#1 [00:00] <Dragonkkealk> Instead of installing a program i don't know and don't trust, what if i just deleted my .AL's and forced updates?
#2 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> skyboy: The service is down, see help.mojang.com
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#4 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> Dragonkkealk: That's a potential. Creative are a highly regarded audio company though, as a second alterntive
#5 [00:02] <skyboy> DiskDaemon: yes, i just realized that, from the error page i got.. which actually tells me the sevrers are down
#6 [00:02] <Marc_IRL> I show green across the board
#7 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> It's good now
#8 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> !paid madhat33
#9 [00:02] <Seth> Hello I would l would like to suggest an idea for minecraft pocket edition
#10 [00:02] <hipie13> http://pastebin.com/7R8hfAP8
#11 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: The top-left one was red a few minutes ago.
#12 [00:02] <Marc_IRL> I can tell you that it's an unpaid account
#13 [00:02] <skyboy> well, it's not green
#14 [00:02] <skyboy> the background of the page is green, and the fact you're using an image instead of text strikes me as awkward
#15 [00:02] <Seth> Hello
#16 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> kip6: You need to pay for Miencraft before madhat33 can be used with it.
#17 [00:03] * DiskDaemon pats AuBot
#17 [00:03] <Marc_IRL> kip6: What happened to your username being creeper797?
#18 [00:03] <Seth> I want there to be chest in minecraft pe
#19 [00:04] <skyboy> i think he changed emails
#20 [00:04] <Marc_IRL> Yo no tengo toda la noche
#21 [00:04] <kip6> i think someone changed it to madhat33
#22 [00:04] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: That might be a friends account
#23 [00:04] <Marc_IRL> You can't change usernames...
#24 [00:04] <Marc_IRL> In fact, you can't even change the email address
#25 [00:04] <Seth> Can someone help me
#26 [00:04] <skyboy> Marc_IRL: but you can start using a different email address
#27 [00:04] <hipie13> disk this is my dxdiag: http://pastebin.com/7R8hfAP8
#28 [00:04] <skyboy> i think that's what happened
#29 [00:04] <kip6> than how did it change.
#30 [00:04] <skyboy> or, he's trying to steal a paid account from someoen he knows
#31 [00:04] <Marc_IRL> It didn't change, because you can't change it
#32 [00:04] <Seth> What's mogangs phone number
#33 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> ??> hipie13 gpu/amd
#34 [00:05] <VoxelHead> hipie13: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#35 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> Seth: You want to call Sweden?
#36 [00:05] <Marc_IRL> There is no phone number. Live support would take a tremendous amount of time, and would be international for almost anyone.
#37 [00:06] <Khazzi> Hello again, does anybody here know much about memory allocation for minecraft?
#38 [00:07] <Marc_IRL> I give up. I don't even understand his problem.
#39 [00:07] <DiskDaemon> Khazzi: Yes. 256mb is enough for anybody using vanilla. 384mb is recommended. 512mb if you're using simple mods or a 32x texture pack, 1024mb for larger requirements
#40 [00:07] <skyboy> Marc_IRL: i think the diagnoses is going to be either "attempted theft" or "PEBCAK"
#41 [00:07] <kip6> so now i have to make the madhat33 premium
#42 [00:07] <Khazzi> sorry, I meant how to allocate memory lol
#43 [00:07] <Khazzi> specifically for a server
#44 [00:07] <Marc_IRL> kip6: Answer me: do you own creeper797?
#45 [00:08] <kip6> yes
#46 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Khazzi: yes, see http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/#cl
#47 [00:08] <Marc_IRL> That account is a paid account. madhat33 is not a paid account. If you want to play with madhat33, you need to pay for it on that username too,
#48 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: If kip6 can prove that he owns it, with the transaction id from when it was purchased, might he be able to sort out the email issue with it?
#49 [00:09] <Dragonkkealk> that didn't work
#50 [00:10] <Marc_IRL> kip6: If you cannot log into creeper797, you need to change the password. If you cannot change the password, it's probably because you're using the wrong email address, if you're using the wrong email address, you need to give us the transaction ID from the purchase so that we can change it.
#51 [00:10] <DiskDaemon> Dragonkkealk: Then please follow the prescribed course.
#52 [00:10] <Dragonkkealk> prescribed course?
#53 [00:10] <Dragonkkealk> oh no i did that and it didn't work
#54 [00:10] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Yes, this is all very standard stuff. I'm just kind of frustrated it's taken a half an hour to pull all of these details out.
#55 [00:11] <Marc_IRL> In fact, there's an article on it: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001-cannot-get-password-reset-emails
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#57 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> kip6: Marc_IRL is the accounts guy at Mojang. He can help you, but only after things like the transaction id are given to him (by private message) as proof
#58 [00:11] <Dragonkkealk> well that website isn't helping me
#59 [00:11] <Elystus> Hotgreen01, can you give me what the target is right now?
#60 [00:12] <kip6> where in the email is the transaction id
#61 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> kip6: Mine was at the top right, with a label called "Transaction ID:"
#62 [00:13] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
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#64 [00:15] <kip6> i cant find the email.
#65 [00:15] <Marc_IRL> kip6: Did you read the help article I just posted?
#66 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Do bank transactions record the transaction id too?
#67 [00:16] <Dragonkkealk> that screwed up my game completally
#68 [00:16] <Marc_IRL> Banks don't have access to the transaction ID
#69 [00:16] <Marc_IRL> It never touches their systems
#70 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> Dragonkkealk: Sorry, reinstall and try some other solution.
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#72 [00:18] <kip6> i think i got the transaction id
#73 [00:18] <Dragonkkealk> well i'm trying, but it won't let me delete it
#74 [00:18] <Dragonkkealk> the .minecraft
#75 [00:19] <DiskDaemon> ??> Dragonkkealk win/reinst
#76 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Dragonkkealk: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#77 [00:19] <VoxelHead> Dragonkkealk: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#78 [00:20] <Dragonkkealk> it says requires admin access, (which i am an admin) and then i click continue (shield by it) and says i need permission
#79 [00:20] <DiskDaemon> Dragonkkealk: Do not delete the .minecraft folder itself
#80 [00:20] <Dragonkkealk> i have no saves so nothing to lose
#81 [00:21] <Dragonkkealk> i should be able to though
#82 [00:21] <DiskDaemon> Dragonkkealk: So you still have your same problem when you follow those instructions?
#83 [00:21] <Dragonkkealk> yes i cannot delete the folders: mods and resources
#84 [00:21] <Dragonkkealk> says i need admin access
#85 [00:22] <Dragonkkealk> but i am an admin
#86 [00:22] <DiskDaemon> Dragonkkealk: You can right-click on the folder and set the ownership of the folder (and its contents) back to you
#87 [00:22] <Marc_IRL> kip6: So can you send it to me?
#88 [00:23] <kip6> how do i sent it to you?
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#90 [00:23] <Dragonkkealk> no clue how to do that
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#92 [00:23] <Marc_IRL> kip6: Double click my name on the sidebar to open a new chat window with me
#93 [00:23] <DiskDaemon> Dragonkkealk: Learn How to Take or Assign Ownership of Files and Folders http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ff404240.aspx
#94 [00:23] <Hotgreen01_> is Elystus here
#95 [00:25] <Elystus> I got pinged?
#96 [00:25] <Hotgreen01_> ?
#97 [00:25] <Elystus> Oh, you timed out?
#98 [00:25] <Hotgreen01_> looks to be
#99 [00:25] <Elystus> As I was asking
#100 [00:25] <Elystus> What antivirus do you have?
#101 [00:25] <Dragonkkealk> this website isn't working
#102 [00:25] <Hotgreen01_> Microsoft Security Esentials
#103 [00:25] <Dragonkkealk> i don't have a security tab
#104 [00:25] <Hotgreen01_> I have added exceptions to the AV prog and even tried running with it disabled
#105 [00:25] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: Can you disable all protocals for it?
#106 [00:25] <Elystus> ones that relate to ipv6 that is.
#107 [00:26] <Hotgreen01_> let me check
#108 [00:27] <Hotgreen01_> I cannot, but I did disable MSE and tested without it running
#109 [00:27] <Dragonkkealk> you guys just screwed up my game
#110 [00:27] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: My only idea is that Java got messed up when it installed. Try a fresh install of Java 7.
#111 [00:27] <Elystus> Dragonkkealk: What exactly happened?
#112 [00:27] <Hotgreen01_> I have done that as well
#113 [00:27] <Hotgreen01_> 4 time actually
#114 [00:28] <Hotgreen01_> here is what I did: Uninstall Java
#115 [00:28] <Dragonkkealk> i could get on after that first link you gave me, but i couldn't join servers, it looked like it should have given me an error because of that flash of white but i cannot play
#116 [00:28] <Hotgreen01_> then restart, then reinstall, then restart
#117 [00:28] <Hotgreen01_> then tested the launcher
#118 [00:28] <Hotgreen01_> no dice
#119 [00:28] <Hotgreen01_> I also tried Java 6 and Java 7 in 32 and 64 bit
#120 [00:29] <Dragonkkealk> ooh i see what's going on
#121 [00:30] <Dragonkkealk> i need to restart my computer because it thinks it's being run by something
#122 [00:30] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: are you able to play in browser?
#123 [00:32] <Hotgreen01_> are you still there?
#124 [00:32] <Elystus> Yes
#125 [00:32] <Hotgreen01_> k, thought I might have dropped again
#126 [00:32] <Marc_IRL> I give up. It's been an hour, and now kip6 isn't responding to me here or via PMs. If he comes back, he can send the transaction ID in an email
#127 [00:32] <kip6> im here
#128 [00:35] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: So does it work in browser?
#129 [00:35] * DiskDaemon returns back to working on http://www.minecraftwiki.net/index.php?title=Mods/The_Aether/Projects
#129 [00:35] <Hotgreen01_> yes
#130 [00:35] <Elystus> That is really quite odd...
#131 [00:35] <Elystus> I guess it might be a hosts file issue.
#132 [00:35] <Hotgreen01_> yes it is
#133 [00:36] <Elystus> THe hosts file is located at C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\
#134 [00:36] <Elystus> Open the hosts file and put the contents on pastebin.com
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#136 [00:37] <Hotgreen01_> then what?
#137 [00:40] <Elystus> press submmit and give me the pastebin link
#138 [00:40] <Hotgreen01_> http://pastebin.com/iZZF1Zbq
#139 [00:41] <Elystus> hosts file isn't the issue.
#140 [00:41] <Hotgreen01_> I have never touched it
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#142 [00:41] <Elystus> When you log in, you said that it says cannot connect?
#143 [00:42] <Hotgreen01_> it just says "login failed"
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#145 [00:43] <Mikeylord> Is it possible for me to play my Minecraft world from another computer?
#146 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Mikeylord - Yes
#147 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> Mikeylord - What operating system are you running?
#148 [00:44] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: Try a password reset :/ I am running out of options here lol.
#149 [00:44] <Mikeylord> Well the OS I created the game from is Mac and the other is Windows
#150 [00:44] <Hotgreen01_> My friend did that and we still have the same issue
#151 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Mikeylord - On the Mac, hit Command+shift+G to bring up the Go To FOlder Command
#152 [00:44] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: If that doesn't help, I don't think I will be able to help without physically seeing the computer.
#153 [00:44] <Hotgreen01_> I know this is a pain, been fighting with fir for a while
#154 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> Mikeylord - There, put in: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#155 [00:45] <Hotgreen01_> I have had this issue on 2 machines that are Win7 pro 64bit with any version of Java
#156 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Mikeylord - Find the saves folder, inside, you'll see a folder marked with your world's name. Copy that
#157 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> On windows, you'll hit the start menu, then in the search bar or Run command, you'll type in: %appdata%
#158 [00:45] <Mikeylord> Ok I'll try that. Thanks.
#159 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> When you hit enter, you'll need to find .minecraft, you'll then place the saves folder in there to transfer your world
#160 [00:45] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: Would there be any possibility if me being able to use teamviewer? I don't think i can find a solution without seeing the computer.
#161 [00:45] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: Would there be any possibility if me being able to use teamviewer? I don't think i can find a solution without seeing the computer.
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#163 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> "Login Failed" either means the username/password is wrong... or
#164 [00:46] <Hotgreen01_> sure what do I need to do?
#165 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> It's a firewall issue
#166 [00:46] <Hotgreen01_> my friend is not here and I do not have an account yet
#167 [00:47] <Hotgreen01_> I play on xbox and mobile
#168 [00:47] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: When I asked you to disable the antivirus, did you disable your firewall as well?
#169 [00:48] <Hotgreen01_> I disabled FW on router, Windows, and killed MSE
#170 [00:49] <Hotgreen01_> are there anyknown issue with MC and Comcast?
#171 [00:49] <Hotgreen01_> *known
#172 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, one.
#173 [00:49] <GreyVulpine> ??< index
#174 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Crap, it's not in Vox's index anymore.
#175 [00:50] <GreyVulpine> Ever install a program called Comcast Constant Guard?
#176 [00:50] <Hotgreen01_> I let them do their setup crap on a linux box
#177 [00:51] <Hotgreen01_> I didn't get any of that stuff they want to install
#178 [00:51] <DiskDaemon> GreyVulpine: Which faq entry were you looking for
#179 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> There's a comcast constsant guard faq entry, but I don't remember if it's on Vox or Wug's Wugbot
#180 [00:51] <GreyVulpine> s/constsant/constant
#181 [00:52] <DiskDaemon> okay, I'll see what I can find in the logs
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#183 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Doesn't seem like that though
#184 [00:52] <GreyVulpine> Login Failed still, for the most part, means the username or password is being entered wrongly
#185 [00:53] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: Find logs from march or something and search for Comcast
#186 [00:53] <Elystus> Well Wugbot is dead so :/
#187 [00:53] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: His friend was unable to log in through that computer.
#188 [00:54] <Elystus> They also tried password resets.
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#190 [00:54] <Hotgreen01_> I am wanting to go premium on MC but if it won't work on my comps then what is the point?
#191 [00:55] <DiskDaemon> it's only been in the past week (sinc March) that constant guard has been seen to be mentioned. Morrolan was saying that it likes to mess with controls
#192 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Hotgreen01_ - Do you happen to run Zonealarm?
#193 [00:55] <Hotgreen01_> nope no zonealarm for me
#194 [00:55] <GreyVulpine> Ah, right.
#195 [00:56] <GreyVulpine> Any other security software other than MSE?
#196 [00:56] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: Are people able to log in on other computers using this account?
#197 [00:56] <DiskDaemon> ?? phantominput
#198 [00:56] <VoxelHead> phantominput: If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#199 [00:56] <Hotgreen01_> GreyVulpine: no other sec soft
#200 [00:57] <Hotgreen01_> Elystus: yes on other comps fine even a 32bit winxp comp here
#201 [00:57] <Hotgreen01_> VoxelHead: constant guard is not installed
#202 [00:57] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure the error says "Login Failed", and not "Can't connect to Minecraft.net"?
#203 [00:58] <Hotgreen01_> very sure is says "Login Failed"
#204 [00:58] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Even if the error was cannot connect, we did everything to fix that.
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#206 [00:58] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: Does this shed any light? http://i49.tinypic.com/e6wocz.png
#207 [00:59] <Elystus> there is no html though.
#208 [00:59] <GreyVulpine> I want to say security software then
#209 [00:59] <fred> Why isn't paypal working to purchase this game?
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#211 [00:59] <Silly> Hey looking for help
#212 [01:00] <Silly> Minecraft wont update. itll just stop. Anyone have troubleshooter?
#213 [01:00] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: You made sure that all security processes were stopped in taskmanager correct?
#214 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> fred - If your bank is denying the transaction, paypal will be unable to complete the purchase
#215 [01:00] <Hotgreen01_> yes I did
#216 [01:00] <GreyVulpine> Silly - Happen to Run AVG?
#217 [01:00] <Elystus> Silly: disable your antivirus.
#218 [01:00] <Silly> Hmm... Ill disable it.
#219 [01:00] <fred> I have money in paypal, buy it won't go through
#220 [01:01] <GreyVulpine> fred - What error do you get when you try to purchase minecraft?
#221 [01:01] <fred> "Return to merchant and try a different payment method We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available)."
#222 [01:01] <fred> It seemed like a fairly widespread issue from my research, at least/
#223 [01:02] <Silly> lets hope this works -crosses fingers-
#224 [01:02] <GreyVulpine> Then this'll be something you'll need to take up with Paypal. It's not a widespread issue, has been known to affect certain locations, and people with certain banks that deny international transactions
#225 [01:03] <Hotgreen01_> yet another clue in the process viewer when I click on Minecraft.exe it launches javaw.exe not java.exe does that help?
#226 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> That's fine.
#227 [01:03] <Silly> Why would AVG keep it from updating?
#228 [01:03] <GreyVulpine> Silly - False Positive
#229 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> Silly - Does Minecraft update now?
#230 [01:04] <Silly> Im trying. We'll see
#231 [01:04] <Silly> It gets stuck in random places
#232 [01:04] <GreyVulpine> If you run AVG, disable the linkscanner module.
#233 [01:05] <Silly> Like somtimes itll update to 59% and others itll barely get to 1%
#234 [01:05] <Silly> ok
#235 [01:05] <GreyVulpine> Hotgreen01_ - What happens when you try to run it in-browser at www.minecraft.net/play ?
#236 [01:06] <Hotgreen01_> when my friend tried it it worked
#237 [01:06] <Elystus> It works
#238 [01:06] <Hotgreen01_> he is not here now
#239 [01:06] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: What happens when you run it on yours?>
#240 [01:06] <Elystus> THe one with the problems
#241 [01:06] <Hotgreen01_> I do not have an accout yet
#242 [01:06] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#243 [01:06] <Hotgreen01_> his works in browser but not in launcher
#244 [01:07] <Hotgreen01_> I want to play without browser
#245 [01:07] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: He is deciding whether or not he wants to buy it.
#246 [01:07] <Hotgreen01_> this has been an issue as he plays here ans cannot use the laucher or login outside fo the browser
#247 [01:07] <Hotgreen01_> if I can get this working I will gladly buy a premium account
#248 [01:07] <GreyVulpine> When we say, in-browser, we mean the premium inbrowser client, and not the classic one.
#249 [01:08] <GreyVulpine> The premium inbrowser client works?
#250 [01:08] <Hotgreen01_> I play on xbox and on the mobile for now and they pale in compairison to the PC
#251 [01:08] <Hotgreen01_> yes
#252 [01:09] <GreyVulpine> Only difference(s) from the inbrowser client and the downloaded one, aside from a different java application, is that the downloaded one hits a different login server that uses SSL..
#253 [01:09] <Hotgreen01_> the laucher locks up before you can even put in login info. when you can put your login in for in it just says "login failed"
#254 [01:09] <Elystus> well you didn't provide this information
#255 [01:09] <Silly> shoot minecraft stopped updating. It got stuck again
#256 [01:09] <Hotgreen01_> which info?
#257 [01:10] <Elystus> The fact that it locks up fast
#258 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Silly - Did you disable linkscanner?
#259 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Silly - Go into the launcher and hit Force update again
#260 [01:10] <Hotgreen01_> It was in the first post I made in the fourms
#261 [01:10] <Silly> I did disable it and ok
#262 [01:10] <GreyVulpine> Hotgreen01_ - Could you give us the link to the post again?
#263 [01:10] <Hotgreen01_> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1388516-issues-with-launcher/page__gopid__16902425#entry16902425
#264 [01:11] <Silly> How do I force update it again?
#265 [01:12] <GreyVulpine> Silly - Before logging in, hit the options button above Log In. Then Force update. Log in normally
#266 [01:13] <Silly> ok
#267 [01:13] <GreyVulpine> Hmm.
#268 [01:14] <Silly> Its trying again.
#269 [01:14] <Silly> But stuck at 1%
#270 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Hotgreen01_ - Does this page load for you: http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#271 [01:15] <GreyVulpine> Silly - Has minecraft worked before?
#272 [01:15] <Hotgreen01_> yes
#273 [01:15] <Hotgreen01_> and yes
#274 [01:15] <Hotgreen01_> well not on this machine via the launcher
#275 [01:15] <Silly> Yep, Was told to remove my minecraft.far file to remove my mods. Now it wont update fully.
#276 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Hotgreen01_ - What security software do you run?
#277 [01:16] <Hotgreen01_> Microsoft Security Essentials
#278 [01:16] <GreyVulpine> Hotgreen01_ - Is that it?
#279 [01:16] <Hotgreen01_> yes
#280 [01:16] <Elystus> Hmm i wonder if logging in through the command line would do anything.
#281 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Worth a shot. This seems like a connection issue to me.
#282 [01:17] <Elystus> hot green download the jar
#283 [01:17] <Hotgreen01_> k
#284 [01:17] <Elystus> which is here
#285 [01:17] <Elystus> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#286 [01:17] <GreyVulpine> Silly - You disabled AVG's linkscanner module in AVG's options, right?
#287 [01:18] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: Place that on the desktop and open a command prompt at the desktop's path
#288 [01:19] <Silly> Yes, I disabled it.
#289 [01:19] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: Let me knwo when you have done that
#290 [01:19] <Hotgreen01_> what do you want me to type into the cmd promt
#291 [01:20] <GreyVulpine> Silly - Could you try connecting via the inbrowser client at: www.minecraft.net/play
#292 [01:20] <Elystus> java -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame <username> <password>
#293 [01:20] <Elystus> but the path has to be set to the desktop.
#294 [01:21] <Hotgreen01_> Error could not find or load main class net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#295 [01:21] <Elystus> hotgreen is the jar located on the desktop?
#296 [01:23] <Hotgreen01_> after I fixed a typo it brought the launcher up with the same grey screen and the launcher was locked up
#297 [01:23] <Elystus> Damn...
#298 [01:24] <Hotgreen01_> does Minecraft have a support number?
#299 [01:24] <Hotgreen01_> or any support teams>
#300 [01:24] <Elystus> We are the support :/
#301 [01:24] <Elystus> We do not work for them, but they will direct you to us.
#302 [01:25] <Hotgreen01_> Sounds like a lot of games
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#304 [01:25] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: Do yuo know how much ram is allocated to minecraft on that computer?
#305 [01:26] <Hotgreen01_> I tried running the fix that was posted for making launcher.bat
#306 [01:26] <Hotgreen01_> allocated 1GB and then 2GB
#307 [01:26] <Elystus> Even if there were a connection issue, the launcher should not be locking up.
#308 [01:26] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: allocate 384mb
#309 [01:26] <Hotgreen01_> k
#310 [01:28] <Hotgreen01_> same result
#311 [01:29] <Elystus> Hotgreen01_: I am afraid I have no idea...
#312 [01:29] <Hotgreen01_> I thank you for your help
#313 [01:29] <Hotgreen01_> I have to run for now, but if you can think of anything else please post it in the fourm
#314 [01:31] <Elystus> The Okay :)
#315 [01:31] <Elystus> Ignore the "the" part of that last post.
#316 [01:31] <Hotgreen01_> you got it
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#324 [03:02] <Smanly> Sure is busy
#325 [03:03] <Elystus> It has been really quiet the past few days.
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#328 [03:04] <lachz10> hey:)
#329 [03:04] <Smanly> ;)
#330 [03:05] <Elystus> ;-;
#331 [03:05] <Smanly> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
#332 [03:06] <Elystus> Lol
#333 [03:06] <Elystus> want me to test you?
#334 [03:06] <Elystus> Give you certain problems to fix?
#335 [03:07] <Smanly> Um, wut
#336 [03:07] <Smanly> I guess.
#337 [03:07] <Smanly> Im not an apple genius or anything
#338 [03:07] <Smanly> Plus, im about to go to sleep, I hope. lol
#339 [03:07] <Elystus> I can't download the launcher from the website.
#340 [03:08] <Elystus> What do I do?
#341 [03:08] <Smanly> Step one
#342 [03:08] <Smanly> Download the launcer
#343 [03:08] <Smanly> Done
#344 [03:08] <Elystus> Can't
#345 [03:08] <Smanly> No, you can
#346 [03:08] <Elystus> it says the website doesn't exist or something
#347 [03:08] <Smanly> I belive in you
#348 [03:08] <Smanly> Is your computer turned on?
#349 [03:08] <Elystus> .-. yes lol
#350 [03:09] <Smanly> Hmm
#351 [03:09] <Smanly> You got internets?
#352 [03:09] <Elystus> obviously >_>
#353 [03:09] <Smanly> Have you got an internet browser?
#354 [03:09] <Elystus> yes
#355 [03:10] <Smanly> Ok, go to this link:
#356 [03:10] <Elystus> I use google chrome
#357 [03:10] <Smanly> Minecraftthemovie.com
#358 [03:10] <Smanly> er sorry.
#359 [03:10] <Elystus> Lol
#360 [03:10] <Smanly> Wrong link
#361 [03:10] <Smanly> Oh, I should learn more keyword for voxelhead
#362 [03:10] <Smanly> ??> Elystus Minecraft
#363 [03:10] <Smanly> XD
#364 [03:11] <Elystus> ??>> Smanly index
#365 [03:11] <Smanly> No index for minecraft....
#366 [03:11] <Smanly> Ah
#367 [03:11] <Smanly> That would be too easy
#368 [03:11] <Elystus> This was a tough one, it took me an hour to find out.
#369 [03:11] <Elystus> Simple solution though.
#370 [03:12] <Smanly> ??> Elystus not/downloaded
#371 [03:12] <VoxelHead> Elystus: (not/downloaded) The launcher you download from minecraft.net/download is just that, the launcher. It contains no actual game files, hence why you get "Not downloaded" under Play offline. The launcher only downloads those file upon a successful log in of a premium minecraft account.
#372 [03:12] <Smanly> Oh
#373 [03:12] <Smanly> Thats not right.
#374 [03:13] <Elystus> Disk put this together: http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#375 [03:13] <Elystus> I can tell you that the answer is not in Voxelhead's dataabse
#376 [03:13] <Smanly> Hokay :/
#377 [03:14] <Elystus> What would block me from downloading from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#378 [03:14] <Smanly> Firewall? Your mom?
#379 [03:15] <Elystus> lol
#380 [03:15] <Elystus> I disabled my antivirus and firewall and it still doesn't work
#381 [03:15] <Smanly> Hmm
#382 [03:16] <Smanly> idk, wth
#383 [03:17] <Elystus> Its the hosts file.
#384 [03:17] <Smanly> Oh...
#385 [03:17] <Smanly> How does that even get messed up?
#386 [03:17] <Elystus> it had a line with s3.amazon.com
#387 [03:17] <Elystus> some security software adds stuff to the hosts file.
#388 [03:18] <Smanly> Thats dumb.
#389 [03:18] <Smanly> I dont even remeber where that files is anymore.
#390 [03:19] <Smanly> Only time I need to mess with it was to get around Apples bullshit/
#391 [03:19] <Elystus> C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\
#392 [03:19] <Elystus> Oh are you apple :P
#393 [03:19] <Smanly> Wat
#394 [03:20] <Elystus> i can't see my computer screen
#395 [03:20] * Smanly facepalm
#395 [03:20] <Smanly> Do you require the use of corrective lenses?
#396 [03:21] <Elystus> Mayb
#397 [03:21] <Elystus> Do I have to have power?
#398 [03:21] <Elystus> >_>
#399 [03:21] <Smanly> To your person?
#400 [03:21] <Smanly> I hope not.
#401 [03:22] <Elystus> pwoer to the people?
#402 [03:22] <Smanly> lawl
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#404 [03:25] <ShadowFaxXL> hi I was wondering about the 1.3 release
#405 [03:25] <Smanly> What about it?
#406 [03:26] <Elystus> The planned release date is August 1.
#407 [03:26] <ShadowFaxXL> well you know the way its going to be merged with mp - I was wondering if this was just for LAN or is it for internet as well
#408 [03:26] <Smanly> Yap.
#409 [03:26] <ShadowFaxXL> its just for lan then?
#410 [03:27] <Smanly> What?
#411 [03:27] <Smanly> No.
#412 [03:27] <ShadowFaxXL> oh thanks
#413 [03:28] <Smanly> Its more like single player is now mulitplayers
#414 [03:28] <Smanly> You are basicly running a server for yourself.
#415 [03:29] <ShadowFaxXL> ah
#416 [03:29] <ShadowFaxXL> I understand now
#417 [03:30] <Smanly> Yep
#418 [03:30] <ShadowFaxXL> you know the mojang avatars that are used on twitter?
#419 [03:30] <Smanly> Nope
#420 [03:30] <Smanly> Oh, the cartoons of the people?
#421 [03:30] <ShadowFaxXL> yes
#422 [03:30] <Smanly> What about them?
#423 [03:31] <ShadowFaxXL> does junkboy do them?
#424 [03:31] <Smanly> No idea
#425 [03:31] <ShadowFaxXL> oh
#426 [03:33] <ShadowFaxXL> I did one of the avatars myself for my youtube channel
#427 [03:33] <Smanly> Nice
#428 [03:34] <ShadowFaxXL> http://www.youtube.com/user/PixelParks
#429 [03:34] <ShadowFaxXL> dont worry Im not asking for subs
#430 [03:36] <Smanly> yeah... thats not really the same. XD
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#434 [03:56] <Jung> Hello
#435 [03:57] <Andrio> Hi
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#437 [03:57] <Jung> I have an issue with minecreaft. Could you help?
#438 [03:58] <Andrio> What's your issue?
#439 [03:59] <Jung> I have downloaded it, but it does not work. The problem is related to display. I updated video card driver, but it still does not work.
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#442 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> Just m
#443 [04:14] <GreyVulpine> Doah
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#446 [04:24] <XxCastilloxX> hello?
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#450 [04:32] <Grantman> anyone home?
#451 [04:33] <Grantman> I could use some help
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#456 [04:48] <EntombedToast> Hello?
#457 [04:49] <Spoogle_97> Hello. When I started Minecraft this morning, I saw the Message "Updating Minecraft Done loading" But the green loading bar didn't grow the last 10 or 5 percent.
#458 [04:50] <Helloman892> Spoogle_97: Try disabling your anti-virus.
#459 [04:50] <Helloman892> *and firewall
#460 [04:50] <Spoogle_97> I'll try.
#461 [04:52] <Spoogle_97> My firewall would have given me a message, if it should block something.
#462 [04:53] <Helloman892> Yes, but it may have blocked it without telling you. They do that sometimes.
#463 [04:54] <Helloman892> EntombedToast: What's up?
#464 [04:54] <Spoogle_97> OK, now MC is blackscreening.
#465 [04:55] <Spoogle_97> * After I disabled Firewall.
#466 [04:55] <Helloman892> So, this is me assuming you have the game downloaded already...?
#467 [04:55] <Spoogle_97> Yes
#468 [04:55] <Helloman892> As in, not just the launcher.
#469 [04:56] <Spoogle_97> I've already played it and it worked without problems.
#470 [04:56] <Helloman892> Because, the anti-virus and firewall will do nothing with the game, lol. Re-enable them XD
#471 [04:58] <Spoogle_97> OK, re-enabled, but now, MC gives me the same message, then it's blackscreening.
#472 [04:58] <Helloman892> Hmmm...
#473 [04:58] <Helloman892> Mods installed?
#474 [04:58] <Helloman892> Texture packs?
#475 [04:58] <Spoogle_97> Yes
#476 [04:58] <Helloman892> ??> Spoogle_97 mods
#477 [04:58] <VoxelHead> Spoogle_97: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#478 [04:58] <VoxelHead> Spoogle_97: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#479 [04:59] <Helloman892> Basically, any problems that are induced by modifications can not be solved by us, unless the mod-maker or similar is online here.
#480 [05:00] <Spoogle_97> But he problems aren't caused by the mods, I think.
#481 [05:00] <Helloman892> What mods do you have installed? Because I can help you there, as I have a hell of alot.
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#483 [05:03] <Spoogle_97> My mods: Elemental Arrows; Audio Mod; Biosphere Mod; MC Forge; Reis's Minimap; ModLoader; ModLoader MP; Power Craft; Spawner GUI; Zeppelin Mod.
#484 [05:03] <Necrodoom> mods will cause MC to blackscreen if they are installed icorrectly
#485 [05:03] <Necrodoom> incorrectly*
#486 [05:03] <Helloman892> Try getting a fresh minecraft.jar.
#487 [05:04] <Helloman892> Necrodoom: Read the above conversation XD
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#489 [05:06] <Spoogle_97> I installed them in a correct order. But I think I'll take out Biosphere. it doesn't work. But it didn't make problems.
#490 [05:07] <Helloman892> As I said, try again with a fresh minecraft.jar.
#491 [05:09] <Spoogle_97> I don't know how to do this.
#492 [05:10] <Helloman892> Rename your current minecraft.jar, then redownload the game through the launcher
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#496 [05:16] <Spoogle_97> I'm back at the start.
#497 [05:16] <Helloman892> So, you can play vanilla now?
#498 [05:16] <psychodrama> Uh Im not sure how an irc chat works but i just had a quick question i was hoping someone could help with
#499 [05:17] <Helloman892> psychodrama: Hmm?
#500 [05:17] <psychodrama> well i have had the premium version of minecraft for a while now (over a year and a half) but recently when im playing if i hold a left or right mouse click the game goes into the pause menu and i cant figure out how to get it to stop
#501 [05:18] <Helloman892> Hmm... I've heard of this bug, but it's never happened to me...
#502 [05:18] <Helloman892> Try reloading it.
#503 [05:18] <Helloman892> If that doesn't work, try changing your mouse.
#504 [05:18] <psychodrama> ive reloaded the game, ive removed all files and redownloaded them and ive forced updates and updated my java
#505 [05:19] <Helloman892> Ok.
#506 [05:19] <Helloman892> Wait... updated your Java?
#507 [05:19] <Helloman892> To what version?
#508 [05:19] <psychodrama> my laptop mouse, my mouse and my gfs computer all do the same thing but only on my account
#509 [05:19] <Helloman892> Hmmm...
#510 [05:19] <Helloman892> Java 7u5, correct?
#511 [05:19] <psychodrama> let me check
#512 [05:19] <psychodrama> yeah
#513 [05:19] <psychodrama> is that the issue?
#514 [05:20] <Helloman892> It might be.
#515 [05:20] <Helloman892> ??< java/1.7
#516 [05:20] <psychodrama> so what do i downgrade or just wait til 1.3?
#517 [05:20] <Helloman892> Did you update your Java, then the issues started?
#518 [05:20] <Spoogle_97> I renamed the minecraft.jar ,re-downloaded MC but there isn't the minecraft.jar. Should I rename it back and delete the mod files?
#519 [05:20] <Helloman892> Spoogle_97: Try pressing F5 in .minecraft\bin.
#520 [05:21] <psychodrama> it started acting glitchy right before the update but it got much worse after
#521 [05:21] <psychodrama> it was locking jump and wasd
#522 [05:21] <Helloman892> Ok, first of all downgrade your Java.
#523 [05:21] <psychodrama> alright
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#525 [05:21] <Helloman892> ??< error/textspecificlc
#526 [05:22] <Helloman892> ??< error/textspecificlcd
#527 [05:22] <Spoogle_97> f5 doesn't work.
#528 [05:22] <Helloman892> F5 is to reload.
#529 [05:22] <psychodrama> alright im going to go downgrade and plus in a different mouse. thanks for the help
#530 [05:22] <Helloman892> Spoogle_97: Is the game open?
#531 [05:23] <Spoogle_97> No.
#532 [05:23] <Helloman892> Try opening the launcher and logging in.
#533 [05:24] <Spoogle_97> I'm back at the start. I see the same message the discussion started with.
#534 [05:24] <Helloman892> So wait, you have an error message?
#535 [05:25] <Spoogle_97> * after login
#536 [05:25] <Helloman892> Oh, right.
#537 [05:25] <Helloman892> Not 'updating'.
#538 [05:26] <Spoogle_97> No, it's the same style like when downloading, seems like MC is unpdating.
#539 [05:26] <Spoogle_97> *updating
#540 [05:26] <Helloman892> It's not.
#541 [05:26] <Helloman892> The latest version is 1.2.5
#542 [05:28] <Spoogle_97> I have, but I see: "Updating Minecraft" in the first row. In the second row, there is: "Done loading" and under this, there is that green bar.
#543 [05:28] <Spoogle_97> The green loading bar of MC.
#544 [05:28] <Helloman892> Try deleting ALL the minecraft files.
#545 [05:28] <Spoogle_97> OK
#546 [05:29] <Spoogle_97> I'm now deleting the .minecraft folder.
#547 [05:29] <Helloman892> DONT
#548 [05:29] <Helloman892> You'll lose all your saves.
#549 [05:29] <Spoogle_97> what then?
#550 [05:29] <Helloman892> I meant all the bin files.
#551 [05:30] <Spoogle_97> OK.
#552 [05:30] <Helloman892> Like: minecraft.jar, but not your modded one.
#553 [05:32] <Spoogle_97> OK, so now I should delete the whole content of the bin folder, except the modded minecraft.jar?
#554 [05:32] <Helloman892> Yes.
#555 [05:32] <Spoogle_97> OK
#556 [05:32] <Helloman892> Then completely redownload the game.
#557 [05:32] <Helloman892> And maybe try redownloading the launcher, too.
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#559 [05:34] <Spoogle_97> Thank you so much. It worked.
#560 [05:34] <Helloman892> No problem.
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#562 [05:48] <temp5u> hey can anyone hep me?
#563 [05:48] <temp5u> help*
#564 [05:48] <Helloman892> Yes?
#565 [05:48] <temp5u> well i changed my password yesterday it worked fine
#566 [05:48] <Helloman892> Ok.
#567 [05:48] <temp5u> but today when i try to log into mincraft i cant =/
#568 [05:48] <Helloman892> Does it give you an error message?
#569 [05:48] <temp5u> umm no
#570 [05:49] <temp5u> it says incorrect password
#571 [05:49] <Helloman892> Use your old password then.
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#573 [05:49] <temp5u> hmm ima try
#574 [05:49] <Helloman892> Or go to: www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#575 [05:50] <temp5u> okh
#576 [05:50] <Yoda_is_short> I just moved to another house, and neither of my computers will let me log into minecraft. I've looked and looked, but I haven't found any ideas on how to help... Any suggestions?
#577 [05:50] <Helloman892> Yoda_is_short: Is there an external anti-virus?
#578 [05:50] <Helloman892> firewall
#579 [05:51] <Yoda_is_short> Sorry, I'm not a computer expert. I have ZoneAlarm, and I think that's it
#580 [05:51] <Yoda_is_short> if that's an external anti-virus
#581 [05:51] <Helloman892> No, I failed.
#582 [05:51] <Helloman892> Sorry, I meant does the network have a firewall?
#583 [05:53] <Helloman892> Yoda_is_short: So, you moved to a new house. Is the computer new?
#584 [05:53] <Yoda_is_short> No, I don't think so. The computer I'm on hasn't let me on for a couple months, even before we moved. My mom's computer would let me log in, but when we moved here, it wouldn't let me log in anymore.
#585 [05:53] <Helloman892> Did you update your Java?
#586 [05:53] <Yoda_is_short> I bought it in November
#587 [05:53] <Yoda_is_short> I tried. I don't think it worked though
#588 [05:54] <Helloman892> Ok.
#589 [05:54] <Yoda_is_short> it said it finished,
#590 [05:54] <Yoda_is_short> but I don't think it worked
#591 [05:54] <Helloman892> Java 7u5 is a bit buggy.
#592 [05:54] <temp5u> ah ty.
#593 [05:54] <Yoda_is_short> I was going to try and delete java and redownload it, but I can't. I'm not an admin on my computer... My dad said it probably won't work
#594 [05:55] <Yoda_is_short> Do you think it'd work?
#595 [05:55] <Calinou> java 6 all the way :p
#596 [05:55] <Helloman892> Yoda_is_short: You need admin rights to play the game, I believe.
#597 [05:55] <Yoda_is_short> nope
#598 [05:55] <Helloman892> Indeed, calinou.
#599 [05:55] <Helloman892> Calinou*
#600 [05:56] <Yoda_is_short> I've been playing without it until pretty recently
#601 [05:56] <Helloman892> Yoda_is_short: Without Java!?
#602 [05:56] <Helloman892> It's a Java game...
#603 [05:56] <Yoda_is_short> no, I have java, I don't think it's updated though
#604 [05:56] <Helloman892> What version?
#605 [05:56] <Yoda_is_short> uh, lemme check
#606 [05:58] <Yoda_is_short> it says I have 4 javas.... and brb for a min
#607 [05:58] <Helloman892> Waitwhat?
#608 [05:58] <Helloman892> Calinou: Ever heard of this before?
#609 [05:58] <Helloman892> 4 Java installations...?
#610 [05:58] <Calinou> uninstall all java versions, install latest java 6, 64bit on a 64 bit computer, 32bit on a 32 bit computer
#611 [05:59] <Calinou> ^ what I suggest for people with x javas :p
#612 [05:59] <Helloman892> Indeed.
#613 [05:59] <Helloman892> Ok.
#614 [05:59] <Yoda_is_short> back
#615 [05:59] <Yoda_is_short> kk
#616 [06:00] <Yoda_is_short> I'll try that, but I have to wait for my dad to get back so he can put in the password
#617 [06:00] <Yoda_is_short> ty though =)
#618 [06:00] <Helloman892> Ok
#619 [06:01] <Yoda_is_short> hmm.. I'm using CCleaner, and pressing unistall and it doesn't do anything. It doesn't even put up the pop-up password thing...
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#621 [06:01] <Helloman892> CCleaner?
#622 [06:02] <Yoda_is_short> crap cleaner?
#623 [06:02] <Helloman892> Ah.
#624 [06:02] <Helloman892> Lol
#625 [06:02] <Yoda_is_short> I thought most people knew about it, but I guess not
#626 [06:02] <LACHIES02> hi i cant get the game to work on my windows xp
#627 [06:02] <LACHIES02> im sooooooooooooooooo not good with this stuff
#628 [06:02] <Helloman892> ??> LACHIES02 telepathy
#629 [06:02] <VoxelHead> LACHIES02: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#630 [06:03] <LACHIES02> ok sorry here let me try
#631 [06:03] <LACHIES02> i updated java, ect
#632 [06:04] <LACHIES02> but it says bad video card drivers!
#633 [06:04] <Helloman892> Update your video card drivers.
#634 [06:06] <LACHIES02> how :?
#635 [06:06] <Helloman892> ...
#636 [06:06] <Helloman892> Google?
#637 [06:06] <LACHIES02> sorry im a minecraft virgin
#638 [06:06] <LACHIES02> ok computer virgin lol
#639 [06:06] <LACHIES02> tough customer.....
#640 [06:06] <LACHIES02> ? lol
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#642 [06:07] <kernan> HELP PLZ MINECRAFT ON WINDOWS 8 DOES NOT WORK
#643 [06:08] <kernan> ANY HELP FOR THAT
#644 [06:08] <Helloman892> ?? caps
#645 [06:08] <Helloman892> LOLfail.
#646 [06:08] <Helloman892> Anyways, please don't use all caps.
#647 [06:08] <LACHIES02> k how do i get an updated video card driver?
#648 [06:08] <LACHIES02> sorry
#649 [06:08] <Helloman892> Google it.
#650 [06:08] <LACHIES02> but i did :''''''''
#651 [06:09] <Helloman892> kernan: What _exactly_ is your problem?
#652 [06:09] <Yoda_is_short> Google "how to get an updated video card driver"
#653 [06:09] <LACHIES02> lol i dont know hoowwwwwwwwww
#654 [06:09] <Helloman892> Stop repeating letters T_T
#655 [06:09] <kernan> mine craft says bad video graphics card driver i have updated and it still doesnt work
#656 [06:10] <Helloman892> kernan: What graphics card do you have?
#657 [06:10] <LACHIES02> how do i check that?
#658 [06:10] <Helloman892> LACHIES02: I wasn't talking to you.
#659 [06:10] <kernan> intel
#660 [06:11] <Helloman892> Oh, and LACHIES02?
#661 [06:11] <LACHIES02> Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. Bad video card driver! ughhhhhh im sooooooo frustrated ugh
#662 [06:11] <Helloman892> ?? dont/repeat
#663 [06:11] <VoxelHead> dont/repeat: There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. Messages do not 'expire' and unless there is a lot of conversation, your message is not going anywhere.
#664 [06:11] <LACHIES02> ya?
#665 [06:11] <VoxelHead> dont/repeat: Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
#666 [06:11] <LACHIES02> k
#667 [06:11] <Helloman892> Anyways...
#668 [06:12] <Helloman892> ??< haspaid
#669 [06:12] <LACHIES02> mmm hmmmm
#670 [06:12] <LACHIES02> paid.
#671 [06:13] <kernan> helloman892: i have a mobile intel (R) 945 Express chipset family (Microsoft corporation - WDDM 1.0
#672 [06:13] <Helloman892> Is it integrated?
#673 [06:13] <kernan> doesnt say
#674 [06:13] <Helloman892> Most probably is. And Minecraft doesn't play well with integrated graphics cards.
#675 [06:14] <kernan> it worked before when i had windows 7
#676 [06:14] <Helloman892> Unfortunately, Windows 8 is not my area of expertise.
#677 [06:15] <kernan> its windows 8 custmer preview
#678 [06:15] <LACHIES02> k i think a light bulb just came on in my head,
#679 [06:15] <LACHIES02> think i gots it figured out. thanks for listening to me rant. lol
#680 [06:15] <Yoda_is_short> One of the Javas I have is called JavaFX 2.1.1
#681 [06:15] <Helloman892> As I said, I don't know anything about Win8.
#682 [06:15] <Yoda_is_short> is that a regular java? because the others aren't like that at all
#683 [06:15] <kernan> ok thanks any way
#684 [06:15] <kernan> ok thanks any way
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#687 [06:26] <Helloman892> Yoda_is_short: Yeah, that's regular.
#688 [06:28] <Yoda_is_short> kk, ty
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#714 [09:40] <Isabellatho> Hello?
#715 [09:40] <tyteen4a03> hi
#716 [09:41] <Isabellatho> What is this place for
#717 [09:41] <tyteen4a03> Isabellatho: Minecraft help
#718 [09:41] <Isabellatho> Ok good
#719 [09:41] <Isabellatho> Ok good
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#721 [09:42] <Isabellatho> Are you there
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#723 [09:43] <Isabellatho> Is anyone there
#724 [09:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> Isabellatho ask
#725 [09:43] <VoxelHead> Isabellatho: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#726 [09:43] <VoxelHead> Isabellatho: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#727 [09:44] <Isabellatho> Ok my mincraft game I bought is so glitchy and slow
#728 [09:44] <rymate1234> and?
#729 [09:44] <tyteen4a03> Isabellatho: just slow in general?
#730 [09:44] <tyteen4a03> rymate1234: long time no see
#731 [09:44] <Necrodoom> Isabellatho: what are the specs of your computer?
#732 [09:45] <rymate1234> I lurk a lot ;)
#733 [09:45] <Necrodoom> Isabellatho: minecraft is quite heavy
#734 [09:45] <rymate1234> it might look simple
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#736 [09:45] <Isabellatho> Sometimes it dosent work correctly
#737 [09:45] <rymate1234> Isabellatho, please expand on that
#738 [09:45] <Guest_> does anyone know how to solve the problem of minecraft crashing after login?
#739 [09:46] <rymate1234> in what way doesn't it work correctly Isabellatho
#740 [09:46] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: Is there an error report?\
#741 [09:46] <Guest_> yes
#742 [09:46] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: Please paste the error report on pastebin.com
#743 [09:46] <Guest_> okay gimmy a min
#744 [09:47] <rymate1234> and then give uus the link to the page you get when you sbmit it
#745 [09:47] <rymate1234> *submit
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#747 [09:48] <Isabellatho> Good bye I think this chat would work better on my computer
#748 [09:49] <Guest_> heres the error report: http://pastebin.com/mrt8rYMj
#749 [09:49] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: you need to update your drivers
#750 [09:49] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest_ gpu/amd
#751 [09:49] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#752 [09:50] <Guest_> my graphics card is intel and i cant find the drivers anywhere
#753 [09:50] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: Accroding to the crash report, your card is an AMD (formerly ATI) card
#754 [09:50] <Guest_> oh?
#755 [09:51] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: you may have Intel Integrated GPU built in, but the computer is instructed to use the AMD card (of which it should)
#756 [09:51] <Guest_> oh i see
#757 [09:51] <rymate1234> how the hell did you work that out tyteen4a03 o.o
#758 [09:51] <tyteen4a03> rymate1234: aticfx32.dll+0x25861
#759 [09:51] <rymate1234> ah
#760 [09:51] <Guest_> very clever
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#762 [09:54] <Guest_> i downloaded amd auto detect and install and it couldnt find product
#763 [09:55] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest_ win/dxdiag/bat
#764 [09:55] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#765 [09:55] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#766 [09:55] <tyteen4a03> follow the instructions and I can find it for you
#767 [09:55] <tyteen4a03> (if you'd rather find it out yourself, the information is in the Display section)
#768 [09:56] <Guest_> okay 1 second
#769 [09:57] <Guest_> http://pastebin.com/NWSnLqag
#770 [09:58] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: Now I am confused... hang on
#771 [09:58] <Guest_> okay :P
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#773 [09:59] <Casey> Anyone there?
#774 [09:59] <tyteen4a03> hi
#775 [10:00] <Casey> Why will it not accept my debit card info? I'm trying to purcase the game but it isn't allowing me to :/
#776 [10:00] <Casey> Purchase*
#777 [10:00] <Morrolan> Chances are it's blocked since it's an international transfer.
#778 [10:00] <Morrolan> Might want to call the credit card provider and ask them whether the payment goes through.
#779 [10:00] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: Uninstall any AMD/ATI drivers from Add/Remove Drivers
#780 [10:01] <Casey> why would i uninstall them?
#781 [10:01] <Guest_> hes talking to me
#782 [10:01] <Morrolan> Are you called "Guest"?
#783 [10:01] <Casey> wow sry
#784 [10:01] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Argh, Toshiba C660 <.<
#785 [10:02] <Morrolan> ?? c660
#786 [10:02] <VoxelHead> c660: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#787 [10:02] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: Oh, that's why the factoid is there
#788 [10:02] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: ^ follow the instructions
#789 [10:02] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine will be happy, I'm sure he hasn't seen enough C660s lately. :D
#790 [10:03] <Guest_> so remove them drivers and download the one on the link?
#791 [10:03] <Morrolan> Would be worth a shot, yes.
#792 [10:04] <Guest_> where do i go to remove drivers
#793 [10:05] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: Add/remove programs
#794 [10:05] <Guest_> intel hd graphics driver is there no amd/ati
#795 [10:06] <Guest_> hold on
#796 [10:06] <Guest_> i found ATI
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#798 [10:06] <Guest_> theres two ati driver shall i remove them?
#799 [10:06] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: uninstall those, yes
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#801 [10:07] <Guest_> so, remove both the ATI and the Intel HD?
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#803 [10:07] <tyteen4a03> Guest_: just remove ATI ones
#804 [10:07] <Guest_> OKAY
#805 [10:07] <Guest_> oops
#806 [10:08] <Guest_> okay done now i download that other driver form the link
#807 [10:08] <Guest_> from*
#808 [10:08] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Oh, regarding an ATI driver being on that system, quoting the thread I linked: "It's Toshiba's software engineers being dumbasses and thinking "Hey, we use AMD chipsets all the time, so we'll slipstream the drivers into our OS install images no matter what! What could possibly go wrong?""
#809 [10:09] <rymate1234> everything
#810 [10:09] <Guest_> haha
#811 [10:10] <ElgoMight> hi, is it possible to ask a few ingame questions?
#812 [10:10] <tyteen4a03> ElgoMight: go on
#813 [10:11] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I fail to come up with a witty response
#814 [10:11] <ElgoMight> I would like to know how to turn on not enough items in Singe Player to allso only see the recepies
#815 [10:11] <Morrolan> ElgoMight - Phew, isn't there anything in the mod's forum thread?
#816 [10:11] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Heh, if you think of one in an hour or two, let me now. :D
#817 [10:12] <ElgoMight> i will check it again :) just in case
#818 [10:13] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I want to go with shipping Linux along Windows but I don't think that's a good one
#819 [10:13] <Morrolan> I'm not terribly familiar with mods, and so are most regulars in here, so chances of getting a response in here are rather slim, ElgoMight. But maybe you'll be lucky. :)
#820 [10:13] <Guest_> Guys i have installed new drivers and i need to restart ill come back and let you know how i get in in a minute
#821 [10:13] <Morrolan> Generally speaking a mod's thread is the best source of information though.
#822 [10:13] <Morrolan> Guest_ - Sure, we'll be here.
#823 [10:13] <Guest_> =]
#824 [10:18] <ElgoMight> i think im too dumb to find what i need :/, any other ideas how to find all the repies this server modpacks have to offer? Im not yep acepted, and im trying things out in single player atm :)
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#828 [10:24] <Guest_> hey guys
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#830 [10:24] <MaoFame> Hey there.. where can i download Minecraft Forge 3.3.8.152? :s
#831 [10:25] <lutzee> http://lexmanos.no-ip.org:8080/job/Forge/lastBuild/
#832 [10:25] <Guest_> are the poeple that helped me still here?
#833 [10:25] <MaoFame> ty
#834 [10:26] <Guest_> tyteen
#835 [10:27] <Guest_> ok well im the guy that needed to update driver and you guys have made it work Thank you very much!!!!
#836 [10:27] <Guest_> Really happy thanks so much!
#837 [10:27] <Guest_> Really happy thanks so much!
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#848 [11:07] <LilLucy> \o/
#849 [11:07] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: :D
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#856 [11:23] <Xingata> hello
#857 [11:24] <Xingata> anyone here who can help me figure out my password i have forgoten it and my email i used to register got deleted
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#859 [11:25] <Necrodoom> tried every birthday and phone number you remember?
#860 [11:25] <Xingata> just about
#861 [11:25] <Necrodoom> tried to search your desk for password notes?
#862 [11:26] <Xingata> yup i have to keep room very clean or else ya kno
#863 [11:26] <Xingata> i emailed mojang direct but i dont kno how long it will take
#864 [11:28] <Necrodoom> around 2 months, i think
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#871 [11:53] <rocketsoul> hi
#872 [11:54] <rocketsoul> i need help
#873 [11:54] <rocketsoul> i need assitance
#874 [11:54] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: yes?
#875 [11:54] <rocketsoul> i cant seem to play the gay
#876 [11:54] <rocketsoul> game
#877 [11:54] <rocketsoul> *
#878 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: What happens when you launch it?
#879 [11:55] <rocketsoul> well i play on three computer
#880 [11:55] <rocketsoul> my first one is broke
#881 [11:55] <rocketsoul> my second is at my second home
#882 [11:55] <rocketsoul> and im using this one
#883 [11:55] <rocketsoul> i tryed to down load it
#884 [11:56] <rocketsoul> but when i get to the minecraft launcher it freezes
#885 [11:56] <rocketsoul> and wont let me sign it
#886 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: Are there any error messages?
#887 [11:56] <rocketsoul> no
#888 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> ??> rocketsoul win/dxdiag/bat
#889 [11:56] <VoxelHead> rocketsoul: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#890 [11:56] <VoxelHead> rocketsoul: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#891 [11:56] <tyteen4a03> Please follow the instructions
#892 [11:57] <rocketsoul> i put my mouse over login sign and it doesnt do anything except light up
#893 [11:57] <rocketsoul> ok
#894 [12:00] <rocketsoul> i copied it now wat
#895 [12:00] <rocketsoul> what*
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#897 [12:01] <rocketsoul> i copied it
#898 [12:01] <rocketsoul> now what do i do?
#899 [12:02] <Morrolan> Start by reading the full instructions VoxelHead provided you with.
#900 [12:02] <Morrolan> Especially the "copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us." is important.
#901 [12:03] <rocketsoul> http://pastebin.com/a6aVtmDG
#902 [12:03] <rocketsoul> is that what u need
#903 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> Yes
#904 [12:04] <rocketsoul> ok so whats happening now>
#905 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: I am sorry, but the computer you use does not support Minecraft
#906 [12:05] <rocketsoul> i have a windows computer
#907 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: The hardware are too old to power minecraft
#908 [12:05] <rocketsoul> hp pro book
#909 [12:05] <rocketsoul> so how can i uprade it?
#910 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: By buying a new computer
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#912 [12:06] <bttr76> Hello,I need help with an issue
#913 [12:06] <rocketsoul> i mean my software cant i upgrade my software? i cant afford a new computer
#914 [12:06] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Yes?
#915 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: You can try upgrading the driver, but it wouldn't help much
#916 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> an alternative solution is to play Minecraft through minecraft.net
#917 [12:07] <bttr76> Ok,so,you know how the textures to any of the blocks usually stay on the block?
#918 [12:07] <rocketsoul> ive tryed
#919 [12:07] <rocketsoul> what do u mean
#920 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: playing Minecraft through this link: http://minecraft.net/play
#921 [12:08] <rocketsoul> it says security warnign
#922 [12:08] <bttr76> If you look at a block,it usually looks like it would,how ever when i play the texture stretches out the longer I play
#923 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: Press Ignore/Allow
#924 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Are you using a custom texture pack?
#925 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> and/or mods?
#926 [12:09] <bttr76> no
#927 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: How often does this happen? Does it happen on specific blocks?
#928 [12:10] <bttr76> since the 1.2.5 update,ive been able to see through the blocks into mineshafts,and what not,and it happens at random times
#929 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Does it look something like this? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/javaw2012031917553335.png/
#930 [12:11] <bttr76> yes! i need help with that
#931 [12:11] <rocketsoul> it freezes up. and says publisher unknow
#932 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: Tick Always Trust This Publisher In The Future, then click Allow
#933 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: It's an known bug
#934 [12:11] <rocketsoul> but it freeze with the java symbol in the back ground
#935 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Let me find a solution
#936 [12:11] <rocketsoul> ok
#937 [12:11] <bttr76> tyteen4a03:ok
#938 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> ??> rocketsoul only/you
#939 [12:12] <VoxelHead> rocketsoul: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#940 [12:12] <VoxelHead> rocketsoul: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
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#942 [12:12] <rocketsoul> ok sorry
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#944 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> bttr76 win/dxdiag/bat
#945 [12:13] <VoxelHead> bttr76: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#946 [12:13] <VoxelHead> bttr76: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#947 [12:13] <SacerAnd> Alguém sabe porque a tela do minecraft fica azul?
#948 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> SacerAnd: English please
#949 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Please give us more information of your computer by following the instructions posted by VoxelHead
#950 [12:14] <SacerAnd> Because the screen turns blue minecraft?
#951 [12:14] <rocketsoul> i finally got it to go
#952 [12:14] <rocketsoul> but then it said connection faile
#953 [12:14] <bttr76> ok
#954 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> SacerAnd: Are you seeing a blue screen with an error message?
#955 [12:15] <SacerAnd> Here there appears MOJANG and then a blue screen with a scroll bar next to
#956 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#957 [12:15] <SacerAnd> No
#958 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> SacerAnd: Copy the error message inside the text area, and paste them on pastebin.com
#959 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> ??> SacerAnd pastebin
#960 [12:15] <VoxelHead> SacerAnd: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#961 [12:16] <rocketsoul> is there a way i can get an older version of minecraft that will support my computer
#962 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: No
#963 [12:17] <bttr76> ok its done
#964 [12:17] <rocketsoul> why not?
#965 [12:17] <bttr76> http://pastebin.com/QgFK7VLv
#966 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> rocketsoul: Firstly, Minecraft does not provide downloads for older versions. Secondly, Minecraft has never supported your hardware (they will never work)
#967 [12:18] <SacerAnd> I enter the Minecraf, I put my name there but when I click enter and then turns black a blue screen with a scrollbar
#968 [12:18] <bttr76> it means something has failed to install
#969 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Alienware with a 1.83GHz CPU... how old is your computer?
#970 [12:19] <SacerAnd> http://pastebin.com/index.php?e=2
#971 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> anybody speak portuguese around here?
#972 [12:20] <SacerAnd> Eu.
#973 [12:20] <SacerAnd> I
#974 [12:20] <bttr76> tyteen4a03 i dont know,how do i check?
#975 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: When did you buy the computer?
#976 [12:21] <SacerAnd> <tyteen4a03> You speak Portuguese?
#977 [12:21] <bttr76> tyteen4a03 i didnt,it was given to me as a present,my dad fixes computers,and this was one that some one forgot about and never came back to get
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#979 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: When did you get this computer then?
#980 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> SacerAnd: I don't
#981 [12:22] <rocketsoul> about 3 years ago
#982 [12:22] <bttr76> march 3rd,2012
#983 [12:22] <rocketsoul> sorry
#984 [12:22] <rocketsoul> my bad
#985 [12:22] <bttr76> its fine
#986 [12:22] <rocketsoul> um so how can i upgrade my computer than
#987 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Tell you dad to upgrade the drivers and clean the dusts in the fan
#988 [12:24] <bttr76> Ive already done both >.<
#989 [12:24] <rocketsoul> what are the drivers
#990 [12:24] <rocketsoul> damn srry wrong person again my bad
#991 [12:24] <bttr76> its fine
#992 [12:24] <rocketsoul> fuck this
#993 [12:24] <rocketsoul> excuse my language
#994 [12:25] <bttr76> you've been excused
#995 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Except these, I don't think I have any idea (the laptop is sold in 2006, you're very lucky it's alienware)
#996 [12:26] <bttr76> awsome c:
#997 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Try turning off Advanced OpenGL though
#998 [12:26] <bttr76> I'll do that now,be right back
#999 [12:27] <bttr76> its already off
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#1001 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: make sure Display is set to Fast, and maybe turn down the render distance, it will probably reduce the chance of seeing that
#1002 [12:29] <bttr76> the render distance has been on short,and i set the display to fast a while back
#1003 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> yeah, I think these are only the things you can do
#1004 [12:30] <tyteen4a03> you're still very lucky that it's alienware
#1005 [12:30] <bttr76> i heard that dell bought them out a while back so i am
#1006 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: Now the CEO of Alienware is at Origin
#1007 [12:31] <bttr76> although i am thinking about saving up to get one of the desktop ones they're selling now and using that,and then using this one on the go
#1008 [12:31] <bttr76> oh thats cool :3
#1009 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: The alienware computers Dell sells are now as expensive, and has less customization options
#1010 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> jump to Origin for the original alienware
#1011 [12:33] <bttr76> may i have a link
#1012 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: http://www.originpc.com
#1013 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> they're still expensive as hell though
#1014 [12:37] <bttr76> yeah,but they look pretty awsome
#1015 [12:38] <bttr76> -cutsomizes a laptop and saves it-
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#1018 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: I know :P I wish I could afford one, but there are no installment plans here
#1019 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: if I do afford one though, my laptop computer would be even more powerful than my desktop one
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#1021 [12:42] <bttr76> tyteen4a03 actually theres tons of things that you can do that people would gladly pay you to do because they're to lazy them selves,for me time has no reflectance on how much i can earn,so given that logic,i could earn enough,and trust me it'll be worth it,just contacted my buddy who has one,he has no problems with anything
#1022 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: They are _very_ durable and is very good at performance, yes
#1023 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> I might consider having one of these as my main computer and put my current desktop for server renting
#1024 [12:46] <bttr76> tyteen4a03 we should both do that,although,I will have 2 laptops if i do get this >.<
#1025 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: and I will be broke
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#1027 [12:49] <bttr76> well,if you think about it,if you work,you can use that for other things,and then spend other time doing things to raise money for the laptop/desktop you want
#1028 [12:49] <weini_afk> Hi :)
#1029 [12:49] <bttr76> hello
#1030 [12:50] <weini> little question, the seeds have 4 stadiums, what is the id from the last stadium?
#1031 [12:50] <weini> *stadion
#1032 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> bttr76: except I don't have a salady
#1033 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> *salary
#1034 [12:51] <weini> there you see it what i want: http://de.minecraftwiki.net/images/4/44/Wheat.gif
#1035 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> weini: I think they share the same data id 295
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#1037 [12:52] <weini> nope there are other ones
#1038 [12:52] <weini> becouse with the mod computercraft u can craft turtels, and they wont pick up them with the id 295
#1039 [12:53] <weini> *because
#1040 [12:53] <tyteen4a03> According to Minecraft Wiki, there are only 1 data value for Wheat Seeds
#1041 [12:53] <tyteen4a03> *there is
#1042 [12:54] <Necrodoom> no it doesnt
#1043 [12:54] <Calinou> robi99, don't private message randomly
#1044 [12:54] <Necrodoom> it says theres 8
#1045 [12:54] <Calinou> also, this channel is not affiliated with mojang
#1046 [12:55] <Calinou> <tyteen4a03> weini: I think they share the same data id 295 < they do
#1047 [12:55] <Calinou> 295 is the ITEM
#1048 [12:55] <Calinou> 59 is the BLOCK
#1049 [12:55] <Necrodoom> the planted seeds are ID 59
#1050 [12:55] <Necrodoom> harvested are ID 295
#1051 [12:55] <robi99> calinou where can i find help ?
#1052 [12:55] <weini> ok guys thanks...
#1053 [12:56] <robi99> with my account
#1054 [12:57] <weini> so but another little question, ive installed essentials on my little testing server, and when i say /give weini37 295:3 it gaves me some seeds :)
#1055 [12:58] <Necrodoom> thats because 295 is seeds
#1056 [12:58] <Necrodoom> the item form
#1057 [12:58] <Necrodoom> wheat is 296
#1058 [12:58] <Necrodoom> type /i 295 and you see
#1059 [12:59] <weini> yes i know :)
#1060 [12:59] <Necrodoom> 295:3 is non existant
#1061 [12:59] <Necrodoom> so still gives seeds
#1062 [12:59] <Necrodoom> use .itemdb command on #essentials
#1063 [13:01] <weini> so is there no way to let an program with the ids know, when the seeds are ready to harvest?
#1064 [13:02] <robi99> can anybody tell my, where can i find help about my account ?
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#1066 [13:08] <weini> nb know it?
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#1068 [13:19] <Xxcody5codyxX> Hey i need help .-.
#1069 [13:19] <Xxcody5codyxX> how do i make a Minecraft server?
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#1071 [13:20] <Xxcody5codyxX> hi?
#1072 [13:20] <Xxcody5codyxX> erm uhh how do i make a minecraft server? D:
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#1079 [13:40] <Killjoy> hey, anybody here able to log in to minecraft atm?
#1080 [13:40] <Calinou> !login
#1081 [13:40] <Calinou> yes
#1082 [13:41] <Killjoy> odd, I keep getting "Cant connect to minecraft.net"
#1083 [13:41] <Calinou> weini, 59:7 < fully grown crop, iirc
#1084 [13:41] <Puddles> does anyone play on cleverbot?
#1085 [13:41] <Killjoy> checked firewalls and all tricks, same problem on both of my PC's
#1086 [13:41] <Calinou> damage values 8/15 glitch out... farm redstone torches/doors :D
#1087 [13:41] <Calinou> Killjoy, windows/mac/linux?
#1088 [13:41] <Killjoy> Win7 X64
#1089 [13:41] <Calinou> Puddles, what? we don't help with server-specific stuff
#1090 [13:41] <Puddles> the mods there work on steam
#1091 [13:42] <Puddles> they hack webcams
#1092 [13:42] <Calinou> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#1093 [13:42] <Calinou> try this Killjoy ^
#1094 [13:42] <Calinou> (read carefully!)
#1095 [13:42] <Calinou> Puddles, and?
#1096 [13:42] <Puddles> they wire tap your laptop using the steam client
#1097 [13:42] <Killjoy> Cheers Calinou
#1098 [13:42] <Puddles> did you know they listen in to your house
#1099 [13:42] <Puddles> i told the fbi
#1100 [13:42] <Calinou> if you want to spread hoaxes, do it elsewhere
#1101 [13:42] <Calinou> oh god
#1102 [13:42] <Puddles> i have it oon my website
#1103 [13:42] * Calinou pokes GreyVulpine and Boreeas
#1103 [13:42] <Calinou> ignoring for now
#1104 [13:42] <Puddles> cleverbotisalie dot blogspot dot com
#1105 [13:43] <Puddles> read my blog about steam
#1106 [13:43] <Puddles> they listen in with your microphone
#1107 [13:43] <Puddles> steam microphone defaults to push your voice whenever i talk
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#1109 [13:43] <Puddles> please see screen shot on my blog
#1110 [13:43] <Puddles> the ssame mods work on omegle
#1111 [13:43] <Puddles> they work in the twit network
#1112 [13:43] <Puddles> they play words with friends
#1113 [13:44] <Puddles> they flirt with minor children
#1114 [13:44] <Puddles> cleverbot is not a bot
#1115 [13:44] <Puddles> it's a group of old men sexting young girls
#1116 [13:44] <Puddles> try talking to it late at night
#1117 [13:45] <Puddles> I told Richland Washington police
#1118 [13:45] <Puddles> did you know Roy lives there he's married to sherri
#1119 [13:45] <Puddles> he told me he wanted to have an affari
#1120 [13:45] <Puddles> affair
#1121 [13:45] <Puddles> he flat out admits he has a child
#1122 [13:45] <Puddles> wonder if his wife ever googles his name
#1123 [13:46] <Puddles> joe and max live in the philippines
#1124 [13:46] <Puddles> ray the general lives in houston but he thinks he lives in canada
#1125 [13:46] <weini> @calinou it dosnt work either ...
#1126 [13:46] <Puddles> roy lightfoot owns linkwire.com
#1127 [13:47] <Puddles> they think they own the internet
#1128 [13:47] <Puddles> they blink the clocks at my school
#1129 [13:47] <Puddles> they put a magnet on my car
#1130 [13:47] <weini> @calinou it works :)
#1131 [13:47] <weini> thanks
#1132 [13:47] <weini> <3
#1133 [13:47] <Puddles> ish romero thinks he likes cars
#1134 [13:47] <Puddles> andrew burtang links german bs
#1135 [13:47] <Puddles> their dirty old men sexting and flirting with young girls
#1136 [13:48] <Puddles> their names are on my blog cleverbotisalie dot blogspot dot com
#1137 [13:48] <Puddles> they can't get it down because I use google authenticator
#1138 [13:48] <Puddles> do you know how many people i've told my story?
#1139 [13:48] <Puddles> follow me on twitter hackingiswrong
#1140 [13:48] <Puddles> hackers don't win
#1141 [13:48] <xales> Puddles: Do not advertise here.
#1142 [13:49] <Puddles> of course not
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#1144 [13:49] <Puddles> they think they are a group of five men
#1145 [13:49] <Puddles> that can hack anything they want
#1146 [13:49] * VoxelHead kicked Puddles from #minecrafthelp (Reason: uddles :Banned)
#1147 [13:49] <Killjoy> Calinou, got further than last time, now it keeps failing at Login. Just tried changing my password also, still the same
#1148 [13:51] <LilLucy> Who the hell is puddles :|
#1149 [13:51] <Eddie> LilLucy: a dog
#1150 [13:52] <LilLucy> Naa dogs are nice.. sometimes
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#1152 [13:58] <Killjoy> Anybody have any ideas why the hell cant I log in on the dowloaded part of the game but i can on the webpage?
#1153 [13:59] <DreadLindwyrm> Killjoy - it could be the severs being a bbit strange.
#1154 [13:59] <DreadLindwyrm> It sometimes happens near release dates for full versions of the game.
#1155 [14:00] <Killjoy> I guess I'll just have to give it some time then. Thanks though.
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#1159 [14:15] <Boreeas> Oh my, looks like I missed some fun
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#1161 [14:15] <ladyverne> Hello, is there a way to play full screen on the free version ?
#1162 [14:16] <VoxelHead> Eu no posso compreender o que voc est dizendo.
#1163 [14:17] <ladyverne> umm...sorry but I do not know any language but English. Do you speak English ?
#1164 [14:18] <NinjaKirby> Voxelhead is a bot, and for some reason responding in Spanish XD Bizarre
#1165 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> ladyverne: when you say 'free version', do you mean the demo, or do you mean Classic?
#1166 [14:18] <DopeGhoti> if the latter: no.
#1167 [14:18] <ladyverne> OK thanks very much-everyone have a great day !
#1168 [14:18] <NinjaKirby> Really Dope? Classic F11 or F12 (Whatever it is) doesn't work?
#1169 [14:19] <NinjaKirby> Good lordy
#1170 [14:19] <DopeGhoti> NinjaKirby: Classic only runs in-browser, does it not? I suppose you could monkey with the CSS inline?
#1171 [14:19] <NinjaKirby> Dope: Ah, fair enough, I guess I'm thinking... like... old Creative or Alpha era, which I thought supported it, whatever :3
#1172 [14:21] <NinjaKirby> I still have some screenshots from my InfDev map, thought my Cobblestone twin-tower fort was so grand, hehe
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#1174 [14:24] <pilotbaker11> I need help?
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#1177 [14:24] <xales> ??> pilotbaker11 ask
#1178 [14:24] <VoxelHead> pilotbaker11: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1179 [14:24] <VoxelHead> pilotbaker11: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1180 [14:25] <pilotbaker11> Is there anyone that knows how to get there email verified, if the system does not send you a verification code?
#1181 [14:25] <xales> pilotbaker11: Did you use the right address? Check your spam folder?
#1182 [14:25] <pilotbaker11> I have.
#1183 [14:25] <pilotbaker11> I checked over and over again, for the past 30 mins.
#1184 [14:26] <xales> I believe the site has been having some issues lately, you may just need to wait. You could also try registering with a different username, and see if that works.
#1185 [14:26] <pilotbaker11> signed out and signed back in, and also tried getting the minecraft site to send me another code, but says it just recently sent me one
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#1194 [14:56] <Brendan> Why Does My Minecraft Not Work With The Latest Java Version?
#1195 [14:56] <sjenner77> Hi can anyone help with a quick query?
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#1197 [14:58] <sjenner77> hello?
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#1199 [14:58] <AlthosSilver> Hey, can I get some help here. I purchased a gift code for a friend, we set up his new email, because he did not have one. He then setup his new Minecraft.net account and has not received a verification email, and it wont allow him to resend the verification email
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#1201 [14:58] <sjenner77> Hi I have a quick question please
#1202 [15:00] <echo68> What's up?
#1203 [15:00] <sjenner77> My son is desperate for the Aether mod 1.2.5 - is it out?
#1204 [15:00] <Brendan> @ AlthosSilver, I think you should go to account issues to solve your problem.
#1205 [15:00] <AlthosSilver> Trying to get a new minecraft player going, but he is not receiving his verification email and so cannot use the gift code i just bought him
#1206 [15:00] <Brendan> http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#1207 [15:00] <Brendan> that is the account channel
#1208 [15:01] <AlthosSilver> I tried, it just puts me in a circle loop of no information
#1209 [15:01] <Brendan> oh
#1210 [15:01] <Brendan> nvm then
#1211 [15:01] <AlthosSilver> There is no way to resolve it with the information board
#1212 [15:01] <puffrfish> sjenner77: there is a pre-release available, try /join #aethermod
#1213 [15:01] <AlthosSilver> this is obviously a glitch with their automated email verification system.
#1214 [15:01] <sjenner77> Thank you - where do I go to get to hashtag aether mod?
#1215 [15:02] <Brendan> Althos
#1216 [15:02] <puffrfish> use the command /join #aethermod
#1217 [15:02] <Brendan> could the email not be verified yet?
#1218 [15:03] <AlthosSilver> why, this is not a Mod issue. this is an Account Issue that cannot be resolved using the automated system that is offered on mojang.com. Yes that is basically it, we cannot confirm the email because no confirmation email was sent from minecraft.net
#1219 [15:04] <lutzee> Chances are you miss typed the email when inputting it into minecraft.net
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#1223 [15:19] <blindisc3> hello?
#1224 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> how nice of AmberK's surviving family to update eir IRC status for em after eir demise.
#1225 [15:28] <AmberK|Dead> ikr
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#1227 [15:28] * Elystus plans AmberK's funeral
#1227 [15:28] <DopeGhoti> My condolences on your loss, whoever is using AmberK's keyboard.
#1228 [15:29] <DopeGhoti> morning, Marc_IRL
#1229 [15:29] <Marc_IRL> hi
#1230 [15:29] <Elystus> Morning :)
#1231 [15:29] <AmberK|Dead> Marc_IRL: are you attending my funeral?
#1232 [15:29] <AmberK|Dead> Elystus seems to be working hard on it
#1233 [15:29] <Marc_IRL> I'll send flowers
#1234 [15:29] <AmberK|Dead> \o/
#1235 [15:29] * Elystus checks flowers of the lsit
#1235 [15:30] <DopeGhoti> is the LSIT anyhing like the LSAT?
#1236 [15:30] * Elystus plans to have dubstep playing
#1236 [15:30] <Elystus> >_>
#1237 [15:31] <DopeGhoti> The best wakes are the ones which provide enough liquefied neurotoxin to prevent recall of the wake after the fact.
#1238 [15:33] <AmberK|Dead> $y Silvia Roboberget remix
#1239 [15:33] <AmberK|Dead> :( no Cad
#1240 [15:33] <AmberK|Dead> inb4 Ely jumps on my failure
#1241 [15:33] <Elystus> damn...
#1242 [15:33] <AmberK|Dead> \o/
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#1245 [15:41] <AlthosSilver> Okay, verified that the email address is correct. Still not receiving verification emails for my friends account from mojang.com
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#1249 [15:46] <Namron> Hello?
#1250 [15:46] <Smanly> Hi
#1251 [15:46] <Namron> I'm having a bit of trouble with playing minecraft
#1252 [15:46] <Namron> my old computer stopped workign so I got a new one
#1253 [15:47] <emmettIV> i was having trouble getting minecraft to start
#1254 [15:47] <Namron> it has all the specs to run minecraft but I can only play for about a minute before the game crashes saying that the AMD card drivers have stopped working
#1255 [15:47] <Namron> I have the graphics card AMD radeon hd 6630 m
#1256 [15:47] <Elystus> Namron: What is the exact error message?
#1257 [15:47] <Elystus> emmettIV: More details please.
#1258 [15:47] <Namron> AMD drivers have stopped working and recovered sucessfully
#1259 [15:48] <emmettIV> then one of your people helped me then i got it to work
#1260 [15:48] <Elystus> Lets see if getting new drivers will help this issue at all.
#1261 [15:48] <Namron> I've updated the drivers
#1262 [15:48] <Namron> bios
#1263 [15:48] <Namron> uninstalled and reinstalled both java and minecraft
#1264 [15:48] <CrusaderDeleters> sir_ice? :o
#1265 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> Namron: did you update the drivers via Windows Update, or via AMD's site?
#1266 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> Also:
#1267 [15:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Woops
#1268 [15:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? specs
#1269 [15:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Wrong channel
#1270 [15:48] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#1271 [15:49] <emmettIV> now i have to open a black box to make minecraft to work can i fix that so i don't have to do that
#1272 [15:50] <Elystus> emmettIV: Can you explain what the fix is as of now?
#1273 [15:50] <Namron> from the manufacturers website, it's a Sony VAIO model VPCSE290S, 8GB DDR3 RAM, ati radeon hd 6630 m graphics, Windows 64 bit, 64 bit java
#1274 [15:50] <Namron> DopeGhoti: I updated it from the manufacturers website as prompted by AMD
#1275 [15:51] <emmettIV> there is a black mcerror box i have to open can i fix it
#1276 [15:51] <Namron> @VoxelHead it's a Sony VAIO model VPCSE290S, 8GB DDR3 RAM, ati radeon hd 6630 m graphics, Windows 64 bit, 64 bit java
#1277 [15:51] <Elystus> emmettIV: Can I get a screenshot?
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#1279 [15:51] <Elystus> Namron: Download this driver: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx
#1280 [15:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> Namron version
#1281 [15:51] <Namron> Elystus: of the error message?
#1282 [15:51] <VoxelHead> Namron: (version) When you are asked what version of something you are running, DO NOT just say 'the latest'. We know what the latest version is; we want to confirm that you are actually running the latest version. Please, PLEASE give us actual version or release numbers.
#1283 [15:51] <Oddmouth> Can anyone else not receive emails from Mojang.com?
#1284 [15:52] <Elystus> Namron: I asked emmettIV for a screenshot, not you.
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#1286 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Namron: which version of Java have you got installed?
#1287 [15:52] <emmettIV> one min.
#1288 [15:53] <Namron> DopeGhoti: java version 7.0.50.5
#1289 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> Namron java/1.7
#1290 [15:53] <VoxelHead> Namron: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#1291 [15:53] <DopeGhoti> ??> Namron getjava
#1292 [15:53] <VoxelHead> Namron: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1293 [15:54] <Oddmouth> I know this isn't related to Minecraft, but can anyone else receive emails from mojang.com about changing the email address associated with your account? I've been trying for the past two weeks and I haven't gotten one yet.
#1294 [15:54] <Namron> Elystus: I've tried running that program and AMD says my graphics card is not supported and to go to the manufacturer's website and update from there which I did
#1295 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> Oddmouth: I've never tried to change the email address assigned to my account, so I cannot speak to whether that works. However other account-related emails are reaching me properly.
#1296 [15:54] <Oddmouth> Hmm.
#1297 [15:55] <emmettIV> how should i send it to u
#1298 [15:55] <Elystus> Namron: Does the laptop have switchable graphics?
#1299 [15:56] <Namron> Elystus: I don't believe so
#1300 [15:57] <emmettIV> should i send it to you in an email
#1301 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> or you could just ignore the known problem and keep chasing GPU drivers.
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#1303 [15:58] <Elystus> Namron: Does this issue only occur with minecraft?
#1304 [15:58] <Namron> yes, and the modded version of Minecraft tekkit
#1305 [15:59] <Elystus> So it only happens with vanilla and modified minecraft.
#1306 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> once again:
#1307 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1.7
#1308 [15:59] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#1309 [15:59] <DopeGhoti> ?? getjava
#1310 [15:59] <VoxelHead> getjava: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1311 [15:59] <Elystus> Yes, I think getting Java 6 may be a good idea.
#1312 [16:00] <emmettIV> so
#1313 [16:01] <Namron> Dope and Voxel, I have gone through with getjava and am now just testing to see if it works, sorry for the confusion, I was seeking advice in the meantime in case it didn't work
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#1315 [16:01] <Elystus> emmettIV: Do you have the screenshot? If so, upload it to imgur.com
#1316 [16:02] <matt_> my minecraft crashed
#1317 [16:03] <emmettIV> i just did i will send the full thing if needed
#1318 [16:03] <Namron> alright I downloaded java 1.6 and am still running into the same problem
#1319 [16:03] <DopeGhoti> Namron: Same error?
#1320 [16:04] <Namron> DopeGhoti: same error
#1321 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> It's a bit of a long shot, but try this:
#1322 [16:04] <DopeGhoti> ??> Namron win/profile
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#1324 [16:04] <VoxelHead> Namron: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#1325 [16:04] <VoxelHead> Namron: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#1326 [16:05] <Elystus> emmettIV: Give me the link to the imgur page.
#1327 [16:05] <emmettIV> like the url
#1328 [16:05] <Elystus> yes
#1329 [16:05] <buckX> Hey, I was wondering if anybody could help me with a purchasing issue. When I go to the store page, American Express is listed as an option. When I select it and click to proceed, it brings me a form by Skrill that only supports MC and Visa. Is it supposed to be connecting me to a different checkout service or something?
#1330 [16:06] <emmettIV> i think this is it http://imgur.com/UBRtz
#1331 [16:07] <Namron> VoxelHead DopeGhoti: Alright, trying that now
#1332 [16:07] <DopeGhoti> good luck.
#1333 [16:07] <Elystus> Why are you starting minecraft with a bat file that checks for errors?
#1334 [16:08] <Elystus> emmettIV ^
#1335 [16:08] <emmettIV> because it won't work otherwise as the other person i was talking to said he told me how to run it without it but my computer crashed
#1336 [16:08] <Elystus> can you put what is in the bat file on pastebin.com
#1337 [16:09] <Elystus> I can edit it so that the black box is not there.
#1338 [16:10] <emmettIV> i will have to type everything just give me a min.
#1339 [16:11] <Elystus> you can just copy and paste :/
#1340 [16:12] <Namron> VoxelHead DopeGhoti: Same problem, same erroro message
#1341 [16:12] <Namron> error*
#1342 [16:12] <emmettIV> i couldn't but then i ran a program to do that
#1343 [16:13] <Elystus> emmettIV: right click the bat file and click edit.
#1344 [16:13] <Elystus> Then copy what comes up in notepad and put it on pastebin.com
#1345 [16:13] <emmettIV> so do i need to give you the url now
#1346 [16:13] <Elystus> yes
#1347 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> Namron: okay, that means there's definitel something wrong with your system as a whole
#1348 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> I would completely remove the GPU drivers, reboot, and get the latest drivers from the OEM site
#1349 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> then install them, reboot once more, and see if the issue persists.
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#1351 [16:15] <emmettIV> http://pastebin.com/YtHm8H8F
#1352 [16:15] <buckX> So does nobody know about Amex purchases?
#1353 [16:15] <Elystus> emmettIV: Thats not what I meant
#1354 [16:16] <Elystus> Right click on the bat file and click edit.
#1355 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> buckX: sorry, no. I would try using the card via PayPal.
#1356 [16:16] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: might be a bad time to ask, but have you added the 2 factoids I asked yet? just wondering
#1357 [16:16] <Elystus> It will bring up notepad. COpy and paste the code that comes up on pastebin.com
#1358 [16:16] <vehlox> Bought Minecraft, downloaded it, run it, but it says it cannot connect to Minecraft.net and also says it is not downloaded. Help please
#1359 [16:17] <Elystus> vehlox: Is there anything odd about the launcher?
#1360 [16:17] <vehlox> it says "<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect</center></font></body></html>" at the top
#1361 [16:17] <Elystus> Grey and html in the newspanel, black at the bottom of the launcher?
#1362 [16:17] <Namron> DopeGhoti: what are the GPU Drivers and what is the OEM website?
#1363 [16:17] <Elystus> Yep that is a Java issue.
#1364 [16:18] <Elystus> vehlox: You have Java 7, correct?
#1365 [16:18] <vehlox> Have downloaded and installed latest version today, Java 7 version 5
#1366 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> Namron: you said it'sa Viao laptop; in this case your OEM is Sony
#1367 [16:18] <emmettIV> http://pastebin.com/bi6L71EH
#1368 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> Namron: go to their site, look up your laptop's make and model, and get the latest GPU drivers thence
#1369 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> ?? gpu
#1370 [16:18] <VoxelHead> gpu: Graphical Processing Unit; also known as one's Video Card or Graphics Adapter. See ?? win/dxdiag for how to get lots of information about yours.
#1371 [16:19] <Elystus> emmettIV: What happens when you start the launcher without using that batch file?
#1372 [16:19] <Namron> Thanks VoxelHead. DopeGhoti: I did that a few weeks ago, do you think that the gpu update would be new since then?
#1373 [16:19] <emmettIV> it says bad video drivers
#1374 [16:19] <vehlox> Elystus - any ideas?
#1375 [16:19] <Elystus> vehlox: The simplest solution is to downgrade to java 6.
#1376 [16:20] <vehlox> cheers
#1377 [16:20] <Elystus> There is another more complex solution however, if you are up for it.
#1378 [16:20] <Elystus> emmettIV: Well we need to get you new drivers
#1379 [16:20] <Elystus> ??>> emmettIV win/dxdiag
#1380 [16:21] <emmettIV> we tryed the launcher on 2 different computers and it said the same thing and he has a windows 7
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#1382 [16:22] <emmettIV> what is the more complex solution
#1383 [16:23] <Eddie> ax^2 + bx + c = 0
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#1385 [16:24] <DopeGhoti> no, those are rather simple, really.
#1386 [16:24] <Liraxus> Hey.
#1387 [16:24] <Elystus> emmettIV: That line was not directed at you. You need to get new drivers. Follow the directions that Voxelhead gave you.
#1388 [16:24] <Liraxus> Is their some kind of Template for Texture pack creation i can use.
#1389 [16:24] <Namron> DopeGhoti: I've gone to Sony's site and compared the proferred update and it is the same as the driver that I am currently running, however when i updated it I neglected to remove the old gpu update, could this be the problem and if so how do I fix it
#1390 [16:25] <emmettIV> which one did i save the screen shot
#1391 [16:26] <Namron> VoxelHead: I've gone to Sony's site and compared the proferred update and it is the same as the driver that I am currently running, however when i updated it I neglected to remove the old gpu update, could this be the problem and if so how do I fix it
#1392 [16:26] <lutzee> ?? bot
#1393 [16:26] <VoxelHead> bot: I just type quickly.
#1394 [16:28] <Namron> VoxelHead: can you help?
#1395 [16:28] <emmettIV> i did what he said here is the url http://pastebin.com/1r73cDws
#1396 [16:30] <Elystus> emmettIV: That is only part of the dxdiag.
#1397 [16:30] <Elystus> We need the whole thing.
#1398 [16:30] <Namron> Elystus: Hey mate, is there any way you can help?
#1399 [16:30] <Elystus> Namron: Give me a moment to look through the logs.
#1400 [16:30] <Namron> thanks
#1401 [16:31] <Elystus> what is the error message that you are getting?
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#1403 [16:32] <emmettIV> okay sorry me computer shut down
#1404 [16:32] <emmettIV> did you get the url
#1405 [16:32] <Elystus> emmettIV: That is only part of the dxdiag.
#1406 [16:33] <Elystus> we need the whole thing
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#1408 [16:34] <emmettIV> what did i need to run
#1409 [16:34] <emmettIV> in the run bar
#1410 [16:34] <Namron> Elystus: I can recap if you like
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#1412 [16:35] <Elystus> emmettIV: dxdiag
#1413 [16:35] <emmettIV> then i just save all to desktop
#1414 [16:35] <Elystus> yep
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#1416 [16:38] <emmettIV> http://pastebin.com/Gr0PKTnf
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#1418 [16:38] <Elystus> well your issue is Display Memory: 128.0 MB
#1419 [16:38] <emmettIV> was that to me
#1420 [16:38] <Elystus> Its below the min amount to run minecraft.
#1421 [16:39] <emmettIV> what
#1422 [16:39] <Namron> Elystus: Me or emmett IV
#1423 [16:39] <Elystus> Emmett
#1424 [16:40] <Namron> any suggestions for my predicament?
#1425 [16:40] <Elystus> emmettIV: The graphics card has below the minimum amount of dedicated memory.
#1426 [16:41] <emmettIV> it their a way to increase that without replacing the card
#1427 [16:41] <Elystus> no, but I am trying to get you some new drivers
#1428 [16:42] <Elystus> intel's site does not like me right now.
#1429 [16:42] <emmettIV> so you cant raise it at all
#1430 [16:42] <Elystus> No
#1431 [16:43] <Elystus> I have to go
#1432 [16:43] <Elystus> emmettIV: Go to this site: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1433 [16:43] <Elystus> and search for GMA 950
#1434 [16:43] <emmettIV> so the only way to fix this would be to physicly go out and buy a new graphics card
#1435 [16:43] <Elystus> emmettIV: If the new drivers does not work, then yes.
#1436 [16:44] <Namron> VoxelHead: can you help?
#1437 [16:44] <Elystus> Voxelhead is a bot Namron.
#1438 [16:45] <emmettIV> so what was the black box doing then since it works with the box
#1439 [16:45] <Elystus> emmettIV: If it works with the bat file. Then use it.
#1440 [16:45] <Namron> Elystus: oh haha, could've sworn he was talking to me just now, are there any other admins? Just cause you seem busy
#1441 [16:45] <Elystus> Namron: I have no idea who is here.
#1442 [16:46] <Elystus> I have to go :/ Bye
#1443 [16:46] <Namron> alright
#1444 [16:47] <emmettIV> so what should i do once it is downloaded and on the desktop
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#1446 [16:50] <Rikairchy> 0.0
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#1453 [17:11] <Digger0785> Hello. Can some one tell me how to activate a gift code? (Its alpha if that makes any differene)
#1454 [17:13] <Marc_IRL> www.minecraft.net/redeem. Alpha makes no difference.
#1455 [17:13] <Marc_IRL> Wait, that URL doesn't work... one sec
#1456 [17:13] <Digger0785> Thank you kindly
#1457 [17:13] <Digger0785> oh...
#1458 [17:13] <Marc_IRL> http://www.minecraft.net/profile
#1459 [17:14] <Digger0785> I wnet htere, and I am able to see my codes, but not how to activate them
#1460 [17:16] <Digger0785> I'm going to try logging out and going back to the profile page
#1461 [17:16] <lutzee> You bought a gift code for yourself?
#1462 [17:17] <Digger0785> Yes, some time ago
#1463 [17:17] <DiskDaemon> What better gift could a person get for themself? :)
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#1465 [17:19] <Killjoy> hello, having trouble getting minecraft running. I'm able to log in on the website, but not to the downloadable bit
#1466 [17:20] <DiskDaemon> What is the trouble that occurs?
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#1468 [17:23] <Marc_IRL> Digger0785: What's your minecraft username?
#1469 [17:23] <Digger0785> Audacy
#1470 [17:24] <Marc_IRL> You can't redeem your gift codes because you're already premium
#1471 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> Is it allowed for a person to have a second account, and for that second account to use the gift code?
#1472 [17:25] <Digger0785> I'm looking to set up an account for some one else, I think I've got it beat, I need to find an unused screen name.
#1473 [17:25] <Marc_IRL> You need to log in as the account that needs to be upgraded, and go to the profile. The gift code redemption box disappears when you're already premium.
#1474 [17:25] <ShaRose> oh yeah Marc_IRL I remember seeing a day or two ago someone said they had an account migrated on them and the email and password was changed
#1475 [17:25] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: I see that every day. They should email us.
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#1478 [17:25] <ShaRose> we told them to
#1479 [17:25] <Marc_IRL> And not to use crappy passwords
#1480 [17:26] <ViscousCheetos> Hello?
#1481 [17:26] <Boreeas> Hi, ViscousCheetos, can we help you?
#1482 [17:26] <Marc_IRL> I had some guy that was mad the other day because he couldn't use his username as his password. We changed that so people would stop using stupid passwords and having their accounts stolen.
#1483 [17:26] <ShaRose> hahahaha
#1484 [17:26] <ViscousCheetos> yes please my frien got a new laptop and we cant seem to get minecraft to work
#1485 [17:26] <Killjoy> My username is 15 characters, could that be a problem
#1486 [17:27] <Boreeas> ViscousCheetos: What error do you get?
#1487 [17:27] <Killjoy> Login failed
#1488 [17:27] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL should blacklist the top 100 or so bad passwords too
#1489 [17:27] <Boreeas> Killjoy: That's right, never use passwords with less than 20 letters.
#1490 [17:27] <Killjoy> So I gotta make my PW longer than 20?
#1491 [17:27] <Marc_IRL> This is how you make a password: http://xkcd.com/936/
#1492 [17:27] <Boreeas> Ah, that one :P
#1493 [17:27] <ViscousCheetos> can not connect to minecraft.net, can't play offline because its not downloaded and the updates on the left are just code
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#1495 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> There's a list of the top 62K passwords at *mumble mutter*
#1496 [17:28] <Morrolan> Pastebin.
#1497 [17:28] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL if they know you are using words like that it's even EASIER to bruteforce
#1498 [17:28] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: I had them blacklist a number of passwords, but we didn't go too far into the dumb ones.
#1499 [17:28] <Killjoy> ViscousCheetos, I had a similar case earlier - caused by IPv6'
#1500 [17:28] <Boreeas> ViscousCheetos: But you can open the website in your browser?
#1501 [17:28] <DiskDaemon> xkcd - damn I love that guy, but he took that idea from Steve Gibson, the creator of SpinRite and the author of a weekjly Security Now podcast.
#1502 [17:28] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: It'll take them longer
#1503 [17:28] <ViscousCheetos> no, java just keeps loading
#1504 [17:29] <Morrolan> DiskDaemon - The list of hacked accounts which can be found on Pastebin.com and similar sites can be fairly educating. ^^
#1505 [17:29] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Randall Munroe used to work for NASA. I'm not sure he "stole" how to make a better password from anyone.
#1506 [17:29] <ShaRose> DiskDaemon if I was gonna suggest that, I'd bug him to use http://www.insidepro.com/dictionaries/hashkiller.com.rar
#1507 [17:29] <ShaRose> it's a table with 23,685,601 passwords
#1508 [17:29] <Boreeas> ViscousCheetos: No, I meant if you can access the website - http://minecraft.net, no http://minecraft.net/play or http://minecraft.net/game
#1509 [17:29] <DiskDaemon> Okay, so the timing is just a coincidence. Good ideas spread, and the progenitor of that one is what I'm getting at here
#1510 [17:29] <ViscousCheetos> yes we can
#1511 [17:30] <Boreeas> ViscousCheetos: Do you know what version of java you are using?
#1512 [17:30] <ShaRose> http://www.troyhunt.com/2012/06/our-password-hashing-has-no-clothes.html "In fact in the time it takes to watch a couple of episodes of the Family Guy, we cracked 24,710 hashes or 63% of the total sample size."
#1513 [17:30] <ShaRose> so yeah
#1514 [17:30] <Killjoy> Anyways, I'm having trouble getting minecraft, the downloadable version running, keeps saying Login Failed. I'm able to log in on the website, tried changing and reseting my password twice now.
#1515 [17:31] <ViscousCheetos> we have both 32 and 64 downloaded and the system is 64
#1516 [17:31] <DiskDaemon> Killjoy: What is your minecraft username?
#1517 [17:31] <Killjoy> fearlesskilljoy
#1518 [17:31] <Boreeas> ViscousCheetos: Yeah, but what version? 1.6, 1.7?
#1519 [17:31] <Killjoy> (dont laugh, fearless is a clan) :p
#1520 [17:32] <Boreeas> Clantags? In /my/ Minecraft?
#1521 [17:32] <ViscousCheetos> how do I check?
#1522 [17:32] <Marc_IRL> fearlesskilljoy is not a valid username
#1523 [17:32] <DiskDaemon> !paid fearless is a clan
#1524 [17:32] <Boreeas> ViscousCheetos: Open the command prompt, enter "java -version"
#1525 [17:32] <ShaRose> if we were going to laugh we would laugh at Killjoy too
#1526 [17:33] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: It's not just that he hasn't paid, the username doesn't exist
#1527 [17:33] <Killjoy> i have paid and i can show you the receipt
#1528 [17:33] <ViscousCheetos> 1.7
#1529 [17:33] <Killjoy> and i can sign in on the website fine
#1530 [17:33] <Boreeas> ViscousCheetos: That would probably be the problem
#1531 [17:33] <DiskDaemon> Killjoy: Marc here is our tame accounts person from Mojang. Please wave to the nice person :)
#1532 [17:33] <Killjoy> waaait a sec.
#1533 [17:33] <Boreeas> ??> ViscousCheetos java/ipv6/bat
#1534 [17:33] <Marc_IRL> Use the name you registered with. fearlesskilljoy is not a username in the Minecraft system.
#1535 [17:33] <VoxelHead> ViscousCheetos: (java/ipv6/bat) You can get a premade batch file with the necessary command line arguments here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15421087/Minecraft/%23Minecrafthelp/run_ipv4.bat
#1536 [17:33] <Killjoy> sorry for being rude there
#1537 [17:34] <Killjoy> guys, any idea if ZoneAlarm could be causing trouble?
#1538 [17:34] <ShaRose> possibly, would it also edit the username in irc
#1539 [17:34] <ShaRose> !paid fearlesskilljoy
#1540 [17:34] <ShaRose> !paid killjoy
#1541 [17:34] <ShaRose> etc
#1542 [17:34] <Marc_IRL> Killjoy: Do you have the email from Mojang?
#1543 [17:35] <Killjoy> ugh, i figured it and i am sooo ashamed
#1544 [17:35] <Killjoy> try this: fearlesskiljoy
#1545 [17:35] <Killjoy> i made a typo, i feel like a moron lol
#1546 [17:35] <ShaRose> !paid fearlesskiljoy
#1547 [17:35] <Marc_IRL> DERP.
#1548 [17:35] <ViscousCheetos> what do I do with it?
#1549 [17:35] <ShaRose> bingo
#1550 [17:35] <Killjoy> sorry lads for wastin your time, go ahead and laugh now
#1551 [17:35] <Boreeas> ViscousCheetos: Try downloading the launcher jar from the website, then placing the bat in the same folder as the launcher and doubleclick the bat
#1552 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> Do you want me to fix the typo for you?
#1553 [17:36] <Boreeas> The jar can be found under "Show all platforms" -> Linux, but works fine on all operating systems
#1554 [17:36] <Killjoy> it would be very appreciated Marc_IRL
#1555 [17:36] <Killjoy> sorry for sounding rude earlier
#1556 [17:36] <Marc_IRL> It'd strip the payment information out of the account, because I'd have to technically upgrade a second account and de-premium your first one, so we couldn't really trace it back to you if you messed it up in the future.
#1557 [17:37] <Marc_IRL> If I change it, I'd suggest migrating it to a Mojang account asap, and adding in your personal info
#1558 [17:37] <DiskDaemon> Could a note be left in the records so that someone in-house is able to trace things back if need be?
#1559 [17:37] <Killjoy> will do, marc, would you be able to send a new password (if needed) by email?
#1560 [17:37] <ShaRose> probably not allowed
#1561 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Can only note Mojang accounts
#1562 [17:38] <Elystus> Marc_IRL: I have no idea what the account tools that you have look like, but would it be possible to add a note with the original accounts transaction id?
#1563 [17:38] <Elystus> Ahh
#1564 [17:38] <Elystus> Ninja'd
#1565 [17:38] <Marc_IRL> Killjoy: I'll swap your email address to the new one, so you would have to change your password
#1566 [17:39] <Killjoy> very much appreciated
#1567 [17:40] <Marc_IRL> Actually, it's probably easier for me to migrate it
#1568 [17:40] <Smanly> Anyone got a nice 1.3 seed?
#1569 [17:40] <Marc_IRL> Someday, I'll be able to do that in the account tools themselves
#1570 [17:40] <ViscousCheetos> Thank you for all of your help my friend is so happy it worked
#1571 [17:40] <Boreeas> Great!
#1572 [17:40] <Boreeas> Have fun playing!
#1573 [17:40] <Boreeas> Have fun playing!
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#1575 [17:41] <Marc_IRL> Killjoy: Okay, go to https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
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#1577 [17:42] <aever> Hey
#1578 [17:42] <Digger0785> Success! Thank you for your help setting that up.
#1579 [17:42] <aever> I just purchased minecraft for the PC and for some reason, after about 3 minutes, it starts lagging then freezes all together
#1580 [17:42] <aever> Does anyone know a fix for that?
#1581 [17:42] <Killjoy> brilliant, it works. thanks a ton Marc, I'll go ahead and secure that account
#1582 [17:42] <Smanly> What are the spec of your computer?
#1583 [17:42] <Marc_IRL> Killjoy: and ignore all of the mojang emails except the password reset one. I've probably triggered a few by changing your account details.
#1584 [17:43] <aever> x64 a toshiba satellite A505 with nvidia
#1585 [17:43] <aever> 4gb of ram
#1586 [17:43] <Boreeas> What graphics card?
#1587 [17:43] <aever> i can play skyrim without any trouble
#1588 [17:43] <aever> one sec, i know it nvidia but i forgot exact
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#1590 [17:45] <aever> nvidia 295,73
#1591 [17:45] <aever> 295.73*
#1592 [17:45] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/discrete
#1593 [17:45] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#1594 [17:45] <Killjoy> Some account confirmation ones popped up, I'll just delete them
#1595 [17:45] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#1596 [17:46] <aever> do i do the same thing as site says for HP but go to toshiba?
#1597 [17:47] <aever> nvidia geforce 310m is what i have
#1598 [17:48] <Killjoy> Also, I had some IPv6 conflict issues earlier, right now running the game with a command line extention to a shortcut. is there a way for me to get it running properly otherwise?
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#1600 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Uninstall java completely, install either java 6 or java 7
#1601 [17:51] <DiskDaemon> aever: yes, that would make sense
#1602 [17:52] <aever> so, disk, i should update my BIOS, then it will work?
#1603 [17:53] <DiskDaemon> aever: The point of updating the BIOS is so that you can adjust the graphics settings, so that you manually specify which graphics card to use. The best setup for that is to have the more powerful one used when the laptop power is plugged in
#1604 [17:55] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: I think it's a good idea to include the c660 case to gpu/discrete
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#1606 [17:58] <Dottiej> Anyone on here that can help me?
#1607 [17:58] <lutzee> If you tell us the problem
#1608 [17:59] <Dottiej> I just bought my account and started playing last week and I cant talk or trade with villagers
#1609 [17:59] <TheNoodle> That's coming in 1.3
#1610 [17:59] <Elystus> ^
#1611 [17:59] <TheNoodle> ...or later
#1612 [17:59] <lutzee> That feature does not appear until..... tomorrow
#1613 [17:59] <TheNoodle> point is, it's not in the current version
#1614 [18:00] <lutzee> tomorrow you will have a chance to update and gain these features
#1615 [18:00] <Dottiej> oh lol ok thanks so much
#1616 [18:00] <Dottiej> oh lol ok thanks so much
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#1618 [18:01] <DiskDaemon> Etho has been testing 1.3 though, and has a lot of villager trading info in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4fpFohSEJg
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#1620 [18:03] <DiskDaemon> back in a while
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#1622 [18:05] <sterrenman> He
#1623 [18:05] <sterrenman> When does 1.3 Come out?
#1624 [18:05] <Elystus> Hello :)
#1625 [18:05] <sterrenman> i want it soo baddd
#1626 [18:05] <Elystus> As Herogx and i said in #Minecraftforums: "It comes out tomorrow."
#1627 [18:05] <sterrenman> it is tomot=row
#1628 [18:05] <Elystus> or today depending on where you live.
#1629 [18:05] <sterrenman> its 0:05
#1630 [18:06] <sterrenman> tLol
#1631 [18:06] <tyteen4a03> sterrenman: not in US
#1632 [18:06] <sterrenman> it comes out when GTM +!?
#1633 [18:06] <sterrenman> +1
#1634 [18:06] <tyteen4a03> sure, it's 6am tomorrom morning here
#1635 [18:06] <tyteen4a03> doesn't mean it's tomorrow everywhere
#1636 [18:06] <Elystus> So it will come out today for you sterrenman.
#1637 [18:06] <tyteen4a03> ??< patient
#1638 [18:06] <sterrenman> i thought it was released on 00:00 1st august CET
#1639 [18:06] <tyteen4a03> ^we should have that factoid
#1640 [18:06] <sterrenman> :S
#1641 [18:07] <tyteen4a03> sterrenman: in reality, no
#1642 [18:07] <sterrenman> Cuz i just waited the whole night for it XD
#1643 [18:07] <sterrenman> now my grandma wants me to go to bed S:
#1644 [18:07] <sterrenman> Omfg DX
#1645 [18:07] <TheNoodle> hehe
#1646 [18:07] <sterrenman> K lets try again tomorow then :P
#1647 [18:07] <sterrenman> Bye folks :D
#1648 [18:08] <DopeGhoti> ??+ releasedate|The only date or time we can give you for the next release is "When it's done, and Mojang decides to release it."
#1649 [18:08] <Boreeas> ??> tyteen4a03 patience
#1650 [18:08] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03: (patience) Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#1651 [18:08] <VoxelHead> tyteen4a03: (patience) In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#1652 [18:09] <Elystus> \o/
#1653 [18:09] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: dammit
#1654 [18:09] <tyteen4a03> thanks DopeGhoti, for adding that
#1655 [18:09] <DopeGhoti> my pleasure
#1656 [18:09] <Boreeas> :P
#1657 [18:10] <tyteen4a03> now we have a full toolkit for new releases: releasedate, smp/recentupdate, patience
#1658 [18:10] <tyteen4a03> and maybe mc.net/down
#1659 [18:10] <tyteen4a03> g: your previous name was very descriptive
#1660 [18:11] <DopeGhoti> ??+ mc.net/status|See http://is.gd/HR8IdJ for the current status of the Minecraft web site.
#1661 [18:11] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: I won't say that's very accurate, because http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/google.com
#1662 [18:12] <tyteen4a03> s/accurate/reliable at times
#1663 [18:12] <Elystus> DopeGhoti: Um... help.mojang.com
#1664 [18:12] <lutzee> help.mojang.com shows all the statuses
#1665 [18:12] <tyteen4a03> help.mojang.com or even !isup is a better alternative
#1666 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> ??~ mc.net/status|See http://is.gd/oY7kmo for the current status of Mojang's web sites.
#1667 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> noted and fixed, thanks
#1668 [18:13] <Boreeas> Except if help.mojang.com goes down :D
#1669 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> well
#1670 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> that would be a reliable indicator
#1671 [18:13] <DopeGhoti> so it's still valid, if not as pretty
#1672 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> !isup
#1673 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> !isdown
#1674 [18:13] <GreyBot> tyteen4a03: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#1675 [18:13] <tyteen4a03> ^that works too
#1676 [18:14] <DopeGhoti> when GreyBot is here, yes.
#1677 [18:14] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03
#1678 [18:14] <Rikairchy> good morning
#1679 [18:14] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: hi
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#1681 [18:15] <Rikairchy> hi HATE
#1682 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> oh the nick
#1683 [18:15] <HATE> can someone help
#1684 [18:15] <Rikairchy> can you change your nick?
#1685 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> HATE: yes?
#1686 [18:15] <Rikairchy> not many are fond of all capitol nicks >.>
#1687 [18:15] <HATE> umm theres a problem
#1688 [18:15] <Rikairchy> obviously
#1689 [18:15] <Rikairchy> no one drops in these days to just say hi
#1690 [18:15] <HATE> hi
#1691 [18:15] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: I do D:
#1692 [18:16] <tyteen4a03> HATE: So, can we hear the problem?
#1693 [18:16] <HATE> yes
#1694 [18:16] <Boreeas> Rikairchy: Oh, I know, right? All those people calling themselves "Washington" and "London" and "Paris" and "Berlin" are annoying
#1695 [18:17] <HATE> umm when i was trying to perchase the game it said credit/debit card deposits disabled
#1696 [18:17] <HATE> ????
#1697 [18:17] <DopeGhoti> HATE: you will have to call your card issuer to ask them why they are declining the transaction
#1698 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> This something over which we have no authority or control.
#1699 [18:18] <Rikairchy> I am jeebus
#1700 [18:18] <Rikairchy> I has control of all
#1701 [18:18] <HATE> i did that already and they said nothing was wrong
#1702 [18:18] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: what do you call those debit cards that can be bought at walmart?
#1703 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Alternatively, look into using alternative payment methods, such as PayPal.
#1704 [18:18] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03: prepaid?
#1705 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: money sinks?
#1706 [18:18] <Rikairchy> green dot cards?
#1707 [18:18] <DopeGhoti> Those will not work.
#1708 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> also, they are a pointless waste of money
#1709 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> never, ever, ever get a CC with a monthly or annual fee.
#1710 [18:19] <HATE> gosh i am always having problems trying to buy minecraft:(
#1711 [18:19] <Rikairchy> your mom has an anual fee xD
#1712 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: all credit cards comes with a annual fee here...
#1713 [18:19] <Rikairchy> HATE: just try paypal
#1714 [18:19] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03: not here
#1715 [18:19] <DopeGhoti> tyteen4a03: define 'here'.
#1716 [18:19] <Rikairchy> china
#1717 [18:19] <tyteen4a03> Hong Kong
#1718 [18:19] <HATE> but it is in yuros
#1719 [18:20] <HATE> the money
#1720 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> HATE: PayPal can fund in any currency.
#1721 [18:20] <Rikairchy> HATE: it works
#1722 [18:20] <Rikairchy> I did it once before
#1723 [18:20] <DopeGhoti> also: Eruo, not Yuro.
#1724 [18:20] <HATE> i guees ill try be back in a sec
#1725 [18:20] <tyteen4a03> probably those MasterCard plantium membership that helps you to get seats in hard-to-book restaurants
#1726 [18:20] <tyteen4a03> but still, every kind of credit card here requires you to pay an annual fee afaik
#1727 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> Well, that's a shame.
#1728 [18:21] <DopeGhoti> Presuming that PayPal is not on the far side of the Great Firewall of China, you could get a PayPal CC; those are feeless.
#1729 [18:22] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: I am in Hong Kong, so I am not inside GFC
#1730 [18:22] <tyteen4a03> don't think they are offered here, let me check
#1731 [18:22] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03: http://stormb.it/khrz2-
#1732 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> oh wait, they do
#1733 [18:23] <Rikairchy> DopeGhoti
#1734 [18:23] <Rikairchy> don't you mean a debit card?
#1735 [18:23] <Rikairchy> not a credit card?
#1736 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: they offer both
#1737 [18:23] <Rikairchy> wtf.
#1738 [18:23] <Rikairchy> really?
#1739 [18:23] <Rikairchy> since when?
#1740 [18:23] <tyteen4a03> I dunno
#1741 [18:24] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1742 [18:24] <Rikairchy> bbs
#1743 [18:24] <Rikairchy> going to test a stick of RAM
#1744 [18:24] <tyteen4a03> the credit cards companies here in hong kong does offer a lot of perks at everywhere and no-interest installment plans though
#1745 [18:24] <tyteen4a03> s/does/do
#1746 [18:25] <DopeGhoti> also, apropos of earlier, AmEx is a charge card; not a credit card.
#1747 [18:25] <HATE> damn i didnt work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1748 [18:26] <HATE> thats y my name is hate
#1749 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> ?? dont/tweet
#1750 [18:26] <VoxelHead> dont/tweet: IRC has a very generous limit on the length of its messages. Please, for the sake of our sanity, use complete words, such as 'you', 'one', and 'are', and not 'u', '1', and 'r'.
#1751 [18:26] <tyteen4a03> ?? dont/spam
#1752 [18:26] <VoxelHead> dont/spam: We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#1753 [18:26] <DopeGhoti> now: When you say 'it didn't work', what exactly do you mean?
#1754 [18:26] <HATE> i have been trying to buy this game for months
#1755 [18:27] <HATE> damn i didnt work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1756 [18:27] <Rikairchy> dude stop, please.
#1757 [18:27] <Rikairchy> less exclamation, all it does is irritate
#1758 [18:28] <HATE> ok
#1759 [18:28] <Rikairchy> and "it didn't work" doesn't. help
#1760 [18:28] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: ??> dont/spam
#1761 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> Are you going to answer our questions, or just wring your hands and gnash your teeth?
#1762 [18:28] <Rikairchy> stfu tyteen4a03 >.>
#1763 [18:28] <tyteen4a03> D:
#1764 [18:28] <DopeGhoti> Rikairchy: Calm yourself.
#1765 [18:28] <Rikairchy> :|
#1766 [18:28] <HATE> sorry i am angry that i cant buy the game
#1767 [18:29] <Rikairchy> and we are trying to help.
#1768 [18:29] <Rikairchy> taking it out on us is the opposite of what you want to do
#1769 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> HATE: for the second time: When you tried last to purchase the game, presumable using PayPal, what exactly happened?
#1770 [18:29] <HATE> am not am sorry
#1771 [18:29] <DopeGhoti> presumably, even
#1772 [18:30] <HATE> failed
#1773 [18:30] <Rikairchy> with what error?
#1774 [18:30] <HATE> i am sorry my mistake
#1775 [18:30] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#1776 [18:30] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1777 [18:30] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1778 [18:31] <HATE> there was an error processing the payment :(
#1779 [18:31] <Rikairchy> any error codes?
#1780 [18:31] <Rikairchy> do you have enough money on your account to pay for it?
#1781 [18:31] <Rikairchy> s/on/in
#1782 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> Did you use PayPal, or did you use another method?
#1783 [18:31] <HATE> umm more than enogh
#1784 [18:31] <DopeGhoti> There is a reason we suggested using PayPal.
#1785 [18:31] <HATE> i used pay
#1786 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> It will have said more, then, than simply "There was an error".
#1787 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> once again:
#1788 [18:32] <DopeGhoti> ?? specific
#1789 [18:32] <VoxelHead> specific: Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#1790 [18:32] <VoxelHead> specific: NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#1791 [18:32] <HATE> umm thats all it did
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#1793 [18:33] <Rikairchy> did paypal give the error?
#1794 [18:33] <HATE> thats all it saisd cant be more specific if thats all it said
#1795 [18:33] <HATE> said
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#1797 [18:33] <Rikairchy> was it paypal or minecraft.net
#1798 [18:33] <Rikairchy> that couldn't process it
#1799 [18:33] <aever> So, I updated my BIOS and graphic card
#1800 [18:33] <HATE> i used paypal
#1801 [18:33] <aever> and it still starts lagging after a few minutes then crashes
#1802 [18:33] <aever> any other fixes?
#1803 [18:34] <Logan> does anyone know how much memory my xbox 360 would need to download minecraft?
#1804 [18:34] <aever> not very much
#1805 [18:34] <HATE> rikairchy u there
#1806 [18:34] <aever> I have it for xbox and I have to say, it is more enjoyable than PC version
#1807 [18:35] <Logan> thx
#1808 [18:35] <aever> less than a gb
#1809 [18:35] <HATE> aever whats ur gametag
#1810 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> aever: that's a matter of taste, really.
#1811 [18:36] <aever> aever is my gamertag
#1812 [18:36] <HATE> is there a number i can call 4 support
#1813 [18:36] <HATE> going to add u
#1814 [18:36] <aever> And, I prefer xbox because you get into it, it is easier to navigate, and no bugs
#1815 [18:36] <aever> okay sounds good
#1816 [18:36] <aever> I won't be on until saturday though
#1817 [18:37] <aever> I'm on vacation
#1818 [18:37] <HATE> ohh
#1819 [18:37] <aever> With PC, I can't even play it
#1820 [18:37] <HATE> any caps
#1821 [18:37] <aever> nope
#1822 [18:37] <aever> just aever
#1823 [18:38] <HATE> r u hunter
#1824 [18:38] <aever> yep
#1825 [18:38] <aever> haha
#1826 [18:38] <aever> you found me
#1827 [18:38] <HATE> yea
#1828 [18:38] <HATE> my gt is EXPERT XX
#1829 [18:38] <aever> okay, I'll send you an invite when i get on
#1830 [18:38] <HATE> SO THATS ME
#1831 [18:39] <HATE> KOOL
#1832 [18:39] <aever> So, does anyone know how to fix the problem I am currently having? I log on and it works great, but then in about 3 minutes it starts lagging. After about 30 seconds of lagging, it permanently freezes.
#1833 [18:40] <HATE> ii wish i could play minecraft on pc but i cant buy it :l
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#1835 [18:40] <HATE> nothing but errors
#1836 [18:40] <xales> aever: How much RAM do you have?
#1837 [18:41] <aever> 4gb
#1838 [18:41] <aever> ram isn't a problem
#1839 [18:41] <aever> I can run skyrim without trouble
#1840 [18:41] <xales> Are you using any mods/texture packs?
#1841 [18:41] <aever> Nope
#1842 [18:41] <HATE> hey i was just playing that on the 360
#1843 [18:41] <aever> I just got it
#1844 [18:42] <HATE> aever am only level 7
#1845 [18:42] <xales> HATE: This channel is not for general chatter. If it's not help-related, please take it elsewhere.
#1846 [18:43] <HATE> i need but no one help me
#1847 [18:43] <HATE> :(
#1848 [18:43] <xales> aever: Try uninstalling every version of Java that you may have installed, and then downloading the latest version from java.com
#1849 [18:43] <xales> HATE: We can't help you if you don't tell us what the problem is.
#1850 [18:43] <HATE> i did
#1851 [18:43] <aever> Thank you, xales.
#1852 [18:43] <aever> I will try that
#1853 [18:43] <HATE> cant buy minecraft all i get is errors
#1854 [18:44] <xales> HATE: If you don't tell us exactly what the errors are, then we can't help you.
#1855 [18:45] <HATE> there was an error processing the payment (paypal)
#1856 [18:45] <HATE> all it said
#1857 [18:45] <xales> HATE: Are you trying to use a gift card?
#1858 [18:45] <HATE> no visa
#1859 [18:46] <xales> Does the card have a name embossed on it (such as your own, or your parents)?
#1860 [18:46] <xales> Or does it have some generic text where a name *would* be if it was a proper card?
#1861 [18:46] <HATE> it has a name on the card
#1862 [18:47] <xales> Is it your card, or does it belong to your parents?
#1863 [18:47] <HATE> grandmother
#1864 [18:48] <xales> You'll have to ask her to call the financial institution that issued the card, and find out why the transaction is being denied.
#1865 [18:48] <HATE> we did that
#1866 [18:48] <HATE> and they said there were no problems
#1867 [18:48] <xales> Well, obviously, there is.
#1868 [18:49] <xales> Either that, or you aren't entering the card information correctly.
#1869 [18:49] <HATE> i know but i dont know what it is
#1870 [18:49] <xales> That's why you have to ask the bank.
#1871 [18:49] <xales> Or try using a different card, or a different payment processor.
#1872 [18:49] <HATE> umm let me try that
#1873 [18:50] <HATE> we have no other card we can use
#1874 [18:50] <xales> Then try a different payment processor.
#1875 [18:50] <xales> If it also denies the card, then the problem is with the bank.
#1876 [18:51] <HATE> umm i try doing that just entering the info of the card and it gave me a diff error
#1877 [18:51] <xales> What error, specifically?
#1878 [18:52] <HATE> closed the page
#1879 [18:52] <xales> That's very helpful.
#1880 [18:52] <HATE> i know :1
#1881 [18:53] <HATE> here i am going to see if i can perchase the game
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#1883 [18:54] <aever> is i have an x32 java when im running on a x64, could that harm my minecraft game?
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#1885 [18:55] <tyteen4a03> aever: it could
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#1887 [18:56] <HATE> card deposits disabled same i enjoy errors -_-
#1888 [18:56] <tyteen4a03> aever: if you're going to play minecraft on the standalone launcher, get the 64bit version and uninstall the 32bit version
#1889 [18:56] <tyteen4a03> aever: there are only some rare cases where the 32bit version of java is ever necessary
#1890 [18:56] <HATE> xales thats the 1
#1891 [18:57] <xales> HATE: It says "card deposits disabled"?
#1892 [18:57] <aever> so replace 32 with 64?
#1893 [18:57] <HATE> yes
#1894 [18:58] <HATE> just saying am using a debit card
#1895 [18:59] <xales> HATE: You need to call your bank and ask them why you are getting that error.
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#1897 [18:59] <SmokeSpectre> I kinda need help
#1898 [18:59] <HATE> thanks 4 the help
#1899 [19:00] <aever> tyteen, how do i uninstall the 32 version?
#1900 [19:01] <SmokeSpectre> My Minecraft had run perfectly on medium settings for almost a year, now it is pretty much unplayable. I have re-installed it many times to try and fix the probem but the lag isn't going away.
#1901 [19:02] <aever> ^
#1902 [19:02] <xales> SmokeSpectre: Have you tried reducing the settings, closing every other program on your computer while playing, disabling antivirus software (which can interfere and makes games run slower)?
#1903 [19:03] <SmokeSpectre> I have tried everything but disabling the anti-virus software, I'll try and do that.
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#1906 [19:04] <SmokeSpectre> My anti-virus softwar has been around as long as my Minecraft, so I'm not really sure that is the problem, I'll try anyways.
#1907 [19:06] <DopeGhoti> SmokeSpectre: the most constant misstatement when dealing with this sort of problem is the assertion that "nothing has changed". Clearly something has changed that is causing the slower performance. Whether it's your antimalware software is sertainly debateable, but we have to attempt to isolate all possible variables.
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#1909 [19:10] <SmokeSpectre> I disabled my anti-virus software and tested my client, nothing has improved. Would running 'Disk Optimisation' help at all?
#1910 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> it's possible; minecraft's save files can be pretty expansive. however, I'd be ware of third-party "disk optimisation"
#1911 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> I'd lean more toward a simple defrag
#1912 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> before you do that, though:
#1913 [19:10] <DopeGhoti> ?? specs
#1914 [19:10] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
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#1916 [19:11] <KingTy21> can someone help me?
#1917 [19:12] <tyteen4a03> KingTy21: yes?
#1918 [19:13] <KingTy21> i have alot of mods installed and they all work untill i go mining. i get all these red blocks and when i mine them thay are called ruby block(Redpower)
#1919 [19:13] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#1920 [19:13] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1921 [19:13] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1922 [19:14] <KingTy21> k thanks
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#1924 [19:21] <SmokeSpectre> I just did Disk Optimisation through Norton, it didn't help. I'll get my spect up in a second.
#1925 [19:22] <xales> SmokeSpectre: Uhh, yeah, Norton.
#1926 [19:22] <xales> There's your problem right there.
#1927 [19:23] <SmokeSpectre> But Norton has been on my computer for as long as my Minecraft, what do you think I should do?
#1928 [19:23] <xales> Norton is known to do more harm to your computer than the things it is supposedly protecting you aginst.
#1929 [19:23] <xales> I'd highly suggest removing it, replacing it with Microsoft Security Essentials (which is free, and likely already on your computer)
#1930 [19:24] <SmokeSpectre> Do you think it will fix the problem? Or is it too late?
#1931 [19:24] <xales> It could very well fix the problem. Norton causes problems with everything. I guarantee it will make a noticable difference in the computer's performance, which may extend to Minecraft.
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#1933 [19:25] <SmokeSpectre> Alright, I will give it a try. If nothing happens I will say.
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#1935 [19:29] <tyteen4a03> xales: Microsoft Security Essentials
#1936 [19:29] <tyteen4a03> really
#1937 [19:30] <xales> tyteen4a03: Yes...?
#1938 [19:30] <tyteen4a03> xales: why microsoft security essentials
#1939 [19:30] <CrusaderDeleters> MSE is good.
#1940 [19:30] <xales> tyteen4a03: Because it works well enough, cheats by using Microsoft APIs to get better performance than everything else, and is just what we recommend here. :p
#1941 [19:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Malwarebytes is also great.
#1942 [19:31] <tyteen4a03> xales: it has the highest threat missing rate (7%, compared to 3.something% average)
#1943 [19:31] <xales> CrusaderDeleters: It is if you aren't a "high-risk user," or are willing to pay. :p
#1944 [19:31] <tyteen4a03> or 17%, I forgot
#1945 [19:32] <xales> tyteen4a03: There's such a thing as "good enough"
#1946 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm somewhat high-risk.
#1947 [19:32] <tyteen4a03> xales: I guess that works
#1948 [19:32] <tyteen4a03> but why not avast
#1949 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I never trust any of that avast or norton crap.
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#1951 [19:32] <CrusaderDeleters> I believe that they don't protect enough.
#1952 [19:32] <xales> Users need education, not programs such as those.
#1953 [19:32] <xales> I've never used an antimalware/antivirus program.
#1954 [19:32] <xales> And I've never had any issues.
#1955 [19:32] <xales> And I've never had any issues.
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#1957 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Xales is either just plain lucky, just plain smart, or both. :D
#1958 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> I had some bad points with my computer.
#1959 [19:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Every time my computer outbursted with infection is when I never used MSE or Malwarebytes.
#1960 [19:33] <xales> Well, I rarely use Windows, as well. But even so, unless you're running some vulnerable software, you have to actually execute something for it to run.
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#1962 [19:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Malwarebytes caught an infection before it happened. <3 to MB. C:
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#1966 [19:37] <SmokeSpectre> I'll be right back, I need to restart my laptop
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#1969 [20:11] <|Anthony|> !check mcrpg.servegame.com
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#1973 [20:16] <SmokeSpectre> Alright, I'm back
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#1975 [20:18] <SmokeSpectre> I have uninstalled Norton and added MSE, nothing has changed on Minecraft
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#1979 [20:26] <grizzly125> is there a number to contact someone for tech support?
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#1981 [20:34] <Denizen> 555-555-5555
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#1984 [20:40] <nickb> need help downloading game, made purachse but did not download, when go to download credit card was already charged
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#1986 [20:42] <nickb> is there a phone number to call to help
#1987 [20:44] <Rikairchy> 0.0
#1988 [20:44] <Rikairchy> no.
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#1990 [20:48] <SmokeSpectre> Okay, I uninstalled Java as I noticed I am meant to have a 64bit version. I had a 32bit. I'm running Minecraft almost like before, just might take some time to speed up :P Thank you very much for the help :D
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#1992 [20:50] <SmokeSpectre> In fact I just noticed that I run 'Far' way better than I run 'Tiny', there may be a problem with the fog in my client
#1993 [20:50] <Rikairchy> sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
#1994 [20:51] <sam_> It seems like Minecraft is trying to run in 32bit even though my Java is 64
#1995 [20:51] <sam_> (.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
#1996 [20:51] <sam_> )
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#1998 [20:53] <Rikairchy> force update
#1999 [20:53] <sam_> I did, and I tried removing .minecraft/bin/*
#2000 [20:53] <sam_> $ java -version
#2001 [20:53] <sam_> java version "1.7.0_03"
#2002 [20:53] <sam_> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.1.1pre) (7~u3-2.1.1~pre1-1ubuntu3)
#2003 [20:53] <sam_> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 22.0-b10, mixed mode)
#2004 [20:53] <Rikairchy> sweeeeeeeet
#2005 [20:53] <sam_> oops
#2006 [20:53] <sam_> forgot pastebin
#2007 [20:53] <sam_> sorry
#2008 [20:54] <Rikairchy> a *nix user <3
#2009 [20:54] <sam_> <3
#2010 [20:54] <Rikairchy> alrighty
#2011 [20:54] <sam_> I managed to have it working before with OpenJDK 6 but updated for other things and bam. Some export hack with a folder in /opt which is now empty
#2012 [20:55] <sam_> I mean, I don't really want to run 32bit or Sun Java (or both) unless I have to
#2013 [20:55] <sam_> i'm all for open source
#2014 [20:55] <Rikairchy> install 32 and 64 of openJDK
#2015 [20:55] <Rikairchy> " It does indeed mean that the app is trying to use a 32-bit binary in a 64 bit environment. "
#2016 [20:55] <sam_> That's evil
#2017 [20:56] <Rikairchy> :(
#2018 [20:56] <sam_> I'm not sure if I can even do that with packages, I'll end up having to compile it or something and thus releasing the apt kraken (I've broken many Debian/RHEL based systems with that)
#2019 [20:56] <Rikairchy> no
#2020 [20:56] <sam_> I had it working with OpenJDK 6 64bit IIRC
#2021 [20:57] <Rikairchy> hold on
#2022 [20:57] <sam_> alright
#2023 [20:57] <Rikairchy> i just took my ambien
#2024 [20:57] <Rikairchy> so its hittin fairly hard
#2025 [20:57] <sam_> okay
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#2027 [21:00] <Rikairchy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/110852/can-i-install-a-32-bit-java-in-addition-to-a-64-bit-version
#2028 [21:00] <Rikairchy> try that
#2029 [21:00] <Rikairchy> best i can do
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#2031 [21:01] <sam_> Considering apt can't find java-package
#2032 [21:01] <sam_> this will be a fun night
#2033 [21:06] <DopeGhoti> sam_: which distro?
#2034 [21:06] <sam_> Ubuntu 12.04(I think that's latest, it's the latest anyhow)
#2035 [21:09] <DopeGhoti> sam_: here you go: http://www.gaggl.com/2012/04/installing-java6-jdk-on-ubuntu-12-04/
#2036 [21:09] <sam_> DopeGhoti: I don't necessarily want it. I'd like it to all work with OpenJDK 7 64bit.
#2037 [21:09] <sam_> DopeGhoti: I really don't want to use a closed source, older, and possibly 32bit version when I shouldn't have to.
#2038 [21:10] <sam_> DopeGhoti: The first two bits are worst than the last though.
#2039 [21:10] <DopeGhoti> understandable
#2040 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> openjdk-6-jre should have 64-bit binaries for you
#2041 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> wait, you _want_ to use 7?
#2042 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> keeping in mind:
#2043 [21:11] <sam_> Why wouldn't I?
#2044 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1
#2045 [21:11] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1.7
#2046 [21:11] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#2047 [21:11] <sam_> Did not know this
#2048 [21:12] <DopeGhoti> that said, the package openjdk-7-jre is also available
#2049 [21:12] <sam_> I have that
#2050 [21:12] <sam_> I have OpenJDK 7 totally working with other things and all
#2051 [21:12] <sam_> It's the game library that bails out
#2052 [21:13] <sam_> I mean, I think OpenJDK 6 would break some development I'm doing, that's not as much of a big deal, kinda sucks but can be dealt with
#2053 [21:13] <sam_> It's just really awkward haha
#2054 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> you can have both 6 and 7 installed
#2055 [21:13] <sam_> Don't I have to use export hackery?
#2056 [21:13] <DopeGhoti> you use update-alternatives to select which one to use by default
#2057 [21:14] <sam_> Alrighty
#2058 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> and explicitly path to the binary you want to use in edge cases
#2059 [21:14] <sam_> How do I go about installing 6?
#2060 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
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#2062 [21:14] <sam_> openjdk-6-jre is already the newest version.
#2063 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> great! it's already installed
#2064 [21:14] <DopeGhoti> sudo update-alternatives --config java
#2065 [21:14] <sam_> alright
#2066 [21:14] <sam_> 4 options
#2067 [21:15] <DopeGhoti> Pick the one you want to be used by defaut for unpathed instantiation of `java`
#2068 [21:15] <sam_> OpenJDK 6 64bit x2, OpenJDK 6 64bit and Java 7 Oracle x86
#2069 [21:15] <sam_> I guess I'll pick one of the first two
#2070 [21:16] <sam_> alright, so is there an ETA on this working with Java 7?
#2071 [21:16] <sam_> It's working, also!
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#2073 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> yay for it working (:
#2074 [21:16] <slvrsprk> .
#2075 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> as for an eta
#2076 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> ?? releasedate
#2077 [21:16] <VoxelHead> releasedate: The only date or time we can give you for the next release is "When it's done, and Mojang decides to release it."
#2078 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> hopefully 1.3 will play nice with Java 1.7
#2079 [21:16] <DopeGhoti> time will tell
#2080 [21:17] <slvrsprk> What's the command to resister my nick here?
#2081 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> ??> slvrsprk irc
#2082 [21:17] <VoxelHead> slvrsprk: (irc) For IRC help, you should ask in the channel #help - you can get there using the command "/join #help"
#2083 [21:17] <VoxelHead> slvrsprk: (irc) If you can't talk in #minecraft ("Cannot send to channel") you must register your IRC nickname, using the command "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email". Remember to use a valid email. Go to #help if you need further assistance with this
#2084 [21:18] <slvrsprk> ohhhh, nickserv. Dumb me
#2085 [21:19] <sam_> we can but hope
#2086 [21:20] <slvrsprk> thanks man, i did it!
#2087 [21:21] <slvrsprk> Hello everyone, i'm new here.
#2088 [21:21] <sam_> Hi
#2089 [21:21] <slvrsprk> ops
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#2091 [21:21] <slvrsprk> what kind of help is to be found here?
#2092 [21:21] <slvrsprk> ingame help ?
#2093 [21:21] <sam_> I think it depends on the problem
#2094 [21:21] <DopeGhoti> slvrsprk: generally technical assistance, but we offer in-game tips too
#2095 [21:22] <DopeGhoti> ?? telepathy
#2096 [21:22] <VoxelHead> telepathy: We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#2097 [21:23] <slvrsprk> ohh, nice. No, i have no problem, i'm just new here.
#2098 [21:24] * DopeGhoti nods
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#2099 [21:28] <Dragonkkealk> hi
#2100 [21:28] <Dragonkkealk> can I get mod help here?
#2101 [21:33] <tyteen4a03> ??> Dragonkkealk mods
#2102 [21:33] <VoxelHead> Dragonkkealk: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2103 [21:33] <VoxelHead> Dragonkkealk: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2104 [21:34] <Dragonkkealk> dang oh well
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#2106 [21:41] <Nolan> i just bought this game and it wont even let me play?!
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#2108 [21:47] <Matrix3081> hi
#2109 [21:47] <Matrix3081> how good is minecraft for a begginer at it
#2110 [21:48] <Matrix3081> i am asking before i buy it
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#2112 [21:49] <clarjon1> For a beginner? Well, I started playing minecraft as a beginner at it
#2113 [21:49] <clarjon1> You punch blocks, build shelter, fight monsters.
#2114 [21:50] <clarjon1> You can also play with friends on multiplayer servers
#2115 [21:50] <Matrix3081> Is it worth the cost for pc
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#2118 [21:50] <clarjon1> I've been playing it for a couple years now
#2119 [21:50] <clarjon1> I'd say it is.
#2120 [21:50] <Admin_ninjakitty2> one.three comes out tomorrow
#2121 [21:50] <clarjon1> It's an addicting game -- you only pay once.
#2122 [21:50] <Admin_ninjakitty2> yeah
#2123 [21:50] <clarjon1> Admin_ninjakitty2: that's the rumor.
#2124 [21:50] <Matrix3081> i am wanting to get both for xbox and pc.
#2125 [21:51] <Admin_ninjakitty2> no its true
#2126 [21:51] <Eddie> I've had more fun being an admin on a server than actually playing the game for real.
#2127 [21:51] <Eddie> lol
#2128 [21:51] <Admin_ninjakitty2> wha does the plus sign mean
#2129 [21:51] <Admin_ninjakitty2> before your name
#2130 [21:52] <Matrix3081> so i have a account for minecraft, and i want to get both xbox and pc verison is both of them worth it, to combine the two. Or do i have to pay a monthly fee to keep minecraft for pc
#2131 [21:52] <Matrix3081> so i have a account for minecraft, and i want to get both xbox and pc verison is both of them worth it, to combine the two. Or do i have to pay a monthly fee to keep minecraft for pc
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#2133 [21:55] <Matrix3081> Anyone there
#2134 [22:00] <Smanly> There is only a one time fee for the PC version.
#2135 [22:03] <Matrix3081> so if i buy both of xbox and pc minecraft it is a one time fee for both. what happens if i lose my computer
#2136 [22:09] <Matrix3081> how long can i play minecraft 1.0 with my download i got from the website
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#2138 [22:11] <Swift> hello?
#2139 [22:18] <Matrix3081> hi
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#2142 [22:25] <mib_v69b8v> noob question: who wants to help me?
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#2155 [23:15] <force> anybody there?
#2156 [23:15] <force> i need help
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#2161 [23:47] <henry> hello
#2162 [23:47] <Arle> Hello
#2163 [23:49] <henry> my problem is that i don't have accelerated open gl drivers i've already updated my video drivers can you he;p me
#2164 [23:49] <henry> *help
#2165 [23:50] <henry> can anyone help me
#2166 [23:51] <|Anthony|> !check mcrpg.servegame.com
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#2168 [23:55] <jake2258> how come when i try to log in to minecraft it goes through but stays on a black screen
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#2170 [23:57] <jake2258> how come when i try to log in to minecraft it goes through but stays on a black screen
#2171 [23:57] <Arle> Do you have mods in it?
#2172 [23:59] <Arle> Try a force update, and see if it still black-screens.
#2173 [23:59] <jake2258> i have no mods, ok i will try