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#2 [00:26] <Dan> hey is the 1.3 update be updated for java 1.7
#3 [00:26] <Wug> they will be compatible yes.
#4 [00:27] <Wug> if you have issues with java 7, reinstalling usually fixes them (especially if you have version 6 installed as well, in which case removing 6 usually helps too)
#5 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> The Java 1.7 issue though where it tries to communicate using IPv6, I'm not sure if an update to the launcher or the game can fix that. That's being looked in to.
#6 [00:28] <Dan> i did a new install on my computer of windows for recording only and it sucks cause i want to live stream and record but cause of the 1.7 problem i cant with 1.2.5
#7 [00:28] <Wug> DiskDaemon: maybe I'm nuts but I believe there is an option that can be passed on the command line to fix that
#8 [00:28] <Wug> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
#9 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> Yes, there is an option. Shown in http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#10 [00:30] <Wug> ;+ java/ipv6 Java 7 defaults to using ipv6 connections over ipv4 whenever possible. This can sometimes interfere with minecraft on systems where ipv6 is present but nonfunctional.;;To force java to prefer ipv4 over ipv6, include the following option on the command line or in your java preferences, or ask a helper for assistance: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
#11 [00:30] <Wug> ;save
#12 [00:31] <Wug> so Wugbot is being haxored to all heck
#13 [00:31] <Wug> if it blows up for some reason, please notify me immediately
#14 [00:31] <Dan> i wonder if he can now see my server as a real server and not local
#15 [00:31] <Wug> ;check dan
#16 [00:31] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: adsl-68-126-177-243.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net:25565 (Timed out)
#17 [00:31] <Wug> nope
#18 [00:31] <Dan> ;check mc.ssfdre38.com:25565
#19 [00:31] <WugBot> mc.ssfdre38.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: Official Minecrafters Server (0/20)
#20 [00:31] <Dan> thank you
#21 [00:32] <Wug> heh ok
#22 [00:32] <Dan> well for a long time it was saying it was a local address
#23 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> Thanks Wug. We'll try to educate people on how to edit/create a batch file to give that preferred IPv4 stack, if we can
#24 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> Ideally though minecraft.net needs to update itself so that it can accept IPv6 connections.
#25 [00:33] <Wug> DiskDaemon: do you know how to set global java options on windows
#26 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> via the Java control panel?
#27 [00:33] <Wug> its in the control panel, obviously under the java option.
#28 [00:34] <Wug> I dont remember what the interface looks like but I'd imagine its easy enough
#29 [00:34] <Elystus> Disk, when did you get voiced btw, I have not been on in a few days.
#30 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> It was a few days ago now, when one of the ops spent some time watching me work on here
#31 [00:35] <Elystus> btw, this is Lardman.
#32 [00:35] <Elystus> Nice! :)
#33 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> Ahh yes, with a change of name to a more repectable looking one :)
#34 [00:36] <Elystus> Yes, I signed up to minecraft with that name... I have hated it for the past year and a hlaf
#35 [00:36] <Elystus> half*
#36 [00:36] <Elystus> GOt a diffrent mc account and got a mcf name change.
#37 [00:37] <Wug> DiskDaemon: havent you been voiced forever
#38 [00:37] <Elystus> Btw, the reason I have not been on in a few days is because I have been recovering froma surgery.
#39 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> I've been voiced for only for a few days in this channel
#40 [00:37] <Wug> I guess im just a dick or something
#41 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> Although, thanks for recognising that I should have been voiced earlier :)
#42 [00:37] <Elystus> Lol Wug.
#43 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> Oh and yes, in the control panel Java page, in the Java tab, in the View button section, you can add runtime parameters in there.
#44 [00:43] <langkid1> meow
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#48 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> Wug: I see from http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/ that wugbot already had ipv6 info, which seems to have a more details setting for the parameters.
#49 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> DO you feel like doing a bit more editing on that to combine what was and what is?
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#51 [00:54] <shadowrx> okay, so i downloaded the minecraft server .exe but whenever i rum it it says failed to save server properties. can you please help me?
#52 [00:55] <tips48> Any more information in the error?
#53 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> Move the server file on to your desktop. It's quite likely that it just doesn't have permission where it currently is to create the files that it needs.
#54 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> If it works from your desktop, create a folder, put the server files in that folder.
#55 [00:56] <shadowrx> umm i looked it up and people were saying to download hamachi to make multiplayer servers, so i was following that method. and no matter where i run it, it wouldnt work
#56 [00:57] <DiskDaemon> hamachi tends to cause more problems than it solves
#57 [00:57] <Elystus> Yea, Hamachi is much harder to set up than the regular server
#58 [00:57] <shadowrx> do you know another way without port fowarding?
#59 [00:57] <shadowrx> or is that the only reliable way?
#60 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> port forwarding is the only reliable way.
#61 [00:58] <shadowrx> okay, well, i tried that too and it seemed to not work >.<
#62 [00:58] <shadowrx> is there any chance you can give me a step by step for it?
#63 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> The best step by step instructions are from portforward.com
#64 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> What router do you have?
#65 [00:59] <shadowrx> i have a pretty good Netgear router
#66 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> make/model?
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#68 [01:00] <shadowrx> umm im not sure and im unable to check right now. one second let me see if i can look it up
#69 [01:00] <shadowrx> WNR2000-100NAS
#70 [01:00] <shadowrx> thats the model
#71 [01:01] <DiskDaemon> Okay, instructions are at http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WNR2000/Minecraft_Server.htm
#72 [01:01] <DiskDaemon> Or if you have the v2 model, at http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netgear/WNR2000v2/Minecraft_Server.htm
#73 [01:02] <shadowrx> um how can i tell if it is the v2?
#74 [01:02] <shadowrx> would it like say or something?
#75 [01:02] <DiskDaemon> I'll jsut see
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#77 [01:03] <DiskDaemon> The router screens will look different on the v2, with a colored logo near the rop right.
#78 [01:04] <DiskDaemon> Also, the router interface will say at the top of the screen: "router manager Wireless-N Router model-WNR2000
#79 [01:04] <DiskDaemon> or, "router manager Wireless-N 300 Router model-WNR2000v2"
#80 [01:05] <shadowrx> um i cant physically look at the router at this time but i have a link for the exact router if that would help
#81 [01:05] <DiskDaemon> When you can access it, you have the instructions there that detail how to port forward for Minecraft on that particular router.
#82 [01:06] <shadowrx> i dont have the router program on my laptop, its on my desktop, which i cant go to right now. is there any other way or should i just try both methods?
#83 [01:07] <DiskDaemon> We can find out if you give us a screenshot of the top of one of the router pages.
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#86 [01:15] <DiskDaemon> Your local IP address will have IPv4 Address beside it, near the top of the list.
#87 [01:15] <tips48> net split -_-
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#91 [01:16] <shadowrx> is it called the ipv4?
#92 [01:17] <Dan> well i found a old java 1.6.0.5 install
#93 [01:17] <DiskDaemon> Yes it is.
#94 [01:17] <shadowrx> okay its 5.32.225.59
#95 [01:17] <DiskDaemon> That's the hamachi one. Ignore that.
#96 [01:18] <DiskDaemon> There's another one which will be the internal local IP address of the computer
#97 [01:18] <shadowrx> umm one says link local ipv6 address
#98 [01:19] <DiskDaemon> Does it say "Ethernet adaptor hamachi" just above that?
#99 [01:19] <shadowrx> um no
#100 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> Can you copy all of that information and paste it to pastebin.com so we can have a look at it?
#101 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> Right-click on the black part of the screen, choose Mark, select all of the text, then press Enter. It is now copied.
#102 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> Then paste it to pastebin.com
#103 [01:21] <shadowrx> umm cant people hack my comp with that info?
#104 [01:21] <DiskDaemon> There is no danger of that.
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#106 [01:23] <shadowrx> why not
#107 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> Because your external ip address is already known, and all of the other information isn't accessible from outside of your local network.
#108 [01:25] <shadowrx> but if i post it online, dosent that make it accessable?
#109 [01:26] <DiskDaemon> No. There's no way for someone to access any of your internal locations without coming in through your external connection.
#110 [01:26] <DiskDaemon> If you like though, you can create your own account on pastebin or some other website, so that you can delete the information afterwards.
#111 [01:27] <DiskDaemon> I also suggest that we don't delay things much further, because I have to be leaving in 30 minutes.
#112 [01:27] <shadowrx> you know what, this is too complicated for right now. im sorry for wasting your time, but thank you for your help
#113 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> *big sigh*
#114 [01:28] <puffrfish> >.>
#115 [01:29] <DiskDaemon> They come in here wanting help, but not wanting to provide any info with which they can be helped.
#116 [01:29] <DiskDaemon> *frustration*
#117 [01:33] <Iaccidentally> welcome to support!
#118 [01:33] * tips48 facepalms
#118 [01:33] <tips48> Y u leave!
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#123 [02:11] <RoidRage> Hey
#124 [02:12] <tips48> hey
#125 [02:12] <tips48> roidrage...lol
#126 [02:12] <RoidRage> Does anyone know why recently all the servers I add to my minecraft multiplayer say "Can't reach server" But they work when I try to play on the on the browser
#127 [02:12] <Elystus> Hello there.
#128 [02:12] <tips48> No clue
#129 [02:12] <tips48> Your using the official client?
#130 [02:12] <RoidRage> Yes.
#131 [02:12] <RoidRage> Just re-installed it
#132 [02:12] <tips48> I remember somewhere in there there was a bug
#133 [02:12] <RoidRage> To see if that would fix it
#134 [02:12] <RoidRage> Didn't help
#135 [02:12] <tips48> hmm
#136 [02:13] <RoidRage> It's really annoying....
#137 [02:13] <RoidRage> Just started happening yesterday
#138 [02:13] <RoidRage> I reset my internet
#139 [02:13] <RoidRage> Restarted my computer, re-downloaded the game
#140 [02:13] <RoidRage> Nothing helped
#141 [02:13] <Elystus> try deleting your last login file
#142 [02:14] <Elystus> in the .minecraft
#143 [02:14] <RoidRage> k
#144 [02:14] <RoidRage> Same error
#145 [02:14] <RoidRage> "Can't reach server"
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#147 [02:17] <RoidRage> Are there any staff on that I can speak to?
#148 [02:18] <Elystus> No staff, I would help but I am not feeling well right now.
#149 [02:18] <Elystus> I am still recovering from a surgery.
#150 [02:19] <RoidRage> Oh, shit get better soon
#151 [02:20] <Elystus> Thanks :_
#152 [02:20] <Elystus> I should probably leave the channel. Not thinking well so. Cya :)
#153 [02:20] <Elystus> I should probably leave the channel. Not thinking well so. Cya :)
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#156 [02:25] <RoidRage> Any helpers awake or willing to help?
#157 [02:26] <Dan> RoidRage, did you update your java to 1.7?
#158 [02:26] <RoidRage> Let me check
#159 [02:28] <Dan> i know java 1.7.0_5 has been having problems and ive been working on my end to get my minecraft to run java 1.6.0_5 and not 1.7.0_5
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#161 [02:32] <RoidRage> I have the latest java
#162 [02:32] <RoidRage> I'll remove it and go to version 6
#163 [02:33] <Dan> im hoping that 1.3 can fix that problem but from the snapshots its not going to be that way for 1.3
#164 [02:35] <RoidRage> I don't know how this is going to work
#165 [02:36] <RoidRage> I have version 7 Update 5
#166 [02:36] <RoidRage> And I need to get down to version 6 right?
#167 [02:36] <Dan> yes
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#169 [02:38] <RoidRage> Ugh I have to make an account and a bunch of other bull shit...
#170 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> To download java? No you don't
#171 [02:38] <RoidRage> Downgrade
#172 [02:38] <RoidRage> I need to lower version
#173 [02:38] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#174 [02:39] <RoidRage> Windows?
#175 [02:39] <Dan> well what windows?
#176 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Then go to your start menu, hit the Control panel. Go to programs and feature (or add/remove programs if you're on XP).
#177 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Look for Java in that list, uninstall it
#178 [02:39] <RoidRage> Windows 7
#179 [02:39] <Dan> RoidRage, do you have Java 1.6 installed from the past?
#180 [02:39] <GreyVulpine> Grab the appropriate version of java 6 from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#181 [02:40] <GreyVulpine> Download and install. There, you've now downgraded
#182 [02:40] <RoidRage> Ok thanks sir
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#184 [02:43] <DrDubstep> hey everybody.....is there anyone ?
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#187 [02:51] <RoidRage> K well I downgraded my java to version 6 update 31, still have the same problem "can't reach server"
#188 [02:52] <RoidRage> works fine on browser
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#190 [02:58] <RoidRage> So whenever I add a new server it shows its connect then I try to join it says bad login then it says "can't reach server"
#191 [02:58] <RoidRage> Just started happening yesterday the game was working flawless since then
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#196 [03:26] <iwanttoplaymc> hello
#197 [03:27] <iwanttoplaymc> rarely lets me play because when i try to join a server it says "downlaoding terrain" weithout the dl bar and then times out
#198 [03:27] <iwanttoplaymc> can anyone help me?
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#200 [03:31] <iwanttoplaymc> anyone here?
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#203 [04:19] <minecraftnewguy> Hello! I hope all is well. I am trying to run Minecraft classic on my Mac (OS X 10.7.4). I have installed the latest Java update and I am asked by the mine craft site to switch applets when I try to join a server. After that though, all I see is a black screen. I have tried this in Chrome, Firefox and Safari with the same results. What am I doing wrong??
#204 [04:20] <Calinou> > java 7 spotted, you have to revert to java 6
#205 [04:20] <Calinou> classic doesn't work with java 7
#206 [04:20] <Calinou> this is gonna be harder than on windows, since you have a mac. ._.
#207 [04:21] <minecraftnewguy> Aha! Not a problem. I am just about to install Windows through bootcamp. I had no idea this was the case so I will work it through Windows.
#208 [04:21] <minecraftnewguy> Thank you, kind sir!
#209 [04:22] <minecraftnewguy> Have a good day!
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#218 [05:33] <DaMorpheuS> can someone help me I have some troubles building a mob trap
#219 [05:33] <tikker> talk
#220 [05:33] <DaMorpheuS> thx :)
#221 [05:33] <tikker> i'll see if i can help you
#222 [05:35] <DaMorpheuS> I found a spawn box in one of my caves and I tried to build a water elevator to transport the mobs up to the surface to transport them to my house (into the lava) but for some reason the mobs don't come up there I've seen only two zombies who got up but if I'm opening up the spawn area it;s full of zombies
#223 [05:35] <DaMorpheuS> maybe I'm doing something wrong with the transport near the spawn to the elevator
#224 [05:36] <tikker> can it be that your spawn box is a zombie spawner?
#225 [05:36] <tikker> you mean a dungeon right?
#226 [05:36] <DaMorpheuS> yep
#227 [05:36] <tikker> well, if only zombies are appearing, it almost sure is a zombie spawner
#228 [05:37] <DaMorpheuS> it doens't matter that it are only zombies but still I want them to go up the elevator (is it possible that the elevator is to high and they despawn in the elevator?)
#229 [05:37] <tikker> not likely
#230 [05:37] <tikker> how is your design
#231 [05:38] <DaMorpheuS> uhmm next to the spawner I have 2 rows of water transporting the zombie down to the elevator and that is the one with one water, one sign
#232 [05:38] <DaMorpheuS> but it's like 60 high
#233 [05:38] <DaMorpheuS> is there some rule for how deep the water should be to transport mombs
#234 [05:39] <tikker> i don't think so
#235 [05:39] <tikker> mobs tend to swim upward
#236 [05:39] <tikker> so your design should work
#237 [05:39] <DaMorpheuS> I hope i get it to work it took me some time to build the thing (is on xbox so no free build mode ;) )
#238 [05:40] <tikker> well i am not an expert at mob traps, but i think your design should work
#239 [05:40] <tikker> so i'm afraid i can't help you further
#240 [05:40] <DaMorpheuS> damn no worries
#241 [05:41] <DaMorpheuS> so who is the expert here then ? :)
#242 [05:42] <DaMorpheuS> no one? ;)
#243 [05:49] <tikker> apperently not :|
#244 [05:51] <Necrodoom> can you give pic of spawn box?
#245 [05:53] <tikker> you mean this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Monster-spawner
#246 [05:53] <tikker> ?
#247 [05:53] <Necrodoom> tikker: of your setup at the dunger
#248 [05:53] <tikker> DaMorpeheuS has it
#249 [05:53] <tikker> i was trying to help :)
#250 [05:54] <DaMorpheuS> yes that's the one sorry I'm at work at tje moment
#251 [05:54] <DaMorpheuS> but that's the spawn box
#252 [05:55] <tikker> how does your system look
#253 [05:55] <tikker> of transporting etc
#254 [05:55] <tikker> i think that's what he means
#255 [05:55] <tikker> a pic of that
#256 [05:55] <DaMorpheuS> c = cobble s = spawn w = water e = elevator
#257 [05:56] <DaMorpheuS> cccscccccccc
#258 [05:56] <DaMorpheuS> am i kicked out?
#259 [05:56] <tikker> no?
#260 [05:56] <DaMorpheuS> oh I can't send my thing
#261 [05:57] <DaMorpheuS> I'll try again
#262 [05:57] <DaMorpheuS> ccc s ccccccc
#263 [05:57] <DaMorpheuS> wwwwwwwwwwe
#264 [05:57] <Necrodoom> just take a damn pic
#265 [05:57] <DaMorpheuS> so at one side I have a solid wall with spwan box inside
#266 [05:57] <tikker> an ingame printscreen
#267 [05:58] <DaMorpheuS> next to that wall I got water flowing to one point where I build the elevator up to the surface
#268 [05:58] <tikker> please provide a picture
#269 [05:58] <tikker> that way we can judge better :)
#270 [05:58] <DaMorpheuS> I"M AT WORK Necrodoom
#271 [05:58] <tikker> so you can't play mc?
#272 [05:59] <tikker> i get it
#273 [05:59] <tikker> but without a good pic
#274 [05:59] <DaMorpheuS> lol right
#275 [05:59] <tikker> we can't really help
#276 [05:59] <tikker> because it might just be that single block over there that causes trouble
#277 [05:59] <DaMorpheuS> ok tonight I'll make a picture and send it to this chat (but I won't know if your still here ;) )
#278 [05:59] <DaMorpheuS> true
#279 [06:00] <tikker> where do you live
#280 [06:00] <tikker> im in the netherlands
#281 [06:00] <DaMorpheuS> holland
#282 [06:00] <DaMorpheuS> lol
#283 [06:00] <tikker> o lol
#284 [06:00] <DaMorpheuS> dus
#285 [06:00] <tikker> vanavond ben ik er wss niet
#286 [06:00] <DaMorpheuS> zit je op xbox dan?
#287 [06:00] <DaMorpheuS> of op pc
#288 [06:01] <tikker> nee
#289 [06:01] <tikker> op pc
#290 [06:01] <DaMorpheuS> ik moet die versie ook maar eens kopen is volgens mij veeeeeel verder dan xbox versie
#291 [06:01] <tikker> is ie ook
#292 [06:01] <DaMorpheuS> wij krijgen over 2 weken pas versie 1.7.3
#293 [06:01] <tikker> ja
#294 [06:01] <DaMorpheuS> eindelijk pistons :)
#295 [06:01] <tikker> dat was voor ons beta
#296 [06:01] <tikker> we zitten nu al op full release 1.2.5
#297 [06:01] <tikker> met 1.3 upcoming
#298 [06:02] <DaMorpheuS> ja I know
#299 [06:02] <DaMorpheuS> heeft ie niet een zware pc nodig dan?
#300 [06:02] <tikker> mc?
#301 [06:02] <DaMorpheuS> ja
#302 [06:02] <tikker> niet heel erg zwaar
#303 [06:02] <tikker> maar het is soms wel cpu intensive
#304 [06:03] <DaMorpheuS> ik heb alleen pentium 4 laptopje met wel een boel geheugen alleen niet zo'n goeie videokaart
#305 [06:03] <DaMorpheuS> hij kost 20 dollar ofzo toch voor de pc
#306 [06:03] <tikker> ik moet gan
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#308 [06:03] <tikker> ja
#309 [06:03] <DaMorpheuS> kan je dan ook met meerdere in 1 server zitten
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#320 [06:58] <creeperz> does anyone know of a good creative server?
#321 [06:59] <Calinou> ?? smp/servers
#322 [06:59] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#323 [06:59] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/45-minecraft-survival-servers/. Also, try the #smp channel.
#324 [07:00] <creeperz> thanks
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#328 [07:16] <WizardCM> Hey guys, I'm looking for help with getting a Minecraft server to work over Hamachi. This is not for a long-term server, but for showing off the new LAN scan features of the new Minecraft snapshot.
#329 [07:16] <WizardCM> It didn't work via the new feature, so we tested just a vanilla server, no luck there either.
#330 [07:17] <WizardCM> Any suggestions?
#331 [07:18] <Calinou> hamashit
#332 [07:18] <Calinou> why would you use hamachi for lan?
#333 [07:18] <Calinou> you don't even have to port forward for lan
#334 [07:18] <WizardCM> keyword scan: http://screen.wizardcm.com/2012-06-22_21-13-38.png
#335 [07:19] <WizardCM> we want to show off the lan feature, however we are not on the same local network
#336 [07:19] <WizardCM> thats the only reason why we're trying with hamachi
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#338 [07:26] <DiskDaemon> Suggestion - test the feature in the same type of environment that other people will be using it. If it doesn't work for you, then that feature is not likely to work for others either.
#339 [07:27] <DiskDaemon> If you test it in a different environment, there's no way to tell if it'll work in a different environment.
#340 [07:27] <WizardCM> Running two instances of the Minecraft client, one is able to find the other.
#341 [07:27] <WizardCM> ie. LAN game running on one, other sees it in the list automatically.
#342 [07:28] <WizardCM> to show you what i mean: http://screen.wizardcm.com/2012-06-22_21-26-58.png
#343 [07:29] <DiskDaemon> What is the subnet mask under which that searching takes place?
#344 [07:30] <WizardCM> Wouldn't know, but as I stated before: even me running a regular 1.2.5 server cannot be seen by the player on the other end of the Hamachi network, on a 1.2.5 client
#345 [07:30] <WizardCM> So something else is wrong here.
#346 [07:31] <DiskDaemon> That mod searches the local lan, right?
#347 [07:31] <SinZ> ?? fubar/hamachi
#348 [07:31] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#349 [07:31] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#350 [07:33] <WizardCM> ...
#351 [07:33] <WizardCM> "proper port forwarding, or a VPN."
#352 [07:33] <WizardCM> 2 problems there
#353 [07:33] <WizardCM> 1. Hamachi is known AS VPN software
#354 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> With a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 it will search just the Class C part of the network. 192.168.1.nnn With a subnet mask of 255.0.0.0 it will search the Class A part of the network. 255.nnn.nnn.nnn
#355 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> So I'm asking how far does the searching go? What is the subnet mask of the search?
#356 [07:33] <WizardCM> 2. Proper port forwarding doesn't matter in this case. Port forwarding has no problems.
#357 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> I'm not saying anything at all about port forwarding
#358 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> I'm just asking a fundamental basic question about the search.
#359 [07:34] <WizardCM> you mentioned mod, it's vanilla: http://www.mojang.com/2012/06/minecraft-snapshot-week-25/
#360 [07:34] <WizardCM> i don't know how it works
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#362 [07:35] <WizardCM> but I DO know that when it creates the lan server in the client, it locks it to one IP
#363 [07:35] <WizardCM> i was able to somehow point it to hamachi, but still
#364 [07:35] <WizardCM> a vanilla 1.2.5 client on 1 machine is unable to connect to a 1.2.5 vanilla server on the other end
#365 [07:35] <SinZ> you would need a mod on the client to point to the hamachi IP
#366 [07:36] <daave> Does anyone know why my minecraft dosent work. i bought it and downloaded it but everytime i click to go in it never loads?? Please hlp
#367 [07:36] <SinZ> any errors daave?
#368 [07:37] <daave> i dont know im not great with compiters is there anyway i can contact mojang
#369 [07:37] <DiskDaemon> daave: Mojang have a 2 month delay on responding to emails, but they're keeping up with it. What error message occurs?
#370 [07:37] <WizardCM> DiskDaemon: hamachi ip starts with 5.208, and if you look at this list the client's server is running on that IP only http://screen.wizardcm.com/2012-06-22_21-36-41.png however, also note the server running on 25565 in 8th line.
#371 [07:38] <daave> i dont know how to coontact them
#372 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> I can answer nothing about hamachi.
#373 [07:38] <SinZ> daave: so when you run the launcher, and put your username
#374 [07:38] <SinZ> +password, does it login?
#375 [07:38] <WizardCM> got a suggestion on different, reliable, free vpn software then?
#376 [07:39] <daave> oh it dosent load whatsoever i just click it and it dosent do anything
#377 [07:39] <SinZ> what version of java do you have?
#378 [07:40] <daave> i downloaded the ltest one a few days ago
#379 [07:41] <DiskDaemon> He would like a version number. http://javatester.org/version.html
#380 [07:42] <SinZ> ...
#381 [07:43] <DiskDaemon> Ooh, there's a factoid for version too.
#382 [07:43] <DiskDaemon> ?? java/version
#383 [07:43] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#384 [07:43] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#385 [07:43] <DiskDaemon> I might use that in the futhre
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#387 [07:44] <daave> Version 7 Update 5
#388 [07:44] <daave> that one
#389 [07:45] <SinZ> ok, so you Put your username and password in, hit the login button, and nothing happens at all?
#390 [07:45] <daave> the minecraft launcher dosent even load
#391 [07:45] <SinZ> have you tried redownloading the launcher?
#392 [07:46] <daave> i havent no i will try now
#393 [07:46] <daave> thanks for the help i will join back later if it dosent work
#394 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> I think he may be replacing the webchat page with the new page, not understanding perhaps about multiple tabs or even multiple windows.
#395 [07:50] <SinZ> ^
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#398 [08:06] <Wolfcub> heya
#399 [08:07] <Necrodoom> hi
#400 [08:08] <ryan250lc> having problems opening up minecraft, ibought it around a week ago and still havent been able to play it, all my java and downloads are all up to date but i cant start up minecraft due to an error
#401 [08:08] <ryan250lc> help anyone ??
#402 [08:08] <WizardCM> what does the error say ryan250lc
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#404 [08:10] <ryan250lc> error: could not create a virtual java machine error: a fatal exception has occured. Progam will exit
#405 [08:10] <ryan250lc> but iv just downloaded the newest version of java
#406 [08:11] <ryan250lc> version 7 update 5
#407 [08:11] <Necrodoom> use java 6
#408 [08:11] <DiskDaemon> Hang on, I had a troubleshooting page about that virtual machine issue
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#410 [08:11] <DiskDaemon> Here it is - http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1223833-java-cannot-create-virtual-machine/
#411 [08:12] <Wolfcub> minecraft keeps saying 'failure to launch' while trying to update on my new laptop, and even if i remove it and redownload it still doesnt work sticks at jinput.jar 5% or jinput.jar 15%
#412 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> Wolfcub: That sounds like your antivirus is falsly identifying one of the downloads as a potential virus
#413 [08:13] <DiskDaemon> The most effective solution is to temporarily disable your antivirus while Minecraft is updating.
#414 [08:13] <Wolfcub> ah, ok thank you
#415 [08:13] <ryan250lc> this compuor is 10 days old just had new virus software and a new copy of windows seven installed the only thing iv attempted to download is mine craft and java
#416 [08:14] <Morrolan> Wolfcub - If you're using AVG, disable its linkscanner module.
#417 [08:15] <Morrolan> It's a bit safer than disabling it completely. :)
#418 [08:15] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: Temporarily?
#419 [08:15] <Morrolan> I don't think the Linkscanner module is actually of any use, so could just as well disable it completely.
#420 [08:15] <Morrolan> But temporarily would work too, most likely. :)
#421 [08:15] <Wolfcub> yes im using AVG
#422 [08:15] <Wolfcub> first one i could think of i just got this laptop yesterday
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#424 [08:15] <DiskDaemon> Yep, AVG has been the bane of virtually all Minecraft users
#425 [08:16] <DiskDaemon> Microsoft Security Essentials is the one that I recommend
#426 [08:16] <Morrolan> Microsoft Security Essentials is said to be fairly okay, Wolfcub. (That is there's only a few users bashing it even if it's a Microsoft product, which must mean it's great)
#427 [08:16] <Wolfcub> what about avast?
#428 [08:16] <Necrodoom> using avast here, works aswell
#429 [08:16] <Wolfcub> :)
#430 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> VAG (keeping spelling error) was one of the best up until around 4 years ago
#431 [08:17] <laseromich> hi! really save all buffered images from minecraft client?
#432 [08:17] <Morrolan> Personally I'm using Avira, the free version, and that one worked too so far. .)
#433 [08:17] <Wolfcub> thank you all, i cried when i could play XD
#434 [08:18] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Reminds me of Norton. Back when I used it a few years ago I enjoyed it a lot, now people go apeshit if you as much as mention its name. ^^
#435 [08:18] <Morrolan> Wolfcub - Heh, glad it worked. :)
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#438 [08:18] <Mumzy> can anyone help me?
#439 [08:18] <DiskDaemon> quite liekly
#440 [08:18] <WizardCM> thats what we're here for Mumzy :P
#441 [08:19] <Mumzy> well yea but i needed to know if anyone was available
#442 [08:19] <prrye> ARgh ! does any 1 know when patch 1.3 will arrive ? :O !! want it so bad
#443 [08:19] <Wolfcub> you people are amazing :)
#444 [08:19] <Morrolan> prrye - There's this great phrase which is kinda popular by now: "When it's done."
#445 [08:19] <DiskDaemon> weekly snapshots of 1.3 are coming out until it's eventual release
#446 [08:20] <Morrolan> But last I heard it was supposed to get released sometime this summer.
#447 [08:20] <DiskDaemon> Valve Time.
#448 [08:20] <prrye> Worrolan - Thats not a good phrase xD i want that patch soon :P cant wait to trick my m8s with tripwire ^^ haha
#449 [08:20] <Mumzy> i was wondering if anyone could help me with my minecraft running Terribly slowly
#450 [08:20] <DiskDaemon> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
#451 [08:20] <DiskDaemon> How old is the computer?
#452 [08:21] <DiskDaemon> Brand new, a few years, 6 years old, 10, 15?
#453 [08:21] <Mumzy> i watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip6Z_NIWOSc&feature=relmfu and my minecraft runned perfectly fine and i wanted it to run faster because it would run slow randomly not due to redstone or anything just completely randomly
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#455 [08:21] <limonade123> hallo
#456 [08:22] <limonade123> i need help i forgott my password
#457 [08:22] <ryan250lc> just ran a registry scan with CCleaner and ir said there is an osolete software key with java
#458 [08:22] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#459 [08:22] <prrye> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#460 [08:22] <Necrodoom> limonade123: this is an unoffical IRC chat, by the way
#461 [08:23] <limonade123> thx prrye
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#463 [08:25] <ryan250lc> how do i sort this obsolete software key for java ? is itt just a case of unistalling and reinstalling java ?
#464 [08:26] <DiskDaemon> ccleaner should give you the option for it to take care of that obselete key for you
#465 [08:26] <Mumzy> DiskDaemon anything you think can help?
#466 [08:27] <DiskDaemon> Yep, better hardware.
#467 [08:27] <Wolfcub> ill come back to tell you if it worked
#468 [08:29] <DiskDaemon> ??> Mumzy win/dxdiag
#469 [08:29] <VoxelHead> Mumzy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#470 [08:29] <VoxelHead> Mumzy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#471 [08:31] <Mumzy> win+rdxdiag
#472 [08:31] <Grim_Reaper> windows key + r
#473 [08:31] <Mumzy> ok sorry derp
#474 [08:31] <DiskDaemon> On your computer - not typed in to this text area
#475 [08:32] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#476 [08:32] <DiskDaemon> The Windows key is located in between the Ctrl and Alt keys on your keyboard.
#477 [08:32] <Grim_Reaper> My windows key is located by my window
#478 [08:33] <Grim_Reaper> :| *poker face*
#479 [08:33] <DiskDaemon> This is what the Windows key looks like http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#480 [08:33] <DiskDaemon> I don't know how to explain it any clearer than that. :)
#481 [08:33] <Mumzy> found it thank you i clicked save all info just now still going through steps
#482 [08:34] <Grim_Reaper> hehe
#483 [08:35] <Mumzy> paste everything from the save?
#484 [08:35] <Mumzy> well not paste copy?
#485 [08:35] <DiskDaemon> ??> Mumzy win/dxdiag
#486 [08:35] <VoxelHead> Mumzy: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#487 [08:35] <VoxelHead> Mumzy: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#488 [08:35] <DiskDaemon> The pastebin instructions ^
#489 [08:37] <Mumzy> http://pastebin.com/puhgsuph
#490 [08:37] <DiskDaemon> You can delete that file from your desktop now
#491 [08:37] <Mumzy> like that?
#492 [08:37] <Mumzy> yea
#493 [08:37] <Mumzy> file deleted
#494 [08:37] <DiskDaemon> Vista running an integrated graphics chip. Hrm.
#495 [08:38] <Mumzy> confused on what you just said but im going with it
#496 [08:38] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/nvidia
#497 [08:38] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#498 [08:38] <DiskDaemon> Please update your graphics drivers to the latest version that's available for them.
#499 [08:39] <DiskDaemon> You have an NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE graphics card.
#500 [08:39] <Mumzy> so in otherwords click the link?
#501 [08:39] <DiskDaemon> Yep, looks like it.
#502 [08:39] <DiskDaemon> The 6150 is in the "GeForce 6 Series"
#503 [08:41] <DiskDaemon> The Operating System you should choose is Vista 32-bit
#504 [08:41] <Mumzy> ok so what do i put in GeForce 6 or 600 series
#505 [08:41] <DiskDaemon> The 6150 is in the "GeForce 6 Series"
#506 [08:41] <DiskDaemon> It's right near the bottom of the list. (sorry)
#507 [08:41] <Mumzy> then i click search and download?
#508 [08:42] <DiskDaemon> yes
#509 [08:42] <DiskDaemon> Hang on
#510 [08:42] <DiskDaemon> Did you choose your Operating System on there?
#511 [08:42] <Mumzy> yea windows vista 32-Bit right?
#512 [08:43] <DiskDaemon> yes carry on :)
#513 [08:43] <Mumzy> its downloading
#514 [08:43] <Mumzy> then install?
#515 [08:43] <DiskDaemon> yes
#516 [08:45] <DiskDaemon> Reboot after it's finished installing, and we'll then make some changes to the Minecraft options to help improve its performance for you
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#519 [08:57] <DiskDaemon> This is the machine being worked on for Mumsy. An Aspire E380 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41cH2ws0aoL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
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#521 [09:01] <Mumzy> well i have some performance already done to my minecraft but it did run perfectly fine until i made changes using that video
#522 [09:01] <Mumzy> only the little moments of random when it would go slow
#523 [09:02] <Mumzy> those moments were the things i was trying to get rid of using the "help" of that video i posted earlier
#524 [09:02] <DiskDaemon> Mumzy: Can you go in to the Miencraft Options to make some changes that will improve performance even mroe?
#525 [09:02] <DiskDaemon> *more
#526 [09:03] <Mumzy> well its still downloading the graphics card
#527 [09:03] <DiskDaemon> righto - let us know when you're ready
#528 [09:03] <Mumzy> but i think i ran on far render but i was still good when i went to any render smaller the random slowness would still effect
#529 [09:04] <DiskDaemon> There's a lot of changes to make that all add a little bit for each, resulting in a lot together
#530 [09:05] <Mumzy> well my installer is about 3/5 of the way done
#531 [09:06] <Mumzy> and im good so reboot
#532 [09:06] <DiskDaemon> good one
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#535 [09:12] <mikeyz> ??< specs
#536 [09:12] <mikeyz> ??< stats
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#538 [09:15] <DiskDaemon> Mumzy: Let me know when you're in Minecraft's Options screen
#539 [09:16] <mikeyz> ??< win
#540 [09:16] <Mumzy> ok i went to my settings in minecraft and its been set to
#541 [09:16] <mikeyz> ??< win/!
#542 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> mikeyz: Would this be of some help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#543 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> Mumzy: These are the changes that you want to make. You can leave other ones as they are.
#544 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> Graphics:Fast, Render Distance:Short, Smooth Lighting:Off, Performance:Max FPS, View Bobbing:Off, Advanced OpenGL:On, Clouds:Off, Particles:Minimal
#545 [09:16] <Mumzy> Performance: Max fps
#546 [09:16] <mikeyz> yeah i have that
#547 [09:17] <Mumzy> Clouds: off
#548 [09:17] <Mumzy> Brightness: bright
#549 [09:17] <Mumzy> Smooth Lighting: on
#550 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> Mumzy: Turn that one off
#551 [09:17] <Mumzy> Graphics: fast
#552 [09:18] <Mumzy> Particles: Decreased
#553 [09:18] <Mumzy> 3D Anaglyph: off
#554 [09:18] <DiskDaemon> The smooth lighting results in quite the performance hit. Use it off, and then try it when on to see if the decreased speed is worth the changed look
#555 [09:18] <Mumzy> Bobbing: on
#556 [09:19] <Mumzy> i like the bobbing
#557 [09:19] <Mumzy> Gui Scale: auto
#558 [09:19] <Mumzy> Advanced open GL: off
#559 [09:20] <DiskDaemon> That one's best to leave on
#560 [09:20] <Mumzy> What is it?
#561 [09:20] <DiskDaemon> That advanced opengl lets your graphics card handle most of the processing, resulting in incredibly faster speeds
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#563 [09:22] <Mumzy> what about GUI Scale?
#564 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> That's the size of the menu, which can be adjusted for larger computer screens
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#566 [09:22] <Mumzy> ok well thanks for the help my minecraft runs again
#567 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#568 [09:23] <Tundmatu> my minecraft wont start
#569 [09:23] <Mumzy> looks like DiskDaemon has another person to help
#570 [09:23] <Mumzy> :D
#571 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> I hope he's joking :)
#572 [09:24] <Tundmatu> i put mod in mine craft but it wont start
#573 [09:24] <Mumzy> :P
#574 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> Tundmatu: Me old fellah - what seems to be the problem?
#575 [09:24] <Tundmatu> it black screen??
#576 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> Why did it black screen?
#577 [09:24] <Tundmatu> i install mod?
#578 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> I suspect that's true.
#579 [09:25] <Tundmatu> okay, this was boring
#580 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> :)
#581 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> Someone came in yesterday though wanting to troubleshoot, so I took him through an exercise in doing that with a server on my laptop that can't connect. That was interesting
#582 [09:26] <Tundmatu> :p
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#584 [09:31] <Guest467642> i minecraft cant
#585 [09:31] <Tundmatu> DiskDaemon: totally not me^
#586 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> It's currently 1:30am for me, but I'll give it a go
#587 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> Guest467642: What seems to be the problem?
#588 [09:32] <Guest467642> i cant minecraft
#589 [09:32] <Guest467642> black
#590 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> Have you ever been able to play it before?
#591 [09:33] <Guest467642> yes
#592 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> Please provide some details about what led up to the event where it was no longer playable
#593 [09:34] <Guest467642> i closed it
#594 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> I spy with my little eye, someone going by the name of Necrodoom
#595 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> I spy with my little eye, someone going by the name of Necrodoom
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#597 [09:36] <DiskDaemon> bingo :)
#598 [09:36] <zen> xD
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#600 [09:37] <Necrodoom> oh sorry, someone on my net
#601 [09:37] <DiskDaemon> hah yeah right :)
#602 [09:37] <Necrodoom> it wont happen again
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#604 [09:56] <kameron7861> how do i add blocks, when I right click, it does not allwo me to add the blocks
#605 [09:57] <Calinou> kameron7861, on most multiplayer servers, you cannot add or remove blocks near the spawn point
#606 [09:57] <Calinou> you have to go further away from the spawn point
#607 [09:57] <Calinou> also, you can't place blocks "in" yourself
#608 [09:58] <kameron7861> i'm on signle player
#609 [09:58] <kameron7861> i could yesterday and now I can't
#610 [09:58] <Calinou> did you change the key to "Use"?
#611 [09:58] <Calinou> it should be bound to right click
#612 [09:58] <kameron7861> no we did not
#613 [09:58] <kameron7861> when I right click nothing happens.
#614 [09:59] <kameron7861> we can only delete blocks
#615 [09:59] <lutzee> "we" you mean "i" we would still mean multiplayer
#616 [10:00] <kameron7861> sorry, typing for my son, he is the only one playing
#617 [10:00] <kameron7861> single player mode
#618 [10:00] <lutzee> ah right okay,
#619 [10:01] <lutzee> are you playing with the snapshot prerelease?
#620 [10:01] <kameron7861> I'm not sure what that is? I just bought it last night
#621 [10:02] <lutzee> ah okay
#622 [10:02] <Calinou> kameron7861, if you want to build under your feet, you have to jump first, too
#623 [10:03] <Calinou> also, you cannot build in another block most of the time, such as torches, ladders, signs...
#624 [10:03] <kameron7861> i know that but i cant build a block at all
#625 [10:04] <kameron7861> i can only delete a block
#626 [10:06] <kameron7861> hello
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#628 [10:07] <lutzee> kameron7861, i'm thinks one second
#629 [10:10] <kameron7861> hello
#630 [10:11] <kameron7861> HELLO
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#633 [10:18] <wotertool> Hello, I would like to know if I can move my MC Folder to my external harddisc (so I can remove it from C:\)
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#636 [10:20] <o_be_one> Hi all !
#637 [10:20] <tikker> hi
#638 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> Yes you can. You can also use a launcher called Magic Launcher to easily load Minecraft from that different location
#639 [10:21] <o_be_one> I've a question about Minecraft and domain ip redirecting (nat)
#640 [10:21] <tikker> what is the problem
#641 [10:22] <o_be_one> i've 2 servers : S1 and S2. Web is on S1 (domain name too), MC is on S2 (but it need to use the same domaine name as web)
#642 [10:22] <o_be_one> i've tried to make nat redirection with iptables, following some help on Google (blog, etc.)
#643 [10:22] <wotertool> But everytime when I move MC and delete it from C:\ it makes a new folder as soon as I start it
#644 [10:22] <o_be_one> these rules seems to work but for MC i've timeout :/
#645 [10:23] <o_be_one> domain.tld need to point Web on S1 AND MC on S2 :/
#646 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> wotertool: It will always use the default unless it's told to use something else. Launchers such as Magic Launcher can do that for you.
#647 [10:23] <wotertool> Ok thank you
#648 [10:24] <tikker> i'm sorry o_be_one, i'm afraid I can't help you with this :/
#649 [10:24] <o_be_one> np, my problem is more Linux than MC, but i think this question was already asked
#650 [10:25] <tikker> maybe this can be of help: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-redirecting-network-traffic-a-new-ip-using-iptables
#651 [10:25] <lutzee> you might get more help in #bukkit for servers they probably know more unless theres someone from a server hosting company arround (ac3xx you maybe? :P )
#652 [10:27] <o_be_one> thank you ticker and lutzee ^^
#653 [10:29] <wotertool> Thank you very much for that Magic Launcher, it's also usable for mods!
#654 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#656 [10:35] <o_be_one> question : have you a tool to check mc server on IRC ?
#657 [10:36] <tikker> what do you mean
#658 [10:36] <lutzee> whats the IP?
#659 [10:37] <tikker> just add the server to your mc serverlist
#660 [10:37] <tikker> it will indicate wether the server is up, but through IRC i don't think there is one
#661 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> We can use !check <ip-address> to check if a server is up and going
#662 [10:38] <lutzee> !check 176.9.33.4
#663 [10:38] <o_be_one> thank you
#664 [10:38] <o_be_one> !check r0x.fr
#665 [10:38] <tikker> !check 88.159.208.191
#666 [10:38] <tikker> wow nice
#667 [10:39] <tikker> how is that done btw
#668 [10:39] <o_be_one> with this, this channel as already helped me ^^ ! (motd too long)
#669 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> It's a script that the bot runs
#670 [10:39] <o_be_one> TCL script ?
#671 [10:39] <tikker> how do you do a bot thing, i know there is a bot command, but in my channel, how do i set it up
#672 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine might be able to answer that
#673 [10:40] <DiskDaemon> or Wug, or Mollstam I think
#674 [10:40] <tikker> is mollstam in here THE mollstam?
#675 [10:40] <o_be_one> ok, cause i'm looking in the future for a bot that can i check mc servers (eggdrop no prob)
#676 [10:40] <Boreeas> Yes
#677 [10:40] <Boreeas> Let's highlight him some more
#678 [10:40] <tikker> :)
#679 [10:41] <DiskDaemon> ding ding ding :)
#680 [10:44] <SinZ> tikker: yes, its THE mollstam
#681 [10:44] <tikker> :)
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#683 [10:44] <lutzee> he's probably not even connected anyway
#684 [10:44] <lutzee> he's probably not even connected anyway
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#686 [10:45] <SinZ> * [mollstam] idle 259:06:49
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#688 [10:47] <xPROMANERx> how do i save my multiplayer world so i can play it after an update?
#689 [10:48] <SinZ> they dont delete themselfs...
#690 [10:48] <tikker> servers save automatically
#691 [10:48] <tikker> or you can force a save by doing /save-all
#692 [10:48] <xPROMANERx> so after the new update i wont have to make a new world
#693 [10:48] <xPROMANERx> ?
#694 [10:48] <tikker> no
#695 [10:49] <xPROMANERx> ok thank you
#696 [10:49] <tikker> you do have to make a new world if you want the new features
#697 [10:49] <SinZ> apart from trading, that would work
#698 [10:49] <tikker> or you have to travel away from the already generated terrain
#699 [10:49] <xPROMANERx> oh is there a way i can save this world
#700 [10:49] <xPROMANERx> so i can use it with the update
#701 [10:49] <SinZ> save it, then rename and/or copy to different location
#702 [10:49] <SinZ> and there is a built in converter
#703 [10:49] <lutzee> only terrain gen parts of the updates wont occur unless you generate more land
#704 [10:50] <xPROMANERx> thank you
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#707 [10:57] <Guest> Has anyone heard of problems with doing multiplayer servers after downloading the latest snapshot?
#708 [10:57] <Guest> I keep getting "Connection Lost Internal Exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
#709 [10:58] <tikker> not yet
#710 [10:58] <tikker> but it may be caused by the new lan option for singleplayer worlds
#711 [10:58] <tikker|afk> gonna join the spleef world cup 2012 :)
#712 [10:59] <Guest> I've tried joining different servers, but I get the error every time...
#713 [11:00] <lutzee> Guest, you are playing witht the snapshot on your client too right?
#714 [11:01] <Guest> yeah
#715 [11:01] <Guest> No problems in one player
#716 [11:02] <SinZ> Snapshot clients require snapshot server
#717 [11:02] <Guest> ohhh... so I can't go back to the same servers I was on pre-snapshot?
#718 [11:02] <SinZ> if you force-update, you can
#719 [11:02] <Guest> but then I lose the snapshot, right?
#720 [11:03] <SinZ> unless you reinstall it, yes
#721 [11:03] <Guest> so I can either have the snapshot or the servers XD
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#723 [11:06] <Guest> would you recommend force-updating every time I want to play multiplayer and then reinstalling the snapshot when I want to play oneplayer?
#724 [11:06] <Guest> Seems kind of silly...
#725 [11:07] <lutzee> Theres a launcher called multimc that lets you have multiple copies of minecraft
#726 [11:07] <Guest> oh?
#727 [11:07] <Necrodoom> i dont play 1.3 snapshot, but if i did, id use a custom launcher for MP
#728 [11:07] <Guest> how does one obtain this launcher?
#729 [11:08] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1000645-multimc-31-windows-linux-mac/
#730 [11:09] <Guest> awesome
#731 [11:09] <Guest> thanks a bunch :)
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#733 [11:18] <Morvar> Hello. I just bought minecraft and I'm already having problems launching it
#734 [11:18] <Morvar> Updated my java 64 as it told in order to set the settings to highest but now the .exe won't even start. Any ideas?
#735 [11:20] <lutzee> Morvar, do you have more than one version of java installed?
#736 [11:20] <tikker|afk> run it through cmd
#737 [11:21] <tikker|afk> i run it like this: java -Xms800m -jar "C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\Minecraft.exe
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#739 [11:22] <DiskDaemon> After updating Java, are you now getting no internet access from the launcher?
#740 [11:22] <Morvar> I'm not sure yet if I have another java, just ran an update and restarted my system
#741 [11:23] <Morvar> I can't even get to the launcher anymore. Before the update I couldn't login in the launcher
#742 [11:23] <Morvar> And for that cmd way, gives me an error, during initializing of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/object
#743 [11:23] <tikker|afk> seems your java installation is corrupt
#744 [11:23] * |Kiichan| things java needs to be removed and reinstalled completely
#744 [11:24] <tikker|afk> what Kiichan thinks
#745 [11:24] <Morvar> I'll try reinstalling java
#746 [11:24] <mikeyz> ??< problem
#747 [11:25] * mikeyz says yes, i am back
#747 [11:29] <Morvar> At least the downloaded launcer started now after uninstalling all javas
#748 [11:29] <tikker|afk> what is your problem mikeyz?
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#750 [11:30] <Morvar> "Can't connect to minecraft.net" again. I suppose I'll install the newest java again now
#751 [11:30] <lutzee> Morvar, are you using java7?
#752 [11:31] <Morvar> I just uninstalled all javas except the developer kit so I'm not sure what it's using for the launcher
#753 [11:31] <Morvar> I'll install this v7 update 5
#754 [11:31] <lutzee> no
#755 [11:31] <lutzee> install java 6
#756 [11:31] <Morvar> Ah, alright
#757 [11:36] <Morvar> Hurray :) It worked now with cmd. Thanks guys!
#758 [11:38] <tikker> won a superjump game on de spleefworldcup 2012 :D
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#761 [11:44] <langkid1> what's going on
#762 [11:44] <kleinebaas> Nothing much
#763 [11:45] <kleinebaas> everybody is idling
#764 [11:45] <langkid1> Bored.
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#766 [11:45] <langkid1> where's 1.3 when you need it
#767 [11:45] <philipsnostrum> Hi everyone
#768 [11:45] <philipsnostrum> how do i install modloader?
#769 [11:46] <philipsnostrum> ive opened minecraft.jar with winrar, deleted meta-inf, draged and droped all the classes and i have a black screen when i login
#770 [11:49] <kleinebaas> What minecraft version do you have?
#771 [11:49] <kleinebaas> 1.2.5 I assume?
#772 [11:50] <kleinebaas> Anyways, do a Force Update (options, force update)
#773 [11:50] <kleinebaas> Download the lastest modloader
#774 [11:50] <kleinebaas> Drag and drop all the files
#775 [11:51] <kleinebaas> and last, delete meta-inf
#776 [11:51] <kleinebaas> Supposed tow ork
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#778 [11:52] <stuartspider> hello
#779 [11:52] <stuartspider> ?
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#781 [11:53] <stuartspider> i am having problems with minecraft
#782 [11:53] <stuartspider> can u help me?
#783 [11:54] <tikker> what is the problem
#784 [11:54] <stuartspider> im trying to update it but i gets stuck on minecraft.jar 33%
#785 [11:54] <stuartspider> i just purchased it and havent played premium yet
#786 [11:54] <stuartspider> i just purchased it and havent played premium yet
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#788 [11:55] <tikker> are you playing it from the client or browser
#789 [11:55] <tikker> try both
#790 [11:55] <stuartspider> client
#791 [11:55] <stuartspider> i have also tried to play tekkit but it does the same thing, stops starting
#792 [11:55] <stuartspider> does that have anything to do with it?
#793 [11:56] <tikker> try the browser
#794 [11:56] <stuartspider> just did. The same thing happens
#795 [11:57] <stuartspider> what can i do?
#796 [11:57] <stuartspider> oh wait
#797 [11:58] <stuartspider> it said failed to launch minecraft
#798 [11:58] <tikker> mmm weird
#799 [11:58] <stuartspider> i have reset the computer several times and updated java
#800 [11:58] <tikker> go to %appdata%/.minecraft
#801 [11:58] <tikker> back up the bin folder
#802 [11:58] <tikker> then delete it
#803 [11:58] <tikker> and try again
#804 [11:59] <tikker> in the launcher click options and then force update
#805 [11:59] * o_be_one is away: auto-away
#805 [11:59] <stuartspider> i cant find the folder
#806 [12:01] <stuartspider> the folder isnt there. I go to the minecraft folder and all it says is 'minecraft on the web'
#807 [12:01] <tikker> thats weird
#808 [12:01] <tikker> minecraft on the web?
#809 [12:01] <tikker> that shouldn't be there
#810 [12:02] <stuartspider> yep with a link
#811 [12:02] <tikker> what link
#812 [12:02] <tikker> what does it say
#813 [12:02] <tikker> don't click it
#814 [12:02] <stuartspider> it goes to minecraft.net
#815 [12:02] <stuartspider> thats it
#816 [12:02] <tikker> mmm
#817 [12:02] <stuartspider> the folders empty
#818 [12:02] <tikker> well, run the launcher, click options and then click force update
#819 [12:02] <tikker> see if that helps
#820 [12:03] <tikker> unfortunately i have to go now, dinner, so i won't be able to help you from here if that fails too, if it does work, glad i could help otherwise, sorry
#821 [12:03] <stuartspider> i clicked on force update, shall i log in?
#822 [12:04] <stuartspider> bye
#823 [12:07] <Morvar> By the way can I play this game somehow in 1080p?
#824 [12:07] <stuartspider> can anyone help me?
#825 [12:07] <Grim_Reaper> Get a huge tv Morvar
#826 [12:08] <Grim_Reaper> And maximize it
#827 [12:08] <Morvar> I do have 46" one
#828 [12:08] <Grim_Reaper> Then you're sorted :3
#829 [12:08] <DiskDaemon> You can play it in 1440p, or 1600p, however wide your computer monitor can take it
#830 [12:08] <Morvar> Alt + enter doesn't work
#831 [12:08] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#832 [12:08] <Grim_Reaper> Morvar just press the maximize button
#833 [12:08] <Grim_Reaper> Unless you get a mod for fullscreen
#834 [12:08] <Morvar> Ahh! Dump me
#835 [12:09] <Morvar> Thanks again
#836 [12:09] <Grim_Reaper> \o anytime
#837 [12:09] * Grim_Reaper grins evily for stealing DiskDaemon's "customer"
#837 [12:09] <lutzee> wait optifine adds fullscreen? i assumed that was a vanilla feature xD#
#838 [12:09] <Grim_Reaper> lol..
#839 [12:09] <DiskDaemon> You can have him, I'm past 4am at this stage :)
#840 [12:09] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#841 [12:12] <DiskDaemon> For some reason, when I take my glasses off the laptop screen looks like a trapezoid
#842 [12:12] <Grim_Reaper> It's a traaap D:
#843 [12:14] <DiskDaemon> *zoidberg* It's toe-tappingly tagic
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#856 [13:21] <Chee> i need help i am haveing problums with miecraft. the open gl error keeps poping up.
#857 [13:24] <Chee> it was working yesterday and i started my computer today and then it was giveing me that error open gl "Bad video driver" i have tryed updateing all my drivers and even my computer but it still dose not work pleas help
#858 [13:25] <Morrolan> Make sure you update your video driver by going to your manufacturer's website, and not through Windows update.
#859 [13:25] <Chee> i did
#860 [13:26] <Chee> they say its up to date
#861 [13:26] <Morrolan> Who says?
#862 [13:26] <Chee> intel
#863 [13:27] <Chee> a program ran a test on the intel site and it says my drives are up to date
#864 [13:29] <Chee> i tryed doing a system restore but it did not help
#865 [13:31] <Calinou> Chee, integrated graphics don't run minecraft playably anyway
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#867 [13:31] <Calinou> you need a dedicated video card to enjoy minecraft
#868 [13:31] <Calinou> else it'll be insanely slow
#869 [13:31] <Calinou> else it'll be insanely slow
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#871 [13:32] <geraldbrent> It can play it, but with tons of latency.
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#873 [13:35] <Chee> I cant play thow a white screen comes up after i log in i never even get to the main screen
#874 [13:36] <Chee> it says this: Bad video card drivers! Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode.--- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 --------Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5
#875 [13:38] <Chee> OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation
#876 [13:38] <Chee> LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#877 [13:38] <Chee> and then it gos in to codeiing
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#879 [13:42] <Chee> at first i thoght it was from the mods ii added 3 days ago so i deleted the .minecraft forlder and that did not work so it has to be something else
#880 [13:42] <Calinou> > fix your graphic card drivers
#881 [13:42] <Calinou> <geraldbrent> It can play it, but with tons of latency.
#882 [13:42] <Chee> how?
#883 [13:42] <Calinou> latency/lag != low FPS
#884 [13:42] <Calinou> Chee, try to reinstall the correct ones? don't use the automatic detection tool, too
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#888 [13:43] <Chee> i have xp where do i go?
#889 [13:45] <Chee> so am i unstalling it or just updateing it
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#891 [13:46] <Calinou> Chee, how old is your computer, btw?
#892 [13:46] <Chee> i dont know its a IBM
#893 [13:46] <Calinou> ^ probably pretty old then
#894 [13:46] <Calinou> don't try to run minecraft on this
#895 [13:47] <Chee> Its used I got it 2 years a go
#896 [13:47] <Calinou> ^ old computer then
#897 [13:47] <Calinou> get a better computer, that's the only thing you can do
#898 [13:47] <Chee> I dont have lots of Ram should i get more?
#899 [13:48] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance
#900 [13:48] <Calinou> see the hardware requirements
#901 [13:49] <KevinJ> My server has been running fine forever, until now. Now when my friends join, it crashes after a few seconds. How do I fix this? It freezes and I can't even close the server application without ending its process.
#902 [13:50] <Chee> i have 0.99GB of ram is that good?
#903 [13:51] <nekronuke> no
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#905 [13:51] <Calinou> 1GB runs minecraft fine, but you should definitely get a real graphics card
#906 [13:51] <Calinou> and a dual-core CPU if you haven't already
#907 [13:52] <mikeyz> ?? specs
#908 [13:52] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#909 [13:52] <mikeyz> kevinJ
#910 [13:52] <Calinou> KevinJ, try using the .jar server not the .exe
#911 [13:52] <Chee> I have dual-core CPU
#912 [13:52] <KevinJ> windows 7, 8 gigs ram
#913 [13:52] <Calinou> .exe sucks
#914 [13:52] <KevinJ> i use a jar
#915 [13:52] <Calinou> oh okay... using the "nogui" parameter?
#916 [13:53] <KevinJ> what is that?
#917 [13:53] <Calinou> nevermind
#918 [13:53] <Calinou> KevinJ, did you set up port forwarding properly? (25565 in TCP is default)
#919 [13:53] <Calinou> also, do you have any firewall?
#920 [13:53] <mikeyz> technically its an argument
#921 [13:54] <KevinJ> i did turn off firewalls but i am not certain about my port forwarding
#922 [13:54] <KevinJ> all i know is i have a hamachi thing
#923 [13:54] <Calinou> KevinJ, stop the server, and rename the "world" folder to "old_world"
#924 [13:54] <dangeroh> help please i would like to play but i am stuck on the payment area
#925 [13:54] <Calinou> and restart the server
#926 [13:54] <Calinou> also, hamashit. don't use it.
#927 [13:54] <KevinJ> okay
#928 [13:54] <Calinou> dangeroh, explain please? ;)
#929 [13:54] <dangeroh> thanks
#930 [13:55] <Chee> thanks
#931 [13:55] <KevinJ> done
#932 [13:55] <dangeroh> i have put my credit card in and it says it will automatically transfer me to a new page but nothing
#933 [13:55] <Calinou> KevinJ, and now, does it work?
#934 [13:55] <Calinou> ?? payment
#935 [13:55] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#936 [13:55] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#937 [13:55] <KevinJ> what should i use instead of hamchi? ill have to have one of my friends login because thats when the issue arises
#938 [13:55] <Calinou> dangeroh, also, most prepaid cards cannot be used to buy minecraft
#939 [13:56] <Calinou> KevinJ, just do real port forwarding, it isn't trivial but it is worthy, and less laggy
#940 [13:56] <Calinou> we don't help with port forwarding here
#941 [13:56] <KevinJ> okay i will look into doing real portforwarding
#942 [13:56] <KevinJ> do you think that would solve the issue?
#943 [13:56] <Calinou> maybe
#944 [13:56] <KevinJ> because hamachi has worked fine until now
#945 [13:57] <Calinou> oh, maybe it is world corruption then
#946 [13:57] <Calinou> do NOT stop the server using Ctrl+C or the "X" - type "stop" in the console instead!
#947 [13:57] <Calinou> this is VERY important to prevent world corruption
#948 [13:57] <KevinJ> oh i see
#949 [13:57] <Calinou> also, make backups from time to time - copy-paste your "world" folder around
#950 [13:57] <KevinJ> never knew about that one
#951 [13:57] <Calinou> (without quotes, of course)
#952 [13:58] <KevinJ> if the world is corrupted is it effed unless i backed it up?
#953 [13:58] <Calinou> ?? save/null
#954 [13:58] <VoxelHead> save/null: If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#955 [13:58] <VoxelHead> save/null: MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#956 [13:58] <Calinou> ^ maybe you could do this to save your world, not likely though
#957 [14:00] <KevinJ> i'll give that a shot. thanks for your advice, if i have any further questions i'll check back in some other time
#958 [14:06] <mikeyz> i like voxel
#959 [14:06] <mikeyz> ??< bot
#960 [14:06] <mikeyz> ??< voxel
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#963 [14:08] * mikeyz sighs
#963 [14:08] <mikeyz> Calinou what does ctrl+c do?
#964 [14:08] <ryan250lc> im having problems with openGL on windows 7 < all of my drivers are up to date help anyone ?
#965 [14:09] <mikeyz> sore
#966 [14:09] <mikeyz> you playing with standalone in minecraft
#967 [14:09] <mikeyz> browser or .exe
#968 [14:09] <mikeyz> ??< pm
#969 [14:09] <ryan250lc> .exe
#970 [14:10] <mikeyz> ok
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#972 [14:10] <mikeyz> ??< error/javacrash
#973 [14:10] <awkwardginger> I keep trying to download minecraft and it almost finishes and says done loading but never opens
#974 [14:10] <mikeyz> where your launcher is located minecraft creates a dump file
#975 [14:10] <mikeyz> if it fails
#976 [14:11] <mikeyz> can you plaste it here
#977 [14:11] <mikeyz> ?? plstebin
#978 [14:11] <mikeyz> ??pastebin
#979 [14:11] <mikeyz> ?? pastebin
#980 [14:11] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#981 [14:11] <mikeyz> there
#982 [14:11] <mikeyz> ryan250lc, got that?
#983 [14:12] <mikeyz> ??< java/jdk/7u1
#984 [14:12] <Calinou> mikeyz, "cancels" the current process in command line
#985 [14:12] <Calinou> also, VoxelHead's help is here:
#986 [14:12] <Calinou> ?? index
#987 [14:12] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#988 [14:13] <mikeyz> yeah i have that up
#989 [14:13] <mikeyz> what are you talking about canceling proccess on command line
#990 [14:13] <ryan250lc> what do you mean dump file ? excuse me im not any good on pc's :D
#991 [14:13] <Calinou> just don't do it unless you really have to do it (unresponsive process or such)
#992 [14:14] <mikeyz> awkwardginger, do you know how to open up minecraft in command line
#993 [14:14] <Calinou> it's easy :P
#994 [14:14] <mikeyz> oh he left :(
#995 [14:14] <mikeyz> where is the launcher located
#996 [14:14] <Calinou> ryan250lc, do not use windows update, use the manufacturer's website
#997 [14:14] <Calinou> mikeyz, no, we don't need to run MC in command line
#998 [14:14] <mikeyz> for when you start minecraft
#999 [14:14] <ryan250lc> desktop
#1000 [14:14] <Calinou> -_-
#1001 [14:14] <mikeyz> i was talking to someone else
#1002 [14:15] <Calinou> manufacturer = AMD, intel or nvidia.
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#1004 [14:15] <Calinou> ryan250lc, what is your graphics card?
#1005 [14:15] <mikeyz> is there a bot thing to do that automatically?
#1006 [14:15] <ryan250lc> its a raedon x1650
#1007 [14:15] <mikeyz> to run it automatically
#1008 [14:15] <Calinou> ryan250lc, then go to AMD's website
#1009 [14:15] <Calinou> ?? gpu/amd
#1010 [14:15] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1011 [14:15] <mikeyz> ??< only/you
#1012 [14:17] <mikeyz> Calinou, why not get the dump file?
#1013 [14:17] <mikeyz> cand make sure there
#1014 [14:17] <mikeyz> and*
#1015 [14:17] <mikeyz> is that just a waste of time?
#1016 [14:17] <Calinou> ryan250lc, well, download drivers from AMD's website and it should work.
#1017 [14:17] <Calinou> don't let windows update touch your drivers
#1018 [14:17] <Calinou> mikeyz, not right now - if it still doesn't work, yes
#1019 [14:17] <mikeyz> ok good to kow
#1020 [14:19] <mikeyz> Calinou, is there a program, programmed in voxelHead, that will link the user to a peogram to run in command line so we can see the stack traces thrown?
#1021 [14:19] <Calinou> no, it is easy
#1022 [14:19] <mikeyz> ok
#1023 [14:19] <Calinou> download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar > put in desktop > shift+right click "open command line here" > type this: java -jar -Xms1G -Xmx1G minecraft.jar
#1024 [14:19] <Calinou> ;)
#1025 [14:20] <ryan250lc> thanks guys :)
#1026 [14:20] <Calinou> np
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#1028 [14:24] <mikeyz> ??< win/ie
#1029 [14:24] <mikeyz> ??< win/profile
#1030 [14:25] <mikeyz> /
#1031 [14:25] <mikeyz> /
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#1033 [14:27] <mikeyz> any ideas as to when 1.3 is coming?
#1034 [14:27] <Morrolan> When it's done.
#1035 [14:28] <Morrolan> Supposed to be sometime this summer though, IIRC.
#1036 [14:28] <Morrolan> Supposed to be sometime this summer though, IIRC.
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#1039 [14:30] <mikeyz> fair enough
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#1041 [14:31] <Wipefeetnmat> I can't get on any Minecraft servers. What might be the problem? PLZ help!
#1042 [14:33] <Wipefeetnmat> Anyone??? PLZ
#1043 [14:33] <langkid1> Wipefeetnmat, tell us the error
#1044 [14:33] <langkid1> ??ask
#1045 [14:33] <langkid1> ?? ask
#1046 [14:33] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1047 [14:33] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1048 [14:34] <Wipefeetnmat> I can't get on any Multiplayer servers.
#1049 [14:35] <langkid1> Wipefeetnmat, what error do you get when trying to connect
#1050 [14:35] <Morrolan> Wipefeetnmat - To make sure that it's not just a problem with the servers you've tried so far, please try minecraft.lethal-zone.eu
#1051 [14:35] <Wipefeetnmat> Hang on I will check.
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#1054 [14:38] <Wipefeetnmat> It says Failed to connect. You failed to connect to the server. Its probably down.
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#1056 [14:40] <Wipefeetnmat> HELP!
#1057 [14:40] <wyldone> can i use a walmart moneycard to purchase minecraft?
#1058 [14:42] <Wipefeetnmat> !!!
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#1060 [14:43] <Wipefeetnmat> I cant get on any multiplayer servers can someone help please!
#1061 [14:43] <mikeyz> Wipefeetnmat try connecting to another server
#1062 [14:44] <Wipefeetnmat> I did
#1063 [14:44] <mikeyz> connect to minecraft.rawcritics.com
#1064 [14:44] <Wipefeetnmat> Five different ones!
#1065 [14:44] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1066 [14:44] <wyldone> can i use a walmart moneycard to purchase minecraft?
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#1068 [14:45] <Wipefeetnmat> What do i do on rawcritics?
#1069 [14:46] <mikeyz> did you connect to it?
#1070 [14:46] <langkid1> wyldone, is it from a major card provider? (visa, mastercard, discover)
#1071 [14:46] <Wipefeetnmat> Went on the site
#1072 [14:46] <mikeyz> connect to it from minecraft
#1073 [14:46] <mikeyz> see if it works
#1074 [14:47] <Wipefeetnmat> How?
#1075 [14:47] <mikeyz> to the minecraft server
#1076 [14:47] <mikeyz> in minecraft please tell me how you join mulitplayer servers
#1077 [14:47] <mikeyz> like i click on this button and then....
#1078 [14:47] <Wipefeetnmat> I click classic multiplayer
#1079 [14:48] <Wipefeetnmat> then i click the server from the list
#1080 [14:48] <mikeyz> oh so your playing classic
#1081 [14:48] <Wipefeetnmat> Ya Beta doesnt work either
#1082 [14:48] <Wipefeetnmat> I tried
#1083 [14:48] <mikeyz> go into the paid version
#1084 [14:48] <Wipefeetnmat> I did
#1085 [14:48] <mikeyz> and try to connect
#1086 [14:49] <langkid1> Try again.
#1087 [14:49] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1088 [14:49] <mikeyz> how do you connect to multiplayer servers in the full version
#1089 [14:49] <Wipefeetnmat> In browser
#1090 [14:49] <mikeyz> ??< mc/standalone
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#1092 [14:50] <mikeyz> ?? win/client
#1093 [14:50] <VoxelHead> win/client: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1094 [14:50] <Wipefeetnmat> ?????
#1095 [14:50] <mikeyz> use that, you running windws?
#1096 [14:50] <Wipefeetnmat> yes
#1097 [14:50] <mikeyz> download and run that
#1098 [14:51] <Calinou> mikeyz, avoid the .exe launcher, use the .jar launcher...
#1099 [14:51] <Calinou> far less buggy
#1100 [14:51] <Wipefeetnmat> It says it wont download
#1101 [14:51] <mikeyz> i use the .exe....
#1102 [14:51] <langkid1> Wipefeetnmat, paste the error at http://pastebin.com
#1103 [14:51] <mikeyz> should i switch?
#1104 [14:51] <mikeyz> ?? linux/client
#1105 [14:51] <VoxelHead> linux/client: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#1106 [14:51] <mikeyz> download that then
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#1108 [14:52] <FreeDom> Hi !
#1109 [14:52] <Wipefeetnmat> Its working
#1110 [14:53] <mikeyz> yay
#1111 [14:53] <mikeyz> have fun playing multiplayer
#1112 [14:53] <Wipefeetnmat> Still says Cant conect :(
#1113 [14:53] <langkid1> what's the EXACT error
#1114 [14:54] <mikeyz> ....
#1115 [14:54] <mikeyz> ok
#1116 [14:54] <Wipefeetnmat> Cant reach server
#1117 [14:54] <langkid1> it's the server
#1118 [14:54] <Wipefeetnmat> .
#1119 [14:54] <mikeyz> connect to minecraft.rawcritics.com
#1120 [14:54] <langkid1> Wipefeetnmat, did you check to make sure that the server's up?
#1121 [14:54] <mikeyz> that server is live
#1122 [14:55] <Wipefeetnmat> Im trying a diff server
#1123 [14:56] <Calinou> mikeyz, that's a nice advertisement you have there, would be a shame if something happened to it
#1124 [14:56] <mikeyz> not tring to advertise
#1125 [14:56] <mikeyz> that was not my intent
#1126 [14:57] <mikeyz> i see where your coming from, however
#1127 [14:57] <mikeyz> its just the server im playing on now and i am sure its live
#1128 [14:57] <mikeyz> thats all
#1129 [14:58] <mikeyz> is there a problem with that?
#1130 [14:58] <_303> !check minecraft.rawcritics.com
#1131 [14:58] <Wipefeetnmat> Wont even pull up the site!
#1132 [14:59] <langkid1> !check minecraft.rawcritics.com
#1133 [14:59] * langkid1 glares at _303
#1133 [14:59] <langkid1> :)
#1134 [14:59] <mikeyz> yeah, thats about right...
#1135 [14:59] <Wipefeetnmat> It says oops Internet explorer could not connect to THE SITE
#1136 [15:00] <langkid1> Wipefeetnmat, you don't understand
#1137 [15:00] <langkid1> type "minecraft.rawcritics.com" in the Minecraft Direct connect menu
#1138 [15:00] <Wipefeetnmat> Understand what?
#1139 [15:00] <langkid1> Try to connect
#1140 [15:00] <Wipefeetnmat> OHHHH
#1141 [15:00] <mikeyz> ......
#1142 [15:00] <langkid1> You don't open that link in a web browsser >_>
#1143 [15:00] <mikeyz> .......
#1144 [15:01] <langkid1> Oh community.
#1145 [15:01] <mikeyz> thats why i asked you to to say i click this button, then this
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#1147 [15:01] <mikeyz> langkid1, so true
#1148 [15:01] <langkid1> Incoming.
#1149 [15:01] <RoidRage> Any staff on?
#1150 [15:01] <mikeyz> what?
#1151 [15:01] <mikeyz> oh haha
#1152 [15:02] <Wipefeetnmat> Connection timed out....
#1153 [15:03] <mikeyz> find a new server
#1154 [15:03] <Wipefeetnmat> None work....
#1155 [15:03] <Wipefeetnmat> Tried four diff ones....
#1156 [15:03] <mikeyz> intresting\
#1157 [15:04] <Wipefeetnmat> yup
#1158 [15:04] <mikeyz> tell me every step you take to connect to a server, starting with opening up minecraft
#1159 [15:05] <Wipefeetnmat> I go to minecraft.net i login i click on open server in browser then i type in the IP
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#1161 [15:06] <RoidRage> Can anyone help me?
#1162 [15:06] <mikeyz> use the standalone client
#1163 [15:06] <mikeyz> ?? ask
#1164 [15:06] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1165 [15:06] <RoidRage> I've been having a problem "can't reach server" for the past couple days
#1166 [15:06] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1167 [15:07] <Wipefeetnmat> SAME WITH ME!!!
#1168 [15:07] <RoidRage> I've re-downloaded the game
#1169 [15:07] <RoidRage> Reset my internet...
#1170 [15:07] <RoidRage> Restarted my computer
#1171 [15:07] <mikeyz> roid have you connected before
#1172 [15:07] <RoidRage> It works fine on the browser not the client
#1173 [15:07] <RoidRage> Yes it just started happening 2 days ago
#1174 [15:07] <Wipefeetnmat> So how do i use standalone client??
#1175 [15:07] <Wipefeetnmat> Me too
#1176 [15:07] <RoidRage> I downgraded my java
#1177 [15:07] <RoidRage> to version 6
#1178 [15:08] <RoidRage> That didn't help
#1179 [15:08] <mikeyz> what does it say when it fails?
#1180 [15:08] <RoidRage> "cant reach server"
#1181 [15:08] <mikeyz> like : COnnection timed out?
#1182 [15:08] <RoidRage> It won't even let me join
#1183 [15:08] <mikeyz> try a new server
#1184 [15:08] <Wipefeetnmat> YES
#1185 [15:09] <mikeyz> what is the ip?
#1186 [15:09] <mikeyz> the ip you use
#1187 [15:09] <Wipefeetnmat> How do i use stand alone clientz????
#1188 [15:09] <mikeyz> ill explain in a minute
#1189 [15:09] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1190 [15:09] <RoidRage> well... I lost all of them since I re-downloaded but the ones I try on minecraft forums they don't work
#1191 [15:09] <mikeyz> try minecraft.rawcritics.com
#1192 [15:10] <mikeyz> as the IP
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#1194 [15:10] <mikeyz> if someone knows a better test IP tell me please
#1195 [15:10] <mikeyz> NO intent of advertising
#1196 [15:10] <dangeroh> how do i now if money booker has taken my payment and when i can play?
#1197 [15:10] <RoidRage> Ok that one works I guess the other ones I've been trying are down...
#1198 [15:10] <RoidRage> But I tried a lot
#1199 [15:11] <RoidRage> on the front page of minecraft forums
#1200 [15:11] <Wipefeetnmat> I have one which isnt mine?
#1201 [15:11] <mikeyz> yeah then its just the servers
#1202 [15:11] <Wipefeetnmat> .
#1203 [15:11] <mikeyz> Wipefeetnmat,
#1204 [15:11] <mikeyz> download this
#1205 [15:11] <Wipefeetnmat> ya
#1206 [15:11] <Wipefeetnmat> twhat
#1207 [15:11] <mikeyz> ?? linux/client
#1208 [15:11] <VoxelHead> linux/client: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#1209 [15:11] <mikeyz> then place it on your desktop
#1210 [15:12] <dangeroh> hello?
#1211 [15:12] <Wipefeetnmat> ok then what
#1212 [15:12] <mikeyz> Wipefeetnmat, place the downloaded file on the desktop
#1213 [15:12] <dangeroh> can mine craft be played on an apple computer
#1214 [15:12] <mikeyz> yes
#1215 [15:12] <mikeyz> ?? mac/client
#1216 [15:12] <VoxelHead> mac/client: http://www.minecraft.net/download/Minecraft.zip
#1217 [15:13] <dangeroh> i did.
#1218 [15:13] <mikeyz> what is the problem
#1219 [15:13] <mikeyz> ??< mac/java
#1220 [15:13] <mikeyz> do you not have java?
#1221 [15:13] <mikeyz> ?? mac/java
#1222 [15:13] <VoxelHead> mac/java: Go here for a Mac-specific Java installer: http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL1421/en_US/JavaForMacOSX10.7.dmg
#1223 [15:13] <dangeroh> i was talking to calinou and i made payment through money booker and when do i know it took my payment?
#1224 [15:13] <dangeroh> i have java
#1225 [15:13] <mikeyz> oh ok
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#1227 [15:14] <mikeyz> Wipefeetnmat , did you get that far?
#1228 [15:14] <dangeroh> i can't seem to play and it's very frustrating.
#1229 [15:14] <Wipefeetnmat> No
#1230 [15:15] <mikeyz> Wipefeetnmat what did you just do
#1231 [15:15] <Wipefeetnmat> Downloaded what u said
#1232 [15:16] <mikeyz> Wipefeetnmat move that file to your desktop
#1233 [15:16] <dangeroh> who do i talk to to find out about payemnt
#1234 [15:17] <Wipefeetnmat> Ok i did
#1235 [15:17] <mikeyz> Wipefeetnmat you there?
#1236 [15:17] <mikeyz> ok double click that file
#1237 [15:17] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1238 [15:17] <mikeyz> now enter your acc info and hit login
#1239 [15:17] <Wipefeetnmat> It says its not valid.
#1240 [15:17] <mikeyz> your username and pass?
#1241 [15:17] <Wipefeetnmat> No the short cut..
#1242 [15:18] <mikeyz> eh?
#1243 [15:18] <mikeyz> how did you move the file?
#1244 [15:18] <Wipefeetnmat> Went into start menu and created shortcut
#1245 [15:18] <mikeyz> no.
#1246 [15:18] <mikeyz> MOVE the file to the DESKTop
#1247 [15:19] <dangeroh> ??
#1248 [15:19] <mikeyz> CLICK and DRAG
#1249 [15:19] <mikeyz> talking to Wipefeetnmat
#1250 [15:19] <mikeyz> ok, now double click that file
#1251 [15:20] <mikeyz> that is now on your desktop
#1252 [15:20] <mikeyz> a screen should pop up
#1253 [15:20] <Wipefeetnmat> Theres three icons
#1254 [15:20] <Wipefeetnmat> twhich one
#1255 [15:20] <mikeyz> the one that says minecraft under it
#1256 [15:20] <Wipefeetnmat> sorry bout the t s before what i say
#1257 [15:21] <mikeyz> say again?
#1258 [15:21] <mikeyz> cant understand
#1259 [15:21] <Wipefeetnmat> NVM
#1260 [15:21] <Wipefeetnmat> ok i went into it
#1261 [15:21] <mikeyz> what is the screen that popped up
#1262 [15:22] <mikeyz> does it say minecraft?
#1263 [15:22] <Wipefeetnmat> Ya then a hole bunch underneath
#1264 [15:22] <Wipefeetnmat> whole*
#1265 [15:22] <mikeyz> ok now enter what you would to log in on minecraft.net and press log in
#1266 [15:23] <mikeyz> there yet?
#1267 [15:24] <Wipefeetnmat> IDK
#1268 [15:24] <Wipefeetnmat> twhat to press
#1269 [15:24] <mikeyz> on the bottom right there are 2 boxes.
#1270 [15:24] <mikeyz> username and password
#1271 [15:24] <Wipefeetnmat> i went into the minecraft shortcut
#1272 [15:24] <Wipefeetnmat> tand it pulled up a list of things
#1273 [15:24] <Wipefeetnmat> which i dont think is wat u want
#1274 [15:24] <mikeyz> enter your name and pass in the minecraft launcher and press login
#1275 [15:25] <Wipefeetnmat> When i go into it it says unable to launch application
#1276 [15:26] <mikeyz> does it say minecraft crashed?
#1277 [15:26] <Wipefeetnmat> No i cant even go into Minecraftlauncher
#1278 [15:26] <mikeyz> ?? teamviewer
#1279 [15:26] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1280 [15:26] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1281 [15:28] <mikeyz> gat that
#1282 [15:28] <Wipefeetnmat> Should i downoad teamviewer?
#1283 [15:28] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1284 [15:28] <mikeyz> yes
#1285 [15:30] <Wipefeetnmat> It needs a partner ID
#1286 [15:30] <Wipefeetnmat> Wait NVM
#1287 [15:30] <mikeyz> tell me your id and pass
#1288 [15:30] <Wipefeetnmat> tnow what
#1289 [15:30] <Wipefeetnmat> ID is
#1290 [15:31] <Wipefeetnmat> 730
#1291 [15:31] <Wipefeetnmat> 466
#1292 [15:31] <Wipefeetnmat> 195
#1293 [15:31] <Wipefeetnmat> Pass is
#1294 [15:31] <Wipefeetnmat> 7822
#1295 [15:32] <langkid1> stupid
#1296 [15:32] <langkid1> Wipefeetnmat, PM it
#1297 [15:32] <Wipefeetnmat> HOW?
#1298 [15:32] <langkid1> to miek
#1299 [15:32] <mikeyz> can i take control
#1300 [15:32] <langkid1> /msg mikeyz I R DERP
#1301 [15:33] <mikeyz> im a derp?
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#1303 [15:34] <mikeyz> get the monecraft launcher
#1304 [15:34] <mikeyz> ill just watch
#1305 [15:34] <Wipefeetnmat> Ok
#1306 [15:34] <mikeyz> minecraft
#1307 [15:35] <mikeyz> ?? linux/client
#1308 [15:35] <VoxelHead> linux/client: http://www.minecraft.net/download/minecraft.jar
#1309 [15:35] <mikeyz> get that
#1310 [15:35] <mikeyz> download above
#1311 [15:36] <mikeyz> save
#1312 [15:36] <mikeyz> open the folder
#1313 [15:36] <mikeyz> here,
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#1317 [15:39] <jorve> does anyone know what to set java environment variables too for java?
#1318 [15:39] <jorve> ive just updated recently
#1319 [15:39] <RoidRage> Does anyone know why I can only join some servers and other says "can't reach server" even though there online?
#1320 [15:39] <Wipefeetnmat> ?? windows/client
#1321 [15:40] <RoidRage> Windows 7
#1322 [15:40] <Wipefeetnmat> ?? win/client
#1323 [15:40] <VoxelHead> win/client: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1324 [15:40] <RoidRage> Minecraft client?
#1325 [15:40] <CoolAndCursed> hey baby
#1326 [15:40] <mikeyz> this is what i wanted to pop up
#1327 [15:40] <mikeyz> this is what i wanted to pop up
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#1329 [15:41] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1330 [15:41] <mikeyz> use your minecraft username for username
#1331 [15:41] <mikeyz> o
#1332 [15:41] <mikeyz> see it works
#1333 [15:43] <mikeyz> try it now
#1334 [15:44] <RoidRage> I keep having a problem with "can't reach server" Once I add the server and connect it says "bad login" after that the server won't even give me a connection it says "can't reach server"
#1335 [15:45] <RoidRage> Can anyone help please?
#1336 [15:47] <mikeyz> i dont knwo
#1337 [15:51] <mikeyz> no idea
#1338 [15:51] <mikeyz> ask someone else
#1339 [15:51] <mikeyz> here:
#1340 [15:51] <clarjon1> RoidRage: try rebooting.
#1341 [15:51] <Wipefeetnmat> Well thanks anyway
#1342 [15:51] <mikeyz> let me write a list of things ive done
#1343 [15:51] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1344 [15:51] <clarjon1> RoidRage: also, it could be that the auth servers are derping
#1345 [15:52] <clarjon1> ( like they often do. )
#1346 [15:52] <clarjon1> ( very. often. )
#1347 [15:52] <clarjon1> RoidRage: if you have further trouble with only certain servers, contact the server owners.
#1348 [15:54] <mikeyz> ok
#1349 [15:54] <mikeyz> my work here is done
#1350 [15:54] <Wipefeetnmat> ok thank you
#1351 [15:54] <mikeyz> ask wug
#1352 [15:54] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1353 [15:54] <mikeyz> when he is on he knows just about everyything
#1354 [15:55] <Wipefeetnmat> ok
#1355 [15:55] <mikeyz> or anyone really
#1356 [15:55] <Wipefeetnmat> ok thanks
#1357 [16:12] <RoidRage> Thanks clarjon
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#1367 [17:17] <Blood_Mind> hey
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#1370 [17:20] <tehguy> can anyone possibly help me with my minecraft problem?
#1371 [17:22] <tehguy> hello?
#1372 [17:24] <NinjaKirby> What's the issue, tehguy?
#1373 [17:25] <tehguy> i start it up using magic launcher, and it comes up with a log saying something along the lines of "cannot reserve enough space for object heap"
#1374 [17:25] <tehguy> i can get you the exact log if you want
#1375 [17:26] <NinjaKirby> Okay, I'm stumped the moment you said Magic Launcher, so you may need to wait for someone knowledgable to appear. If it was a more traditional error, I, another random player may have been able to lend assistance XD
#1376 [17:26] <tehguy> oh ok never mind, thanks anyway
#1377 [17:27] <NinjaKirby> Kinda sounds like a Memory Allocation thing though
#1378 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, the magic launcher is set to launch minecraft with a default memory allocation more than what you have available on the computer
#1379 [17:27] <tehguy> how can i change that?
#1380 [17:28] <NinjaKirby> I was thinking a custom Batch file, to in that case, override what it's requesting? :/
#1381 [17:28] <NinjaKirby> Unless the Launcher would load second by default and override the attempted override, lawdie
#1382 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> As magic launcher is a custom, 3rd-party minecraft launcher, you'll need to find a support forum, or channel for that
#1383 [17:28] <tehguy> oh...
#1384 [17:29] <tehguy> thanks anyway
#1385 [17:29] <tehguy> i'll have a look for magic launcher forums
#1386 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Try searching through: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939149-launcher-magic-launcher-098-mods-options-news/
#1387 [17:30] <tehguy> ok thanks
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#1390 [17:32] <tehguy> would it mabie help if i tried without magic launcher greyvulpine?
#1391 [17:33] <ydeco> can someone help me? everytime i run minecraft it freezes while updating
#1392 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> That's up to you tehguy
#1393 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> ydeco - Has it ever worked before?
#1394 [17:33] <ydeco> yes ive been playing for a month orso
#1395 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> ydeco - By chance, do you run AVG?
#1396 [17:34] <ydeco> i stopped working a few days ago
#1397 [17:34] <ydeco> yes tried temporarily turning it of
#1398 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Temporary turning it off almost never works
#1399 [17:34] <ydeco> also tried deleting .minecraft and installing it again
#1400 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> There's actually a specific module inside AVG that's still active. Try going into AVG's options, and turning off the "linkscanner" module
#1401 [17:35] <ydeco> oke wait a sec
#1402 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Quite often, it's that, which is blocking minecraft from downloading the files
#1403 [17:35] <ydeco> im running a free version btw
#1404 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> That's fine
#1405 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> You'll still have that module there
#1406 [17:35] <ydeco> oke im there
#1407 [17:35] <tehguy> greyvulpine, the actual minecraft.exe doesn't even open
#1408 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> Look for a "Linkscanner" module and disable it
#1409 [17:35] <tehguy> for me
#1410 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> tehguy - How much RAM do you have on the computer?
#1411 [17:36] <tehguy> no idea, how do i find out?
#1412 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#1413 [17:36] <tehguy> yeah
#1414 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> Version?
#1415 [17:36] <tehguy> windows 7, i think
#1416 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> So you see a blue circle in the lower left corner?
#1417 [17:37] <tehguy> the start button? of course
#1418 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Click on it, then right click on "Computer" and go to properties
#1419 [17:37] <tehguy> ok
#1420 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Look for "Installed RAM"
#1421 [17:37] <tehguy> done
#1422 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> What's the number next to it?
#1423 [17:37] <tehguy> 1.00 GB
#1424 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> That may be why
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#1426 [17:38] <lutzee> You need more ram than that to run minecraft
#1427 [17:38] <tehguy> oh, not enough
#1428 [17:38] <tehguy> crap.
#1429 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> You can try manually setting minecraft with lowered RAM arguments, but that's why the .exe doesn't run for you, most likely
#1430 [17:38] <tehguy> i suppose thats what i get for playing on a net book
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#1432 [17:39] <lutzee> I tried that, got 3fps out of it, at best
#1433 [17:39] <tehguy> how do i lower the ram arguments?
#1434 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> You have one gig of RAM. Minecraft.exe takes a minimum of 512 megs of ram, and reserves up to 1 gig
#1435 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> I'm not sure minecraft would run smoothly on your netbook, considering that RAM spec
#1436 [17:39] <ydeco> disabeling that component of avg unfortunately didnt work either
#1437 [17:39] <tehguy> how do i lower, as it used to work
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#1439 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> ydeco - Uninstall AVG, and try minecraft
#1440 [17:39] <GreyVulpine> If that works, I'd ditch AVG for something better
#1441 [17:40] <clarjon1> ewww, AVG
#1442 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> tehguy - Go to http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1443 [17:40] <ydeco> how would uninstalling it be different from disabeling it?
#1444 [17:40] <lutzee> my friend runs avast
#1445 [17:40] <tehguy> ok
#1446 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Find the linux download for minecraft.jar
#1447 [17:40] <clarjon1> ydeco: because it doesn't disable everything.
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#1449 [17:40] <tehguy> linux? why linux?
#1450 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Download that, and put it in a folder by itself on your desktop
#1451 [17:40] <clarjon1> ydeco: the program will still stay in memory, scanning, even if it's 'disabled'
#1452 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Just trust me on this.
#1453 [17:40] <ydeco> what a good free program you'd reccomend for that then?
#1454 [17:41] <tehguy> ok
#1455 [17:41] <lutzee> I'd recommend Avast
#1456 [17:41] <clarjon1> ydeco: I'm using Avast! and it's quite good
#1457 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> If you're on windows, Microsoft security essentials
#1458 [17:41] <tehguy> i've downloaded the linux version
#1459 [17:41] <tehguy> what now?
#1460 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> tehguy - Did you put it on a folder on your desktop?
#1461 [17:42] <ydeco> thanks , ill go and try that then
#1462 [17:42] <tehguy> not in a folder, il do that now
#1463 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> In that same folder, please right click in it, and choose new -> new text document. Doesn't matter what you name it right now, open it up. It should open in notepad.
#1464 [17:43] <tehguy> done, its in a blank folder
#1465 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> In that notepad document, put in:
#1466 [17:43] <tehguy> i'll done notepad now
#1467 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#1468 [17:44] <tehguy> ok
#1469 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> pause (on a second line, by itself)
#1470 [17:44] <tehguy> so.. new line?
#1471 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1472 [17:44] <tehguy> ok
#1473 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Then go up to file -> save as. Make sure you're in the same folder where you just saved minecraft.jar, as well as made the new document
#1474 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Name the file "Run.bat" with quotes
#1475 [17:44] <tehguy> with quotes?
#1476 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1477 [17:44] <tehguy> ok
#1478 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Close the document, go to the folder, and double click on the Run command you just made
#1479 [17:45] <tehguy> yeah
#1480 [17:45] <tehguy> command prompt opened
#1481 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> Did minecraft launch?
#1482 [17:46] <tehguy> yes =D =D =D
#1483 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Great. This is just a workaround, and minecraft is not likely going to be running well with this.
#1484 [17:46] <tehguy> trying it now
#1485 [17:46] <tehguy> just so long as it runs
#1486 [17:46] <tehguy> thank you!!!
#1487 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> I would also recommend turning down all the detail levels
#1488 [17:47] <tehguy> do that anyways
#1489 [17:47] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1489 [17:47] <tehguy> =D
#1490 [17:47] <tips48> dammit GreyBot
#1491 [17:47] <tips48> GreyVulpine*
#1492 [17:47] <tips48> y u say tip? xD
#1493 [17:47] <GreyVulpine> What? I see this quite often with older computers, and netbooks
#1494 [17:47] <tips48> no, I got tagged
#1495 [17:47] <tips48> lol
#1496 [17:48] * GreyVulpine snrks
#1496 [17:48] <tips48> snirks*
#1497 [17:48] <tips48> xD
#1498 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy, you're going to be highlighted frequently then...
#1499 [17:48] * GreyVulpine regularly tips his hat here.
#1499 [17:48] * Boreeas tips waiters
#1499 [17:48] <tips48> damn you guys
#1500 [17:49] <tehguy> will i still be able to use magic launcher
#1501 [17:49] <CrusaderDeleters> tip
#1502 [17:49] * GreyVulpine tips Boreeas a 20.
#1502 [17:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Tip: this is a tip.
#1503 [17:49] <Boreeas> Thank you, come again!
#1504 [17:49] <tips48> Tip doesn't ping me ;)
#1505 [17:49] <tehguy> greyvulpine, will i?
#1506 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> tehguy - If I remember correctly, doesn't magic launcher let you set a memory allocation argument?
#1507 [17:49] <Boreeas> I like giving people tips
#1508 [17:49] <NinjaKirby> I updated the tips48 list btw Nekro, to help with your map.
#1509 [17:49] * tips48 sobs
#1509 [17:49] <tehguy> don't know
#1510 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> That's something you'll need to play around with for magic launcher, I honestly don't know\
#1511 [17:49] <NinjaKirby> Fukken' lawl
#1512 [17:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Tips: Tips are nice tips.
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#1514 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> I haven't touched it, sorry
#1515 [17:49] * tips48 ragequits
#1515 [17:49] <CrusaderDeleters> lol
#1516 [17:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Grey
#1517 [17:50] <tehguy> oh ok... nvm thanks anyway!!!!
#1518 [17:50] * GreyVulpine tips hat again
#1518 [17:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I sent blood to get help from you, and get some TIPS that can help her with a problem.
#1519 [17:50] * tips48 rages
#1519 [17:50] <CrusaderDeleters> she really needs these TIPS
#1520 [17:50] <Blood_Mind> i pmed u grey
#1521 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Oi.
#1522 [17:50] <tips48> GreyVulpine, OP me!
#1523 [17:50] <NinjaKirby> I feel like a cuppa PG Tips, anyone else?
#1524 [17:51] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/36603-nonexistent-java-runtime-environment/page__st__20
#1525 [17:51] <Boreeas> Now, let's stop saying tips all the time
#1526 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> This again?
#1527 [17:51] <CrusaderDeleters> That's what, grey
#1528 [17:51] * CrusaderDeleters nods.
#1528 [17:51] <CrusaderDeleters> This time, blood is actually online. XD
#1529 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Which post am I looking for?
#1530 [17:52] <CrusaderDeleters> The first, that's her problem.
#1531 [17:52] <CrusaderDeleters> Did you ever help this guy to completion though? :o
#1532 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> It's been two years...
#1533 [17:52] <Blood_Mind> woooow, im dead
#1534 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> So. Uninstall java. Use uh..
#1535 [17:53] <CrusaderDeleters> The thing is
#1536 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> What's that program we used to recommend around here..
#1537 [17:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Installation attempts to call uninstallation
#1538 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> launch4j error, or 1723 error?
#1539 [17:54] <CrusaderDeleters> uninstallation causes windows error, program not installed.
#1540 [17:54] <CrusaderDeleters> Year
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#1542 [17:54] <ydeco> thanks guys, that worked for me!
#1543 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Good to hear.
#1544 [17:54] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#1544 [17:54] * tips48 rages
#1544 [17:54] * CrusaderDeleters tips just to tips.
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#1545 [17:54] * GreyVulpine snickers
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#1546 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> "Year"?
#1547 [17:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Yar, Yeah*
#1548 [17:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Kinda mistype. XD
#1549 [17:56] <Blood_Mind> so...can ya help me?
#1550 [17:57] <CrusaderDeleters> GreyVulpine: Blood_Mind asked a question. XD
#1551 [17:57] <Blood_Mind> no, it was to you
#1552 [17:57] <Blood_Mind> grey
#1553 [17:57] * CrusaderDeleters tips.
#1553 [17:57] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: CrusaderDeleters informed you that Blood_Mind asked a question
#1554 [17:58] * tips48 CrusaderDeleters
#1554 [17:58] * CrusaderDeleters Tips
#1554 [17:58] * tips48 leaves
#1554 [17:58] <NinjaKirby> GreyVulpine: I think Boreeas requires your attention to pass on certain information pertaining to current events
#1555 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> Trying to find the danged fix again
#1556 [17:59] <Blood_Mind> huh?
#1557 [17:59] <Boreeas> This reminds me of one of my early bot fails. The bot mentioned all nicks in a room when it joined.
#1558 [17:59] <Blood_Mind> lol
#1559 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Did you have Blood_Mind use: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
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#1561 [18:03] <Blood_Mind> looks familiar, i think he did use it
#1562 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Could you try it once more, just for posterity's sake..
#1563 [18:05] <Blood_Mind> k, on Java?
#1564 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm?
#1565 [18:05] * GreyVulpine is kinda crashing from a caffeine high, after being awake for more than 30 hours straight.
#1565 [18:06] <Blood_Mind> lol
#1566 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Grab offline download for java 6, after uninstalling java completely.
#1567 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#1568 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Also, try using: javara
#1569 [18:07] * tips48 tips his hat
#1569 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1570 [18:07] * GreyVulpine tips tips48
#1570 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> We have a FAQ for JavaRA, somewhere, on some bot
#1571 [18:13] <Blood_Mind> wait, do i need to uninstall Java? it was just reinstalled yesterday
#1572 [18:13] <Blood_Mind> oh wait!
#1573 [18:13] <Blood_Mind> nvm
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#1575 [18:30] <Blood_Mind> sorry, i had to go do something, but im back
#1576 [18:32] * o_be_one is back (gone 06:33:10)
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#1577 [18:33] <Blood_Mind> hey, i heard that Java 7 doesn't work well with minecraft after a while, should i install Java 6 update 33 instead?
#1578 [18:34] <Blood_Mind> anyone here?
#1579 [18:35] <lutzee> yes install java 6
#1580 [18:35] <Blood_Mind> ok
#1581 [18:43] <Morrolan> ?? win/javara
#1582 [18:43] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1583 [18:43] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1584 [18:43] * Morrolan pokes tips48 and GreyVulpine
#1584 [18:43] * Morrolan wanders off again
#1584 [18:43] * tips48 facepalms
#1584 [18:47] <NinjaKirby> I'm sure it's a running joke that will lose momentum :P
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#1588 [18:53] <Littleminers> Hello?
#1589 [18:53] <Littleminers> I need help starting my server
#1590 [18:54] <Littleminers> ...
#1591 [18:54] <Littleminers> Okay here'smy question
#1592 [18:54] <Littleminers> My mine craft server (wolf) says that its active but it has a red square logo next to it, I can't get my server to run.
#1593 [18:55] <Boreeas> What hoster do you use?
#1594 [18:55] <Boreeas> This is probably something you will have to solve with them
#1595 [18:55] <Littleminers> BeastNode
#1596 [18:55] <Littleminers> This is their chat rooms
#1597 [18:56] <Boreeas> Wow, they are expensive
#1598 [18:56] <Littleminers> Really?
#1599 [18:56] <Littleminers> This is my first Hosted-Server
#1600 [18:56] <Boreeas> Anyways, this is not the correct chat room. Try #beastnode maybe
#1601 [18:56] <Littleminers> Hmmm
#1602 [18:56] <Littleminers> They said to come here
#1603 [18:57] <Boreeas> Hm
#1604 [18:57] <Littleminers> Okay thanks
#1605 [18:57] <Littleminers> Okay thanks
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#1607 [18:57] <Boreeas> Can you take a screenshot?
#1608 [18:59] <Blood_Mind> uh, can someone help me out? i tried doin some of the things grey said, then got off track o~o
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#1610 [19:02] <rev-lemon> Blood_Mind whats up i havent been reading whats happend ?
#1611 [19:03] <Blood_Mind> i need help, im supposed to be using fix it but it's not really helping me
#1612 [19:03] <Blood_Mind> from microsoft i mean
#1613 [19:03] <rev-lemon> is that fix a jar file ?
#1614 [19:03] <rev-lemon> oh
#1615 [19:03] <Blood_Mind> ait says Java isnt installed on my PC, but it is
#1616 [19:04] <Blood_Mind> let me just send you the website with my problem
#1617 [19:04] <rev-lemon> k
#1618 [19:04] <Blood_Mind> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/36603-nonexistent-java-runtime-environment/page__st__20
#1619 [19:05] <rev-lemon> ok so the installer isnt installing ?
#1620 [19:05] <Blood_Mind> it is, b ut it's not saying it is
#1621 [19:06] <Blood_Mind> it's been uninstalled and reinstalled many times
#1622 [19:06] <rev-lemon> what about the 32 bit version of java have you tryed that at all ?
#1623 [19:06] <Blood_Mind> i have a 64 bit pc
#1624 [19:06] <Blood_Mind> and that didnt work
#1625 [19:07] <rev-lemon> i understand its a 64bit machine but what happens if you try to run the 32bit ?
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#1627 [19:08] <Blood_Mind> same result, i tried it before cause i thought my machine was 32bit at first
#1628 [19:09] <rev-lemon> ok have you tryed the full version download of java ? you can install it via the net and you can download the whole package and then install it ?
#1629 [19:10] <Blood_Mind> the developer's kit?
#1630 [19:11] <rev-lemon> hm, what ever version you can get your hands on,
#1631 [19:13] <Blood_Mind> sorry, i was doing something, im back
#1632 [19:13] <Blood_Mind> i have been using JRE as always
#1633 [19:13] <Blood_Mind> with no prob
#1634 [19:14] <Blood_Mind> but now its messing up, and i heard that my version of Java (7) doesnt work with minecraft classic too well after a while
#1635 [19:14] <rev-lemon> well ok so if you been useing that and it said it was installed did mc work ?
#1636 [19:14] <Blood_Mind> yup, but i got the black screen of death all of a sudden a few days ago
#1637 [19:14] <rev-lemon> bah, get minecraftdemo < and if you like it use it, i know the classic is free but its verry old and yes you will have trouble running it
#1638 [19:15] <Blood_Mind> and some think java is the problem
#1639 [19:15] <rev-lemon> most of the time black screens usually leed to a prob with java
#1640 [19:15] <Blood_Mind> my mom doesnt like it when i download stuff on her p
#1641 [19:15] <Blood_Mind> pc
#1642 [19:15] <rev-lemon> well you just have to tell her that you want to try out this game really badly and you can show her plenty of videos
#1643 [19:16] <Blood_Mind> yeah, been there, done that
#1644 [19:16] <rev-lemon> and howd you go, did you get told not to ? , i would say the only thing you can do is wait till you have your own computer to play the game on
#1645 [19:17] <rev-lemon> or play it via the web
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#1647 [19:17] <MXR4FREE> Hi...
#1648 [19:17] <rev-lemon> yes MXR4FREE ?
#1649 [19:17] <MXR4FREE> why i can't make a Tripwire Hook?
#1650 [19:17] <rev-lemon> MXR4FREE are you running with the latest pre release
#1651 [19:18] <Blood_Mind> man, that will be a long while from now, and what if i get the same problem again?
#1652 [19:18] <MXR4FREE> 1.2.5
#1653 [19:18] <MXR4FREE> I
#1654 [19:18] <rev-lemon> then we can deal with it then but classic will prob not work , how ever mc will
#1655 [19:18] <rev-lemon> mxr that is why you cant have trip wires becauses its not in that version
#1656 [19:19] <MXR4FREE> ahh. thanks =)
#1657 [19:19] <Blood_Mind> is the game a computer hog? it's not too big of a file right?
#1658 [19:20] <Blood_Mind> just for future reference
#1659 [19:20] <rev-lemon> no its not too big, depends if you put like texture packs on and whatnot, when you been working on a world for a long period it can be pritty big but thats not a download thats a file size
#1660 [19:20] <rev-lemon> but the game is about 30 meg or there abouts maybe less if your lucky
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#1662 [19:20] <Blood_Mind> oh, thatss awesome
#1663 [19:20] <Blood_Mind> but im not into texture packs or mods
#1664 [19:21] <MXR4FREE> bye, thanks again :)
#1665 [19:21] <Blood_Mind> see ya, ill guess ill go now, maybe come back later
#1666 [19:22] <rev-lemon> well we cant help you unless your runing minecraft and not classic
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#1668 [19:22] <Kezo> I've recently tried to increase the Memory alloted to my minecraft client which lead to corrupting java on my computer, i am now stuck with minecraft unable to load and java TM 7 update5 being unable to uninstall from add/remove
#1669 [19:22] <benviper10> I need to backup my server help
#1670 [19:22] <benviper10> How do you backup your map
#1671 [19:22] <rev-lemon> kezo goto java.com and see if you can find a solution there
#1672 [19:23] <Kezo> I've tried for many hours and i can't update java being it wont ever uninstall
#1673 [19:23] <rev-lemon> benviper10 not entirely sure since they migrated the map with the game
#1674 [19:23] <benviper10> What do you mean so it isnt possible?
#1675 [19:23] <Kezo> i've tried using ccleaner but since is an msi installation i have to go throught windows add/remove
#1676 [19:24] <rev-lemon> benviper10 i never said it isnt possible
#1677 [19:24] <benviper10> Dose anyone else know how to please
#1678 [19:24] <Kezo> Is it your own personal world?
#1679 [19:24] <rev-lemon> benviper10 it either should be called world or the world name you named it just back those files up
#1680 [19:24] <Kezo> ^
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#1682 [19:25] <benviper10> no like i made the server and im using the world i started with
#1683 [19:25] <rev-lemon> ok so the server world the world your useing on that would be where the server file is, under the folder world
#1684 [19:25] <Kezo> rev-lemon is that all the solutions you can provide? There isnt a solution on java.net which i could find
#1685 [19:25] <rev-lemon> back that up and you can do as you wish with it
#1686 [19:26] <rev-lemon> kezo other from that from java.com you can goto program files / java > delete the folder completely and see if you can redownload it via java.com
#1687 [19:26] * o_be_one is away: auto-away
#1687 [19:26] * o_be_one is away: auto-away
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#1688 [19:27] <Kezo> I've already done this and when i try to start minecraft this error occurs ""No NJM could be found on your system. Please define EXE4J_JAVA_HOME to point to an installed 32-bit JDK or JRE installed from www.java.com""
#1689 [19:28] <rev-lemon> hm, wired
#1690 [19:28] <rev-lemon> kezo see if you can find that error on the net, btw while installing java does it error out ?
#1691 [19:30] <Kezo> No, the java 7 update 5 (most recent i believe for the 32 bit) is stuck within my add/remove and isnt logged within my registry ( i checked regedit) and i've followed up on many other the errors and tried to set a path for java in enviormental variables
#1692 [19:31] <rev-lemon> kezo java should isntall to a defult directory / c:\program files < now see if you can find java in that
#1693 [19:31] <Kezo> although it doesn error out when i try to uninstall, the uninstaller launches collects data and just disappears (not sure if it crashed) and persists within the add/remove
#1694 [19:32] <Kezo> I've deleted all java folders within programfiles and programfiles(x86) [running windows vista]
#1695 [19:32] <rev-lemon> kezo see if you can download the full packet of java and then install it via that way
#1696 [19:33] <rev-lemon> ok now java.com < and try it once more
#1697 [19:33] <Kezo> i cant install it, because the java7 update 5 is still stuck within my add/remove
#1698 [19:33] <Kezo> even though all files and deleted
#1699 [19:34] <Kezo> You may try teamviewer in my computer if that would help
#1700 [19:34] <rev-lemon> kezo, have you tryed gettting all the packets or just trying to install via the net
#1701 [19:34] <rev-lemon> no thats going to be no help
#1702 [19:35] <Kezo> just tried install via net because isn't only jre required to run minecraft?
#1703 [19:36] <lutzee> ??> Kezo win/javara
#1704 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Kezo: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1705 [19:36] <rev-lemon> opengl 1.2 i belive is needed to run it but java is most of what you need to run it
#1706 [19:36] <VoxelHead> Kezo: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1707 [19:36] <Kezo> i've used javara already
#1708 [19:37] <lutzee> hmm then try installing java7 to get the files then run uninstall again
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#1710 [19:37] <Kezo> lutzee, having already done that and tried to uninstall left Java TM 7 update 5 stuck within windows add/remove
#1711 [19:38] <Kezo> unable to be uninstalled
#1712 [19:38] <lutzee> probably a registry problem then...
#1713 [19:39] <Kezo> Besides i dont have ANY of those files i deleted them all, and cant find the program within the registry
#1714 [19:39] <Kezo> CCleaner is able to rename the program but not able to uninstall it either because it is a msi installation
#1715 [19:40] <lutzee> deleting program files is probably one of the worst things you can do in windows..
#1716 [19:40] <Kezo> o_o
#1717 [19:41] <lutzee> Theres an uninstall opton for a reason :p
#1718 [19:41] <Kezo> It wasn't working T~T
#1719 [19:43] <Kezo> Question if i were to delete all uninstallation registrys for add/remove (theoretically clearing add/remove list) could i then reinstall java?
#1720 [19:43] <rev-lemon> no
#1721 [19:46] <lutzee> er actually that might work, if java believes it's not there then yes, try it kezo if you feel safe editing the registry
#1722 [19:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Wrong.
#1723 [19:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Wrong Wrong Wrong.
#1724 [19:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Java was "uninstalled" on a friends computer.
#1725 [19:47] <CrusaderDeleters> I tried to reinstall the same version, but java said it was installed, microsuck said it wasn't.
#1726 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> There is a program though called JavaRA that can help you to remove java. http://majorgeeks.com/JavaRA_d5982.html
#1727 [19:48] <CrusaderDeleters> JavaRA does the same exact thing.
#1728 [19:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Uses MS install.
#1729 [19:49] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: there is a tool called wug that can fix it
#1730 [19:49] <CrusaderDeleters> You will have to look up all registries/files/location of files and delete them all by hand, and hope to god that you did not delete the wrong one, and then fresh install.
#1731 [19:49] <Wug> first you need the wug client
#1732 [19:49] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#1733 [19:49] <Wug> its called teamviewer
#1734 [19:49] <clarjon1> hah
#1735 [19:49] <CrusaderDeleters> I know what teamviewer is.
#1736 [19:49] <clarjon1> i like RevoUninstaller
#1737 [19:50] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: do you have it yet
#1738 [19:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Already used it on blood_mind twice.
#1739 [19:50] <Wug> does your friend with the borked java have it
#1740 [19:50] <Wug> also
#1741 [19:50] <Wug> tell him to lay off of the registry
#1742 [19:51] <Wug> because theres about an 80% chance that its borked because he was playing with it
#1743 [19:51] <DiskDaemon> Err, step one of JavaRA is to run the uninstaller. Further steps taske more drastic action.
#1744 [19:51] <CrusaderDeleters> No, we did not touch the registries until it was borked.
#1745 [19:51] <Wug> its easy to say that
#1746 [19:51] <Wug> this is however purely a registry problem
#1747 [19:52] <Wug> and the registry does not simply bork itself
#1748 [19:52] <CrusaderDeleters> One does not simply bork the registry.
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#1750 [19:52] <superkabii> actually, it's rather easy...
#1751 [19:52] <CrusaderDeleters> actually, yeah, you can. ._.
#1752 [19:52] <CrusaderDeleters> I know
#1753 [19:52] <CrusaderDeleters> just click on one of the five main tabs,
#1754 [19:53] * CrusaderDeleters presses delete. Woops.
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#1755 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> It's better to use a tool such as JavaRa to remove the registry entries, than to allow human error to slip up and miss something in the registry.
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#1757 [19:58] <Wug> DiskDaemon: no, its better to let wug do it
#1758 [19:59] <Wug> because javara doesnt really know how
#1759 [19:59] <JordanIzKewl> I just bought minecraft and i started playing and 5 minutes into the game it says ive run out of memory and it wont let me keep playing, what do i do?
#1760 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> When we have a Wug available, that can be a better tool to use
#1761 [19:59] <Wug> JordanIzKewl: do you have 64 bit java
#1762 [19:59] <JordanIzKewl> i dont know
#1763 [19:59] <Wug> never mind
#1764 [19:59] <Wug> that was a dumb question
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#1766 [20:00] <Wug> I know you dont have 64 bit java
#1767 [20:00] <Wug> do you have a 64 bit computer was the right question
#1768 [20:00] <Wug> appears you do
#1769 [20:00] <JordanIzKewl> idk its pretty new its a toshiba touchscreen
#1770 [20:00] <Wug> hang on a sec
#1771 [20:02] <Wug> JordanIzKewl: open the control panel and uninstall any versions of java you can find
#1772 [20:02] <Wug> together.
#1773 [20:02] <Wug> they should all be grouped together. *
#1774 [20:02] <Wug> I dont know where the rest of my sentence went
#1775 [20:04] <JordanIzKewl> ok i uninstALLED IT
#1776 [20:05] <Wug> ok, grab and install this one: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1637588.html
#1777 [20:06] <JordanIzKewl> which one should i download?
#1778 [20:08] <Wug> the one for windows x64
#1779 [20:08] <JordanIzKewl> ok
#1780 [20:08] <JordanIzKewl> its installing now
#1781 [20:08] <JordanIzKewl> Done
#1782 [20:09] <Wug> minecraft should not have issues with memory anymore
#1783 [20:09] <JordanIzKewl> ok ill try it out, thanks
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#1785 [20:17] <chubsii> hi
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#1788 [20:21] <dp200> Just purchased minecraft. This message comes up: Fatal error occured (4): Permission denied: connect
#1789 [20:22] <clarjon1> dp200: do you use AVG antivirus
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#1791 [20:22] <clarjon1> dp200: do you use AVG antivirus
#1792 [20:22] <dp200> norton antivirus
#1793 [20:22] <clarjon1> ewwwww
#1794 [20:22] <clarjon1> that's worse.
#1795 [20:22] <clarjon1> Norton is blocking you access to the game, bud.
#1796 [20:23] <clarjon1> disable norton, and click on "options" in the launcher, click force update, then login.
#1797 [20:23] <dp200> ok let me try
#1798 [20:24] <nimrod> hai clarjon1
#1799 [20:24] <nimrod> ;o
#1800 [20:24] <clarjon1> sup nimrod
#1801 [20:24] <nimrod> n/m
#1802 [20:24] <nimrod> bored at work
#1803 [20:24] <nimrod> lol
#1804 [20:24] <chubsii> hey
#1805 [20:24] <chubsii> i just wanna ask
#1806 [20:25] <chubsii> if i purchase a premuim acc
#1807 [20:25] <chubsii> is there a payment to make a server?
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#1809 [20:26] <lutzee> that payment is to buy an account to play the game, it will also give access to servers
#1810 [20:26] <lutzee> you cannot play on a server without an account unless the server is set to offline mode
#1811 [20:26] <dp200_> Turn off antivirus didn't work
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#1813 [20:28] <dp200_> Turning off antivirus did't work
#1814 [20:30] <chubsii> tysm
#1815 [20:30] <chubsii> ^_^
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#1817 [20:30] <lutzee> yes well norton is horrible, get a better antivirus.
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#1819 [20:31] <Vgr> who owns VoxelHead?
#1820 [20:31] <dp200> fatal error occured (4): Permission denied: connect
#1821 [20:32] <dp200> What does this mean?
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#1823 [20:32] <kushhh> herro
#1824 [20:32] <lutzee> hey
#1825 [20:32] <kushhh> how can i make minecraft not lag ?
#1826 [20:32] <lutzee> kushhh, what are your PC specs?
#1827 [20:33] <lutzee> dp200, it means something is blocking you from connected, like i said, norton's firewall, remove norton, install avast
#1828 [20:33] <kushhh> uuh
#1829 [20:33] <kushhh> idk
#1830 [20:34] <lutzee> ??> kushhh win/dxdiag
#1831 [20:34] <VoxelHead> kushhh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1832 [20:34] <VoxelHead> kushhh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1833 [20:35] <Vgr> who owns VoxelHead?
#1834 [20:37] <kushhh> http://pastebin.com/hxP5XUtf
#1835 [20:38] <kushhh> http://pastebin.com/hxP5XUtf
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#1837 [20:38] <kushhh> is it any good?
#1838 [20:39] <lutzee> Not really 1gb of ram is not enough for minecraft, and also a 64bit PC is also advised
#1839 [20:39] <lutzee> Is it a netbook?
#1840 [20:40] <kushhh> no
#1841 [20:40] <kushhh> pc
#1842 [20:40] <lutzee> Okay either way, you need a better PC
#1843 [20:41] <kushhh> lolll
#1844 [20:41] <kushhh> how much is my pc worth?
#1845 [20:41] <Vgr> less than the one you'd need to buy
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#1847 [20:43] <kushhh> well fuck that
#1848 [20:43] * AuBot kicked kushhh from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ushhh :Please keep it civil.)
#1849 [20:43] <NinjaKirby> lol
#1850 [20:44] <Vgr> again, who owns VoxelHead?
#1851 [20:44] <lutzee> Kealper, i believe....
#1852 [20:44] <lutzee> why?
#1853 [20:45] <Vgr> it's trying to join a channel which he cannot join and it forwards to another channel. he keeps rejoining
#1854 [20:45] <Vgr> this other channel being #gtfo
#1855 [20:45] <lutzee> just ban it then...
#1856 [20:46] <Vgr> I'm not the kind of person to go the easiest way everytime; that wouldn't solve the issue, and the owner may not even notice
#1857 [20:47] <lutzee> why is VoxelHead even trying to join any other channel anyway? it's the support bot for here
#1858 [20:47] <Vgr> yep and it's still trying to join another channel
#1859 [20:47] <Vgr> if only I knew which one
#1860 [20:48] <NinjaKirby> Remnants of data in Voxel's libraries have managed to piece together to form a kind of Conciousness. Is there a Will Smith in #gtfo?
#1861 [20:49] <Vgr> nope, there is a Nagisa
#1862 [20:50] <NinjaKirby> Who dafaq
#1863 [20:50] <Vgr> eggdrop bot, it was a joke
#1864 [20:51] * NinjaKirby grins, then rips a Tree out of the ground nearby, lobs it into the Sky and jumps onto it, landing securely on the flying Tree Trunk and soars away
#1864 [20:54] <Vgr> hah, Kealper might have noticed
#1865 [20:54] <Vgr> or something
#1866 [20:54] * NinjaKirby crashes outside his house, replants the Tree (For Forest conservation purposes) which was previously used as a transportation vessel, and proceeds to hit the Sack for it's late
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#1867 [20:55] <Vgr> usually it's VoxelHead (~VoxelHead@ip68-104-171-151.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #gtfo ChanServ sets ban on *!*@* DerpServ has kicked VoxelHead from #gtfo (Banned: GTFO (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻) Nagisa removes ban on *!*@*
#1868 [20:55] <Smileynator> Evening people
#1869 [20:55] <Vgr> evening
#1870 [20:55] <Eddie> Afternoon
#1871 [20:55] <Eddie> lunch, brownie
#1872 [20:55] <Eddie> soup, bottle, chapel
#1873 [20:55] <Smileynator> dat table flip ban
#1874 [20:56] <Smileynator> seems like have come to the right place *keeps an eye on Eddie just to be sure*
#1875 [20:56] <zen> Smileynator, ask your question :p
#1876 [20:56] <Smileynator> I have a little trouble with me minecarft D:
#1877 [20:56] <Vgr> minecarft
#1878 [20:56] <Smileynator> ok, scrap irish accent, i can't chat in irish
#1879 [20:56] <zen> and elaborate :p
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#1881 [20:57] <Smileynator> zen you troll :O make me come here from another channel :P
#1882 [20:57] <Smileynator> Well, i have formatted my laptop a few weeks ago, clean windows install etc. etc.
#1883 [20:57] <Smileynator> installed java 64bit
#1884 [20:57] <Jesusjr21> I bought minecraft and it said purchase complete and it wont activate what should i do
#1885 [20:57] <Smileynator> and ever since, Minecraft doesn't want to login to minecraft.net anymore
#1886 [20:58] <zen> Jesusjr21, check to see if the money has left your bank account
#1887 [20:58] <Smileynator> I tried uninstalling java, i tried to uninstall minecraft
#1888 [20:58] <zen> chances are that the payment was blocked on the basis of fraud due to an overseas payment
#1889 [20:58] <Jesusjr21> From my cedit card
#1890 [20:58] <clarjon1> Smileynator: ok
#1891 [20:58] <clarjon1> Smileynator: You have yet to say what the problem is.
#1892 [20:58] <zen> Smileynator, if you are using java7 uninstall it and install java6
#1893 [20:59] <clarjon1> zen: I'm using java7 with no problems :)
#1894 [20:59] <Jesusjr21> I tried it in an hour and nothing happend
#1895 [20:59] <Smileynator> zen: already did that, used some software recommended on the wiki that should have deeply removed all java related stuff
#1896 [20:59] <zen> clarjon1, specifically update 5 is the problem, because so am I but update 3 :p
#1897 [20:59] <Smileynator> and now have 6.33 64bit
#1898 [20:59] <Smileynator> ill double check my version
#1899 [20:59] <clarjon1> Smileynator: what -exactly- is the problem you're having tho
#1900 [21:00] <Jesusjr21> Dhehe
#1901 [21:00] <Smileynator> let me make a screenshot
#1902 [21:00] <zen> okay Smileynator do you have an ! in your windows username?
#1903 [21:00] <zen> Jesusjr21, i told you check to see if the payment has gone through. Even if minecraft.net says it was successful sometimes it isn't
#1904 [21:00] <Smileynator> http://puu.sh/CXCL << Tadaa
#1905 [21:00] <Smileynator> Zen: do i look like someone who would put strange characters in a windows username?
#1906 [21:01] <Smileynator> hint: no :P
#1907 [21:01] <zen> Smileynator, i can't judge from text, also it happens a lot anyway
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#1909 [21:01] <zen> what antivirus do you use?
#1910 [21:01] <Smileynator> java.. you son of a...
#1911 [21:01] <Smileynator> It does happen a lot, that stuff in a user name?
#1912 [21:01] <Eddie> Canadian.
#1913 [21:01] <Jesusjr21> I cant its not my account my dad let me use his credit card bexause im only 12
#1914 [21:02] <zen> Jesusjr21, then ask him to check it
#1915 [21:02] <Smileynator> java installed 7.whatever again
#1916 [21:02] <Jesusjr21> Kk
#1917 [21:02] <Smileynator> so what i need, is something that gets me a proper 6.X version to install :3
#1918 [21:02] <Smileynator> so what i need, is something that gets me a proper 6.X version to install :3
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#1920 [21:03] <Smileynator> anyone got a valid link?
#1921 [21:05] <zen> Smileynator, http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html#jre-6u32-oth-JPR
#1922 [21:05] <zen> was getting there...
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#1924 [21:05] <Smileynator> thanks
#1925 [21:06] <zen> anyway, going to watch a movie till the late hours... someone else can help now....
#1926 [21:06] <Jesusjr21> If the money goes through itl say MINECRAFT $30.00 Right?
#1927 [21:06] <Smileynator> do i need to ''specially'' uninstall java?
#1928 [21:07] <Smileynator> or is just ccleaner uninstall fine?
#1929 [21:07] <zen> Jesusjr21, it will appear as "moneybookers"
#1930 [21:07] <zen> or something along those lines
#1931 [21:07] <Jesusjr21> Kk thank you because
#1932 [21:07] <zen> Smileynator, use the add/remove programs feature..
#1933 [21:07] <Jesusjr21> I bought like at 5
#1934 [21:07] <Jesusjr21> And it still wont activate
#1935 [21:07] <Smileynator> because windows is pro?
#1936 [21:08] <zen> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status- Jesusjr21
#1937 [21:09] <Jesusjr21> How should i activate it
#1938 [21:09] <zen> Jesusjr21, can you get your father to type... might make more sense to him what i am saying
#1939 [21:10] <Jesusjr21> Sorry no
#1940 [21:11] <Jesusjr21> He is busy right now
#1941 [21:11] <zen> okay, >< well as an overseas payment, moneybookers (the company that deals with minecrafts payments) will often block an over seas payment, on the grounds of fraud,
#1942 [21:11] <Jesusjr21> It wont activate and i bought like at 5 and it still wont activate what should i do
#1943 [21:12] <zen> Jesusjr21, i am saying the payment was probably blocked, meaning that you haven't actually bought the game
#1944 [21:12] <zen> ask your dad to try paypal instead, better chance of it working
#1945 [21:12] <Smileynator> ok, java 6 is not doing it for me.. the fuck
#1946 [21:12] * AuBot kicked Smileynator from #minecrafthelp (Reason: mileynator :Please keep it civil.)
#1947 [21:15] <Jesusjr21> Im just gonna ask my dad to check his bank account tomorrow
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#1952 [21:18] <Wug> someone check smileynator for a !
#1953 [21:18] <Wug> I'm going to bed
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#1955 [21:26] <jesusjr22> i cant buy it again because i bought it and it wont activatee
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#1957 [21:26] <jesusjr22> what should i do
#1958 [21:26] <jesusjr22> if it didnt update
#1959 [21:26] <jesusjr22> i mean activate
#1960 [21:28] <jesusjr22> ?
#1961 [21:28] <jesusjr22> ?
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#1963 [21:30] <jesusjr22> what should i do if i bought the game and it wont activate and cant use the credit card for a day?
#1964 [21:33] <lut> jesusjr22, i've allready pointed you here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status- (lut = zen)
#1965 [21:34] <jesusjr22> thank you
#1966 [21:34] <jesusjr22> so it can take like 3 day
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#1968 [21:36] <Guest24519> Hi
#1969 [21:36] <Guest24519> I need help with Bpermissions but no one is answering me I need to know how to give someone like an admin EVERY AND ALL PERMISSIONS
#1970 [21:36] <Guest24519> I need help with Bpermissions but no one is answering me I need to know how to give someone like an admin EVERY AND ALL PERMISSIONS
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#1972 [21:37] <lut> -/-
#1973 [21:55] <jesusjr22> i never got my transition code
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#1975 [21:59] <jesusjr22> i never got my transition code
#1976 [22:07] <jesusjr22> never got my tranistion code!!!!!!!!\
#1977 [22:08] <Scott> You really don't have to say it more than once.
#1978 [22:08] <Scott> If someone wants to help, they'll see the first line.
#1979 [22:09] <lut> jesusjr22, we aren't official help, we are the community who volenteer to help how we can, submit a support request here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1980 [22:09] <lut> we can't troubleshoot account details here
#1981 [22:09] <jesusjr22> i ddid that
#1982 [22:09] <lut> Okay well wail for a reply then.
#1983 [22:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Tranistion code?
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#1990 [22:58] <Bart> I have created my own server, but every time I try to login, it says "Failed to verify username" How do iI fix this?
#1991 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Uh...
#1992 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> *shrug*
#1993 [23:00] <Bart> Well, that doesnt help
#1994 [23:01] <Bart> Aren't you supposed to know this stuff
#1995 [23:02] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't know everything, now do I? C:
#1996 [23:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Seems like it may be a java 7 problem though.
#1997 [23:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Try to uninstall 7 and install 6.
#1998 [23:03] <Bart> Would that really help, cause i dont feel like uninstalling and installing a bunch of stuff if i dont have too
#1999 [23:03] <CrusaderDeleters> It might.
#2000 [23:04] <Bart> Is that "might" closer to it "will" or it "wont"
#2001 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Closer to will.
#2002 [23:04] <Bart> Ok, i guess ill do it
#2003 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> I know that feel of not willing to attempt it. c:
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#2005 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Tips to Tips because Tips tips nice tips.
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#2007 [23:28] <Devin> CrusaderDeleters,
#2008 [23:28] <Devin> lmao I found your steam account
#2009 [23:28] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#2010 [23:28] <CrusaderDeleters> I care?
#2011 [23:29] <Devin> It's just random
#2012 [23:29] <Devin> I added you
#2013 [23:29] <Devin> :D
#2014 [23:30] <CrusaderDeleters> :D
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#2016 [23:52] <the2crosser> my minecraft file wont open
#2017 [23:53] <the2crosser> how do i launch minecraft? i try to and it never opens
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