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#2 [00:00] <csmit195> back
#3 [00:00] <csmit195> It appeared to not have worked.
#4 [00:00] <csmit195> Restarted after installing their beta driver.
#5 [00:00] <csmit195> and the game does the same
#6 [00:01] <skyboy> beta?
#7 [00:01] <csmit195> yah the latest one is the beta.
#8 [00:02] <csmit195> http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/catalyst126legacyproducts.aspx
#9 [00:02] <csmit195> this
#10 [00:02] <csmit195> I chose my ones
#11 [00:02] <csmit195> and ti downloaded
#12 [00:02] <csmit195> and installed drivers
#13 [00:02] <csmit195> restarted pc
#14 [00:02] <csmit195> same everything
#15 [00:02] <csmit195> i can play any other game then this. so :|
#16 [00:04] <csmit195> omg
#17 [00:04] <csmit195> i went into device manager
#18 [00:04] <csmit195> clicked my graphics card
#19 [00:04] <csmit195> Searching for drivirs
#20 [00:04] <csmit195> found htme
#21 [00:04] <csmit195> should i use them?
#22 [00:06] <skyboy> you can try it, but first, delete the lwjgl and jinput jars and relaunch minecraft
#23 [00:15] <VoxelHead> we have no time for these games~*~%percent@!$£%percent$
#24 [00:16] <SinZ> ...
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#26 [00:18] <acme64> where can i get some install help for mineos?
#27 [00:19] <acme64> i've tried it several times but the install script keeps failing when it hits the php packages
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#29 [00:23] <Scott> acme64: not here.
#30 [00:23] <Scott> This is just Minecraft help.
#31 [00:23] <Scott> You should contact the maker of mineos.
#32 [00:23] <Scott> Though, I am inclined to recommend Ubuntu LTS + McMyAdmin. :P
#33 [00:23] <acme64> i think all he has a google groups site, hate that place
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#35 [00:23] <acme64> i was just starting to build a gentoo install from scratch when i stumbled across mineos
#36 [00:24] <acme64> whats mcmyadmin, a script?
#37 [00:25] <Scott> It's a control panel.
#38 [00:25] <Scott> http://mcmyadmin.com/
#39 [00:26] <Scott> It is the most used control panel with over 20,000 server using it
#40 [00:26] <acme64> its a bit popular you say
#41 [00:27] <Scott> We use it at work.
#42 [00:27] <acme64> The personal version also has a global announcement every 30 minutes saying "This server is running McMyAdmin Personal"
#43 [00:27] <acme64> srsly?
#44 [00:27] <Scott> Yes.
#45 [00:28] <acme64> well thats lame
#46 [00:28] <Scott> The professional edition isn't very much.
#47 [00:28] <Scott> It's actually 50% off until the end of the month
#48 [00:28] <Scott> Less than $8 USD and free upgrades :D
#49 [00:29] <acme64> i'll look into it
#50 [00:29] <acme64> thanks for the info
#51 [00:29] <acme64> oh, also can mixed versions connect to the same server?
#52 [00:29] <Scott> McMyAdmin doesn't modify the server.
#53 [00:30] <acme64> i mean just mc in general
#54 [00:30] <Scott> Generally no.
#55 [00:30] <acme64> and does the server version upgrade along with the client as well?
#56 [00:30] <Scott> yes
#57 [00:30] <acme64> ah
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#61 [00:51] <VoxelHead> I like them =]
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#63 [00:55] <Krassusb> Anyone know how to get rid of a cape?
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#65 [00:55] <VoxelHead> master, where did you go? I can't see you
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#68 [00:59] <bob78> how do you get mod on minecraft
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#70 [01:00] <Andrio> Google
#71 [01:00] <bob78> plese help me how do you get mod on mincrfat
#72 [01:01] <Andrio> Are you looking for a mod in particular?
#73 [01:03] <Krassusb> Anyone know how to get rid of a cape? For some reason my character suddently has one, and can't fidn any way to deal with it.
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#89 [02:09] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't con net to minecraft.net
#90 [02:10] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't con net to minecraft.net
#91 [02:11] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't conect net to minecraft.net
#92 [02:11] <lemon-rev> stp repeating your self./ have you a firewall on ?
#93 [02:11] <ripe_banana> um i don't think so?
#94 [02:12] <ripe_banana> so where can i get one
#95 [02:13] <ripe_banana> Hello?
#96 [02:13] <ripe_banana> Dude?
#97 [02:14] <ripe_banana> Where can i get a firewall?
#98 [02:14] <ripe_banana> HELLO?!?!?!?!
#99 [02:14] <Andrio> There have been a lot of other people with connection issues like this that were caused by Java's tendency to use IPv6
#100 [02:15] <ripe_banana> what?
#101 [02:15] <Andrio> I think there's a Java command line argument to force it to use IPv4, but I don't know what it is...
#102 [02:15] <ripe_banana> ok
#103 [02:15] <ripe_banana> how can i find out?
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#105 [02:16] <ripe_banana> Help me people!!!
#106 [02:17] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't conect net to minecraft.net
#107 [02:17] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't conect net to minecraft.net
#108 [02:17] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't conect net to minecraft.net
#109 [02:17] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't conect net to minecraft.net
#110 [02:17] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't conect net to minecraft.net
#111 [02:17] <ripe_banana> When i go to login it just says Canno't conect net to minecraft.net
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#113 [02:18] <VoxelHead> I like them ;)
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#117 [02:23] <lemon-rev> look for help use google
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#119 [02:24] <Dole> Are the login servers still being worked on?
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#121 [02:26] <Dole> Hey
#122 [02:26] <Dole> Do you know if the login servers are still down?
#123 [02:28] <lemon-rev> they are up
#124 [02:29] <Dole> I still cant login.
#125 [02:29] <lemon-rev> i have been able to login to the minecraft for most of the day
#126 [02:29] <lemon-rev> check your firewall google it
#127 [02:29] <Dole> Im not dumb
#128 [02:29] <Dole> Ports are open
#129 [02:29] <lemon-rev> not asking about ports,
#130 [02:29] <lemon-rev> im asking if your computer is blocking you
#131 [02:30] <Dole> And ive been unable to play minecraft for 12days
#132 [02:30] <Dole> and no
#133 [02:30] <Dole> Just checked
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#135 [02:30] <lemon-rev> ok can you get to minecraft.net ?
#136 [02:30] <Red_M> anyone know about this "failed to verify username." crap im gettin then?
#137 [02:30] <Dole> Yes, but login in there dose not work either
#138 [02:30] <VoxelHead> Red_M - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#139 [02:30] <Red_M> when trying to -- ...
#140 [02:31] <lemon-rev> login doesnt work, so you get to the site but your login fails correct have you migrated your account ?
#141 [02:31] <Red_M> guys i can login but not connect to servers
#142 [02:31] <lemon-rev> red_m could be where your getting your server info could be wrong
#143 [02:31] <Dole> Ive migrated my account, and it fails to verify username
#144 [02:31] <Red_M> and yes i have migrated account
#145 [02:32] <lemon-rev> dole thats because you now have to use your email account and not your username
#146 [02:32] <Red_M> lemon-rev: i can get ma server info via query in the client fine
#147 [02:32] <Dole> I did not
#148 [02:32] <Red_M> just not connect
#149 [02:32] <Dole> I can login, but can verify username on server
#150 [02:32] <lemon-rev> dole try your email as your username and your normal password
#151 [02:32] <lemon-rev> server is soemthing different
#152 [02:32] <lemon-rev> if the game works then thats good
#153 [02:33] <lemon-rev> red_m whos server are you trying to connect to
#154 [02:33] <Dole> Servers fine, I was on a friends account.
#155 [02:33] <Red_M> lemon-rev: im using my email to login and i cannot connect to any server
#156 [02:33] <Red_M> even my own
#157 [02:33] <Dole> And that works, but I cant connect to any server.
#158 [02:33] <Red_M> without online mode off
#159 [02:33] <lemon-rev> red_m the game works correcrt though
#160 [02:33] <Red_M> lemon-rev: yesh
#161 [02:33] <lemon-rev> dole where are you getting your server info
#162 [02:33] <Dole> By the way thank you for lemon
#163 [02:33] <Dole> Where am I getting my server info?
#164 [02:33] <Red_M> i can connect just not with online mode set to true
#165 [02:34] <lemon-rev> yes dole you say your trying to connect to a server what server and where did you get it
#166 [02:34] <Dole> My server that ive played on for along time.
#167 [02:35] <lemon-rev> dole is the server uptodate ?
#168 [02:35] <Dole> Its all servers, and yes.
#169 [02:35] <lemon-rev> dole is the server / client the same
#170 [02:35] <Dole> Yes.
#171 [02:35] <lemon-rev> then the server should beable to see you unless you have somethign like a file say whitelist that could be blocking you or something
#172 [02:36] <Red_M> lemon-rev: my server and client have worked without online mode being set to false before but now it wont let me connect with online mode set to true
#173 [02:36] <lemon-rev> where is that info ?
#174 [02:36] <Red_M> lemon-rev: i run the server...
#175 [02:37] <lemon-rev> red_m i ment the file with false online mode or not
#176 [02:37] <Red_M> server.properties
#177 [02:37] <lemon-rev> see if you can take that line out and see if anything happens differently
#178 [02:38] <Red_M> lemon-rev: online mode does the username and password checking and if set to true checks usernames and passwords and if its false it doesnt....
#179 [02:38] <lemon-rev> red_m you said your account was migrated i forget did you say you where useing your email addy to log in ?
#180 [02:38] <Red_M> yesh
#181 [02:39] <Red_M> using email
#182 [02:39] <Red_M> cant use username anymore
#183 [02:39] <lemon-rev> red_m if you connect to minecraft standalone with out your online server for your own network can you still connect to it
#184 [02:39] <Red_M> what?
#185 [02:40] <Red_M> the server is on one of my VPS boxes
#186 [02:40] <Red_M> i run it
#187 [02:40] <Red_M> i manage it
#188 [02:40] <Red_M> my client is on my local machine
#189 [02:40] <Red_M> not on the server
#190 [02:41] <lemon-rev> hm
#191 [02:42] <lemon-rev> well i might not be the one to talk to then
#192 [02:42] <Red_M> any server i try to connect to that has online-mode set to true returns "failed to verify username"
#193 [02:42] <VoxelHead> Red_M - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#194 [02:42] <Red_M> VoxelHead: stfu
#195 [02:42] <Red_M> .help
#196 [02:42] <Red_M> hmmmm
#197 [02:42] <lemon-rev> then its to do with the server file that is being set up
#198 [02:42] <lemon-rev> other from that i cant help
#199 [02:43] <lemon-rev> vox is a robot
#200 [02:43] <Red_M> lemon-rev: its auth
#201 [02:43] <lemon-rev> as i said i prob not the one to talk to on this
#202 [02:43] <Red_M> not anything to do with server settings or client settings
#203 [02:43] <lemon-rev> then i dont know
#204 [02:44] <Red_M> mollstam: sorry for the highlight but do you know anything with these errors of "failed to verify username." with trying to connect to servers?
#205 [02:44] <VoxelHead> Red_M - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#206 [02:45] <Red_M> ah
#207 [02:45] <Red_M> he is afk
#208 [02:45] <skyboy> that's a bot
#209 [02:48] <Red_M> sigh
#210 [02:48] <skyboy> you can't play multiplayer until mojang gets the servers back up. you'll just have to live with that.
#211 [02:49] <Red_M> i know
#212 [02:49] <Red_M> its been like a week thou
#213 [02:49] <Red_M> but i also see players on servers...
#214 [02:49] <skyboy> connected before the auth servers went offline
#215 [02:49] <Red_M> but for a week
#216 [02:49] <Necrodoom> Red_M: PM me serverIP
#217 [02:50] <skyboy> your week-long issue is something else, that can't be resolved while the servers are down
#218 [02:50] <Red_M> not my server but i see players on it but i cant connect
#219 [02:51] <Necrodoom> connected
#220 [02:51] <Red_M> defaq
#221 [02:51] <Necrodoom> said "logging in" for a long time
#222 [02:51] <Necrodoom> but worked
#223 [02:51] <Red_M> sigh
#224 [02:51] <Necrodoom> auth servers being slow, but they are still up
#225 [02:51] <Red_M> anyone know what the ip of the auth servers are?
#226 [02:51] <Red_M> ill do a few network tests
#227 [02:51] <skyboy> are you using an illegitimate client, mods?
#228 [02:52] <Red_M> no
#229 [02:52] <Red_M> nothing that didnt work before
#230 [02:52] <Red_M> and i didnt add anything new
#231 [02:52] <Red_M> wait
#232 [02:52] <skyboy> nuke minecraft's bin dir and relaunch, then try again
#233 [02:53] <Red_M> i was on a different computer but these computer are a COMPLETE copy of each other as far as minecraft goes
#234 [02:53] <skyboy> ??> Red_M win/reinst
#235 [02:53] <VoxelHead> Red_M: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#236 [02:53] <VoxelHead> Red_M: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#237 [02:53] <Red_M> i know
#238 [02:54] <Red_M> im not stupid
#239 [02:55] <Red_M> ugh update servers are slow...
#240 [02:57] <Red_M> nope
#241 [02:57] <Red_M> still fails
#242 [02:59] <skyboy> !login
#243 [03:00] <Red_M> ?+login
#244 [03:00] <Red_M> !+login
#245 [03:00] <Red_M> !help
#246 [03:00] <Red_M> ah
#247 [03:00] <Red_M> !paid Red_M
#248 [03:00] <Red_M> yes that me
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#250 [03:01] <Red_M> !check gir4.red-m.x10.mx
#251 [03:01] <Red_M> good
#252 [03:01] <VoxelHead> goooooooood
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#254 [03:03] <skyboy> it doesn't sound like an ipv6 issue, but you may as well check
#255 [03:03] <Red_M> i dont have ipv6 enabled for my router
#256 [03:04] <skyboy> ?? java/ipv6
#257 [03:04] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#258 [03:04] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#259 [03:04] <skyboy> it'd be your computer that'd cause the problem, not your router
#260 [03:04] <Red_M> no
#261 [03:05] <Red_M> i dont have an ipv6 address nor do i have the ability to USE ipv6 on my router
#262 [03:05] <skyboy> which means nothing for a loopback connection
#263 [03:05] <Red_M> needs firmware update that isnt released yet
#264 [03:05] <Red_M> sigh
#265 [03:05] <Red_M> it ISNT a local server
#266 [03:05] <Red_M> i cant connect to ANY SERVER
#267 [03:05] <Red_M> that has online mode enabled
#268 [03:05] <skyboy> not even local? just for shits and giggles
#269 [03:06] <Red_M> cant be bothered with local
#270 [03:06] <Red_M> but yesh local is fine and so is across my internal network
#271 [03:06] <Red_M> just not ANYTHING with the username checking on
#272 [03:07] <skyboy> is your client sending the correct information?
#273 [03:07] <Red_M> yesh
#274 [03:07] <skyboy> is the router modifying the data?
#275 [03:07] <Red_M> no
#276 [03:07] <Red_M> it doesnt touch my packets
#277 [03:07] <Red_M> at all
#278 [03:09] <skyboy> try it on another computer
#279 [03:09] <Red_M> ill have to go get it...
#280 [03:09] <skyboy> preferably one outside your current local net
#281 [03:09] <skyboy> if it works, try it inside your local net
#282 [03:10] <skyboy> if it still works, beat your current computer with a brick and set it on fire with thermite
#283 [03:10] <skyboy> if it does not work inside your local net, do the above to your modem
#284 [03:10] <skyboy> if it doesn't work outside, it's an issue with your account and you should contact mojang
#285 [03:11] <Red_M> i only have the one network...
#286 [03:11] <skyboy> plug in directly, between the router and modem
#287 [03:11] <Red_M> its all in one
#288 [03:11] <skyboy> connect to an unsecured wireless network
#289 [03:11] <Red_M> and my VPSes are ssh only
#290 [03:11] <VoxelHead> networkless wire
#291 [03:11] <Red_M> dont have any near by
#292 [03:12] <skyboy> *shrug* you can still manage half the test
#293 [03:12] <skyboy> it can possibly rule out one of the two issues
#294 [03:12] <Red_M> oh wait
#295 [03:13] <Red_M> i was able to test out side of my net but it also didnt work then ether
#296 [03:13] <Red_M> and my connection to my server that has online mode off works
#297 [03:17] <Red_M> OW i forgot that this one burns holes in my legs... damn thing gets too hot
#298 [03:17] <Red_M> yeap my other one also cant because failed to verify username
#299 [03:17] <VoxelHead> Red_M - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#300 [03:19] <skyboy> hm.
#301 [03:19] <skyboy> !server
#302 [03:19] <skyboy> that was useless
#303 [03:19] <Red_M> ...
#304 [03:19] <skyboy> oh well
#305 [03:19] <skyboy> !login
#306 [03:19] <skyboy> bots, fight it out. determine who is correct.
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#308 [03:34] <Red_M> hmm i cannot ping login.minecraft.net
#309 [03:35] <Red_M> from ether of my VPSes... one in france and one in USA
#310 [03:35] <Andrio> I can't ping it either.
#311 [03:35] <Red_M> or from here
#312 [03:35] <skyboy> aubot is inaccurate then
#313 [03:35] <Red_M> wait a sec
#314 [03:36] <skyboy> actually, i can't even get a DNS lookup
#315 [03:36] <skyboy> oh, derp. not .com
#316 [03:36] <Red_M> i get auth-1948379932.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com as DNS
#317 [03:36] <Red_M> or
#318 [03:36] <Red_M> 107.20.144.31
#319 [03:37] <Red_M> as ip
#320 [03:37] <skyboy> yeah, amazon's cloud services power minecraft's servers
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#322 [03:37] <Red_M> hang on
#323 [03:37] <skyboy> cheap and good for handling the massive number of requests handled per second
#324 [03:37] <Red_M> doing tracert
#325 [03:37] <Red_M> i get out to the USA
#326 [03:38] <Red_M> and then ...
#327 [03:38] <skyboy> i'm not getting 107.20.144.31
#328 [03:38] <Red_M> currently on 14 hops
#329 [03:38] <Red_M> time out
#330 [03:38] <Red_M> hmmm
#331 [03:38] <Red_M> times out at 216.182.224.53
#332 [03:38] <Red_M> wait ill get my vpses
#333 [03:39] <Red_M> vps in france fails at hop 10
#334 [03:40] <skyboy> 216.182.224.\8 seems to be amazon's routers
#335 [03:40] <skyboy> hop 12 here
#336 [03:40] <Red_M> vps in Chicago fails at hop 13 then times out
#337 [03:41] <Red_M> hmm i get 72.21.220.* as amazon's routers
#338 [03:41] <skyboy> not that the number of hops actually tells you anything
#339 [03:41] <Red_M> it does in a way
#340 [03:41] <skyboy> it tells you how you're accessing it through the mangled mess that is the internet
#341 [03:41] <Red_M> it means that there are 13 devices before the actual services is there
#342 [03:42] <Red_M> oh well
#343 [03:42] <Red_M> i gtg
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#346 [03:44] <Valbuen> Hey there! Are you guys familiar with this company called Newsilver games?
#347 [03:46] <skyboy> don't advertise
#348 [03:47] <Valbuen> Oh I definitely don't want to. I want to inform mojang that on the app store for iOS, this company are using images of minecraft to advertise their apps for a dollar or 2 and the once bought, they get scammed with something dumb
#349 [03:48] <skyboy> we have something prepared for that
#350 [03:48] <skyboy> ?? scam
#351 [03:48] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#352 [03:48] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
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#354 [03:50] <Valbuen> I know I understand that. I just wanted to see if you have been aware of this incident going on.
#355 [03:51] <skyboy> we're not mojang, so we can't do anything about it anyway
#356 [03:53] <Necrodoom> only way it to send a ticket to mojang
#357 [03:53] <Necrodoom> or email them
#358 [03:53] <Valbuen> Is there am email address to send? I couldn't find any
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#360 [04:01] <zazzy> Why does it say i cant purchase the game intill 24 hours
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#364 [04:24] <twitchinglemon> just bought minecraft and trying to update it but it keeps failing. My java is up to date, what can I do?
#365 [04:30] <lemon-rev> twitchinglemon yo,
#366 [04:30] <lemon-rev> twitchinglemon what do you see when it trys to run the game
#367 [04:31] <twitchinglemon> I need to update it so it asks if I want to update I hit "yes" it looks like it is going to install but it freezes around 5-8% then says "Failed to launch" Fatal error occured (4): connection reset
#368 [04:31] <lemon-rev> ok, what antivirus have you got running ?
#369 [04:32] <twitchinglemon> AVG i
#370 [04:32] <twitchinglemon> AVG* minus i
#371 [04:32] <lemon-rev> thats whats causeing it,
#372 [04:32] <lemon-rev> ok
#373 [04:33] <lemon-rev> you need to disable avg and then try to do the update
#374 [04:33] <twitchinglemon> ok let me see if it works :)
#375 [04:33] <lemon-rev> its seeing a file of minecraft that it thinks is a bug
#376 [04:37] <twitchinglemon> still no luck :( it seems to be freezing at 3% :/
#377 [04:38] <twitchinglemon> I disabled the firewall that AVG had and used Program manager to end all AVG related programs
#378 [04:38] <twitchinglemon> And I have no other firewalls on that I can see
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#381 [04:50] <twitchinglemon> oh and if I hit "Not now" when it asks me if I want to update it the screen just goes black
#382 [04:51] <twitchinglemon> dunno if that means anything or not -_-
#383 [04:54] <Calinou> twitchinglemon, are you using AVG? if so disable the "link scanner" module
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#391 [06:50] <blackswan> hi. i want to install the aether mod, but it needs an old version of minecraft. is it possible to get old versions?
#392 [06:52] <Andrio> Yeah, there are patching programs that can downgrade it.
#393 [06:52] <Andrio> Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbxhhW96lHw
#394 [06:55] <blackswan> what else is out there besides mcnostalgia? are there tools to manage multiple installed minecraft versions? (or is that something mcnostalgia can do?)
#395 [06:56] <Andrio> I used to just copy stuff in and out of my appdata with Explorer.
#396 [06:56] <Andrio> But if you don't happen to still have the old version, you can't really do that.
#397 [06:57] <blackswan> i need something my 10-year-old can manage without difficulty.
#398 [06:58] <blackswan> i could write shell scripts to move stuff around, but i would prefer not to have to go to the trouble
#399 [06:59] <blackswan> <-- lazy father
#400 [06:59] <Andrio> I had a shell script.
#401 [07:00] <Andrio> It was basically 'xcopy the files into appdata > start minecraft > pause > xcopy the files back'
#402 [07:01] <Andrio> It worked very well.
#403 [07:01] <blackswan> i would like something pointy-clicky
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#405 [07:06] <Andrio> Well, the main reason a batch script worked very well for me, is that all I have to do is double-click on start.bat
#406 [07:06] <Andrio> well, that's kind of the point of a batch script
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#409 [07:17] <OswaltDD> Is there someone who could facilitate me buying a minecraft code for my friend?
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#411 [07:26] <bozo97> heyllo is there a mod that let syou instantly build a building
#412 [07:27] <bozo97> is there a mod that lets you instantly build a building
#413 [07:29] <lemon-rev> theres mods that allow you to build a tent, but we wont tell you where to get it
#414 [07:29] <lemon-rev> theres mods that allow you to build a tent, but we wont tell you where to get it
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#418 [07:35] <tcial> How much ram (per player) does a vanilla Minecraft server need?
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#420 [07:50] <bozo97> what good moda are there
#421 [07:59] <Calinou> ?? mods
#422 [07:59] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#423 [07:59] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#425 [08:17] <krebbit> Hey guys, i keep getting the running out of memory message and i was wandering how do i get rid of it?
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#427 [08:18] <tcial> Get more memory??
#428 [08:18] <tcial> #minecrafthelp would be the best place
#429 [08:18] <tcial> What is your spec
#430 [08:18] <krebbit> spec?
#431 [08:19] <tcial> Specifications
#432 [08:19] <tcial> Computer spec
#433 [08:19] <tcial> RAM, CPU, GPU
#434 [08:19] <krebbit> Oh, i dont know
#435 [08:19] <tcial> Windows
#436 [08:19] <tcial> ?
#437 [08:19] <krebbit> yeah
#438 [08:19] <tcial> Click start
#439 [08:19] <tcial> Right click My Computer
#440 [08:19] <tcial> it should show spec
#441 [08:19] <tcial> Something like 1GB of RAM, i5 ETC
#442 [08:20] <krebbit> No, it doesnt show it
#443 [08:20] <tcial> XP or Win7?
#444 [08:20] <krebbit> 7 i think
#445 [08:20] <tcial> Sorry, it's right click my computer, then click properties
#446 [08:21] <tcial> There should be a heading saying 'System'
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#448 [08:21] <krebbit> RAM 2.00GB
#449 [08:21] <tcial> Processor
#450 [08:21] <krebbit> intel core
#451 [08:21] <tcial> Have you tried turning down your graphics settings in Minecraft?
#452 [08:22] <krebbit> To fast?
#453 [08:22] <tcial> Yeah
#454 [08:22] <tcial> And smooth lighting off
#455 [08:22] <tcial> Then hit SHIFT+F3 in-game, and tell us your FPS
#456 [08:23] <krebbit> It says in red i should have 64bit java instaleld and i only have 32 bit, culd this be it?
#457 [08:23] <krebbit> oin options
#458 [08:23] <tcial> Turn down your render distance to normal
#459 [08:23] <Boreeas> ??> krebbit win/dxdiag
#460 [08:23] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#461 [08:23] <VoxelHead> krebbit: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#462 [08:23] <tcial> That is what is causing it
#463 [08:23] <tcial> Boreeas: He only has 2GB of RAM on the highest MC settings
#464 [08:24] <tcial> krebbit: What are your settings now?
#465 [08:24] <krebbit> graphics fast, smooth lighting off render distance normal
#466 [08:24] <Boreeas> Could also be the video card
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#468 [08:25] <tcial> Try that
#469 [08:25] <tcial> Boreeas: That's why I'm getting him to turn down his settings
#470 [08:26] <krebbit> 1 sec, internet says its gonna go
#471 [08:26] <M0nk3y188> i have just bought minecraft downloaded it ran it it loads and towards the end of the loading screen (which is very quick) it turns black
#472 [08:26] <krebbit> nvm its back
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#476 [08:27] <M0nk3y188> so can anybody help
#477 [08:27] <krebbit> ITss been alright so far, another thing is tere a way to get all multiplayer servers I.Ps or adresses to come up on the screen withme going to direct connect typing the thing in?
#478 [08:28] <tcial> Add Server should do that
#479 [08:28] <krebbit> Ah, i thought that was to make your own server
#480 [08:29] <tcial> nope
#481 [08:29] <krebbit> And if iw ant to amke my own server, i just have to download that thing on the website then what?
#482 [08:31] <tcial> Double click it
#483 [08:31] <tcial> Download minecraft-server.exe
#484 [08:31] <tcial> run it
#485 [08:31] <tcial> portforward (google it)
#486 [08:31] <krebbit> That it? i havent done it yet, jsut for when my friend gets minecraft
#487 [08:31] <tcial> Ah
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#489 [08:32] <tcial> You need good internet
#490 [08:32] <krebbit> As in, my internet doesnt keep going off ad on?
#491 [08:32] <tcial> As in, fast internet
#492 [08:33] <krebbit> Well i have fast internet
#493 [08:35] <tcial> Speedtest?
#494 [08:35] <tcial> What do you get?
#495 [08:35] <krebbit> Dam, its jsut came up with that i dont have any memory with the setting you told me to do
#496 [08:36] <tcial> hmm
#497 [08:36] <tcial> go into MC
#498 [08:36] <tcial> Load a map
#499 [08:36] <tcial> hit shift and f3
#500 [08:36] <tcial> tell me everything it says in the top right
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#503 [08:37] <krebbit> Used memory: 8%, (106MB) of 989MB
#504 [08:38] <tcial> Keep that open and do stuff
#505 [08:38] <krebbit> the 8% and 106mb keep on raising
#506 [08:38] <tcial> Keep an eye on it until Minecraft crashes
#507 [08:38] <krebbit> k
#508 [08:38] <tcial> Tell me the numbers before it crashes
#509 [08:38] <krebbit> or MB or both?
#510 [08:38] <krebbit> % or*
#511 [08:38] <tcial> the MB
#512 [08:41] <tcial> tcial - The cake is a lie
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#516 [08:50] <OswaltDD> Is this the right place to ask questions about purchasing minecraft?
#517 [08:50] <tcial> Yes you are
#518 [08:51] <tcial> What's the problem?
#519 [08:51] <OswaltDD> Alright, so yesterday my friend tried to buy minecraft, but due to some BS a few months back his paypal was frozen
#520 [08:51] <OswaltDD> So, me and my roomate each tried to buy a gift pass thru paypal, and it kept denying it
#521 [08:52] <Necrodoom> you cant buy a gift pass using paypal last time i checked
#522 [08:52] <OswaltDD> SO THEN my friend tries using his AMEX card through that Skrill thing (Which the website links too) and it doesn't have an option for AMEX
#523 [08:52] <tcial> Can't you buy a pre-paid credit card, one with like $25 on it?
#524 [08:53] <OswaltDD> AND THEN I tried just using guest checkout to buy it, from his minecraft account, using guest checkout
#525 [08:53] <OswaltDD> I don't think that'd work
#526 [08:54] <OswaltDD> We tried basically tried 3 visa cards and an AMEX
#527 [08:54] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#528 [08:54] <OswaltDD> Why can't we buy him a gift pass through paypal
#529 [08:55] <Rikairchy> they only take moneybookers
#530 [08:55] <Rikairchy> iirc
#531 [08:55] <tcial> You can use prepaid cards, I'm sure
#532 [08:55] <Rikairchy> through moneybookers, yes
#533 [08:55] <Rikairchy> thats how i had to buy mine
#534 [08:55] <OswaltDD> So why won't moneybookers work with AMEX
#535 [08:55] <Rikairchy> they might not have an agreement with Amex
#536 [08:55] <OswaltDD> There is an option for AMEX. It links to a site that doesn't use AMEX.
#537 [08:56] <OswaltDD> No no no, Minecraft.net has an option for it, says it's accepted.
#538 [08:56] <OswaltDD> Links to a site that doesn't accept it.
#539 [08:57] <OswaltDD> Not only that, buying a pre-paid credit card also carries an activation fee.
#540 [08:57] <Rikairchy> since when?
#541 [08:57] <Rikairchy> go to walmart, buy a prepaid visa, pay $3, and load it with however much you want
#542 [08:57] <OswaltDD> That's an activation fee.
#543 [08:58] <Rikairchy> do you want minecraft or not?
#544 [08:58] <OswaltDD> Are you some sort of offical minecraft support rep?
#545 [08:58] <Rikairchy> no one here is
#546 [08:59] <OswaltDD> Where might I find someone like that.
#547 [08:59] <Rikairchy> I'm just a cranky person that has woken up with a headache
#548 [08:59] <Rikairchy> not here
#549 [08:59] <Rikairchy> i supposed you could email them
#550 [08:59] <Rikairchy> but I've heard its about 2 months for a reply
#551 [08:59] <Rikairchy> if you get one
#552 [08:59] <OswaltDD> F'in super.
#553 [08:59] <Necrodoom> thats mojang for ya, i guess
#554 [08:59] <Rikairchy> I'd go buy that prepaid card
#555 [09:00] <Rikairchy> pay the extra $3
#556 [09:00] <Rikairchy> and use it
#557 [09:00] <Rikairchy> but thats just me
#558 [09:00] <Rikairchy> I had to do that when minecraft was only $15
#559 [09:00] <OswaltDD> Yeah yeah, so did I
#560 [09:01] <OswaltDD> And guess what, every card we used got denied by whatever company does the payment for gift passes
#561 [09:03] <tcial> Is there a php channel?
#562 [09:04] <Rikairchy> for this net?
#563 [09:05] <Boreeas> OswaltDD: Try http://help.mojang.com
#564 [09:06] * OswaltDD sighs.
#564 [09:06] <OswaltDD> I guess that's the price of liking indie games.
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#566 [09:07] <Rikairchy> whats this new thing on mojang.com?
#567 [09:08] <Rikairchy> it asks you a question if you're using a new computer
#568 [09:08] <Rikairchy> which I'm not
#569 [09:08] <Rikairchy> and I've never set the answers to these questions
#570 [09:14] <Rikairchy> anyone know if theres away around the challenge questions?
#571 [09:14] <Rikairchy> I never set them >.>
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#574 [09:28] <pikacuh123> how do you stop griefis?
#575 [09:29] <Boreeas> You mean creepers?
#576 [09:29] <Boreeas> Big green monsters that sneak up on you and explode?
#577 [09:30] <pikacuh123> no, they enter you're home and destroy and steal things
#578 [09:30] <Rikairchy> griefers
#579 [09:30] <Boreeas> Oh, griefers.
#580 [09:30] <Rikairchy> you ban them from the server
#581 [09:30] <pikacuh123> yes
#582 [09:31] <Rikairchy> are you a mod/admin?
#583 [09:31] <pikacuh123> how do we do that?
#584 [09:31] <Boreeas> pikacuh123: Either you ban them, or you install protection plugins. For the latter, see #bukkit
#585 [09:31] <Rikairchy> use /ban <their name>
#586 [09:31] <pikacuh123> we tried and it didn't work
#587 [09:31] <Rikairchy> theres more than one....
#588 [09:32] <pikacuh123> yes
#589 [09:32] <Rikairchy> so keep banning them
#590 [09:33] <pikacuh123> ok. Thank you for you're help
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#592 [09:44] <krebbit> tciel?
#593 [09:44] <krebbit> nvm
#594 [09:45] <Rikairchy> 0.0
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#597 [09:47] <xSpiiraLv> Hi :)
#598 [09:47] <noiro_> I am having trouble opening Minecraft in on a Windows 7 Virtual machine running Java 6. After login, the screen goes black but I can press buttons though I can't see them.
#599 [09:48] <Calinou> noiro_, what is the host operating system?
#600 [09:48] <Calinou> also: why do you run games in a VM?
#601 [09:48] <xSpiiraLv> My xbox keeps freezing when i go onto my world, can you help me?
#602 [09:48] <noiro_> Calinou: Ubuntu 64bit
#603 [09:48] <Rikairchy> noiro_ is the guest OS running in 32 or 64 bit?
#604 [09:48] <Calinou> MC runs fine from ubuntu
#605 [09:48] <noiro_> Rikairchy: 32bit
#606 [09:48] <Calinou> xSpiiraLv, we can't really help with xbox... try starting a new world
#607 [09:49] <Calinou> due to xbox being so locked
#608 [09:49] <Rikairchy> what virtual machine software are you using?
#609 [09:49] <Calinou> MC can run on XP/vista/7, mac os x, and any linux distro, and probably BSD (haven't tried)
#610 [09:49] <noiro_> Virtualbox
#611 [09:49] <Rikairchy> ah
#612 [09:49] <Rikairchy> i never got it to work in VB
#613 [09:49] <Calinou> I doubt it even works in a VM though
#614 [09:49] <xSpiiraLv> But my world has A LOT of amazing stuff built on it :/
#615 [09:49] <Rikairchy> had to use VMWare Workstation
#616 [09:49] <Rikairchy> it does work
#617 [09:49] * Calinou has debian testing in a VM, host OS being win7
#617 [09:50] <noiro_> I can't figure why it wouldn't work since MC doesn't use that many resources.
#618 [09:50] <Rikairchy> xSpiiraLv: you mean it worked at one point?
#619 [09:50] <Andrio> Minecraft doesn't work properly in a VM, from my experience.
#620 [09:50] <noiro_> I have seen people run Crysis in a VM
#621 [09:50] <Rikairchy> it does too work in a VM
#622 [09:50] <xSpiiraLv> Yes, it only just started freezing today :/
#623 [09:50] <Andrio> The mouse doesn't get reset, so it controls like a bad flight sim.
#624 [09:50] <Calinou> running games in a VM is a no-no usually... just run it natively, you can
#625 [09:50] <Calinou> mouse capture is always a bitch in VMs
#626 [09:50] <Rikairchy> ....
#627 [09:50] <noiro_> Calinou: Minecraft freaks out on my host machine. I've told Rikairchy this before
#628 [09:51] <Andrio> Terraria in a VM works well though. Still better without the VM, but it does work.
#629 [09:51] <Calinou> > if you're using openjdk, try using sun's java.
#630 [09:51] <Rikairchy> <+Calinou> running games in a VM is a no-no usually... | yet it will work with some hacks
#631 [09:51] <Calinou> (installing it is quite involved, it's not in repos)
#632 [09:51] <Rikairchy> noiro_:
#633 [09:51] <Calinou> Rikairchy, like... minetest runs (20-40FPS, awesome for nouveau) in my VM but mouse input is buggy ;)
#634 [09:51] <Rikairchy> have you done the normal steps when taking care of an OS to the virtualOS?
#635 [09:51] <noiro_> Calinou, do i just compile the tarball?
#636 [09:51] <Calinou> no?
#637 [09:52] <Rikairchy> noiro_: you can do that
#638 [09:52] <Rikairchy> i prefer openJDK however
#639 [09:52] <Calinou> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html < Linux x64 (the one without "rpm" in the name)
#640 [09:52] <Calinou> openjdk > bugs, less performance
#641 [09:52] <xSpiiraLv> It's only that world that freezes, don't know why it won't work, my other worlds work
#642 [09:53] <Rikairchy> you're saying openJDK is inferior to Sun's java?
#643 [09:53] <Calinou> run it using a terminal > put the folder anywhere (in ~/, /opt... any place) > use "update-alternatives" command
#644 [09:53] <Calinou> Rikairchy, yes, in performance. I have 20 more FPS in sun java than openjdk
#645 [09:53] <Rikairchy> hah.
#646 [09:53] <Calinou> and it can cause bugs on certain computers
#647 [09:53] <Rikairchy> you're saying the fully opensource is worse than the closed source.
#648 [09:54] <AG_Clinton> Openjdk runs better for us than sun java does.
#649 [09:54] <Calinou> Rikairchy, see the drivers
#650 [09:55] <krebbit> Rikairchy, can you help me with a problem me and Tciel was helping me but he left?
#651 [09:55] <Rikairchy> possibly, krebbit
#652 [09:55] <noiro_> Calinou, how involved is the java installation? I just sh'd the bin file.
#653 [09:55] <Calinou> nouveau: perfectible 3D acceleration, only opengl2.1
#654 [09:55] <Calinou> proprietary: good 3D acceleration, opengl 3.3/4.2
#655 [09:56] <Calinou> proprietary can be better, Rikairchy. I'm not a FOSS zealot.
#656 [09:56] <krebbit> Well, i've had mc keep saying i've ran out of memory, i have RAM 2.00GB and intel core. He told me to but my graphics to fat, smooth lighting to off and render distance to normal
#657 [09:56] <Calinou> noiro_, yes, it's self-extracting; now put the folder anywhere (I put it in /opt personally)
#658 [09:56] <Calinou> then use the "update-alternatives" (see "man update-alternatives")
#659 [09:56] <krebbit> Its still hapepning but less. He told me to press sift and f3 and tell him everything in the right hand corner
#660 [09:56] <xSpiiraLv> It's only that world that freezes, don't know why it won't work, my other worlds work
#661 [09:56] <krebbit> Used memory: 8%, (106MB) of 989MB
#662 [09:57] <Rikairchy> what version of openJDK are you seeing that off of?
#663 [09:57] <noiro_> I don't see it. e.o
#664 [09:57] <krebbit> he then told me to keep an eye o the MB and tellhim what it was before i crashed
#665 [09:57] <krebbit> IT was 235MB, what do i do now?
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#667 [09:58] <Calinou> Rikairchy, tried in ubuntu 11.10... the one from the repos
#668 [09:58] <Calinou> krebbit, 2GB of RAM should be fine. are you using any mods or texture packs?
#669 [09:58] <Rikairchy> thats prolly 5
#670 [09:58] <Rikairchy> or maybe 6
#671 [09:59] <Calinou> 6
#672 [09:59] <Rikairchy> you're a bit behind
#673 [09:59] <Rikairchy> get 7
#674 [09:59] <Calinou> (I still use java 6)
#675 [09:59] <Calinou> java 7 is unstable; it doesn't deserve to be marked as "released"
#676 [09:59] <Necrodoom> only when minecraft is around
#677 [09:59] <Necrodoom> tbh
#678 [09:59] <xSpiiraLv> anyone help me?
#679 [09:59] <noiro_> Calinou, I can't find the archive it created. e.o
#680 [09:59] <Rikairchy> when does it become unstable then?
#681 [10:00] <Calinou> noiro_, should be where you extracted it... in your downloads folder
#682 [10:00] <Calinou> also: it requires executable permissions to be extracted, of course
#683 [10:00] <noiro_> it extracted to hom
#684 [10:03] <noiro_> Calinou, moved to opt, now what?
#685 [10:03] <krebbit> Calinou, no i am now
#686 [10:03] <krebbit> not*
#687 [10:04] <Calinou> noiro_, use the update-alternatives command
#688 [10:04] <Calinou> (see man update-alternatives)
#689 [10:04] <Calinou> forgot how to use it :P
#690 [10:04] <krebbit> Anyother ideas on why it keeps saying i have no memory?
#691 [10:05] <noiro_> it gave me a big list of things that should come after it
#692 [10:05] <Calinou> you could try this krebbit: http://pastebin.com/kMuYdYtt
#693 [10:05] <Calinou> (allocating LESS ram actually, yes, but it can fix crashes)
#694 [10:05] <Calinou> but first, krebbit, you should install 64 bit java:
#695 [10:06] <Calinou> you need to check whether you're on a 64 bit OS: press Windows+E, then right click an empty space in that "folder", then click "properties", then see
#696 [10:06] <Calinou> if it is: download java (for Windows x64) from here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#697 [10:06] <Calinou> > remove any other versions of java first then install it.
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#699 [10:08] <krebbit> im on 32bit OS
#700 [10:09] <krebbit> So what do i need to do on 32bit OS?
#701 [10:09] <noiro_> Calinou: Do I use update-alternatives --force ?
#702 [10:10] <Calinou> no, probably not force
#703 [10:10] <Calinou> krebbit, stick to normal render distance then try this: http://pastebin.com/kMuYdYtt
#704 [10:10] <noiro_> Calinou: Do I use update-alternatives --altdir /opt ?
#705 [10:10] <krebbit> What does this do?
#706 [10:10] <Calinou> noiro_, lemme see, one sec
#707 [10:11] <Calinou> krebbit, this will allocate less memory; but it can fix crashes
#708 [10:12] <Calinou> noiro_, or, you could use a PPA to install sun's java...
#709 [10:12] <Calinou> simpler way
#710 [10:13] <noiro_> That may be it. :P Which one do I use?
#711 [10:16] <Calinou> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ferramroberto/java > should work (looked at MC wiki)
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#713 [10:18] <Lazordude900> hello
#714 [10:19] <Lazordude900> my minecraft has lost its software and got corrupted
#715 [10:19] <Lazordude900> now i cant play minecraft on the launcher because it says login failed
#716 [10:19] <Calinou> huh?
#717 [10:20] <Lazordude900> can anyone help me
#718 [10:20] <Calinou> yes. try using this launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#719 [10:20] <Calinou> put it on the desktop, double click and log in.
#720 [10:20] <Lazordude900> yes
#721 [10:20] <Calinou> important: if you migrated your account, use your e-mail address to log in, not your user name.
#722 [10:20] <noiro_> Calinou, when running it, I still get the black box of doom
#723 [10:20] <Lazordude900> but my software
#724 [10:20] <Calinou> also if you are using AVG: disable the link scanner module
#725 [10:20] <noiro_> Was I supposed to install Java 6 instead?
#726 [10:20] <Lazordude900> i deleted .minecraft by accident
#727 [10:20] <Calinou> "has lost its software", what do you mean?
#728 [10:21] <Calinou> Lazordude900, by accident? congrats, you've lost your texture packs, server list and singleplayer worlds
#729 [10:21] <Calinou> just log in and it will redownload files
#730 [10:21] <Lazordude900> si know
#731 [10:21] <Lazordude900> ok
#732 [10:21] <Lazordude900> i did
#733 [10:22] <Lazordude900> it said login failed
#734 [10:22] <Lazordude900> and not downkoaded
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#736 [10:22] <Lazordude900> Calinou?
#737 [10:22] <Lazordude900> hello
#738 [10:23] <Lazordude900> hello
#739 [10:23] <Lazordude900> Calinou
#740 [10:23] <Lazordude900> u there
#741 [10:23] <Calinou> don't use enter as punctuation
#742 [10:23] <Lazordude900> huh
#743 [10:23] <Lazordude900> enter
#744 [10:23] <Lazordude900> please
#745 [10:23] <Calinou> Lazordude900, try checking your firewall? temporarily disable it
#746 [10:24] <Lazordude900> firewall?
#747 [10:24] <noiro_> Calinou:Was I supposed to install Java 6 instead?
#748 [10:24] <Lazordude900> im only 9
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#750 [10:24] <Calinou> noiro_, yes, normally; also, what graphics card, and are you using proprietary drivers?
#751 [10:24] <Calinou> try running MC in command line
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#753 [10:24] <Calinou> using java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar
#754 [10:24] <noiro_> Calinou, the Nvidia GTS 450, and I am using proprietary drivers.
#755 [10:25] <Calinou> Lazordude900, go in the control panel, then find the firewall settings. disable it
#756 [10:25] <Lazordude900> calinou its saying not downloaded
#757 [10:25] <Lazordude900> ok
#758 [10:25] <Lazordude900> y though
#759 [10:25] <Lazordude900> will it help
#760 [10:25] <Calinou> because, your firewall or antivirus seems to be blocking the connection to minecraft.net, thus preventing the game from being downloaded
#761 [10:26] <Lazordude900> oh
#762 [10:26] <Lazordude900> ok
#763 [10:26] <Lazordude900> now wheres firewall
#764 [10:27] <Calinou> find it? we are volounteers, keep in mind
#765 [10:28] <Lazordude900> so i should turn off firewall?
#766 [10:28] <Lazordude900> wat will it do
#767 [10:28] <Lazordude900> Calinou
#768 [10:29] <Calinou> yes, turn it off temporarily
#769 [10:29] <Lazordude900> wat will it do
#770 [10:29] <Calinou> then run the launcher, go in "options", then click "force update"
#771 [10:29] <Calinou> it will prevent the firewall from blocking the connection
#772 [10:30] <Lazordude900> it still says not downloaded
#773 [10:30] <Lazordude900> so
#774 [10:31] <Lazordude900> when i log in its says under play offline [not downloaded]
#775 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> It says "Play offline [not downloaded]
#776 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> because the launcher contains no game files.
#777 [10:31] <Calinou> don't know then. you should stay around in this channel (if you leave, you will not get help) and wait
#778 [10:31] <Calinou> GreyVulpine, any clue?
#779 [10:31] <GreyVulpine> The launcher only downloads game files
#780 [10:31] <Lazordude900> yeah
#781 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> when you log in with a premium account
#782 [10:32] <Lazordude900> can i download the game files
#783 [10:32] <Lazordude900> where though
#784 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> when you log in with a premium account, yes
#785 [10:32] <Lazordude900> i have
#786 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#787 [10:32] <Lazordude900> but now that i have no premium files
#788 [10:32] <Calinou> we don't support modified launchers here by the way
#789 [10:32] <Lazordude900> i cant login
#790 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> When you log in, you got "Login failed
#791 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Right?
#792 [10:32] <Lazordude900> yeah
#793 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Right
#794 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Your login that you're putting in
#795 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Is wrong
#796 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> That's why
#797 [10:32] <GreyVulpine> Your launcher isn't downloading the files
#798 [10:32] <Lazordude900> like password
#799 [10:32] <Lazordude900> yeah
#800 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Right
#801 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> Put in your right username or password
#802 [10:33] <Lazordude900> so i shud change it?
#803 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> And the launcher will download the files
#804 [10:33] <Lazordude900> im 99% sure i put in right user and pass
#805 [10:33] <Lazordude900> but if not
#806 [10:33] <GreyVulpine> The launcher's giving you "Login failed", which means your username and password is wrong
#807 [10:33] <Lazordude900> shud i take it and go to mojang and find a reset password button
#808 [10:34] <Lazordude900> or area
#809 [10:34] <Lazordude900> then reset it
#810 [10:34] <DiskDaemon> Lazordude900: What is your minecraft username?
#811 [10:34] <Lazordude900> that
#812 [10:34] <Lazordude900> Lazordude900
#813 [10:34] <DiskDaemon> !paid Lazordude900
#814 [10:34] <Lazordude900> wat?
#815 [10:34] <noiro_> Calinou, even OpenJDK 6 won't run Minecraft correctly anymore. What gives?
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#817 [10:35] <DiskDaemon> Lazordude900: I have sent an email to you about resetting your password. Can you tell me when you receive the email?
#818 [10:35] <Lazordude900> ok
#819 [10:36] <Lazordude900> i got it
#820 [10:36] <Lazordude900> i changed it
#821 [10:36] <Lazordude900> ok
#822 [10:36] <Lazordude900> now log in
#823 [10:36] <DiskDaemon> yes thanks
#824 [10:36] <Calinou> noiro_, don't know; you could try going in the launcher options then clicking "force update" there
#825 [10:37] <Lazordude900> thank u so much diskDaemon
#826 [10:37] <Lazordude900> u saved my minecraft
#827 [10:37] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#828 [10:37] <Lazordude900> Disk ur very sart
#829 [10:37] <Lazordude900> smart
#830 [10:37] <Lazordude900> thx
#831 [10:37] <Lazordude900> shall i log off of this now
#832 [10:37] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: Sorry for jumping in there, I just got back home this evening right now :)
#833 [10:37] <DiskDaemon> Lazordude900: Yes, you can do that now
#834 [10:37] <GreyVulpine> \o
#835 [10:37] <Lazordude900> bye thx everyone
#836 [10:38] <noiro_> Calinou, still a black screen
#837 [10:38] <DiskDaemon> Whenever a login failed situation occurs, I find that it works well to confirm their username, and to then go to the "i forgot my password page" and use their username to send them an email about it
#838 [10:39] <Calinou> noiro_, if it even worked, did you use any mods/texture packs?
#839 [10:39] * GreyVulpine nods
#839 [10:39] <noiro_> no, I did nt
#840 [10:42] <noiro_> I just want to play a simple game. Why is this so difficult?
#841 [10:42] <Calinou> noiro_, did you try running MC from command line?
#842 [10:42] <DiskDaemon> Primarily I suspect because it started as an indie game without the resources to develop and test fully on all platforms
#843 [10:42] <noiro_> Calinou, how?
#844 [10:43] <Calinou> noiro_, cd to the directory where minecraft.jar is located then: java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -jar minecraft.jar
#845 [10:43] <Calinou> DiskDaemon, mojang's opinion on linux: "lol, u cant play diablo on it"
#846 [10:43] <noiro_> Calinou, black screen
#847 [10:44] <Calinou> and this is why it's so buggy, especially since 1.2.4 due to the chat update and some keyboard layouts.
#848 [10:44] <Calinou> noiro_, and, the console? any error?
#849 [10:44] <noiro_> http://pastebin.com/jgGmWX6S
#850 [10:45] <Rikairchy> do a force update
#851 [10:45] <noiro_> Rikairchy, same error
#852 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> There seems to be a solution involving setting a library path at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=126112
#853 [10:47] <Rikairchy> "If they don't have a 64-bit version, then you are missing some of the 32-bit libraries needed to run this application, such as gstreamer and such. So, install the 32-bit versions (as well as the 64-bit ones) of the various components you need. You can do that either with apt-get from a command line, or using the synaptic package manager. "
#854 [10:48] <Rikairchy> in short, install both the 32 and 64 bit versions of java
#855 [10:50] <noiro_> DiskDaemon, that script did not work
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#857 [10:50] <noiro_> same error actually
#858 [10:50] <Lazordude900> hey im back
#859 [10:50] <Lazordude900> it all works
#860 [10:50] <Lazordude900> now
#861 [10:51] <DiskDaemon> noiro_: sorry I can't help further
#862 [10:51] <Lazordude900> also
#863 [10:51] <Lazordude900> disk
#864 [10:51] <DiskDaemon> yes?
#865 [10:51] <Rikairchy> noiro_: install 32 and 64 bit versions of java
#866 [10:51] <Lazordude900> u know the mods have u ever had when loading minecraft launcher a black screen then random words then it shutsdwon
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#868 [10:52] <DiskDaemon> Lazordude900: Not particularly, no
#869 [10:52] <Lazordude900> oh well
#870 [10:52] <Lazordude900> i download a mod caleled modloader
#871 [10:52] <Lazordude900> and when i do
#872 [10:52] <Lazordude900> its black screenns mah minecraft and shutsdown
#873 [10:52] <Lazordude900> its riguamis
#874 [10:52] <Calinou> modloader itself does absolutely nothing. also, we do not help with third-party mods
#875 [10:53] <DiskDaemon> Lazordude900: Perhaps some instructions such as the following may help http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1125989-how-to-install-mods-with-pics/
#876 [10:53] <Calinou> (and: read the instructions carefully, anyway)
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#878 [10:53] <Rikairchy> noiro_: run sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk:i386
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#880 [10:54] <Lazordude900> thank u so ur saying i shud reset minecraft first like force update then do it cause my mods will go away right
#881 [10:54] <Calinou> yes
#882 [10:54] <Lazordude900> thx
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#884 [11:06] <Lazordude900> im back
#885 [11:06] <Lazordude900> i followed it
#886 [11:07] <Lazordude900> when i loaded minecraft launcher it did not work it froze and gave a black screen
#887 [11:07] <Lazordude900> can u helo wiith that DiskDaemon
#888 [11:07] <Lazordude900> or anyone
#889 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Delete everything in .minecraft except for your saves
#890 [11:08] <Lazordude900> i have no saves
#891 [11:08] <Lazordude900> i have no worlds
#892 [11:08] <GreyVulpine> Then delete everything in .minecraft
#893 [11:09] <Lazordude900> no creepers no nothing
#894 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Then log into minecraft again
#895 [11:09] <Lazordude900> nooo it does not work
#896 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> What exactly happens?
#897 [11:09] <Lazordude900> it goes mojang screen then black screen then shuts down
#898 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Shuts down?
#899 [11:09] <GreyVulpine> Does it give you any error messages?
#900 [11:09] <Lazordude900> closes it
#901 [11:09] <Lazordude900> yes
#902 [11:09] <Lazordude900> !!!
#903 [11:10] <Lazordude900> finally someone understand 1!
#904 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Please share that error message with us via pastebin.com
#905 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URL to it
#906 [11:10] <Lazordude900> i cant
#907 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Why can't you
#908 [11:10] <Lazordude900> cause im 9
#909 [11:10] <Lazordude900> i dont know how
#910 [11:10] <GreyVulpine> Do you see the error message now?
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#912 [11:10] <Guest> everytime i click on minecraft on my desktop it says that Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. Error: A Fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit. how can i fix this?
#913 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Guest - Uninstall and reinstall java
#914 [11:11] <Guest> Ok
#915 [11:11] <Guest> what if that doesnt work?
#916 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Guest - Then you come back here
#917 [11:11] <Guest> ok
#918 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Lazordude900 - Please select everything in the error message. Copy it. Go to http://www.pastebin.com and paste it underneath "Create new paste", press submit
#919 [11:11] <GreyVulpine> Lazordude900 - Give us the http:// address it takes you to
#920 [11:12] <Lazordude900> greyvulpine how do i do that
#921 [11:12] <Lazordude900> it freezes then quits out
#922 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Lazordude900 - Look at where you have the minecraft icon, there, you'll see files labeled hs_err_pid####
#923 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Those will be the error report files.
#924 [11:12] <GreyVulpine> Open one of them.
#925 [11:13] <Lazordude900> u mean in the files
#926 [11:13] <Lazordude900> right not desktop
#927 [11:14] <Lazordude900> no
#928 [11:14] <Lazordude900> i dont have it say hs_err_pid####
#929 [11:14] <GreyVulpine> Where is the icon where you launch minecraft with?
#930 [11:15] <Lazordude900> in between md5s and minecraft [no picture of grass block]
#931 [11:16] <GreyVulpine> And you don't have any files starting with hs_err_pid?
#932 [11:16] <Lazordude900> in %appdata%
#933 [11:17] <Lazordude900> ???
#934 [11:17] <Lazordude900> .minecraft?
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#936 [11:17] <Lazordude900> bin?
#937 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> No.
#938 [11:17] <Lazordude900> which area
#939 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> The executable file that you got from minecraft.net/download
#940 [11:17] <GreyVulpine> The one you double click on to launch minecraft with
#941 [11:18] <Lazordude900> yeah its in .minecraft so where do i find th writing?
#942 [11:18] <Lazordude900> hs_errr....
#943 [11:20] <Boreeas> You moved the file to .minecraft? Why?
#944 [11:20] <Lazordude900> wat file i donnt understand?
#945 [11:20] <Lazordude900> shud i force update?
#946 [11:20] <Boreeas> You went to http://minecraft.net/download, and download Minecraft.exe, right?
#947 [11:20] <Lazordude900> yeah
#948 [11:21] <Boreeas> Where did you save the .exe to?
#949 [11:21] <Lazordude900> then i put it on desktop
#950 [11:21] <Lazordude900> idk
#951 [11:21] <Lazordude900> where do i put it?
#952 [11:21] <Boreeas> AH, that was what we were looking for
#953 [11:21] <Boreeas> So the hs_ee_pid should be on you desktop
#954 [11:21] <Lazordude900> no
#955 [11:21] <Lazordude900> becasue
#956 [11:21] <Lazordude900> it s gone
#957 [11:21] <Lazordude900> shud i redownload it
#958 [11:22] <Boreeas> Did you delete it? If so, just open Minecraft again, wait for it to crash.
#959 [11:22] <Lazordude900> ok lol
#960 [11:22] <Boreeas> That should recreate the hs_err_pid
#961 [11:23] <Lazordude900> it crahed
#962 [11:23] <Lazordude900> i mean crashed
#963 [11:23] <Boreeas> Good. Do you now see a file called "hs_err_pid" on your desktop?
#964 [11:24] <Lazordude900> know
#965 [11:24] <Lazordude900> no
#966 [11:24] <Lazordude900> wait
#967 [11:24] <Lazordude900> i think i shud redownload minecraft.exe on minecraft.net right?
#968 [11:24] <Lazordude900> then crash
#969 [11:25] <Lazordude900> so it workd
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#971 [11:25] <Lazordude900> will it
#972 [11:25] <Boreeas> Try that.
#973 [11:25] <Lazordude900> ok brb
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#975 [11:26] <Lazordude900> so it shud say um minecraft
#976 [11:26] <Lazordude900> and have a grass block on top
#977 [11:26] <Boreeas> This is the file you want: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#978 [11:26] <ty> what
#979 [11:27] <Boreeas> ty: Talking to someone else
#980 [11:27] <Lazordude900> ok
#981 [11:27] <Lazordude900> yep got it on the desktop
#982 [11:27] <Lazordude900> 2 of them actually
#983 [11:27] <Boreeas> Delete the old one
#984 [11:27] <Lazordude900> ok delted old one
#985 [11:28] <Boreeas> Launch the new one
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#987 [11:28] <Lazordude900> ok
#988 [11:28] <Boreeas> Does it crash?
#989 [11:28] <Lazordude900> now it says wud u like to run it
#990 [11:28] <Lazordude900> no
#991 [11:28] <Boreeas> Yes, you want to run it.
#992 [11:28] <Lazordude900> ok
#993 [11:28] <Lazordude900> now shud i press login
#994 [11:29] <Boreeas> Yes
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#996 [11:29] <Lazordude900> now it crashed!!! and closed
#997 [11:30] <Boreeas> And, do you now see a hs_err_pid
#998 [11:30] <Lazordude900> no where shud it be
#999 [11:30] <Guest> ok i uninstalled and reinstalled java what do i do now
#1000 [11:30] <Boreeas> On the desktop
#1001 [11:30] <Lazordude900> no
#1002 [11:30] <GreyVulpine> Guest - Now try minecraft
#1003 [11:30] <Boreeas> Okay, let's try something else then
#1004 [11:30] <Boreeas> :tv > Lazordude900
#1005 [11:30] <Lazordude900> ok
#1006 [11:30] <Guest> nopee didnt work )))):
#1007 [11:30] <Boreeas> :tv
#1008 [11:30] <Lazordude900> wat
#1009 [11:31] <Boreeas> Ah, WubBot's gone
#1010 [11:31] <Guest> it was fine all day yesterday ):
#1011 [11:31] <GreyVulpine> Guest - How did you uninstall it?
#1012 [11:31] <Lazordude900> Boreeas
#1013 [11:31] <Boreeas> ??> Lazordude900 teamviewer
#1014 [11:31] <VoxelHead> Lazordude900: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1015 [11:31] <Lazordude900> can i add something
#1016 [11:31] <VoxelHead> Lazordude900: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1017 [11:31] <Boreeas> Lazordude900: Download this program, run it
#1018 [11:31] <Lazordude900> are u shure
#1019 [11:32] <Boreeas> Yes. It's a great tool for troubleshooting
#1020 [11:32] <Lazordude900> ok
#1021 [11:32] <kARma_SUX> Hey I recently upgraded my server to run on an SSD. How often do minecraft servers write to disk? Is running on an SSD going to kill it's write cycles or should it not impact it that much?
#1022 [11:32] <Boreeas> You should get a screen like this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31575034/mchelp/teamviewer.png
#1023 [11:33] <tikker> @kARma_SUX it shouldn't affect anything
#1024 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> kARma_SUX - It writes it pretty often, once every 30 seconds.
#1025 [11:33] <Lazordude900> but u can anything to the computer
#1026 [11:33] <Boreeas> As long as you let me, yes
#1027 [11:33] <Lazordude900> are u a secure
#1028 [11:33] <Boreeas> As soon as you close the program, I can no longer do anything
#1029 [11:33] <Lazordude900> and offical helper
#1030 [11:33] <GreyVulpine> Boreeas is.
#1031 [11:33] <Lazordude900> BOreas
#1032 [11:34] <Lazordude900> so i download it and u can fix it
#1033 [11:34] <Boreeas> Yes
#1034 [11:34] <Lazordude900> like how it crashes
#1035 [11:34] <Boreeas> Or at least, I will try to
#1036 [11:34] <Lazordude900> and i can see it
#1037 [11:34] <Boreeas> Exactly
#1038 [11:34] <Lazordude900> ok
#1039 [11:34] <kARma_SUX> @GreyVulpine - so running it off an ssd is probably not a good idea?
#1040 [11:34] <Lazordude900> ok ill download it
#1041 [11:34] <Lazordude900> thx
#1042 [11:34] <GreyVulpine> kARma_SUX - Not really a problem running it off an SSD.
#1043 [11:35] <Lazordude900> so wat do i press
#1044 [11:35] <tikker> SSD is faster than a regular harddrive, so it should perform better
#1045 [11:35] <GreyVulpine> If it were me, I'd run the server off a RAMdisk, and have it sync to an SSD periodically.
#1046 [11:35] <Boreeas> Do you see the two fields highlighted in the picture, Lazordude900?
#1047 [11:35] <kARma_SUX> @GreyVulpine - any good programs for that? my server runs off ubuntu
#1048 [11:36] <Boreeas> You should also have those in your window. Tell them to me in a PM
#1049 [11:36] <TheNoodle> pricewise you're better off with a high end ssd.
#1050 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> kARma_SUX - Look at: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Ramdisk_enabled_server
#1051 [11:36] <GreyVulpine> People have written pretty good scripts for this
#1052 [11:36] <Lazordude900> yep
#1053 [11:37] <Lazordude900> the id and password
#1054 [11:37] <Lazordude900> Boreas?
#1055 [11:37] <Boreeas> Great. I need those two to connect, but for your security, you should PM me with them: /query Boreeas ID: XXX YYY ZZZ, pass: ABCD
#1056 [11:38] <Lazordude900> wait my dad says no
#1057 [11:38] <Lazordude900> he says its not safe
#1058 [11:38] <kARma_SUX> @GreyVulpine awesome thanks!
#1059 [11:38] <Lazordude900> so is there another way
#1060 [11:38] <Boreeas> Lazordude900: It is the safest remote diagnostic tool I know.
#1061 [11:39] <skyboy> it should be possible to disconnect him on your end if you feel he's doing something malicious
#1062 [11:39] <Lazordude900> well he said he doesnt know u
#1063 [11:39] <Lazordude900> oh
#1064 [11:39] <Lazordude900> well tell me wat ull do
#1065 [11:39] <Lazordude900> first so i know
#1066 [11:39] <Guest> how do i uninstall java?
#1067 [11:39] <Boreeas> Right. If I do something you don't like, close the Teamviewer window, or disconnect from the internet, and I will no longer be able to do anything.
#1068 [11:40] <Lazordude900> well tell me wat ull try to do
#1069 [11:40] <Boreeas> I will: Run the program to see exactly what happens. Search for the hs_err_pid. Gather information about your hardware and drivers so I can see if there is an error with that.
#1070 [11:40] <GreyVulpine> Guest - What operating system are you on?
#1071 [11:40] <Lazordude900> ok
#1072 [11:40] <Lazordude900> so
#1073 [11:40] <Guest> windows x[
#1074 [11:40] <Guest> xp
#1075 [11:40] <Lazordude900> how do i send secret message
#1076 [11:40] <Boreeas> With /query
#1077 [11:41] <Guest> windows xp
#1078 [11:41] <Boreeas> /query Boreeas Hi
#1079 [11:41] <GreyVulpine> Guest - Start -> Control panel -> Add remove programs -> search for Java in that list, hit uninstall
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#1081 [11:42] <superkabii> don't worry, Boreeas doesn't bite ;)
#1082 [11:42] <Lazordude900> ok
#1083 [11:42] <Lazordude900> i
#1084 [11:42] <Lazordude900> ok
#1085 [11:43] <Lazordude900> guys
#1086 [11:43] <Lazordude900> help
#1087 [11:43] <Rikairchy> hi
#1088 [11:44] <Lazordude900> hello
#1089 [11:44] <Lazordude900> booreass
#1090 [11:44] <Boreeas> Lazordude900: Ok, try this instead: Click here: #secretroom
#1091 [11:46] <Rikairchy> rofl
#1092 [11:46] <Necrodoom> "you must be invited"
#1093 [11:46] <Boreeas> Well, duh. Did you think I would make this public?
#1094 [11:47] <Rikairchy> D:
#1095 [11:47] <skyboy> i can't believe #secretroom was available.
#1096 [11:48] <Rikairchy> so is #hiddenchan
#1097 [11:48] <skyboy> hmm.
#1098 [11:48] <skyboy> #thesupersecretnevertobefoundroom
#1099 [11:49] <Rikairchy> its empty
#1100 [11:49] <Rikairchy> i found it first ^.^
#1101 [11:49] <skyboy> actually, i had just left :P
#1102 [11:50] <Rikairchy> lies D:
#1103 [11:50] <skyboy> nope, i had no use for it
#1104 [11:50] <skyboy> enjoy the most secret place in all of IRC!
#1105 [11:50] <Rikairchy> thats #hiddenchan
#1106 [11:50] <Rikairchy> D:
#1107 [11:50] <skyboy> like that secret hidden bunker near one US city that's clearly marked on all highway signs
#1108 [11:51] <Rikairchy> and isnt really there
#1109 [11:51] <skyboy> but ther signs say "secret bunker!"
#1110 [11:51] <Rikairchy> but its a trap
#1111 [11:51] <skyboy> signs wouldn't lie! they're signs!
#1112 [11:52] <Rikairchy> the internet doesnt lie
#1113 [11:52] <skyboy> no, the internet lies
#1114 [11:52] <Rikairchy> liar!
#1115 [11:52] <skyboy> occasionally the internet tries to kill you with mustard gas, too
#1116 [11:52] <TheInternet> i never lie!
#1117 [11:52] <skyboy> TheInternet: liar
#1118 [11:56] <Guest> ok i unistalled and reinstalled it correctly this time and still doesnt work )):
#1119 [11:57] <skyboy> what version?
#1120 [11:58] <Guest> 7
#1121 [11:58] <skyboy> ??> Guest java/1.7
#1122 [11:58] <VoxelHead> Guest: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#1123 [11:59] <Guest> get that version?
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#1125 [11:59] <skyboy> ??> Guest java/jre/6u29
#1126 [11:59] <skyboy> ??> Guest java/jre6u29
#1127 [11:59] <VoxelHead> Guest: (java/jre6u29) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#1128 [11:59] <skyboy> uninstall java7, and install that version
#1129 [12:00] <Calinou> high five skyboy (java 7 haters group)=
#1130 [12:00] <Calinou> minus =
#1131 [12:01] <Guest> what do i do
#1132 [12:02] <skyboy> ..you uninstall it again, then reinstall the correct version linked above
#1133 [12:03] <Guest> which one though there is alot of choices to pick
#1134 [12:04] <Guest> ??
#1135 [12:08] <Boreeas> TheInternet is a lie
#1136 [12:08] <Guest> ok i installed it
#1137 [12:09] <Boreeas> So apparently the issue was having too many mods installed
#1138 [12:09] <Guest> the java virtual machine error still comes up!!!!
#1139 [12:09] <skyboy> post the error on pastebin and post the link here
#1140 [12:09] <Guest> cant copy and paste so type it?
#1141 [12:10] <skyboy> actually, just take a screenshot
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#1143 [12:11] <jimmy> hello?
#1144 [12:11] <skyboy> ??> jimmy ask
#1145 [12:11] <VoxelHead> jimmy: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1146 [12:11] <VoxelHead> jimmy: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1147 [12:11] <jimmy> ok
#1148 [12:12] <jimmy> i payed for minecraft downloaded it and played it but i accidently deleted it and i dont know how to re download
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#1151 [12:12] <\r\n> jimmy: http://minecraft.net/downloads
#1152 [12:12] <\r\n> err, sorry
#1153 [12:12] <\r\n> http://minecraft.net/downloads/
#1154 [12:12] <\r\n> click "minecraft.exe"
#1155 [12:12] <\r\n> run it
#1156 [12:12] <\r\n> log in
#1157 [12:12] <\r\n> and voila, you have minecraft again.
#1158 [12:12] <jimmy> ok give me a sec
#1159 [12:13] <jimmy> yep logged in
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#1161 [12:15] <robin> does anyone else here play on pvp.mrminecraft.net ?
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#1163 [12:16] <jimmy__> i ran it and it just lauches the minecraft launcher
#1164 [12:16] <skyboy> yes, log in with the launcher, and it will download minecraft again then launch it
#1165 [12:17] <jimmy__> ohh ok let me just try
#1166 [12:19] <Calinou> robin, no, we do not help with specific servers
#1167 [12:20] <Calinou> if you got banned from a server, you'll have to find a way to contact the admins
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#1170 [12:28] <Greenownes> Hey when ever i play minecraft it chashs just after i enter a map. It closes the game every time and i dont know what to do please help
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#1175 [12:49] <DEFCON98> hey can somebody help me with modding the vanilla server?
#1176 [12:49] <DEFCON98> anybody?
#1177 [12:50] <DEFCON98> Ok well I'm just gonna post my question hopefully someone will come around and answer it
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#1181 [12:51] <DEFCON98> My problem is that I have installed ModloaderMP on my server, I unzip all the mod files and drop em into the mods folder. After that I startup the server, no problem, then I put in the crafting recipe, and when I click the resulting item, I get disconnected with End Of Stream
#1182 [12:52] <DEFCON98> One of my "hypothesis" is that I didnt put the mod in correctly, do I leave it in the zip and drop it into Mods or do I unzip it?
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#1184 [12:53] <skyboy> i think you're supposed to leave those zipped up
#1185 [12:53] <DEFCON98> really?
#1186 [12:54] <DEFCON98> because there was one exception
#1187 [12:54] <DEFCON98> I downloaded a bunker mod and unzipped it, dropped it in and it was fine
#1188 [12:54] <skyboy> well, i can't say for certain since i play vanilla
#1189 [12:54] <DEFCON98> it worked completely perfectly
#1190 [12:54] <DEFCON98> : /
#1191 [12:54] <DEFCON98> ok....
#1192 [12:55] <akhrua95> hiyas um i messed up installing a mod, uninstalled everything and reinstalled it all even java and now i cant try to install it without mozilla going unresponsive
#1193 [12:55] <skyboy> from what i recall of what i read, zipped, however i can't promise 'm recalling accurate information
#1194 [12:55] <DEFCON98> do you remember where you heard it from?
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#1196 [12:55] <DEFCON98> because there are no youtube videos explaining this area
#1197 [12:55] <skyboy> the modloader forum thread
#1198 [12:55] <DEFCON98> some people say im getting disconnected because I have an outdated ModloaderMP
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#1200 [12:55] <DEFCON98> but I know for a fact I have the latest
#1201 [12:55] <DEFCON98> ok ill go check it out
#1202 [12:57] <DEFCON98> if anyone else could analyze the situation I would be grateful
#1203 [12:57] <DEFCON98> My problem is that I have installed ModloaderMP on my server, I unzip all the mod files and drop em into the mods folder. After that I startup the server, no problem, then I put in the crafting recipe, and when I click the resulting item, I get disconnected with End Of Stream. My problem is that I have installed ModloaderMP on my server, I unzip all the mod files and drop em into the mods folder. After that I startup th
#1204 [12:57] <DEFCON98> item it disconnectes me with end of stream
#1205 [12:58] <GreyVulpine> Then there's some mod difference that's making the server bork
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#1207 [13:00] <akhrua95> can anyone help me out please? i messed up installing a mod uninstalled everything even java to fix it and now i cant install java back without my mozilla browser going unresponsive and shutting down
#1208 [13:01] <akhrua95> anyone here?
#1209 [13:01] <VoxelHead> No.
#1210 [13:01] <Calinou> we don't help with mods
#1211 [13:01] <Calinou> also, mods do not work with the in-browser version
#1212 [13:01] <Calinou> ?? mods
#1213 [13:01] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1214 [13:01] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1215 [13:01] <DEFCON98> HUH?
#1216 [13:02] <Calinou> DEFCON98, this goes to you too, looks like
#1217 [13:02] <DEFCON98> WHAT SORRY
#1218 [13:02] <Calinou> install it yourself, fix it yourself
#1219 [13:02] <DEFCON98> oops
#1220 [13:02] <DEFCON98> caos
#1221 [13:02] <VoxelHead> you're doing it wrong
#1222 [13:02] <DEFCON98> I know I did it right, one mod worked co mpletely fine
#1223 [13:02] <DEFCON98> completely*
#1224 [13:03] <DEFCON98> the others were there the crafting recipes worked but the server disconnected me upon clicking the resulting item
#1225 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> The server disconnected you, because either you don't have the single player version of the mod on your client, or the server doesn't know what to do with the mod, or the mod was just badly done/outdated
#1226 [13:04] <GreyVulpine> Kinda the problem with these mods, if you want to use them, you need to keep on top of them. The only people to ask for help from, is from the person that made the mod.
#1227 [13:05] <GreyVulpine> We can't give you any help, because we don't know how the mod is written. Not all mods are created alike, and they certainly aren't made with interoperability in mind.
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#1230 [13:22] <Ronon> Hello, I have several bugs (can't leave the tchat in minecraft when typing /* and sometimes when I click it's like I press the Esc key). I try it with two differents computers including one where there is no bug with another user, so I think it's an account problem. My account was buy one year ago. So if somebody can help me?
#1231 [13:24] <Greenownes> thanks that worked
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#1233 [13:28] <Calinou> hi frenchie! :P
#1234 [13:28] <Calinou> Ronon, what operating system?
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#1236 [13:29] <Calinou> to fix: left click anywhere outside the window, left click in the window again, press escape... and it should work
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#1240 [13:40] <Ronon> my operating system is linux
#1241 [13:40] <Calinou> that's a known bug on linux; nothing to do; a temporary solution would be to change keyboard layout.
#1242 [13:40] <Calinou> (not advisable at all though)
#1243 [13:40] <Calinou> it will probably be fixed in the next version (1.3), as you will be able to change the "command" key
#1244 [13:41] <Ronon> but it's only with my account and not with an other (try both account with the same computer and same installation
#1245 [13:42] <Calinou> that's based on experience, not knowledge. the bug is keyboard layout-related
#1246 [13:43] <Ronon> I try on a computer which works perfectly with an account of one of my friend and when I use my account it's bugging
#1247 [13:45] <Ronon> Maybe it's because I bought the game and have my account when the game was in beta, because my friend buy the game and have his account this week
#1248 [13:45] <Calinou> this has nothing to do with your account
#1249 [13:45] * Calinou facepalms
#1249 [13:46] <Ronon> how do you explain the bug apparition when I connect with my account on a computer which have no bugs with an other account ?
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#1251 [13:47] <Ronon> bug appearance*
#1252 [13:49] <Calinou> is it the same computer?
#1253 [13:51] <Ronon> yes
#1254 [13:51] <Ronon> and I try on my computer too and same bugs again and again
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#1256 [13:52] <Ronon> so for me it's my account which may be bugging but I don't know anymore
#1257 [13:53] <Ronon> my account is old (one year ago) and the account of my friend with no bugs on the same computer is very recent
#1258 [13:57] <Ronon> so what I can do?
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#1260 [14:00] <DarkWolfInsanity> I need help.
#1261 [14:00] <DarkWolfInsanity> My minecraft no longer has sound and crashes when i try to turn it on.
#1262 [14:03] <VoxelHead> bye Amberk
#1263 [14:03] <DarkWolfInsanity> Guess my thing is an unsolvable problem? xD
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#1266 [14:13] <itsmesh> When I try to play in browser it says error writing to server, and on download it just wont connect to server, how can I fix this?
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#1268 [14:14] <bob> hi3.
#1269 [14:14] <bob> hi
#1270 [14:14] <itsmesh> hi
#1271 [14:14] <bob> i need halp
#1272 [14:14] <itsmesh> same
#1273 [14:14] <itsmesh> whats the matter?
#1274 [14:14] <DarkWolfInsanity> starting to hate how the help channel doesn't give you help
#1275 [14:14] <VoxelHead> Master?
#1276 [14:15] <itsmesh> indeed darkwolf
#1277 [14:15] <Guest66224> oh it changed my name.......... you can still call me bob i guess
#1278 [14:16] <itsmesh> bob, whats the problem?
#1279 [14:16] <Guest66224> how do you know what lvl you are at and your x and y?
#1280 [14:16] <Guest66224> lvl meaning how deep underground
#1281 [14:17] <itsmesh> press f3
#1282 [14:17] <itsmesh> it shows you
#1283 [14:17] <itsmesh> but when i try to log in or play it says it cant reach server.... anyone knows how to fix?
#1284 [14:17] <Guest66224> ok and how do you get the minimap?
#1285 [14:17] <itsmesh> you need to make the minimap
#1286 [14:17] <Guest66224> ????
#1287 [14:17] <itsmesh> by surrounding a compas with wool in a crafting table you get a map
#1288 [14:18] <VoxelHead> Stolen?
#1289 [14:18] <itsmesh> no voxel
#1290 [14:18] <itsmesh> legit
#1291 [14:18] <itsmesh> just bought it
#1292 [14:18] <itsmesh> whenever i even try to login at minecraft
#1293 [14:18] <Guest66224> you mean thats how people get the thing in the right hand corner?
#1294 [14:19] <itsmesh> thing in right hand corner? o.O
#1295 [14:19] <Guest66224> is it?
#1296 [14:19] <itsmesh> and meh.... it says cant connect to minecraft.net wtf
#1297 [14:19] <itsmesh> and idk about a thing in right hand corner bob, srry
#1298 [14:19] <Guest66224> some people have a minimap in the right hand corner
#1299 [14:20] <Guest66224> ok....... oh and do you know how to get a crafting book mod?
#1300 [14:21] <itsmesh> nop srry
#1301 [14:21] <itsmesh> dont have
#1302 [14:21] <Guest66224> ok.... :(
#1303 [14:21] <Guest66224> i dont know where to find this stuff
#1304 [14:22] <Guest66224> D:
#1305 [14:22] <itsmesh> look at the wiki
#1306 [14:22] <itsmesh> and search mods
#1307 [14:22] <itsmesh> :3
#1308 [14:22] <Guest66224> ok :D thanks for the idea!
#1309 [14:23] <Guest66224> bye!!!!!!!!!!! you halped!!!!!!!!!
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#1314 [14:37] <itsmesh> when i try to play it in the downloaded thing it says i didnt download and that it cant connect to minecraft.net
#1315 [14:37] <itsmesh> help?
#1316 [14:37] <tcial> Do you have >1 Ethernet port
#1317 [14:39] <tikker> what can i do for you itsmesh?
#1318 [14:39] <tikker> o nvm :P
#1319 [14:39] <tikker> you have to download it
#1320 [14:40] <tcial> No tiller
#1321 [14:40] <tcial> tikker:
#1322 [14:40] <tikker> ?
#1323 [14:40] <itsmesh> i downloaded it
#1324 [14:40] <tcial> Its a problem with his client connecting to the internet
#1325 [14:40] <itsmesh> indeed
#1326 [14:40] <tikker> o
#1327 [14:40] <itsmesh> it wont somehow
#1328 [14:40] <tcial> Its a client problem
#1329 [14:40] <itsmesh> :S
#1330 [14:40] <tikker> is a firewall blocking it?
#1331 [14:40] <tcial> How many Ethernet ports do you have, and what OS are you using?
#1332 [14:41] <tikker> some tend to do
#1333 [14:42] <itsmesh> firewall turned off
#1334 [14:42] <itsmesh> and doesnt work
#1335 [14:42] <itsmesh> and using windows 7
#1336 [14:42] <tcial> Try the jar
#1337 [14:42] <itsmesh> i need to download minecraft.jar from site?
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#1339 [14:42] <tikker> do you have an anitvirus program installed?
#1340 [14:43] <tikker> try adding an exception for minecraft.exe in that case
#1341 [14:43] <tcial> You need to download the launcher jar
#1342 [14:43] <tcial> On the downloads page, look under other OSes
#1343 [14:43] <tikker> go with tcial first
#1344 [14:43] <tcial> 'show all platforms'
#1345 [14:43] <tcial> Get the jar
#1346 [14:43] <tcial> Double click it
#1347 [14:43] <tcial> :)
#1348 [14:43] <itsmesh> same error with the jar
#1349 [14:43] <VoxelHead> =D
#1350 [14:43] <tcial> Update java?
#1351 [14:43] <tikker> itsmesh, do you have an antivirus installed?
#1352 [14:43] <itsmesh> tried already
#1353 [14:44] <itsmesh> and i do tikker
#1354 [14:44] <tikker> or are you using a proxy?
#1355 [14:44] <itsmesh> i use f-secure
#1356 [14:44] <tcial> Disable ALL the antiviruses!
#1357 [14:44] <tikker> or add an exception
#1358 [14:44] <tikker> that's a bit safer ;)
#1359 [14:44] <itsmesh> i'll try, thanks
#1360 [14:44] <itsmesh> as soon as i figure out how
#1361 [14:44] <itsmesh> haha
#1362 [14:44] <itsmesh> thanks for now :D:D:D
#1363 [14:44] <VoxelHead> Evaluation: PATHETIC%percent$@%percent$%percent£%percent@$^~!.
#1364 [14:45] <tikker> wat is f-secure
#1365 [14:45] <tikker> never heard of it before
#1366 [14:45] <itsmesh> its from xs4all
#1367 [14:45] <itsmesh> its kinda weird but its supposed to work
#1368 [14:45] <itsmesh> :S
#1369 [14:45] <tcial> f*cking secure
#1370 [14:45] <itsmesh> kinda
#1371 [14:46] <tcial> funky secure?
#1372 [14:46] <itsmesh> no lol
#1373 [14:46] <tikker> itsmesh
#1374 [14:46] <tikker> i think you can add exceptions here:
#1375 [14:47] <tikker> open F-Secure
#1376 [14:47] <tikker> go to settings
#1377 [14:47] <tikker> in the left panel select "application control" under the internet category
#1378 [14:47] <tikker> wait
#1379 [14:47] <tikker> just go here: http://www.uniblue.com/nl/support/faq/firewall-settings-f-secure/
#1380 [14:47] <tikker> :P
#1381 [14:47] <DarkWolfInsanity> someone want to help me yet?
#1382 [14:48] <tikker> @itsmesh, if it's in dutch, change the .com/nl/support part to .com/en/support
#1383 [14:48] <tikker> @DarkWolf, sure
#1384 [14:48] <itsmesh> and thanks :D
#1385 [14:48] <DarkWolfInsanity> My minecraft no longer has sound
#1386 [14:48] <itsmesh> and yay thx tikker im dutch haha
#1387 [14:48] <tikker> o XD
#1388 [14:48] <DarkWolfInsanity> when i try to turn it on either with the bars or in the config, it crashes
#1389 [14:49] <itsmesh> o.O
#1390 [14:49] <tikker> @DarkWolf, while ingame press F3+S
#1391 [14:49] <tikker> this will re-download all sounds
#1392 [14:49] <DarkWolfInsanity> strangely it all started happening after i downloaded a DayZ mod for it
#1393 [14:49] <itsmesh> maybe theres the problem
#1394 [14:49] <tikker> (unless you're playing classic, which has no sound anymore)
#1395 [14:50] <itsmesh> at launcher click force update
#1396 [14:50] <tikker> itsmesh may be right
#1397 [14:50] <tikker> uninstall the mod and try again
#1398 [14:50] <DarkWolfInsanity> nope
#1399 [14:50] <DarkWolfInsanity> still crashed
#1400 [14:50] <DarkWolfInsanity> i already removed the mod and redid my entire .minecraft folder
#1401 [14:50] <tikker> crashed?
#1402 [14:51] <itsmesh> try to click force update at the launcher
#1403 [14:51] <DarkWolfInsanity> did that mesh
#1404 [14:51] <DarkWolfInsanity> let's see if reinstalling java will help
#1405 [14:52] <tikker> wait
#1406 [14:52] <itsmesh> :S im sorry no idea then
#1407 [14:52] <tikker> does it crash
#1408 [14:52] <tikker> or just not play sounds
#1409 [14:52] <DarkWolfInsanity> it wont play sounds or music, and anytime i click on the sliders to try and turn it on, it crashes
#1410 [14:53] <tikker> do you get an error log?
#1411 [14:53] <DarkWolfInsanity> I might disappear for a bit if this runs on Java
#1412 [14:53] <DarkWolfInsanity> it keeps saying fatal java runtime error, so i'm redoing java
#1413 [14:54] <itsmesh> im sorry i have no idea
#1414 [14:54] <DarkWolfInsanity> It might work after this
#1415 [14:54] <DarkWolfInsanity> I'm not sure
#1416 [14:55] <DarkWolfInsanity> nope. still crashed
#1417 [14:55] <tikker> do you get a file named like "hspid_errorlog_xxx.txt" ?
#1418 [14:55] <tikker> or something like that
#1419 [14:55] <DarkWolfInsanity> yeah
#1420 [14:56] <DarkWolfInsanity> it keeps saying something like this
#1421 [14:56] <tikker> can you put up the contents?
#1422 [14:56] <DarkWolfInsanity> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x55d62d02, pid=14424, tid=11096 # # JRE version: 7.0_05-b06 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (23.1-b03 mixed mode windows-x86 ) # Problematic frame: # C [OpenAL32.dll+0x32d02] alcProcessContext+0x26c80 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions of Windows
#1423 [14:56] <tikker> on pastebin
#1424 [14:56] <tikker> ??pastebin
#1425 [14:56] <DarkWolfInsanity> too late for that xD
#1426 [14:56] <tikker> ..
#1427 [14:56] <tikker> forgot the syntax XD
#1428 [14:56] <DarkWolfInsanity> but yeah. i'll stick the full thing on it
#1429 [14:56] <tikker> ?help
#1430 [14:56] <tikker> huh
#1431 [14:56] <tikker> help XD
#1432 [14:56] <tikker> what was the syntax again
#1433 [14:57] <DarkWolfInsanity> http://pastebin.com/ss3TTKZU
#1434 [14:57] <DarkWolfInsanity> dunno
#1435 [14:57] <DarkWolfInsanity> try /
#1436 [14:57] <tikker> >>help
#1437 [14:57] <tikker> ?
#1438 [14:57] <tikker> ??
#1439 [14:57] <tikker> ?? help
#1440 [14:57] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#1441 [14:57] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#1442 [14:58] <tikker> ?? pastebin
#1443 [14:58] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1444 [14:58] <tikker> ah =D
#1445 [14:58] <DarkWolfInsanity> just click the link i put up
#1446 [14:58] <tikker> it's ?? <space> tag
#1447 [14:58] <tikker> looking at it
#1448 [14:59] <DarkWolfInsanity> its the same thing every time
#1449 [15:00] <tikker> it's a problem with openAL
#1450 [15:00] <DarkWolfInsanity> huh?
#1451 [15:00] <itsmesh> the firewall and settings turning off didnt work
#1452 [15:00] <itsmesh> maybe itll work tomorrow? just bought it?
#1453 [15:00] <DarkWolfInsanity> wait wait
#1454 [15:00] <tikker> @itsmesh can you even log in?
#1455 [15:00] <tikker> # Problematic frame: C [OpenAL32.dll+0x32d02
#1456 [15:00] <DarkWolfInsanity> hmm...
#1457 [15:01] <DarkWolfInsanity> does that mean i don't have it?
#1458 [15:01] <tikker> are you using 32 or 64 bit win
#1459 [15:01] <DarkWolfInsanity> 32
#1460 [15:01] <tikker> reinstalling java and/or minecraft didn't help?
#1461 [15:02] <itsmesh> no icant
#1462 [15:02] <DarkWolfInsanity> nope
#1463 [15:02] <itsmesh> thats the problem
#1464 [15:02] <DarkWolfInsanity> strange. i'm going though my system32 folder and can't find something that says openal32.dat
#1465 [15:02] <DarkWolfInsanity> .dll*
#1466 [15:03] <DarkWolfInsanity> the closest i found was opengl32.dll
#1467 [15:03] <tikker> openAL32.dll is in minecraft folder
#1468 [15:03] <DarkWolfInsanity> ah
#1469 [15:03] <tikker> bin>natives
#1470 [15:04] <tikker> have you tried clicking force update?
#1471 [15:04] <DarkWolfInsanity> any way to open it and see what's wrong?
#1472 [15:04] <DarkWolfInsanity> twice
#1473 [15:04] <tikker> try this:
#1474 [15:04] <tikker> go to .minecraft\bin\natives
#1475 [15:05] <DarkWolfInsanity> dine
#1476 [15:05] <DarkWolfInsanity> done*
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#1478 [15:05] <tikker> and MOVE OpenAL32.dll and OpenAL64.dll to a temporary location
#1479 [15:05] <tikker> somewhere where you can find them back
#1480 [15:05] <tikker> and then try to launch the game
#1481 [15:05] <DarkWolfInsanity> yeah
#1482 [15:05] <VoxelHead> And then my head turned into some bits.
#1483 [15:06] <tikker> voxelhead, are you a bot or not, i'm confused sometimes :P
#1484 [15:06] <DarkWolfInsanity> same crash
#1485 [15:06] <VoxelHead> tikker: not,
#1486 [15:06] <DarkWolfInsanity> NO WAIT
#1487 [15:06] <DarkWolfInsanity> It let me move the bars this time!
#1488 [15:06] <tikker> :)
#1489 [15:06] <DarkWolfInsanity> but there's still no sound
#1490 [15:06] <VoxelHead> ;)
#1491 [15:06] <tikker> press F3+S
#1492 [15:07] <tikker> and then check again
#1493 [15:07] <tikker> (it may take a minute or so)
#1494 [15:07] <DarkWolfInsanity> f3+s just made me move backwards
#1495 [15:07] <DarkWolfInsanity> xD
#1496 [15:08] <tikker> it should also re-download the sounds
#1497 [15:08] <DarkWolfInsanity> you mean do it on the title or something, right?
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#1499 [15:08] <tikker> no, ingame
#1500 [15:08] <tikker> you can try it in the title
#1501 [15:08] <tikker> or first press F3 and then press F3+S
#1502 [15:09] <tikker> what is it when a name turns red?
#1503 [15:09] <tikker> like voxel's just did to me
#1504 [15:09] <DarkWolfInsanity> they're typing
#1505 [15:09] <tikker> not that
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#1507 [15:09] <tikker> i heard a beep
#1508 [15:10] <tikker> too
#1509 [15:10] <tikker> well, doesn't matter anyway
#1510 [15:10] <tikker> is your sound back yet?
#1511 [15:10] <DarkWolfInsanity> nope
#1512 [15:10] <DarkWolfInsanity> once i put the openal32.dll back in the folder, it crashed again
#1513 [15:11] <DarkWolfInsanity> and i know now that that's what gets sound to work
#1514 [15:12] <tikker> move it out and try force update again
#1515 [15:13] <DarkWolfInsanity> nope
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#1517 [15:14] <DarkWolfInsanity> still the same thing
#1518 [15:14] <DarkWolfInsanity> openal32.dll is having problems
#1519 [15:16] <tikker> and if you put back openal64 instead?
#1520 [15:17] <DarkWolfInsanity> dunno
#1521 [15:17] <DarkWolfInsanity> my computer isnt 64 bit
#1522 [15:18] <DarkWolfInsanity> nothin
#1523 [15:18] <Rikairchy> 0.0
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#1525 [15:18] <DarkWolfInsanity> with openal32.dll gone, the sliders once again work, but sound still doesn't come back
#1526 [15:22] <tikker> then i'm afraid i can't help you further :(
#1527 [15:22] <DarkWolfInsanity> damnit...
#1528 [15:22] <DarkWolfInsanity> my minecraft is broke. T^T
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#1530 [15:25] <DarkWolfInsanity> well
#1531 [15:25] <DarkWolfInsanity> bye
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#1533 [15:26] <Ian> I am getting the following error when I try to open Minecraft: "Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers." I tried going to the Intel website and downloading the driver (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9033&ProdId=865&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20%20Home%20Edition*&DownloadType=), but it didn't wo
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#1535 [15:27] <JohnEBH> Ian, Pastebin
#1536 [15:27] <JohnEBH> ??> Ian pastebin
#1537 [15:27] <VoxelHead> Ian: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1539 [15:27] <VoxelHead> watch out for the moose
#1540 [15:27] <Ian> OK, Thanks
#1541 [15:27] <JohnEBH> Erm, pastebin the error for us.
#1542 [15:28] <JohnEBH> but looking at it, it seems pretty self explanatory. Update your drivers.
#1543 [15:28] <JohnEBH> They even gave you a link...
#1544 [15:28] <JohnEBH> Derp.
#1545 [15:32] <Ian> http://pastebin.com/JKv24ngD
#1546 [15:32] <Ian> :dx
#1547 [15:34] <RBX_pawtracks> xD
#1548 [15:34] <RBX_pawtracks> Smiley Face :D
#1549 [15:34] <RBX_pawtracks> Smiley Face :D
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#1551 [15:34] <Ian> I tried to update the driver, but it didn't change anything
#1552 [15:35] <JohnEBH> ??> Ian win/dxdiag
#1553 [15:35] <VoxelHead> Ian: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1554 [15:35] <JohnEBH> Do that for me ^
#1555 [15:35] <VoxelHead> Ian: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1556 [15:35] <JohnEBH> And that ^
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#1558 [15:36] <Ian> OK
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#1560 [15:36] <noiro_> Can someone help me with Minecraft? I can't run MC because of a completely black screen during login whether it be the native machine or in a virtual one
#1561 [15:37] <JohnEBH> ??> noiro_ win/reinst/bat
#1562 [15:37] <VoxelHead> noiro_: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1563 [15:37] <VoxelHead> noiro_: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1564 [15:37] <JohnEBH> Assuming you're running Windows.
#1565 [15:37] <noiro_> JohnEBH: Running Ubuntu and the virtual machine is Windows 7
#1566 [15:37] <JohnEBH> Ah...
#1567 [15:37] <JohnEBH> ??> noiro_ linux/reinst
#1568 [15:37] <VoxelHead> noiro_: (linux/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1569 [15:37] <VoxelHead> noiro_: (linux/reinst) To do so run the following command in a terminal: rm -rf ~/.minecraft/bin/
#1570 [15:37] <JohnEBH> Try that? ><"
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#1573 [15:38] <JohnEBH> Not very familiar with running MC under linux... Should try it sometime =P
#1574 [15:38] <JohnEBH> I'm guessing Ubuntu 12.04 with OpenJDK?
#1575 [15:38] <Ian> http://pastebin.com/WJvdwvKc
#1576 [15:38] <noiro_> Also, I have tried with openJRE 6 and it worked (very buggy) at first and then I tried to install Sun's Java. Now, it won't load at all. I installed the Sun version on the Windows 7 version
#1577 [15:39] <noiro_> In a native Windows 7 environment, it runs well, but I have been trying to move over to Linux .
#1578 [15:39] <JohnEBH> Sun's Java works best if I heard correctly.
#1579 [15:39] <noiro_> doens't work at all for me. I have the pastebin to prove it
#1580 [15:39] <noiro_> http://pastebin.com/jgGmWX6S
#1581 [15:39] <JohnEBH> Ian, You are aware that you are also low on RAM.
#1582 [15:40] <Ian> I knew that
#1583 [15:40] <Ian> I am planning on expanding soon
#1584 [15:40] <Thrae> ?? linux/java
#1585 [15:40] <noiro_> I gave my virtual windows 7 2GB of RAM while the local machine has 6GB
#1586 [15:40] <Thrae> ?? index
#1587 [15:40] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1588 [15:41] <JohnEBH> Ian, Alright good to hear. Here's your download link: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9033&ProdId=865&lang=eng
#1589 [15:41] <Thrae> ?? java/linux/ubuntu
#1590 [15:41] <VoxelHead> java/linux/ubuntu: To install the Oracle JRE environment in recent editions of Ubuntu, follow the guide here:
#1591 [15:41] <VoxelHead> java/linux/ubuntu: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/how-to-install-java-jre-and-java-plugin.html
#1592 [15:41] <JohnEBH> Ian, Install those and maybe restart. Up to you.
#1593 [15:41] <Ian> OK, I'll try that
#1594 [15:41] <noiro_> Thrae, can you tell me how to remove the old version of JRE first?
#1595 [15:42] <noiro_> and openjdk
#1596 [15:42] <Thrae> noiro_: Eh, you can just not use it
#1597 [15:42] <Thrae> ??< win/gpu/intel
#1598 [15:42] <noiro_> Thrae, open worked before I installed java. I assume they are messing with one another
#1599 [15:42] <Thrae> ?? win/gpu/intel
#1600 [15:42] <JohnEBH> sudo apt-get purge openjdk*
#1601 [15:42] <JohnEBH> For JDK...
#1602 [15:43] <noiro_> I mean jre, I don't know it's full name to purge it or I woul dhave done it myself
#1603 [15:43] <JohnEBH> Right =P
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#1605 [15:49] <noiro_> when I try that link Thrae, it installs Oracle JRE 7
#1606 [15:50] <noiro_> same black screen as usual
#1607 [15:53] <Thrae> noiro_: It's an instruction guide on how to do it through APT, Ubuntu's packaging system.
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#1609 [15:54] <JohnEBH> noiro_, This might help: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ or this: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/download-and-install-sun-java-6-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-easily-with-this-script/
#1610 [15:54] <Guest__> when ever i click on minecraft on my desktop an error message pops up saying that java couldnt create virtual machine how can i fix this?
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#1612 [15:56] <JohnEBH> Guest__, Try reinstalling Java. Go uninstall java first.
#1613 [15:56] <JohnEBH> ??> Guest__ java
#1614 [15:56] <VoxelHead> Guest__: (java) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
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#1616 [15:59] <noiro_> JohnEBH, it is already installed, but it doesn't run Minecraft properly. That is the same package. It will act exactly the same when installed
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#1619 [16:01] <Ian> JohnEBH, it's Ian again. I tried the link you sent me and restarted the computer, but I am getting the same error message as before.
#1620 [16:02] <JohnEBH> Out of ideas.
#1621 [16:02] <Ian> :( I guess I can't run it on this computer then. That stinks.
#1622 [16:03] <Ian> Thanks for trying, anyway. :)
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#1624 [16:06] <Guest__> ok i uninstalled it and reinstalled it what now
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#1626 [16:07] <christian_> i jusgt bought minecraft and it says i am not premium. can anyone help me?
#1627 [16:08] <tikker> did you really JUST bought it?
#1628 [16:08] <Thrae> noiro_: Open up Terminal / Xterm / Console. Type in "which java"
#1629 [16:08] <tikker> usually it's instantly
#1630 [16:08] <christian_> like an half hour ago
#1631 [16:08] <tikker> but it can take 3-5 days
#1632 [16:08] <tikker> before you receive premium status
#1633 [16:08] <tikker> all you can do is wait
#1634 [16:08] <christian_> i bought it with a visa giftcard
#1635 [16:09] <Thrae> christian_: Did you get ANY errors when you tried to buy it this way?
#1636 [16:09] <Boreeas> christian_: Payments can take up to three days to complete. If you don't have premium status by then, check with your bank if the payment actually went through, and see if the card actually permits international payments.
#1637 [16:09] <christian_> yes then i called the card ensurer and they registered it to be used online
#1638 [16:10] <tikker> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1639 [16:10] <tikker> i suggest you wait a few days
#1640 [16:10] <Thrae> christian_: If you want to be sure, check with the card issuer to see if the payment was actually debited.
#1641 [16:10] <JohnEBH> ?? Premium
#1642 [16:10] <VoxelHead> premium: Both Alpha and Beta premium users will get bug fixes, updates, patches, and the final release of the game for free. This has not changed. The only difference between the two is the potential aspect of future expansions beyond final release. Alpha users were promised these future expansions for free, while people that bought it during Beta were not.
#1643 [16:10] <VoxelHead> premium: See also:http://is.gd/4oAkK1
#1644 [16:10] <JohnEBH> ?? index
#1645 [16:10] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1646 [16:10] <christian_> i have been to that website. i boughtt the game and i have a receipt for it
#1647 [16:10] <JohnEBH> ?? payment
#1648 [16:10] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#1649 [16:10] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#1650 [16:11] <christian_> how have you guya done it?
#1651 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Paypal, two years back, was instant
#1652 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Of course, prepaid cards have been known to be problematic even back then
#1653 [16:12] <christian_> i didnt want to use my credit card because my mom said it might charge more
#1654 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
#1655 [16:12] <GreyVulpine> Prepaid cards cause more problems.
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#1657 [16:13] <Thrae> Using a prepaid card with an international seller is a good idea, but only if your credit card company does not support virtual credit card numbers...which many do, now.
#1658 [16:13] <Sylwek150c> I can't connect to my mojang account, my friend added to account secret questions, but when I write this on my computer www say Could not confirm your identity. Try again, pls help. I can't change my e-mail to zaxer1@interia.eu ;x My email : marcinek199x3@o2.pl
#1659 [16:13] <Thrae> Although I'd rather use a credit card through Paypal than a prepaid card. Overall I find the prepaid cards too problematic.
#1660 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> Sylwek150c - Please contact Mojang through help.mojang.com
#1661 [16:14] <christian_> i did not put money on moneybookers but i made an account on it.. and i used it to buy the game
#1662 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> As we're community volunteers here, we have no access to account information
#1663 [16:14] <Sylwek150c> Thx
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#1665 [16:16] <Sylwek150c> And then what?
#1666 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Sylwek150c - Do you see the topic "My email account has changed"?
#1667 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Click on that, then the last link "Here" to bring up the form to contact Mojang with
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#1669 [16:18] <Orangyvv_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
#1670 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> Please don't do that.
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#1672 [16:19] <xfenoid> Hello ?
#1673 [16:19] <Orangyvv_> I'm sosososo sorry.
#1674 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#1675 [16:19] <Sylwek150c> but jumps Since you are logging in from this computer for the first time we need you to confirm your identity before you can continue. This is to make sure that your account isn't used without your authorization. To confirm your identity, please answer the questions below.
#1676 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Sylwek150c - That.. doesn't look right
#1677 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> Sylwek150c - I've never had a page like that
#1678 [16:19] <xfenoid> I got a problem with my minecraft account , i forgot my password ist been a long time a go i played minecraft , and they send no email to me help please
#1679 [16:19] <xfenoid> I got a problem with my minecraft account , i forgot my password ist been a long time a go i played minecraft , and they send no email to me help please
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#1681 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> xfenoid - Have you tried a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email accounts you own?
#1682 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> Then a http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword on the username that you think you have premium with?
#1683 [16:20] <christian_> what could i do to make sure i bought minecraft?
#1684 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> What is your username?
#1685 [16:20] <xfenoid> Yes i did
#1686 [16:20] <xfenoid> xfenoid
#1687 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> !paid xfenoid
#1688 [16:21] <Sylwek150c> Wpisuje dobra odpowiedz i... Could not confirm your identity. Try again.
#1689 [16:21] <xfenoid> Whats now ?
#1690 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> xfenoid - Wait and check all your email accounts.
#1691 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> There'll be an email sent with a link you can use to reset your password with
#1692 [16:21] <xfenoid> i done over 30 times :(
#1693 [16:21] <xfenoid> theres no email
#1694 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Then you haven't checked the right email account
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#1696 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Use: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new to contact mojang
#1697 [16:22] <xfenoid> or i forgot the email i took for the account too :D
#1698 [16:22] <ThatSnail> Having some problems getting the Single Player Commands mod to work with MCP, anyone know about this?
#1699 [16:23] <GreyVulpine> ThatSnail - You'll be better off asking in #risucraft
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#1701 [16:23] <ThatSnail> Ah, thanks
#1702 [16:23] <ThatSnail> Ah, thanks
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#1704 [16:25] <xfenoid> GreyVulpine What happen when i forgot the email too ? :o
#1705 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> Then only Mojang can change the email account for you
#1706 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> As we're just volunteers here, we have no access to account information
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#1708 [16:26] <xfenoid> Okay thanks a Lot mate
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#1711 [16:37] <skyboy> vox should have that link. perhaps under contact/mojang
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#1713 [16:47] <Adrian> Okay, hello? I seem to have a problem with setting my Minecraft memory. Regardless of what Java control panel setting, batch files or other things I try to set memory, My 64-bit Java automatically takes 1829 megabytes, and more in task manager. Any help on that?
#1714 [16:48] <Adrian> I've tried playing without mods and/or texture packs, and also using custom launchers. Regardless, my Java seems to always use all the RAM I have then pages to disk, severely dropping my framerate. I did try to set it at higher than default, but lowering it never worked.
#1715 [16:50] <skyboy> http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/Intel-MC.bat
#1716 [16:50] <skyboy> that bat shows you how to limit memory
#1717 [16:50] <skyboy> that one limits to 800 MB
#1718 [16:50] <Adrian> Tried it before.
#1719 [16:50] <Boreeas> Adrian: What settings are you using?
#1720 [16:50] <Adrian> Doesn't work
#1721 [16:51] <Adrian> -Xmx1024M -Xms512M, among other settings.
#1722 [16:51] <Boreeas> Hmm, looks good
#1723 [16:51] <Boreeas> Could you take a screenshot of the task manager and Minecrafts ingame debug screen?
#1724 [16:51] <Adrian> But my Javaw.exe doesn't respect any settings I give it!
#1725 [16:51] <Adrian> All right, one moment.
#1726 [16:53] <skyboy> what version of java?
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#1728 [16:54] <Adrian> The very latest 64-bit one. I forgot which, but it's probably 7.015
#1729 [16:54] <Adrian> Also, screenshots: http://puu.sh/Iywm and http://puu.sh/Iyws
#1730 [16:54] <skyboy> 1.7y15?
#1731 [16:54] <skyboy> u*
#1732 [16:55] <skyboy> ?? java/1.7
#1733 [16:55] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#1734 [16:55] <Adrian> 1.7.0_05
#1735 [16:55] <skyboy> potential issues may arise from using it
#1736 [16:55] <Adrian> Oh, should I downgrade, then?
#1737 [16:55] <Temujen> New to Minecraft, trying to register and buy, but it looks like someone else has already setup an account using my email. Any suggestions?
#1738 [16:55] <skyboy> ?? java/jre6u31
#1739 [16:56] <skyboy> ?? java/jre6u29
#1740 [16:56] <VoxelHead> java/jre6u29: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#1741 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Temujen - Use: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#1742 [16:56] <Adrian> Oh, thanks!
#1743 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> That'll get you the username that's associated with that email
#1744 [16:56] <GreyVulpine> Then you can use: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword to reset the password with that username
#1745 [16:56] <Adrian> I'll try uninstalling the one I have and getting this in a minute.
#1746 [16:57] <Boreeas> I don't know, that problem looks more like a JVM problem and not a Minecraft-having-problems-with-Java7 issue.
#1747 [16:57] <skyboy> with any luck the downgrade will also properly respect the memory limits
#1748 [16:57] <Boreeas> But it can't hurt to try it
#1749 [16:57] <Temujen> GreyVulpine - Did both of those actually. It provided a username thats definitely not mine. Would like to figure out how to delete that account so I can start over.
#1750 [16:57] <skyboy> well, the instructions for restricting memory are for 1.6, not 1.7
#1751 [16:57] <GreyVulpine> As for that, you'll need to contact Mojang directly.
#1752 [16:57] <skyboy> what i believe happened is that in 1.7 the switches changed names
#1753 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> Temujen - Use: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new -- Though we can't promise anything. Response time is a couple months
#1754 [16:58] <Adrian> Hm
#1755 [16:58] <Temujen> Thanks
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#1757 [16:58] <GreyVulpine> As we're just volunteers here, we don't know if Mojang can do anything about it
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#1759 [16:59] <computerproblem> everytime i play minecraft after a few minutes my computer will randomly go into hibernation...how do i fix this?
#1760 [16:59] <Adrian> Laptop?
#1761 [16:59] <computerproblem> yes
#1762 [16:59] <Adrian> Control panel
#1763 [16:59] <Adrian> Power options
#1764 [16:59] <Adrian> I'm not very sure at that step, since I don't have a laptop.
#1765 [17:00] <Adrian> But it probably goes into Hibernation to save power or cool down.
#1766 [17:00] <computerproblem> so my laptop is over heating?
#1767 [17:01] <skyboy> not if it's hibernating
#1768 [17:01] <Adrian> No idea. To find out about that, try installing some monitoring program, like Coretemp
#1769 [17:01] <Boreeas> Maybe. Does your laptop become unusually hot?
#1770 [17:01] <computerproblem> well when i was playing it
#1771 [17:01] <Boreeas> You should install a monitoring program, and if overheating is reported, try cleaning the vents.
#1772 [17:01] <skyboy> overheating should invoke an emergency shut down that prevents you from turning it back on for several minutes
#1773 [17:01] <computerproblem> i felt it on the left side and it was pretty hot
#1774 [17:02] <Boreeas> Yeah, that sounds like an overheating issue
#1775 [17:02] <Adrian> "Pretty hot" may not be too hot for the computer.
#1776 [17:02] <Adrian> It's worth to be sure.
#1777 [17:02] <skyboy> yeah, 150 F is relatively normal for a computer. perhaps not a laptop, however
#1778 [17:03] <computerproblem> going to get coretemp
#1779 [17:03] * GreyVulpine winces
#1779 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> Depends.. on the component
#1780 [17:03] <Adrian> Coretemp only provides CPU temperature, mind you.
#1781 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> !fc 150
#1782 [17:03] <skyboy> grey - yeah, my computer gets up there. so far there's been no damage since it regularly runs that hot and it's 10 years old
#1783 [17:03] <Boreeas> GreyVulpine: 65°C
#1784 [17:03] <GreyVulpine> A CPU running at 150F, youch
#1785 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Yeah..
#1786 [17:04] <computerproblem> ok so how do i fix this for a laptop?
#1787 [17:04] <Eddie> 65C? My i7 barely goes above 50c
#1788 [17:04] <skyboy> i try to keep it around 115 with speedfan, which works pretty well
#1789 [17:04] <skyboy> i have a celeron
#1790 [17:04] <GreyVulpine> Mine's 45-50 on load
#1791 [17:04] <computerproblem> my laptop is a hp pavillion btw :/
#1792 [17:05] <Adrian> Maybe you can clean your laptop
#1793 [17:05] <skyboy> same brand as my desktop. nice.
#1794 [17:05] <Adrian> Or undervolt it
#1795 [17:05] <computerproblem> undervolt it?
#1796 [17:05] <skyboy> but yes, clean the laptop, set graphics on low, view distance: short
#1797 [17:05] <skyboy> undervolt: no
#1798 [17:05] <Adrian> That's like overclocking, only you give it less voltage
#1799 [17:05] <Adrian> It will make it unstable
#1800 [17:05] <Boreeas> Your manufacturer should provide detailed instructions, but generally, going over the grid on the back side of your laptop with a vacuum cleaner should be sufficient
#1801 [17:05] <Adrian> Unless you underclock as well
#1802 [17:05] <Adrian> Well, it MAY make it unstable
#1803 [17:06] <Boreeas> Also, my laptop is 47.5°C right now
#1804 [17:06] <computerproblem> how can u tell?
#1805 [17:06] <Adrian> Tell what?
#1806 [17:06] <computerproblem> the temp of ur computer.
#1807 [17:06] <Boreeas> I got a monitor on top of my screen
#1808 [17:06] <computerproblem> laptop
#1809 [17:06] <computerproblem> etc.
#1810 [17:06] <skyboy> coretemp, speedfan, various other utilities
#1811 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Various monitoring software can poll the integrated temp sensors in your computer
#1812 [17:06] <Adrian> Yeah
#1813 [17:07] <computerproblem> ok what monitoring software should i get
#1814 [17:07] <skyboy> coretemp or speedfan
#1815 [17:07] <computerproblem> does it matter which 1 if i have a laptop?
#1816 [17:07] <skyboy> no
#1817 [17:07] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1818 [17:07] <Boreeas> Not really
#1819 [17:08] <computerproblem> using the coretemp thing now.
#1820 [17:08] <skyboy> what tmperature does it report?
#1821 [17:09] <computerproblem> its installing
#1822 [17:09] <Adrian> I suggest playing Minecraft until it auto-hibernates, then opening the computer and reading the temperature logs. If it's higher than usual for your CPU, then you're overheating.
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#1824 [17:09] <Whatwasit> Hello.
#1825 [17:10] <Adrian> Hi!
#1826 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#1827 [17:10] <Whatwasit> I actually need support from Mojang/Minecraft, I got redirected here.
#1828 [17:10] <Adrian> Aaand Downgrading java didn't help. Still set to 1820MB
#1829 [17:10] <computerproblem> fricken installed a yahoo toolbar i didnt even want that ..lol.
#1830 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Whatwasit - With what problem?
#1831 [17:10] <Whatwasit> A username.
#1832 [17:10] <GreyVulpine> Could you elaborate?
#1833 [17:11] <Adrian> Yes, you should pay attention to check boxes, computerproblem. Sorry!
#1834 [17:11] <computerproblem> ok i got it
#1835 [17:11] <Whatwasit> Yes sure, I've registered an account without knowing that the name I filled in would be my in-game name. This name is my real-life name and I don't want others to know that.
#1836 [17:11] <Boreeas> Adrian: Hmm, I would like to see that directly. Do you have teamviewer?
#1837 [17:11] <Whatwasit> (I've bought minecraft already)
#1838 [17:12] <Adrian> I don't, but I can get it
#1839 [17:12] <skyboy> you can email mojang and attempt to get your username changed, but no promises
#1840 [17:12] <computerproblem> it says cpu#0:is 64 degrees c but changing little by little like 60-67
#1841 [17:12] <Adrian> Hold on.
#1842 [17:12] <Whatwasit> Do you have any mail address for me?
#1843 [17:12] <Adrian> Do you know your CPU model, computerproblem?
#1844 [17:12] <GreyVulpine> Whatwasit - Try contacting Mojang directly through http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1845 [17:12] <skyboy> dude, clean the vents on your laptop. that's too hot for idle
#1846 [17:12] <Boreeas> Whatwasit: http://help.mojang.com/customers/portal/emails/new
#1847 [17:12] <Whatwasit> Thanks alot, I really appreciate the fast help.
#1848 [17:12] <computerproblem> dont mean to sound stupid but whats a cpu model. like hp? bla bla?
#1849 [17:12] <Whatwasit> I wish you all a very good night.
#1850 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Whatwasit - Their usual policy on username changes is: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329522-how-do-i-create-a-username-
#1851 [17:13] <computerproblem> how do i clean my vents?
#1852 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Whatwasit - So you really do need to have a good reason
#1853 [17:13] <Adrian> It's the model of your central processing unit. You can check it by right-clicking my computer and choosing properties, for one.
#1854 [17:13] <skyboy> vacuum cleaner can usually remove most/all of the dirt
#1855 [17:13] <computerproblem> its 56 c now
#1856 [17:13] <Whatwasit> Yes, I do have a good reason. It is my real-life name, and don't want others to know that.
#1857 [17:13] * GreyVulpine nods
#1857 [17:13] <GreyVulpine> Good luck Whatwasit
#1858 [17:13] <Whatwasit> Thanks alot.
#1859 [17:14] <VoxelHead> Mmm Whatwasit.
#1860 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead, shut up
#1861 [17:14] <VoxelHead> fine
#1862 [17:14] <skyboy> can't tell if that was a bot response or not
#1863 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead is a bot
#1864 [17:14] <Boreeas> It was
#1865 [17:14] <skyboy> only a bot?
#1866 [17:14] <GreyVulpine> ?? bot
#1867 [17:14] <Boreeas> ?? bot
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#1869 [17:14] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1870 [17:14] <Adrian> Okay, I have Teamviewer, but I'm not familiar with it. Do I host a meeting?
#1871 [17:14] <skyboy> yes, i know
#1872 [17:15] <mib_nhdw62> Hello
#1873 [17:15] <skyboy> but it's possible to integrate client and bot, so i'm verifying it's not
#1874 [17:15] <skyboy> ?? irc/mibnick
#1875 [17:15] <VoxelHead> irc/mibnick: You have apparently been given a random name by the web-based client you are using. Please select an intelligible one by thinking of a name, and typing "/NICK YourNiftyNewName". Thank you.
#1876 [17:15] <computerproblem> ok sorry i got lost i have the temp of my laptop what now?its swapping between 54 an 55 c
#1877 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> computerproblem - Run minecraft, let us know how hot it gets
#1878 [17:15] <computerproblem> kk
#1879 [17:15] <GreyVulpine> If it's just 55C on idle, it's already plenty hot.
#1880 [17:15] <skyboy> it's more than plenty hot
#1881 [17:16] <skyboy> it was 65 C earlier
#1882 [17:16] <computerproblem> so it is overheating?
#1883 [17:16] <skyboy> i only hit that hot at full load for over an hour
#1884 [17:16] <Boreeas> Adrian: No. PM me with this information https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31575034/mchelp/teamviewer.png
#1885 [17:16] <Adrian> Hmm, sure.
#1886 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> computerproblem - Very very likely
#1887 [17:17] <computerproblem> boreeas were u talking to me?
#1888 [17:17] <Boreeas> computerproblem: No, to Adrian
#1889 [17:18] <computerproblem> so use a vaccum?
#1890 [17:18] <computerproblem> how would that work for a laptop lol
#1891 [17:18] <skyboy> there are vents on the sides and bottom
#1892 [17:18] <skyboy> you simply run a vacuum cleaner hose over those
#1893 [17:18] <computerproblem> alrighty ill brb.
#1894 [17:20] <computerproblem> im going to set my laptop down and put it on the vents how long should i let it stay there for?
#1895 [17:21] * Winorown77 [Winorown77@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1896 [17:21] <Adrian> Not very long. It helps to close the laptop
#1897 [17:21] <Winorown77> hello
#1898 [17:21] <Adrian> Hi there.
#1899 [17:21] <Winorown77> I need some help with my client
#1900 [17:21] <computerproblem> ok ill be back Adrian thx for helping
#1901 [17:21] <Adrian> Good luck, computerproblems
#1902 [17:21] <Adrian> Ask away, Winorown77
#1903 [17:22] <Winorown77> I deleted my mincraft folder because I thought it was too messy and now when i try to log in it says "login failed' not downloded
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#1905 [17:22] <Adrian> It seems that I...Forgot how to properly PM on IRC. Did you get anything, Boreeas?
#1906 [17:23] <Boreeas> No, sorry
#1907 [17:23] <Adrian> Winorown77: Can you log into Minecraft.net without any problem?
#1908 [17:23] <Winorown77> I cant
#1909 [17:23] <Boreeas> Try /query or /msg
#1910 [17:23] <Winorown77> It says account unknoun
#1911 [17:23] <Adrian> Then you probably forgot your account name or it was deleted.
#1912 [17:24] <Winorown77> I was playing minecraft yesterday with my friends though.
#1913 [17:24] <Winorown77> If it was deleted how can i get it back
#1914 [17:24] <Adrian> Nope, trying to send messages to Boreeas ends up with SYSTEM calling his name in the channel
#1915 [17:24] <Boreeas> Adrian: In this case, join #secretroom
#1916 [17:25] <Adrian> You may want to make sure you didn't forget your name, Winorown77
#1917 [17:25] <skyboy> Winorown77: what was your username?
#1918 [17:25] <Winorown77> my name is winorown77
#1919 [17:26] <Winorown77> on minecraft.
#1920 [17:26] <skyboy> !paid Winorown77
#1921 [17:26] <skyboy> your account is still valid
#1922 [17:26] <skyboy> check your password
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#1924 [17:26] <Winorown77> ok ill check it
#1925 [17:28] <conner> i accidentally deleted my C:\Documents and Settings\Ed\Application Data\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar\ is there anything i can do about this/
#1926 [17:28] <conner> ?
#1927 [17:28] <Winorown77> Oh! I used to have my password remembered but when i cleared my thing it took it off of the client. I was using a password from my email.
#1928 [17:28] <Winorown77> Thanks skyboy and adrian
#1929 [17:28] <Winorown77> bye
#1930 [17:29] <skyboy> conner: just launch minecraft again
#1931 [17:29] <skyboy> it will be redownlaoded
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#1933 [17:30] <computerproblem> adrian u there?
#1934 [17:30] <conner> it says done loading but it wont do anything else
#1935 [17:30] <Adrian> I am
#1936 [17:30] <computerproblem> its in the 40s c now
#1937 [17:30] <computerproblem> still to much?
#1938 [17:30] <skyboy> that's better, but i think it may still overheat
#1939 [17:30] <conner> it wont progress anymore
#1940 [17:31] <skyboy> conner: restart
#1941 [17:31] <computerproblem> alright im going to start playing ill tell u if it starts to rise
#1942 [17:31] <skyboy> if it continues to fail, delete the entire bin folder
#1943 [17:31] <skyboy> it will rise
#1944 [17:31] <computerproblem> but will it rise a lot :O?
#1945 [17:31] <conner> what do i do then if i do delete it
#1946 [17:31] <skyboy> we don't know yet
#1947 [17:31] <skyboy> conner: launch it and log in
#1948 [17:32] <skyboy> it will redownload all of the files
#1949 [17:32] <computerproblem> who wants to be a volunteer and test to see if my server is able to work for people except me?
#1950 [17:32] <computerproblem> other than me*
#1951 [17:32] <skyboy> what's your IP?
#1952 [17:32] <skyboy> +port
#1953 [17:33] <conner> are u talking to me?
#1954 [17:33] <skyboy> no, conner
#1955 [17:33] <conner> oh but it still isnt making any progress
#1956 [17:34] <skyboy> do you have AVG?
#1957 [17:34] <conner> whats AVG
#1958 [17:34] <computerproblem> when i click on my server skyboy it says cant reach server o.o...?
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#1960 [17:34] <skyboy> is your server running, computerproblem?
#1961 [17:35] <skyboy> conner: what antivirus/firewalls do you have?
#1962 [17:35] <computerproblem> it was working b4..
#1963 [17:35] <computerproblem> i anti i have norton 360
#1964 [17:35] <conner> microsoft security essentials
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#1966 [17:36] <computerproblem> back i 4got to run the mc server thing
#1967 [17:36] <conner> is the anti virus i have
#1968 [17:36] <skyboy> conner: have you closed the launcher and started it again?
#1969 [17:37] <computerproblem> sky how do i pm u? and its up and running again
#1970 [17:37] <conner> the minecraft launcher?
#1971 [17:37] <computerproblem> the launcher and the server thingy o.o
#1972 [17:37] <skyboy> computerproblem: /msg or /query
#1973 [17:37] <skyboy> conner: minecraft.exe is the launcher
#1974 [17:37] <skyboy> you click that to run minecraft
#1975 [17:37] <computerproblem> sky did u get that?
#1976 [17:38] <skyboy> computerproblem: yes
#1977 [17:40] <conner> is it ok if i downloaded the minecraft_server.exe
#1978 [17:40] <skyboy> computerproblem: your server works fine for other people
#1979 [17:40] <computerproblem> adrian/sky my temp is at 68-70 o.o
#1980 [17:40] <computerproblem> thx dude
#1981 [17:41] <skyboy> conner: if you intend to set up your own server, yes
#1982 [17:41] <Adrian> That's still a bit not well
#1983 [17:41] <computerproblem> 71 c
#1984 [17:41] <computerproblem> 72 c...
#1985 [17:41] <skyboy> we don't need degree by degree updates
#1986 [17:41] <skyboy> your laptop doesn't have sufficient cooling
#1987 [17:41] <computerproblem> sorry x.x.
#1988 [17:41] <Adrian> I'm sorry, can't offer much help past that
#1989 [17:41] <computerproblem> should i just get a fan?
#1990 [17:42] <skyboy> a fan won't do any good for a laptop
#1991 [17:42] <conner> ok, nut have i lost all my worlds
#1992 [17:42] <skyboy> coogle "laptop cooling dock"
#1993 [17:42] <conner> but*
#1994 [17:42] <skyboy> did you only delete the bin folder?
#1995 [17:43] <skyboy> the .minecraft folder contained a /saves/ directory that had all of your worlds
#1996 [17:43] <computerproblem> adrian so theres nothing i can do?
#1997 [17:43] <skyboy> it also had a /bin/ directory, which is the only one i told you to delete
#1998 [17:43] <Adrian> A cooling dock or a better computer would help
#1999 [17:43] <Adrian> But there's not much you can do, sorry.
#2000 [17:44] <Adrian> Unless you set Minecraft to low settings
#2001 [17:44] <conner> i deleted the minecraft file in the bin folder
#2002 [17:44] <skyboy> then your worlds are fin
#2003 [17:44] <skyboy> fine*
#2004 [17:44] <conner> i didnt delete that but i deleted everything in the file
#2005 [17:44] <computerproblem> 77 c thats fantastic :/
#2006 [17:44] <skyboy> everything in the .minecraft folder?
#2007 [17:45] <skyboy> if you did, you deleted your worlds
#2008 [17:45] <conner> no all the things in the minecraft file in the bin folder
#2009 [17:46] <skyboy> the minecraft file is a .jar. you can't open it like a folder
#2010 [17:46] <conner> yes except i can open it with 7-zip
#2011 [17:46] <skyboy> well, that would still have caused a redownlaod, so whatever
#2012 [17:46] <skyboy> your worlds would be fine, however
#2013 [17:47] <skyboy> if they are gone, you deleted the wrong thing
#2014 [17:47] <conner> if what are gone
#2015 [17:47] <skyboy> ...
#2016 [17:47] <skyboy> does it work?
#2017 [17:48] <conner> minecraft?
#2018 [17:48] <skyboy> no, your car.
#2019 [17:48] <conner> jar*?
#2020 [17:48] <skyboy> YES, minecraft. the thing you came here for help with.
#2021 [17:49] <skyboy> can you run it and log in?
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#2023 [17:50] <conner> i can log in but the screen says updating minecraft and the loading bar is almost done it says done loading but nothing happens
#2024 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Force update through the launcher's options menu
#2025 [17:50] <skyboy> delete everythign in the bin folder
#2026 [17:50] <Tazebot> Does anyone know why when I load the classic version of Minecraft in browser it shows a white screen after the java logo?
#2027 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Tazebot - Running java 7?
#2028 [17:51] <Tazebot> Yes.
#2029 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> That'll be why
#2030 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Classic isn't compatible
#2031 [17:51] <skyboy> uninstall it and reinstall java 6
#2032 [17:51] <Tazebot> Oh.
#2033 [17:51] <Tazebot> Thank you :)
#2034 [17:51] <skyboy> ?? java/jreu29
#2035 [17:51] <skyboy> ?? java/jre6u29
#2036 [17:51] <VoxelHead> java/jre6u29: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#2037 [17:51] <skyboy> i hate typos
#2038 [17:51] <conner> ok done now what
#2039 [17:52] <skyboy> close minecraft and open it again
#2040 [17:52] <Tazebot> Cheers Skyboy, helped a load! :)
#2041 [17:52] <skyboy> it will redownlaod all of the files, and you should arrive at the menu
#2042 [17:52] <conner> :D we are up and running again :) thank you!
#2043 [17:53] <Tazebot> Bye! Thanks again for that:)
#2044 [17:54] <conner> i know this might not be able to happen but can you help me install single player commands?
#2045 [17:54] <skyboy> read the instructions on the page you downloaded it from
#2046 [17:55] <computerproblem> the texture pack im using for some reason has 2 gigantic holes in some areas where i can see the ores and what not but i fall repeatedly through them but i can pop out
#2047 [17:55] <computerproblem> what do i do o.o?
#2048 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Close minecraft down, load world again
#2049 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Sounds like a chunk error in the map
#2050 [17:55] <conner> i have but when i try to move the playerhelper$ and player helper.c it says not implemented
#2051 [17:55] <computerproblem> 82 degrees c wtf...
#2052 [17:56] <skyboy> wouldn't walking outside the range of the pit then back also fix it, grey?
#2053 [17:56] <skyboy> since it would be reloaded from the server
#2054 [17:57] <skyboy> computerproblem: really, invest in a "laptop cooling dock" search google for them
#2055 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Depends
#2056 [17:57] <skyboy> you need one, badly
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#2058 [17:57] <conner> sky boy did you see my latest message?
#2059 [17:57] <conner> sky boy did you see my latest message?
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#2061 [17:57] <skyboy> yes - try using winrar instead of 7-zip
#2062 [17:58] <conner> i have that installed but when i try to open the folder or whatever it doesnt give me the option to use winrar
#2063 [17:59] <skyboy> go to open with, and choose "choose program" then find winrar
#2064 [17:59] <VoxelHead> Choose Life.
#2065 [18:00] <skyboy> if it's not in that list, you must click "browse" and navigate to the winrar exe in program files
#2066 [18:00] <skyboy> ignore vox, he's a bot
#2067 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead, shut up
#2068 [18:00] <VoxelHead> hai!
#2069 [18:00] <skyboy> a disobedient bot
#2070 [18:01] <conner> umm now my minecraft gos to a black screen
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#2072 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> conner - Has it ever worked before?
#2073 [18:02] <conner> what minecraft?
#2074 [18:02] <GreyVulpine> Did you forget to delete meta-inf?
#2075 [18:04] <conner> i did but it says meta inf is using files right now and i cant delete it what files does it use
#2076 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Then you forgot to close down minecraft before doing this
#2077 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Please do so
#2078 [18:05] <conner> i did
#2079 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Using windows?
#2080 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Press Ctrl+Shift+esc to bring up the task manager. Go to the processes tab at the top. Look for a "Java.exe" process and end it.
#2081 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Then try deleting meta-inf agani
#2082 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> again, even
#2083 [18:06] <conner> i did but i deleted it on 7-zip and i meant to use win rar i tryed to delete it on that but it says its using a file that i have closed already
#2084 [18:07] <JohnEBH> If you have the file open in two file managers, that also causes problems.
#2085 [18:08] <JohnEBH> Make sure thereone or the other has it open and delete from there.
#2086 [18:08] <JohnEBH> Fail ^
#2087 [18:10] <computerproblem> does anyone know a good laptop cooling dock?
#2088 [18:10] <computerproblem> 12-15inch
#2089 [18:10] <computerproblem> dont search for one just if they have one.
#2090 [18:10] <computerproblem> they as in you guys
#2091 [18:10] <Adrian> Sorry.
#2092 [18:11] <Adrian> My mother uses this pillow-thing which is heat absorbent and with a fan. Seems to work with her quite well
#2093 [18:11] <Adrian> But I have no idea what's it called.
#2094 [18:11] <Adrian> Maybe if you hang around in twelve hours, I'll tell you
#2095 [18:11] <Adrian> But now i have to go to sleep. Good night!
#2096 [18:12] <conner> it says plugins(s) failed to load:spc_worldedit.class please refer to installation instructions
#2097 [18:12] <conner> what do i do
#2098 [18:12] <computerproblem> conner what is your problem?
#2099 [18:12] <skyboy> refer t othe installation instructions
#2100 [18:12] <computerproblem> server hosting problem cant play the game?
#2101 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> He's trying to install Single Player Commands
#2102 [18:12] <skyboy> the ones you are supposed to be following
#2103 [18:12] <computerproblem> ohhhhhhhhhhh
#2104 [18:13] <conner> yes thank you grey :)
#2105 [18:13] <Boreeas> Who uses underscore-lowercase names for class name D:
#2106 [18:13] <skyboy> ..what triggered vox to do that?
#2107 [18:13] <conner> what do i do?
#2108 [18:14] <Boreeas> The repeated 'h's
#2109 [18:14] <skyboy> ah
#2110 [18:14] <conner> what
#2111 [18:14] <skyboy> ?? only/you
#2112 [18:14] <VoxelHead> only/you: You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#2113 [18:14] <VoxelHead> only/you: If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#2114 [18:15] <conner> ah......ok....
#2115 [18:15] <conner> hellloooooooo
#2116 [18:15] <computerproblem> hi
#2117 [18:15] <conner> afj l
#2118 [18:15] <conner> what do i do
#2119 [18:16] <conner> computerproblem are you my helper?
#2120 [18:16] <skyboy> follow the instructions
#2121 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Delete the bin folder. Run minecraft again so you get fresh files
#2122 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Download the mod's files, read the instructions on how to install it
#2123 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Then do it, while minecraft is not running
#2124 [18:17] <conner> do i still delete the bin files?
#2125 [18:17] * retroelectron [retroelectron@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2126 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2127 [18:18] <retroelectron> hello...i'm having some issues with java pegging the CPU at 100% running minecraft on Ubuntu 12.04
#2128 [18:18] <retroelectron> i saw a lot of similar issues on forums but haven't found a workable solution
#2129 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, haven't touched *nix in a while.
#2130 [18:19] <skyboy> there's an option in-game to limit the frame rate i believe
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#2132 [18:19] <skyboy> that will prevent minecraft from running as fast as possible and limit it to around 30 FPS
#2133 [18:19] <retroelectron> i don't believe it's an issue with the frame rate
#2134 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> What distro of java are you running with?
#2135 [18:20] <retroelectron> the java and xorg processes both just skyrocket in cpu usage
#2136 [18:20] <skyboy> what framerate do you get in-game? press shift+F3 to bring up the debug menu
#2137 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Are you using OpenJDK or Oracle's Java?
#2138 [18:20] <retroelectron> i have tried sun oracle 6 u 33 and oracle java 7 u 05
#2139 [18:20] <retroelectron> i will look skyboy
#2140 [18:20] <VoxelHead> i like them -_-
#2141 [18:21] <Spencer> Whenever I start minecraft, my computer goes to blue screen.
#2142 [18:21] <skyboy> that's a graphics driver issue, spencer
#2143 [18:21] <skyboy> ??> Spencer win.dxdiag
#2144 [18:21] <skyboy> ??> Spencer win/dxdiag
#2145 [18:21] <VoxelHead> Spencer: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2146 [18:21] <VoxelHead> Spencer: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2147 [18:21] <VoxelHead> bye Iaccidentally
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#2149 [18:22] <retroelectron> i'm running around 55 FPS
#2150 [18:22] <adinth> hello, is anyone using craftbook? is the minecart features working?
#2151 [18:22] <retroelectron> if this helps, i've duplicated this issue across pretty much every combination of video settings
#2152 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> adinth - This isn't a channel for craftbook support
#2153 [18:23] <adinth> sorry :/ their channel kicks me out the moment i get in
#2154 [18:23] <skyboy> retro: try changing performance to power saver
#2155 [18:24] <retroelectron> in the graphics card settings?
#2156 [18:24] <retroelectron> in the graphics card settings?
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#2158 [18:24] <skyboy> no, in minecraft
#2159 [18:24] <retroelectron> ok
#2160 [18:24] <Spencer> http://pastebin.com/G2qMHAWh
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#2162 [18:25] <retroelectron> didn't make a difference...frame rate is now jumping between 2 and 30ish but xorg and java are both still using 80-100% of a core each
#2163 [18:26] <retroelectron> 3.3 ghz core 2 duo, 4 gigs of ram, geforce 8800gt btw
#2164 [18:26] <skyboy> oh my, spencer. you only have 64 MB of dedicated vRAM
#2165 [18:26] <skyboy> i'm honestly not sure there's much we can do to help
#2166 [18:26] <retroelectron> ok, thank you
#2167 [18:26] <retroelectron> if i find a solution i will be sure to publish it
#2168 [18:27] <skyboy> retroelectron: i was talking to spencer
#2169 [18:27] <retroelectron> oh, my bad
#2170 [18:27] <Spencer> Is there anyway to increase it?
#2171 [18:28] <skyboy> it would require purchasing a graphics card
#2172 [18:28] <skyboy> short of that, you can try to update your drivers
#2173 [18:28] <skyboy> ??> Spencer gpu/intel
#2174 [18:28] <VoxelHead> Spencer: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2175 [18:30] <skyboy> retroelectron: for your issue, i'm not certain what the problem is. but minecraft is a resource-intensive game
#2176 [18:30] <skyboy> it may simply be that
#2177 [18:30] <Elystus> ??< demo
#2178 [18:30] <retroelectron> i will continue to research this...i can run minecraft on Windows on the same rig without this problem
#2179 [18:30] <skyboy> unless you were previously able to play it with a much lower CPU utilization
#2180 [18:30] <retroelectron> i'm thinking it's a conflict between xorg and minecraft
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#2182 [18:31] <skyboy> it's possible, but if they both run fine, i'm not certainly exactly what it could be
#2183 [18:31] <skyboy> 55 FPS isn't a bad framerate
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#2185 [18:31] <retroelectron> yeah, it's playable and fine
#2186 [18:31] <retroelectron> it just maxes out the CPU, other applications won't run properly
#2187 [18:31] <retroelectron> alt+tab takes 20-30 seconds, stuff like that
#2188 [18:32] <skyboy> you could attempt to lower the priority
#2189 [18:32] <retroelectron> i'm saving that as a last resort, i really don't want to mess around with the x server's priority
#2190 [18:32] <retroelectron> maybe it's Compiz / Unity window manager
#2191 [18:32] <skyboy> but if another application began sucking up resources, minecraft would stall out, perhaps only briefly, resulting in stuttering
#2192 [18:32] <retroelectron> right
#2193 [18:33] <retroelectron> i'm going to change to another UI and see if that helps
#2194 [18:33] <retroelectron> brb, thanks again for your help
#2195 [18:33] <Spencer> alrigh thanks
#2196 [18:34] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go T_T
#2197 [18:35] <skyboy> it would be nice to know what his triggers were so i'm not left confused
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#2199 [18:39] <retroelectron> using the Ubuntu 2D session type (unity desktop without Compiz) got xorg to stop over-using processor
#2200 [18:39] <retroelectron> but Java is still pegging a core at 100%
#2201 [18:45] <noiro_> Hey guys, is anyone famalier with Linux lwjgl libraries? Supposedly that fixes the blakc screen
#2202 [18:46] <retroelectron> i did some research about that earlier today / yesterday
#2203 [18:46] <retroelectron> everything i read said for the black screen, your solution would be to use a different (i.e. Oracle) version of Java
#2204 [18:47] <retroelectron> the lwjgl libraries will resolve the sticking keys issue on Linux
#2205 [18:47] <retroelectron> don't use the most recent version though...they break the game
#2206 [18:47] <noiro_> Well, I'm getting the black screen of death so...
#2207 [18:47] <noiro_> I'm hoping that fixes it
#2208 [18:48] <retroelectron> can i ask what distro / java version you're using? i went through all this over the last day and a half so it's fresh in my memory, i might be able to help
#2209 [18:48] <noiro_> retroelectron: Ubuntu 12.04 and I have Java 7 and openjdk 6 and 7
#2210 [18:49] <retroelectron> same here...one thing that will help drastically is to use the Unity 2D desktop session
#2211 [18:49] <retroelectron> Compiz and minecraft do not get along
#2212 [18:49] <noiro_> I was using Gnome3
#2213 [18:49] <retroelectron> gotcha...do you have compiz enabled?
#2214 [18:49] <noiro_> no, compiz hates me
#2215 [18:49] <noiro_> I don't think I do anyway.
#2216 [18:50] <noiro_> anyway to check?
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#2218 [18:50] <retroelectron> while you're running minecraft just see if Xorg is using a huge amount of processor
#2219 [18:50] <retroelectron> also, skyboy: i have resolved the problem i was having, where should i publish my issue and solution? I appreciate your help
#2220 [18:50] <noiro_> NOOOO!!!
#2221 [18:51] <VoxelHead> i like noooo
#2222 [18:51] <noiro_> I was so close. :(
#2223 [18:51] <retroelectron> are you launching minecraft with the correct java version noiro?
#2224 [18:52] <retroelectron> ubuntu can be a bit funny about following directions...even though i had java 7 set as my default it was still launching minecraft with the openjdk
#2225 [18:52] <noiro_> yes, I just ran it with openjdk7
#2226 [18:53] <retroelectron> run it on Oracle's java
#2227 [18:53] <noiro_> I have it restored to being able to play but I still have the same original problem I have
#2228 [18:53] <retroelectron> that was how i got mine to not black screen
#2229 [18:53] <superkabii> Wug disappeared again? :<
#2230 [18:53] <noiro_> mine no longer black screens, but I get massive CPU spikes while moving
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#2232 [18:53] <noiro_> it is like a very tiny freeze, but with my specs, it shouldn't happen
#2233 [18:53] <noiro_> it is just bothersome
#2234 [18:53] <skyboy> retroelectron: the minecraft wiki
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#2236 [18:55] <ddan15> hello i cant purchase minecraft everytime i try to purchase it, it says declined or denied please help me
#2237 [18:56] <ddan15> hello?
#2238 [18:56] <noiro_> yeah, chunk loading is eating a TON of CPU
#2239 [18:56] <skyboy> do not use your parent's credit car without permission
#2240 [18:56] <skyboy> card*
#2241 [18:57] <skyboy> noiro_: that sounds like an issue with openjdk
#2242 [18:57] <noiro_> Like, MASSIVE spikes for chunk loading
#2243 [18:57] <ddan15> can anyone answer my question?
#2244 [18:57] <skyboy> you can open a ticket with them and explain that file IO is more expensive than is strictly necessary
#2245 [18:58] <skyboy> ddan15: don't use your parent's credit card without permission
#2246 [18:58] <retroelectron> noiro_ : i was having similar issues, by disabling compiz and setting performance to "Power Saver" i am running at 50 fps and 25 - 75 % cpu usage
#2247 [18:58] <skyboy> the error you're having is because the transaction is being refused by the company you're going through
#2248 [18:58] <retroelectron> that's with fancy graphics, far render distance, high particle density, etc.
#2249 [18:58] <skyboy> visa/paypal/etc
#2250 [18:59] <ddan15> its not there credit card its a visa gift card i bought at kroger its a debit card i bought with my own money
#2251 [18:59] <noiro_> retro, I have a 1GB Graphics card with 6GB of RAM. wtf?
#2252 [18:59] <skyboy> then you must call visa and have them unlock the giftcard for international usage
#2253 [18:59] <retroelectron> i have a 1 gig card with 4 gigs of ram...didn't seem to matter
#2254 [18:59] <skyboy> by default they are locked
#2255 [18:59] <ddan15> ok thanks skyboy ill try it
#2256 [18:59] <noiro_> Grrr....that's evil
#2257 [19:00] <skyboy> noiro_: blame the fact that *nix has so many variations
#2258 [19:00] <skyboy> it's difficult to keep the millions of combinations straight and anticipate
#2259 [19:01] <retroelectron> seriously...i'm happy to have a game that runs natively on nix at all
#2260 [19:01] <noiro_> skyboy, Ubuntu is one of the most popular. :P I'm not even using any of the real off-branching ones like Fedora
#2261 [19:02] <skyboy> it may be the most popular, but most companies have given up trying to support *nix, and allow the community to create tools
#2262 [19:02] <skyboy> which tend to be buggy, since they don't have access to the proprietary code of the company
#2263 [19:03] <noiro_> :(
#2264 [19:03] <skyboy> *shrugs* what can you do?
#2265 [19:04] <noiro_> Make it work (since it IS Java)
#2266 [19:04] <skyboy> OpenJDK*
#2267 [19:05] <noiro_> Actually, I'm trying to run MC with Sun's Java to see if I get improvement
#2268 [19:05] <noiro_> It runs, but my server is down so I can't test
#2269 [19:05] <skyboy> probably, but that doesn't preclude interference from other programs; also, open a single player map
#2270 [19:05] <skyboy> you can delete it later
#2271 [19:05] <skyboy> or not
#2272 [19:08] <ddan15> ok i called them and i was on a conference call with visa and they said the merchant wont accept the type of card im using so what do i do?
#2273 [19:09] <noiro_> use paypal
#2274 [19:09] <skyboy> get a real credit card, use paypal, etc. the card you have won't be able to be used
#2275 [19:09] <ddan15> i did ive used the exact same card with paypal before it worked fine it just wont work with minecraft...
#2276 [19:11] <ddan15> hello?
#2277 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Our answer won't change
#2278 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Use a different card then
#2279 [19:12] <ddan15> ok lol
#2280 [19:12] <noiro_> retroelectron, I don't xorg in my task manager at all
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#2283 [19:14] <Guest_> when ever i try to play minecraft it says that it couldnt create java virtual machine and i uninstalled and reinstalled java but still doesnt work please help
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#2285 [19:14] <skyboy> can you give us a screenshot of the exact error message?
#2286 [19:16] <Guest_> i can type it i dont have screen shot
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#2289 [19:16] <Guest_> Error: Could not create Java Virtual Machine.
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#2291 [19:19] <Guest_> ?
#2292 [19:19] <Guest_> when ever i try to play minecraft it says that it couldnt create java virtual machine and i uninstalled and reinstalled java but still doesnt work please help
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#2294 [19:21] <noiro_> gah, sound is choppy
#2295 [19:25] <retroelectron> just for general info, i've confirmed that the latest version of lwjgl (2.8.4) does work without breaking the game
#2296 [19:25] <retroelectron> 2.8.2 is the version i mentioned that was a game-breaker
#2297 [19:26] <retroelectron> noiro_: choppy sound can be a side effect or changing your lwjgl version
#2298 [19:27] <retroelectron> by reverting to the packaged version of the al files included with minecraft you can get the sound back to normal if that's what's causing the issue
#2299 [19:30] <noiro_> that's what fixed the issue, and what do you mean revert?
#2300 [19:32] <retroelectron> the files in ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/ named libopenal.so and libopenal64.so
#2301 [19:32] <retroelectron> if you use the files packaged with the game (version 2.5.2 of lwjgl) instead of files from a later version it should resolve the problems that the newer files can cause with choppy / distorted audio
#2302 [19:35] <noiro_> where can I get those?
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#2304 [19:35] <retroelectron> the new ones or the old ones?
#2305 [19:35] <retroelectron> the old ones come with the game
#2306 [19:35] <retroelectron> the new ones are available here
#2307 [19:35] <retroelectron> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/Official%20Releases/LWJGL%202.8.4/
#2308 [19:37] <noiro_> and since i Need the old ones, are they just inside the .jar?
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#2310 [19:37] <retroelectron> no, they're at the path ~/.minecraft/bin/natives/
#2311 [19:40] <noiro_> so don't I have to download and run the 2.5.2 version before it creates the new ones under that path?
#2312 [19:40] <retroelectron> i'm not sure what you're asking
#2313 [19:40] <retroelectron> the sound files that don't mess up come with the game
#2314 [19:40] <noiro_> I'm trying to figure out step by step how to move them to this game so I can resolve the problem
#2315 [19:41] <retroelectron> ok...2 seconds, this really helped me out
#2316 [19:41] <retroelectron> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/798291-solved-cant-close-the-pause-menu/
#2317 [19:41] <retroelectron> that's the wrong link...
#2318 [19:41] <retroelectron> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/134703-linux-stuck-keys-solution/
#2319 [19:42] <retroelectron> i am using the 2.8.4 version with no problems so you can disregard what's in that post about the "latest" version not working, it's referring to 2.8.2
#2320 [19:42] <retroelectron> so what you want to do is replace the jars from in ~/.minecraft/bin with the ones from the 2.8.4 package
#2321 [19:43] <retroelectron> and replace the fines in ~/.minecraft/bin/natives with the ones from natives in the 2.8.4 package except for the files i listed before
#2322 [19:43] <retroelectron> *files not fines
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#2324 [19:46] <noiro_> retro, is there a download linke to 2.8.4?
#2325 [19:47] <noiro_> I had 2.8.3 and that had issues
#2326 [19:48] <retroelectron> http://sourceforge.net/projects/java-game-lib/files/latest/download?source=files
#2327 [19:48] <retroelectron> i have only been using this for an hour or so but have experience no problems
#2328 [19:48] <retroelectron> i have had my sound off though
#2329 [19:49] <retroelectron> also, i see what you mean about the disk io causing tiny stutter...did you find a solution to that?
#2330 [19:49] <noiro_> I haven't yet.
#2331 [19:49] <noiro_> and 2.8.4 seems to black screen me
#2332 [19:49] <noiro_> and 2.8.4 seems to black screen me
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#2334 [19:51] <noiro_> retroelectron: To confirm, I was supposed to copy all contents of the native folder over, correct?
#2335 [19:52] <retroelectron> you can
#2336 [19:52] <retroelectron> did you also copy the .jar files specified in the link i provided?
#2337 [19:52] <noiro_> I did and 2.8.4 doesn't work for me. I'm stuck on 2.8.3
#2338 [19:52] <noiro_> oh....the jar files from it? crap
#2339 [19:53] <noiro_> which jars again?
#2340 [19:53] <retroelectron> yes, there are 3 jar files that you need to overwrite
#2341 [19:53] <retroelectron> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/134703-linux-stuck-keys-solution/ has all of this information
#2342 [19:56] <noiro_> wow....mc is significantly faster e.o
#2343 [19:58] <noiro_> retroelectron, that is insane
#2344 [19:58] <noiro_> Do you have a random mouse issue when turning the camera as well?
#2345 [19:59] <retroelectron> i haven't run into that
#2346 [19:59] <retroelectron> i am using sun java 7 though
#2347 [19:59] <noiro_> it's all that I have left. While turning, the camera occasionally jerks back into a previous position
#2348 [20:00] <retroelectron> i did see a HUGE performance increase going from OpenJDK to Sun java
#2349 [20:00] <noiro_> I'll try it on that
#2350 [20:00] <retroelectron> bah...ORACLE java
#2351 [20:01] <noiro_> it does it about the same for me
#2352 [20:01] <retroelectron> the turning issue or the performance?
#2353 [20:02] <noiro_> turning issue. Performance is about the same as well, actually
#2354 [20:02] <superkabii> I fixed so many JVM crashes after switching away from OpenJDK aswell
#2355 [20:02] <VoxelHead> I like them =)
#2356 [20:03] <retroelectron> noiro_ are you using a wired mouse?
#2357 [20:03] <noiro_> yes
#2358 [20:03] <noiro_> It's a gaming mouse too
#2359 [20:04] <retroelectron> that's not necessarily a good thing if the vendor didn't provide native linux drivers
#2360 [20:04] <retroelectron> community written drivers are great for simple, standard hardware but they don't tend to be as robust for specialized hardware
#2361 [20:04] <noiro_> they do. I haven't installed them yet. Linux seemed to have picked it up well enough (the special buttons work)
#2362 [20:05] <retroelectron> i would say give the drivers a shot first
#2363 [20:05] <retroelectron> have you seen the issue with any other applications?
#2364 [20:05] <noiro_> I have not
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#2368 [20:09] <hig> k, im in general chat, does anyone have a server they made so i can play on, its so hard to find one, either that or im a noob
#2369 [20:10] <noiro_> mine is down for some reason atm, and I am working with the host, but play.psycraft.net is one
#2370 [20:10] <noiro_> it will be up in the very near future......
#2371 [20:10] <VoxelHead> Mmm Sgttraveler.
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#2373 [20:11] <hig> hey, how about we make one right now?
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#2375 [20:13] <noiro_> hig, I already have a premium one lol
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#2378 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> ??> hig smp/servers
#2379 [20:17] <VoxelHead> hig: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2380 [20:17] <VoxelHead> hig: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2381 [20:19] <hig> i just wanted to find someone who just wanted to play on clean server and stuff
#2382 [20:19] <skyboy> go to #smp then
#2383 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> ^
#2384 [20:19] <skyboy> this is for help, not multiplayer requests
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#2386 [20:24] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go :'(
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#2388 [20:25] <retroelectron> ??> retroelectron help
#2389 [20:25] <VoxelHead> retroelectron: (help) To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#2390 [20:25] <VoxelHead> retroelectron: (help) For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#2391 [20:25] <littlebird1996> when i open up minecraft the login menu is grey and it says this <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.SocketException: Address family not supported by protocol family: connect</center></font></body></html>
#2392 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> That'll be because of the relevant knowledge malware
#2393 [20:26] <GreyVulpine> I recommend uninstalling it
#2394 [20:26] <littlebird1996> how
#2395 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#2396 [20:27] <littlebird1996> im not very knowlegable about computers
#2397 [20:27] <littlebird1996> windows 7
#2398 [20:27] <retroelectron> ??< index
#2399 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Grab malwarebytes from http://www.malwarebytes.org/
#2400 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> install it. Run a scan. When it detects relevant knowledge, remove it
#2401 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Then use minecraft
#2402 [20:28] <retroelectron> is it ok for me to be messing with VoxelHead?
#2403 [20:28] <VoxelHead> Can i phone a friend?
#2404 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> ?? irc/bots
#2405 [20:28] <VoxelHead> irc/bots: The bots in this channel are meant to be used for assisting users in need of help
#2406 [20:28] <VoxelHead> irc/bots: Abuse of the bots will have you removed from the channel. If you aren't using the bot for it's intended purpose, you ARE abusing it
#2407 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> I don't mind. If you are planning on using a lot of keywords, I would recommend using it in ##voxelhead
#2408 [20:29] <retroelectron> thank you
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#2410 [20:37] <retasim> hello?
#2411 [20:38] <retasim> I'm trying to download and install minecraft, and when it's done downloading I click run to install it and it gives me this http://i.imgur.com/ez8Ar.jpg
#2412 [20:38] <GreyVulpine> How are you running it?
#2413 [20:39] <retasim> hold on, let me get more screenshots of what happens
#2414 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> retasim: Did it have trouble when it was trying to download?
#2415 [20:43] <retasim> DiskDaemon, I guess you can say that
#2416 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. You can temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2417 [20:43] <retasim> When you click download from the sight
#2418 [20:43] <retasim> and then it asks you to run it, it gives that error
#2419 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Could you download it to your desktop?
#2420 [20:44] <retasim> no
#2421 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> No?
#2422 [20:44] <retasim> you can download it from the site, and click the run, to install it and it gives the eroor
#2423 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> Open the folder where you downloaded minecraft.exe to, and move it elsewhere
#2424 [20:44] <retasim> *error
#2425 [20:44] <retasim> there is no folder
#2426 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> retasim: right-click on the minecraft.exe from the website and choose to save it to a location
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#2428 [20:45] <VoxelHead> Choose a starter home.
#2429 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead, shut up
#2430 [20:45] <VoxelHead> :(
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#2432 [20:48] <Evan> is minecraft login servers down?
#2433 [20:49] <Rikairchy> !down
#2434 [20:49] <Rikairchy> !isdown
#2435 [20:49] <GreyBot> Rikairchy: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2436 [20:49] <Rikairchy> >.>
#2437 [20:49] <Rikairchy> oh okay.
#2438 [20:49] <Rikairchy> good bot
#2439 [20:49] <Evan> its up for me now
#2440 [20:49] * Rikairchy pets the GreyVulpine
#2440 [20:49] <Rikairchy> errr
#2441 [20:49] <Rikairchy> GreyBot
#2442 [20:49] * Rikairchy fail tabbr
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#2443 [20:50] * GreyVulpine facepalms
#2443 [20:53] <retasim> DiskDaemon
#2444 [20:53] <retasim> getting screenshots
#2445 [20:53] <DiskDaemon> righto
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#2447 [20:56] <retasim> http://imgur.com/a/o1Mu4
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#2449 [20:57] <retasim> for some reason, got the same pic twice, but there
#2450 [20:57] <retasim> DiskDaemon
#2451 [20:57] <retasim> i did that and it gave me the same error
#2452 [20:57] <xSpiiraLv> my xbox freezes every time i try and open my world, do you know why, its only just started today?
#2453 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> retasim: Do you get the same issue when you move the minecraft file to your desktop/
#2454 [20:59] <retasim> let me try
#2455 [21:00] <retasim> yup
#2456 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> ??> retasim win/reinst
#2457 [21:00] <VoxelHead> retasim: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2458 [21:00] <VoxelHead> retasim: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2459 [21:02] <retasim> That's the thing
#2460 [21:02] <retasim> there is no .minecraft
#2461 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> oh dear - I'll see what info mI can find in relation to that then
#2462 [21:05] <xSpiiraLv> can anyone help me?
#2463 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> retasim: When you right-click on the minecraft file and go to properties, what size do you get for the file?
#2464 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> xSpiiraLv: We can try
#2465 [21:06] <retasim> i'll check
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#2467 [21:07] <retasim> Protocol: HyperText Transfer Protocol with Privacy
#2468 [21:07] <retasim> does't give me a file
#2469 [21:07] <retasim> ^ fale c/p
#2470 [21:07] <retasim> also,it doesn't give me a file size
#2471 [21:07] <retasim> but on the site it says 270kb
#2472 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> retasim: I'm talking about the minecraft.exe file that you downloaded to your computer
#2473 [21:08] <retasim> ohh
#2474 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> retasim: right-click on the web site link for minecraft.exe and select to save the file
#2475 [21:08] <computerdude5000> so im unbanned on here then
#2476 [21:09] <retasim> 272 KB (278,561 bytes)
#2477 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> retasim: That filesize looks to be larger than it should be. Please ensure that it is minecraft.exe that you are downloading the minecraft.exe file from
#2478 [21:09] <retasim> i am -_-
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#2480 [21:10] <bozo97> hello
#2481 [21:10] <DiskDaemon> I'm going to download it too, to my desktop, and see what filesize I get for that
#2482 [21:10] <bozo97> how do i get mods
#2483 [21:11] <VoxelHead> I like them :)
#2484 [21:11] <retasim> you can't even actually download/install the damn thing
#2485 [21:11] <bozo97> how do i get mods
#2486 [21:11] <DiskDaemon> retasim: Oh good, the recent launcher is a different size from what I used to have, and is the same size as what you reported there.
#2487 [21:11] <retasim> okay
#2488 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> retasim: I've seen some people resolve your particular issue by going to compatibility (in the properties) and turning on the tickbox to run it as an administrator
#2489 [21:12] <retasim> tried that just now, didn't work xD
#2490 [21:12] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: The minecraft forums web site has lots of mods for you to get
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#2492 [21:13] <uix996> hey all
#2493 [21:14] <VoxelHead> hi
#2494 [21:14] <uix996> why does every time i want to connect to the server say bad login?
#2495 [21:14] <GreyVulpine> Did you purchase minecraft?
#2496 [21:14] <uix996> no
#2497 [21:14] <retasim> that's why
#2498 [21:14] <retasim> :3
#2499 [21:14] <uix996> i every server that i get online i cant play it
#2500 [21:15] <uix996> literali everione
#2501 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> Right, minecraft isn't free
#2502 [21:15] <bozo97> how do i get to the forums
#2503 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> uix996: Try again after you have purchased the game
#2504 [21:15] <GreyVulpine> You need a valid username to be able to play minecraft.
#2505 [21:15] <retasim> DiskDaemon, it's still not working
#2506 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> retasim: Then I'm sorry, but I have no further info on how to resolve that launcherframe error
#2507 [21:16] <uix996> but if i have a premium acc and didnt purchese the game could i stil enter the server?
#2508 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Puchasing the game is what gives you a premium account
#2509 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> You cannot have a premium account without it
#2510 [21:16] <uix996> i konw but there are a lot of hackd premium acc-s today
#2511 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> That's asking to be kicked from the channel, or even banned
#2512 [21:16] <bozo97> how do i get to the minecraft forums to get mods??
#2513 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> bozo97 - Google for it
#2514 [21:17] <xSpiiraLv> my xbox freezes every time i try and open my world, do you know why, its only just started today?
#2515 [21:17] <bozo97> google what
#2516 [21:17] <retasim> DiskDaemon, you know anyone who does?
#2517 [21:17] <uix996> im just asking i dont have a premium
#2518 [21:17] <uix996> but some of my friends from skipe do
#2519 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> uix996 - Then you have your answer why you get a bad login when entering servers
#2520 [21:17] <uix996> kk
#2521 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Those servers are authenticating, and denying you entry, because of it
#2522 [21:17] <uix996> tnx
#2523 [21:18] <bozo97> what do i google
#2524 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Minecraft forums
#2525 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> retasim: It may be that there's something in your existing computer account profile that's interfering with things. You can try creating a new user account on your computer to help limit the impact of that
#2526 [21:18] <uix996> me?
#2527 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/51-minecraft-mods/
#2528 [21:18] <retasim> what would be interfering with it?
#2529 [21:18] <bozo97> thanks
#2530 [21:19] <retasim> I think my computer is Windows Vista
#2531 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> retasim: Yours is a new situation for me, so I cannot now
#2532 [21:19] <retasim> does that change anything?
#2533 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> *know
#2534 [21:20] <uix996> does enyone know a skyblock server where i can play whit out premium acc?
#2535 [21:20] <skyboy> ?? win/!
#2536 [21:20] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#2537 [21:20] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#2538 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> uix996 - No. Buy the game
#2539 [21:20] <xSpiiraLv> my xbox freezes every time i try and open my world, do you know why, its only just started today?
#2540 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> uix996: We do not support the idea of piracy here
#2541 [21:21] <uix996> im just asking becous i love skyblock maps
#2542 [21:21] <retasim> DiskDaemon, does minecraft not work on Windows Visa?
#2543 [21:21] <retasim> *Vista
#2544 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> xSpiiraLv: Do you get the same issue on a new world?
#2545 [21:21] <uix996> i didnt play them
#2546 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> retasim: It does work on vista
#2547 [21:21] <uix996> but i would like to
#2548 [21:21] <retasim> :<
#2549 [21:21] <xSpiiraLv> no, its just this world?
#2550 [21:21] <skyboy> retasim: do you have any special characters in your account profile? such as !, @, $ etc.
#2551 [21:21] <retasim> no
#2552 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> xSpiiraLv: Then there may be something corrupted about that world
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#2554 [21:22] <skyboy> what about a character with an accent?
#2555 [21:22] <retasim> no
#2556 [21:22] <bozo97> how do i install mods
#2557 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: That would provide a very different set of symptoms if he had that situation
#2558 [21:22] <xSpiiraLv> how do i uncorrupt it? Because i have done a lot in the world and don't want to restart
#2559 [21:23] <skyboy> well, i don't know what his symptoms are; imgur is over capacity so i can't look at the screenshots
#2560 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: We do not probide support for mods here, but there is info at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods#How_to_install_mods
#2561 [21:23] <bozo97> ok thanks
#2562 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> xSpiiraLv: the xbox version, I don't think that you can uncorrupt it
#2563 [21:24] <xSpiiraLv> so what could be wrong with it?
#2564 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> xSpiiraLv: My money is on a data error on the xbox hard drive
#2565 [21:24] <uix996> zz all
#2566 [21:24] <xSpiiraLv> how could i fix it?
#2567 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: When trying to start he launcher, he gets a windows dialog box with a title of "Java Virtual Machine Launcher" and a message of "Could not find the main class:net.minecraft.MinecraftLauncher. Program will exit"
#2568 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> xSpiiraLv: How would you fix corrupted sectors of a hard drive?
#2569 [21:25] <bozo97> what is the mod called that lets you write commands in single player
#2570 [21:26] <skyboy> someone had a similar issue yesterday
#2571 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: That might be single player commands
#2572 [21:26] <bozo97> how do u do that
#2573 [21:26] <skyboy> it was related to an extra folder in the hierarchy of the minecraft.jar
#2574 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: retasim doesn't even have a .minecraft folder yet
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#2576 [21:27] <skyboy> but for that issue to present in the launcher, it has to be a poorly made illegitimate client
#2577 [21:28] <bozo97> how do u do single player commands
#2578 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> He claims to have downloaded it, and it reports the same filesize (to the byte) as what is currently downloadable from the web site
#2579 [21:28] <retasim> skyboy, there is no .minecraft faile
#2580 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: We do not support mods here
#2581 [21:28] <retasim> *file
#2582 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> ??> bozo97 mods
#2583 [21:28] <VoxelHead> bozo97: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2584 [21:28] <VoxelHead> bozo97: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2585 [21:28] <retasim> I downloaded it, but can't run/install ti
#2586 [21:28] <retasim> *it
#2587 [21:28] <bozo97> why dont u do mods
#2588 [21:29] <skyboy> someone with team viewer could verify
#2589 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: Please read what VoxelHead told you. It's explained there why we don't
#2590 [21:29] <skyboy> it's an off chance that java 1.7 will cause the issue
#2591 [21:29] <bozo97> ok
#2592 [21:29] <retasim> skyboy, are you directing that to me?
#2593 [21:29] <skyboy> i'm thinking aloud.
#2594 [21:30] <skyboy> what version of java do you have?
#2595 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: I had similar suspicions that you had, whch is why I attempted to perform certain verifications. You're welcome to carry on with retasim because I've come to an end of what I can help with there
#2596 [21:30] <retasim> idk
#2597 [21:30] <retasim> i don't know which version i have
#2598 [21:30] <skyboy> ??> retasim java/version
#2599 [21:31] <VoxelHead> retasim: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2600 [21:31] <VoxelHead> retasim: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2601 [21:32] <retasim> the verification for that site isn't working
#2602 [21:33] <skyboy> ??> retasim java/info
#2603 [21:33] <VoxelHead> retasim: (java/info) You can go here to see what version of Java you currently have installed: http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#2604 [21:35] <retasim> i don't think i have java o_O
#2605 [21:35] <skyboy> ??> retasim java/jre6u29
#2606 [21:35] <VoxelHead> retasim: (java/jre6u29) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#2607 [21:35] <retasim> what's that?
#2608 [21:35] <skyboy> the download to install java
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#2610 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, no wonder. I'll have to remember that particular issue, and the cause of it
#2611 [21:36] <retasim> which one do you download? D:
#2612 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> Press Win+pause to find out what type of Vista you have - 32-bit or 64-bit
#2613 [21:37] <retasim> 32bit
#2614 [21:37] <retasim> i already know that :3
#2615 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> Okay, vert eh x86 one hen - the offline install is a good option
#2616 [21:38] <retasim> why offline?
#2617 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> wow - get the Windows x86 Offline one then, so that you don't have to wait even more for the installer to download the same contents
#2618 [21:39] <skyboy> the online installer should be smaller, and will only download the selected components
#2619 [21:39] <retasim> sooo
#2620 [21:39] <retasim> which one to get?
#2621 [21:39] <skyboy> it doesn't really matter
#2622 [21:39] * DiskDaemon throws hands in the air
#2622 [21:39] <retasim> which do you suggest?
#2623 [21:39] <DiskDaemon> retasim: Flip a coin
#2624 [21:39] <skyboy> the offline one will work should you need to reinstall at a later date without internet
#2625 [21:40] <skyboy> indeed, a coin flip is best
#2626 [21:40] <skyboy> it really makes no difference in over 95% of all cases
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#2628 [21:40] <retasim> okay, downloading
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#2630 [21:41] <mendota> hey
#2631 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#2632 [21:42] <mendota> could anyone here enlighten me on installing the "not enough items" mod? chicken_bones's forum post is a little vague.
#2633 [21:42] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2634 [21:42] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2635 [21:43] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2636 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> Does anyone know if #direwolf20 is a good place for such help with mods?
#2637 [21:43] <skyboy> iunno, i play vanilla
#2638 [21:43] * DiskDaemon too
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#2639 [21:44] <mendota> hm, well, i'll muddle through as best i can.
#2640 [21:44] <skyboy> i like building ridiculously massive TNT cannons :3
#2641 [21:44] <skyboy> current best for launching a shot for me is: 58.3 chunks
#2642 [21:45] <unsee_able> how do i stop minecraft lag?
#2643 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: You might enjoy this clip then - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bpAPWIpBwY
#2644 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> unsee_able: Use better hardware?
#2645 [21:45] <skyboy> reduce view distance, turn off smooth lightning
#2646 [21:45] <skyboy> change graphics from "fancy" to "fast"
#2647 [21:45] <DiskDaemon> Hang on, he said lag, which is a multiplayer networking issue
#2648 [21:46] <unsee_able> only have 1 computer and i run other games that run perfectly fine
#2649 [21:46] <skyboy> lag refers to both input lag: overloaded CPU, and networking lag: a slow internet connection
#2650 [21:46] <unsee_able> lag in singleplayer happens too :/
#2651 [21:46] <skyboy> ?? requirements
#2652 [21:46] <VoxelHead> requirements: Minecraft is a modern game, with modern requirements. It is also still under active development, so the code is by no means optimized (what do you expect? It's in Java!). As such, you will not be able to reasonably expect the game to run on a system with less than 1.5GiB of RAM- the game itself allocates 1GB at startup. You will also need a somewhat modern video card and relatively fast CPU.
#2653 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> unsee_able: Those other games most likely use directx, intead of opengl for their graphics
#2654 [21:47] <skyboy> the options i have given you are the best for reducing the amount of rendering performed
#2655 [21:47] <skyboy> view distance: short, graphics: fast, smooth lightning: off
#2656 [21:47] <unsee_able> wats opengl?
#2657 [21:48] <skyboy> it's a fancy programming thing, you don't need to worry about it
#2658 [21:48] <unsee_able> yeh even with all those options on low it will run smoothly in some places and extremely laggy in tohers
#2659 [21:48] <skyboy> ?? win/dxdiag
#2660 [21:48] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2661 [21:48] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2662 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> unsee_able: That is why I prescribe using better hardware, to achieve better performance
#2663 [21:49] <unsee_able> well thanks for the help everyone.
#2664 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> unsee_able: We might bea ble to use that dxdiag info though to help you find more recent graphics drivers. They may not help, but they might a little
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#2667 [22:00] <odielag> What IRC channels are there for server operators?
#2668 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> #smp ?
#2669 [22:01] <odielag> ah, ok. ty
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#2671 [22:02] <skyboy> hm.
#2672 [22:02] <skyboy> in wonder if running a server on a raspi would be viable
#2673 [22:02] <skyboy> a minecraft server, that is
#2674 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> The bandwidth costs might get up there
#2675 [22:04] <skyboy> well, a raspi is $35, and draws 3.5W
#2676 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> What does http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/ when you put in details of where you're planning to be hosting?
#2677 [22:04] <skyboy> 700 MHz, 256 MB RAM (shared between processor and GPU) and can take a 32+GB SD card with a *nix install on it
#2678 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> With that memory I would say no way in hell
#2679 [22:05] <skyboy> some special micromanaging of memory you could write out as much of it as possible to the SD card
#2680 [22:06] <skyboy> if it's nonviable due to read/write speed of the card, then it has general purpose IO ports that could potentially be hijacked for RAM usage
#2681 [22:06] <skyboy> it'd be a complicated build and require its own microprocessor on the board the IO ports connect to
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#2683 [22:08] <skyboy> hah, without that, it can host two players
#2684 [22:10] <skyboy> i get strange ideas, i know
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#2687 [22:18] <TorcTarmin> My Minecraft update is giving me a fatal error when I launch it. Is there some sort of issue with this?
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#2689 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> TorcTarmin: What is the error that it's giving?
#2690 [22:21] <TorcTarmin> Fatal Error occured (4): Connection reset
#2691 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> Is that when it's trying to do the update?
#2692 [22:21] <TorcTarmin> Yes
#2693 [22:21] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. You can temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
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#2695 [22:22] <TorcTarmin> Alright I'll try disabling AVG for a bit and then try it
#2696 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> It's amazing. After thousands of people come here and successfully resolve the problem by doing that, individuals who come here still doubt it
#2697 [22:23] <TorcTarmin> I just got Minecraft
#2698 [22:23] <TorcTarmin> Bingo
#2699 [22:23] <VoxelHead> you just sunk my battleship
#2700 [22:23] <TorcTarmin> Now to find a server to join
#2701 [22:23] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp/servers
#2702 [22:23] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2703 [22:23] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2704 [22:24] <TorcTarmin> Thanks
#2705 [22:25] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, I may want to refer people more commonly to the last section of this page: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-technical-support-
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#2709 [22:32] <fluffmcgruff> Anyone know how to block nodus?
#2710 [22:33] <DiskDaemon> What is nodus?
#2711 [22:33] <fluffmcgruff> It is a hack client that is used for griefing
#2712 [22:34] <DiskDaemon> The #smp channel might know. Banning griefers is the only way that I know is effective
#2713 [22:35] <fluffmcgruff> Ok, thanks
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#2716 [22:36] <moonofevil> hey guys
#2717 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#2718 [22:37] <moonofevil> Oh hey!
#2719 [22:37] <moonofevil> ur from #aethermod right?
#2720 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> that's right
#2721 [22:37] <moonofevil> im moono
#2722 [22:37] <moonofevil> :D
#2723 [22:37] <VoxelHead> r YOU'RE moono? feel these nipples!
#2724 [22:37] <VoxelHead> =D
#2725 [22:37] <moonofevil> voxel.....
#2726 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead, shut up
#2727 [22:37] <moonofevil> so anyway disk
#2728 [22:37] * VoxelHead goes to find someone more interesting to talk to
#2728 [22:38] <moonofevil> if you delete .minecraft will it regen like the bin?
#2729 [22:38] <skyboy> yes, but without your saves
#2730 [22:38] <skyboy> or screenshots
#2731 [22:38] <moonofevil> but what if it perm delets?
#2732 [22:38] <moonofevil> will it?
#2733 [22:38] <skyboy> it didn't exist the first time it was created
#2734 [22:39] <moonofevil> so how do i get it to regen
#2735 [22:39] <skyboy> launch the launcher
#2736 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> pardon, lost and regained internet connection
#2737 [22:39] <moonofevil> disk
#2738 [22:39] <moonofevil> voxel saidsomething wrongg
#2739 [22:40] <skyboy> ?? bot
#2740 [22:40] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#2741 [22:40] <moonofevil> is subot a bot
#2742 [22:40] <moonofevil> aubot*
#2743 [22:40] <skyboy> ?? aubot
#2744 [22:40] <VoxelHead> aubot: Aubot is also a bot.
#2745 [22:40] <moonofevil> yoxel
#2746 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> moonofevil: When you log in via the launcher, the .minecraft folder will be recreated
#2747 [22:41] <moonofevil> ?? DiskDaemon
#2748 [22:41] <moonofevil> disk
#2749 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> yes?
#2750 [22:41] <moonofevil> thanks so much
#2751 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#2752 [22:41] <moonofevil> you help me out so much =D
#2753 [22:42] <skyboy> didn't i just say that 2 minutes ago?
#2754 [22:42] <moonofevil> so c u next time i have a problem (tommorow)
#2755 [22:45] <skyboy> how does a 3D perlin noise temperature map sound?
#2756 [22:45] <skyboy> with some mild alterations based on the biome and nearby biomes
#2757 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> How does it sound as a descriptive term? Or when rendered as actual audio...
#2758 [22:48] <lemon-rev> diskdaemon is there a channel for say tecknic at all it kinda uses a bunch of shit, including bukkit im in there channel i asked question but no go so far any thoughts ?
#2759 [22:48] <skyboy> descriptive term?
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#2761 [22:48] <moonofevil> greattt
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#2763 [22:49] <moonofevil> lol i cant open the minecraft.jar
#2764 [22:49] <moonofevil> can you help?
#2765 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> For purposes of modding?
#2766 [22:49] <skyboy> 7-zip or winrar
#2767 [22:49] <moonofevil> uhh yeag
#2768 [22:49] <moonofevil> yeah*
#2769 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> I'm afraid that we are not a venue for modding support
#2770 [22:49] <moonofevil> and skyboy i tried
#2771 [22:49] <lemon-rev> not for modding
#2772 [22:49] <lemon-rev> i have the launcher but it always install on c: i need it to install on other drive
#2773 [22:49] <skyboy> if you have those and can't open it, then there's no more advice i can give you
#2774 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> moonofevil: There are resources out there though for help, such as http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/Installing_Mods
#2775 [22:50] <moonofevil> yah thanks im kind of maybe a sort of modder :3
#2776 [22:50] <moonofevil> is that bad?
#2777 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> lemon-rev: You can use MagicLauncher to easily set a different .minecraft folder location
#2778 [22:51] <moonofevil> how you quote things? :#
#2779 [22:51] <moonofevil> :3*
#2780 [22:51] <lemon-rev> diskdaemon does that work with the technik launcher ?
#2781 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> lemon-rev: Alternatively, you can use a batch file to set the appdata variable to a different location before it runs the launcher
#2782 [22:51] <lemon-rev> ok, how i get a hold of that ?
#2783 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> lemon-rev: We don't support modified launchers such as tekkit here
#2784 [22:52] <lemon-rev> i know :(
#2785 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/939149-magic-launcher
#2786 [22:52] <lemon-rev> ty
#2787 [22:53] <skyboy> oh, i see what oyu meant now: i meant, as a part of minecraft
#2788 [22:53] <skyboy> so snow/ice melts and refreezes over time, etc
#2789 [22:54] <skyboy> potentially even allow lava to melt stone
#2790 [22:55] <skyboy> deserts could evaporate water.. hmm
#2791 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> that could be interesting, but would lava on the surface then eventually eat a huge cavity in to the ground?
#2792 [22:56] <skyboy> oh, no, it would eventually solidify
#2793 [22:56] <skyboy> melting would require being somewhere hot, or lava on 5 of the 6 sides of the block
#2794 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> So over time there would end up being no lava?
#2795 [22:57] <skyboy> nope, deeper down is hotter, as per real life
#2796 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> Would that mean that surface-based lava would no longer be viable, for decoration, or traps, or other uses?
#2797 [22:58] <skyboy> it would be a balancing act, stone really deep may melt because of its depth and a hot spot on the noise map occurring, closer to the surface it may cool into stone
#2798 [22:58] <skyboy> and it depends
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#2800 [22:58] <skyboy> if there's a way the player can generate heat, then lava would be a fully renewable thing
#2801 [22:59] <skyboy> i only came up with this idea a few minutes ago :P
#2802 [22:59] <DiskDaemon> okay - I hope you don't mind me throwing certain ideas and issues at it then
#2803 [22:59] <skyboy> oh, it's no problem
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#2805 [23:00] <skyboy> but this would cause all kinds of neat things to happen. like saplings dying in the desert to form those dead shrubs
#2806 [23:01] <skyboy> desert wells being one of the only viable sources of water, lava placed near the surface turning sand blocks into glass
#2807 [23:03] <skyboy> there would need to be logic to prevent certain surface lavas from becoming solid, perhaps requiring at least two surrounded by stone on all but 1 side
#2808 [23:04] <skyboy> with that feature, surface lava blocks in desert biomes would stay solid, but in ice plains or tagia they may turn solid
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#2810 [23:06] <skyboy> however, to offset source blocks becoming stone instead of obsidian by the slow cooling, they could randomly turn into an ore block
#2811 [23:07] <randomnickname> this error....Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset by peer: socket write error?
#2812 [23:08] <DiskDaemon> randomnickname: When does that error appear?
#2813 [23:08] <skyboy> your internet hiccuped
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#2815 [23:08] <randomnickname> it appears whenever im in a server
#2816 [23:09] <DiskDaemon> randomnickname: is that with bukkit or some other type of server?
#2817 [23:09] <skyboy> does it happen at a uniform time after connection? or is it random?
#2818 [23:09] <randomnickname> random and idk if its bukkit i dont think so though
#2819 [23:09] <skyboy> does your browser ever say something like "connection to server reset" ?
#2820 [23:10] <randomnickname> its said connection reset
#2821 [23:10] <skyboy> your browser, the thing you use to access the internet
#2822 [23:10] <DiskDaemon> randomnickname: Can you please go to http://www.speedtest.net/ and share the results you get from performing a speed test?
#2823 [23:11] <randomnickname> sure
#2824 [23:13] <randomnickname> ping: 45 ms, download speed 25.48 mbps, upload speed 4,08 mbps
#2825 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> okay, that's pretty respectable - on how many different servers to you have trouble maintaining a connection with?
#2826 [23:14] <randomnickname> ive tried two so far
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#2828 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> randomnickname: I would say that #smp may have more advanced server-based people who might be able to help with that
#2829 [23:15] <randomnickname> ok thank you
#2830 [23:15] <randomnickname> ok thank you
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#2832 [23:20] <VoxelHead> Where'd my moose go?
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#2835 [23:28] <Ghostasm> I have tried to purchase Minecraft with multiple cards, but it won't let me.
#2836 [23:29] <Ghostasm> One card is associated with my brother's account and he's also tried to purhcase it as a gift code, but it keeps not going through.
#2837 [23:29] <Ghostasm> There's more than enough money on all of the cards.
#2838 [23:29] <DiskDaemon> Ghostasm: Are they gift cards that you're using?
#2839 [23:29] <Ghostasm> What can I do to fix this? Go through Paypal?
#2840 [23:29] <Ghostasm> Tried a debit card Visa and a Mastercard CC (used to purchase my brother's game).
#2841 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> Ghostasm: You may need to contact the bank to authorize those cards for international transactions, since Mojang is in Sweden
#2842 [23:30] <Ghostasm> Well.
#2843 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> Paypal is only for people who are 18 years or older
#2844 [23:30] <Ghostasm> The card has already been used for my brother's account.
#2845 [23:30] <Ghostasm> And we're both older than 18.
#2846 [23:30] <Ghostasm> And we're both older than 18.
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#2848 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> How would you like is to help then?
#2849 [23:32] <Ghostasm> I'm not sure. Just thought I'd see if I had any other options other than to try other cards?
#2850 [23:32] <skyboy> well, since that's exhausted
#2851 [23:32] <skyboy> ?? accounts
#2852 [23:32] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#2853 [23:32] <Ghostasm> I had thought about trying my Paypal account,
#2854 [23:32] <Ghostasm> Ahh.
#2855 [23:32] <Ghostasm> Thanks.
#2856 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> I would contact your bank to find out what they can tell you about things
#2857 [23:32] <Ghostasm> Should it be possible for him to purchase it as a gift code and give me the code?
#2858 [23:32] <Ghostasm> Thanks for your help
#2859 [23:32] <skyboy> probably, but contacting your bank or mastercard first may be best
#2860 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> Yes, gift codes can be purchased by credit card
#2861 [23:33] <skyboy> they are denying it for a reason
#2862 [23:33] <skyboy> find out what that reason is
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#2864 [23:35] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go ),:
#2865 [23:35] <TorcTarmin> How can you start a multiplayer server?
#2866 [23:36] <Ghostasm> And that time it completely registered.
#2867 [23:36] <Ghostasm> Excellent.
#2868 [23:36] <Ghostasm> Guess it was just the servers being funky earlier or something, who knows?
#2869 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> TorcTarmin: By running the minecraft_server.exe file that you can download from minecraft.net
#2870 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> TorcTarmin: Do you want to create your own multiplayer server, or do you want to join someone else's multiplayer server?
#2871 [23:37] <TorcTarmin> I want to create one
#2872 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> TorcTarmin: Here's how to set up a server http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
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#2874 [23:39] <computerproblem> im trying to turn off monsters in my multiplayer world but whatever i do wont work any1 can help meh :O?
#2875 [23:39] <computerproblem> not like pigs chickens etc but creepers zombies and so on.
#2876 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> computerproblem: do you know where to find your server.properties file?
#2877 [23:40] <computerproblem> yeah i did that
#2878 [23:40] <computerproblem> i went in
#2879 [23:40] <computerproblem> changed the monster spawn thing to false
#2880 [23:40] <computerproblem> and difficulty to 0
#2881 [23:40] <computerproblem> and i was playing with no monsters during the day
#2882 [23:40] <computerproblem> but when it hit night time they were back
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#2884 [23:40] <computerproblem> and i set peaceful in my settings
#2885 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> Monster spawners will still spawn monsters, but you shouldn't get any spawning normally
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#2887 [23:41] <skyboy> did you save the file then restart the server?
#2888 [23:41] <skyboy> shutting it down before you edited, of coruse
#2889 [23:42] <computerproblem> i saved the file but no i didnt shutdown the server
#2890 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> The server only reads those properties when it starts up
#2891 [23:43] <computerproblem> so i have to close the minecraft server and restart it up again?
#2892 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> that's right
#2893 [23:43] <computerproblem> ill give it a go