#1 [00:00] <Flaming_Wafflez> i dont get it
#2 [00:00] <Flaming_Wafflez> at all
#3 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> Oh no, my mistake. It's just two entries about the same graphics chip. He's stuffed.
#4 [00:01] <xales> Flaming_Wafflez: The bottom line is: if you want to play Minecraft, get a computer that comes somewhat close to meeting the requirements.
#5 [00:01] <Elystus> Flaming_Wafflez: I would like to refer you to this page: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance
#6 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> Flaming_Wafflez: Would you like to know the minimum requirements?
#7 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-to-play-minecraft-
#8 [00:01] <Flaming_Wafflez> how..
#9 [00:02] <Flaming_Wafflez> wtf
#10 [00:02] <Flaming_Wafflez> it was running just fine 2 daays ago...
#11 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> If only we could turn back time
#12 [00:02] <skyboy> bottom line: you're lying
#13 [00:02] <Flaming_Wafflez> how
#14 [00:02] <Flaming_Wafflez> u want me to provei ahole???
#15 [00:02] <skyboy> your computer is not able to play minecraft properly
#16 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> ?? causality
#17 [00:02] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#18 [00:02] <Flaming_Wafflez> *it
#19 [00:02] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#20 [00:03] <skyboy> ?? attitude
#21 [00:03] <VoxelHead> attitude: The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#22 [00:03] <VoxelHead> attitude: In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#23 [00:03] * xales whirls Banjolnir
#23 [00:03] <skyboy> heh
#24 [00:03] <Flaming_Wafflez> IM the Jerk?? ur kidding me man..
#25 [00:03] <skyboy> i like it when ops name their banhammers
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#27 [00:04] <skyboy> Flaming_Wafflez: your computer is incapable of running minecraft properly
#28 [00:04] <Wug> ive run it on less
#29 [00:04] <Flaming_Wafflez> the howd it run??
#30 [00:04] <Flaming_Wafflez> huh?
#31 [00:04] <Flaming_Wafflez> tell me that
#32 [00:04] <skyboy> Wug: on far render distance with no lag?
#33 [00:04] <Wug> xales: get him his driver link
#34 [00:05] <Wug> skyboy: oh, it ran horribly
#35 [00:05] <Flaming_Wafflez> well not far but normal
#36 [00:05] <xales> Wug: He already said he installed the latest driver. From 2004.
#37 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> Flaming_Wafflez: You may have had it running earlier, but in all of our experience here, we do not know how to help someone with your computer specs
#38 [00:05] <Wug> but the computer literally was crappy compared to that
#39 [00:05] <skyboy> 2004 is the latest driver?
#40 [00:05] <Wug> fine ill do it
#41 [00:05] <skyboy> how old is that computer
#42 [00:05] <xales> skyboy: Old.
#43 [00:05] <skyboy> at least my latest is from 2006
#44 [00:06] <Flaming_Wafflez> ok jus hld on
#45 [00:06] <Flaming_Wafflez> ill tell u
#46 [00:06] <skyboy> and my chip is actually no longer supported by intel xP
#47 [00:06] <Flaming_Wafflez> the current driver i have is the one i could run MC offof
#48 [00:06] <Flaming_Wafflez> ive updated it once
#49 [00:06] <Flaming_Wafflez> didnt work
#50 [00:06] <Flaming_Wafflez> i couldnt update it more
#51 [00:07] <Flaming_Wafflez> so i rolled it bak
#52 [00:07] <Elystus> Flaming_Wafflez: Graphics drivers can get messed up. Sometimes a full reinstall or update is required to fix the issue.
#53 [00:07] <Elystus> or the drivers*
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#55 [00:07] <Wug> Flaming_Wafflez: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=922&DwnldID=10099
#56 [00:07] <skyboy> !paid Flaming_Wafflez
#57 [00:07] <Wug> most recent
#58 [00:07] <skyboy> it's not like he can play anyway
#59 [00:07] <helps> Hey, trying to setup a server under a belkin router and having some small issues
#60 [00:07] <Wug> its out of date but its later than 2004
#61 [00:07] <Elystus> skyboy: he may not have used that username
#62 [00:07] <xales> helps: What issues?
#63 [00:07] <Flaming_Wafflez> aaand
#64 [00:07] <Flaming_Wafflez> ???
#65 [00:08] <Wug> start with that
#66 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Flaming_Wafflez: What is your minecraft username?
#67 [00:08] <Flaming_Wafflez> i use mo brothers acct
#68 [00:08] <helps> There's a listing for internal port, and private port. As well as the internal IP, which I figured out through command prompt
#69 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Flaming_Wafflez: which is?
#70 [00:08] <helps> setting both internal, and private to 25565 didn't do anything.
#71 [00:08] <Flaming_Wafflez> creeper_pwn3r
#72 [00:09] <Flaming_Wafflez> but i usually play offline
#73 [00:09] <skyboy> !paid crepper_pwn3r
#74 [00:09] <helps> won't even come up as opened on canyouseeme.org
#75 [00:09] <skyboy> !paid creeper_pwn3r
#76 [00:09] <skyboy> it would help if i could spell
#77 [00:09] <xales> helps: Do you have the server running when you check it?
#78 [00:09] <helps> No, but we could check that
#79 [00:09] <Flaming_Wafflez> im not trying to run a server
#80 [00:09] <xales> That would be why; the server needs to be running when you check it.
#81 [00:09] <skyboy> ??>> Flaming_Wafflez only/you
#82 [00:09] <helps> Kay, gonna run it and check.
#83 [00:09] <slowfi> maybe it's his mom's minecraft account
#84 [00:10] <Flaming_Wafflez> hes the jerk ^^
#85 [00:10] <Elystus> And calling out said jerks will get you nowhere.
#86 [00:11] <helps> Just checked it.
#87 [00:11] <Flaming_Wafflez> ...
#88 [00:11] <helps> It says that the connection timed out
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#90 [00:11] <xales> helps: Did you put an IP address into server.properties? There shouldn't be one.
#91 [00:11] <helps> We did not.
#92 [00:11] <skyboy> try running minecraft on 25555, and set the internal port to that
#93 [00:11] <skyboy> leave the external port as 25565
#94 [00:12] <xales> Oh, wait
#95 [00:12] <xales> RED ALERT.
#96 [00:12] <helps> Server IP is NOT set.
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#98 [00:12] <xales> helps: Your ISP is Clearwire WiMax, right?
#99 [00:13] <cmberry> hello my account got haket
#100 [00:13] <xales> cmberry: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#101 [00:13] <helps> skyboy: Gimme one sec
#102 [00:13] <Wug> webchat@184-76-119-85.war.clearwire-wmx.net
#103 [00:13] <skyboy> helps: wait
#104 [00:13] <xales> Wug: I know.
#105 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> cmberry: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#106 [00:13] <xales> I'm just checking, sometimes DNS is stale. :p
#107 [00:13] <skyboy> the issue may be with your ISP rather than with the router
#108 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> gah :)
#109 [00:13] <xales> DiskDaemon: /greplog :D
#110 [00:14] <helps> skyboy: I was wrong with the name; its inbound port, not incoming.
#111 [00:14] <helps> Though the other is called private
#112 [00:15] <Wug> xales: I made one of those
#113 [00:15] <Flaming_Wafflez> DiskDaemon: this is wat it says http://pastebin.com/tC6GE7fW
#114 [00:15] <xales> Wug: My client has it built in. :p
#115 [00:15] <Wug> mines called slog
#116 [00:15] <skyboy> it doesn't matter. external is the one connections come in to the router, internal is the one connections to your computer are made on
#117 [00:15] <helps> Okay So we'll change that up.
#118 [00:15] <skyboy> it may not matter, helps
#119 [00:16] <skyboy> xales: what secret information about clearwire do you have?
#120 [00:16] <helps> She's running with comcast; they've never had an issue with servers before... I'm wondering what else it may be.
#121 [00:16] <Flaming_Wafflez> this is what the error thing says http://pastebin.com/tC6GE7fW
#122 [00:17] <Elystus> AUbot reads pastebins :O
#123 [00:17] <xales> skyboy: They assign RFC1918 addresses (ex 192.168.x.x) instead of public addresses, so port forwarding doesn't really "do" anything.
#124 [00:17] <skyboy> ??> Flaming_Wafflez dont/bother
#125 [00:17] <VoxelHead> Flaming_Wafflez: (dont/bother) If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
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#127 [00:18] <skyboy> xales: wow. do they just now know how to configure their routers?
#128 [00:18] <DiskDaemon> Flaming_Wafflez: Also, go and plkay on your brothers computer, instead of using his account on yours
#129 [00:18] <xales> skyboy: Something like that.
#130 [00:18] <skyboy> helps: so the server is hosted on a comcast-connected computer?
#131 [00:18] <ioime96> how do i get my account registered for the minecraft channel
#132 [00:19] <ioime96> i signed up
#133 [00:19] <helps> skyboy: Yes.
#134 [00:19] <xales> ??> ioime96 irc
#135 [00:19] <VoxelHead> ioime96: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#136 [00:19] <VoxelHead> ioime96: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#137 [00:19] <helps> We've run servers with comcast connected comps though.
#138 [00:19] <Flaming_Wafflez> u guys are a bunch of jerks urselves... iits not as simple as "get a less crappy computer"... and u oughta know tht btw my bro's at college which is 200 miles away
#139 [00:19] <xales> Flaming_Wafflez: Actually, it is that simple.
#140 [00:19] <Flaming_Wafflez> asshole
#141 [00:19] <xales> If you aren't going to listen to advice, don't ask for it.
#142 [00:19] <helps> skyboy: Also, Changing those did not help. Same issue.
#143 [00:19] <xales> Bye now.
#144 [00:19] <Flaming_Wafflez> goodbye
#145 [00:19] * VoxelHead kicked Flaming_Wafflez from #minecrafthelp (Reason: laming_Wafflez :Banned)
#146 [00:19] <xales> wat
#147 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> Flaming_Wafflez: It's as exactly as simple as get a less crappy computer.
#148 [00:20] * DiskDaemon mutters under breath
#148 [00:20] <xales> hm
#149 [00:20] <xales> this client is funky
#150 [00:20] * helps likes you guys?
#150 [00:20] * Elystus pats DiskDaemon on the back.
#150 [00:20] <skyboy> helps: can they connect via 127.0.0.1:25555?
#151 [00:20] <helps> Huh?
#152 [00:20] <skyboy> can they connect on their computer locally
#153 [00:20] <helps> So have her connect to 127.0.0.1 instead of localhoast?
#154 [00:21] <Wug> xales: lol *!*@._.
#155 [00:21] <skyboy> 127.0.0.1 == localhost
#156 [00:21] <helps> she can connect by typing in localhost
#157 [00:21] <skyboy> but does it work locally?
#158 [00:21] <xales> Wug: I'll just leave that.
#159 [00:21] <helps> MMhmm
#160 [00:21] <skyboy> okay.
#161 [00:21] <helps> We had the exact same build working on a friend's computer just the other day; he just can't host it. Which is why we're trying on hers.
#162 [00:22] <xales> Aaanyway.
#163 [00:22] <skyboy> yeah, i'm thinking its' the fire wall
#164 [00:22] * xales is off to bed now. o/
#164 [00:22] <Elystus> Night Zales
#165 [00:22] <skyboy> is it blocking java or connections to java?
#166 [00:22] <Elystus> Xales*
#167 [00:22] <helps> The router firewall?
#168 [00:22] <skyboy> no, the computer firewall
#169 [00:22] <helps> I can have her shut that down. She already shut down windows firewall
#170 [00:22] <skyboy> are there any other firewalls?
#171 [00:23] <helps> She doesn't have any other firewall programs.
#172 [00:23] <helps> The only one she has running is the router firewall.
#173 [00:23] <skyboy> you're bypassing that
#174 [00:24] <helps> Ahhhh
#175 [00:24] <skyboy> anyone else have any suggestions for what might be blocking connections to minecraft?
#176 [00:24] <helps> Would be much appreciated
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#178 [00:25] <Elystus> skyboy: What has been done so far?
#179 [00:25] <skyboy> server-ip is fine, router is correct, firewalls is down, ISP is green
#180 [00:26] <skyboy> connections time out
#181 [00:26] <DiskDaemon> Does a local connection to the server work?
#182 [00:26] <helps> Yessir
#183 [00:26] <skyboy> yes
#184 [00:26] <Elystus> Try local ipv4
#185 [00:26] <Elystus> oh nvm
#186 [00:26] <skyboy> helps: what's the IP of the server?
#187 [00:26] <Elystus> ;ip helps
#188 [00:26] <skyboy> just so we can check it from here for ease
#189 [00:26] <helps> 76.115.196.225
#190 [00:26] <helps> AAH
#191 [00:26] <helps> Wait
#192 [00:26] <Elystus> ;-; Wugbot
#193 [00:26] <|Kiikun|> !check 76.115.196.225
#194 [00:26] <helps> 76.115.193.225
#195 [00:26] <helps> Thats it
#196 [00:26] <skyboy> !check 76.115.192.255
#197 [00:26] <helps> 193
#198 [00:27] <Elystus> skyboy: You changed the server port didn'y you?
#199 [00:27] <Elystus> didn't*
#200 [00:27] <|Kiikun|> !check 184.76.119.85
#201 [00:27] <skyboy> internally, external is still 25565
#202 [00:27] <skyboy> !check 76.115.193.255
#203 [00:27] <Elystus> skyboy: Okay
#204 [00:27] <DiskDaemon> How about using a port checker tool, which ensures that the port is open and capable of communicating?
#205 [00:27] <Elystus> ^
#206 [00:27] <helps> !check 76.115.193.225
#207 [00:28] <helps> The message it gives us when we try to connect is that it timed out on connection
#208 [00:28] <helps> canyouseeme.org says that it isn't open
#209 [00:28] <Elystus> port checker http://portforward.com/store/pfconfig.cgi
#210 [00:28] <helps> But we've opened it up.
#211 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> canyouseeme.org only works if the server is open and capable of receiving
#212 [00:28] <Elystus> http://www.portforward.com/store/PFPortChecker.exe
#213 [00:28] <skyboy> virtual server entry is enabled, correct?
#214 [00:28] <DiskDaemon> What is wanted is that port checker program, so that things can be checked from internally towards the outside
#215 [00:29] <skyboy> also, use the portforward checker; it'll create its own server and check
#216 [00:29] <Elystus> make sure the server is not running when you use the port checker
#217 [00:30] <helps> I assume virtual server is on. the only option under the router for virtual servers is the port forwarding window.
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#219 [00:32] <skyboy> !check 76.115.193.255
#220 [00:36] <helps> Okay; so that port checker tool won't work at all.
#221 [00:36] <helps> No idea why.
#222 [00:37] <Elystus> How so
#223 [00:37] <Elystus> skyboy: Might I recommend teamviewer at this point?
#224 [00:37] <helps> Sky; its 76.115.193.225
#225 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> I think there was trouble with that port checker on windows 7. I have an earlier one that works
#226 [00:37] <skyboy> !check 76.115.193.225
#227 [00:38] <skyboy> it would help if i could type.
#228 [00:38] <helps> It loads up and then immediately closes when we chose not to install ask
#229 [00:38] <DiskDaemon> called PFPortChecker1.0.39
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#231 [00:39] <DiskDaemon> Which I see is downloadable from http://www.2shared.com/file/hAgDvmmf/PFPortChecker1039.html
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#234 [00:40] <skyboy> oh, did that guy who couldn't establish connections ever come back?
#235 [00:40] <skyboy> oh, did that guy who couldn't establish connections ever come back?
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#237 [00:41] <helps> Huh?
#238 [00:42] * helps never left
#238 [00:42] <skyboy> unrelated to your problem
#239 [00:42] <helps> Coolio
#240 [00:42] <helps> !check 76.115.193.225
#241 [00:43] <skyboy> helps, i don't think that IP is correct
#242 [00:43] <skyboy> i can't even ping it
#243 [00:44] <helps> I'm using a screensharer with her. thats the one
#244 [00:44] <Elystus> If only wugbot were here ;-;
#245 [00:44] <helps> Even with all this the connection times out
#246 [00:44] <DiskDaemon> Is the computer that helps is testing, the same one that he is using here now?
#247 [00:44] <skyboy> go to whatismyip.com and copy the address from there
#248 [00:44] <helps> Disk; no
#249 [00:44] <skyboy> the one he's testing
#250 [00:44] <helps> Sky; thats it.
#251 [00:44] <helps> Thats the site we used rather xD
#252 [00:45] <skyboy> well, i can't even ping it
#253 [00:45] <skyboy> trace route shows nothing
#254 [00:45] <DiskDaemon> What's the best way to confirm the ip address. Using ipchicken.com ?
#255 [00:45] <Elystus> is there a proxy set uP?
#256 [00:53] <skyboy> !ping
#257 [00:53] <GreyBot> skyboy Your Ping time was 0.64 seconds.
#258 [00:55] <helps> Thanks anyways for the help guys; we're gonna try it again another day
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#260 [01:01] <Rikairchy> !ping
#261 [01:01] <GreyBot> Rikairchy Your Ping time was 0.328 seconds.
#262 [01:02] <Rikairchy> !ping 8.8.8.8
#263 [01:02] <Elystus> !ping
#264 [01:02] <GreyBot> Elystus Your Ping time was 0.671 seconds.
#265 [01:02] <Rikairchy> !ping google.com
#266 [01:02] <Rikairchy> usux
#267 [01:03] <zkxs> !check !ping 8.8.8.8
#268 [01:04] <skyboy> !paid !ping
#269 [01:04] <zkxs> ah, it is paid
#270 [01:04] <skyboy> !paid !paid AuBot
#271 [01:04] <skyboy> aw.
#272 [01:04] <zkxs> so it seems the bots are clever enough to ignore each other
#273 [01:04] <skyboy> nope
#274 [01:04] <zkxs> !paid !ping 8.8.8.8
#275 [01:04] <skyboy> !ping hellp
#276 [01:04] <skyboy> s/p/o/
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#278 [01:24] <|Kiichan|> o.o;
#279 [01:25] <Elystus> ?
#280 [01:26] <|Kiichan|> nuttins
#281 [01:26] <skyboy> ~Exit
#282 [01:28] * Rikairchy ragequit
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#283 [01:30] <skyboy> is it bad that i'm using my TODO list as an oven timer?
#284 [01:31] <zkxs> A kludge (or kluge) is a workaround, an ad hoc engineering solution, a clumsy or inelegant solution to a problem, typically using parts that are cobbled together. Kludges are particularly widespread in computer programs, where processing speed is such that they may not make a big difference in performance. http://a.vu/w:Kludge
#285 [01:32] <Elystus> ..........
#286 [01:32] <Elystus> I always forget about that >_>
#287 [01:32] <Rikairchy> hehh
#288 [01:32] <Rikairchy> bot told ya to stfu
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#290 [01:33] <Elystus> Yep :3
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#292 [01:34] <skyboy> interesting
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#301 [01:55] <EminemPlaya> Hey!
#302 [01:56] <EminemPlaya> Anyone there?
#303 [01:56] <EminemPlaya> HAY!
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#305 [01:57] <jord> i need to know the server address for bowcraft on minecraft premium
#306 [01:59] <zkxs> What is this "bowcraft"?
#307 [01:59] <jord> a server
#308 [02:00] <zkxs> Using my good friend google I found this forum post: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1111155-bowcraft-pvp-survival-bukkit-worldguard-cracked/
#309 [02:01] <jord> no
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#311 [02:02] <jord> anyone no anything about bowcraft
#312 [02:02] <skyboy> go to #smp
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#314 [02:10] <mtjaxter> Hey all, how do you turn on large_biome generation in the server multiplayer version of the latest test jar?
#315 [02:10] <skyboy> we don't support prereleases
#316 [02:10] <skyboy> also, check the wiki
#317 [02:10] <skyboy> they're usually pretty on top of things
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#323 [02:38] <isit2004> Hello
#324 [02:38] <isit2004> Can anyone help me?
#325 [02:38] <skyboy> ??> isit2004 ask
#326 [02:39] <VoxelHead> isit2004: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#327 [02:39] <VoxelHead> isit2004: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#328 [02:39] <isit2004> ok
#329 [02:39] <isit2004> Can you help me locate my .jar file
#330 [02:39] <isit2004> None of my files are named it
#331 [02:39] <skyboy> ??> isit2004 win/.minecraft
#332 [02:39] <VoxelHead> isit2004: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#333 [02:39] <isit2004> huh?
#334 [02:40] <isit2004> where do i type win/.minecraft
#335 [02:40] <skyboy> ??> isit2004 win/key
#336 [02:40] <VoxelHead> isit2004: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
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#338 [02:41] <|Kiichan|> isit2004: follow the instructions from VoxelHead.
#339 [02:41] <bozo97> when i try connect to a server it says connection refused connect
#340 [02:41] <isit2004> im there
#341 [02:41] <|Kiichan|> isit2004: lines starting with ?? are just to tell the bot to do things
#342 [02:41] <isit2004> but
#343 [02:41] <isit2004> i cant find anything
#344 [02:41] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: whats the ip so we can check it
#345 [02:41] <skyboy> did you run the launcher
#346 [02:41] <isit2004> which one of the files should it be in?
#347 [02:42] <bozo97> its every server i try join
#348 [02:42] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: try mc.minecraftirc.net
#349 [02:42] <isit2004> do i check the bin file?
#350 [02:42] <Necrodoom> isit2004: minecraft.jar is in .minecraft/bin
#351 [02:42] <isit2004> im in bin
#352 [02:42] <isit2004> all i see
#353 [02:42] <isit2004> is
#354 [02:42] <isit2004> minecraft
#355 [02:43] <isit2004> minecraft 1.2.5
#356 [02:43] <Necrodoom> isit2004: minecraft 1.2.5?
#357 [02:43] <isit2004> yes
#358 [02:43] <Necrodoom> isit2004: as in, a folder?
#359 [02:43] <isit2004> no java file
#360 [02:43] <bozo97> still wont connect
#361 [02:43] <|Kiichan|> isit2004: have you ever used mcpatcher?
#362 [02:43] <Necrodoom> isit2004: what is your minecraft username?
#363 [02:43] <isit2004> no but i have it
#364 [02:43] <isit2004> I have McPatcher
#365 [02:43] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: windows or your firewall is denying java access to the internet.
#366 [02:44] <bozo97> so what do i do
#367 [02:44] <isit2004> bozo theres cracked servers but unpaid minecraft users use it
#368 [02:44] <|Kiichan|> isit2004: the minecraft 1.2.5.jar file is a copy of minecraft.jar before patching :P there shoudl be alot of other files there
#369 [02:44] <isit2004> well theres natives
#370 [02:44] <isit2004> 1 more bin
#371 [02:44] <bozo97> i have a premiun account
#372 [02:44] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: check your windows firewall first for java
#373 [02:44] <isit2004> jinimput
#374 [02:44] <bozo97> how??
#375 [02:45] <isit2004> version
#376 [02:45] <isit2004> not much
#377 [02:45] <isit2004> rest is just java files
#378 [02:45] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: windows firewall in control panel
#379 [02:45] <skyboy> "minecraft" is "minecraft.jar" if it isn't a folder
#380 [02:45] <skyboy> windows hides file extensions by default
#381 [02:45] <isit2004> oh...
#382 [02:45] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: this is win 7? (asumgin windows still)
#383 [02:45] <isit2004> lol
#384 [02:45] <isit2004> then
#385 [02:45] <isit2004> how do i
#386 [02:45] <isit2004> open minecraft
#387 [02:46] <skyboy> run the launcher
#388 [02:46] <bozo97> yes its windows 7
#389 [02:46] <|Kiichan|> ??> isit2004 do/,
#390 [02:46] <VoxelHead> isit2004: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#391 [02:46] <Necrodoom> isit2004: open the minecraft.jar using winzip, or 7zip
#392 [02:46] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: easiest way is yupe firewall in the start-searchbox and click Windows Firewall
#393 [02:46] <skyboy> you downloaded a minecraft.exe, you should never try to run anything else
#394 [02:46] <bozo97> yea im on it what do i do then
#395 [02:46] <skyboy> if you're looking to apply mods:
#396 [02:46] <skyboy> ??> isit2004 mods
#397 [02:46] <VoxelHead> isit2004: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#398 [02:46] <VoxelHead> isit2004: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#399 [02:46] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: thenon the left click Allow a program through windows firewall
#400 [02:47] <bozo97> yea then what
#401 [02:47] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: then look for Java(TM) Platform.. yada yada... and make sure they are checked to allow
#402 [02:47] <isit2004> its just the minecraft.jar
#403 [02:47] <isit2004> i cant even find that
#404 [02:47] <isit2004> it worries me like part of my files r messed up
#405 [02:48] <bozo97> its not there
#406 [02:48] <Necrodoom> isit2004: you found the minecraft.jar, no?
#407 [02:48] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: theres no Java listed?
#408 [02:48] <isit2004> I have .minecraft in there is that it?
#409 [02:48] <bozo97> correct
#410 [02:49] <Necrodoom> isit2004: .minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#411 [02:49] <Necrodoom> since your extensions are hidden, the file is called minecraft
#412 [02:49] <isit2004> oh ok
#413 [02:49] <isit2004> good lol so ive found it
#414 [02:49] * |Kiichan| thinks
#414 [02:49] <isit2004> thanks guys
#415 [02:50] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: click 'allow another program'
#416 [02:50] <bozo97> yea
#417 [02:50] <|Kiichan|> click browse... then go to c:\program files\
#418 [02:51] <|Kiichan|> java, jre7 or jre6
#419 [02:51] <isit2004> and does the irc support on how to open it lol
#420 [02:51] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: bin.. and select the java.exe
#421 [02:51] <Necrodoom> isit2004: i told you, winzip or 7zip
#422 [02:51] <skyboy> to run minecraft, you run the minecraft.exe you downloaded
#423 [02:51] <|Kiichan|> waitwait.. javaw.exe
#424 [02:51] <Necrodoom> isit2004: its pretty much a renamed .zip file
#425 [02:52] <|Kiichan|> Necrodoom: actually the minecraft exe is a wrapped jar :P
#426 [02:52] <bozo97> yes
#427 [02:52] <Necrodoom> |Kiichan|: he isnt talking about the launcher
#428 [02:52] <|Kiichan|> oh.
#429 [02:52] <skyboy> i'm not sure he isn;t
#430 [02:52] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: then click add.
#431 [02:52] <skyboy> s/;/'/
#432 [02:52] <bozo97> yea now its there
#433 [02:53] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: then maske sure its checked to allow
#434 [02:53] <|Kiichan|> and try servers again :3
#435 [02:53] <bozo97> nope
#436 [02:54] <skyboy> did you restart minecraft?
#437 [02:54] <|Kiichan|> using anythgin else for an antivirus/firewall/security suite?
#438 [02:55] <bozo97> i restarted minecraft still not working
#439 [02:55] <|Kiichan|> otherwise im calling it javaderpery and havign you reinstall java.
#440 [02:56] <bozo97> what
#441 [02:56] <skyboy> don't forget, it could also be a router along his path to the servers that's blocking 25565
#442 [02:56] <bozo97> ive played on them before
#443 [02:56] <skyboy> most likely the one closet: the school's or landlord's
#444 [02:57] * |Kiichan| doesnt know any server offhand that doesnt use 25565 :/
#444 [02:58] <bozo97> i usually play on them most days
#445 [03:00] <bozo97> so what do i do
#446 [03:02] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: go into Programs and Features in contrl pannel and uninstall all copies of java.
#447 [03:02] <bozo97> then what
#448 [03:02] <|Kiichan|> then get the latest version from www.java.com
#449 [03:02] <|Kiichan|> make sure to get both 32 and 64 bit versions if you have a 64bit os
#450 [03:03] <|Kiichan|> better link: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
#451 [03:04] <Scott> Someone fetch me apple sauce. :(
#452 [03:05] <skyboy> ??> Scott give/applesauce
#453 [03:05] <skyboy> i tried
#454 [03:05] <Scott> Oh wrong channel, lol.
#455 [03:05] <Scott> I wonder if I can get Apple branded apple sauce.
#456 [03:06] <Scott> I imagine cinnamon apple sauce would be Jailbroken.
#457 [03:06] <|Kiichan|> indeed
#458 [03:06] <|Kiichan|> actually...
#459 [03:07] <skyboy> iApples
#460 [03:07] * |Kiichan| gets some motts apple sauce singles and puts an apple sticker on the top
#460 [03:07] * |Kiichan| hands them to Scott
#460 [03:08] <bozo97> still not working
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#462 [03:09] <Steelwank> How do I make cows have sex so I can have more cows that I will slaughter while they haven't even matured yet?
#463 [03:09] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: ok 2 minutes.. messing with my network and startign a server on a random port
#464 [03:09] <Steelwank> Because I feel like fertilizing the ground for my wheat using cooked beef.
#465 [03:09] <Scott> I wish Apple made this: http://www.macdaddynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/kool-aid_lime.jpg
#466 [03:09] <bozo97> what
#467 [03:10] <|Kiichan|> Steelwank: 1) watch the language, this is a kid-friendly channel usually :P 2) rightlci kwith wheat
#468 [03:10] <Steelwank> Kiichan: Kids already know what is sex, they learn that from school. Nothing to worry about.
#469 [03:10] <Steelwank> Also right click with wheat who? The cow?
#470 [03:11] <Scott> Side-effects of Apple Kool-Aid include strained friendships and loss of appetite for critical thinking. Seek immediate medical attention if you experience Apple Store shopping sprees lasting four hours or more.
#471 [03:11] <bozo97> still not helping me and do cows have sex
#472 [03:11] <Scott> lolol.
#473 [03:11] <Steelwank> Well that's the problem because I cannot find a bull.
#474 [03:11] <|Kiichan|> !check kiichan.is-a-geek.net:8264
#475 [03:11] <Steelwank> There are only female cows without any trail of male reproductional organs.
#476 [03:11] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: try connectign there.
#477 [03:11] <bozo97> where
#478 [03:12] <|Kiichan|> kiichan.is-a-geek.net:8264
#479 [03:12] <bozo97> do i do the 8264 bit
#480 [03:13] <|Kiichan|> yes. thats the port
#481 [03:13] <|Kiichan|> just makign sure your 25565 isnt specificly blocked
#482 [03:13] <|Kiichan|> dh?
#483 [03:14] <bozo97> im in
#484 [03:14] <|Kiichan|> hmm.. then it seems someoen has blocked your 25565 port on the network...
#485 [03:14] * |Kiichan| kills the server :P
#485 [03:15] <|Kiichan|> bozo97: do you have anythign liek norton, mcafee, eset? a secuirty suite with a firewall?
#486 [03:15] <bozo97> mcafee
#487 [03:16] <|Kiichan|> ok to check if its mcafee blocking it... disable mcafee's firewall for a few minutes and try connectign to mc.minecraftirc.net (or any other server) again.
#488 [03:16] <bozo97> ok
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#490 [03:17] <|Kiichan|> if its not mcafee.. then its a hardware firewall or router specificly blockign it.
#491 [03:18] <bozo97> how do i turn of the mcafee firewall
#492 [03:18] <|Kiichan|> which usually means someone blocked it on purpose so youll have to talk to whoever manages your network :P
#493 [03:18] <|Kiichan|> erm...
#494 [03:18] <|Kiichan|> dont use mcafee myself ^^:
#495 [03:19] <|Kiichan|> google, go! http://www.ehow.com/how_4828337_disable-mcafee-firewall.html
#496 [03:19] <Steelwank> bozo97
#497 [03:19] <Steelwank> Go to McAfee menu and search for an option of firewall.
#498 [03:19] <Dylan> Sorry if im not allowed to do this but me and my gf are having a go at streaming which is at http://www.justin.tv/dylanbarberdude
#499 [03:19] <Steelwank> We do not give a shit about that.
#500 [03:19] <|Kiichan|> !kick Dylan no adv
#501 [03:19] * AuBot kicked Dylan from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ylan :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by |Kiichan| with reason: no adv))
#502 [03:20] <Steelwank> I am going to that stream to harass them.
#503 [03:20] <|Kiichan|> dont :/
#504 [03:20] <skyboy> let us know if they're naked
#505 [03:20] <nimrod> LOL
#506 [03:20] <skyboy> or at least let me know
#507 [03:20] <Steelwank> They have commited a reprehensible mistake and my responsibility is to punish them.
#508 [03:20] <|Kiichan|> id say watch mine.. but thatd be advertizing :P
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#510 [03:20] <Steelwank> skyboy: Don't worry, we'll gang-bang her.
#511 [03:20] <|Kiichan|> Dylan: dont advertise.
#512 [03:20] <bozo97> well this is bozo97's sister and he told to do this for him but i dont no what
#513 [03:20] <Dylan> Il take that as im not sorry
#514 [03:20] <Steelwank> Dylan, I want to bone your girl friend.
#515 [03:20] <Steelwank> How old is she?
#516 [03:21] <Dylan> FUCK OFF STEELWANK
#517 [03:21] * AuBot kicked Dylan from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ylan :Please keep it civil.)
#518 [03:21] <Steelwank> \o/
#519 [03:21] <Steelwank> That was just PERFECT.
#520 [03:21] <Steelwank> A surgical move.
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#522 [03:21] <skyboy> aubot auto kicks
#523 [03:21] <Dylan> oh
#524 [03:21] <Andrio> ^
#525 [03:21] <Steelwank> Dylan, there is no need to be upset.
#526 [03:21] <Steelwank> Your GF is going to leave you for someone else anyways.
#527 [03:21] * |Kiichan| is makign sure theres a rule before muting steal.
#527 [03:22] <Dylan> she left someone else for me
#528 [03:22] <Steelwank> I will come to your stream and ask her if she wants to do it with me.
#529 [03:22] <Steelwank> Is that okay with you Dylan?
#530 [03:22] <|Kiichan|> Steelwank: ok rule 2, dont troll. please stop
#531 [03:22] <skyboy> honestly, dylan, people leave each other for someoen else all the time
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#533 [03:22] <Dylan> shes 13
#534 [03:22] <skyboy> but what's the divorce rate in the US? 1 in 3?
#535 [03:22] <Steelwank> 13? I don't bone under-age girls.
#536 [03:23] <Steelwank> If she would be 18 then it'll be fine.
#537 [03:23] <Steelwank> Sorry.
#538 [03:23] <skyboy> i think you got your tenses wrong
#539 [03:23] <Steelwank> skyboy: What?
#540 [03:23] <|Kiichan|> Steelwank: im gonna kick you if you dont stop... i dont have wugbot to just mute you :P
#541 [03:23] <Steelwank> Kiichan: It's okay, she's 13, I don't like little girls.
#542 [03:23] <skyboy> "would be" "will be"
#543 [03:23] <skyboy> in the same sentence
#544 [03:24] <bozo97> i still need help
#545 [03:24] <Steelwank> Sorry, but Engrish isn't my native language after all.
#546 [03:24] <skyboy> |Kiichan|: try !quiet
#547 [03:24] <|Kiichan|> !kick Steelwank Rule2: Dont Troll. Rule7: No harrasing or abusive language
#548 [03:24] * AuBot kicked Steelwank from #minecrafthelp (Reason: teelwank :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by |Kiichan| with reason: Rule2: Dont Troll. Rule7: No harrasing or abusive language))
#549 [03:24] <|Kiichan|> !quiet |Kiikun|Janus|
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#551 [03:24] <|Kiichan|> no workie :P
#552 [03:24] <bozo97> qhat
#553 [03:25] <bozo97> what*
#554 [03:25] <Dylan> my mc just crashed D:
#555 [03:25] * |Kiichan| 's surprised he has aubot kick access actually :3
#555 [03:25] <|Kiichan|> XD
#556 [03:25] * skyboy !voice skyboy
#556 [03:25] * skyboy !voice aubot
#556 [03:26] <skyboy> aww.
#557 [03:26] <bozo97> im just gonna leave this for when bozo97 gets back evan though it will be like 20 minutes
#558 [03:26] <|Kiichan|> not that easy
#559 [03:26] <|Kiichan|> ok bozo97
#560 [03:26] * |Kiichan| wont be here though
#560 [03:26] <bozo97> i will leave this screen ojn though so yeah
#561 [03:26] <skyboy> !paid !voice skyboy
#562 [03:27] <|Kiichan|> sky: pleae dont abuse aubot
#563 [03:27] <bozo97> bye
#564 [03:27] <skyboy> it is worth investigating, though :P
#565 [03:27] <skyboy> if i manage to trick aubot into voicing me, then someone can make aubot op them, and that would end badly
#566 [03:27] <|Kiichan|> and calling... wait... *forgots who aubot's master is*
#567 [03:29] <Dylan> with xsplit how do i choose which game im playing?
#568 [03:30] <skyboy> that's either not minecraft or a mod
#569 [03:30] <|Kiichan|> you buy a license?
#570 [03:30] <|Kiichan|> xsplit = livestream program
#571 [03:30] * |Kiichan| uses too
#571 [03:31] <bozo97> im back
#572 [03:32] <bozo97> what now
#573 [03:33] <bozo97> your not much help???
#574 [03:33] <|Kiichan|> bozo: your network or firewall is blockign your 25565 port.
#575 [03:33] <bozo97> so what do i do
#576 [03:33] <skyboy> if it's a firewall, you unblock it
#577 [03:33] <Steelwank> Disable your firewall.
#578 [03:33] <skyboy> if it's your network, you're SOL
#579 [03:34] <|Kiichan|> bozo: disable firewall and try to connect to a server. if it connects, firewall is culprit and you just have to fix the setting
#580 [03:34] <bozo97> or
#581 [03:34] <|Kiichan|> if not... then its your router(s) and you better get whoever blocked the port to unblock it
#582 [03:34] <|Kiichan|> but thats up to whoever set it.
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#584 [03:36] <bozo97> i way play it yesterday though
#585 [03:36] <|Kiichan|> then someone blocked it today.
#586 [03:36] <bozo97> how
#587 [03:37] <|Kiichan|> ~.~
#588 [03:37] <|Kiichan|> magic.
#589 [03:37] * |Kiichan| waves hands around
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#590 [03:42] <|Kiichan|> heya cal
#591 [03:42] <Calinou> hi
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#594 [04:07] <undead> can i change my user name
#595 [04:07] <undead> helo
#596 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> No, you get the username that you purchased
#597 [04:08] <undead> oh
#598 [04:08] <undead> wha if i hot banned for no reason how do i get back
#599 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> You remain banned until you become unbanned
#600 [04:08] <Necrodoom> if you got banned from a server, join another server
#601 [04:09] <undead> how do i get unbaned
#602 [04:09] <DiskDaemon> undead: That depends on where you were banned
#603 [04:09] <undead> oh
#604 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> Some places unband after a certain amount of time, for example
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#606 [04:11] <undead> for exaple?
#607 [04:11] <Necrodoom> undead: what you got banned for?
#608 [04:11] <Snowl> Hey, is anyone having trouble logging into mc with a migrated account? My account works in account.mojang.com but not minecraft.net
#609 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> I wouldn't know any - I don't play on multplayer servers
#610 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> Snowl: You need to log in with your email address now
#611 [04:12] <undead> they say i grief but i was rebuilding my home!
#612 [04:12] <Snowl> i know that o.o i migrated with cobolts release
#613 [04:12] <Necrodoom> undead: server admins mostly prem ban people
#614 [04:12] <DiskDaemon> undead: You'll need to take that up with the server ops
#615 [04:12] <Necrodoom> undead: you have only 2 choices
#616 [04:12] <Necrodoom> undead: either join another server
#617 [04:12] <undead> or
#618 [04:12] <Necrodoom> undead: or, if exists, ban appeal on there forums
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#620 [04:13] <undead> oh
#621 [04:13] <undead> thanks
#622 [04:13] <Necrodoom> either way, its not an issue with minecraft itself
#623 [04:13] <undead> why aren't we allow to change username
#624 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> undead: Because then people would be jumping to a new username whenever they become banned, or in trouble
#625 [04:14] <undead> oh
#626 [04:14] <undead> -.-
#627 [04:14] <Steelwank> DiskDaemon
#628 [04:14] <Steelwank> You are not intelligent at all.
#629 [04:15] <undead> thanks
#630 [04:15] <Steelwank> It can always be like in Steam or Punkbuster
#631 [04:15] <undead> i take that as a comment
#632 [04:15] <Steelwank> You can take every nickname you want, but if you screw up, they can ban your PC IP and GTFO.
#633 [04:15] <Steelwank> Get yourself a new computer mate.
#634 [04:15] <Necrodoom> Steelwank: that would also mean breaking existing ban systems in minecraft
#635 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> I believe that Mojang are taking steps towards a new way of doing things. Details aren't out yet though
#636 [04:15] <Steelwank> They said that 3 years ago.
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#648 [05:40] <Person_> I have a problem, it's the fatal error occurred (4) permission denied:connect
#649 [05:40] <lemon-rev> did you modify mc ?
#650 [05:41] <Person_> Yes but it was stuffing up before that
#651 [05:41] <lemon-rev> what do you mean stuffing up ?
#652 [05:41] <Person_> Not working.
#653 [05:41] <lemon-rev> so you modified a none working game ?
#654 [05:42] <lemon-rev> we cant help you with your mod but we can help if mc is in its defult type set ie 1.2.5 and no mods
#655 [05:42] <Person_> Single player worked, but not multiplayer and the force update
#656 [05:43] <DiskDaemon> Person_: Please return things back to an unmodified state, and we can then help from there
#657 [05:43] <lemon-rev> person im gathering your trying to play muliplayer so whos server is it your trying to join ?
#658 [05:44] <Person_> It worked in single player
#659 [05:44] <lemon-rev> person i understand that, read my last question
#660 [05:45] <Person_> Okay, I have an un modded backup, now what
#661 [05:45] <lemon-rev> person whos server are you trying to play on if that is the situation
#662 [05:45] <lemon-rev> when does it crash ?
#663 [05:46] <Person_> It dosen't crash, but when I click Force update, it says fatal error (4) occurred: Permission denied:connect
#664 [05:47] <lemon-rev> person turn off your firewall and possibly your anitvirus and try again
#665 [05:47] <lemon-rev> DiskDaemon what you think could it be more than software no this one ?
#666 [05:48] <Person_> My dad would never do that, and minecraft is allowed in the firewall
#667 [05:48] <Snowl> wat
#668 [05:48] <DiskDaemon> Reboot in to safe mode + networking to be sure if it's software or not
#669 [05:48] <lemon-rev> k
#670 [05:48] <Person_> Okay I'll try, thanks for your help, got to go
#671 [05:48] <DiskDaemon> I'm currently somewhat distracted for the moment though
#672 [05:49] <lemon-rev> np DiskDaemon :)
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#674 [05:49] <lemon-rev> wb
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#676 [05:51] <blink348> hey
#677 [05:51] <blink348> anyone wanna help me out real quick
#678 [05:51] <lemon-rev> whats up
#679 [05:51] <lemon-rev> whats up
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#682 [05:51] <blink348> і - does this 'i' look normal?
#683 [05:51] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm laggy net >_>
#684 [05:51] <blink348> the first one
#685 [05:52] <blink348> or does it look weird to you
#686 [05:52] <Grim_Reaper> blink348 it looks.. smaller/thinner
#687 [05:52] <Grim_Reaper> i
#688 [05:52] <blink348> what type are you using?
#689 [05:52] <blink348> (font)
#690 [05:53] <blink348> Grim_Reaper ?
#691 [05:53] * Grim_Reaper checks
#691 [05:53] <blink348> k
#692 [05:53] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/z5eQd.png that one
#693 [05:53] <blink348> right...I need someone who isn't using that
#694 [05:54] <blink348> also get fixedsys 3 it's awesome
#695 [05:54] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#696 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> blink348: The thin one is this character http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dotted_I_(Cyrillic)
#697 [05:54] <Grim_Reaper> Hiya DiskDaemon
#698 [05:54] <blink348> I know
#699 [05:55] <blink348> it looks different in some typefaces though I guess
#700 [05:55] <DiskDaemon> indeed - do you know about the character map?
#701 [05:55] <blink348> been using it for years
#702 [05:56] <blink348> it's where I got it from
#703 [05:56] <DiskDaemon> Wouldn't that be useful to work out which fonts it can't be seen in? If that is what I understand is being enquired about
#704 [05:56] <blink348> maybe
#705 [05:57] <blink348> I could just switch it around in my client but I cba
#706 [05:57] <blink348> anyways thanks
#707 [05:57] * blink348 sleep
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#711 [06:11] <Steelwank> Helop
#712 [06:12] <Steelwank> I was banned from minecraft for typos by bildramer
#713 [06:14] <DiskDaemon> Steelwank: I'm in the #minecraft channel and everything has been logged
#714 [06:14] <Steelwank> DiskDaemon: So use the logs to ban bildramer pls
#715 [06:14] <DiskDaemon> I don't play those games
#716 [06:14] <GermanBlackbot> *grabs popcorn*
#717 [06:14] <Steelwank> Pls ban he
#718 [06:15] <Steelwank> Grim_Raper
#719 [06:16] <DiskDaemon> That's not going to happen. He's a channel op. It's up to other channel Ops to keep him in line
#720 [06:16] <Steelwank> bildramer is terrible.
#721 [06:16] <Steelwank> He kept up with the retarded topic.
#722 [06:16] <Steelwank> And insted he ban me for typo.
#723 [06:16] <TheNoodle> ....
#724 [06:16] <DiskDaemon> Steelwank: Don't complain to us about him
#725 [06:16] <TheNoodle> Discuss that with him, we don't care.
#726 [06:16] <Grim_Reaper> !kick Steelwank
#727 [06:17] <TheNoodle> I wonder if AuBot loves me
#728 [06:17] <TheNoodle> !kick Steelwank
#729 [06:17] <TheNoodle> nope :<
#730 [06:17] <Steelwank> Grim_Raper, what did you intend to do.
#731 [06:17] <Grim_Reaper> ;kick Steelwank bye
#732 [06:17] <Steelwank> You cannot kick me.
#733 [06:17] <TheNoodle> wugbot is gone too :D
#734 [06:17] <Grim_Reaper> Oh right wugbot isn't around
#735 [06:17] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#736 [06:17] <TheNoodle> Steelwank, we have two bots to kick you with, neither are around ^_^
#737 [06:17] <Steelwank> AuBot is terrible
#738 [06:17] <Grim_Reaper> Kealper
#739 [06:17] <Steelwank> Good thing the bots aren't around.
#740 [06:17] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine ;-;
#741 [06:17] <Steelwank> Because all voiced people over here are abusive pieces of shit.
#742 [06:17] <DiskDaemon> Steelwank: However, the Ops here may kick people at their whim
#743 [06:18] <TheNoodle> You sure that's a good thing Steelwank?
#744 [06:18] <Steelwank> DiskDaemon, I no.
#745 [06:18] <Grim_Reaper> Steelwank you're an awful troll
#746 [06:18] <Steelwank> GRim_Raper: But I still like to rub your sexy face with vaseline.
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#748 [06:26] <MrLertery> Dobrý den zapoměl jsem heslo od svho emailu jak ho můžu dosat zpět?
#749 [06:27] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, no. Nobody that I know of speaks Czech here.
#750 [06:28] <MrLertery> Oh...
#751 [06:29] <DiskDaemon> MrLertery: Do you ... apparantly not
#752 [06:30] <DiskDaemon> I wonder how long it'll take him to figure out how I recognised it as czech...
#753 [06:30] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#756 [06:42] <Daniel> email support
#757 [06:43] <GermanBlackbot> DiskDaemon: It is entirely possible to identify a language without actually be able to speak it.
#758 [06:44] <TheNoodle> especially given his hostmask
#759 [06:45] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that's what I was basing it on :) Plan B would've been translate.google.com
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#761 [06:47] <Potatoes> hi
#762 [06:48] <Andrio> Hello
#763 [06:49] <Potatoes> hm
#764 [06:49] <Potatoes> can I ask here about modding minecraft?
#765 [06:52] <DiskDaemon> Potatoes: We don't support modding here, but we might be able to answer some questions
#766 [06:52] <Potatoes> not really a question
#767 [06:52] <Potatoes> im just asking for someone to teach me to mod minecraft's code
#768 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> A demand?
#769 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, we don't do that here, no.
#770 [06:53] <Potatoes> Nobody wants :'(
#771 [06:53] <Potatoes> I've asked lots of pepoles
#772 [06:53] <Potatoes> pepole*
#773 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> Potatoes: If you did go to a channel about modding, they would insist that you learn Java first on a 6 to 12 month course
#774 [06:54] <Potatoes> I know java, i just need to mod minecraft.
#775 [06:54] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#776 [06:54] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#777 [06:54] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#778 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> Hmm, not much on actually modding there.
#779 [06:55] <Potatoes> VoxelHead im not asking about help with mods, im asking for help with modding
#780 [06:55] <Potatoes> minecraft has a ton of classes, its confusing
#781 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> Potatoes: This may be a good place to start with http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/140-mod-development/
#782 [06:56] <Potatoes> Thanks DiskDaemon
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#793 [07:15] <GreyVulpine> Sorry Disk, just got home from work.
#794 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> It's fine, he left of his own accord dues to a lack of feeding :)
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#796 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> It's a shame that there's nobody around at times with the ability to perform the occasional judicious kick where needed
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#799 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> O.o ! What timing :)
#800 [07:19] <GreyVulpine> Heh
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#805 [07:30] <HardAsBedrock> Help!!!
#806 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> Solution!!!
#807 [07:30] <HardAsBedrock> Helllllllppppppp
#808 [07:31] <DiskDaemon> Please calm down
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#810 [07:31] <DiskDaemon> ?? ask
#811 [07:31] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#812 [07:31] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#813 [07:32] <HardAsBedrock> I was banned
#814 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> From?
#815 [07:32] <HardAsBedrock> From irc, another channel
#816 [07:32] <DiskDaemon> HardAsBedrock: We can't help you.
#817 [07:32] <GreyVulpine> Then there's nothing we can do about it
#818 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> HardAsBedrock: Hang on, was that when you were trying to change your nickname?
#819 [07:33] <HardAsBedrock> No
#820 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> HardAsBedrock: Which channel, and what caused it?
#821 [07:35] <HardAsBedrock> I was banned for something
#822 [07:35] <DiskDaemon> HardAsBedrock: Let me repeat. Which channel, and what caused it?
#823 [07:35] <HardAsBedrock> I was On keystone IRC
#824 [07:36] <DiskDaemon> HardAsBedrock: We can't do anything about that.
#825 [07:36] <HardAsBedrock> …
#826 [07:36] <DiskDaemon> Is there anything else that we can help you with?
#827 [07:36] <HardAsBedrock> You suck
#828 [07:36] <DiskDaemon> We know our limits.
#829 [07:37] <HardAsBedrock> I bet you guys are just computers
#830 [07:37] <GreyVulpine> !k HardAsBedrock
#831 [07:37] * GreyBot kicked HardAsBedrock from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ardAsBedrock :<Kicks:933>)
#832 [07:37] * GreyVulpine coughs
#832 [07:37] <DiskDaemon> That's one almighty cough there :)
#833 [07:37] * GreyVulpine winks
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#834 [07:38] <HardAsBedrock> Wow, I got kicked!
#835 [07:38] <GreyVulpine> Indeed you did
#836 [07:38] <HardAsBedrock> Amaaaaaazing
#837 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> Please try to not attract the attention of the ops here. They get kinda grumpy
#838 [07:39] <HardAsBedrock> You already are stupid
#839 [07:39] <DiskDaemon> *sigh*
#840 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> And we're here to take your verbal abuse.. why?
#841 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> There's the door. Don't let it hit you on the way out. Thanks.
#842 [07:39] <HardAsBedrock> Annoying little computers
#843 [07:39] <GreyVulpine> !kb HardAsBedrock
#844 [07:39] * GreyBot kicked HardAsBedrock from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ardAsBedrock :<Kicks:934>)
#845 [07:41] <DiskDaemon> Popcorn munchers - he's joined #minecraft now
#846 [07:43] <GreyVulpine> Too bad, nothing he says will appear.
#847 [07:43] <DiskDaemon> Oh yes, he needs to register his account
#848 [07:44] <Calinou> hold on, adding that to "funniest quotes"
#849 [07:46] <Calinou> done
#850 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> [07:41.39am] <HardAsBedrock> How can I talk?
#851 [07:46] <GreyVulpine> Through PM
#852 [07:47] <Calinou> /notice FTW
#853 [07:48] <Calinou> oh and /ctcp too.
#854 [07:48] <GermanBlackbot> Don't you get told that you have to register or something like that?
#855 [07:48] <Rikairchy> i have a simple script to deal with those people >.>
#856 [07:48] <GreyVulpine> If they bothered to read the /topic, they woul dknow
#857 [07:49] <GermanBlackbot> I got that figured out in 2 minutes...I love trolls too lazy to rtfm...
#858 [07:50] <Rikairchy> or when you tell them that, they go "how do i rtfm??"
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#860 [07:54] <ArmsReunite> hi, are you selling stalls for minecon 2012?
#861 [07:55] <ArmsReunite> hi
#862 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> ArmsReunite: No - the location isn't even publicly known het
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#869 [08:51] <DiskDaemon> Todays dilbert is quite relevant today http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-07-19/
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#872 [09:19] <Nick> my minecraft freezes when updating
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#874 [09:20] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. You can temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#875 [09:22] <Guest32059> It still freezes
#876 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> Does it give any kind of error message?
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#878 [09:22] <Nick> Minecraft keeps freezing when updating
#879 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> Does it give any kind of error message?
#880 [09:23] <Guest78532> no just that it can't update
#881 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> The reason why it cannot update is that Minecraft's ability to download what it needs is being blocked.
#882 [09:24] <Guest78532> i disabled the antivirus system
#883 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> Is there anything else on your machine that would block such things?
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#885 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> Security software of any kind?
#886 [09:25] <Guest78532> maybe the firewall
#887 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps. I wouldn't think so though because that tends to give other symptoms if that's the case
#888 [09:26] <Guest78532> no still frezzes
#889 [09:27] <DiskDaemon> If anyone else in here has some idea, please feel free to chip in
#890 [09:28] <Guest78532> can you take over my pc and try
#891 [09:28] <DiskDaemon> No, not I sorry
#892 [09:29] <Guest78532> what can block the update
#893 [09:30] <DiskDaemon> Antivirus is the only one that I know of. That successfully resolves the update issue virtually all the time
#894 [09:32] <Guest78532> it says : Fatal error occured (4): Connection reset
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#896 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> The following thread delves in to the fatal error 4 http://minecraftirc.net/thread-35.html
#897 [09:33] <Guest78532> i uninstalled my antivirus and it worked
#898 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
#899 [09:33] <DiskDaemon> Was that AVG?
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#901 [09:34] <Guest78532> yes
#902 [09:34] <DiskDaemon> Paid, Trial or Free?
#903 [09:34] <Guest78532> free
#904 [09:34] <DiskDaemon> Okay, there are instructions to temporarily disable it too. But I'm glad that you're sorted out. Put it back after updating now.
#905 [09:34] <Guest78532> ok thanks
#906 [09:35] <Builder> anyone avaiable thats not busy
#907 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> I'm nearly in bed, but what's up?
#908 [09:35] <Builder> My main smp server will not run for anyone but the test server works fine
#909 [09:35] <Builder> Ive not messed with nothing it just randomly shut down
#910 [09:36] <DiskDaemon> The computer server itself randomly shut down?
#911 [09:36] <Builder> yea i cant load my smp map to play
#912 [09:36] <DiskDaemon> That sounds like a hardware issue that techs need to take a look at
#913 [09:36] <Builder> and when i looked at my magic laucher for 1.2.5 it said no mod loader
#914 [09:37] <DiskDaemon> Is this a modded server?
#915 [09:37] <Builder> No just the client
#916 [09:37] <Builder> the server says cant reach server
#917 [09:37] <DiskDaemon> I'm afraid that we can't help with modded ones.
#918 [09:37] <Builder> the 127 is green bar
#919 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> Builder: Did you hear what I said about not being able to help with modded one?
#920 [09:38] <Builder> yea
#921 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#922 [09:38] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#923 [09:38] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#924 [09:38] <DiskDaemon> Good night. I'm off to bed. All the best
#925 [09:38] <Builder> I will just switch things around an load my smp on the actual client
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#927 [09:40] <justin7674> Hello?
#928 [09:41] <justin7674> IS anyone online?
#929 [09:42] <Andrio> Hi justin7674
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#934 [10:15] <jamest> can someone help me ??
#935 [10:16] <jamest> there is a massive problem with the game that i need help with asap
#936 [10:16] <jamest> ??
#937 [10:18] <jamest> hello
#938 [10:18] <jamest> chris ??
#939 [10:18] <Chris> o.o
#940 [10:18] <jamest> can you help me ??
#941 [10:18] <Chris> nope, you haven't asked a question
#942 [10:19] <jamest> when i start the game minecraft it wont start it just closes and i get an error report ??
#943 [10:19] <jamest> what will i do
#944 [10:19] <Chris> can you please pastebin the error report?
#945 [10:19] <Chris> ?? pastebin
#946 [10:19] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#947 [10:20] <jamest> what ?? im not that good with computers !!
#948 [10:20] <Chris> it's a command for VoxelHead, it just makes VoxelHead say the message it did
#949 [10:21] <Chris> ??>
#950 [10:22] <jamest> yeah but when can i get it fixed and play the game i just bought it !!
#951 [10:23] <Chris> when you pastebin the error
#952 [10:23] <Chris> ?? pastebin
#953 [10:23] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#954 [10:24] <jamest> i paster the error i got now what ??
#955 [10:24] <Chris> "and give us the URL the site takes you to"
#956 [10:24] <jamest> http://pastebin.com/Y8TfCUh2
#957 [10:25] <jamest> is that it ??
#958 [10:25] <Chris> yes, now wait a few minutes
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#960 [10:26] <jamest> whats going on can i fix it ??
#961 [10:27] <Chris> well I have no idea because I don't actually do much minecraft tech support, but if you wait around for a bit, someone'll be around to answer you
#962 [10:27] <jamest> like how long i need to get it fixed like really soon ??
#963 [10:28] <Chris> how long is a piece of string? be patient.
#964 [10:28] <Chris> ?? patience
#965 [10:28] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#966 [10:28] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#967 [10:29] <jamest> sorry its just i payed money and its not working
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#969 [10:29] <Chris> yeah, I understand, but you'll have to wait.
#970 [10:30] <jamest> do you think they will be able fix it ??
#971 [10:30] <Chris> probably, some people in this channel are really good at this
#972 [10:30] <Chris> I personally don't do tech support for Minecraft much, I just help solve little things every now and again
#973 [10:31] <jamest> ok :) what happpens if they cant fix it though ?
#974 [10:31] <Chris> dunno, haven't seen them not fix something
#975 [10:32] <jamest> ok hopefully it will !!
#976 [10:32] <Jaiimc> ?
#977 [10:32] <jamest> can you fix my problem
#978 [10:33] <Chris> ??< index
#979 [10:34] <jamest> is jaiimc another guy that can help me ??
#980 [10:34] <Chris> ??< irc
#981 [10:34] <jamest> can you get a refund on minecraft
#982 [10:35] <clarjon1> Hm.
#983 [10:35] <Chris> ??< attitude
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#985 [10:35] <jamest> i wasnt even suppose to buy it and now its not working :(
#986 [10:35] <Alex_> i dont have a hunger bar in minecraft
#987 [10:35] <Jaiimc> Did you download the latest java, jamest?
#988 [10:35] <Chris> Jaiimc, yes
#989 [10:35] <Iaccidentally> Alex_, get out of creative mode
#990 [10:35] <Chris> http://pastebin.com/Y8TfCUh2
#991 [10:35] <clarjon1> jamest: What is your graphics card?
#992 [10:36] <Alex_> i did im in survival'
#993 [10:36] <Jaiimc> Chris: It's usually a borked java problem.
#994 [10:36] <jamest> clasjon1 my what ??
#995 [10:36] <clarjon1> Jaiimc: It's crashing when trying to render openGL frames
#996 [10:36] <Chris> java 7u5 is the latest though Jaiimc :)
#997 [10:36] <clarjon1> oh
#998 [10:37] <clarjon1> Chris: That version has issues.
#999 [10:37] <Chris> ah okay
#1000 [10:37] <Jaiimc> Ta daaaaaa
#1001 [10:37] <Alex_> i don't have a hunger bar in survival mode
#1002 [10:37] <clarjon1> Alex_: Which version of minecraft do you have.
#1003 [10:37] <Alex_> 1.2.5
#1004 [10:37] * Jaiimc goes back to not being helpful
#1004 [10:37] <clarjon1> Alex_: Can you create a new world real quick for me?
#1005 [10:37] <Alex_> hold on
#1006 [10:37] <jamest> chris can it be fixed??
#1007 [10:37] * Chris leaves it to clarjon1
#1007 [10:38] <Chris> jamest, for the third time, I don't know
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#1009 [10:38] <jamest> sorry taught you where talking to clarjon1 about it
#1010 [10:38] * Grim_Reaper hugs Chris
#1010 [10:38] <Alex_> still the same
#1011 [10:38] <clarjon1> Alex_: ok, which game mode are you in? Normal, peaceful, etc
#1012 [10:39] <clarjon1> *difficulty
#1013 [10:39] <Alex_> normal
#1014 [10:39] <clarjon1> Hmm
#1015 [10:39] <clarjon1> any texture packs?
#1016 [10:39] <Alex_> dokucraft
#1017 [10:40] <clarjon1> Try using the default texture pack, see if the bar comes back?
#1018 [10:40] <Alex_> yeah it came back
#1019 [10:40] <clarjon1> ok
#1020 [10:40] <Alex_> but will it come in dokucraft
#1021 [10:40] <clarjon1> the copy of the texture pack you have doesn't have correct hunger bar info
#1022 [10:40] <clarjon1> try redownloading a fresh copy of the dokucraft texture pack :)
#1023 [10:42] <jamest> clarjon1 can you fix my problem ??
#1024 [10:45] <jamest> my game crashes the second i try to open just bought it anyone know whats happening there's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/Y8TfCUh2
#1025 [10:48] <jamest> ?
#1026 [10:49] <jamest> version 1.2.5
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#1028 [10:51] <jamest> SgtTraveler can you help
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#1041 [11:01] * Chris slaps tyteen4a03 around a bit
#1041 [11:02] <Necrodoom> nice flood
#1042 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> Chris: I blame Esper's flood limit
#1043 [11:08] <Chris> tyteen4a03, you need to control your flow
#1044 [11:08] <Chris> slow it down a little
#1045 [11:08] <Chris> then the flood limit shan't kill you
#1046 [11:08] <tyteen4a03> Chris: tell mIRC to add a perform delay then it won't
#1047 [11:09] <Chris> don't use mirc and there won't be a problem >:)
#1048 [11:09] <tyteen4a03> too lazy to switch :D
#1049 [11:09] <Chris> hexchat + bouncer = <3
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#1051 [11:14] <jamest> anyone out there to help me ???
#1052 [11:14] <tyteen4a03> jamest: what's the question?
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#1057 [11:26] <jamest> chris nobody got back to me its been 2 and a half hours
#1058 [11:26] <gnaws> is there a way to get unbanned?
#1059 [11:27] <gnaws> my 10 y.o daughter was banned for typing "zzzzz"
#1060 [11:27] <Necrodoom> gnaws: unbanned from?
#1061 [11:28] <gnaws> not sure. some server
#1062 [11:28] <gnaws> do they all have names?
#1063 [11:28] <gnaws> I have the IP address
#1064 [11:28] <Necrodoom> gnaws: you have 2 options
#1065 [11:28] <Necrodoom> gnaws: 1. join another server
#1066 [11:28] <gnaws> k
#1067 [11:29] <Necrodoom> gnaws: 2. if exists, make a ban appeal on server forums
#1068 [11:29] <gnaws> to whom do we address the appeal?
#1069 [11:29] <Necrodoom> anyway, this is the decision of the server admin, not of mojang
#1070 [11:29] <gnaws> the mod?
#1071 [11:29] <gnaws> I see
#1072 [11:29] <gnaws> thanks for the input
#1073 [11:30] <Necrodoom> minecraft servers are like FPS game rooms
#1074 [11:30] <clarjon1> gnaws: Think of it like restaurants that have been given some startup money by City Hall
#1075 [11:30] <clarjon1> gnaws: If a family member gets banned from a restaurant, you need to contact the restaurant owner, not City Hall, to get the issue resolved.
#1076 [11:30] <gnaws> makes perfect sense
#1077 [11:30] <gnaws> glad I asked here
#1078 [11:31] <clarjon1> Best of luck!
#1079 [11:31] <gnaws> t.y.
#1080 [11:31] <jamest> gnaws can you help me out
#1081 [11:31] <jamest> ?
#1082 [11:31] <gnaws> probably not, but shoot
#1083 [11:31] <jamest> clarjon1 please help
#1084 [11:32] <jamest> i need help with a problem are you like a support person ?
#1085 [11:32] <clarjon1> jamest: I can't help until you provide the information I asked for.
#1086 [11:32] <gnaws> I'm not. sorry. =[
#1087 [11:32] <clarjon1> jamest: the graphics card installed.
#1088 [11:32] <jamest> how to you get the graphics card ??
#1089 [11:34] <jamest> when i load it up it just goes black and dies
#1090 [11:34] <clarjon1> hang on.
#1091 [11:35] <clarjon1> jamest: Follow these instructions:
#1092 [11:35] <clarjon1> ??> jamest win/dxdiag
#1093 [11:35] <VoxelHead> jamest: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1094 [11:35] <VoxelHead> jamest: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1096 [11:37] <jamest> http://pastebin.com/Y8TfCUh2
#1097 [11:38] <jamest> thats the link i got
#1098 [11:39] <clarjon1> no
#1099 [11:39] <skyboy> have you posted a dxdiag yet?
#1100 [11:39] <clarjon1> you didn't follow the instructions.
#1101 [11:40] <clarjon1> skyboy: I gave him instructions to do that, so he pasted his minecraft error again
#1102 [11:40] <clarjon1> jamest: Follow these instructions EXACTLY.
#1103 [11:40] <clarjon1> ??> jamest win/dxdiag
#1104 [11:40] <VoxelHead> jamest: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1105 [11:40] <VoxelHead> jamest: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1106 [11:44] <jamest> yer just going to get mad at me im really new to computers so im really sorry about this i type win/dxdiag where exactly ?? sorry about this honestly
#1107 [11:44] <skyboy> ??> jamest win/key
#1108 [11:44] <VoxelHead> jamest: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1109 [11:47] <jamest> yeah i presed win+r and a run thing came up
#1110 [11:48] <skyboy> ??> jamest win/dxdiag
#1111 [11:48] <skyboy> .
#1112 [11:48] <skyboy> *kicks the bot*
#1113 [11:49] <jamest> im not a bot im new to computers!!
#1114 [11:49] <skyboy> voxelhead is a bot
#1115 [11:49] <skyboy> and he's stopped responding
#1116 [11:49] <skyboy> follow the previous win/dxdiag instructions above
#1117 [11:50] <Rikairchy> ??
#1118 [11:50] <Rikairchy> D:
#1119 [11:50] <Rikairchy> you broke it
#1120 [11:50] <jamest> i pressed win+r as i was told
#1121 [11:51] <Rikairchy> ??> Rikairchy index
#1122 [11:51] <skyboy> there are more instructions than that, jamest
#1123 [11:51] <skyboy> if you can't follow them, just leave now
#1124 [11:52] <Rikairchy> skyboy seems grouchy
#1125 [11:52] <skyboy> yeah, esper is going to kick vox in a minute
#1126 [11:52] <Rikairchy> D: pingout?
#1127 [11:52] <skyboy> aye
#1128 [11:52] <Rikairchy> D:
#1129 [11:52] <skyboy> Rikairchy: also, i'm tired; i just woke up, and he's being exceptionally dense
#1130 [11:53] <Rikairchy> some people are just noobs, man
#1131 [11:53] <skyboy> i need more caffeine.
#1132 [11:53] <Rikairchy> they can't help it
#1133 [11:53] <Rikairchy> go stretch, have some coffee, and relax
#1134 [11:53] <Rikairchy> jamest
#1135 [11:53] <skyboy> one of the options for the bot is dont/pebcak
#1136 [11:53] <Rikairchy> hahahahaha
#1137 [11:53] <Rikairchy> really?
#1138 [11:53] <skyboy> the instructions on win/dxdiag are as simple as we can make them
#1139 [11:54] <jamest> http://pastebin.com/Cwbvhk4w
#1140 [11:54] <jamest> there
#1141 [11:54] <Rikairchy> hi eddie
#1142 [11:54] <Rikairchy> oh wow
#1143 [11:54] <Rikairchy> does minecraft actually run on this?
#1144 [11:54] <Rikairchy> smoothly?
#1145 [11:54] <jamest> no it wont run on my computer i need help getting it to run
#1146 [11:55] <skyboy> it should run at at least 15 FPS, Rikairchy
#1147 [11:55] <Rikairchy> what errors are you getting jamest?
#1148 [11:55] <skyboy> ??> jamest gpu/amd
#1149 [11:55] <Rikairchy> black screen? openGL errors?
#1150 [11:55] <Rikairchy> skyboy
#1151 [11:55] <skyboy> oh, he pinged out already
#1152 [11:55] <Rikairchy> it pinged out
#1153 [11:55] <Rikairchy> remember?
#1154 [11:55] <skyboy> i didn't get the quit message
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#1156 [11:55] <skyboy> i have to go dig up his index now
#1157 [11:55] <Rikairchy> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx
#1158 [11:55] <Rikairchy> go to that page
#1159 [11:55] <jamest> what will i do
#1160 [11:56] <Rikairchy> and download the first option
#1161 [11:56] <Rikairchy> you're going to update your graphics drivers
#1162 [11:56] <skyboy> You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1163 [11:56] <Rikairchy> skyboy i linked him already
#1164 [11:56] <skyboy> ?? bot
#1165 [11:56] <Rikairchy> to the page that gives him his drivers for his card
#1166 [11:56] <Rikairchy> ??> Rikairchy index
#1167 [11:57] <skyboy> it's ??< index
#1168 [11:57] <Rikairchy> D:
#1169 [11:57] <Rikairchy> ??< index
#1170 [11:57] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1171 [11:57] <jamest> im downloading it what next
#1172 [11:57] <VoxelHead> Rikairchy: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1173 [11:57] <skyboy> he didn't respond to the bot query yet
#1174 [11:57] <skyboy> oh
#1175 [11:57] <skyboy> hah.
#1176 [11:57] <Rikairchy> wow he's laggy
#1177 [11:57] <Rikairchy> jamest
#1178 [11:57] <Rikairchy> once its downloaded, install it
#1179 [11:57] <jamest> yes
#1180 [11:57] <skyboy> nah, he had to create the index table apparently
#1181 [11:58] <Rikairchy> ohh
#1182 [11:58] <jamest> will it work then
#1183 [11:58] <skyboy> we will find out
#1184 [11:58] <Rikairchy> we'll find out
#1185 [11:58] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1186 [11:58] <jamest> 3mins remaining
#1187 [11:58] <skyboy> hey, i do type at around 90 WPM :P
#1188 [11:58] <Rikairchy> you should also update to windows 7
#1189 [11:58] <skyboy> no
#1190 [11:58] <Rikairchy> Vista is horrid in terms of support
#1191 [11:58] <Rikairchy> and resource management
#1192 [11:59] <skyboy> vista is garbage but windows7 costs a couple hundred dollars
#1193 [11:59] <skyboy> it would be a better investment just to buy a new computer entirely
#1194 [11:59] <Rikairchy> i have a valid serial
#1195 [11:59] <Rikairchy> true
#1196 [11:59] <Rikairchy> is the athlonx x2 even a true dual core?
#1197 [11:59] <Rikairchy> or just threaded
#1198 [11:59] <jamest> im planning in awhile to buy a new computer
#1199 [11:59] <skyboy> dual core
#1200 [11:59] <skyboy> intel does hyper threading, AMD does not
#1201 [12:00] <Rikairchy> AMD does something similar
#1202 [12:00] <jamest> can ye tell me how bad my computer is ??
#1203 [12:00] <skyboy> i don't believe so, intel has a patent on it
#1204 [12:00] <skyboy> you have half the recommended display RAM for minecraft, hamest
#1205 [12:00] <Rikairchy> jamest did you install it?
#1206 [12:00] <skyboy> you have 2GB of regular RAM, but 1 GB is used by the OS + open programs
#1207 [12:01] <skyboy> minecraft usually uses 1.5 GB by itself
#1208 [12:01] <jamest> its almost done downloading
#1209 [12:01] <Rikairchy> skyboy
#1210 [12:01] <Rikairchy> amd does something i saw referred to as truecore
#1211 [12:01] <Rikairchy> or something
#1212 [12:01] <Rikairchy> essentially vCores rather than threading
#1213 [12:01] <skyboy> never heard of it
#1214 [12:02] <skyboy> also, threading is done by the OS, hyperthreading is done by the CPU
#1215 [12:02] <clarjon1> Ooof.
#1216 [12:02] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1217 [12:02] <Rikairchy> close enough
#1218 [12:02] <Rikairchy> clarjon1!
#1219 [12:02] <clarjon1> he's running on a laptop
#1220 [12:03] <Rikairchy> he's trying to
#1221 [12:03] <Rikairchy> its not looking good
#1222 [12:03] <skyboy> i didn't even look for that
#1223 [12:03] <skyboy> ??< index
#1224 [12:03] <jamest> i downloaded it now what
#1225 [12:03] <Rikairchy> ?? index
#1226 [12:03] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#1227 [12:03] <clarjon1> jamest: Install it.
#1228 [12:03] <Rikairchy> jamest: for the third time
#1229 [12:03] <skyboy> install it
#1230 [12:03] <Rikairchy> install it.
#1231 [12:03] <skyboy> Rikairchy: ??< PMs you
#1232 [12:04] <clarjon1> jamest: It won't do anything unless you install it.
#1233 [12:04] <Rikairchy> >.>
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#1235 [12:04] <Rikairchy> not so clarjon1
#1236 [12:04] <Rikairchy> it can sit there and look pretty
#1237 [12:04] <jamest> installed !
#1238 [12:04] <Rikairchy> did it prompt you for a restart?
#1239 [12:04] <jamest> it saying express or custom
#1240 [12:04] <Rikairchy> thats not installed.
#1241 [12:05] <Rikairchy> just click express
#1242 [12:05] <Rikairchy> and then next through everything
#1243 [12:05] <cm> i restarted my computer when my miecraft froze and now my worlds gone
#1244 [12:05] <jamest> it said setup terminated
#1245 [12:06] <Rikairchy> then you did it wrong
#1246 [12:06] <skyboy> you clicked cancel, jamest
#1247 [12:06] <cm> can u get it bk
#1248 [12:06] <Rikairchy> ??> jamest teamviewer
#1249 [12:06] <skyboy> ??> jamest dont/pebcak
#1250 [12:06] <VoxelHead> jamest: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1251 [12:06] <VoxelHead> jamest: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1252 [12:06] <VoxelHead> jamest: (dont/pebcak) If you can't understand our (generally) basic instructions, please don't even bother wasting our time if you won't listen. Fixing problems requires some amount of self-help ability, to say nothing of literacy and the ability to follow directions..
#1253 [12:06] <VoxelHead> jamest: (dont/pebcak) Keep in mind we are all volunteers - if you need more help, hire a professional.
#1254 [12:06] <Rikairchy> jamest if you get teamviewer, i can do it for you
#1255 [12:07] <cm> can u get my world bk
#1256 [12:07] <jamest> yer not going to fuck up my computer are ye ??
#1257 [12:07] * AuBot kicked jamest from #minecrafthelp (Reason: amest :Please keep it civil.)
#1258 [12:07] <Rikairchy> cm
#1259 [12:07] <Rikairchy> maybe if you speak proper english
#1260 [12:07] <Moose^2> ye are ye?!
#1261 [12:07] <Moose^2> :3
#1262 [12:07] <Boreeas> ye ye ye
#1263 [12:07] <NinjaKirby> yer are yer!
#1264 [12:07] <Rikairchy> i tend to ignore those who do not even spell basic words correctly >.>
#1265 [12:07] <Moose^2> YEEEE!
#1266 [12:07] <skyboy> ??> cm dont/tweet
#1267 [12:07] <VoxelHead> cm: (dont/tweet) IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you', 'one', and 'are', and not 'u', '1', and 'r'.
#1268 [12:08] <Moose^2> u no wat rik
#1269 [12:08] <Rikairchy> oh jeez.
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#1271 [12:08] <skyboy> ??>> Moose^2 dont/tweet
#1272 [12:08] <todd546> Hi
#1273 [12:08] <Rikairchy> you used two >
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#1275 [12:08] <Moose^2> skyboy: I'm teasing him.
#1276 [12:08] <todd546> Can Someone Help Me
#1277 [12:08] <Rikairchy> on that >.>
#1278 [12:08] <Rikairchy> on that >.>
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#1280 [12:08] <Rikairchy> ?? todd546 ask
#1281 [12:08] <Rikairchy> you.
#1282 [12:08] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1283 [12:08] <jamest> what do ye want me to get
#1284 [12:08] <skyboy> ??> todd546 ask
#1285 [12:09] <VoxelHead> todd546: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
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#1287 [12:09] <Rikairchy> ??> jamest teamviewer
#1288 [12:09] <VoxelHead> todd546: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1289 [12:09] <VoxelHead> jamest: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#1290 [12:09] <VoxelHead> jamest: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#1291 [12:09] <jamest> will ye mess up my computer ???
#1292 [12:09] <NinjaKirby> lol, this is just a balls up of Bot Commands, to people who aren't even necessarily present. Well played.
#1293 [12:09] <Rikairchy> no
#1294 [12:10] <jamest> will it take long ??
#1295 [12:10] <Rikairchy> ....
#1296 [12:10] <skyboy> ??>> NinjaKirby sep
#1297 [12:10] <Boreeas> As long as necessary
#1298 [12:10] <Rikairchy> it'll take a lot LESS longer
#1299 [12:10] <jamest> install or run ??
#1300 [12:10] <Rikairchy> run
#1301 [12:10] <NinjaKirby> Ah, thanks Voxelhead, I have now reached the next stage of enlightment with that Knowledge. I Thank Thee.
#1302 [12:11] <skyboy> ??>> NinjaKirby bot
#1303 [12:11] <jamest> now what
#1304 [12:11] <NinjaKirby> Perhaps I can judiciously renumerate thee. I am also aware of what "it" is.
#1305 [12:11] <Rikairchy> it should give you a series of numbers
#1306 [12:11] <Rikairchy> PM them to me
#1307 [12:12] <skyboy> ??> jamest pm
#1308 [12:12] <VoxelHead> jamest: (pm) Private messages, or PM's, are sent from one person to another directly, and prevent the main chat from getting clogged.
#1309 [12:12] <VoxelHead> jamest: (pm) PM's appear, in Mibbit, in tabs on the upper left, labelled by the nickname of the sender.
#1310 [12:12] <jamest> how to pm
#1311 [12:12] <Rikairchy> ...
#1312 [12:12] <skyboy> i honestly expected the pm factoid to include directions
#1313 [12:12] <Rikairchy> /msg Rikairchy <numbers>
#1314 [12:12] <Rikairchy> type it like that
#1315 [12:13] * skyboy waits for Rikairchy to get angled brackets
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#1316 [12:14] <jamest> sent
#1317 [12:15] <Rikairchy> mind responding a bit faster?
#1318 [12:15] <Rikairchy> I'm not too terribly interested in wasting more of my lunch on this.
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#1320 [12:15] <jamest> i sent it already
#1321 [12:15] <Rikairchy> i need the pass.
#1322 [12:15] <Rikairchy> as i mentioned in the PM
#1323 [12:16] <jamest> sentthe pass
#1324 [12:16] <Rikairchy> finally
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#1326 [12:16] <cm1> hi
#1327 [12:17] <cm1> can u help me get my wworld bk
#1328 [12:18] <cm1> i had to restart my computer cause my computer froze and when i got bk on my world had didapeered
#1329 [12:23] <cm1> plz
#1330 [12:24] <skyboy> ??> cm1 save/null
#1331 [12:25] <VoxelHead> cm1: (save/null) If your computer unexpectedly died, and your Minecraft world suddenly no longer works, try loading it (the world) in MCEdit, and resaving the world. This is known to sometimes fix the problem.
#1332 [12:25] <VoxelHead> cm1: (save/null) MCEdit can be found at http://is.gd/rnBfkU-
#1333 [12:25] <skyboy> ??> cm1 save/recovery
#1334 [12:25] <VoxelHead> cm1: (save/recovery) A tool to possibly recover corrupted worlds can be found at http://www.mcsaver.net
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#1336 [12:31] <Rikairchy> oh god
#1337 [12:31] <Rikairchy> this guys computer
#1338 [12:31] <Rikairchy> is so
#1339 [12:31] * Rikairchy cry
#1339 [12:31] <Eddie> o.o
#1340 [12:35] <jamest> ??
#1341 [12:37] <jamest> what can i do
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#1345 [12:39] <jamest> Rikairchy ?
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#1347 [12:42] <jamest> steve are you able work minecraft
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#1350 [12:47] <NinjaKirby> Minecraft
#1351 [12:47] <jamest> voxelhead
#1352 [12:47] <skyboy> ??> jamest bot
#1353 [12:47] <VoxelHead> jamest: (bot) I just type quickly.
#1354 [12:47] <jamest> skyboy ??
#1355 [12:48] <jamest> voxrlhead are you a bot or not
#1356 [12:48] <Necrodoom> he is a bot
#1357 [12:48] <Necrodoom> lol
#1358 [12:48] <NinjaKirby> Don't be fooled though, so is Necrodoom.
#1359 [12:49] <jamest> no1 can seem to help me with my problem skyboy can u ??
#1360 [12:49] * Necrodoom attempts to pharse NinjaKirby, fails
#1360 [12:49] <NinjaKirby> :P
#1361 [12:49] <NinjaKirby> Richarchy have no joy with the Teamviewer thing?
#1362 [12:50] <NinjaKirby> Oops, shouldn't have guessed the Name spelling
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#1366 [13:04] <llamas> how do i get the file for minecraft when i download it?
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#1368 [13:13] <MagisterQuis> Question about quirky game bahavior. Is this the right channel?
#1369 [13:14] <NinjaKirby> Quite likely, fire away Magister!
#1370 [13:14] <MagisterQuis> Whee!
#1371 [13:15] <MagisterQuis> So, built what was intended to be a mob farm pretty high up.
#1372 [13:15] <MagisterQuis> Collection at y=199, spawning above that.
#1373 [13:15] <MagisterQuis> If I put a roof on it, mobs don't spawn.
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#1375 [13:15] <MagisterQuis> Also, sunlight or moonlight comes through the roof and floor and walls.
#1376 [13:15] <MagisterQuis> Mostly cobblestone.
#1377 [13:16] <MagisterQuis> No roof, mobs spawn fine at niht.
#1378 [13:16] <MagisterQuis> night
#1379 [13:16] <MagisterQuis> Is there a known bug concerning light at high altitudes?
#1380 [13:16] <MagisterQuis> Mobs are meant to spawn at y=229
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#1382 [13:19] <NinjaKirby> Is that the same lighting bug that occurs in concealed caverns/ravines?
#1383 [13:19] <MagisterQuis> Never ran into it.
#1384 [13:19] <NinjaKirby> Sometimes night/day time just starts pouring through in some area's.
#1385 [13:19] <MagisterQuis> Yeah
#1386 [13:19] <MagisterQuis> That.
#1387 [13:20] <MagisterQuis> Is there a workaround?
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#1389 [13:21] <NinjaKirby> Hmm, when I've suffered that, I think restarting the Server has been the only fix O_O I run vanilla, so hopefully it's on the bug fix list...
#1390 [13:21] <Gae> Hi i play minecraft pocket edition and created a survival world before the latest update which brings clay, my question is can i get clay in this world now that i have updated
#1391 [13:22] <Calinou> no, you can't
#1392 [13:22] <Calinou> you have to create a new world
#1393 [13:22] <Calinou> (are the worlds infinite in the pocket edition?)
#1394 [13:22] <Gae> No can got up to the edges
#1395 [13:23] <Gae> You can go up to the edges
#1396 [13:23] <MagisterQuis> I don't see it listed on the wiki -> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features
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#1398 [13:24] <Calinou> the PE upcoming features are here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Pocket_Edition_upcoming_features
#1399 [13:26] <NinjaKirby> "On rare occasions light can render in areas with no light emitting objects whatsoever. This possibly happens when older Minecraft version worlds are loaded into newer versions."
#1400 [13:27] <NinjaKirby> Possibly, hmmm :/
#1401 [13:28] <MagisterQuis> It's a possibility.
#1402 [13:28] <NinjaKirby> It is a little vague as well, doesn't even reference Day/Night pouring into impossible area's, but at least it's like... established, as remotely common
#1403 [13:28] <MagisterQuis> I don't control the server at all.
#1404 [13:29] <MagisterQuis> It's more light just existing than anything.
#1405 [13:29] <MagisterQuis> The angles are all wrong for it to be caused by the sun.
#1406 [13:29] <NinjaKirby> I guess turning on and off smooth lighting in your Video Options doesn't reset stuff
#1407 [13:30] <NinjaKirby> Or, off and on, should I say.
#1408 [13:30] <MagisterQuis> I'll try it.
#1409 [13:30] <MagisterQuis> Other people saw the light, though.
#1410 [13:30] <NinjaKirby> Ah, so it is like, server side not client.
#1411 [13:31] <MagisterQuis> yeah.
#1412 [13:31] <MagisterQuis> Keeps mobs from spawning, I think.
#1413 [13:31] <MagisterQuis> Well, no.
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#1415 [13:31] <MagisterQuis> At one point I blocked the light-emitting blocks, and I still was mobless.
#1416 [13:32] <NinjaKirby> Slapping down torches doesn't force the area's light to be recalculated and stuff
#1417 [13:32] <NinjaKirby> I presume :3
#1418 [13:32] <MagisterQuis> Tried it.
#1419 [13:32] <NinjaKirby> I dunno how Chunks are treated these days, but maybe everyone moves away from the Chunk to be unloaded, then go back for it to reload from scratch XD
#1420 [13:32] <NinjaKirby> Or maybe it's a silly plan.
#1421 [13:33] <MagisterQuis> Tried that.
#1422 [13:33] <MagisterQuis> I didn't try a button or a switch, however.
#1423 [13:33] <NinjaKirby> I'd be incline to rage in frustration and blow it all to hell with TNT
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#1425 [13:34] <NinjaKirby> Oh ah, try and change the state of the block by powering it? :P Nice
#1426 [13:34] <MagisterQuis> Yep.
#1427 [13:34] <NinjaKirby> Ack, sorry, afk
#1428 [13:34] <MagisterQuis> np
#1429 [13:39] <MagisterQuis> Seems to have helped.
#1430 [13:40] <NinjaKirby> Ah? Which action? The Buttons/Lever trick?
#1431 [13:41] <MagisterQuis> Button
#1432 [13:41] <MagisterQuis> 'Course, it could have been random.
#1433 [13:41] <MagisterQuis> I'll know later when I come back to it.
#1434 [13:42] <NinjaKirby> Hai, wakarimasu
#1435 [13:42] <MagisterQuis> Also, turns out falling zombies cause damage.
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#1437 [13:50] <sunyshoremon> Does anyone here know how to access FTP online? Any possible way?
#1438 [13:52] <oldtopman> sunyshoremon: Wrong channel?
#1439 [13:53] <sunyshoremon> nop
#1440 [13:53] <sunyshoremon> i need help with minecraft that way
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#1443 [13:54] <D00dle_MH> Hello :) I have a question with my Bukkit nitrado server... Where can I ask ???
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#1446 [13:55] <oldtopman> D00dle_MH: Try #bukkit
#1447 [13:56] <D00dle_MH> thanks
#1448 [13:56] <D00dle_MH> thanks
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#1450 [13:56] <oldtopman> sunyshoremon: What does minecraft have to do with FTP?
#1451 [13:56] <zedway> i dont know anyone with minecraft. How do i do multiplayer with people?
#1452 [13:57] <sunyshoremon> accessing your minecraft files..
#1453 [13:58] <oldtopman> zedway: See the multiplayer button?
#1454 [13:59] <oldtopman> sunyshoremon: What is the base problem?
#1455 [13:59] <oldtopman> I don't know of any solutions that involve FTP
#1456 [13:59] <zedway> yes but where do i find other players to get or give server address?
#1457 [13:59] <oldtopman> ??> zedway smp
#1458 [13:59] <VoxelHead> zedway: (smp) Survival Multi-Player
#1459 [13:59] <oldtopman> ??> zedway smp/servers
#1460 [13:59] <VoxelHead> zedway: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1461 [13:59] <VoxelHead> zedway: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1462 [14:00] <zedway> or are there servers similar to steam that put you into contact with others
#1463 [14:00] <zedway> I will check these out
#1464 [14:01] <zedway> thank you!
#1465 [14:01] <oldtopman> No problem :)
#1466 [14:04] <sunyshoremon> Nvm I figured it out
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#1472 [14:09] <systemic> Hey, can i ask a newb question? For the seed generation system in Minecraft p.e., or minecraft in general, do I just type the word or string into the seed box, or is there something I'm missing?
#1473 [14:11] <oldtopman> Yep, type it in.
#1474 [14:11] <oldtopman> non-numbers are translated to numbers, then the world is generated.
#1475 [14:15] <systemic> alright, sweet. thanks for the help!
#1476 [14:15] <Alfred> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Alfred wsugfqciumva
#1477 [14:15] <oldtopman> Alfred: *aherm*
#1478 [14:15] <oldtopman> AuBot: You need to put a / in front of that
#1479 [14:16] <oldtopman> Boreeas: you need to change that password now
#1480 [14:16] <oldtopman> feh
#1481 [14:16] <oldtopman> y u so filling out names
#1482 [14:17] <TheNoodle> lol.
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#1484 [14:27] <Shanerocks101> If anyone else needs help just ask me im a good tech guy with minecraft and java and computers ect
#1485 [14:27] <MagisterQuis> etc*
#1486 [14:27] * NinjaKirby is suspicious
#1486 [14:27] <Eddie> We all know Scala > Java
#1487 [14:27] <Shanerocks101> sorry thanks magisterquis
#1488 [14:28] <Shanerocks101> java is the most easiest programming language for me so i'm pretty good at it . :)
#1489 [14:29] <NinjaKirby> What's the less easiest?
#1490 [14:29] <NinjaKirby> He's gone -_-
#1491 [14:29] <MagisterQuis> Aww.
#1492 [14:29] <MagisterQuis> That would have been fun.
#1493 [14:29] <MagisterQuis> I've never met anybody who's used other languages who's liked Java.
#1494 [14:29] <Eddie> There is a difference between being good with a programming language and being good at programming in Java.
#1495 [14:29] <Eddie> I mean in general.
#1496 [14:29] <NinjaKirby> Lessest easiest progamming linguist
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#1498 [14:30] <MagisterQuis> Lol.
#1499 [14:30] <Muffy> hi
#1500 [14:30] <MagisterQuis> Hello.
#1501 [14:30] <MagisterQuis> Right. Off to mandatory fun.
#1502 [14:30] <Muffy> umm how do u find the sever port? when making a multiplayer minecraft server? o3o
#1503 [14:30] <MagisterQuis> Whee...
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#1505 [14:30] <MagisterQuis> nmap?
#1506 [14:30] <Muffy> ?
#1507 [14:30] <MagisterQuis> Though, if you leave it blank on the client, it'll use the default.
#1508 [14:31] <MagisterQuis> Is it on the internet, or a public network?
#1509 [14:31] <MagisterQuis> s/public/private
#1510 [14:31] <Muffy> I made my own server and for some reason othesr cant connect to it
#1511 [14:31] <Muffy> olnly I can
#1512 [14:31] <Muffy> Im thinking its because the server port used to be my friend's
#1513 [14:31] <Muffy> its private
#1514 [14:32] <MagisterQuis> Starting Minecraft server on *:25565 <— The number after *:
#1515 [14:33] <MagisterQuis> It'll be in your server logs.
#1516 [14:33] <Muffy> Thanks...hhmm thats was the port before when it didn't work xD
#1517 [14:33] <Muffy> ommg so it must be something else
#1518 [14:33] <MagisterQuis> Well, check firewalling, port forwarding, such.
#1519 [14:33] <MagisterQuis|AFK> I really am going this time.
#1520 [14:34] <Muffy> yea i cant find my linksys router model...im thinking its on the box but I dont have it with me
#1521 [14:34] <Muffy> o-o
#1522 [14:36] <Muffy> well okay then
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#1524 [14:37] <PeetaBread> HHHHHHHHHAY
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#1526 [14:38] <daddy_doodle> Hello
#1527 [14:38] <PeetaBread> i
#1528 [14:38] <PeetaBread> hi
#1529 [14:38] <PeetaBread> umm,
#1530 [14:38] <PeetaBread> u see
#1531 [14:38] <PeetaBread> im trying to make a multiplaye mincecraft server
#1532 [14:39] <PeetaBread> and it seems that other people can' connect to it
#1533 [14:39] <PeetaBread> only I can on the same computer
#1534 [14:39] <skyboy> ??> PeetaBread do/,
#1535 [14:39] <VoxelHead> PeetaBread: (do/,) The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#1536 [14:39] <xales> PeetaBread: They are using the wrong address, or you have not port forwarded properly, or you have incorrectly configured the server.
#1537 [14:40] <PeetaBread> how do i coorrectly configure it lol
#1538 [14:41] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#1539 [14:41] <PeetaBread> Thanks so much ^u^
#1540 [14:41] <PeetaBread> everyone else is a fag kbye
#1541 [14:41] * AuBot kicked PeetaBread from #minecrafthelp (Reason: eetaBread :Please keep it civil.)
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#1543 [14:42] <xales> ._.
#1544 [14:44] <daddy_doodle> I'm wondering how to fix my minecraft client, it can't connect to the internet, usually that isn't a problem, because I can play in browser, but it doesn't show up, just the little box with x in it, in the top left corner, does anyone know how to fix it so it can connect to the internet?
#1545 [14:46] <xales> daddy_doodle: Generally, if the launcher is being prevented from connecting, you have a firewall or some such similar software blocking it.
#1546 [14:46] <daddy_doodle> So how would stop it from blocking?
#1547 [14:48] <xales> That depends on what firewall you have. Generally, you can add some sort of exception. However, to test if that is in fact the issue, it's usually just easier to completely disable it temporarily.
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#1549 [14:49] <wizard101guy20> Hello
#1550 [14:49] <xales> Hi.
#1551 [14:49] <NinjaKirby> lol @ Peetabread
#1552 [14:49] <NinjaKirby> lol @ Peetabread
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#1554 [14:49] <wizard101guy20> Can Anyone Help Me With My Minecraft Problem?
#1555 [14:49] <xales> ??> wizard101guy20 ask
#1556 [14:49] <VoxelHead> wizard101guy20: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1557 [14:49] <VoxelHead> wizard101guy20: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1558 [14:50] <wizard101guy20> I need Help With My Minecraft
#1559 [14:50] <xales> Yes, you've already said that.
#1560 [14:51] <xales> If you want help, you should probably be more specific. While we *can* read your mind, we generally do not.
#1561 [14:51] <wizard101guy20> When I try to buy the game it says 26.95 USD Could not be uploaded by Credit/Debit Card
#1562 [14:51] <xales> Are you trying to use a gift card or other type of prepaid card?
#1563 [14:51] <wizard101guy20> A Credit Card
#1564 [14:51] <Scott> oh umm xales
#1565 [14:52] <xales> Contact the issuing bank, they are denying the transaction. This generally happens because it is an international charge.
#1566 [14:52] <xales> Scott: hi
#1567 [14:52] <Scott> there is a new law in the US that prevents prepaid cards from being used in international transactions
#1568 [14:52] <xales> Scott: Banks have been blocking it for a long time anyway
#1569 [14:52] <xales> not new
#1570 [14:52] <Scott> But before you could just confirm you identity
#1571 [14:52] <Scott> now you can't.
#1572 [14:52] <Scott> your*
#1573 [14:53] <wizard101guy20> Well I called Moneybookers And They Said Try It Again And It Would Work And I Tried It Again But It Didn't Work.
#1574 [14:53] <xales> No, even with a registered card (called bank and gave address, SSN etc) I couldn't purchase it, back in the end of 2010
#1575 [14:53] <xales> wizard101guy20: I said to call the issuing bank, not Moneybookers.
#1576 [14:53] <xales> That means "call the number on the back of your card"
#1577 [14:54] <wizard101guy20> Ok
#1578 [14:55] <Scott> xales: well crappy bank :P
#1579 [14:55] <xales> Scott: PNC
#1580 [14:55] <xales> :p
#1581 [14:57] <wizard101guy20> l
#1582 [14:57] <daddy_doodle> No, it isn't the firewall
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#1584 [14:59] <xales> daddy_doodle: Are you at home or otherwise on a personal Internet connection, or a work/school connection?
#1585 [14:59] <daddy_doodle> Personal
#1586 [15:00] <xales> Okay. Please uninstall any and all versions of Java that your computer currently has installed, and then download the latest version of Java 6 from this link:
#1587 [15:00] <xales> ??> daddy_doodle getjava
#1588 [15:00] <VoxelHead> daddy_doodle: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1589 [15:00] <daddy_doodle> Thank you, I'll try it
#1590 [15:01] <wizard101guy20> Can you buy any Minecraft gift codes from stores or just online?
#1591 [15:01] <xales> wizard101guy20: Only onlie.
#1592 [15:01] <xales> online*.
#1593 [15:01] <xales> Specifically, only from minecraft.net
#1594 [15:02] <wizard101guy20> Are they ever gonna start selling Minecraft gift codes in the U.S?
#1595 [15:02] <daddy_doodle> This will probably be a stupid question, but how do I uninstall Java?
#1596 [15:02] <xales> daddy_doodle: From the "Programs & Features" or "Add and Remove Programs" section in the Control Panel, if you are on Windows.
#1597 [15:02] <xales> wizard101guy20: They already do. Via minecraft.net.
#1598 [15:03] <wizard101guy20> I meant like in a store or something
#1599 [15:03] <xales> That will almost certainly never happen, no.
#1600 [15:04] <xales> The software market is moving *away* from physical stores, not towards it.
#1601 [15:04] <wizard101guy20> So If I wanted to buy a minecraft gift code on the site and it didn't work i would have to call the number on the back of my card too?
#1602 [15:05] <xales> It doesn't work because your bank is denying the transaction.
#1603 [15:05] <xales> You have to call your bank to get them to allow the transaction
#1604 [15:05] <wizard101guy20> Oh
#1605 [15:05] * xales has already said this .-.
#1605 [15:06] <wizard101guy20> ._.
#1606 [15:06] <zedway> where do i get and how do i install tekkit?
#1607 [15:06] <xales> ??> zedway mods
#1608 [15:06] <VoxelHead> zedway: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1609 [15:06] <VoxelHead> zedway: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1610 [15:07] <xales> In addition, the Tekkit modpack violates the intellectual property rights of modders, and is rather nasty to them.
#1611 [15:07] <xales> Please do not use it.
#1612 [15:09] <Boreeas> oldtopman: Oh no, how did you guess that my password is Passw0rd!
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#1614 [15:12] <Jethro> Can I ask for mod help in here?
#1615 [15:12] <xales> Jethro: What, specifically, do you need help with?
#1616 [15:12] <xales> We generally do not support mods, but we can direct you to the correct place, unless I happen to know the answer off the top of my head.
#1617 [15:13] <Jethro> Well, it's involves an error log, so I guess you better direct me to the correct place
#1618 [15:13] <xales> #risucraft would probably be the best place
#1619 [15:15] <wizard101guy20> Do you guys know that people (not me) are putting videos about premium account generators on youtube?
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#1621 [15:15] <xales> There's no such thing as a "premium account generator" but yes, we are aware of that.
#1622 [15:16] <TuxOtaku> hey, how do I prevent players from placing/breaking blocks on a given map?
#1623 [15:17] <xales> TuxOtaku: You'd have to use a server mod/plugin for that.
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#1625 [15:17] <TuxOtaku> I figured as much...I know server mods are kind of a dicey topic in here, but could someone point me in the general direction of a server mod that would help me here?
#1626 [15:18] <TuxOtaku> one that supports Bukkit, preferably
#1627 [15:18] <Elystus> http://plugins.bukkit.org/#ti=&ta=all&au=&subm=false&pno=0
#1628 [15:18] <xales> You'd have better luck asking in #bukkit or looking on their forum. I personally have no experience with Bukkit or Bukkit mods, and I don't think anyone else here does either.
#1629 [15:18] <Elystus> Worldguard is good if it still exists
#1630 [15:19] <wizard101guy20> How do you create a multiplayer server?
#1631 [15:19] <wizard101guy20> You have to purchase one?
#1632 [15:19] <xales> wizard101guy20: If you haven't even purchased the game yet, don't worry about it.
#1633 [15:19] <TuxOtaku> Elystus, I installed worldguard. I don't quite understand how it works
#1634 [15:19] <xales> If you just want to play multiplayer, you do not need to run a server.
#1635 [15:19] <xales> If you need to ask how to run a server, then you probably shouldn't run one.
#1636 [15:20] <Elystus> TuxOtaku: Watch some videos about it on Youtube.
#1637 [15:22] <wizard101guy20> afk
#1638 [15:24] <wizard101guy20> back
#1639 [15:25] <|Anthony|> !check mcrpg.servegame.com
#1640 [15:27] <daddy_doodle> Yay! It works! Thank you
#1641 [15:30] <wizard101guy20> So I need to tell the bank to allow the tracsaction to Minecraft right?
#1642 [15:30] <wizard101guy20> transaction*
#1643 [15:31] <xales> Yes, that's what I've said
#1644 [15:31] <wizard101guy20> Ok Thanks!
#1645 [15:31] <wizard101guy20> Ok Thanks!
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#1653 [15:59] <monsterr1274> how do you enter other channels?
#1654 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> /join #channelname
#1655 [16:00] <monsterr1274> cuz doing / and then #tropicrafthelp isnt working
#1656 [16:00] <monsterr1274> oh join ok
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#1658 [16:12] <moono> hey i need help
#1659 [16:12] <moono> when i og on
#1660 [16:12] <moono> i start falling
#1661 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> Is this on.. single player/
#1662 [16:12] <moono> and it says [CraftProxyList] Closed
#1663 [16:13] <Grim_Reaper> Or a server?
#1664 [16:13] <Grim_Reaper> If it's the server. It might be the server itself causing the issue. I would suggest trying to join another server and see if the same thing happens
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#1667 [16:20] <moono> anyone
#1668 [16:20] <moono> help?
#1669 [16:21] <moono> diskdaemon?
#1670 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> [22:13] <+Grim_Reaper> Or a server?
#1671 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> [22:13] <+Grim_Reaper> If it's the server. It might be the server itself causing the issue. I would suggest trying to join another server and see if the same thing happens
#1672 [16:21] <moono> kk
#1673 [16:21] <moono> well its weird
#1674 [16:21] <moono> the server has eople on
#1675 [16:21] <moono> but its the only server that makes me do that
#1676 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm. Perhaps ask the server owner to reset your player file
#1677 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> It could have gotten corrupt
#1678 [16:22] <moono> how can i get to her
#1679 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> He'll need to delete it or something
#1680 [16:22] <Grim_Reaper> Perhaps they have a site?
#1681 [16:22] <moono> hmm they do but htis is a server i dont go on much
#1682 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> Other than that.. Im not sure what else I can suggest :|
#1683 [16:23] <Grim_Reaper> Unless you can contact them somehow
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#1688 [16:38] <conner> heloo i am having a problem can someone help?
#1689 [16:39] <conner> ?
#1690 [16:39] <xales> ??> conner ask
#1691 [16:39] <VoxelHead> conner: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1692 [16:39] <VoxelHead> conner: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1694 [16:41] <conner> im having a problem logging in and i know yesterday the people here said my email isnt accoiated with my minecraft account
#1695 [16:41] <conner> i remember i have another email but i cant remember it
#1696 [16:42] <conner> i also used this email to buy minecraft
#1697 [16:43] <conner> what should i do
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#1699 [16:43] <conner> ????|
#1700 [16:44] <conner> ???
#1701 [16:44] <TylerMcAwesome> am using a new computer and have bought game on a different computer and can't seem to download again to play
#1702 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> TylerMcAwesome - What happens when you try?
#1703 [16:44] <conner> im having a problem logging in and i know yesterday the people here said my email isnt accoiated with my minecraft account [16:41] <conner> i remember i have another email but i cant remember it [16:42] <conner> i also used this email to buy minecraft [16:43] <conner> what should i do
#1704 [16:44] <TylerMcAwesome> when trying to play multiplayer I get a error message that I am out of memory
#1705 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> conner - Do a http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename on all email accounts you use
#1706 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> conner - That way, you'll get an email with all the usernames associated with that email
#1707 [16:45] <conner> i dont rremember the email i used
#1708 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> conner - Then there's nothing we can help you with here. Emails are confidential.
#1709 [16:45] <conner> what do ido
#1710 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> TylerMcAwesome - Could you try turning down some of the graphics options in minecraft? See if that helps any?
#1711 [16:46] <TylerMcAwesome> how do i redownload the game on my new computer
#1712 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> conner - Try contacting Mojang directly through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1713 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> TylerMcAwesome - Just download the launcher from www.minecraft.net/download -- It downloads the files automatically when you log in
#1714 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> To redownload the files, you can use the "Force Update" option in the launcher
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#1716 [16:52] <conner> @greyvulpine i found the email used for my minecraft what do i do now?
#1717 [16:53] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 2
#1718 [16:53] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 2 = For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi ] ... set by [ Boreeas | Sun Jul 15 05:04:41 MST 2012 ]
#1719 [16:53] <conner> ?
#1720 [16:54] <conner> i still cant log in what do i do
#1721 [16:55] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
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#1724 [16:59] <craftraider> Hi! We paid for a premium account on Sunday. Payment posted & we're still not able to use the premium account. Can we get some help with this here?
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#1726 [17:00] <xales> craftraider: What message do you get? "User not premium?"
#1727 [17:00] <TylerMcAwesome> turning down the graphics didn't work nor downloading launcher!
#1728 [17:01] <craftraider> yes when we log in we get User Not Premium and the our online account still shows "Buy" not play and that we must buy a premium account to do the skins.
#1729 [17:01] <xales> TylerMcAwesome: Try closing all other programs; if you are on a 64-bit system, install 64-bit Java. Other than that, you'd just need to get more memory.
#1730 [17:02] <xales> craftraider: Have you checked with your bank that the transaction was made successfully?
#1731 [17:02] <craftraider> Yes funds have cleared.
#1732 [17:02] <TylerMcAwesome> i bought premium and then got a newer computer and was working fine when the memory error message sign poped up and logged me out
#1733 [17:03] <xales> TylerMcAwesome: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
#1734 [17:03] <TylerMcAwesome> how do i do that?
#1735 [17:03] <xales> ...your computer. Turn it off. Then back on.
#1736 [17:03] <TylerMcAwesome> ok i'll try
#1737 [17:04] <craftraider> What do we need to do in order to get our account up? Funds have cleared bank
#1738 [17:05] <xales> craftraider: You bought it from minecraft.net, correct?
#1739 [17:05] <craftraider> yes we did. even have the transaction id.
#1740 [17:06] <xales> Are you sure you are logging into the correct account, using the email address? Also, have you checked your email (including the spam folder) to see if you got any sort of email?
#1741 [17:06] <craftraider> are you asking me?
#1742 [17:07] <xales> Yep.
#1743 [17:07] <craftraider> yes, we're using the correct account, correct email. only emails we have received are from the transaction, have checked junk folder also
#1744 [17:09] <xales> Hmm. You bought it using an "instant" method, like a credit or debit card, and not a bank account transfer, correct?
#1745 [17:09] <TylerMcAwesome> now it won't even let me on multiplayer servers!
#1746 [17:09] <craftraider> Correct. Used a Visa on Sunday morning (central time). Payment didn't even clear until last night. Still unable to access the premium.
#1747 [17:10] <xales> TylerMcAwesome: Have you restarted your computer?
#1748 [17:10] <TylerMcAwesome> yes it still won't work
#1749 [17:10] <xales> craftraider: Unfortunately, we are community support and can't help beyond checking common issues and telling you where to get help. You can contact Mojang by following the instructions at the end of this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
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#1752 [17:11] <legodgamerguy> Hello?
#1753 [17:11] <xales> TylerMcAwesome: Are you talking here from the computer you are trying to play from?
#1754 [17:11] <xales> legodgamerguy: Hi.
#1755 [17:11] <TylerMcAwesome> yes
#1756 [17:11] <legodgamerguy> Can SOmeone Test 96.242.123.63 Please?
#1757 [17:11] <TylerMcAwesome> i would if i could
#1758 [17:11] <xales> !check 96.242.123.63
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#1761 [17:11] <xales> legodgamerguy: Works fine.
#1762 [17:12] <xales> TylerMcAwesome: You didn't disconnect from here, so you did not restart your computer.
#1763 [17:12] <legodgamerguy> Thats My Name..?
#1764 [17:12] <Maxxe> It's my first time playing Minecraft, how do I rejoin a server?
#1765 [17:12] <legodgamerguy> Just Put the Ip back In.
#1766 [17:12] <TylerMcAwesome> ok i'll try again
#1767 [17:12] <xales> Maxxe: The same way you did the first time.
#1768 [17:12] <legodgamerguy> Or Make A New Thing
#1769 [17:13] <craftraider> Thank you xales, I have already sent emails on 2 seperate days. Unfortunately I haven't received a response.
#1770 [17:13] <Maxxe> Well xales, I want to play multiplayer, how can I rejoin a server?
#1771 [17:13] <legodgamerguy> So Did someone Test 96.242.123.63?
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#1773 [17:13] <Maxxe> or is there a server list?
#1774 [17:13] <xales> legodgamerguy: Yes, I already told you. It works fine.
#1775 [17:13] <DJ_yoeri> hey i want a cape
#1776 [17:13] <Elystus> legodgamerguy: Yes xales tested it. It works.
#1777 [17:13] <xales> DJ_yoeri: You can't have one.
#1778 [17:13] <DJ_yoeri> but i dont now how
#1779 [17:13] <legodgamerguy> Then Join Again
#1780 [17:13] <DJ_yoeri> why can i have one
#1781 [17:13] <legodgamerguy> Ok thanks
#1782 [17:13] <xales> Maxxe: Are you looking for a server?
#1783 [17:13] <Maxxe> yes.
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#1786 [17:14] <xales> Maxxe: http://minestatus.net/
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#1788 [17:14] <DJ_yoeri> please why cant i have a cape and because i ask that dont kik
#1789 [17:14] <DJ_yoeri> i only ask why can i have a cape
#1790 [17:14] <xales> DJ_yoeri: Do you work for Mojang?
#1791 [17:14] <oldtopman> DJ_yoeri: Nobody has capes except for a few people.
#1792 [17:15] <DJ_yoeri> no
#1793 [17:15] <xales> Then you can't have a cape.
#1794 [17:15] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: If anyone could have a cape, then nothing would be special about it.
#1795 [17:15] <DJ_yoeri> ok
#1796 [17:15] <craftraider> Thank you xales, I have already sent emails on 2 seperate days. Unfortunately I haven't received a response. what else can i do?
#1797 [17:15] <DJ_yoeri> so antvenom is majong
#1798 [17:15] <Elystus> DJ_yoeri: you get one if you attended minecon.
#1799 [17:15] <Elystus> also
#1800 [17:16] <legodgamerguy> Ok Thanks 4 Testing It :)
#1801 [17:16] <DJ_yoeri> what is minecon
#1802 [17:16] <xales> craftraider: It may take some time to get a response, unfortunately. You can try a chargeback and buying it again, or just wait. I can also see if one of the support guys is around.
#1803 [17:16] * xales kicked DJ_yoeri from #minecrafthelp (Reason: J_yoeri :Stop wasting our time. Learn to use Google.)
#1804 [17:16] <xales> ..and it seems he isn't at the moment, sorry.
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#1806 [17:17] <Elystus> xales: Marc usually comes on irc later in the day.
#1807 [17:17] <Elystus> if he does.
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#1809 [17:17] <craftraider> :/ this is sad. it was for my sons 8th bday & he hasn't been able to play:( xales I appreciate your time.
#1810 [17:18] <infin17us> would anyone be willing to help me for a moment? no worries if all of you guys are busy :)
#1811 [17:18] <xales> craftraider: No problem; I hope you manage to get it resolved.
#1812 [17:19] <lemon-rev> infin17us whats up
#1813 [17:19] <xales> infin17us: If you tell us what the problem is, sure
#1814 [17:19] <infin17us> whenever I try to add any mods like minecraft forge or higher resolution skins, the sound output disappears entirely. whenever i do a force update, the sound returns. any thoughts? I've been googling for days trying to figure out what i'm doing wrong to no avail ><
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#1816 [17:19] <TylerMcAwesome> i'm back and checking if it's going to work
#1817 [17:20] <infin17us> i don't know if it's how i'm installing things, or if i'm installing things that don't like my copy of minecraft or what, but for some reason every time i try to do anything other than vanilla MC the sound is completely gone ><
#1818 [17:20] <xales> infin17us: are you sure it's not just muted in the options?
#1819 [17:20] <infin17us> yup
#1820 [17:20] <infin17us> doublechecked there, checked the built in mixer, all my sound devices everything
#1821 [17:21] <xales> infin17us: You could try asking #minecraftforge or #risucraft
#1822 [17:21] <TylerMcAwesome> that happens to me a lot it's probably where you are in the world
#1823 [17:21] <xales> TylerMcAwesome: uhh, what.
#1824 [17:22] <infin17us> well it was happening when i'd just add mods in manually like an autoswitcher mod that i found
#1825 [17:22] <TylerMcAwesome> usally my sound just boom selient and i'm like whats going on but then it turns back on later
#1826 [17:22] <infin17us> see i assumed that, but i played for like a couple hours solid and no sound
#1827 [17:23] <xales> infin17us: We can't really help with mods here, and I don't really know what would cause it to do that, but modders live in #risucraft and #minecraftforge and they will be able to help you
#1828 [17:23] <infin17us> fair enough. thanks anyway for the help. i'll go bug them. =)
#1829 [17:23] <xales> infin17us: sure. Good luck
#1830 [17:23] <infin17us> xales: lol hope i get some XD
#1831 [17:24] <infin17us> thanks again!
#1832 [17:24] <infin17us> thanks again!
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#1834 [17:24] <TylerMcAwesome> great nothing is working launcher or the regular minecraft homepage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1835 [17:24] <xales> TylerMcAwesome: Well, first of all, if you don't tell us /why/ they aren't working, then we can't help you.
#1836 [17:25] <xales> Second, we won't help you if you spam punctuation like that.
#1837 [17:25] <TylerMcAwesome> idk why i got a new computer and it didn't work go on old computer works
#1838 [17:26] <xales> ??> TylerMcAwesome win/dxdiag
#1839 [17:26] <VoxelHead> TylerMcAwesome: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1840 [17:26] <VoxelHead> TylerMcAwesome: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1841 [17:27] <TylerMcAwesome> i'll try
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#1843 [17:32] <Guest_> hello?
#1844 [17:32] <TylerMcAwesome> the last sentence is a little over my head can you rephrase
#1845 [17:32] <Guest_> lol
#1846 [17:32] <TylerMcAwesome> http://pastebin.com/HcRRxyEp
#1847 [17:33] <TylerMcAwesome> nevermind
#1848 [17:33] * Guest_ <-- dork
#1848 [17:33] <TylerMcAwesome> wait i figured it ou heres the lunk
#1849 [17:33] <TylerMcAwesome> link**
#1850 [17:33] <Rikairchy> oh god why
#1851 [17:33] <Rikairchy> Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
#1852 [17:33] <Rikairchy> Dedicated Memory: 64 MB
#1853 [17:34] <Guest_> anybody mind answering a question about moving from a local server to a hosted server?
#1854 [17:34] <Elystus> Won't run >_>
#1855 [17:34] <Rikairchy> sure
#1856 [17:34] <TylerMcAwesome> who?
#1857 [17:34] <Rikairchy> TylerMcAwesome
#1858 [17:34] <Rikairchy> you can't
#1859 [17:34] <Rikairchy> theres just no way
#1860 [17:34] <TylerMcAwesome> what
#1861 [17:34] <xales> Rikairchy: It should run fine
#1862 [17:34] <Rikairchy> how do you even get it to run
#1863 [17:35] <xales> Rikairchy: it doesn't have dedicated memory, which is retarded
#1864 [17:35] <Rikairchy> have they fixed the intel issues then?
#1865 [17:35] <xales> but it should still run...ish
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#1867 [17:35] <TylerMcAwesome> whats going on
#1868 [17:35] <xales> TylerMcAwesome: Go to Control Panel and uninstall every version of Java that is listed in "Programs & Features"
#1869 [17:35] <Rikairchy> TylerMcAwesome: you have a video card i would not recommend for doing anything related to gaming :(
#1870 [17:35] <Rikairchy> but thats me
#1871 [17:35] <xales> Then go here and download the latest 64-bit version of Java:
#1872 [17:36] <xales> ??> TylerMcAwesome getjava
#1873 [17:36] <VoxelHead> TylerMcAwesome: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1874 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> Can someone give me a concise explanation of the issue that breaks Minecraft if the user has a special character in their filepath? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
#1875 [17:36] * Marc_IRL whipcrack Elystus
#1875 [17:37] <Guest_> heh
#1876 [17:37] <Elystus> What?
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#1878 [17:37] <Rikairchy> clarjon1 stop stalking me :(
#1879 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> I think DiskDaemon was originally telling me about it
#1880 [17:37] <Elystus> Basically, java cannot process the special character at the end of the windows username
#1881 [17:37] <Guest_> sounds about right
#1882 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> Does it just cause the game to not run, not download, or crash?
#1883 [17:38] <Elystus> Marc one moment
#1884 [17:38] <Elystus> The launcher will look like this
#1885 [17:38] <Elystus> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l6nyyhl9ic3i0v5/Minecraft%20special%20character%20fix.png
#1886 [17:39] <Elystus> And it will not allow you to connect to minecraft.net
#1887 [17:40] <Marc_IRL> talking to dinnerbone on skype, sent it to him
#1888 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - Variety of behaviors
#1889 [17:40] <GreyVulpine> Most often, "Can't connect to minecraft.net", it can also do that black screen on launcher, it can also stop on "Done loading"
#1890 [17:41] <GreyVulpine> It's also been known to cause a number of other issues as well
#1891 [17:41] <Marc_IRL> Dinnerbone says "Can I get an example path/username/string/anything?"
#1892 [17:41] <xales> "Minecraft!" would probably do it
#1893 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> http://mibpaste.com/rDzMnH
#1894 [17:42] <GreyVulpine> Here's one
#1895 [17:43] <Rikairchy> i have a curiousity question
#1896 [17:43] <Marc_IRL> Lovely, that should do it ^_^
#1897 [17:43] <Marc_IRL> Nice user name :p
#1898 [17:43] <Rikairchy> should these specs give me 100+ fps on minecraft?
#1899 [17:43] <GreyVulpine> Heh
#1900 [17:43] <Rikairchy> http://pastebin.com/9Rf0cbEB
#1901 [17:43] <Elystus> Rikairchy: They might do.
#1902 [17:44] <Elystus> But anything above 60 fps doesn't matter
#1903 [17:44] <Elystus> you cannot process anything faster than that.
#1904 [17:44] * GreyVulpine coughs
#1904 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Not really true
#1905 [17:45] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: ?
#1906 [17:45] <Rikairchy> i heard it was 75
#1907 [17:45] <Rikairchy> i was just curious if it would
#1908 [17:45] <Rikairchy> i know it would on fast/short
#1909 [17:45] <Rikairchy> but on fancy/far.... I'm not sure
#1910 [17:46] <Marc_IRL> He said "This is interesting, I'll look into it tomorrow before my "start playing all of these steam games I'm throwing money at" starts"
#1911 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Elystus - The 60 FPS thing is a myth
#1912 [17:46] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: lol
#1913 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Marc_IRL - It typically happens with ! at the end of a windows username, but we've seen it occur with foreign symbols anywhere in the username
#1914 [17:47] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I imagine this would affect spanish speaking users, as well as a few other languages
#1915 [17:49] <Guest_> Does anyone know if you move from a local server to a hosted server, if you can make sure everything that was built on the local is available on the hosted?
#1916 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> Pretty much as simple as moving the /world/ folder over, and any plugins you may have
#1917 [17:50] <Guest_> that's what i thought
#1918 [17:50] <Guest_> and i have done that
#1919 [17:50] <Guest_> but my son can't seem to find his stuff
#1920 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> On where?
#1921 [17:50] <Guest_> it spawned him somewhere totally different
#1922 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Was it a single player world over to a multiplayer world?
#1923 [17:51] <Guest_> multi
#1924 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#1925 [17:52] <Guest_> he tried getting the compass out and having it lead him to his bed, but that didn't seem to work
#1926 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> Have him delete the world in the hosted server after shutting it down, and moving the /world/ folder over from his local?
#1927 [17:53] <Guest_> hmmm..i don't think i got the plugins folder though
#1928 [17:54] <Guest_> that's what i did.. i'll try it again though
#1929 [17:55] <Guest_> i suspect that the stuff is still there, but he now has to find it
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#1931 [17:55] <Guest_> not sure how feesable that is though
#1932 [17:56] <Guest_> my irc skills are a little aged, how do i give myself a real name?
#1933 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> /nick newname
#1934 [17:56] <Shadowen> thanks!
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#1936 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> If your son had the same name on the local server as the hosted one, it should spawn him in the same spot.
#1937 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> There's a playername.dat file in the /world/players/ folder that stores that info
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#1939 [18:00] <justin> Hello. I purchased minecraft, but cant play. It directed me to my credit unions visa password screen, I filled in the info, and It said failed. So did my debit card work?
#1940 [18:01] <GreyVulpine> If it failed at your bank, then most likely the transaction didn't go through. Call your bank to make sure
#1941 [18:01] <justin> Thats where the hang up is then?
#1942 [18:02] * GreyVulpine nods
#1942 [18:02] <justin> hey thanks
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#1944 [18:11] <MagisterQuis|AFK> Is this an official minecraft channel?
#1945 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> I suppose..
#1946 [18:13] <zkxs> It is about as official as it gets.
#1947 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> We are listed on: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-technical-support-
#1948 [18:13] <Frapedomaxs> I get error 998 when I am trying to enter the game ...I played before and accidently my brother clicked on force update then a pop up came up and had the messege error 998 plz help here
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#1950 [18:15] <zkxs> Frapedomaxs: What OS are you running?
#1951 [18:15] <Frapedomaxs> windows 7 and i think its x64
#1952 [18:15] <Frapedomaxs> not sure though
#1953 [18:15] <zkxs> ??> Frapedomaxs win/reinst
#1954 [18:15] <VoxelHead> Frapedomaxs: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1955 [18:15] <VoxelHead> Frapedomaxs: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1956 [18:18] <Frapedomaxs> same error again :(
#1957 [18:19] <zkxs> Frapedomaxs: This is a support launcher that will save a log file that might give us more information: http://zcraft.no-ip.org:8080/files/.minecrafthelp/MCH-Launcher.jar
#1958 [18:20] <Frapedomaxs> same
#1959 [18:21] <zkxs> Could you open the folder %appdata%\.minecraft and post the contents of minecraft.log to pastebin?
#1960 [18:21] <Frapedomaxs> Minecraft Launcher Started. Successfully redirected output to log file. Attempting to login as user: frapedomaxos21 27 achievements 182 recipes Setting user: Frapedomaxos21, -9064839937199423721 LWJGL Version: 2.4.2
#1961 [18:21] <zkxs> No, pastebin.com
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#1963 [18:22] <zkxs> You can paste the entire log there and then give me the URL
#1964 [18:22] <zkxs> ?? pastebin
#1965 [18:22] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
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#1969 [18:26] <zkxs> Frapedomaxs, you still here?
#1970 [18:26] <Frapedomaxs> yes
#1971 [18:26] <Frapedomaxs> http://pastebin.com/Cy0N9zwz
#1972 [18:27] <zkxs> Oh, that was the whole thing
#1973 [18:27] <Frapedomaxs> hu?
#1974 [18:27] <zkxs> What is the exact text of this error 998, and is it in minecraft's window or a separate popup?
#1975 [18:28] <Frapedomaxs> seperated popup
#1976 [18:29] <Frapedomaxs> and the text is LoadLibrary Error Code 998: Invalid access memory location
#1977 [18:29] <zkxs> Have you restarted your computer since this error started?
#1978 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Typically occurs because of a corrupt video driver
#1979 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> ATI?
#1980 [18:31] <Frapedomaxs> yes i did....many times
#1981 [18:32] <Frapedomaxs> and yes I use ATI
#1982 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Try reinstalling/updating the video driver from ATI's website
#1983 [18:33] <Frapedomaxs> ok sec
#1984 [18:38] <Frapedomaxs> i thimk that I may have a prob with my drivers..I am dowloading the update hope its gonna work
#1985 [18:44] <Elystus|afk> GreyVulpine: Do you know waht link is used by the launcher to download the files for minecraft?
#1986 [18:44] <Elystus|afk> what*
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#1989 [18:46] <Havics> why does my server for multiplayer say "cant reach server"
#1990 [18:47] <DiskDaemon> Are you trying to connect to a server on the same computer that you are using?
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#1994 [18:47] <Havics> no im just making my own server with the minecraft server download and my port is working for forwarding.
#1995 [18:48] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Hi there. Is it possible to get something done about the american express issue with the site? We have people comeing in here because it's still showing that logo, but not accepting payments.
#1996 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> Havics: Okay, use 127.0.0.1 to connect to the server that you're making on your computer
#1997 [18:49] <Marc_IRL> Anyone have screenshots or anything that I can give to people?
#1998 [18:49] <Ely> Oh yes, I keep meaning to mention that :P
#1999 [18:51] <Marc_IRL> I don't have an American Express card, so I can't test it myself
#2000 [18:51] <Ely> Marc_IRL: I can call you on skype when someone comes in with that issue.
#2001 [18:51] <DiskDaemon> The next time it happens, I'll ask for a screenshot
#2002 [18:52] <Ely> ^or that
#2003 [18:52] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, that's preferable
#2004 [18:52] <Marc_IRL> The more info I have when I report issues, the more likely they are to get fixed
#2005 [18:52] <Ely> Wait, calling you in is preferable or the screenshot?
#2006 [18:53] <ShaRose> preferable to ask for the screenshot
#2007 [18:53] <Frapedomaxs> guys thank you it was just the drivers
#2008 [18:53] <ShaRose> without it amex is not going to know what is going on
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#2010 [18:55] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Does the windows icon cache exist for all versions of windows?
#2011 [18:55] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, screenshot, you could skype me when I'm AFK or something
#2012 [18:55] <Marc_IRL> And it runs through Moneybookers actually, I'd probably just send it to our account manager
#2013 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I believe it does
#2014 [18:55] <Elystus> XP, vista, etc.
#2015 [18:56] <DiskDaemon> Yep. It was even an issue in 98
#2016 [18:58] <ShaRose> man though, I didn't know card companies messed up this often though
#2017 [19:00] <Elystus> oh god... 98
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#2020 [19:07] <Shadowen> Hey Grey! Sorry about dropping off like that.. ahd an important phone call come in
#2021 [19:07] <Shadowen> thanks for your help. I'll try and put the world folder back in and see if that takes care of it
#2022 [19:07] <DiskDaemon> When anyoe comes in here with american express issues, I don't recall anyone yet confirming if it's a gift card they're trying to use
#2023 [19:08] <Marc_IRL> Shadowen: Terry Brooks reference?
#2024 [19:08] <Shadowen> ;-)
#2025 [19:08] <Marc_IRL> Booyah
#2026 [19:08] <Shadowen> lol
#2027 [19:08] <Shadowen> been my name since COD1 in 2001 i think
#2028 [19:09] <Marc_IRL> Love those books. Been lucky enough to have met him twice.
#2029 [19:09] <Shadowen> very cool
#2030 [19:09] <Shadowen> i have only read the shanara series
#2031 [19:10] <Shadowen> sword, elfstones, and wishsong
#2032 [19:10] <Marc_IRL> Just that trilogy, or the whole series?
#2033 [19:10] <Shadowen> just that trilogie
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#2035 [19:10] <Marc_IRL> Huh. Weren't the shadowen not introduced until the Heritage of Shannara quadrilogy? haha
#2036 [19:10] <Shadowen> i need to read the whole series
#2037 [19:11] <Shadowen> no.. they were around in the sword
#2038 [19:11] <Shadowen> first book
#2039 [19:11] <Shadowen> or it could have been elfstones
#2040 [19:11] <Marc_IRL> Huh. Well they definitely became a bigger plot point later. Those things got scary.
#2041 [19:11] <Shadowen> it's been so long, don't remember for sure
#2042 [19:11] <Shadowen> lol..they were scary enough in the trilogie
#2043 [19:11] <Marc_IRL> Make sure to read his Knight of the Word books too! At one point, he connects his two seemingly unrelated series.
#2044 [19:12] <Marc_IRL> The home of the elves is in the Oregon forest!
#2045 [19:12] <Shadowen> Nice!
#2046 [19:12] <Shadowen> i will have to do that
#2047 [19:12] <Shadowen> i gotta go man..take it easy!
#2048 [19:12] <Marc_IRL> later
#2049 [19:12] <Shadowen> if you see grey tell him i said thanks again
#2050 [19:12] <Shadowen> please
#2051 [19:18] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: I finally have some time to add more tech support issues to the site. What was that URL again? And is it a complete list of everything you guys wanted me to look at?
#2052 [19:18] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#2053 [19:18] <Rikairchy> Marc_IRL: is VoxelHead your bot?
#2054 [19:19] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: Support articles
#2055 [19:19] <Elystus> ?
#2056 [19:19] <Marc_IRL> Rikairchy: Nope
#2057 [19:19] <Marc_IRL> Elystus: Yeah, I'm listing common issues under the tech support article. It's better than nothing. We talked about this before :p
#2058 [19:19] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: I have some written up if you want them
#2059 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: The url is http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting
#2060 [19:19] <Elystus> I got in the mood for it today
#2061 [19:19] <Elystus> SO I have been typing for 5 hours
#2062 [19:20] <Elystus> 3*
#2063 [19:20] <Marc_IRL> jeez
#2064 [19:20] <Elystus> Got rough drafts of a lot of them.
#2065 [19:20] <DiskDaemon> It's nowhere near a full or complete list, but they are ones to which we have solutions of a kind
#2066 [19:21] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: A fuller listing of issues (categories of them) is at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Categories
#2067 [19:21] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: I almost have all the Major ones done.
#2068 [19:21] <Marc_IRL> I'm looking for stuff that I can copy/paste basically, with a bit of format editing. I'll start with that wiki link, but anything else, just send to my email
#2069 [19:21] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: Will do.
#2070 [19:22] <Marc_IRL> Thanks!
#2071 [19:23] <Elystus> Sent the final versions of the ones I have currently.
#2072 [19:23] <Elystus> I have 5-6 more that I am going to polish out.
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#2074 [19:25] <Marc_IRL> Video card out of date drivers just says update your video cards, but I'm guessing it's more complex than that. Windows update doesn't always even fix that, right?
#2075 [19:25] <Marc_IRL> Video card out of date drivers just says update your video cards, but I'm guessing it's more complex than that. Windows update doesn't always even fix that, right?
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#2077 [19:26] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: I have got that covered
#2078 [19:26] <Elystus> I will be polishing that article after the java one.
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#2080 [19:27] <Marc_IRL> Lol, this is why I was hoping that you guys would collaborate and send me one doc with them :p
#2081 [19:27] <Elystus> We somewhat did.
#2082 [19:27] <Elystus> >_>
#2083 [19:27] <Marc_IRL> I'm gonna take some time to sort through the docs in that email and the info on that page now :p
#2084 [19:27] <Marc_IRL> I'm gonna take some time to sort through the docs in that email and the info on that page now :p
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#2086 [19:28] <Elystus> okay, I will send more docs through as I finish them.
#2087 [19:28] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: Does the help site support images?
#2088 [19:28] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, but I haven't been adding them. Is there an instance where it's necessary?
#2089 [19:29] <Elystus> There are instances where it can help.
#2090 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Commonly the graphics driver issue is caused by this...
#2091 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/discrete
#2092 [19:29] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#2093 [19:29] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#2094 [19:30] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I didn't have that in the article. I will make sure to add that.
#2095 [19:30] <Marc_IRL> I dunno if I'm going to be pasting in links to batch files though :-/
#2096 [19:30] <Elystus> I believe the only one I gave was weith the icon fix.
#2097 [19:31] <Elystus> with*
#2098 [19:31] <Elystus> some people find the fixes to be to complex to do without a batch file fix. And in the situation of the icon fix, you can make things worse.
#2099 [19:32] <Elystus> the batch file makes sure everything is done correctly.
#2100 [19:32] <Marc_IRL> yeah, there's a link to an exe file in the other article :-/
#2101 [19:32] <Elystus> which one?
#2102 [19:33] <Marc_IRL> I know it's easier for people to just download a fix, but I don't know that I can put up links to external fixes that aren't from us
#2103 [19:33] <Marc_IRL> the special character fix
#2104 [19:33] <Elystus> Ohh... forgot about that.
#2105 [19:34] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: You said dinnerbone was going to look into that, correct?
#2106 [19:34] <Marc_IRL> yeah
#2107 [19:34] <Elystus> He will probably fix the issue and that article won't be needed.
#2108 [19:35] <Marc_IRL> Are some/any of these problems PC specific? The fixes seem to be.
#2109 [19:36] <Elystus> Some are
#2110 [19:36] <Elystus> Wait, by pc specific what do you mean?
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#2112 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> Marc_IRL: If by PC-specific, do you mean Windows, or do you mean as distinct from the Xbox and PE releases?
#2113 [19:41] <DopeGhoti> s/If //
#2114 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> Yes, some of the solutions are pc specific, because the problem is specific to windows
#2115 [19:42] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I am deciding how to make them check what version of java they have. What way should I do it. Right now I am having them do it by going to control panel and the uninstall a program option.
#2116 [19:43] <zkxs_> java -version ?
#2117 [19:43] <Elystus> zkxs_: That doesn't tell you if it is 64 or 32 bit though.
#2118 [19:43] <zkxs_> ooh ooh
#2119 [19:44] <zkxs_> "Run java with -d64 or -d32 specified, it will give you an error message if it doesn't support 64-bit or 32-bit respectively. Your JVM may support both."
#2120 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The most effective way is via the control panel java applet
#2121 [19:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> Elystus java/version
#2122 [19:44] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2123 [19:44] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2124 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> hey, zkxs; long time no see. How are you doing?
#2125 [19:45] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: Does that make sure they have 64 bit java on a 64 bit os
#2126 [19:45] <Elystus> ?
#2127 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: let me find out.
#2128 [19:45] <Elystus> even if you are running a 32 bit browser.
#2129 [19:45] <Elystus> Okay :)
#2130 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> if you're running a 32-bit browser, of course it will always show 32-bit
#2131 [19:45] <zkxs> I'm doing fine. I'm not sure if that was sarcasm?
#2132 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> zkxs: It was not.
#2133 [19:46] <Elystus> This is how it is phrased right now: http://pastebin.com/26GFBktp
#2134 [19:46] <Elystus> I figured having them rummage through their files would be too difficult.
#2135 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> It'd be better to use the Java control panel applet. Naturally, the Oracle site won't show me which version of Java I have on a Mac, because Oracle is dumb.
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#2137 [19:48] <Ely> .... What the heck. Thats the second time.
#2138 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> welcome back?
#2139 [19:49] <DiskDaemon> Ely: It possible to determine if they have the right one installed, just by checking their %ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\ folder. If it exists, they have the correct bit-version of Java 7 installed there.
#2140 [19:50] <Ely> DiskDaemon: I could easily write a batch file for it.
#2141 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: but 7 is not preferred.
#2142 [19:50] <Ely> DopeGhoti: if they do not have 7 or 6 we might as well isntall 7
#2143 [19:50] <Ely> install*
#2144 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> But 7 is known to have issued with Minecraft
#2145 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> hence
#2146 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> Elystus java/1.7
#2147 [19:51] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#2148 [19:51] <DiskDaemon> 6 or 7 can be easily checked too. If they have 6 installed, that is what should be used. If they have 7 installed then that is compatible
#2149 [19:51] <Boreeas> Ely: java -version tells me if I use 64 or 32 bit
#2150 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> There have been countless instances of "Minecraft no worky" which have been fixed by upgrading from 1.7 to 1.6
#2151 [19:51] <Elystus> Boreeas: It doesn't for me.
#2152 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: that only works if the JRE is in your path.
#2153 [19:51] <DiskDaemon> Known to be incompatible? We've only seen ipv6 issues when people are suspected to have some kind of malware installed, haven't we?
#2154 [19:51] <Elystus> ^
#2155 [19:51] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Alright, that would explain that.
#2156 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> ipv6 problems are an whole other FAQ
#2157 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/ipv6
#2158 [19:52] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#2159 [19:52] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#2160 [19:52] <Elystus> If only powershell worked on all versions of window.
#2161 [19:52] <Elystus> ;-;
#2162 [19:53] <zkxs> If you made it in java, you could use java.vm.name to find out if it is 64 bit
#2163 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: It works on XP and up, which is all we care about really, isn't it?
#2164 [19:53] <Boreeas> The 1.7 factoid is not entirely correct - Java 7 is out of development.
#2165 [19:53] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: not everyone has it installed.
#2166 [19:53] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: it does? I thought that it was introduced in Vista sp2
#2167 [19:53] <Boreeas> Or, Oracle gives J7 as "default" by now, at lest
#2168 [19:53] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: We could test it with a virtual machine using xp
#2169 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> Correct, not everyone has it installed. Web sites are asking for people to update to 1.7 at this time though. It's the default install from java.com now
#2170 [19:54] <Elystus> Also, I need to fix a part of the script.
#2171 [19:54] <zkxs> Don't you need an XP key to do that?
#2172 [19:54] <DopeGhoti> and yet problems with MC are still fixed by moving to 1.6
#2173 [19:55] <Boreeas> I would love to know what exactly is broken there
#2174 [19:55] <Elystus> zkxs: I believe that microsoft has one on their site now.
#2175 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: it might be that you have to be running "Genuine" Windows to install it.
#2176 [19:55] <zkxs> Elystus: WHAT!
#2177 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> see also: MSE
#2178 [19:55] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: ?
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#2182 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: PowerShell. Its installer / downloadlinkfetcher may check WGA status
#2183 [19:56] <Elystus> maybe
#2184 [19:59] <Elystus> actually, I have xp install disks and keys
#2185 [19:59] <Elystus> might as well check it
#2186 [19:59] * Elystus fires up the virtual machine
#2186 [20:08] <Elystus> .-.
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#2188 [20:08] <Elystus> for some reason, it couldn't detect the disk.
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#2191 [20:33] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Do you have an example of an out of memory error report?
#2192 [20:34] <Elystus> And an update your graphics drivers error report.
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#2194 [20:36] <nate_> i can launch minecraft but it wont run
#2195 [20:36] <nate_> it just goes to not responging
#2196 [20:36] <Elystus> What do you mean?
#2197 [20:36] <lemon-rev> whats the error
#2198 [20:36] <nate_> no eror
#2199 [20:36] <nate_> just not responding
#2200 [20:36] <lemon-rev> make sure ajva is uptodate
#2201 [20:39] <nate_> trying now
#2202 [20:39] <lemon-rev> k
#2203 [20:44] <nate_> samething
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#2205 [20:50] <nate_> any ideas
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#2208 [20:56] <Marc_IRL> Made some updates http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/364794-where-can-i-find-more-help-and-technical-support-
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#2210 [20:57] <nipper> !check mc.mcdominion.net
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#2212 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> Could swear "org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Could not create context" was also a video driver issue..
#2213 [20:58] <blakeh> it keeps saying i have bad video card drivers, what can i do to play minecraft?
#2214 [20:58] <GreyVulpine> blakeh - What video card do you have?
#2215 [20:59] <nate_> i used to have it but i put in a mod and this atarted to happen
#2216 [20:59] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: There are a few other causes for the problematic frame issue.
#2217 [20:59] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Would you like it to let you know about minor grammar issues? Such as with "When running Minecraft is says" it should say "it" instead?
#2218 [20:59] <nate_> iv already reinstalled the game 2
#2219 [20:59] <blakeh> intel i believe?
#2220 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> blakeh - What operating system are you running?
#2221 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon - What was your wiki link again?
#2222 [21:00] <blakeh> windows XP home edition
#2223 [21:00] <GreyVulpine> blakeh - Could you give us a dxdiag?
#2224 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting
#2225 [21:01] <blakeh> how can i get to that?
#2226 [21:01] <GreyVulpine> ??> blakeh win/dxdiag
#2227 [21:01] <VoxelHead> blakeh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2228 [21:01] <VoxelHead> blakeh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2229 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> DiskDaemon - Here's another one for your list. Wrong ELF class. Typically occurs on *nix environments.
#2230 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/2bsLmNhv
#2231 [21:02] <Marc_IRL> I tried to simplify some of the things that I was given. You have to consider the fact that I get a lot of emails from parents and grandparents who want to do zero troubleshooting :-/
#2232 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> Solution, update lwjgl from lwjgl.com
#2233 [21:02] <Elystus> Marc, I could always just make some C++ programs to do it for you >_>
#2234 [21:03] <blakeh> http://pastebin.com/Yz2rRtd8 for the dxdiag
#2235 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> thanks
#2236 [21:05] <GreyVulpine> Oh. For Can't connect to minecraft.net, let me list you the most common causes. ! in the windows username. Invalid system clock, java 7/ipv6 issue, hosts file, firewall.
#2237 [21:05] <Elystus> For the problematic frame, it can be caused by gamepad devices, or something being seen as a gameplay device.
#2238 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> So the common solution of updating the graphic drivers resolves that gamepad issue too?
#2239 [21:06] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: you jsut unplug the game pad device.
#2240 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Here's another one: http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6817/beztytuuajo.png
#2241 [21:07] <Elystus> Headphones as well.
#2242 [21:07] <blakeh> so me having my Astros plugged into the pc can be causing this?
#2243 [21:08] <Elystus> in some rare cases.
#2244 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> blakeh - Your issue stems from having an old intel integrated card, and a gig of RAM
#2245 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> Let me find you some drivers..
#2246 [21:09] <blakeh> i just cleaned out my pc yesterday :P thought id have more gigs
#2247 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> Memory and hard drive space are two seperate things
#2248 [21:09] <Elystus> blakeh: Memory is not the same as hard drive space.
#2249 [21:09] <GreyVulpine> blakeh - Try this first: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9033&ProdId=865&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20%20Home%20Edition*&DownloadType=
#2250 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> If that doesn't work, we'll need to walk you through how to create a batch file that launches minecraft with reduced RAM.
#2251 [21:10] * Elystus actually created a program that does that this morning >_>
#2251 [21:10] <blakeh> awesome.
#2252 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> .. Or Elystus will.
#2253 [21:11] <blakeh> ive always wanted to create programs and such like this xD
#2254 [21:11] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Its pretty much 10 lines of C++
#2255 [21:12] <blakeh> basically easy work? :)
#2256 [21:12] <Elystus> yea
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#2258 [21:12] <blakeh> i plan to get my computer science degree ha
#2259 [21:12] <Elystus> I am creating programs to fix common minecraft problems. :/
#2260 [21:12] <blakeh> should i restart my pc now or later?
#2261 [21:12] <Elystus> after you have installed the new driver
#2262 [21:13] <blakeh> ok be back
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#2264 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: I'm told by an admin at minecraftwiki.net that if we make that troubleshooting page more like a tutorial, we can move it out of my personal area and in to a more official location
#2265 [21:18] <teetor314> ?
#2266 [21:18] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2266 [21:18] <teetor314> ?
#2267 [21:18] <teetor314> ............
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#2269 [21:18] <GreyVulpine> Please don't spam
#2270 [21:18] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I have overly elaborated versions of your stuff.
#2271 [21:18] <Elystus> >_>
#2272 [21:18] <teetor314> sorry the key stuck
#2273 [21:18] <blakeh> didnt work, here is what minecraft says after i get to the done loading screen http://pastebin.com/ucAVf2T1
#2274 [21:18] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Who did you ask?
#2275 [21:18] <Elystus> Citric?
#2276 [21:19] * GreyVulpine points Elystus at blakeh
#2276 [21:19] <Elystus> okay, give me a moment to compile the code.
#2277 [21:19] <blakeh> take your time.
#2278 [21:20] <teetor314> does anyone need help with program stuff
#2279 [21:20] <teetor314> on mc
#2280 [21:20] <teetor314> or is it all web issues atm
#2281 [21:20] <GreyVulpine> teetor314 - Stick around and find out.
#2282 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> I moved it over myself, but it was moved back again by an admin there called ultradude25
#2283 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> Here's where I enquired about things, and received a good response http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Ultradude25#Troubleshooting
#2284 [21:28] <Elystus> Sorry it took so long, the compiler was sending it to a weird place. Had to search for the exe on my computer.
#2285 [21:28] <Elystus> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Minecraft_memory.exe
#2286 [21:28] <blakeh> no prob :)
#2287 [21:29] <Elystus> When you start the program, it will as you to imput a number. Put 512 as the number
#2288 [21:29] <Elystus> It will create a batch file. just move that to where ever you keep your launcher.
#2289 [21:29] <blakeh> application has failed to start because MSVCP100D.dll was not found.
#2290 [21:30] <Elystus> .-.
#2291 [21:31] <Elystus> I didn't give you the release version, I gave you the debug version >_>
#2292 [21:32] <blakeh> huh? lol i feel stupid atm
#2293 [21:32] <Elystus> basically, I screwed up. :P
#2294 [21:33] <blakeh> lol ahhh,
#2295 [21:33] <Elystus> It will just be easier to have you make a batch file.
#2296 [21:33] <Elystus> open notepad and put this in
#2297 [21:33] <Elystus> javaw -Xmx512m -Xms512m -jar Minecraft.exe
#2298 [21:33] <blakeh> alright
#2299 [21:33] <blakeh> done
#2300 [21:34] <Elystus> then go to save as and put in minecraft.bat. Then below, change file type to all files
#2301 [21:34] <blakeh> leave encoding to ANSI
#2302 [21:34] <blakeh> ?
#2303 [21:34] <Elystus> then save it and move the batch file to whereever your launcher is.
#2304 [21:34] <Elystus> yea
#2305 [21:35] <blakeh> i only have an icon to start minecraft do i drag it onto that?
#2306 [21:35] <Elystus> yes
#2307 [21:37] <blakeh> woo, thank you Ely!
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#2309 [21:37] <blakeh> its going to be laggy as heck i see ):
#2310 [21:37] <Elystus> starts laptop, somehow gets logged in.
#2311 [21:38] <Elystus> Elystus131 is my laptop.
#2312 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, going to need to turn down some of the graphics
#2313 [21:38] <GreyVulpine> Your computer isn't exactly 'new' by any measure of the word. Minecraft will run, just not well.
#2314 [21:38] <blakeh> prob to low on all?
#2315 [21:38] * GreyVulpine nods
#2315 [21:38] <Elystus> yes
#2316 [21:38] <blakeh> yeah, its like 3+ years old haha
#2317 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Judging by the video driver date, more like 8
#2318 [21:39] <Elystus> heh, I forgot that all my creations will be flagged by antiviruses
#2319 [21:39] * GreyVulpine claps.
#2319 [21:40] <Elystus> Yay for not being know! :D
#2320 [21:40] <Elystus> known*
#2321 [21:40] <blakeh> lol. nice, and its my gma pc soooo, ill save $$ for a better one
#2322 [21:40] <blakeh> should performance be on for the fps? idk what is low and such ( i feel dumb for a change)
#2323 [21:41] <Elystus> max fps
#2324 [21:42] <blakeh> part to mini?
#2325 [21:42] <Elystus> yea
#2326 [21:43] <blakeh> render to short?
#2327 [21:43] <Elystus> yep
#2328 [21:43] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Should I make the program ask if you would like minecraft's setting to be put on the lowest possible?
#2329 [21:43] <Elystus> and have it do it obviously. :P
#2330 [21:44] <blakeh> if ud wish :)
#2331 [21:44] <Elystus> btw, blakeh. Would you mind testing it in release mode?
#2332 [21:45] <GreyVulpine> Elystus - Would be nice. I typically do -Xms256M -Xmx256M
#2333 [21:45] <blakeh> i could yeah
#2334 [21:45] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: As of now it asks how much you would like the batch file to have. But I mean video setting such as fog and particles and such.
#2335 [21:45] * GreyVulpine nods
#2335 [21:46] <Elystus> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Minecraft_memory.exe
#2336 [21:46] <Elystus> seems to work on my laptop.
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#2338 [21:48] <blakeh> how much memory should i put? since im only on .99 gigs lol
#2339 [21:48] <Elystus> anything.
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#2342 [21:48] <ely> Why does that keep happening :/
#2343 [21:48] <ely> Put 128 or something.
#2344 [21:48] <blakeh> 150 lol
#2345 [21:50] <blakeh> but 150 and cant even play the game now
#2346 [21:50] <its> What the heck is my irc doing >_>
#2347 [21:51] <its> okay, do it again but go back to 512
#2348 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Use 256 or 512
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#2350 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> What is your client doing?
#2351 [21:51] <its> keeps disconnecting me
#2352 [21:51] <GreyVulpine> Careful you don't trip esper's connection limit
#2353 [21:51] <Elystus> They have one?
#2354 [21:51] * GreyVulpine nods
#2354 [21:52] <Elystus> It says OnReceivedData Exception Error:Unable to read data from the transport connection: An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine."
#2355 [21:52] <blakeh> now its giving me a bad drivers again...
#2356 [21:52] <Elystus> are you using the batch?
#2357 [21:52] <blakeh> yes.
#2358 [21:52] <Elystus> Odd, do you have the original batch still?
#2359 [21:53] <blakeh> i should
#2360 [21:53] <Elystus> the one that it worked on?
#2361 [21:53] <Elystus> see if that works.
#2362 [21:53] <Echo_off_MC> Help
#2363 [21:54] <blakeh> yeah the orginal works @ 512
#2364 [21:55] <Elystus> blakeh: What did you put for the last one?
#2365 [21:55] <blakeh> 256
#2366 [21:55] <Elystus> try 512
#2367 [21:55] <Echo_off_MC> when i try to join a server, it says: disconnected You are banned from this server! Reason: Threatening the female users that you will raipe them. Why cont it work??????
#2368 [21:55] <blakeh> it works on 512
#2369 [21:56] <Elystus> blakeh: Okay, I should add a line that says 512 is recommended.
#2370 [21:56] <blakeh> but then again, i have a old timer tower xD
#2371 [21:56] <Elystus> Echo_off_MC: You have been banned from the server for your bad actions.
#2372 [21:56] <Echo_off_MC> its wass my favorit sever i played on it all over the dayzzz
#2373 [21:56] <Elystus> Which means that you cannot connect unless someone unbans you.
#2374 [21:57] <Echo_off_MC> all i did wassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss shift the gears
#2375 [21:58] <Echo_off_MC> what is banned?
#2376 [21:58] <blakeh> well am i needed for anything else? :P
#2377 [21:59] <Echo_off_MC> wat is a ban
#2378 [21:59] * Elystus pulls out a rather large needle
#2378 [21:59] <Echo_off_MC> were it go?
#2379 [21:59] <Elystus> blakeh: Just your blood samples
#2380 [21:59] <blakeh> well, if u insist, lol!
#2381 [21:59] <Elystus> blakeh: Lol, no more is needed of you. :)
#2382 [21:59] <Elystus> thanks :P
#2383 [21:59] <blakeh> thanks for the help ely, appreciate it all!
#2384 [22:00] <Elystus> You're welcome :)
#2385 [22:00] <Echo_off_MC> does ban meen op??
#2386 [22:00] <blakeh> and that other guy that helped me out too..
#2387 [22:00] <blakeh> grey thanks :)
#2388 [22:00] <Echo_off_MC> can u here me?
#2389 [22:01] <blakeh> Enjoy the rest of your day Ely or night, which ever time it is.
#2390 [22:01] <Elystus> Echo_off_MC: Yes we can hear you. There is nothing that we can do. YOu need to contact your servers administration.
#2391 [22:01] <Elystus> blakeh: Good night :)
#2392 [22:02] <Echo_off_MC> y it u name redd
#2393 [22:02] <Echo_off_MC> u oop
#2394 [22:02] <Echo_off_MC> ????
#2395 [22:03] <Elystus> Because I pinged you I believe
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#2397 [22:03] <Echo_off_MC> dont curse!!!!!!
#2398 [22:03] <Echo_off_MC> bad word!
#2399 [22:03] <Elystus> What was the bad word I said?
#2400 [22:03] <Echo_off_MC> ping
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#2402 [22:03] <Elystus> That is not a bad word .-.
#2403 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> That's not a bad word.
#2404 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> !def ping
#2405 [22:04] <GreyBot> Word: ping [ping]
#2406 [22:04] <Echo_off_MC> u mademe sayit!
#2407 [22:04] <GreyBot> Noun:  A sharp, high-pitched sound, as that made by a bullet striking metal.
#2408 [22:04] <GreyBot> Noun:  See knock.
#2409 [22:04] * GreyVulpine points ^
#2409 [22:04] * Echo_off_MC ops Elystus
#2409 [22:04] * Echo_off_MC barfs a op cookie at Elystus
#2409 [22:05] <Elystus> ...
#2410 [22:05] * Echo_off_MC Elystus picks up the cookie and is opped by meeeeeeeeeeee
#2410 [22:05] * GreyVulpine shrugs and sighs
#2410 [22:05] <Elystus> :O
#2411 [22:05] <Echo_off_MC> I opped u
#2412 [22:06] <Echo_off_MC> u wecome
#2413 [22:06] * Elystus hugs GreyVulpine
#2413 [22:06] * Echo_off_MC kisses GreyVulpine to cheer him/her up
#2413 [22:06] * Echo_off_MC wishes he didn't say that
#2413 [22:07] * GreyVulpine heads off for work. \o
#2413 [22:07] <Elystus> o/ cya
#2414 [22:07] * Echo_off_MC shoots his tires out
#2414 [22:07] * Echo_off_MC greys*
#2414 [22:08] <Elystus> Echo_off_MC: Calm down with the /me spam please.
#2415 [22:08] * Echo_off_MC understands his wrongs and is not going to use the /me anymore except this one last time. one also is currently ripping the / key off my keyboard
#2415 [22:09] <Echo_off_MC> afegrszhtejxrykdtfy
#2416 [22:09] <Echo_off_MC> sorry
#2417 [22:09] <Echo_off_MC> im done wit /me
#2418 [22:09] <Echo_off_MC> grey were do u work?
#2419 [22:09] <Elystus> Stop spamming.
#2420 [22:09] <Echo_off_MC> on the mooooooooon wit naza?
#2421 [22:10] <Echo_off_MC> stop hammertime
#2422 [22:10] * Andrio takes out a hammer.
#2422 [22:11] <Echo_off_MC> i want to use realizes he cant type a slash
#2423 [22:12] <Echo_off_MC> http://tinyurl.com/hammertimesign
#2424 [22:12] <Elystus> Echo_off_MC: please stop spamming the channel.
#2425 [22:12] <Echo_off_MC> yes sir
#2426 [22:13] <Echo_off_MC> i will leave
#2427 [22:13] <Wug> GreyVulpine: you job get?
#2428 [22:13] <Elystus> thank you.
#2429 [22:13] <Echo_off_MC> http://tinyurl.com/qwerty4u my last thanks are on that site please accept my sorrow
#2430 [22:13] <Echo_off_MC> have a nice penis
#2431 [22:13] <Echo_off_MC> BAN
#2432 [22:14] <Elystus> Wug, can we get a kick over here.
#2433 [22:14] <Wug> Echo_off_MC: you have been warned once
#2434 [22:14] <Wug> pleas keep discussion relevant and on topic
#2435 [22:14] <Wug> (i.e. try to be helpful to people who need help)
#2436 [22:16] * xales is less lenient
#2436 [22:16] * xales kicked Echo_off_MC from #minecrafthelp (Reason: cho_off_MC :Go away)
#2437 [22:16] <DiskDaemon> \o/
#2438 [22:16] <Elystus> \o/
#2439 [22:18] <Andrio> what's \o/?
#2440 [22:18] <Elystus> Its a person with their hands in the air.
#2441 [22:18] * xales -> bed
#2441 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> o/ is commonly used to wave, or request a high five, with \o answering it :)
#2442 [22:19] <Elystus> o/
#2443 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> \o
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#2446 [22:27] <computerproblem> hey for some reason my mc is very zoomed in when i play now how do i fix this?
#2447 [22:29] <ederpro0010> server.jar minecraft not running, open ms-dos
#2448 [22:29] <computerproblem> ms-dos?
#2449 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> computerproblem: Do you mind if we see a screenshot of the problem?
#2450 [22:30] <computerproblem> no just how do i show it :D?
#2451 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> You can use F2 to safe a screenshot
#2452 [22:30] <DiskDaemon> *save
#2453 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> and then you can upload it to an image sharing site, such as imgur.com
#2454 [22:35] <ederpro0010> hi
#2455 [22:36] <Elystus> Hello :)
#2456 [22:36] <Elystus> 512
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#2459 [22:41] <ederpro0010> minecraft server.jar running open ms-dos
#2460 [22:41] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Would you like to be the first to test my program that automatically creates a batch file to the desktop?
#2461 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> sure
#2462 [22:41] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Minecraft_memory.exe
#2463 [22:41] <Mikey_> I am unable to update my game and i tried playing in browser.
#2464 [22:41] <Elystus> Mikey_: What happens?
#2465 [22:41] <Elystus> does it just freeze partway through the download?
#2466 [22:41] <Mikey_> yes, and online won't load
#2467 [22:41] <Elystus> Mikey_: Do you have AVG?
#2468 [22:41] <Mikey_> yes
#2469 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. You can temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#2470 [22:41] <Elystus> Disable the link scanner
#2471 [22:41] <Mikey_> oh... ok >//< lol thanks
#2472 [22:44] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: "The program can't start mecause MSVCP100.dll is missing from your computer. ..."
#2473 [22:44] <Elystus> I did it again .-.
#2474 [22:44] <Elystus> I gave you the debug edition lol
#2475 [22:44] <Elystus> Give me a moment.
#2476 [22:44] <ederpro0010> run minecraft server.jar and open ms-dos http://imgur.com/XXc38
#2477 [22:44] <Andrio> Elystus, weird things seem to happen if you type something that isn't a number.
#2478 [22:44] <Andrio> It turns 'A' into '530'
#2479 [22:44] <Elystus> Andrio: Thats because its only supposed to be numbers
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#2481 [22:44] <Andrio> yeah I know
#2482 [22:44] <Elystus> Andrio: How
#2483 [22:45] <Andrio> uhh... double-click?
#2484 [22:45] <Elystus> Hold on...
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#2486 [22:45] <Mikey_> No, avg is fully down and i still freeze
#2487 [22:45] <Elystus131> I am going to test it on this comp. (aka, my laptop.
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#2489 [22:46] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Seems to work on my laptop. Which doesn't have visual basic installed
#2490 [22:46] <Elystus> Try this one: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Minecraft_memory.exe
#2491 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I'm using a clean install of Windows 7, with Java installed so that Minecraft works.
#2492 [22:47] <Andrio> Well this computer _does_ have Visual Basic installed, so that would explain things.
#2493 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: In effect, I'm using the simplest possible environment in which Minecraft normally works :)
#2494 [22:47] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Did you try the new link I just gave?
#2495 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> It's the same link, isn't it? Or has its contents been updated?
#2496 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I've just tried it, and get the same MSVCP100.dll error
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#2498 [22:50] <ely> I need to figure out waht is going on with that...
#2499 [22:50] <ely> what*
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#2502 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Are you able to duplicate the issue on a clean install of Windows? XP, Vista, 7, or otherwise?
#2503 [22:53] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Which issue? The java one?
#2504 [22:53] <Mikey_> AVG is not blocking updating
#2505 [22:53] <h3ck_y3a> My minecraft wont load it says done loading but still will not load. I play minecraft on a mac by the way. I have tried deleting minecraft and re installing it and it still wont work I have deleted everything in my minecraft folder and opened up minecraft but it still wont work. Any help please?
#2506 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> The dll one
#2507 [22:53] <Elystus> Mikey_: Stop all antiviruses and firewalss.
#2508 [22:53] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Let me try
#2509 [22:53] <Mikey_> i did fully stop AVG
#2510 [22:54] <Elystus> Mikey_: Check in task manager under processes
#2511 [22:54] <mickster04> !paid h3ck_y3a:
#2512 [22:54] <mickster04> h3ck_y3a: what's not working about it
#2513 [22:55] <h3ck_y3a> When I try opening up minecraft it stays at done loading and does not open up.
#2514 [22:55] <h3ck_y3a> And I have paid for minecraft
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#2516 [22:55] <Elystus> h3ck_y3a: is there grey and html code where the news panel is.
#2517 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> h3ck_y3a: What is your minecraft username?
#2518 [22:56] <h3ck_y3a> My minecraft username is h3ck_y3a
#2519 [22:56] <h3ck_y3a> I play on a mac
#2520 [22:56] <h3ck_y3a> Mac OS X*
#2521 [22:56] <Mikey_> The only process is the tray application, none others
#2522 [22:56] <Elystus> Mikey_: AVG tray?
#2523 [22:56] <Mikey_> yes, and its system protected
#2524 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> !paid h3ck_y3a
#2525 [22:57] <bmck> can you change your email on minecraft ? i feel like some one knows my email
#2526 [22:57] <bmck> and i forgot my email name
#2527 [22:57] <h3ck_y3a> Yes I have paid for minecraft.
#2528 [22:57] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: It does not seem to work from a clean install of windows.
#2529 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> bmck: Yes, you can change your emial
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#2531 [22:58] <bmck> were do i change my email
#2532 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Okay, test with that and get back to me when it works :)
#2533 [22:58] <h3ck_y3a> I think this link might help bmck http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#2534 [22:58] <Andrio> DiskDaemon, Elystus, have you got the .NET framework installed? That's likely the issue.
#2535 [22:58] <mickster04> h3ck_y3a: did you also remove the user info (in windows there is stuff under the user/.appdata/minecraft(sic) folder)
#2536 [22:59] <h3ck_y3a> On the mac I did remove it
#2537 [22:59] <h3ck_y3a> I do not have windows
#2538 [22:59] <Elystus> Andrio: it is a fresh install of windows, so no.
#2539 [22:59] <mickster04> h3ck_y3a: yeah i know you dn't but i don't know what the equivalent was for macs
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#2541 [22:59] <Jackson413> !login]
#2542 [22:59] <Jackson413> !isdown
#2543 [22:59] <GreyBot> Jackson413: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#2544 [23:00] <Andrio> Well, I'm pretty sure that programs created with Visual Studio .NET or any later version, need the corresponding .NET framework version installed.
#2545 [23:00] <Jackson413> !check pvp.manlyminecraft.net
#2546 [23:00] <DiskDaemon> Andrio: I'm testing it on a clean windows installation with Java installed. If his .exe file requires something else, this is a good way to find out
#2547 [23:00] <Jackson413> !check 69.27.127.193
#2548 [23:00] <h3ck_y3a> I deleted everything from my minecraft folder
#2549 [23:01] <h3ck_y3a> And opened up minecraft again and still it did not work
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#2551 [23:01] <h3ck_y3a> It stayed at done loading
#2552 [23:01] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Yea, you need the .net framework. Which is installed with pretty much everything these days,
#2553 [23:01] <mickster04> h3ck_y3a: you delete everything, uninstall the program. restart your mac, then re-download and install again
#2554 [23:01] <Kass> Hey grey you on?
#2555 [23:01] <mickster04> h3ck_y3a: what java are you using?
#2556 [23:01] <Elystus> Kass: He is at work. What do you need.
#2557 [23:02] <h3ck_y3a> Oh I didnt restart my mac :P I will tell you if it works! Thanks!
#2558 [23:02] <Kass> help with opening a server to the public
#2559 [23:02] <mickster04> kass screw driver? ;)
#2560 [23:02] <Kass> already got the external ip now need some help
#2561 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Good. We can add that to our notes for if anyone has issues about that
#2562 [23:02] <Kass> xales its Triggerdusk
#2563 [23:02] <Kass> long time no see
#2564 [23:03] <Kass> so can someone help me out?
#2565 [23:04] <Elystus> Kass: What exactly do you need help with.
#2566 [23:04] <mickster04> kass do you have acces to your router?
#2567 [23:04] <Elystus> Ports?
#2568 [23:04] <Kass> port forwarding yes
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#2570 [23:05] <Elystus> what is your model and make of the router?
#2571 [23:05] <Kass> what are the ports?
#2572 [23:05] <mickster04> !ports
#2573 [23:05] <mickster04> worth a shot :p
#2574 [23:05] <Kass> got there now i need the port numbers plz
#2575 [23:05] <mickster04> there is just one port number
#2576 [23:06] <Kass> and?
#2577 [23:06] <mickster04> !localhost
#2578 [23:06] <mickster04> !check
#2579 [23:06] <mickster04> 25565
#2580 [23:06] <Mikey_> AVG is not blocking updates, and this is a first time issue with being unable to update both with the launcher and by going to the in browser
#2581 [23:06] <Kass> thanks :3
#2582 [23:06] <Kass> lol dont use AVG
#2583 [23:07] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Do you think that Mikey_ could be having a hosts file problem?
#2584 [23:07] <Mikey_> i get licensed free >..<
#2585 [23:07] <Kass> use microsocft security essentials it doesnt use outdated virus info like AVG does
#2586 [23:07] <Kass> plus its free as well and gives real time protection
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#2588 [23:08] <Jackson413> b8sc2i4egb7p77xa
#2589 [23:08] <h3ck_y3a> Didnt work :-(
#2590 [23:08] <Kass> anywho thanks guys
#2591 [23:08] <h3ck_y3a> It still stays at done loading
#2592 [23:08] <h3ck_y3a> I deleted everything
#2593 [23:09] <h3ck_y3a> Restarted my mac
#2594 [23:09] <h3ck_y3a> Re installed the program and still wont work
#2595 [23:09] <mickster04> h3ck_y3a: did you re-download the installer?
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#2597 [23:12] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Were you testing it in a virtual machine before?
#2598 [23:12] <Mikey_> Hosts file is blank
#2599 [23:12] <Elystus> Mikey_: O.o
#2600 [23:12] <Popm4n> Do you guys help with xbox related issues with minecraft?
#2601 [23:12] <Elystus> Popm4n: This channel supports pc minecraft only.
#2602 [23:13] <Popm4n> Damn
#2603 [23:13] <Popm4n> Damn
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#2605 [23:13] <Elystus> I have to go guys. I will be back in about half an hour.
#2606 [23:13] <Andrio> o/
#2607 [23:14] <h3ck_y3a> Yes I did
#2608 [23:14] <h3ck_y3a> I re installed minecraft
#2609 [23:14] <h3ck_y3a> Opened it up and got "Done loading"
#2610 [23:14] <h3ck_y3a> And it just stayed there
#2611 [23:15] <mickster04> oh
#2612 [23:15] <mickster04> not sure then
#2613 [23:15] <mickster04> sorry
#2614 [23:15] <h3ck_y3a> Hahaha Thanks anyways
#2615 [23:15] <Mikey_> try loading it from the browser first
#2616 [23:16] <h3ck_y3a> Ok
#2617 [23:16] <h3ck_y3a> So open minecraft from the browser?
#2618 [23:16] <Mikey_> yah
#2619 [23:17] <Mikey_> sadly it isn't working from here... that used to be the solution to update issues from the client
#2620 [23:17] <h3ck_y3a> Wait I am getting 500 iternal server error -_-
#2621 [23:18] <Mikey_> something must be up from their end .. ugh
#2622 [23:18] <h3ck_y3a> K it opened now
#2623 [23:19] <mickster04> minecraft works here
#2624 [23:19] <mickster04> (NZ)
#2625 [23:20] <Mikey_> When did minecraft browser player go anti-firefox?
#2626 [23:20] <h3ck_y3a> Yeh minecraft still isnt opening. Even in browser :/
#2627 [23:20] <h3ck_y3a> I think I give up :(
#2628 [23:20] <Mikey_> it opened for me in IE but not Firefox
#2629 [23:21] <Mikey_> and i'm updated now
#2630 [23:23] <DiskDaemon> Elystus|afk: yes, in a virtual machine. That won't cause any issues with the sort of things that are being tested
#2631 [23:25] <Mikey_> well, thanks anyways, but i solved my own problem
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#2634 [23:58] <slowfi> it's confusing how some multiplayer servers alter the physics of water and lava