#MinecraftHelp > 2012-08-01
#1 [00:00] <xales> jake2258: Update your video card driver.
#2 [00:01] <xales> henry: If you've updated the driver from the correct place, then your computer may be incapable of running Minecraft.
#3 [00:01] * xales is going to bed
#3 [00:02] <jake2258> i force updated and it showed the loading screen for a second than went black, how do i update my video card driver
#4 [00:04] <henry> xales: i got the most recent drivers from intel. do you think i need a accelerated driver?
#5 [00:06] <jake2258> i force updated and it showed the loading screen for a second than went black, how do i update my video card driver
#6 [00:08] <Arle> You can usually get drivers from your video card manufacturer's website.
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#14 [01:44] <Rein> Hello
#15 [01:44] <Calinou> hi
#16 [01:44] <Rein> some help needed please:)
#17 [01:44] <Rein> Am i at the right place_
#18 [01:44] <Rein> ?
#19 [01:45] <Calinou> yes
#20 [01:45] <Rein> I just bought the game, and clicked on download
#21 [01:45] <Rein> but seems like I am on the browser version
#22 [01:45] <Rein> keep getting stuck
#23 [01:45] <Calinou> are you using AVG? if so disable the link scanner module
#24 [01:46] <Calinou> also, the launcher is here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe (windows) and here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.zip (mac)
#25 [01:47] <Rein> Ok, when I loggin there, I go straight to the game? that is correct? No need to download any furhter? File is only like 170 kb
#26 [01:48] <Calinou> download the launcher, then log in using username/password.
#27 [01:48] <Rein> 273 kb actually. yes, that is done
#28 [01:48] <Calinou> then, the _game_ files will be downloaded, which are about 3MB for the core game files, and 35MB for the resources (sounds), which are downloaded in runtie
#29 [01:48] <Calinou> runtime*
#30 [01:49] <Rein> Nothing is dowloaded, takes 1 sec to open the game, is that correct? I mean as soon as I log in, the game launches
#31 [01:51] <Rein> Sorry if you have to go down some levels of intellect here:P not such a PC "freak":P
#32 [01:52] <Calinou> the game starts pretty quickly, yes, only a few files to load
#33 [01:52] <Calinou> much faster than most of today's games ;)
#34 [01:52] <Calinou> if the game is stuck at "done loading" tell me
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#36 [01:53] <Rein> hehe ok. My PC is pretty new, and pretty ok, so shouldnt be the problem. I can play, but it gets stuck alot,
#37 [01:54] <Rein> Specially when digging/placing blocks
#38 [01:55] <zohanwizard> i need help with my minecraft it is like using a crud ton of memory like no tomorrow and i don't know if that is just what happens or if its a problem
#39 [01:56] <zohanwizard> does anyone know what might be happening im lost here
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#41 [02:00] <zohanwizard> hello can anyone help me
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#44 [02:01] <tylerm> when does minecraft 1,3 c ome out
#45 [02:01] <Ethan> when does the 1.3 update come out today?
#46 [02:02] <tylerm> mincraft 1.3
#47 [02:02] <tylerm> minecraft
#48 [02:03] <Ethan> anyone know?
#49 [02:06] <Calinou> noone knows
#50 [02:06] <Calinou> patience is a virtue
#51 [02:06] <Ethan> true that
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#53 [02:06] <Stephen> y am i banned under #minecraft
#54 [02:07] <Calinou> you need to be registered to nickserv to talk in #minecraft
#55 [02:07] <Calinou> see /ns register
#56 [02:07] <Stephen> i c... so newho, is there an exact ETA for 1.3 official?
#57 [02:07] <Calinou> /ns register your_password your_email
#58 [02:07] <Calinou> then check your email
#59 [02:08] <Calinou> Stephen, nope, it will be released in august 1st probably, but the exact time is unknown
#60 [02:08] <Stephen> ok. i was JW cause its august 1st here. i didnt know if it was like england time or what
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#63 [02:18] <ultimatespec> hello
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#65 [02:18] <ultimatespec> anyone know when 1.3.1 is coming out cause i do, i calculated it'll be out in 10 hours
#66 [02:19] <Guitarguy1133> i have 1.3.1 pre release
#67 [02:19] <Guitarguy1133> its out already
#68 [02:19] <ultimatespec> yeah the pre-release
#69 [02:19] <Guitarguy1133> u didnt specify.
#70 [02:19] <ultimatespec> not the actual one
#71 [02:20] <Guitarguy1133> i hear its pretty much gonna be the same. just a few tweaks here and there. it'll proll be 1.3.2
#72 [02:20] <Guitarguy1133> or 1.3.1.1
#73 [02:20] <Guitarguy1133> prolly 1.3.2
#74 [02:20] <Guitarguy1133> or 1.3.1a
#75 [02:20] <ultimatespec> no... jeb_ said it going to be called 1.3.1
#76 [02:21] <Guitarguy1133> u mean jens?
#77 [02:22] <Guitarguy1133> jeb is his twitter name/ initials
#78 [02:24] <Guitarguy1133> the olympics r retarded... its just an excuse to be like o look at me im better than u at swinging on bars
#79 [02:24] <Guitarguy1133> or im faster than u at swimming and running and jumping
#80 [02:24] <Guitarguy1133> who cares...
#81 [02:27] <Elystus> Guitarguy1133: Well that is a pesimistic way to look at it.
#82 [02:27] <Guitarguy1133> i just think its a waste of time and money
#83 [02:28] <Guitarguy1133> like those olympians who got sent home for beign retarded on twitter... thats their mentality
#84 [02:28] <Guitarguy1133> they just wanna prove theyre better than every1 else
#85 [02:28] <Elystus> In some ways yes.
#86 [02:28] <Guitarguy1133> its like nerd rage for jocks lol
#87 [02:29] <Elystus> But if you see it that way, then everything humans do is to be better than others...
#88 [02:29] <Calinou> it will be pretty much the same, Guitarguy1133, yes
#89 [02:29] <Calinou> releasing is an HUGE work
#90 [02:29] <Elystus> Which is true in a semse.
#91 [02:30] <Guitarguy1133> im excited for 1.3 i downloaded the pre release and ive been tryin to find a practical use for tripwires..
#92 [02:31] <Guitarguy1133> traps is really the only thing i can find em useful for.
#93 [02:31] <tylerm> when does 1.3 come out
#94 [02:31] <Guitarguy1133> aug.1
#95 [02:31] <tylerm> yeah today is aug 1st
#96 [02:31] <tylerm> when
#97 [02:31] <Guitarguy1133> sometime in the next 24-48 hours (depending on ur region)
#98 [02:31] <tylerm> us
#99 [02:31] <ultimatespec> guitar piston doors?
#100 [02:31] <tylerm> united stated
#101 [02:32] <Guitarguy1133> ah piston doors... didnt thnk of that.
#102 [02:32] <tylerm> what time united states
#103 [02:32] <Guitarguy1133> i currently have pressure plates activating my piston doors... thatd be nice
#104 [02:32] <Guitarguy1133> there is no time
#105 [02:32] <Guitarguy1133> whenever it gets finished
#106 [02:32] <ultimatespec> tyler if your in australia on the east side of Australia its 2am 1 am for the west side of Australia in some parts of america it'll be 2pm
#107 [02:32] <Elystus> ??< index
#108 [02:33] <ultimatespec> so 10hours from now
#109 [02:33] <tylerm> elystus what time 1.3 out in untied states
#110 [02:33] <ultimatespec> if you calculate 10 hours from then time it is now you'll get your time
#111 [02:33] <Elystus> ?? releases
#112 [02:33] <VoxelHead> releases: Information on current and forthcoming releases can be found here: http://is.gd/V7siwh
#113 [02:33] <Elystus> Wrong one
#114 [02:33] <Guitarguy1133> ?? releases
#115 [02:33] <VoxelHead> releases: Information on current and forthcoming releases can be found here: http://is.gd/V7siwh
#116 [02:34] <Guitarguy1133> book marking that page...
#117 [02:34] <Elystus> tylerm: There is no set time. It is when they finish it, or decide to release it.
#118 [02:34] <Elystus> Guitarguy1133: http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#119 [02:34] <Elystus> That one is better, I just needed the index since a factoid was added today and couldn't remember what it was.
#120 [02:35] <Guitarguy1133> lol gotcha
#121 [02:35] <Ethan> i want 1.3
#122 [02:35] <Elystus> Ethan: Just wait, begging won't make it come faster.
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#124 [02:36] <Guitarguy1133> i think mojang and bukkit should collaborate...
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#126 [02:36] <tylerm> 1.3
#127 [02:36] <Elystus> They do -.-
#128 [02:36] <tylerm> 1.3
#129 [02:36] <tylerm> 1.
#130 [02:36] <tylerm> 3
#131 [02:36] <Guitarguy1133> i mean like merge
#132 [02:36] <tylerm> 1.3
#133 [02:36] <tylerm> 1.3
#134 [02:36] <tylerm> 1.3
#135 [02:36] <tylerm> 1.3
#136 [02:36] <Guitarguy1133> tyler ur annoying
#137 [02:37] <Elystus> Guitarguy1133: Bukkit employees are now hired by Mojang.
#138 [02:37] <Guitarguy1133> o rly?
#139 [02:37] <Guitarguy1133> didnt know that
#140 [02:37] <Elystus> tylerm: Stop with the spam :/
#141 [02:37] <Elystus> Guitarguy1133: Not many people seem to know that :/
#142 [02:37] <tylerm> sorry i just want 1.3 saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
#143 [02:37] <Elystus> All people seem to care about are Jeb and Notch
#144 [02:37] <Elystus> And Mollstam too.
#145 [02:38] <Guitarguy1133> i just follow them on twitter hoping tog et hints of updates
#146 [02:38] <Guitarguy1133> but i never do
#147 [02:38] <ShaRose> wait till it's out
#148 [02:38] <Elystus> Not even they know really :/
#149 [02:38] <ShaRose> actually, they do
#150 [02:38] <ShaRose> they get up, they push to the release channel
#151 [02:38] <ShaRose> that's it
#152 [02:39] <Elystus> ShaRose: THey know they are releasing it today, but do not know exactly when.
#153 [02:39] <Guitarguy1133> i heard in future updates u get ridable animals
#154 [02:39] <Elystus> Obviously before they leave work.
#155 [02:39] <Guitarguy1133> tcontrolable/ridable
#156 [02:40] <Elystus> Guitarguy1133: That may be true. It wouldn't be too hard to institute.
#157 [02:40] <Guitarguy1133> yeah. thatd be pretty sweet riding an ender dragon without having to have a mod..
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#159 [02:40] <m0n0g0n> hi
#160 [02:40] <Elystus> Guitarguy1133: I doubt they would make the Enderdragon rideable.
#161 [02:41] <Elystus> Hello m0n0g0n. :)
#162 [02:41] <Guitarguy1133> BTW any word on nodus hacked clients? have then been able to plug all the exploits?
#163 [02:41] <Guitarguy1133> nodus people annoy me
#164 [02:42] <Elystus> They have patched some exploits, but I doubt they will ever plug all the exploits.
#165 [02:42] <Guitarguy1133> that sux... the main server i play on installed this anti x-ray plugin and it eats up a TON of memory... id love to see the day when anti hacking plugins arent needed anymore lol
#166 [02:44] <Elystus> Guitarguy1133: It would be hard to patch the x-ray exploit without making the server/client use a ton more ram.
#167 [02:44] <Guitarguy1133> yeah. its just a pipedream. lol
#168 [02:45] <ShaRose> Elystus it's when they wake up and hit the big red button
#169 [02:45] <m0n0g0n> yesterday i played the first time minecraft with a friend on his windows minecraft server.. we played the whole day and then the server crashed :( we restart the server and our world was there but after loading it, everything was resetet.. so we had a new world with the old name of our world! please help us, maybe the windows server creates backups of the world or simething like this.. how can we restore our world? :/
#170 [02:45] <Elystus> ShaRose: Maybe, but they may have things to fix on the release before they actually release it.
#171 [02:46] <Elystus> m0n0g0n: The world was reset to its original uneditted state after it crashed?
#172 [02:46] <ShaRose> they could be doing a 1.3.2 very soon after release, but as far as I know thus far they will be releasing 1.3.1 which has been in testing for a few days now
#173 [02:47] <m0n0g0n> Elytus: i think it is a new one! only the name is the same
#174 [02:47] <Elystus> All I know is that it will be released when it is released and I am sick of people asking about it :/
#175 [02:47] <Guitarguy1133> so will the 1.3.1 thats being released today be the same as the pre-release or is it a whole new jar file?
#176 [02:47] <m0n0g0n> or maybe, the spawnpoint was also resetet
#177 [02:47] <Elystus> m0n0g0n: are you sure that you did not spawn in a diffrent location?
#178 [02:47] <m0n0g0n> i am not sure
#179 [02:48] <m0n0g0n> how can i find this out?
#180 [02:48] <m0n0g0n> the world is so huge..
#181 [02:50] <Elystus> m0n0g0n: I have no idea.
#182 [02:51] <m0n0g0n> :/
#183 [02:51] <Elystus> Fly like superman :/
#184 [02:52] <m0n0g0n> how can i fly on a multiplayer serever
#185 [02:53] <Elystus> gamemode
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#187 [02:59] <Calinou> creative mode: double-tap space
#188 [02:59] <Calinou> you can't fly outside of creative mode
#189 [02:59] <Calinou> <Elystus> Guitarguy1133: It would be hard to patch the x-ray exploit without making the server/client use a ton more ram.
#190 [02:59] <Calinou> not RAM - actually CPU and bandwidth
#191 [03:00] <Elystus> Calinou: >_> Bandwidth is only true in the case of having it be serverside.
#192 [03:00] <Elystus> But Yes, i stand corrected.
#193 [03:01] <Calinou> how are you going to make an antixray client side?
#194 [03:01] <Arle> If it's client side, someone's going to hack it.
#195 [03:02] <Necrodoom> its mainly server side, ye
#196 [03:03] <Necrodoom> client can be improved to send better line sight packets, i guess
#197 [03:03] <Elystus> Calinou: Yes, server side would be better, but it is possible to not allow transparent textures except for certain blocks.
#198 [03:03] <SinZ> a custom server can implement anti-xray quite easy
#199 [03:04] <Necrodoom> depends on which kind of anti-xray
#200 [03:04] <SinZ> Dont send chunks they cant see, including underground ones
#201 [03:04] <Necrodoom> i think chunks are still being 16x16x256, not sure
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#203 [03:05] <SinZ> chunks are 16x16x16
#204 [03:05] <SinZ> and are initially sent in columns
#205 [03:05] <Necrodoom> oh, i see, thats why no improvement can be seen yet
#206 [03:05] <SinZ> but are still saved in groups of 16x16x16
#207 [03:06] <SinZ> within chunk columns, within regions
#208 [03:06] <Necrodoom> quite a waste, why send completely air chunks?
#209 [03:06] <SinZ> dont
#210 [03:06] <SinZ> theres a bitmask field of whats completely empty, and skips that
#211 [03:06] <Necrodoom> hm
#212 [03:06] <SinZ> So on flatgrass for example
#213 [03:07] <SinZ> only sends one chunk per column
#214 [03:07] <SinZ> with the exception of the villages
#215 [03:07] <SinZ> and user-build stuff
#216 [03:07] <SinZ> bult*
#217 [03:07] <SinZ> built**
#218 [03:08] <Necrodoom> on another note, are reverted potions craftable?
#219 [03:08] <SinZ> are what?
#220 [03:09] <SinZ> wtf are reverted potions
#221 [03:09] <Necrodoom> createable*
#222 [03:10] <Necrodoom> well, wiki says some potions are reverted
#223 [03:10] <Necrodoom> like extended instant damage
#224 [03:10] <SinZ> Oh, reverted potions
#225 [03:11] <SinZ> yeh
#226 [03:11] <Necrodoom> so you can create reverted potions without cheating them in? gah.
#227 [03:12] <SinZ> should be
#228 [03:12] <SinZ> its something like adding glowstone to a potion that used redstone and vice versa
#229 [03:13] <SinZ> never tried it myself, not into potions
#230 [03:13] <SinZ> Necrodoom: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Brewing#Reverted
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#233 [03:17] <rockettorussia> anyone in here?
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#237 [03:28] <epicman26> yo
#238 [03:28] <Arle> Hello
#239 [03:29] <epicman26> i need help can u help me?
#240 [03:29] <Arle> Possibly.
#241 [03:29] <Arle> What's the problem?
#242 [03:29] <Elystus> ?? dont/ask
#243 [03:30] <Calinou> <SinZ> Dont send chunks they cant see, including underground ones
#244 [03:30] <epicman26> mojang account migration
#245 [03:30] <Calinou> doesn't work like that unfortunately
#246 [03:30] <SinZ> Calinou: it is possible though
#247 [03:30] <SinZ> just not pretty under an existing server frame
#248 [03:30] <Elystus> epicman26: What about it?
#249 [03:30] <Calinou> keep in mind collision is client-side: what if you dig a mine then land in a cave that was potentially occluded?
#250 [03:30] <epicman26> the login questions i forgot them lol
#251 [03:31] <Calinou> ;)
#252 [03:31] <SinZ> Calinou: update the chunk asap saying its a cave
#253 [03:31] <Elystus> epicman26: And this is why you do not randomly mash the keyboard when answering the login questions...
#254 [03:32] <SinZ> maybe have pathfinding, tracking where the players going, if it appears they are going towards an unsent chunk, send it
#255 [03:32] <Elystus> epicman26: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#256 [03:32] <epicman26> i made the account in alpha and lost the answers
#257 [03:33] <epicman26> i cant
#258 [03:33] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#259 [03:34] <epicman26> its the questions to migrate my account
#260 [03:35] <epicman26> i dont remember them, i cant do anything until i answer them
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#264 [03:37] <Elystus> epicman26: Yes, you must contact Mojang about this.
#265 [03:37] <Elystus> >_>
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#267 [03:45] <mib_z0pkea> why i cant change email on minecraft website please help
#268 [03:45] <Elystus> Because it can only be done with migrated accounts.
#269 [03:45] <Elystus> Migrate your account then do it.
#270 [03:45] <Elystus> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
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#272 [03:46] <mib_z0pkea> o cool thanks 8)
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#274 [03:49] <sparkleturtle> where can I download minecraf beta 1.8.1
#275 [03:51] <GreyVulpine> sparkleturtle- You cannot
#276 [03:51] <Arle> sparkleturtle, search on Google for 'MCNostalgia'
#277 [03:53] <sparkleturtle> ok
#278 [03:53] <Elystus> GreyVulpine: You can get a downgrader which will allow you to downgrade only if the jar file is detected.
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#280 [03:53] <Arle> yeah, that's what MCNostalgia is
#281 [03:53] <GreyVulpine> Oh right, forgot about that
#282 [03:54] <Elystus> ._.
#283 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> I blame not enough sleep.
#284 [03:54] <Elystus> How long will it take for people to stop posting when is 1.3 coming out threads....
#285 [03:54] * GreyVulpine yawns
#285 [03:54] <Elystus> I want to sleep .-.
#286 [03:54] <Arle> When 1.3 comes out
#287 [03:54] <GreyVulpine> Until 1.3 is out
#288 [03:54] <Arle> GreyVulpine, ninja'd :P
#289 [03:54] <Elystus> >_>
#290 [03:54] * GreyVulpine snrks
#290 [03:54] <Elystus> Sadly, that is probably true.
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#292 [03:55] <GreyVulpine> Bleh. I got a new phone yesterday. It now whistles at me when you highlight my nick here
#293 [03:55] <Cropmy5> can someone tell me when 1.3 is coming out
#294 [03:55] * GreyVulpine so needs to find a way to turn that off
#294 [03:56] <Elystus> *cough* greyvulpine
#295 [03:56] <blink> is 1.3 out yet?
#296 [03:56] <Elystus> >_>
#297 [03:56] * Elystus throws blink out a window
#297 [03:56] <GreyVulpine> 1.3 will be out in 13 million oscillations of a cesium-133 atom
#298 [03:56] <blink> :\
#299 [03:56] <blink> is 1.3 out yet?
#300 [03:56] <Elystus> no
#301 [03:56] <Cropmy5> what time will it come out
#302 [03:56] <Elystus> will be out in about 5 hours
#303 [03:57] <Cropmy5> 5 hours?? but i thought it was 1st august
#304 [03:57] <Elystus> It is...
#305 [03:57] <Cropmy5> what time zone
#306 [03:57] <Necrodoom> -_-
#307 [03:57] <Cropmy5> cause its already 1st august for me
#308 [03:57] <Necrodoom> doesnt mean it comes at 00:00, lol
#309 [03:57] <Necrodoom> get some paitence
#310 [03:58] <Cropmy5> just asking
#311 [03:58] <Necrodoom> <Elystus> will be out in about 5 hours
#312 [03:58] <DiskDaemon> It will be 1.3.1 when it's released too
#313 [03:58] <Arle> what?
#314 [03:58] * Elystus throws this link on the table https://twitter.com/jeb_/status/230565543768371200
#314 [03:58] <Arle> What happened to 1.3.0?
#315 [03:58] <NoobFromWiki> Anyone here know anything about "could not create the Java virtual machine" error when trying to install Minecraft for the first time?
#316 [03:58] <Necrodoom> Arle: dead
#317 [03:58] <Cropmy5> thanks
#318 [03:59] <blink> <Necrodoom> get some paitence
#319 [03:59] <blink> no
#320 [03:59] <Necrodoom> blink: yes
#321 [03:59] <blink> it's my birthday I can be as impatient as I want
#322 [03:59] <blink> >:[
#323 [03:59] <Arle> Did bildramer stab it?
#324 [03:59] <Arle> :P
#325 [03:59] <Necrodoom> blink: yet you are a normal user
#326 [03:59] * blink tosses Necrodoom out of a window
#326 [03:59] <Necrodoom> blink: so you can be KICKED
#327 [03:59] <blink> yeah but the staff wouldn't do that because they're not stupid
#328 [03:59] * Arle pulls Necrodoom back in the window with his grappling hook.
#328 [04:00] <TheNoodle> haha
#329 [04:00] <blink> and they know when to take a joke
#330 [04:00] <TheNoodle> hahahahaha
#331 [04:00] <blink> lol
#332 [04:00] <blink> do they? or do they not
#333 [04:00] <TheNoodle> You're 3 seconds away from being kicked.
#334 [04:00] <TheNoodle> except I need to go food shopping
#335 [04:00] <blink> well crap. apparently they dont
#336 [04:01] <Elystus> blink: I have been dealing with threads asking about 1.3 for 2 hours now. ;/
#337 [04:01] <Elystus> Sadly I can say I have no humor right now.
#338 [04:01] <DiskDaemon> Oh sorry, what happened to 1.3.0 - they got the obfuscation wrong which made modding more difficult
#339 [04:01] <blink> well you can't say it wasn't expected...
#340 [04:02] <blink> or rather, isn't*
#341 [04:02] <DiskDaemon> What, dumb stupidity the hours before a release? Yes, that's expected :)
#342 [04:02] <blink> yep :D
#343 [04:02] <blink> this crap needs to come out ASAP
#344 [04:02] <Calinou> 1.3.1 fixed it
#345 [04:02] <NoobFromWiki> Anyone here know anything about "could not create the Java virtual machine" error when trying to install Minecraft for the first time?
#346 [04:02] * Calinou still wonders why mojang obfuscates their code
#346 [04:03] <Calinou> > reobfuscates stuff properly to make modding easier
#347 [04:03] <Arle> So people can't steal it?
#348 [04:03] <Calinou> > keeps their code obfuscated to make modding harder
#349 [04:03] <Calinou> Arle, you can have unobfuscated code that can't be stolen, in legal terms
#350 [04:03] <Arle> NoobFromWiki, try reinstalling your Java?
#351 [04:03] <Calinou> "stealing" is a big word too
#352 [04:03] <Calinou> NoobFromWiki, classic or the full game?
#353 [04:03] <DiskDaemon> It's so that a legal claim can be made on it being their intellectual property, because they are not "giving their code away" then
#354 [04:03] <Calinou> if your code is unobfuscated it is still compiled - you do not have direct access to the code
#355 [04:03] * Arle is reminded of WinRAR.
#355 [04:04] <sparkleturtle> I can't find minecraft beta 1.8.1
#356 [04:04] <Calinou> obfuscation is just pointless and annoys people as people always find out how it works
#357 [04:04] <Calinou> sparkleturtle, if you want to downgrade, use MCNostalgia
#358 [04:04] <NoobFromWiki> went to 7. had a problem. unistalled it, went back to 6. full game
#359 [04:04] <DiskDaemon> MC Nostalgia to downgrade
#360 [04:04] <Calinou> it is a third party tool, not supported here
#361 [04:04] <Calinou> NoobFromWiki, 32 bit or 64 bit?
#362 [04:05] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#363 [04:05] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#364 [04:05] <NoobFromWiki> uhh. not sure.
#365 [04:05] <sparkleturtle> Is minecraft meant to download as a file or as a program
#366 [04:06] <sparkleturtle> mine downloaded as a file
#367 [04:06] <Calinou> download it, do not "run" it if you're using internet exploder
#368 [04:06] <Calinou> then run it /normally/ by double clicking
#369 [04:06] <Arle> sparkleturtle, you download the launcher, but that then has to download the game files.
#370 [04:06] <sparkleturtle> how?
#371 [04:07] <Arle> Internet Exploder :D
#372 [04:07] <Arle> save it to the desktop
#373 [04:07] <Arle> then double-click on it
#374 [04:09] <NoobFromWiki> using Chrome. saved to desk top. Double click give me "vitual" error. "Run as" gives me "Jarfile" error
#375 [04:10] <NoobFromWiki> *virtual
#376 [04:10] <Arle> what exactly do the error messages say?
#377 [04:13] <NoobFromWiki> "Could not create Java virtual machine" and "unable to access jarfile."
#378 [04:13] <Calinou> NoobFromWiki, what graphics card? what operating system?
#379 [04:14] * Arle [Arle@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#380 [04:15] <NoobFromWiki> Windows xp. Radeon X1950
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#382 [04:18] <sparkleturtle> it won't work, it still saves as a file and then this message keeps comming up saying 'the publisher could not be vertified. are you sure you want to run this software?'
#383 [04:18] <Arle> Just click 'Yes' to that.
#384 [04:18] <sparkleturtle> but it's still a file not a program
#385 [04:22] <NoobFromWiki> ?
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#388 [04:32] <jaewonshin_> anyone
#389 [04:32] <jaewonshin_> anyone here to welcome me
#390 [04:32] <jaewonshin_> anyone please help me with some problems
#391 [04:33] <jaewonshin_> is there anyone in this chat? Im bored...
#392 [04:33] <Arle> yeah
#393 [04:33] <Arle> What's the problem?
#394 [04:33] <jaewonshin_> oh hi!
#395 [04:33] <Arle> Hi :)
#396 [04:33] <jaewonshin_> Can it be something related to game?
#397 [04:33] <Arle> You mean Minecraft related?
#398 [04:33] <jaewonshin_> yes
#399 [04:34] <Arle> Well, this is a Minecraft help channel
#400 [04:34] <jaewonshin_> oh, iti s?
#401 [04:34] <jaewonshin_> Then Ill request something
#402 [04:34] <DiskDaemon> That's what it says on the tin
#403 [04:34] <jaewonshin_> I just griefed one block of glowstone by ACCIDENT then I got banned for 3 weeks. Is it fair?
#404 [04:35] <Arle> one block?
#405 [04:35] <jaewonshin_> yes one block
#406 [04:35] <Arle> That hardly seems worth a first-offense ban. Especially by accident.
#407 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> We aren't the ones who dictate what is fair on a server
#408 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> Which server was it?
#409 [04:35] <jaewonshin_> Plus I didnt even steal the item
#410 [04:35] <jaewonshin_> ice craft
#411 [04:35] <jaewonshin_> I only remember I griefed one block of glowstone by accident during an experiment whether that person claimed the land
#412 [04:36] <Arle> Maybe /placing/ a block would constitute a better test, rather than breaking one.
#413 [04:36] <Arle> but still...
#414 [04:36] <jaewonshin_> Then can you at least tell me how I can go against this situation and tell ice craft?
#415 [04:37] <DiskDaemon> jaewonshin_: Is your usename wowo ?
#416 [04:37] <jaewonshin_> no.. its jaewonshin
#417 [04:37] <jaewonshin_> the same one
#418 [04:37] <jaewonshin_> So what did you find out?
#419 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> jaewonshin_: I don't see you on the ban list
#420 [04:38] <DiskDaemon> http://icecraft-mc.eu/banlist/
#421 [04:39] <jaewonshin_> Its on the page 9
#422 [04:39] <Arle> There's a note about 'if you are in this list and you think you know better'.
#423 [04:39] <jaewonshin_> So.. what
#424 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> Oh, here you go, on page 9. There's not much details there other than "griefing"
#425 [04:39] <jaewonshin_> yes
#426 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> http://icecraft-mc.eu/banlist/?page=9
#427 [04:40] <jaewonshin_> I still dont get why others got 2 weeks ban when they did mass griefing and I got 3 weeks ban when I did griefing
#428 [04:40] <jaewonshin_> Well its true that its not the first time I griefed
#429 [04:40] <jaewonshin_> but it was all like a small thing
#430 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Contact the ops of the server about that
#431 [04:40] <Arle> jaewonshin_, look at the bottom of the banlist page.
#432 [04:40] <jaewonshin_> wait a moment...
#433 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> jaewonshin_: How do you want us to help you?
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#435 [04:41] <jaewonshin_> I want you do just tell me how to make a ban appeal forum
#436 [04:42] <Arle> jaewonshin_, look at the bottom of the banlist page.
#437 [04:42] <Arle> If you are in this list and you think you know better, go to this thread to copy the correct format and appeal your ban on this forum.
#438 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> You want us to give you instructions on how you can create a ban appeal forum?
#439 [04:42] <jaewonshin_> yes
#440 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> we're not web designers
#441 [04:42] <DiskDaemon> We troubleshoot Minecraft installations here.
#442 [04:43] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: that thing doesnt have anything assosicated with mojang, or minecraft
#443 [04:43] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: its some random server that decided to ban you
#444 [04:43] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: there server, there rules
#445 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> jaewonshin_: We have also instructed you on how you can go about appealing your ban
#446 [04:43] <Jefferson> can some one help me with my minecraft server i want to play with a friend i can mine the blocks and they appear in my inventory when my friend does it they dont appear in his inventory but when he reloggs he has them in the inventory
#447 [04:43] <Arle> Have you been told off previously for griefing?
#448 [04:43] <Arle> Because it looks like they won't take kindly to a ban appeal in that case.
#449 [04:44] <DiskDaemon> Jefferson: Is this a bukkit server or some other kind like that?
#450 [04:44] <Jefferson> its the one from the minecraft.net site
#451 [04:44] <jaewonshin_> well...
#452 [04:44] <jaewonshin_> I guess
#453 [04:44] <jaewonshin_> Its the fact that I had bad reputation
#454 [04:45] <jaewonshin_> But then it was something like few blocks griefing and it was wood blocks
#455 [04:45] <jaewonshin_> not anything but just wood blocks
#456 [04:45] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: as i said, its not assosicated with mojang, or minecraft
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#458 [04:45] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: there server, there rules
#459 [04:45] <jaewonshin_> ok...
#460 [04:45] <DiskDaemon> well that certainly is an odd problem. I'll leave it for others who know more on server issues
#461 [04:45] <Jefferson> anyone got an idea how i can fix it?
#462 [04:45] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: you can whine all you want here, it wont help
#463 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> jaewonshin_: I ask again, how do you want us to help?
#464 [04:46] <jaewonshin_> Then can you tell me how I can go to other servers? Every time I try, it says user not premium
#465 [04:46] <Arle> Jefferson, is you're friend's connection prone to lag?
#466 [04:46] <Jefferson> no
#467 [04:46] <Jefferson> never
#468 [04:46] <Arle> jaewonshin_, that means you didn't log in with a valid username and password.
#469 [04:46] <DiskDaemon> !paid jaewonshin
#470 [04:47] <Arle> ^
#471 [04:47] <jaewonshin_> Oh.. really?
#472 [04:47] <jaewonshin_> I was keep thinking i did!!
#473 [04:47] <jaewonshin_> Then how did I manage to play in icecraft??
#474 [04:47] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: cracked server
#475 [04:47] <jaewonshin_> And I also had an account
#476 [04:48] <DiskDaemon> Glad to have got that sorted out
#477 [04:48] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: whats your minecraft username, then?
#478 [04:48] <Arle> You have to BUY Minecraft on it.
#479 [04:48] <jaewonshin_> it is jaewonshin, the same one
#480 [04:48] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: so you complain on #minecrafthelp, even though you havent bought the game, about a ban list of a private cracked server
#481 [04:49] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: and expect people here to solve your problem
#482 [04:49] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: i dont know anything more rude than that
#483 [04:49] <jaewonshin_> what do you mean?
#484 [04:49] <Arle> Looks like IceCraft is a cracked server. It doesn't authenticate your login. Most servers are /not/ like that.
#485 [04:50] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: that you should buy the game before you have the right to complain about it.
#486 [04:50] <jaewonshin_> ok
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#488 [04:50] <DiskDaemon> That helps to explain why icecraft is tough on griefing, because they have more than their share of troublemakers there
#489 [04:50] <jaewonshin_> And I wasnt complaining about it... I was just trying to no the reason
#490 [04:50] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: we arent icecraft
#491 [04:50] <jaewonshin_> oh..
#492 [04:51] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: im suprised it took you that long to learn that minecraft isnt hosting offical servers
#493 [04:51] <Arle> Apparently IceCraft also has a channel here at #icecraft
#494 [04:51] <jaewonshin_> It's because Im a beginner at minecraft
#495 [04:51] <DiskDaemon> jaewonshin_: Do you see the IRC link at the top of the icecraft page?
#496 [04:51] <jaewonshin_> yes
#497 [04:51] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: you arent a beginner, you are a pirate
#498 [04:51] <Necrodoom> jaewonshin_: off you go, please
#499 [04:51] <jaewonshin_> ok
#500 [04:51] <jaewonshin_> bye
#501 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> Go to #icecraft
#502 [04:52] <DiskDaemon> /join #icecraft
#503 [04:52] <Jefferson> so anyone got an idea how to fix my problem?
#504 [04:55] <NoobFromWiki> Got Java 7(Update 5). Re-downloaded Minecraft(full game). Re-started computer. When I try to run Minecrft.exe I get "Error: Could not create The Java Virtual Machine. Error: A Fatal exeption has occured. Program will exit."
#505 [04:58] <NoobFromWiki> *Minecraft.exe and *exception
#506 [04:59] <NoobFromWiki> any ideas?
#507 [05:00] <NoobFromWiki> anyone?
#508 [05:00] <DiskDaemon> NoobFromWiki: Is your Java installed in the "program files (x86)" folder?
#509 [05:03] <NoobFromWiki> not sure. how can I find out where its at?
#510 [05:04] <DiskDaemon> Do you know how to with the windows explorer?
#511 [05:05] <NoobFromWiki> yes. It's saved in program files
#512 [05:05] * Arle points at (x86).
#512 [05:08] <NoobFromWiki> ARgh. IDK . Its not saved where I thought it was. hold on- finding it
#513 [05:08] <DiskDaemon> Okay, thanks. Please find out and then tell us afterwards.
#514 [05:13] <NoobFromWiki> C:\Program Files\Java
#515 [05:14] <DiskDaemon> Good one, so it seems that you have the right type of java installed, in the right place
#516 [05:15] <DiskDaemon> Is there any Java folder in the "program files (x86) folder?
#517 [05:16] <NoobFromWiki> Not sure I have a (x86) folder. Where should it be?
#518 [05:17] <DiskDaemon> Are you using XP?
#519 [05:17] <NoobFromWiki> yes
#520 [05:17] <DiskDaemon> A lot of these questions can be easily answered by us looking at your dxdiag report
#521 [05:17] <DiskDaemon> ??> NoobFromWiki win/dxdiag
#522 [05:17] <VoxelHead> NoobFromWiki: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#523 [05:17] <VoxelHead> NoobFromWiki: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#524 [05:21] <NoobFromWiki> seems like a lot of info to be sharing. hold on. Collecting system device info.
#525 [05:23] <Bamboocha> When i will use texture pack x64 that don't support other mod which add new items to game then MC will use default textures x16 for items from that mod or it won't work at all and i must choose using that texture pack or that mod?
#526 [05:24] <DiskDaemon> Bamboocha: thats right.
#527 [05:25] <Bamboocha> DiskDaemon, with option? will use default or i must choose
#528 [05:25] <Bamboocha> which*
#529 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> the latter
#530 [05:26] <NoobFromWiki> Seems stuck on "Please wait while DxDiag collects system device information."
#531 [05:28] <Bamboocha> DiskDaemon, damn, so if i want use texture pack then i must find one that support my mods? ;/
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#533 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> correect
#534 [05:29] <Bamboocha> annoying solution :( anyway thx for ur help
#535 [05:31] <NoobFromWiki> Seems stuck on "Please wait while DxDiag collects system device information."
#536 [05:31] <DiskDaemon> That can take some time
#537 [05:31] <NoobFromWiki> k
#538 [05:34] <DiskDaemon> NoobFromWiki: While we're waiting, does your computer have a make/model?
#539 [05:35] <NoobFromWiki> built it myself. but that was a while ago.
#540 [05:35] <DiskDaemon> okay, we look forward to the results
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#542 [05:37] <NoobFromWiki> it did crash a few months ago. and i had a few problems since then. nothing major, but more restarts.
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#544 [05:38] <DiskDaemon> That it's taking so long to put together this report, doesn't bode well for things
#545 [05:39] <NoobFromWiki> I dont even think this bar is moving.
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#547 [05:42] <DiskDaemon> NoobFromWiki: Is your machine using the graphics chip that's built in to the motherboard?
#548 [05:42] <NoobFromWiki> no radeon x1950
#549 [05:42] <skyboy> has his machine explo- oh, guess not
#550 [05:44] <DiskDaemon> Well it shouldn't have any trouble on that front then
#551 [05:45] <skyboy> since dxdiag doesn't appear to be completing, i'm going to guess it's some horribly corrupt driver, or malware
#552 [05:46] <NoobFromWiki> got avg. should i full-scan?
#553 [05:46] <skyboy> that AV can actually caue issues
#554 [05:46] <skyboy> cause*
#555 [05:46] <skyboy> what's the issue you're having, specifically?
#556 [05:46] <NoobFromWiki> turned it off for download.
#557 [05:47] <DiskDaemon> This: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=103493569783624&set=a.103493556450292.4473.100003689438372&type=3&theater
#558 [05:47] <NoobFromWiki> Got Java 7(Update 5). Re-downloaded Minecraft(full game). Re-started computer. When I try to run Minecrft.exe I get "Error: Could not create The Java Virtual Machine. Error: A Fatal exeption has occured. Program will exit."
#559 [05:48] <skyboy> ah, a broken java install, i imagine
#560 [05:48] <skyboy> drivers can cause it too, but the java uninstall and reinstall is an eaietest
#561 [05:48] <skyboy> easier test*
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#563 [05:49] <DiskDaemon> Try this - http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
#564 [05:53] <NoobFromWiki> gimme a sec. gonna un-install and re-install java
#565 [05:53] <DiskDaemon> even better, use this
#566 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> ?? error/crashjava
#567 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> ?? error/javacrash
#568 [05:54] <VoxelHead> error/javacrash: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment
#569 [05:54] <VoxelHead> error/javacrash: This error happens when something causes java to become unstable. The usual culprit is lwjgl (and therefore video drivers), however, it can be caused by a broken JVM. Reinstall your video card drivers, and if that fails, run javara and then reinstall java.
#570 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> JavaRa ^
#571 [05:57] <NoobFromWiki> hold on brb
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#575 [06:09] <dinxton2> If SSP is basicly SMP, does that mean you can have more than 1 dimension open at one time?
#576 [06:10] <DiskDaemon> The player can only experience one at a time though
#577 [06:12] <dinxton2> But, say if you had a furnace in the Nether, it would continue while you're in the Overworld? (in the new 1.3 update)
#578 [06:13] <DiskDaemon> It will continue only when players are around to activate that chunk
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#580 [06:13] <dinxton2> Oh :(
#581 [06:13] <dinxton2> Darn
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#585 [06:26] <pheleas_frog> how change reucoverie questions on mojang site??
#586 [06:26] <Helloman892> What?
#587 [06:26] * NoobFromWiki [NoobFromWiki@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#588 [06:26] <Helloman892> Oh, that? You can't, I believe.
#589 [06:27] <Helloman892> pheleas_frog: ^
#590 [06:27] <pheleas_frog> oh ok
#591 [06:27] <Helloman892> Sorry :/
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#593 [06:27] <pheleas_frog> nothing
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#595 [06:44] <NoobFromWiki> +Disk Daemon still around?
#596 [06:44] <Helloman892> Might be.
#597 [06:45] <Helloman892> YO! DISKDAEMON?
#598 [06:45] <Helloman892> NoobFromWiki wants ya!
#599 [06:46] <DiskDaemon> sure
#600 [06:47] <Helloman892> NoobFromWiki: He's here.
#601 [06:47] <Helloman892> XD
#602 [06:47] <Arle> NoobFromWiki, you new to IRC?
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#604 [06:47] <NoobFromWiki> Think I got my Dxdiag report, what do I do with it?
#605 [06:47] <libraryaddict> Aw, Nothing in topic about 1.3? Thought it would of been more of a issue
#606 [06:47] <NoobFromWiki> and yes. new
#607 [06:47] <DiskDaemon> There's no need to shout, for example. The acoustics are spot on in here.
#608 [06:49] <DiskDaemon> It comes out in 2 hours. I'm going to be before then
#609 [06:49] <DiskDaemon> *bed
#610 [06:51] <NoobFromWiki> Forgive my idiocy, but whats IRC stand for
#611 [06:51] <Helloman892> Internet Relay Chat
#612 [06:52] <DiskDaemon> What = Internet How = Relay. Why = Chat.
#613 [06:52] <NoobFromWiki> k. thanks
#614 [06:53] <NoobFromWiki> I'm supposed to past this to pastebin.com?
#615 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> yes
#616 [06:56] <NoobFromWiki> k. posted title: Noob News
#617 [06:56] <Helloman892> You need to give us the link.
#618 [06:56] <NoobFromWiki> oh. hold on
#619 [06:57] <NoobFromWiki> http://pastebin.com/pzwZX7HN
#620 [06:59] <DiskDaemon> I see no significant issues there. Clear out Java using that JavaRa program and redo from start
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#622 [07:00] <f> I have the hs err pid error and i dont know how to fix it
#623 [07:00] <Helloman892> HS err pid?
#624 [07:00] <Helloman892> Sorry, I have NO idea.
#625 [07:00] <DiskDaemon> Guest60900: That file is created because your graphcis drivers are too old to understand the commands being given to it.
#626 [07:01] <Guest68009> Ohh right.
#627 [07:01] <Guest68009> How can i fix that
#628 [07:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest60900 win/dxdiag
#629 [07:01] <VoxelHead> Guest60900: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#630 [07:01] <VoxelHead> Guest60900: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#631 [07:02] <NoobFromWiki> http://pastebin.com/pzwZX7HN
#632 [07:03] <Helloman892> NoobFromWiki: The same link?
#633 [07:04] <NoobFromWiki> whoops
#634 [07:04] <NoobFromWiki> getting javara. Already uninstalled old java though
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#636 [07:06] <Guest68009> Im awful with computers but, whats the IRC channel??
#637 [07:06] <Helloman892> This is the IRC channel.
#638 [07:06] <Guest68009> http://pastebin.com/qPp7EB2j
#639 [07:06] <Guest68009> okay thanks
#640 [07:07] <Helloman892> DiskDaemon: It's not Guest60900. It's Guest68009.
#641 [07:07] <DiskDaemon> It's definately time for bed shortly then
#642 [07:07] <Helloman892> Yes.
#643 [07:07] <Helloman892> Yes it is.
#644 [07:07] <Guest68009> what now
#645 [07:07] <Helloman892> Jesus...
#646 [07:08] <Helloman892> I haven't seen drivers THIS old since I was 7 years old :/
#647 [07:08] <Helloman892> Which was 5 years ago, if you're asking.
#648 [07:08] <DiskDaemon> Guest68009: Your computer has 128 MB of display ram. That is not enough for Minecraft. The minimum specs are twice as large as that
#649 [07:08] <DiskDaemon> ?? minspecs
#650 [07:08] <VoxelHead> minspecs: There is no software magic that can make your hardware meet the minimum specifications that are required by the game.
#651 [07:08] <Helloman892> I have 1GB :P
#652 [07:09] <Guest68009> okay
#653 [07:09] <Helloman892> Guest68009: Basically, you need a new computer, or a better graphics card.
#654 [07:09] <Guest68009> how do i delete the pastebin thingy
#655 [07:09] <Helloman892> You can't.
#656 [07:09] <Helloman892> And you don't need to.
#657 [07:10] <DiskDaemon> Guest68009: There's nothing dangerous on there that people can use against you, other than perhaps for your choice of hardware
#658 [07:10] <Guest68009> okay thanks for your help it was very useful :)
#659 [07:10] <Helloman892> No problem.
#660 [07:10] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#661 [07:10] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
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#663 [07:11] * DiskDaemon still feels odd being thanked for telling people they have shitty computers
#663 [07:11] * Helloman892 agrees with DiskDaemon's feelings
#663 [07:11] <Arle> lol?
#664 [07:12] <Helloman892> We just told that guy he had a crap PC, and he thanked us for it.
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#666 [07:12] <NoobFromWiki> argh javara not installing right
#667 [07:13] <DiskDaemon> It must be run as an administrator
#668 [07:13] <NoobFromWiki> gotta restart. i'll forgive you if you go to bed.
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#673 [07:38] <Bitch> lol
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#675 [07:43] <GPerson> why do nearly all the 32x32 texture packs i've installed not display the textures for some "items with data," specifically wood planks 5:1, 5:2, 5:3 -- yet saplings 6:1, :2, and :3 are textured w/o issue
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#677 [07:45] <NoobFromWiki> yay. I now get a different error message :(
#678 [07:45] <SinZ> which is?
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#680 [07:47] <Cropmy5> so in how many hours is 1.3 coming out
#681 [07:49] <NoobFromWiki> "The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment istallation or the runtime is corrupted. The system cannot find the specified file."
#682 [07:49] <Cropmy5> in how many hours is 1.3 coming out?
#683 [07:50] <xales> Cropmy5: When it comes out.
#684 [07:50] <Cropmy5> yeah i know but in how many hours
#685 [07:51] <xales> It will come out when it comes out. Be patient and stop asking.
#686 [07:51] <Cropmy5> i just asked once
#687 [07:51] <xales> ._.
#688 [07:52] <NoobFromWiki> When will I be able to play the version I bought and downloaded five hours ago?
#689 [07:53] <xales> NoobFromWiki: When you get your computer into a state in which it is able to run the game?
#690 [07:53] <NoobFromWiki> fair enough.
#691 [07:54] <NoobFromWiki> any ideas on how to do that?
#692 [07:54] <xales> Have you tried running Javara?
#693 [07:54] <NoobFromWiki> yep. just did
#694 [07:54] <xales> And reinstalling Java afterwords?
#695 [07:56] <NoobFromWiki> Already had it, but javara asked if I wanted to install newest version. Said yes. Went through install process.
#696 [07:56] <xales> Did you try using the "Remove older versions" option?
#697 [07:57] <NoobFromWiki> yep. Unistalled my self. But javara found 238 files or something
#698 [07:58] <xales> Did it remove them?
#699 [07:58] <NoobFromWiki> yep
#700 [07:59] <xales> Try running it again
#701 [07:59] <NoobFromWiki> k
#702 [08:03] <NoobFromWiki> 1 item deleted. should i install new again?
#703 [08:04] <xales> Try running Minecraft, but you'll probably need to do that, yes
#704 [08:05] <NoobFromWiki> no go. installing again.
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#706 [08:08] <NoobFromWiki> java installed. still no minecraft:(
#707 [08:08] <xales> Is it the same error?
#708 [08:09] <NoobFromWiki> yes
#709 [08:09] <NoobFromWiki> "The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment istallation or the runtime is corrupted. The system cannot find the specified file."
#710 [08:10] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Try installing Java from here: http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/7u5-b06/jre-7u5-windows-x64.exe
#711 [08:14] <sam_> Java 7 isn't working properly with Minecraft
#712 [08:14] <NoobFromWiki> says i have to agree to some terms, but doesnt give me the option. clicked on links to java download takes me to java.com/en/download/index.jsp, which is where i got mine from.
#713 [08:14] <sam_> Not sure about 1.3.*
#714 [08:14] <sam_> so recommending JRE 7 is not a very good idea
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#716 [08:15] <xales> sam_: Java 7 is now the recommended version, and it's easy to get it to work when it doesn't work.
#717 [08:15] <sam_> It's recommended for Minecraft 1.3?
#718 [08:15] <sam_> Contrary to what I was told last night
#719 [08:15] <xales> sam_: It's recommended by Oracle for use in general.
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#721 [08:16] <sam_> xales: not the same thing.
#722 [08:16] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Go here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre7-downloads-1637588.html and click the radio button for "Agree License Agreement," and click the link next to "Windows x64"
#723 [08:16] <sam_> xales: The bot even says there are issues with it, I was speaking to someone else here last night and I was having issues and after speaking, the only real solution was Java 6 because of some weird compatibility.
#724 [08:18] <xales> sam_: It doesn't really matter. There are issues with it, but they are relatively easy to fix, and that's what we've been doing. Eventually, users will upgrade to 7 on their own (possibly due to automatic updates) and will just run into the issues then, anyway.
#725 [08:19] <sam_> xales: Alright, well maybe you want to help with my issues with Linux x64 OpenJDK 7?
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#727 [08:19] <xales> sam_: Specifically?
#728 [08:19] <sam_> xales: I have no idea how to fix it, Minecraft is looking for 32bit game libraries or something
#729 [08:19] <sam_> I can get yo uthe error
#730 [08:19] <sam_> Hang on
#731 [08:19] <xales> Yeah, I have no idea what the issue with that is, I have had the same problem. I've fixed it in the past using some arcane environment variable.
#732 [08:20] <sam_> So did I, but I installed some new version or whatever and now that /opt folder is gone
#733 [08:20] <NoobFromWiki> not a valid win32 application
#734 [08:20] <xales> sam_: Launch it like this: http://forevernothing.com/minecraft_launch.sh.txt
#735 [08:20] <sam_> Alright, hang on
#736 [08:21] <NoobFromWiki> not a valid Win32 application.'
#737 [08:21] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Okay, hmm. Use the "Windows x86" link then
#738 [08:21] <NoobFromWiki> online?
#739 [08:22] <sam_> xales: still fails
#740 [08:22] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Offline
#741 [08:22] <sam_> .minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
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#743 [08:22] <xales> sam_: You launched it with the modified LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
#744 [08:23] <sam_> xales: yeah, I ran the shell file and the Launcher ran with 7 (I could tell by the font difference), when I login though, it blows up
#745 [08:24] <xales> Is $JAVA_HOME set?
#746 [08:24] <NoobFromWiki> installing
#747 [08:24] <xales> That may be specific to my distro
#748 [08:24] <sam_> xales: seems not
#749 [08:24] <sam_> export | grep java shows nothing
#750 [08:24] <xales> Yeah, that's the problem. I have Java 6 installed on this machine, and it's set to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk so see if you can work out what that should be set to
#751 [08:25] <NoobFromWiki> k. installed
#752 [08:25] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Try now.
#753 [08:25] <sam_> I know how to get it working with Java 6, because I can just use update-alternatives
#754 [08:25] <sam_> but I really don't want to unless I have to
#755 [08:26] <NoobFromWiki> nope.
#756 [08:26] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Do you know how to use RegEdit?
#757 [08:26] <NoobFromWiki> nope. not really
#758 [08:26] <sam_> be warned, he may have multiple versions of Java, and on Windows, that does not go well.
#759 [08:27] <sam_> I had to uh, right click -> open with -> java or something
#760 [08:27] <NoobFromWiki> deleted old versions with javara
#761 [08:27] <xales> sam_: Yeah, from what it looks like, the version of Java that's in the registry doesn't exist any longer
#762 [08:27] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Do you know what TeamViewer is?
#763 [08:27] <sam_> xales: It really was hell on Windows haha
#764 [08:27] <NoobFromWiki> no
#765 [08:27] <NoobFromWiki> sorry
#766 [08:27] <xales> sam_: Indeed, haha
#767 [08:28] <xales> NoobFromWiki: One second
#768 [08:28] <NoobFromWiki> I just wanted to smash some cubes.
#769 [08:30] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Download and install CCleaner from here: http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard and let me know once that's done
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#772 [08:33] <NoobFromWiki> ok
#773 [08:34] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Open CCleaner, click the Registry button, and click "Scan for Issues"
#774 [08:34] <sam_> I thought of that, not sure if it's gonna help though
#775 [08:35] <NoobFromWiki> ok
#776 [08:35] <sam_> All I had to do was right click on the jar and "Open with" -> "jre" or whatever, it was already in the list, I think
#777 [08:36] <NoobFromWiki> fix selected issues, i guess?
#778 [08:36] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Yep
#779 [08:36] <xales> If it asks you to back up the registry, you can just say no
#780 [08:37] <NoobFromWiki> ok
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#783 [08:38] <NoobFromWiki> try again?
#784 [08:38] <sam_> Alright
#785 [08:38] <sam_> What exactly are you trying to do?
#786 [08:38] <sam_> You're on Windows and you're trying to run Minecraft
#787 [08:38] <sam_> How exactly are you doing this?
#788 [08:39] <NoobFromWiki> huh?
#789 [08:39] <sam_> Quite clear.
#790 [08:39] <sam_> How are you trying to run Minecraft? You see the file, what do you do?
#791 [08:39] <NoobFromWiki> im not doing it apparently.
#792 [08:39] <sam_> Are you just double clicking on it?
#793 [08:40] <NoobFromWiki> tried that. tried right click then open, tried right click then run as
#794 [08:40] <sam_> What do you see when you do Right Click->Run As?
#795 [08:40] <sam_> You should see a few options
#796 [08:42] <NoobFromWiki> no options goes to open file. run or cancel.
#797 [08:42] <sam_> what?
#798 [08:42] <sam_> wait, are you on like windows XP or something?
#799 [08:42] <xales> sam_: I think it's called "Open with", "run as" is the process token thing
#800 [08:42] <sam_> xales: that's only in really old versions IIRC
#801 [08:42] <sam_> xales: oh, right, yeah
#802 [08:42] <NoobFromWiki> yes xp
#803 [08:42] <sam_> Okay, Open with
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#805 [08:43] <sam_> Right Click->Open With, what are your options?
#806 [08:43] <sam_> I don't remember XP very well
#807 [08:43] <sam_> ugh
#808 [08:43] <NoobFromWiki> no open with option
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#810 [08:43] <braeduscus_1> hello
#811 [08:43] <sam_> TeamViewer would be a god send right here
#812 [08:44] <braeduscus_1> hello
#813 [08:44] <sam_> Hi
#814 [08:44] <braeduscus_1> i need help
#815 [08:44] <sam_> What with?
#816 [08:44] <braeduscus_1> minecraft wont update to 1.3
#817 [08:44] <sam_> It's not out yet?
#818 [08:44] <sam_> let me check
#819 [08:44] <braeduscus_1> it comes out august 1st
#820 [08:44] <sam_> It comes out in 30 minutes or so :p
#821 [08:45] <SinZ> in 16 minutes
#822 [08:45] <sam_> There we go
#823 [08:45] <braeduscus_1> ok thanks ill have my timer on
#824 [08:45] <SinZ> make that 15
#825 [08:45] <NoobFromWiki> when I choose "run as" I get the "unable to access jarfile" error
#826 [08:45] <SinZ> (15:00CEST)
#827 [08:45] <Morrolan> Make that two hours untill you can actually PLAY it.
#828 [08:45] <sam_> How so?
#829 [08:45] <Morrolan> Servers will die, or slow down, most likely. ;)
#830 [08:45] <sam_> oh
#831 [08:45] <sam_> haha
#832 [08:45] <sam_> NoobFromWiki: Open With, not Run As.
#833 [08:46] <SinZ> Morrolan: Only because the community are stupid, and didnt use the week long pre-release to update
#834 [08:46] <xales> Morrolan: What does one do when there registry has a bad Java version and Javara doesn't fix it? :p
#835 [08:46] <SinZ> xales: regedit?
#836 [08:46] <NoobFromWiki> double clicking or "open" gets me "The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment istallation or the runtime is corrupted. The system cannot find the specified file."
#837 [08:46] <Morrolan> xales - No idea. :P
#838 [08:46] <sam_> my god
#839 [08:47] <sam_> Java is truly buggered
#840 [08:47] <xales> SinZ: The last time I had someone regedit something they deleted a good portion of their user hive. ._.
#841 [08:47] <Morrolan> SinZ - Mhm, assuming the prerelease version will be identical to the release version, updating would have been smarter indeed.
#842 [08:47] <Morrolan> updating during the last few days*
#843 [08:47] <SinZ> Morrolan: it was, and they said it will be, so modders had the time
#844 [08:47] <Morrolan> Okay. :)
#845 [08:47] <Morrolan> How does the launcher keep track of whether he's got the most recent version, anyway? A hash?
#846 [08:48] <SinZ> yep
#847 [08:48] <Morrolan> Ok.
#848 [08:48] <SinZ> timestamp and compares to the version file in .minecraft
#849 [08:49] <SinZ> Morrolan: https://login.minecraft.net/?user={USER}&password={PASSWORD}&version=1337
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#851 [08:49] <SinZ> the first set of numbers before the : is the timestamp imo
#852 [08:49] <Morrolan> Okay. :)
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#854 [08:49] <SinZ> deprecated used to be the download ticket
#855 [08:50] <SinZ> and the last set of stuff is sessionID
#856 [08:50] <SinZ> used for server authentication
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#858 [08:54] <aever> Okay, so I just got minecraft for the PC and it plays great for about 3 minutes, then it begins to lag. After about 30 seconds of major lag, it freezes all together. I've tried updating my BIOS and graphic card, and i downloaded java again. After the installation was done of java I got a message saying "Downloaded File is corrupt: C://Users\hunter\AppData\Local\Temp\\fx-runtime.exe is corrupt"
#859 [08:54] <aever> Could that be the problem?
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#862 [08:55] <NoobFromWiki> u get 3 minutes. I'm jealous.
#863 [08:55] <Calinou> why the F do you want to update your bios?!
#864 [08:55] <xales> aever: The only time I've seen that error is when malware breaks Java.
#865 [08:55] <aever> So I have a virus?
#866 [08:55] <sam_> well
#867 [08:55] <sam_> not necessarily
#868 [08:56] <sam_> but it's possible
#869 [08:56] <xales> ^
#870 [08:56] <aever> I scanned 2 days ago
#871 [08:56] <aever> said nothing up
#872 [08:56] <xales> Scanned with?
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#874 [08:56] <sam_> it doesn't take 2 days to infect.
#875 [08:56] <aever> Microsoft Security Essentials
#876 [08:56] <sam_> Also, MBAM is the shit
#877 [08:56] <xales> ^
#878 [08:56] <NoobFromWiki> probably west nile.
#879 [08:56] <sam_> MalwareBytes Anti Malware
#880 [08:56] <xales> Try scanning with MalwareBytes
#881 [08:56] <aever> Where can I get that?
#882 [08:56] <sam_> hang on
#883 [08:56] <aever> As in, where is a SAFE download?
#884 [08:57] <sam_> I know
#885 [08:57] <Morrolan> malwarebytes.org or .com IIRC
#886 [08:57] <Morrolan> But GOogle will help with that.
#887 [08:57] <xales> .org
#888 [08:57] <aever> Also, thank you in advance for all the help
#889 [08:57] <Morrolan> Google, even
#890 [08:57] <sam_> their site is messed up for me
#891 [08:57] <sam_> right now
#892 [08:57] <sam_> aever : sorry for a nasty link, but it's where MBAM.org takes me too. http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3001-8022_4-10804572.html?part=dl-10804572&spi=e2d095d989e07c6bdbd6c6e9e75eeeaa
#893 [08:58] <sam_> they don't even host the free one on their serers
#894 [08:58] <sam_> servers
#895 [08:58] <sam_> ugh
#896 [08:58] <sam_> anyway, yeah, you'll have to use CNET
#897 [08:58] <aever> http://www.techspot.com/downloadget.php?id=4716&file=1&evp=1ccee3a696736130499e142a929f65b8
#898 [08:58] <aever> that where it took me from their site
#899 [08:58] <sam_> never hear of that site..
#900 [08:58] <sam_> that looks shady as hell
#901 [08:58] <aever> should i switch over to cnet?
#902 [08:58] <sam_> yes
#903 [08:59] <sam_> that just looks nasty
#904 [08:59] <sam_> I can trust cnet to an extent
#905 [08:59] <sam_> No diea what techspot is
#906 [08:59] <aever> Thank you!
#907 [08:59] <sam_> no problem
#908 [09:00] <aever> wow that was really quick
#909 [09:01] <NoobFromWiki> thats what she said.
#910 [09:01] <aever> noooo
#911 [09:01] <aever> damn malwarebytes!
#912 [09:01] <sam_> ?
#913 [09:01] <aever> it blocked my utorrent!
#914 [09:01] <sam_> it shouldn't
#915 [09:01] <aever> it said it was outgoing to a potentially malicious website
#916 [09:01] <sam_> oh
#917 [09:01] <sam_> you went for the trial
#918 [09:01] <aever> haha yeah
#919 [09:02] <sam_> it'll only block certain IPs but it can be a hinderence
#920 [09:02] <sam_> There's an icon in the tray area, right click it and turn off the website scanning
#921 [09:02] <aever> oh well, cant torrent right now because of the internet provider thing they started up in july....
#922 [09:02] <Morrolan> Or just disable torrents until Malwarebyte's AntiMalware has done its job?
#923 [09:02] <sam_> Morrolan: It's a thing that'd carry on for 14 days or the such, it's better to just turn it off I guess.
#924 [09:03] <Morrolan> Hmm?
#925 [09:03] <sam_> Morrolan: It's a thing which checks IPs and all against a blacklist, it blocked a few IPs which uTorrent was talking to
#926 [09:03] <Morrolan> Well, yea, but it won't do that anymore after you've uninstalled it again. ;)
#927 [09:03] <sam_> Morrolan: so he's enabled the trial which comes with that feature, since he probably hasn't paid, i'm saying it's easier to turn that feature off than just stop torrenting for an inconvenience
#928 [09:03] <sam_> hah
#929 [09:04] <sam_> yeah
#930 [09:04] <aever> I thought if you torrented, your internet providers reported you now
#931 [09:04] <Morrolan> Maybe.
#932 [09:04] <Morrolan> Only one way to find out. :>
#933 [09:04] <aever> Because my friends and I all found articles on internet providers and SOPA teaming up and starting that in early july
#934 [09:05] <aever> Haha I like morrolan's idea
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#936 [09:05] <zeus_> hello?
#937 [09:05] <sam_> alright 1.3 is out
#938 [09:05] <sam_> awesome
#939 [09:05] <aever> 1.3?
#940 [09:06] <sam_> yes
#941 [09:06] <zeus_> cna anyone help me with the can't conect ti minecraft.net problem?
#942 [09:06] <sam_> the topic should be updated haha
#943 [09:06] <sam_> zeus_: no! It's a load of people trying to play the new version. You just have to wait. :(
#944 [09:06] <sam_> zeus_: unless this was occurring before?
#945 [09:06] <zeus_> this was before
#946 [09:06] <sam_> when, exactly?
#947 [09:06] <zeus_> last week, when i bought the game
#948 [09:07] <sam_> Do you have ZoneAlarm or something?
#949 [09:07] <sam_> Generally firewalls like to block Minecraft
#950 [09:07] <zeus_> kaspersky i-net security i turned it already off, doesn't work ;(
#951 [09:07] <sam_> Are you sure the firewall is off? Those kind of products tend to have like 50 damn layers of options which need to be turned off for it to actually be off
#952 [09:08] <zeus_> yes sure i turned it off
#953 [09:08] <aever> so an update just came out for it?
#954 [09:08] <sam_> aever: yes.
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#956 [09:08] <aever> Awesome! :D
#957 [09:08] <aever> If only I could play it...
#958 [09:09] <Smanly> Horray! 1.3 is here!
#959 [09:09] <zeus_> sam_?
#960 [09:09] <sam_> Hi
#961 [09:10] <aever> If I have a lot of security programs on my computer, could that be making it lag?
#962 [09:10] <zeus_> i also tried to do the trick with the clock and so on
#963 [09:10] <sam_> aever: a possibility, yes. There's quite a few things which generally bog down your system, and derived from that, Minecraft
#964 [09:10] <sam_> zeus_: uh.. what?
#965 [09:10] <NoobFromWiki> so this kinda sucks. wish i knew what javas problem was.
#966 [09:11] <zeus_> some people say that i have to uipdate the clock zo fix it but thats crap
#967 [09:11] <sam_> zeus_: your clock should be up to date. TLS can fail if the time is wrong
#968 [09:11] <NoobFromWiki> *are
#969 [09:11] <aever> I don't get why PC games are so much buggy than consoles...
#970 [09:11] <zeus_> it is up to date i treid about 500 times
#971 [09:11] <sam_> aever: they aren't really that bad
#972 [09:12] <sam_> aever: but most of the time, the PC games are released earlier and get a lot of updates. Console games tend to be one and only and then tiny updates for cheats and stuff haha
#973 [09:12] <aever> I have problems with most PC games working
#974 [09:12] <zeus_> do you know a special trick or something like that i just downloaded the client again, doesn't work
#975 [09:12] <aever> like my Civilization V crashed for the first 4 months
#976 [09:12] <NoobFromWiki> thought about getting this on the 360. but wanted PC version, i thought
#977 [09:12] <sam_> is XP even supported anymore
#978 [09:13] <sam_> nope
#979 [09:13] <aever> I have it on 360
#980 [09:13] <aever> it a blast
#981 [09:13] <sam_> NoobFromWiki: What service pack are you on?
#982 [09:13] <sam_> Because XP is barely supported anymore
#983 [09:15] <NoobFromWiki> framework 3.0 service pack 2.0
#984 [09:15] <aever> could it help if i reintalled minecraft?
#985 [09:15] <Smanly> it could.
#986 [09:16] <sam_> if all else fails
#987 [09:16] <sam_> remove all the java, minecraft, an try again
#988 [09:16] <aever> How do I uninstall the minecraft client?
#989 [09:16] <sam_> uhhh, OS?
#990 [09:16] <zeus_> delete it
#991 [09:16] <aever> that works haha
#992 [09:16] <zeus_> i wanna play minecraft with the client !!!!!
#993 [09:17] <zeus_> but it only works in browser
#994 [09:17] <lutzee> If you delete the minecraft client you wont be deleting the games files
#995 [09:17] <lutzee> they are stored elsewhere
#996 [09:17] <zeus_> %appdata% -> delete .minecraft
#997 [09:17] <NoobFromWiki> xp pro
#998 [09:18] <zeus_> i have can't connect to minecraft.net since last week :(
#999 [09:18] <lutzee> Guys what java versions are you running?
#1000 [09:18] <zeus_> 7 update 5
#1001 [09:18] <lutzee> Thought so
#1002 [09:18] <sam_> OpenJDK 6 x64
#1003 [09:18] <NoobFromWiki> same
#1004 [09:18] <zeus_> jdk because i like programming
#1005 [09:18] <lutzee> ??< index
#1006 [09:18] <tyteen4a03> zeus_: *oshere*/reinst(/sh or /bat)
#1007 [09:19] <zeus_> ?
#1008 [09:19] <tyteen4a03> zeus_: it's the factoid's name to reinstallation of Minecraft
#1009 [09:19] <lutzee> ?? java/jre/7u5
#1010 [09:19] <lutzee> lol
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#1012 [09:20] <tyteen4a03> for example, if you want to automatically remove minecraft on linux with a shell script, you would do ?? linux/reinst/sh
#1013 [09:20] <lutzee> ?? java/ipv6
#1014 [09:20] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#1015 [09:20] <VoxelHead> java/ipv6: -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#1016 [09:20] <lutzee> thats the one
#1017 [09:20] <zeus_> ok i will minecraft in browser now most mods and texture packs aren't available :d
#1018 [09:20] <aever> i cant even find my .minecraft....
#1019 [09:20] <lutzee> sort of
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#1021 [09:22] <lutzee> ??? aever win/.minecraft
#1022 [09:22] <lutzee> damn
#1023 [09:22] <xales> aever: The reason you have so many problems is because you have so many security programs.
#1024 [09:22] <lutzee> ??> aever win/.minecraft
#1025 [09:22] <VoxelHead> aever: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#1026 [09:22] <NoobFromWiki> How do I add switches to script?
#1027 [09:22] <aever> i found it
#1028 [09:22] <xales> Having more than one will breaks things, some of them have started refusing to install if anything else is installed.
#1029 [09:22] <Mag123> Hello...Im having troubles updating to 1.3
#1030 [09:22] <lutzee> NoobFromWiki, that was for a server but works in a similar way, let me find the right thing
#1031 [09:22] <Mag123> More or less installing Minecraft on my computer
#1032 [09:23] <Mag123> Can anyone help me out as far as that goes???
#1033 [09:23] <xales> Mag123: What, specifically, is the problem?
#1034 [09:23] <NoobFromWiki> double clicking or "open" gets me "The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment istallation or the runtime is corrupted. The system cannot find the specified file."
#1035 [09:23] <lutzee> Mag123, without knowing what happens when, no
#1036 [09:24] <xales> NoobFromWiki: Reformat your computer. If you don't know what that means or how to do that, hire a professional to do it for you.
#1037 [09:24] <aever> i figured out why i was getting that corrupt msg
#1038 [09:24] <Mag123> oh
#1039 [09:25] <lutzee> ^ you have deleted files that had registry entries attached to them
#1040 [09:25] <aever> it says a lot of people fixed it by downloading the offline version of it
#1041 [09:25] <NoobFromWiki> seriously?
#1042 [09:25] <lutzee> aever, thats called pirating it, what firewalls do you have running on your PC?
#1043 [09:25] <Mag123> Everytime i try to open my brower and get a minecraft to download back onto my computer...it stops in the middle of the download
#1044 [09:25] <xales> Mag123: Are you using AVG?
#1045 [09:25] <Mag123> yes
#1046 [09:26] <lutzee> NoobFromWiki, you can do it in a way that will keep your personal files
#1047 [09:26] <aever> ummm im not sure haha
#1048 [09:26] <aever> i have utorrent though can i just do that?
#1049 [09:26] <xales> AVG is pretty crappy and has problems with many things. If you aren't satisfied with it, I would suggest uninstalling it and replacing it with Microsoft Security Essentials. Otherwise, just disable AVG's "LinkScanner Module" from the control panel.
#1050 [09:27] <Mag123> xales, thank you so much
#1051 [09:27] <xales> aever: Uninstall *every* *single* security program from your computer, then pick *one* and install it again. Then try doing things.
#1052 [09:27] <aever> which one would you suggest keeping??
#1053 [09:28] <lutzee> out of free ones availible you want avast or microsoft security essentials
#1054 [09:28] <aever> I have windows firewall, microsoft security essentials, malwarebytes, and AVG
#1055 [09:28] <aever> okay microsoft it is!
#1056 [09:28] <lutzee> remove AVG and Malwarebytes
#1057 [09:28] <aever> yes sir
#1058 [09:29] <Mag123> xales, How do i turn off the linkscanner module???
#1059 [09:29] <xales> Mag123: Do you see the AVG icon in the bottom right hand corner, in the tray?
#1060 [09:29] <Mag123> Yes
#1061 [09:30] <xales> Double click on it
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#1065 [09:31] <Mag123> xales, kk
#1066 [09:31] <Mag123> xales, kk
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#1068 [09:31] <xales> Do you see the LinkScanner Module listed?
#1069 [09:32] <Mag123> Yes...im there, do i turn off the enable surf sheild???
#1070 [09:32] <xales> Yes.
#1071 [09:32] <Mag123> kk...thank you soo much for your help
#1072 [09:33] <NoobFromWiki> lutzee how can i re-format safely, keeping necessary files?
#1073 [09:34] <aever> lutzee, should i download the offline java?
#1074 [09:34] <aever> i uninstalled malwarebytes and AVG
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#1076 [09:35] <Morrolan> NoobFromWiki - Back them up on a flashdrive or similar.
#1077 [09:36] <carhrota> hi there. Is there any way to configure which IP address gets used for LAN games?
#1078 [09:36] <Morrolan> You can specify what internal IP your computer uses, yes.
#1079 [09:36] <Morrolan> Will be somewhere in the adapter settings.
#1080 [09:36] <carhrota> well, I have multiple network cards.
#1081 [09:36] <Morrolan> Oh, that?
#1082 [09:37] <Morrolan> Then you'll want the server-ip field in the properties file.
#1083 [09:37] <Morrolan> There you can specify what IP the Minecraft server binds to.
#1084 [09:37] <carhrota> so: How do I tell it to use eth1 instead of eth0?
#1085 [09:37] <carhrota> I see.
#1086 [09:37] <NoobFromWiki> <Morrolan>k thanks
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#1088 [09:38] <carhrota> Morrolan: where is the server property file located?
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#1090 [09:38] <Morrolan> In the same folder the server executable is.
#1091 [09:39] <Morrolan> Oh, if you're using the "Share world on LAN" feature, then I wouldn't know, haven't tried that one yet.
#1092 [09:39] <carhrota> which is where? I just updated to 1.3, but I don't see the server executable..
#1093 [09:39] <carhrota> yeah, right, that's what I meant, sorry :)
#1094 [09:39] <carhrota> the normal LAN server I used to work with successfully, but I can't find any configuration for the share feature
#1095 [09:40] <Necrodoom> carhrota: you have to download it
#1096 [09:40] <Necrodoom> carhrota: you dont get it with the client
#1097 [09:40] <Morrolan> No clue about that one, sorry. Feel free to stay though, maybe someone else has an idea.
#1098 [09:40] <Morrolan> Necrodoom - Yes you do, 1.3 has a built-in server with which you can share the world.
#1099 [09:40] <Necrodoom> Morrolan: yes, but you dont get an executeable
#1100 [09:40] <Morrolan> Yea.
#1101 [09:41] <carhrota> Necrodoom: so, if I download the standalone server, and put its configuration in $HOME/.minecraft/, it might work?
#1102 [09:42] <Necrodoom> i dont think you can configue the lan server
#1103 [09:42] <Necrodoom> cinfigure*
#1104 [09:42] <Necrodoom> configure*
#1105 [09:42] <carhrota> hm, okay..
#1106 [09:42] <carhrota> is anywhere a "feature request" tracker for minecraft? :p
#1107 [09:42] <Morrolan> Don't think there is.
#1108 [09:42] <carhrota> too bad, alright.
#1109 [09:43] <Morrolan> It'd be too full for anyone to notice your request anyway I think.
#1110 [09:43] <Morrolan> Might be easiest to use a standalone server. :)
#1111 [09:43] <carhrota> I guess so, yes
#1112 [09:43] <carhrota> well, thanks anyway ;)
#1113 [09:45] <carhrota> I shall try the "small suggestions" thread on the forums, maybe someone stumbles upon it there. If not, well, not that big a deal I guess ;)
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#1115 [09:47] <rgjerde> how do you roll back to an older version of minecraft? I can't connect to any servers now that I am on 1.3.1
#1116 [09:47] <Morrolan> *sigh*
#1117 [09:48] <Morrolan> I don't assume you've made backups?
#1118 [09:48] <rgjerde> of course not
#1119 [09:48] <Morrolan> If not you'll have to use a tool like McNostalgia, which most likely isn't updated yet.
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#1121 [09:48] <lutzee> Or ask a friend to put it on a memory stick for you
#1122 [09:49] <Morrolan> That'd work too.
#1123 [09:49] <Morrolan> Would require that not every friend updated immediately though.
#1124 [09:49] <rgjerde> is it just a matter of replacing the old .jar file
#1125 [09:49] <carhrota> or that any friend has made backups :p
#1126 [09:49] <Smanly> Yap
#1127 [09:50] <rgjerde> I can grab it off another computer
#1128 [09:50] <Smanly> Lol
#1129 [09:50] <lutzee> If you have another PC with the 1.2.5 jar file on it you can take that one
#1130 [09:50] <Smanly> Good idea, lutzee!
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#1132 [09:55] <kaye> how can i adjust fov in xbox edition?
#1133 [09:56] <Morrolan> Is it in the settings?
#1134 [09:57] <kaye> i am not seeing it there
#1135 [09:57] <Morrolan> Then you probably can't.
#1136 [09:58] <lutzee> Then chances are its not possible, being on a totally different language and graphics library
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#1138 [09:58] <master_pat> Is the minecraft_server.jar on minecraft.net updated to 1.3.1?
#1139 [09:58] <Smanly> Yes
#1140 [09:58] <Morrolan> It should be?
#1141 [09:58] <Morrolan> Just try it. <.<
#1142 [09:59] <Smanly> That too.
#1143 [09:59] <kaye> i see. i'm not really sure though it's an xbox edition. was there any updates released for this to be fixed?
#1144 [10:00] <Smanly> Who says its broken? :P
#1145 [10:00] <kaye> i am not sure. i'm having issues with the fov though
#1146 [10:00] <Smanly> Issues?
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#1148 [10:01] <kaye> yes
#1149 [10:01] <Smanly> ...
#1150 [10:02] <lutzee> We don't really have much to do with the xbox version here,
#1151 [10:02] <Smanly> ^that too.
#1152 [10:02] <Loin> german here?
#1153 [10:02] <Loin> german here?
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#1155 [10:02] <Smanly> Not that I know of.
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#1157 [10:03] <lutzee> We tend to speak english as its what most will understand.
#1158 [10:03] <Boreeas> Ich spreche deutsch, kann ich dir helfen, Loin?
#1159 [10:03] <lutzee> ^ or that
#1160 [10:03] <Loin> ah super
#1161 [10:03] <Loin> sehr gerne
#1162 [10:03] <Loin> Ich kann 1.3.1 nicht laden. da steht dann was von wegen fatal error
#1163 [10:04] <Boreeas> Kannste du bitte den ganzen Fehler kopieren?
#1164 [10:04] <Loin> jups werd ich machen
#1165 [10:05] <Loin> Fatal error occured (4): /Users/cp/Libary/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#1166 [10:05] <Loin> ich spiele aufm Mac, falls dies eine rolle spielt
#1167 [10:06] <Boreeas> Ah, fatal error, so hilfreich
#1168 [10:06] <Boreeas> Einen moment bitte
#1169 [10:06] <Loin> ok
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#1171 [10:07] <Loin> hab halt gerstern auch zum ersten mal z.B optifine installiert und da musste ich dann halt ordner umbennen und einen löschen.. weiss net ob das auch was damit zu tun hat
#1172 [10:07] <Helloman892> Please, English only.
#1173 [10:08] <lutzee> They are fine
#1174 [10:08] <lutzee> He's getting help from Boreeas
#1175 [10:08] <Helloman892> Oh, ok/
#1176 [10:08] <Helloman892> And he understands German, right?
#1177 [10:08] <lutzee> yeah :p
#1178 [10:08] <Loin> :)
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#1180 [10:09] <Boreeas> Though I would appreciate if anyone else knows anything about that error
#1181 [10:09] <Loin> ?
#1182 [10:10] <Boreeas> Loin: Öffne das Terminal und gib ein: 'java -version'
#1183 [10:10] <Helloman892> I was about to say: Ich spreche kein Deutsch, sprichst du Englisch? (That took alot of translate
#1184 [10:10] <Helloman892> translating XD
#1185 [10:11] <Loin> wo öffne ich das terminal?
#1186 [10:11] <Loin> habs ;)
#1187 [10:12] <Loin> ok, dann?
#1188 [10:12] <Boreeas> Alles klar. Was erscheint im Terminal nachdem du dass kommando eingegeben hast?
#1189 [10:12] <Loin> command not found
#1190 [10:12] <Loin> muss ich ohne die
#1191 [10:13] <Boreeas> Ohne anführungszeichen, ja
#1192 [10:13] <Loin> ah ok, mom
#1193 [10:13] <Loin> java version "1.6.0_33" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_33-b03-424-10M3720) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.8-b03-424, mixed mode) cornelia-putzis-imac-2:~ cp$
#1194 [10:13] <Helloman892> Boreeas: Rough translation of the problem?
#1195 [10:14] <Boreeas> Helloman892: He receives a "Fatal error occured (4): /Users/cp/Libary/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar" when he launches minecraft
#1196 [10:14] <Loin> kann es evtl auch mit dem instalationsprozess von optifine zu tun haben, weil ich da ordner löschen musste usw?
#1197 [10:14] <Helloman892> Got it.
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#1199 [10:14] <Boreeas> Loin: In the terminal, enter 'minecraft', does that work?
#1200 [10:14] <Helloman892> Boreeas: I'll deal with the English fellas, if you don't mind XD
#1201 [10:14] <madhatress> I need help!!!
#1202 [10:14] <xy> madhatress: what do you need help with?
#1203 [10:15] <Helloman892> ??> madhatress telepathy
#1204 [10:15] <Boreeas> Erm, Im Terminal, gib 'minecraft' ein, funktioniert das?
#1205 [10:15] <VoxelHead> madhatress: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1206 [10:15] <xales> Boreeas: It's the chmod-required thing
#1207 [10:15] <xales> I think
#1208 [10:15] <Boreeas> On the minecraft.jar?
#1209 [10:15] <Morrolan> ??< mac/permissions
#1210 [10:15] * Morrolan scratches head
#1210 [10:15] <Morrolan> Maybe. :D
#1211 [10:15] <Loin> nein command not found
#1212 [10:15] <Helloman892> madhatress: Well?
#1213 [10:15] <Boreeas> Loin: Okay, im Terminal, gib ein 'cd /Users/cp/Libary/Application Support/minecraft/bin/'
#1214 [10:16] <xy> ääh, Boreeas, ich denke so wird das nicht funktionieren
#1215 [10:16] <Loin> No such file or directory
#1216 [10:16] <Boreeas> Vermutlich brauchst du anführungszeichen um den pfad
#1217 [10:16] <Boreeas> cd "/Users/cp/Libary/Application Support/minecraft/bin/"
#1218 [10:16] <Morrolan> Don't you have to flag the launcher +x?
#1219 [10:16] <Helloman892> Why are so many of you fluent in German :?
#1220 [10:16] <madhatress> When I try to connect to minecraft servers, it says 'Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset'
#1221 [10:16] <Helloman892> :/
#1222 [10:16] <Boreeas> Ode cd /Users/cp/Libary/Application\ Support/minecraft/bin/
#1223 [10:16] <Morrolan> Helloman892 - Only me and Boreeas from the ops I think.
#1224 [10:16] <xales> madhatress: Have you tried more than one server?
#1225 [10:16] <madhatress> yes
#1226 [10:16] <lutzee> madhatress, have you updated to 1.3
#1227 [10:16] <Helloman892> I've forgotten what that error is, madhatess.
#1228 [10:16] <lutzee> ?
#1229 [10:16] <Loin> No such file or directory, kam bei dem mit anfürhungszeichen
#1230 [10:16] <madhatress> yes
#1231 [10:17] <Helloman892> That's your problem.
#1232 [10:17] <xales> madhatress: Are you using any sort of firewall software?
#1233 [10:17] <lutzee> The servers you are trying to connect to will probably still be 1.2.5
#1234 [10:17] <Helloman892> Most Minecraft servers ar- ^
#1235 [10:17] <Boreeas> Loin: Dann versuch das zweite kommando, cd /Users/cp/Libary/Application\ Support/minecraft/bin/
#1236 [10:17] <Loin> auch nix
#1237 [10:17] <Boreeas> Hrm
#1238 [10:18] <Boreeas> Alles kalr, schritt für schritt dan eben. Funktioniert 'cd /Users'?
#1239 [10:18] <Loin> das ich gestern ordenr gelköscht unbd umbenennt habe kann net das prob sein?
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#1241 [10:18] <madhatress> yes, avast
#1242 [10:18] <mdiax> i cant open minecraft
#1243 [10:18] <mdiax> can someone help?
#1244 [10:18] <Helloman892> madhatress: That's an anti-virus T_T
#1245 [10:18] <Boreeas> Loin: Kann sein, hast du mal ein Force Update versucht?
#1246 [10:18] <madhatress> oh :3 then no i don't have firewall software
#1247 [10:18] <lutzee> madhatress, you have 2 choices, both require some waiting
#1248 [10:18] <Helloman892> mdiax: What _exactly_ happens when you try to open Minecraft?
#1249 [10:18] <Loin> nein, weiss nicht was das ist
#1250 [10:18] <xales> mdiax: Why "can't" you?
#1251 [10:18] <xy> Boreeas: moment mal, heißt der server auf Mac wirklich "minecraft" und nicht ".minecraft" ?
#1252 [10:19] <madhatress> what are they?
#1253 [10:19] <Helloman892> You *don't* know what a firewall is?
#1254 [10:19] <lutzee> Either wait for servers to update or aqquire a 1.2.5 jar from a friend, or wait for MCnostalgia to update
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#1256 [10:19] <Boreeas> xy: Keine ahnung, ich benutze keinen Mac. Ich wollte in jetzt in Application Support bringen und ein 'dir' machen
#1257 [10:19] <Mruk> hello :D
#1258 [10:19] <Helloman892> Mruk: Hi.
#1259 [10:19] * Alex311360 [Alex311360@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1260 [10:19] <Mruk> can anyone help me , i dont get any verification mail'
#1261 [10:19] <Helloman892> ??< dont/bother
#1262 [10:19] <Loin> weiss nicht ob der .minecraft heisst :(
#1263 [10:19] <Boreeas> Loin: Im Launcher gibt es einen Knopf, "Option"
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#1265 [10:19] <xales> Mruk: How long have you waited?
#1266 [10:20] <Mruk> 4 days
#1267 [10:20] <xy> Boreeas: ls -alF und den output in einen Pastebin sagt mehr, das gibt auch die file permissions etc
#1268 [10:20] <Helloman892> http://is.gd/G3zPKi (it's in the topic :D
#1269 [10:20] <xy> (statt "dir"
#1270 [10:20] <Helloman892> )
#1271 [10:20] <xy> )
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#1273 [10:20] <Loin> das steht minecraft im pfad ohne punkt da
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#1275 [10:20] <xy> lol Helloman892, seems we both have the same problem
#1276 [10:20] <xales> Mruk: You either entered your email incorrectly or your email provider rejected the message.
#1277 [10:20] <Helloman892> Yes.
#1278 [10:20] <xy> Mruk: did you check your spam folder?
#1279 [10:20] <christy254> i can't connect to minecraft servers
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#1281 [10:20] <Alex311360> hello
#1282 [10:20] <Helloman892> xy: This happens too much.
#1283 [10:21] <Boreeas> xy: ich bezweifle das der ordner selbe irgendwelche permission genommen kriegt, eher das der jar welche fehlen
#1284 [10:21] <mdiax> when i press dwnload the Minecraft.exe...a windows pops up saying fatalk exception
#1285 [10:21] <Mruk> i know i entered it correctly since when i try again it says that its in use, and im using hotmail
#1286 [10:21] <Helloman892> christy254: Have you updated to 1.3.1?
#1287 [10:21] <Alex311360> I'm having a problem with Minecraft
#1288 [10:21] <christy254> yup
#1289 [10:21] <Alex311360> Whenever I try and update
#1290 [10:21] <Boreeas> Ich wollte nur sehen, wie der ordner in Application Support heißt
#1291 [10:21] <Alex311360> on any version at all
#1292 [10:21] <Corin> christy254, that's why.
#1293 [10:21] <Alex311360> It will freeze the download in place
#1294 [10:21] <xy> mdiax: which browser are you using?
#1295 [10:21] <Helloman892> christy254: Most servers are 1.2.5.
#1296 [10:21] <christy254> oh
#1297 [10:21] <xales> Mruk: Well, you can try resending it, but if you still don't get it, then hotmail is rejecting the message.
#1298 [10:21] <Loin> gestern musste ich halt nen jar ordner zu zip machen und dann diesen löschen wegen optifine instalation
#1299 [10:21] <mdiax> internet explorer
#1300 [10:21] <christy254> ok thx!
#1301 [10:21] <mdiax> it worked before like a long time ago but not now
#1302 [10:22] <Boreeas> Loin: Das klingt als könnte es das Problem ein
#1303 [10:22] <Mruk> its not in the junkmail folder either.. and my friend uses a hotmail account as well and he got his, altho its like 1 year ago
#1304 [10:22] <Alex311360> Can anyone help me with my problem?
#1305 [10:22] <Boreeas> Loin: Starte den launcher, klick "Options" statt "Login" und dann auf "Force Update"
#1306 [10:22] * Helloman892 thinks there's just a little too many people needing help
#1306 [10:22] <Helloman892> :/
#1307 [10:22] <xales> Alex311360: Are you using AVG?
#1308 [10:22] <Loin> ok
#1309 [10:22] <christy254> but is there a way that i can still connect to them or...?
#1310 [10:22] <Alex311360> Yes, already allowed the EXE on Identity Protection and Resident Shield
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#1312 [10:22] <Boreeas> Helloman892: Welcome to "New Release Hell"
#1313 [10:22] <xales> Alex311360: Disable the "LinkScanner Module"
#1314 [10:22] <Corin> No christy254
#1315 [10:22] <Corin> You need to downgrade
#1316 [10:22] <Alex311360> i'll try that and see what happens
#1317 [10:22] <Helloman892> christy254: You'll need to grab a 1.2.5 minecraft.jar.
#1318 [10:23] <christy254> ok thx
#1319 [10:23] <Helloman892> Boreeas: I'm guessing this stops in about a week?
#1320 [10:23] <Boreeas> If we are lucky
#1321 [10:23] <Helloman892> Woah.
#1322 [10:23] <mdiax> so...whats going on?
#1323 [10:23] <Alex311360> I could only turn off the Surf-Shield, is that OK
#1324 [10:23] <Alex311360> that's part of linkscanner
#1325 [10:23] <Loin> ehm, ich hab die gestern gelöschten ordner noch
#1326 [10:23] <Helloman892> You must have had alot of sh*t when 1.2+ got released.
#1327 [10:24] <Loin> soll ich sonst da was machen?
#1328 [10:24] <xy> mdiax: perhaps you should try using another browser (you could install firefox/chrome/opera portable, this should not have any side effects)
#1329 [10:24] <Alex311360> ok, disabling surf-shield fixed it
#1330 [10:24] <Boreeas> Loin: Ignorier sie einfach
#1331 [10:24] <Alex311360> Thank you ^w^
#1332 [10:24] <mdiax> alright let nme try
#1333 [10:24] <Loin> ok einfach force update
#1334 [10:24] <Loin> ?
#1335 [10:24] <Boreeas> Ja
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#1337 [10:24] <Loin> dann?
#1338 [10:25] <Helloman892> I can talk in German too: Ich heisse Helloman892.
#1339 [10:25] <Boreeas> Loin: Funktioniert Minecraft jetzt?
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#1341 [10:25] <xy> Helloman892: Wirklich? aber dir fehlt die [ß]-Taste! :P
#1342 [10:25] <Loin> ne jetzt kommt ne ähnliche fehlmeldung
#1343 [10:25] <TheBokscast> Hwllo
#1344 [10:25] <Helloman892> xy: :D
#1345 [10:26] <TheBokscast> Hello
#1346 [10:26] <Helloman892> TheBokscast: Hiya.
#1347 [10:26] <Helloman892> Biya.
#1348 [10:26] <Helloman892> [/lolimakenosense]
#1349 [10:26] <Boreeas> Loin: Ähnlich in wie fern?
#1350 [10:26] <Loin> zusätzlich zur alten meldung steht noch: Retrieving: lwjgl_util.jar 18%
#1351 [10:27] <mdiax> ok i tryed with firefox and when i download it and try to run it a window by the name "java virtual Machine Launcher" saya: Fatal exception ocurred. Program will exit.
#1352 [10:27] <mdiax> tried
#1353 [10:27] <xy> mdiax: ummmm, which version of java are you using?
#1354 [10:27] <Helloman892> mdiax: ^
#1355 [10:27] <Helloman892> Lol
#1356 [10:28] <mdiax> i think its the newest one 7 i think
#1357 [10:28] <Helloman892> There's your problem.
#1358 [10:28] <Helloman892> ??> mdiax java/ipv6
#1359 [10:28] <VoxelHead> mdiax: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#1360 [10:28] <VoxelHead> mdiax: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#1361 [10:28] <Helloman892> Or indeed, to start your Minecraft fullstop.
#1362 [10:29] <lutzee> But that won't help
#1363 [10:29] <mdiax> so where do i go then?
#1364 [10:29] <Helloman892> It will, if you use the wonderful magic of BATCH FILES
#1365 [10:29] <lutzee> he needs to use one of the methods to add it to the lauch params
#1366 [10:29] <lutzee> mdiax, right click on your minecraft.exe file (the launcher) and select properties
#1367 [10:29] <Helloman892> Well, I thought that that factoid included a link.
#1368 [10:30] <lutzee> oh might have to use a standard jar launcher
#1369 [10:30] <lutzee> i forget
#1370 [10:30] <mdiax> lutzee: ok
#1371 [10:30] <Boreeas> Loin: Hmm. Gib im Terminal bitte 'cd /Users/cp/Library/Application' ein, drück Tab, dann erst Enter
#1372 [10:31] <Loin> ok
#1373 [10:31] <Loin> hab
#1374 [10:31] <mdiax> so what do i do next?
#1375 [10:31] <Helloman892> Who knows...
#1376 [10:31] <lutzee> Ahh ffs, my memory fails, theres other options
#1377 [10:31] <mdiax> so what should i do :(
#1378 [10:32] <lutzee> open notepad
#1379 [10:32] <Boreeas> Loin: Was sagt das terminal jetzt wo du bist?
#1380 [10:32] <mdiax> note pad?
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#1382 [10:32] <Loin> Application Support cp
#1383 [10:32] <lutzee> er yeah start > programs > accessories > notepad
#1384 [10:32] <Helloman892> mdiax: Notepad, the wonderful thing that comes with all Windows PCs.
#1385 [10:33] <mdiax> yea
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#1387 [10:33] <mdiax> yea yea i know
#1388 [10:33] <Loin> also so: Application Support cp$
#1389 [10:33] <tmac2223> my mincraft wont open
#1390 [10:33] <Helloman892> tmac2223: What *exactly* happens when you try to open Minecraft?
#1391 [10:33] <lutzee> okay once you have notepad open type "java --Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -jar minecraft.exe"
#1392 [10:34] <tmac2223> nothing when i click on it nothing happens. it acts like it wants to open but then it doesnt
#1393 [10:34] <Boreeas> Loin: Alles klar, gib bitte 'dir | grep minecraft' ein
#1394 [10:34] <lutzee> do save as > save as launcher.bat and change the file type to all file types then click save
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#1396 [10:34] <xales> tmac2223: Are you on a Mac?
#1397 [10:34] <tmac2223> yes
#1398 [10:34] <lutzee> save it to where your minecraft.exe is
#1399 [10:34] <Helloman892> xales: GODDAMN YOU XD
#1400 [10:34] <xales> ??> tmac2223 mac/permissions
#1401 [10:34] <tmac2223> but i have had it befor
#1402 [10:35] <xales> ._.
#1403 [10:35] <xales> ??> tmac2223 mac/permissions
#1404 [10:35] <VoxelHead> tmac2223: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1405 [10:35] <VoxelHead> tmac2223: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1406 [10:35] <Loin> command not found
#1407 [10:36] <tmac2223> will the thing is i had i before but i wouldnt update so i deleted it and now since i redownloaded it it wont open
#1408 [10:36] <tmac2223> i had it before
#1409 [10:36] <Helloman892> tmac2223: No idea.
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#1411 [10:36] <Merpanator100> hello
#1412 [10:36] <xales> tmac2223: Follow VoxelHead's instructions.
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#1414 [10:37] <Boreeas> Loin: Funktionier nur 'dir'
#1415 [10:37] <Merpanator100> How come when i try to join a server in 1.3.1 its say coneection reset?
#1416 [10:37] <lutzee> Merpanator100, the servers your atr trying to connect to have not updated to 1.3.1 yet
#1417 [10:37] <Helloman892> Merpanator100: Most server's are still 1.2.5.
#1418 [10:38] <Merpanator100> Ok how do they update to 1.3.1?
#1419 [10:38] <xales> Merpanator100: Whenever the server admin updates it.
#1420 [10:38] <Loin> nein leider auch nicht
#1421 [10:38] <Merpanator100> Ok thanks for your help
#1422 [10:38] <lutzee> Merpanator100, wait till the admins update the server,
#1423 [10:38] <Boreeas> Loin: Funktionier 'ls'?
#1424 [10:39] <Loin> kommt das: AddressBook Calculator Firefox MobileSync minecraft AppStore Console Garmin Mozilla Battle.net CrashReporter Hewlett-Packard Skype Blizzard Curse Client Mail SyncServices
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#1426 [10:40] <Boreeas> Loin: Alles klar. Gib ein 'ls -al' und kopier den output zu pastebin.
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#1428 [10:41] <Loin> wo ist pastebin?
#1429 [10:41] <Helloman892> www.pastebin.com
#1430 [10:41] <Helloman892> Boreeas: You explain :D
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#1432 [10:42] <DJSyther> I just love 1.3. But I keep crashing. Here is the most recent crash report, I have 2 others if you want them.
#1433 [10:42] <DJSyther> http://pastebin.com/DyzizLuG
#1434 [10:42] <Loin> kannst du meion eintrag dann da löschen?^^
#1435 [10:42] <xXAnnieXx> how can i get a 1.2.5 minecraft jar
#1436 [10:42] <Hiroto8> I tried to update the new version 1.3.1 from the update prompt that i got when I started the Minecraft. But I got an error "Failed to lauch. Fatal error occured (4): error writing to server"
#1437 [10:43] <Helloman892> xXAnnieXx: Your friends.
#1438 [10:43] <Boreeas> Loin: Du kannste einen paste privat machen, dann kommen nur personen mit dem link dran, und du kannstsagen das es automatisch verschwinden soll
#1439 [10:43] <Boreeas> Nach X Stunden, etc.
#1440 [10:43] <Loin> oke, ich komm da irgendwie net draus, aber habs mal gemacht
#1441 [10:43] <Loin> was nun?
#1442 [10:43] <xales> DJSyther: Not much we can help with, you can try reporting it on the forum, see if anyone else has a similar issue possibly.
#1443 [10:44] <xales> Hiroto8: Try again.
#1444 [10:44] <Hiroto8> I have tried several times
#1445 [10:44] <Hiroto8> And rebooted the laptop
#1446 [10:44] <DJSyther> xales: Quick question, when I got the error (on SSP) it said Internal Server Error. Do you have anything on that?
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#1448 [10:45] <Helloman892> DJSyther: I do.
#1449 [10:45] <DJSyther> Helloman892: Explain?
#1450 [10:45] <xales> Hiroto8: What OS? Windows, Mac, other?
#1451 [10:45] <Boreeas> Loin: Gib uns den link
#1452 [10:45] <Helloman892> An internal server is run upon making a new world in 1.3.1+
#1453 [10:45] <Hiroto8> Windows
#1454 [10:45] <xales> ??> Hiroto8 win/reinst
#1455 [10:45] <DJSyther> I know that....
#1456 [10:45] <VoxelHead> Hiroto8: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1457 [10:45] <VoxelHead> Hiroto8: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1458 [10:45] <Loin> http://pastebin.com/QLPGB5zj
#1459 [10:45] <Helloman892> Yes. *Internal server* error.
#1460 [10:46] <DJSyther> Helloman862, anything about my pastebin? http://pastebin.com/DyzizLuG
#1461 [10:46] <Helloman892> I'll take a look.
#1462 [10:46] <Helloman892> And it's '892'.
#1463 [10:46] <DJSyther> Oop.
#1464 [10:46] <DJSyther> Sorry.
#1465 [10:47] <Helloman892> DJSynther: Your RAM looks a little sketchy.
#1466 [10:47] <Helloman892> Not RAM*
#1467 [10:47] <DJSyther> ...
#1468 [10:47] <Helloman892> I mean, totla allocated RAM
#1469 [10:47] <Helloman892> total*
#1470 [10:48] <xales> Helloman892: That's actually the default, which is fine
#1471 [10:48] <Helloman892> xales: Oh, thanks.
#1472 [10:48] <Boreeas> Loin: versuch mal 'mv minecraft .minecraft'
#1473 [10:48] <Helloman892> DJSynther: Looks to me like the game's pointing to some non-existant files.
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#1475 [10:49] <DJSyther> I have 3 mods installed.
#1476 [10:49] <Loin> kommen tu da nix, aber es steht auch nichts von wegen not found oder so
#1477 [10:49] <DJSyther> TMI, REI Minimap, and HD Patcher.
#1478 [10:49] <Helloman892> That may be it, and remember:
#1479 [10:49] <Helloman892> ?? mods
#1480 [10:49] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1481 [10:49] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1482 [10:49] <Boreeas> Loin: Ich habe leider keine idee was da falsch läuft
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#1484 [10:49] <Helloman892> If it's modded, we may not be able to help/.
#1485 [10:49] <Boreeas> Morrolan: Do you have any idea?
#1486 [10:49] <DJSyther> Hmmmm....
#1487 [10:50] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Apart from mac/permissions? Not really, no.
#1488 [10:50] <Helloman892> Also, your Java version is known to be incompatible.
#1489 [10:50] <DJSyther> I'll try uninstalling some mods.
#1490 [10:50] <Helloman892> I think
#1491 [10:50] <Loin> hmm, das mitm order welchen ich gelöscht habe und so? könnte man da evtl was machen um alles wieder auf anfang zu stellen?
#1492 [10:50] <DJSyther> It always works fine for me.
#1493 [10:50] <Boreeas> Eh, can't hurt, I guess
#1494 [10:50] <DJSyther> I never have a problem.
#1495 [10:50] <einand> so, my new security system works fine :)
#1496 [10:50] <mdiax> ok im back sorry about that
#1497 [10:50] <Boreeas> Loin: Force update sollte genau das tun
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#1499 [10:50] <Loin> aha ok
#1500 [10:50] <xales> Helloman892: The (x) of (y) of (z), x is how much is currently in use, y is how much Java can use, and z is how much Java will use before it starts allocating more (with sbrk() or however) and focus on garbage collection
#1501 [10:50] <hockeyguy16627> hi
#1502 [10:50] <Boreeas> ??> loin mac/permissions
#1503 [10:50] <VoxelHead> loin: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1504 [10:50] <VoxelHead> loin: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#1506 [10:51] <moonofevil> Woo 1.3!!
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#1508 [10:51] <hockeyguy16627> how do i go back to 1.2.5
#1509 [10:51] <Boreeas> Loin: Versuch das mal, vielleicht hilft das, vermutlich aber nicht
#1510 [10:51] <xales> Helloman892: err, s/starts/stops/
#1511 [10:51] <Helloman892> xales: I know...
#1512 [10:51] <moonofevil> Yeah i wanna know that too
#1513 [10:51] <xales> hockeyguy16627: Unless you have a backup, you don't
#1514 [10:51] <Boreeas> hockeyguy16627: Do you have a backup?
#1515 [10:51] <moonofevil> Darn
#1516 [10:51] <moonofevil> Wait
#1517 [10:51] <moonofevil> i do
#1518 [10:51] <moonofevil> Yay
#1519 [10:51] <hockeyguy16627> man i just made a server
#1520 [10:51] <moonofevil> backing up from mods Helps alot
#1521 [10:51] <Loin> kannst du mir das evtl kurz übersetzten, was ich nun genau machen muss?^^
#1522 [10:51] <Helloman892> ??> moonofevil dont/spam
#1523 [10:51] <VoxelHead> moonofevil: (dont/spam) We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#1524 [10:51] <hockeyguy16627> how do i make a 1.3.1 server
#1525 [10:51] <Mike683> so umm how come I cant get into my server? it keeps saying end of stream yet it says its up and running this new patched messed up everything
#1526 [10:52] <moonofevil> ok.
#1527 [10:52] <Helloman892> I meant flood, but oh well
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#1529 [10:52] <Loin> chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub das in terminal eingeben?
#1530 [10:52] <Boreeas> Loin: Ja
#1531 [10:52] <xales> hockeyguy16627: Just download the latest server software.
#1532 [10:52] <hockeyguy16627> ok
#1533 [10:52] <Boreeas> Evt. musst du das als sudo laufen lassen
#1534 [10:52] <Helloman892> ??< dont/flood
#1535 [10:52] <FearTehWhale> I can't Change my skin I've tried Several times and it never changes
#1536 [10:52] <hockeyguy16627> then just fo the same thing that i did
#1537 [10:53] <Loin> alkso das geht nix.. sduo?
#1538 [10:53] <xales> FearTehWhale: What's your Minecraft username?
#1539 [10:53] <xales> hockeyguy16627: Yes.
#1540 [10:53] <hockeyguy16627> ok thanks
#1541 [10:53] <Boreeas> Loin: Geht nicht mit welchem fehler?
#1542 [10:53] <Helloman892> xales: I'll do it :D
#1543 [10:53] <hockeyguy16627> mine
#1544 [10:53] <FearTehWhale> FearTehWhale
#1545 [10:53] <Helloman892> !paid FearTehWhale
#1546 [10:53] <hockeyguy16627> hockeyguy16627
#1547 [10:53] <Loin> No such file or directory
#1548 [10:53] <mdiax> so i saved the launcher.bat where my minecraft.exe is and now what?
#1549 [10:53] <Helloman892> Ok, it's not that.
#1550 [10:53] <Mike683> how can I download the latest software for the server with out loseing my server? im on a mac
#1551 [10:54] <hockeyguy16627> you cant
#1552 [10:54] <xales> Mike683: You won't "lose your server." Just download it and replace the old jar file.
#1553 [10:54] <Helloman892> Mike683: You download it like you did before.
#1554 [10:54] <Helloman892> And then ^
#1555 [10:54] <hockeyguy16627> how
#1556 [10:54] <hockeyguy16627> ?
#1557 [10:54] <Helloman892> mdiax: Run it.
#1558 [10:54] <Mike683> so I just need to replace it?
#1559 [10:54] <xales> Mike683: Correct.
#1560 [10:54] <hockeyguy16627> just downlods jar
#1561 [10:54] <Mike683> thanks :D
#1562 [10:54] <mdiax> no nothing happened
#1563 [10:55] <Boreeas> Loin: Wie startest du Minecraft normalerweise?
#1564 [10:55] <mdiax> the same window came out
#1565 [10:55] <Helloman892> ??> hockeyguy16627 only/you
#1566 [10:55] <VoxelHead> hockeyguy16627: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#1567 [10:55] <VoxelHead> hockeyguy16627: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#1568 [10:55] <Loin> musste gestern auch meta-Inf ordner löschen, weiss net ob das hilft
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#1570 [10:55] <xales> mdiax: Uninstall Java, every version that you have installed, then install it again from java.com
#1571 [10:55] <FearTehWhale> Is there anyway to fix it?
#1572 [10:55] <Boreeas> Loin: Wie gesagt, Force Update sollte das alles rückgänig machen aber dein Problem tritt viel füher auf
#1573 [10:55] <mdiax> ok ual Machine Launcher Fatal
#1574 [10:55] <xales> FearTehWhale: It may take some time for the change to take effect.
#1575 [10:55] <Loin> ah alles klar
#1576 [10:56] <xales> FearTehWhale: You have checked in-game, correct?
#1577 [10:56] <Helloman892> FearTehWhale: What xales said :/
#1578 [10:56] <hockeyguy16627> ok sorry
#1579 [10:56] <Helloman892> xales: Stop stealing my answers
#1580 [10:56] <FearTehWhale> Yes
#1581 [10:56] <xales> Helloman892: It's not a competition
#1582 [10:56] <Boreeas> Yes it is!
#1583 [10:56] <Loin> Timeviewer..?^^
#1584 [10:56] <Boreeas> Damn Kill stealer!
#1585 [10:56] <Helloman892> xales: I know, I meant to put a smilie.
#1586 [10:56] <mdiax> ok JavaTM 6 update 20 uninstalling
#1587 [10:56] <xales> Boreeas: No, I mean
#1588 [10:56] <xales> it's not a competition because I'm winning so much, that it doesn't qualify as competing
#1589 [10:57] <xales> just you getting steamrolled. :p
#1590 [10:57] <Helloman892> mdiax: You still have 6u20?
#1591 [10:57] <Boreeas> :P
#1592 [10:57] <jimbolaya> Hello. I just installed 1.3.1 and I've been having problems with nether portals.
#1593 [10:57] <jimbolaya> When I return to the from the Nether, I get stuck in the wall and die.
#1594 [10:57] <mdiax> fuck thought i had 7
#1595 [10:57] <mdiax> probably was on the other computer
#1596 [10:57] <Loin> omg es geht plötzlich :D
#1597 [10:57] <Helloman892> mdiax: Please try to keep it civil... >.<
#1598 [10:57] <Boreeas> Loin: So, wie startest du Minecraft normalerweise?
#1599 [10:57] <mdiax> well im unistalling anyways and ill install it
#1600 [10:57] <Boreeas> Loin: Oh, okay
#1601 [10:57] <Boreeas> Loin: Dann hat sich das erledigt
#1602 [10:57] <FearTehWhale> @xales so I just need to wait?
#1603 [10:58] <Boreeas> Loin: Viel spaß beim spielen
#1604 [10:58] <Loin> uiui, ich danke dir viel viel mals, du bist mein Held :D
#1605 [10:58] <xales> FearTehWhale: Correct. You've tried restarting the game as well, right?
#1606 [10:58] <Boreeas> Hab ja nicht viel gemacht :P
#1607 [10:58] <Helloman892> FearTehWhale: No need for the @, lol.
#1608 [10:58] <Loin> nur noch ne kurze frage
#1609 [10:58] <xy> jimbolaya: that might be because of the world you are playing in, create another world, does it happen in there, too?
#1610 [10:58] <mdiax> soryy about that mmah good man
#1611 [10:58] <xy> Loin: sprich
#1612 [10:58] <jimbolaya> xy: I don't know. I'm connecting to my remote server at home.
#1613 [10:58] <Loin> hab ich jetzt optifine nicht mehr drauf?
#1614 [10:58] <FearTehWhale> OH alright haha Yes I've tried Multiple times and it just stays the same
#1615 [10:58] <mdiax> i have to clse this ail be back
#1616 [10:58] <Boreeas> Loin: Nein, vermutlich nicht
#1617 [10:59] <Boreeas> Sorry
#1618 [10:59] <carhrota> Loin: und OptiFine gibt's auch für 1.3 noch nicht
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#1620 [10:59] <xy> Loin: alle mods werden weg sein
#1621 [10:59] <Loin> und texturepacks muss ich warten bis die 1.3.1 geupdatet sund bevor ich diese laden und spielen kann?
#1622 [10:59] <Boreeas> Laden kannst du sie trotzdem. Alle blöcke die neu hinzugefügt werden erscheinen dann lila und ohne texturen
#1623 [10:59] <Loin> das is kein problem ;).. ah oke, hehe.. Die werden aber schon schnell wieder 1.3.1 rdy gemacht ne?
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#1626 [11:00] <Guest> hello
#1627 [11:00] <Helloman892> Hello.
#1628 [11:00] <Boreeas> Loin: Normalerweise schon, ja
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#1630 [11:00] <Loin> oke :)..
#1631 [11:00] <mdiax_> wiiii im here
#1632 [11:00] <Guest> anyone else having problems with the 1.3 server ?
#1633 [11:00] <Helloman892> mdiax_: I see your username changed.
#1634 [11:01] <Loin> hui bin ich nun beruhigt :D..
#1635 [11:01] <mdiax_> oh no
#1636 [11:01] <Helloman892> Guest: Yes, I don't know what Jens did :/
#1637 [11:01] <xales> Guest: What, specifically, is your issue?
#1638 [11:01] <jimbolaya> Guest: I was having issues with the nether portal.
#1639 [11:01] <mdiax_> ok installing javaau5
#1640 [11:01] <Loin> dann wärs das ne..? ich muss nun nicht noch etwas spezielles beachten oder so..?
#1641 [11:01] <mdiax_> java7u5
#1642 [11:01] <mdiax_> no i dsont want the ask tool bar
#1643 [11:01] <Helloman892> Lol
#1644 [11:02] <Boreeas> Loin: Das wärs. Sei aber vosichtig beim installieren von mods, nicht das alles wieder kaputt geht ;)
#1645 [11:02] <Guest> 1st of all, it doesn't work
#1646 [11:02] <Loin> joa werd ich :).. oha all meine Wleten sind weg :(?
#1647 [11:02] <Guest> the minecraft-server.jar file is only 63 kilobytes
#1648 [11:02] <mdiax_> hey that guy is from nebraska
#1649 [11:02] <xales> Guest: Download it again.
#1650 [11:02] <Boreeas> Nö, die Welten sollten noch da sein
#1651 [11:02] <Guest> say it's supposed to be over 1400 KB
#1652 [11:02] <Loin> bei mir ist die Liste leer
#1653 [11:03] <xy> Guest: try downloading again?
#1654 [11:03] <Guest> yeah, i tried that
#1655 [11:03] <jimbolaya> Guest: Yes, it's 1799890 according to my machine.
#1656 [11:03] <Guest> the specific error messages.....
#1657 [11:03] <Boreeas> Loin: Du kannst versuchen im Application SUpport ordner nach alten minecraft/.minecraft ordener zu suchen und gucken ob sich welten darin befinden
#1658 [11:03] <Loin> oke werd ich kurz machen :)
#1659 [11:04] <Boreeas> Aber wenn da nichts ist, können wir dir auch nicht weiterhelfen, tut mir leid
#1660 [11:04] <xy> Guest: try downloading https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar with another browser / with a download manager
#1661 [11:04] <mdiax_> ok all downloaded
#1662 [11:04] <Guest> 10:03:52 Setting up 10:03:52 Loading level 10:03:52 Now accepting input on 25565 10:03:53 Level saved! Load: 0/16 10:03:53 To connect directly to this server, surf to: http://www.minecraft .net/classic/play/141b12df3a5896708f345850f193c6fa 10:03:53 (This is also in externalurl.txt) *** 10:04:31 Error in main loop, server shutting down! java.lang.RuntimeException: IOException while ticking sockets
#1663 [11:04] <Boreeas> Loin: Alles klar, ich ban dann auch erst mal weg. Wenn noch was ist, wende dich an xy oder Morrolan
#1664 [11:04] <Guest> sorry
#1665 [11:05] <Boreeas> Die sprechen beide deutsch
#1666 [11:05] <xales> Guest: That would be the Classic server.
#1667 [11:05] <mdiax_> woop woop it open thank you people
#1668 [11:05] <Helloman892> ??>> Guest dont/flood
#1669 [11:05] <mdiax_> well thanks helloman892
#1670 [11:05] <Guest> that's the only link i saw ?
#1671 [11:05] <xales> Guest: http://www.minecraft.net/download
#1672 [11:05] <Guest> thanks xales ! lol
#1673 [11:05] <mdiax_> woop woop
#1674 [11:05] <Helloman892> mdiax_: No problem? [/wasthatsarcastic]
#1675 [11:05] <Loin> ich finde leider nichts :(
#1676 [11:06] <mdiax_> no all runs great
#1677 [11:06] <xy> Guest: If you want to paste a long text, use a pastebin, paste the text into http://pastebin.ca/ and press submit, then give us the URL
#1678 [11:06] <mdiax_> yay
#1679 [11:06] <mdiax_> good b ye
#1680 [11:06] <mdiax_> letmine craft?
#1681 [11:06] <Helloman892> xy: Why the Canadian site?
#1682 [11:06] <xy> Helloman892: because this pastebin has the nicest features.
#1683 [11:06] <xales> xy: http://hastebin.com/ better :p
#1684 [11:06] <Guest> Error: Unable to access jarfile minecraft-server.jar Press any key to continue . . .
#1685 [11:06] <xy> Hastebin?
#1686 [11:06] <mdiax_> well now its just stuck at loading minecraft great
#1687 [11:06] <mdiax_> ....
#1688 [11:07] <mdiax_> :/
#1689 [11:07] <xales> mdiax_: Do you have AVG?
#1690 [11:07] <Helloman892> xales: HOLY JESUS THTS AWESOME
#1691 [11:07] <mdiax_> nope
#1692 [11:07] <xales> Do you have *any* antivirus/firewall program?
#1693 [11:07] <mdiax_> it says Updating MInecraft and at the one below Done Loading
#1694 [11:07] <xy> xales: actually not really, it does not have the "expire" options i like :P
#1695 [11:07] <Helloman892> Anyone who cares: http://hastebin.com/qijiwebosu.css
#1696 [11:07] <mdiax_> yes
#1697 [11:08] <Helloman892> [/especiallyxales]
#1698 [11:08] <xales> ??> mdiax_ win/reinst
#1699 [11:08] <VoxelHead> mdiax_: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1700 [11:08] <VoxelHead> mdiax_: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1701 [11:08] <xy> i wonder, is there a list of VoxelHead's factoids somewhere?
#1702 [11:08] <mdiax_> re install minecraft?
#1703 [11:08] <Helloman892> Yes.
#1704 [11:09] <Helloman892> ??>> xy index
#1705 [11:09] <Morrolan> ??>> xy index
#1706 [11:09] <Morrolan> Haha.
#1707 [11:09] <Helloman892> Lol, Morrolan.
#1708 [11:09] <xy> hah, lol
#1709 [11:09] <xales> mdiax_: Follow VoxelHead's instructions.
#1710 [11:09] <xy> thanks, lol
#1711 [11:09] <Helloman892> xy: No probs :D
#1712 [11:09] <mdiax_> wow i dont have anything only the bin folder
#1713 [11:10] <Morrolan> mdiax_ - Sounds like security software to me.
#1714 [11:10] <xy> and how to use VoxelHead in PM? just /msg VoxelHead factoidname?
#1715 [11:10] <Helloman892> No.
#1716 [11:10] <Morrolan> You could use ##voxelhead if you want to read factoids, but he might also respond to PMs.
#1717 [11:10] <Morrolan> As for using it, there's a factoid for that somewhere. ^^
#1718 [11:11] <xales> ??>> Morrolan help
#1719 [11:11] <Morrolan> That's the one.
#1720 [11:11] <Morrolan> A factoid about how to access factoids, how utterly useful. :D
#1721 [11:11] <xales> :D
#1722 [11:11] <mdiax_> yup only bin folder there
#1723 [11:11] <Helloman892> ??>> Helloman892 help
#1724 [11:11] <xy> Is there a minecraft plugin/filter/whatever (should be able to analyse minecraft packets then) for wireshark?
#1725 [11:11] <Helloman892> [/confusion]
#1726 [11:12] <xales> mdiax_: Delete it
#1727 [11:12] <xales> then run Minecraft again
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#1730 [11:12] <mdiax_> the bin folder or the whole .minecraft folder?
#1731 [11:12] <Helloman892> Doesn't matter.
#1732 [11:12] <Morrolan> xy - Use a proxy like mc3p (Python) or that .NET one.
#1733 [11:12] <Guitarguy1133> so in creative mode u dont have to have enchanting XP to enchant gear?
#1734 [11:12] <Helloman892> No.
#1735 [11:12] <Guitarguy1133> cool. thought maybe it was a bug =)
#1736 [11:12] <Guitarguy1133> nvm
#1737 [11:13] <xy> Morrolan: will that work under linux?
#1738 [11:13] <xy> (the mc3p one, i hate mono so i probably won't try the .NET one=
#1739 [11:13] <mdiax_> t bin folder or the or evertything
#1740 [11:13] <xy> *)
#1741 [11:13] <Morrolan> xy - Python? Yes, that works under Linux.
#1742 [11:13] <xales> mdiax_: Again, it doesn't matter.
#1743 [11:13] <xales> Just delete it.
#1744 [11:13] <mdiax_> ok
#1745 [11:13] <xy> Morrolan: i mean the python proxy. i know that python works :P
#1746 [11:13] <Morrolan> Well, if Python works, any python software will work just fine. ;)
#1747 [11:14] <Morrolan> https://github.com/mmcgill/mc3p is where it can be found, by the way. :)
#1748 [11:14] <mdiax_> ok minecraft deleetd
#1749 [11:14] <xy> Morrolan: i already experienced python softwares which only work under windows :P
#1750 [11:15] <Morrolan> Blame the programmers then. ^^
#1751 [11:15] <mdiax_> well nothing here
#1752 [11:16] <xales> mdiax_: Run it again...
#1753 [11:16] <mdiax_> its the same
#1754 [11:16] <Morrolan> xy - If you need assistance with that one, there's people familiar with it in #mcdevs on Freenode. :)
#1755 [11:17] <xy> Morrolan: okay, nice to know
#1756 [11:17] <xales> Morrolan: I'm out of practice :(
#1757 [11:17] <xales> Morrolan: Minecraft freeze on "Done loading" wat do
#1758 [11:17] <Morrolan> xales - I hate this kind of issues too. ;(
#1759 [11:17] <mdiax_> yeah its the same
#1760 [11:17] <mdiax_> froze at done loading
#1761 [11:18] <xales> Morrolan: Well...
#1762 [11:18] <xales> mdiax_: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
#1763 [11:18] <Morrolan> I tend to let them launch it through terminal and give me the full error message, praying that I'll be able to do something with that.
#1764 [11:18] <mdiax_> the somputer?
#1765 [11:18] <mdiax_> computer?
#1766 [11:18] <xales> mdiax_: No, the toaster.
#1767 [11:18] <xales> Yes, of course, the computer.
#1768 [11:18] <mdiax_> alright the toaster it is
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#1770 [11:19] <Morrolan> No, don't turn off the toaster. D:
#1771 [11:19] <Morrolan> Just put two slices of bread in there.
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#1774 [11:21] <Morrolan> xy - Oh, an updated version of mc3p can be found here: https://github.com/sadimusi/mc3p
#1775 [11:22] <Morrolan> Just noticed that I linked you to the one where development stopped a while ago
#1776 [11:22] <xy> mmmkay
#1777 [11:22] <xy> cloning that repo
#1778 [11:23] <xy> Morrolan: umm, that updated version requires more modules, lol
#1779 [11:23] <xy> it uses python-gevent
#1780 [11:24] <Morrolan> Mhm.
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#1782 [11:25] <Silva> hello everyone
#1783 [11:26] <Silva> could someone please help me with my minecraft client? i try to connect to an inofficial server from a friend (i play with a group of friends at his server). but, maybe because of the latest update, i'm unable to connect now.
#1784 [11:27] <xales> ??> Silva smp/recentupdate
#1785 [11:27] <VoxelHead> Silva: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1786 [11:27] <VoxelHead> Silva: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#1787 [11:27] <Silva> well. i kind of understand that.
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#1789 [11:27] <Silva> so i thought of the process of downgrading my own client
#1790 [11:27] <mdiax> hello
#1791 [11:27] <Silva> i would only need the binaries of the 1.2 version
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#1793 [11:28] <Silva> and when the server is upgraded, i can switch back to version 1.3. wouldn't that be the easiest solution for now?
#1794 [11:28] <xales> Indeed. You'd need to either have a backup, or use a utility such as MCNostalgia (once it's updated), however.
#1795 [11:28] <mdiax> im here again and couldnt opne minecraft again
#1796 [11:28] <xales> mdiax: Try re-installing Java again.
#1797 [11:28] <Silva> hm.
#1798 [11:28] <mdiax> again
#1799 [11:28] <mdiax> i justdid that
#1800 [11:28] <mdiax> ok
#1801 [11:29] <Silva> well. this is where things go fatally wrong. i didn't make an backup *sigh*
#1802 [11:29] <xales> Silva: You could try asking a friend that has not yet updated, or something like that
#1803 [11:29] <Silva> so i just want to ask around if someone could give me the 1.2.5 binaries which got replaced recently
#1804 [11:29] <bryce> i have a mac and everytime i try to open the downloaded minecraft it won't open i have the newest version of java though and it says that mine craft isn't responding HELP
#1805 [11:29] <Silva> well i already thought of it. but i don't want to stress them. uh, but it seems like that this is what i'm doing here now.
#1806 [11:30] <xales> bryce: When does it say that? As soon as you open it, or after you log in?
#1807 [11:30] <mdiax> dbye java for the second time today
#1808 [11:30] <xales> Silva: Well, there's not much we can do. Distributing the game outside of permitted methods is against the license agreement.
#1809 [11:30] <Silva> really?
#1810 [11:30] <xales> Indeed.
#1811 [11:30] <bryce> well i open the application and nothing whatsoever happens so i click on the application details and it says application not responding
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#1813 [11:30] <Silva> oh you're right o.O i didn't thought of that. it would be illegal, because the binaries are licensed.
#1814 [11:31] <bryce> and so i redownloaded it and reopened it and it still didn't work
#1815 [11:31] <xales> ??> bryce mac/permissions
#1816 [11:31] <VoxelHead> bryce: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1817 [11:31] <VoxelHead> bryce: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1818 [11:31] <Silva> ok.
#1819 [11:31] <Silva> i understand that situation now.
#1820 [11:31] <Silva> thank you for your help.
#1821 [11:31] <Silva> keep up your good support. bye :)
#1822 [11:31] <xales> Silva: yep, good luck finding a solution
#1823 [11:31] <xales> Silva: yep, good luck finding a solution
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#1826 [11:31] <bryce> VoxelHead: do i copy and paste that command?
#1827 [11:33] <xales> VoxelHead: That is one way to do it, yes.
#1828 [11:33] <xales> err
#1829 [11:33] <xales> bryce: *
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#1831 [11:34] <bryce> Thanks so much it worked!
#1832 [11:36] <mdiax3000> so im downloading java again
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#1835 [11:37] <mdiax3000> ?
#1836 [11:38] <mdiax3000> its anybody out there?
#1837 [11:38] <xales> mdiax3000: No, nobody but you. You are all alone in the world.
#1838 [11:38] <mdiax3000> wy
#1839 [11:38] <mdiax3000> why
#1840 [11:38] <mdiax3000> WHY?????
#1841 [11:38] <mdiax3000> Ok downloaded java again
#1842 [11:38] <mdiax3000> let me try and opne minecraft again
#1843 [11:39] <mdiax3000> nothing again
#1844 [11:39] <mdiax3000> the same thing
#1845 [11:39] <mdiax3000> is it because its the demo?
#1846 [11:40] <xales> What do you mean, demo?
#1847 [11:40] <mdiax3000> the demo
#1848 [11:40] <xales> Have you not purchased Minecraft?
#1849 [11:40] <mdiax3000> no but you can play a demo
#1850 [11:40] <xales> Eventually, yes, but that may not be functional at the moment
#1851 [11:40] <Abc> Hello, can i get help?
#1852 [11:41] <mdiax3000> now with the new update now there is a demo yay
#1853 [11:41] <lutzee> Abc, if you tell us the problem we can try and help
#1854 [11:41] <mdiax3000> i havent purchased the game and i know this sucks
#1855 [11:41] <Abc> i have problems with the textures
#1856 [11:41] <mdiax3000> i only have the one for ipod and xbox
#1857 [11:41] <xales> mdiax3000: Well, that would probably be why it isn't working then. We can't provide support with demos.
#1858 [11:42] <mdiax3000> alrighty thank you
#1859 [11:42] <lutzee> Abc, what is happening?
#1860 [11:42] <Abc> wait
#1861 [11:42] <mdiax3000> thanks everyone for the help
#1862 [11:42] <Abc> can i upload a photo?
#1863 [11:42] <Abc> and you see
#1864 [11:42] <Abc> i put a link here
#1865 [11:42] <lutzee> okay sure, use imgur
#1866 [11:42] <mdiax3000> d offer any help with the xbox version?
#1867 [11:42] <xales> mdiax3000: Try the wiki for that.
#1868 [11:42] <Abc> sorry if my English isn't very good
#1869 [11:42] <mdiax3000> awww
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#1871 [11:43] <Abc> i use "postimage.org"
#1872 [11:43] <lutzee> Abc go ahead
#1873 [11:43] <Abc> is it ok?
#1874 [11:43] <lutzee> yeah
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#1876 [11:43] <minercrafter20> i just bought the game a couple of weeks ago then they made an update and now i cant play at all why
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#1878 [11:44] <yngmrmoon> I am having problems recieving the verification e-mail for a new account. I've been waiting for three days and still no e-mail
#1879 [11:44] <xales> Why can't you?
#1880 [11:44] <Abc> look http://postimage.org/image/4q89q8zr3/full/
#1881 [11:44] <minercrafter20> i dont know i can open the launcher but it wont launch
#1882 [11:44] <xales> yngmrmoon: Are you sure you used the right email? Have you tried resending it? Tried registering a different account?
#1883 [11:44] <Morrolan> Abc - Check whether your graphics driver forces AA or simlar.
#1884 [11:45] <Abc> hello?
#1885 [11:45] <xales> minercrafter20: If you just say "doesn't work" or "won't launch" that means nothing to us. Describe, as specifically as possible, exactly what happens.
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#1887 [11:45] <Morrolan> Abc - You can check whether that's the case in AMD's catalyst center or nvidia's equivalent.
#1888 [11:45] <mdiax3000> oye ABC si necesitas ayuda en traducir algo yo te puedo ayudar
#1889 [11:45] <mdiax3000> ABC
#1890 [11:45] <Abc> hola
#1891 [11:45] <mdiax3000> que onda
#1892 [11:45] <Abc> a ver que me estoy liando bastante
#1893 [11:45] <coropus> hi What is wrong with the new minecraft?
#1894 [11:45] <xales> coropus: What is the problem you are experiencing?
#1895 [11:45] <mdiax3000> dime que paso?
#1896 [11:46] <Abc> se tiene que hablar por aqui o por mensaje privado?
#1897 [11:46] <mdiax3000> por aqui esta bien
#1898 [11:46] <coropus> it freezes when installing new minecraft.jar
#1899 [11:46] <Abc> que no me cargan bien las texturas
#1900 [11:46] <Abc> mira otra foto
#1901 [11:46] <xales> coropus: Do you have AVG?
#1902 [11:46] <mdiax3000> si ya la vi
#1903 [11:46] <minercrafter20> i open the login for the launcher but when i click the login it wont work and the whole of the launcher breaks down btw i have 1.2.5
#1904 [11:46] <coropus> yes why?
#1905 [11:46] <yngmrmoon> I have tried to resend the verification and nothing. I tried to register a new account with a new name and the same e-mail and it says the e-mail is already in use. I try to request the usename associated with the e-mail and nothing ever gets sent.
#1906 [11:46] <Abc> http://postimage.org/image/dzag0d8n3/full/
#1907 [11:46] <xales> That would be the problem.
#1908 [11:46] <mdiax3000> estas usando algun pacther?
#1909 [11:46] <mdiax3000> patcher?
#1910 [11:46] <Abc> lo usé, pero ya no
#1911 [11:46] <coropus> should i uninstall?
#1912 [11:46] <xales> coropus: Disable the "LinkScanner Module" and/or "Surf-safe shield"
#1913 [11:46] <coropus> ok
#1914 [11:46] <xales> yngmrmoon: Register a new account with a different email
#1915 [11:46] <xales> coropus: That, or uninstall it.
#1916 [11:47] <mdiax3000> ok dejame preguntar aqui
#1917 [11:47] <Abc> gracias
#1918 [11:47] <xales> minercrafter20: Again, "won't work" or "breaks down" means *nothing*. Exactly what does it say, or do?
#1919 [11:47] <xales> If you aren't capable of explaining it, then we can't help you.
#1920 [11:47] <mdiax3000> ok...ABC says that the textures he has arent working
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#1922 [11:47] <mdiax3000> entonces las texturas no se ven
#1923 [11:47] <xales> mdiax3000: They need to disable antialiasing in the ATI/AMD/NVIDIA control panel
#1924 [11:48] <Abc> yo "desinstalé" minecraft y lo instalé de nuevo
#1925 [11:48] <minercrafter20> nothing it does nothing at all thats whats wrong can i get a refund if this problem continues
#1926 [11:48] <mdiax3000> minecraft no es el problema
#1927 [11:48] <xales> minercrafter20: Are you on a Mac?
#1928 [11:48] <Abc> borré todos lo de roaming y todo eso
#1929 [11:48] <minercrafter20> no dell home computer why
#1930 [11:48] <Abc> mis drivers de la tarjeta grafica están bien y actualizados
#1931 [11:48] <xales> minercrafter20: Does the problem occur before you click "login", or after?
#1932 [11:48] <mdiax3000> xales: so he should go to the ATI/AMD?Nvidia control panel
#1933 [11:49] <Abc> antes lo veía bien
#1934 [11:49] <mdiax3000> and disable it?
#1935 [11:49] <minercrafter20> after
#1936 [11:49] <xales> mdiax3000: Yes
#1937 [11:49] <yngmrmoon> my son already has two e-mail accounts with usernames tied to them in Minecraft. Neither of his e-mail accounts are getting e-mails. We created this latest account because minecraft wasn't sending e-mail to the first.
#1938 [11:49] <mdiax3000> pero antes usabas un patcher que no?
#1939 [11:49] <minercrafter20> actually if i click anything it wont let me do anything else
#1940 [11:49] <xales> yngmrmoon: The site has been having some difficulty, especially with the latest update. It may just take time.
#1941 [11:49] <Abc> yo usé varios patchers
#1942 [11:49] <xales> ??> minercrafter20 forceupdate
#1943 [11:49] <Abc> para los texture packs
#1944 [11:49] <VoxelHead> minercrafter20: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1945 [11:49] <VoxelHead> minercrafter20: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1946 [11:49] <mdiax3000> y porque no los usas ahora?
#1947 [11:49] <Abc> porque si los ponia en la carpeta de texture packs no funcionaban
#1948 [11:49] <Abc> y necesitaban unos patchers
#1949 [11:50] <Abc> ahora lo tengo normal todo
#1950 [11:50] <mdiax3000> exacto porque ay varias texturas que se deben usar con patchers
#1951 [11:50] <yngmrmoon> well, he can't buy the game until he gets the account. you think they would want that fixed pretty quick
#1952 [11:50] <minercrafter20> ok ill come back if that doesnt work thanks xale and voxel
#1953 [11:51] <Abc> entonces
#1954 [11:51] <mdiax3000> aqui en el foro dicen que tienes que hacer "disable" deabilitarlo en tu tarjeta ATI/AMD?NVIDia de la que tengas
#1955 [11:51] <Abc> como?
#1956 [11:51] <mdiax3000> should he use like MCPAtcher for the textures?
#1957 [11:51] <mdiax3000> ve al panel de control
#1958 [11:51] <xales> mdiax3000: Nope
#1959 [11:51] <mdiax3000> why not
#1960 [11:52] <xales> MCPatcher is only if they are trying to use HD textures
#1961 [11:52] <mdiax3000> he says that he use to use it for the textures but now he is not
#1962 [11:52] <lutzee> default, but he has anti aliasing active
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#1964 [11:52] <minercrafter20> back it wont let me open options either
#1965 [11:52] <mdiax3000> dicen wque tienes el anti aliasing activo
#1966 [11:52] <xales> minercrafter20: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
#1967 [11:53] <Abc> vale... como lo he puesto y como lo quito?
#1968 [11:53] <minercrafter20> if you mean my computer yes several times
#1969 [11:53] <xales> minercrafter20: Have you tried reinstalling Java?
#1970 [11:53] <mdiax3000> he does not know how to turn it off
#1971 [11:53] <xales> mdiax3000: Then they should find out, using Google or such
#1972 [11:53] <minercrafter20> yes i believe my dad did do that
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#1974 [11:54] <Abc> espera un momento, voy a hacer otro screenshot
#1975 [11:54] <xales> minercrafter20: Are you sure?
#1976 [11:54] <mdiax3000> gente payasa
#1977 [11:54] <kosta7025575> Hi can someone please help me?
#1978 [11:54] <xales> ??> kosta7025575 ask
#1979 [11:54] <VoxelHead> kosta7025575: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1980 [11:54] <VoxelHead> kosta7025575: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1983 [11:54] <mdiax3000> bueno ellos dicen que uses google o alguna cosa asi para ver como lo prendiste y para que veas como lo apagas
#1984 [11:54] <minercrafter20> pretty ure i saw the downloaded screen and the word java and upload in it
#1985 [11:54] <aever> Can anyone explain to me how to load mods onto my minecraft game?
#1986 [11:55] <xales> ??> aever mods
#1987 [11:55] <VoxelHead> aever: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1988 [11:55] <VoxelHead> aever: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1989 [11:55] <minercrafter20> sure and words*
#1990 [11:55] <Abc> ...
#1991 [11:55] <xales> minercrafter20: Well, please check.
#1992 [11:55] <mdiax3000> pues si
#1993 [11:55] <xy> aever: #risucraft is the channel about modding.
#1994 [11:55] <Abc> y eso del MCPatcher?
#1995 [11:55] <kosta7025575> ok so i got the update right well then I started having trouble for some reson like when I open my world it glitches and gets me back to the titile screen and then goes into my world
#1996 [11:55] <mdiax3000> vete a panel de control
#1997 [11:55] <Abc> es eso a lo mejor?
#1998 [11:55] <xy> kosta7025575: are there any error messages?
#1999 [11:55] <xales> kosta7025575: Were you using any mods before you updated?
#2000 [11:56] <mdiax3000> ABC: vete a donde esta tu tarjeta de video
#2001 [11:56] <kosta7025575> no their are no error message and yes I was using mods while I was updating to 1.3 and mc patcher
#2002 [11:56] <xy> kosta7025575: Did you use content-changing mods?
#2003 [11:56] <kosta7025575> no
#2004 [11:56] <Abc> espera... creo que ahora me va bien, un momento
#2005 [11:56] <xales> kosta7025575: What mods *did* you use?
#2006 [11:56] <xy> i mean mods which add new items/blocks
#2007 [11:57] <Abc> que he tocado una cosa de la configuracion de nvidia
#2008 [11:57] <kosta7025575> I think I had x ray on and thats it
#2009 [11:57] <minercrafter20> yes he did
#2010 [11:57] <xales> minercrafter20: Okay...when you click on "Options," *exactly* *what* does it do?
#2011 [11:57] <mdiax3000> como?
#2012 [11:57] <xales> kosta7025575: Does the problem occur if you make a new world?
#2013 [11:57] <Abc> con esto, mira... espera que hago la foto
#2014 [11:57] <mdiax3000> ok
#2015 [11:57] <xy> kosta7025575: umm, mcpatcher should not break things, but perhaps the xray mod is the evil one.
#2016 [11:58] <minercrafter20> the same thing when i click login
#2017 [11:58] <xales> minercrafter20: Which is...?
#2018 [11:58] <Abc> http://postimage.org/image/kr0v37xmn/
#2019 [11:58] <Abc> es eso creo
#2020 [11:59] <kosta7025575> The problem accures when I make worlds and when I go into them for axample you know how their have that loading bar that says building trraring well now their are just the words no bar and their are two words showsn when I load my world or make it
#2021 [11:59] <minercrafter20> nothing and the and then it wont let me try anything else i already told you what it did
#2022 [11:59] <mdiax3000> que?
#2023 [11:59] <mdiax3000> no no creo que sea nada de eso
#2024 [11:59] <xales> minercrafter20: Does it just stop? Does it eventually say "Program not responding"? Every time I've asked you, you have left something out, which makes it very difficult to help you.
#2025 [11:59] <Abc> si si
#2026 [12:00] <Abc> si que es eso
#2027 [12:00] <mdiax3000> porque no tendria nada que ver que le allas puesto en calidad o en rednimiento
#2028 [12:00] <Abc> mira
#2029 [12:00] <Abc> si
#2030 [12:00] <Abc> porque tenia algo de analising y todas esas cosas
#2031 [12:00] <Abc> entonces le he dado a restaurar
#2032 [12:00] <Abc> mira como se ve ahora
#2033 [12:00] <mdiax3000> pero si ves que minecraft usa OPanGL
#2034 [12:00] <minercrafter20> no it does not the launcher freezes up where is the other one that helped me
#2035 [12:00] <Abc> http://postimage.org/image/iaz1pdfjz/full/
#2036 [12:00] <mdiax3000> OpenGL quise decir
#2037 [12:01] <Abc> mira lo que cambié
#2038 [12:01] <Abc> http://postimage.org/image/8rpcvws1r/
#2039 [12:01] <minercrafter20> voxel wheres voxel hes the other one who helped me
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#2041 [12:01] <mdiax3000> ok el juego se ve bien sin distorsiones
#2042 [12:02] <mdiax3000> eso era lo que querias?
#2043 [12:02] <Abc> pero entonces como lo dejo ahora?
#2044 [12:02] <xales> minercrafter20: VoxelHead is not a person.
#2045 [12:02] <Abc> porque claro, yo quiero se me vean los juegos bien
#2046 [12:02] <mdiax3000> eu tarjeta de video?
#2047 [12:02] <mdiax3000> pues que no estaria mejor que dejaras asi
#2048 [12:02] <mdiax3000> el juego se ve bien
#2049 [12:02] <Abc> pero por ejemplo
#2050 [12:02] <Abc> yo con otro juego
#2051 [12:02] <Abc> lo probé
#2052 [12:02] <mdiax3000> pero qu no el problema era lo deas textuas?
#2053 [12:02] <Abc> a poner la barra en calidad
#2054 [12:02] <kosta7025575> so you guys got anyway to help me?
#2055 [12:02] <Abc> y se veía mal
#2056 [12:02] <xy> minercrafter20: VoxelHead is a program which can tell you about specific factoids.
#2057 [12:02] <xales> ??> kosta7025575 forceupdate
#2058 [12:03] <VoxelHead> kosta7025575: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2059 [12:03] <VoxelHead> kosta7025575: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2060 [12:03] <Abc> mira, lo voy a probar poniendolo en calidad
#2061 [12:03] <mdiax3000> ok
#2062 [12:03] <xy> xales: gaaah, i wanted to do exactly that, you're too fast
#2063 [12:03] <mdiax3000> la foto pasada la tenias en rendimiento o en calidad
#2064 [12:03] <xales> :p
#2065 [12:03] <mdiax3000> ?
#2066 [12:03] <kosta7025575> I know I did that many times does not work
#2067 [12:03] <Abc> pues
#2068 [12:03] <Abc> le he dado
#2069 [12:03] <xy> kosta7025575: which version of java are you using?
#2070 [12:03] <Abc> a configuracion avanzada
#2071 [12:03] <Abc> o sea personalizada
#2072 [12:03] <Abc> y alli tenia todo mal
#2073 [12:04] <kosta7025575> I am preaty surethe latest one
#2074 [12:04] <Abc> entonces le he dado a restaurar
#2075 [12:04] <Abc> salia en la foto
#2076 [12:04] <Abc> y entonces se ha quedado todo a desactivado y asi
#2077 [12:04] <minercrafter20> oh but it sounds like your all on a script for my problem though beecause you skipped my other part of my question which was can i get a refund if the problem continues
#2078 [12:04] <xy> kosta7025575: so java 1.7?
#2079 [12:04] <xy> ??> kosta7025575 java/1.7
#2080 [12:04] <VoxelHead> kosta7025575: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#2081 [12:05] <mdiax3000> entonces con cual esta mejor?
#2082 [12:05] <xales> minercrafter20: No. First of all, we are community support, and have nothing to do with Mojang. Second, Mojang will not give you a refund because you are unable to operate your computer.
#2083 [12:05] <kosta7025575> Well is their anyway I can check wich one i am using?
#2084 [12:05] <Abc> mira
#2085 [12:05] <Abc> si lo pongo en calidad se ve mal
#2086 [12:05] <Abc> eso por que es? http://postimage.org/image/jtufucm4f/full/
#2087 [12:06] <Abc> porque se supone que lo pongo en calidad, los juegos se verán mejor
#2088 [12:06] <Abc> también hay una opción que pone "dejar elegir a la aplicación"
#2089 [12:06] <Abc> puede que esa opcion sea la mejor, no? en el caso de que siempre elija bien
#2090 [12:06] <minercrafter20> i am not unable it works with everything else but minecraft i love the game but im more frusterated now than the days we tried to figure out why it didnt work by ourselves
#2091 [12:07] <kosta7025575> So, is their i way I can find out wich java version I am using
#2092 [12:07] <mdiax3000> ahi se ve bien el juego no?
#2093 [12:07] <mdiax3000> es la misma foto de ahorita
#2094 [12:07] <Abc> si lo pongo
#2095 [12:07] <Abc> en
#2096 [12:07] <Abc> avanzada y lo dejo en restaurar
#2097 [12:07] <Abc> esta todo apagado
#2098 [12:07] <mdiax3000> si
#2099 [12:07] <Abc> entonces digo yo que es mejor
#2100 [12:07] <Abc> la opcion de
#2101 [12:07] <Abc> que el programa elija
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#2103 [12:07] <Abc> asi si es minecraft supongo que automaticamente lo deja apagado
#2104 [12:07] <mdiax3000> deja que la aplicacion use la de preferencia porque ay programas asi que corren con las opciones que ya estan programadas
#2105 [12:07] <Abc> y si es battlefield a lo mejor lo enciende
#2106 [12:08] <Abc> sabes lo que digo no?
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#2108 [12:08] <xales> kosta7025575: Yes. Open the Java Control Panel-let
#2109 [12:08] <NinjaKirby> Butacas
#2110 [12:08] <xales> minercrafter20: The problem you are experiencing is with your Java installation.
#2111 [12:08] <kosta7025575> were do I open that?
#2112 [12:08] <xales> It's not even specific to Minecraft.
#2113 [12:08] <xales> kosta7025575: Open the control panel, and click Java.
#2114 [12:09] <kosta7025575> umm yes were is the controll panel i am sorry I am not that good at this stuff
#2115 [12:09] <Abc> sabia que podia ser eso porque ya me pasó una vez, que yo lo puse en calidad pero resulta que no se veía en calidad... y como en la imagen de nvidia 3d pues contra mas calidad, mejor se ve, pues yo le puse calidad para que en los juegos se viera la calidad
#2116 [12:09] * SgtTraveler|afk [SgtTraveler|afk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2117 [12:09] <kosta7025575> found it I think
#2118 [12:09] <mdiax3000> si exacto
#2119 [12:09] <mdiax3000> y como ves en minecraft
#2120 [12:10] <minercrafter20> i higly doubt that i worked for this game and i should get a refund for the fact ofit worked before but is stopped working and if you cant help me then put someone on me who can
#2121 [12:10] <mdiax3000> ahi mismo tiene para mejorar la calidad del juego en las opciones para que corra mejor mas bien y alguns texturas hacen que se vea mejkor
#2122 [12:10] <Abc> ahora se ve bien
#2123 [12:10] <Abc> lo he dejado en "dejar elegir a la aplicacion"
#2124 [12:10] <kosta7025575> ok I clicked it and when I clikc it it opens and closes right away
#2125 [12:10] <xales> ??> minercrafter20 attitude
#2126 [12:10] <VoxelHead> minercrafter20: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#2127 [12:10] <VoxelHead> minercrafter20: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
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#2129 [12:11] <Abc> pero supongo que todos los demás juegos me irán a la perfección
#2130 [12:11] <xy> xales: nice factoid *notes that down*
#2131 [12:11] <Abc> porque si desactivo todo eso de filtro anisotropico y esas cosas se verá mal
#2132 [12:11] <mdiax3000> si eso si
#2133 [12:11] <mdiax3000> de donde eres?
#2134 [12:11] <minercrafter20> sok its just i love the game and havent been able to play it and i thought you could help but obviesly i was mistaken
#2135 [12:11] <Abc> y yo quiero que los juegos que lo admitan, se vean bien, y los que no, como minecraft se vean bien tambien
#2136 [12:11] <Abc> de españa
#2137 [12:11] <mdiax3000> oh mira que bien
#2138 [12:12] <kosta7025575> xales:when I open the java controll panes it closes right sway what do I do?
#2139 [12:12] <mdiax3000> lo deduje por tu acento
#2140 [12:12] <Abc> xD
#2141 [12:12] <mdiax3000> pero si eso esta mejro
#2142 [12:12] <Abc> bueno no he hablado
#2143 [12:12] <xales> kosta7025575: Completely uninstall every version of Java, then install the latest version from java.com
#2144 [12:12] <mdiax3000> bueno por tu gramatica
#2145 [12:12] <Abc> ya ya
#2146 [12:12] <Abc> y una cosa
#2147 [12:12] <mdiax3000> si?
#2148 [12:12] <Abc> puede ser por mi tarjeta grafica?
#2149 [12:13] <kosta7025575> so delte that one in my controll panel xales?
#2150 [12:13] <mdiax3000> no
#2151 [12:13] <Abc> porque a lo mejor con el analising se ve mal porque es una tarjeta mala
#2152 [12:13] <mdiax3000> tarjeta tienes?
#2153 [12:13] <Abc> gtx 460
#2154 [12:13] <xales> kosta7025575: No, you have to uninstall Java, like you would uninstall anything else.
#2155 [12:13] <Abc> no es lo mejor, pero está bastante bien
#2156 [12:13] <mdiax3000> mmmm
#2157 [12:13] <mdiax3000> cuanto ram tiene tu pc?
#2158 [12:13] <kosta7025575> xales how do I do that?
#2159 [12:13] <Abc> pone que 4 pero que son 3.6 utilizables
#2160 [12:13] <mdiax3000> ok
#2161 [12:14] <MoreLikeAMoon> hi there. the LAN-publish is broken on linux (and maybe OSx too) because is will open the server on 127.0.1.1 ( read from /etc/hosts ) it this a known bug?
#2162 [12:14] <Abc> bueno, 3.50
#2163 [12:14] <xales> kosta7025575: In the Control Panel, if you are on XP, go to "Add/Remove Programs." If you are on Vista/7, go to "Programs and Features"
#2164 [12:14] <mdiax3000> dejame darte una pagina donde ahi yo vi como usar minecraft a un modo mas optimizdo y eso
#2165 [12:14] <xales> MoreLikeAMoon: It's operating exactly as it should; the problem is with your distro (namely, Ubuntu) doing something stupid that it shouldn't do.
#2166 [12:15] <mdiax3000> y eso que nyo no tengo minecraft
#2167 [12:15] <mdiax3000> jajaja
#2168 [12:15] <Abc> tengo pensado comprarme un ordenador de 16 gb de ram y una grafica muy buena, como la gtx 670, 680 o 690, aunque creo que la 690 es gastar el dinero porque es demasiado, no sé si tu sabes de tarjetas de esa calidad
#2169 [12:15] <mdiax3000> saes
#2170 [12:16] <MoreLikeAMoon> xales: ok and how i can fix this? our network is withour fixed IP adresses.
#2171 [12:16] <mdiax3000> sabes que no se mucho pero si es cierto lo de gastar demasiado dinero
#2172 [12:16] <Abc> es que lo que me da rabia
#2173 [12:16] <Abc> es que en cada tienda me dicen una cosa
#2174 [12:16] <mdiax3000> sy esta muy mal preguntarle a la gente de la misma tienda ell
#2175 [12:16] <mdiax3000> a ellos no les importa tan solo quieren hacer dinero
#2176 [12:16] <xales> MoreLikeAMoon: Don't use DHCP, or fix your hosts file, or whatever.
#2177 [12:17] <Abc> con un ordenador de 1700€ me dicen que tengo de sobras
#2178 [12:17] <Abc> pero despues otro me dice que no
#2179 [12:17] <Abc> que necesito 2500€
#2180 [12:17] <Abc> y otro me dice que con 1200€ tengo de sobra
#2181 [12:17] <mdiax3000> pues es que depende mucho en que la vayas a usar
#2182 [12:17] <Abc> es que se lo dejo bien claro
#2183 [12:17] <Abc> para jugar a todos los juegos
#2184 [12:17] <Abc> todos
#2185 [12:17] <Abc> al maximo
#2186 [12:17] <mdiax3000> ok
#2187 [12:17] <Abc> y que nunca vaya lento
#2188 [12:17] <mdiax3000> pues si
#2189 [12:17] <Abc> y aun asi me pregunta
#2190 [12:18] <Abc> pero que juego
#2191 [12:18] <mdiax3000> mira siempre va a ver un problema
#2192 [12:18] <Abc> varios
#2193 [12:18] <kosta7025575> xales ok i am in but I see to java icons the first one says this java(TM) 6 update 25 and then the second one says this java(TM) 7 update (64-bit)
#2194 [12:18] <mdiax3000> con los juegos nunca los vas a poder jugar sin problemas siempre va a ver algo
#2195 [12:18] <kosta7025575> two*'
#2196 [12:18] <Abc> y que los optimizan para determinadas marcas
#2197 [12:18] <xales> kosta7025575: Remove both of them
#2198 [12:19] <MoreLikeAMoon> xales: minecraft should fix the system to get the right ip adress... I can not enter every network and/or hosts file just to correct that :D
#2199 [12:19] <kosta7025575> k
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#2201 [12:19] <xales> MoreLikeAMoon: It's not a problem with Minecraft, it's a problem with your distro.
#2202 [12:19] <xales> It shouldn't have multiple hosts entries for one system.
#2203 [12:19] <Minecrafter> i need help with minecraft
#2204 [12:19] <xales> Minecrafter: Well, yes, why else would you be here?
#2205 [12:20] <Minecrafter> lol
#2206 [12:20] <xales> If you want help, perhaps you should think about explaining what the problem is.
#2207 [12:20] <mdiax3000> y nomas compraste el computador asi o lo construiste?
#2208 [12:20] <Abc> cual
#2209 [12:20] <Abc> el que tengo ahora?
#2210 [12:20] <mdiax3000> si
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#2212 [12:20] <Abc> es que tuve 2
#2213 [12:20] <Minecrafter> but um i bought the game yesterday and i cant login to the minecraft launcher cause it says im not premium
#2214 [12:20] <Abc> uno lo montó un amigo de mi hermano
#2215 [12:20] <Abc> y era un chapucero
#2216 [12:20] <Abc> y este me lo regalaron
#2217 [12:20] <Abc> asi que no me dijeron nada
#2218 [12:21] <Abc> y no lo elegí yo
#2219 [12:21] <mdiax3000> oh ok ok
#2220 [12:21] <Abc> yo no se montarlos
#2221 [12:21] <mdiax3000> o ok
#2222 [12:21] <Abc> y prefiero comprarlos ya completos
#2223 [12:21] <MoreLikeAMoon> xales: the Problem is that minecraft single player publish dont work, so its a problem with minecraft (caused of bad configs maybe) but in the end its just a minecraft problem
#2224 [12:21] <xales> Minecrafter: Have you checked with your bank/financial institution to see if the transaction went through?
#2225 [12:21] <Abc> lo veo mas seguro
#2226 [12:22] <mdiax3000> bueno dejame darte la pagina para
#2227 [12:22] <mdiax3000> si puedes leer ingles no?
#2228 [12:22] <Abc> si si
#2229 [12:22] <xales> MoreLikeAMoon: The problem is that your system is misconfigured. Regardless, I've told you how to fix it. Arguing where the fault lies is irrelevant.
#2230 [12:22] <Abc> bastante bien
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#2232 [12:22] <Minecrafter> um im just a teen and ? how...
#2233 [12:22] <Abc> pero para explicar el problema no sabia que palabras usar xD
#2234 [12:22] <ryancollin21> hey can someone help me?
#2235 [12:22] <xales> Minecrafter: Ask your parents then.
#2236 [12:22] <ryancollin21> is there a way to download this minecraft version but get my old 1.2.5 version?
#2237 [12:22] <lutzee> ryancollin21, if you tell us the problem
#2238 [12:23] <lutzee> No
#2239 [12:23] <Minecrafter> will do
#2240 [12:23] <xales> ryancollin21: If you back up the older version, you can keep it, yes
#2241 [12:23] <kosta7025575> ok I have uninstlled java xales now you want me to get witch java version can you give me the link?
#2242 [12:23] <Necrodoom> ryancollin21: backup old .minecraft
#2243 [12:23] <xales> You could use programs such as "MultiMC" but keep in mind we do not support those programs
#2244 [12:23] <ryancollin21> wat do u mean back it up :O
#2245 [12:23] <xales> ??> kosta7025575 getjava
#2246 [12:23] <VoxelHead> kosta7025575: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2247 [12:23] <Abc> ah... una cosa, que es OpenGL?
#2248 [12:23] <lutzee> ryancollin21, copy the old game files to another location
#2249 [12:23] <ryancollin21> so make an old folder and replace it every time i want to play minecraft?
#2250 [12:24] <ryancollin21> a new folder
#2251 [12:24] <kosta7025575> ok I am downloading it right now xales
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#2253 [12:24] <kosta7025575> ok it is done downloading should I drag it to my desk top or what?
#2254 [12:24] <Abc> sigo aqui
#2255 [12:24] <xales> ryancollin21: You could switch the folders every time, sure. Or use an alternate launcher such as MultiMC. Note however, that we do not support doing this, you are on your own to do it or find help elsewhere.
#2256 [12:24] <xales> kosta7025575: Just run it.
#2257 [12:25] <mdiax3000> ok
#2258 [12:25] <mdiax3000> espera
#2259 [12:25] <kosta7025575> ok doing that right now
#2260 [12:25] <mdiax3000> es ue la tenia en mi ipod
#2261 [12:25] <ryancollin21> do i take out the whole .minecraft or do i take out the file inside of minecrafT?
#2262 [12:25] <Abc> no creo que vaya a tener problemas con el rendimiento
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#2264 [12:25] <xales> ryancollin21: You should copy the entire directory
#2265 [12:26] <kosta7025575> ok I have installed it now what or are we done?
#2266 [12:27] <xales> kosta7025575: Try running Minecraft again
#2267 [12:27] <Groenstein> Hello, does anyone else here having problems with traveling between dimensions carrying an eye of ender in the inventory?
#2268 [12:27] <Abc> bueno... otra vez...
#2269 [12:27] <kosta7025575> should I force update to?
#2270 [12:27] <Abc> a veces me da mucho lag el minecraft
#2271 [12:27] <xales> Groenstein: I have not heard of any such issues, no. I'd try reporting it on the forum, possibly checking the wiki for known issues.
#2272 [12:27] <xales> kosta7025575: It doesn't matter.
#2273 [12:28] <mdiax3000> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/
#2274 [12:28] <kosta7025575> xales it still does the same thing
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#2276 [12:28] <Abc> 2 cosas
#2277 [12:28] <Abc> 1: que es el openGL?
#2278 [12:29] <pilotbaker11> How do I make a shortcut for my desktop to play minecraft?
#2279 [12:29] <mdiax3000> son unas cosas para porder que corra mejor minecraft sin lag
#2280 [12:29] <Abc> entonces
#2281 [12:29] <mdiax3000> la verdad no se
#2282 [12:29] <xales> pilotbaker11: Put the launcher on your desktop.
#2283 [12:29] <Abc> lo activo o no?
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#2285 [12:29] <mdiax3000> soy medio nuevo a esto tambien
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#2287 [12:29] <mdiax3000> mira en la pina que te mande ya la estas viendo?
#2288 [12:29] <kosta7025575> xales what should I do now?
#2289 [12:29] <Abc> si, un poco
#2290 [12:30] <Groenstein> xales: that would be much appreciated. I've tried to do it twice: first time, i've fell out of the world (LOL), second time i've crafted an ender chest and then traveled again, then the eye of ender "magically" desapeared from my inventory and appeared in the ender chest
#2291 [12:30] <Abc> pero a veces me dan lagazos
#2292 [12:30] <Abc> y es imposible hacer nada
#2293 [12:30] <Abc> y no es porque me vaya lento
#2294 [12:31] <billy> i just got the update for minecraft and now its saying all my multiplaer servers are outdated. what do i do?
#2295 [12:31] <slowfi> it doesn't make mathematical sense to call the nether and the end "dimensions", they're just different spaces from the normal minecraft world
#2296 [12:31] <xales> billy: Wait for the servers to update
#2297 [12:31] <billy> how long will that take?
#2298 [12:32] <kosta7025575> xales: it still does not work what should I do now?
#2299 [12:32] <Xenon> Billy: depends on how soon they update
#2300 [12:32] <slowfi> what servers have updated yet?
#2301 [12:32] <mdiax3000> sigue los pasos que te da la pagina para un mejor redimiento
#2302 [12:32] <billy> ok thank you!!!
#2303 [12:32] <Abc> mira
#2304 [12:32] <Abc> ahora mismo tengo 70fps
#2305 [12:33] <xales> ??> kosta7025575 win/reinst
#2306 [12:33] <VoxelHead> kosta7025575: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2307 [12:33] <VoxelHead> kosta7025575: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2308 [12:33] <kosta7025575> ok
#2309 [12:34] <Abc> hola?
#2310 [12:34] <mdiax3000> sorry es que ando haciendo comida
#2311 [12:34] <Abc> mira como lo tengo
#2312 [12:34] <Abc> http://postimage.org/image/3k8v570u7/
#2313 [12:34] <mdiax3000> en 70 fbs esat bien
#2314 [12:34] <mdiax3000> esta bien
#2315 [12:34] <Abc> por eso, que no es problema de eso
#2316 [12:34] <Abc> pero a veces
#2317 [12:34] <Abc> antes me pasaba
#2318 [12:34] <Abc> y ahora me acaba de pasar
#2319 [12:35] <Abc> que a veces me iba muy muy lento durante unos segundos
#2320 [12:35] <kosta7025575> Ok Right now i am in my .minecraft folder do you want meto delte every folder in their except the saves folder?
#2321 [12:35] <mdiax3000> bueno vamos a tratar unas cosas
#2322 [12:35] <xales> kosta7025575: That is correct.
#2323 [12:36] <mdiax3000> para ver si podemos hacer que tu minecraft corra mejor
#2324 [12:36] <Abc> ah si... he leido que es del java
#2325 [12:36] <kosta7025575> ok even the bin forlder just dont delte the saves right?
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#2327 [12:36] <mdiax3000> como dice en la paigna
#2328 [12:36] <Abc> he leido en muchos sitios que tengo que cambiar una cosa del java
#2329 [12:36] <mdiax3000> pagina
#2330 [12:36] <mdiax3000> pporque de hecho trate muchas de las cosas y juegaba bien
#2331 [12:37] <mdiax3000> no tienes algun otro progama abierto vdd?
#2332 [12:37] <Abc> pero dicen que tengo que ir a panel de control, java y alli tocar una cosa
#2333 [12:37] <mdiax3000> verdad
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#2335 [12:37] <Abc> uy
#2336 [12:37] <Abc> pues si
#2337 [12:37] <Abc> bastantes
#2338 [12:37] <Abc> pero no es por nada de eso
#2339 [12:37] <mdiax3000> no pues eso usa ram y
#2340 [12:37] <mdiax3000> no le da mas a minecraft
#2341 [12:38] <Abc> eso digo
#2342 [12:38] <Abc> no le da mas a java, no a minecraft
#2343 [12:38] <mdiax3000> si
#2344 [12:38] <mdiax3000> usas un ordenador verdad
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#2346 [12:38] <Abc> como?
#2347 [12:38] <mdiax3000> una PC
#2348 [12:38] <dex> how to download minercaft 1.3.1?
#2349 [12:38] <Abc> claro
#2350 [12:38] <Abc> ...
#2351 [12:38] <xales> kosta7025575: That's correct, yes.
#2352 [12:38] <dex> url address please
#2353 [12:38] <xales> dex: What is your Minecraft username?
#2354 [12:38] <mdiax3000> no pues puede que uses laptop
#2355 [12:39] <kosta7025575> ok I did it let me test my minecraft out now
#2356 [12:39] <Abc> no se ni que es un laptop
#2357 [12:39] <Abc> un portatil no?
#2358 [12:39] <Abc> yo lo he llamado de toda la vida portatil
#2359 [12:39] <dex> :: xales :: I do not have an account
#2360 [12:39] <xales> dex: If you don't have an account, then you cannot play Minecraft.
#2361 [12:40] <mdiax3000> oh disculpame es que tenemos diferetes dialectos
#2362 [12:40] <dex> :: xales :: Ok.
#2363 [12:40] <kosta7025575> xales its still does not work when ever I go into my world or make one what it says is two thing building world and loading terraring when it should only say one thing
#2364 [12:41] <Abc> no... es que por aqui a veces dicen laptop tambien
#2365 [12:41] <xales> kosta7025575: Does the game otherwise work, despite that?
#2366 [12:41] <Abc> no se si es algo "nuevo" o diferente de un portatil normal
#2367 [12:41] <kosta7025575> yes
#2368 [12:41] <kosta7025575> yes
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#2370 [12:41] <xales> kosta7025575: Then it's not a problem. Ignore it.
#2371 [12:41] <kosta7025575> yes but its like their is something wrong with my minecraft
#2372 [12:41] <Abc> aqui llamamos a los de escritorio de sobremesa, y a los laptops portátiles
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#2374 [12:41] <kosta7025575> wait is their like anyway I can show you what happens?
#2375 [12:42] <mdiax3000> muy en en distancia de renerizado ponle fast
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#2377 [12:42] <xales> kosta7025575: It doesn't matter. Things change when the game updates. Just forget about it.
#2378 [12:42] <mdiax3000> y usa el advanced open GL
#2379 [12:42] <mdiax3000> activalo
#2380 [12:42] <Lazordude900> hello can anyone help with 1.3
#2381 [12:42] <Abc> me lo dices a mi?
#2382 [12:42] <Abc> no se lo que has dicho
#2383 [12:42] <mdiax3000> activalo el opengl
#2384 [12:42] <Lazordude900> my servers do not work
#2385 [12:42] <mdiax3000> si
#2386 [12:43] <mdiax3000> a ti ABC
#2387 [12:43] <Abc> open gl activado
#2388 [12:43] <Abc> que mas
#2389 [12:43] <Lazordude900> y u speak de spanish
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#2391 [12:43] <Charles> HI
#2392 [12:43] <mdiax3000> ponle en rapido done dice distacia de renderizado
#2393 [12:43] <Charles> Ive found a glitch in 1.3
#2394 [12:43] <Lazordude900> i need help
#2395 [12:43] <Lazordude900> my servers dont work
#2396 [12:43] <Charles> No shit
#2397 [12:43] <Lazordude900> they have internal server error
#2398 [12:43] <Charles> They updated to 1.3
#2399 [12:43] <Abc> normal, corta o minima?
#2400 [12:43] <Abc> espera, me cambio el idioma y ya esta
#2401 [12:44] <mdiax3000> ti que haber otro que no?
#2402 [12:44] <Charles> el taco me wnat
#2403 [12:44] <mdiax3000> esta normal corta minima y rapida
#2404 [12:44] <Lazordude900> guys speak english
#2405 [12:44] <Charles> El me want your tacos el y parid slushie
#2406 [12:44] <Lazordude900> please
#2407 [12:44] <Abc> ...
#2408 [12:44] <Charles> XD
#2409 [12:44] <Abc> he's talking to me
#2410 [12:44] <xales> :|
#2411 [12:44] <Charles> Oh shit
#2412 [12:44] <Lazordude900> CHARLES
#2413 [12:44] <xales> ?? smp/recentupdate
#2414 [12:44] <Lazordude900> u can
#2415 [12:44] <Charles> Lol bro i was just joking
#2416 [12:44] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#2417 [12:44] <Abc> a ver
#2418 [12:44] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#2419 [12:44] <Charles> Yea?
#2420 [12:44] <Charles> f
#2421 [12:44] <Charles> Bro
#2422 [12:45] <Abc> cual es el idioma pretederminado?
#2423 [12:45] <Charles> I have to wait from bukkit recommend build
#2424 [12:45] <Lazordude900> ok
#2425 [12:45] <mdiax3000> espra deja lo abro tambien
#2426 [12:45] <Lazordude900> so thats normal
#2427 [12:45] <Abc> ya
#2428 [12:45] <Abc> ya esta
#2429 [12:45] <Lazordude900> wow
#2430 [12:45] <Abc> english US he puesto
#2431 [12:45] <Charles> Yep
#2432 [12:45] <Charles> El taco?
#2433 [12:45] <Lazordude900> but on a server there are 10 people on iy
#2434 [12:45] <Abc> vale
#2435 [12:45] <Lazordude900> it
#2436 [12:45] <Abc> te referias a graficos
#2437 [12:45] <xales> Lazordude900: Then those people haven't updated
#2438 [12:45] <Abc> graphics: fast ?
#2439 [12:45] <Charles> El me taco and el me nacho parvabor and rapids
#2440 [12:45] <Lazordude900> oh wow
#2441 [12:45] <Lazordude900> ok
#2442 [12:45] <Lazordude900> thanks :D
#2443 [12:46] <Lazordude900> bye bye
#2444 [12:46] <Abc> hola?
#2445 [12:47] <Abc> ee
#2446 [12:47] <mdiax3000> pacncia
#2447 [12:47] <Abc> esta muy callado esto
#2448 [12:48] <mdiax3000> aqui etoy
#2449 [12:48] <Abc> digo que te referias a graficos
#2450 [12:48] <mdiax3000> ok
#2451 [12:48] <Abc> graphics: fast
#2452 [12:48] <mdiax3000> vete a video settings
#2453 [12:48] <Abc> si
#2454 [12:48] <Abc> que mas
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#2456 [12:49] <mdiax3000> graphics
#2457 [12:49] <mdiax3000> fast
#2458 [12:49] <Abc> ya esta puesto
#2459 [12:49] <mdiax3000> si a los graficos
#2460 [12:49] <Abc> que mas
#2461 [12:49] <mdiax3000> en el openGL
#2462 [12:49] <mdiax3000> en el openGL
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#2464 [12:49] <Abc> openGL activado
#2465 [12:49] <mdiax3000> lo tienes que activar
#2466 [12:50] <Abc> pero por que graphics fast?
#2467 [12:50] <Abc> si yo los quiero de la otra manera
#2468 [12:50] <mdiax3000> vamos a tratar esto por el moemnto
#2469 [12:50] <mdiax3000> por el momento
#2470 [12:50] <mdiax3000> nomas para ver unas cuantas cosa
#2471 [12:51] <mdiax3000> cosas
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#2474 [12:51] <Abc> estoy esperando
#2475 [12:52] <mdiax3000> ok ya hiciste eso?
#2476 [12:53] <Abc> si, hace mucho
#2477 [12:53] <mdiax3000> entonces en el otro lado le vas a poner tiny
#2478 [12:53] <Abc> hecho
#2479 [12:55] <mdiax3000> ahorita vengo
#2480 [12:55] <Abc> vale
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#2482 [12:58] <helmuteke> why can't i move a rail with a piston ?? see lots of movie's about it but doesn't work
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#2484 [12:59] <lutzee> I've done that before
#2485 [12:59] <lutzee> should work fine
#2486 [12:59] <meh> So, someone mind giving me a hand ?
#2487 [12:59] <helmuteke> not to me
#2488 [12:59] <lutzee> what's the problem meh?
#2489 [13:00] <meh> Okay, so I've tried downloading and setting up my own server about 23986932 times now
#2490 [13:00] <meh> Just can't do it
#2491 [13:00] <xales> meh: Where do you run into issues?
#2492 [13:00] <lutzee> ?? smp/serversetup
#2493 [13:00] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: Lots of information here:
#2494 [13:00] <VoxelHead> smp/serversetup: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#2495 [13:01] <meh> Basically, after I hit the button " trying to set up your own server? heres the software you need _________ "
#2496 [13:01] <mdiax3000> tienes tu computador trabajando en mejor redimito?
#2497 [13:01] <Abc> pero por que me dices eso?
#2498 [13:01] <Abc> yo lo tengo todo normal
#2499 [13:01] <helmuteke> someone who wanne try with his version
#2500 [13:02] <helmuteke> only 3 rail , piston and try move them
#2501 [13:02] <mdiax3000> ay una opcion en windows que puedes poner para que trabaje en mejor rednimiento
#2502 [13:02] <mdiax3000> rendimiento
#2503 [13:02] <Abc> yo tengo tuneup utilies
#2504 [13:02] <mdiax3000> ok
#2505 [13:02] <Abc> no tengo nada de rendimiento
#2506 [13:03] <Abc> o sea, lo tengo para que no se pare ni nada
#2507 [13:03] <Abc> que no se apaguen los discos cuando no se usa y eso
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#2509 [13:04] <meh> Okay, I dc'ed
#2510 [13:04] <meh> I still need help
#2511 [13:04] <mdiax3000> ok
#2512 [13:04] <lutzee> you have read this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server ?
#2513 [13:05] <meh> yeah
#2514 [13:05] <meh> I went through it
#2515 [13:05] <meh> Didn't do much for me
#2516 [13:05] <xales> meh: Why do you want to run a server? Do you just want to play with your friends, or do you have a specific purpose in mind?
#2517 [13:05] <mdiax3000> en la pagina que te [ase ahi te dan mucha ayuda para un mejor rendimiento y para que no tenga lag
#2518 [13:05] <meh> I have 3 people in my house, and we all want to play together
#2519 [13:06] <meh> Thats why I wish to start a server
#2520 [13:07] <xales> meh: Ah. The new version of Minecraft has a feature that allows very easy LAN play. They should just need to click "Multiplayer" and your game should appear while you are playing single-player.
#2521 [13:07] <Abc> pero lo que me pasaba era que
#2522 [13:07] <meh> Really ?
#2523 [13:07] <meh> I'll try that.
#2524 [13:07] <Abc> me iba bien, y de repente se pone muy lento
#2525 [13:07] <Abc> y no es de nada de rendimiento porque me va bien todo el rato
#2526 [13:07] <Abc> y a veces se para y va lento
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#2528 [13:08] <lutzee> afternoon marc o/
#2529 [13:09] <Marc_IRL> hey
#2530 [13:09] <Marc_IRL> Soooo... did 1.3.1 include the demo mode update?
#2531 [13:09] <mdiax3000> si yo se si lo dijistepero mepreguntabas por el lag que no?
#2532 [13:09] <Helloman892> Yes, Marc.
#2533 [13:09] <Marc_IRL> It's not like I can reach over and poke a dev, lol
#2534 [13:09] <Abc> pero no es lag de que vaya lento siempre
#2535 [13:09] <xales> Marc_IRL: It did indeed, but I believe the launcher changed and the new one is needed.
#2536 [13:09] <Abc> por lo tanto no es por el rendimiento
#2537 [13:09] <Marc_IRL> I'm assuming that it only works if it notices that you haven't yet downloaded the game?
#2538 [13:10] <Helloman892> No.
#2539 [13:10] <Abc> bueno... si lo pongo en Far si que me va lento, pero es por el ordenador
#2540 [13:10] <xales> Marc_IRL: If one logs in with a valid, but not premium account, it will have a "Play Demo" button instead of "Play" or whatever it normally says
#2541 [13:10] <Helloman892> It's for if you login without a premium account.
#2542 [13:10] <Abc> por mucho que haga, no conseguiré mucho
#2543 [13:10] <Marc_IRL> oooh
#2544 [13:10] <Marc_IRL> duh, that'd do it
#2545 [13:10] <mdiax3000> si
#2546 [13:10] <Marc_IRL> brb, testing, then having to update a bunch of stuff :p
#2547 [13:10] <Helloman892> Anyways, back to AFKing.
#2548 [13:10] <xales> Have fun :p
#2549 [13:10] <mdiax3000> y todo esto es para que se acomode a base tu ordenador que tienes
#2550 [13:10] <Marc_IRL> (wish I could play Minecraft instead of working today, hahaha)
#2551 [13:10] <meh> so the lan thing didnt work
#2552 [13:11] <meh> It has been searching for lan for a while now
#2553 [13:11] <lutzee> Marc you have plenty of time for that i'm sure :p
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#2555 [13:11] <Abc> pero
#2556 [13:11] <Abc> quiero comprarme uno potente
#2557 [13:11] <Abc> que no tenga que pensar en eso, sabes?
#2558 [13:11] <lutzee> meh, you might want to look through youtube for ea guide to setting up a server instead, it might play more to how you learn
#2559 [13:12] <Abc> lo que pasa es que no encuentro ningun sitio que lo pueda devolver y me den el dinero si no me va bien
#2560 [13:12] <mdiax3000> pues tambien
#2561 [13:12] <meh> How do I whisper
#2562 [13:12] <Abc> lo que yo quiero es uno que ponga todo en ultra
#2563 [13:12] <Marc_IRL> I got a "user not premium" error
#2564 [13:12] <Abc> y que me vaya a más de 60 fps
#2565 [13:12] <Abc> a 100 o 200
#2566 [13:12] <Abc> sea el minecraft o sea el crysis 2
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#2568 [13:13] <mdiax3000> epues el juego asi como lo tienes lo puedes poner en max fps
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#2570 [13:13] <batikas90> hello
#2571 [13:13] <meh> I need youtube to figure out how to hit the multiplayer button and wait for a lan connection ?
#2572 [13:13] <batikas90> any dev in here?
#2573 [13:13] <lutzee> meh, no for setting up a standard server
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#2575 [13:14] <lutzee> batikas90, what is the problem?
#2576 [13:14] <lutzee> we are the community not mojang
#2577 [13:14] <meh> Oh, Xales told me to just use the in game lan feature.
#2578 [13:14] <meh> And that's not working.
#2579 [13:14] <batikas90> i start mc, i get to play in singli playier
#2580 [13:14] <xales> Marc_IRL: Did you redownload the launcher?
#2581 [13:14] <batikas90> but when i try login to a server it crashes
#2582 [13:15] <Marc_IRL> no
#2583 [13:15] <focalmgn> Is there way to revert to 1.2.5?
#2584 [13:15] <batikas90> and leaves a error file
#2585 [13:15] <xales> meh: Are you on the same network? If one computer is on wifi, and one is plugged in or something, then that would be the issue.
#2586 [13:15] <Abc> bueno...
#2587 [13:15] <mdiax3000> si
#2588 [13:15] <xales> focalmgn: Not unless you have a backup.
#2589 [13:15] <xales> batikas90: Is the server updated?
#2590 [13:15] <meh> No, were all on wireless.
#2591 [13:15] <meh> Same wireless
#2592 [13:15] <Marc_IRL> So I have to delete Minecraft.exe and re-download it for demo mode to show?
#2593 [13:15] <mdiax3000> Abc: y como te dije yo no tengo el minecraft
#2594 [13:15] <xales> Marc_IRL: Yeah
#2595 [13:15] <Marc_IRL> balls
#2596 [13:15] <mdiax3000> tan solo lo tengo para lel xbox 360
#2597 [13:15] <focalmgn> I was afraid of that. 1.3 is completely broken for me.
#2598 [13:16] <ShaRose> it's a launcher update, so
#2599 [13:16] <xales> meh: And one of the computers has single-player open, on Minecraft 1.3.1?
#2600 [13:16] <Marc_IRL> I was hoping it was going to be super easy, like a one step thing, so people couldn't screw it up :p
#2601 [13:16] <Abc> bueno pues gracias por ayudarme
#2602 [13:16] <meh> Xales: Let me make sure they have the 1.3.1
#2603 [13:16] <ShaRose> if they are looking for a demo wouldn't they download the new launcher for the first time anyways Marc_IRL
#2604 [13:16] <batikas90> i have to check , a min plz
#2605 [13:16] <mdiax3000> de nada ahi cundo se te ofresa
#2606 [13:16] <xales> Marc_IRL: Well, if they got it in the first place, it shouldn't be too hard for them to figure out...but then again... ._.
#2607 [13:16] <mdiax3000> ofrezca
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#2609 [13:16] <mdiax3000> no quieres jugar minecrat?
#2610 [13:16] <Marc_IRL> I always assume people will screw things up
#2611 [13:17] <gabriel> helllo
#2612 [13:17] <meh> Xales: We all have 1.3.1
#2613 [13:17] <Abc> que?
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#2615 [13:17] <gabriel> i have a problem
#2616 [13:17] <xales> meh: And one of you is currently in single-player?
#2617 [13:17] <meh> Correct
#2618 [13:17] <xales> gabriel: Why else would you be here?
#2619 [13:17] <gabriel> I can not get into my server because of the new minecraft actualization
#2620 [13:17] <gabriel> 1.3.1
#2621 [13:17] <xales> gabriel: Update your server.
#2622 [13:17] <mdiax3000> no tienes un servideor para jugar minecraft?
#2623 [13:18] <mdiax3000> servidor
#2624 [13:18] <meh> Xales: Lmao what you said to Gabriel.
#2625 [13:18] <Abc> yo?
#2626 [13:18] <Abc> no entiendo
#2627 [13:18] <Abc> no juego mucho
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#2629 [13:18] <mdiax3000> si tu
#2630 [13:18] <Marc_IRL> Aha, there's demo mode
#2631 [13:18] <mdiax3000> para jugar en multijugado
#2632 [13:18] <gabriel> how to do it
#2633 [13:18] <batikas90> it is not >< so that is why it got chrashed?
#2634 [13:18] <xales> gabriel: Download the new jar/exe and replace the old one.
#2635 [13:18] <mdiax3000> is the demo mode working now?
#2636 [13:18] <xales> batikas90: Correct.
#2637 [13:18] <batikas90> ok thank you
#2638 [13:18] <burtnfrieser> The update wont finish on my computer how do i make it so it loads all the way?
#2639 [13:19] <xales> mdiax3000: Yes, redownload Minecraft from http://minecraft.net/download
#2640 [13:19] <xales> burtnfrieser: You are using AVG, correct?
#2641 [13:19] <xales> Disable the "LinkScanner Module" or "SurfSafe Shield"
#2642 [13:19] <burtnfrieser> yes and before i started i turned off resident shield like usual
#2643 [13:19] <gabriel> how to do it
#2644 [13:20] <xales> gabriel: Download the new jar/exe and replace the old one.
#2645 [13:20] <Abc> sigo sin entender lo que has dicho
#2646 [13:20] <meh> Xales when you get a sec, let me know
#2647 [13:20] <gabriel> how to do it xales
#2648 [13:20] <mdiax3000> Abc: en minecraft ay multijugador osea multiplayer
#2649 [13:20] <Abc> si
#2650 [13:21] <xales> gabriel: I've told you twice, I'm not going to repeat it again.
#2651 [13:21] <xales> meh: You can PM me if you want.
#2652 [13:21] <meh> How
#2653 [13:21] <focalmgn> I can't edit my inventory at all with the update to 1.3.1. I already tried redownloading it.
#2654 [13:21] <xales> meh: Type /msg xales (whatever) and it will open a window
#2655 [13:21] <gabriel> sorry
#2656 [13:21] <mdiax3000> yay demo
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#2658 [13:21] <xales> focalmgn: If you mean with a mod/third party tool, you will have to wait for it to update to support 1.3.1
#2659 [13:22] <focalmgn> xales: no mods
#2660 [13:22] <Abc> ... estoy igual
#2661 [13:22] <xales> focalmgn: How else would you "edit your inventory" then?
#2662 [13:23] <focalmgn> xales: move blocks around or pin them to the bar at the bottom...
#2663 [13:23] <mdiax3000> no sabis que minecraft tie multijugdor
#2664 [13:23] <Abc> si si lo se
#2665 [13:23] <mdiax3000> para jugar con otraspersonas?
#2666 [13:23] <Abc> si
#2667 [13:23] <Abc> aunque servidores no muchos
#2668 [13:23] <mdiax3000> pues eso te deci que vamos a juagr
#2669 [13:23] <mdiax3000> jugar
#2670 [13:24] <mdiax3000> bueno si quieres
#2671 [13:24] <Abc> no has dicho que tienes xbox?
#2672 [13:24] <mdiax3000> tambien
#2673 [13:24] <Abc> ah, yo pensaba que solo tenias xbox
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#2675 [13:24] <mdiax3000> lo tienes para el xbox?
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#2677 [13:24] <Abc> no :(
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#2679 [13:24] <mdiax3000> pero tienes xbxox
#2680 [13:24] <mdiax3000> xbox
#2681 [13:25] <Abc> no :(
#2682 [13:25] <Abc> xD
#2683 [13:25] <mdiax3000> ps3?
#2684 [13:25] <Abc> tengo ps3
#2685 [13:25] <mdiax3000> no pues haces bien
#2686 [13:25] <fountaindaledude> We are having problems connecting....internet is fine...can you help?
#2687 [13:25] <yesac> ummmm the new update fails to launch....yes i've tried to force the update like 20 times
#2688 [13:25] <mdiax3000> pero pues ni modo
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#2690 [13:25] <yesac> how do i get help
#2691 [13:25] <rafael> I can answer in Portuguese
#2692 [13:25] <Abc> que pasa?
#2693 [13:25] <xales> yesac: What do you mean "fails to launch"?
#2694 [13:25] <mdiax3000> tons vamos a jugar aqui minecraft
#2695 [13:26] <rafael> i have a problem
#2696 [13:26] <fountaindaledude> it's failing to connect
#2697 [13:26] <Abc> bueno
#2698 [13:26] <yesac> that's the msg i get...update failed to launch
#2699 [13:26] <mdiax3000> como se llama tu mundo para buscarlo
#2700 [13:26] <xales> ??> yesac forceupdate
#2701 [13:26] <VoxelHead> yesac: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2702 [13:26] <VoxelHead> yesac: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2703 [13:26] <mdiax3000> o como se juega aqui?
#2704 [13:26] <yesac> i
#2705 [13:26] <xales> fountaindaledude: What is failing to connect to what?
#2706 [13:26] <rafael> i have a problem
#2707 [13:26] <Abc> ajaj no sabes?
#2708 [13:27] <yesac> i've already tried to force the update 20 times
#2709 [13:27] <prtik> Hello, I have got uploaded skin but I removed it from my PC, can someone please send me to my email ??
#2710 [13:27] <xales> rafael: With?
#2711 [13:27] <mdiax3000> no
#2712 [13:27] <xales> prtik: No.
#2713 [13:27] <Abc> yo tampoco
#2714 [13:27] <rafael> I can answer in Portuguese
#2715 [13:27] <prtik> thx :D
#2716 [13:27] <fountaindaledude> I'm trying to log in to multi player and it won't connect to the server
#2717 [13:27] <xales> fountaindaledude: Is the server updated?
#2718 [13:27] <mdiax3000> hmm
#2719 [13:28] <fountaindaledude> How do I do that.....this is a mom and young son.....we need lots of help:)
#2720 [13:28] <yesac> so, we've determined force update doesn't work, how do i contact mojang for some better one on one help????
#2721 [13:28] <yesac> doing it like this is chaos
#2722 [13:28] <rafael> I can not get into my server
#2723 [13:28] <xales> rafael: You need to update your server, then.
#2724 [13:28] <xales> fountaindaledude: Are you running the server?
#2725 [13:28] <mdiax3000> pues averigua para jugar o que?
#2726 [13:29] <xales> yesac: Mojang does not directly offer anything but self-serve support. Please be patient.
#2727 [13:29] <rafael> how do I update this
#2728 [13:29] <Abc> ya he descargado lo de la pagina de minecraft que dice server pero no hace nada
#2729 [13:29] <xales> rafael: Download the new jar/exe and replace the old one.
#2730 [13:29] <yesac> well they took my MONEY
#2731 [13:29] <yesac> i should get some help
#2732 [13:29] <mdiax3000> no pues yo no se como tampoco jajaja'
#2733 [13:29] <rafael> thanks
#2734 [13:29] <fountaindaledude> no, it's skyblock server
#2735 [13:29] <xales> yesac: There was no promise of any sort of support when you purchased the game.
#2736 [13:29] <yesac> this is not a free product, i need some customer service
#2737 [13:30] <Abc> voy a ver...
#2738 [13:30] <xales> If you're just going to complain, you will be removed so that civilized people can be helped.
#2739 [13:30] <yesac> or a refund.....
#2740 [13:30] <yesac> i'm asking for help, not getting it. force update doesn't solve the problem
#2741 [13:30] <xales> yesac: If you haven't noticed, it's a bit busy here.
#2742 [13:31] <xales> ??> yesac win/reinst
#2743 [13:31] <VoxelHead> yesac: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2744 [13:31] <VoxelHead> yesac: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2745 [13:31] <rafael> can you give me the link of this new jar / exe
#2746 [13:31] <yesac> exactly why i'm asking about a differnt way to reccieve some support
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#2748 [13:31] <focalmgn> Can anyone help? I have a stock minecraft build with the offical launcher. I am playing a map in creative mode. I cannot move blocks in and out of inventory to use them as the bottom bar is greyed out. Redownloading everything didn't work.
#2749 [13:31] <xales> rafael: http://minecraft.net/download
#2750 [13:32] <xales> focalmgn: If you start a new world, also in creative mode, do you have the same issue?
#2751 [13:32] <yesac> voxel i really appreciate you trying to help but i'm not tech savvy, none of that makes sense
#2752 [13:32] <fountaindaledude> xales, it's a skyblock server, not our own
#2753 [13:33] <xales> yesac: There is no other way to get support, short of account issues. VoxelHead is a bot, not a person. The instructions it gave you are not complicated, please make an attempt at following them rather than using it as another excuse to complain.
#2754 [13:33] <yesac> and also, it doesn't seem fair that i have to unistall everything and lose everything that i've done...my world
#2755 [13:33] <xales> fountaindaledude: You'll have to wait for the server administrator to update the server, before you'll be able to play on it again.
#2756 [13:33] <xales> yesac: You don't have to lose your world. This would be why the "do not delete the 'saves' directory" part of the instructions is there.
#2757 [13:33] <fountaindaledude> ok, thanks!
#2758 [13:33] <focalmgn> xales: Yes.
#2759 [13:33] <mdiax3000> Abc: que paso?
#2760 [13:34] <Abc> no lo entiendo
#2761 [13:34] <Abc> es muy raro
#2762 [13:34] <yesac> well it would be great to get it in an email so i can look at it at my own pace...i'm not just complaining
#2763 [13:34] <yesac> maybe you can stop saying that, thx
#2764 [13:34] <xales> ??> yesac attitude
#2765 [13:34] <VoxelHead> yesac: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#2766 [13:34] <VoxelHead> yesac: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#2767 [13:34] <yesac> am i violating some rule by what i'm saying?
#2768 [13:35] <Abc> buah...
#2769 [13:35] <Abc> pero es que es abrir un servidor
#2770 [13:35] <Abc> y se tiene que hacer lo mismo que con todos los juegos
#2771 [13:35] <yesac> how have i been disrespectful? like i said totally appreciate the offer to help. i just can't do it like this
#2772 [13:35] <Abc> o sea archivos de texto y esas cosas
#2773 [13:35] <Abc> y tener las carpetas
#2774 [13:35] <xales> yesac: Well, you'll have to make some attempt.
#2775 [13:35] <yesac> again...not complaining. asking for a way that WORKS for mme
#2776 [13:35] <yesac> thats all
#2777 [13:36] <xales> Again, please try following VoxelHead's instructions. They aren't complicated, they aren't long. It's about 5 sentences.
#2778 [13:36] <yesac> iit's already gone
#2779 [13:36] <xales> Then scroll up.
#2780 [13:36] <focalmgn> xales: Found the problem.
#2781 [13:36] <xales> focalmgn: What was it?
#2782 [13:36] <yesac> i don't have akey that says windowa
#2783 [13:36] <yesac> windows*
#2784 [13:37] <xales> ??> yesac win/key/image
#2785 [13:37] <VoxelHead> yesac: (win/key/image) WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#2786 [13:37] <mdiax3000> pues dejatoy tratanlleva 76%ervidor o algo as
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#2788 [13:37] <yesac> sigh...how do i get a refund?
#2789 [13:38] <focalmgn> xales: new inventory screen threw me off. While the bottom bar is greyed out. The new screen has a bar of its own.
#2790 [13:38] <focalmgn> xales: Sorry for the trouble.
#2791 [13:38] <xales> yesac: You don't.
#2792 [13:38] <xales> focalmgn: It's okay, no worries.
#2793 [13:38] <xales> yesac: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#2794 [13:38] <meh> ??> xales attitute
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#2796 [13:39] <xales> :p
#2797 [13:39] <meh> ??> xales attitude
#2798 [13:39] <VoxelHead> xales: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#2799 [13:39] <VoxelHead> xales: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#2800 [13:39] <meh> :D
#2801 [13:39] <NinjaKirby> Xales got told, pwned XD
#2802 [13:40] <meh> ^
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#2804 [13:40] <NinjaKirby> Albeit a nonsensical way
#2805 [13:40] <xales> ??+ xdxxdd|http://i.imgur.com/Aj5SB.png
#2806 [13:40] <xales> ??> NinjaKirby xdxxdd
#2807 [13:40] <VoxelHead> NinjaKirby: (xdxxdd) http://i.imgur.com/Aj5SB.png
#2808 [13:40] <NinjaKirby> lol, wut is dat
#2809 [13:40] <Sephiroth87> boreeas? hast du schon was rausbekommen wegen meines problemes?
#2810 [13:40] <Boreeas> What
#2811 [13:40] <NinjaKirby> lol xales
#2812 [13:41] <Jokeless> Can you help me? I think I have a good computer, but Minecraft runs very slow on it. My parameters are: CPU: 4x Intel Core i5 2450M GPU: AMD Radeon HD 6650M and 8GB RAM Can you help me?
#2813 [13:41] <Boreeas> Sephiroth87: Wie gesagt, ich konnte dir da nicht weiterhelfen, aber vielleicht kann jeman anderes hier
#2814 [13:41] <yesac> after i delete everything except saves directory...just says try again....try WHAT again? just running minecrat? installing minecrat? updating minecraft???
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#2816 [13:42] <xales> yesac: Running Minecraft.
#2817 [13:42] <xales> Jokeless: One second
#2818 [13:42] <xales> Boreeas: What's the factoid for forcing use of the non-Intel GPU?
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#2820 [13:42] <Sephiroth87> mhm ok...kann wer noch deutsch hier....ich moechte gern meine namen im mehrspieler aender (offline) damit man im LAN spielen kann
#2821 [13:43] <billy> my multiplayer keeps saying its outdated what do i do?
#2822 [13:43] <meh> You update :P
#2823 [13:43] <billy> i did update it
#2824 [13:43] <Abc> sigues ahi?
#2825 [13:43] <yesac> this is the exact msg i get: FAILED TO LAUNCH FATAL ERROR OCCURED (4): CONNECTION RESET Retrieving:minecraft.jar 26%
#2826 [13:43] <DopeGhoti> Sie können ihren Minecraft Kontonamen nicht ändern.
#2827 [13:43] <xales> yesac: Do you have AVG installed?
#2828 [13:43] <billy> once i updated it, it said outdated
#2829 [13:43] <mdiax3000> si
#2830 [13:44] <yesac> yes xales
#2831 [13:44] <billy> it worked fine before
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#2833 [13:44] <mdiax3000> que paso?
#2834 [13:44] <mdiax3000> Abc: ?
#2835 [13:44] <Sephiroth87> nicht den konto namen sondern den namen der angezeigt wird...also statt "Player" meinen Login namen
#2836 [13:44] <xales> yesac: That would be the problem. Disable the "LinkScanner Module" or the "SurfSafe Shield," whichever it has
#2837 [13:44] <Abc> nada
#2838 [13:44] <Abc> que no se puede
#2839 [13:44] <yesac> uhhhh
#2840 [13:44] <Abc> es muy dificil
#2841 [13:44] <yesac> how
#2842 [13:44] <Boreeas> xales: Do you mean gpu/discreet or?
#2843 [13:44] <mdiax3000> hmmm
#2844 [13:44] <Sephiroth87> bis 1.2.5 konnte man es noch ändern aba jet geht es nocht mehr
#2845 [13:44] <Abc> no es para jugar los 2
#2846 [13:44] <xales> yesac: Double-click the AVG icon in the bottom right hand corner, in the tray.
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#2848 [13:44] <xales> Boreeas: I think so...
#2849 [13:44] <Abc> no es algo que diga venga vamos a jugar y se abre solo
#2850 [13:44] <DopeGhoti> Sephiroth87: Nein.
#2851 [13:45] <Abc> es montar un servidor
#2852 [13:45] <billy> so can someone help me?
#2853 [13:45] <xales> Boreeas: Jokeless has an issue that appears to be Minecraft defaulting to the integrated GPU.
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#2855 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> Boreeas: 'discrete', not 'discreet'
#2856 [13:45] <Abc> con sus configuraciones de ip y de todo
#2857 [13:45] <xales> billy: Are you trying to play on a server you run, or a server someone else runs?
#2858 [13:45] <blinky> hi*
#2859 [13:45] <Nic> How exactly would you be able to update an outdated Minecraft server?
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#2861 [13:45] <xales> Nic: Is it your server?
#2862 [13:45] <DopeGhoti> Nic: download the new .jar. done and done
#2863 [13:45] <Nic> Yes
#2864 [13:45] <Abc> lo se porque yo abri un servidor de un juego y era dificil
#2865 [13:45] <yesac> why do i need to do that? i've akways used avg while running minecraft? if i disable anti virus that seems to contradict it??
#2866 [13:45] <billy> i am trying to get on a server the hunger games multiplayer server
#2867 [13:45] <billy> but it says outdated
#2868 [13:45] <Nic> Where can I download this
#2869 [13:45] <billy> but i just updated it
#2870 [13:46] <xales> billy: You have to wait for the server to update.
#2871 [13:46] <mdiax3000> s tienes que poner una configusarioin de ip y asi si me l das o yo te doy la mia podemos entrar directamente
#2872 [13:46] <xales> Nic: http://minecraft.net/download
#2873 [13:46] <billy> its been like 2 hours
#2874 [13:46] <xales> yesac: It is a known issue with AVG.
#2875 [13:46] <Nic> Thank you
#2876 [13:46] <Abc> no es como tu crees
#2877 [13:46] <xales> yesac: If you'd prefer not to do it, that's fine. You can just not have Minecraft work.
#2878 [13:46] <Boreeas> xales, Jokeless: That sounds like gpu/dicrete alright, the solution is usually updating video drivers or bios firmware
#2879 [13:46] <Boreeas> DopeGhoti: Thanks
#2880 [13:46] <yesac> It worked FINE before 1.3 update
#2881 [13:46] <blinky> Do you see when i write sth ?
#2882 [13:46] <Jokeless> xales: Somewho tell me that my GPU is not compatible with Minecraft
#2883 [13:46] <mdiax3000> ya lo tenbia
#2884 [13:47] <mdiax3000> el numero de ip
#2885 [13:47] <blink> :|
#2886 [13:47] <billy> so what i could have to wait like 24 hours for it to update servers
#2887 [13:47] <mdiax3000> pero se desaparecio
#2888 [13:47] <Nic> Will I be able to keep my world?
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#2890 [13:47] <blink> what a copy-cat...
#2891 [13:47] <xales> billy: You have to wait until the people running the server, update it.
#2892 [13:47] <xales> Nic: Yes.
#2893 [13:47] <yesac> seems wrong to disable antivirus....won't that allow me to get a virus? do i have re activate it????
#2894 [13:47] <meh> You want to know what's not compatible with Minecraft? Yesac, that's what.
#2895 [13:47] <billy> oh alright i hope they do that soon
#2896 [13:47] <Fenkys> Hello, I need you help to downgrade minecraft to 1.2.5
#2897 [13:47] <Sephiroth87> gib es wirklich keine möglich keit um den namen zu ändern...warum wurde das geändert?
#2898 [13:47] <billy> THANK YOU!
#2899 [13:47] <xales> yesac: You are only disabling one component of it, one which happens to do absolutely nothing except break things like Minecraft.
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#2901 [13:47] <blinky> Are you able to read what I write?
#2902 [13:48] <xales> blinky: Yes.
#2903 [13:48] <Marc_IRL> Disabling an antivirus doesn't make you automatically get viruses :p
#2904 [13:48] <DopeGhoti> Fenkys: No can do.
#2905 [13:48] <blinky> ok thx
#2906 [13:48] <Boreeas> blinky: Indeed
#2907 [13:48] <mdiax3000> Abc: ?
#2908 [13:48] <Abc> nosotros no lo podemos crear
#2909 [13:48] <Marc_IRL> Just don't go surfing for porn while it's disabled
#2910 [13:48] <Abc> tiene que ser uno ya creado
#2911 [13:48] <mdiax3000> si se puede
#2912 [13:48] <Abc> pero no hay
#2913 [13:48] <Jokeless> xales: thank you i try it, but i don¨t know, if it works my friend has same laptop and he has same problems
#2914 [13:48] <Abc> tipo xbox
#2915 [13:48] <Abc> no existen
#2916 [13:48] <yesac> i'm a girl and i'm married. i don't need porn thank you very much
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#2918 [13:48] <Abc> vale, pues si si podemos, haz uno
#2919 [13:48] <blinky> i got a question, how can i activate hardcore on my local server in the server.properties ?
#2920 [13:48] <Fenkys> I'm sure it's possible, with version 1.3.1 I cannot connect to servers
#2921 [13:48] <mdiax3000> no se como es el problema
#2922 [13:48] <mdiax3000> no se como es el problema
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#2924 [13:49] <blinky> pls ?
#2925 [13:49] <yesac> so, do i need to inable and disable that component of avg everytime i or my kid plays monecraft?
#2926 [13:49] <Abc> pues es lo que digo
#2927 [13:49] <Fenkys> A windows version is disponible anywhere on Internet. We certainly can find a Linux version too
#2928 [13:49] <Abc> que no podemos!!
#2929 [13:49] <xales> yesac: Just disable it and leave it disabled.
#2930 [13:49] <xales> Fenkys: The servers you can't connect to haven't been updated yet. Find one that has, and it will work fine.
#2931 [13:50] <mdiax3000> haber vete a multijugador
#2932 [13:50] <blinky> How can i enable hardcore mode on my local server in the server.properties pls ?
#2933 [13:50] <Abc> vale ya estoy
#2934 [13:50] <mdiax3000> Abc: y en conexion directoa le pones
#2935 [13:50] <Fenkys> I play on tthis server. not on another server.
#2936 [13:50] <mdiax3000> 192.168.18:50995
#2937 [13:51] <Boreeas> How would hardcore mode work? One person dies, server gets deleted?
#2938 [13:51] <Fenkys> Minecraft does not ask me to upgrade to 1.3.1 version
#2939 [13:51] <mdiax3000> escribe eso
#2940 [13:51] <blink> person dies and they get banned
#2941 [13:51] <blinky> The person who dies is banned
#2942 [13:51] <yesac> double click AVG icon and there isn't anything that says LINKSCANNER MODULE or SURFSAFE SHIELD
#2943 [13:51] <blink> >:|
#2944 [13:51] <blink> blinky stop copying me
#2945 [13:51] <blinky> :(
#2946 [13:51] <blink> lol
#2947 [13:51] <Abc> no me funciona, a ti?
#2948 [13:51] <Boreeas> blinky: Please change your nick
#2949 [13:52] <xales> blinky: "hardcore=true" in server.properties
#2950 [13:52] <Fenkys> No solution
#2951 [13:52] <blink> eh, it doesn't matter that much
#2952 [13:52] <Fenkys> ?
#2953 [13:52] <mdiax3000> ok en lugar de el 5 al final ponle 7
#2954 [13:52] <Fenkys> Nobody has a version 1.2.5 on its computer
#2955 [13:52] <Abc> no se puede
#2956 [13:52] <Fenkys> Nobody has a version 1.2.5 on its computer ?
#2957 [13:52] <Abc> pero esa es tu ip?
#2958 [13:52] <xales> Fenkys: The servers you want to play on must be updated.
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#2960 [13:52] <blink> now look what you did, you made him leave :\
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#2962 [13:53] <blink> oh
#2963 [13:53] <xales> yesac: http://softwaretracker.blogspot.com/2010/10/disable-useless-linkscanner-in-avg.html
#2964 [13:53] <mdiax3000> es una partida local
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#2966 [13:53] <yesac> There IS LinkScanner which is active but not LinkScanner MODULE
#2967 [13:53] <Fenkys> But it is not before last week, and I want to play before this date. I have a party in progress now
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#2970 [13:53] <xales> yesac: Okay, so disable it...
#2971 [13:53] <Helloman892> Fenkys: I have 1.2.5
#2972 [13:53] * xales kicked xales_ from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ales_ :Go away.)
#2973 [13:54] <Helloman892> Lol, xales.
#2974 [13:54] <Kealper> orly.
#2975 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> ??> Helloman892 distribution
#2976 [13:54] <VoxelHead> Helloman892: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#2977 [13:54] <Abc> vale
#2978 [13:54] <VoxelHead> Helloman892: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#2979 [13:54] <Abc> estas?
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#2981 [13:54] <Helloman892> what?
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#2983 [13:54] <mib_on7mnh> rsg
#2984 [13:54] <Helloman892> I never said I was going to give it to him T_T
#2985 [13:54] <xales> Fenkys: Again, the server you want to play on must be updated.
#2986 [13:54] <DopeGhoti> And now you never will. (:
#2987 [13:54] <yesac> when i click on LINKSCANNER there are 2 checked boxes one says enable search shield and the other enable surf shield
#2988 [13:55] <Helloman892> DopeGhoti: I know the law T_T
#2989 [13:55] <yesac> which one do i uncheck
#2990 [13:55] <mdiax3000> dejame trato unascosas
#2991 [13:55] <xales> yesac: Both of them.
#2992 [13:55] <Abc> espera
#2993 [13:55] <Abc> creo que ya lo tengo
#2994 [13:55] <Abc> como puedo hablar contigo
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#2996 [13:55] <Abc> que no sea por aqui
#2997 [13:55] <Empyr90> Hi
#2998 [13:55] <Abc> ya lo tengo abierto
#2999 [13:55] <Abc> creo
#3000 [13:55] <DopeGhoti> Yo no comprendo nonenglishio
#3001 [13:55] <Helloman892> Fenkys: I assume you want 1.2.5
#3002 [13:55] <Fenkys> Yes I understand. But it can be updated before next week. And I want to play now
#3003 [13:55] <Fenkys> Helloman892: yes
#3004 [13:56] <xales> Fenkys: If you want to play now, then you need the person that runs the server to update it.
#3005 [13:56] <Helloman892> And you have 1.3.1?
#3006 [13:56] <Abc> eeeoo
#3007 [13:56] <Abc> eeeoo
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#3009 [13:56] <Abc> estas?
#3010 [13:56] <Helloman892> Got it.
#3011 [13:56] <Empyr90> Is that possible to enable hardcore mode on my local server with server.properties pls ?
#3012 [13:56] <blink> lol you didn't really need to change your name bro, I'm barely here anyways
#3013 [13:56] <mdiax3000> ya stasen mi mundo?>
#3014 [13:56] <mdiax3000> aprietale a la teclat
#3015 [13:56] <Abc> que no se puede
#3016 [13:56] <mdiax3000> "T"
#3017 [13:56] <yesac> mincrat launcher is blank
#3018 [13:56] <xales> Empyr90: I already said, "hardcore=true"
#3019 [13:56] <Abc> se ve que no entiendes...
#3020 [13:56] <Abc> oye
#3021 [13:57] <Abc> por aqui se puede hablar en privado verdad?
#3022 [13:57] <Empyr90> If i add the line hardcore=true, it will works ?
#3023 [13:57] <xales> Empyr90: That's what I've said twice now, yes.
#3024 [13:57] <mdiax3000> si
#3025 [13:57] <xales> yesac: Just click login.
#3026 [13:57] <Fenkys> xales: it cannot update before next week because there is some mod to upgrade. It's fantastic that they upgrade their mods in only seven days. But It cannot do that faster
#3027 [13:57] <Empyr90> Ok, thank you bro
#3028 [13:57] <Helloman892> Fenkys: Try Googling "1.2.5 minecraft.jar download." (DopeGhoti, I'm only suggesting it)
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#3030 [13:57] <trs`-> Hi, how fix a translate minecraft ?
#3031 [13:57] <Fenkys> Helloman892: already done
#3032 [13:58] <Helloman892> Oh, ok.
#3033 [13:58] <xales> Helloman892: Don't do that, either, please.
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#3036 [13:58] <Helloman892> Fenkys: Should be able to find it. Anyways, I'm done being illegal.
#3037 [13:58] <Fenkys> I try from 2 pm (it's 7 here now)
#3038 [13:58] <ev> yes i need help with my minecraft
#3039 [13:58] <Kealper> trs`-: http://crowdin.net/project/minecraft/
#3040 [13:58] <xales> Fenkys: You can try all you want. You have to either update the server, or downgrade your client. Neither of which we can help you with.
#3041 [13:58] <Helloman892> ev: ?
#3042 [13:58] <ev> yes
#3043 [13:59] <Helloman892> What's up?
#3044 [13:59] <ev> my i am trying to find my .minecraft but it is gone
#3045 [13:59] <Fenkys> I want to downgrade the client
#3046 [13:59] <ev> were can i download it
#3047 [13:59] <trs`-> @Kealper thx
#3048 [13:59] <Helloman892> ev: You can't.
#3049 [13:59] <xales> Fenkys: Unless you have a backup, you can't.
#3050 [13:59] <ev> what
#3051 [13:59] <xales> ev: Just run Minecraft again, and it will be automatically redownloaded for you.
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#3053 [13:59] <Helloman892> ev: Why don't you just download the game and ^
#3054 [13:59] <Helloman892> Lol, xales, you're doing it again XD
#3055 [14:00] <ev> so if i download minecraft from mine craft .com i will get it
#3056 [14:00] <yesac_> xales. looks like disabling avg linkscanner crap worked. i didn't have to delete anything though. thank you. but are you sure i don't NEED that component?
#3057 [14:00] <Fenkys> The law is very precise on that, when you buy a software, you buy all version older than the one you buy
#3058 [14:00] <Helloman892> Why do you put spaces in?
#3059 [14:00] <Helloman892> minecraft.net.
#3060 [14:00] <xales> yesac_: Yes, absolutely sure. It doesn't do anything, and it certainly doesn't protect you from malware.
#3061 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> ??> Fenkys distribution
#3062 [14:00] <VoxelHead> Fenkys: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#3063 [14:00] <VoxelHead> Fenkys: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#3064 [14:00] <ev> ty
#3065 [14:00] <Helloman892> www.minecraft.net/download
#3066 [14:00] <Helloman892> www.minecraft.net/download
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#3068 [14:00] <DopeGhoti> Fenkys: Final warning
#3069 [14:01] <slowfi> 1.3 gives you experience for mining coal
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#3071 [14:02] <Helloman892> DopeGhoti: Mojang state that distributing the game when the downloader doesn't own the game, but if they do, then it's perfectly legal.
#3072 [14:02] <yesac> thanks again.
#3073 [14:02] <Fenkys> I just request help, not illegal action
#3074 [14:02] <Helloman892> doesn't own the game is illegal*
#3075 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892: From the TOS page: "The One Major Rule
#3076 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> Do not distribute anything we've made. This includes, but not limited to, the client or the server software for the game. This also includes modified versions of anything we've made. "
#3077 [14:03] <Fenkys> Helloman892: sorry I don't understand
#3078 [14:03] <xales> Fenkys: We cannot help you downgrade the client. If you wanted to downgrade, then you should have thought about that before you upgraded.
#3079 [14:03] <DopeGhoti> end of discussion
#3080 [14:03] <Fenkys> xales, I have not choosen to upgrade.
#3081 [14:03] <Helloman892> Fine, fine.
#3082 [14:03] <Ash_> does anyone know how to fix the "connection lost internal exception java.net.socketexception connection reset" error when trying to join a multiplayer server in the 1.3 update?
#3083 [14:03] <Helloman892> Fenkys: Yes you did, by pressing that big 'Yes' button.
#3084 [14:04] <Fenkys> And even microsoft software have a cancel last action
#3085 [14:04] <Empyr90> i tried hardcore=true, it doesn't works
#3086 [14:04] <Fenkys> I've just press login
#3087 [14:04] <Helloman892> It replaces the file, and it's irreversible therefore.
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#3089 [14:04] <xales> Empyr90: Did you restart the server? Did you put it in the right server.properties file?
#3090 [14:04] <Helloman892> Back to AFK-ing.
#3091 [14:05] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> :P
#3092 [14:05] <Empyr90> yes i reboot 2 times and i have only one server properties so i didn't it wrong
#3093 [14:06] <xales> Empyr90: Well, if you did it correctly, then it would work.
#3094 [14:06] <Empyr90> omg i tiped harcore
#3095 [14:06] <Empyr90> -_-
#3096 [14:06] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> typed*
#3097 [14:06] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> :P
#3098 [14:06] <Empyr90> :(
#3099 [14:06] <treveri> hi, i have an issue with water. when i take it from a bucket, it's only running in 2 direction on a plain, although there's no block around
#3100 [14:06] <xales> treveri: Try putting a block on one of the sides it's not running, touching it, and destrying the block
#3101 [14:06] <DopeGhoti> treveri: there might be a subterranean cave or hole that's affecting the water's pathing.
#3102 [14:07] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> trevari: Before I go and buy chips, it's probably because there's a block update fail or ^.
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#3104 [14:07] <Fenkys> Even in solo version minecraft 1.3.1 is bugged
#3105 [14:07] <Ash_> i tryed restarting the server but it still doesnt work
#3106 [14:07] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> It is.
#3107 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892|BuyingChips: what kind of chips? Silicon, corn, or potato?
#3108 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> Fenkys: all versions of Minecraft have bugs.
#3109 [14:07] <DopeGhoti> some more so than others.
#3110 [14:07] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> POTATO! *irish accent* [/ilovekeithlemonsjokes]
#3111 [14:07] <Fenkys> Yes, but last version is the worse
#3112 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892|BuyingChips: what flavor?
#3113 [14:08] <treveri> y theres is a cave under the plain
#3114 [14:08] <Fenkys> worst than 1.2.5
#3115 [14:08] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> Special flavour.
#3116 [14:08] <DopeGhoti> Helloman892|BuyingChips: wrong! the correct answer is 'Salt & Vinegar'!
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#3118 [14:08] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> Lol XD
#3119 [14:08] <xales> Fenkys: Then you shouldn't have upgraded.
#3120 [14:08] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> Oh, I meant 'fries'.
#3121 [14:08] <mdiax> abc?
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#3123 [14:08] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> As in, fish&chip chips.
#3124 [14:09] <Fenkys> When I launche 1.3.1 in solo version, minecraft used 100% of cpu and 100% of memory and lag
#3125 [14:09] <DopeGhoti> HaltingState: Same toppings apply to chips as crisps.
#3126 [14:09] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> England is so epic.
#3127 [14:09] <Fenkys> version1.2.5 never did that
#3128 [14:09] <xales> Fenkys: Complaining isn't going to do anything. We cannot give you 1.2.5.
#3129 [14:09] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> Anyways, off I go.
#3130 [14:09] <xales> Please stop wasting your time, and ours. I'm not going to ask you again.
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#3132 [14:10] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> ??>> Fenkys dont/bother
#3133 [14:10] <TheMonitor56> hi everybody!
#3134 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> morning, TheMonitor56
#3135 [14:10] <xales> Hello
#3136 [14:10] <Mincer> Anybody else getting this error or can they help me with it? "The registry refers to a nonexistent java run time environment installation or the run time is corrupted" (Space) "The system cannon find the path specified.
#3137 [14:10] <Fenkys> OK, minecraft is actually totaly unusable on my computer. Where is an official channel of minecraft
#3138 [14:10] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> There isn't one.
#3139 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> Mincer: sounds like you need to reinstall Java
#3140 [14:10] <TheMonitor56> So, I'm sure that other people have had this issue, and I was wondering if anyone here could shine some light on it
#3141 [14:10] <Mincer> Ill try to....
#3142 [14:10] <xales> Fenkys: You're in one.
#3143 [14:10] <DopeGhoti> ??> TheMonitor56 win/javara
#3144 [14:10] <VoxelHead> TheMonitor56: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#3145 [14:10] <VoxelHead> TheMonitor56: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#3146 [14:11] <Empyr90> even hardcore=true, my server didn't ban me
#3147 [14:11] <xales> Mincer: ^
#3148 [14:11] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> Bye again.
#3149 [14:11] <xales> TheMonitor56: Wrong person, sorry. :p
#3150 [14:11] <Fenkys> Where is the customer service of Minecraft
#3151 [14:11] <xales> Empyr90: Did you restart the server?
#3152 [14:11] <TheMonitor56> I updated my game to 1.3.1, and now my server is unablet o be reached, do you guys have any idea why?
#3153 [14:11] <xales> Fenkys: There is no customer service.
#3154 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> !topic add We cannot and will not help you downgrade.
#3155 [14:11] <Empyr90> yes 2 times :/
#3156 [14:11] <xales> TheMonitor56: You need to update the server, as well.
#3157 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> TheMonitor56: did you upgrade your server also?
#3158 [14:11] <TheMonitor56> How do I do that?
#3159 [14:11] <xales> Empyr90: Then you did something incorrectly.
#3160 [14:11] <Fenkys> TheMonitor56: I'm happy not to be alone with this problem
#3161 [14:11] <DopeGhoti> TheMonitor56: replace the server .jar file
#3162 [14:11] * xales kicked Fenkys from #minecrafthelp (Reason: enkys :Enough is enough.)
#3163 [14:12] <TheMonitor56> Ok, well, where would that be located in the minecraft folder?
#3164 [14:12] <Empyr90> maybe because i type localhost ?
#3165 [14:12] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> xales: He deserved it. :)
#3166 [14:12] <Ash_> does anyone know how to fix the "connection lost internal exception java.net.socketexception connection reset" error when trying to connect to a server??
#3167 [14:12] <xales> TheMonitor56: Are you the person running the server?
#3168 [14:12] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> TheMonitor56: It's not IN your .minecraft folder.
#3169 [14:12] <xales> Ash_: The server is not updated. It needs to update before you can play on it.
#3170 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> Ash_ recentupdate
#3171 [14:12] <DopeGhoti> ??> Ash_ smp/recentupdate
#3172 [14:12] <xales> DopeGhoti: smp/recentupdate
#3173 [14:12] <VoxelHead> Ash_: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#3174 [14:12] <VoxelHead> Ash_: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#3175 [14:12] <TheMonitor56> I am
#3176 [14:12] <xales> TheMonitor56: The file you downloaded to start the server, just download it again and replace the old one.
#3177 [14:13] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> As said: It's not in your .minecraft folder.
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#3179 [14:13] <TheMonitor56> Ok well, would that mess up anything done in the server?
#3180 [14:13] <Helloman892|BuyingChips> [/buyingchipsignoreme]
#3181 [14:13] <Ash_> ok, thank you.
#3182 [14:13] <xales> TheMonitor56: Nope.
#3183 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> TheMonitor56: your map and players' data should be preserved.
#3184 [14:13] * ObliviArt [ObliviArt@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3185 [14:13] <DopeGhoti> it doesn't hurt to back up, however.
#3186 [14:13] <ObliviArt> hello again everyone
#3187 [14:13] * DopeGhoti recommends anyone running a server keep rolling daily backups
#3187 [14:14] <TheMonitor56> Sweet deal, and I have a separate server that I'm merely a part of, not the admin for; who do I contact then?
#3188 [14:14] <TheMonitor56> I pay for that server
#3189 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> TheMonitor56: you'd contact whomever is running the server
#3190 [14:14] <DopeGhoti> if you pay for it, it's your server; if you need assistance, contact the vendor through whom you have purchased hosting
#3191 [14:14] <TheMonitor56> Ohhh ok
#3192 [14:14] <TheMonitor56> Man
#3193 [14:14] <TheMonitor56> you guys
#3194 [14:14] <TheMonitor56> are awesome
#3195 [14:15] <ObliviArt> so what do i need to know about the recent update in regards to running a server...specificly why can i not connect to it after update?
#3196 [14:15] <xales> ObliviArt: You need to update the server, as well
#3197 [14:16] <ObliviArt> ok, um how do i do that?
#3198 [14:16] <lutzee> Is it your server ObliviArt ?
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#3200 [14:16] <ObliviArt> yes
#3201 [14:16] <xales> Redownload the file you used to start the server, and replace the old one with it
#3202 [14:16] <lutzee> terminate the process download the new jar/exe from minecraft.net/download run that file instead
#3203 [14:16] <lutzee> just replace the old one
#3204 [14:16] <ObliviArt> hmm and if i tranfer over the world file will it keep the world?
#3205 [14:17] <ZeroYams> Can someone help me please?
#3206 [14:17] <xales> ObliviArt: You don't need to transfer anything, just move the old file out of the way and put the new one where it was
#3207 [14:17] <xales> ZeroYams: With?
#3208 [14:17] <ZeroYams> When I try to update MineCraft it gets stuck on the loading bar :/
#3209 [14:17] <lutzee> ObliviArt, if your just replace the old file with the new one and start the server it will use the same files
#3210 [14:17] <Fekauff> ((New Question: 1.3.1 CTD after about 4-5 minutes of play. Anyone seen this?))
#3211 [14:17] <xales> ZeroYams: Do you have AVG?
#3212 [14:17] <ZeroYams> Yes
#3213 [14:18] <xales> ZeroYams: You need to disable "LinkScanner" or "Surfsafe Shield"
#3214 [14:18] <ZeroYams> How do I do that
#3215 [14:18] <Empyr90> i dont know why my server dont ban me when i die :/
#3216 [14:18] <ObliviArt> so just replace the minecraft.exe then?
#3217 [14:18] <xales> Empyr90: We don't know, either
#3218 [14:18] <Empyr90> all that i done is good
#3219 [14:18] <Mincer> I still am getting that error ever time i attempt to start Minecraft.
#3220 [14:18] <xales> ObliviArt: minecraft_server.exe or minecraft_server.jar
#3221 [14:18] <ObliviArt> ok
#3222 [14:18] <ObliviArt> brb will try that
#3223 [14:18] <xales> ZeroYams: Double click the AVG icon in the bottom right hand corner, in the tray
#3224 [14:19] <ZeroYams> Okay
#3225 [14:19] <Empyr90> someone can try to do a local server in hardcore to see if it works ?
#3226 [14:19] <xales> Mincer: Uninstall Java, every version that is listed, and then try installing it again from java.com
#3227 [14:19] <xales> Empyr90: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Server.properties
#3228 [14:20] <ZeroYams> Then what?
#3229 [14:20] <xales> ZeroYams: Is "LinkScanner" listed somewhere there?
#3230 [14:20] * SgtTraveler|afk [SgtTraveler|afk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3231 [14:20] <ZeroYams> Yes
#3232 [14:20] <xales> Go to it, and uncheck the two checkboxes
#3233 [14:20] <lutzee> The minecraft server does not natively support deathban as fas as i know, don't see it added in 1.3
#3234 [14:21] <ZeroYams> Okay then I save changes?
#3235 [14:21] <xales> ZeroYams: Yes
#3236 [14:21] <xales> lutzee: It was added in 1.3
#3237 [14:21] <ObliviArt> that did the trick xales tyvm
#3238 [14:21] <lutzee> Really?
#3239 [14:21] <xales> lutzee: "hardcore boolean false If set to true, players will be permanently banned if they die."
#3240 [14:21] <ZeroYams> Okay thanks. Should I re-enable them after?
#3241 [14:21] <Mincer> I am just going to restart my computer.
#3242 [14:21] <xales> ZeroYams: No, you can just leave them disabled.
#3243 [14:21] <Kealper> lutzee: yes, it won't unban you, but in hardcore mode it will ban you forever on death
#3244 [14:21] <Empyr90> i J'ai copié les lignes et ca n'a pas fonctionné
#3245 [14:21] <Empyr90> I copied the lines and it did not work
#3246 [14:21] <ZeroYams> Okay I'll see if it works
#3247 [14:21] <lutzee> Oh cool :)
#3248 [14:21] <Kealper> lutzee: so a simple wrapper could be made for the server to give timed deathbans... i'm slightly happy about that lol
#3249 [14:22] <xales> Kealper's Timed Deathban SuperServer?
#3250 [14:22] <xales> Kealper: Oh shit, Win8 RTM
#3251 [14:22] <Kealper> xales: don't tempt me... with the new things in 1.3, i can have waypoints and everything
#3252 [14:23] <Fekauff> Can anyone tell me how to go about fixing a CTD with 1.3.1? Any idea what generally causes it?
#3253 [14:23] <Kealper> xales: garbage, do not even touch with 10 foot pole while wearing a biohazard suit
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#3255 [14:23] <xales> Fekauff: Were you using any mods before you updated?
#3256 [14:23] <Fekauff> Nope, no mods.
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#3258 [14:24] <xales> Hmm. Have you tried with a world created in 1.3.1?
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#3260 [14:24] <Fekauff> Yes. I just created a new one-- after 4 or 5 minutes, CTD. I wasn't doing anything fancy.
#3261 [14:24] <zick> hey doesn anyone know how me aand my friend can go back to using 1.2.5 bukkit server?
#3262 [14:24] <Kealper> zick: you'll have to find a way to downgrade your client and your server
#3263 [14:25] <zick> do you know where i can find the 1.2.5 jar?
#3264 [14:25] <Kealper> zick: try googling "MC Nostolgia", that should lead you to something that you can use to downgrade your clients
#3265 [14:25] <lutzee> A friend?
#3266 [14:25] <lutzee> Mcnostagia won't be updated yet
#3267 [14:25] <Kealper> it will still have the 1.2.5 jars though
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#3269 [14:26] <Empyr90> Ok I managed to run the hardcore mode, you had to recreate a world
#3270 [14:26] <zick> cool thanks for the help :D
#3271 [14:26] <lutzee> Nope, it uses patches to patch the files, and it has no clue what v1.3 is
#3272 [14:26] <bman> Is there a way to specify the IP/Interface that LAN mode uses?
#3273 [14:26] <carhrota> bman: no, apparently not
#3274 [14:26] <bman> Ghey
#3275 [14:26] <carhrota> I've got exactly the same problem
#3276 [14:26] <Kealper> lutzee: hmm... i see your point
#3277 [14:27] <Fekauff> xales: I had this issue before 1.3.1 also on this specific machine-- I don't think I've ever seen CTD in Minecraft on any other machine, though.
#3278 [14:27] <xales> Fekauff: Oh. Try updating your video card driver, then
#3279 [14:28] <Fekauff> I will look and see if it's out-of-date, but it should be current. I just set up the machine again within the past week.
#3280 [14:28] <zick> wait will MCnostolga work with the 1.3 becuase it is just reverting binarys n shit it wont recognoize 1.3
#3281 [14:28] <zick> ?
#3282 [14:29] <lutzee> No it won't till it is updated
#3283 [14:29] <Kealper> zick: scratch that, MC Nostolgia won't work as lutzee pointed out
#3284 [14:29] <Kealper> zick: i'll PM you something in a second, look for my name at the top of your screen
#3285 [14:29] <lutzee> Find a friend who hasn't updated
#3286 [14:29] <Fekauff> xales: Also, it's a 64-bit machine, but using 32-bit Java (if that may make any difference).
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#3288 [14:30] <xales> Fekauff: It very well could, I'd suggest removing 32-bit Java and downloading the 64-bit JRE.
#3289 [14:30] <cody> hey
#3290 [14:30] <cody> really need some help here
#3291 [14:30] <cody> ok so hear me out
#3292 [14:30] <lutzee> cody, what is the problem?
#3293 [14:30] <Fekauff> xales: I'mma do both those things. I'll check back if no joy.
#3294 [14:30] <cody> ik this site doesn't help for mods but i have an issue
#3295 [14:30] <Fekauff> xales: Thank you!
#3296 [14:30] <xales> Yep, good luck
#3297 [14:30] <Guest85977> ok
#3298 [14:30] <Guest85977> so
#3299 [14:31] <Guest85977> i have a mac
#3300 [14:31] <Guest85977> and i want to get tale of kingdoms on my minecraft
#3301 [14:31] <lutzee> Guest85977, ask in #risucraft for mod help
#3302 [14:31] <Guest85977> and is that just back at the screen i found this chat on?
#3303 [14:32] <lutzee> use /join #risucraft and ask there
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#3305 [14:40] <sp1> hi
#3306 [14:40] <lutzee> hey
#3307 [14:40] <sp1> me and a frined found this 2-3 player survival map taht we want to try to play together
#3308 [14:40] <sp1> 2-4
#3309 [14:40] <lutzee> okay
#3310 [14:40] <sp1> do we need a server? or can we connect directly?
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#3312 [14:40] <sp1> soory for being noob
#3313 [14:41] <Generalcamo> As of 1.3.1, you can connect directly IIRC
#3314 [14:41] <sp1> yes, but then we need some port forwarding or something set up?
#3315 [14:41] <zick> ya
#3316 [14:41] <lutzee> Er if you are connecting over the internet then you need a server
#3317 [14:41] <Generalcamo> But if its LAN then I don't think so
#3318 [14:42] <lutzee> you could look into using hamachi if you don't want to port forward
#3319 [14:42] <sp1> yea, it says scanning for lan worlds
#3320 [14:42] <lutzee> Are you two in the same house?
#3321 [14:42] <sp1> can i use some existing server, and we use it to play our map on it?
#3322 [14:42] <sp1> no, we are not in the same place
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#3324 [14:42] <diymaker> hi
#3325 [14:42] <sp1> hi
#3326 [14:43] <lutzee> Thought so, you will need the server files and some form of connection
#3327 [14:43] <diymaker> sup
#3328 [14:43] <lutzee> 'be it port forward or logmein hamachi'
#3329 [14:43] <sp1> i guess hamachi would work.. but id rather use some existing server
#3330 [14:43] <diymaker> i have 3 servers
#3331 [14:43] <carhrota> sp1: I think there was this service where you could get free temporary servers for adventure maps; don't know how it was called, though ... neither how it works. You might ask a search engine of your choice about it.
#3332 [14:43] <diymaker> 4 actually
#3333 [14:43] <sp1> okaay
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#3335 [14:44] <diymaker> i am wondering if i can change my minecraft prinium acc into a giftcode ?
#3336 [14:44] <sp1> is it hard to set up a server? the port forwarding part is easy peasy for me..
#3337 [14:44] <lutzee> Not possible
#3338 [14:45] <diymaker> :(
#3339 [14:45] <lutzee> ??> sp1 smp/serversetup
#3340 [14:45] <VoxelHead> sp1: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#3341 [14:45] <VoxelHead> sp1: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#3342 [14:45] <sp1> cool.. thanks!
#3343 [14:45] <diymaker> setting a server is a piece of cake'
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#3345 [14:46] <zick> does anyone wanna come play on a server?
#3346 [14:46] <diymaker> is sumbiting the commerials for 1.3.1 still open
#3347 [14:46] <diymaker> and yes i want
#3348 [14:46] <zick> it would be a 1.2.5 server
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#3350 [14:46] <diymaker> ok
#3351 [14:46] <Mincer> I am still getting the error i have deleted my .Minecraft and i have tried deleting and re-installing Java.
#3352 [14:47] <lutzee> diymaker, smp commertials are in #smp
#3353 [14:47] <ZQFMBG> can someone help me? i cant make a LAN game even though my friend and i are on the same internet connection/
#3354 [14:47] <ZQFMBG> well i can make it lan but he cant join it
#3355 [14:47] <Generalcamo> Hey, I want to force a LAN server on a specific port
#3356 [14:48] <Generalcamo> How do I do that?
#3357 [14:48] <xales> zick: Please do not advertise here.
#3358 [14:48] <xales> Generalcamo: From what I understand, it is not possible.
#3359 [14:48] <xales> (At the moment, anyway)
#3360 [14:48] <lutzee> And why should it matter much?
#3361 [14:48] <xales> ZQFMBG: You can try looking on the wiki/forum for help with using that feature.
#3362 [14:48] <Generalcamo> Because others cannot connect
#3363 [14:49] <lutzee> Ports are only really needed for an outside connection,
#3364 [14:49] <xales> lutzee: Port-forwarding :p
#3365 [14:49] <lutzee> LAN connection is only for LAN
#3366 [14:49] <ZQFMBG> xales: i checked on the wiki it said as long as everyone is connected to the same router/switch it should work
#3367 [14:49] <ZQFMBG> and we are
#3368 [14:49] <lutzee> I doubt it would accept connections from the outside even if you tried
#3369 [14:49] <xales> ZQFMBG: Is there a firewall running on the host system? You will likely need to disable it.
#3370 [14:50] <ZQFMBG> xales: oh, yeah you are probably right. thanks a lot for the help!
#3371 [14:50] <ZQFMBG> xales: earlier when i made it it said something about a firewall
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#3373 [14:51] <Martin> hi
#3374 [14:51] <Martin> i suppouse the basic language is the English
#3375 [14:51] <Martin> im asking for help
#3376 [14:51] <xales> Generally, yes. There may be someone here that speaks your language, however.
#3377 [14:51] <xales> What do you need help with?
#3378 [14:52] <Martin> im really new to the official version of minecraft
#3379 [14:52] <Martin> i just bought the game few hours ago
#3380 [14:52] <Martin> and i wanted to play online, through net, with others
#3381 [14:52] <Martin> could you help me set up my connection?
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#3383 [14:53] <lutzee> You will need to add a server to the list
#3384 [14:53] <lutzee> A large public server is s.nerd.nu
#3385 [14:53] <lutzee> ?? smp/servers
#3386 [14:53] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3387 [14:53] <Martin> so i cant browse through all?
#3388 [14:53] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#3389 [14:53] <lutzee> ^ read that
#3390 [14:53] <Martin> thanks
#3391 [14:53] <Mincer> I am still getting the error i have deleted my .Minecraft and i have tried deleting and re-installing Java. The error is "The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupted (space) The system cannont find the path specified".
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#3393 [14:54] <lutzee> Mincer, you broke something badly
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#3395 [14:54] <lutzee> you'll need to reformat your PC to fix everything
#3396 [14:54] <lutzee> you will probably need some professional help with doing that
#3397 [14:54] <Acornpeanut> I just bought minecraft and am trying to download it but says i can not connect to minecraft.net...but internet is working perfectly can someone help
#3398 [14:54] <Mincer> You think i could restore it far enough back to when minecraft worked?
#3399 [14:54] <lutzee> Acornpeanut, what antivisus do you use?
#3400 [14:55] <Helloman892> Acornpeanut: What is your version of Java?
#3401 [14:55] <Helloman892> Answer lutzee first :P
#3402 [14:55] <Acornpeanut> AVG and Java 2 platform
#3403 [14:56] <Helloman892> JAVA 2?
#3404 [14:56] <Acornpeanut> ummm
#3405 [14:56] <lutzee> Well we'll go with AVG as the main cause
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#3407 [14:56] <Acornpeanut> okies its 1.5
#3408 [14:56] <Helloman892> Yes.
#3409 [14:56] <lutzee> you will need to disable the linkscanner and/or surfsafe modules in AVG
#3410 [14:57] <Helloman892> Acornpeanut: 1.5 is too early a version, I belivev.
#3411 [14:57] <Acornpeanut> i will check both thanks
#3412 [14:57] <Mincer> Lutzee, I am able to run minecraft through the Technic launcher.
#3413 [14:57] <Acornpeanut> apperciate the help i was lost
#3414 [14:57] <hrbatta> i just wanna know what happen right here ------> http://pastebin.com/qiqe7Qsz
#3415 [14:58] <Kealper> Helloman892: Minecraft is compatible with 1.5+, Mojang keeps it supporting 1.5 because older Macs can only have up to 1.5
#3416 [14:58] <Helloman892> Kealper: Thanks for clearing that one up.
#3417 [14:58] <Helloman892> ??< jaava/1.5
#3418 [14:58] <Helloman892> ??< java/1.5
#3419 [14:59] <Helloman892> Lol
#3420 [14:59] <xales> Kealper: Not on Windows though
#3421 [14:59] <xales> 1.5 on Windows doesn't work, AFAIK
#3422 [14:59] <Kealper> xales: oh, i haven't tested it on Windows with 1.5, so you could be right
#3423 [14:59] <hrbatta> i just wanna know what happen right here ------> http://pastebin.com/qiqe7Qsz
#3424 [15:00] <lutzee> hrbatta, i'm looking one second
#3425 [15:00] <Helloman892> hrbatta: Don't spam, we can read. I'll get right on it.
#3426 [15:00] <hrbatta> okay thanks for look.
#3427 [15:00] <Helloman892> hrbatta: Holy sh*t, what were you doing!?
#3428 [15:01] <lutzee> hrbatta, you have a block that was a chest but has become dirt, but the game thinks it is still a chest in some cases
#3429 [15:01] <lutzee> Helloman892, that looks like a massive load of debugging stuff in 1.3,
#3430 [15:01] <lutzee> the stack trace is at the bottum
#3431 [15:01] <Helloman892> lutzee: I think his/her's game is just on a really strong version of crack cocaine.
#3432 [15:01] <Helloman892> And, I agree.
#3433 [15:02] <hrbatta> i was looking in the ground and i hold space down to jump and the crash happend
#3434 [15:02] <lutzee> hrbatta, basically part of your world is corrupt
#3435 [15:02] <Martin> thanks for the help
#3436 [15:02] <hrbatta> it was on multiplayer
#3437 [15:02] <Helloman892> lutzee: Agreed, I was just about to say the same XD
#3438 [15:02] <Martin> im cool now :)
#3439 [15:02] <Martin> by
#3440 [15:03] <lutzee> have fun Martin :)
#3441 [15:03] <lutzee> dog
#3442 [15:03] <lutzee> doh*
#3443 [15:03] <Helloman892> hrbatta: Then the server world is corrupt.
#3444 [15:03] <Generalcamo> Hey guys
#3445 [15:03] <hrbatta> i play with my friends 1 hour now and they dont crash ?
#3446 [15:03] <Generalcamo> I am in a LAN worlse with a friend
#3447 [15:03] <Generalcamo> world
#3448 [15:03] <Helloman892> lutzee: You may have noticed 'MPServer' alot in there.
#3449 [15:03] <Generalcamo> But I can't see my friend, even though my friend can see me
#3450 [15:04] <lutzee> Helloman892, yes, i know
#3451 [15:04] <Helloman892> Generalcamo: Just wait, it's a bug.
#3452 [15:05] <Helloman892> Unfortunately, I don't know much about 1.3.1. I don't have it.
#3453 [15:05] <diymaker> is sumbiting the commerials for 1.3.1 still open
#3454 [15:05] <Helloman892> I do not believe so.
#3455 [15:05] <diymaker> :(
#3456 [15:05] <diymaker> i am working on it
#3457 [15:05] <Helloman892> But, don't ask just me.
#3458 [15:05] <lutzee> Er doubt it
#3459 [15:05] <Helloman892> Ask someone else, as well.
#3460 [15:06] <diymaker> i will see the other irc
#3461 [15:06] <Helloman892> *other than lutzee
#3462 [15:06] * Helloman892 is sorry
#3462 [15:06] * diymaker [diymaker@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3463 [15:06] <Helloman892> Lol
#3464 [15:06] * Helloman892 is sorry
#3464 [15:06] <Helloman892> (again)
#3465 [15:06] * Elystus [Elystus@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3466 [15:06] <Helloman892> WOOO
#3467 [15:06] <Helloman892> Elystus! You've arrived to save my ass!
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#3471 [15:07] <Dreggmar> hello...
#3472 [15:07] <Elystus> ?! I have?
#3473 [15:07] <einand> Hello
#3474 [15:07] <Helloman892> Yes.
#3475 [15:07] <Helloman892> Dreggmar, what's up?
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#3478 [15:08] <GeorgFaust> Hello everyone. I need some help with a connection problem and didn't find an answer in the forums or on google...
#3479 [15:08] <Dreggmar> Question: Since todays update my multiplayer will not connect. Giving me End Of Stream error...is this related to the update or do I maybe have other issues>
#3480 [15:08] <Helloman892> GeordFaust: Explain.
#3481 [15:09] <lutzee> Dreggmar, you are trying to connect to a 1.2.5 server from 1.3
#3482 [15:09] <Helloman892> Dreggmar: Most server's haven't updated.
#3483 [15:09] <turt123> i downloaded minecraft 1.3.1 and i downgraded it to 1.2.5 how do i get back to 1.3.1?
#3484 [15:09] <Helloman892> servers*
#3485 [15:09] <Helloman892> turtl23: Just open Minecraft.
#3486 [15:09] <turt123> i did
#3487 [15:09] <Elystus> turt123: Just do a force-update.
#3488 [15:09] <lutzee> force update
#3489 [15:09] <turt123> ti downgraded it to 1.2.5
#3490 [15:09] <Helloman892> Login, and ^
#3491 [15:10] <Dreggmar> Thanks LUTZEE...are the new server versions available for download yet?
#3492 [15:10] <turt123> i didnt restart the computer =c
#3493 [15:10] <GeorgFaust> My MC-Client cant connect to minecraft.net, but i can connect on the website or via the tekkit launcher. So i guess my client is the problem. any ideas?
#3494 [15:10] <lutzee> Dreggmar, vanilla servers are available at minecraft.net
#3495 [15:10] <Helloman892> GeorgFaust: What is your Java version?
#3496 [15:10] <lutzee> but a lot of large servers use bukkit
#3497 [15:10] <GeorgFaust> have to check - mom
#3498 [15:11] <GeorgFaust> Java Version 1.7.0_05
#3499 [15:12] <Helloman892> There's your problem.
#3500 [15:12] <Dreggmar> Lutzee...I will go check. So download vanilla server and replace my old with that. Can I move my data files over to the new server afterwards?
#3501 [15:12] <Helloman892> Java 1.7 U5 is incompatible with Minecraft.
#3502 [15:12] <lutzee> Dreggmar, you can replace the old minecraft_server.exe with the new one
#3503 [15:12] <lutzee> then just run it
#3504 [15:12] <GeorgFaust> Okay - which version will work?
#3505 [15:12] <Helloman892> (or, v1.7.0_05.)
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#3507 [15:13] <turt123> im still having problems
#3508 [15:13] <Helloman892> Version 1.6.0_32, or v6u32.
#3509 [15:13] <lutzee> Use u33
#3510 [15:13] <Helloman892> Or ^
#3511 [15:13] <lutzee> as that is the last in the v6 line
#3512 [15:13] <Helloman892> Sorry, I'm still on 32 XD
#3513 [15:13] <Dreggmar> Lutzee Thanks a ton...have a couple friends waiting to get on my server. :) Huge help...thanks again.
#3514 [15:13] <GeorgFaust> ...still wondering why tekkit runs and the webversion
#3515 [15:13] <turt123> can someone help me?
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#3517 [15:13] <Helloman892> The launcher is the incompatible bit.
#3518 [15:14] <JmDm> ?
#3519 [15:14] <turt123> why cant i update to 1.3.1 again?
#3520 [15:14] <Helloman892> The Technic Launcher connects via IPv6 and IPv4, but Notch's launcher only connects via IPv4.
#3521 [15:14] <GeorgFaust> So I just have to download an older version of java and deinstall the new one, right?
#3522 [15:14] <lutzee> ??> turt123 force/update
#3523 [15:14] <Helloman892> Correct.
#3524 [15:14] <lutzee> gah
#3525 [15:14] <turt123> how do i force update?
#3526 [15:15] <GeorgFaust> Thanks - will try that
#3527 [15:15] <JmDm> I need help downloading the new one
#3528 [15:15] <lutzee> ??> turt123 forceupdate
#3529 [15:15] <VoxelHead> turt123: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3530 [15:15] <VoxelHead> turt123: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3531 [15:15] <Helloman892> GeorgFaust: Remember the registry entries, however.
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#3533 [15:15] <JmDm> I try downloading it and it freezes
#3534 [15:15] <turt123> thanks
#3535 [15:15] <Naugh> ello everyone
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#3537 [15:16] <JmDm> Help?
#3538 [15:16] <Naugh> @JmDm: for?
#3539 [15:16] <JmDm> I try downloading 1.3.1 but it freezes
#3540 [15:16] <GeorgFaust> Helloman. Searching the registry for all entrys about java or is there an easier way?
#3541 [15:16] <Naugh> :o
#3542 [15:16] <lutzee> JmDm, what antivirus are you using?
#3543 [15:16] <Helloman892> Be right back.
#3544 [15:16] <xales> JmDm: I assume you are using AVG?
#3545 [15:16] <JmDm> AVG
#3546 [15:16] <JmDm> Yeah
#3547 [15:16] <xales> JmDm: Disable the LinkScanner module
#3548 [15:16] <JmDm> Ok
#3549 [15:16] <lutzee> GeorgFaust, don't mess with the registry if you do not know what you are doing
#3550 [15:16] <Naugh> add it to the exception list
#3551 [15:16] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> There's an easier way.
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#3553 [15:17] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> Which I can't remember right now.
#3554 [15:17] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> Back in a bit.
#3555 [15:17] <tawiturtle> can some one help me with a problem?
#3556 [15:17] <lutzee> ?? ask
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#3558 [15:17] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#3559 [15:17] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#3560 [15:17] <GeorgFaust> lutzee: Always working with backups to be sure, but i would prefer "the easier way" if someone rembers that :-)
#3561 [15:18] <xales> GeorgFaust: You can just uninstall 1.7 and install 1.6
#3562 [15:18] <Sgt_Slaughterx> I don't know how to play online can you help me walk through it?
#3563 [15:18] <GeorgFaust> That's all? Helloman mentioned the registry entries - can i ignore them when i deinstall 1.7?
#3564 [15:19] <lutzee> Sgt_Slaughterx, you must add servers to the server list
#3565 [15:19] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> xales: Minecraft then has a go at you for the registry pointing to a non-existant version of Java.
#3566 [15:19] <xales> GeorgFaust: You can just ignore them, yes
#3567 [15:19] <lutzee> ??> Sgt_Slaughterx smp/server
#3568 [15:19] <lutzee> ??> Sgt_Slaughterx smp/servers
#3569 [15:19] <Sgt_Slaughterx> How
#3570 [15:19] <VoxelHead> Sgt_Slaughterx: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#3571 [15:19] <VoxelHead> Sgt_Slaughterx: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#3572 [15:19] <tawiturtle> well i downdloaded 1.3.1 and i tryed to play on a single player world and when i do it well load and then show the home screen frozen for a couple secounds and then minecraft crashes, can some one help?
#3573 [15:19] <xales> Helloman892|DownTheShop: Uninstalling it normally shouldn't have any issues
#3574 [15:19] <GeorgFaust> Thanks for the info. Will try that now
#3575 [15:19] <xales> tawiturtle: Were you using mods in that world?
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#3577 [15:20] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> xales: There's a conventional way to delete it without going into Program Files?
#3578 [15:20] <tawiturtle> no i made a new one and it did the same thing
#3579 [15:20] <xales> Helloman892|DownTheShop: Uhh, just uninstalling it, using the uninstaller...
#3580 [15:20] <JmDm> Still working on it..
#3581 [15:20] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> :O
#3582 [15:20] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> What uninstaller?
#3583 [15:20] <lutzee> Helloman892|DownTheShop, add remove programs in control panel
#3584 [15:20] <xales> ^
#3585 [15:20] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> That one.
#3586 [15:20] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> Lol
#3587 [15:20] <lutzee> if you just delete files thats what causes registry problems...
#3588 [15:21] <lutzee> as the registry thinks they are there
#3589 [15:21] <JmDm> You guys are the best
#3590 [15:21] <lutzee> uninstallers will remove the entries
#3591 [15:21] <JmDm> <3
#3592 [15:21] <JmDm> I got mine working
#3593 [15:21] <JmDm> I got mine working
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#3595 [15:21] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> Yes, and Georg said that he was simply 'deleting' the files.
#3596 [15:21] <lutzee> which is bad
#3597 [15:21] <lutzee> very bad
#3598 [15:21] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> Indeed.
#3599 [15:21] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> No-one must make the same mistake as me.
#3600 [15:22] <lutzee> Never delete anything in /programfiles/
#3601 [15:22] * Helloman892|DownTheShop is officially down the shops
#3601 [15:22] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> shop*
#3602 [15:22] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> :P
#3603 [15:22] <lutzee> long names are horrible :p
#3604 [15:22] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> Lol IK>
#3605 [15:22] <GeorgFaust> Sorry if you misunderstood my poor english - but i didnt just want to delete the files :-)
#3606 [15:23] <lutzee> the fuck
#3607 [15:23] <lutzee> brb
#3608 [15:23] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> Oh, ok XD
#3609 [15:23] <lutzee> Someones on my nick even though it is registered
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#3611 [15:23] <cody> hey
#3612 [15:23] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> Wait, I'll tell you something.
#3613 [15:23] <cody> so how do i get help with mods?
#3614 [15:23] <cody> i know i have to type this#risucraft
#3615 [15:24] <lutzee> cody in #risucraft
#3616 [15:24] <cody> but how do i actually cahnge
#3617 [15:24] <lutzee> double click it
#3618 [15:24] <Guest53276> ok thatnk you
#3619 [15:24] <Guest53276> #risucraft
#3620 [15:24] <xales> "/join #risucraft"
#3621 [15:24] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> #j risucraft
#3622 [15:24] <Helloman892|DownTheShop> fail
#3623 [15:25] <zen> better
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#3625 [15:26] <sp1> ok, so i installed my own server and made it run a map i got from the internet... but i cannot mine any blocks at all in this map.. the blocks just reappear
#3626 [15:26] <antoniss95> Hello, does anyone know how can i download minecraft ? I hit login and it tell me "Login Failed" (Not downloaded)
#3627 [15:26] <sp1> how can i make the map a 'normal' survival map
#3628 [15:26] <carhrota> sp1: are you op?
#3629 [15:26] <sp1> so both me and my friend can smash blocks
#3630 [15:26] <sp1> yes
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#3632 [15:26] <sp1> but im completely new to this
#3633 [15:27] <Helloman892|afk> 2 Ignanas?
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#3635 [15:27] <zen> sp1 chances are you are in the spawn area protection
#3636 [15:28] <carhrota> that's why I asked whether he was OP.. but if he is, the protection should not apply for him :/
#3637 [15:28] <sp1> maybe im not op..
#3638 [15:28] <sp1> i mean, i run the server.. so i can do anything.. just need to know what and how
#3639 [15:29] <zen> on the server console to "op <player>"
#3640 [15:29] <zen> <player> being your minecraft user names
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#3642 [15:29] <sp1> ok.. now i can smash things
#3643 [15:29] <sp1> i just op my friend too then
#3644 [15:30] <sp1> thanks!
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#3646 [15:30] <Moon> My account got hacke
#3647 [15:30] <Moon> I need help
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#3649 [15:31] <addam> i keep getting internal exception: java.net.sockettimeoutexception : read timeout help me please
#3650 [15:31] <zen> addam, you are trying to connect to a 1.2.5 server from 1.3 most likely
#3651 [15:31] <zen> am i correct?
#3652 [15:32] <addam> might i using mieshafter
#3653 [15:32] <zen> We con't support any mods/custom launchers here
#3654 [15:33] <addam> where can i go for my qustesion for
#3655 [15:33] <zen> No clue, if you are using 1.3 you cannot connect to 1.2.5 servers
#3656 [15:34] <zen> That i will say now
#3657 [15:34] <addam> k thank you
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#3660 [15:37] <burnaxide> why can not I download my craft 1.3.1
#3661 [15:38] <burnaxide> minecraft
#3662 [15:38] <Helloman892|afk> ??> burnaxide forceupdate
#3663 [15:38] <VoxelHead> burnaxide: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3664 [15:38] <VoxelHead> burnaxide: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3665 [15:38] <Helloman892|afk> Try that.
#3666 [15:38] <Helloman892|afk> K I go AFK (again :P)
#3667 [15:39] <burnaxide> i haw tried it and it start to download but den stops on diffrent % evry time
#3668 [15:39] <Helloman892|afk> Elystus, pl0x take over.
#3669 [15:39] <xales> burnaxide: Are you using AVG?
#3670 [15:39] <burnaxide> jes
#3671 [15:39] <Elystus> Whats going on?
#3672 [15:39] <burnaxide> yse
#3673 [15:39] <Helloman892|afk> Read ^
#3674 [15:39] <burnaxide> yes
#3675 [15:39] <Helloman892|afk> :P
#3676 [15:39] <Helloman892|afk> :P
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#3678 [15:40] <Elystus> burnaxide: Disable the link scanning module of AVG and it should work.
#3679 [15:40] <burnaxide> oki i wil try
#3680 [15:40] <burnaxide> :)
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#3682 [15:41] <Yuttl> I need help, anyone up to helping me?
#3683 [15:41] <burnaxide> tnx it worked
#3684 [15:42] <Yuttl> Anyone at all :(? This is #minecrafthelp
#3685 [15:43] <carhrota> Yuttl: don't ask to ask; if you ask maybe someone knows the answer ;)
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#3688 [15:45] <Yuttl> Okay, so my problem is that I setup a server, but my "friend"(whom I actually hate) cannot connect.
#3689 [15:45] <Questioner> hello, I have a problem with connecting a server
#3690 [15:45] <Questioner> I have this error: INTERNAL EXCEPTION JAVA.NET.SOCKETEXCEPTION: CONNECTION RESET
#3691 [15:45] <Yuttl> I forwarded the ports to 25565, changed my IP to static at 71.84.246.68 and such
#3692 [15:45] <xales> Questioner: The server is not updated, you need to wait until the server admin updates it.
#3693 [15:46] <xales> Yuttl: What happens when they try to connect?
#3694 [15:46] <Helloman892> ^
#3695 [15:46] <Questioner> ok, i test it on my friend and i
#3696 [15:46] <Questioner> brb
#3697 [15:46] <Yuttl> My "friend" gets the server connection time out message
#3698 [15:46] <Helloman892> Why let him connect regardless?
#3699 [15:47] <Yuttl> erm well he wants to and you know . . .
#3700 [15:47] <Yuttl> I have a difficulty saying no
#3701 [15:47] <Helloman892> Ok. Go jump off a bridge. Can't say no? Your loss.
#3702 [15:48] <Yuttl> Well if my "friend" asked me I would take him with me and push him off
#3703 [15:48] <Yuttl> then I'd get in trouble with the police :(
#3704 [15:48] <Helloman892> Got it,.
#3705 [15:48] <Yuttl> And my parents would be so ashamed and dishonoured. . . anyways, any idea on the problem?
#3706 [15:49] <Helloman892> Noope.
#3707 [15:49] <xales> Yuttl: It sounds like you didn't port forward correctly, or the server is not running, or it's being blocked by a firewall
#3708 [15:49] <Helloman892> What if I ping EVERYONE? :D
#3709 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Then you get kicked/banned
#3710 [15:51] <Helloman892> GreyVulpine: I didn't ping you, right?
#3711 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> You just did
#3712 [15:51] <Helloman892> Lol
#3713 [15:51] <Helloman892> Oh yeah.
#3714 [15:51] <Questioner> its not working my friend has the error to on a updated server
#3715 [15:51] <Questioner> on server:lost connection: disconnect.genericReason
#3716 [15:51] <Kealper> pinging everyone = first op to notice gets to have some fun with whoever did it
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#3718 [15:52] <Helloman892> Kealper: Lol.
#3719 [15:52] <Questioner> on client: http://imgur.com/i3Hsl
#3720 [15:52] <Questioner> so how can i solve this problem
#3721 [15:52] <Questioner> or how can he fix it
#3722 [15:52] <Kealper> Questioner: does it happen on every server you try?
#3723 [15:53] <Questioner> yes
#3724 [15:53] <xales> Kealper: Could be related to the system date, look at that :p
#3725 [15:53] <xales> anyway
#3726 [15:53] <Questioner> i have tryed on more than 2
#3727 [15:53] * xales bbl
#3727 [15:53] <GeorgFaust> Hello again. Changing Java Version to 1.6 u 32 didn't fix my connection problem :-/
#3728 [15:53] <Helloman892> Questioner: Nice desktop!
#3729 [15:53] <Questioner> and my friend too
#3730 [15:53] <Kealper> Questioner: are you sure those servers are running 1.3? also as xales said, set your computer's clock to the correct date
#3731 [15:53] <Helloman892> GeorgFaust: Then, that's all I can think of.
#3732 [15:53] <Helloman892> GeorgFaust: Remind me, can you login?
#3733 [15:54] <Questioner> oke i check the clock
#3734 [15:54] <Kealper> Questioner: because even if the incorrect date is not what is causing your error, it's bound to be causing all sorts of other errors with websites
#3735 [15:54] <GeorgFaust> I can login on the website and via tekkit launcher
#3736 [15:54] <Questioner> and yes i am sure that i running on 1.3.1
#3737 [15:54] <Helloman892> Oh, I see.
#3738 [15:54] <Helloman892> What is your anti-virus GeorgFaust?
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#3740 [15:55] <Reeferuk> Hello, i really need some help, whenever i try to update minecraft, i get stuck at Downloading packages, i try deleting .minecraft folder but that doesnt work.
#3741 [15:55] <GeorgFaust> Avira Antivirus 2012 Premium
#3742 [15:55] <Questioner> nothing works
#3743 [15:55] <Questioner> ..
#3744 [15:55] <Helloman892> Ok.
#3745 [15:55] <Reeferuk> Please help me!
#3746 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Reeferuk - Are you running AVG
#3747 [15:55] <Helloman892> GeorgFaust: ...... I have no idea.
#3748 [15:55] <Reeferuk> Yes i am!
#3749 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Reeferuk - If so, disable the linkscanner module and try again
#3750 [15:55] <Kealper> Questioner: you have updated the date to the correct day on your computer?
#3751 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Reeferuk - AVG's been known to block minecraft
#3752 [15:55] <Questioner> yes
#3753 [15:55] <Reeferuk> I will try that, thank you so much!
#3754 [15:55] <GeorgFaust> Thanks for trying... So I'll continue with trekkit
#3755 [15:55] <Questioner> 1-8-2012
#3756 [15:55] <Questioner> and time is updated
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#3758 [15:56] <Kealper> Questioner: hmm... do you have any antivirus software installed?
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#3760 [15:56] <Questioner> yes i disable it now thanks for surgestion
#3761 [15:56] <Kealper> Questioner: and more importantly: has Minecraft ever worked before?
#3762 [15:57] <Reeferuk> It worked, thank you so much!
#3763 [15:57] * GreyVulpine tips hat
#3763 [15:57] <Reeferuk> Have a great day!
#3764 [15:57] <Reeferuk> Have a great day!
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#3766 [16:02] * CrusaderDeleters [CrusaderDeleters@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3767 [16:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Guess what guys. c:
#3768 [16:03] <Helloman892> What?
#3769 [16:03] <CrusaderDeleters> I found a new bug: Mob spawners spin out of control.
#3770 [16:03] <Helloman892> Verrrry funny >.<
#3771 [16:03] * Henka [Henka@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3772 [16:03] <Henka> Hi everybody
#3773 [16:03] <Helloman892> Hiya,
#3774 [16:03] <Helloman892> what's up?
#3775 [16:04] <Henka> i have a "connection reset" message in my launcher when i try to updte
#3776 [16:04] <Helloman892> Hmmm...
#3777 [16:04] <Henka> that's why i'm here :)
#3778 [16:04] <Helloman892> [/someonehelp]
#3779 [16:04] <Questioner> the problem is my firewall
#3780 [16:04] <Questioner> but i can join a massive server
#3781 [16:04] <Questioner> where other people can
#3782 [16:05] <Helloman892> [/arrrghsomeonepleasepleasehelp]
#3783 [16:05] <Questioner> how is that posible
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#3785 [16:05] <Yuttl> When forwarding the port, do I forward the IP to my IPv4 adress or the default gateway?
#3786 [16:05] <Helloman892> Questioner: The problem is that your server is fudged.
#3787 [16:05] <CrusaderDeleters> Question: Problem is, you don't download stuff when entering a server
#3788 [16:05] <Questioner> ??
#3789 [16:05] <Minecraft_> hi i need help i was playing mc after i updated it gives me blescreen now
#3790 [16:05] <Helloman892> IPv4, I believe.
#3791 [16:05] <Yuttl> Right, that's what I thought . . . hmm
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#3793 [16:05] <Henka> actually, is there any minecraft god able to help ? :)
#3794 [16:06] <Questioner> Yuttl ??
#3795 [16:06] * Reeferuk [Reeferuk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3796 [16:06] <Yuttl> Hey questioner, can you connect to 71.84.246.68?
#3797 [16:06] <Helloman892> [/ohgodonly2ofussomeonelikeBoreeasorElystushelp]
#3798 [16:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Questioner: Can you disable your anti-virus program and your firewall when downloading minecraft?
#3799 [16:06] <Reeferuk> Hello, Im back again! i have another problem :D
#3800 [16:06] <Minecraft_> i was playing mc after now that i updated it gives me bluescreen please help me out
#3801 [16:06] <Questioner> yes
#3802 [16:06] <Reeferuk> I have no sound in minecraft 1.3.1 please help!
#3803 [16:07] <Yuttl> Yes you can?
#3804 [16:07] <Questioner> yes i can
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#3806 [16:07] <Questioner> and i am joined
#3807 [16:07] <Yuttl> do it
#3808 [16:07] <Questioner> there is no problem yet
#3809 [16:07] <Reeferuk> I have no sound in minecraft 1.3.1 please help me!
#3810 [16:07] <Minecraft_> i was playing mc after now that i updated it gives me bluescreen please help me out help !!
#3811 [16:07] <Henka> So, no one can tell me why i can't update ?
#3812 [16:07] <Helloman892> Reeferuk: Have you checked your sound settings? Also, we can red T_T
#3813 [16:07] <Reeferuk> Henka you have AVG?
#3814 [16:07] <Helloman892> read*
#3815 [16:07] <Questioner> and disconnectd
#3816 [16:07] * SgtTraveler|afk [SgtTraveler|afk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3817 [16:07] <Henka> Reeferuk: yes
#3818 [16:07] <Minecraft_> i was playing mc after now that i updated it gives me bluescreen please help me out Why no one HELP
#3819 [16:07] <Reeferuk> Disable linkscanner then try
#3820 [16:07] <Helloman892> Henka: Disable LinkSearcher.
#3821 [16:08] <Helloman892> Scanner*
#3822 [16:08] <Yuttl> Right so others can connect to my server but you friend can't, what does he have to do it fix it?
#3823 [16:08] <Questioner> yuttl i am disconnected
#3824 [16:08] <Reeferuk> It works for me
#3825 [16:08] <Reeferuk> And yes i check my sound setting they at full
#3826 [16:08] <Reeferuk> Any other ideas?
#3827 [16:08] <Helloman892> Alright.
#3828 [16:08] <Helloman892> No.
#3829 [16:08] <Reeferuk> I have no sound in minecraft 1.3.1 please help! its not the settings
#3830 [16:08] <Questioner> yuttl with the same error
#3831 [16:08] <Minecraft_> i was playing mc after now that i updated it gives me bluescreen please help me out
#3832 [16:08] <Minecraft_> i was playing mc after now that i updated it gives me bluescreen please help me out
#3833 [16:08] <Minecraft_> i was playing mc after now that i updated it gives me bluescreen please help me out
#3834 [16:09] * Guitarguy1133 [Guitarguy1133@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3835 [16:09] <Helloman892> ??> Reeferuk dont/spam
#3836 [16:09] <VoxelHead> Reeferuk: (dont/spam) We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#3837 [16:09] <Reeferuk> I need help though!
#3838 [16:09] <Helloman892> ??>> Minecraft_ dont/spam
#3839 [16:09] <Minecraft_> then help me out please
#3840 [16:09] <Reeferuk> I cant play with no sound!
#3841 [16:09] <Helloman892> Reeferuk: ...Yus you can.
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#3843 [16:09] <Reeferuk> I used to use F3+S but it doesnt work now
#3844 [16:09] <Helloman892> Minecraft_ : No idea.
#3845 [16:09] <Minecraft_> ok
#3846 [16:09] <Minecraft_> ty
#3847 [16:10] <Minecraft_> the old irc was better it more skilled people
#3848 [16:10] <Henka> Helloman892: Reeferuk didn't change anything, stll freezed at "retreiving minecraft.jar 14%" :)
#3849 [16:10] <Questioner> yuttl I disconnected with the same error as in the other serverse
#3850 [16:10] <Minecraft_> had*
#3851 [16:10] <Questioner> servers*
#3852 [16:10] <Helloman892> Minecraft_: I'm the only one here T_T
#3853 [16:10] <Reeferuk> Try disabling all of AVG then try
#3854 [16:10] <CrusaderDeleters> This is the old irc.
#3855 [16:10] <Henka> ok
#3856 [16:10] <Reeferuk> I have no sound in minecraft 1.3.1 please help!
#3857 [16:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Reeferuk
#3858 [16:10] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.3 is very very VERY new
#3859 [16:10] <Reeferuk> It should have sound though...
#3860 [16:10] <CrusaderDeleters> It's hard for most people to get an accurate bug fix on new content
#3861 [16:11] <Minecraft_> o nice one Hello man
#3862 [16:11] <Reeferuk> F3+S doesnt work now
#3863 [16:11] <CrusaderDeleters> reload the client
#3864 [16:11] <Helloman892> Want experianced people? I'll just get Elystus or Boreeas then. Woops, just pinged 'em.
#3865 [16:11] <Elystus> I heard my name >_>
#3866 [16:11] <Helloman892> Sorry guys.
#3867 [16:11] <Helloman892> Well, actually, no.
#3868 [16:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Ely, everyone is whining about bugs in 1.3
#3869 [16:12] <Elystus> ??>> Reeferuk win/reinst
#3870 [16:12] <Helloman892> ^
#3871 [16:12] <Minecraft_> the other people would of asked questions like what is retine in blescreen and stuff not like this but what ever
#3872 [16:12] <Elystus> CrusaderDeleters: I know, theres been about 100 threads on the forums about it already
#3873 [16:12] <Elystus> probably more than that.
#3874 [16:12] <Helloman892> So irritating...
#3875 [16:12] <CrusaderDeleters> I told them all I know.
#3876 [16:12] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.3 is new, bound to be bugs
#3877 [16:12] <Reeferuk> I only just updated minecraft!
#3878 [16:12] <Helloman892> Now, this is why I never think of applying for moderator on the forums.
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#3880 [16:13] <Reeferuk> WHY U NO HELP ME?!
#3881 [16:13] <hyubs> when i open my multiplayer server
#3882 [16:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Uh...
#3883 [16:13] <Helloman892> Reeferuk! WE CAN'T HELP YOU! (very well)
#3884 [16:13] <Boreeas> Helloman892: I like how you realise that you will ping us and still send that line
#3885 [16:13] <hyubs> it says end of stream
#3886 [16:13] <CrusaderDeleters> I can place logs sideways?!
#3887 [16:13] <Reeferuk> The newsound folder is there, so its not that!
#3888 [16:13] <Elystus> Reeferuk: DO what voxelhead said.
#3889 [16:13] <hyubs> why is that
#3890 [16:13] <Helloman892> Yes. So do I.
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#3892 [16:14] <Helloman892> I like alot of things about me.
#3893 [16:14] <Guest> hi all, anyone have java error after the update?
#3894 [16:14] <Elystus> Reeferuk: I already gave you a potential solution. Follow the directions VoxelHead gave you.
#3895 [16:14] <Helloman892> Anyways, we need all the help we can get. These guys keep bitching on about 1.3.1.
#3896 [16:14] <Reeferuk> FUCK THIS SHIT
#3897 [16:14] <Reeferuk> FUCK THIS SHIT
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#3899 [16:14] <Helloman892> [/excusemyFrench]
#3900 [16:14] <hyubs> always end of stream in my multi server
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#3902 [16:15] <hyubs> cant open it anymore :(
#3903 [16:15] <Helloman892> Guest: We know about this.
#3904 [16:15] <Kealper> oh, i know what's missing in here
#3905 [16:15] <Helloman892> hyubs: We know this too,
#3906 [16:15] <Tony> sorry, just joined, any reason why we can't connect to multiplayer?
#3907 [16:15] <Helloman892> Ah.
#3908 [16:15] <hyubs> oh well i deleted my server thou
#3909 [16:15] <Helloman892> Kealper: Any reason?
#3910 [16:15] <hyubs> -.-
#3911 [16:15] * Kealper goes back to being the channel's silent overwatch
#3911 [16:15] <CrusaderDeleters> What does it exactly say tony?
#3912 [16:15] <Helloman892> Tony: 1.3.1, correct?
#3913 [16:16] <Kealper> Helloman892: kicks on bad words/spam
#3914 [16:16] <hyubs> so we cant create a new server atm?
#3915 [16:16] <Tony> me and my friends had mutiplayer running threw himatchi, after the update we were unable too
#3916 [16:16] <Kealper> well, mutes for 10 seconds on spam
#3917 [16:16] <Helloman892> Oh, yeah. By the way, don't kick me for bit*hing about bit*ching.
#3918 [16:16] <Boreeas> Tony: Did you update the server already?
#3919 [16:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Tony: Did they update the server to 1.3, too?
#3920 [16:16] <Helloman892> Lol
#3921 [16:16] <Tony> yes
#3922 [16:16] <hyubs> i did update it
#3923 [16:16] <Henka> Helloman892: without avg, it's fine, thanks a lot :)
#3924 [16:16] <Kealper> Helloman892: doesn't kick for minor words, only ones that would be quite offensive
#3925 [16:16] <Helloman892> Np.
#3926 [16:17] <Helloman892> Kealper: K.
#3927 [16:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Tony: Whats the exact error that it says?
#3928 [16:17] <Henka> bye all, i'll com back (i'm sure i will) !!!
#3929 [16:17] <Helloman892> ??>> tony fubar/hamachi
#3930 [16:17] <hyubs> "end of stream"
#3931 [16:17] <hyubs> lol
#3932 [16:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Hamachi sucks. Just try port-forwarding. A nice site (portforward.com) is really helpful to use.
#3933 [16:18] <Helloman892> Yes.
#3934 [16:18] <Helloman892> True that.
#3935 [16:18] <Tony> e tried port fowarding and could not figure it out
#3936 [16:18] <Tony> i think we spent a total of 16 hours on it XD
#3937 [16:19] <hyubs> so the problem is on hamachi?
#3938 [16:19] <hyubs> not on the new update?
#3939 [16:19] <Helloman892> Hey, can someone add a factoid about AVG?
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#3941 [16:19] <Helloman892> hyubs: No.
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#3943 [16:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Esper.net lost connection with me.
#3944 [16:19] <hyubs> coz my server i delete it
#3945 [16:19] <Guest> error i am getting is internal exception: java.net.socketexception. connection reset
#3946 [16:19] <CrusaderDeleters> The other irc's stayed. :o
#3947 [16:19] <hyubs> and then i tried to create a new 1
#3948 [16:19] <hyubs> and i cant play it too
#3949 [16:20] <Helloman892> Guest: You're trying to play on a 1.2.5 server with 1.3.1.
#3950 [16:20] <Guest> damn, thanks Hell
#3951 [16:20] * Helloman892 winces
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#3952 [16:20] <Helloman892> I prefer to be called 'Helloman', if you don't mind.
#3953 [16:20] <Guest> glad i wasnt too far along
#3954 [16:21] <hyubs> so how will it work?
#3955 [16:21] <Guest> lol, sorry
#3956 [16:21] <Guest> thanks Helloman
#3957 [16:21] <Helloman892> No probs.
#3958 [16:21] <hyubs> download new mc server?
#3959 [16:21] <Minecraft_> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 01/08/12 22:20 - Minecraft Version: 1.3.1 - Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) Clien
#3960 [16:21] <Helloman892> hyubs: I honestly have no idea.
#3961 [16:21] <bela141> Whenever I go to a multiplayer server it says connection lost Internal exception:java.net.SocketException. connection reset
#3962 [16:21] <Boreeas> I shall call you "Hellboy"
#3963 [16:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecraft_: www.pastebin.com
#3964 [16:21] <hyubs> nvm
#3965 [16:21] <Minecraft_> kk
#3966 [16:22] <Elystus> ?? pastebin
#3967 [16:22] <Helloman892> ??> Minecraft_ dont/spam
#3968 [16:22] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#3969 [16:22] <Tony> hey helloman, i did the whole ip adress thing and opened the ports for minecraft, still unable to play, any suggestions?
#3970 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_: (dont/spam) We can hear you just fine, and your text does not disappear automagically. Please do not spam the same thing over and over again.
#3971 [16:22] <Helloman892> Fail
#3972 [16:22] <Helloman892> ??> Minecraft_ dont/flood
#3973 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_: (dont/flood) Please do not paste large globs of text into the IRC channel. This is called 'flooding' and is considered _very_ rude.
#3974 [16:22] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_: (dont/flood) If you have an error log or other information to share that is more then one or two lines, use pastebin.com. see pastebin for more information.
#3975 [16:22] <Boreeas> Tony: Check your firewall maybe
#3976 [16:22] <Helloman892> Yes, ^
#3977 [16:22] <Minecraft_> ok
#3978 [16:23] <bela141> Whenever I go to a multiplayer server it says connection lost Internal exception:java.net.SocketException. connection reset
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#3980 [16:23] <Helloman892> bela141: 1.3.1 on a 1.2.5 server...
#3981 [16:23] * Chizuna [Chizuna@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3982 [16:23] <Minecraft_> Please Some One Help Me Out : http://pastebin.com/UDS75BB3 Error Log
#3983 [16:23] <Helloman892> [/ohmygodthisisgettingboring]
#3984 [16:23] <Chizuna> Hello
#3985 [16:23] <derpidoo> well reading the top i see that we cant get help downgrading
#3986 [16:24] <derpidoo> and thats all i want to do....
#3987 [16:24] <Helloman892> Minecraft_: Update your video card drivers.
#3988 [16:24] <Helloman892> ??> Minecraft_ win/dxdiag
#3989 [16:24] <Minecraft_> AuBot i was playing minecraft today before the update
#3990 [16:24] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3991 [16:24] <VoxelHead> Minecraft_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3992 [16:24] <Helloman892> AuBot is a bot.
#3993 [16:24] <Chizuna> I am a player who bought Minecraft when it came out a long time ago. I just returned to it, and was wondering how to set up a public server, after downloading the Minecraft_Server application. Does anyone know and/or can help me with this?
#3994 [16:24] <Helloman892> As is VoxelHead.
#3995 [16:24] <derpidoo> is there a way we can have somone give a link to 1.2.5 bin?
#3996 [16:25] <Helloman892> Chizuna: It's a long process.
#3997 [16:25] <Minecraft_> But i have Played mc Today
#3998 [16:25] <Chizuna> How long?
#3999 [16:25] <derpidoo> because it kinda sucks to be unable to play on servers
#4000 [16:25] <Helloman892> Very.
#4001 [16:25] <Boreeas> Chizuna: Launch the server executable. If you want to play with people outside your local network, make sure to forward your ports
#4002 [16:25] <Chizuna> Helloman892: Estimate? :)
#4003 [16:25] <Helloman892> ?? distribution
#4004 [16:25] <Boreeas> That's essentially all you have to do
#4005 [16:25] <VoxelHead> distribution: Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#4006 [16:25] <VoxelHead> distribution: This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#4007 [16:25] <Helloman892> Chizuna: A. Very. Long. Time.
#4008 [16:25] <bela141> Can a 1.2.5 server become a 1.3.1 server if you update it? >.>
#4009 [16:25] <Kealper> Minecraft_: was 1.3 working for you earlier or was that 1.2.5 that you were playing earlier?
#4010 [16:25] <Chizuna> Boreeas: I have no idea what much of that means ;) I am really bad with these things.
#4011 [16:25] <Helloman892> possibly.
#4012 [16:26] <derpidoo> voxel is that directed at me?
#4013 [16:26] <Kealper> bela141: yes, but the owner of the server must update it
#4014 [16:26] <Minecraft_> 1.2.5 was working not 1.3.1
#4015 [16:26] <Helloman892> Yes,
#4016 [16:26] <Chizuna> I wish to make the server publicly available.
#4017 [16:26] <Helloman892> And as i said: VoxelHead is a bot.
#4018 [16:26] <Chizuna> On the Internet
#4019 [16:26] <bela141> Ok, Thanks
#4020 [16:26] <derpidoo> ahh i see
#4021 [16:26] <Kealper> Minecraft_: hmm... interesting...
#4022 [16:26] <Boreeas> Chizuna: Then I recommend that you refrain from hosting a server, maintenance usually involves a lot of technical knowledge
#4023 [16:26] <Minecraft_> You Think I was LIKE WHy you no WORK
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#4025 [16:26] <Helloman892> Boreeas: Don't you know it.
#4026 [16:26] <Chizuna> Borreas: I still wish to do this, though.
#4027 [16:27] <Owner> anyone having issues unbanning people?
#4028 [16:27] <Helloman892> Owner: None.
#4029 [16:27] <Owner> I banned and now cant unban
#4030 [16:27] <Helloman892> It's '/pardon'.
#4031 [16:27] <derpidoo> Can someone help me real quick?
#4032 [16:27] <Boreeas> Chizuna: You may however want to take a look at commercial hosters which take a lot of that from you, and will usually give you an administation panel
#4033 [16:27] <Helloman892> The command to unban me is, for example, '/pardon Helloman892'.
#4034 [16:27] <Helloman892> Owner: ^
#4035 [16:27] <Boreeas> Chizuna: If you insist on hosting from home, take a look at http://portforward.com
#4036 [16:27] <Chizuna> Boreeas: That is something which costs money, though. Is it not?
#4037 [16:28] <Boreeas> Of course, hosting is rarely free
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#4039 [16:28] <Chizuna> Boreeas: Alright. I do not know what to do with the Port Forwarding though. I am sure I can find a Guide "How-To" there, but to what end?
#4040 [16:29] <Owner> Helloman892: thanks!
#4041 [16:29] <Helloman892> No problem.
#4042 [16:29] <Helloman892> No problem.
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#4044 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> Port forwarding is how you allow people on the internet to gain access to a service you offer behind your router.
#4045 [16:29] <DopeGhoti> so, to the end of providing a service to the internet?
#4046 [16:29] <Chizuna> Does that not allow them access to the entirety of my computer, then?
#4047 [16:29] <Boreeas> Chizuna: Your router blocks connection from the outside. Port forwarding tells your router to forward connections to a specific portnumber to a computer in a network to allow it to be handled
#4048 [16:29] <CrusaderDeleters> No.
#4049 [16:30] <Chizuna> Boreeas: I understand as much. Is this needed for people to connect to a Minecraft server?
#4050 [16:30] <Boreeas> Chizuna: Port forwarding only forwards traffic on that port. As long as you limit it to the minecraft port (65565 by default), you will be fine
#4051 [16:30] <Boreeas> Yes, it is needed, otherwise your router will block incoming connections
#4052 [16:30] <zen> 25565 bores
#4053 [16:30] <DopeGhoti> It's needed to connect to _any_ server behind NAT
#4054 [16:30] <Boreeas> Er, yes, sorry
#4055 [16:31] <derpidoo> Would someone be able to help me real quick??
#4056 [16:31] <Chizuna> Boreeas: Alright. Basically I should just forward the 25565 Port, then?
#4057 [16:31] <Boreeas> Yes
#4058 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> ??> derpidoo telepathy
#4059 [16:31] <VoxelHead> derpidoo: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#4060 [16:31] <Chizuna> Boreeas: And then a server will be magically created? ;-)
#4061 [16:31] <Boreeas> Chizuna: You will still need to run the server executable
#4062 [16:31] <derpidoo> Is there a legal way i can install the 1.2.5 bin? because im unable to play on servers
#4063 [16:31] <DopeGhoti> ??> Chizuna smp/serversetup
#4064 [16:31] <VoxelHead> Chizuna: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#4065 [16:31] <VoxelHead> Chizuna: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#4066 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 5
#4067 [16:32] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 5 = We cannot and will not help you downgrade. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Wed Aug 01 11:10:51 MST 2012 ]
#4068 [16:32] <Chizuna> What is Smp/serversetup? I can go to that wiki there. Are those 2 the same thing?
#4069 [16:32] <derpidoo> that honestly makes no sense why there is a problem wiht that aslong as it is being done legaly...
#4070 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> Chizuna: one is a keyword which gives you a link to the other.
#4071 [16:32] <DopeGhoti> ??> derpidoo distribution
#4072 [16:32] <VoxelHead> derpidoo: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#4073 [16:33] <Chizuna> Hmm, I see.
#4074 [16:33] <VoxelHead> derpidoo: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#4075 [16:33] <Boreeas> derpidoo: Without a backup, there is no legal way to downgrade
#4076 [16:33] <CosmicVoyager> I need link to 1.2.5 client please
#4077 [16:33] <bela141> If you say not to download 1.3.1 will you still have the option to download it later?
#4078 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> CosmicVoyager: No.
#4079 [16:33] <DopeGhoti> bela141: Yes.
#4080 [16:33] <derpidoo> why wouldnt they just put it as another download on minecraft.net?
#4081 [16:33] <Helloman892> ??> CosmicVoyager distribution
#4082 [16:33] <VoxelHead> CosmicVoyager: (distribution) Mojang specifications makes quite clear what the rules are for redistributing the client and launcher: Do Not Distribute.
#4083 [16:33] <VoxelHead> CosmicVoyager: (distribution) This is not up for discussion, and continued posting or requesting of links other than those at minecraft.net will be met with reprisals up to and including banishment from #MineCraftHelp. You have been warned.
#4084 [16:33] <bela141> Ok. Thanks
#4085 [16:33] <Helloman892> derpidoo: Because it's outdated
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#4087 [16:34] <derpidoo> thats the point...there are so many other things that you need it for...
#4088 [16:34] <xNatasha> I did the update and now i cant play any servers please help
#4089 [16:34] <Boreeas> derpidoo: Keep a backup the next time
#4090 [16:34] <Chizuna> Boreeas: If I follow the link you gave me to the Minecraftwiki.net with Setting up a server, I will be able to make a public server, free of charge, right?
#4091 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> ??> xNatasha smp/recentupdate
#4092 [16:34] <VoxelHead> xNatasha: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#4093 [16:34] <Helloman892> Mojang are a little stupid when it comes to that.
#4094 [16:34] <VoxelHead> xNatasha: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#4095 [16:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Chizuna: All server creations are free of charge.
#4096 [16:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Chizuna: All server creations are free of charge.
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#4098 [16:34] <Boreeas> Chizuna: You will, yes. Make sure to also follow the steps under "OPtional steps"
#4099 [16:34] <DopeGhoti> Chizuna: well, not free; you will need to pay for your computer, your internet service, and electricity.
#4100 [16:35] <Elystus> Soo much VoxelHead ._.
#4101 [16:35] <xNatasha> oh ok so its because the owners of the servers havent updated the severe yet??
#4102 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> Elystus: /me points to the 'F' in 'FAQ'.
#4103 [16:35] <Chizuna> DopeGhoti: Ofcourse! :)
#4104 [16:35] <Boreeas> xNatasha: Exactly
#4105 [16:35] <derpidoo> yes but also natasha without bukkit being updated you cant have plugins right?
#4106 [16:35] <Chizuna> Boreeas: Thank you very much for the help, I will try and see if the tutorial works for me. Have a nice day @Everyone
#4107 [16:35] <xNatasha> oh ok thank you very much do you know where i could find a server that has the update done
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#4109 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> cheers, Chizuna
#4110 [16:35] <TheHenrikooo> Hello!
#4111 [16:35] <Boreeas> Good luck
#4112 [16:35] <DopeGhoti> ??> xNatasha smp/servers
#4113 [16:35] <VoxelHead> xNatasha: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#4114 [16:35] <VoxelHead> xNatasha: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#4115 [16:36] <TheHenrikooo> I need some help guys! :D
#4116 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> TheHenrikooo: care to be more specific?
#4117 [16:36] <xNatasha> okay thank you have nice day
#4118 [16:36] <DopeGhoti> xNatasha: cheers
#4119 [16:36] <TheHenrikooo> I've just updated minecraft to 1.3.5 but I cannot connect to ANY server... Feels a bit lame?
#4120 [16:37] <derpidoo> 1.3.5? or 1.2.5?
#4121 [16:37] <TheHenrikooo> 1.3.5, positive.
#4122 [16:37] <Boreeas> ??> TheHenrikooo smp/recentupdate
#4123 [16:37] <VoxelHead> TheHenrikooo: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#4124 [16:37] <VoxelHead> TheHenrikooo: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
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#4126 [16:37] <Boreeas> TheHenrikooo: I'm pretty sure you mean 1.3.1
#4127 [16:37] <derpidoo> yeah...
#4128 [16:37] <TheHenrikooo> Sorry, meant 1.3.1 ;)
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#4130 [16:38] <TheHenrikooo> But it's my own server, can i update it somehow? my friends who did'nt update managed to log in.
#4131 [16:38] <derpidoo> can someone tell me if there is a way to find a backup of the bin folder in windows xp?
#4132 [16:38] <DopeGhoti> to update your server, just download the server .jar and copy it over the old one, and restart the server
#4133 [16:38] <Boreeas> TheHenrikooo: Do you use bukkit?
#4134 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> ??> derpidoo win/.minecraft
#4135 [16:39] <VoxelHead> derpidoo: (win/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#4136 [16:39] <TheHenrikooo> I use the original server ;)
#4137 [16:39] <TheHenrikooo> I use the original server ;)
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#4139 [16:39] <kingdevyn> can somebody help me....... when im playing the game keeps freezing
#4140 [16:39] <Boreeas> Then do what DopeGhoti told you :P
#4141 [16:39] <derpidoo> wait win+r?
#4142 [16:39] <TheHenrikooo> Okay, I'll try that! :D
#4143 [16:39] <DopeGhoti> ??> derpidoo win/key
#4144 [16:39] <VoxelHead> derpidoo: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#4145 [16:39] <TheHenrikooo> Thanks guys :)
#4146 [16:39] <derpidoo> oh windows key... i see
#4147 [16:39] <Boreeas> No problem. Have fun
#4148 [16:39] <Elystus> Anyone know what the program is that downgrades minecraft?
#4149 [16:40] <Boreeas> MCNostalgia?
#4150 [16:40] <Boreeas> Not updated yet, I think.
#4151 [16:40] <Elystus> Thats it! thanks! :)
#4152 [16:40] <Elystus> Oh, damn...
#4153 [16:40] <derpidoo> elystus everyone wants it but no one has it because its not legal...
#4154 [16:40] <TheHenrikooo> hold on, I have Windows?
#4155 [16:40] <Insuruto> Ok here's my problem, I have Windows 7 32-bit and Jave 32-bit. I cant allocate more than Xmx1024 Xms512 memory and I have 4gb total memory to use. Minecraft freezes up in singleplayer and multiplayer after a while as I'm flying in creative mode loading chunks.
#4156 [16:41] <Elystus> derpidoo: >_> MCNostalgia is legal, why do you think I asked about it specifically.
#4157 [16:41] <derpidoo> huh?
#4158 [16:41] <Boreeas> MCNostalgia is legal, yes.
#4159 [16:41] <Helloman892> It's very legal.
#4160 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> mcnostalgia does not redistribute Mojang's code
#4161 [16:41] <clarjon1> derpidoo: MCNostalgia is safe to use, it has Notch's "Meh whatever" of approval.
#4162 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> it is therefore legal and within the scope of MC TOS
#4163 [16:41] <Insuruto> tMy setup is as follows. Intel Core i3 quad 3.2ghz processor, 1TB HD, 2 x 2gb ddr3 1333htz memory, Geforce GTX460
#4164 [16:42] <Elystus> Oh they updated it an hour ago.
#4165 [16:42] <Boreeas> Ah, neat
#4166 [16:42] <TheHenrikooo> I still need help guys :)
#4167 [16:43] <Boreeas> TheHenrikooo: The jar runs on any operating system
#4168 [16:43] <derpidoo> umm cna someone explain what mcnostalgia does?
#4169 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> TheHenrikooo: 1> stop server. 2> download new server .jar. 3> run new server .jar 4> there is no 4
#4170 [16:43] <DopeGhoti> derpidoo: is uses a known set of differences to patch the current versions into old versions
#4171 [16:43] <Insuruto> Im have 8gb memory on the way, but I fear the problem will persist until I go out and buy windows 64bit just so i can dl java 64 bit
#4172 [16:43] <derpidoo> ahh ok thanks dopeghot
#4173 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> Insuruto: Are you certain it's a RAM issue you're having?
#4174 [16:44] <clarjon1> Insuruto: ehh you'll wanna wait a couple months before buying windows
#4175 [16:44] <clarjon1> Insuruto: windows 8 is soon around the corner
#4176 [16:44] <DopeGhoti> clarjon1: windows 8 is a frelling catastrophe and has no business being positioned as a desktop OS.
#4177 [16:45] <Insuruto> Dopeghoti, in the past it wouldnt freeze up it would take me to the out of memory screen in minecraft
#4178 [16:45] <clarjon1> DopeGhoti: That may be so, but drivers and support will be fast moving towards it due to MS' contracts.
#4179 [16:45] <clarjon1> Insuruto: what's the speed of your HDD connection?
#4180 [16:45] <DopeGhoti> clarjon1: yeah, seeing is believing.
#4181 [16:45] <Insuruto> not sure clarjon
#4182 [16:46] <DopeGhoti> Insuruto: are you running any mods, texture packs, etc.?
#4183 [16:46] <Insuruto> dopeghoti no mods no texture packs, at one time however i tried optifine and the same problem
#4184 [16:46] <Insuruto> dopeghoti it only happens when my render distance is set to normal and up
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#4187 [16:49] <DopeGhoti> Insuruto: sounds more like a GPU issue than a RAM one
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#4189 [16:50] <Insuruto_> is there a program that can help diagnose what could be the problem?
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#4191 [16:53] <xNatasha> I need help finding a 1.3.1 servers
#4192 [16:54] <xNatasha> Help me out here please
#4193 [16:54] <Helloman892> ??> xNatasha smp/servers
#4194 [16:54] <VoxelHead> xNatasha: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#4195 [16:54] <VoxelHead> xNatasha: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#4196 [16:54] <xNatasha> Are they 1.3.1 servers??
#4197 [16:54] <Smanly> Yes
#4198 [16:54] <Helloman892> Try them.
#4199 [16:54] <TheHenrikooo> That didn't work. I have to extract the files and shit. Wtf am I retarded, this seems so complicated
#4200 [16:54] <matagin> yes
#4201 [16:54] <matagin> i have a 1.3.1 server
#4202 [16:55] <xNatasha> okay ill look for one then
#4203 [16:55] <Smanly> Finding a decent 1.3 server will be very hard seeing as bukkit wont update for a while.
#4204 [16:56] <xNatasha> true
#4205 [16:57] <xNatasha> does anyone here have a 1.3.1 server??
#4206 [16:58] <derpidoo> ahh finally figured out how to downgrade....
#4207 [16:58] <TheHenrikooo> Wow, I get awesome response
#4208 [16:58] <derpidoo> mcnostalgia ftw!
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#4210 [17:01] <loco> hey
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#4212 [17:02] <Thaorn> Hi everybody !
#4213 [17:02] <loco> hey man
#4214 [17:02] <Thaorn> I'm looking for help :P
#4215 [17:02] <loco> me 2 lol
#4216 [17:03] <Thaorn> But i've to begin to say i'm french, so my english is ... you see ^^
#4217 [17:03] <Helloman892> How can I help you, fine gentlemen?
#4218 [17:03] <loco> wat is ur prob?
#4219 [17:03] <loco> ok cool let him go first
#4220 [17:03] <TheHenrikooo> Dudes, I've been here for a while
#4221 [17:03] <Helloman892> TheHenrikooo: Your problem is apparantly unfixable,
#4222 [17:04] <TheHenrikooo> FUCK ME
#4223 [17:04] * AuBot kicked TheHenrikooo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: heHenrikooo :Please keep it civil.)
#4224 [17:04] <loco> ok well i am using tunngle 2 lan or direct connect
#4225 [17:04] <Helloman892> Thaorn: I am semi-fluent in French :)
#4226 [17:04] <loco> but it dont wrk
#4227 [17:04] <Helloman892> loco: Continue.
#4228 [17:04] <Helloman892> Errors?
#4229 [17:04] <loco> cant see his server
#4230 [17:04] <Helloman892> What VPN software are you using?
#4231 [17:05] <loco> tunngle
#4232 [17:05] <Helloman892> You must be on the same network, I'm afraid.
#4233 [17:05] <Thaorn> Cool Helloman ! Another one have troubles with the "Can't connect minecraft.net" on the launcher?
#4234 [17:05] <Helloman892> As in, LOCAL network.
#4235 [17:05] <Helloman892> Thaorn: Yes.
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#4237 [17:05] <loco> not me
#4238 [17:05] <Helloman892> I can fix that one, in most cases.
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#4240 [17:06] <Helloman892> Thaorn: What is your version of Java??
#4241 [17:06] <Thaorn> I check it
#4242 [17:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Damn, henry already lest. :s
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#4244 [17:06] <CrusaderDeleters> left*
#4245 [17:06] <Thaorn> I'm using build 1.7.0_03-b05
#4246 [17:06] <Helloman892> That's your problem.
#4247 [17:07] <chamedfolife> i do i upcate my server
#4248 [17:07] <Oxymoron> I'm having trouble playing Minecraft Classic.
#4249 [17:07] <Helloman892> !topic 4
#4250 [17:07] <Helloman892> Fail
#4251 [17:07] <chamedfolife> how do i
#4252 [17:07] <Helloman892> Anyways, Oxymoron.
#4253 [17:07] <Helloman892> ?? classic
#4254 [17:07] <VoxelHead> classic: Minecraft Classic is a severly outdated, archaic, unsupported version of Minecraft. It can be played for free here: http://www.minecraft.net/classic/play
#4255 [17:07] <VoxelHead> classic: Keep in mind though, that neither we nor Mojang offer support for Minecraft Classic.
#4256 [17:08] <chamedfolife> multiplaer
#4257 [17:08] <Oxymoron> I know that it's oudated. I'm just having troubl getting it to worl.
#4258 [17:08] <Oxymoron> *work
#4259 [17:08] <Helloman892> Thaorn: Use Add/Remove Programs to delete your current version, then download build 1.6.0_33
#4260 [17:08] <Oxymoron> I
#4261 [17:08] <Helloman892> Oxymoron: READ GODDAMN!
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#4263 [17:08] <Oxymoron> I'm trying to play it online, I don't have it downloaded.
#4264 [17:08] <Helloman892> 'Keep in mind though, that neither we nor Mojang offer support for Minecraft Classic'
#4265 [17:08] <Thaorn> Helloman892: I have to downgrade Java? It works fine with 1.7 on Chrome with Java applet
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#4267 [17:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Oxy, you don't download classic. :C
#4268 [17:09] <Oxymoron> Fine then.
#4269 [17:09] <CrusaderDeleters> C:*
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#4271 [17:09] <Helloman892> Thaorn: Yes, it's an issue.
#4272 [17:09] * nila1998 [nila1998@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4273 [17:09] <Helloman892> A Notch's launcher fail.
#4274 [17:09] <mama112> hello guyz does anyone can help me with an account issue?
#4275 [17:09] <CrusaderDeleters> http://is.gd/G3zPKi
#4276 [17:09] <chamedfolife> how do i update the server i made to play on multiplayer
#4277 [17:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Go there, mama
#4278 [17:09] <Helloman892> !help
#4279 [17:10] <nila1998> i need help with update
#4280 [17:10] <Thaorn> Helloman892: I've Java 6u31 (x64) installed too, i've to uninstall java 7?
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#4283 [17:10] <mama112> since 2 days i cant Connect anymore to my Miencraft acc
#4284 [17:10] <Helloman892> Yes, Thaorn.
#4285 [17:10] <nova1104> Hello can someone help me with an issue?
#4286 [17:10] <Helloman892> 6u33 is the latest working version.
#4287 [17:10] <bubbleboy567> Hey guys I cant access minecraft at all
#4288 [17:10] <nila1998> !server
#4289 [17:10] <Helloman892> Arrrgh.
#4290 [17:10] <Thaorn> Helloman892: Wow, it's weird, it works some day ago... But I try it, thanks a lot !
#4291 [17:11] <nila1998> !reinstall
#4292 [17:11] <Helloman892> Too many people spam-attacking me with the same thing.
#4293 [17:11] <Helloman892> TIME TO TAKE A NAP.
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#4297 [17:11] <bubbleboy567> I keep getting an hs_err_pid error
#4298 [17:11] <nila1998> !reinstall
#4299 [17:11] <nova1104> I am having problems with my game crashing randomly.
#4300 [17:11] <locostev> so you can't use tunngle 4 lan?
#4301 [17:12] <mama112> Can somebody help me with a Account issue? i cant connect to my acc since 2 days
#4302 [17:12] <CrusaderDeleters> LAN servers? "Localhost" as the ip.
#4303 [17:12] <bubbleboy567> you guys are no help...
#4304 [17:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Bubble, there's too many people with too many problems
#4305 [17:12] <locostev> on tunngle or minecraft
#4306 [17:12] <locostev> ?
#4307 [17:12] <CrusaderDeleters> There's not enough of us to go around.
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#4309 [17:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Loco: Minecraft
#4310 [17:13] <locostev> k
#4311 [17:13] <bubbleboy567> minecraft...
#4312 [17:13] <bubbleboy567> minecraft...
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#4314 [17:13] <nova1104> My game keeps crashing randomly. can someone help me
#4315 [17:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, bubble, try to update your graphics card.
#4316 [17:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Navo: What exactly does it say?
#4317 [17:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Nova*
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#4319 [17:13] <bubbleboy567> How do I do that? Also, it says java runtime error...
#4320 [17:14] <bubbleboy567> But I reinstalled java a million times
#4321 [17:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Java ain't the problem.
#4322 [17:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Do you know what Gcard you have?
#4323 [17:14] <CrusaderDeleters> (graphics card)
#4324 [17:14] <bubbleboy567> How do I check?
#4325 [17:14] <nova1104> It doesnt say anything it just makes a file named hs_err_pid4128.txt
#4326 [17:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Nova: Try to update your graphics card.
#4327 [17:14] <bubbleboy567> ^Nova we might have the same problem.
#4328 [17:15] <nova1104> It is updated
#4329 [17:15] <CrusaderDeleters> You both do
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#4331 [17:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Could you both put the contents of the hs_err_pid inside www.pastebin.com?
#4332 [17:15] <locostev> what does connection refused mean?
#4333 [17:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Loco: The server doesn't exist.
#4334 [17:15] <locostev> k
#4335 [17:16] <nova1104> Ok 1 sec
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#4337 [17:17] <bubbleboy567> http://pastebin.com/2XEHegMQ
#4338 [17:17] <mama112> does anyone can help me with an account issue?
#4339 [17:17] <bubbleboy567> That`s the hr_ error file
#4340 [17:17] <nova1104> http://pastebin.com/TUdRH95V
#4341 [17:18] <bubbleboy567> Also, where do I find my graphics card?
#4342 [17:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Bubble: You do need to update your graphics card. Wait while I check out nova's problem.
#4343 [17:18] <bubbleboy567> Okay.
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#4345 [17:18] <locostev> the real nova?
#4346 [17:18] <locostev> jk prbly not him lol
#4347 [17:19] <nova1104> :D
#4348 [17:19] <nova1104> Im the original
#4349 [17:19] <CrusaderDeleters> And nova: I doubt you have an updated graphics card.
#4350 [17:19] <nova1104> I do
#4351 [17:19] <locostev> not paragonova
#4352 [17:19] <nova1104> I just updated
#4353 [17:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Try to reupdate it,t hen.
#4354 [17:19] <bubbleboy567> I`ll just search how to update it.
#4355 [17:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Bubble: windows key + r, dxdiag, hit yes
#4356 [17:20] <nova1104> Could it be the 12 threads that are making the problem?
#4357 [17:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope.
#4358 [17:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Hit the display tab near the top, and look for "name", bubble
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#4360 [17:21] <minecrafter1001> hello
#4361 [17:21] <bubbleboy567> |ATI Radeon Xpress 1250
#4362 [17:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright, one moment
#4363 [17:21] <nova1104> The only other update is a beta driver
#4364 [17:21] <minecrafter1001> i need help
#4365 [17:21] <bubbleboy567> @Minecrafter, wait your turn.
#4366 [17:22] <minecrafter1001> ok
#4367 [17:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Bubble, what is your operating system? (bit included)
#4368 [17:22] <bubbleboy567> one sec.
#4369 [17:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Not sure what the problem is, then, nova. :(
#4370 [17:23] <nova1104> :(
#4371 [17:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Try to reinstall minecraft, nova
#4372 [17:23] <nova1104> I have multiple times
#4373 [17:23] <mama112> reinst java?
#4374 [17:23] <CrusaderDeleters> try to reinstall the same driver, if you hadn't already
#4375 [17:23] <nova1104> Ok
#4376 [17:23] <bubbleboy567> 32 bit.
#4377 [17:23] <nova1104> I have also updated java multiple times
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#4379 [17:24] <fredde> hi
#4380 [17:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Downgrade to java 6. ;)
#4381 [17:24] <nova1104> Lol
#4382 [17:24] <nova1104> Ill see
#4383 [17:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Hello, freded
#4384 [17:24] <bubbleboy567> Me or Nova?
#4385 [17:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Nova
#4386 [17:24] <bubbleboy567> okay.
#4387 [17:24] <fredde> nova
#4388 [17:24] <nova1104> Yes
#4389 [17:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Bubble: windows 7?
#4390 [17:24] <bubbleboy567> Vista :/
#4391 [17:24] <fredde> yea
#4392 [17:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Mkai
#4393 [17:25] <Thaorn> Someone have the "Can't connect to Minecraft.net" trouble too?
#4394 [17:25] <fredde> but not vista
#4395 [17:25] <fredde> home premium
#4396 [17:25] <fredde> i have one q
#4397 [17:25] <minecrafter1001> fatal error (4)
#4398 [17:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Bubble: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/10-2_legacy_vista32-64_dd_ccc.exe
#4399 [17:25] <fredde> i cant conect to my bukkit minecraft server
#4400 [17:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Thaorn: I think you have a firewall.
#4401 [17:26] <CrusaderDeleters> fredde: Did you update to 1.3?
#4402 [17:26] <bubbleboy567> Nnooww iimm ttyyppiingng inin ddoouubbllee ....
#4403 [17:26] <fredde> y
#4404 [17:26] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.3 cannot connect to 1.2 servers.
#4405 [17:26] <CrusaderDeleters> bukkit did not update to 1.3 yet.
#4406 [17:26] <bubbleboy567> Nvm fixed.
#4407 [17:26] <Thaorn> CrusaderDeleters: Already try with Eset Smart Sec 5 with firefall disabled, and still doesn't work (but i can play and update on the website)
#4408 [17:26] <fredde> can i ubdate my server
#4409 [17:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Unfortunately, you will have no existing features that your current server has, if you update.
#4410 [17:27] <fredde> update*
#4411 [17:27] <fredde> okej
#4412 [17:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Thaorn: Eset Smart Sec 5?
#4413 [17:27] <fredde> you know the classic server on the minecraft.net site
#4414 [17:28] <fredde> ?
#4415 [17:28] <CrusaderDeleters> That is updated.
#4416 [17:28] <Thaorn> CrusaderDeleters: It's my antivirus, Eset Smart Security v5, (don't know if this information is important sorry)
#4417 [17:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh, it is important.
#4418 [17:28] <fredde> oh so that clasic server have like the new orb and ....
#4419 [17:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Thaorn: You could always get Microsoft Security Essentials.
#4420 [17:29] <Thaorn> CrusaderDeleters: Nope, I never download it ^^'
#4421 [17:29] <fredde> okay
#4422 [17:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Vanilla minecraft server has everything and works with minecraft 1.3.
#4423 [17:30] <fredde> good
#4424 [17:30] <CrusaderDeleters> It lacks the security though
#4425 [17:30] <fredde> thanks
#4426 [17:30] <fredde> :)
#4427 [17:30] <CrusaderDeleters> No problem.
#4428 [17:30] <minecrafter1001> i need help been here 10 minutes no answers...
#4429 [17:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecrafter: what was your problem again?
#4430 [17:30] <Thaorn> CrusaderDeleters: I don't think it's the firewall ^^'
#4431 [17:31] <minecrafter1001> im trying to update to 1.3 but fatal error (4) happens
#4432 [17:31] * CrusaderDeleters doesn't recognize fatal error 4.
#4432 [17:31] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm guessing that has to do with a firewall.
#4433 [17:31] <minecrafter1001> firewall off
#4434 [17:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Try to disable any and all firewalls on your computer temporarily.
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#4436 [17:31] <minecrafter1001> brb
#4437 [17:31] <CrusaderDeleters> Do you have AVG/Avast/Norton?
#4438 [17:31] <minecrafter1001> mcafee
#4439 [17:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Try to disable mcafee, too, to install minecraft.
#4440 [17:32] <CrusaderDeleters> You can put it back up when minecraft is done downloading
#4441 [17:32] <bubbleboy567> Crusader, do I want the express or custom package?
#4442 [17:32] <CrusaderDeleters> Go express
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#4445 [17:33] <minecrafter1001> news wont update in launcher
#4446 [17:34] <minecrafter1001> firewall off still fatal error (4)
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#4449 [17:34] <nova1104_> Its still crashing
#4450 [17:34] <nova1104_> Should I downgrade java?
#4451 [17:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, downgrade java to 1.6.
#4452 [17:34] <Thaorn> nova1104_: Someone tell me that's the latest working version is 1.6u33
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#4454 [17:35] <Grey> Minecrafter - what is the full error?
#4455 [17:35] <Doogel> Hey, so, my problem: whenever I open Minecraft, it gives me the "Java SE Binary has stopped working" error message and crashes
#4456 [17:36] <nova1104_> Ok so I should use java version 6 and try.
#4457 [17:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes.
#4458 [17:36] <gamer66000> whos in charge here?
#4459 [17:36] <nova1104_> Hopefully this works
#4460 [17:36] <minecrafter1001> @Grey, Fatal error occured (4): Address family not supported by protocol family: connect
#4461 [17:36] <Grey> Doogle - got any error reports?
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#4463 [17:37] <Doogel> Erm what? Sorry I'm tech-retarted
#4464 [17:37] <erik_> try to login and it says login failed HELP
#4465 [17:37] <erik_> !!!!!!!\
#4466 [17:37] <Thaorn> Someone have solved the "Can't connect to minecraft.net" trouble?
#4467 [17:37] <erik_> Anyone know how to fix it
#4468 [17:37] <gamer66000> hey i just updated to 1.3 and it wont let me get it a multi-player server it says connection lost
#4469 [17:38] <gamer66000> in not it
#4470 [17:38] <zen> ?? smp/recentupdate
#4471 [17:38] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#4472 [17:38] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#4473 [17:38] <Grey> Minecrafter - that typically is caused by malware. See if you have something called relevent knowledged. Uninstall it if so
#4474 [17:38] <erik_> HELP!!!!try to login and it says login failed
#4475 [17:38] <minecrafter1001> okay
#4476 [17:38] <nova1104_> @VoxelHead LOL
#4477 [17:38] <gamer66000> ok thnx
#4478 [17:38] <Doogel> Ello?
#4479 [17:39] <zen> VoxelHead, is a bot....
#4480 [17:39] <erik_> try to login and it says login failed
#4481 [17:39] <Grey> erik - means you are putting in your username or password wrong
#4482 [17:39] <Doogel> Why did no one respond to meh
#4483 [17:39] <bubbleboy567> ^Love that.
#4484 [17:39] <nova1104_> Seems to be working right now. I will let it run for half an hour or so and see if it crashs
#4485 [17:40] <Thaorn> Someone have solved the "Can't connect to minecraft.net" trouble?
#4486 [17:40] <Grey> Because you are not the only one in here
#4487 [17:40] <erik_> i know iits right ive tried like 1000 times
#4488 [17:40] <zen> Doogel, do you get a text file on your desktop called something like hs_err_pid_?
#4489 [17:40] <bubbleboy567> Thaorn, stop. You`ve sent the same message like 5 times.
#4490 [17:40] <Doogel> No?
#4491 [17:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright, nova. Hope this works. :)
#4492 [17:40] <Grey> Thaorn - there can be several causes of that
#4493 [17:41] <Thaorn> bubbleboy567: Okay, i'm sorry ^^', just asking if nobody read it
#4494 [17:41] <Grey> Thaorn - has minecraft ever worked before?
#4495 [17:41] <Thaorn> Grey: It's working someday ago, and I try with firewall disabled
#4496 [17:41] <Thaorn> Grey: It works and stop working and i don't play / modify Minecraft since
#4497 [17:42] <Grey> Thoarn - are you able to access the minecraft.net website?
#4498 [17:42] <Thaorn> Grey: I've think of an update of my antivirus, but i disabled my firewall (and all the protection), and it doesn't work.
#4499 [17:42] <Thaorn> Grey: And yes, i've 2 minecraft account, and i can log in on the website with
#4500 [17:43] <Thaorn> Grey: I can play / update minecraft by using the website
#4501 [17:43] <Thaorn> Grey: I've made the migration of my Minecraft account to Mojan accounts too
#4502 [17:43] <Thaorn> Grey: I'm using Java 1.6u33 (x64)
#4503 [17:43] <Doogel> .
#4504 [17:43] <zen> ??> Doogel win/dxdiag
#4505 [17:43] <VoxelHead> Doogel: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
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#4507 [17:43] <VoxelHead> Doogel: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#4508 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#4509 [17:44] <cr> I need help trying to figure out why my minecraft didnt update with the introduction of 1.3
#4510 [17:44] <GreyVulpine> Thaoh - What do you get when you try that website?
#4511 [17:45] <GreyVulpine> cr - Do a Force Update through the launcher's options menu
#4512 [17:45] <cr> I did and that didnt work it still shows as 1.2.5
#4513 [17:45] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: It tell "Bad login" but i suppose i have to replace "Meep" by my login and password with my password?
#4514 [17:46] <CrusaderDeleters> No, you don't.
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#4516 [17:46] <GreyVulpine> Thaoh - Nope. Just wondering if your computer can access the login server. "Bad Login" means yes
#4517 [17:46] <zen> Thaorn, that says something is working right
#4518 [17:46] <Doogel> http://pastebin.com/zYg5i9nj
#4519 [17:46] <Doogel> There
#4520 [17:46] <caz> downlaod mod
#4521 [17:46] <caz> who do I download mod
#4522 [17:47] <caz> How do I downlaod a mod
#4523 [17:47] <cr> Could this problem be in the files?
#4524 [17:47] <caz> help
#4525 [17:47] <caz> ha ha
#4526 [17:47] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: So i guess i can access
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#4528 [17:48] <jean> hello
#4529 [17:48] <cr> Where is the jar file for the version of minecraft located at?
#4530 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Alright. So, in the launcher, when you get "Can't connect to minecraft.net", do you see a news feed?
#4531 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> cr - At:
#4532 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> !client
#4533 [17:48] <cr> Yes I do
#4534 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> cr - That question was directed at Thaorn.
#4535 [17:48] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Yes i see the 1.3.1 changelog (I just try with my login and with my mail as username but it still doesn't work)
#4536 [17:48] <GreyVulpine> Your question was answered by AuBot.
#4537 [17:49] <jean> can't log into multi player after 1.3.1 patch
#4538 [17:49] <GreyVulpine> jean - You'll need to wait for the server's admin to update their server
#4539 [17:49] <zen> ??> jean smp/recentupdate
#4540 [17:49] <VoxelHead> jean: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#4541 [17:49] <VoxelHead> jean: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#4542 [17:49] <CrusaderDeleters> cr: Windows key + r, %appdata%\.minecraft\bin, cr
#4543 [17:50] <cr> what is it named
#4544 [17:50] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Alright. Well, can't connect to minecraft.net can be caused by several things. A firewall blocking minecraft is what I'm thinking you have
#4545 [17:50] <zen> Doogel, might be a graphics problem, let me get voxel to link you to where you can download newer drivers
#4546 [17:50] <zen> ??> doogle gpu/nvidia
#4547 [17:50] <VoxelHead> doogle: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#4548 [17:50] <jean> that's cool my admin server is my girlfriend's computer and she's sitting right next to me and has updated her minecraft as well
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#4550 [17:50] <Doogel> Okei...but I've been playing for months now...
#4551 [17:51] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: It's the first thing i tried. I'm using Eset smart security 5, and i try to launch and log with firewall and all the protection disabled, but it still doesn't work
#4552 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> jean - Updating minecraft, the client, doesn't update the server
#4553 [17:51] <jean> alright
#4554 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Are you on the computer that's having the problem right now?
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#4556 [17:51] <zen> jean, update the server files, they are avaiable at minecraft.net/download
#4557 [17:51] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Yes i am
#4558 [17:51] <zen> it will be the minecraft_server.exe that you want to replace
#4559 [17:51] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Check to make sure your system's date and time are correct
#4560 [17:51] <zen> then start the server again
#4561 [17:52] <cr> When ever i hit force update it just says will force
#4562 [17:52] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: 01/08/2012 23:51 (i'm french), everything is fine
#4563 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> cr - Then log in as normal
#4564 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> cr - Then log in as normal
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#4567 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> cr - Minecraft will download its files upon next login
#4568 [17:52] <bigbearjeff> Hi folks. Can anyone tell me if there is a limit on the number of rails I can lay down? I was trying to setup a long minecart system, and after laying several I turned around and they were all floating. I went back picked them all up. Re-layed then, and right clicked my bed, and they all poofed?
#4569 [17:52] <Doogel> Zen: Um you have to spell my name right if you want me to see your messages...
#4570 [17:52] <GreyVulpine> bigbearjeff - There is not
#4571 [17:52] <bigbearjeff> Odd any idea what may be causing that?
#4572 [17:53] <zen> Doogel, i know, i'm tired, give me a break
#4573 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> bigbearjeff - Got anything disturbing the ground? Any water flowing over them? Is this on single or multiplayer
#4574 [17:53] <Doogel> K sorry
#4575 [17:53] <tawiturtle> so when i updated minecraft for 1.3.1 so then i tryed to make a new world and when it was loading it went back to the main screen forzen and then crashed
#4576 [17:53] <cr> I figured out the problem.....it says im not premium
#4577 [17:53] <tawiturtle> can someone help
#4578 [17:53] <GreyVulpine> cr - Then you didn't pay for minecraft
#4579 [17:53] <bigbearjeff> Single Player mode and on dirt. Water is close, but not on or directly under the tracks. It was wierd
#4580 [17:53] <Doogel> but yeah, I've been playing Minecraft for months and it's never happenes..
#4581 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> cr - Minecraft, the downloaded version, is not free.
#4582 [17:54] <cr> I know i payed for it
#4583 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Try an uninstall/reinstall of java
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#4585 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> cr - What is your username?
#4586 [17:54] <cr> cdroberts14
#4587 [17:54] <Anonymous_> Hello?
#4588 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> !paid cdroberts14
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#4590 [17:54] <GreyVulpine> That username is not marked as premuim
#4591 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you paid for minecraft under that username?
#4592 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you paid for minecraft under that username?
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#4594 [17:55] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: I was using Java7, and i uninstall and i just reinstall java 6u33 10 minutes ago
#4595 [17:55] <zen> cr when did you purchase the game?
#4596 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Hmm.
#4597 [17:55] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: (But Minecraft already run with java 7 on my computer)
#4598 [17:55] <jean> okay, will we have to update the server every time they update minecraft?
#4599 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> jean - Yes
#4600 [17:55] <viveleroi> is it intentional to have certain sounds extremely quiet, almost impossible to hear? like breaking blocks, picking up drops?
#4601 [17:55] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Hmm..
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#4603 [17:55] <jean> no no sorry....
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#4605 [17:55] <Anonymous_> Is there any other way to buy Minecraft?
#4606 [17:55] <Doogel> Please answer me
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#4608 [17:56] <jean> do we have to replace the server?
#4609 [17:56] <Anonymous_> I can't buy Minecraft with credit cards or Paypal!
#4610 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> jean - You'll need to update the server every time, yes.
#4611 [17:56] <bubbleboy567> Is Crusader still around?
#4612 [17:56] <Anonymous_> Who is in charge here?
#4613 [17:56] <nova1104_> yay my minecraft is working now
#4614 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> jean - The world, you can leave as is, the server that you launch, will need to be updated each time minecraft updates
#4615 [17:56] <zen> Anonymous_, no one, we are the community
#4616 [17:56] <nova1104_> Bye bye everyone
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#4619 [17:56] <bubbleboy567> Nova is Crusader around?
#4620 [17:56] <bigbearjeff> I see the channel is swamped ath. I will come back another time. Thanks Grey for your input.
#4621 [17:56] <bigbearjeff> atm that is
#4622 [17:56] <Anonymous_> Cam you please help me!
#4623 [17:56] <Anonymous_> I need help please
#4624 [17:56] <GreyVulpine> Anonymous_ - Only if you tell us your problem
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#4626 [17:57] <Anonymous_> Ok my problem is that I can't buy Minecraft with credit cards or Paypal, is there any other way to buy it?
#4627 [17:57] <jean> thank you everyone
#4628 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Anonymous_ - The answer is no
#4629 [17:57] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Hmm, besides eset, do you use any other firewalls?
#4630 [17:57] <Kerian> I'm having problems with Minecraft's brightness, can somebody help me?
#4631 [17:57] <Doogel> Hello?!
#4632 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Doogel - Did you give us a dxdiag?
#4633 [17:58] <Doogel> Yes...
#4634 [17:58] <Anonymous_> Where can I contact Majong?
#4635 [17:58] <Anonymous_> I want to give them a suggestion
#4636 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Anonymous_ - Try twitter.
#4637 [17:58] <Doogel> they said something about downloading new drivers but I've been playing for months and it's never happened.
#4638 [17:58] <GreyVulpine> Anonymous_ - Here is jeb's twitter address. He's the lead dev for minecraft: http://twitter.com/jeb_
#4639 [17:59] <zen> Doogel, new drivers might help, GreyVulpine surely giving marc's twitter would be better?
#4640 [17:59] <Doogel> Ok, but the download page is confusing xD
#4641 [17:59] <Anonymous_> Ok thanks GreyVulpine
#4642 [17:59] <GreyVulpine> zen - Marc is account support. He has no tie in with the development of minecraft
#4643 [17:59] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: I juste have the windows firewall by default, but it works before, and my box (FAI modem) have his own firewall but i've already play and it doesn't block (i'm really sorry, i'm french, and i'm not fluent in english, so i hope i don't make your eyes bleeding)
#4644 [18:00] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - No worries. Hmm...
#4645 [18:00] <zen> GreyVulpine, but jeb has no affiliation with payments what so ever either
#4646 [18:00] * GreyVulpine thought the question was for a way to suggest something to Mojang.
#4646 [18:01] <zen> anything from community is surely better to go through marc to pass on to the relevent person
#4647 [18:01] * zen missed that line
#4647 [18:03] <Doogel> Do you guys want the dxdiag again? xD
#4648 [18:03] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Could you check your programs list in the control panel, make sure you don't have something like "RelevantKnowledge" installed?
#4649 [18:03] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: For sure, i check it right now
#4650 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Doogel - Your original problem was that java crashes?
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#4652 [18:04] <Doogel> Erm yes
#4653 [18:04] <GreyVulpine> Doogel - Could you completely uninstall and wipe java from your system so that you can reinstall it fresh?
#4654 [18:05] <Doogel> If I uninstall will that "wipe it from my system"
#4655 [18:05] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Nope, i have'nt this software
#4656 [18:05] <GreyVulpine> Generally, yes
#4657 [18:05] <Doogel> Generally...
#4658 [18:05] <Doogel> Is uninstalling enough, then?
#4659 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Doogel - For the most part, yes. There are some instances when an uninstaller will leave remnents on the computer that can cause problems.
#4660 [18:06] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - You're on windows, right?
#4661 [18:06] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: And doesn't appear in C:/Program files and C:/program files (x86)
#4662 [18:06] <Doogel> ok, i guess I'll uninstall then,,,
#4663 [18:07] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Yes, i'm using Win 7 home premium (i guess, i'm not sure, it's in french for me "family" is the best traduction)
#4664 [18:07] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Alright. Could you go to your start menu, in the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#4665 [18:08] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: it's done
#4666 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. This will bring you to your home folder. Please tell me if the folder's name has any special characters in it.
#4667 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> Anything that's not a normal letter or number in it
#4668 [18:08] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: My name is "F14vi3n"
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#4670 [18:08] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: I guess it's not excentric
#4671 [18:08] <GreyVulpine> That's not it then..
#4672 [18:09] <GreyVulpine> There's some cases when a special character in the user folder can cause that error. Just ruling it out
#4673 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> So it's not java, since you can see the news feed, it's not the username, it's not the firewall, it's not the date/time, it's not that malware..
#4674 [18:10] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: I don't think it's the problem, cause when i run Minecraft on my browser, it update my desktop version
#4675 [18:10] <Doogel> Should I uninstall anything that has java in the name?
#4676 [18:10] <Doogel> lol
#4677 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> Doogel - Yes
#4678 [18:10] <GreyVulpine> You can see the login.minecraft.net website, so it's not a connection problem..
#4679 [18:10] <Doogel> Even "JavaFX"?
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#4681 [18:10] <Drew> Hello
#4682 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Doogel - Don't think you need to
#4683 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Hello
#4684 [18:11] <Doogel> K
#4685 [18:11] <Drew> Um I bought minecraft a few days ago
#4686 [18:11] <Drew> I still am unable to use my launcher
#4687 [18:11] <GreyVulpine> Drew - Unable to use it how? What error do you get?
#4688 [18:11] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Username&password=Password&version=13 tell me "Bad Login" and with my real login it tell me that the username must be an email, so i think the connection is ok
#4689 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - The connection is fine
#4690 [18:12] <Drew> I cant connect to minecraft.net it says
#4691 [18:12] <Thaorn> Drew: We have the same problem !
#4692 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - The only difference between the browser and the downloaded connection, is that the downloaded client uses SSL. Are you absolutely sure there's no security programs at all that may be interfering
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#4694 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Drew - Operating system?
#4695 [18:12] <Doogel> Ok it's telling me I have to restart my computer for the changes to take effect...so I'll be back. Ok?
#4696 [18:12] <GreyVulpine> Doogel - Sure
#4697 [18:13] <Drew> Sure
#4698 [18:13] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: I can screen the error message whith my firewall disabled if you want
#4699 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Drew - That was a question. What is your operating system?
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#4701 [18:13] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - That's alright. Hmm.
#4702 [18:13] <Drew> Oh srry its Mcsfee and nortan I believe
#4703 [18:14] <Drew> Mcafee
#4704 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Those are security software. What is your operating system?
#4705 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> ?? os
#4706 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Hmm
#4707 [18:14] <Drew> Srry im no good with cpu idk
#4708 [18:14] <PixieNinja23> Hi guys, I've run into problems trying to get a demo version of Minecraft running. If anyone can help when they've got a minute, it would be much appreciated.
#4709 [18:14] <GreyVulpine> Are you on a windows machine? Mac? Linux?
#4710 [18:14] <Drew> OH lol windows
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#4713 [18:16] <Anonymous_> GreyVulpine thank you very much
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#4715 [18:16] <joenihilator> hello?
#4716 [18:16] <Drew> windows
#4717 [18:16] <GreyVulpine> Drew - What version of windows?
#4718 [18:16] <Drew> windows 7
#4719 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Drew - Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#4720 [18:17] <Drew> k
#4721 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> Drew - Press enter. Tell me if the folder's name it takes you to, has a ! mark at the ned
#4722 [18:17] <slowfi> has anyone successfullly logged into a working 1.3 server yet? all I know are down
#4723 [18:17] <GreyVulpine> er, end
#4724 [18:17] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Here is the screenshot, it show that all my firewall are down : http://www.hapshack.com/images/2r9Ak.png
#4725 [18:18] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Since i down all my FW, i quit and restart minecraft
#4726 [18:18] <Drew> Up came favorites...
#4727 [18:18] <GreyVulpine> Drew - Press enter after putting in: %userprofile%
#4728 [18:18] <PixieNinja23> My issue: All I get is a window showing "Updating Minecraft", "Done loading" and a progress bar that's at 95% or so. Un and reinstalled Java. Cleared my .minecraft folder, still the same issue.
#4729 [18:18] <Drew> k
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#4731 [18:18] <pntbys> hello
#4732 [18:19] <pntbys> i have a question for everyone
#4733 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> PixieNinja23 - Did you completely remove everything in your .minecraft folder?
#4734 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> pntbys - We have answers
#4735 [18:19] <PixieNinja23> I did.
#4736 [18:19] <Drew> Roaming correct
#4737 [18:19] <pntbys> is there maintenance for minecraft
#4738 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> PixieNinja23 - Got any security software? Try disabling it
#4739 [18:19] <pntbys> because i cannot login at all
#4740 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> !login
#4741 [18:19] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#4742 [18:19] <joenihilator> Every time I click on the minecraft launcher I type in my login details, hit the login button it just comes up "can't connect to minecraft.net" this has happened several times over the past couple of months so it isn't minecraft servers. Suggestions?
#4743 [18:20] <pntbys> exactly wat happened to me
#4744 [18:20] <joenihilator> howdid you fix?
#4745 [18:20] <Drew> Roaming correct?
#4746 [18:20] <GreyVulpine> Drew - I'm looking for the folder that contains your windows username
#4747 [18:21] <PixieNinja23> Nope, shutting down virus protection doesn't change a thing.
#4748 [18:21] <Drew> okay..then..
#4749 [18:21] <Thaorn> Drew: Have you a session name?
#4750 [18:21] <Drew> session name?
#4751 [18:21] <GreyVulpine> PixieNinja23 - What virus software are you running?
#4752 [18:21] <PixieNinja23> Vipre.
#4753 [18:21] <Thaorn> Drew: When you hit the "start" button, on the top of the menu, do you have your first name or the name of your PC?
#4754 [18:21] <Drew> oh yea its...
#4755 [18:22] <Drew> Sarah!
#4756 [18:22] <Thaorn> Drew: It could be near a little picture, i guess it's what Grey is looking for ;)
#4757 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> That'll be why
#4758 [18:22] <Drew> yup
#4759 [18:22] <Drew> Sarah
#4760 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> Drew - A ! at the end of the windows username can cause a "can't connect to minecraft.net" error
#4761 [18:22] <GreyVulpine> You have two options at this point.
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#4763 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Option one. You can create a New windows user account, one that doesn't have a ! mark in it. Renaming your current one does not work.
#4764 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Or Option Two. You can try our modified launcher.
#4765 [18:23] <Drew> Oh wait there isnt an exclamation
#4766 [18:23] <Drew> I just put one lol
#4767 [18:23] <joenihilator> how do I try the modified launcher?
#4768 [18:23] <Drew> Its just "Sarah"
#4769 [18:23] <GreyVulpine> Oh. Then never mind.
#4770 [18:23] <Drew> srry lol
#4771 [18:24] <GreyVulpine> The modified launcher that we give out here, only fixes a specific issue.
#4772 [18:24] <joenihilator> Ahh
#4773 [18:24] <joenihilator> Every time I click on the minecraft launcher I type in my login details, hit the login button it just comes up "can't connect to minecraft.net" this has happened several times over the past couple of months so it isn't minecraft servers. Suggestions?
#4774 [18:25] <Thaorn> joenihilator: i can't help you, i've the same trouble :/
#4775 [18:25] <joenihilator> ive never been able to login with my email
#4776 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> joenihilator - Try the in-browser client at minecraft.net/play
#4777 [18:25] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. I can log in just fine.
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#4779 [18:25] <joenihilator> tried, doesnt work
#4780 [18:26] <PixieNinja23> All that the client creates in my .minecraft folder is a bin folder, nothing else.
#4781 [18:26] <GreyVulpine> joenihilator - Doesn't?
#4782 [18:26] <joenihilator> no
#4783 [18:26] <Drew> Should I try logging in?
#4784 [18:26] <joenihilator> just comes up error in the top left courner
#4785 [18:27] <GreyVulpine> joenihilator - Bring up the java console when you try to connect. Paste the contents of the log to pastebin.com and give us the URL
#4786 [18:27] <Thaorn> joenihilator: it show you a html code? since <br> a lot of that stuff?
#4787 [18:27] <joenihilator> one moment
#4788 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Sorry, I don't know how else to help you here..
#4789 [18:28] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Could you try this on a different computer?
#4790 [18:29] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Oh it's nothing, i'm very happy to find help, and i don't know how to say it in English, but i think you're great
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#4792 [18:29] <Drew> So um wat should I do next?
#4793 [18:29] <GreyVulpine> I just got off a 10 hour shift at work. I'm dead tired..
#4794 [18:29] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Yes, i can use my girlfriend laptop, i try now
#4795 [18:29] <Guest> someone help me please with a problem
#4796 [18:30] <Drew> Hello?
#4797 [18:30] <GreyVulpine> Drew - In the launcher, do you see a news feed?
#4798 [18:31] <Drew> U mean the details on the update?
#4799 [18:31] <Guest> suddenly some uncooked food was vanished. is that a known bug?
#4800 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Drew - Yes
#4801 [18:31] <Drew> Yea I do
#4802 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> Guest - Try: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs
#4803 [18:31] <GreyVulpine> If it's known, it'll be listed there
#4804 [18:31] <Guest> ok thanks
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#4806 [18:31] <joenihilator> sorry about that
#4807 [18:31] <joenihilator> http://pastebin.com/irsp99Sh
#4808 [18:32] <joenihilator> thats the URL
#4809 [18:32] <PixieNinja23> Can anyone suggest anything?
#4810 [18:32] <joenihilator> Vox?
#4811 [18:32] <joenihilator> Vulp?
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#4813 [18:33] <joenihilator> GreyVulpine? any ideas?
#4814 [18:33] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: I just try on my girlfriend laptop, and it doesn't work anymore :/
#4815 [18:33] <Drew> bdjkgrg
#4816 [18:33] <Drew> srry I fell
#4817 [18:33] <Guest39680> Is there some way that i can talk to the people from Mojang?
#4818 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> joenihilator - Try reinstalling java
#4819 [18:34] <GreyVulpine> Guest39680 - Concerning?
#4820 [18:34] <joenihilator> would that explan the "can't connect to minecraft.net mesage"?
#4821 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Thaorn - Then there's something wonky with your 'net connection
#4822 [18:35] <Guest39680> When I try to update my Minecraft it says fatal error has occured
#4823 [18:35] <GreyVulpine> Guest39680 - What is the exact error?
#4824 [18:35] <DopeGhoti> did anyone die?
#4825 [18:35] <Thaorn> GreyVulpine: Ok, thanks a lot, i check my modem configuration tomorrow, thanks a lot ! And i'm sorry again for my poor english
#4826 [18:36] <GreyVulpine> No worries
#4827 [18:36] <Thaorn> Drew: (If you really fell, you make me laugh so hard)
#4828 [18:36] <Greenfire> I am currently unable to play Minecraft. When I logged in it asked me if I wanted to update and I clicked yes. It got stuck at 44% and said something along the lines of "file error encountered" or something like that. So I exited and opened it up again. This time, I clicked "not now". It went to the updating screen and said deciding which files to load or something. Then it got stuck at "Done Loading". Now I can't pla
#4829 [18:36] <Drew> :)
#4830 [18:36] <Thaorn> Good night all ! Hope you'll solve your trouble !
#4831 [18:36] <Guest39680> I don't know it just says /Users/Josh/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#4832 [18:36] <Drew> ill never tell
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#4834 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Guest39680 - Go to /Users/Josh/Library/Application Support/minecraft/ and delete everything but the saves folder
#4835 [18:37] <meh> Hey, someone mind giving me a hand?
#4836 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Most likely, there's a file in there that's corrupt
#4837 [18:37] <Greenfire> Oh yeah mine said fatal error that was it!
#4838 [18:37] <meh> Hello ?
#4839 [18:37] <Guest39680> Do i really need to delete everything? Won't it mess up my minecraft?
#4840 [18:37] <GreyVulpine> Greenfire - What's the exact error?
#4841 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Guest39680 - No. When you log back in, it'll download everything
#4842 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> Just make sure you leave the saves folder
#4843 [18:38] <Greenfire> I don't know let me try again
#4844 [18:38] <Drew> Dont Worry Meh he will answer soon
#4845 [18:38] <meh> Okay.
#4846 [18:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> meh ask
#4847 [18:38] <VoxelHead> meh: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#4848 [18:38] <VoxelHead> meh: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#4849 [18:38] <Guest39680> If something goes wrong is there someway i could fix it?
#4850 [18:38] <GreyVulpine> That is how you fix it
#4851 [18:38] <PixieNinja23> Um... can anyone help?
#4852 [18:39] <Guest39680> Ok. Thanks
#4853 [18:39] <GreyVulpine> Please go to /Users/Josh/Library/Application Support/minecraft/ -- delete everything except for the saves folder. Then Log back in]]
#4854 [18:39] <meh> I have been trying to connect to another computer via lan. I opened the lan setting inside the game, and other conputers on my network cannot detect it.
#4855 [18:39] <Drew> So um I hav the folder open.
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#4857 [18:39] <meh> How do I get my world to be detectible to others on my network
#4858 [18:39] <DopeGhoti> meh: are the other computers on the same subnet or physical network segment?
#4859 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> meh: Is the server running a firewall?
#4860 [18:40] <Greenfire> It's at 88% this time and stuck again... but I haven't gotten the error message yet.
#4861 [18:40] <Noigiler> Im having issues with running Minecraft on a Mac. Anyone able to help me out with this? I am getting crash after crash when trying to open even my inventory.
#4862 [18:40] <meh> I dont know what that means, and the host doesnt have a firewall up
#4863 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> Markillion: are you getting any error messages?
#4864 [18:40] <DopeGhoti> meh: I'm looking to get a sense of your network topology.
#4865 [18:41] <Drew> wait Ill BRB
#4866 [18:41] <PixieNinja23> My issue: All I get is a window showing "Updating Minecraft", "Done loading" and a progress bar that's at 95% or so. Un and reinstalled Java. Cleared my .minecraft folder, still the same issue. Windows 7. No error messages appear. .minecraft folder only contains a bin folder, nothing else. Closing down antivirus doesn't make any difference (Vipre).
#4867 [18:41] <DopeGhoti> ??> PixieNinja23 specs
#4868 [18:41] <VoxelHead> PixieNinja23: (specs) Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#4869 [18:41] <Greenfire> PixieNinja23 - similar problem here.
#4870 [18:42] <Guest39680> There are 9 saved files when i goto that. Saves, bin, resources, mods, stats, texture packs, last login, options.txt, and servers.dat. I have to delete everything except saves?
#4871 [18:42] <DopeGhoti> Guest39680: well, what were you told?
#4872 [18:43] <Drew> K I am BACK
#4873 [18:43] <Guest39680> Delete everything except saves... But i wanted to make sure
#4874 [18:44] <Greenfire> Fatal Error Occurred (4): Connection Reset Retrieving: minecraft.jar 88% @698.35 KB/sec
#4875 [18:44] <PixieNinja23> Self built, Windows 7 64 bit, 6GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD 5870, Java 7 update 5
#4876 [18:45] <Drew> I hav all the folders open and im ready
#4877 [18:45] <Guest39680> Ok it worked. Thanks. But since i deleted that server thing does that mean i can't make or go on servers anymore?
#4878 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> PixieNinja23 java/1.7
#4879 [18:45] <VoxelHead> PixieNinja23: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#4880 [18:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> PixieNinja23 getjava
#4881 [18:45] <VoxelHead> PixieNinja23: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#4882 [18:45] <Drew> MrGrey?
#4883 [18:46] <meh> Okay, so I'm pretty sure I was forgotten about. I'm having an issue with having others connecting to my lan world. I opened a single player world, and chose the option to open to lan, and then opened it. And yet the other computers on my same network cannot connect. What do I do to be able to be detected?
#4884 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> meh: are the other computers on the same subnet or physical network segment?
#4885 [18:47] <Drew> Vulpine?
#4886 [18:47] <Guest39680> Where i goto to multiplayer it says scanning for LAN is that bad?
#4887 [18:47] <meh> You asked me that, I don't know what that means
#4888 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> Guest39680: No.
#4889 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> meh: I'm looking to get a sense of your network topology.
#4890 [18:47] <Guest39680> But what happened to all my saved servers?
#4891 [18:47] <meh> You said that too, and never got back to me
#4892 [18:47] <DopeGhoti> I cannot assist you without more detailed information.
#4893 [18:47] <Drew> Hello?
#4894 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> allow me to rephrase: I am trying to elicit, from you, more information about your network topology.
#4895 [18:48] <meh> Allow me to rephrase: I am trying to elicit, from you, that I have no idea what that means.
#4896 [18:48] <Greenfire> Anybody gonna answer me? I typed inmy exact error.
#4897 [18:48] <DopeGhoti> ?define topology
#4898 [18:48] <VoxelHead> Noun (1/4) (n) topology (topographic study of a given place (especially the history of the place as indicated by its topography)) "Greenland's topology has been shaped by the glaciers of the ice age"
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#4900 [18:49] <Drew> Helloooo?
#4901 [18:49] <Guest39680> Why does it say scanning for LAN Worlds?
#4902 [18:49] <meh> Okay, I live in oregon..
#4903 [18:49] <Guest39680> Is that part of the update
#4904 [18:49] <DopeGhoti> Guest39680: because the new version supports that as a new feature?
#4905 [18:50] <Drew> Vulpine u there??
#4906 [18:50] <Guest39680> Ok but i can stil make and go on servers correct?
#4907 [18:50] <meh> Can I have someone else assist me.
#4908 [18:50] <meh> We just aren't seeing eye to eye
#4909 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> Guest39680: correct
#4910 [18:50] <DopeGhoti> meh: as you wish.
#4911 [18:50] <Guest39680> Ok thanks.
#4912 [18:50] <Guest39680> What does meh need help with?
#4913 [18:50] <PixieNinja23> I've updated Java, still the same problem.
#4914 [18:50] <Greenfire> Here is my error: Fatal Error Occurred (4): Connection Reset Retrieving: minecraft.jar 88% @698.35 KB/sec
#4915 [18:50] <meh> Okay, so I'm pretty sure I was forgotten about. I'm having an issue with having others connecting to my lan world. I opened a single player world, and chose the option to open to lan, and then opened it. And yet the other computers on my same network cannot connect. What do I do to be able to be detected?
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#4917 [18:51] <Drew> Vulpine I need help?
#4918 [18:51] <Guest39680> meh: how many people are trying to join?
#4919 [18:51] <meh> 2 others
#4920 [18:52] <Drew> Anyone know if vulpine is still on???
#4921 [18:52] <Guest39680> Are you sure its not the other people that could have the problem?
#4922 [18:52] <meh> I've tried hosting and tried joining on all three of the computers
#4923 [18:52] <Greenfire> Please someone help!! I tried updating java but apparently I have to restart my browser??
#4924 [18:52] <meh> No on can sucessfully host or detect
#4925 [18:53] <meh> no one *
#4926 [18:53] <Drew> heelooooooo
#4927 [18:53] <DopeGhoti> ?? patience
#4928 [18:53] <meh> Actually, we call can sucessfully host, just none can be detected
#4929 [18:53] <VoxelHead> patience: Please be patient when waiting for a response. Many of the helpers here are helping in their free time at school or work, and often get called away.
#4930 [18:53] <VoxelHead> patience: In short, your supplications will be answered, in the order in which they are received. See also ?? attitude.
#4931 [18:53] <Guest39680> Sorry i dont what to say?
#4932 [18:53] <Greenfire> meh - if no one can do anything, your connection is probably messed up somehow.
#4933 [18:53] <Drew> srry..
#4934 [18:54] <meh> Hm. Seems like no one can help : /
#4935 [18:54] <meh> My connection works fine, I think. I play other video games.
#4936 [18:54] <Greenfire> meh - i guess u could try reconfiguring your network or something
#4937 [18:54] <meh> How
#4938 [18:54] <Greenfire> idk
#4939 [18:55] <Greenfire> im just throwing out suggestions... i have little technical know-how.
#4940 [18:55] <meh> Ah
#4941 [18:55] <meh> Fair enough
#4942 [18:55] <PixieNinja23> I just wish there was some indication as to what my issue is - at least an error would give me a place to start, but I have nothing :(
#4943 [18:56] <Greenfire> PixieNinja23 - did you click "Not Now" or "Yes" whe asked to update?
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#4945 [18:58] <Greenfire> PixieNinja23 - I got mine to work. Install 64-bit java 1.6 u33 and try closing minecraft then try again
#4946 [18:58] <PixieNinja23> I've not been asked to update. Trying to run the demo, so I log in, click "Play Demo", and I'm back to the same screen - Updating Minecraft, done loading, 95% progress bar that doesn't move :(
#4947 [18:59] <PixieNinja23> Greenfire - did you install 32 bit too?
#4948 [18:59] <Greenfire> Demo???
#4949 [18:59] <PixieNinja23> Yeah, demo.
#4950 [18:59] <Greenfire> No, I think I already had that
#4951 [18:59] <Greenfire> idk anything about a demo...
#4952 [18:59] <PixieNinja23> Yup, added in 1.3
#4953 [18:59] <Greenfire> Wait did you already update to 1.3?
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#4955 [18:59] <Brian> Hello
#4956 [19:00] <Greenfire> Oh well I was still running 1.2.5
#4957 [19:00] <Brian> Does anyone know how to convert 1.3 back to 1.2.5? on mac?
#4958 [19:00] <Greenfire> Why do you want to convert back?
#4959 [19:00] <PixieNinja23> Nope, not updated a thing, never played on the PC before - downloaded the launcher, not got much further, as it's not downloaded a thing.
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#4961 [19:01] <Drew> I still dont know wat to do
#4962 [19:01] <Brian> I want to convert back so I can play with my friends on the servers that havn't been converted to 1.3
#4963 [19:01] <Greenfire> Did you launch the launcher?
#4964 [19:01] <Greenfire> Drew - what is your problem again?
#4965 [19:02] <PixieNinja23> I did launch the launcher, and that's where the problems begin.
#4966 [19:02] <Drew> So, I bought my account a few days ago, and I got a confirmation of purchase email and everything, but now when I log into the launcher, i get the "cannot connect to minecraft.net" error message
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#4968 [19:02] <Drew> My internet is working fine when I try to log in and I can see the minecraft newsfeed and everything
#4969 [19:03] <Champ> I've tried to download minecraft but it keeps saying can't connect to minecraft.net I've tried everything on youtube with no luck
#4970 [19:03] <Brian> So there is no way to downgrade on mac..?
#4971 [19:03] <Greenfire> idk what to tell you. i guess u could try downloading both 32 and 64-bit java, then if that doesnt work, you could uninstall and re-download the launcher
#4972 [19:04] <zombiesaw> (multiplayer) ho do i start a multiplayer server when im not premium?
#4973 [19:04] <Drew> ah, i'll see if that corrects it.
#4974 [19:04] <Greenfire> Idk anything about downgrading or macs, sorry
#4975 [19:04] <PixieNinja23> Greenfire: already tried this, but to no avail :(
#4976 [19:05] <Greenfire> Hmm... weird. lol drew thought i was talking to him... i was trying to tell u.
#4977 [19:05] <zombiesaw> i did what it said and it says 'java' is not reconized as an internal or externam command, operable program or batch file. press any key to continue ... what do i do?
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#4979 [19:06] <Aikar> so, 1.3.1 lan games fail? fiances binded to 127.0.1.1... how do I get hers to bind to the right IP?
#4980 [19:06] <Greenfire> well idk. downloading java fixed my problems, so... im sorry i cant help.
#4981 [19:09] <Aikar> um
#4982 [19:09] <Aikar> she binded on ipv6
#4983 [19:09] <Aikar> what the hell?
#4984 [19:10] <Aikar> tcp6 0 0 127.0.1.1:48373 :::* LISTEN 4475/java
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#4986 [19:11] <gamer> hi how long is it untill 1.3.1 bug fix is out
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#4988 [19:12] <gamer> hello?
#4989 [19:12] <weeiz> hello
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#4992 [19:12] <gamer> how long is it untill 1.3.1 bug fix comes out
#4993 [19:13] <zen> what bugfix?
#4994 [19:13] <Boreeas> gamer: 1.3.1 came out today
#4995 [19:13] <gamer> no 1.3.1 BUG FIX
#4996 [19:13] <Boreeas> Bugfixes will take anywhere from one day to a couple of weeks, depending on the severity of the bug and how easy it is to fix
#4997 [19:13] <Boreeas> There is no way to predict that
#4998 [19:13] <gamer> ok
#4999 [19:13] <zen> what bug fix though? I haven't heard of any bad bugs
#5000 [19:13] <PixieNinja23> Pah, a reboot didn't help :(
#5001 [19:14] <gamer> there are flooting coaco beans LOL
#5002 [19:14] <zen> Sounds like minor world gen problems
#5003 [19:14] <gamer> i no
#5004 [19:14] <NinjaKirby> Have you seen the rotation speed of Mobs in the Cage Spawners in peaceful mode? It's like 500mph. Only bug I've seen.
#5005 [19:15] <Aikar> anyone know how to change LAN Server bind IP?
#5006 [19:15] <Aikar> it apparently doesnt like linux and is binding to tcp6 0 0 127.0.1.1:48373 :::* LISTEN 4475/java
#5007 [19:15] <zen> As no one else really seems to have noticed or recieved it it's probably even lower than the only one listed on the changelog
#5008 [19:15] <gamer> IS THERE ANY1 WHO WORKS IN MOJANG
#5009 [19:15] <Boreeas> Aikar: Edit the server.properties
#5010 [19:15] <Boreeas> gamer: No
#5011 [19:15] <Boreeas> gamer: No
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#5013 [19:15] <gamer> oj
#5014 [19:15] <Boreeas> Please refrain from shouting
#5015 [19:15] <gamer> yoh
#5016 [19:15] <gamer> oh
#5017 [19:15] <gamer> ok
#5018 [19:16] <Aikar> Boreeas: where is that for a LAN server?
#5019 [19:16] <zen> Boreeas, he on about local lan games being the play single player, players can join you feature
#5020 [19:16] <Boreeas> Aikar: Alternatively, there are switches to force ipv4
#5021 [19:16] <Boreeas> Ah, that works, too
#5022 [19:16] <zen> And there are no options for that
#5023 [19:16] <Boreeas> ??> Aikar java/ipv6
#5024 [19:16] <VoxelHead> Aikar: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#5025 [19:16] <VoxelHead> Aikar: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#5026 [19:16] <zen> -.-
#5027 [19:16] <Boreeas> These switches can also be used for the client
#5028 [19:16] <zen> Boreeas, he's not running a server jar
#5029 [19:16] <zen> but yeah that might work
#5030 [19:16] <Boreeas> [01:16:35] Boreeas These switches can also be used for the client
#5031 [19:16] <zen> :p
#5032 [19:17] <zen> was typing already, that might be a good solution some people have come here saying the feature wasn't working
#5033 [19:18] <Boreeas> Aikar: Grab the launcher jar if you haven't already, then add the switches above to the start script or the command line options and start the game
#5034 [19:18] <PixieNinja23> Can anyone suggest what to try next? I'm still stuck on "Updating Minecraft", "Done loading" and a 95% full progress bar. Trying to play the demo, and the only thing it's created is a bin folder in my .minecraft folder.
#5035 [19:18] <gamer> is there any way to estimate how long it will take this time according to how many bug there r and how big they r
#5036 [19:18] <zen> PixieNinja23, what antivirus are you running?
#5037 [19:18] <gamer> who
#5038 [19:19] <Boreeas> gamer: I told you before, there is no way to estimate that
#5039 [19:19] <gamer> =(
#5040 [19:19] <PixieNinja23> Vipre, already tried disabling it and the same problem persisted.
#5041 [19:19] <zen> And there is no way to tell if it is a repeating bug
#5042 [19:19] <zen> PixieNinja23, OS?
#5043 [19:19] <PixieNinja23> Windows 7 64 bit.
#5044 [19:20] <zen> Okay, what java version are you running?
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#5046 [19:21] <PixieNinja23> Java 6 update 33.
#5047 [19:21] <zen> Are there any other java installtions on your PC? at all
#5048 [19:21] <PixieNinja23> 32 bit and 64 bit versions of the above.
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#5050 [19:22] <Aikar> Boreeas: isnt workng
#5051 [19:22] <PixieNinja23> I don't think there's anything else, certainly nothing listed as Java that I can see.
#5052 [19:22] <Boreeas> Aikar: You are using a linux system, right?
#5053 [19:22] <Aikar> yes
#5054 [19:23] <Aikar> well its binding tcp now, but still on 127.0.1.1 for her and 127.0.0.1 for me (wtf did it get the 1.1 for her?)
#5055 [19:23] <Boreeas> Hmm
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#5057 [19:25] <Aikar> i find it hard to believe a game development company working in java doesnt have at least 1 linux user to test :/
#5058 [19:25] <Boreeas> I guess they do, but that problem might not exist on all systems
#5059 [19:25] <Aikar> ubuntu 12.04, and her install of ubuntu is only like 4 days old
#5060 [19:25] <Boreeas> yeah, same happens for me
#5061 [19:25] <Aikar> so, w/e is hitting her is likely all ubuntu
#5062 [19:26] <Aikar> us*
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#5064 [19:26] <Aikar> interesting
#5065 [19:26] <Aikar> in my console window i see: /192.168.1.104: [MOTD]Maxarias - Bagels[/MOTD][AD]127.0.1.1:57011[/AD]
#5066 [19:26] <Aikar> 104 is her local ip
#5067 [19:26] <Boreeas> Can you connect to her via direct connect?
#5068 [19:27] <Aikar> nope, because its bound to 127.0.1.1
#5069 [19:27] <Aikar> need a 0.0.0.0 bind :/
#5070 [19:27] <Aikar> or just a 192.168
#5071 [19:28] <Boreeas> Beyond fixing it with a mod, I see no way to fix that without waiting for a bug fix
#5072 [19:28] <Aikar> no java flag to force bind?
#5073 [19:28] <Boreeas> I don't think so. Try asking ##java on freenode
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#5075 [19:28] <Boreeas> I can confirm that problem on my computer, and I know that it works on Win7
#5076 [19:29] <viveleroi> where can I send bugs? sounds on mac are totally misbehaving
#5077 [19:29] * MrTubs95 [MrTubs95@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5078 [19:29] <MrTubs95> can somebody help me?
#5079 [19:29] <PixieNinja23> zen: is there anything I can try next?
#5080 [19:30] <MrTubs95> is there anybody here that can help me
#5081 [19:30] <MrTubs95> hello...
#5082 [19:30] <Aikar> viveleroi: its likely a LWJGL issue, I have a setup I use for linux thats a mixture of 2.8 for input, but 2.6? i believe for sound, that fixes the input issues but leaves sound alone, http://aikar.co/updatedengine.zip
#5083 [19:30] <zen> Sigh it's an odd thing pixie
#5084 [19:30] <zen> MrTubs95, not without knowing the problem
#5085 [19:30] <Aikar> when i updated sound to 2.8 on LWJGL for linux i also had sound issues
#5086 [19:31] <Aikar> which is why i now run mixed versions
#5087 [19:31] <MrTubs95> ok i have a good computer and i cant play on a render distance above short without lagging?
#5088 [19:31] <PixieNinja23> zen: it sure it. Most people suggest emptying my .minecraft folder will fix it, but it doesn't make a difference - it's a new install, and all that is created in there is a bin folder.
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#5090 [19:32] <tisme> how do i update my server?
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#5092 [19:32] <zen> ??> MrTubs95 win/dxdiag
#5093 [19:32] <Boreeas> tisme: Replace the server.jar with the new one
#5094 [19:32] <VoxelHead> MrTubs95: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#5095 [19:33] <VoxelHead> MrTubs95: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#5096 [19:33] <zen> PixieNinja23, something is blocking the download, you need to find out what
#5097 [19:33] <nila1998> hi can u help me
#5098 [19:33] <nila1998> hi can u help me
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#5100 [19:33] <PixieNinja23> zen: I'd love to, but I've no idea how to figure that out - no other error message appears.
#5101 [19:33] <nila1998> #minecrafthelp
#5102 [19:34] <MrTubs95> Where is the win key?
#5103 [19:34] <nila1998> #minecrafthelp [ ]
#5104 [19:34] <Boreeas> ??> MrTubs95 win/key
#5105 [19:34] <VoxelHead> MrTubs95: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#5106 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/key
#5107 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/key/image
#5108 [19:34] <VoxelHead> win/key/image: WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#5109 [19:34] <Boreeas> ??> nila1998 telepathy
#5110 [19:34] <VoxelHead> nila1998: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#5111 [19:35] <nila1998> with the mine craft launcher
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#5113 [19:35] <nila1998> it will not open and i re insalled it over and over nothing is working
#5114 [19:36] <Aikar> Boreeas: heh, i ssh tunneled to her PC haha
#5115 [19:36] <tisme> how do i keep my world from the old server when i update?
#5116 [19:36] <Aikar> >>> ssh -L10000:127.0.1.1:57011 mia
#5117 [19:36] <Boreeas> Aikar: I guess that works, too? :P
#5118 [19:36] <zen> tisme, if you simply replace the old server jar/exe then launch it again the world will not change
#5119 [19:37] <MrTubs95> wat is this going to do?
#5120 [19:37] <nila1998> #minecraft help
#5121 [19:37] <zen> tell us about your PC
#5122 [19:37] <Boreeas> MrTubs95: It will tell us about your hardware and your driver versions
#5123 [19:37] <zen> so we can see if there might be any problems
#5124 [19:37] <nila1998> me
#5125 [19:38] <nila1998> r u talking to me zen
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#5127 [19:38] <skipinrap> hello
#5128 [19:38] <zen> nila1998, saying it's not working does not help us
#5129 [19:39] <nila1998> if so i got a hp pavillion g7 4gb ram A4 processer dual core
#5130 [19:39] <zen> Tell us what you are doing exactly
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#5132 [19:39] <bielo> help me please
#5133 [19:39] <PixieNinja23> zen: I can play Minecraft classic via my browser on www.minecraft.net, but it's just the installer that doesn't want to play it seems.
#5134 [19:39] <MrTubs95> i dont feel safe giving out all of that information over the internet
#5135 [19:39] <MrTubs95> haha
#5136 [19:39] <zen> MrTubs95, theres nothing on it that will give us any way of getting access to your PC
#5137 [19:40] <nila1998> amd radeon graphics
#5138 [19:40] <bielo> i see herobrine on my server
#5139 [19:40] <Boreeas> MrTubs95: There's nothing important in that, really, but if you want to doublecheck before you give it to us, feel free to
#5140 [19:40] <MrTubs95> just wat r the basics u need to know
#5141 [19:40] <zen> nila1998, tell us what you are doing
#5142 [19:40] <MrTubs95> i can give those to u
#5143 [19:40] <Boreeas> bielo: This joke is no longer funny and I ask you to refrain from making them
#5144 [19:40] <bielo> serious
#5145 [19:40] <zen> PixieNinja23, the classic version is very different to the main game
#5146 [19:41] <Boreeas> MrTubs95: The first section and the section about your graphic card and video drivers
#5147 [19:41] <zen> bielo, oh kewl good for you
#5148 [19:41] <bielo> serious i see herobrine on my server
#5149 [19:41] <Boreeas> bielo: You read the release notes, right? It's removed, the third time already.
#5150 [19:41] <skipinrap> when i just double click minecraft it works perfectly but when i press login it says do you want to update? i say not now but then it starts loading but then it wont work
#5151 [19:42] <tisme> ok so just downloaded a new exe form .net and loaded it and it was a whole new world...how do i get my world back?
#5152 [19:42] <zen> skipinrap, by won't work you mean it black screens?
#5153 [19:42] <PixieNinja23> zen: evidently so. Is there anything I can do next? Any resource I can scour, any method of getting some kind of error code out of the launcher? Any way of manually downloading what is needed? Don't want to buy the game if I can't get it running in the first place!
#5154 [19:42] <bielo> i´m not kidding
#5155 [19:42] * Boreeas kicked bielo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ielo :Okay then.)
#5156 [19:42] <nila1998> i duble click the minecraft launcher and nothing happens i wait 10min stiil nothing happens so i go to %appdata% delete all of that and reinstall minecraft still the same problem next i delete the launcher and re intsall it and still the same thing happens
#5157 [19:42] <MrTubs95> its windows 7 home premium 64 bit 4096 mb ram
#5158 [19:43] <skipinrap> no it sarts loading but when it gets to done loading everything just stops
#5159 [19:43] <skipinrap> starts*
#5160 [19:43] <zen> PixieNinja23, oh so you haven't bought the game? hmm not sure
#5161 [19:43] <Boreeas> MrTubs95: Really, you will need to paste the entirety of the sections I mentioned
#5162 [19:43] <PixieNinja23> zen: nope, trying to get the demo up and running. Is there anywhere else that may be able to offer assistance?
#5163 [19:44] <nila1998> yea
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#5165 [19:45] <skipinrap> zen?
#5166 [19:45] <laura> looking for advice on server upgrade to 1.3.1 from 1.2.5 on freebsd. stopped mc, updated jar, restarted mc, but unable to connect, any tips?
#5167 [19:45] <laura> bsd 9 to be specific
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#5170 [19:46] <MrTubs95> i just dont feel safe giving all of that out idk wat it is
#5171 [19:46] <MrTubs95> i just dont feel safe giving all of that out idk wat it is
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#5173 [19:47] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: There is nothing private about that information, but if you refuse to help us to help you, we cannot help you.
#5174 [19:47] <zen> MrTubs95, it's just information about what hardware is in your PC and what drivers are there to run the hardware
#5175 [19:48] <Rikairchy> it helps in seeing if any outdated hardware/drivers could be at the root of the issue
#5176 [19:48] <Rikairchy> its standard tech support for just about everything I've seen
#5177 [19:49] <Rikairchy> laura: is it a local server/
#5178 [19:49] <Rikairchy> ?*
#5179 [19:49] <Rikairchy> or on a vps
#5180 [19:49] <laura> not a vps, dedicated system in a colo
#5181 [19:49] <Rikairchy> orly?
#5182 [19:49] <laura> yes really
#5183 [19:49] <Rikairchy> why a dedi just for minecraft?
#5184 [19:49] <MrTubs95> http://pastebin.com/FEPZvhH0
#5185 [19:50] <laura> because I wanted to?
#5186 [19:50] <Rikairchy> :o
#5187 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: You have come here for help. We need to see that information so that suitable help for your situation can be given.
#5188 [19:50] <laura> there are other plans for it, this is the only one for now
#5189 [19:50] <Rikairchy> ohh
#5190 [19:50] <laura> regardless, that should have worked, right?
#5191 [19:50] <Rikairchy> might I suggest OpenVZ for virtualization?
#5192 [19:50] <Rikairchy> you can SSH into the server
#5193 [19:50] <Rikairchy> and see what happens when a client connects
#5194 [19:50] <Rikairchy> correct?
#5195 [19:50] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: All of the information please.
#5196 [19:50] <laura> I am not interested in virtualization, I already have ssh
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#5198 [19:50] <Rikairchy> erm
#5199 [19:51] <Rikairchy> SSH is different than virtualization...
#5200 [19:51] <laura> I know this
#5201 [19:51] <laura> so this is logged?
#5202 [19:51] <laura> the connection error?
#5203 [19:51] <Rikairchy> when a client tries connecting, what does the console say?
#5204 [19:51] <laura> ok gotcha, we don't have console up because of a script
#5205 [19:51] * AG_Clinton hosts dozens of dedicated servers just for minecraft.
#5205 [19:51] <laura> I'll check that, thanks
#5206 [19:51] <Rikairchy> you should have screen in the script, right?
#5207 [19:52] <MrTubs95> :/
#5208 [19:52] <laura> yeah console is not enlightening
#5209 [19:52] <laura> even wiht debug on
#5210 [19:52] <laura> just shows connection dropped
#5211 [19:52] <Rikairchy> you shouldnt need debug
#5212 [19:52] <Rikairchy> any reason listed?
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#5214 [19:52] <laura> only connection dropped
#5215 [19:52] <Rikairchy> checked the server.properties and see if a whitelist is on
#5216 [19:52] <laura> white list is not on
#5217 [19:52] <Rikairchy> is it minecraft or bukkit
#5218 [19:52] <laura> minecraft, no bukkit, no mods
#5219 [19:53] <popalop> um i updated minecraft and i cant log on to any servers?
#5220 [19:53] <Rikairchy> interesting
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#5222 [19:53] <Rikairchy> hold on a sec laura, im going to check something
#5223 [19:53] <DiskDaemon> ?? popalop smp/servers
#5224 [19:53] <laura> cannot connect if it's a new world either
#5225 [19:53] <hstarbuck9898> help
#5226 [19:54] <hstarbuck9898> help
#5227 [19:54] <Rikairchy> ?? hstarbuck9898 ask
#5228 [19:54] <DiskDaemon> ??> popalop smp/servers
#5229 [19:54] <hstarbuck9898> sos
#5230 [19:54] <VoxelHead> popalop: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#5231 [19:54] <popalop> like servers i get ofline with other people?
#5232 [19:54] <VoxelHead> popalop: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#5233 [19:54] <Rikairchy> hstarbuck9898
#5234 [19:54] <Rikairchy> stop spamming for help
#5235 [19:54] <MrTubs95> just do i need more memory in my minecraft or what
#5236 [19:54] <Rikairchy> and just say what the issue is
#5237 [19:54] <popalop> i know but it wount let me join them
#5238 [19:54] <Rikairchy> MrTubs95: we cannot tell without the ENTIRE dxdiag
#5239 [19:54] <Rikairchy> popalop: are you all running the same version of minecraft?
#5240 [19:54] <MrTubs95> ok well nvm thanks
#5241 [19:54] <Rikairchy> laura: what OS are you running?
#5242 [19:55] <laura> OS x 10.7
#5243 [19:55] <popalop> idk i just updated mien
#5244 [19:55] <laura> os on server is bsd 9
#5245 [19:55] <popalop> mine*
#5246 [19:55] <Rikairchy> oh
#5247 [19:55] <Rikairchy> bsd
#5248 [19:55] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Without that, the best we can offer is that you should follow all of the information in http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/343030-minecraft-speedoptimization-guide-v-23-5-updated-on-may-24/
#5249 [19:55] <laura> yes bsd
#5250 [19:55] <Rikairchy> MrTubs95 would you feel better if I posted mine?
#5251 [19:55] <Rikairchy> I've never toyed with *BSD
#5252 [19:55] <MrTubs95> no lol
#5253 [19:55] <Rikairchy> except a shell....
#5254 [19:56] <popalop> any help anyone?
#5255 [19:56] <laura> fair enough, thanks for the attempt :)
#5256 [19:56] <Rikairchy> MrTubs95: either accept help and do what's asked, or accept that we cannot help
#5257 [19:56] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: Let's start again. How would you like us to help you?
#5258 [19:56] <Rikairchy> any updates to IPTABLES or anything?
#5259 [19:56] <MrTubs95> can i just read the chat going on now
#5260 [19:57] <Rikairchy> what purpose will that serve...?
#5261 [19:57] <Rikairchy> I wish I had better internet speeds >.>
#5262 [19:57] <MrTubs95> it wont
#5263 [19:57] <Rikairchy> my system is good enough to host a decent server
#5264 [19:57] <MrTubs95> u have a server?
#5265 [19:57] <Rikairchy> several
#5266 [19:58] <MrTubs95> do u have one running right now that i can get on
#5267 [19:58] <Rikairchy> No.
#5268 [19:58] <MrTubs95> ok then
#5269 [19:58] <DiskDaemon> It will help to reassure MrTubs95 about the wide variety of issues that occur, the very different specific solutions to each of them, and that we have some idea about how to deal with them
#5270 [19:58] <Rikairchy> if he wants security, he can try the server at 127.0.01
#5271 [19:58] <Rikairchy> 127.0.0.1
#5272 [19:59] <DiskDaemon> MrTubs95: You're welcome to read through a vast collection of troubleshooting information that we have in our tame bot here too, over at http://tinypaste.com/81717f5c
#5273 [20:00] <Rikairchy> ragequit.
#5274 [20:00] <Rikairchy> ugh now im bored
#5275 [20:00] <Rikairchy> and wanna toy with *bsd in a vps...
#5276 [20:00] <DiskDaemon> oh well, poor janice
#5277 [20:00] <Rikairchy> ?
#5278 [20:02] <Rikairchy> i should spend more time here
#5279 [20:02] <Rikairchy> to get one of dem + things
#5280 [20:02] <Rikairchy> and eventually a !
#5281 [20:03] <zen> I don't seem to be getting +v any time soon:p
#5282 [20:03] <Rikairchy> I wonder how long I've been here, off and on...
#5283 [20:04] <Rikairchy> http://puu.sh/NMLD <--- in two months
#5284 [20:05] <Rikairchy> this rule thing would have been good when that french dude wanted help using an ancient 1.3.3 launcher with 1.1...
#5285 [20:05] <zen> that would not work for me, my PC is on 24/7 part from 2 weeks last week when iwas on vacation
#5286 [20:06] <Rikairchy> I'm usually on it during the day, whenever I can get back to my room
#5287 [20:06] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 should stop idling and talk >.>
#5288 [20:07] <Rikairchy> "yak-shaving services"
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#5290 [20:07] <Rikairchy> ...?
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#5293 [20:08] <Bthoveen> Hello?
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#5295 [20:08] <DopeGhoti> Cordial greetings!
#5296 [20:08] <Rikairchy> sup
#5297 [20:08] <nerf_herder15> hello
#5298 [20:08] <Rikairchy> sup
#5299 [20:08] <Bthoveen> I've never used an IRC before...and I need help with MC.
#5300 [20:08] <nerf_herder15> I need some help If im in the right place?
#5301 [20:09] <DopeGhoti> ?? ask
#5302 [20:09] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#5303 [20:09] <Rikairchy> Bthoveen: you're doing better than most
#5304 [20:09] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#5305 [20:09] <Bthoveen> I've had trouble updating my MC lately...it will start to download the necessary files and then it just stops...I have to close the window, log back in, and try again.
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#5307 [20:10] <steelsticks> HELP
#5308 [20:10] <Smanly> -_-
#5309 [20:10] <Bthoveen> the last time took me 2 days before I finally got them to upload
#5310 [20:10] <Smanly> No
#5311 [20:10] <Smanly> Dont yell at me
#5312 [20:10] <Rikairchy> Bthoveen: what antivirus do you use?
#5313 [20:10] <Rikairchy> steelsticks: thats equivalent to running to a random person and screaming in their face.
#5314 [20:10] <Bthoveen> clamwin, spybot, and avgfree
#5315 [20:10] <Rikairchy> why clamwin and AVG?
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#5317 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. You can temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#5318 [20:10] <Bthoveen> free
#5319 [20:10] <Rikairchy> you should only run one or the other
#5320 [20:10] <Rikairchy> not both
#5321 [20:10] <ngc0202> How do I get infinite fire spread on my 1.3.1 vanilla server?
#5322 [20:10] <Bthoveen> oh
#5323 [20:10] <steelsticks> son of a bitch
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#5325 [20:11] <Rikairchy> steelsticks: language.
#5326 [20:11] <Bthoveen> iv
#5327 [20:11] <Bthoveen> I've never had problems before
#5328 [20:11] <Rikairchy> ngc0202: should be an option in server.properties
#5329 [20:11] <steelsticks> my minecraft BROKE PLEASE HELP
#5330 [20:11] <nerf_herder15> well, when I try to connect to a multiplayer game I ALWAYS get either End of Stream error and the other is "Internal exception: Java.netSocketEception: Connection Reset" Thise almost never happeed before I updated
#5331 [20:11] <Rikairchy> ?? caps
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#5333 [20:11] <Rikairchy> usux
#5334 [20:11] <steelsticks> nerf harder
#5335 [20:11] <Rikairchy> nerf_herder15: try a force update
#5336 [20:11] <ngc0202> Rikairchy: it's not... :(
#5337 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> steelsticks: The acoustics are perfectly fine in here. Don't shout.
#5338 [20:12] <nerf_herder15> I just updated??
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#5340 [20:12] <Bthoveen> I did that as well...that's what started the problem the last time...
#5341 [20:12] <Rikairchy> ngc0202: try fire-spread=true at the bottom
#5342 [20:12] <Rikairchy> nerf_herder15: try again
#5343 [20:12] <nerf_herder15> ok
#5344 [20:12] <steelsticks> nerf herder the same thing happened to me
#5345 [20:12] <Rikairchy> Bthoveen: run only one
#5346 [20:12] <Rikairchy> not both
#5347 [20:12] <tisme> ok cant seems to figure it out...how do i keep my world when i update my server?
#5348 [20:12] <Rikairchy> tisme: you can simply copy the world folder to another directory
#5349 [20:12] <Bthoveen> I will try to disable the antivirus and try again...thanks for the advice...I did not think of that...if it doesn't work, I will come back...thanks again!
#5350 [20:12] <Rikairchy> then update, and copy back afterwards
#5351 [20:12] <Rikairchy> Bthoveen
#5352 [20:12] <Smanly> Are you two running on 1.3 and trying to connect to an outdated server?
#5353 [20:12] <Rikairchy> use only one...
#5354 [20:13] <Rikairchy> uninstall the other one
#5355 [20:13] <Bthoveen> Yes, rikairchy, I will try that as well
#5356 [20:13] <Bthoveen> thank you
#5357 [20:13] <nerf_herder15> i ckicked force update now what?
#5358 [20:13] <Rikairchy> let it update
#5359 [20:13] <nerf_herder15> its not going to its already updated -_-
#5360 [20:13] <Rikairchy> yes it will
#5361 [20:13] <Smanly> nerf_herder15: what version is the server?
#5362 [20:13] <Rikairchy> hence "force" update.
#5363 [20:13] <ngc0202> Rikairchy: Ok, now how do I have the server update the server.properties without stopping it?
#5364 [20:14] <steelsticks> the internal unhadle expextation bullshit i need help
#5365 [20:14] <Rikairchy> uh again dude
#5366 [20:14] <Rikairchy> language.
#5367 [20:14] <Smanly> steelsticks: what version is the server?
#5368 [20:14] <Rikairchy> please. Some are offended by it
#5369 [20:14] <steelsticks> 1.3.1
#5370 [20:14] <Smanly> Are you sure?
#5371 [20:14] <nerf_herder15> ii clicked it and logged in and still no update
#5372 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> steelsticks: What is the full error message that you get?
#5373 [20:15] <Smanly> ngc0202: You cant
#5374 [20:15] <ngc0202> that's silly
#5375 [20:15] <Smanly> It needs to be restarted
#5376 [20:15] <Smanly> No its not.
#5377 [20:15] <ngc0202> ... Yes it is
#5378 [20:15] <Smanly> HOw?
#5379 [20:16] <ngc0202> How isn't it?
#5380 [20:16] <steelsticks> internal.expectations java.net.socketexception connection reset
#5381 [20:16] <Smanly> steelsticks: what makes you think the server is ont 1.3.1?
#5382 [20:16] <steelsticks> its says updated on the forums
#5383 [20:17] <Smanly> Are you sure?
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#5385 [20:17] <steelsticks> ill go check again hold on
#5386 [20:17] <Smanly> What kind of a server is it?
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#5388 [20:18] <steelsticks> yup. 1.3,1 still i get 72.213.180.239
#5389 [20:18] <xy> steelsticks: your symptoms look like you are trying to connect to a server running craftbukkit-1.2.5-R4.0 or earlier (clients do only get "Outdated server!" on R5.0 and later)
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#5391 [20:19] <steelsticks> there are no servers out that run that 1.3.1
#5392 [20:19] * SgtTraveler|afk [SgtTraveler|afk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5393 [20:19] <Builder> anybody avaiable
#5394 [20:19] <DopeGhoti> Sorry, I'm committed.
#5395 [20:19] <xy> Builder: just ask.
#5396 [20:20] <xy> Builder: asking if you can ask something is pointless
#5397 [20:20] <Builder> Im looking to get my server fixed
#5398 [20:20] <steelsticks> no i am getting a Bad Login?
#5399 [20:20] <Builder> its saying failed to bind to port
#5400 [20:20] <steelsticks> now*
#5401 [20:20] * Bthoveen [Bthoveen@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5402 [20:20] <Bthoveen> Okay! I'm back!
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#5404 [20:20] <Builder> The ports an stuff are all correct and everything
#5405 [20:21] <Bthoveen> Not that most folks care about such things...:)
#5406 [20:21] <xy> Builder: Is it possible that another instance of the server already is running?
#5407 [20:21] <Builder> Nope i checked
#5408 [20:21] <xy> Builder: what are you running the server on? your local computer?
#5409 [20:21] <Builder> Ive tried rebooting also
#5410 [20:21] <Bthoveen> Rikairchy?
#5411 [20:21] <Builder> yea
#5412 [20:21] <Builder> off 1.3.1
#5413 [20:21] <Rikairchy> yes Bthoveen?
#5414 [20:21] <xy> Builder: uuh, which port is defined in server.properties
#5415 [20:21] <Builder> 1 sec
#5416 [20:22] <Guest> Guys, I'm having some trouble trying to running MC in my new laptop...
#5417 [20:22] <xy> Guest: Please elaborate.
#5418 [20:22] <Bthoveen> THANK YOU! You were right. Avg was messing it up. I truly appreciate the help. (and sorry for my excited caps)
#5419 [20:22] <Rikairchy> awesome
#5420 [20:22] <Rikairchy> just pick one or the other
#5421 [20:22] <Smanly> Who hasnt been helped?
#5422 [20:22] <Rikairchy> do not have both installed
#5423 [20:22] <Rikairchy> they interfere
#5424 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> ?? gpu/discrete
#5425 [20:22] <Builder> it says 25565
#5426 [20:22] <steelsticks> now i am getting Faillure to Login: bad login
#5427 [20:22] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some laptops have 'discrete GPUs', which detect when games and the like are being run, and switch from the weaker GPU (usually Intel) to the strong (usually AMD or NVIDIA). Unfortunately, the mode detection is not foolproof, and Minecraft is often not detected as a graphics-intensive program, even though it is.
#5428 [20:22] <Rikairchy> Smanly: i need help :(
#5429 [20:22] <VoxelHead> gpu/discrete: Some possible fixes for this are installing a more capable Intel GPU driver, or changing a BIOS setting to always use the better GPU. Details on each of these options can be found at http://bit.ly/ORHfpX
#5430 [20:22] <Guest> It gives me a black screen freeze where it should show the mojang load screen
#5431 [20:22] <Bthoveen> I'm off to moderate on my server now...good bye and happy gaming everyone!
#5432 [20:22] <Smanly> Adios
#5433 [20:23] <Smanly> With, Rikairchy? lol
#5434 [20:23] <Rikairchy> Guest: try a force update
#5435 [20:23] <Rikairchy> Smanly: not killing people
#5436 [20:23] <Smanly> :D
#5437 [20:23] <steelsticks> Help i'am getting failure to login in: bad login -,-
#5438 [20:23] <mt357> Hi, I just updated my Minecraft acount, and I can no longer log into any multiplayer servers. It gives me a message reading, "CONNECTION LOST Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset". How do I fix this?
#5439 [20:23] <Guest> I already tryied to force update and also to reinstall Java (Java 6 and Java 7) still not working,,,
#5440 [20:23] <DopeGhoti> ??> mt357 smp/recentupdate
#5441 [20:23] <VoxelHead> mt357: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#5442 [20:23] <steelsticks> mt357
#5443 [20:23] <VoxelHead> mt357: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#5444 [20:24] <Rikairchy> i have a magic wand
#5445 [20:24] <Rikairchy> but people just laugh at it :(
#5446 [20:24] <xy> Rikairchy: twss :3
#5447 [20:24] <Smanly> steelsticks: Someone must have logged in with your account.
#5448 [20:24] <steelsticks> no i made it today
#5449 [20:24] <Smanly> Unless you let someone use your account. I suggest you change your pass
#5450 [20:24] <Rikairchy> xy: dear god I hope not
#5451 [20:24] <mt357> Okay, thank you very much! That makes sense
#5452 [20:24] <Rikairchy> if she has a magic wand....
#5453 [20:25] <steelsticks> no one knows my password i made it like 30 mins ago..
#5454 [20:25] <xy> steelsticks: Are you using the minecraft launcher from minecraft.net or a custom one?
#5455 [20:25] <steelsticks> minecraft.exe from minecraft.net
#5456 [20:25] <Smanly> steelsticks: then all you need to do is relog into MC.
#5457 [20:25] <steelsticks> okay hold on
#5458 [20:25] <mt357> A little rude, VoxelHead, I just needed to know. Thanks though, I guess
#5459 [20:26] <Rikairchy> lol
#5460 [20:26] <Rikairchy> VoxelHead is a bot
#5461 [20:26] <Rikairchy> it does not speak
#5462 [20:26] <xy> mt357: VoxelHead is not a human, it is a program which can be used to call factoids.
#5463 [20:26] <Rikairchy> unless it is commanded to
#5464 [20:26] <Guest> I can't get any version of MC to work... They all give me a black screen before the mojang load screen. Here's what the Java console says: "UnsatisfiedLinkError [...] \lwjgl.dll: Can't find dependent libraries"
#5465 [20:26] <Rikairchy> Guest: what OS are you using?
#5466 [20:26] <Guest> Windows XP SP 3 32 Bits
#5467 [20:27] <xy> Guest: Do you have the correct graphics drivers installed?
#5468 [20:27] <mt357> Lol, well it's pretty rude. But thank you
#5469 [20:27] <Guest> I already tryuied force update and reinstall java
#5470 [20:27] <Guest> I have the latest graphic drivers for my OS
#5471 [20:28] <Rikairchy> do you have JRE or JDK?
#5472 [20:28] <Guest> JRE
#5473 [20:29] <Rikairchy> is it a vanilla minecraft?
#5474 [20:29] <Rikairchy> is it a vanilla minecraft?
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#5476 [20:29] <Guest> It seems like my Java cant recognize the LWJGL libraries
#5477 [20:29] <steelsticks> xy
#5478 [20:29] <xy> steelsticks
#5479 [20:30] <steelsticks> I LOVE YOU
#5480 [20:30] <Rikairchy> creepy.
#5481 [20:30] <steelsticks> tthanks again
#5482 [20:30] <Rikairchy> Guest: are you using the EXE or the .jar file
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#5484 [20:31] <xy> Smanly: actually it was you who solved steelsticks' problem, lol
#5485 [20:31] <tisme> ok so copying the world folder did not allow me to save my world on the new server...now what?
#5486 [20:31] <Rikairchy> it should have
#5487 [20:31] <Guest> I tryied the EXE and a custom BAT to open the jar file and nothing works
#5488 [20:31] <xy> tisme: did you copy the world folder back?
#5489 [20:31] <tisme> back to where?
#5490 [20:32] <Rikairchy> from where you copied it from...
#5491 [20:32] <xy> back into the server's directory
#5492 [20:32] <xy> (stop the server first)
#5493 [20:32] <Guest> when I delete the .minecraft folder and run the force update it only put the bin folder there and the game still frooze in the black screen
#5494 [20:33] <Rikairchy> Guest: make sure your antivirus isn't interfering
#5495 [20:33] <xy> Guest: Your system is missing some important library (probably some .dll file) to run minecraft.
#5496 [20:33] <Guest> I have no antivirus program
#5497 [20:33] <Guest> this is a brand new installation of windows XP
#5498 [20:33] <Rikairchy> have you run the updates?
#5499 [20:33] <Guest> also I tryied even reinstall windows and the problem persists
#5500 [20:34] <Guest> xy: thats what I'm guessing too! but how do I solve that??
#5501 [20:34] <tisme> ok so stilla whole new world...my next question would be...if i opened another server before copying my world folder would it have rewrite the world folder?
#5502 [20:34] <xy> Guest: run Windows Update
#5503 [20:34] <Guest> I belive its something with the LWJGL libraries
#5504 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> hang on, that lwjgl file is downloaded as a part of the minecraft update procedure
#5505 [20:35] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest win/reinst
#5506 [20:35] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#5507 [20:35] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#5508 [20:35] <Guest> but all the LWJGL dlls and jars files are where they are supposed to be!!
#5509 [20:35] <xy> DiskDaemon: he already tried that. Aug02[02:32:23]<Guest> when I delete the .minecraft folder and run the force update it only put the bin folder there and the game still frooze in the black screen
#5510 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Can you pleae pastebin the error message after performing that reintall
#5511 [20:36] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#5512 [20:36] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#5513 [20:37] * DiskDaemon strikes the S key several times, work damn you.
#5513 [20:37] <Guest> I can post the msg I get from Java Console when trying to open the brownser version (becouse I dont know how to open Java console with the standard version of MC)
#5514 [20:38] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Here's how - http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#5515 [20:39] <Guest> http://pastebin.com/3kGC5vMe
#5516 [20:40] <tisme> if i opened another server before copying my world folder would it have rewrite the world folder?
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#5518 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Was the update able to fully complete, or did you have to cancel it at some stage?
#5519 [20:41] <Guest> At first I through it was an MC installation problem. But since even the brownser classic version isnt working I found out its probably a problem with the LWJGL library...
#5520 [20:42] <Guest> DiskDaemon: when I force update it runs till the end and then give me a black screen where the mojang loading screen was expected
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#5523 [20:42] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Your game is also not in the standard .minecraft/ location in your user profile. Are you using something different from the normal minecraft launcher?
#5524 [20:42] <tisme> if i opened another server before copying my world folder would it have rewritten the world folder?
#5525 [20:43] <xramza> Hi, i was just wondering what the issue is with my LAN world. Anytime i attempt to enter my friend's world, the connection times out.
#5526 [20:43] <Guest> That log I sent you was from the brownser classic version. My game files are in my .minecraft folder.
#5527 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> tisme: yes it would
#5528 [20:44] <tisme> well....crap...thank you
#5529 [20:44] <Guest> Guys, I have EXACTLY the same problem as this guy: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1364956-minecraft-black-screen-s/
#5530 [20:44] <Guest> Too bad that thread don't have a solution yet...
#5531 [20:44] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Can I please see the error log from the non-classic one then.
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#5533 [20:45] <luna-tic> hello?
#5534 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> Guest: You are told that "the working directory could not be created" ?
#5535 [20:45] <Rikairchy> hi
#5536 [20:45] <DiskDaemon> Guest: If not, you don't have exactly the same situation.
#5537 [20:45] <Selcath> Has anybody found a solution to the brown menu of death?
#5538 [20:45] <xramza> Any help?
#5539 [20:45] <luna-tic> you a support person?
#5540 [20:45] <Rikairchy> we all are
#5541 [20:46] <Rikairchy> in our own ways
#5542 [20:46] <Rikairchy> I support their sanity by lighting people on fire.
#5543 [20:46] <Guest> Let me check that, 1 sec
#5544 [20:46] <DiskDaemon> Guest: We do not support the classic version here. Please show us the crash report from the normal version of Minecraft.
#5545 [20:47] <Guest> Alright, I'll post it as soon as I reinstall it and figure out how to get those logs... I'm already working on that, just a minute
#5546 [20:48] <Rikairchy> clarjon1
#5547 [20:49] <xramza> Let me reiterate my question because i don't think anyone saw my chat.
#5548 [20:49] <xramza> i was just wondering what the issue is with my LAN world. Anytime i attempt to enter my friend's world, the connection times out, and if he tries to conect to my world, it doesn't show up on his server list.
#5549 [20:49] <Rikairchy> networking issues
#5550 [20:49] <Rikairchy> check firewalls, etc
#5551 [20:50] <xramza> Ok, i'll mess around and see if i can get the connection through. Thanks.
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#5554 [20:53] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Instructions on getting a crash report are found at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#5555 [20:53] <DiskDaemon> Guest: If you have any troubles with that, please let us know.
#5556 [20:54] <Guest> Thank you, I'm still working on that (took me a long time becouse I had to download everything again)
#5557 [20:55] * Grim_Reaper [Grim_Reaper@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5558 [20:56] <DiskDaemon> Guest: What I have found to be the easiest solution though, is to create a shortcut for minecraft.exe and to replace the shortcut's target with: "java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#5559 [20:56] <erik_> try to login and it says login failed HELP!!!!!
#5560 [20:56] <Barbosa> Erm. I've been getting an issue with updating Minecraft. It'll update to 91%, then stop and give me an error: "failed to retrieve minecraft.jar". Can I get any help with that? x:
#5561 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> Or, if java cannot be found, to instead use (with doublequotes in this example) "%programfiles%\java\jre7\bin\java" ...
#5562 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> Barbosa: That sounds like your antivirus program blocking some files that it needs
#5563 [20:57] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#5564 [20:59] <Barbosa> Turned off all of my security and it still didn't work. Still stopped at 91%.
#5565 [21:00] <Barbosa> And I tried to redownload minecraft. But after selecting the file, it continued to say, "Connection timed out."
#5566 [21:01] <DiskDaemon> Barbosa: It may be difficult to help you, if you're unable to successfully download the minecraft.exe file from the web site.
#5567 [21:01] <Guest> DiskDaemon, alright I managed to do it (I did the method 2 in that guide) and it gives me a msg in my windows native language saying that it wasn't able to find and load the main class lwjgl.jar
#5568 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Please pastebin the error report for us
#5569 [21:03] <Guest> but the file exists!! its at .minecraft/bin/lwjgl.jar
#5570 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Problem solved then :)
#5571 [21:03] <Guest> it makes no sense
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#5573 [21:03] <ultimatespec> HELP.
#5574 [21:03] <Guest> how is it solved?
#5575 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> We need more information in order to be able to help any further
#5576 [21:03] <ultimatespec> my minecraft crashed cause of an internal error?
#5577 [21:04] <Guest> DiskDaemon: ?
#5578 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> I was making a joke. A bad one, but there it was.
#5579 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Where is your minecraft.exe file currently located?
#5580 [21:06] <Rikairchy> in mah pants
#5581 [21:08] <Guest> http://pastebin.com/hwJxLVkY
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#5583 [21:08] <Builder> why do i keep getting failed to bind to port for my smp
#5584 [21:09] <Guest> DiskDaemon: check the pastebin I just sent
#5585 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Let's use your minecraft.exe file this time
#5586 [21:09] <Guest> alright let me try the other method
#5587 [21:09] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Where is your minecraft.exe file located?
#5588 [21:09] <Guest> .minecraft
#5589 [21:10] * DiskDaemon gives up until Guest decides to follow instructions
#5589 [21:10] <Builder> I dont even see one man
#5590 [21:11] <Guest> the other method didn't worked that's why I sent you that other log
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#5593 [21:11] <Guest> I'm still trying here, I want to do exactly as you tell me
#5594 [21:11] <Guest> :(
#5595 [21:11] <DiskDaemon> Guest: What didn't go right with Method 1?
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#5597 [21:12] <Guest> With no files selected (left click on background to deselect), Shift+Right Click anywhere in background of the window, and choose "Open command window here" --> theres no such option as "open command window here"
#5598 [21:13] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Allow me to help you with that then.
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#5600 [21:13] <Guest> thats what didn't go right
#5601 [21:13] <DiskDaemon> Where is your minecraft.exe file located?
#5602 [21:13] <Ushiboy> hello
#5603 [21:13] <DiskDaemon> Guest: For the last time, where is your minecraft.exe file located?
#5604 [21:14] <Guest> %appdata%/.minecraft
#5605 [21:14] <Guest> I told you that before! its in the .minecraft folder
#5606 [21:14] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Please move your minecraft.exe to your desktop
#5607 [21:14] <Guest> alright
#5608 [21:14] <Guest> done
#5609 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> Good, now open up a command prompt, and change directory to your desktop
#5610 [21:15] <Guest> how do I change the directory?
#5611 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> On english machines that's done by opening the command prompt, and typing: cd desktop
#5612 [21:16] <DiskDaemon> It will be something similar in your own language
#5613 [21:16] <Guest> alright
#5614 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> We should now confirm that the minecraft.exe file is found in that folder, by typing: dir minecraft.exe
#5615 [21:17] <Guest> alright...
#5616 [21:17] <DopeGhoti> !topic add 1.3 seems to break server console color codes with 'say'.
#5617 [21:18] <Corin> 10/10
#5618 [21:18] <Corin> Gg Mojang
#5619 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> What is the file size of the minecraft.exe file that you see there?
#5620 [21:19] <Guest> nevermind, I belive I managed to get the msg error log
#5621 [21:19] <Guest> Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Perfis\MyUsername\Dados de aplicativos\.minecraft\bin\natives\lwjgl.dll: Can't find dependent libraries
#5622 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> okay
#5623 [21:20] <DiskDaemon> The minecraft.exe file doesn't provide that sort of error message
#5624 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> Guest: So please, what is the filesize that you see, when you perform the following comamnnd prompt command: dir minecraft.exe
#5625 [21:21] <Guest> 257kb
#5626 [21:21] <Guest> but isnt that msg the couse of my error?
#5627 [21:21] <Guest> i found that in java console
#5628 [21:21] <Guest> im reading some other pages online too
#5629 [21:22] <Guest> i would do everything needed to fix this problem
#5630 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Further info is needed, which I am attempting to force you to get for us
#5631 [21:22] <DiskDaemon> Guest: So please, what is the filesize that you see, when you perform the following command prompt command: dir minecraft.exe
#5632 [21:23] <Guest> 263.186 bytes
#5633 [21:23] <DiskDaemon> Good. Now run java and tell it to use that minecraft.exe file, with: java -jar minecraft.exe
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#5635 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> Go to options and select the force update, then login with your username and password
#5636 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> When the problem occurs, close Minecraft, but leave the command prompt open.
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#5638 [21:25] <Guest> alright
#5639 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> right-click the command prompt and select all, press Enter to copy, then paste to pastebin.com
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#5641 [21:25] <generalglub> i have a question
#5642 [21:26] <generalglub> If a friend and i were to share a minecraft account, would we be able to access the same world on different hard-drives?
#5643 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> yes
#5644 [21:26] <generalglub> Seriously?
#5645 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> But only if you copy the world from one machine to the other
#5646 [21:27] <generalglub> copy?
#5647 [21:27] <DopeGhoti> ?define copy
#5648 [21:27] <VoxelHead> Noun (1/4) (n) transcript, copy (a reproduction of a written record (e.g. of a legal or school record))
#5649 [21:27] <VoxelHead> Verb (1/4) (v) copy (copy down as is) "The students were made to copy the alphabet over and over"
#5650 [21:27] <jer> my game crashes after opening the creative inventory my game crashes from an unepected error
#5651 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> Yes, as in, copy/paste
#5652 [21:27] <Guest> nothing is shown in the cmd...
#5653 [21:27] <Guest> it just freezes in the black screen
#5654 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> ??> Guest win/dxdiag
#5655 [21:28] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#5656 [21:28] <VoxelHead> Guest: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#5657 [21:28] <generalglub> One more question, would we be able to access the same world at the same time?
#5658 [21:28] <DopeGhoti> generalglub: no.
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#5660 [21:28] <jer> my game crashes after opening the creative inventory my game crashes from an unepected error
#5661 [21:29] <DopeGhoti> jer: what is the error message exactly?
#5662 [21:29] <generalglub> So it's a one at a time gig?
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#5664 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> it is
#5665 [21:30] <generalglub> Darn. So if I wanted to play online with my friend, we'd be better with seperate accounts?
#5666 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> true
#5667 [21:31] <generalglub> ok. Thank you for the help
#5668 [21:31] <Bimlich> i upgraded to 1.3.1 and now it wont let me play multiplayer
#5669 [21:32] <jer> Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error
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#5671 [21:32] <jer> thats what it says
#5672 [21:32] <Guest> DiskDaemon: http://pastebin.com/idUtY2AV
#5673 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Now we know why - your notebook has only half of the graphics memory that Minecraft requires. 128MB is not enough.
#5674 [21:33] <DiskDaemon> ?? minspecs
#5675 [21:33] <VoxelHead> minspecs: There is no software magic that can make your hardware meet the minimum specifications that are required by the game.
#5676 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> Guest: your CPU drivers are two years old.
#5677 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> GPU rather
#5678 [21:33] <DopeGhoti> that's not helping the situation.
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#5680 [21:34] <Bimlich> how can i play multiplayer with 1.3.1
#5681 [21:34] <Guest> But I was able to run minecraft in this netbook before I install Windows XP (it came with windows 7)
#5682 [21:35] <Guest> well, it was very laggy, of course.. but my point is I didn't got any black screen
#5683 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> ?? causality
#5684 [21:35] <jer> @dopeghoti it says Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error
#5685 [21:35] <VoxelHead> causality: If, as soon as you changed something (like, say, adding a mod or texture pack), everything goes pear-shaped and no longer works, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to posit that the recent change was the probable cause of the problems.
#5686 [21:35] <VoxelHead> causality: Undo what you did that broke everything. That may unbreak things. See also win/reinst mac/reinst or linux/reinst, depending on your OS.
#5687 [21:35] <DiskDaemon> Guest: I can not help you to run Minecraft on 128MB of graphics memory, on your XP notebook.
#5688 [21:35] <Rikairchy> ......
#5689 [21:36] <Rikairchy> 128MB of RAM
#5690 [21:36] <Rikairchy> or 128 of dedicated video ram
#5691 [21:36] <Guest> video ram
#5692 [21:36] <Rikairchy> total ram?
#5693 [21:36] <Guest> like I told you, it used to open the game
#5694 [21:36] <Guest> total ram = 1gb
#5695 [21:36] <Bimlich> after i downloaded 1.3.1 i cannot play multiplayer. every time i try to connect to a server now it says connection lost
#5696 [21:36] <DiskDaemon> Rikairchy: 1012MB of total ram
#5697 [21:37] <Guest> i know my system specs are low, but thats not the problem
#5698 [21:37] <DopeGhoti> ??> Bimlich smp/recentupdate
#5699 [21:37] <VoxelHead> Bimlich: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#5700 [21:37] <VoxelHead> Bimlich: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
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#5702 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Do you know what the minimum specifications for Minecraft are>?
#5703 [21:37] <Guest> prove? I cant even open minecraft classic!
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#5705 [21:38] <DiskDaemon> Guest: The minimim system ram for Minecraft is 2GB, as shown on http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#5706 [21:38] <Guest> I know DiskDaemon... but thats not the reason the game isnt opening... I maneged to open and play it in this SAME MACHINE when it has windows 7
#5707 [21:39] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Then go back to what worked for you before. Otherwise, I do not help people with less than those miminum requirements.
#5708 [21:39] <Guest> now I cant even open the classic brownse game
#5709 [21:39] <Bimlich> ok since i cannot play multiplayer in 1.3.1 then how can i get back to 1.2.5?
#5710 [21:39] <DiskDaemon> Guest: You have a shit computer. I'm sorry for you.
#5711 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> Bimlich: you can play SMP; you just need to find a server which is up-to-date.
#5712 [21:40] <DopeGhoti> !topic info 5
#5713 [21:40] <VoxelHead> #minecrafthelp: element [ 5 = We cannot and will not help you downgrade. ] ... set by [ DopeGhoti | Wed Aug 01 11:10:51 MST 2012 ]
#5714 [21:40] <DiskDaemon> Guest: There is nothing that I can do to help you to achieve what you want to achieve, on your notebook.
#5715 [21:40] <Bimlich> i like a certain server and all of the things i built wont be on the other server
#5716 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> Then wait.
#5717 [21:41] <DopeGhoti> or play SSP in the interim
#5718 [21:41] <Guest> DiskDaemon: alright, I understand and respect the fact you wont help me becouse I dont meet the min specs, but I'm proving you thats not the reason I'm getting that black screen. About my computer, OF COURSE this is a bad machine. Its only my Netbook... its not my main notebook. I'm sorry to hear that you wont helpe me anymore.
#5719 [21:41] <TheNoodle> Hold on a sec Guest
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#5721 [21:42] <TheNoodle> You're saying that your notebook ran minecraft on windows xp but not on 7?
#5722 [21:42] <Guest> I use it only for vocations travels and I wanted to install MC on it so I can use while on vocations =(
#5723 [21:42] <jer> can someone help me in creative when i close my inventory the game freezes and crashes do to an unexpected error
#5724 [21:42] <Guest> TheNoodle: yes
#5725 [21:42] <Lone_Lycan> need to downgrade to 1.2.5... can someone help w/ that?
#5726 [21:43] <DiskDaemon> ??oldversion
#5727 [21:43] <Guest> TheNoodle: sorry, it runs on win 7 NOT on xp
#5728 [21:43] <TheNoodle> heh.
#5729 [21:43] <Bimlich> i just want to play SMP on a certain server. how can i reverse the upgrade and get back to 1.2.5?
#5730 [21:43] <TheNoodle> Yeah, I've got nothing then ^_^
#5731 [21:43] <Guest> :(
#5732 [21:44] <TheNoodle> Bimlich, as you've already been told, we cannot assist you with downgrading.
#5733 [21:44] <jer> can someone help me
#5734 [21:44] <DiskDaemon> For the sake of interest, what was your reason for removing Windows 7 and installing Windows XP instead?
#5735 [21:44] <DopeGhoti> bezaban: We can not and will not assist you in downgrading. Stop asking.
#5736 [21:45] <Lone_Lycan> guess that answers my Q too... laterz
#5737 [21:45] <Lone_Lycan> guess that answers my Q too... laterz
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#5739 [21:45] <DopeGhoti> er, that was intended for Bimlich
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#5741 [21:45] <nipper> DiskDaemon some people just like the clasic.
#5742 [21:46] <EdwardMocha> Uh. o-o
#5743 [21:46] <Guest> This is a very strange behavior. I know my spec are very low, but I was able to open the game in win 7. I'm getting that black screen error after I installed win XP. Its probably something with the LWJGL libraries. I even tried reinstall my windows XP but still dont work. I dont know what else to do. I cant even open the classic brownse game becouse it gives me a UnsatisfiedLinkError for the LWJGL dll file...
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#5745 [21:47] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Just out of curiosity, what was your reason for removing Windows 7 and installing Windows XP instead?
#5746 [21:47] <Guest> DiskDaemon: I changed to win XP becouse like you just said this is a very bad machine so win XP runs faster here.
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#5748 [21:48] <|Kiikun|> ??<< do/,
#5749 [21:48] <|Kiikun|> ??< do/,
#5750 [21:48] <Guest> DiskDaemon: I'm a little sad to see that you stoped helping me just becouse of my system specs. Like I told you, I was trying to run MC here so I could play while on vocation. If I could run the brownser classic version at least that would be enough for me... =(
#5751 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> Okay. If the underlying operating system has a hard time to run, then a demanding game such as Minecraft is going to have a much worse time. The advice I give is to wait until you are using a computer that has less performance troubles.
#5752 [21:49] <EdwardMocha> I need help bc When I tried to update MC, it gave me a "Fatal Error" Where it said it couldn't retrieve the minecraft.jar file. I tried forcing update. I tried deleting .minecraft and updating. I tried getting a friend to send me minecraft.jar. I tried deleting minecraft completely, but when I go to the website, when I clicked on the download for the .exe,
#5753 [21:49] <EdwardMocha> the connection times out.
#5754 [21:49] <netcvb> today i changed my skin but yet when i log into minecraft and go to see my skin, it doesn't change, even though on minecraft.net it sayed it got changed, has anyone else have this problem and/or know how to fix it
#5755 [21:49] <DiskDaemon> Guest: There is nothing that I know of that will help you to run Minecraft on your computer. If you were doing so in Windows 7 then congratulations, but you are not using Windows 7 any more. That is the end of my help.
#5756 [21:50] <Guest> DiskDaemon: yeah, but that apply even to the ONLINE classic version?... I mean, that version is very light... I should be able to at least open it...
#5757 [21:51] <|Kiikun|> netcvb: mc username?
#5758 [21:51] <DiskDaemon> We don't support the classic version here.
#5759 [21:51] <netcvb> netcvb kiikun
#5760 [21:51] <netcvb> and the weird thing is
#5761 [21:51] <netcvb> i tried my 1.2 jar and my skin is changed when i use 1.2
#5762 [21:52] <|Kiikun|> net: you a robot with a world-icon-chest?
#5763 [21:52] <netcvb> yes
#5764 [21:52] <|Kiikun|> your skins fine then
#5765 [21:52] <netcvb> well i mean
#5766 [21:52] <netcvb> when i'm in game it shows the old skin i used to have
#5767 [21:52] <Guest> DiskDaemon: I understand and I appreciate your help. Just in case, let mer add that I downloaded the LWJGL library and tryied to run a installation test and... didnt work.. So I'm almost sure the problem is with that library and since even the online version of MC requires it thats why I'm unable to play...
#5768 [21:52] <netcvb> instead of my new one
#5769 [21:53] <|Kiikun|> netcvb: did you close the game, change the skin, then log back into the game?
#5770 [21:53] <netcvb> yes
#5771 [21:53] <Guest> DiskDaemon: http://www.lwjgl.org/installation.php
#5772 [21:53] <|Kiikun|> netcvb: try again.
#5773 [21:53] <netcvb> i've done it multiple times
#5774 [21:53] <netcvb> and it still isn't changing in game
#5775 [21:54] <DiskDaemon> Guest: My guess is that lwjgl attempts to load the libraries that it needs, and then tries to use them. If the libraries cannot be loaded due to there being not enough memory, lwjgl cannot then find them. I cannot help with that.
#5776 [21:54] <|Kiikun|> netcvb: your skin is grabbed from the server when you log in and load minecraft. if its not changing you either arnt logging in (and thus playign offline) or havent closed minecraft yet.
#5777 [21:54] <netcvb> well i've closed minecraft changed it and then logged back
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#5779 [21:55] <EdwardMocha> net, do you have a texture pack?
#5780 [21:55] <netcvb> and i'm not playing in offline mode
#5781 [21:55] <netcvb> yes
#5782 [21:55] <EdwardMocha> Is it an HD tecture pack
#5783 [21:55] <netcvb> but i don't think that would mess with my skin
#5784 [21:55] <EdwardMocha> texture.
#5785 [21:55] <netcvb> yes it's an hd texture pack it's sphax
#5786 [21:55] <|Kiikun|> texture packs dont include default player skin as far as i know... thats a jar-edit to do that
#5787 [21:55] <netcvb> and i used mc patcher
#5788 [21:55] <EdwardMocha> Do you have MC Patcher?
#5789 [21:55] <EdwardMocha> Okay, open mc patcher
#5790 [21:56] <EdwardMocha> make sure everything is checked except better grass
#5791 [21:56] <EdwardMocha> patch it,
#5792 [21:56] <EdwardMocha> restart your minecraft
#5793 [21:56] <netcvb> are you sure this will fix my skin?
#5794 [21:56] <EdwardMocha> well, turn off mc before you patch
#5795 [21:56] <EdwardMocha> It's what happened to me, sort of.
#5796 [21:56] <|Kiikun|> ed: no liek better grass? or known issue?
#5797 [21:57] <EdwardMocha> What?
#5798 [21:57] <Guest> DiskDaemon: I understand... just let me ask you one last question: do you know what this msg -> (Exception in thread "Minecraft main thread" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Users\Justin\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\bin\natives\lwjgl.dll: Can't find dependent libraries) means (considering that the file lwjgl exists in that location)?
#5799 [21:57] <netcvb> so is the skin problem a server or client side problem?
#5800 [21:57] <|Kiikun|> you dont like better grass mod?
#5801 [21:57] <EdwardMocha> I have no idea.
#5802 [21:57] <EdwardMocha> Idk, I was told not to use better grass.
#5803 [21:57] <EdwardMocha> And I don't really wanna see if it messes up or not.
#5804 [21:58] <EdwardMocha> Now, can someone help me. x.x
#5805 [21:58] <Guest> Does anyone knows what that msg means? What are the possible causes?
#5806 [21:58] <|Kiikun|> EdwardMocha: whats your prob? :3
#5807 [21:58] <EdwardMocha> I need help bc When I tried to update MC, it gave me a "Fatal Error" Where it said it couldn't retrieve the minecraft.jar file. I tried forcing update. I tried deleting .minecraft and updating. I tried getting a friend to send me minecraft.jar. I tried deleting minecraft completely, but when I go to the website, when I clicked on the download for the .exe,
#5808 [21:58] <EdwardMocha> the connection times out
#5809 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> Guest: Yes - it cannot find its dependent libraries, which means the other library files that it needs. Those files may not necessarily be on the hard drive, but may be in memory instead. If they haven't be able to be loaded in to memory, it can't find them, thus prompting that error message. So it seems that you have a memory issue.
#5810 [21:59] <Guest> DiskDaemon: alright then... thank you a lot for the support =)
#5811 [21:59] <Guest> I'll see what I can do
#5812 [22:00] <|Kiikun|> ??> EdwardMocha login
#5813 [22:00] <VoxelHead> EdwardMocha: (login) http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#5814 [22:00] <VoxelHead> EdwardMocha: (login) https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#5815 [22:00] <|Kiikun|> EdwardMocha: the first ling, what does it tell you?
#5816 [22:00] <|Kiikun|> *link
#5817 [22:00] <EdwardMocha> bad login
#5818 [22:00] <|Kiikun|> erm 2nd link i mean
#5819 [22:00] <EdwardMocha> Bad login :l
#5820 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> why is the session link first x.x
#5821 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> EdwardMocha: ok so its not hosts...
#5822 [22:01] <|Kiikun|> EdwardMocha: try this link https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe?234234
#5823 [22:02] <EdwardMocha> That's the one that times out
#5824 [22:02] <EdwardMocha> It timed out
#5825 [22:02] <|Kiikun|> if its timing out.. you have issues with amazon's cloud :/
#5826 [22:02] <EdwardMocha> So... what do I do
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#5828 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> EdwardMocha: hmm...
#5829 [22:04] <netcvb> ok i tried the mc patcher thing
#5830 [22:04] <|Kiikun|> i coudl say wait...
#5831 [22:04] <netcvb> it didn't work
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#5833 [22:05] <Blood_Mind> hello everyone
#5834 [22:05] <EdwardMocha> I'm sorry net. :/
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#5836 [22:05] <Blood_Mind> is there anyone available to help me?
#5837 [22:05] <EdwardMocha> So just wait and try again later?
#5838 [22:05] <|Kiikun|> netcvb: i get the feeling you have somethign cacheing it. it HAS changed. everyone will see the new skin...
#5839 [22:06] <|Kiikun|> EdwardMocha: yeah. the amazon cloud does derp from time to time.
#5840 [22:06] <ChicagoBulls101> Anyone able to tell me why when I try to connect to a mutiplayer server is says it's outdated
#5841 [22:06] <netcvb> well for me it's still my old skin, any reason it would still show my old skin?
#5842 [22:06] <EdwardMocha> Okay, thank you for your help!
#5843 [22:07] <ChicagoBulls101> Anyone able to tell me why when I try to connect to a mutiplayer server is says it's outdated
#5844 [22:07] <ChicagoBulls101> ?
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#5846 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> netcvb: your isp caches requests to speed up your browsing. your requesting the same file, so it grabs it from the cache instead of the actual version from the website
#5847 [22:07] <|Kiikun|> ChicagoBulls101: minecraft just updated to 1.3.1, your server hasnt upgraded yet
#5848 [22:07] <Blood_Mind> does anyone know how to fix the error with the minecraft demo saying "done downloading" and doesnt work. i have an account and dont pay for it.
#5849 [22:07] <Rikairchy> ?? update
#5850 [22:08] <ChicagoBulls101> So, I just have to wait till the server host updates or?
#5851 [22:08] <Rikairchy> ChicagoBulls101: yes
#5852 [22:08] <|Kiikun|> ChicagoBulls101: yes. or put a backed up 1.2.5 jar in.
#5853 [22:08] <netcvb> so should i restart my router or something then?
#5854 [22:08] <Rikairchy> why is VoxelHead so slow
#5855 [22:08] <ChicagoBulls101> How do I put back in the 1.2.5 jar ?
#5856 [22:08] <|Kiikun|> ??> Rikairchy update
#5857 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> no update keyword
#5858 [22:09] <Blood_Mind> does anyone know how to fix the error with the minecraft demo saying "done downloading" and doesnt work. i have an account and dont pay for it.
#5859 [22:09] <ChicagoBulls101> What ?
#5860 [22:09] <|Kiikun|> ChicagoBulls101: if you didnt back it up yourself (or mcpatcher makes backups) then... dunno
#5861 [22:10] <ChicagoBulls101> Okay, so If I didn't back it up then I just have to wait till the server host updates?
#5862 [22:10] <netcvb> wait i think i fixed it, i removed my .minecraft folder from the appdata folder and i think it fixed it
#5863 [22:10] <Blood_Mind> um, i just deleted the contents and it didnt work
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#5865 [22:11] <dujoducom> Hey guys, sorry if you're getting swamped but is anyone else having biome transition issues with the new update? Harsh transisions, mountains that are cut in half perfectly that go down to ocean, etc.
#5866 [22:11] <ChicagoBulls101> Well you guys are sure helpful...
#5867 [22:12] <netcvb> it's probaly the seed that the world generated with dujo
#5868 [22:12] <|Kiikun|> Blood_Mind: your having issue with getting the game itself running. try updatign your video card drivers from the chipset manufacturer
#5869 [22:12] <ChicagoBulls101> Hmp, thanks for the help..
#5870 [22:12] <Blood_Mind> been there done that
#5871 [22:12] <netcvb> try puttting in a seed dujo and see if it still does that
#5872 [22:12] <Blood_Mind> this is my first time trying to play the demo
#5873 [22:12] <Blood_Mind> whats that?
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#5875 [22:13] <rjg124> hey guys
#5876 [22:13] <rjg124> i have a problem
#5877 [22:13] <|Kiikun|> Blood_Mind: updated java?
#5878 [22:13] <Blood_Mind> tyup
#5879 [22:13] <rjg124> i need to update java?
#5880 [22:13] <rjg124> for 1.3
#5881 [22:13] <netcvb> no
#5882 [22:13] <|Kiikun|> rjg124: whatever yourt prob is is usually doesnt hurt
#5883 [22:13] <rjg124> ok
#5884 [22:13] <rjg124> heres my prob
#5885 [22:13] <rjg124> i went to play 1.3
#5886 [22:14] <rjg124> and it said my login failed
#5887 [22:14] <rjg124> so i went to website
#5888 [22:14] <rjg124> and it said my password wasnt right
#5889 [22:14] <rjg124> tand it wont sen me a new password
#5890 [22:14] <|Kiikun|> :passreset > rjg124
#5891 [22:14] <rjg124> yes
#5892 [22:14] <|Kiikun|> :resetpass > rjg124
#5893 [22:14] <|Kiikun|> :<
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#5895 [22:14] <|Kiikun|> oh.. right
#5896 [22:14] <|Kiikun|> no wugbot
#5897 [22:15] <rjg124> wat should i do
#5898 [22:15] <netcvb> reset your password
#5899 [22:15] <rjg124> i cant login to reset it
#5900 [22:15] <|Kiikun|> rjg124: reset your password and wait for email.
#5901 [22:15] <jimmy> hey how do i update my server for the new update?
#5902 [22:15] <rjg124> it wont let me logon at all
#5903 [22:15] <|Kiikun|> ?? resetpass
#5904 [22:15] <rjg124> lemme try
#5905 [22:15] <|Kiikun|> ?? index
#5906 [22:15] <netcvb> you don't need to log in to reset it rjg
#5907 [22:15] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#5908 [22:15] <rjg124> ok ill try it
#5909 [22:15] <netcvb> there is a link on the minecraft site on the login page
#5910 [22:16] <jimmy> hey how do i update my server for the new update?
#5911 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> ?? mc.net/password
#5912 [22:16] <netcvb> that allows you to enter in your email to reset your password
#5913 [22:16] <VoxelHead> mc.net/password: To change your password, log into http://www.minecraft.net, and then go here: http://www.minecraft.net/profile/password
#5914 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> >.<
#5915 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> damnit vox!
#5916 [22:16] <jimmy> hey how do i update my server for the new update?
#5917 [22:16] <|Kiikun|> jimmy: replace the server jar with the new version
#5918 [22:16] <jimmy> how do i do that i got bukkit?
#5919 [22:17] <rjg124> it wont let me log on
#5920 [22:17] <netcvb> you'll have to wait untill bukkit updates to 1.3
#5921 [22:17] <rjg124> i think it deleted my account
#5922 [22:17] <netcvb> there isn't a release of bukkit for 1.3 yet
#5923 [22:17] <jimmy> ok any idea when that is?
#5924 [22:17] <|Kiikun|> rjg124: click 'forgot my password'
#5925 [22:17] <rjg124> i did
#5926 [22:17] <rjg124> it wont send me an email
#5927 [22:17] <rjg124> i tried it like 10 times
#5928 [22:17] <ChicagoBulls101> Fixed my problem, thank you for the help
#5929 [22:17] <jimmy> ?
#5930 [22:17] <|Kiikun|> rjg124: wait for the email. or is it sayign youve migrated?
#5931 [22:17] <|Kiikun|> rjg124: wait for the email. or is it sayign youve migrated?
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#5933 [22:18] <|Kiikun|> rjg124: also.... http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001
#5934 [22:18] <rjg124> it says i requested once but it hasnt sent it yet
#5935 [22:18] <rjg124> im about to just delete mc
#5936 [22:19] <rjg124> this shit is fucking stupid
#5937 [22:19] * AuBot kicked rjg124 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: jg124 :Please keep it civil.)
#5938 [22:19] <|Kiikun|> jimmy: i think evilseth mentioned that he would be releasing the bukkit update soon... ask in #bukkit about it though.
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#5940 [22:19] <rjg124> hello
#5941 [22:19] <rjg124> hello
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#5944 [22:20] <|Kiikun|> rjg124: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/542001
#5945 [22:21] <|Kiikun|> and dont swear. aubot is a prude
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#5947 [22:21] <ned> i nwwd some help
#5948 [22:21] <ned> need*
#5949 [22:22] <ned> i have recently updated my multiplayer
#5950 [22:22] <ned> i mean minecraft
#5951 [22:22] <ned> but my multiplayer servers have said out of date
#5952 [22:22] <ned> and i dont know why what do i do?
#5953 [22:23] <rjg124> i sent an email to mojang
#5954 [22:23] <ned> for me?
#5955 [22:24] <|Kiikun|> ned: you updated minecraft, but the server is still 1.2.5
#5956 [22:24] <ned> what does that mean?
#5957 [22:24] <|Kiikun|> ned: you either have to downgrade MC, or wait for the server admin to update the server
#5958 [22:24] <ned> how do i downgrade?
#5959 [22:25] <|Kiikun|> ned: if you havent made a backup of the 1.2.5 jar, we can't help. (if youve used mcpatcher, it makes backups)
#5960 [22:25] <ned> so basically i have to wait for them to update the servers which could take like 5 days
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#5962 [22:26] <|Kiikun|> ned: possibly. ask your server's admin about it
#5963 [22:26] <ned> im sorry im asking so many questions but how do i do that?
#5964 [22:27] <|Kiikun|> ned: dunno. don't have a non-minecraft way to talk to anyone on your server?
#5965 [22:28] <ned> not sure but thanks
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#5968 [22:30] <Max_Heilman> Can someone help me with an issue.
#5969 [22:30] <puffrfish> just ask
#5970 [22:30] <Max_Heilman> How do I report someone from using a Torrented Minecraft account?
#5971 [22:31] <Max_Heilman> He's getting to be very annoying.
#5972 [22:32] <Max_Heilman> Anybody?
#5973 [22:33] <Smanly> There is no such thing as a "torrented minecraft account"
#5974 [22:33] <Max_Heilman> Well
#5975 [22:33] <Max_Heilman> Torrented Minecraft..
#5976 [22:34] <Smanly> What the real issue?
#5977 [22:34] <Max_Heilman> He's becoming a bother in my Minecraft servers.
#5978 [22:34] <Max_Heilman> Server*
#5979 [22:35] <Max_Heilman> I ban him.
#5980 [22:35] <Max_Heilman> But he keeps getting in some how.
#5981 [22:35] <Max_Heilman> He's destroying my stuff too.
#5982 [22:35] <Max_Heilman> So I made another server, and deleted that world. I sat there, and bam he pops up.
#5983 [22:36] <Smanly> Is your server in Offline mode?
#5984 [22:36] * SgtTraveler|afk [SgtTraveler|afk@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5985 [22:36] <Max_Heilman> No. I like to play it with my friends.
#5986 [22:36] <Smanly> Also, You could ban his IP
#5987 [22:36] <Max_Heilman> I think he might be hacking.
#5988 [22:36] <Max_Heilman> See he told me about his Torrented Minecraft.
#5989 [22:36] <Smanly> I dont think you know what offline mode is
#5990 [22:36] <Max_Heilman> Care to explain?
#5991 [22:37] <Smanly> Means anyone can log in as anyone.
#5992 [22:37] <Max_Heilman> Well, I know it's him..
#5993 [22:37] <Max_Heilman> He has this thing he does.
#5994 [22:37] <Max_Heilman> He doesn't speak in chat. He uses signs.
#5995 [22:37] <Smanly> Check in your server.properties
#5996 [22:37] <Max_Heilman> Kk.
#5997 [22:38] <slowfi> I visited some multiplayer servers that said out of date. Since I just upgraded to 1.3, I figure the server is out of date and not my client
#5998 [22:38] * koolaidmama [koolaidmama@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#5999 [22:38] <Smanly> Yes...
#6000 [22:38] <koolaidmama> i cant change my skin
#6001 [22:38] <Smanly> Why not?
#6002 [22:39] <koolaidmama> it wont change i dont know what to do
#6003 [22:39] <Smanly> Are you trying to see it on SMP or single player?
#6004 [22:40] <slowfi> I should roll back to 1.2.5 if I really want to visit that server
#6005 [22:40] <Smanly> Yep
#6006 [22:40] <koolaidmama> single player i go on minecraft.net and change my skin but the old one stays
#6007 [22:41] <Smanly> Did close and re-open MC?
#6008 [22:41] <Smanly> '
#6009 [22:41] <slowfi> but I can't find any 1.3 smp servers that work yet
#6010 [22:41] <Smanly> There are a few.
#6011 [22:41] <koolaidmama> yup i even deleted all of .minecraft file
#6012 [22:41] <Smanly> I have a temp one set up for people that updated. But no one if playing on it. slowfi.
#6013 [22:42] <Smanly> koolaidmama: How are you changing your skin?
#6014 [22:43] <koolaidmama> going on minecraft.net going to profile then clicking upload and picking a downloaded skin then uploading it
#6015 [22:43] <Smanly> And you aren't seeing the skin in game?
#6016 [22:43] <koolaidmama> im only seeing my old one
#6017 [22:43] <Smanly> In game, right?
#6018 [22:43] <koolaidmama> yup
#6019 [22:44] <Smanly> ??> koolaidmama skin/upload
#6020 [22:44] <VoxelHead> koolaidmama: (skin/upload) Try remote skin upload. Upload a skin using a site like imgur.com and then use this URL to point it (replace last part with imgur url to image): http://www.minecraft.net/skin/remote.jsp?url=UrlToSkinFile
#6021 [22:44] * GEARSoWfan [GEARSoWfan@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#6022 [22:44] <Smanly> I have never tired that. but it may work.
#6023 [22:44] <GEARSoWfan> hello
#6024 [22:44] <Smanly> Hola
#6025 [22:44] <GEARSoWfan> morrolan do you remember me?
#6026 [22:44] <GEARSoWfan> you helped me get minecraft and for that i truly thank you
#6027 [22:44] <GEARSoWfan> :)
#6028 [22:45] <GEARSoWfan> @
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#6030 [22:49] <gffg> How do I update my video cards for MineCraft?A
#6031 [22:49] <gffg> How do I update my video cards for MineCraft?A
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#6033 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> gffg: That depends on what sort of video card you have
#6034 [22:50] <Smanly> lol
#6035 [22:50] * DiskDaemon puts away ??> gffg win/dxdiag
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#6036 [22:51] <koolaidmama> hello
#6037 [22:51] <Smanly> WB
#6038 [22:51] <koolaidmama> hey um still didnt work
#6039 [22:52] <Smanly> Um, is this in singleplayer of in sMP
#6040 [22:52] <Smanly> ?
#6041 [22:52] <slowfi> I don't know what is the ideal gamer videocard these days
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#6043 [22:53] <Smanly> It all depends, slowfi
#6044 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> Anything with 1G of onboard ram is pretty much ideal these days
#6045 [22:54] <koolaidmama> can anyone help me?
#6046 [22:54] <Smanly> koolaidmama: is this in singleplayer of in SMP?
#6047 [22:54] <Smanly> http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/
#6048 [22:54] <koolaidmama> singleplayer
#6049 [22:55] <Smanly> Have you tried SMP?
#6050 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> if it were my money, I would go with the GTX 560 Ti at a good mid-range price, or with more cash I'd go with the GTX 670 or 680
#6051 [22:55] <Smanly> You aren't playing offline, are you, koolaidmama?
#6052 [22:55] <koolaidmama> no ill try right noe
#6053 [22:55] <koolaidmama> now
#6054 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> And if you're on a budget, you can't go wrong with the Radeon HD7750
#6055 [22:57] <koolaidmama> nope dosent show up
#6056 [22:57] <Smanly> Hmm... Does the site give you any errors?
#6057 [22:57] <Smanly> Is your IGN koolaidmama?
#6058 [22:58] <koolaidmama> no its m4st3r_boo8
#6059 [22:58] <Smanly> lolk
#6060 [22:58] <koolaidmama> and it dosent give me errors
#6061 [22:58] <Smanly> Yeah, you are steve...
#6062 [22:58] <Smanly> Try this:
#6063 [22:59] <Smanly> http://www.minecraft.net/profile/skin/remote?url=https://s3.amazonaws.com/squirt/i5019ec853c9fa8887063924718618778125.png
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#6065 [23:00] <koolaidmama> nope still dosent work
#6066 [23:00] <koolaidmama> nope still dosent work
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#6068 [23:00] <Smanly> I really dont know then,
#6069 [23:00] <Smanly> No
#6070 [23:00] <Smanly> It changed
#6071 [23:00] <Smanly> I see it
#6072 [23:01] <Smanly> wut
#6073 [23:04] * irri_kirrillee [irri_kirrillee@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#6074 [23:04] <irri_kirrillee> hello
#6075 [23:04] <Smanly> Hola
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#6077 [23:04] <irri_kirrillee> i have a question about servers and the new update
#6078 [23:04] <Smanly> Ask it.
#6079 [23:05] <irri_kirrillee> well a friend of mine put up a server like four weeks ago and it was working fine up until a week ago and we tried everything we could think of
#6080 [23:06] <joe_> I have applied standard updates and now the software is stuck on :\"Updating Minecraft - Done Loading". what is the next step?
#6081 [23:06] <irri_kirrillee> it said the connection keeps timing out
#6082 [23:06] <Smanly> irri_kirrillee: are both the client and server on the same version?
#6083 [23:06] <irri_kirrillee> yes we are
#6084 [23:07] <Smanly> Are you sure?
#6085 [23:07] <Smanly> Double check.
#6086 [23:07] * joeYam [joeYam@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#6087 [23:07] <irri_kirrillee> we both just updated
#6088 [23:07] <Smanly> Did you update you clients today?
#6089 [23:07] <joeYam> hi there. I have applied standard updates to Minecraft and the screen is now stuck on "Done Loading"
#6090 [23:07] <joeYam> what is the next step?
#6091 [23:07] <joeYam> hyes
#6092 [23:08] <Smanly> Did you update the minecraft_server.jar?
#6093 [23:08] <joeYam> yes
#6094 [23:08] <joeYam> I don't know
#6095 [23:08] <joeYam> how can I tell
#6096 [23:08] <irri_kirrillee> we will try that now
#6097 [23:08] <Smanly> Not you, joeYam.
#6098 [23:08] <irri_kirrillee> oh and the new lan servers how do we utilize those?
#6099 [23:09] <Smanly> Do you have any antivirus software joeYam?
#6100 [23:09] <joeYam> yes
#6101 [23:09] <joeYam> Norton
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#6103 [23:09] <Smanly> irri_kirrillee: If you are on the same network and in single players, someone else can join it.
#6104 [23:10] <irri_kirrillee> what do you mean same network?
#6105 [23:10] <Smanly> on a LAN network.
#6106 [23:10] <Smanly> Local Area Connection,
#6107 [23:10] <Smanly> In the same house, unless you use Hamachi.
#6108 [23:11] <Smanly> joeYam; try disabling norton and the updating.
#6109 [23:11] <irri_kirrillee> so on the same internet connection?
#6110 [23:11] <Smanly> No
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#6112 [23:11] <Smanly> Unless... I mean, we are on the same internet connection right now, i guess.
#6113 [23:11] <ultimatespec> help! is minecraft login servers down?
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#6115 [23:12] <ultimatespec> !login
#6116 [23:12] <Smanly> Oh
#6117 [23:13] <irri_kirrillee> so how do we direct connect to a friend's lan do we put their ip adress?
#6118 [23:13] * wannabemac [wannabemac@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#6119 [23:13] <Smanly> irri_kirrillee You need to , normally, be in the same house.
#6120 [23:14] <Smanly> Unless you use Hamachi.
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#6122 [23:14] <cody> my mine craft appears to have crashed
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#6124 [23:14] <Smanly> But running an actul server will be better irri_kirrillee.
#6125 [23:14] <cody> any help?
#6126 [23:14] <irri_kirrillee> oh ok thanks
#6127 [23:14] <Guest47600> i can't login
#6128 [23:15] <Guest47600> i mean i can
#6129 [23:15] <Jouster500> My downloaded minecraft is taking a longer time than usual in logging me in... Anyone know whats up with it?
#6130 [23:15] <Smanly> !login
#6131 [23:15] <Guest47600> but i can't connect to online
#6132 [23:15] <Guest47600> i can't connect to online mine craft why?
#6133 [23:15] <Jouster500> wait were all having same problem?>
#6134 [23:15] <Smanly> Mojangs networks are down.
#6135 [23:15] <Guest47600> we are all having the same problem
#6136 [23:15] <Guest47600> good
#6137 [23:15] <Guest47600> 1\
#6138 [23:16] <Guest47600> time to play offline
#6139 [23:16] <Jouster500> or servers are overloaded XD
#6140 [23:16] <Smanly> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#6141 [23:16] <Jouster500> i guess a lot of people are enjoying the 1.3 update XD
#6142 [23:17] <Smanly> :D
#6143 [23:17] <Jouster500> if servers are down like this... has this ever happened before?
#6144 [23:17] <Smanly> Many times
#6145 [23:17] <Jouster500> Wouldn't surprise me since this is a very popular game XD
#6146 [23:17] * superkabii [superkabii@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#6147 [23:17] <Smanly> Yep
#6148 [23:17] <Smanly> Especially with the new update.
#6149 [23:18] <Smanly> But the time is a bit strange.
#6150 [23:18] <Smanly> Normally its kinda dead right now.
#6151 [23:18] <Jouster500> true but keep in mind this games made in sweeden
#6152 [23:18] <Jouster500> whole other timezone
#6153 [23:18] <Smanly> Well...
#6154 [23:18] <Smanly> Most of the player base is not in sweden.
#6155 [23:19] <Jouster500> U.S.A.?
#6156 [23:19] <Smanly> Just look at this
#6157 [23:19] <Smanly> http://mcstats.org/
#6158 [23:19] <Smanly> Sweden is 1.1% XD
#6159 [23:19] <Smanly> Of course, that is servers, not players. But still.
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#6161 [23:20] <Corin> Auth down?
#6162 [23:20] * ZeroYams [ZeroYams@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#6163 [23:20] <Smanly> Yes
#6164 [23:20] <Corin> -_-
#6165 [23:20] <Smanly> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#6166 [23:20] <Jouster500> Guess your right XD
#6167 [23:20] <bela141> I'm having trouble logging in.
#6168 [23:20] <Jouster500> ok well im going to go play 1.3 offline now
#6169 [23:20] <Smanly> !login
#6170 [23:20] <Jouster500> see ya
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#6172 [23:22] <bela141> I'm having trouble logging into Minecraft. When I log in it says "Logging in...." Then it wont log me in
#6173 [23:22] <Smanly> !login
#6174 [23:22] <Smanly> Its back up, guys
#6175 [23:22] <Smanly> Try now.
#6176 [23:22] <Qrv> it's fixed 4 me just sec ago
#6177 [23:23] <bela141> Ok, its working now
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#6180 [23:27] <iFamine> Hello?
#6181 [23:27] <Smanly> Hi
#6182 [23:27] <iFamine> is this support?
#6183 [23:27] <Smanly> In a way, yes.
#6184 [23:28] <Smanly> What is the issue?
#6185 [23:28] <iFamine> well i bought minecraft and it keeps saying i didnt.
#6186 [23:28] <Smanly> How long did you wait?
#6187 [23:28] <iFamine> waited an hour
#6188 [23:28] <Smanly> Not long enough.
#6189 [23:28] <Smanly> Has the money been taken out of whereever?
#6190 [23:29] <iFamine> it told me 1 hour. and when i do log in it says cannot connect to minecraft.net
#6191 [23:29] <iFamine> i believe so yes
#6192 [23:29] <Smanly> You need to wait longer.
#6193 [23:29] <iFamine> well ill wait long and see what happens.
#6194 [23:29] <Smanly> It can take days depending on your payment method.
#6195 [23:30] <CrusaderDeleters> !login
#6196 [23:30] <Smanly> ...
#6197 [23:30] <CrusaderDeleters> Damn you, aubot, wom's not working! >:(
#6198 [23:30] <iFamine> i used a card
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#6200 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: What is it that you used to make the payment?
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#6202 [23:30] <DiskDaemon> Which sort of card?
#6203 [23:30] <iFamine> well i payed for mine craft disk
#6204 [23:30] <Smanly> Wat
#6205 [23:31] <Jamie8u> Hello i was wondering if there is a way i can re-download the minecraft.jar file?
#6206 [23:31] <iFamine> and it says my account is not activated ive wated an hour and 30 minutes
#6207 [23:31] <Smanly> Where did you purchase it from, iFamine?
#6208 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: Please humour me
#6209 [23:31] <iFamine> the site.
#6210 [23:31] <Smanly> Which?
#6211 [23:31] <iFamine> minecraft.net
#6212 [23:31] <Smanly> Sorry, DiskDaemon. Go ahead.
#6213 [23:31] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: Which type of card did you use to attempt the payment?
#6214 [23:31] <Jamie8u> yes i re-downloaded the game but the file minecraft.jar does not reset
#6215 [23:31] <iFamine> Visa
#6216 [23:32] <iFamine> Debt
#6217 [23:32] <Smanly> What do you mean by "reset" Jamie8u?
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#6219 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: And which type of Visa card is it?
#6220 [23:32] <iFamine> Debit card or how ever you say it i got my receipt id if you want it
#6221 [23:32] <DiskDaemon> I didn't know that Visa have debt cards
#6222 [23:33] <Smanly> Sure they do.
#6223 [23:33] <Jamie8u> i have a minecraft.jar file at the moment but for some reason it deleted alot of stuff inside the file so i tried to re-dowload it so it would reset the file and re-download everything on it
#6224 [23:33] <iFamine> they do lol.
#6225 [23:33] <Smanly> delete the .jar, Jamie8u.
#6226 [23:33] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: The receipt only confirms that a transactionw was attempted. Not whether it was successful or not.
#6227 [23:33] <Jamie8u> ok
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#6229 [23:34] <iFamine> but it told me it was successive.
#6230 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: That's a known bug
#6231 [23:34] <iFamine> Purchase Complete! Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour.
#6232 [23:34] <iFamine> is what i got
#6233 [23:34] <Jamie8u> and do i just open the game up and it will re-download the file?
#6234 [23:34] <Smanly> Yes
#6235 [23:34] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: Have you heard of moneybookers?
#6236 [23:34] <iFamine> Uhm no why?
#6237 [23:34] <savos_darkran> Any idea how long it takes for the skin to change after you upload it?
#6238 [23:35] <Smanly> The minecraft servers were having issuse, savos_darkran.
#6239 [23:35] <Smanly> Try again.
#6240 [23:35] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: Have you read all of the information on the following page? http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#6241 [23:35] <iFamine> also this and ive been looking for support : Receipt Please save this information, it is useful if you were ever to contact support. and i have the info i just want my account activated :/
#6242 [23:35] <Smanly> Should be instant, but you will need to re-open MC, savos_darkran.
#6243 [23:35] <Jamie8u> smanly the game client stops its self at [done loading] screen
#6244 [23:35] <Jamie8u> and does not load any more
#6245 [23:36] <savos_darkran> I tried a couple of times. I'll just upload it tomorrow when they have settled down. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't something stupid on my end:P
#6246 [23:36] <iFamine> Okay well i read it i will check my bank to see if i got charged or not.
#6247 [23:36] <Jamie8u> nevermind i got it thank you smanly
#6248 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: Please check your bank account. Have you been charged for the game yet?
#6249 [23:36] <Smanly> Looks like the servers are still bugged.
#6250 [23:36] <iFamine> I will check know one second.
#6251 [23:37] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: Your account cannot be activated until you have been charged for it.
#6252 [23:37] <savos_darkran> Thanks for your help, Smanly. Have a good one.
#6253 [23:37] <Smanly> Np.
#6254 [23:37] <Jamie8u> is there a way where i can go back to 1.2.5?
#6255 [23:37] <Smanly> You too.
#6256 [23:37] <Jamie8u> so i can play on my servers
#6257 [23:38] <Smanly> Yes, either with the backup you made.
#6258 [23:38] <Jamie8u> is there another way?
#6259 [23:38] <Smanly> Or you need to get a 1.2.5 jar from someone.
#6260 [23:38] <Jamie8u> ok
#6261 [23:38] <Jamie8u> thanks
#6262 [23:38] <Smanly> I dont think MCnostalgia has been updated
#6263 [23:38] <Smanly> Or however you spell that, lol.
#6264 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> Smanly: Yes, it has been updated for 1.3.1 - it tells you that right on the bloofy page!
#6265 [23:39] <Smanly> I have have never used or even been to the page, lol.
#6266 [23:39] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#6267 [23:39] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#6268 [23:39] <Smanly> I keep copies of all jars, lol.
#6269 [23:39] <Smanly> DiskDaemon.
#6270 [23:40] <Smanly> McNostalgia was updated to 1.3.1.
#6271 [23:40] <DiskDaemon> yes? That's right.
#6272 [23:40] <Smanly> XD
#6273 [23:41] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: How are you doing with looking up that info there?
#6274 [23:41] <iFamine> Okay well it has been disabled my bank account because my 2 year old sister was on the computer typeing random things in on the bank thing down stairs. so i will have to wait untill tommorow to call
#6275 [23:41] <iFamine> Which kind of stinks
#6276 [23:42] <Smanly> Right....
#6277 [23:42] <iFamine> she typed it in my ID thing to many times and got the account disabled online i need to call it tomorrow
#6278 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: Please also confirm with your bank that your card is allowed to be used for international transactions. They sometimes block them for security reasons
#6279 [23:43] <iFamine> Okay thanks DiskDaemon i will check it all tomorrow
#6280 [23:43] <iFamine> Thanks for the support
#6281 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> iFamine: In the mean time, is there anything else we can help you with?
#6282 [23:43] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#6283 [23:44] <iFamine> Well i dont know there is this
#6284 [23:44] <iFamine> When i did purchase it it said account not premium yet but i tried logging in it told me the minecraft client could not connect to minecraft.net
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#6286 [23:44] <iFamine> But now its back to saying im not premium again.
#6287 [23:45] <Smanly> Servers were down.
#6288 [23:45] <DiskDaemon> It will continue to say that until Mojang receive your payment, which cannot occur until you have been charged for the game.
#6289 [23:46] <TaylorLedder> I wonder why all the updates minecraft said to have withdrawn herobrine?
#6290 [23:46] <iFamine> Makes, sense so are you an administrator DiskDaemon?
#6291 [23:46] <Smanly> Its just a joke, TaylorLedder.
#6292 [23:46] <DiskDaemon> Not yet, but I'm working on it :)
#6293 [23:47] <DiskDaemon> TaylorLedder: Because herobrine is a joke. It never existed, so to further the confusion Notch said that he removed it too
#6294 [23:47] <Smanly> What does the + mean?
#6295 [23:48] <TaylorLedder> very tanks man
#6296 [23:48] <iFamine> Very nice Disk (: your a great help
#6297 [23:48] <DiskDaemon> It means that I have voice, so I should be able to keep on talking when the channel is in quiet mode. Mostly though it's a "gold star" for being a good person :)
#6298 [23:48] <Smanly> ;D
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#6301 [23:49] <Malfunctiondown> Hello?
#6302 [23:50] <Smanly> Hi?
#6303 [23:50] <Smanly> Hi!*
#6304 [23:51] <Malfunctiondown> I don't know if it's explained somewhere already, but I didn't immediatly see if there was anything on finding out why the servers I'm trying to log into won't work
#6305 [23:51] <Smanly> Did you update?
#6306 [23:51] <Malfunctiondown> Yes
#6307 [23:51] <Smanly> Did the server update?
#6308 [23:52] <Malfunctiondown> I..Don't know.
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#6310 [23:52] <Malfunctiondown> A friend of mine made two new servers though. Would those have to be updated too?
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#6312 [23:53] <DiskDaemon> Both the client and the server need to be the same version
#6313 [23:53] <Malfunctiondown> I see.
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#6315 [23:53] <michaek> hello
#6316 [23:53] <Smanly> Hola
#6317 [23:54] <michaek> i need help with a problem
#6318 [23:54] <DiskDaemon> what can we help with?
#6319 [23:54] <mrblankman> So when i click on The yeas i would like to update a the bar fills up and then it goes to a different screen and i says Failed to launch what do i do?
#6320 [23:54] <michaek> when i start minecraft, i get an error that reads, bad video card drivers
#6321 [23:55] <DiskDaemon> ??> michaek win/dxdiag
#6322 [23:55] <VoxelHead> michaek: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#6323 [23:55] <VoxelHead> michaek: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#6324 [23:55] <michaek> ok
#6325 [23:57] <mrblankman> Mine says Fatal error occured (4): /Users/stevenschynert/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar what do i do
#6326 [23:57] <michaek> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 8/1/2012, 23:55:52 Machine name: HOME Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Precision WorkStation 490 BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS
#6327 [23:57] <DiskDaemon> mrblankman: Is that after logging on, when it's performing an update?
#6328 [23:58] <mrblankman> yes
#6329 [23:58] <michaek> after logging on
#6330 [23:58] <mrblankman> yes
#6331 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> ??> michaek pastebin
#6332 [23:58] <VoxelHead> michaek: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#6333 [23:58] <DiskDaemon> If the update doesn't want to complete, it's almost certainly your antivirus program preventing Minecraft from getting the files that it needs. A solution to that is to temporarily disable your antivirus program and then try again.
#6334 [23:58] <michaek> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 8/1/2012, 23:55:52 Machine name: HOME Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Precision WorkStation 490
#6335 [23:59] <Grim_Reaper> michaek. Paste bin
#6336 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> michaek: Stop doing that!!!
#6337 [23:59] <michaek> i dont no what to do after paste binning it
#6338 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> michaek: Use pastebin, please!
#6339 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> www.pastebin.com
#6340 [23:59] <DiskDaemon> ??>> michaek pastebin