#1 [00:00] <Disori> papaganoush, do a bit of googling is my best answer
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#5 [00:22] <yesso> hello
#6 [00:22] <yesso> I've tried to buy two copies of minecraft as a gift for my sister and her husband
#7 [00:22] <yesso> unfortunately, minecraft.net doesn't have an option for buying more than one gift
#8 [00:22] <yesso> and after I bought the first one, my credit card is banned for 48 hours
#9 [00:23] <yesso> I wanted to have it for tomorrow
#10 [00:23] <yesso> any options for me?
#11 [00:29] <papaganoush> yesso - I had the same problem. only solution I found was to use another Credit card
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#13 [00:32] <yessopie> :(
#14 [00:32] <yessopie> Thanks
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#18 [00:52] <zzyxyzz> HELLO ALL O/
#19 [00:52] <Arle> o/ Hello
#20 [00:52] <lemon-rev> yes?
#21 [00:52] * zzyxyzz needs help with server for minecraft :(
#21 [00:53] <lemon-rev> zzyxyzz what you mean ?
#22 [00:53] <zzyxyzz> well i recently started a server of my own and no matetr what i do to secure it i been getting griefed terribly when i am away from it :9
#23 [00:54] <lemon-rev> zzyxyzz ok so you have a whitelist ?
#24 [00:54] <zzyxyzz> no thats exaclty what i came to learn forgot what it was called tho
#25 [00:54] <zzyxyzz> i see the whitelist file
#26 [00:54] <zzyxyzz> its blank
#27 [00:55] <lemon-rev> ok, well put the trusted users in that by nick / and press enter after every nick then only those with those nicks in that file can join
#28 [00:55] <zzyxyzz> ok so 'nickname/"
#29 [00:55] <zzyxyzz> o sweet thats what i needed the slash cool
#30 [00:55] <lemon-rev> so yea nickname /enter nickname
#31 [00:55] <zzyxyzz> thNK THANK THANK U
#32 [00:55] <lemon-rev> not sure about the slash
#33 [00:55] <Arle> zzyxyzz, no, don't put the slash in.
#34 [00:55] <zzyxyzz> SPACE INBETWEEN NICKNAME AND /?
#35 [00:55] <lemon-rev> justsaying
#36 [00:56] <zzyxyzz> OOOOO
#37 [00:56] <Arle> Just the name.
#38 [00:56] <zzyxyzz> kkk
#39 [00:56] <zzyxyzz> thank u very much
#40 [00:56] <Arle> You have to enable the whitelist in the server.properties as well.
#41 [00:57] <zzyxyzz> ok
#42 [00:57] <zzyxyzz> i see it make it true?
#43 [00:58] <lemon-rev> yup
#44 [00:59] <zzyxyzz> ok restartign server
#45 [00:59] * zzyxyzz loves minecraft
#45 [00:59] * zzyxyzz hates griefers
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#46 [01:01] <zzyxyzz> thank it worked only my buddies can get in
#47 [01:01] <Arle> :)
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#51 [01:17] <Steven> Hello?
#52 [01:17] <Calinou> hi
#53 [01:17] <Steven> Yes i been wondering is minecraft in maintenance
#54 [01:18] <Steven> Hello?
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#56 [01:20] <Steven> Hello?
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#58 [01:20] <Steven> hello4
#59 [01:21] <TKGP_DS> yo
#60 [01:21] <TKGP_DS> or not
#61 [01:32] <lemon-rev> lol
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#63 [01:59] <Smanly> stop
#64 [01:59] <Smanly> Lol, this isnt a consel
#65 [01:59] <Smanly> Consol*
#66 [02:00] <lemon-rev> please stop spamming
#67 [02:02] <Smanly> Are you talking to me, lemon-rev?
#68 [02:04] <Disori> Lol, that's not spamming lemon-rev. He was correcting himself. Also, Smanly, why'd you say those things?
#69 [02:04] <Smanly> Which things?
#70 [02:04] <Disori> Lol, this isnt a consol
#71 [02:04] <lemon-rev> lol
#72 [02:05] <Smanly> Yeah, I wrote "stop" in an attempt to stop a server.
#73 [02:05] <Smanly> This is not a server.
#74 [02:05] <Smanly> I think.
#75 [02:05] <Disori> Oh, I see. Lol. Yeah I've done that before
#76 [02:05] <Smanly> :D
#77 [02:05] <Disori> Gah, gtg adios
#78 [02:05] <Smanly> Adios
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#80 [02:17] <zack6849> hey guys, if i joined a server via direct connect and then closed miencraft is there any way i can get the server ip again?
#81 [02:17] <zack6849> im trying to remeber the servers anem
#82 [02:17] <zack6849> but i cant :/
#83 [02:17] <Smanly> I think its saved to a temp file
#84 [02:17] <zack6849> PLEASE GOD TELL ME WHERE
#85 [02:17] <Smanly> No need for caps
#86 [02:18] <Smanly> Also, I said I think.
#87 [02:19] <zack6849> could you please hep me find it? Dx
#88 [02:19] <Smanly> Im looking
#89 [02:20] <Smanly> You could ask google
#90 [02:20] <zack6849> ive been begging google :/
#91 [02:20] <lemon-rev> lol well it doesnt take $
#92 [02:20] <lemon-rev> lol
#93 [02:20] <Smanly> Wut
#94 [02:20] <zack6849> iv ebeen searching for quite a while
#95 [02:21] <zack6849> i know i found the server becausse i was derping aroubnd on mcbans
#96 [02:21] <zack6849> i remeber one of the players that was getting banned was lawofmo
#97 [02:21] <zack6849> however
#98 [02:21] <zack6849> i checked his mcbans profile
#99 [02:21] <zack6849> none of those servers are the one i was on
#100 [02:21] <zack6849> i remeber it was pp
#101 [02:21] <zack6849> and i remeber the owners name was jp and some numbers.
#102 [02:21] <zack6849> thats about it :/
#103 [02:22] <lemon-rev> zack, why dont you try typeing in the name of the server maybe you get an answer
#104 [02:22] <zack6849> i dont know the name of the server
#105 [02:22] <zack6849> otherwise i woudnt be here
#106 [02:22] <lemon-rev> well did you find it on a webpage
#107 [02:22] <zack6849> i know it was something pure pvp
#108 [02:22] <zack6849> mcbans
#109 [02:22] <zack6849> i was bored
#110 [02:22] <zack6849> scrolling through there
#111 [02:22] <zack6849> however its no longer there
#112 [02:22] <lemon-rev> then try looking back there but we cant help you with that, its your problem if you wish to go back ot that server
#113 [02:23] <zack6849> and i dont want to go through all ~76 pages of servers using mcbans and HOPE one is
#114 [02:23] <lemon-rev> then hes prob taking down the server
#115 [02:23] <zack6849> no
#116 [02:23] <zack6849> i was on the ban listings page
#117 [02:23] <zack6849> and they made a recent ban
#118 [02:23] <zack6849> so i saw that
#119 [02:23] <zack6849> however the bans page
#120 [02:23] <zack6849> only goes back 5 pages
#121 [02:23] <Smanly> Check your history?
#122 [02:23] <zack6849> hmm
#123 [02:24] <zack6849> nope
#124 [02:25] <Smanly> Yeah, idk, zack6849
#125 [02:25] <zack6849> :/
#126 [02:25] <Smanly> Can't help you, sorry.
#127 [02:26] <lemon-rev> Smanly yes ?
#128 [02:26] <Smanly> lemon-rev yes ?
#129 [02:26] <lemon-rev> ie what with ?
#130 [02:26] <Smanly> What the hell are you talking about?
#131 [02:27] <Smanly> Ok...
#132 [02:27] <lemon-rev> lol mis read you , thought you wanted help oh well
#133 [02:27] <Smanly> Oh, lol.
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#135 [02:31] <jazz> hi have got java virtual machime errors
#136 [02:31] <Smanly> Woah
#137 [02:31] <Smanly> Pastebin.com the error
#138 [02:33] <jazz> could not create the java virtual machine is the latest error. just paid for the game and cant get it too start. any help appreciated
#139 [02:33] <Smanly> Pastebin.com the error
#140 [02:33] <jazz> sorry
#141 [02:34] <jazz> what is pastebin
#142 [02:34] <Smanly> ??>> jazz pastebin
#143 [02:35] <jazz> thanks
#144 [02:37] <jazz> http://pastebin.com/3Sfur3Qp
#145 [02:37] <jazz> http://pastebin.com/3Sfur3Qp
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#147 [02:38] <Smanly> Are you shitting me?
#148 [02:38] * Smanly facedesks
#148 [02:45] <jazz> can someone explain how to use this help channel
#149 [02:46] <Smanly> Um
#150 [02:46] <Smanly> ??> jazz pastebin
#151 [02:46] <VoxelHead> jazz: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#152 [02:46] <Smanly> You need to copy the error from minecraft.
#153 [02:47] * puffrfish bangs his head on his desk
#153 [02:47] <TKGP_DS> tech support wee
#154 [02:47] <TheNoodle> lolled
#155 [02:48] <Smanly> I cried
#156 [02:49] <DiskDaemon> Smanly: It may this type of error that he's getting http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg689/scaled.php?server=689&filename=beztytuuqhz.png&res=landing
#157 [02:50] <Smanly> Ture
#158 [02:50] <Smanly> But was that taken with a ham sandwich?
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#167 [03:48] <Beneficiary> Hello?
#168 [03:49] <TKGP_DS> hello
#169 [03:49] <Beneficiary> Aha a living human perhaps? If not could you direct me to one? XD
#170 [03:50] <TKGP_DS> yes I am
#171 [03:50] <TKGP_DS> what's up
#172 [03:50] <Beneficiary> I'm having a few problems with PEx.
#173 [03:50] <Beneficiary> Do you think you could help me out?
#174 [03:50] <GreyVulpine> Try #permissionsex
#175 [03:51] <Beneficiary> Ahh okay
#176 [03:51] <TKGP_DS> that sounds saucier than it should :)
#177 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> That joke's been made for as long as PEX's been around..
#178 [03:53] <TKGP_DS> first I've even heard of it ;~;
#179 [03:53] <Beneficiary> lmao
#180 [03:54] <Beneficiary> It looks kinkier here than it usually does.
#181 [04:06] <Wug> it would help them to change the caps to #PermissionsEx
#182 [04:07] <Wug> doesnt look nearly as bad
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#184 [04:16] * GreyVulpine yawns
#184 [04:17] * GreyVulpine has been working first shift.... at 5am
#184 [04:24] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#185 [05:14] <Moose> [01:06] <Wug> it would help them to change the caps to #PermissionsEx
#186 [05:14] <Moose> I think #PermissionSex would be correct, no?
#187 [05:14] <Calinou> lol
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#189 [05:29] <Rikairchy> heh.
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#191 [05:58] <ObliviArt> hello?
#192 [05:59] <Arle> Hi
#193 [05:59] <ObliviArt> is anyone else having an error with minecraft atm?
#194 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/
#195 [05:59] <ObliviArt> like at launch it has some sort of context error
#196 [05:59] <GreyVulpine> All servers seem up
#197 [06:00] <ObliviArt> i will take a look, maybe try to paste the message here
#198 [06:00] <DiskDaemon> Game logs in without trouble. What sort of issue?
#199 [06:00] <ObliviArt> Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7cf3a456 -------- Generated 7/29/12 5:59 AM Minecraft: Minecraft 1.2.5 OS: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1 Java: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation LWJGL: 2.4.2 [failed to get system properties (java
#200 [06:01] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#201 [06:01] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#202 [06:01] <Arle> ^
#203 [06:02] <ObliviArt> http://pastebin.com/FZyxxFj0
#204 [06:02] <ObliviArt> I tried a forced update with no luck
#205 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> Can we get a dxdiag report?
#206 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> ??> ObliviArt dxdiag
#207 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> ??> ObliviArt win/dxdiag
#208 [06:03] <VoxelHead> ObliviArt: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#209 [06:03] <VoxelHead> ObliviArt: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#210 [06:05] <ObliviArt> http://pastebin.com/yJx4WbHm
#211 [06:06] <ObliviArt> it was fine like 30 min ago
#212 [06:06] <DiskDaemon> Something must have happened to change things. Any idea what it was?
#213 [06:07] <ObliviArt> not in the least
#214 [06:08] <ObliviArt> i was messing with my server just building and when a got tired i disconnected and stopped the server
#215 [06:08] <DiskDaemon> Okay. First up would be to check that your graphics drivers are up to date.
#216 [06:08] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/intel
#217 [06:08] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#218 [06:09] <ObliviArt> brb going to try one thing before fiddling with drivers
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#220 [06:12] <ObliviArt> that fixed it
#221 [06:13] <Arle> Out of interest, what was the problem?
#222 [06:13] <ObliviArt> apparently a small error that occured at game shut down caused a micro dump and shut down a few handles
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#224 [06:14] <ObliviArt> so when i tried to bring the game up there was nothing there to carry the data over for part of it
#225 [06:15] <ObliviArt> restart is your friend....should have thought about trying that to begin with though...
#226 [06:15] <ObliviArt> thanks for the help
#227 [06:16] <Arle> I suspected a reboot might fix it :)
#228 [06:16] <ObliviArt> usually does, but tired minds kinda forget a few steps
#229 [06:17] <ObliviArt> mostly when something was just working and no error messages were shown besides with in game
#230 [06:18] <ObliviArt> slight side question, what is the 24000 time setup? I have been trying to work that out, mostly I just set like 04440 for 4:44 am
#231 [06:18] <Arle> you mean in Minecraft?
#232 [06:18] <ObliviArt> yea
#233 [06:18] <ObliviArt> like when it tosses an error at me about time
#234 [06:19] <Arle> Well, 0 is 6 AM, and 1000 points is one hour in game time.
#235 [06:19] <Arle> so /time set 0 sets it to sunrise.
#236 [06:19] <ObliviArt> i go in and set the time to current local, hmm i see
#237 [06:19] <ObliviArt> so my understanding was flawed
#238 [06:20] <DiskDaemon> Perhaps this may help - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Day-Night_Cycle#Time_Measurements
#239 [06:20] <ObliviArt> so like now it is 6:18 here so that would be 01800?
#240 [06:21] <ObliviArt> yea, that did not help a whole lot sorry
#241 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> no. 6am is 0, and 7am is 1000, so 6:18 would be 0 + 1000/60*16 which is 1000+266 which ends up being 1266 for 6:18am
#242 [06:22] <ObliviArt> i might not understand what it is saying, looked like a chart about irl:game ratio
#243 [06:22] <Arle> yeah, not the same thing.
#244 [06:23] <DiskDaemon> This about ticks may be more useful http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tick
#245 [06:24] <ObliviArt> still looking at your equation, it some how does not seem to fit what you just explained
#246 [06:24] <DiskDaemon> Where is the confusion?
#247 [06:24] <ObliviArt> what would 1266 not be some time past 7am if 7am is 1000?
#248 [06:25] <ObliviArt> why*
#249 [06:25] <DiskDaemon> There are 24000 ticks in a minecraft day. 1000 ticks per hour. Counting starts at 0 for 6am.
#250 [06:25] <Arle> It is
#251 [06:25] <DiskDaemon> Oh yes, so it would be 266 for 6:18am, and 1266 for 7:18am
#252 [06:25] <ObliviArt> thats more like it :P
#253 [06:26] <Arle> 7:16 actually
#254 [06:26] <ObliviArt> so then 266 is still off?, hmm let me do a scale break down
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#256 [06:26] <DiskDaemon> Yes, 266 is 16 minutes, 300 would be 18 minutes
#257 [06:27] <DiskDaemon> So it's 100 ticks for every 6 in-game minutes that pass.
#258 [06:27] <ObliviArt> 500= 3 min as 1000= 1 hour so 250 is 15min
#259 [06:27] <ObliviArt> that adds up yea
#260 [06:28] <ObliviArt> ok cool
#261 [06:28] <Arle> Yes, that's right.
#262 [06:29] <ObliviArt> i will set that to memory, though mostly it seems when the game throws a time error at me, any random 0-24000 with do
#263 [06:29] <ObliviArt> since 3 days is 1 hour
#264 [06:30] <ObliviArt> 10 min of watching creatures run around while i am stacked 20 high on blocks...cause i have not built the house yet
#265 [06:31] <Arle> You know what that reminds me of?
#266 [06:31] <ObliviArt> ?
#267 [06:31] <Arle> The Angry Video Game Nerd playing a Terminator NES game.
#268 [06:31] <ObliviArt> ??? (tilts head)
#269 [06:31] <Arle> There's a spot in the game where you can farm extra lives by just holding the A button, so he attached a clamp to the controller and left it on all night :P
#270 [06:32] <ObliviArt> lol
#271 [06:32] <Arle> Then he got pretty mad the next morning when he found the lives were capped at 6
#272 [06:32] <ObliviArt> most....yea was gonna say something about that
#273 [06:33] <ObliviArt> i suggest game genie and n understanding of hexa decimal
#274 [06:34] <ObliviArt> however never ever set hp and lock it....been stuck many a time in a death point because if that
#275 [06:34] <Arle> lol
#276 [06:34] <ObliviArt> it is like yay i get to reset the game now
#277 [06:35] * Arle doesn't hack his HP with Action Replay. He hacks the camera angle instead.
#277 [06:35] <ObliviArt> to use a modern context, you just want to shove a creeper in the console and hurl it down an obsidian shaft
#278 [06:36] <ObliviArt> i tend to have items more than the char
#279 [06:37] <ObliviArt> inf the ammo, bumb the damage and range
#280 [06:37] <ObliviArt> adjust visual distance if possible.....watch game crash from data lag
#281 [06:39] <ObliviArt> i wanted to adjust the tnt blast radius in minecraft but cannot find a guide to do that
#282 [06:39] <ObliviArt> it is like 3 blocks in all directions atm
#283 [06:40] <ObliviArt> wanted to set it to like 10 or 100 to sink an island i wanted the remove lol
#284 [06:40] <ObliviArt> a tsar sized kaboom
#285 [06:41] <ObliviArt> but i handled that problem by just resetting the world
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#287 [06:43] <ObliviArt> ironically, it started me out on a small 5x5 island right at water level...so i sunk it instead...by hand too
#288 [06:43] <ObliviArt> personal achievement list "sink an island" check
#289 [06:44] <ObliviArt> well it is time to sleep, cya all later
#290 [06:44] * Arle waves.
#290 [06:44] * Arle waves.
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#296 [07:28] <djhelomen> need help
#297 [07:29] <djhelomen> i bough MC Premium have even a screenshot
#298 [07:29] <djhelomen> but im not premium -.-
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#300 [07:32] <TheNoodle> djhelomen, what's your account name>
#301 [07:33] <djhelomen> djhelomen :D
#302 [07:33] <djhelomen> http://i47.tinypic.com/2j1t0u9.jpg check the screenshot
#303 [07:36] <TheNoodle> !paid djhelomen
#304 [07:36] <djhelomen> ?
#305 [07:36] <djhelomen> i did
#306 [07:36] <djhelomen> what a fucking scam is MC
#307 [07:36] * AuBot kicked djhelomen from #minecrafthelp (Reason: jhelomen :Please keep it civil.)
#308 [07:36] <TheNoodle> Your account hasn't gone through yet, this can because of several things. THe most common being the payment hasn't been processed ye-
#309 [07:37] <Necrodoom> er
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#312 [07:48] <hellomen> i did paid for it!
#313 [07:49] <hellomen> its so unblievable i paid for it
#314 [07:49] <hellomen> i share you a screenshot and boom nothing and you guys say i didn't -.-
#315 [07:49] <hellomen> seriouslt its unfair!
#316 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> hellomen: How long ago did you pay for it?
#317 [07:49] <hellomen> not that long
#318 [07:49] <DiskDaemon> A few hours?
#319 [07:50] <hellomen> nope
#320 [07:50] <hellomen> 30mins
#321 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> Minutes?
#322 [07:50] <hellomen> 33mins ago
#323 [07:50] <hellomen> mins = minutes yes
#324 [07:50] <DiskDaemon> Okay, you'll be needing to give this a careful read http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#325 [07:51] <hellomen> jezus
#326 [07:51] <hellomen> 3 days -.-
#327 [07:51] <hellomen> but why the other people said i didn't paid?
#328 [07:52] <hellomen> its very unfair when you ask support when you paid it and they said you didn't paid it.
#329 [07:52] <DiskDaemon> That all stems from when the payment occurred. If your bank account hasn't been charged, then you haven't paid.
#330 [07:53] <hellomen> so i paid
#331 [07:53] <hellomen> but my bank didn't paid?
#332 [07:53] <DiskDaemon> You attempted to pay. If your bank account wasn't charged, then you failed to pay.
#333 [07:54] <hellomen> jesus christ
#334 [07:54] <hellomen> but why im getting on minecraft.net/store/succes.php then?
#335 [07:54] <DiskDaemon> What did you use to attempt the payment?
#336 [07:54] <hellomen> bank account
#337 [07:55] <hellomen> but i was getting through to that succes link -.-
#338 [07:55] <hellomen> its kinda fail then
#339 [07:55] <DiskDaemon> There's a known bug where if a transaction fails, you get shown the transaction failed message, and when you click on through you get taken to the success page.
#340 [07:55] <DiskDaemon> What did you use to attempt the payment?
#341 [07:56] <hellomen> what you mean?
#342 [07:56] <hellomen> what i used like paypal > visa > mastercard?
#343 [07:56] <DiskDaemon> How did you pay? Did you hand cash to someone, wite a check, use a pre pay card of some kind, paypal?
#344 [07:56] <hellomen> i used mastercard
#345 [07:57] <DiskDaemon> Which type of mastercard?
#346 [07:57] <hellomen> -.-
#347 [07:57] <hellomen> mastercard > the netherland > abn ambro
#348 [07:58] <DiskDaemon> So you're able to contact your bank to find out about the transaction?
#349 [07:58] <hellomen> i dont know im 15 -.-
#350 [07:59] <hellomen> jesus
#351 [07:59] <DiskDaemon> Some banks put a hold on international transactions as a security measure.
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#353 [07:59] <hellomen> wait let me search im 15 -.-
#354 [08:00] <hellomen> cant find it on the site so probably not
#355 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> It is always possible to telephone your bank for assistance.
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#357 [08:01] <hellomen> -.-
#358 [08:01] <hellomen> why you cant just make me premium
#359 [08:01] <hellomen> i paid and get nothing.
#360 [08:01] <DiskDaemon> Nobody here works for Mojang.
#361 [08:01] <hellomen> jesus christ
#362 [08:01] <hellomen> jesus christ
#363 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> I am "some random person" from New Zealand, for example.
#364 [08:02] <hellomen> no your a random person from north america
#365 [08:02] <Necrodoom> hellomen: its unoffical IRC chat
#366 [08:02] <DiskDaemon> We volunteer our time here, out of the goodness of our hearts, to try and help people who are having problems. Nobody here is official.
#367 [08:02] <Necrodoom> hellomen: also, nobody will just "make you premium"
#368 [08:02] <hellomen> :p i hate this is really shit
#369 [08:02] <Necrodoom> without proof
#370 [08:03] <hellomen> necro i have send here a screen before
#371 [08:03] <hellomen> with transaction id and name of MC succes link
#372 [08:03] <hellomen> anyways
#373 [08:03] <Necrodoom> if you emailed mojang, all you can do is wait
#374 [08:03] <hellomen> im going to try some survey sites to get a card -.-
#375 [08:04] <DiskDaemon> hellomen: It's quite likely your attempt to purchase failed because due to your bank blocking international transaction on your card. It is your bank that you need to contact in that sort of regard.
#376 [08:04] <hellomen> neh im just going to use survey site
#377 [08:04] <hellomen> got good survey remover so it should be fast :p
#378 [08:04] <DiskDaemon> hellomen: Also, you may have read that it can take from 3 to 5 working days in some cases for the transaction to clear. You don't want to be double-charged, do you?
#379 [08:05] <hellomen> no
#380 [08:05] <hellomen> but surveys are free -.-
#381 [08:05] <hellomen> so if i get a survey MC premium gift card
#382 [08:05] <DiskDaemon> Then contact your bank to find out what they can tell you about the problem.
#383 [08:05] <DiskDaemon> Gift cards tend to not be allowed to be used for the purchase of Minecraft.
#384 [08:06] * DiskDaemon waves hands - it's a security measure
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#385 [08:08] <hellomen> you can redeem gift cards
#386 [08:08] <hellomen> and the name are GIFT so earning on a survey is a gift for that user :D
#387 [08:09] <Necrodoom> if the surveys are real, that is
#388 [08:10] <hellomen> its from: epicfreeprizes.com
#389 [08:10] <DiskDaemon> It's not a good idea to attempt to use a gift card for the purchase of Minecraft
#390 [08:10] <hellomen> why not?
#391 [08:10] <hellomen> you always can give it a shot :d
#392 [08:10] <DiskDaemon> We have many people who troop through in to this channel with gift card problems when attemptiog to purchase
#393 [08:11] <TheNoodle> + haven't they been banned for use in international transactions? (from america)
#394 [08:11] <DiskDaemon> epic free prizes has a 0% trust score. http://www.scamadviser.com/is-epicfreeprizes.com-safe.html
#395 [08:11] <Necrodoom> 0% trust score? lol
#396 [08:13] <hellomen> you never can base something on a simple web site -.-
#397 [08:13] <hellomen> a website is build by humans
#398 [08:13] <DiskDaemon> hellomen: You are welcome to go ahead with your plans, but I advise caution
#399 [08:13] <hellomen> not by super computers
#400 [08:13] <hellomen> diskdaemon what you can lose if you only need to do 3 surveys with even a bypasser?
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#402 [08:14] <DiskDaemon> hellomen: You can lose your time, sometimes your money, and potentially your identity.
#403 [08:15] <hellomen> i dont have anything to hide
#404 [08:15] <hellomen> i dont fill in bank transaction
#405 [08:15] <hellomen> even i never use my main computer for bank things
#406 [08:15] <TheNoodle> If you have nothing to hide then chances are you give out too much info on the internet.
#407 [08:15] <DiskDaemon> I have nothing to hide either. My details are at http://protocol.by/PaulWilkins
#408 [08:15] <TheNoodle> Info others can use to steal your identity.
#409 [08:15] <hellomen> and time i have enough even when life is short
#410 [08:16] <TheNoodle> Why are we having this conversation -_-
#411 [08:16] <TheNoodle> hellomen, just wait until your payment is processed, grow up and have a little patience.
#412 [08:16] <DiskDaemon> This conversation is no longer on-topic.
#413 [08:16] <hellomen> because i paid for MC premium but didn't receive it
#414 [08:16] <Necrodoom> hellomen: your payment needs to get processed..
#415 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> hellomen: You haven't paid until you can demonstrate that the funds have left your bank account.
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#417 [08:17] <hellomen> im not going to show that here.
#418 [08:17] <DiskDaemon> We don't expect you to either.
#419 [08:18] <hellomen> anyways
#420 [08:18] <hellomen> 4 words
#421 [08:18] <hellomen> scam | scam and scam
#422 [08:18] <TheNoodle> And?
#423 [08:18] <hellomen> like i said:
#424 [08:18] <TheNoodle> Go away.
#425 [08:18] <hellomen> scam scam and scam
#426 [08:18] <TheNoodle> No one cares about your problems.
#427 [08:18] <Necrodoom> hellomen: impaitence killed the dog
#428 [08:18] <hellomen> but im not a dog -.-
#429 [08:18] <DiskDaemon> hellomen: If you haven't received the game then you haven't paid for it yet. Plain and simple.
#430 [08:19] <hellomen> jesus christ this game just sucks
#431 [08:19] <Necrodoom> hellomen: never heard of "curiosity killed the cat"?
#432 [08:19] <DiskDaemon> hellomen: Contact yout bank for further assistance.
#433 [08:19] <Necrodoom> hellomen: did you even emailed mojang about your problem>
#434 [08:19] <TheNoodle> haha
#435 [08:19] <DiskDaemon> snrk
#436 [08:19] <hellomen> yes i did
#437 [08:19] <hellomen> DD also asked me
#438 [08:19] <hellomen> -.-
#439 [08:19] <TheNoodle> Then why don't you wait for a reply from them?
#440 [08:20] <hellomen> because i MIGHT had more information here
#441 [08:20] <Necrodoom> takes just 2 months
#442 [08:20] <TheNoodle> :D
#443 [08:20] <Necrodoom> but since you have time to waste
#444 [08:20] <Necrodoom> its nothing for ya
#445 [08:20] * DiskDaemon shakes fist at wall
#445 [08:21] <Necrodoom> it seems like mojang is the only game that uses unoffical chat as billing support..
#446 [08:23] <DiskDaemon> We could just redirect everyone to email mojang, but...
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#451 [08:34] <IceGuest_77> hi, im trying to make coal auto fule my generator but its going int othe wrong slot
#452 [08:34] <IceGuest_77> is there a way to fix it?
#453 [08:35] <fantazmythe> it keeps going into the top slot and i need it to go into the bottom one
#454 [08:35] <fantazmythe> im using the tekkit mod
#455 [08:36] <Arle> ??> fantazmythe mods
#456 [08:36] <VoxelHead> fantazmythe: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#457 [08:36] <VoxelHead> fantazmythe: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#458 [08:37] <fantazmythe> is there a tekkit mod channel?
#459 [08:37] <Arle> I'm not sure...
#460 [08:38] <Arle> My client can't show me the full channel list :(
#461 [08:38] <Necrodoom> try techicforums
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#463 [08:39] <Ni4KO> any support here? :D
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#471 [09:03] <shauno213> hey can some one help me
#472 [09:03] <Calinou> yes?
#473 [09:03] <shauno213> cheers
#474 [09:04] <shauno213> i cant run minecraft every time i run it it says "could not find the main class: .net.minecraftlauncher. program will exit
#475 [09:05] <Calinou> are you using the "official" launcher? or a pirated launcher?
#476 [09:05] <Calinou> what operating system?
#477 [09:06] <shauno213> yea i downloaded it from minecraft website and its xp
#478 [09:06] <Calinou> try using this launcher instead: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#479 [09:06] <shauno213> my brother deleted it out of the %appdata% the whole folder will that have stuffed it
#480 [09:06] <Calinou> put it on your desktop and double-click, it should work
#481 [09:06] <Calinou> O_o
#482 [09:07] <Calinou> did he delete the WHOLE appdata folder? I hope not
#483 [09:07] <Calinou> also, what's your java version? latest one?
#484 [09:07] <shauno213> not the whole lot just the .minecraft
#485 [09:07] <shauno213> yea
#486 [09:07] <shauno213> yea some thing
#487 [09:08] <shauno213> so how do i fix it or i cant
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#489 [09:09] <fragvoer> hi
#490 [09:09] <Calinou> did you run the .jar? did it work?
#491 [09:09] <Calinou> hi fragvoer. don't ask to ask, we don't bite
#492 [09:09] <shauno213> yea tired didn't work
#493 [09:10] <shauno213> there is no folder in the %appdata% how do i get it back
#494 [09:10] <fragvoer> Im sort of new to this version of Minecraft, and i played one year ago for the last time.
#495 [09:11] <fragvoer> i started a new world but at night i cant find creepers :(
#496 [09:11] <fragvoer> its on survival mode, there should be creepers out there then?
#497 [09:11] <shauno213> so is there anything i can do
#498 [09:12] <Arle> fragvoer, there should be creepers
#499 [09:12] <Calinou> fragvoer, what difficulty?
#500 [09:13] <fragvoer> i only found some sheeps, cows and a chicken
#501 [09:13] <Calinou> creepers do not spawn in peaceful difficulty
#502 [09:13] <fragvoer> how can i change that? :P
#503 [09:13] <Calinou> they also only spawn in darkness, in night and caves, and never spawn on glass and half-blocks
#504 [09:13] <Calinou> fragvoer, options > difficulty
#505 [09:13] <Calinou> set to easy or above
#506 [09:13] <shauno213> Calinou help
#507 [09:13] <fragvoer> ahh there.. that was not when i was making this new world.
#508 [09:13] <fragvoer> it was on peacefull indeed.
#509 [09:14] <fragvoer> thanks :)
#510 [09:14] <Calinou> shauno213, never seen that kind of problem... you could try googling around; also if you want help, stay around in this channel
#511 [09:14] <Calinou> if you leave, you won't be able to get answers ;)
#512 [09:14] <shauno213> i tired googling nothing
#513 [09:14] <fragvoer> btw, what is the green digits i get after killing mobs?
#514 [09:15] <fragvoer> between health and foodbar, thats new for me to :P
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#516 [09:16] <GreyVulpine> That's experience
#517 [09:17] <fragvoer> ok, and does it has a usage for something? :P
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#519 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> So far, you trade it in for enchanting weapons/tools
#520 [09:18] <GreyVulpine> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchanting
#521 [09:20] <fragvoer> thanks! (=
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#523 [09:32] <Calinou> and armor. :P
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#525 [09:35] <Mark1902> Heyy
#526 [09:36] <Mark1902> Could someone help me please?
#527 [09:37] <GreyVulpine> With?
#528 [09:39] <Mark1902> Well
#529 [09:39] <Mark1902> I been on holiday
#530 [09:39] <Mark1902> And came back yesterday
#531 [09:39] <Mark1902> Before I left
#532 [09:39] <Mark1902> I was able to play
#533 [09:40] <Mark1902> But when i double click my Minecraft.exe
#534 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> What message do you get now when you try to run minecraft?
#535 [09:40] <Mark1902> Nothing happens at all
#536 [09:40] <Mark1902> None
#537 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Nothing?
#538 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> The application doesn't run at all?
#539 [09:40] <Mark1902> It just doesn't start
#540 [09:40] <Mark1902> Yep
#541 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you running?
#542 [09:40] <Mark1902> Windows 7 Home premium
#543 [09:40] <GreyVulpine> Could you please follow these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#544 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> Once you run the .bat file, it'll open up a black command prompt. Copy the error from that, to here
#545 [09:41] <Mark1902> Okay
#546 [09:41] <Mark1902> ty
#547 [09:41] <Mark1902> Do you have some time?
#548 [09:41] <GreyVulpine> Indeed.
#549 [09:41] <Mark1902> Im Dutch and I may have some probs lol
#550 [09:42] <Mark1902> Not very good with these stuff
#551 [09:42] <GreyVulpine> Please feel free to ask if you don't understand anything.
#552 [09:42] <Mark1902> Lol Problem 1
#553 [09:42] <Mark1902> The link doesnt work
#554 [09:43] <Mark1902> Page can't be showed
#555 [09:43] <GreyVulpine> Try: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#556 [09:43] <Mark1902> ty
#557 [09:43] <Mark1902> Works
#558 [09:45] <Mark1902> Btw
#559 [09:45] <Mark1902> I deleted my MC stuff
#560 [09:45] <Mark1902> Cus it doesnt work
#561 [09:45] <GreyVulpine> That's fine.
#562 [09:45] <Mark1902> No bin for now, is that a prob?
#563 [09:45] <Mark1902> Ikay
#564 [09:47] <Mark1902> I got this:
#565 [09:47] <Mark1902> Ehm
#566 [09:47] <Mark1902> How do I paste it here?
#567 [09:47] <Necrodoom> www,pastie.org
#568 [09:47] <Necrodoom> www.pastie.org
#569 [09:48] <Mark1902> I get this:
#570 [09:48] <Mark1902> http://pastie.org/4353349
#571 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Ah, corrupt java install
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#573 [09:48] <Mark1902> Oh
#574 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall java from your computer using the control panel in windows.
#575 [09:48] <GreyVulpine> Reinstall it from java.com
#576 [09:48] <Mark1902> Okay :D
#577 [09:49] <Mark1902> Deleting java now
#578 [09:50] <Mark1902> So ill be back in a few secs
#579 [09:50] * GreyVulpine nods
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#580 [09:52] <zwaaaa> greetings. Is there a child friendly server and a way to force join to that server when my son launches the client?
#581 [09:53] <Necrodoom> nope
#582 [09:53] <zwaaaa> ok, thanks
#583 [09:54] <Morrolan> There's a bunch of "family friendly" servers out there, where you may not swear and whatnot. Google might help.
#584 [09:54] <Morrolan> *sigh*
#585 [09:54] <Necrodoom> second thing isnt possible, though
#586 [09:54] <Morrolan> Forcing to join a server?
#587 [09:54] <Morrolan> Well, there's a command line parameter, yea.
#588 [09:55] <Morrolan> But nothing will prevent the user from just starting the launcher.
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#590 [09:56] <Mark1902> Back
#591 [09:56] <Mark1902> I hope it works
#592 [09:57] <Mark1902> YES!
#593 [09:57] <Mark1902> Ty so much!
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#600 [10:15] <Ori3nt> Hello ?
#601 [10:15] <Arle> Hi, Ori3nt
#602 [10:15] <Ori3nt> Having a problem with minecraft
#603 [10:16] <Arle> what's the problem?
#604 [10:16] <Ori3nt> its a java runtime problem
#605 [10:16] <Ori3nt> >>>
#606 [10:16] <Ori3nt> # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x00000000698e9670, pid=13212, tid=2836 # # JRE version: 7.0_05-b06 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (23.1-b03 mixed mode windows-amd64 compressed oops) # Problematic frame: # C [atio6axx.dll+0x8b9670] atiPS+0x5050a0 # # Failed to write core dump. Minidumps are not enabled by default on client versions o
#607 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> Update your ATI video drivers from:
#608 [10:17] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/amd
#609 [10:17] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#610 [10:20] <Ori3nt> what do i need to update to?
#611 [10:21] <Ori3nt> my graphics card is atd radeon hd 5450
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#613 [10:22] <needhelp> hello
#614 [10:22] <Ori3nt> hi
#615 [10:22] <needhelp> i was wondering if i could get some help
#616 [10:22] <Ori3nt> right
#617 [10:22] <needhelp> w/ my account and previous account
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#620 [10:24] <needhelp> you see i had an account but i forgot the password to it so i tried reseting the password and i couldnt remember my AOL account password so pretty much im f'd but i was wondering if there was any way to get that account back since i bought the game on that account
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#622 [10:25] <GreyVulpine> needhelp - Contact Mojang through: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#623 [10:26] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to submit your transaction ID to confirm that you purchased the account in question
#624 [10:26] <needhelp> alright ill see if i can find it thank you!
#625 [10:28] <Morrolan> Mind you that you'll have to wait a while to get a response, they are badly backlogged.
#626 [10:28] <Morrolan> So don't submit multiple tickets if you don't get an immediate response, would only make things worse for them. ;)
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#630 [10:37] <needhelp> no i wasnt ganna do that i just sent them one message telling them my problem, will they answer me over email or on the mojang website?
#631 [10:38] <Morrolan> They'll send you an e-mail.
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#640 [11:19] <Nathan2055> Could this actually work? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/File:2012-02-17_20.01.55.png
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#642 [11:22] <Nathan2055> Anyone here?
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#646 [11:34] <piacent> cant get minecraft to run. keep getting a message saying opengl support not found. Can anyone help?
#647 [11:36] <ngc0202> piacent: try updating your drivers?
#648 [11:36] <lutzee> Try updating your graphics drivers, you will have to download the latest from the correct website
#649 [11:36] <lutzee> do you know what your graphics card is?
#650 [11:37] <piacent> mobile intel (r) 4 series express chipset family
#651 [11:37] <piacent> cant seem to update it
#652 [11:37] <lutzee> ?? drivers/intel
#653 [11:37] <lutzee> er
#654 [11:37] <lutzee> ?? gpu/intel
#655 [11:37] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#656 [11:38] <lutzee> two weeks and i forgot everything \o/, ^ try there
#657 [11:39] <piacent> ok just had a look there. they dont offer the driver for XP :(
#658 [11:40] <lutzee> Ah right, we can't help you much, but you computer doesn't have the compatibility with some of the minecraft code
#659 [11:40] <piacent> it is as I feared.
#660 [11:40] <piacent> Thank you for your help
#661 [11:41] <piacent> :(
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#675 [12:28] <DJRWolf> I have downloaded the .jar file and changed it to RWX but linux just opens it as an archive file and does not run it
#676 [12:29] <lutzee> open terminal, change to the jar files directory, run "java -jar minecraft.jar"
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#682 [12:40] <Dany0> really?
#683 [12:40] <Guest53842> Hello. can anyone help me?
#684 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> Dany0, Guest53842: yes?
#685 [12:40] <Guest53842> I can connect to my VPS server fine on a windows computer
#686 [12:40] <Guest53842> however my friend, who is on a mac , can't.
#687 [12:41] <Guest53842> And we are on the same network
#688 [12:41] <Dany0> hey guys, does anyone have any elaborate specs for .schematic? I tried to search the MCEdit source but couldn't find the schematic loading function. also why isn't the worldedit plugin for bukkit open source?
#689 [12:41] <lutzee> Dany0, ask in #sk89q we have no affiliation with that stuff
#690 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: Can you give me the IP?
#691 [12:41] <Dany0> what the hell is sk89q?
#692 [12:41] <lutzee> The channel for all the worldedit stuff
#693 [12:42] <Guest53842> slapcraft.nmb1.creeperhost.net
#694 [12:42] <Dany0> okay
#695 [12:42] <Dany0> lutzee why is it named like that/
#696 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> !check slapcraft.nmb1.creeperhost.net
#697 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> because his username is sk89q
#698 [12:42] <lutzee> ^ the guy who's behind the plugins
#699 [12:42] <Dany0> ah
#700 [12:42] <Dany0> okay...
#701 [12:42] <Dany0> okay...
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#703 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: Are you sure the port number is correct?
#704 [12:43] <Guest53842> even 25565 doesn't work
#705 [12:43] <Guest53842> yeah, works for me on win7
#706 [12:43] <Guest53842> doesn't work on his mac
#707 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: for shared minecraft hosting, you should be given a port number for users to connect to
#708 [12:43] <Guest53842> and I copied over my .minecraft for him, since it is modded
#709 [12:43] <Guest53842> It's a VPS.
#710 [12:43] <Guest53842> dedicated IP
#711 [12:44] <Guest53842> doesn't need a port anyway
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#713 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: it does, even for dedicated IP
#714 [12:44] <Guest53842> okay, we just put the IP in with the port for him
#715 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> check if the port number in server.properties and the one he's connecting to are consistent
#716 [12:44] <Guest53842> still doesn't wok
#717 [12:44] <lutzee> Not if you on the default port
#718 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: (which is why I brought up the second message)
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#720 [12:45] <lutzee> mm, you could just post a ticket with creeperhost and see what they say, they might know more about whats going on.
#721 [12:46] <Guest53842> Well
#722 [12:46] <Guest53842> what's odd is
#723 [12:46] <Guest53842> it works on windows machines perfectly fine
#724 [12:46] <tyteen4a03> that could be a solution, but I want to check if it's really a problem with his host or a misconfiguration in his server.properties
#725 [12:46] <Guest53842> he can connect to other servers, perfectly fine
#726 [12:47] <Guest53842> that are on the same node
#727 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: did you just say "same node"?
#728 [12:47] <Guest53842> yeah.
#729 [12:47] <Guest53842> same node as nmb1
#730 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> as in, other machines on the same server cluster and might be sharing the same IP?
#731 [12:47] <Guest53842> and can connect to their french servers
#732 [12:47] <Guest53842> we are on the same network
#733 [12:47] <Guest53842> as in
#734 [12:47] <Guest53842> in the same house
#735 [12:48] <Guest53842> he's a flatmate
#736 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: could he, by any chance, running Hamachi?
#737 [12:48] <lutzee> Sigh creeperhost will assign every server a unique IP,
#738 [12:49] <Guest53842> He's not running hamachi
#739 [12:49] <lutzee> tyteen4a03, they are using one of the largest hosting companies ofcourse not..
#740 [12:49] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: What do you mean?
#741 [12:49] <lutzee> They rent a server from a large company
#742 [12:50] <lutzee> hamachi is only needed when you running a server yourself from your home machine
#743 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: No, I checked the ip of the address and it is under the 5.x.x.x range, which could be rerouted by Hamachi
#744 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> that's why I aSK
#745 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> *ask
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#747 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: can he reach this website? 5.9.233.232
#748 [12:51] <hookz_> can anyone here help me? my minecraft keeps crashing.. (no warnings or pop-ups)
#749 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: Can you elaborate?
#750 [12:51] <hookz_> hm?
#751 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: can you describe the problem more?
#752 [12:52] <hookz_> ahh sure, well i run minecraft.exe .. login etc etc.. pick singleplayer (or multi) and then i can play for up to 1-2 mins
#753 [12:52] <lutzee> When does it happen?
#754 [12:52] <hookz_> then it simply closes down
#755 [12:52] <hookz_> 1-2 mins after i log into a server
#756 [12:52] <lutzee> Sounds like out of memory or graphics fail because bad drivers
#757 [12:52] <hookz_> or singleplayer for that matter
#758 [12:53] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: Is a java_pid_something.txt found on your desktop?
#759 [12:53] <hookz_> i have updated my driver,
#760 [12:53] <Guest53842> he put it on the web browser
#761 [12:53] <hookz_> hmm, 2 sec tyteen
#762 [12:53] <Guest53842> and it just sticks at connecting
#763 [12:53] <hookz_> nope, no .txt's on my desktop
#764 [12:53] <lutzee> ??> hookz_ win/dxdiag
#765 [12:53] <VoxelHead> hookz_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#766 [12:53] <VoxelHead> hookz_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#767 [12:53] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest53842 mac/hosts
#768 [12:53] <VoxelHead> Guest53842: (mac/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#769 [12:53] <VoxelHead> Guest53842: (mac/hosts) From the finder toolbar, search for the following item: "/private/etc/hosts". Open that file in the text editor, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#770 [12:53] <tyteen4a03> Please do that on his computer
#771 [12:54] <hookz_> hmm, 2 sec i'll try that.
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#773 [12:55] <Guest53842> he put it in
#774 [12:55] <Guest53842> and it doesn't exist
#775 [12:55] <hookz_> running it now ^^
#776 [12:56] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: try opening Terminal, and type in this command: "sudo nano /private/etc/hosts"
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#778 [12:56] <tyteen4a03> enter password when prompted
#779 [12:56] <matt816> anyone know how to find when you created your minecraft account?
#780 [12:57] <Guest53842> okay, it's open
#781 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: copy all its content, and paste it on pastebin.com
#782 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> give us the URL when done
#783 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> matt816: I'm not aware of this information
#784 [12:57] <hookz_> @Voxelhead : http://pastebin.com/G1BxR3xV
#785 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> this information being public
#786 [12:58] <hookz_> yeah, got no probs. with that ^^
#787 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> ??> hookz_ bot
#788 [12:58] <VoxelHead> hookz_: (bot) I just type quickly.
#789 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: [00:57] <hookz_> @Voxelhead : http://pastebin.com/G1BxR3xV
#790 [12:58] <lutzee> I saw
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#792 [12:58] <lutzee> now i'm confused :p i expected to see some low spec PC
#793 [12:59] <hookz_> ^^ it felt that way ^^
#794 [12:59] <hookz_> i'll upgrade it later, i had to put together a pc fast a half year ago :P
#795 [12:59] <lutzee> 4gb of memory should be fine
#796 [12:59] <Sam> http://pastebin.com/xKZfYqUG\
#797 [12:59] <Sam> http://pastebin.com/xKZfYqUG
#798 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: close or uninstall softwares you don't need
#799 [12:59] <lutzee> 5800 series shouldn't hurt minecraft
#800 [12:59] <Sam> There is the pastebin, for the mac one, I'm on the mac now
#801 [12:59] <hookz_> well, im running out of hard disc space, but i'll upgrade it next week.
#802 [13:00] <lutzee> But i guess only option is update it's driver
#803 [13:00] <hookz_> software that i don't need /aka???
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#805 [13:00] <lutzee> ?? gpu/amd
#806 [13:00] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#807 [13:00] <Guest53842> that's my friend sam, for the pastebin
#808 [13:00] <lutzee> hookz_, close stuff like web browser when running minecraft
#809 [13:00] <lutzee> hookz_, close stuff like web browser when running minecraft
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#811 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> Sam: except adobe cracks, I don't see anything that could block your internet... are you sure LogMeIn or Hamachi isn't running?
#812 [13:00] <matt816> is there a way to find out when i created my minecraft account?
#813 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> matt816: I am not aware that this information is public
#814 [13:01] <hookz_> i did, im running it in exploror (ofc) i did try to run it via. the browser aswell.. and with everything else closed.. did the same thing
#815 [13:01] <lutzee> matt816, you should have recieved an email confirming creation
#816 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: do you, by any chance, have 2 antivirus running?
#817 [13:01] <matt816> yes i did but....well i deleted it a long time ago
#818 [13:02] <Sam> Nope, no log me in hamachi running
#819 [13:02] <hookz_> nope, only got AVG - i had to uninstall essentials after i removed some trojans.
#820 [13:02] <hookz_> meaning, that i uninstalled it a few mins ago ;P (i wondered if any of them was blocking it)
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#822 [13:02] <lutzee> hookz_, try updating your graphics drivers from here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#823 [13:03] <hookz_> @ Lutzee - kk, give me two mins.
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#825 [13:04] <Sam> tried disabling iptables
#826 [13:04] <Sam> on the VPS
#827 [13:04] <Sam> still no luck
#828 [13:05] <tyteen4a03> Sam: hmm
#829 [13:05] <hookz_> @Lutzee, you wouldn't by any chance know somewhere i can check which upgrades i need to do on my pc (aint that.. good with building them ;D) and perhaps a good harddisk while we are waiting ;D ?
#830 [13:05] <Guest53842> yeah
#831 [13:05] <Guest53842> no idea why that isn't working
#832 [13:06] <lutzee> I use pcpartpicker.com to compile my parts :)
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#834 [13:06] <hookz_> ahh, okay thanks !
#835 [13:06] <hookz_> hm, the update software takes a while to download :S (slow net as heck..) 8 mins togo xD
#836 [13:07] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: other than possible softwares running on the mac that blocks this IP (i.e Hamachi), I have no idea either
#837 [13:07] <hookz_> /afk
#838 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: Does the mac have a firewall?
#839 [13:08] <lutzee> http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/bv5L want to get this built allready..
#840 [13:08] <Guest53842> nope, no firewall
#841 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: remind me again, when you try to visit 5.9.233.232 it doesn't load, right?
#842 [13:09] <Guest53842> correct
#843 [13:09] <Sam> just says 'connecting'
#844 [13:09] <Guest53842> it does for me
#845 [13:09] <Guest53842> perfectly fine..
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#847 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> Sam: Can you boot into Safe Boot Mode and visit 5.9.233.232 on your browser again? How to boot into safe boot: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1564
#848 [13:10] <Sam> will do now.
#849 [13:10] <hookz_> @lutzee nice! but the issue im having is that i don't know what's in my pc (that i need to upgrade) :S i basically bought a complete self-build pack. and then downloaded a manual on the webs :S
#850 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> Guest53842: if he can visit 5.9.233.232 and Google.com in Safe Boot Mode, then it means something on his mac is blocking the connection (usually anti-virus or hamachi), if not it's probably his router
#851 [13:12] <lutzee> Your graphics card while okay is 2 series old now you could double your ram, depends how much you have to spend
#852 [13:12] <Rikairchy> typically
#853 [13:12] <Rikairchy> when you download a file from the internet
#854 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: tried the moreram factoid yet?
#855 [13:12] <Rikairchy> some OSes (depending on security settings) will block certain features of it
#856 [13:12] <hookz_> hmm, i'd spend .. 100 bucks on it? or something, i just want it to run abit faster perhaps? while running fraps and editing
#857 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: he just mentioned that he can visit other servers, so that's out of the question
#858 [13:13] <Rikairchy> ah
#859 [13:13] <lutzee> tyteen4a03, he has 4gb which should be fine,
#860 [13:13] <Rikairchy> but he has a Mac, which isnt >.>
#861 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> and he can't visit the IP's website either (which is just a centos default page but still)
#862 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> lutz: sometimes java just refuses to use it all
#863 [13:13] <hookz_> i really need a new hard disk xD.. already filled out the one i have atm (13.7gigs left) so i'll def. need to buy a bigger one
#864 [13:13] <lutzee> hookz_, er thats really not much... only thing i can say is faster ram'
#865 [13:14] <lutzee> hookz_, clear it out you must have tons of shit on there :D
#866 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: Open your task manager, can you tell me how many processes are there?
#867 [13:14] <hookz_> @lutzee well i only have around 100 bucks to spend this month, but next month i'll have about.. 400 bucks more then.
#868 [13:14] <hookz_> lots and lots xD haha,
#869 [13:14] <lutzee> haha thats a bit better
#870 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: exact amount?
#871 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: also consider external drives if you need to store a lot of files
#872 [13:15] <hookz_> 32 processes :P
#873 [13:15] <Rikairchy> hookz_
#874 [13:15] <hookz_> yup?
#875 [13:15] <lutzee> best thing i can advise is watch PC part videos, give yourself an understanding of what is good
#876 [13:15] <Rikairchy> can you visit the website on another computer on your network?
#877 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: wrong target
#878 [13:15] <hookz_> i do have a extern harddisk lying around, i mainly use it for pictures and excel files :P
#879 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: Tick Show all processes on the bottom of the task list
#880 [13:16] <Rikairchy> meh
#881 [13:16] <Rikairchy> i'll just go back to sleep then
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#883 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: The person in question is Guest53842
#884 [13:16] <Rikairchy> Guest53842
#885 [13:16] <Rikairchy> can you visit the website on another computer on your network?
#886 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> and I can use your help
#887 [13:16] <hookz_> @tyteen 80 processes :S
#888 [13:16] <Rikairchy> hi tyteen4a03
#889 [13:16] <Guest53842> yup
#890 [13:16] <Guest53842> I can visit it
#891 [13:16] <Guest53842> gives me the apache page
#892 [13:16] <Sam> ok, so i can now get to the apache server test page...
#893 [13:16] <Rikairchy> so its on your Mac itself then
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#895 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> Sam: it's your mac then
#896 [13:17] <hookz_> @lutzee running the update software atm.
#897 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> Sam: Something is blocking
#898 [13:17] <Freshcliff> Hello every1
#899 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> hi
#900 [13:17] <Guest53842> any quick way of finding out what could be causing it?
#901 [13:17] <Rikairchy> wait is it Sam or Guest53842 that needs help
#902 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: Click on Memory tab and let it sort
#903 [13:17] <Sam> any ideas of ways around it? its my mac.
#904 [13:17] <Rikairchy> Guest53842: disable firewalss
#905 [13:17] <Rikairchy> walls*
#906 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: tell me the 3 processes that uses the most memory, and list their name
#907 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> Sam: hang on, I will find a way to detect this
#908 [13:17] <hookz_> @tyteen kk,
#909 [13:17] <Freshcliff> Anyone figure out the problem started in June - Logging in and closing/disappearing immediately?
#910 [13:17] <Sam> thanks a lot
#911 [13:18] <Freshcliff> XP SP3 - Tried uninstall etc
#912 [13:18] <hookz_> @tyteen Firefox 167k skype 72k (atm, catalyst installer - updating my software) but 4th is ie with 42k
#913 [13:19] <Rikairchy> so tyteen4a03
#914 [13:19] <Rikairchy> is it Guest53842 or Sam that has the mac issue
#915 [13:19] <Rikairchy> or both
#916 [13:19] <Guest53842> both, sam flat
#917 [13:19] <Guest53842> ;p
#918 [13:19] <hookz_> @lutzee the update is done
#919 [13:19] <Guest53842> but sam mainly
#920 [13:19] <Rikairchy> ??< index
#921 [13:19] <Rikairchy> mk
#922 [13:19] <Rikairchy> both of you are having the same issue right?
#923 [13:19] <tyteen4a03> hookz_: try closing firefox and skype when playing minecraft
#924 [13:19] <hookz_> @kk, i'll move to ie then. 2 sec
#925 [13:20] <hookz_> brb
#926 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: it's Sam's machine, but Guest53842 came here first
#927 [13:20] <Sam> no, its my mac with the problem
#928 [13:20] <Sam> thats the one. :)
#929 [13:20] <Rikairchy> the hell
#930 [13:20] <Rikairchy> ?? Sam Mac/profile
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#932 [13:20] <Rikairchy> err\
#933 [13:20] <Rikairchy> ??< Sam Mac/profile
#934 [13:20] <Hookz> back
#935 [13:20] <Rikairchy> wtf.
#936 [13:20] <Rikairchy> i hate this bot
#937 [13:21] <Rikairchy> ?? mac/profile
#938 [13:21] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#939 [13:21] <VoxelHead> mac/profile: Please create a new system account (System Preferences => Accounts, log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#940 [13:21] <Sam> right ok. ill reboot and try that. thanks
#941 [13:21] <Hookz> @Lutzee it still closes down
#942 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: it just doesn't ignore cases
#943 [13:22] <Hookz> i just cut down a tree and it closed
#944 [13:22] <Rikairchy> [13:20:34] -VoxelHead- I don't have an entry in my databse for the keyword, sam mac/profile. For a link to a list of entries, check the keyword index.
#945 [13:22] <Rikairchy> ??> Rikairchy index
#946 [13:22] <VoxelHead> Rikairchy: (index) See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#947 [13:22] <Rikairchy> ohu
#948 [13:22] <lutzee> Hookz, hmm right we need an error report
#949 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> because the 2 argument only applies to ??> ?
#950 [13:22] <Freshcliff> Has anyone had the launcher close directly after log in and loading with no other window or start?
#951 [13:22] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#952 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> ??< win/client/moreram
#953 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Freshcliff - On what operating system?
#954 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> XP SP3
#955 [13:23] <Freshcliff> XP sp3
#956 [13:23] <Rikairchy> ??> Rikairchy linux/dontdothis
#957 [13:23] <VoxelHead> Rikairchy: (linux/dontdothis) :():{:&:};:
#958 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Freshcliff - Please attempt to run minecraft with these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#959 [13:23] <Rikairchy> i wanna do that
#960 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> not sure what it does
#961 [13:23] <Freshcliff> TY - will be right back
#962 [13:23] <Rikairchy> me either
#963 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Freshcliff - When minecraft doesn't run, please copy the error from the black command prompt to pastebin.com and give us the URL
#964 [13:23] <Rikairchy> looks like a loop
#965 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> !wiki fork bomb
#966 [13:23] <GreyBot> Wikipedia Found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
#967 [13:23] <GreyBot> In computing, the fork bomb is a form of denial-of-service attack against a computer system which makes use of the fork operation (or equivalent functionality) whereby a running process can create another running process. Fork bombs typically do not spread as worms or viruses; to incapacitate a system, they rely on the (generally valid) assumption that the number
#968 [13:23] <GreyBot> of programs and processes which may execute simultaneously on a computer has a limit. This type of self-replicating program is sometimes called a wabbit, bacteria or rabbit programs. Wabbits can be programmed to have (malicious) side effects.
#969 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> ^
#970 [13:23] <GreyVulpine> Read
#971 [13:24] <Rikairchy> rofl
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#973 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: you could have replied with a simple while 1: os.fork() :P
#974 [13:24] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 were you there when lymia forkbombed feepbot?
#975 [13:24] <GreyVulpine> Pfft
#976 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: not sure
#977 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> maybe not
#978 [13:24] <Triert> Hello, can anyone help me with my server problems
#979 [13:24] <Rikairchy> he came ragin
#980 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> Triert: Yes?
#981 [13:24] <Triert> I can't connect to my own server
#982 [13:24] <Rikairchy> hi Triert
#983 [13:24] <Rikairchy> is it running?
#984 [13:24] <Triert> I'll run it right now
#985 [13:25] <Triert> but
#986 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> Triert: can you give us the IP of the server?
#987 [13:25] <Triert> Yeah
#988 [13:25] <Rikairchy> what address are you using to connect?
#989 [13:25] <Rikairchy> if its on your computer, try 127.0.0.1
#990 [13:25] <Triert> I've used a netgear port foward
#991 [13:25] <Triert> the 192.168 thing
#992 [13:25] <ngc0202> ^^
#993 [13:25] <Rikairchy> yeah
#994 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> try 127.0.0.1 first
#995 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> ngc0202: Yes?
#996 [13:25] <GreyVulpine> With what port, and to what ip address?
#997 [13:25] <Triert> my WAN
#998 [13:26] <Rikairchy> is your IP address static on your router?
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#1000 [13:26] <Triert> the one that I got from "Whats my IP"
#1001 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> whose IP address is?
#1002 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> You're port forwarding to your WAN address?
#1003 [13:26] <Rikairchy> why
#1004 [13:26] <Rikairchy> clarjon1 hi
#1005 [13:26] <Triert> no
#1006 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> That would be the wrong thing to do
#1007 [13:26] <Triert> I haven't
#1008 [13:26] <Triert> I HAVENT
#1009 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Then.
#1010 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: what is the factoid for not filling the IP thing into server.properties?
#1011 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> With what port, and to what ip address?
#1012 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> No idea
#1013 [13:26] <Triert> I've used my net gear port foward up until now
#1014 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Triert - Double check your port forwarding settings
#1015 [13:26] <GreyVulpine> Did it change?
#1016 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> properties/server-ip
#1017 [13:26] <tyteen4a03> there we go
#1018 [13:26] <Rikairchy> and your local IP on your network
#1019 [13:27] <Triert> i've been looking over them
#1020 [13:27] <Triert> whats that for tyteen
#1021 [13:27] <Rikairchy> go to the server.properties file
#1022 [13:27] <Rikairchy> and see if there is an address in there
#1023 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> Triert: oh, wasn't talking to you
#1024 [13:27] <Triert> I never had to put an IP there
#1025 [13:28] <Rikairchy> good
#1026 [13:28] <Rikairchy> okay
#1027 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> Yes, because you shouldn't, we're just checking
#1028 [13:28] <Triert> ok
#1029 [13:28] <Rikairchy> what OS are you on?
#1030 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> so Rikairchy, you can handle this while I go to bed :P
#1031 [13:28] <Triert> What's an OS?
#1032 [13:28] <Rikairchy> yeah ma-
#1033 [13:28] <Rikairchy> no
#1034 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> ?? os
#1035 [13:28] <VoxelHead> os: Some examples of operating systems are Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Mac OS X Leopard, Mac OS X Snow Leopard, Mac OS X Lion, Ubuntu Linux, Fedora Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Arch Linux.
#1036 [13:28] <Rikairchy> i cnat
#1037 [13:28] <Rikairchy> cant*
#1038 [13:28] <Triert> I'm on a windows 7
#1039 [13:28] <GreyVulpine> Triert - Have you double checked your port forwarding settings?
#1040 [13:29] <Triert> everything is as it should be
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#1042 [13:29] <GreyVulpine> What port are you port forwarding with?
#1043 [13:29] <Rikairchy> have you checked your local IP?
#1044 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> Sam: any luck?
#1045 [13:29] <Triert> local IP?
#1046 [13:29] <Rikairchy> yes
#1047 [13:29] <Sam> hello. I just tried on a new account. no luck
#1048 [13:29] <Rikairchy> the 192.168 address
#1049 [13:29] <Triert> yes, it's the same
#1050 [13:29] <Rikairchy> Sam: its an issue with your Mac itself then
#1051 [13:29] <Rikairchy> Triert: double check
#1052 [13:29] <Rikairchy> make sure its still being forwarded to the right address
#1053 [13:29] <Triert> i have it open in another tab
#1054 [13:30] <Rikairchy> whats your local IP
#1055 [13:30] <Triert> The very same I've used to try to log in
#1056 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: you have more mac experience than I do, I will hand Sam over to you I guess
#1057 [13:30] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03: i just have more google experience :S
#1058 [13:30] <Triert> Do I need to give it out?
#1059 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: so we're both googling, great
#1060 [13:30] <Rikairchy> yes Triert
#1061 [13:30] <Rikairchy> ??> Sam mac/hosts
#1062 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Sam: (mac/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1063 [13:30] <VoxelHead> Sam: (mac/hosts) From the finder toolbar, search for the following item: "/private/etc/hosts". Open that file in the text editor, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1064 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: done, nothing found
#1065 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> except a few adobe cracks entries
#1066 [13:31] <Triert> 192.168.1.4
#1067 [13:31] <Rikairchy> Triert: run the server on your computer
#1068 [13:31] <Rikairchy> and from the same computer
#1069 [13:31] <Triert> It's been on
#1070 [13:31] <Rikairchy> go to multiplayer, then direct connect
#1071 [13:31] <Rikairchy> and type in "localhost"
#1072 [13:31] <Rikairchy> without quotes
#1073 [13:32] <Sam> is this for triert?
#1074 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> Sam: yes
#1075 [13:32] <Triert> I'm in
#1076 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> Sam: If you have disabled iptables, disable ufw as well
#1077 [13:32] <Rikairchy> okay
#1078 [13:32] <Triert> will i have to do that each time?
#1079 [13:32] <Rikairchy> so you can connect locally right?
#1080 [13:33] <Rikairchy> Triert do you want other people to join too?
#1081 [13:33] <Sam> ok two secs
#1082 [13:33] <Freshcliff> - GreyVulpine - TY - Here it is - http://pastebin.com/D07Bri2M
#1083 [13:33] <Triert> Yes, I was going to have my server be a server for my website before I stopped being able to connect how I always do
#1084 [13:33] <Triert> I've given out the WAN to people to connect to it before
#1085 [13:34] <GreyVulpine> Freshcliff - Interesting, did you install any mods or texture packs?
#1086 [13:34] <Sam> no change
#1087 [13:34] <tyteen4a03> Triert: and they could?
#1088 [13:34] <Triert> yes
#1089 [13:34] <Rikairchy> i still think its a port issue
#1090 [13:34] <Triert> what could be the problem if it is then
#1091 [13:35] <Rikairchy> different addresses
#1092 [13:35] <Rikairchy> the rule might have been removed
#1093 [13:35] <Freshcliff> -GreyVulpine - No - The player/kid wanted to but got lost - not knowing how
#1094 [13:35] <Rikairchy> a firewall even
#1095 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Freshcliff - Have you cleared your %appdata%/.minecraft folder yet? Go to your start menu, in the Run command, type in: %appdata%
#1096 [13:35] <Triert> I say it's a firewall
#1097 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Freshcliff - Find the .minecraft folder. Delete everything inside except for the 'saves' folder.
#1098 [13:35] <Rikairchy> what firewall have you got
#1099 [13:35] <Triert> I did an update yesterday, I have a gut feeling it's related to that
#1100 [13:35] <GreyVulpine> Freshcliff - Then attempt to run minecraft again
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#1102 [13:35] <Triert> Windows Firewall with advanced security
#1103 [13:35] <Rikairchy> make sure you add exceptions for ports 25565
#1104 [13:35] <Rikairchy> haha
#1105 [13:36] <Rikairchy> windows firewall
#1106 [13:36] <Freshcliff> -GreyVulpine - Yes I did that And went through registry deleting all refs of minecraft
#1107 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> Sam: so you still can't visit 5.9.233.232?
#1108 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> oh wait, hang on
#1109 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> !check 5.9.233.232
#1110 [13:36] * tyteen4a03 facepalm
#1110 [13:36] <Triert> exceptions for ports?
#1111 [13:36] <Rikairchy> lol
#1112 [13:36] <Rikairchy> its up
#1113 [13:36] <Rikairchy> Triert: allows them to be used unhindered
#1114 [13:37] <Triert> how do i do that
#1115 [13:37] <Sam> nope
#1116 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: but Sam's flatmate just said he could connect to the server just fine
#1117 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> damn it
#1118 [13:37] <Rikairchy> on the same network
#1119 [13:37] <Triert> I just tried to get a friend to connect, it wouldn't work
#1120 [13:37] <Triert> No
#1121 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> ??> Triert only/you
#1122 [13:37] <VoxelHead> Triert: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#1123 [13:37] <VoxelHead> Triert: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#1124 [13:38] <Triert> gah
#1125 [13:38] <Freshcliff> After clearing appdata - Including SAVES - I tried new load with 'options' and 'force update'
#1126 [13:38] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 one can connect to the site on the same network
#1127 [13:38] <Rikairchy> the other can't
#1128 [13:38] <Rikairchy> right?
#1129 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: yes
#1130 [13:38] <Sam> right
#1131 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> !check 5.9.233.232:80
#1132 [13:38] <Rikairchy> lol
#1133 [13:38] <Triert> anyways
#1134 [13:38] <Rikairchy> i got it up though
#1135 [13:38] <Rikairchy> okay
#1136 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> I can visit the site normal, but not AuBot and Sam
#1137 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> *normally
#1138 [13:39] <Freshcliff> -GreyVulpine - Doing it again - as instructed !
#1139 [13:39] <Rikairchy> go to terminal
#1140 [13:39] <Rikairchy> Sam: open up a terminal
#1141 [13:39] <Sam> check
#1142 [13:39] <Triert> how do i unhinder them
#1143 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: nevermind, it's the server's problem: http://www.isup.me/5.9.233.232
#1144 [13:41] <Rikairchy> type in "traceroute 5.9.233.232"
#1145 [13:41] * Kirontanvir [Kirontanvir@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1146 [13:41] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 then why can i load it
#1147 [13:41] <Kirontanvir> Hi
#1148 [13:41] <Rikairchy> and why did it say google was down all yesterday
#1149 [13:41] <Kirontanvir> Is there anyone that can help me?
#1150 [13:41] <Triert> I'm on the waiting list
#1151 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: it did say that?
#1152 [13:41] <Sam> check
#1153 [13:41] <Rikairchy> http://www.isup.me/google.com
#1154 [13:41] <Kirontanvir> I have two accounts in one email, and i want to take one account out of it.
#1155 [13:41] <Triert> :I
#1156 [13:41] <Kirontanvir> Can someone help me with this issue?
#1157 [13:41] <ngc0202> That site seems to always tthink sites are down
#1158 [13:41] <Sam> no route to host
#1159 [13:41] <Rikairchy> Kirontanvir: log in to the other account
#1160 [13:41] <Rikairchy> and change emails
#1161 [13:41] <Triert> I use windows firewall, how do I unhinder the ports
#1162 [13:41] * Freshcliff [Freshcliff@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1163 [13:41] <Rikairchy> on minecraft.net
#1164 [13:41] <Kirontanvir> No both accounts are migrated to the same email :I
#1165 [13:41] <Rikairchy> Triert: use a decent firewall
#1166 [13:41] <Rikairchy> oh
#1167 [13:41] <Kirontanvir> Yea
#1168 [13:41] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1169 [13:41] <Rikairchy> i cannot help with that :|
#1170 [13:41] <Kirontanvir> sometime ago, when it was still ok.
#1171 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> Kirontanvir: Email mojang about this issue at help.mojang.com
#1172 [13:41] <Triert> I've done it before when I got a hamachi server up a long time ago, before it was limited to 8 people
#1173 [13:41] <Kirontanvir> Thank you.
#1174 [13:41] <Rikairchy> Triert thats different
#1175 [13:41] <Rikairchy> disable your firewall
#1176 [13:41] <Rikairchy> and see if that helps
#1177 [13:41] <Rikairchy> if it doesnt its gotta be a port issue.
#1178 [13:43] <Kealper> woh, laggy internet here for a few
#1179 [13:43] <Triert> well, thing to click
#1180 [13:43] <lutzee> o.o that was odd
#1181 [13:43] <Sam> mix of host is down and no route to host
#1182 [13:43] <Kealper> aubot lagged out and got the last pack of messages all at once
#1183 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> !check 5.9.233.232:80
#1184 [13:43] <Triert> I've never disabled my own firewall btw
#1185 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> now AuBot's dead
#1186 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> Kealper: please -q Rikairchy
#1187 [13:43] <Kealper> i'll just have aubot deopped while i'm abusing my internet
#1188 [13:44] <Kealper> derp
#1189 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> [01:42] * AuBot sets mode: +q *!~Rik@rikairchy.net
#1190 [13:44] <Kealper> oh
#1191 [13:44] <Triert> so if its a porting problem
#1192 [13:44] <Freshcliff> Back
#1193 [13:44] <Triert> how could i fix it
#1194 [13:44] <Rikairchy> lol
#1195 [13:44] <Freshcliff> Is GreyVulpine still here?
#1196 [13:44] <Rikairchy> Triert
#1197 [13:44] <Rikairchy> disable the firewall
#1198 [13:45] <Triert> how?
#1199 [13:45] <Rikairchy> what firewall do you use?
#1200 [13:45] * tyteen4a03 pokes GreyVulpine
#1200 [13:45] <Freshcliff> lol
#1201 [13:45] <Triert> Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
#1202 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> Sam: Can you pastebin the traceroute?
#1203 [13:45] <Rikairchy> Triert are you the admin?
#1204 [13:46] <Triert> I can run it as one
#1205 [13:46] <Sam> sure
#1206 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: can you take over Sam's case, I really should be in bed
#1207 [13:46] <Triert> Won't this leave me open to hackers?
#1208 [13:46] <Rikairchy> Click Start, click Control Panel, click Network and Internet, and then under Windows Firewall, click Turn Windows Firewall on or off. On the General tab of the Windows Firewall Settings dialog box, select Off (not recommended), and then click OK.
#1209 [13:46] <Rikairchy> no
#1210 [13:46] <Rikairchy> well
#1211 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: is it a no to me? ;_;
#1212 [13:46] <Rikairchy> not any less open than you are running windows firewall
#1213 [13:46] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 it was a no to Triert
#1214 [13:46] <Freshcliff> -smiles -
#1215 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> ok, I will assume you're taking over then
#1216 [13:47] <Rikairchy> assume away ;D
#1217 [13:47] <Triert> there's nothing that says Windows Firewall after Network and Internet
#1218 [13:47] <Sam> http://pastebin.com/DdBwXZTY
#1219 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> Freshcliff: he's working, it will take time for him to respond
#1220 [13:47] <Rikairchy> Triert
#1221 [13:47] <Rikairchy> go to back
#1222 [13:47] <Freshcliff> Thanks - for any assistance
#1223 [13:47] <Rikairchy> then go to System and Security
#1224 [13:48] <Triert> ok
#1225 [13:48] <Triert> its off now
#1226 [13:49] <Rikairchy> try having someone conenct
#1227 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> Sam: Try using Google's Public DNS
#1228 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy will show you how
#1229 [13:49] <Rikairchy> i will?
#1230 [13:49] <Rikairchy> :D
#1231 [13:50] <Sam> ok. im a little rusty with this sort of stuff. so a push would be handy! :)
#1232 [13:50] <Rikairchy> ??> mac/dns
#1233 [13:50] <Rikairchy> oops
#1234 [13:50] <Rikairchy> ??> Sam mac/dns
#1235 [13:50] <VoxelHead> Sam: (mac/dns) To clear your DNS cache on Mac OS X Leopard/Snow Leopard (10.5+), open a Terminal window (in Applications->Utilities)
#1236 [13:50] <VoxelHead> Sam: (mac/dns) In this window, type "sudo dscacheutil -flushcache" (no quotes) and press enter. When prompted for a password, enter your user login password.
#1237 [13:50] <Rikairchy> uh
#1238 [13:50] <Triert> Rika, per chance this doesn't work. Is it fine to turn it back on or wait?
#1239 [13:50] <Rikairchy> that wasnt what i thought it was
#1240 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> that step is needed after we change it
#1241 [13:50] <Rikairchy> yes
#1242 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> Sam: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using
#1243 [13:50] <Rikairchy> however it is not fine to refer to me as rika :>
#1244 [13:50] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 go to bed
#1245 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> Rika: give people a rest
#1246 [13:50] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1247 [13:50] <Triert> it didnt work very helpful person
#1248 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> :D
#1249 [13:51] <Rikairchy> gotobed
#1250 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> oh fine
#1251 [13:51] <Rikairchy> are you chinese, tyteen4a03?
#1252 [13:51] <Sam> ah, ive done this
#1253 [13:51] <Triert> ok
#1254 [13:51] <Triert> it didnt work
#1255 [13:51] <Rikairchy> port forwarding
#1256 [13:52] <Triert> ?
#1257 [13:52] <Rikairchy> its a port forwarding issue
#1258 [13:52] <ngc0202> Rikairchy: yes
#1259 [13:53] <Triert> how could it be resolved
#1260 [13:53] <Rikairchy> redo the port forwarding
#1261 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: in case you're not aware, yes
#1262 [13:53] <Rikairchy> give your computer a static IP
#1263 [13:53] <Triert> new netgear stuff then?
#1264 [13:53] <Rikairchy> no
#1265 [13:53] <Triert> static ip?
#1266 [13:53] <Rikairchy> nothing new
#1267 [13:54] <Triert> How do I make a static IP?
#1268 [13:54] <Sam> thanks for the help guys. i need some sleep....
#1269 [13:54] <Sam> take care though. :)
#1270 [13:56] <Triert> ?
#1271 [13:56] <Rikairchy> okay
#1272 [13:56] <Freshcliff> bye Sam
#1273 [13:57] <Rikairchy> we need a ip/static >.>
#1274 [13:57] <Freshcliff> Sams was on Virgin Media - probb close to me somewhere in UK
#1275 [13:57] <Rikairchy> kikny
#1276 [13:57] <Rikairchy> kinky*
#1277 [13:58] <Triert> so whats my next step towards a static ip
#1278 [13:58] <clarjon1> for Lan or internet?
#1279 [13:58] <Rikairchy> lan
#1280 [13:58] <Rikairchy> its a port forward issue
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#1282 [13:59] <Nathan2055> Anyone here now?
#1283 [14:00] <Freshcliff> PC Faults I'm good with but lost on this software conflict - it works on another comp but woth on house comp - even after reload
#1284 [14:01] <Triert> what do i do with my static ip when i get one
#1285 [14:02] <clarjon1> Triert: what OS are you running?
#1286 [14:02] <Freshcliff> it gives a Java runtime error so i'll reinstall jave now - - thanks for the assist GreyVilpine
#1287 [14:02] <Triert> Windows
#1288 [14:02] <clarjon1> Triert: which version of widnows
#1289 [14:02] <clarjon1> *windows
#1290 [14:02] <Triert> 7
#1291 [14:03] <clarjon1> Triert: http://portforward.com/networking/static-win7.htm
#1292 [14:04] <Triert> That never helps
#1293 [14:04] <Freshcliff> hmm
#1294 [14:05] <Triert> so
#1295 [14:05] <Triert> could things go back to normal by the time 1.3 comes out?
#1296 [14:05] <Rikairchy> no
#1297 [14:05] <Rikairchy> unless you take the effort
#1298 [14:05] <Triert> What could have gone wrong in the first place?
#1299 [14:05] <Rikairchy> and follow our advice and instructions
#1300 [14:05] <clarjon1> You rebooted your computer
#1301 [14:05] <Rikairchy> prolly
#1302 [14:05] <clarjon1> and got a new IP address
#1303 [14:05] <Triert> Rebooted?
#1304 [14:05] <clarjon1> or your router powered off for a moment
#1305 [14:06] <Triert> I blue screened a while ago
#1306 [14:06] <clarjon1> and set your computer a new ip
#1307 [14:06] <clarjon1> well there you go
#1308 [14:06] <clarjon1> you disconnected fro the router
#1309 [14:06] <clarjon1> and got a new IP
#1310 [14:06] <clarjon1> if you set a static IP, this doesn't happen
#1311 [14:06] <Triert> So the blue screen changed my ip?
#1312 [14:06] <clarjon1> You are currenlty using a -dynamic- ip address
#1313 [14:06] <clarjon1> no
#1314 [14:06] <clarjon1> the router did
#1315 [14:06] <clarjon1> Here's how DHCP works:
#1316 [14:06] <Triert> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/19249/how-to-assign-a-static-ip-address-in-xp-vista-or-windows-7/
#1317 [14:07] <clarjon1> When your computer connects to the network when you boot up, it asks your router for an IP address.
#1318 [14:07] <clarjon1> Your router goes "Ok, I have this one free, so use it"
#1319 [14:07] <clarjon1> Whatever IP your router decides to give you, becomes your IP on the network.
#1320 [14:07] <clarjon1> with static IP, when you connect to the network, your computer tells the router, "Hey, My IP is gonna be blah blah"
#1321 [14:07] <Triert> I followed these steps up until IPC4 then properties; Is there a way I can find the IP again each time something like a blue screen happens?
#1322 [14:08] * clarjon1 sighs
#1322 [14:08] <Triert> Just keep going on, I'm listening
#1323 [14:08] <clarjon1> You need to assign a static IP to prevent this from happening
#1324 [14:08] <clarjon1> Otherwise, when you run Windows Update, and it forces a reboot
#1325 [14:08] <Triert> Ok
#1326 [14:08] <clarjon1> or your antivirus forces a reboot
#1327 [14:08] <clarjon1> or updating a driver forces a reboot
#1328 [14:08] <clarjon1> or a power outage
#1329 [14:08] <clarjon1> etc etc etc
#1330 [14:08] <Triert> o_o
#1331 [14:09] <clarjon1> you'll have to go through this shenanigans of configuring your router time and time again.
#1332 [14:09] <clarjon1> if you set a static IP, you configure the router once.
#1333 [14:09] <clarjon1> no matter how many reboots.
#1334 [14:09] <Triert> I'm at internet protocol version 4 properties right now
#1335 [14:09] <clarjon1> ok
#1336 [14:09] <Triert> ready for orders
#1337 [14:09] <clarjon1> well if you followed the guide I linked you, you'd know what to do
#1338 [14:09] <clarjon1> http://portforward.com/networking/static-win7.htm
#1339 [14:10] <clarjon1> because it tells you what information to grab so you can select your static IP :P
#1340 [14:10] <Triert> do i put the info from there on mine?
#1341 [14:10] <clarjon1> Steps 2, 3 and 4
#1342 [14:10] <Triert> mine was empty
#1343 [14:10] <clarjon1> Read my guide
#1344 [14:10] <clarjon1> steps 2 3 4
#1345 [14:10] <Triert> that was blocked by an advertisement
#1346 [14:10] <clarjon1> Then click the "close" button on the advert
#1347 [14:11] <Triert> should it be white with blue text?
#1348 [14:11] <Triert> my eyes hurt looking at it
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#1350 [14:12] <clarjon1> I do't remember the colors
#1351 [14:12] <clarjon1> i just clicked the close link on the advert
#1352 [14:12] <clarjon1> and then read the text
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#1354 [14:13] <korn788> hey is anyone able to get to the minecraft site
#1355 [14:14] <Rikairchy> yes
#1356 [14:14] <zen> Minecraft.net is down, in someplaces then
#1357 [14:14] <clarjon1> Triert: If you have trouble clicking a "close" link, I don't think that running a server is a good idea.
#1358 [14:14] <zen> i get 500: internal server error
#1359 [14:14] <Triert> found the close
#1360 [14:14] <Rikairchy> finally?
#1361 [14:14] <Triert> getting the info
#1362 [14:14] <clarjon1> zen: I get a "Connection was reset" error
#1363 [14:14] <Freshcliff> Gonna reboot - bye all - ty to GreyVulpine if he/she returns
#1364 [14:15] <zen> O.o i mean the website..
#1365 [14:15] <Rikairchy> bai Freshcliff
#1366 [14:15] <Rikairchy> now it wont load for me
#1367 [14:15] <Rikairchy> clarjon1 is Triert bad trollr
#1368 [14:15] <Triert> wall of text in a second, but i need this techno jabble translated into laymans terms
#1369 [14:15] <Nathan2055> !login
#1370 [14:15] <clarjon1> Triert: use pastebin.com
#1371 [14:15] <clarjon1> do not post large amounts of text directly to the channel
#1372 [14:15] <Triert> pastebin?
#1373 [14:15] <clarjon1> yes
#1374 [14:15] <Rikairchy> ??> Triert pastebin
#1375 [14:15] <VoxelHead> Triert: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#1376 [14:16] <Rikairchy> i can get to minecraft.net now
#1377 [14:16] <Triert> http://pastebin.com/6RUP0W2g
#1378 [14:16] <Triert> wow, that solves a lot
#1379 [14:16] <Triert> well, yeah laymans terms please
#1380 [14:17] <Rikairchy> where it asks for dns
#1381 [14:17] <Rikairchy> hold on
#1382 [14:17] <Rikairchy> i'll show you
#1383 [14:17] <Rikairchy> pictures are worth a thousand words
#1384 [14:17] <Triert> also
#1385 [14:18] <Triert> i didnt find an alternate dns
#1386 [14:18] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/MM0F
#1387 [14:18] <Rikairchy> make yours like mine
#1388 [14:18] <Triert> k
#1389 [14:19] <Triert> so wheres the alternate dns
#1390 [14:20] <Rikairchy> ............
#1391 [14:20] <clarjon1> Triert: Alternat DNS is a DNS server that is there in case the first DNS server is unavailable
#1392 [14:20] <Rikairchy> look at the picture. make it EXACTLY like that. its not hard. I promise.
#1393 [14:20] <Triert> done
#1394 [14:20] <Rikairchy> click okay
#1395 [14:22] <Triert> clicked ok after adding an ip and a subnet
#1396 [14:24] <clarjon1> ok
#1397 [14:24] <clarjon1> what IP did you give yourself
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#1399 [14:28] <Rikairchy> the wrong one obviously
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#1401 [14:30] <Triert> what just went wrong
#1402 [14:30] <Rikairchy> you failed
#1403 [14:30] <Triert> How
#1404 [14:31] <Rikairchy> epically
#1405 [14:31] <Triert> How
#1406 [14:31] * clarjon1 sighs
#1406 [14:31] <clarjon1> welcome back
#1407 [14:31] <clarjon1> Nothing went wrong
#1408 [14:31] <Rikairchy> clarjon1 hush
#1409 [14:31] <Rikairchy> :D
#1410 [14:31] <clarjon1> When you set the static IP, it terminated existing connections, because it couldn't go to the old IP anymore.
#1411 [14:32] <clarjon1> Triert: Now set up your router to port forward to the static IP you set.
#1412 [14:32] <Triert> What static IP?
#1413 [14:32] <clarjon1> You set a Static IP did you not?
#1414 [14:32] <Triert> my internet connect died after I did what rika told me to do
#1415 [14:32] <Triert> connection
#1416 [14:32] <Rikairchy> please dont call me Rika
#1417 [14:32] <Rikairchy> as I've asked
#1418 [14:33] <Triert> So I put in the IP, Subnet, and Default gateway, then the 8888 and 8844 things too
#1419 [14:33] <Triert> whats next
#1420 [14:33] <Rikairchy> go to your router
#1421 [14:33] <Rikairchy> and redo the port forwarding
#1422 [14:33] <Rikairchy> using your new address
#1423 [14:34] <Triert> so now the IP address I put there will stay regardless of the blackouts/blue screens/all the things you asid?
#1424 [14:34] <Triert> said"
#1425 [14:34] <clarjon1> Triert: that's why it's called a "Static IP"
#1426 [14:34] <clarjon1> Triert: instead of "Dynamic IP"
#1427 [14:36] <Triert> Now testing
#1428 [14:37] <Triert> ...http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1khqkhvtY1qkxx2s.gif
#1429 [14:38] <zen> fail link.
#1430 [14:38] <Triert> No fail
#1431 [14:38] <Triert> It worked
#1432 [14:38] <Triert> Thank you red names
#1433 [14:38] <clarjon1> np
#1434 [14:38] <Triert> I'll return another day
#1435 [14:39] <Triert> When I want to run a bukkit server
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#1437 [14:40] <Rikairchy> please dont
#1438 [14:40] <Rikairchy> go to #bukkithelp
#1439 [14:40] <Rikairchy> thats what they are for
#1440 [14:40] <zen> I couldn't click it, so fail link,
#1441 [14:40] <Rikairchy> http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1khqkhvtY1qkxx2s.gif
#1442 [14:44] <Triert> I will return another day
#1443 [14:45] <Triert> Because my luck is terrible
#1444 [14:45] <Triert> GOODBYE
#1445 [14:49] <Boreeas> Or #bukkit, chances are probably better there
#1446 [14:49] <Boreeas> Oh, left already
#1447 [14:51] <zen> blegh explaining networking is always the worst..
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#1449 [14:59] <Rikairchy> especially to people that have no understanding of how to click a close button
#1450 [15:02] <Moose> lolwat. http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/415476406
#1451 [15:02] <Moose> 15 minutes later. minecraft.net is down.
#1452 [15:02] <Moose> lawl.
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#1455 [15:10] <Guest> Hello. I'm trying to mod how tools and weapons are repaired. I use mpc62 and have all files decompiled and unobfuscated, I just can't find the piece of code that does item repair.
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#1457 [15:11] <Guest> The Wiki mention this: "min( floor( Item A uses + Item B uses + (Max uses / 10) ), Max uses)" But it doesn't say in which file
#1458 [15:11] <basketball22> hi whenever i try to join a server it says Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection Reset
#1459 [15:12] <basketball22> hello?
#1460 [15:14] <clarjon1> basketball22: only a certain server does this?
#1461 [15:14] <basketball22> everyone preety much
#1462 [15:14] <basketball22> everyone preety much
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#1464 [15:30] <einand> is there any good free online hosting that support php
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#1466 [15:34] <darkened08> helo all
#1467 [15:35] <tyteen4a03> einand: If you're looking for only webhosting, then there are some good ones such as webhostingpad, surpass, nearlyfreespeech.net, there are many choices
#1468 [15:35] <einand> tyteen4a03: and its for free, and no hassle signing up with them
#1469 [15:35] <darkened08> I just started my server, we get some people here and there, but nothing steady
#1470 [15:36] <darkened08> wheres a good place to advertise
#1471 [15:36] <tyteen4a03> einand: well, free services will certainly have worse services than paid ones, but if you have to have one, try http://www.000webhost.com/
#1472 [15:36] <tyteen4a03> darkened08: #smp, or the advertising section in MC Forums
#1473 [15:37] <darkened08> Ive done that. we get 15-20 people and thats good, but I'm trying to get some recognition and more return visitors
#1474 [15:37] <darkened08> we've done mc forums, planetmc, even some sub reddits
#1475 [15:38] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03
#1476 [15:38] <Rikairchy> go to bed.
#1477 [15:38] <darkened08> And another question, were trying to get people to donate and help with server costs and upgrades, whats a good incentive? its a zombie survival in the likeness of minez
#1478 [15:39] <Rikairchy> darkened08: a VIP system?
#1479 [15:39] <darkened08> We have a vip system. we give them diamond which is the only way they can get that, all the guns with ammo available
#1480 [15:40] <darkened08> Idk if I'm doing something wrong or just not getting the right people
#1481 [15:41] <Rikairchy> you just need to advertise
#1482 [15:41] <Rikairchy> and not here >.>
#1483 [15:41] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: I am supposed to be up right now, I just went to get a power nap (which isn't really powerful, by the way)
#1484 [15:41] <Rikairchy> you slept like
#1485 [15:41] <Rikairchy> 2 hours
#1486 [15:42] <Rikairchy> why are you supposed to be up right now
#1487 [15:42] <darkened08> I figure it takes time, thanks for the advice guys
#1488 [15:44] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: to answer a call from my friend
#1489 [15:46] <Rikairchy> did you answer?
#1490 [15:47] <einand> i know for sure i diden't, as i do not share my friends, i keep them in the freezer, until i get hungry
#1491 [15:48] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: yes, and I am waiting for her next
#1492 [15:48] <Rikairchy> is she cute?
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#1494 [15:49] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: she is 41
#1495 [15:50] <einand> shall i, or shall I not go to the store
#1496 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> einand: get some sauce for your friends
#1497 [15:50] <Rikairchy> uh
#1498 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: I asked her to order gifts to my friend, which is currently on a trip to canada and her aunt and uncle there forgot about her birthday
#1499 [15:50] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 arent you like 16
#1500 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> almost
#1501 [15:50] <einand> tyteen4a03: ooh, w'll they taste better then
#1502 [15:51] <Rikairchy> einand get jack daniels bbq sauce xD
#1503 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> like, 17 days later but yeah
#1504 [15:51] <Rikairchy> that sucks
#1505 [15:51] <Rikairchy> you should find me cute chinese chicks
#1506 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> she is cute
#1507 [15:54] <Morrolan> !check minecraft.net
#1508 [15:54] <Morrolan> Err
#1509 [15:54] <Morrolan> !isdown minecraft.net
#1510 [15:54] <GreyBot> Morrolan: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1511 [15:54] <Morrolan> !login
#1512 [15:54] <Morrolan> Okay. :)
#1513 [15:56] <tyteen4a03> Toast: yay, major netsplit
#1514 [15:56] <Rikairchy> ikr
#1515 [15:56] <Rikairchy> it wasnt major
#1516 [15:56] <Rikairchy> xfcab and aperture
#1517 [15:56] <tyteen4a03> [03:55] <tyteen4a03> clarjon1: yay, major netsplit
#1518 [15:56] <tyteen4a03> [03:55] <Q-Dasher> Been like that for 20 minutes
#1519 [15:57] <Rikairchy> major
#1520 [15:57] <Rikairchy> because it was his server
#1521 [15:57] <Morrolan> If that is a current timestamp you should go to bed, tyteen4a03. :P
#1522 [15:57] <Rikairchy> LINK: Netsplit complete, lost 31 users on 2 servers.
#1523 [15:57] <Rikairchy> so we just lost all the DC users
#1524 [15:58] <Rikairchy> i dont have full perms yet
#1525 [15:58] <Rikairchy> so i can't connect
#1526 [16:00] <Rikairchy> oh fu
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#1528 [16:05] <Sam> hey um i tried to purchase minecraft on my computer and entered my credit card information but it wouldn't let me buy it do you have any knowledge that could help me?
#1529 [16:05] <Rikairchy> your credit card company may block foreign transactions
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#1531 [16:07] <Sam> i tried it again and then it said i purchased it but when i tried to play it said "not a premium account"
#1532 [16:07] <Rikairchy> whats your username?
#1533 [16:07] <Sam> Zomieslayer21
#1534 [16:07] * {wld^fervor}SD [{wld^fervor}SD@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1535 [16:07] <Rikairchy> !paid Zomieslayer21
#1536 [16:07] <Rikairchy> !haspaid Zomieslayer21
#1537 [16:08] <Sam> is minecraft having issues or something cause i looked at the support and it said the site was down
#1538 [16:08] <Rikairchy> give it about 24 hours
#1539 [16:08] <Sam> ok
#1540 [16:08] <Sam> i'll try again tomorrow
#1541 [16:08] <Sam> thanks
#1542 [16:08] <{wld^fervor}SD> is this the room for help with minecraft?
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#1544 [16:09] <Worqy> Hi
#1545 [16:09] * {wld^fervor}SD sighs and tries another room
#1545 [16:09] * {wld^fervor}SD sighs and tries another room
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#1546 [16:10] <Sam> have you heard of the AdventureCraft mod?
#1547 [16:10] <Rikairchy> yes
#1548 [16:10] <Sam> well i went to the site to try to download it and when i clicked "download" it took me to the wrong site to download
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#1550 [16:10] <jerichobubie> hello
#1551 [16:11] <Worqy> Anyone here know anything about RCON?
#1552 [16:11] <jerichobubie> no
#1553 [16:12] <Rikairchy> yeah
#1554 [16:12] <Rikairchy> but its not used on minecraft afaik
#1555 [16:12] <Rikairchy> i've seen it on valve games
#1556 [16:12] <Sam> are you talking to jerihchobuie? or me
#1557 [16:12] <Worqy> RCON is used in minecraft..
#1558 [16:13] <jerichobubie> .....
#1559 [16:13] <Morrolan> Yea, but if you've got SSH access there's no reason to use it. :)
#1560 [16:13] <Rikairchy> i haven't used it in Minecraft
#1561 [16:13] <Rikairchy> ssh ftw
#1562 [16:13] <Rikairchy> hi g
#1563 [16:13] <jerichobubie> hi g
#1564 [16:13] <Rikairchy> g clarjon1 broke it
#1565 [16:13] <Sam> how do you get AdventureCraft?
#1566 [16:13] <Worqy> SSH... Do I need to setup anything to use it or? Is it just like TCP?
#1567 [16:13] <Rikairchy> uh
#1568 [16:14] <Rikairchy> tcp is so different
#1569 [16:14] <Rikairchy> well
#1570 [16:14] <Rikairchy> sort of
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#1572 [16:14] <Rikairchy> are you running it on a linux machine?
#1573 [16:14] <Worqy> Windows
#1574 [16:14] <Rikairchy> oh
#1575 [16:14] <Rikairchy> uhm
#1576 [16:14] <Rikairchy> ssh is Secure SHell
#1577 [16:15] <Morrolan> Then you're better off with using Minecraft's RCON protocol I believe.
#1578 [16:15] <Rikairchy> like a remote command line
#1579 [16:15] <Biomechd> wow, look at the list. don't suppose anyone here has seen me before?
#1580 [16:15] <Rikairchy> hi
#1581 [16:15] <jerichobubie> my problem is my mincraft classic works but when i play the payed version of minecraft i allways get black screen before i get into the main menu (YES I'M ALL REALDY PREMIUM)
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#1583 [16:15] <jerichobubie> hi doc
#1584 [16:15] <Doc-> hey
#1585 [16:15] <Worqy> Im having a hard time setting up RCON
#1586 [16:15] <Worqy> Like how to connect and run a command etc
#1587 [16:16] <Rikairchy> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/842376-minecraft-server-rconquery-utility/
#1588 [16:16] <Biomechd> i'm trying to load up the 1.3 pre-release, but i just keep getting a black screen and then an error
#1589 [16:16] <Rikairchy> take a look at that
#1590 [16:16] <Doc-> http://i.imgur.com/xfLRU.png - Getting that error.
#1591 [16:16] <Rikairchy> Biomechd have you tried a force update?
#1592 [16:16] <Biomechd> not yet
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#1594 [16:16] <Rikairchy> wow. people still use XP
#1595 [16:16] <jerichobubie> my fullversion of minecraft always gets black screen no matter what version i put it
#1596 [16:17] <Biomechd> my school laptop had xp professional on it. hopefully the new one they send me will be windows 7
#1597 [16:17] <Worqy> Rikairchy: source anywhere?
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#1599 [16:17] <Morrolan> Worqy - He didn't write it himself, that's what a Google search brings up.
#1600 [16:17] <Rikairchy> Worqy
#1601 [16:17] <Rikairchy> as in the source dode?
#1602 [16:17] <Rikairchy> code*
#1603 [16:17] <Worqy> Yeah
#1604 [16:17] <Rikairchy> uh
#1605 [16:18] <Rikairchy> i just googled
#1606 [16:18] <Morrolan> If you really need the source, grab one of those: http://wiki.vg/Rcon#Example_implementations
#1607 [16:18] <Biomechd> i much prefer esper's color scheme to freenode's
#1608 [16:18] <Worqy> Since looking at a GUI of a Rcon program won't teach my that much.
#1609 [16:18] <Biomechd> much easier on the eyes
#1610 [16:18] <Rikairchy> oh
#1611 [16:18] <Rikairchy> you want to learn about RCON
#1612 [16:18] <Rikairchy> i thought you meant connect to RCON
#1613 [16:18] <Morrolan> Ah, I assumed you wanted an utility as well.
#1614 [16:18] <jerichobubie> GRRRRRR MY MINECRAFT KEEPS GETING BLACK SCREEN!
#1615 [16:18] <Morrolan> In this case, take a look at the wiki article I linked you to.
#1616 [16:18] <Morrolan> jerichobubie - Grr, that is annoying indeed.
#1617 [16:18] <Worqy> How to code a program that connects to RCON ;)
#1618 [16:19] <Rikairchy> jerichobubie
#1619 [16:19] <Biomechd> Rikairchy: just did a force update. black screen then crash error
#1620 [16:19] <Rikairchy> wait your turn yo
#1621 [16:19] <jerichobubie> yhea
#1622 [16:19] <zen> jerichobubie, could be a few things, driver problems, graphics simply cannot take it,
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#1624 [16:19] <Rikairchy> Biomechd do you know how to do an error report?
#1625 [16:19] <Rikairchy> SgtTraveler are you in teh army?
#1626 [16:20] <Worqy> Morrolan: Yes, I have done all the server confid, but how do I connect to it? Using C# right now
#1627 [16:20] <Worqy> config*
#1628 [16:20] <Biomechd> Rikairchy: copy it to pastebin/pasteall?
#1629 [16:20] <Rikairchy> Worqy
#1630 [16:20] <Rikairchy> use the program i linked to connect to it
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#1632 [16:20] <Rikairchy> Biomechd: correct
#1633 [16:20] <jerichobubie> ive tried force update but the loading screen keeps freezing >:(
#1634 [16:20] <Morrolan> Worqy - Read the wiki article if you want an explanation of the protocol.
#1635 [16:20] <Rikairchy> prolly antivirus
#1636 [16:20] <zen> ??> jerichobubie win/dxdiag
#1637 [16:20] <VoxelHead> jerichobubie: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1638 [16:21] <VoxelHead> jerichobubie: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1639 [16:21] <Morrolan> There are also example implementations there.
#1640 [16:21] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 are you still alive
#1641 [16:21] <Morrolan> Now if you search Github for "Minecraft rcon" you'll find another batch of programs which you can take a look at.
#1642 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: sure
#1643 [16:21] <Rikairchy> [16:20:45] <&BOFH> they're under a ddos attack
#1644 [16:21] <Rikairchy> ffs
#1645 [16:21] <jerichobubie> wait what was i supposed to do??????/
#1646 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: who?
#1647 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> Worqy: try #mcdevs on freenode for help
#1648 [16:21] <Rikairchy> clarjon is
#1649 [16:21] <Worqy> Rikairchy: I am trying to make a program that connects to a server using Rcon
#1650 [16:22] <Rikairchy> jerichobubie: dont use so many question marks
#1651 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: who would bother?
#1652 [16:22] <Rikairchy> its rude.
#1653 [16:22] <Worqy> Ok
#1654 [16:22] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03: idk
#1655 [16:22] <jerichobubie> ok
#1656 [16:22] <Rikairchy> someone did a bandwidth DDoS on me a few days ago
#1657 [16:23] <Doc-> <Doc-> http://i.imgur.com/xfLRU.png - Getting that error.
#1658 [16:23] <Doc-> Is there a known fix to that?
#1659 [16:23] <Worqy> Is Rcon a built in thing in C# like TCP? Or do I need some other library for it?
#1660 [16:23] <Biomechd> Rikairchy: http://pastebin.com/CgJYQ1wR
#1661 [16:24] <Doc-> It worked 15 minutes ago with some MinecraftSP client, now that I tried it with an account it throws me that error.
#1662 [16:24] <Rikairchy> try a force update
#1663 [16:24] <Morrolan> Worqy - RCON is a protocol, either grab an existing library, or implement it yourself.
#1664 [16:24] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: try updating your drivers
#1665 [16:24] <Morrolan> Given that it's not something used in everyday's coding, it's doubtful that the .NET framework has a built-in library.
#1666 [16:24] <Doc-> They are up to date.
#1667 [16:24] <Worqy> Morrolan: Know and good tutorials for implementing it yourself?
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#1669 [16:24] <Morrolan> How did you check, Doc-?
#1670 [16:25] <Morrolan> Worqy - No, read the docs, check other people's documentation, ask development channels if you're stuck.
#1671 [16:25] <Doc-> How did I check what? I installed them myself. :v
#1672 [16:25] <Worqy> ok
#1673 [16:25] <Morrolan> Doc- - As in, did you grab them from the manufacturer's site, or through device manager. ;)
#1674 [16:26] <jerichobubie> ------------------
#1675 [16:26] <Doc-> I grabbed the device manager from the manufacturer's site. :D
#1676 [16:27] <jerichobubie> wait what was i supposed to do?
#1677 [16:29] <Rikairchy> Doc-
#1678 [16:29] <Rikairchy> rather than use microsoft's outdated driver systeem
#1679 [16:29] <Rikairchy> system*
#1680 [16:29] <Rikairchy> manually install them via the manufacteror's site
#1681 [16:29] <Rikairchy> manufacturer's
#1682 [16:29] <Rikairchy> however its spelled
#1683 [16:29] <Doc-> They are up to date.
#1684 [16:29] <Rikairchy> ...
#1685 [16:29] <jerichobubie> ....
#1686 [16:29] <Rikairchy> why come ask for help
#1687 [16:29] <Rikairchy> if you refuse it
#1688 [16:30] <Doc-> I am not refusing, I'm just telling you that my graphic drivers are up to date. :o
#1689 [16:30] <Rikairchy> think of it this way
#1690 [16:30] <tyteen4a03> [04:26] <Doc-> I grabbed the device manager from the manufacturer's site. :D
#1691 [16:30] <tyteen4a03> I don't see refusion here
#1692 [16:30] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: reinstalling won't hurt
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#1694 [16:30] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/MOfq
#1695 [16:31] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 ^
#1696 [16:31] <Morrolan> <Doc-> I grabbed the device manager from the manufacturer's site. " <- kinda confused now, did you install them from the manufacturere's site, or through Windows' device manager?
#1697 [16:31] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: I saw
#1698 [16:31] <Doc-> haha
#1699 [16:31] <helpmebob> CAN YOU GUYS HELP ME
#1700 [16:31] <Morrolan> helpmebob - Maybe?
#1701 [16:31] <helpmebob> I NEED HELP
#1702 [16:31] <Rikairchy> don't type in caps
#1703 [16:31] <tyteen4a03> helpmebob: firstly, no caps
#1704 [16:31] <Rikairchy> please.
#1705 [16:31] <helpmebob> k
#1706 [16:31] <Rikairchy> its rude
#1707 [16:31] <tyteen4a03> then explain what you need help with
#1708 [16:31] <helpmebob> my minecraft isnt werking
#1709 [16:31] <Doc-> To clear the air, I downloaded the drivers from the manufacturer's site, to double check I used their program to verify everything, so I am sure the drivers are up to date.
#1710 [16:32] <Rikairchy> helpmebob: that doesnt help us
#1711 [16:32] <helpmebob> so i just explain?
#1712 [16:32] <Rikairchy> yes
#1713 [16:32] <Doc-> My graphics card however is an integrated one, I am just trying to figure out why I am able to run the "cracked" client and why I can't run minecraft legitimately with my account.
#1714 [16:32] <Rikairchy> hm
#1715 [16:32] <tyteen4a03> hi
#1716 [16:33] <tyteen4a03> ^test of command, ignore please
#1717 [16:33] <Rikairchy> have you tried a force update on the official?
#1718 [16:33] <Doc-> I've updated minecraft twi-
#1719 [16:33] <Doc-> Yes.
#1720 [16:33] <tyteen4a03> hang on
#1721 [16:33] <Rikairchy> hm
#1722 [16:33] <Doc-> No files are missing I believe.
#1723 [16:33] <tyteen4a03> ??< indedx
#1724 [16:33] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1725 [16:33] <Rikairchy> is the cracked version the same as official?
#1726 [16:33] <Doc-> Same version yes.
#1727 [16:33] <Rikairchy> are either running any mods?
#1728 [16:33] <Doc-> Fresh installs.
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#1730 [16:34] <Rikairchy> thats odd.
#1731 [16:34] <Rikairchy> same launcher?
#1732 [16:34] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: what is the factoid that points to the fix for piracy installs?
#1733 [16:34] <tyteen4a03> ??< win/cleartype
#1734 [16:34] <Rikairchy> ??> index
#1735 [16:34] <Rikairchy> err
#1736 [16:34] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1737 [16:34] <Rikairchy> i dislike not remembering this
#1738 [16:34] <Rikairchy> ??> index
#1739 [16:34] <helpmebob> ok so recently i down loaded some mods to my minecrft and they worked then i decided to take them off. so i deleted my .minecraft and went to minecraft.net to install the .minecraft again. but when i go to "play online" theres a white screen that says "APPLICATION ERROR" "CLASSNOTFOUNDEXCEPTION" "net.minecraft.launcher"
#1740 [16:35] <zen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/ bookmark this..
#1741 [16:35] <helpmebob> please help
#1742 [16:35] <zen> ^ list of the factois with there descriptions
#1743 [16:35] <Doc-> Not the same launcher, the cracked client just gave you an option to pick your username and then you could enter the game. The legit minecraft has to verify that you got a premium account, and then it launches the game.
#1744 [16:35] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - win/hosts
#1745 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: that's it? then it's not the thing I am looking for then
#1746 [16:35] <Morrolan> Then just remove any lines containing minecraft.net session.minecraft.net etc from the hosts file.
#1747 [16:36] * clarjon1 baps Rikairchy
#1747 [16:36] <tyteen4a03> zen: thank you
#1748 [16:36] <helpmebob> hello?
#1749 [16:36] <Morrolan> Pirated installers modify the hosts file to redirect to a locally hosted auth server. I don't think we've got any specific factoid for pirated installers though.
#1750 [16:36] <Rikairchy> clarjon1 its true
#1751 [16:36] <Rikairchy> and you know it
#1752 [16:36] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: it's an opengl error, so probably not
#1753 [16:36] <Morrolan> helpmebob - Try the downloaded version, grab it from www.minecraft.net/download
#1754 [16:37] <zen> ??> forceupdate helpmebob
#1755 [16:37] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Heh, indeed.
#1756 [16:37] <zen> blegh
#1757 [16:37] <helpmebob> i already tried it
#1758 [16:37] <helpmebob> it wont let me log in
#1759 [16:37] <Morrolan> What does it say when you try to log in?
#1760 [16:37] <tyteen4a03> zen: reverse order
#1761 [16:37] <helpmebob> i alreaonline or offline?
#1762 [16:37] <zen> derp
#1763 [16:37] <helpmebob> online or offline*
#1764 [16:37] <zen> I've been away for two weeks and i'm tired
#1765 [16:37] <Doc-> If my computer couldn't entirely support Minecraft it wouldn't run the MinecraftSP client, so that is the only beacon of hope I am seeing. Although I have no idea what the matter is or how to fix it.
#1766 [16:38] <Doc-> http://i.imgur.com/xfLRU.png
#1767 [16:38] <Doc-> That's the error again. ;o
#1768 [16:38] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: Do you have an integrated GPU and a graphics card? just wondering
#1769 [16:38] <Doc-> Integrated, yep.
#1770 [16:38] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: Just integrated?
#1771 [16:38] <tyteen4a03> also try Java 6
#1772 [16:38] <Doc-> Geforce 6150se
#1773 [16:38] <zen> helpmebob, can you log into the launcher?
#1774 [16:39] <helpmebob> no :(
#1775 [16:39] <Doc-> reinstalling java
#1776 [16:39] <helpmebob> wait yes
#1777 [16:39] <helpmebob> but it says cantconnect to minecraft.net
#1778 [16:39] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: it says here "Failed to get system properties", so LWJGL probably couldn't figure out the pixel format it should use
#1779 [16:39] <Doc-> Is there any possible fix to it?
#1780 [16:40] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: current idea is to use java 6 instead, then we'll follow
#1781 [16:42] <helpmebob> hello
#1782 [16:42] <tyteen4a03> helpmebob: Hi
#1783 [16:43] <helpmebob> can you help
#1784 [16:43] <Doc-> Different error, sec
#1785 [16:43] <Biomechd> Rikairchy: not sure if you saw this before. this is after a force update. http://pastebin.com/2KtsacpY
#1786 [16:44] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: how old is this computer?
#1787 [16:44] <Doc-> Technically it's somewhat new, but the hardware isn't the best. Not to mention the horrible graphics card haha.
#1788 [16:45] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: Can you get a dxdiag report?
#1789 [16:45] <Doc-> sure, sec.
#1790 [16:47] <Doc-> tyteen4a03: http://pastebin.com/xLhbE1Rp
#1791 [16:48] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: Your graphics card is literally 7 years ago
#1792 [16:48] <Doc-> haha
#1793 [16:48] <Doc-> I should upgrade that. :P
#1794 [16:48] <Doc-> The thing is, as I said, if it didn't entirely support Minecraft it wouldn't have been able to run that cracked client thing.
#1795 [16:49] <Doc-> Which was apparently 1.2.5
#1796 [16:49] <tyteen4a03> yeah, that's where I am confused
#1797 [16:49] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1798 [16:49] <tyteen4a03> I think there's a DirectX alternative that you might want to try, it might be included in the cracked client but I don't really know
#1799 [16:50] <xales> tyteen4a03: wat
#1800 [16:50] <Morrolan> It's a fairly common issue with cracked clients, actually.
#1801 [16:50] <Morrolan> Not sure whether they rely on an older version of OpenGL or so.
#1802 [16:50] <tyteen4a03> xales: I heard there's a directx alternative factoid lying around
#1803 [16:50] <Morrolan> Fact is, every now and then we have someone whose old hardware works with cracked clients, but not with the "real" one.
#1804 [16:50] <xales> tyteen4a03: Minecraft doesn't use DX... :p
#1805 [16:51] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - There is a _dxdiag_ alternative, for systems which don't have that one installed. ;)
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#1807 [16:51] <Morrolan> ?? win/nodxdiag
#1808 [16:51] <tyteen4a03> I know, I wrote that one
#1809 [16:51] <VoxelHead> win/nodxdiag: In rare cases where dxdiag won't work, you can try using msinfo32 instead. Press the Win+R keys, and type "msinfo32.exe" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. Once it has finished loading, click "File -> Export" button, name it to info.txt (or any other file name) and save it to your desktop.
#1810 [16:51] <Chrisdude112> hello?
#1811 [16:51] <VoxelHead> win/nodxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link you are sent to, and paste it in the IRC channel.
#1812 [16:51] <xales> Morrolan: There's a way to use a software OpenGL renderer, I believe.
#1813 [16:51] <xales> Or something insane like that.
#1814 [16:51] <Morrolan> xales - Hmm, yea, there's an article on the forum about that.
#1815 [16:51] <tyteen4a03> I remember a way to launch minecraft with directx that was on the index
#1816 [16:51] <Morrolan> Performance might take a servere hit though.
#1817 [16:52] <xales> Morrolan: Yeah, it would, pretty insane hit.
#1818 [16:52] <xales> tyteen4a03: Minecraft doesn't use DirectX, at all, in any way, ever.
#1819 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> Chrisdude112: yes?
#1820 [16:52] <Chrisdude112> On my mac, when I open it, it says minecraft is damaged and should be moved to the trash (this is new downloaded minecraft on new mac software) what can i do
#1821 [16:52] <Morrolan> xales - Would be that one I believe: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-17.html
#1822 [16:52] <Morrolan> Doc -
#1823 [16:52] <Morrolan> Could try the instructions in the post I linked above, but, as I said, performance would suffer.
#1824 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> xales: I know it doesn't, but I remember a factoid that forces minecraft to use it, it marked itself as experimental though
#1825 [16:52] <xales> ??> Chrisdude112 mac/gatekeeper
#1826 [16:53] <VoxelHead> Chrisdude112: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1827 [16:53] <Chrisdude112> ok thank you!
#1828 [16:53] <tyteen4a03> I swear there was a factoid like that
#1829 [16:53] <xales> tyteen4a03: Again, it's not possible to make a program that uses OpenGL just magically use DirectX.
#1830 [16:53] <Worqy> Morrolan: Mind taking a look at my code? Made some progress
#1831 [16:53] <xales> It just doesn't make any *sense*.
#1832 [16:53] <tyteen4a03> xales: it doesn't
#1833 [16:53] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1834 [16:53] <Biomechd> does anyone know what to do for an error like this? http://pastebin.com/2KtsacpY
#1835 [16:54] <xales> Biomechd: Update graphics card drivers.
#1836 [16:54] <Morrolan> Worqy - I don't speak C#, sorry.
#1837 [16:54] <Worqy> Its in java
#1838 [16:54] <tyteen4a03> Worqy: as I said, #mcdevs at freenode might be your best bet
#1839 [16:54] <Morrolan> Same for Java.
#1840 [16:54] <Worqy> ok
#1841 [16:55] <Morrolan> I've got some way-back experience with VB.NET, and some beginner's knowledge of Python.
#1842 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: do you speak anything other than English?
#1843 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> and those
#1844 [16:55] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - German, and a little French. :D
#1845 [16:55] <Boreeas> No Italian?
#1846 [16:55] <Morrolan> (A tiny little French)
#1847 [16:55] <Morrolan> Nope.
#1848 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> aw
#1849 [16:55] <Boreeas> Or that really weird old language that no one talks anymore?
#1850 [16:55] <Morrolan> Latin?
#1851 [16:56] <Morrolan> Yea, that one I had on school for two years.
#1852 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> visual basic?
#1853 [16:56] <Morrolan> I still remember some words, and some basic grammar.
#1854 [16:56] <helpmebob> no can can help me!!
#1855 [16:56] <xales> tyteen4a03: BASIC.EXE
#1856 [16:56] <Morrolan> Oh, right, and some, err, QBasic?
#1857 [16:56] <xales> helpmebob: You have to tell people what you need help with if you want help. ._.
#1858 [16:56] <Morrolan> No, not QBasic, uhm.
#1859 [16:56] <xales> Morrolan: SquirrelBasic? :p
#1860 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> helpmebob: Given from the fact that you can still download Minecraft.exe, you can access minecraft.net, right?
#1861 [16:57] <Boreeas> No, not latin, I meant another one. Don't recall it's name though :P
#1862 [16:57] <Morrolan> Some odd basic dialect for Mac OSX, which we had a, uh, basic class in school.
#1863 [16:57] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Pft. :P
#1864 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> xales: broken minecraft install, need force update, in the middle of downloading the client (he used web client before)
#1865 [16:57] <Doc-> http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/606524-minecraft/answers?qid=259416 - I'll check if this works.
#1866 [16:57] <xales> tyteen4a03: lol
#1867 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> Doc-: that one I haven't seen
#1868 [16:57] <Boreeas> I recently ported a QBasic program to C#.NET. Fun.
#1869 [16:58] <xales> Morrolan: That link is what I was talking about, forcing software rendering.
#1870 [16:58] <xales> ??+ gpu/none|http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/606524-minecraft/answers?qid=259416
#1871 [16:58] <xales> err
#1872 [16:58] <tyteen4a03> xales: can you add the yougetwhatyoupaidfor factoid
#1873 [16:58] <xales> ??- gpu/none
#1874 [16:58] <xales> ??+ todo/gpu/none|http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/606524-minecraft/answers?qid=259416
#1875 [16:59] <Doc-> Didn't work. :P
#1876 [16:59] <xales> tyteen4a03: write the content :p
#1877 [16:59] <Morrolan> xales - Ah. What was the one I linked way up there about then?
#1878 [16:59] <Morrolan> "Using Software-only CPU Rendering through LWJGL (bad GPU/drivers)" sure sounds similar.
#1879 [16:59] <Doc-> I'll just have to stick to the other client then, thanks for your time.
#1880 [16:59] <xales> Morrolan: Probably the same thing, actually, but doing it the right way
#1881 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> xales: I queried those to DopeGhoti, I will get you it
#1882 [16:59] <xales> Doc-: Try Morrolan's solution
#1883 [16:59] <xales> ??+ todo/gpu/software|http://minecraftirc.net/thread-17.html
#1884 [17:00] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Just mind you, if they're longer than one IRC message, Dope will have to add it.
#1885 [17:00] <Morrolan> xales - Heh.
#1886 [17:00] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: oh right, that's why I called Dope
#1887 [17:00] <tyteen4a03> meh
#1888 [17:00] <Morrolan> Just poke him again, if you messaged him a few days ago and didn't get any response. :)
#1889 [17:00] * xales is going for a walk, will be back later
#1889 [17:01] <Morrolan> Enjoy the walk in the moonshine. ;)
#1890 [17:01] <Morrolan> Actually, it probably isn't night yet where you live.
#1891 [17:01] <helpmebob> yes i can access minecraft.net
#1892 [17:02] <tyteen4a03> try this: In some cases, the graphics card doesn't support OpenGL because it's too old. In that case, you can try using a software renderer. Note that performance will take a great hit when you use this. Because it is often assumed that less recent hardwares don't have better performance, it is not recommended to try this solution unless you have to.
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#1896 [17:13] <Chrisdude112> yay fixed
#1897 [17:13] <Chrisdude112> t<#
#1898 [17:13] <Chrisdude112> *<3
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#1900 [17:22] <thatmexicankid> hello
#1901 [17:23] <thatmexicankid> i need help
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#1903 [17:26] <Ethan> is minecraft.net not working for anyone else?
#1904 [17:27] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#1905 [17:27] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#1906 [17:27] <Ethan> okay thanks
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#1908 [17:30] <NinjaKirby> I was going to come in here and ask for assistance, but I can only assume the Mojang servers (or my Bandwidth) is suffering somehow. Launching Minecraft.exe sure grinds tonight.
#1909 [17:31] <Biomechd> minecraft.net is currently down
#1910 [17:31] <Morrolan> Login servers used to be fine, though.
#1911 [17:31] <Morrolan> !login
#1912 [17:32] <Morrolan> And they still are, seemingly.
#1913 [17:32] <einand> !logout
#1914 [17:32] <Biomechd> i can, too. i just can't get into the game itself because it doesn't want to work today, unless i update some drivers or something
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#1916 [17:33] <NinjaKirby> Ah, Login was fine, but it derped on loading the website along with freezing the client temporarily, but it's fine past that :)
#1917 [17:33] <mike_> need help
#1918 [17:33] <mike_> is minecraft.net up
#1919 [17:33] <Morrolan> isup(minecraft.net) == ishere(mike_)
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#1927 [17:46] <Irtalo> hello
#1928 [17:47] <Moose> [14:33] <Morrolan> isup(minecraft.net) == ishere(mike_)
#1929 [17:47] <Moose> there was a post on /b/ saying they were taking down minecraft.net because of the hunger system
#1930 [17:47] <Morrolan> What.
#1931 [17:47] <Moose> yup
#1932 [17:47] <Morrolan> Hunger system?
#1933 [17:47] <Moose> yup
#1934 [17:47] <Morrolan> That was introduced... a few months ago?
#1935 [17:47] <Moose> They liked it the old way
#1936 [17:47] <Moose> yup
#1937 [17:48] <Morrolan> And they care about this _now_?
#1938 [17:48] * Irtalo [Irtalo@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1939 [17:48] <Moose> more than a few months ago
#1940 [17:48] <Moose> almost a year now
#1941 [17:48] <Moose> anyways
#1942 [17:48] <Moose> they demand that notch fixes it or they'll keep ddosing.
#1943 [17:48] <Morrolan> *sigh*
#1944 [17:48] <Morrolan> Odd people.
#1945 [17:49] <Moose> Or maybe it's notch trolling us, and he's just taking the servers offline for maintenance.
#1946 [17:49] <Morrolan> Irtalo - Just ask in here, no need to pm me. :)
#1947 [17:50] <Morrolan> Moose - I'd have understood the rage if it was just added recently, but even talking about doing something now, a year after it got added, is just silly.
#1948 [17:50] <Morrolan> Also, seems Irtalo doesn't want to talk about it publicly.
#1949 [17:50] <Moose> meh
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#1952 [17:54] <mollstam> hurrf
#1953 [17:54] <Morrolan> Heh, now look who's still alive.
#1954 [17:55] <mollstam> sorry for the downtime :]
#1955 [17:55] <ShaRose> mollstam first time speaking on irc for months, how does it feel
#1956 [17:55] <Morrolan> Heck, who cares about the website as long as auth works. ;)
#1957 [17:55] <mollstam> schh :)
#1958 [17:56] * DiskDaemon wonders if he should still say that nobody here works for Mojang...
#1958 [17:56] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, what the hell. Someone can pipe up if they want to correct me on that at the time :)
#1959 [17:57] <ShaRose> considering how often mollstam talks I'd say it still counts
#1960 [18:02] <Ethan> whos mollstam?
#1961 [18:02] <ShaRose> head server guy
#1962 [18:02] <Ethan> oh
#1963 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> We still say there's nobody here that works for Mojang
#1964 [18:04] <DiskDaemon> indeed
#1965 [18:04] <Morrolan> Else his client's highlight counter might overflow ;D
#1966 [18:04] <Boreeas> We both have and do not have Mojang employees in this channel. We can't be sure unless someone observes our discussion.
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#1968 [18:15] <mollstam> :]
#1969 [18:15] <mollstam> well as you say I idle a lot but read highlight log and answer pm from time to time
#1970 [18:16] <ShaRose> heh, I thought you just left the bouncer on all the time tbh
#1971 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Don't suppose you're on here when Marc is as well, mollstam?
#1972 [18:19] <mollstam> GreyVulpine: marc has a schedule?
#1973 [18:20] <ShaRose> yes
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#1975 [18:20] <ShaRose> if memory serves he tries to work 9-5 local time
#1976 [18:22] <mollstam> oh, well marc forwards stuff to us so no I'm not really here
#1977 [18:22] <mollstam> I try to be here when stuff is burning
#1978 [18:23] <DiskDaemon> That's a good policy
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#1980 [19:00] <Moose> mollstam: apparently someone on 4chan is 'ddosing' minecraft.net until the Hunger System is fixed. Can you verify this?
#1981 [19:00] <ShaRose> someone on 4chan saying they will DDOS someone? You don't say...
#1982 [19:00] <Moose> nah, it was up before they posted the thread.
#1983 [19:01] <Moose> 15 minutes later, minecraft.net went down
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#1985 [19:01] <WoM-Guest> HELP!!!!
#1986 [19:01] <WoM-Guest> HEEEELP!!!!!
#1987 [19:01] <TheNoodle> No :<
#1988 [19:01] <WoM-Guest> HEEEEEEEEEELP! please!!
#1989 [19:01] <Eddie> First, calm down.
#1990 [19:02] <Moose> WoM-Guest, what is it?
#1991 [19:02] <WoM-Guest> i am getting a error saying could not create the java virtual machine
#1992 [19:02] <WoM-Guest> and my computer is being retarded
#1993 [19:02] <WoM-Guest> heelp! plox
#1994 [19:02] <Moose> WoM-Guest, from?
#1995 [19:02] <xales> ??> WoM-Guest win/dxdiag
#1996 [19:02] <WoM-Guest> when clikcing on the the minecraft launcher
#1997 [19:02] <VoxelHead> WoM-Guest: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1998 [19:02] <Moose> paste the error at paste.ubuntu.com including the VM Arguments.
#1999 [19:02] <VoxelHead> WoM-Guest: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2000 [19:03] <Moose> WoM-Guest, what Java version do you have?
#2001 [19:03] <WoM-Guest> what?
#2002 [19:03] <Moose> what java version do you have
#2003 [19:03] <WoM-Guest> latest
#2004 [19:03] <Moose> java 7 update x?
#2005 [19:03] <WoM-Guest> i don't know
#2006 [19:03] <WoM-Guest> help
#2007 [19:03] <Moose> press win+r then type cmd
#2008 [19:03] <Moose> then type in java -version
#2009 [19:04] <Moose> then tell me the version
#2010 [19:04] <xales> Moose: Failed to create JVM is usually a memory issue :p
#2011 [19:04] <WoM-Guest> 1.7 .5
#2012 [19:04] <Moose> I'm thinking that.
#2013 [19:04] <Moose> WoM-Guest: press win key
#2014 [19:04] <Moose> then click Control Panel
#2015 [19:04] <WoM-Guest> 1.7.05
#2016 [19:04] <Moose> then click Java
#2017 [19:04] <Moose> Tell me when you get that far
#2018 [19:05] <WoM-Guest> java control panel
#2019 [19:05] <Moose> click the Java tab
#2020 [19:05] <Moose> then click 'view' button
#2021 [19:05] <WoM-Guest> ok
#2022 [19:05] <WoM-Guest> did
#2023 [19:06] <Moose> under the "Runtime Parameters" row
#2024 [19:06] <Moose> double click the box
#2025 [19:06] <Moose> then type:
#2026 [19:06] <Moose> -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m
#2027 [19:06] <WoM-Guest> on what? frist or the second?
#2028 [19:06] <WoM-Guest> there are two lines
#2029 [19:06] <WoM-Guest> things
#2030 [19:06] <Moose> How many rows are there?
#2031 [19:06] <WoM-Guest> 2
#2032 [19:07] <Moose> 1.6 and 1.7?
#2033 [19:07] <WoM-Guest> 1.7 1.6
#2034 [19:07] <WoM-Guest> yeah
#2035 [19:07] <Moose> alright
#2036 [19:07] <Moose> on the 1.6 table, set enabled to false
#2037 [19:07] <WoM-Guest> what do i do help me i am freaking out
#2038 [19:07] <Moose> by unchecking the box
#2039 [19:07] <WoM-Guest> ok i did that
#2040 [19:07] <Moose> then in the 1.7 row
#2041 [19:07] <WoM-Guest> yeah?
#2042 [19:07] <Moose> type in:
#2043 [19:08] <WoM-Guest> yeah?
#2044 [19:08] <Moose> -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m
#2045 [19:08] <Moose> then click ok
#2046 [19:08] <Moose> and then close all of that
#2047 [19:08] <Moose> and try rerunning minecraft
#2048 [19:08] <WoM-Guest> -Xmx1024m -xms1024m ?
#2049 [19:08] <Moose> no
#2050 [19:08] <Moose> -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m
#2051 [19:08] <Moose> Capitalize the X on both
#2052 [19:09] <Moose> that's very important
#2053 [19:09] <WoM-Guest> -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m ?
#2054 [19:09] <Moose> yup
#2055 [19:09] <Eddie> lol
#2056 [19:09] <WoM-Guest> then what add?
#2057 [19:09] <WoM-Guest> or ok
#2058 [19:09] <WoM-Guest> witch?
#2059 [19:09] <Moose> click OK
#2060 [19:09] <Moose> and then close all of it
#2061 [19:09] <Moose> and try re-running minecraft.
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#2063 [19:09] <WoM-Guest> alrigh give me a sec
#2064 [19:11] <WoM-Guest> still gives me the same error message :(
#2065 [19:11] <Kobolds> So I just registered with the wrong e-mail, and now I can't get my verification code. Anyway to fix that?
#2066 [19:11] <Moose> WoM-Guest
#2067 [19:11] <Moose> press win+r
#2068 [19:11] <WoM-Guest> Moose it gave me the same error message HELP!
#2069 [19:11] <Moose> type in cmd
#2070 [19:11] <xales> Kobolds: Register again
#2071 [19:11] <WoM-Guest> yeah?
#2072 [19:11] <Kobolds> Xales, the name is taken though, anyway to free it?
#2073 [19:11] <WoM-Guest> Moose ?
#2074 [19:11] <xales> Kobolds: I'm not sure, try looking on http://help.mojang.com/
#2075 [19:11] <Moose> and then type: cd "%appdata%/.minecraft/bin/"
#2076 [19:12] <Moose> does an error come up
#2077 [19:12] <Kobolds> Xales: Yeah, been poking around there, not seen anything useful yet. I'll keep looking, but thanks
#2078 [19:12] <WoM-Guest> yeah
#2079 [19:12] <Moose> what's it say?
#2080 [19:13] <WoM-Guest> it's not recognised
#2081 [19:13] <WoM-Guest> sorry for spelling
#2082 [19:13] <Moose> okay then
#2083 [19:14] <WoM-Guest> i am scared!! :(
#2084 [19:14] <Moose> WoM-Guest
#2085 [19:14] <Moose> just force update minecraft
#2086 [19:14] <WoM-Guest> how
#2087 [19:14] <Moose> go into the minecraft launcher
#2088 [19:14] <Moose> click 'Options'
#2089 [19:14] <WoM-Guest> and it won't even let me go on the website
#2090 [19:14] <Moose> then click 'Force Update!'
#2091 [19:14] <xales> Moose.
#2092 [19:14] <Moose> the website is down
#2093 [19:14] <xales> Please listen ._.
#2094 [19:15] <xales> WoM-Guest: Do you know how much RAM your computer has?
#2095 [19:15] <WoM-Guest> it used to work fine a few days ago
#2096 [19:15] <WoM-Guest> it wont let me go on the launcher i get a error
#2097 [19:15] <WoM-Guest> i told you about
#2098 [19:15] <xales> WoM-Guest: Do you know how much RAM your computer has?
#2099 [19:16] <WoM-Guest> 3G
#2100 [19:16] <WoM-Guest> i think
#2101 [19:16] <xales> Please check. Right click on Computer, and go to Properties.
#2102 [19:16] <WoM-Guest> it's 3b
#2103 [19:16] <Moose> WoM-Guest: click win+r and then type dxdiag
#2104 [19:16] <xales> Moose: VoxelHead exists for a reason :p
#2105 [19:16] <Moose> WoM-Guest: then click 'Save all information'
#2106 [19:17] <Moose> once you save it
#2107 [19:17] <WoM-Guest> what
#2108 [19:17] <WoM-Guest> what
#2109 [19:17] <Moose> go to paste.ubuyntu.com
#2110 [19:17] <Moose> and paste the code
#2111 [19:17] <WoM-Guest> what do you mean
#2112 [19:17] <WoM-Guest> hold on
#2113 [19:17] <Moose> What part don't you get
#2114 [19:17] <WoM-Guest> ok
#2115 [19:17] <WoM-Guest> one sec
#2116 [19:17] * xales -> dinner
#2116 [19:17] <WoM-Guest> ok then?
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#2119 [19:18] <Smanly> Oh god
#2120 [19:18] <PLEASEHELP> Hello?
#2121 [19:18] <Smanly> Please change your nick to something less ALARMING
#2122 [19:18] <WoM-Guest> dude
#2123 [19:18] <PLEASEHELP> Im sorry
#2124 [19:18] <WoM-Guest> help
#2125 [19:19] <WoM-Guest> the website you gave me doesn't work
#2126 [19:19] <PLEASEHELP> Im just kinda Frustrated and worried.
#2127 [19:19] <Smanly> ./nick <newname>
#2128 [19:19] <WoM-Guest> OKI SAVED IT
#2129 [19:19] <WoM-Guest> now what?
#2130 [19:19] <Moose> oh sorry WoM-Guest
#2131 [19:19] <WoM-Guest> i did the save all info thing
#2132 [19:20] <Moose> it's paste.ubuntu.com
#2133 [19:20] <WoM-Guest> what?
#2134 [19:20] <Smanly> Thanks
#2135 [19:20] <Screwed> np
#2136 [19:20] <Smanly> Whats the problem, Screwed?
#2137 [19:20] <Screwed> But
#2138 [19:20] <WoM-Guest> wait
#2139 [19:21] <WoM-Guest> ok i pasted it now what
#2140 [19:21] <Biomechd> Moose: perhaps you know what to do about this? http://pastebin.com/mNTtH93r i've already tried updating java (in fact it told me i already had the latest version and i decided to just let it re-install)
#2141 [19:21] <Smanly> Give us the link, WoM-Guest
#2142 [19:21] <WoM-Guest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1118452/
#2143 [19:21] <Moose> Biomechd: update your drivers.
#2144 [19:21] <Screwed> I cant get on My Minecraft account and my Mojang account wont let me sign in and when I tried to get a new pass it didnt email me
#2145 [19:21] <Screwed> D:
#2146 [19:22] <Smanly> Not sure that I can help you with that.
#2147 [19:22] <WoM-Guest> Moose what do i do! :(
#2148 [19:22] <Moose> nice, still rocking Windows XP, WoM-Guest.
#2149 [19:22] <Smanly> Someone else may know more about it.
#2150 [19:22] <Screwed> What can I try?
#2151 [19:22] <WoM-Guest> yeah
#2152 [19:23] <Screwed> And does anyone know why MC.net is down?
#2153 [19:23] <Smanly> Nope
#2154 [19:23] <Smanly> Its just is.
#2155 [19:23] <WoM-Guest> please is there anytihng i can do? windows restore doesn't work btw. i tried it 50 diff ways
#2156 [19:23] <Moose> WoM-Guest
#2157 [19:23] <Smanly> WoM-Guest, relax
#2158 [19:23] <Moose> uninstall java
#2159 [19:23] <Screwed> Thanks anyways Smanly.
#2160 [19:23] <Moose> reinstall it
#2161 [19:24] <Screwed> Peace out
#2162 [19:24] <Screwed> Peace out
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#2164 [19:24] <WoM-Guest> ok ill try that one sec
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#2166 [19:24] <WoM-Guest> and all the updates?
#2167 [19:24] <Moose> yes
#2168 [19:24] <Moose> uninstall it completely
#2169 [19:24] <Moose> then get the new version at http://java.com/
#2170 [19:25] <WoM-Guest> give me a min
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#2172 [19:25] <WoM-Guest> thank you so much for helping me by the way your the best !
#2173 [19:26] <WoM-Guest> dammit i have to close the browser
#2174 [19:26] <WoM-Guest> can i come back in a min?
#2175 [19:26] <WoM-Guest> MOOSE!!!
#2176 [19:26] <WoM-Guest> can i?
#2177 [19:26] <Smanly> NO!
#2178 [19:26] <Moose> yes
#2179 [19:26] <WoM-Guest> Moose!
#2180 [19:26] <WoM-Guest> will you be here?
#2181 [19:26] <Moose> Smanly: quit it.
#2182 [19:26] <Moose> yes, WoM-Guest.
#2183 [19:26] <WoM-Guest> be right back ty
#2184 [19:26] <Smanly> Thats guy need to chill the eff out.
#2185 [19:27] <Biomechd> i'm guessing he's, like, 10
#2186 [19:27] <Moose> unless the girl I loved for the past year comes at my door
#2187 [19:27] <Smanly> XD
#2188 [19:27] <Moose> Then I'll be gone
#2189 [19:27] <Eddie> What if it's not a 'guy'?
#2190 [19:27] <Eddie> HMMM?
#2191 [19:27] <Smanly> *knock knock*
#2192 [19:27] <Moose> Smanly: no.
#2193 [19:27] <Eddie> Come in.
#2194 [19:27] * Smanly slaps Moose around a bit with a large trout
#2194 [19:27] <Moose> Eddie, imma telll you a joke
#2195 [19:27] <Moose> Knock Knock
#2196 [19:27] <Biomechd> regardless, they're still likely very young
#2197 [19:28] <Eddie> Come in.
#2198 [19:28] <Moose> wat
#2199 [19:28] <Moose> no
#2200 [19:28] <Smanly> Lol
#2201 [19:28] <Moose> that's not how it goes
#2202 [19:28] <Eddie> It doesn't matter!
#2203 [19:28] <Smanly> !
#2204 [19:28] <Moose> but
#2205 [19:28] <Moose> okay. :(
#2206 [19:28] <Smanly> I have a joke too, Moose.
#2207 [19:28] <Smanly> But, you have to start it.
#2208 [19:29] <Smanly> Moose pls
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#2210 [19:30] <Biomechd> "apple! apple! hey apple! apple! hey, apple! APPLE!!!" "ugh, what is it, orange?" "knife" "wha-- AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!"
#2211 [19:30] <Eddie> o.O
#2212 [19:30] <Smanly> lul
#2213 [19:30] <Smanly> k
#2214 [19:31] <Biomechd> sorry i'm just bored. since you're talking about jokes and all, it made me think of the annoying orange
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#2216 [19:32] <WoM-Guest> i am back
#2217 [19:32] <WoM-Guest> heelp
#2218 [19:33] <WoM-Guest> Moose!
#2219 [19:33] <Moose> ?
#2220 [19:33] <WoM-Guest> Help!
#2221 [19:33] <WoM-Guest> i reisntalled it
#2222 [19:33] <Moose> did you reinstall java
#2223 [19:33] <Moose> okay
#2224 [19:33] <Moose> good
#2225 [19:33] <Moose> now run it.
#2226 [19:33] <WoM-Guest> run what
#2227 [19:33] <Moose> minecraft >_>
#2228 [19:33] <WoM-Guest> still doesn't work
#2229 [19:33] <WoM-Guest> same error message
#2230 [19:33] <Moose> reinstall minecraft
#2231 [19:34] <WoM-Guest> how
#2232 [19:34] <Moose> go to minecraft.net
#2233 [19:34] <Moose> click Download
#2234 [19:34] <Moose> run it
#2235 [19:34] <Eddie> minecraft.net is down
#2236 [19:34] <Moose> click 'options'
#2237 [19:34] <Smanly> You need to backup then delete you Bin
#2238 [19:34] <WoM-Guest> it's not installed
#2239 [19:34] <Moose> WoM-Guest: install it then
#2240 [19:34] <WoM-Guest> and the website doesn't work
#2241 [19:34] <Moose> then you're SOL.
#2242 [19:34] <Smanly> Or, rather your .minecraft folder.
#2243 [19:35] <WoM-Guest> ?
#2244 [19:35] <WoM-Guest> SOL?
#2245 [19:35] <Smanly> Shit Outta Luck
#2246 [19:35] <Smanly> i.e. Screwed
#2247 [19:36] <WoM-Guest> ?
#2248 [19:36] <WoM-Guest> so there is nothing i can do????????/
#2249 [19:36] <Smanly> Not right now, I guess
#2250 [19:36] * Eddie slaps VoxelHead
#2250 [19:36] <WoM-Guest> what does that MEAN!!!
#2251 [19:36] <Smanly> What was your error, WoM-Guest?
#2252 [19:37] <WoM-Guest> could not create the java virtual machine
#2253 [19:37] <WoM-Guest> could not create the java virtual machine!!!
#2254 [19:37] <Smanly> Stop facking spamming
#2255 [19:37] <WoM-Guest> :(
#2256 [19:37] <WoM-Guest> sooo
#2257 [19:38] <Rikairchy> does it say why?
#2258 [19:38] <Smanly> WoM-Guest Dude, just wait a min.
#2259 [19:38] <WoM-Guest> a fatal exaption accurd
#2260 [19:38] <Moose> a fatal exaption accord?
#2261 [19:38] <WoM-Guest> yes
#2262 [19:38] <Smanly> Does it come up in a Java window, or a minecraft window?
#2263 [19:39] <WoM-Guest> java vitrual machine launcher
#2264 [19:39] <Smanly> So, not minecraft, right?
#2265 [19:39] <WoM-Guest> i don't know
#2266 [19:39] <Smanly> Does it look anything like minecraft?
#2267 [19:39] <WoM-Guest> all i know is i can't open minecraft and the computer is being messed up
#2268 [19:39] <Smanly> Wait, have you ever had minecraft running on it?
#2269 [19:40] <WoM-Guest> no! it's a small window that gives a error, could not create the java virtual machine
#2270 [19:40] <WoM-Guest> YES PERfectly fine a few days ago
#2271 [19:40] <WoM-Guest> can you guys help or not
#2272 [19:40] <WoM-Guest> :(
#2273 [19:40] <Smanly> Not is you keep spamming
#2274 [19:40] <WoM-Guest> i am not fucking spamming
#2275 [19:40] <WoM-Guest> k i am sorry
#2276 [19:40] <Smanly> Yes, yes you are
#2277 [19:40] <Boreeas> Are you sure you removed all installations of java before you installed the new one?
#2278 [19:41] <WoM-Guest> YES :)
#2279 [19:41] <Smanly> What has changed since it last worked?
#2280 [19:41] <Boreeas> Are you sure you got the correct build for your architecture? That is, 64bit java for a 64bit OS and 32bit java for a 32bit OS?
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#2282 [19:41] <WoM-Guest> a window COMES UP SAYING , could not create the java virtual machine!!!!!!!!
#2283 [19:41] <Smanly> We know, WoM-Guest.
#2284 [19:42] <Smanly> What is VoxelHead doing?
#2285 [19:42] <Boreeas> Muting him for repeating letters
#2286 [19:42] <Kealper> being VoxelHead
#2287 [19:42] <WoM-Guest> how do i check what bit i have?
#2288 [19:42] <Boreeas> ??> WoM-Guest win/dxdiag
#2289 [19:42] <VoxelHead> WoM-Guest: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2290 [19:42] <VoxelHead> WoM-Guest: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2291 [19:42] <Smanly> But, what does -/+q mean?
#2292 [19:42] <Moose> Boreeas: already done
#2293 [19:42] <Smanly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1118452/
#2294 [19:42] <Smanly> Thats his
#2295 [19:42] <mollstam> Moose: I can verify that there's lots of traffic, probably a ddos, that's about as much as can be deduced frmo any ddos so...
#2296 [19:43] <Kealper> Smanly: channel-wide quiet-mode
#2297 [19:43] <mollstam> : )
#2298 [19:43] <Moose> [16:21] <WoM-Guest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1118452/
#2299 [19:43] <Boreeas> Windows XP, so probably 32 bit
#2300 [19:43] <Kealper> !login
#2301 [19:43] <Boreeas> Also, 32 bit dxdiag.
#2302 [19:43] <WoM-Guest> so
#2303 [19:43] <Moose> mollstam: I guess the only solution is to nerf Hunger! XD
#2304 [19:43] <ShaRose> mollstam is it actually causing any issues or is it just "high traffic"
#2305 [19:43] <WoM-Guest> do i have the right java how do i check?
#2306 [19:43] <Smanly> Only snoop and website are down.
#2307 [19:44] <Boreeas> mollstam: Tell notch to kill people immediately when hunger reaches 0. That's the "fix".
#2308 [19:44] <Boreeas> WoM-Guest: Open cmd.exe, enter "java -version", hit enter and copy the output here
#2309 [19:44] <Moose> mollstam, can't you see if there are any IPs making quick connections numerous of times frequently?
#2310 [19:45] <Moose> Boreeas: 7_05
#2311 [19:45] <WoM-Guest> it doesnt say
#2312 [19:45] <Moose> We already went through this.
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#2314 [19:45] <Moose> WoM-Guest: you didn't install java correctly then.
#2315 [19:46] <Kealper> isn't Java 7 and classic a no-go?
#2316 [19:46] <Moose> Kealper: it works.
#2317 [19:46] <Smanly> He is playing classic?
#2318 [19:46] <Boreeas> Smanly: q is the channel mode to mute a user ('quiet'). +q mutes a user, -q unmutes. q takes a hostmask: nick!user@host, anyone matching won't be permitted to speak
#2319 [19:46] <Moose> no.
#2320 [19:46] <WoM-Guest> IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO!?
#2321 [19:46] <Boreeas> Moose: I actually wanted to know the version after the reinstallation
#2322 [19:46] <Moose> yes, WoM-Guest
#2323 [19:46] <Moose> Don't use caps.
#2324 [19:46] <Kealper> his name is WoM-Guest... that's World of Minecraft, which is a Classic complete mod
#2325 [19:46] <Moose> Boreeas: 7_05.
#2326 [19:46] <Smanly> Hmm
#2327 [19:46] <Moose> Kealper: he's using their IRC client
#2328 [19:47] <Kealper> that seems odd to do
#2329 [19:47] <WoM-Guest> WHAT!?
#2330 [19:47] <WoM-Guest> what is there to do?
#2331 [19:47] <WoM-Guest> Moose
#2332 [19:47] <WoM-Guest> i need to go soon
#2333 [19:47] <Moose> and it isn't JUST a Classic Community
#2334 [19:47] <WoM-Guest> please
#2335 [19:47] <Smanly> Please kick this guy out, holy shit.
#2336 [19:47] <WoM-Guest> Moose!
#2337 [19:47] <Moose> They also do final stuff.
#2338 [19:47] <Moose> WoM-Guest
#2339 [19:47] <Moose> nothing to be done
#2340 [19:47] * Kealper just shuts up then and goes back to eating ramen
#2340 [19:47] <Moose> just wait patiently.
#2341 [19:47] <WoM-Guest> FUCK YOU ALLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2342 [19:47] <Moose> I think he's mad.
#2343 [19:47] * Kealper kicked WoM-Guest from #minecrafthelp (Reason: oM-Guest :WoM-Guest)
#2344 [19:47] <Smanly> YEah....
#2345 [19:47] <Boreeas> WoM-Guest: Turn it down, please
#2346 [19:48] <Boreeas> Oh, that works, too
#2347 [19:48] <Smanly> Perhaps a troll?
#2348 [19:48] <Moose> hope not
#2349 [19:48] <Boreeas> Just an impatient kid
#2350 [19:48] <Moose> just wasted lots of time
#2351 [19:48] <Boreeas> Moose: How do you know he installed 7.05? Do you also happen to know if he installed 64 or 32 bit?
#2352 [19:49] <Moose> [16:21] <WoM-Guest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1118452/
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#2354 [19:49] <Moose> It wouldn't install x64 if he did.
#2355 [19:50] <Boreeas> Oh, does it prevent you? I never tried.
#2356 [19:50] <Moose> yup
#2357 [19:50] <Moose> and vice versa
#2358 [19:50] <Kealper> you can install 32-bit java on a 64-bit computer :|
#2359 [19:50] <Smanly> ya
#2360 [19:51] <Kealper> actually that's usually what it defaults to if you choose to install it on a 64-bit computer iirc
#2361 [19:51] <Kealper> the 32-bit one, that is
#2362 [19:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> i usually tell people on 64bit to install both 32 and 64.
#2363 [19:51] <Kealper> that's generally a good idea, yes
#2364 [19:51] <|Kiikun|Janus|> since their browser is 90% of the time 32bit
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#2367 [20:06] <Xenorosth> Uh. Hey. I got a question. I'm trying to work with map making, and I was wondering if I could get someone to test it.
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#2374 [20:15] <Smanly> Xenorosth Test out the map?
#2375 [20:16] <Xenorosth> Yeah.
#2376 [20:16] <Xenorosth> I did it on my brother's computer with mods, so I'm not sure if it'll work with default minecraft.
#2377 [20:17] <Smanly> Why wouldn't it?
#2378 [20:17] <Xenorosth> I don't know. :P It's my first map ever. So....
#2379 [20:18] <Xenorosth> Yeah. I don't actually know much about minecraft. In fact, this map was the first I've ever used a redstone repeater in.
#2380 [20:18] <Smanly> Lol
#2381 [20:19] <Xenorosth> So, I kinda want to have some people to test it.
#2382 [20:19] <Xenorosth> Decided to try making a glass maze.
#2383 [20:19] <Smanly> What do you mean by test it?
#2384 [20:19] <Smanly> Test what exactly?
#2385 [20:19] <Dan> !check smp.minecraftersnetwork.net
#2386 [20:19] <Dan> what
#2387 [20:20] <Smanly> Lol
#2388 [20:20] <Dan> that bot needs fixing
#2389 [20:20] <Smanly> wut
#2390 [20:20] <Kealper> O.o
#2391 [20:20] <Xenorosth> Whut...
#2392 [20:20] * Kealper checks
#2392 [20:20] <Xenorosth> Anyway, I'm trying to see how 'doable' it is.
#2393 [20:20] <Xenorosth> If I made it too hard or something.
#2394 [20:20] <Dan> i know its online i wanted to see if that bot is fixed
#2395 [20:20] <Smanly> Oic
#2396 [20:20] <Smanly> !check Server.blaizecraft.com
#2397 [20:20] <Smanly> :D
#2398 [20:20] <Smanly> Oh, 237ms
#2399 [20:20] <Xenorosth> I know the solution roughly, and STILL it took me a few minutes to get out.
#2400 [20:20] <Smanly> Uh, wth.
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#2402 [20:21] <Smanly> You could just put it on PMC, Xenorosth.
#2403 [20:22] <computerproblem> hey i havnt played on my own server for a while and now when i run the minecraft server.exe it wont work so i deleted the server from my list and the server file to make a new one and it keeps saying cant reach server y is this?
#2404 [20:22] <Smanly> Are you sure the server is running?
#2405 [20:23] <computerproblem> i have the ports fowarded and have the server.exe running and the correct ip in
#2406 [20:23] <computerproblem> and nothing is working.
#2407 [20:23] <Smanly> Where is the server running?
#2408 [20:23] <Xenorosth> PMC?
#2409 [20:23] <Smanly> Planet Minecraft
#2410 [20:23] <Xenorosth> Never heard of it.
#2411 [20:24] <Smanly> PlanetMinecraft.com
#2412 [20:24] <computerproblem> what do you mean smanly?
#2413 [20:24] <Smanly> Is it on the same computer that you are playing MC on?
#2414 [20:24] <Kealper> Dan: looks like it's just a problem with dumb regex.... i'll fix it in a sec
#2415 [20:25] <computerproblem> ya
#2416 [20:25] <Smanly> computerproblem: Try using "localhost" as the IP for it.
#2417 [20:25] <computerproblem> how did you know that?
#2418 [20:25] <Smanly> Um... what do you mean?
#2419 [20:26] <computerproblem> nvm can you test it out for me?
#2420 [20:26] <Smanly> Can you connect to it then?
#2421 [20:26] <computerproblem> yes its green and running
#2422 [20:26] <Smanly> But, you cant connect using your external IP?
#2423 [20:26] <computerproblem> ya.
#2424 [20:26] <Smanly> Then you must not have port forwarded correctly
#2425 [20:26] <Smanly> Or you have the wrong port.
#2426 [20:27] <computerproblem> a port is 25565 correct?
#2427 [20:27] <Smanly> YEah
#2428 [20:27] <Xenorosth> Hm...
#2429 [20:27] <Dan> that is the default port for minecraft
#2430 [20:27] <Smanly> Did you check you router's settings, computerproblem?
#2431 [20:28] <computerproblem> im looking at them and it is enabled ip the port and the name
#2432 [20:29] <Smanly> Restart you router.
#2433 [20:29] <computerproblem> kk
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#2435 [20:31] <computerproblem_> back
#2436 [20:31] <Smanly> I see
#2437 [20:31] <computerproblem_> i forgot what was the thing you could search for
#2438 [20:32] <computerproblem_> it would give you your ip
#2439 [20:32] <computerproblem_> it was like cmp?
#2440 [20:32] <Smanly> whatismyipaddress.com
#2441 [20:32] <Smanly> But you are refering to CMD, i think.
#2442 [20:32] <computerproblem_> ah yes
#2443 [20:33] <computerproblem_> i forgot what to type for a certain ip do you know what it is?
#2444 [20:33] <Smanly> ipconfig?
#2445 [20:34] <computerproblem_> THERE WE FREAKIN GO!
#2446 [20:34] <Smanly> Woah there
#2447 [20:34] <computerproblem_> my ipv4 lasts 3 digits were changed.
#2448 [20:34] <Smanly> Lol
#2449 [20:34] <computerproblem_> thanks smanly
#2450 [20:34] <Smanly> Np
#2451 [20:35] <computerproblem_> bye!
#2452 [20:35] <Smanly> Adios
#2453 [20:37] <NinjaKirby> Wow, I have 2 note blocks that won't play, despite the block above being clear
#2454 [20:38] <Smanly> Hmph
#2455 [20:38] <NinjaKirby> Ah wait, it's the strange glitch of Redstone repeaters at work I think
#2456 [20:38] <Smanly> Why are you leaving your repeaters at your work?
#2457 [20:39] <Smanly> :P
#2458 [20:39] <NinjaKirby> Hehe, I once used a Minecraft Logic Gate analogy to explain something at work, depressing
#2459 [20:39] <NinjaKirby> But it made explaining things a lot easier.
#2460 [20:41] <NinjaKirby> Well, it's a clusterfrak of redstone, but it works \o/
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#2462 [20:46] <NinjaKirby> I think building this adventure map is my worst decision ever.
#2463 [20:46] <Smanly> XD
#2464 [20:47] <NinjaKirby> The time involved to produce this thing, and the reward of people potentially saying, "Hmmm, yeah, map was alright, needs more work", and the alternative to what I could be doing, is ridiculous.
#2465 [20:48] <NinjaKirby> But at the same time, I kinda enjoy it. But that's the bad thing, I enjoy doing... basically bugger all useful, heh.
#2466 [20:52] <NinjaKirby> I whine a lot, my apologies.
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#2470 [21:18] <Guest_> helo
#2471 [21:18] <Guest_> is minecraft server down?
#2472 [21:19] <Guest_> anyone?
#2473 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> !login
#2474 [21:19] <GreyVulpine> !isdown
#2475 [21:19] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine: It's not just you! http://www.minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2476 [21:20] * GreyVulpine points to status displays at: http://help.mojang.com/
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#2478 [21:32] <slowfi> I downloaded a minecraft world. it's in the form of a zip file containing several directories, which I know how to extract and put somewhere on my computer my question: where do I put these files and directories if I want to explore the world with minecraft?.
#2479 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> What operating system?
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#2481 [21:32] <slowfi> win7
#2482 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/profile
#2483 [21:32] <VoxelHead> win/profile: It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#2484 [21:32] <VoxelHead> win/profile: Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#2485 [21:32] <GreyVulpine> Whoops
#2486 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> start -> in the search bar: %appdata%
#2487 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Find the .minecraft folder. You'll put the world's folder in the 'saves' folder
#2488 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.. which FAQ was..
#2489 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> ?? win/.minecraft
#2490 [21:33] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2491 [21:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah, right..
#2492 [21:36] <slowfi> just dump them in %APPDATA%\Roaming\.minecraft\saves ? I don't have any other worlds saved
#2493 [21:37] <zen> If you get a bunch of folders from the zip you will need to make a folder in the saves folder for them
#2494 [21:37] <zen> those folders being named region DIM1 DIM-1 etc
#2495 [21:38] * zen saunters off back to reading
#2495 [21:38] <Disori> !down minecraft.net
#2496 [21:38] <GreyBot> Disori: It's not just you! http://minecraft.net looks down from here.
#2497 [21:38] <slowfi> ok make a new subfolder of saves named whatever I want to call the downloaded world
#2498 [21:39] <GreyVulpine> Right
#2499 [21:40] <slowfi> I'll try now. there isn't anything I can harm.I got no other saved worlds
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#2502 [21:43] <jjr> is their any way to make my computer run minecraft faster
#2503 [21:44] <Smanly> Optifine
#2504 [21:44] <jjr> waz that
#2505 [21:44] <Smanly> Ask Google
#2506 [21:44] <jjr> k thx
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#2508 [21:49] <slowfi> optifine helps and the multiplayer servers I visit don't ban it
#2509 [21:49] <NinjaKirby> I guess optifine is redundant if the client runs smoothly.
#2510 [21:50] <slowfi> I couldn't kill zombies until I installed optifine, but my laptop is really lame
#2511 [21:50] <slowfi> I used to drown in watewr all the time
#2512 [21:51] <NinjaKirby> Good lord O_o
#2513 [21:54] <slowfi> ok I've extracted this minecraft world and I'll try to explore it. maybe my laptop will crash
#2514 [21:56] <slowfi> it doesn't even show up in the minecraft dialog, sigh
#2515 [22:01] <slowfi> I try again
#2516 [22:04] <slowfi> ok it works. thanks guys.
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#2522 [23:02] <mollstam> :o
#2523 [23:03] <Elystus> o/
#2524 [23:04] <Elystus> How are you?
#2525 [23:04] <Elystus> I see, minecraft.net is down.
#2526 [23:04] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/MUbf
#2527 [23:05] * Elystus prepares for the surge of forum threads about the site being down.
#2527 [23:05] * Elystus gets the delete button ready.
#2527 [23:05] * Rikairchy loads the n00b kanin
#2527 [23:05] <Rikairchy> ;D
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#2530 [23:23] <TheStranger> gamers watch this you won't regret it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtHtwgMZlSQ&feature=plcp
#2531 [23:23] <TheStranger> gamers watch this you won't regret it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtHtwgMZlSQ&feature=plcp
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#2533 [23:28] <Elystus> .-.
#2534 [23:29] <Kealper> not sure if i should ban that ip or not
#2535 [23:29] <Kealper> tempting, but ehh...
#2536 [23:29] <Rikairchy> ban whom?
#2537 [23:30] <Kealper> whoops
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#2539 [23:30] <Kealper> i accidentally reported his video for mass advertising spam
#2540 [23:30] <Kealper> silly me
#2541 [23:30] <Rikairchy> i made that same mistake as well
#2542 [23:31] <Kealper> lol
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#2545 [23:58] <slowfi> here's one thing I simply cannot do: pillar up one block (of dirt stone, sand, gravel, whatever.does not matter) when standing in water that's 1 deep. it seems to be impossible. does it require aqua affinity? it's easy to do when not in water
#2546 [23:58] <slowfi> that means I am unable to build in shallow water
#2547 [23:59] <slowfi> what's the secret?
#2548 [23:59] <mollstam> Hi there, I see you are from Mojang. I had gotten a Skype call from a person saying they are an undercover agent. His name is George Cummins. He claims that he has reports of me hacking and he is able to ban me from playing Minecraft. Could you please confirm this?