#1 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> That's just the maximum height at which people are allowed to build things. Normally you set it lower to protect higher areas from being modified
#2 [00:01] * TrueWolves nods.
#2 [00:02] <TrueWolves> eugh...
#3 [00:02] <TrueWolves> Trying to set up a server for a friend, and when they tried to connect, they got a bad login -.-;
#4 [00:03] <DiskDaemon> Can they login normally to a singleplayer game?
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#6 [00:03] <TrueWolves> How do you log in to a multiplayer server in a single player game? >>>
#7 [00:03] <TrueWolves> >.>
#8 [00:03] <Devin> On the latest snapshot?
#9 [00:04] <TrueWolves> No. x.x;
#10 [00:04] <Devin> Wait
#11 [00:04] <TrueWolves> Just, trying to set up a server for a non tech savvy friend with the current public software.
#12 [00:04] <Devin> what do you mean in a singleplayer game
#13 [00:04] <TrueWolves> [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Can they login normally to a singleplayer game?
#14 [00:04] <Devin> Oh.
#15 [00:04] <Devin> Can they play it.
#16 [00:04] <DiskDaemon> I wondering if they have a similar bad login issue in single player
#17 [00:05] <TrueWolves> I'm pretty sure they can play single player just fine.
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#19 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> If he's in offline mode, he won't be allowed to login to a server when the server has online-mode set to true
#20 [00:06] <TrueWolves> Yes. :|
#21 [00:06] <TrueWolves> Err
#22 [00:06] <TrueWolves> She's not in offline mode.
#23 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> Can anyone else log in to the server?
#24 [00:07] <Devin> Ip?
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#26 [00:08] <TrueWolves> Okay, they got on to the server, but still can't get others to do the same with the public IP.
#27 [00:08] <Devin> What's the ip
#28 [00:08] <TrueWolves> I'm not handing out the IP.
#29 [00:08] <Devin> Well okay then
#30 [00:09] <Devin> Guessing they're on the same internet (cant think of the word), they'll need to port forward to let others on
#31 [00:09] <TrueWolves> >.>; What could cause connection time outs when trying to connect?
#32 [00:09] <Devin> network
#33 [00:09] <TrueWolves> They'er not on the same network.
#34 [00:09] <Devin> Oh
#35 [00:09] <Devin> Turn on the whitelist and hand out the ip, there's a check function here
#36 [00:10] <TrueWolves> Hm..
#37 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> "Bad login" issues tend to happen with accounts being shared, since the login token is refreshed with each login. Bad login can also be caused by a hacked account
#38 [00:10] <TrueWolves> Hm..
#39 [00:10] <TrueWolves> It seems to be a router or internet problem, not a server program.
#40 [00:10] <TrueWolves> err
#41 [00:10] <TrueWolves> problem*
#42 [00:10] <TrueWolves> Because she's on the server using localhost but other's can't connect.
#43 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine is who I've seen around here that seems to know a lot about such bad login issues
#44 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> If others outside of the local network can see the server (but not connect) then it's not a prt forwarding problem
#45 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> port forwarding issues prevent the server from being seen at all from outside
#46 [00:12] <TrueWolves> I can't see the server either.
#47 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> If you can't even see the server, how does the bad login relate to things?
#48 [00:13] * TrueWolves facepalms...
#48 [00:13] <TrueWolves> She got the bad login her first attempt, I said so.
#49 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> ahh, but she can connect now?
#50 [00:13] <TrueWolves> Right now the problem is no one can connect outside of her network.
#51 [00:13] <TrueWolves> I mentioned that twice yes.
#52 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> Okay - you need to check that port forwarding is directing traffic to the server then
#53 [00:14] <TrueWolves> And how would I explaign this to someone who's entirely non-tech savvy? -.o
#54 [00:14] <TrueWolves> With little patience x.x;
#55 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> with great difficulty
#56 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> There are some websites that can help thogh
#57 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> The main one is http://portforward.com/
#58 [00:15] <TrueWolves> Eugh, that site alone lags my internet -.o
#59 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> Is there anything else we can help you with?
#60 [00:18] <TrueWolves> Eh.. not really.
#61 [00:18] <TrueWolves> Looks like the server's gonna die, port forwarding looks to be a pain to explaign in non technical manners.
#62 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Basically port forarding is where you tell the router to direct anything coming in on port 25565 to go to the computer that has the minecraft server
#63 [00:19] <TrueWolves> I know, but trying to explaign how to do so to someone looks painful.
#64 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> That site does have software that helps to simplify things
#65 [00:20] <TrueWolves> I don't think she's willing to download anything or go out of her way to set it up.. so.. yeah, it's kinda dead.
#66 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> that's how it has to be then
#67 [00:21] * TrueWolves nods..
#67 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> The official Minecraft wiki has info about how port forarding is required too http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Port_Forwarding
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#69 [00:22] <TrueWolves> Mhm, that's what I was looking at.
#70 [00:22] <TrueWolves> I'd do it if I had direct access to the server myself, unfortantely I don't.
#71 [00:23] <TrueWolves> Thank you for helping identify the problem at least.
#72 [00:23] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#80 [01:58] <sephr> Is there any good way to enable SLI support in Minecraft other than forcing alternate frame rendering 1 or 2 in the nvidia control panel?
#81 [01:58] <sephr> if I enable SLI that way my fps halves
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#83 [02:01] <sephr> with Sonic Ether's Unbelievable Shaders (Ultra) @ 2560x1440 I just barely get 60fps but I'd like to balance the load among multiple gpus
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#89 [02:47] <ImJaqo> How do I change my mine craft save location?
#90 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> by changing the run location of minecraft. Depends on what OS you use
#91 [02:51] <ImJaqo> I use a Mac OSX lion
#92 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> That, I have no idea how to do, sorry.
#93 [02:51] <ImJaqo> thats ok
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#103 [03:51] <basti_xoxo> After logging in in minecraft it shuts down. Java Environment Error
#104 [03:52] <basti_xoxo> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006903d268, pid=2280, tid=1728 # # JRE version: 7.0_05-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (23.1-b03 mixed mode windows-amd64 compressed oops) # Problematic frame: # C [atio6axx.dll+0xd268] DrvSwapBuffers+0xb8 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Wind
#105 [03:52] <lutzee> basti_xoxo, use pastebin.com plese
#106 [03:54] <basti_xoxo> http://pastebin.com/cut3rAr0
#107 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> Update ATI drivers from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#108 [03:55] <basti_xoxo> i have already done this
#109 [03:55] <basti_xoxo> but it doesnt work
#110 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> What video card do you have?
#111 [03:56] <basti_xoxo> ati radeon hd 5470
#112 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> And you got the latest drivers for it from AMD's website there?
#113 [03:56] <basti_xoxo> yes
#114 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> A known solution is to download the latest Catalyst Suite, uninstall all existing AMD drivers, reboot, run Driver Sweeper, reboot, then install the Catalyst Suite that was downloaded
#115 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> If for some strange reason things continue ot fail after that, we can help myou to get a dxdiag log that we can use to troubleshoot things further
#116 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: Is there anything else that you would suggest on that?
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#118 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> I'm going to be off for a few hours, good luck
#119 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> Not really.
#120 [04:07] <GreyVulpine> You basically covered what I was going to say
#121 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> Change of plans, I'll be here afterall - my weekly go game group isn't on this week
#122 [04:20] <Gunslinger2> <confused
#123 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> Intro to Go - http://senseis.xmp.net/?WhatIsGo
#124 [04:22] <Gunslinger2> i have a semi elaborate redstone circuit and its working up to a point then it just stops for no apparent reason
#125 [04:22] <lutzee> not the one i built i hope ._.
#126 [04:25] <Gunslinger2> no this is a different one, unfortunately the one you builts gone i deleted the world and started over, BUT i plan on rebuilding that trap tho.
#127 [04:25] <Gunslinger2> i need to figure out how to make/save schematics otherwise id have did that with your trap
#128 [04:27] <Gunslinger2> ok i must be getting tired, i just had a lightbulb moment and fixed it /facepalm
#129 [04:31] <DiskDaemon> Gunslinger2: This redstone simulator is whaty you can use to create schematics http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/16084-baezons-redstone-simulator-v22/
#130 [04:56] <Gunslinger2> is there a way to rotate items with voxelsniper or world edit?
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#134 [05:21] <bcalkins17> fixed my chunk loading issue i just make a pre-generated map in worldpaint
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#137 [05:29] <bcalkins17> why do pre generated maps run faster??
#138 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> Because the data is there, and doesn't need to be generated
#139 [05:29] <lutzee> generating new land takes up cpu time
#140 [05:30] <bcalkins17> oh cool
#141 [05:30] <bcalkins17> i get 60 fps on a pre genrated map i have it locked at 60
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#144 [06:33] <Dronex10> Ok, can someone help me please? I just installed a mod for minecraft (Tornadoes mod) and im trying to get into the mod_weather.cfg file and edit it, but whenever i save the edits and restart minecraft, the config resets to default. its REALLY annoying, and i cant find a fix on the net.
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#146 [06:34] <LarsGermany> hi
#147 [06:34] <LarsGermany> germans here ?
#148 [06:34] <LarsGermany> i need help ^^
#149 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> ??> Dronex10 mods
#150 [06:35] <VoxelHead> Dronex10: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#151 [06:35] <VoxelHead> Dronex10: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#152 [06:35] <LarsGermany> i have buy minecraft via moneybookers and have pay 19,95 € but now i cant log in there write "user not premium"
#153 [06:36] <DiskDaemon> LarsGermany: Please check your bank account to check if money has been withdrawn
#154 [06:36] <LarsGermany> i have look on my bank account the 19,95 are switch to moneybookers
#155 [06:36] <LarsGermany> but i cant log in
#156 [06:36] <SinZ> LarsGermany: Did you buy it on minecraft.net, or a different site?
#157 [06:36] <LarsGermany> minecraft.net
#158 [06:36] <Dronex10> VoxelHead: i dont think its necesarily just an issue with the mod, it runs fine but it may be a issue with read-write permissions for certain files. I believe NTFS or Windows 7 may be restricting write access to that specific file, but i dont know why....
#159 [06:36] <LarsGermany> via moneybookers
#160 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> LarsGermany: The following page has details for you about premium http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#161 [06:37] <SinZ> VoxelHead is a bot...
#162 [06:37] <LarsGermany> they write moneybookers send the money to minecraft.net
#163 [06:37] <Dronex10> Nice
#164 [06:37] <Dronex10> uhm, any non-bots here?
#165 [06:37] <LarsGermany> thank you i look on this site
#166 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> I have been accused of being a bot on many occasions
#167 [06:37] <Dronex10> Anyone here with mod knowledge and is NOT a bot?
#168 [06:38] <SinZ> as VoxelHead said, this is not a venue for mod support, go to #risucraft
#169 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> Dronex10: #rusicraft is a channel that provides assistance with modding
#170 [06:38] <Dronex10> ok thx
#171 [06:38] <Dronex10> kiddin me, risucraft is empty
#172 [06:38] <Dronex10> erm
#173 [06:38] <SinZ> ehh
#174 [06:38] <Dronex10> rusicraft
#175 [06:39] <SinZ> #risucraft works foine for me
#176 [06:39] <SinZ> fine
#177 [06:39] <Dronex10> i can join , but its empty.
#178 [06:39] <Dronex10> is it risu or rusi
#179 [06:39] <SinZ> he did a typo
#180 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> risucraft
#181 [06:39] <Dronex10> -.-
#182 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> Dronex10: I'm in #rusucraft and didn't see you join in there, until now
#183 [06:39] <Dronex10> <3 typo confused me
#184 [06:40] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: either way, a typo
#185 [06:40] <DiskDaemon> I must be more watchful on those
#186 [06:40] * DiskDaemon unstiffen from faux-bot position
#186 [06:40] <SinZ> ^ proof of concept he isn't a bot
#187 [06:41] * Dronex10 Tests /me
#187 [06:52] <Dronex10> Are there any channels in here that people who make mods and know java code go into? nobody seems to know how to solve my issue.
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#189 [06:52] <cipe00> hi all
#190 [06:52] <cipe00> i have a big question
#191 [06:53] <cipe00> when i try to enter in a server it says failed to connect. it's probably down!
#192 [06:53] <Grim_Reaper> Is there a chance the server is down?
#193 [06:53] <cipe00> impossible... i try all servers
#194 [06:54] <cipe00> in each server i tr to enter i see that words
#195 [06:54] <Dronex10> Wait, i will be a tech support man. "SOUNDS LIKE PORTS."
#196 [06:54] <Dronex10> cuz this time it does.
#197 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> ports a relevant when you're running a server, but not when you're trying to connect to a server
#198 [06:55] <cipe00> i search in google for any solution...there are a lots of ppl with this problem but no solution...
#199 [06:56] <Dronex10> well if his firewall or something maybe blocks the server from connecting with him
#200 [06:56] <Dronex10> Cipe, when did this start to happen? did you change anything
#201 [06:57] <DiskDaemon> How can it be firewall when he can see the server to attempt connecting with it?
#202 [06:57] <cipe00> no..i'm on mcforge server.... i crash 3 times... and when i come in for the 4 i see that assage
#203 [06:57] <cipe00> *massage
#204 [07:00] <Dronex10> Disk, im not a very good person with connections but it does sound like something is blocking his connection from servers
#205 [07:00] <Dronex10> especially since he can connect here, it must be something blocking minecraft specifically or something
#206 [07:01] <cipe00> maybe somethings with ports?
#207 [07:01] <Dronex10> cipe, you should probably talk to diskdaemon on this
#208 [07:02] <cipe00> now i gtg....if there is a solution can send me an e-mail?
#209 [07:02] <cipe00> this is my email
#210 [07:02] <cipe00> cipe0@yahoo.it
#211 [07:03] <cipe00> anyone there?
#212 [07:05] <cipe00> gtg bye and thx all pls remember to send me an e-mail cipe0@yahoo.it
#213 [07:05] <cipe00> gtg bye and thx all pls remember to send me an e-mail cipe0@yahoo.it
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#215 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> does it say anything more about why it failed to connect?
#216 [07:06] <DiskDaemon> aww nuts
#217 [07:18] <SinZ> magnitude 5.2 earthquake hit melbourne, australia around 30min ago =S
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#232 [07:56] <strikerde> hi
#233 [07:56] <strikerde> jemand da der mir helfen kann?
#234 [07:57] <lutzee> mainly english here i think
#235 [07:57] <strikerde> ohh
#236 [07:57] <strikerde> my mc crashed when i install modloader and forge
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#238 [08:02] <lutzee> ask in #risucraft for mod support strikerde
#239 [08:02] <SinZ> strikerde: ask in #risucr-
#240 [08:02] <lutzee> hehe
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#242 [08:06] <strikerde> Cannot send to channel: #risucraft
#243 [08:06] <strikerde> hmm
#244 [08:06] <DiskDaemon> /join #risucraft
#245 [08:06] <SinZ> do /join -
#246 [08:06] <DiskDaemon> he's there
#247 [08:06] <SinZ> its not my day, is it...
#248 [08:06] <strikerde> i´m in the chan
#249 [08:09] <clarjon1> strikerde: it's because you're using mibbit
#250 [08:09] <clarjon1> -ChanServ- [#Risucraft] If you can't talk, you are probably using Mibbit. Please use http://webchat.esper.net/?channels=#risucraft instead. Use '/topic #risucraft' to read the topic. If you don't read it, you will be kicked for not following our very simple rules.
#251 [08:09] <lutzee> oh yeah... go to webchat.esper.net
#252 [08:11] <michke20_> hi
#253 [08:11] <michke20_> i'm having some troubles with buying minecraft over paypal
#254 [08:11] <michke20_> Are there any known problems with that way to buy minecraft?
#255 [08:11] <DiskDaemon> What seems to be the trouble?
#256 [08:12] <GreyVulpine> Some prepaid cards have difficulty in paypal
#257 [08:12] <michke20_> it keeps giving me a certain message, and then sends me back to the webshop of minecraft
#258 [08:12] <michke20_> i'll copy the message in a sec
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#260 [08:12] <clarjon1> what is the message
#261 [08:12] <clarjon1> ( we can't see your screen remember :3 )
#262 [08:14] <michke20_> translated to english it is: "sadly, the payment can't be processed through your paypal-account, please select an other payment method in the webshop
#263 [08:14] <DiskDaemon> michke20_: Are you trying to purchase a gift code?
#264 [08:14] <michke20_> no, just the game
#265 [08:15] <michke20_> And i got enough money on my paypal
#266 [08:18] <DiskDaemon> You might need to contact paypal then to find out what difficulty they have with making the payment
#267 [08:18] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
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#269 [08:19] <michke20_> yeah, i already sent one, just was wondering if anyone here knew what could be wrong
#270 [08:19] <DiskDaemon> Mojang direct you to contact Paypal at https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/helpscr?cmd=_help&t=escalateTab
#271 [08:20] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here has access to accounts - we're just community volunteers
#272 [08:20] <michke20_> thanks for the help
#273 [08:20] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#280 [08:54] <nickhimself> any admin that can help me?
#281 [08:54] <Morrolan> Just ask your question.
#282 [08:54] <nickhimself> ok so...i have a premium account and i ve forgot my email...can any1 tell me the email?
#283 [08:55] <nickhimself> the acc name is : Nickhimself
#284 [08:55] <clarjon1> we're just community volunteers.
#285 [08:55] <clarjon1> you could try to email mojang to find out.'
#286 [08:55] <nickhimself> but this channel is named minecrafthelp!!!!
#287 [08:55] <clarjon1> yes
#288 [08:55] <nickhimself> ok
#289 [08:55] <nickhimself> i ll try email to them
#290 [08:55] <nickhimself> thanks
#291 [08:55] <clarjon1> and we are people who love the game so much we give our time to try and help people
#292 [08:56] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
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#294 [08:56] <Morrolan> Oh gosh, he's gone already. <.<
#295 [08:56] <Gunslinger2> think i over did my use of gold blocks ;/
#296 [08:56] <clarjon1> Morrolan: that doesn't help him if he forgot which email to check.
#297 [08:57] <Morrolan> True, if he doesn't know which one to check it'd be useless.
#298 [08:57] <clarjon1> mhm.
#299 [08:57] <clarjon1> that's what his problem was.
#300 [08:57] <Morrolan> But if it's just a matter of "Omg I have 200 mail accounts and don't know which one" it might have helped.
#301 [08:57] <Morrolan> THen again, if this were the case he could have used the "reset password" function I guess.
#302 [08:57] <clarjon1> <nickhimself> ok so...i have a premium account and i ve forgot my email...can any1 tell me the email?
#303 [08:57] <Morrolan> Yea.
#304 [08:58] <Morrolan> Oh, turns out my idea wouldn't have worked anyway, you can't send a verification mail if your mail address is verified already.
#305 [08:59] <Morrolan> Hmm, I believe he could migrate his account to Mojang's global account thingy, and then he'd be able to change it there.
#306 [08:59] <Morrolan> But you might need said mail address to log in, come to think of it.
#307 [08:59] <Gunslinger2> should just ask for a password reset email, then just start looking through email accts till he finds it....
#308 [09:00] <Morrolan> Some people have a few dozen mail addresses, and forget half of them.
#309 [09:00] <geraldbrent> I sent one for the heck of it, hoping he would see it.
#310 [09:03] <Gunslinger2> if they had a world editor that was more like photoshop i would be a happy camper
#311 [09:04] <Morrolan> A world editor which was more like Photoshop? What on earth would that be?
#312 [09:04] <Necrodoom> powerpoint
#313 [09:04] <Morrolan> That's like saying you want a text editing software which is more like Audacity. :P
#314 [09:06] <Gunslinger2> im just more familiar with photoshop and not used to having to //b 12 /vr goldblock or //fillr /u //undo all the time
#315 [09:06] <Morrolan> For large edits I recommend a standalone world editor anyway, like MCEdit.
#316 [09:07] <Morrolan> WorldEdit is great and all, but there's only so much you can do without crashing the server.
#317 [09:07] <Gunslinger2> im familiar with that phenomenon
#318 [09:07] <Gunslinger2> quite
#319 [09:07] <Morrolan> Heh.
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#323 [09:47] <WoM-Guest> hello
#324 [09:47] <WoM-Guest> Can some1 help me im having a big problem
#325 [09:47] <DiskDaemon> we'll try
#326 [09:48] <WoM-Guest> Mk
#327 [09:48] <WoM-Guest> SO i was hapily trying to install a xray mod
#328 [09:49] <WoM-Guest> And I epicly failed some how
#329 [09:49] <WoM-Guest> NOw minecraft is going black when i log in
#330 [09:49] <Necrodoom> delete appdata/roaming/.minecraft/bin
#331 [09:49] <DiskDaemon> Perform a forced update to return back to a mon-modded situation
#332 [09:49] <Necrodoom> restart launcher
#333 [09:49] <Necrodoom> should restore to normal
#334 [09:49] <Necrodoom> next time, dont mess with cheating mods
#335 [09:49] <WoM-Guest> Emm
#336 [09:50] <WoM-Guest> I already did force update
#337 [09:50] <WoM-Guest> :
#338 [09:50] <WoM-Guest> :\
#339 [09:51] <WoM-Guest> I still wont work
#340 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> WoM-Guest: Would you like to get an error log to us then?
#341 [09:51] <WoM-Guest> will that fix things?
#342 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> It will help us to know what's going wrong for you
#343 [09:51] <WoM-Guest> How do i do that
#344 [09:51] <WoM-Guest> o.o
#345 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> Follow the instructions on this page http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/903148-getting-and-identifying-error-logs/
#346 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> Then upload the error log to pastebin.com
#347 [09:53] <DiskDaemon> that'll keep him busy for a while, and should help to confirm whether he still has a patched minecraft.jar file when he gets back with the error log
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#349 [09:57] <Vampess> um
#350 [09:57] <lutzee> hey
#351 [09:57] <DiskDaemon> ??> ask Vampess
#352 [09:57] <Vampess> ah, I can talk here
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#354 [09:57] <DiskDaemon> ??> Vampess ask
#355 [09:57] <VoxelHead> Vampess: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#356 [09:57] <VoxelHead> Vampess: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#357 [09:58] <Vampess> I just bought the game, but it seems I'm getting the old creative inventory
#358 [09:58] <Calinou> Vampess, define "old" - also you have to download the full game's launcher
#359 [09:58] <lutzee> The new creative is only in the pre release snapshot versions of the game
#360 [09:58] <lutzee> these do not come as standard
#361 [09:58] <Vampess> ah-a
#362 [09:59] <Vampess> might want to clear that up on theb wiki then
#363 [09:59] <Vampess> the*
#364 [09:59] <Calinou> creative inventory is just some item selection list in 1.2.5 - snapshots have categories and searching in creative inventory
#365 [09:59] <Calinou> Vampess, no - if you want the new creative inv use the snapshot, but you can't play on "standard" multiplayer servers with them or use mods
#366 [09:59] <DiskDaemon> This page? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Inventory
#367 [09:59] <Vampess> yes, that page
#368 [10:00] <Vampess> hey it
#369 [10:00] <Vampess> s fine, I just couldnt figure out how to get to it
#370 [10:00] <Vampess> the wiki seems to indicate it comes with the game
#371 [10:00] <Calinou> gonna edit this
#372 [10:00] <Calinou> hey this is a wiki - everyone can edit it
#373 [10:00] <Vampess> .. and I'm a brand spanking new user?
#374 [10:00] <lutzee> The next full release of the game will include the new inventory, and yes the wiki is infact misleading
#375 [10:01] <DiskDaemon> You may want to add something in the Discussion section too, to help inform other editors about it too
#376 [10:01] <Calinou> done
#377 [10:01] <Vampess> anyways, thanks for the help :)
#378 [10:01] <Calinou> Vampess, still - you do not have to create an account to edit the wiki but your IP will be logged
#379 [10:01] <Vampess> I was driving myself mad trying to look for it, haha
#380 [10:01] <Vampess> I know
#381 [10:01] <Vampess> but I have nothing to add atm
#382 [10:03] <Vampess> alright, offf I go - I'm sure I'll be back at some point ;)
#383 [10:04] <Calinou> lolmibbit
#384 [10:04] <clarjon1> indeed.
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#392 [10:32] <jman10000> hey does anyone know wether or not theres a command u can type into WITHOUT being in the game to delete all entities
#393 [10:32] <Calinou> I have no idea; maybe worldguard can do this
#394 [10:32] <Calinou> ask in #bukkit maybe
#395 [10:33] <jman10000> well im using technic and i didnt something that acidentally spilled chests full of items on the ground and now i cant even log into it cuz it just crashes
#396 [10:33] <jman10000> did*
#397 [10:34] <Calinou> this is why you should backup your map, first
#398 [10:34] <Calinou> also, technic = singleplayer I presume?
#399 [10:34] <jman10000> yes
#400 [10:35] <Calinou> then you probably can't do much
#401 [10:35] <DiskDaemon> You can use MCEdit to manually select and remove those entities
#402 [10:35] <Calinou> mcedit doesn't like content mods IIRC
#403 [10:35] <jman10000> so it wont work?
#404 [10:35] <jman10000> and won't it crash too if i try to get in
#405 [10:36] <DiskDaemon> http://forums.technicpack.net/threads/how-to-clear-all-drops-without-console-access.11273/
#406 [10:36] <DiskDaemon> Worldedit is suggested there too
#407 [10:37] <jman10000> wow thanks ill try that
#408 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: I tend to come up with an idea, and then afterwards look for supporting evidence/information - it seems to work out most of the time
#409 [10:44] <rymate1234> l
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#412 [11:08] <Morrolan> \o/
#413 [11:08] <Morrolan> The wonders of hugs.
#414 [11:08] <Grim_Reaper> :p
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#416 [11:10] <SkilledScorpion> I can not work out what email is ascotied to my minecraft account
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#419 [11:18] <DiskDaemon> SkilledScorpion: You can use http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification and then check the email accounts you have access to, for the email they would have sent
#420 [11:19] <Morrolan> Eh, doesn't work since you can't verify a mail address which was verified already.
#421 [11:19] <DiskDaemon> SkilledScorpion: You can also go to your profile page at minecraft.net and see your email address with parts of it hidden
#422 [11:20] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraft.net/profile
#423 [11:20] <Morrolan> You can use the "reset my password" function though, but obviously this won't help much if it'll send to a mail account you've forgotten about long ago.
#424 [11:20] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#425 [11:20] <DiskDaemon> At least it'll help to prod memory of the email that is associated with the minecraft account
#426 [11:20] <Morrolan> But as DiskDaemon said, the partially visible mail address in your Minecraft.net profile might help you.
#427 [11:21] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#429 [11:41] <SkilledScorpion> i think i know what my email is but i might of made a typo when chooseing it and also i can't get into my account because it is migrated to a mojang accoount with the email i don't know
#430 [11:41] <DiskDaemon> Contact Mojang then, with your transaction ID and the what the new email should be
#431 [11:42] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
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#433 [11:49] <typhoonkj321> hey everyone i has a problem
#434 [11:50] <typhoonkj321> tits with the minecraft classic multiplayer
#435 [11:50] <typhoonkj321> its*
#436 [11:50] <typhoonkj321> and my chat and commands takes a second to function and go...
#437 [11:50] <typhoonkj321> explain and HALP PLZ
#438 [11:51] <Necrodoom> you lag
#439 [11:51] <typhoonkj321> ??? i dont have lag
#440 [11:51] <typhoonkj321> well not much anyways
#441 [11:51] <typhoonkj321> i always use the short render
#442 [11:51] <Necrodoom> i mean connection lag
#443 [11:51] <typhoonkj321> ???
#444 [11:51] <typhoonkj321> how do i fix?
#445 [11:52] <Necrodoom> join another server, which you have good connection to
#446 [11:52] <typhoonkj321> -_-' its that easy?
#447 [11:52] <typhoonkj321> but there isnt another aka freebuild server
#448 [11:53] <typhoonkj321> oh well thx anyways
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#457 [12:36] <Dolan> How often in the chance of an apple to fall from a tree? And what kind of trees do they fall out of?
#458 [12:36] <Dolan> is*
#459 [12:38] <DiskDaemon> about 1 in 200, from normal trees
#460 [12:39] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Red_Apple
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#462 [12:43] <grobi> hi, i've made a batch to give my server more ram but it appears to have still the same amount
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#464 [12:46] <grobi> noone?
#465 [12:47] <Morrolan> What's the content of that batchfile?
#466 [12:47] <Morrolan> And how do you know that it still has the same amount of RAM available?
#467 [12:47] <Morrolan> Lastly, how much RAM does your computer have?
#468 [12:48] <grobi> give me a sec
#469 [12:49] <grobi> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\javaw.exe" -Xmx2048m -Xms2048m -jar Minecraft_Server.jar --> content of the batch
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#471 [12:50] <grobi> and if i start my server my memory usage shows ~70mb 48% free so iam guessing that it doesnt use the 2 gig of ram. i got 8gb ram and a 64bit system
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#473 [13:00] <ir137> is it possible to purchase minecraft without having a money bookers account?
#474 [13:01] <grobi> @ir137 paypal works fine
#475 [13:01] <ir137> i tried paypal.it didnt work
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#477 [13:01] <Morrolan> grobi - Might be some quirk of the Windows Task Manager that it doesn't show the amount of memory the JVM was initialized with.
#478 [13:01] <grobi> you need to use your paypal at least once before it works with mojang
#479 [13:02] <ir137> ....
#480 [13:02] <ir137> why is this so complicated?
#481 [13:02] <grobi> morrolan not the taskmanager shows the amount of ram usage the server itself shows it
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#483 [13:03] <grobi> i hope you understand whyt i mean..my english isnt that great
#484 [13:03] <Morrolan> Oh, you're using the GUI version, that one has RAM usage stats, true.
#485 [13:03] <Morrolan> I assume the GUI only shows the amount of RAM it really uses at the moment, and not the one it can use at max.
#486 [13:04] <Morrolan> Though then the "Free percentage" is kinda off, seemingly.
#487 [13:05] <grobi> i hope so..but i still get a spike when anyone joins the server (the server shows then 100% usage for sec)
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#489 [13:07] <grobi> but thanx for the help anyway morrolan
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#492 [13:11] <impissed> i cant purchase minecraft
#493 [13:11] <geraldbrent> Why?
#494 [13:11] <impissed> i dont know.
#495 [13:11] <impissed> ive tried paypal and visa
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#497 [13:12] <geraldbrent> I would check out http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#498 [13:12] <impissed> that doesnt help.
#499 [13:12] <impissed> ive been there
#500 [13:13] <geraldbrent> Are you trying to use a credit or debit card?
#501 [13:13] <grobi> have you used your paypal before?
#502 [13:13] <impissed> so how the hell do i fix this?
#503 [13:13] <impissed> debit
#504 [13:13] <impissed> no
#505 [13:13] <grobi> i needed to use my paypal once before it worked with minecraft
#506 [13:13] <grobi> i needed to use my paypal once before it worked with minecraft
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#508 [13:14] <grobi> kinda pissed me off too
#509 [13:14] <impissed> so how do i use just a debit crad?
#510 [13:14] <impissed> card
#511 [13:14] <grobi> sorry dont know never used em
#512 [13:14] <DiskDaemon> ??> impissed attitude
#513 [13:14] <VoxelHead> impissed: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#514 [13:14] <VoxelHead> impissed: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#515 [13:14] <DiskDaemon> we'll help if we can, but that's about all we can do
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#517 [13:14] <geraldbrent> I would try moneybookers.
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#522 [13:37] <minecraft_> hi i am trying to login to mincraft and i check my email for the verification code but i have not got one yet. what should i do?
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#524 [13:38] <DiskDaemon> you should wait
#525 [13:38] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
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#527 [13:38] <minecraft_> well i have watied a half a hour and still got nothing
#528 [13:39] <DiskDaemon> please read that page before going any further
#529 [13:40] <minecraft_> im not trying to get a gift card code through a email verification code
#530 [13:40] <DiskDaemon> Would you like to tell us what you are trying to do instead?
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#532 [13:41] <Griffon26> Hi! I've been playing minecraft for a few weeks now, but have (mostly) avoided looking up crafting recipes on the web. It feels like just looking everything up would take away some fun from the game. Is there a way to gradually discover them as I progress? (besides trying all possible combinations of stuff by hand)
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#534 [13:41] <minecraft_> i am tring to get a email verification code but im an not getting one in my email
#535 [13:42] <DiskDaemon> Griffon26L There are plans to have that feature at some stage later in the game
#536 [13:42] <Griffon26> ok, so right now there's nothing I missed
#537 [13:42] <Griffon26> besides the achievements tree of course
#538 [13:42] <DiskDaemon> minecraft_: Check your spam and junk filters
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#540 [13:43] <DiskDaemon> Griffon26: indeed
#541 [13:43] <Griffon26> ok, thanks!
#542 [13:43] <minecraft_> i did but nothing i also tried to resend me the code but still got nothing
#543 [13:44] <DiskDaemon> Is it possible that you typed the email incorrectly?
#544 [13:45] <minecraft_> i rechecked it and its right
#545 [13:45] <DiskDaemon> What would you like is to do about this?
#546 [13:46] <DiskDaemon> *us
#547 [13:46] <minecraft_> well i want to make a account but i cant because i cant get me email verification code!!!
#548 [13:47] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here works for Mojang. We are community volunteers who help as and where we can.
#549 [13:47] <minecraft_> well thank for not helping very well
#550 [13:47] <DiskDaemon> It's possible though that something from this article may help http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#551 [13:48] <DiskDaemon> I'm not sure of what you expect us to be able to do to help
#552 [13:48] <minecraft_> thanks for your help bye
#553 [13:48] <DiskDaemon> thank you, come again
#554 [14:03] <Griffon26> lol =)
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#573 [15:30] <zolartuc> hey on my minecraft world there are no cacti i have searched the whole map help
#574 [15:30] <zolartuc> for xbox
#575 [15:31] <Grim_Reaper> o.O
#576 [15:31] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe.. they haven't put cacti in yet? not sure
#577 [15:31] <zolartuc> they have i was on my mates xbox and he has cacti
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#579 [15:31] <Devin> No.
#580 [15:31] <Devin> It's not in xbox version
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#582 [15:32] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/P1lof.gif
#583 [15:32] <zolartuc> im sure it is cos it says on green dye cactus green
#584 [15:32] <Ti22fizz> Can anyone help my Minecraft account got hacked? And I can't remember emails password
#585 [15:32] <DiskDaemon> sure thing
#586 [15:33] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#587 [15:33] <zolartuc> help
#588 [15:33] <Devin> hm I guess I'm wrong, apparently there are
#589 [15:34] <DiskDaemon> zolartuc: xbox maps are incredibly restricted, to only a 1024 square area. You'll need to generate different maps to find what you need
#590 [15:34] <Devin> OH there's no cacti in android
#591 [15:34] <zolartuc> ok but i really want it in a map i have that i have loads of houses and stuff on
#592 [15:35] <DiskDaemon> zolartuc: With the xbox version, you are restricted to only what is within each map
#593 [15:35] <zolartuc> oh ok thanks
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#599 [16:00] <Needhelp> I can't play on servers I always get Connection Lost Intermal exception: Java.net.SocketException: Connection reset or something like that!
#600 [16:00] <Devin> Are you on a snapshot?
#601 [16:00] <Needhelp> Nope
#602 [16:01] <Devin> You can play single-player all good, right?
#603 [16:01] <Needhelp> Yes I can
#604 [16:02] <Devin> Have you ever been able to play multiplayer before?
#605 [16:02] <Needhelp> Yes jsut a few days ago everything worked fine.
#606 [16:03] <Calinou> Needhelp, check your firewall maybe, also what antivirus are you using?
#607 [16:03] <DiskDaemon> Can you please get the actual error message to us?
#608 [16:03] <Devin> Damn ._. Make sure there's not been a firewall update that could be blocking it
#609 [16:03] <Calinou> he somehow did DiskDaemon
#610 [16:03] <Calinou> "Connection Lost Intermal exception: Java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#611 [16:04] <Needhelp> I check my firewall added a rule that Minecraft is allowed to the internet, I use Norman.
#612 [16:04] <Calinou> you mean norton? > "oh god - why"
#613 [16:04] <DiskDaemon> I've seen that error message when the client and server are using different versions
#614 [16:04] <Needhelp> No Norman
#615 [16:04] <Calinou> try connecting to this server and tell me if it works: s.nerd.nu
#616 [16:04] <Calinou> (.nu not .ru)
#617 [16:07] <Needhelp> worked for about 1min then I get the " Connection Lost Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#618 [16:07] <Calinou> > firewall, wifi or antivirus-related issue, very likely
#619 [16:07] <DiskDaemon> Needhelp: Are you getting HTML tags around it too?
#620 [16:07] <Calinou> are you using a wireless adapter? - try using ethernet, or use another adapter
#621 [16:08] <DiskDaemon> Needhelp: Are you getting this? "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Connection reset</center></font></body></html>"
#622 [16:08] <Needhelp> No I'm not getting HTML tags, I'm not on a wireless adapter
#623 [16:08] <Calinou> Needhelp, are you using ethernet then?
#624 [16:09] <Needhelp> Yes I'm using ethernet.
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#626 [16:11] <Keira_t> I have a question
#627 [16:11] <Calinou> what question?
#628 [16:12] <Keira_t> I just bought minecraft and attempted to launch it but for some reason it keeps hanging up
#629 [16:12] <Calinou> Keira_t, we need more information ;) any error message? what operating system?
#630 [16:13] <Keira_t> windows 7 home premium, and there are no error messages, it just sits at the loading screen
#631 [16:13] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#632 [16:13] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#633 [16:13] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#634 [16:13] <Calinou> Keira_t, do what VoxelHead says
#635 [16:14] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: Has VoxelHead ever considered a rename to Simon?
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#637 [16:14] <Calinou> lol.
#638 [16:14] <lutzee> o/ marc
#639 [16:14] <Calinou> oh hey, Marc_IRL
#640 [16:14] <Marc_IRL> HOW I MINE FISH?
#641 [16:14] <Calinou> HOW I MINE FOR FISH
#642 [16:14] <DiskDaemon> with dynamite!
#643 [16:15] <Marc_IRL> Oh.
#644 [16:15] <Calinou> spare monies for a noob?
#645 [16:15] <Keira_t> http://pastebin.com/jvWvizJ0
#646 [16:17] <Marc_IRL> So, good news. Support is going to get super speedy in the next month or two.
#647 [16:17] <Calinou> err, isn't that a pretty old graphics card Keira_t?
#648 [16:17] <Calinou> Marc_IRL, *not too early* feel ;) gj anyway
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#650 [16:17] <Keira_t> that graphics card can run fallout on low
#651 [16:18] <Keira_t> *fallout 3
#652 [16:18] <Ti22fizz> When is the Xbox Minecraft update for sprint and hunger?
#653 [16:18] <Marc_IRL> Probably July
#654 [16:18] <Calinou> Ti22fizz, noone knows
#655 [16:19] <Calinou> Marc_IRL, is what 4J says ;)
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#657 [16:19] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: Ah, how come?
#658 [16:19] <lutzee> so marc, new member for support? or is it lydia returning?
#659 [16:19] <Calinou> Keira_t, that graphics card will probably have some problems running minecraft - while it will run it will probably not be very fluid; contrary to common belief, minecraft does require a good computer
#660 [16:19] <Marc_IRL> Lydia doesn't do support stuff.
#661 [16:20] <Marc_IRL> We have... plans. We'll be caught up hopefully in a month and a half.
#662 [16:20] <Ti22fizz> I hope it's soon they should of just released the game on the same update as the pc platform
#663 [16:20] <DiskDaemon> I see reports of that graphics card achieving respectable 30+ fps with Minecraft
#664 [16:20] <Boreeas> "plans"
#665 [16:20] <Calinou> oh okay
#666 [16:20] <Boreeas> suspicious dots right there
#667 [16:20] <Morrolan> Search Notch's twitter for "World dominance", I'm sure you'll get quite a few results. ;D
#668 [16:20] <Calinou> Keira_t, try updating your graphic card drivers, see nvidia's website - do not let windows update touch your drivers
#669 [16:21] <lutzee> was just wondering, more people answering faster things would go is all
#670 [16:21] <Keira_t> calinou, okay
#671 [16:21] <Calinou> it'll probably help, also once you've done this, do this:
#672 [16:21] <Calinou> ?? win/reinst
#673 [16:21] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#674 [16:21] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#676 [16:27] <Keira_t> I erased the stuff in the directory and relaunched, when it tries to update, it gets to this "retrieivng: lwjgl.jar"
#677 [16:27] <Devin> And stays there?
#678 [16:28] <Devin> If any, what anti-virus software are you using?
#679 [16:28] <Calinou> Keira_t, running any antivirus? AVG?
#680 [16:28] <Keira_t> yes, avg
#681 [16:28] <Calinou> if you use AVG disable "link scanner" module
#682 [16:28] <Calinou> spotted! :3
#683 [16:28] <Calinou> (false positive; I swear minecraft has no virus) ;)
#684 [16:29] <Devin> heh c;
#685 [16:29] <Keira_t> there is goes
#686 [16:29] <Keira_t> *it
#687 [16:29] <Keira_t> thank you so much
#688 [16:29] <Calinou> no problem :)
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#690 [16:38] <Fel> How can I fix the error java.net.SocketException:Permission denied:connect ?
#691 [16:38] <zkxs> Fel: Are you using the applet or the launcher?
#692 [16:39] <Fel> Launcher
#693 [16:39] <Marc_IRL> Does AVG often block Minecraft from updating?
#694 [16:39] <Devin> Yes
#695 [16:40] <lutzee> the link scanner causes big problems
#696 [16:40] <zkxs> AVG doesn't like lwjgl
#697 [16:40] <Marc_IRL> No one tells me these things
#698 [16:40] <DiskDaemon> The only solution at this state is to disable the link scanner and/or AVG completely, update, then re-enable
#699 [16:40] <zkxs> Fel: What version of java are you running?
#700 [16:41] <Fel> Java 7, I've reinstalled it to try to fix the problem.
#701 [16:41] <zkxs> Fel: If you aren't sure, you can check here: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#702 [16:41] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Another one is taht people using Java 7 (now the default java) are having their computer try to connect using IPv6 and fail. One solution is to add a java parabeter to force IPv4, but the easier solution is to ahve them downgrade to Java 6 instead
#703 [16:41] <zkxs> Fel: The problem *is* java 7, it isn't very stable with minecraft. Downgrading to java 6 will fix the problem
#704 [16:42] <Fel> Oh, thanks a ton!
#705 [16:42] <Marc_IRL> Is this something the developers can look at and fix? Because we tell people to make sure Java is updated, and if that's actually the problem, that's no good.
#706 [16:42] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Here's a thread and the fix for reference http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#707 [16:43] <ShaRose> Actually, that's probably something mollstam can fix. Assuming that minecraft.net has ipv6 records or something.
#708 [16:44] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: If possible, developers might want to look at using the default IP connection, and if that fails to then fall back on to the other one, if possible
#709 [16:44] <ShaRose> I'm running java 7 and I play just fine.
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#711 [16:44] <ShaRose> Or, you know, tell the client to default to ipv4.
#712 [16:44] <lutzee> same seems to be some machines though that it doesn't like
#713 [16:45] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, this stuff is so far out of my league... I just answer questions about accounts and stuff. Real troubleshooting requires that the user gives us full info (which almost never happens) and for me to have a direct connection to the devs and we can work together to find the issue (which we don't)
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#715 [16:45] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL eh
#716 [16:45] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I'm working on collating successful troubleshooting from here, with an index of types of errors, and potentially also problem/cause/solution information
#717 [16:45] <ShaRose> that's because niether dinnerbone or grum or anyone hangs out in here Marc_IRL
#718 [16:46] <Grim_Reaper> Oh look it's Marc_IRL again :o
#719 [16:46] <Marc_IRL> Most of the emails that I would get would be like "I can't connect to Minecraft.net", and my answer is "Maybe there's something wrong with your computer, but I dunno what it is, because it'd take hours of troubleshooting and more technical know-how than I possess".
#720 [16:46] <Marc_IRL> But if you tell me you can't log in, well then I just look up your account ^_^
#721 [16:47] <Marc_IRL> Also, Dinnerbone does hang out in the Reddit IRC
#722 [16:47] <clarjon1> Marc_IRL: i have a problem, i can't log into mojang accounts ;3
#723 [16:47] <zkxs> Marc_IRL: It sounds like you are in the exact opposite of the boat we are in. We can solve anything technical, but for account issues we are useless :P
#724 [16:47] <Marc_IRL> Basically
#725 [16:47] * clarjon1 waits to be hit over the head
#725 [16:47] <lutzee> dinnerbone hangs arround in #risucraft too i believe
#726 [16:47] <Marc_IRL> clarjon1: Really?
#727 [16:47] <ShaRose> all of them hang out in #Risucrafty
#728 [16:47] <ShaRose> hell, jeb joins every now and then
#729 [16:47] <clarjon1> =D
#730 [16:48] <Grim_Reaper> I like Dinnerbone for his tripwire addition
#731 [16:48] <Marc_IRL> I like him because he takes my suggestions sometimes :D
#732 [16:48] <ShaRose> ditto!
#733 [16:48] <Grim_Reaper> I like Jeb the most though
#734 [16:48] <Grim_Reaper> I would totally offer him my sock.. just so he can wear it on his hand x_X
#735 [16:48] <Grim_Reaper> A clean one of course :|
#736 [16:49] * clarjon1 smirks
#736 [16:49] <Marc_IRL> Aren't you the one who was suggesting that I sell snotty Notch napkins the other day? You're making this weird!
#737 [16:49] <Morrolan> You just like him because of his hair, admit it, Grim_Reaper!
#738 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL I do my best to make things weird. It keeps the chat interesting :p
#739 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> Also naa not his hair
#740 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> It's totally the glasses
#741 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#742 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> Maybe the beard
#743 [16:49] <Morrolan> Ah, I thought the hair made you kind of soulmates. :D
#744 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> lol Morrolan
#745 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> Come to think of it
#746 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> thats a possibility XD
#747 [16:50] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
#747 [16:50] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#747 [16:50] <Marc_IRL> So, test question
#748 [16:51] * Grim_Reaper listens
#748 [16:51] <Marc_IRL> Someone complains that their Minecraft account is "hacked". Barring the fact that it's extremely unlikely, what would you tell them? Or ask them?
#749 [16:51] <DiskDaemon> We would send them to the Mojang article about hacking
#750 [16:51] <zkxs> Reset their password
#751 [16:51] <ShaRose> it's not really unlikely that they got bruteforced or the password stolen
#752 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL
#753 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> I would ask them the following
#754 [16:52] <zkxs> If it actually *is* hacked, then unless their email is stolen, they are fine
#755 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> Does anybody possibly have some form of access to your account? Any friends?
#756 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> Weak email password?
#757 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> Weak minecraft password?
#758 [16:52] <Grim_Reaper> Chances are, they got "hacked" due to a weak password
#759 [16:52] <Marc_IRL> The first thing I'd ask is... have you migrated your account?
#760 [16:52] <ShaRose> http://www.v6edu.com/dnstest/dnstest/2718/report Marc_IRL this is why they are saying they can't connect.
#761 [16:52] <Marc_IRL> Because if they have not, you can't change the email address on it.
#762 [16:52] <ShaRose> (assuming it lets you see it)
#763 [16:53] <ShaRose> tl;dr minecraft.net doesn't have any ipv6 records atm
#764 [16:53] <ShaRose> so just get someone to edit the launcher so it launches in ipv4 mode
#765 [16:53] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: Yeah, that sounds like a mollstam thing
#766 [16:53] <Morrolan> Half of them use the same password for their mail account and their Minecraft account, so this won't matter much.
#767 [16:53] <ShaRose> or add ipv6
#768 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan yeah
#769 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> I wrote a detailed guide about passwords the other day :|
#770 [16:53] <Marc_IRL> Well, this sort of assumes that they haven't lost control of their email account as well
#771 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL yes
#772 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> The most common reason is silly passwords :|
#773 [16:53] <Marc_IRL> Basically, that they don't completely fail at life
#774 [16:54] <DiskDaemon> June 6 is when the big switchover occurred - it's time to catch up to IPv6 if at all practical now
#775 [16:54] <Morrolan> You must be new to tech support. :P
#776 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> I've been doing this about 7 years :p
#777 [16:54] <zkxs> We get people who have hacked emails asking us for help ;)
#778 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#779 [16:54] <Morrolan> Quite a number of people in here would be tagged as "Fail at life" if it were for me.
#780 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> lol Morrolan
#781 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> I would probably be one of those
#782 [16:54] <Morrolan> looking for help in here, not regulars in here.
#783 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> So, if everything has been hacked, I can't help them :p
#784 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> But giving me a transaction ID lets me edit anything on your account that you want
#785 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> What about people who've been gifted?
#786 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> How do you go about that?
#787 [16:55] <ShaRose> still applies
#788 [16:55] <Boreeas> Marc be hacking our accounts
#789 [16:55] <DiskDaemon> or the gift code instead
#790 [16:55] <ShaRose> still applies
#791 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> That's a bit more of a slippery slope, because multiple people could technically have that gift code
#792 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> I was gifted during alpha. So I dont have a code
#793 [16:55] <zkxs> Also, I would educate them about the MITM attack that is going around
#794 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> Especially if like someone gives away a gift code
#795 [16:55] <ShaRose> zkxs that'll be fixed in 1.3
#796 [16:55] <ShaRose> it's fixed now in the snapshots
#797 [16:56] <Morrolan> Encryped encryption key, yay.
#798 [16:56] <Morrolan> encrypted*
#799 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL so if my account got stolen,
#800 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> What would you be able to do?
#801 [16:56] <ShaRose> stab you
#802 [16:56] <Grim_Reaper> because I was gifted during alpha. i was not given a gift code
#803 [16:56] <Marc_IRL> what's your username?
#804 [16:57] <Grim_Reaper> Grimster101
#805 [16:57] <ShaRose> Mine is ShaRose (omg no wai)
#806 [16:57] <Marc_IRL> I show that Grimster101 was purchased via Paypal, not upgraded from a code.
#807 [16:57] <Grim_Reaper> Sadly Grim_Reaper was taken already
#808 [16:57] <Morrolan> Grimster101? GrimReaper taken already?
#809 [16:57] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL yeah
#810 [16:57] <Morrolan> Ah.
#811 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> I take it that there are internal records of previous email addresses? If a hacker tries to change it are you able to confirm knowledge of prior email addresses?
#812 [16:58] <Marc_IRL> So you'd give me your transaction ID
#813 [16:58] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL my friend bought it from her account and gifted it to me that way
#814 [16:58] <Grim_Reaper> So i dont have said transaction id
#815 [16:58] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Unfortunately not. Until recently, I couldn't even tell if you'd previously had premium status.
#816 [16:58] <ShaRose> itt we learn that minecraft's backend stuff is really, really bad
#817 [16:58] <Grim_Reaper> So I assume.. i would have to get the trans id from my friend right?
#818 [16:58] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: And that's the trouble with procuring an account in a non traditional way. It's like buying a car from a guy on the street, instead of from a dealer (or someone who had all the paperwork taken care of)
#819 [16:59] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: Yeah, that'd be easiest.
#820 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> Hehe oky
#821 [16:59] <Marc_IRL> In 99% of situations, someone can easily find their transaction ID
#822 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> Well least you know my account and me on here
#823 [16:59] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, but I still technically have no idea if you own that account
#824 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> But yeah. I wish I could have used Grim_Reaper or something for my username ;-;
#825 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> Oh I do :3
#826 [16:59] <Grim_Reaper> That I can verify easily enough
#827 [16:59] <Marc_IRL> So I wouldn't edit anything for you unless I had that ID
#828 [17:00] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah makes sense
#829 [17:00] <Marc_IRL> People always say they can prove they own an account, but all of those ways can be photoshopped, unless you give me a transaction ID
#830 [17:00] <Marc_IRL> "I have proof of me in game!"
#831 [17:00] <Grim_Reaper> yeah
#832 [17:00] <Marc_IRL> "Yeah, then why does your username say Notch??"
#833 [17:00] <Grim_Reaper> The best proof I could most likely offer is to send an email from the email with my account
#834 [17:00] <Grim_Reaper> Assuming I couldn't get trans id
#835 [17:01] <Marc_IRL> That could also work, although it's at the bottom of the list of things that we like to ask for
#836 [17:01] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: Well, because he is, obviously
#837 [17:01] <ShaRose> it's my account, I said mine was ShaRose on irc and people have played with me for years
#838 [17:01] <ShaRose> also it's registered to ShawnAndrewRose@Gmail.Com
#839 [17:01] <Grim_Reaper> inb4 viagra spam ShaRose
#840 [17:01] <ShaRose> gmail, good luck
#841 [17:01] <zkxs> Grim_Reaper: If the account is still associated with your email, you could just use this: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#842 [17:01] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: An IRC nickname is not considered proof of account ownership :p
#843 [17:01] <Grim_Reaper> zkxs yes
#844 [17:01] <ShaRose> I haven't seen spam in a very long time
#845 [17:02] * Boreeas never saw spam
#845 [17:02] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL also, I don't ever delete emails so I have my transaction ID :V
#846 [17:02] <Marc_IRL> That helps
#847 [17:02] <Marc_IRL> I deleted mine right away, but I can always get it back by contacting Paypal.
#848 [17:02] <Grim_Reaper> But paypal keeps records of all trans ID"s though right?
#849 [17:02] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#850 [17:02] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL why would you DELETE email
#851 [17:03] <Marc_IRL> Because I use hotmail :p
#852 [17:03] <ShaRose> oh.
#853 [17:03] <ShaRose> get gmail
#854 [17:03] <ShaRose> fool
#855 [17:03] <Boreeas> Okay, next question. Why do you use hotmail?
#856 [17:03] <Grim_Reaper> I remember when I was younger, some dude hacked my hotmail account and forum accounts
#857 [17:03] <Marc_IRL> Because I've been using it since 7th grade
#858 [17:03] <Grim_Reaper> But alas, I made the mistake of using a reaaaaly weak password
#859 [17:03] <Boreeas> You should be able to get a marc@mojang.com address
#860 [17:03] <Grim_Reaper> From that day, I learned the hard way
#861 [17:03] <Marc_IRL> I didn't know that Gmail was a lot better until I started using it for work, since all Mojang emails run off of Gmail
#862 [17:03] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL y u no forward
#863 [17:03] <Marc_IRL> Boreeas: Congrats, you've guessed my work email :p
#864 [17:03] <Grim_Reaper> brb spamming marc
#865 [17:04] <Boreeas> \o/
#866 [17:04] <Marc_IRL> Brb, deleting Minecraft account
#867 [17:04] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#868 [17:04] <Grim_Reaper> I would rather have a cape then my mc account deleted thanks ;-;
#869 [17:04] <zkxs> You can use Gmail to send and receive from your hotmail account
#870 [17:04] <ShaRose> Grim_Reaper I have him stalked, it's HIM spamming ME if anything :V
#871 [17:04] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#872 [17:04] <ShaRose> "Mojang employee? Time to /stalk"
#873 [17:04] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, but until the cape system is more fully implemented, I couldn't give you one even if I wanted to
#874 [17:05] <Grim_Reaper> Theres a cape system being implemented?
#875 [17:05] <Morrolan> Yea, Grim_Reaper, it can take another year at max. :)
#876 [17:05] <Boreeas> Capes!
#877 [17:05] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL I thought it was 'place gif in folder'
#878 [17:05] <Boreeas> I saw people using capes. I want some, too D:
#879 [17:05] <ShaRose> png*
#880 [17:05] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: I've heard mention of it
#881 [17:05] <Grim_Reaper> I thought there were just capes for mojang employees and those people that went to whats its face
#882 [17:05] <Marc_IRL> This is all public stuff, btw
#883 [17:05] <Grim_Reaper> I would assume so Marc_IRL :p otherwise you wouldn't tell us :p
#884 [17:05] <DiskDaemon> capes have only been given out at specal times
#885 [17:05] <Grim_Reaper> I still remember at christmas..
#886 [17:05] <Marc_IRL> So far
#887 [17:05] <Boreeas> Everyone in Alpha received one, iirc
#888 [17:05] <DiskDaemon> Such as to people going to the vegas event, or as a xmas/news year gift
#889 [17:06] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Nope.
#890 [17:06] <DiskDaemon> I'm alpha, I don't recall having a cape though
#891 [17:06] <Grim_Reaper> I enjoyed my christmas cape that one year
#892 [17:06] <Boreeas> Ah, MC Forums information then, I guess
#893 [17:06] <Morrolan> Hehe.
#894 [17:06] <Grim_Reaper> I felt like a boss!
#895 [17:06] <Morrolan> Christmas cape was cute, indeed.
#896 [17:06] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#897 [17:06] <Morrolan> 'specially since my skin's a tree. ;D
#898 [17:06] <Marc_IRL> I believe this is correct: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Skin#Capes
#899 [17:06] <Grim_Reaper> lol Morrolan
#900 [17:07] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I still have 4 unused alpha gift codes. Is there any possible way that I can donate them back to the company for charity in some manner?
#901 [17:07] <Grim_Reaper> Kinda sad that us alpha players dont get all the updates for free or whatever anymore from what I heard. But I can see it somewhat being unfair for the beta players etc etc
#902 [17:07] <Grim_Reaper> DiskDaemon, maybe make a post on the forums
#903 [17:07] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: I have no idea
#904 [17:07] <Grim_Reaper> And offer them that way
#905 [17:07] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: Untrue
#906 [17:07] <ShaRose> [Tuesday 06:37:17 pm] <Grum> ShaRose: pfft not joining more channels ;(
#907 [17:07] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Last I heard he'd stick to that, err
#908 [17:07] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL and that's why he won't join
#909 [17:08] <Morrolan> promise*
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#911 [17:08] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan from what I heard, thats changed or something
#912 [17:08] <Grim_Reaper> But then again rumors spread like fire
#913 [17:08] <Boreeas> ShaRose: Let's invite spam him
#914 [17:08] <DiskDaemon> yes, I might do something on the forums later on. Or reddit
#915 [17:08] <Marc_IRL> People need to stop with the alpha rumors
#916 [17:08] <ShaRose> let's not
#917 [17:08] <Morrolan> Alpha was actually beta!
#918 [17:09] <Grim_Reaper> Beta felt like alpha to me xP
#919 [17:09] <Marc_IRL> Is there really still confusion on this whole alpha thing?
#920 [17:09] <Grim_Reaper> But with some extra... coolness in places
#921 [17:09] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL yes
#922 [17:09] <Grim_Reaper> TONS
#923 [17:09] <Morrolan> Haven't seen anyone asking about it in a while, but seems there still is. *shrug*
#924 [17:09] <Grim_Reaper> DiskDaemon, maybe tweet jeb or something
#925 [17:09] <Marc_IRL> Alpha users were promised free updates for life. And you haven't had to pay for an update, have you?
#926 [17:09] <Morrolan> None had to pay so far, so that is kind of irrelephant. ;)
#927 [17:10] <Marc_IRL> And?
#928 [17:10] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL not as of yet. But theres been rumors that, that promise will change or something
#929 [17:10] <Morrolan> The question doesn't arise until there's an addon or similar, anyway. :)
#930 [17:10] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: Show me proof that came from an employee, and not some trolling ten year old
#931 [17:10] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL no word from employee.
#932 [17:10] <DiskDaemon> The zeitgeist is that alpha would receive benefits of some kind over an above beta or release accounts. The accuracy of that is contested though
#933 [17:10] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan yeah
#934 [17:10] <Morrolan> There's a reason it's "rumors" and not "Facts", Marc_IRL.
#935 [17:10] <zkxs> "trolling ten year old" <-- average minecraft user
#936 [17:10] <Grim_Reaper> Theres speculations that when theres some dlc kinda thing, everybody will have to pay for it or something
#937 [17:10] <Marc_IRL> It has never been stated that alpha users would receive benefits of some kind over anyone else, with the exception of free updates for life
#938 [17:11] <Marc_IRL> That IF we ever decided to do paid DLC. At this time, there are no such plans.
#939 [17:11] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
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#941 [17:11] <Grim_Reaper> Either way Im happy with mc
#942 [17:11] <Marc_IRL> That can change at any time
#943 [17:11] <Grim_Reaper> I love the snapshots
#944 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> That's right, I'm not claiming that's the case, just that it's what the existing zeitgeist is for people trying to get their heads around it
#945 [17:11] <Grim_Reaper> Thats one thing I look forward to every time
#946 [17:11] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, well, the reality of the situation is very simple, and people can make up whatever they want, but it still doesn't change it.
#947 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Newyearscloak.png dont remember that one. I was probably offline
#948 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL indeed
#949 [17:12] <Marc_IRL> Man, if only there was some kind of help article on it to make people quit their bitchin' :p
#950 [17:12] <DiskDaemon> That's why we correct these things where we can as we see them
#951 [17:12] <Marc_IRL> BRB
#952 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#953 [17:12] <Boreeas> At least we can quote you now
#954 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#956 [17:13] <DiskDaemon> Well there is this thread post that seems to cover the Alpha situation well. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/799942-for-those-of-you-confused-about-alphabeta-benefits/
#957 [17:13] <Grim_Reaper> Does anybody else here play the snapshots besides me?
#958 [17:13] <DiskDaemon> I check them out each week
#959 [17:13] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#960 [17:14] <DiskDaemon> I also check out Paul Soares Jr's video on the snapshot updates that he does too
#961 [17:14] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#962 [17:14] <Grim_Reaper> I usually just use the wiki to check stuff like that out and twitter
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#964 [17:15] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#965 [17:15] <Grim_Reaper> Hax
#966 [17:15] <Morrolan> ??< index
#967 [17:15] * DiskDaemon is shocked, and gives thanks
#967 [17:15] <Grim_Reaper> I have no idea who set that
#968 [17:15] <Morrolan> There's a factoid about this with, if my memory serves me right, a quote somewhere in Vox's DB.
#969 [17:15] <Grim_Reaper> Must have been Morrolan :3
#970 [17:15] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#971 [17:16] <Marc_IRL> Anyone remember where it was posted that the incentive was no longer being offered. Some Notch blog post around christmas, maybe?
#972 [17:16] <Grim_Reaper> [23:15] * ChanServ sets mode: +v DiskDaemon
#973 [17:16] <Grim_Reaper> Nope
#974 [17:16] <DiskDaemon> ?? premium
#975 [17:16] <VoxelHead> premium: Both Alpha and Beta premium users will get bug fixes, updates, patches, and the final release of the game for free. This has not changed. The only difference between the two is the potential aspect of future expansions beyond final release. Alpha users were promised these future expansions for free, while people that bought it during Beta were not.
#976 [17:16] <DiskDaemon> That one?
#977 [17:16] <Jakob> My client keeps crashing on the main menu. I've tried literally everything. The only fix I have found is if I log out and log back into Windows. It's getting worse though, usually doing that would make it work for a while but now after running it once it starts doing the same thing
#978 [17:16] <Morrolan> Sounds about right.
#979 [17:16] <Grim_Reaper> Have you tried reinstalling Jakob?
#980 [17:16] <Grim_Reaper> Also are you running any mods?
#981 [17:17] <Jakob> no mods, and I've tried deleting .minecraft entirely
#982 [17:17] <Marc_IRL> VoxelHead: Are you quoting an article or something? Can you link me to that?
#983 [17:17] <zkxs> ?? bot
#984 [17:17] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#985 [17:17] <Morrolan> VoxelHead is abot.
#986 [17:17] <Jakob> I've also force updated several times
#987 [17:17] <Morrolan> a bot*
#988 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead is a bot, and that entry was written by me
#989 [17:17] <DiskDaemon> Content for most of its factoids is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
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#991 [17:17] * Grim_Reaper hugs GreyVulpine
#991 [17:17] * GreyVulpine grabs a rubber stamp, inks it thoroughly, and stamps onto DiskDaemon's forehead, "One Of Us".
#991 [17:17] <Jakob> I have all the latest drivers for my hardware as well
#992 [17:17] <Grim_Reaper> Jakob, have you always had this issue?
#993 [17:18] * DiskDaemon laminates
#993 [17:18] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Oh, neat paste.
#994 [17:18] <zkxs> Jakob: Do you know how to start minecraft from a terminal?
#995 [17:18] <Jakob> Grim_Reaper: It's been happening since like 1.6
#996 [17:18] <Boreeas> DiskDaemon: Cool, thanks
#997 [17:18] <Grim_Reaper> hmm..
#998 [17:18] <Grim_Reaper> zkxs might be able to help you perhaps
#999 [17:18] <Jakob> zkx: I know how to on linux, not windows
#1000 [17:19] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right >.>
#1001 [17:19] <DiskDaemon> as I've been up for over 24 hours though, it's time for me to give thanks, and turn in
#1002 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Hey Marc_IRL - http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2175441966/minecraft-beta-december-20-2010
#1003 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> I believe that was what you were looking for
#1004 [17:19] <Grim_Reaper> Night night DiskDaemon
#1005 [17:19] <Marc_IRL> danke
#1006 [17:19] <Grim_Reaper> Umm Jakob. Perhaps it's some setting with your video drivers perhaps?
#1007 [17:19] <Jakob> It could be... but I have the latest drivers.
#1008 [17:20] <zkxs> Jakob: We can get error output the easy way, by using http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/.minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar, or we can use command prompt
#1009 [17:20] <Jakob> Lets just use command prompt
#1010 [17:20] <Grim_Reaper> Jakob, sometimes theres a setting yourgraphics drivers might be applying to mc which could cause it
#1011 [17:20] <Grim_Reaper> also what version of java are you using?
#1012 [17:20] <Jakob> the latest
#1013 [17:20] <zkxs> lol, ok, shady looking file
#1014 [17:20] <Jakob> I reinstalled today
#1015 [17:20] <Grim_Reaper> 1.7 I presume?
#1016 [17:21] <Grim_Reaper> Theres known issues with 1.7 last I heard
#1017 [17:21] <zkxs> Jakob: You will need to get the .jar launcher. https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1018 [17:21] <Grim_Reaper> So you may want to uninstall that, restart, then install 1.6
#1019 [17:21] <Jakob> C:\Users\Jakob>java -version
#1020 [17:21] <Jakob> java version "1.6.0_26"
#1021 [17:22] <Boreeas> Looks fine, but it's not the latest
#1022 [17:22] <Jakob> yeah
#1023 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1024 [17:22] <Jakob> i see
#1025 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> 1.6 is fine then
#1026 [17:22] <Boreeas> The latest is 1.6.0_33
#1027 [17:22] <Jakob> oh
#1028 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> I think Im using 0_26 as well
#1029 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> have both 32bit and 64bit installed
#1030 [17:22] <zkxs> As long as you have 1.6, you're good and it isn't java
#1031 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> [23:20] <+zkxs> Jakob: We can get error output the easy way, by using http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/.minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar, or we can use command prompt
#1032 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> I would follow that though
#1033 [17:22] <Grim_Reaper> See if you can find something there
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#1035 [17:23] <zkxs> Last time wugbot went down, I grabbed a copy of the modded launcher in case it happened again
#1036 [17:23] <Jakob> MCH-Launcher.jar froze on Done Loading -.-
#1037 [17:23] <Jakob> that's the first time that's happend to me
#1038 [17:24] <zkxs> Go to %appdata%\.minecraft and open minecraft.log
#1039 [17:24] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Hey folks. Does anyone know how to disable Nvidia's error reporting?
#1040 [17:24] <GreyVulpine> nvidia's error reporting?
#1041 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#1042 [17:25] <Jakob> http://pastebin.com/2cgFKnWT
#1043 [17:25] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Sure. I'm not sure if you remember me from yesterday, but I was speaking with Grim_Reaper and Kealper regarding Minecraft issues.
#1044 [17:25] <Grim_Reaper> Oh hey there t1b3r1um_tr00per. I remember you
#1045 [17:26] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> :D
#1046 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Jakob - What is your windows username?
#1047 [17:26] <Jakob> Jakob?
#1048 [17:26] <Jakob> Why?
#1049 [17:26] <Grim_Reaper> Nvidia's error reporting.. I assume it's somewhere in the control-panel
#1050 [17:26] <Grim_Reaper> Though I cant be 100% sure
#1051 [17:26] <GreyVulpine> Just wondering if it has any ! symbols in it
#1052 [17:26] <Grim_Reaper> Perhaps try googling that
#1053 [17:26] <Jakob> Nope.
#1054 [17:26] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/56FU6.gif
#1055 [17:27] <zkxs> Well, there are no errors there :( I suppose we can try using command prompt
#1056 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1057 [17:27] <Jakob> hmmm
#1058 [17:27] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Yeah I'll give it ago :) I feel I am getting closer. I disabled a Nvidia service and Minecraft performance has been far greater but still getting flickering screens and freezes, but thanjkfuly BSOD seems to have gone. Touch wood. :)
#1059 [17:27] <Grim_Reaper> :D
#1060 [17:28] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I wish I never went 64OS, should have stayed on 32bit XP, Minecraft was fine on that lol
#1061 [17:28] <Marc_IRL> Here's the new article pertaining to alpha status: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/600767-purchases-made-during-alpha
#1062 [17:28] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Hey Marc_IRL
#1063 [17:28] <Marc_IRL> Hopefully this is official enough for everyone :p
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#1065 [17:29] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Folks is it true there is memory leaks within Minecraft?
#1066 [17:29] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks Marc_IRL :3
#1067 [17:29] <zkxs> Jakob: This is the minecraft client: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar If you start it from the command prompt using `java -jar minecraft.jar`, it should display an error log
#1068 [17:30] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Jakob: is the link for me? :)
#1069 [17:30] <Jakob> What link? :p
#1070 [17:30] <zkxs> t1b3r1um_tr00per: No, it is for Jakob
#1071 [17:30] <Grim_Reaper> t1b3r1um_tr00per naa it's for Jakob
#1072 [17:30] <Grim_Reaper> Damnit ninja'd
#1073 [17:30] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> theOhh lol
#1074 [17:30] <zkxs> :P
#1075 [17:30] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Ohh*
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#1077 [17:31] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Sorry my bad. My head is up my own trumpet. Lack of Minecraft gameage
#1078 [17:31] <DekuBaka> Could somebody help me? I can't get villagers to rade with me.
#1079 [17:31] <DekuBaka> *trade
#1080 [17:31] <Grim_Reaper> DekuBaka right click on them
#1081 [17:31] <Grim_Reaper> Also make sure you're using the latest snapshot
#1082 [17:31] <DekuBaka> Doesn't work.
#1083 [17:31] <lutzee> DekuBaka, you are using the snapshot correct?
#1084 [17:31] <DekuBaka> Nothing happens. I just got the game a couple weeks ago
#1085 [17:31] <DekuBaka> So I assume so
#1086 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> If you didn't manually download the snapshot, villager trading is not part of the stable build
#1087 [17:32] <Grim_Reaper> DekuBaka you need to use the snapshots in order to do trades
#1088 [17:32] <Boreeas> DekuBaka: Actually, there are pre-release which offer content before it's stable.
#1089 [17:32] <lutzee> ^ well done guys
#1090 [17:32] <DekuBaka> You have to download snapshots separately?
#1091 [17:32] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1092 [17:32] <DekuBaka> That explains a lot I guess.
#1093 [17:32] <lutzee> yes, they are available on the mojang website
#1094 [17:33] <Morrolan> ?? snapshot
#1095 [17:33] <Boreeas> Yes. The snapshots are not part of the normal release cycle and may contain bugs, so they need to be installed separately.
#1096 [17:33] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w17a/minecraft.jar
#1097 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Whoops
#1098 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> That's old
#1099 [17:33] <DekuBaka> Thanks a bunch
#1100 [17:33] <Morrolan> Hehe.
#1101 [17:33] <DekuBaka> Cheers guys, thanks for the help
#1102 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w24a/minecraft.jar
#1103 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#1104 [17:33] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w24a/minecraft.jar
#1105 [17:33] <lutzee> 7 weeks old that one? hehe
#1106 [17:33] <Grim_Reaper> That snapshot was waaay out of date lol
#1107 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> Better
#1108 [17:34] <Jakob> http://puu.sh/C9C5
#1109 [17:34] <Jakob> Not showing any errors... :/
#1110 [17:34] <zkxs> Well, that isn't cool. I suppose I can offer you the generic answer of upgrading your GFX drivers
#1111 [17:34] <Jakob> They are up to date, though.. D:
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#1113 [17:35] <Marc_IRL> People have been trying to tell me they deserve the Xbox 360 Edition for free if they bought in Alpha, showing me all kinds of semantic technicalities or whatever. I'd never been able to put it into words, but the reason it's not offered for free was that they were offered updates to the game, and PE and Xbox360E ARE games, not updates.
#1114 [17:35] <Grim_Reaper> How did you update them
#1115 [17:35] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL yeah. The xbox and other editions non pc dont need to be given for free
#1116 [17:35] <Grim_Reaper> It's seperate :|
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#1118 [17:35] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL these people are idiots
#1119 [17:35] <Marc_IRL> I've had people create presentations on why they DEMAND it for free
#1120 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> Some people were pretty damned hostile
#1121 [17:36] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#1122 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> We've had a few of those as well
#1123 [17:36] <lutzee> ._. but they aren't even linked to the same account are they?
#1124 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> No
#1125 [17:36] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL I would sooo LOVE to see the customers who get angry with you in terms of their replies
#1126 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> I was like, we didn't even develop Xbox 360 Edition! We couldn't offer that for free if we wanted to, because of Microsoft!
#1127 [17:36] <Grim_Reaper> I would be so happy just to read and laugh
#1128 [17:36] <ShaRose> I would love that
#1129 [17:36] <Jakob> Start -> Computer (right click) -> Manage -> Device Manager -> Display Adapters -> NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (right click) -> Update Driver Software
#1130 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> The response was: "So Microsoft is to blame? I will take it up with them."
#1131 [17:36] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1131 [17:36] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah thats your issue Jakob
#1132 [17:36] <Jakob> :o
#1133 [17:36] <ShaRose> I hope they did
#1134 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> This was actually over Twitter, not an email
#1135 [17:37] <ShaRose> hahahahhaa
#1136 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> Windows doesn't update drivers that way
#1137 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> At least for your graphics card
#1138 [17:37] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL WHERE
#1139 [17:37] <Jakob> I hate windows.
#1140 [17:37] <ShaRose> I WANT TO SEE
#1141 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> You need to actually go to nvidia's site
#1142 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> And get the driver from there
#1143 [17:37] <Jakob> okay, I'll try that
#1144 [17:37] <Jakob> xD
#1145 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1146 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> You'd have to dig through my tweets from the last month or two. In the end, I was just really frustrated with the guy. I'm glad I have an article now.
#1147 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> Can somebody define in aubot about that
#1148 [17:37] <Grim_Reaper> Lol Marc_IRL
#1149 [17:37] <readtimeoutissues> I ran a server that worked but was laggy so transfered all the server files to friends computer, but i cant connect to his server but others can, I keep getting read time out while logging into it, some times it gets as far as to say its downloading terrain then it will throw the error my way
#1150 [17:38] <Morrolan> Might want to ask your friend to remove your player.dat file from the world folder.
#1151 [17:38] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1152 [17:38] <readtimeoutissues> ok il ask him now
#1153 [17:38] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine?
#1154 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1155 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> Can you add a def for the whole.. updating drivers via device manager is NOT the way to update them?
#1156 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Write something up
#1157 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> Give me a keyword you want to use
#1158 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> k
#1159 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> ?driver_update can be the keyword i think
#1160 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> As for sentence.
#1161 [17:39] <Boreeas> drive/update
#1162 [17:39] <Boreeas> +r
#1163 [17:39] <Morrolan> And no, "Grim_Reaper_is_awesome/updating" is NOT a valid keyword. >:D
#1164 [17:39] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1165 [17:40] <Morrolan> ??< gpu/update
#1166 [17:40] <Grim_Reaper> "Windows cannot update your Graphics Drivers from device manager. You need to visit the site such as nvidia.com to obtain driver updates for your video card."
#1167 [17:40] <Marc_IRL> Oh, apparently we do have emails about that. One guy asks when he can expect Pocket Edition and Xbox 360 Edition in the mail. I see at least three things wrong with that question. *sigh*
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#1170 [17:41] <Grim_Reaper> Poor Marc_IRL
#1171 [17:41] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL I'd have a template response for those already tbh
#1172 [17:41] <Marc_IRL> The reason I didn't have a template response is because searching by keywords "alpha" and "xbox" only returned 4 results. In no way would it have been worth my time to create a canned response for four emails.
#1173 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1174 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Grim_Reaper - You mind if I put it under windows/driverupdate?
#1175 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> Thats fine GreyVulpine
#1176 [17:42] <Grim_Reaper> As long as we have it defined somewhere :p
#1177 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> ??+ windows/driverupdate|Windows cannot update your Graphics Drivers from device manager. You need to visit the site such as nvidia.com to obtain driver updates for your video card.
#1178 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> ?? windows/driverupdate
#1179 [17:42] <VoxelHead> windows/driverupdate: Windows cannot update your Graphics Drivers from device manager. You need to visit the site such as nvidia.com to obtain driver updates for your video card.
#1180 [17:43] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL read email, if it's one of those template away
#1181 [17:43] <DiskDaemon> before I nod off to sleep, could that be updated to be more generic, and mention the amd site as well?
#1182 [17:43] <ShaRose> it doesn't have to be automated, you just won't have to type it all up
#1183 [17:43] <Morrolan> there is gpu/amd gpu/nvidia and gpu/intel
#1184 [17:43] <Morrolan> Which contains the specific sites each.
#1185 [17:44] <Morrolan> ?? gpu/amd
#1186 [17:44] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1187 [17:44] <Morrolan> For example.
#1188 [17:44] <Grim_Reaper> @Imgur just scored me some followers xP
#1189 [17:44] <readtimeoutissues> hi, yeh my friend deleted the players.dat file but still no luck, keep getting the read time out message....oh he runs a technic - tekkic server
#1190 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> ??~ windows/driverupdate|Windows cannot update your Graphics Drivers from device manager. You need to visit your video card manufacturer's website such as nvidia.com or amd.com to obtain driver updates for your video card.
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#1192 [17:44] <Grim_Reaper> For retweeting my reply to them
#1193 [17:44] <Jakob> okay just updated
#1194 [17:44] <Jakob> trying again....
#1195 [17:44] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#1196 [17:45] <Morrolan> Might want to restart your computer, just to be sure, Jakob.
#1197 [17:45] <Jakob> SOO GLAD IT WORKED
#1198 [17:45] <Morrolan> If it doesn't work yet, that is.
#1199 [17:45] <Morrolan> Ah. :)
#1200 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> ah good one, on all counts
#1201 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> YAY \o/
#1202 [17:45] <Jakob> Grim_Reaper, zkxs thanks for your help!
#1203 [17:45] <Morrolan> readtimeoutissues - You did install that mod as well, right?
#1204 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> Anytime :3
#1205 [17:45] <Morrolan> And you're using the correct version?
#1206 [17:45] <Grim_Reaper> Just hope it doesn't happen again for you Jakob
#1207 [17:45] <zkxs> Glad it's working
#1208 [17:45] <lutzee> Morrolan, tekkit is self installing
#1209 [17:45] <Morrolan> Ah.
#1210 [17:45] <Morrolan> No client-sided mod needed?
#1211 [17:46] <Morrolan> Or is it just a custom launcher?
#1212 [17:46] <lutzee> yes both sides are self installing
#1213 [17:46] <lutzee> custom launcher
#1214 [17:46] <readtimeoutissues> yup did all that...its all installed client and server side
#1215 [17:46] <Morrolan> lutzee - Ah, okay.
#1216 [17:46] <Morrolan> readtimeoutissues - Heck, chances are it's that mod causing the issue, might want to ask in its forum thread / IRC channel (if there is one) as well.
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#1218 [17:47] <Morrolan> Since if it works for other people, gets stuck at downloading terrain and deleting your player.dat file doesn't help I'm out of ideas.
#1219 [17:47] <readtimeoutissues> ok thank you anyway..i will try reinstalling minecraft and the mod
#1220 [17:47] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#1222 [17:51] <TOADER2517> My minecraft acount is not premuim and i payed a few days ago
#1223 [17:52] <Boreeas> Payments can take a couple of days to process. If the problem persists, please refer to http://help.mojang.com
#1224 [17:52] <Boreeas> Oh okay
#1225 [17:53] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1226 [17:53] <Grim_Reaper> Poor Boreeas
#1227 [17:53] <Morrolan> Either that or he's a quick reader.
#1228 [17:53] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#1237 [18:15] <Guest__> hey guys anyone knows, how can i report a bug? Minecraft has a bug tracker?
#1238 [18:16] <lutzee> What is the problem?
#1239 [18:17] <Guest__> maps gerator issue
#1240 [18:18] <lutzee> Does minecraft crash?
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#1242 [18:19] <Guest__> nope biosphere creation problems
#1243 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> Night
#1244 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> There is a bugtracker.. ish thing on the wiki
#1245 [18:19] <Grim_Reaper> ~night
#1246 [18:20] <lutzee> biosphere is a mod i believe
#1247 [18:20] <lutzee> We don't support mods here
#1248 [18:20] <Guest__> i mean map creator issue, like snow in desert
#1249 [18:21] <Guest__> im not joking i ha ve a screenshot
#1250 [18:21] <lutzee> Did you update the map from a previous version of the game?
#1251 [18:21] <Guest__> yes
#1252 [18:21] <Guest__> from version 1.1 to 1.2.5
#1253 [18:23] <lutzee> Yes, this is probably expected, when the game changes the maptype the biomes get lest and regenerate using the new map format code, thus ending up with snow biomes where deserts were
#1254 [18:23] <lutzee> this cannot be avoided
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#1257 [18:29] <Guest__> this is a blocker bug, probaly mojang knows about that!
#1258 [18:30] <lutzee> this is something that cannot be fixed, at all.
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#1260 [18:35] <Gunslinger2> good eeeeevening.....infidels :)
#1261 [18:36] <mickster04> :D
#1262 [18:36] <mickster04> Kia 'ora bro
#1263 [18:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Silence! I keel you!
#1264 [18:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Silence! I keel you!
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#1267 [18:39] <shane1395> i need help with a minecraft download
#1268 [18:39] <Amaranth> Guest__: Biomes at least won't change from 1.2 forward because the biome data is stored with the chunk rather than being calculated from the seed
#1269 [18:39] <lutzee> What is the problem
#1270 [18:40] <Amaranth> Guest__: But there is no way to get your 1.1 map to 1.2.5 without having biomes shift a bit because one of the biomes was removed iirc
#1271 [18:40] <shane1395> anyone know if i can somehow talk to a minecraft represenative
#1272 [18:40] <Amaranth> shane1395: For what?
#1273 [18:40] <shane1395> im having big issues
#1274 [18:41] <Amaranth> Such as?
#1275 [18:41] <shane1395> i purchased the game on thursday or friday emailed minecraft through the minecraft support and the game still hasn't downloaded
#1276 [18:41] <lutzee> shane1395, what is your minecraft user name?
#1277 [18:41] <shane1395> shane1395
#1278 [18:42] <lutzee> !paid shane1395
#1279 [18:42] <lutzee> hmm okay
#1280 [18:42] <lutzee> How did you pay?
#1281 [18:42] <shane1395> visa credit card under my fathers account
#1282 [18:42] <Amaranth> Oh, neat, a bot for that. I was looking up the URL to do it manually :)
#1283 [18:43] <shane1395> ??
#1284 [18:43] <lutzee> shane1395, can you check to see if the money has left the account
#1285 [18:43] <lutzee> recieving a reciept number does not verify the payment has gone through successfully
#1286 [18:43] <Amaranth> shane1395: Were you logged in to his account on minecraft.net when you bought the game?
#1287 [18:43] <shane1395> i have no idea how to srry.... i tiped visa on google went on the site but couldnt find out
#1288 [18:44] <shane1395> no this is my account he never bought the game before
#1289 [18:44] <lutzee> shane1395, you will need to have your dad access his online banking to look
#1290 [18:44] <shane1395> he gave me a mini credit card or whatever they r called
#1291 [18:44] <GreyVulpine> Or call the customer support number on the back of the card
#1292 [18:44] <Amaranth> prepaid?
#1293 [18:44] <shane1395> ??
#1294 [18:44] <shane1395> no
#1295 [18:44] <shane1395> its accs to his account
#1296 [18:44] <shane1395> but
#1297 [18:45] <shane1395> its a seperate credit card under my name i can use
#1298 [18:46] <lutzee> shane1395, you will need to ask him to sign onto his bank accounts online banking service to check to see if the money has left the account
#1299 [18:46] <lutzee> ask him that, he will understand
#1300 [18:46] <shane1395> k
#1301 [18:46] <shane1395> 2 more things
#1302 [18:47] <shane1395> first r all of u minecraft support?
#1303 [18:47] <shane1395> second if it does say it was paid for what should i do
#1304 [18:47] <GreyVulpine> We are all volunteers here, just fans of the game who donate their time to the community
#1305 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> If it was paid for, you'll need to contact Mojang directly, and wait for a response from them
#1306 [18:48] <shane1395> u mean through the help button on minecraft.com
#1307 [18:48] <GreyVulpine> Through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1308 [18:48] <shane1395> thx
#1309 [18:49] <CrusaderDeleters> [18:47] shane1395 first r all of u minecraft support?
#1310 [18:49] <CrusaderDeleters> No, it's called #minecrafthelp because we reject questions, silly one. XD
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#1312 [18:49] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: NO INDEPENTAANT THOUGHTA
#1313 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> I think what he was really asking, is if we were Mojang staff
#1314 [18:49] <Wug> THOUGHTS*
#1315 [18:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Sorry, someone has to troll. c:
#1316 [18:49] <shane1395> yeah.... a dumb question... sorry about that
#1317 [18:49] <mib1235> hello any mojang staff members here?
#1318 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> No.
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#1320 [18:50] <Wug> mib1235: nope
#1321 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> It's alright, shane. I just had to troll that question. c:
#1322 [18:50] <mib1235> how do i contact them?
#1323 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1324 [18:50] <mib1235> thank you
#1325 [18:50] <crimzen> Hello, this is the first time i've used this i was wondering if i could get some minecraft assistance with a current bug out right now
#1326 [18:50] <Wug> mib1235: why do you need to
#1327 [18:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Got questions? Need answers? Check ehre first. c:
#1328 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> crimzen - What bug?
#1329 [18:50] <crimzen> i have some links
#1330 [18:50] <crimzen> to bug references
#1331 [18:50] <GreyVulpine> Fire away
#1332 [18:50] <crimzen> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/691132-minecraft-causes-video-driver-crash-on-ati-rage-performance-drivers/
#1333 [18:50] <mib1235> i just wanted to report a website that is breaching mojang's terms of service in regards to minecraft
#1334 [18:51] <crimzen> http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29019143/minecraft-crashes-my-display-drivers
#1335 [18:51] <crimzen> either one
#1336 [18:51] <crimzen> WIndows 7 HD radeon series
#1337 [18:51] <crimzen> EVERYTHING
#1338 [18:51] <crimzen> is up to date
#1339 [18:51] <crimzen> those expalin my problem
#1340 [18:51] <crimzen> but im trying to play
#1341 [18:51] <crimzen> i get 5 - 25 min of game play
#1342 [18:51] <crimzen> my video card will crash
#1343 [18:51] <crimzen> and come back
#1344 [18:51] <crimzen> freezing my game
#1345 [18:51] <crimzen> very annoying.
#1346 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> 0.0
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#1348 [18:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Open web page, skin, see a wall of text.
#1349 [18:52] <Dronex10> someone help me with something real fast?
#1350 [18:52] <Wug> crimzen: has it always done that
#1351 [18:52] <crimzen> yes
#1352 [18:52] <Wug> or did it start one day
#1353 [18:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Drone
#1354 [18:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Problem?
#1355 [18:52] <crimzen> From day one
#1356 [18:52] <GreyVulpine> Completely nuke and reinstall amd drivers
#1357 [18:52] <Wug> crimzen: download speedfan and check if you're overheating
#1358 [18:52] <Dronex10> Im confused about something, in a mod configuartion file does a higher or lower rarity number make things more common
#1359 [18:52] <crimzen> negative
#1360 [18:52] <Wug> or do what grey said
#1361 [18:52] <crimzen> CPU usage under 1%
#1362 [18:52] <crimzen> it is impossible for overheating
#1363 [18:52] <lutzee> Dronex10, we do not support mods here
#1364 [18:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Uh... I think higher rarity is More common.
#1365 [18:52] <crimzen> lol
#1366 [18:52] <Wug> gpu and cpu are different
#1367 [18:53] <lutzee> ask in #risucraft about mods
#1368 [18:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Just set it to 0 and compare with a map of 10.
#1369 [18:53] <Dronex10> I tried going to #risucraft but they are just talking about yogscast
#1370 [18:53] <crimzen> true but i have lowered settings to 0 and then tried overclocking and still same results
#1371 [18:53] <crimzen> ill try nuking
#1372 [18:53] <Wug> Dronex10: ask and be patient
#1373 [18:53] <Wug> crimzen: overclocking would make overheating worse
#1374 [18:53] <crimzen> right.
#1375 [18:53] <crimzen> but i was trying all possiblities
#1376 [18:53] <crimzen> to get Minecraft towork
#1377 [18:53] <Dronex10> wug: i did, 3 times, and they just sit there talking about yogscast forums, and seasons
#1378 [18:54] <Wug> crimzen: just download speedfan and report back based on the temperatures
#1379 [18:54] <CrusaderDeleters> No worries, jsut make one map for 0, and another for 10. See the differences in how common.
#1380 [18:54] <Wug> specifically if there are any above about 80
#1381 [18:54] <lutzee> Dronex10, well it all depends on the code for the mod, ask on the mods MCF thread.
#1382 [18:55] <Wug> Dronex10: you waited like a minute
#1383 [18:55] <Wug> you might have to be patient
#1384 [18:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug, I was already getting to him.
#1385 [18:55] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
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#1387 [18:56] <crimzen> Okay Wug got speed fan ima start up minecraft
#1388 [18:56] <crimzen> and report when it fails
#1389 [18:56] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I need a Minecraft ub3r expert. Anyone around?
#1390 [18:57] * CrusaderDeleters looks at everyone who is voiced/op'd/a select few.
#1390 [18:57] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: there are more of those in this channel than there are in the entire rest of the universe
#1391 [18:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1392 [18:57] <Wug> crimzen: is speedfan running
#1393 [18:58] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Possibly. Who would like to help me? I'd really appreciate some help. 4 days in to trying to get Minecraft working properly amd :/
#1394 [18:58] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> amd*
#1395 [18:58] <crimzen> yes wug
#1396 [18:58] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> blah
#1397 [18:58] <Wug> k
#1398 [18:58] <crimzen> CRASH happened within 30 secs
#1399 [18:58] <crimzen> reporting...
#1400 [18:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't ask to ask.
#1401 [18:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Just ask your question.
#1402 [18:58] <Wug> crimzen: how hot was the cpu
#1403 [18:58] <Wug> gpu*
#1404 [18:58] <crimzen> temp1: 67 . GPU 55 C
#1405 [18:58] <crimzen> GPU 55C
#1406 [18:59] <Wug> k, its not overheating then
#1407 [18:59] <crimzen> core 1-4 : 65, 62, 66 ,55
#1408 [18:59] <crimzen> No there are alot of people
#1409 [18:59] <Wug> nuke the drivers and reinstall from scratch
#1410 [18:59] <crimzen> having issues with this
#1411 [18:59] <crimzen> HD RAdeon 6XXX series
#1412 [18:59] <crimzen> i have like 10 pages of links
#1413 [18:59] <crimzen> of people having this issue un resolved
#1414 [18:59] <Wug> if the problem persists you might try an older version
#1415 [18:59] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Well, my issues are either freezing, BSODs, black screens, When I was on XP never had a minecraft problem. Tried allsorts of driver updates, cleaners and everything.
#1416 [18:59] <CrusaderDeleters> I heard HD Radions keep persisting.
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#1418 [19:00] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: minecraft freezes or windows does
#1419 [19:00] <crimzen> how to nuke with the batshit crazy Cataylyst control center wug
#1420 [19:00] <shane1395> i just wanted to say thx again i checked my credit card balance and i guess their was a mess up in the payment
#1421 [19:00] <CrusaderDeleters> t1: windows key + r, DXDiag, save all information onto your desktop.
#1422 [19:00] <Wug> crimzen: start from the control pane;
#1423 [19:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Ohdatshane. c:
#1424 [19:00] <crimzen> k
#1425 [19:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Noone told you to check yoru bank first? :o
#1426 [19:00] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Well, had both to be fair. Sometimes windows has recovered from a crash, sometimes not. Weird really. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1296437-mc-freezes-please-help-me/ is my topic if you'd like to read more in to it.
#1427 [19:01] <Wug> shane1395: its a common antifraud thing
#1428 [19:01] <CrusaderDeleters> t1b3r1um_tr00per: windows key + r, DXDiag, save all information onto your desktop.
#1429 [19:01] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> And paste it here?
#1430 [19:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Open of the Informational text, go to http://pastebin.com, and paste it in there.
#1431 [19:02] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Okie dokie,
#1432 [19:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Save that paste, and then give us the link.
#1433 [19:02] <Wug> I can think of 2 things
#1434 [19:02] <Wug> mm maybe 3
#1435 [19:02] <crimzen> Windows 7 64 bit HD Radeon 6700 i7 quad core, dd6 8g : 1 g DEDICated mem
#1436 [19:02] <Wug> one is a memory error, especially if you just got new memory or hardware
#1437 [19:03] <Wug> two is a driver issue. since so many people have the issue, its probably a bug, not an install issue
#1438 [19:03] <crimzen> where to nuke driver wug
#1439 [19:03] <crimzen> !
#1440 [19:03] <crimzen> cataylst being a fucking bitch!
#1441 [19:03] * AuBot kicked crimzen from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rimzen :Please keep it civil.)
#1442 [19:04] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Okie dokie. http://pastebin.com/7v0f9K9a
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#1444 [19:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Tiber, does minecraft give you an error when it crashes?
#1445 [19:05] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: you say it worked fine on windows xp. has it ever worked on vista?
#1446 [19:05] <Wug> there are a few known vista issues
#1447 [19:05] <Wug> all around, vista just sucks
#1448 [19:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Vista does.
#1449 [19:06] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> No. I notice recently with current hardware drivers screen flickers, and say a spider in a spawner vanishes and then as I try Ctrl alt del, I get a BSOD with a Nvidia sys file.
#1450 [19:06] <CrusaderDeleters> That's why Windows 7 came out, for gamers.
#1451 [19:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Nvidia is crashing? 0.0
#1452 [19:06] <CrusaderDeleters> You have an 8800 with 2 grams.
#1453 [19:07] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Well, I understand what you're saying, but due to rl commitments I can't afford new HW or OS. So my Vista key is legit
#1454 [19:07] <CrusaderDeleters> HW?
#1455 [19:07] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Hardware* sorry
#1456 [19:07] <Wug> hardware
#1457 [19:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh.
#1458 [19:07] <CrusaderDeleters> The hardware is not the problem.
#1459 [19:07] <CrusaderDeleters> In fact,
#1460 [19:07] <Wug> crimzen: is it not in the control panel at all
#1461 [19:07] * CrusaderDeleters steals the card and runs away./
#1461 [19:07] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Lol
#1462 [19:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Vista is just bad.
#1463 [19:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Windows 7 was created because of this reason.
#1464 [19:08] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Please bare in mind when I was on XP, Minecraft was fantastic on MAX.
#1465 [19:08] <crimzen> wug : I went to device mangaer
#1466 [19:08] <crimzen> and unstialled
#1467 [19:08] <CrusaderDeleters> XP is also a gaming Os
#1468 [19:08] <Wug> crimzen: not good enough
#1469 [19:08] <CrusaderDeleters> It's just not anymore because 7 has improved ram and chip functions.
#1470 [19:09] <CrusaderDeleters> XP > Vista, in gaming. You could try to switch back to xp for the sake of gaming, if you are a gamer.
#1471 [19:09] <crimzen> <Wug> suggestions?
#1472 [19:09] <Wug> crimzen: is it not in the control panel at all?
#1473 [19:09] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I could, but there was a problem in XP lol.
#1474 [19:09] <CrusaderDeleters> :o
#1475 [19:09] <CrusaderDeleters> What was it?
#1476 [19:10] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: do you have any issues with anything else
#1477 [19:10] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Back in 07 I could run all high-end games on MAX, Stalker,Quake 4, Cnc3, Aoe3, etc... But Random crashes on desktop. But in games it were fine,
#1478 [19:10] <Wug> specifically any other opengl games, or software in general
#1479 [19:11] <Wug> crimzen: that is a question, which expects an answer
#1480 [19:11] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I emigrated to spain some time ago,m so I have only recently got my old gaming machine back you see. Buty back then tons of people had 8800 driver issues, and looks like they still are around.
#1481 [19:12] <crimzen> wug : sorry
#1482 [19:12] <crimzen> WuG: im looking for unstialling
#1483 [19:12] <crimzen> WUg: it appears to be unintalled im not sure what u are asking
#1484 [19:12] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: I think running a memtest would be a good idea
#1485 [19:13] <Wug> I'm really not sure but theres no point in not trying
#1486 [19:13] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> So things are in reverse right now, on XP when on desktop random crashes, but in every game was fine, now on VIsta 64bit, Windows fine, Minecraft not. Most of my games are still in spainb :S
#1487 [19:13] <Wug> crimzen: is there an entry for the catalyst control panel in add/remove programs
#1488 [19:13] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Wug: I did a memtest earlier, PC doctor tests, all those kind of tests in DOS, but all results were fibne.
#1489 [19:14] <Wug> in that case its probably just a bad combination of driver and OS
#1490 [19:14] <Wug> you could download ubuntu
#1491 [19:14] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I believe the card physicly is fine, as of the games I played back in the day on XP.
#1492 [19:15] <Wug> if it is a vista driver issue it will work on ubuntu
#1493 [19:15] <crimzen> <Wug> Unstialling every amd software
#1494 [19:15] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> What is that, Wug ?
#1495 [19:15] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: its an operating system
#1496 [19:16] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Oh, tell me more. Unfortunately as we've been speaking Windows has now activated my key Agh! didn't really want it to just incase I duel OS with linux or something.
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#1498 [19:16] <Wug> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
#1499 [19:17] <Wug> normally I dont give out ubuntu advice
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#1501 [19:17] <Wug> its a thing of the distant past really
#1502 [19:17] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Please give me some advice lol
#1503 [19:18] <Wug> used to be common back when there were a lot of people on problematic intel chips with horrible drivers
#1504 [19:18] <Wug> I think weve updated every single outdated intel driver
#1505 [19:18] <Wug> in like the whole world
#1506 [19:18] <Wug> its been a long time since ive seen one
#1507 [19:19] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: well, download ubuntu. are you on 64 bit? you are right
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#1509 [19:19] <Wug> grab the 64 bit one
#1510 [19:19] <crimzen> <wug>just restarted
#1511 [19:19] <Wug> its a pretty large download
#1512 [19:19] <crimzen> <Wug> everything nuked
#1513 [19:19] <Wug> crimzen: is your screen resolution horrible
#1514 [19:19] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Yeah, it asked me a flavour, I wanted Mint choc chip, but it wasnt in the list :P
#1515 [19:20] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: get 64 bit flavor :)
#1516 [19:20] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Yeah 64. Sorry been at this for 4 days it has driven me crazy
#1517 [19:20] * t1b3r1um_tr00per wants to hug a creeper
#1517 [19:20] <crimzen> <Wug> no it was at first then driver self updated
#1518 [19:20] <Wug> crimzen: thats a step forward I guess
#1519 [19:20] <crimzen> <wug> redownloading catalyst control center and updating
#1520 [19:20] <Wug> download the most up to date driver
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#1522 [19:21] <Wug> if I understand correctly, the rage drivers are special performance optimized ones
#1523 [19:21] <Wug> dont get that, get the regular one
#1524 [19:21] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: you should be downloading a .iso file
#1525 [19:22] <Wug> once you have it, burn the image to a CD
#1526 [19:22] <Wug> theres a bunch of free software that can do that if you dont have any
#1527 [19:22] <crimzen> <wug> that directed to me?
#1528 [19:22] <Wug> crimzen: no
#1529 [19:22] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Yeah, just realised it is an ISO lol. I hope I havce a spare 700mb disc
#1530 [19:22] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: boot to it and test minecraft
#1531 [19:23] <Wug> it should come with java on it, though its probably outdated
#1532 [19:23] <Omega_Guardian> heard Win7 doesn't even have 100% proper disc image support :P
#1533 [19:23] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Oh. So I don't need to partition for a new OS?
#1534 [19:23] <Wug> the graphics driver on the disk might not be up for it either
#1535 [19:23] <Wug> no, you can just boot to the cd to test it
#1536 [19:23] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> and if it works?
#1537 [19:23] <Wug> if you want to keep it you can add a partition and install to it
#1538 [19:23] <Wug> 25GB should be plenty big
#1539 [19:24] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> :/ dilema...
#1540 [19:24] <Wug> you can probably shrink your windows partition by that much and stick it in there somewhere
#1541 [19:24] <Wug> the cd includes a utility for resizing partitios
#1542 [19:24] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Oh really????!!!
#1543 [19:24] <CrusaderDeleters> You can shrink sizes? D:
#1544 [19:24] <Wug> mmhm
#1545 [19:24] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> So I won't have to fdisk and lose my stuff?
#1546 [19:25] <Wug> nope
#1547 [19:25] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> EXCELLENT
#1548 [19:25] <CrusaderDeleters> I wished I knew that so then I can copy my entire HDD onto my 16 gig flash. :c
#1549 [19:25] * t1b3r1um_tr00per phews
#1549 [19:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Good thing Windows 7 doesn't technically format anyways.
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#1551 [19:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Ohdatbot.
#1552 [19:25] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I am glad really. with Vista just activating my key not long ago lol
#1553 [19:26] <Wug> t1b3r1um_tr00per: I only had 1 xp key left
#1554 [19:26] <Wug> so I installed it to a 10GB partition and dumped it to an image file
#1555 [19:26] <CrusaderDeleters> I have zero w7 keys left. c:
#1556 [19:26] <CrusaderDeleters> I've always had none since my first format. ._.
#1557 [19:26] <Wug> I zipped the crap out of it and it fits on a CD
#1558 [19:26] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> To be fair, if my legit key was here, I'd have gone back to XP but may have needed to ask Microsoft for another activation :S
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#1560 [19:27] <CrusaderDeleters> tiber, if you know where to look
#1561 [19:27] <CrusaderDeleters> you can reenter your key and then activate windows anyways
#1562 [19:27] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Well XP is kinda there but as Windows.old
#1563 [19:27] <zzboy96> I forgot the email address for my mine craft account :S
#1564 [19:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Thank vista for not reformatting. c:
#1565 [19:27] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Lol. Luckily I upgraded :D
#1566 [19:28] <zzboy96> I forgot the email address for my mine craft account :S
#1567 [19:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Vista and 7 do not reformat. XD
#1568 [19:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Vista and 7 do not reformat. XD
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#1570 [19:28] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#1571 [19:28] <Wug> ..
#1572 [19:28] <CrusaderDeleters> if he gave us time to speak.
#1573 [19:28] <CrusaderDeleters> He's just one of those "I rule the world, everyone should jsut shut up and listen to me" kind of people. :c
#1574 [19:28] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Only because I need to back stuff up, so maybe it happened for a reason lol.. When I get some spare money, I will get a new rig. As long as I can get by and just play Minecraft, then I'm happy. lol
#1575 [19:29] * t1b3r1um_tr00per prays to god. Look pal, I aint asking for much, I just wanna play Minecraft.
#1575 [19:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Tiber, all you need is windows 7. c:
#1576 [19:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Your gcard is good. (gimmegimmegimme!)
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#1578 [19:29] <crimzen> <WUG> welll ima stay online for now my driver self updated, but im downloading CCC and its probably gonna give me a new driver update but for now MInecraft is working
#1579 [19:29] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> If I had the coin, I would. I heard you only get 1 activation though :@
#1580 [19:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Not sure bout the processor, but better than mine.
#1581 [19:30] <crimzen> <WUG> so thank you ill tell u if it crashes
#1582 [19:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Tiber, you can actually get more than one activation.
#1583 [19:30] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Legit way?
#1584 [19:30] <Wug> ok
#1585 [19:30] <CrusaderDeleters> I have two machines running off of one os, both are activated.
#1586 [19:30] * CrusaderDeleters nods.
#1586 [19:30] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Ah
#1587 [19:30] <CrusaderDeleters> 100%.
#1588 [19:30] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> By ringing M$?
#1589 [19:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope.
#1590 [19:31] <CrusaderDeleters> I browsed the control panel, and found out how.
#1591 [19:31] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Go on :)
#1592 [19:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Too bad it was a one-time thing and I forgot. c:
#1593 [19:31] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Hahaha
#1594 [19:31] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Can't we just go back to playing games in DOS? lol
#1595 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#1596 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Go ahead.
#1597 [19:32] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> lol
#1598 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> "You see a spider!" "Attack, run, yield."
#1599 [19:32] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> :p;
#1600 [19:32] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Lol*
#1601 [19:32] <GreyVulpine> I remember having to deal with extended and expanded memory.. and TSR programs in DOS..
#1602 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> "yield." "You just died!"
#1603 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm not old enough to remember past '95. c:
#1604 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> or somethign. ._.
#1605 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> You missed out on the fun
#1606 [19:33] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> WHat year were you born?
#1607 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> '94.
#1608 [19:33] <GreyVulpine> Wow, youngins.
#1609 [19:33] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Ah 86 here
#1610 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Nice.
#1611 [19:33] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Not really lol
#1612 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#1613 [19:33] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Being 26 sucks.
#1614 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> I grew up playing the N64.
#1615 [19:34] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> My parents got me a C64 as a boy. Had to learn to use it myself :S
#1616 [19:34] <CrusaderDeleters> You need a job, and your own palce at 26. XD
#1617 [19:34] <CrusaderDeleters> :s
#1618 [19:34] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I have lol
#1619 [19:34] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> And engaged to my woman
#1620 [19:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Notch's first computer was a commodore. c:
#1621 [19:34] <GreyVulpine> Poor sucker.
#1622 [19:34] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> She plays MC too lol
#1623 [19:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Not that poor, grey.
#1624 [19:34] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> But on 360,...
#1625 [19:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Poor sucker.
#1626 [19:35] <CrusaderDeleters> the 360 version sucks. Limited map size.
#1627 [19:35] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I'd play on my 360 with her, but it is like going back 1 year ago.
#1628 [19:35] <CrusaderDeleters> It'd be 2 years, for me.
#1629 [19:35] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> AMd yeah, too many limitations thanks to Microsofts Policy Enforcement Douches.
#1630 [19:35] <CrusaderDeleters> My summer resolution of '10 was to quit wow. I did. I later found out about minecraft.
#1631 [19:35] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Sorry for bad word
#1632 [19:35] <CrusaderDeleters> It's ight.
#1633 [19:36] <TheNytangel> Until I come into play
#1634 [19:36] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I quit WoW in BC time
#1635 [19:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I quit wow before cata.
#1636 [19:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Ugh, mists of panderia. ._.
#1637 [19:36] <TheNytangel> t1b3r1um_tr00per: you're at least 2012 years old then :o
#1638 [19:36] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> :D How'd you break the addiction?
#1639 [19:36] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1640 [19:36] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Lol
#1641 [19:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I hated all those damned assholes.
#1642 [19:37] <CrusaderDeleters> What, no kick, aubot? XD
#1643 [19:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, I left because of them.
#1644 [19:37] <TheNytangel> No, say the f-bomb
#1645 [19:37] <CrusaderDeleters> And I sucked anyways. I was a bad player.
#1646 [19:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Got hacked twice anyways.
#1647 [19:37] <CrusaderDeleters> They sold my heroism gear, too.
#1648 [19:37] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I aint used like IRC client since old Gamespy arcade lol, the chay bots used to kick for silly things. In regards to WOW, I quit because I moved back to England, and my rig was in Spain
#1649 [19:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Didn't get it back till I semi-raged at the GM's.
#1650 [19:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1651 [19:38] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> My m8 in rl got keyloggeed lost all his epics and stuff
#1652 [19:38] <TheNytangel> He shouldn't have downloaded porn with viruses then
#1653 [19:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Shoulda yelled in his ticket.
#1654 [19:38] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I think he was unlucky when dling interface mods.
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#1656 [19:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Shoulda checked the sizes.
#1657 [19:39] <Devin> ^
#1658 [19:39] <Devin> Nobody does that, and it's the most general thing to do
#1659 [19:39] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> To be fair, he usually checks them for viruses and stuff, but as he trusted the source BAM...
#1660 [19:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Ouch.
#1661 [19:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Trust.
#1662 [19:40] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Indeed.
#1663 [19:40] <CrusaderDeleters> I rely very little on trust.
#1664 [19:40] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Yeah.
#1665 [19:40] <CrusaderDeleters> On a pvp server, I took everything from my place and hid it, while a team merged with mine.
#1666 [19:40] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> I learned all about trust on GSA years ago,
#1667 [19:40] <CrusaderDeleters> GSA?
#1668 [19:41] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> GameSpy Arcade
#1669 [19:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#1670 [19:41] <CrusaderDeleters> You gotta learn not to trust me when it comes to pvp. c:
#1671 [19:41] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> It was IRC based with chat lobbies and game lobbies before IGN let it run in to the ground.
#1672 [19:41] <Devin> d'awh
#1673 [19:41] <CrusaderDeleters> lol.
#1674 [19:41] <Devin> Gamespy was my very early days of gaming.
#1675 [19:41] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> PVP, I retired and went on a PVE server once.
#1676 [19:42] <CrusaderDeleters> I might retire on PVP.
#1677 [19:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Getting quite bored seeing vast oceans with nobody inhabiting it.
#1678 [19:42] <superkabii> ...I remember gamespy for AoE2
#1679 [19:42] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> If you've been there and done it, might be an idea. But I missed PVP
#1680 [19:42] <CrusaderDeleters> I hate the oceans.
#1681 [19:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Worst place to be after your fist time.
#1682 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> No mobs, no friendly mobs, little chance of trees, out in the middle of nowhere, no caves to start from above ground.
#1683 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, you will get sick without enemy mobs. XD
#1684 [19:43] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Just realised Ubuntu downloaded ages ago, Wug
#1685 [19:43] <Wug> heh
#1686 [19:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Got lost in a sea of chat? c:
#1687 [19:44] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> 23:46 eyes are so tired.
#1688 [19:44] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Yeah
#1689 [19:44] <CrusaderDeleters> 19:44, eyes are not tired.
#1690 [19:44] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> WHere are you in the world?
#1691 [19:44] <CrusaderDeleters> East cost, USA.
#1692 [19:44] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Ahh
#1693 [19:44] <CrusaderDeleters> I know your ip, tiber. c:
#1694 [19:45] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> It's cool *wink*
#1695 [19:45] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Don't you just hate it when a fly comes in to your lounge and sits on your tv
#1696 [19:45] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Don't you just hate it when a fly comes in to your lounge and sits on your tv
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#1698 [19:59] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Any how folks, thanks for your input.
#1699 [19:59] <t1b3r1um_tr00per> Going to experiment and see if I can get any further, It is strange so many people seem to have the same problem as I.
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#1702 [20:06] <ub> how does amidst know where the biomes are going to be?
#1703 [20:06] <ub> it doesn't discover those chunks does it?
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#1710 [20:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope.
#1711 [20:12] <CrusaderDeleters> It actually creates chunks as you go along
#1712 [20:12] <shane1395> can u only join a multiplayer game if u no what the name is
#1713 [20:13] <CrusaderDeleters> and following the same seed, it will create the biomes to the exact.
#1714 [20:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait, what?
#1715 [20:13] <Wug> shane1395: you need the ip address
#1716 [20:13] <shane1395> ??
#1717 [20:13] <Wug> some servers may have other restrictions
#1718 [20:13] <shane1395> i went on minecraft clicked multiplayer and it showed no games
#1719 [20:13] <ub> huh. thats interesting.
#1720 [20:14] <Wug> shane1395: you have to know the ip address of the server you want to join
#1721 [20:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you kidding?! Wug, why does Minecraft Classic keep pausing so much?
#1722 [20:14] <shane1395> so i cant join a random game?
#1723 [20:14] <Wug> if you visit minestatus.net you can see lists of servers
#1724 [20:14] <Wug> there is no centralized list, no.
#1725 [20:15] <shane1395> thx
#1726 [20:15] <superkabii> that would be insanity if you saw all the servers on a list
#1727 [20:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug, why does Minecraft Classic keep pausing so much?
#1728 [20:16] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: no idea
#1729 [20:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Pissing me off.
#1730 [20:16] <shane1395> so how do i get the ip im on minestatus.net
#1731 [20:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Notch should learn how to program with mouse and keyboard listeners better.
#1732 [20:17] <Marc_IRL> Someone uses Minecraft Classic? WHY?
#1733 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Free
#1734 [20:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Becuase It's still fun.
#1735 [20:17] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid CrusaderDeleters
#1736 [20:17] * HeshieokFasla [HeshieokFasla@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1737 [20:17] <TheNytangel> !paid TheNytangel
#1738 [20:18] <HeshieokFasla> Hello
#1739 [20:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Sucks, I cannot change the menu button wit Minecraft. :c
#1740 [20:18] <Marc_IRL> I have never enjoyed Minecraft classic, and I started playing in 2010
#1741 [20:18] <HeshieokFasla> I require some assistance.
#1742 [20:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Just ask. XD
#1743 [20:18] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: I require some MONEY
#1744 [20:18] <HeshieokFasla> My minecraft has crashed for no reason.
#1745 [20:18] <CrusaderDeleters> TheNyt, just go home.
#1746 [20:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Does it keep crashing, hesh?
#1747 [20:19] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: I am home, what are you talking about?
#1748 [20:19] <HeshieokFasla> I was here maybe a week ago with this same issue. Uninstalling dupe java versions fixed it, but here we are again.
#1749 [20:19] <CrusaderDeleters> TheNyt, just go lake.
#1750 [20:19] <TheNytangel> HeshieokFasla: it obviously has a reason..
#1751 [20:19] <HeshieokFasla> Starting minecraft via magiclauncher or the vanilla launcher causing it to crash
#1752 [20:19] <HeshieokFasla> Instantly.
#1753 [20:19] <TheNytangel> Magiclauncher?
#1754 [20:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Hold on, hesh.
#1755 [20:19] <HeshieokFasla> I have no mods installed. What do you suggest I do?
#1756 [20:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Hold on.
#1757 [20:20] <CrusaderDeleters> That's what. XD
#1758 [20:20] <HeshieokFasla> Here is the error I recieve, in case you need it: http://pastebin.com/Z5n7dXC2
#1759 [20:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Egad, I have two theories:
#1760 [20:21] <CrusaderDeleters> One: Missing Gcard.
#1761 [20:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Two: Your os is bad. Not made for gamers.
#1762 [20:21] <GreyVulpine> or 3, outdated LWJGL
#1763 [20:22] <TheNytangel> GreyVulpine: wrong syntax
#1764 [20:22] <TheNytangel> Three: Outdated LWJGL
#1765 [20:22] <CrusaderDeleters> windows key + r, DXDiag, save all information onto your desktop, Open of the Informational text, go to http://pastebin.com, and paste it in there, Save that paste, and then give us the link.
#1766 [20:22] <HeshieokFasla> I dont know why the OpenGL is 'null'
#1767 [20:22] <CrusaderDeleters> I think you are missing a graphics chip.
#1768 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> But anyways, follow that set of instructions up there, plox.
#1769 [20:23] <TheNytangel> ?? win/dxdiag
#1770 [20:23] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1771 [20:23] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1772 [20:23] <HeshieokFasla> is it the 'save all information' button?
#1773 [20:23] <TheNytangel> Or that set of instructions
#1774 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#1775 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah
#1776 [20:23] * kingsquid23 [kingsquid23@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1777 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Thenyt, my version is less lengthy. XD
#1778 [20:24] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: VoxelHead's version is more detailed
#1779 [20:24] <CrusaderDeleters> So? :c Takes up fourl ines.
#1780 [20:24] <TheNytangel> So?
#1781 [20:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Too long. c:
#1782 [20:24] <TheNytangel> Not really
#1783 [20:24] <HeshieokFasla> and here you go:
#1784 [20:24] <HeshieokFasla> http://pastebin.com/izsZcUDW
#1785 [20:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyways.
#1786 [20:24] <TheNytangel> He didn't get +q, he's fine
#1787 [20:25] <CrusaderDeleters> +q?
#1788 [20:26] <TheNytangel> Quieted..
#1789 [20:26] <TheNytangel> Like if you spam
#1790 [20:26] * Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1791 [20:26] <Gurkenglas> I tried to built an upwards tnt cannon like in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fRxbFzxAqU
#1792 [20:27] <TheNytangel> And?
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#1794 [20:27] <Gurkenglas> Mine only shoots the projectile up like 5 blocks. I tried tnt in all 4 slots, or any combination of 3 slots
#1795 [20:27] <CrusaderDeleters> oh
#1796 [20:27] <CrusaderDeleters> aaaaaaaa
#1797 [20:27] <Gurkenglas> It shooting as high as in the video would be handy :D
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#1799 [20:28] <CrusaderDeleters> I see, now.
#1800 [20:28] <HeshieokFasla> So
#1801 [20:28] <HeshieokFasla> Any ideas?
#1802 [20:28] <TheNytangel> Gurkenglas: that was in 1.3_01, TNT might have gotten nerfed
#1803 [20:29] <Gurkenglas> Well damn. No upwards cannons then? :/
#1804 [20:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Hesh, trying to look for the stats of it.
#1805 [20:29] <Gurkenglas> Oh, idea
#1806 [20:29] <TheNytangel> Make it taller?
#1807 [20:29] <CrusaderDeleters> tnt DOES go upward. You must be a pro. ;)
#1808 [20:29] <CrusaderDeleters> < is not pro.
#1809 [20:29] <TheNytangel> We already knew that
#1810 [20:29] <HeshieokFasla> Ah. Thank you. Let me know when you figure anything out
#1811 [20:30] <HeshieokFasla> I'm going try updating LWJGL in the meantime to see if that works
#1812 [20:30] <Gurkenglas> Nope, ice blocks instead of stone blocks for the upwards barrel did not work
#1813 [20:30] <Gurkenglas> Back to brainstorming, everyone
#1814 [20:31] <TheNytangel> Never
#1815 [20:31] <TheNytangel> I'm going back to homework
#1816 [20:31] <Gurkenglas> Removing the barrel did not increase the height
#1817 [20:32] <CrusaderDeleters> So hesh, when does it crash?
#1818 [20:32] <HeshieokFasla> Updated LWJGL to 2.8.4 does not change anything
#1819 [20:32] <HeshieokFasla> Instantly upon activation.
#1820 [20:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Gurk, make the tnt lower.
#1821 [20:32] <HeshieokFasla> The minecraft window appears and crashes immediately.
#1822 [20:32] <Gurkenglas> wat?
#1823 [20:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Make the tnt blocks down one block
#1824 [20:32] <Gurkenglas> You mean the projectile or the propellant?
#1825 [20:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Propellant.
#1826 [20:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Is the Driver updated, Hesh?
#1827 [20:33] <HeshieokFasla> Which driver?
#1828 [20:34] <Gurkenglas> Did not really help...
#1829 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> For your Gcard.
#1830 [20:34] <HeshieokFasla> It should be.
#1831 [20:34] <Gurkenglas> Maybe we should use a creative server for this
#1832 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> "Should" isn't alwasy a good answer. c: Try to update it, hesh.
#1833 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Creative server? XD
#1834 [20:34] <HeshieokFasla> well, i have to go eat dinner. i will return later, update my driver and then let you know what happens.
#1835 [20:34] <Gurkenglas> Yes, why not? o.o
#1836 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Possibly make a minecraft mod and mod the server to support tnt
#1837 [20:34] <Wug> HeshieokFasla: before even logging in?
#1838 [20:35] <Gurkenglas> wat?
#1839 [20:35] <Gurkenglas> servers dont support tnt?
#1840 [20:35] <HeshieokFasla> i log in and crash when minecraft proper appears. anyway afk
#1841 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> You must make an MC mod, and a Creative server mod.
#1842 [20:35] <Gurkenglas> Why?
#1843 [20:35] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: uuh
#1844 [20:35] <Wug> what
#1845 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Too bad Classic doesn't have it's source given.
#1846 [20:35] <Wug> OH you mean classic
#1847 [20:35] <Gurkenglas> What you smokin bro
#1848 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Gurk wanted to make the tnt cannon in Classic mode. XD
#1849 [20:36] <Gurkenglas> No? o.o
#1850 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> [20:34] Gurkenglas Maybe we should use a creative server for this
#1851 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> c:
#1852 [20:36] <Wug> creative
#1853 [20:36] <Wug> not classic
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#1855 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I alwasy referred Creative as classic. :c
#1856 [20:36] <Gurkenglas> Creative means Not Survival
#1857 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, Premium usedto be all survival.
#1858 [20:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Now it's creative/survival.
#1859 [20:37] <CrusaderDeleters> I've had MC Premium since third week of august in 2010, I've gotten used to calling premium survival. XD
#1860 [20:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyways, I would host the server, but I only could whence my next check comes in.
#1861 [20:38] <Gurkenglas> wat? I could host a temporary server right now
#1862 [20:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh. XD
#1863 [20:39] <Gurkenglas> hosting server=joining server+forward ports
#1864 [20:39] <Gurkenglas> measured in difficulty
#1865 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> I know.
#1866 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> I forwarded many ports before. c:
#1867 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> I even hosted a terraria server. :D
#1868 [20:40] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: I have forwarded many ports too
#1869 [20:40] <Gurkenglas> Forward ALL the things
#1870 [20:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Do ALL the things!
#1871 [20:41] <Gurkenglas> Could not connect to minecraft.net
#1872 [20:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Silly, you forgot to connect to the internet. c:
#1873 [20:41] <CrusaderDeleters> [/sarcasm]
#1874 [20:41] <Gurkenglas> 178.0.213.130:25565
#1875 [20:42] <CrusaderDeleters> I could go for soem tnt cannon testing
#1876 [20:42] <CrusaderDeleters> first I must switch back to 1.2...
#1877 [20:42] <Gurkenglas> Why?
#1878 [20:42] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.3
#1879 [20:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I like testing.
#1880 [20:43] <Gurkenglas> I mean, why go back
#1881 [20:43] <TheNytangel> He is in a pre-release
#1882 [20:43] <Gurkenglas> Oh rite, dose snapshots
#1883 [20:43] <TheNytangel> Future update of minecraft
#1884 [20:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I cannot connect to your server with 1.3 snapshot.
#1885 [20:43] <Gurkenglas> Huh, 1.2.5 here
#1886 [20:43] <Wug> Marc_IRL: you thar :3
#1887 [20:43] <TheNytangel> Wug: are you?
#1888 [20:43] <Gurkenglas> Client, not server, I hope
#1889 [20:43] <Wug> TheNytangel: no
#1890 [20:43] <Gurkenglas> Oh, server 1.2.5 too
#1891 [20:43] <TheNytangel> :o
#1892 [20:43] * Wug hides under the desk
#1892 [20:43] <Gurkenglas> If you go back anyway, go to 1.2.5
#1893 [20:43] <TheNytangel> I see you
#1894 [20:44] <Wug> Gurkenglas: update to the snapshot server
#1895 [20:44] <Gurkenglas> where
#1896 [20:44] <TheNytangel> Under Wug's desk
#1897 [20:44] <Wug> I helped write it :D
#1898 [20:44] <Gurkenglas> Wheres it at?
#1899 [20:44] <CrusaderDeleters> :o
#1900 [20:44] <CrusaderDeleters> you did?
#1901 [20:44] <TheNytangel> Gurkenglas: the internet
#1902 [20:44] <Gurkenglas> I built the first frameship!
#1903 [20:44] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: yup
#1904 [20:44] <Wug> Gurkenglas: http://www.mojang.com/2012/06/minecraft-snapshot-week-23/
#1905 [20:44] * CrusaderDeleters hails Wug.
#1905 [20:44] * Wug is hailed upon
#1905 [20:44] <Wug> D:
#1906 [20:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1907 [20:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Hit with hail.
#1908 [20:45] * Wug clubbed repeatedly with grapefruit sized hailstones
#1908 [20:45] * Wug dead.
#1908 [20:45] <TheNytangel> RIP
#1909 [20:45] * CrusaderDeleters resurrects Wug with the power of Christ.
#1909 [20:45] * Wug clubbed with hailstones. dead.
#1909 [20:45] <TheNytangel> I will never find those two 2x2 pin power thingies again
#1910 [20:45] * Wug clubbed with hailstones while dead. still dead.
#1910 [20:45] * CrusaderDeleters calls upon the Ra to clear the skies.
#1910 [20:46] * CrusaderDeleters resurrects Wug wit hthe power of Christ.
#1910 [20:46] <Gurkenglas> snapshotserver runnin
#1911 [20:46] <Gurkenglas> same ip
#1912 [20:46] * Wug beamed on by sunlight from sun god. gets cancer. dead.
#1912 [20:46] * CrusaderDeleters makes Chuck Norris cry.
#1912 [20:46] * CrusaderDeleters resurrects blah blah blah.
#1912 [20:47] * Wug terrified of person who made chuck norris cry. heart attack. dead.
#1912 [20:47] <Gurkenglas> CrusaderDeleters, waiting for your join
#1913 [20:47] <TheNytangel> Wug: just pretend you are Doctor Who and regenerate
#1914 [20:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Gurk, I cannot. :x
#1915 [20:47] <CrusaderDeleters> :c
#1916 [20:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you typing "local host"?
#1917 [20:48] * geraldbrent wugs Wug back to life
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#1918 [20:48] * Wug 's spirit presses the large red button labeled "WUG"
#1918 [20:48] * CrusaderDeleters pressed the WUG button.
#1918 [20:48] * Wug explodes back to life in a wugulous explosion
#1918 [20:48] * TheNytangel presses the WUG button
#1918 [20:48] * Wug explodes back to life in a wugulous explosion
#1918 [20:48] * Wug explodes back to life in a wugulous explosion
#1918 [20:48] * CrusaderDeleters pressed the WUG button.
#1918 [20:48] * TheNytangel presses the WUG button
#1918 [20:48] * Wug explodes back to life in a wugulous explosion
#1918 [20:48] * Wug explodes back to life in a wugulous explosion
#1918 [20:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Wugulous. XD
#1919 [20:48] * Wug is triple alive
#1919 [20:48] <Wug> x5 now
#1920 [20:48] <TheNytangel> Lol
#1921 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Quentuplet.
#1922 [20:49] <Wug> Wuggoplex
#1923 [20:49] * geraldbrent bows down
#1923 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1924 [20:49] * CrusaderDeleters hails Wug.
#1924 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Again.
#1925 [20:49] * TheNytangel presses the WUG button
#1925 [20:49] * Wug is so alive, he grew psychic powers.
#1925 [20:50] * CrusaderDeleters throws hail at Wuh.
#1925 [20:50] <TheNytangel> Wug: what am I thinking?
#1926 [20:50] <Marc_IRL> Heard my name
#1927 [20:50] <Marc_IRL> Someone needed me?
#1928 [20:50] <TheNytangel> Wug did
#1929 [20:50] * Wug levitates hail with mind and uses it to provide water for poor children in third world countries.
#1929 [20:50] <TheNytangel> Marc_IRL: push the WUG button
#1930 [20:50] <Wug> Marc_IRL: when is 1.3 coming out :3
#1931 [20:50] * CrusaderDeleters throws so much hail at Wug, that he was going to die, but then keeps wug alive.
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#1932 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I heard Minecraft 1.3 is supposed to come out today at 8:00 EST.
#1933 [20:50] <Marc_IRL> Okay, let's have a talk about releases :p
#1934 [20:51] <Gurkenglas> CrusaderDeleters, yup
#1935 [20:51] <sYsRq6> hi can someone tell me how to allocate more ram for minecraft?
#1936 [20:51] * Wug pulls up a chair
#1936 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Never? D:
#1937 [20:51] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: that's 50 minutes ago..
#1938 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> I know, Nyt. c:
#1939 [20:51] <Marc_IRL> If it's not public, like from a developers' twitter, I probably either don't know, or it's a secret
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#1941 [20:51] <Marc_IRL> So although I get asked all of the time, I'm not a great person to ask :p
#1942 [20:51] <TheNytangel> Those developers..
#1943 [20:51] <Wug> you should tell us secret things
#1944 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Ohdatjebs.
#1945 [20:51] <Wug> we like secrets
#1946 [20:51] <Gurkenglas> huh. checking the error
#1947 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Marc, why does jebs and them push the modding api? D:
#1948 [20:51] <TheNytangel> Yeah.. like "Where are your birthmarks"
#1949 [20:52] <Marc_IRL> CrusaderDeleters: Why do they push the modding API?
#1950 [20:52] <CrusaderDeleters> :c *nod*
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#1952 [20:53] <Gurkenglas> Should work now
#1953 [20:53] <Gurkenglas> CrusaderDeleters, join
#1954 [20:53] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: because the modders push the modding api
#1955 [20:53] <CrusaderDeleters> :I
#1956 [20:53] <superkabii> Wug, WugBot died a while back from a netsplit, is he going to be resurrected anytime soon?
#1957 [20:53] <prrye> Is Tripwires integrated with the Minecraft Retail version ? :S
#1958 [20:53] <Wug> superkabii: sometime
#1959 [20:53] <Gurkenglas> outdated client
#1960 [20:53] <Wug> I'm doing surgery on ity
#1961 [20:53] <Gurkenglas> u sure you have newest snapshot?
#1962 [20:53] <prrye> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tripwire_Hook
#1963 [20:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Must I really move half a snapshot forward? :I
#1964 [20:53] <Marc_IRL> I don't understand the question
#1965 [20:53] <Marc_IRL> Why do they push it?
#1966 [20:53] <Gurkenglas> I just used the link I was given
#1967 [20:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Why do they keep moving it from 1.7 to 1.8, etc.
#1968 [20:54] <CrusaderDeleters> It was planned for 1.3, now it is 1.4.
#1969 [20:54] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: oh. well I'll tell you why I hope its being delayed
#1970 [20:54] * TheNytangel pushes the WUGBOT button
#1970 [20:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1971 [20:54] <Wug> * universe implod
#1972 [20:54] <prrye> Is Tripwires integrated with the Minecraft Retail version yet ? :S
#1973 [20:54] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: hopefully, its because its a big thing
#1974 [20:54] <Marc_IRL> It'll get done when it gets done
#1975 [20:54] <Marc_IRL> It's probably the biggest undertaking in Minecraft so far
#1976 [20:55] <Wug> not only is it big, but considering its implications and the effect it could have on modding, you could call it The Biggest Thing
#1977 [20:55] <Gurkenglas> CrusaderDeleters, u updatin?
#1978 [20:55] <CrusaderDeleters> It gets even more time to take as they keep updating.
#1979 [20:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, I am
#1980 [20:55] <Wug> so hopefully, its taking so long because tons and tons of work is being put into making sure its going to get done right.
#1981 [20:55] <Wug> because if its a flop, there would be some sort of tidal backlash.
#1982 [20:55] <TheNytangel> Wug: no you can't
#1983 [20:56] <TheNytangel> The universe imploded
#1984 [20:56] <CrusaderDeleters> They should add one that has basic blocks and ores, and filled with modding api stuff.
#1985 [20:56] * Wug unimplod universe
#1985 [20:56] <CrusaderDeleters> And then have one for actaul minecraft.
#1986 [20:56] * CrusaderDeleters implods universe.
#1986 [20:56] * TheNytangel jams the WUGBOT button
#1986 [20:57] <Wug> * The WUGBOT button jams TheNytangel
#1987 [20:57] * CrusaderDeleters Jams the EVERYONE button
#1987 [20:57] <TheNytangel> *glitches*
#1988 [20:57] <Wug> :O
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#1990 [20:57] <Wug> if I dont /nick to "the" in 3 days, it will get dropped
#1991 [20:57] <TheNytangel> Wug: I need the peanut butter too! Quick! Before this soaks into the bread!
#1992 [20:58] * Wug nick-refresh complere
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#1993 [20:59] <TheNytangel> Nooooo
#1994 [20:59] <TheNytangel> Marc!
#1995 [20:59] <TheNytangel> CrusaderDeleters: you had to push the EVERYONE button, didn't you -_-
#1996 [21:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep.
#1997 [21:00] <Wug> -NickServ- WugBot is on vacation and has an extended expiry time
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#1999 [21:00] <TheNytangel> Wug: you should just pay the bill
#2000 [21:00] <Wug> TheNytangel: what bill
#2001 [21:01] <Wug> I host wugbot from my shizbawks
#2002 [21:01] <TheNytangel> The bill that you got for imploding the universe
#2003 [21:01] <Wug> oh
#2004 [21:01] <Wug> that one was for $-35,455,648,726,148,696,127,326,384.75
#2005 [21:01] <TheNytangel> Without the negative sign, yes
#2006 [21:02] <Wug> I tipped the delivery guy 5%
#2007 [21:02] <TheNytangel> I've been working on my homework for 2 hours.. I've barely gotten anywhere
#2008 [21:02] <Wug> it was a long haul carrying all that gold back from beyond the edge of the universe
#2009 [21:02] <TheNytangel> Wug: Lol, he payed you then
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#2012 [21:03] <ej> my minecraft keeps on lagging why???
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#2014 [21:05] <prrye> Does some 1 here know anything about Tripwires in minecraft ? :S
#2015 [21:06] <ej> anyone knows how to make minecraft stop lagging
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#2017 [21:06] <prrye> update java?
#2018 [21:06] <ej> i did just kept on lagging
#2019 [21:06] <prrye> put in power plug to ur laptop ?
#2020 [21:06] <prrye> Check for strange ram activity
#2021 [21:07] <prrye> ctrl + alt + delete , and check ur ram use
#2022 [21:07] <prrye> me be some interrupting
#2023 [21:07] <prrye> might Ø*
#2024 [21:07] <ej> okay well for now i know my ram memory is 4.00 gigs
#2025 [21:08] <prrye> u got 4k all-in all? or u got 4k working atm? cause, minecraft should not use 4k of memory when playing
#2026 [21:09] <prrye> u might have some programs conflicting with ur memory which makes ur pc work slower
#2027 [21:09] <prrye> i think =/
#2028 [21:09] <ej> well what should i do then D:
#2029 [21:09] <ej> and are you talking about CPU usage?
#2030 [21:10] <prrye> msconfig --> Close down all programs u dont need when booting ur pc and remove applikations that u dont need open by auto start
#2031 [21:10] <ej> how would i remove applications
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#2033 [21:11] <prrye> dunno if that was the right word ^^ my english aint that great, but use MSCONFIG to remove stuff u dont want to open automaticly, it will make ur pc run faster
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#2035 [21:11] <prrye> might give some more memory to work with
#2036 [21:12] <ej> where could i find that MSCONFIG?
#2037 [21:12] <ej> sorry this whole lagging thing corrupted my head
#2038 [21:12] <prrye> go to start menu , press RUN , type in MSCONFIG
#2039 [21:13] <prrye> Is there any 1 online that know something about minecraft Tripwires ? :S
#2040 [21:13] <ej> okay got it now what?
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#2042 [21:14] <ej> prrye i got the MSCONFIG up now what do i do
#2043 [21:15] <prrye> sec
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#2045 [21:16] <prrye> There should be 5 menu to choose from
#2046 [21:16] <prrye> generel , boot , applications , start , functions?
#2047 [21:16] <prrye> right ?
#2048 [21:16] <ej> okay what do i choose there is general boot services
#2049 [21:16] <TheNoodle> This won't end well >_>
#2050 [21:16] <ej> yes
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#2052 [21:16] <ej> yes
#2053 [21:16] <ej> yes
#2054 [21:16] <prrye> go into applications
#2055 [21:17] <prrye> remove the marked programs u dont need for running the basics in ur pc
#2056 [21:17] <prrye> its a small icon beside the titels, cannot remember what its called
#2057 [21:17] <prrye> dont close any microsoft app tho
#2058 [21:18] <prrye> just remove those ur sure ur not using
#2059 [21:18] <ej> i dont have that i have general boot services tools and startup
#2060 [21:18] <prrye> services yes
#2061 [21:18] <prrye> couldnt remember name
#2062 [21:18] <ej> okay
#2063 [21:18] <ej> then what?
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#2065 [21:18] <prrye> click off those programs ur not using and isnt important
#2066 [21:19] <ej> and you said dont take off microsoft correct?
#2067 [21:19] <prrye> keep programs like microsoft and such, but remove anything u dont think is important
#2068 [21:19] <prrye> yes
#2069 [21:19] <prrye> No harm done if u click something wrong, u can always turn in on again
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#2071 [21:20] <prrye> but this should stop some programs from using memomery which is not needed
#2072 [21:21] <ej> wow okay i did that and most of it was microsoft wouldnt that still affect the lagginess
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#2074 [21:21] <ej> ..
#2075 [21:21] <zyxon> got dc
#2076 [21:21] <zyxon> :S
#2077 [21:21] <zyxon> ur done ?
#2078 [21:21] <zyxon> prrye here still
#2079 [21:21] <zyxon> dunno why in changed my name
#2080 [21:21] <ej> oh thats you?
#2081 [21:21] <zyxon> ye
#2082 [21:21] <zyxon> i got DC
#2083 [21:21] <ej> okay yes im done and lol
#2084 [21:21] <ej> whats DC?
#2085 [21:21] <zyxon> disconnect
#2086 [21:22] <ej> oh okay nvm i knew thT
#2087 [21:22] <zyxon> :P
#2088 [21:22] <ej> but yeah im done
#2089 [21:22] <zyxon> u can do it with ur startup or boot to
#2090 [21:22] <zyxon> on startup u remove those programs that otherwise would start when u open pc
#2091 [21:22] <zyxon> thats a good thing to get some more speed to ur pc
#2092 [21:22] <ej> oh okay hold on gosh i love you if this works no homo :)
#2093 [21:23] <zyxon> :P lol
#2094 [21:23] <zyxon> cant promise anything, but it will make ur pc run faster tho
#2095 [21:23] <zyxon> just remember not to remove any important programs
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#2097 [21:24] <ej> okay i did that now what
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#2099 [21:24] <zyxon> reboot pc to make it work
#2100 [21:24] <zyxon> hopefully u didnt remove anything imporrant
#2101 [21:25] <zyxon> important xD
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#2103 [21:25] <ej> lol i hope so also thanks dude!
#2104 [21:25] <Blood_Mind> hey, i can't connect to the minecraft game, it was working before, then stopped when i refreshed the page when it was lagging
#2105 [21:25] <ej> i press ok when im done with all that right prrye
#2106 [21:25] <zyxon> ye if ur sure u didnt remove anything imporant ^^
#2107 [21:26] <zyxon> important *
#2108 [21:26] <zyxon> then reboot
#2109 [21:26] <ej> alright thanks
#2110 [21:26] <Blood_Mind> whos next in line for answers?
#2111 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> I am.
#2112 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Actually
#2113 [21:26] <CrusaderDeleters> You were. c:
#2114 [21:27] <Blood_Mind> whaaaaa.....
#2115 [21:27] <zyxon> Tripwires !!! does any 1 know something about thoose?
#2116 [21:27] <Blood_Mind> k so, i cant connect to the mine craft game
#2117 [21:27] <Blood_Mind> u trip over them?
#2118 [21:28] <zyxon> i see them in videos and on minecraft wiki
#2119 [21:28] <zyxon> but not in game
#2120 [21:28] <zyxon> i wanna know how to get them :(
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#2122 [21:30] <Blood_Mind> is anyone gonna answer anyone?
#2123 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Zyxon
#2124 [21:30] <CrusaderDeleters> It's in the 1.3 snapshot update.
#2125 [21:30] <Blood_Mind> k
#2126 [21:32] <Blood_Mind> is everyone in the sidebar online?
#2127 [21:32] <Blood_Mind> right now?
#2128 [21:32] <Blood_Mind> waiting for answers?
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#2130 [21:33] <Blood_Mind> this is so boring
#2131 [21:34] <Blood_Mind> is Zyxon the only one who can answer our Qs
#2132 [21:34] <geraldbrent> No.
#2133 [21:34] <geraldbrent> Most of us are idling.
#2134 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Not everybody connected is actually at their computers.
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#2136 [21:34] <Blood_Mind> oh
#2137 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Some of us actually have other stuff going on in the foreground, while we have this open
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#2147 [21:55] <dane> i bought minecraft, i click download but it just brings me to the Minecraft auncher. i enter username and password, then it doesnt work. the play offline is grayed out and it says not downloaded, but im trying to download it and its not working!!! tell me what to do!!!
#2148 [21:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Enter in the correct username and password.
#2149 [21:56] <dane> i did
#2150 [21:57] <Blood_Mind> ...
#2151 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> What did it say?
#2152 [21:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Dane, what did it say when you entered it in?
#2153 [21:59] <CrusaderDeleters> dane?
#2154 [21:59] <Blood_Mind> Crusader, are u one of the like helpers?
#2155 [21:59] <dane> it will say logging in, then it will say "cant connect to minecraft.net" the play offline is grayed out and it says not downloaded
#2156 [21:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah.
#2157 [21:59] <CrusaderDeleters> !connect
#2158 [22:00] <dane> it wont let me
#2159 [22:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Did you try this only once, dane?
#2160 [22:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, that was an Aubot command. XD
#2161 [22:00] <dane> ive tried mltiple times
#2162 [22:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Is this on a seperate machine?
#2163 [22:00] <dane> wat do u mean by that?
#2164 [22:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you playing minecraft on a different computer.*
#2165 [22:01] <dane> yah laptop
#2166 [22:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Is it connected to the internet?
#2167 [22:01] <dane> but i only have it on my laptop
#2168 [22:01] <dane> yah
#2169 [22:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you currently on the lappy?
#2170 [22:02] <dane> yuup
#2171 [22:02] <Blood_Mind> :)
#2172 [22:02] <CrusaderDeleters> on a different computer.
#2173 [22:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Woops
#2174 [22:02] <CrusaderDeleters> "on a different computer.*"
#2175 [22:02] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#2176 [22:02] <Devin> dane, the username and password is incorrect.
#2177 [22:03] <dane> nope
#2178 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> no, no.
#2179 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> It would tell him it is.
#2180 [22:03] <Devin> Nope.
#2181 [22:03] <Devin> It would just say unable to connect
#2182 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> I removed one character from my saved password.
#2183 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> it said: "login failed.
#2184 [22:03] <Devin> wat.
#2185 [22:03] <Devin> I've never had that, sorry then
#2186 [22:03] <dane> kay im going to start from the beggining in details
#2187 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> He cannot log on.
#2188 [22:04] <Devin> Can you log on minecraft.net?
#2189 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> It gives him "Cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#2190 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Dane, where did you get this launcher from?
#2191 [22:06] <dane> i went to minecraft.net, i logged onto that, i bought the game. then underneath he guy, pig and sheep it says " play minecraft' and under that it says " in browser/ Download" i clck
#2192 [22:06] <dane> oops
#2193 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you able to play in-browser?
#2194 [22:06] <dane> nope
#2195 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> What kinda error?
#2196 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> What kinda error?
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#2198 [22:06] <Devin> Go log onto minecraft.net, try it now
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#2200 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp
#2201 [22:07] <dane> im already logged in
#2202 [22:07] <Devin> Hmph :|
#2203 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Click on "In browser."
#2204 [22:07] <dane> kay one sec
#2205 [22:08] <dane> it doesnt load, it sits there for about 2 mins then it says error
#2206 [22:09] <CrusaderDeleters> What kinda error?
#2207 [22:09] <dane> its still loading when its done ill check
#2208 [22:09] <CrusaderDeleters> go to pastebin.com to post the error
#2209 [22:10] <Gurkenglas> What was the xz offset?
#2210 [22:10] <dane> ? no idea wat that is
#2211 [22:10] <Gurkenglas> Asking Cru unrelatedly.
#2212 [22:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Uhm, couldn't test. :c
#2213 [22:10] <Gurkenglas> hmk
#2214 [22:10] <CrusaderDeleters> I need a second person.
#2215 [22:10] <CrusaderDeleters> actually.
#2216 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> I could set up a stair of wire.
#2217 [22:11] <Gurkenglas> I tried to do it by placing a wood pressure plate flying up and throwing a piece of redstone down
#2218 [22:11] <dane> Java Plug-in 10.5.0.05
#2219 [22:12] <Gurkenglas> But now I need to go and I didnt have enough time to intervalshrink the offset
#2220 [22:12] <Gurkenglas> 4:12 AM in Germany :x
#2221 [22:12] <Gurkenglas> n8
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#2223 [22:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Zuruck.
#2224 [22:14] <dane> paste bin isnt working
#2225 [22:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Why not? :o
#2226 [22:15] <dane> kay im just 13 and im just trying to play minecraft :'(
#2227 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.pastebin.com
#2228 [22:15] <dane> if there is a contact number for minecraft i need it
#2229 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> clickie
#2230 [22:15] <CrusaderDeleters> There isn't any.
#2231 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> So far the only contact available is via email with a 3 month delay
#2232 [22:16] <Blood_Mind> im just 14 and tryng to play minecraft
#2233 [22:16] <Blood_Mind> ;)
#2234 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: What seems to be the problem?
#2235 [22:16] <dane> kay im on the link now wat?
#2236 [22:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk, can you help him?
#2237 [22:17] <CrusaderDeleters> He seems to be having problems connecting.
#2238 [22:17] <Blood_Mind> a black screen keeps coming up everytime i pull up minecraft
#2239 [22:17] <Blood_Mind> the server doesnt load
#2240 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> ??> Blood_Mind forceupdate
#2241 [22:17] <VoxelHead> Blood_Mind: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2242 [22:17] <VoxelHead> Blood_Mind: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2243 [22:18] <Blood_Mind> i didnt instal minecraft, ive been playing it free online for, a week or two
#2244 [22:18] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#2245 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: I'll see if I can find any info that's relevant to the situation
#2246 [22:18] <CrusaderDeleters> We don't help with pirates.
#2247 [22:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I've found nothing out. I exhausted all possibilities I know. :c
#2248 [22:19] <dane> need some help
#2249 [22:20] <dane> how do i download it after i purchase it? thats all i need to find out
#2250 [22:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Dane, We are figuring this out too.
#2251 [22:20] <dane> kay
#2252 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> dane: Okay, first, let's find out if you can access a certain web page
#2253 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> dane: Please go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13 and let us know what you see
#2254 [22:21] <dane> wat is it?
#2255 [22:21] <dane> kay
#2256 [22:21] <CrusaderDeleters> He has access to minecraft.
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#2258 [22:22] <dane> it said " Bad Login"
#2259 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> Good, that means that you are not blocked from login.minecraft.net which is a good thing
#2260 [22:22] <dane> okay.....
#2261 [22:23] <dane> it was just blank and thats wat it said
#2262 [22:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Dane, the minecraft.exe login's uses that link.
#2263 [22:23] <dane> okay...
#2264 [22:24] <CrusaderDeleters> We are still looking for the cause, please be patient. XD
#2265 [22:24] <dane> kay
#2266 [22:24] <dane> when i just go to minecraft.net it works
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#2268 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> dane: What security software are you using?
#2269 [22:24] <Blood_Mind> disk daemon? voxel head? you never did respond
#2270 [22:25] <dane> is McAfee one?
#2271 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: I don't know how to troubleshoot the free one you're using
#2272 [22:25] <Blood_Mind> awww
#2273 [22:26] <DiskDaemon> dane: which type? Paid, trial, or free?
#2274 [22:26] <Blood_Mind> do you know how to troubleshoot free version of minecraft voxel head?
#2275 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Malwarebytes, bro.
#2276 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Voxel is a bot, blood.
#2277 [22:26] <Blood_Mind> oh
#2278 [22:26] <CrusaderDeleters> and coulda told me you needed help back then. XD
#2279 [22:26] <dane> i think its a trial, just got my laptop couple days ago,
#2280 [22:27] <Devin> ??> index
#2281 [22:27] <Devin> wat
#2282 [22:27] <Devin> ??faq
#2283 [22:27] <Devin> ._.
#2284 [22:27] <Devin> i somehow got to all the commands yeterday
#2285 [22:27] <Devin> ??> help
#2286 [22:28] <Devin> ??> commands
#2287 [22:28] <Devin> whatever i give up
#2288 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> dane: temporarily disable AVG and try logging in again. What occurs?
#2289 [22:28] <dane> wats AVG lol?
#2290 [22:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Mcafee, avg? Egad, what these companies throw on laptops these days. :I
#2291 [22:28] <Devin> McAfree != avg :3
#2292 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> pardon, mcafee
#2293 [22:29] <CrusaderDeleters> McAfree = bad.
#2294 [22:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Malwarebytes, all the way.
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#2296 [22:29] <dane> ill be right back, i gott restart my comp in order to access mcafee
#2297 [22:30] <Blood_Mind> can ANYONE help me troubleshoot free version of Minecraft?
#2298 [22:30] * CrusaderDeleters completely dislikes anything not Malwarebytes and Microsoft Security Essentials.
#2298 [22:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Blood, you mean classic?
#2299 [22:30] <Blood_Mind> yes
#2300 [22:31] <CrusaderDeleters> what is the problem?
#2301 [22:31] <basketball22> whenever i play the in browser version of minecraft, minecraft does not load and only come up with the backround of website.
#2302 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> dane: before you go, when it says that you can't connect, do you get some form of text in the upper window?
#2303 [22:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Basket, do you have java?
#2304 [22:31] <basketball22> yes
#2305 [22:31] <Blood_Mind> when i try to load a server on Minecraft, Java loads, then goes to a black screen
#2306 [22:31] <basketball22> im not sure about the new version of jave though
#2307 [22:32] <CrusaderDeleters> DiskDaemon: can you do the dxdiag with blood?
#2308 [22:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Basket, Windows key + r, java -v
#2309 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> ??> Blood_Mind win/dxdiag
#2310 [22:32] <VoxelHead> Blood_Mind: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2311 [22:32] <VoxelHead> Blood_Mind: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2312 [22:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Danke.
#2313 [22:33] <basketball22> ? what do you mean by windows key
#2314 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> dane: Are you there still?
#2315 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: It's the keyboard key inbetween ctrl and alt
#2316 [22:33] <CrusaderDeleters> [22:33] DiskDaemon dane: Are you there still? Guess not.
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#2318 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: Have we check if it's an IPv6 issue with dane yet?
#2319 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> If not, I'll check on his return.
#2320 [22:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh, nope.
#2321 [22:35] <basketball22> i press the button i don't undertsand what you do after that :p
#2322 [22:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Try to make him make windows cehck for errors, first. It's the easiest and laziest solution to some things we cannot fix.
#2323 [22:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Basket, you must press that key and r at the same time
#2324 [22:36] <Blood_Mind> http://pastebin.com/7thV5Gdx
#2325 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: He has a new computer system. It's a well known issue that Java 7 defaults to using IPv6 instead of IPv4 for communicating on the net. That explains everything about why dane cannot connect with the launcher to minecraft.net, and if that is the case, a well known solution can occur.
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#2327 [22:36] <CrusaderDeleters> See why I hate Java 7? ._.
#2328 [22:36] <dane> back!
#2329 [22:37] <basketball22> nothing is hapening it just comes up as a regular screen for it
#2330 [22:37] <Blood_Mind> i pasted it
#2331 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> dane: When you can't connect to minecraft.net with the launcher, does anything show in the upper part of the screen?
#2332 [22:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Basket, in the start menu, can you search up "run"?
#2333 [22:38] <Blood_Mind> http://pastebin.com/7thV5Gdx
#2334 [22:38] <basketball22> yea
#2335 [22:38] <dane> ill check one sec
#2336 [22:38] <basketball22> i did
#2337 [22:38] <CrusaderDeleters> In that, basket, type "java -r"
#2338 [22:38] <CrusaderDeleters> "java -v"*
#2339 [22:39] <dane> OMG ITS WORKING NOW! guess i just had to restart computer1!!
#2340 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> c:
#2341 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Have fun, bro.
#2342 [22:39] <basketball22> ok
#2343 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> You will love it.
#2344 [22:39] <basketball22> i did]
#2345 [22:39] <Blood_Mind> ok, what am i supposed to do?
#2346 [22:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Basket, did anything pop up?
#2347 [22:39] <dane> thank you for your time guys!! i definatl apreciate it!!!
#2348 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> dane: glad to know that things are going for you now
#2349 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> o problem, dane.
#2350 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> One moment blood
#2351 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk, can you take basket, I'll code an error test bat for blood.
#2352 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Hey blood, can you play Single Player Classic?
#2353 [22:40] <dane> Crusader an Disk, thanks for the help!! cee ya!!
#2354 [22:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Cya.
#2355 [22:40] <Blood_Mind> no
#2356 [22:40] <basketball22> yes it does, but goes away really fast
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#2358 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> We can get error output the easy way, by using http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/.minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar
#2359 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> :c
#2360 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk had to ruin the fun.
#2361 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> :p
#2362 [22:41] <Blood_Mind> ok
#2363 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Blood, run the MCH-Launcher.jar.
#2364 [22:41] <basketball22> crusader it poped up but went away really fast
#2365 [22:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Again, post any records in pastebin, plox.
#2366 [22:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Hrm
#2367 [22:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk, got anything for that?
#2368 [22:42] <CrusaderDeleters> any jar's, bats?
#2369 [22:42] <Blood_Mind> what do i do now
#2370 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> hang on, I'll catch up with the scroll back
#2371 [22:43] <basketball22> is there any other way?
#2372 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Basket, what was the problem?
#2373 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Blood, did you run the jar?
#2374 [22:44] <Blood_Mind> yes
#2375 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> With MCH you can go to %appdata%\.minecraft and open minecraft.log
#2376 [22:44] <basketball22> when ever i do the browser version of minecraft it comes up with the backround of the website
#2377 [22:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh yeah.
#2378 [22:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Is this classic, or Premium?
#2379 [22:45] <basketball22> any other way?
#2380 [22:45] <basketball22> oh premium is thee paid one right?
#2381 [22:45] <Blood_Mind> how do i go to that?
#2382 [22:45] <basketball22> :p
#2383 [22:45] <CrusaderDeleters> It is.
#2384 [22:45] <basketball22> yeah i have it
#2385 [22:45] <CrusaderDeleters> http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/.minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar Blood, click on this.
#2386 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: What happens when you download the minecraft.jar launcher from the web site, and use that instead?
#2387 [22:45] <cj360> hello, recently purchased MC but updating screen gets stuck when it's Retrieving lwjgl.jar.
#2388 [22:46] <Blood_Mind> ok
#2389 [22:46] <Blood_Mind> what now?
#2390 [22:46] <basketball22> its fine if i do it offline in my downloads
#2391 [22:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Did you download it and use it, blood?
#2392 [22:46] <Blood_Mind> i opened it
#2393 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> ??> cj360 virus
#2394 [22:46] <VoxelHead> cj360: (virus) There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#2395 [22:46] <VoxelHead> cj360: (virus) For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#2396 [22:46] <basketball22> was that to me disk
#2397 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> cj360: You can find out if this is the problem, by temporarily disabling your antivirus program for the download
#2398 [22:47] <CrusaderDeleters> In a sense, minecraft is being blocked because it is flagged as a malicious software. It's not, however.
#2399 [22:47] <basketball22> so delete my antivirus then re download it
#2400 [22:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Basket, that wasn't directed to you.
#2401 [22:47] <cj360> AVG doesn't have an issue with it. But I added a rule to allow it and it didn't change
#2402 [22:48] <basketball22> oh sorry
#2403 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> blood, look on your desktop for a txt file.
#2404 [22:48] <Blood_Mind> k
#2405 [22:48] <clarjon1> cj360: disable avg, then try again.
#2406 [22:48] <Blood_Mind> dont see it
#2407 [22:48] <Blood_Mind> was i supposed to save, or open the file?
#2408 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Either or.
#2409 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Did you pick open?
#2410 [22:48] <Blood_Mind> yes
#2411 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> With MCH you go to %appdata%\.minecraft and open minecraft.log
#2412 [22:49] <Blood_Mind> where do i put that?
#2413 [22:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright, copy the contents over to http://www.pastebin.com
#2414 [22:49] <CrusaderDeleters> ^
#2415 [22:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Jeeze, I don't even know what I want to do with my time anymore.
#2416 [22:49] <Devin> Draw.
#2417 [22:49] <Blood_Mind> copy what contents to pastebin?
#2418 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm bored helping other people, I cannot draw, minecraft is crud.
#2419 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Blood, the text document that is open.
#2420 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Derp
#2421 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I mean minecraft is boring.
#2422 [22:50] <Blood_Mind> there was no text document on my desktop
#2423 [22:50] <Devin> |10:48:07|» <DiskDaemon> With MCH you go to %appdata%\.minecraft and open minecraft.log
#2424 [22:50] <basketball22> can someone help me
#2425 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I thought you said that the document opened, blood. XD
#2426 [22:50] <Devin> What's the problem basket?
#2427 [22:51] <CrusaderDeleters> good, three helpers, three people needing it.
#2428 [22:51] <Blood_Mind> no, a webpage pulled up
#2429 [22:51] <Blood_Mind> or something like that
#2430 [22:51] <CrusaderDeleters> I know where you are at now. XD
#2431 [22:51] <Blood_Mind> minecraft launcher
#2432 [22:51] <basketball22> whenever i play the in browser version of mc it come up with the backround of the website no game devin
#2433 [22:51] <Devin> What about downloading it?
#2434 [22:51] <CrusaderDeleters> What kind of web page, blood? Does it include a download?
#2435 [22:52] <cj360> disabled avg, deleted .minecraft from %appdata% and it's still stuck
#2436 [22:52] <basketball22> i did, it works fine
#2437 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: Do you have a paid Minecraft account?
#2438 [22:52] <basketball22> yup
#2439 [22:52] <Devin> Why play in-browser then :3
#2440 [22:52] <CrusaderDeleters> cj, any other anti-virus software?
#2441 [22:52] <clarjon1> cj360: you disabled avg linkscanner as well?
#2442 [22:53] <clarjon1> cj360: are you, by chance, using avg's paid version, or their "Free trial" of the paid version?
#2443 [22:53] <basketball22> ii want to play in browser because i want to use my skin and play on servers
#2444 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: What is your user name?
#2445 [22:53] <basketball22> Dgervs05
#2446 [22:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Blood_Mind: Does the page include a download?
#2447 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> !paid Dgervs05
#2448 [22:53] <basketball22> i tried it on my dads computer and it works fine though
#2449 [22:53] <cj360> only antivirus is avg paid version trying again with linkscanner disabled
#2450 [22:53] <Blood_Mind> several downloads
#2451 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> use one. XD
#2452 [22:54] <clarjon1> cj360: AVG paid version is known for causing MANY problems with updating minecraft.
#2453 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Download onto desktop
#2454 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: Have you downloaded the minecraft.jar file from the website, and tried using that to launch Minecraft?
#2455 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecraft.exe, DiskDaemon.
#2456 [22:54] <basketball22> i can launch it in my downloads fine
#2457 [22:54] <Blood_Mind> k, the highest version?
#2458 [22:54] <cj360> just my luck :(
#2459 [22:54] <CrusaderDeleters> yeah
#2460 [22:54] <Blood_Mind> k
#2461 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: What happens when you try to log in with that?
#2462 [22:55] <basketball22> log in with that? how do you do that.......
#2463 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: Start minecraft.exe, enter in your username and password, then press the login button
#2464 [22:55] <Blood_Mind> how to download? when i click it, it just pulls up another webpage
#2465 [22:56] <cj360> what other AV's don't conflict with minecraft?
#2466 [22:56] <CrusaderDeleters> I say we form a second channel for Minecrafthelp helpers to discuss any problems without the spam of this channel. XD
#2467 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: What des that page show?
#2468 [22:56] <Blood_Mind> different versions of minecraft
#2469 [22:56] <basketball22> wheres minecraft. exe...........
#2470 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> cj360: Microsoft Secusity Essentials is a well-recomended antivirus
#2471 [22:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Malwarebytes
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#2473 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: You said that you downloaded it and can launch it from your downloads?
#2474 [22:57] <Blood_Mind> me?
#2475 [22:57] <Blood_Mind> oh
#2476 [22:57] <CrusaderDeleters> I like the little pirates channel I made. It's useful for showing the torrents of nothing. XD
#2477 [22:57] <cj360> Security essioals from M*soft? other than their OS their other products are kinda iffy
#2478 [22:58] <basketball22> im already logged in it says my username there
#2479 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> cj360: Dies it show a message after it get stuck with lwjgl.jar ?
#2480 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> *does
#2481 [22:58] <Blood_Mind> i clicked Minecraft Beta 1.8
#2482 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: Okay, take us through the trouble that you have when trying to use that
#2483 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: Open up notepad, and the open the minecraft.log file
#2484 [22:59] <cj360> after a while it says fatal error connection reset
#2485 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> cj360: That's a known issue caused by AVG. Temporarily disable it and try again
#2486 [23:00] <Blood_Mind> cant find it
#2487 [23:00] <basketball22> disk the only problem i have is with the in browser version it doesnt load it doesnt even come up
#2488 [23:00] <Blood_Mind> is it the stuff i copied before?
#2489 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: You can't find notepad?
#2490 [23:00] <Blood_Mind> no, the file
#2491 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> The file is in %appdata%\.minecraft and open minecraft.log
#2492 [23:01] <Blood_Mind> ok, got it
#2493 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: What version of Java does it show for you at http://javatester.org/version.html
#2494 [23:02] <basketball22> WOW IM DUMB
#2495 [23:02] <basketball22> browsers has java disabled
#2496 [23:02] <basketball22> thats what it said
#2497 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, good to know :)
#2498 [23:02] <CapnJackSparrer> I must update java! D:
#2499 [23:03] <cj360> wow. I'm dumb. Somthing in AVG was still on. temp. disabled avg and it worked. thx for the help ppls
#2500 [23:03] <CapnJackSparrer> Np.
#2501 [23:03] <CapnJackSparrer> Wait
#2502 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> cj360: That's okay, you're welcome
#2503 [23:03] <basketball22> where do i download java?
#2504 [23:03] <CapnJackSparrer> Get MSE plox. c:
#2505 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> From http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#2506 [23:03] <Blood_Mind> i found it Daemon
#2507 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: Good one, copy the contents and paste it to pastebin.com
#2508 [23:04] <Blood_Mind> ok
#2509 [23:04] <Blood_Mind> ok
#2510 [23:04] <basketball22> how do i download?
#2511 [23:04] <Blood_Mind> done
#2512 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: Is your Windows 32-bit or 64-bit
#2513 [23:05] <basketball22> 64 bit i think
#2514 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> Then choose the Windows x64 one
#2515 [23:05] <basketball22> gonna try it out know...
#2516 [23:06] <basketball22> still is not working
#2517 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: we can't see what you put on pastebin.com, until you hit the Submit button and let us know the page link
#2518 [23:06] <Linknzelda123> Basket, why don't you use the downloaded Minecraft.exe to save yourself the trouble? c:
#2519 [23:06] <Blood_Mind> oh, my bad
#2520 [23:06] <Blood_Mind> http://pastebin.com/VhFgrWSe
#2521 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: Have you accepted the license agreement? It's a radio button just above the links
#2522 [23:07] <basketball22> i really want to play on a server thats why
#2523 [23:07] <basketball22> and yeah i have disk
#2524 [23:07] <Linknzelda123> Oh wow.
#2525 [23:07] <Linknzelda123> Minecraft crashing over a pretty useless text document.
#2526 [23:08] <superkabii> ...it should create the file, then
#2527 [23:08] <basketball22> ugh
#2528 [23:08] <superkabii> it shouldn't crash, that exception gets thrown every time you start up and the file doesn't exist
#2529 [23:09] <Linknzelda123> What kind of uploading site is tehre?
#2530 [23:09] <basketball22> you cant play on servers in the downloaded one correct?
#2531 [23:09] <Linknzelda123> Basket, you can play on either one, neither supplies servers though.
#2532 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: Thanks for that, can you follow these instructions?
#2533 [23:09] <Linknzelda123> You must look for the server yourself.
#2534 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> ??> Blood_Mind win/dxdiag
#2535 [23:09] <VoxelHead> Blood_Mind: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2536 [23:09] <VoxelHead> Blood_Mind: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2537 [23:10] <basketball22> i know but if you have the ip u cant on downloaded one right
#2538 [23:10] <basketball22> zelda
#2539 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: Have you had both an AMD and an nVidia graphics card in that computer?
#2540 [23:11] <Blood_Mind> i dont know, if thats what you need to play minecraft, then yes
#2541 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: Please follow the instructions from VoxelHead
#2542 [23:12] <Blood_Mind> http://pastebin.com/4SdPi9rR
#2543 [23:12] <Blood_Mind> k
#2544 [23:12] <Linknzelda123> ?
#2545 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> ta
#2546 [23:13] <basketball22> if you have the ip of a server can u join it on the downloaded one
#2547 [23:13] <Blood_Mind> no instructions have been posted yet
#2548 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: Can you please update your amd video card drivers to the latest one
#2549 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> ??> Blood_Mind gpu/amd
#2550 [23:14] <VoxelHead> Blood_Mind: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2551 [23:14] <Blood_Mind> ok
#2552 [23:15] <superkabii> basketball22, the downloaded and browser versions are exactly the same, unless you're talking about Minecraft classic
#2553 [23:16] <Blood_Mind> k, download complete
#2554 [23:16] <Blood_Mind> does it matter where i save it
#2555 [23:16] <Blood_Mind> i mean instal it
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#2557 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> Normally the downloads folder is where you save it. YOu can then delete the file when finished with it
#2558 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> Accept the provided default install location
#2559 [23:17] <Blood_Mind> k
#2560 [23:18] <Blood_Mind> did it
#2561 [23:18] <Blood_Mind> press install?
#2562 [23:18] <DiskDaemon> Yes
#2563 [23:19] <basketball22> i cant join servers in the downloaded
#2564 [23:19] <Linknzelda123> http://www.gamezgalaxy.com/forum/topic/1733-repairing-my-pc/
#2565 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: What message does it give when you try to join a server?
#2566 [23:19] <Linknzelda123> A reason why Malwarebytes is good.
#2567 [23:20] <pekster> Is there an issue with new installs/updates? I can launch the jar and get the LauncherFrame, but downloads keep throwing Connection reset errors. I'm running Windows x64 with Oracle JRE 7u5 x64
#2568 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> pekster: Which antivirus program are you using?
#2569 [23:21] <basketball22> disk it says connection lost failled to login bad login
#2570 [23:21] <pekster> DiskDaemon, AVG; is there a known issue there? It keeps failing on different files at different percentages
#2571 [23:22] <DiskDaemon> pekster: Yes, there is a known issue with AVG. Temporarily disable it and try again
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#2574 [23:23] <pekster> DiskDaemon: Thanks, that did the trick. What a shame there was no log entry or other notification from AVG about the issue :\
#2575 [23:23] <basketball22> diskdaemon it says connection lost failed to login bad login
#2576 [23:24] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: I'm looking
#2577 [23:24] <DiskDaemon> pekster: you're welcome
#2578 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: There is a known serer issue where you can't connect from the internet when online-mode is set to false
#2579 [23:26] <Blood_Mind> sorry, i had to do something, the instalation is complete
#2580 [23:26] <basketball22> how do you fix that?
#2581 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: What type of server are you trying to connect to?
#2582 [23:27] <basketball22> just regular not whitelist i dont think
#2583 [23:27] <DiskDaemon> What list of servers are you using?
#2584 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> Blood_Mind: After updating your graphics driver, please reboot and see how you go with Minecraft
#2585 [23:28] <basketball22> what do you mean
#2586 [23:28] <basketball22> i really only join random servers on utube
#2587 [23:28] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: You said you can't join servers. What servers are you trying to join?
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#2589 [23:29] <basketball22> ones i found on youtube
#2590 [23:29] <basketball22> i cant be that specific sorry
#2591 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> It's okay. What happens when you try to connect to the Reddit server, at s.nerd.nu
#2592 [23:30] <basketball22> thats the ip
#2593 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> You can use the domain name to connect to a server, as in the case with s.nerd.nu - or an ip address. Either works
#2594 [23:31] <Blood_Mind> ok
#2595 [23:32] <basketball22> i tried s.nerd.nu it dont work :(
#2596 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> basketball22: I don't know as much as I should yet about helping you further with that issue
#2597 [23:33] <basketball22> ok thanks for help anyway
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#2599 [23:35] <Linknzelda123> Disk, what did it tell him when he tried to connect to teh server?
#2600 [23:36] <Linknzelda123> DiskDaemon?
#2601 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> [15:21:12] <basketball22> disk it says connection lost failled to login bad login
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#2603 [23:37] <Linknzelda123> Did he enter in teh correct confidential information?
#2604 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> For logging in to the launcher?
#2605 [23:38] <Linknzelda123> Actually, it would say "User is not premium." if he bypassed the username.
#2606 [23:38] <Linknzelda123> Yeah.
#2607 [23:38] <Linknzelda123> It's odd.
#2608 [23:39] <Linknzelda123> Shoulda told him to run that one MCH launcher.
#2609 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> I didn't think you could try to connect to a server without entering in your login details first
#2610 [23:39] <Linknzelda123> There's some you can, with a certain browser.
#2611 [23:40] <Linknzelda123> Also, It's going to be fun dodging Keyloggers in 1.4.
#2612 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> What's going on there?
#2613 [23:41] <Linknzelda123> 1.4 = "api update."
#2614 [23:41] <Linknzelda123> Doubt it.
#2615 [23:41] <Linknzelda123> People will try to hack you with mods.
#2616 [23:41] <Linknzelda123> I know it will happen, because some people aren't really aware of what can actually be ran via modded minecraft.
#2617 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> oh right. Grum was congratulating me earlier when I told people that the plugins api will be after the 1.3 one. That's because there's no guarantee that it'll be 1.4, it could be 1.5, or 1.8, or 2.0 :)
#2618 [23:42] <Linknzelda123> Yep.
#2619 [23:42] <Linknzelda123> That's what bugs me.
#2620 [23:42] <Linknzelda123> I put it in quotes because I was hinting it MIGHT be 1.4
#2621 [23:43] <Linknzelda123> IT was pushed since 1.7. Doesn't that make you think it won't be 1.4?
#2622 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> We'll be able to keep track of that to some degree via the weekly snapshots
#2623 [23:43] <Linknzelda123> I just know I will have to watch my back left and right when installing new mods. That's true.
#2624 [23:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Gah.
#2625 [23:44] <CrusaderDeleters> I hate that alias sometimes. Makes me feel a little more childish.
#2626 [23:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Eh. I must go to bed. Gotta wake up in 6:45 for work.
#2627 [23:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Gnight.
#2628 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> See ya
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#2633 [23:55] <Blood_Mind> ...it didn't work, now i dont see Java load at all, it goes striat to the black screen now
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#2635 [23:56] <Blood_Mind> would you like to see the screenshot and a detailed description of what's going on?
#2636 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> sure things
#2637 [23:58] <Blood_Mind> https://getsatisfaction.com/cobalt/topics/minecraft_game_isnt_loading
#2638 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> What version of java does this tell you that you have? http://javatester.org/version.html
#2639 [23:59] <Blood_Mind> got a better understanding of my problem?