#1 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> Do you currently tell java to allocate more memory for Minecraft, or do you use the default amount?
#2 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> Whcih texture pack are you using?
#3 [00:00] <Lukepro> umm
#4 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> Sphax?
#5 [00:01] <Lukepro> no
#6 [00:01] <Lukepro> LB photo Realism
#7 [00:01] <Lukepro> wait can i take screenshots if i just use default texture pack.
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#9 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> Test it out. That way we'll know if your texture pack is causing the issue, and can take steps from there
#10 [00:02] <Lukepro> ok
#11 [00:03] <Lukepro> didnt work
#12 [00:04] <Lukepro> the end of the sentence says...
#13 [00:04] <DiskDaemon> I see some people are using the boombox mod with photo realism, are getting that problem. Are you running the boombox mod?
#14 [00:05] <Lukepro> remaing buffer elements is 1229760. must be atleast.... no....
#15 [00:05] <Lukepro> no mods
#16 [00:05] <Lukepro> 2757120
#17 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> Try allocating more memory to minecraft
#18 [00:06] <Lukepro> How would i do that
#19 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/350344-allocating-more-memory-to-java-windows/
#20 [00:07] <Lukepro> ok hold on
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#22 [00:08] <abc123> hey i was at minecon but didnt get a cape
#23 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> You had to give your account name when you bought your ticket for minecon, to receive the cape
#24 [00:10] <abc123> O Crap i did not do that my dad bought the ticket
#25 [00:10] <abc123> i dont think he did...
#26 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> If you have proof of purchase, you might be able to contact mojang about it
#27 [00:11] <abc123> um ill have to look
#28 [00:11] <abc123> i dont think so but i REALLY hope
#29 [00:11] <abc123> the capes are soo cool
#30 [00:12] <Lukepro> Hey DiskDaemon
#31 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> Lukepro: yes?
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#33 [00:12] <Lukepro> I did that but it still wont take a screen shot
#34 [00:12] <abc123> thanks for your help
#35 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> Lukepro: Reinstall minecraft without any mods, then try again.
#36 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> Apply the texture pack, try again.
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#38 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> Install mods one at a time. Trying again between each mod.
#39 [00:13] <icecube45> okay guys, i need some help, trying to play minecraft on ubuntu
#40 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> That way, step by step, you'll spot what causes the problem.
#41 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> icecube45: What seems to be the problem?
#42 [00:14] <icecube45> well
#43 [00:14] <icecube45> i boot it up
#44 [00:14] <icecube45> and log in
#45 [00:14] <Lukepro> ok
#46 [00:14] <icecube45> to a blackscreen after it downlaods everything
#47 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> Lukepro: When things work properly, make a backup of minecraft.jar in case the next unknown step causes a problem
#48 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> icecube45: Does minecraft give you an error report when you run it from the command line?
#49 [00:15] <icecube45> well
#50 [00:15] <icecube45> ill try it
#51 [00:15] <icecube45> and tell u
#52 [00:16] <icecube45> ready for this?
#53 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> not here.
#54 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#55 [00:16] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#56 [00:17] <icecube45> i know what pastebin is
#57 [00:17] <icecube45> i was gonna paste the link :3
#58 [00:17] <DiskDaemon> thanks :)
#59 [00:17] <icecube45> http://pastebin.com/Vefr9esd
#60 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> icecube45: Which java are you using? openjava or sunjava?
#61 [00:18] <icecube45> i have both
#62 [00:19] <icecube45> i ran the command java -jar minecraft.jar
#63 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> I see on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10916388 that they fixed that issue by using sun java
#64 [00:19] <icecube45> ive tried sun's java
#65 [00:19] <icecube45> ill try to test
#66 [00:19] <icecube45> then let u know
#67 [00:19] <icecube45> .k?
#68 [00:19] <icecube45> just a question
#69 [00:20] <icecube45> sudo command for sun's java?
#70 [00:20] <icecube45> ima try to download again
#71 [00:20] <icecube45> to see if i have most rexent version
#72 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> I'm not aufait with linux, but I'll see what I can find
#73 [00:20] <icecube45> thanks
#74 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> java -version is the standard parameter for the version
#75 [00:21] <icecube45> i havent been able to find sun's java
#76 [00:21] <icecube45> a sudo command for it
#77 [00:21] <JohnEBH> http://superuser.com/questions/353983/how-do-i-install-the-sun-java-sdk-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneric -Sun Java Install
#78 [00:21] <icecube45> thanks
#79 [00:21] <JohnEBH> Don't be mislead by the title, also has 12.04 instructions.
#80 [00:22] <Scott> That is for Java 7.
#81 [00:22] <Scott> Mojang doesn't support Java 7.
#82 [00:22] <JohnEBH> Might as well try it >.> I use 7 and it works fine.
#83 [00:23] <DiskDaemon> Does that mean that all Minecraft players should prevent their machines from updating to java 7?
#84 [00:23] <Scott> Apple hasn't pushed Java 7 out. I don't know about Oracle.
#85 [00:23] <JohnEBH> It's more of, if 7 doesn't work... Revert to 6.
#86 [00:23] <JohnEBH> ?? java
#87 [00:23] <VoxelHead> java: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u31-download-1501637.html
#88 [00:24] <JohnEBH> ?? getjava
#89 [00:24] <VoxelHead> getjava: http://www.java.com/en/download/
#90 [00:24] <JohnEBH> Get java links to version 7 update 5
#91 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> The main issue from the report seems to be: "libjawt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
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#93 [00:25] <icecube45> guys
#94 [00:25] <icecube45> Note, selecting 'oracle-java7-installer' instead of 'sun-java6-jdk' Note, selecting 'oracle-java7-installer' instead of 'sun-java6-plugin'
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#96 [00:25] <icecube45> :(
#97 [00:25] <DiskDaemon> A potential solution to openjdk issue, is at http://notes.ericjiang.com/posts/583
#98 [00:27] <icecube45> im going to try that
#99 [00:28] <icecube45> hopefully it works
#100 [00:29] <icecube45> well DiskDaemon
#101 [00:29] <icecube45> that semi worked
#102 [00:30] <DiskDaemon> nice one
#103 [00:30] <JohnEBH> Elaborate on "semi worked" xD
#104 [00:30] <icecube45> now im getting
#105 [00:30] <DiskDaemon> resolving one issue helps to reveal something else?
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#107 [00:31] <icecube45> well
#108 [00:31] <icecube45> the lwgl error is gone now
#109 [00:31] <icecube45> now im getting
#110 [00:31] <icecube45> pastebin.com/jHLWsUVj
#111 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> "java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: getPointer" - interesting
#112 [00:33] <icecube45> yes, well, while you figure it out, i shall tell how i started using ubuntu
#113 [00:33] <icecube45> One day, after about a week in my closet, i turned my computer on
#114 [00:33] <icecube45> it flashed to a command line to operating system not found
#115 [00:33] <icecube45> my hard drive had blown out
#116 [00:34] <icecube45> well, after a bit of nerdyness, i installed ubuntu to my flashdrive, and now am booting from my flashdrive
#117 [00:34] <icecube45> the end
#118 [00:34] <JohnEBH> Er...
#119 [00:35] <JohnEBH> I wouldn't use my flash drive to play Minecraft on
#120 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> icecube45: I see from https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=978926 that downgrading to java 6 resolves that issue
#121 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> icecube45: It's also reported that the error is triggered by threading problems
#122 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> icecube45: And that it can be solved by using the GameTaskQueueManager, whatever that is :)
#123 [00:37] <icecube45> uh huh
#124 [00:37] <icecube45> let me google that
#125 [00:39] <icecube45> http://www.jmonkeyengine.com/doc/com/jme/util/GameTaskQueueManager.html
#126 [00:39] <icecube45> now i need to figure out how to use it
#127 [00:40] <icecube45> any help on that @DiskDaemon?
#128 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> I haven't experienced that issue before, but it seems that people are talking about three main solutions for it. One is fiddling with java, another is fiddling with their version of lwjgl, and the other is that gametaskqueuemanager
#129 [00:42] <icecube45> uh huh.....
#130 [00:42] <icecube45> well i found this
#131 [00:42] <icecube45> http://www.jmonkeyengine.com/doc/com/jme/util/GameTaskQueueManager.html
#132 [00:42] <icecube45> i dont knwo how i would fix it tho
#133 [00:42] <icecube45> so, should i try running with openjdk 6?
#134 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> I have no info on what actually works, other than second-hand via forums where people clai to have resolved it
#135 [00:44] <DiskDaemon> so, I have to admit to complete and utter ignorance on this particular issue
#136 [00:45] <icecube45> i hate that
#137 [00:45] <icecube45> when people say i solved it
#138 [00:45] <icecube45> but dont tell u how they did
#139 [00:45] <icecube45> same error with openjdk6
#140 [00:46] <icecube45> i wish i could get it working
#141 [00:46] <icecube45> i just want to play minecraft
#142 [00:47] <icecube45> thanks for what u tried
#143 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> we are all community volunteers here, unaffiliated with Mojang. We help where we can though
#144 [00:48] <icecube45> ya, i know
#145 [00:48] <icecube45> thanks tho
#146 [00:48] <icecube45> if you would love to keep searching, thanks
#147 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> The last time I messed around with Ubuntu was several years ago. I wish I could help further
#148 [00:48] <icecube45> but i understand if u dont want to
#149 [00:48] <icecube45> ive searched for ages
#150 [00:49] <icecube45> i might go on the ubuntu support irc
#151 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> Try from these results: http://www.google.co.nz/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&safe=off&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22java.lang.NoSuchMethodError%3A%20getPointer%22%20ubuntu&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=c0a71f853a7e4a00&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1440&bih=775
#152 [00:49] <icecube45> see if i can find anything there
#153 [00:50] <icecube45> hmm
#154 [00:50] <icecube45> http://slick.javaunlimited.net/viewtopic.php?t=2774
#155 [00:50] <icecube45> might work
#156 [00:50] <icecube45> but where would i find that .jasr
#157 [00:50] <icecube45> .jar*
#158 [00:51] <Scott> openjdk6 works for me with Minecraft
#159 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> I'll have a look on the lwjgl site and see what I can find
#160 [00:53] <icecube45> thanks
#161 [00:53] <icecube45> Scott
#162 [00:53] <icecube45> it doesnt for me...
#163 [00:53] <Scott> what does it do?
#164 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> icecube45: go to http://www.lwjgl.org/download.php and download the latest stable release
#165 [00:54] <icecube45> tried that
#166 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> In the downloaded zip is a native/linux folder
#167 [00:54] <icecube45> and replaced the files in /natives and the others
#168 [00:54] <Scott> Why doesn't it work?
#169 [00:54] <icecube45> scott
#170 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> I couldn't say in that regard. I would try with the .jar files that are in the zip file first
#171 [00:55] <icecube45> blackscreens scott
#172 [00:55] <Scott> You don't need to highlight me.
#173 [00:55] <icecube45> kk
#174 [00:55] <icecube45> sorry
#175 [00:55] <Scott> What graphics card do you use?
#176 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> his error report is at http://pastebin.com/jHLWsUVj
#177 [00:55] <icecube45> um
#178 [00:56] <icecube45> where can i find my graphics?
#179 [00:56] <DiskDaemon> ubuntu should have a sysinfo command
#180 [00:57] <DiskDaemon> sudo aptitude install sysinfo
#181 [00:57] <Scott> you don't need to do that
#182 [00:57] <Scott> Open System Settings and under System click Details
#183 [00:57] <Scott> Then go to Graphics
#184 [00:58] <icecube45> my driver is unknown, may have found my problum
#185 [00:58] <Scott> Yes, that's more than likely your problem.
#186 [00:58] <icecube45> how would i get my driver tho
#187 [00:59] <icecube45> get it to recognize it
#188 [00:59] <Scott> That would depend on your graphics hardware.
#189 [00:59] <Scott> Go back to System Settings and click on Additional Drivers
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#191 [01:00] <icecube45> found a forum for it
#192 [01:00] <icecube45> its cause i need 2 install a pakage
#193 [01:00] <icecube45> ill test it out
#194 [01:00] <Scott> It is much more complicated than that.
#195 [01:00] <Scott> You need to install specific drivers.
#196 [01:00] <Scott> It isn't one size fits all.
#197 [01:00] <icecube45> no its a bug
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#199 [01:01] <icecube45> bug number 90000 or something
#200 [01:01] <icecube45> where it wont recognize it
#201 [01:01] <icecube45> without a package
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#203 [01:01] <icecube45> yup, recognizes it now, ill test
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#205 [01:03] <Newts> My server is acting up.
#206 [01:03] <Newts> ?
#207 [01:03] <Scott> You're going to have to restart before the new drivers (if you installed any) will be active.
#208 [01:03] <Scott> Newts: care to be more specific?
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#210 [01:04] <icecube45> im still getting the same error
#211 [01:04] <icecube45> ill check for drivers
#212 [01:04] <Newts> we updated the permissions, then applied them, and it keeps saying, "Error: Null"
#213 [01:04] <icecube45> Newts
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#215 [01:04] <icecube45> most likely something in the permissions is wrong
#216 [01:04] <icecube45> causeing the null error
#217 [01:05] <Newts> Like possibly what?
#218 [01:05] <icecube45> well, idk
#219 [01:05] <icecube45> what permissions are u using
#220 [01:05] <Newts> root manager.
#221 [01:05] <Newts> or something like that.
#222 [01:05] <icecube45> never heard of it...
#223 [01:05] <icecube45> i prefer bpermissions
#224 [01:05] <Scott> Newts: What permissions?
#225 [01:06] <Newts> groups.yml
#226 [01:06] <Scott> icecube45: open Additional Drivers in System Settings
#227 [01:06] <icecube45> scott
#228 [01:06] <icecube45> no drivers
#229 [01:06] <icecube45> except the wireless one that i have
#230 [01:06] <Scott> Newts: You should ask in #bukkit or #bukkithelp. We don't help with mods and Craftbukkit is a mod.
#231 [01:07] <Scott> Do you even know what graphics hardware you have (if any)?
#232 [01:07] <Newts> thanks.
#233 [01:07] <icecube45> scott
#234 [01:07] <Scott> Stop highlighting me. ._.
#235 [01:07] <icecube45> Intel® 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 is my driver
#236 [01:08] <Scott> Okay.
#237 [01:08] <Scott> Open a terminal and type "java -version"
#238 [01:08] <Scott> what does it say?
#239 [01:08] <icecube45> java version "1.7.0_05" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_05-b05) Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 23.1-b03, mixed mode)
#240 [01:08] <Scott> well that's the problem.
#241 [01:09] <Scott> you need java 6
#242 [01:09] <icecube45> well ive been running it with openjdk 6
#243 [01:09] <Scott> open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre"
#244 [01:09] <icecube45> i have that
#245 [01:09] <Scott> then you need to update the symlink
#246 [01:09] <icecube45> ?
#247 [01:09] <icecube45> im launching it using
#248 [01:10] <icecube45> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/i386/ java -jar minecraft.jar
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#250 [01:10] <Scott> run this: sudo update-alternatives --config java
#251 [01:11] <Scott> it should give you 3 options. (0, 1, 2)
#252 [01:11] <Scott> I believe 1 will be openjdk 6
#253 [01:11] <icecube45> what should i do
#254 [01:11] <Scott> Just type the number for openjdk 6 and press enter
#255 [01:11] <icecube45> k
#256 [01:12] <icecube45> k now what
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#258 [01:12] <Scott> now go to the folder with minecraft.jar and right click and then click open with openjdk 6
#259 [01:13] <icecube45> blackscreen
#260 [01:13] <Scott> Open the file manager again
#261 [01:14] <Scott> press ctrl + h
#262 [01:14] <icecube45> done
#263 [01:14] <Scott> you should see a folder called .minecraft, rename it to .minecraft2
#264 [01:14] <icecube45> k
#265 [01:14] <Scott> then reopen the minecraft.jar like I said above
#266 [01:14] <icecube45> btw
#267 [01:14] <icecube45> have to go in like 30 mins
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#270 [01:15] <Scott> does it work now?
#271 [01:15] <Guest> me?
#272 [01:15] <Scott> you just joined, why would i ask that?
#273 [01:16] <Guest> Sorry
#274 [01:16] <icecube45> WHAT IS THIS I SEe?
#275 [01:16] <icecube45> THE MOJANG LOGO?
#276 [01:16] <Scott> Then it's working.
#277 [01:16] <icecube45> HOLY SHT THANK YOU SCOTT
#278 [01:16] <icecube45> THANK YOU SO MUCH
#279 [01:17] <Scott> It is loading or something. I have no clue what the purpose of that but it pops up the game after.
#280 [01:17] <icecube45> now ima see if techniclauncher works
#281 [01:17] <DiskDaemon> Yes, thanks Scott. It really does help to have someone around here who knows what they're doing with ubuntu
#282 [01:17] <Scott> I only help with Ubuntu and OS X :P
#283 [01:18] <icecube45> thank you so muhcs cott
#284 [01:18] <icecube45> scott
#285 [01:18] <Guest> whenever I open my minecraft an error message comes up saying cannot connect to minecraft.net try again or play offline
#286 [01:18] <Scott> Guest: What OS?
#287 [01:18] <Scott> You're welcome, icecube45.
#288 [01:18] <Guest> Windows
#289 [01:18] <icecube45> Scott
#290 [01:18] <icecube45> u play on servers much?
#291 [01:18] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Does the upper part of the launcher show anything strange?
#292 [01:18] <Scott> No. I don't play Minecraft.
#293 [01:18] <icecube45> 0_o
#294 [01:18] <Guest> Yes code commands
#295 [01:19] <icecube45> well thanks anyways
#296 [01:19] <DiskDaemon> That's going to be the IPv6 issue then, where Java 7 tried to talk with minecraft using IPv6, when minecraft.net only supports IPv4
#297 [01:19] <Scott> Are you sure, DiskDaemon?
#298 [01:19] <Guest> So what do i do?
#299 [01:19] <DiskDaemon> Scott: Seen it time and time again in here, yes.
#300 [01:19] <Scott> mkay then.
#301 [01:20] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Please press Win+r and type in "cmd" without the quotes for the command prompt, then type in "java -version"
#302 [01:21] <Guest> 1.7.0_05
#303 [01:21] <DiskDaemon> There is a batch file at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38939323/minecraft/minecraft-ipv4.bat that can resolve the issue, but first we need java to work from the command prompt, which it seems to to there nicely.
#304 [01:21] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Download that file and put it in the same folder where your minecraft.exe is located
#305 [01:21] <Guest> ok hold on
#306 [01:22] <Guest> minecraft.exe is in the roaming folder right
#307 [01:22] <DiskDaemon> What do you normally do to run the launcher?
#308 [01:22] <Guest> click the icon x]
#309 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> Is the icon the exe file itself or a shortcut?
#310 [01:23] <Guest> shortcut
#311 [01:23] <Guest> I search %appdata%
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#313 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> right-click on the shortcut and go to properties, then hit the "Open file location" button
#314 [01:23] <Guest> and the roaming folder with my .minecraft is on it
#315 [01:24] <Guest> there is no openfile location
#316 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> It is not a shortcut then. In the General tab, does it say "Minecraft.exe" for the description?
#317 [01:25] <Guest> lol yes...
#318 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> Then that file is the actual launcher.
#319 [01:25] <Guest> ok
#320 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> The place where that file is, is where you want to put the batch file too.
#321 [01:26] <Guest> drag and drop ontop if it?
#322 [01:26] <DiskDaemon> not on to it, but in the same folder
#323 [01:26] <Guest> the folder ins minecraft.exe?
#324 [01:27] <DiskDaemon> Yes, put the batch file in to the same folder that contains the minecraft launcher
#325 [01:27] <Guest> not the jar
#326 [01:27] <Guest> ?
#327 [01:27] <DiskDaemon> Correect. Put the batch file in to the same folder that contains the minecraft.exe file that launches minecraft
#328 [01:27] <DiskDaemon> You know where the minecraft.exe file is? Put the batch file in to that same location.
#329 [01:28] <Guest> Im sorry. I do NOT know where the minecraft.exe is
#330 [01:28] <Guest> I do NOT know the location of the folder
#331 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> It's the file that you saw "minecraft.exe" as the description before
#332 [01:29] <Guest> I right click minecraft and it says its an .exe in the properties tab
#333 [01:29] <DiskDaemon> In the same properties area, what does it say for "Location"
#334 [01:30] <Guest> its on my desktop
#335 [01:31] <DiskDaemon> Then that is where the batch file must go as well
#336 [01:31] <DiskDaemon> The batch file starts minecraft.exe with some special commands, so that it can work properly
#337 [01:31] <Guest> the batch file is on my desktop
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#339 [01:32] <DiskDaemon> well done
#340 [01:32] <Guest> May I ask another question? What about my .minecraft foleder with the minecraft.jar, can I put it in there?
#341 [01:32] <DiskDaemon> no, leave those where they are
#342 [01:33] <Guest> Its still not working
#343 [01:33] <Guest> I am missing something within the explanation
#344 [01:34] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Okay, let's try this another way. Shift-right-click on an empty spot of the desktop and open a command window there
#345 [01:34] <Guest> cmd window?
#346 [01:34] <DiskDaemon> yes
#347 [01:34] <Guest> doen
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#349 [01:34] <Guest> done
#350 [01:35] <DiskDaemon> The run this command: java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -jar minecraft.exe
#351 [01:36] <Guest> unable to access jar file
#352 [01:37] <DiskDaemon> Is the command window at the desktop?
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#354 [01:37] <darthhelmet700> hi i need help
#355 [01:37] <Guest> command prompt?
#356 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> darthhelmet700 - With?
#357 [01:37] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Shift-right-click on an empty spot of the desktop and open a command window there
#358 [01:37] <Guest> I have NO idea what to do right now
#359 [01:37] <darthhelmet700> with the .minecraft file
#360 [01:37] <GreyVulpine> darthhelmet700 - What about it?
#361 [01:37] <darthhelmet700> i accidentally deleted it
#362 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> darthhelmet700 - And what happens when you run the game again and log in?
#363 [01:38] <Guest> OH OK
#364 [01:38] <darthhelmet700> can i redownload it or redownload minecraft
#365 [01:38] <DiskDaemon> The command prompt should say "C:\Users\Name\Desktop>"
#366 [01:38] <Guest> hold on let me try again
#367 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> darthhelmet700 - Yes you can. Just launch minecraft again and log in with a premium account
#368 [01:38] <GreyVulpine> It'll redownload the files
#369 [01:38] <darthhelmet700> when i try to log in and try to update it can find the file
#370 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> What exactly does it say?
#371 [01:39] <darthhelmet700> cannot find the file
#372 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> What file?
#373 [01:39] <GreyVulpine> Could you give us the full error you get?
#374 [01:39] <Guest> IT WORKED
#375 [01:40] <Guest> THANK YOU SO MUCH
#376 [01:40] <Guest> One last question
#377 [01:40] * GreyVulpine gives DiskDaemon a cookie.
#377 [01:40] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Good one. Now close miencraft and run the batch file. That batch file runs the same command
#378 [01:41] <Guest> ok it works
#379 [01:41] * DiskDaemon puts cookie aside, being on a diet. It can be gifted to someone else shortly
#379 [01:41] <Guest> do i open mc from there now?
#380 [01:41] <DiskDaemon> Guest: That's why I want to check that the batch file works
#381 [01:41] <Guest> The batch file wworks
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#383 [01:42] <darthhelmet700_> hi
#384 [01:42] <DiskDaemon> Good one. That's what you use for the time-being
#385 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> Hello again
#386 [01:42] <Guest> ok thank you
#387 [01:42] <darthhelmet700_> i need help i don't have the .minecraft file
#388 [01:42] * DiskDaemon gives Guest a cookie
#388 [01:42] <Guest> Thanks a lot dude
#389 [01:42] <darthhelmet700_> when i open mine craft and try to play without connection it won't let me play
#390 [01:42] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#391 [01:43] <Guest> how do i sign up for the irc anyway?
#392 [01:43] <DiskDaemon> dinner for disky now :)
#393 [01:43] <darthhelmet700_> it says mine craft not downloaded
#394 [01:43] <Guest> I would love to learn these kinds of things and help
#395 [01:43] <darthhelmet700_> is anyone gonna help me
#396 [01:44] <darthhelmet700_> HEYY
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#398 [01:44] <darthhelmet700> where can i redownload minecraft
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#402 [01:49] <darthhelmet700> where can i redownload minecraft
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#409 [02:20] <darthhelmet700> i need help with my .minecraft folder
#410 [02:22] <darthhelmet700> dwdwdwwdsXVFEGRBHTBGRVDSAXasdfgdvhbjnytrtehrFGV
#411 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for an account?
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#414 [02:25] <Newts> yml file is messing up.
#415 [02:26] <Newts> can you tell me what is wronf on this file?
#416 [02:27] <Newts> ?
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#427 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> Would someone like to provide some input on the contents of an updated minecraft-ipv4.bat file? It checks if java is available from the command line before using it to run minecraft without IPv6, and if Java is not avialable it attempts to provide some useful advise on the situation. http://pastebin.com/mAVhMM9m
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#429 [03:54] <Wug> I just homebrew one whenever someone needs it
#430 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> Well, the minecraft-ipv4.bat file is stored at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38939323/minecraft/minecraft-ipv4.bat should anyone need it
#431 [03:55] <Wug> I tend to prefer shortcuts. theyre less ugly than bat files
#432 [03:55] <TheNeoublie> hello evryone, just wondering about the submission process for getting videos listed. I submitted one and it was listed as pending review. but now I check back and there isn't any there at all. and not info if it will be accepted or declined. can anyone sheed any light as to what I should expect?
#433 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> Yes, shortcuts work too. Can java parameters successfully be given to minecraft.exe as a shortcut?
#434 [03:56] <Wug> just make a shortcut to "java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar <theirdocuments>\minecraft.exe"
#435 [03:56] <Wug> it will probably expand java to its full path but who cares
#436 [03:56] <Wug> TheNeoublie: where do you mean
#437 [03:57] <TheNeoublie> under the videos section of the forum under lets plays
#438 [03:57] <DiskDaemon> Right, and when that doesn't work due to java.exe not being in system32, we can take them through how to properly install java in order to fix that
#439 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> When someone cannot download a batch file and place it in the same folder where their minecraft.exe file is, without involving 30 minutes of hand-holding throughout the process, would it be easier or more difficult to take them through creating an appropriate shortcut?
#440 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> The shortcut may indeed be easier
#441 [04:06] <Wug> DiskDaemon: or just use the full path
#442 [04:07] <Wug> I could write a script that peeks into the registry and gets the correct path to java, and writes a shortcut for it
#443 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> That could be done too, but it's a fragile solution that will break more easily than fixing the problem.
#444 [04:07] <Wug> until this point, I have been distributing a shortcut, I just homebrew one on whoever asks for one's computer
#445 [04:08] <Wug> its simple and it takes like 20 seconds
#446 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> There's already a script that peeks in to the registry by Eric Phelps, which I have used in elsewhere
#447 [04:08] <Wug> you could send it to me so I can modify it to suit the purpose
#448 [04:08] <Wug> or if its good enough then just send it anyway
#449 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> I'm planning on providing some wiki instructions so that people can attempt to do this themself without as much handholding
#450 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> http://www.ericphelps.com/batch/samples/JavaRuntime.cmd.txt
#451 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> I made use of it in this batch file, when troubleshooting for the Aether mod. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38939323/minecrafterrortest.bat
#452 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> I've just found out that Windows 7 searches the computer for java when you use it in the command line, putting in the best location for it automatically. Nice.
#453 [04:13] <Wug> windows does this with all programs
#454 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> As a part of a shortcut command, that is
#455 [04:13] <Wug> it searches in the path, the same way it does when you run from command line
#456 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Not, that I mean something else. I'll explain
#457 [04:13] <Wug> with the exception that it fills in the full path of the first match, which is probably what you meant
#458 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> What I mean is when Windows\system32\java.exe is renamed to javabackup.exe so that from the command line the computer pathing can no longer find java
#459 [04:15] <Wug> I dont even know why that would happen
#460 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> When the pathing is not able to find java, and from the command line you would otherwie get a file not found error, editing a shortcut with just "java" causes windows 7 to hunt out farther and wider than the normal pathing. In this case, it found it at "C:\Program Files (x86)\IBM\Rational AppScan\java" instead
#461 [04:15] <Wug> never seen it in the wild
#462 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> I had it here just a few hours ago. Their java install has no java at all in system32
#463 [04:15] <Wug> reinstall fixes that
#464 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> That can occur when Java is attempted to be installed without admistrator privaleges
#465 [04:16] <Wug> which afaik only happens on windows xp
#466 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> A normal reinstall didn't fix it. It has to be reinstalled from a downloaded manual install, running it as administrator for that to be fixes
#467 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> d
#468 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> At least, on that persons machine that's what had to be done.
#469 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> He may have been mying or mistaken when he said that he tried to reinstall without it fixing. We dunno.
#470 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> However, before the admin install java wouldn't work from his commandline, and afterwards it would
#471 [04:18] <Wug> thats fairly typical
#472 [04:18] <Wug> was he on xp
#473 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> I'm not sure now
#474 [04:19] <Wug> javas installer will attempt to elevate its privileges if its on vista/7 w/o admin rights
#475 [04:19] <Wug> theoretically, only on a limited xp account would it silently fail to add stuff to system folders
#476 [04:19] <SinZ> keyword being attempt
#477 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> Regardless of that though, using a shortcut to run the java command for minecraft will result in the computer using more than just its simple pathing to find java, which results in an easier way for us to get things going for them
#478 [04:20] <Wug> SinZ: if it fails it will abort afaik
#479 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> What I'm effectively saying is screw the batch file I was working on - I'm in with the shortcut team
#480 [04:21] <Wug> using the registry to simply look up the preferred environment and running from that would probably be bettwe
#481 [04:21] <Wug> we could use a program to generate the shortcut
#482 [04:21] <Wug> double click and its done
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#484 [04:22] <DiskDaemon> dammit, why can't Mojang just enable ipv6 for minecraft.net - that would resolve these issues
#485 [04:22] <Wug> DiskDaemon: its isps faults
#486 [04:23] <Wug> minecraft supports ipv6
#487 [04:24] <Sintrinsic> Mornin' guys. I've got a small website I'm working on, and am looking for a painless way to display a player's portrait in their profile section. Are there any services out there that offer isometric views of a player's skinned model, or something similar?
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#489 [04:25] <Wug> You can download a users skin from minecraft.net from their username
#490 [04:26] <Wug> I'm sure if you dug around a bit you could find a java applet that rendered the skin onto the model
#491 [04:26] <Wug> minecraft.net used to host one but stopped
#492 [04:26] <Wug> you might still be able to find it around somewhere
#493 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> Wug: Checking minecraft.net using http://www.mrp.net/cgi-bin/ipv6-status.cgi results in showing that no IPv6 exist for them yet
#494 [04:27] <Wug> minecraft.net does not have an ipv6 address, no. but minecraft can connect to ipv6 servers
#495 [04:27] <Sintrinsic> Yeah, I found a html5 canvas app that creates it just like I want it, but modifying it so that it displays inside my current page would take more time than I've got with my deadline.
#496 [04:28] <DiskDaemon> Indeed, so it's Mojang who need to updat their minecraft.net web site to support IPv6, for this problem to be properly solved
#497 [04:29] <Wug> Im pretty sure its just java being retarded
#498 [04:29] <Wug> lots of isps dont support ipv6 yet properly and have no ipv6 connectivity for clients
#499 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> I don't relish having people create shortcuts to force IPv4, because even though that's what works, we only get to see but a handful here of the people who have the same problem
#500 [04:29] <Wug> so having an aaaa record for minecraft.net wouldnt do anything to fix it
#501 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> It would fix it in more cases than doing nothing at all
#502 [04:31] <DiskDaemon> Currently forcing IPv4 is a temporary patch, until either the launcher can force it for itself, or until IPv6 is better supported
#503 [04:31] <Wug> the problem is limited only to isps with broken support
#504 [04:32] <Wug> on my computer which has used java 7 for ever, minecraft correctly ends up with the ipv4 address
#505 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> Not just isps. Even when isps fully support ipv6, minecraft.net currently still is incapable of replying sue to itself not supporting ipv6
#506 [04:32] <Wug> on isps that fully support it, minecraft will correctly fall back on the ipv4 record
#507 [04:33] <Wug> I assure you, the problem is caused exclusively by derped isps
#508 [04:33] <Wug> and until the internet becomes ipv6 only, adding an aaaa record wont make much difference
#509 [04:34] <Wug> cuz derpers gonna derp
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#511 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> We still want minecraft to fix the problem, preferably by having the launcher force ipv4, instead of us helping out 1% or less of people who currently have the problem
#512 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> mentaln note: get ipconfig details from people with the problem, so that patterns can emerge
#513 [04:46] <Wug> you wouldnt see anything in an ipconfig
#514 [04:47] <Wug> you would need to run an ipv6 connectivity test to see it
#515 [04:47] <Wug> chances are youd have too much noise from router settings for just an ipconfig
#516 [04:47] <Wug> I for example have an ipv6 address assigned by my router but no ipv6 internet connectivity
#517 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> Righto. Well at least we can help them with the issue, until Mojang can do something about it
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#519 [04:49] <Anonomouse> I'm going to ask whats probably asked really often lately. Any word on 1.3?
#520 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> nope, but 12w26a sneaked out yesterday
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#522 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions#Minecraft_1.3_Snapshots
#523 [04:50] <Anonomouse> I thought 12w26a has been out for awhile? O.o
#524 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> June 27, one day earlier than normal :)
#525 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> Year 12 (2012) week 26, first release (a) is what that means
#526 [04:51] <Anonomouse> Oo. I'm new to all the update stuff honnestly so sorry. lol
#527 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> Oh dear, the latest snapshot means that slabs no longer protect from mobs being spawned
#528 [04:54] <Anonomouse> just noticed that too v_v
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#530 [04:56] <Anonomouse> but based on the snapshots progression, any estimate on the release of 1.3?
#531 [04:58] <GreyVulpine> Your guess is as good as ours.
#532 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> Based on snapshot progression, potentially one week after the last snapshot is required
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#534 [05:05] <muhul> hey, i just found a bug in snapshot 12w26a,. where can i report it?
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#536 [05:05] <Wug> muhul: here will do
#537 [05:05] <Wug> whats your minecraft username
#538 [05:05] <muhul> muhul
#539 [05:05] <muhul> :P
#540 [05:06] <muhul> i got youtube link
#541 [05:06] <muhul> but still uploading
#542 [05:06] <muhul> http://youtu.be/jcdnzjzGK88
#543 [05:06] <RoyalGuard> i created an account to play on the technic mod pack, and i tried to log in today, but it still says that i need to purchase an account. what do i do?
#544 [05:06] <Wug> RoyalGuard: the download version of minecraft costs money
#545 [05:06] <Wug> if you want to play it, you would need to buy it
#546 [05:07] <RoyalGuard> oh ok
#547 [05:07] <Wug> consider also using mods from their original authors and not modpacks
#548 [05:07] <RoyalGuard> then what does the minecraft account do?
#549 [05:07] <Wug> they are often made without permission from the authors
#550 [05:07] <Necrodoom> wat
#551 [05:07] <Necrodoom> you kidding right
#552 [05:07] <Wug> you must purchase premium status for your account
#553 [05:07] <Wug> Necrodoom: ask in #risucraft about it
#554 [05:08] <muhul> royal, a minecraft account is needed to play the free in-browser version
#555 [05:08] <RoyalGuard> ok thank you very much
#556 [05:08] <Necrodoom> got spammed, pretty much
#557 [05:08] <Wug> for the same reason the yogbox was hated for a long while
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#559 [05:09] <RoyalGuard> that has helped me a lot, one last question, how much does it cost to get the full version
#560 [05:10] <Wug> its $20 euros
#561 [05:10] <Wug> which is like $28 or something
#562 [05:10] <Wug> not sure exactly how much
#563 [05:10] <RoyalGuard> is that per month?
#564 [05:10] <muhul> nope
#565 [05:10] <Wug> nope, one time
#566 [05:10] <muhul> perm
#567 [05:10] <Necrodoom> no, one time
#568 [05:10] <DiskDaemon> $25 USD currently
#569 [05:10] <DiskDaemon> according to a google search for "20 euros in USD"
#570 [05:11] <RoyalGuard> ok
#571 [05:12] <RoyalGuard> thanks that has helped a lot.
#572 [05:17] <muhul> wug you got a minecraft whit the 12w 26a snapshot? i think i can tell you how to get the bug.
#573 [05:20] <muhul> ?
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#601 [08:38] <NoobFromWiki> well that works
#602 [08:39] <DiskDaemon> I'm putting together the more common troubleshooting situations and solutions up at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting
#603 [08:41] <DiskDaemon> If someone finds that they get lost with the info there, and clicks on the "web access to #minecrafthelp" link, they default to NoobFromWiki. If they decide to not change that nickname and connect, they'll come through as that.
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#610 [08:51] <theveritable> How to change my username ?
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#614 [08:52] <zen> You cannot change your minecraft userneame at -
#615 [08:52] <zen> You cannot change your minecraft userneame at -
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#617 [08:53] <DiskDaemon> Mojang are working on that issue though. They're migrating user accounts from a username/password system to an email/password system, so that you can have different usernames associated with your account
#618 [08:54] <DiskDaemon> Currently though, the only way to have a different username is to buy a different user account
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#622 [08:59] <DiskDaemon> We now have an troubleshooting guide on the wiki, at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecrafthelp
#623 [08:59] <DiskDaemon> I plan to see this maintained and updated as time goes on
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#629 [09:18] <Kovlor> Hello, i have one problem. So, i have 20,25 euros on my paypal account, and i cant upgarde my account :( Help please
#630 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft costs $19.99 euros, last time I saw
#631 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> Correction - €19.95
#632 [09:20] <DiskDaemon> What seems to be the problem when you try to purchase a premium account?
#633 [09:21] <Kovlor> Hm... i dont know how Can i translate it because it's in other language
#634 [09:22] <Kovlor> when i put it in translator, there are "Return to the merchant's site and try a different form of payment PayPal Unfortunately, at this moment we can not process a payment through your PayPal account. Return to the merchant's site and try to use another form of payment (if available)."
#635 [09:22] <Kovlor> please, help
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#637 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> You may ahve to use a credit card to purchase it instead
#638 [09:23] <Kovlor> af..
#639 [09:23] <Kovlor> really i cant pay with paypal?
#640 [09:23] <Kovlor> i havent credit cart
#641 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> Does it say that you currently cannot pay with paypal?
#642 [09:24] <Kovlor> yes it is, but Mojang added Paypal to methods, so i want this method...
#643 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> You will have to contact paypal to find out why they aren't allowing you to use it for buying Minecraft
#644 [09:25] <clarjon1> Are you trying to buy a gift code?
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#646 [09:26] <Andrio> I'd guess that PayPal is having technical issues.
#647 [09:26] <Andrio> Can't be sure though.
#648 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> Or are you upgrading your account to a premium account instead
#649 [09:26] <Kovlor> there arent paypal method at buy giftcode
#650 [09:26] <Kovlor> i want upgrade it
#651 [09:27] <DiskDaemon> Mojang no longer allow paypal to purchase gift accounts. Upgrading to a premium account is normally allowed with paypal and/or credit cards though
#652 [09:29] <Kovlor> But I've heard that this problem is from May.
#653 [09:29] <DiskDaemon> This article from Mar 28 advises about the issue http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/434710-why-can-t-i-use-paypal-to-buy-a-gift-code-
#654 [09:30] <Kovlor> But I dont want buy gift code, i want upgarde my account
#655 [09:30] <Kovlor> I want do "Buy minecraft for this account"
#656 [09:31] <DiskDaemon> Normally paypal works to purchase your own premium account. If your paypal account isn't being allowed for some reason, it is paypal that you need to take this up with
#657 [09:31] <clarjon1> Kovlor: are you sure that you have enough in your account? I find that paypal works best if you have 5 dollars/pounds more than what you're going to purchase for a smooth paypal transition.
#658 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> Paypal have no additional costs when you are buying something
#659 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> But, it does no harm to have a little extra in your account too
#660 [09:32] <Kovlor> Saldo PayPal: €20,45 EUR - my cash on pp
#661 [09:33] <clarjon1> DiskDaemon: Paypal is sometimes derp about these things.
#662 [09:34] <DiskDaemon> Kovlor: Sorry, but we have no further help for you in regard to your issue.
#663 [09:34] <Kovlor> Okey, thanks ;(
#664 [09:34] <clarjon1> mhm.
#665 [09:34] <clarjon1> man, paypal is so full of derp.
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#667 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> clarjon1: Can I get your input on something?
#668 [09:35] <clarjon1> sure
#669 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> I plan for the troubleshooting part of the wiki to cover all of these categories and more http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Categories
#670 [09:36] <DiskDaemon> But for now, we have http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecrafthelp
#671 [09:36] <clarjon1> nice.
#672 [09:37] <DiskDaemon> Can I get you to run your eye over that troubleshooting page, and let me know of any improvements you might want to make to what's there?
#673 [09:38] <clarjon1> DiskDaemon: I'd work the CSS on the logs page so that the text doesn't leave the 'containers' it's supposed to be in.
#674 [09:39] <DiskDaemon> Good idea. Can you have a look at the troubleshooting info at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecrafthelp
#675 [09:41] <clarjon1> perhaps not having it be in <pre> tags, but a stylized tag that looks similar... and will do.
#676 [09:41] <clarjon1> Looking good so far :)
#677 [09:42] <DiskDaemon> That's using the wiki's existing default markup for code. I'll look and see if any templates exist that can help to improve the look there
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#679 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> For reference, this the markup (and result) of how all of the content on the wiki is marked up
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#681 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> It's nothing like wikipedia, but it gets the job done. Time to look for any templates that may be of use
#682 [09:43] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Help:Editing
#683 [09:43] <clarjon1> Gotta run, but
#684 [09:44] <clarjon1> last sentence of Problematic Frame
#685 [09:44] <clarjon1> change fall to falls
#686 [09:44] <clarjon1> "since it fall below Minecraft's minimum requirements" is current.
#687 [09:44] <clarjon1> ttyl!
#688 [09:44] <DiskDaemon> good one, post-haste one, done.
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#694 [10:21] <nickfrezh> Hello when i play minecraft my screen withh trun into a bunch of lines i have a screenshot
#695 [10:22] <nickfrezh> were can i show you my screen
#696 [10:22] <nickfrezh> screenshot*
#697 [10:22] <Andrio> imgur?
#698 [10:23] <Andrio> Try uploading your screenshot to http://imgur.com/
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#702 [10:43] <medion345> i have tried to download minecraft, but when i run the .exe and then try to logni, i get a message that it has not downloaded.
#703 [10:44] <DiskDaemon> Do you see any strange text in the upper part of the launcher?
#704 [10:44] <medion345> no
#705 [10:45] <DiskDaemon> It's likely then that an antivirus program is preventing the launcher from downloading files that it needs.
#706 [10:45] <medion345> i have disabled my anti virus to try it
#707 [10:45] <DiskDaemon> If that's the case, it's easily dealt with by emporarily disabling your antivirus program. yes.
#708 [10:46] <medion345> i have already tried it that way, it didnt work
#709 [10:47] <DiskDaemon> May we have the actual error message then, so that we can find other situations that match?
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#711 [10:48] <medion345> cant connect to minecraft.net (not downloaded)
#712 [10:48] <Andrio> Can you connect to minecraft.net with a browser?
#713 [10:49] <medion345> yes
#714 [10:49] <DiskDaemon> medion345: Let's perform a simple test. What happens when you visit this page? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
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#716 [10:50] <medion345> bad login
#717 [10:50] <DiskDaemon> Good, so your computer can see login.minecraft.net - now to work out why Java can't get there
#718 [10:52] <DiskDaemon> medion345: Can I ask you to open a command prompt in the folder that contains the minecraft launcher, and try something?
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#720 [10:53] <Cameronmark5> On my minecraft i cant play but about an estimated 5 seconds and it does it every 5 seconds can you please help me
#721 [10:53] <Cameronmark5> what it does is save level
#722 [10:53] <Andrio> Do you have mods in it?
#723 [10:54] <Cameronmark5> no
#724 [10:54] <medion345> ok
#725 [10:54] <Cameronmark5> i dont even no how to mod
#726 [10:54] <DiskDaemon> Cameronmark5: We may have to get you to provide us with an error log for when the trouble occurs
#727 [10:55] <Cameronmark5> um how would i do that?
#728 [10:55] <medion345> what did you need me to try in command prompt?
#729 [10:55] <DiskDaemon> Cameronmark5: The program from https://github.com/medsouz/MinecraftError/downloads is a good one for that
#730 [10:55] <Cameronmark5> ok i will look at it
#731 [10:56] <DiskDaemon> medion345: I'd like you to have your command prompt in the directory where your minecraft.exe launcher is stored
#732 [10:57] <Cameronmark5> ok there are multiple things on the screen how do i no which to pick?
#733 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> You can do that by opening the folder that contains the launcher, shift-right-click on the background of the window, and open a command window there
#734 [10:57] <medion345> i dont quite understand that
#735 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> medion345: Let's take this more slowly then. Do you click an icon to start Minecraft?
#736 [10:57] <medion345> yes
#737 [10:58] <DiskDaemon> Where is that icon?
#738 [10:58] <medion345> in my downloads file
#739 [10:58] <medion345> folder*
#740 [10:58] <DiskDaemon> Okay, go to your downloads area, shift-right-click on the background of it, and open a command window there
#741 [10:59] <medion345> done that
#742 [10:59] <DiskDaemon> Good one. Let's make sure you're in the right place
#743 [10:59] <DiskDaemon> Type in "dir minecraft.exe" and what do you get?
#744 [11:00] <Cameronmark5> Ok i got my file and it is up in winrar archiver where do i move the file, sorry if i butted in.
#745 [11:00] <DiskDaemon> Cameronmark5: Run the .jar file
#746 [11:01] <Cameronmark5> I am sorry i am confused i just got minecraft
#747 [11:01] <DiskDaemon> Cameronmark5: If your computer is set up to automatically open .jar files in winrar, download the MCErrorV30.exe file instead
#748 [11:01] <DiskDaemon> Cameronmark5: From https://github.com/medsouz/MinecraftError/downloads
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#751 [11:02] <mib_v9mn99> hi
#752 [11:02] <DiskDaemon> medion345: What do you see when you perform that directory command?
#753 [11:02] <medion345> 28/06/2010 15:53 278561 Minecraft.exe 1 file(s) 278561 bytes 0 Dir(s) 150,195,998,720 bytes free
#754 [11:02] <DiskDaemon> medion345: Good. Now do "java -version"
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#756 [11:03] <Cameronmark5> ok i clicked run what would i do from there
#757 [11:03] <mib_v9mn99> i can not play minecraft
#758 [11:03] <DiskDaemon> Cameronmark5: What do you see?
#759 [11:03] <DiskDaemon> mib_v9mn99: I cann't help you, it is 3am for me now. Someone may be able to though
#760 [11:04] <mib_v9mn99> ok
#761 [11:04] <Cameronmark5> launch minecraft paste error paste modloader.txt, and Re-analyze error
#762 [11:04] <DiskDaemon> Cameronmark5: Launch.
#763 [11:04] <Cameronmark5> k
#764 [11:05] <Cameronmark5> login?
#765 [11:05] <medion345> java version 1.7.0_4 java (tm) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b22) Java Hotspot (TM) 64bit server VM (build 23.0-b21, mixed mode)
#766 [11:05] <DiskDaemon> medion345: And lastly, let's use java to start minecraft, but with some additional options. "java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe"
#767 [11:05] <mib_v9mn99> an error occured while loading the applet pleas contact the support to ressolve this issue fatal error occured (7) that is standing if i will play minecraft
#768 [11:06] <mib_v9mn99> what must i do
#769 [11:07] <medion345> still didnt work
#770 [11:07] <DiskDaemon> medion345: Thank you for ruling out that as a possible issue.
#771 [11:08] <DiskDaemon> You can close the command prompt now.
#772 [11:08] <Cameronmark5> I think it worked! Thanks for all your Help!
#773 [11:08] <DiskDaemon> medion345: The only other reasons that I see for that particular error is when minecraft.net went down http://www.google.co.nz/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&safe=off&q=+site:minecraftforum.net+%22cant+connect+to+minecraft.net+(not+downloaded)%22&sa=X&ei=xm7sT7PAL8G1iQfOrJjRBQ&ved=0CFgQrQIwAA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=c0a71f853a7e4a00&biw=1440&bih=732
#774 [11:09] <medion345> that was last month, i was on it more recently than that
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#776 [11:09] <medion345> i removed .minecraft as i couldnt connect today
#777 [11:09] <DiskDaemon> That's the puzzle.
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#779 [11:10] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: I've got to head off to bed, but medion345 is having an "cant connect to minecraft.net (not downloaded)" issue. We seem to have ruled out the obvious such as login.minecraft.net, antivirus, and ipv6 issues
#780 [11:11] <mib_v9mn99> i can't play minecraft because of a error whit loading applet
#781 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: Oh, and hi o/ :)
#782 [11:11] <medion345> thanks for the help DiskDaemon
#783 [11:11] <Calinou> hi
#784 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> all the best there
#785 [11:11] <Calinou> medion345, try reinstalling java? you might also downgrade to java 6
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#787 [11:12] <asd123> hello?
#788 [11:12] <Cameronmark5> I have another question are mods bad for your minecraft?
#789 [11:12] <medion345> ok brb, to un install java i have to close firefox
#790 [11:12] <Calinou> hi asd123, don't ask to ask
#791 [11:12] <Calinou> medion345, make sure you install java 64 bit if you are on 64 bit OS
#792 [11:12] <asd123> i have a problem. i can not build dispensers.. what could be the reason :( i have v1.2.5 .. in creativ mode there are dispensers
#793 [11:13] <Calinou> asd123, only "undamaged" bows can be used.
#794 [11:13] <medion345> ok will do
#795 [11:13] <Calinou> enchantment of bow does not matter
#796 [11:13] <Calinou> ._.
#797 [11:13] <Calinou> inb4 he install 32 bit java 7
#798 [11:13] <Calinou> Cameronmark5, usually: no; try not to download mods from underground sites
#799 [11:13] <Calinou> minecraftforum is pretty much the only place to find safe mods
#800 [11:14] <Calinou> also: "popular" mods are /often/ safer than newly created mods
#801 [11:14] <mib_v9mn99> .
#802 [11:14] <asd123> hm i have a bow. there is not a bar on its side.. i think the bow is ok
#803 [11:14] <Calinou> mib_v9mn99, try using the downloaded client... are you playing the full game, or classic?
#804 [11:14] <Cameronmark5> I dont even no how to download mods i know how to download mods can you help?
#805 [11:14] <Calinou> asd123, http://minecraftwiki.net/Dispenser
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#808 [11:14] <mib_v9mn99> classic
#809 [11:14] <Cameronmark5> ugh lol i got mixed up sorry
#810 [11:15] <asd123> can anyone go to chat private with me? i want to get a dispenser.. :(
#811 [11:15] <Calinou> Cameronmark5, we do not help with mod support and installing. please see: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Installing_Mods
#812 [11:15] <Cameronmark5> i meant i DO know how to download maps
#813 [11:15] <Cameronmark5> ok i will check it out
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#815 [11:16] <asd123> hm nobody knows?
#816 [11:16] <Calinou> asd123, what I said, see the wiki page
#817 [11:16] <Calinou> you've done it wrong :P
#818 [11:16] <Necrodoom> asd123: what are you trying to do? craft a dispenser?
#819 [11:16] <Calinou> the server you're playing on if any, may also have a plugin to disallow dispenser crafting.
#820 [11:17] <mib_v9mn99> i play classic
#821 [11:17] <Calinou> mib_v9mn99, classic does not work with java 7, you have to downgrade to java 6.
#822 [11:17] <Calinou> make sure you install 64 bit java if you are on a 64 bit OS!
#823 [11:17] <Calinou> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#824 [11:18] <Calinou> Windows x86 Offline = 32 bit, Windows x64 = 64 bit
#825 [11:18] <Calinou> to check if your computer is 32 bit or 64 bit, go in the "computer" menu (Windows+E), right click an empty space in the window, click "Properties"
#826 [11:18] <Calinou> and see the "system type"
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#829 [11:23] <IronThunder77> Hi, my question is if there is any solution to my computer suddenly lagging. Got around 40-50 fps before on average, and now get 10. I have optifine, I am not using a high res texture.
#830 [11:24] <Calinou> IronThunder77, singleplayer or multiplayer? windows I presume?
#831 [11:25] <IronThunder77> Windows 7 and in both.
#832 [11:25] <IronThunder77> should I send specs?
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#834 [11:26] <Calinou> IronThunder77, yeah
#835 [11:26] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#836 [11:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#837 [11:26] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#838 [11:26] <Calinou> ^ this might help
#839 [11:26] <medion345> i have re installed 64 bit java now
#840 [11:26] <Calinou> medion345, okay, version 6? very important
#841 [11:26] <Calinou> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#842 [11:26] <Calinou> Windows x64 is 64 bit
#843 [11:26] <medion345> i didnt see version 6
#844 [11:26] <medion345> only version 7
#845 [11:27] <Calinou> ^ get it here then
#846 [11:27] <Calinou> uninstall java 7 first
#847 [11:28] <Calinou> IronThunder77, also, your computer might be swapping to disk, you can fix this by allocating *less* memory to minecraft.
#848 [11:28] <Calinou> do this using a .bat file
#849 [11:29] <medion345> ok, im installing now
#850 [11:29] <medion345> ok its installed version 6
#851 [11:31] <IronThunder77> http://pastebin.com/nEks1vqg Okay, and I'm a bit confused on using a .bat to allocate less memory to minecraft.
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#853 [11:31] <medion345> what do i do now i have re installed java?
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#855 [11:35] <medion345> Calinou?
#856 [11:35] <Calinou> medion345, try running minecraft? also use this launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#857 [11:35] <Calinou> it's the .jar launcher, it has been known to work better than the .exe one.
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#859 [11:36] <medion345> same error i started with
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#861 [11:38] <Calinou> medion345, using wireless? try using ethernet to connect to the ethernet instead
#862 [11:38] <medion345> i cant connect to ethernet
#863 [11:39] <Calinou> medion345, reason? no ethernet port on your computer?
#864 [11:39] <Calinou> if using a wireless adapter, try using another - realtek has been known to have issues with minecraft
#865 [11:39] <medion345> i have no ethernet cable, plus my modem is downstairs
#866 [11:40] <medion345> im using a cisco adaptor
#867 [11:41] <Calinou> hm... should be fine.
#868 [11:41] <Calinou> did you check windows's firewall, and possibly disable it?
#869 [11:41] <Calinou> (and your antivirus's, if any?)
#870 [11:41] <medion345> i disabled my firewall and avg
#871 [11:41] <Calinou> idea: try starting the game from command line.
#872 [11:41] <Calinou> using this file: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar - put it on the desktop
#873 [11:42] <Calinou> now, click an *empty* space on the desktop, hold Shift, then do a right click. click "Open command window here" there.
#874 [11:42] <Calinou> in the gray and black window that appears, type this:
#875 [11:42] <Calinou> java -jar -Xms1G -Xmx1G minecraft.jar
#876 [11:42] <Calinou> try logging in, and tell me the error.
#877 [11:42] <Calinou> (also, if you migrated to the new mojang account system: you have to log in with your email, not your user name)
#878 [11:42] <Andrio> java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar
#879 [11:42] <Calinou> Andrio, same thing.
#880 [11:42] <Calinou> argument order is irrelevant
#881 [11:43] <Andrio> You split the -jar and its parameter
#882 [11:43] <Calinou> explain, please?
#883 [11:43] <Calinou> the line I used works just fine for me, sorry, both windows & linux
#884 [11:43] <IronThunder77> Okay, graphics driver was out of date. Fixing that.
#885 [11:44] <Andrio> Wouldn't it try and load '-Xms1G' or does it recognise that that's meant to be a different switch?
#886 [11:44] <Calinou> it does work, -Xms1G being a parameter not a file
#887 [11:44] <Calinou> command line is not stupid
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#889 [11:45] <medion345> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.No.ClassDefFoundEroor : Xms1g
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#891 [11:45] <medion345> do you need all the causes?
#892 [11:45] <Calinou> G must be a capital G
#893 [11:46] <Calinou> also, don't forget the -
#894 [11:46] <medion345> i did it as you typed it
#895 [11:46] <Calinou> java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar
#896 [11:46] <Calinou> try this instead...
#897 [11:46] <Calinou> java being an asshat. -_-
#898 [11:47] <medion345> unable to access jarfile minecraft.jar
#899 [11:47] <medion345> oh typo
#900 [11:47] <medion345> tsorry
#901 [11:48] <Calinou> so, does it work, medion345?
#902 [11:48] <Calinou> you have to put the file on the desktop first
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#904 [11:49] <medion345> oh i need to move it to desktop then
#905 [11:50] <medion345> it wont let me put it on the desktop
#906 [11:51] <Calinou> reason? if it tells you to replace files, do so
#907 [11:51] <medion345> i moved it to the desktop now, it was because i still had the client open
#908 [11:52] <medion345> so i need to type that command again?
#909 [11:53] <Calinou> yes
#910 [11:53] <Calinou> java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar
#911 [11:54] <medion345> it opens the client, but the command window gives java.io.FileNotFound
#912 [11:55] <medion345> then theres a list of what i think are errors, but i not sure
#913 [11:55] <medion345> it also launches the client
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#915 [11:57] <medion345> oh, i just seen that my computer date is wrong...
#916 [11:57] <medion345> would that cause this?
#917 [11:57] <Calinou> yes
#918 [11:57] <medion345> it works :D
#919 [11:57] <Calinou> :D
#920 [11:58] <Calinou> well you found out by yourself... sorry
#921 [11:58] <medion345> thanks for the help
#922 [11:58] <IronThunder77> Updated graphics. So, you said I should lower the memory allocated to minecraft with a .bat, could you assist me with that?
#923 [11:58] <IronThunder77> Sorry to barrage you.
#924 [11:58] <Calinou> IronThunder77, if you have a limited amount of RAM, yes, it definitely helps. ;)
#925 [11:58] <Calinou> okay, listen:
#926 [11:58] <IronThunder77> Well, I have 4 gigs, I'd imagine that's enough.
#927 [11:59] <Calinou> 1) press the Windows+R key combination, type in "control folders" without quotes
#928 [11:59] <Calinou> go to the second tab there, and uncheck the checkbox: "Hide known extension types"
#929 [12:00] <Calinou> then, download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
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#931 [12:00] <Calinou> put it on desktop
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#933 [12:00] <Calinou> 2) create a new text file on the desktop
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#935 [12:01] <Calinou> inside this text file write:
#936 [12:01] <Calinou> java -Xms768M -Xmx768M -jar minecraft.jar
#937 [12:01] <Calinou> save it. rename it "start.bat" instead of "start.txt" (change the extension)
#938 [12:01] <Calinou> 3) double-click and enjoy
#939 [12:02] <IronThunder77> did all that, I got a weird checkbox option in control folders. closest was hide extensions for known file types.
#940 [12:03] <IronThunder77> uncheck that one?
#941 [12:03] <Andrio> Yes
#942 [12:03] <IronThunder77> thanks.
#943 [12:03] <Calinou> yep
#944 [12:06] <IronThunder77> Wow, that worked very well. Thank you!
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#946 [12:09] <Calinou> IronThunder77, no problem
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#959 [12:38] <Mro> any one here?
#960 [12:39] <Andrio> I'm here
#961 [12:39] <Mro> ok, i need some help with portforward
#962 [12:39] <Mro> ive done all the bits corectly, the server wont send a signal
#963 [12:39] <Andrio> ah... I probably can't help with that; sorry.
#964 [12:39] <Mro> is calinou here?
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#966 [12:40] <lutzee> !check 92.7.226.51
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#968 [12:41] <Calinou> yes, Mro?
#969 [12:41] <Mro> trolltrust me lutzee i have portforwarded correctly
#970 [12:41] <Calinou> why did you highlight me? :P
#971 [12:41] <Mro> tah
#972 [12:41] <Mro> any ideas of solving the problems with portfoward?
#973 [12:41] <Calinou> 25565 in TCP > the port you should forward
#974 [12:41] <Mro> done both
#975 [12:41] <Calinou> also, leave the server-ip field blank in server.properties
#976 [12:41] <Mro> tcp/udp nothing
#977 [12:41] <Calinou> also, to connect to your server: use 127.0.0.1
#978 [12:41] <Mro> yep done that bit
#979 [12:42] <Calinou> other people have to use your external IP, see: http://youripis.org
#980 [12:42] <Mro> and other people still cant join
#981 [12:42] <Mro> im on teamviewer at the moment helping a friend
#982 [12:42] <Mro> his router is the same as mine
#983 [12:42] <Mro> except i type in his external i.p it doesnt work
#984 [12:43] <Mro> even with :25565 at the end, it still doesnt like connecting
#985 [12:46] <Calinou> are you using wireless? try using ethernet instead
#986 [12:46] <Calinou> also disable windows firewall, it is pretty much uneeded, almost all routers have firewalls
#987 [12:46] <Mro> Hes gone for a bit im his friend
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#990 [12:52] <NyanNeko> My profile picture recently started showing up in really crappy quality on the fourum site, Why is that?
#991 [12:52] <Calinou> this isn't related to the forum
#992 [12:52] <Calinou> see #minecraftforums
#993 [12:52] <Calinou> erm I mean, this isn't forum support
#994 [12:52] <Calinou> #minecraftforums is forum support. ;)
#995 [12:52] <lutzee> the channel you were in before :)
#996 [12:52] <Calinou> also: try clearing your cache. Ctrl+F5
#997 [12:53] <Mro> so disable the router firewall or compouter firewall?
#998 [12:54] <Trickster> Computer.
#999 [12:56] <Mro> theyre both off and still cant connect to his server.
#1000 [12:57] <Trickster> Wait, who's connecting to who?
#1001 [12:58] <Mro> im using teamviewer on my friends computer
#1002 [12:58] <Trickster> You're trying to connect to his server?
#1003 [12:58] <Mro> i have setup his ports and disabled firewall router and computer side
#1004 [12:58] <lutzee> what is his IP?
#1005 [12:58] <Mro> and i cannot connect to his server outside of teamviewer
#1006 [12:58] <Trickster> Heh, disabling all his firewalls isn't a good idea,but hey.
#1007 [12:58] <Mro> 92.7.226.51
#1008 [12:59] <Mro> windows firewall was disabled anyway
#1009 [12:59] <lutzee> that is your IP correct? or are you connected to this from his PC?
#1010 [12:59] <Trickster> Which is pretty normal because routers do the work.
#1011 [12:59] <Trickster> Can't ping that IP.
#1012 [12:59] <Mro> thats his i.p address
#1013 [13:00] <lutzee> Mro then you are connected to IRC on his computer?
#1014 [13:00] <lutzee> via teamviewer
#1015 [13:00] <Mro> !check 92.7.226.51
#1016 [13:00] <Mro> yeah
#1017 [13:03] <Mro> any ideas?
#1018 [13:07] <Trickster> Can you get any direct response out of it?
#1019 [13:08] <Trickster> Teamviewer and the like don't count because they use a third party to negotiate the connection.
#1020 [13:10] * PaladinPete is away: Away
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#1024 [13:41] <Marc_IRL> Dunno if you guys already know this, but for people who can't download with AVG, here's AVG's article on disabling the components blocking it: http://www.avg.com/ca-en/faq.num-4498#tba5
#1025 [13:42] <Marc_IRL> When I've seen people in here assist people, they're just told to disable the link scanner. Hopefully that article helps a bit more.
#1026 [13:42] <Marc_IRL> Also, AVG may or may not work on whitelisting Minecraft. I don't have high hopes for it, though.
#1027 [13:42] <ShaRose> so mojang already contacted AVG about it?
#1028 [13:42] <Marc_IRL> No, I just mentioned them on Twitter yesterday
#1029 [13:43] <Marc_IRL> And they tweeted me back
#1030 [13:43] <ShaRose> ah
#1031 [13:43] <langkid1> !check home.langkid1.me
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#1033 [13:47] <thabigo360> I'm getting hs_err_pid3300 every time I try and launch minecraft
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#1036 [13:59] <xxValiumxx> Is anyone in here also a mod on #minecraft?
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#1038 [14:00] <lutzee> why?
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#1040 [14:01] <xxValiumxx> Because I haven't been in the chat for several months, and it would appear that my nick is banned. I'd just like to inquire as to why. I certainly can't remember doing anything to get banned.
#1041 [14:02] <lutzee> You need to be registered with nickserv
#1042 [14:02] <lutzee> It will say you are banned if you aren't/havent identified
#1043 [14:02] <lutzee> It will say you are banned if you aren't/havent identified
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#1045 [14:03] <puffrfish> xxValiumxx: it's because there is a ban on xx*xx in that channel
#1046 [14:03] <xxValiumxx> oh thats right... and this is the server with the really short expiry.
#1047 [14:03] <xxValiumxx> puffrfish: really? thats strange
#1048 [14:03] <Marc_IRL> LOL, that's awesome
#1049 [14:03] <lutzee> thats odd haha, but yeah xx*xx is funny
#1050 [14:04] <xxxxxxxMARC_IRL_YEAHxxxxxxx> I have the best username now
#1051 [14:04] <lutzee> omg marc, break my client then xD
#1052 [14:05] <lutzee> long nicks are never appreciated ;)
#1053 [14:05] <ShaRose> xxxxxxxMARC_IRL_YEAHxxxxxxx but you aren't IN #Minecraft
#1054 [14:05] <ShaRose> :V
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#1056 [14:05] <Valium> well, thats sorted then. I take it there was a problem with folks using the excessive 'x' at some point.
#1057 [14:06] <lutzee> no just xx*xx nicks are quite annoying
#1058 [14:06] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxMarcxxx> No problems with that
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#1060 [14:06] <Valium> lutzee: hmm, I suppose so, I only started using it because several sites have "Valium" taken already.
#1061 [14:07] <lutzee> I just add ee's to the end of mine :p
#1062 [14:07] <lutzee> mind you i like shortening it too
#1063 [14:07] <Valium> I use Valium when possible, I have troble remembering which IRC servers have which nick sometimes.
#1064 [14:08] <zen> a lot of people try an connect with this nic hehe
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#1066 [14:11] <Calinou> Valium, protip: Valium_
#1067 [14:12] <Calinou> not available? Valium_
#1068 [14:12] <Calinou> __*
#1069 [14:12] <Calinou> :P
#1070 [14:12] <Valium> Calinou: and you've just reminded me of what I WAS using.
#1071 [14:12] <Valium> thanks.
#1072 [14:12] <Calinou> no problem
#1073 [14:12] <Valium> +1 redstone to you
#1074 [14:12] <Valium> (all out of internets)
#1075 [14:12] <Calinou> :( diamonds
#1076 [14:13] <Valium> well, I would have done diamond, but my site is called poweredbyredstone, so...yeah, I lost the connection there.
#1077 [14:13] <Valium> no idea where I was going.
#1078 [14:14] <Valium> +1 diamond then
#1079 [14:14] <Calinou> :D
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#1082 [14:16] <Marc_IRL> Anyone know about a fatal error (4) permission denied connect error? Maybe while downloading?
#1083 [14:16] <Marc_IRL> Or logging in. I dunno. I'm not getting specifics.
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#1085 [14:17] <lut> seen a few people here occasionally, can't remember if we helped people fix it though
#1086 [14:18] <lut> er let me grep my logs and find one
#1087 [14:18] <Calinou> lut, linux much? :D
#1088 [14:18] <Calinou> inb4 harsh linux
#1089 [14:18] <lut> haha i thought you knew? :p
#1090 [14:18] <Calinou> Marc_IRL, this happens with java 7 sometimes, or non-working graphic card drivers
#1091 [14:19] <Calinou> lut, yes, are you using harsh linux? >:(
#1092 [14:19] <robster> game keeps freezing ?
#1093 [14:19] <lut> for now, when i actually get a decent PC i'll probably get mint
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#1095 [14:20] <monkadunk> how do i increase my minecraft speed?
#1096 [14:20] <Calinou> monkadunk, get a better computer, or reduce the quality in video options
#1097 [14:20] <Calinou> lut, mint sucks, you better use debian. arch sucks too :P
#1098 [14:20] <lut> sigh opinions :p
#1099 [14:20] <spriteman121> I cant get on my account. I think it got hacked
#1100 [14:21] <spriteman121> can someone help
#1101 [14:21] <Calinou> spriteman121, did you migrate?
#1102 [14:21] <monkadunk> i dont want to get a new computer and i already have decreased the video options
#1103 [14:21] <Calinou> check the credentials... maybe you put the wrong password.
#1104 [14:21] <Calinou> monkadunk, well you have to - integrated and old graphic cards don't work well with minecraft
#1105 [14:21] <spriteman121> I know my password. I go on everyday
#1106 [14:21] <Calinou> minecraft is resource-intensive
#1107 [14:21] <Marc_IRL> Calinou: Well that's not super helpful :p
#1108 [14:21] <Calinou> spriteman121, http://help.mojang.com > maybe here?
#1109 [14:22] <robster> can anyone help, game keeps freezing and i have to come right out and start again
#1110 [14:22] <monkadunk> i got my computer NEW this christman
#1111 [14:22] <Calinou> (email them)
#1112 [14:22] <monkadunk> *christmas
#1113 [14:22] <Calinou> monkadunk, you got a shitty new computer then :P
#1114 [14:22] <spriteman121> ill try that
#1115 [14:22] <Valium> monkadunk: what kind of video and cpu do you have?
#1116 [14:22] <Calinou> next time, have a recent dedicated GPU
#1117 [14:22] <monkadunk> i have no idea
#1118 [14:22] <Calinou> inb4 integrated
#1119 [14:22] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#1120 [14:22] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1121 [14:22] <monkadunk> how do i find out
#1122 [14:22] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1123 [14:22] <Calinou> monkadunk, ^
#1124 [14:23] <spriteman121> Well i clicked forgot password and its say it sent my an email but it didn't so i clicked forgot user and i typed in my email and it says email not on records.
#1125 [14:23] <lut> hmm Marc_IRL , all i found was one point were someone blamed java7 , thats about it
#1126 [14:24] <lut> spriteman121, you must have typed your email wrong when you purchased
#1127 [14:24] <lut> er Marc_IRL you can help here ;) ^
#1128 [14:24] <spriteman121> well if i did then how did my password get changed?
#1129 [14:25] <spriteman121> Am i still talking to people?
#1130 [14:25] <lut> spriteman121, have you ever received any emails from mojang?
#1131 [14:26] <monkadunk> http://pastebin.com/FxdZ33D5
#1132 [14:26] <spriteman121> yes i recieved the one that said you have resitered your account so that means its the right email
#1133 [14:26] <Calinou> " Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family"
#1134 [14:26] <Calinou> sums it up monkadunk
#1135 [14:26] <Calinou> you need a dedicated video card to enjoy minecraft
#1136 [14:26] <Calinou> I presume it's a laptop?
#1137 [14:26] <monkadunk> yeah?
#1138 [14:26] <Calinou> if it's a desktop, you can change the graphics card
#1139 [14:26] <Calinou> but... you can't, on laptops
#1140 [14:27] <Marc_IRL> The "I think I got hacked" article is here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1141 [14:27] <Calinou> so, until you get a new computer you're pretty much out of luck
#1142 [14:27] <monkadunk> so theres nothing i can do about it?
#1143 [14:27] <Calinou> not really
#1144 [14:27] <monkadunk> would upgrading my RAM help?
#1145 [14:27] <Calinou> tip: multiplayer is a bit better, performance-wise
#1146 [14:27] <Calinou> NO
#1147 [14:27] <Calinou> the graphics card is the culprit
#1148 [14:27] <monkadunk> meh
#1149 [14:27] <monkadunk> alright well thanks
#1150 [14:27] <Calinou> WTF dude
#1151 [14:27] <Calinou> you have a i7 and an integrated GPU?
#1152 [14:27] <monkadunk> yes?
#1153 [14:28] <Calinou> ._.
#1154 [14:28] <Eddie> so do I
#1155 [14:28] <Eddie> HD 4000
#1156 [14:28] <monkadunk> what does that have to do with anything
#1157 [14:28] <Calinou> next time, don't buy a business computer. -_-
#1158 [14:28] <monkadunk> darn okay
#1159 [14:28] <Valium> oh my god. monkadunk I feel bad for you man. I really do.
#1160 [14:28] <spriteman121> so is there anyway that someone from mojang could view my account to see whos been on it?
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#1162 [14:28] <Marc_IRL> no
#1163 [14:29] <spriteman121> so how do i get back on it
#1164 [14:29] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1165 [14:29] <Valium> that sucks. having a quadcore i7/HT and you cant play anything on it....
#1166 [14:30] <lut> I7 second gen, the graphics on that wern't that great
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#1168 [14:30] <spriteman121> i clicked that link and checked my email and password and this poped up. Last Updated: Liquid error: undefined method `in_time_zone' for nil:NilClass. What does that mean?
#1169 [14:32] <spriteman121> oh my god i do not like hackers
#1170 [14:32] <Valium> spriteman121: me either
#1171 [14:33] <Valium> was your password one that would be considered strong?
#1172 [14:33] <spriteman121> yaa now i cant get on my account
#1173 [14:33] <spriteman121> i dont rememebr
#1174 [14:33] <Valium> are you using the right email?
#1175 [14:33] <spriteman121> * remember
#1176 [14:33] <spriteman121> yes
#1177 [14:33] <Valium> including case sensitivity?
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#1179 [14:34] <spriteman121> it is the right email so i clicked forgot password and it never sent my an email
#1180 [14:34] <Valium> I've noticed that if the email isnt in the system, it will say it sent one, but it wont
#1181 [14:35] <Valium> so keep that in mind
#1182 [14:35] <spriteman121> yaa
#1183 [14:35] <Marc_IRL> No, it'll send the email. It'll just bounce off of an invalid address.
#1184 [14:35] <Marc_IRL> It'll send to marc@gmailz.con, but the mail service will return it
#1185 [14:35] <spriteman121> so will i got the email or not because its been 12 hours and i haven't got it yet
#1186 [14:36] <Marc_IRL> Did you send an email to customer support?
#1187 [14:36] <spriteman121> not yet
#1188 [14:36] <Valium> Marc_IRL: what I mean, is that if you don't actually have an account associated with your email, the minecraft forgot pass thing will say it sent you something, but nothing will show it.
#1189 [14:36] <Marc_IRL> I don't know what to tell you then
#1190 [14:36] <spriteman121> oh
#1191 [14:36] <Valium> I had this issue with a friend who couldnt remember which of her 7 emails she used
#1192 [14:37] <Marc_IRL> Valium: How can you not have an account associated with an email address?
#1193 [14:37] <Marc_IRL> spriteman121: You need to send an email to customer support. Then, PM me the email address that you used, and I'll check it.
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#1195 [14:37] <spriteman121> well i know the email i used my minecraft account with becuase it sent my an email saying you have resitered to minecraft
#1196 [14:38] <icecube45> Hello, tis me again, im back with some trouble on ubuntu my friends
#1197 [14:38] <Valium> Marc_IRL: a minecraft...oh nvm. Not important.
#1198 [14:38] <spriteman121> so how do i send an email to customer support?
#1199 [14:38] <icecube45> and sorry if i ryme i dont know why it just happens
#1200 [14:38] <Valium> icecube45: whats the issue?
#1201 [14:38] <icecube45> well
#1202 [14:38] <Marc_IRL> spriteman121: That link that I sent twice? You'll need to read through it :-)
#1203 [14:38] <icecube45> upon Scott's help i got minecraft on ubuntu running
#1204 [14:38] <icecube45> but
#1205 [14:38] <icecube45> i noticed somthing
#1206 [14:39] <icecube45> the textures are all screwed up
#1207 [14:39] <spriteman121> so is there anyway that someone from mojang could view my account to see whos been on it?
#1208 [14:39] <icecube45> invisible 1 chests, double chests have no top, creepers only have the bottem 2 legs, and those look wierd
#1209 [14:39] <Marc_IRL> ...
#1210 [14:39] <icecube45> zombies are invisible
#1211 [14:39] <icecube45> and skeletens have no legs
#1212 [14:39] <Marc_IRL> spriteman121: No
#1213 [14:39] <Valium> icecube45: are you running a different texture pack then the original?
#1214 [14:39] <icecube45> and my skin in the inventory is the texture.png
#1215 [14:39] <icecube45> no im not
#1216 [14:40] <icecube45> fresh clean vanilla
#1217 [14:40] <Valium> how odd.. running sun java?
#1218 [14:40] <spriteman121> whats the transaction Id?
#1219 [14:40] <icecube45> openjdk 6
#1220 [14:40] <icecube45> they wont let u get suns java 6
#1221 [14:40] <icecube45> it automatically isntalls 7
#1222 [14:41] <icecube45> it makes mining quite hard
#1223 [14:41] <Marc_IRL> spriteman121: See how transaction ID on that article is a hyperlink? Click it.
#1224 [14:41] <icecube45> creepers are only 2 legs, invisible zombies, flying skeletons
#1225 [14:41] <Valium> icecube45: whats wrong with 7?
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#1227 [14:41] <icecube45> 7 wont run minecraft on ubuntu
#1228 [14:41] <spriteman121> yes
#1229 [14:41] <Scott> Valium: openjdk7 doesn't work with Minecraft.
#1230 [14:41] <Scott> openjdk6 works just fine.
#1231 [14:41] <icecube45> hey scott
#1232 [14:42] <icecube45> thanks again for yesterday
#1233 [14:42] <Valium> Scott: + icecube45 I was referring to sun java7.
#1234 [14:42] <Scott> It seems that icecube45 is probably having an issue with graphcs
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#1236 [14:42] <Valium> but yeah, sounds gfx related.
#1237 [14:42] <icecube45> what should i do, if anything
#1238 [14:42] <icecube45> or do i have to live with invisible zombies
#1239 [14:43] <Marc_IRL> No one should have to live with invisible zombies :-(
#1240 [14:43] <Scott> Oracle Java 7 is actually OpenJDK.
#1241 [14:43] <Valium> Scott: really? huh, I'd not heard about that. Interesting.
#1242 [14:44] <icecube45> creepers are so much scaryer now
#1243 [14:44] <Scott> Anywho, I think icecube45's problem is actually his graphics.
#1244 [14:44] <icecube45> they just are 2 legs, with the texture.png wrapped around them
#1245 [14:44] <icecube45> they sneak up on you
#1246 [14:44] <Scott> I don't think you can even get Minecraft to run if he were running Windows.
#1247 [14:44] <icecube45> scott
#1248 [14:44] <icecube45> thats not true
#1249 [14:44] <icecube45> before installing ubuntu, i was running windows 7
#1250 [14:44] <Scott> your graphics card is super old.
#1251 [14:44] <icecube45> it ran perfectly
#1252 [14:44] <Valium> what card?
#1253 [14:44] <icecube45> its a newish laptop
#1254 [14:45] <Scott> Unless you have the wrong drivers installed.
#1255 [14:45] <Scott> It's older intel graphics
#1256 [14:45] <Scott> so not really a card.
#1257 [14:45] <Valium> oh, no card...IGP
#1258 [14:45] <icecube45> Intel® 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
#1259 [14:45] <Valium> oh hell, that def, shouldn't run it.
#1260 [14:46] <icecube45> wierd
#1261 [14:46] <icecube45> it ran fine with windows 7
#1262 [14:46] <icecube45> unless ubuntu is sensing a wrong card or something
#1263 [14:46] <Valium> it wouldnt be the first time.
#1264 [14:46] <icecube45> if this helps anything
#1265 [14:46] <icecube45> i am using a dell mini
#1266 [14:46] <Scott> lol
#1267 [14:47] <Valium> netbook
#1268 [14:47] <icecube45> yup
#1269 [14:47] <Scott> And you expect it to run Minecraft?
#1270 [14:47] <Valium> != laptop
#1271 [14:47] <icecube45> it did
#1272 [14:47] <icecube45> it ran it fine
#1273 [14:47] <icecube45> on windows 7
#1274 [14:47] <icecube45> anything i can do to try and fix it?
#1275 [14:47] <Valium> well, I have java7 downloaded from oracle on here, running ubuntu, with that exact Graphics chipset.
#1276 [14:48] <Valium> lemme see if it runs.
#1277 [14:48] <icecube45> okay
#1278 [14:48] <icecube45> i could possibly try a different texture pack
#1279 [14:49] <icecube45> i am quite fond of sphax with industrial craft support
#1280 [14:49] <icecube45> and buildcraft
#1281 [14:52] <icecube45> anything?
#1282 [14:53] <Valium> well, I certainly wouldnt call it playable
#1283 [14:53] <Valium> @3fps
#1284 [14:53] <icecube45> i get around 20
#1285 [14:53] <Valium> all graphics turned down
#1286 [14:53] <Valium> BUT it does run, and the graphics are fine
#1287 [14:53] <icecube45> normal rendering, all other graphics down
#1288 [14:54] <icecube45> normal fog i mean
#1289 [14:54] <icecube45> view distance
#1290 [14:54] <icecube45> what ever
#1291 [14:54] <Valium> on short
#1292 [14:54] <Valium> distance didnt seem to matter
#1293 [14:54] <icecube45> well
#1294 [14:54] <icecube45> anything i can try?
#1295 [14:54] <icecube45> im going to try using a texturepack
#1296 [14:54] <icecube45> may work
#1297 [14:54] <icecube45> you never know
#1298 [14:54] <Valium> mkae sure you have the correct video drivers
#1299 [14:55] <icecube45> i checked the additional drivers
#1300 [14:55] <icecube45> nothing i needed to install
#1301 [14:55] <Valium> check that, that was with openJDK
#1302 [14:55] <Valium> 6
#1303 [14:55] <icecube45> see? :3
#1304 [14:56] <Valium> I forgot that I did the java thing on my server, not the netbook.
#1305 [14:56] <Valium> soo....yeah, there ya go
#1306 [14:56] <icecube45> ya
#1307 [14:56] <icecube45> well
#1308 [14:56] <Valium> maybe your download was corrupt
#1309 [14:56] <lutzee> icecube45, do you have mods loaded? and if so do they included optifine and portal gun?
#1310 [14:56] <icecube45> optifine
#1311 [14:56] <icecube45> thats all
#1312 [14:56] <Valium> icecube45: you said it was vanilla
#1313 [14:56] <icecube45> but this happens on vanilla
#1314 [14:56] <icecube45> i have 2 different
#1315 [14:56] <icecube45> i have technicpack and the normal
#1316 [14:57] <icecube45> vanilla with technicpack comes with optifine
#1317 [14:57] <lutzee> optifine does some derpy stuff, with optifine and portalgun you get those errors, i know i've had it
#1318 [14:57] <icecube45> it happens on both
#1319 [14:57] <icecube45> the vanilla it happens on
#1320 [14:57] <icecube45> and i dont have portal gun
#1321 [14:57] <icecube45> i stopped using it when they dropped multiplayer
#1322 [14:58] <icecube45> ill try a texture pack
#1323 [14:58] <icecube45> as soon as this loads
#1324 [14:58] <Valium> well, the intel GMA954 doesnt support the leel of OpenGL that minecraft requires, so the fact that it runs at all is suprising
#1325 [14:58] <Valium> level*
#1326 [14:58] <icecube45> thats wierd
#1327 [14:59] <icecube45> i know for a fact my other laptop doesnt have the level required, so i dont get colors in chat
#1328 [14:59] <icecube45> but this one works fine
#1329 [15:00] <Valium> I mean, I have 2x 9500GTs in SLI on my quadcore q6700 and still, I only get 45fps
#1330 [15:00] <icecube45> with a texturepack
#1331 [15:00] <icecube45> somethings are working now
#1332 [15:01] <icecube45> like my skin
#1333 [15:01] <icecube45> chests showed up for a bit
#1334 [15:01] <icecube45> then dissapeared
#1335 [15:01] <icecube45> they are invsible
#1336 [15:01] <icecube45> now
#1337 [15:01] <icecube45> ill check on mobs
#1338 [15:02] <Marc_IRL> Valium: Wow.
#1339 [15:02] <Marc_IRL> I have one graphics card, also quad core processor, and I get 300-400 fps
#1340 [15:02] <icecube45> creepers now have a bit of there body showing
#1341 [15:02] <icecube45> but still the same error
#1342 [15:02] * langkid1 presses ALL the buttons!
#1342 [15:03] <spriteman121> bye
#1343 [15:03] <spriteman121> bye
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#1345 [15:03] <Marc_IRL> You know, I would have helped him had he followed any of my directions...
#1346 [15:03] <lutzee> marc, what cpu and graphics card though?
#1347 [15:03] <Marc_IRL> I asked him to email and then PM me
#1348 [15:04] <icecube45> with my graphics card on ubunut, google is getting me a lot of ubuntu forum threads
#1349 [15:05] <Valium> Marc_IRL: what gpu do you have?
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#1353 [15:06] <Marc_IRL> Can't remember, it's my other computer... I'll check
#1354 [15:06] <lutzee> sigh i can't wait to get this tbf pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/b0lg
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#1356 [15:06] <lutzee> http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/b0lg derpy link
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#1358 [15:07] <icecube45> ill just play on my other computer
#1359 [15:08] <icecube45> thanks anyways
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#1361 [15:09] <Scott> Building computers is overrated, lutzee!
#1362 [15:09] <Marc_IRL> Oh, found it
#1363 [15:09] <Scott> Just head to the Apple store and be happppppy.
#1364 [15:09] <Scott> Though your wallet won't be happppppy.
#1365 [15:09] <Marc_IRL> Intel Core i7-3930K (Six Core, 12MB Cache) Overclocked up to 3.9Ghz
#1366 [15:09] <Marc_IRL> 16GB Quad Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz
#1367 [15:10] <lutzee> yes mark because we an all afford a 3rd gen I7
#1368 [15:10] <lutzee> marc*
#1369 [15:10] <Marc_IRL> 1.25GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
#1370 [15:10] <Marc_IRL> I dunno that much about computer specs >.>
#1371 [15:10] <Marc_IRL> I just ordered the pretty and fast one :D
#1372 [15:10] <Marc_IRL> Okay, I know a -little- about it. But I'm not a hardware buff.
#1373 [15:11] <lutzee> okay, marc, get a gtx 690, and i'll be seriously jealous
#1374 [15:11] <Valium> from what I'm seeing, having SLI in minecraft actually makes your FPS worse
#1375 [15:11] <Scott> My fiancé just built his computer not too long ago.
#1376 [15:11] <Marc_IRL> wonder what I have in this computer...
#1377 [15:11] <Scott> He got an i7-3770S
#1378 [15:11] <lutzee> disable sli>happy
#1379 [15:12] <lutzee> apparently the i5 3570k is just as good as that
#1380 [15:13] <Scott> The S models are low power
#1381 [15:13] <Scott> His machine is eco-friendly ;p
#1382 [15:14] <lutzee> power isn't an issue for me..
#1383 [15:14] <Calinou> <Marc_IRL> 1.25GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
#1384 [15:14] <Calinou> I have better
#1385 [15:14] <lutzee> i mean i have a dual 400w server sitting in my garage, you think i care? :p
#1386 [15:14] <Scott> It is for the environment. D:
#1387 [15:14] <Calinou> 570GTX
#1388 [15:14] <Scott> That's not very nice!
#1389 [15:14] <Calinou> <Scott> It is for the environment. D:
#1390 [15:14] * Calinou has a i7-2600K
#1390 [15:15] <Calinou> take that, earth
#1391 [15:15] <Calinou> Marc_IRL, OCing is bad mkay?
#1392 [15:15] <Scott> I got a...
#1393 [15:15] <Calinou> Marc_IRL was kicked for being a OC assclown.
#1394 [15:15] <Scott> System Information: Model: MacBook Pro (15-inch 2011) • CPU: Intel Core i7-2635QM (8 Cores) @ 2.00 GHz • L2: 262.14 KB • L3: 6.29 MB • Memory: 8.00 GB • Uptime: 1 Month • Disk Space: Total: 498.93 GB; Free: 415.46 GB • Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6490M • Screen Resolution: 1440 x 900 • Load: 15% • OS: Mac OS X 10.7.4 (Build 11E53) (64-bit kernel)
#1395 [15:15] <Calinou> </urbanterror>
#1396 [15:15] * Valium has a 2x dual-core xeon server sitting next to him.
#1396 [15:15] <Scott> i7-2635QM
#1397 [15:15] <Marc_IRL> It came by default, I didn't do it
#1398 [15:15] <Calinou> lolmac
#1399 [15:15] <Calinou> ah ok
#1400 [15:15] <Calinou> lolAMD
#1401 [15:15] <Marc_IRL> Although, if it gets hot, my fans go all transformer and turn upwards :D
#1402 [15:16] <Marc_IRL> Which is pretty much never
#1403 [15:16] <Valium> I like that uptime Scott . Ever think about shutting down?
#1404 [15:16] <Scott> Apple is back in Nvidia's pants now.
#1405 [15:16] <Scott> Why bother?
#1406 [15:16] <Scott> MacBook-Pro:~ sdollins$ uptime
#1407 [15:16] <Scott> 14:16 up 48 days, 15:59, 2 users, load averages: 1.16 1.35 1.42
#1408 [15:16] <lutzee> yes well atm i'm stuck with an athlon !! p320M 2.1GHz, 8GB ram, and amd 4200 internal graphics...
#1409 [15:16] <Valium> dunno, maybe to uhh..... take it with you?
#1410 [15:16] <lutzee> feel lucky guys
#1411 [15:17] <Scott> I do take it with me o.o
#1412 [15:17] <Scott> There is no need to turn it off.
#1413 [15:17] <Scott> I shut it and it goes to sleeeeeeeep.
#1414 [15:17] <Calinou> sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
#1415 [15:17] <Eddie> !kick VoxelHead
#1416 [15:18] <lutzee> my windows experiance index is 3.6 because of the graphics ._.
#1417 [15:18] <Calinou> sleeping sucks anyway... shutdown FTW; especially on linux, where it is often glitchy. lol, windows experience index
#1418 [15:18] <Valium> oh, Sleep mode... should not be counted towards uptime.
#1419 [15:18] <Calinou> Scott, big uptime is bad mkay?
#1420 [15:18] <Scott> then you really wouldn't like this...
#1421 [15:18] <Calinou> Scott was kicked for being a uptime assclown.
#1422 [15:18] <Calinou> </urbanterror> again
#1423 [15:18] <Scott> 15:18:40 up 371 days, 18:57, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.14
#1424 [15:18] <Calinou> lol
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#1426 [15:20] <Valium> oh crap, driver install forcing restart, I'll be back.
#1427 [15:22] <alen37> I CANT TELL IF i purchased mincraft or not I ENTERED THE CARD INFO
#1428 [15:22] <Calinou> alen37, huh? try logging in...
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#1430 [15:23] <alen37> WILL TRY AGAIN, JUST DONT WANT TO BE BILLED IF IT DOES NOT WORK
#1431 [15:23] <Calinou> don't write in all-caps
#1432 [15:23] <alen37> ok
#1433 [15:24] <Boreeas> CALINOU: BUT IT'S INTERNATIONAL CAPSLOCK DAY
#1434 [15:24] <Valium> Calinou: its international CAPS LOCK day, and I wish I were making that up
#1435 [15:24] <Calinou> Boreeas, lol
#1436 [15:24] <Calinou> cisoun made that joke too
#1437 [15:24] <Calinou> is it true?
#1438 [15:24] <Boreeas> It's not a joke
#1439 [15:24] <Valium> its not a joke
#1440 [15:24] <Boreeas> http://capslockday.com
#1441 [15:24] <Calinou> lol
#1442 [15:25] <Valium> in honor of billy mays
#1443 [15:25] <alen37> SEE
#1444 [15:26] <lutzee> turns out i have better graphics in my old dell optiplex that i use for IRC than is in my laptop..
#1445 [15:26] <Valium> lol
#1446 [15:26] <Valium> laptops
#1447 [15:26] <Valium> ALWAYS
#1448 [15:26] <Valium> have bad graphics
#1449 [15:26] <lutzee> i put an amd 4550 in it, my laptop has 4200
#1450 [15:26] <Valium> but dont feel bad, my server has 4mb of vram
#1451 [15:27] <lutzee> 4mb? mine has 8 :D
#1452 [15:27] <lutzee> but yes server, designed for CLI
#1453 [15:27] <Valium> I did have a graphic card in it (for CUDA and PhysX)
#1454 [15:27] <Valium> but the system kept looking at the temps on it, and would freak out.
#1455 [15:27] <lutzee> I honestly want to get minecraft running on the PC now
#1456 [15:28] <Valium> do eet
#1457 [15:28] <lutzee> mind you i don't think an old P4 will like it much
#1458 [15:28] <Valium> P4 handles it fine
#1459 [15:28] <Valium> My Toshiba "Gaming" Laptop does
#1460 [15:29] <Valium> P4/HT@33.2GHz, 1.5GB Ram, radeon 9100
#1461 [15:29] <lutzee> okay let me strip out whatever java i installed and try again
#1462 [15:30] <lutzee> as soon as i get my new PC chances are this is going into storage
#1463 [15:30] <lutzee> along side all the other pc's that have ever entered my house
#1464 [15:30] <Valium> you know, I have so many computers here that are perfectly good that I do not use.
#1465 [15:30] <Valium> including the netbook I HAD TO HAVE
#1466 [15:31] <Valium> and my laptop
#1467 [15:31] <Valium> and my mac.
#1468 [15:31] <Valium> well, thats not 100% true
#1469 [15:31] <Valium> I use the mac as a footstool.
#1470 [15:31] <Valium> something to rest my feet on for long minecraft sessions
#1471 [15:32] <Valium> thats not a rip on mac, thats just truth
#1472 [15:32] <Valium> I still pull it out when I feel the need to have a grageband session.
#1473 [15:32] <lutzee> the oldest PC in my house has a nice win95 sticker on it :p
#1474 [15:33] <Valium> the oldest in my house...takes 5.25" floppies. C64, whattap?
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#1476 [15:33] <lutzee> but the difference is, you you buy a PC with win95 printed on it, or C64 printed on it? :p
#1477 [15:34] <Valium> not sure what youre asking there
#1478 [15:34] <lutzee> I'm saying, i want a C64 lol
#1479 [15:34] <Valium> get one, they are fun
#1480 [15:34] <Valium> and theres quite a few accessories for it, new ones.
#1481 [15:34] <Valium> NIC cards
#1482 [15:35] <Valium> harddrive upgrades
#1483 [15:35] <Valium> SD reades
#1484 [15:35] <Valium> USB cards
#1485 [15:35] <lutzee> need the money for my new PC before i delve into old tech
#1486 [15:36] <Valium> okay, here we go, new drivers, testing FPS with SLI disabled.
#1487 [15:37] <Valium> 1920x1080 fullscreen
#1488 [15:38] <Valium> roughly 60fps avg
#1489 [15:40] <Valium> now WITH sli
#1490 [15:41] <Valium> same.
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#1493 [15:44] <bkogamer1992> i have gotton banned from a server nd this wasn't my fault. some guy was ripping my stuff apart and i was fixing it they said i was grieving
#1494 [15:45] <Valium> that sucks
#1495 [15:46] <bkogamer1992> y
#1496 [15:48] <Valium> why?
#1497 [15:48] <bkogamer1992> y i know it sucks
#1498 [15:48] <bkogamer1992> no
#1499 [15:48] <bkogamer1992> not why?
#1500 [15:48] <bkogamer1992> not why?
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#1502 [15:49] <bkogamer1992> so what are we waiting for
#1503 [15:49] <Valium> I dont know. Did you have a problem/question?
#1504 [15:49] <bkogamer1992> yeah its up top 15:44
#1505 [15:50] <Valium> the problem is, you got banned?
#1506 [15:50] <Marc_IRL> If you were banned from a server, you need to talk to the person who runs the server
#1507 [15:50] <Marc_IRL> All Minecraft servers are private servers
#1508 [15:50] <bkogamer1992> and how do i talk to the owner of that server
#1509 [15:51] <lutzee> gah, damn ubuntu.. not finding the natives
#1510 [15:51] <Marc_IRL> No idea
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#1512 [15:51] <lutzee> bkogamer1992, find the servers minecraft forum thread? where did you find the info about the server?
#1513 [15:52] <TayGlutz> i bought minecraft, but it still says i haven't bought it. when i have in fact bought it. and i have no idea what to do.
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#1515 [15:54] <creepyfrench> Umm i play minecraft for a while now and for some odd reason it said that my account has been migrated and i try to get the forget password button on but the email never sends....help
#1516 [15:54] <Marc_IRL> TayGlutz: Do you have a transaction ID? See this article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380
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#1518 [15:55] <Marc_IRL> TayGlutz: And I don't mean the Mojang UUID/Order number. If you do, PM it to me and I'll take a look.
#1519 [15:55] <TayGlutz> no, my dad went to his email and he said it doesn't say anything and a transaction ID.
#1520 [15:56] <Herkkusuu> My minecraft crashes when i open my texture pack folder
#1521 [15:56] <Marc_IRL> creepyfrench: If you didn't migrate your account, someone else did, so it would no longer be set to your email. see this article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1522 [15:56] <Marc_IRL> TayGlutz: Have you verified that the card or account has actually been charged? I don't mean an email, I mean checking the balance.
#1523 [15:57] <TayGlutz> yeah, that's what my dad told me.
#1524 [15:58] <TayGlutz> he said it charged him. so i told him to look at his email for that ID and there was nothing
#1525 [15:58] <Herkkusuu> My minecraft crashes when i open my texture pack folder (help)
#1526 [15:59] <creepyfrench> Marc i did send my email to them and they say they are sending info on how to reset the password but the thing is they never send the email!
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#1528 [16:00] <lutzee> Valium, its better than my laptop omg
#1529 [16:00] <Marc_IRL> TayGlutz: You would need to send an email to Mojang support with the transaction ID. Without the transaction ID, the purchase cannot be viewed. You can get the transaction ID by contacting Moneybookers.
#1530 [16:01] <creepyfrench> how do i contact moneybookers?
#1531 [16:01] <Marc_IRL> www.moneybookers.com
#1532 [16:01] <Marc_IRL> creepyfrench: Well yes. If someone else migrated your account, and changed the email address, then you wouldn't be able to get emails anymore. Read this article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1533 [16:02] <Marc_IRL> creepyfrench: Did you send an email?
#1534 [16:02] <creepyfrench> I got an username email but not a password one
#1535 [16:02] <Marc_IRL> Did you send an email, not did you get an email
#1536 [16:03] <TayGlutz> do i use the email that was used when i bought minecraft?
#1537 [16:03] <creepyfrench> i am sending one to mojang now
#1538 [16:03] <Marc_IRL> You can use any email that you can be contacted at
#1539 [16:03] <Marc_IRL> You need to include the transaction ID in order to be helped, though
#1540 [16:07] <creepyfrench> How do i do that?
#1541 [16:07] <Herkkusuu> vittu teijän kaa
#1542 [16:08] <creepyfrench> Marc how do i contact Moneybookers?
#1543 [16:08] <TayGlutz> i just made an account of moneybrookers, i assume i should do that in order to contact them?
#1544 [16:09] <Marc_IRL> TayGlutz: I don't think you need an account with them in order to contact them
#1545 [16:09] <TayGlutz> D:<
#1546 [16:10] <TayGlutz> well i don't even know what i'm supposed to say? i need a transaction ID. i don't think it's that simple
#1547 [16:10] <Marc_IRL> I made a purchase on this date, from this email, can I get my transaction ID?
#1548 [16:10] <TayGlutz> lol kay.
#1549 [16:10] <Marc_IRL> They might ask for more info, but I have people forward emails to me from Moneybookers all of the time, saying "here's your transaction ID" :-)
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#1551 [16:11] <creepyfrench> us-service@moneybookers.com is this their email?
#1552 [16:16] <TayGlutz> alright, i really hope it helps. i've been wanted minecraft forever.
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#1559 [16:41] <HELLBOY0401> am I "live"?
#1560 [16:42] <HELLBOY0401> I want to ask a question about skins
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#1562 [16:42] <langkid1> ?? ask > HELLBOY0401
#1563 [16:42] <langkid1> ?? ask lemon-rev
#1564 [16:42] <langkid1> er
#1565 [16:42] <langkid1> ?? ask
#1566 [16:42] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1567 [16:42] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1568 [16:43] <HELLBOY0401> I have purchased the game, play it on my XBox, want to change my skins online
#1569 [16:43] <HELLBOY0401> says I still need to buy game
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#1571 [16:43] <Valium> Isnt the xb360 edition seperate?
#1572 [16:43] <langkid1> HELLBOY0401, you want to change you skin for the xbox edition?
#1573 [16:44] <HELLBOY0401> yes
#1574 [16:44] <langkid1> I don't think you can do that yet
#1575 [16:44] <langkid1> That's only available on the normal version.
#1576 [16:44] <HELLBOY0401> have been reading online, looks I might be able to since I've created an account onine
#1577 [16:45] <angry> hi can someone answer a question for me
#1578 [16:45] <HELLBOY0401> when i play in my realm, i am the tennis guy, and am tennis in other's games, can't i change this, how can I stop being the tennis guy
#1579 [16:45] <HELLBOY0401> how did I get the tennis guy as my default anyway
#1580 [16:46] <Valium> angry: just ask
#1581 [16:46] <langkid1> HELLBOY0401, "tennis"?
#1582 [16:46] <HELLBOY0401> from what i read, my character is "character 2" tennis Steve? All white outfit
#1583 [16:47] <angry> i have bought minecraft online and i have minecraft1.2.5 but i cant trade with villagers how come and can they fix it
#1584 [16:47] <langkid1> HELLBOY0401, hmm, I'm sure someone else has an answer, just keep waiting :)
#1585 [16:47] <Valium> I dont think thts implemented yet
#1586 [16:47] <langkid1> angry, trading is only in snapshots
#1587 [16:47] <langkid1> Trading is coming in the 1.3 update.
#1588 [16:47] <angry> snapshots?
#1589 [16:47] <langkid1> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Snapshots
#1590 [16:48] <HELLBOY0401> is there a way on the xbox, not on the computer, that I can change - like going to my profile?
#1591 [16:48] <angry> when will update come out and how come its already on wikki
#1592 [16:48] <HELLBOY0401> "langkid1" are you still there?
#1593 [16:49] <langkid1> Yes
#1594 [16:49] <langkid1> But I don't know the answer for that question
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#1596 [16:49] <HELLBOY0401> is the link you sent at 14:47 "for" me?
#1597 [16:49] <CALINOU> angry, snapshots ARE released, for testing purposes only
#1598 [16:49] <CALINOU> no HELLBOY0401
#1599 [16:49] <langkid1> angry, dates are NOT DEFINITE but it is rumored that 1.3 will be released in the next week or two
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#1601 [16:50] <angry> will it automatticly update my game
#1602 [16:50] <langkid1> When the update comes out you will be prompted on launch to update
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#1604 [16:51] <Marc_IRL> I hope it comes out in the next week or two. I'm too lazy to install snapshots.
#1605 [16:51] <HELLBOY0401> ok......does ANYONE know if I can change my default skin of "Tennis Steve" on my XBox, and does anyone know how the defaults are set upon purchase of game
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#1607 [16:52] <Marc_IRL> You can't change the skin, we don't know what sets the default, and I -think- skin changing is coming in a later update, but you'd have to ask the developers, 4J Studios
#1608 [16:52] <Marc_IRL> https://twitter.com/4JStudios/
#1609 [16:53] <HELLBOY0401> ok, thanks Marc
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#1611 [16:53] <langkid1> Marc_IRL, may I reccommend the mod, "AnyCraft"? It allows you to have multiple "installs" by changing the appdata parameter for Minecraft. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/302629-launcher-anycraft-71-updated/
#1612 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> Still too lazy :p
#1613 [16:54] <Marc_IRL> Installing mods is more complex than replacing my jar file
#1614 [16:54] <langkid1> Oh look at THAT he made a launcher!
#1615 [16:54] <CALINOU> <is in mojang>
#1616 [16:54] <CALINOU> <uses mods>
#1617 [16:54] <CALINOU> MEME!
#1618 [16:54] <langkid1> Marc_IRL, it's not a mod, it is a tool that changes where Minecraft thinks %APPDATA% is
#1619 [16:55] <langkid1> After that Minecraft runs normally, just with a modified appdata param
#1620 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> I'm fine with official updates being installed automatically, lol. I don't play -all- the time.
#1621 [16:56] <langkid1> Marc_IRL, heh, anycraft is what allows my Minecraft directory to grow to over 1-2GB
#1622 [16:56] <langkid1> All those "installs"
#1623 [16:56] <lutzee> this is why i use or well now used to use multimc, but turns out my older desktop runs minecraft better than my laptop.. sigh
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#1625 [17:01] <Boreeas> I stopped using mods after 1.8
#1626 [17:01] <Boreeas> Coincidentally, I also stopped playing Minecraft regularly after 1.8 :P
#1627 [17:01] <lutzee> lol
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#1632 [17:19] <CALINOU> Boreeas, lol, vanilla MC sucks
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#1634 [17:21] <Cannondale12> Will minecraft come to play station 3
#1635 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> Not any time in the near future, if at all
#1636 [17:26] <CALINOU> lol, no
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#1638 [17:31] <Boreeas> CALINOU: Vanilla MC was fine for me for about a year before I got bored
#1639 [17:31] <Boreeas> Minecraft so far was the game that kept me entertained the longest
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#1641 [17:32] <XxMinecraftTribexX> hey? Would anyone be into making a simple but detailed Meerkat Skin? Male and female version?
#1642 [17:32] <XxMinecraftTribexX> please?
#1643 [17:34] <XxMinecraftTribexX> http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/meerkat/
#1644 [17:34] <XxMinecraftTribexX> this is what a meerkat looks like.
#1645 [17:34] <Marc_IRL> XxMinecraftTribexX: This is a Minecraft help channel. If you need someone to make something for you, you might want to try the Minecraft Forums
#1646 [17:35] <Boreeas> Alternatively, #minecraft may also be a channel to request such a thing
#1647 [17:36] <Boreeas> Then again, it's #minecraft we are talking about here
#1648 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> Most of the time, they don't talk about Minecraft there :p
#1649 [17:36] <CALINOU> XxMinecraftTribexX, 10.10
#1650 [17:36] <CALINOU> (you said meerkat)
#1651 [17:36] <XxMinecraftTribexX> i cant FREAKING GO THERE BECAUSE IM BANNED FOR NO FREAKING REASON.
#1652 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR USERNAME
#1653 [17:36] <XxMinecraftTribexX> T_T
#1654 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> XXXXMARC_IRLXXXXX
#1655 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> That's what I'm gonna call myself :D
#1656 [17:37] <XxMinecraftTribexX> -.-
#1657 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> I believe they have a filter for that kind of username
#1658 [17:37] <XxMinecraftTribexX> i hate all of you. your no help AT ALL
#1659 [17:37] <XxMinecraftTribexX> i hate all of you. your no help AT ALL
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#1661 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> Hey, I was being serious, he needed to change his username.
#1662 [17:38] <lutzee> He's like that marc don't worry, usually see him in #smp being all mardy
#1663 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> And when I'm presented with caps, I meet them with caps.
#1664 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> ALSO, BILLY MAYS HERE FOR INTERNATIONAL CAPS DAY
#1665 [17:38] <Boreeas> You know, this is the guy who came into #smp to advertise a furry RP server
#1666 [17:39] <lutzee> either way, #mctextures would be the best channel for skins ;D
#1667 [17:39] <ShaRose> LOL
#1668 [17:39] <Marc_IRL> OOOOH, what's the IP?
#1669 [17:39] <Boreeas> He didn't tell us :<
#1670 [17:39] <Marc_IRL> Damn. That could have been fun some day.
#1671 [17:39] <lutzee> probably hosting on his own net
#1672 [17:39] <Marc_IRL> Tweet at my peoples to dress up as pandas and then play in that server :D
#1673 [17:39] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL wanna join my world server then :V
#1674 [17:39] <lutzee> !check 204.111.243.39
#1675 [17:40] <lutzee> meh
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#1680 [18:02] <Sophia> Has anybody seen this issue before? (http://content.screencast.com/users/CaptMagpie/folders/Jing/media/0b14f6fc-2cd9-45af-a3cc-b5314e5db8e3/2012-06-28_2300.png)
#1681 [18:03] <Morrolan> Security software, most likely.
#1682 [18:03] <Sophia> I need to launch minecraft using this .bat file, or it gives me errors along the lines of "java invalid argument : connect"
#1683 [18:03] <Morrolan> Oh, wait, with the .bat it works?
#1684 [18:03] <Morrolan> Are you using Java7?
#1685 [18:03] <Sophia> I've tried disabling ipv6 and the firewall entirely before, and reinstalling java...
#1686 [18:03] <Sophia> maybe it has multiple versions, i'll give it a look >.>;
#1687 [18:03] <lutzee> Sophia, yes that is java7's fault
#1688 [18:04] <Morrolan> Since Java7 defaults to IPv6, and that conflicts with minecraft.net.
#1689 [18:04] <lutzee> as it defaults to IPv6
#1690 [18:04] <Sophia> ah, any way to change it ?
#1691 [18:04] <lutzee> what that bat files does it forces it to use IPv4
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#1693 [18:04] <lutzee> you can add that to the runtime parameters if you like
#1694 [18:04] <Morrolan> Maybe there's a setting for Java somewhere, but the easiest way is to just change it for this program only, like the .bat does.
#1695 [18:04] <Sophia> Aye, the problem with using just this .bat is that I cant use custom clients though..
#1696 [18:04] <Morrolan> lutzee - I believe Wug once mentioned that those didn't seem to affect it, but maybe that was about some different parameter.
#1697 [18:05] <lutzee> it should be fine, its what DiskDaemon says to do
#1698 [18:05] <Morrolan> Sophia - Just adjust the .bat's content, replace the "-jar minecraft.exe" with "-jar my_custom_launcher_super_cool.jar/.exe" etc
#1699 [18:05] <Sophia> hmm, i'll give it a try
#1700 [18:06] <Sophia> if theres a way to force java7 to use ipv4 with anything it's used with, just stopping its attempts at using ipv6, that'd be appreciated too ^^
#1701 [18:06] <lutzee> Sophia, start > control panel > programs>java> the java tab>view
#1702 [18:06] <Morrolan> Theoretically it'd be, like lutzee suggested, to add it to its default runtime parameters, somewhere in the control panel -> Java tab.
#1703 [18:07] <Morrolan> However most applications shouldn't have trouble with IPv6, so it'd be a more proper solution to just use a custom script for those who do have issues with it.
#1704 [18:07] <Sophia> okay
#1705 [18:08] <lutzee> under where is has the java list, the column runtime parameters add "-Djava.net.preferIPv4stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6stack=false" without quotes
#1706 [18:08] <Valium> I need help
#1707 [18:08] <lutzee> sup Valium ? :P
#1708 [18:09] <Valium> as in; "Help, noone wants to play with me QQ"
#1709 [18:09] <Morrolan> Try a shower. :)
#1710 [18:09] <Valium> Citizens mods may sound fun, but it just reinforces the truth; "Forever alone"
#1711 [18:10] <Valium> I no dub it the Forever Alone mod.
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#1713 [18:10] <Valium> s/no/now
#1714 [18:10] <Cobra_Fett> when i click on a texture pack, it just goes to default
#1715 [18:10] <Cobra_Fett> it only goes to the pack on certain one
#1716 [18:10] <Cobra_Fett> s
#1717 [18:11] <Valium> packs out of date maybe?
#1718 [18:11] <Sophia> check the folder (texturepacks in .minecraft) , maybe they dont exist or dont have all the files needed, so it reverts to a compatible one ?
#1719 [18:11] <Cobra_Fett> no i have one out of date one and it works fine when i select it
#1720 [18:11] <Cobra_Fett> ok
#1721 [18:12] <Sophia> there could be a readme in the folder for the pack that might say if it has incompatibilities with any mods you have, or any known errors perhaps ?
#1722 [18:12] <Cobra_Fett> o i know why i forgot to patch it
#1723 [18:12] <lutzee> well if the texturepack doesn't include a terrain.png it will use default
#1724 [18:12] <Valium> lol
#1725 [18:12] <Cobra_Fett> ya im stupid
#1726 [18:12] <Valium> and there we go
#1727 [18:13] <Sophia> n.n
#1728 [18:13] <Valium> referring to not patching, not you being stupid
#1729 [18:13] <Cobra_Fett> lol
#1730 [18:14] <lutzee> Sophia, did you get that working?
#1731 [18:14] <Cobra_Fett> dang
#1732 [18:14] <Cobra_Fett> it still wont work
#1733 [18:15] <Cobra_Fett> would it be because its a 1.3 texture pack?
#1734 [18:15] <Sophia> lutzee : trying to edit the .bat, i'll say if I run into another dead end ^^
#1735 [18:15] <lutzee> okay, it will only work for launchers that use java btw
#1736 [18:16] <Sophia> ok
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#1738 [18:17] <Morrolan> Launchers which don't use Java won't be affected by this behaviour of Java anyway. :)
#1739 [18:17] <Sophia> yeah :P
#1740 [18:17] <lutzee> Exactly :D
#1741 [18:17] <Cobra_Fett> is there a way to see what servers a minecraft user has been on
#1742 [18:17] <Morrolan> Nah.
#1743 [18:17] <Sophia> id say thats java :P http://screencast.com/t/MvKzyV3ql
#1744 [18:18] <lutzee> Cobra_Fett, no, as servers are hosted privately
#1745 [18:18] <Morrolan> Well, if those servers are using MCBans or similar then theoretically yes, Cobra_Fett.
#1746 [18:18] <Cobra_Fett> k
#1747 [18:18] <Morrolan> Since those plugins report back where a player has been. So if you had access to their DBs you could tell.
#1748 [18:18] <Morrolan> But apart from that you're sol. :)
#1749 [18:18] <lutzee> Sophia, what launcher?
#1750 [18:18] <Sophia> mech craft, from irc.stormbit.net 's #stormbitgames
#1751 [18:19] <lutzee> mm, never heard of it :p
#1752 [18:19] <Sophia> its probably specially made for that irc server :o
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#1754 [18:19] <lutzee> haha probably
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#1758 [18:25] <Sophia> this should have worked, but it doesnt even launch the application, and launching it manually after using the .bat gives the same errors :s http://screencast.com/t/Q25HxBxt
#1759 [18:26] <lutzee> Sophia, chances are it isn't java then :p
#1760 [18:26] <lutzee> try and log in with it
#1761 [18:26] <lutzee> normally
#1762 [18:28] <Sophia> logging in with it just gives this, as usual :s http://content.screencast.com/users/CaptMagpie/folders/Jing/media/d2e2696d-be44-4cdf-b74d-f1f5bcc87343/2012-06-28_2328.png
#1763 [18:29] <Sophia> the default launcher srceen w/ tumblr feed was replaced with a small window with only a "username" input box and a "Connect" button
#1764 [18:29] <Morrolan> Does the vanilla client work when trying to connect, or do you get the same error?
#1765 [18:31] <Sophia> same thing
#1766 [18:31] <Sophia> without the .bat
#1767 [18:31] <Sophia> wont even connect to minecraft.net for login and the tumblr feed doesnt load, same error
#1768 [18:32] <lutzee> can you not just use the bat?
#1769 [18:32] <Morrolan> Well, but does it work with the bat?
#1770 [18:32] <Morrolan> The vanilla launcher I mean.
#1771 [18:32] <lutzee> you know you can also use the bat to asign more ram
#1772 [18:32] <Valium> Sophia your small window, can you SS that?
#1773 [18:33] <Sophia> SS?
#1774 [18:33] <Valium> screenshot
#1775 [18:33] <Sophia> and yeah, the .bat fixes the connect errors completely
#1776 [18:33] <Valium> just curious
#1777 [18:33] <lutzee> then what is the problem?
#1778 [18:33] <Sophia> no idea x.x
#1779 [18:33] <lutzee> 1) use the bat
#1780 [18:33] <lutzee> 2) evrything works
#1781 [18:33] <lutzee> 3)????
#1782 [18:33] <lutzee> 4) profit
#1783 [18:33] <Sophia> http://content.screencast.com/users/CaptMagpie/folders/Jing/media/798552e9-fb4e-4861-901f-b18886d3dfae/2012-06-28_2333.png
#1784 [18:34] <Sophia> thats the small window
#1785 [18:34] <Valium> oh.. a mod thingy
#1786 [18:34] <Sophia> using the bat didnt work, it should have..
#1787 [18:35] <Morrolan> Unless that custom launcher provides some major benefits then I'd just use the batch file + vanilla launcher.
#1788 [18:36] <Sophia> aye..
#1789 [18:36] <Morrolan> If that custom launcher provides major benefits then it'd be easiest to ask them to add an option to it where you can specifcy java parameters to launch the client with. :)
#1790 [18:37] <Valium> I would find out what command the launcher is running.
#1791 [18:37] <lutzee> um i believe if you put @echo off as the first line it should hide the window, or is that what PAUSE does?
#1792 [18:37] <lutzee> not familiar with batch tbh
#1793 [18:37] <Sophia> doesnt need to hide the window, its fine
#1794 [18:37] <Valium> lutzee: nah @echo off turns off local echo, so you dont see what the commands are
#1795 [18:37] <Morrolan> Pause makes it, who'd have thought, pause. Else it'd close immediately upon the program closing, making it impossible to read the error etc.
#1796 [18:37] <Sophia> i'm gonna pm the maker and ask for help anyway, this is too modded
#1797 [18:38] <Morrolan> And yea, @echo off makes it so commands you (or the batch file) types don't show up. Kinda silly if you ask me.
#1798 [18:38] <Valium> sophia, what mod is it? I'll take a look at it to see what the launcher does if you like, so you can get a more comprehensive bat
#1799 [18:38] <Sophia> the launcher was downloaded here : http://stormb.it/5fkjh3
#1800 [18:39] <Sophia> its a folder with the app and a .data folder in it
#1801 [18:39] <Sophia> eh, Data *
#1802 [18:39] <Valium> kk, digging.
#1803 [18:40] <Valium> well.... ignoring the fact that its a pirate launcher.....
#1804 [18:42] <Sophia> I guessed with the lack of password :/
#1805 [18:43] <lutzee> as you designate a username though, it is obviously for a server that is in offline mode
#1806 [18:43] <Valium> and that it goes against the do not distribute thingy...(I'm still looking)
#1807 [18:44] <Valium> it looks to be a tekkit server, based on the mods
#1808 [18:44] <lutzee> meh tekkit is illeagal anyway,
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#1810 [18:45] <SkyeGizzman> hi im having a problem with buying minecraft
#1811 [18:46] * PaladinPete is away: Dinner
#1811 [18:46] <Morrolan> Tekkit is illegal? oO
#1812 [18:46] <SkyeGizzman> it says i bought it and it charged my card but im still not premium yet?
#1813 [18:47] <Morrolan> PaladinPete - Generally speaking people on IRC don't like automated away-messages. :)
#1814 [18:47] <Morrolan> SkyeGizzman - If it charged your card (and you confirmed that it did), and you waited for a day or so, then you should contact Mojang.
#1815 [18:47] <Morrolan> Let me dig up the support article in questoin.
#1816 [18:47] <lutzee> yes Morrolan they distribute mods without the original authors permission
#1817 [18:48] <Morrolan> lutzee - Ah, that's them.
#1818 [18:48] <SkyeGizzman> but it has been 2 days?
#1819 [18:48] <lutzee> one of the authors went to the length of making a feature in their mod explode when it detects tekkit/technic is present just to have it removed from the pack
#1820 [18:48] <Morrolan> SkyeGizzman - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1821 [18:49] <Morrolan> SkyeGizzman - But make sure that your credit card provider didn't block the payment due to fraud prevention first. :)
#1822 [18:49] <Morrolan> They tend to do that, since it's an international payment.
#1823 [18:49] <Sophia> hmmm:/
#1824 [18:51] <Valium> Sophia: is it just this one launcher giving you trouble?
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#1826 [18:54] <Sophia> i think so, havent tried any others besides default
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#1828 [18:55] <Valium> well, all the mods you need for that server are in the folder, so you should be able to just pull those out and toss em into an install you have modloader on.
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#1830 [19:05] <langkid1> Sophia, ew that link you posted was a download not a page :(
#1831 [19:06] <Ryan_> My game of Minecraft will not start up anymore! Everything that I try to do doesn't work. Right when I log into it, it just freezes and brings up a black screen. Help!
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#1834 [19:07] <Morrolan> Ryan_ - Try to force an update: Start the launcher -> options -> force update -> log in like usual.
#1835 [19:07] <Morrolan> Most likely this'll fix it.
#1836 [19:07] <Ryan_> I'll try. One second.
#1837 [19:07] <Morrolan> If it doesn't - someone will show you how to launch it through the console, so we get an error to work with. Myself, I'll go hug my bed. :)
#1838 [19:07] <langkid1> Oh no, not ANOTHER mod pack that distribs mods without modder permission
#1839 [19:08] <Ryan_> Whenever I start it my computer lags A LOT.
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#1841 [19:08] <Sophia> langkid : amirite
#1842 [19:09] <langkid1> Sophia, if that mod pack doesn't require any dragging and dropping, or any other kind of "installation", I'd be VERY wary of it, It could be really breaking the Minecraft terms. (Ex: You don't have to modify the .JAR in %APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\)
#1843 [19:09] <Zyklon> I've been having connectivity issues with servers, where I can only stay on for a short time before chunks stop loading and my client times out. Other people on the server are fine, so I know it's only me. It doesn't occur while the other computer in the house is off, which uses netflix (which is probably the culprit) -- but the issue is that, with 120GB/mo bandwidth and 40Mbps download (according to spee
#1844 [19:09] <Zyklon> dtest.net), shouldn't I be able to maintain a connection regardless? Is there anything I can do, besides QoS (router doesn't have it.) to fix my connection?
#1845 [19:10] <mickster04> Ryan_: tell us more about your computer?
#1846 [19:10] <langkid1> Zyklon, sounds like a internet issue, but I've never heard of netflix using enough bandwidth to kick you off the server
#1847 [19:11] <Ryan_> Acer ASPIRE Intel Core i3-2330M 2.2GHz, 3MB L3 Cache with 4GB or RAM and 500 GB Hard Drive
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#1850 [19:14] <Zyklon> langkid1: So the question becomes, what can I do to maintain the connection? Some way to increase timeout delay/keep-alive on the client, or something :/
#1851 [19:14] <langkid1> Zyklon, can you post that server's IP?
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#1853 [19:14] <assistant693> Mm.
#1854 [19:15] <Zyklon_> Do you think using Hamachi between myself and the server would have any positive effect?
#1855 [19:15] <langkid1> NO
#1856 [19:16] <Sophia> ? o.o
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#1859 [19:23] <Ryan_> My Minecraft will not load. Everything was fine on my old computer, but now that I have my new and improved laptop, everything isn't working! I spent a few hours today trying to fix it but nothing works. Whenever I load it, I see all the updates and junk, but everything seems to freeze. Help?
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#1862 [19:28] <Ryan_> My Minecraft will not load. Everything was fine on my old computer, but now that I have my new and improved laptop, everything isn't working! I spent a few hours today trying to fix it but nothing works. Whenever I load it, I see all the updates and junk, but everything seems to freeze. Help?
#1863 [19:29] <coolmatt30> I am trying to get on my favorite minecraft server. It was working fine yesterday but today it says "Can't resolve hostname" I know it's right because I asked to owner for the address, and the owner can get on it perfectly.
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#1866 [19:39] <mickster04> Ryan_: dxdiag to pastebin?
#1867 [19:39] <mickster04> Ryan_: and did you try loading it from cmd
#1868 [19:40] <Elystus> ??> Ryan_ dixdiag
#1869 [19:40] <Ryan_> What is that?
#1870 [19:41] <Elystus> ??> Ryan_ dxdiag
#1871 [19:41] <Ryan_> what is that?
#1872 [19:41] <Elystus> ??> Elystus index
#1873 [19:41] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1874 [19:42] <Elystus> ??> Ryan_ win/dxdiag
#1875 [19:42] <VoxelHead> Ryan_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1876 [19:42] <VoxelHead> Ryan_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1877 [19:42] <langkid1> JUST DO IT!
#1878 [19:42] <Elystus> langkid1, calm down.
#1879 [19:42] <langkid1> Just a little unneeded enthusasium!
#1880 [19:43] <mickster04> today is caps lock day right?
#1881 [19:43] <Elystus> Wait, Ryan_ does it freeze on the update screen?
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#1883 [19:52] <Elystus> Ryan_ ?
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#1887 [19:56] <jamesuniverse> Ugh Sadly I keep getting black screen crashes. What should I do?
#1888 [19:57] <Elystus> Do you have a crash report?
#1889 [19:58] <jamesuniverse> Well it goes black then freezes... Thats it. No code or report
#1890 [19:58] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#1891 [19:58] <Elystus> THen post it on pastebin.com and give us the link :)
#1892 [20:00] <jamesuniverse> OK hold on. BTW I have no Mods and it is not hardware.
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#1895 [20:04] <jamesuniverse> I am kinda confused. I am on a Mac and I did method 2
#1896 [20:05] <Elystus> Did you get an error report?
#1897 [20:05] <Elystus> If not, method 1 will be easier.
#1898 [20:06] <jamesuniverse> Call me a noob, but I can't find mcpatcher?
#1899 [20:06] <jamesuniverse> :3
#1900 [20:06] <jamesuniverse> I don't download mods so I almost never go into MC folders
#1901 [20:08] <Elystus> MCPatcher forum page: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/232701-12w26a-125update-616-mcpatcher-hd-fix-237-02/
#1902 [20:12] <Elystus> ??> Elystus java/1.7
#1903 [20:12] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#1904 [20:13] <Elystus> ??> java/ipv6
#1905 [20:13] <Elystus> ??> Elystus java/ipv6
#1906 [20:13] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#1907 [20:13] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#1908 [20:15] <jamesuniverse> Sorry I think is server only and I can't get it to crash again.
#1909 [20:15] <Elystus> Oh, so there is no problem?
#1910 [20:17] <jamesuniverse> Well server, but I will have to deal with it. its not my server
#1911 [20:20] <Elystus> Have you been able to access the server in the past?
#1912 [20:24] <jamesuniverse> Access? always. It is random
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#1914 [20:36] <DirtyDNA> Hey, my minecraft keeps crashing and won't let me play. Can anyone help?
#1915 [20:37] <Elystus> Do you get a error report?
#1916 [20:37] <Elystus> If so, post it on pastebin.com
#1917 [20:37] <DirtyDNA> yah
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#1919 [20:38] <DirtyDNA> http://pastebin.com/FdLrm28b
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#1922 [20:39] <Elystus> Your graphics card' drivers are out of date
#1923 [20:39] <Elystus> ??> DirtyDNA win/dxdiag
#1924 [20:39] <VoxelHead> DirtyDNA: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1925 [20:39] <VoxelHead> DirtyDNA: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1927 [20:41] <DirtyDNA> http://pastebin.com/garFALE5
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#1929 [20:42] <username2357> Hi, I'm having what I think is some kind of version issue
#1930 [20:43] <username2357> I'm trying to run minecraft on a mac, and it says that I have version 1.0.0
#1931 [20:43] <Elystus> DirtyDNA: what version of windows, and i it 32 or 64 bit?
#1932 [20:43] <DirtyDNA> I have 7
#1933 [20:43] <DirtyDNA> windows 7*
#1934 [20:43] <Elystus> username2357: try force updating
#1935 [20:43] <DirtyDNA> but im not 100% sure
#1936 [20:43] <username2357> I have
#1937 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: His report says that it's Win 7 Ultimate 32-bit
#1938 [20:43] <Elystus> DirtyDNA: 64 or 32 bit?
#1939 [20:43] <username2357> but it doesn't do anything, and I can't login either
#1940 [20:44] <username2357> it always fails
#1941 [20:44] <DirtyDNA> yah i think 64
#1942 [20:44] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Why do I always forget to look at that >_<
#1943 [20:44] * DiskDaemon shrugs
#1943 [20:44] <username2357> when I go to play singleplayer offline, it says in the upper left corner that I'm running minecraft alpha v1.1.2_01
#1944 [20:45] <Elystus> DirtyDNA: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx
#1945 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> username2357: reinstall minecraft, by following these instructions
#1946 [20:45] <username2357> I'm using a mac
#1947 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> ??> username2357 mac/reinst
#1948 [20:45] <VoxelHead> username2357: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1949 [20:45] <VoxelHead> username2357: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1951 [20:47] <username2357> er
#1952 [20:47] <username2357> login still failed, and now I do not have the option of playing offline
#1953 [20:47] <Elystus> You are getting a login failed?
#1954 [20:47] <username2357> below the blacked out button it says "(not downloaded)"
#1955 [20:47] <username2357> yes
#1956 [20:48] <Elystus> What is your minecraft username?
#1957 [20:48] <username2357> lamchop1057
#1958 [20:48] <Elystus> !haspaid lamchop1057\
#1959 [20:48] <Elystus> !haspaid lamchop1057
#1960 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> !paid lamchop1057
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#1962 [20:48] <Elystus> Oh, its just paid >_>
#1963 [20:48] <DirtyDNA> :P
#1964 [20:49] <username2357> Yeah I played it almost two years ago
#1965 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> ;haspaid Paul_Wilkins
#1966 [20:49] <WugBot> Paul_Wilkins has paid for minecraft.
#1967 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> ahh, different bots :)
#1968 [20:49] <Elystus> Too many bots ;-;
#1969 [20:49] <username2357> any other suggestions?
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#1972 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> username2357: Can you log in to the minecraft.net website?
#1973 [20:52] <username2357> Ok, so I had to change my password but now everything appears to be working
#1974 [20:52] <username2357> I guess it got lost somehwere along the way..?
#1975 [20:52] <username2357> anyways, thanks for the help
#1976 [20:53] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
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#1978 [20:55] <DirtyDNA> Yah...i still get the error.
#1979 [20:56] <Elystus> DirtyDNA: uninstall your old driver btw. You can do that by going to control panel, uninstall a program, and find the drivers.
#1980 [20:56] <DirtyDNA> How do i find the drivers?
#1981 [20:57] <Elystus> Just look for anything named ATI pretty much.
#1982 [20:57] <Elystus> ATI Catalyst
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#1984 [20:57] <DirtyDNA> there is nothing in there...
#1985 [20:57] <DirtyDNA> with ati
#1986 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> drivers typically aren't listed in the add/remove panel
#1987 [20:58] <Elystus> Device manager Disk?
#1988 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> There was a program that is specially designed to help you remove drivers. I'll see if I can find it
#1989 [20:59] <DirtyDNA> ok thanks :)
#1990 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> Driver Sweeper is the name of the program
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#1992 [20:59] <Elystus> http://download.cnet.com/Driver-Sweeper/3000-2094_4-75219868.html
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#1994 [21:04] <DirtyDNA> i have to reboot?
#1995 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> yes
#1996 [21:06] <DirtyDNA> ok brb
#1997 [21:07] <Dan> ;check mc.ssfdre38.com:25565
#1998 [21:07] <WugBot> mc.ssfdre38.com:25565 seems to host a minecraft server: A Minecraft Snapshot (1/20)
#1999 [21:13] <Doodle> Hi I can not load Minecraft. I get the error message "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode." I have updated my Windows 7 and Intel(R) HD Graphic driver but the cam will not load. What do I need to do?
#2000 [21:13] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: It sounds like your graphics card video drivers need to be updated
#2001 [21:13] <DiskDaemon> ??> Doodle win/dxdiag
#2002 [21:13] <VoxelHead> Doodle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2003 [21:13] <VoxelHead> Doodle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2006 [21:17] <DirtyDNA> ummm
#2007 [21:18] <DirtyDNA> now it says bad video card drivers D=
#2008 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> Have you applied the update video drivers that the other person linked you to?
#2009 [21:18] <DirtyDNA> Im doing that now
#2010 [21:18] <Elystus> now install it :)
#2011 [21:18] <DirtyDNA> and my resolution is fked
#2012 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> Is it still part-way through installing?
#2013 [21:19] <DirtyDNA> its normall 1650 X 1080
#2014 [21:19] <DirtyDNA> now its 1600 x 1200
#2015 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> When installation finishes, you can adjust the resolution if need be
#2016 [21:20] <DirtyDNA> didnt install?
#2017 [21:20] <DirtyDNA> it failed
#2018 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: Are you the person who has a ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT graphics card?
#2019 [21:21] <DirtyDNA> yes
#2020 [21:21] <DirtyDNA> he gave me the link and i dled it
#2021 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> ATI don't exist anymore, the company went bust and were bought out by AMD. I'll see if any other drivers exist for your card.
#2022 [21:22] <DirtyDNA> yah amd drivers updates
#2023 [21:22] <Elystus> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx
#2024 [21:22] <DirtyDNA> nbm
#2025 [21:22] <DirtyDNA> nvm
#2026 [21:22] <DirtyDNA> now the update installed
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#2028 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> so it hadn't failed?
#2029 [21:23] <DirtyDNA> not this time
#2030 [21:23] <Elystus> \o/
#2031 [21:23] <SIGS3GV> Where is the official place to request a bugfix in minecraft?
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#2033 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> I don't think there are any official bugfix places
#2034 [21:23] <DirtyDNA> nope :/
#2035 [21:23] <DirtyDNA> still bad card drivers
#2036 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> Mojang however use unofficial resources such as the minecraft wiki to help manage such things
#2037 [21:23] <SIGS3GV> So how does Mojang get feedback from users? :)
#2038 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: Can we get another dxdiag report, for further diagnosis?
#2039 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> SIGS3GV: Mojang however use unofficial resources such as the minecraft wiki to help manage such things
#2040 [21:24] <SIGS3GV> We lose power a lot, and zeroing out the level.dat when starting the game seems extremely boneheaded in case of a crash
#2041 [21:25] <Doodle> Where would I find the IRC channel?
#2042 [21:25] <DirtyDNA> http://pastebin.com/xeqNxvxX
#2043 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: Which IRC channel?
#2044 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: Your display drivers don't seem to be listed in there yet. Try again after restarting your machine
#2045 [21:27] <Elystus> The install may require a reboot. If not, then the install probably failed.
#2046 [21:27] <Elystus> Which i unlikely.
#2047 [21:27] <Elystus> is*
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#2050 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: I've also found a different set of drivers for your graphics card, that may help http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-32.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.14&lang=us&rev=&ostype=Windows%207%20-%2032-Bit%20Edition
#2051 [21:29] <DirtyDNA> what do i do with that>
#2052 [21:29] <Doodle> totally have no idea what an IRC is
#2053 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> Run. It. !.
#2054 [21:29] <DirtyDNA> i did now what?
#2055 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: This right here is IRC. It's an internet relay chat.
#2056 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: I don't have your computer of your graphics card or information about what should happen with them
#2057 [21:30] <Doodle> http://pastebin.com/NxVj9E7z
#2058 [21:30] <DirtyDNA> oh?
#2059 [21:30] <DirtyDNA> how do u give u them?
#2060 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> By searching
#2061 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here works for Mojang. We are all community volunteers who do what we can to help
#2062 [21:32] <Elystus> ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
#2063 [21:32] <Elystus> is his graphics card.
#2064 [21:33] <DirtyDNA> yah my drivers are not showing
#2065 [21:34] <DirtyDNA> in dxdiag they all say unknown
#2066 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: It looks like this page has Intel display drivers for your particular laptop
#2067 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: What does the "AMD Mobility Radeon Driver Verification Tool" do for you?
#2068 [21:34] <DirtyDNA> idk
#2069 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: http://driver.laptopsoft.com/toshiba-satellite-l650-driver-download-and-software-support
#2070 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: It's from the last link that I gave you
#2071 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> http://driver.laptopsoft.com/toshiba-satellite-l650-driver-download-and-software-support
#2072 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> That one ^
#2073 [21:35] <DirtyDNA> yah i dled it
#2074 [21:35] <DirtyDNA> and it installed
#2075 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> No, not that one. Stupid copy/paste
#2076 [21:35] <Elystus> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#2077 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-32.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.14&lang=us&rev=&ostype=Windows%207%20-%2032-Bit%20Edition
#2078 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> That one
#2079 [21:35] <DirtyDNA> yah i installed it
#2080 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Not the auto detect, but the page that has AMD Mobility Radeon™ Driver Verification Tool
#2081 [21:35] <Elystus> Ahh, I see
#2082 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> From this link here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-32.aspx?type=2.4.2&product=2.4.2.3.14&lang=us&rev=&ostype=Windows%207%20-%2032-Bit%20Edition
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#2085 [21:36] <DirtyDNA> yes
#2086 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: So, what does the AMD Mobility Radeon Driver Verification Tool do for you?
#2087 [21:40] <DirtyDNA> My computer does not contain a proper graphics adapter
#2088 [21:40] <DirtyDNA> D:
#2089 [21:41] <Doodle> now that I am on http://driver.laptopsoft.com/toshiba-satellite-l650-driver-download-and-software-support what should I select?
#2090 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: When you installed that driver update earlier on, was it installed as your normal account user, or as an administrator?
#2091 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> protip: right-click on the file to choose to run it as an administrator
#2092 [21:43] <Doodle> 0
#2093 [21:43] * GreyVulpine blinks
#2093 [21:43] <DirtyDNA> i did now
#2094 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Oh geez, a toshiba 6xx series..
#2095 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> yeah, it's not pretty
#2096 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Toshiba will not have the latest drivers for you, you'll need to hit up intel site at:
#2097 [21:45] <Doodle> ■Intel Display Driver?
#2098 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#2099 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> Notice that those drivers on toshiba's site are dated 2010?
#2100 [21:47] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, Once a computer is manufactured, toshiba never keeps their support page up to date with those drivers. They'll provide the ones that shipped with the computer
#2101 [21:49] <DirtyDNA> still no :/
#2102 [21:50] <GreyVulpine> Doodle - Try http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3498&DwnldID=21428&keyword=Intel+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
#2103 [21:51] <DirtyDNA> nothing wants to work for me :/
#2104 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> DirtyDNA: At this stage, I don't think that your computer may be capable of being used to play Minecraft
#2105 [21:53] <DirtyDNA> i've played it before
#2106 [21:53] <DirtyDNA> it was when it was vista
#2107 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> Then go back to vista?
#2108 [21:55] * Awkward_Badger [Awkward_Badger@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2109 [21:56] <Awkward_Badger> Im having difficulty logging into minecraft, i can log onto minecraft.net but not the application itself.
#2110 [21:57] <DirtyDNA> i cant know
#2111 [21:57] <DirtyDNA> lost disk
#2112 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> Then you are out of options.
#2113 [21:58] <Awkward_Badger> what do you mean? do i need to install the game again?
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#2115 [21:58] <LoLer> Can anyone help me??
#2116 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> Awkward_Badger: What error message do you get?
#2117 [21:59] <Doodle> Error message : "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software" any other ideas?
#2118 [21:59] <LoLer> I open my minecraft, then a black screen behind User appears
#2119 [21:59] <Awkward_Badger> it is just saying log in failed
#2120 [21:59] <LoLer> Behind User, that square for Force Update and Enter Game
#2121 [22:00] <LoLer> When I try to Force Update, that letters "freeze" and another letter stay on in
#2122 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> Awkward_Badger: I've heard that going through the reset password process can help with that
#2123 [22:00] <Awkward_Badger> ok thanks, ill give that a try
#2124 [22:01] <LoLer> Help me ?
#2125 [22:02] <Awkward_Badger> thanks DiskDaemon, everythings working fine
#2126 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> LoLer: sorry, I don't know how to with that
#2127 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> Awkward_Badger: you're welcome
#2128 [22:02] <LoLer> When I press "Enter Game", instantly appears Black Screen...
#2129 [22:03] <LoLer> This just began after i refformated my PC (clean all data of HD)
#2130 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> LoLer: We can help when we have a crash report. There are instruction at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash on how to put one of those together
#2131 [22:03] <LoLer> Ok :/
#2132 [22:04] <LoLer> There is no Crash report
#2133 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> The black screen is the crash. There are instructions at that page on how to get the report of what occurred
#2134 [22:06] <LoLer> Ok
#2135 [22:09] <LoLer> I dont know if its help, but, I cant play in Browser too
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#2137 [22:09] <DiskDaemon> Let's find out what's causing the problem, so that steps can be taken to resolve the issue.
#2138 [22:10] <DiskDaemon> That's far better than tying one of hundred of different things, blindly hoping that it might work
#2139 [22:11] <LoLer> I created that .bat file
#2140 [22:11] <LoLer> and ran it
#2141 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> You may need to place a pause command at the end of the batch file, to give you the opportunity to copy/paste the contents of the error
#2142 [22:17] <LoLer> when I open that .bat file, automaticaly opens minecraft, is it right ?
#2143 [22:20] <LoLer> OK! OK! I copied everything that was in .bat file
#2144 [22:20] <Doodle> Error message : "This computer does not meet the minimum requirements for installing the software" any other ideas?
#2145 [22:20] <GreyVulpine> Doodle - How did you try installing it?
#2146 [22:21] <GreyVulpine> Just ran the .exe?
#2147 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> ??> LoLer pastebin
#2148 [22:21] <VoxelHead> LoLer: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2149 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Doodle - Download this. Unzip it onto a folder on your desktop.
#2150 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3498&DwnldID=21431&keyword=Intel+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
#2151 [22:22] <Doodle> clicked the download button then saved it when it was finished and then tried to run and then go the error.
#2152 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Once you're finished. Go to your start menu. Right click on "Computer". Go to properties. Along the left side, click on Device manager.
#2153 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Let me know once you've gotten that far
#2154 [22:23] <LoLer> http://pastebin.com/58SBrVvH
#2155 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> LoLer: Please paste it in to the channel so that others here may help with it as well
#2156 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> ta
#2157 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> It seems that a special character in your user name is causing the problem
#2158 [22:24] <LoLer> DiskDaemon , where r u from ?? I mean... "ta" it is a word from my country
#2159 [22:24] <LoLer> ohhh..
#2160 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> There may be a way to fix that
#2161 [22:24] <LoLer> In my "user" ?
#2162 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Looks that way
#2163 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> ??> LoLer win/!
#2164 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> ??> LoLer win/!
#2165 [22:24] <VoxelHead> LoLer: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#2166 [22:24] <VoxelHead> LoLer: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#2167 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> LoLer: I'm from New Zealand
#2168 [22:25] <LoLer> I'm from Brazil and " ta " means " ok "
#2169 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, here it's an Englishism that means thanks
#2170 [22:26] * Marc_IRL [Marc_IRL@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2171 [22:26] <LoLer> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
#2172 [22:26] <LoLer> woooow .
#2173 [22:26] <LoLer> it is updating
#2174 [22:26] * GreyVulpine high-fives DiskDaemon.
#2174 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> \o
#2175 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> Time for a cuppa tea
#2176 [22:27] <LoLer> man... owe u one.
#2177 [22:27] <Marc_IRL> Another victory for the help chat?
#2178 [22:28] <LoLer> Time for a cuppa tea [2]
#2179 [22:28] * GreyVulpine points Marc_IRL at http://pastebin.com/58SBrVvH
#2179 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> Specifically - "Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\XandÒo (O sistema nÒo pode en
#2180 [22:28] <GreyVulpine> contrar o arquivo especificado)
#2181 [22:29] <LoLer> Thaaanks *-*
#2182 [22:29] <LoLer> yeah
#2183 [22:29] <LoLer> Xandão
#2184 [22:29] <LoLer> ~
#2185 [22:29] <LoLer> its from portuguese
#2186 [22:29] <GreyVulpine> Yup, java has issues with special characters in the user folder path
#2187 [22:30] <LoLer> Man..
#2188 [22:30] <Marc_IRL> wow
#2189 [22:30] <LoLer> How can i thank u
#2190 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> Just have fun, play.
#2191 [22:30] <Marc_IRL> Curse you, tilde
#2192 [22:30] <LoLer> I just.. man... so happy
#2193 [22:30] <LoLer> Greetings from Brazil !!!!
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#2195 [22:36] <Doodle> Re-tried downloading from http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/21428/a08/Win7_152612.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=21428&ProductID=3498&keyword=Intel+HD+Graphics and it didn't work again. I closed the error message box and get an option to reinstall using recommended settings and got the same minimum requirements not met error message. ,
#2196 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> Doodle - Use: Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\XandÒo (O sistema nÒo pode en
#2197 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> contrar o arquivo especificado)
#2198 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> er
#2199 [22:36] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3498&DwnldID=21431&keyword=Intel+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
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#2201 [22:37] <Doodle> huh?
#2202 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Download from there, instead of the first link I gave you
#2203 [22:37] <Darkbayn> Can someone get client to work for them?
#2204 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> Darkbayn: What seems to be the problem that you're having?
#2205 [22:38] <Darkbayn> It says that it cannot connet
#2206 [22:38] <Darkbayn> to any servers...
#2207 [22:39] <Darkbayn> connect* sorry
#2208 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> So you can log in and get through to the client for single player?
#2209 [22:39] <Darkbayn> I can't use client at all
#2210 [22:39] <GreyVulpine> Doodle- Go here: Download the zip. http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3498&DwnldID=21431&keyword=Intel+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
#2211 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> Can you give us the actual error message that it gives?
#2212 [22:39] <Darkbayn> Yeah one sec
#2213 [22:40] <Darkbayn> Failed to connect. Failed to connect to server. It's probably down!
#2214 [22:41] <Darkbayn> It's for every server I've tried so far.
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#2216 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> Darkbayn: So you can play the single player part of the game?
#2217 [22:41] <Darkbayn> What do you mean?
#2218 [22:41] <Darkbayn> Isn't the client only for the .30?
#2219 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> I don't follow
#2220 [22:42] <Darkbayn> The 2.0.7 client
#2221 [22:42] <Darkbayn> With noclip flying and all that good stuff?
#2222 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, it updated to version 1.2.5 a long time ago now
#2223 [22:43] <Darkbayn> I see...
#2224 [22:44] <Darkbayn> I'll see what I can find
#2225 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> Darkbayn: Are you playing Minecraft with a premium account? Or a cracked version of the game?
#2226 [22:44] <Darkbayn> Premium account
#2227 [22:44] <Darkbayn> Wait...
#2228 [22:44] <Darkbayn> what is craker, again?
#2229 [22:44] <Darkbayn> cracked*
#2230 [22:44] <Darkbayn> sorry
#2231 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> By that I mean an illegally obtained version of the game
#2232 [22:44] <Darkbayn> No? I bought the game
#2233 [22:45] <Darkbayn> Oh...
#2234 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> Okay, perform a forced update, and it will then download for you the 1.2.5 version of the game
#2235 [22:45] <Darkbayn> I bought the game, yes, but
#2236 [22:45] <Darkbayn> I am talking about the WoM client
#2237 [22:45] <Darkbayn> is this not the channel for that?
#2238 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> we can't help with that
#2239 [22:45] <Darkbayn> Oh...
#2240 [22:45] <Darkbayn> Hahaha
#2241 [22:46] <Darkbayn> Well, thanks for the help :P
#2242 [22:47] * conman2s [conman2s@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2243 [22:47] <conman2s> t
#2244 [22:47] <conman2s> theuy
#2245 [22:47] <conman2s> hey
#2246 [22:47] <conman2s> i need help downloading a mod solar apocolips
#2247 [22:48] <Marc_IRL> ...what is a WoM client?
#2248 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2249 [22:48] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2250 [22:48] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#2251 [22:48] <GreyVulpine> World of Minecraft. It's a downloadable third party client for classic
#2252 [22:48] <Marc_IRL> interesting
#2253 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: It's a separate client from worldofminecraft.com
#2254 [22:48] <DiskDaemon> Apparantly it's known to be a more stable version than the existing classic one
#2255 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> I try to keep away from it though
#2256 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Plus adds a few more.. features
#2257 [22:49] <GreyVulpine> Some benign, some downright cheaty.
#2258 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> Fly, Speed, No-Clip, Map Dump, WoM Direct and Screenshot features.
#2259 [22:49] <Marc_IRL> Seeing as how classic had like, no features, anything would be an upgrade
#2260 [22:51] * AcaBaka [AcaBaka@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2261 [22:52] <AcaBaka> hey its not working to download minecraft to desktop it is only working to play in browser
#2262 [22:52] * CrusaderDeleters [CrusaderDeleters@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2263 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> AcaBaka: Does it give an error message?
#2264 [22:53] <AcaBaka> no i download it and and click on the icon and nothing happens
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#2266 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> AcaBaka: Okay, let's see if we can get an error report from it
#2267 [22:54] <AcaBaka> how
#2268 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> There are some updated instructions on how to get an error report, found at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Windows
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#2271 [22:59] <LoLer> It's me again!!!!
#2272 [22:59] <GreyVulpine> Welcome back
#2273 [22:59] <LoLer> U helped me with special caracter
#2274 [23:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Tips hat because Tips Tips for Tips
#2275 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> That we did
#2276 [23:00] <LoLer> Just one question.
#2277 [23:00] <GreyVulpine> Ask away
#2278 [23:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Remember grey, this is a place NOT for helping?
#2279 [23:00] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2279 [23:00] <LoLer> Can I play only with this "Play minecraft" ?
#2280 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> CrusaderDeleters: damn, so that's where we've been going wrong
#2281 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Yes, use the shortcut on your desktop to launch
#2282 [23:01] <CrusaderDeleters> I know.
#2283 [23:01] <LoLer> I mean.. before I refformated my computer, I was playing with "MinecraftSP"
#2284 [23:01] <LoLer> I tried to play with minecraftsp and still got black screen..
#2285 [23:01] * Doodle [Doodle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2286 [23:01] <LoLer> I play with "Play Minecraft" with my friend's account
#2287 [23:01] <CrusaderDeleters> You iz uh pirate?
#2288 [23:01] <GreyVulpine> Okay?
#2289 [23:01] <LoLer> yes and no ... '-'
#2290 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> LoLer: That's likely to be due to a change to the hosts file that was made
#2291 [23:02] <LoLer> i play SP just offline.. when i want online i just log in with my friend's acc
#2292 [23:02] <Doodle> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/21428/a08/Win7_152612.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=21428&ProductID=3498&keyword=Intel+HD+Graphics and http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3498&DwnldID=21431&keyword=Intel+HD+Graphics&lang=eng didn't work
#2293 [23:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Lolwut, doodle?
#2294 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: Your computer system may not be capable of playing Minecraft
#2295 [23:03] <LoLer> Can't I play with Minecraft SP ?
#2296 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> LoLer - If you'll want to continue playing with a pirated, perhaps compromised versino of minecraft, sure
#2297 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> version, even
#2298 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> That's up to you.
#2299 [23:04] <Doodle> how would I get a refund then?
#2300 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> We do not support help for pirates.
#2301 [23:04] <LoLer> Thats ok
#2302 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> Refund from?
#2303 [23:04] <LoLer> it was just a question
#2304 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> It's alright.
#2305 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> You didn't pay for MinecraftSP.
#2306 [23:04] <LoLer> I'm going to buy minecraft NOW !
#2307 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Loler
#2308 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Tip
#2309 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> YEah that.
#2310 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> That was my tip.
#2311 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: You do not get a refund for buying a modern computer game and trying to play it on an old computer. Get better equipment.
#2312 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Derpy Voxel. XD
#2313 [23:04] <Doodle> Minecraft.net. I had to purchase it before downloading it.
#2314 [23:05] <LoLer> I have to buy from another site
#2315 [23:05] <LoLer> because i live in another country
#2316 [23:05] <LoLer> not in Europe
#2317 [23:05] <CrusaderDeleters> You gotta buy MC From Minecraft.net
#2318 [23:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't buy it from another site
#2319 [23:05] <CrusaderDeleters> more than 100%, they are scammers.
#2320 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: Having said that, you can email Mojang and they might do something to help
#2321 [23:05] <Doodle> My computer is less than a year old.
#2322 [23:05] <LoLer> My friend bought from another site
#2323 [23:05] <CrusaderDeleters> So is mine. c:
#2324 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> He got lucky then.
#2325 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Buy it form minecraft.net. XD
#2326 [23:06] <LoLer> we are from Brazil man..
#2327 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Cuz there is a way to do so
#2328 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh.
#2329 [23:06] <LoLer> so, we must buy from other people who gave us "key"
#2330 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Still... I think.
#2331 [23:06] <LoLer> I do not know how to buy in "minecraft.net"
#2332 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Erm.. I'm thinking you should try to look around with minecraft.net anyways. I would never trust an outside source. :L
#2333 [23:07] <LoLer> I dont wannabe a Jack Sparrow anymore
#2334 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> We have had MANY people coming here asking why the gift codes didn't work because of the fact that they bought from an outside source.
#2335 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> But Sparrow is awesome! D:
#2336 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Anyways, I'm off to bed now.
#2337 [23:07] <LoLer> D:
#2338 [23:07] <LoLer> Ok
#2339 [23:07] <LoLer> Good night :D
#2340 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Keep fiddling with MC.net
#2341 [23:08] <LoLer> i 'll buy there
#2342 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Even ask around here for help with purchasing minecraft.
#2343 [23:08] <LoLer> :D
#2344 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> We do not give help to Pirates, but we do help with purchasing.
#2345 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: This says that your graphics card from from at least 2008 http://www.mypcdrivers.com/results/driver_file_detail.php?inf_file_id=611139&md5=e4bb0fad477d069d19139a33e6231f66&scanid=401E8F296EC241A8B7091CE9825BFE7A&item_id=78535479&hardware_id=PCI%255CVEN_1002%2526DEV_9588%2526SUBSYS_25421028
#2346 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Goobai awl.
#2347 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> Doodle: All I can advise is that you upgrade your graphics card, if not the computer itself.
#2348 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> I'm quite sure Doodle's computer can handle it (with poor FPS)
#2349 [23:09] <Doodle> but how. I have been trying that all night with your assistance.
#2350 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> If he'll just install the zip's contents via window's device manager
#2351 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> But you keep leaving.
#2352 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> It would be great he things can be got going for him. I'm at the extent of my ability to do so though
#2353 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Doodle - Download this. Unzip it onto a folder on your desktop.
#2354 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3498&DwnldID=21431&keyword=Intel+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
#2355 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Once you're finished. Go to your start menu. Right click on "Computer". Go to properties. Along the left side, click on Device manager.
#2356 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> Let me know once you've gotten that far
#2357 [23:12] <Doodle> downloading now. Not sur ehow to unzip it thought
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#2359 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> If you right click on the file, there'll be an option to unzip/extract it
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#2361 [23:26] <Doodle> okay I am at Device Manager
#2362 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> Look for display, expand it. Do you see Intel HD graphics?
#2363 [23:27] <Doodle> yes
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#2365 [23:27] <Doodle> i see it
#2366 [23:28] <GreyVulpine> Right click on it. Choose Update driver.
#2367 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> Click on "Browse my computer for drivers", ""Let me pick from a list of drivers", and then the "Have disk" button
#2368 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> you'll go to the folder you extracted the driver you downloaded earlier to. In that folder will be a folder named "Graphics" Select the file named "igdlh64.INF", and click "Ok". The driver should install from there. It'll ask you to reboot when it's done. Do so.
#2369 [23:36] <langkid1> what's up
#2370 [23:37] <Doodle> i dont have igdlg64.INF but I do have a kit45406.inf
#2371 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> One sec, let me recheck the file
#2372 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> I guess they changed it. Try the other .inf file
#2373 [23:42] <Doodle> it is asking me to insert manufacturer disc
#2374 [23:44] <Doodle> ans copy manufacturers file from when it browse I have selected the kit 45406.inf file. Is that correct?
#2375 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> Yes
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#2377 [23:48] <Doodle> it takes me to the screen where I select Have Disk
#2378 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> There should be a way to force the device manager wizard to take the driver you downloaded there
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#2381 [23:58] <Doodle> i dont see other options
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