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#5 [00:06] <anotherpissedoffuser> so......... anybody else not able to connect to minecraft.net
#6 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> !isdown
#7 [00:07] <GreyBot> DiskDaemon: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#8 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> anotherpissedoffuser: What error message do you get?
#9 [00:07] <anotherpissedoffuser> could not connect to minecraft.net
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#11 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> anotherpissedoffuser: There can be some symptoms which help explain that. Does the lower part of the launcher have a dirt background, or a black one?
#12 [00:08] <anotherpissedoffuser> dirt
#13 [00:08] <anotherpissedoffuser> Was working like 20 min ago
#14 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> anotherpissedoffuser: Does the upper part of the launcher have any strange text in it?
#15 [00:09] <anotherpissedoffuser> none that I can see
#16 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> ?? causality
#17 [00:09] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#18 [00:09] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#19 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> anotherpissedoffuser: There might be an error report that you can get for the problem, which can help us to find out more on what's causing your issue
#20 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#21 [00:10] <anotherpissedoffuser> well I didn't add any new mods or anything like that. I'll keep messing around with it. Just came here to see if I was the only one.
#22 [00:10] <anotherpissedoffuser> So thanks for your time
#23 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> You are the only one currently - and we can help you to get more info on the problem so that we can diagnose things better for you
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#25 [00:16] <iTater> Has anyone heard of a problem with Minecraft accounts that have been migrated to Mojang accounts being compromised?
#26 [00:17] <DiskDaemon> iTater: Not that I know of. What trouble are you having?
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#28 [00:18] <iTater> I come from a server called "Super-Earth", and currently we're on lockdown because we've been hearing of player and staff accounts on other servers being compromised because they have migrated their accounts.
#29 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Another server owner came in here because people are connecting using hacked clients, and were griefing people. That same hacked client is able to steal session codes too
#30 [00:20] <iTater> So there is no info on Mojang accounts being compromised?
#31 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> None that we know of here
#32 [00:20] <iTater> Thank you for your time, that's what I needed to hear.
#33 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> There are details from Mojang on what to do if you suspect your account has been hacked though
#34 [00:20] <iTater> I'll check them out, thanks again.
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#36 [00:22] <VoxelHead> I like them -_-
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#41 [00:39] <computerproblem> im back is skyboy there?
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#43 [00:47] <DiskDaemon> computerproblem: Not right now, but I may be able to help
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#47 [00:57] <Littlefoot1974_> where is the model button on my minecraft screen so I can install shape shifying mod.. I dont see it. I a running latest version
#48 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> Littlefoot1974: I'm afraid that we don't provide mod support in this channel
#49 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#50 [00:58] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#51 [00:58] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#53 [01:02] <Littlefoot1974_> I dont think you understand, when I log into minecraft there should be a new button under multi player that says Model Things.. I am running version 1.2.5
#54 [01:05] <skyboy> we do not support mods to minecraft.
#55 [01:05] <skyboy> end of.
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#62 [01:18] <MineWonder> anybody avaible
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#64 [01:19] <booboo170> i cannot load minecraft onto my computer, it crashes everytime... any suggestions?
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#66 [01:22] <booboo170> can anyone advise
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#68 [01:22] <booboo170> ?
#69 [01:23] <MineWonder> Mine wont even load
#70 [01:23] <MineWonder> was working fine 5 minutes ago lol
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#72 [01:28] <MineWonder> To quiet
#73 [01:31] <lemon-rev> MineWonder did you mod your client
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#75 [01:36] <wogus> hello!
#76 [01:36] <VoxelHead> Wheeeeee hello.
#77 [01:36] <wogus> I was wondering if anyone could help me with missing "world" folder on my server. http://goo.gl/e7U1a for more details =)
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#80 [01:39] <wogus> I guess I'll explain my case for those afraid of clicking on links.
#81 [01:41] <wogus> after creating a server with minecraft_server.exe, I am loading the default 'world' but I am not having this world save to its proper folder called 'world.'
#82 [01:41] <skyboy> most of us are AFK, and i can offer no advice on servers. it's not that we're afraid of links.
#83 [01:41] <wogus> instead, if I change the name of the folder and the server name under server.properties, it creates a new world and I'm unable to restore the 'world' that I'm playing on. =P
#84 [01:42] <wogus> I understand that thank you, just hoping someone afraid of clicking on a link could help me out perhaps hehe
#85 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> wogus - What is the level-name argument
#86 [01:42] <GreyVulpine> in server.properties
#87 [01:43] <wogus> I changed it multiple times and as of right now is =Goodworld since spacing it makes me load 'Goodworld' and lose my current 'world'
#88 [01:44] <wogus> I understand that making it "= Goodworld" will create a new folder named "Goodworld" but I lose my current 'world'
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#90 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> You won't lose anything, it just points the server to the folder "Goodworld"
#91 [01:45] <GreyVulpine> If that folder doesn't exist, it'll create a new world, with that foldername
#92 [01:46] <GreyVulpine> Do you have a 'world' folder in your server directory?
#93 [01:46] <wogus> I do not
#94 [01:46] <wogus> so I'm wondering where my current world is saving at
#95 [01:46] <wogus> as I stated above, renaming it
#96 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> If level-name is currently Goodworld, it's in the 'goodworld' folder
#97 [01:47] <skyboy> try /saves/?
#98 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> It won't be in 'saves'
#99 [01:47] <hwolf> anybody want to connect to my server? trying to figure out if it is laggy or not
#100 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> Where is minecraft_server.exe right now?
#101 [01:47] <hwolf> 199.16.148.172
#102 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> hwolf - We prefer not to, thanks
#103 [01:47] <wogus> '"= Goodworld" instead of "=Goodworld" will create a "Goodworld" that is not the same as world that I am playing
#104 [01:47] <skyboy> !check 199.16.148.172
#105 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> !check 199.16.148.172
#106 [01:47] <wogus> it's in the same folder as minecraft.exe
#107 [01:47] <GreyVulpine> wogus - And what folder is that?
#108 [01:48] <hwolf> ah, cool thanks
#109 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> Please go there now
#110 [01:48] <wogus> a downloads folder in my documents
#111 [01:48] <wogus> I'm in the folder
#112 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> wogus - When you launch minecraft_server.exe, it creates a bunch of files.
#113 [01:48] <GreyVulpine> including several folders.
#114 [01:49] <wogus> there is no server folder in there because I deleted the multiple "Good World" that were produced that were not the world I had
#115 [01:49] <wogus> loading from Good World just created a whole different map instead
#116 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> If you have level-name=Goodworld, it'll create a "Goodworld" folder
#117 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> level-name cannot have spaces in it
#118 [01:49] <GreyVulpine> Commonly causes problems
#119 [01:50] <wogus> so where can I find the current world files if there is no such folder...?
#120 [01:51] <skyboy> have you deleted it by accident?
#121 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Is level-name currently "Goodworld" or "Good world"?
#122 [01:51] <wogus> it was "Good World" but changed it to Goodworld thinking the space might be causing the bug
#123 [01:51] <GreyVulpine> Or is it level-name= Goodworld?
#124 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> What folders do you have right now in that folder?
#125 [01:52] <wogus> none inside the folder
#126 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Wait.. what?
#127 [01:52] <wogus> I don't have a server folder...
#128 [01:52] <wogus> and this world keeps saving
#129 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> Where you have minecraft_server.exe
#130 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> There's no other folders?
#131 [01:52] <wogus> and I came here to figure out where on earth it is saving
#132 [01:52] <wogus> yea...
#133 [01:52] <GreyVulpine> That's.. not right
#134 [01:52] <wogus> that's what every source I read said...
#135 [01:52] <skyboy> what drive are you on?
#136 [01:53] <wogus> C
#137 [01:53] <wogus> C:\Users\My Life\Downloads\Minecraft <--- this is where my minecraft.exe , server.properties, minecraft_server.exe are all found
#138 [01:53] <wogus> however, no folders within that folder
#139 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> Right... as well as ops.txt, whitelist.txt, ban-ip.txt..
#140 [01:53] <wogus> yea
#141 [01:53] <GreyVulpine> and the world folder, and your Good World folder
#142 [01:54] <wogus> but no folder called 'world'
#143 [01:54] <skyboy> try manually adding /goodword
#144 [01:54] <GreyVulpine> wogus - Can you give me a pastebin of that folder's directory listing via cmd?
#145 [01:54] <skyboy> or world, whichever it is
#146 [01:54] <skyboy> or world, whichever it is
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#148 [01:57] <wogus> just to clarify, you want me to a dir inside the minecraft folder and paste it right....?
#149 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> onto www.pastebin.com, and give us the URL, yes
#150 [01:57] <wogus> how do you copy from cmd...?
#151 [01:57] <skyboy> dir >Log.txt
#152 [01:57] <GreyVulpine> Right click -> mark -> select -> right click again
#153 [01:58] <GreyVulpine> Then paste somewhere
#154 [01:58] <wogus> right click worked
#155 [01:58] <skyboy> i've never considered right clicking on the cmd window. huh.
#156 [01:59] <wogus> http://pastebin.com/0PnRCX8H
#157 [01:59] <wogus> me neither....
#158 [01:59] <wogus> and didn't know you could >log.txt either
#159 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> That works too.
#160 [01:59] <GreyVulpine> Just redirects output to a file
#161 [01:59] <wogus> the.ico are just images I downloaded
#162 [02:00] <wogus> that I threw in that folder because they were minecraft related but should be irrelevant to this case
#163 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Wow.. there are no folders at all.. what the crap
#164 [02:00] <GreyVulpine> Can you pastebin the contents of the server.log?
#165 [02:01] <skyboy> i wonder if the space in the username is causing issues
#166 [02:01] <GreyVulpine> Most likely is
#167 [02:01] <skyboy> so, C:\Users\My\Goodworld?
#168 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't do that
#169 [02:02] <wogus> http://pastebin.com/g3BZvFmk
#170 [02:02] <skyboy> then what does it do?
#171 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> Before, when you had level-name=test1 test2, it would create a folder with test1 as the name
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#173 [02:02] <wogus> yea
#174 [02:02] <wogus> but I'd lose the current world that I have on
#175 [02:02] <GreyVulpine> But I haven't ran a server since late beta, so I don't know how it's changed
#176 [02:02] <skyboy> i meant the space in the username, not levelname
#177 [02:03] <skyboy> is that server.log?
#178 [02:03] <wogus> oops
#179 [02:03] <VoxelHead> You are a stupid bloody moron with no right to exist as a sentient being
#180 [02:03] <wogus> that's the server.prop
#181 [02:03] <wogus> my bad one sec
#182 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> VoxelHead, shut up
#183 [02:03] <GreyVulpine> damn bot
#184 [02:03] <VoxelHead> :(
#185 [02:03] <skyboy> that did make me laugh though
#186 [02:04] <GreyVulpine> The space in the username shouldn't be a problem.
#187 [02:04] <skyboy> it's the only potential issue i can see
#188 [02:04] <wogus> the server.log is a log from the previous server that had overwritten
#189 [02:04] <wogus> from 6 days ago
#190 [02:04] <wogus> not the current one
#191 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure this is the minecraft_server that you ran?
#192 [02:05] <GreyVulpine> And not some older minecraft_server?
#193 [02:05] <wogus> yea
#194 [02:05] <wogus> oh wait...
#195 [02:05] <wogus> I did download bukkit at one point
#196 [02:05] <wogus> but it did the same so I got rid of it
#197 [02:05] <skyboy> post the log anyway
#198 [02:05] <wogus> as in overwrite the world deleting my current world
#199 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> Do a search on your computer for all minecraft_servers
#200 [02:06] <skyboy> it might yet be fruitful
#201 [02:06] <GreyVulpine> I don't think that minecraft_server is the one you're running
#202 [02:06] <AmberK> uhhhh
#203 [02:06] * AmberK is running around freaking out everywhere
#203 [02:07] <wogus> I click it to run it every time if that's what you mean
#204 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't.. make sense.
#205 [02:07] <skyboy> post the log anyway
#206 [02:07] <GreyVulpine> That server.log should have the latest log of when your server ran
#207 [02:07] <wogus> why do you want to see a log from another server from 6 days ago
#208 [02:07] <skyboy> it might be fruitful.
#209 [02:07] <wogus> the server is running right now and I have been running it and exiting every day once a day
#210 [02:08] <skyboy> it was modified on the same day as all of the other files
#211 [02:08] <GreyVulpine> If you did, then that server.log should've cleared itself
#212 [02:08] <skyboy> actually, get process explorer
#213 [02:09] <wogus> http://pastebin.com/tMqsC6D7
#214 [02:09] <wogus> there that's the current log
#215 [02:09] <skyboy> you can find out what the working directory of the server is
#216 [02:09] <wogus> shows me spam changing the world name to see if I could restore the default 'world'
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#218 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> Could you do a search for all instances of minecraft_server on your computer?
#219 [02:10] <GreyVulpine> This isn't making much sense.
#220 [02:10] <wogus> just 1 found
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#222 [02:11] <GreyVulpine> So.. weird.
#223 [02:11] <skyboy> get process explorer, from microsoft
#224 [02:11] <skyboy> you can find out the current working directory of the server. that will be where the save is
#225 [02:12] <skyboy> ?? processexplorer
#226 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, that's not an entry
#227 [02:12] <skyboy> ?? win/processexplorer
#228 [02:12] <VoxelHead> win/processexplorer: An excellent utility that's more powerful and capable than is the Task Mangler^WManager is Process Explorer. You can get it here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653
#229 [02:12] <GreyVulpine> wogus - If you're running the server right now, try a save-all in the server's console
#230 [02:13] <GreyVulpine> That should force it to create a folder...
#231 [02:13] <wogus> anyhow, this is the log that appears on the currently opened minecraft_server http://pastebin.com/2kgzWU5h
#232 [02:13] <wogus> a save-all doesn't create a folder
#233 [02:15] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. something screwy there.
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#235 [02:15] <wogus> running process explorer
#236 [02:15] <wogus> what am I looking for?
#237 [02:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Hello guys.
#238 [02:15] <skyboy> the java instance of the server
#239 [02:15] <skyboy> right click on that and select properties
#240 [02:16] <CrusaderDeleters> In multiplayer, when I attempt to oepn a chest, NOTHING happens.
#241 [02:16] <skyboy> there will be a "current directory" text field that will show you where the server is saving things to
#242 [02:16] <CrusaderDeleters> As if it is buried undera block.
#243 [02:16] <wogus> C:\Users\My Life\Downs\Minecraft\
#244 [02:16] <skyboy> is there a cat sitting on it?
#245 [02:16] <CrusaderDeleters> No. X)
#246 [02:16] <CrusaderDeleters> There's nothing above it.
#247 [02:17] <CrusaderDeleters> I relogged, I break chest and placed it
#248 [02:17] <GreyVulpine> wogus - I think there's something screwy with that server instance you have running right now. It didn't create a world folder, and the server.log backs it up
#249 [02:17] <wogus> are you the owner of the server? CrusaderDeleters the op might have an addon that locks chests so that you can't open them.
#250 [02:18] <skyboy> search for "goodworld," wogus
#251 [02:18] <wogus> GreyVulpine: - agreed, just trying to find a way to save this world
#252 [02:18] <CrusaderDeleters> There is a chestprotection plugin, I know about it, and it would tell me about the lock.
#253 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> I don't think there is, unfortunately.
#254 [02:18] <wogus> skyboy: - there are about 5 Goodworld folders but they are NOT the 'world' the game is loading
#255 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> Save-all would've been the command to force a save
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#257 [02:18] <GreyVulpine> If that didn't make a folder, there's nothing else that will
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#259 [02:19] <wogus> skyboy : look at this log that is the one from the minecraft_server that I'm currently running http://pastebin.com/2kgzWU5h
#260 [02:19] <wogus> it does save
#261 [02:19] <wogus> but it's saving to a 'world' which is nowhere to be fonud
#262 [02:20] <skyboy> ah. search for "world"
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#266 [02:21] <wogus> I can't tell if you're mocking me or being serious
#267 [02:21] <CrusaderDeleters> We aren't allowed to mock here.
#268 [02:21] <skyboy> hey, if it persists, it exists _soemwhere_
#269 [02:21] <GreyVulpine> It isn't. It most likely is just residing in memory.
#270 [02:22] <GreyVulpine> I'm betting the saving's borked.
#271 [02:22] <skyboy> it isn't persisting?
#272 [02:22] <wogus> as in the 'world' is loading every time i run minecraft_server
#273 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> This is how a usual startup should look like.
#274 [02:23] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/8d48kkZa
#275 [02:23] <wogus> wow...
#276 [02:23] <wogus> skyboy: you solved the problem
#277 [02:23] <skyboy> grey: that's generating the area though, or at least i assume that's what the percentages are for
#278 [02:23] * GreyVulpine nods
#278 [02:24] <skyboy> his doesn't have any percentages, but the area exists
#279 [02:24] <wogus> C:\Windows\System32\world
#280 [02:24] <skyboy> so it's not generating, but loading from a file
#281 [02:24] <skyboy> what
#282 [02:24] <wogus> weird place but still there
#283 [02:24] <GreyVulpine> The hell?
#284 [02:24] <skyboy> ...what
#285 [02:24] <skyboy> ....i don't understand
#286 [02:24] <wogus> me neither
#287 [02:24] <wogus> but hey at least i found the world data files and I'm happy
#288 [02:25] <wogus> lol
#289 [02:25] <wogus> case solved!
#290 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> Nicely.. done..?
#291 [02:25] <skyboy> create a new account and launch a server fro mthe same file structure
#292 [02:25] <wogus> why is it in my system32?
#293 [02:25] <GreyVulpine> I have no idea
#294 [02:25] <skyboy> but no spaces!
#295 [02:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Quick debug to see if they actually save: MOVE all saves somewhere else. Save server. If no world folder is recreated, then it did not save.
#296 [02:26] <skyboy> if it creates a world folder, delete the account and create one new one: one with a space in the name, and see if it creates it in system32 again
#297 [02:26] <wogus> I cant move while running the server it says
#298 [02:26] <wogus> I guess I should exit out first
#299 [02:26] <skyboy> well no
#300 [02:26] <skyboy> you have to shut the server down
#301 [02:27] <skyboy> then create those two accounts, system accounts, and test them
#302 [02:27] <skyboy> i want to see if the space in the name is causing it to save to system32 for whatever reason. it might be a new bug
#303 [02:28] <wogus> it created Goodworld lol
#304 [02:29] <skyboy> in that folder?
#305 [02:29] <wogus> in minecraft folder
#306 [02:30] <wogus> but copying the folder from system32 made me restore my world
#307 [02:30] <skyboy> on the same system account?
#308 [02:30] <wogus> nothing in system32 anymore
#309 [02:30] <skyboy> no, i meant the account you logged into on the computer
#310 [02:30] <wogus> i dont have other accounts.... do I have to create one?
#311 [02:31] <skyboy> don't bother, the bug isn't reproducible that way
#312 [02:31] <Dan> ;check smp.womjr.com
#313 [02:31] <wogus> I think it was caused from calling it Good World instead of Good World
#314 [02:31] <wogus> though it had once been called Happy World
#315 [02:31] <Dan> !check smp.womjr.com
#316 [02:31] <skyboy> how did you initially start the server?
#317 [02:31] <wogus> not too happy in the end
#318 [02:31] <wogus> just double clicking it
#319 [02:31] <wogus> so it was the default world
#320 [02:32] <skyboy> try once more with a space in the world name
#321 [02:32] <skyboy> if it creates it in system32 again, that's the bug
#322 [02:33] <skyboy> if it doesn't, i give up
#323 [02:33] <wogus> nope
#324 [02:33] <wogus> it created another "Good World
#325 [02:34] <skyboy> also, for shits&giggles, check system32 for the other files the server uses
#326 [02:34] <wogus> dont see any
#327 [02:34] <skyboy> logically, it had somehow wound up with system32 as its working directory, and therefore should have created and loaded the other files from in th...ere
#328 [02:35] <skyboy> screw logic then
#329 [02:35] <skyboy> black magic happened. that's your bug.
#330 [02:35] <skyboy> never attempt to start the server near black magic sources again
#331 [02:36] <wogus> sry evil witch made me do it
#332 [02:36] <wogus> thanks for all the help though
#333 [02:36] <Necrodoom> .minecraft is being created at system32?
#334 [02:36] <Necrodoom> wat
#335 [02:37] <skyboy> no, the world folder for MC_server
#336 [02:39] <wogus> well thanks a lot for everything
#337 [02:39] <wogus> GreyVulpine: have a great rest of the day and so to you skyboy =)
#338 [02:39] <wogus> adieu~
#339 [02:40] <VoxelHead> \o/ adieu
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#341 [02:42] <GenDefyre> Anyone elses minecraft closing itself? Everytime I open it and hit login it doesn't even go to the menu, just closes. I tried re-installing Minecraft and java, but nothing's worked. :C
#342 [02:43] <skyboy> have you ever been able to start it?
#343 [02:43] <GenDefyre> It was working fine a few hours ago, then suddenly started crashing.
#344 [02:44] <skyboy> ?? causality
#345 [02:44] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#346 [02:44] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#347 [02:45] <GenDefyre> I didn't do anything to change anything though. It ran fine earlier and I never changed anything on it before ti started crashing.
#348 [02:45] <GreyVulpine> Got an error report you can share with us via pastebin.com?
#349 [02:46] <GenDefyre> It didn't give me any error report.
#350 [02:46] <GenDefyre> It literally just closed itself.
#351 [02:46] <GreyVulpine> Does it create any files labeled hs_err_pid?
#352 [02:46] <GenDefyre> No message or notification at all.
#353 [02:46] <GenDefyre> It did not.
#354 [02:47] <GreyVulpine> And you've looked in the folder where you have the minecraft launcher?
#355 [02:48] <GenDefyre> I did. Everything looked fine, but I tried deleting it and re-running MC to get a clean folder installed. At first, folder was created just fine but it still wouldn't run, and now when I tried again the folder won't even generate the original folders/files.
#356 [02:48] <Scott> GreyVulpine: Have you seen Marc?
#357 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> !seen marc
#358 [02:48] <GreyBot> I last saw marc (Mibbit@pool-64-223-86-102.burl.east.myfairpoint.net) 28wks 3days 7hrs 47mins 12secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Client Quit
#359 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> er
#360 [02:48] <GreyVulpine> !seen marc_irl
#361 [02:48] <GreyBot> I last saw marc_irl (webchat@cpe-76-87-92-45.socal.res.rr.com) 26mins 36secs ago, quitting from IRC, saying: Quit: Web client closed
#362 [02:49] <Scott> meh
#363 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> GenDefyre - operating system?
#364 [02:49] <skyboy> !seen skyboy
#365 [02:49] <GreyBot> Look in a mirror, skyboy.
#366 [02:49] <AmberK> lol
#367 [02:49] <skyboy> special cases :3
#368 [02:49] <GenDefyre> Windows XP Proffesional 2002
#369 [02:49] <Scott> I was hoping to get a statement from him.
#370 [02:49] <AmberK> o.O
#371 [02:49] <Scott> What is that? lol.
#372 [02:49] <GreyVulpine> GenDefyre - Please follow these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#374 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> When it crashes, share the contents of the cmd window via pastebin.com and give us the URL
#375 [02:50] <julianisking> i am trying to figure out how to add the mods
#376 [02:50] <AmberK> GreyVulpine: you been hearing the recent news? :P
#377 [02:50] <AmberK> auth servers n shet
#378 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> AmberK - Nope
#379 [02:50] <AmberK> one sec
#380 [02:50] <AmberK> You'll love this one
#381 [02:50] <GenDefyre> Ok. I'll be right back to do that then.
#382 [02:50] <GreyVulpine> Uh-oh
#383 [02:50] <skyboy> julian: in what?
#384 [02:50] <AmberK> Uh, not sure that went through
#385 [02:50] <AmberK> I have a borky irc client
#386 [02:51] <julianisking> i play the minecraft and there is to be a way to add different mod right
#387 [02:51] <AmberK> there we go
#388 [02:51] <skyboy> you should be able to type "op username"
#389 [02:51] <skyboy> or do you mean the other kind of mod?
#390 [02:52] <julianisking> the other kind of mods to do differnet things?
#391 [02:52] <skyboy> "moderator" "modification"
#392 [02:52] <skyboy> ?? mods
#393 [02:52] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#394 [02:52] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#397 [02:53] <Loudclaw> ...Hello? I need a little help here
#398 [02:53] <julianisking> ok i will try that
#399 [02:53] <skyboy> ?? ask
#400 [02:53] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#401 [02:53] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#402 [02:54] <Loudclaw> OK. I want to download mods to my game, but I'm on a Mac. I'm used to doing stuff like this on an HP...
#403 [02:54] <skyboy> ??>> Loudclaw mods
#404 [02:54] <Loudclaw> No, I need HELP downloading them and finding them.
#405 [02:54] <GenDefyre> Ok Here's the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/ueBZTxsj
#406 [02:55] <skyboy> we do not help with mods.
#407 [02:55] <Loudclaw> OK then.
#408 [02:55] <VoxelHead> Master?
#409 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> GenDefyre - And that's when it crashes?
#410 [02:55] <GenDefyre> Yes.
#411 [02:55] <GenDefyre> Yes.
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#413 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> Huh.. doesn't tell me anything..
#414 [02:55] <GreyVulpine> GenDefyre - How does it crash?
#415 [02:56] <skyboy> shouldn't lwjgl be version 2.5? or is that only on *nix?
#416 [02:56] <GenDefyre> I type in my minecraft account username and password and hit the login button and the screen goes black as usual, but then just closes, instead of going to the "mojang" screen.
#417 [02:58] <skyboy> GenDefyre: delete the bin fodler in .minecraft
#418 [02:59] <GenDefyre> Did so, and right after it supposedly finished downloading packages and the files, it crashed again.
#419 [03:00] <skyboy> delete and redownload the minecraft launcher
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#421 [03:01] <GenDefyre> Ok. I re-installed it and it's currently downloading packages again.
#422 [03:02] <GenDefyre> And it crashed.
#423 [03:02] <skyboy> what version of java do you have?
#424 [03:03] <GenDefyre> I have the latest which is Version 7 Update 5
#425 [03:03] <skyboy> uninstall that and install version 6
#426 [03:03] <skyboy> ?? java/jre6u29
#427 [03:03] <VoxelHead> java/jre6u29: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre-6u29-download-513650.html
#428 [03:04] <GenDefyre> I'm downloading it now. I'll be right back with results.
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#430 [03:06] <GenDefyre> There's no 32-bit version on the downloads page.. Just realized.
#431 [03:07] <skyboy> is your OS 64 or 32 bit?
#432 [03:07] <GenDefyre> 32
#433 [03:08] <skyboy> x86 is 32bit
#434 [03:08] <GenDefyre> Oh ok. Thank you.
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#437 [03:12] <GenDefyre> I just installed version 6 and it still crashed.
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#440 [03:13] <skyboy> okay, follow the instructions at this page and paste the log: https://github.com/medsouz/MinecraftError
#441 [03:16] <GenDefyre> It says it couldn't find anything but here's the link: http://pastebin.com/gYLYyMMr
#442 [03:17] <skyboy> ..that's aamzingly unhelpful
#443 [03:17] <GenDefyre> Mhm.
#444 [03:18] <skyboy> the only thing i have left is deleting the bin dir again
#445 [03:18] <skyboy> ?? win/reinst
#446 [03:18] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#447 [03:18] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#448 [03:19] <GenDefyre> It didn't work.
#449 [03:19] <GenDefyre> :C
#450 [03:20] <skyboy> join #risucraft and see if you can get some help there, because i have no explanations for that kind of crash
#451 [03:20] <GenDefyre> Ok. Thanks for trying to help though. :) Have a good rest of your day/night.
#452 [03:20] <skyboy> show both error logs you posted here
#453 [03:21] <GenDefyre> Ok.
#454 [03:24] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: Perhaps useful for later, these instructions can help to get more information about why things crash http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#455 [03:24] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, and I see that such logs have been done
#456 [03:27] <ShaRose> skyboy hey, if this channel didn't figure it out with a clean jar we probably won't either :V
#457 [03:27] <skyboy> sha: you guys know more about the client than i do, it was the best i could do to direct him to you guys
#458 [03:27] <Calinou> ShaRose, modders DO everything
#459 [03:28] <ShaRose> yeah, but there's no info
#460 [03:28] <ShaRose> :V
#461 [03:28] <Calinou> erm, modders is a big word :P
#462 [03:28] <ShaRose> if we saw an exception or something we could track down why pretty fast
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#464 [03:32] <Dan> so how is that auth server?
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#466 [03:32] <jamy> Cant login to any servers
#467 [03:32] <Dan> yea auth server is down
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#469 [03:34] <jamy> Any news on how long?
#470 [03:34] <ShaRose> seems mollstam might be awake
#471 [03:34] <ShaRose> and fixing that error I hope
#472 [03:34] <jamy> Ok, because i can login to Minecraft but can't join Servers
#473 [03:35] * gerald|offline [gerald|offline@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#474 [03:35] <skyboy> that's what happens when the auth servers are down
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#476 [03:36] <Calinou> !login
#477 [03:36] <mib_5ownj0> i can't enter a server, getting errro 503
#478 [03:36] <mib_5ownj0> error*
#479 [03:36] <ShaRose> yeah, you can log in, but you can't join servers.
#480 [03:36] <Dan> that is called the auth server
#481 [03:36] <Calinou> offline mode servers FTW, lol
#482 [03:37] <jamy> Ok, cus i heard that when the auth servers are down, you can't login
#483 [03:37] <mib_5ownj0> aww :/
#484 [03:37] <jamy> ...
#485 [03:39] <VoxelHead> Bye mib_5ownj0.
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#488 [03:42] <cocomoy> hello
#489 [03:42] <Dan> auth server is down so SMP is down
#490 [03:42] <cocomoy> i cant connect to any servers?
#491 [03:43] <cocomoy> oh ok
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#493 [03:43] <Necrodoom> topic needs updating
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#495 [03:44] <libraryaddict> !login
#496 [03:44] <libraryaddict> Liar liar pants on fire
#497 [03:44] <skyboy> auth servers are down
#498 [03:44] <Necrodoom> libraryaddict: nope
#499 [03:44] <skyboy> login server functions
#500 [03:45] <Necrodoom> auth servers are fine, session isnt
#501 [03:45] * libraryaddict yells somethin vague
#501 [03:45] * libraryaddict yells somethin vague
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#503 [03:47] <Dan> login servers are fine its just SMP auth servers that are down
#504 [03:47] <Aidan1> kk
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#506 [03:48] <EVOOSA> יקט?
#507 [03:48] <Calinou> offline mode servers work :P
#508 [03:48] <EVOOSA> can someone help me?
#509 [03:48] <Calinou> lol
#510 [03:48] <Calinou> yes?
#511 [03:48] <EVOOSA> ok
#512 [03:48] <EVOOSA> so i try to connect servers
#513 [03:49] <EVOOSA> and it writes
#514 [03:49] <EVOOSA> server returned HTTP
#515 [03:49] <EVOOSA> response code:
#516 [03:49] <EVOOSA> 503
#517 [03:49] <EVOOSA> blablabla
#518 [03:49] <EVOOSA> wat should i do?
#519 [03:49] <Aidan1> like dan just said
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#521 [03:49] <Aidan1> login servers are fine its just SMP auth servers that are down
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#523 [03:49] <DiskDaemon> Currently while the login servers are fine, the SMP auth servers are having trouble at the moment
#524 [03:50] <EVOOSA> so what does it mean?
#525 [03:50] <Dan> login servers are fine its just SMP auth servers that are down
#526 [03:50] <Ethan> what are smp auth servers?
#527 [03:50] <EVOOSA> cause there r ppl on the server
#528 [03:50] <DiskDaemon> It means that multiplayer will have trouble connecting for now
#529 [03:50] <EVOOSA> ok..
#530 [03:50] <Ethan> okay thank you
#531 [03:50] <EVOOSA> how much time?
#532 [03:50] <DiskDaemon> n/a
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#535 [03:51] <burpo> hello
#536 [03:51] <burpo> any one?
#537 [03:51] <Dan> there will never be a time when the servers are back up so just wait
#538 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#539 [03:51] <Dan> login servers are fine its just SMP auth servers that are down
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#541 [03:51] <skyboy> auth servers are malfunctioning
#542 [03:51] <Dan> login servers are fine its just SMP auth servers that are down
#543 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> Read https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440
#544 [03:51] <burpo> i can't login in server
#545 [03:51] <burpo> any server
#546 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> burpo: Read that twitter message
#547 [03:51] <skyboy> we just explaind that
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#549 [03:52] <burpo> oh thanks
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#551 [03:52] <miny1997> i can´t join any server!
#552 [03:52] <burpo> so it not for my computer
#553 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> miny1997: Read https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440
#554 [03:52] <burpo> server down cos mojor team
#555 [03:52] <americanwhite52> when i try to connect to my server it says error 503 and i loose my connection
#556 [03:52] <burpo> ok thanks for that...bye
#557 [03:52] <miny1997> ok i do that
#558 [03:53] <Dan> login servers are fine its just SMP auth servers that are down
#559 [03:53] <Necrodoom> americanwhite52: session servers are down
#560 [03:53] <americanwhite52> all of them
#561 [03:53] <Dan> why doesnt anybody read what i repeat?
#562 [03:53] <americanwhite52> so when can i get back on
#563 [03:53] <skyboy> eventually
#564 [03:53] <americanwhite52> XD
#565 [03:54] <americanwhite52> ok ty
#566 [03:54] <skyboy> you'll just have to deal with it for now
#567 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> americanwhite52: The SMP auth servers are down at the moment - please see Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info
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#569 [03:54] <americanwhite52> thnx guys
#570 [03:54] <miny1997> and when does the session server works?
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#573 [03:55] <Serone> I cant join any servers
#574 [03:55] <Serone> why?
#575 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> Serone: The SMP auth servers are down at the moment - please see Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info
#576 [03:55] <Serone> ok
#577 [03:55] <Serone> that was quick
#578 [03:55] <Necrodoom> 25th time its being asked
#579 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> I'm going to be typing that out a lot tonight
#580 [03:55] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: bind to hotkey
#581 [03:56] <miny1997> ok bb guys!
#582 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: I have a /smp username script
#583 [03:56] <VoxelHead> Yay! brains!
#584 [03:56] <skyboy> i may just bring skybot online just for pasting that message
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#586 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> hurrah
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#588 [03:56] <James_> i cant get in a server
#589 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> James_: The SMP auth servers are down at the moment - please see Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info
#590 [03:56] <miny1997> and how does it work
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#592 [03:57] <radioactive> DiskDaemon, thats the 503 right?
#593 [03:57] <darkshadows6663> is the minecraft servers down?
#594 [03:57] <Dan> login servers are fine its just SMP auth servers that are down
#595 [03:57] <miny1997> YES!!!!
#596 [03:57] <James_> when i click on an ip it says session.minecraft.net/some numbers =Lia
#597 [03:57] <darkshadows6663> -.-
#598 [03:57] <DiskDaemon> There's an update on mojang.com about this
#599 [03:57] <VoxelHead> I like Yes.
#600 [03:57] <darkshadows6663> -.-
#601 [03:57] <darkshadows6663> anyidea when they're up?
#602 [03:58] <DiskDaemon> N/a
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#604 [03:58] <reglac111> hey is this for minecraft help?
#605 [03:58] <Dan> login servers are fine its just SMP auth servers that are down
#606 [03:58] <Necrodoom> session servers are done
#607 [03:58] <Necrodoom> down*
#608 [03:58] <DiskDaemon> reglac111: It sure is
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#610 [03:59] <reglac111> my brother was playing minecraft on a server when one of his friends overloaded the server and now we con't connect to any minecraft servers. can anyone help?
#611 [03:59] <DiskDaemon> reglac111: The SMP auth servers are down at the moment - please see Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#612 [03:59] <darkshadows6663> there dead-.-
#613 [04:00] <radioactive> Now I have to go sleep -_-
#614 [04:00] <reglac111> thanks for that
#615 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#617 [04:00] <Guest_> hi!
#618 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#619 [04:00] <Guest_> I need some help
#620 [04:00] <Guest_> ermm
#621 [04:00] <Guest_> I'm new
#622 [04:00] <DiskDaemon> what with?
#623 [04:00] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE new? feel these nipples!
#624 [04:00] <Guest_> and I downloaded a mod called as temple run
#625 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead: shut up
#626 [04:01] <Guest_> how can I install it
#627 [04:01] <VoxelHead> Bah.
#628 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest_ mods
#629 [04:01] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#630 [04:01] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#631 [04:01] * Andrio shoots VoxelHead.
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#634 [04:01] <Guest_> pff...
#635 [04:01] <Guest_> well whatever
#636 [04:01] <Guest_> there is level.dat
#637 [04:01] <Guest_> and some other files
#638 [04:01] <Guest_> where should I put these
#639 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: We do not help with mods here
#640 [04:01] <DrDevil123> I have been having a number of problems with minecraft recently. First of all, I cant access my world saves or screenshots, there is nothing in the folders. i am playing on download, not browser. also, when i import a minecraft world, it doesnt show up under singleplayer. acn someone help?
#641 [04:01] <Faja92> tWHO here can help me with a problem with minecraft
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#643 [04:01] <Guest_> I don't want help about that mod
#644 [04:02] <Andrio> That looks like a world folder, not a mod
#645 [04:02] <Guest> wats wrong wit minecraft?
#646 [04:02] <Guest_> World folder?
#647 [04:02] <Faja92> I cant Get into and servers
#648 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> Guest: The SMP auth servers are down at the moment - please see Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#649 [04:02] <Necrodoom> session servers are down
#650 [04:02] <DrDevil123> saves folder
#651 [04:02] <Guest_> Where to put that world folder?
#652 [04:02] <Guest_> or saves
#653 [04:02] <Guest_> or whatever
#654 [04:02] <DrDevil123> i cant access them
#655 [04:02] <reglac111> what will come up when you try to connect to the minecraft servers?
#656 [04:02] <Faja92> thanks you
#657 [04:02] <DrDevil123> or screenshots
#658 [04:02] <Andrio> On Windows, it's %appdata%\.minecraft\saves
#659 [04:02] <Guest_> %appdata%/.minecraft/saves
#660 [04:02] <Guest_> ok
#661 [04:03] <Faja92> who long is it suspected to be
#662 [04:03] <Guest_> I'm in there
#663 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> N/a
#664 [04:03] <Guest_> now I'm putting these
#665 [04:03] <DrDevil123> i know, i went to that. ive been able to get texture packs, and mods but nothing else
#666 [04:03] <Guest_> btw Mojang go maintance
#667 [04:03] <Calinou> intentionally: why?
#668 [04:03] <reglac111> is there any way to connect to servers?
#669 [04:03] <Guest_> no reglac
#670 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> reglac111: not at this stage
#671 [04:03] <reglac111> =(
#672 [04:03] <Necrodoom> no MP
#673 [04:03] <reglac111> thanks
#674 [04:04] <Scott> Calinou: security issues
#675 [04:04] <DrDevil123> is anyone gonna help me?
#676 [04:04] <Calinou> about migrated accounts again
#677 [04:04] <Calinou> :P
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#679 [04:04] <Andrio> You can still play on offline mode servers, but very few servers use that setting.
#680 [04:04] <Faja92> How long is it supected to take
#681 [04:04] <DrDevil123> I have been having a number of problems with minecraft recently. First of all, I cant access my world saves or screenshots, there is nothing in the folders. i am playing on download, not browser. also, when i import a minecraft world, it doesnt show up under singleplayer. acn someone help?
#682 [04:04] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: asap
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#684 [04:04] <Faja92> Thanks you so much
#685 [04:05] <DrDevil123> I have been having a number of problems with minecraft recently. First of all, I cant access my world saves or screenshots, there is nothing in the folders. i am playing on download, not browser. also, when i import a minecraft world, it doesnt show up under singleplayer. acn someone help?
#686 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> DrDevil123: You can find the right place by going from the main menu to texture packs, open the folder, then go up a folder from there
#687 [04:05] <diamondboy20> i just changed my password and now i cant access any of my servers
#688 [04:05] <DrDevil123> i can get textures and mods, but not saves or screenshots
#689 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> diamondboy20: The SMP auth servers are down at the moment - please see Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#690 [04:06] <DrDevil123> there is no screenshot folder
#691 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> DrDevil123: A screenshot folder is normally created when the first screenshot is made
#692 [04:06] <DrDevil123> i know that. ive taken many screenshots
#693 [04:06] <diamondboy20> thanks Disk
#694 [04:07] <DrDevil123> i tried to get a custom map, but it didnt show up ingame
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#696 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> DrDevil123: Which custom map?
#697 [04:07] <DrDevil123> sawcraft
#698 [04:08] <DrDevil123> also, in saves it doesnt show my worlds
#699 [04:08] <Faja92> Wait WIll i have to use the migrated account forever or willi be able to use the regular one
#700 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> DrDevil123: When I go to download the sawcraft map, I get an FBI warning that the domain has been seized.
#701 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: The migrated account is what you now have to use
#702 [04:09] <DrDevil123> really? maybe its a different version
#703 [04:09] <diamondboy20> how long will it take for the servers to come back up
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#705 [04:09] <Faja92> Wait so everybody has to do this now
#706 [04:09] <DrDevil123> i deleted it anyway
#707 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Eventually, yes.
#708 [04:09] <diamondboy20> how long will it take for the servers to come back up
#709 [04:09] <Faja92> AHH
#710 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> diamondboy20: asap
#711 [04:09] <Faja92> DAMN
#712 [04:09] <diamondboy20> ok
#713 [04:10] <DrDevil123> but my saves in game dont appear in the saves folder
#714 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> DrDevil123: That sounds like quite the problem
#715 [04:10] <DrDevil123> yea
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#718 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> ??> DrDevil123 win/reinst
#719 [04:10] <VoxelHead> DrDevil123: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#720 [04:10] <VoxelHead> DrDevil123: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#721 [04:11] <DrDevil123> ok
#722 [04:11] <Faja92> I dont like this Why is minecraft getting so up tutsy
#723 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Parson?
#724 [04:12] <Faja92> huh
#725 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> What did you mean?
#726 [04:12] <reglac111> when will the server be back online?
#727 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> The authentication servers have been hacked, badly. They've been taken down until Mojang can fix things
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#729 [04:13] <Faja92> Why is minecraft getting so Secure and over protective And changing I dont like the fact that they are implacatung mods in the new update what cant it just stay the sam
#730 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: What are they doing with mods in the new update?
#731 [04:14] <DrDevil123> i ran it again, and my texture packs and mods were still there? is there a copy of that stuff somewhere?
#732 [04:14] <Dan> how about this guys they do NOT know when it will be back online till its back online so stop asking when will it be back online
#733 [04:14] <Dan> how about this guys they do NOT know when it will be back online till its back online so stop asking when will it be back online
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#735 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> DrDevil123: The instructions from before are to delete those
#736 [04:14] <DrDevil123> i did
#737 [04:14] <Faja92> The freaken enderchest and there are allowing people to cheat taking away from the game
#738 [04:15] <Faja92> and the emeralds
#739 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Change happens.
#740 [04:15] <Faja92> BUt this update is not the right kind of Change
#741 [04:15] <DrDevil123> i think that theres another copy somewhere on my computor, and mc is running on that copy
#742 [04:15] <Guest_> hey how to turn a survivial mod to creative mod in-game?
#743 [04:15] <reglac111> is it still ok to play minecraft single player?
#744 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> DrDevil123: If that's the case, you can use those earlier instructions about using the Texture Patk menu to get to the folder that your Minecraft is using
#745 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> reglac111: yes
#746 [04:16] <reglac111> ok thanks
#747 [04:16] <Guest_> "hey how to turn a survivial mod to creative mod in-game?" :/
#748 [04:16] <DrDevil123> ok
#749 [04:16] <Necrodoom> Guest_: cant
#750 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: You cannot with 1.2.5 at this stage
#751 [04:16] <Guest_> oh why :(
#752 [04:16] <Guest_> there is no way then :/
#753 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> Because that feature is coming in 1.3
#754 [04:16] <Guest_> ok
#755 [04:17] <Guest_> thank you!
#756 [04:17] <DrDevil123> OMG INCEPTION
#757 [04:18] <Faja92> DiskDaemon: Also the game is good And WHy change it DId you know that minecraft is becoming worse and the thrill of minecraft will decrease with people cheating and people will then get bored and not reccommend this to other peolpe and there for mojang Will lose profite
#758 [04:18] <DrDevil123> my copy of the stats was in the folder, but it was showing a fake one
#759 [04:18] <DrDevil123> WTF???
#760 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: You are welcome to stay with an earlier version of Minecraft. MC Nostalgia exists for that very purpose.
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#763 [04:19] <Faja92> well im was just making a statemeny for minecraft and losing money
#764 [04:20] <vincent> hey there, anyone else getting an error saying 503 failed to connect?
#765 [04:20] <Necrodoom> vincent: everyone
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#767 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Nobody here works for mojang or minecraft
#768 [04:20] <Faja92> Everyone is
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#770 [04:20] <vincent> necro: what's that mean?
#771 [04:20] <DrDevil123> U GUYS ROCK THANK U ALL
#772 [04:20] <DiskDaemon> vincent: The SMP auth servers are down at the moment - please see Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#773 [04:20] <Necrodoom> vincent: everyone.
#774 [04:20] <vincent> thanks guys!
#775 [04:20] <Und3ead> Hello whats the 503 error mean?
#776 [04:20] <Faja92> well then how can you guys answer some of the game Files and stuff
#777 [04:21] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Because we are skilled
#778 [04:21] <Faja92> LOL I am going to ask hard questins then
#779 [04:22] <Faja92> Where was the code Hero and # Brine
#780 [04:22] <DiskDaemon> We are also skilled at saying "we don't know" o hard questions ;)
#781 [04:22] <Faja92> lol okay
#782 [04:22] <Necrodoom> Faja92: theres no herobrine
#783 [04:22] <Faja92> yes i know but there was a code Hero some # and Brine
#784 [04:23] <Faja92> what file is it in
#785 [04:23] <Necrodoom> thats not a code?
#786 [04:23] <Und3ead> Notch cracks me up on what he tweets
#787 [04:23] <Und3ead> Also, in the future, if hackers could please not find exploits in the middle of the night on weekends, that would be great, mk?
#788 [04:23] <Faja92> well it was and it why he bacame to be
#789 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> For example: "Also, in the future, if hackers could please not find exploits in the middle of the night on weekends, that would be great, mk?"
#790 [04:23] <Und3ead> yes
#791 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> nnja'd :(
#792 [04:23] <Und3ead> lol
#793 [04:24] <Necrodoom> Faja92: its not a code, you pasted some random line
#794 [04:24] <Und3ead> can someone use their wizard powers and decode this 01000110010100110011
#795 [04:24] <Necrodoom> !binary 01000110010100110011
#796 [04:24] <Faja92> Yes
#797 [04:24] <Necrodoom> nv
#798 [04:24] <Und3ead> binary=Beast
#799 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> 01000110010100110011 = 0x46533
#800 [04:25] <jamy> Ping is getting high on servers. Is that a sign
#801 [04:25] <Faja92> 01000110010100110011 stands for fs
#802 [04:25] <Necrodoom> jamy: a sign of what
#803 [04:26] <Und3ead> ok this says something '01001110011011110111010001100011011010000010000001101001011100110010000001000010011011110101001101110011'
#804 [04:26] <jamy> Lol, dunno. Ping on servers average for me is bout 200ms, they are all now above 1000ms
#805 [04:26] <Und3ead> it says notch is boss
#806 [04:26] <jamy> ^
#807 [04:26] <Guest_> Is herobrine really Notch's brother?
#808 [04:26] <jamy> I believe so
#809 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> nope, lies
#810 [04:26] <Und3ead> lies
#811 [04:26] <jamy> ok
#812 [04:27] <Necrodoom> Guest_: herobrine doesnt exist
#813 [04:27] <Faja92> Thats bs
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#815 [04:27] <Necrodoom> Guest_: its a troll story
#816 [04:27] <Guest_> Oh.. :/
#817 [04:27] <Faja92> herobrine started as a code some one saw and they used there imagineation
#818 [04:27] <Guest_> Necrodoom: Thank you!
#819 [04:27] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Please back up your claims with some evidence
#820 [04:27] <jamy> And then came mods
#821 [04:27] <Necrodoom> Faja92: no code
#822 [04:27] <Necrodoom> just a troll story
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#824 [04:27] <Und3ead> 4e6f74636820697320426f5373
#825 [04:27] <Und3ead> hex=Boss
#826 [04:27] <Necrodoom> then people thought they are funny
#827 [04:27] <Necrodoom> and spammed it
#828 [04:28] <Guest_> Notch told herobrine removed in a update o.O
#829 [04:28] <Necrodoom> saying theres "ghosts in the minecraft code"
#830 [04:28] <Faja92> Its was sentance or something and at the end was hero then there was a number Then there was like brine
#831 [04:28] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: Notch also tells jokes. That was a joke.
#832 [04:28] <Necrodoom> then notch thought it was funny
#833 [04:28] <Guest_> Oh ok :D
#834 [04:28] <Necrodoom> and put jokes in update history
#835 [04:28] <Necrodoom> and in the end credits
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#837 [04:29] <Und3ead> Cause i like big BITS AND I CANNOT LIE
#838 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Und3ead: shut up
#839 [04:29] <Und3ead> i love the bits of meat
#840 [04:29] <Und3ead> ok
#841 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Und3ead: You aren't a bot? I apologies
#842 [04:29] <Faja92> 01001110011011110111010001100011011010000010000001101001011100110010000001000010011011110101001101110011 Means I think is Notch Is Boss
#843 [04:29] <Und3ead> its ok
#844 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Thank you, I'll be sure to pass on your regards to him when I see him
#845 [04:30] <diamondboy20> you know notch?
#846 [04:30] <Faja92> I was decodeig and YEs hE IS BOSS but WHy the hell did Jeb come in
#847 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> diamondboy20: No, I don't know Notch. It could be some time before I see him
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#849 [04:30] <Necrodoom> Faja92: notch doesnt work on minecraft anymore
#850 [04:30] <Necrodoom> he works on scrolls
#851 [04:30] <diamondboy20> lol
#852 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> 0x10^c is what he works on now
#853 [04:30] <Guest_> interesting
#854 [04:31] <Und3ead> Everyone go to Disk for questions hes a BOSS
#855 [04:31] <Guest_> so goodbye you guys!
#856 [04:31] <Guest_> cya'
#857 [04:31] <Faja92> Jeb IS being a bitch and messing everything up does notch still own a little bit of minecraft or does he have a royal thing
#858 [04:31] <sprog> anybody there speak german?
#859 [04:31] <Und3ead> me
#860 [04:31] <Und3ead> fjdskfks
#861 [04:31] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Notch has officially given Minecraft to Jeb
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#863 [04:32] <Necrodoom> Faja92: notch owns mojang, jeb is an employee of mojang
#864 [04:32] <Faja92> Damn it Notch
#865 [04:32] <diamondboy20> who is jeb
#866 [04:32] <Und3ead> jeb doesnt even update his feed
#867 [04:32] <Faja92> So Notch is Still Getting Payed
#868 [04:32] <Necrodoom> i prefer jeb than notch
#869 [04:32] <Und3ead> notch is still on top
#870 [04:32] <Necrodoom> jeb at least trys to fix bugs
#871 [04:32] <Faja92> I Think i SHould Meet Notch and Talk to HIm about FIreing Jeb
#872 [04:32] <diamondboy20> who is jeb
#873 [04:32] <Faja92> new owner of minecraft
#874 [04:32] <Necrodoom> notch just says "screw it" and moves to next feature
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#877 [04:33] <sd5> halo
#878 [04:33] <diamondboy20> who is jeb
#879 [04:33] <diamondboy20> who is jeb
#880 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Please take it to the #minecraft channel - #minecrafthelp is for people people with their technical problems
#881 [04:33] <Necrodoom> diamondboy20: a person
#882 [04:33] <Faja92> FUCK OFF diamondboy20
#883 [04:33] * AuBot kicked Faja92 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: aja92 :Please keep it civil.)
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#885 [04:33] <sd5> im from poland, where i can find support member
#886 [04:33] <sd5> ??
#887 [04:33] <Und3ead> LMFAO http://www.mojang.com/
#888 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> sd5: hi there
#889 [04:33] <sd5> i need help
#890 [04:33] <sd5> hi
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#892 [04:33] <Faja92> sorry
#893 [04:33] <darkshadows6663> any update on the servers?
#894 [04:33] <diamondboy20> hmmm
#895 [04:33] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Keep things civil please
#896 [04:34] <Und3ead> the smp servers are offline guys
#897 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: Still workig on it
#898 [04:34] <\r\n> I can't tell is Faja92 is a major idiot... or a troll...
#899 [04:34] <darkshadows6663> ... can still run my own server
#900 [04:34] <\r\n> Most likely both.
#901 [04:34] <sprog> anybody there speak german? and can help me? /pm
#902 [04:34] <Faja92> What are you trying to say \r\n
#903 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> sprog: Sorry, but no
#904 [04:34] <Necrodoom> Faja92: that you are an idiot and a troll
#905 [04:35] <diamondboy20> sorry no germans
#906 [04:35] <Und3ead> i dont find it safe with it showing my ip when i join or leave
#907 [04:35] <Faja92> What am i doing
#908 [04:35] <sd5> i have code 503 and i can't login into server. How long problem it by (sorry for my bad english)
#909 [04:35] <Und3ead> its ok
#910 [04:35] <\r\n> sprog: I think DiskDaemon speaks german.
#911 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: And that further outbursts are likely to gain you the attention of channel ops
#912 [04:35] <Und3ead> the servers are down
#913 [04:35] <Und3ead> sd5 : http://www.mojang.com/
#914 [04:35] <Faja92> diamondboy20 was spamming after i answered his quiestion
#915 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> Spracken zie deutch? Nien.
#916 [04:36] <Calinou> seriously, this channel when auth/session servers are down. :c
#917 [04:36] <diamondboy20> i sent it twice
#918 [04:36] <sd5> und3ead thank you :D
#919 [04:36] <diamondboy20> thats not spam
#920 [04:36] <Und3ead> no problem
#921 [04:36] <\r\n> DiskDaemon: I don't speak mandarin :(
#922 [04:36] <Faja92> and Further out burs
#923 [04:36] <Und3ead> i speak ASS
#924 [04:36] <Faja92> what are channel OPS
#925 [04:36] <Und3ead> its hard
#926 [04:36] <Bluenade> hey guys, a friend of mine is experiencing heavy lags after a few minutes ingame, any suggestions except RAM?
#927 [04:37] <DiskDaemon> ?? dont/pm
#928 [04:37] <VoxelHead> dont/pm: We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#929 [04:37] <Necrodoom> Faja92: OPerators
#930 [04:37] <Faja92> What Can THey do i know what a op is
#931 [04:37] <Necrodoom> Faja92: people with the abillity to ban you
#932 [04:37] <diamondboy20> channel ops are the bosses if you like
#933 [04:37] <DiskDaemon> sprog: Mojang have taken down then SMP auth servers - please read Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
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#935 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: For example, GreyVulpine, or DopeGhotim or mollstam
#936 [04:38] <Und3ead> Disk can i join your server later
#937 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> Und3ead: I run no servers sorry
#938 [04:38] <Und3ead> aww
#939 [04:38] <Faja92> DiskDaemon: i have never been banned and who are the perople you metioned
#940 [04:39] <diamondboy20> undead: go on epicraft
#941 [04:39] <Und3ead> im with TTG
#942 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: They are some of the people with the authority to ban people from this channel
#943 [04:39] <Und3ead> has anyone been on the TTG server?
#944 [04:39] <darkshadows6663> what is wrong with this chat please keep it to a minimum with threats and bad language its a Site to help people with mincraft
#945 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> Und3ead: The #smp channel is the place for discussing things about multiplayer channels
#946 [04:39] <diamondboy20> Und3ead no but go on epicraft
#947 [04:39] <Und3ead> ok thanks
#948 [04:40] <Und3ead> sorry disk
#949 [04:40] <Faja92> wheres the smp channe;s
#950 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> /join #smp
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#953 [04:41] <Und3ead> LMFAO
#954 [04:41] <Und3ead> i went the SUCKSASS channel
#955 [04:41] <Und3ead> now how to leave here
#956 [04:41] <Und3ead> hmm
#957 [04:41] <Und3ead> hmm
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#959 [04:41] <darkshadows6663> -.-
#960 [04:41] <angal> ))
#961 [04:42] * xXTWISTEDREALITYXx [xXTWISTEDREALITYXx@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#962 [04:44] <xXTWISTEDREALITYXx> so why are the servers down ??
#963 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> xXTWISTEDREALITYXx: Mojang have taken down then SMP auth servers - please read Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#964 [04:44] <darkshadows6663> SMP servers were taken down..
#965 [04:45] <xXTWISTEDREALITYXx> thanks disk
#966 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> Notch has just reported that it doesn't reveal anyones passwords either.
#967 [04:45] <diamondboy20> thats good
#968 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> So, it seems to be the old session hijack thing
#969 [04:45] <diamondboy20> oh so its not good
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#971 [04:46] <diamondboy20> ??
#972 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> Or at the very least, a new one that lets others log in as your own account on the gaming server
#973 [04:47] <diamondboy20> so that is bad
#974 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> That's why Mojang have taken them down for now
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#976 [04:47] <tylerm> hhhhhhhhhbjhjghjugukbguhugyftdterazwerWQQASRFYGHI
#977 [04:47] <DiskDaemon> tylerm: This time, in English?
#978 [04:48] <xXTWISTEDREALITYXx> i think they need a better firewall lol
#979 [04:48] <angal> ))
#980 [04:48] <tylerm> why are theservers down
#981 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> /smp tylerm
#982 [04:48] <tylerm> i was wondering
#983 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> tylerm: Mojang have taken down then SMP auth servers - please read Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#984 [04:49] <tylerm> ok can u explain what happend to me?
#985 [04:49] <tylerm> im confused
#986 [04:49] <DiskDaemon> From notch: "Exactly what that "something" is, I haven't understood yet. There's emails going on between people who seem to understand it, though. hm"
#987 [04:49] <tylerm> so they donty no
#988 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> They do know, and are working on it. It's too techy for Notch
#989 [04:50] <darkshadows6663> Heard from @xlson, and he seems to be making some progress. Lovely chap, that. :D
#990 [04:50] <darkshadows6663> woop
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#993 [04:51] <tylerm> ok so they are going to be fixing it sooon?
#994 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: WOuld you mind letting others know that such messages are what Notch said, when you post them?
#995 [04:51] * xXTWISTEDREALITYXx_ [xXTWISTEDREALITYXx_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#996 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> tylerm: Yes, for a given value of soon
#997 [04:51] <darkshadows6663> yes .. got lost in the copy..
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#1000 [04:51] <tylerm> does that mean a while?
#1001 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> tylerm: It means asap
#1002 [04:51] <tylerm> ok thank you so much for ur help
#1003 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#1004 [04:52] <lemon-rev> http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/wl0zy/psa_exploit_in_minecraft_login_server_hackers_can/ < mc related
#1005 [04:53] <DiskDaemon> Good old reddit - leading the way as per usual
#1006 [04:54] <lemon-rev> :)
#1007 [04:55] <DiskDaemon> Further details on the exploit are at http://www.reddit.com/r/mcpublic/comments/wl1nu/details_on_that_major_exploit_and_the_plan_moving/
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#1010 [05:02] <kyle> yo
#1011 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#1012 [05:02] <darkshadows6663> well this is going slow..
#1013 [05:02] <angal> ))
#1014 [05:02] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: It could be hours
#1015 [05:03] <darkshadows6663> so it seems :P
#1016 [05:03] <Faja92> THEY MADE progress
#1017 [05:03] <Calinou> patience is a virtue; it isn't the end of the world
#1018 [05:03] <kyle> wat progress
#1019 [05:03] <Calinou> (it sounds like, though)
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#1021 [05:03] <darkshadows6663> looks like the end of the minecraft world tho..
#1022 [05:03] <DiskDaemon> just temporarily until control is returned to its users
#1023 [05:03] <darkshadows6663> you can still host servers just is a little tricky to get them through..
#1024 [05:04] <Faja92> his way
#1025 [05:04] <kyle> faja what progress did they make
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#1027 [05:04] <Calinou> darkshadows6663, offline mode servers work
#1028 [05:04] <Bluenade> hey guys, a friend of mine is experiencing heavy lags after a few minutes ingame, any suggestions except RAM?
#1029 [05:05] <\r\n> What protocol version is 1.3?
#1030 [05:05] <darkshadows6663> view distance??
#1031 [05:05] <Faja92> I dont know yet i am Thinking and reading
#1032 [05:05] <kyle> ok lmk
#1033 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> Bluenade: lag is a networking issue that involves slow communications between client and server
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#1035 [05:05] <darkshadows6663> disk it depends what "lag" hes getting
#1036 [05:05] <\r\n> Why doesn't anyone know about Minecraft's Protocol here :(
#1037 [05:05] <darkshadows6663> since most people look upon low fps as "lag"
#1038 [05:05] <DiskDaemon> Lag is lag. There is only misunderstandings beyond that
#1039 [05:06] <Bluenade> okay, I meant a sudden fps drop
#1040 [05:06] <darkshadows6663> see..
#1041 [05:06] <Bluenade> sry about that
#1042 [05:06] <darkshadows6663> told you ...
#1043 [05:06] <Faja92> All i know is that IT has to do with the session ids and that people can logg in to anybody But Passwords ARe still safe
#1044 [05:06] <Calinou> \r\n, 38
#1045 [05:06] <darkshadows6663> well the security system isnt top notch... ..
#1046 [05:06] <DiskDaemon> Thanks, more accurate information helps us to diagnose your problem
#1047 [05:06] <\r\n> You sure, Calinou?
#1048 [05:06] <Bluenade> view distance doesn't affect his problem
#1049 [05:06] <darkshadows6663> i cant affect the fps..
#1050 [05:06] <Calinou> probably...
#1051 [05:06] <Faja92> tthat is True THe security could BE better BUt...
#1052 [05:06] <darkshadows6663> it can*Æ
#1053 [05:06] <darkshadows6663> ..
#1054 [05:06] <\r\n> Probably? ._.
#1055 [05:06] <Calinou> darkshadows6663, it's top jeb: P
#1056 [05:07] <darkshadows6663> phuns..
#1057 [05:07] <darkshadows6663> damn i need 2 get a new table now -.-
#1058 [05:07] <darkshadows6663> so much better sitting leaned back writing -.-
#1059 [05:08] <darkshadows6663> ... wait the RAM souldnt affect hes fps ... its hes grafics card .. it might be over heating @ bluenade ..
#1060 [05:08] <Calinou> or CPU
#1061 [05:08] <Calinou> minecraft being both CPU and GPU-intensive
#1062 [05:08] <darkshadows6663> or CPU for that matter but the CPU sould have a hard time overheating..
#1063 [05:09] <darkshadows6663> unless u live in an airtight space..
#1064 [05:09] <Bluenade> so, any ideas beside view distance? It run well until a month ago. And he plays BF3 without problems
#1065 [05:09] <darkshadows6663> recently blew up a nuke on the server?
#1066 [05:09] <darkshadows6663> loading into a big hole?
#1067 [05:09] <darkshadows6663> .. sould only lagg the first time tho..
#1068 [05:09] <darkshadows6663> if you have alot of running water it laggs the server ..
#1069 [05:10] <darkshadows6663> and causes major fps lagg. ..
#1070 [05:10] <darkshadows6663> fps drops *
#1071 [05:10] <Bluenade> we tried it without mods, we also tried it with optifine (basic, smooth and multicore)
#1072 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> Bluenade: Have you tried it on a different computer?
#1073 [05:11] <Bluenade> yes
#1074 [05:11] <Bluenade> it runs well
#1075 [05:11] <darkshadows6663> well if hes friend is experience FPS issues .. and he aint..
#1076 [05:11] <DiskDaemon> So we know that it's just something about the computer causing the problem
#1077 [05:11] <darkshadows6663> thers obviously a problem with hes friends computer..
#1078 [05:12] <darkshadows6663> what could magicly cause FPS to drop rapidly ..
#1079 [05:12] <DiskDaemon> All indications seem to indicate a heat issue
#1080 [05:12] <darkshadows6663> well yea..
#1081 [05:12] <Calinou> Bluenade, singleplayer or multiplayer?
#1082 [05:12] <darkshadows6663> but could also be an issue wit JAVA..
#1083 [05:12] <Calinou> try creating a new world in singleplayer and see if the issues happens
#1084 [05:12] <darkshadows6663> server Online in that case
#1085 [05:12] <darkshadows6663> MP
#1086 [05:12] <Bluenade> both single and multiplayer
#1087 [05:13] <Calinou> darkshadows6663, java isn't an acronym :P
#1088 [05:13] <darkshadows6663> im tierd -.-
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#1090 [05:13] <darkshadows6663> leave me be :(
#1091 [05:13] <Bluenade> he tried reinstalling java 6, 7 and both in 32 and 64 bit
#1092 [05:13] <DiskDaemon> Bluenade: So we now know those are not related to the problem
#1093 [05:13] <as> i need some help?
#1094 [05:14] <DiskDaemon> as: how can we help?
#1095 [05:14] <darkshadows6663> curiosity ... what is hes specs bluenade?
#1096 [05:14] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: A dxdiag report could help with that
#1097 [05:15] <Bluenade> okay, gimme a moment
#1098 [05:15] <darkshadows6663> yea ...
#1099 [05:15] <DiskDaemon> ??> Bluenade win/dxdiag
#1100 [05:15] <VoxelHead> Bluenade: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1101 [05:15] <VoxelHead> Bluenade: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1103 [05:15] <IcyMountains> Can anyone help me please?
#1104 [05:15] <DiskDaemon> what with?
#1105 [05:15] <IcyMountains> My minecraft has messed up
#1106 [05:16] <darkshadows6663> only thing i can think of that would cause FPS to drop drasticly within seconds of starting the game is either the view distance or hes grafics card being severly overheated..
#1107 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: Can we get some details?
#1108 [05:16] <IcyMountains> I cant connect to any servers
#1109 [05:16] <darkshadows6663> @ that point tho the fan sould be close to red..
#1110 [05:16] <Faja92> ITS FIXED ON ALL YOUR SERVERS
#1111 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: Mojang have taken down then SMP auth servers - please read Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#1112 [05:16] <darkshadows6663> SMP servers r down ..
#1113 [05:16] <Faja92> NO THEY ARENT
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#1115 [05:16] <as> everytime i try to join my server again, it says connection lost and says some kind of response code
#1116 [05:16] <Faja92> Try agani
#1117 [05:16] <darkshadows6663> 503 as
#1118 [05:16] <IcyMountains> The auth?
#1119 [05:16] <DiskDaemon> as: Please see that SMP info I posted just above
#1120 [05:16] <darkshadows6663> you cant connect due to SMP servers are down
#1121 [05:16] <IcyMountains> What are auth servers?
#1122 [05:17] <Faja92> Its up agin
#1123 [05:17] <darkshadows6663> authentication servers
#1124 [05:17] <IcyMountains> I know what
#1125 [05:17] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Please stop that until we gain confirmation from Mojang
#1126 [05:17] <Faja92> I Just logged in again Guys trust me
#1127 [05:17] <darkshadows6663> Faja92 -.- please. stop being like that..
#1128 [05:17] <Necrodoom> tried to log, 503 error
#1129 [05:17] <Necrodoom> Faja92 a troll
#1130 [05:18] <darkshadows6663> well obviously -.-
#1131 [05:18] <kyle> duh
#1132 [05:18] <darkshadows6663> they arent up intill we get confirmation from Notch or Mojang..
#1133 [05:18] <Faja92> WTF im leaveing YOu guys think iam some Mother Fu**en Bit* Dont beleive Me GOd
#1134 [05:18] <kyle> no shit u dumbass
#1135 [05:18] <Necrodoom> any voice or OP?
#1136 [05:19] <darkshadows6663> -.
#1137 [05:19] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: Yes thank you. Please leave.
#1138 [05:19] <Faja92> BYE
#1139 [05:19] <as> ok so the servers are down?
#1140 [05:19] <darkshadows6663> please keep the rude language to a minimum..
#1141 [05:19] <Necrodoom> as: yes
#1142 [05:19] <IcyMountains> SO they wont be online anytime soon?
#1143 [05:19] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: correct
#1144 [05:19] <darkshadows6663> @icymountains as of right now we dont know ..
#1145 [05:19] <IcyMountains> Damn
#1146 [05:19] <as> so since the servers are offline, that would explain my connection lost problem?
#1147 [05:19] <DiskDaemon> as: that's right
#1148 [05:19] <darkshadows6663> yes
#1149 [05:19] <IcyMountains> I can see 1 person online, though
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#1151 [05:20] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: The auth servers dont stop people remaining connected
#1152 [05:20] <IcyMountains> Also
#1153 [05:20] <darkshadows6663> aslong as you dont disconnect from the server you sould be fine ..
#1154 [05:20] <Bluenade> dxdiag incoming soon...
#1155 [05:20] <darkshadows6663> ok bluenade
#1156 [05:20] <IcyMountains> Why are they down, I dont understand.
#1157 [05:20] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: security issues
#1158 [05:20] <Necrodoom> major exploit found in auth
#1159 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> IcyMountains: Mojang have taken down then SMP auth servers - please read Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#1160 [05:21] <darkshadows6663> check the link ..
#1161 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> Details there ^
#1162 [05:21] <Bluenade> okay, should I just post it here...?
#1163 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> ??> Bluenade win/dxdiag
#1164 [05:21] <VoxelHead> Bluenade: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1165 [05:21] <VoxelHead> Bluenade: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1166 [05:21] <DiskDaemon> Bluenade: using pastebin
#1167 [05:22] <as> so how long until the servers are back up, anybody have a clue?
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#1169 [05:22] <DiskDaemon> as: asap
#1170 [05:22] <Bluenade> http://pastebin.com/m3CCPCU0
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#1172 [05:23] <Faja92> I stand corrected I am sorry guys
#1173 [05:23] <Necrodoom> inb4 he trolls again
#1174 [05:23] <Faja92> a good server thats works is 68.64.50.34:25589
#1175 [05:23] <Necrodoom> and here we go
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#1177 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> WIll someone please kickban Faja92?
#1178 [05:24] <tyteen4a03> try !kick
#1179 [05:24] <Faja92> Im sorry i logged in and it let me go in
#1180 [05:24] <Necrodoom> dont use that IP, guys!
#1181 [05:24] <tyteen4a03> voiced people have access to the bot
#1182 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> !kick Faja92
#1183 [05:24] <Necrodoom> !kick
#1184 [05:24] <darkshadows6663> right ..
#1185 [05:24] <IcyMountains> ........................................................................................
#1186 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> !k Faja92
#1187 [05:24] <tyteen4a03> hmm
#1188 [05:24] <Faja92> Im Sorry
#1189 [05:24] <tyteen4a03> I have no idea then, if they didn't give you access
#1190 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> tyteen4a03: It's not voiced people here
#1191 [05:24] <Necrodoom> wtf
#1192 [05:24] <IcyMountains> Thanks guys
#1193 [05:25] <IcyMountains> For all ur help
#1194 [05:25] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: it used to be voiced+
#1195 [05:25] <darkshadows6663> i cant see anything thats out of the ordinary with these settings bluenade it sould be enough to run minecraft without a problem..
#1196 [05:25] <Faja92> The Owner Wendezzz which i asked nicely set it to offline so sorry GUys i woe all of you a aplolgy
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#1198 [05:25] <Necrodoom> Faja92: go to #smp, now.
#1199 [05:25] <tylerm> so
#1200 [05:25] <tylerm> um as s
#1201 [05:25] <Faja92> thoe
#1202 [05:25] <Faja92> how
#1203 [05:26] <darkshadows6663> ./join #smp
#1204 [05:26] <Necrodoom> dont click Faja92's IP, might be a malicious one
#1205 [05:26] <tylerm> as soon as the server come back up im never leaving them ever again #painintheass
#1206 [05:26] <Faja92> It not mine google aurora Wendezzz
#1207 [05:26] <Necrodoom> Faja92: idiot, read rules
#1208 [05:27] <Necrodoom> Faja92: no server ips allowed on #Minecrafthelp
#1209 [05:27] <tylerm> yeah dumbass
#1210 [05:27] <Faja92> okay
#1211 [05:27] <tylerm> kick him
#1212 [05:27] <darkshadows6663> @bluenade do you know if the pc is getting enough cooling?
#1213 [05:27] <Faja92> Hey I didnt KNow i am sorry
#1214 [05:27] <Bluenade> okay, he just reproduced the problem with gpuz running and the gpu runs cold
#1215 [05:27] <Necrodoom> Faja92: you got told 5 times
#1216 [05:27] <Necrodoom> Faja92: dont lie
#1217 [05:28] <Faja92> No I have NEver Posted a Ip In this chat beofre
#1218 [05:28] <tylerm> tylerm:yo
#1219 [05:28] <darkshadows6663> would someone please kick Faja92?
#1220 [05:28] <tylerm> tylerm: yo
#1221 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: That's going to require intervention from an op, such as GreyVulpine, DopeGhoti, Kealper, mollstam, or xales
#1222 [05:29] <Faja92> :(
#1223 [05:29] <Faja92> ?rules
#1224 [05:29] <darkshadows6663> @Diskdaemon i cant see anything wrong with these specs .. that Bluenade provided..
#1225 [05:29] <tylerm> faja justt leave
#1226 [05:29] <\r\n> [02:23] <Faja92> a good server thats works is *.*.*.*:25589
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#1228 [05:29] <Faja92> How do i get the Rules
#1229 [05:29] <\r\n> My logs beg to differ.
#1230 [05:29] <Faja92> i am doing / rules
#1231 [05:29] <\r\n> Faja92: /topic #minecrafthelp
#1232 [05:29] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: It's a mystery
#1233 [05:30] <Faja92> it say i have to be a channel operator
#1234 [05:30] <\r\n> then just do /topic
#1235 [05:30] <darkshadows6663> well @bluenade running many programs in the background might cause this .. due to taking up processes...
#1236 [05:30] <tylerm> channel rules are at the top read them and leave theres a link
#1237 [05:30] <Faja92> topic
#1238 [05:30] <\r\n> ...
#1239 [05:30] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: You are using webchat - the topic information is shown always at the top of your screen
#1240 [05:31] <Faja92> tinsufficient Arguments
#1241 [05:31] <Bluenade> but then it wouldn't run fine for 3 to 4 minutes
#1242 [05:31] <darkshadows6663> it wouldnt run fine if u cancelled off processes in the background @bluenade?
#1243 [05:33] <Bluenade> if cpu/ram would run at the limit, minecraft wouldn't run without problems
#1244 [05:33] <darkshadows6663> the CPU wont under any circumstances run @ full capacity when using minecraft it shouldnt atleast..
#1245 [05:34] <Faja92> It never said i coulnt post a Ip
#1246 [05:34] <Necrodoom> someone ping grey :/
#1247 [05:34] <Bluenade> and it doesn't. so why can backround processes be bad?
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#1250 [05:34] <bozo97> how do i talk to about mods??
#1251 [05:34] <DrDevil123> i tried installing some mods, and this showed up:
#1252 [05:34] <DrDevil123> Mods loaded: 1
#1253 [05:35] <DiskDaemon> ??> bozo97 mods
#1254 [05:35] <Faja92> ahh
#1255 [05:35] <VoxelHead> bozo97: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1256 [05:35] <VoxelHead> bozo97: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1257 [05:35] <Faja92> well there has to be more to that
#1258 [05:35] <DrDevil123> wait 1 sec
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#1260 [05:35] <bozo97> i need to talk to someone about mod help
#1261 [05:35] <DrDevil123> it wont let me paste it
#1262 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: This channel does not provide help with mods
#1263 [05:36] <jordonbc> can someone help me?
#1264 [05:36] <bozo97> who do i talk to about it
#1265 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> jordonbc: With what?
#1266 [05:36] <jordonbc> my server
#1267 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: Info about that was given you you a short time ago by VoxelHead
#1268 [05:36] <darkshadows6663> @bluenade the background proccesses take power from the processor .. meaning less "power" to the acctual game you playing that could be a porblem with a Dual core processor ..
#1269 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> jordonbc: Mojang have taken down then SMP auth servers - please read Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#1270 [05:36] <blinky> Mc Autenthication Servers Are down!
#1271 [05:36] <DiskDaemon> blinky: We know.
#1272 [05:37] <bozo97> ok then but u should do help with everything to do with the game
#1273 [05:37] <jordonbc> thanks that helps alot :)
#1274 [05:37] <DiskDaemon> bozo97: Read the info from VoxelHead about why we don't
#1275 [05:38] <darkshadows6663> damnit ages since ive used mIRC @diskdaemon how the devil do i change the colour on this window again .. it hurts my eyes with so many people chatting @ the same time
#1276 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: Color fo what part?
#1277 [05:38] <darkshadows6663> background
#1278 [05:38] <darkshadows6663> the white colour..
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#1280 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: Turn down the brightness setting of your computer screen
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#1282 [05:40] <Bluenade> hm okay... he says he will try later-.-
#1283 [05:40] <darkshadows6663> meh changed the colour to orange..
#1284 [05:41] <darkshadows6663> @bluenade i cant see any other problem that might cause this ... then again im not there with the computer thats acting up..
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#1286 [05:42] <darkshadows6663> still no update from notch .. .. or the other places ..
#1287 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> It could be a while
#1288 [05:42] <Bluenade> okay thanks, I will be back, when he retried
#1289 [05:42] <Bluenade> cya
#1290 [05:42] <darkshadows6663> ok goodbye
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#1293 [05:46] <fejku> returned http response code 503 for url , why this problem
#1294 [05:46] <DiskDaemon> fejku: Mojang have taken down then SMP auth servers - please read Notch's post at https://twitter.com/notch/status/224409514428989440 and follow Notch's updates for further info. There's more details about this on the http://www.mojang.com front page too.
#1295 [05:46] <fejku> thanks.
#1296 [05:46] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: get a bot
#1297 [05:46] * DiskDaemon needs a bot :)
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#1298 [05:46] <fejku> how much i must wait?
#1299 [05:47] <DiskDaemon> as long as it takes
#1300 [05:47] <Andrio|Away> what about VoxelHead?
#1301 [05:47] <fejku> ...
#1302 [05:47] <oric92> hi Ive a question
#1303 [05:47] <DiskDaemon> Andrio|Away: From what I'm aware of, only ops have permission to edit VoxelHead
#1304 [05:47] <DiskDaemon> Andrio|Away: From what I'm aware of, only ops have permission to edit VoxelHead
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#1307 [05:56] <Faja92> I am sorry Though
#1308 [05:56] <Necrodoom> Faja92: you arent.
#1309 [05:57] <Faja92> yes I am
#1310 [05:57] <Necrodoom> Faja92: you arent.
#1311 [05:57] <Faja92> I Swear to god I am
#1312 [05:57] <Necrodoom> Faja92: you arent.
#1313 [05:57] <Faja92> Necrodoom: I PROMISE on my ligfe and you can come kill me That i am sorry
#1314 [05:57] <Necrodoom> Faja92: you arent.
#1315 [05:57] <Faja92> i am :(
#1316 [05:58] <Necrodoom> Faja92: you arent.
#1317 [05:58] <Faja92> I swear to you i am
#1318 [05:59] <Necrodoom> [automsg]
#1319 [06:00] <Faja92> what do i do to prove it to you that i am sorry
#1320 [06:00] <DiskDaemon> Faja92: You can please not let this carry on.
#1321 [06:00] <Faja92> okay I read the rules
#1322 [06:01] <Faja92> I Am sorry for lmy self fish Behaviors
#1323 [06:01] <as> are the servers up again?
#1324 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> as: that's going to take some time
#1325 [06:01] <as> ok
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#1327 [06:07] <Aidan1> i think the servers are up
#1328 [06:07] <angal> Yup.
#1329 [06:07] <DiskDaemon> Confirmation from https://twitter.com/xlson/status/224444654421164032
#1330 [06:08] <DiskDaemon> The sauth auth servers are back up
#1331 [06:09] <Faja92> Thanks DiskDaemon
#1332 [06:11] <as> ahh glad to hear that the servers are back up
#1333 [06:11] <as> thanks
#1334 [06:11] <mark_b> On average how long does mojang take to reply to e-mails, i've been waiting some 30+ days now.
#1335 [06:12] <DiskDaemon> Scott: Woulds you mind putting the topic back to what it was again?
#1336 [06:12] <DiskDaemon> mark_b: There's around a two month backlog
#1337 [06:13] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1338 [06:14] <mark_b> yikes, thanks
#1339 [06:14] <mark_b> yikes, thanks
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#1341 [06:33] <darkshadows6663> eh... an news?
#1342 [06:33] <darkshadows6663> wow faja left?
#1343 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> The auth servers are back up https://twitter.com/xlson/status/224444654421164032
#1344 [06:43] <jordonbc> hi
#1345 [06:43] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#1346 [06:45] <MineWonder> hi
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#1348 [07:02] <MineWonder> Is the minecraft forums being worked on
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#1351 [07:03] <DiskDaemon> MineWonder: What seems to be the problem?\
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#1353 [07:04] <MineWonder> I keep getting this 500 - unexpected error messege when i post on a thread
#1354 [07:04] <siksiksik> >|>|>|>>> BLACK CAVIAR IS BACK IN AUSTRALIA || ALL NEWS-FORUMS-VIDEOS-PHOTOS ARE @ WWW.BLACKCAVIARFORUM.COM <<<|<|<|<
#1355 [07:04] <siksiksik> >|>|>|>>> BLACK CAVIAR IS BACK IN AUSTRALIA || ALL NEWS-FORUMS-VIDEOS-PHOTOS ARE @ WWW.BLACKCAVIARFORUM.COM <<<|<|<|<
#1356 [07:04] <siksiksik> >|>|>|>>> BLACK CAVIAR IS BACK IN AUSTRALIA || ALL NEWS-FORUMS-VIDEOS-PHOTOS ARE @ WWW.BLACKCAVIARFORUM.COM <<<|<|<|<
#1357 [07:04] <siksiksik> >|>|>|>>> BLACK CAVIAR IS BACK IN AUSTRALIA || ALL NEWS-FORUMS-VIDEOS-PHOTOS ARE @ WWW.BLACKCAVIARFORUM.COM <<<|<|<|<
#1358 [07:04] <siksiksik> >|>|>|>>> BLACK CAVIAR IS BACK IN AUSTRALIA || ALL NEWS-FORUMS-VIDEOS-PHOTOS ARE @ WWW.BLACKCAVIARFORUM.COM <<<|<|<|<
#1359 [07:04] <siksiksik> >|>|>|>>> BLACK CAVIAR IS BACK IN AUSTRALIA || ALL NEWS-FORUMS-VIDEOS-PHOTOS ARE @ WWW.BLACKCAVIARFORUM.COM <<<|<|<|<
#1360 [07:04] <MineWonder> spam much?
#1361 [07:05] <MineWonder> Its probably my browser
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#1363 [07:23] <peru_> if he pasted it only once i wouldve clicked it but now i will not
#1364 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> Good idea - he's been spamming like that for nearly a month now
#1365 [07:24] <jordonbc> bye
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#1371 [07:58] <Serone> are the auth server back?
#1372 [07:58] <Serone> ???????/
#1373 [08:01] <Boreeas> Apparently so, yes
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#1376 [08:04] <zryze> how do i stop my minecraft from crashing saying not enough memory or theres a problem with the java virtual machine
#1377 [08:04] <zryze> its very annoying and happens every 30seconds to a minute
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#1379 [08:05] <zryze_> can anyone help me
#1380 [08:06] <zryze_> my minecraft constantly says not enough memory or theres a problem with java virtual machine
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#1385 [08:22] <Invisible|> Hello all :)
#1386 [08:25] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#1387 [08:34] <Invisible|> Hrm... yesterday I searched all the time about the bug and how to fix it, didn't find anything... just after joining the channel here I found the search-words to find it. *chuckles* So the channel here helps! :D
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#1389 [08:36] <DiskDaemon> Invisible|: Glad to be of service :)
#1390 [08:38] <Invisible|> :)
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#1404 [10:04] <plus> Hello, I want my minecraft ign or username to be Plausibility, not plausibility. The only difference is a capital letter, can I get this changed plz?
#1405 [10:05] <computerdude5000> you would have to go threw mojang to get that done
#1406 [10:05] <plus> what would be the best route to go about doing that?
#1407 [10:07] <computerdude5000> acutally i just found the answer you can't at this point in time http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329525
#1408 [10:08] <plus> ok :( thanks
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#1416 [10:36] <norio> hey guys, do you know how to install optifine and HDpatcher for linux?
#1417 [10:38] <Calinou> norio, same as on windows, but the minecraft folder is: ~/.minecraft
#1418 [10:38] <KingOfChaos> hi. The Plugin is Chatmanager: What must i type in, that in red the Group of the player behind the name stands? sry for my bad english
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#1421 [10:40] <Scrubby> How can I undo a forced update?
#1422 [10:41] <DiskDaemon> You can't.
#1423 [10:41] <DiskDaemon> Or rather, you can if you have a backup from beforehand
#1424 [10:41] <Scrubby> The update messed up netherbrick and fire
#1425 [10:42] <Scrubby> It made netherbrick look like water, and fire is a text block that says: fire
#1426 [10:42] <norio> Calinou, but HDpatcher is an autoexecutable. Or can I choose directory and run it through Wine?
#1427 [10:43] <DiskDaemon> When using a mod, the item and block id's can become changed in the map as a part of dealing with certain conflicts.
#1428 [10:43] * Calinou facepalms miserably
#1428 [10:43] <DiskDaemon> That might be what you're seeing there
#1429 [10:43] <Calinou> use the .jar
#1430 [10:43] <Calinou> "all other OS" > .jar
#1431 [10:43] <Scrubby> Can it be fixed?
#1432 [10:43] <Scrubby> or am I stuck with this?
#1433 [10:43] <DiskDaemon> ??> Scrubby mods
#1434 [10:43] <VoxelHead> Scrubby: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-pa
#1435 [10:43] <VoxelHead> Scrubby: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1436 [10:43] <Scrubby> but I don't use mods
#1437 [10:44] <DiskDaemon> Scrubby: What is messed up about your netherbrick and fire?
#1438 [10:44] <Scrubby> It made netherbrick look like water, and fire is a text block that says: fire
#1439 [10:44] <DiskDaemon> Scrubby: Do you get the same problem with a new map?
#1440 [10:45] <Scrubby> this is on multiplayer servers and single player and its the same with new maps
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#1442 [10:45] <DiskDaemon> Scrubby: That seems to indicate that you have a texturepack problem then
#1443 [10:46] <Scrubby> ok so if i switch back to the original it will go away?
#1444 [10:46] <DiskDaemon> Try it out
#1445 [10:46] <Scrubby> k thanks
#1446 [10:48] <Scrubby> that did it thanks for the help
#1447 [10:48] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#1464 [12:18] <jordonbc> hi
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#1466 [12:19] <poopsie007> heelo?
#1467 [12:20] <poopsie007> anyone here?
#1468 [12:20] <jordonbc> hi
#1469 [12:20] <poopsie007> A-ha! Awesome :)
#1470 [12:20] <poopsie007> ok here is the dilemma - the minecraft game keeps freezing up and crashing
#1471 [12:20] <poopsie007> any idea how to stop it from doing that?
#1472 [12:21] <DiskDaemon> poopsie007: Sure, we can help
#1473 [12:21] <jordonbc> is the auth server up yet?
#1474 [12:21] <DiskDaemon> yes, it's up now
#1475 [12:21] <poopsie007> @DiskDaemon - thank you :)
#1476 [12:21] <jordonbc> YES!!! i can get on my server!!
#1477 [12:22] <jordonbc> thanks :)
#1478 [12:22] <DiskDaemon> poopsie007: What details can you give about the situation?
#1479 [12:22] <DiskDaemon> It's nearly 4:30am for me so my brain is like jelly, but others here can help
#1480 [12:22] <poopsie007> we bought the game last week and downloaded it on the family laptop
#1481 [12:22] <poopsie007> there are no programs running in the background
#1482 [12:22] <poopsie007> the game freezes up about ever 15 to 20 min :(
#1483 [12:22] <jordonbc> got to go bye
#1484 [12:23] <poopsie007> the grandmother has to do a hard restart as even the curser goes
#1485 [12:23] <poopsie007> DiskDaemon - 430am?? where are you sitting - :O
#1486 [12:23] <poopsie007> did you just wake up or are you still up??
#1487 [12:26] <DiskDaemon> well currently I'm sitting in frustration, because my internet cut out for a few minutes just now. I'm still up from the day before
#1488 [12:26] <poopsie007> Good night DiskDaemon!
#1489 [12:26] <DiskDaemon> cheers
#1490 [12:26] <poopsie007> is there anyone else that can assist with the crashing of the program?
#1491 [12:27] <poopsie007> :'(
#1492 [12:33] <VoxelHead> Today, I will be mostly wearing... my breeches and my sandals
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#1495 [12:34] <poopsie007> HELP?
#1496 [12:35] <poopsie007> How do i prevent game crashes?
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#1498 [12:36] <ini> hey i have a server but everytime i try to join it will say downloading terrain they it will time out how can i fix this?
#1499 [12:37] <Calinou> ini, any error message in the console?
#1500 [12:37] <ini> 2 sec let me check
#1501 [12:37] <ini> no there isnt
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#1503 [12:38] <Calinou> there should always be one when they time out
#1504 [12:38] <Calinou> with the reason of the disconnect
#1505 [12:38] <ini> i found one
#1506 [12:38] <ini> 17:38:32 CONSOLE: [SEVERE] at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method) 17:38:32 CONSOLE: [SEVERE] at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source) 17:38:32 CONSOLE: [SEVERE] at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source) 17:38:32 CONSOLE: [SEVERE] at java.net.AbstractPlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source) 1
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#1508 [12:39] <poopsie007> ?
#1509 [12:39] <Calinou> ?? pastebin
#1510 [12:39] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1511 [12:39] <Calinou> poopsie007, not talking to you
#1512 [12:39] <ini> o ok
#1513 [12:39] <poopsie007> oh ok :)
#1514 [12:39] <Calinou> poopsie007, press windows+E, then right click an empty space in that "folder", then click "properties"
#1515 [12:39] <Calinou> see if your system is 64 bits
#1516 [12:40] <poopsie007> ok 2 sec
#1517 [12:41] <Calinou> poopsie007, if it is: uninstall any other versions of java first, then download this: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#1518 [12:41] <Calinou> (windows x64)
#1519 [12:42] <poopsie007> I have the game on a 64 bit thing
#1520 [12:42] <poopsie007> oh ok.... uninstall all java then reinstall java 6?
#1521 [12:42] <Calinou> poopsie007, then do what I said, yes
#1522 [12:42] <poopsie007> i will try that :)
#1523 [12:43] <poopsie007> thank you soo very much for this start :)
#1524 [12:44] <ini> http://pastebin.com/s70Zkz5K
#1525 [12:45] <ini> calinou theres the link http://pastebin.com/s70Zkz5K
#1526 [12:45] <Calinou> ini, paste the WHOLE log...
#1527 [12:45] <ini> all of server log
#1528 [12:45] <Calinou> oh, you're using bukkit?
#1529 [12:45] <Calinou> consider asking in #bukkit instead ;)
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#1537 [12:57] <DODODAAN> Hello, when to register on multiplayer on my new minecraft acoount it says: '' You have extended the max number of registration for your account.'' but wat does that mea?
#1538 [12:57] <DODODAAN> mean
#1539 [12:58] <Calinou> DODODAAN, are you trying to register/buy an account on minecraft.net?
#1540 [12:58] <Calinou> ?? scam
#1541 [12:58] <VoxelHead> scam: If you bought from or were given a gift code that was bought from anywhere but minecraft.net it's a scam. Mojang does not give out discounts for purchasing gift codes so there's absolutely no profit to be made.
#1542 [12:58] <VoxelHead> scam: DO NOT purchase minecraft from any site other than minecraft.net, under any circumstances, period.
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#1544 [12:59] <DODODAAN> I have already buy an account but i want to register on multiplayer
#1545 [12:59] <Calinou> you don't "register on multiplayer"
#1546 [12:59] <Calinou> if you're playing on a server with an authentication plugin, deal with it, we don't support modified servers
#1547 [13:00] <DiskDaemon> I suspect that the server thinks that there are other people from your same IP that are already registered on that server
#1548 [13:01] <DODODAAN> But when i want to play it says that i have to make an password
#1549 [13:02] <Calinou> because you're playing on a server with a specific auth plugin.
#1550 [13:02] <DiskDaemon> You'll have to contact one of the op's at the server
#1551 [13:03] <DODODAAN> i don't get it
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#1553 [13:03] <DiskDaemon> DODODAAN: You are having trouble connecting to a multiplayer server, right?
#1554 [13:03] <DODODAAN> yes
#1555 [13:04] <DiskDaemon> Then get in touch with someone who runs the server. That someone is called an op (an operator) at the server.
#1556 [13:04] <DODODAAN> How?
#1557 [13:05] <DiskDaemon> Go to the web site for the server, and they provide the information there
#1558 [13:05] <DODODAAN> ok
#1559 [13:06] <DODODAAN> thnx
#1560 [13:06] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#1561 [13:06] <DiskDaemon> I swear that the more exhausted I get, the more lucid my typing becomes.
#1562 [13:08] <poopsie007> #Calinou - I have followed your superb steps and given the lap top to shorties for testing - I hope that there are no more crashes .... paws crossed
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#1564 [13:08] <Eddie> Calinou is not here
#1565 [13:08] <poopsie007> #DiskDaemon - you are a rockstar!
#1566 [13:11] <\r\n> >hashtags
#1567 [13:11] <\r\n> >IRC
#1568 [13:11] <\r\n> ... channels?
#1569 [13:11] * \r\n is attempted to join #DiskDaemon now.
#1569 [13:12] <\r\n> *tempted
#1570 [13:13] <Boreeas> Shouldn't you be in #Moose?
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#1573 [13:21] <skyboy> #meese*
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#1575 [13:31] <VoxelHead> I like them =]
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#1579 [13:44] <blockhead453> I cant play minecraft. it keeps coming up fatal error. any advice?
#1580 [13:45] <DiskDaemon> When does that occur, while it's updating?
#1581 [13:46] <blockhead453> no, like wen i click on multiplayer and click on a server. while its loading, it comes up with a fatal error
#1582 [13:46] <DiskDaemon> What details does it give on the fatal error?
#1583 [13:46] <blockhead453> um
#1584 [13:46] <DiskDaemon> um?
#1585 [13:46] <blockhead453> lemme try logging in agian
#1586 [13:47] <blockhead453> an error occured while loading the applet. then it says Fatal error occured ( 7 )
#1587 [13:48] <blockhead453> im cluelessabout whats going on o_o
#1588 [13:48] <DiskDaemon> ??> blockhead453 win/reinst
#1589 [13:48] <VoxelHead> blockhead453: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1590 [13:48] <VoxelHead> blockhead453: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1591 [13:49] <blockhead453> ok. im glad i didnt download it o_o
#1592 [13:49] <DiskDaemon> waht do you mean?
#1593 [13:50] <blockhead453> im playing it for free
#1594 [13:50] <DiskDaemon> pirated?
#1595 [13:50] <blockhead453> no...
#1596 [13:51] <blockhead453> i play the classic version o_o
#1597 [13:51] <DiskDaemon> Ahh. Classic is too old to work with Java 7. You'll need to remove that and install Java 6 instead
#1598 [13:51] <blockhead453> o_O
#1599 [13:51] <blockhead453> lemme see wat version i do have
#1600 [13:52] <blockhead453> it doesnt say. i only have the 32 bit
#1601 [13:53] <DiskDaemon> Go to the Java panel in your control panel
#1602 [13:53] <blockhead453> im there
#1603 [13:53] <VoxelHead> YOU'RE there? feel these nipples!
#1604 [13:53] <DiskDaemon> Okay, go to the Java tab
#1605 [13:53] <blockhead453> wth O_O
#1606 [13:53] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead: shut up
#1607 [13:53] <VoxelHead> Nnk.
#1608 [13:54] <DiskDaemon> DopeGhoti: Please keep VoxelHead under control
#1609 [13:54] <TheNoodle> lol
#1610 [13:54] <blockhead453> im there o_O
#1611 [13:54] <DiskDaemon> There will be a View button
#1612 [13:54] <blockhead453> i hit that o_O
#1613 [13:54] <blockhead453> i got platform 1.7
#1614 [13:55] <DiskDaemon> That's Java 7, which is why you can't play classic.
#1615 [13:55] <blockhead453> but i was just playing it yesterday
#1616 [13:55] <blockhead453> me & xist r in a castle building contest D:
#1617 [13:55] <DiskDaemon> What changed?
#1618 [13:55] <blockhead453> nothing that i know of. i just deny the installing updates thingy
#1619 [13:56] <DiskDaemon> why?
#1620 [13:56] <blockhead453> bc
#1621 [13:56] <blockhead453> the computer works better with it
#1622 [13:56] <blockhead453> * without
#1623 [13:56] <blockhead453> ill unistill java 7 and get java 6
#1624 [13:56] <blockhead453> im hoping it helps o_e
#1625 [13:56] <DiskDaemon> THe multiplayer servers went down earlier today for several hours, to fix some security problems. Your not updating thinigs is why you are not failing.
#1626 [13:56] <DiskDaemon> * are now failing
#1627 [13:57] <DiskDaemon> It's now far to late for me to be up, at 6am. So I'm going to sleep.
#1628 [13:57] <blockhead453> okie nite
#1629 [13:58] <blockhead453> voxelhead ur weird O_O
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#1631 [13:59] <tylerm> whats an auth srever
#1632 [13:59] <tylerm> ?
#1633 [13:59] <blockhead453> huh o_o
#1634 [13:59] <tylerm> server
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#1637 [14:04] <jediknight7> I try to run minecraft but after signing in it just gives me an error
#1638 [14:04] <jediknight7> hello
#1639 [14:05] <jediknight7> anybody there
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#1641 [14:06] <jediknight7> my minecraft keeps crashing after i login
#1642 [14:07] <jediknight7> anybody There?
#1643 [14:07] <jediknight7> anybody There?
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#1646 [14:09] <Hakio`> Hey someone can help me? i have problem when a join server i have error with bad packet 72
#1647 [14:09] <Hakio`> i try to join with default minecraft and spout launcher same error
#1648 [14:09] <Hakio`> i try to join with default minecraft and spout launcher same error
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#1650 [14:10] <VoxelHead> i wish they didn't have to go :~(
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#1652 [14:11] <jediknight7_> is anyone here
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#1654 [14:17] <needhelp> so it says this when i open minecraft: <html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>
#1655 [14:18] <needhelp> and i cant login
#1656 [14:18] <needhelp> i get can't connect to minecraft.net
#1657 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> You're using Java 7
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#1659 [14:18] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall it, reinstall 6 instead
#1660 [14:18] <needhelp> thanks
#1661 [14:19] <Sylvain> hello
#1662 [14:19] <needhelp> that a really easy fix.
#1663 [14:20] <Sylvain> I need help on xbox, since the update of 08-13
#1664 [14:22] <Sylvain> sorry 07-13 :)
#1665 [14:25] <Sylvain> I can't move the camera with RS, with 2 users in one console
#1666 [14:27] <Sylvain> Hi
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#1668 [14:30] <Sylvain> Hello
#1669 [14:31] <Sylvain> .
#1670 [14:32] <Sylvain> hello
#1671 [14:32] <Sylvain> hello
#1672 [14:32] <Sylvain> hello
#1673 [14:33] <Sylvain> hello
#1674 [14:33] <Sylvain> hello
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#1676 [14:33] <Boreeas> ??> Sylvain spam
#1677 [14:33] <Sylvain> no
#1678 [14:33] <Boreeas> Sylvain: Please, stop the spam
#1679 [14:34] <Sylvain> I wait a answer please
#1680 [14:34] <Boreeas> Then wait silently and patiently
#1681 [14:34] <Boreeas> Saying "hello" every couple seconds is not a way to get an answer
#1682 [14:34] <Sylvain> ok I sorry
#1683 [14:35] <Sylvain> have you see my question ?
#1684 [14:35] <Boreeas> Knowledge about the XBox version is rare, it can take a long time until someone with experience notices your question.
#1685 [14:35] <Sylvain> ok
#1686 [14:35] <Sylvain> thank you
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#1689 [14:39] <Pblue_> my minecraft keeps crashing saying this
#1690 [14:39] <Pblue_> hold on...
#1691 [14:40] <Pblue_> nvm i lost the paste so...
#1692 [14:40] <Pblue_> nvm i lost the paste so...
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#1695 [14:46] <ryan_> hi accedintally migrated both of my accounts now i can only use one what do i do
#1696 [14:46] <ryan_> anyone?
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#1699 [14:47] <ryan_> helo can anyone help
#1700 [14:47] <ryan_> hi accedintally migrated both of my accounts now i can only use one what do i do
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#1707 [15:14] <K3V1N> any1 here?
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#1710 [15:34] <linkfan1896> I know they just fixed the authentication server bug that was preventing me from logging in before, but is there still some sort of problem with them?
#1711 [15:39] <linkfan1896> I'm still having issues connecting to any servers and I'm getting the "Bad Login" error
#1712 [15:43] <Hakio`> Hey someone can help me? i have problem when a join server i have error with bad packet 72
#1713 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Hakio` - Usually means there's a mod of some sort that's interfering with the server. Either you have a mod that's incompatible, or the server has a mod that you don't
#1714 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - Did you pay for minecraft?
#1715 [15:44] <Hakio`> i try with the default minecraft and spout launcher same error server use spout
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#1717 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> If the server uses spout, then you don't have the mod the server does
#1718 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to determine what mod the server has installed, so you can install it as well on your client
#1719 [15:45] <Hakio`> i am tadmin of the serv and didnt install any mod just plugin
#1720 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Same difference
#1721 [15:47] <Hakio`> hm
#1722 [15:47] <linkfan1896> Yes I paid for minecraft
#1723 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - Have you tried closing down minecraft and re-logging in?
#1724 [15:47] <Hakio`> Other player dl same spout link and have no problem its strange
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#1726 [15:47] <linkfan1896> Yes, I have tried that
#1727 [15:48] <linkfan1896> Before the authentication servers were fixed I was getting "Failed to verify username" but now I'm not getting that anymore, I'm pretty sure someone was using my account.
#1728 [15:48] <Hakio`> when i try to join another serv i have bad packet 250
#1729 [15:48] <VoxelHead> linkfan1896 - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#1730 [15:48] <wippler> Hey guys quick question: I'm running a server on my macbook pro, with 2gb allocated to Minecraft. The server itself never gets any errors or anything, but the ping is really high, and the server has a very long delay when playing on it. Any ideas? There are never more than 3 online at a time..
#1731 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> wippler - Type of network?
#1732 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - That should've been fixed
#1733 [15:49] <wippler> 5gb up/ 20gb down
#1734 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - See http://www.mojang.com/2012/07/houston-we-have-a-problem/
#1735 [15:49] <wippler> err mb
#1736 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> wippler - I very highly doubt you're getting 5gb up
#1737 [15:49] <wippler> i'll run a quick speedtest again
#1738 [15:49] <linkfan1896> I'm aware that /that/ issue was fixed, now I'm getting the bad login message.
#1739 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - Usually means the login token's bad or expired
#1740 [15:50] <MineWonder> Does toomanyitems mod not work with the lastest snapshot
#1741 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> MineWonder - Usually not
#1742 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - Or the server's unable to authenticate your login token
#1743 [15:50] <MineWonder> lame
#1744 [15:50] <MineWonder> I need to clear out my sphere but i cant get enough tnt
#1745 [15:50] <linkfan1896> Hmm, I am able to login to minecraft.net and mojang.com
#1746 [15:51] <wippler> Okay, says I have a 4.23mbps up
#1747 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - Are you running the server?
#1748 [15:51] <linkfan1896> Remotely, yes
#1749 [15:51] <Hakio`> GreyVulpine how i can install what i need ? its possible to install plugin on client ?
#1750 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - Is the server able to connect to session.minecraft.net?
#1751 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - Is it able to resolve that address?
#1752 [15:52] <linkfan1896> I'm not sure, I tried connecting to multiple servers
#1753 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Hakio` - I have no idea. There's hundreds of plugins/mods out there
#1754 [15:52] <GreyVulpine> Hakio` - Any one of them can cause that bad packet ID error.
#1755 [15:52] <Hakio`> But why other player have no problem when they join they no need to dl and install plugin on there client
#1756 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> I can't tell you. I don't use spout
#1757 [15:54] <linkfan1896> I checked the server log, doesn't seem to have any problems connecting
#1758 [15:54] <Hakio`> Ok thx
#1759 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> linkfan1896 - Upon a client connecting, the server checks the client's login token against minecraft's session server to authenticate that it is indeed, a valid login. If the server cannot connect/resolve session.minecraft.net, or if the session server sends back that the login token is invalid, the server will deny the client from connecting, telling it has a 'bad login'
#1760 [15:55] <linkfan1896> Alright, how can I check if it can connect or not?
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#1762 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> Have the server ping session.minecraft.net, see if it can resolve that address
#1763 [15:57] <linkfan1896> Hmm, is it possible to use the server console to ping it? I don't have access to the computer it's being hosted on
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#1765 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1766 [15:57] <linkfan1896> Alright, well then I can't do that.
#1767 [15:58] <linkfan1896> I will download vanilla server, try to connect to that and ping session.minecraft.net from my own computer
#1768 [16:00] <linkfan1896> Alright, when I ping it from the command prompt from my own computer while running vanilla server, all packets are lost
#1769 [16:00] <linkfan1896> I'm assuming this means that there's still an issue with the auth servers?
#1770 [16:02] <oldtopman> !login
#1771 [16:02] <wippler> I'm running a server on my macbook pro, with 2gb allocated to Minecraft. The server itself never gets any errors or anything, but the ping is really high, and the server has a very long delay when playing on it. There are never more than 3 online at a time..20mbps down / 4 mbps up.. Anyone?
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#1773 [16:03] <lemon-rev> t
#1774 [16:03] <oldtopman> They all time out from here too, but I can login to my server
#1775 [16:03] <oldtopman> It seems that session.minecraft.net doesn't respond to pings.
#1776 [16:04] <linkfan1896> Strange. Mine all fail but I cannot connect to my own server
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#1778 [16:09] <Elystus> linkfan1896: What is happening?
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#1780 [16:09] <linkfan1896> I was affected by the auth server loophole or whatever you want to call it and couldn't play on servers earlier. Now I still cannot, but the message is now "Bad login." I can't connect to any online servers including one I just put up on my own computer.
#1781 [16:10] <linkfan1896> I'm still able to login to my accounts via mojang.com and minecraft.net, so the login information is correct
#1782 [16:11] <Elystus> is it just your own server that you are unable to connect to?
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#1784 [16:11] <Elystus> ^disregard that
#1785 [16:12] <Elystus> linkfan1896: Did you try pinging the sessions servers as Grey suggested?
#1786 [16:12] <linkfan1896> I did
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#1788 [16:12] <linkfan1896> All were lost
#1789 [16:12] <Elystus> did it say request timed out?
#1790 [16:13] <linkfan1896> Yes, four times
#1791 [16:13] <Elystus> Okay, so that is not the problem.
#1792 [16:14] <Elystus> Are you unable to connect through both the launcher and the browser?
#1793 [16:14] <linkfan1896> I haven't tried playing in browser, I will try now
#1794 [16:17] <MineWonder> bad login usually means the host hasnt opened the server yet
#1795 [16:17] <Elystus> MineWonder: he had problems on multiple servers
#1796 [16:17] <linkfan1896> I've tried three different servers, one had a bunch of people already on it
#1797 [16:17] <MineWonder> oh
#1798 [16:18] <linkfan1896> This is strange. I can connect through the in-browser version
#1799 [16:19] <Elystus> Hmmm...
#1800 [16:20] <linkfan1896> I will try again from launcher
#1801 [16:21] <Elystus> it sounds like connection from the launcher to the session server is being blocked by something.
#1802 [16:22] <Elystus> I would suggest shutting down all fire walls and antivirus's
#1803 [16:22] <linkfan1896> Alright, I'll try that
#1804 [16:25] <linkfan1896> Still a nope from launcher
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#1806 [16:25] <linkfan1896> I noticed in my firewall settings that I have a ton of versions of Java, could that be an issue?
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#1808 [16:26] <Elystus> I doubt it, but we could try getting rid of all the un-needed versions of java.
#1809 [16:27] <Elystus> If you can make a lsit of the ones you have, I can tell you which ones to unisntall.
#1810 [16:27] <Elystus> list*
#1811 [16:30] <wippler> anyone can help with high ping on server??
#1812 [16:31] <Elystus> Choose a diffrent server or get better internet.
#1813 [16:31] <Elystus> That really is the only way.
#1814 [16:31] <linkfan1896> I'm not sure exactly how to find a list of java versions
#1815 [16:32] <linkfan1896> I just saw a bunch of "Java SE Binary"s in the list of allowed programs
#1816 [16:32] <Elystus> open command
#1817 [16:32] <Elystus> prompt
#1818 [16:32] <linkfan1896> java -version?
#1819 [16:32] <Elystus> yes
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#1821 [16:33] <linkfan1896> Oh, apparently I don't have that many, firewall probably still had old versions that were deleted
#1822 [16:34] <linkfan1896> Right now I have 1.7.0_02-b13
#1823 [16:34] <Elystus> You said that disabling your firewall and anti-virus did nothing, correct?
#1824 [16:34] <linkfan1896> right
#1825 [16:34] <linkfan1896> Could it be a setting in my router?
#1826 [16:34] <Elystus> I know this is simple, but have you tried restarting minecraft?
#1827 [16:34] <linkfan1896> Yes
#1828 [16:35] <chris> hello
#1829 [16:35] <Elystus> o/
#1830 [16:35] <linkfan1896> I will probably disconnect for a second, every time I change a router setting my router resets
#1831 [16:36] <chris> my minecraft keeps freezing when it says done loading any HELP?
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#1833 [16:37] <chris> any HELP?
#1834 [16:38] <chris> My minecraft keeps freezing when it says done loading when i log in ANY HELP FOR ME?
#1835 [16:39] <Elystus> Lets try and get an error report chriss.
#1836 [16:39] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1837 [16:39] <Elystus> Follow the instructions found there.
#1838 [16:39] <chris> ok
#1839 [16:41] <linkfan1896> Alright, I'm out of ideas. Couldn't find any settings in the router that were wrong
#1840 [16:42] <Elystus> This is an odd problem. is there any more to the connection error?
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#1842 [16:45] <linkfan1896> I don't know, but I can now confirm that someone used my account, as my server was attacked by some "Team Dontstopgriefing" and is now empty
#1843 [16:47] <Elystus> O.o
#1844 [16:48] <chris> sorry i dot get the crash report sorry
#1845 [16:48] <Elystus> Chris: Do you have windows?
#1846 [16:48] <chris> yes
#1847 [16:49] <Elystus> Download this and run it
#1848 [16:49] <Elystus> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/crash_report_method_3.bat
#1849 [16:49] <Elystus> Its the same thing, just done for you.
#1850 [16:50] <chris> and run minecraft or windows
#1851 [16:50] <Elystus> run the file I jsut gave you.
#1852 [16:50] <Elystus> just*
#1853 [16:50] <chris> ok
#1854 [16:50] <chris> did
#1855 [16:50] <Elystus> Did it launch minecraft?
#1856 [16:50] <chris> yes
#1857 [16:51] <Elystus> now replicate the crash
#1858 [16:51] <chris> it says loging in and then freezes when it says done downloading
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#1860 [16:52] <chris> logging
#1861 [16:52] <Elystus> Chris: there should be a text file named log.txt in the same place aas your launcher now.
#1862 [16:52] <Elystus> as*
#1863 [16:53] <chris> ok
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#1865 [16:53] <Elystus> can you post what is in there on pastebin.com
#1866 [16:54] <chris> you want me to go to that website
#1867 [16:54] <Elystus> yes and paste what you found in the log.txt file there.
#1868 [16:56] <chris> where is he log.txt there
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#1871 [17:02] <Rakan> it keeps saying bad disk drives and i wanna update its says im on the latest verzion already but im not please help
#1872 [17:03] <Rakan> wat
#1873 [17:04] <VoxelHead> mmm Rakan
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#1875 [17:05] <Rakan> how do i update bad disk drive i tryed to do it but it says updated to latest
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#1878 [17:08] <rak> how to update bad diskdrives
#1879 [17:08] <Scott> wat
#1880 [17:08] <Scott> bad disk drives?
#1881 [17:09] <rak> how do i update bad disk drives for minecraft?
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#1883 [17:09] <rak> video card drives
#1884 [17:10] <rak> imean
#1885 [17:10] <Boreeas> ??> rak win/dxdiag
#1886 [17:10] <VoxelHead> rak: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1887 [17:10] <VoxelHead> rak: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1889 [17:10] <libotimo97> my download will not load the update page
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#1891 [17:10] <libotimo97> i cant login
#1892 [17:10] <oldtopman> ??< win/reinst/bat
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#1895 [17:11] <PaladinPete> is there an irc channel for making player skins?
#1896 [17:11] <PaladinPete> because i have a request :)
#1897 [17:11] <Boreeas> Try #minecraft
#1898 [17:11] <PaladinPete> lol omg boreeas really?
#1899 [17:11] <libotimo97> is there anyone that can help me with my problem
#1900 [17:11] <Boreeas> Or the minecraft forums
#1901 [17:12] <PaladinPete> [17:09:53]<PaladinPete> is there an irc channel for making player skins?
#1902 [17:12] <PaladinPete> [17:10:08]<SmilingDevil> You can ask #minecrafthelp
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#1904 [17:12] <PaladinPete> XD
#1905 [17:12] <Boreeas> No, we mainly give tech support
#1906 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> We dont make.. player skins
#1907 [17:12] <Boreeas> We make... player art
#1908 [17:12] <PaladinPete> its just funny that i got a response to go back to #minecraft
#1909 [17:12] <PaladinPete> thats all lol
#1910 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1911 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> Minecraft forums for player skins
#1912 [17:12] <Grim_Reaper> Or google
#1913 [17:13] <PaladinPete> im trying to find a Chaz Ashley skin from Phantasy Star IV
#1914 [17:13] <PaladinPete> or find someone that's good with skins and make one for me
#1915 [17:13] <PaladinPete> that's why im asking
#1916 [17:13] <Boreeas> Yeah, not here probably
#1917 [17:13] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/15-skins/
#1918 [17:13] <PaladinPete> thank you
#1919 [17:13] <Elystus> find a taking requests thread
#1920 [17:13] <PaladinPete> Elystus++
#1921 [17:14] <Elystus> <3
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#1923 [17:16] <rak> wheres the IRC channel
#1924 [17:17] <Elystus> Which one rak?
#1925 [17:18] <rak> the one to paste this thing this guy told me to do for the bad video card drives
#1926 [17:18] <Grim_Reaper> It's this one
#1927 [17:19] <rak> http://pastebin.com/ZxQPSdPF
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#1930 [17:20] <rak> its the one im typing in
#1931 [17:20] <Boreeas> rak: Are you using a laptop?
#1932 [17:20] <rak> desktop
#1933 [17:21] <rak> is it
#1934 [17:21] <rak> im so confused someone help please
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#1936 [17:22] <Boreeas> rak: Try this: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/12-6-legacy_vista_win7_32_dd_ccc.exe
#1937 [17:22] <rak> will it work
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#1939 [17:22] <rak> k its downloadin
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#1941 [17:24] <infin17us> If no one is busy at the moment, would someone like to help me figure out why my MC isn't giving off any sound? :)
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#1943 [17:25] <teetor> Hai
#1944 [17:25] <Elystus> infin17us: Try a force update
#1945 [17:25] <Elystus> Hey teetor
#1946 [17:25] <teetor> I had actually come on to see if anyone needed/wanted help
#1947 [17:26] <infin17us> Trying that now, Elystus. =)
#1948 [17:26] <teetor> ive been on here before, just not with this username :D
#1949 [17:26] <Boreeas> teetor: Oh, yes, we do. rak needs help.
#1950 [17:26] <teetor> whats up rak?
#1951 [17:26] <teetor> what seems to be the problem?
#1952 [17:26] <rak> well bad video card drive
#1953 [17:26] <teetor> driver?
#1954 [17:27] <teetor> ah
#1955 [17:27] <rak> yea
#1956 [17:27] <teetor> what model video card do you have
#1957 [17:27] <teetor> or rather brand
#1958 [17:27] <rak> ATI
#1959 [17:27] <teetor> ATI?
#1960 [17:27] <teetor> hmm
#1961 [17:27] <teetor> what model
#1962 [17:27] <rak> 2007
#1963 [17:27] <teetor> ok let me look up what the latest version is
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#1965 [17:28] <rak> k
#1966 [17:28] <teetor> is it a Radon?
#1967 [17:28] <Elystus> rak: I think that may not meet minimum requirements, but let me check
#1968 [17:28] <teetor> That is certainly a possibility Elystus, but it may just be a outdated driver
#1969 [17:29] <teetor> It has happened to me before
#1970 [17:29] <rak> yea
#1971 [17:29] <Elystus> It seems to surpass the minimum requirements.
#1972 [17:29] <Elystus> but barely.
#1973 [17:29] <rak> oh
#1974 [17:29] <infin17us> Is it normal during a force update for it to not go higher than 1-3% on lwjgl.jar?
#1975 [17:29] <teetor> depends on your connection infin
#1976 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Not normal, AVG causes this
#1977 [17:30] <teetor> slow connection means slow download
#1978 [17:30] <teetor> what Grey?
#1979 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Disable AVG's linkscanner module
#1980 [17:30] <GreyVulpine> Causes false positive on lwjgl
#1981 [17:30] <infin17us> K, I'll try that.
#1982 [17:30] <rak> so wat should i do
#1983 [17:30] <teetor> oh i see infin
#1984 [17:31] <teetor> ok rak as elystus stated your card meets minimum reqirments, barely
#1985 [17:31] <ryan_the_leach> anyone know what makes a head accessory get rendered in minecraft? I've been attempted to write php avatars for it. working : http://taamc.com/scripts/avatar.php?name=loopyluke http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/loopyluke.png not working : http://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftSkins/Yaystenny.png www.taamc.com/scripts/avatar.php?name=Yaystenny The white bit on Yaystennys face does not
#1986 [17:31] <ryan_the_leach> get rendered in minecraft.
#1987 [17:31] <infin17us> And like magic the download works. Thanks Grey. =D
#1988 [17:31] <teetor> rak one thing ive found to help with my system, is a program called Game Booster
#1989 [17:31] <infin17us> And my sound is fixed. You guys rock socks. Thanks! =D
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#1991 [17:32] <teetor314> sorry lagged out
#1992 [17:32] <teetor314> grrr
#1993 [17:33] <ryan_the_leach> also ive found that REDUCING the ram minecraft is allowed to use reduces random lag spikes
#1994 [17:33] <teetor314> depends on your system
#1995 [17:33] <ryan_the_leach> easiest way ive found to do that is with the "magic launcher"
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#1999 [17:34] <Elystus> infin17us: Good to hear! :D
#2000 [17:34] <teetor314> magic launcher has never played nice with me lol
#2001 [17:35] <Boreeas> That can actually happen if the GC takes too long, especially with hold-the-world implementations.
#2002 [17:35] <teetor314> anyone else needing help?
#2003 [17:36] <teetor314> correct boreeas
#2004 [17:37] <ryan_the_leach> hold-the-world?
#2005 [17:37] <ryan_the_leach> id love a different way to fix it if you know one
#2006 [17:37] <Boreeas> Stopping the execution of the entire process to take care of GC.
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#2008 [17:38] <retasim> hello?
#2009 [17:38] <infin17us> So I went to use mcpatcher to add the AutoSwitchMod and InvTweaks mods into the game and the sound disabled again...I've gone back and fixed it so that the sound is working, but does that mean I'm doing something wrong or that the mods are killing the sound output?
#2010 [17:38] <ryan_the_leach> hi
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#2012 [17:38] <Boreeas> ryan_the_leach: Well, if you don't want to use Magic Launcher, a bat file to set those options is probably the easiest
#2013 [17:38] <retasim> I've been having trouble with getting on servers
#2014 [17:38] <retasim> it keeps giving me a bad login, but my account is premium
#2015 [17:39] <ryan_the_leach> i dont mind magic launcher actually, its just reducing the ram to 256 doesnt entirely remove the problem, just makes it MUCH less noticeable and happen less often
#2016 [17:39] <teetor314> ok retasim are you using the defualt launcher, or a magic launcher type launcher
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#2018 [17:39] <retasim> i'm using the one from the site
#2019 [17:39] <retasim> i downloaded the one from minecraft.net
#2020 [17:39] <teetor314> ok so the default
#2021 [17:39] <teetor314> are you running any mods?
#2022 [17:40] <ryan_the_leach> retasim when was the last time you downloaded it?
#2023 [17:40] <retasim> yesterday
#2024 [17:40] <teetor314> have you tried flushing your .jar?
#2025 [17:40] <retasim> also, teetor314 i'm not running any mods
#2026 [17:40] <teetor314> ok
#2027 [17:41] <retasim> flushing my .jar?
#2028 [17:41] <ryan_the_leach> (force update)
#2029 [17:41] <teetor314> if you hit options
#2030 [17:41] <teetor314> then force updat
#2031 [17:41] <teetor314> *update
#2032 [17:41] <teetor314> that will redownload your .jar
#2033 [17:41] <retasim> force update?
#2034 [17:41] <retasim> but i downloaded it yesterday D:
#2035 [17:42] <teetor314> you downloaded the minecraft.exe correct?'
#2036 [17:42] <retasim> i believe i did
#2037 [17:42] <teetor314> you didnt download the actual game
#2038 [17:42] <teetor314> just the launcher
#2039 [17:43] <retasim> i have the .minecraft folders
#2040 [17:43] <teetor314> the force update will redownload the bin folder inside the .minecraft folder
#2041 [17:44] <teetor314> your saves and texture packs, etc. will be perserved
#2042 [17:44] <infin17us> So I went to use mcpatcher to add the AutoSwitchMod and InvTweaks mods into the game and the sound disabled again...I've gone back and fixed it so that the sound is working, but does that mean I'm doing something wrong or that the mods are killing the sound output?
#2043 [17:44] <ryan_the_leach> teetor314 your really good at this support stuff
#2044 [17:45] <retasim> i don't see where you can update it
#2045 [17:45] <teetor314> ok open the minecraft.exe
#2046 [17:45] <teetor314> hit options
#2047 [17:45] <teetor314> and theres a button that says force update
#2048 [17:46] <ryan_the_leach> http://screensnapr.com/v/xDDhNf.png
#2049 [17:46] <teetor314> probably should have thought of that :P
#2050 [17:47] * teetor314 goes to find my screen shot program for future use
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#2051 [17:48] <teetor314> welcome link
#2052 [17:48] <linkfan1896> Hello
#2053 [17:48] <Elystus> Wb
#2054 [17:48] <retasim> teetor, the actual minecraft.exe file or the luancher?
#2055 [17:49] <linkfan1896> I just tried to connect on a computer that was able to connect to other accounts, was unsuccessful, so it's not on my end after all
#2056 [17:49] <teetor314> they are the same retasim
#2057 [17:49] <Elystus> link, try going on a computer that is not on your network.
#2058 [17:49] <teetor314> the launcher will use the minecraft.exe program to launch
#2059 [17:49] <linkfan1896> I did
#2060 [17:49] <retasim> ohh :3
#2061 [17:49] <retasim> lol
#2062 [17:49] <Elystus> linkfan1896: Are you sure that it is on Mojangs end?
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#2064 [17:50] <ryan_the_leach> also a few of my users on the server went missing cause their accounts auto migrated
#2065 [17:50] <ryan_the_leach> try logging in with your email?
#2066 [17:50] <teetor314> What issue is link having elystus
#2067 [17:50] <linkfan1896> I had my friend connect to his account and then directly after connect to my account
#2068 [17:50] <linkfan1896> Bad login
#2069 [17:50] <teetor314> ah ok
#2070 [17:51] <linkfan1896> Once again he could log in, he just could not connect to servers
#2071 [17:51] <Smartydaniel> Hello, I'm having a problem with my server I connected through localhost and it still wont work
#2072 [17:51] <Elystus> linkfan1896: You said that someone had used the sessions stealer on you?
#2073 [17:51] <linkfan1896> Yes
#2074 [17:51] <teetor314> Elystus dont know if you heard, but the miencraft login servers were down a couple days ago
#2075 [17:51] <teetor314> ok Smart I would be happy to assist you
#2076 [17:51] <Smartydaniel> thanks
#2077 [17:51] <teetor314> is the server a bukkit server or vanilla?
#2078 [17:51] <Smartydaniel> bukkit
#2079 [17:51] <Elystus> teetor314: I know, but this should not be an issue that is account wide.
#2080 [17:52] <ryan_the_leach> teetor314 more like hours
#2081 [17:52] <Elystus> linkfan1896: I will ask someone from Mojang to look at your account.
#2082 [17:52] <linkfan1896> Alright. I sent a support email a couple days ago about the session stealer thing
#2083 [17:52] <Elystus> linkfan1896: Is linkfan1896 your minecraft ign?
#2084 [17:52] <linkfan1896> No, it is not
#2085 [17:52] <Elystus> what is it?
#2086 [17:52] <linkfan1896> linkfan_ is
#2087 [17:52] <Elystus> okay thanks
#2088 [17:52] <linkfan1896> and case.switch.adam@gmail.com is my mojang account
#2089 [17:53] <teetor314> let me refresh real fast
#2090 [17:53] <Elystus> try not to share that >_>
#2091 [17:53] <Smartydaniel> ok
#2092 [17:53] <linkfan1896> I realized after I posted it
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#2094 [17:53] <teetor314> ok better i can see the top of the screen lol
#2095 [17:53] <Smartydaniel> lol
#2096 [17:53] <teetor314> did someone try to PM me?
#2097 [17:54] <Elystus> !paid linkfan_
#2098 [17:54] <Elystus> okay thats fine.
#2099 [17:54] <Elystus> Marc is looking into it right now.
#2100 [17:54] <teetor314> ok so smarty did your server show any errors on startup?
#2101 [17:55] <Smartydaniel> no
#2102 [17:55] <teetor314> ok hmm
#2103 [17:55] <teetor314> can you post your startup log on pastie.org? and post the link here
#2104 [17:55] <Smartydaniel> ok
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#2106 [17:56] <orkaa> hi!
#2107 [17:56] <Smartydaniel> Last login: Sun Jul 15 17:20:54 on ttys000 /Users/danielcapuano/Desktop/BukkitServer/start.command ; exit; Daniel-Capuanos-MacBook:~ danielcapuano$ /Users/danielcapuano/Desktop/BukkitServer/start.command ; exit; 182 recipes 27 achievements 17:23:34 [INFO] Starting minecraft server version 1.2.5 17:23:34 [INFO] Loading properties 17:23:34 [INFO] Starting Minec
#2108 [17:56] <teetor314> no post it on pastie
#2109 [17:56] <orkaa> I have a mob farm question
#2110 [17:56] <Smartydaniel> oh wait on paistie?
#2111 [17:56] <teetor314> not on here smart
#2112 [17:56] <Smartydaniel> oh lol
#2113 [17:56] <orkaa> i found this pic: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Mob_spawning_ranges.png
#2114 [17:56] <retasim> dammit
#2115 [17:56] <orkaa> and i'm thinking about ranges...
#2116 [17:56] <retasim> it got rid of my optifine
#2117 [17:56] <teetor314> http://pastie.org/
#2118 [17:56] <teetor314> @smarty
#2119 [17:56] <orkaa> so effective range is 24-32
#2120 [17:57] <Smartydaniel> yeah
#2121 [17:57] <orkaa> because otherwise mobs won't move
#2122 [17:57] <linkfan1896> I still think it's odd that I could connect through the browser, but not the launcher
#2123 [17:57] <orkaa> and won't step into my canals
#2124 [17:57] <orkaa> ?
#2125 [17:58] <Elystus> linkfan1896: Do you mind if Marc fiddles with your password to test a few things.
#2126 [17:58] <linkfan1896> Not a problem
#2127 [17:58] <Elystus> okay
#2128 [17:58] <Smartydaniel> http://mibpaste.com/pkvd2X
#2129 [17:58] <Smartydaniel> there
#2130 [18:02] <teetor314> poof bot
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#2133 [18:03] <teetor314> and bot is back LOP
#2134 [18:04] <Elystus> linkfan1896: We are testing a few servers. Non seem to work.
#2135 [18:04] <Elystus> none*
#2136 [18:04] <teetor314> elystus
#2137 [18:04] <Elystus> yes?
#2138 [18:04] <teetor314> can you see if you can help smartydaniel, i cant figure out why he cant connect
#2139 [18:04] <teetor314> to his own server
#2140 [18:05] <teetor314> RE startup log http://mibpaste.com/pkvd2X
#2141 [18:05] <Elystus> teetor314: What ip are you using to connect to your own server?
#2142 [18:05] <Elystus> Um... sorry Smartydaniel ^
#2143 [18:05] <teetor314> 108.132.186.251
#2144 [18:05] <teetor314> that is the IP he gave
#2145 [18:06] <Elystus> Smartydaniel: Are other people able to connect to your server?
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#2147 [18:06] <teetor314> i tried to connect
#2148 [18:06] <teetor314> and it said connection refused
#2149 [18:07] <Elystus> ;check 108.132.186.251
#2150 [18:07] <teetor314> hello ben
#2151 [18:08] <teetor314> poof
#2152 [18:08] <VoxelHead> pooooof
#2153 [18:09] <teetor314> Who else was having issues?
#2154 [18:09] * Smartydaniel [Smartydaniel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2155 [18:09] <Elystus> Smartydaniel: Did you port forward?
#2156 [18:09] <Elystus> ;ip Smartydaniel
#2157 [18:09] <Smartydaniel> port forward what?/
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#2159 [18:10] <Elystus> Why does wugbot not want to work >_>
#2160 [18:10] <Elystus> Smartydaniel: Did you port forward so that other people can connect?
#2161 [18:10] <Smartydaniel> yes
#2162 [18:10] <Elystus> also, you may want to try connecting to your own server with 127.0.0.1
#2163 [18:10] <Smartydaniel> although ive had troubles with it yes
#2164 [18:11] <Smartydaniel> tried tha
#2165 [18:11] <Smartydaniel> *t
#2166 [18:11] <Elystus> try your local ipv4?
#2167 [18:11] <Smartydaniel> ok
#2168 [18:11] <linkfan1896> Smarty is running the server on port 25545
#2169 [18:12] <linkfan1896> according to the pastebin thing
#2170 [18:12] <Smartydaniel> connection refused
#2171 [18:12] <linkfan1896> try localhost:25545
#2172 [18:12] <Smartydaniel> what? i thought i changed it back
#2173 [18:12] <Scott> Elystus: you do it wrong
#2174 [18:12] <Elystus> linkfan1896: the port is 25565
#2175 [18:12] <Scott> !check 108.132.186.251
#2176 [18:12] <Elystus> Scott: Herp te derp >_>
#2177 [18:12] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#2178 [18:12] <Scott> !check 108.132.186.251:25545
#2179 [18:12] <Grim_Reaper> Every time x_x
#2180 [18:12] <Eddie> things look Grim_Reaper
#2181 [18:12] <linkfan1896> in the mibpaste file it says "starting Minecraft server on *:25545"
#2182 [18:12] <Smartydaniel> it works
#2183 [18:12] <Smartydaniel> for me that is
#2184 [18:13] <teetor314> wow aubot is spam glitching
#2185 [18:13] <teetor314> P
#2186 [18:13] <Scott> Elystus: It doesn't have to be on port 25565.
#2187 [18:13] <Smartydaniel> localhost:25545
#2188 [18:13] <Smartydaniel> ok
#2189 [18:13] <Smartydaniel> yeah
#2190 [18:13] <Elystus> Scott: It is by default, I was taking a guess that he didn't change it.
#2191 [18:13] <Smartydaniel> i typed it right
#2192 [18:13] <Elystus> unless it is diffrent on Macs :/
#2193 [18:13] <Elystus> pkvd2X
#2194 [18:13] <Elystus> [02:58.41] <Smartydaniel> there
#2195 [18:13] <Smartydaniel> you know i have a mac?
#2196 [18:13] <Elystus> !check >_>
#2197 [18:13] <Scott> It isn't different but he said he changed it.
#2198 [18:13] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#2199 [18:13] <Smartydaniel> lol
#2200 [18:13] <Elystus> I am failing so hard
#2201 [18:13] <Grim_Reaper> I wish.. for AuBot's reply to be changed
#2202 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> As a gift
#2203 [18:14] <teetor314> wow ely
#2204 [18:14] <linkfan1896> !check 108.132.152.211:25545
#2205 [18:14] <Elystus> ^ that was what I was meaning.
#2206 [18:14] <linkfan1896> Hmm, that's what mIRC said your IP was
#2207 [18:14] <Smartydaniel> hmm
#2208 [18:14] <Scott> Firewall on computer or router is probably blocking the connection.
#2209 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> !ip Smartydaniel
#2210 [18:14] <Grim_Reaper> ._.
#2211 [18:15] <Smartydaniel> what? i unblocked it
#2212 [18:15] <teetor314> or the router isnt forwarded correctly
#2213 [18:15] <linkfan1896> Oh, did you forward port 25545 or just 25565
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#2215 [18:15] <Smartydaniel> yeah your right i didnt port forward 25545
#2216 [18:15] <Smartydaniel> can someone give me a guide?
#2217 [18:15] <teetor314> welcome ry
#2218 [18:16] <teetor314> sorry not much help there
#2219 [18:16] <Smartydaniel> i remember the firewall saying do you want incoming connections
#2220 [18:16] <teetor314> yea you should have unblocked that
#2221 [18:16] <Smartydaniel> yeah...
#2222 [18:16] <Elystus> linkfan1896: You emailed support, correct?
#2223 [18:16] <linkfan1896> Previously I did, it was a while ago
#2224 [18:16] <Smartydaniel> firewall is off.
#2225 [18:17] <ryan_the_leach> offtopic: best misread term ever firewall -> fireball
#2226 [18:17] <teetor314> lol
#2227 [18:17] <Smartydaniel> lol
#2228 [18:17] * teetor314 waits for next person needing help
#2228 [18:17] <ryan_the_leach> all i could think of was, a fireball wants to know if i want incoming.... RUN AWAY
#2229 [18:18] <ryan_the_leach> Smartydaniel http://portforward.com/ seems to have good guides
#2230 [18:18] <Smartydaniel> all hmm
#2231 [18:18] <ryan_the_leach> just plug in your router data
#2232 [18:18] <Smartydaniel> i tried that
#2233 [18:18] <Smartydaniel> but no help
#2234 [18:18] <ryan_the_leach> for 25545?
#2235 [18:18] <linkfan1896> Elystus: Do I need to send another support email since the old one was in reference to the problem that was fixed today?
#2236 [18:19] <Smartydaniel> oh hang on
#2237 [18:19] <Elystus> linkfan1896: I think he found it. He said that he would create a new one if there is not one though.
#2238 [18:19] <linkfan1896> Create a new one... a new what?
#2239 [18:19] <Elystus> a new ticket.
#2240 [18:19] <linkfan1896> Oh, okay.
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#2242 [18:21] <Smartydaniel> back
#2243 [18:21] <Smartydaniel> can you guys try it now/
#2244 [18:22] <Smartydaniel> ok?
#2245 [18:22] <teetor314> i tried
#2246 [18:22] <teetor314> still wont
#2247 [18:23] <linkfan1896> Do you have port 25545 forwarded?
#2248 [18:24] <teetor314> wow we are usually busier ;LOL
#2249 [18:25] <linkfan1896> Well, at least that means a million people aren't having issues with minecraft
#2250 [18:26] <ryan_the_leach> whoa
#2251 [18:26] <ryan_the_leach> i just found out portforward.com has a whole page dedicated to minecraft
#2252 [18:26] <Elystus> linkfan1896: Marc has forwarded the account to the web devs. In the meantime, you can reset your password and play offline.
#2253 [18:26] <ryan_the_leach> as opposed to just their normal guids
#2254 [18:26] <teetor314> link that is true, ofc theres other channels
#2255 [18:26] <ryan_the_leach> http://portforward.com/softwareguides/minecraft/minecraft.htm
#2256 [18:27] <teetor314> yup
#2257 [18:27] <linkfan1896> Elystus: all right. Thanks for your help!
#2258 [18:27] <Elystus> linkfan1896: No problem.
#2259 [18:27] * Elystus goes off to eat
#2259 [18:27] <ryan_the_leach> teetor314 know anything about what makes the minecraft head accessorys render?
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#2262 [18:31] <lastkiller> hello
#2263 [18:31] <ryan_the_leach> hey lemon-rev
#2264 [18:31] <ryan_the_leach> whoops
#2265 [18:31] <ryan_the_leach> lastkiller
#2266 [18:31] <VoxelHead> I like you :-)
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#2268 [18:32] <lastkiller> i have created an account for a friend of mine
#2269 [18:32] <lastkiller> but the verification mail was not send
#2270 [18:32] <lastkiller> but the verification mail was not send
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#2272 [18:33] <ryan_the_leach> have you checked the spam box of the email address that registered/
#2273 [18:33] <lastkiller> yes
#2274 [18:34] <lastkiller> nothing there
#2275 [18:34] <lastkiller> the username is cotonette
#2276 [18:34] <lastkiller> check it plz
#2277 [18:34] <ryan_the_leach> lastkiller im not from mojang support, i was just trying to help out until someone else responded, hopefully theres someone nearby that can help :)
#2278 [18:35] <lastkiller> oh ok
#2279 [18:35] <lastkiller> thanks
#2280 [18:35] <linkfan1896> actually, I don't think anyone here is from mojang support
#2281 [18:35] <ryan_the_leach> ah, some people seem to be in contact with those that are tho
#2282 [18:35] <lastkiller> i tryed everything
#2283 [18:35] <linkfan1896> Yep
#2284 [18:35] <Elystus> There is only really one that ever comes on.
#2285 [18:35] <lastkiller> checked everywere but nothing
#2286 [18:36] <Elystus> lastkiller, it probably was a typo in the email.
#2287 [18:36] <Elystus> You can request for it to be fixed
#2288 [18:36] <Elystus> or just make a new one.
#2289 [18:36] <Elystus> They will take a while to respond.
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#2291 [18:37] <lastkiller> my friend was using cracked version and he want to buy an account now but loose all beacause of changing nick
#2292 [18:37] <lastkiller> no way of this to happened
#2293 [18:38] <Elystus> What does previously having a cracked client have to do with this?
#2294 [18:38] <lastkiller> servers inventory and perm
#2295 [18:39] <Elystus> okay, well there was probably a typo when you created the account. But you can request for a new verification email to be sent.
#2296 [18:39] <Elystus> http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#2297 [18:40] <lastkiller> i have tryed that
#2298 [18:40] <lastkiller> no results
#2299 [18:41] <Elystus> oaky, you will probably have to request for them to change your email: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#2300 [18:41] <Elystus> okay*
#2301 [18:42] <lastkiller> i have tryed to migrate but i cant the acc is not yet purchased
#2302 [18:42] <Elystus> Then you will just have to send a ticket in.
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#2304 [18:43] <lastkiller> brb
#2305 [18:43] <ryan_the_leach> hey reglac111
#2306 [18:43] <reglac111> hey
#2307 [18:43] <reglac111> are the minecraft servers back online?
#2308 [18:43] <ryan_the_leach> mostly
#2309 [18:43] <reglac111> ok cool thanks
#2310 [18:44] <ryan_the_leach> that was easy
#2311 [18:44] <linkfan1896> lol
#2312 [18:46] <teetor314> back lol
#2313 [18:46] <ryan_the_leach> i wish karma was a currency that i could just spend, its like save up a few support calls to cash in on a larger support call
#2314 [18:46] <ryan_the_leach> or something
#2315 [18:46] <teetor314> lol
#2316 [18:46] <teetor314> would be nice
#2317 [18:47] <teetor314> but alas not that simple
#2318 [18:47] <teetor314> yet
#2319 [18:48] <linkfan1896> I assume I will get an email when mojang resolves my account issue?
#2320 [18:48] <Elystus> I that were so.
#2321 [18:48] <teetor314> should be right link
#2322 [18:48] <Elystus> linkfan1896: Most likely
#2323 [18:48] <teetor314> *waits for server to load*
#2324 [18:48] <teetor314> grr
#2325 [18:48] <Elystus> if you do not get one in two days, let me know and I can ask Marc about it again.
#2326 [18:48] <teetor314> my server is so damn slow atm for some reason
#2327 [18:49] <ryan_the_leach> vanilla or plugins teetor314?
#2328 [18:49] <linkfan1896> Alright, then I will get off for now. Maybe soon I will start frequenting here on the other side of the support spectrum
#2329 [18:49] <teetor314> bukkit ryan lol
#2330 [18:49] <teetor314> already tried doing a cold boot
#2331 [18:49] <Elystus> Cya linkfan1896
#2332 [18:49] <ryan_the_leach> *bukkit is what i meant
#2333 [18:49] <teetor314> and reloaded plugins
#2334 [18:49] <ryan_the_leach> what plugins you running?
#2335 [18:49] <teetor314> uh hawkeye, groupmanager, and a few others
#2336 [18:49] <teetor314> mostly low-level stuff for cosmetic sh**
#2337 [18:50] <orkaa> so, anyone know anything about http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:Mob_spawning_ranges.png ?
#2338 [18:50] <teetor314> i just upgraded the ram so it shouldnt be that
#2339 [18:50] <ryan_the_leach> players addicted to mob farms?
#2340 [18:50] <orkaa> do mobs really become stale behind the 32m
#2341 [18:50] <teetor314> u havent heard ryan lol
#2342 [18:52] <ryan_the_leach> man strafing pigs just look wierd i swear it was running into a wall and just getting pushed
#2343 [18:54] <ryan_the_leach> im assuming by that you mean, veryyes. http://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/wizyt/admins_who_run_factionsmcmmo_whats_a_decent_limit/c5drdcs says that Use the plugin entity suppressor. recommend starting off at a really low number, like at 500 Mobs. Then slowly bring it up as there is no lag.
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#2346 [19:15] <teetor314> and im back :P\
#2347 [19:19] * beardog108 [beardog108@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2348 [19:20] <beardog108> I cant get minecraft to work on my launcher or the web page.
#2349 [19:20] * kevyninsha11 [kevyninsha11@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2350 [19:20] <ryan_the_leach> do you get an error message?
#2351 [19:20] <beardog108> No.
#2352 [19:20] <beardog108> i re-downloaded.
#2353 [19:21] <beardog108> it was working before but we did a system- restore and it wouldnt work after that.
#2354 [19:21] <ryan_the_leach> do you know if the system restore uninstalled the java runtime files ?
#2355 [19:21] <kevyninsha11> i need help im trying to start the game on the minecraft site but when it trys to load java it just freezes and doesnt load i cant play right now and i tried to download java again nothing works
#2356 [19:21] <ryan_the_leach> that would be my guess
#2357 [19:22] <ryan_the_leach> beardog108 also make sure to get the right version for your system
#2358 [19:22] <beardog108> We still have java. i see the file
#2359 [19:22] <beardog108> we have had 32 bit forever and thats what i have now.
#2360 [19:23] <beardog108> it worked with 32 bit before.
#2361 [19:23] <ryan_the_leach> so when running the launcher, does it at least let you log in?
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#2363 [19:23] <beardog108> yes, it logs in and loads
#2364 [19:23] <beardog108> then just a black screen
#2365 [19:23] <Elystus> lets generate a crash report
#2366 [19:24] <Thezone> Hello, could someone help me with my redstone interface?
#2367 [19:24] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2368 [19:24] <Elystus> beardog108 ^
#2369 [19:25] <beardog108> it doesnt crash
#2370 [19:25] <beardog108> exactly.
#2371 [19:25] <Elystus> That is a crash
#2372 [19:25] <Elystus> just trust me
#2373 [19:25] <Elystus> Unless it continues
#2374 [19:25] <beardog108> Okay.
#2375 [19:26] <beardog108> Has anyone else talked about this problem?
#2376 [19:26] <Elystus> We will find out when i get the error report.
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#2378 [19:26] <ryan_the_leach> kevyninsha11 you could try a force update with the launcher
#2379 [19:27] <ryan_the_leach> or follow the crash report guide as well
#2380 [19:27] <kevyninsha11> force update?
#2381 [19:27] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> Thezone: whats you doign with redstone>?
#2382 [19:27] <ryan_the_leach> on your minecraft launcher there should be a button called options next to login
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#2384 [19:27] <ryan_the_leach> if you click that a pop up dialogue appears with force update in the centre
#2385 [19:28] <ryan_the_leach> clicking that will redownload minecraft and force it to update to the latest stable version
#2386 [19:28] <kevyninsha11> im not sure but when i updated java it started to happen
#2387 [19:28] <kevyninsha11> im trying to play on the site not download it
#2388 [19:29] <Elystus> kevyninsha11: Try the launcher.
#2389 [19:29] <Elystus> It most likely will not work, but it will give us insight into what is happening.
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#2391 [19:30] <kevyninsha11> how exactly do i do that?
#2392 [19:31] <NutBunnyTheConqueror> !client
#2393 [19:31] <kevyninsha11> didnt work?
#2394 [19:32] <Elystus> exactly.
#2395 [19:32] <Elystus> But what happened?
#2396 [19:32] <kevyninsha11> said the program could not work
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#2398 [19:32] <Elystus> O.o
#2399 [19:33] <kevyninsha11> i wont want to download minecraft i just want to play it on the site
#2400 [19:33] <Elystus> What was the exact message it gave you?
#2401 [19:33] <kevyninsha11> iit sad could not do virtual java machine or something
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#2403 [19:34] <DJ_yoeri> i get a error and it say
#2404 [19:34] <kevyninsha11> i just want it to work on the browser
#2405 [19:34] <DJ_yoeri> minecraft crashes
#2406 [19:34] <Elystus> kevyninsha11: What operating system are you on?
#2407 [19:34] <DJ_yoeri> windows 7
#2408 [19:34] <kevyninsha11> what do you mean?
#2409 [19:34] <DJ_yoeri> minecraft doens't work
#2410 [19:34] <Elystus> kevyninsha11: Windows, mac, linux?
#2411 [19:34] <kevyninsha11> windows 7
#2412 [19:35] <DJ_yoeri> yes
#2413 [19:35] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: What exactly is happening?
#2414 [19:35] <DJ_yoeri> if i want to do minecraft
#2415 [19:35] <Elystus> kevyninsha11: open command prompt and type java -version
#2416 [19:35] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: Can you explain what is happening?
#2417 [19:35] <DJ_yoeri> if i want to do minecraft
#2418 [19:35] <DJ_yoeri> it says
#2419 [19:36] <kevyninsha11> ok
#2420 [19:36] <DJ_yoeri> minecraft has crashed
#2421 [19:36] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: You said it had an error report. Can you put that on pastebin.net?
#2422 [19:36] <DJ_yoeri> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 -------- Generated 16-7-12 1:35 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows 7 (x86) version 6.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java.lang.NullPointerException)] org.lwjgl.LW
#2423 [19:36] <Elystus> pastebin.com*
#2424 [19:36] <Elystus> ??> DJ_yoeri pastebin
#2425 [19:36] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2426 [19:36] <Elystus> put it on there.
#2427 [19:37] <kevyninsha11> i typed it into the command prompt
#2428 [19:38] <DJ_yoeri> ok but what i must do
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#2430 [19:39] <Elystus> kevyninsha11: Can you tell me which java versions were listed there?
#2431 [19:39] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: Put the error report on pastebin.com
#2432 [19:39] <Elystus> Then give me the link.
#2433 [19:39] <kevyninsha11> 1.7.0_05
#2434 [19:40] <DJ_yoeri> http://pastebin.com/3jTrLiX3
#2435 [19:40] <Elystus> Do you have a 32 or 64 bit operating system kevyninsha11?
#2436 [19:40] <kevyninsha11> how do i check that?
#2437 [19:41] <DJ_yoeri> kevy is youre minecraft working
#2438 [19:41] <kevyninsha11> nope
#2439 [19:41] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#2440 [19:41] <Elystus> kevyninsha11: press the win key and the pause|break key at the same time.
#2441 [19:41] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - Do you know what video card you have
#2442 [19:42] <DJ_yoeri> uhm
#2443 [19:42] <DJ_yoeri> no
#2444 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - Please give us a dxdiag by following VoxelHead's instructions.
#2445 [19:42] <GreyVulpine> ??> DJ_yoeri win/dxdiag
#2446 [19:42] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2447 [19:42] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2448 [19:43] <kevyninsha11> um im not sure its not working i dont have a pause/break there seperate
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#2450 [19:43] <DJ_yoeri> kevy he means
#2451 [19:44] <DJ_yoeri> win+ pause-break
#2452 [19:44] <kevyninsha11> yea i did
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#2454 [19:45] <Elystus> kevyninsha11: It should have brough up a window with your system properties in it.
#2455 [19:45] <kevyninsha11> nothing came up
#2456 [19:45] <DJ_yoeri> i cant find my video card
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#2458 [19:45] <Elystus> kevyninsha11: DId you hold them down at the same time?
#2459 [19:45] <kevyninsha11> yes
#2460 [19:46] <Elystus> okay alternative route... Press start and right click on computer. Select the option properties.
#2461 [19:47] <GreyVulpine> ??> DJ_yoeri win/dxdiag
#2462 [19:47] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2463 [19:47] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2464 [19:47] <NinjaKirby> Restone Circuit: Can anyone remember the name of the 3x2 circuit which translates a permanent signal into a single pulse?
#2465 [19:48] <NinjaKirby> Oh wait, god damnit, I found it, it is a pulse limiter. It made sense but I didn't "see it", design is different then I recall.
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#2468 [19:50] <DJ_yoeri> http://pastebin.com/3jTrLiX3 this is the site i put on
#2469 [19:51] <knightivan> are the minecraft servers down?
#2470 [19:51] <DJ_yoeri> yeah
#2471 [19:51] <knightivan> ok, thanks
#2472 [19:51] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - That's not your dxdiag
#2473 [19:51] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: He is asking you to do something else now.
#2474 [19:51] <Elystus> !login
#2475 [19:51] <DJ_yoeri> is there also a dutch helper
#2476 [19:52] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, we're all volunteers here. It's mostly an english channel
#2477 [19:52] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#2478 [19:52] <DJ_yoeri> but what i must do
#2479 [19:52] <DJ_yoeri> and please dont expensive words
#2480 [19:53] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: press the windows button and "r" at the same time.
#2481 [19:53] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#2482 [19:54] <DJ_yoeri> i did
#2483 [19:54] <Elystus> type cmd in and press enter.
#2484 [19:54] <Elystus> wait, sorry
#2485 [19:54] <Elystus> type in dxdiad and press enter.
#2486 [19:54] <DJ_yoeri> dont exist
#2487 [19:55] <DJ_yoeri> cant find dxdiad
#2488 [19:55] <Elystus> dxdiag*
#2489 [19:55] <DJ_yoeri> than i see
#2490 [19:55] <DJ_yoeri> memory
#2491 [19:56] <DJ_yoeri> name
#2492 [19:56] <DJ_yoeri> than what
#2493 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> See "Save all information" in the lower right?
#2494 [19:56] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: Click save all information
#2495 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Press that, save the file on your desktop
#2496 [19:56] <GreyVulpine> Close dxdiag, open up dxdiag.txt on your desktop, copy everything inside.
#2497 [19:57] <GreyVulpine> Paste it to www.pastebin.com and give us the URL
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#2499 [19:57] <DJ_yoeri> i dont put it on web
#2500 [19:58] <DJ_yoeri> just say what is must do now
#2501 [19:58] <Elystus> We need to see it so we can choose what to do.
#2502 [19:59] <DJ_yoeri> yes
#2503 [19:59] <DJ_yoeri> but also there is standing a lot of my information
#2504 [19:59] <Elystus> We cannot do anything with this information.
#2505 [19:59] <Elystus> anything bad that is.
#2506 [20:00] <DJ_yoeri> can you just try to say which word i am searching for
#2507 [20:00] <DJ_yoeri> than i can tell it
#2508 [20:01] <Elystus> We are looking for multiple things. It is not possible for us to do anything bad with that information.
#2509 [20:03] <DJ_yoeri> first you say for video card
#2510 [20:03] <DJ_yoeri> and now multiple things
#2511 [20:04] <Elystus> It is all related to the video card.
#2512 [20:04] <Elystus> ??> DJ_yoeri Dont/bother
#2513 [20:04] <VoxelHead> DJ_yoeri: (dont/bother) If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#2514 [20:05] <DJ_yoeri> do you need video compressors
#2515 [20:06] <GreyVulpine> What we need is that dxdiag. Without it, we can't really help you further
#2516 [20:06] <DJ_yoeri> ok thnx
#2517 [20:07] <DJ_yoeri> but aslo
#2518 [20:07] <DJ_yoeri> what can be the problem that there is standing minecraft has crashed
#2519 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> That particular issue stems from a video driver issue. Could be because the video driver is out of date, or the video card or chipset is too old to handle minecraft. We don't know.
#2520 [20:08] <GreyVulpine> If it's not that, then java may need to be updated. A dxdiag would rule that out
#2521 [20:09] <DJ_yoeri> and if i update java
#2522 [20:09] <Elystus> Its not always about updating java.
#2523 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> Wouldn't fix the issue if it's a video driver issue
#2524 [20:09] <DJ_yoeri> but i can try
#2525 [20:09] <GreyVulpine> You're already running java 7, update 5.
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#2527 [20:10] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: There are so many possibilities as to what it can be. It would take hours to go through them all.
#2528 [20:10] <Elystus> If we have a dxdiag, we could answer it almost instantly.
#2529 [20:10] <DJ_yoeri> i got java tm 6 update 22
#2530 [20:11] <DJ_yoeri> java tm 6 update 30
#2531 [20:11] <DJ_yoeri> java tm 7 update 5
#2532 [20:11] <DJ_yoeri> javafx 2.1.1
#2533 [20:11] <DJ_yoeri> that are al java i got
#2534 [20:13] <Elystus> uninstall the java 6's
#2535 [20:13] <DJ_yoeri> why
#2536 [20:13] <Elystus> Because you have java 7
#2537 [20:13] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#2538 [20:13] <DJ_yoeri> i am don
#2539 [20:13] <DJ_yoeri> done
#2540 [20:14] <Elystus> You uninstalled java tm 6 update 22 and java tm 6 update 30?
#2541 [20:14] <DJ_yoeri> yes
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#2543 [20:14] <teetor314> System Reconnect
#2544 [20:14] <Elystus> Okay, now try.
#2545 [20:15] <teetor314> ok back'
#2546 [20:15] <teetor314> lol
#2547 [20:15] <Elystus> Hey teetor314
#2548 [20:15] <teetor314> hi
#2549 [20:15] <DJ_yoeri> not working
#2550 [20:15] <teetor314> sorry my remote in connection dropped
#2551 [20:15] <thevitalvariant> Minecraft crashes after logging in. Windows OS. I reinstalled both minecraft and Java. Get an error report I don't understand.
#2552 [20:15] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: As I expected.
#2553 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Share that error report with us via pastebin.com
#2554 [20:16] <GreyVulpine> Give us the URL
#2555 [20:16] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: go through the dxdiag and see if you can find me the model name of your video card.
#2556 [20:16] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#2557 [20:16] <DJ_yoeri> my proccesor
#2558 [20:17] <DJ_yoeri> pentium (r) dual core
#2559 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Old computer.
#2560 [20:17] <DJ_yoeri> no
#2561 [20:17] <DJ_yoeri> i but it with christmas
#2562 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Betting it doesn't have a anything bettert than a integrated video chipset
#2563 [20:18] <thevitalvariant> http://pastebin.com/EuDjC2aE
#2564 [20:18] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: Have you ever run minecraft before on that computer?
#2565 [20:18] <DJ_yoeri> yes
#2566 [20:18] <DJ_yoeri> i got minecraft i think
#2567 [20:18] <DJ_yoeri> about
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#2569 [20:19] <DJ_yoeri> 4 monds
#2570 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> thevitalvariant - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#2571 [20:19] <Elystus> thevitalvariant: That is usually a graphics card issue.
#2572 [20:19] <GreyVulpine> ??> thevitalvariant win/dxdiag
#2573 [20:19] <VoxelHead> thevitalvariant: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2574 [20:19] <VoxelHead> thevitalvariant: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2575 [20:19] <DJ_yoeri> i play minecraft 4 monds
#2576 [20:19] <DJ_yoeri> 4 months
#2577 [20:20] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: Can you get me the name of the graphics card?
#2578 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - Here's a dxdiag
#2579 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/3wEaFiku
#2580 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Please go there, locate Display Devices
#2581 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Do you see Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 ?
#2582 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> Go to your dxdiag, what does it say there?
#2583 [20:21] <thevitalvariant> http://pastebin.com/m2ncuguK
#2584 [20:21] <skyboy> wouldn't it be easier to have him post a dxdiag too?
#2585 [20:21] <Elystus> skyboy: He does not want to do that.
#2586 [20:22] <skyboy> ..okay then
#2587 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> Oof..
#2588 [20:22] <DJ_yoeri> chipset
#2589 [20:22] <DJ_yoeri> is this
#2590 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> X1250, old card..
#2591 [20:22] <DJ_yoeri> Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
#2592 [20:22] <Elystus> thevitalvariant: I do not think that those specs meet the minimum requirements for minecraft.
#2593 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> I don't think so either
#2594 [20:22] <thevitalvariant> I've been running for a while. Only after this weekend have I had the error.
#2595 [20:23] <DJ_yoeri> i got Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
#2596 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> thevitalvariant - Install any mods?
#2597 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - How much Memory do you have?
#2598 [20:23] <DJ_yoeri> 1 tb
#2599 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - What operating system are you on?
#2600 [20:23] <thevitalvariant> Attempted to make my own. Failed miserably.
#2601 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> thevitalvariant - Try a force update through the launcher's options menu
#2602 [20:23] <Elystus> thevitalvariant: Try a force update.
#2603 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - Very funny. How much memory is in your computer?
#2604 [20:23] <Elystus> >_> ninjas
#2605 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> :)
#2606 [20:24] <VoxelHead> -_-
#2607 [20:24] <DJ_yoeri> 1 tb
#2608 [20:24] <newbie|3> is this the right place to ask questions about the MSM that is mentioned on the minecraft wiki page for setting up a server?
#2609 [20:24] <DJ_yoeri> really
#2610 [20:24] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: He means ram.
#2611 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - You do not have 1 tb of memory
#2612 [20:24] <skyboy> RAM, DJ_yoeri. not HDD storage
#2613 [20:24] <oldtopman> GreyVulpine: Ask him for a dxdiag, it has that info
#2614 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> oldtopman - He doesn't want to give it
#2615 [20:24] <thevitalvariant> Launcher has an options menu?
#2616 [20:24] <Elystus> oldtopman: He refuses to give it.
#2617 [20:24] <oldtopman> wat
#2618 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> thevitalvariant - Yes
#2619 [20:24] <DJ_yoeri> the
#2620 [20:24] <Elystus> thevitalvariant: Yes, right above the logiun fields.
#2621 [20:24] <GreyVulpine> oldtopman - We're trying to, it's like pulling teeth
#2622 [20:24] <Elystus> log in*
#2623 [20:24] <DJ_yoeri> available
#2624 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> if he refuses to provide info, we cannot really help much further
#2625 [20:24] <DJ_yoeri> or the normal
#2626 [20:24] <thevitalvariant> Wow. Ty.
#2627 [20:25] <Elystus> thevitalvariant: \o/
#2628 [20:25] <DJ_yoeri> 4062MB RAM
#2629 [20:25] <DJ_yoeri> that is available
#2630 [20:25] <thevitalvariant> Still crashed.
#2631 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> why did it crash? Use this to get info so that we can find out - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#Windows
#2632 [20:26] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Problematic frame
#2633 [20:26] <DJ_yoeri> i got 4062MB RAM available
#2634 [20:26] <Elystus> Graphics card seems old, but he claims that it ran before this weekend.
#2635 [20:26] <skyboy> ??> thevitalvariant java/1.7
#2636 [20:26] <VoxelHead> thevitalvariant: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#2637 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> Then the graphics drivers need to be updated, and we need to see the dxdiag info to help him further
#2638 [20:26] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I will go get them quickly
#2639 [20:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> thevitalvariant win/dxdiag
#2640 [20:27] <VoxelHead> thevitalvariant: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2641 [20:27] <VoxelHead> thevitalvariant: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2642 [20:27] <skyboy> disk: he already posted one
#2643 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon - http://pastebin.com/m2ncuguK
#2644 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> Vista, running ATI radeon X1250
#2645 [20:27] <Elystus> Already on the drivers disk
#2646 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> thevitalvariant - Do you know if you're running 32 or 64 bit vista?
#2647 [20:27] <DJ_yoeri> greyvulpine
#2648 [20:27] <thevitalvariant> 32
#2649 [20:27] <DJ_yoeri> i got 4062MB RAM available
#2650 [20:27] <GreyVulpine> DJ_yoeri - That's great. We need more information
#2651 [20:27] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#2652 [20:28] <Elystus> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_vista32.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#2653 [20:28] <Elystus> ^ thevitalvariant
#2654 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> I'm not going to walk you through trying to grab every piece of information we need, DJ_yoeri.
#2655 [20:28] <teetor314> Connection Restablished
#2656 [20:28] <teetor314> damn my internet
#2657 [20:28] <DJ_yoeri> say what you need more
#2658 [20:28] <DJ_yoeri> than i tell
#2659 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> Nope, I have better things to do with my time.
#2660 [20:30] <skyboy> why is lwjgl's clear function throwing the error?
#2661 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Because it's part of the OpenGL 1.1 standard instruction that the driver doesn't know how to do
#2662 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> So java borks.
#2663 [20:32] <skyboy> if the driver couldn't handle it, why was he able to start it earlier? or am i confusing the two asking for help
#2664 [20:32] <Elystus> skyboy: No you are correct, and the same thing is tumping me.
#2665 [20:32] <Elystus> stumping*
#2666 [20:32] <GreyVulpine> They both claim to have ran minecraft before. Drivers can easily be malformed.
#2667 [20:33] <skyboy> the really weird part, however, is when the error is thrown
#2668 [20:33] <DiskDaemon> Because we don't have any facts on what was occurring earlier. All that we can know for sure is that it is now not working
#2669 [20:33] <skyboy> it looks like it's half way finished clearing the area
#2670 [20:33] <skyboy> [0x4da80000,0x4dad0000], sp=0x4dacf814
#2671 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> A mod can easily screw up a display driver by calling an invalid instruction.
#2672 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> I've seen it again and again here
#2673 [20:34] <Elystus> I think he may be updating his drivers right now.
#2674 [20:34] <Elystus> I gave him the link earlier.
#2675 [20:34] * GreyVulpine nods
#2675 [20:35] <Elystus> another thing that can cuase a problematic frame is a gamepad device, or one that emulates it.
#2676 [20:35] <skyboy> yeah, it only had 2028 pixels of the 327680 pixels left to go when it explodes
#2677 [20:35] <Elystus> Such as headphones or game controller.
#2678 [20:35] <skyboy> that is _not_ the place for throwing an error for an unsupported instruction
#2679 [20:36] <VoxelHead> watch out for the moose
#2680 [20:36] <skyboy> it's not a gamepad, elystus: it's not being thrown by DInput
#2681 [20:36] <skyboy> this is in lwjgl
#2682 [20:36] <Elystus> I know, I was just throwing it out there. :P
#2683 [20:36] * Elystus is bored.
#2683 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: WOuld you mind exploring the natural manner in how people find themselves faced with the launcher connection trouble due to the ipv6 communication thing?
#2684 [20:39] <Elystus> I will try again tomorrow.
#2685 [20:39] <Elystus> I am going to try and finish the thread tomorrow.
#2686 [20:39] <Elystus> and I will test that somewhere in there.
#2687 [20:40] <GreyVulpine> Here's an oldie for you. Figure out why minecraft doesn't run on this: http://pastebin.com/azAYc5Uh
#2688 [20:40] <Elystus> Memory: 256MB RAM
#2689 [20:40] <Elystus> one issue
#2690 [20:40] <Elystus> another issue: NVIDIA RIVA TNT Model 64 (Sony)
#2691 [20:41] <Elystus> Display Memory: 32.0 MB
#2692 [20:41] <Elystus> Driver Date/Size: 8/8/2001 15:00:00, 1995257 bytes
#2693 [20:41] <Elystus> Do I have to continue?
#2694 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> Nope, you're good.
#2695 [20:42] <Elystus> Did someone come in with a comp like that before?
#2696 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Yup
#2697 [20:42] <Elystus> .....
#2698 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> Wow. Just - wow.
#2699 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> I keep certain.. unique dxdiags.
#2700 [20:42] <Elystus> Well that is unique....
#2701 [20:42] <GreyVulpine> Oh, here's another one: http://pastebin.com/sKWnhAZL
#2702 [20:43] * Elystus sees hp
#2702 [20:43] * Elystus explodes
#2702 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> 704MB ram?
#2703 [20:43] <Elystus> Better than the last
#2704 [20:43] <GreyVulpine> Anybody mind telling me what video card that guy's running?
#2705 [20:43] <Elystus> Card name:
#2706 [20:43] <Elystus> He is running an invisable one
#2707 [20:44] <Elystus> invisible*
#2708 [20:44] <GreyVulpine> I'll give you a hint, it's on that page, encoded.
#2709 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> A no-name brand :)
#2710 [20:44] <thevitalvariant> Finished updating drivers. Want a report or something?
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#2712 [20:44] <skyboy> actually, the blank fields are because of the vga.dll he's using
#2713 [20:45] <ryan_the_leach> im asumming it doesnt have the drivers installed?
#2714 [20:45] <skyboy> it's not returning the information it should. malware, perhaps?
#2715 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> Nope, no valid drivers installed
#2716 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> A Radeon Express 200 series?
#2717 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> It's running default VGA
#2718 [20:45] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon gets a cookie
#2719 [20:45] <skyboy> 1Hz? o.0
#2720 [20:46] * DiskDaemon puts cookie aside for after the diet
#2720 [20:46] <thevitalvariant> Minecraft is running again. Thanks guys for the help. Watching this feed is thoroughly entertaining btw.
#2721 [20:46] <skyboy> if that's accurate, how the fuck was he using the computer
#2722 [20:46] * AuBot kicked skyboy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: kyboy :Please keep it civil.)
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#2724 [20:46] <skyboy> there's no way you can manage to do anything at 1 FPS
#2725 [20:46] <Elystus> thevitalvariant: I am guessing the new drivers worked?
#2726 [20:46] <thevitalvariant> Yup.
#2727 [20:46] <GreyVulpine> The computer will still run, falling back on VGA.
#2728 [20:46] <Elystus> I feel blink
#2729 [20:46] <Elystus> blind*
#2730 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Have you figured out yet how to decode the graphics card from that dxdiag report?
#2731 [20:47] <Elystus> No ;-;
#2732 [20:47] <thevitalvariant> Thanks again. Have a goodnight.
#2733 [20:47] <Elystus> I bet I am going to feel stupid when i figure it out.
#2734 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: It has to do with this section: "Video Controller (VGA Compatible)"
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#2736 [20:49] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: So what can be done with info from that section: "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5A61&SUBSYS_2A47103C&REV_00\4&1CF2FBB4&0&2808"
#2737 [20:49] <Elystus> found it
#2738 [20:49] <Elystus> Right before you said it
#2739 [20:49] <Elystus> google can be done ;)
#2740 [20:49] <dustyjo> ok so i accidentaly migrated and i have no idea why the sute has no de migrater
#2741 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> Good. Here's another one.
#2742 [20:49] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/zdFECCzY
#2743 [20:50] <Elystus> dustyjo: Why do you want to unmigrate your account.
#2744 [20:50] <Elystus> ?
#2745 [20:50] <skyboy> there's a security hole
#2746 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> Been patched
#2747 [20:50] <GreyVulpine> See: http://www.mojang.com/2012/07/houston-we-have-a-problem/
#2748 [20:50] <skyboy> but it's impossible to unmirgrate the account, dusty
#2749 [20:50] <Elystus> ^
#2750 [20:51] <skyboy> you just have to log in with your email and normal MC password instead
#2751 [20:51] <dustyjo> because i have trouble finding and logging in to my account
#2752 [20:51] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: Oh lordy, that report is from a Dell system
#2753 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon - And a radeon 9200 series video card..
#2754 [20:51] <GreyVulpine> Which, I've never found a solution for.
#2755 [20:52] <Elystus> the 9000 series o.o
#2756 [20:52] <GreyVulpine> There's something about the 9200/9250s..
#2757 [20:52] <dustyjo> well can you lead me through on how to find it please :(
#2758 [20:52] <Elystus> yea, those are the only ones I ever see here from the 9000 series
#2759 [20:53] <skyboy> dustyjo: you just have to log in with your email and normal MC password instead
#2760 [20:53] <Elystus> dustyjo: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/507459-i-ve-migrated-and-can-t-log-into-minecraft
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#2762 [20:53] <dustyjo> ??
#2763 [20:53] <Elystus> Read the article.
#2764 [20:53] <Elystus> Read the article.
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#2767 [20:56] <dustyjo> i did and i didnt help at all:((
#2768 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> dustyjo: Can you please clarify for me, what trouble you are having?
#2769 [20:57] <dustyjo> are any of the creators of the site on the chat ??
#2770 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here works for Mojang
#2771 [20:58] <dustyjo> i am curently logging in as i usually would my password is correct and so is my username but it says i dont own an account
#2772 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> dustyjo: Please make sure that you are logging in with the email address that you migrated your account with.
#2773 [20:59] <dustyjo> i did
#2774 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> You said "username" before
#2775 [21:00] <dustyjo> it still didnt work
#2776 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> What is your username?
#2777 [21:00] <dustyjo> well i mean e mail
#2778 [21:00] * MrMae39 [MrMae39@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2779 [21:01] <MrMae39> ya qqn ?
#2780 [21:01] <dustyjo> djohn9907@*******.com
#2781 [21:01] * DiskDaemon gives up
#2781 [21:01] <MrMae39> im frenche...
#2782 [21:02] <skyboy> !paid dustyjo
#2783 [21:02] <skyboy> it is helpful when they use their MC username on IRC
#2784 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> dustyjo: Can you please let me know when you receive an email about resetting your password
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#2786 [21:04] <MrMae39> yes i paid mincrafte...
#2787 [21:04] <dustyjo> from whoo?
#2788 [21:04] <skyboy> ??> MrMae39 only/you
#2789 [21:04] <VoxelHead> MrMae39: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#2790 [21:04] <VoxelHead> MrMae39: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#2791 [21:04] <VoxelHead> Wooo... I like destroying.
#2792 [21:04] <ddan15> hey everytime i try to download minecraft it says minecraft_exe could'nt be downloaded i tryed turning off my antivirus and firewall still dont work plz help me
#2793 [21:04] <skyboy> have you purchased minecraft, ddan15?
#2794 [21:05] <ddan15> yes just an hour ago
#2795 [21:05] <skyboy> !paid ddan15
#2796 [21:05] <skyboy> your transaction went through shockingly fast, then
#2797 [21:05] <ddan15> yea
#2798 [21:05] <dustyjo> discdamemon from you
#2799 [21:05] <skyboy> dusty: from minecraft
#2800 [21:06] <ddan15> so what do i do
#2801 [21:06] <MrMae39> minecraft does not work
#2802 [21:06] <skyboy> ddan15: take a screenshot of the error
#2803 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> dustyjo: who else would send you an email about resetting your password?
#2804 [21:06] <ddan15> ok
#2805 [21:06] <skyboy> ??> MrMae39 error
#2806 [21:06] <VoxelHead> MrMae39: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2807 [21:06] <VoxelHead> MrMae39: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#2808 [21:06] <ddan15> what do i do after i take a pic
#2809 [21:06] <skyboy> ...upload it so we can see it
#2810 [21:07] <ddan15> to where
#2811 [21:07] <skyboy> alternatively, you can put it on your car
#2812 [21:07] <MrMae39> ok
#2813 [21:07] <NinjaKirby> Skyboy: Pimpin' up his ride, oh yeah boys and girls
#2814 [21:08] <dustyjo> <DiskDaemon> my email in full is djohn9907@GMAILL.COM
#2815 [21:08] <NinjaKirby> I wonder if there is a blinged up Minecraft Corsa out there
#2816 [21:08] <skyboy> ??> dustyjo dont/pebcak
#2817 [21:08] <DiskDaemon> dustyjo: I know, and the email was already sent when I mentioned it earlier
#2818 [21:08] <VoxelHead> dustyjo: (dont/pebcak) If you can't understand our (generally) basic instructions, please don't even bother wasting our time if you won't listen. Fixing problems requires some amount of self-help ability, to say nothing of literacy and the ability to follow directions..
#2819 [21:08] <VoxelHead> dustyjo: (dont/pebcak) Keep in mind we are all volunteers - if you need more help, hire a professional.
#2820 [21:10] <NinjaKirby> That pebcak message owns it up, christ, heh
#2821 [21:11] <DiskDaemon> I always want to spell it though as pebkac
#2822 [21:11] <skyboy> i alternate between the two alternatives
#2823 [21:11] <skyboy> the problem is they're both pronounced the same
#2824 [21:13] <skyboy> well, dusty left
#2825 [21:13] <skyboy> and the other two aren't doing as instructed
#2826 [21:14] <skyboy> back to modding
#2827 [21:14] * DiskDaemon goes back to working out why Aether doesn't want to work with SPC. Cue much decompiling
#2827 [21:15] <MrMae39> minecraft does not want to run it asks me to install java runtime environment 1.5.0 is to what I do but its not working its me wanting more every time ... what's the problem?
#2828 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> MrMae39: May we get a screenshot of that error?
#2829 [21:17] <MrMae39> euh...
#2830 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> How to take a screenshot?
#2831 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> http://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Microsoft-Windows
#2832 [21:18] <RudgerWolvram> so am I in the right spot for the Minecraft Server Manager that is mentioned in the wiki for setting up a server? Or do I need to go elsewhere simply because running the server from the jar itself works fine?
#2833 [21:18] <MrMae39> yes... plas...
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#2836 [21:19] <heather> can someone help me?
#2837 [21:19] <skyboy> ??> heather ask
#2838 [21:19] <VoxelHead> heather: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2839 [21:19] <VoxelHead> heather: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#2841 [21:20] <heather> ok, i accidently bought minecraft for the wrong account. How can i transfer it to the correct account?
#2842 [21:20] <skyboy> you can not
#2843 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> There is an accounts person who sometimes come in here. If you come across him then perhaps msome polite asking might help there, but otherwise no.
#2844 [21:21] <heather> what is the name of the person i need to look for?
#2845 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> that would be marc - we try to not hassle him about too much though :)
#2846 [21:23] <heather> but i could ask him if he could do that for me?
#2847 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> So, if you see him in here, you're welcome to ask. We try to not save up things for him to deal with though when he comes in
#2848 [21:23] <heather> this is the first time im using minecraft, but i didnt notice it was the wrong account
#2849 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> You could ask him though. He may say no as well, or he may have further information about how help might be gained
#2850 [21:25] <heather> Ok, i will ask him. s i just look for the name marc on here?
#2851 [21:25] <heather> *so
#2852 [21:25] <geraldbrent> Marc_IRL.
#2853 [21:26] <heather> ok, thank you
#2854 [21:26] <ddan15> ok skyboy im going to take a picture of the error
#2855 [21:28] <ddan15> wait how do i put the picture in here lol
#2856 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> using imgur.com or any other image hosting service
#2857 [21:32] <ddan15> ok i got it here http://screencast.com/t/3HVXrmUZv
#2858 [21:34] <ddan15> can u plz help me now
#2859 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> ddan15: This might help with that http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/forum/ie9-windows_7/couldnt-be-downloaded-appears-at-bottom-of-screen/ad51df58-bd7c-e011-9b4b-68b599b31bf5
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#2862 [21:46] <jaramio3> can anyone help with the graphics card error
#2863 [21:46] <DiskDaemon> sure
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#2865 [21:46] <jaramio3> alright what info do you need
#2866 [21:46] <ddan15> still didnt work
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#2868 [21:47] <_Shaft_Master_> Is there anyway to run a vanilla server with forge and modloaderMP?
#2869 [21:48] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: What the error is, first.
#2870 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> YOu can use pastebin.com to paste large amounts of text, for us to look at
#2871 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> _Shaft_Master_: I'm sorry but we don't support modded servers such as forge here
#2872 [21:49] <jaramio3> BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271
#2873 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: Please don't paste it all in this channel
#2874 [21:50] <jaramio3> that was just the code... the rest is the common bs
#2875 [21:50] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: We would like to look at the common bs too
#2876 [21:51] <jaramio3> alright let me get the site up for the larg text
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#2878 [21:52] <ddan15> omfg it worked i downloaded mozilla firefox and downloaded it from there :D if anyone else has that problem tell the that :)
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#2880 [21:53] <_Shaft_Master_> so you can't help?
#2881 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> sorry - try in the forge channel
#2882 [21:53] <DiskDaemon> sorry - try in the forge channel
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#2884 [21:54] <jaramio3> do you need the URL from pastebin?
#2885 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> of course
#2886 [21:55] <jaramio3> http://pastebin.com/AGkv4kPC#
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#2888 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> That was brought on by the "Pixel format not accelerated" in the error message.
#2889 [21:56] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: Please follow AuBot's advice
#2890 [21:57] <Squinn1> anyone know a fix for the JRE error message? MC wont even open
#2891 [21:57] <DiskDaemon> Squinn1: Which error message?
#2892 [21:57] <darkshadows6663> whats up here?
#2893 [21:57] <VoxelHead> I "think" it's because of permissions.
#2894 [21:58] <jaramio3> i have done all of that... unfortunetly it seems like my graphics card may have deleted itself. the computer came with the AMD rageon 6720g2 graphics i cant seem to find it
#2895 [21:58] <Squinn1> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x00000000719da2ff, pid=6884, tid=5692
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#2897 [21:58] <darkshadows6663> really now ?your Pc deleted your grafics card?
#2898 [21:58] <DiskDaemon> ??> Squinn1 pastebin
#2899 [21:58] <VoxelHead> Squinn1: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2900 [21:59] <darkshadows6663> Jaramio3 whats the Name of your grafics card and is it a Desktop or a Laptop?
#2901 [22:00] <Squinn1> http://pastebin.com/Lmu2W84m
#2902 [22:00] <Squinn1> there we go
#2903 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> darkshadows6663: A dxdiag report from him would provide that info
#2904 [22:00] <jaramio3> laptop it worked fine about a week ago?
#2905 [22:01] <darkshadows6663> if youve allready located the issue disk all we need to do is provide him with the right drivers and he sould be set to go..
#2906 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> Squinn1: Your graphics drivers need to be updated. That "problematic frame" means that your graphics drivers don't know what to do
#2907 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> Squinn1 win/dxdiag
#2908 [22:01] <VoxelHead> Squinn1: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2909 [22:01] <VoxelHead> Squinn1: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2910 [22:01] <skyboy> disk, even further, that's the same error jaramio is having
#2911 [22:01] <Squinn1> hmmm, tried that and it said they were up to date...
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#2913 [22:01] <skyboy> it's exploding in nChoosePixelFormat
#2914 [22:02] <darkshadows6663> Squinn it isnt allways up2date even if it says its up2date go on the site for your grafics card and download the newest drivers they have for your card.
#2915 [22:02] * DiskDaemon waits for a dxdiag report
#2915 [22:03] <darkshadows6663> heh
#2916 [22:03] <VoxelHead> =) man..
#2917 [22:03] <skyboy> ??>> darkshadows6663 dont/tweet
#2918 [22:03] <Squinn1> http://pastebin.com/vD7mhFKH
#2919 [22:03] <Squinn1> dx report
#2920 [22:04] <darkshadows6663> -.-
#2921 [22:04] <jaramio3> http://pastebin.com/UpJgH74u dxdiag report
#2922 [22:04] <skyboy> ??> Squinn1 gpu/amd
#2923 [22:04] <VoxelHead> Squinn1: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2924 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> ??> Squinn1 gpu/amd
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#2926 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: Your one is liekly to be trickier to resolve
#2927 [22:06] <skyboy> actually, jaramio can go to the same web page and get his drivers
#2928 [22:06] <Squinn1> ok silly question, is there a way to see what my video card is without opening my box?
#2929 [22:06] <jaramio3> yes i have tried to find the graphics card through asus and they dont seem to have it on the site?
#2930 [22:06] <linkfan1896> Squinn: Your video card seems to be a Radeon HD 3450
#2931 [22:07] <Squinn1> yeah just found that
#2932 [22:07] <Squinn1> thanks
#2933 [22:07] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: Yours seems to be an onboard graphics chip, ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K53TA (1.0)
#2934 [22:08] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: Which contains an AMD Radeon HD 6650/6720M
#2935 [22:08] <jaramio3> yes the factory installed was radeon hd 6720g2 but it changed to a standered VGA/
#2936 [22:08] <skyboy> it didn't change, your drivers were removed
#2937 [22:08] <skyboy> ?? gpu/amd
#2938 [22:08] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#2939 [22:11] <skyboy> interesting that two people with the same issue and same card supplier with two different causes both joined at the same time
#2940 [22:12] <DiskDaemon> coincidence's happen
#2941 [22:12] <ryan_the_leach> <Thezone> Hello, could someone help me with my redstone interface?
#2942 [22:12] <ryan_the_leach> man that was a fun fix
#2943 [22:12] <ryan_the_leach> ended up doing rs latches and last detectors
#2944 [22:13] <skyboy> falling edge detectors?
#2945 [22:13] <linkfan1896> Redstone is not my strong suit
#2946 [22:13] <ryan_the_leach> nah, more like station select done with rs latches
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#2948 [22:17] <DiskDaemon> I'm still trying to understand a piston T flip flop
#2949 [22:18] <Squinn1> ok updated drivers lets see what happens!
#2950 [22:18] <Squinn1> BOOSH! you guys are awesome thanks!
#2951 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#2952 [22:19] <jaramio3> I have tried the AMD website and loded the same m already it has not worked
#2953 [22:19] <VoxelHead> Hey.
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#2958 [22:27] <jaramio3> any other advise for the graphics card error?
#2959 [22:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> jaramio3 dont/pm
#2960 [22:27] <VoxelHead> jaramio3: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#2961 [22:28] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: There is only one cause for your problem, which is that the graphics card drivers don;'t know how to handle what they are being requested to to.
#2962 [22:29] <jaramio3> would doing a full recover be best for the situation? if so i would have to contact asus to cover it under woranty
#2963 [22:29] <DiskDaemon> What I would do is to find the most recent graphics drivers for your card, and use those
#2964 [22:30] <jaramio3> i just got a pop-up on my screen i can not copy anything on it would it be ok to type it out?
#2965 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> Yes, type it out
#2966 [22:32] <jaramio3> the amd vision engine control center is not supported by the driver vision of your enabled graphics adapter. please update your amd graphics driver, or enable your amd adapter using the displays manager
#2967 [22:33] <|Anthony|> ugh... amd
#2968 [22:33] <|Anthony|> buddy has a new asus lappy with the APU and dedi gpu
#2969 [22:33] <|Anthony|> still only get ~12 fps
#2970 [22:33] <|Anthony|> i feel bad for him
#2971 [22:35] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: Okay, follow me on this. Your dxdiag report says that you are currently using the graphics device identified as "PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9647&SUBSYS_107C1043&REV_00", right?
#2972 [22:36] <DiskDaemon> That's the identifier for the AMD Radeon HD 6500M Series graphics chip.
#2973 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: So it seems that the drivers that you need to install, are those for the Radeon HD 6500M Series
#2974 [22:38] <jaramio3> right now do i have to trash the standard VGA adaptor becasue thats what changes i have never seen that until everything stoped working?
#2975 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> jaramio3: Because you have a notebook, and it's using Windows 7 64-bit, you should be installing the driver from this page
#2976 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#2977 [22:39] <jaramio3> alright ill give it a shot
#2978 [22:39] <linkfan1896> I found the page Jaramio's laptop, but it has just about everything except display drivers :/
#2979 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> linkfan1896: That page deliberately doesn't have drivers, because the verifical tool "helps to prevent incorrect installation on incompatible notebooks which may lead to disabled features or functionality."
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#2981 [22:45] <linkfan1896> Ah, I see, I figured there was a reason.
#2982 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> We don't want him screwing up his notebook, as he attempts to get minecraft running on it
#2983 [22:47] <linkfan1896> Yeah, I understand completely.
#2984 [22:47] <linkfan1896> Driver installation is tricky
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#2986 [22:48] <jaramio3> DiskDaemon: thank you for your help but nothing has changed with the download i believe i will just recover the computer and if that doesnt work then get it taken care of through asus it should still be under warrenty
#2987 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> Did that download actually install anything, or did it say something else
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#2989 [22:52] <jaramio3> its had a couple of windows with install for the AMD graphics
#2990 [22:52] <jaramio3> the were all installed sucessfuly
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#2994 [23:01] <skyboy> neat, swapping the bug if tree with a switch statement in the renderer increased performance by about 30%
#2995 [23:01] <skyboy> big*
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#2997 [23:02] <skyboy> and apparently reduced memory usage by the same?
#2998 [23:02] <skyboy> from 75 MB to 55 MB
#2999 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> All that from a switch statement? That's quite difficult to accept
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#3001 [23:04] <linkfan1896> I understood some of that!
#3002 [23:06] <skyboy> the memory usage drop might be from something else (run time/etc.)
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#3004 [23:06] <skyboy> the performance, assuming a large variance is more like 10-15%
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#3006 [23:11] <VoxelHead> I wish they didn't have to go T_T.
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#3008 [23:14] <skyboy> i'm not attempting to increase render performance just yet, though; so it's not exactly a test, just observing the FPS
#3009 [23:14] <frogmella> Hey I am running a server on a computer with a 2.4Ghz Dual Core processor, with 2gb ram alloted to it, yet the server still pings super high. I'm on a 20/4 down/up internet, it's just my brother and I who try to play on it and we are on the same network. Any ideas??
#3010 [23:15] <skyboy> i made the switch while making glowstone dust place-able and make a renderer for it so it acts like redstone+uses the same texture
#3011 [23:15] <skyboy> frogmella: what's your server's IP?
#3012 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> frogmella: If you're both on the same local network, connect to the server's local ip address instead
#3013 [23:15] <frogmella> oooo
#3014 [23:16] <frogmella> One sec let me restart it
#3015 [23:16] <skyboy> also, the local IP will be in the 192.168.*.* range; but to check your ping we'll need the external IP
#3016 [23:16] <linkfan_> skyboy: what are you making? a minecraft mod?
#3017 [23:17] <skyboy> linkfan: sorta kinda. i'm just playing with it for fun right now
#3018 [23:17] <linkfan_> oh lol
#3019 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> ;ip frogmella
#3020 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> 97.92.18.112 seems to be the external ip
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#3022 [23:17] <Jackson413> heyo
#3023 [23:18] <skyboy> it is, but the server may or may not be elsewhere
#3024 [23:18] <frogmella> yes that is it
#3025 [23:18] <Jackson413> is something herpderpin' in the minecraft world?
#3026 [23:18] <skyboy> !check 97.92.18.112
#3027 [23:18] <Jackson413> !check pvp.manlyminecraft.net
#3028 [23:18] <Jackson413> !check 69.27.127.193
#3029 [23:19] <Jackson413> that did not seem like a minecraft server?
#3030 [23:19] <Jackson413> wut?
#3031 [23:19] <skyboy> probably bukkit
#3032 [23:19] <linkfan_> Does it display that with bukkit?
#3033 [23:19] <Jackson413> uhm yup
#3034 [23:19] <Jackson413> not usually
#3035 [23:19] <skyboy> apparently yes
#3036 [23:19] <frogmella> weird so was that my server skyboy? the one that had 114ms up there?
#3037 [23:19] <skyboy> yes
#3038 [23:19] <Jackson413> ill check with default real quick
#3039 [23:20] <skyboy> the best ping improvement you could get is 50ms, bring it down to the 50-60 ms range, unless you use the local IP
#3040 [23:20] <skyboy> 192.168.*.*; you'll need to fill in the blanks
#3041 [23:20] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#3042 [23:20] <frogmella> well usually when we ping it, with the normal ip, we get like 1400 ms
#3043 [23:20] <frogmella> but i just pinged the local and got like 100
#3044 [23:20] <Jackson413> hey kealper
#3045 [23:21] <Jackson413> !check 69.27.127.193
#3046 [23:21] <skyboy> your router is causing the delay
#3047 [23:21] <Jackson413> dafuq
#3048 [23:21] <linkfan_> I wouldn't worry about it jackson
#3049 [23:21] <linkfan_> unless something is wrong with your server
#3050 [23:21] <linkfan_> then I would worry about it
#3051 [23:21] <Jackson413> THATS THE PROBLEM
#3052 [23:21] <Jackson413> there IS something wrong with it :(
#3053 [23:21] <skyboy> going outside the rotuer, passing through the general internet, then coming back seems to be highly expensive for your area, frogmella
#3054 [23:21] <DiskDaemon> restart your router, and see if that helps
#3055 [23:22] <skyboy> just don't do it, and you should be fine
#3056 [23:23] <Jackson413> there IS something wrong with it :(
#3057 [23:23] <Jackson413> !check 69.27.127.193
#3058 [23:23] <Jackson413> shit
#3059 [23:24] <skyboy> !check 127.0.0.1
#3060 [23:24] <skyboy> aww.
#3061 [23:24] <Jackson413> !auth
#3062 [23:24] <Jackson413> !isdown
#3063 [23:24] <GreyBot> Jackson413: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#3064 [23:24] <Jackson413> !isup
#3065 [23:24] <Jackson413> oh thats the problem
#3066 [23:24] <skyboy> !login
#3067 [23:25] <Jackson413> phew
#3068 [23:25] <skyboy> !check 97.92.18.112
#3069 [23:25] <skyboy> strange
#3070 [23:25] <linkfan_> what is strange about it?
#3071 [23:26] <skyboy> that server functions fine, but jackson's doesn't. surely it's not the login/auth servers
#3072 [23:26] <linkfan_> Well, when they are down you can still view servers in your server list
#3073 [23:26] <linkfan_> you don't need to connect to a server to view the info provided there
#3074 [23:27] <skyboy> and jackson's doesn't provide that information
#3075 [23:27] <linkfan_> Right, I'm not sure why that is though.
#3076 [23:27] <skyboy> and thus, it can't be the login/auth servers
#3077 [23:27] <linkfan_> jackson, are you on default port?
#3078 [23:27] <skyboy> well, _something_ is running on the default port
#3079 [23:28] <frogmella> yeah my problems all figured out now I guess. i just need to use the local address :P
#3080 [23:28] <skyboy> jackson: i suggest telnet
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#3084 [23:30] <giulia> hey peeps... I need account support.... who should I speak to?
#3085 [23:30] <LInkoz> I need help
#3086 [23:30] <skyboy> ??> giulia accounts
#3087 [23:30] <VoxelHead> giulia: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#3088 [23:30] <skyboy> the login servers are down, however
#3089 [23:31] <LInkoz> When I try to download minecraft it says the server has timed out.
#3090 [23:31] <giulia> it's not the first time I try to solve my problem and they have sent me an e-mail to ask for help already and it's been over a year and no fucking answer
#3091 [23:31] * AuBot kicked giulia from #minecrafthelp (Reason: iulia :Please keep it civil.)
#3092 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> !isdown
#3093 [23:31] <GreyBot> DiskDaemon: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
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#3095 [23:31] <giulia> bah
#3096 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: Try again - they were down a short time ago
#3097 [23:32] <skyboy> we can not help you, giulia.
#3098 [23:32] <giulia> well
#3099 [23:32] <skyboy> am i being unclear?
#3100 [23:32] <LInkoz> Well this has been two day I couldn't download it.
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#3102 [23:32] <skyboy> linkoz: what brwoser do you use?
#3103 [23:32] <LInkoz> firefox
#3104 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: What trouble do you get?
#3105 [23:33] <giulia> it's just frustrating. anyway, great, I can't get help. bye
#3106 [23:33] <LInkoz> this: The server at s3.amazonaws.com is taking too long to respond.
#3107 [23:33] <skyboy> !check s3.amazonaws.com:80
#3108 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: Are you at public internet location?
#3109 [23:34] <LInkoz> No. I'm on my home internet
#3110 [23:34] <LInkoz> but
#3111 [23:34] <LInkoz> my other computer can download it.
#3112 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> Then copy the minecraft.exe launcher from one computer to another
#3113 [23:34] <skyboy> sounds like a hosts issue
#3114 [23:35] <skyboy> a lot of effort and you may potentially mess something up, so copying is the best route
#3115 [23:35] <LInkoz> Well i use Tekkit and tekkit tries to downloading it and can't.
#3116 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: We don't support tekkit here
#3117 [23:36] <LInkoz> I know but you do minecraft and minecraft won't download for me DiskDaemon
#3118 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: Can you download minecraft.exe from the website yourself?
#3119 [23:36] <LInkoz> I can not.
#3120 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> Let's do a trace route to s3.amazonaws.com then
#3121 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: Open up a command prompt and issue this command: tracert s3.amazonaws.com
#3122 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: When it's finished, right-click on the window, select all, press Enter to copy, and paste it up to pastebin.com
#3123 [23:38] <LInkoz> it's a pretty big post.
#3124 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> that's fine
#3125 [23:38] <LInkoz> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Admin>tracert s3.amazonaws.com Tracing route to s3.amazonaws.com [216.238.64.66] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 2 ms 3 ms 2 ms 192.168.1.254 2 33 ms 29 ms 27 ms 99-126-134-2.lightspeed.fyvlar.sbcglobal.net [99 .126.134.2]
#3126 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: Not here!!!
#3127 [23:39] <LInkoz> oh
#3128 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> ??> linkfan_ pastebin
#3129 [23:39] <VoxelHead> linkfan_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#3130 [23:39] <linkfan_> Wrong person, Disk :P
#3131 [23:39] <skyboy> lol, nice tabbing
#3132 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> linkfan_: pardon :)
#3133 [23:39] <linkfan_> No problem lol
#3134 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: Please follow those Pastebin instructions
#3135 [23:40] <LInkoz> do i paste the link here to the pastebin?
#3136 [23:40] <skyboy> yes
#3137 [23:40] <LInkoz> http://pastebin.com/UaSXhLbr
#3138 [23:40] * DiskDaemon mutter imprecations about abilities to follow instructions
#3138 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so it's not a hosts issue, which is good.
#3139 [23:41] <LInkoz> yay
#3140 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: What happens when you try to follow this link: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#3141 [23:41] <LInkoz> "The connection has timed out The server at s3.amazonaws.com is taking too long to respond."
#3142 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: Your other computer that succeeds at connecting, is that on your same network?
#3143 [23:42] <LInkoz> yes.
#3144 [23:42] <skyboy> try using internet explorer, LInkoz
#3145 [23:42] <LInkoz> okay
#3146 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> If you copy the minecraft.exe file to the public documents section of the other computer, you should be able to access that from your current one
#3147 [23:43] <skyboy> disk: since it's not hosts, and tracert can access the server, it may be firefox's proxy settings
#3148 [23:44] <DiskDaemon> good call
#3149 [23:44] <LInkoz> and sky it woudn't "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage"
#3150 [23:44] <skyboy> of course it can't
#3151 [23:45] <skyboy> i hate microsoft
#3152 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> LInkoz: Here's how to reset your proxy settings http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2289942
#3153 [23:46] <skyboy> it may not be the windows proxy settings, disk; particularly since tracert can reach it. it would seem to me that IE is just garbage and firefox's proxy settings are off
#3154 [23:46] <skyboy> (IE couldn't handle a FancyIndex return from apache 2.2)
#3155 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> Both firefox and IE are unable to get there, which means that some deeper system-level issue is going on there
#3156 [23:46] <LInkoz> so get the microsoft fix it?
#3157 [23:47] <skyboy> if it were system-level, tracert and ping would fail
#3158 [23:47] <skyboy> IE fails to display webpages when the headers aren't so-so; it's like a wanna-be art critic
#3159 [23:48] <DiskDaemon> So what would affect both browsers at the same time? Could there be two different issues instead?
#3160 [23:48] <skyboy> it's two issues
#3161 [23:48] <skyboy> issue one: a bad proxy on firefox; issue two: internet explorer
#3162 [23:49] <LInkoz> rofl internet explorer is always and will be bad.
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#3164 [23:49] <skyboy> he has v7/8. and i don't see tracert being able to connect while firefox and IE fail from the same system settings
#3165 [23:50] <skyboy> i am not 100% certain, because windows/microsoft, but it seems highly unlikely to me
#3166 [23:51] <LInkoz> brb. i'm going to restart the browser
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#3170 [23:55] <Linkoz> So I did the microsoft fix it and it didn't work.
#3171 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> Which serves to confirm that it's not a proxy issue
#3172 [23:55] <Elystus> What is going on?
#3173 [23:56] <DiskDaemon> Something really broken is going on with his machine, because he can access s3.amazonaws.com via tracert and suchlike, but not from any browsers
#3174 [23:57] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: does he have any antivirus's?
#3175 [23:57] <Elystus> That sometimes can cause it.
#3176 [23:57] <Linkoz> MSE
#3177 [23:57] <Elystus> Try disabling that.
#3178 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> That's a pretty good one - I wouldn't suspect that but it's worth the confirmation
#3179 [23:58] <Linkoz> Okay i turn it off and now time to try it.
#3180 [23:58] <Elystus> Somebody came in with this issue a while ago. Took me a while to figure it out.
#3181 [23:59] <Linkoz> nope :/ still "The server at s3.amazonaws.com is taking too long to respond."