With bad video drivers, generally yes, you would recommend them grab the latest video drivers from their manufacturer's website. If they don't know what it is, is to determine what video card they have, and see if you can figure out if it can run minecraft
#1671 [16:49] <Morrolan> Oh, regarding updating drivers - A number of people use Windows' update functionality.
#1672 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1673 [16:49] <Juze> ^^
#1674 [16:49] <Morrolan> Which, to say it with a silly voice: "Is no workie!"
#1675 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> And they also think it updates their graphics drivers
#1676 [16:50] <Juze> Also, funnily enough, Windows Update servers some weird updates for screens you're using too
#1677 [16:50] <Juze> serves*
#1678 [16:50] <Marc_IRL> I think that's probably the most common tech support question that I get. I wonder if there's a good article out there, maybe on the Minecraft wiki or forums.
#1679 [16:50] <Marc_IRL> Because I think I might want to address it directly.
#1680 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL, the best thing I can suggest..
#1681 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> Is we could maybe write up a guide of the things we try
#1682 [16:50] <Juze> Most people think this is the Mojang support chat
#1683 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> And give it to you
#1684 [16:51] <Grim_Reaper> And if you like, you can put it up on the site
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#1686 [16:51] <Juze> Also, we actually get a lot of users asking questions on #minecraftforums because they think that's the support channel too
#1687 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> It would result in, "TL;DR, help me now" posts
#1688 [16:51] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1689 [16:51] <Grim_Reaper> Perhaps not GreyVulpine
#1690 [16:51] <Grim_Reaper> Some people are willing to read some steps
#1691 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> How many people read the /topic when we put up an announcement there?
#1692 [16:52] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Those people tend to find the manufacturer's website themselves though. :)
#1693 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> True :|
#1694 [16:52] <Morrolan> "Hey, here is a guide!" "Well, thanks, but I fixed it myself already"
#1695 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1696 [16:52] <Marc_IRL> Do people -really- think this is a Mojang chat? Because I think in both places that it's linked, we say it's not.
#1697 [16:52] <Morrolan> vs "Hey, there is a guide!" "What do I do?"
#1698 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL some people think so
#1699 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Not too long ago, I was PMed a credit card number, because they thought I could look it up for them
#1700 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> &
#1701 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1702 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> yeah that made me lol
#1703 [16:53] <Morrolan> Oh, so that's why youv'e got those shiny new boots. :)
#1704 [16:53] <Marc_IRL> :D
#1705 [16:53] <Morrolan> you've*
#1706 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> ;3
#1707 [16:53] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1707 [16:53] <Juze> Marc_IRL: About 10% of people come from MinecraftForums
#1708 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> I think somebody pmed me their username and password once
#1709 [16:53] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, well, on the help page I created a few days ago, I said to not do that
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#1711 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> It was caused me great sadness that they would be so trusting
#1712 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> So yes, on quite a few occasions, we've had to remind people that this chat is staffed by community volunteers, and not Mojang proper
#1713 [16:54] <Juze> It's also that 90% of users here use webchat
#1714 [16:54] <Juze> And the 10% don't know what IRC is or how to use it
#1715 [16:54] <Juze> And the rest is IRC clients
#1716 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1717 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> I use the webchat. IRC is ooooold.
#1718 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> I just have a bookmark in my browser.
#1719 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> We should totally do a user clear on here lol
#1720 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> And see who the real helpers are D:
#1721 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL, mIRC ftw
#1722 [16:54] <GreyVulpine> I've done that a number of years back, and got yelled for it
#1723 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine how sad
#1724 [16:54] <Juze> Would need protectmode, which is not enabled on Esper.
#1725 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> I've used that in the past, but I don't feel like launching yet another program.
#1726 [16:55] <Juze> Irssi
#1727 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> My entire job can be done in Chrome, so I use that for mostly everything
#1728 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> I prefer firefox :|
#1729 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> Cool story :p
#1730 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> + theres that irc addon if you REALLY want to use it
#1731 [16:56] <Marc_IRL> Chatzilla?
#1732 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> mhm
#1733 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> I've tried it. It's ok. Nothing special =\
#1734 [16:56] <Marc_IRL> I've used it before. I'm fine with bookmarking web clients.
#1735 [16:56] <Juze> Prefer webchat over ChatZilla
#1736 [16:56] <Marc_IRL> Especially because I'm using it the same way I tell customers to
#1737 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> But since Im connected to IRC all the time as much as possible. I prefer mIRC
#1738 [16:56] <Marc_IRL> And I'm not gonna tell customers to go download programs and stuff
#1739 [16:57] <Grim_Reaper> mhm
#1740 [16:57] <Juze> 5 IRC networks open, 26 channel windows open
#1741 [16:57] <Juze> At minimal
#1742 [16:57] <Juze> Usually have 2 more networks open and another 20 channels open
#1743 [16:57] <Boreeas> Grim_Reaper: How dare you
#1744 [16:57] <Boreeas> Chatzilla is awesome!
#1745 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> 5 networks, 33 channels
#1746 [16:58] <Grim_Reaper> Boreeas ;-;
#1747 [16:58] <Juze> I used to be on 30 channels on Esper
#1748 [16:58] <Juze> Then I left them
#1749 [16:58] <Boreeas> 6 networks, 33 channels
#1750 [16:59] <Morrolan> 4 networks, 40 channels on Esper alone.
#1751 [16:59] <Marc_IRL> 1 is more than enough for me and my ADD :p
#1752 [16:59] <Morrolan> Oh, I always thought one would be enough as well.
#1753 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> I used to be on 5 networks,
#1754 [17:00] <Morrolan> Until I needed something from a different channel, and got stuck there.
#1755 [17:00] <Grim_Reaper> And all together.. probably 60ish channels
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#1757 [17:00] <peeves> does someone know how i could make it possible to allow players to use crafting tables within a worldguard/region protected area?
#1758 [17:00] <Juze> Morrolan: You can only have 30 channels per user on a server, you have two users on Esper? :P
#1759 [17:00] <Morrolan> You're so old-fashioned, Juze. :D
#1760 [17:00] <peeves> without allowing them to destroy them.... they have the problem to be not able to use them ( no permissions )
#1761 [17:00] <Morrolan> Channel limit got raised AAAGES ago. :)
#1762 [17:00] <Juze> It was still 30 like, a few months ago ;_;
#1763 [17:00] <Morrolan> peeves - The "use" flag?
#1764 [17:01] <Juze> And it wasn't going to be raised from anywhere
#1765 [17:01] <Morrolan> Juze - Yea, I think it got raised three months ago or so. :)
#1766 [17:01] <peeves> please tell me more about use flag or link it pls... dont know about it
#1767 [17:01] <peeves> i am rly fresh with that
#1768 [17:01] <Morrolan> "/region flag <region> <flag> <value>" is the syntax.
#1769 [17:01] <Morrolan> e.g. "/region flag my_awesome_region use allow" would allow people to use stuff in that region.
#1770 [17:01] <peeves> ok so i need to set /region flag town use true ???
#1771 [17:01] <Morrolan> Most likely includes usage of Crafting Tables.
#1772 [17:02] <peeves> ah, allow, ok thank you vry much!!! feel kissed :)
#1773 [17:02] <peeves> ill test it out
#1774 [17:02] <Morrolan> Also, http://wiki.sk89q.com/wiki/Main_Page is a great resource. :)
#1775 [17:02] <peeves> thanks
#1776 [17:02] <Morrolan> Respectively #sk89q , if you prefer IRC.
#1777 [17:02] <Juze> I don't play Minecraft, was that a Bukkit related question or was WorldEdit implemented in Minecraft recently? o_o
#1778 [17:03] <Morrolan> Bukkit.
#1779 [17:03] <Juze> And yeah, #bukkit too
#1780 [17:03] <Juze> Think #worldedit also has some people
#1781 [17:03] <Morrolan> That's like telling him to join #channel
#1782 [17:03] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1783 [17:03] <Boreeas> # all the way
#1784 [17:03] <Morrolan> All of sk98q's channels were deprecated in favor of #sk89q, Juze. :)
#1785 [17:03] <Juze> > implying I use IRC
#1786 [17:04] <Juze> But thanks for telling me :P
#1787 [17:04] <ShaRose> Juze / GreyVulpine 15 networks, 68 channels
#1788 [17:04] <ShaRose> suck it
#1789 [17:04] <CrusaderDeleters> bore, #alltheway?
#1790 [17:04] <Juze> Who needs 15 networks, lol?
#1791 [17:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh yeah?
#1792 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Good.. god
#1793 [17:04] <Morrolan> Oh, yea, don't join #channel, btw.
#1794 [17:04] <CrusaderDeleters> 1 network, 2 hannels.
#1795 [17:04] <Morrolan> Just in case you didn't know.
#1796 [17:04] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan why D:
#1797 [17:05] * ShaRose makes a giant smugface
#1797 [17:05] <Juze> #wom
#1798 [17:05] <Juze> How convinient
#1799 [17:05] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Fastest way out of Esper.
#1800 [17:05] <Grim_Reaper> D:
#1801 [17:05] <Grim_Reaper> Im tempted to join it x_X
#1802 [17:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Morro
#1803 [17:05] <Morrolan> Will net you a 30-minutes (or 15, or whatever) ban.
#1804 [17:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I joined the channel.
#1805 [17:05] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1806 [17:05] <CrusaderDeleters> It only kicked me.
#1807 [17:05] <Morrolan> Oh, how convenient.
#1808 [17:05] <Morrolan> Used to ban you for a while.
#1809 [17:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#1810 [17:06] <Morrolan> Or maybe that was a different channel I'm thinking about.
#1811 [17:06] <CrusaderDeleters> #channelchannel?
#1812 [17:06] <Morrolan> Either way, whatever CraftIRC's default channel was, an auto-ban was placed on it to prevent all the barely-configured bots from joining.
#1813 [17:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#1814 [17:07] <Juze> Yeah, lol
#1815 [17:07] <Juze> Also, #gtfo is a nice one
#1816 [17:07] <Juze> Especially those with auto-rejoins
#1817 [17:07] <peeves> Morrolan , it dosnt work :(
#1818 [17:07] <peeves> Furcane still tells same error
#1819 [17:07] <Grim_Reaper> #gtfo got me once ;-;
#1820 [17:07] <peeves> "You dont have permission to open that in this area
#1821 [17:07] <Grim_Reaper> And I have autorejoin
#1822 [17:08] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1823 [17:08] <peeves> even the browing table
#1824 [17:08] <Grim_Reaper> It.. was not a fun day
#1825 [17:08] <peeves> same error
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#1827 [17:08] <Grim_Reaper> Im not sure about the syntax for the world gaurd command sadly
#1828 [17:09] <peeves> the strange point is that the ench. table works, even one other but the browing and the furcane not...
#1829 [17:09] <CrusaderDeleters> #no?
#1830 [17:09] <ir132794> i still cant purchase minecraft.i tried using paypal but it didnt work
#1831 [17:11] <ir132794> can anyone help?
#1832 [17:11] <Juze> Wait 24 hours...
#1833 [17:11] <peeves> so does someone know why (worldguard protected area) players cant use furcane and browing table? i used flag " /region flag my_awesome_region use allow " but still dosnt work
#1834 [17:11] <ir132794> dang....
#1835 [17:12] <ir132794> this sucks.why wont it just work?
#1836 [17:12] <Juze> Make sure the region name is correct too
#1837 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> Dont you.. have to specify what groups are allowed?
#1838 [17:12] <peeves> the regio name is correct, and i even checked if flag works with " /region info "
#1839 [17:12] <peeves> all fine but the players still cant use it
#1840 [17:12] <peeves> how should i define the groups within the flag?
#1841 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> My guess is you need to specify which usergroups are allowed
#1842 [17:13] <peeves> how?
#1843 [17:13] <ir132794> so how can i purchase minecraft right now?
#1844 [17:13] <Grim_Reaper> Though I dont ever use world guard so I cant be sure
#1845 [17:13] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbBubEkg85E&feature=etp-pv-ner-34
#1846 [17:13] <peeves> normal flags dont needs a group
#1847 [17:14] <ir132794> im tired of not being able to purchase it.how can i buy it now?
#1848 [17:14] <peeves> send me $ 1.000 to my card 38284574 , 393 and be happy with your brand new acc :p and pls pssst now :)
#1849 [17:14] <ir132794> mmmm.no
#1850 [17:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Yai! Mythbusters win!
#1851 [17:15] <peeves> pls guys, nobody arround with worldguard knowledge?!
#1852 [17:16] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan ?
#1853 [17:16] <peeves> he isnt inside the chan anymore :(
#1854 [17:16] <peeves> else i would ask him
#1855 [17:16] <Morrolan> I am.
#1856 [17:16] <peeves> oh
#1857 [17:16] <peeves> no idea Morrolan?
#1858 [17:16] <Morrolan> Err, any overlapping regions?
#1859 [17:16] <peeves> yes ofc
#1860 [17:16] <peeves> there is the "big-town"
#1861 [17:16] <peeves> and the "witchroom"
#1862 [17:17] <peeves> so i would need to set priority higher then the town?
#1863 [17:17] <Morrolan> Then you might have to either work with parent-child relations, set the flag in every region the crafing bench is in or increase the priority, yea.
#1864 [17:17] <Morrolan> Mind you though, priorities can be rather dangerous.
#1865 [17:17] <peeves> ok ok :D
#1866 [17:17] <peeves> no ill try it out
#1867 [17:17] <peeves> one sec
#1868 [17:18] <peeves> hmmmmmmm no :(
#1869 [17:19] <peeves> dosnt help
#1870 [17:19] <peeves> the region have now priority 1 , the town priority 0
#1871 [17:19] <peeves> the flag for the priority 1 is "use allow"
#1872 [17:20] <peeves> but furcane and browing table still dosnt work
#1873 [17:20] <peeves> all other crafting tables works well
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#1875 [17:22] <peeves> Morrolan, i have an idea
#1876 [17:23] <peeves> the players dont have a "owner/user" flag on that building/region
#1877 [17:23] <peeves> does the rule effect only on players that are owners/users of the region?
#1878 [17:23] <Morrolan> No.
#1879 [17:23] <peeves> hmm then i dont understand it
#1880 [17:23] <Morrolan> Most flags apply to everyone.
#1881 [17:24] <peeves> yeh but i dont understandt it then
#1882 [17:24] <Morrolan> Check the wiki, ask in the channel I linked you to earlier etc, might be there are additional flags which are needed for brewing stands.
#1883 [17:24] <TheNytangel> I was flying my flight simulator in the basement, minding my own business, and all of a sudden, a bird was being an idiot and hits the window. It scared the crap out of me. >.>
#1884 [17:24] <peeves> why furcance and the browing table dosnt works
#1885 [17:25] <peeves> wich channel?
#1886 [17:25] <Morrolan> #sk89q
#1887 [17:25] <peeves> ok thanks
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#1889 [17:30] <zenon> hi
#1890 [17:32] <lutzee> hi
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#1892 [17:32] <peeves> nobody answeres inside this channel
#1893 [17:32] <peeves> dead...
#1894 [17:34] <Boreeas> Patience, young padawan
#1895 [17:34] <Morrolan> This is IRC; not your instant soup.
#1896 [17:34] <Morrolan> Err, instant help channel.
#1897 [17:34] <Marc_IRL> I see a pretty long discussion between you and a few people in here. I'm unsure how "nobody answers"...
#1898 [17:34] <Morrolan> I assume he's refering to #sk89q
#1899 [17:34] <Marc_IRL> Well then ignore me >.>
#1900 [17:34] <Morrolan> If you insist. :)
#1901 [17:35] <peeves> yes morrolan i know that it's not a instant soup :)
#1902 [17:35] <peeves> i'm just so depressed about that lame issue
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#1905 [17:39] <FJLXZh24> Hi can you help me
#1906 [17:40] * FJLXZh24_ [FJLXZh24_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1907 [17:40] <Boreeas> ??> FJLXZh24 ask
#1908 [17:41] <VoxelHead> FJLXZh24: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1909 [17:41] <VoxelHead> FJLXZh24: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1910 [17:41] <Boreeas> FJLXZh24: Also, please keep the clones out of here
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#1912 [17:42] <peeves> hmm i think this issue (that i have) cant be solved
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#1917 [18:04] <peeves> Morrolan, there?
#1918 [18:05] <peeves> i have the answere for the issue that i had
#1919 [18:05] <peeves> i found it out myself
#1920 [18:05] <Morrolan> Yea?
#1921 [18:05] <peeves> may you wanna know
#1922 [18:05] <Morrolan> Sure. :)
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#1924 [18:05] <peeves> that: /region flag Hexenkessel chest-access allow
#1925 [18:05] <peeves> is the answere
#1926 [18:05] <Morrolan> Oh, good to know. :)
#1927 [18:05] <peeves> the both (furcane, browing) is chest
#1928 [18:05] <peeves> why ever....
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#1930 [18:05] <peeves> but thats the answere :p
#1931 [18:05] <Morrolan> Thanks for letting me know. :)
#1932 [18:06] <peeves> no problem, rly hard to find out, braincrush thing
#1933 [18:06] <peeves> bec. it makes no sense, but well.. now i found it out haha
#1934 [18:07] <peeves> now it's time for bed :) thanks for your help and good night
#1935 [18:07] <Morrolan> night.
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#1937 [18:13] <jarrett1214> hi i purchased premeium membership and it has been and i cannot log in as a premium member yet, it has been more then an hour
#1938 [18:14] <CrusaderDeleters> What is your username?
#1939 [18:15] <jarrett1214> jarrett7693
#1940 [18:15] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid jarrett7693
#1941 [18:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Maybe your bank has not sent the money through to mojang.
#1942 [18:15] <jarrett1214> i have a recipt i printed out for it
#1943 [18:16] <CrusaderDeleters> You have the email? :o
#1944 [18:16] <Marc_IRL> A receipt number (Mojang UUID) does not neccesarily indicate a successful purchase http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1945 [18:16] <jarrett1214> no i printed the recipt after it said transaction complete
#1946 [18:16] <lutzee> jarrett1214, make sure the money has left your account, moneybookers may have blocked the payment on reasons for fraud (overseas payment(
#1947 [18:17] <CrusaderDeleters> [18:15] CrusaderDeleters Maybe your bank has not sent the money through to mojang.
#1948 [18:17] <jarrett1214> how long does that usually take
#1949 [18:17] <Marc_IRL> Also relevant: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1950 [18:17] <Gunslinger2> hey lutz, didnt get a chance to thank you for helping with that trap so thanks for doing that
#1951 [18:18] <jarrett1214> so i cant play minecraft for 3-5 days :{
#1952 [18:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Well
#1953 [18:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecraft mostly gives players around an hour at most.
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#1955 [18:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Try checking with your bank to see if the money ahas been sent.
#1956 [18:20] <Marc_IRL> Most transactions happen immediately, but some payment methods take longer. If you only have a receipt number and no confirmation email after a few hours, it's likely the payment failed. Also, as far as I know, it's not possible to upgrade the same account twice, so if you try to pay again, and you've already paid, it should fail.
#1957 [18:21] <jarrett1214> okay so its really just a matter of when it hits rather then a recipt actually saying its paid
#1958 [18:22] <Marc_IRL> If you have just a receipt number, and not a confirmation email with a transaction ID, I'm about 50% sure it failed. If after a day it's the same thing, I'm 95% sure it failed.
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#1960 [18:23] <Marc_IRL> I just like to give it a little time, since purchases have to go through all kinds of systems to actually work.
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#1962 [18:26] <CrusaderDeleters> You know what I don't get?
#1963 [18:26] <CrusaderDeleters> how obsessed people are with money.
#1964 [18:27] <jarrett1214_> is there any quicker ways to become a member quicker? cause i really wanna play the payed version, the free version is lame i have to restart every timne i quit out
#1965 [18:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Jar, Check wit hyour bank. c:
#1966 [18:29] <jarrett1214_> did it has come out as of 34 minutes ago
#1967 [18:29] <CrusaderDeleters> So the money was sent through?
#1968 [18:29] <jarrett1214_> according to first tech bank yes
#1969 [18:29] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid jarrett7693
#1970 [18:29] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid jarret7693
#1971 [18:29] <jarrett1214_> gahhhhhh
#1972 [18:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Did you buy a giftcode, and not premium itself?
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#1974 [18:30] <Marc_IRL> There are no gift codes on his account
#1975 [18:30] <jarrett1214_> no i bought the upgrade your account one
#1976 [18:30] <bcalkins17> why do my chunk update sload soo slow is this normal?
#1977 [18:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Kinda.
#1978 [18:30] <Marc_IRL> Some methods of payment just take a while to transmit. 95% percent of transactions are instantaneous, the rest are slow.
#1979 [18:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecraft uses it's processing for non-world chunk stuff first
#1980 [18:31] <CrusaderDeleters> It usually loads a number of chunks around you first though
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#1983 [18:31] <mib_swrz1x> i am the one with the crafting table problem from before
#1984 [18:31] <mib_swrz1x> are u still there?
#1985 [18:31] <Marc_IRL> The money is probably electronically in transit between your bank and Moneybookers, or Moneybookers and they Mojang account. Once the verification hits the Mojang account, the upgrade happens automatically.
#1986 [18:31] <bcalkins17> but if i sit still for like 10 minutes its fine but than when i moove like 4 feet i get another 60 chunk updates and my fps drops againe
#1987 [18:33] <mib_swrz1x> i have a new problem with pvp mode :( , i tryd to set pvp allow flag but it even dosnt work....., there is a main region (town) and then i have the pvp region inside this one, that one has priority 9 (town has 0), pvp is allowed but players arent able to kill each other..... u know why?
#1988 [18:33] <TheNytangel> bcalkins17: minecraft goes by meters
#1989 [18:33] <bcalkins17> oh well lol don't you get the point :)
#1990 [18:33] <TheNytangel> Yeah :P
#1991 [18:33] * TheNytangel goes back to doing homework
#1991 [18:34] <bcalkins17> so is there any fix?
#1992 [18:34] <bcalkins17> when i have no chunk updates i get 60 fps(locked)
#1993 [18:35] <mib_swrz1x> Morrolan ?
#1994 [18:36] <TheNytangel> Is away
#1995 [18:36] <TheNytangel> Hence the name.. Morrolan|Away
#1996 [18:37] <mib_swrz1x> does someone else have an idea?
#1997 [18:37] <mib_swrz1x> in front of my issue
#1998 [18:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Mib, is this with somethign not vanilla minecraft?
#1999 [18:40] <mib_swrz1x> no?!
#2000 [18:40] <mib_swrz1x> it's a worldguard question
#2001 [18:40] <TheNytangel> Bukkit
#2002 [18:41] <mib_swrz1x> and yes i know the other chan, but there is nobody
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#2004 [18:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Wrong place, still. c:
#2005 [18:41] <CrusaderDeleters> I though WorldGaurd had it's own irc
#2006 [18:42] <TheNytangel> its*
#2007 [18:42] <TheNytangel> :)
#2008 [18:42] <CrusaderDeleters> :c
#2009 [18:42] <TheNytangel> I always make that mistake
#2010 [18:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Common grammatical error mistake number 1: Their, they're and there.
#2011 [18:43] <CrusaderDeleters> 2: It's and its.
#2012 [18:43] <TheNytangel> 3. To and too, and maybe even two
#2013 [18:43] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah
#2014 [18:44] <CrusaderDeleters> There's to much sun! Wrong.
#2015 [18:44] <CrusaderDeleters> I had two much time.
#2016 [18:44] <CrusaderDeleters> We are going too the beach.
#2017 [18:44] <TheNytangel> Two is not usually mistaken though, but to and too on the other hand....
#2018 [18:45] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm going to hate gravel in 1.3 :I
#2019 [18:45] <Devin> And your, you're
#2020 [18:46] <TheNytangel> ^
#2021 [18:46] <CrusaderDeleters> I hate it when people use the wrong punctuation?
#2022 [18:46] <Devin> There's so many more I hate too. ._.
#2023 [18:46] <TheNytangel> Dumb people on Facebook obviously didn't learn a thing in elementary school
#2024 [18:46] <Devin> CrusaderDeleters, my fault there
#2025 [18:46] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: no you don't
#2026 [18:46] <TheNytangel> :P
#2027 [18:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#2028 [18:47] <CrusaderDeleters> lol i go eet bru, i cum bak l8r
#2029 [18:47] <CrusaderDeleters> There were a couple that I barely understood.
#2030 [18:47] <TheNytangel> You mean.. bbl
#2031 [18:47] <CrusaderDeleters> "They think it be like it is, but it do."
#2032 [18:48] <CrusaderDeleters> I hate that too.
#2033 [18:48] <Devin> They don't think*
#2034 [18:48] <TheNytangel> .........I hate double negatives (I'm not saying that is one, it isn't, but I hate double negatives)
#2035 [18:48] <Devin> Whut.
#2036 [18:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Never not sleep?
#2037 [18:48] <TheNytangel> No
#2038 [18:48] <TheNytangel> That means always sleep
#2039 [18:48] <CrusaderDeleters> It's like taking -(-(1))
#2040 [18:48] <TheNytangel> I think.......
#2041 [18:48] <Devin> I can't cant
#2042 [18:49] <TheNytangel> Devin: apostraphes
#2043 [18:49] <Devin> Whoops!
#2044 [18:49] <CrusaderDeleters> TheNytangle: Punctuation.
#2045 [18:49] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: spelling
#2046 [18:50] * Devin laughs at all of this.
#2046 [18:50] <Devin> Nobody cares, everyone makes mistakes. :P
#2047 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> My spelling is doing fairly well. c:
#2048 [18:50] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: you spelled my name wrong, and I don't usually use punctuation if I'm only typing one sentence
#2049 [18:50] <TheNytangel> Unless it's in the sentence
#2050 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh.
#2051 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> angEL
#2052 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> not angLE
#2053 [18:50] <Devin> Not angLE
#2054 [18:50] <TheNytangel> I'm very obtuse
#2055 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Stupidest move Mojang ever made?
#2056 [18:51] <Devin> Hunger?
#2057 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Pushing modding api even more.
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#2059 [18:51] <Devin> How so?
#2060 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Really, let the people code what they want.
#2061 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> I feel like players could make the tradign system a lot better
#2062 [18:51] <Devin> Oh.
#2063 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> add their own acheivements
#2064 [18:51] <Devin> Yes, they could.
#2065 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> everything else.
#2066 [18:52] <CrusaderDeleters> It expands minecraft's gameplay horizon greatly.
#2067 [18:52] <CrusaderDeleters> And they add cocobean plants, and emerald ore. And trading. I could two the ore instantly.
#2068 [18:52] <CrusaderDeleters> two. :I Really?
#2069 [18:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Mojang pushed the modding api like 5 times, no?
#2070 [18:53] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.7, 1.8, 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4
#2071 [18:54] <CrusaderDeleters> no, pushed 7.
#2072 [18:54] <Devin> 1.4?
#2073 [18:54] <TheNytangel> 72.976
#2074 [18:54] <CrusaderDeleters> They moved it from next update to 1.4
#2075 [18:54] <Devin> Og.
#2076 [18:54] <Devin> Oh*
#2077 [18:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Jeeze, Jebs is being one of the stupidest people right now, hate to say. :L
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#2079 [18:55] <TheNytangel> Not sure, but I think it should be most stupid
#2080 [18:56] <CrusaderDeleters> XD You and grammar.
#2081 [18:56] <TheNytangel> I was going to mention it last time you said that
#2082 [18:56] <TheNytangel> But I was doing the last question of my homework
#2083 [18:57] <mickster04> what's jebs doing?
#2084 [18:57] <CrusaderDeleters> He pushed the api once again.
#2085 [18:57] <Devin> does any popular modder actually want the api?
#2086 [18:58] <CrusaderDeleters> I know I do.
#2087 [18:58] <Devin> Then why is it bad that he push it?
#2088 [18:58] <CrusaderDeleters> I hate trying to use MCP to illegal crack open minecraft.
#2089 [18:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, because, it makes modding easier, faster, and lighter.
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#2091 [19:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Check out this for a "I need help, there's glitches!"
#2092 [19:02] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.gamezgalaxy.com/forum/topic/1725-glitch/
#2093 [19:03] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2094 [19:09] <prrye> Any Danish Minecraft players here? please /w me if so
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#2097 [19:12] <Guest67441> Okay I need help with a problem on my server
#2098 [19:12] <Guest67441> I own a bukkit server and
#2099 [19:12] <TheNytangel> Bukkit
#2100 [19:13] <zchan> I need help, I have a typo in my email and cannot find transaction ID for my minecraft account.
#2101 [19:13] <ub> lol
#2102 [19:13] <TheNytangel> PFft
#2103 [19:13] <TheNytangel> Wow
#2104 [19:13] <Guest67441> Whenever me and my friends are on it disconnects and on the server cmd it says all this information and says "Caused by: java.lang.Nullpointerexception"
#2105 [19:13] <TheNytangel> You can't leave 9 seconds after you ask a question..
#2106 [19:13] <Guest67441> LOL
#2107 [19:14] <lutzee> Guest67441, can you copy the whole error to pastebin.com and post the link here?
#2108 [19:14] <Guest67441> Yes
#2109 [19:15] <Guest67441> Wait, how do I copy it, whenever I right click and select all I try to copy it and then the selection goes away
#2110 [19:15] <lutzee> just press enter if the window is a cmd window
#2111 [19:15] <lutzee> that should copy it
#2112 [19:17] <Guest67441> Kk, ty,
#2113 [19:18] <Guest67441> http://pastebin.com/8YNJma6n
#2114 [19:18] <Guest67441> There
#2115 [19:19] <Guest67441> And if you want to know the server ip, just know it crashes like every few minutes; 71.68.120.102
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#2118 [19:26] <Guest67441> Hello?
#2119 [19:31] <Guest67441> Umm do you know what to do about it?
#2120 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> It's a bukkit plugin issue
#2121 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're using the most up-to-date version of whatever plugin.
#2122 [19:34] <Guest67441> Hmm
#2123 [19:34] <Guest67441> Thanks, I'll go see if I don't have any plugins not up to date. Thanks!
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#2125 [19:45] <Guest67441> It's still happening...
#2126 [19:45] <GreyVulpine> Try asking in #bukkit
#2127 [19:46] <Guest67441> k
#2128 [19:46] <Guest67441> Thanks for trying
#2129 [19:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Imma help him out.
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#2131 [19:50] <KakarotKY> I have a problem loading/updating the game. I don't know what to do. Can someone help me?
#2132 [19:50] <Devin> What's the problem?
#2133 [19:51] <KakarotKY> I just bought the game and downloaded it. When I go to login, it starts to update. After so long it goes white and nothing happens. With some help from another IRC MC channel, it has updated but when I go to login it stays white.
#2134 [19:52] <TheNytangel> Holy hail
#2135 [19:52] <KakarotKY> It says "Done loading"
#2136 [19:52] <CrusaderDeleters> !errortest
#2137 [19:52] <CrusaderDeleters> ...
#2138 [19:52] <TheNytangel> ?? errortest
#2139 [19:52] <KakarotKY> Already have.
#2140 [19:52] <KakarotKY> Nothing is wrong.
#2141 [19:52] <TheNytangel> Pfft
#2142 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> KakarotKY - Using windows?
#2143 [19:52] <TheNytangel> ??< index
#2144 [19:52] <KakarotKY> W7
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#2146 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> KakarotKY - What is your windows username?
#2147 [19:52] <KakarotKY> Heather
#2148 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Does it happen to have an ! mark in it?
#2149 [19:53] <KakarotKY> I am confused now.
#2150 [19:53] <Wug> KakarotKY: your windows username
#2151 [19:53] <CrusaderDeleters> http://tiny.cc/errortest_bat
#2152 [19:53] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Let's try it this way. Go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#2153 [19:53] <Wug> does it have a ! in it
#2154 [19:53] <KakarotKY> No. It's just Heather.
#2155 [19:53] <Wug> has it ever had a ! in it
#2156 [19:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Someone should add http://tiny.cc/errortest_bat into a bot command somewhere.
#2157 [19:53] <KakarotKY> No.
#2158 [19:54] <Devin> ??< index
#2159 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> When you put in %userprofile% and press enter, tell us the name of the folder it pops up with
#2160 [19:54] <KakarotKY> Heather
#2161 [19:54] <GreyVulpine> Huh. Alright.
#2162 [19:55] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: the shapshots have logging built in
#2163 [19:55] <Wug> that will be rolled out in 1.3
#2164 [19:55] <TheNytangel> Wug: I just ended up starting in safe mode
#2165 [19:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh nice.
#2166 [19:55] <Wug> no more of this error test script nonsense
#2167 [19:55] <Wug> TheNytangel: that worked?
#2168 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> KakarotKY - Then go back to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %appdata%
#2169 [19:55] <Wug> do you have the install disk
#2170 [19:55] <TheNytangel> Yeah, I just grabbed the files I needed
#2171 [19:55] <Wug> you could try repairing
#2172 [19:55] <KakarotKY> I am there.
#2173 [19:55] <Wug> or have you fixed it
#2174 [19:55] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Find the .minecraft folder. Go inside and delete everything but the save folder
#2175 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Then try launching minecraft again
#2176 [19:56] <TheNytangel> Geez, the hail is so.... hail-ee
#2177 [19:56] <CrusaderDeleters> grey, wouldn't it be just the bin folder? :o
#2178 [19:56] * GreyVulpine likes to be thorough.
#2178 [19:56] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#2179 [19:56] <Wug> it could be a texture pacl
#2180 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> ^
#2181 [19:57] <KakarotKY> Updating Packages
#2182 [19:57] <Wug> though youd think that would trigger the error test script
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#2184 [19:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait, wug, my snapshot of 1.3 didn't output any error message when it crashed. :I
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#2186 [19:58] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: check your .minecraft
#2187 [19:58] <KakarotKY> It finished and went white again
#2188 [19:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Wow. Minecraft is awesome. ._.
#2189 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
#2190 [19:59] <CrusaderDeleters> At abw.a, hp.a, asi.a
#2191 [19:59] <Wug> KakarotKY: get teamviewer
#2192 [19:59] <Devin> ??< teamviewer
#2193 [19:59] <Devin> daw
#2194 [19:59] <GreyVulpine> ??> #minecrafthelp teamviewer
#2195 [19:59] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2196 [19:59] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2197 [20:00] <Devin> lol.
#2198 [20:00] <Wug> ?? test
#2199 [20:00] <KakarotKY> I know what it is.
#2200 [20:00] <KakarotKY> I am installing now.
#2201 [20:00] <KakarotKY> Be right back.
#2202 [20:00] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: just ?? teamviewer doesn't work?
#2203 [20:00] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2203 [20:00] <Devin> try it
#2204 [20:01] <Devin> xD
#2205 [20:01] <TheNytangel> ?? teamviewer
#2206 [20:01] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2207 [20:01] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2208 [20:01] <TheNytangel> Thought so..
#2209 [20:01] <TheNytangel> :P
#2210 [20:01] <Devin> Yeah, it dos
#2211 [20:01] <Devin> Does*
#2212 [20:01] <KakarotKY> I have it ready.
#2213 [20:02] <Wug> KakarotKY: fire it up then
#2214 [20:02] <KakarotKY> It is.
#2215 [20:02] <Wug> shoot someone your id and pass
#2216 [20:02] <KakarotKY> How do I whisper?
#2217 [20:02] <Wug> ill take it if gravy wont
#2218 [20:02] <GreyVulpine> Go ahead
#2219 [20:02] <Wug> /msg wug [stuff goes here]
#2220 [20:02] <Devin> ./msg
#2221 [20:02] <Devin> Aw damn, beat me.
#2222 [20:02] <KakarotKY> Get that?
#2223 [20:05] <TheNytangel> Wug: lol, gravy
#2224 [20:05] <TheNytangel> GravyVulpine
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#2226 [20:08] <Wug> it was probably java
#2227 [20:09] <mib_s3rq8i> Hi, im stuck on connecting to my friends servers. They all say the folowing: Can't Resolve hostname
#2228 [20:09] <mib_s3rq8i> help?
#2229 [20:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Port forward.
#2230 [20:09] <mib_s3rq8i> Whats that?
#2231 [20:09] <TheNytangel> Your friend has to
#2232 [20:09] <Wug> nope, wasnt that
#2233 [20:09] <mib_s3rq8i> 30 people+ play his game.
#2234 [20:09] <CrusaderDeleters> oh
#2235 [20:09] <mib_s3rq8i> I don't think its him. 100% me.
#2236 [20:10] <CrusaderDeleters> reinstall java/mc? c:
#2237 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> Server address?
#2238 [20:10] <Wug> www.pastebin.com/ZpCeihVv
#2239 [20:10] <mib_s3rq8i> server adress is: 64.37.55 198:25565
#2240 [20:10] <CrusaderDeleters> missed a period. c:
#2241 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> ;check 64.37.55.198
#2242 [20:10] <mib_s3rq8i> i meant 1 after 55
#2243 [20:10] <mib_s3rq8i> ma bad
#2244 [20:10] <mib_s3rq8i> but it still wont work.
#2245 [20:10] <GreyVulpine> !check 64.37.55.198
#2246 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure that's the exact address you're putting in?
#2247 [20:11] <mib_s3rq8i> Yes.
#2248 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Try retyping it
#2249 [20:11] <mib_s3rq8i> on msn with ma mate naow.
#2250 [20:11] <mib_s3rq8i> I did 8 times, but doesn't hurt to try again.
#2251 [20:11] <mib_s3rq8i> Sec.
#2252 [20:11] <CrusaderDeleters> I have a problem connecting too, but I know the reason. c:
#2253 [20:11] <GreyVulpine> Then you have some sort of firewall or security program blocking minecraft from connecting correctly
#2254 [20:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Quick, grey, Cannot connect to that server: "
#2255 [20:12] <CrusaderDeleters> woops
#2256 [20:12] <CrusaderDeleters> "Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#2257 [20:13] <mib_s3rq8i> can't resolve host name again.
#2258 [20:13] <mib_s3rq8i> Does minecraft just hatin meh? ;'L
#2259 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> mib_s3rq8i - See if you can connect to s.nerd.nu
#2260 [20:13] <mib_s3rq8i> just got it today and can't do multiplayer. UGH
#2261 [20:13] <mib_s3rq8i> whats s.nerd.nu
#2262 [20:13] <mib_s3rq8i> ?
#2263 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> If not, then you have some sort of security software blocking java/minecraft from connecting
#2264 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> It's another minecraft server
#2265 [20:13] <mib_s3rq8i> mk
#2266 [20:14] <mib_s3rq8i> name? or ip slot?
#2267 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> ip
#2268 [20:14] <mib_s3rq8i> i got it..
#2269 [20:14] <mib_s3rq8i> so its just that 1 then eh?
#2270 [20:14] <Devin> mib_s3rq8i,
#2271 [20:14] <Devin> what version are you using
#2272 [20:14] <TheNytangel> I connected just fine
#2273 [20:15] * TheNytangel is late to the party
#2273 [20:15] <mib_s3rq8i> mib, i got in the nerd 1 u gave me
#2274 [20:15] <mib_s3rq8i> so is it just my m8s game?
#2275 [20:15] <Devin> You're on a snapshot, I bet
#2276 [20:15] <mib_s3rq8i> or?...
#2277 [20:15] <Wug> hes on intel processor graphics
#2278 [20:15] <Wug> but hes in luck, theres an update available
#2279 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah
#2280 [20:15] <Devin> mib_s3rq8i, are you on a snapshot?
#2281 [20:15] <CrusaderDeleters> devin
#2282 [20:15] <CrusaderDeleters> That wouldn't be a problem. c:
#2283 [20:15] <Devin> CrusaderDeleters, why?
#2284 [20:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I know what it would say if you were on a snapshot.
#2285 [20:16] <Devin> It'd say connection reset
#2286 [20:16] <CrusaderDeleters> That's not the error.
#2287 [20:16] <Wug> mib_s3rq8i: there is a space in the address you pasted
#2288 [20:16] <Devin> I just got the error
#2289 [20:16] <Wug> is that there in what you are entering too
#2290 [20:16] <Wug> mib_s3rq8i: also, you can pick a real name with /nick
#2291 [20:16] <Wug> /nick newnamehree
#2292 [20:16] <Wug> here*
#2293 [20:16] <CrusaderDeleters> hree.
#2294 [20:17] <Devin> anywhom rb
#2295 [20:17] <Devin> brb.
#2296 [20:17] <Wug> erherhsethrt.
#2297 [20:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Quick, grey, Cannot connect to that server: "Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#2298 [20:17] <Wug> ....
#2299 [20:17] <Wug> stop trying.
#2300 [20:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Or you can ask, wug. c:
#2301 [20:17] <CrusaderDeleters> answer*
#2302 [20:17] <Wug> ;check 64.37.55.198:25565
#2303 [20:18] <Wug> crap no wugbot
#2304 [20:18] <Wug> well
#2305 [20:18] <Wug> dont keep trying
#2306 [20:18] <Wug> I think you know perfectly well why
#2307 [20:18] <CrusaderDeleters> I do, wondering if you do.
#2308 [20:18] <CrusaderDeleters> [20:11] CrusaderDeleters I have a problem connecting too, but I know the reason. c:
#2309 [20:18] <Wug> I suspect something
#2310 [20:19] <Wug> welp, better visit every popular server to force a logout on anyone using your accounts
#2311 [20:19] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: what is the reason
#2312 [20:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Snapshot 1.3
#2313 [20:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Who's accounts? :o
#2314 [20:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait, what is going on?
#2315 [20:20] <Wug> heh actually
#2316 [20:20] <Wug> you probably got me on that one
#2317 [20:20] <CrusaderDeleters> c:
#2318 [20:20] <Wug> its funny because indirectly im still right
#2319 [20:21] * CrusaderDeleters is confused.
#2319 [20:21] <CrusaderDeleters> "welp, better visit every popular server to force a logout on anyone using your accounts"
#2320 [20:21] <TheNytangel> Someone hacked his account?
#2321 [20:21] <TheNytangel> It was me
#2322 [20:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Still, who's accounts and what is going on? 0.0
#2323 [20:21] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: whos*
#2324 [20:21] <Wug> whoms
#2325 [20:22] <CrusaderDeleters> :I
#2326 [20:22] <TheNytangel> That sounds weird
#2327 [20:22] <TheNytangel> I don't like whom, never use it again
#2328 [20:22] <Wug> who'ms've're
#2329 [20:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Yoo gremer natsee
#2330 [20:22] <TheNytangel> :P
#2331 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> I am going to hate large biomes oceans. :I
#2332 [20:23] <Wug> ok new driver installed
#2333 [20:23] <Wug> lets see how that goes
#2334 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Intel actually can run Minecraft cleanly now.
#2335 [20:24] <Wug> the newer ones on second gen iX chips always have
#2336 [20:24] <Wug> lately theyve had some issues
#2337 [20:24] <Wug> but their driver team has gotten a lot of act together since this time last year
#2338 [20:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Nice.
#2339 [20:25] <Devin> Wouldn't it be whose?
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#2343 [20:25] <Wug> I was about to tell him to go away
#2344 [20:25] <Devin> lol
#2345 [20:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope, Whomsofdeathfromthecloudsabovetokill
#2346 [20:25] <Devin> Who is that?
#2347 [20:25] <Wug> I know what he is here about
#2348 [20:25] <Wug> and its mode
#2349 [20:26] <Wug> mods*
#2350 [20:26] <Devin> Ooh.
#2351 [20:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Mods are highly denied here. c:
#2352 [20:26] <CrusaderDeleters> A select few of us actually take the time to understand the error that they made.
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#2354 [20:27] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: like me :D
#2355 [20:27] <CrusaderDeleters> and me, sometiems. c:
#2356 [20:27] <TheNytangel> If it's a black screen, but otherwise, I have no idea how to mod
#2357 [20:28] <CrusaderDeleters> I would rather the people gimme some of the source so it is easier.
#2358 [20:28] <CrusaderDeleters> But I rarely have modders come in here without me yelping "We don't provide support for mods."
#2359 [20:28] * lutzee is pretty good with mod errors
#2359 [20:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyone have a nice idea for a small game that I can torrent?
#2360 [20:31] <clarjon1> CrusaderDeleters: SNES roms
#2361 [20:31] <Devin> a small game?
#2362 [20:31] <CrusaderDeleters> I already got ALTTP and Super mario. :c
#2363 [20:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Looking for an actual .exe game. XD
#2364 [20:31] <clarjon1> CrusaderDeleters: terranigma, chrono trigger, secret of mana, secret of evermore...
#2365 [20:31] <Devin> duuuude, Chrono Trigger :|
#2366 [20:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Duuude. You sound soooo high, man!
#2367 [20:33] <Devin> CrusaderDeleters, you like RTS games?
#2368 [20:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Yar.
#2369 [20:33] <Devin> Uh, shit. Torrenting it means no multiplayer, but Frozen Synapse is quite cool
#2370 [20:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Torrenting can allow multiplayer, depends if there's a keygen. c:
#2371 [20:33] <Devin> Oh.
#2372 [20:33] <Wug> hey
#2373 [20:33] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#2374 [20:33] <Wug> just because youre not talking about minecraft
#2375 [20:34] <Wug> doesnt mean piracy is ok to discuss
#2376 [20:34] <Devin> Oh, sorry.
#2377 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Kai
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#2379 [20:34] <KakarotKY> Wug, I am back.
#2380 [20:34] <Wug> KakarotKY: working?
#2381 [20:34] <TheNytangel> Wug: then why did you try to get me to pirate starcraft II or something?
#2382 [20:34] <KakarotKY> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
#2383 [20:34] <Wug> TheNytangel: I tried to get you to buy it silly
#2384 [20:34] <TheNytangel> Oh good, I got the game right
#2385 [20:34] <Wug> KakarotKY: in that case, you might have to wait until the drivers update
#2386 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Creeper World and Creeper World 2 are great games. c:
#2387 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Get them.
#2388 [20:35] <Wug> is it behaving differently than it was
#2389 [20:35] <KakarotKY> It works completely.
#2390 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> I made a channel for piracy. XD
#2391 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> I feel cheap and dirty. :c
#2392 [20:35] <Wug> oooh
#2393 [20:35] <Wug> I thought you said "NOOOOOOOOOO" lol
#2394 [20:36] * Devin laughs at all the quiets.
#2394 [20:36] <Wug> aaaaaaaa
#2395 [20:36] <KakarotKY> I am so excite!
#2396 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> aaaaaa
#2397 [20:36] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: threshold is 6
#2398 [20:36] <Wug> 8*
#2399 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh
#2400 [20:36] <Wug> also
#2401 [20:36] <Wug> if you type
#2402 [20:36] <Wug> lines
#2403 [20:36] <Wug> real fast
#2404 [20:36] <Wug> <3 VoxelHead
#2405 [20:37] <Wug> im going to get ice cream
#2406 [20:38] <Wug> I also might buy an obnoxious graphics card on newegg
#2407 [20:38] <Wug> because I deposited my first paycheck today
#2408 [20:38] <TheNytangel> Wug: whom's birthday is it?
#2409 [20:38] <Wug> I feel like its mine
#2410 [20:38] <Wug> but it isnt till later
#2411 [20:38] <TheNytangel> It's*
#2412 [20:38] <TheNytangel> Isn't*
#2413 [20:38] <TheNytangel> :P
#2414 [20:38] <Wug> ur're've'st'm
#2415 [20:38] <Wug> ''
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#2422 [21:41] <bcalkins17> how do i get chunks to load faster?
#2423 [21:42] <TheNytangel> Do I remember you from somewhere?
#2424 [21:43] <bcalkins17> not sure
#2425 [21:45] <TheNytangel> Like.. earlier today
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#2427 [21:53] <mickster04> ls
#2428 [21:53] <mickster04> ... :| uhm, next window...
#2429 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> no wonder it took so long for results to show up
#2430 [21:55] <mickster04> results?
#2431 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> ls
#2432 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> ... wait ... hrm - must be an empty directory
#2433 [22:00] <TheNytangel> Lol
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#2435 [22:01] <bcalkins17> how do i get chunks too load faster?
#2436 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> with a faster hard drive
#2437 [22:01] <TheNytangel> Do I remember you from somewhere?
#2438 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> chunks load slowly because it takes time to get the info from the hard drive. Using SSD's for your drives removes most of that slow down
#2439 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> TheNytangel: me?
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#2441 [22:05] <bcalkins17> what are ssd's
#2442 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> solid-state drives - with an amazingly fast access time
#2443 [22:06] <TheNytangel> DiskDaemon: no, bcalkins17
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#2446 [22:20] <Gunslinger2> ....*grumbles*
#2447 [22:21] <CrusaderDeleters> ........**ggrruummbblleess**
#2448 [22:21] <TheNytangel> HAHAHA
#2449 [22:21] <CrusaderDeleters> :c Voxel hates me.
#2450 [22:21] <TheNytangel> The whole world does
#2451 [22:21] <TheNytangel> That's another one
#2452 [22:21] <TheNytangel> Whole and hole
#2453 [22:21] <CrusaderDeleters> D:
#2454 [22:22] <Gunslinger2> i keep crashing my server trying to build a huge pyramid
#2455 [22:22] <TheNytangel> What is it, #4?
#2456 [22:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Gun, handmake it. c:
#2457 [22:22] <Gunslinger2> ....would take to long, it need to be ....very tall
#2458 [22:24] <Gunslinger2> voxelsniper seems to work better than World Edit...
#2459 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Voxel Sniper is lovely
#2460 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> World Edit is great if you ahve the outside Application.
#2461 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> But I'm pretty sure it isn't called world edit in the application.
#2462 [22:25] <Marc_IRL> Btw, whoever runs the ! paid bot, it's more technically correct to say that they're not premium, rather than they haven't paid. Payment could be in transit, and then you freak out some poor customer :p
#2463 [22:25] <Marc_IRL> Just sayin' ^_^
#2464 [22:25] <IosefKoranison> Hi, I just recently got Minecraft and I was trying to change my character skin, so I replaced the Steve skin with another skin that I renamed char.png and deleted the original, not knowing that the website has a way to change skins. But when I went to rename the skin I had downloaded back to what it was so that I could put Steve as the skin, all of a sudden everything disappeared. I was
#2465 [22:25] <IosefKoranison> using 7zip to open the jar file and all I did was click rename on the char.png and hit enter after typing. I've tried going closing 7zip and using the icon that has the folder on it with an up arrow (I forget the name) but nothing is working. And for some reason Minecraft won't load correctly. It just says in the window "Updating Minecraft" with an almost completed loading bar that says
#2466 [22:25] <IosefKoranison> "Done loading" next to it.
#2467 [22:26] <IosefKoranison> Sorry for the wall of text, I don't know how to change lines in IRC.
#2468 [22:26] <Devin> you have a .minecraft jar?
#2469 [22:26] <Devin> wow
#2470 [22:26] <IosefKoranison> Huh?
#2471 [22:26] <Devin> Minecraft.jar?
#2472 [22:26] <Devin> Do you have one*
#2473 [22:27] <IosefKoranison> Yes.
#2474 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Iosef, save the character image somewhere onto your desktop
#2475 [22:27] <CrusaderDeleters> And do you have any mods? c:
#2476 [22:27] <IosefKoranison> No mods.
#2477 [22:27] <Devin> Dammit CrusaderDeleters
#2478 [22:27] <Devin> Force update y our .jar
#2479 [22:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Iosef, can you remove all the content in your .minecraft folder except for your saves?
#2480 [22:28] <Devin> CrusaderDeleters, couldn't he just force update :L
#2481 [22:28] <Devin> He only messed with the .jar
#2482 [22:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Ask Grey.
#2483 [22:28] <CrusaderDeleters> c:
#2484 [22:28] <Devin> "I like to be thorough" lawl.
#2485 [22:28] <Devin> Okay, I understand
#2486 [22:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#2487 [22:29] <IosefKoranison> I'm lost. XD
#2488 [22:29] <CrusaderDeleters> You know in your Roaming?
#2489 [22:29] <CrusaderDeleters> .minecraft?
#2490 [22:29] <IosefKoranison> Yeah.
#2491 [22:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Delete everything except the saves. Keep the saves.
#2492 [22:30] <IosefKoranison> So then just reinstall Minecraft?
#2493 [22:30] <CrusaderDeleters> YEah.
#2494 [22:30] <IosefKoranison> Okay, I'll try that.
#2495 [22:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Why do you chagne the jar's internal Character image, anways? :o
#2496 [22:31] <Devin> He didn't know there was a way on the website
#2497 [22:31] <IosefKoranison> ^this
#2498 [22:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#2499 [22:31] <IosefKoranison> So do I just delete the entire .minecraft folder, since I moved the saves file somewhere else?
#2500 [22:31] <Devin> yeah
#2501 [22:31] <CrusaderDeleters> You can.
#2502 [22:31] <IosefKoranison> Kay.
#2503 [22:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Then when minecraft runs, everything will be wiped, and you can put the Saves folder back where it was.
#2504 [22:34] <IosefKoranison> Ahh, problem solved. Thanks! I just wonder why the .jar file wouldn't open all of a sudden. That was strange.
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#2506 [22:36] <xshadowflame99x> hey can someone help me with the lan snapshot?
#2507 [22:37] <Gunslinger2> is there a way to import 3d models into minecraft?
#2508 [22:37] <Gunslinger2> is there a way to import 3d models into minecraft?
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#2510 [22:38] <xshadowflame99x> hello?
#2511 [22:38] <Devin> Gunslinger2, i believe worldedit wsupports .schematics
#2512 [22:38] <Devin> xshadowflame99x, what?
#2513 [22:38] <Devin> what's up with the LAN snapshot?
#2514 [22:39] <xshadowflame99x> do you know how it works and how to get my freind to join it
#2515 [22:39] <Devin> Well
#2516 [22:39] <Devin> You have to either start a new world or find a way to use cheats (to use commands)
#2517 [22:39] <Devin> If you starta new world, go under world options and make sure cheats are turned to on
#2518 [22:39] <Devin> Then type /publish
#2519 [22:39] <xshadowflame99x> yes i got tht far i did /publish
#2520 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> What is the ip check command?
#2521 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> ;check 173.242.127.19:25566
#2522 [22:39] <Devin> CrusaderDeleters, !check? I think I0i
#2523 [22:39] <Devin> O-o
#2524 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> !check 173.242.127.19:25566
#2525 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> !check 67.198.48.182:25566
#2526 [22:40] <Devin> xshadowflame99x, then what?
#2527 [22:40] <xshadowflame99x> and i got the ip thing had him type it in and it wont work
#2528 [22:40] <Devin> get him to try "localhost" as ip
#2529 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep, Zombie and Lava are down.
#2530 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> !check 127.0.0.1
#2531 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#2532 [22:40] <Devin> lol
#2533 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Thanks for telling everyone, moronic Au.
#2534 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#2535 [22:41] <xshadowflame99x> connection refused:connect
#2536 [22:41] <Devin> with "localhost"?
#2537 [22:41] <xshadowflame99x> yes
#2538 [22:41] <Devin> I'm sorry, I don't know then
#2539 [22:41] <xshadowflame99x> ok thanks anyway
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#2541 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> devin
#2542 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Did you check if he had Java 6 AND 7?
#2543 [22:43] <Devin> what beautiful
#2544 [22:43] <Devin> No, he can play the game
#2545 [22:43] <Aanthonyii> Hi
#2546 [22:43] <Devin> he just cant get publish to work
#2547 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh
#2548 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> This be WorldEdit?
#2549 [22:43] <Devin> Hm?
#2550 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Was this non-vanilla mc? :o
#2551 [22:44] <Devin> nonono it was vanilla
#2552 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Confused. I quit. :I
#2553 [22:44] <Aanthonyii> Wtf
#2554 [22:45] <Devin> ?
#2555 [22:47] <Gunslinger2> ....*turns green*, wow made a stone ball within tower and it has this weird optical illusion/vertigo effect
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#2560 [23:01] <Friend_> hello
#2561 [23:01] <Friend_> may i get some support.
#2562 [23:02] <Friend_> I downloaded a texture pack about one hour ago. An now when i try to play MineCraft it just black screens.
#2563 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Do you know how to remove it?
#2564 [23:03] <Friend_> it wont let me delete the texture pack folder.
#2565 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> Don't have minecraft running when you do this
#2566 [23:03] <Friend_> i don't.
#2567 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Friend_ - What operating system are you on?
#2568 [23:04] <Friend_> Windows 7
#2569 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Press ctrl-shift-esc to bring up your task manager, look at the processes tab. Do you see any java processes in there?
#2570 [23:05] <Friend_> Nothing
#2571 [23:05] <Friend_> except skype
#2572 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. You don't have any files opened inside the texture pack folder, right?
#2573 [23:07] <Friend_> One sec please i think it auto corrected itself.
#2574 [23:07] <Devin> Friend_,
#2575 [23:07] <Devin> wow lag
#2576 [23:07] <Devin> Have y ou touched the minecraft.jar at all?
#2577 [23:07] <Friend_> Thank you for your support it fixed the problem was the file was a corrupted one my computer just decided to fix it
#2578 [23:08] <Friend_> thank you, Good Night.
#2579 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> Glad you got it figured out
#2580 [23:08] <Wug> Friend_:
#2581 [23:08] <Wug> consider running a disk check in the very near future
#2582 [23:08] <Wug> or not
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#2584 [23:17] <caseyemile> so i tried to join a sever and it said an error occured while uploading the applet what do i do?
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#2590 [23:55] <TrueWolves> Quick question, what happens if you set the max hieght above 256?
#2591 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> Is it a server mod of some kind that gives that max height option?
#2592 [23:57] <TrueWolves> Nope.
#2593 [23:58] <TrueWolves> It is on the normal server thing now O.o
#2594 [23:58] <TrueWolves> Which is what confused me.
#2595 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> Is it max-build-height that you mean?