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#18 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> ?find langkid1 42
#19 [00:57] <VoxelHead> langkid1, http://is.gd/7JM4on
#20 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> :/
#21 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> only works in here
#22 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> bugger
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#28 [01:08] <iwannaplayminecraft> i am trying to buy minecraft but it is not able to process transaction
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#30 [01:08] <iwannaplayminecraft> i tried paypal and through minecraft.net
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#32 [01:11] <iwannaplayminecraft> hello?
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#47 [02:01] <Qflame> Hello?
#48 [02:01] <tips48> Hello
#49 [02:01] <Qflame> I came here to help people with minecraft problems
#50 [02:02] <tips48> Sounds like fun
#51 [02:03] <Qflame> Isn't that what this chat thing is for? How would I find people to help!
#52 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> Alright then. Name 4 reasons why people would get a "Can't connect to minecraft.net" error.
#53 [02:04] <tips48> 1) Bad internet connection. 2) Minecraft.net is down
#54 [02:04] <tips48> There, I helped you out ;0
#55 [02:04] <tips48> ;)*
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#57 [02:05] <Qflame> Those were the only 2 I could think of
#58 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Yeah.. no.
#59 [02:05] <tips48> lol
#60 [02:05] * tips48 facepalms
#60 [02:05] <Qflame> Ok so now what I just have to leave?
#61 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Stick around, maybe you'll learn some stuff.
#62 [02:07] <tips48> Any word on if Mojang will be patching up the hitboxes in 1.3?
#63 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#64 [02:07] <tips48> I was able to modify the client to noclip through any block in like 5 minutes :|
#65 [02:08] <tips48> Kind of annoying because it gets abused on my bukkit server alot -.-
#66 [02:08] <tips48> ^Poor guy
#67 [02:08] <tips48> He just wanted to help
#68 [02:08] <tips48> lol
#69 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> A "Can't connect to minecraft.net" is one of the more frequent problems..
#70 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> It also has quite the widespread amount of causes..
#71 [02:09] <tips48> Unfortunately, yep
#72 [02:09] <tips48> What would be two others?
#73 [02:09] <tips48> Can't say I know myself
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#75 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> Here's what I was going to type up:
#76 [02:09] <tips48> Don't do much client-side work
#77 [02:09] <GreyVulpine> "Can't connect to minecraft.net" can be caused by a variety of reasons. Here's a short list: Incorrect time/date on the computer, special characters in a windows username, firewall/security software blocking java from communicating, having java 7 installed concurrently with java 6, malware (specifically something called relevant knowledge).
#78 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> There's some others I'm leaving out as well.
#79 [02:10] <tips48> Ahh
#80 [02:11] <tips48> Java 7 installed with java 6 shouldn't be a problem, yes? I've got both installed (JDK's, which include the JRE) because I'll dev for Bukkit which is 1.6 (1.5 really) or my own server which I've modified to 1.7
#81 [02:11] <Qflame> Ok well that is not my area of expertise when helping people with minecraft so bye everyone
#82 [02:11] <tips48> o.o
#83 [02:11] <tips48> lol
#84 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> tips48 - The thing is, with java 7, the JVM defaults to IPv6 when trying to intialize a connection. Minecraft doesn't use IPv6 be default
#85 [02:11] <tips48> Aha, that would be the issue
#86 [02:11] <tips48> So the issue is java 7 in general, or only with 1.6?
#87 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> by default*
#88 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> The issue is with java 7 in general. There are some that report a working minecraft install, when there's a clean install..
#89 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> But we frequently see this occur when Java 7 is installed over 6.
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#91 [02:13] <tips48> Makes sense
#92 [02:13] <tips48> Why is everyone using webchat? That's a little weird
#93 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> Apparently we're relisted on mojang's help page now
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#96 [02:15] <tips48> Yea, I saw
#97 [02:15] <tips48> How I got here in the first place
#98 [02:15] <tips48> I should add to my ZNC
#99 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Ah, welcome.
#100 [02:15] <tips48> Sometimes funny stuff happens
#101 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Well, this is #minecrafthelp on irc.esper.net
#102 [02:15] <viveleroi> so we're just free tech support for mojang? do they even pay anyone for tech support?
#103 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> We're unofficial, official support, run by community volunteers. We don't see a cent from Mojang.
#104 [02:16] <tips48> GreyVulpine, Obviously, I connected with xchat
#105 [02:16] * GreyVulpine ahs and nods
#105 [02:16] <tips48> If you check I'm on quite a bit of channels
#106 [02:16] <tips48> But who cares :p
#107 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> I'm on a few myself.
#108 [02:16] <viveleroi> but do they even pay anyone to run tech support?
#109 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Yes they do
#110 [02:16] <viveleroi> who
#111 [02:16] <GreyVulpine> Around the start of the year, they started hiring tech support people.
#112 [02:16] <tips48> GreyVulpine, I win the most-channels-joined contest
#113 [02:16] <tips48> :P
#114 [02:16] <Djyfhivcd> Not us
#115 [02:17] <viveleroi> my point is, I have a lot respect for them if they're just leeching of volunteers
#116 [02:17] <tips48> I have lost a*
#117 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> We're here, because we like to help out, not that Mojang uses us.
#118 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> I've donated almost two years worth of time here, started back in alpha.
#119 [02:18] <viveleroi> so where do customers of mojang go to get support?
#120 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Now? through help.mojang.com
#121 [02:18] <tips48> help.mojang.com
#122 [02:18] <tips48> damn ninja's
#123 [02:18] * GreyVulpine grins
#123 [02:18] <tips48> ninja's everywhere
#124 [02:18] <tips48> ;)
#125 [02:19] <viveleroi> so when someone has to talk to a mojang support rep?
#126 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> They'll use the email link at help.mojang.com
#127 [02:19] <viveleroi> and that goes to an actual mojang employee?
#128 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#129 [02:19] <tips48> Yes
#130 [02:19] <tips48> Dammit
#131 [02:19] * tips48 cries
#131 [02:19] <GreyVulpine> You'll find that I'm quite a ninja here.
#132 [02:20] <tips48> Gotta up that WPM if I ever want to respond :D
#133 [02:20] <tips48> I'm coding a website and plugin for bukkit atm. Doesn't count :(
#134 [02:20] <GreyVulpine> Fair enough. Heh.
#135 [02:20] <tips48> Sublime text and eclipse are getting in my way xd
#136 [02:20] <tips48> xD8
#137 [02:20] <tips48> xD*
#138 [02:20] <tips48> jesus
#139 [02:20] * GreyVulpine pats VoxelHead on the head.
#139 [02:21] * tips48 sobs
#139 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Anti-flood script.
#140 [02:21] <tips48> I don't type that fast xD
#141 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Helps heaps when people try to paste more than 3 lines in a few seconds.
#142 [02:21] <tips48> Yea
#143 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> ie, an error report.
#144 [02:21] <tips48> We get that alot in #bukkitdev
#145 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Ah, yeah..
#146 [02:21] <tips48> People pasting multiple java classes = alot of lines...
#147 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> Pfft. Hah
#148 [02:21] <tips48> Unless their code absolutely sucks ;)
#149 [02:22] <tips48> But yea, minecraft errors reports are...long
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#151 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Or a dxdiag report. Ugh
#152 [02:22] <tips48> Yeesh
#153 [02:22] <tips48> pastie is there for a reason
#154 [02:22] * GreyVulpine nods
#154 [02:22] <tips48> I got a nice little message from VoxelHead
#155 [02:22] <tips48> Was cute ;)
#156 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> That you do.
#157 [02:22] <tips48> Although, it wasn't very informative
#158 [02:22] <tips48> It should include something like
#159 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Hasn't been updated in a year or more
#160 [02:23] <tips48> "If you are pasting a log or an error, please use pastie.org or pastebin.com"
#161 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> Nah, other time, we do get the occasional spammer.
#162 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> times*
#163 [02:23] <tips48> Just a small suggestion since your alot higher up than me ;)
#164 [02:23] <tips48> And yea, I know
#165 [02:23] <tips48> Hence the if
#166 [02:23] * GreyVulpine nods
#166 [02:23] * tips48 can talk in third person too!
#166 [02:23] <tips48> xD
#167 [02:23] * GreyVulpine yays
#167 [02:24] * GreyVulpine gives you a gold star.
#167 [02:24] <tips48> cheers*
#168 [02:24] * tips48 puts the gold star on his back
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#169 [02:24] <tips48> Ahh, I hate #Minecraft
#170 [02:24] <tips48> So much spam
#171 [02:25] <tips48> So little discussion
#172 [02:25] <tips48> I remember why I didn't idle there now
#173 [02:25] <tips48> :/
#174 [02:25] * GreyVulpine shrugs and nods
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#176 [02:27] <tips48> Hmm
#177 [02:27] <tips48> 2:30AM
#178 [02:27] <tips48> Time to code o.O
#179 [02:27] <GreyVulpine> Ah, fellow east coaster..
#180 [02:28] <tips48> Heh, yep
#181 [02:28] <tips48> Well, not really
#182 [02:29] <tips48> I'm about as far from the east coast as you can be within the EST
#183 [02:30] <tips48> Take a guess :P
#184 [02:31] * GreyVulpine coughs and cheats with /whois
#184 [02:31] <GreyVulpine> Ah.
#185 [02:32] <GreyVulpine> Welp, going to call it a night here.
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#188 [02:35] <tips48> Night
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#201 [02:58] <portablejim> Is xAuth the best mod for authentication in offline mode?
#202 [02:58] <tips48> For bukkit?
#203 [02:58] <tips48> I'd have to say yes
#204 [02:59] <tips48> But any offline-mode authentication is going to be, 'fishy' at best
#205 [02:59] <Calinou> isn't its development dropped?
#206 [02:59] <tips48> I think it might be
#207 [02:59] <tips48> Not sure, Haven't had a use for offline authentication in such a long time
#208 [02:59] <portablejim> yes, for bukkit. Just using it for a lan party.
#209 [03:00] <tips48> Lan party shouldn't need authentication :p
#210 [03:00] <tips48> But yea, if xAuth works without errors go with it
#211 [03:00] <portablejim> How do you stop everyone from coming up as "Player" and kicking each other off?
#212 [03:00] <Calinou> ban Player. ;)
#213 [03:01] <tips48> lolno :D
#214 [03:01] <tips48> Without online mode, there really isn't a way
#215 [03:01] <tips48> Trust me, we've tried
#216 [03:01] <tips48> Something like xAuth is your best bet
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#218 [03:03] <Necrodoom> why use offline mode
#219 [03:03] <Necrodoom> online mode works
#220 [03:03] <Necrodoom> auth servers are up now
#221 [03:03] <Calinou> session stealing
#222 [03:03] <Calinou> and people who didn't buy the game
#223 [03:04] <Calinou> session stealing is fixed in 1.3 fortunately
#224 [03:04] <portablejim> Necrodoom: Friends don't have the game.
#225 [03:04] <tips48> But 1.3 is a long, long way off
#226 [03:04] <Calinou> or snapshots ;) but no bukkit for snapshots :|
#227 [03:04] <Necrodoom> 1.3 will prob have a ghost player glitch anyway
#228 [03:04] <tips48> If bukkit supported snapshots, the work for the bleeding devs (Me!) would be insane
#229 [03:04] <Necrodoom> so no point for nodus
#230 [03:04] <tips48> So much updating
#231 [03:05] <tips48> So little features
#232 [03:05] <Necrodoom> and so much bugs
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#236 [03:06] <tips48> Yea
#237 [03:06] <tips48> The amount of time it takes to update and write the API's for new features is insane
#238 [03:06] <Calinou> tips48, still quite active for an indie game. I was impressed about the update rate when I started playing MC
#239 [03:06] <tips48> I'm still working on the villager API
#240 [03:06] * Calinou is used to opensource games
#240 [03:06] <tips48> Lol
#241 [03:06] <tips48> If minecraft was opensource..
#242 [03:06] <Calinou> <Necrodoom> 1.3 will prob have a ghost player glitch anyway < explain?
#243 [03:06] <tips48> Bukkit would be so much easier
#244 [03:07] <tips48> I wouldn't waste my time in #Bukkit-Bleeding lmao at trying to get stuff to work without client mods
#245 [03:07] <Calinou> yes, mojang still (re)obfuscates their source... that's getting annoying for modders
#246 [03:07] <tips48> yea
#247 [03:07] <tips48> tell me about it
#248 [03:07] <Necrodoom> Calinou: a player data bug with position
#249 [03:07] <Calinou> oh, entity sync bug
#250 [03:08] <Necrodoom> Calinou: since it can cause problems, i wont say how to replicate
#251 [03:08] <Calinou> I know what's the entity sync bug and when does it happen, mr. ohwowilikelegitpvp
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#254 [03:10] <Droperzo> Where would i go for java support?
#255 [03:10] <Droperzo> With minecraft,
#256 [03:10] <tips48> What kind?
#257 [03:11] <tips48> Here is a good place
#258 [03:11] <Droperzo> Im trying to install optifine and modloader
#259 [03:11] <tips48> What's your issue
#260 [03:11] <tips48> Ahh, modding
#261 [03:11] <Droperzo> and im using MagicLauncher
#262 [03:11] <Droperzo> wait
#263 [03:11] <Droperzo> I try to run it and get an error
#264 [03:11] <Necrodoom> magiclauncher?
#265 [03:11] <Necrodoom> wtf is that
#266 [03:11] <Droperzo> Error occurred during initialization of VM
#267 [03:11] <Droperzo> Could not reserve enough space for object heap
#268 [03:12] <Droperzo> I read about the error and apparently its an error with to much allocated memory on a 32 bit java system, but i know i have a 64 bit java installed
#269 [03:12] <tips48> That error means that you don't have enough memory for java to run with
#270 [03:12] <tips48> Yes
#271 [03:12] <Droperzo> tips48: I know, but i have 64 bit installed and minceraft sees it
#272 [03:12] <tips48> Do you have 64 bit windows?
#273 [03:12] <Droperzo> yea
#274 [03:12] <tips48> hmm
#275 [03:12] <tips48> weird
#276 [03:12] <Droperzo> Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit
#277 [03:12] <tips48> Can you open your cmd and type java -version
#278 [03:12] <Droperzo> i did
#279 [03:12] <tips48> And paste the results here
#280 [03:12] <Droperzo> its 64.
#281 [03:12] <tips48> Paste the full results
#282 [03:14] <Droperzo> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit server UM (build 23.1-b03, mixed mode)
#283 [03:14] <Droperzo> thats the part you need, i know :P
#284 [03:15] <tips48> Java 1.7?
#285 [03:15] <Droperzo> java version "1.7.0_05"
#286 [03:15] <Droperzo> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_05-b05)
#287 [03:15] <Droperzo> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.1-b03, mixed mode)
#288 [03:16] <Droperzo> there thats the full paste :P
#289 [03:16] <tips48> Hmm
#290 [03:16] <Droperzo> it just muted me -.-
#291 [03:16] <tips48> Yea, use pastie.org or pastebin.com for longer information like that
#292 [03:16] <tips48> The bot is...very particular
#293 [03:16] <tips48> I got muted for typing fast ;P
#294 [03:16] <Droperzo> lol. So any idea whats up?
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#296 [03:16] <Droperzo> mc works fine until optifine comes into play so,
#297 [03:17] <tips48> Not quite sure
#298 [03:17] <tips48> Can you link me to MagicLauncher?
#299 [03:17] <Droperzo> Sure.
#300 [03:18] <Droperzo> i did my research, its legit but heres the link http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939149-launcher-magic-launcher-098-mods-options-news/
#301 [03:18] <tips48> One sec
#302 [03:19] <tips48> Your saying you can't even get the launcher to load?
#303 [03:19] <tips48> I just downloaded and could run
#304 [03:19] <Droperzo> it loads, it launches, i try to login but i got the error i pasted earlier
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#306 [03:19] <tips48> Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit java 7
#307 [03:19] <tips48> Oh, lemme try to login
#308 [03:19] <tips48> It's most likely and issue with the launcher
#309 [03:19] <seal6000> how do i change the amount of memory i give to minecraft
#310 [03:19] <Droperzo> I tried it with my regualar mc launcher, it crashed
#311 [03:20] <Droperzo> this one just gives me the error dialog
#312 [03:20] <tips48> Droperzo, Can you use regular minecraft?
#313 [03:20] <Droperzo> With no mods installed , yea
#314 [03:20] <tips48> Yea, MagicLauncher crashes for me too
#315 [03:20] <tips48> Same error as you
#316 [03:20] <tips48> I'd take it up with the dev
#317 [03:20] <tips48> Give him all the information you gave me, even if you think it's not relevant
#318 [03:20] <tips48> The more, the better
#319 [03:21] <Droperzo> Dev of what, magiclauncher or optifine?
#320 [03:21] <tips48> magiclauncher
#321 [03:21] <tips48> Wait, does regular minecraft work when you install optifine?
#322 [03:21] <Droperzo> no, thats what i mean
#323 [03:21] <tips48> ohhh...
#324 [03:21] <Droperzo> its the allocated memory
#325 [03:21] <tips48> That's..really weird
#326 [03:21] <tips48> Not quite sure
#327 [03:21] <tips48> Sorry
#328 [03:21] <Droperzo> it says it cant handle what it needs because it needs 64 bit java
#329 [03:21] <seal6000> how do i change the allocated memory
#330 [03:21] <Droperzo> but i have 64 bit
#331 [03:21] <seal6000>
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#333 [03:23] <ClOuDv> I have got 2 new players on and became an owner. I have no idea how.
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#335 [03:23] <ClOuDv> they came on as a guest first. then they told the the owner (my friend) to join their server, they needed help.
#336 [03:24] <ClOuDv> but after he entered the ip and joined it. it brought him to his own server still.
#337 [03:24] <Droperzo> tips48: Ok so, i just fixed the issue.
#338 [03:24] <ClOuDv> and after he got back to his own server. he saw those 2 guys are the owner instead
#339 [03:24] <ClOuDv> how did that happen?
#340 [03:24] <ClOuDv> please someone
#341 [03:25] <Droperzo> clouddv
#342 [03:25] <Droperzo> They used Nodus Session Stealer
#343 [03:25] <ClOuDv> :|
#344 [03:25] <ClOuDv> any vid that I could look at how they do it?
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#346 [03:25] <ClOuDv> and how would I prevent that?
#347 [03:25] <Droperzo> The owner joined their fake server, it redirected him back to his own server and forced him to type /op (names)
#348 [03:25] <seal6000> how do i change the allocated memory?
#349 [03:25] <Droperzo> Anyone who can op people, dont join random servers.
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#351 [03:26] <Droperzo> tips48: I decided to give up and close all my applications, Google Chrome (About 6 tabs), all my iexplorer windows, some other stuff and it worked
#352 [03:26] <Droperzo> i suppose my memory was running low because of all the crap i had running
#353 [03:26] <Droperzo> and minecraft couldnt use it
#354 [03:26] <Calinou> chrome is a RAM-eater :) because of per-process tabs
#355 [03:27] <tips48> DreamingInsane, Yea, you must of haven't had enough memory
#356 [03:27] <tips48> What Calinou is very true
#357 [03:27] <ClOuDv> okay so Droperzo, to prevent it, he just need to avoid joining random ip they gave?
#358 [03:27] <Droperzo> Yea cloud
#359 [03:27] <tips48> You can tweak that so it uses less memory in the settings
#360 [03:27] <tips48> google it
#361 [03:27] <tips48> Yea, cloud, admin's can't just join random ip's
#362 [03:27] <Droperzo> *Goes to google* *Minecraft crashes*
#363 [03:27] <tips48> Due to nodus :/
#364 [03:27] <tips48> Droperzo, lol
#365 [03:27] <Droperzo> xD
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#367 [03:27] <Calinou> don't join random advertised servers ClOuDv
#368 [03:27] <Droperzo> after all that optifine still hasnt done anything noticeable to my fps, >.>
#369 [03:28] <Calinou> offline mode servers are mostly always safe though, but do NOT register with the same password you use for your MC account.
#370 [03:28] <Calinou> contrary to common belief, xauth/register passwords can be easily desencrypted
#371 [03:28] <Calinou> Droperzo, it may not (depends of graphic cards) but at least, it gives HD texture support and more config. options
#372 [03:28] <Calinou> still better than NotchRender(R)
#373 [03:29] <tips48> ^lol
#374 [03:29] <tips48> And yes, xauth is very insecure
#375 [03:29] <ClOuDv> ok guys. thanks a lot
#376 [03:30] <tips48> Yea, sure
#377 [03:30] <ClOuDv> so are we gonna be fine though?
#378 [03:30] <tips48> Just be weary of random IP's and your fine
#379 [03:30] <Droperzo> Did he de-op them cloud?
#380 [03:30] <tips48> Yes..Tell your friend to log out of minecraft
#381 [03:30] <tips48> And log back in
#382 [03:30] <ClOuDv> we already ban their IP and reported to the host
#383 [03:30] <tips48> And your good
#384 [03:31] <Calinou> protip: install NoCheatPlus :P
#385 [03:31] <ClOuDv> it tripped him out :/
#386 [03:31] <Droperzo> Calinou: Uhm, is there anyway to force my minecraft fps to stay at a constant 100 (around), i know my computer can handle it, and i cant find a setting in my new Optifine menus xD
#387 [03:31] <Calinou> restricts op/deop to console (optional), and is basically an anticheat; eats a bit of CPU but definitely worth it
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#389 [03:31] <ClOuDv> no this session stealer is different though
#390 [03:31] <Calinou> Droperzo, no you cannot "force" your FPS sadly; if so, netbooks would have 500FPS then :P
#391 [03:31] <ClOuDv> oh
#392 [03:32] <Droperzo> Oh. So optifine just makes it possible to nerf some minecraft graphics to keep higher fps?
#393 [03:32] <Calinou> here's some tips if you want increased FPS: disable some/all particles ("Animations" menu), disable fog, disable advanced opengl, set fullscreen resolution to some low one and use fullscreen (F11)
#394 [03:32] <Calinou> it sometimes gives higher FPS with same settings; because of less funky rendering code
#395 [03:32] <Necrodoom> and deleting map.txt
#396 [03:32] <Calinou> you might try mipmapping too (in quality menu), set the mode to "nearest"
#397 [03:33] <Calinou> Necrodoom, why would it reduce performance?
#398 [03:33] <Calinou> doesn't it break the game in some way, too?
#399 [03:33] <Necrodoom> Calinou: from testing, it increases fps by a lot
#400 [03:33] <Necrodoom> Calinou: while i dont know the cause, i know that if i delete it i get my FPS boosted
#401 [03:34] <Calinou> well you might try doing that Droperzo - backup your minecraft.jar first
#402 [03:34] <Calinou> (just copy-paste it.)
#403 [03:34] <Calinou> the map.txt is in the "achievement" folder if you want to test
#404 [03:35] <ClOuDv> wow, they even have a tutorial on youtube. those mother*******
#405 [03:35] <Calinou> ClOuDv, griefer/hacker videos are pretty common on youtube; just ignore them
#406 [03:36] <ClOuDv> yeah :/
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#408 [03:36] <DiskDaemon> That map.txt file contains code that created the achievements menu background
#409 [03:36] <Necrodoom> seen lots of griefer videos claiming to grief other servers
#410 [03:37] <Necrodoom> while its the owner's own server
#411 [03:37] <Necrodoom> which is sad
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#414 [03:39] <aashdown> Can i buy minecraft with a prepaid visa gift card
#415 [03:40] <Calinou> I don't know, depends if paypal or moneybookers accept them
#416 [03:40] <ClOuDv> I don't think you can use gift card online
#417 [03:40] <ClOuDv> I tried
#418 [03:40] <Calinou> ?? payment
#419 [03:40] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#420 [03:40] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#421 [03:40] <DiskDaemon> You can use a visa to buy a gift code, but not paypal.
#422 [03:40] <ClOuDv> and btw Necrodoom, it is really sad.
#423 [03:41] <DiskDaemon> ??> ClOuDv giftcode
#424 [03:41] <VoxelHead> ClOuDv: (giftcode) To redeem a gift code, go to http://www.minecraft.net/redeem.jsp, log in, and enter the code. Enjoy!
#425 [03:41] <tips48> DiskDaemon, Not what he's asking...
#426 [03:41] <tips48> lol
#427 [03:42] <DiskDaemon> whoops, I saw code instead of card :)
#428 [03:42] <tips48> :)
#429 [03:42] <aashdown> haha yeeea..
#430 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> Yes, you can buy Minecraft with a gift card.
#431 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/823227-guide-buy-minecraft-with-visa-gift-card/
#432 [03:44] <ClOuDv> dawuat?
#433 [03:44] <ClOuDv> lmao!
#434 [03:45] <aashdown> thanks
#435 [03:45] <Necrodoom> why the F you need a tutorial to buy minecraft
#436 [03:46] <ClOuDv> lmao
#437 [03:46] <tips48> lmfao
#438 [03:46] <DiskDaemon> Because things are too complex for people to understand
#439 [03:46] <Necrodoom> MC just has to break anything
#440 [03:47] <DiskDaemon> "never work with children" - I should've listened
#441 [03:47] <Necrodoom> most games ive seen just let you buy straight though
#442 [03:47] <ClOuDv> okay, so if I submit a ticket to any helper here. that there are actually griefers and I got the evidence. would they be banned?
#443 [03:47] <Necrodoom> instead of going though 3rd party
#444 [03:47] <DiskDaemon> Most games are backed by big businesses
#445 [03:48] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: indie games aswell
#446 [03:48] <DiskDaemon> ClOuDv: Nobody here can do anything about griefers on servers
#447 [03:48] <ClOuDv> no like banned their account from MC permernantly
#448 [03:48] <tips48> doubt it
#449 [03:48] <DiskDaemon> You would need to get in touch with ops on the server
#450 [03:48] <tips48> That doesn't happen easy
#451 [03:48] <ClOuDv> :/
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#453 [03:49] <DiskDaemon> No, griefing is not a reason to revoke someones account.
#454 [03:51] <Droperzo> My god....Ethers Shadow Shader mod finally working...its amazing 0.0
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#456 [03:55] <Calinou> and yay, 1FPS - shaders in java
#457 [03:56] <Calinou> griefing is the dark side of minecraft, ClOuDv
#458 [03:56] <Calinou> even the "worst" griefers will not have their premium account revoked
#459 [03:56] <Calinou> however they may be globally banned from ban listings such as mcbans
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#461 [04:01] <ClOuDv> oh
#462 [04:01] <ClOuDv> well if you're on essentials there. you'd know what I mean.
#463 [04:02] <ClOuDv> but since MC is not gonna do anything about it. I guess that's just how it is then
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#465 [04:04] <DiskDaemon> It's a matter of having the resources to do something about it, and handle the whole process of that.
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#469 [04:14] <saeg89> I just bought minecraft and when I click to either ignore the update or download it it always gets stuck partway through and will not move anymore, does anyone know how to get it to play?
#470 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> saeg89: Are you using AVG for your antivirus?
#471 [04:16] <saeg89> i think so
#472 [04:16] <saeg89> yea thats it
#473 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> That's a known problem. Turn off the link scanner, or temporarily disable it while Minecraft updates
#474 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> temporarily disable the AVG antivirus itself, I mean there
#475 [04:17] <Droperzo> The shadow shaders dont give me 1 fps, i get 70 xD
#476 [04:17] <saeg89> oh wow thank you that seemed to work!
#477 [04:17] <saeg89> oh wow thank you that seemed to work!
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#479 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> It's a well known issue around here.
#480 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> If possible, we try to stear people away from AVG to other free antivirus programs, such as Microsoft Security Essentials.
#481 [04:21] <Necrodoom> i use AVG
#482 [04:21] <Necrodoom> used*
#483 [04:21] <Necrodoom> worked fine back then
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#502 [05:33] <julle> how do i change minecraft name?
#503 [05:33] <julle> player name
#504 [05:33] <DiskDaemon> That's not possible at this stage.
#505 [05:33] <julle> why ?
#506 [05:34] <Necrodoom> because its not possible to do so, too complicated for mojang
#507 [05:34] <Necrodoom> they are too busy bugging up stuff
#508 [05:34] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329525-can-i-change-my-username-
#509 [05:34] <Grim_Reaper> Mojang doesnt support username changes right now
#510 [05:34] <julle> they never do that
#511 [05:35] <DiskDaemon> pardon? Who never do what?
#512 [05:36] <Necrodoom> lol
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#515 [06:02] <Grim_Reaper> http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/6/17120364934-orig.png
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#518 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Grim_Reaper: Did you know about the konomi code on that ponyspin page?
#519 [06:17] <Grim_Reaper> Nope
#520 [06:17] <Grim_Reaper> What about it?
#521 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Try it out.
#522 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> You know the konomi code - up up down down left right left right b a Enter
#523 [06:19] <Grim_Reaper> o.O
#524 [06:19] <Grim_Reaper> WOA
#525 [06:19] <TrueWolves> ... what?
#526 [06:19] <Grim_Reaper> Epic :3
#527 [06:19] <DiskDaemon> Sometimes I check out the source code of a page, with unexpected discoveries like that one.
#528 [06:19] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#529 [06:21] <TrueWolves> Huh, that's actually pretty neat.
#530 [06:22] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#532 [06:24] <TheScavenger> Just wondering if minecraft.net is down ?
#533 [06:25] <DiskDaemon> !isdown minecraft.net
#534 [06:25] <Grim_Reaper> Seems to... umm
#535 [06:25] <Grim_Reaper> Be loading for me
#536 [06:25] <TheScavenger> Ok thanks :)
#537 [06:26] <DiskDaemon> Oh, greybot wasn't here :)
#538 [06:27] <Grim_Reaper> You're meant to have a sad face..
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#540 [06:30] <DiskDaemon> :/
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#546 [07:16] <Avata1> hello?
#547 [07:16] <Avata1> uhmmm
#548 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#549 [07:16] <Avata1> can u help me?
#550 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> ??> Avata1 ask
#551 [07:16] <VoxelHead> Avata1: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#552 [07:16] <VoxelHead> Avata1: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#553 [07:17] <Avata1> theres a problem everytime i try to connect using classic its says cant connect server probablydown to all servers
#554 [07:18] <DiskDaemon> What verison of Java does this say that you have? http://javatester.org/version.html
#555 [07:19] <Avata1> 1.7.0_4
#556 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> The Classic version of Minecraft is not compatibile with Java 7. There is a known solution to this, and that is to first remove Java 7, an then install Java 6 instead.
#557 [07:19] <Avata1> ill go try that wait for sec please
#558 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> YOu can obtain Java 6 from http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#559 [07:27] <Calinou> anyway: lolclassic
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#562 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> Would it be out of sorts for Classic players to be encouraged to get Premium due to the updated Java 7 not being compatible with Classic any more?
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#568 [07:43] <jrb> Anyone have questions?
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#571 [08:00] <Calinou> "Are you good at Minecraft troubleshooting? You should sign up to be a forum mod, or frequent the IRC help channel!"
#572 [08:00] <Calinou> Marc_IRL spotted.
#573 [08:00] <Calinou> 8)
#574 [08:01] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, classic should be just removed, anyway there will be a demo mode in 1.3
#575 [08:03] <DiskDaemon> Grr, that's why we're getting "Anyone have questions?" folks tromping through here
#576 [08:03] <Calinou> haha :P
#577 [08:03] * Calinou slaps Marc_IRL around a bit using a large shotgun
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#589 [08:53] <Ronrx> hello
#590 [08:53] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#591 [08:54] <NinjaKirby> Greetings and welcome to #MinecraftHelp Ronrx, if you are experiencing any technical difficulties with your Minecraft client, please don't hesitate to address the matter.
#592 [08:54] <NinjaKirby> Or he left.
#593 [08:55] <Necrodoom> lol
#594 [08:55] <NinjaKirby> God domnit
#595 [08:55] <DiskDaemon> I had "??> Ronrx ask" all prepped and ready to use should it have been needed too
#596 [08:55] <NinjaKirby> :P Next it'll be a keyboard macro
#597 [08:55] <Deathspawn> block update lag in single player.... what would that be caused by?
#598 [08:56] <Morrolan> Using a calculator's CPU I'd say. ;)
#599 [08:56] <Deathspawn> heh.
#600 [08:56] <DiskDaemon> Can you cause the update lag to occur on demand?
#601 [08:56] <Deathspawn> im using the snapshot jeb just tweeted
#602 [08:57] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, single player is no longer single player on the snapshots
#603 [08:57] <DiskDaemon> Single player now plays on its own server, just like multiplayer now.
#604 [08:58] <DiskDaemon> Mojang are trying to combine the double code-base they have had for single and multi player, in to just the one set of code that does everything.
#605 [08:58] <DiskDaemon> Deathspawn: That's why you're seeing the single player chunk lag - because your single player is now playing according to (or trying to) multiplayer rules
#606 [08:59] <Deathspawn> heh... my ping to localhost sucks then
#607 [08:59] <DiskDaemon> localhost really should be used anymore these days. It should be 127.0.0.1 or the IPv6 version of that.
#608 [09:00] <DiskDaemon> Err, make that "shouldn't be used" for localhost
#609 [09:04] <DiskDaemon> There was a reason why localhost shouldn't be used, that I saw in relation to phpmysqla t some stage, but the details elude me. IIRC it had to do with "localhost" being easily clobbered by the hosts file, whereas IP addresses are more stable in that manner
#610 [09:06] <Deathspawn> i wasn't being literal...
#611 [09:08] <DiskDaemon> I sometimes still refer to it too as localhost. It's quite the habit that's difficult to break out of. That's the defintion of a habit, I guess.
#612 [09:10] <NinjaKirby> Wow seriously? The Single player launches a Server in the background? Isn't that now twice the RAM consumption? Since you are providing the world, then the client is joining the world.
#613 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> I agree that the 2.5 single player uses less resources. The problem that Mojang face is that it's costing them too much time and trouble maintaining two separate code-bases, so they're trying to fix that.
#614 [09:12] <DiskDaemon> This is also why they're snapshots, because they need to improve on them before releasing 1.3 to the public.
#615 [09:12] <Deathspawn> thanks for the tip i guess, but the rare times i use it, i don't think it affects anything... its what it stands for that is more understandable. they need to just let bukkit do the servers and manage the client...
#616 [09:12] <NinjaKirby> Heh, aye fair enough, it's the same thing that's plagued Ultima Online for years, always trying to launch a new client and veterans don't fancy migrating.
#617 [09:12] <DiskDaemon> Can you imagine the cries of shock and horror should people update from 1.2.5 to 1.3 as it currently stands int he snapshot?
#618 [09:13] <Deathspawn> er, let bukkit do servers, and mojang does the client*
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#620 [09:20] <Callum_White1997> Hello
#621 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> hi there
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#630 [09:59] <DeejeyCris> Hello
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#632 [09:59] <DeejeyCris> i have a problem with worldguard
#633 [09:59] <DeejeyCris> when I try to define a region,
#634 [09:59] <DeejeyCris> the server say "you don't have permission"
#635 [09:59] <DeejeyCris> im op
#636 [10:00] <DeejeyCris> and sorry for my bad english <:
#637 [10:00] <Boreeas> DeejeyCris: Try #bukkit or the plugin's irc channel
#638 [10:00] <DeejeyCris> thanks, i try
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#641 [10:06] <Boreeas> Segfault
#642 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: D:
#643 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> whyyyyyy
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#646 [10:12] <Guest> Hi all !
#647 [10:12] <Guest> I have just downloaded and bought minecraft
#648 [10:12] <DiskDaemon> well done
#649 [10:12] <Guest> to upgrade to premium account and play it under the latest ubuntu release
#650 [10:13] <Guest> to play offline
#651 [10:13] <Guest> but it says "not downloaded
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#653 [10:13] <Guest> (i'm connected on the internet through a proxy)
#654 [10:13] <DiskDaemon> Does it say anything else as well?
#655 [10:14] <Guest> it asks for login and declare cannot connect to minecraft.net
#656 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's check a few things. What do you see when you follow this link? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#657 [10:15] <Guest> bad login
#658 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> good - can you ge to your profile page on minecraft.net?
#659 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> s/ge/get
#660 [10:16] <Guest> for sure
#661 [10:16] <Guest> wait a second
#662 [10:17] <Guest> done
#663 [10:18] <DiskDaemon> Okay, thanks for checking those things. I'm seeing if I can find anything to help you with the issue
#664 [10:18] <Guest> thanks
#665 [10:19] <DiskDaemon> I see in some cases that reinstalling Java fixes that particular problem on ubuntu systems
#666 [10:19] <Guest> not that i live at high school student home and the proxy is quite annoying
#667 [10:19] <Guest> *note
#668 [10:20] <DiskDaemon> For example: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=261578
#669 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> If you are on a school proxy, they are commonly known to block many non-school things including Minecraft from being able to be downloaded. I don't want to assume that though if it's not the case.
#670 [10:22] <Guest> damn ! I must go to the nearest mcdo and get the wifi =)
#671 [10:23] <Guest> once I will be connected, will I be able to download a full standalone version to play offline ?
#672 [10:23] <Callum_White1997> guys, I run a 24/7 Creative Server
#673 [10:23] <Callum_White1997> mc.sonic-byte.com
#674 [10:23] <Callum_White1997> :D
#675 [10:24] <DiskDaemon> Which school do you go to in Orleans?
#676 [10:24] <Guest> vaucanson high school, located in TOURS (FR)
#677 [10:24] <Guest> I'm in second year prep' school
#678 [10:25] <DiskDaemon> Your best bet is to contact the IT department over there. They'll be able to confirm whether they are blocking minecraft downloads or not
#679 [10:25] <Callum_White1997> Most schools don't allow games in learning hours
#680 [10:26] <Guest> Oh no, I would get my ass kicked by the head !
#681 [10:26] <ernierock> maybe good to ask, is it leaning hour atm?
#682 [10:26] <DiskDaemon> Ahh - good luck with things then.
#683 [10:26] <Guest> so, i'd prefer going to mac donald's
#684 [10:26] <ernierock> well
#685 [10:26] <DiskDaemon> It's around midday, isn't it?
#686 [10:26] <ernierock> hidemyass.com if u wanna take a lil risk
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#688 [10:26] <ernierock> go in private browsing > hidemyass.com > minecraft.net > download
#689 [10:27] <ernierock> note
#690 [10:27] <Guest> no, in france it's 4.30pm
#691 [10:27] <ernierock> if they have a router and log everything
#692 [10:27] <Callum_White1997> Some schools don't even allow downloadinkg
#693 [10:27] <ernierock> they will be able to see you have gone to hidemyass.com
#694 [10:27] <Callum_White1997> Most block it via group policys from windows server
#695 [10:27] <ernierock> well
#696 [10:27] <Guest> and we get a dansguardian filtering system
#697 [10:27] <ernierock> my school security is pretty crappy
#698 [10:27] <ernierock> :p
#699 [10:27] <Callum_White1997> :O
#700 [10:27] <Callum_White1997> lol
#701 [10:27] <ernierock> do u sleep at school? or are you supposed to learn now
#702 [10:28] <Guest> in fact my competition exams have ended one month ago
#703 [10:28] <ernierock> bec if ur not supposed to learn, you could as well ask the IT responsible.
#704 [10:28] <ernierock> then y r u at school O.o?
#705 [10:29] <Guest> no because the filtering policy is highly restricted
#706 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> *twitch* - not the textspeak - no!
#707 [10:29] <ernierock> well then i think ur basically doomed :(
#708 [10:29] <Guest> for now, we have to be present for the oral exam preparation even if we've failed
#709 [10:30] <ernierock> i c
#710 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> This page has a very good explanation of why textspeech is a bad idea where you people from all over the world http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/
#711 [10:30] <ernierock> i ntg tho
#712 [10:30] <ernierock> brb
#713 [10:30] <Guest> so, I get up every morning and goes to school
#714 [10:30] <ernierock> well im using abbreviations bec my fathr may not hear im typing :p
#715 [10:31] <ernierock> so i have to type real slow
#716 [10:31] <DiskDaemon> ernierock: Yes, it really does help with you type in English.
#717 [10:31] <Callum_White1997> lol
#718 [10:32] <ernierock> DiskDaemon: are you from the mojang team?
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#720 [10:33] <Guest> I agree, I speak and write english teached at school, so i cannot read abreviated words
#721 [10:33] <ernierock> just the way you use punctuation and everything :)
#722 [10:33] <ernierock> ok I will talk in full then
#723 [10:33] <Jare1212> Can someone help me please?
#724 [10:33] <DiskDaemon> ernierock: Not precisely, though I do spend a lot of time here helping people, like many others here
#725 [10:33] <Guest> thanks ernierock
#726 [10:33] <ernierock> aha, that is my plan to now
#727 [10:34] <ernierock> I dont speak english here to as the link DiskDaemon gave guessed, im Dutch
#728 [10:34] <ernierock> has*
#729 [10:34] <ernierock> i just play too much minecraft xd
#730 [10:34] <Jare1212> Well, I will boot up minecraft and it works then I open multiplayer and try to join a server and it just sits there at logging in. Then it freezes .
#731 [10:34] <Jare1212> ^.^
#732 [10:35] <ernierock> i heard about that issue.
#733 [10:35] <DiskDaemon> ernierock: There you go - want to give him a hand?
#734 [10:35] <Guest> by all, thanks a lot
#735 [10:35] <Jare1212> Please help.
#736 [10:36] <ernierock> Well I read that happens when minecraft servers are instable.
#737 [10:36] <ernierock> but I don't think they are
#738 [10:36] <Jare1212> Its all minecraft servers. Not just one.
#739 [10:36] <ernierock> what is the exact error you get?
#740 [10:36] <Jare1212> It just sits at logging in. Then freezes,
#741 [10:37] <ernierock> no error?
#742 [10:37] <Jare1212> Nope.
#743 [10:37] <ernierock> :/
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#745 [10:37] <ernierock> When did you buy minecraft? It worked before?
#746 [10:38] <Jare1212> Yes, I wiped out my computer a few days ago. It worked before. I bought jit last year I think.
#747 [10:38] <ernierock> hmmm
#748 [10:39] * DiskDaemon sleeps
#748 [10:39] <ernierock> Try deleting your minecraft.jar
#749 [10:39] <ernierock> and then force updating
#750 [10:39] <Jare1212> Ok.
#751 [10:39] <ernierock> well acutally, just one of the 2 xD
#752 [10:39] <ernierock> doesnt matter, I recommend deleting tho
#753 [10:39] <ernierock> to be sure
#754 [10:40] <Jare1212> Lemme go see .
#755 [10:40] <ernierock> do you know how to find your minecraft.jar?
#756 [10:40] <Jare1212> Yes.
#757 [10:40] <ernierock> K
#758 [10:42] <Jare1212> I deleted it and then force updated and it just sits at Downloading packages...
#759 [10:42] <Jare1212> ^.^
#760 [10:42] <ernierock> k
#761 [10:42] <ernierock> just keep updating till minecraft works.
#762 [10:42] <ernierock> I have that too.
#763 [10:43] <Jare1212> It won't work.
#764 [10:43] <ernierock> Kepe trying.
#765 [10:43] <ernierock> Keep*
#766 [10:43] <Jare1212> It wont.
#767 [10:43] <Jare1212> Work.
#768 [10:43] <ernierock> what does it say?
#769 [10:44] <Jare1212> It just sits here at Downloading Packages
#770 [10:44] <ernierock> Close minecraft, click force update try again.
#771 [10:44] <ernierock> I have that too sometimes.
#772 [10:44] <Jare1212> I DID MILLIONS OF TIME.
#773 [10:45] <ernierock> well sometimes I need to do it three times
#774 [10:45] <ernierock> You can try to backup your saves and texture packs
#775 [10:45] <ernierock> and delete the whole .minecraft folder
#776 [10:45] <ernierock> and redownload it from minecraft.net
#777 [10:45] <Jare1212> Ok.
#778 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> ??> virus
#779 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> ??> ernierock virus
#780 [10:46] <VoxelHead> ernierock: (virus) There is a false-positive in some virus scanners with one of Minecraft's libraries.
#781 [10:46] <VoxelHead> ernierock: (virus) For more information, see http://getsatisfaction.com/mojang/topics/virus_detected_false_positive_lwjgl_dll
#782 [10:46] <ernierock> ?
#783 [10:46] <ernierock> what?
#784 [10:46] <Jare1212> I just wiped out my computer. There are no virus.
#785 [10:47] <ernierock> Just redownload it
#786 [10:47] <DiskDaemon> Jare1212: Which antivirus are you using, AVG?
#787 [10:47] <Jare1212> No, BitDefender.
#788 [10:47] <ernierock> and yes, my computer is full of virusses atm and im using AVG
#789 [10:47] <ernierock> I really need to clean it up :x
#790 [10:47] <ernierock> But I am too lazy.
#791 [10:48] <DiskDaemon> Jare1212: Temporarily disable BitDefender and the download should then progress as per normal.
#792 [10:49] <Jare1212> Sorry, But I dunno how. ^.^
#793 [10:49] <DiskDaemon> Jare1212: You're not the only one having this trouble with BitDefender and Minecraft. http://forum.bitdefender.com/lofiversion/index.php/t33933.html
#794 [10:50] <Jare1212> But why is it just sitting at Downloading Packages..
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#796 [10:50] <Jare1212> I don't think it has anything with bBitDefender.
#797 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> chasd
#798 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> Hey guys.
#799 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> I need help.
#800 [10:51] <lutzee> hey
#801 [10:51] <lutzee> ask away
#802 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> ummm
#803 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> when i start minecraft_jar
#804 [10:51] <DiskDaemon> Jare1212: It just sits there because it's waiting for a file to arrive, but the antivirus has stopped its transfer. It thinks due to a false positive that it shouldn't be allowed
#805 [10:51] <ernierock> wait
#806 [10:51] <ernierock> stop
#807 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> i try to go in my server
#808 [10:51] <ernierock> you run linux/mac or windows?
#809 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> but it says downloading terrain
#810 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> but then it times me out
#811 [10:51] <mib_ckpjn9> windows
#812 [10:51] <ernierock> Then I think its smarter to use the .exe
#813 [10:52] <Jare1212> but it should pop up if I want it to come through or not.
#814 [10:52] <mib_ckpjn9> but i need the furniture mod :(
#815 [10:52] <ernierock> Jare
#816 [10:52] <ernierock> just try it
#817 [10:52] <mib_ckpjn9> how do i put mods into my .exe?
#818 [10:52] <DiskDaemon> Nothing else causes that downloading issue that you are experiencing.
#819 [10:52] <ernierock> u can modify the jar and use the exe to run minecraft
#820 [10:52] <Jare1212> How do I stop it though,.
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#822 [10:52] <ernierock> rightlclick the tray icon > disable
#823 [10:52] <ernierock> should be something like that
#824 [10:52] <Jare1212> Try?
#825 [10:52] <Jare1212> Tray./
#826 [10:53] <mib_ckpjn9> tray icon?
#827 [10:53] <mib_ckpjn9> o_o
#828 [10:53] <ernierock> no you mib
#829 [10:53] <ernierock> :p
#830 [10:53] <ernierock> not*
#831 [10:53] <mib_ckpjn9> ah
#832 [10:53] <ernierock> mib if you modified the jar
#833 [10:53] <ernierock> you can still use the .exe
#834 [10:53] <DiskDaemon> Jare1212: You can either make an exception for the lwjgl.dll file, or temporarily disable it and let the download occur
#835 [10:53] <ernierock> and it will have your mod
#836 [10:53] <Jare1212> How do I disable ittt?
#837 [10:53] <McLukz> I bought minecraft gift code about 2 months ago, and after a week my premium status dissapeared... What should I do?
#838 [10:54] <ernierock> Contact mojang staff.
#839 [10:54] <mib_ckpjn9> it still wont work
#840 [10:54] <DiskDaemon> Jare1212: http://forum.bitdefender.com/index.php?showtopic=31531
#841 [10:54] <ernierock> Hmm
#842 [10:54] <mib_ckpjn9> i try to get the refrigerator
#843 [10:54] <DiskDaemon> McLukz: Where did you purchase it from?
#844 [10:54] <mib_ckpjn9> but it says there is no item id with 1260
#845 [10:54] <mib_ckpjn9> :/
#846 [10:54] <ernierock> Did u delete the foler META-INF when modifying the jar
#847 [10:54] <ernierock> ?
#848 [10:54] <mib_ckpjn9> uhh
#849 [10:54] <ernierock> Oh darn I need to go
#850 [10:54] <mib_ckpjn9> yes
#851 [10:54] <ernierock> cya later.
#852 [10:54] * DiskDaemon has to sleep in 5 minutes
#852 [10:55] <DiskDaemon> McLukz: Are you there?
#853 [10:56] <Jare1212> Should I just turn off the firewall?
#854 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> Jare1212: The firewall doesn't cause the issue that you hve
#855 [10:56] <Jare1212> The Antiviruse?
#856 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#857 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> McLukz: If you didn't purchase your minecraft account from minecraft.net - it's strongly likely that someone else purchased it for you using a stolen credit card. That's why you had your premium status, and when the credit card was found to be stolen, the payment was revoked and your account is no longer premium.
#858 [10:58] <Jare1212> DiskDaemon: Still the same thing ^.^
#859 [10:59] <DiskDaemon> I see no other information out that there might indicate any other way to resolve your issue
#860 [10:59] <Jare1212> =(
#861 [10:59] <DiskDaemon> Sorry I can't help any further on that with you.
#862 [11:00] <Jare1212> If I took someone else .minecraft folder would it work?
#863 [11:00] <DiskDaemon> That would be illegal. I cannot agree with doing that.
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#865 [11:00] <Jare1212> It is?
#866 [11:00] * DiskDaemon sleeps
#866 [11:00] <Jare1212> Never knew that.
#867 [11:00] <lyos> quick clarifaction on the wiki's description on spawning caps
#868 [11:00] <lyos> is the cap is an absolute maximum in SMP or a local maximum?
#869 [11:00] <lyos> For example, in a 100 person server say the cap is 25; does this mean that no hostile mobs will spawn if there are 25 mobs within 128 blocks of all players cumulatively?
#870 [11:02] <lyos> not the right place for this?
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#872 [11:03] <Necrodoom> it is, just no one is on to help
#873 [11:03] <DiskDaemon> Oh hang on, a proxy
#874 [11:03] <DiskDaemon> oh, he's gone.
#875 [11:03] * DiskDaemon sleeps
#875 [11:04] <NinjaKirby> I fukn love Coconuts
#876 [11:05] <mib_ckpjn9> hey guys
#877 [11:05] <mib_ckpjn9> i really need help
#878 [11:06] <mib_ckpjn9> anyone wanna help me?
#879 [11:06] <mib_ckpjn9> :/
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#881 [11:06] <mib_ckpjn9> Guys?
#882 [11:06] <mib_ckpjn9> Would anyone like to help me?
#883 [11:07] <Necrodoom> ask
#884 [11:07] <mib_ckpjn9> umm
#885 [11:07] <mib_ckpjn9> When I get into my server
#886 [11:07] <mib_ckpjn9> and i have the furniture mod in it.
#887 [11:07] <mib_ckpjn9> when i craft an item
#888 [11:07] <mib_ckpjn9> and i try to get in into my inventory
#889 [11:07] <mib_ckpjn9> it says
#890 [11:07] <mib_ckpjn9> "End of stream"
#891 [11:08] <mib_ckpjn9> And i followed the directions from this website http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1114866-125sspsmp-mrcrayfishs-furniture-mod-fridges-couches-chair-tables-blinds-you-name-it/
#892 [11:08] <mib_ckpjn9> err
#893 [11:08] <lutzee> ask in #risucraft for modding help
#894 [11:08] <mib_ckpjn9> when i try to craft an item from that mod
#895 [11:08] <mib_ckpjn9> okay
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#900 [11:19] <lyos> anyone with knowledge on spawning mechanics on?
#901 [11:19] <Calinou> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Spawn
#902 [11:19] <Calinou> "we have a wiki, use it" ~Calinou
#903 [11:20] <lyos> i asked a question to clear up some of the wiki's ambiguity
#904 [11:20] <lyos> "is the cap is an absolute maximum in SMP or a local maximum?"
#905 [11:21] <lyos> [i use the wiki extensively :) ]
#906 [11:23] <lyos> anyone knowledgable enough to help?
#907 [11:24] <Boreeas> iirc it's an absolute maximum
#908 [11:24] <NinjaKirby> If the cap is an absolute maximum. Is the cap [-is] an absolute maximum.
#909 [11:24] <NinjaKirby> But the cap isn't even going as far as the absolute an maximum to do when it is under minimum.
#910 [11:25] <NinjaKirby> Although when the over minimum is happening where an maximum is under overing.
#911 [11:25] <NinjaKirby> Right?
#912 [11:26] <Callum_White1997> ohai
#913 [11:27] <Callum_White1997> anyone know how I can build my community? with more players mainly?
#914 [11:27] <lyos> so if the cap is say 75, person 1 is at coords (5000,5000) (x,z), person 2 is at coords (-5000,-5000), and both have mob spawner that has accumulated 100 mobs each, would person 3 on the surface at night at coords (5000,-5000) see no hostile mob spawns?
#915 [11:27] <Calinou> Callum_White1997, use Player Blocks, they are crafted from 9 advertising sheets
#916 [11:27] <Callum_White1997> lol wut
#917 [11:28] <Calinou> lyos, depends of players and dimensions: the mob caps are per-player and per-dimension in SMP, and per-type (hostile/passive/NPC, ender dragon does not respawn no matter what)
#918 [11:28] <Necrodoom> Calinou: lol
#919 [11:29] <Calinou> if a lot of players are in a lit up area (say, a spawn with a lot of torches/glowstone/lava), and there is 1 player in the wild at night, the 1 player will get a lot of mob spawns, because the other players are "dumping" "their" potential mob spawns
#920 [11:29] <Calinou> Callum_White1997, if you want players, do some kind of *particular* server with occasional events; we're tired of the average survival server
#921 [11:29] <lyos> im interested in the inverse
#922 [11:30] <Callum_White1997> I run Creative, hunger games, survival and pvp
#923 [11:30] <lyos> lots of mobs around individuals effecting the odds of others
#924 [11:30] <Calinou> try not to advertise in inappropriate places, it makes you look like a noob
#925 [11:30] <Callum_White1997> lol
#926 [11:30] <lyos> so cap 75 per player, p1 has 100 w/i 128 blocks, p2 has 100 w/i 128 blocks, and p3 is on the surface at night
#927 [11:31] <lyos> they are not w/i 128 blocks of each other
#928 [11:31] <Calinou> lyos, try using MCP to decompile minecraft source code and see ;)
#929 [11:31] <lyos> assume we're talking all hostile
#930 [11:31] <Calinou> mob spawning is obscure, especially in newer releases
#931 [11:31] <Calinou> the game mechanics are getting more obscure with every new version :c
#932 [11:32] <lyos> im just trying to figure out why slimes are so friggin rare on large servers
#933 [11:32] <lyos> one explanation was everyone has lots of spawners spawning lots of mobs
#934 [11:32] <lyos> and i was wondering if getting far from the population would fix the problem
#935 [11:33] <lyos> or is the server just maxed over the entire world
#936 [11:33] <lyos> that make sense?
#937 [11:34] <Calinou> slimes only spawn in layers 0-40, any light level, in special chunks; these cannot be found in SMP using a tool as of 1.2
#938 [11:34] * Calinou thanks jeb_ and Dinnerbone sarcastically
#938 [11:36] <lyos> i understand the requirements for slimes and have been looking in the right places
#939 [11:37] <lyos> i've even strip mined at lvl 20 completely lit for 10x10 chunks with no luck
#940 [11:38] <Calinou> maybe you were unlucky :P mobs cannot spawn right next to you
#941 [11:39] <lyos> not within 25 blocks, so i gotta chill at around 30-40 blocks away for a while ;)
#942 [11:39] <lyos> its weird
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#944 [11:40] <lyos> thought it might be an interesting topic of discussion
#945 [11:40] <lyos> and would like to avoid doing another 10x10 chunk stip again in a remote region
#946 [11:40] <lyos> my wife might get suspicious ;)
#947 [11:40] <Calinou> lol
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#951 [11:59] <ccswan> i need help with uploading a texture pack
#952 [12:00] <lutzee> choose a file host like mediafire, upload there copy the download link into your texture pack thread
#953 [12:00] <ccswan> how
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#955 [12:00] <lutzee> try going to mediafire and look..
#956 [12:00] <ccswan> k
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#961 [12:39] <viveleroi> the latest snapshot has a bouncing text saying "see you next friday or so" - what does that mean? just the next snapshot?
#962 [12:40] <Calinou> has nothing to do with the snapshot relase date
#963 [12:40] <Calinou> http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Splash < you can Ctrl+F to find specific splash explanations
#964 [12:41] <viveleroi> ah
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#967 [12:41] <viveleroi> our server is doing a reset with 1.3 - it feels so close yet not
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#969 [12:47] <masinka19> proc se mi hra seka
#970 [12:50] <viveleroi> what's the reasoning behind items like doors, signs, etc not stacking
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#972 [12:51] <Necrodoom> viveleroi: because mojang wanted it like that, theres no good answer for this
#973 [12:53] <Ryan_> If your interested in stacking them though there is a stackable mod made by Risugami (think thats how its spelt) not sure how updates would work with stacked items though
#974 [12:53] <viveleroi> ya, thanks
#975 [12:53] <viveleroi> it just seems silly for doors/signs and the like - for potions it makes sense
#976 [12:56] <Calinou> no sense for potions, they suck already
#977 [12:58] <viveleroi> well but you can throw them more effectively if they're stacked
#978 [12:58] <viveleroi> splash potions
#979 [13:00] <NinjaKirby> Potions suck? Are you giraffing?
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#981 [13:11] <Calinou> NinjaKirby, ?
#982 [13:18] <NinjaKirby> Nay mind, my experience with potions is quite valuable, so I was a little confused by your statement.
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#984 [13:19] <Calinou> hate potions
#985 [13:19] <illegalParadox> ahoy?
#986 [13:19] <illegalParadox> I'm looking for technical support
#987 [13:20] <NinjaKirby> The only time I've really used them is in my adventure map, and the Health/Regeneration/Strength potions are a god send.
#988 [13:20] <NinjaKirby> Maybe I just so happened to have designed an environment they are effective in.
#989 [13:20] * NinjaKirby shrugs
#989 [13:22] <NinjaKirby> What's up Paradox?
#990 [13:23] <illegalParadox> Good sirs, may I inquire where to find good gentlemen with fine technical knowledge who might be able to aid me in my current issues?
#991 [13:26] <illegalParadox> I've downloaded the week 24 snapshot and made a new world (creative, cheats on, buildings on, large biomes). At first it was neat. But now it kind of refuses to load the world
#992 [13:27] <illegalParadox> like, there is no terrain. at all. I'm floating in the nothing or falling into the endless void
#993 [13:27] <illegalParadox> I've made another world with the same settings. Same result
#994 [13:27] <illegalParadox> even if it does load the terrain, only a portion of it. I can literally fly around that chunk of earth
#995 [13:28] <xales> illegalParadox: Are you able to create a new world and play it?
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#997 [13:29] <illegalParadox> I tried, made athird one, same
#998 [13:29] <illegalParadox> I wonder if its something in the settings that borks the world
#999 [13:29] <illegalParadox> hm, I'll try it again without large biomes this time
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#1001 [13:30] <PTASAS> hello
#1002 [13:30] <PTASAS> i just bought a vannilla gift card and im not able to purchase minecraft with it
#1003 [13:32] <xales> PTASAS: Gift card?
#1004 [13:33] <Grim_Reaper> xales \ooooo/
#1005 [13:33] <Grim_Reaper> spider hug ^
#1006 [13:33] <xales> Grim_Reaper: lol
#1007 [13:33] <PTASAS> its one of those credit card gidt cards
#1008 [13:33] <PTASAS> for visa
#1009 [13:33] <xales> PTASAS: Gift cards are restricted in their ability to make international purchases, or in other words, you can't make an international purchase with a gift card
#1010 [13:33] <PTASAS> so i cant buy minecraft?
#1011 [13:33] <xales> Purchasing Minecraft would be an international purchase, and as such, it's not possible to use a gift card to buy it
#1012 [13:34] <xales> You could try calling the issuing bank and getting the limit removed...but, good luck with that.
#1013 [13:34] <xales> You could try calling the issuing bank and getting the limit removed...but, good luck with that.
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#1015 [13:34] <xales> Grim_Reaper: I wish people could read :(
#1016 [13:35] <xales> OH
#1017 [13:35] <xales> Did I tell you? ;_;
#1018 [13:35] <illegalParadox> same. doesn't load terrain at all OR only a portion of it, like the grat Notch sliced it up with a huge knife
#1019 [13:35] <xales> illegalParadox: I'd say try completely reinstalling the latest prerelease, but beyond that, you're probably SOL
#1020 [13:36] <xales> They can't be expected to work well, if at all, or they wouldn't /be/ prereleases.
#1021 [13:36] <illegalParadox> SOL? what does that stand for?
#1022 [13:36] <xales> "S*** outta luck"
#1023 [13:36] <illegalParadox> oh cool
#1024 [13:36] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#1025 [13:36] <illegalParadox> bleh I'll just wait till 1.3 comes out then > _>
#1026 [13:37] <illegalParadox> dang just when I finnaly was about to build my city
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#1028 [13:43] <illegalParadox> thanks for tips anyway, ciao peeps
#1029 [13:43] <tips48> damn it
#1030 [13:44] <tips48> If I idle here I really should take tips of my ping list
#1031 [13:44] <tips48> :/
#1032 [13:44] <nekronuke> bahaha
#1033 [13:47] <tips48> That's going to be annoying in the least
#1034 [13:50] <NinjaKirby> Hey Nekronuke, I have a few tips for your map. I happen to have 48 in the list, so I dubbed it tips48; will send it right over to ya.
#1035 [13:50] <tips48> :(
#1036 [13:50] <NinjaKirby> :P I jus' messin'
#1037 [13:50] <tips48> I got pinged like 10 times there
#1038 [13:50] <tips48> lol
#1039 [13:50] <NinjaKirby> Good lawdie
#1040 [13:50] <tips48> Why I have 48 on my ping list, I really don't know
#1041 [13:51] <nekronuke> wat
#1042 [13:51] <tips48> Just don't find out why projects I work on
#1043 [13:51] <tips48> I get pinged for every one :D
#1044 [13:51] <tips48> And as you can see I'm in a good amount of channels, so...
#1045 [13:52] * tips48 sighs
#1045 [13:52] <NinjaKirby> ^^;;
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#1047 [13:53] <alanb125> hey my minecraft when it loads shuts my computer off anyone know wat to do?????????
#1048 [13:53] <tips48> lol @ him getting muted for typing to fast
#1049 [13:53] <tips48> anyway
#1050 [13:53] * tips48 pats VoxelHead on the head
#1050 [13:54] <tips48> It shuts your computer off
#1051 [13:54] <alanb125> yes
#1052 [13:54] <tips48> Windows or Linux?
#1053 [13:54] <alanb125> windows
#1054 [13:54] <tips48> Have you booted into safe mode and ran a full virus scan?
#1055 [13:54] <tips48> This doesn't sound like a minecraft issue, more like a virus
#1056 [13:54] <alanb125> yes
#1057 [13:54] <NinjaKirby> inb4 System Temperature is off the scale
#1058 [13:54] <tips48> ^Or that
#1059 [13:55] <tips48> Minecraft itself should not crash your computer
#1060 [13:55] <tips48> Is there any type of blue screen before the computer shuts off or does it go from the client to off immediatley?
#1061 [13:55] <alanb125> well it does like im only using 1% of my cp right now
#1062 [13:55] <tips48> hmm
#1063 [13:55] <tips48> No blue screen, just straight to black?
#1064 [13:55] <alanb125> yeah no blue screen
#1065 [13:56] <tips48> Let's see
#1066 [13:56] <tips48> Can you open cmd.exe and paste java -version into pastie.org, then link us to it?
#1067 [13:56] <tips48> type java -version*(
#1068 [13:56] <tips48> Err
#1069 [13:56] <tips48> java -version
#1070 [13:56] <tips48> jesus
#1071 [13:56] <alanb125> wait wat?
#1072 [13:56] <tips48> Windows 7?
#1073 [13:57] <alanb125> windows xp
#1074 [13:57] <tips48> k
#1075 [13:57] <tips48> Open cmd.exe
#1076 [13:57] <tips48> Just enter it in "Search Programs or Files"
#1077 [13:57] <tips48> then type java -version
#1078 [13:57] <tips48> This will output some text
#1079 [13:57] <tips48> Goto pastie.org, and paste that text, then hit paste
#1080 [13:58] <tips48> Copy the link in your browser and paste it here
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#1082 [14:04] <alanb125> java verison "1.701-05"enter java (tm) se runtime enviorment (build 1.7.0_05-b05)
#1083 [14:04] <Guest> how do you post minecraft maps
#1084 [14:05] <tips48> Guest: Zip them and upload them to your favorite file uploader
#1085 [14:06] <tips48> alanb125: Weird...
#1086 [14:06] <tips48> \
#1087 [14:06] <alanb125> java hotspot (tm) coi ent vm) build 23.1-b03, mixed mode,sharing(
#1088 [14:06] <Guest> what is a file uploader
#1089 [14:07] <tips48> Some examples are dropbox.com, drive.google.com, mediashare.com
#1090 [14:07] <Guest> how do you use file uploaders
#1091 [14:07] <alanb125> c:\winndows\system32>
#1092 [14:07] <alanb125> thats everything
#1093 [14:09] <Guest> how do you put a minecraft map on the forums
#1094 [14:09] <alanb125> tips any ideas??
#1095 [14:09] <tips48> alanb125, No clue
#1096 [14:10] <tips48> Guest: Pick one of those, I recommend the first two as I use them personally
#1097 [14:10] <tips48> And google how to use them
#1098 [14:10] <Guest> yes but how do you get them on the forums
#1099 [14:11] <tips48> It will give you a public link and you'll paste that
#1100 [14:11] <tips48> As I said earlier, google how to use either of those
#1101 [14:11] <Guest> on what
#1102 [14:11] <tips48> You'll paste that on the post on the forums
#1103 [14:12] <Guest> how do you get to the post
#1104 [14:13] <tips48> Have you ever used the forums?
#1105 [14:13] <Guest> no
#1106 [14:13] <Guest> not really
#1107 [14:14] <Guest> other than downloading maps
#1108 [14:15] <tips48> You'll go to here
#1109 [14:15] <tips48> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/53-maps/
#1110 [14:15] <tips48> and hit create new topic on the top right
#1111 [14:16] <Guest> it says I can't create a new topic
#1112 [14:17] <tips48> You have to create a user
#1113 [14:17] <tips48> profile*
#1114 [14:17] <Guest> how
#1115 [14:17] <tips48> Very very top right, hit create new account
#1116 [14:17] <tips48> Follow the instructions from there
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#1118 [14:18] <Guest> from where
#1119 [14:18] <Guest> oh wait never mind
#1120 [14:19] <ElementCoder_> huh how can i quit
#1121 [14:19] <ElementCoder_> o
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#1123 [14:19] <ElementCoder> hi neen
#1124 [14:19] <neen> sup
#1125 [14:20] <ElementCoder> brb
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#1128 [14:26] <ElementCoder> gtg
#1129 [14:27] <tips48> bai
#1130 [14:27] <Calinou> bye
#1131 [14:27] <Calinou> c-c-c...
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#1139 [14:46] <Shaman27> Hey Minecraft won't work on my computer anymore it opens up and goes to black screen and shuts down. Can anyone help?
#1140 [14:47] <tips48> Minecraft shuts down or your computer shuts down Shaman27?
#1141 [14:47] <Shaman27> ]Minecraft shuts down
#1142 [14:47] <tips48> Hmm
#1143 [14:47] <LilLucy> Got java installed?
#1144 [14:48] <tips48> ^First step
#1145 [14:48] <tips48> Open cmd.exe and type java -version
#1146 [14:48] <tips48> Paste that here please
#1147 [14:48] <Shaman27> ok
#1148 [14:48] <tips48> Second, navigate to the dir where minecraft.exe is and look for an error file
#1149 [14:48] <Calinou> > windows+R then type in "cmd" without quotes to get to command line
#1150 [14:48] <tips48> It would be a text file ending in .log
#1151 [14:48] <Calinou> ("how do i do this" prevention.)
#1152 [14:48] <tips48> Calinou, Smart
#1153 [14:48] <Calinou> tips48, Fiat
#1154 [14:48] <tips48> wat
#1155 [14:49] <tips48> lol
#1156 [14:49] <Calinou> (you said the name of a car brand, I reply. :P)
#1157 [14:49] <tips48> :P
#1158 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> ??cmd
#1159 [14:49] <tips48> ohai Grim_Reaper
#1160 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> AuBot you ugly thing
#1161 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> Hello tips48
#1162 [14:49] <tips48> How's it goin?
#1163 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Fine fine and you?
#1164 [14:50] <Boreeas> Grim_Reaper: I think you are looking for !help
#1165 [14:50] <tips48> Good...Woke up at 1
#1166 [14:50] <tips48> lol
#1167 [14:50] <Boreeas> Aubot uses !
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#1169 [14:50] <tips48> !!cmd
#1170 [14:50] <tips48> !cmd
#1171 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Boreeas which bot uses ??>
#1172 [14:51] <Boreeas> VoxelHead uses ?? and WugBot uses ;
#1173 [14:51] <tips48> :/
#1174 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> yeah
#1175 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Sorry AuBot
#1176 [14:51] <tips48> aSO many bots
#1177 [14:51] <Boreeas> Grim_Reaper: Voxelhead.
#1178 [14:51] <Boreeas> ?? help
#1179 [14:51] <Calinou> ;kick Grim_Reaper
#1180 [14:51] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#1181 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> I meant damn you VoxelHead
#1182 [14:51] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#1183 [14:51] <Grim_Reaper> Calinou wugbot = not here :<
#1184 [14:52] <tips48> Shaman27, Tell me when you've gotten the results or if you need help
#1185 [14:52] <Shaman27> I typed in the cmd for java -version, but it will not open
#1186 [14:52] <tips48> "not open"?
#1187 [14:52] <Calinou> it will not open > explain please?
#1188 [14:52] <tips48> ^
#1189 [14:53] <Shaman27> I type it in and another window opens asking to allow it and i hit yes, then another window opens and closes a second later
#1190 [14:53] <tips48> hmm
#1191 [14:53] <Calinou> ._.
#1192 [14:54] <tips48> Are you windows 32 or 64 bit?
#1193 [14:54] <Boreeas> Shaman27: you just type in "cmd"
#1194 [14:54] <Boreeas> In the black box that appears, that's where you type 'java -version'
#1195 [14:54] <Calinou> "black box"... lol
#1196 [14:54] <Calinou> blame today's computer generation :|
#1197 [14:54] <tips48> lol
#1198 [14:54] <Shaman27> yes and it opens the command line. yes its a black window and i type java -version in there
#1199 [14:55] <tips48> Alright, let's try this a differentw ay
#1200 [14:55] <tips48> way*
#1201 [14:55] <tips48> Windows 32 or 64 bit?
#1202 [14:55] <Shaman27> 64
#1203 [14:55] <tips48> Navigate to C:\Program Files\Java
#1204 [14:55] <tips48> Does that exist?
#1205 [14:56] <Shaman27> yes i found it
#1206 [14:56] <tips48> What folder's are in it?
#1207 [14:56] <Calinou> <english,please>folders, not folder's.</english,please>
#1208 [14:56] <Shaman27> jre6 and jre 7
#1209 [14:56] <tips48> Calinou, Whoops
#1210 [14:56] <Calinou> ...do you hae both jre6 and 7 at the same time? WTF
#1211 [14:56] <tips48> Shaman27, Ahh
#1212 [14:56] <tips48> Calinou, I've got both
#1213 [14:56] <Calinou> have*
#1214 [14:57] <Calinou> well I only have java 6
#1215 [14:57] <tips48> Calinou, I've got JRE 6, JRE 7, JDK 6, JDK 7
#1216 [14:57] <tips48> #DevProblems
#1217 [14:57] <tips48> Anyway...
#1218 [14:57] <Shaman27> so delete 7?
#1219 [14:57] <tips48> Shaman27, GreyVulpine mentioned an issue with Java 7 being installed over Java 6
#1220 [14:57] <tips48> No, delete 6
#1221 [14:57] <Shaman27> ok
#1222 [14:57] <tips48> You'll want to do it from control panel if possible
#1223 [14:57] <Calinou> I have JDK6 :P and JDK also has JRE shipped
#1224 [14:57] <tips48> And then restart
#1225 [14:58] <tips48> Calinou, I know, but sometimes I need to disable JDK...long story
#1226 [14:58] <tips48> I also have JDK 5
#1227 [14:58] <tips48> :p
#1228 [14:58] <Calinou> lol
#1229 [14:58] <tips48> My java install is like 10 gig or something
#1230 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#1231 [14:59] <tips48> Grim_Reaper, vas?
#1232 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> o.o?
#1233 [15:00] <tips48> Why the :|?
#1234 [15:00] <tips48> Btw, portugal sucks. #JustSayin
#1235 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> 10Gigs for java.. is sad
#1236 [15:00] <tips48> ye
#1237 [15:00] <tips48> I do alot of devving
#1238 [15:00] <tips48> :P
#1239 [15:00] <tips48> Hate client mods though
#1240 [15:01] <tips48> MCP :/
#1241 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1242 [15:01] <tips48> I've got like 40 different plugins for bukkit, although most of them are private
#1243 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> :o
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#1245 [15:01] <tips48> :o
#1246 [15:02] <dragnheart> dont know if my computer is 64 bit or 32 bit how do i know?
#1247 [15:02] <tips48> Many ways
#1248 [15:02] <tips48> If C:\Program Files (x86) exists then your 64 bit
#1249 [15:02] <tips48> In windows 7
#1250 [15:02] <tips48> goto Start -> Right click on computer -> properties
#1251 [15:03] <tips48> In the middle under system it says System type: [If your 32 or 64 bit]
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#1253 [15:03] <Calinou> <tips48> Hate client mods though < I like them :P
#1254 [15:03] <Calinou> vanilla MC sucks
#1255 [15:03] <dragnheart> Cal!
#1256 [15:03] <tips48> Calinou, By hate client mods I mean MCP
#1257 [15:04] <tips48> It's so hard to use :(
#1258 [15:04] <tips48> Spoutcraft <3
#1259 [15:04] <Calinou> MCP is fine
#1260 [15:04] <Calinou> spout sucks :P
#1261 [15:04] <tips48> Hell no
#1262 [15:04] <dragnheart> O_O
#1263 [15:04] <tips48> MCP is a hack
#1264 [15:04] <tips48> SpoutCraft is also, but a clean one
#1265 [15:04] <tips48> SpoutClient and SpoutServer are freshly coded
#1266 [15:04] <tips48> More effecient then anything minecraft can be (Until atleast 1.3)
#1267 [15:05] <Calinou> MCP is an hack > because of mojang ;)
#1268 [15:05] <tips48> But not after 1.3
#1269 [15:05] <tips48> MCP dies
#1270 [15:05] <tips48> :D
#1271 [15:05] <dragonheart> whats mcp stand for
#1272 [15:05] <Calinou> why would MCP die
#1273 [15:05] <Calinou> dragonheart, Minecraft Coder Pack
#1274 [15:05] <tips48> Minecraft Coder Pack
#1275 [15:06] <tips48> MCP will die because in 1.3 there will be a mod API
#1276 [15:06] <Calinou> some tool to decompile & deobfuscate minecraft source
#1277 [15:06] <Calinou> tips48, quite unlikely, more likely 1.4
#1278 [15:06] <Calinou> see the wiki's upcoming features page
#1279 [15:06] <tips48> Calinou, Meh
#1280 [15:06] * tips48 sighs
#1280 [15:06] <dragonheart> o
#1281 [15:06] <dragonheart> k
#1282 [15:06] <tips48> More waiting
#1283 [15:06] <Calinou> anyway, mojang's definition of mod API: "let people create hay bales and nothing else"
#1284 [15:06] <tips48> lolol
#1285 [15:06] <tips48> Don't hate
#1286 [15:06] <tips48> I know ES and Dinnerbone and Grum
#1287 [15:06] <tips48> And tahg, but less so
#1288 [15:06] <tips48> lol
#1289 [15:07] <dragonheart> oh tips it dosent say if i'm 32 or 64
#1290 [15:08] <tips48> windows 7?\
#1291 [15:08] <dragonheart> windows xp
#1292 [15:09] <tips48> Ahh
#1293 [15:09] <tips48> Don't remember where it is on xp
#1294 [15:09] <dragonheart> ill google it
#1295 [15:09] <tips48> If you've got more than 4gb RAM then you've likely got 64 bit
#1296 [15:09] <tips48> And yea, goahead
#1297 [15:09] <tips48> go ahead*
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#1299 [15:11] <Calinou> more than 3.2GB > actually :P
#1300 [15:13] <dragonheart> i only have 2
#1301 [15:14] <dragonheart> since this computer is 4 years old
#1302 [15:16] <tips48> Then it's likely 32 bit
#1303 [15:16] <dragonheart> kay ty
#1304 [15:16] <dragonheart> would something bad happen if i downloaded the wrong one?
#1305 [15:18] <tips48> don't think so
#1306 [15:19] <dragonheart> kay
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#1308 [15:21] <dragonheart> Windows x86 which on do i choose?
#1309 [15:21] <Shaman27> I restarted my computer and it still does not work
#1310 [15:21] <dragonheart> Windows x64
#1311 [15:21] <dragonheart> Windows x86 Kernel
#1312 [15:22] <dragonheart> tip?
#1313 [15:22] <tips48> wat
#1314 [15:22] <tips48> Shaman27, Weird
#1315 [15:22] <dragonheart> which one do i use?
#1316 [15:22] <tips48> GreyVulpine can help :P
#1317 [15:22] <tips48> dragonheart, With less than 4GB use x86
#1318 [15:22] <tips48> With more then use x64
#1319 [15:22] <dragonheart> kay ty
#1320 [15:23] <dragonheart> the kernel one?
#1321 [15:23] <dragonheart> or the online/offline one
#1322 [15:23] <Shaman27> I only have the jre7 in the folder, but minecraft still black screens.
#1323 [15:23] <dragonheart> need java 6
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#1325 [15:24] <tips48> dragonheart, Works fine with java 7
#1326 [15:24] <tips48> I run it with 7
#1327 [15:24] <tips48> no issues
#1328 [15:25] <tips48> If you want to get specific then it 'needs' java 5
#1329 [15:25] <dragonheart> oh full version right?
#1330 [15:25] <dragonheart> full version u need the latest java
#1331 [15:25] <dragonheart> whew tired
#1332 [15:26] <dragonheart> almost can play again
#1333 [15:28] <Shaman27> I have a whole bunch of text documents that says what the error is. can i link that somehow?
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#1337 [15:30] <dragonheart> hi i'm back
#1338 [15:30] <dragonheart> umm one last thing
#1339 [15:31] <dragonheart> cal
#1340 [15:31] <dragonheart> how do u use irc
#1341 [15:31] <dragonheart> on a server?
#1342 [15:31] <lutzee> If you mean minecraft, install the IRC mod by TheEnderman
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#1344 [15:32] <dragonheart> forminecraft classic
#1345 [15:32] <dragonheart> for minecraft classic servers
#1346 [15:32] <dragonheart> is it the same?
#1347 [15:32] <lutzee> you can't then
#1348 [15:32] <dragonheart> or different
#1349 [15:32] <dragonheart> really?
#1350 [15:32] <dragonheart> why
#1351 [15:32] <geraldbrent> McZall had it iirc.
#1352 [15:33] <geraldbrent> That was a long time ago.
#1353 [15:33] <dragonheart> iirc?
#1354 [15:33] <geraldbrent> If I Recall Correctly
#1355 [15:33] <dragonheart> now i'm confused
#1356 [15:34] <Shaman27> How can i fix Minecraft from black screening?
#1357 [15:34] <dragonheart> ok im gonna go now bye!
#1358 [15:34] <dragonheart> hey do u think i can use wom now?
#1359 [15:35] <lutzee> Shaman27, have you tried force updating?
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#1361 [15:35] <Shaman27> Yes it get half way through and black screens and shuts down
#1362 [15:35] <TRinlge> hi
#1363 [15:36] <TRinlge> I was wondering where to get the minecraft 1.8+ version with dungeons and villages :O... All I have is the 1.2.5 version from the official site that was released 2 months ago... am I missing something?
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#1365 [15:36] <Calinou> TRinlge, "1.8" means "Beta 1.8"
#1366 [15:36] <Calinou> ;)
#1367 [15:36] <NoelHitman> can anybody helb me?
#1368 [15:36] <NoelHitman> i have a big trouble with minecraft
#1369 [15:37] <Calinou> there are dungeons and villages in 1.2.5
#1370 [15:37] <Calinou> NoelHitman, yes? don't ask to ask, and state as much relevant info as possible
#1371 [15:37] <Shaman27> I have a bunch of text documents saying the error, it says A fatal error has occured in the Java Runtime Environment.
#1372 [15:37] <TRinlge> oh, so 1.2.5 is the newest?
#1373 [15:37] <TRinlge> oke thanks
#1374 [15:37] <NoelHitman> ok i wanna play minecraft but everytime it says " cant connect to minecraft.net"
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#1376 [15:37] <NoelHitman> i cant play offline
#1377 [15:38] <NEEDHELPBAD> Can someone help me because my minecraft app wont open
#1378 [15:38] <NoelHitman> what shell i do?
#1379 [15:38] <lutzee> Shaman27, can you copy the contents to pastebin and copy the link here
#1380 [15:38] <lutzee> NoelHitman, disable you firewall
#1381 [15:38] <NoelHitman> it is
#1382 [15:39] <NEEDHELPBAD> Like When i press my minecraft download it wont open it just randomly started doing this
#1383 [15:39] <lutzee> Do you use AVG by any chance NoelHitman ?
#1384 [15:39] <NoelHitman> no
#1385 [15:39] <NoelHitman> just kaspersky
#1386 [15:40] <Devin> NoelHitman, do you have a ! mark in your windows username?
#1387 [15:40] <NoelHitman> no
#1388 [15:40] <Shaman27> http://pastebin.com/xhG13ajA . here it is
#1389 [15:41] <Devin> NoelHitman, log onto minecraft.net
#1390 [15:41] <NoelHitman> okay
#1391 [15:41] <Devin> Just to see if you typed everyhting right :|
#1392 [15:41] <NoelHitman> i've logged in
#1393 [15:41] <NEEDHELPBAD> Can someone help me
#1394 [15:42] <NEEDHELPBAD> So no one can help me here
#1395 [15:42] <NEEDHELPBAD> wow
#1396 [15:43] <NoelHitman> just wait
#1397 [15:43] <NoelHitman> i have a problem too
#1398 [15:43] <NEEDHELPBAD> Whatz urs
#1399 [15:43] <NoelHitman> cant connect to minecraft.net
#1400 [15:43] <NoelHitman> and ur?
#1401 [15:44] <NEEDHELPBAD> i cant open my minecraft download it just randomly started
#1402 [15:44] <Calinou> NoelHitman, disable kaspersky temporarily?
#1403 [15:44] <Calinou> and windows's firewall too
#1404 [15:44] <NEEDHELPBAD> Like i can play in browser but its really slow
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#1406 [15:44] <NoelHitman> i've closed my kaspersky
#1407 [15:45] <NoelHitman> there is no kaspersky process in my task manager
#1408 [15:45] <Shaman27> lutzee, did you find the problem?
#1409 [15:45] <NoelHitman> so it is 100% closed
#1410 [15:46] <lutzee> Shaman27, try updating your graphics dirvers
#1411 [15:46] <Calinou> NEEDHELPBAD, what's your computer specs? do you have an integrated graphics card?
#1412 [15:46] <NEEDHELPBAD> Uhm idk
#1413 [15:46] <NEEDHELPBAD> Sorry
#1414 [15:46] <Calinou> if you want to play minecraft you need a dedicated video card else it will be slow
#1415 [15:46] <Calinou> are you on a netbook?
#1416 [15:46] <lutzee> ??> Shaman27 gpu/amd
#1417 [15:46] <VoxelHead> Shaman27: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1418 [15:46] <NEEDHELPBAD> No a inspiron
#1419 [15:47] <NEEDHELPBAD> Like i have played mineccraft on download for 1 year just fine
#1420 [15:47] <Calinou> -_- netbook = small laptop
#1421 [15:47] <Calinou> oh
#1422 [15:47] <NoelHitman> need minecraft a port to download the game?
#1423 [15:47] <Calinou> NoelHitman, no you don't have to forward ports
#1424 [15:47] <NoelHitman> a special
#1425 [15:47] <NoelHitman> okay
#1426 [15:47] <Calinou> but disable windows's firewall anyway
#1427 [15:47] <Calinou> NEEDHELPBAD, https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar < download, and open using java
#1428 [15:47] <NEEDHELPBAD> JUst like last week it wouldnt open
#1429 [15:47] <Calinou> might fix the issue
#1430 [15:47] <Calinou> (the "linux" version works fine on windows/mac. =)
#1431 [15:48] <NEEDHELPBAD> ok
#1432 [15:48] <NoelHitman> ive tried really much
#1433 [15:48] <NEEDHELPBAD> Okk i clicked it and it opened WTF THANK U
#1434 [15:48] <NoelHitman> i reinstalled java i think 3 times
#1435 [15:49] <Calinou> NEEDHELPBAD, no problem :)
#1436 [15:49] <NoelHitman> ive tried the old launcher
#1437 [15:49] <Calinou> the .exe is basically the .jar with some wrapper to always open it using java
#1438 [15:49] * Calinou slaps mojang around a bit using a large shotgun
#1438 [15:49] <NoelHitman> ive looked in youtube and they said that i have to change my timesettings
#1439 [15:49] <NoelHitman> no reaction
#1440 [15:50] <NoelHitman> so idk what i have to do now
#1441 [15:50] <Calinou> NoelHitman, https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar < you might try it too
#1442 [15:50] <Calinou> (open using java if it doesn't open upon double click)
#1443 [15:50] <NoelHitman> and what i forgot is
#1444 [15:50] <NoelHitman> that there is no page on my launcher
#1445 [15:50] <NoelHitman> just this code:
#1446 [15:50] <Calinou> > firewall issues
#1447 [15:50] <NoelHitman> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></font></body></html>
#1448 [15:51] <Calinou> NoelHitman, did you do what I said?
#1449 [15:51] <Calinou> the .jar launcher
#1450 [15:51] <NoelHitman> yep
#1451 [15:51] <NoelHitman> doesnt work
#1452 [15:51] <Calinou> (does it at least open the launcher?)
#1453 [15:51] <NoelHitman> yes
#1454 [15:52] <lutzee> NoelHitman, do you have java 6 or java7?
#1455 [15:52] <NoelHitman> but same error
#1456 [15:52] <NoelHitman> 7
#1457 [15:52] <lutzee> uninstall and install java6
#1458 [15:52] <NoelHitman> ok i try
#1459 [15:53] <lutzee> java7 defaults to IPv6, which the loginservers don't suuport
#1460 [15:54] <NoelHitman> I'll be back in a minute
#1461 [15:54] <NoelHitman> i have to restart
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#1463 [16:00] <TheNytangel> Hmm
#1464 [16:00] <TheNytangel> If a woman becomes president, who is the first lady?
#1465 [16:00] <NoelHitman> so i am back
#1466 [16:03] <NoelHitman> OMG
#1467 [16:03] <NoelHitman> IT WORKS!
#1468 [16:03] <NoelHitman> THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1469 [16:09] <Morrolan> Wouldn't it actually make more sense to advise people to use a .bat/.sh file to launch Minecraft with the "Force IPv4" option, than to advise them to use Java 7?
#1470 [16:09] <Morrolan> Seems to be both a faster and more future-proof solution to me.
#1471 [16:10] <lutzee> tell them no to use J7 but even so, people are dumb and have no clue what a bat file is
#1472 [16:10] <Morrolan> Yea, more people know how to remove software than how to create a batch file I guess.
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#1474 [16:15] <TheNytangel> Morrolan: can you answer my question now?
#1475 [16:15] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#1476 [16:15] <lutzee> evning marc
#1477 [16:15] <TheNytangel> If a woman becomes president, who is the first lady?
#1478 [16:16] <Morrolan> ;)
#1479 [16:16] <Morrolan> I guess we won't find out anytime soon. :P
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#1483 [16:30] <Calinou> lol
#1484 [16:30] <Calinou> oh hai Marc_IRL
#1485 [16:30] <Calinou> why did you advertise this channel on twitter :<
#1486 [16:30] <Calinou> people came this morning "anyone have any questions" and left
#1487 [16:30] * Calinou is disappoint
#1487 [16:31] <Marc_IRL> What? They joined, asked if you had questions, and then left?
#1488 [16:31] <Calinou> yep :P
#1489 [16:31] <Calinou> also, "sign up to be a forum mod" > has nothing to do with troubleshooting
#1490 [16:31] <Calinou> MCF sucks :P
#1491 [16:35] <Marc_IRL> You suck
#1492 [16:35] <Marc_IRL> :p
#1493 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Burn..
#1494 [16:35] <Marc_IRL> The Minecraft forums are another place that people go for help, and they're hurting for mods right now
#1495 [16:35] <ShaRose> mods that don't suck that is
#1496 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Ever since the forums switched to Curse, I've stayed away
#1497 [16:36] <ShaRose> the rules on MCF are dumb
#1498 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> The support section has like one active mod
#1499 [16:36] <ShaRose> it's literally against the rules to say incorrect information
#1500 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> Someone that I recommended :P
#1501 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Yikes
#1502 [16:36] <ShaRose> here's the kicker though GreyVulpine
#1503 [16:36] <ShaRose> none of the mods know this
#1504 [16:36] <ShaRose> they don't know the rules that they enforce
#1505 [16:37] <Calinou> <Marc_IRL> The Minecraft forums are another place that people go for help, and they're hurting for mods right now < "hurting", heh
#1506 [16:37] <langkid1> How do I run minecraft.jar so I can set my name for offline servers?
#1507 [16:37] <Marc_IRL> It should be against the rules to say incorrect information! One of the threads I read today told the OP on a thread that the reason he didn't have his account was because Mojang stole his money
#1508 [16:37] <Calinou> MCF community = a bunch of kids
#1509 [16:37] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#1509 [16:37] <ShaRose> I know it should be
#1510 [16:37] <langkid1> Calinou, they're always hurting for mods, the community needs to be whipped constantly
#1511 [16:37] <ShaRose> like I said, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT>
#1512 [16:37] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, but aren't a lot of people in here kids too? :p
#1513 [16:37] <Calinou> langkid1, hurting, not hunting. :P
#1514 [16:37] <ShaRose> we ignore them
#1515 [16:37] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1515 [16:37] * Calinou coughpalms
#1515 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - I can tell you that most of the ops here, are not kids.
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#1517 [16:38] <Marc_IRL> I didn't say the OPs were
#1518 [16:38] <Calinou> <langkid1> How do I run minecraft.jar so I can set my name for offline servers? > use your username as argument, this should work:
#1519 [16:38] <Calinou> java -jar -Xms1G -Xmx1G minecraft.jar "Username"
#1520 [16:38] <Calinou> (keep the quotes)
#1521 [16:38] <langkid1> ok thanks
#1522 [16:38] <Calinou> if it doesn't: java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp "%appdata%\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar;%appdata%\.minecraft\bin\lwjgl.jar;%appdata%\.minecraft\bin\lwjgl_util.jar;%appdata%\.minecraft\bin\jinput.jar;" -Djava.library.path="%appdata%\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft "Username"
#1523 [16:38] <Calinou> (windows)
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#1525 [16:40] <Morrolan> "<@GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - I can tell you that most of the ops here, are not kids." <- and from then on there was a fight about who was not included in those "most". ;)
#1526 [16:40] <Calinou> <Marc_IRL> The support section has like one active mod
#1527 [16:40] <Calinou> I prefer IRC for support, much better than a forum
#1528 [16:40] <Calinou> also, less noob-proof = slightly less stupid questions
#1529 [16:41] <GreyVulpine> Nobody ever does the search function on a forum, and what they do find, is quite often outdated
#1530 [16:41] <Marc_IRL> As far as I know, all of the OPs here are ten :p
#1531 [16:41] <Marc_IRL> You're all just text on my screen!
#1532 [16:41] * GreyVulpine points at Marc_IRL's @
#1532 [16:41] <Morrolan> Forums have the advantage of having sticky threads and the like though.
#1533 [16:41] <Calinou> TIL Marc_IRL is 10
#1534 [16:41] <Calinou> Morrolan, yep - people often miss the /topic here
#1535 [16:41] <Calinou> "Nobody ever does the search function on a forum, and what they do find, is quite often outdated" < true
#1536 [16:42] <tips48> Marc_IRL, You liar
#1537 [16:42] <tips48> Their 7
#1538 [16:42] <GreyVulpine> "They're"
#1539 [16:42] <Calinou> <english,please>their > they're</english,please>
#1540 [16:42] * tips48 headdesks
#1540 [16:42] * Calinou footchairs
#1540 [16:42] <tips48> *Le goes back to coding*
#1541 [16:42] <Morrolan> Sure, but what I mean is that a sticky thread on a forum provides me with more information than an IRC channel's topic could. :)
#1542 [16:42] <Calinou> *le slaps tips48*
#1543 [16:42] <tips48> :/
#1544 [16:42] <tips48> Morrolan, That depends on the topic
#1545 [16:42] <Calinou> Morrolan, yeah that, but still... forums aren't live chat so they aren't made for support
#1546 [16:43] <Morrolan> Aye, that's true.
#1547 [16:43] <tips48> I believe that you can easily have as much information in a IRC channel's topic
#1548 [16:43] <Morrolan> I prefer IRC too, but there are things I like forums for.
#1549 [16:43] <Morrolan> tips48 - That I'd like to see. :)
#1550 [16:43] <tips48> Worst case comes to worst
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#1552 [16:43] <tips48> Topic: Blah blah blah blah. Minecraft has been updated! Read more: [Link to update notes]
#1553 [16:44] <Calinou> comments: "wut is dis how do i install this???????"
#1554 [16:44] <tips48> Something like that where it links to mojang.com's post on it, for example
#1555 [16:44] <Calinou> also: "Bug tracker: http://goo.gl/GZWrJ" < terribly outdated
#1556 [16:44] <tips48> ^yea, isn't even correct
#1557 [16:44] <tips48> The amount of time I've spent in Bukkit Help is...Way to much. Forums are a horrible medium for live support
#1558 [16:44] <tips48> :/
#1559 [16:44] <moiracookie> hello I have been getting this message...internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeOutException: Read TimeOut
#1560 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> !topic del 2
#1561 [16:44] <Morrolan> Oh, another member for the ever-growing pile of outdated factoids and topic parts. :)
#1562 [16:45] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1562 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> What link? I see no link
#1563 [16:45] <tips48> moiracookie, What are you trying to do?
#1564 [16:45] <Morrolan> Hmm.
#1565 [16:45] * Morrolan cleans his glasses
#1565 [16:45] <Morrolan> Must have been a spot on there.
#1566 [16:45] * tips48 throws Morrolan's glasses away
#1566 [16:45] <moiracookie> tip I want to know the solve the problem
#1567 [16:45] <tips48> :o
#1568 [16:45] <moiracookie> *how to
#1569 [16:45] <Marc_IRL> I don't think I have ever read the topic before :-/
#1570 [16:45] <tips48> moiracookie, What are you doing when that error occurs, I mean
#1571 [16:45] * Morrolan pokes tips48's nose instead of the light switch now
#1571 [16:45] <tips48> lol
#1572 [16:46] * tips48 > Minecraft's staff
#1572 [16:46] <Calinou> lol
#1573 [16:46] * tips48 whistles
#1573 [16:46] <moiracookie> tips I am usually on mumble when I play minecraft
#1574 [16:46] * Calinou > Minecraft
#1574 [16:46] * tips48 > Calinou
#1574 [16:46] * tips48 is da winrar
#1574 [16:46] <Calinou> moiracookie, the server just crashed maybe
#1575 [16:46] <Calinou> or your firewall is acting up
#1576 [16:46] <moiracookie> the server didnt crash for others,
#1577 [16:46] * Twentythree [Twentythree@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1578 [16:46] * Twentythree > Twentytwo
#1578 [16:46] <dark> the server runs just fine
#1579 [16:46] <Calinou> moiracookie, do you have any antivirus/firewall?
#1580 [16:47] * GreyVulpine predicts a corrupt player.dat
#1580 [16:47] * tips69 > Twentythree
#1580 [16:47] <moiracookie> i have avast anti and zonealarm firewall
#1581 [16:47] <tips69> GreyVulpine is likely correct
#1582 [16:47] <tips69> That's a big source
#1583 [16:47] * tips69 > tips48
#1583 [16:47] <moiracookie> i turned the antivirus off and it puts me through the void
#1584 [16:47] <tips69> Corrupt player.dat, seems like
#1585 [16:47] <tips69> sounds*
#1586 [16:47] <Calinou> zonealarm firewall > disable
#1587 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> zonealarm does have a tendancy to exhibit behavior like this as well
#1588 [16:47] <Calinou> you pretty much do not need a firewall - 99% of routers have a firewall
#1589 [16:48] <GreyVulpine> NAT > firewall
#1590 [16:48] <Calinou> ^
#1591 [16:48] <moiracookie> i did turn off zone alarm but that didnt help
#1592 [16:48] <Marc_IRL> Calinou: Where is there a link to a bug tracker that points to get satisfaction?
#1593 [16:48] <Calinou> the link was removed Marc_IRL
#1594 [16:48] * Calinou gets Marc_IRL's satisfaction
#1594 [16:48] <Morrolan> Oh my, get a #bed you two. :)
#1595 [16:49] * Grim_Reaper hugs Morrolan
#1595 [16:49] <moiracookie> see i cant get access to my router because it's wireless
#1596 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> moiracookie - Try going to the server's files, in the world folder, there's a players folder. Delete your playername.dat
#1597 [16:49] * Morrolan hugs Grim_Reaper
#1597 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#1598 [16:49] <moiracookie> I will have to find the server owner
#1599 [16:49] <Morrolan> moiracookie - You can still access it, put its IP address into the URL field of your webbrowser.
#1600 [16:49] <Calinou> ^ this will delete your inventory and put you to spawn
#1601 [16:49] <Morrolan> But go with the player.dat solution first. :)
#1602 [16:50] <moiracookie> access what?
#1603 [16:50] <tips69> Morrolan, This ain't twitter!
#1604 [16:50] <Morrolan> How come?
#1605 [16:50] <moiracookie> thanks you guys so much
#1606 [16:50] <Calinou> gtg - night
#1607 [16:50] <moiracookie> you were so helpful
#1608 [16:50] <Morrolan> Wanna compare average message lengths, tips69? ;D
#1609 [16:50] <Calinou> moiracookie, no problem :P
#1610 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> I read that as... genital lengths..
#1611 [16:50] <Calinou> olol
#1612 [16:50] <Calinou> this channel is sometimes offtopic, Morrolan
#1613 [16:50] <Calinou> moiracookie*
#1614 [16:50] <tips69> if (IRC != twitter) { morrolan.sendMessage("Lol @ hashtags"); }
#1615 [16:50] * CrusaderDeleters [CrusaderDeleters@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1616 [16:51] <Morrolan> Last I checked IRC used hashtags to indicate channels though. :D
#1617 [16:51] <Calinou> if (= $java 1) [say "java sucks, period."]
#1618 [16:51] <Calinou> cubescript FTW
#1619 [16:51] <Grim_Reaper> #morrolan
#1620 [16:51] <tips69> ^Yet minecraft is coded in java
#1621 [16:51] <tips69> point = null
#1622 [16:51] <Calinou> yes
#1623 [16:51] <Calinou> floating = point
#1624 [16:51] <clarjon1> tips69: java sucks, PERIOD.
#1625 [16:51] <Grim_Reaper> Oh gosh it actually exists
#1626 [16:52] <moiracookie> if that doesnt work i can always come back right?
#1627 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Of course.
#1628 [16:52] <tips69> clarjon1, #CoolStoryBro
#1629 [16:52] <Calinou> moiracookie, sure, feel free to idle on this channel if you want
#1630 [16:52] <Calinou> 10pm GMT+1: offtopic hour?
#1631 [16:52] <clarjon1> tips69: just because something nice was made from a pile of crap, doesn't mean that it's now gold
#1632 [16:52] <tips69> lolol
#1633 [16:52] <moiracookie> i agree with tips...java is horrible...
#1634 [16:52] <clarjon1> tips69: Someone made hamburgers from human crap
#1635 [16:53] <clarjon1> tips69: Doesn't chnage that human crap is human crap.
#1636 [16:53] <moiracookie> but at least im learning more about computer codes thanks to minecraft =.=
#1637 [16:53] <tips69> clarjon1, I'm just saying it can't be that crap
#1638 [16:53] <moiracookie> even if i know nothing about them
#1639 [16:53] <Calinou> C++/lua FTW
#1640 [16:53] <TheNytangel> Calinou: Karen is getting at least $1,000 every 5 minutes
#1641 [16:53] * Calinou discretely points to minetest
#1641 [16:53] <Calinou> TheNytangel, what's karen
#1642 [16:53] <TheNytangel> Never mind then..
#1643 [16:53] <Calinou> also, cool story
#1644 [16:54] <tips69> bro
#1645 [16:54] <Calinou> moiracookie, you don't say "computer codes" but "programming languages" :P
#1646 [16:54] <moiracookie> right sorry cali
#1647 [16:54] <Calinou> no problem
#1648 [16:54] <tips69> I code in java, so I'm biased
#1649 [16:54] <tips69> lol
#1650 [16:55] <moiracookie> tips then u have a love hate relationship w/ java
#1651 [16:55] * Vortex_Spear [Vortex_Spear@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1652 [16:55] <tips69> lol
#1653 [16:55] <Vortex_Spear> hey guys
#1654 [16:55] <Vortex_Spear> i need help
#1655 [16:55] <Vortex_Spear> Can anyone answer my question?
#1656 [16:55] <Vortex_Spear> :)
#1657 [16:56] <moiracookie> be more specific vortex
#1658 [16:56] <Vortex_Spear> okay :3
#1659 [16:56] <moiracookie> or else they cant help you
#1660 [16:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't ask to ask, just ask your question.
#1661 [16:56] <tips69> ^
#1662 [16:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Moir, if you are also a helper, the correct term would be "we". c:
#1663 [16:56] <Vortex_Spear> When I install the furniture mod, and i craft it in my server, it says "end of stream"
#1664 [16:56] <Vortex_Spear> How do i fix that?
#1665 [16:56] <moiracookie> i cant help...i dont know anything about computers
#1666 [16:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Install the mod for your server.
#1667 [16:57] <tips69> Vortex_Spear, Did you install the mod on your server too?
#1668 [16:57] <Vortex_Spear> I followed the instructions from this site: http://www.planetminecraft.com/mod/11-furniture-mod-v10-simple-addtion/
#1669 [16:57] <tips69> You'll need too
#1670 [16:57] <Vortex_Spear> yes
#1671 [16:57] <tips69> Delete META-INF on both server and client?
#1672 [16:57] <Vortex_Spear> it says not too
#1673 [16:57] <tips69> hmm..
#1674 [16:58] <lutzee> dont delete meta inf on server..
#1675 [16:58] <Vortex_Spear> So I cant fix it?
#1676 [16:58] <Vortex_Spear> i didn't
#1677 [16:58] <Vortex_Spear> o_o
#1678 [16:58] <lutzee> anyway, check that config files match on client and server
#1679 [16:58] <Vortex_Spear> how?
#1680 [16:58] <lutzee> copy client configs to the server or vise versa
#1681 [16:59] <Vortex_Spear> k i did that
#1682 [16:59] <Vortex_Spear> it still wont work
#1683 [16:59] <CrusaderDeleters> You need to reset server...
#1684 [16:59] <Vortex_Spear> I did
#1685 [16:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright.
#1686 [17:00] <tips69> Your not running Bukkit, Tekkit, or hMod, right?
#1687 [17:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, just a note, but we technically do not have to help with modded minecraft. c:
#1688 [17:00] <Vortex_Spear> No.
#1689 [17:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Bro, hMod is dead.
#1690 [17:00] <tips69> It's been dead
#1691 [17:00] <tips69> I know
#1692 [17:00] <tips69> Yet, I've seen servers still using it
#1693 [17:00] * Lardman [Lardman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1694 [17:00] <tips69> Why they don't convert to bukkit..I haz no cluz
#1695 [17:00] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#1696 [17:00] <tips69> cluez*
#1697 [17:00] <tips69> fail z :P
#1698 [17:00] <Vortex_Spear> Just Minecraft_Server.exe and Minecraft_server.jar
#1699 [17:00] <CrusaderDeleters> lolz
#1700 [17:00] <tips69> lol
#1701 [17:00] <Vortex_Spear> in the same folder.
#1702 [17:00] <tips69> Vortex_Spear, There's the problem
#1703 [17:00] <tips69> Vortex_Spear, There's the problem
#1704 [17:00] * Lardman [Lardman@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#1705 [17:00] <Vortex_Spear> ?
#1706 [17:00] <lutzee> Vortex_Spear, are you still running the minecraft.exe?
#1707 [17:00] <tips69> You don't run Minecraft_Server.exe
#1708 [17:00] <tips69> Only Minecraft_server.jar
#1709 [17:01] <tips69> put this in a bat script
#1710 [17:01] <Vortex_Spear> oh o_O
#1711 [17:01] <tips69> java -Xmx2G -jar Minecraft_server.jar
#1712 [17:01] <Vortex_Spear> bat script?
#1713 [17:01] <tips69> Replace 2G with how many Gig ram you want to run with
#1714 [17:01] <tips69> Your on windows, right?
#1715 [17:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Tips, he is not that much of a nerd.
#1716 [17:01] <Vortex_Spear> yes
#1717 [17:01] <lutzee> minecraft_server.exe is just a .jar in an exe wrapper
#1718 [17:01] <tips69> Create a new .txt file
#1719 [17:01] <tips69> put in it
#1720 [17:01] <tips69> java -Xmx2G -jar Minecraft_server.jar
#1721 [17:02] <tips69> rename it to "start.bat" or something like that with .bat at the end
#1722 [17:02] <tips69> Run it
#1723 [17:02] <Vortex_Spear> okay
#1724 [17:02] <tips69> Should work
#1725 [17:02] <Vortex_Spear> do i delete minecraft_server.exe?
#1726 [17:02] <tips69> (Also, you can replace 2G with how many gig's of ram you want to run your server with)
#1727 [17:02] <tips69> Yes, you can
#1728 [17:02] <CrusaderDeleters> I'd just download a new bat file, rename it, and edit it's contents.
#1729 [17:02] <tips48> ^lol why?
#1730 [17:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Easier
#1731 [17:02] <tips48> Saving a txt and renaming it is easier
#1732 [17:02] <tips48> naaa
#1733 [17:03] <tips48> no internet required here
#1734 [17:03] <Vortex_Spear> how do i make a .txt file?
#1735 [17:03] <CrusaderDeleters> So? c:
#1736 [17:03] <tips48> Right click -> New -> Txt file
#1737 [17:03] * CrusaderDeleters facepalms.
#1737 [17:03] <tips48> or Text document
#1738 [17:03] <tips48> Or something like that
#1739 [17:03] <tips48> CrusaderDeleters, +1
#1740 [17:03] <CrusaderDeleters> tips48: +1, for helping him out.
#1741 [17:04] <tips48> lol
#1742 [17:04] <tips48> I do this every day
#1743 [17:04] <tips48> Why not do it in a official channel? haha
#1744 [17:04] <CrusaderDeleters> I do it every day too. c:
#1745 [17:04] <CrusaderDeleters> I am currently helping someone who is friggen lost.
#1746 [17:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Both me and disk helped.
#1747 [17:04] <tips48> :C
#1748 [17:04] <Vortex_Spear> okay
#1749 [17:04] <Vortex_Spear> i put it in
#1750 [17:04] <Vortex_Spear> now what?
#1751 [17:05] <CrusaderDeleters> clickie clickie
#1752 [17:05] <tips48> ^
#1753 [17:05] <tips48> A CMD should pop up
#1754 [17:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Imagine as if it were the exe you just had, except better.
#1755 [17:05] <tips48> Well, worse looking
#1756 [17:05] <tips48> xD
#1757 [17:05] <CrusaderDeleters> It displays all errors.
#1758 [17:05] <CrusaderDeleters> That's what I call better.
#1759 [17:06] <tips48> lol, true
#1760 [17:06] <Vortex_Spear> when i click it, it doesn't open anything
#1761 [17:06] <CrusaderDeleters> afk, pulling up calender and writing down my hours for fivedays
#1762 [17:06] <tips48> Vortex_Spear, Right click, edit
#1763 [17:06] <tips48> Add pause on the next line
#1764 [17:06] <tips48> Run again
#1765 [17:07] <CrusaderDeleters> cool smelling pen is cool
#1766 [17:07] <tips48> ...
#1767 [17:07] * tips48 watches CrusaderDeleters get high
#1767 [17:07] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#1768 [17:07] <Vortex_Spear> WOAH
#1769 [17:07] <Vortex_Spear> okay
#1770 [17:07] <Vortex_Spear> now what?
#1771 [17:07] <CrusaderDeleters> rub
#1772 [17:07] <CrusaderDeleters> '
#1773 [17:07] <tips48> What does it say?
#1774 [17:07] <CrusaderDeleters> run
#1775 [17:07] <tips48> lol shutup CrusaderDeleters
#1776 [17:07] <Vortex_Spear> press any key to continue
#1777 [17:07] <tips48> "rub"
#1778 [17:08] <tips48> Vortex_Spear, That's it? No errors?
#1779 [17:08] <Vortex_Spear> wait
#1780 [17:08] <Vortex_Spear> yeah
#1781 [17:08] <Vortex_Spear> it says
#1782 [17:08] <CrusaderDeleters> its a mistype. XD'
#1783 [17:08] <tips48> inb4javacan'tbefound
#1784 [17:08] <Vortex_Spear> yeah
#1785 [17:08] <Vortex_Spear> it says that
#1786 [17:08] <tips48> :D
#1787 [17:08] <CrusaderDeleters> smart kid
#1788 [17:08] <tips48> one sec
#1789 [17:09] <GreyVulpine> Either give absolute path to java in the .bat file, or edit environment variables
#1790 [17:09] <tips48> Try this
#1791 [17:09] <tips48> http://pastie.org/4128566
#1792 [17:09] <Vortex_Spear> o_o
#1793 [17:09] <Vortex_Spear> what do i do with it?
#1794 [17:09] <tips48> Replace what you had with that
#1795 [17:09] <tips48> Once again, replacing 2G with how much ram you want to use
#1796 [17:09] <Vortex_Spear> with all of it?
#1797 [17:09] <tips48> Yes, all of it
#1798 [17:10] <tips48> If it doesn't load, edit it again and add pause to the next line, and paste the error here
#1799 [17:12] <Vortex_Spear> it says like
#1800 [17:12] <Vortex_Spear> blah blah is not regonized
#1801 [17:12] <tips48> hmm
#1802 [17:12] <tips48> Navigate to C:\Program Files
#1803 [17:12] <Vortex_Spear> okay
#1804 [17:12] <Vortex_Spear> now what
#1805 [17:13] <tips48> Goto the folder named "Java"
#1806 [17:13] <Vortex_Spear> okay
#1807 [17:13] <Vortex_Spear> now what?
#1808 [17:13] <tips48> What are the folders there? (The name(s))
#1809 [17:13] <Grim_Reaper> Damnit where did marc go
#1810 [17:14] <tips48> left
#1811 [17:14] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#1812 [17:14] <Vortex_Spear> bin, lib, copyright, license, license.txt, patch.err, readme.txt
#1813 [17:14] <tips48> Vortex_Spear, That can't be right
#1814 [17:14] <tips48> Your in C:\Program Files\Java ?
#1815 [17:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I feel like saying something so absurd.
#1816 [17:15] <tips48> ..
#1817 [17:20] <Boreeas> Actually, that looks about right
#1818 [17:20] <tips48> ?
#1819 [17:21] <tips48> That should be under a folder such as jre-6.0
#1820 [17:21] <tips48> or something like that
#1821 [17:21] <tips48> Java just contains the various versions of java installed
#1822 [17:21] <tips48> E.X. C:\Program Files\Java\JDK-1.7.0\bin
#1823 [17:21] <tips48> Minus the weird capitaliziation :p
#1824 [17:21] * Dan [Dan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
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#1826 [17:28] <CrusaderDeleters> tips
#1827 [17:28] <tips48> Crusader
#1828 [17:28] <CrusaderDeleters> the jdk folder has a seperate jre folder within it.
#1829 [17:29] <tips48> yes
#1830 [17:29] <tips48> I'm well aware, I've got everything from JDK 5 to JDK 7 installed :p
#1831 [17:29] <CrusaderDeleters> C:\Program Files\Java\jdk-1.7.05\jre-1.7.05\bin
#1832 [17:29] <CrusaderDeleters> :I
#1833 [17:29] <CrusaderDeleters> I hope you do not plan to play minecraft classic then.
#1834 [17:30] <tips48> lol
#1835 [17:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyone using the wom client must be wary.
#1836 [17:31] <CrusaderDeleters> If you connect your account to mojang.com, replace your email in the Direct Connect url to your username, and it IS case sensitive.
#1837 [17:31] <Boreeas> I have 6 and 7
#1838 [17:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Example, I cannot use CrusaderDeleters, because I have a mojang account. I cannot use linknzelda123, because it is Linknzelda123
#1839 [17:31] <Boreeas> @kepler:~$ ls /usr/lib/jvm
#1840 [17:31] <Boreeas> jdk1.6.0_30 jdk1.7.0 jdk-6u30-linux-x64.bin
#1841 [17:31] <CrusaderDeleters> @kepler:~$ ls /usr/lib/jvm
#1842 [17:32] <CrusaderDeleters> :I
#1843 [17:32] <Boreeas> Hm?
#1844 [17:34] * Blood_Mind [Blood_Mind@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1845 [17:35] <Blood_Mind> hey everbody, you here Crusade?
#1846 [17:35] <Blood_Mind> or available?
#1847 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> I'm here, but non compis mentis right now due to doing battle with the bank
#1848 [17:35] <Blood_Mind> huh!? whats dat
#1849 [17:36] <Blood_Mind> ok
#1850 [17:37] <Boreeas> Blood_Mind: What is your problem?
#1851 [17:38] * SableSacrament [SableSacrament@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1852 [17:38] <Boreeas> Dan: Get off your admin account and use a normal user account :P
#1853 [17:38] <Blood_Mind> uh, i was looking for CrusadersDeleters because he was helping me yesterday
#1854 [17:38] <Blood_Mind> but do you know how to get rid of black screen of death on minecraft, i have Windows 7
#1855 [17:38] <Blood_Mind> minecraft classic
#1856 [17:39] <Boreeas> No, no experience with classic, sorry
#1857 [17:39] <Boreeas> What java version do you use?
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#1859 [17:40] <Blood_Mind> ok, then i wat for Crusade
#1860 [17:40] <Blood_Mind> wait*
#1861 [17:40] * Boreeas pokes CrusaderDeleters
#1861 [17:40] * Elystus [Elystus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1862 [17:40] <Blood_Mind> he said he'll be back at 5pm or later eastern time
#1863 [17:41] <Blood_Mind> what's that in central? do you know?
#1864 [17:41] <DiskDaemon> I believe that CrusaderDeleters was going to see if the WoM Classic version would be of any help. I'm off out the door now though to get some shopping done.
#1865 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> 5pm eastern is 4pm central
#1866 [17:41] <Elystus> Disk you got voiced!
#1867 [17:41] <Blood_Mind> ok
#1868 [17:41] <Elystus> Btw, this is lardman213
#1869 [17:42] <Elystus> got a name change on the forums and all that.
#1870 [17:42] <Elystus> wanted a more serious name.
#1871 [17:42] <DiskDaemon> good one - back in a while.
#1872 [17:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Someone pinged me. Twic.
#1873 [17:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Blood_Mind: hi.
#1874 [17:44] <Blood_Mind> hey bud
#1875 [17:44] <geraldbrent> Disk and Blood.
#1876 [17:44] <geraldbrent> That's who.
#1877 [17:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#1878 [17:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright
#1879 [17:45] <Blood_Mind> do you know how to do this on windows? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1XUkTAN0cE
#1880 [17:45] <CrusaderDeleters> tips48: you still here?
#1881 [17:45] <tips48> ye
#1882 [17:45] <tips48> not for long
#1883 [17:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Hold on.
#1884 [17:45] <tips48> l
#1885 [17:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Blood, teamviewer again?
#1886 [17:45] <tips48> k*
#1887 [17:46] <Blood_Mind> sure
#1888 [17:47] <Blood_Mind> k, i got it
#1889 [17:47] * [1]wubwubwub [[1]wubwubwub@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1890 [17:48] <[1]wubwubwub> Does anyone here know any good new-entry servers?
#1891 [17:48] <CrusaderDeleters> im afk for one minute'
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#1893 [17:48] <Blood_Mind> for minedraft classic?
#1894 [17:48] <Blood_Mind> craft*
#1895 [17:48] <Blood_Mind> i like Imperium
#1896 [17:48] <Blood_Mind> (free build)
#1897 [17:49] <Blood_Mind> or FREEBUILD FOR FUN
#1898 [17:50] <[1]wubwubwub> Yes
#1899 [17:50] <[1]wubwubwub> Classic as in without modications.
#1900 [17:51] <Blood_Mind> or also know as the dummy version according to my friend who bought it
#1901 [17:51] <CrusaderDeleters> woot
#1902 [17:51] <CrusaderDeleters> 53 hours on my next check.
#1903 [17:51] <CrusaderDeleters> app. 424$
#1904 [17:56] <Blood_Mind> u there?
#1905 [17:59] <CrusaderDeleters> tips48:
#1906 [17:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Can I get a version that starts up the classic minecraft.jar?
#1907 [18:00] <[1]wubwubwub> Sorry, I was eating. So Blood_Mind, are you talking about the Minecraft that's playable through Mojang's website?
#1908 [18:00] <Blood_Mind> It's classic mode.
#1909 [18:01] <Blood_Mind> also, this is crusaderdeleters using teamviewer for remote contol.
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#1911 [18:02] <[1]wubwubwub> I'm looking for servers on the purchased Minecraft, doesn't matter if it's PVP.
#1912 [18:02] <Blood_Mind> smp.gamezgalaxy.com
#1913 [18:02] <Blood_Mind> pvp.gamezglaxy.com:25566
#1914 [18:02] <Blood_Mind> ~Crus
#1915 [18:02] <[1]wubwubwub> I'll try it. Thanks.
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#1917 [18:03] <moiracookie> i encountered a new error
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#1919 [18:05] <moiracookie> the new error is internal exception: java.net. SocketException:software caused connection abort: writer error
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#1922 [18:09] <jj_> minecraft keeps crashing every time i use it i have tried to download the game again and it does not work
#1923 [18:09] <jj_> minecraft keeps crashing every time i use it i have tried to download the game again and it does not work
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#1925 [18:15] <Blood_Mind> Alright, there's a slight problem at the moment. It is saying that the jre or the Runtime is corrupt.
#1926 [18:16] <moiracookie> what?
#1927 [18:16] <moiracookie> what it related to
#1928 [18:17] <Blood_Mind> World of Minecraft.
#1929 [18:17] <Blood_Mind> I am reinstalling it.
#1930 [18:17] <moiracookie> ok
#1931 [18:23] <Blood_Mind> I do not get this. I attempted to load WorldofMinecraft.com, yet it said it didn't respond.
#1932 [18:26] <Blood_Mind> Tips, I am not in need of the .bat anymore. I created one myself
#1933 [18:26] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> A spelling error.
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#1935 [18:28] <xCreepyCrapx> I cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1936 [18:29] <xCreepyCrapx> not on my technic launcher either
#1937 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> !login
#1938 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> Login server seems to be up.
#1939 [18:30] <xCreepyCrapx> But i cannot connect still
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#1941 [18:30] <xCreepyCrapx> i dont know why
#1942 [18:30] <xCreepyCrapx> my firewalls are off and i have tried reinstalling .minecraft
#1943 [18:30] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Java.
#1944 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Has it ever worked before?
#1945 [18:30] <xCreepyCrapx> yes
#1946 [18:31] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Check if you have java six and seven.
#1947 [18:31] <xCreepyCrapx> i have java 7
#1948 [18:31] <xCreepyCrapx> just reinstalled java and restarted my computer
#1949 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall all java, reinstall 6 instead
#1950 [18:31] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Oh, grey, I cannot connect to a certain web page! D: I can with others.
#1951 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> What web page?
#1952 [18:31] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> worldofminecraft.com
#1953 [18:31] <xCreepyCrapx> okey i will try, thank you !
#1954 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> !isdown worldofminecraft.com
#1955 [18:31] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's just you. http://worldofminecraft.com is up.
#1956 [18:32] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Not working for me.
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#1958 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Try using a different DNS server
#1959 [18:38] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> You mean via proxy?
#1960 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> No, I mean, try editing your internet connection settings, either in your network interface, or your router to use a different DNS server
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#1964 [18:51] <Electrochock> hi, my question is, it is true soon, members will can change his nickname account ? or should i bought a new account
#1965 [18:52] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> I heard about that.
#1966 [18:52] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> It's kinda rumored, however.
#1967 [18:52] <lutzee> not for a long while,
#1968 [18:54] <Deathspawn> anyone know what port pocket edition uses for servers?
#1969 [18:55] <CrusaderDeleters> That kind.
#1970 [18:56] <lutzee> PE only supports LAN i believe
#1971 [18:57] <Electrochock> i tried LAN and it's works
#1972 [19:04] <langkid1> lutzee, does PE support a VPN?
#1973 [19:06] <lutzee> no clue...
#1974 [19:10] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> "The registry refers to a nonexistant Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupted. > > The system cannot find the path specified."
#1975 [19:11] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Any idea what is wrong?
#1976 [19:11] <zkxs> bad java install/uninstall
#1977 [19:12] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Already did.
#1978 [19:12] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Twice.
#1979 [19:12] <zkxs> You could try uninstalling, running ccleaner, then reinstalling
#1980 [19:13] <zkxs> Also, don't install a version you already downloaded, download a new one
#1981 [19:13] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> I did install a new download
#1982 [19:13] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> I even installed something different.
#1983 [19:13] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Bro, you are talking to CrusaderDeleters. c:
#1984 [19:14] <zkxs> In that case, the problem isn't the install being bad, it is an uninstall left crap behind.
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#1986 [19:14] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Probably.
#1987 [19:14] <Wortho27> helloo
#1988 [19:14] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> I'll search the Regedit for java, after uninstallation.
#1989 [19:15] <zkxs> I'd just try ccleaner first. Searching the registry will probably give you an ungodly amount of results
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#1993 [19:24] <Agad98> How do you mine diamonds when i mine it with the stone pickaxe nothing happens
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#1995 [19:26] <GreyVulpine> You need an iron pickaxe to mine for diamond
#1996 [19:26] <Agad98> I play minecraft on the iPod if that helps
#1997 [19:26] <lutzee> Agad98, you paid for it?
#1998 [19:26] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> hey Crusade? whassup
#1999 [19:26] <Agad98> Hw do u get a iron pickaxe on iPod
#2000 [19:28] <Agad98> I paid for minecraft
#2001 [19:29] <GreyVulpine> Check crafting, instead of stone, use iron
#2002 [19:29] <Wortho27> merr, havn't played pocket
#2003 [19:29] <clarjon1> i don't think you can...
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#2005 [19:30] <clarjon1> oh, you can
#2006 [19:30] <Agad98> Ok I'll double check crafting
#2007 [19:30] <clarjon1> http://minecraftpocketedition.wikia.com/wiki/Pickaxe
#2008 [19:31] <clarjon1> looks like only stone and wood are available
#2009 [19:31] <Lakis> Hey, I have a question. How can I prevent people from Sending me unwanted password Change Emails... Because I'm getting at least three every month... Any way to stop that?
#2010 [19:32] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Send to junkmail. ~Crus
#2011 [19:32] <Agad98> Thanks clarion
#2012 [19:33] <Lakis> I've been doing that but they won't stop. and I don't actually want to call it spam because then I would have to hunt it down in the Spam folder...
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#2014 [19:33] <Lakis> if I did need to change my password
#2015 [19:35] <Lakis> I will just deal with it... Hopefully they will stop... eventually...
#2016 [19:35] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> CCleaner. Link please?
#2017 [19:36] <Blood_Mind|CrusControl> Java is in the System32!
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#2020 [19:42] <Guest_> Hey guys
#2021 [19:43] <Guest_> Is it possible to play the new minecraft snapshot on a GPU that doesn't have OpenGL capabilities? I've been trying to run it, but it keeps crashing and giving me the error that says that it can't find OpenGL
#2022 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> The thing is, Javafx might be a problem. I am uninstalling and checking out if that mgith be the problem.
#2023 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope.
#2024 [19:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Update your drivers.
#2025 [19:45] <Guest_> I already tried that. They're updated. The GPU is about 7 years old
#2026 [19:45] <Guest_> it can run normal minecraft, just not the new snapshot
#2027 [19:46] <CrusaderDeleters> did you replace minecraft.jar with the snapshot?
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#2029 [19:50] <Blood_Mind|Crus> Alright, link for CCleaner, please.
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#2031 [19:52] <Blood_Mind|Crus> wtf?
#2032 [19:52] <Blood_Mind|Crus> Java says it is currently installed, Microsoft says otherwise.
#2033 [19:54] <Guest_> yeah, I replaced it
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#2035 [20:05] <Blood_Mind|Crus> CCleaner, anyone?
#2036 [20:06] <Blood_Mind|Crus> lutzee?
#2037 [20:06] <lutzee> google is your friend
#2038 [20:06] <Blood_Mind|Crus> :c I don't know the trusted site.
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#2040 [20:12] <Marc_IRL> Yo
#2041 [20:12] <Marc_IRL> So the whole black screen thing. Is that usually bad video card drivers?
#2042 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> That, or a bad mod install.
#2043 [20:13] <GreyVulpine> Or a bad texture pack install
#2044 [20:13] <Marc_IRL> I'm assuming vanilla installs. A lot of those are reported from people who aren't super tech savvy, at least not enough to install mods.
#2045 [20:14] <GreyVulpine> It also depends on when it black screens
#2046 [20:14] <Marc_IRL> yeah, none of the emails I get are super specific, unfortunately
#2047 [20:16] <Blood_Mind|Crus> [19:13] <Marc_IRL> I'm assuming vanilla installs. A lot of those are reported from people who aren't super tech savvy, at least not enough to install mods.
#2048 [20:17] <Blood_Mind|Crus> This is something I am having trouble with. Hours on end of work.
#2049 [20:17] <Blood_Mind|Crus> Vanilla minecraft.
#2050 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Most commonly, the whole black screen thing is Java's way of saying "Something wrong, I can't go further". The things that go wrong to cause that are quite various.
#2051 [20:17] <Marc_IRL> What are like, the top three tech issues you guys see here?
#2052 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> The best way to find out is to run Minecraft from the command line, where status information from Java appears that can tell you what went wrong.
#2053 [20:18] <Blood_Mind|Crus> There's bad mods, outdated graphics
#2054 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> Java 7, Antivirus, and port forwarding would be my top three.
#2055 [20:18] <Blood_Mind|Crus> Java is installed in system32, disk.
#2056 [20:19] <Blood_Mind|Crus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/36603-nonexistent-java-runtime-environment/ Current problem I am workign out.
#2057 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I've started going through logs putting together some troubleshooting information. It's just a beginning, and doesn't yet have symptom/cause/resolution yet, but that's planned for it too. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Categories
#2058 [20:21] <Marc_IRL> Oh, that might turn out to be helpful
#2059 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Some earlier troubleshooting I've done has been for the Aether, for which I created much more useful symptom/cause/resolution information at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Aether_Collaboration/Troubleshooting
#2060 [20:22] <Marc_IRL> When do you think that you'll be done with that categories list?
#2061 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> It will take time
#2062 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> And it will continue to expand as minecraft grows.
#2063 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> or shrink
#2064 [20:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Hopefully shrink.
#2065 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> Currently it's part time as and when I'm free. I'd love to work at it full time though, but there's rent to pay
#2066 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> What you saw there is the result of around 3 days working on it. I just started it last week
#2067 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> Ah-hah, this sounded familiar
#2068 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> "Error 1723", when trying to reinstall java
#2069 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> :search 1723
#2070 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Bah, no wugbot
#2071 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> He had the factoid for that. Let me see if I can dig up the link from logs
#2072 [20:25] <Marc_IRL> I'm also complaining to Dinnerbone, heh
#2073 [20:26] <Marc_IRL> He says reporting will get better in the next update. And I sent him the link to that list, in case he wants to take a look.
#2074 [20:26] <CrusaderDeleters> ...
#2075 [20:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Grey
#2076 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> ??error/1723
#2077 [20:26] <CrusaderDeleters> :I
#2078 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> ?? error/1723
#2079 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> No wugbot
#2080 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> [09:00] <WugBot> error/1723: If you have made changes to your registry, you may experience issues installing or uninstalling java.
#2081 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> [09:00] <WugBot> error/1723: You may be able to repair these issues automatically with this tool: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
#2082 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Ah, thanks
#2083 [20:26] <CrusaderDeleters> I saw a miencraft forum post with you helping someone, and I am trying to help someone that has the same exact error.
#2084 [20:26] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/36603-nonexistent-java-runtime-environment/
#2085 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#2086 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched the forums for quite a while now
#2087 [20:27] <CrusaderDeleters> I know
#2088 [20:27] <CrusaderDeleters> but you are in this thread, helping someone with a problem that I recently quit teamviewer on.
#2089 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Oh wow, that was in 2010..
#2090 [20:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah.
#2091 [20:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Wow, really? 0.0
#2092 [20:30] <CrusaderDeleters> That was alpha. Anyways, it is still the same problem.
#2093 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> As DiskDaemon pasted, you can just have them download that fixer, and then redownload and install java again
#2094 [20:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Trying to uninstall java makes microsoft say it is not installed. Trying to install java says that java is already existant, and you msut uninstall java.
#2095 [20:31] <Marc_IRL> So apparently the devs are working on a public issue tracker. You log in, create an issue, it gets assigned to them, and they take a look at it. Probably from more of a coding standpoint than a customer service standpoint. It should eventually let them nail the major issues. That, combined with more error reporting in the next version = awesome
#2096 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Didn't they try that with getsatisfaction, and it failed horribly?
#2097 [20:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Mojang should make customer support, like GM's from MMO's.
#2098 [20:32] <Marc_IRL> GetSatisfaction isn't any place for actual reporting, though. Like, you can't assign tickets.
#2099 [20:32] <Marc_IRL> CrusaderDeleters: explain?
#2100 [20:32] <CrusaderDeleters> You know how you enter a ticket, and one of many GM's help you with that problem?
#2101 [20:32] <Marc_IRL> No, which is why I asked you to explain :p
#2102 [20:32] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#2103 [20:32] <Marc_IRL> I don't play WoW because I want to have a life, and I know it'd destroy mine
#2104 [20:33] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: the example Dinnerbone gave me was https://bukkit.atlassian.net/secure/Dashboard.jspa
#2105 [20:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Players enter a ticket from somewhere, with their problem on it, and someone over the internet comes and livechats with them, helping them out. Kinda like this, except official.
#2106 [20:34] <Marc_IRL> CrusaderDeleters: Yeah, but Blizzard has a crap ton of people who can do customer service for them. Yesterday, I spent an hour PMing a guy here, meanwhile I could have answered 50 emails. I hope we never have live help like that.
#2107 [20:34] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2107 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Ech.
#2108 [20:34] <Marc_IRL> We have 5 CS people right now, and that should be enough to handle our incoming tickets. The only issue we have right now is the pending workload, which will be taken care of in the next month or two.
#2109 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> three month wait. c:
#2110 [20:35] <Marc_IRL> Two month wait :p
#2111 [20:35] <Marc_IRL> Once we execute our plan, it'll be more like 0-3 day wait
#2112 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Imagine this place being the official Customer service for most things.
#2113 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> How long does it take though to get from a two month to a 1.5 month wait?
#2114 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Too bad we won't be able to help anymore. :c
#2115 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I missed seeing tech geeks outwit me, and noobs not knowing what to do.
#2116 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> I will miss*
#2117 [20:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Marc, automated customer service?
#2118 [20:37] <GreyVulpine> There's only so much automation can solve.
#2119 [20:37] <Marc_IRL> hold that thought, brb
#2120 [20:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Unfortunately.
#2121 [20:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Voice input is the closest we will ever be to human commands directed toward computers.
#2122 [20:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Imagine attempting text. "u wil b at mi haus at 7. k"
#2123 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> *twitch*
#2124 [20:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Exactly.
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#2126 [20:42] <Marc_IRL> Oh, balls. The questions I was being asked are gone, now that I've refreshed the page.
#2127 [20:43] <CrusaderDeleters> [20:36] CrusaderDeleters Marc, automated customer service?
#2128 [20:43] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: it's not about how long it'll take to get from 2 months to 1.5 months, it's about -how- we kill the backlog, and if we have enough people after that. We have a plan for the backlog, and as for incoming tickets, we're about breaking even right now. So, we'll be good once that's dealt with.
#2129 [20:43] <Marc_IRL> CrusaderDeleters: There are no plans for us to have automated customer service
#2130 [20:44] <Marc_IRL> And that public issue tracker is to track issues, and have the devs fix them, not to offer individual tech support
#2131 [20:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol. It was a guess to what you had. c:
#2132 [20:44] <Marc_IRL> Honestly, it'll probably be hiring a few temps
#2133 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> So if it takes two months to make 1/2 a month headway in to the backlog, that's around 8 months until the headway is cleared
#2134 [20:44] <Marc_IRL> For a few weeks, and then we'll be good
#2135 [20:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Too bad I aint 18, or I would apply. :c
#2136 [20:45] <Marc_IRL> Right now, we're about breaking even, which is why our ETA is never. Hence, temps.
#2137 [20:45] <Marc_IRL> There won't be an application process. We'd probably just use a temp agency, quietly have some extra help, and then they'll go away.
#2138 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> We dealt with somebody like that on Mojang's behalf about a year ago
#2139 [20:46] <Marc_IRL> Anyway, this is all behind the scenes stuff, and none of it is nailed down right now, so don't quote me on it. All people need to know is we're in a good position with support finally, and when we get a bit of extra help, we'll be a pretty normal support center.
#2140 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Is there anyone in-house who's aware of the Java 7 issue, that's affecting everyone because their system tells them to update to Java 7?
#2141 [20:48] <Marc_IRL> Explain the java 7 issue. I'm talking to dinnerbone right now.
#2142 [20:48] <CrusaderDeleters> In classic, java 7 usually doesn't let the user connect to servers.
#2143 [20:49] <Marc_IRL> Classic only?
#2144 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> Java 7 defaults to using IPv6 for communication if it's available, which causes minecraft to fail when they try to log in or update.
#2145 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Never seen a problem in Premium, but I have barely tested 7 on it.
#2146 [20:49] <Marc_IRL> ...people play classic?
#2147 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> Not classic, although that is affectd too. This is with premium users
#2148 [20:49] <Marc_IRL> Buy the damn game!
#2149 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> 7's a regular problem on premium as well
#2150 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#2151 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> I do play classic.
#2152 [20:49] <Marc_IRL> WHY
#2153 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid CrusaderDeleters
#2154 [20:49] <CrusaderDeleters> It's fun.
#2155 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> Why? Because Java 7 communicates "by default" with IPv6 instead of IPv4 as Java 6 used to to.
#2156 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> IPv6 is a stupid creation.
#2157 [20:50] <Marc_IRL> I have never found classic to be fun, and I've been playing since 2010
#2158 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Just needa find the right servers, and the right people. c:
#2159 [20:50] <Marc_IRL> So, this is or is not affecting the main game as well?
#2160 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> it is
#2161 [20:50] <CrusaderDeleters> only login.
#2162 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> If IPv6 is not available on a computer system then Java 7 will use IPv4, but if IPv6 is available as it is on many newer computer systems, Java 6 tried to use IPv6 to communicate with minecraft.net and fails.
#2163 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Or
#2164 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> That
#2165 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> CrusaderDeleters: Shut up.
#2166 [20:51] <DiskDaemon> The main game is affected, premium.
#2167 [20:51] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Get this thread over to dinnerbone http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#2168 [20:51] <DiskDaemon> That diagnoses and provides solutions
#2169 [20:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Who is dinnerbone?
#2170 [20:52] <CrusaderDeleters> LE name sounds familiar./
#2171 [20:52] <Marc_IRL> Minecraft dev
#2172 [20:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#2173 [20:52] <Marc_IRL> One of the four bukkit guys we picked up
#2174 [20:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Nice.
#2175 [20:52] <Marc_IRL> He's been the most public in changing things recently. Lots of little fixes.
#2176 [20:53] <CrusaderDeleters> I wish I could work for mojang. :c Mojang is my favorite company. :D
#2177 [20:54] <Marc_IRL> Me too!
#2178 [20:54] <Marc_IRL> He wants to know if it's an issue with Minecraft itself or just the launcher
#2179 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> The launcher, because the news section of the launcher says: <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>
#2180 [20:55] <Marc_IRL> So, like, a connection problem with the launcher pulling in the tumblr page? Or the login info too?
#2181 [20:56] <DiskDaemon> People cannot login, so they come here for help. When they have that HTML code in their news section, it's guaranteed to be caused by Java 7 trying to communicate using IPv6 instead of IPv4
#2182 [20:56] <CrusaderDeleters> I wish minecraft login was a little prettier. :c I liked pre-beta-1.3 launcher moar.
#2183 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: So it affects the launcher both in accessing the tumbler page, and in logging the person in.
#2184 [20:57] <Marc_IRL> gotcha
#2185 [20:57] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, the login page isn't too pretty, but I think it's low on the priority list
#2186 [21:00] <Wug> generally, if the client shows an error message, its the computer configurations fault
#2187 [21:01] <Wug> the client is fairly robust
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#2189 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> Now IPv6 isn't the problem itself, that is what the internt moved to officially on 6 June. The issue is that minecraft.net doesn't seem to know how to communicate with IPv6 connections
#2190 [21:01] * mikeyz [mikeyz@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2191 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> Which explains why that minecraft thread was posted on 7 June.
#2192 [21:01] <mikeyz> hello
#2193 [21:01] <CrusaderDeleters> wait, internet changed to ipv6? :I
#2194 [21:01] <Marc_IRL> Even I knew that!
#2195 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_IPv6_Day_and_World_IPv6_Launch_Day
#2196 [21:02] <CrusaderDeleters> I did not, I don't pay attention to this stuff.
#2197 [21:02] <mikeyz> ipv6 is too complicated
#2198 [21:02] <CrusaderDeleters> I haven't even begun to learn IPv4
#2199 [21:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Still too busy playing minecraft!
#2200 [21:03] <mikeyz> plus its really expensive to change current infrastructure
#2201 [21:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Especially to all machines.
#2202 [21:03] <mikeyz> can i have a list of bot commands?
#2203 [21:03] <Wug> ipv6 was designed to be easy to implement
#2204 [21:03] <Wug> mikeyz: if one existed, maybe
#2205 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> mikeyz: For which bot?
#2206 [21:03] <mikeyz> it does
#2207 [21:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Why didn't they just make a higher-security internet while they are at it?
#2208 [21:03] <Marc_IRL> So I guess the client isn't a thing that we can automatically update, for some reason
#2209 [21:04] <mikeyz> AuBot i guess
#2210 [21:04] <Wug> !help
#2211 [21:04] <mikeyz> !login
#2212 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> There might be if the launcher can tell Java to force things back to IPv4. That would fix the problem, but also leave the minecraft.net site in the stoneage.
#2213 [21:04] <Wug> Marc_IRL: does minecraft.net have an ipv6 address
#2214 [21:05] <Wug> if it doesnt, tell mollstam it needs one
#2215 [21:05] <mikeyz> DiskDaemon, all server addresses are in v4
#2216 [21:05] <Wug> you can get them real cheap. theres zillions of them
#2217 [21:05] <lostson> my sons trying to play minecraft - i have installed the openjdk-7-re and the icedteas6plugin but the applet won't start. i get a flash of a screen then it's white. can anyone help?
#2218 [21:05] <Wug> mikeyz: not all, just most
#2219 [21:05] <mikeyz> you sure it switches over?
#2220 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> mikeyz: June 6 is when the internet officially switched over to IPv6
#2221 [21:05] <mikeyz> "the internet"
#2222 [21:05] <mikeyz> thats a good idea
#2223 [21:05] <Wug> lostson: minecraft in browser doesnt work on linux
#2224 [21:06] * Wug still calls it beta because hes old
#2224 [21:06] <mikeyz> wug you know anything about bukkit programming?
#2225 [21:06] <Wug> (and release sounds weird)
#2226 [21:06] <Wug> mikeyz: a little
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#2228 [21:06] <Wug> lostson: at least classic doesnt. not sure if beta does. you should use the download client for beta. If you're trying to play classic, you might try the WoM client, which is unofficial and not supported.
#2229 [21:07] <mikeyz> any idea how do you involke a poation throw down event at a certan location?
#2230 [21:07] <mikeyz> the #bukkitdev thread is dorment at the moment
#2231 [21:07] <Wug> no, I dont know how to involke a poation throw event at a certan location
#2232 [21:07] <mikeyz> ok thenn
#2233 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Classic can still work when you use Java 6 - but you then need to ensure that Java 7 is no longer installed too.
#2234 [21:08] <mikeyz> hame you made any plugins? or just used the servers before?
#2235 [21:08] <Wug> DiskDaemon: classic hasnt worked on linux for forever
#2236 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> My suggestion for Classic is to wait a little bit because I hear that Minecraft will be having free play part built in to it
#2237 [21:08] <Wug> mikeyz: ive done research about them but ive never actually written one
#2238 [21:08] <mikeyz> ok
#2239 [21:08] <mikeyz> fair enought
#2240 [21:08] <Wug> the tutorial included writing a hashmap of booleans
#2241 [21:08] <Wug> I got that far in and abandoned it as being crap
#2242 [21:08] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Demo mode will be built in, with a limited game time, I think
#2243 [21:08] <mikeyz> this one: http://wiki.bukkit.org/Plugin_Tutorial
#2244 [21:09] <mikeyz> do you already understand java?
#2245 [21:09] <Wug> public Map<Player, Boolean> pluginEnabled = new HashMap<Player, Boolean>();
#2246 [21:09] * Wug shudders
#2246 [21:09] <mikeyz> haha
#2247 [21:09] <Wug> oh the humanity
#2248 [21:09] <Wug> oh the overhead
#2249 [21:09] <mikeyz> i like peogramming
#2250 [21:09] <mikeyz> programming*
#2251 [21:09] <lostson> son can't play minecraft - i installed openjdk-7-re and icedtea6plugin but all i get is a flash and then white screen. any suggestions? thanks.
#2252 [21:10] <Wug> lostson: classic or release
#2253 [21:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh marc.
#2254 [21:10] <CrusaderDeleters> You know what is funny?
#2255 [21:10] <mikeyz> what about the crash .txt
#2256 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Sammy HEY GUYS I KNOW HOW TO GET MINECRAFT ALPHA! Pucky_OFF I KNOW HOW TO GET MINECRAFT ALPHA! yawn-_-
#2257 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> CrusaderDeleters Orly.
#2258 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Sammy Here's how. Get a .minecraft folder that is alpha kind. Then go to your appdata (%appdata%) folder. After that go to your roaming folder. Next delete your beta .minecraft folder or 1.2.5 folder. Last put your alpha .minecraft folder in your roaming folder. Run Minecraft and enjoy! You can find the alpha .minecraft folder from your friend or from a website. CrusaderDeleters did...
#2259 [21:11] <CrusaderDeleters> ...you even hear what i said?!? YOU GUYS DON'T LISTEN TO ME! I'M OUT OF HERE!
#2260 [21:11] <lostson> wug: not sure just tried to join yesterday and play from brower how can i tell
#2261 [21:12] <Wug> lostson: what page do you go to to play
#2262 [21:12] <lostson> wug: minecraft.net
#2263 [21:13] <Wug> lostson: what URL exactly
#2264 [21:14] <lostson> wug: www.minecraft.net then it jumps to www.minecraft.net/play
#2265 [21:14] <mikeyz> wug how much are you on this help chat
#2266 [21:14] <Wug> mikeyz: I have more than 99% uptime in the past year
#2267 [21:15] <mikeyz> ive seen you here when i helped out like 2 hrs ago
#2268 [21:15] <mikeyz> months
#2269 [21:15] <mikeyz> why?
#2270 [21:15] <mikeyz> are you getting paid?
#2271 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> many of us live here in this channel
#2272 [21:15] * j4mie [j4mie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2273 [21:15] <Marc_IRL> It's fun to help people!
#2274 [21:15] <mikeyz> that would be nice, free food
#2275 [21:15] <Wug> lostson: thats the released version. use the download client.
#2276 [21:15] <Wug> !client
#2277 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> me stabs Wug
#2278 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> er
#2279 [21:16] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2280 [21:16] * GreyVulpine stabs Wug
#2280 [21:16] <Wug> me hugs GreyVulpine
#2281 [21:16] <TheNytangel> me laughs at GreyVulpine
#2282 [21:16] <mikeyz> !pastebin
#2283 [21:16] <TheNytangel> ?? pastebin
#2284 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> No Wugbot, and no beer makes for something something..
#2285 [21:16] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2286 [21:16] <Wug> hug(stab(Wug)) == Wug;
#2287 [21:16] <mikeyz> now its coming back to me
#2288 [21:16] <Wug> they are inverse functions
#2289 [21:16] * chaosboy [chaosboy@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2290 [21:16] <TheNytangel> me pushes the WUG button
#2291 [21:16] <TheNytangel> :P
#2292 [21:17] <mikeyz> wug why are to on this channel so much?
#2293 [21:17] * Wug pushes the "send automated attack drones to TheNytangel's house" button
#2293 [21:17] <Wug> mikeyz: minecraft is something of a hobby.
#2294 [21:17] <TheNytangel> Wug: they don't know where I live
#2295 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> wug: Marc was asking before about the top three troubleshooting issues that are seen here. What would your top three be?
#2296 [21:17] <lostson> wug: sorry for a stupid question but my wife tried to set this up for my son...i assume i can get this download from the home page?
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#2298 [21:18] <Wug> Wug: Im not breaking this combo
#2299 [21:18] <TheNytangel> DiskDaemon: one is probably upgrading the graphics card drivers ;)
#2300 [21:18] <mikeyz> !client
#2301 [21:18] <mikeyz> up there
#2302 [21:18] <Wug> lostson: just use the link for your operating system
#2303 [21:18] <mikeyz> just download the correct link
#2304 [21:18] <mikeyz> are you running windows?
#2305 [21:18] <Wug> DiskDaemon: I've told him already
#2306 [21:19] <Wug> mikeyz: I think hes on linux. judging by the use of the icedtea plugin
#2307 [21:19] <mikeyz> this channel is a good use of 7 hours of my day
#2308 [21:19] * DiskDaemon uses scrollback - ahh :)
#2308 [21:19] <mikeyz> yeah
#2309 [21:19] <lostson> wug: ive got unbuntu by recommendation is that linux?
#2310 [21:19] <mikeyz> i like and hate it at the same time
#2311 [21:19] <Wug> java comes with a browser plugin on windows
#2312 [21:19] <Wug> lostson: yes it is
#2313 [21:19] <mikeyz> yes thats linux
#2314 [21:20] <mikeyz> wug what are you running?
#2315 [21:20] <lostson> wug: thanks for your help
#2316 [21:20] <Wug> DiskDaemon: 1) graphics card drivers 2) borked mod installs and 3) issues with java
#2317 [21:21] <Wug> java issues are most commonly: 1) use of 32 bit java on a 64 bit system 2) (general failure) something a clean install fixes 3) weird crashes
#2318 [21:22] <Wug> 3) includes ! in username and the people who for some reason cant launch from the client and must launch with the command line
#2319 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Can't connect to minecraft.net, Black screen, video drivers.
#2320 [21:22] <Wug> I lumped cant connect to minecraft.net into general failure
#2321 [21:22] <Wug> since a reinstall usually fixes it
#2322 [21:23] <Wug> unless its a hosts file modification, which is a symptom of YHFDDS
#2323 [21:23] <Wug> (yar har fiddle dee dee syndrome)
#2324 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> /ctcp person time
#2325 [21:23] <Wug> ^ or that
#2326 [21:23] <Wug> or that one time the ssl certificate expired
#2327 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> relevant knowledge.
#2328 [21:23] <Wug> that one isnt that common
#2329 [21:23] <TheNytangel> It didn't work, whatever it does
#2330 [21:23] <TheNytangel> :P
#2331 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Firewall/router issue.
#2332 [21:24] <mikeyz> wug what are you running?
#2333 [21:24] <mikeyz> windows or linuz
#2334 [21:24] <Wug> Linux Wuggigus 3.2.0-25-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 23 20:30:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
#2335 [21:24] <Wug> ^ uname /a
#2336 [21:24] <Wug> -a *
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#2338 [21:25] <mikeyz> custom ubuntu?
#2339 [21:25] <TheNytangel> Pfft
#2340 [21:25] <Wug> no, just regular 12.04
#2341 [21:25] <mikeyz> oh ok
#2342 [21:25] <TheNytangel> Windows Vista? CTCP, who do you think I am?
#2343 [21:25] <mikeyz> i cant get java installed on 32 bit computers of ubutu
#2344 [21:26] <mikeyz> i figured it out and then forgot......
#2345 [21:26] <Wug> You are being CTCP flooded from TheNytangel, ignoring *!*@65.19.250.8
#2346 [21:26] <Wug> I dont know how to undo that
#2347 [21:26] * Wortho27 [Wortho27@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2348 [21:26] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2349 [21:26] <mikeyz> haha
#2350 [21:26] <Wug> I hope you flood out
#2351 [21:26] * Evixion [Evixion@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2352 [21:27] <TheNytangel> I live in the middle of North America, there are usually no floods unless it is raining really hard and we get a flash flood, or there was a lot of snow the previous winter and it all melted and.. yeah
#2353 [21:27] <mikeyz> yeah that was bads
#2354 [21:30] <mikeyz> anyway,,,
#2355 [21:30] <mikeyz> i used this tutorial for java install
#2356 [21:30] <mikeyz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
#2357 [21:30] <mikeyz> the custom one for java 6 jdk
#2358 [21:31] <mikeyz> i take it it worked.
#2359 [21:31] <mikeyz> tyay
#2360 [21:31] <mikeyz> wug how did you get mod?
#2361 [21:32] <mikeyz> mod/op
#2362 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> It was punishment for helping others.
#2363 [21:32] <mikeyz> hmhmmh
#2364 [21:32] <mikeyz> thats fair
#2365 [21:35] <mikeyz> how does one change their nickname>
#2366 [21:35] <Wortho27> ./nick (name)
#2367 [21:35] <Wortho27> without the .
#2368 [21:35] <Wortho27> @mikeyz
#2369 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> nicknames can't be changed at this stage,but they're working on that for a future thing
#2370 [21:36] <Wortho27> you silly
#2371 [21:36] <mikeyz> yeah figured
#2372 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> Err, Minecraft names can't be changed. IRC ones are easy to :)
#2373 [21:36] <mikeyz> i was talking about IRC
#2374 [21:36] <Wortho27> ./nick (name)
#2375 [21:36] <mikeyz> ok
#2376 [21:36] <TheNytangel> :o
#2377 [21:36] * TheNytangel bows down
#2377 [21:37] <TheNytangel> Lol
#2378 [21:37] <Wug> lol
#2379 [21:37] <Wug> mikeyz: GreyVulpine enslaved me
#2380 [21:38] <Wug> I am blessed and cursed by the power of my @
#2381 [21:38] <mikeyz> mikey dosent care
#2382 [21:38] * Wortho27 hits Marc_IRL
#2382 [21:38] <mikeyz> how do you do that
#2383 [21:38] <Wug> Marc_IRL: in general, that is not a good idea.
#2384 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> I'm @ in a few channel, - damn straight about the blessing and a curse situation
#2385 [21:39] <mikeyz> how do you do TheNytangel bows down type thing
#2386 [21:39] <Wortho27> do /me
#2387 [21:39] <Wortho27> ./me slaps a sausage
#2388 [21:39] * mikeyz dosent care
#2388 [21:39] * Wortho27 slaps a sausage
#2388 [21:39] <mikeyz> hah
#2389 [21:39] <mikeyz> nice
#2390 [21:40] <mikeyz> ??<< pastebin
#2391 [21:40] <mikeyz> twhat is that commands?
#2392 [21:40] <Wortho27> what
#2393 [21:40] <mikeyz> ?? <<
#2394 [21:40] <DiskDaemon> We even had someone come in here yesterday called Smitty, and the bot autokciked them with a message about Mitt Romney impersonation. Funny, but not exactly a good idea
#2395 [21:40] <mikeyz> tor something like that
#2396 [21:40] <mikeyz> <<??pastebin
#2397 [21:40] <mikeyz> ????
#2398 [21:40] <DiskDaemon> ??> mikeyz pastebin
#2399 [21:41] <mikeyz> its so that you can try out commands without clogging up the IRC
#2400 [21:41] <VoxelHead> mikeyz: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2401 [21:41] <Wortho27> DiskDaemon: i lolled at that
#2402 [21:41] <mikeyz> ??< pastebing
#2403 [21:41] <mikeyz> ??<pastebin
#2404 [21:41] <Wortho27> mikeyz
#2405 [21:41] <mikeyz> yes?
#2406 [21:41] <Wortho27> how old are you o_O
#2407 [21:41] <mikeyz> 14
#2408 [21:41] <mikeyz> why
#2409 [21:41] <Wortho27> well
#2410 [21:41] <mikeyz> is that a problem?
#2411 [21:41] <Wortho27> spamming six hundred ?'s in a line is kind of
#2412 [21:41] <Wortho27> well
#2413 [21:42] <Marc_IRL> HOW CAN YOU TELL IM 14???????????????????????
#2414 [21:42] <Wug> because of the ?s
#2415 [21:42] * DiskDaemon applauds VoxelHead
#2415 [21:42] <Wug> its funny because I didnt read the context
#2416 [21:42] <Wortho27> >is14
#2417 [21:42] * mikeyz dosent like ridicule
#2417 [21:42] <Wortho27> >use ?????s
#2418 [21:42] <Wortho27> >profit green text story
#2419 [21:43] <Wortho27> sorry mikey
#2420 [21:43] <mikeyz> haha
#2421 [21:43] <mikeyz> ??< pastebin
#2422 [21:43] <mikeyz> there it is
#2423 [21:43] <Wortho27> what?
#2424 [21:43] <mikeyz> ??< commands
#2425 [21:43] <Wortho27> how does "??< pastebin" solve anything
#2426 [21:43] <mikeyz> ??< index
#2427 [21:43] <Wortho27> what are you trying to do
#2428 [21:43] <mikeyz> ?? index
#2429 [21:43] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#2430 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> The use of ??< prevents the contents from being seen by everyone else here
#2431 [21:44] <mikeyz> it dosent clog up the IRC channel...
#2432 [21:44] <mikeyz> yeah
#2433 [21:44] <mikeyz> that
#2434 [21:44] <mikeyz> ?? os
#2435 [21:44] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#2436 [21:44] <Wortho27> i see
#2437 [21:44] <mikeyz> ??< wireshark
#2438 [21:44] * moiracookie [moiracookie@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2439 [21:44] <moiracookie> hello
#2440 [21:44] <mikeyz> hello
#2441 [21:45] <mikeyz> ??< virus/avira
#2442 [21:45] <moiracookie> i doubt it
#2443 [21:45] <moiracookie> ti cant sign onto the server though
#2444 [21:45] <moiracookie> =.=
#2445 [21:45] <mikeyz> ??< virus
#2446 [21:45] <Wortho27> I can't wait for the MineZ mod to comeout
#2447 [21:45] <Wortho27> looks amazing
#2448 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> mikeyz: Read them all at http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#2449 [21:45] <mikeyz> what server?
#2450 [21:46] <mikeyz> theres a list here>> http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/
#2451 [21:46] <mikeyz> but thats good too
#2452 [21:46] <mikeyz> ??< account
#2453 [21:47] <mikeyz> anyway
#2454 [21:47] <moiracookie> an smp server...i keep getting these internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException error messages
#2455 [21:48] <mikeyz> i beleve thats because of server overload?
#2456 [21:48] <moiracookie> why?
#2457 [21:48] <mikeyz> or massive server ping
#2458 [21:48] <moiracookie> hmmm
#2459 [21:48] <moiracookie> but why just me
#2460 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> moiracookie: Have someone on the server selete your playername.dat file from the world/players/ folder. That file may be corrupt.
#2461 [21:48] <mikeyz> like your users connect but they dont get that handshake packet
#2462 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> *delete that playername.dat file
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#2464 [21:49] <moiracookie> the server person isn't on yet
#2465 [21:49] <moiracookie> *owner
#2466 [21:49] <mikeyz> good point
#2467 [21:49] * mikeyz slaps himself
#2467 [21:49] <moiracookie> so nothing i can do on my end?
#2468 [21:49] <moiracookie> if not its fine
#2469 [21:49] <mikeyz> does everyone an op here use linux?
#2470 [21:49] <moiracookie> im sorry to disturb you guys
#2471 [21:50] <mikeyz> or alot of you?
#2472 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> I'll see if any further info turns up in searching, but not a lot more at this stage
#2473 [21:50] <mikeyz> not a problem
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#2475 [21:50] <mikeyz> ??< win/64bitjava
#2476 [21:50] <moiracookie> the thing is though at every server i sign up this error keeps occuring
#2477 [21:51] <moiracookie> so I am thinking it's on my end
#2478 [21:51] <mikeyz> yeah that might be the problem
#2479 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> moiracookie: Someone else who was using tekkit had that same problem, and fixed it removing everything related to it
#2480 [21:52] <mikeyz> whats the server?
#2481 [21:52] <moiracookie> i dont use tekkit
#2482 [21:52] <moiracookie> its mc.digtopia.net
#2483 [21:52] <moiracookie> the only mod i use is optifine
#2484 [21:52] <mikeyz> that shouldnt be a problem
#2485 [21:52] <mikeyz> i use it
#2486 [21:52] <moiracookie> i know
#2487 [21:52] <moiracookie> that's what i dont understand
#2488 [21:53] <moiracookie> it was fine a few days ago...
#2489 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> When did the problem first occur?
#2490 [21:53] <moiracookie> but now it doesnt work
#2491 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> has anything been updated since then, like java or something else?
#2492 [21:53] <moiracookie> see i cant get access to the new java version
#2493 [21:53] <moiracookie> my computer cant seem to download it
#2494 [21:54] <mikeyz> works fine for me
#2495 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> Waht version of java does this show that you are using?
#2496 [21:54] <moiracookie> so what I did was that I just downgrade and it worked for one day
#2497 [21:54] <moiracookie> im using java 6 update 33
#2498 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> In your Java panel (found in the Control Panel) what other Java's are listed in Java tab when you select the View button?
#2499 [21:55] <moiracookie> can you tell me exaclt where my java panel is
#2500 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> Start menu -> Control Panel -> Search for Java -> open Java -> Java tab -> View button
#2501 [21:56] <moiracookie> ok i have the panel open
#2502 [21:56] <moiracookie> what am i looking for again
#2503 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> Java tab and the View button
#2504 [21:57] <moiracookie> ok
#2505 [21:57] <moiracookie> what am i looking for...
#2506 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> Youa re looking to tell us all the different versions that appear in there
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#2508 [21:58] <Wug> GreyVulpine: <3
#2509 [21:58] <mikeyz> wug made his own bot?
#2510 [21:58] <moiracookie> it says 1.6 platform, product: 1.6.0_33
#2511 [21:58] <Wug> no, Kealper runs WugBot
#2512 [21:58] <Wug> thats why its called WugBot
#2513 [21:59] <Wug> because its Kealpers
#2514 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> There's not more than one listed in there?
#2515 [21:59] <mikeyz> thats a program i presume?
#2516 [21:59] <mikeyz> why?
#2517 [21:59] <moiracookie> nope
#2518 [21:59] <Kealper> Wug is 100% correct
#2519 [21:59] <moiracookie> just that one
#2520 [21:59] <Wug> (im joking)
#2521 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> That's good to confirm
#2522 [21:59] <moiracookie> is that the reason for the problem?
#2523 [21:59] <Wug> ;host ryzorg
#2524 [21:59] <WugBot> Hostname of ryzorg is: cpe-72-227-87-2.maine.res.rr.com
#2525 [21:59] <Wug> ;module load metrics
#2526 [21:59] <WugBot> Module not found. Perhaps it isn't loaded?
#2527 [21:59] * mikeyz is confused o.0
#2527 [21:59] <Wug> hmm
#2528 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> You can close that panel off now. It seems that your Java is fine there
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#2530 [22:00] <mikeyz> how you have your own bot
#2531 [22:00] <moiracookie> so my java is fine?
#2532 [22:00] <Blood_Mind> hey, im back
#2533 [22:00] <moiracookie> wb blood
#2534 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> It looks like it. You can go to comfirm though at http://javatester.org/version.html
#2535 [22:00] <Wug> ;module metrics load
#2536 [22:00] <WugBot> Module already loaded.
#2537 [22:00] <moiracookie> but that site requires the latest java
#2538 [22:01] <moiracookie> the new version of java when i install it, it says that it cannot create creative machine
#2539 [22:01] <moiracookie> so it shuts down
#2540 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> It doesn't require the latest java. That site works perfectly fine with Java 6, unless there was a problem when it was installed
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#2542 [22:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk
#2543 [22:01] <CrusaderDeleters> It fails with Java 6.
#2544 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: I'm using it with Java 6 right now
#2545 [22:02] <CrusaderDeleters> You know why? It's looking for java 6 u 30.
#2546 [22:02] <CrusaderDeleters> The latest update of java 6 is 33.
#2547 [22:02] <CrusaderDeleters> it shows nothing for me too.
#2548 [22:02] <moiracookie> thats why I was confused too
#2549 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> Interesting - I'd better not update to the lastest version of 6 then.
#2550 [22:03] <mikeyz> does wugbot do anything for you?
#2551 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: Are you aware of some other site that can confirm that the lastest Java 6 is working?
#2552 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> WugBot is a robot.
#2553 [22:03] <moiracookie> so anyone know what i can do to solve the cannot create creative machine problem
#2554 [22:03] <mikeyz> can you do ?? scam
#2555 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> java.com should.
#2556 [22:03] <mikeyz> with him
#2557 [22:03] <mikeyz> ??< scam
#2558 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> cannot crete creative machine? I thought it was a socket timeout error.
#2559 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> The creative machine indicates it's definately a Java issue.
#2560 [22:03] <moiracookie> no i mean with the new version
#2561 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Creative?
#2562 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Dufuq?
#2563 [22:04] <Blood_Mind> hey Saders
#2564 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> I thought it was Virtual
#2565 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Herro blood.
#2566 [22:04] <mikeyz> have him start with command line?
#2567 [22:04] <Blood_Mind> *hello
#2568 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Herro. c:
#2569 [22:04] <Blood_Mind> lol
#2570 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Mikeyz.
#2571 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll give you a small set of instructions.
#2572 [22:04] <mikeyz> can post when errors start being thrown?
#2573 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> moiracookie: This error? "Cannot not create virtual machine error "
#2574 [22:04] <moiracookie> when i downloaded the new version...and yes virtual machine, I apologize, it says it cannot create the virtual creative machine or something along those lines
#2575 [22:04] <moiracookie> yes...
#2576 [22:04] <CrusaderDeleters> wait
#2577 [22:05] <mikeyz> ok
#2578 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Nevermind, you don't need help, do you?
#2579 [22:05] <moiracookie> me?
#2580 [22:05] <mikeyz> me? no
#2581 [22:05] <moiracookie> i do...
#2582 [22:05] <lostson> using ubuntu...downloaded openjdk-7-re and icedtea6plugin...applet won't start..i was told to use the download instead..tried downloading but none of the files are executables and won't run when i select them...very frustrated....not a linux person...got ubuntu as a recommendation for my kids computer cuz its suppose to be stable but it won't run anything
#2583 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Moir
#2584 [22:05] <moiracookie> yes deleters?
#2585 [22:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll give you a small set of instructions
#2586 [22:05] <moiracookie> ok
#2587 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Open up notepad. Type "java -version", in a new line: "
#2588 [22:06] <langkid1> herrro
#2589 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> woops
#2590 [22:06] <CrusaderDeleters> "pause"
#2591 [22:06] <moiracookie> ?
#2592 [22:06] <Blood_Mind> it's not the same comming from you
#2593 [22:06] <Blood_Mind> XD
#2594 [22:06] <mikeyz> press *windows* + r
#2595 [22:06] <mikeyz> the type java -version
#2596 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> no
#2597 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> moiracookie: Can you run a dxdiag for us, and give us the results?
#2598 [22:07] <mikeyz> why not?
#2599 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> ??> moiracookie win/dxdiag
#2600 [22:07] <VoxelHead> moiracookie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2601 [22:07] <VoxelHead> moiracookie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2602 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> windows key + r, cmd, then java -version
#2603 [22:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Mike, the problem is, the cmd screen just flashes in and out.
#2604 [22:07] <moiracookie> k slow down i have to go use the restroom
#2605 [22:07] <moiracookie> brb
#2606 [22:08] <lostson> using ubuntu...downloaded openjdk-7-re and icedtea6plugin...applet won't start..i was told to use the download instead..tried downloading but none of the files are executables and won't run when i select them...very frustrated....not a linux person...got ubuntu from recommendation can anyone help?
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#2608 [22:08] <mikeyz> ??< java/version
#2609 [22:08] <mikeyz> i know linux
#2610 [22:08] <CrusaderDeleters> ??> java/version
#2611 [22:08] <mikeyz> kinda
#2612 [22:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I should make "CrusBot"
#2613 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> When moiracookie comes back I'd like to find out if it was the x86 or x64 of Java 7 that was installed, when she got the virtual machine error
#2614 [22:09] <mikeyz> lostson can you open up terminal?
#2615 [22:09] <CrusaderDeleters> I'd like to find out the version.
#2616 [22:10] <lostson> mikeyz terminal? you mean the screen when you select browser play?
#2617 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> If she has an x64 system, and she went to download Java 7 using anything other than Internet Explorer, she'll have only the x86 version of Java on there instead
#2618 [22:10] <mikeyz> no, go into search, on the top of the media bar on the left, select that and type into the search ter
#2619 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> Using the auto install method that's used by default on the website, of course there
#2620 [22:10] <CrusaderDeleters> DiskDaemon: ping her with: "windows key + r, enter cmd, then in there, java -version." after finding the system bit size.
#2621 [22:11] <mikeyz> lostson, you should see terminal
#2622 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> I use oracle.
#2623 [22:11] <Blood_Mind> hey Crusade, wanna do this tomorrow?
#2624 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Sure.
#2625 [22:11] <Blood_Mind> k, see ya
#2626 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Cya.
#2627 [22:11] <DiskDaemon> Easy now, she's still on the loo :)
#2628 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#2629 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> I say "The Crapper"
#2630 [22:11] <mikeyz> wub
#2631 [22:11] <CrusaderDeleters> How is it that "Crap" became a swear word?
#2632 [22:11] <mikeyz> wug
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#2634 [22:12] <lostson> mikeyz; sorry to be such a novice but what is the media bar?
#2635 [22:12] <Blood_Mind> oh, and i forgot to get your name again, i forgot :)
#2636 [22:12] <mikeyz> do you see that bar on the left?
#2637 [22:12] <Blood_Mind> Sade
#2638 [22:12] <mikeyz> with recent applications?
#2639 [22:13] <mikeyz> if you dont take your browser out of maximised mode
#2640 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> This seems to be the best resource ou troubleshooting virtual machine issues http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1223833-java-cannot-create-virtual-machine/
#2641 [22:13] <mikeyz> WUG
#2642 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> It seems to be virus/malware cleanup time
#2643 [22:13] <Blood_Mind> hey Crusade, what was ur name?
#2644 [22:14] <mikeyz> ??< linux/ubuntu/java
#2645 [22:14] <mikeyz> lostson, press *windows* + r
#2646 [22:15] <moiracookie> ok uhmm should i reinstall the java 7 update 5 to see the problem?
#2647 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> moiracookie: This seems to be the best resource ou troubleshooting virtual machine issues http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1223833-java-cannot-create-virtual-machine/
#2648 [22:15] <mikeyz> starting my ubuntu VM
#2649 [22:15] <lostson> mikeyz the bar (dash) that list your folders and diff software you have installed like libreoffice writer? there's no search listed in there
#2650 [22:16] <moiracookie> ok i have anti virus and firewall
#2651 [22:16] <mikeyz> im starting my ubuntu machine to walk you through it
#2652 [22:16] <lostson> mikeyz got it finally had to hit the dash home button at top typed ter and got three icons
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#2654 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> I'd suggest removing Java 6 (that's not helping you at this stage) and install Java 7. If you get the same virtual machine issue, follow the cleanup procedure.
#2655 [22:17] <mikeyz> yeah
#2656 [22:17] <mikeyz> did you get into terminal?
#2657 [22:17] <moiracookie> ok
#2658 [22:17] <mikeyz> command line?
#2659 [22:18] <lostson> mikeyz yes there is an icon for terminal, uxterm and xterm
#2660 [22:18] <moiracookie> should i go into safe mode as well
#2661 [22:18] <mikeyz> lostson ok click on terminal
#2662 [22:18] <lostson> mikeyz done
#2663 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> After removing 6 and installing 7, yes. Follow the forum thread instructions from safe mode
#2664 [22:19] <mikeyz> now type in java -version
#2665 [22:19] <moiracookie> ok
#2666 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> "safe mode with networking" so you can download malwarebytes without any potential issues occurring to it
#2667 [22:19] <moiracookie> ok
#2668 [22:20] <mikeyz> is it saying unknown command? lostson?>
#2669 [22:20] <mikeyz> fg
#2670 [22:20] <mikeyz> WUG
#2671 [22:21] <lostson> mikeyz openjdk icedtea6
#2672 [22:21] <mikeyz> lostson what about them
#2673 [22:21] <mikeyz> is it saying something like :lostson
#2674 [22:21] <mikeyz> java version "1.6.0_31"
#2675 [22:22] <mikeyz> disk
#2676 [22:22] <lostson> mikeyz _23
#2677 [22:22] <mikeyz> ok so it is installed
#2678 [22:22] <mikeyz> tgood
#2679 [22:22] <mikeyz> !client
#2680 [22:23] <mikeyz> download the second link and place on desktop
#2681 [22:23] <lostson> mikeyz i did that but after it downloaded i couldn't run any of the files i tried the lauchtester but i get an error that says it's not an executable
#2682 [22:24] <mikeyz> ok
#2683 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: If mooracookie comes back within the next half hour or so, I'm out for the moment getting some shopping done. Losing weight is good, buying pants is bad.
#2684 [22:24] <mikeyz> open up terminal
#2685 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#2686 [22:25] <mikeyz> chmod
#2687 [22:25] <lostson> done
#2688 [22:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Cya Mr. NoLongerFat. c:
#2689 [22:25] <mikeyz> now type: cd Desktop
#2690 [22:25] <mikeyz> its case sensitive
#2691 [22:25] <lostson> done
#2692 [22:26] <mikeyz> ok
#2693 [22:26] <mikeyz> is the minecraft .jar on the desktop?
#2694 [22:26] <mikeyz> wug
#2695 [22:26] <mikeyz> if not please move it to there
#2696 [22:27] <lostson> i deleted everything let me download it again and save it to desktop
#2697 [22:28] <mikeyz> o
#2698 [22:28] <mikeyz> ok
#2699 [22:29] <CrusaderDeleters> tips48: ohai
#2700 [22:30] <tips48> ohai
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#2702 [22:30] <lostson> mikeyz it's now in desktop
#2703 [22:31] <mikeyz> ok
#2704 [22:31] <mikeyz> now,
#2705 [22:32] <mikeyz> type java -jar minecraft.jar
#2706 [22:32] <mikeyz> in that same terminal that i have you ttype the other stuff
#2707 [22:33] <lostson> that seems to have done it the minecraft launcher opened up
#2708 [22:33] <lostson> let me try to login
#2709 [22:33] <mikeyz> ok
#2710 [22:34] <Wug> did I miss anything
#2711 [22:34] <Wug> was on phone
#2712 [22:34] <mikeyz> yes
#2713 [22:34] <mikeyz> i just helped a ubuntuer
#2714 [22:34] <CrusaderDeleters> c:
#2715 [22:34] <mikeyz> i just opened it up with command line if asked again
#2716 [22:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Mikeyz should teach me
#2717 [22:34] <Wug> yes wugbot does things for me
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#2719 [22:37] <mikeyz> did it work?
#2720 [22:37] <lostson> mikeyz-wug will i have to use this same procedure to open the game every time?
#2721 [22:37] <Wug> lostson: you should be able to right click the launcher and pick 'open with java'
#2722 [22:37] <lostson> mikeyz yes it did thanks see my questions please
#2723 [22:38] <mikeyz> try just double clicking it
#2724 [22:38] <mikeyz> else wug will help you
#2725 [22:38] <mikeyz> there is an easier way
#2726 [22:39] <mikeyz> just tell wug i used command line
#2727 [22:39] <Wug> mikeyz: I can read
#2728 [22:39] <mikeyz> thats good
#2729 [22:39] <Wug> :S
#2730 [22:39] <mikeyz> i have to go
#2731 [22:39] <mikeyz> make a bash or something
#2732 [22:40] <lostson> wug; still need help
#2733 [22:40] <Wug> lostson: did you read my last message
#2734 [22:41] * mikeyz is leaving
#2734 [22:41] <lostson> wug: i did that but i get an error.
#2735 [22:41] <Wug> what does it say
#2736 [22:41] <Wug> if its long post it on pastebin.com
#2737 [22:41] <lostson> wug: plus i had to double click the jar file and then hunt for the launcher in the the launcher file...i'm i missing something?
#2738 [22:42] <Wug> dont extract the jar file
#2739 [22:42] <Wug> just right click it and run with java
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#2743 [22:44] <mikeyz> wug whats the way to shutdown ubuntu from command line
#2744 [22:44] <mikeyz> shutdown -s -t -c?
#2745 [22:44] <lostson> wug it says it's not marked as executable
#2746 [22:44] <mikeyz> chmod FTW
#2747 [22:44] <mikeyz> ok im out
#2748 [22:44] <Wug> lostson: right click, properties
#2749 [22:44] <Wug> permissions tab, check the "allow execution" checkbox
#2750 [22:45] <Wug> or "mark as executable"
#2751 [22:45] <Wug> something of that ilk
#2752 [22:50] <lostson> wug: looks like that did it, im logging in and having my son try to create a world thanks for all your help....man that's was alot of work I hope he loves it
#2753 [22:51] <Wug> k
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#2756 [22:53] <stockdogg> i bought the game for my son, but it will not connect to the server to allow him to play
#2757 [22:53] <stockdogg> i bought the game for my son, but it will not connect to the server to allow him to play
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#2759 [22:54] <Wug> stockdogg: does this happen before or after logging in
#2760 [22:54] <stockdogg> it allows me to log into the site minecrat.net but the game will not load through either option
#2761 [22:55] <Wug> does your windows username have a ! in it
#2762 [22:56] <stockdogg> my husband wants me to ask if the game can be played with a in board graphics card
#2763 [22:56] <stockdogg> i am not sure about your question
#2764 [22:56] <geraldbrent> It can be played with integrated graphics.
#2765 [22:57] <stockdogg> ok, the it is something else. what are you asking about the ! in windows username
#2766 [22:57] <stockdogg> im not sure what you are referring to...
#2767 [22:58] <Wug> stockdogg: what username do you login to windows with
#2768 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> stockdogg: Strange and counterintuitive though it sounds, the login name for your computer can affect whether Miinecraft works or not. If that's causing the issue, there is a fix for it too.
#2769 [23:00] <stockdogg> yes it has a ! in it
#2770 [23:01] <stockdogg> stocker's! is the log in name
#2771 [23:01] <geraldbrent> Yeah, that would seem to be the problem.
#2772 [23:01] <Wug> stockdogg: ok, youre encountering a bug in java
#2773 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> stockdogg win/!
#2774 [23:01] <VoxelHead> stockdogg: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#2775 [23:01] <VoxelHead> stockdogg: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#2776 [23:01] <Wug> ^ do this
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#2778 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: Down from 116 to 102 size trousers. That's a pretty good jump. 25 kilos lost all in two months, and no exercise. Just one simple change to how I eat.
#2779 [23:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Kilos...
#2780 [23:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, nice job. :D
#2781 [23:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Around 15 Centimeters (?)
#2782 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> Yep, kilos, from 130kg to 107kg. I don't eat anything in between the three main meals of the day. Sounds easy but there's always temptations getting in the way. I don't miss out on dessert either :)
#2783 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> 107? ._.
#2784 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait
#2785 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm thinking pounds.
#2786 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Sorry, I am an american. XD
#2787 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> 107 = 214+21 pounds. That's 225 pounds for you imperials chaps
#2788 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#2789 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> I wieght around 110 kilos.
#2790 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> 130kg is 260+26 or 286 pounds.
#2791 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> whuuuut?
#2792 [23:07] <Wug> I weigh 135 lbs
#2793 [23:07] <DiskDaemon> That's what I was in April.
#2794 [23:07] <Wug> I can bench press my weight.
#2795 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait, 225 pounds? ._.
#2796 [23:07] <Wug> u r jelly
#2797 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> I am 130. XD
#2798 [23:07] <Wug> (implying 135 is a lot)
#2799 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> that's like, 50 kilos?
#2800 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I never benched.
#2801 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Ever.
#2802 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> I'm taking daily recordings on the iPad and graphing the results. I was losing 400 gramms (nearly a pound) each and every day
#2803 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh sweet.
#2804 [23:08] <Wug> oh I see
#2805 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> In three more months, you will be 10 pounds heavier than me. :D
#2806 [23:08] <Wug> your "simple change". you stopped eating completely \o/
#2807 [23:09] <Wug> thats not healthy you know
#2808 [23:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Anorexic. \o/
#2809 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> The strange thing is that there's no hardship to this "diet" either. I haven't even gone to such extreme measures as involving exercise yet either.
#2810 [23:09] <CrusaderDeleters> He said he eats his daily 3 meals./
#2811 [23:09] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: by that login, in 7 months youll evaporate
#2812 [23:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#2813 [23:09] <Wug> logic*
#2814 [23:10] <CrusaderDeleters> I am 130, and making a pig of myself. I am gaining 0 pounds every day.
#2815 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> I just give my body time to digest between lunch and dinner, and after dinner (with dessert sometimes too). They're big dinners too, that the bed & breakfast serves up here as well
#2816 [23:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Go back home, and eat you a frozen pizza every day. c:
#2817 [23:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Just kidding.
#2818 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> Some people are just naturally thin, because their bodies have a harder time taking in fat from their diet. Lucky sods
#2819 [23:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Unlucky, too.
#2820 [23:10] <Wug> I really shouldnt weigh 135lbs
#2821 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> less than 1% are like that though
#2822 [23:10] <Wug> I sit in a comfy chair all day
#2823 [23:11] <CrusaderDeleters> I think I am losing wieght, actaully.
#2824 [23:11] <CrusaderDeleters> My baggy pants taht I have barely stays on me now.
#2825 [23:11] <CrusaderDeleters> It used to during school, but now that I work, I think I am losing weight/gaining muscle weight.
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#2827 [23:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Us Skinnies usually eat nothing in the decade of their lives.
#2828 [23:12] <stockdogg> hi..having problems connecting to the game
#2829 [23:12] <Wug> stockdogg: did you follow the directions
#2830 [23:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Got internet?
#2831 [23:12] <stockdogg> yes and yes
#2832 [23:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Bye guys, going to bed now.
#2833 [23:12] <DiskDaemon> g'night
#2834 [23:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Gye buys, boinb to ged now.
#2835 [23:13] <stockdogg> i purchased the game and it will not load
#2836 [23:13] <Wug> stockdogg: you are opening minecraft with the shortcut the program generated?
#2837 [23:13] <stockdogg> trying to yes...i have also selected the option..play in browser and that doesnt work either
#2838 [23:13] <Wug> playing in browser wont work with the ! bug.
#2839 [23:13] <stockdogg> i have a laptop...the game loads just fine on there but not on the desktop
#2840 [23:13] <Wug> its because you have a ! in your windows username.
#2841 [23:14] <stockdogg> i took the ! out of my username
#2842 [23:14] <Wug> thats not enough.
#2843 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> stockdogg: That won't fitx the problem.
#2844 [23:14] <Wug> the folder name does not change.
#2845 [23:14] <stockdogg> ok what do i do
#2846 [23:14] <Wug> did you download and run the program as instructed
#2847 [23:14] <stockdogg> yes
#2848 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> ??> stockdogg win/!
#2849 [23:14] <VoxelHead> stockdogg: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#2850 [23:14] <VoxelHead> stockdogg: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#2851 [23:14] <CrusaderDeleters> I would make a program to remive ! outta everything. c:
#2852 [23:14] <CrusaderDeleters> remove*
#2853 [23:14] <Wug> does it give you the same error?
#2854 [23:14] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: its somewhat dangerous
#2855 [23:15] <Wug> difficult to do under any circumstances, impossible to do on a non-administrative account, and impossible to do on the account you're using
#2856 [23:15] <stockdogg> well im not willing to screw my computer up
#2857 [23:15] <Wug> stockdogg: just run the program, it uses a safe workaround
#2858 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> When you use Win+R, and then run "cmd" without the quotes, what is the path that the black screen shows? C:\Users\....\>
#2859 [23:16] <stockdogg> the ! is still there
#2860 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> Because of the ! in that path, the fix need to be applied.
#2861 [23:16] <Wug> there is nothing you can do to change it
#2862 [23:17] <Wug> not safely anyway. use the workaround
#2863 [23:18] <stockdogg> THANK YOU...it worked
#2864 [23:18] <DiskDaemon> You're welcomel.
#2865 [23:18] <Wug> you must remember to use that shortcut.
#2866 [23:19] <Wug> if you do not, it will not work.
#2867 [23:19] <stockdogg> i appreciate all your help....thank you again
#2868 [23:19] <Wug> if you have another copy of the launcher on the desktop, I suggest you remove it so you dont confuse the two.
#2869 [23:19] <stockdogg> i understand..ok i will
#2870 [23:19] <DiskDaemon> You can create a "new" user account (not a renamed one) on your computer though, without an exclamation mark in the name, and things will work from there too.
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