#1 [00:00] <John_Unicycles> Thanks a bunch.
#2 [00:03] <DiskDaemon> John_Unicycles: Currently you have version 7.14 drives installed for your graphics card. You can get the version 10.2 drivers for your system from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/integrated_vista32.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.2.3.2&lang=English
#3 [00:04] <John_Unicycles> I tried to update it from the control panel and it said it was up to date.
#4 [00:04] <John_Unicycles> \I guess it was wrong
#5 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> That's alright. It seems to be a good idea to start from the evidence and work towards a solution from there
#6 [00:11] <John_Unicycles> Do you know anything about Call of Duty World at war for PC?
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#8 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> What is this "Call of Duty" ?
#9 [00:11] <John_Unicycles> CAuse I was thinking of getting that, but idk if this can run it.
#10 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> This page seem to say that your system is well below what's required for CoD:WaW http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=28&game=Call%20of%20Duty%205:%20World%20at%20War#systemRequirementsSubheadWrap
#11 [00:17] <John_Unicycles> Its working DiskDaemon :D
#12 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> Thanks. You're welcome
#13 [00:18] <John_Unicycles> Would you be nice enough to let me use an account?
#14 [00:18] <John_Unicycles> Thank YOU.
#15 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> An account?
#16 [00:18] <John_Unicycles> DOnt you need a premium account to play?
#17 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here works at or with Mojang. We are all community volunteers
#18 [00:19] <John_Unicycles> oh
#19 [00:19] <John_Unicycles> Well thanks for the help :D
#20 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> 's okay
#21 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> If you are playing a pirated version of Minecraft and you then buy it, the change you made to the hosts file for the pirated one will need to be removed.
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#23 [00:33] <cruzkid97> why cant i download minecraft\
#24 [00:33] <Devin> Could you elaborate more? :L
#25 [00:34] <cruzkid97> i try to download it and it doesnt give me the option to run
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#27 [00:34] <Devin> the .exe?
#28 [00:35] <cruzkid97> what
#29 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> From this page you download the Minecraft launcher as the file Minecraft.exe http://www.minecraft.net/download
#30 [00:37] <cruzkid97> yes i click on it and it just shows in the bottom left and i click on it and it does nothing
#31 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> Which web browser are you using?
#32 [00:38] <DiskDaemon> Firefox, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, Safari, Opera, Netscape Explorer, which?
#33 [00:38] <cruzkid97> google chrome
#34 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> Okay, press Win+R and type in n"%userprofile%\Downloads" without the quotes. That should take you to your downloads folder. Do you see the Minecraft file in there?
#35 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> Pardon, "%userprofile%\Downloads" without the quotes
#36 [00:41] <cruzkid97> ppress win=r?
#37 [00:41] <cruzkid97> win+r?
#38 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> The Windows key, that's located in between Ctrl and Alt
#39 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> The windows key that looks like this http://assets.lifehack.org/wp-content/files/2007/05/20070529-windowskey-f1.jpg?4c9b33
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#41 [00:42] <lv9cirno> Hello. >.>
#42 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> Hi there
#43 [00:42] <lv9cirno> Hm... I have a question
#44 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> ask away
#45 [00:43] <CrusaderDeleters> You do?
#46 [00:43] * DiskDaemon smacks CrusaderDeleters upside the back of the head
#46 [00:43] * CrusaderDeleters laughs because of the pain.
#46 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: Hi there o/
#47 [00:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Hurts less if you laugh.
#48 [00:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Ohai
#49 [00:43] <CrusaderDeleters> \o
#50 [00:44] <lv9cirno> I bought a minecraft account a long while ago, while it was still in the beta or alpha or something. When it had the "Buy now and you won't have to pay once the full game is released" thing was going on. I haven't played it in quite a long while. I tried to today but it's saying I need to buy the game to play it. Why's this? ._.
#51 [00:44] <DiskDaemon> What is your account name?
#52 [00:44] <lv9cirno> Hmm. Why? Seems kinda sketchy. No offense >.>
#53 [00:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Hack?
#54 [00:45] <CrusaderDeleters> We cannot.
#55 [00:45] <cruzkid97> ya its not there
#56 [00:45] <CrusaderDeleters> It's impossible to hack while you give us just your username.
#57 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> We cannot find out if your account is paid for or not, without knowing your account name
#58 [00:45] <lv9cirno> Heh. I'm a bit paranoid.
#59 [00:45] <CrusaderDeleters> or everyone online will eb at harm.
#60 [00:45] <lv9cirno> Suiseiseki18 is my username
#61 [00:45] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid suiseiseki18
#62 [00:45] <CrusaderDeleters> !paid Suiseiseki18
#63 [00:45] <lv9cirno> Hm, That's odd. I have.
#64 [00:46] <lv9cirno> I remember playing it a long while ago.
#65 [00:46] <lv9cirno> )':
#66 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> Was it a gift code that you originally used?
#67 [00:47] <CrusaderDeleters> lv, perhaps you forgot the actual username?
#68 [00:47] <lv9cirno> Hmm? No. I don't think so.
#69 [00:47] <lv9cirno> No gift code.
#70 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> lv9cirno: What does your minecraft.net profile page say about your status, when you log in to that?
#71 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> cruzkid97: Right-click on the minecraft.exe file from the ninecraft.net download page, and select "Save link as..."
#72 [00:48] <lv9cirno> About my status? Where would I find that? Sory..
#73 [00:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Lv, I successfully hacked into your username and then as able to delete everything minecraft on your computer. I even went ahead and destroyed all minecraft stuff on everyone else's computer.
#74 [00:48] <lv9cirno> >':
#75 [00:48] <lv9cirno> RIP
#76 [00:48] <CrusaderDeleters> You know I am joking, right? XD
#77 [00:49] <lv9cirno> Yes. You know I am too, right? :p
#78 [00:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Yar. c:
#79 [00:49] <lv9cirno> Oh. I've been trying to play on the browser version too
#80 [00:49] <lv9cirno> if that means anything
#81 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> lv9cirno: Mojang have some help for you at this page http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#82 [00:50] <lv9cirno> Huh, okay. I'll check that out
#83 [00:52] <lv9cirno> I don't think it's because it was refunded. Unless the refund process takes forever. I remember playing it a couple of weeks after I bought it.
#84 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> Please don't stop reading it after the first paragraph or two. Read through it all. I know that it's a lot of text, but that's because there is a lot of information there.
#85 [00:52] <lv9cirno> Mkay then
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#88 [00:57] <lv9cirno> Siiiigh
#89 [00:57] <Elystus> whats wrong? :)
#90 [00:58] <lv9cirno> Can't find any old emails from mojang for w/e reason. Only ones from a couple of days ago
#91 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> Go to the bank transaction details then.
#92 [00:59] <Elystus> Dammit disk lol, you ninja'd me
#93 [00:59] <lv9cirno> Bleeeeeeeh.
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#95 [00:59] <Elystus> lv9cirno: this may help
#96 [00:59] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#97 [01:00] <lv9cirno> I really don't remember how I payed for it... I mean, which account. I may have used someone else's bank account sdsadiasasfasfasfasfas
#98 [01:01] <DiskDaemon> lv9cirno: If you cannot confirm that you actually paid, Mojang cannot do anything from there. Without confirmation of payment you'll need to pay for a separate account.
#99 [01:02] <Elystus> Wait, lv9cirno did you migrate your account?
#100 [01:02] <|Kiichan|> lv9: searched for moneybookers or paypal?
#101 [01:02] <|Kiichan|> in the emails i mean
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#103 [01:02] <|Kiichan|> btw.. hi disk and elys
#104 [01:03] <DiskDaemon> |Kiichan|: o/
#105 [01:03] <Elystus> Hello :)
#106 [01:03] <lv9cirno> Sigh. Well thanks anyways, Guys
#107 [01:03] <Elystus> lv9cirno
#108 [01:04] <Elystus> dID YOU MIGRATE YOUR mOJANG ACCOUNT?
#109 [01:04] <DiskDaemon> lv9cirno: Track down that payment however you can. Without it you're down the stream without a paddle.
#110 [01:04] <Elystus> Caps sorry*
#111 [01:04] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Migrating his account wouldn't result in Mojang stating that his account is not premium.
#112 [01:05] <DiskDaemon> !paid Suiseiseki18
#113 [01:05] <lv9cirno> I'm pretty sure I cancelled the paypal account I used to pay for the account :/
#114 [01:05] <Elystus> Oh okay, I only came in with half a story.
#115 [01:05] <lv9cirno> Sigh
#116 [01:05] <lv9cirno> This sucks
#117 [01:05] <Elystus> Yea, you will have to scavange through your records to get it back.
#118 [01:05] <DiskDaemon> lv9cirno: At least you now know what options are available to you, which is better than how things were before you came in
#119 [01:06] <|Kiichan|> possibly look up the old bank records for the payment, contact MB or PP for the trans ID related..
#120 [01:06] <DiskDaemon> Life lesson - keep receipts
#121 [01:06] <lv9cirno> Too much of a hassle since the account isn't mine.
#122 [01:06] <lv9cirno> Thank you anyways, Guys.
#123 [01:07] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
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#127 [01:08] <Elystus> I just came home today :)
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#129 [01:09] <cruzkid97> what does it mean that i need a opengl?
#130 [01:10] <TKGP_DS> opengl is a standard graphics library
#131 [01:10] <cruzkid97> ok and how do i get it
#132 [01:10] <TKGP_DS> your computer should already have it
#133 [01:10] <|Kiichan|> cruz: update your graphics driver. and not thought windows update
#134 [01:10] <cruzkid97> how do i do that
#135 [01:10] <|Kiichan|> cruzkid97: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, AmigaOS, or OS-tan?
#136 [01:10] <cruzkid97> windows xp
#137 [01:11] <|Kiichan|> ??> win/dxdiag cruzkid97
#138 [01:11] <|Kiichan|> erm..
#139 [01:11] <|Kiichan|> ??> cruzkid97 win/dxdiag
#140 [01:11] <VoxelHead> cruzkid97: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#141 [01:11] <VoxelHead> cruzkid97: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#142 [01:11] * |Kiichan| had it backwards
#142 [01:12] <|Kiichan|> <.>
#143 [01:16] <cruzkid97> whats an IRC
#144 [01:18] <DiskDaemon> |Kiichan|: I'm heading down for dinner. For your reference, this is the previous dealings with cruzkid97 about half an hour ago - http://pastebin.com/7Q0m9EuD
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#146 [01:19] <cruzkid97_> what do i do i was to go too paste.com and then idk what to do
#147 [01:19] <|Kiichan|> cruzkid97: thsi is irc, paste link here
#148 [01:20] <cruzkid97_> http://pastebin.com/q8hwgBcY
#149 [01:21] <|Kiichan|> cruzkid97: one sec. checkign if dell has a driver first
#150 [01:21] <cruzkid97_> ok
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#152 [01:24] <Guest_> i updated drivers and it still dosent work HELP??
#153 [01:25] <cruzkid97_> how do i update a driver
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#155 [01:25] <|Kiichan|> cruzkid97: http://downloads.dell.com/video/R111513.EXE download and install that. it shodul give you the latest drivers for your card.
#156 [01:26] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: what video card did you have?
#157 [01:26] <cruzkid97_> thank u
#158 [01:27] <|Kiichan|> cruzkid97_: your video card IS on the list of intel's discontinues products though... so i cant garuntee it will work. my GF has a similar problem with her desktop
#159 [01:28] <Guest_> intell centrino
#160 [01:30] <Guest_> intel graphics media accelerator fo mobile 4 series express chipset
#161 [01:30] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: did you get the driver from intel.com or from your manufacturer's site?
#162 [01:30] <Guest_> intel
#163 [01:32] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: you shouldnt be having 'opengl not found' errors. what kidn of errro are you having?
#164 [01:33] <Guest_> [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)]
#165 [01:33] <Guest_> Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.nChoosePixelFormat(Native Method) at org.lwjgl.opengl.WindowsPeerInfo.choosePixelFormat(WindowsPeerIn
#166 [01:34] <|Kiichan|> ok thats java being derpy. have you modded the game at all?
#167 [01:35] <Guest_> nope...when i first dld it i was able to play 1 time then i started getting the error
#168 [01:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait
#169 [01:35] <|Kiichan|> hmm?
#170 [01:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Pixel format not accelerated.
#171 [01:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Upgrade yo drivahs, bro.
#172 [01:35] <|Kiichan|> cru: i think its because javas just derpign out there.
#173 [01:36] <|Kiichan|> the nullpointers the issue
#174 [01:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Did he upgrade his drivers already?
#175 [01:36] <Guest_> yes
#176 [01:36] <|Kiichan|> yup, from intel
#177 [01:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#178 [01:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Intel. :I
#179 [01:36] <Guest_> i updated the java too
#180 [01:37] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: im gonna have you delete and redownload the game files.
#181 [01:37] <|Kiichan|> ??> win/.minecraft
#182 [01:37] <|Kiichan|> ?? win/.minecraft
#183 [01:37] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#184 [01:37] <|Kiichan|> in the .minecraft folder, delete EVERYTHING except saves (unless you dot care abotu your worlds)
#185 [01:38] <|Kiichan|> CrusaderDeleters: you know if java7 is still on the derpy side for some people?
#186 [01:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Tell them to remove it for safe measures.
#187 [01:39] <|Kiichan|> thats next step :P
#188 [01:39] <Guest_> just del the whole folder? dont really need the sved world
#189 [01:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecraft would have a new release if they were to add compatability with 7.
#190 [01:39] <|Kiichan|> yes.
#191 [01:39] <|Kiichan|> cru: its just some people are great with j7.. other peopel get oddball off the wall errors
#192 [01:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Java 6 had a lot of bugs worked out of it.
#193 [01:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Java 7 is barely within any updates.
#194 [01:40] <Guest_> should i downld again or just reinstall?
#195 [01:41] <CrusaderDeleters> and minecraft was made in 6, Java 7 includes a whole new form of internet connection, Java Nio
#196 [01:41] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: once the .minecratf folder is empty, open minecraft and let it try downlaoding again
#197 [01:41] <|Kiichan|> cru: so THATS why it was always having connection issues?
#198 [01:41] <CrusaderDeleters> I believe so./
#199 [01:41] <CrusaderDeleters> I took a glance at NIO
#200 [01:41] <CrusaderDeleters> It's another form of IO, I suppose it's Internet connection
#201 [01:42] <|Kiichan|> NIO = Network Input/Output i asume
#202 [01:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Probably.
#203 [01:42] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll look into it now
#204 [01:43] <|Kiichan|> XD
#205 [01:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Confirmed.
#206 [01:45] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: hows it goin? :3
#207 [01:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Java Nio is for networking
#208 [01:45] <Guest_> it worked i ran it for a few closed it and now gonna try again...plz hold
#209 [01:46] <Guest_> dude im getting error again???
#210 [01:46] <|Kiichan|> ok so its atleast recreatable.
#211 [01:46] <|Kiichan|> next step before we get fancy!
#212 [01:47] <Guest_> k
#213 [01:47] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: im gonan have you uninstall java completely, then reinstall the latest java6. (im of the opinion right now it might just be java7 being derpy again)
#214 [01:47] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: know how to uninstall programs from the control panel?
#215 [01:48] <Guest_> y
#216 [01:48] <|Kiichan|> ok, uninstall ALL instances of java.
#217 [01:48] <Guest_> k
#218 [01:49] <Guest_> any certain order..i have 3 diff java
#219 [01:49] <|Kiichan|> no order. just remove them all. youll want a clean install of java afterwards
#220 [01:51] <|Kiichan|> :j
#221 [01:51] <WugBot> j: Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 32)
#222 [01:51] <Guest_> k now what
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#224 [01:51] <|Kiichan|> or this link http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#225 [01:52] * |Kiichan| goes to update the :j link :/
#225 [01:52] <Sourenhhh> dudes
#226 [01:52] <Sourenhhh> i need help
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#228 [01:52] <Sourenhhh> i have some problems with my java
#229 [01:52] <Guest_> brb
#230 [01:53] <Sourenhhh> Kiichan, i don't have java installed on my pc
#231 [01:53] <Ethan> yo guys my friends server was working up until his power in his house went out what should he do to get it working again so we can play? please help
#232 [01:53] <|Kiichan|> :j > Sourenhhh
#233 [01:53] <WugBot> Sourenhhh: (j) Current Recommended Java Version: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u32-downloads-1594646.html (Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 32)
#234 [01:53] <Sourenhhh> Thanks
#235 [01:53] <Ethan> yo guys my friends server was working up until his power in his house went out what should he do to get it working again so we can play? please help
#236 [01:53] <|Kiichan|> Ethan: he needs to start the server again.. if its giving errors then the world might have gone corrupt.
#237 [01:54] <Ethan> i believe he did restart the server
#238 [01:54] <Ethan> how would he solve a corruption problem
#239 [01:55] <CrusaderDeleters> World corruption?
#240 [01:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Only way is to get a new map.
#241 [01:55] <|Kiichan|> Ethan: either McEdit... or magic
#242 [01:55] <CrusaderDeleters> or just manually fix it yourself.
#243 [01:55] <|Kiichan|> ?? nullsave
#244 [01:55] <|Kiichan|> ?? corruptedworld
#245 [01:55] <|Kiichan|> :/
#246 [01:56] <|Kiichan|> ??<< index
#247 [01:56] <Sourenhhh> doesn't load?
#248 [01:56] <Sourenhhh> aha
#249 [01:56] <Sourenhhh> loaded
#250 [01:56] <Sourenhhh> kiichan
#251 [01:56] <Sourenhhh> which one shall i download?
#252 [01:56] <Guest_> kiichan dowlded shld i b good now?
#253 [01:57] <Ethan> what does mcedit do?
#254 [01:57] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: yes. once its installed try minecraft again.. see if it gives the error again
#255 [01:57] <|Kiichan|> ??< index
#256 [01:57] <Ethan> like whta is it?
#257 [01:57] <Sourenhhh> i'm still waitting
#258 [01:57] <Sourenhhh> =.
#259 [01:57] <|Kiichan|> ?? save/recovery
#260 [01:57] <VoxelHead> save/recovery: A tool to possibly recover corrupted worlds can be found at http://www.mcsaver.net
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#262 [01:57] <Guest_> its seems to be working now
#263 [01:58] <Ethan> so how does mcedit work and what does it do?
#264 [01:58] <Sourenhhh> help? =/
#265 [01:58] <|Kiichan|> mcedit is a map editor. it can susually open worlds minecraft cant anymore and fixes them in the process of resaving them
#266 [01:58] <Guest_> thanks a lot...i appreciate it...do u thinks the same steps wld work 4 a desktop
#267 [01:59] <|Kiichan|> Guest_: yup.
#268 [01:59] <Ethan> how can i get it?
#269 [01:59] <Ethan_> hi im Ethans friend who has the server
#270 [01:59] <|Kiichan|> Sourenhhh: is your computer 64bit or 32bit?
#271 [01:59] <Guest_> its a hp and i cannot get driver updates from the intel site?
#272 [01:59] <Sourenhhh> dno
#273 [01:59] <Sourenhhh> didn't notice
#274 [01:59] <Sourenhhh> how can i find that out?
#275 [01:59] <|Kiichan|> Sourenhhh: What operating system do you use? Windows (XP, Vista, 7), Mac OS X, Linux, OS/2 Warp, or BeOS?
#276 [01:59] <Sourenhhh> with run...?
#277 [02:00] <Sourenhhh> XP
#278 [02:00] <Ethan_> i tried using a different map and it still didnt work
#279 [02:00] <|Kiichan|> Sourenhhh: get the 32bit (x86) one
#280 [02:00] <Ethan> how does one get this McEdit persay
#281 [02:00] <Sourenhhh> ah thanks kiichan
#282 [02:00] <|Kiichan|> ?? mcedit
#283 [02:00] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#284 [02:01] <Ethan> Why do you hate me
#285 [02:01] <|Kiichan|> Ethan: huh?
#286 [02:01] <Ethan> What are some ways to manually edit your corrupt server
#287 [02:02] <Sourenhhh> Kiichan, i'm playing cracked minecraft, which one shall i download, karnel online or offline?
#288 [02:02] <|Kiichan|> Sourenhhh: we dont help with cracked minecraft :/
#289 [02:03] <Sourenhhh> ok :/
#290 [02:03] <|Kiichan|> if you have the ability to pirate the game.. then java shoudl be a snap
#291 [02:04] <Ethan> What are some ways to mannually edit your corrupt server
#292 [02:04] <|Kiichan|> Ethan: you'd need access to the world files on the server, then use mcedit with them (if the world itself is actualyl corrupt)
#293 [02:05] <Ethan_> i tried using a completekly new world and it still didnt work so the map being corrupt doesnt have anything to do with my server not working becuz im not using that map anymiore
#294 [02:06] <|Kiichan|> Ethan: then its either the server isnt up, or somethign else isnt configured right
#295 [02:06] <|Kiichan|> ex: port forwarding
#296 [02:07] <Ethan_> the server is up its just that people cant connect to it and my port is forwarded correct
#297 [02:07] <Ethan_> correctly*
#298 [02:09] <|Kiichan|> Ethan: and you can connect to it locally?
#299 [02:09] <Ethan_> yes
#300 [02:10] <|Kiichan|> then its either the ip theyre usign is wrong, port forwarding isnt set up correctly anymore (you did mention a blackout), or a firewall is up that wasnt before
#301 [02:10] <Ethan_> how would the blackout effect the port forwarding?
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#303 [02:11] <Ethan> how to correct port fowarding after blackout?
#304 [02:11] <|Kiichan|> ip assign to the server was randomly assigned from available dhcp range..
#305 [02:11] <Ethan_> you lost me big time
#306 [02:11] <Ethan> come again
#307 [02:12] <|Kiichan|> unless you either made the ip static on the server (or, like me, tell the router's dhcp to always give that server a specific ip)
#308 [02:12] <Ethan_> im sorry im lostr
#309 [02:12] <|Kiichan|> the router might have given the server a different local ip.
#310 [02:12] <Ethan_> lost*
#311 [02:12] <Ethan> how would one go about doing such a thing
#312 [02:13] <|Kiichan|> Ethan: you can check by confirmign the local ip of the server and the settings in your router's port forwarding
#313 [02:13] <|Kiichan|> match
#314 [02:14] <Ethan_> how do i check the local ip of the server?
#315 [02:14] <|Kiichan|> is the server running on the computer your on now, or another computer?
#316 [02:15] <Ethan_> its running on my other computer but i have it on this chat ill talk to you from it
#317 [02:15] <EthansServerComputer> this is the computer my server is runing on
#318 [02:15] <|Kiichan|> is it windows?
#319 [02:15] <EthansServerComputer> yes
#320 [02:16] <EthansServerComputer> its a desktop
#321 [02:16] <|Kiichan|> it shoudl say in networkign properties... or you can find it via console
#322 [02:17] <EthansServerComputer> how do i get to the newtowrk properties
#323 [02:17] <|Kiichan|> different for each version of windows... vista/7 shoudl have it right by the clock
#324 [02:18] <|Kiichan|> its easier via the command prompt. just type ipconfig
#325 [02:18] <|Kiichan|> :P
#326 [02:18] <|Kiichan|> you want the ipv4 address.
#327 [02:18] <EthansServerComputer> oh that thing i know how t do that
#328 [02:19] <|Kiichan|> then compare that to what your router is forwarding to and make sure they match
#329 [02:19] <EthansServerComputer> there is no ipv4?
#330 [02:19] <EthansServerComputer> theres ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway
#331 [02:20] <|Kiichan|> ip address then
#332 [02:20] <EthansServerComputer> okay
#333 [02:20] <|Kiichan|> usually is somethign along the liens of 192.168.0.0
#334 [02:20] <EthansServerComputer> 192.168.1.8
#335 [02:21] <|Kiichan|> yeah. compare that to the port forwardign setup in the router
#336 [02:22] <EthansServerComputer> okay i made the port forwarding internal ip that
#337 [02:23] <|Kiichan|> you usign the default minecraft port? (25565)
#338 [02:23] <EthansServerComputer> yes
#339 [02:23] <|Kiichan|> !check EthansServerComputer
#340 [02:23] <|Kiichan|> server runnign right now?
#341 [02:24] <EthansServerComputer> no...should i turn it on
#342 [02:24] <|Kiichan|> yeah, aubot can check to make sure it can connect
#343 [02:24] <EthansServerComputer> okay i turned it on
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#345 [02:24] <|Kiichan|> !check EthansServerComputer
#346 [02:25] <em2000> Hi
#347 [02:25] <|Kiichan|> :|
#348 [02:25] <|Kiichan|> ... waaait
#349 [02:25] <|Kiichan|> !check 68.32.39.182
#350 [02:25] <|Kiichan|> ok it works ethan :3
#351 [02:25] * |Kiichan| stabs aubot for nto resolving names!
#351 [02:25] <EthansServerComputer> really??
#352 [02:26] <|Kiichan|> Ethan: your golden :3
#353 [02:26] <|Kiichan|> *you're
#354 [02:26] <EthansServerComputer> THANK YOU SOOO MUCH
#355 [02:26] <Ethan> kiss me
#356 [02:26] <Ethan> i love you
#357 [02:26] <|Kiichan|> no probs :D have fun digging holes!
#358 [02:26] <EthansServerComputer> will do
#359 [02:26] * |Kiichan| goes to bed now :P
#359 [02:26] <Ethan> hahah your the man
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#364 [02:47] <tin> I
#365 [02:48] <tin> I login and then click "in browser" and it takes me to either a white box or a box that says "done loading" and then does nothing. This just started last night. Any suggestions
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#367 [02:49] <asdf> When playing minecraft classic whenever i click it will pause the game.
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#369 [03:08] <tin> I'm still here if anyone can help me with my question above.
#370 [03:09] <Wug> I bet java updated and broke itself
#371 [03:09] <tin> what does that mean
#372 [03:09] <Wug> is there some reason you play in browser
#373 [03:10] <Wug> or would playing from the downloadable launcher work
#374 [03:10] <tin> it's actually my son and he says playing in download is really slow
#375 [03:11] <Wug> pull up the control panel and tell me which versions of java yopu have installed
#376 [03:11] <tin> I think java did update. What do you mean by "broke itself"
#377 [03:11] <Wug> updates dont always go smoothly
#378 [03:11] <tin> ok just a min.
#379 [03:11] <Necrodoom> tin: in the launcher client, how much FPS you getting?
#380 [03:12] <Wug> theoretically it would not happen
#381 [03:12] <Wug> however, theoretically there is no difference between in theory and in practice, and in practice there is
#382 [03:12] <tin> Java 7 update 5 and Java FX 2.1.1
#383 [03:13] <Wug> does it say 64 bit
#384 [03:13] <TKGP_DS> I hope you don't mind if I quote that in the future wug
#385 [03:13] <Wug> TKGP_DS: I shamelessly ripped it from somewhere so go ahwad
#386 [03:13] <Wug> I bet you could find its origin by googling it
#387 [03:13] <TKGP_DS> myeees, perfect
#388 [03:14] <Wug> tin: does it say 64 bit
#389 [03:14] <tin> no
#390 [03:14] <Wug> ok. uninstall both of those
#391 [03:14] <tin> ok just a min.
#392 [03:15] <Wug> then visit here and download the version for 64 bit windows
#393 [03:15] <Wug> :j7
#394 [03:15] <WugBot> j7: You can try java 7 here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1637588.html (version 7u5)
#395 [03:15] <Wug> its the last one in the list
#396 [03:18] <tin> ok, I will try that. apparently I have to close this window to uninstall Java. So i will try the link above. Anything else I need to know before closing window
#397 [03:18] <DiskDaemon> Wug: Is there a non-web browser IRC client that you would recommend for newer users?
#398 [03:19] <Wug> tin: no. come back when youre done
#399 [03:19] <Wug> DiskDaemon: xchat
#400 [03:19] <Wug> its generic and easy to use and set up
#401 [03:19] <tin> ok
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#404 [03:25] <tin> I'm back. I uninstalled and installed Java for Windows 64 bit. Now when I click in browser, it opens to a screen that below the main bar says Minecraft but nothing else shows up.
#405 [03:26] <Wug> tin: try the download launcher
#406 [03:27] <Wug> that one will certainly work
#407 [03:27] <Wug> it will also probably not have the performance issues it used to
#408 [03:27] <Edwin_> Hi there, I have a problem with Java on my computer and I was wondering if one of you guys could help me... The thing is every time I play Minecraft I can play for like 15 min. before the client quits and I get an Exception_Access_Violation. I have been looking around for solutions but so far nothing helped... Any suggestions?
#409 [03:27] <Wug> minecraft doesnt usually run well on 32 bit java
#410 [03:27] <Wug> Edwin_: you probably also run on 32 bit java
#411 [03:28] <Wug> you however are on 32 bit windows 7
#412 [03:28] <Wug> youll need to fiddle with it a bit, theres no simple fix
#413 [03:28] <Edwin_> hmhm correct
#414 [03:28] <Wug> I suggest you stick minecraft.exe into your documents folder
#415 [03:28] <Wug> once its there, copy its full name
#416 [03:29] <Wug> how much ram do you have?
#417 [03:29] <Edwin_> 4 gigs so 3 accessible according to windows
#418 [03:29] <Wug> ok. youve got the full path of minecraft.exe copied?
#419 [03:29] <Wug> on your desktop, make a new shortcut
#420 [03:30] <Wug> for the target, use the following string:
#421 [03:30] <Wug> java -Xmx400m -cp [path to minecraft.exe in quotes] net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#422 [03:31] <Wug> you should be able to get it working from that
#423 [03:31] <Edwin_> I set Xmx to 768m in Java system options
#424 [03:32] <Edwin_> but that does the -cp do?
#425 [03:33] <Wug> cp stands for class path
#426 [03:33] <Edwin_> ah oke
#427 [03:33] <Wug> its the path in which java will search for classes to load
#428 [03:33] <Wug> the exe contains the classes used by the launcher
#429 [03:34] <Wug> I'm also not 100% sure when and how the launcher applies the options there
#430 [03:34] <Wug> but I suspect it might ignore them
#431 [03:34] <Wug> it was definitely ignoring them on that one guys machine. unsure if isolated incident or not
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#433 [03:35] <tin> Hey Wug - works in download and my son is thrilled. States he can play Far & Fancy and works great!
#434 [03:35] <Wug> np
#435 [03:35] <Wug> before you go
#436 [03:35] <Wug> you might consider reinstalling the 32 bit version of java as well
#437 [03:36] <tin> why
#438 [03:36] <Wug> you can get it from the download page if its still open
#439 [03:36] <Edwin_> I think we're about to find out :) and if not I think I'm gonna change to 64bit
#440 [03:36] <Wug> java wont work in browser without it, since you have a 32 bit browser
#441 [03:36] <Wug> probably not a big deal, but you might find yourself missing it
#442 [03:36] <Wug> reinstall it if you need it
#443 [03:37] <tin> so just put it on with the other one? it will use the one it wants
#444 [03:37] <Wug> yep
#445 [03:37] <tin> my son is wondering if dokucraft texture packs are ok to use.
#446 [03:38] <Necrodoom> tin: how much FPS are you getting?
#447 [03:38] <Wug> tin: I'm not sure if they will work without patching
#448 [03:39] <tin> about 15-30 fps
#449 [03:39] <Edwin_> hmmz it doesn't take the -cp part in the path. I get an "Unable to connect to server - Unknown host '-cp' "
#450 [03:42] <Wug> Edwin_: copy the entire thing youre using and paste it here
#451 [03:42] <DiskDaemon> I believe that the Saga Continues set is the more up to date set of the DokuCraft textures Exception_Access_Violation
#452 [03:42] <DiskDaemon> damn, hang on...
#453 [03:42] <DiskDaemon> http://minecraftcustomizer.net/pack/Dokucraft+-+The+Saga+Continues
#454 [03:42] * DiskDaemon curses multi-computer sharing software and its buggy cross-machine copy/paste
#454 [03:44] <tin> wug which one is the 32 bit in list
#455 [03:44] <Wug> tin: offline windows x86
#456 [03:48] <tin> Necrodoom is the FPS good?
#457 [03:49] <Necrodoom> tin: 15-30 FPS is quite low, you might want to up the performance a bit
#458 [03:49] <Necrodoom> tin: before getting texture pack
#459 [03:51] <tin> Got the 32 bit loaded too
#460 [03:51] <tin> how do I do that
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#463 [03:57] <tin> how do I up the performance?
#464 [03:57] <Necrodoom> mods for client
#465 [03:57] <Calinou> have a better CPU/GPU, tweak graphic settings, or use optifine
#466 [03:57] <Calinou> :P
#467 [03:57] <Necrodoom> or remove map.txt
#468 [03:58] <DiskDaemon> map.txt is required for the achievements window
#469 [03:58] <Calinou> ^ backup your minecraft.jar first if you do that
#470 [03:58] <DiskDaemon> It determines how the background is laid out
#471 [03:58] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: i play without it and its fine
#472 [03:58] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: improves gameplay smoothness by alot
#473 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> That's interesting - is it as simple to test such differences as it sounds?
#474 [03:59] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: yeah, shows up on F3
#475 [04:00] <Necrodoom> though more effect if your computer is weak
#476 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> Why does map.txt have such a dramatic impact on performance?
#477 [04:01] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: i dont know.
#478 [04:01] <tin> can I just back up minecraft.jar onto a usb?
#479 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> Wouldn't it be useful to find out then?
#480 [04:01] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, probably redrawing it every frame or whatever
#481 [04:02] <Calinou> <tin> can I just back up minecraft.jar onto a usb? < it's only 4 MB, put it in the same folder as the other
#482 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> It's only used on the achievements screen though
#483 [04:02] <Calinou> BTW I am talking about the GAME files not the LAUNCHER
#484 [04:02] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: i started with twitting notch, he denied it and blocked me
#485 [04:02] <Calinou> lol
#486 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: I won't accept that map.txt has any difference of performance, without actual testable figures
#487 [04:03] * DiskDaemon testing now
#487 [04:03] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: sure, try it yourself
#488 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> With map.txt removed I'm getting 55-60 fps, now to see how things go with map.txt left in there
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#490 [04:06] <Necrodoom> first off try look at achievements
#491 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> 65 fps with map.txt left in there, and looking at achievements too
#492 [04:07] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: hm
#493 [04:07] <Necrodoom> thats strange. getting an improvement of 10 FPS here
#494 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> Reloading back to without map.txt in case it was other activity from the previous that resulted in an impact
#495 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> A single data point is not the basis on which such decisions should be made around here. I've learned that one the hard way.
#496 [04:09] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: i did get a small group of testers
#497 [04:09] <tin> ok guys.....thank you for all the help. My son is happy the way it is so I'm going to stop while we are ahead. Have a good night. 3:08 AM here, time to go to bed. LOL
#498 [04:09] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: back when i found it
#499 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> Back without map.txt, on the achievements page, fps is back at 63 to 64 fps. I would say from testing here that the existense or not of map.txt causes no change to the fps at all
#500 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: Did you have a reliable and repeatable systemic system under which the testing occurred?
#501 [04:11] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: yes, though i mostly tested it during minecraft beta
#502 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> It may-well be that those results are no longer viable for the versions of Minecraft that now exist
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#504 [04:12] <Guest_> How come ModLoader doesnt let me load more than 13 Mods?
#505 [04:13] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: retesting with 1.2.5
#506 [04:14] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: a small boost from 100 avg to 110 avg, not really sure what to say to you
#507 [04:14] <tin> good night guys!
#508 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> I'm trying again, looking down a hallway this time. 60 fps with it there, and am testing without it there now
#509 [04:15] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: once chunk update bug wears off
#510 [04:15] <tin> im going to stay on here till somebody says good night lolol
#511 [04:15] <Necrodoom> tin: good night
#512 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> Both with and without map.txt results in around 60 fps here
#513 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> This is just when remaining still looking down a corridor
#514 [04:16] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: is your chunk update number identical to FPS?
#515 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> I'll go back and look
#516 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> without map.txt the fps is around 10 lower than the chunk updates
#517 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> With map.txt the fps is also around 10 lower than the chunk updates
#518 [04:18] <Necrodoom> hm, strange
#519 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> What I'm wanting to find is a margin of error that's statistically significant, which doesn't seerm to be occurring yet at this point
#520 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> 110 fps with 0 chunk updates, with map.txt still there
#521 [04:19] <Necrodoom> managed to force MC to 260 FPS, 0 chunk updates, trying with map.txt now
#522 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> same result here without map.txt - 110 fps with 0 chunk updates
#523 [04:23] <Necrodoom> exactly same settings, lower FPS with map.txt
#524 [04:23] <Necrodoom> this thing needs more testers
#525 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> Indeed - I'm using Magic Launcher to easily switch between minecraft.jar files with and without that map.txt file
#526 [04:23] <Necrodoom> 180 FPS with map.txt compared to 260 FPS without map.txt
#527 [04:23] <Necrodoom> manual editing
#528 [04:24] <Necrodoom> at chunk updates 0
#529 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> Maybe it's only on fster graphics cards that such results are seen
#530 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> who knows, it's anyone's guess without more data points
#531 [04:24] <Necrodoom> yeah, more testers needed
#532 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> Someone else on 9 April was saying that map.txt didn't show an increase on their system either http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/242976-possible-fix-for-14-minecraft-client-low-fps/page__view__findpost__p__3631058
#533 [04:27] <Necrodoom> yeah, due to 1.4_01
#534 [04:27] <Necrodoom> didnt get an effect on that version either
#535 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> That was back in beta days, yeah
#536 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> So I must come back to asking how does map.txt affect the frame rate. From what I see in the decompiled source code, it's only accessed from the AchievementMap method
#537 [04:31] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: thats the answer i got before aswell, i havent found an actual effect on the game except changing the achievement file
#538 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> How does your memory usage change with and without map.txt - when you are getting the best fps rates you can get both with and without it?
#539 [04:33] <Necrodoom> MC memory usage changes too often for me to measure
#540 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> You can figure out high and low figures for the used memory
#541 [04:34] <Necrodoom> you mean the one at F3? its broken
#542 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> For example, with map.txt the used memory goes from 90 up to 390 then back down to 90 again
#543 [04:35] <Necrodoom> oh, i see
#544 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> And without map.txt, the used memory goes from 80 up to 380, and back again. I'll check again with map.txt just to be sure
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#546 [04:37] <DiskDaemon> It's 80 up to 360 with map.txt this time around
#547 [04:37] <Necrodoom> goes from 90-100 to 190-220 with map.txt
#548 [04:37] <Necrodoom> chunk updates at 0
#549 [04:37] <Necrodoom> allocated at 481
#550 [04:39] <Necrodoom> running without map.txt now
#551 [04:40] <Necrodoom> without map.txt, goes 100 - 200, allocated at 475
#552 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> So if memory is related in this, it would seem that around 5 meg less used memory results in an extra 80 fps for yourself
#553 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> That's a lot of extra fps - can you understand why it's useful to find out where it's coming from?
#554 [04:43] <Necrodoom> yep
#555 [04:43] <Necrodoom> hm, my minecraft is using 30% CPU, with quad core
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#557 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoomq: Can you take a screenshot of the both best-case situations with and without map.txt, so that we can cross-compare other figures in the debug screen?
#558 [04:46] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: getting them now
#559 [04:46] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: though with both cases memory rises the more i walk
#560 [04:47] <Necrodoom> so il try 5 min into gameplay, while standing still
#561 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> righto - try to have as little as possible that's different between the two occasions
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#565 [04:53] <Necrodoom> uploading
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#567 [04:54] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: without map.txt: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/20120624115148.png/
#568 [04:54] <Necrodoom> with: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/20120624114755.png/
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#571 [05:14] <DiskDaemon> Yep, so it does seem to be only a couple of megabytes less of allocated memory, from what we can see from that debuggin info
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#578 [06:02] <Werster> I hvae a problem with minecraft: I wanted to use the LB Photo Realism Texture Pack. I patched Minecraft and loaded the Texture pack, But when I loaded a world, this happened: http://pastebin.com/AvLnC8Mj
#579 [06:03] <Werster> I am using Windows 7
#580 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> doesn't look like your video card can handle the HD texture pack
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#582 [06:13] <Werster> Okay. Is there a way to change that without installing a new video card?
#583 [06:13] <Grim_Reaper> Not really.
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#585 [06:14] <Werster> Thanks for your help. I will use a worse texture pack.
#586 [06:28] <Calinou> "worse"
#587 [06:28] <Calinou> *laughs*
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#593 [07:12] <Cenestial> Hi
#594 [07:12] <Cenestial> Can someone help me?
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#596 [07:12] <Cenestial> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1308631-is-this-normal/
#597 [07:12] <Calinou> yes? don't ask to ask
#598 [07:13] <Cenestial> I got a question on this thread
#599 [07:13] <deadawakeuk> Hi, does anyone know how I can get to the right starting area on the fall of gondolin on a multiplayer server ive set up?
#600 [07:13] <Calinou> nice rank :P hacks can't let a player change the color of their name tag
#601 [07:13] <Cenestial> But did you see the picture?
#602 [07:13] <Cenestial> Im not using any hacks o.o
#603 [07:14] <Calinou> before "hackcusing" someone, always have proof
#604 [07:14] <Cenestial> No, it's me
#605 [07:14] <DiskDaemon> Cenestial: I would suspect that most of us here haven't even heard of the fall of gondolin before.
#606 [07:14] <Calinou> know what hacks can and cannot do
#607 [07:14] <Cenestial> I was the one being accused
#608 [07:14] <Cenestial> I posted this screenshot
#609 [07:14] <Cenestial> And they said I have hacks
#610 [07:14] <Calinou> also you don't see the names of crouching people
#611 [07:14] <Cenestial> Becuase his name color was different
#612 [07:14] <Cenestial> When you're close up
#613 [07:15] <Necrodoom> Cenestial: lol, never never heard of crouching
#614 [07:15] <Necrodoom> Cenestial: nor of texture packs?
#615 [07:15] <Cenestial> Even if they are like 2 blocks away?
#616 [07:15] <Cenestial> You cant see their name?
#617 [07:15] <Cenestial> What o.o
#618 [07:15] <deadawakeuk> Hi, does anyone know how I can get to the right starting area on the fall of gondolin on a multiplayer server ive set up? Anyone?
#619 [07:16] <Calinou> deadawakeuk, what's that map?
#620 [07:16] <Calinou> ._.
#621 [07:16] <deadawakeuk> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/906458-adv-the-fall-of-gondolin-lotr-adventure-map-20000-downloads-yogscast-played-this-made-by-mcme/
#622 [07:16] <Calinou> also we don't really help with third party content
#623 [07:16] <Calinou> Cenestial, crouching prevents seeing names through walls, any distance
#624 [07:16] <deadawakeuk> Well it's more of a question of how to teleport to places, like is there a command to go to a map starting area?
#625 [07:16] <Calinou> however in some cases names are still visible, if your name tag is actually IN the wall because you are too close to the wall
#626 [07:17] <Calinou> deadawakeuk, use SPC
#627 [07:17] <Calinou> erm nevermind
#628 [07:17] <Calinou> just use creative?
#629 [07:18] <deadawakeuk> Should I be loading this as a multiplayer game then or open it as a singleplayer and try and get my mate in?
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#631 [07:18] <Calinou> no
#632 [07:19] <Calinou> you can teleport people to yourself and inversely: /teleport <player> <target>
#633 [07:19] <Calinou> you need op access though, op yourself in the console first using "op yourname"
#634 [07:19] <Calinou> without quotes
#635 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> The rules of mcmiddleearth.com (who created the fall of gondolin) says that there are some beds that can be used as checkpoints
#636 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> I don't see info on the map though about how to get back to the starting area. They have a Player Commands section, but it's still waiting for content http://www.mcmiddleearth.com/player-commands/
#637 [07:21] <deadawakeuk> It's just a singleplayer to multiplayer issue, when I load it in singleplayer I spawn in the correct start point but when I load up the world in multi I'm in a random point!
#638 [07:21] <Calinou> multiplayer spawn point is random
#639 [07:21] <deadawakeuk> There must be a way because people have played it co op and they started in the right place
#640 [07:21] <Calinou> write the coords of the real spawn somewhere, then get to those in multiplayer using creative
#641 [07:21] <Calinou> no there isn't
#642 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> deadawakeuk: Contact the server ops then - they'll know what to do
#643 [07:22] <Necrodoom> bukkit?
#644 [07:22] <Cenestial> Oh Calinou, can I ask 1 more thing?
#645 [07:22] <Cenestial> The guy Subxero00 was glitching into the block
#646 [07:22] <Cenestial> Is that why his name was like that?
#647 [07:22] <Calinou> explain "glitching" please
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#649 [07:23] <Cenestial> It is a multiplayer server
#650 [07:23] <Calinou> I know
#651 [07:23] <Cenestial> Its my territory
#652 [07:23] <Cenestial> And he cant break the block
#653 [07:23] <Cenestial> So he breaks it, crouches in
#654 [07:23] <Calinou> there is a known quirk that allows teleporting upwards on reconnection
#655 [07:23] <Cenestial> And the block respawns on him
#656 [07:23] <Calinou> blame mojang
#657 [07:23] <Cenestial> Thats why he opened my chest without being in the base
#658 [07:23] <Calinou> you can't break a block to directly pass through, though - there is a noclip prevention and it works quite well
#659 [07:23] <Calinou> chests can be opened through walls, yes
#660 [07:23] <Cenestial> Is that possibly why his name is that color?
#661 [07:24] <deadawakeuk> actually is there a command to fly on vanilla servers?
#662 [07:24] <Calinou> no, his name was in moon light, that's why it was blue
#663 [07:24] <Calinou> deadawakeuk, creative game mode
#664 [07:24] <Cenestial> I don't have hacks, and a mod said I do because he has a grey name
#665 [07:24] <Cenestial> Thanks Calinou
#666 [07:24] <Cenestial> I appreciate it
#667 [07:24] <Cenestial> :)
#668 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> deadawakeuk: I suggest that you contact a foreman (cyan color) or a guide (aqua color) for assistance there
#669 [07:24] <Calinou> no problem
#670 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> deadawakeuk: http://www.mcmiddleearth.com/ranks-duties/
#671 [07:24] <deadawakeuk> It's my private server, I've set one up on hamachi and I'm just trying to get me and my friend into the same world
#672 [07:25] <DiskDaemon> deadawakeuk: Are you an op on your server then?
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#674 [07:25] <deadawakeuk> yep
#675 [07:25] <DiskDaemon> deadawakeuk: What help do you need then?
#676 [07:25] <deadawakeuk> How can I set myself to be able to fly?
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#679 [07:27] <Calinou> deadawakeuk, op yourself, /gamemode your_name 1
#680 [07:28] <DiskDaemon> and if you want to fly, ensure that server.properties has the allow-flight property set to be true
#681 [07:29] <deadawakeuk> done thanks guys, guess I'm gonna have to fly around and attempt to find the start point
#682 [07:34] <deadawakeuk> is there a way of transferring a save from singleplayer to multiplayer, so if I sleep on a bed in singleplayer and place that world into the multiplayer server will it put me in the same palce?
#683 [07:36] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that multiplayer can be made to work in that way
#684 [07:37] <Necrodoom> why people dont use bukkit for these stuff
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#686 [07:38] <deadawakeuk> It worked haha
#687 [07:38] <deadawakeuk> Sorry to have been a pain guys, either it worked or spawned me randomly i nthe right place this time
#688 [07:51] <Calinou> <DiskDaemon> and if you want to fly, ensure that server.properties has the allow-flight property set to be true
#689 [07:51] <Calinou> creative mode ignores flight prevention
#690 [07:52] <Calinou> it still works
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#700 [08:34] <Pommy> hey
#701 [08:34] <TheNoodle> Hey Pommy, how can we help?
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#703 [08:34] <Pommy> oh....i thought...wernt u on the other channel?
#704 [08:35] <TheNoodle> :D
#705 [08:35] <Kamal> Pommy pastebin.com
#706 [08:35] <Kamal> Paste the crashlog there
#707 [08:35] <Pommy> i can copy it direct from mc, right?
#708 [08:35] <Kamal> yes
#709 [08:35] <Pommy> then i
#710 [08:35] <Pommy> 'ill do that
#711 [08:36] <Pommy> i think its a java thing, because when i open a .jar it says java exception occured
#712 [08:36] <Pawn77> Hi, I have a big problem. When I'm playing minecraft, it automatically freeze after around 12 minutes, and then I am forced to shut down the program with the tasks manager. What should I do?
#713 [08:36] <DiskDaemon> ??> Pawn77 win/dxdiag
#714 [08:36] <Kamal> Pommy you shouldn't open minecraft.jar directly
#715 [08:37] <VoxelHead> Pawn77: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#716 [08:37] <VoxelHead> Pawn77: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#717 [08:37] <Pawn77> Ok, I'm asking for a friend because he doesn't speak english, I'm telling him to do that.
#718 [08:37] <Pommy> oh
#719 [08:37] <Pommy> okay
#720 [08:38] <TheNoodle> lol.
#721 [08:38] <DiskDaemon> troubleshooting by proxy - fun.
#722 [08:38] <Pommy> it will onyl open that one line...: Minecraft has crashed!
#723 [08:39] <Kamal> Pommy put the mouse next to the M in 'Minecraft has crashed' and drag it down until you select all of it
#724 [08:39] <Pommy> i did, i did control d and control v, then i did copy and pask with right click, it just does Minecraft has crashed!
#725 [08:40] <Kamal> control+d ?
#726 [08:40] <Pommy> i mean c
#727 [08:40] <DiskDaemon> Kamal: Is it worthwhile him using this launcher to get a crash report, as minecraft.log in the .minecraft folder? http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/.minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar
#728 [08:41] <Kamal> mcerror is a program by мєđsoυz (With help from Ŗíķíñġ and GUI by Ṁäĺqüä!) to log Minecraft's output and errors view the source and download on GitHub! http://bit.ly/t154lG If you find a glitch/bug/something not working please file an issue on github, thanks. :)
#729 [08:41] <Pommy> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 --------
#730 [08:41] <Kamal> DiskDaemon it's not always there
#731 [08:42] <TheNoodle> Pommy, you need to use pastebin.
#732 [08:42] <Kamal> awesome
#733 [08:42] <TheNoodle> http://pastebin.com
#734 [08:42] <Pommy> kk
#735 [08:43] <Kamal> what is voxelhead coded in?
#736 [08:43] <Pommy> i put it in the box
#737 [08:43] <Pommy> now what
#738 [08:43] <Kamal> save it, and paste the link here
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#740 [08:44] <Pommy> http://pastebin.com/pS8cVkZJ
#741 [08:44] <Pommy> there
#742 [08:45] <Kamal> do you have any mods installed?
#743 [08:45] <Pommy> no
#744 [08:45] <Pommy> i didnt fiddle with the lang files
#745 [08:45] <Pommy> *did
#746 [08:45] <Pommy> it worked perfectly, so i dont thing thats it
#747 [08:45] <DiskDaemon> Does it no longer crash when things ar returned back to a vanilla install?
#748 [08:46] <Pommy> no it continues
#749 [08:46] <Pommy> i reinstalled mc, force updated
#750 [08:46] <Pommy> it continues to crash after a long pause on the "Mojang" Screen
#751 [08:46] <lutzee> are the lang files redownloaded on force update?
#752 [08:46] <Pommy> ...i think
#753 [08:47] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#754 [08:47] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#755 [08:47] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#756 [08:47] <Pommy> i made a new lang file and after force update it was gone
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#758 [08:48] <Pommy> wow...50 excess items...
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#760 [08:48] <Pommy> woxelhead
#761 [08:49] <lutzee> VoxelHead, is a bot
#762 [08:49] <Kamal> Pommy try moving the new language file outside the minecraft directory
#763 [08:49] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead is out bot :)
#764 [08:49] <Kamal> o hai lutzee
#765 [08:49] <Pommy> oh XD
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#767 [08:49] <Morvar> Wut. A bomb guy had spawned in my animal cage and killed 80% of them. How close do the lights need to be in order to prevent mob spawning?
#768 [08:49] <Pommy> well can anyone 'else help me
#769 [08:49] <Pommy> a bomb guy...?
#770 [08:49] <Morvar> That green thing which explodes
#771 [08:49] <mrgummage> Creaper
#772 [08:49] <Pommy> oh
#773 [08:49] <DiskDaemon> Mobs spawn at a light level of 7 or less
#774 [08:49] <Pommy> yeah
#775 [08:50] <Kamal> Creepet
#776 [08:50] <Morvar> Hmm, thanks
#777 [08:50] <lutzee> Pommy, do what VoxelHead said though :p
#778 [08:50] <Kamal> Creeper*
#779 [08:50] <Pommy> i did
#780 [08:50] <Pommy> lemme try mc again
#781 [08:50] <Kamal> [15:49]<Kamal> Pommy try moving the new language file outside the minecraft directory
#782 [08:50] <DiskDaemon> Sunlight and glowstones are 15, torches start at 14. Light decreases by one for every block
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#784 [08:50] <Pommy> it dosnt exist anymore
#785 [08:50] <Pommy> i fore updated
#786 [08:50] <mrgummage> Thatsssssss a nice pile of livestock ssssshame if anything happened to it...
#787 [08:50] <lutzee> okay run minecraft
#788 [08:50] <DiskDaemon> Be careful when counting light values, for light doesn't travel diagonally
#789 [08:50] <Pawn77> I was wondering, is there a possibility to make minecraft portable on an usb key?
#790 [08:50] <Morvar> At least I'm gonna have quite nice BBQ party
#791 [08:50] <Pommy> okay lets see
#792 [08:51] <Pommy> o.0
#793 [08:51] <Pommy> it satid "Login Failed"
#794 [08:51] <Pommy> what does that even mean
#795 [08:51] <DiskDaemon> Pommy: Type in your username and password
#796 [08:51] <Pommy> oh....wow...i forgot i got rid of it
#797 [08:51] <mrgummage> Top of my head maths I'd say a torch every 5 blocks in both directions to be safe?
#798 [08:51] <Pommy> i fell stupid now....
#799 [08:51] <Pommy> XD
#800 [08:51] <Pommy> okay it works
#801 [08:51] <Pommy> voxel head won
#802 [08:52] <DiskDaemon> mrgummage: Every 10 blocks at least, but it depends on how low to the ground they are as well
#803 [08:52] <Pommy> and it clearly says Jeb has Amazing Hair
#804 [08:52] <DiskDaemon> Pawn77: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/37311-minecraft-portable-271-java-portable-minecraft-on-your-usb-now-supports-macs/
#805 [08:53] <Pawn77> Cheers
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#807 [09:15] <M13Mass> What is minecraft
#808 [09:16] <Morvar> Creepers again! Is there any easy way to tell if I got light level 7?
#809 [09:16] <M13Mass> Fn F3
#810 [09:16] <M13Mass> look at your Bl
#811 [09:16] <M13Mass> BL or blocklight
#812 [09:16] <Kamal> .g what is minecraft
#813 [09:16] <M13Mass> 7 or below creepers or mobs can spawn
#814 [09:16] <Kamal> >:
#815 [09:17] <M13Mass> lol
#816 [09:17] <Morvar> M13Mass Thank you!
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#818 [09:18] <sodor> hello
#819 [09:18] <M13Mass> hello
#820 [09:18] <M13Mass> need help?
#821 [09:18] <sodor> yea
#822 [09:18] <M13Mass> okay go for it
#823 [09:18] <sodor> i just bought minecraft
#824 [09:18] <M13Mass> mhmm
#825 [09:18] <M13Mass> welcome
#826 [09:18] <sodor> and when i get to login screen and it says cud not connect to minecraft.net
#827 [09:18] <sodor> my firewall is off
#828 [09:19] <M13Mass> hmm are you sure you are using the correct Username and Password
#829 [09:19] <M13Mass> If now re download the luancher
#830 [09:19] <Necrodoom> M13Mass: how is that related
#831 [09:19] <sodor> yea
#832 [09:19] <mrgummage> Simply turning off a firewall may not be enough, because turning the firewall off doesn't automatically open the ports. You should turn your firewall back on and add an exception for Minecraft.
#833 [09:20] <lutzee> It's either that or java is defaulting to IPv6,
#834 [09:20] <sodor> tried that allready :( my friend can log in on my acc without problems
#835 [09:20] <lutzee> oh right
#836 [09:20] <Pawn77> Try to press Windows + R and type "ping minecraft.net"
#837 [09:21] <sodor> yes
#838 [09:21] <lutzee> If one person can login but not another then it's another problem
#839 [09:21] <geraldbrent> Do you have any antivirus or malware detection programs that could block the launcher from connecting?
#840 [09:21] <sodor> i have avg
#841 [09:21] <lutzee> ah
#842 [09:21] <lutzee> Disable the link scanner module in AVG
#843 [09:22] <sodor> kay i try it now :D
#844 [09:22] <sodor> didn't work eaither :(
#845 [09:22] <M13Mass> hope it works for you
#846 [09:23] <lutzee> Sodor, what version of java do you have?
#847 [09:24] <sodor> dont know
#848 [09:24] <sodor> i dont know *
#849 [09:24] <M13Mass> do you know how to check?
#850 [09:24] <mrgummage> sodor: did you turn your firewall back on and add an exception for minecraft.exe and javaw.exe?
#851 [09:24] <lutzee> okay, press windows key + r, in the box type cmd and press enter, in the prompt that opens type java -version and press enter
#852 [09:24] <Pawn77> Go on the control panel, click on Java and then on "about"
#853 [09:24] <sodor> no i dont know how to check and i did not make en exception for java
#854 [09:25] <lutzee> that will give you the java version
#855 [09:25] <mrgummage> What type of firewall do you use?
#856 [09:26] <sodor> windows firewall
#857 [09:26] <sodor> but i cant see the information on verision of java
#858 [09:26] <Pawn77> Go on the control panel, click on Java and then on "about"
#859 [09:27] <sodor> cant see the java in control pannel you are talking about
#860 [09:27] <lutzee> sodor do what i said
#861 [09:27] <sodor> i did it did not work
#862 [09:28] <Pawn77> so java is not installed on your machine
#863 [09:28] <lutzee> not nessasarily
#864 [09:28] <sodor> i installed it serverel times
#865 [09:28] <mrgummage> lutzee: If you do that the box disappears before you can read it.
#866 [09:28] <mrgummage> sodor, do Start + R, type "cmd" and enter and in the new box type "java -version".
#867 [09:28] <lutzee> if java isn't in the class path then the command won't work
#868 [09:29] <sodor> but if i go to remove programs i got java(tm) 7
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#870 [09:29] <lutzee> Okay, thats getting somewhere
#871 [09:30] <sodor> java(TM) 7 udate 5
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#873 [09:31] <Pawn77> Try to press Windows + R then "cmd" and type "ping minecraft.net"
#874 [09:31] <lutzee> Pawn77, that won't help
#875 [09:31] <lutzee> it's java trying to use IPv6
#876 [09:31] <sodor> dit it but the box disapears
#877 [09:31] <Pawn77> might be a DNS issue
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#879 [09:32] <lutzee> It's not, sodor open notepad and copy this in "java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar minecraft.exe " without quotes, then save it as launch.bat to the same folder as your minecraft.exe
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#881 [09:33] <lutzee> then run that file like a program and it will launch minecraft
#882 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> You can also add that to the runtime parameters of Java
#883 [09:33] <lutzee> then try login
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#885 [09:34] <DiskDaemon> A detailed explanation of how to add it to your default runtime parameters can be found in this post http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/page__view__findpost__p__15934547
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#887 [09:36] <lutzee> maybe we should add that to VoxelHead?
#888 [09:36] <Oxymoron> I'm not having a lot of luck trying to play Minecraft Classic. I'm sure that my version of Java is up to date.
#889 [09:36] <Oxymoron> I'm not having a lot of luck trying to play Minecraft Classic. I'm sure that my version of Java is up to date.
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#891 [09:37] <DiskDaemon> If you know the syntax to add that, then please do. java/ipv6 might be a good place for it
#892 [09:37] <sodor> second
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#894 [09:37] <tikker> what is the problem oxymoron?
#895 [09:37] <lutzee> i think it was ??+ but i don't know what to write fo rhte text :p
#896 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> Let's see what's currently there
#897 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> ?? java/ipv6
#898 [09:38] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#899 [09:38] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#900 [09:38] <sodor> i does not open minecraft that notepad you told me to save
#901 [09:38] <Remad> Hi, I have a problem. After 12 minutes I play Minecraft, It freezes totally. I did a dxdiag: http://snipurl.com/2429zqu can you help?
#902 [09:39] <Oxymoron> After pressing Allow and then Run it still doesn't do anything. All I see is a black box where the game should be.
#903 [09:39] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: I think that I'd prefer seeing what GreyVulpine wants to do in terms of making use of that runtime parameters information
#904 [09:39] <computerdude5000> remad what else are u running when u play minecraft?
#905 [09:40] <tikker> @Oxymoron, maybe your java isn't up to date or too up to date (JRE 7)
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#907 [09:40] <Oxymoron> I'm sure it is.
#908 [09:41] <Oxymoron> Checking for updates right now.
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#910 [09:41] <Bam_Itz_Minerz> My minecraft game keeps freezing. What should I do?
#911 [09:41] <Remad> Sometimes Skype and Firefox, but even if I dont run programs, it do the same
#912 [09:41] <tikker> is there an error in the java console?
#913 [09:41] <tikker> oxy?
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#915 [09:41] <sodor> duh hello :D
#916 [09:42] <tikker> @Oxymoron, do you have Java 6 or Java 7?
#917 [09:42] <computerdude5000> remad hmmm cause what got me at first was the ram usage it was maxed out
#918 [09:42] <tikker> because Java 7 is known to cause more problems with minecraft
#919 [09:42] <Bam_Itz_Minerz> My minecraft game keeps freezing can someine help?
#920 [09:42] <Oxymoron> I just checked for updates. Nothing to install.
#921 [09:43] <Oxymoron> Not sure exactly what version I have.
#922 [09:43] <tikker> open up a console
#923 [09:43] <tikker> cmd
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#925 [09:43] <Bam_Itz_Minerz> help!
#926 [09:43] <Oxymoron> Console?
#927 [09:44] <tikker> cmd window
#928 [09:44] <Bam_Itz_Minerz> ??
#929 [09:44] <Oxymoron> You mean the program console?
#930 [09:44] <tikker> yes
#931 [09:44] <tikker> startmenu>run>type cmd
#932 [09:44] <tikker> then type "java -version" without the quotes
#933 [09:44] <Oxymoron> Okay, I see a bunch what would probably be tasks.
#934 [09:45] <tikker> ?
#935 [09:45] <sodor> lutzee
#936 [09:45] <tikker> i mean the cmd
#937 [09:45] <tikker> black window with white letters
#938 [09:45] <gerald|away> Command prompt.
#939 [09:45] <computerdude5000> should say ur account for the computers name
#940 [09:45] <tikker> yes
#941 [09:45] <tikker> i have to go for about 30 minutes, so if anyone can help this guy from here?
#942 [09:46] <Oxymoron> Wait, Command Prompt or Console?
#943 [09:46] <Oxymoron> Terminal?
#944 [09:46] <computerdude5000> w8 what os u on?
#945 [09:46] <Oxymoron> OS X.
#946 [09:47] <computerdude5000> so yes terminal
#947 [09:48] <Oxymoron> I typed in "java-version" an it says "command not found".
#948 [09:48] <computerdude5000> without the quotes?
#949 [09:48] <Oxymoron> Yes.
#950 [09:49] <computerdude5000> go to this page real quick it will tell the version
#951 [09:49] <computerdude5000> http://javatester.org/version.html
#952 [09:50] <computerdude5000> actually os x only has java 6 apple still hasnt updated
#953 [09:51] <Oxymoron> It says "Java Version 1.6.0_33 from Apple Inc"
#954 [09:51] <Oxymoron> I'm guessing that mean I'm using 6?
#955 [09:52] <computerdude5000> yep java 6 update 33 latest version of java 6
#956 [09:52] <computerdude5000> did you do any modding of the minecraft.jar file ?
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#958 [10:00] <Guest_> when i attempt to start minecraft i get an error that say "fatal error occured (5): a device attached to the system is not functioning"
#959 [10:01] <computerdude5000> what os?
#960 [10:01] <Guest_> xp
#961 [10:02] <Guest_> this is when i attempt minecraft classic, btw
#962 [10:04] <computerdude5000> ok the event viewer might give us more info do: Click Start, and then click Control Panel. Click Performance and Maintenance, then click Administrative Tools, and then double-click Computer Management
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#964 [10:06] <Guest_> done
#965 [10:07] <computerdude5000> you should see 3 tabs called : The Application, Security, and System logs are displayed in the Event Viewer window. click on system logs and then look for any logs that have the error code 5
#966 [10:10] <Guest_> i see some error logs, but they dont say code 5...
#967 [10:11] <computerdude5000> ok then try applications
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#969 [10:12] <computerdude5000> wb tikker
#970 [10:13] <tikker> ty
#971 [10:14] <computerdude5000> he had java 6_33 he was on os x which means no 7
#972 [10:14] <computerdude5000> and then he timed out
#973 [10:14] <tikker> well since he was on mac
#974 [10:15] <tikker> i just found a thread that could help him
#975 [10:15] <tikker> but closed the tab XS
#976 [10:15] <Guest_> ok, no error messages in applications either
#977 [10:15] <computerdude5000> ctrl shift t
#978 [10:15] <computerdude5000> tikker you know anything about when i attempt to start minecraft i get an error that say "fatal error occured (5): a device attached to the system is not functioning" on windows xp
#979 [10:16] <Guest_> this is while loading the applet, btw
#980 [10:16] <tikker> what devices are attached
#981 [10:17] <tikker> what is the complete error log?
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#983 [10:18] <Guest_> an error occured while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occured (5): A device attached to the system is not functioning
#984 [10:18] <Guest_> an error occured while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occured (5): A device attached to the system is not functioning
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#987 [10:19] <tikker> you are the same computerdude5000 and Guest_ ?
#988 [10:20] <Guest_> what? no
#989 [10:20] <computerdude5000> no i copied his message
#990 [10:21] <tikker> what devices are attached
#991 [10:21] <tikker> it may be some USB stuff
#992 [10:21] <Guest_> something attached to my computer via usb may be causing minecraft not to load?
#993 [10:22] <tikker> it might, if minecraft uses that device
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#995 [10:22] <Guest_> o yea, i have been having problems with my speakers not working
#996 [10:22] <tikker> try to unplug the speakers and launch mc
#997 [10:23] <Guest_> ok, gimme a minute to get behind here
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#999 [10:25] <Guest_> i disconnected them and i get the same message
#1000 [10:25] <tikker> mmm
#1001 [10:26] <tikker> it is the browser right?
#1002 [10:26] <tikker> try a different browser, or the client
#1003 [10:26] <Guest_> lemme try different browser
#1004 [10:28] <Guest_> did the same thing in internet explorer
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#1006 [10:28] <tikker> try the client
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#1008 [10:30] <khaltzane> minecraft gets to the done loading part and then black screens and crashes
#1009 [10:30] <tikker> jar file may be corrupted
#1010 [10:30] <computerdude5000> did u install mods?
#1011 [10:30] <tikker> try force update
#1012 [10:30] <Guest_> when i try the client, it comes up with a message that says "could not create the Java virtual machine"
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#1014 [10:31] <Guest_> this is my first attempt at minecraft
#1015 [10:31] <Calinou> hi
#1016 [10:31] <khaltzane> no mods. i have force updated before and i re installed it several times. also the browser version gets to the done loading screen with a cm left to go and freezes
#1017 [10:31] <tikker> @Guest_ that is java
#1018 [10:31] <tikker> try this:
#1019 [10:31] <tikker> 1. make a new textfile
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#1021 [10:32] <khaltzane> me or guest?
#1022 [10:32] <Calinou> no
#1023 [10:32] <tikker> guest
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#1025 [10:32] <Calinou> tikker, protip: shift+right click > open command line
#1026 [10:32] <Calinou> lol, spam
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#1031 [10:32] <Calinou> GreyVulpine, Kealper, Wug
#1032 [10:32] <Calinou> ping
#1033 [10:32] <Calinou> DO NOT CLICK
#1034 [10:32] <tikker> calinou what do you mean
#1035 [10:32] <Calinou> ._. spam
#1036 [10:32] <computerdude5000> aww no kick of him rats
#1037 [10:33] <Calinou> tikker, do you want him to open command lien?
#1038 [10:33] <tikker> no
#1039 [10:33] <tikker> i want him to make a bat file
#1040 [10:33] <Calinou> ^ same thing -_____-
#1041 [10:33] <Calinou> shift+right click > open command line > type the command
#1042 [10:34] <Guest_> whoa you lost me
#1043 [10:34] <Guest_> shift+right click on what?
#1044 [10:35] <Calinou> Guest_, do shift + right click, click "open command line here" or whatever it is
#1045 [10:35] <Calinou> then type in without quotes: "java -version"
#1046 [10:35] <tikker> right click on an empty space
#1047 [10:35] <tikker> then click on "Open command line here"
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#1049 [10:35] <Calinou> if the .exe minecraft launcher does not work, you might try this one too: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1050 [10:35] <tikker> then type in: java -Xms600M -jar <path to minecraft.exe here>
#1051 [10:36] <Calinou> tikker, pointless to point to .exe
#1052 [10:36] <tikker> no
#1053 [10:36] <Calinou> you can only use arguments for the linux/other launcher, aka jar
#1054 [10:36] <tikker> i run it the same way
#1055 [10:36] <Calinou> -_-
#1056 [10:36] <tikker> nope
#1057 [10:36] <Calinou> .exe is a wrapper
#1058 [10:36] <tikker> you can run the exe with that line
#1059 [10:36] <Calinou> nothing else
#1060 [10:36] <Calinou> well, it is pointless, no debug lines at all
#1061 [10:36] <tikker> java -Xms800m -jar "C:\Users\Frits\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\Minecraft.exe
#1062 [10:36] <tikker> that's how i run it
#1063 [10:36] <tikker> and it works
#1064 [10:36] <Calinou> why don't you specify any -Xmx?
#1065 [10:36] <Calinou> also, why is your minecraft.exe in appdata?
#1066 [10:37] <Calinou> also, why don't you use %appdata%? (shorter)
#1067 [10:37] <Calinou> also: we like your username
#1068 [10:37] <tikker> :)
#1069 [10:37] <Guest_> when i shift+right click, it only gives me the same menu as when i just right click
#1070 [10:37] <computerdude5000> and im out for while back later
#1071 [10:37] <tikker> right click on an empty space
#1072 [10:37] <khaltzane> what do i do for my problem
#1073 [10:37] <Calinou> Guest_, download this, put on desktop:https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1074 [10:37] <Calinou> double click
#1075 [10:38] <tikker> you can try that too
#1076 [10:38] <khaltzane> ok
#1077 [10:38] <Calinou> khaltzane, what problem
#1078 [10:38] <tikker> but calinou, that is the same as the exe, except the exe wraps that one
#1079 [10:38] <Guest_> i tried that calinou, i got the same error message
#1080 [10:38] <tikker> make a bat file
#1081 [10:38] <tikker> do you know how to?
#1082 [10:38] <khaltzane> minecraft gets to the done loading part and then black screens and crashes. no mods, re installed 3 times, forced update 3 times
#1083 [10:38] <Guest_> no i do not, tiker
#1084 [10:38] <Guest_> tikker*
#1085 [10:39] <tikker> make a new textfile
#1086 [10:39] <khaltzane> still crashed
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#1088 [10:39] <tikker> then add this line: java -Xms600M -jar Minecraft.exe
#1089 [10:39] <Calinou> Guest_, what error message?
#1090 [10:39] <Calinou> khaltzane, are you using java 7? downgrade to java 6 and use the .jar launcher and it should work
#1091 [10:39] <tikker> then go to: file>save as> as name type in: "launch.bat" WITH quotes
#1092 [10:40] <Calinou> 1) uninstall java from control panel
#1093 [10:40] <tikker> well any name will do
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#1095 [10:40] <Guest_> could not create Java virtual machine, calinou
#1096 [10:40] <khaltzane> ok thanks ill try
#1097 [10:40] <Calinou> 2) download java 6 from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#1098 [10:40] <Calinou> (Windows x86 Offline for 32 bit, Windows x64 for 64 bit)
#1099 [10:40] <Guest_> um... how do i make a new textfile?
#1100 [10:40] <Kamal> mcerror is a program by мєđsoυz (With help from Ŗíķíñġ and GUI by Ṁäĺqüä!) to log Minecraft's output and errors view the source and download on GitHub! http://bit.ly/t154lG If you find a glitch/bug/something not working please file an issue on github, thanks. :
#1101 [10:40] <Calinou> make sure you use 64 bit version if you are on a 64 bit OS
#1102 [10:40] <Kamal> this is for getting crashlogs easily
#1103 [10:40] <Calinou> Kamal, medsouz riking malqua
#1104 [10:40] <Calinou> yay ping
#1105 [10:40] <Kamal> Calinou wut
#1106 [10:41] <khaltzane> i have java 6 update 31
#1107 [10:41] <Calinou> oh okay, no need to redownload it then
#1108 [10:41] <Calinou> khaltzane, download this, put on desktop and run: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1109 [10:41] <Calinou> (just double click and it should work)
#1110 [10:41] <khaltzane> already tried
#1111 [10:41] <khaltzane> brb
#1112 [10:42] <Kamal> Calinou you should add mcerror to voxelheasd
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#1114 [10:42] <khaltzane_> back
#1115 [10:42] <khaltzane_> still crashes
#1116 [10:43] <Guest_> what do you mean by make a new textfile? like, notepad or something?
#1117 [10:43] <tikker> yes
#1118 [10:43] <tikker> right click> new> textfile
#1119 [10:43] <Kamal> ....try mcerror
#1120 [10:44] <khaltzane_> where do i get mcerror from
#1121 [10:45] <tikker> @guest then add this: java -Xms600M -jar Minecraft.exe
#1122 [10:45] <Kamal> mcerror is a program by мєđsoυz (With help from Ŗíķíñġ and GUI by Ṁäĺqüä!) to log Minecraft's output and errors view the source and download on GitHub! http://bit.ly/t154lG If you find a glitch/bug/something not working please file an issue on github, thanks. :
#1123 [10:45] <khaltzane_> ok
#1124 [10:46] <Kamal> .r mcerror test
#1125 [10:46] <Kamal> >>r test test
#1126 [10:46] <khaltzane_> how the hell d oyou run it
#1127 [10:47] <Kamal> clikc the downloads button
#1128 [10:47] <Guest_> ok
#1129 [10:47] <khaltzane_> done
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#1131 [10:49] <khaltzane_> ,maybe its my ram. it screwed up last night :s
#1132 [10:49] <Guest_> i added the line, saved it as "launch.bat"
#1133 [10:49] <Guest_> now what?
#1134 [10:50] <tikker> run that
#1135 [10:50] <tikker> double click on it
#1136 [10:50] <Guest_> ok, it came up for a split second, then went away, now what?
#1137 [10:52] <tikker> mm
#1138 [10:52] <tikker> right click on the file>edit
#1139 [10:52] <tikker> and add pause on a new line
#1140 [10:52] <Guest_> k
#1141 [10:52] <tikker> after that you run it again
#1142 [10:52] <tikker> and you will be able to see the error
#1143 [10:53] <Guest_> by pause you mean just hit enter at the end, right?
#1144 [10:54] <tikker> yes
#1145 [10:54] <tikker> the window will stay open til you hit a key
#1146 [10:54] <Guest_> nope, did the same thing
#1147 [10:55] <tikker> you have to add the word "pause" to the file
#1148 [10:55] <tikker> on a new line
#1149 [10:55] <tikker> so line 1: java -Xms600M -jar Minecraft.exe
#1150 [10:55] <tikker> line 2: pause
#1151 [10:56] <Guest_> it says Unable to acces jarfile minecraft.exe
#1152 [10:56] <tikker> mmm weird
#1153 [10:56] <tikker> i run it the same way
#1154 [10:56] <tikker> one moment
#1155 [10:57] <tikker> are the exe and the bat file in the same directory?
#1156 [10:58] <Guest_> would both being on the desktop count as being in the same directory?
#1157 [10:58] <tikker> yes
#1158 [10:59] <Guest_> it just did it
#1159 [10:59] <Guest_> it opened
#1160 [10:59] <tikker> does it work?
#1161 [10:59] <tikker> can you login and play?
#1162 [11:00] <Guest_> well... i can't login cuz i havent bought the game. i was trying to play it in classic mode to check it out
#1163 [11:00] <tikker> o you wanted to play classic
#1164 [11:00] <Guest_> indeed
#1165 [11:00] <tikker> i'm terribly sorry i misunderstood
#1166 [11:01] <Guest_> no problem, i would have just had that problem later anyway
#1167 [11:01] <Guest_> could you help me to get classic to work?
#1168 [11:02] <tikker> well the error won't pop up on minecraft :)
#1169 [11:02] <tikker> i will do what i can to help you play classic
#1170 [11:03] <Guest_> well, the error message is such as follows:
#1171 [11:04] <Guest_> an error occurred while loading the applet. Please contact support to resolve this issue. Fatal error occurred (5): a device attached to the system is not working
#1172 [11:05] <Guest_> a fellow in here suggested that i disconnect some devices from my computer that may not be working. i have been having problems with my speakers, so i disconnected them to no avail, although i think rebooting may be the next step on that path
#1173 [11:06] <tikker> try rebooting and try playing again
#1174 [11:06] <Guest_> ok. brb
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#1176 [11:12] <Guest__> i'm back. same error
#1177 [11:13] <tikker> wb, and weird
#1178 [11:13] <Guest__> indeed
#1179 [11:13] <tikker> well it has to do something with something you have plugged in
#1180 [11:13] <Guest__> well, lemme start unplugging things
#1181 [11:13] <tikker> but
#1182 [11:14] <tikker> you want to test it before you buy it right?
#1183 [11:14] <tikker> guest?
#1184 [11:14] <Guest__> exactly
#1185 [11:15] <tikker> well
#1186 [11:15] <tikker> PC Gamer has released a demo
#1187 [11:15] <tikker> you can play 5 ingame days
#1188 [11:15] <tikker> http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/
#1189 [11:16] <tikker> it's the full minecraft game, but it locks down after 90 minutes
#1190 [11:16] <tikker> well the world then
#1191 [11:16] <tikker> but you can start over as many times as you want
#1192 [11:17] <tikker> so you can play a few worlds to see if it is for you, and if you like it, buy it
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#1194 [11:18] <NinjaKirby> Was that exclusively designed for PC Gamer, to release through them?
#1195 [11:18] <zolartuc> can someone please ADD cacti to my world
#1196 [11:19] <zolartuc> ???
#1197 [11:19] <tikker> @NinjaKirby the cows were specially added
#1198 [11:19] <tikker> @zolartuc just find a desert
#1199 [11:20] <zolartuc> i cant there isnt any on my world
#1200 [11:20] <zolartuc> i think
#1201 [11:20] <NinjaKirby> Zolar; I don't mind adding it for you if you're somehow stuck for it generating
#1202 [11:20] <zolartuc> yes please
#1203 [11:21] <NinjaKirby> If you zip it into an Archive and either email it to me, or up it to like Mediafire or something.
#1204 [11:21] <zolartuc> is this for the xbox
#1205 [11:22] <NinjaKirby> ... I did kinda of suspect this might be the issue... we had a guy the other day who had no Reeds spawn on his Xbox map, is this similar?
#1206 [11:22] <NinjaKirby> If so, I won't be able to MCEdit it, I guess.
#1207 [11:22] <zolartuc> yeah i mean theres loads of sand and desert plains but no cacti
#1208 [11:22] <tikker> isn't that one of the 'bugs' of the X360 edition?
#1209 [11:23] <zolartuc> i dont know
#1210 [11:24] <tikker> @Guest did it work?
#1211 [11:25] <zolartuc> help
#1212 [11:25] <tikker> well there's none we can do for you i'm afraid :/
#1213 [11:25] <zolartuc> oh ok
#1214 [11:27] <zolartuc> thanks anyways
#1215 [11:32] <Guest__> sorry, i was away on urget business, but thank you, tikker. i believe i'll try that
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#1219 [11:42] <JB> i need help fixing the advanced opengl bad video card driver bug
#1220 [11:43] <Calinou> disable advanced opengl - your graphics card doesn't support it
#1221 [11:43] <JB> how
#1222 [11:43] <Calinou> also you might update your graphics card drivers - NOT through windows update
#1223 [11:43] <Calinou> did you enable advanced opengl?
#1224 [11:43] <JB> no
#1225 [11:44] <Calinou> so, what does this have to do with advanced opengl?
#1226 [11:44] <tikker> it believe it's a crahs if the videocard(drivers) can't handle minecraft
#1227 [11:44] <tikker> *crash
#1228 [11:44] <JB> in the error it says something about advanced opengl
#1229 [11:45] <tikker> based on it saying: bad video card driver, i would say updating the drivers
#1230 [11:45] <JB> my drivers are up to date
#1231 [11:46] <tikker> what platform are you on
#1232 [11:46] <JB> what you mean
#1233 [11:46] <tikker> windows/mac/linux
#1234 [11:46] <JB> windows 7 ultimate
#1235 [11:48] <tikker> does it say ADVANCED OpenGL Mode or ACCELERATED OpenGL Mode
#1236 [11:49] <Calinou> more like accelerated
#1237 [11:49] <Calinou> also, hi hacker
#1238 [11:49] <Calinou> JB, did you use windows update to update video drivers? don't.
#1239 [11:49] <Calinou> use the manufacturer's website
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#1241 [11:49] <Calinou> what is the brand of your graphics card? AMD, intel or nvidia?
#1242 [11:49] <JB> no i went into the device driver and updated
#1243 [11:49] <tikker> does it look like this: (wall of text coming)
#1244 [11:50] <JB> i have a radeon x1300 / x1550
#1245 [11:50] <tikker> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 9/20/10 12:16 PM Minecraft: Minecraft Alpha v1.1.2 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_18, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Micros
#1246 [11:50] <JB> yep thats it
#1247 [11:50] <clarjon1> tikker: Use http://www.pastebin.com/ please
#1248 [11:50] <whiskeybent_texan> I discovered a skeleton spawner in a dungeon, went to build a lava blade item grinder and since mobs can swim upstream i can't seem to force them down to the lava blade effectively; solutions?
#1249 [11:50] <clarjon1> whiskeybent_texan: go stand near the blade so they swim towards you.
#1250 [11:50] <tikker> im sorry
#1251 [11:50] <tikker> i forgot about it
#1252 [11:51] <tikker> i'll use it from now
#1253 [11:51] <whiskeybent_texan> i was actually working out a piston system where when a couple spawn, one will step on the pressure plate and push one of his 'buddies' to his death
#1254 [11:51] <whiskeybent_texan> it was kind of funny when it worked
#1255 [11:51] <JB> whats up with the pastebin
#1256 [11:52] <tikker> a site to paste
#1257 [11:52] <JB> paste what
#1258 [11:52] <tikker> pieces of text etc
#1259 [11:52] <tikker> in order to avoid spamming the screen with large walls of text
#1260 [11:52] <JB> o ok
#1261 [11:52] <tikker> like i just did accidentally
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#1263 [11:52] <JB> lol
#1264 [11:53] <JB> but i have watched about 30 youtube videos and did some of the stuff that they did to fix the bug and still didnt work
#1265 [11:53] <JB> i still cant play minecraft
#1266 [11:53] <JB> brb
#1267 [11:54] <tikker> i have to go bye
#1268 [11:54] <JB> later
#1269 [11:54] <JB> does anyone know what i can do... i cant even play it in the browser
#1270 [11:54] <JB> does anyone know what i can do... i cant even play it in the browser
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#1275 [11:59] <g> let me guess
#1276 [11:59] <g> auth server is down again
#1277 [11:59] <JB> HELP
#1278 [12:00] <lutzee> !login
#1279 [12:00] <g> well, the technic launcher can't log in
#1280 [12:00] <g> hmm
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#1282 [12:01] <lutzee> meh servers it right
#1283 [12:01] <JB> how do i fix the opengl problem
#1284 [12:01] * g slaps lutzee around a bit with a large ><(((°>.
#1284 [12:01] <lutzee> ??> JB gpu/AMD
#1285 [12:01] <VoxelHead> JB: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1286 [12:01] <JB> all of my drivers are up to date
#1287 [12:02] <lutzee> windows may report they are
#1288 [12:02] <lutzee> but chances are they aren't
#1289 [12:03] <JB> ill try it
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#1291 [12:11] <Guest> setting up a small, personal server when connecting via my external ip i get connection refused:connect
#1292 [12:11] <lutzee> you cannot connect back to your external IP
#1293 [12:12] <Guest> but everyone else should be able to? both tcp and udp ports are open now
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#1295 [12:12] <lutzee> yes,
#1296 [12:12] <lutzee> !check 76.30.191.30
#1297 [12:12] <lutzee> Seems to be fine :)
#1298 [12:12] <Gronuth> good morning minecraftians =P i was wondering if anyone knows how to set the visibility distance underwater
#1299 [12:13] <Necrodoom> with vanilla, cant
#1300 [12:13] <lutzee> Gronuth, not without mods, optifine can make water clearer
#1301 [12:13] <Guest> hmmmm ty :D
#1302 [12:13] <Guest> was having trouble only bc my router page was so cruddy :p
#1303 [12:13] <Gronuth> optifine pretty much needs magic laucnher from what i can tell and thats giving me all sorts of trouble
#1304 [12:14] <Gronuth> im trying to load up 32 mods and it doesnt like them, mcpatcher is working out a lot better as to what the actually incompatabilities are between them so i can more easily get them to work together...
#1305 [12:14] <lutzee> Gronuth, nope you dont need it
#1306 [12:14] <Gronuth> as for the crystalclearwater mod the site with that mod has gone down so i cant get it
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#1308 [12:15] <Zarosh> o/
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#1310 [12:15] <Zarosh> I was wondering if I could pick some brains on hostings and plugins.
#1311 [12:15] <Zarosh> ?
#1312 [12:17] <Zarosh> Is anyone Active?
#1313 [12:17] <Necrodoom> Zarosh: try #bukkit
#1314 [12:18] <Gronuth> or #bukkitdev
#1315 [12:18] <Zarosh> thanks
#1316 [12:19] <Necrodoom> bukkitdev is for coding plugins
#1317 [12:20] <Calinou> no
#1318 [12:20] <Calinou> bukkitdev is about bukkitdev, no?
#1319 [12:20] <Calinou> or...?
#1320 [12:20] <superkabii> plugin development
#1321 [12:21] <superkabii> #bukkitdev existed a long time before dev.bukkit existed
#1322 [12:26] <langkid1> Is it still possible to get Minecraft to try to make a huge TGA screenshot?
#1323 [12:26] * Necrodoom watches as around 5 people crash there clients
#1323 [12:27] <Gronuth> will a panaramic screenshot work?
#1324 [12:27] <g> their*
#1325 [12:27] <Gronuth> !!!
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#1327 [12:33] <IcyMountains> !check
#1328 [12:33] <IcyMountains> Hmmm
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#1330 [12:35] <obi_wan> Using Microsoft. Just purchased for my son. Every time I go to update the game, it dies and reads "Null"
#1331 [12:37] <IcyMountains> !check
#1332 [12:37] <Gronuth> ok so when i load optifine all of my vanilla mobs are completely randomizing their textures as if they are loading the terrain file instead of their respective creature file.. parts are often either missing or funky textures. and my left arm is missing!!!
#1333 [12:37] <Dan> IcyMountains, are you trying to host from your own computer?
#1334 [12:38] <IcyMountains> Yes
#1335 [12:38] <Dan> IcyMountains, and your ISP is?
#1336 [12:38] <Gronuth> all of the mo creature mobs are rendered perfectly fine and all of the terrain is perfect as well... anyone have ideas?
#1337 [12:38] <IcyMountains> Virgin media super hub provided by netgear
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#1339 [12:39] <Gronuth> obi_wan so it already installed the game but wont update it?
#1340 [12:39] <Dan> IcyMountains, yea you have firewall blocking it and also it can just be that your ISP is stopping that port
#1341 [12:39] <IcyMountains> It did work before
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#1344 [12:43] <pchard> hm
#1345 [12:43] <pchard> Dan, I have helped IcyMountains to setup her new minecraft server using McMyAdmin.
#1346 [12:43] <pchard> May that be the problem?
#1347 [12:44] <Dan> yea it can be
#1348 [12:45] <pchard> I don't really see why though, but it may be because it's the free edition.. I have enterprise.
#1349 [12:45] <Calinou> lolMCMA
#1350 [12:45] <Dan> really you shouldnt use anything to start it up just start it up by itself
#1351 [12:45] <pchard> What do you mean ?
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#1353 [12:46] <IcyMountains> I think he means no more GUI interfaces
#1354 [12:46] <pchard> Possibly.
#1355 [12:48] <Gronuth> create a text file and paste "java -Xms512M -Xmx1G -jar minecraft_server.jar" in it, then save file as startserver.bat and double click it
#1356 [12:48] <Gronuth> so long as you downloaded the server files from minecraft
#1357 [12:48] <IcyMountains> But
#1358 [12:49] <IcyMountains> That means we can't use McMyAdmin
#1359 [12:49] <Gronuth> ive only set up a personal server but it worked fine for me.... why do you wish to use mcmyadmin?
#1360 [12:52] <Dan> i have a live server that doesnt need mcmyadmin at all and it works just fine
#1361 [12:54] <Gronuth> so does anyone know why my mobs would be loading the wrong textures using optifine?
#1362 [12:55] <Calinou> Gronuth, different Xms and Xmx = bad
#1363 [12:55] <Gronuth> ?
#1364 [12:55] <Calinou> about the startserver.bat
#1365 [12:55] <Calinou> also, what texture pack?
#1366 [12:55] <Gronuth> default
#1367 [12:55] <Calinou> using multicore edition of optifine?
#1368 [12:56] <Calinou> use standard
#1369 [12:56] <Gronuth> oh i pulled pasted that line from the walkthrough i used to set up a server and it didnt bug mine
#1370 [12:56] <Gronuth> yes
#1371 [12:56] <Gronuth> multicore+AA
#1372 [12:56] <Gronuth> am i gonna have to use the smooth version?
#1373 [12:57] <Gronuth> im using wedge worldgen for double generation height so i needed more loading power and it said multicore would help load faster
#1374 [13:00] <obi_wan> Sorry, was away. It is installed but will not complete update. Message reads: fatal error occurred (4): null.
#1375 [13:00] <obi_wan> Firewall was turned off, but still no update.
#1376 [13:00] <Calinou> ^ use standard
#1377 [13:01] <Calinou> multicore sucks anyway
#1378 [13:01] <Calinou> obi_wan, do you use any antivirus? and what antivirus?
#1379 [13:01] <obi_wan> Norton
#1380 [13:01] <Calinou> disable it temporarily, oh and also try using this launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1381 [13:01] <Calinou> (it might work better; put on desktop and double click)
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#1383 [13:02] <obi_wan> Ok. Will try that. thx
#1384 [13:06] <obi_wan> Did not work. This is annoying; just paid for this.
#1385 [13:07] <computerdude5000> nortan is giving u trouble with minecraft downloading? never heard of that and i use nortan
#1386 [13:12] <lutzee> Er norton? well yes it's norton
#1387 [13:12] <lutzee> get rid of it
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#1389 [13:21] <NullSchritt> Hey, my servers on mcnet keep registering the IP as 127.0.0.1 so no one can connect, even though WOM direct is working fine, is there anyway to fix this?
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#1391 [13:23] <Corey> Im having some trouble with lag
#1392 [13:23] <Corey> can anyone help?
#1393 [13:23] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#1394 [13:23] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1395 [13:23] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1396 [13:23] <Calinou> obi_wan, do what VoxelHead says
#1397 [13:23] <Calinou> NullSchritt, WOM: sucks
#1398 [13:23] <Calinou> -_-
#1399 [13:24] <Corey> When I play the game after a few min the game lags, Runs fine for a few then starts taking up huge amounts of RAM
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#1401 [13:24] <Corey> 2.8Ghz Athlon 6GB RAN
#1402 [13:24] <whiskeybent_texan> they're swimming in my lava blade; my skeletons that is. i'm losing all but probably 10% of the drops
#1403 [13:25] <Corey> So I don't know why its lagging
#1404 [13:25] <Corey> But it lags the entire computer
#1405 [13:25] <whiskeybent_texan> they wont just fall through it they swim in it and burn up the arrows
#1406 [13:26] <NullSchritt> Calinou, wel right now it;s the only thing not messing up my server info, so right now mc.net sucks.
#1407 [13:27] <NullSchritt> Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
#1408 [13:27] <Calinou> use java 6, too, not 7
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#1411 [13:44] <NullSchritt> Hey, my servers on mcnet keep registering the IP as 127.0.0.1 so no one can connect, even though WOM direct is working fine, is there anyway to fix this?
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#1413 [13:46] <TheomaxFr> this is your local Ip, your IP is http://www.mon-ip.com/
#1414 [13:50] <NullSchritt> I know what my local ip is.
#1415 [13:51] <NullSchritt> That's not at all what I asked, I Clearly know this is my local ip, and I know my external ip if I am hosting a server, yeah, or rather two. I said my problem is mc.net is putting this as my public ip, not my public one, so no one can connect via mc.net
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#1419 [13:58] <NullSchritt_> Can anyone tell me how to fix mc.net registering my ip as 127.0.0.1 rather than my external ip?
#1420 [13:58] <g> "registering"?
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#1425 [14:03] <shane1395> can someone help me with a bug on minecraft?
#1426 [14:04] <NullSchritt_> no aparently out of the like 5o people here no one knows how to help anyone
#1427 [14:04] <shane1395> i can't click and drag items in my invetory?
#1428 [14:04] <NullSchritt_> some help channel
#1429 [14:04] <shane1395> ?
#1430 [14:04] <shane1395> anyone no?
#1431 [14:05] <shane1395> ...
#1432 [14:05] <NullSchritt_> Told you.
#1433 [14:06] <shane1395> u have any idea?
#1434 [14:06] <NullSchritt_> No, I only run retail servers.
#1435 [14:06] <NullSchritt_> Sorry.
#1436 [14:06] <NullSchritt_> I mean
#1437 [14:06] <NullSchritt_> clasic, not retail, hah
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#1439 [14:07] <shane1395> wow... this is no help at all...
#1440 [14:08] <Scott> Given that you just joined 4 minutes ago, I think you should be more patient and realize that it's a Sunday and a lot of us are doing things related to family.
#1441 [14:08] <mrgummage> What's the problem?
#1442 [14:08] <shane1395> i cant click and drag items in my invetory
#1443 [14:09] <mrgummage> What system are you playing on?
#1444 [14:09] <shane1395> not sure but i bought the game
#1445 [14:09] <Scott> Better yet, what version?
#1446 [14:10] <shane1395> its on computer and ill check
#1447 [14:10] <NullSchritt_> Yes, well I joined at least 15 minutes with not even one response actually related to my question, not a bit of info on it even.
#1448 [14:10] <NullSchritt_> I got one person who took the time to tell me on an unrelate dnot they think wom sucks.
#1449 [14:10] <shane1395> 1.2.5
#1450 [14:10] <Scott> Actually not you joined 13 minutes ago.
#1451 [14:10] <NullSchritt_> actually I Got disconnected
#1452 [14:10] <Scott> s/not/no
#1453 [14:10] <NullSchritt_> and had to recconnect
#1454 [14:10] <shane1395> that good or bad?
#1455 [14:11] <NullSchritt_> so it's been like 15
#1456 [14:11] <mrgummage> What happens when you try to drag things in the inventory?
#1457 [14:11] <shane1395> nothing it wont let me
#1458 [14:11] <Scott> Can you see use your cursor at all in-game?
#1459 [14:11] <superkabii> minecraft.net doesn't "register" IPs, so your question doesn't even make sense
#1460 [14:11] <shane1395> i can see the cursor
#1461 [14:12] <NullSchritt_> wow...... my question doesnt make any sense
#1462 [14:12] <superkabii> nope.
#1463 [14:12] <Scott> NullSchritt_: I don't even know what your question is if you don't say it again.
#1464 [14:12] <NullSchritt_> Can anyone tell me how to fix mc.net registering my ip as 127.0.0.1 rather than my external ip?
#1465 [14:12] <NullSchritt_> I host two servers.
#1466 [14:13] <shane1395> when i click an item im using it goes back in the invetory and when i have 1 open slot i click on an item and it fills it but i cant drag anything to create stufff
#1467 [14:13] <NullSchritt_> In simple terms, mc.net has the ip in the webapp for my server set to host="127.0.0.1" not my external ip, so no one can connect via the website, only wom.
#1468 [14:13] <superkabii> oh, you're talking about a classic server, you didn't state that in the original question
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#1470 [14:13] <NullSchritt_> >.> yes
#1471 [14:14] <Guest__> i went to try to buy the game, but the screen where i put my info in is all scrambled. any suggestions?
#1472 [14:15] <shane1395> so can anyone answer my question......
#1473 [14:15] <mrgummage> I dunno what's happening there I'm afraid shane1395. :(
#1474 [14:15] <shane1395> great....
#1475 [14:16] <shane1395> should i delete the minecraft app and redownload?
#1476 [14:16] <NullSchritt_> Does anyone know what could be causing my problem?
#1477 [14:17] <Scott> NullSchritt_: check your config. is the IP set to 127.0.0.1 there?
#1478 [14:17] <NullSchritt_> My config files are 800craft/mcforge, they automatically use my external ip
#1479 [14:17] <NullSchritt_> and wom still works, so my server software knows my correct external ip
#1480 [14:18] <shane1395> nvm i guess it was a glitch it works now
#1481 [14:18] <Scott> You should talk to mcforge/800craft then
#1482 [14:18] <Scott> We do not officially support classic anymore here anyways and you're using a third party software.
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#1497 [14:49] <viveleroi> if I make a multiplayer minecraft server (vanilla), can I make it hardcore? if so, what happens when players die? the world can't be deleted
#1498 [14:55] <Devin> viveleroi, they can't do anything
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#1500 [14:55] <viveleroi> what do you mean
#1501 [14:56] <Devin> Can't do anything, just what I said. No building, fighting, etc etc.
#1502 [14:56] <viveleroi> so they can just walk around?
#1503 [14:56] <Devin> I believe so.
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#1507 [15:00] <Calinou> viveleroi, only in snapshots, not 1.2.5
#1508 [15:00] <Calinou> however, some bukkit plugins add hardcore mode to multiplayer
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#1510 [15:01] <viveleroi> ya i want the snapshots so it works out
#1511 [15:01] <viveleroi> thank you
#1512 [15:02] <Calinou> snapshots don't work with stable clients
#1513 [15:02] <Calinou> it's almost pointless for public/semi-public servers
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#1515 [15:03] <Devin> at
#1516 [15:03] <Devin> oop
#1517 [15:04] <fox_> Hi i wanted to start modding so i followed all of the tutorial videos and tutorial sites to get the set up and now when i try to run minecraft in eclipse i get an errror it looks like this:
#1518 [15:04] <viveleroi> so with the latest snapshot, you're banned on death in hardcore. is there a way to reset that though after a while? so a player can rejoin
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#1520 [15:06] <fox_> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Start Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Start at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) Exception in
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#1522 [15:08] <viveleroi> so if you die in hardcore vanilla server, you're banned in the latest snapshot. I need to find a way to make that temporary - for like a week. I could just manually pardon someone but that doesn't work. deleting their .dat doesn't either. what else could I do
#1523 [15:12] <fox_> am i doing this right?
#1524 [15:12] <fox_> this chat
#1525 [15:12] <fox_> this chat
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#1528 [15:14] <Calinou> fox_, yes
#1529 [15:14] <fox_> ok thx
#1530 [15:14] <Calinou> try starting the game with this instead: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1531 [15:14] <Calinou> also if you use AVG or avira, disable the "link scanner" module
#1532 [15:15] <fox_> ok thx ill try that
#1533 [15:15] <Godiva> im playing survival mode i lost my house far over there with freiken iron ingots how do i find it with no map
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#1536 [15:21] <fox_> ok so basicly replace the minecraft.jar file currently in the "jars" file in my mcp65 file with the one you gave me right?
#1537 [15:22] <fox_> i need to go ill ask later
#1538 [15:22] <fox_> late for something
#1539 [15:23] <Calinou> -____________-
#1540 [15:24] <Calinou> Godiva, you should've written the coordinates of your house... too late, now. :/
#1541 [15:24] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Navigation
#1542 [15:24] <Calinou> this might help
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#1544 [15:36] <jeffro> hello
#1545 [15:42] <jeffro> is anyone there?
#1546 [15:42] <Calinou> yes
#1547 [15:42] <Calinou> don't ask to ask, we don't bite.
#1548 [15:42] <Scott> I will bite but I've been vaccinated for rabies.
#1549 [15:42] <Scott> Don't worry. :>
#1550 [15:43] <jeffro> ok so i log into minecraft and click " in brower" than nothing happens?
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#1552 [15:44] <jeffro> click "In Browser" i mean
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#1554 [15:46] <Calinou> do you have java installed?
#1555 [15:46] <Calinou> also, try the downloaded version - it often works better
#1556 [15:46] <jeffro> i have installed Java
#1557 [15:46] <reedlepee> need help with minecraft launcher (not downloaded) plz
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#1559 [15:49] <reedlepee> hello?
#1560 [15:49] <reedlepee> hello?
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#1563 [15:52] <jeffro> are you still there?
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#1566 [15:54] <mom> we are not able to play on the multi player due to not being able to connect to server. what should i do?
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#1569 [16:01] <Milbo> Hey there. Just bought the game, went to DL it from minectaft.net and when I run it I get one of 2 things. One is a Java Runtime Environment issue. I uninstalled and reinstalled Java, still have the issue. The other is is that the launcher starts but cant connect to the Minecraft server. Any ideas?
#1570 [16:03] <Calinou> hi :) try starting the game with this instead: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1571 [16:03] <Calinou> put on the desktop and run it. also, disable any firewalls you have, and if you use AVG or avira, disable the link scanner module.
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#1573 [16:05] <Milbo> Still getting the JRE issue.
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#1575 [16:06] <Wug> what does it say
#1576 [16:06] <PaladinPete> test
#1577 [16:07] <PaladinPete> wow ok im confused :(
#1578 [16:07] <PaladinPete> i registered and just identified my nick
#1579 [16:07] <PaladinPete> but i still cant seem to chat in #minecraft
#1580 [16:07] <Milbo> Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine (second line) Error: A fatal exception has ocured. Program will exit.
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#1582 [16:08] <_xbigbossx_> am i the only one whose minecraft crashed?
#1583 [16:09] <Monkjt5> I need help installing mods, i used to be able to, but then winrar stopped working because my trial ran out and it wont let me use it anymore even though i have seen others use it even when the trial runs out and now it wont work please help! :(
#1584 [16:09] <Wug> :tv > Milbo
#1585 [16:09] <WugBot> Milbo: (tv) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics. Download and run teamviewer from here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1586 [16:09] <WugBot> Milbo: (tv) Once teamviewer has been downloaded, run it (you do not have to install it) and PM the person who asked you to get it your teamviewer ID and password, shown in the teamviewer window. Send the private message with /msg user ID: xxx yyy zzz pass: wwww
#1587 [16:10] <Wug> -NickServ- PaladinPete has NOT COMPLETED registration verification
#1588 [16:10] <PaladinPete> Monkjt5, use 7zip
#1589 [16:10] <PaladinPete> its free and works just the same prolly
#1590 [16:10] <Wug> _xbigbossx_: lol no
#1591 [16:10] <Monkjt5> ive tried that and it like doesn't let me drag
#1592 [16:10] <Monkjt5> so is teamviewer a good thing to use?
#1593 [16:10] <PaladinPete> then how was i able to install mods using 7zip and two open archives? :P
#1594 [16:11] <Monkjt5> i know that 7zip works but somethings wrong with mine
#1595 [16:11] <Wug> reinstall it?
#1596 [16:11] <PaladinPete> so uninstall and reinstall
#1597 [16:11] <PaladinPete> and wow derp moment :P
#1598 [16:11] * PaladinPete checks his email to finish his nickserv registration lol!
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#1600 [16:12] <Monkjt5> i need someone to like use team viewer and ive uninstalled 7zip like a million times (made sure it was 64bit) and i have deleated my minecraft and reinstalled it, this mod problem for me has been bothering me for SO long and i just really want to use mods again :(
#1601 [16:12] <PaladinPete> ok how about now?
#1602 [16:12] <PaladinPete> i think im good
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#1605 [16:13] <WoM-Guest> i got a question. i have 3 minecraft.jar files in bin , minecraft, minecraft-1.1 and 1.2.5 what one do i add the mods to ?
#1606 [16:13] <Wug> Monkjt5: this channel doesnt help with mods. not officially anyway. if we're bored and there is low traffic we might. ask in #risucraft
#1607 [16:14] <Wug> WoM-Guest: the launcher loads minecraft,jar
#1608 [16:14] <Monkjt5> wait, use "#risucraft" for mod suport?
#1609 [16:14] <WoM-Guest> thank you
#1610 [16:14] <Wug> theyll hate me fore referring you there
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#1612 [16:14] <Monkjt5> y?
#1613 [16:14] <Wug> since you dont have a modding question
#1614 [16:15] <Monkjt5> i do tho
#1615 [16:15] <Wug> you have a general software question
#1616 [16:15] <Monkjt5> oh ok
#1617 [16:15] <Monkjt5> well i just need help!
#1618 [16:15] <PMental> Just got here, what was the problem?
#1619 [16:15] <Wug> have you tried googling
#1620 [16:15] <_xbigbossx_> ok thx it work
#1621 [16:15] <Monkjt5> yes
#1622 [16:16] <Wug> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/840553-7zip-dragging-and-dropping/
#1623 [16:17] <PMental> Problems extracting files?
#1624 [16:17] <Wug> Monkjt5: you didnt google very hard did you
#1625 [16:17] <Wug> (that was the second result for "7zip drag and drop")
#1626 [16:17] <Monkjt5> probably not then i gues
#1627 [16:17] <Monkjt5> haha
#1628 [16:17] <Monkjt5> i didn't look up drag and drop tho
#1629 [16:17] <Monkjt5> here is my story
#1630 [16:17] <Monkjt5> ok
#1631 [16:18] <PMental> Is @Mollstam actually @Mollstam and is he often around?
#1632 [16:18] <Wug> he is the real mollstam. he isnt around often
#1633 [16:18] <Milbo> ok
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#1635 [16:19] <PMental> Ok, thanks.
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#1637 [16:20] <VenomGaming12> im having trouble making an account. it says my email is already in use but inever made an account. what should i do?
#1638 [16:20] <Monkjt5> so i find a mod (ive installed mods b4) and i download modloader and all that stuff, go into my minecraft.jar, and right click it and go to open w/ winrar and it opens, but there is like only folders in it and no files which ik there is supposed to be files, and when i try to open the minecraft.jar, it makes that wierd noise, and says something along the lines of " corrupt minecraft.jar" or something like that
#1639 [16:21] <VenomGaming12> HELP
#1640 [16:21] <FoxehFox> Hey, for some reason my text in the server list and SMP chat has turned black and is hardly readable... Any ideas?
#1641 [16:23] <PMental> VenomGaming12: Have you tried using the "forgot password" system?
#1642 [16:24] <PMental> If the mail address is somehow in there, it should mail you instructions for resetting the password. No one else should be using your address anyway so there's no harm in seeing what it says...
#1643 [16:25] <Monkjt5> so i should be using 64bit if i have a 64bit right? even though it's not .exe but rather .msi?
#1644 [16:25] <VenomGaming12> i never made an acount thou
#1645 [16:26] <VenomGaming12> i get it
#1646 [16:27] <PMental> Monk: If you're talking about 7zip, yeah, use the 64-bit one. MSI stands for "Microsoft Installer" and it will install like any other program.
#1647 [16:27] <Wug> VenomGaming12: try to recover your password
#1648 [16:27] <Monkjt5> ok thanks!
#1649 [16:27] <Wug> best case scenario, you can steal the account of the dick who signed up for one with your email
#1650 [16:28] <VenomGaming12> thx
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#1652 [16:29] <WoM-Guest> what was the mod channel?
#1653 [16:29] <Monkjt5> now when i'm in my bin folder, do i go to the minecraft-1.2.5? and if so do i right click and then what
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#1655 [16:30] <Monkjt5> do i extract to minecraft 1.2.5 or do i "open archive"?
#1656 [16:31] <PMental_> I just use Magic Launcher for mods, so I've got no idea, sorry.
#1657 [16:31] <Monkjt5> what is magic launcher?
#1658 [16:31] <PMental> A launcher that doesn't require messing with the minecraft files for the most part...
#1659 [16:31] <Monkjt5> REALLY!
#1660 [16:31] <PMental> Search for it in minecraftforums.net and you'll find it.
#1661 [16:32] <Monkjt5> can i get clay soldiers and aether mod?
#1662 [16:32] <PMental> Here it is: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939149-launcher-magic-launcher-098-mods-options-news/
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#1664 [16:32] <Monkjt5> thanks!
#1665 [16:32] <PMental> No idea, but it has worked great for me. I also use it to switch between snapshots and the official version.
#1666 [16:33] <Monkjt5> wow thanks like seriously. im going to check it out.
#1667 [16:34] <PMental> No problem!
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#1672 [16:41] <WoM-Guest> hey for some reason i cant join #risucraft anyone willing to help with a mod problem?
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#1679 [17:15] <Milbo> How do you split inventory items for crafting?
#1680 [17:16] <Wug> right click a stack in the inventort will pick up half, right click while holding something drops one
#1681 [17:16] <johny> i bought the game but it says it needs an hour to update my account its been more then an hour what do i do?
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#1683 [17:17] <j0ffe> tjao i wounder if someone could tell what area creepers and skeletons need to spawn.
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#1685 [17:21] <Calinou> j0ffe, anywhere in darkness (light level below 7) and in moon light
#1686 [17:21] <Calinou> skeletons and zombies burn at sunlight.
#1687 [17:22] <Calinou> spiders are neutral at sunlight, they just fight back if attacked.
#1688 [17:22] <Calinou> creepers are always hostile
#1689 [17:22] <PMental> J0ffe: They also need a solid block to spawn on and two airblocks above. So basically a 2 high area with a solid block under.
#1690 [17:22] <Calinou> mobs do not spawn on glass, air, liquids, slabs...
#1691 [17:23] <j0ffe> not that i ment i meen area i know that spiders spawns in a area on 3x3 and i wounder if it is the same on creepers and skeleton or if they only need like 2x2 or somthing like that, would help my trap very much
#1692 [17:23] <PMental> Like I said, a solid block below and 2 airspaces for them to fit in basically...
#1693 [17:23] <PMental> 2x1, with solid block underneath.
#1694 [17:23] <j0ffe> 2 the hight then?
#1695 [17:24] <Calinou> spiders require a 3x3x2 space though
#1696 [17:24] <PMental> Yep.
#1697 [17:24] <Calinou> 2 being the height
#1698 [17:24] <j0ffe> tnx
#1699 [17:24] <Calinou> spiders can climb walls, beware
#1700 [17:24] <j0ffe> i know that :P
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#1704 [17:35] <Milbo> WTH is a green thing in the day that just annialiated me?
#1705 [17:38] <Moose> did it hiss at you?
#1706 [17:38] <Moose> did it look rather sad?
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#1709 [17:38] <Moose> was it armless?
#1710 [17:39] <NinjaKirby> Charades up in dis
#1711 [17:39] <Koreck> Hello, I can't start the actual game of MineCraft at all. It says "Updating Minecraft", the client turns black, and then it closes. Any advice?
#1712 [17:39] <Milbo> Not sure. didnt have volume on
#1713 [17:40] <Milbo> Looks like an alien
#1714 [17:40] <Boreeas> Welcome to Minecraft, where everything is out to get you
#1715 [17:40] <Milbo> lol
#1716 [17:40] <Boreeas> That thing is called a creeper, and explodes when you get too close
#1717 [17:41] <CrackedIce> My minecraft gets stuck on done loading.
#1718 [17:41] <Boreeas> Koreck: Is there a file called hs_err_pid in the same folder as your launcher?
#1719 [17:41] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: Do you use AVG?
#1720 [17:41] <CrackedIce> Yes
#1721 [17:41] <Milbo> WTH do you do to avoid it?
#1722 [17:41] <Boreeas> Turn it off, it's known to block Minecraft. Remember to turn it back on later.
#1723 [17:41] <Koreck> The hs_err_pid appears on my Desktop, but I don't know what it is. =/
#1724 [17:42] <Moose> [14:39] <Milbo> Not sure. didnt have volume on
#1725 [17:42] <Moose> [14:40] <Milbo> Looks like an alien
#1726 [17:42] <Moose> was it armless?
#1727 [17:42] <Moose> did it have a sad face?
#1728 [17:42] <Milbo> Yeah moose
#1729 [17:42] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: You may be able to add an exception for Java, but I'm not sure
#1730 [17:42] <Moose> Did it explode?
#1731 [17:42] <Boreeas> Milbo: Yup, that's a creeper
#1732 [17:42] <Moose> ^
#1733 [17:42] <Boreeas> Get it before it gets you
#1734 [17:42] <Moose> or run like hell.
#1735 [17:42] <Milbo> with?
#1736 [17:42] <CrackedIce> what java do i allow an execption for?
#1737 [17:42] <Moose> With a powerful item
#1738 [17:43] <Moose> or you could use a bow and arrow to kill it
#1739 [17:43] <Koreck> Also, my MineCraft used to work fine, then sometimes would do this strange thing, then sometimes work, but now it doesn't work at all.
#1740 [17:43] <Boreeas> Koreck: Pastebin it: http://pastebin.com
#1741 [17:43] <Milbo> Thanks
#1742 [17:43] <Boreeas> Koreck: The hs_err_pid that is
#1743 [17:43] <Boreeas> It's just a plain text file
#1744 [17:43] <Moose> Boreeas: http://imgur.com/jacoj
#1745 [17:43] <Moose> Milbo: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Creeper
#1746 [17:43] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: Do you have more than one version of java installed?
#1747 [17:43] <Boreeas> Moose: Haha
#1748 [17:44] <CrackedIce> No, but there was java, javaw and javaws
#1749 [17:44] <CrackedIce> I just added them all
#1750 [17:44] <Boreeas> Yeah, they are all part of java
#1751 [17:44] <Boreeas> Does it work now?
#1752 [17:44] <Moose> CrackedIce: what OS are you running?
#1753 [17:44] <CrackedIce> Windoews 7
#1754 [17:44] <CrackedIce> Windows*
#1755 [17:44] <Koreck> http://pastebin.com/dbLpR6Kd
#1756 [17:45] <Boreeas> Koreck: Looks like a video card error
#1757 [17:45] <Boreeas> ??> Koreck win/dxdiag
#1758 [17:45] <VoxelHead> Koreck: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1759 [17:45] <VoxelHead> Koreck: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1760 [17:46] <Koreck> Lots of directions. One moment please
#1761 [17:46] <CrackedIce> Disabling AVG did not work.
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#1763 [17:47] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: Press the windows key + r
#1764 [17:47] <CrackedIce> ok
#1765 [17:47] <Boreeas> In the box that comes up, enter 'cmd' and hit enter
#1766 [17:47] <CrackedIce> now what
#1767 [17:48] <Koreck> http://pastebin.com/2wSc0Pp3
#1768 [17:48] <Boreeas> A console should come up. Enter 'java -version'
#1769 [17:48] <Boreeas> What output do you get?
#1770 [17:48] <obi_wan> I was having problems with an update bnot loading just after installing minecraft. I was told to copy this link: pastebin.com/ubMYw45g
#1771 [17:49] <CrackedIce> 1.7.0_05
#1772 [17:49] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: Okay, that's the problem
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#1774 [17:50] <obi_wan> Specifically, I just bought this product for son. Running Windows. Installed fine, but then when prompted to update, I am given a fatal error (4)
#1775 [17:50] <CrackedIce> Alright, so what should I do?
#1776 [17:50] <Boreeas> Java 7 prefers IPv6 over IPv4, but minecraft only works with IPv4. You have two options: Either you deinstall java 7 and reinstall java 6, or you write a custom launch script
#1777 [17:50] <Boreeas> obi_wan: Minecraft Classic or the Release version
#1778 [17:50] <Boreeas> Koreck: Hmm, I think Minecraft has problem with the Express Chipset, but I'm not sure :/
#1779 [17:50] <obi_wan> Release version. The one you need to pay 4
#1780 [17:51] <Koreck> Any ideas on what I should do?
#1781 [17:51] <Boreeas> obi_wan: It looks like your video card drivers are outdated
#1782 [17:52] <obi_wan> Thx. Is a video card hardware I need to install into the computer or something I can purchase and download?
#1783 [17:52] <Boreeas> ??> obi_wan gpu/nvidia
#1784 [17:52] <VoxelHead> obi_wan: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1785 [17:52] <Boreeas> obi_wan: You will need the drivers for NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
#1786 [17:54] <Boreeas> Koreck: The only thing I can tell you is to try to update your video drivers, too: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1787 [17:54] <Koreck> Alright, I'll try that.
#1788 [17:55] <CrackedIce> How do I unistall java 7?
#1789 [17:55] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: From the control panel
#1790 [17:55] <Koreck> How do I update my drivers?
#1791 [17:56] <Boreeas> Koreck: It is software you need to install. There should be a download for the Q965/Q963 Express Chipset Family
#1792 [17:56] <Boreeas> (In the intel download center)
#1793 [17:56] <CrackedIce> Does it matter if i have 6 instead of 7?
#1794 [17:57] <obi_wan> VoxelHead: Not seeing those options on the pull down. For GeForce, it goes up to 600 Series. For nForce it is 980a.
#1795 [17:57] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: Java 6 will use IPv4 by default, so yes
#1796 [17:57] <Koreck> I can't find it. :(
#1797 [17:57] <CrackedIce> What's the difference?
#1798 [17:58] <ShaRose> do these people even HAVE ipv6?
#1799 [17:58] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: IPv4 address are address in the form w.x.y.z, where each of these is a number between 0 and 255
#1800 [17:59] <Boreeas> IPv6 address are a new, recently introduced version of the format aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff, where each of these is a number between 0000 and FFFF (I think, not exactly sure how long it is now)
#1801 [17:59] <ShaRose> no, that's correct
#1802 [17:59] <Boreeas> Many computers and companies do not support IPv6 yet, so there are issues with that
#1803 [17:59] <CrackedIce> I've only got java 6.33 and I still can't either connect to minecraft.net on the .exe, and it's still stuck on done loading on the site.
#1804 [18:00] <Boreeas> So 'java -version' gives you what output?
#1805 [18:00] <ShaRose> most COMPUTERS do, ISPs don't always support it (at least for home users) and a lot of sites don't have IPv6 connectability at the moment
#1806 [18:00] <CrackedIce> 1.6.0_033
#1807 [18:01] <CrackedIce> 1.6.0_33**
#1808 [18:01] <Boreeas> Hmm, okay.
#1809 [18:03] <CrackedIce> So, is there anything I can do|?
#1810 [18:03] <Boreeas> Let me think for a moment
#1811 [18:03] <CrackedIce> alright
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#1813 [18:04] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: Okay, please download this file: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1814 [18:05] <Boreeas> It is the official minecraft launcher for other platforms
#1815 [18:05] <Boreeas> Save it to your desktop. The open the console again
#1816 [18:05] <Boreeas> with 'cd C:\Path\to\your\Desktop', go to your desktop
#1817 [18:06] <Boreeas> From there, call 'java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.jar'
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#1819 [18:07] <CrackedIce> The console is windows + R correct?
#1820 [18:07] <Jason> I sent my gift cody to the wrong email, could you please redirect it?
#1821 [18:07] <Jason> code*
#1822 [18:08] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: The console you get by pressing windows + r, then entering 'cmd'
#1823 [18:09] <CrackedIce> It says i cannot find the path
#1824 [18:10] <Koreck> I am working on updating my drivers now.
#1825 [18:10] <Boreeas> CrackedIce: Then you entered the path incorrectly.
#1826 [18:10] <Boreeas> What does it say at the prompt right now?
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#1828 [18:11] <Boreeas> Should be something like 'C:\asd\fgh> '
#1829 [18:12] <CrackedIce> can we start over, I have it on my desktop, now what
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#1831 [18:13] <Jason> I typed in my email wrong for my gift code so it sent it to an email that did not exist. Can someone redirect it please?
#1832 [18:13] <Boreeas> Jason: We can't
#1833 [18:13] <Jason> :(
#1834 [18:13] <Boreeas> Jason: We are not affiliated with Mojan
#1835 [18:13] <Jason> Oh
#1836 [18:13] <Boreeas> Jason: Refer to http://help.mojang.com
#1837 [18:13] <Jason> Ok, thank you.
#1838 [18:16] <Koreck> I can't find the driver updates :(
#1839 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> we can help you find then
#1840 [18:21] <Boreeas> DiskDaemon: Please, take over. I'm too tired to continue this :P
#1841 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> GO take a well-deserved rest
#1842 [18:22] <Boreeas> Thanks
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#1844 [18:23] <RBX_pawtracks_> How can I apply to be a moderator?
#1845 [18:24] <DiskDaemon> RBX_pawtracks_: You cannot. It's higher-ups who ask you to be one instead
#1846 [18:24] <RBX_pawtracks_> Oh
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#1848 [18:25] <RBX_pawtracks_> Misread a mojang devs twitter post
#1849 [18:25] <RBX_pawtracks_> Sorry =p
#1850 [18:25] <RBX_pawtracks_> Are you good at Minecraft troubleshooting? You should sign up to be a forum mod, or FREQUENT the IRC help channel!
#1851 [18:25] <RBX_pawtracks_> Sorry =p
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#1853 [18:26] <lutzee> RBX_pawtracks_, ask in #minecraftforums for the forum mod, all you need to do is frequent here if you want to help, just don't give misleading information
#1854 [18:26] <Alex_> hey my minecraft wont load up anymore, just a black screen after i hit run, anyone know what i did wrong???????????????
#1855 [18:26] <RBX_pawtracks> That was posted by a mojang person...
#1856 [18:26] <RBX_pawtracks> Not misleading.
#1857 [18:26] <RBX_pawtracks> Want link to post?
#1858 [18:26] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: I'm looking for what you need now
#1859 [18:27] <Koreck> Thank you
#1860 [18:27] <RBX_pawtracks> lutzee: https://twitter.com/Marc_IRL/status/215629699819384832
#1861 [18:27] <RBX_pawtracks> Im no lier.
#1862 [18:27] <DiskDaemon> We know the post, Marc was a bit too excited about us and posted without fulling thinking things through
#1863 [18:27] <lutzee> RBX_pawtracks, i know i read the post,
#1864 [18:27] <RBX_pawtracks> Sorry :/
#1865 [18:29] <Alex_> i think i deleted some stuff off my computer , what do i need to do , to get the game running again, just a black screen comes up where the game usually is, after i hit run???????]
#1866 [18:30] <lutzee> Alex_, have you tried force updating?
#1867 [18:30] <Alex_> no sir , how do i do that,
#1868 [18:30] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: Currently your Intel GMA 300 graphics chip is using version 8.14 - with this update you will then be using version 15.26, which should help to resolve the error you've been receiving http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21428&keyword=%22GMA+3000%22&DownloadType=Drivers&lang=eng
#1869 [18:31] <lutzee> Alex_, open the launcher about the login button there is an options button, press that, in the window that pops up there is a button that says force update, press that close the options log into minecraft
#1870 [18:31] <lutzee> it will download all the minecraft files again
#1871 [18:32] <Alex_> aight and its on the log in screen right ? like where i enter my name and password
#1872 [18:33] <lutzee> yes
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#1874 [18:34] <Alex_> lutzee, ur the man
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#1876 [18:40] <Koreck> DiskDaemon: It says " This computer does not meet the minimum requirments for installing this software" after running the installer
#1877 [18:41] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: Oh dear - that doesn't sound good for your machine at all
#1878 [18:41] <Koreck> =(
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#1881 [18:46] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: Did you read the web page, which gives you an alternative solution instead?
#1882 [18:46] <Koreck> No. Sorry. I'll check that now. >_>
#1883 [18:46] <Wug> hurp
#1884 [18:47] <Koreck> Where's the alternate solution?
#1885 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> It's the update utility that Intel provide
#1886 [18:47] * Wug notes that the channel goes before the mode
#1886 [18:47] * Wug spies a trolling opportunity
#1886 [18:49] <Koreck> I don't understand :(
#1887 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: You will easily see it when you read the contents of the page.
#1888 [18:50] <Koreck> Which page? The one with the link or the one immediately after it?\
#1889 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> The page being, http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21428&keyword=%22GMA+3000%22&DownloadType=Drivers&lang=eng
#1890 [18:52] <Koreck> I must be missing something. X_X
#1891 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: Do you see Intel's driver update utility on there?
#1892 [18:52] <Koreck> Oh. Yes.
#1893 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> Would you have seen that if you had carried on reading?
#1894 [18:53] <Koreck> No, I didn't realize that was what I was looking for.
#1895 [18:53] <Koreck> I read right throughn it about 7 times =/
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#1897 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> [10:47:13] <DiskDaemon> It's the update utility that Intel provide
#1898 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> At least you've found it now, without too much hand-holding being involved
#1899 [18:54] <Koreck> I see.
#1900 [18:54] <Koreck> Thank you very much for the hand-holding that you did provide. =/
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#1902 [18:57] <CHAOZNhQ> a minecraft sever that i play keeps saying "greifing the roundhouse" now i cant play why?!?
#1903 [18:57] <DiskDaemon> CHAOZNhQ: Because the OPs seem to think that you have been naughty on there
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#1905 [19:02] <Koreck> It worked!!!\
#1906 [19:02] <Koreck> Thank you! Bye!
#1907 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#1910 [19:05] <jimorrio> my minecraft is missing iteams whats up with that
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#1912 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> WHich items?
#1913 [19:07] <jimorrio> some cd, enchantment table, etc and i cant make them too>
#1914 [19:08] <DiskDaemon> What texture pack are you using?
#1915 [19:08] <jimorrio> none i went to try to dowload a mod and it told me to del something and ever scence then it didnt work
#1916 [19:09] <DiskDaemon> What further information can you give us on that?
#1917 [19:10] <jimorrio> thats it everyting else work
#1918 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> Reinstall Minecraft, and see if you still have the same problem.
#1919 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> ??> jimorrio win/reinst
#1920 [19:10] <VoxelHead> jimorrio: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1921 [19:10] <VoxelHead> jimorrio: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1922 [19:10] <jimorrio> i did that like 5 time and nothing changed
#1923 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> Following those instructions, they should.
#1924 [19:11] <jimorrio> ill try
#1925 [19:11] <jimorrio> thanks
#1926 [19:18] * DiskDaemon clambers to the top of the mountain
#1926 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> zen: What oh zen master can you tell me about the zen of #minecrafthelp ?
#1927 [19:19] * DiskDaemon gives offering
#1927 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, no answer. He must be out, or have enlightened
#1928 [19:24] <jimorrio> it worked thanks
#1929 [19:25] * DiskDaemon trudges back down the mountain, munching on offering
#1929 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#1930 [19:26] <jimorrio> can i get you to help me with one more thing/
#1931 [19:26] <jimorrio> ?
#1932 [19:28] <Moose> I'm getting a NoRouteToHostException error whenever I try connecting to a server. It's never happened to me before, either.
#1933 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> I'll see what I can find
#1934 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> What's an example of a server that you're trying to connect to?
#1935 [19:32] <Moose> as in the IP/port? or the server software?
#1936 [19:33] <Moose> oh, read that as "what"
#1937 [19:33] <Moose> mutinycraft.com, smp.queercraft.net, mooseelkingtons.com:25666
#1938 [19:34] <Moose> Other players can connect, just not me.
#1939 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> Okay, those look to be respectable places. What are your current data transfer speed and ping times at http://www.speedtest.net/
#1940 [19:36] <Moose> 5040kb/s up, 32040kb/s down
#1941 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> jimorrio: What other help did you want?
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#1943 [19:37] <Moose> My connection speed is just fine
#1944 [19:37] <Moose> it's something internal.
#1945 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> Moose: That's the extent of my server troubleshooting knowledge. My only advice further from this is to leave a detailed request for assistance on the minecraft forums, in the game client support thread at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/151-minecraft-game-client-support/
#1946 [19:37] <trollface101010101> minecraft won't download or update it freezes
#1947 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> trollface101010101: Temporarily disable your antivirus program while downloading the update
#1948 [19:38] <Moose> trollface101010101: go to 'options' in the minecraft launcher, and click 'force update', then log in.
#1949 [19:38] <trollface101010101> k
#1950 [19:40] <trollface101010101> i cant find 'force update'
#1951 [19:41] <trollface101010101> found it
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#1953 [19:42] <trollface101010101> minecraft update fraze
#1954 [19:42] <trollface101010101> froze
#1955 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> trollface101010101: go to 'options'
#1956 [19:44] <Moose> no, not in minecraft
#1957 [19:44] <Moose> open up the minecraft launcher, with the list of all the updates and stuff
#1958 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> trollface101010101: Have you temporarily disabled your antivirus program?
#1959 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> The update freezes because your antivirus program mistakenly thinks one of the files is a problem. It's called a false positive.
#1960 [19:46] <Wug> see also
#1961 [19:46] <Wug> :rk
#1962 [19:46] <WugBot> rk: A specific spyware program called "Relevant Knowledge" is known to directly conflict with minecraft. Symptoms include failure of minecraft to download updates (either error messages or freezing while downloading).
#1963 [19:46] <WugBot> rk: To check if you're affected, open the task manager (ctrl+alt+del) and search the list of processes for entries called "rlvknlg.exe". Relevant Knowledge can be uninstalled from add/remove programs. Another similar program with the same symptoms is "PermissionResearch".
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#1965 [19:46] <trollface101010101> i dont know how to disable AVG
#1966 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> trollface101010101: Instructions are at http://www.avg.com/ww-en/faq.num-3857
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#1968 [19:48] <Moose> trollface101010101: right click the 'avg' icon, then click "Temporarily disable AVG Protection"
#1969 [19:48] <Moose> then click "15 minutes"
#1970 [19:49] <Moose> trollface101010101: http://i.imgur.com/JVcft.png
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#1972 [19:52] <in-trouble-please-help> Hello is anyone there?
#1973 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#1974 [19:52] <NinjaKirby> Hello? Is it me you're looking for?
#1975 [19:53] <in-trouble-please-help> minecraft game is down;oaded onto the computer, my brother started playing first,but now my account will not connect to the game
#1976 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> What is your account name?
#1977 [19:54] <in-trouble-please-help> i log in as it says, but it goes to my brothers
#1978 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> in-trouble-please-help: Minecraft uses just one location per user. You really should create a separate user account for yourself on the computer
#1979 [19:55] <in-trouble-please-help> i have downloaded it on another computer, logged in as me and then when my brother tries to play on that computer on his account; mine comes up even if he types his password and username in
#1980 [19:55] <in-trouble-please-help> how?
#1981 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/5261/beginner-geek-add-a-new-user-account-in-windows-7/
#1982 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> That will give you your own separate account on the computer in which to store your document, pictures, music, and minecraft data files
#1983 [19:58] <in-trouble-please-help> O that new account....i thought you ment on minecraft, thanks for your help DiskDaemon :)
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#1986 [20:00] <AcaBaka> Hey, when i try to load the game after logging in it just shuts down. it worked before but then it suddeny stopped i also get a kin of error
#1987 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#1988 [20:01] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1989 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> Please paste details of the error there ^
#1990 [20:07] <AcaBaka> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x000000006d0fa85d, pid=4852, tid=5356 # # JRE version: 6.0_26-b03 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (20.1-b02 mixed mode windows-amd64 compressed oops) # Problematic frame: # C [awt.dll+0xfa85d] # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit: # http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp # Th
#1991 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin AcaBaka
#1992 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> ??> pastebin AcaBaka
#1993 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> ??> AcaBaka pastebin
#1994 [20:07] <VoxelHead> AcaBaka: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1995 [20:09] <AcaBaka> http://pastebin.com/QfjZ180n
#1996 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> AcaBaka: From what I can tell, your graphics card drivers need to be update
#1997 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> ??> AcaBaka win/dxdiag
#1998 [20:09] <VoxelHead> AcaBaka: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1999 [20:09] <VoxelHead> AcaBaka: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2000 [20:11] <AcaBaka> http://pastebin.com/PK0Sqrik
#2001 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> Thanks, I'll see what I can find
#2002 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> Currently your video drivers are from 2009 - you can update them to the most recent 2012 drivers from http://www.official-drivers.com/installer/?seed=ati&gclid=CNrT-b-N6LACFUkaQgodtFbR4w
#2003 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> Choose the Notebook Graphics, and the Raden HD Series, then download and install
#2004 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> *Radeon
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#2006 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> Actually, on second thought, I'll find a more official location in which to get those drivers
#2007 [20:17] <viveleroi> how come mobs barely spawn in vanilla servers? In single player they're all over the place,
#2008 [20:17] <AcaBaka> kk
#2009 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> AcaBaka: These are the drivers that you'll be wanting http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.30&lang=us&rev=&ostype=Windows%207%20-%2064-Bit%20Edition
#2010 [20:18] <AcaBaka> so i just ownload it and install it?
#2011 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> correct
#2012 [20:18] <AcaBaka> kk
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#2017 [20:40] <HELPMEEEEEE> i downloaded spc manual alternative and watched the video on how to install spc on youtube by JoseJalapeno117 and when i started minecraft, all of my game data was missing... HELP
#2018 [20:41] <HELPMEEEEEE> PLEASE HELP <E
#2019 [20:41] <HELPMEEEEEE> ME
#2020 [20:42] <HELPMEEEEEE> HELLO???
#2021 [20:42] <AcaBaka> i have installed the ting now
#2022 [20:42] <AcaBaka> thing*
#2023 [20:43] <HELPMEEEEEE> HELP me please
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#2025 [20:43] <HELPMEEEEEE> AcaBaka
#2026 [20:43] <HELPMEEEEEE> can u help?
#2027 [20:43] <AcaBaka> DiskDaemon
#2028 [20:43] <AcaBaka> no
#2029 [20:43] <HELPMEEEEEE> why
#2030 [20:44] <AcaBaka> i need help to
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#2034 [21:02] <Koreck> Helllo, I can't play MineCraft, it says login failed, and when I attempt to play offline, it closes.
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#2036 [21:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Odd.
#2037 [21:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Lemme finish my house in this lava survival server, then I'll come
#2038 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: What is your login account name?
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#2040 [21:05] <Koreck> Koreck
#2041 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> !paid Koreck
#2042 [21:05] <Koreck> >_>?
#2043 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> That's the first basic check
#2044 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> What do you see when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#2045 [21:06] <Koreck> Bad login
#2046 [21:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Do you have internet, koreck? xc
#2047 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: Good one. Do you see anything strange in the upper area of the launcher?
#2048 [21:07] <Koreck> Like what?
#2049 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> Like HTML code for example
#2050 [21:07] <Koreck> No, I've got the news and such
#2051 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> Okay. Let's reset your password, and see if that helps in any regard https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#2052 [21:09] <Koreck> Alright, one moment
#2053 [21:13] <Koreck> I reset my password
#2054 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> Koreck: How does the login go for you now?
#2055 [21:17] <Koreck> Still does the same thing.
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#2057 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> What happened after you clicked the "Request password reset" button?
#2058 [21:18] <sixteenbit> Hi there...had a question in regards to the how long it usually takes to update Minecraft.
#2059 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> Is yours pausing?
#2060 [21:19] <sixteenbit> It seems to be...the standalone client had a connection error whilst updating
#2061 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> That will most likely be your antivirus program preventing one of the files. It's called a false positive.
#2062 [21:19] <sixteenbit> the connection speed seemed on the low side too :(
#2063 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> You can do something about that by temporarily disabling your antivirus program while the update occurs
#2064 [21:19] <sixteenbit> Nice! Thanks DiskDaemon!
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#2068 [21:22] <Soup_or_Fly> I am currently having aLOT of difficulty getting MineCraft to work on either of my Laptops and would GREATLY appreciate ANY help anyone could provide.
#2069 [21:22] <Soup_or_Fly> The error on one machine indicates "Could not find an Accelerated OpenGL mode" - it indicates a possible easy fix (updating video card drivers) but this was attempted without success
#2070 [21:23] <Soup_or_Fly> the OTHER machine inidcates an issue creating a 'Java Runtime Enviroment' - updating to the latest versions of Java (and the older Java 6) did not help.
#2071 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> Soup_or_Fly: That indicates that your graphics drivers need to be updated
#2072 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> Soup_or_Fly: Let's do one at a time, with the accellerated opengl first
#2073 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> ??> Soup_or_Fly win/dxdiag
#2074 [21:24] <VoxelHead> Soup_or_Fly: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2075 [21:24] <VoxelHead> Soup_or_Fly: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2076 [21:24] <Soup_or_Fly> K, will attempt. Much thanks. Attempting now. One minute...
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#2078 [21:27] <ElementalRogue> Hello
#2079 [21:27] <ElementalRogue> Hello
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#2082 [21:29] <wolfman> hello i have3 a question
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#2084 [21:30] <wolfman> when paying with a prepaid visa card do i put my name or the name on the card
#2085 [21:32] <ElementalRogue> Yeah
#2086 [21:32] <ElementalRogue> I think so
#2087 [21:32] <wolfman> whith one?
#2088 [21:32] <ElementalRogue> Name on card
#2089 [21:32] <ElementalRogue> which should be the same name
#2090 [21:32] <wolfman> ok thanks
#2091 [21:32] <Soup_or_Fly> If you have registered the prepaid card on their website, you would then use the name you registered with online
#2092 [21:33] <wolfman> its a prepaid i dont have to register the card
#2093 [21:33] <ElementalRogue> Anyone need help with there Mc server? or Port forwarding?
#2094 [21:33] <Soup_or_Fly> i dunno if minecraft checks for the billing address to match, some sites do, which require registering the card
#2095 [21:34] <wolfman> does minecraft do that?
#2096 [21:35] <ElementalRogue> No
#2097 [21:35] <wolfman> ok cool
#2098 [21:36] <wolfman> so i should be able to just put the money on the card and then use the card to buy minecraft
#2099 [21:41] <Soup_or_Fly> OK. finished that dxdiag system specs check you suggested. I Private Messaged you the link to the results
#2100 [21:42] <ElementalRogue> So anyone need help with there Minecraft server?
#2101 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> Please do not PM the link, put it in this channel instead. I do not know where your PM went to as it's not lost in among one of the many different channels that I'm on
#2102 [21:43] <Soup_or_Fly> lol, alright. That'd explain the lack of answer. http://pastebin.com/FupK5vg6
#2103 [21:43] <Soup_or_Fly> http://pastebin.com/FupK5vg6
#2104 [21:44] <Soup_or_Fly> Much thanks for any help you can provide at this point .... I've got the 360 version on a dead XBOX, and just puchased the PC version only to run into issues on 3 machines .... more than just a little frustrating
#2105 [21:45] <Soup_or_Fly> and so far the tutorials I've found posted about on the minecraft forums & youtube have offered little help ... i would have expected a generic fix but ... so far no luck
#2106 [21:45] <zen> ._. DiskDaemon i was asleep, as i will return there too
#2107 [21:47] <DiskDaemon> Soup_or_Fly: Your graphics drivers are currently version 8.15 - you can update them to version 14.36 from http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=17342&keyword=965&lang=eng
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#2109 [21:48] <Soup_or_Fly> lol, that'll teach me to go to Dell for drivers on a Dell Laptop .... i should have known better ..... these machines are just sad .... no wonder the company is equally pathetic ...
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#2111 [21:49] <Soup_or_Fly> thanks. I'll let you know how that works out in a minute or two. :)
#2112 [21:49] <Nat> My minecraft isnt loading
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#2114 [21:49] <ItalianStallion> hi is anyone around?
#2115 [21:50] <Nat> i need help my minecraft wont load after like 4%
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#2117 [21:52] <Nat> i need help my minecraft stops loading after like 4%
#2118 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> Nat: That's almost certainly your antivirus program getting in the way. It mistakenly has a false positive on one of the files
#2119 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> You can resolve that by temporarily disabling your antivirus program so that the update can occur
#2120 [21:53] <Nat> im on a laptop and i have AVG but my moms pc has AVG and minecraft works fine on hers
#2121 [21:54] <Nat> my minecraft was working yesterday and its not now
#2122 [21:54] <ItalianStallion> I'm having a problem where my minecraft would randomly close when I do a click or something
#2123 [21:54] <ItalianStallion> and I got an error a few mins ago about java virtual machine running out of memory, or something?
#2124 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> Nat: If the antivirus program isn't the cause of the problem, we can move on to other less likely causes
#2125 [21:55] <Soup_or_Fly> DiskDaemon --- The install for the link you provided first indicated that it was for the wrong operating system (though the file description CLEARLY indicates that it IS for the correct one). After allowing an automatic adjustment to different settings, the error message displayed at the end indicated that i "did not meet the minimum system requirements for the install" - I will search for an older version of these drivers on
#2126 [21:55] <Nat> i have tried to force load and it didnt work and even deleted minecraft and reinstalled it
#2127 [21:56] <Nat> Force Update i ment
#2128 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Soup_or_Fly: That might have been my mistake. This is the one for Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18228&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20Ultimate%2C%2064-bit%20version*&DownloadType=Drivers
#2129 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Nat: Have you tried doing what I said before?
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#2131 [21:58] <Soup_or_Fly> Worth a shot, thanks for saving me the effort :)
#2132 [21:59] <Nat> i dont know how to find out if avg is the problem
#2133 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> temporarily disable it and attempt to update Minecraft again.
#2134 [22:03] <Nat> How would i know if it worked
#2135 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> Nat: Here is confirmation that the antivirus program is widely known to be a major cause when Minecraft stops updating http://www.google.co.nz/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=12&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Aminecraftforum.net#hl=en&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=site:minecraftforum.net+update+anti-virus&oq=site:minecraftforum.net+update+anti-virus&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...4906.9259.1.9418.18.18.0.0.0.1.425.3830.0j1j15j0j1.17.0...0.0.8Qsh7SZFU3g&pb
#2136 [22:03] <Nat> and how would that fix a loading problem
#2137 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> Nat: You'll know that it works because the Minecraft update will then occur
#2138 [22:05] <Nat> When i launch minecraft now it shows a update is available and i click yes/no it does nothing
#2139 [22:05] <Nat> i just dont want to ruin my pc is i disable avg
#2140 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> Nat: We can only give you the answers. It's up to you or someone else to apply them.
#2141 [22:07] <Nat> if i disable avg and i activate it again will i have to go threw the updates when i installed it the first time?
#2142 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> you won't
#2143 [22:07] <Nat> http://www.uploadscreenshot.com/image/685168/7124224 <<< thats not what mine shows
#2144 [22:08] <Nat> it ether says Done loading or it stops loading at 1-4 %
#2145 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> They're using a different antivirus program. Different antivirus, same probelm.
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#2147 [22:09] <Nat> I am used to avg its easyer for me
#2148 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> Nat: nobody is telling you to use a different antivirus program
#2149 [22:10] <Nat> I was reading in the fourms from the link you gave me and it said put an exception on .minecraft folder in your antivirus
#2150 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> although, Microsoft Security Essentials is recommended by people around here, in preference to avg
#2151 [22:10] <Nat> would that work better?
#2152 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> Let's get your Minecraft update working first. You can decide what to do after that
#2153 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> Before putting exceptions in to place, we need to confirm whether your antivirus is causing the problem or not. If it is, then such actions can be considered.
#2154 [22:12] <Nat> ok i will disable it and tell you what happends
#2155 [22:12] <Nat> brb
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#2158 [22:15] <Nat> how do i disable avg 2012
#2159 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> Right click the icon in the system tray
#2160 [22:16] <Nat> ok
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#2162 [22:16] <Help101> Why cant i buy minecraft. it says i cant since i live in Illinois
#2163 [22:16] <Nat> Plus mom mom is think i will have to pay for avg again,Do i?
#2164 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> Illinois has refused to make arrangements with Moneybookers. That's why.
#2165 [22:17] <Help101> so is there anyway i can still buy it?
#2166 [22:17] <Nat> Paypal
#2167 [22:17] <Soup_or_Fly> -- DiskDaemon -- So far i am only getting a blank screen when it loads. No error messages of any kind ... has been this way for well over 5 minutes
#2168 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> You won't have to pay for AVG again. It's not disabling your AVG account. It's just temporarily disabling whether the program is active on your machine or not
#2169 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> Soup_or_Fly: Is that a different situation from what you had to begin with?
#2170 [22:18] <Soup_or_Fly> Yes ... well, before I would get a Black screen for a short period (20 seconds TOPS) followed by the Error Message ...
#2171 [22:18] <Soup_or_Fly> This time around it's just the blank screen. tried twice with restarts inbetween
#2172 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's find out what the error is this time. Use http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/.minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar and that will place a minecraft.log file in your .minecraft/ folder
#2173 [22:19] <Nat> when you say system tray do you mean the task bar?
#2174 [22:19] <Soup_or_Fly> K, will do.... may be a couple of minutes ...
#2175 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> The task bar is where your active tasks are shown. The system tray is the section to the right with the clock and other small icons over to the right
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#2177 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> Nat: System Tray -> http://xtremestylez.com/blogit/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/systemtray.gif
#2178 [22:21] <Nat> ok i see where to disable it but where do i activeate it
#2179 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> From the same place
#2180 [22:21] <Nat> ok brb then
#2181 [22:23] <ItalianStallion> i'm looking for a good server to play on, can anyone recommend one?
#2182 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> www.minecraftservers.org or www.minecraftservers.net
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#2184 [22:24] <ItalianStallion> ok thanks
#2185 [22:24] <ItalianStallion> what about my previous question i asked before that
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#2187 [22:25] <Nat> Ok when i disabled avg it updated slow but now minecraft works again
#2188 [22:25] <Nat> Ty for your help
#2189 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#2190 [22:25] <Nat> Now i know where to come for help :D
#2191 [22:25] <Nat> Thanks
#2192 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> ItalianStallion: I can't help with that one
#2193 [22:26] <Soup_or_Fly> hunh ... very strange.... the window APPEARS as if it is black and nothing is happening .... but i accidentally wound up fullsizing the window (did nothing), then sized it back down and it appears to be WORKING , though I can only see a portion of the screen. i THINK it is working but i just need to toy with my screen resolution, or the resolution settings it launches with .... I'll tinker around a little bit & get back to ya.
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#2195 [22:28] <Soup_or_Fly> Yep ... your fix definately worked. Thank you VERY much. +50 to Karma.
#2196 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> cheers
#2197 [22:29] <ItalianStallion> how do i chat in-game
#2198 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> Press T to talk
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#2201 [22:52] <d3m3nt3d> anyone mind helping me a mod problem..I cant install mods
#2202 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2203 [22:54] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2204 [22:54] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#2205 [22:54] <d3m3nt3d> ok
#2206 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> It's also possible for people on #risucraft o give a hand too. That's where people who create and troubleshoot mods hang out
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#2208 [22:55] <d3m3nt3d> mine seems to be a problem when trying to install any mod
#2209 [22:55] <d3m3nt3d> so its just not a certain mod problem thought it was a minecraft issue
#2210 [22:55] <Tyler> Hello does anyone know of a mod that will allow horses on a multiplayer server I have?
#2211 [22:57] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/81771-v125-mo-creatures-v362-with-ostriches-fishbowls-and-smp-support/
#2212 [22:58] <Tyler> Ok greypine I have a question will every user have to download to there mod folder or will it just work when you enter?
#2213 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Every person would need to have the mod
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#2215 [23:02] <Organic_Ferret> anyone know of a good texture pack that makes red stone look good?
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#2217 [23:10] <Moose> d3m3nt3d
#2218 [23:10] <Moose> Could you explain what you're doing exactly?
#2219 [23:10] <Moose> [20:02] <Organic_Ferret> anyone know of a good texture pack that makes red stone look good?
#2220 [23:11] <Moose> Organic_Ferret: there are many out there. My personal favourites are sphax's purebdcraft, dokucraft (custom), and John Smith
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#2225 [23:24] <jimorrio> i need help trying to figure out were to put my mods im not real computer savvy but im learning. o and i own a pc if that helps.
#2226 [23:25] <Organic_Ferret> im using a lot of red stone part of it is a 700 blink devices 2,400 outputs this is going for a casino and the default is starting look bad
#2227 [23:27] <jimorrio> instruction will do
#2228 [23:27] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
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#2231 [23:30] <thecal> Hi ! I just bought the game but it still say : Users not premium
#2232 [23:31] <thecal> hello ?
#2233 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> thecal: Let's see if we can help
#2234 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> When you say "just bought" is that less than 1 hour ago?
#2235 [23:32] <thecal> yea like 30 minutes ago
#2236 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> It can take from 3 to 5 business days for some payments to clear
#2237 [23:33] <thecal> godamit
#2238 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> Mojang have some details, that can help to answer when you'll receive your premium status at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#2239 [23:33] <thecal> what a rip off
#2240 [23:34] <thecal> is there a way i can know if i made the transaction right ? because i didnt receive any emails but i saved the transaction id after i paid.
#2241 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> Check your bank records. Has your payment gone through yet?
#2242 [23:34] <thecal> how do i check ?
#2243 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> If you have internet banking you can check from there
#2244 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> Or, you can telephone your bank.
#2245 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> If the payment hasn't gone through then there is nothing that Mojang can do about that, and you haven't lost any money. If the payment has gone through, wait until this same day next week (5 business days) and contact Mojang only after that.
#2246 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> Usually it's just a few hours, but things can differ depending on things like the bank and the country
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