#1 [00:00] <Elystus> Slimer: Are you using a gift code?
#2 [00:00] <Elystus> gift card*
#3 [00:00] <RBX_pawtracks> Gabyldl: Just to let you know XP is nearing end of support from microsoft. (Nothing to do with Minecraft)
#4 [00:00] <slimer> Nope.
#5 [00:00] <slimer> Nope.
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#7 [00:00] <Elystus> >_> I don't know why I keep saying gift code today.
#8 [00:00] <Gabyldl> yes, I know until 2014
#9 [00:00] <Elystus> Gabyldl: Download this: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#10 [00:00] <RBX_pawtracks> Just making sure.
#11 [00:01] <slimer> Normal credit card. My checking has more than enough to get it so I have no idea what is going on.
#12 [00:01] <RBX_pawtracks> Elystus: He already has it.
#13 [00:01] <Elystus> Slimer: Contact MOneybookers customer support and see if they can shed any light on the situation.
#14 [00:01] <Gabyldl> yes, this is the screen that I got initially, then entered my login and pass.
#15 [00:01] <Gabyldl> then once I'm in there, I choose "Single Player"
#16 [00:02] <Elystus> Gabyldl: So minecraft does not crash until you try to create a world?
#17 [00:02] <Gabyldl> yes, that is right
#18 [00:02] <Elystus> Is there an error report?
#19 [00:02] <Gabyldl> I choose create a new world, then title it and then click on "Create New World"
#20 [00:03] <Gabyldl> so I just did it and it stuck again on "Simulating the world for a bit."
#21 [00:03] <Gabyldl> no error report, just freezes
#22 [00:04] <Elystus> Okay follow the directions here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#23 [00:04] <Elystus> see if you can generate one.
#24 [00:05] <Selcath> My minecraft white screens after the loading screen.
#25 [00:07] <Gabyldl> way to technical for me. at this point, I thank you for your effort, but how do I proceed with getting a refund?
#26 [00:08] <Elystus> Gabyldl: there is no way to get a refund. However I can just give you the file and all you would need to do is run it.
#27 [00:09] <Gabyldl> what do you mean, no way. you guys just charged my credit card.
#28 [00:09] <Gabyldl> so you're tellling me that there is no refund policy at all?
#29 [00:09] <Elystus> Gabyldl: We are not from Mojang, we are volunteers. Mojang does not have a refund policy.
#30 [00:10] <Gabyldl> really, ok. I didn't read the fine print.
#31 [00:10] <Gabyldl> so what file do you want me to run?
#32 [00:10] <Elystus> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4o7nLoD7NnfYWMwbDF1UnJ6Zms
#33 [00:10] <Elystus> just run that and it should run minecraft
#34 [00:11] <Elystus> then upon crashing it will create a file named log.txt
#35 [00:14] <Gabyldl> so I click on the link, it opened up a web page
#36 [00:14] <Elystus> it should just say download, correct?
#37 [00:14] <Gabyldl> click on download and it opened up a DOS window
#38 [00:15] <Elystus> wut?
#39 [00:15] <Elystus> Oh, did you tell it just to run?
#40 [00:15] <Gabyldl> ok, let me try again.
#41 [00:16] <Elystus> You should just download it and place it where ever your minecraft launcher is. After you have done this, then run it.
#42 [00:16] <Gabyldl> again, it takes me to a URL
#43 [00:17] <Gabyldl> I see "Report.bat" then "file, edit, view, help" and in the middle I see, "no preview available - Download."
#44 [00:17] <RBX_pawtracks> Click Download
#45 [00:17] <Gabyldl> so I click on download and now I see "run"
#46 [00:17] <RBX_pawtracks> Save it
#47 [00:17] <RBX_pawtracks> don't run.
#48 [00:17] <Elystus> ^
#49 [00:17] <Gabyldl> ok
#50 [00:18] <Elystus> I need to get more sleep tonight... I am completely incompetent.
#51 [00:18] <RBX_pawtracks> Like Elystus said now move the report.bat to the same location as Minecraft.exe
#52 [00:18] <Gabyldl> alright, saved it and then I clicked on Run
#53 [00:18] <Elystus> Gabyldl: what happened?
#54 [00:19] <Elystus> Btw, you have to place the bat file in the same folder as your launcher.
#55 [00:19] <Gabyldl> ok
#56 [00:19] <Gabyldl> I'll try again!
#57 [00:19] <RBX_pawtracks> Thats the spirit!
#58 [00:19] <RBX_pawtracks> Lol
#59 [00:22] <RBX_pawtracks> I'm going to work on my site. If anybody needs me type RBX_ then press TAB
#60 [00:23] <Gabyldl> sorry, I'm unable to do it.
#61 [00:23] <RBX_pawtracks> Elystus: Should we use teamviewer?
#62 [00:23] <Gabyldl> not following when you say, "have to place the bat file in the same folder as your launcher"
#63 [00:24] <RBX_pawtracks> Elystus: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#64 [00:24] <Elystus> Gabyldl: The bat file (what you just downloaded) should be located in downloads
#65 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> Gabyldl: Do you know where your minecraft.exe file Miencraft launcher file is located?
#66 [00:24] <Gabyldl> no
#67 [00:24] <Gabyldl> wait, I think I clicked on Run the entire time and did not save it
#68 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> What do you click to start Minecraft?
#69 [00:25] <Gabyldl> ok, yes, it's on my desktop
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#71 [00:25] <DiskDaemon> Then the bat file also needs to go on your desktop
#72 [00:25] <RBX_pawtracks> Move report.bat to you'r desktop
#73 [00:25] <Gabyldl> a minecraft icon that I double click
#74 [00:25] <RBX_pawtracks> That's minecraft.exe
#75 [00:25] <Gabyldl> ok, so save it to my desktop?
#76 [00:25] <RBX_pawtracks> after you move report.bat to you'r desktop run it.
#77 [00:26] <Elystus> Disk: I am going to hand this to you. I am tired and slightly incompetent. I am actually going to go to bed right now.
#78 [00:26] <RBX_pawtracks> Goodnight Elystus
#79 [00:26] <DiskDaemon> Can someone catch me up on what issue RBX_pawtracks is having?
#80 [00:26] <Elystus> night next time you see me, I will be 17
#81 [00:26] <shimmus> im trying to use tha mod mo mobs and ores, but minecraft freezes at the loadout page. ive deleted the meta file, but it still wont't help.
#82 [00:26] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: okay, night there
#83 [00:26] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: okay, night there
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#85 [00:26] <RBX_pawtracks> DiskDaemon: I have no issue.
#86 [00:26] <Gabyldl> ok, so I saved it to my desktop
#87 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> shimmus mods
#88 [00:27] <VoxelHead> shimmus: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#89 [00:27] <VoxelHead> shimmus: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#90 [00:27] <Gabyldl> Minecraft has launched
#91 [00:27] <Gabyldl> do I proceed with trying to load the game?
#92 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> RBX_pawtracks: pardon - I meant Gabyldl
#93 [00:27] <RBX_pawtracks> Lol
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#95 [00:27] <Parhe> but Voxel
#96 [00:27] <Parhe> nothing is impossible
#97 [00:28] <Parhe> with enough determination and hard work anything is possible
#98 [00:28] <Gabyldl> anyone?
#99 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> There are human limitations that are not possibl to overcome
#100 [00:28] <Parhe> helps to throw in some fairy dust too
#101 [00:28] <RBX_pawtracks> Like flying.
#102 [00:28] <RBX_pawtracks> Owned.
#103 [00:28] <Parhe> read my last messga elol
#104 [00:28] <RBX_pawtracks> <_<
#105 [00:28] <RBX_pawtracks> I don't want to know....
#106 [00:28] <Parhe> isnt that what they did in peter pan to fly?
#107 [00:28] <Parhe> fairy dust?
#108 [00:29] <RBX_pawtracks> DiskDaemon: Should we help him with this? http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
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#110 [00:29] <DiskDaemon> RBX_pawtracks: You're welcome to - I don't do video support thanks due to where I am
#111 [00:29] <RBX_pawtracks> Not video support.
#112 [00:29] <RBX_pawtracks> =p
#113 [00:30] <RBX_pawtracks> Gabyldl: Alright, I got an idea to help you.
#114 [00:30] <DiskDaemon> Isn't teamviewer where a video-feed is used to see what's happening on the other machine?
#115 [00:30] <Altair> how can i change from creator mode into easy mode?
#116 [00:30] <RBX_pawtracks> DiskDaemon: Sort-off. Remote Control Support.
#117 [00:31] <DiskDaemon> RBX_pawtracks: Here in New Zealand we must pay for every byte of data that goes up and down to the internet. That is why I keep away from internet video as much as practical
#118 [00:31] <RBX_pawtracks> That's crazy :O
#119 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> That's how it is. Monopolies are great, aren't they?
#120 [00:33] <Gabyldl> alright, it's getting late, and got to go
#121 [00:33] <Gabyldl> I'll try again tomorrow.
#122 [00:34] <Altair> can anyone help me?
#123 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> sure, what with?
#124 [00:34] <Parhe> [23:30] <Altair> how can i change from creator mode into easy mode?
#125 [00:34] <Altair> exactly
#126 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> There are soe map editors that allow you to do that
#127 [00:34] <RBX_pawtracks> Gabyldl: I got an idea.
#128 [00:34] <RBX_pawtracks> If your willing to do it.
#129 [00:34] <RBX_pawtracks> It should be really quick.
#130 [00:35] <Altair> map editors?
#131 [00:35] <Gabyldl> tell me
#132 [00:35] <RBX_pawtracks> I can help get the error report by doing some remote support.
#133 [00:35] <Gabyldl> sure.
#134 [00:35] <RBX_pawtracks> Gabyldl: Download this
#135 [00:36] <RBX_pawtracks> and PM me what it says when you run it
#136 [00:36] <RBX_pawtracks> http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQJ_en.exe
#137 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> Altair: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Programs_and_editors/Mapping#Map_Editors
#138 [00:36] <RBX_pawtracks> With this I will be able to remotely get the error report.
#139 [00:36] <Altair> ty
#140 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> Altair: You can also use the TooManyItems mod, which has a C buttona t the top left of the screen to change too and from Creative mode
#141 [00:38] <Altair> how do i activate these?
#142 [00:38] <DiskDaemon> I don't understand the question
#143 [00:38] <Gabyldl> it didn't let me run it
#144 [00:38] <Gabyldl> it closed automatically
#145 [00:39] <RBX_pawtracks> I gave you wrong link
#146 [00:39] <RBX_pawtracks> Sorry =p
#147 [00:39] <RBX_pawtracks> Here
#148 [00:39] <RBX_pawtracks> http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewer_Host_Setup.exe
#149 [00:39] <RBX_pawtracks> Run that.
#150 [00:41] <Altair> how do i add the TooManyItems mod? where can i get it? and can it work on the free version of the game?
#151 [00:41] <Gabyldl> It brought me to "welcome to teamviewer 7 host"
#152 [00:41] <RBX_pawtracks> Good
#153 [00:41] <RBX_pawtracks> PM me what the you'r ID is.
#154 [00:41] <RBX_pawtracks> and what the ID password is.
#155 [00:41] <RBX_pawtracks> So I can remotely get the error report.
#156 [00:42] <Gabyldl> what ID?
#157 [00:42] <Gabyldl> login, you mean?
#158 [00:42] <RBX_pawtracks> Dose it look like this?
#159 [00:42] <RBX_pawtracks> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/res/img/screenshots/win_quicksupport.jpg
#160 [00:42] <GreyVulpine> Altair - Free version?
#161 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> TooManyItems is a mod for the premium version of minecraft
#162 [00:43] <Gabyldl> no it does not.
#163 [00:44] <RBX_pawtracks> I don't know then.
#164 [00:44] <RBX_pawtracks> I give up.
#165 [00:44] <RBX_pawtracks> Sorry.
#166 [00:44] <Altair> yeah, my friend gave me the file so we can play but now i havn't heard from him in a long time so i can't ask him
#167 [00:44] <Gabyldl> sorry...
#168 [00:44] <Gabyldl> thank you for your help.
#169 [00:44] <RBX_pawtracks> No problem/
#170 [00:44] <RBX_pawtracks> Wish I could have done better.
#171 [00:44] <RBX_pawtracks> I was getting so confused
#172 [00:45] <RBX_pawtracks> Im going to bed
#173 [00:45] <RBX_pawtracks> Later,
#174 [00:46] <Altair> grey?
#175 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> I do not help with people who pirated Minecraft.
#176 [00:47] <Altair> i didn't
#177 [00:47] <Altair> my friend did
#178 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Did you pay for minecraft?
#179 [00:47] <Altair> he did
#180 [00:47] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> omg
#181 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Did you
#182 [00:47] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> Altair. Piracy is ileagal
#183 [00:47] <Altair> I KNOW THAT!!!!
#184 [00:47] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> Good for you.
#185 [00:48] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> You admited to it
#186 [00:48] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> <_<
#187 [00:48] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> No one is going to help you.
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#189 [00:48] <Altair> problem is i can't afford to pay right now
#190 [00:48] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> Dosen't matter.
#191 [00:48] <Altair> i intend to pay asap
#192 [00:48] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> Dosen't matter.
#193 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> Don't expect any sympathy from here
#194 [00:49] <Altair> fine
#195 [00:49] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> I dont like pirates.
#196 [00:49] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> I was about to ask his for his friends username....
#197 [00:49] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> So I could contact Mojang.
#198 [00:49] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> <_<
#199 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> No need
#200 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> You politely, but firmly decline. No need to press the issue
#201 [00:50] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> :/
#202 [00:50] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> I hate pirates.
#203 [00:50] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> Well I like pirates but hate piracy pirates.
#204 [00:50] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> Know what i mean?
#205 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> people who infringe on copyright
#206 [00:51] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> Exactly
#207 [00:51] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> I don't like piracy pirates only pirates like the ones who sail
#208 [00:51] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> I'm going to bed.
#209 [00:51] <RBX_pawtracks|Offline> Goodnight.
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#237 [04:07] <AppleTiff> Hi
#238 [04:07] <AppleTiff> I Need help
#239 [04:08] <AppleTiff> my server say it running on the same port
#240 [04:08] <AppleTiff> when its not
#241 [04:08] <Calinou> AppleTiff, then you already started a server; did you leave the server-ip field blank?
#242 [04:08] <Calinou> in server.properties
#243 [04:08] <AppleTiff> yes i did
#244 [04:08] <AppleTiff> i didn started the server
#245 [04:08] <Calinou> what's your server-port in server.properties?
#246 [04:08] <AppleTiff> i only have 1 run bat ope
#247 [04:09] <AppleTiff> blank
#248 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> Also, check the task manager for any tasks caled java or javaw, and kill those\
#249 [04:09] <Calinou> -_-
#250 [04:09] <Calinou> it should be 25565 (the default minecraft port)
#251 [04:09] <AppleTiff> yes it is
#252 [04:09] <AppleTiff> but only i change the port it work
#253 [04:09] <AppleTiff> like 25566
#254 [04:09] <Calinou> I asked you your server-port, you said it was blank
#255 [04:09] <Calinou> oh
#256 [04:09] <AppleTiff> but i wanted 25565
#257 [04:09] <Calinou> check processes using task manager?
#258 [04:09] <AppleTiff> i am
#259 [04:09] <Calinou> what DiskDaemon said
#260 [04:09] <AppleTiff> on task manager
#261 [04:09] <AppleTiff> i tried that
#262 [04:10] <AppleTiff> it didn work
#263 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> Reboot the machine.
#264 [04:10] <AppleTiff> i did
#265 [04:10] <AppleTiff> too
#266 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> Use netstat to find out what is currently on port 25565
#267 [04:12] <AppleTiff> i think its YAMS
#268 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> Which is something outside of the Mojang range of software. http://yams.in/
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#271 [04:18] <Till_Dogs> I seem to be having a problem with playing Minecraft at the moment. Each time I open the game, log in then choose single player and my game after about 10 seconds it goes to the saving chunks screen and crashes. It happens every time and I have no idea why. Help?
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#273 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> Till_Dogs: Let's run it from the command prompt, so that we can get a crash report from the game
#274 [04:18] <gWork2002> Fixed my avast problem, fyi
#275 [04:19] <gWork2002> if anyone comes in here with avast saying "LOL MY PC R BROEK BECAUSE MC"
#276 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> Till_Dogs: Where is your minecraft launcher located?
#277 [04:19] <gWork2002> tell them to boot into safe mode and reinstall it
#278 [04:19] <gWork2002> (avast)
#279 [04:19] <Till_Dogs> I'm not sure what you're talkking about but I have a mac so I open it from the menu bar at the bottom of my screen
#280 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> Till_Dogs: It's okay, we can get a crash report for that too
#281 [04:20] <Till_Dogs> Sorry I'mok
#282 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> You're okay now?
#283 [04:20] <Till_Dogs> sorry* I'm not very good at computer talk
#284 [04:20] <Till_Dogs> no
#285 [04:21] <Till_Dogs> sorry
#286 [04:21] <Till_Dogs> chats gone funny
#287 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> Okay, follow these instructions for a crash report http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Mac_OSX
#288 [04:24] <Till_Dogs> It tells me to open mcpatcher but I'm not entirely sure where to find it
#289 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> Use the second method then
#290 [04:29] <Till_Dogs> ok so its telling me minecraft has crashed and it has an error report under it
#291 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Copy that error report and paste it to pastebin
#292 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> ??> Till_Dogs pastebin
#293 [04:29] <VoxelHead> Till_Dogs: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#294 [04:30] <gWork2002> Should really change that to pastie or something, now that pastebin has gone all MONEYMONEYMONEY on us..
#295 [04:31] <Till_Dogs> http://pastebin.com/sw9hBB4t
#296 [04:31] <Till_Dogs> that should be the url
#297 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> "Caused by: java.io.IOException: No space left on device"
#298 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, I haven't seen that one before, mac or otherwise. No space is pretty fundamental
#299 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> Till_Dogs: How much space do you have left on your hard drive?
#300 [04:34] <Till_Dogs> For some reason somethings been taking up all the space on my computer. I had 9gb space a week ago and from then its filled up and I'm not sure why
#301 [04:34] <Necrodoom> virus?
#302 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> Nah, a virus would be smarter than that
#303 [04:34] <Till_Dogs> I have no space apparently
#304 [04:34] <Calinou> logs?
#305 [04:34] <Calinou> :P
#306 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> This looks to be a good program to help find out. http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14393/disk-inventory-x/
#307 [04:35] <Till_Dogs> which is double weird cause I freed up 2 gb last night and all I've done today is play minecraft. I didnt realise it would take up that much space
#308 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> Minecraft doesn't take up much space at all.
#309 [04:35] <Till_Dogs> I didn't think so
#310 [04:36] <Till_Dogs> Unless its my iPhone back ups :/
#311 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> Instead of making assumptions, get some actual facts on the situation. That disk inventory program is a good one
#312 [04:36] <Till_Dogs> i didnt think it would take up too much space either
#313 [04:36] <Till_Dogs> ok
#314 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> It's called WinDirStat on windows machines
#315 [04:37] <Till_Dogs> I'm not sure I'd have space to download any programs though
#316 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> It's the only useful way. It's a tiny program, only 2.8 megs in size
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#319 [04:56] <weignadwood> hi everyone
#320 [04:56] <DiskDaemon> hi there
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#322 [04:57] <weignadwood> i read thats 1.3 mean you need internet connection for minecraft playing.. but can I play when I didn't have a connection? sometimes is my internet broken :/
#323 [04:57] <DiskDaemon> What you read is wrong.
#324 [04:58] <DiskDaemon> 1.3 does combine the single player in to the multiplayer code, however when playing single player maps you will be playing on your own local server.
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#326 [04:59] <weignadwood> ah ok thx for your'e description :)
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#328 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> You're welcome. Out of curiosity, where did you read that?
#329 [05:00] <LilLucy> DiskDaemon the snapshots have a form of lan hosting in the single player
#330 [05:00] <weignadwood> a dude dent me a message with this information ;) but now i know the truth ;)
#331 [05:00] <LilLucy> Though I think it was changed to be toggable
#332 [05:00] <LilLucy> One snapshot it did it regardless
#333 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> Yes, you can share your single player environment with your local network. That doesn't change the fact that you don't need to be online to play.
#334 [05:01] <LilLucy> ^
#335 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> What you do need to be online for, is to performyour first login with yout account on that computer, as proof that you own that user account. That's about it.
#336 [05:02] <LilLucy> http://i.imgur.com/cvlMD.png
#337 [05:02] <weignadwood> the dude sent in the message follow thing too: you're pc must be better as the moment..
#338 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> weignadwood: Once again, mistaken.
#339 [05:03] <weignadwood> the problem is I have only a Pentium 4 with 2,4 gigahertz and 1,5 gig ram
#340 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> See this page, where for 12w27a they say: "Performance improvements, including reduced CPU, RAM & bandwidth requirements." - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history/Development_versions
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#342 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> 12w27a is the latest pre-release snapshot of 1.3
#343 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> From yesterday.
#344 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> weignadwood: Is there anything else we can help you with?
#345 [05:05] <LilLucy> http://i.imgur.com/dtw4N.png
#346 [05:05] <weignadwood> thx very much for you're help :) at the moment i am happy :) thx ver much again
#347 [05:06] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#348 [05:07] <weignadwood> bye bye :)
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#357 [05:53] <Soanvolck> Hello gentlemen, I have this issue where the game loads but crashes when it's done loading.
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#361 [06:01] <Puppy> Is anyone there?
#362 [06:01] <gAwayWork2002> possibru
#363 [06:01] <Puppy> Im having some issues, with my minecraft
#364 [06:02] <gAwayWork2002> You should maybe state the issues?
#365 [06:02] <Puppy> I just recently updated to Java 7 and now minecraft wont open
#366 [06:03] <Puppy> Well, it opens but when i login it closes
#367 [06:03] <gAwayWork2002> OS?
#368 [06:03] <Puppy> Windows &
#369 [06:03] <Puppy> 7*
#370 [06:03] <gAwayWork2002> x86 or x64?
#371 [06:03] <gAwayWork2002> (32-bit or 64-bit)
#372 [06:03] <Puppy> x64 i believe
#373 [06:03] <gAwayWork2002> And the version of java you downloaded?
#374 [06:04] <Puppy> I think its 7, i just got an update notice so i updated
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#376 [06:04] <gAwayWork2002> Yes, but is it x86 or x64?
#377 [06:04] <gAwayWork2002> Have you tried installing the matching version from the site?
#378 [06:04] <Puppy> I'm not sure
#379 [06:04] <Puppy> How would i go about checking that
#380 [06:05] <gAwayWork2002> If you open the java control panel
#381 [06:05] <gAwayWork2002> you can list off your installs and pick the one you prefer
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#391 [06:57] <Red_M> hey anyone notice anything with joining a server?
#392 [06:57] <Red_M> mine says failed to verify username
#393 [06:58] <VoxelHead> Red_M - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#394 [06:58] <DAZZA1997Aus> I am using a mac updated to 10.6.8 and when i open the minecraft launcher and try to login with my premium account it says that it can't connect to minecraft.net.
#395 [06:58] <Red_M> ah
#396 [06:58] <Red_M> bugger
#397 [06:58] <Red_M> i need to do stuffs
#398 [06:58] <Red_M> wait
#399 [06:58] <Red_M> it was working 2 minutes ago
#400 [06:58] <Red_M> it was working 2 minutes ago
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#406 [07:32] <Cam_Dogz> my minecraft cant connect
#407 [07:32] <Cam_Dogz> i redownloaded it off minecraft.net
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#416 [08:08] <Resh> Hello everyone
#417 [08:08] <Andrio> Hi
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#419 [08:09] <shizzle44> Hello
#420 [08:10] <shizzle44> I'm Having Difficulties Logging into my Minecraft Account.
#421 [08:10] <shizzle44> I haven't Migrated or upgraded to premium
#422 [08:10] <shizzle44> and I'm un-sure of what's happening
#423 [08:11] <shizzle44> Hello?
#424 [08:11] <DiskDaemon> Do you get an error message?
#425 [08:11] <shizzle44> yes
#426 [08:11] <shizzle44> it says
#427 [08:11] <lemon-rev> shizzle44 so your not premium how are you playing the game then ?
#428 [08:11] <shizzle44> oh
#429 [08:11] <shizzle44> I didn't know that;'s what it meant
#430 [08:12] <shizzle44> OK. I am Premium I guess
#431 [08:12] <shizzle44> I have the full version
#432 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> It might help to talk about things that you know about.
#433 [08:12] <Resh> Well, here's my problem : when I launch Minecraft, I've got a warning saying "Bad video card drivers" and OpenGL seems to be the problem. All my drivers are up to date though... I don't really know what to do now. I tried to replace my OpenGL with another version in system32 but my version seems to be better :/ I would be very thankful if you could help!
#434 [08:12] <lemon-rev> shizzle44 back to DiskDaemon question yea
#435 [08:12] <shizzle44> Basicly
#436 [08:12] <shizzle44> I launch MC
#437 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> ??> Resh win/dxdiag
#438 [08:12] <VoxelHead> Resh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#439 [08:12] <shizzle44> and try to log in.
#440 [08:12] <VoxelHead> Resh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#441 [08:12] <Necrodoom> !haspaid shizzle44
#442 [08:12] <lemon-rev> besh are you n a laptop ?
#443 [08:13] <lemon-rev> DiskDaemon its always wise to ask what os there running :P
#444 [08:13] <Necrodoom> lemon-rev: system32
#445 [08:13] <lemon-rev> ok, fair enough
#446 [08:13] <Andrio> Necrodoom, I think it's !paid
#447 [08:13] <shizzle44> But when I try to login it says Login Failed Try Again/ Play Offline
#448 [08:13] <Necrodoom> !paid shizzle44
#449 [08:13] <DiskDaemon> It's ;haspaid and/or !paid
#450 [08:14] <shizzle44> should it work now?
#451 [08:14] <lemon-rev> shizzle44 ok, is your firewall turned on or off ?
#452 [08:14] <shizzle44> on
#453 [08:14] <Resh> lemon-rev Yes I am! And I don't know if you could understand these information, I'm on a french laptop :/
#454 [08:14] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: We are still to hear from you what the problem is. Details on the error messsage would be greatly useful.
#455 [08:14] <shizzle44> Alrighty
#456 [08:14] <shizzle44> Here's what happens
#457 [08:15] <shizzle44> I have a desktop shortcut for Minecraft and when I open it & login to Minecraft, It says Logging in... Login Failed
#458 [08:15] <lemon-rev> resh so your getting bad video drivers ? can you do a dxdiag for us
#459 [08:15] <DiskDaemon> Can you log in to the web site?
#460 [08:15] <shizzle44> nope
#461 [08:16] <Resh> lemon-rev Oh and I just try and play the free version on the internet ... That's okay, would you understand if it's in french?
#462 [08:16] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: When you reset your password, do you receive the email?
#463 [08:16] <shizzle44> It goes to my dads E-mail
#464 [08:16] <lemon-rev> resh no, if you goto minecraft.net < and login / then click on in broswer the game will either work or it will give you a black/ white screen
#465 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: Reset your password to something that you know, and then make sure that you can log in to the web site.
#466 [08:17] <shizzle44> OK.
#467 [08:17] <shizzle44> thanks
#468 [08:17] <shizzle44> I'll keep the tab open incase
#469 [08:17] <shizzle44> wait
#470 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: Mojang also have help for a changed email address http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#471 [08:17] <shizzle44> thanks
#472 [08:18] <Resh> lemon-rev May I PM you ?
#473 [08:18] <lemon-rev> if you feel better about it
#474 [08:19] <shizzle44> Erm... I can't seem to verify myself to the rights to my Mojang account
#475 [08:19] <shizzle44> It says Confirm your Identity
#476 [08:20] <shizzle44> I put in the answer to the question and my birthday & it says Error occured
#477 [08:20] <shizzle44> ah nevermind
#478 [08:21] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: Please feel free to look at other Account help that Mojang provide. Some of it might be more useful to you http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/topics/151510-account-troubleshooting-/articles
#479 [08:22] <shizzle44> I Can't remember my password. Where do I go to get it E-mailed to me?
#480 [08:22] <lemon-rev> ??< resh win/dxdiag
#481 [08:22] <lemon-rev> ??> resh win/dxdiag
#482 [08:22] <VoxelHead> resh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#483 [08:22] <VoxelHead> resh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#484 [08:23] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: Mojang don't store passwords. Instead they send you an email with a link that allows you to change your password to something else
#485 [08:23] <shizzle44> Ah. How do I get them to send me an E-mail regarding this?
#486 [08:24] <shizzle44> Oh, And it seems my Mojang account is set up to my E-mail
#487 [08:24] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: This article can help with that - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#488 [08:24] <shizzle44> Thank you
#489 [08:25] <shizzle44> Urgh
#490 [08:25] <shizzle44> My Broadband Provider is Making updates to their website, Thus preventing me from accessing my E-mail.
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#492 [08:26] <shizzle44> I'll have to wait
#493 [08:26] <DiskDaemon> you'll have to wait then
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#496 [08:29] <Steph> I have tried to log in to the Mojang site, only to be asked to "Confirm Identity" with my recently created Security Questions. I answer them, only to receive "An error occured. Please try again." Is it a site error or is it on my end?
#497 [08:30] <tyteen4a03> Steph: I think it sounds like a site error
#498 [08:30] <shizzle44> Diskdaemon ; I had a good Idea for 1.3 / 1.4 If you can pass it on to Jeb or Notch, Energy Bar. The Idea is that if you don't sleep enough, the bar will deplete and if it runs out completely, You'll fall asleep where you are.
#499 [08:30] <DiskDaemon> Steph: Good question. Nobody here are related to Mojang, we are community volunteers. We'll help in any way we can though
#500 [08:30] <Steph> Strange... Is there a way to Report the bug?
#501 [08:31] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: sounds interesting, but it's a better idea for a mod than an addition to the game
#502 [08:32] <shizzle44> Ok. Even though I have absolutely no Idea how to create or install mods. Have any articles on that?
#503 [08:32] <shizzle44> that'd be very helpful
#504 [08:33] <DiskDaemon> Before creating mods, it's important to know how to program in Java. Without that, you'll be constantly stuck begging people for help.
#505 [08:33] <DiskDaemon> Learn Java, then go modding.
#506 [08:33] <shizzle44> aaah. I see
#507 [08:35] <DiskDaemon> OP's - there's someone else in #minecraft asking about "failed to verify username" - this might be systemic
#508 [08:35] <VoxelHead> DiskDaemon - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
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#510 [08:35] <Pymous> Hello ! I have the error "Failed to verify username!" since this morning, any way to fix that ?
#511 [08:35] <VoxelHead> Pymous - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#512 [08:37] <shizzle44> It's true
#513 [08:37] <Steph> I have another question. My Gmail was hacked into (Unconfirmed) and deleted (Confirmed) just recently. Unfortunately, it's connected to my Minecraft account. It also contained my Transaction ID. However, I have migrated and I would like to find articles or anything of help to fix this.
#514 [08:37] <SinZ> !login
#515 [08:37] <Pymous> !login
#516 [08:37] <shizzle44> I have a drug in my pocket. It's my inhaler for athsma
#517 [08:38] <tyteen4a03> Steph: The transcation ID is probably in your paypal log
#518 [08:39] <shizzle44> anyone else on Steam?
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#520 [08:40] <Steph> Oh! Thank you! So, that helps with getting my ID back. Do you know the best way to get into contact with Mojang, Notch, or someone who could help me change my email?
#521 [08:40] <DiskDaemon> sure
#522 [08:40] <Andrio> shizzle44, I'm on Steam.
#523 [08:40] <DiskDaemon> Steph: This article here - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#524 [08:41] <shizzle44> DiskDameon, I'll send you a friend request for easier questioning
#525 [08:41] <shizzle44> what's your name?
#526 [08:41] <DiskDaemon> shizzle44: no thanks - please keep it in this channel
#527 [08:41] <Steph> Thank you! You guys are awesome C:
#528 [08:41] <shizzle44> Ah. Good point
#529 [08:42] <zack6849> mojangs auth is down?
#530 [08:42] <Calinou> <shizzle44> Diskdaemon ; I had a good Idea for 1.3 / 1.4 If you can pass it on to Jeb or Notch, Energy Bar. The Idea is that if you don't sleep enough, the bar will deplete and if it runs out completely, You'll fall asleep where you are.
#531 [08:42] * Calinou spits on shizzle44
#531 [08:42] <Calinou> "it's a suggestion"
#532 [08:42] <zack6849> thats the second time this week Dx
#533 [08:42] <shizzle44> Oy!
#534 [08:43] <shizzle44> calinou, what was that for?
#535 [08:43] * DiskDaemon moves spit bucket closer to Calinou's aim
#535 [08:43] <zack6849> Calinou, noooo, i dont want to have more bars to watch D:
#536 [08:43] <shizzle44> zack that was my idea
#537 [08:44] <Calinou> I like hunger
#538 [08:44] <zack6849> oh
#539 [08:44] <zack6849> still dont like the bars >_>
#540 [08:44] <shizzle44> brb
#541 [08:44] <zack6849> i might mfind a way in MCP to remove them
#542 [08:44] <zack6849> and use that for SP
#543 [08:44] <shizzle44> back
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#545 [08:45] <shizzle44> So, 1.3's due for August the first huh. I can't wait
#546 [08:45] <DiskDaemon> With a ValveTime rider on that date.
#547 [08:45] <gWork2002> I can wait.
#548 [08:46] <shizzle44> orly?
#549 [08:46] <DiskDaemon> eys, read the twitter
#550 [08:46] <gWork2002> updates are a pain in the ass for server owners..
#551 [08:46] <Calinou> too bad these are 300% rarer than in alpha
#552 [08:47] <zack6849> gWork2002, completley agree there
#553 [08:47] <gWork2002> :P
#554 [08:47] <Necrodoom> Calinou: more like 10 times rares
#555 [08:47] <zack6849> thats why i usually only post my server once per update
#556 [08:47] <Necrodoom> rarer*
#557 [08:47] <Necrodoom> alpha had updates per week, the same size they are now
#558 [08:48] <Calinou> rarer updates = good for mods/servers, but bad for vanilla players
#559 [08:48] <zack6849> btw, what is valvetime?
#560 [08:48] <Calinou> beta updates = once a month usually
#561 [08:48] <shizzle44> its when the update a game on steam
#562 [08:48] <DiskDaemon> Valve is a company that is well known for stating a date, and being incredibly inaccurate with the actual release
#563 [08:48] <zack6849> yeah but why would they tag a minecraft update as #ValveTime
#564 [08:48] <zack6849> oh okay disk
#565 [08:48] <DiskDaemon> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
#566 [08:48] <shizzle44> true. true
#567 [08:48] <zack6849> pun on dates
#568 [08:49] <Necrodoom> Calinou: unless theres so many bugs people need bug fixes to play game
#569 [08:49] <zack6849> LOL
#570 [08:49] <shizzle44> Who else has an ocarina?
#571 [08:49] <Calinou> beta didn't have large "doesn't work" bugs
#572 [08:49] <Calinou> alpha did once
#573 [08:50] <Necrodoom> release has quite a bit
#574 [08:50] <Necrodoom> with java and stuff
#575 [08:50] <zack6849> i like java when it actually works
#576 [08:51] <zack6849> then if it doesnt i go to bukkitev and get replies that make next to no sense
#577 [08:51] <zack6849> half those guys would make fantastic poloticians with their indirect ansers
#578 [08:51] <shizzle44> I used to have an awful computer that only had 704 MB memory and it couldn't even run Tomb Raider 2
#579 [08:52] <shizzle44> but now I have a tiny bit better one
#580 [08:52] <shizzle44> it's got loads more MB
#581 [08:52] <zack6849> 0_0
#582 [08:52] <Rikairchy> 704
#583 [08:52] <zack6849> less than 1gb of ram?
#584 [08:52] <zack6849> how do you even...
#585 [08:52] <shizzle44> it has 64 mb
#586 [08:52] <shizzle44> I know
#587 [08:52] <zack6849> did you get it from a archeological dig?
#588 [08:53] <shizzle44> That's what I thought XD
#589 [08:53] <Rikairchy> i hate this vps >.>
#590 [08:53] <zack6849> what VPS?
#591 [08:53] <Rikairchy> k, i know this isnt #bukkithelp
#592 [08:53] <zack6849> mhm
#593 [08:53] <Rikairchy> but some of ya gotta be at least a little familiar
#594 [08:53] <shizzle44> nope.
#595 [08:53] <zack6849> i can halp with bukkit
#596 [08:53] <Necrodoom> i remember my 10 years old computer
#597 [08:53] <zack6849> actuall y been running a bukkit server for about a year and a half
#598 [08:53] <shizzle44> I can't even get my server back up and runnig
#599 [08:53] <zack6849> whats the issur Rikairchy ?
#600 [08:54] <Rikairchy> okay, built a server on a VM, and SCP'd everything up to my VPS
#601 [08:54] <zack6849> *issue
#602 [08:54] <Rikairchy> "12:51:32 [WARNING] Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded?"
#603 [08:54] <Necrodoom> had like 256-128MB ram
#604 [08:54] <Rikairchy> every 4-5 seconds >.>
#605 [08:54] <shizzle44> but I won't need to after Aug 1
#606 [08:54] <Rikairchy> so i wiped the server directory
#607 [08:54] <shizzle44> I can make a server in the click of a button
#608 [08:54] <zack6849> Rikairchy, that has nothing to do with the server itself
#609 [08:54] <zack6849> its the hardware theserver is on
#610 [08:54] <Rikairchy> the hardware
#611 [08:54] <zack6849> yeah
#612 [08:54] <Rikairchy> is better than whats on my VM
#613 [08:54] <Rikairchy> my VM had 2 vCores and 2GB of ram
#614 [08:54] <shizzle44> wasd
#615 [08:55] <zack6849> check your cpu + ram usage while rinnong the server
#616 [08:55] <Rikairchy> this VPS has 4 vCores and 3GB
#617 [08:55] <shizzle44> dsaw
#618 [08:55] <Rikairchy> the CPU usage is almost 100
#619 [08:55] <zack6849> thats why ^^
#620 [08:55] <Rikairchy> whats causing that though?
#621 [08:55] <zack6849> the cant keep up messages
#622 [08:55] <Rikairchy> usually bukkit uses around 4-5 at the most
#623 [08:55] <zack6849> are warnings from bukkit
#624 [08:55] <shizzle44> Am the only one here who owns an ocarina?
#625 [08:55] <zack6849> that the server literally cant keep up
#626 [08:55] <Rikairchy> okay but what could be causing the CPU usage?
#627 [08:56] <zack6849> it doesnt have the rescources to keep the server from lagg
#628 [08:56] <zack6849> go to task manager
#629 [08:56] <zack6849> processes
#630 [08:56] <zack6849> and srot by cpu
#631 [08:56] <Rikairchy> this is linux :P
#632 [08:56] <shizzle44> mhm?
#633 [08:56] <zack6849> *sort
#634 [08:56] <zack6849> err
#635 [08:56] <Rikairchy> I've got ps aux
#636 [08:56] <Rikairchy> ;D
#637 [08:56] <shizzle44> mmmmhmmm?
#638 [08:56] <zack6849> i dont use linux
#639 [08:56] <zack6849> can you see whats using the most cpu?
#640 [08:56] <shizzle44> I use windows XP
#641 [08:56] <zack6849> EWWW
#642 [08:56] <zack6849> D:
#643 [08:56] <Rikairchy> i wonder
#644 [08:56] <shizzle44> I'm saving up for a mac laptop
#645 [08:56] <Rikairchy> i used openJDK 7 on the VM
#646 [08:56] <Rikairchy> and I'm using 6 on the VPS
#647 [08:57] * zack6849 must not comment
#647 [08:57] <Rikairchy> and CB 1.2.5 R4
#648 [08:57] <zack6849> well rik
#649 [08:57] <shizzle44> I have about... £60
#650 [08:57] <Rikairchy> could that be why?
#651 [08:57] <zack6849> thats most likley not the issue
#652 [08:57] <zack6849> as ive said
#653 [08:57] <Rikairchy> idling the VPS has 1.8% used
#654 [08:57] <zack6849> its the hardware thats being used
#655 [08:57] <zack6849> not the software
#656 [08:57] <shizzle44> I want a jaffa cake. brb
#657 [08:57] <zack6849> i run my server locally
#658 [08:57] <zack6849> no errors
#659 [08:57] <zack6849> then again
#660 [08:57] <Rikairchy> I'm tellin you
#661 [08:57] <zack6849> i have 12gb of ram
#662 [08:58] <Rikairchy> this VPS had 4 minecraft servers on it at one point
#663 [08:58] <Rikairchy> not VPS, dedi
#664 [08:58] <Rikairchy> my mistake
#665 [08:58] <Rikairchy> but
#666 [08:58] <Rikairchy> each of them are in their own VPS
#667 [08:58] <zack6849> your on a dedi or vps?
#668 [08:58] <zack6849> *you;re
#669 [08:58] <Rikairchy> i have a dedi
#670 [08:58] <zack6849> *you're
#671 [08:58] <Rikairchy> the MC is on a VPS for it
#672 [08:58] <zack6849> WHAT?
#673 [08:58] <zack6849> are you serious...
#674 [08:58] <Rikairchy> yes
#675 [08:58] <zack6849> your on a tri core dide
#676 [08:58] <Rikairchy> uh no
#677 [08:58] <zack6849> and your getting lagg?
#678 [08:59] <Rikairchy> I'm on an 8 core dedi
#679 [08:59] <zack6849> 0_0
#680 [08:59] <Rikairchy> okay the dedicated server
#681 [08:59] <shizzle44> imma back!
#682 [08:59] <zack6849> and you're lagging?
#683 [08:59] <shizzle44> oh my god that jaffa cake was delicius
#684 [08:59] <Rikairchy> has 1TB HDD, 8 core CPU, and 16GB of RAM
#685 [08:59] <Rikairchy> my VPS on it
#686 [08:59] <zack6849> how much of that is dedicated tyo your server?
#687 [08:59] <zack6849> *to
#688 [08:59] <Rikairchy> has 50GB of HDD access, 4 cores, and 3GB of RAM
#689 [08:59] <Calinou> noonecares
#690 [08:59] <zack6849> yeha no way that should be laggy
#691 [08:59] <Morrolan> Minecraft isn't using more than two cores anyway.
#692 [08:59] <zack6849> im using 3gb ranm + a quad core
#693 [09:00] <Rikairchy> Morrolan: when i run bukkit, all four cores show use
#694 [09:00] <zack6849> no way in hell that should be spamming cant keep up
#695 [09:00] <Morrolan> Not up to 100% though?
#696 [09:00] <Morrolan> IIRC it uses two threads, meaning it might use 200% CPU at most.
#697 [09:00] <zack6849> bukkit and minecraft arent the same
#698 [09:00] <zack6849> servers are allowed to use more cores
#699 [09:00] <Rikairchy> well
#700 [09:00] <Morrolan> Whether that's on two cores, or split up across several cores shouldn't matter.
#701 [09:01] <Rikairchy> this management panel shows exactly whats bein used
#702 [09:01] <Rikairchy> 100% of 4CPUs
#703 [09:01] <zack6849> rik how many plugins do you have?
#704 [09:01] <Rikairchy> zack6849: it shows that with zero plugins
#705 [09:01] <Calinou> <Morrolan> Minecraft isn't using more than two cores anyway.
#706 [09:01] <zack6849> 0_0
#707 [09:01] <Calinou> lol :P
#708 [09:01] <zack6849> Rikairchy, want to take this to pm so i stop bothering these guys?
#709 [09:01] <shizzle44> DiskDaemon, I think Zack6849 could be a good server help person
#710 [09:01] <Calinou> it sounds like minecraft was made so that dedi hosters make money
#711 [09:01] <Rikairchy> prolly be easier
#712 [09:02] <Calinou> <Rikairchy> i used openJDK 7 on the VM
#713 [09:02] <Calinou> openJDK is bad mkay?
#714 [09:02] <zack6849> lol
#715 [09:02] <Calinou> average 20% slower
#716 [09:02] <Rikairchy> uh
#717 [09:02] <zack6849> shizzle44, i actually am actively in bukkithelp
#718 [09:02] <shizzle44> Oh
#719 [09:02] <Morrolan> You're not bothering me, I'm just adding to the discussion what I know.
#720 [09:02] <Rikairchy> Depths used it, Aperture uses it, DC uses it, and all my home servers used it
#721 [09:02] <shizzle44> daz cool
#722 [09:03] <zack6849> nah Calinou
#723 [09:03] <zack6849> i run a dedi server and dont make any monies
#724 [09:03] <zack6849> :P
#725 [09:03] <zack6849> then again i dont ask for it ever
#726 [09:03] <Rikairchy> same
#727 [09:03] <Rikairchy> I host three MC servers
#728 [09:03] <zack6849> three?
#729 [09:03] <Rikairchy> i just dont admin them :P
#730 [09:03] <shizzle44> I'm gonna go now. Criminal Minds is on. Thanks for your help! Be seein' ya!
#731 [09:03] <Rikairchy> not on this dedi im using now
#732 [09:03] <zack6849> oh okay
#733 [09:03] <zack6849> was gonna say
#734 [09:03] <Calinou> zack6849, I mean people who host the machines
#735 [09:03] <Rikairchy> this one has one server
#736 [09:03] <zack6849> that may be your issue
#737 [09:03] <zack6849> Calinou, yeah you;re right
#738 [09:04] <zack6849> its for the kids who don know how to set it up on their own / dopnt have a good enough pc
#739 [09:04] <Rikairchy> zack6849: we had three on this dedi at one point
#740 [09:04] <Rikairchy> now I'm just trying to run two
#741 [09:04] <Calinou> public home server = dangerous, even on linux
#742 [09:04] <Calinou> script kiddies, don't forget
#743 [09:04] <zack6849> why's that?
#744 [09:04] <zack6849> yeah i know about the script kiddies
#745 [09:04] <zack6849> what are they gonna do?
#746 [09:04] <Calinou> "i will hack u"
#747 [09:04] <Calinou> :P
#748 [09:04] <zack6849> lmao
#749 [09:04] <zack6849> that is the funniest threat ever
#750 [09:05] <zack6849> one asked for op
#751 [09:05] <zack6849> i said no
#752 [09:05] <zack6849> he flooded the chat with
#753 [09:05] <zack6849> *WARNING* PLAYER-HAKER ENABLED. STEALING ACCOUNT :ZACK6849
#754 [09:05] <zack6849> i lol'd soo hard
#755 [09:05] <zack6849> OHNOES
#756 [09:05] <zack6849> HERE GAIS
#757 [09:05] <zack6849> YOU CAN HAZ OP
#758 [09:05] <zack6849> anywys Rikairchy
#759 [09:06] <zack6849> you;re not using ANY plugins?
#760 [09:06] <zack6849> *you're
#761 [09:06] <Rikairchy> correct
#762 [09:06] <zack6849> just the bare minimum?
#763 [09:06] <Rikairchy> yes
#764 [09:06] <zack6849> the server itself?
#765 [09:06] <Rikairchy> yes.
#766 [09:06] <zack6849> and its giving you cant keep up?
#767 [09:06] <zack6849> who hosts the dedi
#768 [09:06] <Rikairchy> Razor
#769 [09:06] <Rikairchy> no one else had this issue
#770 [09:07] <Rikairchy> >.>
#771 [09:07] <zack6849> the gaming company? o.0
#772 [09:07] <Rikairchy> no
#773 [09:07] <Rikairchy> thats Razer
#774 [09:07] <zack6849> who's razor?
#775 [09:07] <Rikairchy> http://www.razorservers.com/
#776 [09:07] <zack6849> contact them
#777 [09:07] <Rikairchy> and...?
#778 [09:08] <zack6849> i think they may be ripping you off
#779 [09:08] <zack6849> >_>
#780 [09:08] <Rikairchy> how so
#781 [09:08] <zack6849> perhaps lending some of your cores to another server when it isnt in use
#782 [09:08] <Rikairchy> they cant
#783 [09:08] <Rikairchy> its a dedicated server
#784 [09:08] <zack6849> because you cant lagg like that man
#785 [09:08] <zack6849> no way
#786 [09:08] <Rikairchy> yes
#787 [09:08] <Rikairchy> fully dedicated
#788 [09:08] <zack6849> if all else fails
#789 [09:08] <Wug> lol player haker
#790 [09:08] <zack6849> try updating everything
#791 [09:08] <zack6849> but yeah
#792 [09:08] <Rikairchy> i might nuke this VPS
#793 [09:08] <zack6849> thats my only guess
#794 [09:08] <Rikairchy> and start over
#795 [09:08] <zack6849> ^^^
#796 [09:09] <zack6849> thats my sufggestion
#797 [09:09] <zack6849> because ive NEVER heard of that
#798 [09:09] <Rikairchy> I'm purging this first
#799 [09:09] <Wug> Rikairchy: whats it doing
#800 [09:09] <zack6849> wug
#801 [09:09] <zack6849> hes running with 4cores and 3gb dedi ram
#802 [09:09] <zack6849> and he gets cant keep up
#803 [09:09] <zack6849> saying his cpu is at 100
#804 [09:09] <zack6849> yet he isnt running any plugins
#805 [09:09] <Wug> Rikairchy: is it debian
#806 [09:09] <zack6849> im thiking its server side
#807 [09:10] <Wug> has it been rebooted since the leap second
#808 [09:10] <zack6849> he did mention linux,
#809 [09:10] <zack6849> LOL
#810 [09:10] <Wug> if not, reboot it
#811 [09:10] <zack6849> i didnt even think of that wub!
#812 [09:10] <zack6849> good idea
#813 [09:10] <Wug> whatever that did turned bukkits into cpu bombs everywhere
#814 [09:10] <zack6849> wasnt that what brought down the TPB?
#815 [09:10] <Wug> rebooting fixes.
#816 [09:11] <Wug> it brought down lots of things
#817 [09:11] <zack6849> TPB was down for a WHILE
#818 [09:11] <Wug> servers all over the world failed
#819 [09:11] <Rikairchy> the VPS was created after the leap second
#820 [09:11] <zack6849> not mine :D
#821 [09:11] <Rikairchy> and i've sync'd the hardware clock via NTP
#822 [09:11] <zack6849> hooray for me knowning nothin about linux!
#823 [09:11] <Wug> Rikairchy: the machine its running on might need to be bounced
#824 [09:12] <zack6849> Rikairchy, INSTALL GENTOO
#825 [09:12] <zack6849> sorry.
#826 [09:12] <zack6849> ill shut up
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#828 [09:12] <zack6849> ello
#829 [09:25] <Morrolan> Haha, suppose I shoudl have read up what those two were actually talking about, then I could have told them about the leap second bug.
#830 [09:26] <Morrolan> As it is, I only saw the talk about Minecraft using four cores.
#831 [09:26] <Necrodoom> whats this leap second bug?
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#833 [09:26] <Morrolan> There was a bug in Debian's NTP code, which somehow lead to Java applications using up a lot of CPU once the leapsecond was added.
#834 [09:26] <Morrolan> I've got a technical explanation somewhere, if you're interested.
#835 [09:27] <Necrodoom> so it basically causes a CPU usage spike every minute?
#836 [09:27] <Morrolan> No, it caused it to use whatever CPU power it could get hold off, all the time.
#837 [09:27] <Morrolan> E.g. our Minecraft server suddendly used five full cores, bringing down the other servers running on that box.
#838 [09:27] <zack6849> LOL
#839 [09:28] <Necrodoom> oh, great, no more hosting servers on 1.3 then
#840 [09:28] <Morrolan> http://serverfault.com/questions/403732/anyone-else-experiencing-high-rates-of-linux-server-crashes-during-a-leap-second <- There's an explanation in the post marked as answer.
#841 [09:28] <Morrolan> No guarantee that it's correct, I lack the understanding of the kernel to be able to judge that answer.
#842 [09:28] <Morrolan> But it's got enough upvotes that it can't be too much off. ;)
#843 [09:29] <Morrolan> Be it as it be, a restart of the machine fixed it. (Not sure whether an update to fix it was already pushed though)
#844 [09:29] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, there have been a couple in here about the cpu load. It's nice to know that that's going to be resolved
#845 [09:30] <Necrodoom> is it in java itself or in minecraft code?
#846 [09:30] <Morrolan> Neither.
#847 [09:31] <Necrodoom> wait, what?
#848 [09:31] <DiskDaemon> Debian's NTP code
#849 [09:31] <Necrodoom> noob here, NTP doesnt tell me much
#850 [09:31] <DiskDaemon> Network Time Protocol
#851 [09:31] <Necrodoom> so, OS?
#852 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> It went on the fritz when the leap-second occurred
#853 [09:32] <Morrolan> Network Time Protocol. It' used to synchronize a server's clock with online time sources.
#854 [09:32] <Morrolan> Yea, it's a bug on OS-level.
#855 [09:32] <DiskDaemon> tht is, if "fritz" is suitably descriptive for the situation :)
#856 [09:32] <Necrodoom> i see it now
#857 [09:33] <Morrolan> After a while other Java applications started exhibiting such behaviour too, and I assume if we hadn't restarted others might have followed.
#858 [09:33] <Necrodoom> and lost it again
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#861 [09:42] <mr_nall3> Out of memory! Minecraft has run out of memory.This could be caused by a bug in the game or by the java virtual machine not being allocated enough memory. If you are playing in a web browser , try downloading the game and playing it offline. [3:17:10 PM] Lucas Lucas: prevent level corruption, the current game has quit. We`ve tried to free up enough memory to let you go back to the main menu and back palying, but this may not have
#862 [09:42] <mr_nall3> i dont get it
#863 [09:43] <mr_nall3> Are you there?
#864 [09:43] <zen> Minecraft has ran out of allocated RAM, how much ram have you got in your PC?
#865 [09:46] <mr_nall3> Do you get Swedish if i talk that?
#866 [09:46] <zen> No
#867 [09:46] <mr_nall3> What i ram?
#868 [09:47] <zen> ??> mr_nall3 win/dxdiag
#869 [09:47] <VoxelHead> mr_nall3: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#870 [09:47] <VoxelHead> mr_nall3: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#874 [09:59] <Lucas> Hello
#875 [09:59] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#876 [10:00] <Lucas> Do you understand swedish?
#877 [10:00] <DiskDaemon> not really
#878 [10:00] <Lucas> Out of memory! Minecraft has run out of memory.This could be caused by a bug in the game or by the java virtual machine not being allocated enough memory. If you are playing in a web browser , try downloading the game and playing it offline. [3:17:10 PM] Lucas Lucas: prevent level corruption, the current game has quit. We`ve tried to free up enough memory to
#879 [10:00] <Lucas> what i do?
#880 [10:01] <DiskDaemon> Lucas: You are also here as mr_nall3, who has been given instructions by VoxelHead
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#882 [10:03] <Lucas> Minecraft
#883 [10:03] <gWork2002> Talkin' bout Minecraft
#884 [10:04] <gWork2002> Talkin' bout Miiiineeecraft
#885 [10:04] <gWork2002> Talkin' bout
#886 [10:04] <gWork2002> Miiiineeecraft
#887 [10:04] <gWork2002> sorry, couldn't resist
#888 [10:04] <gWork2002> :P
#889 [10:04] <Morrolan> Go fix MCBlockIt instead of singing. xP
#890 [10:04] <gWork2002> dammit Morrolan
#891 [10:04] <gWork2002> :P
#892 [10:04] <Morrolan> Any clue what happened to Kite?
#893 [10:04] <Lucas> Can you help me?
#894 [10:04] <gWork2002> actually I should be helping out but I just haven't had time
#895 [10:04] <Morrolan> He's been gone for, five days already?
#896 [10:04] <gWork2002> Morrolan, "Happened"?
#897 [10:04] <gWork2002> I dunno
#898 [10:04] <gWork2002> I was talking to him on skype last night, he seemed okay
#899 [10:04] <Morrolan> Huh.
#900 [10:04] <gWork2002> but I haven't been around really
#901 [10:04] <Morrolan> Guess he lost his IRC credentials then. ;D
#902 [10:05] <gWork2002> probably :P
#903 [10:05] <Morrolan> Or is just busy with other stuff.
#904 [10:05] <gWork2002> someone tells me mcbans is copying us again >.>
#905 [10:05] <Lucas> CAN YOU HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????
#906 [10:05] <Morrolan> ??> Lucas win/dxdiag
#907 [10:05] <VoxelHead> Lucas: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#908 [10:05] <VoxelHead> Lucas: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#909 [10:05] <Morrolan> You were already given those instructions once.
#910 [10:06] <gWork2002> Morrolan: Have you looked at the latest mcbans code?
#911 [10:06] <Lucas> i DONT GET IT
#912 [10:06] <gWork2002> They're not even being subtle about it anymore..
#913 [10:06] <gWork2002> "BanSync"
#914 [10:06] <Morrolan> gWork2002 - Haven't had time yet, I still hope to get a response from MCBans staff, Java isn't my favourite language to read.
#915 [10:06] <zen> Lucas are you on windows?
#916 [10:06] <Lucas> yes
#917 [10:06] <gWork2002> Morrolan, having a problem with mcbans staff? :P
#918 [10:06] <Lucas> no
#919 [10:07] <zen> Lucas the win key is the key on your keyboard between ctrl and alt
#920 [10:07] <Morrolan> Hah, "problem" is putting it mildly. We should take this to #minecrafthelp.breakroom or similar though, while zen and Lucas are busy here. :)
#921 [10:07] <gWork2002> okay.
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#923 [10:07] <Lucas> sry
#924 [10:10] <Lucas> Do you understand swedish?
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#927 [10:13] <Lucas1> Hello
#928 [10:14] <zack6849> Lucas1, lucas
#929 [10:14] <zack6849> nobody here speaks sweedish as far as i know
#930 [10:14] <zack6849> we told yu how to fix it multiple times
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#932 [10:17] <Morrolan> !login
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#940 [11:02] <jjs999jjs> Ihave a debian server for minecraft and its using 78% of the cpu when it used to only use very little, even whn there are no players and also i let it create a new default map
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#942 [11:03] <DiskDaemon> Since the leap-second a few days ago, the NTP code of the server tries to use most if not all the CPU when running Java. This has been patched now, so I believe.
#943 [11:03] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: Did you have some details on that?
#944 [11:03] <Morrolan> Restart your server and it should be fixed.
#945 [11:03] <jjs999jjs> its been like this for more than a few days though
#946 [11:03] <jjs999jjs> lol restarted it lots of times
#947 [11:03] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - No clue whether Debian pushed a patch yet.
#948 [11:03] <Morrolan> jjs999jjs - Not the Minecraft server, the physical machine.
#949 [11:04] <Morrolan> ACtually, there's a command you could issue as well.
#950 [11:04] <jjs999jjs> hmm ok
#951 [11:04] <Morrolan> "date -s now" I believe?
#952 [11:04] <jjs999jjs> so as root I would type date -s now
#953 [11:04] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#954 [11:05] <jjs999jjs> ok lets try that I guess a restart afterwards too ?
#955 [11:05] * DiskDaemon knows the world is in good hands, and sleeps
#955 [11:05] <Calinou> date -s now...?
#956 [11:05] <Morrolan> Nah, that command should help on its own.
#957 [11:05] <Morrolan> You can also restart, but that's a different solution.
#958 [11:05] <jjs999jjs> right lets go try then :)
#959 [11:05] <Morrolan> I suppose you could also kill and start the ntp daemon, but I wouldn't know for sure.
#960 [11:06] <jjs999jjs> it did thid
#961 [11:06] <jjs999jjs> root@admin:~# date -s now
#962 [11:06] <jjs999jjs> Fri Jul 6 11:06:41 EDT 2012
#963 [11:06] <jjs999jjs> root@admin:~#
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#965 [11:07] <Calinou> why do you log in as root? :x
#966 [11:07] <thegghg> anyone need help?
#967 [11:07] <Morrolan> That isn't how it works. :)
#968 [11:07] <thegghg> oh
#969 [11:07] <jjs999jjs> ouch
#970 [11:07] <Calinou> not right now; stay around and maybe someone willa sk
#971 [11:07] <Warfar> y minecraft no like mah amd
#972 [11:07] <Calinou> Warfar, nvidia FTW
#973 [11:07] <Morrolan> Calinou - I'd assume this command has to be executed as root. (ofcourse, sudo would work too)
#974 [11:08] <thegghg> why doesnt my server work
#975 [11:08] <Morrolan> Be more specific.
#976 [11:08] <Morrolan> jjs999jjs - If this didn't help I'd suggest to restart the physical machine nevertheless.
#977 [11:08] <jjs999jjs> yes I will do that later tnx guys
#978 [11:09] <Morrolan> Cya. (If it still isn't fixed then it's a different issue, feel free to come back)
#979 [11:09] <thegghg> only i can connect to the server of the gods in which thou havnt heard of
#980 [11:09] <Morrolan> thegghg - Did you set up portforwarding?
#981 [11:09] <thegghg> not even my cousin
#982 [11:09] <Warfar> yes he did
#983 [11:09] <thegghg> yeas
#984 [11:09] <Warfar> (BTW hes on a mac)
#985 [11:09] <thegghg> my server used to work
#986 [11:09] <Morrolan> And what IP did you give them to connect?
#987 [11:10] <Morrolan> Then your internal IP changed most likely, and the portforwarding rules isn't correct anymore.
#988 [11:10] <thegghg> 184.22.34.168
#989 [11:10] <thegghg> oh wait sorry
#990 [11:10] <thegghg> wrong one
#991 [11:10] <gWork2002> !check 184.22.34.168
#992 [11:10] <thegghg> 67.162.41.55
#993 [11:10] <gWork2002> !check 67.162.41.55
#994 [11:11] <thegghg> yea
#995 [11:11] <Morrolan> My bet is on your internal IP having changed.
#996 [11:11] <Morrolan> Check whether it's still the one set in the portforwarding rule.
#997 [11:12] <thegghg> i dont think it did
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#999 [11:12] <Morrolan> Don't assume, check it.
#1000 [11:12] <jjs999jjs> Morrolan
#1001 [11:12] <Morrolan> If you're using DHCP it's possible that it changed.
#1002 [11:12] <Warfar> gwork
#1003 [11:12] <Warfar> its on port 1336
#1004 [11:12] <thegghg> ok
#1005 [11:12] <jjs999jjs> magic many thanks guys appreciated...
#1006 [11:12] <Morrolan> !check 67.162.41.55:1336
#1007 [11:12] <jjs999jjs> down to 1% now of cpu useage
#1008 [11:12] <Morrolan> jjs999jjs - Heh, good to hear. :)
#1009 [11:12] * jjs999jjs hugs then runs
#1009 [11:12] <jjs999jjs> bye bye
#1010 [11:12] <jjs999jjs> bye bye
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#1012 [11:12] <Morrolan> Cya.
#1013 [11:13] <thegghg> 67.162.41.55
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#1015 [11:18] <thegghg> thanks guys
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#1018 [11:29] <Swapy97> hello
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#1020 [11:30] <Swapy97> i have buy the game but http://www.minecraft.net/ is doing nothing
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#1027 [12:23] <InfectedPhreak> I've setup a normal server, and forwarded my ports... but can't connect via I.P address... Was wondering what might be the problem.
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#1029 [12:24] <kleiner_marco> Hello.
#1030 [12:25] <kleiner_marco> If I want my Minecraft.exe open and I log it says: Can not connect to minecraft.net
#1031 [12:25] <gWork2002> !login
#1032 [12:25] <kleiner_marco> How can I fix it?
#1033 [12:26] <gWork2002> I wish I could help but I have to go in a sec
#1034 [12:26] <gWork2002> maybe GreyVulpine or Morrolan is here
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#1036 [12:26] <superkabii> ;check InfectedPhreak
#1037 [12:26] <WugBot> Unable to connect to address: cpe-72-228-10-112.nycap.res.rr.com:25565 (Timed out)
#1038 [12:26] <InfectedPhreak> Isn't there a command to test and see if a server is operational?
#1039 [12:27] <InfectedPhreak> Yeah, I don't know why it's not open... The ports are forwarded and the server is running.
#1040 [12:27] <kleiner_marco> If I want my Minecraft.exe open and I log it says: Can not connect to minecraft.net
#1041 [12:27] <kleiner_marco> How can I fix it?
#1042 [12:27] <Morrolan> kleiner_marco - Does your Windows username contain a "!"?
#1043 [12:27] <Morrolan> InfectedPhreak - Is the internal IP specified in the portforwarding rule correct?
#1044 [12:28] <InfectedPhreak> Yes.
#1045 [12:28] <Morrolan> Can you connect using its internal IP?
#1046 [12:28] <kleiner_marco> No.
#1047 [12:28] <InfectedPhreak> My connected device is .8 and the forward is for .8
#1048 [12:28] <InfectedPhreak> Yes, I can connect using both internal IP and localhost.
#1049 [12:28] <Morrolan> InfectedPhreak - Hmm. If you're sure that it's not the portforwarding rule, then check whether security software you are running might block it.
#1050 [12:28] <Morrolan> kleiner_marco - Did it ever work before?
#1051 [12:29] <kleiner_marco> Yes, all the time. So to this day.
#1052 [12:30] <InfectedPhreak> I added Minecraft_Server to my Windows Firewall.
#1053 [12:31] <InfectedPhreak> !check
#1054 [12:32] <InfectedPhreak> I'm going to try and restart my PC, now that I added it to the firewall and see if that helps.
#1055 [12:33] <kleiner_marco> Yes, all the time. So to this day.
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#1061 [12:39] <Psykotix> Okay, I restarted and everything... and it's still only letting my internal I.P / Localhost through.
#1062 [12:39] * Rikairchy returns
#1062 [12:40] * Calinou returns Rikairchy to base
#1062 [12:40] <Psykotix> !check
#1063 [12:41] <Rikairchy> Calinou: I just left base, actually
#1064 [12:41] <DopeGhoti> Psykotix: couple things.
#1065 [12:41] <Psykotix> Yes?
#1066 [12:42] <Rikairchy> [09:29:07] <@Morrolan> Be it as it be, a restart of the machine fixed it. (Not sure whether an update to fix it was already pushed though) | I'll restart the physical server momentarily. When I reconnect, I'll be back
#1067 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> you don't have anything set in server.properties for the server-ip line, have you?
#1068 [12:42] <Rikairchy> thanks for the advice
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#1070 [12:42] <Psykotix> Nope. It's completely blank.
#1071 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> good.
#1072 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> I just tested your IP, port 25565 is stealthed. 99% of the time, this means the port isn't forwarded, or it's forwarded to the wrong internal IP address.
#1073 [12:42] <DopeGhoti> I'd look at that.
#1074 [12:43] <Psykotix> It's forwarded on the correct internal.
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#1076 [12:43] <jrob> help
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#1078 [12:43] <Psykotix> Should I try restarting my router?
#1079 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> Psykotix: before you do that, try testing at canyouseeme.org
#1080 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> punch in port 25565, and tell what result you have.
#1081 [12:44] <DopeGhoti> I predict it will fail.
#1082 [12:45] <jrob> i cant play classic minecraft becase whenever i look around it flickers all over the place
#1083 [12:45] <Psykotix> It did fail.
#1084 [12:45] <DopeGhoti> okay. Double-check your computer's internal IP address, and the router's forward destination.
#1085 [12:46] <jrob> me
#1086 [12:46] <jrob> ?
#1087 [12:46] <Psykotix> My internal is 192.168.1.8 and it's forwarded on that same exact address.
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#1089 [12:46] <DopeGhoti> Psykotix: and you are forwarding TCP; not UDP?
#1090 [12:46] <Psykotix> I have it set to both.
#1091 [12:46] <Psykotix> Should I specifically put it on TCP?
#1092 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> 'both' is fine.
#1093 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> hm
#1094 [12:47] <Psykotix> I'm just going to restart my router, and see what happens.
#1095 [12:47] <DopeGhoti> worth a shot, I s'pose.
#1096 [12:48] <Psykotix> I'll return shortly.
#1097 [12:48] <DopeGhoti> I'd offer to help with TeamViewer, but I need to head in to work
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#1100 [12:59] <Psykotix> Yeah, I don't think it's going to work.
#1101 [13:02] <Psykotix> !check
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#1103 [13:08] <Calinou> DopeGhoti, do you think we should help people about port forwarding? this has nothing to do with minecraft
#1104 [13:08] <Calinou> we're #minecrafthelp not #portforward
#1105 [13:08] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1106 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> Calinou it's technically to... help people with minecraft
#1107 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> So I would say we should
#1108 [13:09] <Calinou> personally... it is fine, but it is low priority
#1109 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1110 [13:09] <Calinou> (better answer people that can't start MC first)
#1111 [13:09] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#1113 [13:11] <Marc_IRL> Anyone recognize the error "Fatal Error Occured (4):Connection Reset" when launching the game?
#1114 [13:12] <|Kiikun|> yes.. the people who cant run get priority.. then the people who cant port forward
#1115 [13:12] <|Kiikun|> heya marc :3 just the launcher or the game itself?
#1116 [13:12] <Marc_IRL> unspecified
#1117 [13:12] <Marc_IRL> I'm going on super limited info
#1118 [13:14] <|Kiikun|> connecting to a server i can see that error.. but just launching the game?
#1119 [13:14] * |Kiikun| also has to go to work now x.x
#1119 [13:16] <|Kiikun|> marc: might be antivirus/firewall blockign the game's install/update
#1120 [13:17] <Marc_IRL> yeah, could be
#1121 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> or might be this -> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/745352-fatal-error-occured-4-connection-reset/
#1122 [13:17] <|Kiikun|> i asume atleast the actual error is the one theyre getting
#1123 [13:18] * |Kiikun| runs away now x.x
#1123 [13:18] <Grim_Reaper> Oh look it's Marc_IRL
#1124 [13:18] <Grim_Reaper> spam him with useless account questions!
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#1128 [13:19] <Marc_IRL> teehee
#1129 [13:19] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#1130 [13:20] * Grim_Reaper reports Marc_IRL for op abuse
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#1132 [13:29] <d33n> Is there anyway to see what ip's logged in with my account?
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#1134 [13:31] <Rikairchy> hi TKGP
#1135 [13:31] <Rikairchy> you live near me >.>
#1136 [13:31] <Rikairchy> dont you stalk me.
#1137 [13:32] <TKGP> oh no, you've found out my devious plan
#1138 [13:32] <Rikairchy> D:
#1139 [13:32] <Rikairchy> stay away
#1140 [13:32] <Rikairchy> i have something to deal with stalkers.
#1141 [13:33] <TKGP> STALKERs or stalkers
#1142 [13:33] <TKGP> because I've been playing a lot of SoC lately and I bet I could take you
#1143 [13:33] <Rikairchy> well
#1144 [13:34] <Rikairchy> just dont stalk me :s
#1145 [13:34] <Rikairchy> or i might rip your heart out, and eat your soul.
#1146 [13:34] <TKGP> http://www.kyon.pl/static/img/remiq.net_14077.jpg
#1147 [13:35] <TKGP> k.
#1148 [13:35] <Rikairchy> how far are you from Raleigh?
#1149 [13:35] <TKGP> not very
#1150 [13:35] <TKGP> if you're familiar with five points
#1151 [13:35] <Rikairchy> I only know Raleigh, Fayettenam, and Bragg
#1152 [13:36] <TKGP> >Fayettenam
#1153 [13:36] <TKGP> hi dad what are you doing on the internet
#1154 [13:36] <Rikairchy> dude have you ever been there
#1155 [13:36] <Rikairchy> theres legit 1/2 inch steal bars
#1156 [13:36] <TKGP> no, but that is a very old-person thing to say
#1157 [13:36] <Rikairchy> over windows
#1158 [13:36] <Rikairchy> and people with signs that say
#1159 [13:36] <Rikairchy> "Firearm inside, licensed to use"
#1160 [13:36] <Rikairchy> and all kinds of stuff
#1161 [13:37] <TKGP> well five points isn't a city anyways, it's a location
#1162 [13:37] <TKGP> which is close to raleigh
#1163 [13:37] <TKGP> so that is the answer
#1164 [13:37] <Rikairchy> i'm about....45? min from raleigh
#1165 [13:37] <TKGP> by foot, or equestrian?
#1166 [13:38] <Rikairchy> no one walks in this state
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#1168 [13:38] <Rikairchy> if you look at some of the locals, its obvious
#1169 [13:38] <TKGP> hurhur
#1170 [13:40] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: Yes, I do.
#1171 [13:41] <DopeGhoti> Calinou: which is not to say that anyone is _required_ to. We're all volunteers after all.
#1172 [13:41] <Calinou> d33n, no, you can't
#1173 [13:42] <Calinou> if you host a server, you can see the IPs of connecting clients, though.
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#1175 [13:53] <Rikairchy> where is that genius
#1176 [13:53] <TKGP> ayo
#1177 [13:54] <Rikairchy> no not you
#1178 [13:54] <Rikairchy> stalker.
#1179 [13:54] <TKGP> that hurts my feelings
#1180 [13:54] <Rikairchy> Morrolan
#1181 [13:54] <Rikairchy> buuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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#1183 [13:55] <berrio123> Any Admins?
#1184 [13:55] <TKGP> quite a lot of them actually
#1185 [13:55] <berrio123> Ah
#1186 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#1187 [13:55] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1188 [13:55] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1189 [13:56] <Rikairchy> also people that act like they're admins
#1190 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> Like Rikairchy
#1191 [13:56] <Rikairchy> Morrolan|Away: you were correct
#1192 [13:56] * Grim_Reaper runs
#1192 [13:56] <Rikairchy> i dont act like an admin
#1193 [13:56] <Rikairchy> i just play one on TV
#1194 [13:56] <Grim_Reaper> :<
#1195 [13:56] <berrio123> ok, Well i had sent in some Support Emails and havnt recived any reply for the past like 2 weeks. my account password was changed and im not getting password reset emails can anyone help?
#1196 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> You totally act like an admin! I may never have seen your nick on here till today. But I bet you, you act like an admin :<
#1197 [13:57] <Rikairchy> uh dude
#1198 [13:57] <Rikairchy> I've lurked here for weeks
#1199 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> berrio123, where did you send the mail to?
#1200 [13:57] <berrio123> I used the Help page
#1201 [13:57] <Rikairchy> berrio123: have you checked your spam folder?
#1202 [13:57] <berrio123> Yes
#1203 [13:57] <Rikairchy> and are you sure you spelled your email address correctly?
#1204 [13:57] <berrio123> yes
#1205 [13:57] <berrio123> iv sent about 3 about 3 days apart each
#1206 [13:57] <Rikairchy> as no one here works at Mohjang, I doubt there is very much anyone can do to help
#1207 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> Did you mail them by visiting http://help.mojang.com ?
#1208 [13:58] <berrio123> yes
#1209 [13:58] <TKGP> wait we don't get paid for this?
#1210 [13:58] <TKGP> shit, I'm out then
#1211 [13:58] <TKGP> shit, I'm out then
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#1213 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> TKGP nope
#1214 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1215 [13:58] <berrio123> lol...
#1216 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> berrio123, the best thing I can suggest is to wait some more
#1217 [13:58] <berrio123> ok
#1218 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> Sometimes emails get rather heavy on the mojang staff
#1219 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> ?? account
#1220 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> And it can take a while to answer
#1221 [13:58] <berrio123> ok
#1222 [13:58] <DopeGhoti> huh, someone removed that FAQ?
#1223 [13:59] <Rikairchy> isnt it ??>
#1224 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> Possibly DopeGhoti. Also hello to you
#1225 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> Rikairchy ?? works too
#1226 [13:59] <Rikairchy> ahh
#1227 [13:59] <Rikairchy> ?? linux
#1228 [13:59] <Rikairchy> aw
#1229 [13:59] <berrio123> now that means they are gonna reply to 3 of my msgs.... XD
#1230 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> > just adds a name you specify
#1231 [13:59] <DopeGhoti> ??> berrio123 accounts
#1232 [13:59] <VoxelHead> berrio123: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#1233 [13:59] <Rikairchy> !haspaid Rikairchy
#1234 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti he's already done that
#1235 [13:59] <Rikairchy> !paid Rikairchy
#1236 [14:00] <Grim_Reaper> He's asking since he still hasn't recieved a reply
#1237 [14:00] <Rikairchy> yeah ;D
#1238 [14:00] <berrio123> What dopeghoti?
#1239 [14:00] <Rikairchy> can we kickban VoxelHead :( it keeps quieting me :\
#1240 [14:00] <Calinou> Rikairchy, don't use enter as punctuation and do not repeat characters, you'll be fine.
#1241 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: it's telling you why. Stop doing what you're doing.
#1242 [14:00] <Grim_Reaper> Rikairchy leave poor VoxelHead alone ;-;
#1243 [14:00] <Rikairchy> but DopeGhoti
#1244 [14:00] <Rikairchy> i like doing what i do
#1245 [14:00] <Rikairchy> its called "women"
#1246 [14:00] * Rikairchy run
#1246 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> berrio123: Like Vox said, no one here works for Mojang, so all we can do is tell you to wait for their answer.
#1247 [14:01] <berrio123> okay
#1248 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> berrio123: are you _certain_ you have checked all of your email accounts?
#1249 [14:01] <berrio123> Yes
#1250 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> including the spam / junk mail boxen?
#1251 [14:01] <berrio123> Yes
#1252 [14:01] <DopeGhoti> I ask because the password reset emails usually go out instantly.
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#1254 [14:02] <berrio123> Yeah but it said my email did not exist in their system
#1255 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> Is your account converted to a Mojang account, or is it just a Minecraft account?
#1256 [14:02] <berrio123> regular
#1257 [14:02] <Rikairchy> did you do the reset via mohjang or minecraft
#1258 [14:02] <Grim_Reaper> So you login to minecraft with your username and not your email?
#1259 [14:02] <DopeGhoti> If it said the email didn't exist in their system, then you created the account with another email address.
#1260 [14:02] <berrio123> the Minecraft.net site
#1261 [14:02] <berrio123> Correct
#1262 [14:02] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti if the account was.. hacked and such including said email..
#1263 [14:02] <Grim_Reaper> Wouldn't it no longer list their email
#1264 [14:02] <berrio123> Yes but i did not create it with another email...
#1265 [14:03] <berrio123> i think maybe it was spelt wrong or something.
#1266 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: when did Mojang start allowing email address changes? I thought that still was not done?
#1267 [14:03] <berrio123> it isnt i dont think
#1268 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti Im pretty sure you can do email changes o_O
#1269 [14:03] <berrio123> orly..
#1270 [14:03] * DopeGhoti checks
#1270 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> Do check :3
#1271 [14:03] * berrio123 does too
#1271 [14:03] <Grim_Reaper> And correct me if Im wrong
#1272 [14:04] <berrio123> you cant
#1273 [14:04] <berrio123> i just checked
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#1275 [14:04] <Grim_Reaper> mk
#1276 [14:04] <Rikairchy> you can
#1277 [14:05] <berrio123> How?
#1278 [14:05] <Rikairchy> i did it three days ago
#1279 [14:05] <Rikairchy> i converted my minecraft.net account to a mohjang account
#1280 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> Rikairchy
#1281 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> It's Mojang :p
#1282 [14:05] <berrio123> Thats the first thing i plan to do when i get my acc back XD
#1283 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> okay, you can if you've converted the account
#1284 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> TIL
#1285 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1286 [14:05] <berrio123> oh yeah
#1287 [14:05] <Rikairchy> but once you do that
#1288 [14:05] <Rikairchy> you can no longer use your minecraft username at login
#1289 [14:05] <Rikairchy> you have to use the email
#1290 [14:05] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1291 [14:05] <Rikairchy> which sucks
#1292 [14:05] <DopeGhoti> once the account is converted, you use the email address, not the MC username to log into M.. what Rikairchy said
#1293 [14:05] <Rikairchy> as i didnt /know/ the email
#1294 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> it doesn't suck, it's just a thing.
#1295 [14:06] <Rikairchy> it does too suck
#1296 [14:06] <Rikairchy> its a thing that sucks
#1297 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: If you don't know the email, you should have found out when you converted, as clicking a link in a confirmation email is part of the conversion process.
#1298 [14:06] <Rikairchy> nope
#1299 [14:07] <Rikairchy> i didnt have to click a link in an email to convert
#1300 [14:07] <Bear> what is realy strange is Half way though the day the password changed...
#1301 [14:07] <Bear> At the begining of the day it worked
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#1303 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> OH, hey, neat; I still have an unredeemed Alpha code \o/
#1304 [14:07] <Bear> (2 weeks ago that is)
#1305 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> [20:07] <Rikairchy> i didnt have to click a link in an email to convert
#1306 [14:07] <Rikairchy> just had to click a link to change the email
#1307 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti!
#1308 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> Sell it
#1309 [14:07] <RG365> Is the login serer down?
#1310 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> For
#1311 [14:07] <Rikairchy> DopeGhoti: is it any good?
#1312 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> A new pc
#1313 [14:07] <Rikairchy> !down
#1314 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> Rikairchy alpha codes are awesomeness kinda
#1315 [14:07] <Rikairchy> wtf.
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#1317 [14:07] <Rikairchy> RG365: hold on
#1318 [14:08] <Rikairchy> ill check
#1319 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> ..they'll be awesomer once there's some content that only alpha codes actually _get_
#1320 [14:08] <Rikairchy> i logged in just fine
#1321 [14:08] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti true
#1322 [14:08] <RG365> Isint there a website for checking the login server
#1323 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> and I'm getting decreasingly confident that that will be a Thing.
#1324 [14:08] <Grim_Reaper> <--- is happy with my alpha code
#1325 [14:08] <d33n> Calinou: Too bad, I meant the Mojang account offcourse, I would be able to get it out of my server
#1326 [14:08] <Rikairchy> i dont have an alpha code :(
#1327 [14:08] <Rikairchy> i came in at 1.1.3 beta
#1328 [14:08] <d33n> oh hes gone :P
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#1330 [14:08] <Bear> speaking of alpha code i need to see if i got my alpha for something
#1331 [14:09] <Rikairchy> g
#1332 [14:09] <Marc_IRL> There's no such thing as an "alpha code"
#1333 [14:09] <Rikairchy> are you g from Archives?
#1334 [14:09] <Rikairchy> RG365
#1335 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> Bear: the only thing I can recommend is checking _all_ of your email accounts for emails for Mojang
#1336 [14:09] <Rikairchy> you can use any site basically
#1337 [14:09] <RG365> yes
#1338 [14:09] <RG365> Oh
#1339 [14:09] <Rikairchy> isup.me
#1340 [14:09] <Rikairchy> iirc
#1341 [14:09] <Bear> i am doing that
#1342 [14:09] <Rikairchy> but i can login fine
#1343 [14:09] <Grim_Reaper> [20:09] <@DopeGhoti> Bear: the only thing I can recommend is checking _all_ of your email accounts for emails for Mojang
#1344 [14:10] <Grim_Reaper> Or waiting for a reply from mojang
#1345 [14:10] <Bear> you mean like search for the word Mojang?
#1346 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Bear: that might do the trick.
#1347 [14:11] <Grim_Reaper> Oh nvm I was replying to umm. whats his face
#1348 [14:11] <Grim_Reaper> [20:09] <@Marc_IRL> There's no such thing as an "alpha code"
#1349 [14:11] <Grim_Reaper> What O_O
#1350 [14:11] <Grim_Reaper> Last I checked..
#1351 [14:11] <Grim_Reaper> Codes bought in alpha
#1352 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: knows not of what ey types.
#1353 [14:11] <Grim_Reaper> Were alpha and would create an alpha account when used
#1354 [14:11] <Grim_Reaper> And beta, etc etc
#1355 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> Exactly correct, Grim_Reaper
#1356 [14:11] <Marc_IRL> nope
#1357 [14:12] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL ask notch
#1358 [14:12] <Grim_Reaper> Now we're scared
#1359 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: [citation needed]
#1360 [14:12] <Grim_Reaper> because alpha codes are quite the thing to have
#1361 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> as Notch specifically stated so when gift codes first became a Thing
#1362 [14:12] <Bear> I found my beta code XD
#1363 [14:12] <Bear> in the prossess
#1364 [14:12] <Marc_IRL> There are no flags on accounts that determine alpha or beta status
#1365 [14:12] <Grim_Reaper> o_O
#1366 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> [citation needed]
#1367 [14:12] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm..
#1368 [14:12] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1369 [14:12] <Bear> man beta doesnt start till the 20th
#1370 [14:12] <Marc_IRL> Citation: my account tools
#1371 [14:12] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL you should check with Notch or Jeb maybe
#1372 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> Because we were told otherwise
#1373 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> indeed.
#1374 [14:13] <Marc_IRL> We -are- talking about Minecraft, and not Scrolls, yes?
#1375 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> By Notch and the others too
#1376 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> Yes.
#1377 [14:13] <Grim_Reaper> Yes minecraft
#1378 [14:13] <Marc_IRL> Someone PM me a code from alpha?
#1379 [14:13] * Grim_Reaper logs in to check
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#1380 [14:14] <Peter_> Hi
#1381 [14:14] <Rikairchy> hi peter
#1382 [14:14] <Marc_IRL> I also checked with Kris within the last month. He said there are no flags for alpha and beta accounts. We -do- have your registration dates.
#1383 [14:14] <Peter_> I'm having a crash when I load the client
#1384 [14:14] <Peter_> Just bought the game
#1385 [14:14] <Rikairchy> any plugins?
#1386 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2337459192/websites-and-gift-codes
#1387 [14:14] <Peter_> here's my crash report - http://pastie.org/4211514
#1388 [14:14] <Marc_IRL> So if we ever needed to distinguish alpha or beta accounts or whatever, we can refer to those.
#1389 [14:14] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1390 [14:14] <Bear> do you also have Emails for accounts?
#1391 [14:14] <Bear> :P
#1392 [14:15] <RG365> Is technic down
#1393 [14:15] <Bear> Rg
#1394 [14:15] <Rikairchy> im confused a bit
#1395 [14:15] <Bear> Just open and close a few times
#1396 [14:15] <Rikairchy> so if you buy codes now
#1397 [14:15] <RG365> kk
#1398 [14:15] <Rikairchy> they are alpha codes?
#1399 [14:15] <Marc_IRL> or gimme a username that has codes on it, I can just pull that
#1400 [14:15] <Rikairchy> oh wait, thats from a year ago >.>
#1401 [14:15] <Rikairchy> shit
#1402 [14:15] <Rikairchy> Marc_IRL: try Rikairchy :3
#1403 [14:15] <DopeGhoti> yeah, a year ago, back when Alpha was a thing.
#1404 [14:15] <Rikairchy> i think I only had beta
#1405 [14:15] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL Grimster101
#1406 [14:16] <DopeGhoti> I palm so much face when people refer to the current release as Beta still.
#1407 [14:16] <Bear> only old people know about alpha XD
#1408 [14:16] <Rikairchy> and I think I only bought it 9 months or so
#1409 [14:16] <Rikairchy> I love how people say "you're only on 1.2.5? I'm using 1.3.3 man"
#1410 [14:16] <Bear> it hasnt been beta since when it turned 1.0 right?
#1411 [14:16] <Marc_IRL> I don't see any codes on Grimster101 >.>
#1412 [14:16] <Marc_IRL> Can you see undredeemed codes at minecraft.net/profile?
#1413 [14:17] <Grim_Reaper> Nope
#1414 [14:17] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL, my account was gifted to me
#1415 [14:17] <Grim_Reaper> It wasn't a code exactly
#1416 [14:17] <Grim_Reaper> But it should.. be an alpha account
#1417 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: I have an unredeemed access code. My IRC nick is my Minecraft account name.
#1418 [14:17] <Marc_IRL> Really? You have a paypal transaction ID assocaited with it.
#1419 [14:17] <DopeGhoti> unredeemed alpha code that is
#1420 [14:18] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL, it was gifted by my friend to me long ago
#1421 [14:18] <Grim_Reaper> She bought it for me using her paypal
#1422 [14:18] <Marc_IRL> So it wasn't "gifted", someone gave you an account
#1423 [14:18] <Grim_Reaper> no no
#1424 [14:18] <Grim_Reaper> There was a gift feature long ago on the site
#1425 [14:18] <Marc_IRL> O_o
#1426 [14:18] <Grim_Reaper> And she used her own account to specify my account
#1427 [14:18] <Grim_Reaper> And thats how it was given to me
#1428 [14:18] <Marc_IRL> That's just semantics
#1429 [14:19] <Marc_IRL> When I think gifting, I think someone bought a code, the other person redeemed a code
#1430 [14:19] <Grim_Reaper> So yeah. technically she bought it for me yes
#1431 [14:19] <Grim_Reaper> I didn't need to redeem any code though as far as I can recall
#1432 [14:19] <Marc_IRL> right
#1433 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: yeah, that's pre-gift-code; the account was bought, not gifted.
#1434 [14:19] <Grim_Reaper> Mhm
#1435 [14:19] <Marc_IRL> DopeGhoti has two gift codes, one of which is unredeemed. Purchased 19 Dec 2010 18:18.
#1436 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> yep, that's the Alpha code
#1437 [14:20] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1438 [14:20] <Marc_IRL> It shows up just like any other code
#1439 [14:20] <Grim_Reaper> But that makes no sense to what we were told =\
#1440 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> IIRC my account itself was Premiumized ~Sep 2010
#1441 [14:20] <Peter_> Sorry don't want to seem needy but did anyone see my crash report?
#1442 [14:20] <Rikairchy> Marc_IRL check miiiiiiiiiiine
#1443 [14:20] <Grim_Reaper> Peter_ sorry nope. Whats your issue?
#1444 [14:20] <DopeGhoti> Grim_Reaper: well, they still have the purchase date, so if there ever is content released that's only free for Alpha users, it can still be done
#1445 [14:20] <Marc_IRL> DopeGhoti Upgraded 2010-Sep-22
#1446 [14:21] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti yeah
#1447 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: how's that for memory? (:
#1448 [14:21] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1449 [14:21] <Peter_> Grim_Reaper, just bought Minecraft. When I load the client it just crashes and I get an error notepad
#1450 [14:21] <Peter_> http://pastie.org/4211514
#1451 [14:21] <Grim_Reaper> I think I got my account somewhere near sept
#1452 [14:21] <Marc_IRL> I think I bought my account the day Minecraft went beta, heh
#1453 [14:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> Peter_ java/1.7
#1454 [14:21] <VoxelHead> Peter_: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#1455 [14:21] <Marc_IRL> Grim_Reaper: Upgraded 2010-Dec-06
#1456 [14:22] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah my account was made around sept I think
#1457 [14:22] <Grim_Reaper> I played classic first \o/
#1458 [14:22] <Marc_IRL> Registered 2010-Jul-17
#1459 [14:22] <Grim_Reaper> Oh july :D
#1460 [14:23] <Grim_Reaper> But all in all. Im curious as to why accounts dont have any flags for alpha/beta etc
#1461 [14:24] <Marc_IRL> So, there isn't anything to distinguish an alpha, beta, or standard account, other than the purchase date. At this time, we don't plan to release any alpha only content. The deal was that if there was any paid DLC in the future, those users would get it for free. But -everyone- has been getting updates for free, and we've gotten some crap from alpha/beta users who are upset by that for some reason.
#1462 [14:24] <Marc_IRL> If it ever becomes an issue, we can look at it. Notch made that post before I was hired or these account tools were even created, but we can always see the code's purchase date.
#1463 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: For the record, I am totoally not upset that the current updates have been free-for-all
#1464 [14:25] <Marc_IRL> I think it's awesome when a game company keeps developing for free
#1465 [14:25] <DopeGhoti> I concur
#1466 [14:25] <Peter_> Grim_Reaper, ok I uninstalled java 7 and installed latest version of java 6 but same issue - http://pastie.org/4211577
#1467 [14:26] <DopeGhoti> I was imagining any Paid Minecraft DLC to be things like completely new game modes, or in-client access to the terrain generator, etc.
#1468 [14:26] <Marc_IRL> But sometimes I get emails from people who are all "why didn't we get special content?". -That- wasn't ever stated. Also, the people who email us, demanding pocket edition and xbox 360 edition for free.
#1469 [14:26] <Marc_IRL> I had some guy the other day ask when those would be in the mail. Not that we had his address, or sell physical copies of either of those games.
#1470 [14:27] <Peter_> lol
#1471 [14:27] <Marc_IRL> DopeGhoti: If Minecraft keeps selling 10,000 copies a day, they can keep paying developers to generate content until it no longer makes sense to do so
#1472 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL, I dont feel pc people should be allowed to have pocket edition and xbox for free. It makes sense not to since those are kinda different to the pc version
#1473 [14:28] <Grim_Reaper> Peter_, make sure you uninstall java 7 entirely. Then restart your computer.
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#1475 [14:28] <Peter_> ok, didn't restart
#1476 [14:29] <Peter_> will brb if it doesn't work :)
#1477 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> Then download java version 6 in the previous versions,. If you're running 64bit windows
#1478 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> Make sure you install both the 32 bit and 64bit
#1479 [14:29] <Peter_> okies
#1480 [14:29] <Peter_> cheers, brb
#1481 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> Also make sure your graphics card drivers are up to date
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#1483 [14:29] <Grim_Reaper> ?? windows/update
#1484 [14:29] <Marc_IRL> Hence why I had to create this article http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/600767-purchases-made-during-alpha
#1485 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> ?? win/gpu/update
#1486 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> gah what was it
#1487 [14:30] <Grim_Reaper> ?? index
#1488 [14:30] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1489 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> ??< win/gpuz
#1490 [14:31] <Grim_Reaper> ??< win/profile
#1491 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> ?? windows/driverupdate
#1492 [14:32] <VoxelHead> windows/driverupdate: Windows cannot update your Graphics Drivers from device manager. You need to visit your video card manufacturer's website such as nvidia.com or amd.com to obtain driver updates for your video card.
#1493 [14:32] <Grim_Reaper> Can somebody add that def to the index
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#1495 [14:35] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: Well, like I said, that was the type of thing I thought I might be getting, maybe, at some point. I have no bones to pick whatsoever about all the condinued free-to-all-paid development. I was just nonplussed when it appeared that there was no way to differentiate so-called Alpha accounts from others
#1496 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> but since that is not the case, we're back to no pickable bones. Keep doind what you're doing (:
#1497 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1498 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> Im just curious whether those plans were canceled then
#1499 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> I wont complain if they are. Im just wondering now lol
#1500 [14:36] <DopeGhoti> As I parse it, not so much 'cancelled' as 'not yet implemented'
#1501 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1502 [14:36] <Grim_Reaper> Well if you think about it DopeGhoti..
#1503 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> Also, a wise main once said, a plan's just a list of sh[bleep]t that doesn't happen.
#1504 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> In a way. Notch did state that all codes used from the alpha ones, would create an alpha account
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#1506 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> So yeah
#1507 [14:37] <DopeGhoti> Also, no expansions to MC were ever gauranteed.
#1508 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> But Im guessing those plans fell through :p
#1509 [14:37] <Marc_IRL> I think that when it was one person developing the game, and a few thousand buying it, things looked a lot different than when there were 30 people in the company and 9 million peple played.
#1510 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#1511 [14:37] <Grim_Reaper> Either way Im not really phased by it
#1512 [14:37] <Marc_IRL> Like, even the site/network architecture and stuff
#1513 [14:38] <Peter_> Grim_Reaper, got both versions of Java 6, restarted still not working :p
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#1515 [14:38] <Marc_IRL> I think everything worked out fine, and no one has actually been slighted by this
#1516 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> Peter_ Tried updating your graphics drivers?
#1517 [14:38] <Peter_> up to date
#1518 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL, there are some who raged
#1519 [14:38] <Grim_Reaper> Peter_ did you check the actual website, or device manager?
#1520 [14:38] <Peter_> Laptop is only a couple of months old
#1521 [14:38] <Peter_> device manager
#1522 [14:39] <Grim_Reaper> ?? windows/driverupdate
#1523 [14:39] <VoxelHead> windows/driverupdate: Windows cannot update your Graphics Drivers from device manager. You need to visit your video card manufacturer's website such as nvidia.com or amd.com to obtain driver updates for your video card.
#1524 [14:39] <Marc_IRL> There's nothing to rage about, though
#1525 [14:39] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL some people rage cause they want extra stuff that only alpha people can get :p
#1526 [14:39] <Peter_> I will check intel's site
#1527 [14:39] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, and I want a pony
#1528 [14:39] <Grim_Reaper> And again some of them want these "alpha" capes etc
#1529 [14:39] <Grim_Reaper> Mmm ponies \o/
#1530 [14:39] <Grim_Reaper> Tigger is ~grim@i.eat.people.pony.thrust.mooo.com * shroudBNC User
#1531 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> My bnc :3
#1532 [14:40] <Marc_IRL> People want capes for everything. There were volunteers at the getsatisfaction forums who helped minecraft users, but never talked or coordinated to us, who -demanded- (their words, not mine) capes for everyone
#1533 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1534 [14:40] <Marc_IRL> I have a few ideas on how I'd like the capes system to work out, but that's up to the devs.
#1535 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> indeed
#1536 [14:40] <Grim_Reaper> I wouldn't mind having a cape. They were fun to wear on Christmas and such
#1537 [14:40] <Marc_IRL> If I get my way, though, there will be some kind of community helper cape that I can give out to people I think are awesome
#1538 [14:41] <Grim_Reaper> Oh yay
#1539 [14:41] <Peter_> Grim_Reaper, up to date
#1540 [14:41] <Grim_Reaper> Ok Peter_. I want you to do the following
#1541 [14:41] <Peter_> k
#1542 [14:41] <Grim_Reaper> ??> Peter_ win/dxdiag
#1543 [14:41] <VoxelHead> Peter_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1544 [14:41] <VoxelHead> Peter_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1545 [14:41] <Grim_Reaper> Also just so we know
#1546 [14:42] <Grim_Reaper> This is your first time playing minecraft?
#1547 [14:42] <Grim_Reaper> You've never been able to play it?
#1548 [14:42] <Peter_> mmhm
#1549 [14:42] <Peter_> first time i've tried
#1550 [14:42] <Grim_Reaper> Oky
#1551 [14:42] <Grim_Reaper> Follow those instructions from VoxelHead and we'll see if we can help further
#1552 [14:43] <Peter_> cool
#1553 [14:43] <Peter_> DXDIAG - http://pastie.org/4211663
#1554 [14:43] <Peter_> woops
#1555 [14:43] <Peter_> that didn't need to be caps :L
#1556 [14:43] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1557 [14:43] <Grim_Reaper> K gimmie a sec
#1558 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Ahhh ok I found your issue I think
#1559 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Display Memory: 1696 MB
#1560 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Dedicated Memory: 64 MB
#1561 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> You need more dedicated memory than that to run minecraft
#1562 [14:44] <xales> Grim_Reaper: Driver is the problem
#1563 [14:44] <xales> It'll "run"
#1564 [14:44] <xales> with latest driver
#1565 [14:44] <xales> but not very well.
#1566 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> xales 64MB's?
#1567 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Also he already tried updating
#1568 [14:44] <Peter_> hmm
#1569 [14:44] <xales> Grim_Reaper: It will steal RAM
#1570 [14:44] <Grim_Reaper> Everything is up to date
#1571 [14:44] <Peter_> anything I can do the make more dedicated memory?
#1572 [14:44] <xales> Oh, a Satellite C660?
#1573 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> You need a better video card
#1574 [14:45] <xales> That's the known-problem one.
#1575 [14:45] <Peter_> to make*
#1576 [14:45] <xales> Grim_Reaper: Wait.
#1577 [14:45] <xales> Known problem with this model. :p
#1578 [14:45] * Grim_Reaper waits
#1578 [14:45] <Peter_> grah
#1579 [14:45] <Peter_> I bought an i3
#1580 [14:45] <Peter_> for SW:tor
#1581 [14:45] <Peter_> and WoW
#1582 [14:45] <xales> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12.html
#1583 [14:45] <xales> Grim_Reaper: ^
#1584 [14:45] <Peter_> and I can't run Minecraft :L
#1585 [14:46] <xales> Peter_: Follow these instructions.
#1586 [14:46] <xales> http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1587 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> Peter_ http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1588 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> Lol xales
#1589 [14:47] <Grim_Reaper> Also xales I thought you needed more than 64MB's of dedicated memory to run minecraft
#1590 [14:47] <Grim_Reaper> Going by previous people who came in and had similiar specs
#1591 [14:47] <xales> Grim_Reaper: You do, however
#1592 [14:47] <xales> It steals RAM
#1593 [14:47] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah I know that much :p
#1594 [14:47] <xales> This is so slow it's not even funny
#1595 [14:47] <xales> but it does "work"
#1596 [14:48] <xales> in that Minecraft will "run"
#1597 [14:48] <xales> under 20FPS, likely, but it will still...sort of...work
#1598 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1599 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> I remember trying to play cod4 on my laptop when it came out
#1600 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> I was lucky if I could get 5FPS
#1601 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> On lowest settings ~
#1602 [14:49] <xales> :o
#1603 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> The card rendered everything beautifully
#1604 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> But it was just too slow to actually do it efficiantly
#1605 [14:51] * Grim_Reaper listens to nothing but the crickets as silence fills the channel
#1605 [14:51] * xales hugs Grim_Reaper
#1605 [14:51] * Grim_Reaper hugs back
#1605 [14:52] <Grim_Reaper> And thus.. #minecrafthelp went quiet
#1606 [14:54] <Boreeas> Nothing new on the #minecrafthelp front
#1607 [14:54] <Boreeas> All quiet, I mean
#1608 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1609 [14:56] <NinjaKirby> inb4 Explosion of issues when v1.3 hits
#1610 [14:56] <xales> of course
#1611 [14:57] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1612 [14:57] <DopeGhoti> fortunately, recentupdate is still a FAQ.
#1613 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> Can I officially propose that, when 1.3 comes out with a built-in demo mode, we no longer support Classic?
#1614 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti..
#1615 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> I would like to say yes..
#1616 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> But I can see great butthurt happening
#1617 [14:58] <Grim_Reaper> Over the classic players
#1618 [14:58] <DopeGhoti> Some folks will need to wipe and move on then.
#1619 [14:58] <Boreeas> I thought we already stopped officially supporting classic
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#1621 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> not least since we have Creative now, and a demo, albiet a not-built-in one
#1622 [14:59] <Boreeas> As with mods, if someone can help, the do, but it's nothing official
#1623 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1624 [14:59] <DopeGhoti> Supporting Classic is like offering tech support for Windows 3.0 at this point.
#1625 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#1626 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> Alright then
#1627 [14:59] <Rikairchy> i wouldnt go that far
#1628 [14:59] <Grim_Reaper> I'll stand by your proposal
#1629 [14:59] <Peter_> xalex, Grim_Reaper, working fine now tyvm :)
#1630 [14:59] <Rikairchy> maybe Windows 95
#1631 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> Just put the ring on my finger
#1632 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> Peter_ glad.
#1633 [15:00] <Peter_> xales*
#1634 [15:00] <Grim_Reaper> xales you get one cookie <3
#1635 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> !topic /4/support/support Classic or/
#1636 [15:00] <Rikairchy> he'd rather a lapdance, I'm sure
#1637 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> !topic /2/\.//
#1638 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#1639 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> I.. don't see the change.
#1640 [15:01] <Rikairchy> there isnt one
#1641 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> I do
#1642 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> It's ever so slight
#1643 [15:01] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Erm
#1644 [15:01] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Your broke it
#1645 [15:01] <Rikairchy> isgd and is.gd
#1646 [15:01] <Rikairchy> only thing i saw different
#1647 [15:01] <Boreeas> That's what was changed, yes
#1648 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1649 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> !topic /2/isgd/is.gd
#1650 [15:02] <Boreeas> Missing closing /
#1651 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> !topic /2/isgd/is.gd/
#1652 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1653 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> Milkshakes
#1654 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> !topic /2/G3.*/G3zPKi/
#1655 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> all that to take the '.' out of the URL
#1656 [15:02] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti mIRC <3
#1657 [15:02] <Boreeas> :P
#1658 [15:03] <DopeGhoti> mIRC is evil.
#1659 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> I vote Boreeas gets op
#1660 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> In here
#1661 [15:03] <Grim_Reaper> So he can ban me when I misbehave which is like. Every day
#1662 [15:03] <Boreeas> :P
#1663 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> ^Is extremely happy
#1664 [15:04] <Boreeas> I'm not sure if our relationship is far enough for that step
#1665 [15:04] <Rikairchy> kinky
#1666 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> We have a relationship o.o
#1667 [15:04] <Grim_Reaper> Goodlawd
#1668 [15:04] <Rikairchy> relations =/= relationship, Boreeas
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#1670 [15:05] <tyteen4a03> I think relationship can mean a lot of things
#1671 [15:05] <tyteen4a03> including being on a ship called relation
#1672 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> Yes, yes it can
#1673 [15:05] <Rikairchy> a way to link to a server in minecraft
#1674 [15:05] <tyteen4a03> I also have a relationship with GreyBot
#1675 [15:05] <tyteen4a03> and Grim_Reaper
#1676 [15:05] <Rikairchy> like minecraft://server.url:65525
#1677 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#1678 [15:06] * Grim_Reaper hugs tyteen4a03
#1678 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: done, by WoM
#1679 [15:06] * tyteen4a03 hugs Grim_Reaper
#1679 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: that's very simple to do, actually
#1680 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> :D
#1681 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti can Boreeas haz op
#1682 [15:06] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 y u no active on othernet
#1683 [15:06] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1684 [15:06] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: othernet = freenode, stormbit, archivesmc, CollectiveIRC, Rizon, synIRC?
#1685 [15:06] <Rikairchy> dont makee me stalk you
#1686 [15:06] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: Do you solemnly promise to use your twirly magic @ powers only for good, and not for ill?
#1687 [15:07] <Boreeas> Yes, I do.
#1688 [15:07] <Rikairchy> the only one of those that you listed that is actually decent
#1689 [15:07] * DopeGhoti twirls his magic @
#1689 [15:07] <Rikairchy> SBit ofc
#1690 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> WEEE
#1691 [15:07] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: freenode?
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#1693 [15:07] * Boreeas throws flower bouqet
#1693 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> Now watch the +b's rolling in
#1694 [15:07] <Boreeas> \o/
#1695 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1696 [15:07] * tyteen4a03 catches flower bouqet
#1696 [15:07] <xales> hmm
#1697 [15:07] <Boreeas> Thanks, DopeGhoti :D
#1698 [15:07] <xales> what flags do I have in here, anyway
#1699 [15:07] <xales> !why
#1700 [15:07] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03: http://rikairchy.net/pics/zorua.jpg
#1701 [15:07] <xales> er
#1702 [15:07] <Grim_Reaper> fail xales
#1703 [15:07] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: lol filename
#1704 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> xales: M|+o on Vox, and.. ask ChanServ yorself.
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#1706 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> !flags
#1707 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> !flags
#1708 [15:08] <Boreeas> !flags
#1709 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> HA
#1710 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh I don thave access
#1711 [15:08] <xales> No fantasy in here.
#1712 [15:08] <Boreeas> Damn
#1713 [15:08] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 i did that on purpose
#1714 [15:08] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: I'll have to intruduce you to Vox's backchannel later on
#1715 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: oh
#1716 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> okay\
#1717 [15:08] <Grim_Reaper> [21:08] -ChanServ- 26 Boreeas +AV (TheNytangel) [modified 1 year, 7 weeks, 3 days, 21:25:29 ago]
#1718 [15:08] <xales> 15:08:38 -!- BotServ (BotServ@services.esper.net): You are not authorized to assign bots on #MineCraftHelp.
#1719 [15:08] <Rikairchy> that way it beeps him
#1720 [15:08] <xales> Oh well.
#1721 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> http://legacy.cubeupload-dev.com/files/ffa000minenowmylord.png evony minecraft style with notch
#1722 [15:09] <Boreeas> Grim_Reaper: Coincidentally, my nick is registered since 1 year, 7 weeks and 4 days :P
#1723 [15:09] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: he is ok to me, but can be a bit annoying
#1724 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> XP
#1725 [15:09] <Rikairchy> hah
#1726 [15:10] <Rikairchy> you dont spend enough time with him
#1727 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> so he is a lot annoying?
#1728 [15:10] <Rikairchy> very
#1729 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> ok
#1730 [15:10] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 where are you from?
#1731 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> Hong Kong
#1732 [15:10] <Rikairchy> mucus was there
#1733 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> not that I blend in sting's conversations anyways
#1734 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> so was Zours
#1735 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> *Zoura
#1736 [15:10] <Rikairchy> and zorua has been there as weell
#1737 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> just a few weeks ago
#1738 [15:10] <Rikairchy> na just participate
#1739 [15:10] * xales be back later
#1739 [15:10] <Rikairchy> we'll like ya
#1740 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> by xales
#1741 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> DopeGhoti do I get to see VoxelHead's super secret channel ever :o?
#1742 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: I hope :|
#1743 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper: the only super secret channel I can think of is #gtfo
#1744 [15:11] <Grim_Reaper> lol tyteen4a03
#1745 [15:12] <Boreeas> Also, #channel
#1746 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1747 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> There are other secret places..
#1748 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> But I shall not name them
#1749 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> such as #clop
#1750 [15:12] <Rikairchy> like #pants ?
#1751 [15:12] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1752 [15:12] <Boreeas> There be dragons
#1753 [15:17] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: ok I spoke up
#1754 [15:18] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL?
#1755 [15:19] <Marc_IRL> ?
#1756 [15:19] <Grim_Reaper> Are you currently in the mojang office?
#1757 [15:21] * Altair [Altair@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1758 [15:21] <Altair> hi all i just wanted to clear the air about something that came up last time i was on here
#1759 [15:22] <Grim_Reaper> Altair sure whats up
#1760 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper: mojang hired more people?
#1761 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> except the bukkit team
#1762 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> tyteen4a03 Marc_IRL = account support issues as far as Im aware
#1763 [15:23] <Grim_Reaper> He's not exactly new per say
#1764 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> if he was hired in the last 6 months, he's new to me
#1765 [15:23] <tyteen4a03> or my memory's just bad :P
#1766 [15:23] <Marc_IRL> I'm from the US, currently in Los Angeles, but usually in Seattle. Hired in January.
#1767 [15:23] <Altair> well last time i came on i was accused of pirating the minecraft game
#1768 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh oky
#1769 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: do you have another name that might be more widely recognized?
#1770 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> I thought mojang only offered jobs if they live in sweden
#1771 [15:24] <tyteen4a03> ^
#1772 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> Altair I see
#1773 [15:24] <Marc_IRL> No https://twitter.com/Marc_IRL
#1774 [15:24] <Grim_Reaper> And what is your minecraft username?
#1775 [15:24] <Marc_IRL> We have several people working around the world who aren't in Sweden
#1776 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> well, I guess it's my memory then :P nice to meet you anyway
#1777 [15:25] <Altair> i have recently found out that my friend had payed for a code for me
#1778 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> Ahh thats interesting
#1779 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL, I wouldn't mind working for Mojang then :p
#1780 [15:25] <Marc_IRL> My username is MidnightEnforcer, but it will be Marc once we start deleting old unused accounts
#1781 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> As fun as it might be to move to Sweden..
#1782 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL I was asking Altair :p But ok :3
#1783 [15:25] <tyteen4a03> old unused free account?
#1784 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> Wait are you deleting unused accounts?
#1785 [15:25] <Marc_IRL> It's hard to keep track of these conversations!
#1786 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> All non premium helping?
#1787 [15:25] <Grim_Reaper> accounts*
#1788 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> I cant think straight
#1789 [15:26] <Marc_IRL> Someday, we'll delete non premium accounts. We'll give lots of notice.
#1790 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> Fair enough :p
#1791 [15:26] <Marc_IRL> Need to free up those unused usernames for people who want to buy them
#1792 [15:26] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#1793 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> Well I guess that definitely means you cant sell used notch tissues :<
#1794 [15:27] <Marc_IRL> I mean, like, the username Poop. Who wouldn't want that? Registered June 2009, and not premium.
#1795 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#1796 [15:27] <tyteen4a03> I own these users: like a boss, _server, __server
#1797 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> I wish I had made my minecraft username Grimmycakes
#1798 [15:27] <Marc_IRL> I wish mine was Herobrine. I could scare the shit outta some kids.
#1799 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> Haha
#1800 [15:27] <Marc_IRL> But that's taken, and premium too
#1801 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> Theres a user with that
#1802 [15:27] <Grim_Reaper> mhm
#1803 [15:27] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper: If they're hiring people overseas, we could apply :P
#1804 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> I would apply for support emails
#1805 [15:28] <Marc_IRL> I'm unaware of any openings right now
#1806 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> I've done that previously for a hosting company
#1807 [15:28] <Grim_Reaper> So Im sure I could do it just fine :3
#1808 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: nah, just talking
#1809 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> I'm chinese and you're in africa
#1810 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> but I don
#1811 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> but I don't have experience, sadly
#1812 [15:28] <tyteen4a03> where do you get jobs like this anyways?
#1813 [15:29] <Grim_Reaper> I wish Mojang supported username changes :<
#1814 [15:30] <Grim_Reaper> I would totally be Grimmycakes \o/
#1815 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> they do, if you have spaces in your username
#1816 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> I probably am the only guy who still has space in a username
#1817 [15:30] <geraldbrent> Maybe do it like Microsoft and make you pay for username changes.
#1818 [15:30] <mucus> hi Rikairchy
#1819 [15:30] * poisinvypyr [poisinvypyr@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1820 [15:30] <Grim_Reaper> lol I dont have any spaces
#1821 [15:30] <Grim_Reaper> Grimster101 = mine
#1822 [15:30] <mucus> hi tyteen4a03
#1823 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> hi mucus
#1824 [15:31] <mucus> i am unsure why i was brought up
#1825 [15:31] <mucus> but here i am
#1826 [15:31] <tyteen4a03> because you visited hong kong lately, and Rikairchy asked me where I come from and I said hong kong
#1827 [15:32] <poisinvypyr> So i installed (i think) the technic pack mod onto my computer, i ran it, typed in my username and password, and then it said minecraft crashed, do i need to install more mods or is something else up?
#1828 [15:32] <mucus> ah
#1829 [15:32] <mucus> what parta hk?
#1830 [15:32] <poisinvypyr> were you talking to me?
#1831 [15:32] <mucus> if oyu don't mind my asking
#1832 [15:32] <Calinou> poisinvypyr, we do not support mods
#1833 [15:33] <tyteen4a03> we can however show you how to restore minecraft back to stock
#1834 [15:33] <Calinou> use the normal launcher.
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#1836 [15:33] <Calinou> technic pack uses a different launcher, different home location
#1837 [15:34] <Calinou> (as long as you've used technic launcher)
#1838 [15:34] <poisinvypyr> Yea, i have the technic launcher downloaded, do i need something else too?
#1839 [15:34] <Calinou> no
#1840 [15:34] <Calinou> we do not support mods here
#1841 [15:35] <Calinou> to fix it, use the normal launcher
#1842 [15:35] <Calinou> if you use mods, you're on your own; fix it yourself or don't use them; these are also unsupported by mojang
#1843 [15:36] <poisinvypyr> I went on minecraft.com, looked at help, and clicked on a link to a chat for mod help...?
#1844 [15:36] <Boreeas> Does that in turn mean that we will support mods once the mod API is released?
#1845 [15:36] <poisinvypyr> And this is where i wound up.
#1846 [15:37] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: to an extend, I think so
#1847 [15:37] <tyteen4a03> but we'd probably be redirecting development to another channel I'd guess
#1848 [15:37] <Marc_IRL> I'd like username changes. Dunno when that will happen though. It's a web developer project.
#1849 [15:38] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: it doesn't sound that hard, unless minecraft have ridiculous database designs
#1850 [15:38] <Marc_IRL> People always say things don't sound hard
#1851 [15:38] <Marc_IRL> It's also a matter of priorities. Getting Mojang accounts working were a bigger priority than cosmetic changes like username changes.
#1852 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> oh right, Mojang accounts... I am really out of the loop
#1853 [15:41] <tyteen4a03> but the username change thing should still take much less time than to get Mojang accounts working... are you guys trying to do SSO?
#1854 [15:41] <Marc_IRL> Dunno what that is
#1855 [15:42] <tyteen4a03> single sign-on
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#1857 [15:42] <Marc_IRL> That would be Mojang accounts
#1858 [15:42] <NinjaKirby> Acronyms are all the rage these days
#1859 [15:42] <tyteen4a03> I see why it's hard then
#1860 [15:42] <Marc_IRL> You use your email to log into all of our services
#1861 [15:42] <NinjaKirby> Wait, I meant to say, AAATRTD
#1862 [15:42] <Marc_IRL> So, some of the changes that people wanted for Minecraft had to wait until Mojang accounts anyway
#1863 [15:42] <cmckain> Help, my guy in Minecraft is sideways in some worlds.
#1864 [15:43] <Marc_IRL> Eventually, you'll be able to buy Minecraft through Mojang.com. Maybe only there, I'm unsure.
#1865 [15:43] <Marc_IRL> Hopefully though. A single profile for all of our games would be awesome.
#1866 [15:43] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: sounds like the plan to go, and pretty challenging because of the existing base
#1867 [15:43] <tyteen4a03> cmckain: Sideways?
#1868 [15:44] <cmckain> Yeah, sideways and red.
#1869 [15:44] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, it's not like we have a few hundred users nowadays, lol
#1870 [15:44] <NinjaKirby> Like the final frame of the dead animation locked in place
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#1872 [15:45] <Marc_IRL> If you've been away for a while... https://twitter.com/Marc_IRL/status/210576983405510657
#1873 [15:45] <Izzy> Wow, I was struck by the classic 10053, I love IRC
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#1878 [15:46] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: looks cool
#1879 [15:46] <tyteen4a03> Izzy: Classic 10053?
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#1883 [15:47] <cmckain> It makes moving very hard.
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#1885 [15:48] <Boreeas> cmckain: On a server or single player?
#1886 [15:48] <cmckain> Single Player
#1887 [15:50] <Boreeas> Did you try restarting minecraft?
#1888 [15:50] <cmckain> Yes
#1889 [15:51] <Izzy> tyteen4a03: It's the typical disconnection error displayed in mIRC. Apparently a very broad error message for a variety of situations, which doesn't really tell you anything (apparently). Except for that fact you are screwed and need to reconnect.
#1890 [15:51] <Doylj> i had 3 mods, then i downloaded the mo'creatures mod. 2 of my mods wouldn't work anymore after installing it. I tried to reinstall them and then i got a blackscreen. any ideas (sorry if my english is not good, im Portuguese)
#1891 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> Izzy: ah
#1892 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> I thought it only happened to me
#1893 [15:52] <tyteen4a03> Doylj: The third mod you are installiong conflicts with the first 2 mod
#1894 [15:52] <tyteen4a03> *installing
#1895 [15:52] <Izzy> Oh, I'm in here as Izzy, oopsie daisie
#1896 [15:52] <Doylj> anthing i can do?
#1897 [15:52] <cmckain> What should I do?
#1898 [15:52] <tyteen4a03> Doylj: You can restore minecraft to the default status, and install the 2 mods again
#1899 [15:52] <Doylj> i meant is there anything i can do to make the mods not conflict?
#1900 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> Doylj: You will have to ask the mod's author about this problem
#1901 [15:53] <Doylj> thank you
#1902 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> Doylj: you can also try installing it the second time, and make sure you followed all instructions
#1903 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> chances are you installed it wrongly
#1904 [15:54] <Doylj> the two mods worked fine before i nstalled the third
#1905 [15:54] <Doylj> and the third worked good as well
#1906 [15:54] <cmckain> What should I do?
#1907 [15:54] <Doylj> its just that when i installed the third the first 2 stopped working
#1908 [15:54] <tyteen4a03> Doylj: there might be file conflicts, or you didn't install it correctly
#1909 [15:54] <Doylj> thank you,
#1910 [15:54] <Doylj> thank you,
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#1912 [15:54] <tyteen4a03> cmckain: I think Boreeas is trying to find a solution
#1913 [15:54] <gerzel> Q How do I get the network icon to come up in the notifications area?
#1914 [15:55] <cmckain> Thank you
#1915 [15:55] <tyteen4a03> meanwhile try pressing m+n
#1916 [15:55] <gerzel> It's dissapeared and I need to switch to using a vpn connection
#1917 [15:56] <Boreeas> I think I heard of the problem before, but I can't remember how it was solved
#1918 [15:56] <tyteen4a03> gerzel: I'm not sure what you're talking about so I can't help, sorry
#1919 [15:56] <cmckain> Cause it is really hurting my ability to play Minecraft
#1920 [15:56] <Boreeas> gerzel: Are your talking about IRC clients?
#1921 [15:57] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: xchat ubuntu
#1922 [15:57] <gerzel> No. IN the notificatoin area, there is usually an icon for the network connection for my computer. It isn't there.
#1923 [15:57] <gerzel> not IRC but the network itself
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#1925 [15:57] <Boreeas> gerzel: Try #ubuntu on freenode
#1926 [15:57] <gerzel> ok.
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#1928 [15:58] <Boreeas> cmckain: What happens when you die again in that world?
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#1932 [16:01] <Jamesfle> can you tell me the next step when ive tried all the Q+As on Mojang.com and still i cannot login or change my password. Im also getting no response for weeks now from my help ticket.
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#1934 [16:03] <cmckain> It worked, thanks.
#1935 [16:03] <Boreeas> Great.
#1936 [16:06] <Marc_IRL> Jamesfle: What error are you getting?
#1937 [16:06] <Jamesfle> when i login it tells me ive been migrated... even though i never remember migrating
#1938 [16:07] <Marc_IRL> Have you tried logging in with your email and password?
#1939 [16:07] <Marc_IRL> Or did you have a really easy to guess password, and someone else migrated it for you?
#1940 [16:07] <Jamesfle> yes
#1941 [16:08] <Jamesfle> shouldnt have been easy, it had numbers, caps and letters
#1942 [16:08] <Marc_IRL> What's the username?
#1943 [16:08] <Jamesfle> same <---
#1944 [16:08] <Jamesfle> Jamesfle
#1945 [16:09] <Marc_IRL> The migrated email address doesn't match the original, and if you don't remember doing it, someone else may have.
#1946 [16:09] <Jamesfle> but when i goto password reset... the email never appears and its not in the spam box
#1947 [16:09] <Marc_IRL> Because it's going to the email address on file, which is probably not yours
#1948 [16:10] <Marc_IRL> PM me the email address that you used to contact support?
#1949 [16:10] <Jamesfle> i used the ticket service on Mojang.com
#1950 [16:10] <Marc_IRL> Yes, and it asks you for a contact email
#1951 [16:11] <Jamesfle> ahhhh think i said id been through 3 emails since i bough it
#1952 [16:11] <Marc_IRL> I need to know the address so I can search for your email. Also, replies from support will go to the email that you entered.
#1953 [16:11] <Jamesfle> and it was on James.fle@dsl.pipex.com or something like that years ago
#1954 [16:12] <Marc_IRL> No help tickets from that email
#1955 [16:12] <Jamesfle> i searched the user myself... and it said, Jamesef@sky.com it was linked too
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#1957 [16:12] <Jamesfle> my current email is Jamesfle@btinternet.com
#1958 [16:12] <Marc_IRL> That's what I needed
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#1960 [16:13] <Marc_IRL> Do you still have access to Jamesef@sky.com?
#1961 [16:13] <Jamesfle> yes, i tried again today to get the password reset
#1962 [16:13] <Jamesfle> still nothing appeared
#1963 [16:14] <Marc_IRL> Again, that's because the password reset is going to the email address on file, which is whomever's address that migrated the account for you
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#1965 [16:14] <Jamesfle> i see... i wondered if someone else did it
#1966 [16:14] <Jamesfle> :o(
#1967 [16:14] <Marc_IRL> I can set it back to the original address on file without verifying that you own the account, since it's just reverting the email
#1968 [16:15] <Jamesfle> Jamesef@sky.com ???
#1969 [16:15] <Marc_IRL> yes
#1970 [16:15] <Jamesfle> ok yay
#1971 [16:15] <Marc_IRL> You'll need to log into minecraft.net, mojang.com, and the game with your email and password. You'll need to request a password reset email again, but this time it will go to your email.
#1972 [16:15] <Jamesfle> ty, finally a result
#1973 [16:16] <Jamesfle> ok will do...
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#1976 [16:29] <Jamesfle> ty again, ive changed pw, and email, etc etc... ive logged in for the 1st time in months! Account stealing watsits lol
#1977 [16:32] <Thrae> This should be linked in the Voxel KB -- https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm
#1978 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> Btw, if anyone can figure out how someone else migrates your account, let me know. Maybe it was when we first offered migration and had less security? It's rare, but annoying.
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#1980 [16:32] <Thrae> Concerning passwords.
#1981 [16:33] <NeutronRocks> What need to be linked... and what Voxel KB?
#1982 [16:33] <NeutronRocks> needs*
#1983 [16:33] <Marc_IRL> Thrae: Or this: http://xkcd.com/936/
#1984 [16:34] <NeutronRocks> oh, voxelhead
#1985 [16:34] <Thrae> Marc_IRL: I seem to recall that there have been, in the past, parts of the PHP exposed and also old accounts that have improper migration flags
#1986 [16:34] <NeutronRocks> nvm
#1987 [16:34] <Marc_IRL> Well, migrated accounts should all be in order now, and I can fix accounts that have issues.
#1988 [16:34] <Thrae> Marc_IRL: Even better -- http://www.explainxkcd.com/2011/08/10/
#1989 [16:35] <Marc_IRL> I never knew that site existed, haha
#1990 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> And it even links to the password tester
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#1992 [16:36] <Thrae> Yep! I learned about it last year. *Very* useful, as I'm not a physics major nor really at the level of enthusiasm as Randall.
#1993 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> I like how correcthorsebatterystaple will take 78.30 billion trillion centuries to crack
#1994 [16:37] <Marc_IRL> Apparently my password for everything is complete crap
#1995 [16:38] <Thrae> I like GRC's example, "d0gs............................" is pretty darn safe
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#1997 [16:40] <berrio123> anyone know the avg time it takes for the minecraft Support to reply to emails?
#1998 [16:41] <berrio123> err. guess not. Thats ok
#1999 [16:42] <Marc_IRL> berrio123: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#2003 [16:53] <King_Asa> i need some help can anyone help me
#2004 [16:54] <King_Asa> this is the message i get when i try to dl the game......basic: load: class org.lwjgl.util.applet.AppletLoader not found. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.lwjgl.util.applet.AppletLoader at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass0(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin2.applet.Pl
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#2007 [17:02] <yanza4444> after about a minute of playing, the game freezes.
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#2009 [17:03] <yanza4444> after about a minute of playing, the game freezes
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#2011 [17:07] <yanza4444> after about a minute of playing, the game freezes
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#2013 [17:11] <yanza4444> i just bought the game, and after about a minute if playing, it freezes.
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#2017 [17:27] <Rikairchy> because repeatedly joining/parting
#2018 [17:27] <Rikairchy> and saing the same thing over and over works.
#2019 [17:27] <Rikairchy> especially when waiting for less than ten minutes.
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#2021 [17:28] <sissy> hello
#2022 [17:28] <Rikairchy> hi
#2023 [17:28] <sissy> everytime i open minecraft
#2024 [17:28] <sissy> this comes up
#2025 [17:28] <sissy> <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Address family not supported by protocol family: connect</center></font></body></html>
#2026 [17:29] <Rikairchy> it can't connect to minecraft.net
#2027 [17:29] <Rikairchy> do you have Windows, Mac, or Linux?
#2028 [17:29] <sissy> windows
#2029 [17:29] <sissy> java 7
#2030 [17:29] <Rikairchy> XP, Vista, or 7?
#2031 [17:29] <sissy> 7
#2032 [17:29] <sissy> btw ty
#2033 [17:29] <Rikairchy> any firewalls?
#2034 [17:29] <sissy> no
#2035 [17:29] <sissy> but its really
#2036 [17:29] <sissy> slow
#2037 [17:29] <Rikairchy> the computer?
#2038 [17:29] <sissy> ye
#2039 [17:30] <Rikairchy> ?? sissy ping
#2040 [17:30] * NinjaKirby giggles
#2040 [17:30] <Rikairchy> ......
#2041 [17:30] <Rikairchy> why is there no ping entry.
#2042 [17:30] <sissy> what
#2043 [17:30] <Rikairchy> uh
#2044 [17:30] <sissy> ?
#2045 [17:30] <NinjaKirby> ??> sissy ping
#2046 [17:30] <sissy> ?
#2047 [17:30] <sissy> what do you want me to do
#2048 [17:30] <NinjaKirby> Lerl
#2049 [17:30] <Rikairchy> can you go to minecraft.net
#2050 [17:30] <Rikairchy> in your browser?
#2051 [17:30] <sissy> yeah
#2052 [17:30] <Rikairchy> can you log in?
#2053 [17:30] <Rikairchy> via the game's launcher
#2054 [17:30] <Rikairchy> not through the website
#2055 [17:30] <sissy> yeah
#2056 [17:31] <Rikairchy> have you tried going to minecraft.net/download and redownloading the EXE?
#2057 [17:31] <sissy> but when i click to play a multi player that thingcomes up
#2058 [17:31] <sissy> i'll try doing that
#2059 [17:32] <Rikairchy> when you click to play multipllayer you get that error?
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#2061 [17:32] <sissy> yeah
#2062 [17:33] <Rikairchy> weird...
#2063 [17:33] <sissy> i've done the multiplayer download
#2064 [17:33] <sissy> says its done
#2065 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> That code is due to the IPv6 issue. I have a solution for that
#2066 [17:33] <Rikairchy> step 1: punch DiskDaemon in the face
#2067 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> wha?
#2068 [17:34] <Boreeas> Huh?
#2069 [17:34] <Rikairchy> kidding
#2070 [17:34] <NinjaKirby> que?
#2071 [17:34] <Rikairchy> pasa?
#2072 [17:34] <NinjaKirby> Spaghetti
#2073 [17:34] <sissy> is it hard to sort out
#2074 [17:34] <DiskDaemon> g'morning :)
#2075 [17:34] <Rikairchy> mornin DiskDaemon
#2076 [17:34] <NinjaKirby> DaemonDiskette in da house! WOOP!
#2077 [17:34] <Rikairchy> sissy: shouldnt be
#2078 [17:34] <Rikairchy> DiskDaemon should be DaemonTool
#2079 [17:35] <jacobi1010> i cant get minecraft to download??
#2080 [17:35] <sissy> is demon going to help
#2081 [17:35] <Rikairchy> jacobi1010: do you have windows?
#2082 [17:35] <Rikairchy> sissy: you downloaded this right?: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#2083 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> yep, just waking up the computer
#2084 [17:35] <Rikairchy> wake it up faster
#2085 [17:35] <Rikairchy> shoot a load of espresso in its ethernet port
#2086 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> Here's the apge with info about the issue, and how to fix it. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#2087 [17:36] <sissy> it did nothing rik
#2088 [17:36] <Rikairchy> DiskDaemon are you sure its an IPv6 issue?
#2089 [17:36] <Rikairchy> I've had that issue with a firewall
#2090 [17:36] <Rikairchy> and again with a poor network
#2091 [17:37] <Rikairchy> brb
#2092 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> If it's the HTML content in the upper panel, then it's always been IPv6 for that one so far. At least 20 people with that one issue over the past 4-5 days
#2093 [17:38] <Rikairchy> you should add that to the bot
#2094 [17:38] <Rikairchy> ?? ipv6
#2095 [17:38] <sissy> btw i cant create a shortcut
#2096 [17:38] <Rikairchy> brb
#2097 [17:38] <Rikairchy> DiskDaemon: if sissy still needs help when i get back, I can teamviewer and fix it if need be
#2098 [17:38] <Rikairchy> finally on my desktop
#2099 [17:38] <DiskDaemon> what trouble do you have with creating a shortcut?
#2100 [17:39] <sissy> theres just noy that option when i right click
#2101 [17:39] <sissy> *not
#2102 [17:39] <DiskDaemon> Which OS are you using?
#2103 [17:39] <Rikairchy> is there an option that says new?
#2104 [17:40] <sissy> no just open in new tab
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#2106 [17:40] <sissy> open etc
#2107 [17:40] <Rikairchy> uh
#2108 [17:40] <Rikairchy> go to your desktop
#2109 [17:40] <Rikairchy> and right click
#2110 [17:40] <DiskDaemon> sissy: Those instrutions apply to the minecraft.exe file after it has been downloaded to you computer
#2111 [17:40] * DiskDaemon goes for a shower and to wake up
#2111 [17:41] <sissy> its not in desktop
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#2113 [17:41] <sissy> i'll look in programs
#2114 [17:41] <Rikairchy> no
#2115 [17:41] <WINTE-> yo guys, i need some help with a mod
#2116 [17:41] <Rikairchy> go to Downloads
#2117 [17:41] <WINTE-> if anyone can help message me pls;/
#2118 [17:41] <Rikairchy> go to #bukkithelp
#2119 [17:42] <Rikairchy> ?? mods
#2120 [17:42] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2121 [17:42] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#2122 [17:42] <Rikairchy> hm
#2123 [17:42] <Rikairchy> VoxelHead: as long as you quit muting me, we may become friends
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#2125 [17:45] <sissy> nah my computers fucked
#2126 [17:45] * AuBot kicked sissy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: issy :Please keep it civil.)
#2127 [17:50] <Boreeas> Eww
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#2129 [17:51] <sissy2> hell
#2130 [17:51] <sissy2> rik
#2131 [17:51] <sissy2> ?
#2132 [17:51] <sissy2> hell0
#2133 [17:52] <sissy2> i did that thing but it says that the target is not right because it contains java
#2134 [17:53] <DiskDaemon> sissy2: You can replace that java word with %ProgramFiles\Java\jre7\bin\java
#2135 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> sissy2: Or with %ProgramFiles(x86)\Java\jre7\bin\java
#2136 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> depending on where your java program is ou your machine
#2137 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> Pardon, those should be %ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java and %ProgramFiles(x86)%\Java\jre7\bin\java respectively
#2138 [17:54] <DiskDaemon> (an extra % in there)
#2139 [17:55] <sissy2> thing is java is places all over the adress
#2140 [17:55] <sissy2> *placed
#2141 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> Can you explain?
#2142 [17:56] <sissy2> i dont know where to plut all that stuff ,could you just give me the adress that i could put inwith out changing the old one
#2143 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> sissy2: Let's find out where your java is, so that we can then know what to put in there
#2144 [17:57] <sissy2> how do i do that
#2145 [17:57] <DiskDaemon> Win+r and click on Computer, then in the Computer section, open up C:
#2146 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> The windows key is located between the Ctrl and Alt keys on your keyboard
#2147 [17:59] <DiskDaemon> This is what the Windows key looks like - http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#2148 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> Win+r means to hold down the windows key, and press the r key on your keyboard
#2149 [18:00] <DiskDaemon> Oh, but those are the wrong commands
#2150 [18:00] <geraldbrent> e.
#2151 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> sissy2: Press the Windows key, and click on Computer that you see there.
#2152 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> sissy2: Let me know when you've got that far.
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#2154 [18:04] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#2155 [18:04] <Rikairchy> 0.0
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#2157 [18:05] <Rikairchy> ChanServ wheres meh ops :\
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#2160 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> sissy2: How are you doing there?
#2161 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> What an interesting name
#2162 [18:14] <Praxos> Hi, Is it possible to change the account of which i bought minecraft to an account without minecraft and have my other account get minecraft from the account i take it awway from?
#2163 [18:14] <DiskDaemon> Praxos: Account names cannot be changed. You'll need to purchase another premium account.
#2164 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> ??>> DiskDaemon win/key
#2165 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> for future reference (:
#2166 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> neat
#2167 [18:15] <DopeGhoti> see also win/key/image
#2168 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> Aww, you really do care about such things :)
#2169 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> I do what I can
#2170 [18:21] <Rikairchy> ??> DopeGhoti ninjas
#2171 [18:22] <Grim_Reaper> o.o
#2172 [18:23] <Boreeas> ??>> Rikairchy index
#2173 [18:23] <NinjaKirby> ??> Rikairchy Antidisestablishmentarianism
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#2176 [18:39] <Ramiro> Hello, Im searching for a mod. I want something to write on an irc channel something like !kick user reason and the mod kicks that user in the minecraft server :l
#2177 [18:40] <lutzee> This isn't the place to ask, try #bukkit
#2178 [18:40] <Ramiro> ty
#2179 [18:42] <Rikairchy> Ramiro
#2180 [18:42] <Ramiro> ?
#2181 [18:43] <Rikairchy> what irc network are you gonna link to?
#2182 [18:43] <Rikairchy> an unrealIRCd or a inspIRCd
#2183 [18:43] <Ramiro> UnrealIRCd
#2184 [18:44] <TheNoodle> CraftIRC and MonsterIRC do that Ramiro.
#2185 [18:44] <Ramiro> ty TheNoodle
#2186 [18:45] <Rikairchy> bukkitIRCd is awesome for InspIRCd
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#2188 [18:46] <Guest85339> im having trouble with a texture pack
#2189 [18:46] <Guest85339> please help
#2190 [18:47] <TheNoodle> Rikairchy, only if you own the network you're using it on.
#2191 [18:47] <TheNoodle> Guest85339, what trouble?
#2192 [18:47] <Guest85339> it wont work
#2193 [18:47] <Rikairchy> TheNoodle: that I am
#2194 [18:47] <Rikairchy> Guest85339: what wont work
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#2196 [18:47] <Rikairchy> thats like saying "my computer wont turn on" when you've cut all the cables.
#2197 [18:48] <Guest85339> i downloaded it properly but it wont transfer to minecraft
#2198 [18:48] <Rikairchy> click the "Texture Pack" button on the menu
#2199 [18:48] <Guest85339> ok i did
#2200 [18:49] <Rikairchy> then click the one that says "open texture pack folder"
#2201 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> Guest85339: Can we get some more information on what's not working? Perhaps, details on an error message if anything like that occurs?
#2202 [18:49] <Guest85339> i did
#2203 [18:49] <Rikairchy> copy and paste the .zip there
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#2205 [18:50] <Guest85339> open texture pack button isnt doing anything when i clicked it
#2206 [18:50] <lutzee> Guest85339, are you on mac?
#2207 [18:50] <Guest85339> ya
#2208 [18:50] <Rikairchy> I'm sorry.
#2209 [18:50] <lutzee> I believe that button does not work on mac one second
#2210 [18:51] <lutzee> ??< index
#2211 [18:51] <Rikairchy> ?? index
#2212 [18:51] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#2213 [18:51] <lutzee> ?? mac/.minecraft
#2214 [18:51] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#2215 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: For a list with the contents too, you can see http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#2216 [18:52] <Ramiro> TheNoodle sorry for asking dumb questions, but, how does MonsterIRC works?
#2217 [18:52] <lutzee> DiskDaemon, yeah i can't keep tack on that link... maybe add it as it's own factoid
#2218 [18:53] <Guest85339> ummm im confused i have minecraft open and the open texture pack folder button wont work, so what do i do?
#2219 [18:53] <lutzee> ??> Guest85339 mac/.minecraft
#2220 [18:53] <VoxelHead> Guest85339: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#2221 [18:54] <Wug> Ramiro: you install it and read the documentation and configure it
#2222 [18:54] <Wug> in that order
#2223 [18:54] <Rikairchy> usually
#2224 [18:54] <Guest85339> ok
#2225 [18:54] <Guest85339> ill do that
#2226 [18:54] <Rikairchy> Ramiro: idk about your IRCd, but ours need linkblocks to connect
#2227 [18:54] <DiskDaemon> lutzee: This one may be more useful, due to its attribution too http://paste.ubuntu.com/876885/
#2228 [18:55] <lutzee> mkay
#2229 [18:55] <Ramiro> Rikairchy O.o Haven't seen a bot which needs a link block
#2230 [18:55] <Rikairchy> oh
#2231 [18:55] <Rikairchy> ours isnt a bot
#2232 [18:56] <Rikairchy> its a fully integrated IRC server
#2233 [18:56] <Ramiro> :o
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#2235 [18:56] <Rikairchy> bukkitIRCd
#2236 [18:56] * TheNoodle shudders
#2236 [18:56] <Ramiro> Interesting...
#2237 [18:57] <Guest85339> uh oh i followed the instructions to app support but there is no "minecraft"
#2238 [18:57] <Guest85339> oh wait there it is sorry
#2239 [18:57] <lutzee> Guest85339, are you using a custom launcher?
#2240 [18:57] <lutzee> ah hehe
#2241 [18:57] <lutzee> in that folder is the texturepacks folder
#2242 [18:57] <lutzee> copy the texturepack zip into that folder
#2243 [18:58] <Ramiro> That guy who did MonsterIRC is quite genius
#2244 [18:58] <Ramiro> xD
#2245 [18:58] <Rikairchy> bukkitIRCd is better
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#2247 [18:59] <TheNoodle> BukkitIRCd is a completely different concept.
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#2249 [18:59] <Rikairchy> its like a relaybot vs januslink
#2250 [18:59] <DrkProdigy09> just installed minecraft and am getting black screens already updated reinstalled and updated java
#2251 [18:59] <TheNoodle> And in this case, completely unneeded.
#2252 [18:59] <DrkProdigy09> was told to paste this here
#2253 [18:59] <Ramiro> I don't any idea of what the *** is relaybot... neither januslink
#2254 [18:59] <DrkProdigy09> http://pastebin.com/dW2EQKfe
#2255 [18:59] <Ramiro> xD
#2256 [19:00] <Guest85339> ok im in minecraft , but what do i click on?
#2257 [19:00] <Wug> DrkProdigy09: hello
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#2259 [19:01] <Wug> ;search intel
#2260 [19:01] <WugBot> Matches for "intel": driver/win7/x64/intel/4series driver/win7/x64/intel/corei driver/winxp/x86/intel/910.915
#2261 [19:01] <DrkProdigy09> hello
#2262 [19:01] <lutzee> DrkProdigy09, there seems to be problems with your graphics chipset and minecraft re:http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/781705-opengl-issues-on-intel-mobile-945gm/
#2263 [19:01] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/781705-opengl-issues-on-intel-mobile-945gm/
#2264 [19:01] <lutzee> ooops
#2265 [19:02] <Wug> DrkProdigy09: you need this http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16312&ProdId=2301
#2266 [19:02] <Wug> that should do it for you
#2267 [19:02] <Wug> your existing one hasnt been updated since 2006
#2268 [19:02] <Wug> I'm guessing you just bought it and tried it and it didnt work
#2269 [19:03] <Wug> also, you may run into issues with 32 bit java
#2270 [19:03] <Wug> but one thing at a time'
#2271 [19:03] <DrkProdigy09> hmm no at my moms work and wanted to play xD
#2272 [19:03] <DrkProdigy09> it works at my desktop at my house
#2273 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> DrkProdigy09: You're on a less-capable computer now - it needs some TLC.
#2274 [19:04] <Wug> ^
#2275 [19:04] <DrkProdigy09> yea this comp sucks and what is TLC?
#2276 [19:04] <Wug> never played it on that computer
#2277 [19:04] <lutzee> Tender loving care
#2278 [19:05] <DrkProdigy09> got a error
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#2280 [19:06] <DiskDaemon> Hrm - 224MB of display memory is below the minimum requirements for Minecraft.
#2281 [19:06] <DrkProdigy09> the driver being installed is not validtated for this computer. Please obtain the appropriate driver from the computer manufacture
#2282 [19:08] <\r\n> DreamingInsane
#2283 [19:08] <lutzee> Try this one http://global-download.gateway.com/GDFiles/Driver/VGA/VGA_Intel_7.14.10.1147_Vistax64Vistax86_A.zip?acerid=634184837015351083&Step1=NOTEBOOK&Step2=MT%20SERIES&Step3=MT6820&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=GATEWAY&SC=PA_6G
#2284 [19:08] <\r\n> DrkProdigy09
#2285 [19:08] <\r\n> you're getting the wrong driver.
#2286 [19:08] <DreamingInsane> 15th time
#2287 [19:08] <DreamingInsane> k bai
#2288 [19:08] <\r\n> bye
#2289 [19:08] <lutzee> Thats from your system manufacturer
#2290 [19:08] <lutzee> Thats from your system manufacturer
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#2293 [19:09] <\r\n> DrkProdigy09, what are your system specs?
#2294 [19:09] <DrkProdigy09> http://pastebin.com/dW2EQKfe
#2295 [19:10] <DrkProdigy09> downloaded and got "Application not found"
#2296 [19:11] <NOLA> hello. i just purchased minecraft and i have the receipt saved. it said it could take up to an hour to take affect. its going on an hour and a half. What should i do
#2297 [19:11] <lutzee> NOLA, check the money has left your bank account
#2298 [19:12] <NOLA> kk. 1 sec
#2299 [19:12] <lutzee> Having a Receipt number does not nessassarily mean the purchase was successful (this is a bug)
#2300 [19:12] <Boreeas> NOLA: Wait some more. There have been reported cases of 2-3 days. An hour and a half is still within reasonable bounds
#2301 [19:12] <NOLA> really ok
#2302 [19:12] <Boreeas> If you don't receive it by tomorrow, check with your bank if the money went though
#2303 [19:13] <Boreeas> Some banks block international payments.
#2304 [19:13] <Boreeas> If that is the case, you will have to manually confirm the payment with your bank
#2305 [19:13] <NOLA> ohhh. im just dieing to play
#2306 [19:14] <NOLA> ok it hasnt gone through my bank yet so i guess thats the case
#2307 [19:16] <NOLA> if i were to download an older version to hold me over would that maybe affect anything
#2308 [19:17] <lutzee> You can play classic, but that's very limited
#2309 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> Hey neat - I've been running and playing Minecraft for a few days now, and the Java process has creeped up to 1.8 gigs, resulting in an out of memory full-screen error from Minecraft, and it's using between 75-80% of cpu. Screenshot with task mamager info http://i.imgur.com/HZVHz.png
#2310 [19:18] <NOLA> yeah so is xbla lol
#2311 [19:18] <NOLA> ok thanj
#2312 [19:18] <NOLA> i mean thab
#2313 [19:18] <NOLA> nks
#2314 [19:18] <NOLA> thanks lol
#2315 [19:19] <lutzee> 1.8GB? i can make my own laptop use up to 2.3GB >:|
#2316 [19:19] <lutzee> but yeah i don't do that
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#2318 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> This has been on a vanilla install, no texturepacks, no mods.
#2319 [19:19] <DrkProdigy09> sorry crashed anything said to me please say again
#2320 [19:20] <DiskDaemon> We're back to using just 10% cpu with less than 400KB of memory on a restart :)
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#2322 [19:21] <vhalavan> help i forgot my security question anser for mojag website
#2323 [19:21] <DiskDaemon> Although, just sitting at the main menu, the memory usage of 1.2.5 is climbing up by several KB per second
#2324 [19:22] <vhalavan> is aney one there
#2325 [19:22] <vhalavan> ?
#2326 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> What sort of security question was it, for it to be forgotten so easily?
#2327 [19:24] <vhalavan> What was the name of your first stuffed animal?
#2328 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> Mum might know - they're usually good with such things
#2329 [19:25] <vhalavan> no i put some randome anser tho
#2330 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> well that's fucked you up
#2331 [19:25] * AuBot kicked DiskDaemon from #minecrafthelp (Reason: iskDaemon :Please keep it civil.)
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#2333 [19:26] <vhalavan> lol
#2334 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> pardon :)
#2335 [19:26] <vhalavan> lol
#2336 [19:26] <vhalavan> can i email someone about this or what?
#2337 [19:27] <lutzee> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new yes here
#2338 [19:27] <vhalavan> thx
#2339 [19:27] <lutzee> Note you will also want to read this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#2341 [19:30] <Dashie> hey I have question about the in browser minecraft client
#2342 [19:30] <lutzee> Ask the question, we are here
#2343 [19:31] <vhalavan> one more question
#2344 [19:31] <vhalavan> do you help with mc servers?
#2345 [19:32] <Dashie> I can not get the in browser version to load. It just sits on the webpage and the screen doesnt load. Also, I am running Linux
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#2348 [19:33] <Boreeas> vhalavan: Depends on your question. We usually redirect question about Bukkit and plugins to #bukkit, and we won't help you set it up and configure it, but if you are getting errors, we will try to help you.
#2349 [19:34] <TheRandomDog> When I download Minecraft and type my username and Password and login, it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net", and under the inaccesible "Play Offline", it says "(Not Downloaded)". Help?
#2350 [19:34] <lutzee> Dashie, you might need to install a browser plugin to deal with minecraft in the browser
#2351 [19:34] <Boreeas> TheRandomDog: That's because you only downloaded the launcher, not the full game
#2352 [19:34] <Dashie> Which plugin is that? Becuase I have the java plugin installed
#2353 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: Does the bottom part of the launcher have a black background instead of a dirt background?
#2354 [19:34] <TheRandomDog> So, how would I download the full game?
#2355 [19:35] <TheRandomDog> No, it's dirt.
#2356 [19:35] <Boreeas> TheRandomDog: The launcher then downloads the game, or checks for updates
#2357 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: Alternatively, does the upper part of the launcher have any stange text in it, looking like HTML code?
#2358 [19:35] <Boreeas> TheRandomDog: Check your firewall if Java is allowed to make outside connections
#2359 [19:36] <TheRandomDog> No, nothing of the sort Disk. Boreeas -- I've logged in multiple times, and tried to Force Update, should it have already updates?
#2360 [19:36] <TheRandomDog> I'll check firewall.
#2361 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: What happens when you follow this link? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
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#2363 [19:37] <TheRandomDog> It warns about security certificate error. Continue?
#2364 [19:37] <DiskDaemon> Intersting - which web browser are you using?
#2365 [19:37] <lutzee> IE probably
#2366 [19:37] <TheRandomDog> Yeah. :P
#2367 [19:38] <lutzee> Proceed anyway
#2368 [19:38] <TheRandomDog> It says Bad Login.
#2369 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> good.
#2370 [19:38] <TheRandomDog> Not very good for me, if it doesn't fix it. :P
#2371 [19:38] <lutzee> It means you can connect to logins fine
#2372 [19:39] <TheRandomDog> Okay.
#2373 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: What happens when you use the in-browser version of the game?
#2374 [19:39] <TheRandomDog> It allows me to use it.
#2375 [19:39] <Dashie> I have the java plugin installed, and yet I can not play minecraft in the browser. I am running firefox 13.0.1 and Ubuntu 12.04
#2376 [19:39] <vhalavan> have you sean this http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/
#2377 [19:40] <TheRandomDog> Vhal -- for me or someone else?
#2378 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: So it's the downloaded minecraft.exe file from minecraft.net that you're having trouble with?
#2379 [19:40] <vhalavan> for everyone
#2380 [19:40] <TheRandomDog> Yes, it is.
#2381 [19:40] <lutzee> Dashie, it would be better to use the jar launcher, i used this to set it up http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/
#2382 [19:40] <DiskDaemon> With those other issues seemingly not being responsible, that tends to point the finger at the firewall.
#2383 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> Let's see if we can get some more information about what's going on, by getting an error report.
#2384 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: Where is your minecraft.exe file on your computer?
#2385 [19:41] <vhalavan> gtg now cya
#2386 [19:42] <Dashie> lutzee: I have the Jar downloaded, and I have java 7 installed but everytime I boot it and log in, it sits on a black screen
#2387 [19:42] <lutzee> Dashie, you will need to update the LWJGL jars and natives
#2388 [19:42] <TheRandomDog> In my main "central thing", I should say. The folder with my username, in this case, py.
#2389 [19:43] <lutzee> Dashie, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#2390 [19:43] <DiskDaemon> Okay, in that folder where the minecraft.exe file is, left-click on the background of the folder so that no files are selected, then shift-right-click on the background. You should see an open to open a command prompt there.
#2391 [19:43] <TheRandomDog> @Boreeas -- the Firewall allows Java.
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#2393 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> I'm in favour for finding out more details from the launcher about what the problem is, via an error report
#2394 [19:44] <Dashie> thanks @lutzee
#2395 [19:44] <TheRandomDog> Open Command Window here?
#2396 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: That's the one
#2397 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: We're going to use java to run the launcher directly, so that reports of what goes on can be displayed there.
#2398 [19:45] <TheRandomDog> Okay -- cmd opened up. What's next?
#2399 [19:45] <TheRandomDog> Okay.
#2400 [19:45] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: Let's check that java can be run from there first. What do you get when you type in: java -version
#2401 [19:46] <TheRandomDog> 1.6.0_02
#2402 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> Good. Now type this: java -jar minecraft.exe
#2403 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> Make the can't connect issue occur again, and close Minecraft.
#2404 [19:46] <DiskDaemon> The command prompt should then have detailed info on what went wrong, that we can look at.
#2405 [19:47] <TheRandomDog> Hmm... I tried to login, got the error, and closed out, but there's nothing beyond what I have typed.
#2406 [19:48] <DiskDaemon> Nuts. So it's not an internal issue that gets reported then.
#2407 [19:48] <zen> Er yeah, it is
#2408 [19:48] <TheRandomDog> Hold on -- maybe this will help.
#2409 [19:49] <TheRandomDog> There is a .minecraft folder in the Appdata>>Roaming folder, but nothing, not even a file, is included inside it.
#2410 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> zen: In which other way could he get a report on what's going on?
#2411 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: That's where it will download the files, once you can log in.
#2412 [19:49] <TheRandomDog> Oh, okay.
#2413 [19:49] <zen> Never seen any error reporting stuff for the launcher,
#2414 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> zen: I've seen it when the win/! issue occurs, for example
#2415 [19:50] <zen> TheRandomDog, what is your exact windows login username?
#2416 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: Also, which antivirus program are you using?
#2417 [19:50] <zen> Exactly what i was about to ask
#2418 [19:50] <TheRandomDog> Windows login, or Minecraft login?
#2419 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> okay, I have to head off now, so all the best with things
#2420 [19:50] <TheRandomDog> My Antivirus is McAfee SecurityCenter
#2421 [19:50] <zen> Your windows user name, the thing you login to your PC using
#2422 [19:51] <Rikairchy> commonly, your name
#2423 [19:51] <TheRandomDog> Windows Username is py.
#2424 [19:51] <Rikairchy> py.
#2425 [19:51] <zen> With the . ?
#2426 [19:51] <TheRandomDog> Yup. :P
#2427 [19:51] <Rikairchy> including the .''
#2428 [19:51] <TheRandomDog> No .
#2429 [19:51] <TheRandomDog> No . there
#2430 [19:51] <Rikairchy> so just "py"
#2431 [19:51] <TheRandomDog> Yeah.
#2432 [19:52] <zen> hmm
#2433 [19:52] <Rikairchy> whats the error?
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#2435 [19:53] <zen> He can't login into minecraft.net on the client
#2436 [19:53] <zen> er mcafee seems to block inecraft servers, not seeing anything about the client
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#2438 [19:54] <zen> anyway, i'm disappearing too.
#2439 [19:54] <TheRandomDog> I'm thinking since IE was warning me about downloading the minecraft.net client, it's blocking it from downloading files?
#2440 [19:54] <TheRandomDog> Bye, and thx zen.
#2441 [19:56] <patonoide> I downloaded the new snapshot and have been playing it using the same saved game from 1.2.5 but i havent found any esmeralds will i be able to find esmeralds on my old saved game or will i have to create a new world ?
#2442 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: I'm just getting ready to go. We could download the minecraft.jar launcher and see how that goes instead
#2443 [19:56] <TheRandomDog> patonoide -- I'm pretty sure you'll have to create a new world, since emeralds can't spawn in 1.2.5, and your world was originated there.
#2444 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> patonoide: Any existing terrain won't have new features. It's only when you go to new areas that the newly generated chunks will have the new features
#2445 [19:57] <TheRandomDog> DiskDaemon: Okay.
#2446 [19:57] <patonoide> ohh that make s alot of sense thank you very much
#2447 [19:57] <DiskDaemon> Download minecraft.jar from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar and then use from the command prompt: java -jar minecraft.jar
#2448 [19:59] <TheRandomDog> Should I try and login?
#2449 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> After having started up that minecraft.jar ? Yes.
#2450 [20:01] <TheRandomDog> It gives the same error. :/ Close?
#2451 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> Yes thanks
#2452 [20:01] <TheRandomDog> Np.
#2453 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> So it's not likely to be a firewall issue at least then.
#2454 [20:01] <DiskDaemon> Is there more to the error message than it can't connect?
#2455 [20:02] <TheRandomDog> Besides the "(Not downloaded)" text, no.
#2456 [20:03] * DiskDaemon starts searching other resources
#2456 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: You were saying you have better success playing in the browser one?
#2457 [20:04] <TheRandomDog> Yes, it will work, but I prefer not to because it has somewhat more lag.
#2458 [20:04] <DiskDaemon> TheRandomDog: With the minecraft.exe file, does the launcher have a grey background to it?
#2459 [20:05] <DiskDaemon> In fact, would you mind taking a screenshot of it, in case there's some detail that can help?
#2460 [20:07] <TheRandomDog> Yeah, it might be a little pixelated, but other than that, I've got it. DCC send?
#2461 [20:08] <DiskDaemon> imgur.com thanks
#2462 [20:09] <TheRandomDog> http://imgur.com/1TfE4
#2463 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> Did you say which antivirus program you are running?
#2464 [20:10] <TheRandomDog> McAfee SecurityCenter
#2465 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> As a test of a common issue that've found here, temporarily disable your antivirus program, and then log in again.
#2466 [20:12] <TheRandomDog> If it'll open... -.-
#2467 [20:12] <TheRandomDog> It's not opening for some reason...
#2468 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> What is it? Mcafee, minecraft, mor something else?
#2469 [20:13] <TheRandomDog> McAfee won't open.
#2470 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> How intriguing
#2471 [20:14] <TheRandomDog> Maybe I'm lagging.
#2472 [20:14] <TheRandomDog> It shows the little popup, but the main program doesn't open.
#2473 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> These instructions are on how to temporarily disable mcafee https://community.mcafee.com/thread/44575
#2474 [20:16] <TheRandomDog> Now, if there was a thread to explain why it won't open. Hmm...
#2475 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> Would restarting the computer help you toachieve that?
#2476 [20:18] <TheRandomDog> Apparently I might need to uninstall and reinstall McAfee. I do not want to do this, as this is not my computer... :P
#2477 [20:18] <TheRandomDog> I will try rebooting though.
#2478 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> I'm sorry. AVG and Mcafee give us far too much trouble here
#2479 [20:19] * TheRandomDog will be right back...
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#2483 [20:34] <russian> mindcraft wont load all the way
#2484 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> temporarily disable your antivirus program, and try again
#2485 [20:35] <TheRandomDog> Disk -- it didn't help. But, apparently I have something else called ThreatFire. Is that a main antivirus, or is it something else/
#2486 [20:36] <russian> iive tryed it still nothing it says my file is corupt
#2487 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> That's another antivirus program, yeah
#2488 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> ??> russian win/reinst
#2489 [20:36] <VoxelHead> russian: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2490 [20:36] <VoxelHead> russian: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2491 [20:36] <TheRandomDog> Hmm... it gave me a report on McAfee though.
#2492 [20:37] <russian> i i did still nothing it only says applyin updates i left it like the for 4 hours and the bar didnt move
#2493 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> The bar doesn't move because your antivirus program is stopping things from coming through
#2494 [20:38] <russian> my antivius is turned off
#2495 [20:39] <DiskDaemon> That's the only solution that we know of, when the update bar doesn't want to complete its process.
#2496 [20:40] <russian> it also sayed the i downloaded it from an email
#2497 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> can you please provide more details on that
#2498 [20:41] <TheRandomDog> Disk -- I shut down ThreatFire and am trying to login.
#2499 [20:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> russian win/reinst
#2500 [20:41] <VoxelHead> russian: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2501 [20:41] <VoxelHead> russian: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2502 [20:41] <TheRandomDog> Disk -- it worked. Thx! :)
#2503 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#2504 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
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#2506 [20:42] <russian> i already told me that and i said it didnt work
#2507 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> ??> russian error
#2508 [20:43] <VoxelHead> russian: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2509 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> russian: pardon? I was asking for more details on what it sayd about the downloaded email
#2510 [20:43] <VoxelHead> russian: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
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#2517 [20:52] <Blitz> Mm
#2518 [20:52] <Blitz> Minecraft isn't opening for me and I can't even see it on minecraft.net/play
#2519 [20:52] <Blitz> (brb)
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#2522 [20:54] <Blitz> so
#2523 [20:54] <Blitz> any ideas?
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#2526 [20:57] <Blitz> blubl
#2527 [20:58] <Sara_> When I was trying to make an account I accidentally mistyped my email so now the verification code is now connected to the wrong email,which is not in use or real. Is there a way you can delete that name so I can use it for myself?
#2528 [20:58] <Sara_> Or can you send me the verifivcation code to my email?
#2529 [20:58] <Blitz> I'd imagine it expires. Try logging in, maybe it'll give you the option to resend the verification code *or change your email*
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#2532 [21:02] <Sara_> I tried but it says my email could not be verified.
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#2538 [21:09] <Sara_> Is there anyway to reset the username "Sarastic" by deleting the account that was made for it, as the email associated with it was entered incorrectly when setting up the account?
#2539 [21:11] <superkabii> not without mojang support.
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#2541 [21:11] <superkabii> It's been hinted that a way to change account info will be released soon.
#2542 [21:12] <Sara_> what do you mean? i need to convert my email to mojang?
#2543 [21:13] <superkabii> I meant that there is no way for you to delete an account from your end.
#2544 [21:14] <Sara_> okay, thank you!
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#2546 [21:28] <Rikairchy> [21:11:18] <superkabii> It's been hinted that a way to change account info will be released soon.
#2547 [21:28] <Rikairchy> by converting to a mohjang.net account
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#2553 [21:42] <NinjaGuy342> hi
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#2558 [21:48] <badblazeraranda> i just bought the mine craft game now i cant down load it
#2559 [21:48] <CrusaderDeleters> What exaclty happens?
#2560 [21:48] <badblazeraranda> i cant download the sever thing eather
#2561 [21:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Obamam? Psh!
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#2563 [21:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Woops
#2564 [21:49] <CrusaderDeleters> What exaclty happens?
#2565 [21:51] <badblazeraranda> went i go to download it i push save the it says minecraft couldnt be doawnloaded retry doesnt do anything
#2566 [21:52] <badblazeraranda> just says cant be downloaded
#2567 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> 0.0
#2568 [21:52] <CrusaderDeleters> what browser?
#2569 [21:52] <badblazeraranda> and i idk what to do
#2570 [21:52] <badblazeraranda> enternet explore
#2571 [21:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Not sure why Internet couldn't download.
#2572 [21:53] <badblazeraranda> my computer a 2010 model
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#2574 [21:59] <badblazeraranda> i downloaded it be for and this time i thought i had to del all the files on it could that be it?
#2575 [21:59] <CrusaderDeleters> It's nothing with the computer.
#2576 [22:00] <badblazeraranda> mybe my acount?
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#2578 [22:01] <CrusaderDeleters> No, I think it might be internet explorer. Could you try to use another browser such as firefox or google chrome?
#2579 [22:02] <badblazeraranda> hello i just got mine craft then i tryed to down load it and it just wont download
#2580 [22:02] <badblazeraranda> the sever thing wont download eather
#2581 [22:03] <CrusaderDeleters> I think it might be internet explorer. Could you try to use another browser such as firefox or google chrome?
#2582 [22:04] <badblazeraranda> ok ill try one but when i go to play on brower it works perfic
#2583 [22:05] <badblazeraranda> wheres a good place to download crome
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#2585 [22:14] <badblazeraranda> i cant download crome eathe >:{
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#2588 [22:41] <James_> Hey anyone here mod?
#2589 [22:42] <James_> Hello?
#2590 [22:42] <James_> ???
#2591 [22:42] <CrusaderDeleters> ?
#2592 [22:43] <James_> Do you mod
#2593 [22:43] <James_> I need help =\
#2594 [22:43] <CrusaderDeleters> kinda. but you should ask in #Risucraft or #mcp for modding help.
#2595 [22:43] <James_> Well
#2596 [22:43] <James_> With #risucraft
#2597 [22:43] <James_> I'm banned
#2598 [22:43] <James_> For no reason
#2599 [22:43] <James_> And nobody will respond on #mcp
#2600 [22:44] <James_> :(
#2601 [22:44] <James_> Anyways
#2602 [22:44] <James_> Do you use MCP?
#2603 [22:44] <James_> Are you there?
#2604 [22:44] <James_> CrusaderDeleters: Are you there?
#2605 [22:45] <James_> '-'
#2606 [22:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Use mcp.
#2607 [22:46] <James_> Yeah but
#2608 [22:46] <James_> When I try to decompile my minecraft.jar
#2609 [22:46] <James_> It says
#2610 [22:46] <James_> Hold on brb looking at what it says
#2611 [22:46] <James_> "Missing client jar file. Aborting!!!!"
#2612 [22:47] <James_> Help -\
#2613 [22:47] <James_> =\
#2614 [22:47] <Rikairchy> this isnt for minecraft mods
#2615 [22:47] <Rikairchy> ??> Jaiimc mods
#2616 [22:47] <VoxelHead> Jaiimc: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2617 [22:47] <VoxelHead> Jaiimc: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#2618 [22:47] <Rikairchy> ??> James mods
#2619 [22:47] <Rikairchy> fu
#2620 [22:47] <James_> Lawl?
#2621 [22:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Fail,e Rikairchy
#2622 [22:47] <Rikairchy> ??> James_ mods
#2623 [22:47] <Rikairchy> >.> bot.
#2624 [22:47] <Rikairchy> ??> James_ modding
#2625 [22:48] <VoxelHead> James_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2626 [22:48] <VoxelHead> James_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#2627 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> No, voxelhead is just a VERY fast typer.
#2628 [22:48] <Rikairchy> CrusaderDeleters im drunk
#2629 [22:48] <Rikairchy> leave me alone
#2630 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol.
#2631 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> I am drunk too.
#2632 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> And high. On:
#2633 [22:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Weed, crack, meth, crack, meth, weed, weed, weed.
#2634 [22:49] <James_> CrusaderDeleters: It's just that I can'tfind ANNYTHING else to help me.
#2635 [22:49] <Rikairchy> no
#2636 [22:49] <James_> Please?
#2637 [22:49] <James_> NOTHING ELSE
#2638 [22:49] <Rikairchy> he isnt really real
#2639 [22:49] <James_> I can't find anything
#2640 [22:49] <James_> I know
#2641 [22:49] <CrusaderDeleters> James... #mcp
#2642 [22:49] <James_> Noooo nobody will respond
#2643 [22:49] <James_> I've gone in that so many times
#2644 [22:49] <James_> Nobody answered
#2645 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Continue asking.
#2646 [22:50] <James_> LOl
#2647 [22:50] <James_> Lol*
#2648 [22:50] <James_> Look at what I said above please
#2649 [22:50] <James_> :(
#2650 [22:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Like what Mr.Fasttyper said, we cannot know every single combo of everything modified based.
#2651 [22:51] <James_> I know, but this is pretty simple
#2652 [22:51] <James_> And like you said, you have MCP.
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#2654 [22:52] <CrusaderDeleters> I didn't say I had mcp. ._.
#2655 [22:52] <creeper0415> Is this for General MInecraft? Or PunchCRaft.us?
#2656 [22:52] <CrusaderDeleters> This is for vanilla minecraft.
#2657 [22:53] <creeper0415> Oh. Sorry!
#2658 [22:53] <creeper0415> Oh. Sorry!
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#2660 [22:53] <James_> Hmmm
#2661 [22:53] <James_> Hey
#2662 [22:53] <James_> Do you know where else?
#2663 [22:53] <James_> I could find help?
#2664 [22:54] <Rikairchy> uh
#2665 [22:55] <Rikairchy> #bukkit
#2666 [22:56] <DopeGhoti> James_: try this:
#2667 [22:56] <DopeGhoti> uninstall _all_ of your mods, and try Minecraft then
#2668 [22:56] <DopeGhoti> if it works, yay!
#2669 [22:56] <DopeGhoti> then, install _one_ mod.
#2670 [22:56] <James_> Lol
#2671 [22:56] <DopeGhoti> if it still works, yay! go on to the next one
#2672 [22:56] <James_> That's not what I need help with
#2673 [22:56] <James_> -.-
#2674 [22:56] <DopeGhoti> repeat until you find the mod that breaks things
#2675 [22:56] <James_> I need help with ME modding
#2676 [22:56] <James_> Me making the mods
#2677 [22:57] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2678 [22:57] <James_> '-'
#2679 [22:57] <DopeGhoti> well, to mod James_, first you need the source code, which for most humans, is written in a language called 'DNA'
#2680 [22:57] <James_> Lol
#2681 [22:57] <DopeGhoti> the fun part is, we don't have very good compilers or runtime environments yet
#2682 [22:58] <James_> Well
#2683 [22:58] <James_> Have you heard of MCP?
#2684 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> If by MCP you mean Minecraft Patcher, yes. I don't use it though.
#2685 [22:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope.
#2686 [22:58] <James_> No
#2687 [22:58] <DopeGhoti> I prefer my Mines to be Crafted with vnailla flavoring
#2688 [22:58] <James_> :P
#2689 [22:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Dope: Taste-bud exploding Iron cakes created with 'nilla flavor? ^.^
#2690 [23:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, James is no longer here. XD
#2691 [23:04] <CrusaderDeleters> DopeGhoti: Give me a game to play.
#2692 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> uh
#2693 [23:06] <DopeGhoti> Silent Hunter IV
#2694 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> I no haz.
#2695 [23:07] <DopeGhoti> The Binding of Isaac
#2696 [23:12] <\r\n> .auth
#2697 [23:12] <\r\n> [20:12] <\r\n> .auth
#2698 [23:12] <\r\n> [20:12] -AuBot- AuBot Internal Error [Code 0x01] | Incorrect Number of Arguments Called! Function Will Be Skipped.
#2699 [23:12] <\r\n> :/
#2700 [23:12] <\r\n> .auth mc
#2701 [23:12] <\r\n> .mcstatus
#2702 [23:12] <\r\n> .status
#2703 [23:12] <\r\n> .mc
#2704 [23:12] <\r\n> .mcservers
#2705 [23:12] <\r\n> .server
#2706 [23:12] <\r\n> .checkserver
#2707 [23:12] <\r\n> :/
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#2710 [23:20] <dudeman> When I try to run the game it says "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. What does this mean?
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#2712 [23:20] <KSib> o i have a question. I am trying to alter someone else's texture pack, by adding additional mobs to the texture pack. However, I can not rezip the folder without cause issues with mine craft. Minecraft will only use default textures
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#2714 [23:28] <DopeGhoti> \r\n: are you trying to get kicked for bot abuse?
#2715 [23:28] <\r\n> bot abuse?
#2716 [23:28] <AlexTheLion> how am i supposed to make a pickaxe?
#2717 [23:28] <AlexTheLion> just a simple one wooden
#2718 [23:28] <DopeGhoti> AlexTheLion: wood sticks, and three pieces for the head
#2719 [23:28] <\r\n> I'm trying to figure out the command to check if the MC auth servers are down
#2720 [23:28] <DopeGhoti> three wood across the top, then two sticks down the middle, AlexTheLion
#2721 [23:28] <\r\n> it's been done before :(
#2722 [23:28] <KSib> have a question. I am trying to alter someone else's texture pack, by adding additional mobs to the texture pack. However, I can not rezip the folder without cause issues with mine craft. Minecraft will only use default textures
#2723 [23:29] <AlexTheLion> there is the problem i only have 4 blocks to insert items
#2724 [23:29] <AlexTheLion> i'm new at this -.-
#2725 [23:29] <KSib> you need to create a crafting table
#2726 [23:29] <KSib> using 4 planks first
#2727 [23:30] <KSib> crating table gives you a 3x3 crafting window
#2728 [23:30] <AlexTheLion> sooo 4 woodplanks?
#2729 [23:30] <KSib> yes
#2730 [23:30] <AlexTheLion> i'll try this really quick
#2731 [23:32] <dudeman> When I try to run the game it says "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode". What does this mean?
#2732 [23:36] <AlexTheLion> okay got that now to make pickaxes c:
#2733 [23:38] <KSib> "DopeGhoti: AlexTheLion: wood sticks, and three pieces for the head"
#2734 [23:38] <AlexTheLion> got it.
#2735 [23:40] <dudeman> When I try to run the game it says "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode". What does this mean?
#2736 [23:42] <dudeman> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. What does this mean?
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#2738 [23:43] <nicky> hey
#2739 [23:44] <nicky> anyone know how to make snapshots work idk i downloaded it nd idk what to do please help ?
#2740 [23:45] <KSib> dude man. You may need to update your drivers
#2741 [23:45] <KSib> nicky: You may need to rename the snapshot name and replace it with the mine craft jar that you are currently running
#2742 [23:45] <nicky> like its a java file do i just run it or place it somewhere?
#2743 [23:46] <KSib> are you on windows or mac?
#2744 [23:46] <nicky> i am new to minecraft i just wanna get all the new stuff thats why windows
#2745 [23:46] <KSib> Snapshot's are generally recommended for new players
#2746 [23:47] <nicky> thats good i am new :D
#2747 [23:47] <KSib> but you will need to replace the mine craft jar that is located in your app data folder
#2748 [23:47] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 4
#2749 [23:47] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 4 = We do not support Classic or pre-releases. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti/regexp | Fri Jul 06 12:00:01 MST 2012 ]
#2750 [23:47] <KSib> I would honestly wait to use it
#2751 [23:47] <KSib> ty voxel XD
#2752 [23:47] <VoxelHead> \o
#2753 [23:48] <nicky> ok thx
#2754 [23:48] <nicky> ok thx
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#2756 [23:48] <dudeman> My drivers are up to date
#2757 [23:49] <nicky> i cant even play minecraft vga graphioc card (well no graphics card) :(
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