#1 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> ??< dont/pebcak
#2 [00:00] * Architech_ [Architech_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3 [00:01] <Guest> nick are you running windows?
#4 [00:01] <Guest> if you are, open the start menu, type 'osk' without quotes, hit enter, and a virtual keyboard will pop up
#5 [00:01] <Guest> press the prtscn button, open microsoft paint or some such, and press ctrl+v or right click/paste
#6 [00:02] <Guest> savew
#7 [00:02] <Guest> save* and upload
#8 [00:02] <Elystus> back
#9 [00:05] <Guest> Guess he's having technical difficulties.
#10 [00:06] <Guest> Well, out of idle curiosity and at the risk of spamming the board with useless banter, hows everyone's evening going?
#11 [00:07] <Elystus> Its going well.
#12 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> I'm in Wednesday afternoon right now
#13 [00:07] <Elystus> Listening to some deadmau5, jsut finsihed some coding. Worked a little bit on a support thread, and did a few hours of moderating.
#14 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> and the cuppa tea that I had earlier on was glorious
#15 [00:07] <Elystus> finished.
#16 [00:08] <Guest> First time on the Minecraft IRC, and as I can't seem to access #minecraft for some reason, figure I'd be somewhat sociable here. You in the UK DD?
#17 [00:08] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: What brand of tea?
#18 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Guest: The #minecraft channel requires that users have registered their IRC account
#19 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: No idea - some random one from the teabag jar.
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#21 [00:09] <Guest> Ah yeah I'm using a java based browser client. I guess I should download a client, could be useful.
#22 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> Guest: I'm on the other side of the world from the UK. I'm where Lord of the Rings was filmed
#23 [00:09] <Guest> Hahaha, does it feel more gratifying to say that rather than New Zealand?
#24 [00:09] <Guest> Or do most people just not know where NZ is?
#25 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> It can be, yes
#26 [00:10] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Are you lord Sauron?
#27 [00:10] <nick1234> when i take a pic of my screen
#28 [00:10] <nick1234> were do i find it at
#29 [00:10] <Guest> Your clipboard
#30 [00:10] <Guest> Like I said
#31 [00:10] <Guest> Open paint
#32 [00:10] <Guest> And just paste
#33 [00:10] <Elystus> it is on your clipboard. All you need to do is paste it in paint.
#34 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> Detailed instructions (with pictures and arrows!) are at http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#35 [00:11] <nick1234> were is clipbored at
#36 [00:11] <Guest> XD
#37 [00:11] <Guest> Open paint.... right click.... click paste....
#38 [00:11] <Elystus> Guest: The reason you cannot access #minecraft is because it blocks people who have a browser based client.
#39 [00:11] <Elystus> I would download icechat 9 ;)
#40 [00:12] <Andrio> I already have IceChat 9 :)
#41 [00:12] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest irc
#42 [00:12] <VoxelHead> Guest: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#43 [00:12] <VoxelHead> Guest: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#44 [00:12] <Andrio> Or just don't go there. I've heard bad publicity about the operators there.
#45 [00:13] <Elystus> Icechat 9 is the best :3
#46 [00:13] <Guest> I might register later, but I'm having so much fun chatting it up with you blokes! And maybe, just maybe, we can find poor nick's lost .jar file!
#47 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> That entirely depends on his ability to successfully follow instructions
#48 [00:14] <Andrio> I liked IceChat 7 a lot.
#49 [00:14] <Elystus> Ehh, it was a bit too bright.
#50 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> Does IceChat improve on mIRC on any ways?
#51 [00:15] <Andrio> It's freen
#52 [00:15] <Andrio> free*
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#54 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> I'm using the free mIRC too
#55 [00:15] <Andrio> Downside, though: it was coded in VB6, and doesn't recognise Unicode.
#56 [00:16] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Check it out for yourself.
#57 [00:16] <Andrio> The same language i _used_ to code in.
#58 [00:16] <Elystus> I like it, but some people don't
#59 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> I was hoping that someone with experience with it would know more than my stumbling around in it might divulge
#60 [00:16] <Elystus> Lol you guys and your C languages and your Java languages >_>
#61 [00:17] <Elystus> PHP is where it is.
#62 [00:17] <DiskDaemon> Andrio: Is it possible, for example, to monior multiple channels at the same time?
#63 [00:17] <DiskDaemon> Andrio: Is it possible, for example, to monior multiple channels at the same time?
#64 [00:18] * monsterr1274 [monsterr1274@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#65 [00:18] <Andrio> Yeah
#66 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> Like this? http://i.imgur.com/ipzdV.png
#67 [00:18] <Andrio> (I would scorn any client that can't do that.)
#68 [00:19] <Andrio> Yes.
#69 [00:20] <nick1234> ok i got the screenshot now were do i past it
#70 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> And that's my issue. If other programs just do waht I'm currently doing, there's no real benefit to switching.
#71 [00:20] * Elystus_ [Elystus_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#72 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> It's like having the iPad 2. When the new iPad comes out, it's not significantly better enough to warrant using the new one
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#74 [00:21] <nick1234> hello
#75 [00:21] <Elystus_> I totally did not just misclick when using task manager and close this program instead of another >_>
#76 [00:21] <nick1234> i got the screenshot
#77 [00:21] <nick1234> were do i padt it at
#78 [00:21] <Elystus_> Put it up on imgur :)
#79 [00:21] <Elystus_> and give us the link :)
#80 [00:23] <nick1234> http://imgur.com/AFNYo
#81 [00:23] <Guest> ,,,,
#82 [00:23] <nick1234> see no minecraft.jar
#83 [00:23] <Guest> It's right there....
#84 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> I see it right there. The minecraft file. Right-click on it and go to properties - you will then see that it's the minecraft.jar file
#85 [00:24] <Guest> DX
#86 [00:24] <nick1234> rilly
#87 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: Your computer is set up to hide file extensions for ones that it knows about.
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#89 [00:24] <Guest> Really.
#90 [00:24] <Serithi> Yo.
#91 [00:24] <Elystus_> o/
#92 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> Serithi: hi there
#93 [00:24] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/show-or-hide-file-name-extensions
#94 [00:24] <Elystus_> ALso, really?
#95 [00:25] <nick1234> it wont let me open it
#96 [00:26] <Guest> Right click, click open with, choose notepad
#97 [00:26] <Guest> Well
#98 [00:26] <Guest> I say that
#99 [00:26] <DiskDaemon> Guest: The miencraft.jar file opening in notepad? I think not...
#100 [00:26] <Serithi> So, i have a problem with my account. I've forgotten the password, so i'm trying to get it reset. I've done the "reset password" thing 4 times over the last few days, but i haven't gotten the email at all. I've contacted Customer Support a few days ago, but i haven't heard back from them. Is something going on?
#101 [00:26] <Guest> I have no idea, thats usually the case with unknown file types you want to edit
#102 [00:26] <Guest> Yeah nevermind, sorry, just habit
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#104 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> Serithi: Yes, it takes time for customer support to respond
#105 [00:27] <Serithi> The email's not in the spam folder or anything, it's just not there period. I've seen that some other people have the same problem
#106 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> Serithi: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#107 [00:27] <Serithi> ouch, damn, that's some backlog...
#108 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> It is indeed. There is word that thy're planning on getting some temp workers to help out, but we haven't seen any result of that at this stage
#109 [00:28] <Serithi> Alright, guess i'll be waiting a while for that at least. Does anyone know why the password reset emails won't send, though? They worked fine last time i reset it.
#110 [00:29] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Apparently he is getting the temps this week, iirc.
#111 [00:29] <nick1234> y is it not opening it
#112 [00:29] <nick1234> minecraft.jar
#113 [00:30] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: If you don't feel like taking nick1234 step by step through the process of modding minecraft, I'll understand
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#115 [00:30] <DiskDaemon> Instructions are at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
#116 [00:30] <nick1234> it give me a error when i open it
#117 [00:30] <Elystus> Oh, wait I am doing it?
#118 [00:30] <Elystus> Okay :)
#119 [00:31] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: This channel does not normally provide modding support.
#120 [00:31] <Elystus> nick1234: You need to download winrar in order to open minecraft.jar and add the needed class files to it.
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#122 [00:32] <Elystus> Here is the download: http://www.win-rar.com/postdownload.html?&L=0
#123 [00:32] <Elystus> Just wait and it should automatically download.
#124 [00:32] <nick1234> could not find the main class. programs will exit
#125 [00:32] <nick1234> i do have winrar
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#127 [00:33] <Elystus> nick1234: have you watched a video on this. That helped the first time when I did it.
#128 [00:34] <nick1234> what video
#129 [00:35] <Elystus> Let me find a good one quickly.
#130 [00:35] <Elystus> Which mod are you trying to install?
#131 [00:35] <nick1234> i got the mod
#132 [00:35] <Elystus> I know, but I need the name to find a good video on the installation
#133 [00:35] <nick1234> it wont let me open minecraft.jar
#134 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> Here's a good video on installing mods, from Paul Soares Jr. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP_H4ryjlM
#135 [00:35] <Elystus> ^
#136 [00:36] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, an updated version by Risugami is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=rXP_H4ryjlM&feature=iv&v=nFY94W2vHmc&annotation_id=annotation_808735
#137 [00:36] <nick1234> i got them all modleader and othere one
#138 [00:36] <Elystus> Watch the videos Disk just linked
#139 [00:37] <nick1234> i got it i know were the go i just need to open minecraft.jar it wont let me open it
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#141 [00:37] <nick1234> it says this when i open it could not find the main class. programs will exit
#142 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: Instructions on how to do that are at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFY94W2vHmc
#143 [00:38] <Guest> right click, go to open with, open with winrar
#144 [00:39] <nick1234> ty for your guys for helping me not
#145 [00:39] <nick1234> jk ty
#146 [00:40] <nick1234> oh ya thet video dose not help me im dislikeing it
#147 [00:40] <nick1234> well goodbye ty for helping me
#148 [00:40] * |Kiikun| prefers to use mcpatcher to mod now.
#148 [00:40] <DiskDaemon> nick1234: That's a shame. I don't think that you'll find a better video that instructs on how to install mods
#149 [00:41] <nick1234> i know how to do it it wont open
#150 [00:41] <Guest> RIGHT CLICK THE FILE
#151 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> |Kiikun|: Will that program help someone who took an hour to take a screenshot, even with instructions on how to do that?
#152 [00:41] <nick1234> minecraft.jar
#153 [00:41] <Guest> HOVER OVER MINECRAFT.JAR
#154 [00:41] <Guest> HOVER OVER OPEN WITH*
#155 [00:41] <Guest> CLICK WINRAR
#156 [00:41] <Guest> IT WILL OPEN
#157 [00:41] <nick1234> well goodbye ty for helping me
#158 [00:41] <|Kiikun|> DiskDaemon: run mcpatcher, add mod you want to add to mcpatcher's mods, click patch.
#159 [00:41] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Please retain yourself :)
#160 [00:42] <Elystus> Bye nick1234
#161 [00:42] <Guest> Sorry
#162 [00:42] <Elystus> Btw, I saw this coming about 5 hours ago.
#163 [00:42] <Elystus> When he first joined.
#164 [00:42] <Guest> You know, he just spent fourty five minutes of his and your time trying to figure out how to locate and open a compressed file that was staring him in the face the whole time.
#165 [00:43] <Guest> Do you get a lot of people like that?
#166 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> fortunately not
#167 [00:43] <Elystus> Sometimes.
#168 [00:43] <|Kiikun|> sometimes
#169 [00:43] <Guest> And, if so, how exactly to you keep your sanity?
#170 [00:43] <Elystus> the sometimes have it
#171 [00:43] <|Kiikun|> i give up after saying the samer thing three times usually
#172 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> Policies such as this one help to retain sanity
#173 [00:43] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#174 [00:43] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#175 [00:43] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#176 [00:44] <Elystus> Guest: After modearting the Minecraft forums, it takes a lot to make me lose my sanity.
#177 [00:44] <|Kiikun|> and ?? dont/pebcak
#178 [00:44] <Elystus> moderating.
#179 [00:44] <|Kiikun|> ?? dont/pebcak
#180 [00:44] <VoxelHead> dont/pebcak: If you can't understand our (generally) basic instructions, please don't even bother wasting our time if you won't listen. Fixing problems requires some amount of self-help ability, to say nothing of literacy and the ability to follow directions..
#181 [00:44] <VoxelHead> dont/pebcak: Keep in mind we are all volunteers - if you need more help, hire a professional.
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#183 [00:44] <DiskDaemon> Someone was asking me yesterday if I could help her to fix her desktop computer, so that she can then use it to try playing Minecraft.
#184 [00:45] <Elystus> Guest: would you mind changing your name btw. We don't like people to use the name Guest in #minecraftforums.
#185 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> #minecrafthelp
#186 [00:45] <Elystus> it causes a backup of people with the name guest.
#187 [00:45] <Guest> You guys have Herculean wills. Kudos. I would have traced his IP and mailed him an oxygen sensitive pipe bomb.
#188 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> /nick ABetterName
#189 [00:45] <Guest> I can't.
#190 [00:45] <Guest> I tried.
#191 [00:46] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: He is also in #minecraftforums.
#192 [00:46] <Elystus> Guest, really?
#193 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> Guest: What does it say when you try?
#194 [00:46] <Elystus> o.o
#195 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> Get out of the #minecraft channel, and then make the change
#196 [00:46] <|Kiikun|> probably in a chan with Guest banned
#197 [00:46] <Guest> Nothing, it doesn't echo at all.
#198 [00:46] <Cypress> Ah
#199 [00:46] <Cypress> Cool
#200 [00:46] <DiskDaemon> hurrah
#201 [00:47] <Cypress> Thanks
#202 [00:48] <Elystus> \o/
#203 [00:48] <Elystus> Now register it! :D
#204 [00:48] <Cypress> So, I'm trying to make a stand-alone sky transportation device using sticky pistons
#205 [00:48] <DiskDaemon> ahaha.
#206 [00:49] <Elystus> That will be fun.
#207 [00:49] <Cypress> Is that a way of saying impossible?
#208 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> #risucraft is the best channel for assistance with developing mods
#209 [00:49] <DiskDaemon> Oh, it's not a mod you're creating.
#210 [00:49] <Cypress> Nope, I only use vanilla
#211 [00:50] <DiskDaemon> You can do it when the pistons stay in place, where they move you along a diagonal channel, but I haven't seen much else other than that
#212 [00:50] <Cypress> No, I mean, a device that moves itself entirely
#213 [00:50] <Cypress> If you've seen that monorail video
#214 [00:50] <|Kiikun|> its not entirely possible
#215 [00:51] <|Kiikun|> no self-motivating piston device that doesnt have a support structure
#216 [00:51] <Elystus> |Kiikun|: it is... but it is not entirely effective
#217 [00:51] <Elystus> you can walk faster than it.
#218 [00:51] <|Kiikun|> its possible with a block and a lever yes.. but not self-moving
#219 [00:52] <Cypress> Did you see that monorail with the piston engine on it?
#220 [00:52] <|Kiikun|> that big clunker? :3
#221 [00:52] <Cypress> uses a series of red torches
#222 [00:52] <|Kiikun|> groudn for miles filled with repeaters :P
#223 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> Yes. That's on a pre-existing track
#224 [00:52] <Cypress> yeah, I'm more interested in the engineering aspect than the functional one
#225 [00:52] <Cypress> :P
#226 [00:52] * |Kiikun| thought pf statics when mentionign monorail :P
#226 [00:53] <Cypress> Oh, an a question, is TNT the only block that turns into an entity when activated?
#227 [00:53] <|Kiikun|> hmm....
#228 [00:54] * |Kiikun| doublechesk pistons
#228 [00:54] <Cypress> Besides maybe arrows?
#229 [00:54] <|Kiikun|> arrows are never blocks,
#230 [00:54] <DiskDaemon> Is it just blocks to entities that you're interested in then?
#231 [00:54] <Cypress> well, non-mob entities that can be compressed
#232 [00:55] <Cypress> like a compressor compresses tnt in a canon
#233 [00:55] <Cypress> I actually built a pretty nice semi auto canon with a six-piston auto resetting compressor
#234 [00:56] <Cypress> took forever and I know a lot of the circutry was redundant
#235 [00:57] <Cypress> But I'm experimenting with scattering other entities (namely arrows right now) with the shot explosion of a canon
#236 [00:57] <Cypress> if arrows are indeed entities
#237 [00:57] <Cypress> no clue
#238 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> ok no... tnt i think is the only one.
#239 [00:57] <|Kiikun|> exclusing sand a gravel fallign that is
#240 [00:57] <Cypress> ah, okay. Pity. What about liquids, can they be propelled?
#241 [00:58] <|Kiikun|> the block moved by a piston is stored as a tiel entity.. not a regular entity
#242 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> Ethos was doing some videos with experiments where arrows fired in to blocks can then be scattered around
#243 [00:58] <|Kiikun|> arrows can be relaunched by tnt explotion is they are midair
#244 [00:58] <|Kiikun|> same with ender pearls
#245 [00:59] <Cypress> Yeah, I'm working on a massive cannon that uses a six-block compressor to shoot a series of arrows shot from dispensors up into pistos out en mass
#246 [00:59] <Cypress> Ender pearls, eh? Are they effective like this?
#247 [00:59] <|Kiikun|> yes. sethbling used it for a 'magic spell' :P
#248 [00:59] <|Kiikun|> basicly.. tnt, pressure plate, and runnign back to throw at an exact time
#249 [01:00] <Cypress> Hmmmm
#250 [01:00] <Cypress> Do ender pearls activate on water?
#251 [01:00] <|Kiikun|> underwater i believwe
#252 [01:00] <|Kiikun|> they ARE heavilyl affected by water though
#253 [01:00] <Cypress> Underwater tiles, or they just fall to a solid underwater floor
#254 [01:01] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, they fall through water and activate once they land
#255 [01:01] <|Kiikun|> floor
#256 [01:01] <|Kiikun|> it has to hit solid block
#257 [01:01] <|Kiikun|> or somethign with a collosionmask
#258 [01:01] <Cypress> Ohh... hmmm, interesting. Could set it up to throw into a pit of water and have it shot out immediately before landing.
#259 [01:01] * Elystus sees redstone talk and runs away
#259 [01:02] <|Kiikun|> lol
#260 [01:02] <|Kiikun|> not redstone, tnt
#261 [01:02] <DiskDaemon> redstone and danger of blowing up? Funsies.
#262 [01:03] * |Kiichan| [|Kiichan|@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#263 [01:03] * Elystus blows up his world by accident
#263 [01:03] <Elystus> Dammit |Kiichan|
#264 [01:03] <Elystus> ;-;
#265 [01:03] <|Kiichan|> :<
#266 [01:04] <|Kiichan|> sorry?
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#269 [01:04] <Elystus> Lol, if you didn't get it, I suck at redstone
#270 [01:04] <|Kiichan|> btw: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Entity#Further_notes
#271 [01:04] <Cypress> Huh
#272 [01:04] <Cypress> Minecarts are entites... hmmm...
#273 [01:05] <|Kiichan|> ely: its not all that hard.. ive been thinking up a video series (to go with ther 4000 others) on redstone
#274 [01:05] <|Kiichan|> boats too :3
#275 [01:05] <|Kiichan|> and paintings
#276 [01:05] <Cypress> Chest minecart + series of long range canons = rapid item transportation
#277 [01:06] <|Kiichan|> cyp: it will go boom.
#278 [01:06] <Cypress> Even with a water buffer?
#279 [01:06] <DiskDaemon> By the way, I saw played a nice simple short game earlier on that involves logical thinking, at http://www.tomjubert.com/irrational
#280 [01:06] <|Kiichan|> cyp: entity damage is what launches them
#281 [01:07] <Cypress> Ah
#282 [01:07] <|Kiichan|> also... timing the explotions woudl require instantwire
#283 [01:07] <|Kiichan|> you MIGHT get away with it....
#284 [01:07] <|Kiichan|> but powered rail is probably just as fast :P
#285 [01:09] <Cypress> I know this is a different question, but is there any chance of the devs maybe putting liquid pressure into the game at some point?
#286 [01:09] <DiskDaemon> When it comes to powering rails, I prefer to use a switch instead of redstone, to help reduce any redstone lag issues
#287 [01:10] <DiskDaemon> Liquids were better originally, but multiplayer issues (and griefing) put an end to that
#288 [01:10] <Cypress> How did they act before?
#289 [01:10] <DiskDaemon> Liquids would spread and fill in the areas below them too. Cue mountain liquid drops that flood the entire server
#290 [01:11] <|Kiichan|> in Classic.
#291 [01:11] <|Kiichan|> one watersource woudl fill up the entire world with water from that point down
#292 [01:11] <Cypress> Reminds me of DF, lol
#293 [01:12] <Cypress> OMG, we've lost control of the lava tower!!!!
#294 [01:12] <Cypress> Time to gen a new world.
#295 [01:12] <|Kiichan|> ?
#296 [01:13] <|Kiichan|> why?
#297 [01:13] <|Kiichan|> just clean it up :D
#298 [01:13] <Cypress> Well, it wasn't hard to lavaflood a world before z-levels were added.
#299 [01:18] <Cypress> Anyway, it's a quarter after 1 AM here and I'm bushed. Good chatting with you fellows, and thanks for the help. Maybe talk to yall later. Be good!
#300 [01:18] <Elystus> Cya, nice talking with you Cypress
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#302 [01:21] <Serithi> Yo again.
#303 [01:22] <Elystus> o/
#304 [01:22] <Serithi> i finally remember my password. Is there any way i can cancel that email i sent to Customer Support?
#305 [01:22] <DiskDaemon> Nope.
#306 [01:23] <Serithi> K. I'll just send another report then...
#307 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> You can send a second email though saying that everything is resolved, which they should see when they look at things from your same email address
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#309 [01:27] <Timayus> Curious, is there a way to take singleplaeyr mdoe from survival to creative and vice versa?
#310 [01:28] <Andrio> There are mods that do that.
#311 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> There will also be a way in the upcoming 1.3 version
#312 [01:28] <Andrio> Look at Single Player Commands or TooManyItems.
#313 [01:29] <|Kiichan|> or you can use NBT edit and just logout and change rthe world mode
#314 [01:29] <Timayus> ah okay, thanks Andrio, curious any eta on 1.3? and ty kiichan
#315 [01:29] <Andrio> I've heard it's to come out on the first of August.
#316 [01:30] <DiskDaemon> ref: valve time
#317 [01:31] <DiskDaemon> Basically Jeb as said that he wants 1.3 out for Aug 1, but they're not going to stick to that if there are significant issues
#318 [01:31] <Timayus> Of course, now only if other companeis took that policy >.>
#319 [01:31] <Timayus> Thank you all, appricate the help
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#325 [02:09] <Guest> hello, i can't log in through the .exe< its been 4 days now
#326 [02:09] <Elystus> What does it say?
#327 [02:10] <Elystus> Also, are is there anything weird with the launcher?
#328 [02:10] <Guest> just says it cant connect to minecraft.net
#329 [02:10] <Guest> im in nevada< could servers just be down?
#330 [02:10] <|Kiichan|> :login
#331 [02:10] <WugBot> login: Minecraft Login URL: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#332 [02:10] <Guest> i can log in there
#333 [02:10] <|Kiichan|> Guest: what does that url say to you?
#334 [02:10] <Guest> oh,nvm
#335 [02:10] <Guest> bad login
#336 [02:11] <|Kiichan|> ok so not hosts file problem.
#337 [02:11] <|Kiichan|> is java just blocked from being allowed to connect?
#338 [02:11] <Elystus> Guest: are you able to login and play in browser?
#339 [02:11] <|Kiichan|> check your firewall
#340 [02:11] <Guest> no
#341 [02:11] <Guest> i made minecraft.exe trusted
#342 [02:12] <Guest> already
#343 [02:12] <Guest> i use Kaspersky internet security
#344 [02:13] <Guest> hold on, ill check java
#345 [02:13] * DiskDaemon about to sit dwn for dinner
#345 [02:13] <|Kiichan|> i'd sugest maybe reinstallign java as we;;
#346 [02:13] <|Kiichan|> DiskDaemon: im going to bed soon :P
#347 [02:14] <Guest> ill try reinstalling it
#348 [02:14] <Guest> gimme a minute
#349 [02:14] <DiskDaemon> is the bottom part of the launcher with a black background?
#350 [02:14] <DiskDaemon> is there strange text in th upper part of the launcher?
#351 [02:14] <Guest> i can see the news and links< and the bottom part is normal dirt with the Minecraft logo and login
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#353 [02:15] <|Kiichan|> and logging in gives the error?
#354 [02:15] <Guest> yes
#355 [02:15] <Elystus> Can you pastebin said error?
#356 [02:15] <|Kiichan|> oh wait :P
#357 [02:16] <Guest> it just says cant connect to minecraft.net
#358 [02:16] <|Kiichan|> ely: cant connect to minecraft.net
#359 [02:16] <|Kiichan|> login derpery
#360 [02:16] <|Kiichan|> but the login site isnt blocked.
#361 [02:16] <Guest> nope
#362 [02:16] <|Kiichan|> soo.... java derpery (or is being blocked.)
#363 [02:16] <Guest> i can login thorugh the website
#364 [02:16] <Guest> ill see if i can wrestle with my antivirus
#365 [02:17] <|Kiichan|> its more a firewall thing
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#367 [02:17] <Guest> it says java is trusted
#368 [02:18] <Guest> and the .exe
#369 [02:18] <AZ_> Hello, I require assitance with the minecraft game launcher.
#370 [02:18] <Guest> yeah, me too
#371 [02:18] <AZ_> I can't seem to log in
#372 [02:18] <Guest> same
#373 [02:18] <|Kiichan|> !login
#374 [02:18] <AZ_> It says "error connecting to minecraft"
#375 [02:18] <|Kiichan|> :<
#376 [02:18] <AZ_> How ever
#377 [02:18] <|Kiichan|> AZ_: "cant connect to minecraft.net"?
#378 [02:18] <AZ_> It works when I play it via the website
#379 [02:18] <AZ_> Yes
#380 [02:19] <|Kiichan|> the launcher says that when you try to login?
#381 [02:19] <AZ_> Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#382 [02:19] <AZ_> When I try to log in.
#383 [02:19] <Guest> the browser versions of minecraft and classic dont work
#384 [02:19] <AZ_> I have brought that game aswell.
#385 [02:19] <Guest> i just get white screens
#386 [02:19] <AZ_> The browser version works for me.
#387 [02:20] <|Kiichan|> AZ_: what does this ling say to you? https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#388 [02:20] <AZ_> Try deleting Java, and downloading the latest update
#389 [02:20] <|Kiichan|> *link
#390 [02:20] <AZ_> Bad login
#391 [02:20] <|Kiichan|> then your host file is ok...
#392 [02:20] <|Kiichan|> hmm...
#393 [02:21] <AZ_> I made a copy of minecraft.jar, and deleted it, to try force updating.
#394 [02:21] <AZ_> But it won't let me do that, either.
#395 [02:21] <Guest> yep
#396 [02:21] <Guest> ill try reinstalling java
#397 [02:21] <|Kiichan|> soprry.. im not completely awake anymore.. brain going fuzzy
#398 [02:21] <AZ_> I hope the problem is fixed, as the browser version is too resource intensive for me.
#399 [02:22] <AZ_> gets fixed*
#400 [02:22] <|Kiichan|> the only thing i can think of is a firewall or somethign else is blockign java since you can access the login directly
#401 [02:22] <Guest> WHERES THE GODDAMN program manager?
#402 [02:22] <Guest> brb
#403 [02:23] <AZ_> Start control panel
#404 [02:23] <AZ_> Programs and features
#405 [02:23] <AZ_> |Kiichan| do you know how to do that with esset?
#406 [02:24] <|Kiichan|> simplest way to test is to disable the firewall for a few minutes.
#407 [02:24] <|Kiichan|> but ive never used esset
#408 [02:24] <AZ_> Nope, still doesn't work.
#409 [02:24] <|Kiichan|> or kapersky
#410 [02:25] <Wug> ipv6?
#411 [02:25] <Wug> :java/ipv6 > |Kiichan|
#412 [02:25] <WugBot> |Kiichan|: (java/ipv6) Java 7 defaults to using ipv6 connections over ipv4 whenever possible. This can sometimes interfere with minecraft on systems where ipv6 is present but nonfunctional.
#413 [02:25] <WugBot> |Kiichan|: (java/ipv6) To force java to prefer ipv4 over ipv6, include the following option on the command line or in your java preferences, or ask a helper for assistance: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
#414 [02:25] <AZ_> I disabled everything, and it still won't let me connect.
#415 [02:26] <|Kiichan|> oh right
#416 [02:26] <Wug> guide him through trying that
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#418 [02:26] <DiskDaemon> bad login - is that when logging in, or connecting to a server?
#419 [02:26] <|Kiichan|> az, guest: you guys happen to know how to make batch files?
#420 [02:27] <AZ_> Note pade, save as .bat?
#421 [02:27] <|Kiichan|> DiskDaemon: that was by the login url
#422 [02:27] <AZ_> pad*
#423 [02:27] <|Kiichan|> AZ_: yup.
#424 [02:27] <AZ_> You're not going to get me to delete system 32 are you?
#425 [02:28] <|Kiichan|> no.
#426 [02:28] <|Kiichan|> my brains drawing a blank on the java command format... x.x
#427 [02:28] <|Kiichan|> DiskDaemon: you had the wikipage right?
#428 [02:28] <AZ_> What does this mean? 1333544508000:deprecated:AZOMBIEBOY
#429 [02:28] <DiskDaemon> java -jar minecraft.exe
#430 [02:28] <AZ_> The next is a hash, but I won't show you guys that - my password.
#431 [02:29] <|Kiichan|> AZ_: that means you logged in correctly. thats the raw info from the server the game uses :3
#432 [02:29] <|Kiichan|> you shoudlnt have pasted that though :P
#433 [02:29] <DiskDaemon> ?? error/badlogin
#434 [02:29] <VoxelHead> error/badlogin: Failed to login: Bad login
#435 [02:29] <VoxelHead> error/badlogin: This error message occurs when logging in to an smp server fails because the server was unable to verify the client's login info. Frequently caused by piracy, as the client will not have a valid login, but also caused if someone logs in with the same username from 2 clients at once. Be sure you purchased the game, and only run minecraft once at a time.
#436 [02:29] <AZ_> Kiichan, what do I have to do?
#437 [02:31] * DiskDaemon currently trying to use ipad to remotely control pc while away from it *frustration*
#437 [02:31] <|Kiichan|> -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true is a command line parameter for java
#438 [02:32] <|Kiichan|> it tells java to use ipv4 instead of ipv6.. thats probably what the problem is
#439 [02:32] <AZ_> Save it as .bat?
#440 [02:32] <|Kiichan|> you have to use it like you use -xmx to alter memory.. but im to tired to think straight right now x.x
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#442 [02:32] <|Kiichan|> oh.. wait.. i have a bat for memory :P
#443 [02:32] <AZ_> Anything.bat ?
#444 [02:33] <Brett> Why do i Have no sound?
#445 [02:33] <Wug> its something like "java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -cp minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#446 [02:33] <|Kiichan|> AZ_: java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#447 [02:33] <Wug> ninjad
#448 [02:33] <|Kiichan|> heh
#449 [02:33] <Brett> What Do i DO?
#450 [02:34] <Wug> Brett: you probably need to install your audio drivers
#451 [02:34] <AZ_> What should I save it as?
#452 [02:34] <DiskDaemon> |Kiichan|: this wiki page? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting
#453 [02:34] <AZ_> Anything?
#454 [02:34] <Wug> AZ_: something.bat
#455 [02:34] <|Kiichan|> AZ_: filename doesnt matter
#456 [02:34] <Brett> Where do I Get them?
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#458 [02:34] <Wug> Brett: ask |Kiichan|
#459 [02:34] <Wug> I unfortunately have to go to bed
#460 [02:34] <AZ_> Still doesn't work
#461 [02:34] <AZ_> I still can't connect :(
#462 [02:34] <|Kiichan|> Brett: are all your sound settings not turned off or muted
#463 [02:35] <Brett> Yes 100% ON
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#465 [02:35] <Brett> I am On a Mac
#466 [02:35] <AZ_> Still Can't connect to minecraft.net
#467 [02:35] <Brett> so I don't Know what Happend
#468 [02:36] <|Kiichan|> ... ok i have no idea on macs...
#469 [02:36] <Brett> NO :(
#470 [02:36] <AZ_> Kiichan, I can still play via browser
#471 [02:36] <DiskDaemon> ?? cantconnect
#472 [02:37] <AZ_> Me too
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#474 [02:37] <DiskDaemon> ?? error/cantconnect
#475 [02:37] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: Cannot connect to minecraft.net
#476 [02:37] <Brett> I am Running the Jave so Can you Help
#477 [02:37] <|Kiichan|> disk: the launcher wont connect to the login server.
#478 [02:37] <VoxelHead> error/cantconnect: This error can occur for a number of reasons, including outdated java config, incorrect system time, or firewall issues. To fix it, make sure the system time is correct, check that java is allowed to access the internet, and if that fails, uninstall and reinstall java.
#479 [02:37] * |Kiichan| is going to bed.
#479 [02:38] <AZ_> I uninstalled and reinstalled Java a few times
#480 [02:38] <AZ_> System time is correct
#481 [02:39] <DiskDaemon> AZ_ can we see a screenshot when you get that error? There can be some clues or us there
#482 [02:39] <DiskDaemon> /me rages at ipad interface for controlling pc
#483 [02:41] <AZ_> http://prntscr.com/bwkrs
#484 [02:42] <AZ_> Is that okay?
#485 [02:42] <DiskDaemon> yes thanks. can we get an error report for when the issue occurs
#486 [02:43] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#487 [02:43] <AZ_> How do I do that?
#488 [02:43] <DiskDaemon> ninja'd :)
#489 [02:44] <Elystus> :P
#490 [02:44] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#491 [02:44] <Elystus> night disk :)
#492 [02:44] <DiskDaemon> night, i'll head up to the computer shortly
#493 [02:44] <Andrio> lol Ely
#494 [02:45] <DiskDaemon> if i tpe oo gss on thr a tben wr enr u with texths look likr thes
#495 [02:45] <TKGP_DS> :[
#496 [02:45] <DiskDaemon> that's whn i try o type too fast on the pad. grr.
#497 [02:46] <DiskDaemon> dammit, goodbyr ipad. i'm inp o t c.
#498 [02:46] <DiskDaemon> going up to the pc.
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#500 [02:46] <Guest> all right im back
#501 [02:48] <DiskDaemon> Okay, I'm back at the PC with a real keyboard beneath my fingers. The ipad is good for consuming content, but isn't really all that useful for when you're trying to do things
#502 [02:48] <AZ_> Gah this is annoying. It didn't happen to me yesterday ;_;
#503 [02:48] <DiskDaemon> ?? causality
#504 [02:49] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#505 [02:49] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#506 [02:49] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, interesting, but not all that useful.
#507 [02:49] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: How's that error report coming along?
#508 [02:50] <AZ_> It's not working
#509 [02:50] <DiskDaemon> What part of things doesn't work?
#510 [02:51] <AZ_> It says "Error occurred during initialization of VM" "Could not reserve enough space for object heap"
#511 [02:51] <DiskDaemon> Interesting - I'll see what help I can find for that
#512 [02:53] <DiskDaemon> AZ: This could be caused because you may be using the 32-bit java on a 64-bit operating system
#513 [02:54] <AZ_> I have a 32 bit OS
#514 [02:54] <DiskDaemon> investigations continue then
#515 [02:54] <AZ_> Wait, how do I check, I recently rebuilt my tower
#516 [02:54] <AZ_> Because of a problem with mother board
#517 [02:54] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: Give us a dxdiag report, that will tell us
#518 [02:54] <DiskDaemon> ??> AZ_: win/dxdiag
#519 [02:54] <VoxelHead> AZ_:: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#520 [02:54] <VoxelHead> AZ_:: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#521 [02:59] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: Others have that issue when they use a command to start minecraft that specifies an inappropriate amount (too much) of memory to use? Are you using such a command?
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#525 [03:03] <AZ_> http://pastebin.com/gNmU0D5z
#526 [03:03] <AZ_> That's the DxDiag
#527 [03:03] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that's a 32-bit operating system.
#528 [03:04] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: Others have that issue when they use a command to start minecraft that specifies an inappropriate amount (too much) of memory to use? Are you using such a command?
#529 [03:04] <AZ_> Not that I know of
#530 [03:04] <AZ_> I've never had to
#531 [03:05] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: Even though I was here earlier I was severely distracted by trying to interface with the ipad and having other humans around distracting me. Let's take this from the top.
#532 [03:05] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: Please reinstall minecraft first before we move on with other things.
#533 [03:05] <AZ_> Okay
#534 [03:05] <DiskDaemon> ??> AZ_: win/reinst
#535 [03:05] <VoxelHead> AZ_:: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#536 [03:05] <VoxelHead> AZ_:: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#537 [03:05] <AZ_> Force update?
#538 [03:05] <DiskDaemon> Not a force update
#539 [03:07] <AZ_> I still can't connect to minecraft.net :(
#540 [03:07] <AZ_> I deleted all of the .minecraft folders, including .minecraft
#541 [03:08] <rev-lemon> az_ have you disabled your firewall ?
#542 [03:08] <AZ_> Yes, but that didn't work either.
#543 [03:08] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: Where did you get your minecraft.exe file from?
#544 [03:10] <AZ_> It's a modded one with mods such as optifine
#545 [03:10] <AZ_> and the mini map
#546 [03:10] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#547 [03:10] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#548 [03:10] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#549 [03:10] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: Use the vanilla Minecraft and we can continue to help.
#550 [03:10] <AZ_> I deleted all of the minecraft files
#551 [03:11] <DiskDaemon> Okay, run the minecraft.exe launcher to log in, and let it update itself with a clean update.
#552 [03:12] <AZ_> I'm still unable to login
#553 [03:12] <DiskDaemon> AZ: Let's get that error report now.
#554 [03:12] <DiskDaemon> AZ: Where is your minecraft.exe file located?
#555 [03:12] <AZ_> How do I do that?
#556 [03:12] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: Where is your minecraft.exe file located?
#557 [03:12] <AZ_> I moved it from /downloads to a new folder on desktop which I named MC
#558 [03:13] <DiskDaemon> Okay, open the command prompt and type this: cd desktop\MC
#559 [03:13] <AZ_> Yup
#560 [03:13] <DiskDaemon> Now type: java -jar minecraft.exe
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#562 [03:14] <AZ_> '-jar' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. C:\Users\PC\Desktop\MC>
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#564 [03:14] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: The word "java" needs to start the line there.
#565 [03:15] <AZ_> Sorry I didn't see the Java :p
#566 [03:15] <AZ_> derp
#567 [03:15] <AZ_> Okay it opened the minecraft.exe launcher
#568 [03:16] <DiskDaemon> Good. Let the connect issue occur, and the command prompt should have losts of extra details for us
#569 [03:16] <AZ_> It didn't do anything in the command prompt
#570 [03:16] <DiskDaemon> That's fine, that means something too.
#571 [03:16] <AZ_> :(
#572 [03:17] <AZ_> What should I do now?
#573 [03:17] <DiskDaemon> First we find out what you see when you visit https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#574 [03:18] <AZ_> Bad login
#575 [03:18] <DiskDaemon> good
#576 [03:19] <DiskDaemon> There really is very little that interferes with Minecraft connecting to minecraft.net - the firewall can be one, your computer user name doesn't contain strange characters either.
#577 [03:19] <DiskDaemon> AZ_: The IPv6 issue seems to have been tested earlier too, but we'll do that now for good measure.
#578 [03:20] <AZ_> Okay
#579 [03:20] <DiskDaemon> Run miencraft from the command prompt again, this time using: java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#580 [03:20] <AZ_> Copy paste the whole thing?
#581 [03:20] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#582 [03:21] <AZ_> No :(
#583 [03:21] <AZ_> Can't connect to minecraft.net
#584 [03:21] <DiskDaemon> You said that you're recently built the computer. What does the date command say from the command prompt? Type: date
#585 [03:22] <AZ_> The current date is: Wed 07/11/2012
#586 [03:22] <DiskDaemon> And lastly, what version of java is reported to you when you use: java -version
#587 [03:22] <AZ_> Enter the new date
#588 [03:23] <DiskDaemon> Just press Enter to leave the date as it currently is
#589 [03:23] <AZ_> 1.7.0_05
#590 [03:23] <AZ_> Build 21.3
#591 [03:23] <AZ_> Mixed mode, sharing
#592 [03:23] <DiskDaemon> And that's the troubleshooting come to an end. There is nothing more that I can do to help you with your problem.
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#594 [03:24] <AZ_> :( so I can't play minecraft?
#595 [03:24] <Wug> AZ_: have you ever played successfully before
#596 [03:24] <DiskDaemon> Assuming that all you have been saying is factual and true, I know of no other ways to fix your problem.
#597 [03:24] <AZ_> Yes
#598 [03:24] <AZ_> I played yesterday
#599 [03:24] <Necrodoom> wont downgrabing java work?
#600 [03:25] <AZ_> The only thing that I had changed today
#601 [03:25] <snow_creeper> can someone tell me how to install a mod?
#602 [03:25] <AZ_> Was I deleted my old Java
#603 [03:25] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: No - that only fixes memory stability issues
#604 [03:25] <AZ_> And redownloaded the newest version
#605 [03:25] <Wug> AZ_: im going to bed soon
#606 [03:25] <Wug> I keep saying that
#607 [03:25] <Wug> get teamviewer
#608 [03:25] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: And that's in terms of the Classic version of Minecraft
#609 [03:25] <AZ_> Alright
#610 [03:26] <AZ_> ?
#611 [03:26] <Wug> im checking your clock
#612 [03:26] <Wug> setting it wrong can prevent connections
#613 [03:26] <AZ_> Ahh
#614 [03:27] <Wug> quickly with the teamviewer
#615 [03:27] <Wug> I have to be up for work in like 4 hours
#616 [03:27] <snow_creeper> can someone tell me how to install a mod?
#617 [03:27] <Wug> snow_creeper: ask in #Direwolf20
#618 [03:27] <DiskDaemon> snow_creeper: Sure.
#619 [03:28] <DiskDaemon> snow_creeper: Instructions for you are over at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
#620 [03:28] <AZ_> Wug
#621 [03:28] <Wug> AZ_
#622 [03:28] <AZ_> I've got Team viewer up
#623 [03:28] <AZ_> What do I have to do now?
#624 [03:28] <DiskDaemon> Ooh, direwolf20 - I'll remember that one
#625 [03:28] <Wug> send me the id and password
#626 [03:29] <snow_creeper> ok i will ask you if i have any problems
#627 [03:29] <AZ_> I sent to you in PM
#628 [03:30] <Wug> AZ_: im going to bed. come back tomorrow
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#634 [03:50] <AZ_> I'm back
#635 [03:50] <AZ_> Gah
#636 [03:51] <AZ_> Can anyone else help me with the problem?
#637 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> I wish that I could, but all solutions that I'm aware of for that problem aren't helping you.
#638 [03:52] <AZ_> Do you have Team Viewer?
#639 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> No, because it costs me lots of $$$ to use such software
#640 [03:53] * AmberK £££
#640 [03:53] <AZ_> It's free isn't it? :p
#641 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> The program is free, the bandwidth isn't.
#642 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> and while I don't want to be mean about things, here in New Zealand we have to pay an expensive amount for every byte of data that we transfer.
#643 [04:12] <zack6849> hey DiskDaemon what did AZ_ need help with?
#644 [04:12] <AZ_> Minecraft
#645 [04:12] <AZ_> Connecting to minecraft.net
#646 [04:13] <AZ_> On launcher
#647 [04:13] <zack6849> wont let you? D:
#648 [04:13] <zack6849> is it the dns thing again?
#649 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> It's a can't connect issue when trying to login via the launcher. Firewall, time, java version, ipv6, pc username and more all have been checked and seem to be right
#650 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> No, the dns thing affects multiplayer when trying to connect to a server, with a different error message about session.minecraft.net
#651 [04:14] <zack6849> did you have him try and ping the session servers?
#652 [04:14] <zack6849> oh
#653 [04:14] <zack6849> thats odd.
#654 [04:14] <AZ_> zack do you have team viewer?
#655 [04:14] <zack6849> yes i do.
#656 [04:14] <AZ_> Wug was going to do it, but I had to go eat dinner.
#657 [04:14] <AZ_> Okay I'll PM you
#658 [04:14] <zack6849> what exactly am i ussposed to be doing in teamviwer?
#659 [04:15] <AZ_> Idk, see if there's anything I haven't done yet D:
#660 [04:18] <snow_creeper> hey there, i'm having problems installing a mod. I have opened minecraft.jar in 7zip. How do i move the mod files into minecraft.jar?
#661 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> ??> snow_creeper mods
#662 [04:20] <VoxelHead> snow_creeper: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#663 [04:20] <VoxelHead> snow_creeper: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
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#665 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> snow_creeper: There is the #direwolf20 channel that deals with mods though
#666 [04:24] <zack6849> DiskDaemon,
#667 [04:24] <zack6849> i found his issue
#668 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> yep?
#669 [04:24] <zack6849> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1272557-no-internet-access-with-latest-version-of-java-jre/#entry15705888
#670 [04:24] <zack6849> fixing it now :3
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#672 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> That internet issue is when Java is trying to use IPv6 instead of IPv4, which we seem to have already checked.
#673 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> Let me know when you have things working there.
#674 [04:25] <dearn> Hello, just to make sure - is this good place to ask question about Minecraft? :-)
#675 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> The #minecraft is a good place to ask about minecraft
#676 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> What sort of question dod you have for us?
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#678 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> dearn: Normally we try to troubleshoort installatio issues for people here, but when things are slow we can dicuss other things too
#679 [04:27] <dearn> well I'm not owned of Minecraft and was looking to buy it, but 27$ is bit too much for me right now so I checked e-bay clone in Poland and someone is selling Minecraft premium accounts for 1/4th of price, and wanted to make sure its legal
#680 [04:28] <dearn> someone in comments there said his account got banned when he changed password which sound bit weird to me so wanted to make sure:)
#681 [04:28] <TheNoodle> Legal yes, a scam also yes.
#682 [04:28] <DiskDaemon> dearn: The 1.3 version that's supposed to be coming out at the start of August will have a demo mode built in to it
#683 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> ?? fraud
#684 [04:29] <VoxelHead> fraud: DO NOT buy Minecraft from any third parties! http://mojang.com/2011/04/26/achtung-uwaga-attention/
#685 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> ?? scam
#686 [04:30] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#687 [04:30] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#688 [04:30] <dearn> OK thanks, glad I've asked then
#689 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> dearn: As you might imagine, we commonly et pissed off people in here who have lost their premium status, because they purchased from fraudsters.
#690 [04:31] <dearn> well can Imagine now, thats why I wanted to ask before buying anything
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#692 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> We're not Mojang trying to protect our investment either, here. We're just community volunteers who aren't associated with Mojang in any way.
#693 [04:32] <dearn> Just want to try it so badly after seeing http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/wcz64/mincraft_game_of_thrones_now_drool/ so amazing
#694 [04:33] <zack6849> dearn
#695 [04:33] <zack6849> you can play singleplayer for free
#696 [04:34] <zack6849> multi requires a valid acount
#697 [04:34] <zack6849> or a cracked server
#698 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> zack6849: Playing single player in Minecraft 1.2.5 requires the purchase of a premium account.
#699 [04:34] <dearn> Do you mean outdated client on website? for free?
#700 [04:35] <zack6849> no dearn
#701 [04:35] <Necrodoom> all that exists is classic, aswell as an outdated demo
#702 [04:35] <zack6849> disk
#703 [04:35] <zack6849> you can hit play offline
#704 [04:35] <zack6849> and itll let you
#705 [04:35] <Necrodoom> you have to validate it first
#706 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> zack6849: That requires logging in first to download the Minecraft files.,
#707 [04:35] <zack6849> also i tried to fix AZ
#708 [04:35] <Necrodoom> with a premium account
#709 [04:35] <zack6849> the batch file didnt work the first time
#710 [04:35] <zack6849> went to edit it
#711 [04:35] <zack6849> he kicked me
#712 [04:35] <zack6849> then i reccomended downgrading to 6
#713 [04:36] <zack6849> so i cant really say weather or not it worked
#714 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> That's the first we've heard about a batch file. Oh well.
#715 [04:36] <zack6849> i didnt come up with tghe solution
#716 [04:36] <TheNoodle> zack6849, recommending ways to pirate minecraft will get you banned.
#717 [04:36] <zack6849> was on the thread i like you
#718 [04:36] <DiskDaemon> We don't support any illegal activities here.
#719 [04:36] <zack6849> i wasnt recoomending piracy!
#720 [04:37] <TheNoodle> !kick zack6849 Yes, you were.
#721 [04:37] <DiskDaemon> It good to get that cleared up then :_)
#722 [04:37] * TheNoodle sighs
#722 [04:37] <zack6849> .........
#723 [04:37] * TheNoodle slaps AuBot`
#723 [04:37] <dearn> So just to make sure
#724 [04:37] <dearn> Singleplayer is not available legaly for free right now, should be with 1.3 in August right?
#725 [04:37] <DiskDaemon> Correct.
#726 [04:38] <dearn> + is Minecraft free2play or is there some kind of subscription etc?
#727 [04:38] <zack6849> you pay once
#728 [04:38] <Necrodoom> you pay once
#729 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> zack6849L You were muted before for using too many identical characters at the same time. The full stops.
#730 [04:38] <zack6849> you get all updates from then on free
#731 [04:39] <dearn> ok thank you:)
#732 [04:39] <zack6849> how am i even still here?
#733 [04:39] <dearn> is minecraft classic really different from new one?
#734 [04:39] <zack6849> yes
#735 [04:39] <zack6849> very very diffrent
#736 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> The classic version is a very old early version of the game.
#737 [04:40] <zack6849> since then they added more monstersm readstone, new locks, new game physics, and more mechanical things
#738 [04:40] <zack6849> *redstone, monster, blocks
#739 [04:41] <Necrodoom> classic had no mobs
#740 [04:41] <Necrodoom> nor survival
#741 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> Some info on the Classic version is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft#Classic
#742 [04:41] <zack6849> by the way, just curious why would i be banned if notch himself says if you cant affor minecraft hes okay with you trying it out?
#743 [04:41] <dearn> ok one more thing, can you get refund if youre not happy with it? trying to google something right now
#744 [04:41] <zack6849> dearn i dont think you can
#745 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> zack6849: Because we are not ruled by Notch.
#746 [04:41] <Necrodoom> havent seen anyone who managed to get a refund
#747 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> zack6849: He also said in the same breath, "Please don’t interpret this text as me being fine with people pirating Minecraft. I’d MUCH rather have people pay for it so I can reinvest in hiring people and developing more cool games in the future. "
#748 [04:43] <zack6849> yes, but pirating it doesnt really mean you dont ever plan on buying it, i personally played it in a not-so-legal way for about 2 days then bought it
#749 [04:44] <dearn> well, I'm not really rich guy but I don't like to pirate ,but I also dont feel like spending 27$ for product I might not like is good idea
#750 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> zack6849: That is your personal situation, which is different from how things in this channel are done. We do not support the idea of piracy for Minecraft here.
#751 [04:44] <dearn> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund- seems you cannot get refund if not satisfied :(
#752 [04:45] <zack6849> thats a shame
#753 [04:45] <zack6849> cant really recomend anything
#754 [04:46] <zack6849> i would reccomend classic but because you like classic doenst necessarily mean you would like the actual release
#755 [04:46] <zack6849> and vice versa, i dont like classic but love the new versions
#756 [04:46] <zack6849> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
#757 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> zack6849: Repeated letters again, try not to do that.
#758 [04:47] <dearn> any ideas if there will be summer sale or lower price with new release?:)
#759 [04:47] <zack6849> i was moving a 8gb file over homegroup to my laptop
#760 [04:47] <zack6849> was over 80% done after 4 hours
#761 [04:47] <zack6849> somone just shut off that pc
#762 [04:47] <Necrodoom> there seems to be a monster egg that can spawn minecarts
#763 [04:47] <zack6849> now i have to move it all over again. yay. -_-
#764 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> The price of Minecraft hasn't changed. It was half price during alpha development, and more during beta development, and has always been the same $20 euros since release.
#765 [04:48] <zack6849> Necrodoom, there are also ones that are labled for projectiles, primed tnt, and other entites
#766 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> pardon, not $20, but €20 euros
#767 [04:48] <Necrodoom> seems they dont work, though
#768 [04:48] <zack6849> however if you right click with them nothing really happens
#769 [04:48] <Andrio> I found one that spawns experience orbs.
#770 [04:48] <zack6849> does it actually function?
#771 [04:48] <Andrio> The orbs don't do jack, though.
#772 [04:48] <dearn> ohhh
#773 [04:48] <zack6849> thats surprising
#774 [04:48] <dearn> so it is 27$ or 25 euro
#775 [04:49] <zack6849> ive enever seen one that really spawned anything
#776 [04:49] <dearn> or 20euro **
#777 [04:49] <dearn> thats nice bit cheaper:)
#778 [04:49] <Necrodoom> meta 2 is exp orb
#779 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> dearn: If it says $27 dollars then you will pay 27 dollars. If it says 20 Euros then you will pay 20 Euros.
#780 [04:49] <Necrodoom> meta 1 is "item
#781 [04:49] <Necrodoom> meta 40 is minecart one
#782 [04:49] <dearn> its http://www.minecraft.net/store here, but when I click it and choose my country its in Euro
#783 [04:50] * zack6849 is getting more parts for his computer tiomorrow
#783 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> Then you will pay in Euros, and you will pay the equivalent amount in your own currency for that.
#784 [04:51] <dearn> Ok, thank you for your help, advice and time guys:) I will probably check bit more classic (as I didnt really play yet, just that game of thrones pics haha) and might buy after
#785 [04:51] <dearn> Any idea if I should report that auction somewhere if its not 100% legal?
#786 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> dearn: Be sure to check out the demo version in the 1.3 version too.
#787 [04:51] <zack6849> far too many fakes to be reported
#788 [04:53] <dearn> I think he is selling 1 account to multiple people, as in his 'terms of use' on his auction it says you cannot change password, and if you will he will ban your account or smth
#789 [04:54] <DiskDaemon> dearn: That sounds common. When the account or payment is found to be a frudulent one, it's revoked, and everybody who bought it end up losing out.
#790 [04:55] <Necrodoom> dearn: that sounds like a complete scam
#791 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> dearn: You should be able to report such fraudulet autions to the auction web site itself
#792 [04:56] <dearn> well just wanted to make sure if its legal or not first:) seems he has 97% of positive comments (transactions) and he is giving 2 months guarantee after buying
#793 [04:56] <Necrodoom> if he is so safe, he would let your change pass
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#795 [04:56] <Necrodoom> instead of saying random bullshit
#796 [04:57] <DiskDaemon> dearn: All I can say is that in the experience we have with people in this channel, all sales that don't occur through minecraft.net web site end up in tears.
#797 [04:57] <dearn> kinda funny btw... people are selling gift codes (which I guess are legal) for 100PLN, where on minecraft.net it will be abot ~84PLN when you buy in Euro lol:)
#798 [04:58] <zack6849> well if you buy it and the code isnt legut you're screwed
#799 [04:58] <zack6849> *legit
#800 [04:59] <DiskDaemon> Also, if you buy it you may receive a legit code, but the person who paid for it can revoke the payment, or if on a stolen card the payment can be revoked too, leaving you with a code that no longer works, and no account either.
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#802 [04:59] <dearn> well If I buy I will buy it from minecraft.net as its cheaper anyway, was just browsing auctions:)
#803 [05:00] <zen> If you are buing an "account" for a game always buy it from official sources
#804 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> It's the best guarantee of a problem free experience.
#805 [05:01] <dearn> well... I bought Starcraft II and Warcraft from Auction and it was much cheaper, but I was buying serial keys not accounts
#806 [05:01] <dearn> and never had any problems for lets say 4 years now
#807 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> We don't want you back in here in two months time, saying that you've lost your Premium status and are no longer allowed to play
#808 [05:02] <zen> There's always a first time
#809 [05:02] <dearn> haha:-)
#810 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> It happens too., especially when a public update occurs to the game
#811 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> People without legitamate accounts get caught with their pants down, and the sight really isn't pretty.
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#813 [05:07] <dearn> bye bye
#814 [05:07] <zack6849> adios
#815 [05:08] <zack6849> oh DiskDaemon whats the diff between a power n/off button and a reset button?
#816 [05:08] <zack6849> im upgrading my cae andit has a reset button, no idea what thats supposed to do
#817 [05:09] <zack6849> *case
#818 [05:09] <DiskDaemon> Then power off button turns it off. The reset button turns it off then on again.
#819 [05:09] <zack6849> oh so its like a quick reboot button
#820 [05:09] <Necrodoom> yes
#821 [05:09] <zack6849> mkay then xD
#822 [05:09] <DiskDaemon> Commonly though, the reset button is NOT a safe way to reboot. It pulls all the power (no safe shutdown) and restart the computer.
#823 [05:10] <DiskDaemon> The reset button is for when the computer freezes up completely, and isn't capable of responding to you.
#824 [05:10] <zack6849> if its unsafe why the heck is it on the case? o_0
#825 [05:10] <zack6849> oh okay
#826 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> How it behaves can sometimes be adjusted in the bios - but normally, it's a non-safe way as a last resort.
#827 [05:11] <zack6849> also how much better is UEFI vs normal bios?
#828 [05:11] <Necrodoom> like in old computers
#829 [05:11] <Necrodoom> hold shutdown button for 3 sec for unsafe shutdown
#830 [05:11] <zack6849> yeah thats how i do that
#831 [05:12] <zack6849> because i currently have a crappy stcok hp case.
#832 [05:12] <zack6849> upgrading to a NZXT phantom
#833 [05:12] <zack6849> god, so many typos
#834 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> go wit UEFI if you can, it's a greater better improvement over the old system
#835 [05:12] <zack6849> yeah, my new motherboard comes with UEFI
#836 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Efi_flowchart_extended.svg
#837 [05:13] <zack6849> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280
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#839 [05:39] <DiskDaemon> Speaking of UEFI, http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Aldi-PC-becomes-first-retail-PC-with-UEFI-Secure-Boot-1635893.html
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#842 [05:55] <Calinou> lol
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#844 [06:09] <Snowl> Hey guys, is there any way I can change my minecraft email?
#845 [06:09] <Calinou> don't think you can do this
#846 [06:10] <Calinou> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#847 [06:10] <Calinou> ah, you can, under certain conditions
#848 [06:14] <Snowl> there is a problem
#849 [06:14] <Snowl> i got hacked, and my email password got changed
#850 [06:14] <Snowl> so I cant change my email
#851 [06:15] <Calinou> "If you cannot access your old email address:"
#852 [06:15] <Calinou> "If you have not migrated your account, you have a typo in your email, or if for some reason you do not have access to your original account, please locate the transaction ID or gift code from when the account was purchased so we can verify account ownership, and click HERE to contact Mojang support."
#853 [06:15] <Snowl> oh ok ty
#854 [06:16] <DiskDaemon> Snowl: Just out of curiosity, why didn't you read that part from the page that Calinou linked you to?
#855 [06:16] <Snowl> Uh, I'm trying to help my friend since he got hacked
#856 [06:16] <Snowl> he doesn't know how to use irc, and I wasn't paying attention
#857 [06:18] * DiskDaemon nods
#857 [06:18] <Snowl> sorry about that
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#859 [06:20] <Drewster_X> Hello, I am having trouble importing my Minecraft account to mojang.com. I get this message "Error! You must verify your e-mail before you can proceed." If I go on minecraft.net and click verify e-mail, it says I have already done it...???
#860 [06:20] <Drewster_X> Hello, I am having trouble importing my Minecraft account to mojang.com. I get this message "Error! You must verify your e-mail before you can proceed." If I go on minecraft.net and click verify e-mail, it says I have already done it...???
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#863 [06:21] <zack6849> Drewster_X,
#864 [06:21] <zack6849> you need to actually check your email
#865 [06:22] <Drewster_X> I have... And i have verifyed it before in the past
#866 [06:22] <zack6849> odd.
#867 [06:22] <zack6849> well
#868 [06:22] <zack6849> usually for the account migration process
#869 [06:22] <zack6849> it sends a new verification
#870 [06:22] <zack6849> have you checked after the mgtation process?
#871 [06:23] <DiskDaemon> Drewster_X: Which mail server do you use for your emails?
#872 [06:23] <Drewster_X> No it wont let me do tbe migration process as i dont have a verifyed email... (minecraft.net says I do)
#873 [06:23] <Drewster_X> Gmai
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#875 [06:24] <DiskDaemon> Drewster_X: Please check in the spam section of gmail, in case it accidentally ended up in there.
#876 [06:24] <DiskDaemon> Drewster_X: Would you like to know how to get to that spam section?
#877 [06:24] <Drewster_X> Thats a good point, hang on.
#878 [06:26] <DiskDaemon> You can also search mal, spam and trash all at the same time, for Mojang perhaps, by using the instructions at http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=8872
#879 [06:26] <Drewster_X> Yeah it isn't in the spam section :/.
#880 [06:26] <zack6849> it seems as if DiskDaemon has this handled, im going to go back to cleaning out my pc
#881 [06:27] <Drewster_X> I could try switching my email to a new account, then latter switching it back...
#882 [06:28] <DiskDaemon> Drewster_X: Fixing the problem that you're currently having is a better solution
#883 [06:28] <DiskDaemon> Drewster_X: If you're not receiving the email, it's possible that someone else has changed the email address from yours to their own.
#884 [06:28] <Drewster_X> That is true, but I have found no way to verify an email on mojang.com
#885 [06:29] <Drewster_X> Nope i tryed changing my email on the account... It said this email is allready in use.
#886 [06:30] <DiskDaemon> Drewster_X: How would you like us to help you then?
#887 [06:32] <Drewster_X> Ohh I think it is sorted... I used this link (https://account.mojang.com/migrate) instead of clicking the button on my profile saying (Migrate your Minecraft account). It seems to have worked, thanks for your help any way :).
#888 [06:32] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#889 [06:32] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#892 [06:41] <DiskDaemon> Hrm, interesting. I just migrated my account now, and mojang.com says I haven't bought any gift codes, while minecraft.net shows all 5 gift codes, one of which has been redeemed.
#893 [06:42] <LilLucy> Nice find
#894 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> I might mention that to marc the next time I see him
#895 [06:43] * LilLucy grins
#895 [06:43] * LilLucy grins
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#896 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> In fact, he was saying that he's recently swamped by emails, so I might make do things more officially and give him another email to worry about too
#897 [06:49] <LilLucy> lol
#898 [07:01] <DiskDaemon> In fact, I sent him two emails because I wanted to confirm with him my transaction id details too, just in case, you know.
#899 [07:02] <LilLucy> :3
#900 [07:02] <DiskDaemon> Which I'm sure that he'll be overjoyed to hear about when I next run in to him
#901 [07:03] <LilLucy> About "Oh noes my minecraft account is gawn"
#902 [07:04] <DiskDaemon> It may just be that accounts are migrated over, while gift codes remain specific to the type of account they were purchased with. But it's quite the surprise to have, and having a help article that helps to assuage such concerns if that is the case, would be helpful and useful too.
#903 [07:05] <LilLucy> :p
#904 [07:06] <DiskDaemon> It shouldn't feel this good, having such genuine reasons to give poor old marc even mor work to do
#905 [07:07] <LilLucy> ^
#906 [07:07] <LilLucy> Feel bad DiskDaemon! Feel guilty!
#907 [07:07] <Necrodoom> shows them how they are messing everything up, because they never test
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#909 [07:10] <DiskDaemon> Yes, I'd better not enjoy this too much. I might want to do more of it if I do that
#910 [07:10] <LilLucy> Trends· Change #KnowYourSetswana SACP Denny Crane #Humpday
#911 [07:10] <LilLucy> .
#912 [07:11] <DiskDaemon> pardon?
#913 [07:12] <LilLucy> http://t.co/V8KtWGMB
#914 [07:12] <DiskDaemon> What's a setswana?
#915 [07:13] <LilLucy> I think some african language
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#917 [07:14] <DiskDaemon> Spoken in Southern Africa, also known of as Twsana. Official language of Botswana. But what's the relevance?
#918 [07:15] <LilLucy> i have no idea
#919 [07:15] <LilLucy> It's a trend.. apparently
#920 [07:15] <DiskDaemon> A trend? Trending on what?
#921 [07:15] <LilLucy> Twitter..
#922 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> Google only shows 4 results for "knowyoursetswana" :)
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#926 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> Who here thinks that on a 64-bit OS using the 64-bit Internet Explorer, that the java.com download page will give you the 64-bit version of java?
#927 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> Aha! I've just found my achillies heel. I thought I was using 64-bit Internet Explorer, but it's in the x86 folder instead :)
#928 [07:40] <Calinou> IE sucks
#929 [07:40] <DiskDaemon> Lesson learned about assumptions. It's better to go directly to the manual download page than to assume that java.com will give you the right type of file.
#930 [07:41] <Calinou> ^
#931 [07:42] <DiskDaemon> It was "common wisdom" that Internet Explorer on a 64-bit OS results in a 64-bit java download. But no - that's only if you're also using the 64-bit version of Internet Explorer too
#932 [07:44] <Calinou> moerthl, don't PM people randomly.
#933 [07:44] <Calinou> ask in the channel
#934 [07:45] <moerthl> good day i have a question regarding my minecraft premium acc Yesterday I redeemed a key and today I am not a premium more I ask them to help make my acc back on premium or could they tell me how it could buy again by sofortueberweisung not moneybookers ! thank you sry for my bad english
#935 [07:46] <TheNoodle> moerthl, where did you purchase minecraft?
#936 [07:47] <moerthl> here http://de.mmocode.com/
#937 [07:48] <Necrodoom> that thing is fake
#938 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> ?? scam
#939 [07:48] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#940 [07:48] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
#941 [07:48] <DiskDaemon> moerthl: You have been scammed, for which I'm sorry. You've lost your money to the scammer.
#942 [07:48] <Necrodoom> "Extremely reduced price for both retail order and bulk order"
#943 [07:49] <Necrodoom> 25 euros instead of 20 euros is reduced?
#944 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: People will believe anything
#945 [07:49] <Necrodoom> only 1 review exists
#946 [07:50] <moerthl> ok thank you but I can not make moneybookers account so I would ask if I could immediately transfer or buy paysafecard mincraft of minecraft.net so?
#947 [07:51] <Calinou> you can't buy minecraft with paysafecards IIRC
#948 [07:51] <Calinou> ^ source of a lot of scams
#949 [07:51] <DiskDaemon> moerthl: Also there's no transfer, because Mojang have no payment for the account.
#950 [07:54] <moerthl> ok
#951 [07:55] <moerthl> you can buy it with money transfer immediately without moneybookers?
#952 [07:55] <DiskDaemon> no
#953 [07:55] <DiskDaemon> If you're over 18 you can buy it with Paypal.
#954 [07:56] <moerthl> I have a moneybookers acc I was just frozen there
#955 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> Then you'll need to contact Moneybookers to find out why, and resolve the issue there.
#956 [07:57] <DiskDaemon> moerthl: Is there anything else that we can help you with?
#957 [07:57] <moerthl> no, nothing more thank you all
#958 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#959 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> After saying "you're welcome" so many times, it seems strange.
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#974 [09:16] <Dubesta11> hello
#975 [09:16] <Dubesta11> How do you open your inventory?
#976 [09:17] <Dubesta11> it keeps coming up asking me to do it
#977 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> With the E key.
#978 [09:17] <DiskDaemon> You'll find the key commands listed in Options -> Controls. You can adjust them there too
#979 [09:17] <LilLucy> E as in EGGS
#980 [09:18] <LilLucy> D as in DiskDaemon
#981 [09:18] <DiskDaemon> It used to be I, but that was too far away from the WASD keys to be useful. So the more common gaming convention of using E was then used instead.
#982 [09:18] <Dubesta11> its not working...
#983 [09:18] <LilLucy> :3
#984 [09:19] <LilLucy> E should work..
#985 [09:19] <omg_> try e
#986 [09:19] <LilLucy> If not. Try I
#987 [09:19] <Dubesta11> nothing happens
#988 [09:19] <omg_> without shift :)
#989 [09:19] <Dubesta11> ok
#990 [09:19] <LilLucy> Or check your controls in the options >
#991 [09:19] <DiskDaemon> Dubesta11: What happens after you go to Options and then Controls, and assign a key for it?
#992 [09:19] <Dubesta11> i assigen it to e
#993 [09:19] <Dubesta11> it no work
#994 [09:20] <LilLucy> Are you pressing anything else when you try press e?
#995 [09:20] <DiskDaemon> Dubesta11: Which mods are you running?
#996 [09:20] <Dubesta11> whats a mod?
#997 [09:20] <\r\n> DiskDaemon: he's trolling.
#998 [09:20] <DiskDaemon> something like TooManyItems, for example
#999 [09:20] <\r\n> [06:20] <Dubesta11> eik people on #minecrafthelp are easy to troll ._.
#1000 [09:20] <LilLucy> ._.
#1001 [09:20] <Dubesta11> Y u make things up?
#1002 [09:20] <\r\n> :/
#1003 [09:21] <LilLucy> ;kick >_>
#1004 [09:21] <WugBot> >_> is not in the channel.
#1005 [09:21] <DiskDaemon> Dubesta11: Because there is a known issue with TooManyItems in regard to opening the inventory.
#1006 [09:21] <Dubesta11> ok
#1007 [09:21] <Dubesta11> i am from planet minecraft may i have server op?
#1008 [09:21] <\r\n> ^ point made.
#1009 [09:22] <LilLucy> ;kick Dubesta11 troll
#1010 [09:22] * WugBot kicked Dubesta11 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ubesta11 :troll)
#1011 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> *sigh* - kick him good and hard
#1012 [09:22] <LilLucy> I hate it when people waste our time like that
#1013 [09:22] <LilLucy> Why must helpers be trolled =\
#1014 [09:22] <Andrio> Band of Wolves rule #3: You are not from Planet Minecraft.
#1015 [09:23] <Calinou> lol DiskDaemon
#1016 [09:23] <Calinou> YHBT :P
#1017 [09:23] <zack6849> LOL FAIL
#1018 [09:23] <zack6849> because obviously PMC inspects irc.
#1019 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> I like to keep on pushing, showing what a windows key is, for example, even beyond the point of stupidity
#1020 [09:23] <LilLucy> lol
#1021 [09:24] <LilLucy> I will never forget that day DiskDaemon
#1022 [09:24] <LilLucy> You really went all out to point out the windows key
#1023 [09:24] <zack6849> what happened?
#1024 [09:24] <Calinou> how to confuse users: call it "meta" or "super" or "compose"
#1025 [09:24] <Calinou> #thelinuxway
#1026 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> In other places I have to teach people what Ctrl-f is, and how to use it on a web page
#1027 [09:24] <LilLucy> lol
#1028 [09:24] <LilLucy> <3 ctrl +f
#1029 [09:25] <zack6849> ctrl f?
#1030 [09:25] <zack6849> im scared to press it for fear itll shut down my pc
#1031 [09:25] <LilLucy> It opens a litle window to find a string of text you enter
#1032 [09:25] * DiskDaemon throws safe at zack6849
#1032 [09:25] * Calinou invites DiskDaemon to some linux distro channels
#1032 [09:25] <zack6849> OH
#1033 [09:25] <zack6849> FIND
#1034 [09:25] <zack6849> i fail
#1035 [09:25] <LilLucy> :p
#1036 [09:25] <zack6849> i know what that is
#1037 [09:25] <LilLucy> It's ok
#1038 [09:25] <zack6849> i forgot
#1039 [09:25] * zack6849 is a derp
#1039 [09:25] <LilLucy> We dont blame you for not trusting
#1040 [09:25] <Calinou> "how can I tune the init script to that it uses runlevel 2 to connect to this server over ssh? I need to know how to compile kernel with specific init flags so that it runs on my sparc computer."
#1041 [09:25] <LilLucy> But yeah. The best solution to find something is to alt + F4 >_>
#1042 [09:26] <zack6849> Calinou, seems like an uber linux nerd
#1043 [09:26] <zack6849> SURE
#1044 [09:26] <Calinou> :} I'm saying BS actually
#1045 [09:26] * zack6849 presses alt F4
#1045 [09:26] <zack6849> hey look! it fixed it :D
#1046 [09:26] <Calinou> no, you're still here.
#1047 [09:26] <Calinou> :c
#1048 [09:26] <LilLucy> :3
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#1050 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> just don't try to find the irc backdoor to accessing flags. They don by issuing the command: /server flags
#1051 [09:26] <zack6849> ohai
#1052 [09:26] <Dubesta11> im sorry guys :P
#1053 [09:27] <Dubesta11> i was just board
#1054 [09:27] <LilLucy> Dubesta11. Are you really sorry ;-;
#1055 [09:27] <DiskDaemon> They don't like that, I was saying :)
#1056 [09:27] <zack6849> *bored
#1057 [09:27] <Dubesta11> ya
#1058 [09:27] <LilLucy> Because like. We are slaves to helping in here ;-;
#1059 [09:27] <Dubesta11> :P
#1060 [09:27] * zack6849 helps when hes actually here
#1060 [09:27] <DiskDaemon> Helping is a pavlovian effect
#1061 [09:27] <Dubesta11> im a really nice person tho :D
#1062 [09:27] <zack6849> or diskdeamon just butts in when im helping >_>
#1063 [09:27] <LilLucy> lol
#1064 [09:27] <LilLucy> zack6849 DiskDaemon does that often <3
#1065 [09:27] <LilLucy> But I find it very helpful
#1066 [09:28] <Dubesta11> so is this all you guys do?
#1067 [09:28] <LilLucy> Since sometimes I dont know the full answer to something
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#1069 [09:28] <LilLucy> Dubesta11 no..
#1070 [09:28] <zack6849> lol, whio cares hes still awesome.
#1071 [09:28] <DiskDaemon> don't worry, I told someone to shut the F up yesterday, as I was getting up because they were making things worse :)
#1072 [09:28] <LilLucy> We're volunteer helpers..
#1073 [09:28] <Dubesta11> ah
#1074 [09:28] <zack6849> no. we have lives
#1075 [09:28] <LilLucy> We do have lives etc :p
#1076 [09:28] <Dubesta11> no i ment..
#1077 [09:28] <zack6849> i just come here to help to be nice
#1078 [09:28] <Dubesta11> >.>
#1079 [09:28] <zack6849> :3
#1080 [09:28] <LilLucy> But yes we do offer our time here
#1081 [09:28] <Dubesta11> :P
#1082 [09:28] <LilLucy> In hopes that one day Mojang will reward us with hugs
#1083 [09:28] <Dubesta11> i has a question
#1084 [09:29] <Dubesta11> when will 1.3 come out?
#1085 [09:29] <zack6849> august first
#1086 [09:29] <LilLucy> No idea
#1087 [09:29] <LilLucy> Jeb says he wants to try get it out August 1st
#1088 [09:29] <LilLucy> But I wouldn't call it a definite promise :p
#1089 [09:29] <Dubesta11> ok
#1090 [09:31] <zack6849> dube trolling doesnt make you a bad person, i joned the equivalent exchange ir multiple times admiting my undying love for cereal
#1091 [09:31] <zack6849> *irc
#1092 [09:31] <Dubesta11> what?
#1093 [09:31] <Dubesta11> ._.
#1094 [09:31] <zack6849> nothin.
#1095 [09:31] <LilLucy> Undying love for cereal?
#1096 [09:31] <Calinou> EE sucks :P
#1097 [09:31] <zack6849> mhm
#1098 [09:32] <zack6849> a fosters home for imaginary friends refrence
#1099 [09:32] <LilLucy> I do love trolling. But.. Harmless trolling
#1100 [09:32] <zack6849> "I LIKE CEREAL"
#1101 [09:32] <LilLucy> Like with Eddie's bike >_>
#1102 [09:32] <Dubesta11> i like trains
#1103 [09:32] <zack6849> i only troll people that say somehthing overwhelmingly stupi on my server
#1104 [09:32] <zack6849> like
#1105 [09:32] <zack6849> HURRR IM GONNA HAX UR ACCOUNTS
#1106 [09:33] <Dubesta11> is there advertising here?
#1107 [09:33] <Necrodoom> survival server: "OMG, no /god, f this server"
#1108 [09:33] <LilLucy> Dubesta11 nope. You can advertise your server in #smp though
#1109 [09:33] <Dubesta11> like can we tell cool servers?
#1110 [09:33] <zack6849> pgfff
#1111 [09:33] <Dubesta11> ok
#1112 [09:33] <zack6849> i made a plugin to kill advertising
#1113 [09:33] <zack6849> then i was consiodering posting
#1114 [09:33] <zack6849> and saw somone else made the exact same thing
#1115 [09:33] <zack6849> :c
#1116 [09:33] <LilLucy> lol
#1117 [09:34] <Dubesta11> lol
#1118 [09:34] <zack6849> ./cc sends a shitload of empty lines then says "chat cleared by" +senders name
#1119 [09:35] <LilLucy> lol
#1120 [09:35] <Andrio> That would screw PAGE UP over though, wouldn't it?
#1121 [09:35] <zack6849> yup
#1122 [09:35] <zack6849> they cant scroll up to see the chat history
#1123 [09:35] <zack6849> erases the whole chat
#1124 [09:36] <zack6849> chat history is 120 lines
#1125 [09:36] <zack6849> 119 blank lines
#1126 [09:36] <zack6849> + the sender name thing
#1127 [09:36] * Andrio wonders why he still types key names in uppercase.
#1127 [09:36] <Andrio> I like the way Defense of the Ancients did it.
#1128 [09:36] * zack6849 is too lazy to hit shift unless in coding where its required
#1128 [09:36] <Andrio> You type -clear and the messages go off the screen.
#1129 [09:37] <Andrio> But the logs are still there (if you're in single player).
#1130 [09:37] <zack6849> oh
#1131 [09:37] <zack6849> well the server keeeps logs pobviopusly
#1132 [09:37] <zack6849> AGH
#1133 [09:37] <zack6849> i hate typos
#1134 [09:37] <Andrio> Because Warcraft has a special trigger action to clear the message.
#1135 [09:38] <Andrio> AFAIK, Minecraft doesn't have that, though.
#1136 [09:38] <zack6849> AFAIK?
#1137 [09:38] <Andrio> As far as I know.
#1138 [09:38] <zack6849> oh
#1139 [09:39] <zack6849> yeah it doesnt
#1140 [09:39] <Andrio> It would be nice if it did.
#1141 [09:40] <zack6849> yeah
#1142 [09:40] <zack6849> yeah
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#1144 [09:40] <zack6849> all my plugins are chatbased due to the fact my programmiin knowledge is very basic
#1145 [09:41] <zack6849> i hate when you;re wating on a package and you keep hearing trucks and get excited and its not for you :(
#1146 [10:01] <clarjon1> bleep bloop
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#1149 [10:10] <zack6849> beeo boop
#1150 [10:10] <zack6849> *beep
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#1152 [10:20] <godwarskills> is it possiable to make a minecraft browser client? for my minecraft support website
#1153 [10:21] <DiskDaemon> godwarskills: no.
#1154 [10:22] <godwarskills> kk
#1155 [10:22] <godwarskills> thank you
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#1170 [11:31] <Moonish> i need help
#1171 [11:31] <Moonish> can some1 help me?
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#1175 [11:32] <Andrio> What do you need help with?
#1176 [11:32] <Andrio> ...
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#1179 [11:42] <angry> does anyone know when minecraft3.0 is coming out
#1180 [11:43] <angry> hello
#1181 [11:44] <GreyVulpine> Aug 1st, hopefully
#1182 [11:44] <Calinou> 1.3 not 3.0
#1183 [11:45] <angry> opps sorry
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#1190 [12:37] <mike_> why wont my game finish updateing
#1191 [12:38] <GreyVulpine> Where does it get stuck?
#1192 [12:39] <mike_> before 10 percent
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#1194 [12:39] <LilLucy> Is it stuck on the lgwl file?
#1195 [12:40] <mike_> yes
#1196 [12:40] <LilLucy> mike_ chances are when that happens
#1197 [12:40] <LilLucy> It's caused by some security program on your computer
#1198 [12:40] <LilLucy> So if you have any firewalls/anti viruses etc
#1199 [12:40] <LilLucy> Please disable them first
#1200 [12:40] <LilLucy> Then run the launcher again and let it update
#1201 [12:41] <mike_> ok
#1202 [12:41] <LilLucy> After it's updated, you can renable your security software
#1203 [12:41] <mike_> alright
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#1205 [12:42] <[cZ]Abziz> can i speak here?
#1206 [12:42] <LilLucy> Yes you can
#1207 [12:42] <[cZ]Abziz> ok... :D
#1208 [12:42] <LilLucy> Im guessing you're asking about being banned in #minecraft ?
#1209 [12:42] <[cZ]Abziz> nope
#1210 [12:43] <LilLucy> Lol ok
#1211 [12:43] <[cZ]Abziz> i have a problem with the game
#1212 [12:43] <LilLucy> Sure whats your issue
#1213 [12:43] <[cZ]Abziz> everytime i log in a server it would load the 10x10 first chunks but then it wont load further
#1214 [12:43] <[cZ]Abziz> and will kick me after 10 seconds telling me some weird connection error
#1215 [12:43] <LilLucy> Does it only happen on the one server?
#1216 [12:44] <[cZ]Abziz> well yea... like 8 out of 8 servers
#1217 [12:44] <[cZ]Abziz> same problem
#1218 [12:44] <[cZ]Abziz> and i see that the servers got people in them
#1219 [12:45] <LilLucy> Hmm. Im not too great at helping with multiplayer. But are you using any mods/things like avg for anti viruses etc?
#1220 [12:45] <[cZ]Abziz> and most servers were fine like 3 days ago
#1221 [12:45] <[cZ]Abziz> no mods at all
#1222 [12:45] <LilLucy> Ahh ok so it hasn't always happened/
#1223 [12:45] <LilLucy> ? *
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#1225 [12:45] <[cZ]Abziz> nope
#1226 [12:45] <LilLucy> Hmm. Im not too sure then
#1227 [12:45] <[cZ]Abziz> could it be a port problem or something ?
#1228 [12:45] <LilLucy> Perhaps GreyVulpine might know though *pokes him*
#1229 [12:45] <LilLucy> Im not too sure. I doubt it though
#1230 [12:46] <LilLucy> If it was a port problem, you probably wouldn't be able to connect in the first place
#1231 [12:46] <HolyHozzer> My mincecraft wont let me go in to any of my servers there all done but one and the one only has 6 people when it usally has 300+
#1232 [12:46] <HolyHozzer> down*
#1233 [12:47] <superkabii> shame.
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#1240 [13:02] <geraldbrent> Hey Marc_IRL!
#1241 [13:02] <Marc_IRL> herro
#1242 [13:02] <GreyVulpine> 'lo Marc
#1243 [13:02] <LilLucy> GreyVulpine
#1244 [13:02] <LilLucy> Just keep an eye out
#1245 [13:02] <LilLucy> You might need to +r the channel
#1246 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, I see #bukkit
#1247 [13:03] <LilLucy> Join spam happening in #minecraft
#1248 [13:03] <LilLucy> is it +R or +r
#1249 [13:03] <TheNoodle> lol
#1250 [13:03] <LilLucy> Cant remember
#1251 [13:03] <GreyVulpine> Going to lock it down until it's gone
#1252 [13:03] <LilLucy> lol
#1253 [13:03] <TheNoodle> LilLucy, +r
#1254 [13:03] <LilLucy> K :3
#1255 [13:03] <LilLucy> Then I've done my job on#mc
#1256 [13:03] <TheNoodle> \o/
#1257 [13:04] <LilLucy> !mode +r
#1258 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Looks like it's just going after #bukkit* channels
#1259 [13:04] <LilLucy> Gah I forgot the command ;-;
#1260 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> I'll keep an eye on it here
#1261 [13:04] <LilLucy> .mode or something I think
#1262 [13:04] <LilLucy> Yeah keep an eye
#1263 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> .mode +r
#1264 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> .mode set +r
#1265 [13:04] <LilLucy> .mode +r
#1266 [13:04] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#1266 [13:04] <[cZ]Abziz> Greyvulpine, I was told you might be able to help me.
#1267 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> With?
#1268 [13:05] <[cZ]Abziz> When I connect to a server It will load several chunks arround me but then it won't load anymore
#1269 [13:05] <[cZ]Abziz> I will be able to dig around but not getting any drops from what I mine, and after 20 seconds or so it will kick me out of the server.
#1270 [13:05] <LilLucy> .set mode +r
#1271 [13:05] <LilLucy> There you go
#1272 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> Usually indicative of a poor network connection, either on your side, or the server's.
#1273 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> It can also be the result of a security software, zonealarm's notorious for this
#1274 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> Does it do this on all servers?
#1275 [13:06] <[cZ]Abziz> yes
#1276 [13:06] <GreyVulpine> What security software do you run?
#1277 [13:06] <[cZ]Abziz> and it didnt happen 3 days ago
#1278 [13:06] <[cZ]Abziz> I have ESET Nod 5
#1279 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Just the antivirus?
#1280 [13:07] <GreyVulpine> Or the security suite?
#1281 [13:07] <[cZ]Abziz> security suite
#1282 [13:07] <[cZ]Abziz> I tried disabling web security but still the same
#1283 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, alright. Are you having any problems with a slow internet connection? Perhaps a particularly packet-loss heavy one? Could you try a speedtest.net test?
#1284 [13:09] <GreyVulpine> What servers have you tried?
#1285 [13:11] <[cZ]Abziz> mostly israeli servers, but i went MC-mp and picked some random ones and same thing happened
#1286 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried pinging the server, seeing if you get any packet loss?
#1287 [13:12] <[cZ]Abziz> yes i tried
#1288 [13:12] <[cZ]Abziz> i get the pong very late
#1289 [13:12] <[cZ]Abziz> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2057923180.png
#1290 [13:12] <[cZ]Abziz> its the usual result
#1291 [13:12] <[cZ]Abziz> (yes i have 2.5 mbit connection)
#1292 [13:12] <GreyVulpine> Looks fine to me.
#1293 [13:13] <GreyVulpine> What sort of ping times are you getting to the server that you connect to?
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#1295 [13:14] <Calinou> <[cZ]Abziz> (yes i have 2.5 mbit connection)
#1296 [13:14] <Calinou> welcome to my club
#1297 [13:14] <Calinou> (nice ping however)
#1298 [13:15] <[cZ]Abziz> well i dont know the exact time but when i write /ping on the server i get the "pong!" like 5~10 seconds late
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#1300 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> [cZ]Abziz - What operating system are you on?
#1301 [13:16] <[cZ]Abziz> win xp pro 32 bit
#1302 [13:16] <[cZ]Abziz> SP3
#1303 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> [cZ]Abziz - Head to your start menu, in the run command, type in: cmd and press enter
#1304 [13:16] <[cZ]Abziz> im there
#1305 [13:16] <GreyVulpine> At the black command prompt, type in: ping yourserver'saddress
#1306 [13:17] <GreyVulpine> It should return back some lines. I'm specifically looking for any dropped packets, or ping times that are unusually high
#1307 [13:18] <Calinou> GreyVulpine, yeah, but, this doesn't work with all servers, because ping defaults to port 80 no?
#1308 [13:18] <Calinou> also you need to use some argument to resolve hostnames, no?
#1309 [13:18] <[cZ]Abziz> i get normal ping
#1310 [13:18] <[cZ]Abziz> 66ms for germany server
#1311 [13:18] <[cZ]Abziz> and no loss
#1312 [13:19] <[cZ]Abziz> and this is a server i have that problem in
#1313 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> It'll tell me if the route between [cZ]Abziz is at all compromised, which it doesn't look to be.
#1314 [13:20] <GreyVulpine> [cZ]Abziz - Are you perhaps running any mods, any HD texture packs?
#1315 [13:21] <[cZ]Abziz> not at all i have the game at its pure state
#1316 [13:21] <GreyVulpine> Strange.
#1317 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Do you happen to have another computer to test this on?
#1318 [13:23] <[cZ]Abziz> nope :/
#1319 [13:23] <[cZ]Abziz> but imma try something
#1320 [13:23] <Calinou> [cZ]Abziz, are you using wireless to connect to the internet? use ethernet instead
#1321 [13:23] <[cZ]Abziz> i mma log with a VPN
#1322 [13:23] <Calinou> some wireless adapters have been known to cause problems with MC
#1323 [13:23] <[cZ]Abziz> to see if its my ISP
#1324 [13:23] <Calinou> ...this has nothing to do with a VPN
#1325 [13:23] <[cZ]Abziz> yea but i had some weird similar problem in another mmo game
#1326 [13:24] <[cZ]Abziz> that would let me log in the game but when i load it would lag-freeze
#1327 [13:24] <[cZ]Abziz> and usually VPN fixed it
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#1330 [13:33] <[cZ]Abziz> oops got kicked cause of the vpn
#1331 [13:33] <[cZ]Abziz> but yea
#1332 [13:33] <[cZ]Abziz> that fixed it
#1333 [13:34] <LilLucy> .set mode -r
#1334 [13:35] <[cZ]Abziz> thanks for helping all
#1335 [13:35] <Calinou> np
#1336 [13:35] <[cZ]Abziz> i guess its my Internet provider
#1337 [13:36] <[cZ]Abziz> good evening.
#1338 [13:36] <[cZ]Abziz> Im Using cZero Script By WwW.cZero.Co.iL/script
#1339 [13:36] <[cZ]Abziz> Im Using cZero Script By WwW.cZero.Co.iL/script
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#1341 [13:37] <Calinou> lol
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#1352 [14:16] <Thor> Can there be triple NPC villages?
#1353 [14:16] <George> My son keeps saying that we don't have the latest version so that he can make gear boxes and evevators etc. We seem to be on version 1.2.5
#1354 [14:17] <George> elevators
#1355 [14:17] <Thor> Also has 1.3 come out?
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#1357 [14:18] <xales> George: 1.2.5 is the latest version
#1358 [14:18] <George> this is George errm its the items that u cant make and it has more options on creative
#1359 [14:19] <George> ??
#1360 [14:19] <Thor> Has 1.3 come out?
#1361 [14:19] <George> ye do i need to download em all
#1362 [14:20] <George> oldest to newest
#1363 [14:21] <George> yes 1.3 has
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#1365 [14:21] <Thor> George: My minecraft does not seem to have it???
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#1367 [14:22] <George> every prop?
#1368 [14:22] <George> (item
#1369 [14:22] <Thor> yes
#1370 [14:22] <George> on the right hand side
#1371 [14:22] <George> ???
#1372 [14:23] <George> of ur screen
#1373 [14:23] <George> ???
#1374 [14:24] <Thor> My computer stays at 1.2.5
#1375 [14:24] <George> is all the probs on the verry right
#1376 [14:24] <George> ------------>
#1377 [14:25] <Thor> No they are not on the veeeeeeeeeeeeeery right side
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#1379 [14:26] <Thor> Bye
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#1381 [14:29] <lutzee> George, 1.3 has not come out, and there are no gearboxes/elevators planned to be added, chances are your son has seen a modification for the game to add said items
#1382 [14:29] <lutzee> By the looks of it that mod is called better than wolves.
#1383 [14:32] <George> is gearbox and extra props mobs?
#1384 [14:33] <George> oh i am his sunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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#1386 [14:34] <tpummell> i just downloaded minecraft for my laptop and it is moveing extremly slow, lagging, and it is just horrible .... how can i call the company or a refund?
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#1388 [14:35] <LilLucy> tpummell Im not sure mojang does refunds. Let me check
#1389 [14:35] <LilLucy> ok nevermind
#1390 [14:35] <George> how do u get the better than wolves mod?
#1391 [14:35] <George> mob
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#1393 [14:36] <George> mod
#1394 [14:36] <LilLucy> Minecraft Forums George
#1395 [14:36] <George> pls dont leave 1 sec
#1396 [14:37] <LilLucy> I cant leave. Im chained here as a slave
#1397 [14:37] <xales> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/253365-125-better-than-wolves-mod-the-mob-farm-strikes-back-v380-upd-jun-5/
#1398 [14:37] <LilLucy> Nice one xales
#1399 [14:38] <lutzee> George, just as a heads up, this channel does not support any problems occuring when installing mods, so if you have problems we can't help, unless you want help getting back to the default game files.
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#1404 [14:57] <CreeperSnooper> I cant get into minecraft because it says that i cant connect to Minecraft.net
#1405 [14:57] <Calinou> CreeperSnooper, are you using AVG or avira antivirus? if so disable the "link scanner" module.
#1406 [14:58] <Calinou> see this too: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#1407 [14:58] <Calinou> (read the instructions /carefully/.)
#1408 [14:58] <CreeperSnooper> no and ok
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#1412 [15:00] <CreeperSnooper> wait what do I do know
#1413 [15:00] <CreeperSnooper> how do i know if it worked?
#1414 [15:01] <Calinou> try it?
#1415 [15:01] <Calinou> 2 minutes seems pretty quick, to read /carefully/ something
#1416 [15:01] <Calinou> see the "Solution"
#1417 [15:02] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1418 [15:02] <CreeperSnooper> ya I was looking at only the solution cuz thats what u sent me
#1419 [15:03] <CreeperSnooper> and this weird black thing from java poped u w/ white words so I tried to re log in and it did not work
#1420 [15:04] <CreeperSnooper> calinu?
#1421 [15:05] <CreeperSnooper> um...
#1422 [15:05] <Calinou> yes?
#1423 [15:05] <CreeperSnooper> so what do I do?
#1424 [15:05] <Calinou> CreeperSnooper, if you migrated your account: use your e-mail address to log in
#1425 [15:05] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1426 [15:05] <Calinou> account migration also has been known to cause problems: see http://help.mojang.com
#1427 [15:06] <Calinou> we unfortunately cannot help with account issues (especially post-migration). you will have to contact mojang if you still can't log in
#1428 [15:06] <CreeperSnooper> I still cant
#1429 [15:06] <CreeperSnooper> but what is that black thing with all the white words?
#1430 [15:07] <Calinou> that's the command line
#1431 [15:07] <CreeperSnooper> what does that do?
#1432 [15:07] <Calinou> do you see any error (see the last lines of the command line?) when you try to log in
#1433 [15:07] <Calinou> it gives useful information
#1434 [15:07] <CreeperSnooper> oh
#1435 [15:08] <CreeperSnooper> it says this:If the shortcut cannot find the location of java, try the following location: and says some stuff for me to copy. where do I put that in?
#1436 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/295167_440706485970179_651134797_n.jpg
#1437 [15:09] <Grim_Reaper> woops wrong channel
#1438 [15:10] <Calinou> CreeperSnooper, that's the wiki page, not the command line
#1439 [15:10] <Calinou> does the command line have a lot of lines? with errors?
#1440 [15:10] <CreeperSnooper> wait what?
#1441 [15:11] <CreeperSnooper> but it says solution and everything
#1442 [15:13] <CreeperSnooper> ya its got tons of lines w/ errors
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#1444 [15:14] <Calinou> what error? can you tell me, or paste the output in http://pastebin.com then give me the link?
#1445 [15:14] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1446 [15:15] <CreeperSnooper> I cant paste all of this
#1447 [15:15] <CreeperSnooper> plus it wont let me highlight it
#1448 [15:16] <Calinou> in command line: right click the window, click "modify", "select all"
#1449 [15:16] <Calinou> then right click it again, click "modify", and "copy"
#1450 [15:17] <CreeperSnooper> I cant even right click on it
#1451 [15:18] <CreeperSnooper> it just closed on me
#1452 [15:18] <CreeperSnooper> ok I re opened it
#1453 [15:19] <CreeperSnooper> the system cannot find the file specified
#1454 [15:19] <Calinou> ah... this
#1455 [15:19] <CreeperSnooper> ya and more
#1456 [15:19] <CreeperSnooper> !!!
#1457 [15:19] <Calinou> CreeperSnooper, if you're using any firewall, allow minecraft in the list of programs, too
#1458 [15:19] <Calinou> "If the shortcut cannot find the location of java, try the following location:" < do this
#1459 [15:19] <Calinou> replace the "target" field in the shortcut with the second line
#1460 [15:21] <CreeperSnooper> it says its not valid
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#1462 [15:21] <Calinou> CreeperSnooper, you could also try downgrading to the previous java version, if that doesn't work
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#1464 [15:22] <Calinou> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#1465 [15:22] <Calinou> download Windows x64 there, if you're on a 64 bit windows
#1466 [15:22] <Calinou> > uninstall any other versions of java first, it's better to do so
#1467 [15:22] <CreeperSnooper> ya I think I am
#1468 [15:22] <anubisishear> hello?
#1469 [15:22] <Calinou> (to check if you're on 64 bit: press Windows+E, right click an empty space in that "folder", click "properties" and see)
#1470 [15:22] <Calinou> yes, anubisishear? don't ask to ask
#1471 [15:23] <CreeperSnooper> yup I am
#1472 [15:23] <anubisishear> ok just looking for some help with a NullPointerException
#1473 [15:24] <CreeperSnooper> how do u uninstall Java?
#1474 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> CreeperSnooper - Go to programs and features in your windows control panel
#1475 [15:25] <GreyVulpine> anubisishear - can you copy the entire error to pastebin.com and give us the URL to it?
#1476 [15:25] <anubisishear> Control Panel\Programs\Programs and Features
#1477 [15:26] <anubisishear> ok i can do that
#1478 [15:27] <anubisishear> umm GreyVulpine i have it posted on the forums already
#1479 [15:27] <anubisishear> i could just give that link if u want?
#1480 [15:27] <CreeperSnooper> will this affect my computer b cuz if it does, my dad will freak
#1481 [15:29] <CreeperSnooper> hello/
#1482 [15:29] <CreeperSnooper> ?
#1483 [15:29] <CreeperSnooper> will this affect my computer b cuz if it does, my dad will freak
#1484 [15:30] <anubisishear> http://pastebin.com/3WtUCEHh
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#1486 [15:34] <anubisishear> am i still connected?
#1487 [15:34] <CreeperSnooper> HELLO
#1488 [15:35] <CreeperSnooper> I hav been waiting a while now
#1489 [15:35] <CreeperSnooper> hurry up plz
#1490 [15:36] <CreeperSnooper> can someone answer my question?
#1491 [15:36] <Iaccidentally> patience. this is volunteer support
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#1493 [15:37] <CreeperSnooper> will deleting my java stuff and adding windows 64 java in stead affect my computer b cuz if it does, my dad will freak
#1494 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> It wont
#1495 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> Though if you have 64bit
#1496 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> install both 32bit and 64bit
#1497 [15:37] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1498 [15:37] <CreeperSnooper> thank u
#1499 [15:37] <Grim_Reaper> No problem
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#1501 [15:39] <CreeperSnooper> so would want 64 bit and 32 bit for it to work?
#1502 [15:40] <CreeperSnooper> woops I mean so I would want
#1503 [15:40] <emily> how do i delete my account
#1504 [15:40] <Grim_Reaper> It's not a promise it'll work. But it's recommened to install both 64bit and 32bit if you're running 64bit OS
#1505 [15:40] <Grim_Reaper> Emily you cannot delete your account
#1506 [15:40] <Grim_Reaper> I myself run 64bit and have both installed
#1507 [15:41] <CreeperSnooper> ok
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#1509 [15:43] <samster00200> when i try to update minecraft the update stop between 1 and 10
#1510 [15:43] <Elystus> samster00200: This is most likely caused by your anti-virus
#1511 [15:43] <Elystus> If you have AVG, pelase disable the link scanning module
#1512 [15:44] <samster00200> ok thanks i will try it
#1513 [15:44] <Elystus> Any other, just disable the anti-virus all together.
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#1515 [15:46] <CreeperSnooper> wait GreyVulpine I am bak
#1516 [15:46] <Marc_IRL> I don't know why this took me so long, but I figured out how people are migrating other peoples' accounts
#1517 [15:46] <Elystus> how?
#1518 [15:46] <CreeperSnooper> are you still on?
#1519 [15:47] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL o_O?
#1520 [15:47] <Grim_Reaper> What
#1521 [15:47] <Grim_Reaper> [21:46] <@Grim_Reaper> Is there ANYBODY here who WORKS for EA/Supports them as a company etc. If so, please say so now so I can ban you
#1522 [15:47] <CreeperSnooper> hello? GreyVulpine?
#1523 [15:48] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: What is your issue?
#1524 [15:48] <Elystus> He might be afk right now.
#1525 [15:48] <anubisishear> why do u want to ban someone from EA???
#1526 [15:48] <Marc_IRL> Yep, just tested it on a dummy account
#1527 [15:48] <CreeperSnooper> oh well its such a long story
#1528 [15:49] <Marc_IRL> I mean, you'd have to have their username and their poorly chosen password... But if you have an empty Mojang account, you can migrate a Minecraft account into it with only the username and password.
#1529 [15:49] <Elystus> anubisishear: Ea is kinda a scummy company.
#1530 [15:49] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL wow..
#1531 [15:49] <Elystus> They like money more than they like to please their customers.
#1532 [15:49] <Marc_IRL> This might be because a lot of Minecraft accounts have dummy, typo, or old email accounts, and it's easier to fix a few people who got migrated, than to block everyone else from being able to do it.
#1533 [15:49] <CreeperSnooper> well I was deleating my javas and replacing it with 32 bit and 64 bit b cuz they told me to do that after I did all sorts of other stuff so I can log into minecraft
#1534 [15:50] <Marc_IRL> Normally, if your Minecraft account is compromised, you just reset your password. But if they're smart, they'll take it over by migrating it, so you can't reset it.
#1535 [15:50] <CreeperSnooper> Calinou nows my story too
#1536 [15:50] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: Yea, but people don't want to migrate it because they believe it will cause problems.
#1537 [15:50] * Elystus glares at the account support section of the forums
#1537 [15:51] <Marc_IRL> As a whole, I'm not sure that's true
#1538 [15:51] <Marc_IRL> I think you get the very vocal people
#1539 [15:51] <Marc_IRL> Account migration has been fixed, though, and I'm not aware of any current bugs with it
#1540 [15:51] <CreeperSnooper> so ya that is basically my story and I hav been trying for 2 hours straight
#1541 [15:52] <anubisishear> umm was i forgotten?
#1542 [15:52] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: How did they conclude that java was the issue?
#1543 [15:52] <Elystus> any error reports?
#1544 [15:53] <Elystus> anubisishear: What do you mean?
#1545 [15:53] <CreeperSnooper> umm calinou sent me http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel and I followed and I ended up with errors yes
#1546 [15:53] <Elystus> So, I am guessing you were having the html code on a grey screen issue?
#1547 [15:54] <CreeperSnooper> umm I hav no idea what ur talking about sorry
#1548 [15:54] <CreeperSnooper> and r u talking to me?
#1549 [15:54] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: Yea, sorry. I forgot to add your name at the start :P
#1550 [15:54] <CreeperSnooper> wait do u mean the white letter behind black?
#1551 [15:54] <CreeperSnooper> letters
#1552 [15:55] <CreeperSnooper> it said stuff like cant open the file and stuff
#1553 [15:55] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: Where does it say this, and what exactly does it say?
#1554 [15:55] <CreeperSnooper> let me open it up again
#1555 [15:56] <CreeperSnooper> this system cannot find thw file specialized
#1556 [15:57] <CreeperSnooper> the minecraft launcher also pops up with this
#1557 [15:57] <Elystus> It sounds like you have already attempted the fix on the link that Calinou gave you.
#1558 [15:57] <CreeperSnooper> ya
#1559 [15:58] <CreeperSnooper> but then they told me to get java 64 bit and 32 bit
#1560 [15:58] <Elystus> that is correct.
#1561 [15:58] <CreeperSnooper> so I should keep downloading and deleating my other javas right?
#1562 [15:59] <Elystus> okay, I am guessing they checked this, but lets make sure.
#1563 [15:59] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1564 [15:59] <anubisishear> pastebin.com/3WtUCEHh
#1565 [15:59] <Elystus> First off all, what operating sytem do you have, and is it 32 or 64 bit?
#1566 [15:59] <CreeperSnooper> I hav 64
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#1568 [16:00] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: what browser do you use?
#1569 [16:00] <Elystus> anubisishear: That sounds like you have conflicting mods.
#1570 [16:00] <CreeperSnooper> internet explorer
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#1572 [16:00] <Elystus> anubisishear: Go to options and hit force update.
#1573 [16:01] <anubisishear> i shouldnt i used id reslover
#1574 [16:01] <Elystus> It still can clash.
#1575 [16:01] <anubisishear> sigh i know what one i installed last let me remove it then
#1576 [16:01] <Elystus> item ids are not the only things that can cause issues between mods.
#1577 [16:02] <CreeperSnooper> so I should keep deleating and placing?
#1578 [16:02] <anubisishear> ive been doing mod packs for over a year now and ive never seen this once
#1579 [16:02] <CreeperSnooper> cuz i hav 64 bit and one other thing to delete (un install)
#1580 [16:03] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: Lets start with a clean slate. Uninstall every version of java on your computer.
#1581 [16:03] <CreeperSnooper> ok]
#1582 [16:03] <CreeperSnooper> is it bad to do that?
#1583 [16:04] <CreeperSnooper> cuz my dad will freak
#1584 [16:04] <Elystus> No. It just means for the time that they are uninstalled you will be unable to use applications that use java.
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#1586 [16:04] <CreeperSnooper> ok good
#1587 [16:04] <Marc_IRL> FYI, account migration issues article updated http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#1588 [16:04] <FookMe> erm
#1589 [16:04] <FookMe> can someone help me
#1590 [16:04] <Elystus> Marc: Thanks :)
#1591 [16:05] <Elystus> FookMe: State your issue please.
#1592 [16:05] <FookMe> It involves mods
#1593 [16:05] <FookMe> can u still help me?
#1594 [16:05] <Elystus> FookMe: A little more detail would help ;)
#1595 [16:06] <CreeperSnooper> pk i am done deleting now
#1596 [16:06] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1597 [16:07] <FookMe> Elystus, When ever i install the mod loader to my minecraft.jar i get a crash error.
#1598 [16:08] <CreeperSnooper> wat do I do now?
#1599 [16:08] <Elystus> FookMe: Can you paste bin said crash error.
#1600 [16:09] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: http://java.com/en/download/chrome.jsp?locale=en
#1601 [16:09] <FookMe> yes one sec
#1602 [16:09] <Elystus> ^download the new java from there, then tell me the full name of the file download.
#1603 [16:09] <Elystus> downloaded*
#1604 [16:09] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1605 [16:09] <FookMe> well i just restored it to normal with the force update thing but ill brb
#1606 [16:11] <Marc_IRL> Aha! When you don't have a Mojang account, you try to migrate a Minecraft account, and choose a new email address for it, it makes you verify with the email on file for the Minecraft account. I don't know why I didn't catch that, and why no one reported it.
#1607 [16:11] <CreeperSnooper> it was like the chromeinstall-7u5.exe
#1608 [16:12] <Marc_IRL> Pretty sure that's an actual security loophole, and will be plugged soon.
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#1610 [16:12] <Marc_IRL> Elystus: I blame you!
#1611 [16:12] <Elystus> You caught my evil plan :O
#1612 [16:12] <Marc_IRL> heh heh
#1613 [16:13] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: Now install this one: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=64153
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#1615 [16:13] <Elystus> And you should have both 32 and 64 bit. That is if I am remembeing the java file names correctly.
#1616 [16:13] <CreeperSnooper> wait wat do I click to install it
#1617 [16:13] <CreeperSnooper> save and run?
#1618 [16:13] <CreeperSnooper> run?
#1619 [16:13] <CreeperSnooper> save as?
#1620 [16:13] <FookMe> elystus
#1621 [16:13] <Elystus> Always save a file, and then run it
#1622 [16:13] <CreeperSnooper> or save?
#1623 [16:13] <Elystus> FookMe: yes?
#1624 [16:14] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1625 [16:14] <FookMe> one sec
#1626 [16:14] <FookMe> do u want the error/crash code?
#1627 [16:14] <Elystus> ??> FookMe pastebin
#1628 [16:14] <VoxelHead> FookMe: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1629 [16:14] <FookMe> pastebin?
#1630 [16:15] <FookMe> ah
#1631 [16:15] <FookMe> ok one sec
#1632 [16:15] <CreeperSnooper> wait so save and run?
#1633 [16:15] <CreeperSnooper> or save as then run?
#1634 [16:15] <FookMe> elystus it wont stay on
#1635 [16:15] <FookMe> it says a error then F closes minecraft
#1636 [16:15] <CreeperSnooper> Im sorry I am bad at this kind of stuff
#1637 [16:16] <FookMe> DARN
#1638 [16:16] <CreeperSnooper> so how do I install this?
#1639 [16:16] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: Save the file. it will be downloaded into the downloads folder. After it is done downloading, then double click it to start the install.
#1640 [16:17] <FookMe> elystus
#1641 [16:17] <FookMe> i cant copy the error/crash code. When i run minecraft the crash code appears but i cant get enough time to copy it. It force closes after 3 secs
#1642 [16:17] <CreeperSnooper> where is the downloads folder
#1643 [16:17] <FookMe> Creeper
#1644 [16:18] <FookMe> go to your start menu
#1645 [16:18] <FookMe> at the bottem
#1646 [16:18] <FookMe> and type in "Downloads" click the "Downloads" folder
#1647 [16:18] <Elystus> ^
#1648 [16:18] <Elystus> Fookme: We can get that error report to save to a log.txt file.
#1649 [16:19] <CreeperSnooper> the download file is corrup
#1650 [16:19] <CreeperSnooper> corrupted
#1651 [16:19] <Elystus> FookMe: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash
#1652 [16:19] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: THe download probably is not done yet.
#1653 [16:19] <CreeperSnooper> OMG I am scared now
#1654 [16:19] <CreeperSnooper> oh
#1655 [16:19] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1656 [16:19] <CreeperSnooper> but it was
#1657 [16:20] <CreeperSnooper> it was in the downloads folder
#1658 [16:20] <Elystus> It is there while it is downloading. Its file type will be partial or something.
#1659 [16:20] <CreeperSnooper> so I click save to download
#1660 [16:20] <CreeperSnooper> then wait and double click to install?
#1661 [16:20] <Elystus> Yes :)
#1662 [16:20] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1663 [16:22] <CreeperSnooper> it says 3% done and the thing just dissapears so when do I knoe when its done?
#1664 [16:22] <CreeperSnooper> know
#1665 [16:22] <Elystus> I believe you are using chrome for your browser since it said chrome install.
#1666 [16:23] <CreeperSnooper> no
#1667 [16:23] <CreeperSnooper> but I hav chrome
#1668 [16:23] <CreeperSnooper> but i use the internet explorer
#1669 [16:23] <CreeperSnooper> the one with the blue e
#1670 [16:23] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: use Chrome :P
#1671 [16:23] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1672 [16:23] <Elystus> its faster and cooler
#1673 [16:23] <CreeperSnooper> haha lol
#1674 [16:24] <FookMe> elystus, i tried all the following options to try and get my crash code error, none of them worked.
#1675 [16:24] <Elystus> But since you are downloading on internet explorer... we will have to go to it's download page.
#1676 [16:24] <FookMe> I'm windows 7 + 64 bit
#1677 [16:24] <CreeperSnooper> so I should download from chrome right?
#1678 [16:25] <CreeperSnooper> then wat?
#1679 [16:25] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: No, cause then you are going to have multiple downloads.
#1680 [16:25] <Elystus> Just use it in the future.
#1681 [16:25] <CreeperSnooper> wait i cant use chrome b cuz my family used internet explorer
#1682 [16:25] <CreeperSnooper> ugh
#1683 [16:26] <Elystus> FookMe: the only thing I could suggest is getting a prtsc when it shows the error code.
#1684 [16:26] <CreeperSnooper> 3 hours of work just to get minecraft started
#1685 [16:26] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: If it is easier, i can just do everything for you.
#1686 [16:26] <FookMe> k
#1687 [16:26] <FookMe> one sec
#1688 [16:26] <CreeperSnooper> how
#1689 [16:26] <CreeperSnooper> plz oh plz
#1690 [16:26] <Elystus> ??> CreeperSnooper teamviewer
#1691 [16:26] <VoxelHead> CreeperSnooper: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1692 [16:26] <FookMe> Team viewer ftw?
#1693 [16:26] <VoxelHead> CreeperSnooper: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1694 [16:26] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: make sure to PM me the details though.
#1695 [16:27] <FookMe> hmm
#1696 [16:27] <FookMe> lol
#1697 [16:27] <CreeperSnooper> do I hav to download it?
#1698 [16:27] <CreeperSnooper> ugh
#1699 [16:27] <FookMe> No.
#1700 [16:27] <Elystus> there is a quick download version.
#1701 [16:27] <FookMe> theres a run option
#1702 [16:27] <FookMe> >.>
#1703 [16:27] <Elystus> http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS_en.exe
#1704 [16:27] <FookMe> Run/Install option
#1705 [16:27] <CreeperSnooper> so I should run it?
#1706 [16:28] <Elystus> I actually need to download it though... just got this new computer and forgot to install it.
#1707 [16:28] <CreeperSnooper> so wat do i do?
#1708 [16:28] <FookMe> Creeper
#1709 [16:28] <FookMe> I run team viewer
#1710 [16:28] <FookMe> you can run or install it
#1711 [16:28] <CreeperSnooper> ohh
#1712 [16:28] <FookMe> running it is faster.
#1713 [16:28] <Elystus> open this link and select run: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/TeamViewerQS_en.exe
#1714 [16:28] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1715 [16:29] <CreeperSnooper> i think it did it?
#1716 [16:29] <FookMe> Did a window pop up?
#1717 [16:29] <FookMe> with a blue frame.
#1718 [16:29] <Elystus> You should see an id and a password
#1719 [16:29] <CreeperSnooper> yup it did
#1720 [16:29] <FookMe> Ok
#1721 [16:29] <Elystus> Okay can you message that to me?
#1722 [16:29] <FookMe> is there a 9 digit number?
#1723 [16:30] <CreeperSnooper> ya the id and pass
#1724 [16:30] <Elystus> CreeperSnooper: Msg that to me
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#1726 [16:30] <CreeperSnooper> the id and pass
#1727 [16:30] <Elystus> yes
#1728 [16:30] <Elystus> ./msg Elystus
#1729 [16:30] <CreeperSnooper> how do I only messege that to u
#1730 [16:30] <FookMe> yes. Message him the ID and Pass for TeamViewer 7
#1731 [16:30] <CreeperSnooper> ok
#1732 [16:30] <CreeperSnooper> got it
#1733 [16:31] <CreeperSnooper> ./msg Elystus testing
#1734 [16:31] <CreeperSnooper> did it work?
#1735 [16:31] <Elystus> take out the period lol
#1736 [16:31] <CreeperSnooper> oh
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#1739 [16:53] <Elystus> I love teamviewer :)
#1740 [16:53] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#1742 [16:54] <Elystus> Makes everything easier to fix.
#1743 [16:54] <Elystus> I would have never been able to fix that over chat.
#1744 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1745 [16:54] <Elystus> ^
#1746 [16:54] <Elystus> v
#1747 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> AHAH!
#1748 [16:54] <Grim_Reaper> So THATS how you do an upside down one
#1749 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> Thank you Elystus
#1750 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#1751 [16:55] <Elystus> \o/
#1752 [16:55] <Elystus> o/\o
#1753 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> :o
#1754 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> oh wow we have a professional emotion person here \o/
#1755 [16:55] <Elystus> :3
#1756 [16:55] * Elystus is magic
#1756 [16:55] <Grim_Reaper> :3
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#1760 [17:16] <idiot202> ok i have tryied so many times to login in to my minecraft account and it says it has been migrated so then it said to use my email and i did but it said that my username or password were incorrect and i checked it and they werent
#1761 [17:16] <idiot202> so then i looked it up and i couldnt find a way to fix it
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#1763 [17:17] <idiot202> ok i have tryied so many times to login in to my minecraft account and it says it has been migrated so then it said to use my email and i did but it said that my username or password were incorrect and i checked it and they werent
#1764 [17:17] <idiot202> so then i looked it up and i couldnt find a way to fix it
#1765 [17:17] <Elystus> Marc_irl
#1766 [17:18] <idiot202> do you know what i sould do?
#1767 [17:18] <Elystus> idiot202: Did you migrate the account?
#1768 [17:19] <idiot202> no
#1769 [17:19] <idiot202> 3 days ago it started
#1770 [17:19] <Elystus> Marc_IRL was talking about this earlier. Do you have a fairly simple password?
#1771 [17:20] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, like... Minecraft. Or your username.
#1772 [17:20] * Elystus is a slick pinger
#1772 [17:20] <Marc_IRL> And have you sent a help ticket about it on help.mojang.com?
#1773 [17:20] <Elystus> ^
#1774 [17:20] <Marc_IRL> Because this process is way easier if I can just pull up your help ticket
#1775 [17:22] <Marc_IRL> idiot202: pokepoke
#1776 [17:22] <Marc_IRL> lovely
#1777 [17:23] <Marc_IRL> Well I tried
#1778 [17:23] <Elystus> Looks like his irc client crashed :/
#1779 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> Hi Marc - I had a question for you about the migrated accounts.
#1780 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> If he comes back, can you have him gather that info and poke me? I'm going back to customer emails.
#1781 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> Oh, yes.
#1782 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, just ask me here instead of over G+, which no one uses :p
#1783 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> well, no one cool.
#1784 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> haha
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#1786 [17:24] <Scott> Marc_IRL: Are you hiring more support staff?
#1787 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> Scott: not at this time
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#1789 [17:25] <Scott> Someone said you were D:
#1790 [17:25] <DiskDaemon> You should have an email or two from me about them too :)
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#1793 [17:25] <Marc_IRL> We're hiring a web developer? But not customer support.
#1794 [17:25] <Scott> I see.
#1795 [17:25] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: refresh my memory on your question? gift codes?
#1796 [17:26] <shnabs> Im having a Java error message when I try to download the game
#1797 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> Fundamentally, the question is in regard to gift codes. Do they follow you when you migrate from minecraft.net to mojang.com?
#1798 [17:26] <DiskDaemon> shnabs: What's the error that you're getting?
#1799 [17:27] <Marc_IRL> they do not follow you
#1800 [17:28] <Marc_IRL> They should still be viewable at minecraft.net/profile though
#1801 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, that was a surprise when I did migrate. Would it be a good idea to do a small article about that on help.mojang.com to help answer similar questions for others who migrate too?
#1802 [17:28] <Marc_IRL> I've asked for that to be changed, but I don't know if it will or not. Once we change a lot of Minecraft stuff over to Mojang accounts, it automatically fixes a lot of problems, and we can stop supporting an outdated system and database.
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#1804 [17:30] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: The next person that comes in here with a java ipv6 issue. can you ask them to take a screenshot of it?
#1805 [17:30] <Elystus> If I am not here :/
#1806 [17:30] <shnabs> error: could not create the java virtual Machine Error: A fatal exception has occurred. program will exit
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#1809 [17:31] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: will do
#1810 [17:31] <Elystus> thank :)
#1811 [17:31] <Brandon__> Hello... i am having a problem getting into my friends Multiplayer server
#1812 [17:32] <DiskDaemon> curses, I used to know how to resolve the virtual machine issue, but I'm too tired having just got up.
#1813 [17:32] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: I don't know what you mean. The account migration article totally has that information and was not just updated with it two seconds ago >.>
#1814 [17:32] <shnabs> this is the java error Im geting When I try to download minecraft error: could not create the java virtual Machine Error: A fatal exception has occurred. program will exit
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#1816 [17:33] <GreyVulpine> shnabs - Could you uninstall and reinstall java?
#1817 [17:33] <shnabs> dang i may have to wait for someone else to answer my question
#1818 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: *thumbs up*
#1819 [17:33] * DiskDaemon showers
#1819 [17:33] <Brandon__> (is anyone going to answer me)
#1820 [17:33] <shnabs> ive done that it hasnt worked
#1821 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Brandon__ - Can you elaborate further? What is your friend's server's address? What happens when you try to connect?
#1822 [17:34] <GreyVulpine> Are you able to connect to other servers?
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#1824 [17:35] <idiot202> Is anyone here?
#1825 [17:35] <Brandon__> 77.111.253.8< server and mmy internet works and then it says Connection Lost! and gives a responce code
#1826 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> !check 77.111.253.8
#1827 [17:35] <lutzee> !check 77.111.253.8
#1828 [17:35] <GreyVulpine> What code?
#1829 [17:35] <idiot202> I am having an issue currently I migrated my account but i entered in a false birthdate is their anything i can do?
#1830 [17:36] * GreyVulpine prods Marc_IRL
#1830 [17:36] <shnabs> Should I look up the [ Virtual Machine ] on how to fix it
#1831 [17:36] <GreyVulpine> shnabs - The virtual machine is java itself having a problem
#1832 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> Can't you just change your birthdate?
#1833 [17:36] <idiot202> How?
#1834 [17:37] <Brandon__> but my friend said it prolly doesnt work because i have Wi-fi
#1835 [17:37] <idiot202> It needs my birthdate to "verrify its me"
#1836 [17:37] <GreyVulpine> Brandon__ - Does it work when you connect to s.nerd.nu?
#1837 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> oooh, right, we just implemented that
#1838 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> Advice for the future: give correct information
#1839 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> I can't actually change your birthdate
#1840 [17:38] <superkabii> (the nerd servers are down)
#1841 [17:38] <shnabs> well crap cause unistal and reinstal doesnt work so should i ask java suport?
#1842 [17:38] <idiot202> Well when I got it I never did trust mojang same with every sight.
#1843 [17:38] <Brandon__> Said end of stream
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#1845 [17:38] <Scott> idiot202: you should complain to your mom :(
#1846 [17:38] <Scott> She is to blame for birth date changing!
#1847 [17:38] <GreyVulpine> Brandon__ - Do you use any sort of security software?
#1848 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> idiot202: you trusted us enough to give us your payment details, but not your birthdate? :-/
#1849 [17:38] <jasonium> Having trouble with my pick block button
#1850 [17:38] <Brandon__> Mcacfee i think
#1851 [17:38] <Brandon__> nope
#1852 [17:38] <idiot202> Lol ikr that was later
#1853 [17:39] <idiot202> i played the free version
#1854 [17:39] <idiot202> and upgraded my acc
#1855 [17:39] <Marc_IRL> Is it giving you any alternative options of logging in or verifying?
#1856 [17:39] <Brandon__> no sucurity software
#1857 [17:39] <idiot202> Sadly No.
#1858 [17:39] <Marc_IRL> balls
#1859 [17:39] <idiot202> Is their a way to make it send the information to my email?
#1860 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Brandon__ - Check into mcafee's security options, see if you have any web security settings that may be blocking minecraft from communicating correctly
#1861 [17:40] <Marc_IRL> Not that I can think of
#1862 [17:40] <Marc_IRL> Go here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new, send us an email, give all of the details (especially the transaction ID if you can), and I'll look at it and/or assign it to one of our web developers
#1863 [17:40] <idiot202> Thanks marc ill do that
#1864 [17:40] <jasonium> Has any run into pick block problems before?
#1865 [17:40] <Brandon__> well one multiplayer server worked b4
#1866 [17:41] <lutzee> jasonium, some items are buggy in 1.2.5 they should all be fixed by 1.3
#1867 [17:41] <jasonium> ok thanks
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#1872 [17:55] <helpplz> help??
#1873 [17:55] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL no you may not have that pass
#1874 [17:55] <DiskDaemon> helpplz: hi there
#1875 [17:55] <Grim_Reaper> Since I dont have one p-p
#1876 [17:56] <Marc_IRL> U R FUNNY
#1877 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I just realised - you can create the screenshot yourself, by forcing java to use IPv6 insteadl of IPv4 :)
#1878 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> But happy earlier birthday
#1879 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> \o/
#1880 [17:56] <Grim_Reaper> totally ;kick Marc_IRL happy early birthday
#1881 [17:56] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I never though of that o.o
#1882 [18:00] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL, please tweet something, saying I wished you happy birthday first!
#1883 [18:00] <Grim_Reaper> ;-;
#1884 [18:00] <Grim_Reaper> Goodlawd I need to stop using ;-; as an emotion
#1885 [18:01] <Marc_IRL> That's not how it works
#1886 [18:01] * Elystus changes the logs to make it look like he said it first
#1886 [18:01] <Marc_IRL> Don't be "that guy"
#1887 [18:01] <Elystus> But I wanna be the guy
#1888 [18:01] <Grim_Reaper> I wanna be your first
#1889 [18:01] <Marc_IRL> You don't wanna be "that guy" either
#1890 [18:01] <Grim_Reaper> WOA that came out wrong
#1891 [18:01] <Elystus> ^Horrible game refrence
#1892 [18:01] * Marc_IRL kicked Grim_Reaper from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rim_Reaper :Grim_Reaper)
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#1894 [18:01] <Grim_Reaper> It was an accident ;-;
#1895 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> Bad Grim!
#1896 [18:02] <Marc_IRL> And now you've tweeted it at me. You are that guy.
#1897 [18:02] <Grim_Reaper> I.. it came out wrong D:
#1898 [18:02] <Grim_Reaper> Marc_IRL lol <3
#1899 [18:02] <Marc_IRL> Aaaaaanyway, I'm getting back to work.
#1900 [18:02] <Grim_Reaper> Im not THAT guy
#1901 [18:02] <Marc_IRL> Ping me if something blows up
#1902 [18:02] <Grim_Reaper> I just wanted to wish you a happy birthday early ;-;
#1903 [18:02] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine it was totally an accident ;-;
#1904 [18:02] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: It was good to see you here - things always improve when you're around
#1905 [18:02] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1906 [18:03] <Marc_IRL> Aww.
#1907 [18:03] <Grim_Reaper> It livens the chat
#1908 [18:03] <Grim_Reaper> And it gives us reason to continue to help
#1909 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> and also another reason to note down issues, for presentation :)
#1910 [18:03] <Grim_Reaper> :p
#1911 [18:04] <Grim_Reaper> #minecrafthelp should totally get a coffee machine in an office somewhere
#1912 [18:04] <Grim_Reaper> And a snack bar
#1913 [18:04] <Marc_IRL> Present them.
#1914 [18:04] <Grim_Reaper> ^reminded me of a south park scene
#1915 [18:05] * DopeGhoti gives vox some coffee
#1915 [18:05] <DiskDaemon> Oh it's all done now, but since you're asking about them, I'll be sure to jot down some notes for next time...
#1916 [18:05] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1917 [18:05] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: What day is your birthday?
#1918 [18:06] <Grim_Reaper> Friday is thee..
#1919 [18:06] <Marc_IRL> That's the reference. I just couldn't quickly find it on youtube to link it right after :p
#1920 [18:06] <Grim_Reaper> 12th
#1921 [18:06] <Marc_IRL> 13th
#1922 [18:06] <Grim_Reaper> What
#1923 [18:06] <Grim_Reaper> Oh my bad
#1924 [18:06] <Grim_Reaper> Read wrong
#1925 [18:06] <Grim_Reaper> wait wait
#1926 [18:06] <Marc_IRL> Calendar fail
#1927 [18:06] <Grim_Reaper> Friday.. the 13th
#1928 [18:06] <Grim_Reaper> Oh noes!
#1929 [18:06] <Elystus> 2 days \o/
#1930 [18:06] <Marc_IRL> Yes, it happens every few years :p
#1931 [18:07] <Morrolan> ??< smp/servers
#1932 [18:08] <Elystus> Finally
#1933 [18:08] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: It took me 10 minutes to find out that my 32 bit was the version that minecraft was using :P
#1934 [18:08] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1935 [18:08] <Grim_Reaper> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/599712_432603470117520_1349633779_n.jpg
#1936 [18:09] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: It wasn't until yesterday that I realised that Internet Explorer on a 64-bit machine is 32-bit instead
#1937 [18:10] <Elystus> o/\o
#1938 [18:10] <Morrolan> ??~ smp/servers:There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/;;You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1939 [18:10] <Morrolan> Now either I messed up the syntax, or something else is messed up.
#1940 [18:11] <Grim_Reaper> ?? smp/servers
#1941 [18:11] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1942 [18:11] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/45-minecraft-survival-servers/. Also, try the #smp channel.
#1943 [18:11] * Morrolan checks logs
#1943 [18:11] <Morrolan> Should take a note somewhere.
#1944 [18:11] <DiskDaemon> Morrolan: I was noticing yesterday that one of the faqs gets cut off from being too long. I'll see if I can recall which one it is
#1945 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#1946 [18:12] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1947 [18:12] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also try using Google to search for a mod's installation inst
#1948 [18:12] <DiskDaemon> That's the one "inst"
#1949 [18:12] <Grim_Reaper> Nice find
#1950 [18:13] <Morrolan> Ah, it's a |, not a :.
#1951 [18:13] <Morrolan> ??~ smp/servers|There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/;;You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1952 [18:13] <DiskDaemon> ??< requirements
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#1954 [18:13] <Morrolan> Okay, there is another issue as well though, won't let me change it anymore. *shrug*
#1955 [18:13] * Morrolan prods DopeGhoti
#1955 [18:14] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Heh, I see. Guess we'll either have to reword it so it's short enough to fit into one IRC message, or we'll have to ask Dope to add it manually. :)
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#1957 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> Here's a shorter version, with http removed, and the google part reworded.
#1958 [18:15] <DiskDaemon> "For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also Google search for a mod's installation instructions."
#1959 [18:15] <lilybet> first stab at making a minecraft server. jus want basic something my son and i can play. question, i see to d/l the minecraft server.exe, it brings up a window and looks like it's downloading, do i wait until it's finished? does it take a long time? i let it run a while and it looked stuckl
#1960 [18:15] <Problystoned> So, my account has been hacked, and even after sending them a message over a week and a half ago, they still havnt responded... Why
#1961 [18:16] <Morrolan> Problystoned - Because they are currently working on mails from two months ago.
#1962 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> lilybet: The console that it brings up is the server itself. Minecraft connects with that server.
#1963 [18:16] <Morrolan> lilybet - The server will not download anything. It will first generate terrain, once that is done it should say something like "Done", then you can connect to it.
#1964 [18:16] <Problystoned> Is that serious...
#1965 [18:16] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1966 [18:16] <Morrolan> Yep, let me dig up the corresponding FAQ article, Problystoned.
#1967 [18:16] <lilybet> ok so wait on done
#1968 [18:17] <lilybet> thanks yall
#1969 [18:17] <Morrolan> Problystoned - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back- <- currently working on mails from the third of May.
#1970 [18:17] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Well I was not able to get java to fail by telling it to use ipv6. However I did discover how to make java run using the target wihtout having the command prompt there.
#1971 [18:17] <Elystus> without.
#1972 [18:17] <Morrolan> Problystoned - You did thry everything suggested in here though? http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1973 [18:17] <Morrolan> try*
#1974 [18:18] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Okay, I'll take care of it once I've got the permission again. (Respectively some other op might)
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#1976 [18:18] <Morrolan> Actually, I might know what the issue could be, chances are Vox checks the whole hostmask, including ident.
#1977 [18:20] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I don't know why you have so much trouble when it comes to creating problems. I seem to be able to create problems real easily.
#1978 [18:21] <Elystus> I can fix problems, but I can never cause them
#1979 [18:21] <Elystus> How did you do it disk?
#1980 [18:21] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I've created the problem on my computer just now, and have a screenshot for your records, here for you. http://i.imgur.com/lBaHE.png
#1981 [18:22] <Elystus> saved it, but how did you do it?
#1982 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> The problem can be recreated by reworking the following: "java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe"
#1983 [18:22] <DiskDaemon> So that it instead says: "java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=false -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=true -jar minecraft.exe"
#1984 [18:23] <Elystus> >_> wtf
#1985 [18:23] <Elystus> my computer doesn't like to break
#1986 [18:23] <Elystus> Thats exactly what I was doing btw
#1987 [18:23] * DiskDaemon bows to the lucky one
#1987 [18:24] <Elystus> I put "java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=false -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=true -jar minecraft.exe"
#1988 [18:25] <DiskDaemon> It seems to take a certain special skill to deliberately break things
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#1990 [18:27] <Elystus> Screw it... I got the photo.
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#1992 [18:28] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Perhaps your computer setup is capable of communicating via IPv6 with minecraft. That would hamper your ability to break things
#1993 [18:28] <Elystus> Maybe my computer is just the amazing unbreakable computer
#1994 [18:28] * Elystus goes to test it on his laptop.
#1994 [18:29] <NinjaKirby> Should nickname it Bruce Willis
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#1997 [18:35] <Morrolan> ??~ smp/servers|There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/;;You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1998 [18:35] <Morrolan> Well, there we go.
#1999 [18:35] <Elystus> java likes me too much.
#2000 [18:36] <Elystus> I am in an abusive relation ship with it.
#2001 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> With the http piece left in, this is still smaller than the cut off version of the mods faq. "For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also Google search for a mod's installation instructions."
#2002 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> ??~ mods|For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also Google search for a mod's installation instructions.
#2003 [18:36] <Morrolan> Hey, there's a first line too which you shouldn't forget about. ;)
#2004 [18:36] <Morrolan> ??< mods
#2005 [18:36] <DiskDaemon> gah - not allowed
#2006 [18:38] <Morrolan> ??~ mods|This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also
#2007 [18:38] <DiskDaemon> ah yes - the manner of doing multiline ones elludes me at this point
#2008 [18:38] <Morrolan> Heck, that one message is _far_ too long to be added this way.
#2009 [18:38] <Morrolan> You'll have to poke Dope to add it manually. (Unless we just drop the first line :S)
#2010 [18:39] <DiskDaemon> It must have been added by DopeGhoti separately then, yes.
#2011 [18:39] <Morrolan> Mhm. Just store the complete, shortened version of yours somewhere, and throw him a link to a pastebin or so. .)
#2012 [18:39] <Morrolan> :) *
#2013 [18:40] <DiskDaemon> I'll see if some creative editing can be performed in the meantime
#2014 [18:40] <Morrolan> Hehe.
#2015 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> This seems to be within length, without losing much in the way of content. I won't have permission for the modification to occur though.
#2016 [18:43] <DiskDaemon> ??~ mods|This channel is not a venue for mod support, or for modded servers. It's impossible for us to know every combination of mods so we don't assist with unofficial third-party modded content.;;For single player mods contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; Google search is also useful for mod's instructions
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#2020 [18:55] <Elystus_> DiskDaemon: Try to guess what was not allowing me to force java to use ipv6.
#2021 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> your router?
#2022 [18:55] <Elystus_> Norton >_>
#2023 [18:56] <DiskDaemon> My god, they were okay many years ago, but really, still using it now?
#2024 [18:56] <Elystus_> yes, kinda
#2025 [18:56] <Elystus_> It doesn't do anything except sit around and block random things
#2026 [18:57] <DiskDaemon> well thanks for confirming that our derision of Norton really isn't without merit after all
#2027 [18:58] <Elystus_> It is bad when you are trying to murder java
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#2029 [18:59] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: looking to tweak a FAQled definition?
#2030 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> DopeGhoti: Yep - the existing one is perfectly find, but could you complete the word "instruction" at the end of it?
#2031 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2032 [19:00] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2033 [19:00] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also
#2034 [19:00] <Minecrafthelp1444> My minecraft is'nt working i have a missngte error code it reads Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 -------- Generated 7/11/12 6:00 PM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Mac OS X (x86_64) version 10.7.3 Java: 1.6.0_31, Apple Inc. VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode)
#2035 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> Or since Morrolan was doing stuff, end it with "you can also Google search for a mod's installation instructions."
#2036 [19:01] <Minecrafthelp1444> I need help with my minecraft client it isnt loadin
#2037 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> Minecrafthelp1444 pastebin
#2038 [19:01] <VoxelHead> Minecrafthelp1444: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2039 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: We can help you with that
#2040 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> ??>> DiskDaemon mods
#2041 [19:01] <DopeGhoti> how's that?
#2042 [19:01] <DiskDaemon> beautiful
#2043 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> sometimes it's simpler to edit the file directly
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#2045 [19:02] <Minecrafthelp1444> http://pastebin.com/Yjksfys5 is the error report
#2046 [19:02] <DopeGhoti> I _still_ want to put it into a proper database one of these days
#2047 [19:03] <DiskDaemon> Is it viable to extent the editing nature of it so that you can specify which line is to be edited? That would make life easier for the ops, and you wouldn't need to be hassled to make such changes either
#2048 [19:03] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: thanks
#2049 [19:03] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: at present, each FAQ entry is on its own line
#2050 [19:03] <Minecrafthelp1444> so what would i do to fix the problem i have working at it for a while and im about to just give up
#2051 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> I have a cron job that chews on the file to create the index every hour.
#2052 [19:04] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: I am looking up some resources for you
#2053 [19:04] <Minecrafthelp1444> ok thanks
#2054 [19:04] <DopeGhoti> Caused by: java.io.IOException: Permission denied <-- hmm, filesystem permissions problem most likely
#2055 [19:04] <Minecrafthelp1444> how would i correct that?
#2056 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> Minecrafthelp1444: Applications -> System utilities -> Disk Utility, open your hard drive, go to First Aid, and click 'Repair Disk Permissions'
#2057 [19:05] <DiskDaemon> DopeGhoti: Due to the line-length limitation of IRC, could there be a way for someone to edit the second or third line of a FAQ entry just by itself?
#2058 [19:05] <Minecrafthelp1444> ok thanks lemme try that
#2059 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: not at present, which is why I want to SQLify it
#2060 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> Minecrafthelp1444: it'll take a while or three to run.
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#2062 [19:05] <Minecrafthelp1444> i dont see first aid
#2063 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> Minecrafthelp1444: one sec. You have Disk Utility open?
#2064 [19:06] <Minecrafthelp1444> Nvm
#2065 [19:06] <Minecrafthelp1444> yes
#2066 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> This is the article that I was searching for http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/649868-guide-mac-support-101-upd-14-june/
#2067 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> Minecrafthelp1444: click your hard drive from the list on the left, then, to the right, First Aid should be the first tab. You will then see 'Repair Disk Permissions' toward the bottom
#2068 [19:07] <Minecrafthelp1444> its doing its loadin thing so thanks so far
#2069 [19:07] <DopeGhoti> \o
#2070 [19:07] <Minecrafthelp1444> how long will it take would you say
#2071 [19:07] <Minecrafthelp1444> it would take
#2072 [19:08] <DopeGhoti> That depends on the speed and size of the hard drive, how many files there are, and a few other factors. Anywhere from five to ninety minutes.
#2073 [19:09] <Minecrafthelp1444> i have 1,427,935 files...
#2074 [19:10] <Minecrafthelp1444> bout 2 hours left
#2075 [19:10] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: Someone reported your same error to the sppeed optimization guide, and they fixed your error just by forcing an update of the minecraft files.
#2076 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, but then later they say it didn't work - I'll keep looking
#2077 [19:12] <DiskDaemon> and, he's gone anyway
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#2079 [19:13] <Elystus> I am going to take a break from this support article.
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#2081 [19:16] <Minecrafthelp1444> didnt work
#2082 [19:16] <Minecrafthelp1444> i still have no permission and the same error is occuring
#2083 [19:16] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: The first solution that works for some mac owners having that issue, is to perform a forced update on Minecraft.
#2084 [19:16] <Minecrafthelp1444> i just did that
#2085 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> And your repair permissions has completed?
#2086 [19:17] <Minecrafthelp1444> yes
#2087 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> It says that permission was denied when it tried to create a file. Does your username contain any special character, or spaces?
#2088 [19:18] <Minecrafthelp1444> my password does...
#2089 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> Your computer username that is, not the miencraft one
#2090 [19:18] <Minecrafthelp1444> of
#2091 [19:18] <Minecrafthelp1444> oh*
#2092 [19:18] <Elystus|tf2> your mc password?
#2093 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> Please don't type your password here.
#2094 [19:18] <Elystus|tf2> ^
#2095 [19:18] <Minecrafthelp1444> Yes 2 spaces
#2096 [19:18] <Elystus|tf2> that might cause an issue.
#2097 [19:18] <Minecrafthelp1444> i wont type it here
#2098 [19:18] <Minecrafthelp1444> So make a new account???
#2099 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: We'll see if we can help you to move your minecraft data files to a different location then.
#2100 [19:19] <Elystus|tf2> Disk: We could ask Marc to create a dummy account and see if spaces would cause an issue like this.
#2101 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> You can also test things out by creating a new account without that username issue
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#2103 [19:19] <Minecrafthelp1444> hold on i think i can fix it one moment please
#2104 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> Elystus|tf2: Sounds good - I'll jot a note for when I next see him, potentially tomorrow :)
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#2106 [19:20] <Minecrafthelp1444> it didnt work
#2107 [19:20] <Minecrafthelp1444> would this be because i dont have a certificate for minecraft on my network file for java
#2108 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> you what?
#2109 [19:20] <Minecrafthelp1444> from the security portion?
#2110 [19:21] <Minecrafthelp1444> nevermind
#2111 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> have you tried that?
#2112 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> Minecrafthelp1444 mac/profule
#2113 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> Minecrafthelp1444 mac/profile
#2114 [19:21] <VoxelHead> Minecrafthelp1444: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2115 [19:21] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: Just to confirm, what does the command prompt say for you when you open a console?
#2116 [19:21] <VoxelHead> Minecrafthelp1444: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#2118 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: Before that, you may want to try this as well
#2119 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/permissions
#2120 [19:23] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2121 [19:23] <VoxelHead> mac/permissions: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2122 [19:24] <Minecrafthelp1444> do i copy and paste that?
#2123 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> The chmod part onwards, yes.
#2124 [19:24] <Minecrafthelp1444> whats chmod?
#2125 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> change mode; alters file permissions
#2126 [19:24] <DopeGhoti> +x says 'make this file executable'
#2127 [19:25] <Minecrafthelp1444> ok after i type it in what do i do
#2128 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> Press Enter at the end of what you typed.
#2129 [19:26] <Minecrafthelp1444> ok
#2130 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> And then see if that helps to resolve the problem with Minecraft.
#2131 [19:26] <Minecrafthelp1444> nope
#2132 [19:27] <Minecrafthelp1444> is this what i enter to the terminal: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#2134 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that's right
#2135 [19:27] <haha7isaboss> hey diskdaemon
#2136 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: Out of curiosity, what does the command prompt of your terminal say?
#2137 [19:27] <DiskDaemon> haha7isaboss: yes?
#2138 [19:27] <Minecrafthelp1444> would it matter if my mincraft app was title something other than minecraft.app
#2139 [19:27] <Minecrafthelp1444> nothing
#2140 [19:28] <Minecrafthelp1444> no such file on directory...
#2141 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: To the left of the cursor, where you type
#2142 [19:28] <Minecrafthelp1444> liz-imac:~ the5fishers$
#2143 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> If it says nothing, it worked. If it says 'no such file okst
#2144 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> if it says no such file or directory, type in this command:
#2145 [19:29] <haha7isaboss> I have a question about a mod I downloaded. I have better than wolves installed, and I want mo' creatures installed, but it needs forge. Would i have to install forge? btw comes with forge, but the compatible mod list says any mod requiring forge is incompatible, even though mo' creatures is listed as compatible.
#2146 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> Thanks - I don't think that it's a special character issue then.
#2147 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> chmod +x Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2148 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> haha7isaboss: Sorry, we don't provide mod help here.
#2149 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> (note the lack of a slash before Applications)
#2150 [19:29] <Minecrafthelp1444> no such file
#2151 [19:29] <DopeGhoti> Minecrafthelp1444: Where did you install Minecraft to?
#2152 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> chmod +x /Wherever/it/is/that/you/put/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2153 [19:30] <Minecrafthelp1444> into a backup hardrive
#2154 [19:30] <Rikairchy> ......
#2155 [19:30] <DopeGhoti> if it's on an external drive, it's probably in /Volumes somewhere
#2156 [19:30] <haha7isaboss> Oh ok thanks anyway diskdaemon. And by the way (in case anyone else has this issue in the future) I found a workaround for that issue i came here for 2 weeks ago. Remember the stumper about my options gui error? Where I couldn't open options in-game wihtout a crash saying I was missing the vp.class? well i just edit the options.txt now. tedious, but it works :D
#2157 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> haha7isaboss: thanks for that workaround; good to know
#2158 [19:31] <haha7isaboss> lol no problem
#2159 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: yes?
#2160 [19:31] <Minecrafthelp1444> im confused
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#2162 [19:31] <Minecrafthelp1444> i also have minecraft in my applications
#2163 [19:32] <DiskDaemon> Minecrafthelp1444: The place where the minecraft launcher is saved, that doesn't change where the minecraft data files are created and stored on the computer
#2164 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> if you have it in your Applications directory, one of the two chmod commands you ran should not have said 'No such file or directory'.
#2165 [19:32] <Minecrafthelp1444> what r the two command again i would like to try them again
#2166 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> ??> Minecrafthelp1444 mac/permissions
#2167 [19:33] <VoxelHead> Minecrafthelp1444: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#2168 [19:33] <VoxelHead> Minecrafthelp1444: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#2169 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> Minecrafthelp1444: the other variant was the same, with no '/' in front of Applications
#2170 [19:33] <Minecrafthelp1444> ok the first on worked
#2171 [19:33] <Minecrafthelp1444> one worked
#2172 [19:34] <Minecrafthelp1444> minecraft still doesnt work though
#2173 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> Minecrafthelp1444: you still get the error as before?
#2174 [19:35] <Minecrafthelp1444> same one
#2175 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> Minecrafthelp1444 mac/profile
#2176 [19:35] <VoxelHead> Minecrafthelp1444: (mac/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2177 [19:35] <VoxelHead> Minecrafthelp1444: (mac/profile) Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2178 [19:35] <Minecrafthelp1444> ok hold on
#2179 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> macs are as strange to me as women
#2180 [19:36] <Minecrafthelp1444> would help to log in on another account instead of creating a whole entire new one?
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#2184 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> It's best with a new fresh account
#2185 [19:38] <Minecrafthelp1444> brb
#2186 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: OS X is just BSD with a crunchy candy shell on the outer layer.
#2187 [19:39] <DiskDaemon> It's that crunchy candy shell that gets between my teeth
#2188 [19:39] <DopeGhoti> Knowledge of POSIX is the floss that cures that problem (:
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#2190 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> well if all else fails, we can recommend that he posts a thread to the Minecraft General -> Support -> Minecraft Game Client Support thread page http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/151-minecraft-game-client-support/
#2191 [19:42] <DopeGhoti> I am reluctant to refer to the fora as authoritative.
#2192 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> His particular issue looks to be a very rare one, for which there are only a couple of reports, and no conclusive solution yet at this stage
#2193 [19:43] <DopeGhoti> which is why I used the word 'reluctant' rather than 'loathe' (:
#2194 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> He's been gone for 10 minutes now. If the new user account solved his problem, we may not see him back in here.
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#2198 [19:57] <becczbuscus> when you try to connect to a server and it says failed to connect connection timed out what doyou do
#2199 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> becczbuscus: You try a different server that you are able to maintain a connection with.
#2200 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> Ooh nice - vimium is a chrome extension that lets you use vim commands for your browsing
#2201 [20:03] <DiskDaemon> http://lifehacker.com/5925220/make-chrome-less-distracting-with-vimium-and-these-settings
#2202 [20:04] <Morrolan> wat?
#2203 [20:04] <Morrolan> What vim commands would be helpful while browsing? Oo
#2204 [20:04] * Morrolan reads the article now
#2204 [20:05] <Morrolan> Hmm, okay, I see.
#2205 [20:05] <Morrolan> But keyboard shortcuts only really make sense for applications where you actually are typing most of the time. (Like, well, coding, writing an essay and whatnot)
#2206 [20:06] <Morrolan> Whereas browsing websites is a lot about "click point drag click" nowadays.
#2207 [20:06] <DiskDaemon> I guess it's more or people who either despise the mouse, or want to emned themselves deeper in to the vim mindset
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#2209 [20:06] <DiskDaemon> *embed
#2210 [20:07] <DiskDaemon> Or a combination of both
#2211 [20:07] <Morrolan> Suppose so.
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#2215 [20:21] <Cypress> Heya, all.
#2216 [20:21] <Elystus|tf2> o/
#2217 [20:22] <Cypress> So, I've been experimenting with the mass spawning wolf/ocelot bug
#2218 [20:22] <Cypress> And I've found that, as far as the wolves go, they spawn on the creation of a new world typically, though I think sometimes it happens mid game as well
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#2220 [20:23] <Cypress> But I found that if I killed them all (namely by going underwater and attacking them from below, coming up just for air) they don't respawn
#2221 [20:23] <Elystus|tf2> nice
#2222 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> good skills there :)
#2223 [20:24] <Cypress> I'm running around a bit to see if they come back. I don't think they randomly spawn, I think they breed and just repopulate like rabbits.
#2224 [20:24] <Cypress> (Thank god we don't have those IG)
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#2227 [20:25] <Cypress> Anyway, I'll keep you updated. I downloaded an older version of MC and tried playing it, but I'm running into the bug there as well.
#2228 [20:26] <Creeper9026> is anyone having trouble with the spout download saying no mirror available?
#2229 [20:26] <eazy> easiest way to install mods
#2230 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> Creeper9026: We don't support modded servers here sorry
#2231 [20:26] <Creeper9026> boooooo
#2232 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> eazy: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods#How_to_install_mods
#2233 [20:26] <eazy> its not illegal or against any rules is it? and thanks
#2234 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> It's just that there's far too many to be able to troubleshoot
#2235 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2236 [20:27] <Rikairchy> just not supported here
#2237 [20:27] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2238 [20:27] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2239 [20:28] <eazy> ok ill try that thanks
#2240 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> There is a #direwolf20 channel though where discussion on mods occurs
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#2242 [20:46] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Soooo... what do you do, anyway? You're here more often than I am, and I'm often here during the hours I'm paid to be doing customer support :p
#2243 [20:46] <Marc_IRL> And the others that are always here. How do you guys pull that off? College students? High school students home for the summer?
#2244 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> I'm fortunate enough to be able to work from home. So I just need to do a few hours of work every week or so to afford my extravagant lifestyle
#2245 [20:48] <Rikairchy> I just have a large amount of caffeine
#2246 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> Hrm. Somehow my response gave the impression of ansering the question without actually answering the question :)
#2247 [20:50] <Marc_IRL> I noticed :p
#2248 [20:50] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I do IT support for a resource centre that deals with Hepatitis C issues. I also manage their web page, and am converting an out of print resource manual of theirs in to an ebook, for use by the Ministry of Health (government stuff).
#2249 [20:51] <Marc_IRL> sweet
#2250 [20:51] <VoxelHead> sweeeeeeeeeeeeet
#2251 [20:52] <Rikairchy> VoxelHead go +q yourself >.>
#2252 [20:52] <VoxelHead> sorry no, I'm still sore from last time
#2253 [20:52] <DiskDaemon> Because of the type of work that's being done, I charge it out at $50 an hour, so I don't have to work very hard or for long to pay the bills
#2254 [20:52] <Rikairchy> then you did it wrong, VoxelHead
#2255 [20:53] <Rikairchy> DiskDaemon: at that rate I could work 10 hours a month to pay for all my bills
#2256 [20:53] <DiskDaemon> It's a nice lifestyle :)
#2257 [20:53] <Rikairchy> how old are you?
#2258 [20:54] <Rikairchy> 20's, 30's or 40's
#2259 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> I used to do work for the hospital, maintaining some of their machines at $80 an hour, or $160 for off-cycle work
#2260 [20:54] <DiskDaemon> Currently I'm 38 and trying to not feel my age too much
#2261 [20:54] <Rikairchy> I'm only 19
#2262 [20:54] <Rikairchy> I shouldn't feel as I do
#2263 [20:54] <Rikairchy> but.....
#2264 [20:59] <Marc_IRL> Wish I made $50 an hour :p
#2265 [20:59] <Marc_IRL> Actually, I have no idea how much I make per hour
#2266 [21:00] <Elystus|tf2> Sounds awesome
#2267 [21:01] <Marc_IRL> Okay, definitely not $50, haha
#2268 [21:01] <VoxelHead> you're after my robot bee@!#!%percent~^£%percent%percent!*%percent%percent
#2269 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> The good thing is that I don't mind earning less when it's more reliable longer term work
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#2271 [21:01] <Marc_IRL> And if it gives you a lot of free time, that's awesome
#2272 [21:02] <Marc_IRL> Since I work "from home", it gives me the freedom to move around a bit. I just spent a month in Canada, now I'm in LA, then going to Seattle. As long as I get stuff done, I'm solid.
#2273 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> nice one
#2274 [21:02] <VoxelHead> Wanna show me what it can do?
#2275 [21:03] <Elystus|tf2> Voxelhead, stop gaining a mind of your own
#2276 [21:03] <Elystus|tf2> :P
#2277 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead: Later on, when you're more capable of understanding
#2278 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> roll on skynet.
#2279 [21:04] <Elystus|tf2> ^
#2280 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Oh yes, another reason why you always see me in here is that I am always in here. I use a bouncer so that I can stay connected if I disconnect, so that the bouncer can catch me up with what's happened when I reconnect
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#2282 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> And I stay logged in while sleeping too so that I can check out the scrollback later on :)
#2283 [21:06] <Elystus|tf2> I need to get a bouncer :/
#2284 [21:07] <DiskDaemon> #freebnc is the one that's commonly used around here
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#2286 [21:08] <Marc_IRL> I try to drop in when I'm working or bored
#2287 [21:08] <Elystus|tf2> I have one to use, more like I need to set it up.
#2288 [21:08] <Marc_IRL> But when it starts to nag at my brain (thanks, actual ADD), I turn it off
#2289 [21:09] <Marc_IRL> I have a tendency to always want to check stuff like this. So when I am here, it's usually in another window that I can't see, which is why using my name to beep me is really the only thing that gets my attention.
#2290 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: How viable is it for techs to search the backlog for the same issue (error report info, perhaps) to help streamline the response that can be sent out to them?
#2291 [21:09] <Marc_IRL> Also, I've noticed a bunch of people are here, but not a lot talk. And I see Tobias and Leo have nicknames here, but I've never heard them.
#2292 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> Or would that get in the way of the policy to treat them in pretty much the same order that they've been received?
#2293 [21:10] <ShaRose> Tobias almost never speaks. I don't think I've ever see Leo talk at all...
#2294 [21:10] <Marc_IRL> We already have responses streamlined. The canned text for 80% of the emails that we send is just another article, like on the help site, except they're hidden and only viewable internally to us. We use a macro and it tosses it in there. As for searching for the same issues and doing a bunch at once, that's tricky.
#2295 [21:10] * ShaRose looks in logs
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#2296 [21:11] <DiskDaemon> Ooh, I had another question too. /me scans scrollback
#2297 [21:11] <Nachos> I tried to download the Technic Pack but it didn't work. So I deleted all my Minecraft files, hoping to reinstall Minecraft. But when I go to Minecraft.net and click download, the loading screen always freezes on downloading packages. I've tried: -Force Updating -Uninstalling all my Java stuff and reinstalling -Restoring my computer -Deleting all minecraft associated files -Installing as admin
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#2299 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> Nachos: Sorry , we don't provide support for technic here.
#2300 [21:12] <ShaRose> oh, and now I have a full 3 gigs of irc logs :D
#2301 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: No, it's okay. It was a query relating to a mac account issue from earlier on.
#2302 [21:13] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing things from happening. You can temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2303 [21:13] <Nachos> no my friend wanted to and i didnt. i just cant even download minecraft anymore
#2304 [21:13] <ShaRose> tobias last talked almost exactly one month ago, down to a few hours.
#2305 [21:13] <ShaRose> Leo (as I thought) has never talked
#2306 [21:13] <ShaRose> at all
#2307 [21:13] <Marc_IRL> The issue with bulk responses that is that currently, the only way to do that is with keywords, and sometimes a keyword is for another issue entirely. We could set up incoming emails to be tagged with certain issues or words, but that'd require a rework that we're not prepared to do at this time. For now, we'll answer emails in the order received, and will soon implement the secret plan to catch up (TM).
#2308 [21:14] * Elystus puts on the music and gets back to work on the support thread.
#2308 [21:14] <ShaRose> is it called hire more people for a quick burst of availability? :V
#2309 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> Hurray - pile on those temp workers :)
#2310 [21:14] <Elystus> ^
#2311 [21:14] <Cypress> Wow, $50 an hour. Any recommendations on how to start working from home? :3
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#2313 [21:15] <ShaRose> Cypress government contracting work etc
#2314 [21:15] <squiggy> hello
#2315 [21:15] <squiggy> i need big help can any german talk?
#2316 [21:15] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: ;-)
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#2319 [21:15] <Elystus> I need to get a job :/
#2320 [21:16] <Cypress> I suppose for that you need some kind of qualifications.
#2321 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> Cypress: How to work from home? Perhaps this recent article might help. http://www.sitepoint.com/how-to-find-clients/
#2322 [21:16] <Elystus> Maybe I will just make websites :P
#2323 [21:16] <Cypress> Thanks, I'll give it a once-over.
#2324 [21:16] <Tino> Does anyone know why my minecraft won't update when I open it?
#2325 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> Tino: Yes, we can help with that
#2326 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing things from happening. You can temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2327 [21:17] <Tino> I do not know a lot about computers. How do I disable my antivirus program?
#2328 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> That all depends on which antivirus program you are using
#2329 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> Is it AVG?
#2330 [21:18] <ShaRose> I should probably index my logs, it took more than 30 seconds :( http://i.imgur.com/VyHAv.png
#2331 [21:18] <Tino> Yes
#2332 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> Thought so, that one's notorious for causing your issue.
#2333 [21:18] <Cypress> Heh, you know, I thought it would be cool to be a jack of all trades. In reality, lack of specilization hugely undermines the ability to get good work.
#2334 [21:18] <Rikairchy> not so
#2335 [21:18] <Scott> Cypress: I do IT consulting.
#2336 [21:18] * Elystus sticks to php
#2336 [21:18] <Scott> $125/hour :P
#2337 [21:19] <Elystus> O.o
#2338 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> Tino: This should help: http://www.avg.com/ww-en/faq.num-3857
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#2341 [21:20] <Cypress> Well, I'm very computer literate, I know a bit about programming with C++ etc, I know html, I'm good at carpentry and construction, I was told by my english comp 1 teacher that I had better composition skills than most of the english department staff... but I've never had more than a basic retail job. Did a paper route for a few months, will never forget that.
#2342 [21:21] <Cypress> Not that I'm complaining, I suppose I've just been unlucky. And I live in a very crummy, economically deprived region.
#2343 [21:21] <Rikairchy> i learned a lot about networking, Linux, Windows, electrical engineering, and a few other things
#2344 [21:21] <Rikairchy> then i got drunk and joined the army
#2345 [21:21] <Thunder7102> Hey guys, can I have a bit of help with Minecraft on Ubuntu?
#2346 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> Cypress: I've found that it's a "who you know" kind of situation that can help a lot towards getting a job that you're good at
#2347 [21:21] <Tino> DiskDaemon: Thank you so much, it worked
#2348 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#2349 [21:22] <Thunder7102> For some reason, I get a 1/10th of a second freeze while moving every few seconds and it is bugging me. The client has optifine built in and I get the same issue in single player.
#2350 [21:23] <Thunder7102> While looking around, the camera also tends to 'snap back' to an earlier position while moving it so I have to move it back into place about as often as the earlier bug
#2351 [21:23] <Cypress> Yeah, I've heard that one a lot. I've always loved the idea of making money from my computer, I've just not been able to find a niche that I feel I could do an adequate job on it.
#2352 [21:23] <Thunder7102> The graphics card is a Nvidia GeForce GTS 450
#2353 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> Thunder7102: This may help: http://www.jondev.net/articles/Ubuntu_11.04_choppy_or_slow
#2354 [21:24] <Cypress> So that's what you attribute your success to, DD? Who you've known?
#2355 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> Not completely of course, you need the "waht you know" to back you up too, but it's who you know where the good opportunities are more likely to come from
#2356 [21:25] <Thunder7102> DiskDaemon, vsync is already disabled
#2357 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> Thunder7102: It's an opengl issue that's causing what you have, so see how things go after using the more recently version of opengl. Other that that, I know little on linux issues and must bow to my compatriats here
#2358 [21:29] <Rikairchy> someone say linux?
#2359 [21:29] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy, I.
#2360 [21:29] <Rikairchy> whats up
#2361 [21:29] <Rikairchy> ?
#2362 [21:30] <Thunder7102> My minecraft has these 1/10 of a second freezes every few seconds and it is making the game annoying as anything to play
#2363 [21:30] <Rikairchy> what version of linux are you running?
#2364 [21:30] <Thunder7102> it will snap the camera back to a previous position I had it a second ago about as often
#2365 [21:30] <Thunder7102> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
#2366 [21:30] <Rikairchy> you have sudo, i assume?
#2367 [21:30] <Thunder7102> yes
#2368 [21:31] <Rikairchy> have you enabled restricted drivers?
#2369 [21:31] <Thunder7102> yes, it is running on my Nvidia one
#2370 [21:32] <Thunder7102> I get GREAT framerate, but this random freezing is irritating
#2371 [21:32] <Rikairchy> do a sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
#2372 [21:34] <Thunder7102> nothing upgraded
#2373 [21:34] <Thunder7102> i just updated today
#2374 [21:35] <Elystus> Disk: Can you read through the Java fix part I just finished?
#2375 [21:36] <Rikairchy> are you running sun or openjdk
#2376 [21:36] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy, openjdk, am I not supposed to?
#2377 [21:36] <Rikairchy> no, openjdk is the good one
#2378 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> Sure, but where is it?
#2379 [21:36] <Rikairchy> openjdk-6-jre right?
#2380 [21:36] <Thunder7102> yes
#2381 [21:36] <Elystus> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lTFDs4wPBQxOGX0195duSYBBVJoZ1stVRyoNezswZMs/edit
#2382 [21:36] <Elystus> You can edit it if something is unclear or wrong.
#2383 [21:37] <Rikairchy> hm
#2384 [21:37] <Rikairchy> have you tried a force update?
#2385 [21:37] <Thunder7102> force update of what?
#2386 [21:37] <Rikairchy> minecraft
#2387 [21:37] <Thunder7102> no, I am using a custom client. so I do not think that would resolve the problem
#2388 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> Can we please confirm that using the vanilla Minecraft launcher and client, that you get the same issue?
#2389 [21:38] <Thunder7102> I do.
#2390 [21:38] * DiskDaemon strongly resists the urge to headdesk
#2390 [21:38] <Thunder7102> The custom client has optifine in it, so that's why I switched upon earlier request.
#2391 [21:39] <Thunder7102> I get at least 60FPS except for the freeze every so often.
#2392 [21:40] <Rikairchy> remove the custom client fully
#2393 [21:40] <Rikairchy> and then run minecraft.jar
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#2395 [21:41] <Thunder7102> Ok, and I am still getting the same issue
#2396 [21:42] <Rikairchy> you've fully removed it
#2397 [21:42] <Rikairchy> can you run it through a terminal and see if any errors are thrown?
#2398 [21:42] <Thunder7102> I just switched out the jar files in .minecraft
#2399 [21:42] <Rikairchy> okay
#2400 [21:42] <Rikairchy> rename the entire .minecraft folder
#2401 [21:42] <Thunder7102> e.o
#2402 [21:43] <Rikairchy> do mv ~/.minecraft/ ~/.minecraft2/
#2403 [21:43] <j22> when i try to open my minecraft on my desktop it says "error:could not create the java virtual machine"
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#2405 [21:43] <momofminecraft> I need help with Minecraft
#2406 [21:43] <Rikairchy> we could guess :P
#2407 [21:44] <j22> when i try to open my minecraft on my desktop it says "error:could not create the java virtual machine"
#2408 [21:44] <Rikairchy> repeating doesnt often help
#2409 [21:44] <Rikairchy> have you tried reinstalling java?
#2410 [21:44] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy, how do I launch it from command line exactly?
#2411 [21:44] <momofminecraft> My daughter tried to download the Too Many Items Mod and now Minecraft just won't work
#2412 [21:44] <j22> like updating]
#2413 [21:44] <Rikairchy> ?? momofminecraft forceupdate
#2414 [21:44] <Rikairchy> ohu
#2415 [21:44] <Rikairchy> ?? momofminecraft reinstall
#2416 [21:45] <Rikairchy> ihachu
#2417 [21:45] <Rikairchy> momofminecraft
#2418 [21:45] <Elystus> ??> momofminecraft win/reinst
#2419 [21:45] <VoxelHead> momofminecraft: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2420 [21:45] <VoxelHead> momofminecraft: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2421 [21:45] <Rikairchy> .........................
#2422 [21:45] <momofminecraft> We actually deleted the whole Minecraft download and tried to reinstall and it still doesn't work
#2423 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> momofminecraft: What error occurs when it doesn't work?
#2424 [21:46] <momofminecraft> it won't work when we play in browser either
#2425 [21:46] <Rikairchy> i'd continue to help
#2426 [21:46] <Rikairchy> but I've laundry ;D
#2427 [21:46] <momofminecraft> It says Minecraft has crashed
#2428 [21:47] <DiskDaemon> Okay, is there a crash report that you can copy?
#2429 [21:47] <Thunder7102> also, setting fullscreen or going into windowed mode is really slow
#2430 [21:48] <momofminecraft> When we reinstalled it -it just says Updating Minecraft and the load screen continues forever
#2431 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. You can temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2432 [21:48] <momofminecraft> how do I do that for just Minecraft?
#2433 [21:48] <j22> what does error:could not create the java virtual mean
#2434 [21:48] <Thunder7102> I just hit F3 in minecraft to see what was up, and the graph on the bottom hits the ceiling when the temporary lag starts.
#2435 [21:48] <Thunder7102> If I am not moving, it does not happen
#2436 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> momofminecraft: Is it AVG that you're using?
#2437 [21:49] <momofminecraft> what does AVG mean? :)
#2438 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> momofminecraft: What is the antivirus program that you are using?
#2439 [21:49] <momofminecraft> McAfee
#2440 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> momofminecraft: Instructions on how to temporarily disable Mcafee can be found at https://community.mcafee.com/thread/44575
#2441 [21:50] <momofminecraft> Ahh - actually I just saw that I can pull down the drop down menu and disable it for the download
#2442 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> good one
#2443 [21:50] <momofminecraft> thank you - I will try that
#2444 [21:51] <j22> who can help me please
#2445 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> j22: We might be able to
#2446 [21:52] <Elystus> Hmmm, I search for a photo for the avg link scanning module... about 3 lines down there is my avatar O.o
#2447 [21:52] <j22> when i open minecraft it say coulnd not create javavirtual machine
#2448 [21:52] <Elystus> 6 lines down(
#2449 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> j22: Is your operating system 64-bit or 32-bit?
#2450 [21:54] <j22> how do i check that
#2451 [21:54] <Elystus> press start and right click on computer. select properties.
#2452 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> You can check that by going to your start menu, right-clicking on the Computer and choosing properties
#2453 [21:55] <Thunder7102> guys, any ideas?
#2454 [21:55] <Rikairchy> Thunder7102: reconfigure your drivers
#2455 [21:55] <Thunder7102> reconfigure? I just installed them. What shoudl I change?
#2456 [21:56] <j22> after that where do i go general compatiballitys archive summmary
#2457 [21:56] <Rikairchy> any openGL or vsync settings should be set to auto/default
#2458 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> j22: There should be info there such as Processor, Installed memory, System type, and others. What is the system type there?
#2459 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> j22: From what you're saying there, it looks like you're in the wrong place.
#2460 [21:57] <j22> you said right click and go to proprites
#2461 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> j22: On the Computer section that's in your Start menu.
#2462 [21:57] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/HNSE j22 do you see that?
#2463 [21:57] <Thunder7102> the game also takes a bit of time to log into a server. e.o
#2464 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> j22: Another way to get there is: Open System by clicking the Start button , clicking Control Panel, clicking System and Maintenance, and then clicking System.
#2465 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> from: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/View-your-computer-information
#2466 [21:58] <j22> ok im there
#2467 [21:59] <Thunder7102> no dice Rikairchy. I am looking at the status, and the spikes (I see spikes in the F3 menu) only happen while I am moving
#2468 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> j22: What is your System type, that's reported there?
#2469 [21:59] <Rikairchy> what processor have you got?
#2470 [21:59] <j22> im on 64
#2471 [21:59] <j22> 64 bit
#2472 [21:59] <Thunder7102> AMD Athlon II 4x 2.8Ghz
#2473 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> j22: Good. Now let's find out where your Java is installed
#2474 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> j22: Is your Java folder in the "Program Files" folder, the "Program Files (x86) folder, or both?
#2475 [22:00] <Rikairchy> you runnin openJDK 64?
#2476 [22:00] <Thunder7102> 64?
#2477 [22:00] <Thunder7102> I just installed openJDK 6
#2478 [22:00] <Rikairchy> hm
#2479 [22:01] <Rikairchy> its either the restricted driver, java, or openGL
#2480 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Something you may want to fix up in those instructions (I'm not sure on how to word it) is that when saving a bat file from the notepad, if there is already a badly named version of it already saved from an initial failed attempt, such as report.bat.txt then the notepad will save to that again, no matter what you set the "save as type" to.
#2481 [22:01] <j22> i cant find it in my files
#2482 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Could you test situation and confirm it on your system?
#2483 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> j22: Open a command prompt then, and run this command: java -version
#2484 [22:02] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy: Not sure if this helps, but even paused, I get system-wide lag if I try to drag the java window ANYWHERE
#2485 [22:03] <Rikairchy> reinstall openJDK
#2486 [22:03] <Rikairchy> I know on debian it failed
#2487 [22:03] <Rikairchy> and I had to purge it
#2488 [22:03] <j22> it comes up but does not stay
#2489 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> j22: Open the command prompt window first, then run that command
#2490 [22:03] <Thunder7102> just uninstall and reinstall via software center?
#2491 [22:03] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Which one?
#2492 [22:03] <Rikairchy> uh
#2493 [22:04] <Rikairchy> dont use software center dude
#2494 [22:04] <Rikairchy> are you used to windows?
#2495 [22:04] <Rikairchy> or just scared of a little CLI ;D
#2496 [22:04] <Thunder7102> yes
#2497 [22:04] <Thunder7102> I know very few of the CLI commands so...
#2498 [22:04] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I am going to include a download link incase it doesn't work for some people.
#2499 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Save a notepad file first as report.bat (without changing the type) so that it creates a text file with that name. And then try saving it as a proper batch file.
#2500 [22:04] <Rikairchy> use: sudo apt-get purge openjdk*
#2501 [22:04] <j22> i open the start button then i pushed run then typed java and a small black screen came up then it left
#2502 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> j22: Press the Windows key to open the start menu, and start typing the word "Command"
#2503 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> The Command Prompt should then show as one of the programs that you can run
#2504 [22:05] <Thunder7102> oh CRAP
#2505 [22:05] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy, you didn't tell me it would remove all that. :'(
#2506 [22:05] <Rikairchy> we're going to fix it
#2507 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> j22: I now have to head off to meet up with my family, but I'll leave you in the filly capable hands of the people who remain here
#2508 [22:06] <Rikairchy> oh god why
#2509 [22:06] <Rikairchy> D:
#2510 [22:06] <DiskDaemon> :)
#2511 [22:06] <Thunder7102> It is removing Eclipse.
#2512 [22:06] <VoxelHead> :o)
#2513 [22:06] <j22> ok thanks
#2514 [22:06] <Rikairchy> wtf
#2515 [22:06] <Rikairchy> it shouldnt
#2516 [22:06] <Thunder7102> good thing I hadn't made anything in it yet. :P
#2517 [22:06] <Rikairchy> unless....
#2518 [22:06] <Rikairchy> did you download eclipse's source, or through Software Manager
#2519 [22:07] <Thunder7102> software manager
#2520 [22:07] <Rikairchy> ....
#2521 [22:07] <Rikairchy> i see a trend.
#2522 [22:07] <Rikairchy> is it finished?
#2523 [22:07] <Thunder7102> yes
#2524 [22:07] <Rikairchy> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
#2525 [22:08] <Thunder7102> it should be done
#2526 [22:08] <Rikairchy> it'll tell you when its done
#2527 [22:09] <Thunder7102> I have my prompt back
#2528 [22:09] <Thunder7102> at the end it says "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"
#2529 [22:09] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I see what you are saying.
#2530 [22:09] <Thunder7102> And the prompt for me to type new commands afterwards
#2531 [22:09] <Rikairchy> do java -version and tell me the output
#2532 [22:09] <Rikairchy> just teh version number
#2533 [22:09] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: However, I will include a download link (with a completely diffrent name) instead it does not work.
#2534 [22:10] <Thunder7102> java version "1.6.0_24"
#2535 [22:10] <Thunder7102> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.1) (6b24-1.11.1-4ubuntu3)
#2536 [22:10] <Thunder7102> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
#2537 [22:10] <Thunder7102> noiro@Noiro:~$
#2538 [22:10] <Rikairchy> okay
#2539 [22:10] <Rikairchy> now do java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar /path/to/your/minecraft.jar
#2540 [22:11] <j22> rikairchy can you help me when you you are finished with helping thunder7102
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#2542 [22:11] <Rikairchy> possibly
#2543 [22:11] <Rikairchy> I have laundry
#2544 [22:11] <Rikairchy> and its 2211
#2545 [22:11] <Rikairchy> and i have to be up in six hours
#2546 [22:13] <Elystus> j22 what is happening?
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#2548 [22:13] <VoxelHead> bye Allison_
#2549 [22:14] <j22> well when i open my minecraft it says could not create the java virtual machine
#2550 [22:14] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy, do you save these files with a .ch extension for linux scripts?
#2551 [22:14] <Rikairchy> what files?
#2552 [22:14] <Rikairchy> just run that script in terminal
#2553 [22:14] <Rikairchy> and .sh is for shell scripts
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#2555 [22:15] <Thunder7102> woah, lots of errors lol
#2556 [22:15] <kbot> i need so help with my version of minecraft for the xbox 360. it keeps frezing up on me when i try and leve the nether.
#2557 [22:16] <Elystus> j22: Do you have 32 or 64 bit windows?
#2558 [22:16] <j22> 64
#2559 [22:16] <kbot> im using an xbox 360
#2560 [22:16] <Rikairchy> kbot: iirc, we dont support minecraft for xbox
#2561 [22:16] <Elystus> What version of java do you have?
#2562 [22:17] <Elystus> J22^
#2563 [22:17] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy, same problem, except now sound is messed up
#2564 [22:17] <Rikairchy> Thunder7102: pastebin those logs
#2565 [22:17] <kbot> why dont you saport minecraft for 360. its minecraft?
#2566 [22:17] <Rikairchy> hm
#2567 [22:17] <Rikairchy> support*
#2568 [22:17] <Rikairchy> and because its a closed source console port
#2569 [22:17] <Rikairchy> not much we can do
#2570 [22:17] <Rikairchy> call microsoft and complain
#2571 [22:17] <kbot> whats the number?
#2572 [22:18] <kbot> to call
#2573 [22:18] <Rikairchy> i'll give you the website
#2574 [22:18] <Rikairchy> http://www.google.com
#2575 [22:18] <kbot> k
#2576 [22:18] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy: http://pastebin.com/HXkrf78e
#2577 [22:18] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go ;(
#2578 [22:19] <Rikairchy> wtf.
#2579 [22:19] <Rikairchy> is this through vanilla?
#2580 [22:19] <Thunder7102> yes
#2581 [22:20] <Rikairchy> remove .minecraft and force update
#2582 [22:20] <j22> 64 bit
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#2584 [22:22] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: just added links for the bat files.
#2585 [22:23] <Thunder7102> Just tried that and same results. The sound is so weird lol.
#2586 [22:23] * Rikairchy hits Elystus with a .bat file
#2586 [22:23] * Elystus eats the bat
#2586 [22:23] * Rikairchy makes Elystus gag on the bat
#2586 [22:27] <Elystus> I am done for tonight :/
#2587 [22:27] <Thunder7102> sound randomly started working again. e.o
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#2589 [22:30] <Thunder7102> Rikairchy: http://pastebin.com/amTEzRMZ
#2590 [22:31] <Thunder7102> Sound randomly came on during gameplay. The pausing still persists. In the game, the graph shows it may possibly be a massive CPU lag spike or something
#2591 [22:34] <Elystus> who is viewing the mc tech support thread page?
#2592 [22:34] <Elystus> I just saw 2 people randomly join.
#2593 [22:35] <Elystus> 1 left.
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#2596 [22:43] <skyboy> ..can the south/east quirk result in a pulse lasting less than 1 tick?
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#2599 [22:57] <VoxelHead> i like them =)
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#2601 [23:00] <JusExcon> my minecraft crashes as soon as i enter a game
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#2604 [23:13] <username> my game keeps turning black and i cant access it when i either launch the game login or join my favorite server ( killion detention center ) ( that might help but i don't know how as i experience login "blackouts" on a computer its not registered with ) this is both pon pc and mac
#2605 [23:14] <username> i accidently put pon at that last part sorry
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#2608 [23:26] <gamerD10> those two posts were from me and this new name is my mincraft username
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#2610 [23:34] <meestafa> Is it possible to change the email associate with my account?
#2611 [23:35] <meestafa> answer found. thanks for your time.
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#2616 [23:49] <dr_bibble> my minecraft wont update what do i do?
#2617 [23:52] <gamerD10> you click force update its above the login buototon
#2618 [23:53] <gamerD10> buton
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#2620 [23:55] <SerenityE> Anyone here that can help me with a port forward problem?