#1 [00:00] <|Kiikun|> you change that part of the skin.
#2 [00:00] <joda> how
#3 [00:00] <|Kiikun|> in an image editor
#4 [00:00] <joda> but how come its like that
#5 [00:00] <joda> i didnt download a solved rubix cube
#6 [00:00] <|Kiikun|> because you saved it liek that?
#7 [00:00] <joda> no
#8 [00:01] <joda> is it posiible i can send u what i downloaded?
#9 [00:01] <|Kiikun|> joda: no. you can link to it though
#10 [00:01] <joda> k 1 min
#11 [00:02] <papascrumptious> i still need help... i cant play
#12 [00:02] <joda> http://www.minecraftskins.info/trollface.html
#13 [00:02] <joda> thats the link where i downloaded it from
#14 [00:02] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: when you logged in to minecraft (with the launcher) did it give any errors? (red text that replaces where you put the user/pass)?
#15 [00:03] <papascrumptious> whats the user/pass
#16 [00:03] <|Kiikun|> joda: it woudl be hilarious if mojang put code in the skinserver to replace trollfaces with rubix cubes... but i doubt it... try clickign change there and chasngin directly from the site
#17 [00:04] <joda> i dont know how to change it
#18 [00:04] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: short for username and password. the launcer has the news about 1.2.5
#19 [00:04] <|Kiikun|> joda: click the change button on the page you linked
#20 [00:05] <papascrumptious> no, everything goes fine
#21 [00:05] <joda> i dont know how to change it?
#22 [00:05] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: ok then when connecting to your server (with 127.0.0.1) what error does it give?
#23 [00:06] <joda> why does it my accoutn has migrated and use your email to login?
#24 [00:06] <|Kiikun|> joda: you clicky button. takes you to minecraft.net and asks you to login. then asks you if you want to make that your skin.
#25 [00:06] <papascrumptious> wtf, it just worked
#26 [00:06] <papascrumptious> i love you
#27 [00:06] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: you were either improperly logged in befoe.. or someone else loged in with your uswername
#28 [00:06] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: incase its the 2nd, you may wanna change your password
#29 [00:07] <papascrumptious> wth, how do i change it
#30 [00:08] <joda> YAY ITS WORKING NOW
#31 [00:08] <joda> THANKS MAN!
#32 [00:08] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: either the minecraft.net profile page, or the account.mojang.com page if you migrated
#33 [00:08] <joda> but why does it says your account has been migrated please login with your email?
#34 [00:09] <papascrumptious> thanks bro!
#35 [00:09] <|Kiikun|> joda: because you migrated your account and have to login with your email address.
#36 [00:09] <papascrumptious> wait...
#37 [00:10] <joda> no i didnt and i dont know what migrated means in this case
#38 [00:10] <papascrumptious> will my friends be able to login now?
#39 [00:10] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: they should.
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#41 [00:11] <joda> do u know how i can change it back or something?
#42 [00:11] <|Kiikun|> joda: do you log into minecraft's launcher with your username, or your email?
#43 [00:11] <mitch> hi i am having trouble playing my dowloaded minecraft. it says it runs out of memory??
#44 [00:11] <|Kiikun|> cant revert a migrated account
#45 [00:11] <joda> i normally log in with my username but this time i had to log in with my email
#46 [00:11] <|Kiikun|> mitch: how much RAM does your computer have?
#47 [00:11] <mitch> not sure...its brand new
#48 [00:12] <|Kiikun|> joda: you ever been to account.mojang.com?
#49 [00:12] <joda> never
#50 [00:12] <joda> well yeah
#51 [00:12] <joda> to get help
#52 [00:12] <|Kiikun|> mitch: memory?
#53 [00:12] <joda> from you
#54 [00:12] <mitch> 4gb
#55 [00:13] <papascrumptious> it wont let them join...
#56 [00:13] <joda> so do i know how i can go back to using my username
#57 [00:13] <|Kiikun|> joda: your accoutn became migrated. someoen must have done it. all it changes is that you use email instead of username in minecraft.net and the launcher
#58 [00:13] <|Kiikun|> and it cant be undone from what i know.
#59 [00:13] <|Kiikun|> mitch: you have ALOT of other stuff open?
#60 [00:13] <joda> can you change it back plz?
#61 [00:14] <|Kiikun|> ?? accounts
#62 [00:14] <VoxelHead> accounts: Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#63 [00:14] <papascrumptious> ........
#64 [00:15] <mitch> theres allthe gadgetson the home scree...other than that, the computer hasnt got any other programs installed on it
#65 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: it works.
#66 [00:16] <|Kiikun|> tell them 69.195.16.43
#67 [00:16] <joda> im still confused how can i change it back so i log in with my username
#68 [00:16] <papascrumptious> was that you
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#70 [00:17] <papascrumptious> do they go to direct connect?
#71 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> joda: you'd have to ask mojang to revert it.
#72 [00:17] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: direct connect. or add it to their server list
#73 [00:17] <joda> how do i do thgat?
#74 [00:17] <joda> that
#75 [00:18] <|Kiikun|> ??> joda accounts
#76 [00:18] <VoxelHead> joda: (accounts) Account or payment issues cannot be resolved by the helpers in this channel, you may contact Mojang directly to resolve this issue by following the instructions at: http://www.minecraft.net/support/
#77 [00:20] <mitch> it comes up with the same message whether i play online or offline
#78 [00:21] <|Kiikun|> mitch: that wouldnt matter... try updating java at www.java.com
#79 [00:21] <|Kiikun|> if your computer;s 64bit, then make sure to get the 64bit version too
#80 [00:22] <mitch> ok I'll give that a go
#81 [00:23] <joda> THE FRICKIN LINK DOSENT HELP I DONT KNOW SPECIFICLY WAT TO DO TO REVERT IT
#82 [00:23] <papascrumptious> it doesnt work now
#83 [00:23] <papascrumptious> it syas something about internal exception
#84 [00:24] <joda> nothing in the link shows how to change it back!
#85 [00:25] <papascrumptious> anybody?
#86 [00:25] <|Kiikun|> joda: thats probably because mojang doesnt allow people to change it back. someone logged in with your accoutn and told it to migrate.
#87 [00:26] <papascrumptious> kiikun?
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#89 [00:26] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: internal exceoption means 'somethign broke'. was it you just gettign disconnected, opr minecraft itself crashing?
#90 [00:27] <papascrumptious> me
#91 [00:27] <joda_> THE LINK DOSENT HELP NOTHIN IN THE TEXT SHOWS HOW TO CHANGE IT BACK!
#92 [00:27] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: whats was the full line
#93 [00:27] <|Kiikun|> [00:25] <+|Kiikun|> joda: thats probably because mojang doesnt allow people to change it back. someone logged in with your accoutn and told it to migrate.
#94 [00:27] <papascrumptious> one sec
#95 [00:27] <|Kiikun|> joda: also you dont need 2 chats open. im goign to kick one of you in 5 seconds.
#96 [00:28] <|Kiikun|> !kick joda webchat-clones and yelling.
#97 [00:28] * AuBot kicked joda from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oda :Don't let the door hit ya where the dogs should have bit ya! (Issued by |Kiikun| with reason: webchat-clones and yelling.))
#98 [00:29] <papascrumptious> connection lost Internal exception: java.net.socketTimeoutException: Read timed ou
#99 [00:29] <papascrumptious> t
#100 [00:29] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: you just got disconnected. can you still reconnect?
#101 [00:29] <papascrumptious> nope
#102 [00:29] <papascrumptious> ive tried like 5 times
#103 [00:30] <|Kiikun|> !check 69.195.16.43
#104 [00:30] <joda_> y was i kicked
#105 [00:30] <joda_> im srry
#106 [00:30] <joda_> but im desperatley in need of help
#107 [00:30] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: the server is still running, right?
#108 [00:30] <papascrumptious> how do i tell?
#109 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> joda_: i kicked your other chat (you have 2 open) and were yelling. ill paste my answer again.
#110 [00:31] <joda_> i found it
#111 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> joda: thats probably because mojang doesnt allow people to change it back. someone logged in with your accoutn and told it to migrate.
#112 [00:31] <joda_> but i wasnt the one who migrated it
#113 [00:31] <joda_> someone else did
#114 [00:31] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: doesnt the mac version have a console?
#115 [00:31] <papascrumptious> console?
#116 [00:32] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: the screen that says 'loading server' and the like.
#117 [00:32] <papascrumptious> port map?
#118 [00:32] <papascrumptious> o yea!
#119 [00:33] <papascrumptious> it says 1% free is that a problem?
#120 [00:34] <joda_> can anyone help me?
#121 [00:34] <|Kiikun|> papa: window titled 'minecraft server' has alot of text startign with [INFO] on the right
#122 [00:34] <papascrumptious> i know, im on it
#123 [00:35] <papascrumptious> it says out of memory error
#124 [00:35] <|Kiikun|> joda_: we cannot help with account issues and you have to contact mojang directly. i also doubt they will revert your account from a mograted one back to just minecraft.
#125 [00:35] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: yeah, the server ran out of memory and crashed from the sounds of irt
#126 [00:35] <papascrumptious> how do i get more?
#127 [00:35] <joda_> do you know how i can contact them directly can i get a email or some sort?
#128 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 2
#129 [00:36] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 2 = For account issues see http://is.gd/G3zPKi ] ... set by [ Boreeas | Sun Jul 15 05:04:41 MST 2012 ]
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#132 [00:37] <joda_> are you guys alowed to tell me how to contact them directly?
#133 [00:38] <papascrumptious> ???
#134 [00:38] <|Kiikun|> joda_: closest relevent help article i see is. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/438361-account-migration-issues
#135 [00:38] <|Kiikun|> joda_: specificly the "If someone has migrated your account for you" and the last paragraph.
#136 [00:39] <papascrumptious> ?????
#137 [00:39] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: close and restart the server. your cvomputer may just not liek havign the game and the server open at the same time
#138 [00:40] <papascrumptious> says connection refused
#139 [00:43] <|Kiikun|> connection refused means the port IS open, but nothing is accepting connections (meaning the mcserver opened the port, but isnt responding to any connection attempts)
#140 [00:43] <joda_> Thanks!
#141 [00:44] <joda_> lets say you play minecraft in browser can the world be saved or no?
#142 [00:45] <papascrumptious> so what do i do ?
#143 [00:48] <papascrumptious> ????
#144 [00:50] <papascrumptious> now it says host is down and stuff
#145 [00:50] <|Kiikun|> joda_: playign in the browser will save the world on that computer and user only (the computer user, not minecratf user)
#146 [00:50] <|Kiikun|> papascrumptious: did you close and re-run the server?
#147 [00:52] <papascrumptious> thanks, it works for now
#148 [00:53] <|Kiikun|> if it dies again.. ask scott :P
#149 [00:53] * |Kiikun| bows to the resident mac expert
#149 [00:53] * |Kiikun| bows to the resident mac expert
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#150 [00:57] <papascrumptious> disconnected me again said end of stream
#151 [01:00] <papascrumptious> ???????
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#157 [01:41] <papascrumptious> does anybody know how to get self commands?
#158 [01:42] <TKGP_DS> install singleplayer commands?
#159 [01:47] <papascrumptious> yea
#160 [01:48] <papascrumptious> i also need help for my server... how do i set magical spells for chests
#161 [01:48] <papascrumptious> ???
#162 [01:49] <TKGP_DS> that would be something you need a mod for
#163 [01:49] <papascrumptious> how do i get it?
#164 [01:49] <TKGP_DS> and this is not really the right place to ask about mods
#165 [01:49] <papascrumptious> ok
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#171 [02:00] <Guest> Hello
#172 [02:00] <Guest> I cannot seem to connect to any of my servers
#173 [02:01] <Arle> What happens when you try?
#174 [02:01] <Guest> connection refused
#175 [02:02] <Guest> thats what it says
#176 [02:02] <Arle> Well, I've seen that when the server's actually not running, or it's on the wrong port.
#177 [02:02] <Arle> check that.
#178 [02:03] <Guest> wrong port?
#179 [02:03] <Arle> it's a Minecraft server, isn't it?
#180 [02:04] <Arle> Are there any errors in the console/log?
#181 [02:04] <Guest> negative. going to the servers forums, it appears most people are not able to connect. I just find it weird that it happenes to all 3
#182 [02:04] <Guest> happens*
#183 [02:06] <Arle> I'd check the config to make sure it's using the right port, too.
#184 [02:06] <Arle> 25565 is conventional for Minecraft.
#185 [02:08] <Guest> how do i check the port?
#186 [02:12] <Arle> there'll be a setting in your server configuration.
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#188 [02:13] <Arle> If you're using the vanilla server, open server.properties and look for 'server-port'
#189 [02:13] <Arle> I think it's the same with Bukkit
#190 [02:14] * Arle never fails to be amused by clarjon1's quit message :)
#190 [02:15] <Guest> I still really have no idea how to get to server configs.
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#192 [02:17] <Hystrx> Hello im having trouble playing minecraft.
#193 [02:18] <Arle> What sort of trouble?
#194 [02:18] <Hystrx> After about 5 minutes in freezes and says im out of memory.
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#196 [02:25] <Cyndaquil> hello
#197 [02:26] <Cyndaquil> anyone on who can help
#198 [02:26] <Arle> what do you need help with?
#199 [02:26] <Disori> Lot's of people. Just ask your question
#200 [02:27] <Arle> yeah
#201 [02:28] <Cyndaquil> when i try to update minecraft on the browser it says failed to launch fatal error occured (5): a device attached to the system is not functioning Extracting: windows_natives.jar.lzma to windows_natives.jar how do i fix this
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#203 [02:35] <Disori> Haven't heard that one before
#204 [02:35] <Disori> Cyndaquil, why not do it off the browser? It's practically the same thing
#205 [02:36] <Cyndaquil> the launcher will not work
#206 [02:36] <Cyndaquil> i have tried
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#213 [03:06] <slowfi> I don't recommend running minecraft at the same time as the browser. My computer can't handle minecraft+browser simultaneously. maybe yours can if it's a lot more powerful than mine
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#215 [03:07] <harry> hi
#216 [03:07] <slowfi> the entire concept of running minecraft in the browser sounds ludicrous to me
#217 [03:07] <Guest90050> hello
#218 [03:09] <Guest90050> hello?!
#219 [03:10] <Arle> Uh... hello
#220 [03:10] <Guest90050> i need assistance installing minecraft update 1.2.5
#221 [03:10] <Arle> Force Update not working?
#222 [03:10] <Guest90050> no
#223 [03:10] <Guest90050> keeps getting stuck
#224 [03:11] <slowfi> wait and install 1.3 next week
#225 [03:11] <Guest90050> .-.
#226 [03:11] <Arle> slowfi, if 1.2.5 won't install, 1.3 probably won't install either.
#227 [03:11] <Guest90050> it gets stuck on the .jar
#228 [03:12] <slowfi> 1.3 can stack signs. and gravel is improved
#229 [03:14] <Guest90050> how can i get download to work?
#230 [03:17] <Guest90050> ?
#231 [03:18] <Guest90050> am i going to be helped in the #minecrafthelp or is this just a waste of time?
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#233 [03:20] <Guest90050> can someone please help me?
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#235 [03:22] <Guest90050> can anyone please me
#236 [03:22] <Guest90050> help me*
#237 [03:23] <Guest90050> can someone help me, minecraft gets stuck when updating
#238 [03:23] <[JD]> Help, I need somebody, Help, not just anybody, Help, you know I need someone, help.
#239 [03:23] <Guest90050> oh so you're going to troll me in the help forum
#240 [03:23] <[JD]> :o
#241 [03:23] <Necrodoom> Guest90050: unoffical help IRC, by the way
#242 [03:23] <[JD]> run as admin?
#243 [03:24] <Guest90050> i am
#244 [03:24] <Necrodoom> Guest90050: you could try wait for a voice who knows about this
#245 [03:24] <[JD]> del bin folder, let minecraft redownload
#246 [03:25] <[JD]> win+r %appdata% /roaming/.minecraft/
#247 [03:25] <Guest90050> tried
#248 [03:25] <[JD]> thats the general fix anyway
#249 [03:25] <Guest90050> .jar failed again
#250 [03:25] <Arle> %appdata% already points to roaming.
#251 [03:26] <Guest90050> "fix" didn't work
#252 [03:26] <Guest90050> minecraft.jar doesnt download
#253 [03:27] <DopeGhoti> ??> Guest90050 win/reinst
#254 [03:27] <VoxelHead> Guest90050: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#255 [03:27] <VoxelHead> Guest90050: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#256 [03:29] <Guest90050> [08:26] <VoxelHead> Guest90050: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. [08:26] <VoxelHead> Guest90050: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Mine
#257 [03:29] <Guest90050> problem now worse
#258 [03:29] <Necrodoom> how is it "worse"?
#259 [03:30] <Necrodoom> what happens exactly when you launch minecraft.exe
#260 [03:30] <Guest90050> i get to log in screen, click log in, click update, download gets stuck
#261 [03:30] <Necrodoom> so same
#262 [03:30] <Guest90050> as soon as i get to minecraft.jar
#263 [03:30] <Guest90050> it stops
#264 [03:31] <Guest90050> i am so sick of it
#265 [03:31] <Guest90050> regret buying it now
#266 [03:31] <GreyVulpine> Do you run AVG?
#267 [03:32] <Guest90050> yes, but it made no difference with prior updates
#268 [03:32] <GreyVulpine> AVG's known to block minecraft from downloading its files. Disable AVG's linkscanner module and try again.
#269 [03:33] <Guest90050> finally someone's solved it! thank you ever so much!
#270 [03:33] * GreyVulpine nods
#270 [03:33] <Guest90050> :D i love you
#271 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> You can enable the linkscanner module again after it's finished updating
#272 [03:33] <slowfi> what is AVG?
#273 [03:33] <GreyVulpine> AVG is an antivirus program
#274 [03:34] <GreyVulpine> Notorious around here for false positives on minecraft.jar and lwjgl.jar
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#276 [03:35] <slowfi> sometimes mcaffee AV makes my computer do stupid things
#277 [03:35] <GreyVulpine> Most of the helpers here know the signs of various AV maladies that affect minecraft..
#278 [03:36] <GreyVulpine> Anyhoo, I'm off.
#279 [03:36] <Guest90050> audio doesnt work :S
#280 [03:37] <Guest90050> why does audio only make the sound of running water
#281 [03:37] <Guest90050> and nothing else? common problem or?
#282 [03:38] <GreyVulpine> Go into %appdata%/.minecraft/ and delete the resources folder. Then try a force update through the launcher
#283 [03:39] <[JD]> avg has gone downhill over the past couple years
#284 [03:39] <[JD]> :P
#285 [03:40] <Guest90050> then i have to reinstall all of the .jar again ._.
#286 [03:41] <Guest90050> which file controls audio
#287 [03:42] <Necrodoom> Guest90050: <GreyVulpine> Go into %appdata%/.minecraft/ and delete the resources folder. Then try a force update through the launcher
#288 [03:42] <slowfi> some people in this channel are very helpful, but you should be patient
#289 [03:43] <Guest90050> ^ that didnt fix audio
#290 [03:47] <Guest90050> found audio fix online
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#292 [03:49] <lolcraft24> hello
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#294 [04:38] <lolcraft24> hello
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#299 [05:01] <iisacc> Herro Pipples
#300 [05:02] <iisacc> Anyone able to lend some time for some troubleshooting?
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#302 [05:04] <lemon-rev> iisacc ?
#303 [05:11] <iisacc> oh hai, sorry went afk a little.
#304 [05:11] <iisacc> my client is crashing to desktop immediately after loggin in
#305 [05:12] <iisacc> doin that for sinse the 20th
#306 [05:13] <iisacc> can't play via download or through the browser.
#307 [05:13] <iisacc> the browser java just goes white.. doesn't CTD.
#308 [05:14] <iisacc> i've done full uninstall, reinstall of java, x86 and x64, reboots and all the general foo
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#316 [06:01] <Jervfors> Hi. I just bougth MC, but it doesn't work as intended. Sometimes when I hit a block enough for it to be removed, it's doesn't dissapear graphically, although it drops an block item for me to pick up and I can walk through the block as it isn't there.
#317 [06:01] <Jervfors> Sometimes the blocks become invisible, so I can see all the caves and such underground.
#318 [06:02] <Jervfors> I've updated Windows Vista and Java, and I've forced an update of my 1.2.5 MC as well.
#319 [06:02] <Calinou> Jervfors, what are the specs of your computer?
#320 [06:02] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#321 [06:02] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#322 [06:02] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#323 [06:02] <Calinou> do what VoxelHead says
#324 [06:04] * Jervfors does that.
#324 [06:05] <Jervfors> http://pastebin.com/ZdbMnQ5J
#325 [06:06] <Calinou> wow, that graphics card is quite old ;)
#326 [06:06] <Calinou> Jervfors, singleplayer I presume?
#327 [06:06] <Jervfors> Yes, singleplayer.
#328 [06:07] <Calinou> that's a known bug, yes, sometimes the blocks stay there and can be walked through... this seems to happen more often on older graphics card
#329 [06:07] <Calinou> try reducing your renter distance and disabling advanced opengl
#330 [06:07] <Calinou> (or, you could try enabling it and see what happens)
#331 [06:08] <Jervfors> I have Render Distance: Normal.
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#333 [06:08] <Jervfors> And Advanced OpenGL: Off
#334 [06:08] <AuzToddTV> anyone know why they havent sent me a verification email?
#335 [06:08] <Jervfors> I'll try Render Distance: Short.
#336 [06:09] <AuzToddTV> anyone know why minecraft havent sent me a verification email
#337 [06:09] <Calinou> AuzToddTV, did you type in your email correctly? are you sure?
#338 [06:09] * Calinou facepalms
#338 [06:13] <Jervfors> Calinou: "Render Distance: Short" seem to help. I'll play some more to see if the errors show up again.
#339 [06:13] <Jervfors> Thank you for your help.
#340 [06:18] <Calinou> no problem
#341 [06:29] <lolcraft24> hello
#342 [06:29] <lolcraft24> anybody on
#343 [06:29] <lemon-rev> whats up
#344 [06:30] <lolcraft24> nm
#345 [06:31] <lolcraft24> still dont have premuim
#346 [06:31] <lolcraft24> and very sad
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#348 [06:31] <lemon-rev> lol ring your bank and make sure mojang has recived your payment some banks stop payments made
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#352 [06:35] <lolcraft24> cant
#353 [06:35] <lemon-rev> why
#354 [06:35] <lolcraft24> idk
#355 [06:35] <chris61> my internet on my computer works but minecraft does not. help please!
#356 [06:36] <lemon-rev> chris61 try login to minecraft.net and on the home page click in broswer
#357 [06:36] <chris61> ok i will try
#358 [06:37] <chris61> no, it does not work
#359 [06:37] <chris61> is there a problem with minecraft?
#360 [06:37] <lemon-rev> what does it tell you
#361 [06:37] <chris61> or server maintainence?
#362 [06:38] <lemon-rev> oh, you will just have to wait till it comes back online, sorry but it could mean the download of minecraft could be down as well
#363 [06:38] <chris61> can't connect ti minecraft.net. i tried connecting for two days but it does not work
#364 [06:39] <lemon-rev> chris is something blocking the exe from connecting like firewall or antivirus
#365 [06:39] * Chris throws a 61 at lemon-rev
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#366 [06:42] <chris61_> so itonly started two days ago
#367 [06:42] <chris61_> the could not log in to minecraft.net thing
#368 [06:43] <chris61_> but before that,, it could work
#369 [06:44] <chris61_> and it was perfectly fine
#370 [06:44] <chris61_> hello?
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#372 [06:45] <chris61> hello?
#373 [06:46] <chris61> so should i waiit for minecraft
#374 [06:47] <chris61> so should i wait for minecraft1.3 to come out as they may be doing server maintainence?
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#376 [06:48] <chris61> why on my com, minecraft does not work?
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#379 [06:50] <chris61> why on my com minecraft does not work?
#380 [06:50] <chris61> anyone knows why?
#381 [06:50] <Arle> chris61, your firewall might be blocking Java from connecting.
#382 [06:51] <chris61> hello?
#383 [06:51] <chris61> right
#384 [06:51] <chris61> so how do i disconnect my firewall?
#385 [06:51] <Arle> Turn it off and see if it works then.
#386 [06:52] <chris61> ok
#387 [06:53] <chris61> if firewall is not blocking then what is?
#388 [06:54] <Arle> I don't know if anything else would block it
#389 [06:54] <chris61> because it has not been working for two days already
#390 [06:54] <Arle> unless you can't get to the Minecraft.net homepage
#391 [06:55] <chris61> i can just that it is not working
#392 [06:55] <Arle> did you turn off your antivirus/firewall?
#393 [06:56] <chris61> but if i turn off, the virus might come in
#394 [06:56] <chris61> but i dont think i have any virus
#395 [06:56] <Arle> well then turn it back on later
#396 [06:56] <chris61> ok
#397 [06:57] <chris61> still cant connect
#398 [06:58] <lemon-rev> chris what about your antivirus
#399 [06:58] <lemon-rev> what av < are your unning
#400 [06:58] <lemon-rev> running *
#401 [06:58] <chris61> cannot
#402 [06:58] <lemon-rev> cannot ?
#403 [06:59] <chris61> cannot
#404 [06:59] <lemon-rev> more info ?
#405 [06:59] <chris61> ghats all
#406 [07:00] <lemon-rev> chris if you say cannot, i dont have anything to go off by to help
#407 [07:00] <chris61> ok
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#409 [07:01] <chris61> i did not do anything to minrcrsft, i did not delete it
#410 [07:01] <lemon-rev> chirs im not asking if you did, your launcher isnt working correct
#411 [07:02] <chris61> right
#412 [07:02] <Arle> !login
#413 [07:02] <lemon-rev> chris what antivirus are you running ?
#414 [07:02] <chris61> not sure
#415 [07:03] <chris61> i dont think i am running any antivirus softeare
#416 [07:03] <lemon-rev> move the mouse down near the time and you should see a shield emblim can you see one
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#419 [07:05] <chris61> how about the free version?
#420 [07:05] <lemon-rev> free version of what exactly something like avg ?
#421 [07:06] <lemon-rev> should have a box with 4 colors if you can see one at all
#422 [07:06] <chris61> is the free download version outdated?
#423 [07:06] <chris61> free doenload of minecraft
#424 [07:06] <Necrodoom> free minecraft is extremely outdated
#425 [07:06] <lemon-rev> hm, no, unless you get a cracked version and i will not tell you how to get that
#426 [07:07] <Necrodoom> no mobs, no entitys, no physics
#427 [07:07] <Necrodoom> and a third of the blocks
#428 [07:07] <lemon-rev> free minecraft is called classic but minecraft atm supports those and more
#429 [07:07] <Necrodoom> its minecraft from like 2 years ago
#430 [07:08] <chris61> what hapoens if i press the force update button in the options button in the place you enter your account in minecraft?
#431 [07:09] <Arle> chris61, it'll redownload all of Minecraft's data files.
#432 [07:09] <chris61> will anything go wrong?
#433 [07:09] <Arle> hopefully not.
#434 [07:09] <chris61> what do u mean redownload?
#435 [07:10] <Necrodoom> chris61: exactly what it means
#436 [07:10] <Necrodoom> chris61: redownloads all of the minecraft install files
#437 [07:10] <Arle> it'll replace whatever's on your computer with fresh data from minecraft.net
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#439 [07:10] <chris61> redoeredoenload means all the files gine?
#440 [07:11] <Necrodoom> saves arent touched, i think
#441 [07:11] <chris61> redownload means everything is gone
#442 [07:11] <chris61> is it?
#443 [07:12] <Arle> I think, just the bin folder
#444 [07:12] <Necrodoom> its stored in a split folder
#445 [07:12] <Necrodoom> so it wont be touched
#446 [07:12] <Necrodoom> i think
#447 [07:12] <Necrodoom> backup just in case
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#456 [07:45] <Chris61> If I click force update prematurely, will everything in mine craft be deleted?
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#458 [07:46] <Chris61> If I click the force update button prematurely
#459 [07:47] <Chris61> Will all of my mine craft files be deleted?
#460 [07:47] <Chris61> What does the force update button do?
#461 [07:48] <Chris61> Anyone knows?
#462 [07:49] <lukegb> It'll get rid of your minecraft.jar and redownload it. Possibly more.
#463 [07:52] <Chris61> But will it permanently delete all my files?
#464 [07:53] <Chris61> Will it?
#465 [07:53] <lukegb> Chris61: your world? No.
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#468 [07:54] <Chris61> I mean all of my files in mine craft
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#470 [07:56] <Smanly> which files?
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#472 [07:57] <Chris61> All my worlds in mine craft
#473 [07:57] <Smanly> HNo
#474 [07:57] <Smanly> They will stay
#475 [07:57] <Smanly> You can always backup your files if you are worried
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#477 [08:09] <Olin03> HI, I have a question regarding saved games. I couldn´t retrieve minecraft, I counldn´t play via browser eather so I downloaded the game again. Is there any way to retrieve my earlier saved files?
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#486 [09:21] <ifruit6> I recently purchased minecraft premium. It does not say that it was given to my account! What should I do
#487 [09:22] <Chris61> Since I can't access mine craft as it sayscannot connect to mine craft.net, how long will it take to resolve this issue?
#488 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#489 [09:22] <DiskDaemon> User may not know that browser tabs exist. That's ominous.
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#491 [09:23] <Straitis> Hey Peeps.
#492 [09:24] <Straitis> I havea stop of sever trouble, I have forwarded the ports correctly (To my knowledge anyway)
#493 [09:24] <Straitis> I have seen him connect to my sever but he gets kicked for not having a minecraft name etc
#494 [09:25] <Straitis> I changed the sever to offline mode but then neither of us can connect
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#496 [09:25] <Straitis> Any idea how I can get him to connect whilst the sever is on offline mode?
#497 [09:25] <Arle> I'm not aware that offline mode makes any difference to how you join a server.
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#499 [09:26] <Straitis> I didn't think it would either
#500 [09:26] <Straitis> But when I set offline to true the sever goes dark
#501 [09:26] <Morrolan> Straitis - When joining an offline mode server, every player has the username "Player" by default. Now since usernames have to be unique, there can't be more than one on an offline mode server.
#502 [09:26] <DiskDaemon> Offline mode is just for playing on your local LAN
#503 [09:26] <Morrolan> There are tools to specify a username to use on offline mode servers, but you'll have to find them yourselves.
#504 [09:26] <Nexisone> I am having trouble logging into the website, I have changed my password it is still saying incorrect username and password
#505 [09:26] <Chris61> I cannot log in to mine craft.net as it says "can't connect to mine craft". Any solutions?
#506 [09:27] <Straitis> OKay
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#508 [09:27] <Straitis> I didn't mean that we both cannot join
#509 [09:27] <Straitis> I mean that the sever refuses to accept either of us straight out
#510 [09:27] <Morrolan> Straitis - What is the error you get when trying to connect?
#511 [09:28] <Morrolan> Chris61 - Does your Windows username (if you're on Windows) contain an exclamation mark or similar?
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#513 [09:28] <Straitis> Connection timed out: Connection
#514 [09:29] <Straitis> It's strange, I can see it via my internal ip, but the forwarded port refuses to show it.
#515 [09:29] <Straitis> Or connect
#516 [09:29] <Morrolan> You can connect via your internal IP, but via the external IP it doesn't work?
#517 [09:29] <Morrolan> Then your portforwarding isn't set up correctly.
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#519 [09:30] <Morrolan> Make sure the server is still using the same internal IP it used when you set up the rule.
#520 [09:30] <Straitis> Okay
#521 [09:30] <Straitis> So, how would changing offline-mode change the internal IP?
#522 [09:30] <Morrolan> It wouldn't, but rebooting the machine would.
#523 [09:31] <Straitis> When it's online mode, we cannot connect via the port
#524 [09:31] <Straitis> And the computer has not been shutdown.
#525 [09:31] <Morrolan> No matter whether offline mode or online mode, if you can't connect using your external IP, either the portforwarding isn't set up correctly, or there is security software blocking access.
#526 [09:31] <Chris61> I can't log in to mine craft as it says " can't verify mine craft.net or something like that
#527 [09:31] <Morrolan> Chris61 - What is the _exact_ error you get?
#528 [09:32] <Straitis> I can connect when it's online mode just fine, and so can he (to a degree)
#529 [09:34] <Morrolan> <Straitis> When it's online mode, we cannot connect via the port <-> <Straitis> I can connect when it's online mode just fine, and so can he (to a degree)
#530 [09:34] <Morrolan> You confuse me.
#531 [09:34] <Straitis> Yeah
#532 [09:34] <Straitis> Sorry
#533 [09:34] <Straitis> It's late
#534 [09:34] <Straitis> I shall realiterate
#535 [09:35] <Straitis> When we connect to the sever when it's on online mode, the sever appears just fine and I can connect. (not him, username issues) But when I change the sever to offline mode, it won't allow either of us to connect to the port we used when joining it in online mode.
#536 [09:36] <Chris61> You know the red word appears when you cannot connect to mine craft.net?
#537 [09:36] <Necrodoom> Straitis: he cant connect due to username issues?
#538 [09:36] <Chris61> That's whats happening to me
#539 [09:36] <Necrodoom> Straitis: what does that mean
#540 [09:37] <Chris61> The red word says cannot access mine craft.net
#541 [09:37] <Straitis> It means he's yet to make up his mind on whether or not he want to pay for the game.
#542 [09:37] <Chris61> I did pay already
#543 [09:37] <Straitis> Chris and I are having seperate issues
#544 [09:37] <Morrolan> Straitis - Just to make sure - When the server is in online mode, you connect using the external IP? (The one you get from ipchicken.org or similar)
#545 [09:37] <Straitis> Correct
#546 [09:37] <Chris> guys, please use the FULL nick, not mine, kthks
#547 [09:38] <Straitis> Sorry, didn't see you there.
#548 [09:38] <Morrolan> Chris61 - Does your Windows username contain an exclamation mark or similar?
#549 [09:38] <Morrolan> Straitis - And using that same IP doesn't work if the server is in offline mode?
#550 [09:38] <Chris61> And what does the force update button do?, because I accidentally click on that and does clicking that button deletes all my files in mine craft?
#551 [09:38] <Straitis> Morrolan, once again. Correct.
#552 [09:38] <Morrolan> Chris61 - Force update redownloads a fresh copy of the Minecraft files, in case you messed up your installation with mods etc.
#553 [09:39] <Necrodoom> Chris61: doesnt touch saves
#554 [09:39] <Morrolan> Straitis - That is certainly odd.
#555 [09:39] <Straitis> I quite agree...
#556 [09:39] <Chris61> So all my files are deleted?
#557 [09:39] <Necrodoom> Chris61: and redownloaded
#558 [09:39] <Chris61> In mine craft
#559 [09:39] <Necrodoom> Chris61: saves are untouched
#560 [09:39] <Chris61> Redownloaded means????
#561 [09:40] <Chris61> Saves are untouched
#562 [09:40] <Morrolan> Straitis - Do you get any error in the console when connecting to the server in offline mode fails?
#563 [09:40] <Morrolan> Any error other than "xyz lost connection", that is.
#564 [09:41] <Chris61> So I click on the force update button and I can't access mine craft?
#565 [09:41] <Straitis> No, all there is a lost connection
#566 [09:41] <Necrodoom> Chris61: the minecraft install is redownloaded, and reinstalled
#567 [09:41] <Necrodoom> Chris61: its not that effing hard to understand
#568 [09:41] <Straitis> I can see and connect to the sever using my internal IP though
#569 [09:41] <Straitis> So something is happening with the forward I think.
#570 [09:41] <Morrolan> Straitis - It... would seem so, yes.
#571 [09:42] <Chris61> Even if I acce
#572 [09:42] <Morrolan> Straitis - Kinda clueless about this issue, can only advise you to come back later (or just stay in here) and ask again, maybe someone else has an idea.
#573 [09:42] <Chris61> Even if I press that button,would I be able to play again?
#574 [09:42] <Morrolan> Chris61 - Once more. Does your Windows username contain an exclamation mark or similar?
#575 [09:42] <Morrolan> If it can't connect to minecraft.net - no.
#576 [09:42] <Straitis> Morrolan, I feel stupif for adding this in now (Like I said, it's late) I'm trying to run this through 1.3
#577 [09:43] <Straitis> This may be a bug
#578 [09:43] <Necrodoom> Chris61: yes, you can play
#579 [09:43] <Chris61> My username is mark821
#580 [09:43] <Morrolan> Chris61 - Your _windows_ username?
#581 [09:43] <Chris61> Uh
#582 [09:43] <Morrolan> Straitis - Might be, but would be a pretty unique one then, don't think I've seen this before. ^^
#583 [09:44] <Chris61> What's ctcp?
#584 [09:44] <Straitis> Great, at lease this hasn't been a rather stupid ID=10T error...
#585 [09:44] <Morrolan> Client to Client Protocol, Chris61. Nothing related to your issue.
#586 [09:44] <Morrolan> Statistics - Hehe.
#587 [09:45] <Chris61> I tried for 2 days and I can't log in,should I report it?
#588 [09:45] <Necrodoom> Chris61: can you focus and answer Morrolan's question?
#589 [09:45] <Morrolan> I don't think he can.
#590 [09:45] <Necrodoom> Chris61: you seem to be intended on avoiding it
#591 [09:45] <Straitis> >.<;
#592 [09:45] <Morrolan> I think I'll just go with
#593 [09:45] <Morrolan> ?? dont/bother
#594 [09:45] <VoxelHead> dont/bother: If you aren't going to listen to the advice from the volunteers here, don't ask for it in the first place.
#595 [09:45] <Morrolan> And off I go.
#596 [09:45] <Necrodoom> Chris61: now, again, are you using windows?
#597 [09:46] <Chris61> I am not
#598 [09:46] <Necrodoom> Chris61: what OS are you using then?
#599 [09:46] <Chris61> What's OS?
#600 [09:46] <Necrodoom> Opreating System
#601 [09:46] <Necrodoom> windows, linux, mac
#602 [09:47] <Chris61> Uh windows but I don't think I have a username
#603 [09:47] <Chris61> I did not use windows for a long time
#604 [09:47] <Necrodoom> Chris61: if you are using windows, then you have a username
#605 [09:48] <Chris61> Ok
#606 [09:48] <Necrodoom> Chris61: when you click the start button, do you see the username?
#607 [09:48] <Chris61> It does not contain any "!"
#608 [09:48] <Necrodoom> Chris61: what about @#$%^ or anything besides letters and spaces?
#609 [09:49] <Chris61> Don't have
#610 [09:50] <Chris61> No letters , spaces and the" $&@"
#611 [09:50] <DiskDaemon> Chris: Does yor launcher show a dirt background on the bottom, or a black background?
#612 [09:50] <Necrodoom> Chris61: no letters in your username?
#613 [09:50] * Chris glares at DiskDaemon a little
#613 [09:50] <Chris61> No letters
#614 [09:51] <DiskDaemon> Chris: This is about a dirt background on the bottom of the launcher.
#615 [09:51] <Necrodoom> Chris61: so your username has no letters, no symbols, and no spaces
#616 [09:51] <Chris61> Not at all
#617 [09:51] <Necrodoom> Chris61: you just said no to all 3
#618 [09:52] <Chris61> Right
#619 [09:52] <Necrodoom> Chris61: so your username is blank?
#620 [09:52] <chrisward> my windows username is all numbers o.o
#621 [09:53] <DiskDaemon> Chris61: May I find out whether you have a dirt background or a black background in the bottom section of the launcher?
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#623 [09:53] <Chris61> My windows username is.....wait....u mean when you start up your computer you have a button to click before you see all your folders like the home button on I pad?
#624 [09:53] <Necrodoom> fu
#625 [09:54] <Chris61> ???
#626 [09:54] <Morrolan> Yes, pretty much, Chris61. That's the one he wants to know.
#627 [09:55] <Chris61> If it is then it's " mummy!"
#628 [09:55] <Chris61> The one I use to play mine craft
#629 [09:55] <Morrolan> There's your issue, it contains an exlcamation mark.
#630 [09:55] <DiskDaemon> There we go!
#631 [09:55] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: When it's an exclamation mark or special character issue that's causing the issue, that causes the bottom area of the launcher to go black. That's an easy symptom to check.
#632 [09:55] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/!
#633 [09:55] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#634 [09:55] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#635 [09:55] <Chris61> With no dirt background
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#637 [09:56] <Necrodoom> Chris61: read what voxelhead said
#638 [09:56] <zack_> i need help mojang wont contact me back about my refund
#639 [09:56] <Morrolan> zack_ - a) They are working on mails from two months ago, currently b) they rarely give out refunds c) none of us works for MOjang. :)
#640 [09:56] <DiskDaemon> zack_: You didn't purchase multiple games at the same time did you?
#641 [09:56] <Morrolan> If you _really_ want a refund, dispute the payment with your credit card provider.
#642 [09:57] <zack_> no my little brother bought it without my permission
#643 [09:57] <Morrolan> Then dispute the payment through PayPal / your credit card provider.
#644 [09:57] <zack_> idkwat to do
#645 [09:57] <zack_> kk
#646 [09:57] <Chris61> I have no windows username
#647 [09:58] <Chris61> Sorry
#648 [09:58] <Morrolan> Ofcourse you do, you just said that it's "mummy!"
#649 [09:58] <DiskDaemon> zack_: You live with the problem that your litle brother caused. You now have a spare account that can be used too. Contratulations
#650 [09:58] <Chris61> That's the user not the username
#651 [09:58] <Necrodoom> Chris61: same exact thing
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#653 [09:59] <Chris61> So how to fix the problem?
#654 [09:59] <Necrodoom> ?? win/!
#655 [09:59] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#656 [09:59] <Chris61> Because I want to play ASAP
#657 [09:59] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#658 [09:59] <Necrodoom> Chris61: read what voxelhead says
#659 [09:59] <Morrolan> Three people told you to follow Vox's instructions already.
#660 [09:59] <DiskDaemon> Necrodoom: Would it help if he can pastebin the result of pinging somewhere from the command prompt?
#661 [09:59] <Chris61> No. Mummy!! Is the USER not the USERNAME
#662 [10:00] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: im not the expert >.<
#663 [10:00] <Necrodoom> Chris61: wat
#664 [10:00] <Morrolan> Yes, Chris61, it's the name of your windows user.
#665 [10:00] <Morrolan> Therefore, USERNAME
#666 [10:00] <Chris61> Name not username
#667 [10:00] <DiskDaemon> Chris61: The computer username is the cause of the problem. Not the minecraft username
#668 [10:00] <Chris61> User not username
#669 [10:00] <Morrolan> Is "Mummy!" the name you sign in to Windows with?
#670 [10:01] <Chris61> Yes...not username
#671 [10:01] <Morrolan> Yes, and YOUR WINDOWS USER IS THE CULPRIT.
#672 [10:01] <Chris61> Mummy!! Is the USER
#673 [10:01] <Morrolan> So, either follow Voxelhead's instructions, or get the fuck out.
#674 [10:01] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon / Necrodoom - Does any of you feel like continuing this?
#675 [10:01] <Morrolan> IF not, I'll get rid of him.
#676 [10:02] <Morrolan> If yes - congratualtions, your reservoir of patience is bigger than mine.
#677 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> No, I'm good.
#678 [10:02] <DiskDaemon> We know the problem he's having, and have a working solution for him. It's up to him to decide to do something about it.
#679 [10:03] <Chris61> I must not delete it or else I will delete everything inside the com
#680 [10:03] <Morrolan> Very well. Here is the solution, one last time. Follow it, and the issue will resolve itself:
#681 [10:03] <Morrolan> ?? win/!
#682 [10:03] <VoxelHead> win/!: Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#683 [10:03] <VoxelHead> win/!: Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#684 [10:04] * VoxelHead kicked Chris61 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: hris61 :Banned: Refused to follow instructions provided to him, and his behaviour could use some work too.)
#685 [10:05] <Morrolan> For the record, it's a temporary ban, lasting two days.
#686 [10:06] <Morrolan> Makes me wonder whether that was a troll.
#687 [10:06] <Morrolan> Or just a stubborn user.
#688 [10:07] <DiskDaemon> Or just pre-pubescent
#689 [10:07] <Morrolan> Maybe.
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#691 [10:20] <bobo> hi
#692 [10:20] <bobo> hello
#693 [10:21] <bobo> hhi
#694 [10:21] <bobo> hi
#695 [10:21] <bobo> hi
#696 [10:21] <bobo> hihih
#697 [10:21] <Calinou> lol
#698 [10:21] <Calinou> putting this into funniest quotes
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#706 [10:54] <ImaProNinjaMiner> Can you purchase Minecraft with a prepaid credit card
#707 [10:54] <Morrolan> Most prepaid cards can't be used for international purchases.
#708 [10:55] <Morrolan> You could call your credit card provider and ask them whether they can unlock it, but it's doubtful they will / can / want.
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#710 [10:55] <Sentack> Hello people, anyone awake?
#711 [10:56] <ImaProNinjaMiner> Thank you very much i appreciate that moirrolan
#712 [10:56] <ImaProNinjaMiner> morrolan*
#713 [10:56] <Sentack> I'm curious if anyone else has had problems trying to install Red Stone 2 & IC2 Mods client side.
#714 [10:56] <Morrolan> ImaProNinjaMiner - Sure thing. :)
#715 [10:56] <Morrolan> Sentack - Your best bet is to ask in that mod's forum thread, respectively in its IRC channel, if it has one.
#716 [10:56] <Morrolan> There you'll find people who actually know their way around that mod.
#717 [10:57] <Sentack> My google-fu didn't provide me the name of one.
#718 [10:57] <Sentack> Hence I checked in here to see if I could get a hand, if nobody minded.
#719 [10:57] <Morrolan> Then chances are they don't have an IRC channel.
#720 [10:57] <Morrolan> And sure, feel free to idle in here, maybe someone has an idea.
#721 [10:57] <Sentack> Thanks.
#722 [10:58] <Morrolan> But chances of getting an answer might be bigger on the forum. :)
#723 [10:58] <Sentack> The odd part is, I searched the forum and someone brought up the issue, but the answer was "Change something in the config file" but when I check the config file, the value that needs to be 'changed' doesn't exist. Hence my confusion.
#724 [11:00] <Sentack> Here's a question that is relevant to all versions of minecraft. Does the game run better on a 64-bit version operating system then a 32-bit?
#725 [11:01] <Morrolan> It does.
#726 [11:04] <Sentack> Okay, another question. Does running Minecraft as a server, say as a local lan set up, take any/most of the work off the client version?
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#728 [11:04] <Sentack> So say, I run Minecraft on a linux box, and the log in locally from my windows machine.
#729 [11:05] <Sentack> Would the linux server have to deal more with the pathing AI, building world data and lighting, compared to my client. So would save my client machine processing time.
#730 [11:07] <Necrodoom> so chris61 guy managed to solve his userphobia?
#731 [11:08] <Morrolan> From Minecraft 1.3 on it should improve performance, yes. Since 1.3 moved large parts of the client's code to the server, removing redundant code. (Singleplayer is basically multiplayer on a locally hosted server now)
#732 [11:08] <Morrolan> Necrodoom - No, I banned him. ^.^
#733 [11:08] <Morrolan> Maybe he actually took the time to follow Vox's instructions afterwards, I wouldn't know.
#734 [11:08] <Jervfors> Hi Calinou. I haven't had any more problems since changing the the settings, so that must have done the trick. Thanks again.
#735 [11:09] <Sentack> This isn't true for version 1.2.5?
#736 [11:09] <Sentack> The server/client load thing.
#737 [11:09] <Morrolan> It is, but not to such an extent.
#738 [11:09] <Sentack> Okay.
#739 [11:09] <Calinou> np
#740 [11:09] <Morrolan> With 1.2.5 the server will handle world generation, which will take quite some load from the client, and mob AI. (Which isn't that performance-intensive I believe)
#741 [11:09] <Sentack> Now I have to see how difficult it is to set up a minecraft server. And then see how difficult it is to install mods.
#742 [11:10] <Morrolan> Optionally you can choose to let the server calculate the lightning as well, but I've had some bad experience with that.
#743 [11:10] <Morrolan> Setting up a server is pretty straight-forward, if you have some basic knowledge of your operating system and networking.
#744 [11:10] <Sentack> Well my problem lately has been that, if I play in a very very dense area (lots of trees and random mobs) the game suddenly slows to an absolute crawl, to the point where it's unplayable.
#745 [11:10] <Sentack> Server handles mob Pathfinding too, I assume. Which can also be a CPU drain.
#746 [11:11] <Morrolan> I assume there's some data somewhere, regarding what takes the most CPU power. Wouldn't know of any source of the top of my head though.
#747 [11:12] <Morrolan> With leaves the issue might also be transparency I guess.
#748 [11:12] <Sentack> Hm, transparencies would be client side of course.
#749 [11:12] <Morrolan> Yep.
#750 [11:12] <Morrolan> You could try to set graphics to "fast" and check whether that helps.
#751 [11:13] <Sentack> I'm about to do that now.
#752 [11:14] <Calinou> "and mob AI. (Which isn't that performance-intensive I believe)"
#753 [11:15] <Calinou> it is... there are lots of mobs in a MC world
#754 [11:15] <Calinou> probably one of the most resource-intensive parts of a MC server, due to the lack of an "inactive" state for far-away mobs
#755 [11:15] <Necrodoom> around 200 at any given time, i think?
#756 [11:15] <Morrolan> Okay then.
#757 [11:15] <Necrodoom> per player
#758 [11:15] <Calinou> mobs that are more than 32 blocks away shouldn't even move IMO
#759 [11:15] <Calinou> this would save lots of CPU
#760 [11:18] <Sentack> I just changed a ton of settings to see if that would help.
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#762 [11:18] <Sentack> I feel silly now that I never bothered to change my graphics settings, including enabling Advanced OpenGL. Not sure if that one will help though.
#763 [11:18] <Kiljen> Hey, could anyone help me ?
#764 [11:19] <Morrolan> Will take some load from the GPU and add some to the CPU.
#765 [11:19] <Morrolan> Kiljen - Just ask your question, and you shall see.
#766 [11:19] <Kiljen> I've bought Minecraft maby one year ago, now i want to play it again, but i get the message "User not premium"
#767 [11:19] <Kiljen> What can i do ?
#768 [11:20] <Morrolan> Did you buy it from www.minecraft.net ?
#769 [11:20] <Kiljen> y
#770 [11:20] <Kiljen> via paypal
#771 [11:20] <Morrolan> Are you 100% sure that you are trying to log in with the correct username?
#772 [11:20] <Kiljen> y, i can login on the minecraft page with the same
#773 [11:20] <Morrolan> But are you sure that it's the account you bought premium for?
#774 [11:21] <Kiljen> y
#775 [11:21] <Sentack> Is there a way tot ell what minecraft is spending all it's time on? I just started it and oh god is it slow still.
#776 [11:21] <Morrolan> Okay. Then check with PayPal whether, for some reason, they undid the payment.
#777 [11:21] <Kiljen> hm...... okay
#778 [11:21] <Morrolan> Sentack - F3 (Debug mode) has some graph, and the wiki has an explanation of that one.
#779 [11:21] <Kiljen> i will check
#780 [11:22] <Morrolan> Kiljen - I'll have to leave now, but...
#781 [11:22] <Morrolan> ... check this page for further solutions: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-i-was-premium-now-i-m-not-
#782 [11:22] <GreyVulpine> kiljen left
#783 [11:22] <Morrolan> If he returns, be so kind and show him that page.
#784 [11:22] <Morrolan> Yes, GreyVulpine, I noticed.
#785 [11:22] * GreyVulpine waves
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#786 [11:23] <Calinou> Sentack, F3, see the profiler
#787 [11:24] <Calinou> you can see more detailed graphs by pressing the corresponding key (try to press "1" on your keyboard and see)
#788 [11:24] <Sentack> Got it, Looks like I might have a memory allocation issue.
#789 [11:24] <Calinou> allocating LESS memory can make the game run faster, as your computer will not swap to disk
#790 [11:24] <Calinou> if you're on linux, you can also decrease the swappiness
#791 [11:25] <Sentack> Less memory? interesting.
#792 [11:25] <Sentack> I'm on windows xp, sadly.
#793 [11:26] <Calinou> see this: http://pastebin.com/kMuYdYtt
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#795 [11:29] <Ubuntuuser> I'm running Ubuntu and the client will not install, I've followed all advice on the wiki
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#799 [11:39] <Gunni3> hi guys, i got a problem with my new pc/probably grafixcard: i have a gtx570 and whenever i start playing minecraft it takes a few minutes and it starts to get long freezes
#800 [11:39] <Gunni3> in forum i read to just turn off opengl in videosettings but it didnt work
#801 [11:39] <Gunni3> does anybody have ideas how to fix it?
#802 [11:40] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#803 [11:40] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#804 [11:40] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#805 [11:40] <Calinou> Gunni3, do what VoxelHead says
#806 [11:42] <Gunni3> http://pastebin.com/fHmZPpxa
#807 [11:43] <Calinou> O_o your amount of RAM
#808 [11:43] <Calinou> Gunni3, singleplayer or multiplayer?
#809 [11:43] <Sentack> Okay, interesting. That F3 Profile is very useful.
#810 [11:43] <Calinou> in singleplayer, occasionally, small freezes do happen, unfortunately
#811 [11:43] <Sentack> RIght now, it's telling me that 90% of my CPU time is consumed by Render.
#812 [11:43] <Gunni3> single
#813 [11:44] <Calinou> not much can be done to fix this; the world is saved every two seconds. the save interval can be changed using the Optifine mod, but its installation is not supported in this channel
#814 [11:44] <Sentack> Wait, my bad, I mean 70% by 'tick'.
#815 [11:44] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/249637-125-optifine-hd-c6-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and-much-more/ < if you still want to install it
#816 [11:45] <Sentack> tick 80% -> Level 92% of that. Hmmm.
#817 [11:45] <Gunni3> yeah well its not that i have like short spikes, it freezes for 10sec and then i see the next picture
#818 [11:45] <Gunni3> diashow
#819 [11:45] <Sentack> Entities taking up 74% of that. Ticktiles is taking up 23%. This is really interesting information. but what does it mean?
#820 [11:47] <Sentack> But interestingly enough, after toning down the graphics settings a ton, the game isn't experiencing that really odd stuttering like before. So I think my major problems were just 'I had the graphics set way to high for my box'.
#821 [11:52] <Sentack> Now to find out how to get RedStone Power 2 and IC2 installed together.
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#823 [11:57] <Calinou> Gunni3, running any other resource-intensive processes?
#824 [11:58] <Gunni3> not really
#825 [11:58] <Calinou> http://pastebin.com/kMuYdYtt < you could try allocating less memory; also, what antivirus are you using?
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#829 [12:08] <Peter> Hello?
#830 [12:09] <Calinou> Guest88964, hi?
#831 [12:09] <Calinou> you were renamed... someone already registered the name "Peter". you can change your name using /nick your_name
#832 [12:10] <Guest88964> It is okay. That is not my problem
#833 [12:10] <Guest88964> My problem is Minecraft
#834 [12:11] <Guest88964> Minecraft has suddenly started to lag on my macbook air and I do now know why. Anyone help?
#835 [12:12] <Calinou> first, terminology - "lag" designates "latency" which occurs in multiplayer only, while "slow performance" is probably a more correct term
#836 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Installed any mods? Any HD texture packs?
#837 [12:12] <GreyVulpine> Did you recently install any other programs/applications?
#838 [12:12] <Calinou> pretty much any mac computer has low-end video cards, most of the time, and CPUs
#839 [12:13] <Guest88964> Sorry then. I mean minecraft has started to run slow on my macbook. I have installed only one texture pack and no HD. It has been a long time, since i last time installed a program on my mac
#840 [12:14] <Calinou> Guest88964, what is your render distance? is "advanced opengl" enabled?
#841 [12:14] <GreyVulpine> Have you tried turning down some of the graphics options in minecraft, see if that changes anything?
#842 [12:16] <Guest88964> First time i played minecraft it also ran slow, but then i turned down some of the graphics options, and turned advanced opengl on. Then it did not run so slow. But now it has started to run slow again, and I have not changed the options.
#843 [12:17] <Calinou> disable advanced opengl and see. it can eat a lot of CPU ;)
#844 [12:18] <Guest88964> Well I have actually tried that, and it then it stops running slow for a while, but when the world is fully loaded it starts to run slow again
#845 [12:21] <Guest88964> I forgot to mention one thing which also annoys me. When I lauch minecraft it takes some time before the login screen opens. And it was not like that in the start
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#847 [12:27] <Duzter> Hi
#848 [12:27] <Duzter> i bought minecraft quite a while ago.. but i havent played it in a while.. but now i have to buy it again ?
#849 [12:28] <Duzter> PM me please if you have any info :)
#850 [12:29] <Necrodoom> Duzter: no
#851 [12:30] <Necrodoom> Duzter: if you buy, it sticks forever
#852 [12:30] <TheNoodle> Duzter, where did you purchase minecraft?
#853 [12:30] <Necrodoom> or, untill MC dies
#854 [12:30] <Necrodoom> what ever comes sooner
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#857 [12:54] <killer2> Hi, everyone. I want to know if the minecraft will have PAYSAFECARD, to bought the game. Cause here, in portugal, is complicated to buy it. So, anyone have any ideia about it?
#858 [12:54] <killer2> Hi, everyone. I want to know if the minecraft will have PAYSAFECARD, to bought the game. Cause here, in portugal, is complicated to buy it. So, anyone have any ideia about it?
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#860 [12:55] <Calinou> no, probably... DAMN IT
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#862 [12:56] <Calinou> hi
#863 [12:56] <killer2> hi
#864 [12:56] <Calinou> no, and it's unlikely it will ever be supported
#865 [12:56] <killer2> buh..
#866 [12:56] <killer2> its the most safe mode to buy it
#867 [12:56] <killer2> but ok..
#868 [12:56] <Calinou> why "safe"?
#869 [12:56] <killer2> thanks anyway
#870 [12:56] <killer2> because u buy it
#871 [12:57] <killer2> in a payshop..
#872 [12:57] <Calinou> if you're that worried about safety, you shouldn't even connect to the internet
#873 [12:57] <killer2> its the only way to have it
#874 [12:57] <Calinou> no, you can use a regular credit card or paypal
#875 [12:57] <killer2> but in portugal that is rare.
#876 [12:57] <killer2> to have one
#877 [12:57] <killer2> only visa and paypal, its to expencsive
#878 [12:58] <killer2> i will never have the minecraft buh.
#879 [12:58] <killer2> i will never have the minecraft buh.
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#882 [13:04] <Duzter> sry for late answer hat to take a shower xD well it bought it at the minecraft site.. when it was in alpha or beta stage...
#883 [13:07] <Duzter> and ya if ive bought it i shuld have it for life..
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#891 [13:57] <nikdo0nikde> hi
#892 [13:58] <papascrumptious> does anybody k ow how to make water not freeze?
#893 [13:59] <papascrumptious> ???
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#896 [14:02] <LordManzana> Hi, anyone can help me in spanish?
#897 [14:03] <Iaccidentally> i havent spoken spanish in years...
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#899 [14:03] <moonofevil> hey
#900 [14:03] <moonofevil> my sound for minecraft wont work.
#901 [14:03] <LordManzana> Ok, np. My english is bad
#902 [14:04] <moonofevil> its nothing to do with my speakers
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#904 [14:04] <moonofevil> i deleted .minecraft and it regened but still sound didnt work.
#905 [14:04] <moonofevil> can anyone help?
#906 [14:05] <LordManzana> when i try run minecraft, client close and create one file. The name of file is "hs_err_pidXXX" when XXX is a random numbers
#907 [14:05] <LordManzana> how can i fix it?
#908 [14:05] <moonofevil> how can i fix my problem?
#909 [14:05] <moonofevil> Oh nvm
#910 [14:06] <LordManzana> this is a help chat or one tomb? -.-'
#911 [14:07] <LordManzana> how can i contact with game support
#912 [14:07] <Grim_Reaper> http://help.mojang.com
#913 [14:07] <LordManzana> how can i create one ticket on this web?
#914 [14:08] <LordManzana> i only can read articles, but i can't contact with one person...
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#916 [14:10] <LordManzana> minecraft have ticket support? or only articles in help.mojang.com?
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#918 [14:11] <kenny_> can someone help me i have no sound when i am playing minecraft
#919 [14:11] <LordManzana> kenny, any help on this chat.
#920 [14:11] <LordManzana> bye
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#924 [14:17] <jasonR> im having proplems with my sound. i am using the 1.3 prerelease right now can some one provide me a link to download the sound files? thanks
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#935 [14:45] <nickthemaster22> can u get urmoney back cuzz it not working formypc
#936 [14:45] <TechnoBlaze> My Minecraft won't connect to any online Minecraft services, including the changelog at startup. It also asks if I want to update, and when I click Yes, it says Fatal error occurred (4): Permission denied: connect
#937 [14:47] <TechnoBlaze> My Minecraft won't connect to any online Minecraft services, including the changelog at startup. It also asks if I want to update, and when I click Yes, it says Fatal error occurred (4): Permission denied: connect
#938 [14:47] <Morrolan> Sounds like security software to me.
#939 [14:47] <Morrolan> Could also be Java 7, but check your security software first.
#940 [14:48] <TechnoBlaze> i checked the firewall. nothing
#941 [14:48] <TechnoBlaze> even reinstalled minecraft and Java
#942 [14:48] <TechnoBlaze> same result
#943 [14:48] <Morrolan> Are you running any security software beyond your firewall?
#944 [14:48] <Morrolan> Avira, AVG, Norton, McAfee, you name it.
#945 [14:49] <TechnoBlaze> there is Norton
#946 [14:49] <Morrolan> Make sure it doesn't block the Minecraft launcher then.
#947 [14:53] <TechnoBlaze> i need to restart my computer to apply it
#948 [14:53] <TechnoBlaze> i need to restart my computer to apply it
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#950 [14:54] <Morrolan> Huh.
#951 [14:54] <Morrolan> I wonder what exactly he applied.
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#954 [15:05] <TechnoBlaze> i'm still getting the same error
#955 [15:09] <TechnoBlaze> Minecraft is giving me: "Fatal error occured (4): Permission denied: connect"
#956 [15:13] <Morrolan> What version of Java are you using? (You can find out on http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp)
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#958 [15:19] <Guest90621> every time i play minecraft i get an out of memory error is there a way you can fix this
#959 [15:20] <Morrolan> If you're on a 64 bit OS, make sure you're using 64 bit Java.
#960 [15:20] <Morrolan> Apart from that, launch it with additional RAM.
#961 [15:21] <Guest90621> i have windows 7 home with core i-7 and 18 gb of ram
#962 [15:21] <Morrolan> win+pause/break -> System Type -> Does it says "32 bit Operating System" or "64-bit Operating system"?
#963 [15:23] <Morrolan> It's most likely a 64 bit OS, seeing as you have 18 GB of RAM, but you never know what computer manufacturers think.
#964 [15:23] <Guest90621> its 64bit
#965 [15:24] <Morrolan> Okay. Then check what version of Java you're using. Open a command promt (type "cmd" (no quotes) in the start menu, hit enter), and then enter "java -version" (again, no quotes) in there.
#966 [15:25] <Morrolan> Hit enter, what does it say?
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#968 [15:26] <Guest90621> wont do anything
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#970 [15:26] <Guest90621> ahhhhhhhh
#971 [15:27] <TechnoBlaze> Norton crashed and i had to restsrt again to fix it.
#972 [15:27] <Guest90621> its a 32bit java
#973 [15:27] <Denizen> don't use norton
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#975 [15:28] <Morrolan> Guest90621 - Then install 64 bit Java from here: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
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#977 [15:28] <Morrolan> Make sure to grab the 64 bit installer.
#978 [15:29] <Guest90621> ok and that should fix the out of memory thing
#979 [15:29] <TechnoBlaze> our other minecraft computer has Norton and is perfectly fine. No errors of any kind, other than the normal processor drain from the 3d rendering thing
#980 [15:30] <proabdo> Hi I have a question...
#981 [15:30] <Morrolan> Guest90621 - If it doesn't you can launch it with additional memory. If need be we can show you how.
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#983 [15:30] <Morrolan> TechnoBlaze - What version of Java are you using?
#984 [15:30] <Morrolan> Guest90621 - If it still doesn't work, you can launch*
#985 [15:31] <TechnoBlaze> version 7 update 5
#986 [15:31] <TechnoBlaze> 32 and 644 bit version
#987 [15:31] <TechnoBlaze> *64
#988 [15:31] <Guest90621> version 7 update 5 of what
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#991 [15:32] <Morrolan> Chances are it's Java 7 causing the issue then. Grab the .jar launcher from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar?237542925277304 and the .bat file from https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15421087/Minecraft/%23Minecrafthelp/run_ipv4.bat
#992 [15:32] <TechnoBlaze> Java
#993 [15:32] <hverbos> Can someone help me?
#994 [15:32] <Morrolan> TechnoBlaze - Once you got those two files, save them in the same folder and doubleclick the .bat file. Check if it works.
#995 [15:32] <TechnoBlaze> i'll try it
#996 [15:32] <Morrolan> hverbos - Just ask.
#997 [15:32] <proabdo> I have a problem, every time I open up minecraft, it works, but when I select a world and attempt to play it it loads but then automatically closes
#998 [15:33] <proabdo> Hello?
#999 [15:33] <hverbos> I wanted to start over with Minecraft, so I deleted it and the main folder. When I redownloaded Minecraft and went to open the folder, it wasn't there.
#1000 [15:34] <proabdo> Heellllllooooooooooooooooooooo?!?!?!?!?!?
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#1002 [15:34] <Guest90621> ok it workwd now i have another qution i have a name but it always makes me logn in with my email how can i change that to my user name
#1003 [15:34] <proabdo> Anyone there?
#1004 [15:35] <Morrolan> Guest90621 - You can't, it's a security feature.
#1005 [15:35] <proabdo> Ayaya
#1006 [15:35] <Morrolan> Your name will show up on servers etc, but to log in you will have to use your mail address.
#1007 [15:35] <DylanMc93> Hello, Can someone help me please. I cant seem to pay for the game. I'm using paypal but it jut keeps erroring out, ive tried a few browsers and machines.
#1008 [15:36] <Guest90621> ok now how do i make a server
#1009 [15:36] <TechnoBlaze> check minecraftwiki.net
#1010 [15:36] <proabdo> Hello, I have a promlem
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#1012 [15:37] <proabdo> sorry, problem, not promlem
#1013 [15:37] <DylanMc93> ?
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#1016 [15:37] <Morrolan> proabdo - Does it happen if you create a new world too?
#1017 [15:38] <proabdo> Yes
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#1019 [15:38] <Morrolan> Then try to force an update: Start the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual.
#1020 [15:38] <hverbos> I wanted to start Minecraft over, so I deleted Minecraft and the main folder. I redownloaded Minecraft, but when I went to open the main folder, it wasn't there.
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#1022 [15:38] <Morrolan> DylanMc93 - We can't really help much with payment-related issues. I'd advise you to contact PayPal.
#1023 [15:38] <proabdo> Thanks , I will ytry it out
#1024 [15:39] <Morrolan> DylanMc93 - Normally PayPal is one of those payment methods which have the biggest chance of success. :/
#1025 [15:39] <DylanMc93> Its not a paypal issue though, its clearly a issue on the minecraft end
#1026 [15:39] <Morrolan> hverbos - What main folder isn't there anymore?
#1027 [15:39] <Morrolan> DylanMc93 - How can you tell?
#1028 [15:39] <proabdo> oops, try, not ytry
#1029 [15:39] <proabdo> oops, try, not ytry
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#1032 [15:39] <DylanMc93> I have used the paypal merchant api in the past.
#1033 [15:40] <hverbos> The folder that contains all the Minecraft info and where you install mods, texture packs, etc.
#1034 [15:40] <TechnoBlaze> the .minescraft folder?
#1035 [15:40] <TechnoBlaze> *.minecraft
#1036 [15:40] <hverbos> yes
#1037 [15:40] <avadakedavrra> help when i join a coop game on same xbox i cannot move my head my character just looks straight
#1038 [15:40] <Morrolan> avadakedavrra - Change your gamer tag.
#1039 [15:41] <Morrolan> (Yes, seriously, had someone with that same issue in here a few days ago)
#1040 [15:41] <Morrolan> hverbos - You have to first start the launcher and log in, then it will redownload the needed files.
#1041 [15:41] <avadakedavrra> thats it?? that ur answer
#1042 [15:41] <hverbos> okay, thank you very much!
#1043 [15:41] <DylanMc93> Morrolan - After doing a lot of Googleing I also hear minecraft support never answer.
#1044 [15:42] <Morrolan> DylanMc93 - Mojang support _does_ answer, but they are backlogged by two months, currently.
#1045 [15:42] <Morrolan> avadakedavrra - Well, I can only relay what that other guy told me was the solution.
#1046 [15:42] <proabdo> no, still not working
#1047 [15:42] <Morrolan> Try it out. If it works - splendid. If not - no clue.
#1048 [15:42] <avadakedavrra> ok
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#1050 [15:43] <DylanMc93> Morrolan - Kind of a let down considering im trying to give them money :P
#1051 [15:43] <Morrolan> DylanMc93 - Apart from that, check with your credit card provider if the payment went though, or whether they blocked it. (It's an international payment, US-based providers tend not to like that)
#1052 [15:43] <Morrolan> Lastly you could try to pay using Moneybookers instead of PayPal.
#1053 [15:44] <Morrolan> And, well, that backlog is there ,whether we like it or not, we'll have to sit it out until they caught up. ^^
#1054 [15:44] <Morrolan> And, well, that backlog is there ,whether we like it or not, we'll have to sit it out until they caught up. ^^
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#1056 [15:44] <Morrolan> proabdo - *sigh*, those issues are the worst.
#1057 [15:44] <Morrolan> Reinstalling Java would be worth a shot.
#1058 [15:45] <proabdo> Thanks, I'll have a go
#1059 [15:45] <DylanMc93> Morrolan - I've checked with paypal and have bought other internation products since.
#1060 [15:46] <Morrolan> Then you're out of luck.
#1061 [15:46] <Morrolan> Told you the known culprits, if it's none of these, you'll have to go dig yourself, or contact Mojang I guess.
#1062 [15:46] <TechnoBlaze> My problem might have something to do with the s\fact that I've been using snapshots updates and pre-releases. I just now read the top of the chat page. Anyone know how I can downgrade to 1.2.5?
#1063 [15:46] <TechnoBlaze> *fact
#1064 [15:47] <Morrolan> TechnoBlaze - Simply start the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual.
#1065 [15:47] <Morrolan> Force update will downgrade to the latest stable version, which currently still is 1.2.5
#1066 [15:47] <TechnoBlaze> tried that...
#1067 [15:47] <TechnoBlaze> same error from before
#1068 [15:47] <Morrolan> What happened if you tried the .bat file I provided you with?
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#1070 [15:48] <TechnoBlaze> I didn't know where to put the.bat file you provided
#1071 [15:48] <Morrolan> In the same folder as the .jar launcher from minecraft.net
#1072 [15:48] <TechnoBlaze> ok. i'll try it
#1073 [15:49] <Morrolan> Mind you that I am NOT talking about the .jar in .minecraft/bin, but about the one from www.minecraft.net/download
#1074 [15:49] <Morrolan> Just put the .jar launcher and the .bat file on your desktop or similar.
#1075 [15:49] <TechnoBlaze> ok
#1076 [15:50] <TechnoBlaze> same result
#1077 [15:50] <TechnoBlaze> wait...
#1078 [15:51] <TechnoBlaze> which one do I click to start it?
#1079 [15:51] <Morrolan> The .bat file.
#1080 [15:51] <proabdo> *long sigh* still
#1081 [15:51] <TechnoBlaze> IT WORKED!!! Thank you!
#1082 [15:52] <Morrolan> TechnoBlaze - Ah, good to hear. In this case, just launch it through that .bat file from now on, and you should be fine. :)
#1083 [15:52] <Morrolan> (Until Mojang fixes it, then you'll be able to launch it just like before)
#1084 [15:52] <Morrolan> proabdo - Odd. You could try to launch it through the terminal / command prompt, then we'd get a detailed error which might help.
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#1086 [15:53] <bildramer> or add a "pause" line
#1087 [15:53] <proabdo> Uhh, whats a terminal
#1088 [15:53] <Morrolan> proabdo - Grab the .jar launcher from www.minecraft.net/download and this .bat file: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15421087/Minecraft/%23Minecrafthelp/run_minecraft.bat and save them in the same folder.
#1089 [15:54] <proabdo> Alright, I'll try it out
#1090 [15:54] <Morrolan> proabdo - Then start the .bat file by doubleclicking it. Once loading the world fails there'll be an error in there.
#1091 [15:54] <Morrolan> RIght click the console -> select all -> hit enter. Then go to www.pastebin.com and paste ( ctrl-v) the error log in there.
#1092 [15:54] <Morrolan> Finally, provide us with the error message.
#1093 [15:54] <Morrolan> Now I'll be afk for the next hour or two, but just put the URL in here and wait a bit, until someone else has the time to assist you.
#1094 [15:55] <proabdo> Oh,wait, there's more?
#1095 [15:55] <Morrolan> Launching it through the console makes an error message show up, which then might help someone to find out your issue.
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#1097 [15:55] <Rallic> hey
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#1099 [15:56] <proabdo> OK thanks
#1100 [15:56] <Rallic> is it possible to change the email address associated with my Minecraft account?
#1101 [15:56] <marcgarc> hello, I'm trying to purchase minecraft and paypal isn't working. After talking to them they told me i could bypass the problem by getting an invoice. I Don't know who to ask for one.
#1102 [15:57] <proabdo> but wait, which folder do I drag the launcher and the ... other thing into
#1103 [15:57] <Rallix> marcgarc have you been charged yet?
#1104 [15:58] <marcgarc> no, the charge won't go through. Their service representative told me it was due to a security thing, and that I could pay if the merchant (minecraft) would give me an invoice.
#1105 [16:03] <proabdo> uhoh, I just realized that afk stands for some thing like "I'll be gone for a while"
#1106 [16:03] <proabdo> I think
#1107 [16:03] <proabdo> (darn)
#1108 [16:03] <Rallix> @proabdo afk = Away From Keyboard
#1109 [16:04] <proabdo> Oh
#1110 [16:04] <proabdo> I'm guessing, same thing?
#1111 [16:04] <Rallix> @marcgarc You may need to speak to your card company if it's to do with the security check. I know many people who have that issue with Verified by Visa and Mastercard Secure Pay
#1112 [16:05] <proabdo> Whateve's, I'll wait 'till he comes 'round
#1113 [16:06] <Rallix> yeah, it's the same thing
#1114 [16:07] <proabdo> OK, just clearing it up
#1115 [16:07] <Rallix> I take it nobody can help with my issue
#1116 [16:07] <Rallix> [20:56] <Rallic> is it possible to change the email address associated with my Minecraft account?
#1117 [16:08] <proabdo> Well hey, I'm just waiting for this "Morrolan" guy
#1118 [16:09] <proabdo> he's the one helping me out
#1119 [16:09] <Rallix> He has an "@" so I take it he's pretty knowledgable
#1120 [16:09] <Rallix> that or it's just that he has an @ in his name which would be unlikely
#1121 [16:09] <Rallix> :P
#1122 [16:10] <proabdo> eh, don't get it
#1123 [16:10] <Rallix> nvm
#1124 [16:11] <proabdo> ':/
#1125 [16:12] <proabdo> my god, I'm so bored
#1126 [16:13] <proabdo> How long is he afk?
#1127 [16:15] <proabdo> what was that?!
#1128 [16:16] <proabdo> I'm gunna go do some thing in another window, tell me if he's back
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#1130 [16:22] <proabdo> just checking, still?
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#1132 [16:22] <proabdo> >:(
#1133 [16:22] <proabdo> not cool
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#1135 [16:24] <antoniss95> Hello, i have a problem with Minecraft and i have tried a lot of different ways to fix them but the problem still remain.Every time I try to login from client, it says "Can't connect to minecraft.net" even though I have not put anything in the fieldsor different names. Futhermore i can connect from browser normally.
#1136 [16:24] <antoniss95> Also i have checked: Hosts, Java, Re-install, New user account, firewall...
#1137 [16:25] <Disori> antoniss95, disable your antivirus and try again
#1138 [16:25] <Disori> !down minecraft.net
#1139 [16:25] <GreyBot> Disori: It's just you. http://minecraft.net is up.
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#1141 [16:25] <harrysharp23> Hello
#1142 [16:25] <antoniss95> I know i up man, I will try with my antivirus disabled
#1143 [16:26] <Disori> Hello Harry
#1144 [16:26] <harrysharp23> Does anyone know when the mincon dates are?
#1145 [16:27] <antoniss95> @Disori - Same
#1146 [16:27] <antoniss95> I don't know what to do, i have tried all solutions that i found but nothing
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#1148 [16:32] <ninjadog> i have a server but people cant join does anyone have any info that can help me
#1149 [16:34] <Disori> antoniss95, no idea. sorry can't help
#1150 [16:34] <Disori> ninjadog is port 25565(or whatever one you're operating on) forwarded?
#1151 [16:35] <Disori> He left..
#1152 [16:35] <antoniss95> No problem. 2 days now I join to chat, but I fdidn't found nothing that can help
#1153 [16:37] <antoniss95> Also i spoke with Morrolan and 2 ohters guys but vain
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#1159 [16:53] <WoM-Guestttt> yo homies
#1160 [16:53] <WoM-Guestttt> hello?
#1161 [16:54] <WoM-Guestttt> anyone remember me? about the laptop and everything
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#1163 [16:54] <WoM-Guestttt> hey
#1164 [16:54] <WoM-Guestttt> can someone help me
#1165 [16:54] <WoM-Guestttt> but it has nothing to do with minecraft
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#1169 [17:00] <Mason> Can Anyone help me? I had migration issues, and I can't log in to my account.
#1170 [17:02] <invisiblefang6> can someone help me when i click minecraft it says cannot find the java virtual machine, i tried to fix it using you tube videos but it didnt work!!!!!!!!!!!!! help :p
#1171 [17:03] <invisiblefang6> why doesnt any one talk omg!
#1172 [17:04] <lemon-rev> what have you tryed
#1173 [17:04] <invisiblefang6> opening batch files etc.
#1174 [17:05] <lemon-rev> hm
#1175 [17:05] <invisiblefang6> it still doesnt work
#1176 [17:05] <lemon-rev> invisiblefang6 have you tryed going to java.com and doing an update
#1177 [17:05] <invisiblefang6> ii think so ! I am pretty sure i have the latest 32 bit java do i need a 64 bit?
#1178 [17:06] <invisiblefang6> ooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyygggggggggoooooooooooooossssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
#1179 [17:06] <lemon-rev> hm,
#1180 [17:06] <lemon-rev> have you tryed it or you just guessing
#1181 [17:07] <invisiblefang6> ive triedit.....
#1182 [17:07] <invisiblefang6> ........
#1183 [17:07] <lemon-rev> hm, ok what system do you have windows 7 32 / 64 ?
#1184 [17:07] <invisiblefang6> no i have windows xp
#1185 [17:07] <invisiblefang6> why?
#1186 [17:08] <lemon-rev> ok, because it helps to move about it
#1187 [17:08] <lemon-rev> when trying to problem solve, sometimes
#1188 [17:08] <lemon-rev> anyways
#1189 [17:08] <lemon-rev> ??> invisiblefang6 win/dxdiag
#1190 [17:08] <invisiblefang6> oh do i need to defragment my pc?
#1191 [17:08] <VoxelHead> invisiblefang6: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1192 [17:08] <VoxelHead> invisiblefang6: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1193 [17:08] <lemon-rev> no
#1194 [17:09] <invisiblefang6> okay so what do i need windows 7
#1195 [17:09] <lemon-rev> no, xp is fine, i have xp and it should run
#1196 [17:09] <invisiblefang6> hm...
#1197 [17:09] <invisiblefang6> weird what should i do
#1198 [17:09] <lemon-rev> goto control pannel as well and see in add / remove programs and see about your old versions of java
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#1200 [17:10] <[JD]> did you update the path loction? and/or restart after doing so?
#1201 [17:10] <invisiblefang6> thx
#1202 [17:10] <lemon-rev> follow vox, instructions, and del old versions of java
#1203 [17:12] <invisiblefang6> wait ive already done that.......................
#1204 [17:12] <invisiblefang6> dang
#1205 [17:13] <invisiblefang6> bye
#1206 [17:13] <invisiblefang6> bye
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#1208 [17:13] <lemon-rev> hm
#1209 [17:13] <lemon-rev> what a waste
#1210 [17:16] <proabdo> still?\
#1211 [17:16] <lemon-rev> ?
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#1218 [18:04] <proabdo> oh forget it
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#1224 [18:26] <km_> I can no longer see zombies and other things. How do I get it back?
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#1228 [18:32] <anticipasion> hello
#1229 [18:32] <anticipasion> hello
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#1236 [19:01] <slowfi> is every smp server in the universe down today? can that happen if mojang identification is down?
#1237 [19:01] <oldtopman> slowfi: That happens if mojang is down.
#1238 [19:01] <oldtopman> !login
#1239 [19:02] <oldtopman> slowfi: As it were, it seems that the servers that you're trying are all down, because login is up.
#1240 [19:02] <slowfi> ok, so I shouldn't worry that it's my fault and I need to fix something
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#1243 [19:08] <oldtopman> slowfi: try s.nerd.nu
#1244 [19:08] <oldtopman> Does that work?
#1245 [19:13] <slowfi> no
#1246 [19:14] <slowfi> not at all
#1247 [19:15] <slowfi> failed to login: Bad login -- every time
#1248 [19:16] <slowfi> ditto for p.nerd.nu and every other smp host I know
#1249 [19:17] <slowfi> if nobody else can login, I'll know not to try to fix something at my end
#1250 [19:18] <oldtopman> slowfi: Works here, probably on your end :/
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#1252 [19:20] <newguy> hey guys i need some help, I have no sound although i have sound in any other game or program in windows
#1253 [19:20] <newguy> the volume is at 100%
#1254 [19:21] <newguy> any ideas?
#1255 [19:23] <DiskDaemon> This may be a solution for that http://www.tobys.dk/blog/minecraft-no-sound-fix/
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#1257 [19:27] <conn3r> if my friend has a mac and i have windows xp on a dell does it matter if he wants to join my minecraft server/
#1258 [19:28] <conn3r> ??
#1259 [19:29] <conn3r> helloooo'
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#1261 [19:29] <conn3r> hello
#1262 [19:30] <conn3r> if my friend has a mac and i have a dell windows xp does it mater if we are trying to make a mnecraft server?
#1263 [19:31] <conn3r> hheeeeeelllllooooooo
#1264 [19:31] <clarjon1> no
#1265 [19:32] <conn3r> but when he trys to get in my server it says failed to connect any suggestions
#1266 [19:32] <conn3r> ?
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#1270 [19:35] <conn3r> any people that can help me?
#1271 [19:35] <Wolfie> Anyone can help me please?
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#1273 [19:35] <conn3r> noones been answering :(
#1274 [19:35] <Wolfie> I can't login..
#1275 [19:36] <conn3r> what does it say
#1276 [19:36] <Wolfie> "Can't connect to minecraft.net"
#1277 [19:36] <Wolfie> The "news feed" in the launcher isn't working either..
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#1279 [19:36] <conn3r> to the web browser?
#1280 [19:36] <Wolfie> "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>"
#1281 [19:36] <Wolfie> Just says that.
#1282 [19:37] <Wolfie> Naw, the downloaded client.
#1283 [19:37] <noaheasch> i bought the game minecraft prem an cant play
#1284 [19:37] <Wolfie> Sticks at "Logging in..." for like 20 seconds, then just says cannot connect.
#1285 [19:38] <noaheasch> i want my money back since thre is no support i could probaly figure it out i i could talkto someone on the phone
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#1288 [19:39] <conn3r> just a sec wolfie
#1289 [19:39] <Wolfie> okay
#1290 [19:40] <Wolfie> I turned off all my firewalls
#1291 [19:40] <Wolfie> It's working now..
#1292 [19:40] <Wolfie> Would like to have my firewalls on though lol
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#1296 [19:42] <conn3r> oh ok
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#1298 [19:44] <conn3r> can someone help me?
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#1300 [19:46] <Boreeas> Wolfie: Are you using AVG?
#1301 [19:46] <srsly> does anyone know the minecraft account support email? I can't find it anywhere
#1302 [19:46] <Boreeas> srsly: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1303 [19:46] <srsly> thanks
#1304 [19:49] <conn3r> can you help me
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#1306 [19:49] <allenmelon> help wit redstone?
#1307 [19:50] <conn3r> ...with my minecraft...
#1308 [19:50] <allenmelon> is tehre a way to build a more precise/exact AND gate?
#1309 [19:50] <allenmelon> because im trying to build a long delay using two delays' LCM
#1310 [19:51] <conn3r> dont ask me i nedd help...XD
#1311 [19:51] <allenmelon> but in between the LCM, the delays come very close to hitting at the same time, but since the redstone doesnt turn off for a bit
#1312 [19:51] <allenmelon> the AND gate gets triggered
#1313 [19:52] <allenmelon> so is there a way to make an AND gate that only gets triggered when the signals hit exactly at the same time?
#1314 [19:52] <srsly> has anyone experienced this problem?: It says I need to change my user name, because it contains illegal characters, but it brings me to a "Not found" page. It won't let me migrate either
#1315 [19:52] <conn3r> IDK
#1316 [19:58] <slowfi> I used to be able to play multiplayer, but I installed a mod into minecraft.jar and now I can no longer login to any smp server, so I reverted to the virgin 1.2.5 minecraft.jar and I still can't play multiplayer. if I delete minecraft.jar, minecraft just hangs at startup claiming that it's downloading
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#1318 [19:58] <Nombix> I need some help
#1319 [19:59] <Nombix> Anyone here?
#1320 [20:00] <Nombix> This is a support chat please help support me
#1321 [20:01] <Nombix> Guys
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#1323 [20:05] <bradder> I need help
#1324 [20:06] <bradder> any1
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#1327 [20:26] <Dan> hey at what light level does mobs spawn at?
#1328 [20:28] <Denizen> 7 or less
#1329 [20:28] <Dan> cool im good then
#1330 [20:31] <oldtopman> ??> bradder ask
#1331 [20:31] <VoxelHead> bradder: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1332 [20:31] <VoxelHead> bradder: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1334 [20:33] <JPSnuffy_> this channel is just for normal Minecraft help right?
#1335 [20:34] <DiskDaemon> that's right
#1336 [20:34] <JPSnuffy_> I was wondering if there was a way to access my minecraft worlds from multiplelocations
#1337 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Vanilla? Yeah.
#1338 [20:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope.
#1339 [20:34] <JPSnuffy_> :(
#1340 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> You can copy that world's folder and keep using only that folder.
#1341 [20:35] <oldtopman> JPSnuffy_: Actually, you might try storing your .minecraft/saves folder on dropbox or something similar.
#1342 [20:35] <JPSnuffy_> so you can save it somewhere online
#1343 [20:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Then move the worlds folder to your minecraft folder.
#1344 [20:36] <JPSnuffy_> @oldtopman, if there tutorial on how to do that and have minecraft see it?
#1345 [20:37] <JPSnuffy_> I am running Vanilla Mincraft on Win7
#1346 [20:37] <CrusaderDeleters> JP, you copy your worlds folder onto dropbox, then copy the folder from dropbox, on another machine, of course, into your minecraft folder. C:
#1347 [20:37] <JPSnuffy_> CrusaderDeleters, that doesn't keep them in sync though right?
#1348 [20:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Not really. You gotta keep copying and overwriting the files in dropbox.
#1349 [20:38] <JPSnuffy_> nm
#1350 [20:38] <JPSnuffy_> OK,that is what I thought
#1351 [20:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecraft wasn't (umfortunately) built to change directories. (Boo. :c)
#1352 [20:39] <JPSnuffy_> bummer
#1353 [20:39] <JPSnuffy_> maybe in a future release?
#1354 [20:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Hopefully. But I really don't see change in directories for a while. It would be cool if they added that, though.
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#1356 [20:40] <JPSnuffy_> guess the only other way would be to start a MC server
#1357 [20:40] <CrusaderDeleters> That's a wise way to go. Sometimes plugins can make your gaming experience better.
#1358 [20:40] <JPSnuffy_> a local server to my network
#1359 [20:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Local Servers are without need of ip forwarding.
#1360 [20:42] <JPSnuffy_> yeah, I usually stay away from plugins, I have downloaded texture packs that is about it.
#1361 [20:43] <JPSnuffy_> I have a Proliant ML370 G2 that is not being used
#1362 [20:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Bukkit plugins can range to anywhere around new content, bug fixes, and multi-world support.
#1363 [20:44] <JPSnuffy_> hmmm, I will look them up
#1364 [20:44] <JPSnuffy_> Thanks CrusaderD
#1365 [20:44] <CrusaderDeleters> No problem.
#1366 [20:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Most are easy to add.
#1367 [20:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Remember the golden command of servers: /op <name>
#1368 [20:44] <JPSnuffy_> now to find the server setup help :)
#1369 [20:44] <CrusaderDeleters> You can use any command, rendering Permissions uneeded.
#1370 [20:45] <CrusaderDeleters> #bukkit
#1371 [20:45] <CrusaderDeleters> ^
#1372 [20:45] <JPSnuffy_> nice
#1373 [20:45] <slowfi> something weird happened when I installed the wmll (what's my light level) mod and tried to connect to a smp server. Somehow it invalidated my account and I could no longer login anywhere. So I had to go back to my email account and tell minecraft to reset my password, and reload a virgin copy of minecraft. now I can login and play again
#1374 [20:46] <slowfi> I guess wmll is illegal at some smp servers, but how could it invalidate my minecraft account ?
#1375 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> slowfi: I'm sorry, we don't provide mod support here
#1376 [20:47] <CrusaderDeleters> wmll can't.
#1377 [20:47] <CrusaderDeleters> It's probably a malicious mod.
#1378 [20:47] <slowfi> it's a very lame mod
#1379 [20:47] <CrusaderDeleters> There's better mods to do better things.
#1380 [20:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Zombe's modpack can show you where certain creatures can/can't spawn.
#1381 [20:48] <slowfi> it does nothing you can't also do with f3
#1382 [20:48] <DiskDaemon> slowfi: Then use F3
#1383 [20:48] <slowfi> is Zombe's modpack legal at most smp servers?
#1384 [20:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Zombe's modpack can be disabled if the server wishes it.
#1385 [20:49] <slowfi> some servers can disable selected features of mods, like rei's minimap radar
#1386 [20:51] <slowfi> I don't want to go through what happens if I try to login to an smp server with a forbidden mod
#1387 [20:52] <CrusaderDeleters> You could still have zombe's modpack not activate fly, or any of the otehr mods. C:
#1388 [20:54] <slowfi> I don't want a modpack with features that cause me trouble again. for the moment I'll stick with optifine+rei's minimap
#1389 [20:55] <slowfi> those are pretty innocuous especially with radar disabled
#1390 [20:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Zombe's modloader loads mods that you enable in a config, and you can still disable it. C:
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#1393 [21:09] <slowfi> dammit every time I run 7zip it goes through this installation ordeal where I must say "no please don't install yahoo toolbar and other assorted malware". Is there a way to run 7zip without reinstalling it?
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#1397 [21:24] <oldtopman> slowfi: I use jzip myself.
#1398 [21:24] <oldtopman> Works perfect for me.
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#1403 [21:52] <MorningSight> How do i fix a memory leek i just brought my new laptop home and it keeps saying there is a memory leek
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#1407 [22:00] <mikey> Help
#1408 [22:00] <mikey> HELP
#1409 [22:01] <mikey> HELLO?
#1410 [22:01] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#1411 [22:01] <mikey> I need help with buying minecraft
#1412 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> What kind of help?
#1413 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> Please elaborate.
#1414 [22:02] <mikey> \When i hit confirm and pay it says i bought it but its been over 2 hours and i havent been able to download it
#1415 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> What is your minecraft username?
#1416 [22:02] <mikey> SergantGold
#1417 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1418 [22:02] <GreyVulpine> !paid SergantGold
#1419 [22:02] <mikey> what?
#1420 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> ... waits for bot ...
#1421 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, the haspaid script's timing out on the website
#1422 [22:03] <mikey> whats Paidsergant gold
#1423 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't look like "SergantGold" is premium
#1424 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> Have you gotten a confirmation email for payment?
#1425 [22:04] <DiskDaemon> The link to to haspaid.jsp is timing out right now too
#1426 [22:04] <mikey> Greyvul whats ! paid sergantGold
#1427 [22:04] <GreyVulpine> That's us sending a command to a bot to check your account's premium status
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#1429 [22:05] <mikey> i didnt lemme go on again my email
#1430 [22:05] <DiskDaemon> The help.mojang.com isn't able to check the service status either. Hrm.
#1431 [22:05] <mikey> oops
#1432 [22:05] <xFIREBURDx> anyone know why on the xox 360 version, it keeps reseting my profile and deleting my inventory?
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#1434 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> No idea. Not many of us here us the xbox version.
#1435 [22:06] <mikey> what i havent Gotten the email but i have the code
#1436 [22:06] <xFIREBURDx> :/
#1437 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> mikey - Did you purchase a gift code?
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#1439 [22:06] <mikey> it says thx for purchasing minecraft and the code is alot of letters and nubers
#1440 [22:07] <minembo> how and where to i go to issue a complaint about abusive and vulgar language on minecraft
#1441 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> minembo - There is no such place.
#1442 [22:07] <mikey> so what do i do
#1443 [22:07] <minembo> where do i reach the owner of the game
#1444 [22:07] <mikey> Notch?
#1445 [22:08] <mikey> um u probs cant
#1446 [22:08] <mikey> So what do i do?
#1447 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> mikey - Check DiskDaemon's link.
#1448 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> <+DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1449 [22:08] <mikey> ok
#1450 [22:08] <GreyVulpine> Your answer lies in that FAQ entry
#1451 [22:13] <mikey> can i type my code
#1452 [22:14] <mikey> of the order
#1453 [22:14] <lemon-rev> mikey whats up
#1454 [22:15] <mikey> i have been trying to buy minecraft for a 2nd account and it still says its not premium
#1455 [22:15] <mikey> can i type my order code here?
#1456 [22:16] <mikey> HELLO
#1457 [22:18] <mikey> LEMONREV
#1458 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> No, please don't type your order code here.
#1459 [22:18] <mikey> then what do i do
#1460 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> mikey: Please read http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1461 [22:18] <mikey> i did what do i do
#1462 [22:19] <Disori> Wait, most likely
#1463 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> mikey: Apple some reading comprehension
#1464 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> Or even apply :)
#1465 [22:20] <mikey> 8i have what should i click
#1466 [22:20] <Morrolan> And here I spent half a minute thinking about that pun of yours.
#1467 [22:20] <DiskDaemon> mikey: Are you having trouble understanding some parts of that page?
#1468 [22:27] * DiskDaemon puts away next prepared question of: "Which part of it would you like us to provide further details about?"
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#1470 [22:46] <april> I have downloaded and purchased minecraft for my son. When I try to log him in it states no premium.
#1471 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> Please check with your bank. If you haven't been charged for the game, then it hasn't been purchased.
#1472 [22:50] <april> It gave me a big long order number.
#1473 [22:50] <april> But I will check with my bank. Thanks for the help!
#1474 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> That was your unique record for the transaction. A different number is shown as your transaction id, which comes in the email, and shows on your bank's transaction
#1475 [22:51] <april> Oh ok thank you!
#1476 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> What was the purchase attempted with?
#1477 [22:51] <april> A visa check card.
#1478 [22:52] <april> It can be used as a credit or debit card.
#1479 [22:52] <DiskDaemon> I haven't heard of a check card before. I'm looking up info about it
#1480 [22:52] <april> It's the same as a debit card.
#1481 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> You may need to contact your bank (ring them on the phone) so that the card can be authorized for international purchases. Mojang are in Sweden.
#1482 [22:54] <april> Oh ok. Thanks!
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#1484 [22:55] <twinfalls95> hello
#1485 [22:56] <twinfalls95> can anyone assist me with figuring out what i am doing wrong when trying to play multi player?
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#1489 [23:24] <roughneck60> does anyone know where i can get help making my custom mobs breed?
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#1491 [23:26] <DiskDaemon> #risucraft is the place for that
#1492 [23:27] <roughneck60> thanks
#1493 [23:27] <roughneck60> thanks
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#1495 [23:27] <RC1207SEV> how do you get into a minecraft server?
#1496 [23:28] <RC1207SEV> it sais you have to copy and paste the ip adress into the client under multiplayer
#1497 [23:28] <RC1207SEV> but how do you get to the client?
#1498 [23:28] <RC1207SEV> helllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo??????????????????????????????????
#1499 [23:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk: Mojang IS in Sweden. C:
#1500 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> It's tricky to sort out the is/are with company names
#1501 [23:30] <RC1207SEV> how do you paste an ip adress to a client?
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#1503 [23:30] <ngc0202> Heya
#1504 [23:31] <ngc0202> Can I get help here with the net.minecraft.server modding stuff?
#1505 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> Using the normal shortcut keys of Ctrl-v to paste, or you can just type it in
#1506 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> ngc0202: No, we don't deal with modding here
#1507 [23:31] <ngc0202> Where can I get help with it then? o.O
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#1509 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> perhaps from #smp ?
#1510 [23:32] <RC1207SEV> thank you very much Disk Daemon, you have been helpful
#1511 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> You're welcome - I normally am :)
#1512 [23:34] <papaganoush> good evening. anyone reporintg issues with minecraft and the new mac os x? I am getting terrible performance - slow jittery graphics, lots of missing chunks on smp. dropped connections. Not seeing other issues with network
#1513 [23:36] <papaganoush> I'm the only player on mac and no one else on the server is seeing any increased problems. wondering if could be related to the mountain lion (and related java) update
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#1515 [23:38] <seth> why can't i get on to minecraft if i already bought it
#1516 [23:41] <Disori> seth, it takes a bit for the order to go through
#1517 [23:41] <Disori> depending on how oyu pay
#1518 [23:41] <Disori> papaganoush, windows here
#1519 [23:42] <papaganoush> I am concerned as there are other applications (CS5) where java changes are cited as causing issues. I don't want to have to downgrade the OS just to play minecraft - but I will :)
#1520 [23:43] <seth> oh how long does it take
#1521 [23:44] <Disori> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1522 [23:44] <seth> thanks
#1523 [23:46] <papaganoush> well I am going to go idle and wait to see if anyone else asks about a problem on Mac... in the meantime - to the forums!