#MineCraftHelp IRC Chat Logs

#1 [00:00] <zoecat> i can log into minecraft but i cant go on any servers and everytime i play on singleplayer it crashes or runs out of memory
#2 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> zoecat: Can we take a look at a dxdiag report?
#3 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> zoecat win/dxdiag
#4 [00:01] <VoxelHead> zoecat: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#5 [00:01] <VoxelHead> zoecat: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#6 [00:04] <zoecat> http://mibpaste.com/IlBWtv
#7 [00:05] <zoecat> that?
#8 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> Thanks for that, and which texture packs do you use?
#9 [00:06] <zoecat> Wolfhound, Glartpack, Villancraft
#10 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> thanks for that. Any mods?
#11 [00:06] <zoecat> rei's minimap simply horses and singleplayer commands
#12 [00:07] <Elystus> Disk: Hard ware is no the problem from the sound of it.
#13 [00:07] <Elystus> not*
#14 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> Thanks. It does seem like you will need to increase the memory available to Minecraft due to those. Not mubh, but enough so that it dosn't run low on resources.
#15 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> I'll see if I can find some info relating to the texture packs. We don't provide any mod support here though.
#16 [00:08] <zoecat> <html><body> <center>Failed to update news java.net.SocketException: Address family not supported by protocol family: connect</center></body></html>
#17 [00:08] <zoecat> thats what it says insted of the update news and stuff
#18 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> zoecat: Please see this for a solution: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#19 [00:08] <Elystus> Java is the issue
#20 [00:09] <Elystus> Go to the link given by disk
#21 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> Fortunately, that's not a texture or mod issue.
#22 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> zoecat: For memory issues, glartpack provides you with info and links on how to deal with memory issues at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#23 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> No, not that one.
#24 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> Glartpack memory issues are covered in http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/127377-16x-32x-64x-128x-256x12-lb-photo-realism-124-update-3292012/
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#26 [00:14] <zoecat> thanks
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#30 [00:30] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/FYAW
#31 [00:33] <kitsune> Hi, I was trying to run a a server (v1.2.5, no mods of any kind) and while it worked yesterday, after restarting it failed to work. I get permission denied errors so I tried chmod 777 on some miscellaneous files, but still no good: my configuration isn't loaded, it remains default (Calling the level "world", ignoring my MOTD, etc...) I pasted the output at pastebin.com/b5NtJfSe
#32 [00:34] <kitsune> Even running as root (a big no-no, I'm aware, but it was just for the purpose of seeing if that could overcome the errors) failed to load the proper configuration data, though the server started without the errors seen at http://pastebin.comb5NtJfSe/
#33 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> I'd say to nuke everything and start again
#34 [00:35] <kitsune> Is there a way I could keep my worlduser data while nuking it? I'd feel pretty bad about making everyone start over
#35 [00:36] <kitsune> *world's user data
#36 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> Move it to a backup location. Get miencraft working first, and then introducte troubles to it afterwards
#37 [00:38] <kitsune> Should I copy... data, DIM1, DIM-1 level.dat, players, and region to make sure all information is saved? Or simply level.dat
#38 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> backup all of the world data
#39 [00:39] <kitsune> alright
#40 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> which means all of what is within the world folder
#41 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> You can't get it back if you don't back it up.
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#43 [00:46] <kitsune> DiskDaemon: Well, I tried chmod one last time and it works, but I still have an odd error. I'm still considering a fresh install but I was wondering if you could possibly discern anything about what went wrong to begin with from this: http://pastebin.com/iWzqDv6q
#44 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> kitsune: Reinstall.
#45 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> ??> kitsune linux/reinst
#46 [00:46] <VoxelHead> kitsune: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#47 [00:46] <VoxelHead> kitsune: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#48 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> That won't remove any of the world files
#49 [00:47] <kitsune> I am reinstalling... I was just curious about what I did wrong to begin with...
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#51 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> well the rm class is the RegionFile one, so it still seems to be having trouble
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#53 [00:52] <kitsune> Thank you very much for your time DiskDaemon, I appreciate it
#54 [00:52] <kitsune> Goodbye!
#55 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#56 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
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#61 [01:15] <Christian_> why cant i get a verification email?
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#78 [02:39] <gh515> minecraft wnt load after i tried downloading a mod pack... ive deleted minecraft and re downloaed it but i t still wont work!!
#79 [02:41] <gh515> somebody please help!?!?
#80 [02:41] <Wug> :fu
#81 [02:41] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#82 [02:41] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#83 [02:41] <gh515> ok let me try this!
#84 [02:44] <gh515> wugbot...THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!!!!!
#85 [02:45] <gh515> i am addicted to this game and i was freaking out lol!
#86 [02:45] <zack6849> lol wugbot is a robot...
#87 [02:45] <zack6849> :fu
#88 [02:45] <WugBot> fu: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#89 [02:45] <WugBot> fu: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#90 [02:45] <zack6849> wug is the one you thank :P
#91 [02:46] * Wug bows
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#94 [02:50] <gh515> well i feel stupid
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#97 [02:58] <olip1234> Hello i back
#98 [02:58] <olip1234> are you remember me?
#99 [02:58] <Elystus> olip1234: sounds like a familiar name. Can you refresh my memory?
#100 [02:59] <olip1234> I buy minecraft for my son and i stil havent it.You tell me i must wait but i stil havent it and my money is lost
#101 [03:01] <olip1234> And?
#102 [03:01] <Elystus> Oh! I remember!
#103 [03:01] <olip1234> victory !
#104 [03:01] <Elystus> Sorry, was in another channel.
#105 [03:01] <olip1234> :D
#106 [03:01] <Elystus> Okay, check your bank account. Is money taken out?
#107 [03:02] <olip1234> yes i havent 20 euro
#108 [03:02] <Elystus> So money was taken out?
#109 [03:02] <olip1234> yes
#110 [03:02] <Elystus> Did you recieve any purchase confirmation email?
#111 [03:02] <olip1234> wait i check
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#113 [03:04] <olip1234> Nothing in email
#114 [03:04] <Elystus> You said you used paypal correct?
#115 [03:04] <olip1234> Yes
#116 [03:05] <Elystus> Okay, so that can take up to 5 days to go through, though this is very rare.
#117 [03:05] <Elystus> But, I can tell you what to do if you never recieve the email.
#118 [03:05] <olip1234> ok tell me
#119 [03:05] <Elystus> You will need to read this article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#120 [03:06] <Elystus> Also, this article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#121 [03:06] <Elystus> The first one will tell you how to get the transaction id if you do not recieve the email. The second one tells you how to go about contacting Mojang.
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#136 [04:13] <Bas> Whenever I try to log into minecraft it says 'can't connect to minecraft.net' and I've been having this problem for a couple of weeks now.
#137 [04:14] <Elystus> Is it just when using the launcher?
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#139 [04:14] <Elystus> Is it just when using the launcher?
#140 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> we can help you with that :)
#141 [04:14] <Elystus> >_> I think he is having internet problems...
#142 [04:15] <Bas> No its not internet problem
#143 [04:15] <Bas> s
#144 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> unrelated to his launcher problems, perhaps?
#145 [04:15] <Bas> its with the browser and launcher
#146 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> Bas: The launcher, does it have a dirt background, or a black backhroudn on the lower part of it?
#147 [04:15] <Elystus> Disk: that wouldn't cause browser issues.
#148 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> And in the upper part, is there any strange text there?
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#150 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> That one might.
#151 [04:16] <Bas> well instead of news or anything it says this <html><body> <center>Failed to update news java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument: connect</center></body></html>
#152 [04:16] <Elystus> And the internet problems I was talking about was the lack of a response, and the fact he came and left under the name Bas_
#153 [04:16] <Elystus> Java! :D
#154 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Thanks. You can fix that by following the information at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#155 [04:16] <Bas> Thank you!
#156 [04:16] <Elystus> If it doesn't work, let us know. ;)
#157 [04:17] <Bas> ok
#158 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> I'm hoping to help people to more effectively help themselves, with such resources.
#159 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> It also means that we can help more people more effectively :)
#160 [04:18] <Elystus> Disk: I am working on a thread to do just that. Also, If the thread were to be well developed and clear. I culd talk to marc about adding technical support information to the help site.
#161 [04:18] <Elystus> could*
#162 [04:18] <Elystus> I would basically break the thread into articles, and as you can guess the thread will be very long.
#163 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> That sounds great.
#164 [04:18] <Elystus> You can help if you would like :)
#165 [04:19] <Elystus> Do you know Linux fixes?
#166 [04:19] <Elystus> or mac fixes?
#167 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> There's already help with installing at the wiki at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Minecraft_Help_FAQ
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#169 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> What I'm hoping to do is to expand, or create enough sueful content for a dedicated tutorial section on such issues
#170 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> I know very little on mac or linux fixes, sorry
#171 [04:20] <Elystus> Most people don't think to go to the wiki.
#172 [04:20] <Elystus> Well doesn't matter. What I need to do is start gathering error reports and pairing them with a fix.
#173 [04:21] <Elystus> I can probably get Scot to help with the mac fixes. I purposely left off the t to keep from pinging him.
#174 [04:21] <Bas> I'm having problems completing the steps
#175 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> Have a look at this page, where I started to put together help logs (edited by removing irrelevant lines) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/HelpLogs/2012-03
#176 [04:21] <Elystus> Bas: What do you need clarified?
#177 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> That's what helped me to put together this troubleshoting categories page too http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Categories
#178 [04:21] <Elystus> Disk: That looks nice.
#179 [04:22] <Elystus> I obviously would not include account problems however.
#180 [04:22] <DiskDaemon> Then I let those go, and just went straight in to a cause/problem/solution set of things
#181 [04:22] <Elystus> Also, it will probably take a while to do the thread. I want it to be as clear as possible.
#182 [04:23] <Elystus> Took forever to write the error reporting part of it.
#183 [04:23] <Elystus> Had to keep changing things to make it clear.
#184 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> The trouble with doing things that first way with logs, is that it takes just such a lot of time to scrape through, edit, put the content up, and categorize them
#185 [04:24] <Elystus> I have time lol, I am recovering from my surgery still.
#186 [04:24] <Elystus> What I was hoping was to have an error report section and a non error report section
#187 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> So, instead of scraping through old logs, I've found it to be more effective to do things as they occur on here, and scrape through for additional content should it be needed on a case by case basis
#188 [04:24] <Bas> when it asks to replace text with java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe I try that and it says 'The name 'java' in the Target box is not valid. Make sure the path and file name are correct.
#189 [04:24] <Elystus> we have to specify the path ;-;
#190 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> Bas: It says that because I think that there's trouble with the java installed on your computer
#191 [04:25] <Elystus> Okay I am guessing you have a 64 bit os with 32 bit java?
#192 [04:25] <Bas> oh
#193 [04:25] <Elystus> Is that true?
#194 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> It's common for people to wrongly have 32-bit java installed if they use a non-Internet Explorer web browser to autodetect java
#195 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> java detects as 64-bit only if you're using Internet Explorer, which is a bummer
#196 [04:26] <Bas> oh ok
#197 [04:26] <Elystus> Let me get a download
#198 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> uninstall java first
#199 [04:26] <Bas> ok
#200 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> Look in your control panel for any java installs that you have, and remove them.
#201 [04:27] <Bas> I'm doing that right now
#202 [04:27] <Elystus> Let me know when you are done uninstalling.
#203 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: And now, I go back to that page and update it with some relevant information from what we're doing now
#204 [04:28] <Elystus> Sounds good :)
#205 [04:28] <Elystus> Disk: If you could at least make a rough draft during the fix, I can clean it up and make it clear.
#206 [04:28] <Bas> There done uninstalling
#207 [04:28] <Elystus> Install this: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=64153
#208 [04:28] <Bas> thank you
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#210 [04:30] <Elystus> If minecraft does not work after the reinstall, then we will do the same thing if earlier. If that still does not work, we will specify Java's path.
#211 [04:31] <Bas> After installing Java it is still not working
#212 [04:31] <Elystus> Okay, do the same thing from earlier.
#213 [04:31] <Bas> ok
#214 [04:32] <Elystus> In case you need the link to the fix page: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#215 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> Was that install done with administrator permissions?
#216 [04:32] <Bas> no
#217 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> Is it worth downloading 64-bit java, and installing that instead with admin permissions?
#218 [04:32] <Elystus> Disk: from what I have seen, installing as admin does not seem to help.
#219 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> Or is that something... yeah, that doesn't help
#220 [04:33] <Elystus> I mean we could try for a difinative answer.
#221 [04:33] <Elystus> definitive*
#222 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> I'm going to create a clean virtual machine install, and try some things out
#223 [04:34] <Elystus> On your computer?
#224 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> yep
#225 [04:34] <Elystus> That may not work. The paths for java may be left alone during the uninstall.
#226 [04:34] <Bas> I've tried the thing from earlier and when I open it nothing is happening when I open it except for a small black window appears for a few seconds
#227 [04:34] <Elystus> Okay give me a moment.
#228 [04:35] <Elystus> replace java with "C:\program files\java\jre7\bin\java.exe"
#229 [04:35] <Elystus> keep the quotation marks.
#230 [04:35] <Bas> ok
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#234 [04:37] <Bas> I believe I did that right but the same thing is happening
#235 [04:37] <Elystus> can you paste what you are putting in?
#236 [04:38] <Bas> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#237 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Want to try to get him to do java -version or variations of the java command, to check what works?
#238 [04:38] <Elystus> We could..
#239 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> Or do you want to have him just navigate directly?
#240 [04:39] <Elystus> Could you instruct him... got some spam bots to take care of.
#241 [04:39] <Elystus> Directly is probably the best shot.
#242 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Okay, open up a windows folder
#243 [04:39] <Bas> any folder?
#244 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Yep. In the left panel go to Computer and to C:
#245 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Then open up Program Files. Do you see a Java folder in there?
#246 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> Bas: How ae you doing there?
#247 [04:41] <Bas> im looking for a folder
#248 [04:41] <Bas> i mean the java folder
#249 [04:41] <Elystus> is it not there?
#250 [04:41] <Bas> It is
#251 [04:41] <Elystus> look in program files (x86)
#252 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> Go in to that Java folder. What folders do you see in there?
#253 [04:41] <Elystus> Oh
#254 [04:41] * Elystus overreacted
#254 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> patience ;)
#255 [04:42] <Bas> jre7
#256 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> Good one. Now let's open a command prompt and try something out
#257 [04:42] <Bas> ok
#258 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> Do you know how to open a command prompt?
#259 [04:43] <Bas> no
#260 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> Press the windows key and type: cmd
#261 [04:43] <Bas> ok
#262 [04:43] <Bas> its open
#263 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> Good, now type: "c:\program files\java\jre7\bin\java" -version
#264 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> you can copy from here, and paste in there
#265 [04:44] <Bas> I cant copy and paste it...
#266 [04:44] <Elystus> you have to right click and select paste to paste in command prompt.
#267 [04:44] <Bas> ok
#268 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> You can type it out too. Just include the quotes, which are needed because of the space in the folder name
#269 [04:45] <Bas> Ok i copied and pasted it
#270 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> And what happens when you run it?
#271 [04:46] <Bas> It says some things
#272 [04:46] <Elystus> pastebin.com
#273 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> bad command or file name?
#274 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> Or does it show version info
#275 [04:46] <Bas> I think version info
#276 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> good one.
#277 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> Because of some other issue with your computer, that value in double quotes, including the quotes, is what you need to use in the shortcut in place of that first word java.
#278 [04:47] <Elystus> Disk: We tried taht
#279 [04:47] <Elystus> that*
#280 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: We have confirmed now that it is correct.
#281 [04:47] <Elystus> might as well retry.
#282 [04:48] <Bas> So do what I did earlier
#283 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> yes indeed, with java replaced with the doublequotes and its contents
#284 [04:49] <Bas> I dont really understand
#285 [04:49] <Bas> "C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe Here is what it says right now
#286 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> good
#287 [04:50] <Bas> So what else do I need to do
#288 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> That should be it
#289 [04:51] <Bas> Ok, but thats what is said when I opened it without me editing it
#290 [04:51] <Elystus> try it anyway.
#291 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> It seems that the shortcut found java for you, which is what I initially expected the shortcut to do.
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#293 [04:52] <Bas> I just did and the same thing with the black window is happening
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#295 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> can you copy the contents of the black window to pastebin?
#296 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> right-click on it, select all, Enter to copy
#297 [04:52] <Bas> It opens for a second and then closes
#298 [04:53] <Elystus> Disk: It seems to be ending the process itself. Most likely because it is unable to find something.
#299 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> Okay. Let's open a command prompt in the same location that the minecraft.exe file is, and run that same command on it
#300 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> From the command prompt we'll be able to see what it has to say
#301 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Where is your minecraft.exe file currently located?
#302 [04:54] <Bas> Desktop
#303 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> How about putting "pause" in for the second line?
#304 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> Okay. left click on the background of your desktop to ensure that no files are selected, then shift-right-click on the background and you will see an option to open a command window there
#305 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> I assume you're putting this in a batch file?
#306 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> no batch file, shortcut
#307 [04:54] <GreyVulpine> Ah
#308 [04:54] <Elystus> No, but I was going to try that if this did not work.
#309 [04:55] <Elystus> But the pause might work.
#310 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> Bas: When the command prompt is open at the desktop, copy that target from your shortcut, and paste it to the command prompt
#311 [04:56] <Bas> ok I did that
#312 [04:57] <DiskDaemon> And? What occurs
#313 [04:57] <Bas> and it says Error: Unable to access jarfile minecraft.exe
#314 [04:58] <DiskDaemon> okay, so now we need to ensure that we are using the same name that you have there for your launcher
#315 [04:58] <Elystus> wait..
#316 [04:58] <Elystus> it says jar file
#317 [04:58] <Bas> yeah
#318 [04:58] <Elystus> Download the jar from the website
#319 [04:58] <Elystus> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#320 [04:58] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: why not use the .exe if it's there?
#321 [04:58] <Elystus> Unable to access jarfile minecraft.exe
#322 [04:58] <Elystus> It is trying to access a jarfile
#323 [04:59] <Elystus> .exe is not a jar file
#324 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> He might be in the wrong directory, or he may have a differnt file. Let's fix this before adding more crap on to his machine
#325 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> Bas: What is the directory that your command prompt is currently in?
#326 [04:59] <Elystus> Disk: I am 95% sure.
#327 [05:00] <Bas> What is that supposed to mean?
#328 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The .exe works perfectly fine with the command prompt java
#329 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Where it says: C:\Users\...\...>
#330 [05:00] <Elystus> oh.. okay. The quick way to do what disk is getting at.
#331 [05:01] <Elystus> Shift right click any where on the desktop
#332 [05:01] <Elystus> then select open command prompt here
#333 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: We've done that
#334 [05:01] <Elystus> you just opened a command prompt.
#335 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> We need to know what his current situation is, before guiding him towards a solution
#336 [05:01] <Bas> If it helps, I currently do not have a .minecraft/minecraft.jar
#337 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> you don't need one
#338 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> not yet
#339 [05:02] <Bas> ok
#340 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> Bas: What is the directory that your command prompt is currently in?
#341 [05:03] <Bas> How do I find that
#342 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Where it says: C:\Users\...\...>
#343 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> deja vu
#344 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Do you see the black command window that you opened on your screen?
#345 [05:04] <Bas> C:\Users\Basil\Desktop>
#346 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> Okay, type this: dir minecraft.*
#347 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> What does it show there?
#348 [05:05] <Bas> File not found
#349 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> So your minecraft.exe file is not on your desktop. Let's find out where it really is.
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#351 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> Right-click on the minecraft.exe launcher file (not the shortcut), and choose properties
#352 [05:06] <Bas> ok
#353 [05:06] <DiskDaemon> What is the location that it says for that file?
#354 [05:06] <Bas> C:\Users\Basil\Desktop
#355 [05:06] <DiskDaemon> And the type of file?
#356 [05:07] <Bas> Application (.exe)
#357 [05:07] <DiskDaemon> Does it say minecraft.exe right at the top?
#358 [05:07] <Bas> It says Minecraft (1)
#359 [05:07] <DiskDaemon> Aha!
#360 [05:08] <Elystus> >_>
#361 [05:08] <DiskDaemon> Go back to the command prompt, where it is on the desktop, and type just this: dir
#362 [05:08] <DiskDaemon> Then copy that and pastebin it for us to look at.
#363 [05:09] <Bas> How can I copy it
#364 [05:09] <Elystus> right click
#365 [05:09] <Elystus> select all
#366 [05:09] <DiskDaemon> right-click, select all, press Enter
#367 [05:09] <Bas> C:\Users\Basil\Desktop>"C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Djava.net.pref erIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe Error: Unable to access jarfile minecraft.exe C:\Users\Basil\Desktop>dir minecraft.* Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is A4A2-2459 Directory of C:\Users\Basil\Desktop File Not Found C:\Users\Basil\Desktop> dir minecraft.* Volume in drive C has no label.
#368 [05:10] * DiskDaemon kicks bas
#368 [05:10] <DiskDaemon> ??> bas pastebin
#369 [05:10] <VoxelHead> bas: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#370 [05:10] <Bas> oh
#371 [05:10] <Bas> http://pastebin.com/RnhmeNYa
#372 [05:11] <Elystus> yep you are correct disk
#373 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft (1).exe
#374 [05:11] <GreyVulpine> Well, there's your problem
#375 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Please rename Minecraft (1) to just Minecraft
#376 [05:11] <Elystus> C:\Users\Basil\Desktop>"C:\Program Files\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft (1).exe
#377 [05:11] <Elystus> put that in.
#378 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Let's fix the problem. We don't want the rot to remain
#379 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> Bas: Please rename "Minecraft (1)" so that it's just "Minecraft"
#380 [05:12] <Bas> ok I renamed it
#381 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> Thanks. Now that shortcut of yours should work.
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#383 [05:13] <Bas> Yep it worked :D
#384 [05:14] <Bas> But will installing mods, texture packs, and updating work differently or the same?
#385 [05:14] <DiskDaemon> Yes they will.
#386 [05:14] <Bas> Ok thank you guys soo much!
#387 [05:14] * DiskDaemon realises that answer didn't answer anything
#387 [05:14] <DiskDaemon> It'll mean no change to the way things normally work
#388 [05:15] <Bas> ok so the same
#389 [05:15] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#390 [05:15] <Bas> Ok thanks and Bye
#391 [05:15] <DiskDaemon> no change = the same
#392 [05:15] <Elystus> cya
#393 [05:16] <Elystus> Disk: sorry to have been a hassle towards the end. I am getting tired and for some reason that means I want to rush stuff.
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#395 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> It's okay. I know how tempting it is to try and just "make it work"
#396 [05:17] <Elystus> Doesn't help when you are kind of sleep deprived <_<
#397 [05:17] <DiskDaemon> aye
#398 [05:17] <Elystus> Oh well, I will try to get some sleep tonight so I can get back to work on that thread.
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#403 [05:35] <max65784> hey i just got a new pc and i cant log in to my own server its saying out of memory and i cant fix
#404 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> What details can you give us on that?
#405 [05:36] <max65784> im letting it use 1g of ram its a dell 2g of ram all up and mem idk yet
#406 [05:37] <DiskDaemon> What mod/modpacks/texturepacks are being used?
#407 [05:37] <max65784> none brand new pc just installed mc and try to log into my server
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#409 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> How are you giving it 1G of ram?
#410 [05:38] <max65784> .bat
#411 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> Can you pastebin the contents for us?
#412 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> ??> max65784 pastebin
#413 [05:38] <VoxelHead> max65784: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#414 [05:38] <max65784> ok
#415 [05:39] <DiskDaemon> Can you also tell us exactly what error message is given?
#416 [05:39] <max65784> http://pastebin.com/zua3xbjD
#417 [05:39] <max65784> Minecraft out of memory then please restart the game....
#418 [05:40] <DiskDaemon> What happens when you play single player?
#419 [05:40] <max65784> ill load it now
#420 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> max65784: I see in that match file that you've specified -Xms twice
#421 [05:41] <DiskDaemon> *batch
#422 [05:41] <max65784> lol
#423 [05:41] <max65784> so try it once?
#424 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> Try resolving that, and give things another go
#425 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> It's -Xms for smallest, and -Xmx for largest
#426 [05:42] <max65784> so i got to edit it to the xms?
#427 [05:42] <max65784> -xms
#428 [05:43] <DiskDaemon> I would like to see what happens when you connect without those memory parameters
#429 [05:43] <max65784> so with out the .bat it just happens the same
#430 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> What is the server running?
#431 [05:44] <max65784> i buy a host
#432 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> Is the server running bukkit, or does it have some other mods on it?
#433 [05:46] <max65784> bukkit no mods and i can normaly connect on any other pc its just this 1 has a out of memory error for mc
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#435 [05:46] <DiskDaemon> We don't support bukkit here, but I'll see if I can find any recommended memory settings for it
#436 [05:46] <max65784> its not that its the mc
#437 [05:47] <DiskDaemon> Connect to a vanilla server - what issues does your PC have?
#438 [05:47] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, the recommended RAM settings are pretty much the same as the vanilla server
#439 [05:47] <Calinou> maybe a bit more
#440 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> New PC you said? And it only has 2 gigs of RAM?
#441 [05:47] <max65784> on single as wel as multiplayer
#442 [05:47] <max65784> yea
#443 [05:47] <max65784> :(
#444 [05:47] <Calinou> the RAM bottleneck being chunk loading & saving, which is quite similar in bukkit compared in vanilla
#445 [05:47] <DiskDaemon> SO as I said, I'll see if I can find any recommended memory settings for it
#446 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> What sort of graphics card or chipset does it have?
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#448 [05:47] <GreyVulpine> If you have 2 gigs of RAM, on a new PC, you do not have 2 gigs free. How much is actually available?
#449 [05:48] <max65784> intel core 2 duo its a 2nd hand but better than my last
#450 [05:48] <Calinou> "intel core 2 duo" < these are not in new computers, I'm sorry
#451 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> That's at least 3-4 years out of date
#452 [05:48] <Calinou> you bought an used computer then, probably. NOT a new one
#453 [05:48] <max65784> yea i no
#454 [05:48] <Calinou> today's computers have i3-i5-i7 usually
#455 [05:48] <max65784> but my last sucked
#456 [05:48] <GreyVulpine> So, back to my questions.
#457 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> What sort of graphics card or chipset does it have?
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#459 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> If you have 2 gigs of RAM, on a new PC, you do not have 2 gigs free. How much is actually available?
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#461 [05:49] <max65784> how i check?
#462 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Operating system?
#463 [05:49] <max65784> xp
#464 [05:49] <max65784> like i said better than my last
#465 [05:49] <GreyVulpine> Definitely not a new PC then
#466 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> Press ctrl+shift+esc to bring up the task manager
#467 [05:50] <max65784> i no
#468 [05:50] <GreyVulpine> Go to performance, then look at Physical Memory.
#469 [05:50] <max65784> am
#470 [05:51] <max65784> heaps free
#471 [05:52] <GreyVulpine> Can you give me the number?
#472 [05:52] <max65784> 1378404k
#473 [05:52] <max65784> and its changing
#474 [05:53] <GreyVulpine> Do you know what kind of graphics chipset you're running?
#475 [05:53] <max65784> no
#476 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> ??> max65784 win/dxdiag
#477 [05:54] <VoxelHead> max65784: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#478 [05:54] <VoxelHead> max65784: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#479 [05:54] <GreyVulpine> Go to your start menu, hit "Run", then put in dxdiag and pres- bah
#480 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> pardon :)
#481 [05:54] * GreyVulpine snrks
#481 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Betting the message is just that, you're running 32 bit windows XP, and it's getting starved for memory. If you're running an integrated graphics chipset, that'll drain even more available RAM
#482 [05:55] <max65784> pastebin?
#483 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Yes, www.pastebin.com
#484 [05:55] <GreyVulpine> Best bet is to probably turn down the graphics settings in minecraft's options
#485 [05:56] <DiskDaemon> A screenshot of that performance page would help to reveal a lot of useful info too
#486 [05:56] <max65784> its prob not upto date but it works :D
#487 [05:56] <max65784> http://pastebin.com/MbvgjAvQ
#488 [05:57] <DiskDaemon> Wow, version 6.14 drivers. Those could stand to be updated too to something that's less than 6 years old
#489 [05:58] <max65784> :D
#490 [05:58] <max65784> its bits and bobs maybe
#491 [05:59] <DiskDaemon> A Dell desktop. Optiplex 745. These version 10.2 graphics drivers should work for it.
#492 [06:00] <DiskDaemon> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13;2.4.1.3.12;2.4.1.3.12.3.2;2.4.1.3.11;2.4.1.3.10;2.4.1.3.9;2.4.1.3.8;2.4.1.3.7;2.4.1.3.6&lang=us&rev=10.2&ostype=Windows%20XP%20-%20Professional/Home
#493 [06:00] <max65784> now wat?
#494 [06:00] <DiskDaemon> Go there, and download the suite.
#495 [06:00] <max65784> download wat?
#496 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> The only suite that you can see there is the Catalyst Software Suite
#497 [06:01] <max65784> ok
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#500 [06:12] <max65784_> ok so once it done?
#501 [06:13] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft should perform better with those updated graphics drivers for your computer
#502 [06:14] <max65784_> ok but its a out of memory error wats the drives got to do with it?
#503 [06:14] <DiskDaemon> Oh I don't know how to deal with your problem of connecting to a bukkit server (we don't support modded servers here) but we can certainly help you to improve how things work on your machine for Minecraft.
#504 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> I'm not sure if others here would like to help though
#505 [06:15] <max65784_> ok thanx i o u 1 it works :D
#506 [06:15] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#507 [06:15] <max65784_> the drives work
#508 [06:15] <max65784_> bye
#509 [06:15] * DiskDaemon sures "out of memory" issue, accidentally, by updating graphics card.
#509 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Dammit - I was trying to be annoyingly helpful by not solving his problem and instead solving something else, but I ended up solving his problem in the end anyway.
#510 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Still, it's good to know now that out of memory issues can be tied directly to the graphic drivers
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#513 [06:32] <pandapipino> has anyone experiencing internal client error while joining multiplayer servers?
#514 [06:32] <DiskDaemon> Sure, we can help with that
#515 [06:32] <pandapipino> tnx
#516 [06:32] <DiskDaemon> Does it involve an inability to connect with session.minecraft.net ?
#517 [06:32] <pandapipino> let me check the exact error
#518 [06:32] <DiskDaemon> that would be helpful
#519 [06:33] <pandapipino> Internal client error: java.net.UnknownHostException: session.minecraft.net
#520 [06:33] <pandapipino> yeah
#521 [06:33] <DiskDaemon> Yep, the info at this page will help you http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#UnknownHostException:_session.minecraft.net
#522 [06:34] <pandapipino> ok let me check tnx
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#524 [06:34] <akindra> hello when ever i download minecraft and click log in it just goes away
#525 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> pandapipino: Since the minecraft server issues a few days ago, it can take up to 72 hours for other dns servers such as the one at your own ISP to update themself with the new info
#526 [06:35] <akindra> and when ever i try to play on the browser it loads a bit then the box is just a complete white sqaure
#527 [06:35] <pandapipino> alrigh tnx a bunch
#528 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> akindra: Okay, let's run minecraft.exe from the command prompt, so that we can get some info about what is going wrong
#529 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> akindra: Where is your minecraft.exe file located?
#530 [06:36] <akindra> my friend said delete it and try again but i havnt re-installed it yet
#531 [06:36] <akindra> but it was on the desktop
#532 [06:36] <DiskDaemon> akindra: Okay, download it to your desktop again
#533 [06:37] <akindra> ok done
#534 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> Press Win+r and then type: cmd /k "cd desktop"
#535 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> That will open a command prompt, and change directory to your desktop
#536 [06:38] <akindra> <---noob with computers whats win+_r o.0 etc
#537 [06:38] <DiskDaemon> Win is for the Windows key
#538 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> It looks like this http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#539 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> Win+r means to hold down the Windows key, and press the R key.
#540 [06:39] <akindra> ok got the command prompt
#541 [06:39] <DiskDaemon> Okay, now type at the command prompt: minecraft
#542 [06:40] <DiskDaemon> When it starts, we want the problem to occur, and then to close minecraft and leave the command prompt open
#543 [06:40] <akindra> its just a little black box that says c:/users/name/desktop>
#544 [06:41] <DiskDaemon> Right - type there: minecraft
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#547 [06:42] <akindra> ok it opened up minecraft launcher?
#548 [06:42] <DiskDaemon> When it starts, we want the problem to occur, and then to close minecraft and leave the command prompt open
#549 [06:42] <akindra> when i click login though it just vanishes
#550 [06:42] <akindra> nothing comes up on the prompt
#551 [06:43] <pandapipino> Diskdeamon it works
#552 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, how intriguing. Normally diagnosis info turns up there.
#553 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> pandapipino: you're welcome
#554 [06:43] <pandapipino> i can now connect to multiplayer server's thanks
#555 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> Your normal DNS server should update in a few days, but you should find no trouble with that alternate one
#556 [06:44] <DiskDaemon> akindra: Can you tell me where you got that minecraft file from? It's behaving differently from the normal one that we get from minecraft.net
#557 [06:44] <akindra> where i bought it from?
#558 [06:45] <DiskDaemon> that might help to know, yes.
#559 [06:45] <akindra> www.minecraft.net and there was a pic of a pig a guy and a sheep and below them a orange button saying buy now
#560 [06:46] <DiskDaemon> that's good - it's best to be sure :)
#561 [06:46] <akindra> play minecraft in browser/ download was under the buy now button =/
#562 [06:46] <DiskDaemon> back in the command prompt window, what do you get when you type: java -version
#563 [06:47] <akindra> " java version "1,7.0_05"
#564 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> akindra: Can I get some more info about things on your computer.
#565 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> ??> akindra win/dxdiag
#566 [06:47] <VoxelHead> akindra: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#567 [06:47] <VoxelHead> akindra: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#568 [06:48] <akindra> what does it mean digitally signed?
#569 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> It would help if you could tell me what it says first
#570 [06:49] <akindra> just saving the info now
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#572 [06:50] <akindra> thats a lot of info is it safe to put it all out ?
#573 [06:50] <DiskDaemon> Yes, there's no danger there
#574 [06:51] <akindra> http://pastebin.com/5vH2mB0E
#575 [06:52] <DiskDaemon> Thanks for that. I think I see why it's not going.
#576 [06:52] <akindra> howcome?
#577 [06:52] <DiskDaemon> Your graphics card seems to have less than 1 gig of graphics memory
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#580 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> "Display Memory: 891 MB"
#581 [06:53] <akindra> i am on the back up computer atm my computer wont connect to a screen so its getting fixed =/
#582 [06:53] <akindra> so itsj ust the graphics card then?
#583 [06:53] <akindra> its just*
#584 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> You can try to update the graphics drivers for your computer, but that's no guarantee that it will work
#585 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> akindra gpu/intel
#586 [06:54] <VoxelHead> akindra: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#587 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> sorry, wrong one
#588 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> ??> akindra gpu/amd
#589 [06:54] <VoxelHead> akindra: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#590 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> That one there ^
#591 [06:55] <akindra> from what my uncle says on my other computer i have a shader 7 gfx card? if thats it im not sure but would that handle it on my other computer?
#592 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> It would have a better chance to
#593 [06:56] <akindra> ah ok tysm for help :) ill see if i can get your download link thing to work :)
#594 [06:56] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#596 [07:21] <Pablo> anyone else experiencing troubles logging in?
#597 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> What sort of trouble?
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#599 [07:22] <DiskDaemon> Pablo: Can you please give us the full error message that you're getting?
#600 [07:24] <Pablo> connection closed end of stream
#601 [07:25] <Pablo> its on multiplayer server btw
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#603 [07:27] <DiskDaemon> I don't know if I can help with that
#604 [07:28] <Pablo> it is weird, after trying over 20 times i can get on, but most of the times i get the message as mentioned above
#605 [07:28] <Pablo> i am in now for example. it's scandicraft btw
#606 [07:29] <DiskDaemon> That implies that it's something that's outside of your machine that's causing the issue
#607 [07:30] <Pablo> there have been issues with the minecraft server , the owner of the scandicraft server said so, but it has been for a couple of days now
#608 [07:31] <DiskDaemon> Those issues aren't affecting you. If they were, you wouldn't be able to connect at all, and would get a very different error message that can be fixed.
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#610 [07:32] <Pablo> you think it has to do with the scandicraft server itself? cause i see others logging out and in without problems
#611 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> potentially that, or your connection to them
#612 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> It's nearly midnight for me, I don't know how to fix the problem that you have, and nobody else seems to be speaking up about it either.
#613 [07:34] <Pablo> weird thing is that , kiddo on another laptop doesnt seem to have an issue
#614 [07:34] <Pablo> near midnite, youre in oz?
#615 [07:35] <DiskDaemon> nope, further than that ;)
#616 [07:35] <Pablo> antartica?
#617 [07:35] <DiskDaemon> not quite, though it feels it at times
#618 [07:35] <Pablo> i'm from europe , is there anything further than oz, from here?
#619 [07:36] <DiskDaemon> There is indeed - it's where Lord of the Rings was made
#620 [07:37] <Pablo> aha, nz
#621 [07:37] <DiskDaemon> indeed :)
#622 [07:37] <Pablo> youre a kiwi :D
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#624 [07:47] <yeewei12> hey anyone knows how to fix a crash rpoblem?
#625 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> what details can you give us on it?
#626 [07:49] <yeewei12> when im playing on a server it runs properly then it crash like the game stops run stops run
#627 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> Does it give an error message?
#628 [07:49] <yeewei12> no
#629 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> So it goes slow, then improves, then goes slow again?
#630 [07:50] <yeewei12> yes
#631 [07:50] <yeewei12> in a server
#632 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> What is the crash you mentioned?
#633 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> What is the stop run stop run thing?
#634 [07:50] <yeewei12> well when i go to a server
#635 [07:50] <yeewei12> it runs normally for a few min
#636 [07:51] <yeewei12> then suddenly i get lag like 3fps
#637 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's take a look at some basic settings.
#638 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> ??> yeewei12 win/dxdiag
#639 [07:51] <VoxelHead> yeewei12: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#640 [07:51] <VoxelHead> yeewei12: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#641 [07:51] <yeewei12> ?
#642 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> Are you puzzle about how to follow those instructions?
#643 [07:52] <yeewei12> no
#644 [07:52] <yeewei12> i'll try to follow them
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#646 [07:53] <DiskDaemon> Hah, the Rize of the Fenix album just came up on the playlist again :)
#647 [07:55] <yeewei12> rhttp://pastebin.com/urbgJuWd
#648 [07:55] <yeewei12> rhere
#649 [07:55] <yeewei12> http://pastebin.com/urbgJuWd
#650 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> Thanks. I see that your graphics drivers are pretty old, from 2008. Updating your graphics drivers may help your machine to improve how it handles the framerate for the game
#651 [07:56] <yeewei12> so how
#652 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> ??> yeewei12 gpu/intel
#653 [07:56] <VoxelHead> yeewei12: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#654 [07:58] <yeewei12> what am i suppose to find?
#655 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> Do you see the automatic update utility?
#656 [07:58] <yeewei12> i dun use the intel graphic card
#657 [07:58] <yeewei12> i use the nvidia geforce GT630M
#658 [07:59] <DiskDaemon> That's odd, dxdiag only sees the intel one as a display device.
#659 [07:59] <DiskDaemon> You can update the nvidia ones though from:
#660 [07:59] <DiskDaemon> ??> yeewei12 gpu/nvidia
#661 [08:00] <VoxelHead> yeewei12: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#662 [08:00] <yeewei12> ok
#663 [08:00] <DiskDaemon> I'm surprised you were able to get a separate graphics card in to the laptop too
#664 [08:01] <yeewei12> aspire v3-471g look it up
#665 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> http://thelaptop-reviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Acer_Aspire_V3-471G_2.jpg
#666 [08:02] <yeewei12> what i am suprised is im able to run battlefield 3 without a update i dun think its a fps problem
#667 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> Most games use directx, while Minecraft is one of the few that uses OpenGL isntead
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#669 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> Weren't you saying that the fps goes down to 3fps before?
#670 [08:03] <yeewei12> i say it lags like its 3 fps
#671 [08:04] <yeewei12> it lags like as if u have a 2001 computer
#672 [08:04] <DiskDaemon> Ahh. If it's a connection issue, I don't think there's much that can be done about that
#673 [08:04] <yeewei12> no
#674 [08:04] <yeewei12> when i use my old laptop it can run properly
#675 [08:05] <yeewei12> but this new laptop is much better
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#677 [08:05] <DiskDaemon> well you have me well puzzled now
#678 [08:05] <yeewei12> same
#679 [08:05] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon - Does he use nvidia's Optimus system?
#680 [08:05] <GreyVulpine> Dual video cards?
#681 [08:05] <DiskDaemon> Let me put it this way. From what you're saying, I have no way to help you.
#682 [08:05] <yeewei12> yep i do
#683 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> That would be why
#684 [08:06] <yeewei12> what would be why?
#685 [08:06] * DiskDaemon sits back to listen, and perhaps learn something
#685 [08:06] <yeewei12> nvidia optimus is liek a great system
#686 [08:06] <GreyVulpine> Why you have crap FPS, your laptop, or more specifically, the Optimus setup does not detect Java as a high-performance application, that needs the dedicated graphics card to fire up
#687 [08:07] <yeewei12> haha ur wrong
#688 [08:07] <GreyVulpine> Really now
#689 [08:07] <yeewei12> when i play singleplayer it does not even lag one bit
#690 [08:07] <yeewei12> but server does
#691 [08:07] <yeewei12> thats why im puzzled
#692 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> And does this happen on all multiplayer servers?
#693 [08:08] <yeewei12> it runs like singleplayer once i start playing on the server and then after a few min it lags
#694 [08:08] <yeewei12> nvr only tried one
#695 [08:08] <GreyVulpine> Try another one.
#696 [08:08] <yeewei12> ok wait
#697 [08:09] <DiskDaemon> Is there a way for him to find out from his computer which graphics card is being used?
#698 [08:10] <Morrolan> A GPU-info tool would show whether the dedicated card is being used currently.
#699 [08:10] <Morrolan> E.g. MSI Afterburner, GPU-Z and whatnot.
#700 [08:10] <yeewei12> im using a geforce 630m like i told all of u
#701 [08:11] <DiskDaemon> Is the intermittant server lag a known server issue?
#702 [08:11] <yeewei12> okay on a new server for 3min now and no signs of lag
#703 [08:11] <yeewei12> nooooo does that mean i have to find a new serer
#704 [08:11] <DiskDaemon> Which means that it's something to do with the server that you were on, or the connection to it.
#705 [08:12] <yeewei12> ya
#706 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> thanks for helping us to come to a useful conclusion on this
#707 [08:12] <yeewei12> ok
#708 [08:12] <yeewei12> thanks for everything you guys did ^.^
#709 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#710 [08:13] * DiskDaemon takes deep breath
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#711 [08:15] <yeewei12> ha lol
#712 [08:15] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: I was looking up that Optimis info earlier too, it's a useful one to keep in mind
#713 [08:16] <yeewei12> the only difference was it lags after a few min more than the other server
#714 [08:16] <yeewei12> so thatwas no help at all
#715 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> Can we get a screenshot of the speedtest results from your computer? www.speedtest.net
#716 [08:18] <yeewei12> sure
#717 [08:18] <yeewei12> so how i post the screenshot?
#718 [08:18] <DiskDaemon> imgur.com or some other image place will do
#719 [08:19] <DiskDaemon> If you want to know how to quickly take a screenshot, see http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#720 [08:19] <yeewei12> u needto download the speedtest?
#721 [08:19] <DiskDaemon> Since you're in singapore, you shouldn't have much speed issues, but it's good to check anyway
#722 [08:19] <DiskDaemon> No need to download speedtest - it's all in-browser
#723 [08:20] <DiskDaemon> I myself connect using a singapore bouncer too
#724 [08:21] <yeewei12> whats a bouncer?
#725 [08:22] <yeewei12> 10ms is it bad or good?
#726 [08:22] <DiskDaemon> It's just something used here on IRC to remain connected when ot connected
#727 [08:22] <yeewei12> 3.42mbps
#728 [08:22] <DiskDaemon> A screenshot is the most efficient way to get all the information across
#729 [08:23] <Morrolan> You don't even need to take a screenshot, it automatically saves the results and gives you an URL which you can use to share.
#730 [08:23] <DiskDaemon> Ooh, a link is even nicer. yes
#731 [08:23] <yeewei12> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2046615975.png
#732 [08:24] <DiskDaemon> Yeah the ping is good, but the upload speed is really slow
#733 [08:24] <yeewei12> so...
#734 [08:24] <DiskDaemon> The "slower than 82% of SG" is an indicator too.
#735 [08:25] <DiskDaemon> Grade: F+
#736 [08:25] <DiskDaemon> So it's your internet connection that's causing the issue, sorry.
#737 [08:25] <Calinou> my connection is slower than 77% of france
#738 [08:25] <Calinou> my connection is WORSE than yours yeewei12
#739 [08:25] <yeewei12> lol
#740 [08:25] <Calinou> (you have 3.42mbps down)
#741 [08:25] <Calinou> I have 2.4mbps down
#742 [08:26] <DiskDaemon> Hmm, I must be lucky then http://www.speedtest.net/result/2046621815.png
#743 [08:29] <Morrolan> Minecraft uses like 120 KB/s per player at most I believe, so your upload might be a bit slow indeed.
#744 [08:29] <Morrolan> Or was it 120 Kb? Then it would be sufficient.
#745 [08:30] <Morrolan> And I just read this thread about this very topic yesterday.
#746 [08:31] <DiskDaemon> From a similar thread - "Over a 100second test window, I recorded a mean of 31,630 bytes/sec and a max of 159,371 bytes/sec."
#747 [08:31] <Morrolan> So, 150 KB/s.
#748 [08:31] <DiskDaemon> around there, yeah
#749 [08:31] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/23108-minecraft-bandwidth-requirements/
#750 [08:32] <Morrolan> Err, we all missed something, guys.
#751 [08:32] <Morrolan> He is not hosting a server, but playing on one.
#752 [08:32] <Morrolan> Now his DOWNLOAD speed is more than enough.
#753 [08:32] <DiskDaemon> He is indeed - but won't his upload speed (or lack of) affect how his info gets to the server?
#754 [08:33] <Morrolan> True, but the information flow server->client is much bigger than client->server, since the server sends the client all the entity movement and chunk data.
#755 [08:33] <Morrolan> Whereas the client just sends position updates and block updates, which really shouldn't take up that much bandwith. :S
#756 [08:33] <DiskDaemon> What other reasons are there for on-again off-again laggy play?
#757 [08:34] <DiskDaemon> From two different servers, that he tried things on
#758 [08:34] <Morrolan> I don't really have an idea either.
#759 [08:35] <Morrolan> Especially that it only starts to happen after a few minutes is strange.
#760 [08:35] <Morrolan> It really sounds as if his connection couldn't keep up, and he would fall behind, but that'd be strange.
#761 [08:35] <DiskDaemon> we don't know what else was happening with his router though. People watching video on demand, etc..
#762 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> Any network monitoring/QoS service? Any security software?
#763 [08:36] <Morrolan> No way to find out anymore, since he left.
#764 [08:36] <Morrolan> But would be somethign to keep in mind if someone has a similar issue.
#765 [08:36] <GreyVulpine> There are some security software that do exhibit this sort of behavior.
#766 [08:36] <Morrolan> something*
#767 [08:36] <Morrolan> Huh, okay.
#768 [08:37] <GreyVulpine> Zonealarm was notorious for giving really wierd network issues
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#777 [09:08] <lostcause> Hi, any idea why my client is saying "can't connect to minecraft.net" when I launch it and try to log in? I've tried two different ISPs and I can reach minecraft.net in a browser.
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#779 [09:10] <\r\n> odd. I'm getting a NoRouteToHostException whenever I try connecting via localhost
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#781 [09:11] <DiskDaemon> What do you get when you ping localhost?
#782 [09:13] <lost__cause> I take it I'm the only one who can't connect to minecraft.net from their minecraft client?
#783 [09:13] <DiskDaemon> currently
#784 [09:14] <\r\n> back
#785 [09:14] <\r\n> DiskDaemon, any clue?
#786 [09:14] <DiskDaemon> Does your launcher show a black background in the lower part, instead of a dirt one, or is there any strange text in the upper part?
#787 [09:15] <lost__cause> nope looks completely normal
#788 [09:15] <DiskDaemon> \r\n: My brain is hurting from your name. Have you tried 127.0.0.1 instead?
#789 [09:15] <\r\n> I said that.
#790 [09:15] <DiskDaemon> lost__cause: What details on the error do you get?
#791 [09:15] <\r\n> No Route to host.
#792 [09:15] <DiskDaemon> localhost can be clobbered, whereas 127.0.0.1 cannot
#793 [09:15] <\r\n> even my external IP
#794 [09:16] <lost__cause> sorry for small paste:-
#795 [09:16] <lost__cause> java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://session.minecraft.net/game/getversion.jsp? at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:1401)
#796 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> lost__cause: Thanks, we can help with that.
#797 [09:16] <DiskDaemon> The servers were changed recently, and it can take several days for your ISP to update their own DNS servers
#798 [09:16] <\r\n> DiskDaemon: same issue.
#799 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> You can change your dns servers to some other one, using the info at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#UnknownHostException:_session.minecraft.net
#800 [09:17] <lost__cause> oh, can I get the IP for my hosts file?
#801 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> \r\n: You have that same session.minecraft.net issue?
#802 [09:17] <\r\n> no.
#803 [09:17] <\r\n> and it shouldn't be a problem
#804 [09:17] <\r\n> because it's localhost
#805 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> What happens when you ping them from the command prompt?
#806 [09:18] <\r\n> ping what?
#807 [09:18] <DiskDaemon> either localhost or 127.0.0.1 - can the route be found then?
#808 [09:18] <\r\n> Pinging jordan [127.0.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:
#809 [09:18] <\r\n> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
#810 [09:18] <\r\n> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
#811 [09:18] <\r\n> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
#812 [09:18] <\r\n> Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
#813 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> What results do you get when you attempt to connect to your local ip instead?
#814 [09:20] <Andrio> I've heard of admin wars... but admin bot wars?
#815 [09:20] <Andrio> I've heard of admin wars... but admin bot wars?
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#817 [09:20] <clarjon1> Andrio: yup
#818 [09:20] <\r\n> DiskDaemon: I have been..
#819 [09:21] <\r\n> internal, external, localhost, anything.
#820 [09:21] <lost__cause> google DNS agrees with my DNS on the IP.
#821 [09:21] <DiskDaemon> lost__cause: What do you get when you ping session.minecraft.net
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#823 [09:22] <lost__cause> It tries to ping 184.73.223.40 but it doesn't respond
#824 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> You shouldn't get a response, but the domain and ip information that is being pinged will prove useful for diagnosis
#825 [09:22] <lost__cause> session-1527528893.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com (184.73.223.40)
#826 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> Use the opendns for your dns server and you will fnd that you then become successful
#827 [09:22] <Boreeas> $ ping session.minecraft.net
#828 [09:22] <Boreeas> PING session-1527528893.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com (184.73.223.40) 56(84) bytes of data.
#829 [09:22] <Boreeas> ^C
#830 [09:22] <Boreeas> --- session-1527528893.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com ping statistics ---
#831 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> Oh hang on, that ip address is the right one
#832 [09:22] <Boreeas> 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4031ms
#833 [09:23] <Boreeas> Yes, yes, VoxelHead
#834 [09:23] <\r\n> DiskDaemon: it's an issue connecting to minecraft.net authentication servers.
#835 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> lost__cause: I should have checked this information before directing you to that page.
#836 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> lost__cause: Do you still have the same connection issue?
#837 [09:23] <lost__cause> hang on
#838 [09:24] <lost__cause> yes
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#840 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> filenotfoundexception with getversion.jsp - that's one I can't recall much about
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#842 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> \r\n: So your localhost connection works when you put the server in to offline mode?
#843 [09:26] <\r\n> mhm
#844 [09:26] <shannoon> hello i cant get the downloadable bame client to work when i run it says could not create java virtual machine any ideas
#845 [09:26] <shannoon> game
#846 [09:27] <lost__cause> I don't think the problem is just me, because I run a server and I've had no logins for about 10 hours
#847 [09:28] <DiskDaemon> lost__cause: It's not just you. DNS servers all around the world were affected a few days ago, and some can take up to 72 hours to update
#848 [09:28] <lost__cause> so it is still a DNS issue, just with the authentication servers?
#849 [09:28] <DiskDaemon> Things seem fine with your own dns server in that regard
#850 [09:29] <DiskDaemon> shannoon: Which antivirus program are you running?
#851 [09:29] <shannoon> avg free
#852 [09:30] <DiskDaemon> shannoon: That antivirus program is known to affect the proper download of all the files that Minecraft needs.
#853 [09:30] <DiskDaemon> Temporarily disable your antivirus program, and reinstall minecraft
#854 [09:30] <DiskDaemon> ??> shannoon win/reinst
#855 [09:30] <VoxelHead> shannoon: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#856 [09:30] <VoxelHead> shannoon: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#857 [09:30] <shannoon> ok
#858 [09:32] * DiskDaemon feels somewhat peaked (pee-kid), at 1:30 in the morning
#858 [09:32] <lost__cause> OK so nothing I can do but wait>
#859 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> lost__cause: What's the IP address of your server?
#860 [09:33] <lost__cause> 80.87.128.124
#861 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> !check 80.87.128.124
#862 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> Things are looking good there, at least.
#863 [09:33] <lost__cause> yep
#864 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> My god, I know I'm using a rare word when I have to look it up for a definition, such as this: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/peaked[2]
#865 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> "being pale and wan or emaciated : sickly"
#866 [09:36] <lost__cause> !check wibble
#867 [09:36] <lost__cause> lol
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#871 [09:48] * warfar waits for people to need help
#871 [09:49] <DiskDaemon> Where did you hear that we're after people to help? (not that it's not appreciated)
#872 [09:53] <Boreeas> I would be more interested in knowing why you think it's needed to announce that you are here to help.
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#874 [09:54] <warfar> I'm bored and felt like helping random strangers
#875 [09:54] <JuNNeZ> Hello, I have for several days now, been unable to enter session.minecraft.net. I've tried to flush my DNS, reinstall Java, restarting minecraft, changing DNS and what not. Do anyone know how to resolve this issue?
#876 [09:55] <DiskDaemon> JuNNeZ: Yes - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#UnknownHostException:_session.minecraft.net
#877 [09:55] <JuNNeZ> Yeah... I already did that.
#878 [09:56] <warfar> Try hooking up your computer directly to your modem and see if that works
#879 [09:56] <DiskDaemon> To which dns server did you change to?
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#881 [09:56] <JuNNeZ> Googles
#882 [09:56] <DiskDaemon> The advice there is to use opendns instead
#883 [09:57] <ed> I have the ios version, when will an update come with tnt?
#884 [09:59] * warfar slaps ed around a bit with a large trout
#884 [09:59] <warfar> oops
#885 [09:59] <JuNNeZ> Didn't work.
#886 [09:59] <Boreeas> Ed: We don't know
#887 [09:59] <warfar> Well to anwser your question, That is probobly unkown
#888 [09:59] <JuNNeZ> Still get a timeout each time I try to ping it.
#889 [10:00] <DiskDaemon> JuNNeZ: May we get the fill details on your error message then?
#890 [10:00] <JuNNeZ> Yeah 2 seconds.
#891 [10:00] <DiskDaemon> JuNNeZ: A timeout is supposed to occur when pinging it normally
#892 [10:00] <DiskDaemon> JuNNeZ: What does the full error message say?
#893 [10:00] <JuNNeZ> 2 seconds :P
#894 [10:01] <DiskDaemon> understanding eludes me
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#896 [10:01] <warfar> are there any other session servers other than us?
#897 [10:01] <DiskDaemon> JuNNeZ: I mean, not the pinging message, but the Minecraft error message when you try to connect
#898 [10:03] <JuNNeZ> Hmm. That seems to work for now.
#899 [10:03] <warfar> heh i got a math problem, how many blocks would a irl meter be?
#900 [10:03] <JuNNeZ> 1 block
#901 [10:03] <warfar> using the land that are not fake chunks
#902 [10:04] <DiskDaemon> warfar: can you give more details on that?
#903 [10:04] <warfar> ?
#904 [10:04] <JuNNeZ> DiskDaemon: The issue seems to have been resolved, but is there a way of resolving it without having to change my DNS settings. A little more permanent fix.
#905 [10:04] <warfar> change your routers dns
#906 [10:05] <warfar> heh
#907 [10:05] <DiskDaemon> JuNNeZ: Yes there is. Wait from 12 to 72 hours for your default DNS servers to automatically update themselves
#908 [10:05] <JuNNeZ> It has been like this Since Friday, but alas, I will wait more :P
#909 [10:06] <DiskDaemon> If your ping to session.minecraft.net resolves to the amazon address, and times out, things three are working properly.
#910 [10:06] <DiskDaemon> *there
#911 [10:08] <JuNNeZ> It only does that when connected to the openDNS, DNS. I however thank you for providing your time and effort into helping me. I hope the issue will not remain and I can play without soon.
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#913 [10:08] <JuNNeZ> without DNS*
#914 [10:08] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#915 [10:09] <JuNNeZ> Have a nice day/evening. I wish you the best of luck in your future.
#916 [10:09] <warfar> Oh hey
#917 [10:09] <warfar> i do have a problem
#918 [10:09] <warfar> Minecraft crashed my aTI GPU but not my intel
#919 [10:10] <warfar> (switchable graphics)
#920 [10:10] <DiskDaemon> intriguing
#921 [10:10] <warfar> Win7/64 Java 32+64
#922 [10:10] <DiskDaemon> What version are the drivers for yout ati gpu
#923 [10:10] <warfar> leme check
#924 [10:11] <warfar> lemme switch -.-
#925 [10:12] <warfar> well then
#926 [10:12] <warfar> um
#927 [10:12] <warfar> Catalyst Control Center Version 2011.0930.2209.37895
#928 [10:12] <warfar> ...
#929 [10:12] <DiskDaemon> those aren't too old, so that's not likely to be the issue
#930 [10:12] <warfar> And there are no updates
#931 [10:13] <warfar> Also it started not too recently
#932 [10:13] <warfar> Worked fine before
#933 [10:13] <DiskDaemon> what crash message does it give?
#934 [10:13] <warfar> It crashes my gpu saying the driver failed and was restored
#935 [10:13] <warfar> lemme check
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#937 [10:13] <DiskDaemon> You can run Minecraft from the command prompt, which is where any error report information is sent.
#938 [10:14] <warfar> no
#939 [10:14] <warfar> it doesnt crash mc
#940 [10:14] <warfar> it crashed the gpu
#941 [10:14] <DiskDaemon> Oh neat - that means some part of the OpenGL 1.2 commands aren't being understood properly by the card.
#942 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> If the card is supposed to notmally support OpenGL, that then points to a hardware fault with the card itself.
#943 [10:15] <warfar> lol
#944 [10:15] <warfar> just fialed
#945 [10:15] <warfar> failed
#946 [10:15] <DiskDaemon> my diagnosis is broken hardware
#947 [10:15] <warfar> Display device ATI Has just failed and recovered
#948 [10:15] <warfar> then mc blackscreens
#949 [10:15] <warfar> and i cant play it
#950 [10:16] <warfar> manually end process
#951 [10:16] <warfar> i did not touch the card or update any drivers
#952 [10:16] <Calinou> ATI/AMD do not like opengl usually
#953 [10:16] <Calinou> as with all other graphic cards, the situation is better today, though.
#954 [10:16] <warfar> Well it worked fine before
#955 [10:17] <DiskDaemon> It worked fine before, no software changes were made, and now it doesn't work?
#956 [10:17] <warfar> Yep
#957 [10:17] <DiskDaemon> That's an even stronger pointer towards hardware failure.
#958 [10:17] <warfar> unless switching switchable graphics to fixed did something
#959 [10:17] <warfar> (dought)
#960 [10:17] <warfar> )doubt)*
#961 [10:18] <warfar> but still it stoped working maybe yesterday/day before
#962 [10:18] <warfar> and i switched it last week
#963 [10:18] <DiskDaemon> my diagnosis is broken hardware
#964 [10:19] <warfar> I have a 6490M
#965 [10:19] <DiskDaemon> Your memory doesn't change when you have broken hardware
#966 [10:20] <warfar> well then
#967 [10:20] * oldtopman [oldtopman@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#968 [10:20] <DiskDaemon> unless it's your memory that's broken too :)
#969 [10:20] <warfar> any other open gl apps i can test?
#970 [10:20] <DiskDaemon> You could always get FurMark
#971 [10:21] <warfar> I'm not into benchmarking right now -.-
#972 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> It's the best way to be sure, to be sure
#973 [10:21] <warfar> well i guess fine
#974 [10:22] <warfar> at least its 3.7 mb
#975 [10:23] <warfar> what if it doesnt crash my gpu?
#976 [10:23] <DiskDaemon> Then something else is crashing your gpu
#977 [10:23] <warfar> Which just happens so to be when i'm playing mc
#978 [10:24] <DiskDaemon> currently minecraft is the only program that you run which uses opengl
#979 [10:25] <warfar> how do you konw that 0_0
#980 [10:25] * DiskDaemon pulls away from the window
#980 [10:25] <zen> barely anything uses openGL
#981 [10:25] <warfar> well i should test my memory too then
#982 [10:26] <warfar> ill just use autocad or something
#983 [10:26] <DiskDaemon> There is a proper memory testing program that Microsoft provides (brought from someone else)
#984 [10:26] <DiskDaemon> http://www.memtest.org/
#985 [10:27] <warfar> @ed you can actually get tnt
#986 [10:27] <warfar> oh he left
#987 [10:28] <warfar> ok so what does burn in mean
#988 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> it means to stress test, usually when buildign a computer, to help ensure that it can handle stressful situations
#989 [10:29] <warfar> ok then hell no
#990 [10:29] <warfar> this laptop is not meant for that
#991 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> Normally they're done for 24 hours, but you don't have to do that. Just a few seconds will be enough of a test
#992 [10:30] <warfar> so what do i do for the safest test
#993 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> Benchmark (user's settings)
#994 [10:30] <warfar> im guessing 640x480
#995 [10:30] <warfar> all off
#996 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> There will be a progress bar along the top
#997 [10:31] <warfar> if it doesnt crash my gpu
#998 [10:31] <DiskDaemon> Use the same resolution that you play miencraft in, or the test wull result in useless information for you
#999 [10:31] <warfar> ok
#1000 [10:31] <warfar> well
#1001 [10:31] <warfar> thats stressing
#1002 [10:32] <warfar> dafaq
#1003 [10:33] <warfar> it ran
#1004 [10:33] <DiskDaemon> good, so your gpu is in perfect health, and investigations elsewhere can occur
#1005 [10:35] <warfar> great
#1006 [10:35] <DiskDaemon> I'm at a loss as to what may be causing the problem though
#1007 [10:36] <warfar> oh
#1008 [10:36] <warfar> i think
#1009 [10:36] <warfar> technic works
#1010 [10:36] <warfar> technic works
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#1012 [10:36] <DiskDaemon> Oh god no, not technic
#1013 [10:37] <DiskDaemon> We do not support that here.
#1014 [10:37] <warfar> well
#1015 [10:37] <warfar> optifine?
#1016 [10:37] <warfar> also
#1017 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> Get the real Minecraft.exe from minecraft.net and tell us if you still have the same problem
#1018 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> ??> warfar mods
#1019 [10:38] <warfar> lol i use that
#1020 [10:38] <VoxelHead> warfar: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1021 [10:38] <VoxelHead> warfar: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#1022 [10:38] <warfar> im just using it as a reference
#1023 [10:38] <warfar> but advanced opengl is on on the "mod" and off on vaniila
#1024 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> Get minecraft.exe from the minecraft.net web site and tell us if you still have the same problem with that.
#1025 [10:39] <warfar> i use that
#1026 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> It's too late for this. I'm going to bed.
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#1028 [10:39] <DiskDaemon> g'night
#1029 [10:39] <warfar> great
#1030 [10:40] <warfar> anyone else that can help?
#1031 [10:40] <oldtopman> Sure.
#1032 [10:40] <oldtopman> Sure.
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#1034 [10:40] <oldtopman> What's the base problem?
#1035 [10:40] <oldtopman> I've been following the troubleshooting for a bit.
#1036 [10:40] <warfar> could you read above
#1037 [10:40] <warfar> oh
#1038 [10:40] <warfar> ok
#1039 [10:41] <warfar> minecraft crashed my ati gpu but not intel
#1040 [10:41] * oldtopman was in too late to see your original problem
#1040 [10:41] <warfar> its not the drivers
#1041 [10:41] <oldtopman> huh
#1042 [10:41] <oldtopman> Error message?
#1043 [10:41] <warfar> and i ran an opengl based benchmark
#1044 [10:41] <warfar> no error
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#1046 [10:41] <warfar> gpu fails
#1047 [10:41] <warfar> and recovers
#1048 [10:41] <warfar> opengl benchmark did not crash my gpu
#1049 [10:42] <oldtopman> Alright.
#1050 [10:42] <oldtopman> Alright.
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#1052 [10:42] <oldtopman> Do you have any single player worlds you'd like to keep?
#1053 [10:42] <warfar> nope
#1054 [10:42] <oldtopman> Press the win+r key and type in "%appdata%"
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#1056 [10:43] <warfar> k ill try deleteing .minecraft
#1057 [10:43] <warfar> but can i keep resources
#1058 [10:43] <Calinou> no
#1059 [10:43] <Calinou> only delete the "bin" folder
#1060 [10:43] <Calinou> else you will delete your server list, your saves and texture packs
#1061 [10:44] <warfar> Well he asked if i wanted to keep worlds
#1062 [10:44] <oldtopman> You want to *open* .minecraft
#1063 [10:44] <Johnnyreb> hey, I can not bring up my chat in the game.
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#1065 [10:45] <oldtopman> warfar: delete bin.
#1066 [10:45] <warfar> ok
#1067 [10:45] <warfar> actually
#1068 [10:45] <oldtopman> Johnnyreb: Single or multi player?
#1069 [10:45] <Johnnyreb> Single
#1070 [10:45] <warfar> ill just delete everything except resources its a crowded mess
#1071 [10:46] <oldtopman> Johnnyreb: There is no chat in SSP. Not yet. 1.3 is expected to have it.
#1072 [10:46] <Johnnyreb> hmmmmm
#1073 [10:46] <oldtopman> warfar: Why not resources?
#1074 [10:46] <warfar> what version?
#1075 [10:46] <Johnnyreb> then how do I make commands
#1076 [10:46] <warfar> im on close to dialup right now
#1077 [10:46] <warfar> not in the mood to wait
#1078 [10:46] <oldtopman> Johnnyreb: You cannot do that in this version.
#1079 [10:47] <oldtopman> warfar: Fair enough.
#1080 [10:47] <Johnnyreb> wow
#1081 [10:47] <oldtopman> Also, are you using the regular client?
#1082 [10:47] <warfar> yeah
#1083 [10:47] <Johnnyreb> will a new version change that?
#1084 [10:49] <oldtopman> Johnnyreb: 1.3 is not expected to be released for some time.
#1085 [10:49] <SinZ> 1.3 changes it
#1086 [10:49] <SinZ> its suppost to be out august 1st
#1087 [10:49] <oldtopman> feh
#1088 [10:49] <Johnnyreb> what I am trying to do is set a stone block to a different postion.
#1089 [10:49] <oldtopman> So far away q.q
#1090 [10:50] <Johnnyreb> stair block
#1091 [10:50] <zen> 1st august, using valvetime
#1092 [10:50] <warfar> also im not a pirate http://goo.gl/QdJzu
#1093 [10:50] <oldtopman> zen: Valvetime would be Aug 1 2013
#1094 [10:50] <warfar> oh gos
#1095 [10:50] <warfar> d
#1096 [10:50] <Johnnyreb> to make a better looking arch
#1097 [10:50] <warfar> downloading minecraft.jar .01kb/s
#1098 [10:50] <zen> oldtopman, thats what jeb's tweet said
#1099 [10:50] <oldtopman> zen: nuuu
#1100 [10:51] <warfar> johnnyreb: theres no command for that unless world edit has one which i dont know of
#1101 [10:51] <zen> https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/219828495918960641 what it says here ;)
#1102 [10:52] <warfar> and still 1.3 does not have worldedit
#1103 [10:52] <warfar> also can you guys help with visual basic?
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#1105 [10:53] <oldtopman> warfar: Nope. webchat.freenode.net, try looking for a channel over there.
#1106 [10:53] <warfar> ok
#1107 [10:53] <Boreeas> Eww Basic
#1108 [10:53] <Johnnyreb> can i play with another version?
#1109 [10:53] <warfar> but can you still help me with my issue?
#1110 [10:53] <oldtopman> There's #vb, but it looks a bit empty.
#1111 [10:53] <oldtopman> warfar: Is it working now?
#1112 [10:53] <warfar> oh wait
#1113 [10:53] <warfar> im sorry
#1114 [10:53] <warfar> nvm
#1115 [10:53] <oldtopman> Johnnyreb: We don't support pre-releases here, but that's what you're looking for.
#1116 [10:53] <warfar> minecraft just finished loading
#1117 [10:54] <oldtopman> ??< index
#1118 [10:54] <Johnnyreb> no, play with a older version
#1119 [10:54] <zen> Johnnyreb, the older versions do not have them, and nor is there a way to get an older version
#1120 [10:55] <warfar> mc nostalgia
#1121 [10:55] <zen> Did not want to point to something that isn't supported by the channel tbh.
#1122 [10:56] <warfar> its perfectly legal
#1123 [10:56] <zen> But still won't get him any single player commands.
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#1125 [10:56] <warfar> gpu dail
#1126 [10:56] <warfar> fail
#1127 [10:57] <warfar> gpu still fails
#1128 [10:57] <oldtopman> ??> warfar win/dxdiag/bat
#1129 [10:57] <VoxelHead> warfar: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1130 [10:57] <VoxelHead> warfar: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1131 [10:58] <Johnnyreb> i see videos of people using stair blocks in different postion all the time, where and how are they able to do this?
#1132 [10:58] <warfar> placing the stairs on a ceiling
#1133 [10:58] <warfar> or a mod
#1134 [10:59] <oldtopman> Johnnyreb: You just place the stairs on a ceiling.
#1135 [10:59] <Johnnyreb> ahhhhhh
#1136 [10:59] <warfar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1076542/
#1137 [10:59] <Johnnyreb> let me try
#1138 [10:59] <oldtopman> It's so obvious, and yet so disingenuous
#1139 [11:00] <warfar> sorry i have Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia
#1140 [11:02] <oldtopman> warfar: The HD 6490M is incompatible with minecraft.
#1141 [11:02] <warfar> orlly
#1142 [11:02] <oldtopman> It's an AMD problem, so you need a new driver.
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#1144 [11:02] <Johnnyreb> wow, that's heavy
#1145 [11:02] <Johnnyreb> thank you
#1146 [11:02] <Calinou> ...ubuntu paste
#1147 [11:02] <oldtopman> Yeah, googling "HD 6490M minecraft crash" gives a lot of people with your problem.
#1148 [11:02] <oldtopman> Sorry mate :/
#1149 [11:02] <Calinou> are you on linux + AMD? why? ._.
#1150 [11:02] <oldtopman> Calinou: If you'd click the link, you'd see that he's not.
#1151 [11:03] <warfar> so your saying i didnt touch my amd(no driver updates) and it randomly stopped working 2 days ago
#1152 [11:03] <warfar> lol
#1153 [11:03] <oldtopman> warfar: Apparently so.
#1154 [11:03] <warfar> plus
#1155 [11:03] <warfar> its a .bat file
#1156 [11:03] <oldtopman> Calinou: But yeah, everyone hates pastebin, so you use what you can :P
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#1158 [11:03] <warfar> but still
#1159 [11:04] <warfar> what makes it uncompatabl
#1160 [11:05] <Johnnyreb> thanks for the help oldtopman
#1161 [11:05] <oldtopman> warfar: I don't know.
#1162 [11:05] <warfar> i can run a opengl based benchmark fine
#1163 [11:05] <oldtopman> Johnnyreb: No problem.
#1164 [11:05] <Necrodoom> oldtopman: who hates pastebin?
#1165 [11:05] <warfar> calinou
#1166 [11:05] <Necrodoom> oldtopman: what the F you hate a site which holds pastes?
#1167 [11:06] <warfar> and plus i used ubuntus
#1168 [11:06] <Necrodoom> its like hating water
#1169 [11:06] <warfar> <water hater
#1170 [11:06] <oldtopman> Necrodoom: I don't mind it for general purposes, but if you go to a lot of programming circles, they have quite a list of dislikes.
#1171 [11:07] <warfar> lol so i should mass email amd with Y MINECRAFT NO WORK?
#1172 [11:07] <oldtopman> It forces the paste to be half a screen wide, the alternating colors are a mess, some formatting is lost, and copy-paste doesn't work well in some of the odd browsers.
#1173 [11:08] <warfar> well then
#1174 [11:08] <warfar> so you expect coders to take 1000 images of their cose?
#1175 [11:08] <oldtopman> No >.>
#1176 [11:08] <warfar> also ubuntu paste is full sized
#1177 [11:09] <warfar> code*
#1178 [11:09] <oldtopman> codepad, ideone, others, those are reccomended.
#1179 [11:09] <oldtopman> Again, for general purposes I don't mind it, but this is one of the reasons you see alternative paste sites going about.
#1180 [11:09] <warfar> also
#1181 [11:10] <warfar> why does minecraft work better(faster) on an intel card than an amd
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#1185 [11:12] <austin1355> hey zack u there??
#1186 [11:13] <austin1355> #zack6849
#1187 [11:13] <warfar> pm him stop spamming -.-
#1188 [11:14] <austin1355> what do u type for pm
#1189 [11:14] <Morrolan> "/query <user> <text>"
#1190 [11:14] <Morrolan> e.g. "/query morrolan this is a pm!"
#1191 [11:14] <warfar> or rightclick his name
#1192 [11:15] <Boreeas> warfar: That depends on the client
#1193 [11:15] <warfar> oh
#1194 [11:15] <warfar> yeah
#1195 [11:15] <warfar> well most people use mirc
#1196 [11:15] <Boreeas> Actually, he uses webchat, as do most visistors here
#1197 [11:15] * Morrolan is tempted to do a CTCP VERSION on everyone in here and gather stats
#1197 [11:16] <Boreeas> I myself use Chatzilla, where you just have to left click
#1198 [11:16] <warfar> or double click in my case
#1199 [11:20] * warfar slaps warfar around a bit with a large trout
#1199 [11:24] * Morrolan slaps VoxelHead around a bit with a large trout
#1199 [11:24] <Morrolan> Yep, that alias is still there, too.
#1200 [11:25] <warfar> lol its an option on my client
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#1203 [11:30] <Moxanik> Why does my menu pop up every 2-3 clicks and tells me that I cant save the game?
#1204 [11:31] <warfar> Sounds like a mod
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#1206 [11:35] <morebinhood> help
#1207 [11:35] <morebinhood> i bought an account but i cant loggin after few times
#1208 [11:35] <morebinhood> it was a gift code from my friend
#1209 [11:36] <morebinhood> hey
#1210 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Where did he buy it from?
#1211 [11:36] <warfar> http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#1212 [11:36] <morebinhood> minecraft.net
#1213 [11:36] <warfar> motd
#1214 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure about that?
#1215 [11:36] <morebinhood> i can still login last time
#1216 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> What is your username?
#1217 [11:37] <morebinhood> but i cant login now ,why?
#1218 [11:37] <morebinhood> morebinhood
#1219 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> What error do you get?
#1220 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> !paid morebinhood
#1221 [11:37] <warfar> trolled
#1222 [11:37] <morebinhood> what?
#1223 [11:37] <GreyVulpine> If he didn't purchase the gift code directly from minecraft.net, he most likely got scammed
#1224 [11:37] <morebinhood> i pay for it
#1225 [11:38] <warfar> well
#1226 [11:38] <morebinhood> what the hell?
#1227 [11:38] <oldtopman> How much did you pay for it?
#1228 [11:38] <morebinhood> $60 hongkongdollers
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#1230 [11:38] <oldtopman> ??> morebinhood scam
#1231 [11:38] <VoxelHead> morebinhood: (scam) If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#1232 [11:38] <VoxelHead> morebinhood: (scam) DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#1233 [11:38] <warfar> scammed
#1234 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> Er, yeah, you got scammed
#1235 [11:38] <GreyVulpine> 20 euros is significantly more than 60 HKD
#1236 [11:39] <warfar> thats arround 10 usd
#1237 [11:39] <warfar> which is around 8 euros
#1238 [11:39] <warfar> wild guess
#1239 [11:39] <warfar> lol
#1240 [11:39] <warfar> im right
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#1242 [11:40] <morebinhood> what shold i do now?
#1243 [11:40] <warfar> demand a refund
#1244 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> Get your money back
#1245 [11:40] <warfar> if the person doesnt give one
#1246 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Purchase it directly from minecraft.net next time.
#1247 [11:41] <warfar> ill help
#1248 [11:41] * warfar puts on his ddos glasses
#1248 [11:41] <warfar> lol jk
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#1250 [11:41] <morebinhood> i dun have Credit card
#1251 [11:41] <warfar> well
#1252 [11:41] <warfar> since your in china
#1253 [11:41] <warfar> like me
#1254 [11:41] <warfar> ironicly
#1255 [11:41] <warfar> i would
#1256 [11:42] <warfar> hmm
#1257 [11:42] <warfar> wire money to paypal
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#1264 [11:53] <Lane> So, i tried to install the new snapshot and it wont copy the file called "aux.class"
#1265 [11:53] <Lane> Anybody know why?
#1266 [11:54] <warfar> snapshots are not supported
#1267 [11:54] <Lane> Nice.
#1268 [11:55] <morebinhood> fuck those sons of the bitch
#1269 [11:55] * AuBot kicked morebinhood from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orebinhood :Please keep it civil.)
#1270 [11:55] <warfar> Nice.
#1271 [11:55] <Calinou> lol
#1272 [11:55] <Calinou> lol warfar
#1273 [11:55] <warfar> :P
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#1276 [12:08] <warfar> anyone here to help me?
#1277 [12:08] <warfar> reallllly off topic
#1278 [12:09] <Necrodoom> warfar: just ask, someone will answer
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#1280 [12:12] <warfar> i need help on finding the best website for cheap flights, as i said really off topic
#1281 [12:13] <GreyVulpine> Kinda hard, if you're in china
#1282 [12:13] <warfar> anywhere in china pref beijing/guanzhou to jfk/any ny airport
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#1284 [12:14] <warfar> well whats the best airline
#1285 [12:14] <warfar> well wtf
#1286 [12:15] <GreyVulpine> Check out Hotwire.com, Priceline.com Expedia.com, travelocity..
#1287 [12:15] <warfar> apparently expedia.co.uk is cheaper than .com
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#1289 [12:15] <warfar> £820=1,040$ and on .com its 1.2k
#1290 [12:15] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1290 [12:16] <GreyVulpine> There's no "best" airline. It's how much you're willing to compromise price for service. Do you plan on having much checked luggage? How about seating?
#1291 [12:16] <warfar> LOL
#1292 [12:16] <warfar> right now
#1293 [12:16] <warfar> our family is being super cheap
#1294 [12:17] <warfar> the airline we currently have is only 1 luggage
#1295 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Carryon?
#1296 [12:17] <warfar> 50lbs
#1297 [12:17] <warfar> 1
#1298 [12:17] <warfar> but
#1299 [12:17] <warfar> we broke that rule
#1300 [12:17] <warfar> have a backpack and a carryon
#1301 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> Don't know how it is over there, but in the US, as long as it fits under the seat...
#1302 [12:17] <warfar> ...
#1303 [12:17] <GreyVulpine> They don't care
#1304 [12:18] <warfar> nono
#1305 [12:18] <warfar> im here for vacation
#1306 [12:18] <Calinou> #minecrafthelp = now about planes!
#1307 [12:18] <Calinou> lol
#1308 [12:18] <warfar> thats why im on this irc server
#1309 [12:18] <warfar> :P
#1310 [12:18] <warfar> wait
#1311 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> As for checked luggage, it's 20-25 USD per
#1312 [12:18] <warfar> is there#cheap planes
#1313 [12:18] <GreyVulpine> Sure there is.
#1314 [12:18] <warfar> on esper?
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#1316 [12:19] <GreyVulpine> Oh, as the channel, hah, no
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#1318 [12:22] <warfar> well
#1319 [12:22] <warfar> theres a #cheap
#1320 [12:22] <warfar> xD
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#1322 [12:23] <warfar> ...
#1323 [12:23] <warfar> there is
#1324 [12:23] <GreyVulpine> Cheapest I'm seeing is about 2659 USD/person
#1325 [12:23] <warfar> ...
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#1327 [12:24] <GreyVulpine> With a day layover in amsterdam. Heh
#1328 [12:24] <warfar> get on querry
#1329 [12:25] <Calinou> wtf
#1330 [12:25] <warfar> what
#1331 [12:25] <Calinou> since when plane is 2659$/person
#1332 [12:25] <warfar> roundtrip?
#1333 [12:25] <warfar> my guess
#1334 [12:25] <GreyVulpine> http://travela.priceline.com/airlines/fareResults.do?session_key=5564010A4663010A20120705162046678360251713&plf=pcln&jarmkey=5663010A5863010AGYBDnxxH802skoq0WVntsA9367&INIT_SESSION=true
#1335 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Roundtrip
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#1337 [12:26] <warfar> im returning
#1338 [12:26] <warfar> also
#1339 [12:26] <Calinou> why do you even want to flight
#1340 [12:26] <Calinou> holidays suck
#1341 [12:26] <warfar> goo.gl that nexttime
#1342 [12:26] <warfar> im returning
#1343 [12:26] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1343 [12:26] <Calinou> goo.gl sucks; tinyurl.com ftw
#1344 [12:26] <warfar> goo.gl is smaller
#1345 [12:26] <warfar> goo.gl is smaller
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#1347 [12:26] <Calinou> and is glitchy
#1348 [12:26] <warfar> well
#1349 [12:26] <Morrolan> Why should you use an URL shortener on IRC for anything but a topic?
#1350 [12:26] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I'm still seeing 2600USD as about the cheapest
#1351 [12:27] <warfar> im getting 1171
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#1353 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Don't know when you plan on flying, so.
#1354 [12:27] <warfar> transfer at russia
#1355 [12:27] <warfar> heh
#1356 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Er.. yea.
#1357 [12:27] <warfar> end of july
#1358 [12:27] <warfar> befor 30th
#1359 [12:27] <GreyVulpine> Good luck with that
#1360 [12:27] <warfar> right now
#1361 [12:27] <warfar> our tickets are 1k
#1362 [12:27] <warfar> full
#1363 [12:28] <Warfar> get on #cheapplanes if you wanna help me
#1364 [12:28] <GreyVulpine> As a roundtrip?
#1365 [12:28] <Warfar> it exits
#1366 [12:28] <Warfar> exists
#1367 [12:28] <blisterminer> Has anyone heard og the server Super Fun Time?
#1368 [12:28] <Warfar> well
#1369 [12:28] <Warfar> i made it
#1370 [12:28] <Warfar> blisterminer nope
#1371 [12:28] <omg> warfar: dohop.com
#1372 [12:28] <blisterminer> oh
#1373 [12:29] <Warfar> thanks
#1374 [12:29] <blisterminer> BALLS
#1375 [12:29] <Warfar> well then
#1376 [12:29] <Warfar> that was...
#1377 [12:29] <omg> Warfar: best algorithms i am aware of
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#1379 [12:30] <omg> from where to where do you wanna go?
#1380 [12:30] <omg> sorry, didnt read all backlog
#1381 [12:30] <Warfar> tsn/pek/guanzhou to jfk/ny airports
#1382 [12:31] <Shamanomanom> Hello. I feal like a nub for asking this question but for some reason my sis on her laptop can NOT connect to the minecraft server that I have downloaded and is running on my personal computer. does any one know where I can find the address for her to use since shes all ready in my network?
#1383 [12:31] <Warfar> Win+r
#1384 [12:31] <Warfar> cmd
#1385 [12:31] <Warfar> ipconfig
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#1387 [12:31] <Warfar> find your ipv4 adress
#1388 [12:32] <Warfar> connect to that
#1389 [12:32] <Shamanomanom> aaaa ok thats what got me confused thanks alot
#1390 [12:32] <Warfar> :)
#1391 [12:32] <Warfar> omg: dohop didnt help
#1392 [12:32] <Shamanomanom> been trin to get that working for the last week >.> but thanks
#1393 [12:33] <Warfar> does anyone have an avation license
#1394 [12:33] <Warfar> and a plane
#1395 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> Hah, no
#1396 [12:34] <Warfar> paying 2k for transportation of 2 ppl and a shitload of luggage
#1397 [12:34] <Warfar> to a far location
#1398 [12:34] <GreyVulpine> And sorry, cheapest I'm seeing is 1400 a ticket one way
#1399 [12:34] <Warfar> wow
#1400 [12:34] <Warfar> im seeing alot cheaper
#1401 [12:34] <Warfar> cheapest 1.k
#1402 [12:34] <Warfar> 1.1k
#1403 [12:35] <Warfar> well
#1404 [12:35] <Warfar> i guess ill go with transaero
#1405 [12:35] <Warfar> transfer at moscow
#1406 [12:35] <Warfar> 1k
#1407 [12:35] <Warfar> :P
#1408 [12:35] <Warfar> well now to get o-t
#1409 [12:36] <Warfar> y minecraft no work with my amd
#1410 [12:38] <Warfar> ಠ_ಠ
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#1414 [12:45] <marcatjos> i have just purchased minecraft for my sons laptop but it will not download the packages or open the game ?
#1415 [12:46] <Cheap|Warfar> Os?
#1416 [12:46] <Cheap|Warfar> Java Version?
#1417 [12:46] <Cheap|Warfar> Specify 32/64
#1418 [12:46] <Cheap|Warfar> !
#1419 [12:47] <marcatjos> windows 7 newest version java will have to bear with me not very good with computer speak
#1420 [12:47] <Cheap|Warfar> ok
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#1422 [12:47] <TheFIREVIN> Hello
#1423 [12:47] <Cheap|Warfar> right click computer properties
#1424 [12:47] <Cheap|Warfar> then find the bit
#1425 [12:48] <Cheap|Warfar> well actually
#1426 [12:48] <TheFIREVIN> When will the minecraft version 1.3.5?
#1427 [12:48] <Cheap|Warfar> first
#1428 [12:48] <Cheap|Warfar> TheFIREVIN Unkown
#1429 [12:48] <Cheap|Warfar> unknowned*
#1430 [12:48] <marcatjos> 64 bit
#1431 [12:48] <Grim_Reaper> [18:48] <TheFIREVIN> When will the minecraft version 1.3.5?
#1432 [12:48] <Grim_Reaper> There is no set date
#1433 [12:48] <Cheap|Warfar> marcatjos: Whats your user name
#1434 [12:48] <TheFIREVIN> When is the version 1.3.5 minecraft
#1435 [12:49] <Cheap|Warfar> TheFIREVIN: Your question is invalid
#1436 [12:49] <Grim_Reaper> There is no set date. However Jeb will try release it somewhere around 1st August if things work out
#1437 [12:49] <Grim_Reaper> It's not a promise though
#1438 [12:49] <marcatjos> marcatjos
#1439 [12:49] <Cheap|Warfar> !paid
#1440 [12:49] <Cheap|Warfar> hmm
#1441 [12:49] <Cheap|Warfar> oh
#1442 [12:49] <Necrodoom> wait, 1.3.5?
#1443 [12:49] <Necrodoom> wat
#1444 [12:49] <Cheap|Warfar> !paid marcatjos
#1445 [12:49] <Cheap|Warfar> ok
#1446 [12:49] <Cheap|Warfar> ok
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#1448 [12:49] <Grim_Reaper> Necrodoom he clearly doesn't know his versions ~
#1449 [12:49] <Cheap|Warfar> marcatjos: can you please explain in more detail?
#1450 [12:50] <Cheap|Warfar> When you click login what happenens
#1451 [12:50] <marcatjos> explain what
#1452 [12:50] <marcatjos> oh it starts to download packages then freezes at about 10%
#1453 [12:51] <Cheap|Warfar> By freeze does the download freeze or application
#1454 [12:51] <marcatjos> download
#1455 [12:51] <Cheap|Warfar> hm
#1456 [12:51] <Cheap|Warfar> sounds like
#1457 [12:51] <Cheap|Warfar> firewall
#1458 [12:51] <Cheap|Warfar> try disabling av/firewall
#1459 [12:52] <marcatjos> ok
#1460 [12:52] <Grim_Reaper> marcatjos, as Cheap|Warfar said. Try disabling any firewalls you might be running. Also try running the game as Administrator
#1461 [12:52] <Grim_Reaper> if that still does not work. Please let me know and we'll try help you further
#1462 [12:52] <marcatjos> ok thanks
#1463 [12:55] <Cheap|Warfar> Off-Topic but The scale of the universe is so awesome
#1464 [12:56] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1465 [12:57] <marcatjos> still did not work stopped at 3%
#1466 [12:57] <Cheap|Warfar> hmm
#1467 [12:57] <Grim_Reaper> Ok marcatjos try this
#1468 [12:57] <Grim_Reaper> ??> marcatjos win/.minecraft
#1469 [12:57] <VoxelHead> marcatjos: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%", and click OK. The folder you want is ".minecraft".
#1470 [12:57] <Grim_Reaper> Once you see your .minecraft folder
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#1472 [12:58] <Grim_Reaper> Please right click on it, and click delete
#1473 [12:58] <Cheap|Warfar> Also whats your internet speed?
#1474 [12:58] <Grim_Reaper> Then after that, please try running the game launcher again and see if the update works that time
#1475 [12:59] <marcatjos> 30+ meg speed
#1476 [12:59] <Warfar> using a router?
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#1478 [13:00] <thunderscar1> hello
#1479 [13:00] <thunderscar1> i need help
#1480 [13:00] <Warfar> Hi
#1481 [13:00] <Warfar> Detail?
#1482 [13:00] <marcatjos> yes wireless
#1483 [13:00] <thunderscar1> i will run my minecraft and after about 5 min it will crash and pop up with a hs_err_pid
#1484 [13:01] <Warfar> Pastebin the log
#1485 [13:01] <thunderscar1> how can i fix this
#1486 [13:01] <thunderscar1> do what?
#1487 [13:01] <Warfar> open the hs_err_pid
#1488 [13:01] <Warfar> and pastebin it
#1489 [13:01] <thunderscar1> ok
#1490 [13:01] <Warfar> pastebin.com
#1491 [13:02] <thunderscar1> k
#1492 [13:02] <marcatjos> deleted .minecraft folder run launcher stopped at 10%
#1493 [13:02] <Grim_Reaper> hmm..
#1494 [13:02] <Warfar> what file is it downloading?
#1495 [13:03] <marcatjos> its says downloading iwjgl.jar
#1496 [13:04] <thunderscar1> okay so i paste all the info that was in the document onto pastebin.com?
#1497 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> Are you sure you've disabled anti viruses and such marcatjos?
#1498 [13:04] <Warfar> yeah
#1499 [13:04] <Grim_Reaper> Usually that issue occurs with some form of security blocking it
#1500 [13:05] <Warfar> hey Grim_Reaper have him ping amazon's servers
#1501 [13:05] <thunderscar1> okay then what?
#1502 [13:05] <Warfar> i dont know the full link
#1503 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1504 [13:05] <Warfar> paste the link to the paste
#1505 [13:05] <marcatjos> i'll check like i said not v good with computers
#1506 [13:05] <thunderscar1> lol what?
#1507 [13:05] <Grim_Reaper> If your son knows how, ask him to check as well
#1508 [13:05] <thunderscar1> that didn make sence soryry
#1509 [13:06] <Warfar> click submit
#1510 [13:06] <Warfar> then give us the link
#1511 [13:07] <thunderscar1> ok
#1512 [13:09] <thunderscar1> i dont c the submit button
#1513 [13:09] <Warfar> ...
#1514 [13:10] <Warfar> its near the bottom
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#1517 [13:13] <SLEEPING|Warfar> bai
#1518 [13:13] <SLEEPING|Warfar> bai
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#1521 [13:15] <thunderscar1> hello
#1522 [13:17] <marcatjos> thanks for all your help it has worked my son says you are legends !!!!!
#1523 [13:17] <Grim_Reaper> marcatjos glad to hear
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#1525 [13:20] <Wolf_JAJV> CZ?
#1526 [13:21] <Wolf_JAJV> je tady česká podpora?
#1527 [13:21] <Wolf_JAJV> The Windows 8 can not run Minecraft
#1528 [13:22] <Wolf_JAJV> why?
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#1530 [13:24] <Wolf_JAJV> The Windows 8 can not run Minecraft
#1531 [13:24] <Wolf_JAJV> is anyone here?
#1532 [13:31] <geraldbrent> The Windows 8...
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#1534 [13:43] <ozumakenishi> guys
#1535 [13:43] <ozumakenishi> i need help
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#1537 [13:44] <ozumakenishi> when my minecraft is updating it stops and i cant play
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#1539 [13:59] <Tafi> Anybody else than me who also gets this error everytime they try to join a multiplayer server? : Internal client error: java.net.unknownhostExeption: Session.minecraft.net
#1540 [14:01] <Tafi> Or anybody who knows how to fix it?
#1541 [14:13] <Morrolan> Tried to restart your client?
#1542 [14:13] <Morrolan> Actually, that error seems to be a different one than I thought at first glance.
#1543 [14:13] <Morrolan> Are you on Windows?
#1544 [14:14] <Tafi> Yes
#1545 [14:14] <Tafi> I have tried to ping to session.minecraft.net
#1546 [14:15] <Morrolan> Did it resolve?
#1547 [14:15] <Tafi> Nope
#1548 [14:16] <Morrolan> Were you here a few days ago already?
#1549 [14:16] <Tafi> Nope, but i have got this problem for several days now
#1550 [14:16] <Morrolan> Okay. Suggest you start by checking your hosts file:
#1551 [14:16] <Morrolan> ?? win/hosts
#1552 [14:16] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1553 [14:16] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
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#1555 [14:16] <Morrolan> Ignore the pastebin part, just check whether there are any minecraft-related lines in that file Vox told you where to find.
#1556 [14:17] <brandonpaintball> Hey guys, I need help with changing my IP from dynamic to static for my server, Does anybody have knowledge on the subject?
#1557 [14:18] <Calinou> brandonpaintball, we do not help with this kind of stuff
#1558 [14:18] <Calinou> a static external IP has to be requested from your ISP, often, and is often paid too
#1559 [14:18] <Calinou> or, get a free domain and update it regularly.
#1560 [14:18] <Calinou> or just don't restart your router every 5 minutes.
#1561 [14:18] <Morrolan> brandonpaintball - Apart from that you could use a service like dyndns.com
#1562 [14:18] <brandonpaintball> I called my ISP and they said they dont have the authorization to do it, and they dont advise it.
#1563 [14:19] <Morrolan> What, they don't have the authorization to sell you a static IP?
#1564 [14:19] <brandonpaintball> Verizon wireless, No
#1565 [14:19] * Calinou has a dynamic IP
#1565 [14:19] <Calinou> my IP rarely changes because I don't restart my router every 5 minutes
#1566 [14:19] <Morrolan> Then you'll have to use something like dyndns.com or similar.
#1567 [14:20] <brandonpaintball> I don't restart my router rarely ever, will my IP be fine to give to my friends to play on my server?
#1568 [14:21] <Calinou> yes
#1569 [14:21] <Calinou> you usually do not need a static IP, rarely
#1570 [14:21] <Calinou> and it isn't worth it
#1571 [14:21] <Calinou> compared to the *ehm* advantages, *ehm*
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#1573 [14:22] <brandonpaintball> alright then, thanks for the help
#1574 [14:22] <Tafi_> Woops
#1575 [14:22] <Calinou> hi?
#1576 [14:22] <einand> you usaly do not need a random ip
#1577 [14:22] <Calinou> ._.
#1578 [14:23] <Tafi_> This is what the "Host" file says
#1579 [14:24] <Tafi_> Voxelhead, what am i supposed to copy from the host file?
#1580 [14:26] <Morrolan> Tafi_ - All of it, put it on www.pastebin.com
#1581 [14:26] <Morrolan> VoxelHead is a bot, btw.
#1582 [14:27] <Eddie> A sentient bot.
#1583 [14:27] <Eddie> No not really.
#1584 [14:27] <Morrolan> He does have feelings though. :)
#1585 [14:27] * Morrolan strokes VoxelHead
#1585 [14:27] <Tafi_> http://pastebin.com/nYidUcMk
#1586 [14:27] <Morrolan> Seems the hosts file isn't the cause.
#1587 [14:28] <Morrolan> Okay, do you know how to open a command prompt?
#1588 [14:28] <Tafi_> Yea
#1589 [14:28] <Morrolan> Open one, type in "nslookup session.minecraft.net 8.8.8.8"
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#1591 [14:28] <Morrolan> This will try to resolve the hostname via Google's DNS servers. Should show us whether it's an issue with your default DNS server or something different.
#1592 [14:30] <Tafi_> http://pastebin.com/Upgxgbs4
#1593 [14:30] <Morrolan> Well, seems it does resolve it. What if you just type "nslookup session.minecraft.net" ?
#1594 [14:31] <Morrolan> You needn't pastebin that one, just tell me whether it says that it resolved or not. :)
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#1597 [14:32] <Kameechewa> When I try to run minecraft it says it could not initialize the VM
#1598 [14:32] <Tafi_> Well, i did it anyway, just to be sure http://pastebin.com/QDdYspit
#1599 [14:32] <Kameechewa> Anybody know a solution
#1600 [14:32] <knobi> how do i get texture packs?
#1601 [14:33] <Kameechewa> Well the place sucks
#1602 [14:33] <Tafi_> lol
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#1606 [14:39] <TheSquirrel> Hi i just bought Minecraft but cant log in, can anybody help?
#1607 [14:39] <ExeciN> just wait
#1608 [14:40] <Tafi_> Have you tried to log in on the webpage Minecraft.net?
#1609 [14:40] <TheSquirrel> yes i logged into the website fine
#1610 [14:40] <Tafi_> Try www.Minecraft.net/play
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#1612 [14:42] <TheSquirrel_> sorry just dced from chat can you give the link again please
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#1614 [14:42] <Tafi_> www.Minecraft.net/play
#1615 [14:42] <Morrolan> Tafi_ - It would seem as if your default dns server doesn't resolve properly.
#1616 [14:42] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Poke
#1617 [14:43] <ExeciN> Where can I find the earth-like curvature mod? All the links I found were down.
#1618 [14:44] <Morrolan> Tafi_ - To fix this you could change your network connection to use a public DNS server, like google's, by default. You can do that here: Control Panel -> Network and Internet -> NEtwork connections
#1619 [14:44] <Morrolan> Tafi_ - There right-click on your connection -> Properties, select "Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/PIv4), select "Properties"
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#1621 [14:45] <Morrolan> Then select "Use the following DNS server addresses" and put "8.8.8.8" as "PReferred DNS server"
#1622 [14:46] <Tafi_> Then it should work?
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#1625 [14:54] <Morrolan> Tafi_ - Yep.
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#1627 [14:55] <Tafi_> Thank you :)
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#1630 [15:01] <Ethan> Hey, when i click multiplayer to play minecraft it doesnt load and i get a white screen
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#1632 [15:02] <Ethan> did you get my question?
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#1635 [15:04] <Ethan> i get a white screen when i try to play minecraft. why?
#1636 [15:04] <cooldude22299> idk
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#1638 [15:05] <cooldude22299> how do i get the snap shot
#1639 [15:05] <Ethan> dude id like it if you answered my question.
#1640 [15:06] <Ethan> i get a white scrren when i try to play minecraft. why?
#1641 [15:06] <Elystus> Ethan, are you trying to play the classic version?
#1642 [15:06] <cooldude22299> i dont work for mincraft
#1643 [15:06] <Ethan> no the paid version.
#1644 [15:06] <Ethan> i just bought it and i cant play it!
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#1646 [15:07] <zack6849> sommone pinged me?
#1647 [15:07] <Morrolan> Ethan - Does the downloaded version work?
#1648 [15:07] <Morrolan> !client
#1649 [15:07] <Elystus> Ethan: Can you explain to me what exactly can happen. Also, try the downloaded version.
#1650 [15:08] <Elystus> did not can *
#1651 [15:08] <Ethan> yea, mojang loads, and then i juust get a white screen and it stays white forever.
#1652 [15:08] <Elystus> With the downloadable client as well?
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#1657 [15:15] <Ethan> minecraft wont work! i want my money back please!
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#1660 [15:15] <Calinou> -_-
#1661 [15:16] <Calinou> mojang does no refunds; and you better ask actual help instead
#1662 [15:16] <bail9865> I have been trying to buy Minecraft for the past hour. I have been trying to use a Mastercard prepaid gift card. I also tried using Paypal. Everytime it has had an error. I just want to buy Minecraft!
#1663 [15:16] * Eddie gives Higgs a Nobel prize
#1663 [15:16] <Elystus> Ethan: If you had answered my question, I would have continued to help.
#1664 [15:17] <Ethan> sorry, nothing works, i would like to know whatto do. i cant play minecraft!
#1665 [15:17] <bail9865> Ethan, do you have all the system requirements?
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#1667 [15:18] <Ethan> im pretty sure. what are the system requirements?
#1668 [15:19] <Elystus> okay, ethan lets try to generate a crash report.
#1669 [15:19] <bail9865> System Recommendations Here's roughly what we recommend for a computer playing Minecraft. Latest version of 64-bit Java (download Java here) Dedicated graphics card 1 GB of RAM
#1670 [15:19] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#1671 [15:19] <Ethan> what is a crash report? how do i do that?
#1672 [15:19] <Elystus> Bail: Don't just randomly guess.
#1673 [15:20] <Elystus> Error report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#1674 [15:20] <bail9865> I copied that from the website.
#1675 [15:20] <randomcreator18> Hello?
#1676 [15:20] <Elystus> bail9865: But it can be many other things.
#1677 [15:20] <randomcreator18> Is there a staff member i can talk to?
#1678 [15:21] <bail9865> It is just roughly what is recommended. It is not the full requirements. READ.
#1679 [15:21] <randomcreator18> I need help
#1680 [15:21] <bail9865> Yeah randomcreator18 I want a staff member too...
#1681 [15:21] <Morrolan> State your question, someone will try to help you.
#1682 [15:21] <Morrolan> None of Mojang's staff is in here though.
#1683 [15:22] <zack6849> this is a community help chat
#1684 [15:22] <Morrolan> Also, patience is a virtue, especially on IRC, prepare to wait a while for an answer.
#1685 [15:22] <Elystus> bail9865: we can determine if the error is with his hardware from the error report.
#1686 [15:22] <bail9865> I have been trying to buy Minecraft for the past hour. I have been trying to use a Mastercard prepaid gift card. I also tried using Paypal. Everytime it has had an error. Anybody know how to just buy it?
#1687 [15:22] <Morrolan> Now, dinner time, back in twenty. :)
#1688 [15:22] <randomcreator18> Morro
#1689 [15:22] <Morrolan> US-based gift cards can't be used for international transfers anymore, bail9865.
#1690 [15:23] <bail9865> Ok thanks so much!
#1691 [15:23] <Elystus> Ethan after you have gotten the crash report, put on pastebin.com please.
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#1694 [15:25] <jdbwest21> help me
#1695 [15:26] <jdbwest21> please
#1696 [15:26] <Calinou> yes? don't ask to ask
#1697 [15:26] <Calinou> please don't use enter as punctuation too
#1698 [15:26] <Elystus> State your issue
#1699 [15:27] <jdbwest21> ok my issue is i was trying to download the shader mod and my Minecrafft is like a blue fuzzy screen
#1700 [15:27] <Ethan> minecraft will not load. i bought it and cant play it.
#1701 [15:27] <jdbwest21> and i cant get it to be regular again
#1702 [15:27] <Elystus> Ethan: Can you generate me a crash report as I told you before?
#1703 [15:27] <Calinou> jdbwest21, click "force update"; we do not support mods here
#1704 [15:27] <Calinou> installation of GLSL shaders is quite involved
#1705 [15:28] <Ethan> how do i generate a crash report?
#1706 [15:28] <Calinou> ._.
#1707 [15:28] <Elystus> Error report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#1708 [15:28] <Elystus> Error report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
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#1710 [15:28] <Elystus> ^Go to that link and follow the directions
#1711 [15:28] <Elystus> then pastebin the results.
#1712 [15:29] <Calinou> http://pastebin.com < pastebin
#1713 [15:30] <Boreeas> http://paste.ubuntu.com <- better paste bin
#1714 [15:31] <Elystus> <_<
#1715 [15:31] <Boreeas> No, seriously, I hate pastebin's line wrap
#1716 [15:37] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: www.hastebin.com <- better better pastebin
#1717 [15:40] <Ethan> it didnt crash, it just wont load!
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#1720 [15:45] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Requires JS :(
#1721 [15:45] <xales> Boreeas: Welcome to the twenty-first century.
#1722 [15:46] <Calinou> <Boreeas> http://paste.ubuntu.com <- better paste bin
#1723 [15:46] <Morrolan> I honestly don't see why hastebin.com should be better. oO
#1724 [15:46] <Calinou> Ethan, if it doesn't load, then it crashes
#1725 [15:46] <Calinou> do you have AVG or avira?
#1726 [15:46] <Boreeas> Oh, it /is/ nicely animated
#1727 [15:46] <Calinou> Boreeas, made by canonical paste bin
#1728 [15:46] <Calinou> Ethan, if you have AVG or avira, disable the "link scanner" module.
#1729 [15:46] <Boreeas> Calinou: What?
#1730 [15:47] <Calinou> Boreeas, ubuntu ;)
#1731 [15:47] <Ethan> how do i check if i have that?
#1732 [15:47] <Calinou> Ethan, ...bottom right of your screen; see the icons there. hover around them and see
#1733 [15:47] <Ethan> i dont have those 2 things.
#1734 [15:48] <Calinou> you sure?
#1735 [15:48] <Ethan> yes.
#1736 [15:48] <Calinou> you could try also using the .jar launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1737 [15:48] <Calinou> put it on the desktop and double click.
#1738 [15:49] <zack6849> ethan
#1739 [15:50] <zack6849> ethan
#1740 [15:50] <Calinou> zack6849, don't spam
#1741 [15:50] <zack6849> sorry, was scrolled uop
#1742 [15:50] <Calinou> this is IRC: expect people to be away
#1743 [15:50] <zack6849> thought it didnt go through
#1744 [15:50] <Calinou> packet loss is negligible on IRC
#1745 [15:50] <Calinou> not sure if there is any... don't know if IRC is TCP or UDP
#1746 [15:50] <Ethan> im so confused! i just want to play minecraft and not lose my mney!
#1747 [15:50] <Ethan> *money
#1748 [15:50] <Calinou> Ethan, I TOLD YOU. run the .jar launcher?
#1749 [15:51] <xales> Calinou: Uh, TCP of course
#1750 [15:51] <Calinou> it has been known to work
#1751 [15:51] <Ethan> how do i run that
#1752 [15:51] <Calinou> then it has no packet loss, zack6849
#1753 [15:51] <Calinou> Ethan, double cick?
#1754 [15:51] <Calinou> pretty obvious. click*
#1755 [15:51] <zack6849> i wasnt saying that it hd been lost, i was scrolled up and forgot so i typed my message and didnt see my message in the chat
#1756 [15:52] <Ethan> i cant find .jav launcher
#1757 [15:52] <zack6849> so i asssumed i forgot to click the tex box or something
#1758 [15:52] <xales> Ethan: You were just given a link to it.
#1759 [15:53] <Calinou> Ethan, download it, put it on your desktop and double-click. I assume you're on windows?
#1760 [15:53] <Ethan> do i open it or save it
#1761 [15:53] <Calinou> save it; never use the "open" feature, it is evil
#1762 [15:54] <Calinou> even better suggestion: don't use internet explorer, it is evil. ;)
#1763 [15:55] <Ethan> so use google chrome
#1764 [15:56] <xales> Or Firefox. Or Netscape Navigator, really. ANYTHING is better than Internet Explorer.
#1765 [15:56] <Boreeas> Haha, Netscape Navigator
#1766 [15:56] <Boreeas> I remember that one
#1767 [15:57] <Boreeas> telnet is best browser
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#1772 [16:03] <cortes2000> wat do i do if my minecraft keeps on crashing
#1773 [16:04] <cortes2000> wat do i do
#1774 [16:04] <cortes2000> hello anyone here
#1775 [16:04] <Calinou> cortes2000, don't spam... any explanation?
#1776 [16:04] <Calinou> can you even start the game?
#1777 [16:05] <cortes2000> i start it after the mojang thing shows up it says it crashed
#1778 [16:06] <Calinou> cortes2000, what's your computer specs?
#1779 [16:06] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#1780 [16:06] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1781 [16:06] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1782 [16:06] <Calinou> cortes2000, do what VoxelHead says to know
#1783 [16:06] <cortes2000> ok thx o much peace out
#1784 [16:07] <Ethan> help me! minecraft wont work!
#1785 [16:09] <Calinou> Ethan. you gave NO error message
#1786 [16:09] <Calinou> so we cannot help
#1787 [16:09] <zack6849> you';ve been here at least an hour
#1788 [16:09] <Calinou> tell what you did when you crashed.
#1789 [16:09] <zack6849> is his monecraft just not opening?
#1790 [16:09] <Calinou> I'm pretty sure you have AVG, avira, or that stuff.
#1791 [16:10] <Calinou> try to disable windows's firewall temporarily, too
#1792 [16:10] <Ethan> i dont know how to give an error message
#1793 [16:10] <zack6849> -_-
#1794 [16:11] <zack6849> ethan
#1795 [16:11] <zack6849> does it say anything when yo try to start it?
#1796 [16:11] <zack6849> *you
#1797 [16:11] <Ethan> how do i give an error message
#1798 [16:11] <zack6849> or maybe before it closes?
#1799 [16:11] <Ethan> no. it loads java then the box minecraft should be in is white
#1800 [16:12] <dtsnell> hi, I came by the other day when the auth servers were down and you asked me to come back later, I haven't been able to log into the minecraft launcher for over 2 months, it just says can't connect to minecraft.net, I can log in via the browser just not launcher,
#1801 [16:12] <Elystus> dtsnell: Sounds like your log in is being blocked by something
#1802 [16:12] <zack6849> try forciing an update dtsnell
#1803 [16:12] <Elystus> dtsnell: What antivirus do you have?
#1804 [16:13] <Calinou> ipv6/session.minecraft.net syndrom, Elystus, probably
#1805 [16:13] <dtsnell> kaspersky, but I turned it off and still have the same problem
#1806 [16:13] <Elystus> It could be
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#1808 [16:13] <Elystus> Dtsnell: In the launcher, do you see any baclk areas?
#1809 [16:13] <Elystus> black*
#1810 [16:13] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting
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#1812 [16:13] <Calinou> do you have a "!" character in your windows user name?
#1813 [16:14] <dtsnell> no it looks like normal
#1814 [16:14] <Elystus> Calinou: Stop stealing my thunder ;-;
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#1816 [16:14] <Elystus> .-.
#1817 [16:14] <Calinou> dtsnell, I mean, in your windows username.
#1818 [16:14] <dtsnell> no
#1819 [16:14] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting < please see "Connection to minecraft.net fails, with HTML text up in the news panel
#1820 [16:15] <dtsnell> I have been able to log in using th launcher before
#1821 [16:16] <Elystus> dtsnell: Is there any black in the launcher or is there html in the newpanel.
#1822 [16:16] <Elystus> Calinou: beat me to it <_<
#1823 [16:16] <dtsnell> launcher looks normal
#1824 [16:16] <dtsnell> no black
#1825 [16:17] <dtsnell> tried a forced update no difference
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#1827 [16:18] <Elystus> dtsnell: what does it say when you go to this link https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#1828 [16:18] <Ethan> help me. i can only play the outdated version and i bought the pid version but it wont let me pa y it
#1829 [16:19] <Elystus> Ethan: You are not doing as we tell you to. We cannot help you if you do not do what we ask you to.
#1830 [16:19] <dtsnell> says bad login
#1831 [16:20] <Ethan> on the old version, how do i switch blocks?
#1832 [16:20] <Elystus> dtsnell: In the launcher, what exactly does it say?
#1833 [16:21] <dtsnell> when I try to login>
#1834 [16:21] <dtsnell> ?
#1835 [16:21] <dtsnell> can't connect to minecraft.net
#1836 [16:22] <Elystus> SO something is blocking it... but what is it...
#1837 [16:23] <Elystus> dtsnell: Double check to make sure that absolutely no firewalls or Anti-virus's are running/
#1838 [16:23] <dtsnell> will do
#1839 [16:23] <dtsnell> brb
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#1841 [16:24] <Shrouded> I have a question about your payment program not working
#1842 [16:25] <Elystus> Ask away :3
#1843 [16:29] <Ethan> when i try to place a block, it give me the games menu. why?
#1844 [16:29] <Elystus> Ethan: try this
#1845 [16:29] <Elystus> ??> Ethan win/reinst
#1846 [16:29] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1847 [16:29] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1848 [16:29] <Shrouded> I have been trying for a week now to buy the game and it tells me the founds are not found
#1849 [16:29] <Elystus> What is not found?
#1850 [16:30] <Shrouded> the 26$ to buy minecraft but i have more then enought money on my card
#1851 [16:30] <Ethan> thank you!
#1852 [16:30] <Elystus> Shrouded: What type of card are you using?
#1853 [16:31] <Elystus> Ethan: Did that fix you problems?
#1854 [16:31] <Shrouded> i used a debet
#1855 [16:31] <Shrouded> it even did it with paypal
#1856 [16:31] <Elystus> Shrouded: What exact card. Mastercard/visa/American Express
#1857 [16:31] <Ethan> well, im not sure yet. let me try
#1858 [16:31] <Shrouded> mastercard
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#1860 [16:32] <Elystus> Shrouded: Can you get me the exact error message
#1861 [16:32] <Elystus> it gives when trying to purchase
#1862 [16:32] <Shrouded> yes one moment
#1863 [16:33] <Djuulsh> Is there any way, that i can change my email manually..?
#1864 [16:33] <Ethan> when i try to biuld the blcok, it still brings up the game menu!
#1865 [16:33] <Elystus> Djuulsh: You have to migrate your account to change your email manually. To do this you will need to be able to access you email.
#1866 [16:34] <Elystus> Ethan: What button are you pressing to build a block?
#1867 [16:34] <Djuulsh> i'll try that out, thanks
#1868 [16:34] <Shrouded> Elystus, it was Credit/debit card funds not found
#1869 [16:34] <Ethan> the right mouse button
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#1871 [16:35] <Elystus> Okay, Ethan check you key bindings to make sure that they are set correctly.
#1872 [16:35] <Ethan> how do you check that
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#1874 [16:36] <Shrouded> Elystus, it was Credit/debit card funds not found
#1875 [16:36] <Elystus> Ethan: Nvm, there is no option to make right click the go to the menu.
#1876 [16:36] <Elystus> Shrouded: How much money is on your debit card exactly.
#1877 [16:37] <Shrouded> over 200
#1878 [16:37] <Ethan> well my right and left click both bring up the game menu. why?
#1879 [16:37] <Elystus> Ethan: When you reinstalled, what exactly did you do?
#1880 [16:37] <Ethan> well now, im actually playing the free version and having this problem
#1881 [16:38] <Elystus> Shrouded: I would call up MoneyBookers and ask them what the issue is. They might be able to have more information on this issue.
#1882 [16:38] <Elystus> Ethan: I have no idea what you have done to your pc. It seems to have a lot of issues. If you are playing classic, we do not offer support for that. I can however go back to trying to help you with the paid version.
#1883 [16:38] <Shrouded> Ok I sent an email. they have no replied yet, Thank you for your time
#1884 [16:39] <Elystus> Shrouded: You are welcome, best of luck. o/
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#1887 [16:40] <dtsnell> ok so it's kaspersky that is blocking minecraft, I dont' know why it never has done before
#1888 [16:41] <Elystus> dtsnell: I am guessing a process was still runing in the background?
#1889 [16:41] <lutzee> That is quite odd, i run kaspersky with no issues
#1890 [16:41] <Ethan> ok.well on the paid version i still have no clue what to do about not being able to play it
#1891 [16:41] <Elystus> lutzee: Some people have issues with it and some don't. Same with AVG.
#1892 [16:42] <dtsnell> I set minecraft as a trusted app and it still blocks it, very annoying, yes I have run kaspersky for about 2 years with no issues untill recently
#1893 [16:42] <Elystus> Ethan, can you make a video of you trying to play minecraft. I might be able to help more if I can see exactly what is happening.
#1894 [16:42] <Ethan> yea, how will you see the video?
#1895 [16:43] <Elystus> Lets just do teamviewer
#1896 [16:43] <Elystus> ??> Ethan teamviewer
#1897 [16:43] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1898 [16:43] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1899 [16:43] <dtsnell> thanks for your help guys
#1900 [16:43] <Elystus> Cya dtsnell.
#1901 [16:44] <Djuulsh> Elystus: i can't change that e-mail i've made my minecraft account on..? is that correct
#1902 [16:44] <Ethan> well i dont think ill do that. ill just tell you EXACTLY whats happening. so i click in browser, the java bar laods and then the box you play minecraft in turns white. that is it
#1903 [16:45] <Elystus> Djuulsh: If you do not have access to it, you will have to email Mojang. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#1904 [16:46] <Elystus> Ethan: Download this:https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1905 [16:46] <Elystus> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1906 [16:46] <Elystus> Then run it. It is the minecraft client.
#1907 [16:46] <Djuulsh> i do.. but, since i've changed my mail, since my creation of the account..?
#1908 [16:46] <Elystus> Tell me what happens.
#1909 [16:47] <Ethan> when i logged in that the screen just turned black.
#1910 [16:47] <Djuulsh> i'll try that link out. thanks
#1911 [16:47] <Elystus> Djuulsh: Migrate your account. After migrating your account, you should have an option to change the email linked to that account on account.mojang.com
#1912 [16:47] <Elystus> Ethan: Now that we have the client. We can try to get an error report.
#1913 [16:48] <Djuulsh> Elystus: ohh i think i got it now. thanks :)
#1914 [16:48] <Ethan> well my screen is black on that link so what do i do now?
#1915 [16:48] <Elystus> Ethan: that link was not for you.
#1916 [16:48] <Djuulsh> Elystus: yup, that works :) thank you so much :D
#1917 [16:48] <Elystus> Oh wait.. nvm
#1918 [16:48] <Elystus> Djuulsh: Glab I can help
#1919 [16:48] <Elystus> Ethan: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash follow the directions for creating an error report for the client.
#1920 [16:52] <Ethan> i did step 3 and when i poened the file it closed right back down
#1921 [16:53] <Ethan> method 2 sorry
#1922 [16:53] <Elystus> Do method 1
#1923 [16:54] <Elystus> Disk and I redid this page, however we forgot to mention that method 1 is the best for windows 7
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#1925 [16:54] <Ethan> how do i send the report to you?
#1926 [16:54] <Elystus> ??> Ethan Pastebin
#1927 [16:54] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1928 [16:56] <Ethan> it wont let me paste it
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#1930 [16:56] <spacekiller666> i have been playing minecraft ok but now as it loads and the java circle is going the screen suddenly goes white and it doesn't come on. i have taken the java back to java 6 but it's still the same. do you know what is likely to be wrong?
#1931 [16:56] <Elystus> ctrl + c and ctrl + v
#1932 [16:57] <Elystus> I have to go.
#1933 [16:57] <Elystus> :/
#1934 [16:57] <jimorrio> im following minecraft wiki instuctions on how to put a mod on minecraft but it just says copy the classes in this folder were do i put the classes
#1935 [16:58] <BP|Class> jimorrio: You have to open the minecraft.jar file using Winrar or 7zip
#1936 [16:58] <jimorrio> did that
#1937 [16:58] <BP|Class> Then you should just put them in the base folder with all the other classes
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#1939 [16:59] <jimorrio> okay
#1940 [16:59] <trollface1100> can i change my minecraft username
#1941 [16:59] <xales> trollface1100: Not without buying a new account, no.
#1942 [16:59] <trollface1100> ?
#1943 [16:59] <Ethan> screw it. i quit trying. minecraft, you suck
#1944 [17:00] <Ethan> spacekilla, i have the EXACT sameproblem
#1945 [17:00] <Ethan> <spacekiller666> EXACT same problem\
#1946 [17:00] <jimorrio> were is the base folder
#1947 [17:00] <xales> Ethan: Download the game, don't run it in your browser. :p
#1948 [17:00] <xales> spacekiller666: ^
#1949 [17:01] <BP|Class> When you open the Minecraft.jar in winrar or 7zip it will be the first folder to show up.
#1950 [17:01] <xales> jimorrio: Place the files in minecraft.jar. Beyond that, we generally do not assist with modding here, you'll have to find assistance elsewhere. There are many guides/tutorials around the Internet.
#1951 [17:01] <Ethan> xales, i did and got a black screen
#1952 [17:02] <xales> Ethan: Did you "Force Update"?
#1953 [17:02] <Ethan> yes
#1954 [17:02] <xales> Windows, Mac, other?
#1955 [17:02] <Ethan> windows is what i ahve
#1956 [17:02] <Ethan> have
#1957 [17:02] <xales> Has Minecraft worked before?
#1958 [17:03] <Ethan> it has once before, but i was very laggy and now it doesnt work at all.
#1959 [17:04] <xales> ??> Ethan win/dxdiag
#1960 [17:04] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1961 [17:04] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1962 [17:04] <VoxelHead> Ethan: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1964 [17:06] <Ethan> what does it save under?
#1965 [17:06] <xales> It opened a dialog box asking you where to save it.
#1966 [17:06] <xales> it saved wherever you chose to save it.
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#1969 [17:08] <Ethan> http://pastebin.com/E22Q0KGh
#1970 [17:08] <Ethan> there you go xales
#1971 [17:08] <Ethan> there you go xales
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#1973 [17:10] <Ethan> whats wrong with it?
#1974 [17:11] <jimorrio> is it okay to get someone on skype so that i can screen share for a few
#1975 [17:11] <jimorrio> im getting confused
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#1977 [17:11] <xales> Ethan: Please download and install this: http://downloads.dell.com/video/Intel_Graphics-Controller_A01_R301323.exe
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#1979 [17:12] <xales> jimorrio: Again, we don't really help with modding here. You can ask somewhere that does, such as #risucraft or try finding a tutorial/guide somewhere on the Internet.
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#1981 [17:14] <Ethan> alright. its downloading. will that link make it work?
#1982 [17:15] <Ethan> xales, will that link make it work?
#1983 [17:15] <xales> Ethan: It might, I don't know.
#1984 [17:15] <Ethan> how do you not know. arent you an expert?
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#1986 [17:16] <xales> Ethan: Uh, yes, I majored in "Fixing Minecraft" at CalTech.
#1987 [17:16] <xales> Ethan: However, if you want a real answer:
#1988 [17:17] <xales> Your computer has an Intel HD Graphics controller, which is better known as a piece of garbage.
#1989 [17:17] <clarjon1> heh.
#1990 [17:17] <clarjon1> yup.
#1991 [17:17] <xales> This family of products is generally not capable of running Minecraft, at least not very well. Sometimes, not at all.
#1992 [17:17] <xales> Or, any other modern games, for that matter.
#1993 [17:18] <xales> The program on your computer that tells it how to talk to this device is not the latest version.
#1994 [17:18] <xales> What you are doing is updating that program.
#1995 [17:18] <xales> Will that fix it? Possibly.
#1996 [17:18] <xales> Is that even the problem? Possibly.
#1997 [17:18] <xales> With the information I have, it isn't possible to know.
#1998 [17:18] <Ethan> alright. would buying a nicer graphics card fix it?
#1999 [17:19] <rymate1234> Ethan, yes if you can fit it in
#2000 [17:20] <clarjon1> Ethan: Is this a desktop or laptop
#2001 [17:20] <Ethan> desktop
#2002 [17:20] <zack6849> 0.0
#2003 [17:20] <zack6849> a desktop with integrated garbage?
#2004 [17:20] <zack6849> D:
#2005 [17:21] <Ethan> xales, its a desktop
#2006 [17:21] <xales> Ethan: I'm aware
#2007 [17:21] <Ethan> well can i get a new graphics card for it?
#2008 [17:22] <xales> You can do whatever you want.
#2009 [17:22] <xales> If you get a graphics card that fits, sure.
#2010 [17:22] <xales> Is that the problem? Again, I can't say for sure.
#2011 [17:22] <xales> However, Minecraft would certainly run better with a discrete card.
#2012 [17:23] <Ethan> xales, you are a genuis. i love you
#2013 [17:23] <xales> lol. Thanks :p
#2014 [17:24] <Ethan> keep doin what you do best. can i recommend you somehow?
#2015 [17:25] <xales> Nope. We are community-run, volunteer support.
#2016 [17:25] <xales> However, that will be $20.
#2017 [17:25] <xales> Plus shipping and "processing."
#2018 [17:25] <xales> (:
#2019 [17:26] <xales> (Not really.)
#2020 [17:26] <xales> (Not really.)
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#2023 [17:28] <xxdemon102xx> why cant i login to my account? i can on the homepage. but not in game it just says ''log in failed''
#2024 [17:28] <Ethan> haha. your a comedian xales.. so is there any chance we could ever play minecraft together, once my starts working again
#2025 [17:28] <Ethan> ?
#2026 [17:28] <xxdemon102xx> ??
#2027 [17:29] <Ethan> xales: got any youtube videos?
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#2029 [17:30] <xales> Ethan: Probably not, I don't play Minecraft very frequently any more. Nope, no Youtube videos.
#2030 [17:31] <Ethan> oh. alright man. well thank you so much fr your help. ill see ya later bro. peacee :D
#2031 [17:31] <xales> o/
#2032 [17:33] <Ethan> so did that thing basically just update my graphics?
#2033 [17:34] <xales> yep
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#2038 [17:50] <Guest14907> need help with taile of kingdom mod
#2039 [17:50] <zack6849> this channel isnt for mods
#2040 [17:51] <zack6849> go to the official channel for that mod or maybe the forum for it
#2041 [17:51] <Guest14907> ok
#2042 [17:51] <Guest14907> ok
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#2048 [18:54] <westinator> poopies
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#2050 [19:01] <DreKold> I Have called Xbox Support because I have a problem that has developed with minecraft. The problem is that the right anolog stick on all three of my Xbox 360 Controllers does not work only in my Gamertag and they do work in both of my childrens Gamertags. This only affects minecraft because we tested my gamertag with Black-Ops on all three controllers and it works. Please can you help Xbox Support has given me this website beca
#2051 [19:01] <DreKold> your website.
#2052 [19:03] <Morrolan> Only very few people in here have ever used the Xbox version, and I don't know of someone who is really familiar with the Xbox version of Minecraft.
#2053 [19:03] <Morrolan> I can only advise you to contact the studio which was responsible for the development of the Xbobx version, let me get their website for you.
#2054 [19:04] <DreKold> Ok.. Thank You!
#2055 [19:04] <Morrolan> http://www.4jstudios.com/ -> Contact -> There is an email address listed there, enquiries@4jstudios.com .
#2056 [19:04] <Morrolan> With a bit of luck they will be able to assist you.
#2057 [19:05] <Morrolan> Ofcourse, feel free to stick around in here, maybe someone will come by who has an idea. :)
#2058 [19:05] <DreKold> Do you have a phone number for them or mojang?
#2059 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> Mojang didn't actually create the xbox version - that was made by some other company
#2060 [19:06] <Morrolan> I can only offer you the information I find online, so no.
#2061 [19:07] <Morrolan> According to http://www.giantbomb.com/4j-studios/65-3126/ their phone numbre is 44 (0)1382 341027 , but no guarantee of that one being correct.
#2062 [19:07] <DreKold> Was the company that made the Xbox 360 version 4jstudios?
#2063 [19:07] <Morrolan> Yep.
#2064 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> For that to come to be, do you think Notch had befriended someone in that particuar business? They, of all people, got to rebuild MC
#2065 [19:09] <Morrolan> I assume they are just said to be experienced at porting PC games to the Xbox.
#2066 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> Maybe 4jstudios are more established then I realise
#2067 [19:09] <Morrolan> After all they seemingly ported TES Oblivion.
#2068 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, fair enough
#2069 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> Ah, done some big titles before, wakata
#2070 [19:10] <Morrolan> I only know two of the titles listed in their Portfolio, but those two are what you'd call AAA titles, yea.
#2071 [19:10] <DreKold> NinjaKirby have you heard anything about my issue before?
#2072 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> basically Microsoft paid big money to Mojang for exclusive rights to the xbox-only version
#2073 [19:11] <NinjaKirby> DreKold: No sorry :/
#2074 [19:12] <DreKold> NinjaKirby How much do you know about MC and Notch? (the Creator)
#2075 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> Erm, never been a Notch fanatic like some
#2076 [19:13] <NinjaKirby> Just a casual, albeit slightly addicted MC player, like many
#2077 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> I kinda "gone off him" per say ever since the post-minecon twitter incident as well
#2078 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> He's just a regular dude.
#2079 [19:15] <NinjaKirby> We are all regular dude's.
#2080 [19:17] <NinjaKirby> Amazing how we build people up in our minds, especially on the Internet. Some of my favourite people online and plain and simple like me.
#2081 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> But all you have to go on is personality and the sound of their voice, on YouTubes, the mind takes care of the rest.
#2082 [19:18] <NinjaKirby> *Are plain, jeez
#2083 [19:23] <Morrolan> NinjaKirby - Twitter incident?
#2084 [19:24] <Morrolan> Only incident-ish thing I remember is him complaining about some Let's-Play guys being rude.
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#2086 [19:25] <NinjaKirby> Hmm, I have screenshots somewhere; it involved false-stories being spoke of about Simon & Lewis treating a few kids rather rudely, ruining there Notch autographed goods or something.
#2087 [19:26] <NinjaKirby> It's like the moment he heard them, he just went crazy on Twitter, bit of name calling if memory serves aimed at S&L
#2088 [19:26] <Morrolan> Ah, then we do remember the same incident.
#2089 [19:26] <Morrolan> Though it seems we've heard different POVs of that story.
#2090 [19:26] <Morrolan> To be honest I didn't bother checking any facts, considering I can't stand the Yogscast. ;D
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#2092 [19:27] <NinjaKirby> ^^;; I don't watch them religiously anymore, but I still like most of there stuff.
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#2095 [19:33] <HelpMeOut> Hi, I need help starting a server with the .jar file. I downloaded the latest minecraft snapshot and it comes only in the .jar version. Is there any place I can download the snapshot in the .exe format?
#2096 [19:34] <Morrolan> The .exe is simply a wrapper around the .jar.
#2097 [19:34] <Morrolan> There's no reason not to use the .jar.
#2098 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> There isn't. You can start the .jar with java -jar minecraft-server.jar
#2099 [19:34] <HelpMeOut> Then how do I start the server using the .jar
#2100 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> Fuller instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server#Start_the_Minecraft_Server_.28.jar_version.29
#2101 [19:36] <HelpMeOut> Does not work
#2102 [19:37] <HelpMeOut> I see the black window open up, ton of text scrolls down super fast and then closes, I don't have time to read anything
#2103 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> Do it from the command prompt, in the directory that contains the .jar file, and the information will remain
#2104 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> You can the right-click on the window, select all, press Enter to copy, and paste it to somewhere like pastebin
#2105 [19:39] <zack6849> helpme
#2106 [19:39] <zack6849> open the batch fle
#2107 [19:39] <zack6849> and at the very end
#2108 [19:39] <Morrolan> No batch file.
#2109 [19:39] <zack6849> add the line "pause"
#2110 [19:39] <Morrolan> He's just got the .jar at the moment. ;)
#2111 [19:39] <zack6849> oh wow
#2112 [19:39] <zack6849> xD
#2113 [19:40] <zack6849> ill let yoyu handle it
#2114 [19:40] <zack6849> if im needed ping me :P
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#2116 [19:45] <HelpMeOut> Shouldn't I be able to right click on the .jar, open with, then Java(TM) Platform SE Binary ???
#2117 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> That's not normally a good idea, because you cannot then adjust how much memory is dedicated to the server
#2118 [19:47] <HelpMeOut> It doesn't even do anything when I do what I said
#2119 [19:47] <HelpMeOut> I would LOVE a server that I can't adjust any settings. Now I just don't get anything at all.
#2120 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> right-click on the server .jar file and create a shortcut, then go back to the shortcut properties and change them to java -Xms512M -Xmx1G -jar minecraft_server.jar
#2121 [19:51] <HelpMeOut> I change the target? I add that line at the end? What do you mean by "change them"
#2122 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> Yes, you edit the target
#2123 [19:52] <HelpMeOut> I add the line at the end, after the " ?
#2124 [19:52] <DiskDaemon> You replace the existing contents of the target
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#2126 [19:54] <HelpMeOut> If I replace all the content in the Target location to "-Xms512M -Xmx1G -jar minecraft_server.jar" it says the path is not valid
#2127 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> When you go back to the shortcut properties, does it have a path in there for java?
#2128 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> If not, you can add one in for it
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#2130 [19:55] <HelpMeOut> I created a shortcut from the minecraft_server.jar in the same folder, so the path leads to that same folder
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#2132 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> The path is for java, not the .jar file
#2133 [19:57] <HelpMeOut> "right-click on the server .jar file and create a shortcut" did you mean "minecraft_server.jar"
#2134 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> Because your computer doesn't know how to find java, try using this for it instead: %ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java
#2135 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> Yes, I meant the .jar file.
#2136 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> If it's not found in %ProgramFiles% then try %ProgramFiles(x86)% instead
#2137 [19:58] <HelpMeOut> I knew that, at least -.-
#2138 [20:00] <HelpMeOut> javaw.exe or javaws.exe ?
#2139 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> java is the best one to use initially when testing
#2140 [20:02] <HelpMeOut> Same thing as earlier, cmd promp pops up and closes
#2141 [20:02] <DiskDaemon> Let's find out where your java currently is then. Go to your program files folder and see if ther is a java folder in there
#2142 [20:02] <HelpMeOut> Yes its all there
#2143 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> In that java folder, what folders are there?
#2144 [20:03] <HelpMeOut> jre7 and jre6
#2145 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so open a command prompt and type in this, for testing: "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" -version
#2146 [20:05] <HelpMeOut> why the %
#2147 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> HelpMeOut: Can we confirm that that works?
#2148 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> It's for greater compatibility
#2149 [20:06] <DiskDaemon> HelpMeOut: Can we confirm that that works?
#2150 [20:06] <HelpMeOut> sec
#2151 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> HelpMeOut: Keep it in this channel please
#2152 [20:09] <HelpMeOut> ok
#2153 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> You don't want your private messages to me being lost in #porncraft, or whichever other channel I'm looking at
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#2156 [20:23] <bbaker> I placed the order yesterday. I have an order # but have not received the receipt regarding the transaction yet. I want to play what is up?
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#2158 [20:23] <Morrolan> Quoting http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status- : If after 3-5 days (usually only a few hours) you have only received a 32 character reference number, and not a transaction ID from Paypal or Moneybookers, it is unlikely that the transaction was successful. Please double check your bank account to verify if you were charged.
#2159 [20:24] <Morrolan> If you weren't charged I'd advise you to try and buy again.
#2160 [20:24] <bbaker> thanks we will look for paypal or moenybooker
#2161 [20:24] <Morrolan> If you're using a credit card then you might have to call your credit card provider and ask them to unlock it for international trasnfers. (Especially prepaid credit cards tend to get blocked)
#2162 [20:24] <Morrolan> Oh, and us-based giftcards can, since recently, not be used for international transfers at all it seems.
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#2165 [20:32] <bbaker> i didnt get it a message from paypal can you sented another one
#2166 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here works for Mojang, and Mojang is not involved with the payment part of the process.
#2167 [20:35] <bbaker> for minecraft i didnt get the message and was wondering if you can sent another please
#2168 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> bbaker: We are all community volunteers here who are not associated with Mojang
#2169 [20:36] <bbaker> ok thanks
#2170 [20:37] <DiskDaemon> bbaker: Having said that, we can help to advise on steps that you can take to help improve your situation
#2171 [20:40] <bbaker> do you think they work yesterday of the holiday
#2172 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> Yesterday, being Thursday the 5th?
#2173 [20:41] <bbaker> no july 4th
#2174 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> If you mean the 4th, I believe that that's a holiday that's primarily celebrated only in America, and not in other countries like Sweden where Mojang is based.
#2175 [20:42] <Rikairchy> UK calls it "getting rid of that one place day"
#2176 [20:42] <bbaker> uk is mean then
#2177 [20:45] <bbaker> sorry about that it was my son it didnt help but thanks
#2178 [20:45] <bbaker> sorry about that it was my son it didnt help but thanks
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#2180 [20:47] <Devin> |08:41:50|� <bbaker> uk is mean then; lol'd
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#2183 [20:54] <Desath> How long do I have to activate my character (for regsiteration) before someone else can have that username because i entered the wrong email address/made a mistake and im waiting for my name to be avalible again
#2184 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> Desath: Presently, accounts never expire.
#2185 [20:55] <Desath> Does that mean i need a new name?
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#2187 [20:56] <Desath> Does that mean i need a new name?
#2188 [20:56] <DiskDaemon> Yes. If you want a different username, you need to purchase a different account.
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#2190 [21:04] <Morrolan> Alternatively you could contact Mojang, and wait the two months it takes them to answer.
#2191 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> That's no exaggeration either - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#2192 [21:06] <Morrolan> 'night. :)
#2193 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> As of yesterday, they were up to emails from May 2
#2194 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> g'night
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#2196 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> Actually, Jul 06 02:23AM CEST was less than an hour ago
#2197 [21:09] <Elystus> o/
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#2200 [21:34] <Elystus> Marc o/
#2201 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Thanks for updating the email response time page
#2202 [21:35] <Marc_IRL> no problem
#2203 [21:35] <Marc_IRL> Sorry we've lost some ground :-/
#2204 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> I see that the system requirements page has information that differs from what's on the wiki.
#2205 [21:35] <Elystus> Disk: Do you know if the Ethan guy got his problem fixed?
#2206 [21:35] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I just haven't checked the wiki for an update recently. I'll look at it now.
#2207 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> For example, minimum memory is 256 meg on the mojang page, and 1 gig on the wiki page
#2208 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, I can't recall about Ethan at this stage
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#2210 [21:36] <Elystus> They also changed the minimum requirements for gpu and opengl
#2211 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> Is it that the 256 meg on the Mojang page refers to the graphics card memory instead?
#2212 [21:38] <Marc_IRL> I dunno, I've just copied the system requirements. I don't actually know what they are :-/
#2213 [21:38] <puffrfish> Elystus: kinda sorta not really
#2214 [21:38] <Marc_IRL> I asked Jens about it, but didn't get a solid answer. The other issue is that they keep tweaking the game.
#2215 [21:39] <DiskDaemon> It might be good to have some official input on that then. We get such a lot of people here trying to push ancient machines uphill.
#2216 [21:39] <Marc_IRL> I tried
#2217 [21:40] <DiskDaemon> People with 128 graphics memory for example, which has absolutely no chance at all of running Minecraft no matter how much they update their graphics drivers :)
#2218 [21:40] <Marc_IRL> He did mention that Minecraft doesn't run great on 32 bit Java. But am I correct that you can't run a 64 bit Java on a machine that doesn't have a 64 bit OS?
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#2220 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> correct. Running 32-bit java on a 64-bit OS can cause some issues though, which we haven't come to a full understanding of yet
#2221 [21:42] <Marc_IRL> Basically, run the java version of the OS that you have. But getting a 64 bit system that doesn't suck is optimal :p
#2222 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> There's a problem there though.
#2223 [21:42] <Marc_IRL> I noticed my minecraft performance increase once I got a $2,500 computer :p
#2224 [21:42] <Marc_IRL> Unfortunately, some people are going to buy it and never look at the specs
#2225 [21:42] <Elystus> Marc: What gets a lot of people is that when they go to the java website, with a 32-bit browser, it will automatically defaults to 32 bit java.
#2226 [21:43] <Marc_IRL> Then I run into refunds issues. I think Demo Mode will solve some of those problems
#2227 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> People running Firefox or other non-Internet Explorer web browsers who do the auto install Java thing, are given the 32-bit version instead if their web browser is the 32-bit version
#2228 [21:43] <Marc_IRL> Because Sun detects your browser, rather than your OS?
#2229 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> yep
#2230 [21:43] <Elystus> So they install 32 bit java on a 64 bit system. Something about this seems to mess up the java paths or something .
#2231 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> It's one of the common issues that we see in here
#2232 [21:43] <Elystus> Trying to figure out what exactly happens though.
#2233 [21:44] <Elystus> Disk: I was going to mess around when I get my new comp. Install 32 bit first and see if that will cause issues.
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#2235 [21:44] <Elystus> If it does, I will try to locate the issue.
#2236 [21:44] <DiskDaemon> great idea
#2237 [21:44] <Parhe> I was just um wondering
#2238 [21:44] <Elystus> Yes :)
#2239 [21:44] <Parhe> what exactly is the difference between a server that is offline and on line
#2240 [21:45] <Parhe> I tried googling and though it seems helpful i still dont really understand
#2241 [21:45] <Elystus> When a server is offline it does not verify usernames against the minecraft session servers.
#2242 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> An offline server doesn't check with Mojang about the account name/password
#2243 [21:45] <Marc_IRL> ok, well I'm just gonna update the help site to the newest version of whatever is on the wiki, since I can't get an official answer. A crowdsourced answer is actually probably better anyway.
#2244 [21:45] <Parhe> oh ok I think
#2245 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> Okay. Can you try to also get some info on the GPU memory situation
#2246 [21:46] <Elystus> Marc: Disc and I have started working on gathering information for a technical support thread. Hopefully we can get that done soon and break it up into articles.
#2247 [21:46] <Elystus> And get give you guys some technical support articles to put up.
#2248 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> This page has been filling up with useful info, for example. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting
#2249 [21:46] <Marc_IRL> sweet
#2250 [21:46] <Marc_IRL> That'd be super helpful
#2251 [21:46] <Elystus> Then I will take that information and make it idiot proof.
#2252 [21:46] <Parhe> what does it mean to verify usernames against the minecraft session servers. or check with Mojang about the account name/password
#2253 [21:47] <DiskDaemon> Tyey'll always just breed better class of idiots, but we can try
#2254 [21:47] <Elystus> Parhe: It checks to see if the account is legitimate.
#2255 [21:47] <Parhe> oh ok
#2256 [21:47] <Parhe> like registered and bought?
#2257 [21:47] <Elystus> Yes
#2258 [21:47] <Parhe> oh ok
#2259 [21:47] <Parhe> also whats a cracked server
#2260 [21:48] <Elystus> A server that allows people with cracked accounts to join.
#2261 [21:48] <Parhe> whats cracked accounts?
#2262 [21:48] <Parhe> just basically illegitimate?
#2263 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> indeed
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#2265 [21:49] <Parhe> so basically its similar as an offline server?
#2266 [21:49] <Elystus> Yea
#2267 [21:49] <Parhe> so a cracked server will never be online?
#2268 [21:49] <pandapipino> it can be online even if its cracked
#2269 [21:50] <Parhe> so it still will check to make sure it is legimate right?
#2270 [21:50] <Elystus> Disk: For the error report part, do you think it would be better to just give links to bat file downloads?
#2271 [21:50] <pandapipino> the server is not craacked itself its just in offline mode
#2272 [21:50] <soccerman280> my sons world that he has been working on for months is gone...gone gone.I have looked in the saved folder and it is not there. Is there anything we can do?
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#2274 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> revert to a backup?
#2275 [21:51] <Parhe> oh ok
#2276 [21:51] <pandapipino> the people who uses a cracked client are the ones pirating the game
#2277 [21:51] <Parhe> so basically cracked and offline are the same thing?
#2278 [21:51] <Parhe> oh
#2279 [21:51] <Parhe> okay
#2280 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> With no save game, and no backup, there is nothing else that can be done.
#2281 [21:52] <pandapipino> not really the same
#2282 [21:52] <soccerman280> will a system restore work?
#2283 [21:52] <pandapipino> offline mode is a feature added for lan games
#2284 [21:52] <pandapipino> not specifically for cracked client
#2285 [21:52] <Elystus> soccerman280: If there is one from before the incident, it should.
#2286 [21:52] <DiskDaemon> no, a system restore doesn't affect those files
#2287 [21:52] <Parhe> whats lan?
#2288 [21:52] <pandapipino> LAN = local area network
#2289 [21:53] <Elystus> Oh wait, system restores only affect core file don't they?
#2290 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#2291 [21:53] <soccerman280> is there a history of things like this?
#2292 [21:53] * Elystus derped
#2292 [21:53] <Parhe> um okay cool i think
#2293 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> soccerman280: If he deleted it by accident, it might still be in his recycle bin
#2294 [21:54] <soccerman280> that is the thing, there is nothing there...no where
#2295 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> Then it's gone. An important lesson to elarn is taht you can't get it back if you don't back it up.
#2296 [21:55] <soccerman280> he just found the stronghold...13 year old is pretty bummes
#2297 [21:55] <soccerman280> bummed
#2298 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> sorry we can't do any more to help with that
#2299 [21:56] <soccerman280> thanks gang
#2300 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> Could always find him a seed with a stronghold at known coordinates?
#2301 [21:56] <Marc_IRL> It's not the same as his world, but it might be better than nothing?
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#2303 [21:57] <Parhe> as a kid without any bank account or card would it be possible to purchase the game without my gaurdian knowing?
#2304 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> possibly via paypal
#2305 [21:57] <Scott> that isn't advisable.
#2306 [21:57] <Scott> Nope
#2307 [21:57] <Scott> You have to be 18 to use Paypal.
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#2309 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, that's right.
#2310 [21:57] <Parhe> ah, ok I think
#2311 [21:57] <Marc_IRL> Certain pre-paid gift cards, or a gift code from a friend. Not that I can condone things without parental permission, lol.
#2312 [21:59] <jedimasterval> when i try to sign in to my downloaded minecraft i put in everything in correctly but it still wont let me sign in, how do i fix that?
#2313 [21:59] <Scott> Mojang should get a deal with a convenience store chain selling gift code cards.
#2314 [21:59] <Elystus> Scott: very few users actually are put in that situation though.
#2315 [22:00] <Marc_IRL> I don't know that we have enough potential customers who haven't been able to buy the game for that reason, that would warrant such a large undertaking
#2316 [22:00] <Marc_IRL> Also, updated: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-to-play-minecraft-
#2317 [22:00] <Elystus> Marc: No gift codes should work from the us, correct?
#2318 [22:00] <Marc_IRL> Not sure what you mean.
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#2320 [22:01] <PUP_MAN> guys i have a problem
#2321 [22:01] <Elystus> Apparently there was a new law that was passed that restricts the use of gift codes on the international level.
#2322 [22:01] <Elystus> not giftcodes
#2323 [22:01] <ShaRose> law where
#2324 [22:01] <PUP_MAN> elystus can i have some help?
#2325 [22:01] <Elystus> >_> sorry, gift cards
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#2327 [22:01] <ShaRose> the US doesn't rule the world etc
#2328 [22:01] <Elystus> PUP_MAN: What do you need?
#2329 [22:01] <PUP_MAN> a error message
#2330 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> An example of gift card issues is that Visa gift cards in America are notorious for not being able to be used.
#2331 [22:01] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I'm unfamiliar with anything like that. Mojang gift codes work from anywhere. Gift cards, I dunno.
#2332 [22:02] <PUP_MAN> ill pastebin it
#2333 [22:02] <Elystus> ShaRose: I am not saying this, but it is a very common issue.
#2334 [22:02] <Scott> You can use those cards
#2335 [22:02] <Scott> You have to call customer service and verify your identity though.
#2336 [22:02] <PUP_MAN> how do i pastebin?
#2337 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> ??> PUP_MAN pastebin
#2338 [22:02] <Elystus> ?? pastebin
#2339 [22:02] <VoxelHead> PUP_MAN: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2340 [22:02] <Elystus> >_>
#2341 [22:02] <jedimasterval> i put my password and username in correctly but it still wont let me play
#2342 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> jedimasterval: What is your minecraft username?
#2343 [22:04] <jedimasterval> Val409
#2344 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> !check Val409
#2345 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> !paid Val409
#2346 [22:04] <zack6849> !check zack6849
#2347 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> !paid Val409
#2348 [22:04] <PUP_MAN> ok heres the link http://pastebin.com/wJJkDQs2
#2349 [22:04] <Marc_IRL> You have to sign in with your email address and password
#2350 [22:04] <zack6849> !paid zack6849
#2351 [22:04] <zack6849> :D
#2352 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> jedimasterval: Do you get the email when resetting your password?
#2353 [22:05] <jedimasterval> yes
#2354 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> How does your login go after resetting your password?
#2355 [22:06] <Marc_IRL> jedimasterval: Are you using your email and password to login?
#2356 [22:06] <Elystus> PUP_MAN: Have you ever been able to play?
#2357 [22:06] <PUP_MAN> yes
#2358 [22:06] <PUP_MAN> it just happened recently
#2359 [22:06] <Elystus> PUP_MAN: what changed recently?
#2360 [22:06] <ShaRose> PUP_MAN did you delete any files in your jar?
#2361 [22:06] <PUP_MAN> no i am on a air
#2362 [22:06] <jedimasterval> no im using my username
#2363 [22:06] <PUP_MAN> i dont know hwo to
#2364 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: The email/password only applies if his account is migrated? Do we know that?
#2365 [22:07] <Elystus> ??> PUP_MAN mac/reinst
#2366 [22:07] <VoxelHead> PUP_MAN: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2367 [22:07] <ShaRose> not sure if should lol or not
#2368 [22:07] <VoxelHead> PUP_MAN: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2369 [22:07] <Elystus> Try that.
#2370 [22:07] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Yeah, but I looked up his account :p
#2371 [22:07] <PUP_MAN> thanks
#2372 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> nice :)
#2373 [22:08] <Marc_IRL> jedimasterval: You need to use your email and password since it's been migrated. If you can't log in with that password, go to https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#2374 [22:08] <ShaRose> I still haven't been, and I cba to do so
#2375 [22:08] <ShaRose> ftw
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#2377 [22:13] <jedimasterval> it still doesnt work
#2378 [22:14] <zack6849> jedimasterval, what doesnt?
#2379 [22:14] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Can I have link to the logs with important onformation. I forgot t favorite it.
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#2381 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: This one here?
#2382 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Categories
#2383 [22:15] <Elystus> Thank you.
#2384 [22:15] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: What the best way for jedimasterval to ensure that his login details are correct?
#2385 [22:18] <Marc_IRL> by using the email he signed up with, and the password that he sets?
#2386 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> jedimasterval: What is the error message that you get when things don't work?
#2387 [22:19] <jedimasterval> can't connect to minecraft.net
#2388 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> Okay, that's something differnt from a login issue.
#2389 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> jedimasterval: Does the bottom part of the launcher have a black or a dirt background?
#2390 [22:20] <jedimasterval> black
#2391 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> jedimasterval: That's something we can help you with.
#2392 [22:21] <jedimasterval> thank you, what do i do?
#2393 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> jedimasterval: When your computer username has special character in it, or an exclamation mark at the end, that causes Minecraft to not be able to communicate with minecraft.net
#2394 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> ??> jedimasterval win/!
#2395 [22:21] <VoxelHead> jedimasterval: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#2396 [22:21] <VoxelHead> jedimasterval: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#2397 [22:22] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: The solution to that problem is to either create a new user (renaming doesn't work) or to move the minecraft files outside of the user area. In this case, that fix moves them to ProgramData instead.
#2398 [22:22] <Marc_IRL> Is this something that we can fix?
#2399 [22:22] <Marc_IRL> We as in Mojang/programmers/web devs
#2400 [22:23] <jedimasterval> thank you so much.
#2401 [22:23] <Elystus> Another exclamation mark?
#2402 [22:23] <zack6849> so many people do that....
#2403 [22:23] <Elystus> Sifting though all these logs is fun :/
#2404 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> It might be. An easy way to explore this, is to get someone to figure out why the bottom background of the launcher isn't dirt, but it black instead, when the computer username has an exclamation mark at its end, or special characters somewhere within it.
#2405 [22:23] <Elystus> Yea, I was going to include a small picture of that Disk
#2406 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> It can easily be solved, by having minecraft not store its files in the user's profile folder
#2407 [22:24] <Elystus> ^
#2408 [22:24] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: In fact, I'll get an error report for when that's the situation
#2409 [22:24] <zack6849> why not the c:/ dir
#2410 [22:24] <zack6849> or maybe a programfiles?
#2411 [22:24] <Elystus> GreyVulpine do you know mac fixes?
#2412 [22:24] <Elystus> I am guessing you do ;)
#2413 [22:24] <Marc_IRL> I hear it's a common problem. If anyone can put it to me in a clear and concise way, I'll forward it
#2414 [22:25] <zack6849> perhaps we should notify ojang of the issue?
#2415 [22:25] <zack6849> i mean i knowits not a huge one
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#2417 [22:25] <Elystus> zack6849: Marc is from Mojang
#2418 [22:25] <zack6849> but it IS a bug
#2419 [22:25] <zack6849> perhaps they woul-
#2420 [22:25] <zack6849> oops
#2421 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> When C:\Users\AccountName\ contains an exclamation mark at the end (C:\Users\AccountName!\) or special characters anywhere within it.
#2422 [22:25] <zack6849> thaks Elystus
#2423 [22:26] <zack6849> i was unaware xD
#2424 [22:26] <Elystus> Its fine :P
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#2426 [22:28] <zack6849> i wasnt aware mojang staff were ever in these irc's
#2427 [22:28] <ShaRose> DiskDaemon technically, that's a java bug :V
#2428 [22:28] <zack6849> i figured they just used twitter and whatnot
#2429 [22:28] <Elystus> zack: He is the only one that ever comes on
#2430 [22:28] <ShaRose> he's not?
#2431 [22:29] <zack6849> oh okay, im pretty sure if notch or jeb came on it would get a bit crazy
#2432 [22:29] <ShaRose> they wouldn't dare come here
#2433 [22:29] <zack6849> xD
#2434 [22:29] <zack6849> notch would have no reason
#2435 [22:29] <zack6849> seeing as jeb manages minecraft now, correct?
#2436 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: This is the Java error report from that ! or special character bug - http://pastebin.com/Mi2wrnvM
#2437 [22:30] <Marc_IRL> yes
#2438 [22:30] <ShaRose> Notch: Last seen : Mar 28 11:17:10 2012 (14 weeks, 1 day, 08:12:19 ago) Jeb: Last seen : May 11 06:04:58 2012 (7 weeks, 6 days, 13:24:54 ago)
#2439 [22:30] <GreyVulpine> jeb used to come on by #risuc and the #otherchannelwhichshouldnotbenameed
#2440 [22:30] <ShaRose> yeah
#2441 [22:31] <zack6849> whats risuc
#2442 [22:31] <zack6849> ?
#2443 [22:31] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Can you email me that, along with a brief summary of what's happening?
#2444 [22:31] <GreyVulpine> #risucraft, the modding channel
#2445 [22:31] <ShaRose> #Risucraft
#2446 [22:31] <ShaRose> DiskDaemon make sure you explain that it's a java issue :V
#2447 [22:31] <ShaRose> because it is
#2448 [22:32] <Elystus> Okay, Now that I have most of the error reports open, time to start typing .
#2449 [22:32] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I have full details about that at this page here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Can.27t_connect_to_minecraft.net.2C_with_the_lower_part_of_the_launcher_having_a_black_background
#2450 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> Will that do?
#2451 [22:33] <Marc_IRL> It might. The nicer it is to read the easier it will be to have someone look at it.
#2452 [22:34] * DiskDaemon goes for cuppa tea :)
#2452 [22:34] <ShaRose> "baw this error isn't pretty enough" is a really terrible reason to not read an error report
#2453 [22:35] <Elystus> marc: If that is not clear enough, I should get to that fix tonight. I could give you that part of the thread early.
#2454 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Apart from people who put exclamation marks at the end of their name, we commonly see people of Spanish origin, or others where they normally use special characters within their names (accented e, etc...)
#2455 [22:40] <Marc_IRL> damn the ~
#2456 [22:40] <Elystus> Disk: Do you have the log from the guy who was having the dns issues?
#2457 [22:40] <ShaRose> hm, that one is more interesting
#2458 [22:41] <ShaRose> the reason I could assume from the ! is that java uses that internally for if it's accessing a file inside of a zip or jar file for example
#2459 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> A log might still be in the records somewhere. Basically it's the ping command saying that session.minecraft.net isn't available. Was ther some other log being meant?
#2460 [22:41] <Elystus> Disk: nvm, found it.
#2461 [22:41] <ShaRose> like "C:\Users\Shawn\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar!/font.txt"
#2462 [22:43] <ShaRose> in any case, thinking about it they could probably sterilize them out
#2463 [22:43] <ShaRose> but it would be really annoying to do
#2464 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Can someone at Mojang please jump up and down on the f'n antivirus vendors who continually prevent Miencraft updates (and installations) from occurring?
#2465 [22:43] <ShaRose> DiskDaemon they do
#2466 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> That's nice to hear :)
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#2476 [23:12] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I was thinking that I should type this thread up on google docs, that way you can edit things that you see incorrect or unclear.
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#2478 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> yes, that seems to have potential
#2479 [23:15] <Elystus> Let me set that up quickly
#2480 [23:17] <Elystus> I restarted the thread when I got back from the doctors because I did not like it.
#2481 [23:17] <Elystus> Btw, this is the windows portion
#2482 [23:17] <Elystus> only
#2483 [23:17] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: What is your gmail
#2484 [23:20] <DiskDaemon> okay, i'll look at that in an hour or so when i don't have other people here taking up my time
#2485 [23:20] <Elystus> Okay, I will continue adding stuff.
#2486 [23:20] <Elystus> If you could pm me your email so that I can add you to the edit list.
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#2488 [23:21] <swartzy12345> Hello
#2489 [23:21] <swartzy12345> I need help
#2490 [23:21] <Elystus> Please state your issue/
#2491 [23:21] <swartzy12345> I just bought an account, and when I try to update the account it gives an error
#2492 [23:21] <swartzy12345> In the minecraft application
#2493 [23:22] <Elystus> swartzy12345: What is the error?
#2494 [23:22] <swartzy12345> Let me get it
#2495 [23:22] <Elystus> pastebin.com
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#2499 [23:26] <Zero87> I have been trying to purchase the game with a prepaid walmart money card. It fails every time. Do I need a different card for does prepaid notwork?
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#2501 [23:26] <mucus> if i am using spoutcraft, how do i put addons into it...?
#2502 [23:26] <mucus> do i use the spoutcraft launcher jar, or the minecraft jar?
#2503 [23:27] <Elystus> Zero87: Purchases in the United States do not work with gift cards. This is because of a law passed recently.
#2504 [23:27] <Elystus> Zero87: You can use a gift card to purchase internationally.
#2505 [23:28] <TheNoodle> You'll have difficulty modding the spout client mucus.
#2506 [23:28] <mucus> oh?
#2507 [23:29] <Zero87> Ah alright thank you for the info Elystus. I live in the stats and that explains it.
#2508 [23:35] <RBX_pawtracks|Away> Elystus: What law is that?
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#2510 [23:35] <Elystus> Let me try to find it. I cannot remember which exact law it is.
#2511 [23:36] <ROGUECOBRA> can anyone help me i am trying to join the minecraft formus but it says it can go through
#2512 [23:37] <Elystus> ROGUECOBRa: Go to #minecrafforums
#2513 [23:37] <Elystus> #minecraftforums
#2514 [23:37] <ROGUECOBRA> i did i tried to join so i can get help on my server but it wont let me make an account
#2515 [23:38] <Elystus> ROGUECOBRA: Join the irc channel #minecraftforums
#2516 [23:38] <Elystus> When you get there I can call an admin to come fix your issue.
#2517 [23:38] <RBX_pawtracks|Away> ROGUECOBRA: I might be able to help PM me. But next time visit #minecraftforums like Elystus said.
#2518 [23:38] <RBX_pawtracks|Away> ROGUECOBRA: I might be able to help PM me. But next time visit #minecraftforums like Elystus said.
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#2520 [23:39] <Elystus> RBX_pawtracks: You will not be able to.
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#2522 [23:39] <Elystus> It is probably an error from the registration system.
#2523 [23:39] <Basic> What's up?
#2524 [23:44] <Elystus> Basic: Curse auth error.
#2525 [23:45] <Basic> on MCF?
#2526 [23:45] <Elystus> Roguecobra got a curse auth. error when trying to create an account.
#2527 [23:45] <RBX_pawtracks> Elystus: The people on #minecraft have evil/disgusting humor.
#2528 [23:46] <RBX_pawtracks> <_<
#2529 [23:46] <Elystus> Thats why I am not there :P
#2530 [23:46] <RBX_pawtracks> xD
#2531 [23:46] <RBX_pawtracks> I got a warning from a op for telling them to grow up.
#2532 [23:46] <RBX_pawtracks> :/
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#2534 [23:47] <Elystus> Lol
#2535 [23:47] <Gabyldl> hello
#2536 [23:48] <Gabyldl> Just bought the game and having issues with trying to load the game
#2537 [23:48] <RBX_pawtracks> OpenGL Problems?
#2538 [23:48] <RBX_pawtracks> FPS?
#2539 [23:48] <Basic> Elystus: On MCF?
#2540 [23:48] <Gabyldl> you have to bare with me as I am not technical!!!!
#2541 [23:48] <Elystus> Basic: yea
#2542 [23:49] <Gabyldl> so not sure what they mean!
#2543 [23:49] <RBX_pawtracks> Gabyldl: No problem.
#2544 [23:49] <RBX_pawtracks> Gabyldl: I be more descriptive.
#2545 [23:49] <Gabyldl> so do you want me to replicate the issue
#2546 [23:49] <Gabyldl> ok
#2547 [23:49] <RBX_pawtracks> That would be grate.
#2548 [23:49] <RBX_pawtracks> great*
#2549 [23:50] <Gabyldl> so, I clicked on the link to load the game.
#2550 [23:50] <Gabyldl> entered my login & password, then it brings to a screen where it asks me to title and craete a new world
#2551 [23:50] <RBX_pawtracks> mhmm.
#2552 [23:50] <Gabyldl> once I click on "Create" it freezes on "Generating Level, Simulating the world for a bit."
#2553 [23:51] <RBX_pawtracks> Alright.
#2554 [23:51] <RBX_pawtracks> How much RAM do you have?
#2555 [23:51] <Gabyldl> so what do you suggest?
#2556 [23:51] <Gabyldl> 2GB
#2557 [23:51] <RBX_pawtracks> Nice.
#2558 [23:51] <Gabyldl> sucks!
#2559 [23:51] <RBX_pawtracks> So that can't be a problem.
#2560 [23:51] <Gabyldl> older 2006 notebook!
#2561 [23:51] <RBX_pawtracks> A notebook?
#2562 [23:52] <Gabyldl> yes
#2563 [23:52] <RBX_pawtracks> Minecraft dose not like my notebook either =p
#2564 [23:52] <Gabyldl> nice!
#2565 [23:52] <RBX_pawtracks> 2 GB of ram is plenty for Minecraft
#2566 [23:53] <RBX_pawtracks> What processor?
#2567 [23:53] <Gabyldl> from what i read, so why do you think that it freezes?
#2568 [23:53] <RBX_pawtracks> Netbooks do not usualy come with good processors for gaming.
#2569 [23:53] <Gabyldl> yes, but I have a notebook.
#2570 [23:54] <Gabyldl> it's a dual core intel processor.
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#2572 [23:54] <Gabyldl> old, but I believe it meets te specs
#2573 [23:54] <RBX_pawtracks> dual core..
#2574 [23:54] <RBX_pawtracks> nice
#2575 [23:54] <RBX_pawtracks> Gabyldl: I'm not quite sure.
#2576 [23:54] <RBX_pawtracks> Why it wont load.
#2577 [23:55] <Gabyldl> yeah, so that is a problem, and really bought the game for my son.
#2578 [23:55] <Gabyldl> ok, so how do I proceed with cancelling the transactiona and getting my money back?
#2579 [23:55] <Basic> Elystus: Where's Roguecobra?
#2580 [23:55] <Elystus> He left
#2581 [23:55] <Gabyldl> do I just send an e-mail to the company's Accounts Payable?
#2582 [23:56] <Basic> aw
#2583 [23:56] <RBX_pawtracks> Gabyldl: Let me see if someone else know how to get it working before you request a refund.
#2584 [23:56] <Basic> Elystus: Creating the account on Curse should work
#2585 [23:56] <Selcath> My computer suddenly won't play minecraft. After logging in and showing the updating page it goes to a white screen, then sky blue, then to a brown screen. Any suggestions?
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#2587 [23:57] <RBX_pawtracks> Elystus: Can you try to help Gabyldl? He can't get minecraft to create a new world. It freezes on simulateing world.
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#2589 [23:57] <Elystus> Give me a moment to look through the chat
#2590 [23:58] <Elystus> Gabyldl: Lets use the client, and generate a crash report.
#2591 [23:59] <slimer> So yah paypal failed and money booker did to. How do you purchase this game if nothing works? I live in the states as well so I know about the prepaid deal. I have attempted all three methods nothing is working.
#2592 [23:59] <Elystus> Gabyldl: What os?
#2593 [23:59] <Gabyldl> XP