#1 [00:00] <sharkattack3205> how do i get to u tomorro
#2 [00:01] <Elystus> This is the only driver I could find. http://download.cnet.com/Intel-GMA-Intel-R-82915G-GV-910GL-Express-Chipset-Family/3000-2108_4-96585.html
#3 [00:01] <jk> ok thanks so much ill give it a try
#4 [00:01] <Wug> sharkattack3205: ill still be here
#5 [00:01] <Wug> bring your friend
#6 [00:02] <sharkattack3205> can i add u on here something like that
#7 [00:02] <sharkattack3205> well i cant teclly do that he lives in texas and i live in ky
#8 [00:03] <sharkattack3205> plz plz plz
#9 [00:03] <sharkattack3205> i really need to do this
#10 [00:04] <puffrfish> -.-
#11 [00:04] <sharkattack3205> plz wug
#12 [00:04] <sharkattack3205> i know the computer
#13 [00:05] <sharkattack3205> port meas a code to let imfo ni
#14 [00:05] <Elystus> It is unsafe to run a server without knowledge of networking.
#15 [00:06] <sharkattack3205> ok how can i get u tomorrom
#16 [00:07] <sharkattack3205> plz
#17 [00:07] <sharkattack3205> i can do this
#18 [00:09] <sharkattack3205> how do i know u r here morro
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#21 [00:10] <Maximus> hello
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#23 [00:10] <sharkattack3205> u there
#24 [00:10] <Elystus> Hello
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#26 [00:10] <sharkattack3205> wug
#27 [00:10] <Elystus> What do you need Maximus?
#28 [00:10] <RES1CUE> anyone here good with 0.3.0 PE?
#29 [00:11] <RES1CUE> PE in general?
#30 [00:11] <Maximus> i was talking somone else had to restart my computer
#31 [00:11] <Elystus> What was the issue Maximus?
#32 [00:12] <sharkattack3205> u there wug
#33 [00:12] <Maximus> i was talking to wug. but something with my graphics card not working with minecraft
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#35 [00:12] <Wug> Maximus: try reinstalling again
#36 [00:13] <Maximus> reinstall what
#37 [00:13] <Maximus> i got this error Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 6/26/12 12:08 AM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed m
#38 [00:13] <sharkattack3205> plz plz plz
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#40 [00:15] <sharkattack3205> can i and u wug try it to morro
#41 [00:18] <sharkattack3205> can we atleast do this to morro
#42 [00:18] <sharkattack3205> wug
#43 [00:18] <sharkattack3205> wug
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#45 [00:19] <sharkattack3205> plz be here to morro plz
#46 [00:20] <sharkattack3205> i will call my friend to try o get on here
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#48 [00:21] <sharkattack3205> plz be here wug plz im counting on u
#49 [00:22] <sharkattack3205> plz be here to morro plz
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#51 [00:28] <Maximus> still did not work
#52 [00:29] <DiskDaemon> Maximus: What has been done so far?
#53 [00:29] <DiskDaemon> Can we get a fresh dxdiag report, from after the updating?
#54 [00:29] <Maximus> had to reinstall graphic card drivers
#55 [00:30] <Maximus> ?
#56 [00:30] <Maximus> dxiag
#57 [00:30] <DiskDaemon> ??> Maximus win/dxdiag
#58 [00:30] <VoxelHead> Maximus: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#59 [00:30] <VoxelHead> Maximus: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#60 [00:30] <Elystus> Hey Disk! :)
#61 [00:31] <DiskDaemon> Elystus o/
#62 [00:32] <Maximus> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 6/26/2012, 00:31:27 Machine name: MAXLINDER-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.120503-2030) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: System manufacturer System Model: System Product Name BIOS: BIOS Date: 03/08/10 16:52:29 Ver: 08.00.15
#63 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> Maximus: Not here, use pastebin.com
#64 [00:34] <Maximus> http://pastebin.com/XxJkCSKg
#65 [00:35] <Elystus> What exactly happens when you start minecraft?
#66 [00:35] <Maximus> i log in then it goes straight to a black screen. java crashes
#67 [00:36] <Elystus> Can we generate a crash report?
#68 [00:36] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#69 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> Maximus: You're using version 8.17 for your current graphics driver. You can update them to the latest verison (verison 11 or 12) from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#70 [00:38] <Maximus> i downloaded it and just gave me a message saying i have the newest version of my device
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#72 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> Maximus: For some reason, your dxdiag report says: "Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1124" which is a very old driver.
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#74 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> Maximus: I'll see if I can find a specific download for you
#75 [00:40] <Elystus> manually download the newer driver
#76 [00:40] <Maximus> ok
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#78 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> Maximus: This is the page from which you can download the 12.4 suite of drivers for your graphics card http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42;2.4.1.3.44&lang=us&rev=&ostype=Windows%207%20-%2064-Bit%20Edition
#79 [00:43] <Maximus> thanks
#80 [00:43] <Maximus> wait this is the one i installed earlier
#81 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> Do you want to give the beta ones a go? THey're on the same page
#82 [00:44] <Maximus> sure
#83 [00:44] <Elystus> Disk, are we sure that it is a problem with the graphics drivers?
#84 [00:45] <Elystus> I have not seen an error report, but there might have been one before I came.
#85 [00:46] <Maximus> not sure but i just recently installed the graphics card
#86 [00:47] <Maximus> but i run diablo 3 not very well but i still get like 20 frames
#87 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: yes, we do. "[16:13:16] <Maximus> i got this error Bad video card drivers! ..."
#88 [00:47] <Elystus> Okay :)
#89 [00:47] <Maximus> so it is the drivers
#90 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> Correct - those version 8 drivers that you had from the dxdiag report are the issue.
#91 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> We see it here (and fix it for people) many times each day
#92 [00:48] <Maximus> ok
#93 [00:49] <Maximus> is the beta fairly stable
#94 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> It is
#95 [00:54] <Maximus> do i have to unistall the old ones or just run teh beta installation
#96 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> I would suggest uninstalling the old ones first
#97 [00:55] <Maximus> would the be under the normal contral panel thing
#98 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> If it is to be found, that's where it would be
#99 [00:58] <Elystus> to uninstall the old driver?
#100 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> If the ability to uninstall it exists, it will be in the control panel. If it's not found, carry on with the update
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#102 [01:10] <Maximus> hello
#103 [01:10] <Elystus> Hello again!
#104 [01:10] <Elystus> Were you able to find and uninstall it?
#105 [01:11] <Maximus> yes i unistalled it but now im installing the beta. but on the instalation for the catalyst control panel its says "version: 08.00.0881"
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#107 [01:12] <Elystus> weird.
#108 [01:12] <Elystus> Well, see if it works.
#109 [01:12] <Maximus> ok
#110 [01:23] <Maximus> it worked fag
#111 [01:23] * AuBot kicked Maximus from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aximus :Please keep it civil.)
#112 [01:24] <Elystus> O.o
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#114 [01:25] <Eddie> tourette's?
#115 [01:25] * Eddie shrugs
#115 [01:25] <Elystus> Yea...
#116 [01:25] <Elystus> Oh well, at least his problem is fixed! :D
#117 [01:25] <Eddie> :D
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#123 [02:09] <Krayzie13> i got a problem: Over a month ago, i ordered a gift code for Minecraft. I used Moneybookers, and on the 23rd of May the payment was executed, but i never received my key. What can I do?
#124 [02:10] <Elystus> Was money taken out of your account
#125 [02:10] <Denaton> Did you buy it from a Third Party Site?
#126 [02:10] <Krayzie13> no
#127 [02:10] <Krayzie13> on the official page
#128 [02:10] <Krayzie13> and yes, the money was taken, my moneybookers says
#129 [02:10] <Elystus> Check your actual bank account thought
#130 [02:10] <Elystus> though*
#131 [02:11] <Elystus> Also, check on the profile page on minecraft.net
#132 [02:11] <Elystus> That is where the giftcode will be displayed
#133 [02:14] <Krayzie13> ah, there it is -.-
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#135 [02:14] <Krayzie13> so inconsiderable
#136 [02:14] <Krayzie13> another question is, if i can change my email in any way
#137 [02:15] <Krayzie13> i would like to do that, because the mail i login with doesn't exist anymore
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#139 [02:15] <Elystus> You will have to email Mojang if you do not have access to the old one anymore.
#140 [02:16] <Krayzie13> okay
#141 [02:16] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#142 [02:16] <Krayzie13> thx
#143 [02:16] <Denaton> or migrate it and change it on mojang.com but its buggy and i havent been acces to my Minecraft account for over 2.5 month
#144 [02:17] <Elystus> That requires having access to your email Denaton
#145 [02:17] <Krayzie13> yeah
#146 [02:17] <Krayzie13> thats the problem
#147 [02:17] <Krayzie13> i will try what you sent me
#148 [02:17] <Denaton> omfg! I had this talk last day for 2h, its not that
#149 [02:17] <Elystus> It may take a while to get a response.
#150 [02:17] <Elystus> ?
#151 [02:17] <Krayzie13> yeah
#152 [02:17] <Krayzie13> maybe
#153 [02:18] <Krayzie13> but still i can use my account
#154 [02:18] <Krayzie13> so
#155 [02:18] <Denaton> ah, nwm i could not read for a sec
#156 [02:18] <Denaton> its early in the morning =P
#157 [02:18] <Krayzie13> :P
#158 [02:18] <Krayzie13> shit happens
#159 [02:18] <Elystus> Yea, I understand Denaton
#160 [02:21] <Krayzie13> okay, my brother ordered my key, so i need to look for the ID later when he's back
#161 [02:23] <Elystus> sounds good :) Glad I could help. :D
#162 [02:23] <Krayzie13> thx
#163 [02:23] <Krayzie13> so, what do you think? How long would it take?
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#167 [02:26] <Krayzie13> man, when is 1.3 released
#168 [02:26] <Krayzie13> xD
#169 [02:27] <Krayzie13> cant wait
#170 [02:29] <Elystus> Um hold on...
#171 [02:29] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#172 [02:29] <Krayzie13> oh, thx for that
#173 [02:29] <Elystus> Also, yea 1.3 sounds pretty cool! :D
#174 [02:29] <Krayzie13> still i see no signs from Jeb or anyone
#175 [02:29] <Elystus> They are catching up on emails.
#176 [02:30] <ShaRose> 1.3 will be out when it's done
#177 [02:30] <Krayzie13> :p
#178 [02:30] <ShaRose> they don't know when that will be
#179 [02:30] <Krayzie13> i guess thats right
#180 [02:30] <ShaRose> sending emails asking them is literally pointless and actually delays it
#181 [02:30] <Krayzie13> i didnt plan on doing that
#182 [02:30] <Elystus> He is not asking them in an email lol, thats for another issue.
#183 [02:31] <Elystus> Also, it wouldn't delay it. It would jut piss off the support team.
#184 [02:31] <Krayzie13> I'm pretty much testing every build, that makes it even harder to wait :)
#185 [02:31] <Elystus> just*
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#187 [02:31] <Elystus> I have not even touched the snapshots.
#188 [02:31] <Krayzie13> okay
#189 [02:31] <TKGP_DS> well, at least when it comes out it will be completely bug-free!
#190 [02:31] <Notch> Hello
#191 [02:32] <Krayzie13> not completely
#192 [02:32] <Krayzie13> but mostly
#193 [02:32] <Notch> lol it will be changed back lols
#194 [02:32] <Elystus> Oh look its Notch! >_>
#195 [02:32] <Krayzie13> hello
#196 [02:32] <Notch> lol its not notch
#197 [02:32] <Krayzie13> :)
#198 [02:32] <Guest71189> im fake :(
#199 [02:32] <Elystus> I know lol...
#200 [02:32] <Krayzie13> but who?
#201 [02:32] <Guest71189> Lols it was me
#202 [02:32] <Elystus> Its actually Jeb! :O
#203 [02:32] <TKGP_DS> #jokes, it will be riddled with bugs as usual :~:
#204 [02:32] <TheComputaHacka> this is my real name
#205 [02:32] <Krayzie13> okay
#206 [02:32] <Elystus> cool
#207 [02:32] <Krayzie13> so you're a hacker
#208 [02:32] <jeb_> Hello
#209 [02:32] <Krayzie13> thats how you did it
#210 [02:32] <Krayzie13> :D
#211 [02:33] <jeb_> lols
#212 [02:33] <ShaRose> fool
#213 [02:33] <jeb_> Hehe
#214 [02:33] <jeb_> Imma programmer tho
#215 [02:33] <ShaRose> jeb doesn't have the underscore on irc
#216 [02:33] <jeb_> I know
#217 [02:33] * VoxelHead kicked Notch from #minecrafthelp (Reason: otch :Banned: nick flood)
#218 [02:33] <TKGP_DS> gg
#219 [02:33] <Elystus> Lol
#220 [02:33] <Krayzie13> owned
#221 [02:33] <ShaRose> /nickserv info jeb
#222 [02:33] <ShaRose> etc
#223 [02:33] <ShaRose> also Nice Fail
#224 [02:33] <Krayzie13> it was blasphemy
#225 [02:33] <Elystus> That happened to me the other day by accident
#226 [02:33] <Krayzie13> thats why they kicked him
#227 [02:34] <Denaton> Banned beacuse changed nick to fast
#228 [02:34] <Krayzie13> yeah
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#230 [02:35] <Krayzie13> but my explanation also makes sense in my eyes
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#238 [04:06] <ZeJokerGuy> I cant verify my account. Im not receiving any verification code
#239 [04:07] <Elystus> Was money taken out of your bank account.
#240 [04:07] <ZeJokerGuy> no
#241 [04:07] <Elystus> them the purchase did not go through.
#242 [04:07] <ZeJokerGuy> Im trying to sign up first
#243 [04:07] <ZeJokerGuy> I need to buy the game to sign up?
#244 [04:07] <Elystus> Herp te derp. Okay, so make sure that you actually typed the email correctly.
#245 [04:07] <Elystus> Often times this is the issue.
#246 [04:08] <ZeJokerGuy> Its all correct
#247 [04:08] <ZeJokerGuy> Ive clicked the resend button a few and still no email
#248 [04:09] <Elystus> How long have you waited?
#249 [04:10] <ZeJokerGuy> 15 mins now. how long does it take, usually?
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#251 [04:12] <Elystus> I would wait a little longer. If not, it would be easier to just create another account under a diffrent email. You may even be able to do it under the same one.
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#253 [04:12] <ZeJokerGuy> It wont let me create another with the same username
#254 [04:13] <ZeJokerGuy> i just got it. its all good now
#255 [04:13] <mib_6esxly> when i open the launcher its black on the bottom wheres its supposed to be dirt and says cant connect to minecraft.net
#256 [04:13] <Elystus> Okay, so it was just a matter of time. Yea, I was thinking that. They have a slow email system.
#257 [04:14] <ZeJokerGuy> Thanks
#258 [04:14] <Elystus> I am heading off to bed cya guys! :)
#259 [04:14] <Elystus> I am heading off to bed cya guys! :)
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#263 [04:26] <ZeJokerGuy> Multiplayer keeps saying it can verify username. single player works, just not multiplayer
#264 [04:26] <ZeJokerGuy> Cant*
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#267 [04:40] <Stryker70> If the Minecraft server can already detect movement cheats, then why doesn't it have an auto kick/ban/rollback system? I know it can detect them because it spams the console with "got [xx,xx], expected [xx,xx]"
#268 [04:41] <Stryker70> Oh no
#269 [04:41] <Stryker70> Sorry gtg
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#273 [05:11] <windy> hello?
#274 [05:11] <Necrodoom> ask
#275 [05:12] <windy> i brought minecraft over 9 days ago now and i still havent received my premiun can u help?
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#277 [05:12] <Necrodoom> you tried to contact mojang?
#278 [05:12] <windy> yeh i sent a email to them friday just gone
#279 [05:13] <windy> with all the information etc
#280 [05:13] <Necrodoom> good luck getting an answer
#281 [05:13] <windy> ys that?
#282 [05:13] <Necrodoom> ?
#283 [05:13] <windy> why gd luck gettin answer
#284 [05:14] <Necrodoom> nvm
#285 [05:15] <tikker> ...
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#287 [05:19] <tikker> ??< premium
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#293 [06:04] <hummie> My launchers keys are stuck
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#295 [06:07] <hummie_> my laucher wont work I cant type my username or paswoord or login or clickon options
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#297 [06:16] <arjan28> I can't start up minecraft, it worked before and i have java 7 update 5. what can i do to play the game when the connection fails?
#298 [06:16] <DiskDaemon> That's a common known issue where Java 7 tries to use IPv6 instead of IPv4 to communicate with the minecraft server. There's a solution for that
#299 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> How can you find out about the solution, at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/page__view__findpost__p__15934547 if you leave?
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#302 [06:20] <adam15911> so i've started a server and it keeps disconnecting people for no reason. This is a pastebin link to a more detailed explination and my server.log file http://pastebin.com/yQwLTdsK. Help would be greatly appreciated. thanks
#303 [06:23] <GreyVulpine> How is the server connected to your network? Ethernet? Wireless?
#304 [06:26] <adam15911> its connected through ethernet to my router
#305 [06:27] <GreyVulpine> Server's running off a USB stick? Have you tried running it off the hard drive? How fast is the USB stick?
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#307 [06:31] <adam15911> i've tried running off a hard drive and i get teh same error. I cant remember the exact speed but its a fast USB
#308 [06:33] <GreyVulpine> Has it always done this?
#309 [06:34] <adam15911> yeah so far. i thought it was bukkit causing it but then i found out it was happening even with vanilla minecraft even under different OSes
#310 [06:37] <DiskDaemon> This may not help much, but that connection reset error is always seen when the server cannot maintain a connection with the user. Reasons for it vary though from having too many users, through to just a poor quality or lower bandwidth for the server
#311 [06:37] <GreyVulpine> That's what I'm pointing at as well..
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#313 [06:39] <SinZ> <3 the parts for my computer came in today
#314 [06:39] <adam15911> i dont think its too many people becuase it happens even when im the only person on the server and i thought my upload speed might cause a problem (its 1MB/s) but it even happens when im connecting locally to the server
#315 [06:39] <SinZ> saving would take awhile on 1MB/s
#316 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> Are you connecting to the external IP or the local IP address?
#317 [06:39] <GreyVulpine> You only have 2 gigs of RAM on the computer, but your launch line reserves the full 2 gigs of the computer?
#318 [06:44] <DiskDaemon> adam15911: If you connect to your external IP address you'll have the same connection issues that others experience. Connecting to the local IP address instead is a good way to see if you get a faster local connection
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#320 [06:45] <mrhead> hello
#321 [06:45] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#322 [06:45] <mrhead> I installed minecraft
#323 [06:45] <mrhead> actually my friend did
#324 [06:45] <adam15911> i was testing using 2gb reserved but same thing happens when i use 1.5 or 1
#325 [06:45] <mrhead> im playing offline now on my account
#326 [06:45] <DiskDaemon> then the amount of memory has no bearing on that particular situation
#327 [06:46] <adam15911> im connecting using local ip and my friend connects using external ip but we both disconnect at the same tine
#328 [06:46] <mrhead> i accidentely deleted my .minecraft and now it wont start anymore
#329 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> mrhead - Yup, you need a premium account to play minecraft, or at least to download the files
#330 [06:46] <mrhead> i know
#331 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> mrhead - Either pay for an account, or well.. pay for an account
#332 [06:46] <mrhead> but if my friend login on his payed account it wont start neither
#333 [06:46] <GreyVulpine> Nobody here will give you their .minecraft folder.
#334 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> adam15911: You both disconnect at the same time, which seems to imply that it's not the communications, but the ability of the server to keep up with things that's having trouble
#335 [06:47] <mrhead> know
#336 [06:47] <mrhead> no im that friend
#337 [06:47] <mrhead> mrhead is next 2 me
#338 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Why should we facilitate the illegal sharing of files for you?
#339 [06:47] <mrhead> i have not asked for that, did I?
#340 [06:47] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#341 [06:47] <mrhead> so why u say that?
#342 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> mrhead: What help are you asking for here?
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#344 [06:48] <mrhead> if anyone can help me with setting up my minecraft again
#345 [06:48] <mrhead> i deleted my .minecraft 3 times
#346 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> And what's the problem?
#347 [06:48] <mrhead> and downloaded minecraft.exe again
#348 [06:48] <mrhead> and it wont login
#349 [06:48] <GreyVulpine> And what happens when you try to log in?
#350 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> mrhead: Sure thing. Download the Minecraft launcher from minecraft.net, and when you log in with your account, it will download the files to .minecraft/ for you
#351 [06:49] <mrhead> well i did and it wont download
#352 [06:49] <mrhead> if i start minecraft.exe
#353 [06:49] <mrhead> it says
#354 [06:49] <mrhead> cant connect to minecraft.net
#355 [06:49] <mrhead> i can choose try again
#356 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> !login
#357 [06:49] <mrhead> or play offline
#358 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Let me guess, you pirated minecraft?
#359 [06:49] <mrhead> no i dont
#360 [06:49] <DiskDaemon> What do you see when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#361 [06:49] <GreyVulpine> Did your friend?
#362 [06:50] <mrhead> no
#363 [06:50] <mrhead> wait ill login on my other acc
#364 [06:50] * GreyVulpine sighs
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#365 [06:50] <miphoofd> mr head here
#366 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> miphoofd: What do you see when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#367 [06:50] <miphoofd> so i download minecraft
#368 [06:50] <miphoofd> i start the .exe
#369 [06:51] <miphoofd> i login
#370 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Please answer DiskDaemon's question
#371 [06:51] <miphoofd> bad login
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#373 [06:51] <DiskDaemon> Good one, that's a good thing to see ther
#374 [06:51] <miphoofd> on my pc it works
#375 [06:51] <GreyVulpine> Are you currently on the computer in question?
#376 [06:52] <miphoofd> what do you mean?
#377 [06:52] <GreyVulpine> Are you at the computer displaying the error?
#378 [06:52] <DiskDaemon> The PC that's having the Minecraft trouble, he means.
#379 [06:52] <miphoofd> yes
#380 [06:52] <miphoofd> when i go to minecraft.net
#381 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> Does the upper section of the launcher show anything strange, before you login?
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#383 [06:53] <miphoofd> ill look for you
#384 [06:53] <miphoofd> this is what it shows
#385 [06:53] <miphoofd> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>
#386 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Java 7 is installed then
#387 [06:53] <miphoofd> i have to update Java then?
#388 [06:53] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#389 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that's an IPv6 communication issue. You can tell Java to use IPv4 instead, which will fix the login issue too
#390 [06:54] <miphoofd> how do i do that?
#391 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> Details are at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/ but I'll get the actual post for you
#392 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> The post with a solution is at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/page__view__findpost__p__15934547
#393 [06:55] <miphoofd> Ok many thanks, both of you
#394 [06:55] <miphoofd> ill look
#395 [06:55] <miphoofd> if it wont work ill come back
#396 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> that sounds ominous
#397 [06:55] * GreyVulpine shrugs and sighs
#397 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> I wonder why people commonly fail to mention the strange text in the new section of the launcher. We'll have to keep on prodding about that
#398 [06:57] * GreyVulpine nods
#398 [06:58] <lutzee> might be because it occured for them before, and they could still login, sometimes it just generally failed to download the news
#399 [07:00] <DiskDaemon> I wonder if they can fix that in the launcher by editing the system property for java.net.preferIPv6Addresses to false within the launcher itself
#400 [07:01] <GreyVulpine> Probably
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#402 [07:01] <Denaton> I cant find the channel for Modders... Was on i last night and forgot about the name.
#403 [07:01] <Necrodoom> hi disk
#404 [07:02] <DiskDaemon> #risucraft is that channel
#405 [07:02] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom o/
#406 [07:02] <Denaton> Thanks
#407 [07:02] <adam15911> if anyone wants to see the actual server and the problems the address is 220.239.220.208:25565
#408 [07:03] <DiskDaemon> adam15911: No thanks, any connection we make to that server will just make things even worse
#409 [07:04] <adam15911> ok cool, didnt know if it would make it easier to figure out whats wrong
#410 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> !check 220.239.220.208:25565
#411 [07:05] <GreyVulpine> Good god, 306ms ping?
#412 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> Is that a dial-up modem on there?
#413 [07:06] <adam15911> nah im from aus
#414 [07:06] <SinZ> 306ms ping isnt bad...
#415 [07:06] <DiskDaemon> !ping s.nerd.nu
#416 [07:06] * SinZ is an australian, knows the feeling of 300+ ping not being anything
#416 [07:06] <DiskDaemon> !check s.nerd.nu
#417 [07:06] <Boreeas> !check c.nerd.nu
#418 [07:06] <Boreeas> Oh look
#419 [07:07] <DiskDaemon> !check mc-lc.com
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#421 [07:12] <miphoofd> didnt work
#422 [07:12] <GreyVulpine> miphoofd - Uninstall java completely from the system, and install only 6
#423 [07:13] <miphoofd> busy...
#424 [07:14] <adam15911> also, dunno if this is important but Putty and WinSCP seem to drop out a fair bit when connected locally to the server
#425 [07:15] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: Are there any effective ways of checking on the connection health of a line?
#426 [07:15] <miphoofd> im getting pissed from this
#427 [07:16] <miphoofd> i cant delete java from this pc
#428 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> miphoofd: We're all community volunteers here, unaffiliated with Mojang. We help as and where we can
#429 [07:16] <miphoofd> i know, and i appreciate your help
#430 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> ?? java/ipv6
#431 [07:16] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#432 [07:16] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#433 [07:16] <GreyVulpine> It would require some network tools to determine where the bottleneck lies. Is it some sort of software thing? Is the the NIC? Is it the ethernet line?
#434 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Is it the router? What's the network topology like?
#435 [07:17] <miphoofd> topology?
#436 [07:17] <miphoofd> srry im not english/american
#437 [07:17] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that wasn't for you
#438 [07:18] <miphoofd> oh lol
#439 [07:18] <DiskDaemon> I'm going to see if I can force one of my machines to connect using Ipv6 only, for testing purposes
#440 [07:18] <miphoofd> also..
#441 [07:19] <miphoofd> i cant play it in the browser
#442 [07:19] <miphoofd> WUT????
#443 [07:19] <miphoofd> i cant even download it anymore
#444 [07:20] <miphoofd> it says:
#445 [07:20] <miphoofd> cant connect or something
#446 [07:20] <DiskDaemon> or something? What does it actually say?
#447 [07:21] <miphoofd> No acces to the network
#448 [07:21] <miphoofd> Google Chrome is having problems getting access to the network. This may be because your firewall or antivirus software wrongly think that Google Chrome does not belong on your computer and therefore the Internet is blocked. Here are some suggestions: Add Google Chrome as allowed program to the settings of your firewall or antivirus software. If this is an allowed program, you can remove it from the list of allowed programs and re-add.
#449 [07:21] <miphoofd> this is it
#450 [07:21] <miphoofd> i used google translate
#451 [07:22] <miphoofd> dutch-english
#452 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a firewall issue.
#453 [07:23] <GreyVulpine> Make sure your security software or firewall is not blocking connections to the internet
#454 [07:24] <miphoofd> but before i was in the chat i could download it
#455 [07:24] <miphoofd> i tried restarting my pc
#456 [07:25] <miphoofd> ill see you later
#457 [07:26] <miphoofd> bye, and thanks for your help
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#459 [07:32] <DiskDaemon> To get IPv6 working locally here, it seems the router is going to need some editing. With dd-wrt on there it looks like some editing's going to be required. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6#Enabling_IPv6_Support
#460 [07:32] <DiskDaemon> This should be fun.
#461 [07:33] <tikker> :)
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#466 [07:52] <Calinou> <SinZ> 306ms ping isnt bad...
#467 [07:52] <Calinou> for minecraft, mojang considers it "decent"
#468 [07:52] <Calinou> this makes me laugh
#469 [07:52] <Calinou> 306ms ping on any quake-based FPS is horrible
#470 [07:52] <Calinou> <100ms being good
#471 [08:03] <Boreeas> I rarely get less then 300 to /any/ server
#472 [08:03] <Boreeas> An exception being those in a local network
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#474 [08:12] <Calinou> local server, sometimes: 55ms
#475 [08:12] <Calinou> lol
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#480 [08:46] <SinZ> CSS is the only game i've had <300ms, with the exception to local
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#483 [09:06] <lukasz56> how to fix can't connect to minecraft.net problem ?
#484 [09:06] <Calinou> lukasz56, using any antivirus/firewall? which antivirus?
#485 [09:06] <lukasz56> i use nod 32 smart security
#486 [09:06] <Calinou> also, try to revert to the old java version
#487 [09:07] <lukasz56> tryied :( didn't work
#488 [09:07] <lukasz56> i also wan't play tekkit (technic pack )
#489 [09:07] <SinZ> !login
#490 [09:07] <Calinou> 1) uninstall java 7
#491 [09:07] <Calinou> 2) download this: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#492 [09:07] <lukasz56> Tryied
#493 [09:07] <Calinou> Windows x86 Offline for 32 bit, Windows x64 for 64 bit
#494 [09:07] <SinZ> lukasz56: what is the time on your PC atm
#495 [09:07] <lukasz56> this problem exist already 1 month
#496 [09:07] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, another guy with ipv6 problem
#497 [09:07] <Calinou> :P
#498 [09:07] <Calinou> don't know how to solve it
#499 [09:08] <lukasz56> 16:08 2012 06 26
#500 [09:08] <lukasz56> it's ok
#501 [09:08] <DiskDaemon> pardon, was distracted
#502 [09:08] <DiskDaemon> ?? java/ipv6
#503 [09:08] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#504 [09:08] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#505 [09:08] <Calinou> "your server" :x
#506 [09:08] <lukasz56> okay i will try in a moment
#507 [09:08] <Calinou> try starting the game with this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#508 [09:09] <Calinou> lukasz56, put on desktop and run it
#509 [09:09] <lukasz56> ok
#510 [09:09] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#511 [09:09] <lukasz56> already downloading it
#512 [09:09] <SinZ> if all else fails, check your hosts file
#513 [09:09] <SinZ> ?? win/hosts
#514 [09:09] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#515 [09:09] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#516 [09:09] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: That's the thread with a solution to the ipv6 issue
#517 [09:09] <lukasz56> i tyied with hosts , there's nio minecraft
#518 [09:09] <lukasz56> what ipv6 ?
#519 [09:10] <lukasz56> oh wait
#520 [09:10] <lukasz56> one minute
#521 [09:10] <SinZ> internet protocol, version 6 iirc
#522 [09:10] <lukasz56> i iwll give host
#523 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Whn you start he minecraft launcher, do you see anything strange in the upper part?
#524 [09:10] <lukasz56> wait please
#525 [09:10] <lukasz56> no
#526 [09:11] <lukasz56> http://pastebin.com/AqrH6iUv
#527 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> righto, so it's not likely to be the ipv6 issue. Calinou - want to carry on?
#528 [09:11] <lukasz56> i had that isue on win8 too
#529 [09:12] <SinZ> can you visit http://login.minecraft.net/?user=hi&password=ho&version=1337
#530 [09:12] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: What details can you give us about it not connecting. Does it get part-way through an update, for example?
#531 [09:12] <lukasz56> bad login
#532 [09:12] <lukasz56> it says
#533 [09:12] <SinZ> ok, so you have a proper connection to the login servers...
#534 [09:13] <Calinou> -_- please don't mix "can't connect to minecraft.net" and "can't connect to a server"
#535 [09:13] <Calinou> > restart the game
#536 [09:13] <Calinou> > try another server
#537 [09:13] <lukasz56> it's not about can't connect to server
#538 [09:13] <SinZ> Calinou: I was testing if he actually had a connection problem to the login server, if its working, it says bad login
#539 [09:14] <lukasz56> So what i need to do ?
#540 [09:15] <Calinou> lukasz56, so you're talking about a multiplayer server; try another server and see
#541 [09:15] <Calinou> s.nerd.nu < this one?
#542 [09:15] <SinZ> lukasz56: Is the error on the launcher, or in minecraft
#543 [09:15] <lukasz56> no , look it's not multiplayer server it's problem with launcher
#544 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> The trouble is with your username/password?
#545 [09:16] <SinZ> DiskDaemon: wont get cannot connect to minecraft.net by that
#546 [09:16] <lukasz56> i type my login and pass , click connect , and it says that laucher can't connect to minecraft.net
#547 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> That's something that is most commonly caused by the ipv6 issue
#548 [09:17] <SinZ> so is date/time issue
#549 [09:17] <SinZ> and hosts file
#550 [09:17] <lukasz56> The Date Is Good
#551 [09:18] <DiskDaemon> hosts is good
#552 [09:18] <lukasz56> Mhm
#553 [09:18] <lukasz56> so what i need to do ?
#554 [09:18] <DiskDaemon> Do you know how to create a batch file?
#555 [09:18] <lukasz56> yes
#556 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> And, do you know how to use the command prompt to get to where your minecraft.exe file is?
#557 [09:19] <lukasz56> u mean appdata ?
#558 [09:19] <Calinou> > starting exe from commandline is pointless
#559 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> We can test to see if disabling ipv6 with the launcher helps to fix the problem
#560 [09:19] <Calinou> start the jar
#561 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar minecraft.exe
#562 [09:20] <Calinou> (no debug info at all)
#563 [09:20] <DiskDaemon> With the .jar then
#564 [09:20] <SinZ> the .exe is still a working jar according to java, still works
#565 [09:20] <lukasz56> Wait
#566 [09:20] <lukasz56> So What I Need To Do I Don't Know
#567 [09:21] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Let's see if starting the launcher with ipv6 disabled, fixes the problem
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#569 [09:21] <SinZ> go to the folder where your launcher is, in command prompt
#570 [09:21] <SinZ> then type this into cmd: java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar minecraft.exe
#571 [09:22] <lukasz56> command prompt is cmd ?
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#573 [09:22] <SinZ> yep
#574 [09:22] <lukasz56> i typed
#575 [09:23] <lukasz56> now click enter ?
#576 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> yes
#577 [09:23] <SinZ> with luck, the launcher started.
#578 [09:23] <lukasz56> Unable to access jar file minecraft.net
#579 [09:23] <lukasz56> it says
#580 [09:23] <lutzee> you need to change the directory to where your minecraft.exe is
#581 [09:24] <lukasz56> how ?
#582 [09:24] <Necrodoom> wait, what
#583 [09:24] <lutzee> where is your minecraft.exe located?
#584 [09:24] <Necrodoom> "Unable to access jar file minecraft.net"
#585 [09:24] <Necrodoom> wtf is this jar
#586 [09:24] <lukasz56> ?
#587 [09:24] <Calinou> lol
#588 [09:24] <arjan28> Can anyone help me? I can't connect to java, my username + pass wont work and on the site it says: fatal error ocurred (4) Connection reset
#589 [09:24] <SinZ> lukasz56: protip: go to the folder where your launcher is, then do shift+right click in explorer, and click Start Commandprompt in this window
#590 [09:24] <SinZ> arjan28: Anti-virus issue
#591 [09:24] <arjan28> ok
#592 [09:24] <Calinou> arjan28, disable the "link scanner" module of AVG/avira
#593 [09:25] <Calinou> it causes a false positive with minecraft
#594 [09:25] <lukasz56> still i don't know how to do it
#595 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Did you spell it as minecraft.exe or as minecraft.net
#596 [09:25] <lukasz56> minecraft.net
#597 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> Read that line again - it should be minecraft.exe
#598 [09:26] <arjan28> I have F-secure.... what do i need to set in my anti virus software to let minecraft run/
#599 [09:26] <lukasz56> ohh
#600 [09:26] <lukasz56> ok , wait then
#601 [09:26] <arjan28> ?
#602 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> [01:21:39] <SinZ> then type this into cmd: java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar minecraft.exe
#603 [09:26] <Calinou> arjan28, are you using any firewall? make sure to allow minecraft
#604 [09:26] <Calinou> or you can disable them. firewalls are pretty much not needed on your computer, as 99% of routers have firewalls
#605 [09:27] <SinZ> lukasz56: follow these steps: http://pastebin.com/HxFyqvj9
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#608 [09:27] <Guest> when i try to go to multiplayer, should there be a list of multiplayer servers or something? bc i get nothing...
#609 [09:27] <lukasz56> it says : unable to acces jar minecraft.exe
#610 [09:27] <lja> No you have to manually find server IP's
#611 [09:27] <DiskDaemon> Guest: That is your own personal list of minecraft servers. You add the ones that you want to connect to
#612 [09:27] <lja> google planetminecraft, it has server lists
#613 [09:27] <Calinou> ?? smp/servers
#614 [09:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#615 [09:27] <lukasz56> My minecraft is located on dekstop
#616 [09:27] <Calinou> lja, PMC sucks :P
#617 [09:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/45-minecraft-survival-servers/. Also, try the #smp channel.
#618 [09:27] <Guest> ok thx
#619 [09:28] <SinZ> lukasz56: what is the launcher file called for you, case sensitive.
#620 [09:28] <lja> Does anyone know when the bug is being fixed that makes entities such as chests and signs turn black?
#621 [09:28] <lukasz56> it's called Minecraft , in my games folder
#622 [09:28] <Calinou> lja, they don't turn black for me... it works fine
#623 [09:28] <SinZ> ok.
#624 [09:28] <Calinou> what graphics card? :P
#625 [09:28] <lja> google it
#626 [09:28] <lja> its not just me
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#628 [09:28] <Calinou> singleplayer or multiplayer?
#629 [09:28] <SinZ> java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar Minecraft.exe
#630 [09:28] <SinZ> try that
#631 [09:28] <lja> its been around since 1.8, it only affects some computers
#632 [09:28] <lukasz56> Me ?
#633 [09:28] <lja> like mine
#634 [09:28] <SinZ> yes
#635 [09:29] <lukasz56> ok wait
#636 [09:29] <lutzee> damn capitals :p
#637 [09:29] <Calinou> lja, which graphics card do you have?
#638 [09:29] <Calinou> and operating system?
#639 [09:29] <lja> some intergrated one
#640 [09:29] <lja> windows xp
#641 [09:29] <Poks> :D
#642 [09:29] <lja> but it does this on my laptop and desktop (both xp, both intel intergrated)
#643 [09:29] <SinZ> lja: mind doing a dxdiag of that?
#644 [09:29] <lja> ok
#645 [09:29] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Where abouts are you at. Is your command window open and located at the desktop?
#646 [09:29] <lukasz56> unable to acces jar minecraft .exe ..............................
#647 [09:30] <Necrodoom> <lukasz56> unable to acces jar minecraft .exe
#648 [09:30] <Necrodoom> wtf is this jar
#649 [09:30] <lukasz56> how to ope command prompt in start ?
#650 [09:30] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: You should be able to see the minecraft file by typing "dir minecraft.*" if you are in the right directory
#651 [09:30] <Calinou> lukasz56, download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar - put on desktop, shift+right click, open command line
#652 [09:30] <lukasz56> i start it in start
#653 [09:30] <Calinou> java -jar -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Xms1G -Xmx1G minecraft.jar
#654 [09:31] <lukasz56> okay
#655 [09:31] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Go back to that pastebin file, the instructions seem to be really clear
#656 [09:31] <lukasz56> okay
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#658 [09:31] <lja> My graphics card is ATI 9000
#659 [09:31] <Calinou> lja, also we aren't affiliated with mojang so we can't know
#660 [09:31] <lja> I know
#661 [09:31] <Calinou> integrated = doesn't work well with minecraft
#662 [09:31] <lja> but its a common problem, so I was wondering if anyone else knew about it
#663 [09:31] <Calinou> minecraft works better with opengl 2.0 at least, and dedicated graphic cards
#664 [09:31] <lja> theres a section about it on the wiki
#665 [09:31] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Use the windows explorer to navigate to the folder that contains your minecraft launcher file. You said that was the desktop. Right?
#666 [09:31] <lukasz56> okay , but i can't see that command ;ine
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#668 [09:32] <Necrodoom> double OP across the sky!
#669 [09:32] <lukasz56> my minecraft launcher is on dekstop
#670 [09:32] <Komadyret> Hi. I have encoutered an "pixelformat not accelrated" How do I fix it? What's causing it?
#671 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Okay. Use the windows explorer to navigate to the folder that contains your minecraft launcher file.
#672 [09:32] <lukasz56> ?
#673 [09:32] <lukasz56> how
#674 [09:32] <Calinou> Komadyret, update your graphic card drivers; do you know which graphics card you have?
#675 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Should I tell you how to find your windows explorer?
#676 [09:33] <lja> like you would if you was opening any other file luka
#677 [09:33] <lukasz56> i know
#678 [09:33] <lukasz56> i opened it
#679 [09:33] <Komadyret> haha, alright. Thanks Calinou :) Guess it's some intergated stuff. My kid wanted to play on my parents old Dell Pe3ntium4 computer ;)
#680 [09:34] <DiskDaemon> When you used windows explorer to select your desktop folder, shift-right-click on the background of the area that shows the files on your desktop, and open a command window
#681 [09:34] <lja> Even if the graphics were OK P4 would struggle to play mc
#682 [09:34] <Komadyret> I'll have a check and tell him if I can make it work or not :D
#683 [09:34] <Calinou> well, if you want to enjoy minecraft you need a dedicated graphics card
#684 [09:34] <Calinou> ?? gpu/intel
#685 [09:34] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#686 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Does a black window appear, showing something like: C:\Users\Name\Desktop\>
#687 [09:35] <Komadyret> Thanks folks. Helpfull as allways :)
#688 [09:35] <lukasz56> yes
#689 [09:35] <lukasz56> it show
#690 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Good. Run this command, and tell me what you see. "dir minecraft.*"
#691 [09:36] <lukasz56> can't find that line ....
#692 [09:36] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: What line?
#693 [09:36] <lja> luka you type it not look for it
#694 [09:36] <lukasz56> java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar Minecraft.exe - should i type this in command prompt ?
#695 [09:37] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: type in this command, and tell me what you see. "dir minecraft.*"
#696 [09:37] <lukasz56> what do you mean by dir.minecraft ?
#697 [09:37] <lja> open a command prompt
#698 [09:37] <lja> type it
#699 [09:37] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: I want to check first that you have the minecraft launcher in that directory, and whether it is minecraft.exe or minecraft.jar
#700 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: type in this command, and tell me what you see. "dir minecraft.*"
#701 [09:38] <lukasz56> It says unable to acces jar minecraft.exe
#702 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> Wrong command
#703 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: type in this command, and tell me what you see. "dir minecraft.*"
#704 [09:38] <lukasz56> oh
#705 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> ffs
#706 [09:38] <lja> thats what hes being telling you luka for a while now
#707 [09:39] <lukasz56> it says:
#708 [09:39] <lukasz56> Volume in drive c has no label
#709 [09:39] <lukasz56> then
#710 [09:39] <DiskDaemon> Just the file names will do
#711 [09:39] <lukasz56> At the end of text it says
#712 [09:39] <DiskDaemon> or any significant error message
#713 [09:39] <lukasz56> File not found
#714 [09:40] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Then you are not in the folder that contains minecraft. We need to get you there first
#715 [09:40] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: What does the command prompt say?
#716 [09:41] <lukasz56> Volume in drive c
#717 [09:41] <lukasz56> has no label
#718 [09:41] <DiskDaemon> That's not the command prompt.
#719 [09:41] <DiskDaemon> The command prompt is the text to the left of the flashing blinking cursor
#720 [09:41] <lukasz56> can i give you a picture ?
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#722 [09:41] <lukasz56> what i'm doing ?
#723 [09:41] <DylanCl> Hello
#724 [09:41] <DiskDaemon> sure
#725 [09:41] <DylanCl> When starting minecraft
#726 [09:41] <lukasz56> okay one minute
#727 [09:41] <DylanCl> i get this error http://pastebin.com/xmPSjC3a
#728 [09:42] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: Your graphics drivers need to be updated
#729 [09:42] <DylanCl> Can i use nvidia for that
#730 [09:42] <DiskDaemon> "problematic frame" is always out of date graphics drivers
#731 [09:42] <lukasz56> http://www.part.lt/perziura/f4836af242ad26bbc6997de7e73d58bb480.png
#732 [09:42] <DiskDaemon> ?? DylanCl win/dxdiag
#733 [09:43] <DylanCl> What?
#734 [09:43] <DylanCl> Can u explain me what to do
#735 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> ??> DylanCl win/dxdiag
#736 [09:43] <VoxelHead> DylanCl: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#737 [09:43] <VoxelHead> DylanCl: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#738 [09:43] <DylanCl> Ok
#739 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: You are in your own personal use directory. Get to your desktop.
#740 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> cd desktop
#741 [09:43] <lukasz56> okay
#742 [09:44] <Necrodoom> lukasz56: and use imageshack, please
#743 [09:44] <lukasz56> okay
#744 [09:44] <DiskDaemon> What does a directory listing of all minecraft files now show is in there
#745 [09:44] <lukasz56> only the launcher , the files are in roaming , appdata
#746 [09:44] <DiskDaemon> Good. Now type this into the black window: java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar minecraft.exe
#747 [09:45] <lukasz56> oh wait so i click shift + right click open command line ?
#748 [09:45] <DylanCl> http://pastebin.com/B8PqVCfu
#749 [09:45] <DiskDaemon> minecraft.exe is the launcher.
#750 [09:45] <DylanCl> There you go
#751 [09:45] <lukasz56> oh wait so i click shift + right click open command line ?
#752 [09:45] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: No, shift-right-click was earlier on, which you messed up on
#753 [09:45] <lukasz56> oh
#754 [09:45] <lukasz56> so now i will need to do ?
#755 [09:45] <DylanCl> Disk, is that good?
#756 [09:45] <Calinou> wow this is a pretty old graphic card, DylanCl
#757 [09:46] <Calinou> it will not run minecraft playably, unless you use "tiny" render distance
#758 [09:46] <DiskDaemon> Version 6.14 drivers. That's ancient. I'll see where better ones are found from
#759 [09:46] <DylanCl> Well
#760 [09:46] <DylanCl> I bought this computer for 90 dollars
#761 [09:46] <DylanCl> Works like a charm
#762 [09:46] <lukasz56> so now i will need to do ? type into cmd that what you said ?
#763 [09:46] <DylanCl> Except for games
#764 [09:47] <DylanCl> DO i just need to buy an new graphics card?
#765 [09:47] <DylanCl> Or can i find one on the web
#766 [09:47] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Now type this into the black window: java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar minecraft.exe
#767 [09:47] <lukasz56> okay
#768 [09:47] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: I'll see what I can find
#769 [09:47] <DiskDaemon> ??> DylanCl gpu/amd
#770 [09:47] <VoxelHead> DylanCl: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#771 [09:47] <Calinou> DylanCl, if you want to play minecraft playably... you'll probably need a better graphics card
#772 [09:48] <lukasz56> UNABLE TO ACCESS TO JAR FILE MINECRAFT.EXE
#773 [09:48] <lukasz56> it says
#774 [09:48] <Calinou> nvidia graphic cards are better than AMD graphic cards, especially for minecraft-style games
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#776 [09:48] <lukasz56> DiskDaemon Do You Have Skype ?
#777 [09:48] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Yes, and no I don't use it.
#778 [09:48] <DylanCl> Disk
#779 [09:48] <DylanCl> Can u please search for me?
#780 [09:48] <Kamal> Why Capitalize Every First Letter ?
#781 [09:48] <Kamal> You*
#782 [09:48] <DylanCl> I really dont know how to search
#783 [09:48] <DylanCl> or what to search
#784 [09:49] <Kamal> don't*
#785 [09:49] <lukasz56> maybe u can watch with team wiever ?
#786 [09:49] <Kamal> you*
#787 [09:49] <Kamal> teamviewer*
#788 [09:49] <Calinou> DylanCl, however if you want to buy a graphic card, make sure you have a PCI-E slot
#789 [09:49] <Calinou> your current graphics card is AGP
#790 [09:49] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: I am in New Zealand where every byte of data that I transfer up and down to the internet must be paid for, by the mebabyte.
#791 [09:49] <lukasz56> ohh that sucks
#792 [09:49] <DylanCl> Cal
#793 [09:50] <DylanCl> I have no clue where u are talking about :P
#794 [09:50] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: Do you feel like holding lukasz56's hand on this via a video feed?
#795 [09:50] <lukasz56> i don't know what to do it every time says can't acces file jar minecraft.exe
#796 [09:50] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: I'll see what I can find
#797 [09:50] <DylanCl> Disk
#798 [09:50] <DylanCl> I can also download the driver autodetect
#799 [09:50] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, nope
#800 [09:50] <DylanCl> Because i see u are busy
#801 [09:50] <Calinou> video feed = teamviewer...?
#802 [09:50] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: would you mind?
#803 [09:50] <Calinou> http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/CatalystAGPHotfix.aspx < this maybe, I'm not sure
#804 [09:51] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, what do you mean by video feed?
#805 [09:51] <Kamal> you*
#806 [09:51] <lukasz56> So Disk Daemon What I Need To Do I Really Don't Know :(
#807 [09:51] <DylanCl> I found one! :D
#808 [09:51] <DylanCl> Well, amd found one
#809 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Please wait, we're deciding
#810 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: good one
#811 [09:51] <lukasz56> okay
#812 [09:51] <lja> what is lukas problem?
#813 [09:52] <lukasz56> can't connect to minecraft.net ...
#814 [09:52] <lukasz56> launcher
#815 [09:52] <DylanCl> Radon 9200 Series
#816 [09:52] <DylanCl> Is that good enough?
#817 [09:52] <Calinou> DylanCl, yes
#818 [09:52] <DiskDaemon> lja: He can't connect to minecraft.net, and cannot control his computer well enough to perform basic command prompt tasks
#819 [09:52] <DylanCl> YAY! :D
#820 [09:52] <DylanCl> Thanks guys
#821 [09:52] <lukasz56> as DiskDaemon Said
#822 [09:52] <DiskDaemon> We're wanting tos ee if starting java without IPv6 preference with the launcher resolves the issue
#823 [09:52] <lja> well
#824 [09:52] <Calinou> no problem DylanCl
#825 [09:52] <DylanCl> Really, really helped me out
#826 [09:53] <lja> firewall?
#827 [09:53] <DylanCl> <3 Cal and DIsk
#828 [09:53] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: you're welcome
#829 [09:53] <lukasz56> Disk Daemon So I Need To Wait Now ?
#830 [09:53] <Calinou> lukasz56, let me reformulate everything
#831 [09:53] <lja> Guys, maybe his firewall is blocking it
#832 [09:53] <Calinou> ^ also, this
#833 [09:53] <lukasz56> No Ilja
#834 [09:54] <Calinou> lukasz56, 1) download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#835 [09:54] <DylanCl> Hmm, but with that graphics card
#836 [09:54] <DylanCl> Will it be laggy?
#837 [09:54] <Calinou> 2) put it on the desktop; hold Shift, do a right click, click "open command line here"
#838 [09:54] <lukasz56> Downloaded it , Run /
#839 [09:54] <Calinou> DylanCl, yes, also please don't mix "lag" and "low FPS"
#840 [09:54] <lukasz56> ok wait
#841 [09:54] <Calinou> do a right click on the DESKTOP, not minecraft.jar!!
#842 [09:54] <Calinou> very important
#843 [09:54] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: Sadly yes. A slow graphics card is hard to improve on without replacing some hardware
#844 [09:55] <Calinou> 3) in command line type this:
#845 [09:55] <DylanCl> Its better then nothing
#846 [09:55] <DylanCl> i guess
#847 [09:55] <Calinou> java -jar -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Xms1G -Xmx1G minecraft.jar
#848 [09:55] <lja> DiskDaeomon: How about asking him to add the IP for minecraft.net to his HOSTS file?
#849 [09:55] <Calinou> DylanCl, better than using software rendering! :D
#850 [09:55] <lja> *Daemon
#851 [09:55] <Calinou> minecraft doesn't have software rendering anyway :*
#852 [09:55] <DylanCl> True
#853 [09:55] <DiskDaemon> lja: hosts has been pasted to pastebin and checked
#854 [09:55] <DylanCl> Hmm
#855 [09:56] <DylanCl> I want to overclock my pc
#856 [09:56] <DylanCl> But heat is a problem
#857 [09:56] <lja> But have has he actually added minecraft.net to it?
#858 [09:56] <lja> *has
#859 [09:56] <Calinou> DylanCl, avoid overclocking, it reduces hardware lifetime and increases electircity usage
#860 [09:56] <Calinou> I never overclock personally
#861 [09:56] <DiskDaemon> overclocking only gives around a 5% improvement in many situations. It's not worth it
#862 [09:56] <DylanCl> I know
#863 [09:56] <DylanCl> I overclocked a pc once
#864 [09:56] <DylanCl> I needed to throw it away
#865 [09:56] <DylanCl> It overheated
#866 [09:56] <DylanCl> It was a damn nice computer, could run minecraft smoothly
#867 [09:57] <Calinou> :|
#868 [09:57] <DylanCl> But i was stupid and wanted to overclock
#869 [09:57] <DylanCl> Ah well
#870 [09:57] <lja> Wow, not many around that run is smoothyl
#871 [09:57] <lja> smoothly
#872 [09:57] <DiskDaemon> lja: His hosts file - http://pastebin.com/AqrH6iUv
#873 [09:57] <Calinou> lja, I have a computer that runs MC smoothly, want the specs? :P
#874 [09:57] <lja> sure
#875 [09:57] <DylanCl> i7
#876 [09:57] <DylanCl> :P
#877 [09:58] <DylanCl> The computer i overclocked was an i7
#878 [09:58] <DylanCl> I could run shaders mod
#879 [09:58] <DylanCl> :(
#880 [09:58] <lja> Disk, there isn't minecraft.net in there, that may help
#881 [09:58] <DiskDaemon> No, adding minecraft to the hosts file doesn't help. It hinders.
#882 [09:58] <Calinou> lja, http://pastebin.com/xFD2upMh
#883 [09:58] <Calinou> linux-style name FTW
#884 [09:58] <Calinou> beat that, anyway
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#886 [09:59] <lukasz56> DiskDaemon
#887 [09:59] <DiskDaemon> hello
#888 [09:59] <lukasz56> It says that can't acces to jar file
#889 [09:59] <lukasz56> i did what you say
#890 [09:59] <Calinou> lukasz56, STILL doesn't work?
#891 [09:59] <lukasz56> said*
#892 [09:59] <lukasz56> nope
#893 [09:59] <Calinou> did you put minecraft.jar on desktop and opened command line on desktop?
#894 [09:59] <lukasz56> yes
#895 [09:59] <Calinou> it MUST work, or you did something wrong.
#896 [10:00] <Calinou> lukasz56, let me check with teamviewer then?
#897 [10:00] <lukasz56> ok
#898 [10:00] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Before doing that, you still need to confirm that the minecraft file is in the same directory that you are running the command
#899 [10:00] <lja> Calinou, what do you mean linux stlye name? your running windows
#900 [10:00] <lja> oh, the host name?
#901 [10:00] <lja> lol
#902 [10:00] <Calinou> lja, "calinou-desktop" :P
#903 [10:00] <lukasz56> calinou
#904 [10:00] <Calinou> usually, people call their computer "mainuser-desktop/laptop" on linux
#905 [10:00] <lukasz56> wait i will give you pass and login
#906 [10:00] <lja> my actual desktop is called "lja-debian"
#907 [10:00] <Calinou> or at least, ubuntu does it automatically like this
#908 [10:00] <lja> yes I know
#909 [10:00] <Calinou> lukasz56, private message
#910 [10:00] <Calinou> /msg Calinou <info here>
#911 [10:01] <lukasz56> ook wiat
#912 [10:01] <lukasz56> ok wait
#913 [10:02] <lja> you have 12gb ram? nice
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#915 [10:02] <DylanCl> Hmm
#916 [10:02] <DylanCl> Minecraft still does not work
#917 [10:02] <Calinou> lja, yeah... :P
#918 [10:02] <Calinou> DylanCl, any error message?
#919 [10:02] <DylanCl> I'll send u the error message
#920 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> A different issue now?
#921 [10:03] <DiskDaemon> righto\
#922 [10:03] <DylanCl> http://pastebin.com/Q8TTsgbg
#923 [10:03] <Calinou> okay lukasz56 let me check
#924 [10:04] <lja> I wasn't aware so many people had issues opening minecraft
#925 [10:04] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: Can you do a new dxdiag dump for us?
#926 [10:04] <DylanCl> Sure
#927 [10:04] <DiskDaemon> lja: It's ramped up since the internet went to IPv6 on 6 June
#928 [10:04] <Calinou> lukasz56, log in?
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#930 [10:05] <DiskDaemon> Old computer, IPv6, and antivirus troubles. That seems to be the common lot.
#931 [10:05] <lja> I dont see how ipv6 will break it, isn't mojang.net still ipv4?
#932 [10:05] <DylanCl> http://pastebin.com/s0TZu3wz
#933 [10:05] <DylanCl> dxdiag
#934 [10:05] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, heh, just opened minecraft correctly by command line; PEBCAK spotted ;)
#935 [10:05] <DiskDaemon> lja: Java 7 prefers to use IPv6 when the computer system supports it. minecraft.net isn't on IPv6 yet. That's an issue.
#936 [10:05] <Calinou> lja, mojang.com and minecraft.net, not mojang.net :P
#937 [10:06] <DiskDaemon> hurrah
#938 [10:06] <lja> I see
#939 [10:06] <niels_> can I ask what?
#940 [10:06] <lja> ?
#941 [10:06] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: The graphics driver you have installed is still from 2006. That's not recent enough to fix the problem.
#942 [10:07] <DylanCl> Can u search one for me then?
#943 [10:07] <DylanCl> I used autosearch thingy
#944 [10:07] <DiskDaemon> I'll see what I can find
#945 [10:07] <DylanCl> Thanks
#946 [10:07] <lja> There may not even be a newer driver, you know what graphics card manufacturers are like
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#948 [10:09] <lja> Anyone tried tekkit?
#949 [10:09] <DiskDaemon> no thanks
#950 [10:09] <lja> Dont like?
#951 [10:09] <DiskDaemon> no time
#952 [10:10] <lja> Oh
#953 [10:10] <lja> its pretty good
#954 [10:10] <DylanCl> I played it$
#955 [10:10] <DylanCl> it*
#956 [10:10] <lja> still learning
#957 [10:10] <lja> Theres a bug in it though
#958 [10:11] <lja> grass grows under water -.-
#959 [10:11] <lukasz56> Calinou look
#960 [10:11] <niels_> minecraft is lagging on , Mobile Intel (R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family.fps is 20-40 and I use optifinemod, and everything on low and put fast, and a month ago was no time I had not even optifinemod I have the latest driver geinstaleerd, what should I do?
#961 [10:11] <Calinou> k
#962 [10:12] <Calinou> niels_, slow graphic card; the main problem
#963 [10:12] <Calinou> also: multiplayer is faster
#964 [10:12] <lja> Call that lagging? My average is 17 fps
#965 [10:12] <Calinou> lag != low fps
#966 [10:12] <lja> are you using windows?
#967 [10:13] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, it stil doesn't work
#968 [10:13] <lja> Re-installing windows every few months really helps, windows gets bogged down with crap over time
#969 [10:13] <Calinou> ^ don't
#970 [10:13] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: It seems that no mor recent graphics drivers exist for your RADEON 9200 SE graphics card.
#971 [10:13] <Calinou> contrary to common belief, just don't
#972 [10:14] <lja> dont what?
#973 [10:14] <Calinou> only pirates do so. -_-
#974 [10:14] <tikker> reinstall windows
#975 [10:14] <lja> why ?
#976 [10:14] <Calinou> just don't install bloatware
#977 [10:14] <tikker> ^that
#978 [10:14] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: Ooh, hang on
#979 [10:14] <DylanCl> k
#980 [10:14] <lja> What? How do only pirates reinstall windows?
#981 [10:14] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: try at http://www.driveridentifier.com/scan/download.php?item_id=40862726&scanid=DDD8F179EE22479FA8B419AC5A6A5405&hardware_id=PCI%5CVEN_1002%26DEV_5964%26SUBSYS_7C26174B
#982 [10:14] <Calinou> because, 99% of windows installations are OEM
#983 [10:14] <lja> Lol
#984 [10:14] <Calinou> and you need a windows CD to reinstall
#985 [10:14] <lja> Mine is a Site License
#986 [10:15] <lja> one key for a few hundred machines
#987 [10:15] <lja> and not pirate
#988 [10:15] <DylanCl> Do i just need to press download? DiskDaemon?
#989 [10:15] <lukasz56> Calinou so what now ? i had that issue on win8 , and now on win 7 , year ago minecraft worked perfect
#990 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: That's what it looks like
#991 [10:16] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: June 6 changed all of that
#992 [10:16] <niels_> A month ago it was not all that is strange, and oh yes skyrim MW3 and I can just play, I think it is not the video card, but you still have more sense, sorry for the sluggish response I use google translator.
#993 [10:16] <lukasz56> My friend tryied to log on my acc and for him worked OK
#994 [10:16] <Calinou> lukasz56, hold on
#995 [10:16] <DylanCl> http://www.driveridentifier.com/scan/desktop.php?scanid=D1ED67CA55B14830B77B2C4055B1E686
#996 [10:16] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: On your same computer?
#997 [10:16] <DylanCl> it just gave me this site
#998 [10:16] <lja> Wait what? are you saying that just your account dosent log you in?
#999 [10:17] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: Do you see the download button?
#1000 [10:17] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, he is getting SSLHandshakeException
#1001 [10:17] <tikker> brb, reboot
#1002 [10:17] <Calinou> and "can't connect minecraft.net" in the launcher
#1003 [10:17] <DylanCl> No download button for me
#1004 [10:17] <DylanCl> No download button for me
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#1006 [10:17] <DiskDaemon> It's a bloody big green button that has the work DOWNLOAD on it. You may have to scroll down
#1007 [10:17] <DiskDaemon> No, don't click that button
#1008 [10:17] <DiskDaemon> It's a trap!
#1009 [10:18] <Calinou> it's a tarp!
#1010 [10:18] <DylanCl> lol
#1011 [10:18] <DylanCl> HAAAAX
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#1013 [10:18] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, do you know the solution to this problem?
#1014 [10:18] <DylanCl> What did it do?
#1015 [10:18] <DiskDaemon> It seems to be the smaller download button below it
#1016 [10:18] <lja> Theres an ad that shows big download buttons
#1017 [10:18] <lja> its a bastard
#1018 [10:18] <lja> gets lots of people
#1019 [10:18] <Calinou> protip: adblock
#1020 [10:18] <DylanCl> I got adblock
#1021 [10:18] <DylanCl> :P
#1022 [10:19] <Calinou> :D
#1023 [10:19] <DylanCl> Well
#1024 [10:19] <DylanCl> No minecraft for me on this computer
#1025 [10:19] <DylanCl> Well, i still got a laptop where i can play it on
#1026 [10:19] <lja> ?
#1027 [10:19] <DylanCl> but its laggy
#1028 [10:20] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: But that download icon on the page, the harddrive with a green arrow pointing down above it, that seems to be the driver that you need
#1029 [10:20] <DylanCl> I clicked that
#1030 [10:20] <lukasz56> DiskDaemon My Friend Tryied On His PC
#1031 [10:20] <DylanCl> And then got redirected to the site i gave u
#1032 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: His PC is a different environment from yours. All you'll confirm is that your minecraft account is valid. Nothing else.
#1033 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: screenshot?
#1034 [10:21] <DylanCl> http://www.driveridentifier.com/scan/desktop.php?scanid=D1ED67CA55B14830B77B2C4055B1E686
#1035 [10:21] <DylanCl> it sent me to this site
#1036 [10:21] <DylanCl> ...
#1037 [10:21] <DylanCl> Or do u want an screen from the program
#1038 [10:22] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: no, don't worry about that
#1039 [10:22] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, do you know how to fix SSLHandshakeException?
#1040 [10:22] <lja> Has anyone asked him to just get the JAR file and make a batch file with the parameters in it?
#1041 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> I haven't seen that one before
#1042 [10:23] <lja> Might work
#1043 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> lja: The batch file is useless if w can't confirm that it actually solves his problem
#1044 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> He's just get exactly the same issue as when running it with the same parameters from the command line
#1045 [10:24] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: Now we know that rio_video.exe version 8.201.0.0 is what you need. The hunt goes on
#1046 [10:24] <DylanCl> :P
#1047 [10:24] <lja> Hmm
#1048 [10:24] <lja> i'd still try it
#1049 [10:24] <lja> i'd still try it
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#1051 [10:25] <DiskDaemon> lja: What possible benefit is there, using a batch file to run a command that has been proven to already be ineffective/
#1052 [10:26] <lja> I didnt know it was ineffective, I only joined the channel after he started talking about the problem
#1053 [10:26] <Calinou> lukasz56, I'll go check around in the java settings, wait
#1054 [10:26] <DiskDaemon> lja: Using the command-line command on his system resulted in the SSLHandshakeException issue
#1055 [10:27] <lukasz56> ok
#1056 [10:27] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: Try here http://prod.mypcdrivers.com/results/download_file.php?url=ftp%3A%2F%2Fftp.download.packardbell.com%2FDESKTOP%2FiMedia+%282005-2007%29%2FDriver%2FXp%2FRio_Video.exe&hardware_id=PCI%5CVEN_1002%26DEV_5941&driver_inf_file_id=506361&scanid=B2F4F96C63614CE9AE60B6F105DC37D0
#1057 [10:28] <Calinou> lukasz56, I don't know - hang around in this channel and repeat your question from time to time (every 30 minutes or so)
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#1059 [10:28] <Calinou> you'll get help one day :)
#1060 [10:28] <lukasz56> okay
#1061 [10:28] <lja> Ask it on the mc forums too
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#1063 [10:28] <lja> maybe someone there has had the same problem
#1064 [10:28] <Johannes> Hello
#1065 [10:28] <lja> hi
#1066 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#1067 [10:29] <Johannes> I have a problem
#1068 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> ask away
#1069 [10:29] <lukasz56> Callinou so i can exit the team viewer ?
#1070 [10:29] <Johannes> I had bought the minecraft game for a friend but he is after that not very nice to me
#1071 [10:29] <Calinou> lukasz56, yeha
#1072 [10:29] <Calinou> yeah*
#1073 [10:29] <Johannes> i have the pay# and the account name
#1074 [10:29] <Calinou> lukasz56, as lja said you can ask on the minecraft forums too.
#1075 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: I see that the antivirus may be responsible for the ssl issue http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1266137-solved-can-not-log-in-cant-connect-to-minecraftnet/
#1076 [10:29] <Johannes> and I wanted to close his account
#1077 [10:29] <lukasz56> Okay i will try
#1078 [10:29] <Calinou> lukasz56, see what DiskDaemon said
#1079 [10:30] <Calinou> try to disable your AV temporarily
#1080 [10:30] <Johannes> how can i do that?
#1081 [10:30] <lukasz56> okayt
#1082 [10:30] <lja> Johannes that is legally shaky ground
#1083 [10:30] <Calinou> (as long as you don't go to sloppy sites, it will be fine)
#1084 [10:30] <lukasz56> okay
#1085 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> Johannes: Nobody here works for Mojang. We are all community volunteers. Now, how can we help?
#1086 [10:30] <lja> You say you paid for it?
#1087 [10:30] <Johannes> yes how can i contact mojang?
#1088 [10:30] <Calinou> lukasz56, then run minecraft normally and it should work. ;)
#1089 [10:30] <Calinou> I hope
#1090 [10:30] <lja> Mojang wont listen to someone complaining about falling out with their friend, in reality
#1091 [10:30] <lja> they have other things
#1092 [10:30] <lukasz56> okay i will try , thanks Calinou .
#1093 [10:31] <Johannes> I wanted to close a account that i had paid
#1094 [10:31] <Johannes> :D
#1095 [10:31] <lja> go on minecraft.net
#1096 [10:31] <lja> login
#1097 [10:31] <Johannes> thats the problem
#1098 [10:31] <Johannes> he changed the mail and password
#1099 [10:31] <DiskDaemon> Johannes: To the best or our knowledge, accounts remain open since they have been paid for.
#1100 [10:31] <lja> oh
#1101 [10:32] <lja> if hes changed the mail
#1102 [10:32] <lja> then
#1103 [10:32] <lja> you cant do anything
#1104 [10:32] <Johannes> ;(
#1105 [10:32] <DiskDaemon> Johannes: If your minecraft account has been hacked, and you no longer have control of it, then there are things that can be done
#1106 [10:33] <Calinou> lukasz56, does it work now?
#1107 [10:33] <Johannes> what thinks?
#1108 [10:33] <DylanCl> DiskDaemon , http://www.mypcdrivers.com/results/desktop.php?scanid=293a326ba984ecae99fcacdcf8f15fba
#1109 [10:33] <DiskDaemon> wat?
#1110 [10:33] <lja> Daemon, he gave the account to a friend who then fell out with him
#1111 [10:33] <DylanCl> that is the site i gotr
#1112 [10:33] <lja> his password hasn't been cracked
#1113 [10:33] <DylanCl> from the mypcdrivers scan
#1114 [10:33] <lukasz56> i'm trying
#1115 [10:33] <lukasz56> i will pm you
#1116 [10:33] <lukasz56> if it works or no
#1117 [10:33] <Johannes> DiskDaemon what can I do?
#1118 [10:34] <Calinou> Johannes, not much then, it is your responsability
#1119 [10:34] <DiskDaemon> Johannes: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1120 [10:34] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: When I clicked on the ftp link, the file started downloading. What happened with you?
#1121 [10:34] <DiskDaemon> http://prod.mypcdrivers.com/results/download_file.php?url=ftp%3A%2F%2Fftp.download.packardbell.com%2FDESKTOP%2FiMedia+%282005-2007%29%2FDriver%2FXp%2FRio_Video.exe&hardware_id=PCI%5CVEN_1002%26DEV_5941&driver_inf_file_id=506361&scanid=B2F4F96C63614CE9AE60B6F105DC37D0
#1122 [10:34] <lukasz56> No Calinou it doesn't work
#1123 [10:34] <Johannes> okey thank you
#1124 [10:34] <DiskDaemon> The file location - ftp://ftp.download.packardbell.com/DESKTOP/iMedia%20(2005-2007)/Driver/Xp/Rio_Video.exe
#1125 [10:34] <lukasz56> i turned it off still nothing
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#1127 [10:34] <Calinou> :/
#1128 [10:34] <DylanCl> It did nothing
#1129 [10:34] <Calinou> lukasz56, check your firewall, too?
#1130 [10:35] <Calinou> (windows's firewall: disable it)
#1131 [10:35] <lukasz56> okay
#1132 [10:35] <DiskDaemon> DylanCl: It did nothing when you try to download that ftp file?
#1133 [10:35] <DiskDaemon> That is the ftp file that the page links to, for your graphics driver
#1134 [10:35] <DylanCl> Hmm
#1135 [10:35] <DylanCl> Its loading
#1136 [10:35] <lukasz56> NOPE , Still
#1137 [10:36] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: I hate to say this, but I don't think that you can be helped
#1138 [10:36] <lukasz56> still nothing :9
#1139 [10:36] <Calinou> lukasz56, try rebooting your computer? it seems "stupid", but it already worked (however I've never seen that kind of error)
#1140 [10:36] <DylanCl> oh
#1141 [10:36] <DylanCl> its downlaodin now
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#1143 [10:36] <lukasz56> Okay
#1144 [10:37] <lukasz56> ... But Maybe i will be asking in this community maybe someone will know how to fix that ssl handshake exception ... :(
#1145 [10:37] <lja> Have you tried
#1146 [10:37] <lja> offline mod
#1147 [10:37] <lukasz56> Me ?
#1148 [10:37] <lja> yes
#1149 [10:37] <lja> *offline mode
#1150 [10:37] <lukasz56> U mean play offline ?
#1151 [10:37] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: My readings show that people solve that issue by disabling their antivirus program
#1152 [10:38] <lukasz56> for me it doesn't work
#1153 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: I hate to say this, but I don't think that you can be helped
#1154 [10:38] <lukasz56> but ilja offline works ok
#1155 [10:38] <lja> hmm
#1156 [10:38] <lukasz56> Okay , then ...
#1157 [10:39] <lukasz56> but i will try
#1158 [10:39] <lukasz56> to do something
#1159 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> There are other articles about the SSLHandshakeException to be found at https://www.google.co.nz/search?sugexp=chrome,mod=17&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=minecraft+sslhandshakeexception#hl=en&safe=off&q=+site:minecraftforum.net+minecraft+sslhandshakeexception&sa=X&ei=ecnpT9WVGMzHmQW044yLDg&ved=0CFwQrQIwAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=a735b722a70f3a9c&biw=1366&bih=643
#1160 [10:40] <lukasz56> I Will Read Those Articles
#1161 [10:40] * DiskDaemon reads that with lead coffin doors slamming after each word
#1161 [10:41] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: What will help is to see the full error report
#1162 [10:42] <DiskDaemon> For example, with this report, that SSLHandshakeException was caused by having the wrong date/time on the computer http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1201785-ssl-handshake-exception/
#1163 [10:42] <lukasz56> The Date In My Computer Is Ok
#1164 [10:42] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: But, only by examining the evidence of your error report, can we determine the issue and advise on steps to resolve it
#1165 [10:43] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: We need more information about the problem in order to be able to help you
#1166 [10:44] <lukasz56> Mmhm
#1167 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> You can use this mcerror program to help you get an error log and upload it for us to see https://github.com/medsouz/MinecraftError/downloads
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#1169 [10:46] <langkid1> is someone trying to play MC on microcore linux?
#1170 [10:46] * langkid1 tried; it runs into SSL errors and OpenGL errors
#1170 [10:47] <DiskDaemon> langkid1: Can we see the error log?
#1171 [10:47] * langkid1 boots up the VM
#1171 [10:47] <DiskDaemon> VM? Oh no.
#1172 [10:47] <langkid1> DiskDaemon, ok I can SWITCH to Microcore on a flash drive
#1173 [10:47] <langkid1> ZNC will catch everything between shutdown and microcore boot
#1174 [10:47] <DiskDaemon> Commonly we've found that VM's result in issues due to not having advanced access to graphics capabilities
#1175 [10:48] <langkid1> DiskDaemon, so, be right back
#1176 [10:48] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: How're you doing there?
#1177 [10:48] <lukasz56> i download that mcerror
#1178 [10:49] <DiskDaemon> right, and what's the next step after that
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#1182 [10:52] <Ffish> I just had a quick question about the Xbox 360 edition. Are updates applied to already created worlds? Like, say fortresses, when they're introduced, will they spawn in a world I already have going now?
#1183 [10:52] <DiskDaemon> No, they won't. You
#1184 [10:52] <DiskDaemon> You'll have to generate a new world for those to appear
#1185 [10:52] <Ffish> Really? That sucks...
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#1187 [10:53] <langkid1> DiskDaemon, I'm back, checking for existence of MC files now
#1188 [10:54] <DiskDaemon> With the PC version such updates appear in newly generated chunks, as you explore new areas. xbox only has a 1024x1024 block world, which is just 64 square chunks
#1189 [10:54] <viveleroi> I started a server with a snapshot and no matter what, I had very consistent block lag. 1 out 4 blocks would actually break when hit. I have a very capable server - but when when we moved to bukkit with the exact same config - no problems. Is this bugs in the snapshot, or something I could change
#1190 [10:54] <DiskDaemon> yes, the snapshots are buddy. don't rely on them until actual release
#1191 [10:55] <DiskDaemon> s/dd/gg
#1192 [10:55] <langkid1> :)
#1193 [10:55] <lukasz56> Checking for Minecraft launcher (minecrafterr.jar) in C:\Users\Shark\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\minecrafterr.jar Error: Could not find launcher! Downloading from Minecraft.net... Download failed... Download successful! Minecraft launcher found! Starting launcher...
#1194 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Don't paste that in here
#1195 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> lukasz56: Wait for the launched minecraft to have its problem, close minecraft, then use the mcerror program to paste the log
#1196 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> and let us know to which website url it pasted it to
#1197 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> and let us know to which website url it pasted it to
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#1201 [11:01] <langkid1> DiskDaemon, http://pastebin.com/SDrpD965
#1202 [11:01] <langkid1> That's from when the launcher is started to when it goes to "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1203 [11:02] <DiskDaemon> Now that's one I haven't seen before - "the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty"
#1204 [11:02] <langkid1> :o
#1205 [11:02] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps this will help http://notes.ericjiang.com/posts/583
#1206 [11:03] <sandbox_builder> I need help launching Minecraft. When I launch it it comes up with a gray screen that has some HTML kinda text in it, and when I put in my username/ password, it immeditaly says "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1207 [11:03] <Necrodoom> sandbox_builder: do you have firewall or antivirus enabled?
#1208 [11:03] <DiskDaemon> sandbox_builder: This thread solves that problem http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#1209 [11:04] <sandbox_builder> I have completly disabled my firewall and still nothing
#1210 [11:04] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: It's a picture-perfect IPv6 issue
#1211 [11:04] <Necrodoom> nv,
#1212 [11:04] <langkid1> :O
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#1214 [11:06] <langkid1> DiskDaemon, well, the tinycore package list doesn't have "ca-certificates-java" in it, but I expected it not to :(
#1215 [11:07] <langkid1> I have no linux friends, so... anyone got certs to give me?
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#1217 [11:11] <Denaton> Cant get my minecraft sound to work
#1218 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> Are the speakers plugged in and powered on?
#1219 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> Is the mute button unmuted?
#1220 [11:11] <Denaton> I was just lissen to music
#1221 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> getting the obvious ones out of the way :)
#1222 [11:12] <Denaton> i figure
#1223 [11:12] <DiskDaemon> What doesn't work with the sound? Does it sound scratchy, or intermittant?
#1224 [11:12] <Denaton> No sound at all
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#1226 [11:13] <DiskDaemon> What is in this folder? %appdata%/.minecraft/resources/sound/step
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#1228 [11:14] <Denaton> Useing MiltiMC -_- There ware no sound in the map
#1229 [11:14] <DiskDaemon> I don't follow, what is miltiMC?
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#1231 [11:15] <StrawHatPhi> I purchased Minecraft, never received it.
#1232 [11:15] <Denaton> Humm, hard to explain but its make so you can have several Minecraft folders and mod them with out messing it up
#1233 [11:15] <DiskDaemon> StrawHatPhiL How long ago?
#1234 [11:15] <StrawHatPhi> Type of shit is this..
#1235 [11:15] <StrawHatPhi> Is there customer service I can call..
#1236 [11:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> StrawHatPhi attitude
#1237 [11:15] <VoxelHead> StrawHatPhi: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1238 [11:15] <VoxelHead> StrawHatPhi: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1239 [11:15] <Denaton> Everyone should use MultiMC since its so good
#1240 [11:16] <StrawHatPhi> Well, what should I do then>
#1241 [11:16] <DiskDaemon> Denaton: Does a vanilla install of Minecraft fix the issue?
#1242 [11:16] <StrawHatPhi> ?*
#1243 [11:16] <DiskDaemon> How long ago did you purchase it?
#1244 [11:16] <Denaton> Gonna take the sound from the original
#1245 [11:16] <Necrodoom> StrawHatPhi: email mojang
#1246 [11:16] <StrawHatPhi> 2 days ago.
#1247 [11:16] <StrawHatPhi> I did it twice.
#1248 [11:16] <DiskDaemon> StrawHatPhi: It can take from 3 to 5 days, depending on the bank
#1249 [11:17] <StrawHatPhi> I used a Mastercard.
#1250 [11:17] <StrawHatPhi> Alright then, 3-5 days?
#1251 [11:17] <DiskDaemon> StrawHatPhi: I'll get some information for you
#1252 [11:17] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1253 [11:17] <StrawHatPhi> Thank you, and I'm sorry for the attitude. Just mad that my baby brother didn't receive his account.
#1254 [11:18] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: i wonder why you dont have these hotkeyed yet
#1255 [11:18] <DiskDaemon> StrawHatPhi: When you check your bank account, does it show that the payment occurred?
#1256 [11:18] <StrawHatPhi> No sir.
#1257 [11:18] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: laziness
#1258 [11:18] <sandbox_builder> so I followed that post to the letter and still nothing. If it would help I can post the text that appears when I open the launcher
#1259 [11:18] <StrawHatPhi> The 1st attempt it said "Purchase complete."
#1260 [11:18] <DiskDaemon> StrawHatPhi: Okay. If you haven't paid for it, Mojang can't do anything for you.
#1261 [11:18] <StrawHatPhi> The second attempt, it also said purchase complete.
#1262 [11:19] <DiskDaemon> And yet 3 days later your account still hasn't shown any evidence of having paid?
#1263 [11:19] <StrawHatPhi> No sir.
#1264 [11:20] <DiskDaemon> That is odd.
#1265 [11:20] <StrawHatPhi> On the page where it says "Purchase complete." It shows a bunch of letters.
#1266 [11:20] <StrawHatPhi> Sadly, I didn't save it.
#1267 [11:20] <DiskDaemon> It's Moneybookers that handles the credit card transactions for Mojang. I suggest that you get in touch with them, to find out what was going on.
#1268 [11:20] <StrawHatPhi> I'm guessing it's the order number.
#1269 [11:21] <computerdude5000> really i thought it was paypal
#1270 [11:21] <StrawHatPhi> I'm not familiar with Moneybookers, but how can I contact them?
#1271 [11:21] <DiskDaemon> Via their website?
#1272 [11:21] <computerdude5000> ^^
#1273 [11:21] <Denaton> I could her my self taking fall damage but no walk sound
#1274 [11:21] <langkid1> moneh
#1275 [11:22] <StrawHatPhi> This is day two, and you said I have to wait 3-5 days?
#1276 [11:22] <DiskDaemon> Your bank doesn't seem to show any record of the transaction, and Mojang cannot do anything until they receive money, so the agents processing the credit card payment are the only ones left. That's Moneybookers
#1277 [11:22] * langkid1 hopes you didn't submit that transaction three times!
#1277 [11:22] <StrawHatPhi> I did it, twice..
#1278 [11:22] <StrawHatPhi> -_-"
#1279 [11:23] <DiskDaemon> langkid1: quit worrying the poor kid
#1280 [11:23] <langkid1> ok
#1281 [11:23] <DiskDaemon> StrawHatPhi: If any kind of double transaction does occur, that can be easily sorted out
#1282 [11:23] <StrawHatPhi> Okay.
#1283 [11:23] <StrawHatPhi> I honestly never purchased a game online before like Minecraft, so I'm new to this..
#1284 [11:24] <DiskDaemon> Contact the company that was processing your attempt at payment. That's the path ahead of you here.
#1285 [11:24] <StrawHatPhi> Alright, I'll see what they say.
#1286 [11:24] <StrawHatPhi> So you suggest me contact Moneybookers first?
#1287 [11:24] <DiskDaemon> You may find more details at this page too http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#1288 [11:25] <DiskDaemon> But yes. My suggestion is to contact the company that you made the credit card payment too. That company is Moneybookers
#1289 [11:27] <StrawHatPhi> Alright, thank you.
#1290 [11:27] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#1291 [11:27] <StrawHatPhi> I will come back here tomorrow or a day or two.
#1292 [11:27] * DiskDaemon sleeps
#1292 [11:27] <StrawHatPhi> Thank you for your time.
#1293 [11:29] <langkid1> DiskDaemon, how long did you call sleep for?
#1294 [11:32] <sandbox_builder> So DiskDaemon, earlier you told me to try out the thread and I followed it, but still nothing to show for it. Would it help if I posted the code that pops up in the gray launcher screen?
#1295 [11:33] <lja> diskdaemon, if he comes back
#1296 [11:33] <lja> make sure hes not with natwest or rbs
#1297 [11:33] <lja> because their having technical difficulties and few people are being paid etc the last few days
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#1305 [11:51] <catsrock> how do you fix classic minecraft multiplayer?
#1306 [11:51] <viveleroi> if I delete a players .dat file - is there a doc that says what data is stored here? Inventory and state of death I'm aware of
#1307 [11:51] <catsrock> idk?
#1308 [11:52] <Calinou> player dat file contains: inventory, position, health, hunger, "state" (riding or not, sleeping or not)
#1309 [11:52] <Calinou> potion effects too
#1310 [11:52] <fredD> MineCraft just FROZE after WEEKS of PLAYING.... My Son is Devastated!!! HELP? Xbox is a joke... How the HELL did The file get Corrupt?
#1311 [11:52] <Calinou> and of course, dimension (overworld/nether/end)
#1312 [11:52] <catsrock> im just here to ask how to fix the minecraft classic multiplayer
#1313 [11:52] <Calinou> fredD, are you talking about xbox edition?
#1314 [11:52] <Calinou> catsrock, explain "fix" please. any error message?
#1315 [11:52] <Calinou> also classic does not work with java 7, you must use java 6
#1316 [11:52] <catsrock> And there's no, "Add server" button.
#1317 [11:53] <catsrock> ohh
#1318 [11:53] <catsrock> ok
#1319 [11:53] <catsrock> Thank you.
#1320 [11:53] <fredD> Yes... But Bare with me... Because those guys don't know much! What is this CRAP about corrupt files?
#1321 [11:53] <Calinou> catsrock, in classic there is no in-game server list
#1322 [11:53] <Calinou> ._.
#1323 [11:54] <Calinou> it is on minecraft.net
#1324 [11:54] <catsrock> ohh ok
#1325 [11:54] <catsrock> thanks cal
#1326 [11:54] <catsrock> bye
#1327 [11:54] <Calinou> fredD, can't do much about xbox, blame xbox for being that locked
#1328 [11:54] <Calinou> if it wasn't that closed, people would make tools to help save maps from corrupting or such
#1329 [11:54] <Calinou> such as backup utilities, but you're probably out of luck
#1330 [11:55] <fredD> <Calinou> Is that the Problem? XBox just doesn't have the Power to Handle it? Then LOCKS forever?
#1331 [11:57] <Calinou> I don't have xbox anyway, I'm a PC gamer :P
#1332 [11:57] <fredD> Like I said..... My son is TOTALLY Devastated!!! He wouldn't even sleep last night...
#1333 [11:58] <Calinou> I know how it feels, yes
#1334 [11:58] <fredD> Xbox keeps wanting me to MOVE the file and try to LOAD it from a different location???
#1335 [11:58] <fredD> If the file is corrupt? What the heck would moving it do?
#1336 [11:58] <Calinou> well, you could try to do this... if you have any way of doing this
#1337 [11:58] <fredD> I'm so SOUR right now!
#1338 [12:00] <fredD> What do have for me?
#1339 [12:00] <fredD> anything?
#1340 [12:01] <Calinou> don't know, sorry
#1341 [12:01] <Calinou> while we do help with pocket/xbox edition, there's not much people who own it
#1342 [12:01] <Necrodoom> nor much fixes that could be applyed
#1343 [12:02] <fredD> Got IT! Figures.... Gaming people can't help.... Xbox Can't Help.... This game is worthless if that's how it's going to be.
#1344 [12:03] <fredD> Hour and HOURs of Mining, Building, Adventuring...... GONE. Because we decided to save..... LOL. What a Joke!
#1345 [12:04] <fredD> Have A great Day! Good Bye!
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#1356 [13:14] <Brawlepsilom> hi! i have a problem
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#1358 [13:17] <Robbie> I have just started playing minecraft and it is awful laggy
#1359 [13:17] <Robbie> Does anyone know how to help?
#1360 [13:18] <Brawlepsilom> im looking for help too
#1361 [13:19] <Robbie> It's just lagging so much
#1362 [13:19] <Robbie> I just bought it and I'm really annoyed about this
#1363 [13:19] <Brawlepsilom> my problem its that
#1364 [13:20] <viveleroi> are you just playing single player?
#1365 [13:20] <Brawlepsilom> i bought the game but
#1366 [13:20] <Brawlepsilom> my account
#1367 [13:20] <Brawlepsilom> its not premium
#1368 [13:21] <Robbie> I'm only playing single player
#1369 [13:22] <Brawlepsilom> i want multiplayer
#1370 [13:22] <viveleroi> are you on windows/mac? Make sure you don't have any other applications open. Typically laggy single player is just a lack of memory - do you know how much you have?
#1371 [13:23] <Robbie> Windows
#1372 [13:23] <Robbie> And em
#1373 [13:24] <Robbie> Mainly just music and skype and other stuff
#1374 [13:24] <Brawlepsilom> use game booster for bosting the game
#1375 [13:24] <viveleroi> do you know much ram your computer has?
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#1377 [13:26] <Robbie> I'm not very sure if I am honest
#1378 [13:27] <sharkattack3205> i need help i want to play mulitplayer with my friend just me and him how do i do that
#1379 [13:27] <Robbie> Give me a second
#1380 [13:27] <sharkattack3205> k
#1381 [13:28] <Robbie> It's a 149 GB
#1382 [13:28] <Robbie> 87.0 free
#1383 [13:29] <computerdude5000> thats not ram
#1384 [13:29] <viveleroi> i don't know how to check ram on windows, but you could try lower the options in minecraft - click options, then video settings and try setting things to max fps, etc
#1385 [13:29] <sharkattack3205> can any 1 help me
#1386 [13:30] <computerdude5000> to see ram do ctrl alt delete start task manager go to preformance tap look at lower left hand corner and look for physical member Mb then look for word total post that here
#1387 [13:31] <sharkattack3205> i need help plz
#1388 [13:32] <Calinou> 149GB RAM = surely nice :P
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#1390 [13:32] <computerdude5000> that would be nice but doesn;t happen yet
#1391 [13:32] <sharkattack3205> i need help
#1392 [13:32] <Calinou> Robbie, do you have a dedicated video card?
#1393 [13:32] <Calinou> integrated graphic cards don't run minecraft playably
#1394 [13:33] <Robbie> :No
#1395 [13:33] <Robbie> :No
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#1398 [13:33] <sharkattack3205> i need help
#1399 [13:34] <Gmr_Leon> Question: I'm running on a wireless connection and even after putting an exception for Minecraft, can't seem to get it to connect to Minecraft.net, any ideas?
#1400 [13:34] <computerdude5000> what is ur problem sharkattack3205 post something usefull instead of i need help weren't mind readers
#1401 [13:34] <Robbie> And em its 1643
#1402 [13:35] <sharkattack3205> i want to play with my friend on muiltplayer just me and him how ndo i do that
#1403 [13:35] <computerdude5000> ouch. so um yea java gives about a gig of ram to minecraft by default so running minecraft+ os+ skype = out of ram quick
#1404 [13:36] <computerdude5000> go set up your own server on one of your computers port forward it and then connect
#1405 [13:36] <sharkattack3205> idk how
#1406 [13:36] <Robbie> No but none of them are open just now
#1407 [13:37] <Robbie> Just minecraft and internet
#1408 [13:37] <computerdude5000> robbie what os is ur computer? xp, vista, 7 im guessing xp
#1409 [13:37] <Robbie> Yup
#1410 [13:37] <computerdude5000> sharkattack3205 http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#1411 [13:38] <Robbie> No
#1412 [13:38] <Robbie> Its um 7 I think
#1413 [13:38] <computerdude5000> if thats windows 7 and you only got 2 gigs of ram thats a little messed up
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#1415 [13:38] <computerdude5000> is it netbook, desktop, laptop?
#1416 [13:39] <Robbie> Honestly not sure tbh
#1417 [13:39] <Gmr_Leon> Anyone have any ideas for my problem? Connection problems with getting linked up to Minecraft.net?
#1418 [13:39] <Robbie> I'm just gonna delete a bunch stuff
#1419 [13:40] <computerdude5000> fire wall might be blocking it Gmr_Leon
#1420 [13:40] <Gmr_Leon> Thought so as well, added an exception, no luck. =/
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#1422 [13:42] <computerdude5000> delete a bunch of stuff wont work its freeing up processes
#1423 [13:42] <Robbie> So should I just delete a bunch of stuff, yh?
#1424 [13:42] <sharkattack3205> i want to play with my friend on muiltplayer just me and him how do i do that
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#1426 [13:43] <Robbie> So how can help it?
#1427 [13:43] <computerdude5000> 2 options downlaod the latest snap shot be on the same network aka hes over at ur house and use the option for lan party, or make a craftbukkit server http://wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server
#1428 [13:43] <T-rog> if I recently changed the name that I sign in as for single player games, how do I make my cat loyal to me again?
#1429 [13:44] <sharkattack3205> i do not no hhow to make a server
#1430 [13:44] <computerdude5000> you need to kill certain processes like itunes helper stuff liek that
#1431 [13:44] <computerdude5000> go read the pages i sent you to shark
#1432 [13:45] <computerdude5000> t-rog sign in with the other name or get a new cat you can't make the old one from old nick loyal 2 you
#1433 [13:45] <T-rog> not even with MCEdit?
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#1435 [13:46] <computerdude5000> idk with mcedit never used it
#1436 [13:49] <Robbie> Wait so what do you want me to do?
#1437 [13:49] <sharkattack3205> that dose not help me
#1438 [13:53] <Gmr_Leon> Shark, have you even tried reading the pages? Robbie, hit ctrl+alt+del and look at what you have running, try to close those programs down and then try running the game.
#1439 [13:53] <clarjon1> sharkattack3205: Those pages worked for me.
#1440 [13:53] <clarjon1> sharkattack3205: If you are having issues, try reading the pages.
#1441 [13:53] <sharkattack3205> yes i read
#1442 [13:53] <sharkattack3205> i did
#1443 [13:53] <clarjon1> Then, do what the pages say.
#1444 [13:53] <Gmr_Leon> If that seems too unclear, you may try these pages: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1445 [13:53] <sharkattack3205> im not share wat its telling me wat to do
#1446 [13:53] <Calinou> it's not easy
#1447 [13:53] <Calinou> and it can cause security problems
#1448 [13:53] <clarjon1> It's telling you how to set up a server.
#1449 [13:53] <computerdude5000> im not share wat its telling me wat to do: means to me that you want to be baby fed everything and can't learn how to set u
#1450 [13:53] <clarjon1> Please take the time to type out entire words, sharkattack3205.
#1451 [13:53] <Calinou> Robbie, try using optifine too
#1452 [13:53] <clarjon1> This isn't a cell phone, you're not being charged by the message.
#1453 [13:53] <Calinou> but you should definitely get a computer with a _dedicated_ video card to play minecraft though
#1454 [13:54] <Calinou> minecraft is resource-intensive contrary to common belief, blame mojang
#1455 [13:54] * clarjon1 blinks.
#1455 [13:55] <clarjon1> Why did aubot just do that?
#1456 [13:55] <computerdude5000> its done it before lol
#1457 [13:55] <clarjon1> I think aubot is lagging...
#1458 [13:55] <computerdude5000> LOL
#1459 [13:56] <sharkattack3205> how come u guys walk me throu it
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#1461 [13:57] <clarjon1> sharkattack3205: We gave you links that walk you through it.
#1462 [13:58] <sharkattack3205> i dont wunder stand it
#1463 [13:58] <clarjon1> sharkattack3205: Those links require you to understand the following tasks first:
#1464 [13:58] <clarjon1> 1) Creating a text file
#1465 [13:58] <clarjon1> 2) Renaming files.
#1466 [13:58] <clarjon1> 3) Editing text files
#1467 [13:58] <clarjon1> 4) Double clicking on icons.
#1468 [13:58] <sharkattack3205> how do u creat a text file
#1469 [13:58] <clarjon1> ...
#1470 [14:00] <computerdude5000> rofl what the heck
#1471 [14:00] <computerdude5000> hey shark what browser u using?
#1472 [14:00] <sharkattack3205> googel
#1473 [14:00] <sharkattack3205> google
#1474 [14:00] <Calinou> you mean chrome?
#1475 [14:00] <Calinou> "google" isn't a web browser, sorry.
#1476 [14:00] <sharkattack3205> yes
#1477 [14:00] <Calinou> chrome/chromium are
#1478 [14:00] <computerdude5000> hit alt-f4 it will help alot with understanding what were saying
#1479 [14:03] <Calinou> lol
#1480 [14:03] <clarjon1> sharkattack3205: how old are you.
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#1482 [14:03] <gogogogogogogono> i need help.......
#1483 [14:04] <clarjon1> gogogogogogogono: Ok?
#1484 [14:04] <computerdude5000> did autobot speak with you?
#1485 [14:04] <clarjon1> gogogogogogogono: We can't help you if you don't tell the problem.
#1486 [14:04] <clarjon1> gogogogogogogono: That's like calling a mechanic, saying "My car is broken" then hanging up.
#1487 [14:04] <gogogogogogogono> i have 125
#1488 [14:04] <sharkattack3205> 13
#1489 [14:04] <gogogogogogogono> my village is overpopulating and i have the upodate
#1490 [14:05] <gogogogogogogono> srry my keyboard just bugged out
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#1492 [14:06] <computerdude5000> sharkattack3205 how many days have you had your computer?
#1493 [14:06] <clarjon1> sharkattack3205: You need to learn how to use your computer first.
#1494 [14:06] <honeydeww6999> i have one question
#1495 [14:06] <computerdude5000> well spit it out honeydeww6999
#1496 [14:06] <sharkattack3205> 2 years
#1497 [14:06] <gogogogogogogono> no its just that i have a horrible computer
#1498 [14:06] <computerdude5000> and you haven't learned about it
#1499 [14:06] <honeydeww6999> this friday mojang is working on emails am i right?
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#1501 [14:07] <gogogogogogogono> the keyboard frequently doest work
#1502 [14:07] <Rikairchy> clarjon1 i r stalk u
#1503 [14:07] <Calinou> gogogogogogogono, singleplayer, I presume?
#1504 [14:07] <Calinou> if you have overpopulation of villagers, remove the doors of the buildings.
#1505 [14:07] <Calinou> they will stop spawning
#1506 [14:07] <computerdude5000> mojang working on emails?
#1507 [14:07] <Calinou> and kill villagers ;)
#1508 [14:07] <Calinou> computerdude5000, they have an huge backlog
#1509 [14:08] <Calinou> emails sent on april 25 2012 are getting replies currently
#1510 [14:08] <honeydeww6999> i heard that this friday mojang will dedicate a whole day to the emails of the mommunity
#1511 [14:08] <Calinou> jokes on you AuBot, your +q is full of fail
#1512 [14:08] <Calinou> honeydeww6999, this is probably not true; where did you hear this?
#1513 [14:08] <gogogogogogogono> i did i trapped them all in a container and poured lave in it and i killed them. unfortunately the iron golem killed me karma
#1514 [14:08] <honeydeww6999> the forums help page
#1515 [14:08] <Calinou> -_-
#1516 [14:08] <honeydeww6999> on emails
#1517 [14:09] <Rikairchy> honeydeww6999 are you from TheDepths, by chance?
#1518 [14:09] <Calinou> <gogogogogogogono> the keyboard frequently doest work < consider updating LWJGL, it fixes the "stuck key" issues
#1519 [14:09] <honeydeww6999> whats the Depths?
#1520 [14:09] <gogogogogogogono> oh
#1521 [14:09] <Rikairchy> nvm
#1522 [14:09] <gogogogogogogono> thx
#1523 [14:09] <Calinou> it isn't easy though, see this guide: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#1524 [14:09] <gogogogogogogono> yay!
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#1526 [14:13] <gogogogogogogono> this is how i reacted when my keyboard broke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GV7LieqZUU 00:50
#1527 [14:13] <gogogogogogogono> 00:50
#1528 [14:14] <Calinou> lol
#1529 [14:14] <Calinou> lol
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#1531 [14:17] <gogogogogogogono> i clearly speak german Sag niemals nie
#1532 [14:17] <gogogogogogogono> :D
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#1534 [14:18] <Calinou> what does this have to do with your problem about villagers? ._.
#1535 [14:18] <gogogogogogogono> uhh vilagers are german?????
#1536 [14:19] <Calinou> no, they aren't.
#1537 [14:19] <gogogogogogogono> whats a topic? this serveer is pretty much dead ._.
#1538 [14:19] <gogogogogogogono> 8server
#1539 [14:19] <gogogogogogogono> *server
#1540 [14:19] <Calinou> server = you mean channel?
#1541 [14:19] <Grim_Reaper> This is.. a help channel
#1542 [14:19] <gogogogogogogono> yeah i guess
#1543 [14:20] <Calinou> the IRC /network/ you're on is "irc.esper.net", the /server/ you're on is automatically choosen depending of your location (for lower latency), the /channel/ is #minecrafthelp
#1544 [14:20] <minecraft__kidd> i have just tried to download and it stops at 50% is this usual?
#1545 [14:20] <gogogogogogogono> what is ur procceser
#1546 [14:21] <Calinou> minecraft__kidd, are you using AVG or avira antivirus?
#1547 [14:21] <Calinou> disable the "link scanner" module if so
#1548 [14:21] <minecraft__kidd> dont know not an expert
#1549 [14:21] <Calinou> ...windows I presume?
#1550 [14:21] <Calinou> see the bottom right of your screen? isn't there any antivirus icon?
#1551 [14:21] <minecraft__kidd> yes
#1552 [14:22] <gogogogogogogono> what is it
#1553 [14:22] <minecraft__kidd> ah avg
#1554 [14:22] <gogogogogogogono> ok
#1555 [14:22] <sharkattack3205> how come u guys walk me throu it
#1556 [14:22] <gogogogogogogono> avg is the default one correct?
#1557 [14:22] <Calinou> sharkattack3205, we are not going to spoon feed you; do it yourself, or just don't do it.
#1558 [14:23] <Calinou> opening your computer to the internet can be risky, too
#1559 [14:23] <Calinou> gogogogogogogono, "default"...?
#1560 [14:23] <gogogogogogogono> yes
#1561 [14:23] <Calinou> windows isn't shipped with any antivirus by default
#1562 [14:23] <Calinou> minecraft__kidd, disable the link scanner module and it should work. =)
#1563 [14:23] <Calinou> (it's a false positive, don't worry)
#1564 [14:23] <gogogogogogogono> when i got a new desktop it already had it in it
#1565 [14:23] <gogogogogogogono> oh well
#1566 [14:24] <minecraft__kidd> ok if i just disable avg altogether will that work?
#1567 [14:25] <gogogogogogogono> my friend has a problem when he opens minecraft and logs in he gets red words that say "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" any soloutions?
#1568 [14:26] <gogogogogogogono> but that would leave your laptop/desktop open to viruses
#1569 [14:26] <gogogogogogogono> i use vipre
#1570 [14:27] <gogogogogogogono> you dont have to renew it like norton
#1571 [14:27] <gogogogogogogono> hhfkfbbfdhsdfdsf ddfgsfgsdfg dsfhdsgfhdgshf dgsfsfgaes fgsdfgdsj dshfgdsgfsjdgfdsjgf jfhgfdhsf gdsjfgdshgf dfdsjgfdsj gfdgfjdgf ewjgfsjgf ywgf dsjfsjgf jwe gfesgfdsf aewjgf wegfdshg
#1572 [14:28] <gogogogogogogono> oh sorry my lil bro
#1573 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> ;kick gogogogogogogono spam
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#1575 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Wugbot \o/
#1576 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Didn't think it was goign to work rofl
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#1582 [14:40] <newbie1> i get the handshake exception how to fix it ?
#1583 [14:41] <newbie1> i get the handshake exception how to fix it ?
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#1596 [15:19] <tomrips> hi....my son is 9 years old and has just informed me that he cant connect to his multiplayer server. When I looked the the reason it stated : you have been banned for foul language by mod. Now I know that my son has never used bad language so i'm not sure if someone has hacked into his account....can anyone help shed more light on this issue please.
#1597 [15:21] <Scott> We can't help you.
#1598 [15:21] <Scott> Each server is operated by non-affiliated people.
#1599 [15:21] <Scott> You would have to ask them.
#1600 [15:23] <tomrips> Ok...so who is responsible for banning him for something I genuinly know he's not responsible for, after all, its me that paid for him to use mine craft, and if I thought he was capable of using bad language, I would have told him already that its his own fault......but I know it isnt...seems a bit unfair.
#1601 [15:23] <Scott> The people who run that server
#1602 [15:24] <tomrips> ok...thnaks....any idea how i find out who owne the server..?
#1603 [15:24] <Scott> You would have to ask them about the ban. Mojang doesn't operate the servers.
#1604 [15:24] <Scott> Look for a website or forum topic about it. :P
#1605 [15:24] <Scott> We really can't help you.
#1606 [15:25] <tomrips> Scott...thanks for your help though. It is a shame for the lad as he is really into mine craft, and all I have had is tears fro the last hour.
#1607 [15:25] <Scott> Well find a different server or play single player :P
#1608 [15:25] <lutzee> tomrips, there are plenty of other servers to play on
#1609 [15:26] <lutzee> ??< index
#1610 [15:26] <tomrips> you've just answered my last question which was can he still play on multi server.....answer is yes then.
#1611 [15:26] <lutzee> ?? smp/servers
#1612 [15:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1613 [15:27] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/45-minecraft-survival-servers/. Also, try the #smp channel.
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#1615 [15:27] <tomrips> thanks guys for all your help.
#1616 [15:27] <lutzee> That a good place to start looking for a server suitable for you son ^ :)
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#1621 [15:52] <kessica> can a Mac player play with XBOX players? Or does it have to be Mac w ith Mac and xbox with xbox players?
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#1627 [15:58] <Trickster> PC/Mac is separate from xbox.
#1628 [15:59] <Trickster> Guess I should have paid attention to if the asker was still there.
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#1630 [16:02] <towerofterror4> my game keeps freezing...is this a normal problem?
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#1632 [16:05] <peru> move your computer closer to the heater
#1633 [16:05] <Calinou> the late kessica, no
#1634 [16:05] <Calinou> towerofterror4, install 64 bit java if you're on a 64 bit computer
#1635 [16:05] <Calinou> (windows I presume?)
#1636 [16:05] <towerofterror4> hahahhahhahahhahha........oh, ....wait a minute....................hahahahahhahahahahah...you are very funny ya?
#1637 [16:06] <Calinou> what?
#1638 [16:06] <Calinou> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#1639 [16:06] <Calinou> Windows x64 = 64 bit windows
#1640 [16:06] <Calinou> (uninstall any other versions of java first)
#1641 [16:07] <towerofterror4> i am on a 64 bit computer
#1642 [16:08] <towerofterror4> downloaded and installed java...not sure if it was 64 bit version
#1643 [16:09] <Calinou> ^ 32 bit probably
#1644 [16:09] <Calinou> uninstall any other version of java, install 64 bit java
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#1646 [16:10] <towerofterror4> Thanks for the help Calinou.....I think I had the wrong java installed...will check it now. Thanks again!!!
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#1648 [16:14] <My> I have a question my nefu forgot his password for his account and for his email too. How can he recover it !!!
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#1652 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> [22:14] <My> I have a question my nefu forgot his password for his account and for his email too. How can he recover it !!!
#1653 [16:15] <nivoz12> hi
#1654 [16:15] <Grim_Reaper> If he's forgotten his email password too
#1655 [16:16] <Grim_Reaper> Chances are you cannot recover it
#1656 [16:16] <My> yeah his an IDIOT !!
#1657 [16:16] <Grim_Reaper> You can try email mojang and provide the transaction ID by going to http://help.mojang.com
#1658 [16:16] <Coll> dont they have ways to recover emails?
#1659 [16:16] <Grim_Reaper> But other than that, there is a very small chance you will actually be able to reset the password
#1660 [16:16] <My> not even if i have the account transaction ?
#1661 [16:16] <nivoz12> i an Hacker broke into my email and stole it and my password for minecraft how can i get the user back?
#1662 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> If you dont have the account transaction, you cannot
#1663 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> nivoz12, go to http://help.mojang.com
#1664 [16:17] <nivoz12> i allready sent them and i didnt get a replay plus i can give the number of the cradit card to make sure its me
#1665 [16:18] <Grim_Reaper> Do not give credit card details out to anybody EVER
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#1667 [16:18] <Grim_Reaper> Also nivoz12, it can take a while to get a reply from mojang
#1668 [16:18] <Grim_Reaper> Hi there Marc_IRL \o/
#1669 [16:18] <Marc_IRL> >.>
#1670 [16:19] <Marc_IRL> Someone have a question?
#1671 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> Possibly
#1672 [16:19] <nivoz12> how much time dose it take to get a replay from mojang?
#1673 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> nivoz12 usually up to 48 hours
#1674 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> But it can take weeks sometimes..
#1675 [16:20] <Grim_Reaper> be back in 2 minutes
#1676 [16:21] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: That's not accurate at all, unfortunately.
#1677 [16:21] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1678 [16:21] <Marc_IRL> nivoz12: Was there something you needed help with?
#1679 [16:22] <nivoz12> yes i got hacked and he broke into my email and stole my password and i dont know what to do
#1680 [16:23] <Marc_IRL> Have you already submitted a help case via help.mojang.com?
#1681 [16:24] <Marc_IRL> If so, you can send me a private message on here with the email address you used, and I'll go look it up
#1682 [16:26] <Grim_Reaper> [22:21] <@Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: That's not accurate at all, unfortunately.
#1683 [16:26] <Grim_Reaper> It's not 100% accurate. But from what I've heard from people. It has happened :p
#1684 [16:29] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: Unless it was about a refund, which I tend to answer first, the rest of the team answers emails from oldest to newest
#1685 [16:29] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#1686 [16:29] <Marc_IRL> So when you tell them 2 days, it makes them even more upset with us
#1687 [16:29] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL thats what we've always told our users
#1688 [16:29] <Grim_Reaper> That it can take up to 2 days usually
#1689 [16:29] <Marc_IRL> "usually"
#1690 [16:29] <Marc_IRL> Right now, it's "almost never"
#1691 [16:30] <Boreeas> Grim_Reaper: Actually, I have switched to "Good luck with that" a long time ago
#1692 [16:30] <Marc_IRL> Don't get me wrong, I'm trying to speed things up
#1693 [16:30] <Grim_Reaper> lol Boreeas
#1694 [16:30] <Marc_IRL> Boreeas: Which is why I made an article stating exactly where we were at in the emails ;-)
#1695 [16:30] <Boreeas> And I thank you for that :P
#1696 [16:30] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways afk
#1697 [16:31] <Marc_IRL> We're about to go into hyperspeed on emails though
#1698 [16:31] <Boreeas> Got reinforcement on the support team?
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#1700 [16:31] <Marc_IRL> Sorta
#1701 [16:31] <Elystus> Hey Marc! o/
#1702 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> We'll have some temporary help, because we actually have the right amount of staff to handle incoming emails, it's just the backlog now
#1703 [16:32] <Calinou> hi mojang fanboy
#1704 [16:32] <Calinou> :P
#1705 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> We'll probably able to plow through about 1200 emails a day that way
#1706 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> Calinou: Don't be a dick, he knows me
#1707 [16:32] <Calinou> oh okay.
#1708 [16:32] <Elystus> :)
#1709 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> :p
#1710 [16:32] <Calinou> people who say hi to random mojang people here = fanboys
#1711 [16:32] <Calinou> when they join
#1712 [16:33] <Marc_IRL> I could see how that might happen
#1713 [16:33] <Marc_IRL> Most people don't know who I am though, haha
#1714 [16:33] <Marc_IRL> Which is fine!
#1715 [16:33] <Elystus> Yea, I see how that comes off a little fan boyish...
#1716 [16:33] <Elystus> Yea, I see how that comes off a little fan boyish...
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#1719 [16:34] <Marc_IRL> Huh. That one guy left before PMing me his email. Could have fixed his problem.
#1720 [16:34] <Boreeas> Hi Notch|Marc_IRL|Moll_stam|Jev
#1721 [16:35] <Elystus> A lot of people leave before they can even get helped, it is annoying
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#1723 [16:51] <Calinou> Boreeas, notch/jeb aren't here
#1724 [16:52] <Calinou> <Elystus> A lot of people leave before they can even get helped, it is annoying
#1725 [16:52] <Calinou> blame today's computer users generation
#1726 [16:52] <Boreeas> Yeah!
#1727 [16:52] <Boreeas> Back in my day...!
#1728 [16:52] * Boreeas waves cane
#1728 [16:53] * Calinou waves sugar cane
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#1730 [16:57] <Vortex_spear> hey guys!
#1731 [16:57] <Vortex_spear> when i try to get to my default gateway thing
#1732 [16:57] <Calinou> huh?
#1733 [16:57] <Vortex_spear> wait
#1734 [16:57] <Vortex_spear> when i get to cmd
#1735 [16:57] <Vortex_spear> and type in ipconfig
#1736 [16:58] <Vortex_spear> and i get my default gateway to connect to my router
#1737 [16:58] <Vortex_spear> it says it cannot connect to it
#1738 [16:58] <Calinou> does this have anything to do with /minecraft/?
#1739 [16:58] <Calinou> not really. ;)
#1740 [16:58] <Vortex_spear> i need to make my server so everyone can go on it
#1741 [16:58] <Calinou> Vortex_spear, the IP you use to connect to your router interface depends
#1742 [16:58] <Boreeas> Vortex_spear: That will require port forwarding
#1743 [16:58] <Calinou> 192.168.1.0, 192.168.1.1, 192.168.0.1 < often, these ones
#1744 [16:59] <Boreeas> Additionally, ipconfig can not tell you your external IP address
#1745 [16:59] <Calinou> http://youripis.org < external IP
#1746 [16:59] <Vortex_spear> Calinou, i tried that
#1747 [16:59] <Vortex_spear> it didn't work
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#1751 [17:00] <Vortex_spear> what can i do now?
#1752 [17:00] <Calinou> Vortex_spear, check your router, sometimes, on the underside it has the IP to use to see the router interface
#1753 [17:00] <Calinou> (I mean: physically :P)
#1754 [17:01] <Vortex_spear> i dont see it
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#1756 [17:01] <Calinou> :| try googling around, maybe. this has *nothing* to do with minecraft too
#1757 [17:02] <Calinou> opening ports can pose a security risk
#1758 [17:02] <Calinou> beware
#1759 [17:03] <Vortex_spear> sigh
#1760 [17:03] <Vortex_spear> this isn't work
#1761 [17:03] <Vortex_spear> working*
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#1764 [17:07] <Binks> Hello, i am having trouble downloading minecraft. I have the icon on my desktop but when i click it and log in, the news feed is gone and grey. also it says "cannot connect to minecraft.net"
#1765 [17:08] <Calinou> Binks, any antivirus/firewall?
#1766 [17:08] <Calinou> windows I presume?
#1767 [17:08] <Binks> No. and yes i have windows xp
#1768 [17:08] <Elystus> It can be a multitude of things, lets do a checklist.
#1769 [17:08] <Calinou> did you recently update java?
#1770 [17:08] <Binks> okay.
#1771 [17:08] <Binks> yes i did
#1772 [17:09] <Elystus> To java 7?
#1773 [17:09] <Calinou> ^ java is probably attempting to use ipv6, while minecraft.net is only ipv4-compatible
#1774 [17:09] <Elystus> Downgrade back to java 6
#1775 [17:09] <Calinou> that works, yes
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#1777 [17:09] <Binks> okay. i will try that.
#1778 [17:09] <Elystus> you can uninstall java 7 using the uninstall programs option in control panel
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#1780 [17:11] <Cannondale12> my premium status wont show up
#1781 [17:11] <HelloMyNameis> wheni try to plat minecraft it says I have bad video card drivers
#1782 [17:12] <Elystus> Binks: you can download java 6 here:
#1783 [17:12] <Elystus> http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1784 [17:12] <Elystus> Cannondale12 did you check to see if money was taken out of your bank account?
#1785 [17:12] <Cannondale12> yes it did
#1786 [17:12] <Cannondale12> do you want my code
#1787 [17:13] <Elystus> No, do not give that out publicly
#1788 [17:13] <Elystus> Marc_IRL, got another one for you.
#1789 [17:13] <Elystus> HelloMyNameis: update your video card drivers
#1790 [17:14] <HelloMyNameis> how do I do that
#1791 [17:14] <Cannondale12> ok i emailed mojang about 2 moonths ago and still havent heard back
#1792 [17:14] <Cannondale12> so what do i do
#1793 [17:14] <Elystus> Cannondale12: it can take a little longer, but if Marc_irl responds, he can do it for you now since he is a customer support rep.
#1794 [17:14] <Cannondale12> ok
#1795 [17:15] <HelloMyNameis> how do I update my video card drivers
#1796 [17:15] <Elystus> HelloMyNameis what is your video card?
#1797 [17:15] <Marc_IRL> Cannondale12: PM me the email address you used to email us?
#1798 [17:15] <HelloMyNameis> I dont know how do I check
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#1800 [17:16] <Vortex_spear> Whenever i type my external ip, it says Google Chrome could not connect to 75.82.79.218
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#1802 [17:16] <Vortex_spear> can anyone help?
#1803 [17:17] <Vortex_spear> 72.82.79.218 is my external ip
#1804 [17:17] <Boreeas> !check 72.82.79.218
#1805 [17:17] <Elystus> HelloMyNameis: what os do you have?
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#1807 [17:18] <HelloMyNameis> what is os?
#1808 [17:18] <Boreeas> ??> HelloMyNameis win/dxdiag
#1809 [17:18] <VoxelHead> HelloMyNameis: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1810 [17:18] <VoxelHead> HelloMyNameis: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1811 [17:18] <Elystus> Lol, Boreeas beat me to it.
#1812 [17:18] <Bobbo> So, anyone know why the linux client download link isn't working? :3
#1813 [17:18] <Elystus> Boreeas: is there a full list of commands for that?
#1814 [17:18] <Pottu> hi. can anyone point me to some tutorial how to use switches etc.?
#1815 [17:19] <Boreeas> Elystus: Yes, there is ?? index
#1816 [17:19] <Boreeas> Also,
#1817 [17:19] <Elystus> ??
#1818 [17:19] <Boreeas> :factoids
#1819 [17:19] <WugBot> factoids: http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#1820 [17:19] <Boreeas> ??> Elystus index
#1821 [17:19] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
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#1823 [17:19] <Elystus> THanks Boreeas! :) I am going to try and use the bots more often.
#1824 [17:20] <Boreeas> index is slightly more organized, the paste also shows you the responses associated with it
#1825 [17:20] <HelloMyNameis> where the win+r keys
#1826 [17:20] <Boreeas> ??> HelloMyNameis win/key
#1827 [17:20] <VoxelHead> HelloMyNameis: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1828 [17:20] <pheleas_frog> Hey guys, when ever I type in my Default Gateway number in my browser, it says it cannot connect
#1829 [17:20] <pheleas_frog> Can someone help me on that?
#1830 [17:20] <Boreeas> pheleas_frog: That's not how minecraft works
#1831 [17:21] <Elystus> You have to type your external ip in the client when it asks you for it.
#1832 [17:21] <pheleas_frog> No, i need to make my server so anyone can joib my server
#1833 [17:21] <Boreeas> Your browser attempts to connect to an HTTP server at port 80, not a minecraft server
#1834 [17:21] <pheleas_frog> join*
#1835 [17:21] <Boreeas> pheleas_frog: Yes, external ip is what you need for that
#1836 [17:21] <pheleas_frog> i need to port forward it
#1837 [17:21] <Elystus> You don't use your external ip
#1838 [17:21] <pheleas_frog> i tried it
#1839 [17:21] <pheleas_frog> it didn't work
#1840 [17:22] <HelloMyNameis> ok i downloaded it now what do i do
#1841 [17:22] <Boreeas> pheleas_frog: A tutorial on port forwarding can be found on http://portforwarding.com
#1842 [17:22] <Elystus> HelloMyNameis: you put the results on pastbin.com?
#1843 [17:22] <Boreeas> HelloMyNameis: Save it to your desktop, then copy the results to http://pastebin.com
#1844 [17:23] <Elystus> ^
#1845 [17:23] <Boreeas> HelloMyNameis: Then click submit and give us the link to the website you get redirected to
#1846 [17:23] <HelloMyNameis> how do i paste it
#1847 [17:24] <pheleas_frog> No, i know how to portforward
#1848 [17:24] <pheleas_frog> it's just that i cant go on the website to portforward
#1849 [17:24] <pheleas_frog> ._.
#1850 [17:24] <pheleas_frog> like, my external ip address is 75.82.79.218
#1851 [17:24] <pheleas_frog> When i type it in the browser, it doesn't work
#1852 [17:25] <Boreeas> Oh. To access your router interface, you need the internal ip of your router
#1853 [17:25] <Boreeas> Try 192.168.0.0, 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1
#1854 [17:25] <Elystus> open the saved file, and select everything in it. Then press ctrl + c. Then go to pastebin.com and press ctrl + v. then go to the bottom of the page and press the button that says "submit." Then give us the link to the current webpage you are on.
#1855 [17:26] <pheleas_frog> i already tried those
#1856 [17:26] <pheleas_frog> it didn't work
#1857 [17:26] <HelloMyNameis> ok ill try
#1858 [17:26] <pheleas_frog> it says i cant connect to it
#1859 [17:26] <Bobbo> pheleas_frog: What OS?
#1860 [17:26] <Boreeas> Bobbo: Win
#1861 [17:26] <pheleas_frog> os?
#1862 [17:26] <Boreeas> Operating system
#1863 [17:26] <pheleas_frog> whats that
#1864 [17:27] <Boreeas> Windows, OS X, Linux
#1865 [17:27] <pheleas_frog> windows
#1866 [17:27] <Bobbo> Start>Run, type "cmd", then in the black window type "ipconfig" and read out the number starting with "192.168"
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#1868 [17:27] <pheleas_frog> none of them start with 192
#1869 [17:27] <Bobbo> Mind pasting the output on pastebin or such?
#1870 [17:28] <HelloMyNameis> ok but theres nothing in the paste box
#1871 [17:29] <pheleas_frog> Can anyone please help me?
#1872 [17:29] <pheleas_frog> my internal ip wont work
#1873 [17:29] <Elystus> You should have pasted something in there if you followed my instructions HelloMyNameis.
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#1875 [17:29] <iTech> hey
#1876 [17:29] <iTech> i need help badly
#1877 [17:29] <Elystus> Itech, what is your problem.
#1878 [17:29] <Boreeas> ??> iTech ask
#1879 [17:29] <VoxelHead> iTech: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1880 [17:29] <VoxelHead> iTech: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1881 [17:29] <iTech> my brothers account got migrated to mojang?
#1882 [17:30] <Boreeas> Elystus: Rule No 1 for #minecrafthelp: There is a factoid for /everything/
#1883 [17:30] <Elystus> Lol Boreeas
#1884 [17:30] <Elystus> Yes, is there a problem iTech?
#1885 [17:30] <pheleas_frog> guys, i need to port forward
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#1887 [17:31] <pheleas_frog> but i cant get to the website to portforward
#1888 [17:31] <pheleas_frog> please help
#1889 [17:31] <iTech> There is a problem
#1890 [17:31] <Elystus> What is said problem iTech?
#1891 [17:31] <Boreeas> pheleas_frog: We told you about 5 minutes ago
#1892 [17:31] <iTech> my brother's minecraft account got migrated to mojang it says
#1893 [17:31] <Boreeas> pheleas_frog: Please follow the instructions given to you
#1894 [17:31] <iTech> and he cant access it
#1895 [17:31] <pheleas_frog> i did Boreeas
#1896 [17:31] <pheleas_frog> it didn't work
#1897 [17:31] <Elystus> Itech, login using his email as the username.
#1898 [17:32] <Bobbo_> pheleas_frog: Post the output from ipconfig on pastebin and post it here.
#1899 [17:32] <pheleas_frog> i cant copy and paste
#1900 [17:32] <iTech> my brother tryed, it didnt work
#1901 [17:33] <Bobbo> pheleas_frog: Right click > Select all and then hit Enter to put it into your paste buffer/be able to paste it else where.
#1902 [17:33] <pheleas_frog> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Krispy>ipconfig Windows IP Configuration Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3574:990f:19bd:3018%10 IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 75.82.
#1903 [17:33] <iTech> is there someway someone could reset his account, cause it was migrated to mojang it said
#1904 [17:33] <iTech> which i dont know why it would be migrated?
#1905 [17:33] <Boreeas> pheleas_frog: http://pastebin.com. Paste it there
#1906 [17:33] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: Poke
#1907 [17:33] <Elystus> No, but Marc_IRL may be able to check it out.
#1908 [17:33] <Boreeas> iTech: One second
#1909 [17:33] <iTech> ok Bor
#1910 [17:34] <pheleas_frog> http://pastebin.com/5QfNXtXa
#1911 [17:34] <Elystus> Itech, I am going to guess that there was a typo somewhere along the line, or you are using the incorrect email.
#1912 [17:34] <Elystus> Marc will get it fixed though.
#1913 [17:34] <Marc_IRL> Hmm?
#1914 [17:34] <Bobbo> pheleas_frog: It should be this one: 75.82.72.1
#1915 [17:35] <iTech> there is no typos in the login info
#1916 [17:35] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: iTech needs help with a migrated account
#1917 [17:35] <iTech> it was all correct
#1918 [17:35] <pheleas_frog> that one doesn't work bobbo
#1919 [17:35] <Elystus> Itech's brother migrated his account and is unable to login.
#1920 [17:35] <Bobbo> pheleas_frog: Then this one: 75.82.79.218
#1921 [17:35] <iTech> no
#1922 [17:35] <iTech> no
#1923 [17:35] <iTech> my brothers account got migrated for no reason
#1924 [17:35] <pheleas_frog> That one doesn't work either
#1925 [17:35] <Marc_IRL> Did he have a really easy to guess password?
#1926 [17:35] <Bobbo> Then...
#1927 [17:35] <Bobbo> I have no idea...
#1928 [17:35] <pheleas_frog> UGH,.
#1929 [17:35] <iTech> he said no
#1930 [17:36] <Bobbo> Wait.
#1931 [17:36] <HelloMyNameis> ok i got it the link is http://pastebin.com/4Cej3P4e
#1932 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> Hrm
#1933 [17:36] <Bobbo> How're you connected to the internet?
#1934 [17:36] <Bobbo> Wired or wireless?
#1935 [17:36] <pheleas_frog> umm
#1936 [17:36] <pheleas_frog> wired
#1937 [17:36] <Bobbo> I have no idea, sorry.
#1938 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> iTech: Have you emailed support from help.mojang.com? If you have, and have provided all of the details I need to pull up the account, you can just PM me the email address used, and I'll look it up.
#1939 [17:36] <pheleas_frog> sigh
#1940 [17:36] <pheleas_frog> it used to work
#1941 [17:36] <iTech> um i havent marc
#1942 [17:36] <pheleas_frog> but then i had to buy a new router
#1943 [17:36] <Bobbo> I'd suggest looking at support material from your router/modems supplier.
#1944 [17:37] <iTech> what is the email?
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#1946 [17:37] <pheleas_frog> because my old router overheated
#1947 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> iTech: Go here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#1948 [17:37] <Bobbo> Actually... Now that I think about it.
#1949 [17:37] <pheleas_frog> so now 192.168.1.1 doesn't work
#1950 [17:37] <Elystus> HelloMyNameis: http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_winvista32_15.00.html
#1951 [17:38] <Bobbo> I remember I once saw a guide which covered like, every router made.
#1952 [17:38] <HelloMyNameis> will this download fix my problem
#1953 [17:38] <Elystus> It should.
#1954 [17:38] <whowah> I tried to buy minecraft but after entering my card info and number it said error your account has been close. Will i still be charge?
#1955 [17:39] <Elystus> No, you should not be charged whowah.
#1956 [17:39] <pheleas_frog> ugh
#1957 [17:39] <pheleas_frog> im so frustrated
#1958 [17:40] <whowah> how do i reopen my account?
#1959 [17:40] <Elystus> What account was closed, a minecraft one?
#1960 [17:40] <iTech> ok marc
#1961 [17:41] <iTech> sent u a pm Marc
#1962 [17:42] <Marc_IRL> It's actually possible for a Minecraft account to be deleted if it was reported for fraud, but it's reaaaaally rare. It's more likely that Moneybookers or Paypal are having an issue, depending on the payment method used. If you get an error with one, either try the other, or send them an email to ask what's up.
#1963 [17:42] <iTech> Marc_IRL did u get my pm?
#1964 [17:42] <whowah> I was on my account when trying to by minecraft but the error said to call a +442070239210 to reopen so im not sure.
#1965 [17:42] <iTech> just making sure?
#1966 [17:43] <Marc_IRL> Yes, just doing a bunch of things at once, including normal customer emails. I'll check it out in a sec.
#1967 [17:43] <iTech> ok marc
#1968 [17:44] <Bobbo> So yeah, anyone know what's going on with the linux client download link? :P
#1969 [17:44] <Elystus> Whowah that was probably your moneybooker/Paypal account. Just call the number and ask them aboiut the issue. No one here will be able to help you with this issue.
#1970 [17:44] <Marc_IRL> Email is easier
#1971 [17:45] <pheleas_frog> guys
#1972 [17:45] <pheleas_frog> i really need to portforward my server
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#1974 [17:46] <pheleas_frog> so everyone can go on my server
#1975 [17:46] <pheleas_frog> but i cant reach to the website
#1976 [17:46] <Elystus> Pheleas_frog, were you able to connect to your router using this ip: 75.82.72.1
#1977 [17:46] <pheleas_frog> you mean put it in my browser?
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#1979 [17:46] <Elystus> yes
#1980 [17:46] <jasonnync> why does my minecraft freeze after i play for thirty minutes the past few days
#1981 [17:46] <pheleas_frog> it didn't work
#1982 [17:47] <Elystus> Are you sure, try it again, and don't copy/paste.
#1983 [17:47] <whowah> Elystus, thanks, so moneybooker/paypal did not charge me?
#1984 [17:47] <HelloMyNameis> i downloaded what you told me but it still doesnt work it says bad video card drivers still
#1985 [17:47] <Elystus> Whowah, it should not.
#1986 [17:47] <Boreeas> HelloMyNameis: Did you also install it?
#1987 [17:47] <whowah> thanks
#1988 [17:47] <HelloMyNameis> yeah
#1989 [17:47] <pheleas_frog> yeah, it didn't work Elystus
#1990 [17:48] <Elystus> HelloMynameis I forgot to mention that it should be uninstalled then installed. You should be able to uninstall the drivers using the add/remove program option in the control panel. After you have done that, then install it.
#1991 [17:48] <pheleas_frog> this is what popped up when i put in ipconfig http://pastebin.com/5QfNXtXa
#1992 [17:49] <whowah> thanks for the help
#1993 [17:49] <HelloMyNameis> so i unistall the one i just downloaded or the old one
#1994 [17:49] <Boreeas> Who put that as internal ip address...
#1995 [17:49] <Elystus> Pheleas_frog I have no idea what the problem could be... you should be able to connect to the router using the gateway ip.
#1996 [17:49] <jasonnync> minecraft has been freezing when i play for thirty minutes or more and my screen goes blank please help
#1997 [17:49] <pheleas_frog> Nope, it doesn't work
#1998 [17:50] <pheleas_frog> Okay, when i got a new router
#1999 [17:50] <pheleas_frog> err
#2000 [17:50] <pheleas_frog> when i used my old router
#2001 [17:50] <Bobbo> pheleas_frog: Who is the router made by, and what model is it?
#2002 [17:50] <pheleas_frog> uhh
#2003 [17:50] <pheleas_frog> comcast?
#2004 [17:50] <pheleas_frog> idk
#2005 [17:50] <pheleas_frog> i think it's linkysys
#2006 [17:51] <Bobbo> 'I think' is no help.
#2007 [17:51] <Bobbo> It'll be on a sticker on it somewhere.
#2008 [17:51] <HelloMyNameis> so wich one do I unistall and how
#2009 [17:51] <Elystus> HelloMyNameis, open control panel.
#2010 [17:52] <HelloMyNameis> ok
#2011 [17:52] <Elystus> go to add/remove program
#2012 [17:52] <pheleas_frog> i dont see it
#2013 [17:52] <HelloMyNameis> i dont see it
#2014 [17:52] <Bobbo> pheleas_frog: It'll most likely be on the bottom.
#2015 [17:52] <Elystus> oh, its called "uninstall a program"
#2016 [17:52] <HelloMyNameis> ok
#2017 [17:52] <pheleas_frog> Netgear
#2018 [17:53] <Bobbo> Any other information?
#2019 [17:53] <HelloMyNameis> wich one do I unistall
#2020 [17:53] <pheleas_frog> nope
#2021 [17:53] <Bobbo> Like a product or model name?
#2022 [17:53] <Elystus> Now look for anything named Nvidia
#2023 [17:53] <HelloMyNameis> ok
#2024 [17:54] <pheleas_frog> Idk, theres another thing says cisco
#2025 [17:54] <pheleas_frog> and linksys E1000
#2026 [17:54] <Bobbo> Awesome.
#2027 [17:54] <HelloMyNameis> i unistall Nvidia??
#2028 [17:55] <HelloMyNameis> do i unistall all Nvidia drivers or just one
#2029 [17:55] <Elystus> all of them.
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#2031 [17:56] <Elystus> after that, then just install the driver I gave you earlier.
#2032 [17:56] <pheleas_frog> Can you help Bobbo?
#2033 [17:57] <Bobbo> pheleas_frog: http://www6.nohold.net/Cisco2/ukp.aspx?pid=80&app=vw&vw=1&login=1&json=1&docid=708b9a21307a478cb93a967b75494cf7_21470.xml
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#2035 [17:58] <XyonsNameless> please i need some help, i wanted to creat an account to buy the game so i created an adress email to bind it with the account but first time it failed cause user name was already in use but next time it say that my email adress is already in use o_O bug?
#2036 [17:58] <XyonsNameless> please i need some help, i wanted to creat an account to buy the game so i created an adress email to bind it with the account but first time it failed cause user name was already in use but next time it say that my email adress is already in use o_O bug?
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#2039 [17:59] <XyonsNameless> please someone?
#2040 [17:59] <Denaton> Did you get an email in your inbox?
#2041 [17:59] <XyonsNameless> no i didn't
#2042 [17:59] <Bobbo> Check your spam folder.
#2043 [17:59] <XyonsNameless> already done
#2044 [18:00] <XyonsNameless> nothing
#2045 [18:00] <Denaton> Klick resend or "Forgot password"
#2046 [18:00] <Denaton> Click*
#2047 [18:00] <Elystus> XyonsNameless: It is not a glitch. The email was in use the first time. But since the username was already in use, it only showed the username as being in use.
#2048 [18:00] <Elystus> Both the username and email are already in use.
#2049 [18:01] <Elystus> Basically, someone made an account under your wanted username and your email.
#2050 [18:01] <XyonsNameless> o_O
#2051 [18:01] <XyonsNameless> why someone would do that? -.-"
#2052 [18:01] <XyonsNameless> totally stupid :/
#2053 [18:01] <Elystus> No idea.
#2054 [18:01] <Denaton> -_- Thats make no sense
#2055 [18:01] <Denaton> have you tried Recover password?
#2056 [18:02] <Elystus> Well actually that is not fully true.
#2057 [18:02] <XyonsNameless> yep i tried all i could
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#2059 [18:02] <Elystus> Someone is using your username, and someone else may have ade an account under your email.
#2060 [18:02] <XyonsNameless> is there a way to erase the account linked to my email?
#2061 [18:02] <HelloMyNameis> ok I unistalled it do I download it again
#2062 [18:02] <Denaton> IF they had added the account under his email, HOW could the activate it then?
#2063 [18:02] <Elystus> no, but you can request the name of the account linked to your email, and then do a password reset.
#2064 [18:03] <Elystus> Denaton, they would not be able to.
#2065 [18:03] <Denaton> Then its make no sense!
#2066 [18:03] <Elystus> It would just sit as an unactivated account.
#2067 [18:03] <Marc_IRL> This usually happens when someone registers an address and then forgets about it
#2068 [18:03] <XyonsNameless> so how can i request the name?
#2069 [18:03] <Marc_IRL> Or, if someone else registered it to that email (which doesn't make sense), it'd show in my system as an unverified account.
#2070 [18:04] <Marc_IRL> What's the username?
#2071 [18:04] <XyonsNameless> is there a way to fix the problem? x)
#2072 [18:04] <Elystus> XyonsNameless http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#2073 [18:04] <Denaton> XyonsNameless search for Mojang in the inbox
#2074 [18:04] <HelloMyNameis> Do I download it again
#2075 [18:04] <Elystus> HelloMyNameis: yes, install the driver I gave again.
#2076 [18:04] <XyonsNameless> i already did that
#2077 [18:04] <XyonsNameless> no mail in my box
#2078 [18:04] <Marc_IRL> What's the Minecraft username you're trying to register?
#2079 [18:05] <XyonsNameless> my email in xyonsnameless@hotmail.fr
#2080 [18:05] <XyonsNameless> is there an account linked to my email?
#2081 [18:05] <HelloMyNameis> ok when its done downloading should it work
#2082 [18:05] <Elystus> HelloMyNameis: it should.
#2083 [18:05] <Bobbo> Marc_IRL: Are you a Mojang Employee?
#2084 [18:05] <Boreeas> You have to run it, but yes
#2085 [18:05] <Boreeas> Bobbo: He is
#2086 [18:05] <XyonsNameless> but if there's one i should recive a mail in my box
#2087 [18:05] <XyonsNameless> but i don't
#2088 [18:05] <Bobbo> Oh, cool.
#2089 [18:06] <Bobbo> Fix the linux client DL link!
#2090 [18:06] <Marc_IRL> I am, but the Minecraft username is public anyway. I didn't ask for his email, because that's private :p
#2091 [18:06] <Boreeas> Works fine for me
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#2093 [18:06] <Bobbo> I click it and nothing! The others work fine.
#2094 [18:06] <Denaton> Are you Marc Watson?
#2095 [18:06] <XyonsNameless> i don't care, my email has been created only for minecraft
#2096 [18:06] <Elystus> Yes he is.
#2097 [18:06] <pheleas_frog> Bobbo, it didn't work
#2098 [18:06] <pheleas_frog> ALKSJDSDA
#2099 [18:06] <Marc_IRL> XyonsNameless: The account associated with that email is XyonsNameless
#2100 [18:06] <Bobbo> pheleas_frog: I have no idea, and I give up.
#2101 [18:07] <pheleas_frog> Okay, :(
#2102 [18:07] <Denaton> Ive been w8ing for 2 days to talk to you, an other Mod said i should talk to you if he wasent online when you came in...
#2103 [18:07] <Denaton> Ive been w8ing for 2 days to talk to you, an other Mod said i should talk to you if he wasent online when you came in...
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#2105 [18:07] <Boreeas> Btw, Marc_IRL, for future reference, if someone comes here with an account issue while you are in here, do you want us to forward them to help.mojang.com or can we highlight you so you can take care of them?
#2106 [18:07] <iTech> Marc
#2107 [18:07] <XyonsNameless> fuuuuu i should recive a mail, why do i don't recive it?
#2108 [18:07] <iTech> can u help me now?
#2109 [18:07] <iTech> :/
#2110 [18:07] <Marc_IRL> Whoa, now I have four people talking to me
#2111 [18:07] <Denaton> sorry
#2112 [18:07] <iTech> sorry
#2113 [18:08] <Marc_IRL> XyonsNameless: I have manually verified the email address on there. Everything should work fine now.
#2114 [18:08] <Marc_IRL> Boreeas: Usually send them to help.mojang.com unless it's something weird with an account, especially since help is about to get a lot faster.
#2115 [18:08] <ShaRose> XyonsNameless oh and check to see for spam filters etc
#2116 [18:08] <Boreeas> Marc_IRL: Alright, thanks
#2117 [18:09] <Marc_IRL> iTech: If you've replied to my email, I'll check for it in a few minutes with my normal emails
#2118 [18:09] <Marc_IRL> Denaton: What's the issue now?
#2119 [18:09] <Bobbo> Seriously though, every link the download page works apart for the linux client one.
#2120 [18:09] <iTech> oh u sent a email?
#2121 [18:09] <XyonsNameless> thx marc but i have to wait 20min cause i tried to connect but i've many password
#2122 [18:09] <Denaton> I sened an account issue about 4 April, never got an awsner
#2123 [18:09] <Denaton> I cant login after migrateing and i have changed password and emails several times
#2124 [18:09] <Marc_IRL> iTech: Yeah, I try to put our issues through our system so there's a "paper" trail, and it's on file.
#2125 [18:10] <iTech> ok
#2126 [18:10] <XyonsNameless> YAY succes, Thx Marc
#2127 [18:10] <Marc_IRL> no problem
#2128 [18:10] <Denaton> Says on the help page that you are dealing with April 18 did you miss mine?
#2129 [18:11] <Marc_IRL> We don't really miss emails
#2130 [18:11] <Marc_IRL> They're worked oldest to newest, unless I'm searching for a specific issue
#2131 [18:11] <Marc_IRL> PM me the email address that you used, if you think you sent your issue before that
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#2133 [18:12] <HelloMyNameis> it still doesnt work
#2134 [18:12] <Elystus> Well, the drivers are updated. >_>
#2135 [18:13] <HelloMyNameis> what can i do
#2136 [18:16] <HelloMyNameis> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.--- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 6/26/12 6:13 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation
#2137 [18:17] <Elystus> Please use paste bin!
#2138 [18:17] <HelloMyNameis> ok
#2139 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> HelloMyNameis - I don't know why you were given an old driver, but you need to download and install these: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-301.42-whql-driver.html
#2140 [18:18] <HelloMyNameis> will this work
#2141 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Only one way to find out
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#2143 [18:18] <mickster04> i thought we still had to use java 6?
#2144 [18:19] <mickster04> i thought we still had to use java 1.6?*
#2145 [18:19] <mickster04> i thought we still had to use java 1.6?*
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#2147 [18:19] <Elystus> OH crap... I gave him the wrong link :?
#2148 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Java 7 does cause problems for some people.
#2149 [18:19] <Elystus> :/*
#2150 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Elystus - You gave him a driver dated 2007
#2151 [18:19] <Poks> WHats the casuse of redstone derping in mutlipla
#2152 [18:19] <Poks> yer
#2153 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> That driver there, is newer
#2154 [18:19] <Elystus> Yea, I had a few Nvidia tabs open. I must have given him the wrong link.
#2155 [18:20] <Elystus> I had 3 diffrent driver versions open while trying to find the newest one.
#2156 [18:20] * GreyVulpine nods
#2156 [18:20] <Elystus> I saved that driver to my list of support stuff.
#2157 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> There's really no need.
#2158 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> You always want to get the latest drivers, so just remember to hit up nvidia.com and use the little wizard there.
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#2160 [18:23] <Elystus> Makes sense.
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#2162 [18:28] <Marc_IRL> One more issue down
#2163 [18:28] <Marc_IRL> He had a typo'd email, which when he migrated, carried over
#2164 [18:29] <Marc_IRL> Unfortunately, only we can solve that issue. It just looks like an error from the user's end.
#2165 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> We get quite a lot of typo'd emails that we need to forward to you guys...
#2166 [18:31] <Marc_IRL> I can imagine
#2167 [18:31] <Marc_IRL> Early Minecraft login didn't even check for valid email format
#2168 [18:34] <Marc_IRL> That's kind of a clever quit message
#2169 [18:35] <Marc_IRL> Okay, anything else? I'm going to put my nose back to the grindstone and crank out some more emails if no one else needs me.
#2170 [18:37] <Boreeas> Poor Marc, working past midnight
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#2172 [18:40] <GreyVulpine> I think you're good Marc.
#2173 [18:42] <Marc_IRL> It's 3:42pm :p I still have at least an hour and a half more of work, lol
#2174 [18:46] <Elystus|afk> nick Elystus
#2175 [18:46] <Elystus> >_> No one saw that
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#2182 [19:27] <Amara> Hello everyone i have a technical question about the vanilla server software ... me and a friend of mine upped a minecraft server on that and we have the problem that mobs just spawn in a _very_ low rate so you can travel hundrets or a thousand blocks far without seeing just one mob ... anyone who know the problem and how to solve that ?
#2183 [19:28] <Boreeas> Stay in one spot and they will come
#2184 [19:29] <langkid1> %
#2185 [19:29] <langkid1> ^
#2186 [19:29] <Boreeas> You may need to wait an in-game day or two
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#2188 [19:29] <langkid1> Besides, animals only get a chance to spawn every twenty seconds :(
#2189 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> I once did a video series of where I would travel westwards in Minecraft, but came across virtually no mobs because of how they spawn. Stick around the same area, and you will come across them
#2190 [19:33] <Amara> if the problem would be solved this way i would be happy but i already tryed that ... right now my char is standing on a mob grinder since umm 1 hour ... and exactly 2 mobs fell down the pipe they should
#2191 [19:33] <langkid1> Sometimes mobs are just somewhere else
#2192 [19:33] <Amara> the server is up for a few months now and well we never had more than one or two mobs in wiev
#2193 [19:33] <Amara> we tryed nearly anything ... forums mails the wiki side but nothing helped
#2194 [19:33] <Elystus> Amara, start a new world on the server and see if the same thing happens.
#2195 [19:33] <langkid1> Just wait, there's nothing else we could do
#2196 [19:33] <langkid1> No one here has a backdoor into servers :P
#2197 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> nobody here works for Mojang either. We're all community volunteers who help as and where we can
#2198 [19:33] <Amara> yea i know that^^# i just hoped to see if someone had the same prob and knew where it comes from
#2199 [19:33] <Amara> yes i know i readet the chanrules before ^^
#2200 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps someone on the #smp channel might know
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#2202 [19:36] <jorve> anyone know how to fix minidump error?
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#2204 [19:37] <jorve> -.- i never get any help here,i try but i never do
#2205 [19:40] <langkid1> jorve, go into more detail
#2206 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> jorve: What info can you give us about it?
#2207 [19:40] <jorve> my error says.....let me check
#2208 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#2209 [19:40] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2210 [19:43] <jorve> Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows
#2211 [19:43] <jorve> so i tried a few things but they didnt work
#2212 [19:43] <jorve> i think its something with my environment variables
#2213 [19:43] <Elystus> can we get a crash report pelase.
#2214 [19:43] <s> please*
#2215 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> Is entire contents of the error is more than that one line? If so, please use pastebin so we can see all of it
#2216 [19:43] <jorve> sure itl be huge....
#2217 [19:43] <jorve> uh kay
#2218 [19:43] <lut> use pastebin.com
#2219 [19:43] <lut> don't just copy it here
#2220 [19:43] <jorve> http://pastebin.com/xmxGekXF
#2221 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> "problematic frame" means that your graphics drivers are out of date and need to be updated.
#2222 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> ??> jorve win/dxdiag
#2223 [19:43] <VoxelHead> jorve: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2224 [19:43] <VoxelHead> jorve: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2225 [19:43] <jorve> <.>
#2226 [19:45] <Elystus> I also noticed that it said that you hae java 7
#2227 [19:45] <Elystus> if the new drivers does not fix it, which it should, then java 7 could be the problem.
#2228 [19:45] <jorve> ive downgraded but it hadnt worked
#2229 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: No, Java 7 would give a completely different error if that was the problem.
#2230 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> Let's fix these issues one at a time, and only as and when they occur
#2231 [19:45] <Elystus> I know it would give a diffrent error, but I was trying to attack a problem ahead of time. But, I see what you mean. We should go with one thing at a time.
#2232 [19:46] <jorve> hey voxel ime doing the dxdiag thing now
#2233 [19:48] <jorve> here ya go voxelhead http://pastebin.com/XZE4ffed
#2234 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> The Java 7 issue is not with java or minecraft itself. Instead, it's where minecraft.net doesn't have an IPv6 address. So while waiting for Mojang to get their ass in to gear over that, on computer systems that try to communicate using IPv6 with Java 7 we have to tell Java 7 to not use IPv6. That can be done with runtime parameters to say to prefer IPv4 instead, or in worst-scenario situations by removing Java 7 and going back to Java 6 instead
#2235 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> Going backwards though, is not a good solution
#2236 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> jorve: Your graphics drivers are version 7.14 which are pretty old. I'll see what updates I can find
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#2238 [19:50] <jorve> ya my laptop is pretty old but its all i got atm
#2239 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> jorve: Get the 10.2 drivers for your card from http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx
#2240 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> Hang on, not there
#2241 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> I'll see if I can find vista ones
#2242 [19:51] <DiskDaemon> jorve: The vista drivers are found at http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx
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#2244 [19:51] <jorve> wich download?
#2245 [19:51] <smerft> Guys, whenever i type in my default gateway address in the browser, it doesn't work. Anyone wanna help me?
#2246 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> jorve: THe full software suite
#2247 [19:52] <jorve> alright
#2248 [19:52] <smerft> Anyone wanna help me..?
#2249 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> smerft: What make/model of router do you have?
#2250 [19:53] <smerft> Linksys
#2251 [19:53] <smerft> I think
#2252 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> That's the make. What model is it?
#2253 [19:54] <smerft> Cisco?
#2254 [19:54] <jorve> alright its 6 min dowload so u can help smerft till ime back
#2255 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> smerft: You'll only find out by looking at the thing
#2256 [19:54] <smerft> Netgear
#2257 [19:54] <smerft> :P
#2258 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> smerft: That's also a make. I haven't seen a model code yet from you
#2259 [19:55] <smerft> E1000
#2260 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> Thanks. Which ip address are you trying to connect to?
#2261 [19:55] <smerft> uhh
#2262 [19:56] <smerft> 75.82.72.1
#2263 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> That's not the router
#2264 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> Start up the command prompt, and type in ipconfig. That will show you the Router Gateway
#2265 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> also called the Default Gateway
#2266 [19:56] <smerft> yeah, 75.82.72.1
#2267 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> smerft: That's your external IP address, which has nothing to do with accessing the router from the web browser
#2268 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> smerft: Take a screenshot of the ipconfig info - I'll show you what info you need from there
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#2270 [19:59] <smerft> how do i paste pictures here?
#2271 [19:59] <smerft> o_o
#2272 [19:59] <smerft> Sorry, im new.
#2273 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> imgur.com
#2274 [19:59] <smerft> http://imgur.com/BnbXn
#2275 [20:01] <smerft> does that help??
#2276 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that is the default gateway info from your system there, which is really really weird
#2277 [20:01] <smerft> Yeah, i type that in
#2278 [20:01] <smerft> and it doesn't work
#2279 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> It should normally be 192.168.1.1 to the E1000 router
#2280 [20:02] <smerft> that doesn't work either
#2281 [20:02] <smerft> so no one can go on my server?
#2282 [20:02] <smerft> :(
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#2284 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> smerft: sorry man, I don't know how to help you with that
#2285 [20:02] <smerft> god dang it
#2286 [20:03] <smerft> no one can go on my server anymore
#2287 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> See this info here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network#Private_IPv4_address_spaces
#2288 [20:03] <smerft> i changed my router today
#2289 [20:03] <jorve> smerft try hamachi if your gona make a server its your next best option i think
#2290 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> 10, 172 an 192 are supposed to be the only provate IPv4 address spaces. Not 75
#2291 [20:04] <smerft> because my old router overheated
#2292 [20:04] <smerft> so no one can get to my server huh..
#2293 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> not if you can't tell your router to route packets on 25565 through to your server, no
#2294 [20:05] <smerft> I have no idea what that means
#2295 [20:05] <smerft> :)
#2296 [20:05] <smerft> ALL MY HARD WORK ON MY SERVER
#2297 [20:05] <smerft> ALL GONE
#2298 [20:06] <computerdude5000> lol try localhost to connect if its housted on ur server lolol
#2299 [20:06] <computerdude5000> server = computer
#2300 [20:09] <smerft> i ment if everyone can go on my server
#2301 [20:09] <smerft> it doesn't work anymore
#2302 [20:09] <smerft> hey can you do me a favor?
#2303 [20:09] <smerft> try to connect to my server
#2304 [20:09] <computerdude5000> sure
#2305 [20:09] <smerft> 75.82.79.218
#2306 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> !check 75.82.79.218
#2307 [20:09] <computerdude5000> gives a bad packet id 238
#2308 [20:09] <computerdude5000> 230
#2309 [20:09] <smerft> what does that mean?
#2310 [20:09] <smerft> and how do i check it diskdaemon?
#2311 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> how do you check what?
#2312 [20:09] <smerft> my serve
#2313 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> What you showed there is definately your external ip address
#2314 [20:09] <computerdude5000> wow the bot connected
#2315 [20:11] <computerdude5000> what is autobot doing lol
#2316 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> THe bot silences you for using too many Enter keys too quickly
#2317 [20:11] <smerft> sigh
#2318 [20:11] <smerft> dude
#2319 [20:11] <computerdude5000> lol
#2320 [20:11] <smerft> i really need to make my server public
#2321 [20:11] <smerft> i've been waiting for this
#2322 [20:11] <computerdude5000> !fuckingenter
#2323 [20:11] <smerft> it's almost done
#2324 [20:11] <smerft> o_o
#2325 [20:11] <computerdude5000> awww wrong channel
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#2328 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> smerft: Change the motd line in your server.properties - we'll see if we can get that when connecting
#2329 [20:11] <jorve> alright my download is almost done
#2330 [20:12] <smerft> what should i change it to?
#2331 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> THe declaration of independance, of you like. Anything.
#2332 [20:12] <computerdude5000> rofl
#2333 [20:12] <smerft> try it
#2334 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> !check 75.82.79.218
#2335 [20:13] <smerft> did it work?
#2336 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> patience
#2337 [20:13] <smerft> !check 75.82.79.218
#2338 [20:13] * DiskDaemon smerfts smerft upside the back of the head
#2338 [20:13] <smerft> :(
#2339 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> I said patience, didn't I.
#2340 [20:14] <smerft> :3
#2341 [20:15] <computerdude5000> did you reload the server / restart it to change the MOTD
#2342 [20:15] <smerft> I changed my MOTD to MC Resort
#2343 [20:15] <smerft> okay try now
#2344 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> kill it all and start again
#2345 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> !check 75.82.79.218
#2346 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> So the bot seems to be able to connect to the server. I cannot take things further from here
#2347 [20:16] <smerft> im on the server
#2348 [20:16] <smerft> not him
#2349 [20:16] <computerdude5000> but we can't so what the heck lol
#2350 [20:16] <smerft> o_o
#2351 [20:16] <smerft> computer, try again
#2352 [20:16] * DiskDaemon shrugs shoulders
#2352 [20:16] <computerdude5000> what hte heck is a bad packit id 230
#2353 [20:16] <computerdude5000> oh MCP
#2354 [20:18] <smerft> omg
#2355 [20:18] <smerft> i just lost everything
#2356 [20:18] <smerft> from my server
#2357 [20:18] <smerft> this makes me sad.
#2358 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> computerdude5000: http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=+site:minecraftforum.net+%22bad+packet+id+230%22
#2359 [20:19] <smerft> dude
#2360 [20:19] <smerft> all that hard work is now dust
#2361 [20:19] <jorve> :O my screen zoomed in!
#2362 [20:20] <computerdude5000> well i have no mods lol
#2363 [20:20] <jorve> disk the installer made everything on my screen huge
#2364 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> smerft: Yes, that is something that hurts. I wish that I was able to help any further with this
#2365 [20:21] <jorve> oh good it got fixed
#2366 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> jorve: It changes the screen resolution to the most compatible one. Just set it back to what it was before.
#2367 [20:21] <jorve> it reset itself
#2368 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> That's a part of the isntallation process
#2369 [20:22] <jorve> so after its done installing should i just run minecraft or is there something else to do before i can?
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#2371 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> Yes, run it and see what changes to the situation occur
#2372 [20:22] <aethermod> can someone help me please?
#2373 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> we'll try
#2374 [20:23] <aethermod> ok
#2375 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> aethermod: Would you mind changing your nick? I'm op and dev for aether.
#2376 [20:23] <jorve> install package error D:
#2377 [20:24] <jorve> install package failure*
#2378 [20:24] <smerft> okay, im going to do hamachi
#2379 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> ??> jorve win/reinst
#2380 [20:24] <VoxelHead> jorve: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2381 [20:24] <VoxelHead> jorve: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2382 [20:24] <aethermod> when i try to register an account on minecraft.net, i put in an avalible username a password and my email but when it says sending verification email to my email it never came
#2383 [20:25] <aethermod> what did i do wrong?
#2384 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> This is the help that Mojang provide about that http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
#2385 [20:26] <aethermod> no not password changes verifation emails to make an account
#2386 [20:26] <jorve> voxelhead ive tried that first thing i dont think reinstalling my mc fully will work
#2387 [20:26] <jorve> fyi i got all my mc stuff backed up incase
#2388 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> The same troubleshooting methods apply to new account emails as they do to reset password emails
#2389 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> jorve: VoxelHead's a bot that's under our loose control
#2390 [20:27] <jorve> o
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#2393 [20:28] <jorve> http://pastebin.com/jbRc0Ewg heres the finish install report the errors are at the bottom
#2394 [20:28] <wolfman> hi when useing a visa gift card to buy minecraft what email do i use?
#2395 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> jorve: I'm not sure about that install issue. All I can say is that those are the official drivers from the maker of your graphics card
#2396 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> wolfman: Your own email?
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#2398 [20:29] <jorve> gona run some test to see if i can get it to work
#2399 [20:30] <wolfman> the one on the account or the one the card was activated with
#2400 [20:30] <DiskDaemon> I don't know if they compare it with anything. I would think that just as long as they can get in touch with you via the email, that would be good enough
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#2402 [20:32] <jorve> THANK YOU
#2403 [20:32] <jorve> IT WORKS!!!!!!1111
#2404 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#2405 [20:32] <jorve> you have my deepest gratitude sir
#2406 [20:32] <jorve> do you have a skype for future reference?
#2407 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> Yes I do and no I don't use it.
#2408 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> I'm in a country where we have to pay for every byte of data that we transfer
#2409 [20:33] <jorve> alright,well ime gona go,hopefully you wont have to see me again soon,laters
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#2411 [20:39] <night98> i need help setting up mcforge wom direct
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#2415 [21:13] <bobby_> yea,my minecraft wont start up,every time i try it says "missing intex"
#2416 [21:14] <bobby_> sorry,it says missintex
#2417 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> missingtex?
#2418 [21:15] <bobby_> yep...
#2419 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> Classic version?
#2420 [21:16] <bobby_> no...
#2421 [21:16] <bobby_> 1.2.5
#2422 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's give this a go.
#2423 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> ??> bobby_ win/reinst
#2424 [21:16] <VoxelHead> bobby_: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2425 [21:16] <VoxelHead> bobby_: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2426 [21:18] <bobby_> that didnt work...
#2427 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> bobby_: It seems that your hard drive might be having issues reading some files from it. Has there been other trouble in the past?
#2428 [21:19] <bobby_> yea but i fixed it but i cant remember how
#2429 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> Hardware issues really need to be fixed first, before working on software ones
#2430 [21:19] <bobby_> how do i do that?
#2431 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> Normally it means buying replacement hardware
#2432 [21:20] <bobby_> rly?
#2433 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> Hardware issues such as a drive that corrupts data, means doing that, yes,
#2434 [21:21] <bobby_> oh,well i gatta go
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#2436 [21:26] <Jay> I received a message staying mine craft crashed. Is that try
#2437 [21:26] <Guest98689> True
#2438 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> What details can you give us about that?
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#2440 [21:35] <jjkj123> A few days ago i installed a painterly textr pack i created i tried making a new one today on painterly pack and it wont go in. How do i put it in even my friend gave me advice but it still didnt work.
#2441 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> Can you give some more details about what the problem is, and what you're tried?
#2442 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> *you've
#2443 [21:39] <jjkj123> I installed a texture pack that i created on painterly pack.net and tried again today and wont go in my friend sent me instructions on how to and it still didnt work
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#2445 [21:40] <DiskDaemon> What were those instructions? Can you paste them up to pastebin.com for us?
#2446 [21:40] <jjkj123> ill just type them right here
#2447 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> please don't flood the channel
#2448 [21:41] <jjkj123> ill try not to :D its not much though
#2449 [21:41] <jjkj123> 1. Run MinecraftSP and go to teture packs
#2450 [21:41] <jjkj123> 2.go to texture pack folder
#2451 [21:42] <jjkj123> 3. click open your texture pack name in the start menu type in the nameof the texture pack
#2452 [21:42] <jjkj123> 4. drag it to desktop
#2453 [21:43] <jjkj123> 5. drag it into the texture pack folder
#2454 [21:43] <jjkj123> then he said it should be there but it wasnt
#2455 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> What do you see in %appdata%\.minecraft\texturepacks
#2456 [21:44] <jjkj123> hmm
#2457 [21:44] <jjkj123> wait a second
#2458 [21:45] <jjkj123> if i want to put in second painterly pack in wouldnt i have to delete the first one?
#2459 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> You can have multiple texture packs in there, as long as they ahve a different filename
#2460 [21:46] <jjkj123> well they do and they not working
#2461 [21:46] <jjkj123> but what i saiud......do u think it would work?
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#2463 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> It should. What do you see when you go to that folder I mentioned?
#2464 [21:46] <jjkj123> oh sry didnt check yet
#2465 [21:47] <jjkj123> i dont know how to quite work it all its my friend who knows this stuff
#2466 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> Press Win+r and then type in that path that I gave you before
#2467 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> The Win key is inbeween ther Ctrl and Alt keys
#2468 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> This is what the Win key looks like http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rucWiaE21fs/Tb_5fF-OetI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/p_uvcgsRi9k/s1600/Windowskey.jpg
#2469 [21:49] <jjkj123> ...yeah i dont understand all of this
#2470 [21:49] <Tyler> Hello I try to get on a server and it gives me the error Must have Forge buyld #136+ to connect to the server! How do I fix it?
#2471 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> jjkj123: You may have to hav your friend check things over then
#2472 [21:49] <jjkj123> ok
#2473 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> Tyler: Install forge build #136 or better
#2474 [21:50] <jjkj123> thanks
#2475 [21:50] <Tyler> Send me a link to that version cuz the new version of Forge must be incorrect
#2476 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> Tyler: What link do you have for that?
#2477 [21:51] <Tyler> http://minecraftforge.net/
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#2479 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> Tyler: More specific than that. A link to the forge build that you're trying now, please
#2480 [21:52] <Tyler> What one should I use on there?
#2481 [21:52] <DiskDaemon> Tyler: First, please let me know about the one you are currently using and having troubles with
#2482 [21:53] <Tyler> Forge 3.3.7 Minecraft 1.2.5
#2483 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> At this page here? http://minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php/topic,371.0.html
#2484 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> Do you see the "Jenkins Build:" number from that page?
#2485 [21:53] <Tyler> Ya but it says that is build #135
#2486 [21:53] <jjkj123> Thank you all for your help. Think we may have gotten it going. Thanks again!
#2487 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> Tyler: At http://minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php/board,3.0.html go to the "Main Forge Download June 13th" link instead.
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#2489 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> Tyler: Do you see the reccomended build from that page?
#2490 [21:55] <Tyler> Yes
#2491 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> When you go to it, what build number does it say for that one?
#2492 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> Tyler?
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#2496 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> Tyler: If you're having trouble, let's go back to the Releases section of their web site, and take things step by step. http://minecraftforge.net/forum/index.php/board,3.0.html
#2497 [22:00] <Cannondale12> i need help with payment information
#2498 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> Cannondale12: Nobody here works for Mojang, we are all community volunteer here. So how can we help?
#2499 [22:01] <Cannondale12> no thanks i will just email them. Thank you
#2500 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> There's a 2 month delay on emails to them. Are you sure?
#2501 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#2502 [22:04] <Cannondale12> yes its fine im sorry id just rather go straght to them\
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#2504 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> Cannondale12: We can help you to ensure that you provide them with the info they need to best help you. We've dealt with many situations here before.
#2505 [22:05] <Cannondale12> they just emailed me so thanks
#2506 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> all the best
#2507 [22:05] <Cannondale12> by
#2508 [22:06] <Cannondale12> and thank you
#2509 [22:06] <Sir_Gaming13> i want to buy the game with paypal but its in a forin language and in euros how do i change it to american money and in english
#2510 [22:07] <Hidendra> paypal will convert currencies for you
#2511 [22:08] <Sir_Gaming13> well it wont i cant read it because its a forin language
#2512 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> Sir_Gaming13: We're all community volunteers here unaffiliated with Mojang. We'll do what we can to help though, as and where we can
#2513 [22:10] <Sir_Gaming13> yes thanks but do you know how to chang ethe language
#2514 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> All I can guess at is that it's basing the language from your ip address, or web browser settings
#2515 [22:10] <Moose> Does the Session ID change whenever the client connects to a minecraft server, or whenever it reopens the client?
#2516 [22:12] <Sir_Gaming13> how do i change the web browser settings
#2517 [22:12] <Moose> Sir_Gaming13, what browser are you using?
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#2519 [22:13] <Karwin> Hello?
#2520 [22:13] <Moose> Yes?
#2521 [22:13] <Sir_Gaming13> www.minecraft.net
#2522 [22:13] <Moose> no Sir_Gaming13, I mean what web browser, not what site.
#2523 [22:14] <Karwin> having some issues with some chunks on my friends server, we are all having this issue.
#2524 [22:14] <Moose> (e.g. Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera, etc.)
#2525 [22:14] <Sir_Gaming13> sorry internet exploer
#2526 [22:14] <Moose> Karwin, yes?
#2527 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> Sir_Gaming13: Are you from somewhere like New Mexico? We might be able to find others from your area who's solved that issue
#2528 [22:14] <Karwin> when we go near them our fps drops to 0, most of the time we crash. is this the right place to ask for help on this?
#2529 [22:14] <Sir_Gaming13> yes
#2530 [22:14] <Moose> Sir_Gaming13: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/change-your-internet-explorer-language-settings
#2531 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> Sir_Gaming13: I think that the minecraft.net website might just use Euros for its pricing. The company is in europe, in a country called Sweden.
#2532 [22:17] <Moose> So I take it no one knows how Session IDs work?
#2533 [22:18] <Karwin> ever heard of this issue before? or am I in the wrong place?
#2534 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> Sir_Gaming13: When you buy it, your american money will be converted in to forin money for them.
#2535 [22:18] <Moose> Karwin, what server software are you using?
#2536 [22:19] <Karwin> it happens with just bukket and just as a clean server.
#2537 [22:19] <Gronuth> so how can i set the item IDs on items when the mod doesnt create a config fine for me to edit them in?
#2538 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> ??> gothroach mods
#2539 [22:19] <VoxelHead> gothroach: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2540 [22:19] <VoxelHead> gothroach: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#2541 [22:19] <Sir_Gaming13> yes but what do i do with language
#2542 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> ??> Gronuth mods
#2543 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> gothroach: apologies
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#2545 [22:20] <Moose> Sir_Gaming13, you can always translate the site with http://translate.google.com/
#2546 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> Sir_Gaming13: You could try using the Google Chrome web browser. That one can easily translate web pages in to English for you.
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#2548 [22:21] <Karwin> or did I miss understand your question Moose?
#2549 [22:21] <Moose> ah
#2550 [22:22] <Moose> Karwin, are you running it on a local computer, or a virtual server?
#2551 [22:22] <Moose> or are you using a minecraft server provider (e.g. redstonehosting)
#2552 [22:22] <Moose> or are you using a minecraft server provider (e.g. redstonehosting)
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#2554 [22:22] <Karwin> not my server, its hosted through servercraft.co paid hosting
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#2556 [22:23] <Moose> Ah. Karwin, contact them about it, and see if they can fix it for you.
#2557 [22:24] <Elystus> What is going on?
#2558 [22:24] <Karwin> thanks
#2559 [22:24] <Moose> their support page is http://servercraft.co/support
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#2562 [22:32] <Scott> what was Karwin's problem?
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#2564 [22:36] <Moose> Scott: lagging in certain chunks
#2565 [22:38] <Elystus> the chunks are probably corrupt.
#2566 [22:38] <Moose> Scott: why am I banned in #minecraft? sqozza said it was only for a day about 3 days ago.
#2567 [22:39] <Scott> Don't know.
#2568 [22:39] <Scott> Post in the ban appeals forum.
#2569 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> It's possible to use mcedit to try and resolve issue with corrupt chunks
#2570 [22:39] <Scott> chunkster should do it too
#2571 [22:39] <Elystus> Moose, are you using an in browser irc client?
#2572 [22:39] <Scott> but he wouldn't have access to run that sort of stuff
#2573 [22:39] <Moose> Elystus, no. why?
#2574 [22:39] <Scott> Elystus: Moose is specifically banned, it's not a client ban.
#2575 [22:39] <Elystus> Okay
#2576 [22:41] <Moose> you could've ctcp version'd me.
#2577 [22:41] * DiskDaemon checks #Minecraft logs
#2577 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> [19:46] * Moose was kicked by Sqozza (I reserve to right to remove you from the channel for any reason I see fit. This is one of them. See you tomorrow!)
#2578 [22:42] <Sir_Gaming13> thanks guys 1 thing how do i get mmods
#2579 [22:42] <Elystus> How can you find them, or how do you install them?
#2580 [22:43] <Sir_Gaming13> find them
#2581 [22:43] <Moose> DiskDaemon, I know; that was 3 days ago.
#2582 [22:43] <Moose> right after I corrected his grammar.
#2583 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> Sir_Gaming13: A good place is the minecraft forums. I'll get a link for you
#2584 [22:43] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/51-minecraft-mods/
#2585 [22:44] <Sir_Gaming13> thanks diskdaemon and elystus
#2586 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> Ta - my internet is being slow as anything right now
#2587 [22:45] <Elystus> I just got my internet back. Time Warner cable went down for 2-3 hours.
#2588 [22:45] <Elystus> I began having withdrawls.
#2589 [22:48] <Sir_Gaming13> thanks for the help guys or girls thanks
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#2591 [22:51] <Mezhy> Guys, I've been trying to buy Minecraft for an hour now, and I use American Express...When I click that my card is used with that, it still asks me to choose my card, and Amex doesn't show up, only VISA, Mastercard, Debit, and Visa Electron..Help?
#2592 [22:52] <Scott> I don't think they accept AmEx
#2593 [22:52] <Scott> You could try doing it through paypal but they may not accept it there either.
#2594 [22:52] <Scott> AmEx charges higher transaction fees
#2595 [22:52] <Elystus> Amex is not a supported card by either PayPal or MoneyBookers
#2596 [22:52] <Mezhy> When I'm trying to buy it, before the checkout screen, it says "Please Choose your payment option" and i PICK amEX.
#2597 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> no, they don't. That logo really should be removed from the site.
#2598 [22:52] <Mezhy> Oh well this sucks.
#2599 [22:52] <Mezhy> So what can i do?
#2600 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> Use paypal?
#2601 [22:52] <Scott> use a different card
#2602 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> Or some other credit card?
#2603 [22:53] <Elystus> I don't think paypal accepts it either
#2604 [22:53] <Scott> Surely you have more than just AmEx.
#2605 [22:53] <Mezhy> Greeeat okay. I'll figure this out. Thanks a lot guys.
#2606 [22:53] <Elystus> Oh wait, yea PayPal accepts Amex
#2607 [22:53] <Mezhy> So then...
#2608 [22:53] <Scott> It is up to merchants whether they will accept it though, Elystus.
#2609 [22:53] <Scott> You can opt out of it on Paypal
#2610 [22:53] <Mezhy> Alright i'll do that.
#2611 [22:54] <Mezhy> i'll be back if it doesn't work.
#2612 [22:54] <Elystus> I do not think that MOjang opted out on any cards, but I do not know. I can ask Marc really quickly.
#2613 [22:54] <Elystus> Mezhy, tell me if it works or not.
#2614 [22:55] <Scott> He left
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#2616 [22:55] <Elystus> I have him on skype
#2617 [22:56] <Toxycotton> My Minecraft keeps lagging everytime I go on it, I've tryed playing offline, but still end up with the same problem.
#2618 [22:57] <Toxycotton> How do I get it to stop lagging? Or at least tell me why its lagging?
#2619 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> Eledore: This thread might help to answer some questions on amex http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/330333-mojang-adds-new-payment-options-minecraft-support/
#2620 [22:59] <Elystus> Oh Scott, You were talking about Mezhy
#2621 [22:59] <Elystus> I missed the leave message.
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#2625 [23:14] <sharkattack3205> how do u open ur port
#2626 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> COmmonly by seting up port forwarding on your router
#2627 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> sharkattack3205: What make/model of router do you have?
#2628 [23:16] <sharkattack3205> how do i know wat my router name is
#2629 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> It will say it on it. Normally underneath the router.
#2630 [23:17] <sharkattack3205> wat aabout the numbers
#2631 [23:17] <sharkattack3205> code
#2632 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> Just the make and model will do
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#2634 [23:20] <sharkattack3205> thers lots of name on there but i think its atnt
#2635 [23:20] <sharkattack3205> at n t
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#2638 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> sharkattack3205: About the only atnt I see is a 6800G - does that look right?
#2639 [23:21] <sharkattack3205> hold on
#2640 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> sharkattack3205: Detailed instructions on how to port forward an ATnT router for a Minecraft server are found at http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/ATnT/6800G/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2641 [23:22] <sharkattack3205> the ssid
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#2643 [23:23] <Tyler> I have a penis
#2644 [23:24] <mortisha> Hey guys, i have 2 computers, and one of them has 192.168.1.1 and the other one has 75.82.72.1
#2645 [23:24] <mortisha> how do i make my main computer 192.168.1.1?
#2646 [23:24] <sharkattack3205> disk u there
#2647 [23:24] <mortisha> because whenever i put in 75.82.72.1 in my browser
#2648 [23:24] <mortisha> it doesn't work
#2649 [23:24] <mortisha> can someone please help me?
#2650 [23:24] <mortisha> can someone please help me?
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#2652 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> The only thing I know of that can help with that, is this program to set up a static IP address http://portforward.com/help/setup_static_ip_address.htm
#2653 [23:25] <mortisha> if this works, i will love you
#2654 [23:26] <mortisha> forever
#2655 [23:26] <mortisha> <#
#2656 [23:26] <mortisha> <3*
#2657 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> too many Enter keys at once
#2658 [23:26] <|Kiichan|> yes....
#2659 [23:31] <sharkattack3205> hey disk its 2wire and 2701hg-b
#2660 [23:32] <sharkattack3205> disk u there
#2661 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> okay
#2662 [23:32] <Elystus> Shark, he is getting a link for you. Just be patient
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#2664 [23:32] <sharkattack3205> kk
#2665 [23:32] <WoM-Guest> can i get minecraft help here ?
#2666 [23:33] <Scott> You're using WoM which means you're using classic.
#2667 [23:33] <WoM-Guest> or is it a differant one ?
#2668 [23:33] <Scott> We don't support classic anymore.
#2669 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> sharkattack3205: These are the detailed instructions for that particular router http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/2wire/2701HG-B/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2670 [23:33] <sharkattack3205> ok thanks
#2671 [23:34] <WoM-Guest> whats classic is that the old minecraft befor redstone ?
#2672 [23:34] <Scott> Classic is the free game.
#2673 [23:35] <WoM-Guest> lol how do i get help for the newer one then ?
#2674 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> What trouble are you having with the 1.2.5?
#2675 [23:36] <WoM-Guest> not that new
#2676 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> which newer one?
#2677 [23:36] <WoM-Guest> Beta 1.6.6
#2678 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> I wasn't around here when that one came out. I doubt anyone can help with more than basic issues in relation to that
#2679 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> What seems to be the problem with that one?
#2680 [23:37] <WoM-Guest> just redstone
#2681 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> What seems to be the problem with that?
#2682 [23:38] <WoM-Guest> trying to build a arrow trap
#2683 [23:38] <WoM-Guest> cant make it fire full
#2684 [23:38] <Scott> WoM-Guest: You should use the latest version which is 1.2.5 stable.
#2685 [23:38] <Scott> The game is no longer beta.
#2686 [23:38] <WoM-Guest> no its the xbox 360
#2687 [23:38] <WoM-Guest> not updated yet
#2688 [23:39] <Scott> Ah
#2689 [23:39] <Scott> you could have said that lol
#2690 [23:39] <WoM-Guest> yes
#2691 [23:39] <WoM-Guest> lol sry
#2692 [23:39] <Scott> I don't know anything about Xbox 360. Maybe someone else does.
#2693 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> WoM-Guest: You'll want to see this page then http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Xbox_360_Edition_known_bugs
#2694 [23:40] <WoM-Guest> im on that page in my links but it doesnt have any redstone on it
#2695 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> So, what seems to be the problem?
#2696 [23:40] <Elystus> I think it is just a simple redstone wiring question
#2697 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> Okay, what seems to be the problem with that?
#2698 [23:41] <WoM-Guest> i need a pullser that lasts about ten seconds
#2699 [23:41] <Elystus> How to set a wall of dispensers up to fire at the same time.
#2700 [23:41] <WoM-Guest> so when trigerd it still shoots for a while
#2701 [23:41] <Elystus> with a pulsator
#2702 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> 10 seconds is 200 ticks, so you would need around 50 repeaters set at 4 ticks (longest delay on them)
#2703 [23:42] <WoM-Guest> no prob
#2704 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Circuits#Pulse_sustainer
#2705 [23:42] <WoM-Guest> i need to get it to shoot tho
#2706 [23:43] <Elystus> Just hook the redstone up to the dispenser and it will shoot
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#2708 [23:43] <WoM-Guest> a sec plz
#2709 [23:45] <clarjon1> pew pew pew
#2710 [23:47] <WoM-Guest> see i need it to shoot fulloto but be turned on by a button and still shoot for ten seconds but if its just stait power it only shoots once so it needs to blink once triggered for ten seconds
#2711 [23:47] <Elystus> so you want it to stop shooting after ten seconds
#2712 [23:48] <WoM-Guest> or close to it
#2713 [23:48] <DiskDaemon> Oh, so you don't want it to shoot every ten seconds, but to keep on shooting for ten seconds?
#2714 [23:48] <Elystus> I do not believe that is possible... But I am not the greatest with redstone.
#2715 [23:48] <WoM-Guest> i need it to kill all greafers who enter the pass word to my vault wrong lol
#2716 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> WoM-Guest: Lava does that.
#2717 [23:49] <WoM-Guest> but to quit shooting so i cant still get in and out once it kills them
#2718 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> Or a pitfall drop
#2719 [23:49] <WoM-Guest> no and no
#2720 [23:49] <WoM-Guest> theres no pistons yet
#2721 [23:49] <DiskDaemon> So you will need several circuits then. One that goes on for 10 seconds then goes off, and another circuit that triggers the autofire, and can be turned on and off by that first circuit
#2722 [23:50] <WoM-Guest> yes
#2723 [23:50] <WoM-Guest> it cant use pistons though
#2724 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> Anyone know where to get advanced restone help in esper.net ?
#2725 [23:50] <DiskDaemon> *redstone
#2726 [23:50] <Elystus> Nope... I suck with it for the most part.
#2727 [23:50] <Elystus> I only know somethings
#2728 [23:51] <Elystus> See if you can find anything here
#2729 [23:51] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/67-redstone-discussion-and-mechanisms/
#2730 [23:51] <Trickster> I could sit down and work it out, but I don't feel like it right now.
#2731 [23:51] <Elystus> I might be able to build one that keeps going, but not a time limited one.
#2732 [23:51] <WoM-Guest> dang
#2733 [23:52] <Trickster> You'd have to build one that keeps going, but that can be interrupted by a second signal.
#2734 [23:52] <DiskDaemon> The trouble with redstone, is that is requires a lot of real-world state-change knowledge to properly do more complex things
#2735 [23:52] <Trickster> Then have the second signal be on a ten second delay.
#2736 [23:52] <Elystus> OH! I get what you are saying trickster
#2737 [23:52] <Elystus> But that is a rather complex build.
#2738 [23:52] <Trickster> Either that or make something that sends out a bunch of signals that hit the dispenser at different times, but that'd probably take up more space.
#2739 [23:52] <Trickster> A lot more.
#2740 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> That can be done by having the restone split in two, with repeater delays along the second wire. The first wire will start things, and the repeaters delay the second signal to stop things
#2741 [23:54] <WoM-Guest> how about a Input Stabilizer hooked to a delay hooked to a pulse generator
#2742 [23:54] <WoM-Guest> ?
#2743 [23:54] <Elystus> wait I might have figured it out. Give me a few mins
#2744 [23:54] <WoM-Guest> ok
#2745 [23:55] <WoM-Guest> if your trying to test it use http://mordritch.com/mc_rss/
#2746 [23:56] <WoM-Guest> its a redstone tester
#2747 [23:56] <WoM-Guest> works farly good
#2748 [23:58] <WoM-Guest> brb