#1 [00:00] <DopeGhoti> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner%27s_guide
#2 [00:00] <skyboy> i'll accept money!
#3 [00:00] <skyboy> in all sizes and forms and nationalities
#4 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> Kzack: A beginenrs guide, perhaps?
#5 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner's_guide
#6 [00:00] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: /me points up
#7 [00:00] <Kzack> if you have babies that would be great too
#8 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> ??+ ssp/guide|http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner%27s_guide
#9 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> Babies are expensive.
#10 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> and messy.
#11 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> ninja'd :)
#12 [00:01] <DopeGhoti> and loud.
#13 [00:02] <skyboy> loud like over 1 million TNT?
#14 [00:03] <DopeGhoti> depends on the speakers involved.
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#21 [00:09] <homedog212> can someone help?
#22 [00:09] <homedog212> i need help with mods someone plz
#23 [00:09] <skyboy> ??> homedog212 mods
#24 [00:10] <RobTheAwesome> What mod?
#25 [00:10] <VoxelHead> homedog212: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#26 [00:10] <VoxelHead> homedog212: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#27 [00:10] <homedog212> ty voxel
#28 [00:10] <Snorg2> hey guys I tried to reinstall and configure my video drivers and I'm pretty sure i got it right - ran glxgears with 8.5-8.6k fps
#29 [00:10] <Snorg2> why else would minecraft not start up
#30 [00:11] <skyboy> try deleting the client's bin
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#33 [00:13] <Jwerner34> I tried to download a mod, PokeMobs, and Now my minecraft screen stays black when I open it.
#34 [00:14] <skyboy> Jwerner34: delete the minecraft.jar
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#36 [00:14] <DiskDaemon> Jwerner34: I'm sorry but we don't support mods here
#37 [00:14] <Jwerner34> I dont have that i will check again
#38 [00:14] <Guest> damn cuz i cant figure this out haha
#39 [00:15] <MandaPanda> I am looking for my mine craft screen shots. I searched for my mine craft folder in my application support but it isn't there
#40 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#41 [00:15] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#42 [00:15] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#43 [00:15] <skyboy> MandaPanda: they're in .minecraft/screenshots
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#45 [00:19] <Jwerner34> whats that? is it in the bin?
#46 [00:19] <skyboy> it's an antivirus
#47 [00:19] <Jwerner34> i dont think so, i have antiviruses
#48 [00:19] <skyboy> DiskDaemon: take over, i have food on the stove
#49 [00:20] <Snorg2> anyone know what this is means: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /home/brad/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: /home/brad/.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
#50 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> Jwerner34: I'm sorry, can you catch me up with the situation?
#51 [00:21] <Snorg2> why is it calling a 32 thing?
#52 [00:21] <Jwerner34> deleted minecraft.jar, stuck at uploading screen
#53 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> Snorg2: see http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Wrong_ELF_class:_ELFCLASS32
#54 [00:21] <Snorg2> <3 thx
#55 [00:21] <Jwerner34> oh nvm i force updated it, thanks and tell skyboy i said thx!
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#63 [00:50] <youngcashflo> hello
#64 [00:50] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#65 [00:50] <youngcashflo> i am having issues buying the game
#66 [00:51] <youngcashflo> it said my card purchases have been disabled for 24 hours
#67 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> What details can you give about what card was used?
#68 [00:51] <youngcashflo> also i bought it as a gift and received no confirmation email or gift code
#69 [00:52] <youngcashflo> it was originally a visa debit card
#70 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> youngcashflo: Please check your bank account. If the transaction is not seen there, nothing has been purchased.
#71 [00:53] <youngcashflo> and then i tried another card which was a master card credit card and i received the same message, that card purchases were disabled for my account for 24 hours
#72 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> The "This card has been disabled for 24 hours" is a moneybookers policy
#73 [00:53] <GreyVulpine> Try paypal.
#74 [00:54] <youngcashflo> i cheeked both accounts and no charge has posted on either account
#75 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> youngcashflo: Mojang provide this information that may help http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#76 [00:55] <youngcashflo> i don't want to try 3 different accounts and the see 3 charges on each account 2 days from now
#77 [00:56] <DiskDaemon> youngcashflo: Mojang can resolve that issue if it occurs
#78 [00:56] <youngcashflo> i am also using safari on a mac if that makes any difference
#79 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> It does not. Try using paypal.
#80 [00:58] <DiskDaemon> Paypal cannot be used for purchasing gift codes.
#81 [00:59] <youngcashflo> i actually tried with the visa card twice, so if i see 3 charges and the receive all gift codes 2-5 days from now will i be able to get my money back?
#82 [00:59] <DiskDaemon> youngcashflo: Yes you will.
#83 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329760-i%E2%80%99ve-been-charged-more-than-once-
#84 [01:00] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329760-i%E2%80%99ve-been-charged-more-than-once-
#85 [01:00] <Snorg2> hey guys i followed the jlwgl suggestion and now - it loads the menu system but it doesn't load when i connect to the server
#86 [01:00] <youngcashflo> okay thank you very much, one last question
#87 [01:00] <Elystus> Snorg2: What does it say when you try to connect?
#88 [01:01] <Snorg2> 23:59:59 [INFO] Read timed out
#89 [01:01] <Snorg2> from the server console
#90 [01:01] <Elystus> I mean in the client
#91 [01:01] <Snorg2> the client just turns black and then grey and I hit connect to server
#92 [01:02] <youngcashflo> the gift is for my sister, if i log in to her account with her username/password and buy the game from my computer using paypal will she be able to log in from hers, download the game and play on her computer???
#93 [01:02] <Elystus> Snorg2: It turns black and grey after you click connect?
#94 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> youngcashflo - Yes
#95 [01:02] <Snorg2> it works in single player
#96 [01:02] <Snorg2> ely: yes
#97 [01:03] <Elystus> Snorg2: For some reason the client is crashing. Go to this link and follow the directions for generating an error report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
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#102 [01:41] <mrAshley> When trying to open my local game to LAN I'm told that my IP address is 169.254.165.174 which doesn't make sense, since that's a WIFI connection IP address, and isn't my IP address in any case. What can I do?
#103 [01:42] <mrAshley> I'm using 12w30c
#104 [01:43] <Elystus> mrAshley: That ip is your local ipv4 address, you use that to port forward. The ip from whatismyip.com or ipchicken.com is your external ipv4 address (the one people use to connect to you).
#105 [01:44] <mrAshley> Elystus - my ip address is 192.168.1.50. i'm using wifi.. those 169.x addresses aren't real ip addresses. they're specially reserved for connecting to wifi.
#106 [01:44] <Elystus> Oh, I read the ip wrong :P
#107 [01:45] <Elystus> mrAshley: I am unclear as to what you are trying to accomplish. Are you trying to connect to a server that you own?
#108 [01:45] <mrAshley> Elystus: i'm trying to open my game to another person on my LAN.
#109 [01:46] <Elystus> mrAshley: Is this xbox or pc?
#110 [01:46] <mrAshley> pc
#111 [01:46] <Elystus> okay, you have downloaded the minecraft_server.exe correct?
#112 [01:46] <mrAshley> nope.
#113 [01:47] <mrAshley> i'm using the minecraft.exe with the updated .jar file (12w30c)
#114 [01:47] <mrAshley> and i'm trying to use the open to lan feature.
#115 [01:47] <Elystus> We don't support the snapshots here.
#116 [01:48] <mrAshley> That's why I mentioned it earlier. ^.^ that's okay. Do you know where I might get help?
#117 [01:49] <Elystus> Oh, I am blind tonight lol.
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#119 [01:50] <Elystus> I have no idea where you could get support for the snapshots.
#120 [01:56] <mrAshley> Elystus: okay. thanks for your time. :)
#121 [01:56] <mrAshley> Elystus: okay. thanks for your time. :)
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#123 [02:03] <Moose> [22:42] <Elystus> mrAshley: That ip is your local ipv4 address, you use that to port forward. The ip from whatismyip.com or ipchicken.com is your external ipv4 address (the one people use to connect to you).
#124 [02:03] <Elystus> shut up >_>
#125 [02:03] <Moose> or a simpler minimalistic one: http://mooseelkingtons.com/ip.php
#126 [02:04] <Elystus> Its not simple until you make it size 60 font and center it.
#127 [02:04] <Elystus> 110 font*
#128 [02:06] <Moose> why 110
#129 [02:07] <Elystus> easier for people to see
#130 [02:07] <Elystus> Some people miss what is right in front of them.
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#133 [02:16] <skyboy> i fucking hate when youtube videos use random images to portray the lyrics. i hate more when they use flashing colors for no damned reason. i will murder whoever COMBINED them in this video.
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#137 [02:17] <skyboy> right.
#138 [02:17] <skyboy> but still, my statement stands
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#140 [02:23] <Elystus> .-. what...
#141 [02:24] <skyboy> Elystus: swapping between primary colors every frame
#142 [02:26] <Elystus> oh >_>
#143 [02:26] * Elystus makes a video that does that
#143 [02:26] <skyboy> i will end you.
#144 [02:27] * Elystus insert corny C++ joke here
#144 [02:27] <Elystus> Oh the song that tells me I have been listening to this playlist for 3 hours came on! \o/
#145 [02:27] <Elystus> 3rd time today.
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#154 [04:48] <dudehammer78> hello anyone here? i was wondering, i'm running windows XP 64 bit. i'm trying to install my minecraft mod and am having trouble finding the jar folder i found the jar file it's in the bin folder. but there's no minecraft.jar folder.
#155 [04:48] <dudehammer78> do i just throw all those files in with the minecraft.jar?
#156 [04:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#157 [04:48] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#158 [04:48] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#159 [04:48] <Helloman892> Oh, I missed my 3rd question... DAMN.
#160 [04:49] <Andrio> dudehammer78, open minecraft.jar with 7-zip or WinRAR, and paste the mod files into that.
#161 [04:49] <Wug> don't extract it. just open it.
#162 [04:49] <Andrio> ^
#163 [04:50] <Andrio> ??> dudehammer78 dont/pm
#164 [04:50] <VoxelHead> dudehammer78: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#165 [04:51] <dudehammer78> ah sorry thanks soo...it's like a java file or something? it doesn't have the open with option.
#166 [04:51] <Helloman892> It's a .jar.
#167 [04:51] <Andrio> yeah, I'm not sure if Windows XP has that.
#168 [04:51] <Helloman892> If you have WinRAR or 7zip/equivalent, then open a window of one of them.
#169 [04:52] <Helloman892> Then, just drag minecraft.jar into it.
#170 [04:52] <Helloman892> Should work, or just use 'File/Open'.
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#172 [04:56] <dudehammer78> i'm thinking that was successful thank you all very much that was a little confusing but i think it will work out.
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#174 [05:00] <Knight2000> Hello
#175 [05:02] <Knight2000> I have a problem: If i want to start Minecraft, it says that it can not find a OpenGL... I use Windows 8
#176 [05:02] <DopeGhoti> Windows 8 isn't a complete product yet, and isn't supported. That said, try updating your GPU drivers.
#177 [05:03] <skyboy> that won't help
#178 [05:04] <Knight2000> I know that Windows 8 is not completed... But i thoght somebody know what to do
#179 [05:04] <skyboy> yes: wait until windows 8 is released so the proper drivers can be released for it
#180 [05:04] <Knight2000> then, i have a problem
#181 [05:04] <skyboy> until them, don't use prerelease products of any kind
#182 [05:05] <skyboy> s/m/n/
#183 [05:05] <Knight2000> or i install ubuntu on this computer and play Minecraft with Ubuntu and do the other work with Win 8 ^^
#184 [05:06] <skyboy> if you're not an experienced *nix user, then we will see you tomorrow
#185 [05:06] <skyboy> until then, i'm going to bed
#186 [05:07] <Knight2000> I use Linux on my own server, and two of my PCs I know how to use Unix^^
#187 [05:07] <Knight2000> oh... he has left...
#188 [05:08] <Knight2000> ok. bye^^
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#190 [05:09] <bobd0le> Hi guys, I know mc 1.3 is due to be released on the 1st of August, how much after that do you think we'll see a stable version of bukkit?
#191 [05:09] <bobd0le> Do the bukkit devs get the code early to work with?
#192 [05:11] <Necrodoom> bobd0le: yes
#193 [05:11] <Necrodoom> bobd0le: but stable version of bukkit comes when it comes
#194 [05:11] <Necrodoom> bobd0le: so: soon
#195 [05:12] <bobd0le> So its likely to not take a few weeks since they've got pre-access to the code, ja?
#196 [05:12] <Necrodoom> you can never know
#197 [05:12] <Necrodoom> but it mostly took up to a week or so
#198 [05:13] <bobd0le> awesomeawesome
#199 [05:13] <bobd0le> ty Necrodoom
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#201 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> ?? snapshot
#202 [05:31] <VoxelHead> snapshot: Latest snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w30b/minecraft.jar
#203 [05:31] <GreyVulpine> ??~ snapshot|Latest Snapshot is http://assets.minecraft.net/12w30d/minecraft.jar
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#207 [05:48] <Gman9100> HI guys... My friend is having trouble buying minecraft via his paypal-account. Any thoughts?
#208 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> What is the trouble?
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#210 [05:51] <Gman9100> Paypal informs us that the transaction has failed. We checked the balance of the account, which was sufficient (€20.00) and no other information was provided.
#211 [05:54] <TheNoodle> I've had this trouble before, I think I just gave up in the end
#212 [05:55] <Gman9100> That's nice to know...
#213 [05:59] <DiskDaemon> Gman9100: I think that you would have to contact paypal themself about why they denied the transaction. Have they mentioned why yet?
#214 [05:59] <Gman9100> no, and as always, no information was given.
#215 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> Then contact them Do you know how?
#216 [06:02] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/9zenw.jpg
#217 [06:04] <Gman9100> I've already sent them a request to know why...
#218 [06:04] <Gman9100> guess i'll have to wait then...
#219 [06:04] <Gman9100> guess i'll have to wait then...
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#225 [07:38] <Rikairchy> 0.0
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#231 [08:25] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: I just saw that you're an active contributor to the wiki, nice one.
#232 [08:26] <Calinou> since december 2010(R)
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#234 [08:32] <DiskDaemon> Calinou: I've been making lots of updates in regard to the Aether mod. Would you happen to know of any resources that could help give me info on planning and organising such updates?
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#236 [08:37] <Calinou> not really...
#237 [08:38] <DiskDaemon> dang
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#243 [09:02] <tyteen4a03> ?? index
#244 [09:02] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
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#248 [09:10] <damnfail> My minecraft crashes when im about to change texture pack. Im using few mods and I just can't uninstall them right now
#249 [09:10] <Necrodoom> ?? mods
#250 [09:10] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#251 [09:10] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#252 [09:10] <damnfail> how to fic
#253 [09:11] <damnfail> lol
#254 [09:11] <tyteen4a03> damnfail: We do not assist people with mods problems.
#255 [09:11] <damnfail> lol why
#256 [09:11] <damnfail> lol why
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#265 [10:28] <bsxucf> Does anyone here work for Mojang Support? I have sent in multiple requests to get the incorrect email address on my account changed and I have not heard anything back
#266 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> bsxucf: I'm going to bed now, but the following articles may help
#267 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#268 [10:29] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#269 [10:30] <bsxucf> 8-O
#270 [10:30] <bsxucf> 3 months backlogged! wow...
#271 [10:30] <DiskDaemon> I cans ee that smoeone failed maths in school
#272 [10:30] * DiskDaemon failed english
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#273 [10:31] <bsxucf> I can see someone needs to go to bed.
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#275 [10:32] <DiskDaemon> Yes, I'm just finishing up a wiki update
#276 [10:32] <bsxucf> Thanks for the links. seeya
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#281 [10:50] <matthewj> my game is stuck on " done loading" on the updating Minecraft. what to do?
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#286 [11:00] <vagos45> hello?
#287 [11:00] <matthewj> hi
#288 [11:00] <vagos45> hi
#289 [11:02] <vagos45> i bought the game 6 days ago and i downloaded it but when i play the game dropps me out after 2 minutes saying taht java has run out of memory
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#291 [11:03] <vagos45> i bought the game 6 days ago and i downloaded it but when i play the game dropps me out after 2 minutes saying taht java has run out of memory
#292 [11:05] <vagos45> hello?
#293 [11:05] <vagos45> anyone there?
#294 [11:07] <vagos45> ???
#295 [11:07] <vagos45> ???
#296 [11:07] <vagos45> ???????????
#297 [11:09] <vagos45> ?/??????????????????????????????????????????????????
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#299 [11:09] <vagos45> hello?
#300 [11:10] <vagos45> i bought the game 6 days ago and i downloaded it but when i play the game dropps me out after 2 minutes saying taht java has run out of memory
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#302 [11:11] <vagos45> anyone here?
#303 [11:12] <vagos45> i bought the game 6 days ago and i downloaded it but when i play the game dropps me out after 2 minutes saying taht java has run out of memory what should i do i download the game iand when i try it offline it says i havent downloaded it
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#310 [11:22] <luisoliveira1> Hello. I've created my account on account.mojang.com, redeemed the minecraft code and it's showing there my account (Minecraft 25 July, 2012 luisoliveira1) . When I try to login on minecraft with my username it says that it's invalid
#311 [11:23] <tyteen4a03> luisoliveira1: login with your email
#312 [11:24] <luisoliveira1> cool, it worked
#313 [11:24] <luisoliveira1> thanks a lot
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#315 [11:25] <zack_> okey my minecraft lags to where i cant play it my i have a refund plz
#316 [11:25] <vagos45> i bought the game 6 days ago and i downloaded it but when i play the game dropps me out after 2 minutes saying taht java has run out of memory
#317 [11:26] <GreyVulpine> zack_ - As we're not Mojang, we're not the ones to ask
#318 [11:26] <zack_> may i have a refund?
#319 [11:26] <tyteen4a03> vagos45: How much RAM does your computer have?
#320 [11:27] <vagos45> 700GB
#321 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> ok, let's get more information from your computer
#322 [11:28] <GreyVulpine> RAM, not hard drive space
#323 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> vagos45 win/dxdiag/bat
#324 [11:28] <VoxelHead> vagos45: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#325 [11:28] <VoxelHead> vagos45: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#326 [11:30] <vagos45> did it
#327 [11:30] <vagos45> http://pastebin.com/j1fyxU7q
#328 [11:30] <tyteen4a03> vagos45: hang on
#329 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#330 [11:31] <vagos45> ??
#331 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> ??> vagos45 win/client/moreram
#332 [11:32] <VoxelHead> vagos45: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#333 [11:32] <VoxelHead> vagos45: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#334 [11:33] <vagos45> java must be in my path?
#335 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> vagos45: ignore that statement for now
#336 [11:35] <vagos45> ok i runed it but nothing hapened
#337 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> did you run the bat file you just entered?
#338 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> *downloaded
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#340 [11:37] <vagos45> i downloaded it and runed it
#341 [11:37] <vagos45> i am playing the game and i havent dropped yet
#342 [11:37] <tyteen4a03> vagos45: so by using the bat file, you can play normally?
#343 [11:38] <vagos45> well now it doesnt respond so maybe it didnt work hang on
#344 [11:38] <tyteen4a03> Doesn't respond?
#345 [11:38] <vagos45> its stuck?
#346 [11:38] <vagos45> i see nothing
#347 [11:38] <vagos45> its blank\
#348 [11:39] <vagos45> i terminated it
#349 [11:40] <vagos45> no nothing happened
#350 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> ??< java/path
#351 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> ??< win/path
#352 [11:41] <vagos45> yes a java patch didnt respond and i had to terminate
#353 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> vagos45: is there an errorlog.txt?
#354 [11:43] <vagos45> what is that exactly?
#355 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> vagos45: do you have an errorlog.txt along the bat file?
#356 [11:43] <vagos45> no
#357 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> are you sure that minecraft.exe is alongside with the bat file?
#358 [11:44] <vagos45> no
#359 [11:44] <tyteen4a03> vagos45: you need to put minecraft.exe alongside the bat file to make it work
#360 [11:48] <vagos45> guys i think i do not have minecraft.exe i have the launcers and one file but i cant find minecraft.exe
#361 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> vagos45: The launcher is the Minecraft.exe
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#363 [11:52] <vagos45> yeah ok i have opened both of them
#364 [11:52] <tyteen4a03> don't open both of them, just make sure Minecraft.exe is alongside the bat file, then run the bat file only
#365 [11:54] <vagos45> ok well sorry i got to go i will log in another tim e thanks for your time see ya
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#368 [12:08] <minecraftjunkie21> i cannot install the 1.3 beta its is extreamly irritating
#369 [12:11] <Calinou> lol
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#372 [12:12] <minecraftjunkie21> hi hello i am have issues with installing these new updates.
#373 [12:13] <Morrolan> mfw
#374 [12:13] <Morrolan> He does that again, I get mad. >:(
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#377 [12:17] <Ghoti> Does anyone know of issues with the Minecraft store?
#378 [12:18] <Morrolan> What issues specifically?
#379 [12:18] <Morrolan> If payments with a credit card don't work then it is most likely the credit card provider blockign the payment, since it's an international one.
#380 [12:18] <james_> hello, i have forgotten my password so i sent it off to my email... but i have forgeten what email adress i used is there anyway to find it out?
#381 [12:19] <Ghoti> Skill (Moneybookers) not taking my card, or 2 friends cards. We are in the US.
#382 [12:20] <Morrolan> Ghoti - Suggest you call your credit card provider and ask them whether they blocked the payment. (Chances are your bank is your credit card provider)
#383 [12:20] <Morrolan> james_ - If you knew the password you could migrate the account and then see the mail address. However, without knowing either the password or the e-mail address, nope.
#384 [12:21] <Morrolan> james_ - You'll have to contact Mojang's support, providing them with a proof of purchase like the transaction ID or similar. However, they are currently working on emails from two months ago, so you'd have to wait for a very long time to get a response.
#385 [12:21] <Morrolan> Your best bet is to try and find out what e-mail address you've used elsewhere.
#386 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: you have every reason to be
#387 [12:22] <Ghoti> Thanks Morrolan.
#388 [12:22] <Morrolan> Ghoti - Oh, if it's a prepaid credit card then chances are they will not be able to unlock it for international transfers. If it's a regular credit card then they should be able to, however.
#389 [12:22] <james_> Hmm... is there a way I can get a hint what the e-mail is? I can remeber my Username as clear as day.
#390 [12:23] <Morrolan> james_ - You see parts of your e-mail address in your profile on minecraft.net, but that also requires signing in. :S
#391 [12:23] <james_> XD
#392 [12:23] <Morrolan> Sorry, but I can't think of a way to retrieve even parts of it off the top of my head.
#393 [12:23] <Morrolan> Maybe it's listed in the PayPal transaction record or so?
#394 [12:24] <james_> Its ok, thanks for the help anyways, I might just buy it again ^,^
#395 [12:24] <james_> Oh maybe!
#396 [12:24] <james_> ty Morro see ya later
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#398 [12:24] <Morrolan> Bye.
#399 [12:28] * Grim_Reaper facepalms
#399 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan..
#400 [12:28] <Grim_Reaper> Words cannot express.. the dissapointment http://i.imgur.com/VHovD.png
#401 [12:30] <Eddie> Grim_Reaper my brother is the same, you know why?
#402 [12:30] <Eddie> He has no money.
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#404 [12:30] <Grim_Reaper> I have no money too ;;
#405 [12:30] <Eddie> Even I have money!
#406 [12:30] <Eddie> But I spent most of it on my new SUPERCOMPUTER :p
#407 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> You mean.. "green computer"
#408 [12:31] <xales> Grim_Reaper: Where was that? ._.
#409 [12:31] <Morrolan> Grim_Reaper - Hehe.
#410 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> xales #cobalt
#411 [12:31] <xales> lol
#412 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> That guy..
#413 [12:31] <Eddie> Grim_Reaper: That makes it super to me :p
#414 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> Wont stop asking tons of question
#415 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> Eddie lol
#416 [12:31] <Eddie> I want an electric car!
#417 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> He's highlighted over 13 people in under 2 minutes
#418 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> trying to get somebody to answer him..
#419 [12:31] <xales> Grim_Reaper: b&
#420 [12:31] <Morrolan> Eddie - Or was it your Cyclocomputer? :D
#421 [12:31] <Grim_Reaper> Im no op xP
#422 [12:32] <xales> Eddie is!
#423 [12:32] <Eddie> Morrolan: No >.>
#424 [12:32] <Morrolan> Okay. ;)
#425 [12:33] <Eddie> Please say hello to our wonderful moderator, mister John Charles Daly
#426 [12:34] <Eddie> Grim_Reaper: Someone found your imgur image and he's in another network
#427 [12:34] <Eddie> omg!
#428 [12:34] <Grim_Reaper> What image
#429 [12:34] <Eddie> the one you posted just above
#430 [12:34] <Morrolan> The one of you I assume.
#431 [12:34] <Grim_Reaper> Lol
#432 [12:34] <Morrolan> Oh, that's fast.
#433 [12:34] <Eddie> about that person
#434 [12:34] <Grim_Reaper> I guess it was shared..
#435 [12:34] <Grim_Reaper> Kinda funny
#436 [12:35] <Grim_Reaper> My images are popular
#437 [12:35] <Grim_Reaper> Because Im cool like that :3
#438 [12:35] <Grim_Reaper> (if only >_>)
#439 [12:35] <Eddie> Oh I know
#440 [12:35] <Eddie> he's in Deltaanime
#441 [12:36] <Grim_Reaper> Oh me?
#442 [12:36] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#443 [12:36] <Eddie> yes you showed it there too didn't you? :p
#444 [12:36] <Grim_Reaper> yes.. Yes I did
#445 [12:36] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#446 [12:36] <Eddie> lol
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#448 [12:37] <Grim_Reaper> Also Eddie why are you stalking me ._.
#449 [12:37] <Eddie> I'm not o.O
#450 [12:38] <Grim_Reaper> Yes you are :<
#451 [12:38] * Morrolan hides the binocular
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#452 [12:39] <Grim_Reaper> ..
#453 [12:39] <Grim_Reaper> It's ok Morrolan you can stalk me since you always hug me back every time
#454 [12:39] <Morrolan> Ah, okay.
#455 [12:39] <Eddie> :'(
#456 [12:39] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#457 [12:39] * Grim_Reaper huggles Eddie
#457 [12:39] <Grim_Reaper> Speaking of stalking
#458 [12:39] <Grim_Reaper> A few years back
#459 [12:39] <Grim_Reaper> I felt so violated..
#460 [12:40] <Grim_Reaper> I was taking a shower
#461 [12:40] * xales was there
#461 [12:40] <Morrolan> Ayayay
#462 [12:40] <xales> ...in the shower
#463 [12:40] <Grim_Reaper> And these 2 young girls were peeking through the window :|
#464 [12:40] <Morrolan> ... Where is your shower again?
#465 [12:40] <Grim_Reaper> And the next day. they told me everything I had done in there. Washing my hair, what color towel I had used
#466 [12:40] <Morrolan> In a public park? :S
#467 [12:40] <xales> :|
#468 [12:40] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan i was staying at my dad at the time
#469 [12:40] <Grim_Reaper> They were like.. freaking 10 year olds
#470 [12:40] <Grim_Reaper> I was like.. ffffff
#471 [12:40] <Morrolan> Hmm, and how does his house look like that they can just peek into the bathroom?
#472 [12:41] <Grim_Reaper> It's a simplex..
#473 [12:41] <Grim_Reaper> And it was on the ground floor
#474 [12:41] <Eddie> The simplex method
#475 [12:41] <Grim_Reaper> So it's just a matter of peeking at the window on the grass outside xP
#476 [12:41] <Morrolan> Heh, okay. ^^
#477 [12:41] <Grim_Reaper> Long story short. That.. Was probably the second worth time ever of my nude stories of life
#478 [12:42] <Grim_Reaper> worst*
#479 [12:43] <Grim_Reaper> Im tempted to share this story >_> but yeah Im sure it bores the hell of you all
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#481 [12:44] <Morrolan> Go ahead. ;)
#482 [12:44] <Morrolan> I'll have dinner, will read it afterwards. :P
#483 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#484 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> ok so..
#485 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> I had gone to the beach with my gran
#486 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> I was like.. 10?
#487 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> Anyways after swimming etc etc .-.
#488 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> My gran..
#489 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> Made me shower in the nude P_P in the public showers.. Outside
#490 [12:45] <Grim_Reaper> And get my clothes on.. nude P_P
#491 [12:46] <Grim_Reaper> That... was like the worst nude experiance for me ever
#492 [12:47] <Eddie> http://media.twnmm.com/storage/7294688/619
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#496 [13:06] <xales> Grim_Reaper: I'd have said no. :p
#497 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> I tried :|
#498 [13:07] <Grim_Reaper> She kinda just.. starting stripping me down :<
#499 [13:08] <xales> :<
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#502 [13:14] <Morrolan> Drunk_Reaper - Oh, now don't tell me those memories are that horribly that you had to get drunk. :P
#503 [13:15] <Morrolan> that horrible*
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#505 [13:22] <Drunk_Reaper> Lol Morrolan naa
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#507 [13:22] <Drunk_Reaper> Kealper suggested I change my nick to this
#508 [13:22] <Kealper> lol
#509 [13:24] <Calinou> <Grim_Reaper> That... was like the worst nude experiance for me ever
#510 [13:24] <Calinou> experiance > experience
#511 [13:24] <Drunk_Reaper> Thanks
#512 [13:24] * Calinou slaps Drunk_Reaper around a bit using a large ambiance
#512 [13:24] <Drunk_Reaper> D:
#513 [13:24] <Drunk_Reaper> Hey dont slap me..
#514 [13:24] <Drunk_Reaper> At least call me a bitch before you do so ;-;
#515 [13:24] <Kealper> lol
#516 [13:27] <xy> Calinou: y u randomly slap people? :P
#517 [13:28] <Calinou> lol, xy
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#519 [13:34] <Nathan2055|code> Guys, any bugs you need me to test?
#520 [13:34] * Nathan2055 is on a roll
#520 [13:35] <xales> Well, we aren't Mojang.
#521 [13:35] <Grim_Reaper> Nathan2055. please test if the bug can be squashed without screaming
#522 [13:35] <Grim_Reaper> But in all seriousness..
#523 [13:35] <xales> ^
#524 [13:35] <Grim_Reaper> I would suggest checking the wiki
#525 [13:35] * tyteen4a03 slaps Grim_Reaper with a whore
#525 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper: you bitch
#526 [13:35] <xales> Grim_Reaper: Wiki has *known* bugs. :P
#527 [13:35] <Grim_Reaper> Check the wiki to check the bugs and confirm
#528 [13:35] <Grim_Reaper> Some of them might not yet be confirmed :p
#529 [13:36] <Nathan2055> I did, I'm going over Monday and Tuesday's bugs and testing them in w30e.
#530 [13:36] <Grim_Reaper> ^^
#531 [13:36] <Nathan2055> If the code freeze is going to happen on Thursday (last possible day it can happen to meet the August 1st date), these bugs need to be checked so Mojang can fix them.
#532 [13:38] <skyboy> ??< do/,
#533 [13:38] <Kealper> skyboy: hmm?
#534 [13:44] <Nathan2055> ?? do/,
#535 [13:44] <VoxelHead> do/,: The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#536 [13:44] <skyboy> Kealper: i needed the content of the factoid for myself
#537 [13:45] <skyboy> and i can't PM the bot to get factoids sent back to me
#538 [13:45] <Kealper> oh... i thought you just like... were failing at doing a questionmark asking what "??<" did lol... didn't know do/, was an actual factoid
#539 [13:46] <Nathan2055> Okay, going to test, brb.
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#541 [13:46] <UMD> ^ÂÊÎÔÛâêîôûĈĉĜĝĤĥĴĵŜŝŴŵŶŷˆ̭̂᷍ḒḓḘḙḼḽṊṋṰṱṶṷẐẑẤấẦầẨẩẪẫẬậẾếỀềỂểỄễỆệỐốỒồỔổỖỗỘộ⨣⨶⩯ꞈ^
#542 [13:46] <Grim_Reaper> Kealper
#543 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> He's trying to use an xchat exploit I believe
#544 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan ;-;
#545 [13:47] <GreyVulpine> !k umd
#546 [13:47] * GreyBot kicked UMD from #minecrafthelp (Reason: MD :<Kicks:936>)
#547 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> Thanks GreyVulpine <3
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#549 [13:47] <Grim_Reaper> I cant seem to kick with GreyBot :|
#550 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> yeah xchat exploit
#551 [13:48] <Morrolan> :)
#552 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> tminus is going to keep dcing till his logs dont have to show that exploit anymore lol
#553 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> !k Grim_Reaper test
#554 [13:48] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#555 [13:49] <Morrolan> Use AuBot's "!kick"
#556 [13:49] <Grim_Reaper> !kick Grim_Reaper test
#557 [13:49] <Grim_Reaper> I dont have that either
#558 [13:49] <Morrolan> Hmm.
#559 [13:49] <Morrolan> Prod Kealper ;D
#560 [13:49] <Grim_Reaper> I only have access to WugBot lol
#561 [13:49] * Grim_Reaper prods Kealper
#561 [13:49] <Kealper> pretty sure you do have access to it
#562 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> Doesn't look like it xP
#563 [13:50] <Kealper> if you didn't, it would have kicked you
#564 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> !kick Kealper test
#565 [13:50] <Kealper> the troll-kick, not the legitimate one
#566 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#567 [13:50] <Kealper> it won't let users who have !kick kick other users who have it
#568 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> Hmm..
#569 [13:50] <Grim_Reaper> sec
#570 [13:50] <Morrolan> Ah, would explain why Grim_Reaper couldn't kick himself. :)
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#571 [13:51] <Morrolan> Oh, just pick some random guy from here. :D
#572 [13:51] <Kealper> Morrolan: yeah, beacuse i'm pretty sure i've still got the troll-kick in there so if someone tries using it and doesn't have permission, it kicks them instead
#573 [13:51] <Grim_Reaper> Lol shame ;-; I would feel bad
#574 [13:51] <Morrolan> Kealper - Yea. :)
#575 [13:51] <Morrolan> Kealper - Is AuBot's access list per-channel, actually?
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#577 [13:52] <Kealper> sort of
#578 [13:52] <xales> .auth xales 1
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#580 [13:52] <xales> lol
#581 [13:52] <Grim_Reaper> !kick Grimmycakes test
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#584 [13:52] <Kealper> !kick Grimmycakes
#585 [13:52] <Grimmycakes> it doesn't work
#586 [13:52] * AuBot kicked Grimmycakes from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rimmycakes :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by Kealper with reason: None given.))
#587 [13:52] <Morrolan> !kick Grimmycakes
#588 [13:52] <Morrolan> Odd indeed.
#589 [13:52] <raggedstone> how can i reset every thing on my minecraft acount
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#592 [13:52] <Morrolan> raggedstone - As in, savegames, screenshots, texture packs?
#593 [13:53] <xales> raggedstone: Your Minecraft account doesn't have anything associated with it other than a skin and profile/login info.
#594 [13:53] <raggedstone> i cant start the game the screen just gos black
#595 [13:53] <xales> raggedstone: Has it always done this?
#596 [13:53] <Grim_Reaper> !kick Grimmycakes
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#598 [13:54] <Morrolan> Kealper - Seems there's no troll kick in place anymore then.
#599 [13:54] <Kealper> shame
#600 [13:54] <Kealper> lol
#601 [13:54] <Grimmycakes> !kick Grim_Reaper
#602 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> yeah nothing :p
#603 [13:54] <Morrolan> !paid Notch
#604 [13:54] * AuBot kicked Morrolan from #minecrafthelp (Reason: orrolan :Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#605 [13:54] <raggedstone> it just started to do this yesterday and today. i went on this yesterday and the wiped everything and it worked the i started a map and today it dosent work.
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#607 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#608 [13:54] <Grim_Reaper> lold Morrolan
#609 [13:54] <Kealper> lol
#610 [13:54] <Morrolan> That one's still ther though
#611 [13:54] <Morrolan> there*
#612 [13:54] <xales> raggedstone: Did you try to install any mods or texture packs?
#613 [13:55] <raggedstone> one mod that worked befor and my brother got a texture pack
#614 [13:55] <xales> ??> raggedstone causality
#615 [13:55] <VoxelHead> raggedstone: (causality) If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#616 [13:55] <VoxelHead> raggedstone: (causality) Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
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#618 [13:56] <raggedstone> how do i get everything off
#619 [13:56] <xales> ??> raggedstone win/reinst
#620 [13:56] <VoxelHead> raggedstone: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#621 [13:56] <VoxelHead> raggedstone: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#624 [13:57] <raggedstone> there is no minecraft directery
#625 [13:57] <Grim_Reaper> !kick Grimmycakes test
#626 [13:57] * AuBot kicked Grimmycakes from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rimmycakes :I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you stay here. (Issued by Grim_Reaper with reason: test))
#627 [13:58] <Calinou> huh
#628 [13:58] <Calinou> /banlist... only one ban
#629 [13:58] <Calinou> o_o
#630 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> It unbanned
#631 [13:58] <Grim_Reaper> But yes wow.. only one ban
#632 [13:58] <xales> raggedstone: Are you using the launcher from minecraft.net ?
#633 [13:58] <Morrolan> As you might have noticed, we use VoxelHead to manage bans.
#634 [13:58] <raggedstone> yes i found it it was in a folder
#635 [13:59] <xales> raggedstone: You found the .minecraft directory?
#636 [13:59] <raggedstone> yes
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#638 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> .set mode +r
#639 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> .set mode -r
#640 [13:59] <Grim_Reaper> All working hehe
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#642 [14:00] <t_T> .set mode +r
#643 [14:00] <xales> Kealper: You have a problem. ._.
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#645 [14:01] <t_T> .set mode -r
#646 [14:01] <t_T> .auth Kealper 0
#647 [14:01] <raggedstone> thank you so much.
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#653 [14:13] <Kealper> hmm
#654 [14:14] <Kealper> i wonder when i broke that
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#656 [14:15] <mib_kealper> .set mode +m
#657 [14:15] <Kealper> shit.... i definitely broke that
#658 [14:15] <Kealper> !unload mod_bot
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#664 [14:19] <Geo52rey> hi
#665 [14:19] <Calinou> hi
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#668 [14:19] <Geo52rey> is anyone that works for mojang here
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#670 [14:20] <Elystus> Huh, perfect timing Geo52rey
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#672 [14:20] <Marc_IRL> >.>
#673 [14:20] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> it wont let me open my minecraft
#674 [14:20] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: I saw you added the few things i requested you to on the tech article. Thanks :)
#675 [14:20] <Geo52rey> i have a suggestion
#676 [14:20] <Marc_IRL> mhm
#677 [14:20] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> its like connection denied
#678 [14:20] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: What exactly is happening.
#679 [14:21] <Elystus> Geo52rey: A suggestion for something to be added to the game?
#680 [14:21] <Geo52rey> yes microphone use
#681 [14:21] <Marc_IRL> Use teamspeak
#682 [14:22] <skyboy> just use a VOIP program; like ventero
#683 [14:22] <Elystus> Geo52rey: Well first of all, this is not the place for suggestions of that nature. Try the suggestions section on the Minecraft forums.
#684 [14:22] <Geo52rey> bye
#685 [14:22] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> i open it up and i log in and it says update available and its like yes or not now and when i choose yes it goes to the screen then it says failed to launch
#686 [14:23] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Is there any other error message.
#687 [14:24] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> it also says Fatal error occured (4): Permision denied: connect
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#689 [14:26] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: it also says Fatal error occured (4): Permision denied: connect
#690 [14:26] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Is there anything else odd about your launcher? Such as grey and html code in the news panel?
#691 [14:26] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Yes that is there too
#692 [14:27] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: THe problem is with java 7. We will have to tell it to use ipv4 instead of ipv6.
#693 [14:27] <xales> Elystus: or just install java 6 :p
#694 [14:27] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: how do i do that
#695 [14:27] <Elystus> xales: I tend to want to keep java 7 since it is the recommended version of java now. (I mean by Oracle, not by minecraft)
#696 [14:27] <xales> :p
#697 [14:28] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: follow the intructions found here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
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#704 [14:38] <WiseMods> i have a question about factions plugin
#705 [14:39] <WiseMods> I want to have pvp areas but nobody can fight each other because they arent enemies in their factions
#706 [14:39] <WiseMods> anybody know what to do?
#707 [14:39] <skyboy> ?? mods
#708 [14:39] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#709 [14:40] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#710 [14:40] <WiseMods> sorry guys
#711 [14:40] <WiseMods> sorry guys
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#715 [14:43] <tmn> I have about 30 secs of connection lag and lots of disconnects in minecraft, no problems in other games (for several weeks now)
#716 [14:43] <tmn> (have it in all servers)
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#718 [14:43] <tmn> I know its a big vague, but anyone have an idea?
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#720 [14:46] <xales> tmn: What's the speed of your Internet connection? Are you using a wireless connection?
#721 [14:47] <tmn> xales: yes, i'm on wifi, and a quite solid fiber connection
#722 [14:48] <tmn> i'm a bit suspicious of the router they send me but that doesn't explain why quake doesn't suffer from the same problems
#723 [14:48] <xales> tmn: Minecraft uses excessive amounts of bandwidth, probably quite a bit more than Quake.
#724 [14:48] <tmn> hm
#725 [14:48] <xales> Are the servers you are attempting to connect to located geographically close to you? Sometimes that can be the issue.
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#727 [14:48] <tmn> yeah, they are basically in my backyard
#728 [14:49] <BIGPIMPV> HI
#729 [14:49] <tmn> how could I check if bandwith is the issue
#730 [14:49] <tmn> my connection _should_ have plenty
#731 [14:49] <BIGPIMPV> CAN YOU RUN
#732 [14:49] <xales> Hmm. Could you try plugging your computer into the network, and disabling wireless (to force it to use the wired connection) and see if that helps? Sometimes, that can be related.
#733 [14:50] <xales> ??> BIGPIMPV dont/shout
#734 [14:50] <VoxelHead> BIGPIMPV: (dont/shout) There is no need to yell. The acoustics in here are wonderful.
#735 [14:50] <BIGPIMPV> CAN YOU RUN PREMIUM STATTUS ON WINDOWS XP
#736 [14:50] <BIGPIMPV> sorry
#737 [14:50] <tmn> thx xales ... i'll have to get myself some cable :E
#738 [14:50] <BIGPIMPV> didnt think thta really mattered
#739 [14:50] <xales> BIGPIMPV: Are you asking if you can play Minecraft on Windows XP? If so, yes.
#740 [14:51] <xales> Assuming your computer meets the minimum requirements of the game, the operating system is generally irrelevant.
#741 [14:51] <BIGPIMPV> yes, that is what im asking
#742 [14:51] <BIGPIMPV> ok
#743 [14:51] <xales> Please see here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#744 [14:51] <BIGPIMPV> whll my son cant run the play mine craft in the browser
#745 [14:52] <BIGPIMPV> was wondering why
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#747 [14:52] <xales> Does your computer meet the minimum requirements? If you do not know how to check, please say so.
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#749 [14:54] <BIGPIMPV> yes it does 4gis, and windows xp
#750 [14:54] <BIGPIMPV> gigs
#751 [14:54] <xales> BIGPIMPV: What about the GPU?
#752 [14:54] <BIGPIMPV> and all the other randon stuff
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#754 [14:54] <xales> ??> BIGPIMPV win/dxdiag
#755 [14:54] <VoxelHead> BIGPIMPV: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#756 [14:54] <VoxelHead> BIGPIMPV: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#757 [14:54] <VoxelHead> BIGPIMPV: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#764 [15:25] <jandresfg> Hi, anybody knows what to do when the error "pixel format not accelerated" pops out while loading minecraft on browser?
#765 [15:25] <killjoy> ok i downloaded the aether mod and 1 day after that everytime i log in it says minecraft has crashed and wont work on browser ether why ?
#766 [15:25] <Elystus> killjoy: We don't support mods here, but my guess is that you installed it wrong.
#767 [15:26] <Elystus> killjoy: Do a force update to unisntall the mod and return it to normal
#768 [15:26] <killjoy> hmmm but i deleted everything and reset everything then redownloaded
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#771 [15:27] <Ull101> hey is anyone ion?
#772 [15:28] <BIGPIMPV> WHAT THE DIFF BETWEEN PLAYING THIS GAME IN THE BROWSER OR DOWN LOADING IT AND PLAYING IT
#773 [15:28] <BIGPIMPV> sorry about the caps
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#775 [15:29] <Ull101> anyone on?
#776 [15:29] <BIGPIMPV> me
#777 [15:29] <Ull101> can you help with tI
#778 [15:29] <Elystus> Hold on a minute
#779 [15:29] <BIGPIMPV> no
#780 [15:29] <Ull101> tecnical issue
#781 [15:30] <BIGPIMPV> im waiting also
#782 [15:30] <Ull101> waiting for what?
#783 [15:30] <BIGPIMPV> trying to figure out
#784 [15:30] <BIGPIMPV> what the
#785 [15:30] <BIGPIMPV> difference is between
#786 [15:31] <Ull101> between what?
#787 [15:31] <Elystus> BIGPIMPV: There relly is no diffrence, but i don't believe you can use mods in browser.
#788 [15:31] <BIGPIMPV> playing this game in the browser or downloading and playing ti
#789 [15:31] <Elystus> Ull101: What is your issue.
#790 [15:31] <BIGPIMPV> well
#791 [15:31] <Ull101> minecraft keeps saying not enough memory
#792 [15:32] <Ull101> it then says download again or play offline
#793 [15:32] <BIGPIMPV> it says my son needs windows 7 to plaay this game in the browser
#794 [15:32] <Ull101> I have Windows 7
#795 [15:32] <BIGPIMPV> we have xp
#796 [15:32] <BIGPIMPV> can you still playit
#797 [15:32] <Elystus> BIGPIMPV: I think you are mistaken. It does not require any specific operating system.
#798 [15:33] <Ull101> No it keeps crashing and says it has tried to free up enough memory
#799 [15:33] <Elystus> BIGPIMPV: Are you trying to play classic version or premium version?
#800 [15:33] <Ull101> premium version
#801 [15:33] <Elystus> Ull101: How much ram is installed on your computer?
#802 [15:33] <BIGPIMPV> well it say when he goes to play in the browser that we need to update video
#803 [15:34] <Ull101> 8 gig
#804 [15:34] <BIGPIMPV> card or something
#805 [15:34] <Elystus> Ull101: Not everything I am saying is directed at you.
#806 [15:34] <Ull101> sorry
#807 [15:34] <BIGPIMPV> 4 gigs
#808 [15:34] <Elystus> Ull101: I will help you in a moment
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#810 [15:34] <Ull101> k
#811 [15:35] <Elystus> BIGPIMPV: Can you follow the directions that VoxelHead will give you?
#812 [15:35] <milnie> how wiould i delete minecraft so can reinstall fresh
#813 [15:35] <Elystus> ??>> BIGPIMPV win/dxdiag
#814 [15:35] <Elystus> ??>> milnie win/reinst
#815 [15:35] <milnie> ok ty
#816 [15:36] <Elystus> Ull101: open notepad, and put this in it: javaw -Xmx384m -Xms384m -jar minecraft.exe
#817 [15:36] <milnie> it worked tyvm
#818 [15:37] <Elystus> milnie: you're welcome :)
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#822 [15:39] <Elystus> Ull101: open notepad, and put this in it: javaw -Xmx384m -Xms384m -jar minecraft.exe
#823 [15:39] <Ull101> i did what now
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#825 [15:40] <blink> um
#826 [15:41] <blink> .paid blink348
#827 [15:41] <Elystus> Now click save as and put minecraft.bat. Then change the file type to all files.
#828 [15:41] <blink> which is it again?
#829 [15:41] <Elystus> !paid blink348
#830 [15:41] <blink> right
#831 [15:41] <blink> !paid housecat_monkey
#832 [15:41] <blink> what if it's an account that like
#833 [15:41] <blink> doesn't exist?
#834 [15:41] <blink> will it tell you?
#835 [15:41] <blink> !paid blink34899
#836 [15:42] <blink> nevermind then
#837 [15:42] <Elystus> It just says has not paid.
#838 [15:42] <blink> do you guys remember the one weekend minecraft was free?
#839 [15:42] <blink> years ago
#840 [15:42] <blink> when they said they'd broke something
#841 [15:43] <blink> I believe I made an account then and I'm trying to look for it now
#842 [15:43] <blink> accounts don't have an expiration do they?
#843 [15:43] <xales> blink: It was only free for that weekend.
#844 [15:43] <xales> It did not make your account premium.
#845 [15:43] <blink> well obviously
#846 [15:43] <blink> but the account should still be there
#847 [15:44] <blink> (if I made it)
#848 [15:44] <xales> Indeed
#849 [15:46] <blink> I guess I didn't, I've tried every email I would have used :[
#850 [15:46] <blink> ah well
#851 [15:48] <Elystus> xales: Do you think there would ever be a case where more than 2048 megabytes of memory should be allocated to minecraft?
#852 [15:48] <xales> Elystus: Server, using an obscene amount of mods.
#853 [15:49] <xales> s/,/, or/
#854 [15:49] <Elystus> Okay, so no reason to ever do it for a client?
#855 [15:49] <Elystus> Okay, i made 2048 the max that my program will allocate.
#856 [15:49] <xales> Using lots of mods or huge textures may warrant more than 2GB.
#857 [15:50] <Elystus> hmm.... maybe I will make the max 2.5 gb...
#858 [15:50] <xales> Just don't have a maximum. :p
#859 [15:50] <Elystus> xales, fine, I will jsut stick with the plan of not allowing people to allocate more than 2/3 of their memory.
#860 [15:51] <xales> :p
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#863 [16:01] <RoboKittie> Hello?
#864 [16:01] <Smanly> Hi
#865 [16:01] <Elystus> Hiya
#866 [16:01] <RoboKittie> I epicly need minecraft help. :(
#867 [16:02] <Elystus> RoboKittie: State your issue...
#868 [16:02] <RoboKittie> I've installed Java, but it still tells me I need Java to play. Dx
#869 [16:03] <Elystus> Are you trying to play the classic version?
#870 [16:04] <RoboKittie> Well, I had to get on a classic account because I can't login to my paid account.
#871 [16:04] <Elystus> RoboKittie: You need java 6 to play classic.
#872 [16:04] <Elystus> You most likely have java 7.
#873 [16:05] <RoboKittie> I just installed Java 7, yeah.
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#875 [16:05] <Elystus> RoboKittie: Uninstall java 7 and install Java 6.
#876 [16:05] <RoboKittie> it didn't ask me want version i wanted
#877 [16:06] <Elystus> RoboKittie: Just uninstall 7 and install 6.
#878 [16:08] <RoboKittie> I'm in the process
#879 [16:08] <Elystus> Good :)
#880 [16:09] <xales> RoboKittie: You can get Java 6 here, if you haven't found it yet:
#881 [16:09] <xales> ??> RoboKittie getjava
#882 [16:09] <VoxelHead> RoboKittie: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
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#886 [16:44] <wontwork> hello
#887 [16:44] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: it didnt work
#888 [16:44] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: What was your issue again?
#889 [16:45] <wontwork> i try to play offline but it say "not downloaded"
#890 [16:45] <Elystus> wontwork: You need to download the files first.
#891 [16:45] <Elystus> wontwork: which you need a premium account to do.
#892 [16:45] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Would you mind using teamviewer?
#893 [16:45] <Elystus> I remember your issue now.
#894 [16:46] <wontwork> but i done it without one befor
#895 [16:46] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> whats that??
#896 [16:46] <wontwork> before*
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#898 [16:46] <Elystus> ??>> HELP-ME-PLEASE teamviewer
#899 [16:46] <Elystus> wontwork: If you have played minecraft without a premium account before, that is piracy and that is not supported here.
#900 [16:47] <wontwork> i downloaded it from the minecraft.net tho
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#902 [16:47] <Elystus> wontwork: what is your minecraft username?
#903 [16:47] <wontwork> gunga41
#904 [16:48] <Elystus> !paid gunga41
#905 [16:48] <wontwork> i have never brought it before i thought it would just let me play offline
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#907 [16:48] <xales> wontwork: Minecraft isn't free.
#908 [16:49] <xales> If you want to play it, you have to buy it.
#909 [16:49] <xales> Just like any other game.
#910 [16:49] <Elystus> wontwork: As I said, you have to have premium to download the files to play offline.
#911 [16:49] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: idk.......
#912 [16:49] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Are you skeptical of teamviewer? I can try to lead you though it. But it will take a lot longer.
#913 [16:50] <wontwork> okay then im just confused on how i managed to play it without actually paying
#914 [16:50] <Elystus> wontwork: You pirated it...
#915 [16:50] <wontwork> but i have never played it anywhere else
#916 [16:50] <xales> wontwork: Minecraft was free to play for a very short duration.
#917 [16:50] <xales> Regardless, unless you buy the game, you cannot play it.
#918 [16:51] <Elystus> xales: It was!?
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#920 [16:51] <xales> Elystus: Yeah...
#921 [16:51] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: could you just lead me through it please
#922 [16:51] <Mickel> Can anybody help me to make a server a mine craft?
#923 [16:51] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Okay find the shortcut that you created and right click it and go to properties.
#924 [16:52] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> okay
#925 [16:52] <xales> Mickel: You can follow the guide here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#926 [16:52] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Copy and paste what is put as the target.
#927 [16:52] <xales> Please note that if you just want to play with other people, you do not need to make a server.
#928 [16:52] <Mickel> thank u ill try that
#929 [16:52] <wontwork> oh okay i had my pc fixed and lost all of my folders for it tho and i dunno how to get them,back
#930 [16:52] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> C:\Users\Owner\Downloads\Minecraft.exe
#931 [16:52] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: That is wrong.
#932 [16:52] <xales> wontwork: Again, if you haven't bought Minecraft, then you cannot play it.
#933 [16:52] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: put this in
#934 [16:52] <Elystus> java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#935 [16:53] <Elystus> and then move the launcher to the desktop.
#936 [16:53] <wontwork> i understand this but if i was prepared to pay is there anyway of getting hold of my folders again?
#937 [16:53] <xales> wontwork: Unless you have a backup of them, no.
#938 [16:54] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> it says it wasnt valid
#939 [16:54] <Elystus> is the launcher on the desktop?
#940 [16:55] <wontwork> okay thank you do you work for the company i wpuld like to tell them how much help you have been
#941 [16:55] <xales> wontwork: No, we don't.
#942 [16:55] <xales> Elystus: I think you need to specify the full path to the executable for a shortcut.
#943 [16:55] <Elystus> xales: I know. I have it all qued up to paste.
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#945 [16:55] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: it wasnt valid
#946 [16:55] <xales> Elystus: but not the path to java.exe :p
#947 [16:56] <Elystus> xales: No, you need to specify the path to java alot of the time. The error given indicates that it is a problem finding java's path.
#948 [16:56] <wontwork> well anyway thank you so much for helping me solve my problem i will get my frieds to come straight to you two in futer thank you very much
#949 [16:56] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: put this in instead:
#950 [16:56] <Elystus> %ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#951 [16:57] <Elystus> wontwork: Glad we could help :)
#952 [16:57] <wontwork> you guys are amazing thank you again when i get some money we should play minecraft sometime ;)
#953 [16:58] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Double quotes around the path&filename might be wanted there
#954 [16:58] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> it says that wasnt valid either
#955 [16:58] <Elystus> "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#956 [16:58] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: that was a copy straight from the wiki.
#957 [16:58] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I will edit the quotes in on the wiki.
#958 [16:59] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: that wasnt valid either
#959 [16:59] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASEp: Sounds like we need to manually find javas path :/
#960 [17:00] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: click start and go click on computer. Then open the folder named C:.
#961 [17:00] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Yes, the shortcut dialog can handle it without, but if being used from a batch file they need to be there. I'll put them there on the wiki for the sake of completeness
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#963 [17:01] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: already put them in on the wiki.
#964 [17:01] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> The only things that come up are Program files and
#965 [17:02] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Intel And Windows and
#966 [17:02] <Elystus> okay, open program files
#967 [17:03] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> another Program Files (x86)
#968 [17:03] <Elystus> fine the folder named Java, and open that. What is inside the java folder?
#969 [17:03] <Elystus> find*
#970 [17:03] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> there a couple
#971 [17:03] <Elystus> name them.
#972 [17:04] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> The Java (32bit) in my control panel
#973 [17:04] <Elystus> are you on the control panel?
#974 [17:04] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> no
#975 [17:04] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> then the is a java folder
#976 [17:04] <Elystus> okay continue.
#977 [17:05] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> No theres two
#978 [17:05] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Javas
#979 [17:05] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> then theres Java Update JavaScript and javascript
#980 [17:05] <Elystus> okay go back the C:
#981 [17:06] <Elystus> open program files (x86)
#982 [17:06] <Elystus> is there a java folder in there?
#983 [17:06] <Elystus> is there a java folder in there?
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#985 [17:07] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Yes
#986 [17:07] <Elystus> open that and tell me what is in it.
#987 [17:07] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> okay
#988 [17:08] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> There is a folder called jre7
#989 [17:08] <Elystus> pefect
#990 [17:08] <Elystus> perfect*
#991 [17:09] <Elystus> Since you are on a 64 bit system, you should probably download java 7 64 bit as well.
#992 [17:09] <Elystus> here is the download: http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=65693
#993 [17:09] <Elystus> after that is downloaded, the shortcut should work.
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#995 [17:12] <werwew19> hello
#996 [17:12] <Smanly> Hola
#997 [17:12] <werwew19> I tried to force update
#998 [17:13] <werwew19> and now its stuck
#999 [17:13] <werwew19> at 2%
#1000 [17:13] <werwew19> I already tweeted to jeb about it I doubt he is going to answer.
#1001 [17:13] <Smanly> ^
#1002 [17:13] <werwew19> Do you have the same issue??
#1003 [17:13] <Smanly> No
#1004 [17:13] <Elystus> werwew19: Do you have AVG?
#1005 [17:13] <werwew19> Yes I have AVG
#1006 [17:13] <werwew19> I just got it
#1007 [17:13] <Elystus> werwew19: Disable the link scanning module.
#1008 [17:13] <Elystus> then try.
#1009 [17:14] <werwew19> I already had that disable
#1010 [17:14] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> okay installing and updatin
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#1012 [17:14] <Elystus> werwew19: then disable AVG all together.
#1013 [17:14] <werwew19> Ok trying now
#1014 [17:15] <werwew19> Works perfectly thank you elystus
#1015 [17:15] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: DONE
#1016 [17:15] <Smanly> nice
#1017 [17:15] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Try minecraft using the shortcut now.
#1018 [17:16] <Elystus> werwew19: good to hear! :)
#1019 [17:16] <werwew19> I am surprised you knew about the AVG xD
#1020 [17:16] <werwew19> I would of never thought of that and I doubt nobody else would of :P
#1021 [17:16] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> the news thing is still grey :c
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#1023 [17:17] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Would you mind using teamviewer :/ I need to see what is going on with my own eyes.
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#1025 [17:18] <mid> hello
#1026 [17:18] <Smanly> Hola
#1027 [17:19] <mid> who can help me on why way in the new minecraft
#1028 [17:19] <mid> i did minecraft v1 but its differend now
#1029 [17:19] <Smanly> on why way?
#1030 [17:19] <mid> my whay i mean
#1031 [17:19] <mid> way omg
#1032 [17:19] <Elystus> mid: What type of help do you need?
#1033 [17:20] <mid> 1st off how do i fly in create mode single play
#1034 [17:21] <Elystus> mid: Double tap space
#1035 [17:21] <mid> lol thanks
#1036 [17:21] <mid> and where can i find what they chanced sinse minecraft V1
#1037 [17:22] <mid> i found all kinds of weird objects
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#1039 [17:22] <Elystus> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CFMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftwiki.net%2Fwiki%2FTutorials%2FBeginner's_guide&ei=nGMQUOfoIqbtiwLmnIGYDw&usg=AFQjCNGo3thO4u9MPwwVzzYUJPIfQlnZWA&sig2=Mhj8BBDWD3UIsQtw053KmQ
#1040 [17:23] <Smanly> O.o
#1041 [17:23] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Beginner%s_guide
#1042 [17:23] <mid> thanks dudes
#1043 [17:23] <mid> but that wiki is kinda 1.0 stuff
#1044 [17:24] <Elystus> mid: YOu can jsut randomly search the wiki.
#1045 [17:24] <Elystus> just*
#1046 [17:24] <mid> ye true
#1047 [17:24] <mjhgng> i purchased minecraft, when i press download it takes me to a page, i put in user name and password , then it says not downloaded and does nothing
#1048 [17:25] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: Is teamveiwer safe???
#1049 [17:26] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: yes, you can end the session whenever you want. And you can see what I am doing.
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#1051 [17:27] <mid> is it possible to build stuff in create world and then enter that world in survival mode?
#1052 [17:27] <Smanly> Yes
#1053 [17:27] <mid> or better yet combine the 2
#1054 [17:27] <mid> ok
#1055 [17:27] <Elystus> In the snapshots it is.
#1056 [17:28] <Smanly> Or get TooManyItems
#1057 [17:28] <mid> toomanyitems mod ye?
#1058 [17:28] <Smanly> Yes
#1059 [17:28] <Mrc> Hello from belgium.
#1060 [17:28] <Smanly> Hola
#1061 [17:28] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: Hang on let me go check to see if its okay with my dad
#1062 [17:28] <mid> hi belgium holland here
#1063 [17:28] <Elystus> okay :)
#1064 [17:29] <werwew19> Elystus how come I always fail installing modloader xD
#1065 [17:29] <werwew19> I can install like any mod but that one :p
#1066 [17:29] <Smanly> Can I reccomend Magiclancher.com ?
#1067 [17:30] <Elystus> werwew19: Dunno, I have never used mods. I would assume it is because you are copying the incorrect files.
#1068 [17:30] <Smanly> MagicLauncher.com *
#1069 [17:30] <werwew19> Smanly checking it out now.
#1070 [17:31] <mid> anyone have a cool world i can take a tour in?
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#1072 [17:31] <Tealite> hey anyone talking?
#1073 [17:31] <Smanly> werwew19: Just read it. Its much much easier once you do it the first time.
#1074 [17:31] <Mrc> Well there's my problem an "lammer" connect to my serveur and taunt us with a phantom menace of DDOS. He wanted to get unfair advantage in game. We gather information on him. Is there a way to report him?
#1075 [17:32] <Smanly> Not really
#1076 [17:32] <Smanly> Can you not just ban him and his IP?
#1077 [17:33] <Elystus> Mrc: He is probably a script kiddie. Just take down the server for a few days, and ban his ip.
#1078 [17:33] <Smanly> Few days? D:
#1079 [17:34] <Elystus> Smanly: To make the kid lose intrest.
#1080 [17:34] <Smanly> Yeah but days? I would say a few hours the most.
#1081 [17:34] <werwew19> Smanly how would I get modloader and other mods on this client?
#1082 [17:34] <Mrc> We have our Iptables rules and tarpit uptodate. And our machine can take on with a guy like him.
#1083 [17:35] <Mrc> Thank you for the answer.
#1084 [17:35] <Elystus> Mrc: just ip ban him then.
#1085 [17:35] <Smanly> werwew19 Have you read the thread about it? All you need to know is there.
#1086 [17:35] <Tealite> Can anyone suggest a good server for new players?
#1087 [17:35] <werwew19> Ok thanks
#1088 [17:35] <Mrc> Proxy. But it's not a problem. Tx
#1089 [17:36] <Mrc> Goodbye all.
#1090 [17:37] <Tealite> guess not lol
#1091 [17:37] <Smanly> Not sure that is allowed in this channel, tea
#1092 [17:38] <Smanly> Oh....
#1093 [17:44] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: He said no....................... :C
#1094 [17:44] <Smanly> Whats the problem?
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#1096 [17:44] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: I suspected he would.
#1097 [17:45] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Can you check to see if jre7 is in the java folder in System files
#1098 [17:45] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> sure
#1099 [17:45] <Smanly> Can you please change your nick, HELP-ME-PLEASE XD
#1100 [17:46] <Smanly> Its alarming
#1101 [17:46] <Elystus> ^
#1102 [17:46] <schizOo> hey
#1103 [17:46] <Smanly> Hi
#1104 [17:46] <schizOo> can someone help me with this error?
#1105 [17:46] <schizOo> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 -------- Generated 25.07.12 17:11 Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation LWJGL: 2.4.2 OpenGL: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series version 4.2.11733 Compa
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#1107 [17:46] <Kendecil> Hi
#1108 [17:47] <Smanly> Is that even an error
#1109 [17:47] <Smanly> ?
#1110 [17:47] <schizOo> y
#1111 [17:47] <Elystus> schizOo: please put it on pastebin.com
#1112 [17:47] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Smanley: idk how XD
#1113 [17:47] <schizOo> http://pastebin.com/4R17vukv
#1114 [17:47] <schizOo> sry
#1115 [17:47] <Smanly> ./nick
#1116 [17:47] <Smanly> ./nick <name>
#1117 [17:48] <schizOo> do u need additional informations?
#1118 [17:48] <Elystus> schizOo: When does it crash?
#1119 [17:48] <Kendecil> When I try to buy minecraft now it says: There was an error processing the payment
#1120 [17:48] <schizOo> after the mojang scrren on startup
#1121 [17:48] <schizOo> while/after**
#1122 [17:49] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> ./nick <LaVeNdEr_cAt>
#1123 [17:49] <schizOo> without the . ^^
#1124 [17:49] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#1125 [17:50] <Elystus> schizOo: The problem is either with your graphics card driver or the amount of memory allocated to minecraft. Lets get a diffrent style of error report to see if we can determine it.
#1126 [17:50] <Elystus> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#1127 [17:50] <Elystus> follow the directions there.
#1128 [17:50] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> Elystus: I am HEL ME PLEASE i just changed my name
#1129 [17:50] <Elystus> I saw.
#1130 [17:51] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> lol
#1131 [17:51] <Elystus> and toy didn't...
#1132 [17:51] <Smanly> You didnt...
#1133 [17:51] <Elystus> you*
#1134 [17:51] <schizOo> ok
#1135 [17:51] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
#1136 [17:51] <mid> are there any must have mods that need to be installed before creating a world?
#1137 [17:51] <Smanly> Not many
#1138 [17:51] <Kendecil> This chat doesn't support mods.
#1139 [17:52] <Smanly> ?
#1140 [17:52] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> im just gonna go since nothing is working im gonna go to the geek squad
#1141 [17:52] <Kendecil> But yeah.
#1142 [17:52] <mid> flying would be nice in survival mode
#1143 [17:52] <Smanly> I dont think geek squad will even know how to change your texture pack
#1144 [17:52] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: They won't know what to do...
#1145 [17:52] <Kendecil> Yeah, but that's what Creative Mode is for.
#1146 [17:52] <Smanly> mid You can get a flymod
#1147 [17:53] <Kendecil> And can I have some help?
#1148 [17:53] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> ik....... thats what i said but they insist......... :C
#1149 [17:53] <mid> true but would like to die by monsters from time to time to keep building exciting
#1150 [17:53] <Smanly> Kendecil There is not much we can help you with that.
#1151 [17:53] <mid> aye
#1152 [17:53] <Smanly> You will need to contact Mojang
#1153 [17:54] <mid> haha
#1154 [17:54] <Kendecil> For what?
#1155 [17:54] <mid> ok wel man thanks for helps cu
#1156 [17:54] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> how do i contact them
#1157 [17:54] <Smanly> Um "When I try to buy minecraft now it says: There was an error processing the payment"
#1158 [17:54] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: He wasn't talking to you.
#1159 [17:54] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> oh but still
#1160 [17:55] <schizOo> should i try all the steps or is one enough?
#1161 [17:55] <Kendecil> It'll take them months to respond.
#1162 [17:55] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: THey won't be able to help you with this. They will just send you here.
#1163 [17:55] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> IDK WHAT TO DO D:
#1164 [17:55] <Smanly> Oh god, so many conversations.
#1165 [17:55] <Elystus> schizOo: DId you get an error report? Also, I recommend using method three.
#1166 [17:55] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Follow my instructions and I can hopefully get it running.
#1167 [17:56] * Elystus is starting to have a headache.
#1167 [17:56] <Smanly> ^
#1168 [17:56] <Kendecil> Will as US Mastercard work through MC?
#1169 [17:56] <schizOo> http://pastebin.com/HhAnPWHC
#1170 [17:56] <Smanly> Kendecil I can check
#1171 [17:56] <schizOo> ill try method 3 now
#1172 [17:56] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> my parents wont let me do the teamveiw thing
#1173 [17:56] <Kendecil> Okay thanks.
#1174 [17:56] <Elystus> Kendecil: You may have to call your bank and allow overseas transaction.
#1175 [17:56] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: I have given you other instructions...
#1176 [17:56] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> oh okay
#1177 [17:57] <Kendecil> My mom and dad won't call the bank... -_-
#1178 [17:57] <Elystus> schizOo: Your best bet is to get new drivers for your graphics card.
#1179 [17:57] <schizOo> ok
#1180 [17:57] <Elystus> Kendecil: Sorry, but that is a problem between you and your parents.
#1181 [17:58] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> the java folder is in Program File (x86)
#1182 [17:58] <Kendecil> Yeah... I know...
#1183 [17:58] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Is there a java folder in Program files?
#1184 [17:58] <Elystus> and is it Jre7.
#1185 [17:58] <Elystus> ??>> schizOo win/dxdaig
#1186 [17:58] <Elystus> ??>> schizOo win/dxdiag
#1187 [17:58] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> yes
#1188 [17:58] <schizOo> ok
#1189 [17:58] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Okay, go back to the shortcut and paste what is in the target here.
#1190 [17:59] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> C:\Users\Owner\Downloads\Minecraft.exe
#1191 [17:59] <Elystus> .-. you never changed it....
#1192 [17:59] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> It kepp saying it not valid
#1193 [17:59] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> *keeps
#1194 [17:59] <schizOo> http://pastebin.com/jcb1xM38
#1195 [18:00] <Elystus> oh, okay well try this now:
#1196 [18:00] <Elystus> "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#1197 [18:00] <Elystus> schizOo: That was a pretty good graphics card when it came out ;)
#1198 [18:00] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> IT WORKED
#1199 [18:00] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: \o/
#1200 [18:00] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> ill try now
#1201 [18:01] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> didnt work
#1202 [18:01] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Did you use the shortcut...
#1203 [18:02] <Elystus> schizOo: Here are the latest drivers for you graphics card: pport.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx
#1204 [18:02] <Elystus> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx
#1205 [18:02] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> no but the icon got changed to java
#1206 [18:02] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> nvrm it changed back
#1207 [18:02] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: The shortcut was created for a reason... use it.
#1208 [18:02] <schizOo> y installing right now
#1209 [18:05] <schizOo> and to the gpu: ty. thats why i bought it ^^
#1210 [18:05] <Elystus> I jsut got the 7870 :D
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#1212 [18:05] <Elystus> <3
#1213 [18:06] <schizOo> nice ^^
#1214 [18:06] <schizOo> going to restart my pc
#1215 [18:07] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> IT WORKEDE YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
#1216 [18:07] <Elystus> HELP-ME-PLEASE: Mhmmm
#1217 [18:08] <Elystus> Btw, stop repeating characters :/
#1218 [18:08] <HELP-ME-PLEASE> sory its a haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabit
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#1220 [18:09] <Elystus> Welcome back :D
#1221 [18:09] <schizOo> ty
#1222 [18:10] <schizOo> still http://pastebin.com/3XVymfur
#1223 [18:10] <Elystus> schizOo: Do you have any mods installed.
#1224 [18:11] <schizOo> i deleted the bin folder many times. so there shouldn't be any ^^
#1225 [18:12] <Elystus> schizOo: Try a force update.
#1226 [18:13] <schizOo> tried it many times already. but trying it again
#1227 [18:13] <schizOo> same again
#1228 [18:13] <schizOo> http://pastebin.com/68stM1PC
#1229 [18:13] <Elystus> schizOo: Is there anything odd about your launcher?
#1230 [18:13] <Elystus> black anywhere or grey anywhere.
#1231 [18:14] <Elystus> before you log in.
#1232 [18:15] <schizOo> after starting the launcher window is black, then grey
#1233 [18:17] <Elystus> schizOo: Would you mind using teamviewer?
#1234 [18:17] <schizOo> no problem
#1235 [18:17] <schizOo> just have to install it
#1236 [18:17] <Elystus> okay, pm me the details when you are ready.
#1237 [18:22] <schizOo> phone call
#1238 [18:22] <schizOo> sry
#1239 [18:22] <Elystus> okay :) I will still be here when you get back.
#1240 [18:24] <schizOo> ok. back
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#1243 [18:26] <Lollipup> My minecraft is REALLY slow
#1244 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> try using Mojang's Minecraft instead.
#1245 [18:27] <Smanly> XD
#1246 [18:27] <Lollipup> whats that
#1247 [18:27] <DopeGhoti> the only one we support.
#1248 [18:27] <Smanly> Lollipup What are you computer specs?
#1249 [18:27] <Lollipup> My comouter Whats???
#1250 [18:27] <Smanly> ....
#1251 [18:28] <Lollipup> *computer
#1252 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> ??> Lollipup specs
#1253 [18:28] <VoxelHead> Lollipup: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1254 [18:28] <Lollipup> im both
#1255 [18:28] <Smanly> What?
#1256 [18:28] <Lollipup> and my laptop is a toshiba
#1257 [18:28] <bluetangkid> my son plays minecraft 24/7 and he just tried to log back in and his username and password are not working
#1258 [18:28] <Lollipup> and a windows 7
#1259 [18:29] <Smanly> bluetangkid did he try and reset his Pass?
#1260 [18:30] <Lollipup> hello???
#1261 [18:30] <Smanly> did you not read what VoxelHead said?
#1262 [18:30] <Smanly> -_-
#1263 [18:31] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: Do you recognise this error report?
#1264 [18:31] <Elystus> http://pastebin.com/3XVymfur
#1265 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> one moment please.
#1266 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> Java 1.7
#1267 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> fix that first.
#1268 [18:31] <Elystus> Already on it.
#1269 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> Mods?
#1270 [18:32] <GreyVulpine> If I didn't know any better, I'd say that's from a ! in the windows username
#1271 [18:32] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Thats what I thought. but a reinstall did nothing.
#1272 [18:32] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Its not .-.
#1273 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> What is the user profile name?
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#1275 [18:33] <bluetangkid> hello
#1276 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> If java 1.6 doesn't do it, follow win/profile
#1277 [18:33] <Elystus> Hold on..
#1278 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> bluetangkid: salutations.
#1279 [18:33] <DopeGhoti> bluetangkid: salutations.
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#1282 [18:34] <bluetangkid> hello
#1283 [18:34] <DopeGhoti> bluetangkid: salutations.
#1284 [18:35] <Smanly> lolwut
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#1286 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> bluetangkid: stop playing with the revolving door
#1287 [18:35] <Smanly> XD
#1288 [18:35] <bluetangkid> \
#1289 [18:35] <Smanly> bluetangkid did he try and reset his Pass?
#1290 [18:35] <bluetangkid> i cant
#1291 [18:35] <Smanly> Why is that?
#1292 [18:36] <bluetangkid> tits hacked
#1293 [18:36] <Smanly> Ah tits hacked
#1294 [18:36] <Smanly> The email is as well?
#1295 [18:36] <Smanly> Can you not recover the email?
#1296 [18:37] <bluetangkid> i was on the server playing and people were saying there was someone hacks
#1297 [18:37] <Smanly> And?
#1298 [18:37] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: It was mods -.- I told him to do a clean install, and he said he did.
#1299 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Heh, alright then
#1300 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: End-users lie like carpet.
#1301 [18:38] <bluetangkid> the server was hunger games a ip a.mc-hg.com well i died
#1302 [18:38] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: one look at the .minecraft revealed that it was heavily modded.
#1303 [18:38] <bluetangkid> went to another server
#1304 [18:38] <Smanly> Wait, what is your issue, bluetangkid?
#1305 [18:38] <bluetangkid> and it said bad login
#1306 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Back in Alpha, the ! in the windows username would actually throw a null pointer error like that
#1307 [18:38] <bluetangkid> tgant login its hacked thats issue
#1308 [18:39] <Smanly> Have you tried restarting minecraft?
#1309 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Now, nullpointers are because of poor modding
#1310 [18:39] <bluetangkid> i use mac
#1311 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> bluetangkid: are you ever going to answer any of the questions we ask of you?
#1312 [18:39] <Smanly> ^
#1313 [18:39] <bluetangkid> fine ill leave
#1314 [18:39] <Smanly> ...
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#1316 [18:39] <Smanly> That'll teach us!
#1317 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> Welcome back
#1318 [18:40] * GreyVulpine facepalms
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#1319 [18:40] <Smanly> hi?
#1320 [18:40] <bluetangkid> thi
#1321 [18:40] <Smanly> lol, someone has been playing MC alot
#1322 [18:40] <bluetangkid> tim used to t for chat
#1323 [18:40] <bluetangkid> tim used to t for chat
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#1325 [18:41] * GreyVulpine walks.. away.
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#1326 [18:45] * VoxelHead kicked bluetangkid from #minecrafthelp (Reason: luetangkid :Banned: You were warned about the revolving door. Banned for one hour to sort out your IRC client issues.)
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#1328 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Morning, Dan.
#1329 [18:50] <Elystus> Incompetent
#1330 [18:51] <Dan> its 4 pm over here
#1331 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> It's morning on half the planet, just round up.
#1332 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> incompetant - and seems to do all of his typing multiplayer chat
#1333 [18:52] <Smanly> lol, its not morning on half of the planet
#1334 [18:52] <Smanly> Ot day on half.
#1335 [18:52] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: can't complain too much about that. 20% of the time I was prefixing everything on IRC with 'say' for a while.
#1336 [18:52] <DiskDaemon> I wouldn't class things as being a troll yet though. He would have to put more effort in to achieve that yet :)
#1337 [18:53] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Almost done with the rewritten program. It is so much better this time.
#1338 [18:53] <Elystus> :P
#1339 [18:53] <DiskDaemon> Also, trolling implies that there's a direct intention that's involved in things, which I don't think quite applies in this situation
#1340 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> Nice, I look forward to trying to break it when you're done
#1341 [18:56] <DiskDaemon> Test it, I mean :)
#1342 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> heh
#1343 [18:56] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: I missed most of the discussion yesterday- what are you writing your script in?
#1344 [18:56] <Eddie> The intention is to get on my nerves
#1345 [18:57] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I challenge you to.
#1346 [18:57] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: C++
#1347 [18:57] <DopeGhoti> Challenge: accepted.
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#1349 [18:58] <Elystus> Btw DiskDaemon: I don't think the equation I did for the max amount of ram is that great.
#1350 [18:58] <Elystus> I can show it to you late. But that is easy to change
#1351 [18:58] <Elystus> later*
#1352 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> There were ... certain issues. Putting in a non-numeric value resulted in the maximum int number being used, for example :)
#1353 [18:59] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Already eliminated the possibility of nonnumerical values
#1354 [19:00] <Elystus> I rewrote the entire program.
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#1356 [19:05] <DopeGhoti> I'd be curious to see the source for your input sanitization.
#1357 [19:07] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: this? http://pastebin.com/w4EeAnW8
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#1359 [19:08] <Elystus> o/
#1360 [19:08] <Smanly> \O
#1361 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> Hm.
#1362 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> Won't a buffer overflow occur if you don't press enter?
#1363 [19:12] <Elystus> no
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#1365 [19:12] <timsdasdasd> hello
#1366 [19:13] <timsdasdasd> i need help
#1367 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> hi, Tim's grandpa.
#1368 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> how may we be of service?
#1369 [19:13] <timsdasdasd> wtf
#1370 [19:13] <timsdasdasd> umm my audio donest work
#1371 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> Are your speakers plugged in and turned on?
#1372 [19:13] <timsdasdasd> yes
#1373 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> Is your computer's volume set to nil?
#1374 [19:14] <timsdasdasd> you mean off?
#1375 [19:14] <xales> !define nil
#1376 [19:14] <xales> :|
#1377 [19:14] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Try to break what I have now
#1378 [19:14] <Elystus> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Memory%20allocator.exe
#1379 [19:14] <DiskDaemon> timsdasdasd: The audio is downloaded separately after starting the game. It might take a bit of time for it to all be retrieved
#1380 [19:14] <timsdasdasd> wait it works nowthanks
#1381 [19:14] <DopeGhoti> xales: ITYM .define. or was it ?Define ?
#1382 [19:14] <Smanly> ...
#1383 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> You're welcome, gramps.
#1384 [19:15] <timsdasdasd> it works thanks fuck
#1385 [19:15] * AuBot kicked timsdasdasd from #minecrafthelp (Reason: imsdasdasd :Please keep it civil.)
#1386 [19:15] <Smanly> XD
#1387 [19:15] <Elystus> -.-
#1388 [19:15] * DiskDaemon gets his boots on
#1388 [19:15] <xales> .define nil
#1389 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> ?define nil
#1390 [19:15] <VoxelHead> Noun (1/1) (n) nothing, nil, nix, nada, null, aught, cipher, cypher, goose egg, naught, zero, zilch, zip, zippo (a quantity of no importance) "it looked like nothing I had ever seen before"; "reduced to nil all the work we had done"; "we racked up a pathetic goose egg"; "it was all for naught"; "I didn't hear zilch about it"
#1391 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> looks like '?'.
#1392 [19:16] <DopeGhoti> for someone whom we managed to help so quickly, Tim's grandfather sure is rude.
#1393 [19:16] <Elystus> I agree
#1394 [19:17] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The MSVCP100.dll file is missing. The .exe won't run
#1395 [19:17] <DopeGhoti> also, can't test .exe binaries here. All POSIX here.
#1396 [19:17] <Elystus> Dammit, i gave you the wrong one .-.
#1397 [19:18] <DopeGhoti> also, I have to ask- why are your tabs so honking huge?
#1398 [19:18] <Elystus> Its pastebin that does that
#1399 [19:19] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/Memory%20allocator.exe
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#1401 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, he uses tabs instead of spaces. Tabs which break when out of their intended environment.
#1402 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> Hello, man.
#1403 [19:19] <Elystus> ^hippie
#1404 [19:19] <DopeGhoti> like, whoa and stuff.
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#1406 [19:20] <Jwerner34> hello?
#1407 [19:20] <DiskDaemon> Gah, so much red!
#1408 [19:20] <Jwerner34> Can someone help me?
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#1410 [19:20] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: You are doing something wrong then ;)
#1411 [19:20] <DopeGhoti> Jwerner34: not if you rely on our telepathy.
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#1413 [19:21] <DopeGhoti> how optimally speedy that JOIN event was.
#1414 [19:21] <Jwerner34> I tried to downlkoad a mod, PokeMob I think it is. Whell, anyway I used WinRAR to help but now when I try to open minecraft.jar, it wants me to reinstall WinRAR
#1415 [19:21] <OptimumVelocity> What the hell.
#1416 [19:22] <OptimumVelocity> Oh, I see.
#1417 [19:22] <OptimumVelocity> My Helloman892 got kicked.
#1418 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> well, firstly, WinRAR is a crummy program.
#1419 [19:22] <OptimumVelocity> Damn.
#1420 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> secondly:
#1421 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#1422 [19:22] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1423 [19:22] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1424 [19:22] <Jwerner34> can someone just help me, i cant uninstall it!
#1425 [19:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> Jwerner34 win/reinst
#1426 [19:23] <VoxelHead> Jwerner34: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1427 [19:23] <VoxelHead> Jwerner34: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1429 [19:23] <Kendecil> Hi
#1430 [19:23] <OptimumVelocity> Oh, it's you.
#1431 [19:23] <OptimumVelocity> It's Helloman892, by-the-way.
#1432 [19:23] <Kendecil> Ok
#1433 [19:23] <OptimumVelocity> IRC is being a dick.
#1434 [19:23] <Kendecil> lolk
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#1436 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: The memory allocator has now become an adventure game, where there screen says nothing but "Invalid input" to whatever I type
#1437 [19:24] <Kendecil> It still doesn't work... I need to keep asking my dad to call the dang bank.... it sucks.
#1438 [19:24] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: .-.
#1439 [19:24] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: type 1
#1440 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: And whatever you do, don'y type any non-numeric values after the number, because it loops endlessly about the memory number allocation then
#1441 [19:25] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: .-.
#1442 [19:25] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: look at your code. There is no case where it will not ultimately say 'Invalid input'
#1443 [19:25] <DiskDaemon> For example: "384mb"
#1444 [19:26] <DiskDaemon> Should I try to break it further?
#1445 [19:26] <Helloman892> There.
#1446 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> Also, WTF is up with mixing Style 1 and Style 2?
#1447 [19:26] * DopeGhoti shakes his head
#1447 [19:27] <DopeGhoti> at least there's no Style 3 in there
#1448 [19:28] <Elystus> i fixed it
#1449 [19:28] <Elystus> i put a space in somewhere
#1450 [19:30] <Helloman892> Unfortunatly, I never need help with Minecraft. I have Google.
#1451 [19:30] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I have made it take out all letters
#1452 [19:30] <Elystus> you can put in 384mb
#1453 [19:30] <Elystus> and it will output 384
#1454 [19:30] <Helloman892> Elystus, DiskDaemon: What exactly are you doing?
#1455 [19:31] <Elystus> Making a program
#1456 [19:31] <Helloman892> For?
#1457 [19:31] <xales> Elystus: But what if I want 2097152KB of RAM allocated to Minecraft? :(
#1458 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> next input test: '1,024MiB'
#1459 [19:31] <Helloman892> Oh, I see.
#1460 [19:31] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: You really should do it the other way. Make it keep only the numbers
#1461 [19:31] <DopeGhoti> next test after that: '1,000,000KB'
#1462 [19:32] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon: That's what she said.
#1463 [19:32] <Elystus> xales: it will say that the program will not allow you to allocate that mych and will ask you again.
#1464 [19:32] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: thats what it does :/
#1465 [19:32] <xales> Elystus: But what if I want to specify it in kilobits
#1466 [19:32] <xales> or kilobytes
#1467 [19:32] * DopeGhoti points up
#1467 [19:32] <Elystus> xales: too bad
#1468 [19:32] <xales> but kilobits are more practical of course
#1469 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> next test after that: '1,000,000KB'
#1470 [19:32] <DopeGhoti> next text after _that_: '1 000'
#1471 [19:33] <Elystus> curses, foiled by the comma -.-
#1472 [19:33] <Helloman892> Elystus: What is this program for?
#1473 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> bad Minecraft RAM allocation advice
#1474 [19:33] <Helloman892> OH.
#1475 [19:33] <Helloman892> I see.
#1476 [19:33] <DopeGhoti> IIIC, it generates Java launch paramaters
#1477 [19:33] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: I can't right-click on the text either, to copy/paste to pastebin for help and that kind of stuff, that users might need
#1478 [19:33] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: it won't be bad once I am done >_>
#1479 [19:33] <Helloman892> I understand now.
#1480 [19:34] <Helloman892> It's pretty simple, if you know a
#1481 [19:34] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: right click select all and enter
#1482 [19:34] <Helloman892> what you're doing* Typing fail.
#1483 [19:34] <Elystus> Helloman892: Yes, creating the parameters is.
#1484 [19:34] <Helloman892> Indeed.
#1485 [19:34] <DopeGhoti> If you're doing this on a console, why not use python?
#1486 [19:35] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: I don't like python
#1487 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> while ! alnum( memory ) :
#1488 [19:35] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: right-click doesn't seem to work with the one I have here. It works with the command prompt, but not your own one
#1489 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> er
#1490 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> is_numeric rather
#1491 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: alt-space -> edit -> mark ?
#1492 [19:35] <xales> DopeGhoti: Python uses "not" instead of '!' as well
#1493 [19:35] <xales> I...think.
#1494 [19:35] <DopeGhoti> IIRC both work
#1495 [19:35] <Helloman892> I could write a batch file for this really easily. Python is a little more difficult, but I could still do it.
#1496 [19:35] <xales> >>> if !true: "false"
#1497 [19:35] <xales> File "<stdin>", line 1
#1498 [19:35] <xales> if !true: "false"
#1499 [19:35] <xales> ^
#1500 [19:35] <xales> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
#1501 [19:35] <xales> :P
#1502 [19:36] <DopeGhoti> apparently IDRC
#1503 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> DopeGhoti: Yeah, but that's getting too difficult for your average user
#1504 [19:36] <Elystus> Helloman892: actually, you couldn't.... some of the stuff this program does can't be done via cmd prompt. Thats why I am doing it in C++/
#1505 [19:36] <xales> Helloman892: Given the lack of functionality of the Windows command interpreter, I'd say writing it in Python would be a far easier task. :p
#1506 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> Around here, the average declines quite steeply :)
#1507 [19:37] <Helloman892> Good point, xales. Elystus, all I've been told is that it allocates memory to Java for Minecraft etc.
#1508 [19:38] <Elystus> Helloman892: I don't feel like explaining the whole thing.
#1509 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> What was the saying? C++ doesn't give you enough rope to hang yourself, it waits until you think you're safe and then tears you apart limb from limb.
#1510 [19:38] <Helloman892> Alright.
#1511 [19:38] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: That is true lol
#1512 [19:39] * ac3xx_ [ac3xx_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1513 [19:40] <Helloman892> Well, Elystus, you can't bitch at me for not being told every feature of this program.
#1514 [19:40] <Elystus> Helloman892: I know :P
#1515 [19:40] <DopeGhoti> http://pastebin.com/kcufb7q2
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#1517 [19:41] <Helloman892> I see, DopeGhoti.
#1518 [19:44] <Helloman892> Now, I'm not pro with Python, but that just gives you 'Gimme' a number!' After which, if you input 96, the loop breaks and then scratch.py runs. And the loop is triggered by scratch.py, correct? At least, that's what I could gather by reading the code.
#1519 [19:44] <Helloman892> Or did I get that wrong?
#1520 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> more or less wrong
#1521 [19:45] <Helloman892> Alright.
#1522 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> that entire script is scratch.py; I just ran it and then `cat`ed the code
#1523 [19:45] <Helloman892> I'll have to get back into Python then, seeing as I only grazed the surface about 6 months ago.
#1524 [19:45] <DopeGhoti> it sets the input variable to something non-numeric, and then
#1525 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> as long as that variable is non-numeric, reads new input with the prompt
#1526 [19:46] <DopeGhoti> once it's numeric, the loop is done and it proceeds; the remainder of the program just spits out the final accepted input
#1527 [19:46] <Helloman892> I want to find out if it's possible to create a viable LUA program. And got it.
#1528 [19:46] <Helloman892> But I was right about the loop. Win.
#1529 [19:46] <Helloman892> First guess I ever got right.
#1530 [19:47] <DopeGhoti> perhaps you analysed it right in your head, and your hands got in the way of your assertion, because what you said it did made no sense (:
#1531 [19:47] <Helloman892> Yeah, true.
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#1533 [19:48] <DopeGhoti> anyhow: much cleaner'n C++ (:
#1534 [19:48] <Peter> hello>
#1535 [19:49] <Peter> anyone using mac?
#1536 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> millions of people worldwide.
#1537 [19:49] <Helloman892> So, scratch.py IS the loop, and if the input = an integer, then OOOH a customer.
#1538 [19:49] <Helloman892> No, but I can help you with Mac stuff.
#1539 [19:49] <Guest42879> iv just got mountain Lion and i cant download Minecraft cause it sais that is Damaged
#1540 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: scratch.py is the entire loop
#1541 [19:49] <DopeGhoti> ?? error
#1542 [19:49] <VoxelHead> error: It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#1543 [19:49] <VoxelHead> error: If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#1544 [19:49] * gerzel [gerzel@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1545 [19:49] <Guest42879> um anyone help?
#1546 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: http://pastebin.com/bTWA5vWq
#1547 [19:50] <xales> Guest42879: Please read what VoxelHead just said.
#1548 [19:50] <Helloman892> ??> Guest42879 error
#1549 [19:50] <VoxelHead> Guest42879: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#1550 [19:50] <VoxelHead> Guest42879: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#1551 [19:50] <Helloman892> Ok, thanks DopeGhoti
#1552 [19:50] <Helloman892> .
#1553 [19:50] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: cheers
#1554 [19:51] <Guest42879> its telling me to move the File to trash
#1555 [19:51] <Helloman892> Do so.
#1556 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> hold on
#1557 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> this sounds like Gatekeeper
#1558 [19:51] <Helloman892> DopeGhoti: Why?
#1559 [19:51] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1560 [19:51] <Helloman892> Gatekeeper is...?
#1561 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: Mountain Lion has a new UAC-like security program that prevents, by default, anything not from the App Store from running
#1562 [19:51] <DopeGhoti> with a really scary message.
#1563 [19:52] <Helloman892> Oh, thanks. That IS scary...
#1564 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Guest42879: please give us, _verbatim_, the _entire_ message.
#1565 [19:52] <Helloman892> Although, UAC is alot more user-friendly.
#1566 [19:52] <Helloman892> And less scary.
#1567 [19:52] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: so is Gatekeeper, if people would just stop engaging in selective literacy. Unless it's changed from developer previews, it tells yo how to make it go away.
#1568 [19:53] <Helloman892> Alright. Anyway, on with Guest42879's question.
#1569 [19:55] <Helloman892> ?? pastebin
#1570 [19:55] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1571 [19:55] <Helloman892> Aha.
#1572 [19:55] * Salihu [Salihu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1573 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> Guest42879: Does the message look like this? http://cargo.dcurt.is.s3.amazonaws.com/unsigned.jpg
#1574 [19:55] * Salihu [Salihu@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1575 [19:55] <DopeGhoti> (notwithstanding the different program name)
#1576 [19:56] <Guest42879> Voxel
#1577 [19:56] <Helloman892> VoxelHead is a bot.
#1578 [19:56] <Guest42879> is Minecraft Updated to OS X Mountain Lion?
#1579 [19:56] <VoxelHead> I just type quickly.
#1580 [19:56] <Helloman892> Really now.
#1581 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> Guest42879: Does the message look like this? http://cargo.dcurt.is.s3.amazonaws.com/unsigned.jpg
#1582 [19:56] <DopeGhoti> (notwithstanding the different program name)
#1583 [19:56] <Guest42879> no it dosent Dope
#1584 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> then, for the third time
#1585 [19:57] <Guest42879> its telling me too move to trash...
#1586 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> what _exactly_ does the message you're seeing say?
#1587 [19:57] <Helloman892> Guest42879: Minecraft will work on any OS, other then the older ones.
#1588 [19:57] <DopeGhoti> Word for word.
#1589 [19:57] <Guest42879> iok ok
#1590 [19:57] <Guest42879> ok
#1591 [19:57] <Guest42879> lemme re download..../
#1592 [19:57] * Brandi [Brandi@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1593 [19:57] <Guest42879> Minecraft” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the Trash.
#1594 [19:58] <Guest42879> Cancel Move To trasg?
#1595 [19:58] <Helloman892> Yes.
#1596 [19:58] * Elystus off to dinner
#1596 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> okay.
#1597 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> Cancel.
#1598 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> xales: Thank you Roy
#1599 [19:58] <Helloman892> Alright, Elystus.
#1600 [19:58] <Helloman892> Lol.
#1601 [19:58] <Guest42879> k now what?
#1602 [19:58] <Helloman892> Re-open it.
#1603 [19:58] <xales> DiskDaemon: :p
#1604 [19:58] <Guest42879> Dope what do i do now?
#1605 [19:58] <Helloman892> Also, you could just play the game here: http://www.minecraft.net/play.php/
#1606 [19:58] <DopeGhoti> open System Preferences
#1607 [19:58] <Guest42879> ok
#1608 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> click Security
#1609 [19:59] <Brandi> I just bought minecraft a few days ago and now it won't run, any ideas anybody?
#1610 [19:59] <Guest42879> done
#1611 [19:59] * TheNoodle puts Helloman892 in a box
#1611 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> do you see Gatekeeper?
#1612 [19:59] <Helloman892> Why, Noodle :D
#1613 [19:59] <Guest42879> no
#1614 [19:59] * TheNoodle sits on the box
#1614 [19:59] <TheNoodle> shhh :3
#1615 [19:59] * Helloman892 screams for help
#1615 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> Guest42879: on the first tab, you should see three radio buttons
#1616 [19:59] <DopeGhoti> one is labeled 'Anywhere'
#1617 [19:59] <Guest42879> 4
#1618 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> is 'Anywhere' selected?
#1619 [20:00] <xales> Brandi: What do you mean "won't run"?
#1620 [20:00] <Guest42879> no
#1621 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> Guest42879: select it.
#1622 [20:00] <Helloman892> Brandi: Is your Minecraft username Brandi?
#1623 [20:00] <DopeGhoti> then, if there's an Apply button, click it.
#1624 [20:00] <Guest42879> Dope i dont know where it is...
#1625 [20:00] <Helloman892> Answer xales first.
#1626 [20:00] <xales> Helloman892: It's not necessary to check that unless you have a reason to suspect otherwise. :p
#1627 [20:00] <Helloman892> xales, I know. Just asking.
#1628 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> Guest42879: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17tufb52mav6wjpg/original.jpg
#1629 [20:01] <Helloman892> Because I know a Brandi.
#1630 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> does it look like that?
#1631 [20:01] <Guest42879> K dope its done
#1632 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> okay
#1633 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> now that it's done, try running Minecraft again.
#1634 [20:01] <Brandi> I get to the menu and it won't go any further. It freezes...no that's not my username
#1635 [20:01] <Guest42879> ok
#1636 [20:01] <xales> Brandi: Did you try to install any mods or texture packs?
#1637 [20:01] <Guest42879> YAY
#1638 [20:01] <Guest42879> OMG THANKS
#1639 [20:01] <Guest42879> I LUV U
#1640 [20:01] <Brandi> no
#1641 [20:01] <Guest42879> !!!!
#1642 [20:01] <Helloman892> No problem.
#1643 [20:01] <DopeGhoti> That'll be $8.
#1644 [20:02] <xales> Brandi: What OS are you using?
#1645 [20:02] <Guest42879> LOL
#1646 [20:02] <Guest42879> OS X
#1647 [20:02] <xales> ??> Guest42879 only/you
#1648 [20:02] <VoxelHead> Guest42879: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#1649 [20:02] <VoxelHead> Guest42879: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#1650 [20:02] <Guest42879> ok
#1651 [20:02] <Guest42879> cya
#1652 [20:02] <DopeGhoti> ciao
#1653 [20:03] <Helloman892> Brandi: Are you using Windows?
#1654 [20:03] <Helloman892> ...
#1655 [20:03] <DopeGhoti> ??+ mac/gatekeeper|Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1656 [20:03] <Brandi> yes, vista home premium
#1657 [20:03] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1658 [20:04] <Helloman892> ??> Brandi win/dxdiag
#1659 [20:04] <VoxelHead> Brandi: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1660 [20:04] <VoxelHead> Brandi: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1661 [20:04] <Helloman892> Please do.
#1662 [20:04] <xales> Helloman892: If it's not a driver issue (in this case, it does not appear to be) just have them try to reinstall it.
#1663 [20:04] <Helloman892> Yeah, but it freezes. I want to check his graphics etc.
#1664 [20:05] <Helloman892> Thanks very much.
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#1666 [20:05] <Helloman892> I can request what I wish (within reason) if trying to help someone, xales.
#1667 [20:06] <xales> Helloman892: But you shouldn't waste time with something that is very unlikely to be the problem, especially something more on the "involved" side (such as dxdiag).
#1668 [20:07] <fitter> tried to download too many items and cant get on now
#1669 [20:07] <xales> ??> fitter causality
#1670 [20:07] <VoxelHead> fitter: (causality) If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#1671 [20:07] <VoxelHead> fitter: (causality) Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#1672 [20:07] <Helloman892> xales: Fine. Hey, as said earlier. I'm not exactly experienced with this 'helping' business.
#1673 [20:08] <xales> Helloman892: I know, and that's why you should listen and not deny what people suggest. :)
#1674 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: we're just trying to help you help us help them all
#1675 [20:08] <Brandi> whats an IRC channel?
#1676 [20:08] <Helloman892> ...
#1677 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Brandi: you're in one.
#1678 [20:08] <Brandi> http://webchat.esper.net/?channels=minecrafthelp
#1679 [20:08] <Helloman892> ??> Brandi IRC
#1680 [20:08] <DiskDaemon> ?? irc
#1681 [20:08] <VoxelHead> Brandi: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#1682 [20:08] <VoxelHead> Brandi: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#1683 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> No, what I was after was this...
#1684 [20:09] <DiskDaemon> ?? irc/channel
#1685 [20:09] <Helloman892> A channel is something like #minecraft or #minecrafthelp (this one)
#1686 [20:09] <xales> DiskDaemon: It's...yeah, that.
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#1688 [20:09] <Helloman892> ??> Brandi irc/channel
#1689 [20:09] <VoxelHead> Brandi: (irc/channel) You're in one.
#1690 [20:09] <Helloman892> Lolzorz.
#1691 [20:10] <gmeiners> I am a nube looking for some help... how do I save my world?
#1692 [20:10] <Helloman892> gmeiners: It automatically savs whenever you pause the game.
#1693 [20:10] <Helloman892> saves*
#1694 [20:10] <DopeGhoti> gmeiners: it's saves constantly as you play.
#1695 [20:11] <Helloman892> Also, ^
#1696 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> Internet Relay Chat. It's the where/how/what of what we're doing. Where = Internet, how = relay, and what = chat.
#1697 [20:11] <gmeiners> Okay so How do I pause the game so it saves?
#1698 [20:11] <Helloman892> gmeiners: The escape key.
#1699 [20:12] <Helloman892> Usually at the top-left of a keyboard.
#1700 [20:13] * donna [donna@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1701 [20:13] <donna> anyone there
#1702 [20:13] <Helloman892> Yes, us.
#1703 [20:13] <Helloman892> What is your question?
#1704 [20:14] <donna> i purchased minecraft and it will not et me play it keeps saying i need to buy itand i already did
#1705 [20:14] <Helloman892> What is your Minecraft username?
#1706 [20:14] <xales> donna: How long ago did you purchase it?
#1707 [20:14] <Helloman892> And ^
#1708 [20:14] <lemon-rev> donna it can take some time to go though ie the money mojang still needs to process your $
#1709 [20:14] * LunarDoom [LunarDoom@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1710 [20:14] <donna> about 2 hrs ago...Rustymp
#1711 [20:15] <Helloman892> !paid Rustymp
#1712 [20:15] <Helloman892> There.
#1713 [20:15] <xales> donna: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1714 [20:15] <donna> this is the 3rd time i have paid 26.00 and it never lets me play
#1715 [20:15] <LunarDoom> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: ModLoader.serverConnect(Ladl;Laec;)V at adl.a(NetClientHandler.java:111) at aec.a(SourceFile:68) at lg.b(NetworkManager.java:343) at adl.b(NetClientHandler.java:69) at ajy.a(SourceFile:45) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.k(Minecraft.java:1572) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.x(Minecraft.java:822) at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Minecraft.java:750) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown S
#1716 [20:16] <xales> donna: Have you checked with your financial institution that the transaction has been completed successfully, and not denied?
#1717 [20:16] <Helloman892> ??> LunarDoom pastebin
#1718 [20:16] <VoxelHead> LunarDoom: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1719 [20:16] <LunarDoom> i have modloadermp modloader and forge on
#1720 [20:16] <LunarDoom> kk
#1721 [20:16] <donna> yes i also have a cfrm number from the minecraft sight
#1722 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> LunarDoom: I'm sorry, but we don't provide mod support in this channel
#1723 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> ??> LunarDoom mods
#1724 [20:17] <VoxelHead> LunarDoom: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1725 [20:17] <VoxelHead> LunarDoom: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1726 [20:17] <xales> donna: There is a bug where, if you ignore the "payment failed" screen and click OK, it will take you to minecraft.net and tell you it was successful, even though it was not.
#1727 [20:17] <LunarDoom> im sorry
#1728 [20:17] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon: I was pointing him/her to pastebon, due to the fact that I could point it out.
#1729 [20:17] <Helloman892> pastebin*
#1730 [20:17] <xales> donna: Check with your bank that the transaction was made successfully. If it was, then you just need to wait patiently until your account is marked premium.
#1731 [20:18] <LunarDoom> http://pastebin.com/Rut8rYTv
#1732 [20:18] <donna> ok so what do i do cause im tired of this
#1733 [20:18] <donna> is there a phone number i can call
#1734 [20:18] <xales> donna: No.
#1735 [20:18] <xales> donna: Did your bank tell you that the transaction was made successfully?
#1736 [20:18] <donna> so the sight can take my money and thats it
#1737 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> donna: What was the payment made with?
#1738 [20:19] <Helloman892> LunarDoom: That is a ModLoader problem with SMP connection. Can't help you there, sorry.
#1739 [20:19] <donna> a visa card
#1740 [20:19] <xales> donna: Credit card? Debit card? Gift card?
#1741 [20:19] <donna> prepaid card
#1742 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> donna: From america?
#1743 [20:19] <donna> yes
#1744 [20:19] <LunarDoom> http://pastebin.com/x7PqZH9d thats the full text file
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#1746 [20:19] <DiskDaemon> prepaid cards in america tend not to be allowed to be used for international transactions.
#1747 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> ?? prepaid
#1748 [20:20] <VoxelHead> prepaid: Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
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#1750 [20:20] <donna> but why does it take the money from the card then
#1751 [20:20] <xales> donna: It doesn't.
#1752 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> donna: If by chance it was successful, there will be a transaction id associated with the payment.
#1753 [20:20] <xales> Prepaid cards cannot be used for international transactions, this is a *law* in the US.
#1754 [20:20] <donna> im confused caue its taking the money so its going to someone
#1755 [20:21] <Helloman892> ??> donna prepaid
#1756 [20:21] <VoxelHead> donna: (prepaid) Prepaid or gift credit cards will generally not work for purchasing Minecraft, because their fraud prevention klobbers international transactions.
#1757 [20:21] <xales> donna: It could not possibly be taking the money.
#1758 [20:21] <donna> then why do i have a cnfrm number saying that my payment was succefull
#1759 [20:21] <xales> donna: I already told you why.
#1760 [20:21] <Helloman892> Oh sorry, didn't see that already, XD.
#1761 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> donna: Call the number on your card, and find out from the financial company waht it going on.
#1762 [20:21] <xales> If you ignore the "Payment failed" page, and click okay, there is a bug where it will tell you it was successful.
#1763 [20:22] <Helloman892> When in fact, it isn't.
#1764 [20:22] <donna> i see so i can only get it with a real credit or debit card
#1765 [20:22] <xales> donna: That is correct.
#1766 [20:22] <donna> what about the classic version is that free
#1767 [20:22] <xales> That is free, yes.
#1768 [20:23] <donna> how do i get to play that
#1769 [20:23] <xales> http://minecraft.net/classic/play
#1770 [20:23] <xales> There is a link on minecraft.net
#1771 [20:23] <Helloman892> But, it is extremely limited in usage.
#1772 [20:23] <donna> so i just go on that link and we can play? for how long can u play for
#1773 [20:23] <donna> its for my son not me
#1774 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> until you get bored?
#1775 [20:23] <Helloman892> For ever.
#1776 [20:23] <Helloman892> It's crap, compared to the full game.
#1777 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: that might be writing a check we can't cash
#1778 [20:24] <donna> what does limited usage mean then
#1779 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> mojang could take classic down at any time
#1780 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> donna: it's not full-featured
#1781 [20:24] <Helloman892> Alright.
#1782 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> it's also older code
#1783 [20:24] <DopeGhoti> nor is it supported
#1784 [20:24] <xales> donna: Classic is now very, very old and lacks nearly all of the features of the full game.
#1785 [20:24] <Helloman892> Until they take it down.
#1786 [20:24] <xales> Helloman892: It'll probably be taken down when 1.3 comes out, because that will have a proper demo.
#1787 [20:24] <xales> If I had to guess, anyway.
#1788 [20:24] <donna> oh i see is it safe for the computer
#1789 [20:24] <xales> donna: Uh, yes.
#1790 [20:24] <Helloman892> xales: Of course.
#1791 [20:25] <donna> lol i dont know about this stuff
#1792 [20:25] <Helloman892> donna: What would of given you the idea that it wasn't?
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#1794 [20:25] <xales> Helloman892: Would have*
#1795 [20:25] <donna> cause i been thinking thi sight has been robbing me for my money
#1796 [20:25] <Helloman892> donna: It's called a SITE.
#1797 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> donna: if you suspect that to be the case, feel free to have your card issue reverse the charges.
#1798 [20:26] <donna> ya i know site i type fast
#1799 [20:26] <Helloman892> ...
#1800 [20:26] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1801 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> We're just vulunteer supporters here and have nothing to do with the company producing and selling the game
#1802 [20:26] <donna> ok well thank u all for your help
#1803 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> donna: Are you using the same username when you try to pay?
#1804 [20:26] <Helloman892> I concur. No problem.
#1805 [20:26] <DopeGhoti> (you can type 'site' faster with four letters than five. Just saying.)
#1806 [20:27] <Helloman892> DopeGhoti: Volunteer*
#1807 [20:27] <Helloman892> :P
#1808 [20:28] <LunarDoom> hi, my minecraft works to the point that only the mutiplayer frezes when joining any server (my own) that worked before i installed mods and the data is here http://pastebin.com/x7PqZH9d please help me with a fix i beg you
#1809 [20:29] <Helloman892> ??> LunarDoom mods
#1810 [20:29] <VoxelHead> LunarDoom: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1811 [20:29] <VoxelHead> LunarDoom: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1812 [20:29] <xales> LunarDoom: We can tell you how to remove the mods, but that's it.
#1813 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> LunarDoom: You can get help with forge from #minecraftforge
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#1815 [20:30] <Helloman892> LunarDoom: ModLoader is having an issue with Forge.
#1816 [20:31] <LunarDoom> is there a patch to make it work hello?
#1817 [20:31] <Helloman892> I'd Google it.
#1818 [20:31] <LunarDoom> i tryed
#1819 [20:31] <xales> LunarDoom: I believe Forge now includes ModLoader, and you should not even install it.
#1820 [20:31] <xales> But I may be wrong.
#1821 [20:32] <Helloman892> Exactly.
#1822 [20:32] <xales> Ask in #minecraftforge
#1823 [20:32] <DiskDaemon> LunarDoom: You can get help with forge issues from #minecraftforge
#1824 [20:32] <LunarDoom> i went there to
#1825 [20:32] <LunarDoom> muti chating for maxium effeincy (bad spelling please forgive)
#1826 [20:33] <Helloman892> LunarDoom: I'm afraid that we can't fix your problem. This channel is for general Minecraft/Mojang.com help.
#1827 [20:34] <LunarDoom> ok, im sorry
#1828 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> If you return your installation back to a clean one without modding, we can help you from there.
#1829 [20:37] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon: He headed onto #minecraftforge.
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#1831 [20:37] <Helloman892> Hello, McSkySearch.
#1832 [20:39] <xales> Helloman892: You scared him away! :(
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#1834 [20:39] <Helloman892> No.
#1835 [20:39] <McSkySearch> sorry i didnt know how to chat
#1836 [20:40] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1837 [20:40] <Helloman892> What is your question?
#1838 [20:40] <McSkySearch> how do get my .minecraft folder back?
#1839 [20:40] <Helloman892> ...
#1840 [20:40] <xales> McSkySearch: Do you mean "I deleted it and I want it back"?
#1841 [20:40] <McSkySearch> yes
#1842 [20:40] <Helloman892> Run minecraft.exe. It will regenerate.
#1843 [20:40] <xales> McSkySearch: Did you make a backup of it?
#1844 [20:40] <McSkySearch> no
#1845 [20:41] <xales> McSkySearch: Is it in your Recycle Bin/Trash?
#1846 [20:41] <McSkySearch> no
#1847 [20:41] <Helloman892> McSkySearch: Run it.
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#1849 [20:41] <xales> McSkySearch: Then you can't get it back.
#1850 [20:41] <xales> You can get a new one by re-running Minecraft.
#1851 [20:41] <McSkySearch> aww
#1852 [20:41] <Helloman892> xales: I- Yeah.
#1853 [20:41] <McSkySearch> how do i get minecraft again
#1854 [20:41] <Helloman892> www.minecraft.net/download
#1855 [20:42] <McSkySearch> then
#1856 [20:42] <Helloman892> Press 'Minecraft.exe'.
#1857 [20:42] <McSkySearch> next?
#1858 [20:42] <Helloman892> Download it, run it.
#1859 [20:42] <McSkySearch> ok
#1860 [20:43] <Helloman892> Now login, and it will download the game.
#1861 [20:43] <McSkySearch> ok
#1862 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/client
#1863 [20:43] <VoxelHead> win/client: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#1864 [20:43] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon: Was that really necessary?
#1865 [20:44] <McSkySearch> and then how do i go to it?
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#1867 [20:44] <Helloman892> ......
#1868 [20:44] <Helloman892> How did you get the game in the first place?
#1869 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> Helloman892: It might be :)
#1870 [20:44] <McSkySearch> in minecraft.net
#1871 [20:44] <Helloman892> Oh. My. GOD.
#1872 [20:45] <Helloman892> To play the game without the launcher, www.minecraft.net/play.php.
#1873 [20:45] <McSkySearch> when i go to it it says not found
#1874 [20:45] <Helloman892> www.
#1875 [20:45] <Helloman892> Fail.
#1876 [20:45] <Helloman892> ...
#1877 [20:46] <Helloman892> I fail.
#1878 [20:46] <Helloman892> www.minecraft.net/play
#1879 [20:46] <Helloman892> There
#1880 [20:47] <Helloman892> Well, regardless, time for more sack-hitting, DopeGhoti :>
#1881 [20:47] <Disori> McSkySearch, download Minecraft.exe from the download section. Save it to desktop or something, double click it. A launcher asking for your username/pass will probably pop up. Input those two things. It should download the things you need and get started
#1882 [20:47] <McSkySearch> thank you guys so much
#1883 [20:48] <Helloman892> No problem.
#1884 [20:48] <Helloman892> I'm getting better at this.
#1885 [20:50] <Disori> Takes patience, and intelligence
#1886 [20:50] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#1887 [20:50] <Helloman892> I have the last part covered.
#1888 [20:51] <Helloman892> But not the first. Goddamn it.
#1889 [20:51] <Helloman892> Sack-hitting time.
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#1891 [20:52] <CreeperInferno> anyone here?
#1892 [20:52] <lemon-rev> no
#1893 [20:52] <CreeperInferno> i have a question regarding my account...
#1894 [20:52] <lemon-rev> ok
#1895 [20:53] <CreeperInferno> r u mod or support?
#1896 [20:53] <lemon-rev> no
#1897 [20:53] <CreeperInferno> well than im waiting for 1
#1898 [20:53] <xales> CreeperInferno: If you don't say, specifically, what you need help with, then nobody will help you.
#1899 [20:53] <lemon-rev> for what mod a bukkit or some other type of mod you might join that channel instead this is just vinia minecraft help
#1900 [20:54] <CreeperInferno> I was not aware that my account username would be shown online and i wanted to transfer premium..
#1901 [20:54] <CreeperInferno> not refund, just transfer to another account.
#1902 [20:54] <lemon-rev> you need to talk to mojang about that, not sure how you go about that thou
#1903 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> It's not possible to change your username. That would allow too many people to avoid ban lists.
#1904 [20:55] <CreeperInferno> I sent an email to mojang couple weeks ago, never replied to me. So what can I do?
#1905 [20:55] <CreeperInferno> Disk
#1906 [20:55] <CreeperInferno> I have an account already
#1907 [20:55] <CreeperInferno> and im not banned to any server
#1908 [20:55] <DiskDaemon> CreeperInferno: However, Mojang also provide information on the topic http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329525-can-i-change-my-username-
#1909 [20:55] <CreeperInferno> u can check
#1910 [20:56] <CreeperInferno> its not username change its account premium transfer
#1911 [20:56] <CreeperInferno> transfer peterpalka Premium to CreeperInferno
#1912 [20:56] <CreeperInferno> please if u can
#1913 [20:57] <lemon-rev> we are not mojang, we cant directly help with account problems
#1914 [20:57] <lemon-rev> we can only surgest things
#1915 [20:57] <xales> CreeperInferno: It is not currently possible to change your account name.
#1916 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> CreeperInferno: No, mojang don't allow that to happen either. IIRC they make it very clear before you purchase too.
#1917 [20:57] <xales> It may be in the future, but it is not possible at this time.
#1918 [20:57] <CreeperInferno> Not account name
#1919 [20:58] <CreeperInferno> what am i supposed too do? i payed fricken 30$ for the game...
#1920 [20:58] <CreeperInferno> well 26.99 or whatever
#1921 [20:58] <DiskDaemon> On the register page, the field is called: "Username and display name"
#1922 [20:59] <CreeperInferno> ... i thought on the forums
#1923 [20:59] <CreeperInferno> not on Multiplayer
#1924 [20:59] <CreeperInferno> ...
#1925 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> where would you think it was going to be displayed?
#1926 [20:59] <CreeperInferno> Idk i was new to MC
#1927 [20:59] <CreeperInferno> treat me nicer
#1928 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> The mistake has happened. The most he can do is to contact Mojang directly and hope that they are amenable to his situation.
#1929 [21:00] <CreeperInferno> like even check I have NO banns on servers...
#1930 [21:00] <CreeperInferno> i have my own server...
#1931 [21:00] <xales> DiskDaemon: I've heard that as a rule, they just don't do it. If they do it for one person they have to do it for everyone, and all that.
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#1933 [21:01] <Disori> Lol I had the same problem too, eventually I just decided to stick with it
#1934 [21:01] <CreeperInferno> Thanks for the help. …
#1935 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> xales: That's a good point.
#1936 [21:01] <CreeperInferno> So am I supposed to do, buy a new Minecraft account. You're ridiculous.
#1937 [21:01] <xales> CreeperInferno: You are the one who made the mistake, you can't blame others for your inability to resolve it.
#1938 [21:01] <CreeperInferno> I don't have like $30 to just throw away seriously
#1939 [21:02] <xales> ??> CreeperInferno attitude
#1940 [21:02] <VoxelHead> CreeperInferno: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1941 [21:02] <VoxelHead> CreeperInferno: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1942 [21:02] <lemon-rev> CreeperInferno i just told you a little while ago we arent mojang, we can only help so far
#1943 [21:02] <DopeGhoti> CreeperInferno: what is so horrible about the account name you selected anyhow?
#1944 [21:02] <CreeperInferno> Sorry, I'm just so frustrated, please ignore me I'm really sorry about what I do
#1945 [21:02] <CreeperInferno> Did*
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#1947 [21:02] <CreeperInferno> Welcome
#1948 [21:02] <danny> hi
#1949 [21:03] <CreeperInferno> How may I assist you danny
#1950 [21:03] <danny> after 2 hours i am still not premium
#1951 [21:03] <Disori> You could just stick with the name. Anyways, it's just a game, will a name matter that much? If you really despise the name, you could _try_ emailing them, or buying a new one
#1952 [21:03] <Disori> danny, are you sure you paid?
#1953 [21:03] <CreeperInferno> , Whatever I try I have to go, see you later
#1954 [21:03] <DopeGhoti> ?? purchase
#1955 [21:03] <danny> yep
#1956 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> Dan: Please read http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1957 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> Dan: pardon.
#1958 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> danny: See ^
#1959 [21:03] <CreeperInferno> I email them, but I haven't got a reply... it's been like a month
#1960 [21:04] <CreeperInferno> Anyways, see you
#1961 [21:04] <Disori> CreeperInferno, well good luck
#1962 [21:04] <CreeperInferno> Hope you enjoy helping other people, I have to go bye.
#1963 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> CreeperInferno: This may help - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1964 [21:04] <CreeperInferno> Oh, I'm sorry for being a jerk.... cya
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#1968 [21:05] <Ckoockoo> hi
#1969 [21:05] <Disori> Odd..
#1970 [21:05] <Disori> Hoi
#1971 [21:05] <Ckoockoo> anyone there?
#1972 [21:05] <Ckoockoo> oh hi
#1973 [21:05] <DopeGhoti> no, I'm here. you are there.
#1974 [21:05] <Ckoockoo> lol
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#1976 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> glad to have helped?
#1977 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> This has been a very surreal day here in #minecrafthelp.
#1978 [21:11] <Elystus> its been a little odd....
#1979 [21:12] <Disori> I'm never here so I wouldn't know
#1980 [21:17] <Denizen> i just idle
#1981 [21:17] <Denizen> and i was gone for hours
#1982 [21:17] <Denizen> so
#1983 [21:17] <Denizen> i have no clue what was going on
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#1985 [21:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> dope: the derpery has gone to plaid?
#1986 [21:21] <|Kiikun|Janus|> dope: the derpery has gone to plaid?
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#1988 [21:23] <|Anthony|> i'm having an issue with spoutcraft. Before you tell me go ask in #spout... i did. they had suggested (earlier) that the issue i'm experiencing is related to mc code, not theirs here is a pastebin. not sure if it captured it all, but the last bit is the start of issues. http://pastebin.com/sNyYnaz1
#1989 [21:23] <|Anthony|> Too many open files
#1990 [21:23] <|Anthony|> would seem as though sockets are opened and not closing
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#1992 [21:23] <xales> |Anthony|: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-nginx-too-many-open-files/ It's for nginx, but still applies
#1993 [21:24] <xales> You need only do the limits.conf and sysctl.conf part
#1994 [21:24] <xales> (and possibly restart your session)
#1995 [21:25] <|Anthony|> so what would a safe limit be? i kinda have the feeling that regardless of the limit i set, it will be reached.
#1996 [21:26] <|Anthony|> would an lsof -p output be helpful to the situation?
#1997 [21:29] <xales> |Anthony|: Uhh, I'd just say double it every time you hit the limit
#1998 [21:33] <|Anthony|> the limit exists for a reason though, doesn't it?
#1999 [21:33] <|Anthony|> lmao
#2000 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> indeed
#2001 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> let me look at that log real quick
#2002 [21:33] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/sNyYnaz1
#2003 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> |Anthony|: could you run `ulimit` and pastebin the output please?
#2004 [21:34] <|Anthony|> lsof -p <java pid>
#2005 [21:34] <|Anthony|> same thing right?
#2006 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> nope
#2007 [21:34] <DopeGhoti> different thing entirely
#2008 [21:34] * |Anthony| facepalms
#2008 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> actually, better
#2009 [21:35] <DopeGhoti> `ulimit -a`
#2010 [21:36] <DopeGhoti> xales: I suspect the shell provider has a file handle limit in place. If so, that's between Tony and his server host.
#2011 [21:36] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/wYBFm8vu
#2012 [21:36] <|Anthony|> i am the server host
#2013 [21:36] <|Anthony|> hehe
#2014 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> okay, I have exactly those results on my server, and am able to run Minecraft with no problem whatsoever
#2015 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> Try running a vanilla server, and see if it works
#2016 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> I suspect it will
#2017 [21:37] <|Anthony|> this is my client crashing... not the server
#2018 [21:38] <|Anthony|> hehe
#2019 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> if this is the case, the problem is in fact with the mod, or its configuration
#2020 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> this is a modded client
#2021 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> try a vanilla client
#2022 [21:38] <|Anthony|> i'm using spoutcraft
#2023 [21:38] <|Anthony|> the vanilla mc client runs fine
#2024 [21:38] <|Anthony|> no issues
#2025 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> then the problem is not with Minecraft and we cannot help you.
#2026 [21:38] <DopeGhoti> this is SEP
#2027 [21:38] <|Anthony|> i asked in #spout they said that it might be in mc code
#2028 [21:38] <|Anthony|> which they use
#2029 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> If vanilla works, then it's clearly not a problem with vanilla
#2030 [21:39] <|Anthony|> viscous circle
#2031 [21:39] <|Anthony|> i figured as much
#2032 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> sorry :/
#2033 [21:39] <|Anthony|> they don't want to hear it
#2034 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> one question-
#2035 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> which JRE are you using?
#2036 [21:39] <|Anthony|> openjdk
#2037 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> try oracle's latest 1.6 JRE
#2038 [21:39] <DopeGhoti> ?? getjava
#2039 [21:39] <|Anthony|> argh
#2040 [21:39] <VoxelHead> getjava: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2041 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> note: not 1.7
#2042 [21:40] <|Anthony|> i really didn't want to have to do that
#2043 [21:40] <|Anthony|> it's like 99% the same code base though isn't it?
#2044 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> mostly, but that 1% could make the difference
#2045 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> I personally use OpneJDK with no issue
#2046 [21:41] <|Anthony|> yeah... i know
#2047 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> but I have seen switching to Sun/Oracle JRE fix problems
#2048 [21:41] <Rikairchy> OpenJDK = win
#2049 [21:41] <Rikairchy> for my server anyways
#2050 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> and I have definiely seen switching from 1.7 to 1.6 fix issues.
#2051 [21:41] <Elystus> It does
#2052 [21:41] <|Anthony|> lol
#2053 [21:42] <|Anthony|> mc isn't written for 1.7
#2054 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> precisely.
#2055 [21:42] <|Anthony|> lmao
#2056 [21:42] <|Anthony|> "but i have the latest java!"
#2057 [21:42] <DopeGhoti> not that it's written all that well for 1.6, but we digress.
#2058 [21:42] <|Anthony|> lol
#2059 [21:42] <|Anthony|> ;)
#2060 [21:43] * |Anthony| reluctantly goes to install sunjdk...
#2060 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> So, to sum up, my recommendations: Try vanilla. Try Oracle JRE 1.6. If those work, and it still breaks as soon as you add or switch to Spout, then.. well:
#2061 [21:43] <DopeGhoti> ?? causality
#2062 [21:43] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#2063 [21:43] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#2064 [21:43] * GreyVulpine snrks
#2064 [21:45] <DopeGhoti> Adieu, heading homeward
#2065 [21:45] <Elystus> o/
#2066 [21:45] <|Anthony|> thanks for the help sir
#2067 [21:50] * Elystus goes back to fixing his program
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#2070 [21:55] <Fool> Alright I need to know why you don't have a chest in pocket edition
#2071 [21:58] <Fool> Why nobody helping me
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#2074 [21:59] <Disori> Because that wasnt a plea for help
#2075 [22:00] <Elystus> Fool: None of us work for Mojang. We do not dictate what is in the game.
#2076 [22:00] <Fool> I need a chest in pocket edition
#2077 [22:00] <Disori> Too bad, we can't hlep you with that
#2078 [22:00] <Disori> Go ask jeb or something
#2079 [22:00] <Elystus> Disori: be nice about it ;/
#2080 [22:01] <B3AST5> i have downloaded minecraft and for some reason it ALWAYS gets stuck in the middle of updating because i reset it hoping it would work
#2081 [22:01] <Fool> Who jeb
#2082 [22:01] <ShaRose> don't bug jeb
#2083 [22:01] <ShaRose> pocket edition is done by a different team
#2084 [22:01] <Elystus> B3AST5: Disable your anti-virus then try again.
#2085 [22:01] <Fool> Tell me who jeb is
#2086 [22:01] <ShaRose> and they are planning on adding all the blocks from the PC version
#2087 [22:01] <ShaRose> Fool no
#2088 [22:01] <Elystus> Fool: Jeb is the lead developer for Minecraft. Please do not bug him.
#2089 [22:02] <Elystus> Fool: He will jsut ignore any tweets you send him.
#2090 [22:02] <Fool> I'll bug whoever thefuck I want
#2091 [22:02] * AuBot kicked Fool from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ool :Please keep it civil.)
#2092 [22:02] <B3AST5> thank you
#2093 [22:02] <Disori> Interesting..
#2094 [22:03] <Elystus> some people >_>
#2095 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> fool: Nobody here works for Mojang. I'm a civilian from New Zealand, for example.
#2096 [22:03] <Elystus> Lol, a little late on that one disk.
#2097 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> I seem to be quite skilled at doing that
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#2103 [22:08] <ted_> i deleted my minecraft folder and cant et it back
#2104 [22:08] <ted_> get
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#2109 [22:38] <nick> hello?
#2110 [22:39] <nick> hhhheeeelllooo
#2111 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> hi there
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#2113 [22:40] <nickneedshelp> anyonehere
#2114 [22:41] <Wug> yes
#2115 [22:41] <Wug> describe your problem
#2116 [22:45] <nickneedshelp> my account not updating
#2117 [22:45] <nickneedshelp> to poremium
#2118 [22:46] <nickneedshelp> Purchase Complete! Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour. Receipt Please save this information, it is useful if you were ever to contact support. Upon processing your payment a receipt regarding the transaction will be sent by e-mail, please store this information as well. ACCOUNT gamesmind2 ORDER 03cc9b8db35b441d837f5173ced3ab79
#2119 [22:46] <nickneedshelp> see all my stuff
#2120 [22:46] <Elystus> Thats your uuid code
#2121 [22:46] <Elystus> \That doesn't mean the purchase went through. Also, don't give it out.
#2122 [22:46] <nickneedshelp> o srry
#2123 [22:47] <Smanly> Ok
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#2128 [22:59] <mitchelliscool> I Have Bad Video Drivers
#2129 [22:59] <Smanly> Update them?
#2130 [23:00] <mitchelliscool> I Dont Know How To Update them
#2131 [23:00] <Smanly> Do you know your video card?
#2132 [23:01] <mitchelliscool> Yes
#2133 [23:01] <Smanly> What to tell us what it is?
#2134 [23:01] <mitchelliscool> Mobile Intel(R) 45 Express Chipset Family
#2135 [23:02] <Smanly> see if you can use this site
#2136 [23:02] <Smanly> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng
#2137 [23:03] <mitchelliscool> Thanks
#2138 [23:03] <Smanly> This might work too
#2139 [23:03] <Smanly> http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#2140 [23:03] <whaaaa> the screen for minecraft is all black and it was working fine yesterday now it gets 95% done and freezes on me
#2141 [23:03] <Smanly> The updating?
#2142 [23:04] <whaaaa> yes i reseted it hoping to get it to work but it doesnt
#2143 [23:04] <Smanly> Someone else may be able to help you better
#2144 [23:04] <Smanly> But i would just delete the bin
#2145 [23:04] <whaaaa> ok
#2146 [23:04] <Smanly> Then try run the .exe again
#2147 [23:05] <Smanly> What
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#2149 [23:05] <Smanly> Wb
#2150 [23:05] <mitchelliscool> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng I Dont Know Where To Download It
#2151 [23:05] <Smanly> did you find your card?
#2152 [23:05] <whaaaa> back sorry type that again
#2153 [23:05] <Smanly> But i would just delete the bin
#2154 [23:05] <Smanly> Then try run the .exe again
#2155 [23:06] <Smanly> mitchelliscool: use this http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#2156 [23:06] <whaaaa> k
#2157 [23:06] <mitchelliscool> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20775&keyword=%22Mobile+Intel(R)+45+Express+Chipset+Family%22&lang=eng Is It This ?
#2158 [23:07] <Smanly> Not sure, I dont think it is
#2159 [23:07] <mitchelliscool> I Have To Have A New Java & I Cant Download It Bc Im On Guest & Not Admin
#2160 [23:07] <whaaaa> im at the link
#2161 [23:08] <Smanly> mitchelliscool: Cant help you with that
#2162 [23:08] <Smanly> whaaaa: what link?
#2163 [23:09] <whaaaa> sorry nvm
#2164 [23:09] <mitchelliscool> So How Do I Update It ?
#2165 [23:09] <Smanly> Java or video drivers?
#2166 [23:09] <mitchelliscool> Driver
#2167 [23:10] <Smanly> Did you run this? http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect
#2168 [23:10] <mitchelliscool> I Need J%ava
#2169 [23:10] <mitchelliscool> java
#2170 [23:11] <Smanly> You just said you cant install it
#2171 [23:11] <Smanly> You just said you cant install it
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#2173 [23:12] <mitchelliscool> Ik
#2174 [23:12] <Smanly> laptop or desktop?
#2175 [23:12] <mitchelliscool> Laptop
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#2177 [23:13] <Smanly> Mobile Intel(R) 45 Express Chipset Family?
#2178 [23:13] <mitchelliscool> Yes
#2179 [23:14] <Smanly> Are you sure its not Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipset Family?
#2180 [23:15] <Smanly> I dont see this one 45 Express Chipset Family
#2181 [23:16] <mitchelliscool> Noo
#2182 [23:17] <Smanly> If you cant install Java, You wont be able to install the drivers.
#2183 [23:18] <mitchelliscool> Fuck
#2184 [23:18] * AuBot kicked mitchelliscool from #minecrafthelp (Reason: itchelliscool :Please keep it civil.)
#2185 [23:19] <Smanly> lu
#2186 [23:19] <Smanly> l
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#2188 [23:25] <LunarDoom> any 1 know Theoxylo
#2189 [23:28] <Rikairchy> he's my cousin
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#2191 [23:35] <LunarDoom> really or are u trolling me :/
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#2193 [23:36] <Smanly> What did I miss?
#2194 [23:36] <JMAC> my game is crashing at start up...any sugestions?
#2195 [23:36] <JMAC> --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 --------
#2196 [23:36] <Smanly> Use pastebin.com
#2197 [23:37] <JMAC> Generated 7/25/12 10:33 PM
#2198 [23:37] <Smanly> What?
#2199 [23:37] <JMAC> M: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (mixed mode), Sun Microsystems Inc.
#2200 [23:37] <JMAC> I don't know...
#2201 [23:38] <JMAC> my minecraft is crashing when I log in
#2202 [23:38] <Smanly> JMAC Use pastebin.com
#2203 [23:38] <Smanly> Dont paste the log into chat
#2204 [23:39] <JMAC> ok
#2205 [23:39] <JMAC> i pasted it into pastebin.com
#2206 [23:40] <Smanly> .... You need to give us the link
#2207 [23:40] <JMAC> http://pastebin.com/fbVRWv3p#
#2208 [23:41] <JMAC> sry I'm a noob and my 10 year old is freaking with MC down
#2209 [23:42] <skyboy> what's changed recently?
#2210 [23:42] <Smanly> Looks like there is no OpenGL
#2211 [23:43] <JMAC> not sure what changed....he just tryed loging in tonight and it crashes
#2212 [23:43] <skyboy> have you been able to log in before?
#2213 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Try a force update through the launcher. Hit Options before logging in, then "Force update"
#2214 [23:43] <JMAC> yeah he was logged in this afternoon
#2215 [23:43] <JMAC> I tried the force update option
#2216 [23:44] <skyboy> GreyVulpine: i'm thinking it's the drivers
#2217 [23:44] <Smanly> http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Getting_Started ?
#2218 [23:44] <skyboy> have you installed or uninstalled anything recently, JMAC?
#2219 [23:44] <GreyVulpine> JMAC - Rebooted the system recently?
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#2221 [23:45] <GreyVulpine> I'm thinking it's drivers as well.
#2222 [23:45] <JMAC> maybe...this is a family computer that gets hit with a virus at least one a month...being used by the wife and kids
#2223 [23:46] <skyboy> ??> JMAC wim/dxdiag
#2224 [23:46] <skyboy> ??> JMAC win/dxdiag
#2225 [23:46] <VoxelHead> JMAC: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2226 [23:46] <VoxelHead> JMAC: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2227 [23:46] <Elystus> skyboy: Do you know any C++?
#2228 [23:46] <skyboy> Elystus: yes
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#2230 [23:46] <JMAC> heck no lol I k now how to log into the xbox....I'm supprised I made it in here
#2231 [23:47] <JMAC> OK sky and Vox I'm trying the dx thing now
#2232 [23:47] <Elystus> skyboy: How can I take a , out of an interger?
#2233 [23:47] <Elystus> cin >> memory
#2234 [23:47] <Elystus> somone puts in 2,000
#2235 [23:47] <skyboy> if (c == 0x2c) continue;
#2236 [23:47] <GreyVulpine> what data type is memory?
#2237 [23:47] <Elystus> .-. reall y
#2238 [23:47] <skyboy> if you're parsing it yourself, yes
#2239 [23:48] <Elystus> skyboy: Thanks :)
#2240 [23:49] <JMAC> http://pastebin.com/3Rw7jBe2 dxdiag info here
#2241 [23:50] <Rikairchy> not bad
#2242 [23:51] <skyboy> hm
#2243 [23:51] <GreyVulpine> I'd start with a reinstall of the video drivers
#2244 [23:51] <skyboy> i'm considering deleting lwjgl first, grey
#2245 [23:52] <skyboy> those drivers are pretty recent
#2246 [23:52] <GreyVulpine> Either or.
#2247 [23:52] <Rikairchy> what about a force update?
#2248 [23:53] <skyboy> i forget the factoid for that
#2249 [23:53] <skyboy> win/reinst ?
#2250 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#2251 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> ??< index
#2252 [23:53] <GreyVulpine> Don't think vox has that factoid.
#2253 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/q7Vg2Jk0
#2254 [23:54] <skyboy> ?? win/reinst
#2255 [23:54] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2256 [23:54] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2257 [23:54] <GreyVulpine> Old instructions, but it should still work
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#2259 [23:58] <JMAC> bummer....still did not work. Thanks for trying if you can think of anything else my email is truejmac@gmail.com
#2260 [23:58] <JMAC> maybe holding down this power button for awhi.........