#1 [00:01] <LunarDoom> 1 last question
#2 [00:01] <LunarDoom> why cant i install tmi mod
#3 [00:01] <LunarDoom> Q.Q
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#5 [00:02] <skyboy> someoen ping me when he gets back
#6 [00:02] <skyboy> if he gets back
#7 [00:02] <skyboy> if he gets back
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#9 [00:03] <LunarDoom> il.class is only conflict
#10 [00:03] <LunarDoom> what is il.class
#11 [00:03] <skyboy> ?? mods
#12 [00:03] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#13 [00:03] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#15 [00:06] <Wug> Elystus: you could read it to a string, then remove all of the commas
#16 [00:06] <Elystus> Wug: I could :/
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#18 [00:06] <Wug> then convert it to an int via a stringstream
#19 [00:07] <Wug> I'm not sure why there are no library functions to convery between the two without retardedness
#20 [00:07] <Elystus> I know .-.
#21 [00:10] <GreyVulpine> Wow we have a long chanserv flags list..
#22 [00:11] <skyboy> Elystus: http://pastebin.com/dEEvAzix
#23 [00:11] <Elystus> skyboyalready did it another way ;)
#24 [00:11] <skyboy> this is probably more direct/faster
#25 [00:12] <Elystus> I may add it in the future.
#26 [00:12] <skyboy> and supports other languages, that use space of periods as thousands separators
#27 [00:12] <skyboy> or*
#28 [00:12] <Elystus> spaces and periods are already omitted
#29 [00:13] <Elystus> I jsut needed to know how I would go around ommitting commas
#30 [00:13] * GreyVulpine prods Elystus
#30 [00:13] * Elystus yelps
#30 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Excuse me for one moment
#31 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> !k Elystus
#32 [00:13] * GreyBot kicked Elystus from #minecrafthelp (Reason: lystus :<Kicks:937>)
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#34 [00:13] <Elystus> \o/
#35 [00:13] <GreyVulpine> Ah, there we go
#36 [00:15] <skyboy> !paid !k skyboy
#37 [00:15] * GreyBot kicked skyboy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: kyboy :<Kicks:938>)
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#39 [00:15] <Wug> lol
#40 [00:15] <Elystus> lol
#41 [00:15] <skyboy> i suggest you fix that :P
#42 [00:15] <Wug> why does aubot have kick access
#43 [00:15] <GreyVulpine> Oh boy.
#44 [00:16] <Wug> GreyVulpine: so i herd you have a third shift job
#45 [00:16] <Wug> who is so foolish as to trade you money for services rendered
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#47 [00:17] * GreyVulpine pffts
#47 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> !paid !k moo
#48 [00:17] <clarjon1> hmmmm
#49 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. who to test..
#50 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> !paid !k Wug
#51 [00:17] <clarjon1> !paid !k aubot
#52 [00:17] <GreyVulpine> Good enough
#53 [00:17] <mib_toqlzy> hello, i need help with my server. ppl cant log on to it even tho i did everything i thought to get it to work.
#54 [00:18] <clarjon1> !paid !k clarjon1
#55 [00:18] <Wug> GreyBot: help
#56 [00:18] <clarjon1> yay :)
#57 [00:18] <clarjon1> mib_toqlzy: 1) Did you do port forwarding on your router?
#58 [00:18] <mib_toqlzy> yes
#59 [00:18] <clarjon1> mib_toqlzy: and 2) Did you put an ip into the server.properties file?
#60 [00:19] <mib_toqlzy> o.o never mind apparently it works now all of the sudden. :) thanks for your time.
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#62 [00:32] <papascrumptious> anyone there?
#63 [00:32] <Wug> yes
#64 [00:32] <papascrumptious> do you know how to start a server?
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#66 [00:33] <Wug> on a mac? you'll need the server .jar file
#67 [00:33] <papascrumptious> ive done that
#68 [00:33] <papascrumptious> ive watched all of the youtube videos
#69 [00:34] <Smanly> It tells you on minecraft.net
#70 [00:34] <papascrumptious> not even
#71 [00:34] <Smanly> Go back to the download page and read
#72 [00:35] <Wug> can you right click and open it with java?
#73 [00:35] <Smanly> Well
#74 [00:35] <Smanly> Its not the proper way to do it
#75 [00:35] <Smanly> For a mac?
#76 [00:35] <papascrumptious> is there anywhere where i can call someone and they can talk me through it?
#77 [00:35] <Wug> it does the same thing smq
#78 [00:35] <Wug> Smanly: *
#79 [00:35] <Wug> papascrumptious: that wont help any more than this will
#80 [00:36] <Wug> can you get to a terminal
#81 [00:36] <papascrumptious> i have
#82 [00:36] <Wug> its in applications/utilities
#83 [00:36] <papascrumptious> i have it open
#84 [00:36] <Wug> does "java -version" do anything when you run it
#85 [00:37] <papascrumptious> yea, it popped up a bunch of stuff
#86 [00:37] <Wug> ok, use cd to get to the folder the server .jar is in
#87 [00:37] <Wug> if its on your desktop, use "cd Desktop"
#88 [00:38] <papascrumptious> What?
#89 [00:38] <Wug> where is the server .jar? what folder
#90 [00:39] <papascrumptious> whats the name of the folder?
#91 [00:39] <Wug> yes
#92 [00:39] <Smanly> Cant you right click and "open terminal" in the folder?
#93 [00:39] <papascrumptious> untitled folder 6
#94 [00:39] <Wug> can you move it to your desktop
#95 [00:39] <Wug> maybe put it in a folder called "smp"
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#97 [00:40] <papascrumptious> move what?
#98 [00:40] <Wug> just the server .jar
#99 [00:40] <papascrumptious> just did
#100 [00:41] <papascrumptious> now what
#101 [00:41] <Wug> in the terminal use "cd ~/Desktop/smp"
#102 [00:42] <papascrumptious> it says no such file or directory
#103 [00:42] <Smanly> Try "ls"
#104 [00:43] <papascrumptious> then what
#105 [00:43] <Disori> You made a folder on the desktop named smp right?
#106 [00:43] <Wug> try $HOME/Desktop/smp instead of with a ~
#107 [00:43] <Disori> Macs...
#108 [00:43] <Smanly> Lol
#109 [00:43] <papascrumptious> i havent made that folder
#110 [00:43] <Smanly> Lunix
#111 [00:43] <DopeGhoti> Sigh
#112 [00:43] <Wug> papascrumptious: then make it and put the server in it
#113 [00:44] <Disori> okay, make a folder named smp then do cd ~/Desktop/smp
#114 [00:44] <Wug> you have to actually do things we tell you, its not going to happen on its own
#115 [00:44] <Smanly> ^
#116 [00:44] <DopeGhoti> saying "Did that" doesn't make it magically have happened.
#117 [00:45] <papascrumptious> sorry, im new
#118 [00:45] <Smanly> ...
#119 [00:45] <papascrumptious> i made the folder, now what
#120 [00:45] <Disori> do cd ~/Desktop/smp
#121 [00:45] <Wug> papascrumptious: did you move the server jar to it
#122 [00:45] <Disori> ^ that first
#123 [00:45] <papascrumptious> i just renamed the folder with everything in it
#124 [00:46] <Wug> good enough
#125 [00:46] <Wug> use cd $HOME/Desktop/smp
#126 [00:46] <papascrumptious> ok, now what
#127 [00:46] <Disori> Why can't he just open it by a simple double click?
#128 [00:46] <Wug> I dont know
#129 [00:46] <Smanly> I am sorry, But I mean, You really shouldnt be running a server if you can't follow what we are telling you.
#130 [00:46] <papascrumptious> i typed that in and it didnt do anything
#131 [00:47] <Wug> it did, it just doesnt look like it did
#132 [00:47] <papascrumptious> gotta start sometime
#133 [00:47] <Smanly> Well...
#134 [00:47] <Wug> try to run the program with the command on the website
#135 [00:47] <papascrumptious> who are yal by the way?
#136 [00:47] <Disori> do ls, then paste the result into http://pastebin.com/
#137 [00:47] <Wug> Disori: I think hes in the right place now
#138 [00:47] <Wug> judging by the fact that "cd did nothing"
#139 [00:47] <Smanly> Do macs run .sh files?
#140 [00:48] <Wug> Smanly: they do
#141 [00:48] <Disori> Is it vanilla server?
#142 [00:48] <Smanly> Then you need to make one of those, or at least you should
#143 [00:48] <Smanly> I think so
#144 [00:48] <Disori> papascrumptious, what are you doing now?
#145 [00:49] <Smanly> "Download Minecraft.zip (270 KB). Unpack and place Minecraft in your /Applications folder."
#146 [00:49] <papascrumptious> im confused
#147 [00:49] <Disori> what was the most recent thing you've done?
#148 [00:49] <Smanly> Did you do that by chance, papascrumptious?
#149 [00:50] <papascrumptious> download the application?
#150 [00:50] <Wug> no. you already have the server
#151 [00:50] <Smanly> Did you do what Minecraft.net told you to do?
#152 [00:50] <Wug> follow the instructions to launch the server.
#153 [00:51] <Disori> papascrumptious: Okay one, is the .jar inside of the smp folder?
#154 [00:51] <Disori> second, have you done the cd $HOME/Desktop/smp command?
#155 [00:51] <Smanly> I dont think you use .jar on a mac. At least no according to MC
#156 [00:52] <Smanly> Er wait...
#157 [00:52] <DopeGhoti> sure you do
#158 [00:52] <DopeGhoti> for the servers
#159 [00:52] <Smanly> Lol, I was looking at the client. Whoops
#160 [00:53] <papascrumptious> do yal have phones, can you just call me
#161 [00:53] <Smanly> Ok, this
#162 [00:53] <Smanly> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Mac_OS_X_Instructions
#163 [00:53] <Disori> papascrumptious, I'd rather not. Could you answer my questions I said earlier?
#164 [00:53] <Disori> Or that, just follow that.
#165 [00:54] <Smanly> And actually read it
#166 [00:55] <DopeGhoti> see also
#167 [00:55] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/serversetup
#168 [00:55] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#169 [00:55] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#170 [00:55] <papascrumptious> on terminal, it keeps saying Unable to access jarfile minecraft_server.jar
#171 [00:55] <Smanly> Oh dude
#172 [00:55] <Smanly> Srsly?
#173 [00:55] <Smanly> Read what we have said
#174 [00:55] <Wug> is the file called minecraft_server.jar
#175 [00:55] <Wug> it doesnt have a -?
#176 [00:55] <papascrumptious> my dad said i have to get off
#177 [00:56] <Wug> I think the one you get from the site has a -
#178 [00:56] <Wug> tell him to wait 2 minutes
#179 [00:56] <Wug> try with a dash instead of an underscore
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#181 [00:57] <Wug> in case youre retyping the whole command every time, you can get to previously used ones with the up and down arrow keys
#182 [01:01] <Disori> I think he's gone..
#183 [01:01] <Disori> I'm sorry
#184 [01:02] <Smanly> You guys do this everyday? How?
#185 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Elephant tranquilizers
#186 [01:02] <Disori> Eh, I pop in here from time to time
#187 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> We get daily doses. I'm up to a 2 liter of the stuff a day
#188 [01:03] <Smanly> Where can I get some?
#189 [01:03] <DopeGhoti> if you _really_ want to see technical incompetence, look into _corporate_ tech support
#190 [01:03] <Elystus> Smanly: I personally use Tiger tranquilizers
#191 [01:03] <DopeGhoti> www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport
#192 [01:03] <Smanly> lol
#193 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> We only dole out the good stuff upon voice status or better
#194 [01:03] <Elystus> \o/
#195 [01:03] <Smanly> Yeah, I've been there, DopeGhoti
#196 [01:04] <DopeGhoti> or, for the old-school, alt.tech-support.recovery
#197 [01:04] <Elystus> we should start an mcf thread >_>
#198 [01:04] <Elystus> Tales from #minecrafthelp
#199 [01:04] <Smanly> XD
#200 [01:05] <Elystus> The best ones are when they come in with a computer with 512mb ram and drivers from 2000
#201 [01:05] <Smanly> oh lol
#202 [01:05] <Elystus> then say that they used to be able to run it.
#203 [01:05] <Smanly> lolwut
#204 [01:05] <Elystus> yea >_> pretty much my reaction.
#205 [01:06] <Smanly> classic lag on my computer...
#206 [01:06] <Smanly> so... idk man
#207 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> I wish Elystus was joking.
#208 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> http://pastebin.com/juzvh05v
#209 [01:06] <DopeGhoti> has anyone else yet heard "but it runs fine on YouTube!"?
#210 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> This was the last one
#211 [01:07] <Smanly> hell yeah
#212 [01:07] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: What?
#213 [01:07] <DopeGhoti> Yeah.
#214 [01:07] <Elystus> .-.
#215 [01:07] <Smanly> That is one beefed up PC
#216 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> "My system runs Minecraft for others fine on YouTube, so it should be able to run for me just fine!"
#217 [01:08] <Smanly> lol
#218 [01:08] <Elystus> seems legit
#219 [01:08] <Smanly> I was running a show in my HS's theater and They told me to play a DVD they made
#220 [01:09] * Elystus watches videos of people playing minecraft at 600 fps
#220 [01:09] <Smanly> Its started lagging and crap
#221 [01:09] <Smanly> So this girl runs in the booth and says
#222 [01:09] <Smanly> You wanna guess
#223 [01:09] <Smanly> Anyone?
#224 [01:09] <Elystus> "kiss me!"
#225 [01:09] <Elystus> ?
#226 [01:09] <Smanly> "Just pause it and let it catch up!"
#227 [01:09] <Elystus> .-.
#228 [01:09] <DopeGhoti> sigh
#229 [01:10] <Smanly> yeah...
#230 [01:10] <Elystus> my ap history teacher put 2 cds into a dvd player...
#231 [01:10] <Smanly> XD
#232 [01:10] <Elystus> I had to pull it out :/
#233 [01:10] <Elystus> It took some screwdrivers
#234 [01:11] <Smanly> Im gonna ask if my computer can run Minecraft in #minecraft using that paste.
#235 [01:11] <Wug> not if I can help it you're not
#236 [01:12] <Smanly> Too late
#237 [01:12] * Elystus hands wug the ban bot
#237 [01:12] <Smanly> lol
#238 [01:12] <Elystus> hammer >_>
#239 [01:12] <Smanly> XD
#240 [01:12] <Wug> b%saw
#241 [01:12] <Wug> b&saw *
#242 [01:12] <Elystus> did you actually post it?
#243 [01:12] <Smanly> Why you do dis to me?
#244 [01:12] <Wug> I upgraded the hammer
#245 [01:13] <Smanly> Idk if I did, I was kicked
#246 [01:13] <Smanly> I did XD
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#248 [01:17] <Smanly> Here is my actual computer
#249 [01:17] <Smanly> http://pastebin.com/2K5e7TWM
#250 [01:17] <Smanly> It can hardly run MC
#251 [01:19] <Disori> How can that hardly run MC? I've done it on an old pentium 4 with 1gb of ram. How dare you. Also some shitty onboard intel family card
#252 [01:19] <Elystus> heres his problem
#253 [01:19] <Elystus> Dedicated Memory: 64 MB
#254 [01:19] <Smanly> Yap
#255 [01:19] <Elystus> Card name: Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
#256 [01:19] <Elystus> ^
#257 [01:19] <Smanly> :D
#258 [01:19] <Disori> Ouch
#259 [01:19] <Smanly> Like a boss
#260 [01:20] <Smanly> Oh, thats the same as that other guy that was in here.
#261 [01:20] <Elystus> Here is mine: http://pastebin.com/E1qMzPat
#262 [01:21] <Disori> Damn
#263 [01:21] <Elystus> I forgot to overclock it ;-;
#264 [01:21] <Elystus> the processor goes to 4.2ghz
#265 [01:21] <Smanly> Nice
#266 [01:21] <Elystus> I just got it. Havn't touched my laptop since.
#267 [01:23] <Disori> http://pastebin.com/c5McYhw3
#268 [01:23] <Disori> Mine, now I'm just waiting to buy a GTX 550 ti
#269 [01:23] <Elystus> Go fo the 560ti
#270 [01:23] <Elystus> for*
#271 [01:23] <Elystus> I have heard that it is worth the money.
#272 [01:24] <Disori> Only 4 dollars more..
#273 [01:24] <Smanly> Is it even possible to give my gpu more ram?
#274 [01:24] <Elystus> Heh, I almost went for that cpu. Didn't have enough money.
#275 [01:24] <Disori> http://www.hwcompare.com/9686/geforce-gtx-550-ti-vs-geforce-gtx-560-ti/
#276 [01:24] <Elystus> Yea, you will enjoy the new graphics card.
#277 [01:25] * Elystus jsut looked at the current one.
#277 [01:25] <Elystus> I hate this keyboard.
#278 [01:25] <Elystus> It registers the s key late a lot.
#279 [01:25] <Disori> Anyone able to give me some tips on power supplies? I went for a something I regret and I'm wondering if it's enough
#280 [01:25] <Smanly> Late?
#281 [01:25] <Elystus> Disori: GO for 700 watts
#282 [01:25] <Smanly> It came before u....?
#283 [01:25] <Elystus> Just to be safe.
#284 [01:26] <Disori> It's a 600 watt, but I've heard it's the amps that matter
#285 [01:26] <Elystus> Smanly: Now that you mention it, being late doesn't explain any of it. Oh well, I hate the s key on this keyboard.
#286 [01:26] <Smanly> XD
#287 [01:27] <Elystus> Disori: EH, you should be fine with the one you have.
#288 [01:27] <Disori> Elystus, I remember someone saying s is one of the the most commonly used letters
#289 [01:27] <Elystus> Lol, http://www.hwcompare.com/12203/geforce-gtx-550-ti-vs-radeon-hd-7870/
#290 [01:27] <Disori> -commonly-
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#292 [01:28] <Elystus> Damn... http://www.hwcompare.com/11286/geforce-gtx-550-ti-vs-radeon-hd-7970/
#293 [01:28] <skyboy> S is one of the most commonly used
#294 [01:28] <Disori> Elystus, thanks for the 560 ti tip, I would have gotten the 550 lol
#295 [01:28] <Disori> Shh, don't judge me
#296 [01:28] <Elystus> Disori: You're welcome ;)
#297 [01:28] <skyboy> in order for my list of most common keys: space, E, T, A, O, I, S, N, R, H
#298 [01:29] <Elystus> Disori: The last one was the best radeon vs the 550ti
#299 [01:29] <Smanly> I think it would be much different if you were a programmer or a server admin than if you were juat a writer.
#300 [01:30] <Disori> skyboy, I can't even press the register button lol
#301 [01:30] <Disori> skyboy: ^ Smanly lol
#302 [01:30] <skyboy> you may need to enable javascript
#303 [01:31] <skyboy> also, it probably isn't much different
#304 [01:31] <Disori> I'm doing it via program. I guess I'll just register online
#305 [01:31] <skyboy> the majority of what i type is common language terms
#306 [01:31] <skyboy> mostly, because the majority of my typing takes place in conversations with other people
#307 [01:32] <Disori> A writer uses words, a programmer uses words too
#308 [01:32] <skyboy> i'm certain, however, that the E key has a boost of a few thousand presses because i use "e" for event most of the time
#309 [01:32] <Disori> Except the number count versus a writer would be way higher
#310 [01:32] <Elystus> yes, but our words ar unintelligable to the public.
#311 [01:32] <Elystus> are*
#312 [01:32] <Disori> Elystus, correct
#313 [01:33] <Smanly> I would think my most used key is T
#314 [01:33] <Elystus> \o/ I worked all the kinks out! :D
#315 [01:33] <DopeGhoti> mine's probably backspace.
#316 [01:33] * Elystus closes down Visual studio before he breaks it.
#316 [01:33] <Disori> I'd say shift or e
#317 [01:33] <Disori> or l..
#318 [01:33] <Smanly> idk
#319 [01:34] <Smanly> I press t a lot
#320 [01:34] <Smanly> I use it instead of esc
#321 [01:34] <skyboy> backspace is my 18th most pressed key at 23,006
#322 [01:34] <Disori> I have a tendancy to use ls by habit with going into directories
#323 [01:34] <skyboy> enter ranks at 14 with 27,117
#324 [01:34] <Elystus> How are we finding this out?
#325 [01:34] <skyboy> i have whatpulse
#326 [01:35] <skyboy> my least used key is left shift, at 1
#327 [01:35] <DopeGhoti> how about Ctrl?
#328 [01:35] <Smanly> O.o
#329 [01:35] <skyboy> right shift has 27,372
#330 [01:35] <Smanly> You have only used your left shift, once?
#331 [01:35] <Disori> skyboy, seriously?
#332 [01:36] <skyboy> in the last 19.7 million key presses, smanly
#333 [01:36] <Elystus> Someone never plays minecraft then ;)
#334 [01:36] <Smanly> ^
#335 [01:36] <skyboy> not on this computer
#336 [01:36] <Smanly> Oh
#337 [01:36] <Smanly> hmm
#338 [01:36] <Smanly> Yeah, I normally use my right shift when typing
#339 [01:36] <skyboy> Q is my least used letter at 653
#340 [01:36] <skyboy> counting that usage
#341 [01:37] <skyboy> 7 is at 355, the least. numpad 7 is at 565, the least also
#342 [01:37] <Disori> I always caps my letters with right shift
#343 [01:38] <Disori> I always sprint with space
#344 [01:38] * Elystus capitalizes words using telepathy
#344 [01:38] <Disori> Crouch with c or ctrl
#345 [01:39] <Disori> skyboy, how long does it take for whatpulse to..pulse?
#346 [01:39] <skyboy> left ctrl is at 89, right ctrl is at 7,283
#347 [01:39] <skyboy> Disori: it depends on what you set it to
#348 [01:39] <skyboy> you can set a time limit, a key limit, or a click limit
#349 [01:39] <Disori> How do I set it?
#350 [01:39] <Disori> Oh, nevermind
#351 [01:40] <Disori> Stupid me, didn't bother looking
#352 [01:40] <skyboy> F5 is also at 1 use
#353 [01:41] <skyboy> F2: 3, F11: 8. the remaining function keys don't rank; so 0
#354 [01:42] <Disori> How about space?
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#356 [01:42] <BigBadLoser> Can anyone tell me the legal for minecraft?
#357 [01:43] <skyboy> top, nearly 140k
#358 [01:43] <skyboy> E has 77K
#359 [01:43] <Elystus> BigBadLoser: What do you mean by legal?
#360 [01:43] <Smanly|Away> the legal for?
#361 [01:43] <DopeGhoti> start here: http://www.minecraft.net/t
#362 [01:43] <DopeGhoti> er
#363 [01:43] <Disori> BigBadLoser, minecraft.net/copyright.jsp
#364 [01:44] <DopeGhoti> odd that that didn't copy, but go with Disori's link
#365 [01:44] <Disori> Wait, I'm stupid. Thet got rid of that a long time ago. No don't
#366 [01:44] <DopeGhoti> start here: http://www.minecraft.net/terms
#367 [01:45] <skyboy> http://i.imgur.com/a1zrO.png
#368 [01:46] <Disori> [] and {} aren't really used that much
#369 [01:46] <skyboy> i type 1 and 0 a lot, though
#370 [01:46] <skyboy> more thna any other numeric key
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#372 [01:47] <BigBadLoser> Didn't work for me.
#373 [01:47] <Disori> skyboy, binary boy
#374 [01:47] <BigBadLoser> I mean what tells me that i can or can't use the screenshots and videos blah blah blah
#375 [01:48] <Disori> That would be a great name for an extremely stupid superhero
#376 [01:48] <Smanly|Away> XD
#377 [01:48] <Disori> BigBadLoser, what would you like to know in specific?
#378 [01:48] <BigBadLoser> I mean what tells me that i can or can't use the screenshots and videos blah blah blah
#379 [01:48] <BigBadLoser> Oops
#380 [01:48] <Elystus> BigBadLoser: You can make videos of and screenshots of minecraft
#381 [01:48] <Smanly|Away> ^
#382 [01:48] <Smanly|Away> What are you worried about using them for?
#383 [01:48] <Elystus> See what you guys get: http://realgreatgames.com/other/100215/click-counter
#384 [01:48] <Disori> BigBadLoser, you can use them any time you want
#385 [01:49] <BigBadLoser> YouTube sometimes asks you for legal stuff
#386 [01:49] <Elystus> not for minecraft
#387 [01:49] <Elystus> as long as you do not claim minecraft as your game, you will be fine.
#388 [01:49] <Elystus> i.e. don't say you made it :
#389 [01:49] <Elystus> :/
#390 [01:50] <DopeGhoti> Or monetize it
#391 [01:50] <Elystus> ^
#392 [01:50] <DopeGhoti> ads notiwthstanding
#393 [01:50] <skyboy> 419
#394 [01:50] <Elystus> skyboy: I got 494 :P
#395 [01:50] <skyboy> oh, you want the fastest? :P
#396 [01:52] <skyboy> bah, common noob mistake. they don't remove all of the listeners, so the counter counts down twice as fast the second time
#397 [01:52] <Disori> skyboy, yup
#398 [01:53] <skyboy> 762
#399 [01:53] <Disori> damn
#400 [01:53] <Disori> I suck
#401 [01:53] <skyboy> not as good as a hardcore korean starcraft player
#402 [01:54] <skyboy> some quick math tells me that's 1 click every 39.3 milliseconds
#403 [01:54] <Elystus> I think this is the perfect time for a lame over 9000 joke
#404 [01:54] <skyboy> a single frame at 30 FPS is 33.3 milliseconds
#405 [01:54] <skyboy> starcraft players manage to click twice or mroe within that time frame
#406 [01:54] <skyboy> and accurately, while moving their mouse
#407 [01:55] <skyboy> it's insane.
#408 [01:55] <Elystus> Im going to head off to bed, night :)
#409 [02:02] <Disori> Well, I'm going to go blow some time playing DOTA 2
#410 [02:02] <Disori> Then sleep. Night
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#414 [02:19] <Guest91202> When i try to type in server commands on my multiplayer server nothing happens
#415 [02:19] <DopeGhoti> ?? smp/opyourself
#416 [02:19] <VoxelHead> smp/opyourself: If you cannot dig, place blocks, or generally do anything other than walk around near the spawn point, it's because you're not an op on the server.
#417 [02:19] <VoxelHead> smp/opyourself: Presuming that it's your server, you can either type 'op YOURNAME' on the server console, or add your name to the ops.txt file, and restart the server.
#418 [02:20] <Guest91202> kk
#419 [02:23] <skyboy> i guess restarting fixed that jmac guy's issue
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#422 [02:51] <mroma> Helllooo ?
#423 [02:52] <mroma> I have problems ..... Can anybody help me ?
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#429 [02:54] <honeydeww6999> hello i was woundering if my migrated account will be fixed in the up when it comes out
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#435 [03:51] <theploki> anyone else getting "Can't connect to minecraft.net"?
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#437 [03:56] <Bluesaxman> Excuse me, is minecraft.net down rightnow, becuase its not loading, and the login for the client is not responding ether.
#438 [03:56] <Andrio> No, I can ping it.
#439 [03:57] <Necrodoom> loads fine for me
#440 [03:57] <Wug> theploki: Bluesaxman try it again later
#441 [03:57] <Wug> you two are on the same isp
#442 [03:58] <Wug> its probably a local issue that will resolve itself shortly
#443 [03:58] <Bluesaxman> Ok I'll try again later.
#444 [03:58] <Bluesaxman> Thanks :)
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#446 [04:09] <theploki> bleh... thanks :)
#447 [04:10] <theploki> i thought it was for the 1.3 update
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#455 [04:31] <ultimatespec> why can't i connect to any minecraft servers and they are all portfoward (my friends is so is mine) and minecraft is saying its offliine
#456 [04:32] <Wug> minecraft being offline prevents servers from working
#457 [04:32] <Wug> it will resolve itself on its own later
#458 [04:32] <ultimatespec> but minecraft is online
#459 [04:32] <ultimatespec> it was doing this last night as well
#460 [04:34] <Wug> people have been experiencing issues within the last 15 minutes or so
#461 [04:34] <Wug> its an internet hiccup and will resolve itself shortly
#462 [04:34] <SinZ> !login
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#464 [04:35] <ultimatespec> like i can login on minecraft its just the servers that arn't on. cause i ran my server and minecraft said its offline... i had to connect to "localhost" so i can connect but my friend cant
#465 [04:36] <ultimatespec> !login
#466 [04:36] <ultimatespec> !login
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#474 [05:21] <zsdp> i had a question about minecraft
#475 [05:21] <Calinou_> yes?
#476 [05:22] <zsdp> dose minecraft ligaly alou you to make and hose a private server
#477 [05:22] <zsdp> hoste*'
#478 [05:22] <Calinou_> yes, of course, there are no restrictions. you can even allow griefing on your server, if you want.
#479 [05:22] <Helloman892> Oh, yes.
#480 [05:22] <zsdp> griefing>
#481 [05:22] <zsdp> ?
#482 [05:22] <Helloman892> ??> zsdp griefing
#483 [05:22] <Helloman892> Damn.
#484 [05:23] <Helloman892> Ignore that xD
#485 [05:23] <zsdp> XD
#486 [05:23] <zsdp> whats griefing
#487 [05:23] <Helloman892> Griefing is destroying a building that isn't yours.
#488 [05:23] <zsdp> awww
#489 [05:23] <Helloman892> Without asking*
#490 [05:23] <zsdp> thats kinda messed out
#491 [05:23] <zsdp> ip
#492 [05:23] <zsdp> up
#493 [05:23] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#494 [05:23] <zsdp> um
#495 [05:23] <Calinou_> don't use enter as punctuation on IRC
#496 [05:23] <zsdp> i think minecraft should be free but for just a question
#497 [05:24] <zsdp> can you make people pay to play on your private server?
#498 [05:24] <Helloman892> No.
#499 [05:24] <Helloman892> That is illegal.
#500 [05:24] <zsdp> k
#501 [05:24] <zsdp> will the server run on a single core server box?
#502 [05:24] <Helloman892> Probably.
#503 [05:24] <Helloman892> Depends what the exact specifications are.
#504 [05:24] <Calinou_> no
#505 [05:25] <zsdp> do you no the average connections you can have on a home server box?
#506 [05:25] <Calinou_> "pay-to-play" servers are perfectly legal, contrary to common belief
#507 [05:25] <Helloman892> Hmmm...
#508 [05:25] <zsdp> and its a single core amd 2 gig del
#509 [05:25] <zsdp> ;P
#510 [05:25] <Calinou_> it is not advisable if you want a good amount of players, of course ;)
#511 [05:25] <Helloman892> I stand corrected.
#512 [05:25] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#513 [05:25] <Helloman892> xsdp: That'll work fine.
#514 [05:25] <zsdp> yay
#515 [05:25] <Helloman892> www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_Server
#516 [05:25] <Helloman892> I believe that is correct.
#517 [05:25] <zsdp> o thank you
#518 [05:25] <Calinou_> zsdp, depends on your amount of RAM, your CPU, your bandwidth and whether you play Minecraft on the same machine at the same time
#519 [05:26] <Helloman892> No.
#520 [05:26] <zsdp> well i have comcast cable
#521 [05:26] <Helloman892> It is not that link, lol.
#522 [05:26] <zsdp> its prity fast
#523 [05:26] <Calinou_> a minecraft server uses 300MB base RAM + 100MB of RAM per player (yes, that's a lot), and 0.3 megabits/secodn upload/download bandwidth
#524 [05:26] <Calinou_> second*
#525 [05:26] <zsdp> it has 2 gigs of ram
#526 [05:26] <Calinou_> http://speedtest.net < check your ACTUAL speed here
#527 [05:27] <Helloman892> zsdp: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server is the correct link.
#528 [05:27] <zsdp> let me share the speed test
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#530 [05:28] <CosmicVoyager> Is there a place to see minecraft server status?
#531 [05:28] <zsdp> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2084822036.png
#532 [05:28] <zsdp> theres my speed test
#533 [05:28] <Helloman892> Unless you want a Bukkit server: wiki.bukkit.org/Setting_up_a_server. Unfortunately, we can't help you with any Bukkit issues or errors.
#534 [05:29] <Helloman892> zsdp: That should be fine.
#535 [05:29] <zsdp> well i was not asking for the server page even thow im very greatfull just questions
#536 [05:29] <Calinou_> CosmicVoyager, elaborate please?
#537 [05:29] <zsdp> :)
#538 [05:29] <Helloman892> Ok.
#539 [05:29] <CosmicVoyager> i mean the authentication srever
#540 [05:29] <Calinou_> zsdp, that's very fast, yeah, you should be fine for about 10 players
#541 [05:29] <Calinou_> as your upload speed is quite slow compared to your download speed
#542 [05:29] <Calinou_> (10 players + you)
#543 [05:29] <zsdp> only 10 people what dos eit take for like 100 people
#544 [05:29] <Helloman892> The server page will walk you through the requirements, 'tis all.
#545 [05:30] <zsdp> can i have a link
#546 [05:30] <Helloman892> GBit/s connection.
#547 [05:30] <zsdp> :)
#548 [05:30] <Calinou_> what Helloman892 said
#549 [05:30] <zsdp> so basicly the only way i can get more people is to buy a online server box
#550 [05:30] <Helloman892> Incredibly fast connection is required just for the standard 20 players.
#551 [05:30] <Helloman892> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.
#552 [05:31] <Helloman892> Has all the requirements required (?).
#553 [05:31] <zsdp> mk
#554 [05:31] <zsdp> umm is there any way for people on xbox to play with people on pc?
#555 [05:31] <Helloman892> No.
#556 [05:31] <zsdp> that be cool
#557 [05:32] <Helloman892> Minecraft: Xbox Edition is an entirely different animal to Minecraft.
#558 [05:32] <zsdp> what i wanted to do i go the hole 10 yards set up a website
#559 [05:32] <zsdp> and a private server
#560 [05:32] <zsdp> etc
#561 [05:32] <zsdp> but i ges its going to take alote more than my internet can alou
#562 [05:33] <zsdp> so im going to have to rent an online server box to make that happen?
#563 [05:33] <Helloman892> Mhm. You can do that. Keep in mind that you're going to have to set up some port-forwarding if you want to run off of a home box. And, most probably, yes.
#564 [05:33] <zsdp> o no everything about port forwardind thats prity easy talsk
#565 [05:33] <zsdp> i already have teamspeak
#566 [05:33] <zsdp> server
#567 [05:34] <Calinou> you can make private servers using white lists.
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#569 [05:34] <Calinou> the port to forward for minecraft servers is: 25565 in TCP
#570 [05:34] <martinw86> hi :)
#571 [05:34] <zsdp> whats a white list
#572 [05:34] <Helloman892> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2084828912.png. This is good for Virgin Media. Better than 53% of the country :>
#573 [05:34] <Helloman892> 58*
#574 [05:34] <Helloman892> ?? whitelist
#575 [05:34] <Helloman892> Damn.
#576 [05:35] <zsdp> ya
#577 [05:35] <zsdp> is that like the thing that alous
#578 [05:35] * Calinou enables flash and does a speedtest
#578 [05:35] <zsdp> ip to be allooud onto and of the server
#579 [05:35] <Helloman892> A whitelist is the opposite of a blacklist.
#580 [05:35] <zsdp> aww
#581 [05:35] <Helloman892> And it's username based.
#582 [05:35] <zsdp> i no what a blacklist is
#583 [05:35] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#584 [05:35] <Helloman892> A blacklist is: (your turn)
#585 [05:36] <zsdp> how would a whitelist help me thou
#586 [05:36] <zsdp> would it get me more people?
#587 [05:36] <Necrodoom> whitelist = private server
#588 [05:36] <martinw86> guys im trying out the minecraft classic but its not working keep getting a error message
#589 [05:36] <Helloman892> Indeed.
#590 [05:36] <Helloman892> Ok.
#591 [05:36] <Helloman892> What is the error message: www.pastebin.com
#592 [05:37] <Calinou> did this speedtest in this famous "lag moment" that often happens for me, see the results: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2084834035.png
#593 [05:37] <Helloman892> Put it on there, artinw86, and link us.
#594 [05:37] <Calinou> \o/
#595 [05:37] <Helloman892> Lol... xD
#596 [05:37] <Helloman892> Oh Jesus, that's bad
#597 [05:38] <zsdp> hollo man everytime i want to connect to some ones private server it ses faild to loging bad login
#598 [05:38] <zsdp> whats that mean
#599 [05:38] <Helloman892> You need to reopen Mincraft.
#600 [05:38] <zsdp> i did
#601 [05:38] <Helloman892> Wait:
#602 [05:38] <zsdp> keeps sayen it
#603 [05:38] <Helloman892> !paid zsdp
#604 [05:38] <Helloman892> What is your username?
#605 [05:39] <zsdp> i have not yet no but im buying one tomarrow
#606 [05:39] <Helloman892> Oh.
#607 [05:39] <zsdp> you say that like im a bad persone
#608 [05:39] <zsdp> lol
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#610 [05:39] <Necrodoom> zsdp: you cant connect without buying.
#611 [05:39] <zsdp> call 911
#612 [05:39] <zsdp> lol
#613 [05:39] <Helloman892> You can't go online if you haven't bought the game.
#614 [05:39] <zsdp> k that makes sence
#615 [05:39] <ultimatespec> minecraft servers are still offline :(
#616 [05:39] <zsdp> well im buying one anyway
#617 [05:39] <Helloman892> No. No they aren't.
#618 [05:40] <zsdp> tomarrow my friends getting me one of thoes gift codes thingies
#619 [05:40] <Calinou> ultimatespec, no, YOUR minecraft server (the one you try to connect to) is offline
#620 [05:40] <Calinou> !login
#621 [05:40] <ultimatespec> you sure i try connecting to my server and i cannot connect
#622 [05:40] <Calinou> to connect to your own server, use 127.0.0.1 as your "IP"
#623 [05:40] <Helloman892> Exactly.
#624 [05:40] <ultimatespec> i even tried joining my friend he can connect to it and i cannot connect to mine
#625 [05:41] <martinw86> this is what i get org.lwjgl Exception: pixel format was not accelerated
#626 [05:41] <ultimatespec> sorry i cannot connect to his and he connect to mine
#627 [05:41] <Helloman892> ultimatespec: The Minecraft servers have nothing to do with your private server.
#628 [05:41] <zsdp> cant wait to own minecraft thow single player is very fun
#629 [05:41] <Calinou> martinw86, update your video card drivers. what is the brand of your graphics card?
#630 [05:41] <ultimatespec> im talking about the private servers
#631 [05:41] <Calinou> you need a graphics card which supports opengl 1.2 at least, too
#632 [05:41] <martinw86> a g force 7 series
#633 [05:41] <Helloman892> As I said: Mojang's servers have nothing to do with private servers.
#634 [05:42] <zsdp> !paid hollowman892
#635 [05:42] <martinw86> i play games like WoW and other new games without a problem
#636 [05:42] <Helloman892> Fail.
#637 [05:42] <zsdp> :3
#638 [05:42] <Calinou> martinw86, that's a pretty old graphics card... it will probably not run minecraft playably, too
#639 [05:42] <Helloman892> !paid Helloman892
#640 [05:42] <zsdp> haha thats prity funny
#641 [05:42] <Helloman892> Thanks very much.
#642 [05:42] <Calinou> WoW isn't a new game.
#643 [05:42] <martinw86> true
#644 [05:42] <Calinou> minecraft is resource-intensive contrary to common belief
#645 [05:42] <ultimatespec> yes i know that... it just multiplayer is fucking up... he can connect to his server but i can not , he and nor can i connect to my server and our servers are port forward the servers
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#648 [05:43] <Calinou> ultimatespec, double-check the port forwarding
#649 [05:43] <martinw86> i play mw2 perfet aswel :D
#650 [05:43] <Helloman892> What the hell.
#651 [05:43] <martinw86> that ones new enough :D
#652 [05:43] <ultimatespec> it is fully port forward
#653 [05:43] <Helloman892> Oh, right.Anyways.
#654 [05:43] <Calinou> martinw86, well, then try updating your video card drivers
#655 [05:43] <Calinou> ?? gpu/nvidia
#656 [05:43] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#657 [05:43] <zsdp> !paid martinw86
#658 [05:43] <Calinou> martinw86, read what VoxelHead says
#659 [05:43] <ultimatespec> i had to set my ports to 25564 and 25566 as i have an Thomson TG782T
#660 [05:43] <zsdp> :3
#661 [05:43] <Calinou> oh and also: the classic version does not work with java 7
#662 [05:43] <Calinou> ultimatespec, 25565 in TCP is the ONLY port you should forward
#663 [05:44] <Helloman892> zsdp: Don't assume that ones Minecraft username is the same as their IRC nickname.
#664 [05:44] <ultimatespec> i cant port 25565...... otherwise my minecraft server wpnt work
#665 [05:44] <Calinou> ultimatespec, why?
#666 [05:44] <zsdp> i dont i just like to mess around
#667 [05:44] <ultimatespec> because i got and Thomson TG782T
#668 [05:44] <zsdp> its kinda funny
#669 [05:44] <Calinou> if you get "failed to bind to port", kill any java process you have
#670 [05:44] <zsdp> dont you think
#671 [05:45] <Calinou> very old graphics cards, like yours, tend to not like OpenGL usually, martinw86... you could try
#672 [05:45] <ultimatespec> i dont get the "failed to bind port" with the 25564 and 25566
#673 [05:45] <Calinou> ultimatespec, as I said: KILL any java process you have using task manager.
#674 [05:45] <Helloman892> ultimatespec: Try Googling "Thomson TG782T Minecraft server issue".
#675 [05:45] <martinw86> im dling now :)
#676 [05:46] <martinw86> opengl isnt that new either btw :O
#677 [05:46] <ultimatespec> cali i have done they before and i still go it that message even when i close all programs thats used java
#678 [05:46] <Helloman892> It is, at least the Minecraft compatible versions.
#679 [05:47] <Helloman892> ultimatespec: KILL them. Task Manager > Processes tab > then kill all 'java' related processes.
#680 [05:47] <ultimatespec> i have also done that before
#681 [05:47] <ultimatespec> it worked fine yesterday night until 10:30pm
#682 [05:47] <Calinou> ultimatespec, try restarting your computer, if it still doesn't work
#683 [05:47] <Calinou> or, some other computer in your house is running a service on port 25565
#684 [05:47] <Helloman892> ultimatespec: Try Googling "Thomson TG782T Minecraft server issue", then. After ^
#685 [05:48] <Helloman892> ?? classic
#686 [05:48] <VoxelHead> classic: Minecraft Classic is a severly outdated, archaic, unsupported version of Minecraft. It can be played for free here: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#687 [05:48] <VoxelHead> classic: Keep in mind though, that neither we nor Mojang offer support for Minecraft Classic.
#688 [05:48] <Helloman892> Remember that.
#689 [05:48] <Helloman892> ?? help
#690 [05:48] <VoxelHead> help: To use this service, there are several commands. ?? will answer a FAQ in-channel. ??< will privately send you the answer to a FAQ. ??> will answer a FAQ in channel with attention to the person you specify. ??>> will do the same, only privately
#691 [05:48] <VoxelHead> help: For a list of FAQs I can answer (or more accurately, a link to one), check the keyword 'index' with '??< index'
#692 [05:48] <Helloman892> Ok, that helped.
#693 [05:49] <Helloman892> May I ask what the command to add something to the FAQ is, or can't I do it?
#694 [05:50] <Helloman892> ??< voxelhead
#695 [05:50] <ultimatespec> helloman892 i cant portforward 25565
#696 [05:50] <Helloman892> Why is that?
#697 [05:50] <ultimatespec> i have to forward 25564 - 25566
#698 [05:50] <ultimatespec> cause i got a http://www.minecraftforum.net/irc/web-client/
#699 [05:50] <martinw86> just read on my box my card does opengl2.0
#700 [05:50] <ultimatespec> oops
#701 [05:50] <martinw86> lol
#702 [05:51] <ultimatespec> Thomson TG782T
#703 [05:52] <martinw86> wewt :D
#704 [05:52] <martinw86> the driver update worked :)
#705 [05:52] <Helloman892> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/TG782T/Minecraft_Server.htm, ultimatespec.
#706 [05:53] <ultimatespec> i have ready done that one
#707 [05:53] <Helloman892> Remember: 25565-25565 range.
#708 [05:53] <ultimatespec> and that doesn't work for me how many times do i need to say that
#709 [05:53] <Helloman892> You haven't.
#710 [05:54] <Calinou> Helloman892, why a range?
#711 [05:54] <Helloman892> Look, we can't help you with router issues.
#712 [05:54] <Helloman892> Read the page, Calinou.
#713 [05:55] <ultimatespec> OMFG i have already tried 25565 - 25565 thats doesnt fucking work my me
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#716 [05:56] <martinw86> hmm it working now but keeps opening menu whenver i try to press a mouse button lol
#717 [05:56] <Helloman892> ??> ultimatespec only/you
#718 [05:56] <VoxelHead> ultimatespec: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#719 [05:56] <VoxelHead> ultimatespec: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#720 [05:56] <martinw86> any ideas on that problem ?
#721 [05:57] <Helloman892> No.
#722 [05:57] <Helloman892> Try going to the settings. Remember:
#723 [05:57] <Helloman892> ??> martinw86 classic
#724 [05:57] <VoxelHead> martinw86: (classic) Minecraft Classic is a severly outdated, archaic, unsupported version of Minecraft. It can be played for free here: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#725 [05:57] <VoxelHead> martinw86: (classic) Keep in mind though, that neither we nor Mojang offer support for Minecraft Classic.
#726 [05:58] <ultimatespec> how many times do i need to say that 25565 wont work
#727 [05:58] <ultimatespec> for me
#728 [05:59] <Helloman892> ultimatespec: I have already said that we can't help you here.
#729 [05:59] <ultimatespec> then why keep suggestion to use 25565
#730 [05:59] <Helloman892> Because that is the port that minecraft_server.exe uses.
#731 [06:01] <Helloman892> Calinou: This is what happened when I tried a Canadian server :D http://www.speedtest.net/result/2084863929.png
#732 [06:02] <ultimatespec> hello apperently mine does not
#733 [06:03] <Helloman892> Server directory > server.properties > copy/paste what is under 'server port' or similar
#734 [06:04] <ultimatespec> ?
#735 [06:04] <Helloman892> ...
#736 [06:04] <Helloman892> Please.
#737 [06:04] <Helloman892> Before I get annoyed.
#738 [06:04] <ultimatespec> now it works
#739 [06:04] <Helloman892> ......
#740 [06:04] <Helloman892> Goddamn it. What'd you do?
#741 [06:04] <ultimatespec> i used the external ip all the time
#742 [06:05] <ultimatespec> the 25565 it turns out
#743 [06:05] <ultimatespec> minecraft put "121.217.140.239"
#744 [06:05] <ultimatespec> not 121.216.140.239
#745 [06:05] <Helloman892> Yes, you need a static IP for a portforward.
#746 [06:05] <ultimatespec> iknow
#747 [06:05] <Helloman892> And you have one?
#748 [06:05] <ultimatespec> but minecraft was an idiot and changed it
#749 [06:06] <ultimatespec> yeah
#750 [06:06] <ultimatespec> 121.216.140.239
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#752 [06:06] <Helloman892> Ok.
#753 [06:06] <ultimatespec> is for ppl to connect to my server
#754 [06:06] <Helloman892> Alright. I'll have a look.
#755 [06:06] <Helloman892> ...Maybe.
#756 [06:07] <ultimatespec> its not up.....
#757 [06:07] <Helloman892> I didn't say right now, did I?
#758 [06:07] <ultimatespec> to me you did XD
#759 [06:08] <Helloman892> I said 'I'll have a look', not when I would.
#760 [06:08] <GreyVulpine> It's highly recommended that you do not join random servers
#761 [06:09] <GreyVulpine> To prevent your session from being stolen.
#762 [06:10] <Helloman892> GreyVulpine: I don't need to worry about that.
#763 [06:10] <Helloman892> I don't admin any servers, unfortunately.
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#765 [06:18] <Helloman892> How can we help, Grimlock257?
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#775 [07:49] <Jojo> i downloaded to many mods and i force update but it crashes when i upload only one
#776 [07:49] <Jojo> what do i do to use mods
#777 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, we don't give mod support here
#778 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#779 [07:50] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#780 [07:50] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#782 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> Having said that though, I suggest that you check if your meta-inf folder has been removed
#783 [07:51] <Jojo> i use mod installers not transfers
#784 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, we don't help with that here.
#785 [07:53] <Andrio> Must be a sucky installer if it doesn't delete META-INF.
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#787 [07:55] <DiskDaemon> #mcp-modding seems to be the channel for discussing mods
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#790 [08:09] <mr_sticky> I need help
#791 [08:10] <mr_sticky> anyone
#792 [08:11] <Necrodoom> ask it out
#793 [08:11] <mr_sticky> I cant seem to play online because of "Internal Client Error"
#794 [08:11] <Rikairchy> try a force update
#795 [08:11] <mr_sticky> ok I'll try
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#797 [08:15] <mr_sticky> Done updating
#798 [08:15] <mr_sticky> but still same problem
#799 [08:15] <mr_sticky> I changed my password recently, does that change anything XD
#800 [08:15] <Rikairchy> no
#801 [08:16] <Rikairchy> not if you're able to connect through the launcher
#802 [08:17] <mr_sticky> W8 Things are looking up :D
#803 [08:18] <mr_sticky> I got in XD thanks alot guys
#804 [08:18] <Morrolan> http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ch/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html :)
#805 [08:20] <mr_sticky> w8 I'm sorry. I was able to play, but since I had the urge to test, I clossed the launcher. now it doesnt work
#806 [08:21] <mr_sticky> Do you know why?
#807 [08:22] <mr_sticky> Yep same problem....
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#810 [08:22] <mr_sticky> Hello?
#811 [08:23] <Morrolan> You restarted the client, and now you get that error again?
#812 [08:23] <mr_sticky> yes
#813 [08:23] <Morrolan> That is... odd. Does it happen with any server, or just with a specific one?
#814 [08:23] <mr_sticky> every server
#815 [08:24] <Morrolan> Could you try to conenct to minecraft.lethal-zone.eu , just to make sure it's not an issue with those servers you've tried?
#816 [08:24] <mr_sticky> what do you mean
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#818 [08:25] <mr_sticky> Nope doesn't wrok
#819 [08:26] <Morrolan> Hmm. Are you using the normal launcher from minecraft.net/download ?
#820 [08:26] <mr_sticky> yes, I was have a the problem, so I tried downloading a new launcher
#821 [08:26] <mr_sticky> but no luck :(
#822 [08:27] <Morrolan> Odd issue. Are your system's time and date correct?
#823 [08:27] <mr_sticky> I think so
#824 [08:28] <mr_sticky> What happens is...I click a server right? and It says "Connecting to Server", then Logging in, then it hangs for a bit, then boom "ERROR"
#825 [08:31] <mr_sticky> Should I try deleting the .minecraft folder
#826 [08:32] <Morrolan> Theoretically the force update should already have cleared out the files which might have been modified.
#827 [08:32] <Morrolan> If you want you could try to delete .minecraft/bin and .minecraft/resources though
#828 [08:32] <Morrolan> Don't touch .minecraft/saves unless you want to loose your worlds though.
#829 [08:32] <mr_sticky> ok
#830 [08:32] <Morrolan> lose*
#831 [08:33] <Morrolan> If this doesn't help then we could try to launch Minecraft through the console, so we get a detailed error log to work with.
#832 [08:34] <mr_sticky> ok
#833 [08:34] <mr_sticky> be back in a few to update minecraft
#834 [08:40] <mr_sticky> Dude it still doesn't work XD
#835 [08:40] <mr_sticky> How do I open using console
#836 [08:41] <Morrolan> Are you on Windows?
#837 [08:41] <mr_sticky> yes
#838 [08:41] <Morrolan> Grab the .jar launcher: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?234715907679389 then grab this file: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15421087/Minecraft/%23Minecrafthelp/run_minecraft.bat and save them both in the same folder.
#839 [08:41] <Morrolan> Doubleclick the .bat file.
#840 [08:42] <Morrolan> Then a black console window will pop up. Connect to a server, then an error will show up in the console.
#841 [08:42] <Morrolan> Right click the console -> Select all -> Hit enter. Then go to www.pastebin.com and paste (ctrl-v) the error log in there, hit submit and provide us with the link.
#842 [08:42] <mr_sticky> ok
#843 [08:43] <Morrolan> Hmm, pastebin.com is rather slow at the moment, so maybe use www.pastie.org
#844 [08:45] <mr_sticky> ok then
#845 [08:46] <mr_sticky> http://pastie.org/4336267
#846 [08:46] <mr_sticky> there
#847 [08:46] <Morrolan> Okay. Press win+r and type in "cmd.exe" (no quotes), hit enter. This should bring up a new console window.
#848 [08:47] <Morrolan> win is the windows button on the lower left, with the flag on it.
#849 [08:48] <mr_sticky> ok its open
#850 [08:48] * Andrio points at java.net.UnknownHostException: session.minecraft.net
#850 [08:48] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Now type "nslookup session.minecraft.net" in there.
#851 [08:48] <Morrolan> Andrio - Hmm?
#852 [08:49] <mr_sticky> ok done
#853 [08:49] <Morrolan> When you hit enter, what does it say'
#854 [08:49] <Morrolan> ?*
#855 [08:49] <mr_sticky> server: Unknown
#856 [08:50] <mr_sticky> Address: 192.186.1.1
#857 [08:50] <mr_sticky> DNS request timed out
#858 [08:51] <mr_sticky> timeout was 2 seconds
#859 [08:51] <mr_sticky> (last 2 goes on 4 times)
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#861 [08:51] <Morrolan> Okay. If you type in "nslookup session.minecraft.net 8.8.8.8", what does show up?
#862 [08:51] <antoniss95> Hello, i have a problem with Minecraft and i have tried a lot of different ways to fix them but the problem still remain.Every time I try to login from client, it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net" even though I have not put anything in the fieldsor different names. Futhermore i can connect from browser normally.Thank for your time and i hope to find a solution soon.
#863 [08:52] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - When you enter your username and password and hit "Login" it gives you that error?
#864 [08:53] <antoniss95> I think it can't check the fields
#865 [08:53] <mr_sticky> Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
#866 [08:53] <mr_sticky> Address: 8.8.8.8
#867 [08:54] <antoniss95> Also, I have tried with firewall disabled and as i wrote on the previous message, the client does not check the fields even if it is empty
#868 [08:54] <mr_sticky> Non-authoritative answer:
#869 [08:54] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - So, even when you enter password and username you get that error?
#870 [08:55] <mr_sticky> Name: session-152758893.us-east-1.elb.amazonawa.com
#871 [08:55] <antoniss95> Yes
#872 [08:55] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Okay, that is fine. :)
#873 [08:55] <mr_sticky> Adress: 184.73.223.40
#874 [08:55] <mr_sticky> ok XD
#875 [08:56] <antoniss95> But even if are empty and hit login i get the same message
#876 [08:56] <Necrodoom> since 1.3 is adding a new wooden slab ID, will the old one become uncraftable?
#877 [08:57] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Ok. Seems there is some issue with your DNS server. We can try to use a different one. Open the Control Panel (found in the start menu) and look for "Network and Internet"
#878 [08:57] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - What version of Java are you using?
#879 [08:57] <antoniss95> Final
#880 [08:57] <antoniss95> But i have tried with others and i got the same message
#881 [08:57] <Morrolan> Final is no version number. Use http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp to check what one you've got.
#882 [08:58] <mr_sticky> then?
#883 [08:58] <antoniss95> "Detecting Java on your computer"
#884 [08:58] <antoniss95> Wait a moment
#885 [08:58] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Click on there, then select "Network and Sharing Center", then choose "Change adapter settings" on the left.
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#887 [08:59] <antoniss95> "You have the recommended Java installed (Version 7 Update 5)."
#888 [08:59] <mr_sticky> ok?
#889 [08:59] <antoniss95> yes
#890 [08:59] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - Chances are it's Java 7 which is causing the issue. Before we continue further along that line though, there could be some other culprit. Did you ever pirate the game? (Nothing to worry about, but would explain it)
#891 [09:00] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Now you should see something like "Local Area Connection". Right click that one, select "Properties"
#892 [09:00] <antoniss95> No, i have bought it
#893 [09:00] <mr_sticky> ok
#894 [09:00] <antoniss95> Ok
#895 [09:01] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Now look for "Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) (you might have to scroll down a bit), select it and choose "Properties"
#896 [09:02] <antoniss95> @Morrolan Oo, i have download a version that i found from net because i can't download minecraft from minecraft.net because the problem that i have
#897 [09:03] <Morrolan> Ah, in this case, do the following:
#898 [09:03] <Morrolan> ?? win/hosts
#899 [09:03] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#900 [09:03] <VoxelHead> win/hosts: Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#901 [09:03] <Morrolan> Upload the file VoxelHead told you to fetch on www.pastie.org or similar.
#902 [09:03] <antoniss95> Ok, wait a moment
#903 [09:03] <antoniss95> Ok, wait a moment
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#905 [09:04] <antoniss95> <script src='http://pastie.org/4336340.js'></script>
#906 [09:04] <Morrolan> Okay, that one isn't the issue then.
#907 [09:04] <mr_sticky> When I opened the prop. It just hanged XD
#908 [09:05] <antoniss95> http://pastie.org/pastes/4336340/text
#909 [09:05] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Hmm, odd. Let's see if it loads when you let it be for a minute or two. :S
#910 [09:05] <mr_sticky> ok
#911 [09:05] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - In this case, grab the .jar launcher from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?234715907679389 and the .bat file from https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15421087/Minecraft/%23Minecrafthelp/run_ipv4.bat and save both in the same folder.
#912 [09:05] <antoniss95> I have the problem two months now
#913 [09:06] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - Once you have these two files, doubleclick the .bat file and try to log in again.
#914 [09:06] <antoniss95> Ok, i will try it
#915 [09:06] <antoniss95> then ?
#916 [09:07] <Morrolan> It should open Minecraft, now try to log in. Any change?
#917 [09:07] <Morrolan> (Log in with username and password, ofcourse)
#918 [09:07] <mr_sticky> What's network 2?
#919 [09:07] <antoniss95> Sorry, the two files must be in the folder of minecraft ?
#920 [09:07] <Morrolan> No, just save them somewhere on your desktop.
#921 [09:08] <Morrolan> They just have to be in the same folder, doesn't matter which one. (Don't put them in the .minecraft folder though)
#922 [09:08] <antoniss95> The same problem
#923 [09:08] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - If you open a console (win+r -> cmd.exe -> enter) and type in "nslookup minecraft.net" (no quotes), what does show up?
#924 [09:09] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Where did you see this "network 2"?
#925 [09:09] <mr_sticky> Morrolan there is such thing us Wireless network 2... what is that XD
#926 [09:10] <antoniss95> Server: dsldevice.lan Address: 192.168.1.254 Non-authoritative answer Name: minecraft.net Address: 50.16.203.217
#927 [09:10] <mr_sticky> same place as the other networks
#928 [09:10] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Ah. Are you connected via WLAN at the moment?
#929 [09:10] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - Seems fine too.
#930 [09:11] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - Does your Windows username contain a "!" or similar?
#931 [09:11] <mr_sticky> I think network two is hamachi XD
#932 [09:11] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - That might be, yea.
#933 [09:11] <antoniss95> I have tried all ways (i found) to fix them but nothing
#934 [09:11] <antoniss95> No
#935 [09:11] <mr_sticky> so can that be causing the problem
#936 [09:11] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Hamachi could be causing such issues too, yes.
#937 [09:12] <Morrolan> Select that hamachi network -> right click -> disable
#938 [09:12] <mr_sticky> if I disable... can I enable it later?
#939 [09:12] <Morrolan> Yep.
#940 [09:12] <antoniss95> Also i contact mojang (email) and told to come here
#941 [09:12] <Morrolan> You can just right-click -> enable it again, mr_sticky.
#942 [09:13] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - They are currently working on emails from two months ago, so I guess this didn't hurt. ^^
#943 [09:13] <mr_sticky> ok thanks I'mma try servers now
#944 [09:13] <mr_sticky> i'll come back if the problem is still there
#945 [09:14] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - With a bit of luck it fixes it, but don't count on it.
#946 [09:14] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Oh, if you are connected via WLAn currently, try to conect with a cable if possible.
#947 [09:14] <antoniss95> Sorry, my bad. I sent the email two days before
#948 [09:14] <antoniss95> But i have the problem 2 mothns now
#949 [09:14] <antoniss95> months*
#950 [09:14] <mr_sticky> I'm on cable
#951 [09:14] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - I am running out of ideas here. You could come back in a few hours when the US-based people are here, maybe one of them will have an idea.
#952 [09:15] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Okay. :)
#953 [09:15] <antoniss95> Oh, ok, i hope to find a solution soon
#954 [09:15] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - When you do come back, mention my nickname, then I'll be able to tell them what we've tried so far.
#955 [09:15] <antoniss95> Ok man, thank you!
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#957 [09:18] <mr_sticky> nope doesn't work
#958 [09:18] <mr_sticky> Morrolan where do you live?
#959 [09:18] <Morrolan> Switzerland.
#960 [09:19] <mr_sticky> oh ok :D
#961 [09:19] <Morrolan> Did the properties window still not load?
#962 [09:19] <mr_sticky> nope XD
#963 [09:19] <Morrolan> Because if we could access that one it'd be one more step to fix it, most likely. <.<
#964 [09:19] <mr_sticky> The DNS thing
#965 [09:20] <Morrolan> Yea. A DNS server translates human-readable addresses like www.google.com to IPs, which computers use to identify each other.
#966 [09:20] <mr_sticky> oh ok
#967 [09:20] <Morrolan> Now your DNS server refuses to "translate" session.minecraft.net into an address your computer can use, which makes it fail while connecting.
#968 [09:20] <clarjon1> mr_sticky: Think of DNS like a phone book for the Internet :)
#969 [09:20] <mr_sticky> ok?
#970 [09:21] <mr_sticky> I just tried my sisters comp using my account, same problem
#971 [09:21] <clarjon1> mr_sticky: Same ISP, same issue.
#972 [09:21] <clarjon1> mr_sticky: Your computer is asking your ISP DNS servers "Hey, what is session.minecraft.net's address" and your ISP is saying, "We don't know who that is, sorry"
#973 [09:21] <DiskDaemon> It normally takes from 12 to 72 hours for the DNS database to update itself. In the meantime, you can use one of the other DNS servers which is known to be more correctly up to date
#974 [09:22] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - There wasn't any change recently, so I doubt this'll fix itself.
#975 [09:22] <Morrolan> For some reason his DNS server of choice just has no entry of it.
#976 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> Oh dear, then someone really need to give someone at the ISP a smack upside the head
#977 [09:23] <mr_sticky> The problem has been here for a week
#978 [09:23] <Morrolan> Theoretically it could also be his router doing something funny, since queries go through that one.
#979 [09:23] <Morrolan> (In his case)
#980 [09:23] <clarjon1> mr_sticky: Try following this guide, see if it helps: http://techie-buzz.com/how-to/google-public-dns-on-win7-and-winxp.html
#981 [09:23] <Morrolan> clarjon1 - We've got that far. ;)
#982 [09:23] <clarjon1> Morrolan: aha.
#983 [09:23] <Morrolan> The problem is that the adapter settings don't load.
#984 [09:23] <DiskDaemon> mr_sticky: PLDT is it, in the philippines?
#985 [09:24] <Morrolan> We're literally one menu before we can access that setting.
#986 [09:24] <mr_sticky> yes
#987 [09:24] <mr_sticky> what if I access the menu from my sisters comp
#988 [09:24] <Morrolan> Had someoen with the exact same issue not too long ago, not too sure what might be causing it.
#989 [09:24] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - You could try whether it loads there, yea.
#990 [09:24] <Morrolan> It would only fix it for your sister's computer then, but that's better than nothing.
#991 [09:24] <mr_sticky> will I still be able to work?
#992 [09:24] <DiskDaemon> Yes, there have been a lot of reports of that trouble from that country.
#993 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> 160 million results for "session.minecraft.net" philippines
#994 [09:25] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - Oh, you think it's one of the local ISPs doing silly things?
#995 [09:25] <DiskDaemon> Definately someone needs to be smacked upside the head
#996 [09:25] <mr_sticky> wow Philippines sucks XD
#997 [09:25] <mr_sticky> fuuu XD
#998 [09:26] <mr_sticky> IT LOADED :D
#999 [09:26] <mr_sticky> (in my comp) what now?
#1000 [09:26] <Morrolan> Now, select "Use the following DNS server addresses" and enter "8.8.8.8" as "Preferred DNS server"
#1001 [09:27] <Morrolan> Then hit "OK"
#1002 [09:27] <DiskDaemon> When you do a similar search for New Zealand, there are only 71 results on google. Compare that to 160 million pages for the Philippines, and I think that confirms some kind of ongoing issue.
#1003 [09:27] <Morrolan> mr_sticky - Basically what the last image on here shows: http://techie-buzz.com/how-to/google-public-dns-on-win7-and-winxp.html
#1004 [09:27] <mr_sticky> I have 2 internet protocols
#1005 [09:28] <mr_sticky> Ip 4 and 6
#1006 [09:28] <mr_sticky> which do I pick
#1007 [09:28] <Morrolan> the Ip4 one is the one you want.
#1008 [09:28] <Morrolan> Oh, you're still in that menu? In this case select the IPv4 one, and hit the "properties" button, then enter the proceed.
#1009 [09:29] <mr_sticky> ok tthen
#1010 [09:29] <Morrolan> The guide on http://techie-buzz.com/how-to/google-public-dns-on-win7-and-winxp.html is pretty good btw, if you want some visual confirmation. :)
#1011 [09:29] <mr_sticky> this wont mess up our internet right?
#1012 [09:30] <Morrolan> Nah.
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#1014 [09:30] <Morrolan> 8.8.8.8 is a DNS server provided by Google, they are pretty reliable. :)
#1015 [09:30] <mr_sticky> ok
#1016 [09:30] <mr_sticky> now do I try going into servers
#1017 [09:31] <Morrolan> After you hit "ok", yea.
#1018 [09:32] <Morrolan> Respectively, if you now put "nslookup session.minecraft.net" in a console it should produce a response, and no timeout.
#1019 [09:32] <mr_sticky> ok
#1020 [09:34] <mr_sticky> It works :D Thanks alot guys! Especially Morrolan :D
#1021 [09:34] <Morrolan> Sure thing. :)
#1022 [09:34] <Morrolan> You can fix it the same way on your sister's computer, btw. :)
#1023 [09:34] <Morrolan> (In case she wants to play it too)
#1024 [09:34] <mr_sticky> Do you think I'll have the same problem next time
#1025 [09:35] <Morrolan> No, as long as you don't change that setting there it should be fine.
#1026 [09:35] <mr_sticky> ok then :D thanks alot :D igtg bye :D
#1027 [09:35] <Morrolan> Well, if you connect over a wireless network then you will have to change the DNS server in the wireless network's setting.
#1028 [09:35] <Morrolan> But yea. have fun. :)
#1029 [09:35] <DiskDaemon> There are instructions on how to make a similar change, that may want to be bookmarked for the future http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/15037-dns-addressing-how-change-windows-7-a.html
#1030 [09:35] <mr_sticky> wait what? XD
#1031 [09:36] <Morrolan> Remember where you selected "Local Area Connection"?
#1032 [09:36] <mr_sticky> yep
#1033 [09:36] <Morrolan> If you conenct via wireless, you will have to choose "Wireless connection" or however it's called there, and then proceed as usual.
#1034 [09:36] <mr_sticky> oh ok
#1035 [09:36] <Morrolan> That is, right click -> properties -> Ipv4 -> properties -> DNS server
#1036 [09:36] <Morrolan> But yea. :)
#1037 [09:37] <mr_sticky> so its the same?
#1038 [09:37] <Morrolan> Yep.
#1039 [09:38] <mr_sticky> oh ok thanks XD if I have problems again I'll just come back XD bye :D
#1040 [09:38] <Morrolan> Sure. :)
#1041 [09:38] <Morrolan> Bye.
#1042 [09:38] <mr_sticky> bye :D
#1043 [09:39] <Morrolan> One client, one hour.
#1044 [09:40] <Morrolan> I can understand why Mojang's Support can't keep up0. :P
#1045 [09:43] <Hakio`> can someone help me ? i have server and port open but nobody can join
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#1050 [10:04] <hipy> Hi, is there a bug tracker or something?
#1051 [10:04] <hipy> I got a very annyoing bug in the linux version of minecraft. Your keys randomly hang(keep being pressed)
#1052 [10:04] <hipy> so you fly off
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#1060 [10:14] <Kendecil> The bank is saying it's Minecraft's end.
#1061 [10:15] <Calinou> ?
#1062 [10:15] <Calinou> oh
#1063 [10:15] <TheNoodle> Not much we can do..
#1064 [10:15] <Morrolan> hipy - There's a list on the wiki: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_1.2.5
#1065 [10:16] <Morrolan> Kendecil - Unless your bank is also your credit card provider, call the credit card provider.
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#1067 [10:16] <Morrolan> If both claim that it's not their issue then you'll have to contact Moneybookers / PayPal.
#1068 [10:16] <Kendecil> It is the credit card/ debit provider and bank that says it's Mojang
#1069 [10:16] <Kendecil> Okay.
#1070 [10:17] <Morrolan> Mojang does not do anything with payments, moneybookers / PayPal do.
#1071 [10:17] <Kendecil> Should I try the payment directly throught Moneybookers?
#1072 [10:17] <Kendecil> through*
#1073 [10:17] <Morrolan> If you tried PayPal so far then you could try Moneybookers as a payment method, yes.
#1074 [10:18] <Morrolan> Oh, if you're based in Illnois then you can't use Moneybookers btw, they don't have a license there.
#1075 [10:18] <Morrolan> Or atleast I think it was Illnois.
#1076 [10:18] <Morrolan> Illinois*
#1077 [10:18] <Kendecil> Okay, I live in MA
#1078 [10:18] <Kendecil> I'll have my friend even try it for me/
#1079 [10:18] <Kendecil> .*
#1080 [10:19] <Kendecil> I'll try moneybookers.
#1081 [10:20] <Kendecil> moneybookers (search) doesn't have MC?
#1082 [10:20] <Morrolan> No, select it as a Payment option during your Minecraft purchase.
#1083 [10:20] <Morrolan> You can't buy it through their site. ;)
#1084 [10:21] <Kendecil> Okay, sorry I just woke up XD
#1085 [10:21] <Morrolan> Also, there used to be a list of where they've got licenses at https://www.moneybookers.com/app/help.pl?s=statelicensing , but I can't access that one.
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#1089 [10:37] <|Anthony|> !check mcrpg.servegame.,com
#1090 [10:37] <|Anthony|> !check mcrpg.servegame.com
#1091 [10:38] <Morrolan> One out of seven? Now that's unique.
#1092 [10:38] <Morrolan> Most servers claim to have 4000 slots atleast.
#1093 [10:38] <Morrolan> at least
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#1096 [10:52] <|Anthony|> lol Morrolan
#1097 [10:52] <|Anthony|> 7 is about the max i can host with my current bandwidth
#1098 [10:53] <Morrolan> Ah. :)
#1099 [10:53] <|Anthony|> and the one on is me
#1100 [10:53] <|Anthony|> obviously
#1101 [10:53] <|Anthony|> hehe
#1102 [10:53] <Morrolan> Indeed, getting a server full isn't that easy, there's just too many.
#1103 [10:54] <Morrolan> And Minecraft servers being that easy to set up doesn't help in reducing the amount of servers out in the net.
#1104 [10:54] <|Anthony|> i actually do run a full server
#1105 [10:54] <Calinou> <|Anthony|> 7 is about the max i can host with my current bandwidth
#1106 [10:54] <Calinou> beat you to it; I can host 1 player + me, only
#1107 [10:54] <|Anthony|> it will be full for several hours some days
#1108 [10:54] <Calinou> if the bandwidth was not an issue, I could host 60 players or so
#1109 [10:55] <|Anthony|> and crckets on others
#1110 [10:55] <|Anthony|> new topic...
#1111 [10:55] <|Anthony|> Oracle (Sun) Java 6 reaches its End of Life in November, 2012
#1112 [10:55] <|Anthony|> comments?
#1113 [10:56] <Morrolan> |Anthony| - Ah, nice. :)
#1114 [10:56] <Morrolan> Not the Java one.
#1115 [10:56] <Morrolan> You having a community to back the server up.
#1116 [10:57] <|Anthony|> what do you mean not the java one?
#1117 [10:57] <Morrolan> As for Java 6 being phased out, if it wasn't for Minecraft I'd be happy. No use in supporting old code.
#1118 [10:57] <Calinou> <|Anthony|> Oracle (Sun) Java 6 reaches its End of Life in November, 2012
#1119 [10:57] <Calinou> gah... bugginess enforced
#1120 [10:57] <Calinou> it's still usable though 8)
#1121 [10:57] <Morrolan> Yea, but I guess there won't be any security fixes anymore.
#1122 [10:57] <|Anthony|> right
#1123 [10:57] <Morrolan> |Anthony| - I wanted to express that my "Ah, nice" wasn't about Java being phased out.
#1124 [10:57] <Morrolan> Java 6
#1125 [10:57] <|Anthony|> wonder if openjdk will continue to update
#1126 [10:58] <|Anthony|> doubtful that mc will switch to 7
#1127 [10:58] <|Anthony|> possible... but doubtful
#1128 [10:59] <Morrolan> Well, I'm happy if they make it _work_ with Java 7 for now.
#1129 [10:59] <Morrolan> And, well, moving to Java 6 would be nice already.
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#1131 [11:01] <mattyfish9> hello can anyone help me
#1132 [11:03] <|Anthony|> noone will be able to answer that question until you ask the next question
#1133 [11:03] <|Anthony|> why do people ask the second question first
#1134 [11:04] <mattyfish9> ok dont have to be rude
#1135 [11:04] <|Anthony|> lol... not being rude, just matter of fact
#1136 [11:04] <mattyfish9> basicly i can get mc to start when i log in it asks me to update if i say yes it fails if i say no it doesnt load
#1137 [11:05] <|Anthony|> have you tried a fresh install?
#1138 [11:05] <mattyfish9> i have tried several
#1139 [11:05] <|Anthony|> any recent network changes?
#1140 [11:05] <mattyfish9> nope
#1141 [11:06] <|Anthony|> it your user account authenticated?
#1142 [11:06] <mattyfish9> yes
#1143 [11:07] <|Anthony|> do you have a network firewall/router?
#1144 [11:07] <|Anthony|> or just the os firewall
#1145 [11:07] <mattyfish9> i have avg but it has never stopped me before other than that no firewalls
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#1147 [11:08] <|Anthony|> some firewall systems have automatic protections
#1148 [11:08] <mattyfish9> but i worked fine 2 days ago
#1149 [11:08] <|Anthony|> avg makes automatic rules
#1150 [11:08] <|Anthony|> check the rule set to see
#1151 [11:09] <|Anthony|> or you could temporarily disable it and try again
#1152 [11:09] <|Anthony|> just to rule it out as the cause
#1153 [11:09] <mattyfish9> ok ill try it
#1154 [11:10] <mattyfish9> its updating but it might stop
#1155 [11:11] <mattyfish9> omg it worked
#1156 [11:12] <mattyfish9> thanks @|Anthony|
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#1158 [11:25] <pangus> minecraft keeps randomly freezing up when i play
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#1163 [11:36] <|Anthony|> am i missing something here?
#1164 [11:36] <|Anthony|> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/index-137561.html#linux
#1165 [11:36] <|Anthony|> i can't find the download...
#1166 [11:37] <|Anthony|> the dl i find is a tar.gz
#1167 [11:37] <|Anthony|> not a bin or .so
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#1169 [11:41] <|Anthony|> think i found it
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#1172 [11:45] <SkinnyPigGirl> Hi I have destroyed one laptop - will not launch windows. And The other desktop keep crashing when Minecraft play starts. The other desktop gets the Black Screen of death. Question. How can I get minecraft to open and connect without getting the black screen. It looks like it will klaunch than closes.
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#1175 [11:54] <|Anthony|> argh
#1176 [11:54] <|Anthony|> having trouble installing sunjava
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#1179 [11:59] <Lakis> Hi, my minecraft 1.3 pre-release just crashed, where can I post the crash report?
#1180 [12:00] <Morrolan> We don't support prereleases.
#1181 [12:01] <Morrolan> Hmph.
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#1190 [12:30] <Kendecil> I bought minecraft!
#1191 [12:31] <Kendecil> But it's not loading...
#1192 [12:31] <Kendecil> Any help?
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#1195 [12:38] <Kendecil> Anyone please?
#1196 [12:38] <antoniss95> Hello, @Morrolan are you here ?
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#1200 [12:40] <Kendecil> Come on I've been waiting 10 minutes...
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#1202 [12:41] <Squicquero75> When i click on the minecraft icon, i makes a boom sound and doesn't allow me to play it. why is that?
#1203 [12:43] <Kendecil> They're all silent, I've been waiting for 13 minutes
#1204 [12:43] <Squicquero75> hello?
#1205 [12:44] <Squicquero75> oh
#1206 [12:46] <|Anthony|> Squicquero75, a boom sound?
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#1208 [12:47] <Squicquero75> idk how to explain it. if you say boom it sounds like that
#1209 [12:48] <|Anthony|> a creeper noise? tnt? or something not akin to minecraft at all?
#1210 [12:49] <Squicquero75> nothing like an explosion. if you say the word boom aloud it sounds like that
#1211 [12:49] <|Anthony|> that is odd
#1212 [12:49] * |Anthony| just said BOOM irl
#1212 [12:49] <Squicquero75> ?
#1213 [12:50] <|Anthony|> is this a new development, or have you never launched minecraft on this computer?
#1214 [12:50] <Squicquero75> ive never been able to launch it
#1215 [12:50] <Kendecil> Me to
#1216 [12:51] <|Anthony|> do you have java6 installed?
#1217 [12:51] <Squicquero75> yes
#1218 [12:51] <|Anthony|> what os
#1219 [12:52] <Squicquero75> windows xp
#1220 [12:52] <|Anthony|> java6 not java7 right?
#1221 [12:52] <Squicquero75> yea java 6. i had to get rid of 7
#1222 [12:52] <|Anthony|> k
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#1224 [12:53] <|Anthony|> so this is the minecraft.jar you downloaded from the minecraft site correct?
#1225 [12:53] <Squicquero75> yes
#1226 [12:53] <Squicquero75> not .jar but e.e
#1227 [12:53] <Squicquero75> whoops exe
#1228 [12:53] <|Anthony|> did you try deleting it and re-downloading?
#1229 [12:53] <Squicquero75> no
#1230 [12:53] <|Anthony|> maybe the download was corrupt?
#1231 [12:54] <|Anthony|> just to be clear... it never installed?
#1232 [12:54] <|Anthony|> you're still only working with the original download file... which needs to unpack and install itself?
#1233 [12:55] <Squicquero75> i guess. i not good with computers
#1234 [12:55] <Squicquero75> i downloaded it then placed it on the home screen
#1235 [12:55] <|Anthony|> try deleting it and re-downloading
#1236 [12:56] <|Anthony|> Kendecil, were you able to install?
#1237 [12:56] <Squicquero75> it did the same thing
#1238 [12:57] <|Anthony|> Squicquero75, i suspect a java issue
#1239 [12:57] <|Anthony|> make sure you have properly removed java7 and installed java6
#1240 [12:58] <Squicquero75> i did. its java 6 update 33
#1241 [12:58] <|Anthony|> things don't always uninstall cleanly
#1242 [12:59] <|Anthony|> downgrading java, or any program really can be frustrating
#1243 [12:59] <Squicquero75> how do i do it then. my dad did it for me yesterday
#1244 [13:01] <|Anthony|> http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#1245 [13:03] <Squicquero75> then what, how do i install java 6 again?
#1246 [13:03] <|Anthony|> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/regkey_addremove.xml
#1247 [13:04] <|Anthony|> make sure it's gone
#1248 [13:04] <|Anthony|> a reboot may be required
#1249 [13:04] <|Anthony|> and then, yes, once you have no traces of any java installed
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#1251 [13:05] <|Anthony|> install java6
#1252 [13:05] * |Anthony| is afk
#1252 [13:05] <hawkebha> hey guys
#1253 [13:06] <hawkebha> i have an issue with the game and hopefully you guys can give me a hand with it. I am seeing lines around the blocks, any idea on how to get rid of them?
#1254 [13:07] <Morrolan> Disable things like forced antialiasing in your graphic driver's control panel.
#1255 [13:07] <Morrolan> If this doesn't help - not sure what might.
#1256 [13:07] <Morrolan> And afk again, gotta fetch some dinner. :)
#1257 [13:07] <hawkebha> kk, will try
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#1259 [13:13] <hawkebha> that worked, thanks guys
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#1262 [13:18] <Squicquero75> yep it didn't work
#1263 [13:23] <|Anthony|> well if it didn't work... why didn't you stay long enough for further assistance?
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#1265 [13:23] <|Anthony|> lol
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#1268 [13:25] <Snorg> anyone on here any good at opening ports on ubuntu?
#1269 [13:26] <clarjon1> Snorg: eh?
#1270 [13:26] <Snorg> it seems I have the IPv6 for 25565 open on TCP, but perhaps not the IPv4 as it reports as being used?
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#1272 [13:27] <Snorg> i have tried restarting but it is consistently closed
#1273 [13:27] <clarjon1> Snorg: Did you put an IP in the server.properties?
#1274 [13:27] <slayerula> i need help logging into minecraft
#1275 [13:27] <Snorg> nope ip in server properties is blank
#1276 [13:28] <clarjon1> kk
#1277 [13:28] <clarjon1> Snorg: And how do you know that the port is closed?
#1278 [13:28] <Snorg> 12:12:52 [WARNING] The exception was: java.net.BindException: Address already in use 12:12:52 [WARNING] Perhaps a server is already running on that port?
#1279 [13:28] <Snorg> also transmission reports port as closed
#1280 [13:28] <clarjon1> that means that another program is using the port.
#1281 [13:28] <slayerula> miencraft keeps saying Oops, unknown username or password. i have made sure im putting in the right info
#1282 [13:28] <Snorg> yea but i don't know what it is
#1283 [13:28] <clarjon1> Snorg: ps aux | grep java
#1284 [13:29] <clarjon1> make sure you don't have any other MC servers running.
#1285 [13:29] <clarjon1> and wait, transmission? the torrent program?
#1286 [13:29] <Snorg> brad 3416 0.2 0.5 6125692 89136 pts/2 Sl+ 12:12 0:02 java -Xmx4G -Xms4G -jar Tekkit.jar brad 3550 0.0 0.0 13576 936 pts/0 S+ 12:28 0:00 grep --color=auto java
#1287 [13:29] <clarjon1> is that a tekkit server?
#1288 [13:29] <Snorg> yea transmission is a torrenting thing
#1289 [13:29] <Snorg> yea
#1290 [13:30] <clarjon1> Ok, so, since you have transmission to be using port 25565, kill off transmisison, end all java processes, and let's see..
#1291 [13:30] * clarjon1 digs thru his command reference
#1291 [13:30] <Snorg> shuld i use sys monitor to kill java?
#1292 [13:32] <clarjon1> pastebin the output of "sudo netstat -tulpn" please
#1293 [13:32] <Snorg> Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 752/rpcbind tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2673/dnsmasq tcp 0 0 127.0.0
#1294 [13:32] <clarjon1> no
#1295 [13:32] <clarjon1> http://pastebin.com/
#1296 [13:32] <clarjon1> paste it to there, then give the link
#1297 [13:32] <Snorg> ok sorry
#1298 [13:32] <Snorg> thx
#1299 [13:33] <Kealper> if you just paste things in to here, it messes up the formatting that the netstat tool put on it, and turns it in to one giant mess of a line instead of a nicely-formatted list
#1300 [13:33] <Kealper> pastebin.com and sites like it preserve that formatting
#1301 [13:33] <clarjon1> and prevents flooding.
#1302 [13:33] <Snorg> ok sry - i think this should work http://pastebin.com/0yJX24rf
#1303 [13:34] <clarjon1> hmmm.
#1304 [13:34] <clarjon1> is the tekkit server off now?
#1305 [13:35] <Snorg> i have my router set to forward that port 25565 to my internal ip as well
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#1307 [13:35] <Snorg> 192.168.1.2
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#1309 [13:35] <TheProGamer2> I need some help with my Mojang account.
#1310 [13:35] <TheProGamer2> I migrated my account a while ago, but I never set up any security questions.
#1311 [13:36] <TheProGamer2> Now when I try to go to settings, it asks the security questions.
#1312 [13:36] <TheProGamer2> I don't have the answers can someone help me?
#1313 [13:36] <Snorg> sry man i would like to help but i have no idea
#1314 [13:37] <Snorg> but i bet s/1 in here does
#1315 [13:37] <clarjon1> Snorg: can you pastebin the output of "lsof -i"
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#1317 [13:37] <Snorg> k
#1318 [13:37] <TheProGamer2> wat
#1319 [13:37] <TheProGamer2> pastebin?
#1320 [13:38] <TheProGamer2> dafaq is that
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#1322 [13:38] <clarjon1> TheProGamer2: It's a tool we use to have users paste large amounts of text so that they don't flood the room.
#1323 [13:38] <Snorg> it is a copy paster service so i don't slam this place with computer crap
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#1325 [13:38] <TheProGamer2_> oh where do I find this at?
#1326 [13:38] <TheProGamer2_> should I google it?
#1327 [13:39] <clarjon1> Snorg: and yeah, it will take a bit for the command to complete.
#1328 [13:39] <Snorg> http://pastebin.com/Uh9xXHJX
#1329 [13:39] <clarjon1> TheProGamer2_: It has nothing to do with your issue, I was talking to Snorg.
#1330 [13:39] <TheProGamer2_> o
#1331 [13:39] <clarjon1> Snorg: Huh. odd. can you fire up the server, see if it errors again?
#1332 [13:39] <Snorg> i'll try it
#1333 [13:40] <Snorg> lol? it started that time but I guess this means ppl can connect?
#1334 [13:41] <Snorg> i mean i can always cause i do localhost
#1335 [13:41] <clarjon1> !check dreamcraft.org
#1336 [13:41] <clarjon1> Snorg: what's the IP or hostname for the server?
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#1338 [13:42] <Snorg> 24.160.22.91 (please don't rape my internets - internet)
#1339 [13:42] <clarjon1> !check 24.160.22.91
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#1341 [13:42] <clarjon1> double check your port forwarding?
#1342 [13:42] <Snorg> ok
#1343 [13:43] <Snorg> i have this in my router settings
#1344 [13:43] <Snorg> http://pastebin.com/5ircBBvj
#1345 [13:43] <Snorg> sob
#1346 [13:43] <Snorg> my machine is now at 192.168.1.3
#1347 [13:43] <clarjon1> hah
#1348 [13:43] <Snorg> rage
#1349 [13:43] <Snorg> thx man
#1350 [13:43] <clarjon1> that'll do it lol.
#1351 [13:43] <clarjon1> np
#1352 [13:43] <Snorg> '<3
#1353 [13:44] <clarjon1> have fun :3
#1354 [13:44] <Snorg> thx
#1355 [13:51] <TheProGamer2_> can anyone help me
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#1357 [13:57] <papascrumptious_> can someone help me setup a server?
#1358 [13:58] <papascrumptious_> ???
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#1360 [13:59] <Snorg> how can i check to see if a server is connectable again
#1361 [14:00] <Snorg> thx
#1362 [14:00] <Snorg> in the server console?
#1363 [14:00] <Snorg> it says unknown command
#1364 [14:00] <Snorg> !check
#1365 [14:01] <Snorg> sweet
#1366 [14:01] <Kealper> that latency is pretty good figuring how far away you are
#1367 [14:01] <Kealper> only 106ms, and AuBot is in Michigan
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#1369 [14:02] <papascrumptious> can someone help me
#1370 [14:02] <Snorg> sweet
#1371 [14:02] <papascrumptious> ???
#1372 [14:02] <Kealper> papascrumptious: have you read the wiki page on setting up a server?
#1373 [14:02] <papascrumptious> yep
#1374 [14:02] <Kealper> what part are you having trouble understanding or doing?
#1375 [14:03] <papascrumptious> when i type that stuff into terminal it says command not found, or that there is no such file
#1376 [14:04] <Kealper> the "java -version" thing it asks you to type?
#1377 [14:04] <papascrumptious> yea
#1378 [14:05] <papascrumptious> the youtube video says that i need to type in how much gb i need and when i do that it doesnt work
#1379 [14:05] <Kealper> does the computer you plan to run the server on play Minecraft>
#1380 [14:05] <Kealper> ?*
#1381 [14:05] <papascrumptious> yea, its a mac desktop
#1382 [14:05] <Kealper> hmm
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#1384 [14:06] <Kealper> were you reading the instructions for Windows or for OSX on that wiki page?
#1385 [14:06] <papascrumptious> im not sure, lemme check
#1386 [14:06] <Kealper> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Setting_up_the_Minecraft_Server
#1387 [14:07] <Kealper> that link should take you right to the section on setting it up for Mac
#1388 [14:07] <papascrumptious> im watchin a video
#1389 [14:08] <Kealper> the thing i linked to is quite easy to follow, and is not much work at all as long as you do exactly what it says
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#1391 [14:10] <Kealper> although i must admit, i'm useless when it comes to providing any real assistance with Macs
#1392 [14:10] <Kealper> i've never used one, and you can't really know something well enough to assist others if you've never used it :o
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#1394 [14:23] <papascrumptious> i tried to open minecraft server in my folder and it says that this program cannot be run in DOS mode.
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#1396 [14:25] <papascrumptious> anybody?
#1397 [14:25] <wolf4> hi all
#1398 [14:25] <papascrumptious> can you help me?
#1399 [14:26] <wolf4> what you need help with ?
#1400 [14:26] <papascrumptious> server
#1401 [14:26] <papascrumptious> setting it up
#1402 [14:26] <wolf4> sry i cant help you with that is any body else here ?
#1403 [14:27] <papascrumptious> they were
#1404 [14:27] <wolf4> oh they left huh
#1405 [14:27] <papascrumptious> yep
#1406 [14:27] <wolf4> aww
#1407 [14:27] <wolf4> well can you help me ?
#1408 [14:27] <papascrumptious> yea, im so lost
#1409 [14:27] <papascrumptious> with what
#1410 [14:28] <wolf4> redstone ideas ?
#1411 [14:28] <papascrumptious> ok
#1412 [14:28] <wolf4> i need a tnt that will detonate when anybody trys to disable it
#1413 [14:28] <wolf4> just a idea tho
#1414 [14:29] <papascrumptious> gtg
#1415 [14:29] <wolf4> oh see ya
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#1417 [14:29] <wolf4> hi drew
#1418 [14:29] <drew> Hi, can anyone help me?
#1419 [14:29] <wolf4> idk what you need help with ?
#1420 [14:30] <drew> I think my friend stole my account and changed the password...
#1421 [14:30] <wolf4> ouch
#1422 [14:30] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1423 [14:30] <drew> I email Mojang about it like a month ago and havent heard back.
#1424 [14:30] <Morrolan> Mojang is currently working on emails from two months ago.
#1425 [14:30] <Morrolan> So you'd have to wait another month. ;)
#1426 [14:30] <Morrolan> But why not just reset your password?
#1427 [14:31] <drew> Morrolan i tried that, i dont have access to the account:,(
#1428 [14:31] <drew> Wow that sucks:(
#1429 [14:31] <Morrolan> What?
#1430 [14:31] <Morrolan> You don't need access to the Minecraft account to reset your password.
#1431 [14:31] <Morrolan> Enter your username there, then you'll get a password reset link sent per mail.
#1432 [14:31] <Morrolan> e-mail
#1433 [14:31] <wolf4> thats a good idea
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#1435 [14:31] <wolf4> hi spud
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#1438 [14:32] <wolf4> hi
#1439 [14:32] <drew> Yes but im pretty sure my friend switched the emails linked to the account because i haven't received and email and i've tried doing that countless times.
#1440 [14:32] <antoniss95> Hello, Morrolan are you online ?
#1441 [14:32] <wolf4> yes
#1442 [14:32] <wolf4> he is
#1443 [14:33] <Morrolan> antoniss95 - Mhm.
#1444 [14:33] <antoniss95> Did you find something ?
#1445 [14:33] <antoniss95> I don't know what to do :P
#1446 [14:33] <Morrolan> Nah, but, as I said, just idle in here a bit, one of the others might have an idea. :)
#1447 [14:34] <wolf4> is there a redstone hel page here ?
#1448 [14:34] <wolf4> help
#1449 [14:34] <Morrolan> drew - If this is the case then your only bet is to contact Mojang indeed. I hope you included your transaction ID when you sent them a mail a month ago?
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#1452 [14:34] <Morrolan> wolf4 - No channel dedicated to redstone, but you could try a general purpose channel like #minecraft
#1453 [14:34] <antoniss95> I sent the email two days ago
#1454 [14:34] <Morrolan> Wasn't talking to you, antoniss95, but to drew.
#1455 [14:34] <drew> I do not recall if i did or not. What exactly is the transaction ID again?
#1456 [14:34] <wolf4> they should be able to help me right ?
#1457 [14:35] <Morrolan> wolf4 - Well, if someone there is good with redstone and has some spare time, then yes.
#1458 [14:35] <wolf4> ok then ill try it
#1459 [14:35] <Morrolan> drew - It's the number which PayPal / the credit card provider uses to track the payment.
#1460 [14:35] <wolf4> thanks
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#1462 [14:37] <drew> I'm pretty sure i didn't because i can't find it. it's probably lost at the bottom of my emails:(
#1463 [14:37] <antoniss95> If someone have an idea about them, i would be gratefull if contact me "have a problem with Minecraft and i have tried a lot of different ways to fix them but the problem still remain.Every time I try to login from client, it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net" even though I have not put anything in the fieldsor different names. Futhermore i can connect from browser normally."
#1464 [14:39] <wolf4> thats odd ^
#1465 [14:40] <wolf4> the minecraft page isnt very active
#1466 [14:40] <wolf4> any other pages for redstone ?
#1467 [14:40] <antoniss95> Also i have tried the following solutions: Hosts, Java, Firewall, Drivers, re-install...
#1468 [14:41] <Morrolan> wolf4 - Channel, not page. ;)
#1469 [14:41] <Morrolan> Apart from that, try the forum.
#1470 [14:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> antoniss95 win/profile
#1471 [14:41] <VoxelHead> antoniss95: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1472 [14:41] <Morrolan> Or, you know, wait for more than a minute to get an answer.
#1473 [14:41] <VoxelHead> antoniss95: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
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#1475 [14:42] <antoniss95> I will try it, bye
#1476 [14:43] <antoniss95> What is "win/profile" ?
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#1478 [14:44] <Morrolan> win/profile is where the...
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#1480 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> Morrolan you seem to have be........
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#1482 [14:45] <Morrolan> Yes, Grim_Reaper? :D
#1483 [14:45] <Grim_Reaper> een cut off
#1484 [14:46] <skyboy> beeen cut off?
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#1486 [14:46] <Grim_Reaper> skyboy. No. een cut off
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#1488 [14:47] <skyboy> be...een -> beeen
#1489 [14:47] <Grim_Reaper> Oh I see :o You are right sir
#1490 [14:47] <wolf1> lol
#1491 [14:48] * skyboy beeens Grim_Reaper
#1491 [14:48] <Grim_Reaper> ;;
#1492 [14:48] <wolf1> lol
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#1494 [14:51] <antoniss95> I created a new user but the problem still remain
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#1496 [14:51] <wolf1> i dont see a fourms page for redstone can you link it ?
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#1498 [14:52] <wolf1> hi john
#1499 [14:52] <wolf1> nvm
#1500 [14:52] <Morrolan> wolf1 - I don't think there's any specific one, just ask in the most appropriate section.
#1501 [14:53] <wolf1> can youlink plz
#1502 [14:53] <Morrolan> No, read the section's descriptions, look which one fits best.
#1503 [14:54] <wolf1> ok ill try to find it
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#1506 [14:55] <Tealite> Hi everyone! -I have a question about installing a mod.. ::beg::
#1507 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> http://i.imgur.com/8jmU1.png
#1508 [14:56] <Grim_Reaper> Tealite your question will better be suited in #risucraft
#1509 [14:56] <Tealite> thank you :D
#1510 [14:56] <Grim_Reaper> They help with mods. We help with non mods :3
#1511 [15:00] <antoniss95> "Hello, i have a problem with Minecraft and i have tried a lot of different ways to fix them but the problem still remain.Every time I try to login from client, it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net" even though I have not put anything in the fieldsor different names. Futhermore i can connect from browser normally."
#1512 [15:01] <antoniss95> Solutions checked: Hosts, Firewall, re-install, New user account, Java...
#1513 [15:01] <xales> antoniss95: Do you know what version of Java you have?
#1514 [15:01] <antoniss95> Java 7 Update 5
#1515 [15:01] <Morrolan> 1.7, but the "force IPv4" parameter didn't help.
#1516 [15:01] <xales> Install 1.6 then? :p
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#1518 [15:02] <Morrolan> Is it responsible for issues other than using IPv6 by default then?
#1519 [15:02] <antoniss95> Nothing, i have installed so many Javas and different updates
#1520 [15:02] <antoniss95> I am not using IPv6
#1521 [15:03] <mary> hello
#1522 [15:03] <Morrolan> Java 7 is, but the batch file you grabbed earlier would've forced it to use IPv4
#1523 [15:03] <xales> Hello, mary.
#1524 [15:03] <xales> Morrolan: Could still be firewall or something. :p
#1525 [15:03] <antoniss95> I have checked with firewall disabled
#1526 [15:04] <mary> i can't get on my game it says i didn't buy it but i did
#1527 [15:04] <xales> mary: How long ago did you purchase it?
#1528 [15:04] <mary> 07/23/2012
#1529 [15:05] <xales> mary: Did it work before?
#1530 [15:05] <mary> yes
#1531 [15:05] <xales> Are you using the same account?
#1532 [15:05] <mary> yes
#1533 [15:05] <xales> Where did you buy it from?
#1534 [15:05] <mary> minecraft.net
#1535 [15:06] <xales> The only thing that would cause an account to lose it's premium status is if a chargeback was issued.
#1536 [15:06] <xales> Please check with your financial institution to see if this has occured.
#1537 [15:06] <xales> If it has, you will need to buy the game again.
#1538 [15:08] <antoniss95> I think no-one can help me because they don't know where is the problem. I will leave and i will re-search the internet. Maybe i will find something or i hope to find
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#1546 [15:31] <Anarch> Ok, so i'm a total noob to multiplayer Minecraft. What is a good place to start?
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#1548 [15:33] <Anarch> anyone? :P
#1549 [15:34] <xales> Anarch: Pick a server and start playing...
#1550 [15:34] <xales> Every server is a bit different, for the most part.
#1551 [15:34] <Anarch> Where do I find a list of servers to start playing on? They all have their own rules about where or what you're allowed to build and stuff?
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#1553 [15:35] <xales> Anarch: There are several server lists. One such list is http://minestatus.net/
#1554 [15:36] <wolf1> im working on a tnt and redstone trying to make it detonate when anyone trys to dissable it can anyone help me ?
#1555 [15:37] <xales> wolf1: NOT gate.
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#1559 [15:40] <Anarch> that serverlist is a bit overwhelming
#1560 [15:42] <xales> Anarch: Yeah. If you want a suggestion, I can recommend dreamcraft.org which is run by a friend of mine
#1561 [15:43] <Anarch> ok thank you
#1562 [15:44] <wolf1> hey o=how do i chang my nick name ?
#1563 [15:45] <xales> wolf1: On IRC, or in Minecraft?
#1564 [15:45] <wolf1> yes
#1565 [15:45] <xales> wolf1: "Yes" is not a valid answer to a multiple-choice question.
#1566 [15:45] <wolf1> irc i think
#1567 [15:45] <wolf1> lol
#1568 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> /nick newnick
#1569 [15:46] <wolf1> it doesnt seem to work i did /nick
#1570 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Do it here
#1571 [15:46] <Morrolan> You have to specify your desired nick.
#1572 [15:46] <wolf1> and them the name
#1573 [15:46] <wolf1> i did
#1574 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Type: /nick test1
#1575 [15:47] <wolf1> i did it does it work
#1576 [15:47] <wolf1> ni
#1577 [15:47] <wolf1> no
#1578 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Did... you press enter?
#1579 [15:47] <xales> wolf1: If you look carefully, it says "cannot change nick while banned on channel"
#1580 [15:47] <wolf1> yep
#1581 [15:47] <xales> Leave #minecraft and do it again.
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#1583 [15:48] <pyromaniac> yay
#1584 [15:48] <Morrolan> Uh, in this case none saw what you were writing in #minecraft, btw.
#1585 [15:49] <pyromaniac> lol how you know ?
#1586 [15:49] <craig> hello i was wondering if i have brought the game on xbox could i get a premium account on here for free?
#1587 [15:49] <pyromaniac> no i think you have to buy another
#1588 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Xbox and PC are not connected in any way
#1589 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> They're both seperate versions
#1590 [15:49] <pyromaniac> i have a xbox account
#1591 [15:50] <pyromaniac> and i cant play the pc version
#1592 [15:50] <xales> pyromaniac: That's how it works.
#1593 [15:50] <xales> If you buy Call of Duty for the Xbox, does it mean you can play it on the computer?
#1594 [15:50] <Morrolan> pyromaniac - #minecraft requires you to have your nickname registered in order to talk.
#1595 [15:50] <xales> No, it doesn't.
#1596 [15:50] <xales> Minecraft doesn't work that way, either.
#1597 [15:50] <craig> oh okay i was jw because i was thinking that in away it is more to buy on xbox
#1598 [15:51] <xales> wat
#1599 [15:51] <Morrolan> alot, alittle, away.
#1600 [15:51] <Morrolan> We need more fluffy animals to represent all these new words.
#1601 [15:51] <Morrolan> Well, away is one, already, but alittle.
#1602 [15:51] <pyromaniac3814> lol
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#1604 [15:53] <GreyVulpine> wontwork - What doesn't?
#1605 [15:54] <wontwork> this was left on herre from yesterday i was just wondering is it cheaper to but minecraft on here or on xbox 360
#1606 [15:55] <xales> The computer version of Minecraft and the Xbox version are very different.
#1607 [15:55] <xales> Buy whichever one you want to play.
#1608 [15:55] <Morrolan> The Xbox version is cheaper in terms of money though, I believe.
#1609 [15:55] <pyromaniac3814> its 20 bucks
#1610 [15:56] <Morrolan> bucks being?
#1611 [15:56] <pyromaniac3814> $$$
#1612 [15:56] <Morrolan> There you go then, the PC version is $27
#1613 [15:56] <wontwork> and in english punds?
#1614 [15:56] <pyromaniac3814> moola cash greenbacks
#1615 [15:56] <Morrolan> wontwork - Google.
#1616 [15:56] <Grim_Reaper> PC Version > Xbox version
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#1618 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> 20 euros
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#1620 [15:57] <Morrolan> Throw "27 USD to GBP" and off you go.
#1621 [15:57] <MoDdEdSoUl> i need help
#1622 [15:57] <Morrolan> in Google and*
#1623 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> MoDdEdSoUl - With?
#1624 [15:57] <pyromaniac3814> with
#1625 [15:58] <MoDdEdSoUl> i put remember password and now i dont know what it is.
#1626 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1627 [15:59] <MoDdEdSoUl> i also dont know what the email is
#1628 [15:59] <pyromaniac3814> is anyone here up to helping me with restone
#1629 [15:59] <GreyVulpine> MoDdEdSoUl - Then check all the email accounts you normally use
#1630 [15:59] <MoDdEdSoUl> thanks
#1631 [16:00] <pyromaniac3814> is anyone here up to helping me with restone ?
#1632 [16:01] <xales> pyromaniac3814: I already told you, what you are looking for is a NOT gate.
#1633 [16:01] <pyromaniac3814> a not gate ?
#1634 [16:01] <xales> Yes.
#1635 [16:01] <xales> If you don't know what that is, you should read up on redstone on the wiki.
#1636 [16:01] <pyromaniac3814> whats that ?
#1637 [16:01] <pyromaniac3814> oh okthen
#1638 [16:02] <pyromaniac3814> will one be enough ?
#1639 [16:03] <xales> If you need to ask that, then you clearly don't understand what it is.
#1640 [16:04] <pyromaniac3814> i do lol i didnt know it was called a not gate
#1641 [16:04] <pyromaniac3814> i dont think it will work though
#1642 [16:05] <pyromaniac3814> it could be dissabled from the bottom or top
#1643 [16:06] <pyromaniac3814> so is there any way to make it blowup from the top and bottom too ?
#1644 [16:06] <xales> Add more explosives...
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#1646 [16:06] <chiptooth> i need help
#1647 [16:06] <wontwork> could someone refer me to a youtubeer who knows about redstone?
#1648 [16:06] <Grim_Reaper> google.com wontwork
#1649 [16:07] <chiptooth> how do i get support?
#1650 [16:07] <Grim_Reaper> chiptooth, please state your problem
#1651 [16:07] <wontwork> thank you :)
#1652 [16:07] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1653 [16:07] <clarjon1> "Please state the nature of your Minecraft emergency"
#1654 [16:07] <chiptooth> my problem is i made a minecraft acc chiptooth and it never sent the email thing so i clicked resend and it took me back now it says the name is taken
#1655 [16:08] <xales> chiptooth: Did you check your spam folder?
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#1657 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> Have your checked your spam folder?
#1658 [16:08] <chiptooth> ii will
#1659 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> xales too slow
#1660 [16:08] <chiptooth> empty
#1661 [16:08] <chiptooth> i have the youtube chiptooth and i need this mc name
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#1663 [16:08] <chiptooth> please help
#1664 [16:08] <Dole> With?
#1665 [16:08] <Grim_Reaper> What email do you use? like hotmail or?
#1666 [16:08] <chiptooth> is there anyway i can contact mojang
#1667 [16:08] <chiptooth> yahoo
#1668 [16:08] <Dole> Support
#1669 [16:09] <Grim_Reaper> http://help.mojang.com
#1670 [16:09] <Dole> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1671 [16:09] <chiptooth> that does nothing
#1672 [16:09] <chiptooth> i need to speak with soemone
#1673 [16:09] <Dole> There is no phone number.
#1674 [16:09] <chiptooth> there is no solution to that problem on that link
#1675 [16:09] <Grim_Reaper> You can send them an email
#1676 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> That is the only official method of communicating with Mojang
#1677 [16:09] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1678 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Check Dole's link
#1679 [16:09] <chiptooth> do they reply fast
#1680 [16:09] <Dole> Not at all.
#1681 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Their backlog is currently 2 months
#1682 [16:09] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1683 [16:09] <chiptooth> one sec
#1684 [16:10] <chiptooth> thanks guys
#1685 [16:10] <chiptooth> what
#1686 [16:10] <chiptooth> 2 months
#1687 [16:10] <Dole> ITs at 2 months?
#1688 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#1689 [16:10] <chiptooth> im not waiting 2 months this is rediculous
#1690 [16:10] <GreyVulpine> See for yourself
#1691 [16:10] <chiptooth> so they really wont reply to me for 2 months
#1692 [16:11] * GreyVulpine nods\
#1692 [16:11] <chiptooth> im not purchasing a new acc then
#1693 [16:11] <Dole> I have a major issue to.
#1694 [16:11] <chiptooth> omg i got the email!
#1695 [16:11] <Grim_Reaper> Hopefully.. they will hire more people to do email support soon
#1696 [16:11] <Grim_Reaper> Well done
#1697 [16:11] <Dole> You did chip?
#1698 [16:11] <chiptooth> thanks for the help guys but i go the emaikl
#1699 [16:12] <xales> HOW DO I PATIENCE
#1700 [16:12] <xales> ???????
#1701 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#1702 [16:12] <chiptooth> keep up the good work
#1703 [16:12] <chiptooth> thanks grim
#1704 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> We shalll
#1705 [16:12] <chiptooth> tole
#1706 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> Np
#1707 [16:12] <chiptooth> and gey
#1708 [16:12] <Grim_Reaper> xales you're banned from here. Leave or /gline ;-;
#1709 [16:12] <xales> :(
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#1711 [16:12] <Dole> Well I cant play on my client for along time then.
#1712 [16:13] <onyxlexi> what does it mean when it says could not create the Java Virtual Machine? i cant play my minecraft game
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#1714 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> Is there more to the error?
#1715 [16:14] <GreyVulpine> If it's a long error report, please post it at www.pastebin.com and give us the URL so that we may read it
#1716 [16:14] <onyxlexi> well i double click on the minecraft icon and then I click run and it says that
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#1718 [16:14] <Dole> Is there any way to delete an account off your mojang account?
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#1720 [16:14] <MrBondaygee_> hi friends
#1721 [16:14] <MrBondaygee_> can i ask another question?
#1722 [16:14] <pyromaniac3814> is beta 1.8.1 better than beta 1.7.3 ?
#1723 [16:14] <Dole> Have you tried googling it
#1724 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> Dole - That's something you'll need to talk to Mojang for
#1725 [16:15] <MrBondaygee_> did try
#1726 [16:15] <MrBondaygee_> not much of an answer
#1727 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Try uninstalling and reinstalling java
#1728 [16:15] <GreyVulpine> MrBondaygee_ - What's your question?
#1729 [16:15] <xales> pyromaniac3814: Neither are available any longer.
#1730 [16:15] <Dole> Thats what I thought, ugg cant play for along time now, i guess thanks any ways.
#1731 [16:15] <onyxlexi> okay thanks GreyVulpine
#1732 [16:15] <MrBondaygee_> just bought a gift code for my second son, made him a new account but the verifcation is not coming to his email address
#1733 [16:16] <pyromaniac3814> lol they are if your playing xbox
#1734 [16:16] <MrBondaygee_> some say it can take up to a week ..
#1735 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> It doesn't
#1736 [16:16] <GreyVulpine> Have him check his spam folders, wait a little bit. If it still doesn't come, you can re-request it using: http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#1737 [16:16] <clarjon1> GreyVulpine: did they re-enable paypal for gift codes yet?
#1738 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Nope
#1739 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> That's been removed since January
#1740 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Too many scammed accounts
#1741 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1742 [16:17] <pyromaniac3814> and if they update it to beta 1.8.1 will i loose my maps ?
#1743 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> No
#1744 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> And beta 1.8.1 is very very old
#1745 [16:17] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1746 [16:18] <pyromaniac3814> yes i know
#1747 [16:18] <Dole> Why, would you want it on the xbox?
#1748 [16:18] <pyromaniac3814> i prefure the controler
#1749 [16:18] <xales> ._.
#1750 [16:18] <Dole> O_o
#1751 [16:18] <xales> ^
#1752 [16:18] <pyromaniac3814> but if the maps dont get bigger i might play the pc insted
#1753 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> PC > Xbox
#1754 [16:19] <Grim_Reaper> I cant say it enough
#1755 [16:19] <GreyVulpine> The PC will always have better, more up to date features than the xbox
#1756 [16:19] <Dole> +mods
#1757 [16:20] <onyxlexi> @GreyVulpine is the java download on mincraft.net or do i have to go to their website
#1758 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> You don't need to pay 2 bucks for a character creation item
#1759 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Java.com
#1760 [16:20] <pyromaniac3814> they say there will be mods
#1761 [16:20] <pyromaniac3814> for xbox
#1762 [16:20] <Dole> Mods they chose.
#1763 [16:20] <GreyVulpine> That you'll most likely have to pay money for
#1764 [16:20] <pyromaniac3814> true
#1765 [16:20] <Grim_Reaper> That too GreyVulpine :p
#1766 [16:21] <Dole> And your going to have to pay $25
#1767 [16:21] <GreyVulpine> Just like every aspect of your character costs money to add onto on the xbox
#1768 [16:21] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1769 [16:21] <pyromaniac3814> but people are hacking the game allredy lol so they might have to make a program just to stop it lol
#1770 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> On the PC, want a new player skin? Oh look, player created content for free: http://www.minecraftskins.com/
#1771 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Want a mod? Oh look, all free
#1772 [16:22] <GreyVulpine> Texture packs? Free
#1773 [16:22] <Dole> PC WTF
#1774 [16:22] <pyromaniac3814> all free
#1775 [16:22] <Dole> Yes
#1776 [16:23] <pyromaniac3814> yes i know there all free lol i thought about getting the pc version but i dont have a good pc and i had the xbox so...
#1777 [16:23] <Dole> How much ram do you have?
#1778 [16:24] <pyromaniac3814> i did a lot of reading on the pc one
#1779 [16:24] <pyromaniac3814> i have 2 gig
#1780 [16:24] <xales> Dole: GPU is much more important, for the most part.
#1781 [16:24] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1782 [16:24] * Grim_Reaper steals all xales's ram
#1782 [16:24] <Grim_Reaper> Try use your pc nao!
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#1784 [16:24] <xales> Grim_Reaper: heyyeyaaeyaaaeyaeyaa
#1785 [16:24] <Dole> Ram plays a big role in minecraft.
#1786 [16:24] <xales> downloadmoreram.com
#1787 [16:25] <xales> Dole: Not as much as the GPU. :p
#1788 [16:25] <bildramer> ewe don't say
#1789 [16:25] <pyromaniac3814> but theis two enough ?
#1790 [16:25] <pyromaniac3814> the 2gig
#1791 [16:25] <Grim_Reaper> 2 is ok
#1792 [16:25] <Grim_Reaper> The more the better naturally.. But 2 will play it
#1793 [16:25] <xales> pyromaniac3814: What matters is your GPU, more than anything else.
#1794 [16:25] <Dole> What OS you have
#1795 [16:25] <pyromaniac3814> difine OS plz
#1796 [16:25] <GreyVulpine> ?? os
#1797 [16:25] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#1798 [16:25] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
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#1800 [16:26] <pyromaniac3814> ok i have a acer with windows xp
#1801 [16:26] <pyromaniac3814> that what you wanted ?
#1802 [16:26] <Grim_Reaper> Why not just get him to do dxdiag
#1803 [16:26] <Grim_Reaper> Then we can see if his pc will run it fine
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#1805 [16:26] <Grim_Reaper> ??> pyromaniac3814 win/dxdiag
#1806 [16:26] <Dole> Thats what I was going to say.
#1807 [16:26] <VoxelHead> pyromaniac3814: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1808 [16:26] <VoxelHead> pyromaniac3814: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1809 [16:27] <Grim_Reaper> Follow those instructions
#1810 [16:27] <Grim_Reaper> And we'll let you know if your pc can play it
#1811 [16:27] <pyromaniac3814> ok i think
#1812 [16:28] <Dole> http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/intro.aspx this is good too.
#1813 [16:28] <onyxlexi> @GreyVulpine I deleted java and redownloaded it and my minecraft still gives me an error
#1814 [16:28] <Dole> Not 100% but it should give a good idea
#1815 [16:28] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Is there more to the error than just that one message?
#1816 [16:29] <Dole> There should be a new text doc on you desktop
#1817 [16:29] <Dole> Or should I say could be.
#1818 [16:29] <onyxlexi> @GreyVulpine it also says a fatal exeption has occured. Program will exit
#1819 [16:29] <Dole> I still think I have the strangest error.
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#1821 [16:30] <Grim_Reaper> @GreyVulpine you're @
#1822 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> How exactly did you uninstall java, onyxlexi?
#1823 [16:30] <onyxlexi> I went to my control panel and i uninstalled it form their
#1824 [16:31] <pyromaniac3814> nope i fail lol
#1825 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Did you remove all traces of java before reinstalling with the latest from java.com?
#1826 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> From the control panel, I mean?
#1827 [16:31] <onyxlexi> would they all have java in the name
#1828 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1829 [16:32] <onyxlexi> then yes i did
#1830 [16:32] <pyromaniac3814> i need a faster cpu and video card to play the pc minecraft
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#1832 [16:32] <GreyVulpine> pyromaniac3814 - If you gave us a dxdiag, we could tell you if you needed that
#1833 [16:32] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#1834 [16:33] <pyromaniac3814> http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/analysis.aspx?name=Minecraft&id=11356
#1835 [16:33] <pyromaniac3814> this i think will work
#1836 [16:33] <xales> CARET
#1837 [16:33] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#1838 [16:33] <onyxlexi> see i played my minecraft game yesterday and today i downloaded some mods and texture packs today for my game and i was wondering if that could have messed it up @GreyVulpine
#1839 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Hmm. Could you attempt to run minecraft with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#1840 [16:33] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Could very well be, yes
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#1842 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Please follow these instructions instead:
#1843 [16:34] <Elystus> Huh, those can you run it guys tweeted me about system requirements a few months ago... :/
#1844 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> ??> onyxlexi win/reinst
#1845 [16:34] <VoxelHead> onyxlexi: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1846 [16:34] <VoxelHead> onyxlexi: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1848 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> ??> pyromaniac3814 win/dxdiag
#1849 [16:35] <VoxelHead> pyromaniac3814: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1850 [16:35] <VoxelHead> pyromaniac3814: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1851 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Can you give us a dxidag pyromaniac3814?
#1852 [16:35] <onyxlexi> Voxe1Heade it will keep my worlds am i correct
#1853 [16:35] <pyromaniac3814> i think so
#1854 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1855 [16:35] <Dole> Is it possible to delete a mojang account?
#1856 [16:35] <Grim_Reaper> No..
#1857 [16:36] <GreyVulpine> Don't believe so
#1858 [16:36] <Dole> Well, this is annoying
#1859 [16:37] <onyxlexi> @Voxe1Head should I delete the bin also in my minecraft folder
#1860 [16:38] <xales> onyxlexi: You should delete everything except the saves directory, just like the instructions said.
#1861 [16:38] <pyromaniac3814> thats alot of info cant i be hacked if i give that out /
#1862 [16:38] <xales> pyromaniac3814: No.
#1863 [16:38] <GreyVulpine> Here's one dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/NixX92bi
#1864 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> Here's another: http://pastebin.com/tA8X5Pmh
#1865 [16:39] <pyromaniac3814> ARE YOU SHURE ?
#1866 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> And another: http://pastebin.com/u1F5fXHU
#1867 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> And another: http://pastebin.com/BJpf38Tu
#1868 [16:39] <Elystus> here is mine: http://pastebin.com/fgCXpe4e
#1869 [16:39] <GreyVulpine> And yet another one: http://pastebin.com/V6kzyLE5
#1870 [16:39] <xales> pyromaniac3814: Giving us a dxdiag is like telling us what color your car is. Knowing the color doesn't exactly help us steal it.
#1871 [16:39] <onyxlexi> @xales I deleted everything except the saves folder
#1872 [16:39] <xales> onyxlexi: Run Minecraft again.
#1873 [16:40] <Grim_Reaper> pyromaniac3814 the dxdiag info just tells us information about your computers specs, and such
#1874 [16:40] <Grim_Reaper> You cannot be hacked at all
#1875 [16:40] <Grim_Reaper> I will even happily paste my own dxdiag if you really want
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#1877 [16:41] <Elystus> Grim, I already did ;)
#1878 [16:41] <Elystus> my own that is.
#1879 [16:41] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#1881 [16:42] <pyromaniac3814> http://pastebin.com/6vGxaYj4
#1882 [16:42] <pyromaniac3814> THERE !!!
#1883 [16:42] <pyromaniac3814> now what ?
#1884 [16:42] <Grim_Reaper> Give us a sec
#1885 [16:42] <Denizen> goddamn i haven't seen an atom in a while
#1886 [16:43] <Grim_Reaper> I think your gpu isn't going to be able to play it
#1887 [16:43] <onyxlexi> @GreyVulpine it still wont let me on minecraft
#1888 [16:43] <Grim_Reaper> Plus your processor is rather weak
#1889 [16:43] <xales> Grim_Reaper: CPU is going to have serious issues to, it'll probably lag like crap if it launches at all
#1890 [16:43] <xales> too*
#1891 [16:43] <Grim_Reaper> xales you're too slow :p
#1892 [16:43] <xales> no u
#1893 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> I'll have to agree with xales. It'll run, just not well
#1894 [16:43] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine but his gpu
#1895 [16:43] <Grim_Reaper> Has like.. no memory at all
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#1897 [16:43] <GreyVulpine> THe 945 will run minecraft.
#1898 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> It'll never break 10fps, but it'll run it
#1899 [16:44] <xales> More like "crawl"
#1900 [16:44] <Grim_Reaper> Really o.o?
#1901 [16:44] <Grim_Reaper> lol
#1902 [16:44] <clarjon1> Limp
#1903 [16:44] <pyromaniac3814> so no minecraft on my pc ? lol
#1904 [16:44] <Grim_Reaper> pyromaniac3814 sadly nope
#1905 [16:44] <xales> pyromaniac3814: Pretty much.
#1906 [16:44] <Grim_Reaper> if it runs, it'll run awfully
#1907 [16:44] <Elystus> ^
#1908 [16:44] <Denizen> it's very taxing
#1909 [16:44] <GreyVulpine> Grim_Reaper - Thing to remember, integrated intel video chipsets borrow from RAM
#1910 [16:44] <onyxlexi> GreyVulpine i deleted everything from the folder except the saves and it still will not run minecraft
#1911 [16:45] <Denizen> (although this is also terrible) i have a celeron 351 and an hd 4550 and 2gb of ram, it rarely breaks 20fps
#1912 [16:45] <pyromaniac3814> i know i tryed to classic and it lagged bad i had to set the render on min just to make it work lol
#1913 [16:45] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Hmm...
#1914 [16:45] <Denizen> pyro, i get 100fps on classic and 20fps on normal mc
#1915 [16:45] <Denizen> you will not be able to run it
#1916 [16:45] <Grim_Reaper> GreyVulpine I'll keep that in mind from now :3
#1917 [16:46] <onyxlexi> Any solutions GreyVulpine
#1918 [16:46] <GreyVulpine> I've seen the 965, the 945, and even the 915 run minecraft (with modified -xms arguments)
#1919 [16:46] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#1920 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Hmm, could you try runnning minecraft with these instructions: pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
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#1922 [16:47] <GreyVulpine> Once minecraft crashes, an error dump should show up in the cmd prompt window. Copy it to pastebin.com and give us the URL
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#1927 [16:48] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: is it possible to edit the 256 to be 384 on that pastebin?
#1928 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> I could...
#1929 [16:49] <Elystus> its the recommended min for minecraft.
#1930 [16:49] <pyromaniac3814> what is paste bin any way ?
#1931 [16:49] <onyxlexi> @GreyVulpine the very first link that tells me to download minecraft does not work
#1932 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> pyromaniac3814 it's a site to paste stuff in
#1933 [16:49] <GreyVulpine> It's just been my fall-back pastebin for debugging for a while
#1934 [16:49] <Grim_Reaper> It's usually used for pasting programming code though
#1935 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> but these days it's used for anything text based
#1936 [16:50] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi - Try: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#1937 [16:50] <pyromaniac3814> oh ok
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#1939 [16:50] <Grim_Reaper> http://pastebin.com/mhkXsuD2 my dxdiag
#1940 [16:51] <onyxlexi> GreyVulpine - Do I follow the same instructions
#1941 [16:51] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1942 [16:51] <pyromaniac3814> lol i cant run any thing thats newer but starcraft and warcraft3 runs great lol
#1943 [16:51] <Grim_Reaper> xP
#1944 [16:52] <pyromaniac3814> so whats the price of a good pc now ?
#1945 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> Define "good"
#1946 [16:52] <xales> As well as laptop or desktop. :p
#1947 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> You can get a PC for as little as 300 bucks, and as much as.. well, how much money do you want to throw at it?
#1948 [16:52] <pyromaniac3814> runs diablo 3 and other new games
#1949 [16:52] <onyxlexi> GreyVulpine - I should save it to my pc not run it right
#1950 [16:52] <Denizen> like, do you want to spend around $800 for a gaming desktop?
#1951 [16:52] <Denizen> ah
#1952 [16:52] <Denizen> in that case build it yourself
#1953 [16:52] <Denizen> which is a lot easier than it sounds
#1954 [16:52] <GreyVulpine> onyxlexi -Right
#1955 [16:53] <pyromaniac3814> sounds very hard
#1956 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> It really isn't
#1957 [16:53] <pyromaniac3814> is it cheaper than buying one ?
#1958 [16:53] <GreyVulpine> Insert Part A into Slot B. Repeat until all parts are gone
#1959 [16:54] <Elystus> I built a high class gaming pc for 1.2k
#1960 [16:54] <onyxlexi> GreyVulpine - How do you put it into a folder
#1961 [16:55] <Elystus> runs everything at 100+ fps
#1962 [16:55] <GreyVulpine> Save it, move the file into a folder
#1963 [16:56] <pyromaniac3814> dang thats a good pc but the 1.2k is out of my price range by almost double
#1964 [16:56] <pyromaniac3814> 700 would be my peak
#1965 [16:57] <onyxlexi> GreyVulpine - I am not very good with computers. What is the difference between a zipped folder and a regular folder
#1966 [16:57] <Elystus> pyromaniac3814: You can still build a pretty decent gaming pc for 700
#1967 [16:58] <Elystus> pyromaniac3814: mess around on this site for a bit: http://pcpartpicker.com/
#1968 [16:58] <pyromaniac3814> http://pastebin.com/LDqcptpp
#1969 [16:58] <pyromaniac3814> lol
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#1972 [17:00] <onyxlexi> GreyVulpine - I saved it but I dont know how to move it to a folder
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#1974 [17:01] <trollface10101> my friend can nolonger join my server
#1975 [17:02] <trollface10101> !!!
#1976 [17:02] <pyromaniac3814> aaaaa
#1977 [17:02] <pyromaniac3814> why ?
#1978 [17:02] <trollface10101> Help please
#1979 [17:03] <zkxs> trollface10101: Can people who aren't your friend join it?
#1980 [17:03] <trollface10101> It says cant reach server
#1981 [17:03] <trollface10101> it's worked before
#1982 [17:03] <xales> trollface10101: They are using the wrong address.
#1983 [17:03] <zkxs> Might a dynamic IP be the culprit?
#1984 [17:04] <trollface10101> ?
#1985 [17:04] <trollface10101> How do i fix that?
#1986 [17:04] <xales> !check 100.43.117.161
#1987 [17:04] <pyromaniac3814> ok so whats a good cpu ? just higher numbers ?
#1988 [17:04] <xales> hmph.
#1989 [17:04] <zkxs> trollface10101: Is the server on the computer you are currently on?
#1990 [17:04] <trollface10101> Yes
#1991 [17:04] <zkxs> Is it running now?
#1992 [17:05] <xales> pyromaniac3814: If you don't know how to pick a better processor, you are probably better off just buying a computer from HP or something.
#1993 [17:05] <trollface10101> Yes
#1994 [17:05] <zkxs> Is it on port 25565?
#1995 [17:05] <pyromaniac3814> xales i have to learn some how lol
#1996 [17:06] <trollface10101> Yes
#1997 [17:07] <zkxs> trollface10101: Well, it would seem that no one can get to your server then, not just your friend.
#1998 [17:07] <xales> pyromaniac3814: Yeah, take a class or read up on it or something
#1999 [17:07] <pyromaniac3814> so i know that the GHz should be high and that more cores is better most of the time
#2000 [17:07] <trollface10101> Why would that be?
#2001 [17:07] <Denizen> pyro: not neccessarily
#2002 [17:08] <Denizen> I suggest going to PCGamer.com and posting on their forums for advice on parts and building
#2003 [17:08] <Denizen> in the Tech section
#2004 [17:08] <zkxs> trollface10101: I'm not sure, but I can't see your server from here. This typically means something is wrong with your firewall, port forwarding, or server.properties
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#2006 [17:09] <trollface10101> try again i had the "whitelist= true"
#2007 [17:10] <xales> trollface10101: That's not the problem.
#2008 [17:10] <pyromaniac3814> ok thanks all of you for helping me i will read on pc parts and such and mabey i will make me a pc thats good and can run minecraft without lag and make it not have sticky keys from years of cat vommit
#2009 [17:12] <trollface10101> "Failed to check session lock, aborting" message came up in the server pannel
#2010 [17:12] <pyromaniac3814> if i type it white can you see it ?
#2011 [17:12] <pyromaniac3814> lol
#2012 [17:12] <pyromaniac3814> hahah
#2013 [17:12] <xales> trollface10101: Delete the session.lock
#2014 [17:12] <xales> file
#2015 [17:12] <xales> pyromaniac3814: Colors are not transmitted on this channel
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#2017 [17:13] <pyromaniac3814> what ?
#2018 [17:13] <pyromaniac3814> oh there
#2019 [17:13] <pyromaniac3814> ok
#2020 [17:13] <pyromaniac3814> forgot it was still white
#2021 [17:14] <trollface10101> How?
#2022 [17:14] <xales> trollface10101: Find the file, either in the server directory or the world directory, called session.lock, and delete it.
#2023 [17:15] <trollface10101> Deleted
#2024 [17:15] <pyromaniac3814> ps: is there a good keyboard cleaner that wont damage my computer and will remove cat vommit ? i dont think that household cleaner will be safe for my pc.
#2025 [17:16] <trollface10101> what now
#2026 [17:16] <trollface10101> Can you join?
#2027 [17:17] <trollface10101> Do i need to restart the server?
#2028 [17:17] <pyromaniac3814> well i gtg bye
#2029 [17:17] <xales> !check 100.43.117.161
#2030 [17:18] <xales> trollface10101: Yes, you need to restart it.
#2031 [17:19] <trollface10101> K
#2032 [17:19] <trollface10101> It still has the message
#2033 [17:20] <xales> trollface10101: Is the server already running?
#2034 [17:20] <xales> Or, in other words, are you trying to run it more than once?
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#2042 [18:01] <ZombieFreak07> oh god that's alot
#2043 [18:01] <ZombieFreak07> oh god that's alot
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#2046 [18:04] <TylerMcAwesome> hey i have a question
#2047 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> how can we help?
#2048 [18:06] <TylerMcAwesome> the server i usaually play on is appraently is testing the 1.3 release is that normal
#2049 [18:06] <Rikairchy> bukkit maybe
#2050 [18:08] <TylerMcAwesome> alrighty then thanks!
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#2055 [18:32] <Fapzz> hello
#2056 [18:33] <Fapzz> Can someone help me?
#2057 [18:33] <Fapzz> I bought minecraft and have the reciept but did not get premium
#2058 [18:33] <Fapzz> I just bought it right now.
#2059 [18:33] <Helloman892> What is your username?
#2060 [18:33] <Fapzz> Fapzz'
#2061 [18:33] <Fapzz> Fapzz
#2062 [18:34] <Elystus> how long is the number that you got from the transaction?
#2063 [18:34] <Helloman892> !paid Fapzz
#2064 [18:34] <Fapzz> I have the reciept..
#2065 [18:34] <Fapzz> !paid Fapzz
#2066 [18:34] <Helloman892> Yes, but it hasn't cleared, at least not yet.
#2067 [18:34] <Smanly> !paid GetGraped
#2068 [18:34] <Helloman892> You need to wait at least 1 hour.
#2069 [18:35] <Helloman892> !paid Helloman892
#2070 [18:35] <Fapzz> Ok
#2071 [18:35] <Smanly> :D
#2072 [18:35] <Helloman892> But please, don't spam with !paids.
#2073 [18:35] <Smanly> Hey, you started it.
#2074 [18:35] <Helloman892> Smanly: Please, no.
#2075 [18:35] <Smanly> :D
#2076 [18:35] <Elystus> Doesn't matter who started it.
#2077 [18:35] <Helloman892> I don't want an argument.
#2078 [18:35] <Helloman892> Elystus: True.
#2079 [18:36] <Smanly> I was kidding...
#2080 [18:36] <Helloman892> CONVERSATION. OVER.
#2081 [18:36] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2082 [18:36] <Helloman892> There.
#2083 [18:36] <Helloman892> ?? internet
#2084 [18:36] <Smanly> Its not over till I say its over!
#2085 [18:36] <Helloman892> What is this blasphemy!?
#2086 [18:36] <Elystus> ??>> Helloman892 index
#2087 [18:36] <Helloman892> No internet?
#2088 [18:36] <Helloman892> I know, Elystus.
#2089 [18:37] <Helloman892> ?? aubot
#2090 [18:37] <VoxelHead> aubot: Aubot is also a bot.
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#2092 [18:37] <Helloman892> You don't say, VoxelHead.
#2093 [18:37] <Helloman892> XD
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#2095 [18:38] <titansfan690> Hey everyone, I was wondering if somebody could help me with an offline name change script, every batch file I make fails miserably
#2096 [18:38] <Elystus> Can't do it without knowlage of programming
#2097 [18:38] <Helloman892> This is for Minecraft help only.
#2098 [18:38] <Elystus> ^
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#2100 [18:38] <Smanly> *Premuim Minecraft
#2101 [18:39] <Helloman892> Smanly: Shuddup.
#2102 [18:39] <Smanly> What
#2103 [18:39] <Helloman892> xD.
#2104 [18:39] <Elystus> Also, we cannot help you make a name changer script because it could be used in the case of cracked servers.
#2105 [18:39] <Smanly> It can only be used for that.
#2106 [18:39] <Helloman892> Indeed,
#2107 [18:39] <Helloman892> Very true.
#2108 [18:40] <Helloman892> ??< retro
#2109 [18:40] <Elystus> There are otehr uses, but they are purely aesthetic.
#2110 [18:40] <Elystus> other*
#2111 [18:40] <Smanly> Elystus: Example?
#2112 [18:40] <Helloman892> Yes.
#2113 [18:40] <Elystus> Some mods have parts where they display your name. Maybe you want a diffrent name to show.
#2114 [18:40] <Elystus> Thats all I've got.
#2115 [18:41] <Elystus> >_>
#2116 [18:41] <Helloman892> Elystus: You don't have to go out of your way to actually answer him.
#2117 [18:41] <titansfan690> Was hoping to test it using the lan feature in 1.3
#2118 [18:41] <Elystus> Helloman892: Got nothing else to do :/
#2119 [18:41] <Smanly> Elystus: You dont have to listen to Helloman892
#2120 [18:41] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2121 [18:42] <Elystus> Guys, can we not bash each other.
#2122 [18:42] <Smanly> Hey, he started it.
#2123 [18:42] <Smanly> XD
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#2125 [18:42] <phil_> hi
#2126 [18:42] <Smanly> Hola
#2127 [18:42] <Elystus> Hello
#2128 [18:43] <Helloman892> What's up, phil?
#2129 [18:43] <phil_> why can't i go into minecraft .. because its says pixel format not acclerated. Do i need to dowload something?
#2130 [18:43] <Helloman892> ??> phil error/pixel
#2131 [18:44] <Helloman892> ??> phil error/pixelformat
#2132 [18:44] <VoxelHead> phil: (error/pixelformat) Bad video card drivers! ... org.lwjgl.LWJGLException: Pixel format not accelerated
#2133 [18:44] <VoxelHead> phil: (error/pixelformat) This error message occurs when minecraft can't find graphics drivers with which it can render the game. Caused by improperly installed or missing video drivers. Installing or reinstalling your video drivers usually fixes this problem.
#2134 [18:44] <Elystus> ??> phil_ win/dxdiag
#2135 [18:44] <VoxelHead> phil_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2136 [18:44] <VoxelHead> phil_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2138 [18:44] <Helloman892> Oh, yeah. lol.
#2139 [18:45] <phil_> ugh do i need to download something
#2140 [18:45] <Helloman892> Yes. Most probably.
#2141 [18:45] <Elystus> phil_: You may need to downlaod new drivers
#2142 [18:46] <Smanly> You mean, you don't already have a copy of all nessesary drivers on you machine?
#2143 [18:47] <Elystus> Smanly: He may not have up to date ones, or the ones he has may be corrupted.
#2144 [18:48] <Helloman892> ^
#2145 [18:48] <Smanly> Oh come on twas only sarcasm
#2146 [18:48] <Helloman892> I know.
#2147 [18:49] <Smanly> I know you know but does Elystus know that you know that he doesnt know?
#2148 [18:49] <phil_> file:///C:/Users/Anyname/Desktop/DxDiag.txt
#2149 [18:49] <Helloman892> Incorrect.
#2150 [18:49] <phil_> fack you
#2151 [18:49] * Smanly facepalm
#2151 [18:49] <Helloman892> ??> phil_ pastebin
#2152 [18:49] <VoxelHead> phil_: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#2153 [18:50] <Elystus> ^
#2154 [18:50] <Smanly> >/Anyname/
#2155 [18:50] <Elystus> Smanly: You confuse me
#2156 [18:50] <Helloman892> ?? dxdiag
#2157 [18:50] <Smanly> Sorry
#2158 [18:50] <Helloman892> ?? win/dxdiag
#2159 [18:50] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2160 [18:50] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2161 [18:50] <Helloman892> Read ^ again...
#2162 [18:51] <Smanly> Basicly, if I say something rediculous, you can bet im not serious.
#2163 [18:51] <Helloman892> Ok, Smanly.
#2164 [18:51] <Smanly> Oh, Helloman892, do you have any sisters?
#2165 [18:51] <Helloman892> I do.
#2166 [18:51] <Helloman892> Why?
#2167 [18:52] <Elystus> .... please stay on task while someone is requesting help.
#2168 [18:52] <Smanly> Are any of them hot?
#2169 [18:52] <Smanly> Oh
#2170 [18:52] <Helloman892> No.
#2171 [18:52] * Smanly is now muted
#2171 [18:52] <Helloman892> She's 6 years old.
#2172 [18:52] <Helloman892> Lolwut?
#2173 [18:52] <Smanly> Too old, nvm
#2174 [18:52] <phil_> youre a little pervert smanly
#2175 [18:52] <Elystus> Yes he is...
#2176 [18:52] <Helloman892> phil_: Wanted help, I thought?
#2177 [18:52] <phil_> are you a rapist?
#2178 [18:52] * Smanly is only 10
#2178 [18:52] <Helloman892> ...
#2179 [18:53] * Helloman892 kicks Smanly
#2179 [18:53] * Helloman892 now realises that he doesn't have OP.
#2179 [18:53] <Elystus> Guys, really....
#2180 [18:53] <Helloman892> Elystus: Understood, Sir.
#2181 [18:53] <Elystus> Thank you. So Phil, made any progress on that pastebin?
#2182 [18:54] <phil_> no i can't paste it.
#2183 [18:54] <Helloman892> ...
#2184 [18:54] <Helloman892> Save it.
#2185 [18:54] <Helloman892> Open it.
#2186 [18:54] <Helloman892> CTRL-A it.
#2187 [18:54] <Helloman892> CTRL-C it.
#2188 [18:55] <Helloman892> www.pastebin.com
#2189 [18:55] <Helloman892> CTRL-V it.
#2190 [18:55] <Helloman892> Follow instructions.
#2191 [18:55] <Helloman892> Give link.
#2192 [18:55] <Helloman892> Do that.
#2193 [18:56] <Elystus> Helloman892: You seem to be really attracted to the enter button.
#2194 [18:57] <Rikairchy> www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShbP3OpASA&feature=youtu.be&hd=1&t=49m37s
#2195 [18:57] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#2196 [18:57] <Helloman892> That's true.
#2197 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> Wasn't there something that says the enter key shouldn't be used for punctuation?
#2198 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> ?? do/,
#2199 [18:58] <VoxelHead> do/,: The Enter key is not a comma. Please don't flood the channel with many many lines of just two or three words each. Learn how to use complete sentences, and commas.
#2200 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, that one :)
#2201 [18:58] <Helloman892> Lol, ok.
#2202 [18:58] <Helloman892> BUT.
#2203 [18:58] <Rikairchy> what what
#2204 [18:58] <Helloman892> I didn't, I put fullstops after every phrase.
#2205 [18:58] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: How's the coding coming along?
#2206 [18:58] <Rikairchy> DiskDaemon: you might like that link
#2207 [18:58] <Elystus> Havn't done anything today
#2208 [18:58] <Rikairchy> the youtube one
#2209 [18:58] <Elystus> Was just about to start.
#2210 [18:59] * Rikairchy gives Elystus a case of Mtn Dew
#2210 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> For added punctuation. Nice.
#2211 [18:59] * Helloman892 steals it.
#2211 [18:59] <Elystus> Sierra mist bro
#2212 [18:59] <Elystus> ;)
#2213 [18:59] <Helloman892> Yeah, DiskDaemon.
#2214 [18:59] * Rikairchy cuts off Helloman892's legs
#2214 [18:59] * Helloman892 uses his legs to beat down Rikairchy
#2214 [18:59] <Rikairchy> lets not get too off-topic.
#2215 [18:59] <Helloman892> Alright.
#2216 [19:00] <Helloman892> Keep in mind, however: I now have no legs.
#2217 [19:00] <Rikairchy> halp i r minecraft n00b
#2218 [19:00] <DiskDaemon> Rikairchy: Oh yeah - I saw that last month. A lot of black ink was spilled over that
#2219 [19:00] * Rikairchy part
#2219 [19:00] <Helloman892> What's the problem, Rikairchy?
#2220 [19:00] <Helloman892> :D
#2221 [19:00] * Rikairchy joins
#2221 [19:00] <Rikairchy> u sux
#2222 [19:00] * Rikairchy part
#2222 [19:00] <Helloman892> I do...? ;(
#2223 [19:01] <Helloman892> Ok, phil_, how's that pastebin going?
#2224 [19:02] <Helloman892> Ok, I'm assuming that this guy doesn't understand how to use PasteBin. GREAT.
#2225 [19:02] <Smanly> That guy can't be serious. Most definitly a troll.
#2226 [19:02] <Helloman892> Yeah.
#2227 [19:03] <Helloman892> DopeGhoti: Be a buddy and kick this troll called phil_? Nah, joking.
#2228 [19:03] <Helloman892> (;D)
#2229 [19:03] * alexoufc [alexoufc@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2230 [19:04] <alexoufc> how do i updat my minecraft
#2231 [19:04] <phil_> suck my dick
#2232 [19:04] <Helloman892> alexoufc:
#2233 [19:04] <Helloman892> Lol fail
#2234 [19:04] <phil_> fuck you
#2235 [19:04] * AuBot kicked phil_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hil_ :Please keep it civil.)
#2236 [19:04] <Smanly> lu
#2237 [19:04] <alexoufc> How do i updae my Minecraft?
#2238 [19:05] <Helloman892> alexoufc: Login to Minecraft through the launcher, it auto-updates.
#2239 [19:05] <Elystus> alexoufc: Is it freezing mid update?
#2240 [19:05] <alexoufc> kk thanks
#2241 [19:05] <Helloman892> The latest version is 1.2.5, by the way.
#2242 [19:05] <alexoufc> mine is 1.2 is says its up to date? :/
#2243 [19:06] <Helloman892> Can you send some screenshots of this?
#2244 [19:06] <alexoufc> no
#2245 [19:06] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2246 [19:06] <alexoufc> i dont know how
#2247 [19:06] <Helloman892> Don't worry.
#2248 [19:07] <Helloman892> Where does it say 1.2?
#2249 [19:07] <alexoufc> well basically i tried to play Hunger Games on a multiplayer server but it cut me off saying i ran out of memory or something!
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#2251 [19:08] <Helloman892> ??> alexoufc error
#2252 [19:08] <VoxelHead> alexoufc: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2253 [19:08] <VoxelHead> alexoufc: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#2254 [19:08] <Helloman892> Fail.
#2255 [19:08] <Helloman892> Ignore that
#2256 [19:08] <Helloman892> ?? oldversion
#2257 [19:08] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
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#2259 [19:08] <Helloman892> Damn it!
#2260 [19:08] <alexoufc> hi
#2261 [19:08] <NinjaKirby> lol Helloman, good lawdie
#2262 [19:09] <Helloman892> I fail at this stuff.
#2263 [19:09] <Helloman892> Out of memory? What happened as you disconnected.
#2264 [19:09] <Helloman892> ?
#2265 [19:09] <NinjaKirby> I wouldn't fair any better, tbh
#2266 [19:09] <Helloman892> ?? win/client/moreram
#2267 [19:09] <VoxelHead> win/client/moreram: If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#2268 [19:10] <VoxelHead> win/client/moreram: Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#2269 [19:10] <Helloman892> You might want to do ^
#2270 [19:10] * JonahVanDoren [JonahVanDoren@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2271 [19:10] <JonahVanDoren> I need help.
#2272 [19:10] <Elystus> I need sode
#2273 [19:10] <Helloman892> That is, if you get OOM messages alot.
#2274 [19:10] <Elystus> soda*
#2275 [19:10] <JonahVanDoren> can someone help me?
#2276 [19:10] <Helloman892> What's up, JonahVanDoren?
#2277 [19:10] <Elystus> JonahVanDoren: What is your problem, we can't help if you don't tell us what it is.
#2278 [19:10] <JonahVanDoren> well let me type it hold on
#2279 [19:10] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2280 [19:11] <Helloman892> ??< version
#2281 [19:11] <JonahVanDoren> Ok so i got minecraft and i got it ofline and when i run it (for the first time) it says "can not connect to minecraft.net"
#2282 [19:11] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2283 [19:12] <JonahVanDoren> and its been like that for over 24 hrs
#2284 [19:12] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2285 [19:12] <JonahVanDoren> so what do i do?
#2286 [19:12] <Helloman892> You got it 'offline'? I don't believe that is possible.
#2287 [19:12] <Elystus> were yuo able to play online for a while?
#2288 [19:12] <JonahVanDoren> no i got it off of the internet
#2289 [19:12] <JonahVanDoren> sorry
#2290 [19:12] <Helloman892> Oh, right.
#2291 [19:12] <Elystus> Oh!
#2292 [19:12] <JonahVanDoren> hahaha
#2293 [19:12] <Helloman892> So, you have minecraft.exe.
#2294 [19:12] <JonahVanDoren> yeah
#2295 [19:12] <JonahVanDoren> and i run it
#2296 [19:12] <Elystus> JonahVanDoren: Is there anything odd about the launcher?
#2297 [19:13] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2298 [19:13] <JonahVanDoren> yeah there is
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#2300 [19:13] <Elystus> Are there grey parts or black parts?
#2301 [19:13] <Elystus> What is odd about it?
#2302 [19:13] <JonahVanDoren> it wont load the news or anything
#2303 [19:13] <Elystus> Java!
#2304 [19:13] <JonahVanDoren> java?
#2305 [19:13] <Elystus> yes, java 7 is trying to use ipv6
#2306 [19:13] <JonahVanDoren> i have no clue what that means
#2307 [19:13] <Helloman892> ??> JonahVanDoren win/java
#2308 [19:13] <Elystus> JonahVanDoren: Make a shortcut for minecraft
#2309 [19:13] <Helloman892> Damn it! Lol.
#2310 [19:13] <JonahVanDoren> ok done.
#2311 [19:14] <Elystus> right click the shortcut and click properties
#2312 [19:14] <JonahVanDoren> k
#2313 [19:14] <Elystus> put this in the target area: "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#2314 [19:14] <JonahVanDoren> guys i gottta g help with something ill brb
#2315 [19:14] <JonahVanDoren> AFK
#2316 [19:14] <Elystus> Okay :)
#2317 [19:17] <Helloman892> JonahVanDoren: IPv6 stands for 'internet protocol, version (or revision) 6'. It was brought up to combat the arising problem of IPv4 addresses running out. An IPv6 address is like so: '2620:9b::5c4:3bac', while an IPv4 address is like this: '5.196.59.172'.
#2318 [19:17] <Helloman892> (By-the-way, those are my Hamachi addresses :P)
#2319 [19:17] <Elystus> That is a very good explanation of it Helloman892. Also, sneaky advertising ;)
#2320 [19:17] <Helloman892> XD
#2321 [19:18] <Helloman892> Thanks.
#2322 [19:18] <DiskDaemon> ?? fubar/hamachi
#2323 [19:18] * DiskDaemon taps foot
#2323 [19:18] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#2324 [19:18] <VoxelHead> fubar/hamachi: If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#2325 [19:18] <Helloman892> Lol.
#2326 [19:18] <Elystus> Yea, we are not huge fans of Hamachi here.
#2327 [19:18] <Helloman892> I was using them as an example, DiskDaemon XD
#2328 [19:19] <Helloman892> And don't make me go into the bits and such.
#2329 [19:19] <Helloman892> Anyways, time to hit the sack. See y'all.
#2330 [19:19] <JonahVanDoren> OK IM BACK but only for a min
#2331 [19:19] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I have the memory code working almost flawlessly. I am going to go rework the java one and go back to the memory one with fresh eyes.
#2332 [19:19] <JonahVanDoren> what is the target area?
#2333 [19:19] <Elystus> Helloman892: Night
#2334 [19:19] <Helloman892> Ask Elystus.
#2335 [19:19] <Elystus> JonahVanDoren: Do you have the shortcut properties open?
#2336 [19:19] <DiskDaemon> indeed - I was looking to refresh myself over the issues with them
#2337 [19:19] <JonahVanDoren> Elystus whats the target area Yes i do
#2338 [19:20] <Elystus> might as well make a quick picture
#2339 [19:20] <JonahVanDoren> ?
#2340 [19:21] <JonahVanDoren> Elystus i have properties opened now what?
#2341 [19:21] <Elystus> http://imgur.com/u7MF4
#2342 [19:21] <Elystus> the arrow is pointing at the target area
#2343 [19:21] <Elystus> put this in the target area: "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#2344 [19:21] <JonahVanDoren> thats not what my properties window looks like....
#2345 [19:22] <Elystus> Are you sure you are on the shortcut properties?
#2346 [19:22] <JonahVanDoren> its probably because i havent installed minecraft
#2347 [19:22] <JonahVanDoren> yes!
#2348 [19:22] <JonahVanDoren> im on the minecraft.exe shortcut
#2349 [19:22] <JonahVanDoren> like ive downloaded it, but it isnt installed
#2350 [19:22] <Elystus> check to make sure you are in the shortcut tab.
#2351 [19:22] <JonahVanDoren> k
#2352 [19:23] <Elystus> is it there?
#2353 [19:24] <JonahVanDoren> yes ok ive copied and pasted it into there now what?
#2354 [19:24] <Elystus> click apply and start the shortcut.
#2355 [19:24] <JonahVanDoren> k
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#2357 [19:25] <JonahVanDoren> the exact same thing happened as before without the shortcut
#2358 [19:25] <JonahVanDoren> :/
#2359 [19:25] <Elystus> paste what you put for the target here
#2360 [19:25] <JonahVanDoren> "%ProgramFiles%\Java\jre7\bin\java" -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe
#2361 [19:26] <JonahVanDoren> i dont have a minecraf.jar yet... could that be why?
#2362 [19:26] <Elystus> No
#2363 [19:26] <JonahVanDoren> oh
#2364 [19:26] <JonahVanDoren> brb
#2365 [19:26] <JonahVanDoren> AFK
#2366 [19:26] <Elystus> Do you mind if we use teamviewer?
#2367 [19:27] <JonahVanDoren> Im back and whats teamviewer?
#2368 [19:28] <Elystus> ??>> JonahVanDoren TEAMVIEWER
#2369 [19:28] <JonahVanDoren> that doesnt seem safe
#2370 [19:28] <JonahVanDoren> is it?
#2371 [19:28] <JonahVanDoren> should i download it?
#2372 [19:28] <Elystus> it is safe, you control what is going on.
#2373 [19:28] <JonahVanDoren> k so download it?
#2374 [19:29] <Elystus> yes :)
#2375 [19:29] <JonahVanDoren> k
#2376 [19:29] <slowfi> it says to change your skin visit the preferences page at www.minecraft.net, but I can't find a link to preferences at that url
#2377 [19:30] <Elystus> its on the profile page
#2378 [19:30] <slowfi> ok
#2379 [19:31] <JonahVanDoren> ok teamviewer is installed
#2380 [19:31] <slowfi> it suggests to download the reference skin. I guess that's normal steve
#2381 [19:31] <Elystus> okay, start it and msg me the details
#2382 [19:32] <JonahVanDoren> like my id?
#2383 [19:32] <Elystus> yes
#2384 [19:32] <JonahVanDoren> 816 123 179
#2385 [19:32] <Elystus> don't post it here
#2386 [19:32] <JonahVanDoren> oh piss
#2387 [19:32] <Elystus> use /msg Elystus
#2388 [19:32] <JonahVanDoren> lol
#2389 [19:32] <slowfi> it's just a png, as I suspected
#2390 [19:32] <Elystus> jsut don't put the password.
#2391 [19:32] <JonahVanDoren> lol
#2392 [19:32] <JonahVanDoren> i have to put the password?
#2393 [19:33] <Elystus> yea, pm me the passwor
#2394 [19:33] <Elystus> d
#2395 [19:34] <JonahVanDoren> ok so whats going on? can you see my screen or something?
#2396 [19:34] <Elystus> yes I can
#2397 [19:34] <JonahVanDoren> you can?
#2398 [19:34] <Elystus> yep
#2399 [19:34] <JonahVanDoren> hahaha nice
#2400 [19:34] <JonahVanDoren> holy piss
#2401 [19:34] <JonahVanDoren> you're moving my mouse
#2402 [19:34] <JonahVanDoren> thats hot
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#2405 [19:45] <LunarDoom> if i have Forge and theres a mod that requires no .jar insertion then will it work on my server if i put it in the server /mods folder?
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#2407 [19:46] <LunarDoom> ??
#2408 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> I'm sorry, we don't support server mods here, but you can get help with forge from #minecraftforge
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#2410 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> What was difficult to understand about what I said?
#2411 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> What was difficult to understand about what I said?
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#2414 [19:49] <marckzero> i have a problen on my minecraft i get in a black screen after updating it eve if i dont update it i get the black screen someone help pls
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#2416 [19:50] <TylerMcAwesome> hey am back and have a question
#2417 [19:50] <marckzero> can someone help me
#2418 [19:51] <marckzero> i get a black screen when i try to play minecraft even in the website
#2419 [19:51] <marckzero> help meeee
#2420 [19:52] <marckzero> someone
#2421 [19:52] <TylerMcAwesome> i was coming online earlier and it said testing 1.3 release so i said ok it won't let me on so i left came back said the same thing but people were online and it won't let me go onto the server
#2422 [19:52] * Elystus pokes DiskDaemon
#2422 [19:53] <marckzero> hey someone
#2423 [19:53] <TylerMcAwesome> ikr where are they?
#2424 [19:53] <Elystus> Ahh, give me a moment, helping someone else over team viewer
#2425 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: See my work at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mods/The_Aether/Projects
#2426 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: are you ready for testing? :)
#2427 [19:53] <TylerMcAwesome> ok
#2428 [19:54] <Elystus> No, but Can you deal with these guys. I am on teamviewer right now
#2429 [19:54] <TylerMcAwesome> i don't know what to do
#2430 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> yes indeed
#2431 [19:55] <TylerMcAwesome> ok will you help me
#2432 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> TylerMcAwesome: You'll have to either get instructions from the server about how to join in with their test, or move on to a server that's compatible with your client
#2433 [19:55] <TylerMcAwesome> ooooooooooh ok
#2434 [19:56] <TylerMcAwesome> thanks i'll tell my friends you are really helpful
#2435 [19:56] <TylerMcAwesome> thanks i'll tell my friends you are really helpful
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#2438 [20:03] <JonahVanDoren> hey elystus
#2439 [20:03] <Elystus> hey :D
#2440 [20:03] <JonahVanDoren> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2441 [20:03] <Elystus> it worked?
#2442 [20:03] <Elystus> ?
#2443 [20:03] <JonahVanDoren> ?
#2444 [20:04] <JonahVanDoren> whast going on with teamview?
#2445 [20:04] <Elystus> Okay, can you start team veiwer?
#2446 [20:04] <JonahVanDoren> mhmm
#2447 [20:04] <Elystus> viewer*
#2448 [20:04] <JonahVanDoren> ohhh i have a new passwoord
#2449 [20:04] <Elystus> pm the password please :D
#2450 [20:07] <Elystus> heh, so macafee tries to force java to use java ipv6 or something in its protocals
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#2452 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: It does? Have we tested that and confirmed that it's true?
#2453 [20:12] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Right now it is just a hunch... his macafee trial was over, yet it still had control of the firewall.
#2454 [20:12] <Elystus> Should have mentioned that.
#2455 [20:12] <Elystus> Maybe it messes with protocals when it runs out.
#2456 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> It seems to be confirmed to be Java 7 preferring IPv6 - https://community.mcafee.com/thread/40092
#2457 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> Let's stop with the guesses - and work with actual information :)
#2458 [20:14] <Elystus> heh...
#2459 [20:14] <Elystus> intresting.
#2460 [20:15] <Elystus> Back to making the java application.
#2461 [20:15] <Elystus> I wanted to take a break from the memory one.
#2462 [20:16] <JonahVanDoren> you make java applications?????
#2463 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> Right now I'm editing a page about rubbing your swetty balls on the dirt. Truely
#2464 [20:16] <Elystus> C++
#2465 [20:16] <Elystus> I want to learn Java next
#2466 [20:16] <JonahVanDoren> ?
#2467 [20:16] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: What?!?!
#2468 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> From the 1.04 release of the Aether "Swets now drop Swetty Balls. Swetty Balls can be right clicked onto Aether Dirt to grow it into Aether Grass."
#2469 [20:17] <Elystus> lol
#2470 [20:17] <Elystus> When is that mod going to be released?
#2471 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> As you can see, one of the developers has a sense of humour
#2472 [20:18] <Elystus> yea lol
#2473 [20:18] <DiskDaemon> The 1.9 pre-release 2 is out now. See facebook.com/aethermod for updates :)
#2474 [20:18] <Elystus> I may have to check it out later.
#2475 [20:21] <NinjaKirby> inafter the Function name for Swetty Balls java code is "big boobs"
#2476 [20:22] <Elystus> lol
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#2478 [20:30] <NinjaKirby> Anyone here been trying Win8? What's the general word; disaster or success?
#2479 [20:30] <Elystus> disaster in my opinion.
#2480 [20:31] <NinjaKirby> Given how I understand it to be oriented, I am unlikely to upgrade. In fact it doesn't even seem like upgrade, it seems like "start over with the wrong environment"
#2481 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> It's good for me, server works 'n all
#2482 [20:31] <DiskDaemon> In terms of the OS itself though, I'm remaining in the desktop area and ignoring the othe metro stuff
#2483 [20:32] <NinjaKirby> Ah, well, enlightening
#2484 [20:34] * NinjaKirby hits the sack
#2484 [20:34] <DopeGhoti> Windows 8: No More Windows edition?
#2485 [20:35] <Rikairchy> exactly
#2486 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> aka the Tablet OS shoehorned into desktops?
#2487 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> Unmitigated disaster.
#2488 [20:35] <Rikairchy> desktop support was just a late feature
#2489 [20:35] <DopeGhoti> So many terrible design decisions rolled into that fetid mess
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#2491 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> I can see how it might work on a tablet, but it has no place whatsoever on a KB/Mouse-driven computer. None.
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#2493 [20:36] <Jackson413> any idear is mcedit is still around?
#2494 [20:36] <DopeGhoti> ?find Jackson413 mcedit
#2495 [20:36] <VoxelHead> Jackson413, http://is.gd/PkSUwq
#2496 [20:37] <Elystus> My favororite song just came on <3
#2497 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: Sweet Dreams by the Eurythmics?
#2498 [20:37] <Elystus> Nope
#2499 [20:37] <Elystus> The Veldt
#2500 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> from FFVI?
#2501 [20:37] <Elystus> deadmau5
#2502 [20:37] <DopeGhoti> ah
#2503 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: This is getting stranger and stranger. My latest bug report: "Gold swets give you blue swetty balls. Shouldn't gold swets give you golden swetty balls instead?"
#2504 [20:41] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, already googled. I mean, reforming my initial question, the author has taken an "indefinite break" and put someone in charge of maintaining it. I was wondering if anyone has used it since and could say if it is indeed both still usable and stable.
#2505 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit has commits as recently as three months ago
#2506 [20:43] <DopeGhoti> I'd start there.
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#2508 [20:46] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, I'm kind of a github nub. A commit is a change to the code?
#2509 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> correct.
#2510 [20:47] <DiskDaemon> No, a commit is putting yout change in your staging area.
#2511 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: no, that's 'add'
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#2513 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> 'commit' actually commits the change
#2514 [20:47] <DopeGhoti> which is why it's called 'commit'.
#2515 [20:48] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, so technically that means that the project is abandoned?
#2516 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> 'push' sends your commits to the upstream repository (in this case, github)
#2517 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> The softwar I use uses Push to send the staging area changes up to the repository
#2518 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: if you consider no code changes in three months abandoned, then yes.
#2519 [20:48] <jim> anyonw have trouble downloding minecraft because of it being damaged fine error message?
#2520 [20:48] <DopeGhoti> since Minecraft has not changed a lot architecturally in that timeframe, I'd quantify it as 'still active'
#2521 [20:49] <Jackson413> Oh ok.
#2522 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> ??> jim mac/gatekeeper
#2523 [20:49] <VoxelHead> jim: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2524 [20:49] <DopeGhoti> DiskDaemon: your git client uses odd nomenclature.
#2525 [20:50] <Rikairchy> iirc
#2526 [20:50] <jim> thank you so much
#2527 [20:50] <Rikairchy> git is an insult in the UK
#2528 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: it can be.
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#2530 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> as can goit and gomboid. And smeghead.
#2531 [20:50] <DopeGhoti> jim: cheers
#2532 [20:50] <Jackson413> what's a git in the UK?
#2533 [20:51] <Rikairchy> idk
#2534 [20:51] <Rikairchy> something offensive
#2535 [20:51] <DopeGhoti> '(syn) rotter: a person who is deemed to be despicable or contemptible'
#2536 [20:52] <Guest2546> hey i followed a turatal on how to download and set up the free minecraft server off of minecraft.net and when i had finished it wouldnt let me go on the server
#2537 [20:52] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, if you are on vanilla minecraft, server is running yesterday, now getting connection reset messages and being unable to join after a server restart, what are the steps to begin troubleshooting the error?
#2538 [20:52] <DopeGhoti> Guest2546: and what happens when you try?
#2539 [20:52] <Jackson413> was**
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#2541 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: The first thing I would test is to ensure that the port is open, and the port forwarding, if any, is still set properly
#2542 [20:53] <Guest2546> it says somthing like cant register host name or somthing
#2543 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest2546 error
#2544 [20:53] <VoxelHead> Guest2546: (error) It's not helpful to just say "Some error" or "Some message". We need to know exactly what error(s) you are getting in order to tell you what it means.
#2545 [20:53] <hig> whats the recommended amount of active mods on single play at once?
#2546 [20:53] <VoxelHead> Guest2546: (error) If the error is more than one or two lines, please use PasteBin (http://www.pastebin.com) so as not to flood the channel.
#2547 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> hig: Zero
#2548 [20:53] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, all is in order there. I'm hosting with someone.
#2549 [20:53] <hig> you can still get mods on 1.2.5 right?
#2550 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> Jackson413: what is the hostname and port?
#2551 [20:53] <DopeGhoti> hig: if you are so inclined.
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#2553 [20:54] <Jackson413> pvp.manlyminecraft.net:25565
#2554 [20:55] <Jackson413> !check pvp.manlyminecraft.net
#2555 [20:55] <Jackson413> oh its down atm hold on
#2556 [20:55] <DopeGhoti> well, that might be part of your problem.
#2557 [20:55] <Jackson413> No, I was backing up the world
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#2559 [20:56] <Guest56515> when i try to dowload the minecraft server on minecraft.net it wont download it says 5% dowloaded and just stays like that for a long time and doesnt download
#2560 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> Guest56515: which browser are you using?
#2561 [20:56] <Jackson413> !check pvp.manlyminecraft.net
#2562 [20:56] <Guest56515> internet explorer
#2563 [20:56] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest56515 win/ie
#2564 [20:56] <VoxelHead> Guest56515: (win/ie) Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#2565 [20:57] <VoxelHead> Guest56515: (win/ie) Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#2566 [20:57] <Guest56515> ok thanks ill try google chrome
#2567 [20:58] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, AuBot says it doesn't seem like a minecraft server
#2568 [20:58] <DopeGhoti> that means that whatever is listening on that port is not conformant to the Minecraft protocol
#2569 [20:58] <Jackson413> It's been like that for a while
#2570 [20:59] <DopeGhoti> Any mods?
#2571 [20:59] <Jackson413> craftbukkit and plugins
#2572 [20:59] <Jackson413> running in vanilla mode to try to alieviate issues before I can isolate the problem
#2573 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> An excellent start
#2574 [21:00] <DopeGhoti> LMK when your vanilla server is up
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#2576 [21:02] <Jackson413> LMK?
#2577 [21:03] <Jackson413> DopeGhoti, LMK?
#2578 [21:07] * AmazinGHo [AmazinGHo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2579 [21:07] <AmazinGHo> my minecraft bug
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#2581 [21:07] <Jackson413> AmzinGHo, ?
#2582 [21:09] <AmazinGHo> I am abmin but my minecreft BUG
#2583 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> Care to be at all more specific?
#2584 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> otherwise all we can say is, "your minecraft FIX".
#2585 [21:11] <AmazinGHo> use all res is Compass
#2586 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> Cable post is wire, the screwdriver?
#2587 [21:12] <AmazinGHo> re ser not work
#2588 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> Please try to form your question in the form of a question.
#2589 [21:14] <AmazinGHo> My Account BUG can you in to see?
#2590 [21:14] <TheNoodle> lol
#2591 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> Sorry, I don't speak fluent Pidgin.
#2592 [21:15] <AmazinGHo> With any items are compass
#2593 [21:15] * skullkill17 [skullkill17@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2594 [21:15] <skullkill17> hello
#2595 [21:16] <skullkill17> hello?
#2596 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> Я не могу понять чего вы говорите. | Eu não posso compreender o que você está dizendo.
#2597 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> skullkill17: salutations.
#2598 [21:16] <skullkill17> hi
#2599 [21:17] <skullkill17> myminecraft wont download on my second computer
#2600 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> What happens when you try?
#2601 [21:17] <Rikairchy> inb4itdoesntwork
#2602 [21:17] <Rikairchy> oh nvm
#2603 [21:17] <Rikairchy> it worked :D
#2604 [21:17] <skullkill17> it freezes when itt says like 50 downloaded
#2605 [21:17] <Rikairchy> im scared
#2606 [21:17] <skullkill17> 50% downloaded
#2607 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> how are you attempting to download it?
#2608 [21:18] <skullkill17> by loging in
#2609 [21:18] <skullkill17> like downloading the packages
#2610 [21:18] <DopeGhoti> ?? specs
#2611 [21:18] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#2612 [21:19] <skullkill17> idk not mine but i usally visit
#2613 [21:19] <skullkill17> its a dell desktop
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#2615 [21:19] <nick> hey
#2616 [21:19] <skullkill17> any soulutions?
#2617 [21:20] <skullkill17> ANY?
#2618 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> not without more details.
#2619 [21:20] <DopeGhoti> ??> skullkill17 win/profile
#2620 [21:20] <VoxelHead> skullkill17: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2621 [21:21] <VoxelHead> skullkill17: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2622 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> Guest13682: hello.
#2623 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> How's the weather in New Zealand today?
#2624 [21:21] <skullkill17> no i tried that
#2625 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> skullkill17: you tried creating a new user on the computer?
#2626 [21:21] <skullkill17> ya
#2627 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> ??> skullkill17 win/reinst
#2628 [21:21] <VoxelHead> skullkill17: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2629 [21:21] <skullkill17> i was HOPELESS
#2630 [21:21] <VoxelHead> skullkill17: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2631 [21:22] <Guest13682> i was trying to download a minecraft exe server with internet explorer and then i tryed on google chrome and on google chrome it says that there is an unknowen network problem and then on the internet explorer it says 5% downloaded and then it stays like that and wont download
#2632 [21:22] <skullkill17> there are no SAVES
#2633 [21:22] <skullkill17> i didnt getto play it
#2634 [21:22] <skullkill17> im trying to download it
#2635 [21:23] <skullkill17> so i can theres only bin and lastlogin
#2636 [21:23] <DopeGhoti> Guest13682: It sounds like there may actually be a network issue, then.
#2637 [21:24] <Guest13682> yea cause im trying to find like a server that i can do a minecraft series on with my friend and i cant download it and non of my friends hav a server i can use
#2638 [21:24] <skullkill17> anythingelse?
#2639 [21:24] <skullkill17> anythingelse?\
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#2643 [21:25] <skullkill17> HELP ME!!!
#2644 [21:26] <Wug> skullkill17: do you have a ! in your username
#2645 [21:26] <Wug> (your windows username)
#2646 [21:26] <skullkill17> no
#2647 [21:26] <skullkill17> only letters
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#2649 [21:27] <SKUX> hello
#2650 [21:27] <Wug> when you say it doesnt download
#2651 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> skullkill17: Does the lower part of the launcher have a dirt of black background, and is there any strange text at the top of the launcher window?
#2652 [21:27] <Wug> how far does it get
#2653 [21:28] <skullkill17> no farthest it went was 100 but went all black but there was dirt while downloading
#2654 [21:30] <skullkill17> brb
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#2656 [21:33] <trollface10101> Can you test my server with a bot?
#2657 [21:34] <DiskDaemon> trollface10101: Sure, using the !check command
#2658 [21:34] <trollface10101> can i do it?
#2659 [21:35] <trollface10101> Or could you
#2660 [21:35] <trollface10101> ?
#2661 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Sure
#2662 [21:35] <trollface10101> ME or YOU?
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#2664 [21:35] <Elystus> Classic Disk
#2665 [21:36] <Elystus> !check trollface10101
#2666 [21:36] <Elystus> whats the ip
#2667 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> trollface10101: Please, be our guest.
#2668 [21:36] <Elystus> ^
#2669 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> !check
#2670 [21:36] <trollface10101> 100.43.117.161
#2671 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> Without an IP it checks your name, so an IP is needed for you to check your server.
#2672 [21:37] <Elystus> !check 100.43.117.161
#2673 [21:38] <trollface10101> help how do my friends connet now?
#2674 [21:38] <trollface10101> Connect*
#2675 [21:39] <trollface10101> ?
#2676 [21:39] <Elystus> make sure you portforwarded correctly.
#2677 [21:40] <trollface10101> i used my ipv4 address
#2678 [21:40] <trollface10101> its all right
#2679 [21:41] <trollface10101> i think
#2680 [21:41] <Elystus> did your local ipv4 address change?
#2681 [21:41] <DiskDaemon> What are the external and internal ip addresses that you are using?
#2682 [21:41] <trollface10101> yes but i changed it to that, is that correct
#2683 [21:41] <Elystus> If I remember correctly, it worked in the past.
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#2685 [21:41] <trollface10101> Yes it did
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#2687 [21:42] <trollface10101> I've played on it with my friends many times before
#2688 [21:42] <Elystus> trollface10101: check to see if your local ipv4 address changed. You might have to change the port forwarding settings to accomidate the new ipv4 address.
#2689 [21:43] <trollface10101> One thing that should probly be noted is that my internet went out before we tried to connect but it was back up when he tried to connect
#2690 [21:45] <trollface10101> no its the same as on the port
#2691 [21:45] <Elystus> yes, that would probably mean the ipv4 address changed.
#2692 [21:45] <Elystus> the one from command prompt?
#2693 [21:45] <trollface10101> i changed it to accomidate though
#2694 [21:46] <Elystus> save the changes and restart the server then
#2695 [21:48] <trollface10101> I tried both server versions and now only jar works
#2696 [21:48] <trollface10101> as before
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#2698 [21:49] <Jackson413> hey jackripper775
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#2700 [21:49] <trollface10101> You can try it
#2701 [21:50] <trollface10101> it may work
#2702 [21:50] <Elystus> !check 100.43.117.161
#2703 [21:50] <Jackson413> >jackripper775<
#2704 [21:50] <crazyzach3> im getting error 4 cannot connect how can i fix it?
#2705 [21:50] <trollface10101> FINALLY
#2706 [21:50] <haha7isaboss> When I run minecraft (I just freshly downloaded it), my game screen goes black. Before this fresh download i had mods, but for some reason my game wont work with a force update or simple log in. My game only downloads the bin folder/contents, and nothing else
#2707 [21:50] <Jackson413> oh derp wrong chan
#2708 [21:51] <Elystus> haha7isaboss: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2709 [21:51] <Elystus> follow the directions thewre and www.pastebin.com the results
#2710 [21:52] <crazyzach3> Ely when i run minecraft and sign in it asks me to update when i press yes it says "Failed to Launch Fatal Error ocurred (4): Permission denied: connect
#2711 [21:52] <haha7isaboss> http://pastebin.com/XNjMjNM2
#2712 [21:53] <trollface10101> Could you try the world againn please to check if the world file is ok, because i changed it?
#2713 [21:53] <Elystus> !check 100.43.117.161
#2714 [21:53] <trollface10101> derp i didnt start it up
#2715 [21:54] <Elystus> guys, I have to leave right now. I will just fire off a few suggestions
#2716 [21:54] <trollface10101> !check 100.43.117.161
#2717 [21:54] <Elystus> haha7isaboss: Reinstall your video card drivers.
#2718 [21:55] <haha7isaboss> I'm not sure what that is...
#2719 [21:55] <Elystus> crazyzach3: Sounds liek a problem with your antivirus or firewall.
#2720 [21:55] <Elystus> like*
#2721 [21:55] * Elystus leaves
#2721 [21:55] <crazyzach3> ive tried disabling it and it still wont work
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#2724 [21:56] <Dragonkkealk> hi
#2725 [21:57] <Dragonkkealk> I need to re-install my minecraft game, I delete my .minecraft folder, but it won't download all the way, any suggestions?
#2726 [21:57] <haha7isaboss> Uh... any ohter suggestions besides re-installing video card drivers??
#2727 [21:57] <Dragonkkealk> what do you need help with haha?
#2728 [21:58] <Dragonkkealk> @haha7isaboss what's wrong?
#2729 [21:58] <haha7isaboss> When I run minecraft (I just freshly downloaded it), my game screen goes black. Before this fresh download i had mods, but for some reason my game wont work with a force update or simple log in. My game only downloads the bin folder/contents, and nothing else
#2730 [21:59] <haha7isaboss> http://pastebin.com/XNjMjNM2 this is from magiclauncher
#2731 [21:59] <Dragonkkealk> I'm having the same problem
#2732 [21:59] <haha7isaboss> OMG same problem as dragonkkealk!
#2733 [21:59] <Dragonkkealk> I'm trying to make a texture pack
#2734 [22:00] <haha7isaboss> Mmmm.... not exactly what I'm doing, but the gist of our problem is the same
#2735 [22:00] <Dragonkkealk> but i don't think it'll work with mods like mini-map, speed mod, and TMI
#2736 [22:00] <crazyzach3> does anyone know how to fix error "Failed to Launch Fatal Error ocurred (4): Permission denied: connect"?
#2737 [22:00] <haha7isaboss> I've re installed and re downloaded minecraft multiple times and, dragon, i got the same issue as you: it wont download all the way
#2738 [22:00] <Dragonkkealk> Crazyzach3, did you try to re-install minecraft?
#2739 [22:00] <crazyzach3> yeah
#2740 [22:01] <Dragonkkealk> this is a brand new computer, so it's not the video cards
#2741 [22:01] <lemon-rev> haha7isaboss turn off our antivius if you know how
#2742 [22:01] <Dragonkkealk> that won't matter will it?
#2743 [22:01] <haha7isaboss> nope dont know how. This could throw you off track, but I'm on a mac
#2744 [22:01] <Dragonkkealk> what anti-virus system do you have?
#2745 [22:01] <crazyzach3> Norton
#2746 [22:01] <lemon-rev> haha7isaboss what antivirus are you running if any
#2747 [22:02] <haha7isaboss> oh yeah and also I have a fairly new computer. almost 5 months old
#2748 [22:02] <haha7isaboss> um not sure
#2749 [22:02] <haha7isaboss> macs cant get viruses :D
#2750 [22:02] <Dragonkkealk> they can
#2751 [22:02] <Dragonkkealk> they just can't get as much viruses as comps
#2752 [22:03] <haha7isaboss> well my mac really doesnt have an antivirus, or at least i havent see none
#2753 [22:03] <lemon-rev> haha7isaboss check google and find av / firewall and try to disable it before trying to redownoad mc again
#2754 [22:03] <Dragonkkealk> would AVG interfear with downloads?
#2755 [22:03] <haha7isaboss> seen one
#2756 [22:03] <haha7isaboss> k
#2757 [22:05] <haha7isaboss> there is absolutely no anti virus program for mac
#2758 [22:05] <lemon-rev> haha7isaboss look, use google and see if theres ways to turn off or allow for minecraft access to the files it needs to download
#2759 [22:05] <lemon-rev> ie router or firewall
#2760 [22:06] <haha7isaboss> ok sorry i didnt understand you fully before
#2761 [22:07] <haha7isaboss> its built in, but i cant access it. anyway, its already off
#2762 [22:08] <lemon-rev> haha7isaboss are you running though a router
#2763 [22:08] <haha7isaboss> ummm my wifi is at&t, 2WIRE, so yeah, i guess? I really dont know computer technology
#2764 [22:08] <haha7isaboss> I
#2765 [22:09] <haha7isaboss> I'm a music man
#2766 [22:09] <lemon-rev> haha7isaboss not what im asking, do you run from a say a box that connects to your pc ?
#2767 [22:09] <lemon-rev> so wifi ?
#2768 [22:09] <haha7isaboss> yes
#2769 [22:09] <lemon-rev> desktop or laptop ?
#2770 [22:09] <haha7isaboss> yes its wifi
#2771 [22:09] <haha7isaboss> sorry
#2772 [22:10] <haha7isaboss> and its a laptop
#2773 [22:10] <lemon-rev> ok, i just want you to test something atm, can you goto minecraft.net login / and see if you can play in broswer < on the homepage the game in broswer
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#2775 [22:12] <haha7isaboss> uh when i do its says plugin not isntalled
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#2777 [22:12] <haha7isaboss> inactive plugin sorry
#2778 [22:13] <lemon-rev> does it tell you what plug in ?
#2779 [22:13] <lemon-rev> its most likely java <
#2780 [22:14] <haha7isaboss> i think so
#2781 [22:14] <lemon-rev> http://java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.xml
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#2783 [22:15] <Dragonkkealk> Can someone help me?
#2784 [22:16] <Dragonkkealk> I am currently trying to make a Texture pack, but I cannot re-download minecraft because it won't download all the way
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#2786 [22:16] <lemon-rev> Dragonkkealk have you disabled antivirus and firewall
#2787 [22:16] <lemon-rev> Dragonkkealk ok, i just want you to test something atm, can you goto minecraft.net login / and see if you can play in broswer < on the homepage the game in broswer
#2788 [22:17] <Dragonkkealk> That wouldn't interfere with it would you?
#2789 [22:17] <Dragonkkealk> would it*
#2790 [22:17] <Dragonkkealk> and ok i'll try
#2791 [22:17] <lemon-rev> please
#2792 [22:17] <haha7isaboss> ok it is installed but i cant play
#2793 [22:17] <haha7isaboss> in browser or normal
#2794 [22:18] <lemon-rev> haha7isaboss what is installed mc ? or java ?
#2795 [22:18] <Dragonkkealk> i'm trying in browser right now
#2796 [22:18] <haha7isaboss> i am on chrome if it helps
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#2798 [22:18] <haha7isaboss> java
#2799 [22:18] <lemon-rev> nope,
#2800 [22:18] <haha7isaboss> mc was installed before by the way, but it didnt install all the way
#2801 [22:18] <lemon-rev> ok, so you installed java. whats the error your still getting haah
#2802 [22:18] <Dragonkkealk> holy crap
#2803 [22:18] <Dragonkkealk> it installed in the browser
#2804 [22:19] <Dragonkkealk> granted it froze
#2805 [22:19] <lemon-rev> ok thats good, now does it play Dragonkkealk
#2806 [22:19] <Dragonkkealk> cuz the browser sucks
#2807 [22:19] <Dragonkkealk> but lemme try playing downloaded now
#2808 [22:19] <lemon-rev> Dragonkkealk something is stoping the client from running properly you need to find out what
#2809 [22:19] <Dragonkkealk> could it be AVG?
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#2811 [22:20] <Dragonkkealk> yay it's working
#2812 [22:20] <lemon-rev> yes
#2813 [22:20] <lemon-rev> avg is known to block minecraft
#2814 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> haha try deleting your .minecraft and playing from the browser
#2815 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> and let it update
#2816 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> kk thank you lemon!
#2817 [22:21] <fedexginger> minecraft says video card is bad - we've updated drivers, don't know what to do???
#2818 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> next time i'll just unblock ACG
#2819 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> AVG
#2820 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> oh crap
#2821 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> fedex i'm so sorry
#2822 [22:21] <haha7isaboss> it wont work dragon
#2823 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> that sucks!
#2824 [22:21] <Dragonkkealk> turn off any firewall blocking minecraft
#2825 [22:21] <fedexginger> is it our computer?
#2826 [22:21] <haha7isaboss> dont have none
#2827 [22:22] <Dragonkkealk> yes fedex
#2828 [22:22] <Dragonkkealk> you sure haha?
#2829 [22:22] <Dragonkkealk> your on chrome right?
#2830 [22:22] <fedexginger> no bing
#2831 [22:22] <lemon-rev> haha7isaboss what happen ? whats the error your still getting ?
#2832 [22:22] <Dragonkkealk> fedex do you legally own the computer?
#2833 [22:22] <haha7isaboss> the exact same error
#2834 [22:22] <fedexginger> yes
#2835 [22:22] <Dragonkkealk> update your driver
#2836 [22:22] <haha7isaboss> from pastebin
#2837 [22:22] <fedexginger> did that
#2838 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> fedexginger - How did you do that?
#2839 [22:23] <Dragonkkealk> did you re-start yoru computer?
#2840 [22:23] <lemon-rev> hm, what one , one from the broswer or one from the client
#2841 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> If you say through windows update or device manager, we're going to need to have a talk
#2842 [22:23] <Dragonkkealk> lol grey
#2843 [22:23] <fedexginger> yes restarted, first we tried to update through display. Then we updated from HP website for our monitor
#2844 [22:23] <GreyVulpine> What video card do you have?
#2845 [22:23] <Dragonkkealk> what OS do you have?
#2846 [22:24] <haha7isaboss> mac
#2847 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> Bleh, easiest way to answer this:
#2848 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> ??> fedexginger win/dxdiag
#2849 [22:24] <VoxelHead> fedexginger: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2850 [22:24] <VoxelHead> fedexginger: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2851 [22:24] <Dragonkkealk> mac, is out of my league sorry haha
#2852 [22:24] <fedexginger> 82945G intel chipset - something like that
#2853 [22:24] <haha7isaboss> ... its ok thanks anyway
#2854 [22:24] <Dragonkkealk> see y'all
#2855 [22:24] <GreyVulpine> fedexginger - Give us a dxdiag please
#2856 [22:25] <fedexginger> ok hang on a sec
#2857 [22:27] <fedexginger> ok saved to desktop
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#2859 [22:30] <fedexginger> help, i'm lost
#2860 [22:31] <fedexginger> i don't think i did the irc thing right . . .???
#2861 [22:33] <fedexginger> http://pastebin.com/05pYXf54
#2862 [22:34] <fedexginger> greyvulpine- i figured it out
#2863 [22:36] <fedexginger> voxelhead - did i do it right?
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#2867 [22:37] <IxCHOOSExU> how do i get minecraft classic to work on my mac?
#2868 [22:37] <tazzio999> im having a problem playing the game can i get help
#2869 [22:39] <IxCHOOSExU> how do i get minecraft classic to work on my mac?
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#2872 [22:41] <IxCHOOSExU> wow
#2873 [22:41] <Elystus> IxCHOOSExU: I do not believe that..... crap ... .-.
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#2875 [22:42] <tazzio999> when i run minecraft to play it opens up then i click login and the screen goes black and minecraft closes by its self how can i fix it
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#2877 [22:42] <Elystus> tazzio999: Get me an error report by following the instructions here: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2878 [22:42] <Elystus> Post the results on www.pastebin.com
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#2880 [22:44] <tazzio999> is this the error report java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#2882 [22:45] <Elystus> no, thats from a batch file...
#2883 [22:45] <fedexginger> anyone know what to do when updating drivers doesn't work - i keep getting bad video card message
#2884 [22:45] <Elystus> fedexginger: Can I get a dxdiag?
#2885 [22:45] <fedexginger> http://pastebin.com/05pYXf54
#2886 [22:46] <fedexginger> is that what you want?
#2887 [22:47] <Elystus> yea, just looking at a few things
#2888 [22:47] <fedexginger> thank you
#2889 [22:47] <Elystus> try these drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=16835&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#2890 [22:49] <tazzio999> it say error occurred during instalation of VM
#2891 [22:50] <Elystus> try again
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#2893 [22:51] <fedexginger> elystus - i'm downloading now - slow internet.
#2894 [22:52] <tazzio999> now it says could not reserve enough space for object heap
#2895 [22:52] <Elystus> Lol, I jsut got you wto confused lol.
#2896 [22:52] <Elystus> ^holy typos batman
#2897 [22:52] <fedexginger> ha ha
#2898 [22:53] <Elystus> tazzio999: have you tried the error report methods on the link?
#2899 [22:53] <tazzio999> yes i tried the first one
#2900 [22:53] <fedexginger> Elystus - it says i have to restart so do i just try to get into Mindcraft after i restart to see if the new driver works?
#2901 [22:54] <tazzio999> shoud i try the second one
#2902 [22:54] <Elystus> fedexginger: You have to restart.
#2903 [22:54] <Elystus> tazzio999: Skip to the last one.
#2904 [22:54] <tazzio999> ok
#2905 [22:55] <Elystus> third one*
#2906 [22:55] <fedexginger> yes, and then try again in Minecraft to see if it works?
#2907 [22:56] <Elystus> fedexginger: yep! :D
#2908 [22:56] <fedexginger> thank you so much, if this works you will have made my kiddos very happy
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#2911 [22:58] <tazzio999> it wont let me open note pad the only thing i have is word pad
#2912 [22:58] <Elystus> sue wordpad then
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#2914 [22:58] <Elystus> use*
#2915 [22:58] <tazzio999> ok
#2916 [22:59] <bluej774> Can someone help me install Optifine? I think I'm doing it right, but MC hangs at the splash screen.
#2917 [22:59] <Elystus> We don't support mods here
#2918 [22:59] <Elystus> try #Risucraft
#2919 [22:59] <bluej774> thanks
#2920 [23:00] <kinger56> quick qustion. I just tryed to purchase the game, and i beleive i bought it twice on the same account. Will I get charged twice?
#2921 [23:00] <kinger56> quick qustion. I just tryed to purchase the game, and i beleive i bought it twice on the same account. Will I get charged twice?
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#2923 [23:01] <Elystus> kinger56: Probably not. But if you do, you can always get Mojang to return the money back.
#2924 [23:01] <Elystus> The only case where they will.
#2925 [23:02] <kinger56> Okay thanks :D
#2926 [23:02] <tazzio999> word pad doesent have the objects in the method 3
#2927 [23:04] <Elystus> Would it be easier for me to just link the batch file...
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#2929 [23:04] <Elystus> jsut run this file: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/crash_report_method_3.bat
#2930 [23:05] <Amgine> Hi.. wondering if someone could help me get the hang of minecraft's multiplayer mode?
#2931 [23:05] <tazzio999> ok
#2932 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> Amgine - Anything specific we can help you with?
#2933 [23:05] <Elystus> Amgine: In what way?
#2934 [23:05] * Elystus just got ninja'd
#2934 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> \o
#2935 [23:05] * Elystus goes to the corner of shame
#2935 [23:05] <Elystus> p/
#2936 [23:06] <Elystus> o/*
#2937 [23:06] <Amgine> just not sure what to do after joining the server.
#2938 [23:06] <Elystus> Play! :D
#2939 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Depends on the server. If it's just vanilla, just play like you normally do
#2940 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> If it's modded in any way, it's up to you to really figure it out.
#2941 [23:06] <tazzio999> it says save file and i did click on save file and nothing happend
#2942 [23:06] <Elystus> save
#2943 [23:06] <Amgine> i see.
#2944 [23:06] <Elystus> it is in your downloads folder
#2945 [23:06] <Elystus> tazzio999
#2946 [23:07] <tazzio999> ok
#2947 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> There really isn't a consistant playing experience across servers. It's all independently run. Some servers run vanilla, some like to do player vs player combat. Some do RPG/adventure aspects, some do multiworld aspects, some do...
#2948 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> It's as widely varied as players' tastes in multiplayer games
#2949 [23:08] <tazzio999> nothin happing im clicking on it in the downloads to
#2950 [23:08] <Elystus> tazzio999: is it in the same folder as your launcher?
#2951 [23:09] <tazzio999> i dont think i have that folder
#2952 [23:10] <Amgine> so where would i go to find small servers. it seems like the bigger ones are too overwhelming atm
#2953 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> ??> Amgine smp/servers
#2954 [23:10] <VoxelHead> Amgine: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2955 [23:10] <VoxelHead> Amgine: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2956 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> You can start by searching through those indices
#2957 [23:11] <Amgine> cool thanks!
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#2959 [23:12] <tazzio999> i dont think i have that folder
#2960 [23:12] <tazzio999> i dont think i have that folder
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#2962 [23:13] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Can you take over on tazzio999, I have to go. He is trying to create an error report at this time. He has the bat but needs to palce it with his launcher.
#2963 [23:13] <Elystus> place*
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#2965 [23:13] <wilson> can some 1 help me please?
#2966 [23:14] <wilson> anyone on?
#2967 [23:14] <tazzio999> i dont think i have the folder with the launch in it
#2968 [23:14] <Elystus> tazzio999: I have to go, I will be back in an hour or so. Hopefully someone else can help you... Sorry :/
#2969 [23:14] <wilson> np
#2970 [23:14] <tazzio999> that ok thank u
#2971 [23:15] <wilson> but my minecraft char must have gotten deleted or something, in all the launchers, technic, normal and even minecraft.net my usner name isn't there
#2972 [23:16] <tazzio999> can some one help me
#2973 [23:16] * Elystus pings DiskDaemon
#2973 [23:16] * Elystus leaves
#2973 [23:17] <wilson> ya tazzio what u need?
#2974 [23:18] <tazzio999> my mine craft closes by it self
#2975 [23:18] <wilson> reinstall it
#2976 [23:18] <tazzio999> i tryed 2 times
#2977 [23:18] <wilson> the launcher?
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#2979 [23:19] <wilson> suny can u help me?
#2980 [23:19] <sunyshoremon> yes
#2981 [23:19] <wilson> my mc char must have gotten deleted or something
#2982 [23:19] <tazzio999> yes i reinstalled it 2 times
#2983 [23:20] <sunyshoremon> char?
#2984 [23:20] <wilson> tazzio did you also wipe the %appdata&% files
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#2986 [23:20] <iaindude> HELP
#2987 [23:20] <sunyshoremon> lmao^
#2988 [23:20] <wilson> ya, i tried logging in with minecraft.net and the launcher and it doesn't work
#2989 [23:20] <iaindude> i wanna put buildcraft on a server how do i do it
#2990 [23:20] <wilson> wait ur turn
#2991 [23:21] <sunyshoremon> wilson, try waiting for mc to come back on, it always happens when they're doing something. Or reboot your computer
#2992 [23:21] <sunyshoremon> trust
#2993 [23:21] <tazzio999> no i dont know how to do that
#2994 [23:21] <iaindude> maybe restart your hub
#2995 [23:21] <wilson> ty suny
#2996 [23:21] <sunyshoremon> yw
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#2998 [23:21] <ultimatespec> @login
#2999 [23:21] <ultimatespec> !login
#3000 [23:22] <iaindude> minecraft.net is up fyi
#3001 [23:22] <ultimatespec> yes i know that....
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#3004 [23:23] <Munchkin> .
#3005 [23:23] <Munchkin> So do we just say are problem or...?
#3006 [23:24] <Andrio> Yes
#3007 [23:24] <Andrio> say it.
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#3009 [23:24] <jacesp> this is ridiculous. I have spent 16 quid on this game for my grandson and I can't get it to work
#3010 [23:24] <|Kiikun|> !login
#3011 [23:25] <|Kiikun|> :/
#3012 [23:25] <iaindude> try updating java
#3013 [23:25] <jacesp> bad driver message
#3014 [23:25] <Munchkin> Well i tried to buy minecraft today and i would fill oout my info and press pay and it would pop up with a error box saying it wont let me buy it because of a legal issue in my state at the moment wich is illinois.
#3015 [23:25] <tazzio999> can i get help again
#3016 [23:25] <jacesp> have updated java
#3017 [23:25] <iaindude> are you running xo?
#3018 [23:25] <Scott> jacesp: It is a problem with your computer, not the game.
#3019 [23:26] <Scott> You need to update your drivers.
#3020 [23:26] <jacesp> driver is up to date
#3021 [23:26] <iaindude> Munchkin: try using a proxy lol
#3022 [23:26] <Scott> Then your graphics card isn't capable of running Minecraft.
#3023 [23:26] <jacesp> says nothing on site before you pay about having to have specific video card
#3024 [23:26] <Scott> Modern video cards work.
#3025 [23:27] <Munchkin> Like a proxy server for the internet?
#3026 [23:27] <iaindude> yeah
#3027 [23:27] <jacesp> laptop only 1 year old!!
#3028 [23:27] <Scott> You probably have Intel graphics with outdated drivers then.
#3029 [23:27] <Scott> Drivers through Windows Update aren't the latest.
#3030 [23:27] <jacesp> intel hd card. driver up to date
#3031 [23:28] <Scott> Windows I assume?
#3032 [23:28] <tazzio999> can i get help
#3033 [23:28] <jacesp> have been to intel site for update
#3034 [23:28] <iaindude> how do i mod a server
#3035 [23:28] <jacesp> yep windows
#3036 [23:28] <sunyshoremon> Hi I need help changing my mc logo (launcher logo, so it looks like a chrome logo) so I've found the .png file in the minecraft.exe by opening with WinRaR .. So I tried to change the 32 x 32 picture into the chrome logo then I get a WinRaR Message saying: C:/Users/<name>/videos/mmcc.exe: The archive is corrupt .. Any idea how I can change it?
#3037 [23:28] <Scott> If you're really installed the latest drivers, we can't do anything.
#3038 [23:28] <Scott> you've*
#3039 [23:28] <jacesp> will it work on my mac?
#3040 [23:28] <Scott> ??> iaindude mods
#3041 [23:28] <VoxelHead> iaindude: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3042 [23:28] <VoxelHead> iaindude: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#3043 [23:29] <Scott> jacesp: Probably.
#3044 [23:29] <sunyshoremon> Hi I need help changing my mc logo (launcher logo, so it looks like a chrome logo) so I've found the .png file in the minecraft.exe by opening with WinRaR .. So I tried to change the 32 x 32 picture into the chrome logo then I get a WinRaR Message saying: C:/Users/<name>/videos/mmcc.exe: The archive is corrupt .. Any idea how I can change it?
#3045 [23:29] <Scott> sunyshoremon: don't spam please
#3046 [23:29] <tazzio999> i need help
#3047 [23:29] <iaindude> whats bukkit?
#3048 [23:29] <jacesp> think its wrong to charge without telling people about this potential problem
#3049 [23:30] <Andrio> sunyshoremon, are you opening the right thing? mmcc.exe looks dodgy.
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#3051 [23:30] <sunyshoremon> i renamed it
#3052 [23:31] <Ethan> can anyone else not login in to minecraft?
#3053 [23:31] <iaindude> im gonna guess that minecraft might be updating or somthing cus minecraft.net is down
#3054 [23:31] <Andrio> sunyshoremon, you should be in %appdata%\.minecraft\bin\minecraft.jar
#3055 [23:31] <Scott> mmcc.exe is the known file name of malware. lol.
#3056 [23:32] <sunyshoremon> i just renamed it but, you change the logo by editing it through the launcher..
#3057 [23:32] <sunyshoremon> not minecraft.jar
#3058 [23:33] <sunyshoremon> i guess i could uname it from mmcc to something else
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#3060 [23:36] <Munchkin> Does anyone know abourt payment errors?
#3061 [23:41] <iaindude> why did you name it mmcc sunny
#3062 [23:43] <GreyVulpine> Munchkin - See: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
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#3065 [23:56] <SniperZone832> I need help making this decision
#3066 [23:57] <GreyVulpine> The answer is Yes.
#3067 [23:58] <SniperZone832> If i purchase minecraft and it doesnt work on ,y desktop can i transfer it to another desktop i own or do i have to buy it again
#3068 [23:58] <SniperZone832> \my*
#3069 [23:59] <GreyVulpine> You purchase a minecraft account. It's not tied to any computer. You can freely move it across any computer you own