#1 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> When you clicked on Have disk, did you open up the folder where you downloaded the driver to?
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#3 [00:00] <GreyVulpine> It should have just started installing once you clicked on the .inf file
#4 [00:01] <ponci> HELP im having problem...after down loading the game....this shows up...BAD VIDEO CARD...what shoud i do???
#5 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> Update your video card's drivers. Do you know what video card you have?
#6 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> ponci: update your video card drivers
#7 [00:01] <ponci> how?...
#8 [00:02] <GreyVulpine> What kind of computer do you have? What operating system is it running?
#9 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> ponci: Let's get some information about things
#10 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> ??> ponci win/dxdiag
#11 [00:02] <VoxelHead> ponci: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#12 [00:02] <VoxelHead> ponci: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#13 [00:04] <ponci> please run this with me...i am only 10 y/o
#14 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> On your keyboard, in the lower left, do you see a button with a logo on it, between the ctrl and alt keys?
#15 [00:06] <ponci> yes sir
#16 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> Please press that, and the R key at the same time.
#17 [00:06] <Doodle> I clicked on Have disk and i get a pop up box Install from Disk and it says "Inser the manufacturers installation disk and then make sure that the correct drive is selected below. I browse my desk top files and select the KIT45650 file and when I click open it takes me back to the screen where I select Have Disk
#18 [00:06] <GreyVulpine> This will bring up a Run command. There, type in: dxdiag
#19 [00:07] <GreyVulpine> Doodle - Did you leave the KIT45650 file inside the graphics folder?
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#21 [00:07] <bloobblop> im running Pex & essichenals . my problem is i cant turn on T-N-T explosions or creeper explosions . how do i tur it on ??
#22 [00:08] <ponci> voxelhead..got it sir...whats next?
#23 [00:08] <GreyVulpine> bloobblop - Try asking in #bukkit
#24 [00:08] <bloobblop> ok :)
#25 [00:08] <bloobblop> ty
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#27 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> ponci - Do you see a directx diagnostic panel up?
#28 [00:10] <Doodle> I didn't have an unzip option so i extracted All. on my desk top the KIt inf file is separate but when I browse on the install from disk screen I select it and it defaults to the Graphics
#29 [00:10] <ponci> yes sir
#30 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> ponci - Click on the lower right button, labeled "save all information". Save it on your desktop.
#31 [00:10] <ponci> saved sir
#32 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> ponci - Go to your desktop, open up the dxdiag file you just created.
#33 [00:11] <GreyVulpine> Doodle - Strange, it should have ran the install process when you clicked on the .inf file.
#34 [00:11] <ponci> ok
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#36 [00:12] <Jamy> login servers down?
#37 [00:12] <GreyVulpine> ponci - Copy everything inside. Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it in the text box there. Then press submit
#38 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> When you do, it'll take you to a new website. Give us the address there
#39 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> !login
#40 [00:13] <Jamy> Of what
#41 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Login servers are up
#42 [00:13] <Jamy> Ok gthanks
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#44 [00:14] <masterwood81> hello. got an issue for ya, if yiur not busy.
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#47 [00:15] <ponci> greyvulpine..i just submitted it...whats next sir
#48 [00:16] <GreyVulpine> Look up in your address bar, give us the new address after www.pastebin.com
#49 [00:16] <ponci> http://pastebin.com/zBYgpT9u
#50 [00:18] <GreyVulpine> Give me one moment
#51 [00:18] <ponci> thank you sir
#52 [00:19] <masterwood81> should i just post the error report then stem off from there?
#53 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/44967
#54 [00:19] <GreyVulpine> Ponci - Please download and install those drivers
#55 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> masterwood81: To pastebin, if you could
#56 [00:20] <masterwood81> ok whats paste bin?
#57 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> ??> masterwood81 pastebin
#58 [00:20] <VoxelHead> masterwood81: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#59 [00:21] <masterwood81> one sec
#60 [00:23] <masterwood81> http://pastebin.com/AqQUP0PU like that?
#61 [00:24] <ponci> greyvulpine..downloading sir
#62 [00:25] <masterwood81> ok i stared frsh .minecraft folder deleted meta inf started with forge then forestry the the buildcrafts issue arose installing the final buildcraft transportation yes one at a time and checked to see if mc worked after each
#63 [00:25] <DiskDaemon> masterwood81: Thank you. We don't provide support with mod here, but we can help you to find out if reverting to a clean Minecraft install removes the problem.
#64 [00:25] <ponci> download complete sir...what should i do next?
#65 [00:26] <masterwood81> hummmmm recomenations?
#66 [00:26] <masterwood81> were to go that is
#67 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> masterwood81: Start with a clean install
#68 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> Does the clean install work?
#69 [00:29] <GreyVulpine> ponci - Install it
#70 [00:30] <ponci> i'm playing it now...THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR...ur the GREATEST
#71 [00:30] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#73 [00:31] * DiskDaemon hands GreyVulpine a cookie, in solidarity
#73 [00:31] * GreyVulpine grins
#73 [00:31] <masterwood81> clead install..... empty .mincraftfolder?
#74 [00:32] <masterwood81> i do that every time i try to configure mods
#75 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> ??> masterwood81 mods
#76 [00:32] <VoxelHead> masterwood81: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#77 [00:32] <VoxelHead> masterwood81: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#78 [00:32] <Doodle> its late and so far nothing has been sucessful. will try again tomorrow
#79 [00:33] <masterwood81> ok im off then thanx
#80 [00:33] <ponci> one more question sir...how can i create an icon for this game?
#81 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> right-click on the launcher, and you should be able to pin it to the start menu
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#83 [00:34] <ponci> what is a launcher?
#84 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> The minecraft.exe file is the Minecraft Launcher
#85 [00:36] <ponci> so everytime i click that..i should click "run"?
#86 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> I'm not sure what you mean there
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#89 [00:38] <mickster04> ponci: what OS?
#90 [00:38] <ponci> i cant find minecraft.exe....i think i just pinned the installer
#91 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> minecraft.exe is the file that you download from minecraft.net
#92 [00:40] <ponci> yup that is the one....everytime i click that icon it shows "run the software"
#93 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> Okay. If what I think is going on, that's how Windows tries to protect you from programs downloaded from the internet
#94 [00:42] <DiskDaemon> You can right-click on it and go to properties, to unblock the file. That way the warning won't appear for that particular file.
#95 [00:43] <ponci> im on the properties...how can i unblock it?
#96 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> ponci: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/124367-open-file-security-warning-unblock-file.html
#97 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> scroll down to the "To Unblock the File Through Properties Page" section
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#99 [00:46] <Nate_> hey
#100 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#101 [00:46] <Nate_> i have an issue
#102 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> I have a subscription (poor joke)
#103 [00:47] <Nate_> haha
#104 [00:47] <Nate_> im trying to set up an account to play the old free version
#105 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> the classic one, okayu
#106 [00:47] <Nate_> so i go to set up an account
#107 [00:48] <Nate_> and it tells me that my emails already in use
#108 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> one email per account
#109 [00:48] <Nate_> i dont remember ever setting up an account
#110 [00:48] <ponci> thanKs a MILLION again sir
#111 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> ponci: you're welcome
#112 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> ponci: you're welcome
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#114 [00:49] <Nate_> so i have them email me my "username"
#115 [00:49] <Nate_> and it says its "NateHinxman"
#116 [00:49] <Nate_> (which is a name i prob would of used"
#117 [00:49] <Nate_> )*
#118 [00:49] <Nate_> so i go back to try to figure out my password for this username
#119 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> okay, so you have an account
#120 [00:50] <Nate_> try to have them send me an email with my password
#121 [00:50] <Nate_> using the "NateHinxman" username it gave me in the email
#122 [00:50] <Nate_> and it tells me that "this is not a valid username"
#123 [00:50] <Nate_> or something like that
#124 [00:51] <Nate_> saying they dont have an account with that name
#125 [00:51] <Nate_> but thats the username they sent me in the email
#126 [00:51] <Nate_> so i dont understand
#127 [00:51] <Nate_> and i honestly dont remember ever setting up an account on there
#128 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> How odd. Mojang might be able to help if you email them, but it's likely to take a couple of months for a reply
#129 [00:52] <Nate_> :(
#130 [00:52] <Nate_> there is no one i can email to get a response sooner? :/
#131 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> There are some articles that they have though at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151510-account-troubleshooting-/articles which may provide you with some tips on what can be done
#132 [00:53] <tips48> -.-
#133 [00:53] <Nate_> i looked for a list of email adds
#134 [00:53] <Nate_> couldnt find one, so i figured this might help :/
#135 [00:53] <DiskDaemon> About the only viable contact method is by using http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#136 [00:54] <Nate_> ty
#137 [00:54] <Nate_> sry for watin yer time
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#139 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> at least you have more information to work with now
#140 [00:57] <Nate_> yes, thats y i said ty :)
#141 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#142 [01:03] <Elystus> What is going on?
#143 [01:04] <Elystus> Oh, response times?
#144 [01:06] <DiskDaemon> He gets email from Mojang about his username, but when trying to reset the password on that username they claim it doesn't exist.
#145 [01:06] <Elystus> This is a good link for reply times Nate_:http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#146 [01:06] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#147 [01:08] <Elystus> The only thing I can think of is that he created an account a while back that was never verified. Maybe non-verified accounts do not "exist", but rather are in limbo.
#148 [01:08] <Elystus> Also, there is a glitch with the account deletion system.
#149 [01:08] <Nate_> thats what i was thinkin
#150 [01:09] <Nate_> the never verified thing
#151 [01:09] <Elystus> If a migrated account is deleted, then the name is shown as being registered. But it also does not exist. So that is another possibility.
#152 [01:09] <DiskDaemon> This is the article that seems to best answer things http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
#153 [01:10] <DiskDaemon> This one may be useful too http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#154 [01:10] <Elystus> When you do not get password reset emails, it is often due to a typo.
#155 [01:10] * PaladinPete is away: sleep
#155 [01:11] <Elystus> What I am thinking is that you made a typo back when you first made an account, so you could not verify it. THen you left it.
#156 [01:11] <Elystus> EIther way, if you want that name fixed so that you can have it, you will have to contact them.
#157 [01:12] <Nate_> thats prob pretty accurate
#158 [01:13] <Elystus> Also, the response times are getting shorter and shorter. It will not be months, it will be probably a month, maybe two.
#159 [01:14] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#160 [01:14] <DiskDaemon> It's two months on there, as of a few weeks ago
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#162 [01:14] <Elystus> I am guesing a month and a half. Actually, I can ask him to update it.
#163 [01:14] <DiskDaemon> Let's not work with guesses
#164 [01:15] <Elystus> I see your point. :)
#165 [01:15] <Jake> My minecraft game is running really slow, is there a way to improve that?
#166 [01:15] <Nate_> thatd b cool if he updated it :)
#167 [01:15] <DiskDaemon> Jake: Yes there is. Use a better graphics card.
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#169 [01:16] <Elystus> You could try a mod like optifine
#170 [01:16] <Jake> ok how do i install or get one?
#171 [01:16] <DiskDaemon> Jake: You might be able to achieve some minor improvements though by going in to Options and adjusting some of the video settings
#172 [01:16] <Elystus> ^
#173 [01:16] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-125-optifine-hd-c3-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and-much-more/
#174 [01:17] <ponci> help pls...i just started playing minecraft...at the middle of the game it freezes...what should i do
#175 [01:17] <Jake> can you be more specific on which video setting?
#176 [01:17] <DiskDaemon> ponci: Can we get an error report from when it freezes?
#177 [01:18] <ponci> error report?
#178 [01:18] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Windows
#179 [01:18] <Elystus> Jake: alter: Graphics to fast, fog to low, clouds off
#180 [01:19] <DiskDaemon> By using the update instructions there
#181 [01:19] <Elystus> Jake: turn particles off, and head bob off.
#182 [01:20] <ponci> soory, im 10 y/o...can you guide me
#183 [01:20] <Elystus> Ponci: open note pad
#184 [01:21] <Elystus> copy and paste this: java -Xincgc -Xmx1024M -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame > log.txt
#185 [01:21] <Elystus> then save note pad as report.bat
#186 [01:21] <Elystus> After you have done that, then run the bat file you just created.
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#188 [01:22] <Liam_> testtest
#189 [01:22] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Notepad defaults to saving it as report.bat.txt
#190 [01:22] <Liam_> hi, could i ask a question about my minecraft?
#191 [01:22] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: sure
#192 [01:23] <ponci> notepad saved...how can i run that sir?
#193 [01:23] <Jake> DiskDaemon: it helped a little bit but its still lagging a little
#194 [01:24] <Elystus> Jake, the mod? or changing the settings?
#195 [01:24] <DiskDaemon> Jake: This is why getting better hardware for yout graphics card is about the best answer
#196 [01:24] <Jake> Elystus: the setting
#197 [01:24] <Elystus> Jake try the mod.
#198 [01:25] <Jake> DiskDaemon: ok can i just buy one and install it or do i have to get a new computer?
#199 [01:25] <DiskDaemon> Do you ahve a desktop or laptop computer?
#200 [01:25] <Jake> Elystus: ok what does it do?
#201 [01:26] <DiskDaemon> With a desktop computer, they can be bought and installed
#202 [01:26] <Jake> laptop
#203 [01:26] <Jake> oh..
#204 [01:26] <DiskDaemon> Jake: You're stuck with what your laptop is capable of doing then, until you replace it
#205 [01:26] <Elystus> It makes minecraft run with higher fps, and smooths it out.
#206 [01:26] <Elystus> Other than getting a desktop, the mod is the only thing I can suggest,
#207 [01:27] <Liam_> my minecraft keeps black screening no matter what i do. this started after i installed a java update so i could install a mod called cape craft. so, i deleted my minecraft bin and forced an update. still didnt work. i deleted the ENTIRE minecraft folder and forced an update and it still didnt work. one thing that was weird was that when i opened my mcpatcher, it said it couldnt find my minecraft. i redownloaded minecraft from minecraft.net and and forc
#208 [01:27] <Jake> ok and i was saving up for an alienware.. are those more compatible?
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#210 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: Let's start from afresh then
#211 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> ??> Liam_ win/reinst
#212 [01:28] <VoxelHead> Liam_: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#213 [01:28] <VoxelHead> Liam_: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#214 [01:28] <Liam_> im running a mac though
#215 [01:28] <Elystus> Jake: I would not do aienware, they are overpriced.
#216 [01:28] <Elystus> alienware*
#217 [01:29] <Liam_> also, for some reason when i go to the area where my minecraft folder is found, its not there.
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#219 [01:29] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: is that when you follow those above instructions?
#220 [01:30] <Liam_> yes
#221 [01:30] <Liam_> i have done that many times but it still shows a black screen
#222 [01:30] <ManoDuarte> Hi. I've recently bought minecraft and it's running with really low FPS, altought I have an i7-2640M, 6Gb RAM and a dedicated graphics card Radeon 6630M 1Gb. I don't know what to do. OptiFine mod helps but it isn't 100%.
#223 [01:30] <langkid1> omg black scrrns!
#224 [01:30] <Liam_> but remember, im running a mac
#225 [01:31] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: Let's get an error report then. Follow the updated instructions for getting an error report from http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Windows
#226 [01:31] <langkid1> he said mac...
#227 [01:31] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: Okay, differnt instructions
#228 [01:31] <DiskDaemon> ??> Liam_ mac/reinst
#229 [01:31] <VoxelHead> Liam_: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#230 [01:31] <VoxelHead> Liam_: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#231 [01:31] <Jake> Elystus: its ok its a little over 1,000 and right now im at 900 so ill just do some more work to get the money. but money isnt the issue for me, do you think it would be more compatible for minecraft?
#232 [01:32] <Liam_> but thats what i have done many times. now that i redownloaded minecraft i can even find the minecraft folder. its just not there even if i force an update.
#233 [01:33] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: Sadly, I know very little about macs
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#235 [01:33] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: You can get a crash report though by following these instructions http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX
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#237 [01:34] <Elystus> Jake: It should run better. Though sometimes there are complications with new pcs. Though almost all of thee complications can be fixed.
#238 [01:35] <Jake> ok thank you, now my next question is how do i make a multiplayer server?
#239 [01:35] <Elystus> Jake: Also, I would sugget an XPS. They are cheaper than alienwares.
#240 [01:35] <Liam_> but you see, the problem is that the minecraft folder isnt even there, i go to application support and its not there even though i forced an update
#241 [01:35] <Elystus> Jake: Well first, see if you can port forward. Setting up the server is easy. Port forwarding is the hard part.
#242 [01:35] <DiskDaemon> Liam_: Then something odd is going on with your mac, that I am unable to help you with
#243 [01:36] <YELLOW13> help when i download Minecraft.exe on the download page the client opens and i keep on getting a grey screen with these words <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Loading update news..</center></font></body></html> help please
#244 [01:36] <DiskDaemon> Now excuse me, but I have to head off for dinner
#245 [01:36] <Jake> what is port forwarding?
#246 [01:36] <Elystus> Cya Disk.
#247 [01:36] <Elystus> Jake: portforward.com
#248 [01:36] <Elystus> I can help you in a bit Jake.
#249 [01:36] <DiskDaemon> ??> YELLOW13 java/ipv6
#250 [01:36] <VoxelHead> YELLOW13: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#251 [01:36] <Jake> haha ok
#252 [01:36] <VoxelHead> YELLOW13: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#253 [01:37] <YELLOW13> how do i do that?
#254 [01:37] <Elystus> Yellow13: are you able to login?
#255 [01:37] <YELLOW13> yes
#256 [01:37] <Liam_> its not my mac at all because my mac is fine, its maybe something with java except the part where the minecraft folder isnt even there
#257 [01:37] <Elystus> Hmmm... I do niot know if this will work, but do you have avg Yellow13?
#258 [01:38] <YELLOW13> i can log in but when i go to the download page and download Minecraft .exe then open it i get a grey screen with taht error. and no i dont have AVG
#259 [01:38] <Elystus> Sorry, I mean can you download through the launcher?
#260 [01:38] <YELLOW13> YES
#261 [01:38] <YELLOW13> oh
#262 [01:38] <YELLOW13> sorry
#263 [01:38] <YELLOW13> caps
#264 [01:38] <Elystus> Oh try not to press enter to much ;)
#265 [01:39] <YELLOW13> it will go Logging in..... and then i get an error <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>
#266 [01:39] <Scott> Liam_: I can probably help you
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#268 [01:39] <YELLOW13> Cannot Connect to minecraft.net
#269 [01:39] <Scott> But you'll have to tell me what's wrong
#270 [01:39] <YELLOW13> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>
#271 [01:39] <Liam_> you can?
#272 [01:39] <Elystus> Yellow, stop posting it.
#273 [01:39] <YELLOW13> sorry
#274 [01:39] <YELLOW13> my bad
#275 [01:40] <YELLOW13> i've tried redownloading Java, nothing worked
#276 [01:40] <Scott> Liam_: well tell me the problem
#277 [01:40] <Elystus> The only thing that I can think is that maybe your anti-virus is blocking it.
#278 [01:40] <YELLOW13> i cant Activate my Mcaffe
#279 [01:40] <YELLOW13> so i cant use my firewall
#280 [01:40] <Elystus> Liam_ is getting a black screen if I remember correctly.
#281 [01:40] <Liam_> my minecraft keeps black screening no matter what i do. this started after i installed a java update so i could install a mod called cape craft. so, i deleted my minecraft bin and forced an update. still didnt work. i deleted the ENTIRE minecraft folder and forced an update and it still didnt work. one thing that was weird was that when i opened my mcpatcher, it said it couldnt find my minecraft. i redownloaded minecraft from minecraft.net and and forc
#282 [01:41] <Scott> Liam_: What java update?
#283 [01:41] <Elystus> Yellow13 there is a windows firewall. Try adding an exception for the launcher to it.
#284 [01:41] <Scott> Elystus: did you make sure it's not trying to use ipv6?
#285 [01:41] <YELLOW13> how do i do that....
#286 [01:41] <YELLOW13> sorry..
#287 [01:41] <Elystus> It could be.
#288 [01:41] <Elystus> New plan.
#289 [01:41] <Liam_> java jdk7 for mac
#290 [01:41] <Scott> That's the error that appears when it's trying to use ipv6.
#291 [01:41] <Scott> Liam_: I don't think that Mojang is supporting JDK 7 yet.
#292 [01:41] <YELLOW13> My firewall says i can only make changes when i buy mcaffe
#293 [01:42] <YELLOW13> but i dont want to
#294 [01:42] <Liam_> hmm
#295 [01:42] <Scott> Let's test something though.
#296 [01:42] <Elystus> Yellow13 do this: Press start and right click on computer
#297 [01:42] <Scott> Press command + spacebar and type Java and then open Java Preferences
#298 [01:42] <YELLOW13> done
#299 [01:42] <Elystus> Yellow13: then press properties, and go to advanced settings
#300 [01:42] <YELLOW13> ok
#301 [01:42] <YELLOW13> done
#302 [01:43] <Liam_> weird because on the video i watched the person installed it and then install the capecraft mod and he said if u didnt install jdk 7 minecraft would black screen
#303 [01:43] <Scott> Liam_: Do you see what I have highlighted here? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9631803/Screenshots/3_xo.png
#304 [01:43] <Elystus> now click on enviroment variables
#305 [01:43] <Liam_> oh, and also, the minecraft folder is not in the application support folder for some reason
#306 [01:44] <Scott> Please just answer my questions for now
#307 [01:44] <Elystus> Yellow13: do you have 32 or 64 bit?
#308 [01:44] <YELLOW13> i'm pretty sure im 64 bit
#309 [01:44] <YELLOW13> my computer model is DELL XPS 14Z
#310 [01:44] <Liam_> ok, i looked at the link
#311 [01:44] <Scott> That tell us nothing about the architecture :P
#312 [01:45] <Scott> Did you do what I said and open that window?
#313 [01:45] <Liam_> yes
#314 [01:45] <Scott> Okay, do you see Java SE 6 64-bit like I have highlighted?
#315 [01:45] <Liam_> yes
#316 [01:45] <Scott> Is it at the top of the list?
#317 [01:45] <Elystus> Yellow13: now leave the window you just opened (enviroment variables) alone for a minute. press start again and left click on it, do you see a folder named program files (x86)?
#318 [01:45] <Liam_> yes
#319 [01:45] <Scott> Okay.
#320 [01:45] <Scott> Do you see JDK 7?
#321 [01:45] <Liam_> no
#322 [01:46] <Elystus> left click on computer*
#323 [01:46] <Scott> Liam_: press command + spacebar again and type Terminal and press enter
#324 [01:46] <Scott> A new window should appear
#325 [01:46] <Scott> I need you to type java -version in it
#326 [01:46] <YELLOW13> so dont do anything for a minute
#327 [01:46] <Scott> and tell me what it says
#328 [01:47] <Liam_> java version "1.6.0_29" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_29-b11-402-11D50d) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.4-b02-402, mixed mode)
#329 [01:47] <Elystus> No, worded that oddly. So can you press start and left click on computer?
#330 [01:47] <Scott> Okay so you don't have JDK 7 installed or it's not being used anyways.
#331 [01:47] <Liam_> maybe its not the java...
#332 [01:47] <Scott> and java 6 is out of date
#333 [01:48] <Scott> Press the Apple menu in the top left and click software update
#334 [01:48] <YELLOW13> wait i dont see any folders Elystus just abunch of system variable
#335 [01:48] <Scott> it will check for updates, tell me if it finds any
#336 [01:48] <Elystus> Yellow13: okay, close the window you are in, we will go back to it.
#337 [01:48] <Liam_> like i said before the minecraft folder wasnt in the application support folder though even if i forced an update
#338 [01:48] <Elystus> later
#339 [01:49] <YELLOW13> what window
#340 [01:49] <Liam_> could that be the problem?
#341 [01:49] <Scott> Liam_: Is it checking for updates?
#342 [01:49] <Liam_> yes
#343 [01:49] <Scott> Okay leave that be until it's finished.
#344 [01:49] <Scott> Open a Finder window and press Command + Shift + G
#345 [01:49] <Scott> Copy and paste this in the pop up: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#346 [01:49] <Scott> then press Go
#347 [01:50] <YELLOW13> wait what window? the environment window or this one?
#348 [01:50] <Scott> tell me what happens
#349 [01:50] <Elystus> enviroment one
#350 [01:50] <YELLOW13> ok
#351 [01:50] <Elystus> close all that stuff, we will go back to that later.
#352 [01:50] <YELLOW13> even this window
#353 [01:50] <Elystus> No, just the enviroment stuff.
#354 [01:50] <YELLOW13> -.- oh....
#355 [01:51] <Elystus> now in the other window, what do you see?
#356 [01:51] <YELLOW13> system properties
#357 [01:51] <Liam_> it comes to a folder with only a bin folder and a lastlogin text file
#358 [01:51] <YELLOW13> with all the tabs
#359 [01:51] <Scott> Then the minecraft folder does exist because you're in it :P
#360 [01:51] <Liam_> i am?
#361 [01:51] <Scott> Yes.
#362 [01:51] <Elystus> Yellow13: I said left click on computer :P
#363 [01:52] <YELLOW13> o
#364 [01:52] <Scott> Delete or move everything in the folder elsewhere
#365 [01:52] <Liam_> but wheres the texture packs folder, and the stats folder, and the screenshots folder, ect.
#366 [01:52] <YELLOW13> it just brings up my hard drive and DVD Rw drive
#367 [01:52] <Elystus> Now you should have an option named C:
#368 [01:52] <Elystus> Open that
#369 [01:52] <YELLOW13> so my hardrive
#370 [01:52] <YELLOW13> right?
#371 [01:52] <Elystus> yes
#372 [01:52] <YELLOW13> ok
#373 [01:52] <YELLOW13> done
#374 [01:53] <Scott> Has it finished checking for updates?
#375 [01:53] <Liam_> yes
#376 [01:53] <Elystus> Do you see a folder named program files(x86)?
#377 [01:53] <YELLOW13> i see a folder called
#378 [01:53] <YELLOW13> Programs Files (x86)
#379 [01:53] <Liam_> i accidentally closed it though :P
#380 [01:53] <Liam_> let me re open it
#381 [01:53] <Elystus> Okay open that, do you see a folder named java in there?
#382 [01:54] <YELLOW13> yes
#383 [01:54] <Elystus> open that now :)
#384 [01:54] <YELLOW13> ok
#385 [01:54] <YELLOW13> done
#386 [01:54] <YELLOW13> :P
#387 [01:54] <Elystus> what are the folders in there?
#388 [01:54] <YELLOW13> jr37
#389 [01:54] <YELLOW13> just 1
#390 [01:54] <Elystus> jr7?
#391 [01:54] <YELLOW13> jre7
#392 [01:54] <Elystus> okay
#393 [01:54] <YELLOW13> jre7
#394 [01:54] <YELLOW13> folder name
#395 [01:55] <Elystus> Hold on just a moment.
#396 [01:55] <YELLOW13> ok :P
#397 [01:55] <Liam_> ok, so should i install the updates and restart?
#398 [01:55] <Elystus> Okay now press start and RIGHT click on computer :)
#399 [01:55] <YELLOW13> ok
#400 [01:56] <Elystus> Go to advanced settings
#401 [01:56] <Elystus> and enviroment variables again.
#402 [01:56] <YELLOW13> Advanced Stystem settings right?
#403 [01:56] <YELLOW13> ok done
#404 [01:56] <Elystus> Under system Variables it will say new somewhere.
#405 [01:56] <Liam_> also. i opened minecraft and updated it after deleting the things in that folder u showed me and it still shows a black screen :/
#406 [01:56] <Elystus> click on that.
#407 [01:57] <YELLOW13> theres a "new"
#408 [01:57] <YELLOW13> button
#409 [01:57] <Elystus> yes click on that.
#410 [01:57] <Liam_> hello? scott?
#411 [01:57] <YELLOW13> there are three buttons under system variables "new" "edit" and "delete"
#412 [01:57] <YELLOW13> so i clikc on new
#413 [01:57] <Elystus> yes L)
#414 [01:57] <YELLOW13> kk sorry i juts got this new computer dont wanna break it lol
#415 [01:57] <Elystus> Now in the top line put Java7
#416 [01:58] <YELLOW13> kk
#417 [01:58] <YELLOW13> done
#418 [01:58] <Liam_> scott?
#419 [01:58] <Elystus> On the bottom line put C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7
#420 [01:58] <YELLOW13> just copy paste?
#421 [01:58] <Elystus> yes
#422 [01:58] <Scott> Liam_: yes, install updates and restart
#423 [01:58] <YELLOW13> this wont kill my computer right
#424 [01:58] <Scott> Then try to launch Minecraft again
#425 [01:58] <YELLOW13> or let people in it right
#426 [01:59] <Elystus> no it will not.
#427 [01:59] <YELLOW13> kk
#428 [01:59] <Scott> It will let little people the size of ants crawl in your computer at night and chew on the cables.
#429 [01:59] <YELLOW13> ok don
#430 [01:59] <YELLOW13> *done
#431 [01:59] <Elystus> Start minecraft and see if that fixed the issue.
#432 [01:59] <YELLOW13> kk
#433 [01:59] <YELLOW13> hang on a sec :P
#434 [02:00] <YELLOW13> no..
#435 [02:00] <YELLOW13> still the error
#436 [02:00] <Elystus> Arg :(
#437 [02:00] <YELLOW13> idk why
#438 [02:00] <YELLOW13> like when i download the Minecraft.exe
#439 [02:00] <YELLOW13> i open it
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#441 [02:00] <YELLOW13> and i get a grey screen with that error
#442 [02:00] <Liam_> ok. also. i deleted the things in the folder u navigated me to (the minecraft folder) and i deleted the things in it and forced an update on minecraft and tried to start it but it black screened again. :/ i'll install the updates then try though
#443 [02:01] <Elystus> ??> ELystus java/jre/7u1
#444 [02:01] <VoxelHead> ELystus: (java/jre/7u1) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-se-jre-7-download-432155.html
#445 [02:01] <YELLOW13> huh?
#446 [02:01] <Elystus> Not what I wanted :/
#447 [02:01] <YELLOW13> what am i supposed to do with that
#448 [02:01] <Elystus> nothing, that was a screw up on my part.
#449 [02:02] <YELLOW13> my minecraft works on my Desktop though
#450 [02:02] <Elystus> I know, it is an internal issue with just that computer.
#451 [02:02] <YELLOW13> o
#452 [02:02] <YELLOW13> Video Card issue?
#453 [02:02] <YELLOW13> or Graphics Card?
#454 [02:03] <Elystus> I still think it is java.
#455 [02:03] <YELLOW13> o ok
#456 [02:03] <Elystus> Uninstall java and downgrade to java 6
#457 [02:03] <YELLOW13> how do i downgrade
#458 [02:03] <Elystus> I can give you a link once you have uninstalled it.
#459 [02:04] <YELLOW13> kk
#460 [02:04] <YELLOW13> wait
#461 [02:04] <YELLOW13> so to uninstal i just go to control pannel
#462 [02:04] <YELLOW13> and just uninstall it
#463 [02:04] <Elystus> yes :)
#464 [02:04] <YELLOW13> ok thanks :P
#465 [02:05] <YELLOW13> hang on a sec :P
#466 [02:05] <YELLOW13> ok doen
#467 [02:05] <YELLOW13> uninstalled JAVA
#468 [02:05] <Elystus> ??> Yellow13 java/jre6u29
#469 [02:05] <VoxelHead> Yellow13: (java/jre6u29) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#470 [02:06] <Elystus> download that :)
#471 [02:06] <YELLOW13> kk
#472 [02:06] <YELLOW13> wait
#473 [02:06] <YELLOW13> im confused D:
#474 [02:07] <YELLOW13> i clicked on the link
#475 [02:07] <YELLOW13> whhich one do i download
#476 [02:07] <YELLOW13> like theres an accept licencse agreement
#477 [02:07] <YELLOW13> and decline
#478 [02:08] <Elystus> click accept, then windows x64
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#480 [02:08] <Elystus> is the choice you want.
#481 [02:08] <YELLOW13> the last one right?
#482 [02:08] <Elystus> yes
#483 [02:08] <YELLOW13> Windows X64
#484 [02:08] <YELLOW13> kk
#485 [02:08] <YELLOW13> by downgrading my JAva if a game i paly requires an update i wont beable to play that game right?
#486 [02:09] <YELLOW13> ok don
#487 [02:09] <Elystus> You should be able to.
#488 [02:09] <YELLOW13> done
#489 [02:09] <Elystus> did you run it?
#490 [02:09] <YELLOW13> run wut
#491 [02:09] <YELLOW13> MC?
#492 [02:09] <Elystus> the file you just downloaded.
#493 [02:10] <YELLOW13> Java download finished
#494 [02:10] <Elystus> you have to run it now, so that it can install.
#495 [02:10] <YELLOW13> wiat... what.... i just clicked the file the Java thing came up then trhe JAva window popped up it downloaded and i closed it
#496 [02:11] <Elystus> Why did you close it?
#497 [02:11] <YELLOW13> no like it already installed
#498 [02:11] <Elystus> Oh really?
#499 [02:11] <YELLOW13> well i can download again
#500 [02:11] <YELLOW13> juts to make sure
#501 [02:11] <Elystus> No need. we can test it
#502 [02:11] <YELLOW13> kk
#503 [02:11] <YELLOW13> so run minecraft?
#504 [02:12] <Elystus> No, go to control panel and uninstall a program. If it shows up there then it is installed.
#505 [02:12] <YELLOW13> kk
#506 [02:12] <Elystus> But do NOT uninstall it.
#507 [02:12] <YELLOW13> kk
#508 [02:13] <YELLOW13> Yep its there Java (TM) 6 update 29 (64bit)
#509 [02:13] <Elystus> okay it installed :) \o/
#510 [02:13] <Elystus> Now run minecraft! :D
#511 [02:13] <YELLOW13> kk woot :D
#512 [02:14] <YELLOW13> OMG
#513 [02:14] <YELLOW13> YES
#514 [02:14] <YELLOW13> IT WORKED
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#516 [02:14] <YELLOW13> thank you!!!
#517 [02:14] * Elystus o/\o YELLOW13
#517 [02:14] <YELLOW13> so how can i start minecraft
#518 [02:14] <YELLOW13> with out going to the website
#519 [02:14] <Elystus> Your welcome :)
#520 [02:14] <YELLOW13> each time
#521 [02:14] <Elystus> download the client
#522 [02:14] <YELLOW13> Minecraft . exe?
#523 [02:14] <Elystus> yes
#524 [02:15] <YELLOW13> i did the log in screen is already there
#525 [02:15] <YELLOW13> lol Minecraft.exe (29)
#526 [02:15] <YELLOW13> lol
#527 [02:15] <Elystus> then there is no need to go to minecraft.net to play if you have the launcher.
#528 [02:15] <YELLOW13> log in failed?!
#529 [02:15] <Elystus> What! :O
#530 [02:15] <YELLOW13> oops
#531 [02:15] <YELLOW13> wrong user
#532 [02:15] <YELLOW13> that was my Xbox live lol
#533 [02:16] <Elystus> Oh, I was thinking we had another issue to fix.
#534 [02:16] <YELLOW13> lol
#535 [02:16] <YELLOW13> ITS WORKING
#536 [02:16] <YELLOW13> lol
#537 [02:16] <YELLOW13> wiat my acount was migrated so i lolg in with my email
#538 [02:17] <YELLOW13> So is that the onlyway to log in if my accont is migrated?
#539 [02:18] <YELLOW13> hello?
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#541 [02:19] <Elystus> Sorry, back
#542 [02:19] <YELLOW13> lol
#543 [02:19] <YELLOW13> what does it mean if ur account is migrated
#544 [02:19] <YELLOW13> cause i have to log in with my email
#545 [02:19] <Elystus> Yes, that is the only way. But you can tick the remember button.
#546 [02:19] <YELLOW13> ok
#547 [02:19] <YELLOW13> another question sorry lol
#548 [02:19] <YELLOW13> how can i get a dircect MC short cut?
#549 [02:19] <Elystus> Yellow13: all migrated accounts are kept on a new system where the security is better.
#550 [02:20] <YELLOW13> o ok
#551 [02:20] <Elystus> Just move it to the desktop
#552 [02:20] <YELLOW13> how?
#553 [02:20] <Elystus> drag it from downloads to the desktop.
#554 [02:20] <YELLOW13> ?
#555 [02:20] <Elystus> Do you want a shortcut on the desktop?
#556 [02:20] <YELLOW13> yea
#557 [02:20] <Elystus> Just move the client you downloaded.
#558 [02:21] <Elystus> it doesn't need to stay there, you can move it.
#559 [02:21] <YELLOW13> the client will only open when i download Minecraft.exe
#560 [02:21] <YELLOW13> when i close it the window disapears
#561 [02:22] <Elystus> minecraft.exe is the client
#562 [02:22] <YELLOW13> yea
#563 [02:22] <Elystus> Do you mean so that you do not have to login?
#564 [02:22] <YELLOW13> no
#565 [02:22] <YELLOW13> i found it lol
#566 [02:22] <YELLOW13> on my desktop now
#567 [02:22] <YELLOW13> lol
#568 [02:22] <YELLOW13> thanks
#569 [02:23] <Elystus> Okay...No idea how I helped... But you're welcome.
#570 [02:23] <Elystus> :)
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#572 [02:23] <YELLOW13> lol
#573 [02:23] <Liam_> test
#574 [02:23] <YELLOW13> thanks!
#575 [02:23] <Liam_> ok, i installed everything
#576 [02:23] <YELLOW13> so if i wanna multiplayer i can juts add a server right?
#577 [02:24] <Liam_> and i still get a black screen
#578 [02:24] <Elystus> Yes :)
#579 [02:24] <YELLOW13> o how do i download texture packs>
#580 [02:24] <YELLOW13> it looks really complicated online
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#582 [02:26] <Liam_> when i do that command+shift+G to get to minecraft, why does it only show bin and lastlogin, not everything else? also, why does it not even show up in the application support? i am so confused! it still black screens!
#583 [02:26] <Elystus> Scott...
#584 [02:26] <Elystus> I need you man...
#585 [02:27] <Elystus> I need you to help Liam_
#586 [02:27] <YELLOW13> Is there a SAFE website where i can download a texture pack?
#587 [02:28] <Elystus> Almost all of them are safe. You can look at planetminecraft.com or minecraftforums.com
#588 [02:28] <Elystus> .net*
#589 [02:28] <YELLOW13> kk
#590 [02:28] <YELLOW13> thanks
#591 [02:28] <Elystus> planetminecraft.com and minecraftforums.net
#592 [02:28] <YELLOW13> wait what do u mean almost all of them are safe lol
#593 [02:29] <Elystus> I mean the larger ones with more than one user/account.
#594 [02:29] <YELLOW13> o
#595 [02:29] <Liam_> can i get some help?
#596 [02:30] <Elystus> Liam_, I can try.
#597 [02:30] <Liam_> ok
#598 [02:30] <Elystus> You are black screening correct?
#599 [02:30] <Liam_> yes
#600 [02:30] <YELLOW13> well thanks for the help Elystus
#601 [02:30] <YELLOW13> im gonna go play minecraft now!
#602 [02:30] <Elystus> Cya Yellow13
#603 [02:30] <YELLOW13> thanks man!
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#605 [02:30] <Elystus> Lets try and generate a crash report.
#606 [02:30] <Liam_> ok
#607 [02:32] <Liam_> wat do u mean by crash report?
#608 [02:32] <Elystus> So we can tell what is going wrong
#609 [02:32] <Liam_> ok
#610 [02:32] <Liam_> how do i do that?
#611 [02:33] <Elystus> https://github.com/downloads/pclewis/mcpatcher/mcpatcher-2.3.7_02.exe
#612 [02:33] <Elystus> Download that, and then start it.
#613 [02:33] <Elystus> once it comes up, then click test minecraft,
#614 [02:33] <Liam_> i have a mac
#615 [02:34] <Elystus> >_> hold on.
#616 [02:34] <Liam_> if its mcpatcher, i already have it
#617 [02:34] <Elystus> Keep forgetting, I am a pc person.
#618 [02:34] <Elystus> https://github.com/downloads/pclewis/mcpatcher/mcpatcher-2.3.7_02.jar
#619 [02:34] <Elystus> Oh!
#620 [02:34] <Elystus> Start that and click on test minecraft.
#621 [02:35] <Elystus> then post the report on pastebin.cm
#622 [02:35] <Elystus> pastebin.com*
#623 [02:35] <Liam_> it says it cant find minecraft
#624 [02:35] <Liam_> i was trying to tell scott that earlier
#625 [02:35] <Liam_> the minecraft folder isnt in the application support folder either
#626 [02:35] <Elystus> Try the newer one that I just linked... that may work.
#627 [02:35] <Elystus> It isn't?
#628 [02:36] <Liam_> ya
#629 [02:36] * Elystus just go his mind exploded
#629 [02:36] <Liam_> even if i redownload or force an update
#630 [02:36] <Elystus> Okay there is another way we can try.
#631 [02:36] <Liam_> ok
#632 [02:36] <Elystus> Go to Macintosh HD/Applications/Utilities and open Console.app
#633 [02:36] <Necrodoom> C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft doesnt exist?
#634 [02:36] <Necrodoom> nvm
#635 [02:38] <Liam_> ok
#636 [02:38] <Liam_> i opened the console
#637 [02:38] <Elystus> now run minecraft
#638 [02:39] <Elystus> hopefully when it crashes it should create an error report.
#639 [02:40] <Liam_> it ran specifications.minecraft.minecraft a lot
#640 [02:40] <Liam_> and it says an error on the first two
#641 [02:41] <Liam_> something about invalid context
#642 [02:41] <Elystus> could you pastebin it?
#643 [02:42] <Liam_> ?
#644 [02:42] <Elystus> ??> Liam_ pastebin
#645 [02:42] <VoxelHead> Liam_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#647 [02:45] <Liam_> ummm
#648 [02:45] <Liam_> its a lot of stuff
#649 [02:45] <Elystus> ITs fine, I have time :)
#650 [02:45] <Liam_> it might take a while to paste into irc even after pastebin
#651 [02:46] <Liam_> i mean like 60 lines
#652 [02:46] <Elystus> Thats nothing lol.
#653 [02:46] <Elystus> Just post it on pastebin.com
#654 [02:46] <Elystus> hit submit and give me the link
#655 [02:47] <Liam_> http://pastebin.com/NEtexm9H
#656 [02:48] <Elystus> I have no idea O.o I think it would have to do with the placement of your minecraft folder though.
#657 [02:48] <Elystus> I tried, but I suck with Macs.
#658 [02:48] <Liam_> ok
#659 [02:48] <Liam_> hmmmm
#660 [02:48] <Liam_> the only part is that i dont know where the minecraft folder is
#661 [02:50] <Liam_> when i do what scott says and do command+shift+G and enter the stuff to go there, it takes me to minecraft but theres only a bin and a lastlogin text file and if i delete it and force an update it still does a black screen
#662 [02:50] <Liam_> and when i go back to application support, it doesnt show minecraft
#663 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Something's blocking your computer from downloading minecraft
#664 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Any security software? Any firewall installed?
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#666 [02:51] <GreyVulpine> Anything that may be preventing java or minecraft from contacting the CDN of minecraft?
#667 [02:52] <Liam_> you know, i did see some code in the console with the cleanmymac right before minecraft was doing the stuff in the console
#668 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Share it with us via pastebin.com?
#669 [02:52] <Liam_> ok
#670 [02:52] <GreyVulpine> Scott's the mac person, but I can try taking a look
#671 [02:54] <Liam_> http://pastebin.com/ygi4zdcz
#672 [02:54] <Liam_> there you go
#673 [02:56] <Scott> Liam_: If you want, we can use Teamviewer.
#674 [02:56] <Scott> It's a lot quicker.
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#676 [02:56] <Liam__> srry i left, my google chrome screwed up
#677 [02:57] <Elystus> Scott wants to use Teamviewer
#678 [02:57] <Elystus> it will be quicker
#679 [02:57] <Liam__> teamviewer?
#680 [02:57] <Elystus> ??> Liam__ Teamviewer
#681 [02:57] <VoxelHead> Liam__: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#682 [02:57] <VoxelHead> Liam__: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#683 [02:58] <Liam__> ok
#684 [02:58] <Liam__> im downloading it atm
#685 [02:58] <Scott> You don't need the full version
#686 [02:58] <Scott> You only need http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS.dmg
#687 [02:59] <Liam__> thats what im downloading
#688 [02:59] <Scott> ok
#689 [02:59] <Scott> PM me the ID and password once you get it opened
#690 [02:59] <Elystus> make sure not to post any of it publicly
#691 [02:59] <Liam__> ok
#692 [02:59] <Liam__> how do i pm you?
#693 [03:00] <Elystus> it is /msg Scott
#694 [03:00] <Liam__> did that work?
#695 [03:00] <Scott> yes.
#696 [03:01] <Scott> And please don't start moving the cursor or press any buttons after I connect unless I ask you to.
#697 [03:02] <Liam__> ok
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#699 [03:03] <Scott> Well your ID and password would be handy.
#700 [03:03] * Scott waits
#700 [03:03] * Elystus gives Scott some string for the wait
#700 [03:04] <Liam__> do i have to sign up?
#701 [03:04] <Liam__> to get a username?
#702 [03:04] <Liam__> i set the pass when it was going through the install
#703 [03:05] <Scott> You did not download the right thing then...
#704 [03:05] <Elystus> You downloaded the full version
#705 [03:05] <Scott> You downloaded the full version, not the quick support version.
#706 [03:05] * Scott sighs.
#706 [03:05] <Scott> It is 02:05, I have little patience. :(
#707 [03:06] * DiskDaemon returns from dinner
#707 [03:06] <Scott> I think I'll go feed my cat and find myself a snack.
#708 [03:06] <Elystus> DiskDaemon... stuff went down while you were gone.
#709 [03:06] <Elystus> Well, not really.
#710 [03:06] <DiskDaemon> I'll quickly scan the scrollback
#711 [03:07] <Elystus> I pretty much failed at setting up an enviroment variable. Then said screw it and reverted hi to java 6.
#712 [03:07] <Elystus> DIdn't miss much.
#713 [03:08] <Liam__> im so confused with teamviewer
#714 [03:08] <Liam__> now i have to set up a computer?
#715 [03:08] <Liam__> i signed up
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#717 [03:11] <Liam__> ok, i got the qs teamviewer
#718 [03:12] <Liam__> now wat?
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#720 [03:12] <Liam__> could someone please reply
#721 [03:13] <Elystus> sorry, back
#722 [03:13] <Elystus> Scott should be back soon.
#723 [03:13] <Liam__> i got qs teamviewer, now wat?
#724 [03:14] <Elystus> When Scott gets back, just give him the id and pass.
#725 [03:14] <Liam__> how do i get an id and pass? just make one?
#726 [03:15] <Elystus> once you have launched the qs program, it should show you a id and pass.
#727 [03:15] <Liam__> ohhhhh
#728 [03:15] <Liam__> i see it
#729 [03:17] <Scott> send me the info
#730 [03:17] <Liam__> :D
#731 [03:19] <Liam__> wat the
#732 [03:19] <Liam__> it didnt send
#733 [03:19] <Liam__> hmm
#734 [03:19] <Liam__> redo
#735 [03:19] <Elystus> the command is /msg Scott
#736 [03:19] <Scott> did you close it?
#737 [03:19] <Elystus> just incase you do not remember
#738 [03:19] <Scott> because it won't connect...
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#740 [03:20] <Liam__> its still open
#741 [03:20] <Scott> authentication rejected
#742 [03:21] <Scott> It's probably because you installed the full version.
#743 [03:21] <Liam__> no, i got teamviewerQS
#744 [03:21] <Liam__> oops
#745 [03:21] <Liam__> teamviewer was open not teamviewerQS
#746 [03:22] <Necrodoom> watching this is painful.
#747 [03:23] <Elystus> Taking my pain meds 2 hours late is painful ;-;
#748 [03:23] <Scott> I did not take valium tonight.
#749 [03:23] <Liam__> that should work
#750 [03:23] <Scott> nope
#751 [03:23] <Scott> auth rejected
#752 [03:23] <Liam__> :/
#753 [03:24] <Elystus> I am on 5-6 diffrent pain meds right now. Its annoying.
#754 [03:24] <Liam__> im opening teamviewerQS
#755 [03:24] <Liam__> thats wat it shows me
#756 [03:24] <Scott> teamviewer is probably running in the background.
#757 [03:24] <Scott> Valium makes me sleepy and I don't sleep much these days.
#758 [03:25] <Liam__> try now
#759 [03:25] <DiskDaemon> I'm constant amazed and worried that everyone needs to medicate themselves to function, whereas I don't
#760 [03:25] <Elystus> DiskDaemon... I just had a major surgery.
#761 [03:25] <Scott> I got 30 pills a couple days after my mom died.
#762 [03:25] <Scott> That was in late march.
#763 [03:25] <DiskDaemon> ahh, I hope the healing goes well
#764 [03:25] <Scott> I still have 12.
#765 [03:26] <Liam__> im sorry that your mom died.
#766 [03:26] <Elystus> Yea, that is why I have been saying stuff weird recently. I cannot think as well on all of these medications.
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#768 [03:27] <Scott> well i finished my broccoli salad.
#769 [03:27] <Scott> time for oreos and silk.
#770 [03:27] <Liam__> scott, did it work now?
#771 [03:28] <Scott> no.
#772 [03:28] <Liam__> :(
#773 [03:28] <Liam__> darn
#774 [03:29] <Liam__> oh
#775 [03:29] <Liam__> maybe it was because i was logged in
#776 [03:30] <Liam__> there
#777 [03:30] <Liam__> maybe that will work
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#780 [03:33] <Liam__> scott, did the new info work? i logged out of my teamviewer account
#781 [03:33] <nosebreaker> Hello! I'm having trouble updating minecraft. I get a fatal error (4) when retrieving lwjgl.jar
#782 [03:33] <Elystus> Have you tried a force update?
#783 [03:33] <Scott> no.
#784 [03:34] <DiskDaemon> nosebreaker: That will be your antivirus program incorrectly blocking some of the files
#785 [03:34] <DiskDaemon> Temporarily disable your antivirus program, and try again
#786 [03:34] <nosebreaker> DiskDaemon: I'll try it. One second...
#787 [03:35] <Liam__> ok, well i guess teamviewer isnt going to work.
#788 [03:35] <Elystus> If you have AVG, all you will need to do is disable the link scanning module.
#789 [03:35] <Liam__> is there any other suggestions?
#790 [03:35] <nosebreaker> Yep. There it goes. Thanks!
#791 [03:35] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#792 [03:35] <nosebreaker> Disable Link scanning module? where do I do that?
#793 [03:36] <DiskDaemon> good question
#794 [03:36] * DiskDaemon looks at Elystus
#794 [03:36] <Elystus> open AVG
#795 [03:36] <Elystus> On the front page it should say linkscanner
#796 [03:37] <nosebreaker> I have to open it? I can't do it with my mind?
#797 [03:38] <nosebreaker> Thanks Elystus and DiskDaemon! I'll play around with AVG and see if I can simply make an exception to minecraft before outright disabling linkscanner
#798 [03:38] <Elystus> Click link scanner, and uncheck the options that say: "Enable AVG Search-Shield”, “AVG Active Surf-Shield”
#799 [03:38] <Elystus> or there may even just be a diable button on that page.
#800 [03:39] <DiskDaemon> I wouldn't use an exception, because that then opens up a guaranteed weakness in your protection
#801 [03:39] <nosebreaker> Wouldn't disabling the scanner leave me open as well?
#802 [03:39] <Liam__> i have to go cuz its late for me, so goodbye
#803 [03:39] <Elystus> cya Liam
#804 [03:40] <DiskDaemon> this is why I advise to just temporarily disable things
#805 [03:40] <Elystus> nosebreaker, just disable it during minecraft updates
#806 [03:40] <nosebreaker> I guess that's easiest.
#807 [03:41] <nosebreaker> Thanks again! I'm off to dig a hole. have a good night all!
#808 [03:41] <Elystus> I think that Mojang is trying to tell AVG to add the links to the list of accepted links.
#809 [03:41] <Elystus> Night.
#810 [03:41] <Elystus> I saw Marc Tweeting at them.
#811 [03:42] <Scott> I don't know why people even use AVG.
#812 [03:42] <Elystus> Its free.
#813 [03:43] <Scott> So is MSE.
#814 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> Microsoft Security Essentials is also free
#815 [03:43] <Necrodoom> so is avast
#816 [03:43] <Necrodoom> and norton
#817 [03:43] <DiskDaemon> and even though I don't like saying MS do good things, that's one of them
#818 [03:44] <Scott> that would be MSE
#819 [03:44] <Elystus> \o/ MS does one thing right! Call the Newspapers.
#820 [03:44] * Elystus watches the daily show
#820 [03:46] <Scott> I'm watching Shameless season 5.
#821 [03:49] <DiskDaemon> I'm harvesting sand in Minecraft
#822 [03:50] <Elystus> DiskDaemon.. make a roof out of sand.
#823 [03:50] <Elystus> how do you do it without crafting sandbrick.
#824 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> Normally you can't. You can hack it in with a map editor, but any block update around it will cause it to call
#825 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> *fall
#826 [03:51] <Elystus> You failed.. I am sorry
#827 [03:52] <Elystus> You put torches on the wall, and put sand on the torches.
#828 [03:52] <Elystus> 2xwhatever roof.
#829 [03:52] <Elystus> I don't know why I thought of that... maybe I am just getting tired.
#830 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, I'm too used to torches breakng up falling sand from this harvesting
#831 [03:53] <Elystus> lol
#832 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> how do you get more than an outer ring of roofing using that technique?
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#834 [03:57] <Elystus> I can show you.
#835 [03:57] <DiskDaemon> a screenshot?
#836 [03:57] <frogmella> I'm going nuts... Good Ol' Can't connect to Minecraft.net... Reinstalled game 5 times atleast... Completely wiped and reinstalled Java... Reset modem... Turned off firewall/antivirus... Im stumped.
#837 [03:57] <Elystus> calm down, we will solve the issue.
#838 [03:57] <Elystus> Now, can you login through the browser?
#839 [03:57] <frogmella> Havn't tried that... one sec.
#840 [03:58] <frogmella> Yes... It does... It lets me connect to MP servers and logs-in.
#841 [03:59] <Elystus> So only the client doe not work?
#842 [03:59] <Elystus> client* does*
#843 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> my money is on ipv6
#844 [03:59] <frogmella> I suppose... I don't know why... Since I've reinstalled it over 9000 times.
#845 [04:00] <Elystus> ^
#846 [04:00] <Elystus> Do you have java 7?
#847 [04:00] <frogmella> Yes.
#848 [04:00] <frogmella> Fresh install...
#849 [04:00] <Elystus> Disk wanna downgrade or what?
#850 [04:00] <frogmella> "Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 7 Update 5)."
#851 [04:00] <frogmella> I need to downgrade it?
#852 [04:00] <Necrodoom> yes, to version 6
#853 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: No downgrading, let's fix the problem instead
#854 [04:00] <Elystus> that is one way to fix the issue.
#855 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: going backwards is not a solution
#856 [04:01] <Elystus> Disk, I cannot remember how to do the other way.
#857 [04:01] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: oh
#858 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> We don't even KNOW yet that it is the cause of the problem
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#860 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> frogmella: When you run the Minecraft launcher, do you see anything strange in the upper part of it?
#861 [04:01] <frogmella> No.
#862 [04:01] <frogmella> But the login is black on the lower half.
#863 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> It's not the IPv6 issue then
#864 [04:02] <frogmella> Basically some dirt texture is missing.
#865 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> What is the error message that you actually get?
#866 [04:02] <frogmella> Can't connect to minecraft.net
#867 [04:02] <frogmella> I have to choose Play offline... Then I can't connect to my own server/other mp ones...
#868 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> What happens with you go to this link?
#869 [04:03] <|Kiichan|> https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#870 [04:03] <frogmella> ?
#871 [04:03] <frogmella> O.
#872 [04:03] * |Kiichan| ninjas
#872 [04:03] <frogmella> Bad login
#873 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> |Kiichan|: ta :)
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#875 [04:03] <frogmella> That shows up when i connect to mp servers as well.
#876 [04:04] <frogmella> And no my copy is not cracked...
#877 [04:04] <DiskDaemon> So it's not a dodgy hosts file then
#878 [04:04] <frogmella> I heard something about hosts file.
#879 [04:04] <frogmella> Wat do.
#880 [04:04] <|Kiichan|> bad login is what that SHOULD say... unless user meep has notreal as a pass :P
#881 [04:04] <DiskDaemon> [20:03:30] <frogmella> Bad login
#882 [04:05] * |Kiichan| goes to bed!
#882 [04:05] <Elystus> Frogmella did you replace meep and notreal with your username and password
#883 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> Why else could it not connect to minecraft.net - firewall, site is down, anything else?
#884 [04:05] <frogmella> I'm confused... I clicked the link it sent me straight to "bad login" I never typed anything...
#885 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> frogmella: Good, that's what's suppsed to happen with that
#886 [04:06] <Elystus> Disk, you have to type your username and password with that
#887 [04:06] <frogmella> "Elystus Frogmella did you replace meep and notreal with your username and password"
#888 [04:07] <frogmella> Again... I'll mention the bottom of the login has no texture. It's pure black...
#889 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> if it was a bad passwqord, he wouldn't be getting the "can't connect..." message
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#891 [04:08] <Elystus> I know, but I was saying for the link that Kiichan supplied.
#892 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> frogmella: Okay, reinstall.
#893 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> ??> frogmella win/reinst
#894 [04:08] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#895 [04:08] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#896 [04:08] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: http://imgur.com/ZKzQV
#897 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> Don't get me wrong on this, but that looks quite ugly with all of those torches up in there
#898 [04:09] <frogmella> Same thing except now it says in brackets (notdownloaded) below the not clickable play offline
#899 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> Is it still black in the lower part?
#900 [04:10] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: it does, but it works.
#901 [04:10] <frogmella> Yes.
#902 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> frogmella: How long ago was it since your launcher was downloaded?
#903 [04:11] <Elystus> DiskDaemon, where can I find irc logs?
#904 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Logs are keps on the same computer that you use to access IRC, if you enable them
#905 [04:11] <Elystus> I still think it is ipv6, and Grey had some solutions for it yesterday.
#906 [04:12] <Elystus> oh thanks :)
#907 [04:12] <frogmella> Do you need me to do something in my cmd.exe?
#908 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> frogmella: Yes, I'll just get some info
#909 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> ?? java/ipv6
#910 [04:15] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#911 [04:15] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#912 [04:15] <Elystus> Disk, apparently this worked
#913 [04:15] <Elystus> Frogmella do you have 32 bit?
#914 [04:15] <Elystus> or 64 bit?
#915 [04:15] <frogmella> I have 64.
#916 [04:15] <Elystus> okay, is your java folder found in program files or program file (x86)?
#917 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> frogmella: Can you run java -version from the command prompt?
#918 [04:16] <frogmella> x86...
#919 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> that's the issue
#920 [04:16] <Elystus> "c:\program files (x86)\java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#921 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> x32 java running on x64 os
#922 [04:16] <Elystus> put that in note pad
#923 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: He needs to replace his 32-bit java with 64-bit java. That's the best option for him
#924 [04:17] <Elystus> then go to save as, save it as minecraft launcher.bat then below that click the drop down(file types) and choose the all files option.
#925 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: When you go to the Java website for an java update, it will give you the 32-bit version if you use anything else than Internet Explorer for the update
#926 [04:17] <Elystus> Disk: this will test to see if it is the issue.
#927 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: We already know he's running a 64-bit OS with a 32-bit Java. That' is a known issue
#928 [04:18] <Elystus> Actuallylisten to disk
#929 [04:18] <Elystus> You may run into more issue if you do not fix the issue now.
#930 [04:18] <Elystus> issues.
#931 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> frogmella: Uninstall Java. Completely.
#932 [04:18] <frogmella> So i put that thing
#933 [04:18] <frogmella> in notepad.
#934 [04:18] <frogmella> and then what
#935 [04:18] <Elystus> Frogmella, forget that
#936 [04:18] <frogmella> Kk
#937 [04:18] <Elystus> Go to control panel and uninstall programs
#938 [04:19] <frogmella> Its uninstalling...
#939 [04:19] <Elystus> okay good :)
#940 [04:19] <frogmella> I gotta close the browser :(
#941 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> Then use Internet Explorer to visit http://www.java.com/en/download/ and perform the udpate. With Internet Explorer, you should then get the 64-bit version of Java instead
#942 [04:19] <frogmella> IM GOING IN.
#943 [04:20] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: The ipv6 issue only seems to happen with 64 bit windows with 32 bit java7. I think that a command should be added with that information.
#944 [04:20] <Elystus> Would you mind suggesting that.
#945 [04:20] <Elystus> Or at least, all the ones I have seen have been like this.
#946 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> I'll make a point of confirming that when other ipv6 issues come along in here. With enough metrics, we can then provide that sort of advice
#947 [04:22] <DiskDaemon> It's odd that frog wasn't getting the ipv6 issue though, with the HTML content in the news area
#948 [04:22] <Elystus> Some do and some don't it seems.
#949 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> There will be a reason for why or why not that issue occurs
#950 [04:23] <Elystus> Well we know how to fix w/o uninstalling and how to fix with uninstalling.
#951 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> Yep, fix the core issue of the problem
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#953 [04:24] <Infinite> So,... I opened internet explorer (64 bit) and installed 64 bit java
#954 [04:24] <Infinite> ran minecraft.
#955 [04:24] <Infinite> still nothing.
#956 [04:24] <Infinite> same thing.
#957 [04:24] <Infinite> :(
#958 [04:25] <Elystus> really?
#959 [04:25] <Infinite> Yup.
#960 [04:25] <Elystus> anything diffrent?
#961 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Do you want to carry on from here with him?
#962 [04:25] <Elystus> I will see if I can fix it with the other solution
#963 [04:25] <Infinite> From Java page :
#964 [04:25] <Infinite> nvm
#965 [04:25] <Infinite> i cant copy pasta that
#966 [04:25] <Infinite> lol
#967 [04:25] <Infinite> But it says java 7
#968 [04:26] <Elystus> Infinite, is java located in program file?
#969 [04:26] <Infinite> Let me check
#970 [04:26] <Infinite> It's in both now.
#971 [04:26] <Infinite> Program Files and x86
#972 [04:26] <Elystus> okay thats fine.
#973 [04:26] <Elystus> okay open notepad
#974 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> He should be able to confirm in the control panel Java tab that the other one is now gone
#975 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> If that other one is gone, he can clean up by deleting the x86 java folder
#976 [04:27] * DiskDaemon steps out of the way
#976 [04:27] <Elystus> ^ yes do that also
#977 [04:28] <Elystus> put this in the note pad: "c:\program files\java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#978 [04:28] <Infinite> IT says i have a 64 bit java installed in control pannel
#979 [04:28] <Elystus> okay that is fine.
#980 [04:28] <Infinite> Okay.
#981 [04:28] <Elystus> then go to save as, save it as minecraft launcher.bat then below that click the drop down(file types) and choose the all files option.
#982 [04:28] <Elystus> minecraft_launcher.bat
#983 [04:29] <Elystus> now download this https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#984 [04:30] <Infinite> ITS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#985 [04:30] <Elystus> \o/
#986 [04:31] <Elystus> Hmm, so it seem that downloading 64 bit didn't work, odd.
#987 [04:31] <Elystus> Infinite can we try something?
#988 [04:31] <DiskDaemon> What is actually causing the issue, which that command helps with?
#989 [04:31] <Elystus> Watch DIsk
#990 [04:31] <Elystus> NOOO
#991 [04:31] * DiskDaemon sits onna stool
#991 [04:32] <Elystus> :(
#992 [04:32] <Elystus> Disk, there is no Enviroment variable set for java7
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#994 [04:32] <Infinite> Sorry... Keyboard actign funny.
#995 [04:32] <Elystus> Ye, you're back!
#996 [04:32] <Infinite> One more time.
#997 [04:32] <Elystus> okay, can we try something :)
#998 [04:32] <Infinite> yes.
#999 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, so installing java with admin permissions might help to fix that?
#1000 [04:33] <Elystus> go to the start menu and right click on computer
#1001 [04:33] <Elystus> click properties then go to advanced ettings
#1002 [04:33] <Elystus> settings*
#1003 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Instead of doing is manually, wouldn't it be better for the computer to do that (and more) as an admin install instead?
#1004 [04:33] <Elystus> I have no idea, but I want to see if this works.
#1005 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> righto
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#1007 [04:34] <Elystus> now Infinite, click on enviroment variables
#1008 [04:34] <Infinite> yupyup
#1009 [04:34] <Elystus> under system variables you will have 3 options. Click on the new option.
#1010 [04:34] <Elystus> make the variable name jre7
#1011 [04:35] <Infinite> value>?
#1012 [04:35] <Elystus> the variable value should be c:\program files\java\jre7\bin\java.ex
#1013 [04:35] <Elystus> c:\program files\java\jre7\bin\java.exe *
#1014 [04:35] <Elystus> make sure that there is no space before C or after exe
#1015 [04:36] <Infinite> mmkkk
#1016 [04:36] <Elystus> click ok.
#1017 [04:36] <Elystus> now try to run minecraft using the regular launcher.
#1018 [04:36] <Infinite> I deleted the .jar file u asked me to download.. and the fake .bat launcher earlier...
#1019 [04:37] <Infinite> Not working not moar.
#1020 [04:37] <Infinite> xD
#1021 [04:37] <Elystus> ?
#1022 [04:37] <Elystus> lol
#1023 [04:37] <Elystus> You need to kep those.
#1024 [04:37] <Infinite> Regular old launcher... Not working.... Over...
#1025 [04:37] <Infinite> Wat.
#1026 [04:37] <Elystus> :(
#1027 [04:37] <Infinite> y..
#1028 [04:37] <Elystus> Try the bat file again
#1029 [04:37] <Infinite> I deleted... Deleted it....
#1030 [04:37] <Infinite> :(
#1031 [04:38] <Elystus> okay hold on w can remake it.
#1032 [04:38] <Elystus> put this in the note pad: "c:\program files\java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#1033 [04:38] <Elystus> jar download: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1034 [04:38] <Elystus> you need to keep them. You will need to use the .bat each time.
#1035 [04:38] <Elystus> I need to find out how to set the system variable.
#1036 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> Infinite: I may have something that will fix things permanently
#1037 [04:40] <Infinite> Okay.
#1038 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Manually download the offline 64-bit version from http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#1039 [04:40] <Infinite> So I have the bat and the jar on my desktop
#1040 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Go to the folder where it downloaded, right-click on the file and run it as administrator
#1041 [04:40] <Infinite> Will do daemon
#1042 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Running it as administrator should ensure that it properly makes updates to the machine.
#1043 [04:41] <Elystus> If it doesn't I think I found out what I did wrong
#1044 [04:41] * Elystus was being stupid.
#1044 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: tag-teaming :)
#1045 [04:41] <Elystus> Infinite we are using you for testing lol :)
#1046 [04:42] <Elystus> You are very easy to work with.
#1047 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> Infinite: Thank you for your patience
#1048 [04:42] <Infinite> If it means I get to greif my little brother in our server... I'm willing to have 12 guage needles put into my computer...
#1049 [04:42] <Elystus> Lol.
#1050 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that things go that far, usually
#1051 [04:42] <Infinite> Mmm it updated.
#1052 [04:42] <Infinite> So.
#1053 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> Is the normal launcher still with its issue?
#1054 [04:43] <Infinite> Uhh..
#1055 [04:43] <Infinite> Weird
#1056 [04:43] <Infinite> Oh
#1057 [04:43] <Infinite> thats starcrat.
#1058 [04:43] <Infinite> starcraft LOL.
#1059 [04:43] <Infinite> umm
#1060 [04:43] <Infinite> sec
#1061 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Starcraft? I'm tagging out. Your turn :)
#1062 [04:44] <Infinite> Yes.
#1063 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> It works?
#1064 [04:44] <Infinite> Its. still broken.
#1065 [04:44] <Infinite> :(
#1066 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> Righto
#1067 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: please go ahead with yout idea
#1068 [04:44] <Elystus> go back to the enviroment variables page
#1069 [04:45] <Elystus> right click computer, properties, advanced settings
#1070 [04:45] <Infinite> yup
#1071 [04:45] <Elystus> okay, new again
#1072 [04:46] <Elystus> Name:
#1073 [04:46] <Elystus> %CLASSPATH%
#1074 [04:47] <Elystus> C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\lib
#1075 [04:47] <Elystus> okay
#1076 [04:47] <Infinite> Yup
#1077 [04:47] <Elystus> new again
#1078 [04:47] <Infinite> kk
#1079 [04:47] <Elystus> %JAVA_HOME% for name
#1080 [04:48] <Elystus> C:\Program Files\Java\jre7
#1081 [04:48] <Elystus> okay
#1082 [04:48] <Infinite> done
#1083 [04:48] <Elystus> now can you open cmd prompt?
#1084 [04:48] <Infinite> HOW DO YOU DO THAT? DERP.
#1085 [04:48] <Infinite> kk one sec
#1086 [04:48] <Infinite> okay now hat
#1087 [04:48] <Infinite> what*
#1088 [04:48] <Elystus> Lol, that is most people when they come in.
#1089 [04:48] <Infinite> I figured lol
#1090 [04:49] <Elystus> Okay type echo $CLASSPATH%
#1091 [04:49] <Elystus> %CLASSPATH%*
#1092 [04:49] <Iaccidentally> HOW DO YOU OPEN GUI?
#1093 [04:49] <Elystus> <_>
#1094 [04:49] <Elystus> you should have gotten C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\lib
#1095 [04:49] <Elystus> correct?
#1096 [04:49] <Infinite> I just get %CLASSPATH% back.
#1097 [04:49] <Infinite> xD
#1098 [04:50] <Infinite> Did I mispell something.
#1099 [04:50] <Infinite> In the enviro thing
#1100 [04:50] <Elystus> can we use Teamviewer?
#1101 [04:50] <Infinite> sure
#1102 [04:50] <Infinite> one sec
#1103 [04:50] <Elystus> pm me the id and pass please :)
#1104 [04:55] <tikker> what is the problem? (sorry for jumping in)
#1105 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> connection to minecraft.net fails - I'll get you info on what fixes it
#1106 [04:56] <Elystus> working on it now
#1107 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> He's successful with: c:\program files (x86)\java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#1108 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> Or now, without the (x86) part
#1109 [05:00] <tikker> so the exe fails to connect?
#1110 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> yes
#1111 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> We haven't walked him through firewall issues yet - he claims to have checked those
#1112 [05:02] <tikker> have you tried java 6?
#1113 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> Not yet. That's an unsavory solution, because in a few months time when he's prompted to update to java 7 again, same problem.
#1114 [05:05] <Elystus> I want to murder this in the face
#1115 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> tikker: The only other significant thing is that his launcher is black in the bottom area
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#1117 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> Infinite: Could you get for us a screenshot of how the launcher is black in the lower part?
#1118 [05:11] <Elystus> making progress... somewhat...
#1119 [05:11] <Elystus> Disk... all the dirt is just black.
#1120 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> I'd like a shot of that, so I can use image search tools to find other ones on the web
#1121 [05:17] <Elystus> I give up...
#1122 [05:17] <Elystus> I got one variable set up... the %PATH% variable...
#1123 [05:17] <Elystus> The others refuse to work...
#1124 [05:18] <Elystus> I may try again tomorrow if someone stumbles in with the issue, but at least we have a temp fix.
#1125 [05:18] <Infinite> I'll be back tommorow night maybe ;D
#1126 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> Oh no, I think I forgot one thing. Did his user name have any special characters in it?
#1127 [05:21] <Elystus> no, but that would not cause an issue like this...
#1128 [05:22] <Elystus> the problem was that no path was specified to java.
#1129 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> right, it would actually crash instead. hmm
#1130 [05:22] <Elystus> I think Grey knows how to set the variables...
#1131 [05:23] <DiskDaemon> What's troublig me is why the texture wouldn't show in the launcher
#1132 [05:24] <Elystus> because the texture is loaded through java.
#1133 [05:24] <Elystus> Much in the same way that java loads the texture packs...
#1134 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> Did you see if the minecraft.jar launcher was able to load it?
#1135 [05:25] <Elystus> It is
#1136 [05:25] <Elystus> everything works perfectly fine that way.
#1137 [05:26] <DiskDaemon> Right, so for some reason, the minecaft.exe launcher isn't able to load the texture, or connect to minecraft.net, whereas the minecraft.jar launcher is able to do all of that
#1138 [05:27] <Elystus> Because the paths were not set for java. Its weird.
#1139 [05:27] <Elystus> We need to ask Grey how to do the perma fix.
#1140 [05:27] <Elystus> Also, I am thinking much clearer now that my pain meds are wearing off :)
#1141 [05:28] <Elystus> But the downside is that I am starting to get some pain :/
#1142 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> Indeed. How did the paths get so bad? Wouldn't they be fixed with a proper install of Java? Which occurred? Odd.
#1143 [05:29] <Elystus> I honestly have no idea.. it must have something to do with installing 32 bit first though... thats a common trend.
#1144 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> A few years ago when I busted several ribs, I tried to stay off medication as much as practical. Pain is a warning that I wasn't comfortable with blotting out. I hope you heal up well.
#1145 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> There is a program that removes all traces of Java. That might be the next step.
#1146 [05:30] <Elystus> maybe...
#1147 [05:30] <Elystus> Ouch, breaking several ribs :/ That sounds painful..
#1148 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> JavaRa is the name of it.
#1149 [05:31] <Elystus> maybe we can try that with him tomorrow.
#1150 [05:31] <Elystus> but it is 2:30 here, so I think I am going to get ready for bed.
#1151 [05:31] <DiskDaemon> It was, though the shoulder and more especially the rotator cup (where the collar bone joins) too longer to come right
#1152 [05:32] <Elystus> Mine is my sides and the middle of my chest.
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#1154 [05:32] <DiskDaemon> well, look after yourself
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#1156 [05:32] <Elystus> They had to put a metal bar into my chest to push it outwards as it was slowly crushing and pushing my heart to the side.
#1157 [05:32] <Elystus> Okay, good night DiskDaemon.
#1158 [05:32] <Elystus> Okay, good night DiskDaemon.
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#1160 [05:33] <tikker> has it been solved yet?
#1161 [05:33] <tikker> ??< java
#1162 [05:33] <tikker> ??<jre
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#1164 [05:33] <tikker> ??< jre
#1165 [05:33] <DiskDaemon> not yet. It's suspected that an older 32-bit install on the 64-bit system still has some way on the issue. So using JavaRa to wipe out all traces of Java before properly installing it, is a next step
#1166 [05:34] <tikker> ??< index
#1167 [05:34] <DiskDaemon> tikker: See http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#1168 [05:35] <tikker> but why don't just revert to java 6
#1169 [05:36] <tikker> it never asks me to upgrade to 7
#1170 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> Because he'll be left with exactly the same problem when he's asked to update to Java 7 next week.
#1171 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> Web sites can deman it when they make use of features that Java 6 doesn't have
#1172 [05:36] <tikker> that may be, but minecraft doesn't work (correctly) with java 7
#1173 [05:37] <DiskDaemon> Going backwards, while it might work, doesn't actually fix the problem. It just delays things until you have to face it again
#1174 [05:37] <tikker> true
#1175 [05:37] <tikker> but since there is no known fix for java 7
#1176 [05:37] <tikker> it's the best you can do
#1177 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> Not this one yet, but we'll find it. We have fixes for all other java 7 issues.
#1178 [05:38] <tikker> really?
#1179 [05:38] <tikker> nice
#1180 [05:38] <tikker> what is all btw, i know about the ipv6 but what's more?
#1181 [05:39] <DiskDaemon> things like how Java 7 prefers to communicate using IPv6, failing to connect that way with minecraft.net
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#1183 [05:39] <Rauskill> hello
#1184 [05:39] <Rauskill> There is Staff?
#1185 [05:39] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#1186 [05:39] <tikker> hi
#1187 [05:39] <DiskDaemon> No, we're all community colunteers
#1188 [05:40] <DiskDaemon> *volunteers
#1189 [05:40] <Rauskill> Fuck i need say i buyed minecraft but i don't recive Premium Status
#1190 [05:40] * AuBot kicked Rauskill from #minecrafthelp (Reason: auskill :Please keep it civil.)
#1191 [05:41] <tikker> when did you buy it?
#1192 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> he's outta here
#1193 [05:41] <tikker> o
#1194 [05:41] <tikker> i see
#1195 [05:41] <tikker> X|
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#1197 [05:41] <Rauskill> Hello
#1198 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> Rauskill: Can you confirm that your bank account has been charged for the game?
#1199 [05:42] <Rauskill> 8d02cc813c834e38954e2f0e8385d6ff
#1200 [05:42] <tikker> when did you buy it is also good for checking
#1201 [05:42] <tikker> ah
#1202 [05:42] <tikker> the code
#1203 [05:42] <tikker> i see your problem
#1204 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> Rauskill: Can you confirm that your bank account has been charged for the game?
#1205 [05:42] <Rauskill> Whit code?
#1206 [05:43] <Rauskill> That said if i don't recive i can use this code 8d02cc813c834e38954e2f0e8385d6ff
#1207 [05:43] <DiskDaemon> That's not a transaction id.
#1208 [05:43] <DiskDaemon> Rauskill: Can you confirm that your bank account has been charged for the game?
#1209 [05:43] <DiskDaemon> Don't post the transaction id here though.
#1210 [05:43] <DiskDaemon> Just - can you confirm that your bank account has been charged for the game?
#1211 [05:43] <tikker> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1212 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> tikker: There is nothing that Mojang can do to help him, if he cannot confirm that he's actually paid for it.
#1213 [05:44] <lutzee> That is the receipt number, log into your banks internet banking interface and check to see if there is a transaction form money bookers, or if your available funds has decreased by the cost of minecraft.
#1214 [05:44] <Rauskill> 3AH23456C7890163F
#1215 [05:44] <tikker> is your account charged raus
#1216 [05:44] <tikker> did you 'lose' money
#1217 [05:44] <Rauskill> yeah?
#1218 [05:44] <Rauskill> Yea
#1219 [05:45] <tikker> so you were charged
#1220 [05:45] <Rauskill> I Lose 19.95
#1221 [05:45] <tikker> ok
#1222 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> Rauskill: What was the account name that you chose for Minecraft?
#1223 [05:45] <tikker> so you have bought it
#1224 [05:45] <Rauskill> Yea
#1225 [05:45] <Rauskill> Rauskill
#1226 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> !paid Rauskill
#1227 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> Rauskill: And when did you buy it?
#1228 [05:45] <tikker> it can take a few days
#1229 [05:45] <Rauskill> Today
#1230 [05:46] <tikker> in extreme cases
#1231 [05:46] <tikker> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1232 [05:46] <tikker> usually within hours, sometimes a few days
#1233 [05:46] <DiskDaemon> That article says that it can take from 3 to 5 days
#1234 [05:46] <tikker> so i suggest you wait for another 3-5 days
#1235 [05:46] <Rauskill> 11.00 In +2
#1236 [05:46] <DiskDaemon> It also gives you some things to check, as well
#1237 [05:47] <tikker> i want an anti-swear/curse bot in my channel too, how is this done?
#1238 [05:48] <DiskDaemon> Check the text against a blacklist, and kick anything that matches
#1239 [05:48] <Rauskill> I Recive The Account To Premium Status Yes/No
#1240 [05:48] <DiskDaemon> Rauskill: In time.
#1241 [05:48] <Rauskill> I Buyed And I Lose My 19.95
#1242 [05:48] <tikker> wait for 3-5 days, if you haven't got it by then, do as stated in that article
#1243 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> The article knows all.
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#1246 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> ??> Rauskill attitude
#1247 [05:52] <VoxelHead> Rauskill: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1248 [05:52] <VoxelHead> Rauskill: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1249 [05:52] <tikker> so how do i configure that word-blacklist?
#1250 [05:52] <DiskDaemon> Rauskill: We know of your problem, and have directed you to material that can help to answer things for you.
#1251 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> tikker: I haven't created bots before.
#1252 [05:53] <tikker> mm, i'll go ask in the help channel
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#1255 [06:17] <Energeticmix> When you take the new version of minecraft
#1256 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> is that the beginning of a statement, or an incomplete question?
#1257 [06:20] <DiskDaemon> When you take the new version of minecraft and mix it with a bicardi and vodka soda, the world has an extra special feel to the place.
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#1265 [06:43] <johanreuter> hi, i changed my skin, but they can't see in multiplayer mode
#1266 [06:44] <johanreuter> do you know, what's wrong?
#1267 [06:44] <Grim_Reaper> johanreuter, by they, do you mean your friends?
#1268 [06:44] <Grim_Reaper> I think skins might take a while to appear. Also maybe try having your friends/yourself relog
#1269 [06:45] <johanreuter> the other player on the server
#1270 [06:47] <Grim_Reaper> johanreuter ask them to log out and then log back in
#1271 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> johanreuter: May I find out your player user name, so that I can confirm that your new skin is correctly available?
#1272 [06:48] <johanreuter> i wrote him, but he is afk and it may take a while
#1273 [06:48] <johanreuter> to my username - it is the same like here
#1274 [06:49] <DiskDaemon> That's odd, it's not showing as http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=johanreuter
#1275 [06:49] <DiskDaemon> !paid johanreuter
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#1277 [06:49] <DiskDaemon> well that's right
#1278 [06:50] <Calinou> ravine this is wrong
#1279 [06:51] <johanreuter> one more problem is, that i see my new skin, but the others don't
#1280 [06:52] <Calinou> johanreuter, tell the others to reconnect to the server... I'm not sure if it's needed though
#1281 [06:52] <Calinou> also, the char.png file in a texture pack is purely local and only used when the skin is "unknown" (usually when playing offline)
#1282 [06:52] <johanreuter> like said, this may take a while
#1283 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> johanreuter: Where did you save the uploaded texture to?
#1284 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> Or rather, the updated texture
#1285 [06:54] <johanreuter> i only uploaded it on minecraft.net and they said, that my skin has changed
#1286 [06:54] <Calinou> restart the game
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#1297 [08:59] <Louis> Hello
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#1299 [09:02] <Louis> I would like to obtain a pseudo 3-letter, that is possible?
#1300 [09:03] <DiskDaemon> As an account name?
#1301 [09:03] <Louis> Yes
#1302 [09:03] <DiskDaemon> I wouldn't see why now
#1303 [09:04] <DiskDaemon> pardon, I wouldn't see why not
#1304 [09:04] <Louis> I do not understand
#1305 [09:05] <DiskDaemon> What seems to be the problem?
#1306 [09:06] <DiskDaemon> And, what do you mean by a pseudo 3-letter? Is that a 3-letter that is not actually a 3-letter?
#1307 [09:06] <DiskDaemon> In the same way that y is a pseudo vowel?
#1308 [09:06] <Louis> The nickname that I get seems available but a message tells me the opposite
#1309 [09:07] <Louis> The pseudo is "LWI"
#1310 [09:07] <DiskDaemon> then I suspect that the message telling you that you can't get it might have more information available to it
#1311 [09:09] <Louis> Name not available!
#1312 [09:09] <Louis> The message is : Name not available!
#1313 [09:09] <DiskDaemon> Then it's not available.
#1314 [09:10] <Louis> Yes, I understand, but when I search here, it is not listed
#1315 [09:10] <Morrolan> When you search where?
#1316 [09:10] <Louis> http://www.mcskinsearch.com/skin/lwi
#1317 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> Search where?
#1318 [09:10] <Morrolan> This just means that the owner might not have bought the game.
#1319 [09:10] <DiskDaemon> Skins only list users who have skins. It's not all of the accounts
#1320 [09:11] <Morrolan> " So far 33,154,171 people have registered and 6,423,744 people bought the game. "
#1321 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> I've had my account since Alpha, for example, and I'm not on that skins list
#1322 [09:11] <Morrolan> As you see, only a minority of all accounts are premium
#1323 [09:11] <Morrolan> Approximately one fifth.
#1324 [09:11] <Louis> Okay, and removal of inactive accounts?
#1325 [09:11] <Morrolan> Won't happen.
#1326 [09:12] <DiskDaemon> Louis: Someone else has already placed a claim on that account name.
#1327 [09:13] <Louis> Okay, thank you ;)
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#1339 [09:47] <jediknight7> My minecraft keeps crashing right after the majong logo loads and it leaves an error report saying A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x690a89b0, pid=3608, tid=3628
#1340 [09:47] <DiskDaemon> ??> jediknight7 pastebin
#1341 [09:47] <VoxelHead> jediknight7: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1342 [09:47] <jediknight7> please help
#1343 [09:47] <DiskDaemon> ^^ pastebin
#1344 [09:48] <DiskDaemon> I suspect that it's to do with your graphics drivers being out of date, but a good look at the full error message will help to confirm that suspicion.
#1345 [09:49] <jediknight7> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x690a89b0, pid=3608, tid=3628 # # JRE version: 7.0_05-b05 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.1-b03 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [atioglxx.dll+0xa89b0] atiPPHSN+0x21fe0 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Wind
#1346 [09:49] <DiskDaemon> jediknight7: Not in here, idiot.
#1347 [09:49] <DiskDaemon> ??> jediknight7 pastebin
#1348 [09:49] <VoxelHead> jediknight7: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1349 [09:50] <DiskDaemon> Use pastebin to let us see it all.
#1350 [09:50] <jediknight7> im not an idiot
#1351 [09:50] <DiskDaemon> jediknight7: When you ignore very clear instructions, I take an opinion about that.
#1352 [09:50] <creative> i need to figure out what to do
#1353 [09:50] <creative> so bored in minecraft
#1354 [09:50] <Necrodoom> play survival?
#1355 [09:51] <|Kiichan|> creative: make a realtime, self-synching clock?
#1356 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> creative: Create a circular water-race, which drives mobs around where skeletons can shoot at others in there
#1357 [09:51] <Necrodoom> crash and corrupt your map with a big repulser
#1358 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> Use redstone to create a trivia question asking/scoring machine
#1359 [09:52] <jediknight7> heres the link http://pastebin.com/KTuxUft3
#1360 [09:52] <DiskDaemon> creative: Build a giant gold penis statue
#1361 [09:52] <|Kiichan|> DiskDaemon: etho's old idea? :P
#1362 [09:52] <Necrodoom> mine out all of end map
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#1364 [09:52] <DiskDaemon> indeed :)
#1365 [09:52] <jediknight7> please help i posted the link
#1366 [09:52] <DiskDaemon> jediknight7: Yes, it's a problematic frame, and stop begging for help.
#1367 [09:52] <Necrodoom> jediknight7: we saw it, no need to whine
#1368 [09:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> jediknight7 win/dxdiag
#1369 [09:53] <VoxelHead> jediknight7: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1370 [09:53] <VoxelHead> jediknight7: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1371 [09:53] <|Kiichan|> jedi: you need to reinstall your ATI drivers.
#1372 [09:53] <|Kiichan|> they done went bork.
#1373 [09:53] <DiskDaemon> jediknight7: Follow those dxdiag instructions above, and we can use the information from that to help you find more up to date drivers
#1374 [09:54] <DiskDaemon> It's nearly 2am for me, so I'll be finishing up shortly too
#1375 [09:54] * |Kiichan| just getting up.. but ging to work :P
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#1377 [09:56] <jediknight7> http://pastebin.com/7XnfP4dU heres the link
#1378 [09:57] <DiskDaemon> Your RADEON X600 PRO video card has 256MB of memory, which is banging right on the bottom of the minimim hardware requirements for Minecraft. We'll try to find more updated drivers for it though
#1379 [09:57] <jediknight7> thanks
#1380 [09:57] <DiskDaemon> Try these ones here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx
#1381 [09:58] <DiskDaemon> Those are version 10.2, compared with the version 6.14 that you're currently using
#1382 [10:01] <jediknight7> do i choose option 1
#1383 [10:01] <creative> idk man
#1384 [10:01] <DiskDaemon> Yes.
#1385 [10:02] <creative> i want to make a whore house
#1386 [10:02] <creative> how do u do taht in minecraft?
#1387 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> creative: this is not the place for talking about mods
#1388 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> ??> creative mods
#1389 [10:02] <VoxelHead> creative: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1390 [10:02] <VoxelHead> creative: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#1391 [10:03] <DiskDaemon> #risucraft is the place for talking about and creating mods
#1392 [10:03] <creative> u need mod for that?
#1393 [10:03] <DiskDaemon> no, we don't here
#1394 [10:03] <jediknight7> what will happen when i install the new version
#1395 [10:03] <creative> ok
#1396 [10:04] <DiskDaemon> jediknight7: It should update your graphics card drivers so that they are more capable than they are now. That is, they shouldn't crash when asked to do things.
#1397 [10:04] <jediknight7> thanks a lot i payed for minecraft and it would really suck if i counldnt play
#1398 [10:05] <DiskDaemon> jediknight7: You can play, it's just a matter of not having horrible hardware
#1399 [10:05] <jediknight7> thanks for the help your the only ones who helped me
#1400 [10:06] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#1402 [10:11] <TheMagicPostman> Hi, I believe I joined a server where there's a plugin that gives the owner op on my server.. An admin caught the person trying to do this while I was afk and banned him and his IP. I'm worried if we're all offline and he can just come on with another account and give himself Op... Any advise on how I can fight this?
#1403 [10:12] <Morrolan> Session stealers work only for a short time after you logged into the server in question.
#1404 [10:13] <Skidoodle> Why do you believe he's using a plugin that gives him OP on your server?
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#1408 [10:16] <Andrio> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1256688-session-stealer-force-op-a-tutorial-on-what-it-is-and-how-to-avoid-it/
#1409 [10:17] <Skidoodle> Which can only occur if you log into someone else's server.
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#1419 [10:47] <jimchrisann> When I right click on my crafting table it doesn't do anything.
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#1421 [10:49] <jimchrisann> I just barely bought the game, and built a table and I looked up you need to right click it. When I do it doesn't do anything. What do I do?
#1422 [10:49] <Skidoodle> Uh, does right click work for anything else in the game?
#1423 [10:50] <DiskDaemon> Try the other right?
#1424 [10:50] <Skidoodle> Actually, are you sure you built the right thing?
#1425 [10:51] <jimchrisann> I built it out of four planks in a square in the crafting thing in the inventory
#1426 [10:51] <Skidoodle> And then you placed it on the ground?
#1427 [10:51] <jimchrisann> yep
#1428 [10:51] <DiskDaemon> Is this with Minecraft 1.2.5 ?
#1429 [10:51] <jimchrisann> i just downloaded it yesterday so whatever minecraft that is
#1430 [10:52] <DiskDaemon> It will tell you at the bottom left of the menu. can you take a look now?
#1431 [10:52] <DiskDaemon> And, is this on a PC, Mac or Linux?
#1432 [10:52] <jimchrisann> yep it is 1.2.5 and it is a mac
#1433 [10:53] <jimchrisann> I hooked up a mouse to the mac so I don't have to use the touchpad
#1434 [10:53] <Skidoodle> Standard mouse, or one of those silly Apple ones?
#1435 [10:53] <jimchrisann> standard,
#1436 [10:53] <DiskDaemon> well you're not alone with your right-click issue on the mac. Bloody macs
#1437 [10:54] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1128187-right-click-issue-with-mac-client/
#1438 [10:54] <Skidoodle> Doesn't it require right clicking to even place the block in the first place?
#1439 [10:55] <jimchrisann> no, made it so I have to press Z
#1440 [10:55] <Andrio> Try pressing Z again.
#1441 [10:55] <DiskDaemon> jimchrisann: Go in to the Minecraft options, and set the key or mouse commands in there.
#1442 [10:56] <Skidoodle> I agree with Andrio, if you've set it to Z, then Z will work to use it.
#1443 [10:56] <jimchrisann> It doesn't show options for mouse their.
#1444 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> Then you'll have to use something else. Macs have trouble with right-clicking
#1445 [10:57] <Skidoodle> It's called "Use Item"
#1446 [10:57] <DiskDaemon> ^
#1447 [10:57] <Skidoodle> But as was said before, if you placed the block with "Z" then you can use it with "Z"
#1448 [10:58] <jimchrisann> yah thats what I made Z but when I use Z pointed at the crafting table for some reason it opens my inventory
#1449 [10:58] <DiskDaemon> Is there a 3x3 crafting grid above your inventory?
#1450 [10:58] <jimchrisann> I am an idiot, i just realized that thie r is 3x3 grid, thanks for the help!
#1451 [10:58] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#1452 [10:58] <jimchrisann> have a nice day guys
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#1457 [11:02] <Browman123l> i tryed to download some mods but minecraft worknt work, so then i tryed to delte the mods, and my game still didnt work what should i do?
#1458 [11:02] <DiskDaemon> ??> Browman123l win/reinst
#1459 [11:02] <VoxelHead> Browman123l: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1460 [11:02] <VoxelHead> Browman123l: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1461 [11:02] <Browman123l> thank you
#1462 [11:02] <duilder28> i just bought minecraft yesterday and havent been able to play for more than 10-15 minutes without the screen going white and freezing up..any suggestions?
#1463 [11:03] <DiskDaemon> ??> duilder28 win/dxdiag
#1464 [11:03] <VoxelHead> duilder28: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1465 [11:03] <VoxelHead> duilder28: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1466 [11:04] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: I would also like to see a crash report, which you can get by following the instructions at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1467 [11:05] <DiskDaemon> I'd suggest following the updated instructions there
#1468 [11:05] <Browman123l> <voxelHead> do you mean delete all the files completly
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#1470 [11:06] <Andrio> Browman123l: Everything except the saves and stats
#1471 [11:07] <Browman123l> but don't that delete all the main minecraft data
#1472 [11:08] <Andrio> The main Minecraft data is in 'bin'
#1473 [11:08] <Browman123l> oh thank you
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#1475 [11:10] <duilder28> what link do i copy and what is the IRC channel?
#1476 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: This is the IRC channel, where you are now.
#1477 [11:11] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: copy the link in your browser's address bar
#1478 [11:11] <duilder28> http://pastebin.com/AaxA0cre
#1479 [11:12] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: I would also like to see a crash report, which you can get by following the instructions at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1480 [11:13] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: That way we can see what Miencraft says is causing the trouble.
#1481 [11:13] <duilder28> how do i make a new text file?
#1482 [11:13] <DiskDaemon> right-click on the desktop and choose New > Text document
#1483 [11:14] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: You're following the wrong instructions though.
#1484 [11:14] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: Please follow the updated instructions on there instead
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#1486 [11:15] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: For instruction 7 on there, please use pastebin again
#1487 [11:18] <duilder28> ok, how do i browse to the location of my minecraft.exe launcher?
#1488 [11:19] <DiskDaemon> What do you click on to start the Minecraft Launcher?
#1489 [11:22] <duilder28> so far i go to the website and choose to play in browser
#1490 [11:22] <duilder28> i shift/right clicked but the option im looking for doesnt come up
#1491 [11:23] <duilder28> i havent been able to successfully download it to my computer
#1492 [11:23] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: Okay. You'll need to download the minecraft.exe file from the website, in order to get a crash report that we can use to help you
#1493 [11:25] <duilder28> i havent been able to successfully download it to my computer, how do i know if i have a firewall that might be blocking me
#1494 [11:25] <DiskDaemon> We can help to diagnose that with you
#1495 [11:26] <DiskDaemon> When you go to the download page, right-click on minecraft.exe and save it to your desktop
#1496 [11:27] <duilder28> ok it says run, open or view downloads
#1497 [11:28] <DiskDaemon> When you right-click on it, you're supposed to get a context-sensitive menu fro which you can choose to save it to a certain location
#1498 [11:29] <duilder28> yes, i did that, chose desktop and now it has completed.
#1499 [11:29] <DiskDaemon> Oh good. Carry on with those updated crash report instruction then
#1500 [11:31] <duilder28> im shifting and right clicking but no options are coming up
#1501 [11:32] <DiskDaemon> What are you shift-right-clicking on?
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#1503 [11:32] <duilder28> im doing randomly in different areas in the window.
#1504 [11:33] <DiskDaemon> Just do it on an empty area of your desktop
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#1506 [11:33] <nerds22> umm i need help
#1507 [11:34] <DiskDaemon> nerds22: What with?
#1508 [11:34] <nerds22> how do u do color codes for a title on minecraft
#1509 [11:34] <DiskDaemon> no idea
#1510 [11:35] <nerds22> -_-
#1511 [11:35] <DiskDaemon> The wiki has info though at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Formatting_Codes
#1512 [11:36] <nerds22> k ill go on that thanks
#1513 [11:36] <duilder28> ok, i did it and im going to play for the next 15 minutes to see if it crashes again. fyi, the minecraft looks like it saved correctly to my desktop and it seems to be working better already.
#1514 [11:37] <DiskDaemon> duilder28: Okay. I'm going to sleep now, but others here should be able to help you.
#1515 [11:37] <DiskDaemon> All the best
#1516 [11:37] <duilder28> ok thank you very much. sweet dreams!
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#1518 [11:42] <nerds22> ik its not working
#1519 [11:42] <nerds22> =*ok
#1520 [11:42] <nerds22> it does not tell u how to do color codes
#1521 [11:43] <Necrodoom> it does
#1522 [11:43] <nerds22> i just dont know how 2 do it
#1523 [11:46] <duilder28> my command center said that an error occurred during initialization of VM?
#1524 [11:47] <duilder28> and also not enough space for object heap and couldnt create java virtual machine?
#1525 [11:49] <tikker> @duilder28, run it with a bat file, restricting memory usage to java
#1526 [11:50] <duilder28> how do i run it with a bat file exactly?
#1527 [11:50] <tikker> java -jar -Xmx<max mem here> -Xms<min mem here> Minecraft.exe
#1528 [11:51] <Andrio> duilder28, how much memory does your computer have?
#1529 [11:52] <duilder28> im sorry, i dont understand that and im not sure. it should be alot, its a quad processor
#1530 [11:52] <tikker> ram memory we mean
#1531 [11:53] <tikker> ??< help
#1532 [11:53] <tikker> ??< index
#1533 [11:53] <duilder28> looks like 1337 free?
#1534 [11:53] <Andrio> ??> index
#1535 [11:54] <duilder28> huh?
#1536 [11:55] <tikker> have you tried running the bat?
#1537 [11:55] <duilder28> no i still dont know how to do that ^see above^
#1538 [11:56] <tikker> create a new text file in the same location as minecraft.exe (right click, new>text file)
#1539 [11:56] <tikker> put this in it: java -jar -Xmx<max mem here> -Xms<min mem here> Minecraft.exe
#1540 [11:56] <tikker> fill in the blanks
#1541 [11:56] <tikker> something like -Xmx800M -Xms400M
#1542 [11:57] <tikker> then save it as "runminecraft.bat" with quotes
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#1544 [12:05] <tikker> did it help duilder28?
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#1546 [12:08] <pitchblac23> i have a question i have portfowarded 25565 on my router and firewall out and in and when i try to use my wan ip i get on my server console read timed out and disconnecting and on the mc side i get internal exception java.net.socketexception: connection reset and idk what to do any help
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#1548 [12:10] <Wolfcub> heya, does anyone else have problems with panda global protection?
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#1550 [12:13] <tikker> i had panda
#1551 [12:13] <tikker> never had problems
#1552 [12:13] <tikker> what's it?
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#1555 [12:14] <tikker> @pitchblac23 you don't use your WAN ip
#1556 [12:14] <tikker> you use your local ip, or external ip for others
#1557 [12:15] <Wolfcub> well everytime i try to open up minecraft it says ''Error: could not creat the java virtual machine. Error: A fatal exception has occurred. program will exit.''
#1558 [12:17] <pitchblac23> @ tikker isnt wan ip the external ip it looks the same when i look at it on my 192.168.2.1 to whatsmyip.com
#1559 [12:19] <tikker> 192.x.x.x is your local ip
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#1561 [12:19] <pitchblac23> this is my external ip 70.178.225.240 but when i use it to connect to test if its working it get that error
#1562 [12:21] <tikker> seems your ports aren't forwarded properly then
#1563 [12:21] <tikker> i'm not an expert on this, so i cant help you
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#1565 [12:22] <pitchblac23> i know how to open ports ok and on canyouseeme.org with wan ip and 25565 port i get success
#1566 [12:23] <Wolfcub> anyone able to help me?
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#1568 [12:23] <pitchblac23> wolfcub maybe update java or reinstall it and minecraft ?
#1569 [12:23] <Wolfcub> ill try
#1570 [12:24] <tikker> @pitchblac, what minecraft version are you running, maybe i can see if i can connect
#1571 [12:24] <pitchblac23> 1.2.5 newest no mods
#1572 [12:24] <tikker> ok
#1573 [12:24] <pitchblac23> and i have it runing atm
#1574 [12:25] <tikker> i'l;l try to connect to 70.178.225.240:25565
#1575 [12:26] <Moose> [09:15] <Wolfcub> well everytime i try to open up minecraft it says ''Error: could not creat the java virtual machine. Error: A fatal exception has occurred. program will exit.''
#1576 [12:26] <Moose> Wolfcub, what OS are you running?
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#1578 [12:27] <Gorillaz720> Hi there!
#1579 [12:27] <Gorillaz720> I'm having trouble with my server
#1580 [12:27] <tikker> tell
#1581 [12:27] <Gorillaz720> May I please have some help?
#1582 [12:27] <tikker> talk :)
#1583 [12:28] <Moose> Gorillaz720, what is it?
#1584 [12:28] <Gorillaz720> okay this is my server properties right now
#1585 [12:28] <Gorillaz720> #Minecraft server properties #Wed Jun 27 01:05:28 WST 2012 allow-nether=false level-name=Labrynna enable-query=false allow-flight=false server-port= level-type=DEFAULT enable-rcon=false level-seed= server-ip=5.248.46.215 max-build-height=256 spawn-npcs=true white-list=false spawn-animals=true online-mode=false pvp=true difficulty=1 gamemode=0 max-players=10 spawn-monsters=false generate-structures=true view-distance=10 motd=W
#1586 [12:28] <Gorillaz720> that came out wrong. anyway, it's all there
#1587 [12:28] <Gorillaz720> ok down to business
#1588 [12:28] <tikker> ??> Gorillaz720 pastebin
#1589 [12:28] <VoxelHead> Gorillaz720: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1590 [12:28] <Gorillaz720> no one can join
#1591 [12:28] <Moose> Gorillaz720, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
#1592 [12:29] <Gorillaz720> ok thanks
#1593 [12:29] <Moose> Gorillaz720, Do you have multiple IPs?
#1594 [12:29] <tikker> how are they connecting
#1595 [12:29] <Gorillaz720> Hamachi
#1596 [12:29] <Moose> OH GOD
#1597 [12:29] <Gorillaz720> 1 ip
#1598 [12:29] <Moose> NO
#1599 [12:29] <Moose> DON'T USE HAMACHI
#1600 [12:29] <Moose> It's not that hard to portforward
#1601 [12:29] <tikker> ??> Gorillaz720 hamachi
#1602 [12:29] <tikker> BUT PLEAS
#1603 [12:29] <Gorillaz720> I can't port forward with my router. It's retarded
#1604 [12:29] <tikker> I USE IT TOO XD
#1605 [12:29] <Gorillaz720> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066327/
#1606 [12:30] <Andrio> server-ip should probably be blank
#1607 [12:30] <tikker> ??> fuubar/hamachi
#1608 [12:30] <Andrio> server-port should probably not be blank
#1609 [12:30] <Moose> hamachi is a demonic tool that should never be used.
#1610 [12:30] <tikker> ?? fuubar/hamachi
#1611 [12:30] <tikker> ?? fubar/hamachi
#1612 [12:30] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1613 [12:30] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1614 [12:30] <tikker> nothing wron with hamachi
#1615 [12:30] <Gorillaz720> So you cant help me?
#1616 [12:30] <tikker> just connect to the hamachi ip
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#1618 [12:31] <tikker> gorillaz
#1619 [12:31] <Moose> Hamachi is hhorrible
#1620 [12:31] <Moose> *horrible
#1621 [12:31] <tikker> do the persons who want to join hava hamachi?
#1622 [12:31] <Gorillaz720> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1066327/
#1623 [12:31] <Moose> Gorillaz720, and there's nothing wrong with your router.
#1624 [12:31] <Gorillaz720> They all have ha,achi
#1625 [12:31] <Moose> server-ip=5.248.46.215
#1626 [12:31] <Moose> change that
#1627 [12:31] <tikker> server-ip should be blank
#1628 [12:31] <Gorillaz720> to?
#1629 [12:31] <Gorillaz720> ok
#1630 [12:31] <Moose> Gorillaz720: for the last time, DO. NOT. USE. HAMACHI.
#1631 [12:31] <tikker> -.-
#1632 [12:32] <tikker> :P
#1633 [12:32] <tikker> i'm only using it because my router just WON'T port forward
#1634 [12:32] <Gorillaz720> Exactly
#1635 [12:32] <superkabii> operator error.
#1636 [12:32] <Gorillaz720> tikker, can you help?
#1637 [12:32] <Moose> Gorillaz720, what router do you have
#1638 [12:32] <Gorillaz720> don't know, parents are alseep, don't want to walk past their room and wake them
#1639 [12:35] <Moose> >_>
#1640 [12:35] <Moose> <_<
#1641 [12:35] <kassidylynn> excuse me but my daughter wants minecraft on her i pad. i purchased it but it still tells me to get verification key from email. I didnt get a verification key. ive already paid for minecraft.
#1642 [12:35] <Gorillaz720> Help this lady, I can wait
#1643 [12:35] <Moose> kassidylynn, For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi.
#1644 [12:35] <tikker> @kassidylynn, check if your account has been charged
#1645 [12:35] <tikker> and go there :P
#1646 [12:35] <tikker> @Gorillaz720, does it work when the server-ip is empty?
#1647 [12:35] <kassidylynn> told me it was. i can access the game on the computer but not her i pad still asking for verification key
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#1649 [12:35] <Gorillaz720> let me try
#1650 [12:35] <Moose> kassidylynn, just wondering, are you using Minecraft Pocket Edition?
#1651 [12:35] <c.ip.windstream.net> dont believe so
#1652 [12:35] <Gorillaz720> Another variable, I'm using craftbukkit, not minecraft_server.exe
#1653 [12:35] <Moose> So you're using minecraft.net's webclient?
#1654 [12:35] <Gorillaz720> yes, it works blank
#1655 [12:35] <Moose> Gorillaz720: change server-ip to blank
#1656 [12:35] <Gorillaz720> it is blank
#1657 [12:35] <Moose> and for the love of god
#1658 [12:35] <tikker> dont
#1659 [12:35] <Moose> don't use hamachi
#1660 [12:35] <tikker> moose XD
#1661 [12:35] <Gorillaz720> -_-
#1662 [12:36] <Gorillaz720> I'm using hamachi get used to it
#1663 [12:36] <tikker> i'll try to help with hamachi :P
#1664 [12:36] <Gorillaz720> thank you
#1665 [12:36] <Gorillaz720> join my network?
#1666 [12:36] <Moose> You shouldn't get used to hamachi
#1667 [12:36] <Moose> no.
#1668 [12:36] <tikker> sure
#1669 [12:36] <Gorillaz720> ok
#1670 [12:36] <tikker> moose come on XD
#1671 [12:36] <Moose> No one should join a hamachi server.
#1672 [12:36] <Gorillaz720> id is G720's Minecraft
#1673 [12:36] <Gorillaz720> pass is Minecraft
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#1675 [12:36] <Moose> hamachi is for the senseless idiots who don't know how to portforward, or wont even try.
#1676 [12:36] <kassidylynn> tryed the web site it is where i was for help
#1677 [12:37] <Andrio> Moose: Or those who can't.
#1678 [12:37] <Moose> Or those who can't figure out how to*
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#1680 [12:37] <superkabii> what kind of router.. can't portforward?
#1681 [12:37] <Moose> he doesn't know
#1682 [12:37] <superkabii> what would be the point then.
#1683 [12:37] <Moose> exactly.
#1684 [12:38] <tikker> dinner
#1685 [12:38] <Gorillaz720> so can you help?
#1686 [12:39] <Gorillaz720> le sigh
#1687 [12:39] <Moose> Gorillaz720: not without knowing which router.
#1688 [12:39] <Gorillaz720> It's not the router
#1689 [12:39] <Gorillaz720> I don't want to port forward
#1690 [12:40] <Moose> LOL
#1691 [12:40] <Moose> ROFLMAO
#1692 [12:40] <Gorillaz720> I port forwarded on my old router just fine
#1693 [12:40] <Gorillaz720> This one, my friend even had trouble with
#1694 [12:40] <Gorillaz720> it's the only brand of router even HE can't port forward on
#1695 [12:40] <ac3xx> Gorillaz720, you're not getting help with Hamachi here, simple
#1696 [12:40] <ac3xx> Tell us the router model and we can help
#1697 [12:40] <superkabii> which would be...?
#1698 [12:40] <Gorillaz720> Fair enough
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#1700 [12:40] <Moose> Gorillaz720, sounds like your friend doesn't know what he's doing then.
#1701 [12:40] <Gorillaz720> Last time I tried to port forward from this router
#1702 [12:40] <Moose> Each router is different
#1703 [12:40] <Gorillaz720> the ISP had to reset our internet
#1704 [12:40] <Moose> if you get me the name of your router, I can help you portforward
#1705 [12:40] <Gorillaz720> I don't KNOW it
#1706 [12:40] <Gorillaz720> good day
#1707 [12:40] <Moose> *facepalm*
#1708 [12:44] <Moose> >doesn't want help, so comes to #minecrafthelp
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#1710 [12:44] <superkabii> ...you never said he knew it, you asked him to get it so you could help him
#1711 [12:44] <superkabii> people are funny.
#1712 [12:46] <Skidoodle> There's a whole lot of text, can someone explain to me why Hamachi is so bad?
#1713 [12:49] <ac3xx> Skidoodle, because it uses publically allocated IP ranges for private networks, rendering a whole IPv4 /8 inaccessible to anyone with it installed
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#1715 [12:55] <clarjon1> Skidoodle: Hamachi is using IP addresses without permission.
#1716 [12:56] <clarjon1> Skidoodle: It also bypasses your hardware firewall ( read, router) potentially making your files, printers, and so on exposed to people who connect to your hamachi.
#1717 [12:59] <pitchblac23> as long as you set a user password to your comp user they cant access and info
#1718 [12:59] <pitchblac23> on hamachi
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#1721 [13:10] <mib_d7m8g4> How do i stop someone from hacking my server, and what can I do about it if they hack it successfully
#1722 [13:14] <Lox> What's up with the Account Migration stuff? Is that just an automatic thing?
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#1734 [14:15] <AJ_> hell any body there
#1735 [14:16] <AJ_> i am having issues loging into my acct
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#1737 [14:17] <superkabii> !login
#1738 [14:17] <Browman123l> <andrio> if i delete every thing but the saves and stats, the main minecarft data will be deleted
#1739 [14:18] <Browman123l> ...as the main mine craft data is in the bin
#1740 [14:19] <gimp> i cant log in to minecraft or make an account on mojang after not being on for months i have premium? when i tried it before i only had to log in on the launcher?
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#1742 [14:25] <gimp> can anyone help ?
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#1744 [14:29] <Trickster> Why can't you log in?
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#1747 [14:30] <Justrice> HEllo i need help, my Server not the panel has been hacked by some randoms and they opped their selfs and friends and griefed my server map i need it fixed
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#1750 [14:31] <lol> ola
#1751 [14:31] <Justrice> Hello
#1752 [14:31] <lol> ixi
#1753 [14:32] <Guest62670> i's my Brazil :/
#1754 [14:32] <superkabii> servers can not be "randomly hacked"
#1755 [14:32] <Guest62670> bye
#1756 [14:32] <superkabii> Justrice, do you know how they gained access?
#1757 [14:32] <Justrice> my staff and oping them and they are all using clients and i keep looking at logs but nothing shows up
#1758 [14:32] <Justrice> my stafff are*
#1759 [14:32] <superkabii> ah, okay
#1760 [14:32] <superkabii> is your server running in offline-mode?
#1761 [14:32] <Justrice> then i ban them and they like unban themselfs
#1762 [14:32] <Browman123l> i installed some mods and they didnt work so i tryed to delete them but now minecraft dont work. hellllp please
#1763 [14:32] <Justrice> no
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#1765 [14:33] <Guest> Will a sony Vaio laptob with HD Graphics with 4g memory and 320 GB (HDD) run minecarft??
#1766 [14:33] <Justrice> @guest it should
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#1768 [14:33] <Guest> how well? will it be super laggy?
#1769 [14:33] <Justrice> and im using CorePortect
#1770 [14:33] <Justrice> CoreProtect*
#1771 [14:33] <superkabii> so your staff members were hacked?
#1772 [14:34] <Browman123l> <Justrice> thanks
#1773 [14:34] <Guest> how well? will it be super laggy?
#1774 [14:34] <Justrice> and when i see who placed it it like shows #lava placed and i rollback but it does nothing
#1775 [14:34] <Finchy> hi there we think we have done everything needed to play the game but the java icon just keeps spinning around
#1776 [14:35] <Justrice> No <superkabii> my staff are oping and the Randoms are oping their friends and doing like community griefings
#1777 [14:35] <Justrice> but i try to roll back
#1778 [14:35] <Justrice> but nothing happens
#1779 [14:36] <Guest> if i downloaded minecraft on this laptop could i play it on my Desktop without having to pay for it again?
#1780 [14:36] <Justrice> Yeah <Guest>
#1781 [14:36] <Finchy> after the java has finished spinning it says error
#1782 [14:36] <Justrice> Just log in
#1783 [14:36] <Finchy> I thought i was logged in
#1784 [14:36] <Justrice> you can play on any Operating system
#1785 [14:36] <Justrice> just buy once
#1786 [14:36] <Guest> Really! thats awesome thanks @Justrice!!
#1787 [14:36] <Justrice> and nomore
#1788 [14:36] <Justrice> Np
#1789 [14:37] <Finchy> Hi Justrice
#1790 [14:37] <Justrice> Hey <Finchy>
#1791 [14:37] <Finchy> can you help us?
#1792 [14:37] <Finchy> the java icon keeps spinning for ages then says error
#1793 [14:38] <Justrice> Well, Im only 13 but i know alittle about Java/Programming
#1794 [14:38] <Justrice> wait
#1795 [14:38] <Finchy> no prob
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#1797 [14:38] <Justrice> Like Java Platform?
#1798 [14:38] <Finchy> what is java platform? we are new to this?
#1799 [14:39] <Justrice> SE Binary
#1800 [14:39] <Justrice> ok
#1801 [14:39] <Justrice> Are you Mac or Windows?
#1802 [14:39] <Finchy> windows
#1803 [14:39] <Justrice> ok Start->Search->Java
#1804 [14:39] <Trickster> Are you backing up your world files on your hacked server?
#1805 [14:39] <Justrice> No
#1806 [14:39] <Finchy> k
#1807 [14:40] <Justrice> Its offline right now
#1808 [14:40] <Finchy> done that have the box up
#1809 [14:41] <Justrice> ok do Start->Search->JAva->Java 32-Bit or 64-Bit
#1810 [14:41] <Justrice> and it will open Java Control Panel
#1811 [14:41] <Finchy> have the panel
#1812 [14:42] <Justrice> wait like Control Panel at the top?
#1813 [14:42] <Finchy> yes
#1814 [14:42] <Justrice> ok
#1815 [14:42] <Trickster> The world is probably toast then.
#1816 [14:42] <Justrice> Ok
#1817 [14:42] <Justrice> Hey Trickster
#1818 [14:42] <Justrice> Do you know about Prison Servers?
#1819 [14:42] <Trickster> Nope.
#1820 [14:43] <Justrice> Towny?
#1821 [14:43] <Trickster> Nope.
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#1824 [14:48] <Finchy> Justrice can you help us or are you busy now
#1825 [14:48] <Finchy> Young child very frustrated
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#1827 [14:50] <Trickster> What's the matter Finchy?
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#1829 [14:53] <Finchy> when we try to play the game it just rolls round the java icon then after ages says error
#1830 [14:53] <gimp> I cant log into the game
#1831 [14:53] <gimp> saying my username and pass is wrong
#1832 [14:54] <Trickster> @gimp, odds are your username and password is wrong then.
#1833 [14:54] <Trickster> @Finchy, does the login screen come up?
#1834 [14:54] <gimp> well thats what i thought so i got minecraft.net to send them to my email so????
#1835 [14:55] <Finchy> yeah i am logged in but when i choose single player that is when it happens
#1836 [14:55] <Trickster> @gimp, so what did your email say?
#1837 [14:55] <gimp> had my user name a pass but hey dont let me on
#1838 [14:55] <Trickster> You choose single player and it locks up before the Select World screen?
#1839 [14:56] <gimp> i played before all the migrating stuff happened
#1840 [14:56] <Finchy> yeah
#1841 [14:56] <Trickster> That's an odd spot.
#1842 [14:58] <Trickster> You look through http://help.mojang.com/ yet?
#1843 [14:59] <gimp> so i cant log into minecraft.net cant migrate my account to mojang yes ive tried the help why should i need to use that anyway if i got my pass sent by email just to make sure the one i wrote down wasnt wrong
#1844 [14:59] <gimp> this is after months of not paying
#1845 [14:59] <gimp> playing sorry
#1846 [15:02] <Trickster> You want help but you don't want to use the help site to get help? Heh.
#1847 [15:02] <Trickster> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/507459-i-ve-migrated-and-can-t-log-into-minecraft
#1848 [15:02] <gimp> minecraft.net verified my email and sent username and pass but they dont work
#1849 [15:02] <gimp> i tried the help site it didnt help me
#1850 [15:03] <gimp> i cant migrate coz it says username and pass is wrong?
#1851 [15:03] <Trickster> There's a link on that page to contact them directly if you're stuck.
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#1853 [15:03] <Trickster> This chat is more of a community support area.
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#1856 [15:20] <gimp> do u have the link to contact mojang or someone who can help please?
#1857 [15:25] <Boreeas> gimp: We do
#1858 [15:25] <Boreeas> http://help.mojang.com
#1859 [15:25] <Boreeas> Follow the directions, and your will get to an support ticket site
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#1861 [15:29] <cheese0448> I purchased but can't download the application
#1862 [15:30] <cheese0448> hello?
#1863 [15:31] <cheese0448> I get an error message
#1864 [15:35] <langkid1> cheese0448, where are you trying to download it from?
#1865 [15:39] <Calinou> ??< smp/servers
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#1867 [15:43] <rymate1234> hai
#1868 [15:43] <rymate1234> do you support prereleases of windows 8?
#1869 [15:44] <rymate1234> trying to get my graphics drivers installed
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#1871 [15:44] <rymate1234> wat do
#1872 [15:46] <rymate1234> I tried running the installer in compatability mode fo windows 7
#1873 [15:46] <rymate1234> and it didn't install the drivers
#1874 [15:47] <Morrolan> Wait for the manufacturer to release Windows 8 drivers. ;)
#1875 [15:48] <rymate1234> Morrolan, amd has released them
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#1877 [15:48] <rymate1234> but not for the mobility radeon 4xxx series :(
#1878 [15:48] <Morrolan> Ah.
#1879 [15:49] <rymate1234> windows 7 compatabiity worked in the comsumer preview
#1880 [15:49] <rymate1234> apparently not release preview
#1881 [15:50] <rymate1234> I see an option in control panel called "Add features to windows 8"
#1882 [15:50] <rymate1234> I wonder if that'll allow me to upgrade
#1883 [15:50] <Morrolan> Allows you to activate telnet etc, if it's similar to the one in Windows 7.
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#1885 [15:50] <Morrolan> Or atleast there's a similar sounding one to (de)activate built-in features.
#1886 [15:51] <Morrolan> Well, good luck with the drivers. :)
#1887 [15:51] <rymate1234> well, the window talks about product keys
#1888 [15:52] <rymate1234> well
#1889 [15:52] <rymate1234> looks I'm waiting for AMD to get off their ass and release windows 8 drivers
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#1891 [16:01] <Calinou> lolAMD
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#1893 [16:03] <gkblackx1> Hi
#1894 [16:03] <rymate1234> Calinou, ikr
#1895 [16:05] <langkid1> Calinou, hey AMD is awesome
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#1898 [16:05] <gkblackx1> hi
#1899 [16:06] <rymate1234> langkid1, unless you use linux.... *shudders*
#1900 [16:06] <langkid1> gaming on linux?
#1901 [16:06] <rymate1234> I'm not aying the drivers are bad
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#1903 [16:06] <Morrolan> Hurp durp.
#1904 [16:06] <rymate1234> but I get 1/2 fps on minecraft in linux
#1905 [16:06] <rymate1234> other games are OK
#1906 [16:06] <rymate1234> as long as I aren't using a compositing window manager
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#1908 [16:07] <Calinou> *sadface*
#1909 [16:07] <Calinou> <langkid1> gaming on linux? < works with nvidia 95% of the time
#1910 [16:07] <Calinou> just don't use trisquel, lol
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#1921 [16:35] <ClOuDv> Hello, can anyone tell me why after I re-install my minecraft, but I still got no sound?
#1922 [16:42] <rymate1234> ClOuDv, this might seem stupid, but have you checked you volume?
#1923 [16:42] <ClOuDv> yeah I did
#1924 [16:42] <ClOuDv> lol
#1925 [16:42] <ClOuDv> it's all the way up
#1926 [16:44] <ClOuDv> nvm fixed it
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#1928 [16:49] <technosage_> I am having a black screen after login problem, I am in a Linux Mint box and have tried all usual remedies, Any ideas ?
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#1938 [17:10] <EthanE> Anybody know how to fix the Minecraft Black Screen issue??
#1939 [17:11] <Elystus> Can you generate us a crash report?
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#1941 [17:11] <Elystus> EthanE what operating system do you have?
#1942 [17:12] <EthanE> lol if I can get it to crash -- I've extracted the executable and ran it. When I log in and system files load, Minecraft goes black. Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
#1943 [17:12] <InABetterPlace> Windows Vista
#1944 [17:12] <EthanE> Elystus, Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
#1945 [17:12] <EthanE> Remote Desktop, Elystus?
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#1947 [17:13] <Elystus> No need EthanE
#1948 [17:13] <EthanE> ok
#1949 [17:13] <Elystus> EthanE: Follow the instruction on this page to generate a crash report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#1950 [17:13] <Elystus> Marc: Hello :)
#1951 [17:14] <EthanE> OK one moment please
#1952 [17:14] <Elystus> InABetterPlace, do you have a problem that needs fixed?
#1953 [17:14] <Elystus> EthanE: post the report on pastebin.com
#1954 [17:14] <InABetterPlace> Yea sorry
#1955 [17:15] <InABetterPlace> The screen stays black every time I load the classic version for online play
#1956 [17:16] <Elystus> InABetterPlace: We do not offer support for classic minecraft here. If I am still around later, I can try to help. But I know very little about it.
#1957 [17:17] <InABetterPlace> Ok
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#1959 [17:19] <InABetterPlace> Does anybody know about minecraft classic?
#1960 [17:19] <EthanE> Elystus, how do I save it as a batch file? The OS is overriding to keep it .txt
#1961 [17:20] <Elystus> click save as, then there will be a drop down menu labeled as file type. Make the file type all files then name it report.bat
#1962 [17:20] <EthanE> ok
#1963 [17:22] <Marc_IRL> I know I've said this before, but...
#1964 [17:22] <Marc_IRL> WHY do people play Minecraft classic?
#1965 [17:22] <ShaRose> cheap
#1966 [17:22] <Marc_IRL> I would rather play the PC demo over, and over, and over again
#1967 [17:22] <Marc_IRL> er, PC gamer
#1968 [17:23] <Marc_IRL> (but PC demo mode is coming soon)
#1969 [17:23] <ShaRose> ye
#1970 [17:23] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL did you see my commends on the mod repo
#1971 [17:23] <ShaRose> I was hoping that downloading mods from it required a premium account
#1972 [17:23] <Marc_IRL> No, but I noticed you were on the list of people attending
#1973 [17:23] <ShaRose> ye
#1974 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> If the mod APIs suck, I'm going to tell everyone to blame you :-)
#1975 [17:24] <Elystus> CLassic was fun for a while, then I got bored. THen I bought the game :D
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#1977 [17:26] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL I know better than to suggest stuff for the mod api directly, since I'm of the view that mojang is going to do what it wants, and if we want a feature that they don't want there it's tough shit for us :)
#1978 [17:26] <ShaRose> I'm focusing more on the mod repository and stuff
#1979 [17:27] <Elystus> EthanE: I am going to eat some lunch. Just post the pastbin here and I will take a look when I get back.
#1980 [17:27] <Marc_IRL> well, it's bound to be talked about, it's an important component
#1981 [17:27] <Marc_IRL> If you read Notch's blog post about piracy, he basically says "people are going to do whatever, but I can offer premium services that pirates won't get"
#1982 [17:27] <Marc_IRL> Seems like that'd include the mod repository
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#1984 [17:36] <viddy> when i try installing minecraft.....it stops midway and times out the internet connection
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#1987 [17:50] <EthanE> Elystus, Are you still there?
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#1994 [18:18] <Shadic34> Hello?
#1995 [18:18] <Elystus> Hello :)
#1996 [18:19] <Shadic34> Hi can I get some help
#1997 [18:19] <Elystus> Please state your issue :)
#1998 [18:20] <Shadic34> I have previously made a minecraft account and I never used it. I want to make a new one, but it says that the email is already used. can I delete the old account?
#1999 [18:21] <Elystus> There is no way to delete the old account. You can recover the account if you still have access to the email account it is linked to.
#2000 [18:22] <Shadic34> ok thanx
#2001 [18:22] <Shadic34> i'll get a new e-mail.
#2002 [18:22] <Elystus> Username recovery link: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#2003 [18:22] <Elystus> Password reset link: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
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#2005 [19:04] <mcjoe15> I purchased a premium account, it was charged to my account, I was never sent a code and still cannot log in. It says I am not a premium member.
#2006 [19:07] <Moose> http://support.mojang.com/ -- we cannot help with billing issues or support; the best we can do is redirect you to help.
#2007 [19:07] <mcjoe15> where do i go?
#2008 [19:07] <Moose> You click the link best suited to your needs.
#2009 [19:08] <Moose> Hold on
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#2011 [19:10] <Moose> mcjoe15:
#2012 [19:10] <Moose> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151617-payment-troubleshooting-/articles
#2013 [19:10] <mcjoe15> thank you, have a good night
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#2015 [19:11] <Moose> You could also get directly in contact with them about payment issues via http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2016 [19:12] <Elystus> Moose, try not to link Directly to the email page. They should have to go through the article that talks about their issue first.
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#2021 [19:25] <Shadic34> Hi
#2022 [19:25] <Elystus> Hello :)
#2023 [19:25] <lutzee> hey
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#2026 [19:27] <Shadic34> ok.so my minecraft is not working. when I log on, it gives me the Mojang page and then an error report. how do I fix it. i have a legit account.\
#2027 [19:27] <lutzee> Can you paste the error report on pastebin.com and copy the link you get here
#2028 [19:28] <Shadic34> ok one sec.
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#2030 [19:30] <Shadic34> here it is: http://pastebin.com/2u1zaDqK
#2031 [19:31] <lutzee> Shadic34, do you have mods installed? or pirated minecraft?
#2032 [19:32] <Shadic34> nope.
#2033 [19:32] <lutzee> okay well try force updating
#2034 [19:32] <lutzee> ??< index
#2035 [19:33] <lutzee> ?? forceupdate
#2036 [19:33] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2037 [19:33] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2038 [19:33] <Shadic34> ok 1 sec.
#2039 [19:35] <Shadic34> ...updating....
#2040 [19:37] <Shadic34> ...halfway....
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#2042 [19:37] <jediknight7> my minecraft keeps crashing
#2043 [19:38] <Shadic34> THX SO MUCH IT WORKS I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#2056 [21:12] <Hippeman> what is with the account migrating bull?
#2057 [21:13] <Hippeman> I am being fucked at every angle by mojang
#2058 [21:13] * AuBot kicked Hippeman from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ippeman :Please keep it civil.)
#2059 [21:13] <Elystus> >_>
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#2061 [21:14] <Hippeman> can anyone help me with account migrating
#2062 [21:14] <Elystus> What is your issue?
#2063 [21:15] <Hippeman> im encounter a big FU at every turn. i have tried EVERYTHING.
#2064 [21:15] <Elystus> What is the issue?
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#2066 [21:15] <Hippeman> i cant login
#2067 [21:15] <Elystus> what does it say when you try to?
#2068 [21:15] <Hippeman> it says account migrated BUT it HAD to have done automatically. and i have no password for it.
#2069 [21:16] <Elystus> the password will be the same, the username is your email now.
#2070 [21:16] <Hippeman> it said something about a mojang password in an email, but i never got any email.
#2071 [21:16] <Hippeman> i tried that
#2072 [21:16] <Hippeman> believe me
#2073 [21:16] <Hippeman> it wont send passowrd resets
#2074 [21:17] <Hippeman> but i have tried every single one of my passwords
#2075 [21:17] <Elystus> This issue will need to be fixed by Mojang then, please read this article, then email them:
#2076 [21:17] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/507459-i-ve-migrated-and-can-t-log-into-minecraft
#2077 [21:17] <Hippeman> no no non no nononononnonon
#2078 [21:17] <Hippeman> NO
#2079 [21:17] <Hippeman> no more mojang
#2080 [21:17] <Hippeman> there idiots
#2081 [21:17] <Hippeman> its a big loop
#2082 [21:17] <Hippeman> once again i tried that.
#2083 [21:17] <Hippeman> i told you
#2084 [21:17] <Hippeman> EVERYTHING
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#2086 [21:18] <Hippeman> it doesnt send a email verivication
#2087 [21:18] <Elystus> Hippeman, it is not a big loop. If you email them, they will fix it. You need to provide all of your information. Such as Transaction id, email, and what happened.
#2088 [21:18] <Hippeman> I HAVE, like 5 times. over that last month
#2089 [21:18] <Hippeman> NO REPLY
#2090 [21:18] <Elystus> Hippeman: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#2091 [21:19] <Elystus> It takes a little longer, they are still trying to get their customer support set up.
#2092 [21:19] <Hippeman> 1-2 days hmm... im pretty sure that doesnt make up a month. ACTUALLY I THINK IT HAS 30!
#2093 [21:19] <Hippeman> this is REtarded
#2094 [21:19] <Hippeman> mojang is retarded
#2095 [21:20] <Hippeman> i have had this damn account for 2 years and then they pull this crap?
#2096 [21:20] <Hippeman> SERIOUSLY?
#2097 [21:20] <Elystus> Mojang is not retarted, they just gained such sudden popularity that it is hard to set the company up.
#2098 [21:20] <Hippeman> well maybe they should pay attention to shit that matters
#2099 [21:20] <Elystus> Hippeman, just be patient. Yelling and calling them retarted will get you now where.
#2100 [21:21] <Hippeman> this shit aint getting me no where
#2101 [21:21] <Elystus> Hippeman, they are. They are slowly cutting down the response time.
#2102 [21:21] <Hippeman> its been a damn month bro
#2103 [21:21] <Hippeman> Seriously
#2104 [21:21] <Hippeman> a month
#2105 [21:21] <Hippeman> NOT
#2106 [21:21] <Hippeman> COOL
#2107 [21:21] <Hippeman> ATALL
#2108 [21:21] <Hippeman> when i go to the verify email it sends me to the login screen
#2109 [21:22] <Elystus> You have done all you can from the sounds of it. Just play a diffrent game for the time being.
#2110 [21:22] <Hippeman> when i do password reset it says success and never sends, i got it once set my pass and tried to login but it didnt work
#2111 [21:22] <Elystus> The issue will get fixed, it is just a matter of time.
#2112 [21:22] <Hippeman> o.o
#2113 [21:22] <Hippeman> -.-
#2114 [21:22] <Hippeman> >:
#2115 [21:22] <Hippeman> ya know
#2116 [21:22] <Hippeman> i think im just gonna go torrent minecraft
#2117 [21:22] <Hippeman> then i dont have to deal with this
#2118 [21:23] <Hippeman> Bullshit
#2119 [21:24] <Hippeman> so how long exactly am i supposed to wait for? before i go insane
#2120 [21:24] <Hippeman> or so pissed off i kill someone
#2121 [21:24] <Hippeman> cuz this is mojangs fault
#2122 [21:24] <Elystus> You should get a response within a few weeks. Like I said, go play a diffrent game or something.
#2123 [21:24] <Hippeman> BRo
#2124 [21:24] <Hippeman> I Shouldn't HAVE TO
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#2126 [21:25] <Hippeman> becasue they messed up
#2127 [21:25] <Hippeman> they did this not me
#2128 [21:25] <Hippeman> i never messed with my account
#2129 [21:25] <Hippeman> i just palyed on it
#2130 [21:25] <Hippeman> played*
#2131 [21:25] <Elystus> Hippeman: They cannot prevent every issue. This could partially be user error as well. If you made a typo in your email it could mess everything up. Most of these issues are typos.
#2132 [21:26] <Hippeman> i didnt migrate my account
#2133 [21:26] <Hippeman> they did
#2134 [21:26] <Hippeman> so if there is an error it is them
#2135 [21:26] <Hippeman> i know how to type my damn email
#2136 [21:26] <Hippeman> thats like asking me if i know my name
#2137 [21:26] <Hippeman> thats like asking me if i know my name
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#2139 [21:27] <Elystus> Yes, but it is very easy to make a typo. Such as add an extra t or something. Whatever the issue is, it will get fixed. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go eat dinner.
#2140 [21:27] <Hippeman> douche.bag58@yahoo.com
#2141 [21:27] <Hippeman> there
#2142 [21:27] <Hippeman> typed it
#2143 [21:27] <Hippeman> no typos
#2144 [21:27] <Hippeman> copy paste doesnt make typos i do believe
#2145 [21:28] <Hippeman> unless there is some new thing
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#2147 [21:29] <weeone> zoo, my beautiful world and creations are now all covered in snow and all my water things are ice. Is there any good way to fix this or is all that work just…for naught?
#2148 [21:35] <Hippeman> dude
#2149 [21:35] <Hippeman> dont ask stupid questions
#2150 [21:35] <Hippeman> how about we keep this non retarded questions
#2151 [21:35] <weeone> who?
#2152 [21:35] <Hippeman> you dumbshit
#2153 [21:36] <weeone> right…so what is the answer?
#2154 [21:36] <Hippeman> mods
#2155 [21:36] <weeone> the world didn't start out with any snow or neither was the water frozen
#2156 [21:36] <Hippeman> if u hit f3 it should say the biome
#2157 [21:37] <Hippeman> if its tundra or tagia it will snow
#2158 [21:37] <Hippeman> otherwise
#2159 [21:37] <weeone> any particular reason it didn't snow at first?
#2160 [21:37] <Hippeman> dl biome changing mods
#2161 [21:37] <Hippeman> idk
#2162 [21:37] <Hippeman> mojang sucks
#2163 [21:37] <Hippeman> prolly a good reason
#2164 [21:38] <Hippeman> i cant even play my account so be happy
#2165 [21:38] <weeone> biome changing mods, got it...
#2166 [21:38] <Hippeman> weatherman i think i used
#2167 [21:38] <Hippeman> nvm
#2168 [21:38] <Hippeman> just server lol
#2169 [21:40] <Hippeman> weeone
#2170 [21:41] <Hippeman> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1081146-biomechanger-v006/
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#2175 [22:03] <Sticky> Hey, all. I have an issue that I've been trying to deal with for a while now. I just bought Minecraft today and I have yet to run it. I get the startup window with just a gray screen (no news) and I'm not able to click the fields to enter my login. Update Java and video card. Anyone able to help me troubleshoot? :3
#2176 [22:04] <Elystus> Do you have java 7?
#2177 [22:04] <Sticky> Yes, 7, update 5
#2178 [22:05] <Elystus> one moment, we will have to create a bat file. In the mean time, can you download minecraft.jar from here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#2179 [22:06] <Sticky> Got it. Thanks for responding.
#2180 [22:06] <Elystus> Sticky, is your java folder located in program files(x86) or program files?
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#2182 [22:06] <Sticky> Program files
#2183 [22:06] <Elystus> Okay, then open note pad
#2184 [22:06] <Infinite> anyone here that was helping me last night with environmental factors and java ETC... I have good news.
#2185 [22:06] <Elystus> put this in it: "c:\program files\java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#2186 [22:07] <Elystus> Hey Infinite :)
#2187 [22:07] <Elystus> What! :D
#2188 [22:07] <Infinite> You won't belive this... Minecraft wasn't working because the launcher was in a folder...
#2189 [22:07] <Infinite> I put it into this folder it stops... Pull it out it works.
#2190 [22:07] <Elystus> Really! Thats it?
#2191 [22:07] <Infinite> Yah haha.
#2192 [22:07] <auscompgeek> try using Java 6 then
#2193 [22:07] <Infinite> My OCD was causing minecraft not to work.
#2194 [22:07] <Elystus> auscompgeek: No,
#2195 [22:07] <Infinite> Whouda -thunk.
#2196 [22:08] <Infinite> TY for help last night anyways... Good bye.
#2197 [22:08] <Elystus> Cya :)
#2198 [22:08] <Elystus> Sticky, is your minecraft launcher in a folder?
#2199 [22:08] <auscompgeek> Elystus: I'm lagged :/
#2200 [22:08] <Sticky> Hehe, nope. Desktop
#2201 [22:08] <Elystus> Okay, so we will continue with said plan
#2202 [22:08] <Sticky> Alright, have it in notepad
#2203 [22:09] <Elystus> then go to save as, save it as minecraft launcher.bat then below that click the drop down(file types) and choose the all files option.
#2204 [22:09] <Elystus> minecraft_launcher.bat
#2205 [22:09] <Elystus> is the name it should be
#2206 [22:10] <Sticky> got it
#2207 [22:10] <Sticky> run?
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#2209 [22:10] <Elystus> yes
#2210 [22:10] <Sticky> done
#2211 [22:10] <Elystus> worked?
#2212 [22:10] <Sticky> nothing launched. Lemme take a look
#2213 [22:11] <Sticky> WEll, I got the cmd to pop for a split second
#2214 [22:11] <Elystus> did you download the file I linked earlier?
#2215 [22:11] <Bruce> I am getting a Minecraft error and I will copy paste the beggining
#2216 [22:11] <Sticky> Yep
#2217 [22:11] <Bruce> A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#2218 [22:11] <Elystus> are they both on desktop? (the .bat and .jar)
#2219 [22:11] <Sticky> Yes, both. Should I move them?
#2220 [22:11] <Elystus> Bruce paste the whole thing on pastebin.com
#2221 [22:11] <Bruce> tI have runtime environment
#2222 [22:12] <Bruce> oookay
#2223 [22:12] <Elystus> Sticky: No, can you copy paste what is in the bat file?
#2224 [22:12] <Sticky> c:\program files\java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1G -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame 2> errorlog.txt
#2225 [22:12] <Sticky> Do I need quotes
#2226 [22:12] <Elystus> yes
#2227 [22:12] <Elystus> the quote needs to be there at the start
#2228 [22:12] <Sticky> ../facepalm
#2229 [22:12] <Elystus> no quote at the end
#2230 [22:12] <Elystus> ;)
#2231 [22:12] <Bruce> Whats stickys problem
#2232 [22:12] <Elystus> Bruce it is a diffrent one most likely.
#2233 [22:13] <Elystus> different*
#2234 [22:13] <Sticky> Alrighty, it launched the same as if I had clicked it. I had already set the runtime to 2G to help with the problem.
#2235 [22:13] <Bruce> I acciendlty downloaded a Mac runtime, but I deleted it and I do have the windows
#2236 [22:13] <Sticky> But it's just sitting there, gray top, black bottom
#2237 [22:14] <Elystus> Sticky, mind if we use teamviewer?
#2238 [22:14] <Sticky> Not at all
#2239 [22:14] <Elystus> Do you have it?
#2240 [22:14] <Sticky> yezir/ma'am
#2241 [22:14] <Elystus> can you pm me the details :)
#2242 [22:14] <Sticky> Sure thing
#2243 [22:15] <Bruce> Oh, and the error message pops up in a notepad document on the monitor desktop
#2244 [22:15] <Elystus> Can you post the error message on pastebin.com Bruce?
#2245 [22:16] <Bruce> oh
#2246 [22:16] <Bruce> I was about 2
#2247 [22:16] <Bruce> tya
#2248 [22:16] <Bruce> I pasted it
#2249 [22:16] <Bruce> but what else to I do
#2250 [22:17] <Bruce> new to help and most other techical stuff srry :)
#2251 [22:17] <Bruce> nvm
#2252 [22:17] <Bruce> Pasted it
#2253 [22:18] <Bruce> and pressed submit
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#2255 [22:18] <Bruce> hi
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#2257 [22:18] <V3l0> I have a question about my Minecraft, something seems to be wrong with the game on my computer recently and its really frustrating...
#2258 [22:18] <Elystus> Bruce: can you give us the link :)
#2259 [22:19] <Elystus> V3l0: what exactly is happening?
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#2261 [22:19] <Bruce> ... Im a derp
#2262 [22:19] <Bruce> thttp://pastebin.com/tAtwK9ux
#2263 [22:19] <Bruce> srry
#2264 [22:19] <Bruce> Normal Im more on ttop of things
#2265 [22:19] <Bruce> but Im kinda tired
#2266 [22:19] <Elystus> Its fine Bruce, I understand.
#2267 [22:20] <Bruce> :)
#2268 [22:20] <V3l0> So, when i open minecraft it runs fine for about 3 minutes. Then it starts to lag and skip a frame every 2 seconds or so, rendering the game unplayable which is extremely frustrating
#2269 [22:20] <V3l0> this only started happening recently
#2270 [22:20] <Elystus> Bruce: the error is with your graphics card
#2271 [22:20] <Bruce> Update it?
#2272 [22:20] <V3l0> and yes, I've tried it with optifine and without
#2273 [22:20] <Elystus> yes
#2274 [22:20] <Bruce> Happened to me v3, but Idk what it is
#2275 [22:20] <V3l0> You think updating the graphics card will fix the fps skips?
#2276 [22:20] <Elystus> V3l0: has this always been an issue?
#2277 [22:20] <Bruce> thanks a lot Elystus
#2278 [22:20] <V3l0> No, Elystus, it only just started recently
#2279 [22:21] <Elystus> Bruce if you need help finding the newer drivers, just let me know :)
#2280 [22:21] <Bruce> It only started once I downloaded a mac file accidently
#2281 [22:21] <Bruce> it worked before that
#2282 [22:21] <V3l0> "Mac"? you mean like the computer made by apple?
#2283 [22:21] <Bruce> ya
#2284 [22:21] <Bruce> I have windows
#2285 [22:22] <Bruce> t7
#2286 [22:22] <V3l0> I did nothing to my Minecraft, just one day i go on to one of my worlds and it was fine for a little while and then it freezes for a split second every 2 seconds or so
#2287 [22:22] <V3l0> you think that updating the graphics card will fix this?
#2288 [22:22] <Bruce> Proggresifly more choppey?
#2289 [22:22] <V3l0> Yea, kind of
#2290 [22:22] <Bruce> and it works after you restart MC
#2291 [22:23] <Bruce> but if u exit to menu and get on it still lags
#2292 [22:23] <Bruce> ?
#2293 [22:23] <V3l0> After i restart MC its fine for another 2 to 3 minutes and then it begins to skip frames or something or other
#2294 [22:23] <V3l0> and no it doesnt skip at the menu
#2295 [22:23] <Bruce> on menu or only world
#2296 [22:23] <V3l0> only in Singleplayer and multiplayer
#2297 [22:23] <V3l0> not at the main menu
#2298 [22:23] <Elystus> V3l0: create a new world and see if it happens there.
#2299 [22:23] <Bruce> It wil
#2300 [22:23] <V3l0> It does
#2301 [22:23] <Bruce> it happened to me
#2302 [22:24] <Bruce> but then I got my cpu back
#2303 [22:24] <Bruce> (aremy move)
#2304 [22:24] <V3l0> every world online or off
#2305 [22:24] <Bruce> ya, I didnt know how to fix that
#2306 [22:24] <Bruce> I would try to get a better java
#2307 [22:24] <Bruce> or update driver
#2308 [22:25] <Bruce> Did u make any downloads before it started?
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#2310 [22:26] <Bruce> hi
#2311 [22:26] <V3l0> no it just started one day
#2312 [22:26] <Bruce> okay
#2313 [22:26] <V3l0> i have the newest java, idk about my driver
#2314 [22:26] <Bruce> Is it Nvidia?
#2315 [22:27] <Elystus> Bruce, were you able to get the newer drivers?
#2316 [22:27] <Bruce> what??? I went to update driver and then It said I was missing nessisary java...
#2317 [22:27] <Bruce> But that may be the fix
#2318 [22:28] <Bruce> oh, I was trying to update it
#2319 [22:28] <Bruce> So ima download the java
#2320 [22:28] <Elystus> ??> Bruce win/dxdiag
#2321 [22:28] <VoxelHead> Bruce: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2322 [22:28] <VoxelHead> Bruce: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2323 [22:28] <Bruce> I already know it
#2324 [22:28] <V3l0> Yes, my card is Nvidia
#2325 [22:28] <Bruce> Nvida Geforce 8600 GT
#2326 [22:29] <Bruce> Whats the model V3
#2327 [22:29] <Bruce> iI know how to update drivers
#2328 [22:29] <Bruce> :)
#2329 [22:30] <Bruce> And make mah own server
#2330 [22:30] <Bruce> :)
#2331 [22:30] <Bruce> but it was an auto installer
#2332 [22:30] <Bruce> whatever back on topic now
#2333 [22:30] <Bruce> ?
#2334 [22:31] <V3l0> mr driver?
#2335 [22:31] <Bruce> Nvidia says I dont have java, java says I do
#2336 [22:31] <V3l0> me driver*
#2337 [22:31] <Bruce> yes
#2338 [22:31] <Bruce> tand I believe it is MY driver
#2339 [22:31] <Bruce> :)
#2340 [22:31] <V3l0> oh ok. not sure how to check... i now it's Nvidia
#2341 [22:31] <V3l0> know8
#2342 [22:31] <V3l0> know*
#2343 [22:31] <Elystus> Bruce: 64 or 32 bit?
#2344 [22:31] <V3l0> wow. i cannot type haha...
#2345 [22:31] <V3l0> 64.
#2346 [22:31] <Bruce> Idk what mine is
#2347 [22:31] <Bruce> I think 64
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#2349 [22:31] <Bruce> Hi
#2350 [22:32] <Bruce> why are some ppls nametags red and others not? Just akin...
#2351 [22:32] <Bruce> asking
#2352 [22:32] <Elystus> Bruce press start and right clikc on computer. Then choose properties?
#2353 [22:32] <Bruce> ok
#2354 [22:32] <Elystus> Who has a red name tag?
#2355 [22:32] <Bruce> you and VoxelHead
#2356 [22:32] <Ken> the game keeps crashing on me after 3-4 mins of play. Been playing for 5 days and this is the 1st time its starting doing it
#2357 [22:33] <Bruce> Dont know ken
#2358 [22:33] <Bruce> Update drivers though
#2359 [22:33] <Ken> could the drivers be out of date jsut in the last 30 mins ?
#2360 [22:33] <Bruce> any downloads before the issue?
#2361 [22:33] <Bruce> maybe
#2362 [22:33] <langkid1> memory problems :o
#2363 [22:33] <Bruce> update RAM
#2364 [22:33] <Ken> thx
#2365 [22:34] <Bruce> whatd I say that fixed it??
#2366 [22:34] <Elystus> ??> Sticky win/dxdiag
#2367 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Sticky: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2368 [22:34] <VoxelHead> Sticky: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2369 [22:34] <Bruce> now ur nametags arent red...
#2370 [22:34] <Bruce> I are confuzed
#2371 [22:35] <Elystus> Lol, Bruce, did you find out if it is 64 or 32 bit?
#2372 [22:35] <Bruce> Okay, Ima try MC now...
#2373 [22:35] <Elystus> Oh...
#2374 [22:35] <Bruce> RAAAARRG
#2375 [22:35] <V3l0> wait who was helping me to begin with....?
#2376 [22:35] <Bruce> didnt work
#2377 [22:35] <Bruce> Idk
#2378 [22:35] <Bruce> us
#2379 [22:35] <Bruce> mainly Elystus
#2380 [22:35] <V3l0> So what do you recommend i do to stop the skips?
#2381 [22:36] <Elystus> you could try alloting more ram. I can help you do that after I am done with Sticky and Bruce.
#2382 [22:36] <Bruce> Update drivers, delete anything u downloaded directly be4 the issue (unless its nessesary)
#2383 [22:36] <Elystus> Bruce: click start and right click on computer. Then click properties.
#2384 [22:36] <Bruce> Get latest Java runtime maybe?
#2385 [22:36] <Bruce> oh
#2386 [22:37] <Elystus> It will tell you if you have 32 or 64 bit
#2387 [22:37] <Bruce> im running on 7
#2388 [22:37] <Bruce> There is no properties
#2389 [22:37] <V3l0> how do i update my driver?
#2390 [22:37] <Bruce> Go to nvidia
#2391 [22:37] <V3l0> .com?
#2392 [22:37] <Elystus> Bruce can you do the dxdiag from earlier. It wil be easier.
#2393 [22:38] <Bruce> ?
#2394 [22:38] <Bruce> for bits
#2395 [22:38] <Bruce> Im 90% sure its 64
#2396 [22:38] <Bruce> ya
#2397 [22:38] <Bruce> It is 64
#2398 [22:39] <Bruce> so uhh... what did that just accomplish?
#2399 [22:39] <Elystus> Bruce: this is the most current driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-301.42-whql-driver.html
#2400 [22:39] <Bruce> Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT
#2401 [22:39] <Bruce> I already put it down
#2402 [22:39] <Bruce> :)
#2403 [22:39] <Elystus> Delete your current drivers and download this one.
#2404 [22:39] <Bruce> twhhhhaaaa
#2405 [22:39] <Bruce> MC worked
#2406 [22:39] <Bruce> on my driver
#2407 [22:40] <Bruce> and then I deleted a java file
#2408 [22:40] <Bruce> really sorry if Im seeming stubborn
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#2410 [22:40] <V3l0_> how do i update my graphics card??????
#2411 [22:40] <Bruce> Go to the websiite
#2412 [22:40] <V3l0_> Nvidia.com?
#2413 [22:40] <Bruce> if its nvidia
#2414 [22:40] <Bruce> www.nvidia.com
#2415 [22:41] <V3l0_> k now what.
#2416 [22:41] <Bruce> http://www.geforce.com/drivers
#2417 [22:41] <Elystus> V3l0_: lets find out what graphics card you have. (exact one)
#2418 [22:42] <Elystus> ??> V3l0 win/dxdiag
#2419 [22:42] <VoxelHead> V3l0: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2420 [22:42] <VoxelHead> V3l0: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2421 [22:42] <Bruce> search run also
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#2423 [22:42] <Bruce> it also works
#2424 [22:42] <V3l0__> should i run the auto detect to see if it knows my driver?
#2425 [22:42] <Bruce> Where are you in ur system/ online?
#2426 [22:42] <Bruce> ...
#2427 [22:43] <Bruce> ?
#2428 [22:43] <Bruce> it says my driver is up to date
#2429 [22:43] <Bruce> I are confused
#2430 [22:44] <Elystus> Bruce, it would help a lot to get the dxdiag. That way I can fully determine what is going in with your graphics card.
#2431 [22:44] <Bruce> whatever Im downloading it anyway
#2432 [22:44] <Bruce> okay
#2433 [22:44] <Bruce> yessir
#2434 [22:44] <Bruce> what do u want to know
#2435 [22:45] <Elystus> can you pastebin it?
#2436 [22:45] <Bruce> there are multiple tabs
#2437 [22:45] <Bruce> what tab should I paste
#2438 [22:46] <Bruce> system. display 1, D 2, sound one, s 2, input
#2439 [22:46] <Elystus> click save. It will create a file, then you can open that and paste all of the contents.
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#2441 [22:46] <V3l0> bruce you still here?
#2442 [22:46] <V3l0> My computer crashed when i tried searching for my driver.
#2443 [22:47] <Bruce> hrmph
#2444 [22:47] <Bruce> I dont knopw
#2445 [22:47] <Bruce> do it manual
#2446 [22:47] <Bruce> okay Im about to paste it
#2447 [22:47] <Bruce> eerr, is it possible to hack with this info?
#2448 [22:48] <Elystus> No it is not.
#2449 [22:48] <V3l0> not with graphics card info.
#2450 [22:48] <Bruce> okay
#2451 [22:48] <Bruce> srry
#2452 [22:48] <Bruce> buy my dad would be very angry if I got a second virus
#2453 [22:48] <Bruce> :)
#2454 [22:48] <Bruce> *but
#2455 [22:49] <Bruce> http://pastebin.com/LeUgD6Jn
#2456 [22:50] <V3l0> I cant get the manual thing to work. The website is sketchy, its prone to freezes
#2457 [22:50] <Bruce> ooh
#2458 [22:50] <V3l0> How do i just check my driver like through my control panel?
#2459 [22:50] <Bruce> dx diag
#2460 [22:50] <Bruce> truly I dont know
#2461 [22:50] <V3l0> what?
#2462 [22:50] <Bruce> nv,
#2463 [22:50] <Bruce> nvm
#2464 [22:50] <Bruce> Uhh
#2465 [22:50] <Bruce> whats your model
#2466 [22:50] <Bruce> oh
#2467 [22:51] <Bruce> right
#2468 [22:51] <Elystus> ??> V3l0 win/dxdiag
#2469 [22:51] <VoxelHead> V3l0: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2470 [22:51] <VoxelHead> V3l0: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2471 [22:51] <Bruce> hi voxel
#2472 [22:51] <Bruce> :)
#2473 [22:51] <Elystus> pastebin has been used thousands of times on this channel. There is nothing bad about it, it jsut makes it easier for us to determine the problem.
#2474 [22:52] <V3l0> win key...? Im sorry im really good with computers and i dont even know what the win key is
#2475 [22:52] <Bruce> ya, that I knew but I just dont always feel comfortable posting info on websites even if it is not gonna do anything
#2476 [22:52] <Bruce> call it a phobia if u want
#2477 [22:52] <Sticky> V310, things may be easier to google, especially for simpler issues like locating a key on the keyboard. :)
#2478 [22:52] <Bruce> lol
#2479 [22:52] <V3l0> Hm.. there is no "Win" key on the keyboard lol.
#2480 [22:52] <Bruce> I didnt even know sticky was still o
#2481 [22:53] <Bruce> the windows flag
#2482 [22:53] <Bruce> next to alt
#2483 [22:53] <V3l0> mother of god..
#2484 [22:53] <Bruce> and crtl
#2485 [22:53] <Elystus> I am in a pm with him Bruce :P
#2486 [22:53] <Bruce> ooh
#2487 [22:53] <SinZ> ??> V3l0 win/winkey
#2488 [22:53] <Bruce> kewl
#2489 [22:53] <SinZ> ??> V3l0 win/key
#2490 [22:53] <VoxelHead> V3l0: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#2491 [22:53] <V3l0> i know what the win key is i was blanking.
#2492 [22:53] <Bruce> :)
#2493 [22:53] <Bruce> I do that to
#2494 [22:54] <V3l0> i can tell you my graphics card if you want.
#2495 [22:54] <Bruce> ok
#2496 [22:54] <Bruce> tell me
#2497 [22:54] <V3l0> Nvidia Quadro FX 570M
#2498 [22:54] <Bruce> Never heard
#2499 [22:54] <Bruce> but
#2500 [22:54] <Bruce> I can still help I think
#2501 [22:55] <Bruce> I sent you to the Geforce update
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#2503 [22:55] <Bruce> so
#2504 [22:55] <Bruce> Ima give you link in a sec
#2505 [22:55] <Bruce> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
#2506 [22:55] <Bruce> tthats may help
#2507 [22:55] <Bruce> *may*
#2508 [22:55] <Elystus> V3l0 do you have 32 or 64 bit?
#2509 [22:56] <Bruce> okay I have to go
#2510 [22:56] <Bruce> Good bye
#2511 [22:56] <Elystus> okay, bye
#2512 [22:57] <V3l0> I have 64 bit, Elystus
#2513 [22:57] <Elystus> http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-296.88-whql-driver.html
#2514 [22:58] <Elystus> thats the driver you are looking for.
#2515 [22:58] <V3l0> Alright ill check back in a bit to give more feedback as to if that helped
#2516 [22:58] <V3l0> thanks for the help thus far :)
#2517 [22:58] <Elystus> okay :)
#2518 [23:05] <duilder28> thank you tikker. so far the bat file has worked and im up and running
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#2521 [23:09] <V3l0_> No that did nothing to help at all. Should i send you a screen shot of the lag bar jumping up and down?
#2522 [23:09] <Elystus> yes actually.
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#2525 [23:23] <kabukun> I'm trying and failing to purchase Minecraft: I've tried my debit card and both credit cards I own, to no avail. Seeing as all are functional, I'm wondering if perhaps minecraft's payment system is down at the moment?
#2526 [23:23] * Ethan [Ethan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2527 [23:23] <Ethan> i need help
#2528 [23:24] <Ethan> can someone help me
#2529 [23:24] * tylerethansfriend [tylerethansfriend@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2530 [23:25] <kabukun> Ethan, read what AuBot said when you entered. "-AuBot- JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION, IF WE CAN HELP WE WILL."
#2531 [23:25] <kabukun> (I'm waiting for help too)
#2532 [23:25] <tylerethansfriend> we need help some a hole came on our server spawned a bunch of ish and it froze help
#2533 [23:25] <Ethan> ^what he said
#2534 [23:26] <Elystus> type stop in the server console
#2535 [23:27] <Elystus> get mcedit and edit the chunk where he spawned stuff out
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#2537 [23:27] <Elystus> actually a simple delete all entities should work if he spawned items.
#2538 [23:28] <tylerethansfriend> he spawned creepers and ghasts
#2539 [23:28] <Elystus> stop the server
#2540 [23:28] <Ethan> i did
#2541 [23:28] <Elystus> go to server.properties
#2542 [23:28] <Ethan> okay
#2543 [23:28] <Elystus> set difficulty to 0
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#2545 [23:28] <Elystus> save and restart
#2546 [23:29] <Ethan> okay
#2547 [23:29] <hapgoat> i need some major help with a server
#2548 [23:29] <tylerethansfriend> lets try
#2549 [23:29] <hapgoat> there is a big section of the map that looks like it has just been cut out
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#2551 [23:29] <hapgoat> its just all full of water
#2552 [23:29] <callofduty1435> hi
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#2554 [23:29] <callofduty1435> i need help
#2555 [23:30] <hapgoat> and the land/ mountain that should be there just drops out
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#2557 [23:30] <callofduty1435> can someone help me?
#2558 [23:30] <tylerethansfriend> it didnt work elystus
#2559 [23:31] <hapgoat> any one knows how to fix the world thing?
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#2561 [23:32] <callofduty1435> i get a black screen
#2562 [23:32] <callofduty1435> i deleted my bin'
#2563 [23:32] <tylerethansfriend> elythtus it didnt work
#2564 [23:32] <tylerethansfriend> help
#2565 [23:32] <tylerethansfriend> please
#2566 [23:32] <callofduty1435> and sill get one
#2567 [23:33] <callofduty1435> then i forced updated
#2568 [23:33] <callofduty1435> still black screen
#2569 [23:33] <hapgoat> ill help someone if someone helps me
#2570 [23:33] <callofduty1435> then i reinstalled MC
#2571 [23:33] <callofduty1435> still get a black screen
#2572 [23:33] <callofduty1435> can anyone help me??
#2573 [23:33] <tylerethansfriend> f u
#2574 [23:33] <callofduty1435> ??
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#2576 [23:35] <tylerethansfriend> need help someone came into our server and spawned stuff like a bunch of ghasts and creepers what to do please help
#2577 [23:35] <kabukun> It seems like people here can help with technical problems, but not with payment issues, right? I just want Minecraft to take my money! :(
#2578 [23:35] <kabukun> It seems like people here can help with technical problems, but not with payment issues, right? I just want Minecraft to take my money! :(
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#2580 [23:36] <callofduty1435> tyler did u OP him?
#2581 [23:37] <tylerethansfriend> need help someone came into our server and spawned stuff like a bunch of ghasts and creepers what to do please help
#2582 [23:37] <tylerethansfriend> need help someone came into our server and spawned stuff like a bunch of ghasts and creepers what to do please help
#2583 [23:37] <tylerethansfriend> need help someone came into our server and spawned stuff like a bunch of ghasts and creepers what to do please help
#2584 [23:37] <callofduty1435> tyler did u OP him?
#2585 [23:37] <Ethan> yes
#2586 [23:37] <Ethan> or actually no he had a hacked client
#2587 [23:37] <callofduty1435> ur peobeably dealing with a hacker
#2588 [23:37] <tylerethansfriend> ethans my friend
#2589 [23:37] <callofduty1435> probably*
#2590 [23:38] <tylerethansfriend> no ish
#2591 [23:38] <callofduty1435> do u run the server off ur computer or have a host?
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#2593 [23:40] * Scott looks up and confusedfaces.
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#2594 [23:42] <TROLLFACE1010101> no sound but the volume is up on my minecrft settings
#2595 [23:43] <TROLLFACE1010101> aloo on my computer
#2596 [23:43] <TROLLFACE1010101> ...also
#2597 [23:43] <TROLLFACE1010101> .
#2598 [23:44] <langkid1> TROLLFACE1010101, try restarting Minecraft
#2599 [23:44] <langkid1> it happens sometimes
#2600 [23:44] <langkid1> if that doesn't work check detailed sound settings (assuming you're on windows)
#2601 [23:44] <langkid1> If THAT doesn't work I'd fall back to a restart and a google.
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#2603 [23:47] <Sissy1> how do i get a refund
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#2605 [23:48] <Scott> Minecraft doesn't give refunds.
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#2607 [23:49] <langkid1> Ever.
#2608 [23:49] <langkid1> I think...
#2609 [23:49] <Sissy1> 'great....ok thank you
#2610 [23:50] <langkid1> have fun!
#2611 [23:50] <langkid1> Sissy1, if you can't play MC for whatever reason just tell us the prob. and I'm sure we can help out! :D
#2612 [23:53] <Sissy1> my kid had MC mobile and loved it. so she bought the computer version. the game lags, and she's so frustrated and sad she spent all her money on this game.
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#2614 [23:54] <callofduty1435> i need help
#2615 [23:54] <callofduty1435> i get a black screen
#2616 [23:54] <callofduty1435> i deleted my bin'
#2617 [23:54] <callofduty1435> and sill get one
#2618 [23:54] <callofduty1435> i force updated
#2619 [23:54] <callofduty1435> and still black screen
#2620 [23:55] <callofduty1435> i even reinstalled the game
#2621 [23:55] <callofduty1435> can someone help plz?
#2622 [23:56] <callofduty1435> anyone?
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#2624 [23:57] <sockmister> would anyone happen to have a link to where you actually download the optifine mod?
#2625 [23:57] <sockmister> there are a lot of different links in google
#2626 [23:57] <sockmister> i can't figure out which one is right.
#2627 [23:58] <Scott> We don't support mods here.
#2628 [23:58] <Scott> Look on the forums.
#2629 [23:58] <sockmister> yea, i know
#2630 [23:58] <sockmister> but i figured someone would help me find the right link
#2631 [23:58] <Scott> callofduty1435: Learn to be patient.
#2632 [23:58] <Scott> Sissy1: What OS do you use?
#2633 [23:58] <sockmister> windows
#2634 [23:58] <callofduty1435> Scott its been like that for almost 3 days now
#2635 [23:58] <Scott> sockmister: Not you. Look on the forums.
#2636 [23:58] <sockmister> win 7
#2637 [23:59] <TROLLFACE1010101> sound wont wprk
#2638 [23:59] <TROLLFACE1010101> ...work
#2639 [23:59] <TROLLFACE1010101> and where should i get texturepacks