#1 [00:00] <WoM-Guest> k im back any luck ?
#2 [00:01] <WoM-Guest> you still here?
#3 [00:04] <WoM-Guest> hi
#4 [00:04] <WoM-Guest> hello ?
#5 [00:05] <Elystus> I am trying
#6 [00:05] <Elystus> Just give me time
#7 [00:06] <WoM-Guest> ok sry
#8 [00:06] <WoM-Guest> i wasnt shure if i had lagged out or something
#9 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> I'm working on something too,a timer to a togglable clock
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#12 [00:09] <WoM-Guest> ok thanks for helping me u guys
#13 [00:15] <nategold91> Hi
#14 [00:17] <WoM-Guest> hi
#15 [00:18] <WoM-Guest> how you doing ?
#16 [00:21] <Elystus> Hello nate
#17 [00:21] <WoM-Guest> hi
#18 [00:21] <WoM-Guest> lol
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#20 [00:24] <WoM-Guest> hi
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#22 [00:32] <WoM-Guest> aww every ones leaving
#23 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> WoM-Guest: This circuit does what you seem to want. A button on the left block start the dispensor firing, and it keeps on firing until a delayed signal from series of redstone repeaters causes it to stop again. It uses this togglable clock with the repeaters set to 3 instead of 4, for faster firing http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Circuits#Toggleable_clock
#24 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> Here's a screenshot of the end result - http://imgur.com/m14J8
#25 [00:33] <WoM-Guest> ok just a sec
#26 [00:35] <WoM-Guest> im gona run it through the redstone tester
#27 [00:35] <WoM-Guest> see what i get
#28 [00:36] <WoM-Guest> ps:how did you find it ?
#29 [00:38] <DiskDaemon> I used the individual circuits from that redstone info page and created it from my own blood, sweat, and elbow grease.
#30 [00:41] <Elystus> Yea, I created my own, but it is much larger
#31 [00:41] <Elystus> well not much, just a little larger
#32 [00:41] <WoM-Guest> lol
#33 [00:42] <WoM-Guest> im testing it out
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#35 [00:43] <WoM-Guest> nice
#36 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> I'll upload a video of it in action
#37 [00:43] <WoM-Guest> cool
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#39 [00:44] <eric_> how do i delete a minecraft account?
#40 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> Why would you want to delete an account?
#41 [00:45] <WoM-Guest> no kidding
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#43 [00:45] <WoM-Guest> lol minecraft is great
#44 [00:45] <eric_> because i made a new account, i wanted a different username
#45 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> eric_: Mojang don't allow usernames to be changed yet, but they're working on it
#46 [00:46] <eric_> i there a way to delete my old account?
#47 [00:46] <eric_> *is
#48 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> You can purchase a second account, but then you will have two accounts. Mojang don't let you delete the other one
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#50 [00:46] <Elystus> Eric you can always just create another under a diffrent email.
#51 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> WoM-Guest: See what you think of this video - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38939323/minecraft/Timer-based%20pulsed%20firing.mp4
#52 [00:50] <WoM-Guest> nice
#53 [00:50] <WoM-Guest> thats just what i needed
#54 [00:51] <WoM-Guest> did you make that ?
#55 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> yes
#56 [00:51] <WoM-Guest> nice ty
#57 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#58 [00:52] <WoM-Guest> i could find anything on that but now i know how
#59 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> It's also possible to use other things for a timer, such as a boat going around a circular water track. That can help to reduce the size of longer timers.
#60 [00:53] <WoM-Guest> lol you saved me from greafers or and friends being snoopy
#61 [00:53] <WoM-Guest> i dont think a boat would work wouldnt i need pistons ?
#62 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> You can also put down false signs of protection, such as pressure plates that do nothing (but might)
#63 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> boat timers are well known
#64 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_Circuits#Boat_Clock
#65 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> That one uses a piston, but you can also create a circular flow of water that pushed the boat around, and use a door and pressure place for the rlease/trigger mechanism
#66 [00:55] <WoM-Guest> so i dont have to use a piston right?
#67 [00:56] <DiskDaemon> correct
#68 [00:56] <WoM-Guest> have you play the xbox minecraft ?
#69 [00:57] <WoM-Guest> played
#70 [00:57] <DiskDaemon> The only xbox thing I use is its controller on my pc
#71 [00:57] <Elystus> I played it once, it was not as good in my opinion. Controls were iffy, but then again I do not own an Xbox. So that could be both opinion and not being familiar with the contoller.
#72 [00:58] <WoM-Guest> true
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#74 [00:58] <WoM-Guest> how did you record the video ?
#75 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> using fraps
#76 [00:59] <WoM-Guest> whats that ?
#77 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> and then Handbrake to convert it into a smaller video
#78 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> fraps is a program to record video
#79 [00:59] <WoM-Guest> is it a screen capture?
#80 [01:00] <langkid1> ?? modhep
#81 [01:00] <langkid1> ?? modhelp
#82 [01:00] <langkid1> >_>
#83 [01:00] <langkid1> ?? index
#84 [01:00] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#85 [01:02] <WoM-Guest> i might have to save this site lol for future projects should i think of something that isnt shown in the wiki
#86 [01:03] <WoM-Guest> is there a way to get me a name thats not guest ?
#87 [01:03] <Elystus> yea, i is /nick
#88 [01:04] <WoM-Guest> and ?
#89 [01:05] <WoM-Guest> it doesnt seem to do any thing am i doing it wrong ?
#90 [01:06] <WoM-Guest> how about know
#91 [01:06] <WoM-Guest> dang
#92 [01:10] <Elystus> it is just /nick (your chosen name)
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#96 [01:19] <WoM-Guest> is this the place i asked about redstone in ?
#97 [01:19] <Elystus> yes
#98 [01:19] <pyromaniac> yay
#99 [01:20] <pyromaniac> ok im a user no
#100 [01:20] <pyromaniac> now
#101 [01:20] <Elystus> \o/
#102 [01:21] <pyromaniac> whats voice do ?
#103 [01:21] <pyromaniac> the setting
#104 [01:21] <DiskDaemon> It allows you to speak when the channel is set in quiet mode. Not much more really.
#105 [01:21] <pyromaniac> ok
#106 [01:22] <DiskDaemon> Other than that, it's a recognition from the ops that you're a useful person to have around these here parts.
#107 [01:22] <pyromaniac> oh
#108 [01:23] <pyromaniac> ops i think i sent you a chat invite sry
#109 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> None has been received by me
#110 [01:24] <pyromaniac> oh ok i wonder what i did then
#111 [01:24] <Elystus> Basically voice means that they are a cool and nice person.
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#113 [01:24] <Elystus> that knows stuff
#114 [01:24] <pyromaniac> ok
#115 [01:24] <pyromaniac> hi tjp
#116 [01:24] <tjp> hello i am requesting assistance for this error when i run the game
#117 [01:24] <tjp> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 6/26/12 10:22 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 Java: 1.6.0_29, Sun Microsystems Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mo
#118 [01:24] <pyromaniac> wow
#119 [01:24] <SinZ> ?? pastebin
#120 [01:24] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#121 [01:24] <Elystus> Please use pastebin
#122 [01:24] <DiskDaemon> ??> tjp pastebin
#123 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> tjp: Your graphics card drivers are out of date. We can help you to update them.
#124 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> ??> tjp dxdiag
#125 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> ??> tjp win/dxdiag
#126 [01:25] <pyromaniac> what is paste bin ?
#127 [01:25] <VoxelHead> tjp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#128 [01:25] <VoxelHead> tjp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#129 [01:25] <tjp> okay yes how can i update them
#130 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> pyromaniac: It lets you paste text content to a website, so that others (us) can see it
#131 [01:26] <DiskDaemon> tjp: Follow the instructions from VoxelHead about dxdiag
#132 [01:26] <pyromaniac> oh
#133 [01:26] <tjp> i rerally need to know if not my 26$ was a waste
#134 [01:26] <Elystus> Tjp it is a fixable problem, just do ask Disk is telling you too
#135 [01:26] <pyromaniac> 26 $
#136 [01:26] <DiskDaemon> tjp: You just have old out of date video drivers on your computer. We can help you to update them.
#137 [01:26] <tjp> okay how do i use pastebin
#138 [01:26] <Elystus> Get us the system specs using the dxdiag instructions.
#139 [01:27] <tjp> ok
#140 [01:27] <Elystus> YOu copy and paste it into the space on the page
#141 [01:27] <tjp> http://pastebin.com/Tsvr8raF
#142 [01:27] <tjp> :dx
#143 [01:27] <WugBot> dx: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#144 [01:27] <WugBot> dx: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it here.
#145 [01:28] <pyromaniac> do you guys just pop in and answer questions when you have spare time ?
#146 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> yes
#147 [01:28] <Elystus> Yea
#148 [01:28] <tjp> disk demon what do i do know here is the link
#149 [01:28] <tjp> http://pastebin.com/Tsvr8raF
#150 [01:28] <Elystus> I am here a lot. More than usual right now because I am recovering from a surgery.
#151 [01:28] <tjp> how do i collect my dxdiag
#152 [01:29] <DiskDaemon> ??> tjp win/dxdiag
#153 [01:29] <VoxelHead> tjp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#154 [01:29] <VoxelHead> tjp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#155 [01:29] <pyromaniac> lol im glad i came when you guys were here
#156 [01:29] <tjp> im so confused im not to tech savy could someone explain it in simpler terms please
#157 [01:30] <DiskDaemon> Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter.
#158 [01:30] <pyromaniac> so what happens when i doubble click your name ?
#159 [01:30] <DiskDaemon> Do you know how to press Win+R ?
#160 [01:30] <DiskDaemon> This is the windows key that you are looking for. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rucWiaE21fs/Tb_5fF-OetI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/p_uvcgsRi9k/s1600/Windowskey.jpg
#161 [01:31] <tjp> oh ok ay got it thanks
#162 [01:31] <tjp> k i have my dxdiag up now what?
#163 [01:31] <DiskDaemon> ??> tjp win/dxdiag
#164 [01:31] <VoxelHead> tjp: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#165 [01:31] <VoxelHead> tjp: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#166 [01:33] <pyromaniac> is there just a chat channel that i can use and not bother you guys ?
#167 [01:33] <DiskDaemon> It's best to keep it in this channel, if you want help with something
#168 [01:33] <pyromaniac> oh ok
#169 [01:33] <tjp> http://pastebin.com/Yfei70xL
#170 [01:33] <tjp> ok here they are
#171 [01:34] <DiskDaemon> Those video drivers are version 6.14 from 2006 - I'll see if there are better ones around
#172 [01:35] <Elystus> what operating system do you have tjp
#173 [01:35] <Elystus> and is it 64 or 32 bit
#174 [01:35] <DiskDaemon> Win 7 Pro 32-bit it says there
#175 [01:35] * Elystus face palms
#175 [01:35] <Elystus> Derp
#176 [01:36] <tjp> i have windows 7
#177 [01:36] <tjp> 32 bit
#178 [01:36] <tjp> so yea any help works thanks so much guys
#179 [01:36] <Elystus> yea, I was being stupid. It is listed on the pastbin you gave us.
#180 [01:36] <DiskDaemon> tjp: Try this update utility from Intel for your graphics card http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/graphics
#181 [01:37] <tjp> ok one min
#182 [01:37] <DiskDaemon> If that doesn't work, your video card is too old
#183 [01:39] <tjp> okay yea it does not work lol i definently need a new driver thanks for the help guys
#184 [01:40] <Elystus> I do not think that the grapics card meets the min requirements.
#185 [01:40] <tjp> ill check
#186 [01:40] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-to-play-minecraft-
#187 [01:41] <DiskDaemon> 122.0 MB of display memory, and Minecraft minimum requirements are around 8 time larger than that, at 1 gig of memory.
#188 [01:41] <DiskDaemon> Also http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance#Hardware_requirements
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#191 [01:42] <mib_3q59gm> where can i po?st bugs i found on minecraft
#192 [01:42] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs
#193 [01:42] <Elystus> Which version of minecraft?
#194 [01:42] <DiskDaemon> What bug?
#195 [01:43] <mib_3q59gm> the pre-release
#196 [01:43] <mib_3q59gm> tripwires turn off redstone torches, but not the device
#197 [01:43] <Elystus> What is the bug?
#198 [01:44] <DiskDaemon> In the 12w25a pre-release?
#199 [01:44] <mib_3q59gm> yes
#200 [01:44] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_12w25a
#201 [01:44] <mib_3q59gm> thank you
#202 [01:45] <DiskDaemon> That's where you can post detailed information about the bug. Provid enough info so that others can easily confirm if the bug still exists after other updates
#203 [01:46] <DiskDaemon> mib_3q59gm: Also - "You'd better read the instructions before posting an issue or modifying this page, lest raptors from the depths of the intertubes attack you and devour your liver."
#204 [01:46] <mib_3q59gm> yeah, thanks
#205 [01:47] <Elystus> Its true... thats how we lost Jimmy.
#206 [01:47] * DiskDaemon heads off for dinner
#206 [01:47] * Elystus mourns for Jimmy.
#206 [01:49] <pyromaniac> how do you do the purple ?
#207 [01:49] <pyromaniac> whats the purple for ?
#208 [01:50] <Elystus> its /me
#209 [01:50] <Elystus> Its often used for when you want to do an action
#210 [01:50] <Elystus> it puts your name there by default.
#211 [01:50] <Elystus> and that cannot be changed. I worded that oddly lol.
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#217 [02:16] <pyromaniac> well thanks to all you guys for helping me im gona go to bed now but you save me a huge amount of time so..thanks
#218 [02:16] <Elystus> Night! L)
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#220 [02:21] <deadeye> howdy. so how do i make my character respawn in the house i made?
#221 [02:22] <Elystus> You need to make a bed and sleep in it.
#222 [02:22] <Elystus> A bed is 3 wool on top of three wood
#223 [02:22] <deadeye> so if i die i will respawn where i slept?
#224 [02:23] <Elystus> yes
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#226 [02:24] <deadeye> k. also i want to download the entire game onto my computer but when i try downloading the game from the website i just get the linki to the site. any sudgestions?
#227 [02:24] <Elystus> ?
#228 [02:25] <Elystus> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#229 [02:25] <Elystus> download from there
#230 [02:25] <Elystus> It should give you the launcher, which will be located in the download folder. Start that and log in.
#231 [02:26] <deadeye> k ill give it a shot. tks
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#234 [02:49] <RoidRage> Why does my game keep getting an error "out of memory"?
#235 [02:54] <RoidRage> Anyone here?
#236 [02:56] <Scott> because...
#237 [02:56] <Scott> you're running out of memory
#238 [02:57] <Elystus> ??> index
#239 [02:57] <Elystus> >> ?
#240 [02:58] <RoidRage> Obviously.... How do I fix that
#241 [02:59] <Elystus> you could try allocating more memory
#242 [02:59] <Elystus> ?? RoidRage win/client/moreram
#243 [03:00] <Elystus> ??Roidrage win/client/moreram
#244 [03:00] <RoidRage> ?
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#246 [03:01] <Elystus> ??> Roidrage win/client/moreram
#247 [03:01] <VoxelHead> Roidrage: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#248 [03:02] <VoxelHead> Roidrage: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#249 [03:02] <Elystus> There we go.
#250 [03:02] <Elystus> I couldn't remember how to do it.
#251 [03:03] <RoidRage> Thanks, although i'm not very computer smart I don't think I will be able to figure that out
#252 [03:04] <Elystus> just download the file and run it.
#253 [03:04] <RoidRage> I tried got a error
#254 [03:04] <RoidRage> 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#255 [03:05] <Elystus> Hmm hold on
#256 [03:05] <RoidRage> Ok
#257 [03:06] <Elystus> wait, are you on windows?
#258 [03:06] <RoidRage> Yes
#259 [03:07] <Elystus> I think it is outdated, give me a few more moments
#260 [03:07] <RoidRage> ok
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#262 [03:08] <Elystus> No, it isn't. I don't know why it will not work. It works for me.
#263 [03:08] <RoidRage> So all you did was downloaded it, put it on the desktop and ran it?
#264 [03:08] <Elystus> It says that java is not recognized when you try to run the bat file?
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#266 [03:09] <Elystus> Not even, I just ran it straight from the download folder. But, the area it is in should not matter.
#267 [03:09] <Elystus> Do you get a full error report when you crash?
#268 [03:10] <RoidRage> Well whenever I open the bat file it creates a separate text file saying error log and inside it I get the error 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#269 [03:10] <RoidRage> I have the latest java
#270 [03:10] <Elystus> you do not open it, you just run it
#271 [03:11] <Elystus> You have java 7?
#272 [03:11] <RoidRage> yes
#273 [03:11] <RoidRage> Just run it?
#274 [03:11] <Elystus> I am not entirely sure that it is the issue, but there is a good chance that it is.
#275 [03:11] <RoidRage> What do you mean
#276 [03:11] <GreyVulpine> It isn't
#277 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> The cause is that java isn't listed in the environment variables.
#278 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> You have one of three options. 1) provide instead of "java" as a command, provide the absolute path to the java executable in your program directory.
#279 [03:12] <GreyVulpine> 2) add java into your environment variables
#280 [03:13] <GreyVulpine> or 3) uninstall java complete, reinstall java, and hope it adds itself to environment variables
#281 [03:13] <RoidRage> Sure, I'll do whichever I'd prefer to try the first 2 as long as I get some help because the 3rd one I can do on my own but will take time
#282 [03:14] <GreyVulpine> Tell me what you have in the .bat file so far
#283 [03:15] <RoidRage> @echo off java -Xmx1500M -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#284 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Why.. are.
#285 [03:15] * GreyVulpine blinks
#285 [03:15] <GreyVulpine> Okay then.
#286 [03:16] <RoidRage> ?
#287 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Windows, yes?
#288 [03:17] <RoidRage> Correct
#289 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Version?
#290 [03:17] <RoidRage> 7
#291 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Start menu -> computer -> C: drive. Tell me if you have program files or program files (x86)
#292 [03:17] <RoidRage> I do
#293 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Which one?
#294 [03:17] <GreyVulpine> Both?
#295 [03:17] <RoidRage> Both
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#297 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Let's try program files (x86) first.
#298 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Tell me if you see a java folder there
#299 [03:18] <RoidRage> See it
#300 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Alright, Go inside. What is the name of the folder there
#301 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> jre6? jre7?
#302 [03:18] <RoidRage> Both
#303 [03:18] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Which one do you want to use?
#304 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> This will impact the path I'm going to have you modify the bat file with
#305 [03:19] <RoidRage> Well which one would you advise?
#306 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> If you don't have a preference, I'll suggest 6
#307 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> It's.. more stable
#308 [03:19] <RoidRage> ok, 6 it is
#309 [03:19] <duck> Hello I am having trouble purchasing Minecraft I have tried 2 serperate paypal account to no avail then tried the credit card on its own but it says it was declined by my bank..... I then went to test it at another site and purchased somthing without a problem.... can anyone help me I want to buy minecraft so bad I cant take it any more
#310 [03:19] <GreyVulpine> Alright. So. C:\Program files (x86)\java\jre6\bin\java.exe
#311 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> Does that look right to you?
#312 [03:20] <Elystus> Duck what type of card are you trying to purchase it with?
#313 [03:20] <GreyVulpine> duck - Then you'll need to talk to your bank to find out why it's being declined
#314 [03:20] <duck> Visa
#315 [03:20] <duck> bank says no problem
#316 [03:20] <duck> says it is the site
#317 [03:20] <duck> been trying for 5 days
#318 [03:20] <RoidRage> Grey, there is many things inside the bin folder
#319 [03:20] <duck> :'(
#320 [03:20] <Elystus> Visa should work. I would call Paypal and ask them what the issue is. The issue lies with Paypal.
#321 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> Are you using moneybookers or paypal?
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#323 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> The main payment method is moneybookers, if you're choosing a credit card.
#324 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> It'll go to paypal, if you choose paypal
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#326 [03:21] <GreyVulpine> RoidRage - I understand that. Go back to your .bat file
#327 [03:21] <Elystus> He said he tried two paypal accounts
#328 [03:21] <RoidRage> ok
#329 [03:21] <duck> I have tried Visa, Paypal and MoneyBookers all of them say diffrent things about why it wont work O_O
#330 [03:22] <Elystus> and the card itself was rejected by moneybookers.
#331 [03:22] <Elystus> Wait, is it by anychance a giftcard?
#332 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> RoidRage - Alright. Let me see if I have this right.
#333 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> @echo off java -Xmx1500M -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#334 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> The First line is @echo off, the second is everything else, right?
#335 [03:22] <RoidRage> yes
#336 [03:22] <RoidRage> that is correct
#337 [03:22] <duck> the thing is I am currently staying in Vietnam on holiday and I dont think moneybookers will accept my IP
#338 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Right.
#339 [03:22] <GreyVulpine> Leave the first line as is. The second, you'll change to:
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#341 [03:23] <Elystus> That could be the issue duck, but are you using a visa giftcard?
#342 [03:23] <duck> no
#343 [03:23] <duck> I might call someone back in the US to use their card and gift me the game... will this be easy?
#344 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#345 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> They pay for minecraft, get a gift code
#346 [03:24] <Elystus> Okay, ten i is probably because you are in Vietnam. If it does not work when you get back, then contact Moneybookers/Paypal as to what the issue is.
#347 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> You redeem it at your minecraft.net profile page
#348 [03:24] <Elystus> And yes it would work.
#349 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> "c:\program files (x86)\java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#350 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Include those quotes
#351 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Also, notice I'm specifying the .jar, please download minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download
#352 [03:24] <RoidRage> ok
#353 [03:24] <GreyVulpine> Place it in the same folder where you have the b.bat
#354 [03:25] <duck> ok I'll try that then I think paypay and moneybookers have a problem with vietnam thanks for the help now I just need to find a way to occupy myself for 5 hours until the suncomes up in the west =.=
#355 [03:25] <RoidRage> What should I save the .bat as?
#356 [03:25] <GreyVulpine> Anything you wish
#357 [03:26] <RoidRage> Grey
#358 [03:26] <RoidRage> There is no .jar download on a version for windows
#359 [03:26] <GreyVulpine> Expand, it'll be under linux
#360 [03:27] <RoidRage> oh, ok
#361 [03:27] <RoidRage> What is the b.bat?
#362 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> sorry, typo
#363 [03:27] <GreyVulpine> Just anything ending in .bat
#364 [03:28] <RoidRage> So I need to make a new folder and put the .bat and the .jar in it?
#365 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#366 [03:28] <RoidRage> Can the folder be anywhere?
#367 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#368 [03:28] <RoidRage> And any name?
#369 [03:28] <GreyVulpine> Right
#370 [03:28] <RoidRage> Ok
#371 [03:29] <RoidRage> Ok once that is done
#372 [03:29] <RoidRage> Run it?
#373 [03:30] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#374 [03:36] <RoidRage> Ok, it works thanks bud
#375 [03:36] <RoidRage> Hopefully no more errors
#376 [03:37] <Elystus> Grey how would you add java into your enviroment variables?
#377 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the version of windows
#378 [03:37] <GreyVulpine> I would still go through the same process of determining the path to java.
#379 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> System environment variables are located (under win7), when you right click on Computer, and go to properties. Along the left panel is advanced system settings.
#380 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> There'll be a button for environment variables along the bottom. You press that, then along the bottom half for a Path variable.
#381 [03:39] <Elystus> okay I understand now. Thanks
#382 [03:39] <Elystus> I need to learn more about Java.
#383 [03:39] <GreyVulpine> You then add the path (everything minus the java.exe) to it
#384 [03:39] <Elystus> okay, thank you :)
#385 [03:39] * GreyVulpine nods
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#386 [04:01] <RoidRage> Welp... that .bat file didn't help same problem "out of memory" any other suggestions?
#387 [04:03] <GreyVulpine> How much RAM do you have on the system?
#388 [04:04] <RoidRage> Let me check
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#390 [04:05] <RoidRage> 6 RAM
#391 [04:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. alright
#392 [04:10] <RoidRage> Is 6 RAM to little?
#393 [04:11] <Necrodoom> 6GB ram is high
#394 [04:11] <Necrodoom> MC uses around 1 GB ram max
#395 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> Should be plenty. Easiest way to do this, is to completely nuke all java from your system, and install only the 64 bit version of java from:
#396 [04:11] <Necrodoom> well, on start peak
#397 [04:11] <GreyVulpine> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#398 [04:11] <RoidRage> Even if I'm running 32-bit?
#399 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Wait, you're on 32 bit windows 7 with 6 gigs of RAM?
#400 [04:12] <RoidRage> yes
#401 [04:12] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't.. compute.
#402 [04:12] <RoidRage> Nvm.
#403 [04:12] <RoidRage> I'm dumb
#404 [04:12] <RoidRage> 64 bit
#405 [04:13] <RoidRage> Am I going to need the .bat file still or no?
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#407 [04:16] <GreyVulpine> No
#408 [04:16] <RoidRage> Ok
#409 [04:16] <RoidRage> Java 64-bit version 6 update 33?
#410 [04:16] <auscompgeek> Yes.
#411 [04:16] <RoidRage> Windows version.
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#414 [04:59] <kamuinoir> good evening all! I have a question. I get stuck on update or Loading even after I deleted my .bin and uninstalled AVG I cant figure it out i was playing just fine about an hour ago
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#416 [05:17] <Blueeyez> others there can't log on minecraft using the mc client?
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#419 [05:35] <Madcows> I have a huge project that needs help, its been the LAST part of my epic machine but I cant for the life of me find out how to both add and remove fuel cans to a generator with the use of pipes. It seems every face is out to pull from the top except the bottom
#420 [05:35] <Madcows> and I cant have a tube go two ways from the bottom :(
#421 [05:35] <Necrodoom> fuel cans?
#422 [05:35] <Madcows> Filled fuel can
#423 [05:36] <Necrodoom> you sure you on the right channel?
#424 [05:36] <Madcows> lol hah! yeah maaaah bad.
#425 [05:41] <MrSuarezzz> recently just upgraded to premium, when i downloaded the minecraft launcher and try to log in it says "cant connect to minecraft.net" and when i try to play in browser it just stays on a java loading screen the comes up with a little red error in the top left corner, tried allsorts of things like installing different versions of java reinstalling java, firewall... but still cant get it to work
#426 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> MrSuarezzz: Okay, we can help with that there.
#427 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> Does the upper part of the launcher have any strange text in it?
#428 [05:46] <MrSuarezzz> nope the launcher shows the minecraft news page
#429 [05:46] <GreyVulpine> Were you playing minecraft before upgrading to premium?
#430 [05:46] <DiskDaemon> Good, which means that it's most likely an antivirus program that's preventing the launcher from updating the files.
#431 [05:46] <DiskDaemon> You can deal with that by temporarily diabling your antivirus program and then trying the update again.
#432 [05:48] * DiskDaemon just returned from the Brave movie. It's a ripping yarn and well told
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#440 [06:16] <MrSuarezzz> tried your advice disk deamon still cant get my minecraft to work both the launcher and the web borwser but now on the launcher instead of the minecraft news page it has coded text at the top
#441 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, good. That means that your Java 7 is trying to communicate with minecraft.net using IPv6, when minecraft.net doesn't yet support IPv6.
#442 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Here's a page with some details on how to deal with that. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
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#445 [06:19] <tikker> how are these ??> keyword actions done?
#446 [06:19] <DiskDaemon> ?? help
#447 [06:19] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#448 [06:19] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#449 [06:19] <tikker> no i mean how to do it
#450 [06:19] <tikker> in a channel
#451 [06:19] <tikker> how to set it up
#452 [06:20] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, on creating a bot itself. That's something for smarter people than me
#453 [06:20] <tikker> anyone who can help? :)
#454 [06:21] <DiskDaemon> skybot is one with it's code openly available, which you can use to study and learn from
#455 [06:24] <tikker> is this it: https://bitbucket.org/Scaevolus/skybot/src/0428a26b2c4e/irc.py
#456 [06:24] <tikker> ?
#457 [06:24] <DiskDaemon> That looks like the right place
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#462 [06:37] <MrSuarezzz> I have also done that disk deamon i am only running java 6.32 jre and i'm still getting the same coded text
#463 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so something else seems to be interfering with its ability to connect with minecraft.net
#464 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> What do you see when you go to https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#465 [06:39] <MrSuarezzz> it says bad login
#466 [06:40] <DiskDaemon> That's good, so you can access the login section fine
#467 [06:40] <DiskDaemon> Are there any other details that you can give that might be of some help?
#468 [06:41] <MrSuarezzz> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html> this is the code i get which is still mentioning java
#469 [06:42] <DiskDaemon> What else could be stopping the launcher from connecting. A firewall perhaps?
#470 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> MrSuarezzz: Can we find out if you have more than one java installed in your system.
#471 [06:44] <DiskDaemon> In the control panel, search for Java, and in that java panel open the Java tab, and click on the View button
#472 [06:46] <MrSuarezzz> ahh it looks like i have two running a platform 1.7 and 1.6
#473 [06:46] <DiskDaemon> Right, it will be the 1.7 that the launcher is using. In that same View area, you can add a runtime parameters for the 1.7 version
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#475 [06:49] <MrSuarezzz> what should i add to the run time parameters and also should this be done in the user or the system tab, just cheacking
#476 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> Try it with the system tab first. The parameters to add are shown at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#477 [06:51] <DiskDaemon> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
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#482 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> MrSuarezzz: Another solution is to create a batch file that loads minecraft.exe with the appropriate preferences.
#483 [06:57] <DiskDaemon> java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
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#485 [07:03] <MrSuarezzz> Still the same problem even with the perameters put in
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#487 [07:05] <MrSuarezzz> DiskDeamon, Still the same problem even with the perameters put in
#488 [07:05] <DiskDaemon> MrSuarezzz: Did you restart the computer afterwards? Failing that, try the user area instead of the system one. Failing that, we'll create a separate batch file for loading Minecraft with those parameters. Failing that, there are other steps that can be taken
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#492 [07:11] <MrSuarezzz> DiskDeamon, just restarted my computer still hasnt changed anything
#493 [07:11] <DiskDaemon> Which place wre the parameters put in. The system section or the user section?
#494 [07:12] <MrSuarezzz> the system section
#495 [07:12] <DiskDaemon> Okay, give the user section a try this time around.
#496 [07:13] <DiskDaemon> If that's still not showing results, we can perform a test afterwards from the command line and then create a batch file to load Minecraft with what was tested to have results
#497 [07:14] <MrSuarezzz> for some reason it wont allow me to enter peramiters into the system section, but once i put the peramiters into the user section then applied it, it was then added to the system peramiters
#498 [07:15] <DiskDaemon> If you tried to start Minecraft with those parameters in both sections, we can remove them and move on to the next stage
#499 [07:16] <MrSuarezzz> yes i have tried both stes with the peramiters and still not able to connect to minecraft.net
#500 [07:17] <Kamal> Is MC 1.3 out?
#501 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> no
#502 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> MrSuarezzz: Do you know how to create a batch file?
#503 [07:18] <MrSuarezzz> not a clue, sorry
#504 [07:18] <Kamal> I do
#505 [07:18] <DiskDaemon> It's okay, I'll put one up so that you can download it
#506 [07:18] <MrSuarezzz> thankyou
#507 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> Download this file and put it in the same folder that contains the minecraft.exe launcher file http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38939323/minecraft/minecraft-ipv4.bat
#508 [07:21] <Kamal> I just installed a mod, i get this error
#509 [07:21] <Kamal> Exception in thread "Thread-5" java.lang.VerifyError: (class: aos, method: <clinit> signature: ()V) Bad type in putfield/putstatic
#510 [07:21] <Kamal> is it the mod's fault? I never had this error before o.O
#511 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#512 [07:21] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#513 [07:21] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#514 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> Kamal: If you still get the same error with a clean miencraft install, we can help you with that
#515 [07:22] <Kamal> well, i was asking if it was the mod's fault
#516 [07:23] <DiskDaemon> Guess how we can tell if it's the mod's fault.
#517 [07:23] <DiskDaemon> See if the same problem happens with no mods, back with a clean install.
#518 [07:26] <MrSuarezzz> Disk Deamon, i do not have a minecraft launcher file just the minecraft shorcut, also when i go via %appdata% when i click on mincraft. thers nothing there
#519 [07:27] <DiskDaemon> MrSuarezzz: You can find out the location of your minecraft.exe launcher file by right-clicking on the shortcut, choose properties and then the button to open the file location
#520 [07:31] <MrSuarezzz> it doesnt show me it just shows me the location of where the shortcut is which is just threw users,my name, then desktop.
#521 [07:31] <DiskDaemon> When you right-click on the shortcut and choose properties, so you get a dialog with a series of tabs, one of those tabs being called Shortcut?
#522 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> The "Target" shows you the exact path to the minecraft.exe file. The "Start in" shows you the folder that the minecraft.exe file is in. The "Open file location" opens an explorer window in the folder where the minecraft.exe file is located, and highlights the file for you.
#523 [07:34] <MrSuarezzz> the tabs i get are general,security,copatibility,details,previous versions and archive, non of which you have mentioned are there
#524 [07:35] <DiskDaemon> Therefore, it is not a shortcut.
#525 [07:35] <DiskDaemon> It is the minecraft.exe file itself, which you can confirm on the General tab as the Description
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#527 [07:37] <MrSuarezzz> my bad, yes type of file application (.exe) so i should put the batch file into a file with that ?
#528 [07:37] <DiskDaemon> correct
#529 [07:37] <Xenn90> So, question about my skin, my character is walking on his head, I tried doing a clean install and nothing changed, anyone know why?
#530 [07:37] <DiskDaemon> Xenn90: Your skin is upside down
#531 [07:38] <Xenn90> Correct.
#532 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> Do you have a custom skin?
#533 [07:38] <Xenn90> No custom anything atm.
#534 [07:38] <Necrodoom> you mean the entity itself is upsidedown?
#535 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> Xenn90: Wow, that really is an odd error.
#536 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> Possibly caused from something strange with the graphics drivers
#537 [07:39] <Xenn90> Well it was normal.
#538 [07:39] <Xenn90> then i started playing online and someone pointed it out to me.
#539 [07:39] <Necrodoom> xen, the skin or the entity?
#540 [07:39] <Xenn90> Umm...
#541 [07:39] <Xenn90> Entity.
#542 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> Are you able to confirm foy yourself and for us, via a screenshot, that it's upside down?
#543 [07:39] <Xenn90> Yarly, give me a moment. How does one do 3rd person shots?
#544 [07:39] <Necrodoom> has anyone else said it looks upsidedown except that person?
#545 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> Because I haven't seen or heard of that before. I've love to see a shot of it.
#546 [07:40] <Necrodoom> F5
#547 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> And F2 for the screenshot
#548 [07:40] <Xenn90> And how do I view myself from the front?
#549 [07:40] <Necrodoom> again F5
#550 [07:41] <Xenn90> Kk hold on
#551 [07:41] <MrSuarezzz> ok it seems like i am finally up and running thanks alot for the patients and co-operation disk deamon !
#552 [07:41] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#553 [07:42] <Xenn90> http://i49.tinypic.com/jtm3w0.jpg
#554 [07:43] <DiskDaemon> Wow, I am impressed
#555 [07:43] <Xenn90> Did I hit a bug no one else has? XD
#556 [07:44] <Necrodoom> the player looks kind off.. 2D
#557 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> Nickname?
#558 [07:44] <DiskDaemon> So it seems. Is it only on that one computer that the issue occurs? Or does it happen too when you log in to minecraft on a different machine?
#559 [07:44] <Necrodoom> and the nickname is missing
#560 [07:44] <GreyVulpine> Remember that skins are saved remotely..
#561 [07:44] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: single player
#562 [07:44] <Xenn90> I don't have another machine. I'm using the umm... MinecraftSP that's downloaded from mineraft.net.
#563 [07:44] <Xenn90> minecraft.net*
#564 [07:44] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#564 [07:45] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: *facepalm on self*
#565 [07:45] <Xenn90> Also I turned everything in video to low and/or off because when i play, Red is kind of... Displaced on everything.
#566 [07:45] <Necrodoom> but it looks kind of 2D
#567 [07:45] <GreyVulpine> Xenn90 - Did you pay for an account?
#568 [07:45] <Xenn90> Because I turned umm, let me load options up
#569 [07:46] <Xenn90> I did not. I intended on playing with my friend via hamachi, I won't lie.
#570 [07:46] <DiskDaemon> Here's a video of someone else with a similar glitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6_HpCauxqw
#571 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> First off, you did not get MinecraftSP from minecraft.net
#572 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> It's not an offcial client.
#573 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> It's not even a client written by Mojang.
#574 [07:46] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: unoffical client
#575 [07:46] <DiskDaemon> That would explain it
#576 [07:46] <Necrodoom> i think its client related more than anything
#577 [07:47] <Necrodoom> that and why another player could see him up side down
#578 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftSP is a cracked client, with the single player files already packaged inside it, including that particular skin
#579 [07:47] <Xenn90> Oh, I thought that was the one I was loading from the site...
#580 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> There's no bug with the client, it's just how that particular third-party minecraft client is.
#581 [07:47] <GreyVulpine> It is not
#582 [07:47] <Xenn90> Then that's probably my problem.
#583 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> sorry Xenn90 - you get what you pay for :)
#584 [07:49] <Xenn90> Hm, okay, I think I know how I can fix it then..
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#587 [07:57] <Xenn90> Oh well, well, I thank you anyways.
#588 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#589 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> and thanks for the entertainment. it was fun
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#597 [08:45] <keithly> How can I buy a dedicated IP? Do I need to buy a domain?
#598 [08:46] <tikker> i believe so
#599 [08:46] <tikker> but i'm not sure
#600 [08:47] <tikker> i've been reading about account migrations, what is that?
#601 [08:47] <tikker> i never did it, but i'm hearing lots of (past) complains about it
#602 [08:47] <Necrodoom> migrating from minecraft site to mojang site
#603 [08:48] <tikker> what are the pro's / con's
#604 [08:48] <Necrodoom> i dont know if theres pros.
#605 [08:48] <DiskDaemon> pro - ability to change username
#606 [08:48] <tikker> o wait
#607 [08:48] <tikker> doesn't it have to do something with a one-account-for-all thing?
#608 [08:49] <DiskDaemon> account access with email address won't be tied to the username, so yes. Potential for one account to manage multiple games
#609 [08:49] <tikker> though i'm a bit scared
#610 [08:49] <tikker> of the fails
#611 [08:50] <tikker> don't want to lose my acc. :/
#612 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> how will you lose your account?
#613 [08:55] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: you remember how people complain they cant log in after migrating, right?
#614 [08:56] <DiskDaemon> Yes, we haven't found out why a few have such troubles. With most everyone else things go fine
#615 [08:57] <Necrodoom> looks like more than a few
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#622 [10:06] <Lukepro> Minecraft got deleted from my PC by accident. How can i get it back with out paying again
#623 [10:06] <Andrio> Force update?
#624 [10:06] <Lukepro> How do i do that
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#626 [10:07] <Andrio> I believe there's an option in the launcher. Do you still have the launcher?
#627 [10:07] <Mro> sup guys
#628 [10:07] <Lukepro> Can any one help me with my problem
#629 [10:07] <Mro> what problem?
#630 [10:07] <Andrio> [00:05:40] <Lukepro> Minecraft got deleted from my PC by accident. How can i get it back with out paying again
#631 [10:08] <Lukepro> yup
#632 [10:08] <Mro> www.minecraft.net hit download
#633 [10:08] <Mro> you want the client
#634 [10:08] <Mro> then use your login details and your off :
#635 [10:08] <Mro> :)
#636 [10:08] <Lukepro> let me try . thanks
#637 [10:09] <Lukepro> when i click download what do click after that cuzz i tryed downloding Minecraft For Windows.
#638 [10:10] <Mro> save
#639 [10:10] <Mro> for example
#640 [10:10] <Mro> save it to your desktop
#641 [10:10] <Mro> then you know where it is when its finished downloading
#642 [10:11] <Lukepro> it just asks to run it or cancel
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#644 [10:13] <Lukepro> do you guys know a Number i can call to ask them
#645 [10:13] <Mro> what web-browser are you using?
#646 [10:13] <Lukepro> google chrome
#647 [10:14] <Mro> there should be a save option
#648 [10:14] <lutzee> It will be saved in your users downloads folder
#649 [10:14] <Mro> or taht ^
#650 [10:14] <Mro> that*
#651 [10:14] * lutzee is a chrome user ;)
#651 [10:14] <lutzee> pressing run should work anyway
#652 [10:14] <Mro> dont diss chrome lol
#653 [10:14] * Andrio is also a Chrome user. :)
#653 [10:14] <Mro> besides its major setbacks, its faster than any other browser
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#655 [10:15] <Andrio> It doesn't freeze all the time like IE does, for one thing.
#656 [10:15] <Lukepro> Ok i will try
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#660 [10:16] <Mro> sorry yeah hit run on installation
#661 [10:17] <Mro> im miles away :S
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#663 [10:17] <majorkronic> If I buy minecraft and DL it to this PC, can I still play Minecraft offline on a different PC if I also download it to there?
#664 [10:17] <Andrio> You can play offline on any PC that you have previously logged on and downloaded it to, AFAIK.
#665 [10:18] <Andrio> 380 seconds...
#666 [10:18] <lutzee> if minecraft is installed on a PC, you can play in offline mode, if you have an account and the PC is connected to the internet
#667 [10:18] <majorkronic> So I only have to buy one copy of it, but I can log in and dowload it elsewhere?
#668 [10:18] <Mro> you can paly online providing you can remember your login details
#669 [10:18] <lutzee> you can log in and play online
#670 [10:18] <lutzee> Yes
#671 [10:18] <Mro> yeah just the one copy
#672 [10:18] <majorkronic> Thank you so much =] I am prolly gonna buy it now
#673 [10:18] <majorkronic> xD
#674 [10:18] <Mro> like some of us here we have alt's :p
#675 [10:19] <lutzee> You purchase an account giving access to the game
#676 [10:19] <majorkronic> Oh, that's how ti works
#677 [10:19] <Mro> yeah
#678 [10:19] <majorkronic> you buy an access code or something?
#679 [10:19] <Mro> no
#680 [10:19] <Mro> you buy a username and password
#681 [10:19] <Mro> that you should remember
#682 [10:19] <Mro> then you can paly on any computer
#683 [10:19] <Mro> play*
#684 [10:19] <majorkronic> Interesting. Very good idea if you think about it.
#685 [10:19] <Mro> yeah
#686 [10:20] <majorkronic> TY Mro and every1 else =]
#687 [10:20] <Mro> :)
#688 [10:20] <Lukepro> You guys know a number i can call . like custmer service
#689 [10:20] <majorkronic> This is customer service! lol
#690 [10:20] <Mro> your still trying to download?
#691 [10:20] <Mro> not quite nic ;)
#692 [10:20] <Lukepro> its not working
#693 [10:20] <Mro> press CTRL+ALT+DEL
#694 [10:20] <Mro> then go to processes
#695 [10:20] <Lukepro> ok
#696 [10:20] <Mro> task amnager > processes
#697 [10:21] <Mro> manager*
#698 [10:21] <Lukepro> and?
#699 [10:21] <Mro> scroll down and look for javaw.exe
#700 [10:21] <Lukepro> o
#701 [10:21] <Lukepro> ok
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#703 [10:21] <Mro> sup snuffy
#704 [10:22] <Mro> luke
#705 [10:22] <Lukepro> yeah
#706 [10:22] <Mro> what OS are you running?
#707 [10:23] <Lukepro> i can t find javaw.exe
#708 [10:23] <Mro> previous question lol
#709 [10:23] <Mro> OS?
#710 [10:23] <Lukepro> what is OS
#711 [10:23] <Mro> operating system (MAC LINUX WINDOWS?)
#712 [10:23] <Lukepro> windows
#713 [10:24] <Mro> UbUnTu?
#714 [10:24] <Mro> click start
#715 [10:24] <Lukepro> ok
#716 [10:24] <Mro> documents
#717 [10:24] <Lukepro> ok
#718 [10:24] <Mro> downloads
#719 [10:24] <Lukepro> ok
#720 [10:24] <Mro> and look for minecraft.exe
#721 [10:24] <Mro> then double click it
#722 [10:25] <Lukepro> umm
#723 [10:25] <Lukepro> no minecraft.exe . but i have like 5 minecrafts because i tryed downloading it again and non of them worked
#724 [10:26] <Mro> then update java
#725 [10:26] <lutzee> yeah they will be what you are looking for
#726 [10:26] <lutzee> just the .exe bit is hidden
#727 [10:26] <Mro> is the symbol still the dirt block?
#728 [10:26] <Lukepro> yeah
#729 [10:26] <Mro> thats the one you want
#730 [10:26] <Mro> if it doesnt load
#731 [10:26] <Mro> take onn some background processes
#732 [10:26] <Mro> off*
#733 [10:27] <Lukepro> umm ok but all of the minecracfts
#734 [10:27] <Lukepro> have dirt blocks
#735 [10:27] <Lukepro> should i delete all of them except for the original one
#736 [10:27] <lutzee> yeah
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#738 [10:28] <Lukepro> ok i just did
#739 [10:28] <Lukepro> and java is updated
#740 [10:28] <Mro> java6 or 7 and 32bit or 64bit?
#741 [10:28] <lutzee> now run the orignial one
#742 [10:28] <Mro> ^
#743 [10:28] <Lukepro> um hold on one sec
#744 [10:29] <Lukepro> how do i figure out what java it is
#745 [10:30] <lutzee> don't worry about that yet
#746 [10:30] <Lukepro> ok
#747 [10:30] <lutzee> Does the launcher start?
#748 [10:31] <Lukepro> no when i click minecraft it just has the loading circle around the mouse and then it stops and nothing happens
#749 [10:31] <lutzee> okay
#750 [10:32] <Lukepro> should i run with adminsitrator
#751 [10:32] <Mro> that might work yano
#752 [10:32] <Lukepro> ok hold on
#753 [10:33] <Lukepro> it still does not open
#754 [10:33] <lutzee> okay, i'm going to assume java isn't installed, you can get it hre http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javasebusiness/downloads/java-archive-downloads-javase6-419409.html#jre-6u32-oth-JPR
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#756 [10:33] <lutzee> download the windows x64 if you have a 64bit PC
#757 [10:33] <Mro> x86 for 64 bit
#758 [10:34] <Lukepro> i have installed
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#760 [10:35] <Mro> wb snuffy
#761 [10:35] <Lukepro> What?
#762 [10:35] <Lukepro> What?
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#764 [10:36] <Lukepro> O gosh
#765 [10:36] <Lukepro> this is complicated
#766 [10:36] <Lukepro> umm
#767 [10:37] <Lukepro> it says next to the minecraft in downloads that it is 264 kb
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#769 [10:38] <Lukepro> So there is no # i can call to get help from
#770 [10:39] <Mro> 2 secs ill try dig out a number
#771 [10:39] <KingOfChaos> hi. how can i enlarge a region with worldguard ?
#772 [10:39] <lutzee> Lukepro, no there isn't
#773 [10:39] <lutzee> Mojang is a team of ~25 people,
#774 [10:39] <Lukepro> wow
#775 [10:39] <Mro> tworldguard?
#776 [10:39] <Mro> errrmmm
#777 [10:39] <Mro> luke use this link
#778 [10:39] <Mro> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325960-how-do-i-run-the-game-on-my-computer-
#779 [10:39] <lutzee> KingOfChaos, ask in #bukkiyt
#780 [10:40] <lutzee> er #bukkit
#781 [10:40] <Mro> im a plugins geek
#782 [10:40] <Mro> but i dont deal with worldguard
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#784 [10:40] <Mro> sorry bro
#785 [10:41] <Mro> anyone need server assistance? ;)
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#787 [10:43] <Mro> ooooooo
#788 [10:43] <Calinou> no :P
#789 [10:43] <Calinou> <Mro> x86 for 64 bit
#790 [10:43] <Calinou> no -_-
#791 [10:44] <Calinou> x64 64 bit, x86 32 bit
#792 [10:44] <Calinou> actually x86_64 is 64 bit, but x64 is shorter :P
#793 [10:44] <Mro> O_o
#794 [10:45] <lutzee> he is roght you know
#795 [10:45] <Calinou> roght?
#796 [10:45] <lutzee> x86 is just built for both platforms
#797 [10:45] <lutzee> right*
#798 [10:45] <Calinou> yes, but it uses a compat layer to run on 64bit OS
#799 [10:45] <Calinou> > slow
#800 [10:46] <Mro> what happnd to luke? lol
#801 [10:47] <Calinou> skywalker
#802 [10:47] <Mro> hah
#803 [10:48] <Calinou> Lukepro, one does not simply "call" a channel. you join them. ;)
#804 [10:49] <Mro> eh? O_o
#805 [10:49] <lutzee> Mro you enjoy webchat?
#806 [10:49] <Mro> meh only here coz im bored
#807 [10:50] <Mro> l l l
#808 [10:50] <Mro> l l l
#809 [10:50] <Mro> l l l
#810 [10:50] <Mro> l l l
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#812 [10:51] <Mro> bobob?
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#814 [10:51] <Mro> eye need a smoke brb
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#817 [10:55] <tech> hi
#818 [10:55] <tech> anyone there?
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#820 [10:55] <tech> i need help
#821 [10:55] <tech> sombody there?
#822 [10:55] <Andrio> yeah?
#823 [10:55] <Andrio> What's the problem?
#824 [10:56] <tech> when using mcp
#825 [10:56] <tech> i have got my recompiled folder
#826 [10:56] <tech> how do i put it in to effect
#827 [10:56] <tech> so i can start the editied client
#828 [10:56] <tech> how do i start the edited client
#829 [10:57] <Andrio> Sorry, I'm not familiar with MCP.
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#831 [10:57] <tech> fabian
#832 [10:57] <tech> are you familiar with mcp
#833 [10:58] <Fabian9696> maybe, what do you need?
#834 [10:58] <tech> if so, i have a quick question
#835 [10:58] <Fabian9696> go ahead
#836 [10:58] <tech> i have modded the clent
#837 [10:58] <tech> and it recompiled it
#838 [10:58] <tech> how do i get it to work
#839 [10:58] <tech> withotu eclipse
#840 [10:58] <tech> or the start client
#841 [10:58] <tech> bat
#842 [10:59] <tech> what doi do with the bin folder to make it work
#843 [10:59] <tech> how do i trigger the Mincraft class
#844 [10:59] <Fabian9696> hmm... Im not that good, have you tried redownload it?
#845 [10:59] <tech> to start
#846 [10:59] <tech> redownload what
#847 [11:00] <Fabian9696> nothing, sorry anyway I will try and get someone to help ypu
#848 [11:00] <Fabian9696> you*
#849 [11:00] <tech> thank you very much
#850 [11:00] <tech> thank you very much
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#854 [11:05] <lutzee> tech, ask in #mcp
#855 [11:06] <bellows> Hey guys, my computer right now has a default gateway that i cannot get into
#856 [11:06] <bellows> can anyone fix that?
#857 [11:06] <lutzee> ddefault gateway is the IP address of your router, you asying you cannot log into your router?
#858 [11:06] <bellows> yeah
#859 [11:07] <bellows> like 192.168.1.1
#860 [11:07] <tech> the suer and apss shoudl be under your modem
#861 [11:07] <tech> unless you have changed it from default
#862 [11:07] <bellows> that doesn't work either
#863 [11:07] <tech> reset your modem
#864 [11:07] <bellows> how do i change it from default?
#865 [11:07] <tech> with a small pin
#866 [11:07] <tech> thumbnail
#867 [11:07] <tech> small hole behidn the modem
#868 [11:07] <bellows> is it red?
#869 [11:08] <tech> ur cgonna lose connection
#870 [11:08] <tech> it can be any color
#871 [11:08] <tech> it is very small
#872 [11:08] <tech> very hard to see
#873 [11:08] <tech> near the power
#874 [11:11] <bellows> okay
#875 [11:11] <bellows> now what
#876 [11:12] <bellows> i resetted it but my default gateway still wont work
#877 [11:12] <Calinou> please don't use enter as punctuation
#878 [11:13] <Calinou> Andrio, we don't help with using MCP here: see #mcp (you might get "yelled at", they don't like people who can't install something)
#879 [11:13] <Andrio> ?
#880 [11:14] <Andrio> tech: ^
#881 [11:15] <lutzee> he's allready there
#882 [11:15] <tech> ?
#883 [11:15] <tech> im trying to help somebody wiht his modem
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#885 [11:20] <bellows> so...
#886 [11:20] <bellows> what do i do?
#887 [11:20] <bellows> my other computer works for 192.168.1.1
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#889 [11:21] <lutzee> wait, so what exactly is the problem?
#890 [11:21] <bellows> so
#891 [11:21] <bellows> my default gateway wont work on this computer
#892 [11:22] <bellows> but on my other computer it works
#893 [11:22] <lutzee> "won
#894 [11:22] <bellows> but my default gateway is different from my other computer
#895 [11:22] <lutzee> "won't work"
#896 [11:22] <lutzee> what do you mean?
#897 [11:22] <lutzee> if they are in the same LAN then the deafault gateway will be the same
#898 [11:22] <DiskDaemon> I'm about to fall asleep, but perhaps some ipconfig info might be of some use for the purposes of diagnoses
#899 [11:22] <bellows> like when i type it in, it says it cant connect
#900 [11:24] <bellows> http://mibpaste.com/MzsR9d
#901 [11:25] <Calinou> ipconfig doesn't tell your external IP
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#903 [11:25] <Calinou> to connect to your computer, use 127.0.0.1
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#905 [11:25] <bellows> that doesn't work
#906 [11:25] <bellows> o-o
#907 [11:25] <Calinou> http://youripis.org < external IP
#908 [11:25] <Pottu> hi guys. i'm having trouble making nether portal
#909 [11:25] <lutzee> "Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 75.82.72.1"
#910 [11:25] <Calinou> tell it to other people if you've port forwarded
#911 [11:25] <bellows> i cant port forward
#912 [11:26] <bellows> that's the thing
#913 [11:26] <Calinou> bellows, it MUST work, else your server isn't started. also, keep the "server-ip" field blank and leave the default port
#914 [11:26] <bellows> i need to get to the website
#915 [11:26] <Pottu> i made a portal and am trying to lit it to fire with flint and steel but nothing happens
#916 [11:26] <bellows> but my default gateway to get to that website wont work
#917 [11:26] <Calinou> you can connect to a local server without port forwarding, people from the internet cannot connect
#918 [11:26] <Pottu> i only get a fire burning inside my portal
#919 [11:26] <Calinou> Pottu, you made it wrong
#920 [11:26] <Calinou> or the server you're playing on doesn't allow portal creation
#921 [11:26] <lutzee> it has to be a set shape
#922 [11:26] <bellows> No, i really want it to be public calinou.
#923 [11:26] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Nether_Portal
#924 [11:26] <bellows> thats the thing
#925 [11:26] <Pottu> it's now 3 high and 3 wide
#926 [11:26] <Calinou> bellows, then port forward. 25565 in TCP is the default port
#927 [11:27] <Calinou> 2 wide 3 high > what it should be
#928 [11:27] <lutzee> the gap must be 3 high 2 wide
#929 [11:27] <Andrio> It has to be 4 high and 3 wide including the frame.
#930 [11:27] <Pottu> ah, ok
#931 [11:27] <Pottu> i
#932 [11:27] <bellows> But I need to get to the website to portforward...
#933 [11:27] <Andrio> 5 high and 4 wide*
#934 [11:27] <Pottu> i'll try that, 3 high and 2 wide
#935 [11:27] <Calinou> Pottu, you should place 10 obsidian blocks normally
#936 [11:28] <Calinou> see the "economy" version
#937 [11:28] <Pottu> ok
#938 [11:28] <DiskDaemon> bellows: What make/model is the the computer connecetd to for its internet?
#939 [11:28] <Pottu> now i got it. it was 2 wide and 3 heigh. thx guys
#940 [11:28] <bellows> Linksys E1000
#941 [11:30] <DiskDaemon> These seem to be the minecraft port forwarding instructions for that device
#942 [11:30] <DiskDaemon> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Linksys/E1000/Minecraft_Server.htm
#943 [11:30] <DiskDaemon> It looks like one of the primary requirements, a static IP address, isn't being met by your system yet though
#944 [11:32] <DiskDaemon> Only after you set up the computer to use a static ip address, you can then use port forwarding to send miencraft server traffic from the router to the server.
#945 [11:32] <DiskDaemon> I cannot help with setting up with a static ip address though
#946 [11:33] * DiskDaemon powers down, hits the hay, turns on in, and goes to sleep
#946 [11:38] <bellows> hey
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#948 [11:47] <Mro> still boreed :S
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#952 [11:48] <Vortex_spear> Hey, can you guys try to connect to my server?
#953 [11:48] <Vortex_spear> 75.82.79.218
#954 [11:48] <|Kiikun|> !check 75.82.79.218
#955 [11:48] <lutzee> Vortex_spear, it works
#956 [11:48] <Vortex_spear> im on the server
#957 [11:48] <|Kiikun|> :P
#958 [11:48] <Vortex_spear> try again
#959 [11:48] * |Kiikun| points up
#959 [11:49] <|Kiikun|> it works.
#960 [11:49] <Vortex_spear> you sure?
#961 [11:49] <Vortex_spear> because i was just on it
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#963 [11:49] <Mro> server? O_o
#964 [11:49] <|Kiikun|> aubot says it s working.
#965 [11:49] <Guest_> Hi, sorry to interrupt. I don't know anything about mods. I'm a player not a server admin, but our "lift up" signs are broken and I heard that craftbook's what is broken. Is there a fix? Will there be one soon?
#966 [11:50] <Mro> download the latest version of craftbook
#967 [11:50] <Necrodoom> Guest_: you missed it by miles
#968 [11:50] <langkid1> Mro, he's not a server admin
#969 [11:50] <|Kiikun|> Guest_: sorry... dont know anythign about mods... check the forum thread for if they have their own help channel?
#970 [11:50] <Mro> o ryte haha
#971 [11:50] <Necrodoom> Guest_: its a plugin for a server handler called bukkit
#972 [11:50] <langkid1> Guest_, all you can do is wait for the owner of your server to update it. So talk to them about it.
#973 [11:50] <Necrodoom> Guest_: and looking at the plugin page
#974 [11:50] <Necrodoom> Guest_: its fine
#975 [11:50] <Guest_> So in the update the bug is fixed?
#976 [11:50] <Necrodoom> Guest_: ask the owner to come here, so people at #sk89q can diagonise it
#977 [11:50] <Guest_> Great!
#978 [11:50] <Guest_> lol
#979 [11:51] <langkid1> Guest_, yes ask the server owner, they don't fix themselves, it requires action by a server admin/owner
#980 [11:51] <Guest_> First I'll try to convince him to update
#981 [11:51] <langkid1> Guest_, /nick <a nickname here!>
#982 [11:51] <Necrodoom> number 1 rule is to make sure all is updated
#983 [11:51] * |Kiikun| pokes lang with a creeper
#983 [11:51] * langkid1 is exploded
#983 [11:52] <|Kiikun|> ew.. got langkid-nuggits in mah hair
#984 [11:52] <langkid1> :[
#985 [11:52] <knod> Ok, just couldn't find out how to check if the bug was fixed :)
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#987 [11:53] <knod> How do I check up on craftbook bugs?
#988 [11:53] <Necrodoom> knod: could be anywhere from not working to no permission, wrong version, etc
#989 [11:53] <Mro> depends what the error says
#990 [11:53] <knod> they just don't work above 128
#991 [11:53] <knod> I don't get any error, just doesn't work
#992 [11:53] <Necrodoom> knod: ask your server owner to come to #sk89q
#993 [11:53] <knod> maybe he gets an error
#994 [11:54] <langkid1> knod, oh, well, you'll have to wait for it to be updated
#995 [11:54] <knod> k, got it
#996 [11:54] <|Kiikun|> wonder if the code was not updated to take the anvil height limits into account :P
#997 [11:54] <Necrodoom> langkid1: depends if its related
#998 [11:54] <langkid1> It's not an error, it just doesn't work, so yeah, updates are necessary
#999 [11:54] <langkid1> also #sk89q is helpful
#1000 [11:54] <langkid1> /join #sk89q
#1001 [11:55] <knod> Do you mean to wait for the admin to update the code, or for bukkit to update it?
#1002 [11:55] <Necrodoom> knod: just tell the server owner to come to #sk89q
#1003 [11:55] <Necrodoom> knod: he knows much more about it
#1004 [11:55] <knod> I'll suggest he goes to #sk89q
#1005 [11:55] <|Kiikun|> knod: mod makers make mods. bukkit team makes bukkit.
#1006 [11:55] <Necrodoom> knod: thus we can help him much better
#1007 [11:55] <knod> ah, ok
#1008 [11:56] <langkid1> knod, yeah, and the server owner should just be able to update the file, see the plugin is a .JAR file that needs to be replaced with a new version
#1009 [11:56] <Mro> ^
#1010 [11:56] <knod> ok, and if he has trouble he goes to #sk89q, right?
#1011 [11:57] <Necrodoom> yes
#1012 [11:57] <knod> Quick before I go, where is a chat for general help with minecraft, not just craftbook?
#1013 [11:57] <Andrio> I think this is it.
#1014 [11:58] <Necrodoom> knod: you mean minecraft servers?
#1015 [11:58] <Mro> #mchelp
#1016 [11:58] <Mro> is this not it?
#1017 [11:58] <|Kiikun|> this is 'minecraft tech support (vanilla only)'
#1018 [11:58] <Mro> ah
#1019 [11:58] <knod> I guess so, I want to ask about lag
#1020 [11:58] <Mro> then #bukkit
#1021 [11:58] <knod> not bukkit lad
#1022 [11:58] <knod> tlag
#1023 [11:58] <knod> regular lag
#1024 [11:58] <Necrodoom> what does that mean
#1025 [11:58] <Necrodoom> lag in client?
#1026 [11:58] <Mro> thers a programme for bukkit that reduces lag? lol
#1027 [11:59] <knod> I found this on craftbook, so I didn't think it was vanilla chat
#1028 [11:59] <knod> no, I'm trying to find out how much memory certain opperations take
#1029 [11:59] <Necrodoom> Mro: its a chunk buffer plugin
#1030 [11:59] <Mro> its not a plugin lol
#1031 [11:59] <Mro> .exe
#1032 [11:59] <|Kiikun|> we help getting people workign to base minecraft. mods and stuff are your own business (and the mod maker's)
#1033 [11:59] <Necrodoom> Mro: an EXE for bukkit? dont think so
#1034 [12:00] <Mro> i do haha
#1035 [12:00] <knod> If I understand correctly, then I'll be able to ask him how much of item "x" we can have before the server lags
#1036 [12:00] <Necrodoom> knod: doesnt work like that, i think
#1037 [12:00] <Necrodoom> most of the MC lag is caused by chunks
#1038 [12:00] <|Kiikun|> nope. server lag depends on ALOT of variables
#1039 [12:00] <knod> I mean, how much memory (ram?) does a redstone torch changing make
#1040 [12:01] <|Kiikun|> first beign is it just your computer lagging, or the actual server
#1041 [12:01] <Mro> http://www.curse.com/server-mods/minecraft/bukkitguiclient > server sided?
#1042 [12:01] <knod> hmmm, I guess I'm trying to figure out both
#1043 [12:01] <|Kiikun|> knod: none more than it takes to have it loaded.
#1044 [12:01] <|Kiikun|> atleast i think
#1045 [12:01] <Necrodoom> Mro: says not found
#1046 [12:01] <knod> will that site tell me about memory numbers?
#1047 [12:01] <Mro> my bad
#1048 [12:01] <Mro> http://www.curse.com/server-mods/minecraft/bukkitgui
#1049 [12:01] <knod> How much does it take ot have it loaded
#1050 [12:02] <Necrodoom> knod: depends on many things
#1051 [12:02] <|Kiikun|> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunk_format#MobSpawner
#1052 [12:02] <|Kiikun|> do the math :D
#1053 [12:02] <Necrodoom> Mro: its a GUI, it doesnt reduces lag
#1054 [12:02] <Mro> does on mine :p
#1055 [12:02] <knod> what math? I don't know the numbers to do math with
#1056 [12:02] <Mro> compared to the DOS window
#1057 [12:02] <|Kiikun|> since the game has to keep map loaded into memory.. then has to process mobs and items...
#1058 [12:03] <|Kiikun|> then has to transmit them to players
#1059 [12:03] <|Kiikun|> more players on = LOTS more loaded chunks
#1060 [12:03] <knod> yeah, I'm asking how much memory it takes to process "x"
#1061 [12:03] <Necrodoom> Mro: i dont really see how its going to improve performance
#1062 [12:03] <Mro> have you tried it?
#1063 [12:03] <knod> for instance, on a temp server someone made an insane clock that lagged people and crashed the server
#1064 [12:03] <Necrodoom> running it right now
#1065 [12:04] <beetle110> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04, amd_64, and installed openjdk-7-jre and tried opening minecraft. I get a black screen after I log in. message says java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so. Something about wrong ELF class.
#1066 [12:04] <|Kiikun|> knod: then to find that oput you'd have to be some sort of java expert and then dive into the jumble that is minecraft's code
#1067 [12:04] <Necrodoom> knod: you mean a repulser circuit?
#1068 [12:04] <Vortex_spear> can someone check if my server works?
#1069 [12:04] <Vortex_spear> 75.82.79.218
#1070 [12:04] <Necrodoom> knod: that clogs up block updates
#1071 [12:04] <|Kiikun|> !check 75.82.79.218
#1072 [12:04] <knod> Is there anyone around who knows the values?
#1073 [12:04] <|Kiikun|> Vortex_spear: it works. i told you that before
#1074 [12:04] <lutzee> Vortex_spear, second time, we can confirm it works fine
#1075 [12:04] <Vortex_spear> okay thanks
#1076 [12:04] <knod> congrats aubot
#1077 [12:04] <Necrodoom> knod: its a bor
#1078 [12:04] <Necrodoom> bot*
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#1080 [12:05] <knod> ah
#1081 [12:05] <Mro> hah session stealer nice
#1082 [12:05] <|Kiikun|> knod: noone here knows the valies.
#1083 [12:05] <Vortex_spear> whoever is mike_mro
#1084 [12:05] <Vortex_spear> did it work?
#1085 [12:05] <Vortex_spear> o_o
#1086 [12:05] <Vortex_spear> im just worried about my server
#1087 [12:05] <|Kiikun|> Mro: he really doign that?
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#1089 [12:05] <Mro> yeah :p
#1090 [12:05] <Vortex_spear> yes to me?
#1091 [12:06] <Mro> was on 16 players now up to 25
#1092 [12:06] <Necrodoom> knod: unless you know minecraft code in detail, piece by piece, you cant say anything about it
#1093 [12:06] <knod> do you know where I can look to find someone who knows the values?
#1094 [12:06] <Necrodoom> knod: thats a question so general it doesnt have an answer
#1095 [12:06] <|Kiikun|> Vortex_spear: youve been told it works. stop askign people to log in
#1096 [12:06] <knod> Or how I can learn what will crash the server or what will cause lag for certain people?
#1097 [12:07] <Necrodoom> knod: theres things that lag more, theres things that lag less
#1098 [12:07] <|Kiikun|> Vortex_spear: im warning you before i kick you... just so you know :3
#1099 [12:07] <Mro> world edit for example if used extensively will overload the server
#1100 [12:07] <Vortex_spear> kk
#1101 [12:07] <knod> How do I get more specific than how much memory does a changing redstone torch use? Not being sarcastic - really want to know
#1102 [12:07] <Mro> figure it out
#1103 [12:07] <|Kiikun|> ive crashed my comp with worldedit before :P
#1104 [12:07] <Necrodoom> knod: so tiny you cant calc it
#1105 [12:07] <Mro> 600k blocks TNT ftw
#1106 [12:08] <Mro> got bored one night ;)
#1107 [12:08] <knod> How about 50 pistons?
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#1109 [12:08] <|Kiikun|> heya Calinou
#1110 [12:08] <Calinou> hi
#1111 [12:08] <knod> What causes more lag? restone torches or repeaters?
#1112 [12:08] <Necrodoom> knod: no body knows
#1113 [12:08] <knod> That kind of stuff
#1114 [12:08] <|Kiikun|> neither. a server that lags because of redstone shouldnt be a server :P
#1115 [12:08] <Mro> why is that relevant?
#1116 [12:09] <knod> How about because of pistons or water?
#1117 [12:09] <Mro> 1 redstone torch will NOT impact the state of the servers RAM usage
#1118 [12:09] <Necrodoom> knod: theres only one thing you should watch for in redstone
#1119 [12:09] <Necrodoom> knod: which is a repulser circuit
#1120 [12:09] <knod> yeah, but they add up, don't they
#1121 [12:09] <knod> t?
#1122 [12:09] <Trickster> knod, it's more about how you use it than any particular block.
#1123 [12:09] <Necrodoom> knod: youd need a huge number of these
#1124 [12:09] <lutzee> knod it's not what causes the lag, it's how many of said item, or how many updates there is per tick
#1125 [12:09] <Mro> 5,000,000 redstone torches will make the server lag like mad!
#1126 [12:09] <Necrodoom> knod: it cant be calculated
#1127 [12:09] <Mro> but lets be honest here
#1128 [12:09] <Mro> whos gunna put 5,000,000 redstone torches in ther server?
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#1130 [12:09] <Necrodoom> knod: if you are talking about standard game
#1131 [12:10] <Vortex_spear> Wait, Mro, when it said you joined, it said end of stream, could you join my server?
#1132 [12:10] <Necrodoom> knod: the only thing you need to watch for in redstone
#1133 [12:10] <lutzee> 5,000,000 redstone torches would be fine, untill you start turning them on and off
#1134 [12:10] <Mro> you didnt read my previous comment
#1135 [12:10] <Necrodoom> knod: is a repulser
#1136 [12:10] <Mro> "session stealer"
#1137 [12:10] <Vortex_spear> whats that?
#1138 [12:10] <Mro> :/
#1139 [12:10] <knod> ok, I'll keep repulsers in mind. How many is too many? Depends on server memory, right?
#1140 [12:10] <Mro> ^
#1141 [12:10] <Trickster> Typically.
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#1143 [12:11] <Necrodoom> knod: repulsers can get very heavy, quick
#1144 [12:11] <Vortex_spear> hmmm
#1145 [12:11] <Mro> how to build a repluser?
#1146 [12:11] <Mro> repulser*
#1147 [12:11] <knod> sorry, don't mean to steal the session, I can go if it's a problem
#1148 [12:11] <Necrodoom> knod: wat
#1149 [12:11] <Necrodoom> knod: he isnt talking to you
#1150 [12:11] <Mro> knod i wasnt talkin 2 u lol
#1151 [12:11] <knod> ah, ok
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#1153 [12:12] <knod> how about how many pistons releasing water?
#1154 [12:12] <Necrodoom> knod: made a few rain generators
#1155 [12:12] <Necrodoom> knod: not much impact
#1156 [12:12] <Jacubwasik> Can you please help me someone hacked me
#1157 [12:12] <|Kiikun|> knod: pistons cause block updates.. then the water flows causing MORE block updated with eatch bit it flows
#1158 [12:12] <Mro> i dont get this automatic redstone daylight sensor
#1159 [12:13] <Necrodoom> knod: you will need a few hundred block updates to start having an effect
#1160 [12:13] <Mro> its confusing to hell
#1161 [12:13] <|Kiikun|> Jacubwasik: what makes you rthink you were 'hacked'?
#1162 [12:13] <knod> I'm being a dolt and building a huge grinder that (these days) needs flushing
#1163 [12:13] <Jacubwasik> Because i cant login
#1164 [12:13] <knod> I'm not sure how many pistons releasing water I'm going to need
#1165 [12:13] <Mro> then you changed your password
#1166 [12:13] <|Kiikun|> Jacubwasik: whats your username?
#1167 [12:14] <Jacubwasik> And i didnt change it
#1168 [12:14] <Jacubwasik> Jacubwasik
#1169 [12:14] <|Kiikun|> !paid Jacubwasik
#1170 [12:14] <knod> and I'm not sure I want to find out by actually crashing the server
#1171 [12:14] <Mro> whoooah
#1172 [12:14] <Mro> can any of us do that script?
#1173 [12:14] <|Kiikun|> Jacubwasik: did you migrate your account?
#1174 [12:14] <Necrodoom> Mro: on the minecraft wiki you can find the blinker circuit, which is just a 4-repulser
#1175 [12:14] <knod> I also don't want to cause lag for other players
#1176 [12:14] <|Kiikun|> Mro: yes. aubot's check stuff is public :P
#1177 [12:14] <Necrodoom> knod: short answer: wont happen
#1178 [12:14] <Mro> ahh dam
#1179 [12:14] <Jacubwasik> No
#1180 [12:15] <Mro> ooo so repulser circuit = redstone timer?
#1181 [12:15] <knod> just making sure - why did that clock crash the server?
#1182 [12:15] <Mro> !paid mike_mro
#1183 [12:15] <knod> maybe it had repulser circuits?
#1184 [12:15] <Necrodoom> Mro: no..?
#1185 [12:15] <Mro> aww dam
#1186 [12:15] <Jacubwasik> I Never changed my minecraft password
#1187 [12:15] <|Kiikun|> :resetpass > Jacubwasik
#1188 [12:15] <WugBot> Jacubwasik: (resetpass) You can reset the password for your minecraft account using the following page: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1189 [12:15] <Jacubwasik> Ok il try
#1190 [12:15] <Necrodoom> knod: you are confusing the thing
#1191 [12:15] <knod> probably true - I am confused
#1192 [12:16] <|Kiikun|> knod: i built a SAND GENERATOR and it doesnt cause server lag.
#1193 [12:16] <|Kiikun|> its got a stack and a half of pistons
#1194 [12:16] <|Kiikun|> and redstone up the wazoo :P
#1195 [12:16] <Jacubwasik> It said E-mail couldn't be sent. Perhaps you just requested one, try again in about 20 minutes.
#1196 [12:16] <Mro> ;)
#1197 [12:16] <knod> This thing would have hundreds of pistons
#1198 [12:16] <Jacubwasik> What shall do now?
#1199 [12:17] <|Kiikun|> Jacubwasik: check your email... or try again in 20 minutes.
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#1201 [12:17] <Mro> knod what was your original question? lol
#1202 [12:17] <|Kiikun|> mro: he was askign about lag with craftbook
#1203 [12:17] <|Kiikun|> i think
#1204 [12:17] <Mro> ah
#1205 [12:17] <Necrodoom> craftbook not gonna lag unless you do something stupid
#1206 [12:17] <Jacubwasik> Im waiting 60 min for the email to come
#1207 [12:18] <knod> I want to make a huge grinder, just because, but I don't want to either crash the server or cause lag for other players. One time a huge clock crashed the server, another time a bunch of xp orbs either
#1208 [12:18] <knod> crashed the server or made that area unplayable, don't recall which.
#1209 [12:18] <knod> no, just regular lag, not craftbook lag
#1210 [12:18] <Jacubwasik> What do i do now? :(
#1211 [12:18] <Necrodoom> knod: you probably mistaken a clock for a repulser
#1212 [12:19] <Mro> dammit repulser use clock :D
#1213 [12:19] <Mro> its easier to say lol
#1214 [12:19] <knod> I don't know what it had in it, but it told the time of day by minute
#1215 [12:19] <knod> that's what I mean by huge clock
#1216 [12:19] <knod> with numbers made by sticky pistons, I think
#1217 [12:19] <Necrodoom> oh, an ACTUAL clock
#1218 [12:19] <knod> yes, an ACTUAL clock
#1219 [12:19] <Mro> my friend made onwe of them once
#1220 [12:19] <knod> sorry
#1221 [12:19] <Mro> toiok him about 2 months :S
#1222 [12:20] <Jacubwasik> Kikkun?
#1223 [12:20] <Necrodoom> thats one huge redstone circuit you gonna need for this thing
#1224 [12:20] <knod> no, *I'm* not making a huge clock
#1225 [12:20] <knod> a huge clock crashed the server once and I want to know how to avoid doing that with my project
#1226 [12:20] <Mro> increase ram
#1227 [12:20] <|Kiikun|> Jacubwasik: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1228 [12:21] <Necrodoom> knod: your grinder not gonna be near as big as a redstone actual clock
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#1230 [12:21] <knod> I'm not the server admin
#1231 [12:21] <Mro> then tell him to upgrade RAM before he starts to make anything big
#1232 [12:21] <knod> 54x4 pistons with water each level
#1233 [12:21] <|Kiikun|> knod: then run bits of it at a time. if somethign seems to lag.. stop
#1234 [12:21] <Necrodoom> knod: stop worrying and play
#1235 [12:21] <knod> 24 levels
#1236 [12:21] <knod> he's not making it
#1237 [12:21] <Mro> true dat necro
#1238 [12:21] <knod> I'm making it
#1239 [12:22] <Necrodoom> knod: max the result youd get that it lags, you still can boast with it
#1240 [12:22] <knod> he's going to get po'ed if I crash it
#1241 [12:22] <knod> lol, necro
#1242 [12:22] <Necrodoom> knod: you can always stop it before it crashes
#1243 [12:22] <knod> I want it to *work*
#1244 [12:23] <Mro> build it properly then
#1245 [12:23] <knod> Ok, it'd just be more fun to plan one that works and not build a bunch of stuff that ends up being useless
#1246 [12:23] <knod> that's what I'm trying to find out, mro!
#1247 [12:23] <|Kiikun|> knod. just run it one level at a time.
#1248 [12:23] <Necrodoom> redstone is all about trail and error
#1249 [12:24] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/oghXI.png
#1250 [12:24] <|Kiikun|> Necrodoom: or just knowing redstone :P
#1251 [12:24] <|Kiikun|> Grim_Reaper: whut? o_o
#1252 [12:24] <Necrodoom> you cant know redstone without trail and error, point still stands
#1253 [12:24] <knod> is there anyone who knows redstone here? The redstone should be pretty simple, I'm more worried about the pistons and water
#1254 [12:25] <Necrodoom> knod: i have some experience with redstone
#1255 [12:25] * |Kiikun| is fairly good with it. roughtly etho-level atleast
#1255 [12:25] <knod> has anyone here crashed a server with redstone or pistons? or knows someone that did?
#1256 [12:25] <|Kiikun|> nope.
#1257 [12:26] <knod> or caused huge lag with it?
#1258 [12:26] <|Kiikun|> and the server i play on is run off a laptop thats likw 5+ years old :P
#1259 [12:26] <Necrodoom> other than repulsers, nope
#1260 [12:26] <knod> hehe
#1261 [12:26] <knod> I'll look up repulers and make sure not to use them
#1262 [12:26] <knod> how about with pistons?
#1263 [12:27] <Necrodoom> you can easily notice repulsers in your circuit
#1264 [12:27] <|Kiikun|> Necrodoom: repulsers? you mean the torch turnign itself off?
#1265 [12:27] <Necrodoom> if the redstone flicks really quick
#1266 [12:27] <Necrodoom> on and off
#1267 [12:27] <Necrodoom> and other stuff have problems keeping up with it
#1268 [12:27] <knod> ah, ok, got none of those, so I won't worry about the redstone
#1269 [12:27] <|Kiikun|> ah. the burnout clock :3
#1270 [12:27] <Necrodoom> its a repulser
#1271 [12:27] <Necrodoom> |Kiikun|: burnout clock?
#1272 [12:28] <Necrodoom> |Kiikun|: if the repulser is under 5, it will burn out
#1273 [12:28] <Mro> kiikun do you like own minecraft? lol
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#1275 [12:29] <lodemann> hey i have got a question is a admin here?
#1276 [12:29] <|Kiikun|> !paid Sennyotai
#1277 [12:29] <|Kiikun|> !paid NutBunny
#1278 [12:29] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1279 [12:29] <beetle110> does minecraft not like openjdk-7-jre on ubuntu 12.04?
#1280 [12:29] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#1281 [12:29] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1282 [12:29] <lodemann> ADMIN HERE?
#1283 [12:29] <Mro> why? lol
#1284 [12:29] <Necrodoom> lodemann: just ask
#1285 [12:29] <|Kiikun|> beetle110: its possible. try using sun java 6?
#1286 [12:29] <Necrodoom> lodemann: If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or if people are awake. Just ask the question to the channel straight out.
#1287 [12:30] <Necrodoom> copied off a bot
#1288 [12:30] <Mro> ^
#1289 [12:30] <langkid1> .-.
#1290 [12:30] <|Kiikun|> ?? ask
#1291 [12:30] <|Kiikun|> :P
#1292 [12:30] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1293 [12:30] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1294 [12:30] <beetle110> removed openjdk-7-jre which put openjdk-6-jre back on, and now minecraft is working
#1295 [12:30] * langkid1 throws soft drink caps at |Kiikun|
#1295 [12:31] <Mro> ubuntu might not be compatable with Jre7?
#1296 [12:31] <lodemann> i lost my password ...i change it...i want to login and than comes this problem...user or password wrong..
#1297 [12:31] <|Kiikun|> i dont recomend openjdk at all. but if you get it workign ok with ojdk6 then good for you :3
#1298 [12:31] <langkid1> |Kiikun|, what is there other than openjdk?
#1299 [12:32] <beetle110> sun java is soooo messy on my ubuntu system.
#1300 [12:32] <langkid1> I use that on all my linux java installations, mostly because it's the first thing I found in APT
#1301 [12:32] <|Kiikun|> langkid1: sun java you derp :P
#1302 [12:32] <beetle110> I haven't found a clean way to install it.
#1303 [12:32] <langkid1> !check home.langkid1.me
#1304 [12:32] <Boreeas> sun java worked fine for me
#1305 [12:32] <lodemann> i change my password 5 times and just ever the save error
#1306 [12:32] <langkid1> ...
#1307 [12:32] <Boreeas> There is also icedtea (don't use it)
#1308 [12:32] <langkid1> got to be ffing kidding me >_><
#1309 [12:33] <|Kiikun|> lodemann: you SURE your typing both the uername and password right into the client? also whats the exact errror the launcher gives you?
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#1311 [12:33] <TheChosenOne> I Got SSL Handshake Error , How To Fix IT ?
#1312 [12:33] <langkid1> !check home.langkid1.me
#1313 [12:33] <langkid1> Yes!
#1314 [12:33] <lodemann> yes because i send my nickname to my e-mail addy
#1315 [12:33] <|Kiikun|> TheChosenOne: o.o; webpage?
#1316 [12:34] <TheChosenOne> No minecraft launcher
#1317 [12:34] <langkid1> Linux?
#1318 [12:34] <TheChosenOne> windows 7
#1319 [12:34] <langkid1> Can you post the exact error?
#1320 [12:34] <knod> When you have a sec, I'd still like to ask about the pistons and water
#1321 [12:34] <langkid1> on http://pastebin.com
#1322 [12:34] <|Kiikun|> TheChosenOne: havent heard thast one yet. is it just the news.. or actually IN minecraft?
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#1324 [12:35] <lodemann> login failed
#1325 [12:35] <TheChosenOne> When i try to login into my acc (launcher) it says can't connect to minecraft .
#1326 [12:35] <TheChosenOne> i'm getting ssl handshake error
#1327 [12:36] <Grim_Reaper> [18:35] <TheChosenOne> i'm getting ssl handshake error
#1328 [12:36] <Grim_Reaper> Clearly he was the chosen one
#1329 [12:36] <|Kiikun|> lol
#1330 [12:36] <Grim_Reaper> He was chosen for that error!
#1331 [12:36] <|Kiikun|> langkid1: thank you for continuing my curse.
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#1333 [12:39] <knod> any clues on pistons?
#1334 [12:39] <Necrodoom> knod: i said it 5 times
#1335 [12:39] <Necrodoom> knod: and i say it again
#1336 [12:39] <knod> trial and error
#1337 [12:39] <knod> and I will, if no one has suggestions
#1338 [12:40] <knod> it would just be great to have some input if I can get it
#1339 [12:40] <Necrodoom> knod: that and unless its covering a few chunks its not gonna do much
#1340 [12:40] <knod> how many is a few?
#1341 [12:43] <knod> I also know from experience that too many mobs in one place also cause lag
#1342 [12:43] <Necrodoom> mobs keep much more daya
#1343 [12:43] <Necrodoom> data*
#1344 [12:44] <Necrodoom> and i think by few is around 5-6 chunks
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#1347 [12:45] <knod> How many mobs are too many? I know for some people it's more, for some less
#1348 [12:45] <knod> if you know it, could you give me a lower number?
#1349 [12:45] <knod> or estimate?
#1350 [12:45] <Necrodoom> no idea.
#1351 [12:46] <Necrodoom> try a few dozens
#1352 [12:46] <knod> ok
#1353 [12:46] <|Kiikun|> it takes a few dozen to start laggy...
#1354 [12:46] <Wenax> Hello, I have big problem everytime when I try to connect some "Warez" server... but I have original account, it write: "You have exceeded the max number of registrations for your account" Can you help me , I need to Don't have this problem too long.
#1355 [12:46] <|Kiikun|> i couldnt move when we had out track-duper runnign too long
#1356 [12:47] <|Kiikun|> but.. thats was liek HUNDREDS of track-items
#1357 [12:47] <knod> track-duper?
#1358 [12:47] <Necrodoom> a merge booster?
#1359 [12:47] <knod> don't know what that is either
#1360 [12:48] <|Kiikun|> Necrodoom: it duplicated powered rails via use of sticky piston
#1361 [12:48] <Necrodoom> |Kiikun|: ah
#1362 [12:48] <Necrodoom> |Kiikun|: merge booster is when you put 2 carts on a circle made from tracks
#1363 [12:48] <knod> oh, ok
#1364 [12:48] <Necrodoom> knod: then push them around
#1365 [12:48] <|Kiikun|> Wenax: thats somethign on the server end.. they probably want you to pay them for access to their server :/
#1366 [12:49] <Necrodoom> knod: till they collide into each other, so they go to the same spot
#1367 [12:49] <knod> ah, ok
#1368 [12:49] <|Kiikun|> since its a warez server (read, pirates) i wouldnt even try
#1369 [12:49] <Necrodoom> its funny how some pirate servers want you to pay for premium
#1370 [12:49] <|Kiikun|> langkid1:
#1371 [12:50] <knod> ok, I think that's about what I can find out. Thanks for the help with all the stuff.
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#1373 [12:52] <knod> and I'll tell my admin about the channel
#1374 [12:53] <knod> Is there anything I can do to help you guys out?
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#1376 [12:53] <knod> later then
#1377 [12:54] <Guest6837> hello are you english oder seid ihr deutsch
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#1379 [12:54] <Grim_Reaper> Oh look it's Marc_IRL
#1380 [12:54] <lutzee> oh hey marc :)
#1381 [12:54] <Marc_IRL> So it has come to this
#1382 [12:55] <Grim_Reaper> Run!
#1383 [12:55] <ShaRose> hey guys, I'm doing up a list of stuff I want to ask for the dev meeting saturday if I get picked, what do you think from a support perspective? http://pastebin.com/3BQU73Jw
#1384 [12:56] <Guest6837> kann mir jemand helfen wenn ich minecraft installiere und online spielen will steht da not conect to minecraft.net und bei singelplayer nicht gedoawnloadet
#1385 [12:56] <ShaRose> Guest6837 english please
#1386 [12:57] <Guest6837> can someone help me when I install mine craft and wants to play online is there not to minecraft.net and singelplayer not conect gedoawnloadet
#1387 [12:58] <Marc_IRL> Yay Google translate :P
#1388 [12:58] <Marc_IRL> I still have no idea what a gedoawnloadet is though
#1389 [12:58] <Necrodoom> doesnt look like google translate
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#1391 [12:58] <Guest6837> install
#1392 [12:58] <Necrodoom> "singelplayer"
#1393 [12:58] <Guest6837> ok
#1394 [12:58] <ShaRose> Necrodoom that was misspelled in german too
#1395 [12:59] <Karwin> is there a way to protect your repeaters with world gard?
#1396 [13:00] <ShaRose> Guest6837 So, to verify: When you attempt to install Minecraft, the launcher says it cannot connect to Minecraft.net, and you can't play singleplayer?
#1397 [13:00] <Guest6837> when i doawnlod minecraft and want to play online there stays is it not conect to minecraft.net and then when i will play allone there stays i havent doawnload minecraft
#1398 [13:00] <Guest6837> yes
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#1400 [13:01] <Karwin> seems that the .minecraft folder is not there, so he is unable to play single player. it has not downloaded the setup files yet.
#1401 [13:01] <Guest6837> ok can you give me the site
#1402 [13:02] <Guest6837> webside
#1403 [13:02] <lutzee> Guest6837, it downloads after you log in
#1404 [13:02] <Guest6837> yes
#1405 [13:02] <Karwin> its done when you login the minecraft client.
#1406 [13:02] <lutzee> as you are having trouble logging in it wont download them
#1407 [13:02] <ShaRose> mc.net is up
#1408 [13:02] <Mro> why was it down? O_o
#1409 [13:02] <lutzee> Guest6837, can you tell me is you see anything odd in the top of the launcher
#1410 [13:03] <lutzee> Mro, it never was down
#1411 [13:03] <Guest6837> ok wait
#1412 [13:03] <Mro> O_o
#1413 [13:03] <lutzee> like it's all grey with a bit of text at the top
#1414 [13:03] <Mro> o ryte
#1415 [13:03] <Karwin> is there a way to protect your repeaters with world gard?
#1416 [13:04] <lutzee> Karwin, ask in #bukkit
#1417 [13:04] <Karwin> kk thanks
#1418 [13:05] <Guest6837> no i play the premium and its doesnt go
#1419 [13:06] <Karwin> guest6837, do you have a account?
#1420 [13:06] <Guest6837> yes i have
#1421 [13:06] <Karwin> are you on windows?
#1422 [13:07] <Mro> omg
#1423 [13:07] <Mro> why do noobz use worldguard
#1424 [13:07] <Guest6837> yes winows 7
#1425 [13:07] <Mro> izone ftw!
#1426 [13:08] <|Kiikun|> wg is better known
#1427 [13:08] <Mro> ive had 8 bad bad experiences with world guard
#1428 [13:08] <Mro> all of which destroyed a critical part of my world
#1429 [13:08] <Mro> i.e spawn
#1430 [13:09] <lutzee> ??> Guest6837 java/version
#1431 [13:09] <VoxelHead> Guest6837: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1432 [13:09] <VoxelHead> Guest6837: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1433 [13:09] <Karwin> guest6837, hold down the windows key(should be in between crtl and alt then press the letter R
#1434 [13:09] <Guest6837> ok 4
#1435 [13:09] <|Kiikun|> o.o;
#1436 [13:09] <Mro> wat does that do#?
#1437 [13:09] * |Kiikun| missed marc beign in here
#1437 [13:09] <|Kiikun|> win+r = run dialog
#1438 [13:09] <Mro> o right
#1439 [13:09] <|Kiikun|> win+pause = sys info
#1440 [13:09] <Karwin> a box should show up, type in %appdata%
#1441 [13:10] <Mro> or press start then type it in ;)
#1442 [13:10] <|Kiikun|> or win+e :P
#1443 [13:10] <Mro> ctrl + W owns all
#1444 [13:10] <Karwin> is there a folder called .minecraft? should be on the top
#1445 [13:10] <Mro> win+L's a good one as well :D
#1446 [13:10] <|Kiikun|> mro: no trollin
#1447 [13:10] <Mro> ;)
#1448 [13:11] <Karwin> the good ol' days on diablo 2 with the alt+f4 dupe.
#1449 [13:12] <lutzee> Karwin, we have already confirmed he hasn't ot a .minecraft...
#1450 [13:12] <Mro> hah i remember that scam on runescape
#1451 [13:12] <Mro> drop your rune armour and press alt+F4 it trims it
#1452 [13:12] <Karwin> yeah, was thinking it might just be a bugged install.
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#1454 [13:12] <|Kiikun|> derps are derpy
#1455 [13:13] * |Kiikun| heads to work
#1455 [13:13] <lutzee> Karwin, nope its the fact that something is blocking him form downloading
#1456 [13:13] <lutzee> either he has java7 or his antivirus
#1457 [13:14] <Mro> java7??
#1458 [13:14] <Mro> why would that be a problem?
#1459 [13:15] <lutzee> it defaults to using IPv6
#1460 [13:15] <lutzee> which isn't supported at mojang
#1461 [13:15] <Mro> java7?
#1462 [13:15] <Mro> O_o
#1463 [13:16] <lutzee> yes,... we've dealt with this a lot, we know what we are talking about.
#1464 [13:16] <Mro> im not debating that just thought mojang would have sorted it out :p
#1465 [13:17] <Mro> new bit of news
#1466 [13:18] <lutzee> They are looking into it, it only became a major problem the past few weeks since the 7u5 update and java 7 becoming default java installation
#1467 [13:18] <Karwin> i have java7...
#1468 [13:20] <lutzee> what update though? i have java7u3 and i'm fine, seems to be specifically 7u5
#1469 [13:21] <Karwin> 7u4
#1470 [13:21] <Mro> how do we fiund out java version?
#1471 [13:21] <Karwin> control panle > jave > about
#1472 [13:21] <Mro> O_-o
#1473 [13:21] <Mro> you guys have problems?
#1474 [13:23] <Karwin> ...???
#1475 [13:26] <Trickster> It's entirely possible if you updated to Java 7 from when IPv4 is default, you still use IPv4.
#1476 [13:27] <Trickster> But if it's a fresh install of Java, it goes with IPv6.
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#1478 [13:29] <Mro> O_o
#1479 [13:36] <langkid1> Aww someone griefed my server when I posted the ip
#1480 [13:36] * langkid1 is dissappointed in the community
#1480 [13:37] <langkid1> now let's see here
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#1482 [13:38] <langkid1> King_jolt, iscool12, and seriousblack123 are suspects
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#1485 [14:01] <PMental> langkid1: That's sad...
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#1491 [14:31] <Marc_IRL> Any particularly wacky issues today?
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#1494 [14:48] <Karwin> well marc having a wacky issue but our server is down at the moment and there was a ticket put in to servercraft.co
#1495 [14:48] <Karwin> lawl, late on that posting.
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#1498 [15:02] <Shiv> Hello guys
#1499 [15:02] <Shiv> My friend have some problems to connect to minecraft, or even play it offline
#1500 [15:03] <Shiv> His minecraft is going black after the green load bar, and he cant connect to minecraft.net :s any1 can help us solve the problem?
#1501 [15:03] <Shiv> Brb
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#1504 [15:08] <Shiv> Any1?
#1505 [15:09] <lutzee> shiv, what version of java do you have?
#1506 [15:09] <Shiv> My friend has the newest.. : /
#1507 [15:09] <Shiv> Atleast the browser say sos
#1508 [15:09] <Shiv> so*
#1509 [15:10] <lutzee> okay thats bad :P, uninstall it and install java6
#1510 [15:10] <Shiv> Hmm i will say that :)
#1511 [15:10] <Shiv> How to uninstall it
#1512 [15:11] <Shiv> Under "remove programs"?
#1513 [15:11] <clarjon1> But what -version- do you have.
#1514 [15:11] <clarjon1> there's Java6 and Java7
#1515 [15:11] <Shiv> The newest :P 7 with update 5?
#1516 [15:11] <lutzee> yes thats the problem version
#1517 [15:11] <clarjon1> yea
#1518 [15:11] <lutzee> you can get java 6u33 here http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#1519 [15:12] <Shiv> But how to remove the java 7 ? delete the folder?
#1520 [15:12] <lutzee> no
#1521 [15:12] <lutzee> add/remove programs
#1522 [15:15] <Shiv> Just a sec^^ friend doign it :)
#1523 [15:16] <Shiv> Now it is installed
#1524 [15:17] <Shiv> But he still get black screen :S
#1525 [15:17] <lutzee> Force update
#1526 [15:18] <Shiv> Still wont work : /
#1527 [15:18] <Shiv> Does a computer restart required to work ?
#1528 [15:19] <Shiv> lutzee :s?
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#1530 [15:22] <Shiv> He have downloaded the Java 6 64bit for windows at http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html and did remove the java 7 from add/remove programs, but it didt help
#1531 [15:25] <lutzee> Shiv, what antivirus?
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#1533 [15:25] <Shiv> avg
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#1535 [15:26] <lutzee> ah, okay disable the linkscanner module in AVG
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#1537 [15:26] <Shiv> It is disabled : /
#1538 [15:27] <Conikins> II am having a problem with a grey screen on Minecraft. I've already tried uninstalling Java and reinstalling multiple times. I've reset my computer a few times too. I've deleting the .minecraft folder too. Could I get some help?
#1539 [15:27] <dragonmoolar> Anyone else have the 'Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out' problem? I've checked everywhere and can't seem to find a solution.
#1540 [15:27] <Jopo> Hi, i keep getting an error when i join a particular server, it loads, but freezes when it says Downloading Terrain...Can you help?
#1541 [15:30] <Jopo> Hi, i keep getting an error when i join a particular server, it loads, but freezes when it says Downloading Terrain for about 1 minute, then i get a connection error...Can you help?
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#1543 [15:30] <dragonmoolar> Anyone?
#1544 [15:31] <Jopo> I don't think any helpers are online :(
#1545 [15:31] <dragonmoolar> Yeah, seems so.
#1546 [15:31] <Conikins> :(
#1547 [15:31] <Conikins> I really want to fix this grey screen.
#1548 [15:31] <dragonmoolar> Damnit, this has been bugging me for months, have no idea! ):
#1549 [15:31] <clarjon1> Jopo: It sounds like that server is having issues
#1550 [15:32] <clarjon1> Jopo: you need to contact the admin that runs that server.
#1551 [15:32] <Jopo> I have contacted him multiple times, but he just says its my connection, but it seems to be happening to my friend aswell, but others can get on easily?
#1552 [15:33] <Conikins> Maybe its possibly the distance you are from the server admin?
#1553 [15:33] <clarjon1> Jopo: If you can get onto other servers, then it's not your computer.
#1554 [15:33] <Jopo> But this has only been happening recently...Before yesterday, everything was perfectly fine
#1555 [15:34] <clarjon1> Jopo: Can you attempt to connect to the following server: dreamcraft.org
#1556 [15:35] <clarjon1> I'm an admin there, i can check the server log if there are issues.
#1557 [15:35] <Jopo> Okay, thanks
#1558 [15:36] <clarjon1> i see you logged in
#1559 [15:36] <clarjon1> It looks fine, from here.
#1560 [15:36] <clarjon1> Jopo: It could be that your player data is corrupt on the other server.
#1561 [15:36] <Shiv> My friend still has problem to connect to minecraft.net : / and when he try click play offline, he get black screen. He have Java 6, AVG anti virus with linkscanner off : /
#1562 [15:37] <clarjon1> Jopo: The admin needs to look at his logs when you attempt to log in to confirm this, so he can reset your player data file.
#1563 [15:37] <Jopo> Hmm...Ill ask the owner to delete my .dat file, then we will see from there.
#1564 [15:37] <Jopo> I have donated to the server, will it reset my donation?
#1565 [15:37] <clarjon1> no
#1566 [15:37] <clarjon1> donations are done outside of minecraft
#1567 [15:38] <clarjon1> the server owner is responsible for managing permission levels.
#1568 [15:38] <Jopo> Okay, thanks!
#1569 [15:38] <clarjon1> Best of luck :)
#1570 [15:39] <Shiv> clarjon1, could you help me with my friends problem xD?
#1571 [15:39] <Shiv> Think lutzee is kinda afk?
#1572 [15:39] <clarjon1> Shiv: Sorry, I don't know enough about those connection issues
#1573 [15:39] <Shiv> Okay : /
#1574 [15:39] <clarjon1> Shiv: and, did he try to install any mods?
#1575 [15:40] <Shiv> There was some mod on a crack he tried xd
#1576 [15:40] <clarjon1> ah
#1577 [15:40] <Shiv> But else he havent installed any mobs since he bought it nearly a week ago :p
#1578 [15:40] <clarjon1> that's probably it
#1579 [15:41] <Shiv> How to fix it :3 if it will fix it xD
#1580 [15:41] <clarjon1> on the launcher, click the "Options" button, then click "Force Update"
#1581 [15:41] <clarjon1> then log in.
#1582 [15:41] <Shiv> He have tried that also xD
#1583 [15:41] <Shiv> Can ask him to try again just to be sure :)
#1584 [15:42] <Shiv> Still say not connect
#1585 [15:42] <Shiv> And again black screen when he hit "play offline"
#1586 [15:42] <clarjon1> is his computer even connected to the net?
#1587 [15:42] <Shiv> yes xD
#1588 [15:43] <clarjon1> lol
#1589 [15:43] <Shiv> He watching movie and talking with me on skype
#1590 [15:43] <clarjon1> ok
#1591 [15:43] <Shiv> So hope so xD
#1592 [15:43] <clarjon1> well, he should be in here :P
#1593 [15:43] <Shiv> ^^
#1594 [15:43] <clarjon1> makes it easier if the person with the problem is in here to get helped lol
#1595 [15:43] <Shiv> Yeah ;p proberly, but xD just trying to help him, and since he just do what i say (you write) he do, xD
#1596 [15:46] <Shiv> Just dunno how much difference there is, when we doing what you say :p
#1597 [15:46] <Shiv> Just think im abit better to explain the problems :P!
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#1599 [15:48] <clarjon1> ...
#1600 [15:48] <Shiv> Should a restart help clarjon1? Since he just reinstalled Java some time ago?
#1601 [15:48] <clarjon1> it might
#1602 [15:48] <clarjon1> and he should completely disable AVG
#1603 [15:48] <clarjon1> ( i recommend Avast! for an antivirus, personally )
#1604 [15:48] <Marc_IRL> Anyone ever seen this? http://imgur.com/0BmMK
#1605 [15:49] <Shiv> Dont think AVG should be the big problem, since i had it on my laptop, and i could connect minecraft.net with that : /
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#1607 [15:49] <lutzee> no i haven't marc thats quite odd to be fair
#1608 [15:50] <lutzee> looks like its receiving some odd data from tumblr, that or someone has messed with the launcher
#1609 [15:50] <Shiv> lutzee, you dont know any other things to do with the "blackscreen" thing ;P? If a restart isnt working?
#1610 [15:50] <clarjon1> Shiv: it needs to connect to minecraft.net to download the game.
#1611 [15:51] <Shiv> I have sent him a rar / zip folder with the .minecraft files : /
#1612 [15:51] <clarjon1> .......
#1613 [15:51] <clarjon1> no
#1614 [15:51] <Shiv> xD?
#1615 [15:51] <lutzee> Does forceupdating work? wor does it stop half way though?
#1616 [15:51] <clarjon1> lutzee: doesn't even get that far, apparently.
#1617 [15:52] <Shiv> It just say "Cannot connect to minecraft.net" after pressing "play online"
#1618 [15:52] <clarjon1> AVG's firewall is probably blocking it
#1619 [15:52] <clarjon1> Shiv: at one point when he was pirating, he probably set up a rule to try and prevent the game from connecting to the minecraft auth servers
#1620 [15:53] <lutzee> ?? win/hosts
#1621 [15:53] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1622 [15:53] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1623 [15:53] <Shiv> Hmm i has done the pirating too xD but it didt deny me to log on :3 but i will try to see if it is
#1624 [15:53] <clarjon1> Shiv: It would help VERY MUCH if your friend was in here
#1625 [15:53] <Shiv> He just came back form restart^^
#1626 [15:53] <clarjon1> especially if we are going to be debugging.
#1627 [15:54] <dragonmoolar> Anyone else have the 'Internal exception: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out' problem? I've checked everywhere and can't seem to find a solution.
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#1629 [15:55] <lutzee> dragonmoolar, does this show on a grey background in the launcher?
#1630 [15:55] <Shiv> Here he is :P!
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#1632 [15:55] <dragonmoolar> It shows after it disconnects me from a server
#1633 [15:56] <lutzee> well yes you lost your connection to a server
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#1635 [15:56] <lutzee> it happens say if your internet cuts out
#1636 [15:56] <dragonmoolar> Well, yeah, but why does it do that?
#1637 [15:56] <dragonmoolar> We've tested the connection, it's not that.
#1638 [15:56] <lutzee> are you able to connect to the server at all
#1639 [15:56] <lutzee> ?
#1640 [15:56] <dragonmoolar> Yes
#1641 [15:56] <uronym> Is this where I ask for help with technical difficulties?
#1642 [15:56] <sodor> hi im shivs friend you tried to help me the other day :D
#1643 [15:56] <lutzee> you can play and then it disconnects randomly?
#1644 [15:57] <dragonmoolar> But not for about 10 secs after the message, and yes.
#1645 [15:57] <clarjon1> dragonmoolar: can you connect to this server to test please: dreamcraft.org
#1646 [15:57] <dragonmoolar> Sure
#1647 [15:57] <uronym> When I try to download minecraft from the download page, nothing happens
#1648 [15:57] <clarjon1> I'm an admin there, so i'll be able to see any server-side error message
#1649 [15:57] <lutzee> ??> sodor win/hosts
#1650 [15:57] <VoxelHead> sodor: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1651 [15:57] <VoxelHead> sodor: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1652 [15:57] <clarjon1> I see you connected
#1653 [15:58] <clarjon1> dragonmoolar: It looks to be stable -- perhaps it's an issue with the other server you frequent? Contact the server admin, to see if you can work out what's wrong.
#1654 [15:58] <dragonmoolar> It will cut out soon, give it a few minutes.
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#1656 [15:58] <clarjon1> ok
#1657 [15:58] <clarjon1> dragonmoolar: feel free to explore :)
#1658 [15:59] <dragonmoolar> All the players stop moving, I can't open chests or break blocks; it gets annoying! :P
#1659 [15:59] <clarjon1> hmm.
#1660 [15:59] <clarjon1> it sounds like a connection problem.
#1661 [15:59] <Shiv> VoxelHead, what is the Pastebin / how to put it there
#1662 [15:59] <lutzee> Shiv, VoxelHead is a bot and pastebin.com is a website
#1663 [15:59] <clarjon1> dragonmoolar: it sounds like your connection will "hiccup", causing the connection to be interrupted.
#1664 [16:00] <Shiv> LOL XD
#1665 [16:00] <computerdude5000> WIndows 7 firefox 22 tabs < Ubunto Firefox 50 tabs!!
#1666 [16:00] <dragonmoolar> Any suggestions?
#1667 [16:00] <uronym> I'm on
#1668 [16:01] <sodor> http://pagebin.com/posted.php?pid=i3kzU27k
#1669 [16:01] <uronym> I'm on Ubuntu Linux; when I click the download link on minecraft.net/download, nothing happens! If I click the windows or mac download link, it works fine, but do those work?
#1670 [16:03] <uronym> Is anyone here?
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#1672 [16:04] <uronym> Hello?
#1673 [16:04] <lutzee> uronym, the .jar link should be fine
#1674 [16:04] <lutzee> as in it works for me
#1675 [16:04] <uronym> When I click it, nothing happens at all; and when I try to open in a new tab, I get a blank page
#1676 [16:05] <sodor> *Poke* http://pagebin.com/posted.php?pid=i3kzU27k
#1677 [16:05] <sodor> my side :D
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#1679 [16:05] <lutzee> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar well this is said link
#1680 [16:05] <lutzee> sodor, that is fine i don't know what is preventing you connecting, try removing AVG and installing avast
#1681 [16:05] <uronym> When I try to open that link, I get a blank page
#1682 [16:05] <uronym> I'm using Chromium
#1683 [16:06] <sodor> lutzee a8int that a bit dangerous
#1684 [16:06] <uronym> "about:blank", the blank page for that
#1685 [16:07] <uronym> If I download the Mac one, will it work? Is there a jar in it?
#1686 [16:08] <lutzee> uronym, no idea, sodor, it should be fine, turn off you internet if you want to be safe,
#1687 [16:08] <Shiv> Turn off, download... xD
#1688 [16:08] <Shiv> Nha
#1689 [16:09] <Shiv> Download, turn off, uninstall then install avast ^^
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#1691 [16:09] <sodor> im not quit sure thats gonna work :D
#1692 [16:09] <Shiv> then turn internet on :P
#1693 [16:09] <sodor> ohh
#1694 [16:09] <Cannondale12> hellur
#1695 [16:10] <Cannondale12> when i run the week 26 snapshot and try to put mods on the .jar files it crashes minecraft
#1696 [16:11] <Cannondale12> does anyone know what to do
#1697 [16:12] <lutzee> Cannondale12, you cannot mod the snapshots
#1698 [16:12] <sodor> how is change my antivirus program gonna help me with that shitty black screen when i try to play offline
#1699 [16:12] <sodor> black screen im not racist
#1700 [16:12] <sodor> i just dont like it
#1701 [16:13] <lutzee> sodor, because you don't have the minecraft files you need to log in to download them
#1702 [16:13] <lutzee> you AV is preventing you from doing that
#1703 [16:13] <sodor> woudl it help to turn ym anti virus program off while i try download my files?
#1704 [16:13] <lutzee> you want to totally disable it
#1705 [16:14] <lutzee> some AV's hitting disable does actually disable it completely
#1706 [16:14] <clarjon1> sodor: many antivirus programs do not like minecraft because it downloads other files for the game to run.
#1707 [16:16] <sodor> lutzee do you mean does or does'nt
#1708 [16:16] <lutzee> doesnt
#1709 [16:18] <uronym> Okay, I think I solved the issue. I can download the Mac version, and there is a jar file in it, and you can run it, think I'm good.
#1710 [16:19] <uronym> Yes it's working well.
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#1712 [16:22] <sodor> FUCK THATS HIT
#1713 [16:22] * AuBot kicked sodor from #minecrafthelp (Reason: odor :Please keep it civil.)
#1714 [16:23] <Shiv> LOL
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#1716 [16:23] <sodor> WTF
#1717 [16:23] <Shiv> Newb
#1718 [16:23] <sodor> sorry dude aint helping me sh1t
#1719 [16:24] <sodor> afinstall my anti virus installed new one did not help _(
#1720 [16:25] <sodor> imma kill this 11k exspensive computer tommorrow just becaurse i cant play fokking minecraft :D
#1721 [16:26] <sodor> lutzee
#1722 [16:27] <sodor> spam on you lutzee
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#1724 [16:27] <sillyjilly> hello
#1725 [16:28] <sillyjilly> my minecraft is not working and everytime i use it, it justs turns white
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#1727 [16:31] <lol_> why does the client have a set priority for its main thread which is higer than the file io thread and the server doesn't have a specified thread priority?
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#1729 [16:35] <TheNytangel> ??< index
#1730 [16:36] <TheNytangel> ??< java/version
#1731 [16:36] <TheNytangel> ??>> sillyjilly java/version
#1732 [16:38] <Shiv> Can JavaFX couse the problem of black screen xD?
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#1737 [16:41] <TheNytangel> :D
#1738 [16:41] <TheNytangel> I just successfully helped someone
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#1741 [16:44] <Shiv> Haha ;p nice for you xD
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#1743 [16:45] <T-rog> I have a question about Nether Portals
#1744 [16:46] <lutzee> okay shoot
#1745 [16:48] <T-rog> I have a nether portal in the tippy-top tower of my castle. It generated a new portal in the nether the first time I went in it. For the longest time it worked perfectly. Now today, no five minutes ago, all of a sudden, the portal in the nether sends me to a newly generated portal a little ways off from my castle in the overworld. Every time I destroy it, it comes back. Why?
#1746 [16:49] <T-rog> And it has been working fine for most of today
#1747 [16:49] <lutzee> yeah that can happen, no idea why, on my server the first portal we made broke straight away
#1748 [16:49] <T-rog> 0.o
#1749 [16:50] <T-rog> but now I have to walk all the way back to my castle
#1750 [16:50] <NinjaKirby> Solution: 1) Break your original Overworld portal, and rebuild (without relighting it with Flint)2)
#1751 [16:50] <NinjaKirby> Oh come on, I thought Ctrl+Enter worked
#1752 [16:51] <T-rog> ctrl+enter?
#1753 [16:51] <NinjaKirby> Ah! Wait, I'm thinking... I hate IRC
#1754 [16:51] <NinjaKirby> That's what I'm thinking.
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#1757 [16:52] <NinjaKirby> Anyway, use the second unwanted Overworld portal to get back to the nether. Break that gate and relight it. Then hopefully upon re-entry to the Overworld it will relocate your original.
#1758 [16:52] <jagger456> when i login to minecraft game it is just a black screen. Help
#1759 [16:53] <SOFI> I'm attempting to create a mod, I've got one ore working (In this case, Coal), how would I go about adding compatibility for the other ores? (Iron,Gold,Diamond,Redstone)?
#1760 [16:53] <T-rog> we should have copper and tin so we can makebronze
#1761 [16:56] <TheNytangel> Industrialcraft
#1762 [16:56] <TheNytangel> That has copper and tin and bronze ;)
#1763 [16:57] <lutzee> SOFI ask in #risucraft about modding
#1764 [16:58] <T-rog> NinjaKirby: am I supposed to completely disassemble my original portal
#1765 [16:58] <T-rog> and then reassemble it
#1766 [16:58] <T-rog> or like break one block
#1767 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> Negative, just break one block to "damage the link", then place that obsidian block again
#1768 [16:58] <NinjaKirby> So you have an inactive portal, per say
#1769 [16:59] <NinjaKirby> Might want to backup incase it makes things worse
#1770 [16:59] <NinjaKirby> I just know I've had plenty of fun calculating in a spreadsheet the distances and fixing my gates.
#1771 [17:01] <NinjaKirby> http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8095/mcspreadsheet.png Hardcore Nethergating
#1772 [17:01] <NinjaKirby> http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8095/mcspreadsheet.png Hardcore Nethergating
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#1775 [17:02] <T-rog> why wouldn't it simply reroute back to the unwanted secondary portal?
#1776 [17:03] <NinjaKirby> To be fair, I've never actually experienced that problem. But I would hope my traditional method of fixing a link could work -_-
#1777 [17:04] <NinjaKirby> All that's key as far as I can tell, is to break both the gates you want to link together (assuming they are matching Nether-Overworld coordinates), and light both without using them as an entry point - exit point should be fine.
#1778 [17:05] <NinjaKirby> Well, that's the hope anyway.
#1779 [17:06] <T-rog> yay it took me back to the unwanted secondary
#1780 [17:06] <NinjaKirby> I'd be inclined to check the Coordinates in that case. I vaguely remember hearing they don't always necessarily match up.
#1781 [17:06] <T-rog> let's deactivate the secondary but reactivate the primary
#1782 [17:07] <T-rog> and deactivate and reactivate the nether'
#1783 [17:09] <T-rog> YAY
#1784 [17:09] <T-rog> i fixed it
#1785 [17:09] <NinjaKirby> Nice one
#1786 [17:09] <T-rog> you should log this issue in case it happens to somebody else
#1787 [17:09] <NinjaKirby> Pizza balls
#1788 [17:10] <T-rog> ?
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#1792 [17:13] <Buddykick> My worlds were erased with the udate today.
#1793 [17:13] <Buddykick> All I created was erased with the update today.
#1794 [17:13] <NinjaKirby> Nothing in your .minecraft/saves folder?
#1795 [17:14] <Buddykick> Where do I find the folder?
#1796 [17:14] <Buddykick> what
#1797 [17:15] <lutzee> ?? win/.minecraft
#1798 [17:15] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1799 [17:15] <NinjaKirby> Thanks Lutzee, I was preparing to type that sheeyart out -_- So much easier
#1800 [17:15] <NinjaKirby> Gotta remember these commands
#1801 [17:15] <Buddykick> We are operating on mac
#1802 [17:15] <T-rog> yucky. mac
#1803 [17:15] <lutzee> ?? mac/minecraft
#1804 [17:15] <lutzee> ?? mac/.minecraft
#1805 [17:15] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#1806 [17:15] <T-rog> NOOOOOOO
#1807 [17:16] <T-rog> it recreated the portal :'(
#1808 [17:16] <Buddykick> Did other people lose their worlds today?
#1809 [17:16] <NinjaKirby> And you say you broke, and re-initialised the Nether gate while you were there?
#1810 [17:17] <Buddykick> I will try to find the file, thank you.
#1811 [17:17] <T-rog> after I fixed it I went back and destroyed the other nether portal and next time I exited the nether it created a new one
#1812 [17:19] <T-rog> It looks like as long as that secondary portal is intact, but inactive, I'm gravy. But if destroy it, I'm screwed.
#1813 [17:20] <T-rog> NinjaKirby: You want me to zip up my world and upload it to mediafire so you can screw around with it if you have time?
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#1816 [17:21] <NinjaKirby> T-Rog, if that's cool yeah, I don't mind taking a gander :)
#1817 [17:21] <Racerman2001> ...
#1818 [17:24] <lutzee> You need an updated OGL for the snapshot? O.o
#1819 [17:24] <T-rog> note it is a converted (old) map and then one day I realized the central tower was one block off center, so I used MC edit to switch my survival mode to creative mode and correct it, and I added the spiral stone bricks as decoration during that time. Other than that, I built all of the castle by hand previously in survival mode. There's a giant stone quarry somewhere in the ground that you...
#1820 [17:24] <T-rog> ...won't find if you load up new game with that seed to prove it. The secondary portal is perilously close to the said quarry for some reason. 0.o
#1821 [17:25] <T-rog> I don't even want to talk about how long it took to make enough books to fill that library
#1822 [17:26] <T-rog> I'm leaving my diamond pickaxe and some obsidian in the first large chest on the left in the chestroom.
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#1827 [17:28] <NinjaKirby> lol, I like how we all pour so much real life time and effort into arranging Magnetic poles on a Hard Disc platter
#1828 [17:29] <patster21> Is there any way to generate a block in dirt rather than stone?
#1829 [17:29] <patster21> (if you don´t know, is there a channel dedicated to modding help ?)
#1830 [17:30] <T-rog> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?7tngkma41aqgnbd
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#1833 [17:35] <Septimus> is there a release of a bukkit server that is compatible with the 12w22a releasE?
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#1835 [17:41] <NinjaKirby> T-rog, how close is a Nether Gate to the spawn point? ^^;;
#1836 [17:41] <T-rog> where did you spawn
#1837 [17:41] <NinjaKirby> On a wooden platform, with a Chicken farm
#1838 [17:42] <T-rog> oops
#1839 [17:42] <EJM> Hello, I was wondering, I was messing around with some mods, but I only seem to have an older version of minecraft, is there anyway I can get 1.2.5? (seeing that minecraft.com is offline)
#1840 [17:42] <NinjaKirby> I'm at Z255, perhaps I should head closed to Z0
#1841 [17:42] <EJM> Or is minecraft.com the only way?
#1842 [17:42] <T-rog> NinjaKirby, that's the wrong save. Hold on a moment please
#1843 [17:42] <NinjaKirby> lol, dayum
#1844 [17:43] <T-rog> That's "The New World" isn't it??
#1845 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> Affirmative
#1846 [17:43] <T-rog> You should have gotten "Kubik Kingdom"
#1847 [17:43] <T-rog> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?7tngkma41aqgnbd
#1848 [17:43] <NinjaKirby> The RAR was called that, but alas, the folder within was New World
#1849 [17:44] <NinjaKirby> Domo
#1850 [17:44] <NinjaKirby> And my Mediafire account actually comes in handy for once
#1851 [17:44] <T-rog> lol lemme reupload
#1852 [17:44] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, yeah, I just downloaded same one twice XD
#1853 [17:49] <T-rog> 72%
#1854 [17:50] <T-rog> I'm sorry
#1855 [17:50] <T-rog> um
#1856 [17:50] <T-rog> with the new one you should spawn at a swamp near a mountain
#1857 [17:51] <T-rog> you should go in the opposite direction of the mountain toward a grassland
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#1859 [17:51] <T-rog> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?1ecjr29yjm52c3f
#1860 [17:51] <NinjaKirby> Understood
#1861 [17:51] <T-rog> this one should be right
#1862 [17:51] <T-rog> hopefully
#1863 [17:51] <Boreeas> EJM: What is your minecraft username?
#1864 [17:51] <EJM> neel1337
#1865 [17:51] <T-rog> I'll unzip the file I uploaded and sign in as NinjaKirby just to make sure
#1866 [17:52] <Boreeas> !paid neel1337
#1867 [17:52] <Boreeas> EJM: It should auto-update when you start it
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#1869 [17:52] <Boreeas> If that doesn't work, click "Force Update" in the launcher
#1870 [17:52] <EJM> Alright, thank you
#1871 [17:52] <Boreeas> You will lose your mods, though
#1872 [17:53] <EJM> It's alright, they didn't work either way :P
#1873 [17:53] <NinjaKirby> T-Rog: Okie dokie
#1874 [17:53] <T-rog> did you get it
#1875 [17:55] <NinjaKirby> Aye, all seems well
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#1877 [17:56] <T-rog> did you find my castle
#1878 [17:56] <NinjaKirby> Aye, found a Nether Gate that's not in operation also.
#1879 [17:56] <qbird2> i need help changing the lanuage on my mincraft
#1880 [17:56] <NinjaKirby> The Quarry one
#1881 [17:56] <qbird2> how do i do it
#1882 [17:57] <T-rog> oh lawd
#1883 [17:57] <qbird2> my main page where you push play is all in another wird language
#1884 [17:57] <T-rog> I hope you didn't fall in
#1885 [17:57] <qbird2> weird*
#1886 [17:57] <NinjaKirby> I'm gamemode+1, keep things easy.
#1887 [17:57] <T-rog> qbird: on the main page there is a speech bubble with a globe in it
#1888 [17:58] <T-rog> click that button
#1889 [17:58] <qbird2> your awesome thank you
#1890 [17:58] <T-rog> np
#1891 [17:59] <T-rog> NinjaKirby: oh so you're in creative mode
#1892 [17:59] <NinjaKirby> Aye, well, just launched with server, if that's the same thing
#1893 [17:59] <NinjaKirby> Is the intended Gate overworld side in the castle?
#1894 [18:00] <T-rog> yes. at the tip top of the tower
#1895 [18:00] <T-rog> err
#1896 [18:00] <T-rog> in there
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#1898 [18:03] <NinjaKirby> Damn ISP
#1899 [18:03] <T-rog> ?
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#1901 [18:04] <NinjaKirby> Unbelievable, I hate fukken' disconnects, it just messed everything up
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#1903 [18:06] <T-rog> singleplayer
#1904 [18:06] <T-rog> MCEdit can change you to gamemode1
#1905 [18:07] <NinjaKirby> Nah, it's my entire Internet connection, the exchange or ISP is derpin' it's herp
#1906 [18:07] <NinjaKirby> It's amazing I'm even connected at this 2.1Mbps tbh, maybe it's negotiated an unstable line
#1907 [18:07] <T-rog> singleplayer wouldn't depend on your internet :)
#1908 [18:08] <T-rog> you're lucky
#1909 [18:08] <T-rog> some people (like me) get 71kps
#1910 [18:08] <NinjaKirby> lol, my Server is this machine, I'm connecting to myself
#1911 [18:08] <T-rog> and they have to play StarCraft on that.
#1912 [18:08] <NinjaKirby> Oh god, yeah, I used to get that once upon a time.
#1913 [18:09] <NinjaKirby> Ugh ~_~
#1914 [18:09] <T-rog> something wrong?
#1915 [18:09] <T-rog> Wait
#1916 [18:10] <T-rog> NinjaKirby: why don't you connect to yourself over LAN
#1917 [18:10] <NinjaKirby> wert, lol, never mind XD
#1918 [18:10] <T-rog> :?
#1919 [18:10] <NinjaKirby> Anyway, the second gate that you don't want, is unfortunately in the "real" correct place
#1920 [18:11] <NinjaKirby> Why on earth it's decided to change now is a good question
#1921 [18:11] <T-rog> so all I'd have to do is create a "correct" gate for my tower and destroy the other two
#1922 [18:13] <NinjaKirby> Aye, well, since you appear to have done way more work in the Overworld, maybe just a little mining in the Nether to reposition correctly for your Fortress gate
#1923 [18:13] <NinjaKirby> It's on the smaller scale, so it's not far
#1924 [18:14] <T-rog> run that by me one more time?
#1925 [18:14] <T-rog> this part: maybe just a little mining in the Nether to reposition correctly for your Fortress gate
#1926 [18:14] <T-rog> means....wut?
#1927 [18:15] <NinjaKirby> X13 and Z15 in the Nether, if the gate is moved by... 7 along X axis, and 15 along Z Axis, it'll align to your Overworld Fortress gate
#1928 [18:16] * T-rog pushes F3
#1928 [18:17] <NinjaKirby> lol, although Z15 is floating over the cliffedge, and back towards the netherrack mountain wall
#1929 [18:17] <T-rog> oh shit a ghast
#1930 [18:17] <NinjaKirby> But you could make a fancy platform. I'll just test the location.
#1931 [18:18] <T-rog> YOU CAN REFLECT GHAST SHOTS WITH AN ARROW!?
#1932 [18:23] <NinjaKirby> Right, okay, it works
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#1934 [18:24] <T-rog> great. now I have two unwanted nether portals in the overworld. It has generated yet another
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#1936 [18:24] <BuzZBladE> hi
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#1938 [18:25] <NinjaKirby> I'm just uploading my modified version, can either stick with it or copy into you map (I haven't tampered with anything else though, heh)
#1939 [18:25] <BuzZBladE> im running a bukkit and i need permissions help, no one can tp on my server
#1940 [18:25] <T-rog> op them
#1941 [18:25] <BuzZBladE> op can tp fine
#1942 [18:26] <BuzZBladE> they arent getting ops though, they go crazy
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#1944 [18:26] <hudacheck> How do I use the goto feature? Whenever I click the goto link it brings me to the front page.
#1945 [18:26] <T-rog> then they can't tp
#1946 [18:26] <hudacheck> You can use permissions plugin
#1947 [18:26] <BuzZBladE> im using permissions bukkit plugin latest
#1948 [18:26] <hudacheck> Create your own permission class with tp allowed.
#1949 [18:27] <BuzZBladE> when people join are they default permissions
#1950 [18:27] <BuzZBladE> i have commandbook.teleport: true on them
#1951 [18:28] <BuzZBladE> but that doesnt seem to be the right permission to tp
#1952 [18:28] <BuzZBladE> its essentials teleport
#1953 [18:28] <hudacheck> You can check this out: http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/tp-beasttp-v1-0-easy-to-use-tp-plugin-permissions-1337.41392/
#1954 [18:28] <hudacheck> Or you can try messing around with permissions :3
#1955 [18:29] <BuzZBladE> instead of spawn: true would it be essenstials.spawn: true?
#1956 [18:29] <NinjaKirby> T-Rog: http://www.mediafire.com/?tq3q5sg4ytpictc
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#1958 [18:30] <hudacheck> Unfortunately, I don't know. My friend runs the server. :(
#1959 [18:31] <hudacheck> However, you can test it out. Change it to essentials.spawn, get some friends into the server. See if it works. If not, change it back.
#1960 [18:31] <BuzZBladE> yeah i was getting people earlier when i linked an addy on yalls site
#1961 [18:32] <BuzZBladE> now its faded off onto page 80 something lol
#1962 [18:33] <hudacheck> Okay, I figured out GOTO
#1963 [18:33] <hudacheck> Bye
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#1965 [18:43] <T-rog> have you guys ever encountered a website where they had a Captcha on their "Contact Us" and the text you entered was rejected every single time?
#1966 [18:44] <NinjaKirby> I experienced some real stubborn one's, fortunately never on sites I frequent
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#1968 [18:46] <T-rog> because we ordered a some NCSU bedding for my dorm (I'll be starting hte first week of august) and hte package they sent us was a Twin size not a Twin XL (which is what we ordered) and the matress cover was missing too, as was the receipt. They don't provide a telephone number or anything
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#1970 [18:47] <Newibe> Hello guys
#1971 [18:47] <NinjaKirby> Perhaps unlikely, but could try digging through the page source for the Email addy
#1972 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Lo Newibe
#1973 [18:48] <Newibe> Can someone help me?
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#1975 [18:48] <Newibe> i bought the game!
#1976 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Whoa, this is serious
#1977 [18:48] <NinjaKirby> Continue
#1978 [18:49] <Newibe> and i can't join with people !
#1979 [18:49] <Newibe> i dont wanna be alone
#1980 [18:49] <NinjaKirby> You've found a server you'd like to join, and have tried directly connecting via the Multiplayer menu?
#1981 [18:50] <Newibe> How?
#1982 [18:51] <NinjaKirby> The only one I have played is "dafreo.sytes.net" (without quotations, also inb4 kick for advertising?)
#1983 [18:51] <NinjaKirby> Try directly connecting to that server, it's one of hundreds free to play on, hosted by other players.
#1984 [18:52] <NinjaKirby> Multiplayer, then Direct Connect button, and input in the Address field
#1985 [18:53] <NinjaKirby> You might be more inclined to google and search the Server List websites, to find one that suits your gameplay style.
#1986 [18:53] <Newibe> second
#1987 [18:55] <Newibe> Ohh
#1988 [18:55] <Newibe> thx
#1989 [18:55] <Newibe> but can i make my own world then i invite my friends?
#1990 [18:56] <NinjaKirby> Yeah, you'll have to set up a Server (Fairly straight forward), and configure your Router to allow your friends to connect (Also not too difficult)
#1991 [18:56] <NinjaKirby> I think the MinecraftWiki has a good tutorial for Server installation and configuration
#1992 [18:56] <BuzZBladE> or u can come join me on my little server ^^
#1993 [18:58] <Newibe> type it
#1994 [18:58] <BuzZBladE> 206.255.28.229
#1995 [18:58] <BuzZBladE> i think i got the teleport to player thing finally working
#1996 [18:58] <BuzZBladE> silly permissions
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#1999 [19:05] <T-rog> yo NinjaKirby how do you set up a server if you hhave two routers?
#2000 [19:06] <NinjaKirby> I guess I wasn't very clear at one point XD I only have one Router
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#2002 [19:06] <T-rog> d'oh nobody can help me :'(
#2003 [19:06] <T-rog> maybe I won't have to worry about all that junk at NCSU XD
#2004 [19:06] <NinjaKirby> Why do you have two anyway? O_o Two phone lines?
#2005 [19:07] <T-rog> Well our modem is also a router, but we got a wireless router
#2006 [19:07] <T-rog> so that makes two routers
#2007 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> Or right, does that mean you have to port forward one to the other, then the other to your Server machine? ^^;;
#2008 [19:07] <NinjaKirby> Bounce the same port over and over again
#2009 [19:07] <T-rog> I tried that but it never worked for some reason.
#2010 [19:08] <T-rog> on any game
#2011 [19:08] <T-rog> and I got some IT people to come out here and try to fix it and they left scratching their heads
#2012 [19:08] <BuzZBladE> you just want to find your local ip
#2013 [19:08] <BuzZBladE> then route the minecraft server port to that ip
#2014 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> If it's that bad, I bet it's a Router Firewall not acting like it should do, I've heard that happen to some people.
#2015 [19:09] <BuzZBladE> it will be 192.168.1.***
#2016 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> But each Router would presumably need to be aware of incoming connections on the default port? Otherwise instant rejection
#2017 [19:10] <Scott> It is called double NAT.
#2018 [19:10] <Scott> You shouldn't put a router with NAT enabled in front of another router with NAT enabled.
#2019 [19:11] <Scott> You end up with crazy situations like this.
#2020 [19:11] <T-rog> my parents should have gotten a wireless access point and not a wireless router
#2021 [19:11] <Scott> Most wireless routers can act as Aps
#2022 [19:11] <Scott> APs*
#2023 [19:12] <Scott> You can usually setup your modem (even if it has a router function built-in) to issue the public IP to the device connected (which would be the wireless router).
#2024 [19:12] <Scott> Either way, it's easily fixed if you know what you're doing.
#2025 [19:12] * T-rog scratches head
#2025 [19:13] <T-rog> Scotty: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx?utm_expid=60202728-6&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CHAQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.teamviewer.com%252F%26ei%3DgpPrT8G0JKHa0QHs7KW4BQ%26usg%3DAFQjCNGHCZ-GmRwuRFVdksOAVFXeCWTYwg%26sig2%3DBCR7Cwl4ewLJqR_MDwMXrw
#2026 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> That's a Majestic Hyperlink
#2027 [19:15] <|Kiikun|> . . .
#2028 [19:15] <Scott> lol
#2029 [19:15] <Scott> I don't want to fix it :P
#2030 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> lol!
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#2033 [19:18] <T-rog> well thanks a lot
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#2035 [19:21] <T-rog> NinjaKirby: I downloaded the map you uploaded. My entire inventory is gone but I'll take a look at the changes you made and see if I can incorporate those changes into my map
#2036 [19:22] <Scott> Hey, I'm not paid to help here and I'm actually doing the job I'm paid to do. I told you the issue. :s
#2037 [19:22] <NinjaKirby> Inventory is gone? wert, should be able to copy your player .dat file into the Player folder, or something
#2038 [19:23] <T-rog> yeah that's where my new one is going to be
#2039 [19:23] <NinjaKirby> I personally didn't read T-rog's response with any emotionally charged sarcasm, but each to their own >_>
#2040 [19:24] <T-rog> it looks like everything should be right
#2041 [19:24] <NinjaKirby> I just realised, I rotated the Gate 90 degrees didn't I. Although it's practically spot on.
#2042 [19:25] <T-rog> Scotty: Hey sorry I'm not trying to sound ungreatrul or anyting but networking just doesn't click with me. I'm probably better at HTML coding and registry editing
#2043 [19:25] <T-rog> NinjaKirby: Oh wow I did the same thing lol
#2044 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> :D
#2045 [19:25] <T-rog> except I burrowed through the mountain
#2046 [19:25] <T-rog> but mine is still rotated 90 degrees
#2047 [19:25] <T-rog> and on the same coordinates
#2048 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> Erm, through the mountain? Different X and Z coordinates then? >_>
#2049 [19:26] <T-rog> I figured going through the mountain would make the pathway safer from ghasts
#2050 [19:26] <T-rog> no
#2051 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> Ah I see, I understand
#2052 [19:26] <T-rog> I went through the mountain and turned left
#2053 [19:26] <T-rog> instead of going straight and turning right
#2054 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> :3 Da
#2055 [19:27] <T-rog> da tovarish
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#2063 [20:06] <Juline> how do you do this
#2064 [20:06] <Juline> ok that's how
#2065 [20:06] <Juline> i have a mac and im trying to do the stand alone game
#2066 [20:06] <Juline> i puchased it but i can't find it if I don't have internet
#2067 [20:06] <Juline> it doesn't work
#2068 [20:07] <Juline> where do i download the stand alone? i went on the website and it says to download the zip file, which i did, but i unpacked it
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#2070 [20:07] <lutzee> the game will download the files when you log in
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#2072 [20:08] <Juline> i already logged in and it wasn't working on it's own last night after i was on
#2073 [20:08] <Juline> how long do i have to stay on for?
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#2075 [20:09] <lutzee> when you log into the launcher the game will download the files
#2076 [20:11] <Juline> i did log in, then when i had to leave and not have internet, it didn't work
#2077 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> Juline: when you say 'it didn't work', what exactly _did_ happen?
#2078 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? error
#2079 [20:11] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2080 [20:11] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
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#2082 [20:12] <Juline> hold on, let me get it up
#2083 [20:13] <Trickster> You'll find it difficult to log in on the launcher when you don't have a net connection, yeah.
#2084 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> Our ability to help you is only as good as the information that can be provided.
#2085 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> And, my ability is hampered by being unfamiliar with mac issues
#2086 [20:14] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: Java's java, most issues are just as cross-platform as the game is.
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#2088 [20:15] <NinjaKirby> "let me get it up" - What's going on in here?
#2089 [20:15] <Milbo> Hey there
#2090 [20:15] <GreyVulpine> I don't want to know..
#2091 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> What I'm hoping to do, is to explore more in to these 75.xxx.xxx.xxx local addresses that some people have
#2092 [20:15] <Juline> sorry, stupid mom, now it works!!
#2093 [20:15] <Juline> ok, keep it clean boys
#2094 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> 75.x local addresses?
#2095 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Are they perhaps behind a residential proxy/gateway server?
#2096 [20:16] <Milbo> Anyone know what a grey and black block that a diamond pickaxe cant seem to break an looks like its smoking is?
#2097 [20:16] <Juline> last night it wasn't working well
#2098 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Milbo - That would be bedrock
#2099 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> Yes, it's quite odd. The default gateway is on the same range too
#2100 [20:16] <DopeGhoti> Juline: glad to be of service? (:
#2101 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Milbo - You get it at the bottom of the world. It's unbreakable.
#2102 [20:17] <Milbo> Thanks Grey
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#2104 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Ruh-roh. Hide!
#2105 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: For example, this ipconfig info - http://mibpaste.com/MzsR9d
#2106 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> I mean, situation normal, continue on.
#2107 [20:17] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: AT&T owns 75.0.0.0/8
#2108 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> .rr? that's roadrunner.
#2109 [20:18] <Milbo> Another question. Is there a particular place that you find diamond? or is it just spread all over?
#2110 [20:18] <lutzee> hay marc :)
#2111 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, and people on that range don't seem to be able to access their router
#2112 [20:18] <GreyVulpine> Milbo - All over. It's just mighty scarce
#2113 [20:18] <DopeGhoti> AT&T probably leased the address space to whomever owns RR this year
#2114 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> All over? It's on the lower strata levels
#2115 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> Levels 2 to 16 is where diamond is found
#2116 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: also, ewww, Hamachi.
#2117 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, eww. Some people get desperate, but even I wouldn't get that desperate
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#2120 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> I've seen at least 5 different people over the past few days want to setup their server, but are being hampered by their at&t roadrunner setup
#2121 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> bedrock is the lower 5 layers
#2122 [20:23] <Milbo> Thanks again
#2123 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: This info comes from roadrunner's faq on statis ip addresses
#2124 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> "The standard residential Road Runner® service does not provide static/fixed IP addresses. Road Runner currently supplies a dynamic (leased) IP for customer's use. This dynamic IP is released and reset on a regular basis."
#2125 [20:25] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't tell me much
#2126 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> Almost every residential cable service does that
#2127 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> If a static ip cannot be achieved, doesn't that mean that a minecraft server should not be setup on it?
#2128 [20:30] <DiskDaemon> Would some good advice for roadrunner users be to get a separate router and set themselves up using that, instead of their at&t modem?
#2129 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Nah, just that they'll either need to get a domain name, or point them to one of the several DDNS services out there
#2130 [20:31] <Trickster> If they're setting up a server for themselves and their buddies, it doesn't really matter.
#2131 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> How will a domain name help when their ip address can change whenever they reconnect?
#2132 [20:32] <Trickster> "Hey dude, I can't connect." "IP changed, here's the new one."
#2133 [20:32] <Trickster> DDNS services monitor your IP for changes and update the DNS accordingly.
#2134 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> oh that's nice - can VoxelHead have that info added in relation to roadrunner and/or at&t accounts?
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#2136 [20:34] <puffrfish> I have roadrunner and I've had the same IP for at least 6 months
#2137 [20:34] <puffrfish> I have roadrunner and I've had the same IP for at least 6 months
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#2139 [20:37] <Trickster> If you don't reset your router in any way, you typically won't change.
#2140 [20:37] <WasThisMe> Hello, I have a problem.. When I log into minecraft, everything is fine, and I can connect to every server I have added except one. I've tried everything to be able to connect, and the serverowner has tried to help aswell, but nothing works. When logging onto my account on other computers, it works just fine. Any idea what's going on?
#2141 [20:39] <DiskDaemon> It sounds like something is going on with the server or the connection to it.
#2142 [20:39] <DiskDaemon> The problem doesn't seem to be on your end, because you can connect to many other servers, right?
#2143 [20:40] <WasThisMe> I can connect to other servers, except one.
#2144 [20:40] <Trickster> Can others connect to the one server?
#2145 [20:40] <WasThisMe> Yes.
#2146 [20:40] <DiskDaemon> Therefore, that implies the issue lies with the odd-one-out
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#2148 [20:41] <Trickster> Can you ping the server?
#2149 [20:41] <WasThisMe> Explain the question.
#2150 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> You would like to know what a ping is?
#2151 [20:41] <Trickster> Ping is a command on most computers that sends a packet to a particular IP to see if it is responding.
#2152 [20:42] <Trickster> Are you on Windows?
#2153 [20:42] <WasThisMe> Yes.
#2154 [20:42] <Trickster> Can you open a command prompt?
#2155 [20:42] <WasThisMe> I'm sorry for my bad knowledge of English. But I believe so.
#2156 [20:43] <Trickster> What version of Windows?
#2157 [20:43] <WasThisMe> Windows 7.
#2158 [20:43] <Trickster> Hit the windows button and type Command Prompt into the search box.
#2159 [20:43] <Trickster> Should bring up a window with C:\Users\****>
#2160 [20:44] <Trickster> (Adjusting for any language differences of course)
#2161 [20:45] <Trickster> ping google.com
#2162 [20:45] <Trickster> Will ping Google for example.
#2163 [20:45] <Trickster> Can use a DNS name or IP address.
#2164 [20:49] <Zyklon> Is it possible to increase server timeout delay?
#2165 [20:50] <superkabii> yes and no.
#2166 [20:51] <superkabii> it's not technically possible, however some people have developed solutions that continue to send the clients keep-alive packets regardless, in the end creating a longer timeout
#2167 [20:53] <Zyklon> Do you know where I'd find them?
#2168 [20:55] <superkabii> no, I've only met one person who has tried it, depends on the usage
#2169 [20:56] <Zyklon> Mm. The specific problem seems to be that someone in the house is using Netflix, and minecraft decides that one lost packet ought to constitute a timeout
#2170 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> If UDP were used, such dropped packets wouldn't be such a problem
#2171 [20:59] <Scott> QoS ;)
#2172 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> keep lowering the netflix throughput until complaints are received, then bump it upa bit and leave things there?
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#2174 [21:04] <Zyklon> Scott: I wish. Router's a piece of junk.
#2175 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> Zyklon: the best router is a Linux box with two NICs.
#2176 [21:07] <Zyklon> Aye
#2177 [21:08] <Scott> I like dd-wrt.
#2178 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Convoluted mess of an interface.
#2179 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Even though I use it, I wish I had something else.
#2180 [21:08] <DopeGhoti> I like shoreline firewall.
#2181 [21:08] <Scott> I just configure it and never touch it again
#2182 [21:09] <Scott> DopeGhoti and GreyVulpine: did you eat your obligatory oreos yet?
#2183 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Oreos?
#2184 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> wha?
#2185 [21:09] <Scott> oh come on :(
#2186 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
#2187 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> ^
#2188 [21:09] <Scott> http://www.click2houston.com/image/view/-/15318134/medRes/2/-/maxh/360/maxw/640/-/gtjgh5z/-/Oreo-rainbow-ad-jpg.jpg
#2189 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> That doesn't tell me much
#2190 [21:10] <Scott> Oreo made a LGBT pride ad and facebook went nuts
#2191 [21:10] * GreyVulpine shrugs.
#2191 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> Good for Oreo.
#2192 [21:10] <Scott> so now everyone has to buy oreos!
#2193 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> Good for Nabisco, I guess.
#2194 [21:10] <Scott> and eat them all at once.
#2195 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> So, that was 2 days ago?
#2196 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> I still don't eat 'em 'cause they're owned by Phillip-Morris.
#2197 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> No cancer cookies for me, please.
#2198 [21:11] <Scott> yeah
#2199 [21:11] <Scott> its still on going
#2200 [21:11] <Scott> people are like "I'm not buying Oreos anymore!"
#2201 [21:11] <Scott> "I'm switching to (insert other Nabisco brand)!"
#2202 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> *snrk*
#2203 [21:11] <Scott> Nabisco is owned by Kraft?
#2204 [21:11] <Scott> or does Phillip-Morris own Kraft?
#2205 [21:12] <GreyVulpine> !wiki kraft
#2206 [21:12] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraft_Foods
#2207 [21:12] <GreyBot> Kraft Foods Inc. (NASDAQ: KFT) is an American multinational confectionery, food and beverage conglomerate. It markets many brands in more than 170 countries. 12 of its brands annually earn more than $1 billion worldwide: Cadbury, Jacobs, Kraft, LU, Maxwell House, Milka, Nabisco, Oreo, Oscar Mayer, Philadelphia, Trident, Tang. Forty of its brands are at least a century old.
#2208 [21:12] <Scott> In which case, do you not eat anything that's packaged?
#2209 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> Scott: https://www.adbusters.org/files/newsletter/2010/tb4/Adbusters-Organized-Crime.gif
#2210 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> ^ all Phillip-Morris companies.
#2211 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> huh, they updated the image
#2212 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> not just PM anymore
#2213 [21:13] <Scott> How is Apple a Phillip-Morris company?
#2214 [21:13] <puffrfish> ^
#2215 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> that image used to be just PM-owned company logos.
#2216 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> I wonder what the new paradign is
#2217 [21:13] <Marc_IRL> There's also a lot of people who are like "I will buy MORE Oreos now"
#2218 [21:13] <Scott> Yes.
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#2220 [21:13] <Scott> I'm going to have to start buying them.
#2221 [21:14] <Marc_IRL> My GF for example :p https://twitter.com/Ashra37/status/217871822673285121
#2222 [21:14] <Scott> I usually don't but I bought some double stuf today.
#2223 [21:14] <Marc_IRL> Although I'm unsure if I'm going to like having Oreos in the house while I'm trying to lose weight...
#2224 [21:14] <Scott> Yeah… I'm trying to gain some muscl.e
#2225 [21:14] <Scott> muscle*
#2226 [21:15] <Scott> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/6/26/10/enhanced-buzz-22924-1340719725-7.jpg
#2227 [21:15] <Scott> This is so disturbing. :(
#2228 [21:15] <Marc_IRL> People like that make me want to get punchy
#2229 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> Th.. wh.. sigh.
#2230 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> so much ):
#2231 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> so much ):
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#2233 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> that said, I suppose I have no option but to stop and get myself some oreos on the way home from work today.
#2234 [21:17] <superkabii> I find his "god bless america" addition interestnig
#2235 [21:17] <Marc_IRL> I want actual rainbow oreos though
#2236 [21:17] <superkabii> interesting*, I'm not sure how that works
#2237 [21:18] <Scott> Me too.
#2238 [21:18] <Marc_IRL> Same kind of person who would be balls deep in a squealing hog, while firing a rifle into the air
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#2240 [21:21] <Jazzcat1231> I just downloaded minecraft, but i cant play because of some arror message thing involving a bad video card driver. can someone please explain this to me in simple english?
#2241 [21:24] <Zyklon> Jazzcat1231: Either update your
#2242 [21:24] <Zyklon> okay then
#2243 [21:24] <puffrfish> gotta be quick
#2244 [21:24] <Zyklon> gotta go fast
#2245 [21:24] <puffrfish> less than 15 second response time is unacceptable
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#2252 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Someone was in here a few days wanting help with their account. They migrated 2.5 months ago and all efforts to follow procedure to gain access to their account were for naught.
#2253 [21:54] <Marc_IRL> Someone, eh?
#2254 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: They provided their transaction id and email too. If there's something you might be able to do, can I get these details to you?
#2255 [21:54] * flyturtlefly [flyturtlefly@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2256 [21:54] <flyturtlefly> hi
#2257 [21:54] <flyturtlefly> anyone on
#2258 [21:55] <flyturtlefly> I said
#2259 [21:55] <flyturtlefly> ANYONE ON
#2260 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> sure
#2261 [21:55] <flyturtlefly> :D
#2262 [21:55] <flyturtlefly> yay
#2263 [21:55] <Marc_IRL> Wow.
#2264 [21:55] <Marc_IRL> Someone is patient.
#2265 [21:55] <flyturtlefly> LOL
#2266 [21:55] <flyturtlefly> xD
#2267 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> Receipt No: 1403-1666-7965-2909
#2268 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> Email: dennisMagnusson_4@hotmail.com and dennismagnusson@smashpotato.com
#2269 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> Cannot login with either username/password or email/password and has tried everything.
#2270 [21:55] <flyturtlefly> Guys
#2271 [21:55] <flyturtlefly> Do you eat your dogs crap
#2272 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> No, that should not have been pasted here. Bugger.
#2273 [21:56] <flyturtlefly> Cuz' my bro does
#2274 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, now anyone can take over his account
#2275 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> Good job.
#2276 [21:56] <ShaRose> yeah was thinking that should have been pmd
#2277 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRLL Well, their account name is Denaton, if anything can be done.
#2278 [21:56] * Marc_IRL kicked flyturtlefly from #minecrafthelp (Reason: lyturtlefly :flyturtlefly)
#2279 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> I helped Denaton yesterday
#2280 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> But he may need help again soon :p
#2281 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> Thank you mouse-without-borders for clobbering copy/paste across multiple machines
#2282 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> heh
#2283 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, that's good to know, cheers.
#2284 [21:57] <Marc_IRL> I'm trying to remember what he did to screw up his account
#2285 [21:57] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL can you flag his account saying the info was leaked or
#2286 [21:57] <Marc_IRL> I think he typo'd his original Minecraft email address, and then when he migrated, it carried over. Those guys can follow instructions for whatever as much as they want, but unfortunately, they'll still need us to edit the email.
#2287 [21:57] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: There's no such thing
#2288 [21:58] <ShaRose> you guys can't leave notations on accounts?
#2289 [21:58] <Marc_IRL> It's kind of that guy's fault if he just posted all of that in here in the first place, though
#2290 [21:58] * DiskDaemon really wants to wind back time by a minute or two
#2290 [21:58] <ShaRose> yeah, but he didn't. DiskDaemon probably got it by pm.
#2291 [21:58] <Marc_IRL> People think that we can do a lot of things. "As I'm sure you can see, we have only logged in three times, from these IPs."
#2292 [21:59] <Marc_IRL> Actually, I think we did just gain the ability to note Mojang accounts recently, though not standard Minecraft accounts
#2293 [22:00] <Marc_IRL> When I started the job, I couldn't even look up Mojang accounts. I gain new tools and abilities like every two weeks, as our web devs create them. Been making my job a lot easier.
#2294 [22:00] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL your systems are so terrible :(
#2295 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> ShaRose is right, it was pm'd to me initially. I was pasting the info in to an email just before on the other machine, and on this machine went to copy/paste something else, at which cross-computer copy/pasting issues occurred.
#2296 [22:00] <ShaRose> I feel for you bro
#2297 [22:00] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: At this point, I can do pretty much everything I need to.
#2298 [22:00] <ShaRose> DiskDaemon yeah, searched my logs, you bad boy
#2299 [22:00] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL yeah, but how good are those systems
#2300 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> I'm going to go polish my shoes now, I think. That's the most good I can do for now
#2301 [22:01] <ShaRose> aka do the fail regularly
#2302 [22:01] <Marc_IRL> They do what I need them to do. They're not like super pretty or anything, but *shrug*
#2303 [22:01] <Marc_IRL> No, they don't "fail"
#2304 [22:01] <ShaRose> they don't need to be pretty
#2305 [22:01] <ShaRose> att tried to make them pretty with phoenix, and god that system was so crap
#2306 [22:01] <ShaRose> some people loved it, but I was more of an advanced guy
#2307 [22:01] <Marc_IRL> I have text, a few fields, and some buttons. It does what our customers ned.
#2308 [22:01] <Marc_IRL> need*
#2309 [22:02] <ShaRose> phoenix had rolling cubes while you waited for it to load shit
#2310 [22:02] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL wait, since this guy's account was migrated can't you note it as such?
#2311 [22:02] <Marc_IRL> What purpose would that serve?
#2312 [22:03] <ShaRose> so that the other guys working support know to do something like verify email to make sure it's not a scam or something
#2313 [22:03] <Marc_IRL> "User gave out his personal info"
#2314 [22:04] <Marc_IRL> If I started noting accounts with that, I'd do nothing but note accounts
#2315 [22:04] <ShaRose> user didn't
#2316 [22:04] <ShaRose> some other derp ( DiskDaemon ) did
#2317 [22:04] <ShaRose> :V
#2318 [22:04] <Marc_IRL> How did DiskDaemon get it?
#2319 [22:04] <ShaRose> fair point
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#2321 [22:04] <Marc_IRL> "Because these are community resources, please do not give out your account information. Questions related to your account can only be answered by a Mojang customer support representative, via this site."
#2322 [22:04] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-technical-support-
#2323 [22:04] <ShaRose> very true
#2324 [22:05] <ShaRose> OH OH
#2325 [22:05] <Marc_IRL> Lawyer'd!
#2326 [22:05] <ShaRose> THEY ARE PLAYING ARREITY
#2327 [22:05] <ShaRose> english version
#2328 [22:06] <ShaRose> not sure if better or worse because I can understand what she's singing :S
#2329 [22:07] <ShaRose> actually, thinking about it Marc_IRL why aren't the other guys working with you on here as well
#2330 [22:07] <ShaRose> so there is always someone online in case of account issues
#2331 [22:07] <Marc_IRL> We don't do live help
#2332 [22:07] <Marc_IRL> In the time it took me to help that guy the other day, I could have done 50 emails
#2333 [22:08] <ShaRose> was it a complex issue at all or
#2334 [22:08] <Marc_IRL> I'm usually here on my personal time, or have it on in the background while I work.
#2335 [22:08] <Marc_IRL> No, it was not complex at all.
#2336 [22:08] <ShaRose> was it really hard getting info out of him? :P
#2337 [22:08] <Marc_IRL> Live help is not a good use of our time resources, which is why we do emails
#2338 [22:08] <ShaRose> I can sympathize tbh
#2339 [22:08] <Marc_IRL> It's hard getting info out of anyone. My last job was live help via instant messenger.
#2340 [22:08] <ShaRose> as I said, I was a rep with att
#2341 [22:08] <Marc_IRL> It takes them ten minutes to come up with a transaction ID, IF they have it. If you use email, they email it to you.
#2342 [22:09] <TheNytangel> Marc_IRL: I helped someone earlier :D
#2343 [22:09] <ShaRose> ATT Premier Returns and Exchanges department for almost 2 years
#2344 [22:09] <Marc_IRL> Anyway, the other guys aren't here because this isn't a Mojang channel, and they probably have better things to do with their free time than I do :p
#2345 [22:09] <ShaRose> we also had the eternal joy of having to process the order while they were on the phone
#2346 [22:09] <Marc_IRL> But as the customer support manager, I kind of enjoy getting my hands dirty, and interacting directly with the community
#2347 [22:09] <ShaRose> as soon as they hung up I had to close the account and that because we got another customer instantly
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#2349 [22:10] <ShaRose> yeah, one thing I wished for when I was working with att was the ability to actually contact a higher up sometimes
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#2351 [22:10] <ShaRose> I regularly found huge issues that needed fixing but all I could do is send off an escalation
#2352 [22:10] <ShaRose> and escalations team was sloooooow
#2353 [22:11] <ShaRose> I saw people waiting on iPhone returns for like
#2354 [22:11] <ShaRose> 3 months
#2355 [22:11] <Marc_IRL> When I worked at Regence BlueShield, we just called the help desk, and got someone a level above us almost instantly
#2356 [22:11] <ShaRose> it's supposed to be 10 days
#2357 [22:11] <ShaRose> help desk
#2358 [22:11] <ShaRose> god I wish
#2359 [22:11] <ShaRose> we were outsourced
#2360 [22:11] <mib_94sjir> I keep getting the "can't connect to minecraft.net"
#2361 [22:11] <ShaRose> if I can issues, I'd ask floor support
#2362 [22:11] <Marc_IRL> So I implemented a similar thing here where the team can assign an email to Kris or me, and then we get back to them
#2363 [22:11] <mib_94sjir> any idea how to fix this?
#2364 [22:11] <ShaRose> which half the time was just another rep like me
#2365 [22:11] <JohGoins> Jeb might be working on the login servers again
#2366 [22:11] <ShaRose> that'd be molly
#2367 [22:11] <Marc_IRL> Speaking of my free time... I'm going to go watch Tekken and eat pizza. Later people!
#2368 [22:12] <JohGoins> Nevermind, I can connect to minecraft.net
#2369 [22:12] <ShaRose> cya
#2370 [22:12] <rockstraw> i can't get on Lost Wave because it says i have too many alt accounts than server allows. i have no idea what this means. any help?
#2371 [22:12] <ShaRose> seen a few people say they can't connect to it, but it's working fine for me
#2372 [22:12] <mib_94sjir> I tried it on another of my home computers and it worked
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#2374 [22:12] <JohGoins> I dunno :l
#2375 [22:12] <mib_94sjir> :/
#2376 [22:12] <mib_94sjir> any idea where I can go for help?
#2377 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: Do you get some strange text in the upper part of the launcher?
#2378 [22:13] <ShaRose> DiskDaemon I saw you ask that earlier, what are you looking for exactly
#2379 [22:13] <mib_94sjir> the laucher is all gray with like random text
#2380 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> ShaRose: That's a direct symptom of Java using IPv6 to communicate
#2381 [22:13] <ShaRose> aaah
#2382 [22:13] <DiskDaemon> A solution is shown at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#2383 [22:13] <mib_94sjir> kk let me try that. Thank you
#2384 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> Or more directly, of the attempt to communicate using IPv6 not being responded to by minecraft.net
#2385 [22:14] <ShaRose> java is dumb to not use an ipv4 address for that
#2386 [22:14] <JohGoins> Tsk tsk Java
#2387 [22:14] <DiskDaemon> June 6 is when that change occurred, when the internet "officially" went over to using IPv6.
#2388 [22:15] <ShaRose> yes, but minecraft.net doesn't have an ipv6 record, it should fall back to ipv4
#2389 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> It should, but from the many people comeing here with the problem, it doesn't
#2390 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> There is a global setting that the launcher should be able to set though, to state that it requires IPv4 to be preferred
#2391 [22:16] <mib_94sjir> I'm sorry, but I do not understand how to make Java use ipv4. The instructions don't make sense to me
#2392 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> There is also similar help at minecrafr forums, in this thread http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/
#2393 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> There is also a minecraft-ipv4.bat file that you can download from http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38939323/minecraft/minecraft-ipv4.bat
#2394 [22:18] <mib_94sjir> oh okay. and where do I put the file once I download it?
#2395 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> In the same folder where the minecraft.exe file is kept.
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#2398 [22:21] <Carly> Hello
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#2400 [22:21] <mib_94sjir> so i just need to have the minecraft.exe and the .bat file in the same folder? that is it?
#2401 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> correct
#2402 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> Carly: hi there
#2403 [22:22] <JohGoins> Yep
#2404 [22:22] <Carly> I was wondering if someone could hack into my minecraft account and find out my password a hacker changed it
#2405 [22:22] <Carly> My email was resetted as well
#2406 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> Carly: No, but someone could try to guess your password
#2407 [22:22] <mib_94sjir> oh. It didn't work then :/
#2408 [22:23] <JohGoins> As far as I know, you cant "hack" into accounts
#2409 [22:23] <Carly> Ive tried everything tho, so I dont know the password
#2410 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: Did you run the batch file, or something else?
#2411 [22:23] <Carly> I even emailed the Mojang team and they didnt email me back
#2412 [22:24] <JohGoins> They have lives, they arent instant
#2413 [22:24] <Carly> I know
#2414 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> Carly: There is around a 2 month delay on emails at the moment
#2415 [22:24] <JohGoins> Although I wish they would do it quicker
#2416 [22:24] <mib_94sjir> When I ran the batch file a small black screen popped up and then closed
#2417 [22:24] <Carly> WHOA
#2418 [22:24] <Carly> I thought it was a few days
#2419 [22:24] <JohGoins> I know
#2420 [22:24] <Carly> lol
#2421 [22:24] <Carly> I guess I'll wait then
#2422 [22:24] <JohGoins> They get 500 e-mails a day
#2423 [22:24] <Carly> and the update will be out soon so yeah
#2424 [22:25] <JohGoins> They releashed a new snapshot with lots of bug fixes, so it would be soon
#2425 [22:25] <Carly> I can access my account but if someone else logs into my minecraft launcher I cant log in anymore
#2426 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: Hang on - I'll put together something in a few moments that does a better job of finding your java from within a batch file
#2427 [22:25] <mib_94sjir> Sure. Thank you. I wish I was more proficient at this
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#2429 [22:26] <Carly> Well thanks :D I'll have to be patient then :D
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#2431 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: Can you go to the command prompt and run "java -version" - I'd like to check something
#2432 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> The command prompt can be accessed by pressing Win+r to bring up the Run dialog, and typing "cmd"
#2433 [22:30] <mib_94sjir> weird, said my computer could not find it
#2434 [22:30] <mib_94sjir> oh wait
#2435 [22:30] <JohGoins> You probably made a typo
#2436 [22:31] <mib_94sjir> i just did what you said and a black window came up
#2437 [22:31] <JohGoins> Thats cmd
#2438 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> Good, now type "java -version" in there without the quotes
#2439 [22:32] <mib_94sjir> kk I did that and it says that it is not a recognized as an internal or external command, operable program, or batch file
#2440 [22:32] <JohGoins> Weird
#2441 [22:33] <JohGoins> Typo? You should have java installed
#2442 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that's why the batch file disn't do anything then. Java can't be found from your command line
#2443 [22:34] <mib_94sjir> I know that I have java on my computer so I guess that must be it. Is there a way to fix it?
#2444 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> This alternate version has a search through your registry, to find java, and then uses that to run minecraft.
#2445 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38939323/minecraft/minecraft-findjava-ipv4.bat
#2446 [22:35] <mib_94sjir> kk I downloaded it. Do I run it?
#2447 [22:35] <DiskDaemon> Put it where your minecraft.exe file is, then run it
#2448 [22:36] <mib_94sjir> It says Java.exe could not be found
#2449 [22:36] <mib_94sjir> one moment, I am going to try something
#2450 [22:36] <JohGoins> You probably don't have your java directory in the right place
#2451 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> I've also seen it say that when the JDK is installed with no JRE
#2452 [22:37] <mib_94sjir> okay that did not work
#2453 [22:37] <mib_94sjir> should I reinstall it?
#2454 [22:37] <JohGoins> Try installing Java 6 (or 7) again
#2455 [22:37] <JohGoins> Then try DiskDaemon's advice
#2456 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> We could also find out where his java is installed, and add that to his system path. That way the minecraft-ipv4.bat will be able to work just fine
#2457 [22:38] <mib_94sjir> whatever you guys think is best I'll do
#2458 [22:39] <JohGoins> mib, can you search for java directory? Try your program files first
#2459 [22:39] <JohGoins> Or just install Java again
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#2461 [22:40] <mib_94sjir> so I have the screen on the java install. Where should I make the folder it installs to?
#2462 [22:40] <JohGoins> The default, just my suggestion
#2463 [22:41] <JohGoins> DiskDaemon can help you from here, I will be right back
#2464 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> I notice that my computer here doesn't java java in the path, but it does have java.exe in the Windows\System32\ folder, which is why it can be easily found. Is there some reason why his install wouldn't have done that?
#2465 [22:41] <mib_94sjir> okay thank you. Installing now
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#2467 [22:41] <BONG> ahhh help
#2468 [22:42] <JohGoins> Ok, im back
#2469 [22:42] <BONG> i try to play dis game on multi player
#2470 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: You may need to install Java with administrator permissions
#2471 [22:42] <BONG> and it dont work
#2472 [22:42] <BONG> ...
#2473 [22:42] <JohGoins> Hopefully Java 7 will fix all this install folder issues
#2474 [22:42] <JohGoins> Bong, we need more info
#2475 [22:42] <BONG> it says the server is probly down
#2476 [22:42] <mib_94sjir> I didn't ask me to do that. I will try. I reinstalled it and the bat file could not find the .exe file
#2477 [22:43] <BONG> but it says that for every server ive tryed
#2478 [22:43] <JohGoins> It seriously says "Connection lost, this server is probly down"?
#2479 [22:43] <BONG> yep
#2480 [22:43] <JohGoins> Are you sure you entered the right ip? The right port?
#2481 [22:43] <BONG> yup
#2482 [22:43] <JohGoins> It might be your internet
#2483 [22:43] <BONG> ive tryed like 10 different ones lol
#2484 [22:43] <BONG> it worked for single player
#2485 [22:44] <mib_94sjir> i located my java folder by the way
#2486 [22:44] <JohGoins> Singleplayer doesnt use your internet connection other than downloading your player info
#2487 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: we need your computer to know where your java is though
#2488 [22:44] <BONG> ...
#2489 [22:44] <JohGoins> Which is downloaded when you login
#2490 [22:45] <mib_94sjir> if i tell you the file location would that help?
#2491 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: That can be done either by installing java as an administrator, or by manually copying java.exe from your java bin folder in to your windows system32 folder
#2492 [22:46] <mib_94sjir> i am running the installer again as an Admin
#2493 [22:46] <BONG> it says failed to connect you failed to connect to the server, its probably down!
#2494 [22:46] <BONG> help :/
#2495 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: If "java -version" fails to run from the command prompt, then something is still wrong
#2496 [22:46] <JohGoins> We need more info, maybe a error log?
#2497 [22:47] <JohGoins> We cant help you then other than saying your internet isnt liking you
#2498 [22:47] <BONG> lol im playing runescape
#2499 [22:47] <mib_94sjir> Right now my java folder is in my Program Files (x86) folder
#2500 [22:47] <BONG> so my internet isnt fked up
#2501 [22:47] <mib_94sjir> should I move it?
#2502 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: No, don't move it
#2503 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: Check if the java command can work from the cmd prompt after you did that install
#2504 [22:49] <mib_94sjir> still says: it is not recongized as an internal, external etc. file
#2505 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: You may want to download java's offline install, so that you can then right-click on the downloaded file and tell it to run as an administrator
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#2507 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#2508 [22:53] <mib_94sjir> okay i just did that
#2509 [22:53] <mib_94sjir> it worked!
#2510 [22:53] <mib_94sjir> THANK YOU :D
#2511 [22:53] <BONG> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2857/120627215338.png
#2512 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> good one. Now try that minecraft-ipv4.bat file
#2513 [22:53] <BONG> this is wut is says
#2514 [22:54] <BONG> ....
#2515 [22:54] <mib_94sjir> my minecraft is now working
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#2517 [22:54] <mib_94sjir> thank you so much guys
#2518 [22:54] <BONG> some1 help meh
#2519 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> mib_94sjir: you're welcome. I'll add that batch file (and java troubleshooting info) to the help page now
#2520 [22:54] <geraldbrent> Come back if you need anything else mib_94sjir!
#2521 [22:54] <BONG> DiskDaemon help meh?
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#2525 [22:55] <geraldbrent> BONG, state your question.
#2526 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> BONG: Can you summarise the issue again?
#2527 [22:55] <BONG> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2857/120627215338.png
#2528 [22:55] <BONG> there goes my issue ^
#2529 [22:55] <BONG> i click play multi player
#2530 [22:55] <BONG> and click a server
#2531 [22:55] <BONG> and that happens
#2532 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> Failed to connect. What sort of ping time are you getting to one of the servers?
#2533 [22:56] <BONG> ive tryed several servers
#2534 [22:56] <BONG> all do that ...
#2535 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> BONG: Which minecraft is this with. The classic one or the paid one?
#2536 [22:57] <BONG> classic
#2537 [22:58] <BONG> im new to mine craft i wanna check it out b4 i go buy it :P
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#2540 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> I think I recall hearing that classic multiplayer no longer works, but I'lls ee if I can find confirming info from somewhere
#2541 [22:59] <BONG> k
#2542 [22:59] <mib_oxdqby> hello it is mib again, i just had a short question
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#2544 [23:00] <mib_oxdqby> My minecraft runs when I click on the batch file but does not work when I click on the minecraft.exe
#2545 [23:00] <mib_oxdqby> Does this mean I need to
#2546 [23:00] <mib_oxdqby> (sorry) click the Batch file first from now on?
#2547 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> mib_oxdqby: The batch file tells java to use IPv4 instead of IPv6. While the problem remains, you'll have to continue telling java to prefer IPv4 with the batch file
#2548 [23:01] <mib_oxdqby> okay No problem, as long as it works
#2549 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> BONG: It seems that the information from that error message is correct. The server you're trying to connect to is no longer available
#2550 [23:01] <mib_oxdqby> thank you again
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#2552 [23:01] <BONG> so classic cant play multi?
#2553 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> That I'm not so sure about. What I am more sure about is that you seem to be trying to connect to old servers that aren't running anymore
#2554 [23:02] <BONG> k
#2555 [23:03] <BONG> can u help me find a server?
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#2558 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> sure, I can try
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#2560 [23:04] <BONG> thanks :)
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#2563 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> BONG: There seem to be quite a few listed at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/44-classic-creative-servers/
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#2566 [23:06] <BONG> ok thanks
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#2574 [23:21] <crumbhead> where can i find help with server errors?
#2575 [23:25] <DiskDaemon> we can try to give some help with them here
#2576 [23:28] <crumbhead> I'm getting lots of these errors: http://pastebin.com/XJfgrZeL
#2577 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> Can you paste the complete error report?
#2578 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> crumbhead: Also, is this with an unmodded server, or with some other one such as bukkit?
#2579 [23:32] <crumbhead> that's the error over and over again should there be more? Its a lot
#2580 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> ahh, it's in the console then. right.
#2581 [23:33] <crumbhead> yes
#2582 [23:33] <crumbhead> and its a bukkit
#2583 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> it looks like parts of the map are corrupted
#2584 [23:33] <crumbhead> it seemed to start when exploring uncharted territory
#2585 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> The #bukkit channel is where you should be able to get better help with such bukkit issues
#2586 [23:34] <crumbhead> then when i went to another part of the world it stopped
#2587 [23:34] <crumbhead> ok
#2588 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> We really only have the manpower here to support unmodded systems
#2589 [23:34] <crumbhead> i understand. tnx for the guidance
#2590 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome, and good luck
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#2594 [23:51] <Lukepro> Hello... anyone there
#2595 [23:52] <DiskDaemon> sure
#2596 [23:52] <Lukepro> When i try to make a screenshot it says
#2597 [23:52] <Lukepro> ...
#2598 [23:53] <Lukepro> Faild to save:java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:number
#2599 [23:54] <Lukepro> of remaing buffer
#2600 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> I've seen that one occur when the screenshots folder gets to be too full
#2601 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> No hang on, that was something else
#2602 [23:55] <Lukepro> i empteyed it out to a diffrent folder so yeah
#2603 [23:55] <Lukepro> its something else
#2604 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> That error occurs when Java doesn't have enough memory to create the screenshot
#2605 [23:55] <Lukepro> Oh.
#2606 [23:55] <Lukepro> how can i ...
#2607 [23:55] <Lukepro> um
#2608 [23:56] <Lukepro> i dont know how can i make it so i can make more screen shots
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#2610 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> I'll see what info I can find on that
#2611 [23:56] <Lukepro> thanks
#2612 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> Are you using a texture pack of some kind?
#2613 [23:57] <Lukepro> yes
#2614 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> What size is the texture pack. 16x, 32x, 64x or something else?
#2615 [23:57] <Lukepro> umm . 64
#2616 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> When you press F3 for the debug info, what does it say for your allocated memory?
#2617 [23:58] <Lukepro> umm hold on
#2618 [23:59] <Lukepro> 50%
#2619 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> Also on the left of the F3 screen, 4 lines down, is an "All: xxx" value. What's that one too?
#2620 [23:59] <Lukepro> 495 MB
#2621 [23:59] <Lukepro> umm