#1 [00:00] <michaek> do i copy the new numbered version?
#2 [00:00] <michaek> http://pastebin.com/GHAN6Gxm
#3 [00:00] <michaek> im a retard
#4 [00:01] <DiskDaemon> ??> michaek gpu/amd
#5 [00:01] <VoxelHead> michaek: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#6 [00:01] <michaek> ok
#7 [00:02] <michaek> it says they arent officially supported under win 7
#8 [00:02] <michaek> is that a problem or will it still update?
#9 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> oh dear, that could be a problem.
#10 [00:03] <michaek> what if i run minecraft in virtual xp
#11 [00:03] <DiskDaemon> You can try them, but there's no guarantee
#12 [00:03] <michaek> ok
#13 [00:03] <Smanly> D:
#14 [00:04] <michaek> is there any way to down grade windows
#15 [00:04] <DiskDaemon> Nuke everything from orbit.
#16 [00:05] <Grim_Reaper> lol downgrade :|
#17 [00:05] <michaek> virtual xp?
#18 [00:05] <DiskDaemon> What is virtual xp?
#19 [00:06] <Grim_Reaper> Playing MC on a virtual OS wouldn't work out so great I think..
#20 [00:06] <Smanly> ^
#21 [00:06] <michaek> ao
#22 [00:06] <michaek> *o
#23 [00:06] <michaek> heres the whole error just in case
#24 [00:06] <TheNoodle> http://pastebin.com ;)
#25 [00:07] <michaek> http://pastebin.com/4k026uyR
#26 [00:08] <Elystus> ??>> michaek win/dxdiag
#27 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Yep, been there, done that, smelled the mustard.
#28 [00:08] <michaek> but i know people with terrible and old cards that run fine D:
#29 [00:08] <Elystus> Oh >_>
#30 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> http://pastebin.com/GHAN6Gxm
#31 [00:09] <DiskDaemon> Running a terrivle and old card on a terrible and old operating system can trump trying to do so on a modern operating system
#32 [00:10] <michaek> i guess mines old
#33 [00:10] <michaek> from 2007
#34 [00:10] <michaek> but it has open gl 2.0
#35 [00:11] <DiskDaemon> "Pixel format not accelerated" is not in relation to the supported version of opengl.
#36 [00:12] <michaek> oh
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#38 [00:12] <michaek> what is an accelerated open gl mode
#39 [00:13] <DiskDaemon> It's something that's needed for Minecraft to work
#40 [00:15] <DiskDaemon> michaek: It's where graphics manipulation occurs in the GPU of the card itself, instead of on the CPU of your computer.
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#42 [00:15] <michaek> why would this happen after switching to win7
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#44 [00:16] <DiskDaemon> Due to different drivers being used
#45 [00:17] <michaek> meh
#46 [00:17] <DiskDaemon> Sorry - simple answer is simple :)
#47 [00:17] <michaek> on my other computer multiplayer worked a bit after switching to win 7 but then i got the error
#48 [00:17] <michaek> yea i guess
#49 [00:17] <michaek> ima miss minecraft it was fun
#50 [00:18] <michaek> thanks for the help
#51 [00:19] <michaek> bye
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#53 [00:31] <MrPainting> Anyone Got a Fix for Fatal Error 4?
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#55 [00:32] <DiskDaemon> it's your av!
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#57 [00:33] <kosta7025575> Hi can someone please tell me how to uninstll java I need help
#58 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> he's gone though - can't hear :)
#59 [00:33] <kosta7025575> Live were do I go?
#60 [00:33] <kosta7025575> Like*
#61 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> Sure, uninstall it from your add/remove programs area in the control panel
#62 [00:33] <DiskDaemon> Detailed instructions are at http://www.java.com/en/download/uninstall.jsp
#63 [00:34] <kosta7025575> yeah but what do I type
#64 [00:34] <kosta7025575> in my controll panel
#65 [00:34] <DiskDaemon> kosta7025575: Which part of those instructions do you fail to understand?
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#67 [00:35] <DiskDaemon> ?? dont/pebcak
#68 [00:35] <VoxelHead> dont/pebcak: If you can't understand our (generally) basic instructions, please don't even bother wasting our time if you won't listen. Fixing problems requires some amount of self-help ability, to say nothing of literacy and the ability to follow directions..
#69 [00:35] <VoxelHead> dont/pebcak: Keep in mind we are all volunteers - if you need more help, hire a professional.
#70 [00:36] <kosta7025575> I dont under standand what to type in my controll panes to get to the add / remove thing
#71 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> kosta7025575: Do you see the programs section?
#72 [00:37] <kosta7025575> ugh never mid found it
#73 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> "2. Select Programs"
#74 [00:37] <kosta7025575> thanks
#75 [00:37] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome :)
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#78 [00:47] <iggyflames> i cant connect to minecraft.net T-T
#79 [00:47] <iggyflames> help?
#80 [00:48] <iggyflames> hello?
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#84 [01:09] <TNTUP> uh, I need help about that integrated singleplayer server
#85 [01:10] <TNTUP> how I can disable that lan feature? I dont need that, it breaks my worlds.
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#87 [01:12] <potato_> hello?
#88 [01:14] <DiskDaemon> Not that we know of at this stage
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#91 [01:21] <disgustipated> does anyone have the minecraft_server.jar for 1.3.1? i downloaded form the main page and it says its 1.25
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#93 [01:23] <DiskDaemon> Your ISP may be using aggressive caching on the page, resulting in the old information being shown to you. Download it from https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe
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#95 [01:25] <disgustipated> do you have the jar? im hosting it on linux
#96 [01:26] <disgustipated> suppose i could use that and then grab the jar from it, i imagine it puts it somewhere similar to the client
#97 [01:27] <DiskDaemon> The .jar location is at https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar
#98 [01:27] <Edric> Can anyone help me get the demo version running on my Macbook Pro? I've downloaded the client and registered an account, but when I log in on the application is says (not downloaded) and the button for the demo is blank.
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#100 [01:27] <disgustipated> thanks so much
#101 [01:28] <DiskDaemon> Eddie: We don't support the classic version here sorry
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#103 [01:28] * DiskDaemon goes down for dinner
#103 [01:29] <genshou> Anyone proficient with McMyAdmin? I was using it over LAN to play with my roommate, and I forgot how to make it stop binding to a local IP so I can let outside players join in again ^^;
#104 [01:33] <disgustipated> that jar is still reporting 1.2.5 on the startup message
#105 [01:33] <disgustipated> and im getting "Received string length longer than maximum allowed (9984 > 64)" when trying to connect
#106 [01:33] <disgustipated> in the server logs
#107 [01:33] <disgustipated> any ideas?
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#109 [01:34] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: Are you using a server mod? Is the server updated to 1.3
#110 [01:34] <tyteen4a03> ?
#111 [01:34] <AmberK|Zzz> uh
#112 [01:34] <AmberK|Zzz> wat
#113 [01:34] * AmberK|Zzz nvm's and backs out again
#113 [01:34] * AmberK|Zzz nvm's and backs out again
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#114 [01:34] * AmberK|Zzz nvm's and backs out again
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#116 [01:37] <TNTUP> "Starting integrated minecraft server version 1.3.1" How I can disable this? There's no option to disable that auto server thing. Hope someone releaes a mod to block that
#117 [01:38] <AmberK|Zzz> does one line annoy you that much?
#118 [01:39] <TNTUP> no, its just it annoys me
#119 [01:39] <TNTUP> the lan server isnt enabled
#120 [01:39] <disgustipated> no, ive started up minecraft_server.jar which was downloaded from the link above from diskdaemon
#121 [01:39] <disgustipated> im running it on a freebsd box
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#124 [01:40] <disgustipated> where is the location of the .jar for the windows exe server? or does it not fire off the jar like the client and have it compiled in the exe or something
#125 [01:42] <disgustipated> ohgawd...the minecraftserver.exe just dumps all of its files whereever you run it from lol
#126 [01:42] <disgustipated> jeebus
#127 [01:43] <Eddie> <DiskDaemon> Eddie: We don't support the classic version here sorry
#128 [01:43] <Eddie> Nice tab usage!
#129 [01:45] <disgustipated> is there anyone else actually using the .jar?
#130 [01:47] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: Hang on
#131 [01:47] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: why is DiskDaemon giving you a windows page when you're running FreeBSD?
#132 [01:48] <disgustipated> he linked the jar after i specified i needed the jar
#133 [01:49] <disgustipated> but that one seems to report 1.2.5 also after i start it up
#134 [01:49] <tyteen4a03> let me verify
#135 [01:49] <disgustipated> im rebooting my server just on the off chance theres some sort of oddity with when i was copying it over and keeping it in memory or something
#136 [01:49] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: It's showing 1.3.1 for me
#137 [01:49] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: It's showing 1.3.1 for me
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#139 [01:52] <disgustipated> thats odd, you started it with a command line like java -XmsXXXX -XmxXXXX -jar minecraft_server.jar
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#141 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: no, I just double-clicked it
#142 [01:55] <tyteen4a03> (laziness on Windows, yay)
#143 [01:56] <disgustipated> yeah the windows server reports 1.3.1
#144 [01:56] <disgustipated> me thinks the jar file hasnt been updated on the webpage
#145 [01:57] <tyteen4a03> yet running it in command line shows otherwise?
#146 [01:57] <disgustipated> yes
#147 [01:57] <disgustipated> theres quite a few other people on the forums running into this as well
#148 [01:59] <disgustipated> in the logs when someone tries to connect it throws this:
#149 [01:59] <disgustipated> (pardon the channel spam)
#150 [01:59] <disgustipated> java.io.IOException: Received string length longer than maximum allowed (9984 > 64)
#151 [01:59] <disgustipated> at lx.a(SourceFile:197)
#152 [01:59] <disgustipated> at ny.a(SourceFile:21)
#153 [01:59] <disgustipated> at lx.a(SourceFile:155)
#154 [01:59] <disgustipated> at qq.h(SourceFile:189)
#155 [01:59] <disgustipated> at qq.c(SourceFile:9)
#156 [01:59] <disgustipated> at zt.run(SourceFile:76)
#157 [01:59] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: Please use pastebin
#158 [02:00] <disgustipated> ah yeah i always forget about that
#159 [02:00] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: If you still have vanilla 1.2.5 server file, I can verify if they really updated the jar
#160 [02:01] <disgustipated> http://pastebin.com/qeZECniF
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#162 [02:02] <disgustipated> all of the modified date/time stamps on both the old jar i had and the new one that is reporting 1.2.5 are 3-30-2012
#163 [02:03] <disgustipated> i mean all of the files inside
#164 [02:03] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: Mind uploading the old jar to an uploading site so I can verify?
#165 [02:03] <disgustipated> all the class files and everythign
#166 [02:03] <disgustipated> sure, one sec
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#168 [02:05] <disgustipated> http://erasethis.net/pub/minecraft_server.jar1.2.5
#169 [02:06] <disgustipated> if i restore my local bin files in my .minecraft folder to the old 1.2.5 files i can connect to the server
#170 [02:07] <disgustipated> after i update the client i can no longer connect and it spits that error in the server log
#171 [02:08] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: Yeah, it looks like the server files are not updated yet
#172 [02:08] <tyteen4a03> mollstam: Is the Minecraft_server.jar updated on s3?
#173 [02:09] <disgustipated> the amazon link?
#174 [02:10] <tyteen4a03> yes
#175 [02:10] <disgustipated> nope, just tried that
#176 [02:10] <disgustipated> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar
#177 [02:10] <disgustipated> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar
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#179 [02:11] <tyteen4a03> yeah, so I am asking
#180 [02:11] <tyteen4a03> it could be amazon's problem though
#181 [02:13] <disgustipated> yeah, thats the other thing i was thinking was going on, like the download wasnt propogating across their server farms
#182 [02:15] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: Just ran WinMerge, it's updated on my side
#183 [02:15] <tyteen4a03> so it's amazon
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#185 [02:19] <disgustipated> can you send it to me through a dcc transfer on here or some other means?
#186 [02:19] <disgustipated> and what did you winmerge?? lol
#187 [02:20] <disgustipated> i use that almost every day at work for comparing scripts
#188 [02:21] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: the source of the decompiled stuff
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#190 [02:22] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: sent
#191 [02:22] <disgustipated> its going to fail...i dont have the dcc ports open...been a while since ive used irc
#192 [02:22] <disgustipated> 1 sec
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#195 [02:26] <disgustipated> ok, try again plz
#196 [02:30] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: sent
#197 [02:31] <disgustipated> failed again :\
#198 [02:33] <Guitarguy1133> anyone having issues changing their skins with minecraft.net on 1.3.1?
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#200 [02:34] <disgustipated> ok one more try, i think i got it this time :)
#201 [02:34] <ssharp> Now that my launcher has updated will my world automatically have the update features or only newly created worlds?
#202 [02:34] <Guitarguy1133> newly created
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#204 [02:35] <Guitarguy1133> but seriously
#205 [02:35] <Guitarguy1133> anyone having issues changing their skins with minecraft.net on 1.3.1?
#206 [02:35] <ssharp> kinda figured thanks
#207 [02:35] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: ok
#208 [02:41] <disgustipated> tyteen4a03, can you upload that to an ftp?
#209 [02:41] <disgustipated> the dcc doesnt seem to be working
#210 [02:41] <disgustipated> ftp://abstract.webhop.net
#211 [02:41] <disgustipated> username is tyteen4a03
#212 [02:41] <disgustipated> pass is the same
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#214 [02:49] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: Sorry for the late response, it's on its way
#215 [02:50] <disgustipated> thanks :D
#216 [02:54] <disgustipated> THANK YOU!
#217 [02:54] <disgustipated> it works :D
#218 [02:55] <disgustipated> well....it had started up at least
#219 [02:56] <puffrfish> >.>
#220 [02:57] <disgustipated> http://pastebin.com/rKQ1Pd5u
#221 [02:57] <disgustipated> got that
#222 [02:57] <puffrfish> please take information like that to PMs
#223 [02:58] <tyteen4a03> puffrfish: Hmm?
#224 [02:59] <tyteen4a03> disgustipated: it sounds like your java is messed up
#225 [03:04] <disgustipated> seems you are correct, that jar works when running from command line in windows
#226 [03:09] <disgustipated> actually
#227 [03:09] <disgustipated> http://goo.gl/qJjI6
#228 [03:09] <disgustipated> that forum post helped
#229 [03:09] <disgustipated> ill have to research why
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#231 [03:09] <disgustipated> but im up and running now
#232 [03:10] <disgustipated> thanks tyteen4a03
#233 [03:12] <tyteen4a03> np
#234 [03:12] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
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#236 [03:16] <DiskDaemon> Well now there really is no need for the classic version, since the 1.3 minecraft.exe launcher gives a "play demo" option when logging in
#237 [03:17] <Arle> What limitations are there on the demo?
#238 [03:17] <DiskDaemon> 100 minutes of game time
#239 [03:17] <Arle> OK... what about after that?
#240 [03:18] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: Classic version still exists because there is still an active playerbase
#241 [03:18] <tyteen4a03> even minimal
#242 [03:18] <DiskDaemon> After that you need to pay for the game
#243 [03:18] <Arle> yeah, but classic is still free :)
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#245 [03:19] <TheDoctor> Hi!
#246 [03:19] <tyteen4a03> hi
#247 [03:19] <Arle> Hello
#248 [03:19] <TheDoctor> Does anyone know how to check if you put on generated structures in your world? I can't remember.
#249 [03:20] <DiskDaemon> You can unpack the level.dat file and find out from there
#250 [03:20] <TheDoctor> How do I do that? xD
#251 [03:22] <DiskDaemon> I'll find out in a bit, when I have a working minecraft again
#252 [03:24] <DiskDaemon> You can use 7-zip or winrar to extract level.dat in to its own folder, but which lart of the resulting level file you look for, willr equire research
#253 [03:24] <TheDoctor> Ok, thanks :D
#254 [03:25] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, the demo is only available if a premium player has already downloaded the files. So demo can only be used on a computer where a premium user is alrady active.
#255 [03:27] <DiskDaemon> TheDoctor: MapFeatures is what you're looking for. See http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Level_Format#level.dat_Format
#256 [03:28] <TheDoctor> Thank you very much.
#257 [03:28] <Necrodoom> so whats the demo in this, exactly?
#258 [03:28] <Necrodoom> since you must be premium to access demo
#259 [03:28] <Necrodoom> might aswell play normal
#260 [03:28] <DiskDaemon> The demo is of the full game, but for just 100 minutes for the non-premium player
#261 [03:29] <Necrodoom> you said you must be premium so files can be downloaded, though
#262 [03:29] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, but it allows other people on your machine to try it out
#263 [03:29] <Necrodoom> but if a premium user downloaded files, they can use offline mode
#264 [03:29] <Necrodoom> instead of demo
#265 [03:30] <DiskDaemon> There doesn't seem to be an offline mode now
#266 [03:31] <Necrodoom> DiskDaemon: just tested, exists
#267 [03:31] <DiskDaemon> Oh there is, you just need to disconnect the network for it to show
#268 [03:32] <DiskDaemon> Right, so the demo side of things still needs some work
#269 [03:32] <Necrodoom> i just typed in wrong password
#270 [03:32] <Necrodoom> and went offline mode
#271 [03:33] <DiskDaemon> even better
#272 [03:33] <Necrodoom> cant exactly see point of demo
#273 [03:34] <Arle> I find the name 'demo' fairly self-explanatory.
#274 [03:34] <DiskDaemon> I guess that mojang need to work out how non-premium players can download a demo, without being able to use a script to bypass the launcher
#275 [03:34] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: that is like impossible...?
#276 [03:35] <Arle> They did that sort of thing for people logging into SMP servers, though.
#277 [03:35] <DiskDaemon> Yeah, good luck to them :)
#278 [03:35] <tyteen4a03> Arle: yeah, but you're talking about singleplayer
#279 [03:36] <Arle> But they still have to go online to download the game
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#281 [03:37] <ripe_banana> Hello?
#282 [03:37] <tyteen4a03> hi
#283 [03:37] <Necrodoom> Arle: which ruins point of demo
#284 [03:37] <ripe_banana> My minecraft glitches in the distance
#285 [03:37] <ripe_banana> My minecraft glitches in the distance and it sucks
#286 [03:38] <Necrodoom> what kind of glitches
#287 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> Yes, it does that
#288 [03:38] <ripe_banana> like the whole building is there then not there then not
#289 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> Some chunks aren't loaded so you can see through them, until you get closer to them
#290 [03:38] <ripe_banana> it happens everywhere
#291 [03:39] <ripe_banana> it isn't that
#292 [03:39] <tyteen4a03> anything sent to the client can be edited by the client, so it's easy to bypass the authenciation needed
#293 [03:39] <tyteen4a03> s/so/and
#294 [03:39] <ripe_banana> like in the distance then if i turn around it is there to
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#296 [03:40] <ripe_banana> can you help?
#297 [03:41] <ripe_banana> Hello?
#298 [03:42] <PersonInNeed> I need help.
#299 [03:42] <ripe_banana> NO I DO!
#300 [03:42] <ripe_banana> jks
#301 [03:42] <ripe_banana> what you need?
#302 [03:42] <PersonInNeed> I was hacked and need to know how to recover it :l
#303 [03:42] <PersonInNeed> my account
#304 [03:42] <ripe_banana> hacked how?
#305 [03:43] <PersonInNeed> they got my password idk how and changed it :l
#306 [03:43] <PersonInNeed> more stealing the account
#307 [03:43] <ripe_banana> Did you tell a friend?
#308 [03:43] <PersonInNeed> no
#309 [03:43] <PersonInNeed> no one ever knew my password
#310 [03:43] <ripe_banana> does it say account migrated?
#311 [03:43] <PersonInNeed> no
#312 [03:43] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: try Forget Password
#313 [03:43] <PersonInNeed> I did
#314 [03:43] <tyteen4a03> (assuming you still have access to your email)
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#316 [03:44] <legokid> Hi
#317 [03:44] <PersonInNeed> it was only the game [minecraft]
#318 [03:44] <legokid> Does anyone know what to do if you forget your password for your account
#319 [03:45] <PersonInNeed> ilegokid
#320 [03:45] <legokid> I mean EMAIL
#321 [03:45] <PersonInNeed> legokid*
#322 [03:45] <legokid> the email associated with the account
#323 [03:45] <tyteen4a03> legokid: use the Forget Password function of the associated Email provider
#324 [03:45] <tyteen4a03> if you have no secondary email linked to it, you will need to call them up
#325 [03:45] <PersonInNeed> tyteen4a03
#326 [03:45] <legokid> okay Thank you
#327 [03:46] <PersonInNeed> Do you now anyone who can help me get back my account?
#328 [03:46] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: Have you tried the Forget Password function of Minecraft.net?
#329 [03:46] <PersonInNeed> yes
#330 [03:46] <PersonInNeed> know*
#331 [03:46] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: what happened?
#332 [03:46] <PersonInNeed> nothing
#333 [03:46] <PersonInNeed> i didnt get anywhere
#334 [03:46] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: you didn't get an email?
#335 [03:47] <PersonInNeed> nope
#336 [03:47] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: you sure you're logging into the same email you registered Minecraft? Did you check your spam folder?
#337 [03:47] <PersonInNeed> yes i checkd it all
#338 [03:47] <PersonInNeed> checked*
#339 [03:48] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: What email provider are you using?
#340 [03:48] <DiskDaemon> Use this link and type in your email address http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#341 [03:48] <PersonInNeed> Iits the password not the name
#342 [03:49] <PersonInNeed> and Yahoo
#343 [03:49] <PersonInNeed> i sent mojang 2 emails 3 days aprart and i havent got a answer from them.
#344 [03:50] <PersonInNeed> yet.
#345 [03:50] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: It's used to check if your username is tied to the email you think you are using
#346 [03:50] <PersonInNeed> ok ill try it
#347 [03:50] <tyteen4a03> also, it takes mojang months to reply to emails
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#349 [03:50] <DiskDaemon> Literally, they're at over 2 months now
#350 [03:51] <zack_> okey this shitty game doesnt run on my computer it laggs like hell and they wont giv me a refund wat do i do?
#351 [03:51] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
#352 [03:51] <tyteen4a03> ??> zack_ win/dxdiag/bat
#353 [03:51] <VoxelHead> zack_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#354 [03:51] <VoxelHead> zack_: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#355 [03:51] <tyteen4a03> zack_: Follow the instructions posted by VoxelHead
#356 [03:51] <PersonInNeed> Well like i tried before it doesnt send me a email
#357 [03:52] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: then your username is not tied to the yahoo mail
#358 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> zack_: Get a better computer?
#359 [03:52] <tyteen4a03> zack_: Or that ^
#360 [03:52] <zack_> i have an alienware ithink its fine
#361 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> Buy Skyrim and find your computer's too bad to play it, are the developers to blame for that?
#362 [03:52] <zack_> this shitty corparation sux
#363 [03:53] <PersonInNeed> The email and username are right i just need help recovering my password
#364 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> zack_: Can we get a dxdiag report from you?
#365 [03:53] <DiskDaemon> ??> zack_ win/dxdiag
#366 [03:53] <VoxelHead> zack_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#367 [03:53] <VoxelHead> zack_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#368 [03:53] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: /bat
#369 [03:54] <tyteen4a03> zack_: Firstly, Mojang is not an coperation, they are a group of indie developers, secondly, just because Minecraft resembles low-level graphics doesn't mean it uses any less resources than modern-day game does, like Portal 2 and Skyrim
#370 [03:54] <DiskDaemon> Some people have trust issues downloading such scripts
#371 [03:54] <tyteen4a03> zack_: And thirdly, if you refuse to follow our instructions, then we can't help you
#372 [03:54] <zack_> wtf is up with u and skyrim
#373 [03:54] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: I see
#374 [03:54] <tyteen4a03> ??> zack_ attitude
#375 [03:54] <VoxelHead> zack_: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#376 [03:54] <VoxelHead> zack_: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#377 [03:54] <zack_> i cant get a refund because they r working on emails from may this is bs
#378 [03:55] <PersonInNeed> I just need help recovering my Password
#379 [03:55] <tyteen4a03> ??> PersonInNeed only/you
#380 [03:55] <VoxelHead> PersonInNeed: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#381 [03:55] <VoxelHead> PersonInNeed: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#382 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> zack_: Refunds are not given.
#383 [03:55] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: just a heads up, try checking any other email accounts you may have
#384 [03:55] <zack_> this game is shit im donw
#385 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> Also, alienware are owned by Dell, who are known for shitty computers. I wouldn't touch an alienware if you paid me.
#386 [03:55] <PersonInNeed> ik......and i did
#387 [03:55] <DiskDaemon> Well, you would have to pay be very well indeed :)
#388 [03:56] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: no... alienware before dell is not shitty
#389 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> Damn, and we were trying to help him in the best way possible too
#390 [03:56] <tyteen4a03> I know :P
#391 [03:56] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: what are the email provider of all email accounts you own?
#392 [03:56] <DiskDaemon> indeed, they are now though, which is a shame
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#394 [03:57] <PersonInNeed> yahoo and facebook for 1 of them
#395 [03:57] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: ok, is your account a paid account?
#396 [03:57] <PersonInNeed> yes
#397 [03:58] <PersonInNeed> do you need the name of the account?
#398 [03:58] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: Try finding your original transcation ID for Minecraft and email them at help.mojang.com
#399 [03:58] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: no, we're fine
#400 [03:59] <PersonInNeed> The only thing i need is my password recovered from the person who changed it.
#401 [04:00] <tyteen4a03> PersonInNeed: But since you don't receive any Forget Password email, the only way is to email Mojang to manually reset your password
#402 [04:00] <PersonInNeed> oh ok thanks
#403 [04:01] <tyteen4a03> no problem
#404 [04:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Wow, Zack_'s dialogue was interesting to read.
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#406 [04:06] <PersonInNeed> My dad has the transaction ID but im unable to contact him. Is there anyway they could tell what my email is by my minecraft username.
#407 [04:07] <DiskDaemon> Mojang can from their account records, but nobody else can
#408 [04:08] <PersonInNeed> So am i able to email them directly?
#409 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> PersonInNeed: Mojang require the transaction id as proof that you own that account. This stops other people from trying to take control of other people's accounts
#410 [04:08] <PersonInNeed> ok
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#412 [04:09] <CrusaderDeleters> I most likely don't have my transaction id. :s
#413 [04:10] <americanwhite52> im trying to get onto a server and it says server is outdated and hen i try to connect to my own server it says end of stream how do i connect to either one
#414 [04:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Downgrade to 1.2
#415 [04:10] <americanwhite52> how do i downgrade
#416 [04:10] <CrusaderDeleters> MCNostalgia is a nice way.
#417 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#418 [04:10] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#419 [04:11] <americanwhite52> ty
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#421 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Hmm, why are my minecraft sounds not working. There's no music or sound from it at all.
#422 [04:13] * DiskDaemon checks volume
#422 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> No, that's not muted, or down. Music is playing from itunes...
#423 [04:14] <DiskDaemon> Open Mixer from the vomule panel - Aha!! The Minecraft application is muted itself
#424 [04:16] <Edby> I am experiencing very strange lagish behavior from mobs in single player since 1.3.1.. does that sound familiar to anyone?
#425 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> welcome to multiplayer
#426 [04:17] * Arle points at 'single player'.
#426 [04:17] <Arle> but they made that MP on localhost didn't they.
#427 [04:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Disk, someone else had the same exact problem.
#428 [04:18] <DiskDaemon> Noting a difference in mob behaviour between 1.2.5 and 1.3.1?
#429 [04:18] <CrusaderDeleters> [04:13] DiskDaemon Hmm, why are my minecraft sounds not working. There's no music or sound from it at all.
#430 [04:19] <Edby> So could it be related to local network and router ports?
#431 [04:19] <tyteen4a03> Edby: No
#432 [04:19] <Necrodoom> 1.3.1 mobs seem delayed
#433 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> In my case, I muted it on the day before, so it wouldn't interfere with my listening to music
#434 [04:19] <tyteen4a03> Edby: All it matters is your computer's performance and/or Minecraft code
#435 [04:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I didn't have a problem with mobs, however the mob spawner either spun very slow, or spun very fast
#436 [04:20] <Necrodoom> >attempts to join singleplayer
#437 [04:20] <Necrodoom> >connection refused: connect
#438 [04:20] <Necrodoom> -_-
#439 [04:20] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom: if my understanding is correct, the local server spawns when player loads a world
#440 [04:20] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: I feel like the only helper who doesn't play Minecraft release at all
#441 [04:21] <Edby> the game runs fine, the npcs behave like they are walking in syrup
#442 [04:22] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't call me evil, but I just found that there funny.
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#446 [04:25] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: Are there no villages and villagers in creative mode?
#447 [04:25] <americanwhite52> hey crusader what do i downgrade to
#448 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> I'm not sure about creative mode
#449 [04:27] <Edby> i'm in the mood to record a video of how they behave, is fraps the way to go or can you recommend some other recording software?
#450 [04:28] <DiskDaemon> yes, fraps is a very good one to start with
#451 [04:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Fraps is nice.
#452 [04:30] <DiskDaemon> Yes, I see a villiage generate in creative mode here, with 1.3.1
#453 [04:31] <Edby> How about "Taksi", anyone tried that?
#454 [04:32] <Edby> nevermind, seems very outdated
#455 [04:34] <Edby> or perhaps not that oudated in the end, I will be quiet now
#456 [04:36] <americanwhite52> im trying to get onto a server and it says server is outdated and hen i try to connect to my own server it says end of stream how do i connect to either one
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#458 [04:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Didn't we answr your question, like 10 minutes ago?
#459 [04:37] <americanwhite52> ya but it didnt work
#460 [04:37] <americanwhite52> i tried like ten versions and none of them worked
#461 [04:37] <CrusaderDeleters> ... You downgrade to 1.2.5.
#462 [04:37] <americanwhite52> ya
#463 [04:37] <dutchie1> how do I get my old minecraft back?
#464 [04:38] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#465 [04:38] <americanwhite52> that didnt work it gave me a really old version
#466 [04:39] <dutchie1> 1.1.5?
#467 [04:39] <CrusaderDeleters> That's because you chose the really old version, read the readme.txt, or the troubleshooter in the thread itself. It tells you how to use MCNostalgia
#468 [04:39] <americanwhite52> ok
#469 [04:39] <americanwhite52> i downloaded 2.1.2
#470 [04:40] <CrusaderDeleters> 2.1.2?
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#472 [04:40] <tyteen4a03> CrusaderDeleters: I think he meant mcnostalgia
#473 [04:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh
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#476 [04:47] <HerbertB> hi. I am wondering if anyone can help me. I just updated Minecraft to 1.3.1 and all of my worlds crash the game when I open them. I am running a PPC Mac, is this the issue? I can post the error report if need be. Thanks
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#478 [04:48] <americanwhite52> crusader it still says end of stream
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#480 [04:48] <Mixxit> my client is crashing to desktop
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#482 [04:49] <HerbertB_> Hi. I have updated to 1.3.1. It crashes Minecraft inall of my worlds. I run a PPC Mac. Any advice?
#483 [04:49] <Chamunks> hs_err_pid29292.log's keep appearing in my home directory anyone know what might be causing this or how i could fix it? http://paste.thezomg.com/4067/43895873/
#484 [04:49] <Chris> HerbertB_, try deleting your .minecraft folder and reinstalling minecraft
#485 [04:49] <Calinou> is PPC even supported by minecraft? O_o
#486 [04:50] <HerbertB_> Thanks. It has only happened since update. I have been running Minecraft in PPC for over a year. No reason it should stop now.
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#488 [04:50] <HerbertB_> I will try it. Which folder is it?
#489 [04:51] <HerbertB_> Chris?
#490 [04:51] <matt7477> Does anyone else have this pixel acceleration problem?
#491 [04:51] <Chris> HerbertB_, note quite sure on a mac, lemme quickly find it...
#492 [04:51] <Chris> ??< index
#493 [04:52] <HerbertB_> THanks
#494 [04:52] <HerbertB_> Could I Just force update?
#495 [04:52] <Chris> ?? mac/.minecraft
#496 [04:52] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#497 [04:52] <Chris> before you do that, copy your worlds or you'll lose them
#498 [04:52] <HerbertB_> so delete the whole thing?
#499 [04:52] <Chris> then delete it
#500 [04:53] <HerbertB_> don't care about the worlds! Thanks. I will try it then report back.
#501 [04:53] <Calinou> WAIT
#502 [04:53] <Calinou> don't
#503 [04:53] <HerbertB_> i am waiting
#504 [04:53] <Calinou> delete all the folders but the "saves" and "texturepacks"
#505 [04:53] <HerbertB_> why?
#506 [04:53] <Calinou> else you will lose your worlds/packs
#507 [04:53] <HerbertB_> tdon't care!
#508 [04:53] <Chamunks> anyone know how to decypher java errors.
#509 [04:53] <Necrodoom> <HerbertB_> don't care about the worlds! Thanks. I will try it then report back.
#510 [04:53] <Calinou> you could keep servers.dat too... if you want to keep your server list
#511 [04:53] <Calinou> and stats folder - stats ;)
#512 [04:55] <HerbertB_> Thanks for the help. I seriously need to update my whole computer...
#513 [04:57] <HerbertB_> Hey look, 'The application Minecraft is not supported on the Architecture'. Got to love updates. I know I am not meant to ask this, but any way to get back to 1.2?
#514 [04:59] <tyteen4a03> HerbertB_: are you on Java 6?
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#516 [05:00] <tyteen4a03> Chamunks: try pasting them on pastebin.com and copy the link here
#517 [05:00] <Chamunks> hs_err_pid29292.log's keep appearing in my home directory anyone know what might be causing this or how i could fix it? http://paste.thezomg.com/4067/43895873/
#518 [05:00] <Chamunks> tyteen4a03, was in the scrollback :)
#519 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> ?? pastebin
#520 [05:01] <DiskDaemon> Please upload the contents of the hs_err_pid file to pastebin
#521 [05:01] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#522 [05:01] <tyteen4a03> DiskDaemon: I found the link
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#525 [05:01] <RobinJ> Why can't I connect to any servers anymore?
#526 [05:01] <tyteen4a03> Chamunks: libX11... hmm
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#528 [05:01] <RobinJ> Is it something with the 1.3.1 update?
#529 [05:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> RobinJ smp/recentupdate
#530 [05:02] <VoxelHead> RobinJ: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#531 [05:02] <VoxelHead> RobinJ: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#532 [05:02] <Necrodoom> incoming ad bot
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#534 [05:03] <tyteen4a03> Chamunks: Can you tell me what you get when you run this in your terminal: "lspci | grep VGA && glxinfo | grep -w 'direct\|OpenGL'"
#535 [05:04] <Chris> all the terminal? XD
#536 [05:04] * Grim_Reaper throws a large hairy man at Chris
#536 [05:04] <Chris> D:
#537 [05:04] <tyteen4a03> Grim_Reaper: thank you
#538 [05:04] <Grim_Reaper> No problem
#539 [05:04] <Grim_Reaper> :3
#540 [05:05] <RobinJ> omg
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#542 [05:05] <RobinJ> can i disable the thingy that makes blocks turn in the direction your placed them?
#543 [05:05] <Grim_Reaper> Nope
#544 [05:06] <RobinJ> sucks :/
#545 [05:07] * Grim_Reaper throws a large greasy hairy old man at Chris
#545 [05:08] <Chris> [19:04:35] <Chris> D:
#546 [05:09] <Chamunks> tyteen4a03, i can sure
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#548 [05:10] <Chamunks> http://paste.thezomg.com/4068/34389844/
#549 [05:12] <Chamunks> tyteen4a03, http://paste.thezomg.com/4068/34389844/
#550 [05:12] <tyteen4a03> Chamunks: I got it
#551 [05:12] <tyteen4a03> it looks like it's an lwjgl problem instead of a minecraft one
#552 [05:13] <tyteen4a03> s/an/a
#553 [05:13] <Chamunks> yeh i could download the next update to lwjgl again
#554 [05:13] <Chamunks> i updated it already once to make it compatible with java7
#555 [05:13] <Chamunks> to some dev build of lwjgl
#556 [05:14] <tyteen4a03> Chamunks: the thread that complains about it was created on early july
#557 [05:14] <Chamunks> so if i update now it should likely be much better off?
#558 [05:14] <Chamunks> you guess
#559 [05:15] <tyteen4a03> Chamunks: I guess os
#560 [05:15] <tyteen4a03> *so
#561 [05:16] <Chamunks> either that or downgrade to before july builds i guess.
#562 [05:16] <tyteen4a03> Chamunks: yup
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#564 [05:24] <RobinJ> i dunno what they did with this update, but the game hasnt crashed yet, which is a bit of a miracle :p
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#566 [05:31] <CDparadis83> i need some help
#567 [05:33] <CDparadis83> i dont see the animation when i do a critical or the hearts when i breed animals
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#569 [05:34] <Calinou> -_-
#570 [05:34] <RobinJ> huh
#571 [05:34] <Calinou> inb4 particles = minimal
#572 [05:34] <RobinJ> does lava leak red particles through bedrock now?
#573 [05:34] <Calinou> mojang needs to fix the lack of hearts in minimal particles
#574 [05:35] <DarkNOVE> I have a premium account I have uploaded skin, I can see it's just me. For others, I'm Steve. What can I do about this?
#575 [05:35] <Calinou> RobinJ, yes, as always
#576 [05:35] <Calinou> DarkNOVE, proof that others see you as steve?
#577 [05:35] <Calinou> when you upload a new skin, restart the game
#578 [05:35] <Calinou> and tell the others to reconnect
#579 [05:36] <DarkNOVE> I've done this many times and it didn't help
#580 [05:36] <Calinou> are you really sure they see you as steve? they are probably lying
#581 [05:37] <tobylane> they have to relogin
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#583 [05:37] <mib_40blit> Hi
#584 [05:37] <mib_40blit> Minecraft Auth Servers Down?
#585 [05:38] <Calinou> -_-
#586 [05:38] <DarkNOVE> No, because at first as I have uploaded it if you could see. Now, I wanted another is no longer visible. How do I know? My sister plays and other sees, and I do not.
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#588 [05:39] <quibbit> MINECRAFT AUTHENTICATION SERVERS DOWN!
#589 [05:39] <DarkNOVE> Sorry for my bad english
#590 [05:39] <quibbit> ?
#591 [05:40] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#592 [05:40] <Grim_Reaper> !login
#593 [05:40] <quibbit> You cant Loginto Servers -.-''
#594 [05:40] <lutzee> quibbit, you can see the status of the servers at help.mojang.com
#595 [05:40] <lutzee> quibbit, did you update your client?
#596 [05:41] <quibbit> Yep, But Yesterday
#597 [05:41] <Grim_Reaper> Are running 1.3.1?
#598 [05:41] <quibbit> Yeah
#599 [05:41] <quibbit> Why?
#600 [05:41] <lutzee> Chances are the servers you want to connect to are still 1.2.5
#601 [05:41] <Grim_Reaper> ^
#602 [05:41] <Grim_Reaper> ^
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#604 [05:42] <quibbit> But i cant Connect to 1.3.1 Servers, It Says Can Verify Username?
#605 [05:42] <quibbit> *Cant
#606 [05:43] <lutzee> help.mojang.com says session servers are fine
#607 [05:43] <quibbit> I See it.
#608 [05:43] <quibbit> But, It Says Cant Verify Username...
#609 [05:45] <tobylane> then try another server
#610 [05:45] <tobylane> one you know for sure is the same version as your client
#611 [05:49] <Calinou> servers != login servers
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#613 [05:59] <RobinJ> goddamnit when are the keyboard issues going to be fixed?
#614 [06:00] <lutzee> what keyboard issues? o.o
#615 [06:02] <RobinJ> if you're moving with your keyboard sometimes it looks like the key is stuck in the game
#616 [06:03] <lutzee> ahh that, i believe optifine fixes such issue, but it's not something that they seem to care about fizing
#617 [06:03] <RobinJ> they should
#618 [06:03] <DiskDaemon> It's also something that I've heard an updated version of lwjgl can fix too
#619 [06:04] <RobinJ> tried that solution before. just broke the game
#620 [06:04] <RobinJ> why dont they just include an updated version by default
#621 [06:04] <RobinJ> ?
#622 [06:04] <DiskDaemon> They did try that some months ago
#623 [06:05] <lutzee> lwjgl breaks a lot with minecraft when they try to update it
#624 [06:07] <Calinou> <RobinJ> if you're moving with your keyboard sometimes it looks like the key is stuck in the game
#625 [06:07] <Calinou> lwjgl update actually fixed that
#626 [06:08] <Calinou> dunno what version if used by MC by default
#627 [06:09] <RobinJ> i still wonder what the devs were thinking when they chose java
#628 [06:09] <RobinJ> obviously they weren't thinking at all when they added a framework on top of it >.<
#629 [06:09] <DiskDaemon> That's all that Notch knew well at the time. You do what you can with what you have.
#630 [06:10] <RobinJ> true
#631 [06:11] <RobinJ> but why not get rid of the buggy framework and make the game mulmti-threaded when you can
#632 [06:12] <lutzee> Because he was doing what he felt was right at the time?
#633 [06:13] <lutzee> You forget it started as something that he did not realise it would take off
#634 [06:15] <RobinJ> well that's how everyone starts
#635 [06:16] <RobinJ> drupal, php, linux, ...
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#637 [06:18] <jtrlnd> Hello! I have had some trouble with mine craft, it crasches all the time, first it said "saving chunks" and then there is a black screen. But today when it crasched this message showed: Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error This error has been saved to /Users/jtrlnd/Library/Application Support/minecraft/crash-reports/crash
#638 [06:18] <lutzee> ?? pastebin
#639 [06:18] <VoxelHead> pastebin: Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#640 [06:19] <jtrlnd> http://pastebin.com/rA9HiEak
#641 [06:19] <lutzee> Ahhh graphics, and on a Mac hmm
#642 [06:20] <jtrlnd> Is there a problem with my graphics card?
#643 [06:20] <lutzee> Well i have no experience with macs but it seems to be,
#644 [06:20] <lutzee> give me a minute
#645 [06:21] <jtrlnd> okay, if you need to know, my graphics card is Intel HD Graphics 4000
#646 [06:21] <lutzee> Ivy bridge, there should be no problems with that :/
#647 [06:22] <jtrlnd> Okay :/ so there is nothing I can do?
#648 [06:22] <lutzee> ahhh
#649 [06:22] <lutzee> it seems to be your mouse specifically
#650 [06:23] <lutzee> Er no idea why it could cause a problem
#651 [06:23] <jtrlnd> so the mouse is my problem? Should I disconnect it? It's a simple hp usb mouse
#652 [06:24] <lutzee> Er, looks like the game can't see where the mouse is on the screen, therefore can't use it
#653 [06:24] <jtrlnd> Weird, I'm going to try it with my trackpd now, and see if it works
#654 [06:25] <jtrlnd> now it works perfectly :D Thank you soo very much!! :D
#655 [06:26] <lutzee> haha cool,
#656 [06:26] <jtrlnd> Do you think it's the same with every mouse, or just this one?
#657 [06:27] <lutzee> It's hard to tell, to be fair :p
#658 [06:28] <jtrlnd> Okay, because it would be more convenient to play with a mouse :P
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#661 [06:30] <jtrlnd> Now i tried it with a logitech mouse, and for now it seems to be working :D
#662 [06:31] <sheldor92> i cant connect to any server since i updated, do i need to wait or can i do something to fix this? :(
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#664 [06:32] <sheldor92> anyone?
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#667 [06:49] <Aelyst> hey, can some1 tell me if 1.3.1 will affect old worlds (with temples and stuff?)?
#668 [06:50] <Helloman892> No.
#669 [06:50] <Grim_Reaper> I think they will generate in your old world
#670 [06:50] <Grim_Reaper> But you'll of course have to explore to new places
#671 [06:50] <Aelyst> hmm ok
#672 [06:50] <Aelyst> like
#673 [06:50] <Helloman892> Ah, ok. AFAIK, it wouldn't affect old chunks.
#674 [06:50] <Aelyst> unrendered areas
#675 [06:50] <Grim_Reaper> Yeah
#676 [06:50] <Grim_Reaper> Old chunks wont be effected
#677 [06:50] <Grim_Reaper> They will stay the same
#678 [06:50] <Grim_Reaper> Except maybe the seed will change :p
#679 [06:50] <Helloman892> Aelyst: New chunks, so yes, essentially.
#680 [06:51] <Aelyst> ok guys thx a ton :D
#681 [06:51] <Grim_Reaper> Np
#682 [06:51] <Helloman892> Lol he left.
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#686 [07:26] <Heley> Can anyone help me all it says is cannot conect done everything can think of
#687 [07:26] <Helloman892> Heley: Cannot connect? What can't you connect to?
#688 [07:27] <Heley> minecraft.net
#689 [07:27] <Helloman892> What version of Javva do you have?
#690 [07:27] <Helloman892> Java*
#691 [07:27] <Heley> i have java 6
#692 [07:27] <Helloman892> Ok.
#693 [07:28] <Helloman892> Do you use AVG?
#694 [07:28] <Heley> no i got norton
#695 [07:28] <lutzee> ah.
#696 [07:28] <lutzee> ew
#697 [07:28] <Helloman892> lutzee: Could use some help here, no idea what's going on.
#698 [07:29] <Helloman892> Heley: Can you see the update news in the launcher?
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#700 [07:29] <Jewkano> hey do you have to be online for the ticks to work on plants?
#701 [07:29] <lutzee> Norton is just horrible in general, but problem is they've probably paid for it, so can't just say try something else
#702 [07:29] <Helloman892> Jewkano: What do you mean?
#703 [07:29] <lutzee> Jewkano, probably,
#704 [07:30] <lutzee> Helloman stuff in the game engine ;)
#705 [07:30] <Helloman892> Do you mean 'Will plants grow when I'm offline'?
#706 [07:30] <Jewkano> i been offline for a few hours came back my sugarcanes not fully grown
#707 [07:30] <Heley> no i cnt see it
#708 [07:30] <Helloman892> Oh, right. Is it a single-player world?
#709 [07:30] <lutzee> Jewkano, the chunk must be loaded
#710 [07:30] <Jewkano> nah im on a server
#711 [07:30] <Helloman892> ^
#712 [07:30] <Helloman892> What lutzee said
#713 [07:31] <lutzee> All chunks are unloaded on server when no one is online
#714 [07:31] <Helloman892> The chunk is only loaded when it is within a players render-distance.
#715 [07:31] <Helloman892> And yeah, what lutzee said.
#716 [07:31] <Jewkano> oh i see so i have to be afk by the canes
#717 [07:31] <Helloman892> Pretty much.
#718 [07:31] <lutzee> pretty much
#719 [07:31] <Jewkano> mk
#720 [07:31] <Helloman892> XD
#721 [07:31] <Jewkano> thnx
#722 [07:31] <Helloman892> No probs.
#723 [07:32] <Helloman892> I have both GIMP and PS CS6 open for some reason.
#724 [07:32] <lutzee> I don't like gimp plegh
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#726 [07:32] <lutzee> and i need to aquire CS6
#727 [07:33] <lutzee> still on 5.5
#728 [07:33] <Helloman892> I prefer Photoshop CS6 LO
#729 [07:33] <Helloman892> :P
#730 [07:33] <Helloman892> Lol
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#732 [07:33] <Helloman892> Hiya, CosmicVoyager.
#733 [07:33] <Helloman892> :D
#734 [07:33] <CosmicVoyager> hi. just read topic...i never soulc use color codes in console
#735 [07:33] <Helloman892> You do, actually.
#736 [07:34] <Helloman892> You know the purple '[Server]' thing when you use /say?
#737 [07:34] <CosmicVoyager> i would tyep say &1 for exqmple, but no color
#738 [07:34] <Helloman892> It's not purple anymore
#739 [07:34] <CosmicVoyager> i dont understand
#740 [07:34] <CosmicVoyager> what color is it?
#741 [07:34] <Helloman892> White.
#742 [07:35] <Helloman892> Normal chat colour.
#743 [07:35] <CosmicVoyager> whenever i tried color codes in 1.2.5 it would should the code text
#744 [07:35] <CosmicVoyager> *should=show
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#746 [07:35] <Helloman892> I'm trying to explain - When you use /say, it used to be a purple-pink colour, right?
#747 [07:36] <CosmicVoyager> yes
#748 [07:36] <Helloman892> Now it's not.
#749 [07:36] <Helloman892> Not in 1.3.1, anyways.
#750 [07:36] <Helloman892> AFAIK.
#751 [07:36] <CosmicVoyager> well topic sems wrong it says it breaks console color codes
#752 [07:36] <CosmicVoyager> color codes could never be used in console
#753 [07:36] <Helloman892> As I said, as far as I know it breaks the colour of '[Server]'.
#754 [07:37] <CosmicVoyager> yeah, well the topic should say that! :-)
#755 [07:37] <Necrodoom> bukkit devbuild or vanilla 1.3.1?
#756 [07:37] <Helloman892> Not sure.
#757 [07:37] <Helloman892> I believe it's vanilla.
#758 [07:38] <Necrodoom> devbuild of bukkit works fine
#759 [07:38] <Helloman892> It does.
#760 [07:38] <Helloman892> Anyways, why are we talking about
#761 [07:38] <Helloman892> ?? mods
#762 [07:38] <Helloman892> ?
#763 [07:38] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#764 [07:38] <Helloman892> :D
#765 [07:38] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#766 [07:38] <Necrodoom> Helloman892: making sure D:
#767 [07:38] <Helloman892> 'For bukkit help,' :P
#768 [07:39] <Helloman892> I have a leaky bukkit.
#769 [07:40] <Helloman892> My server is broken. But, it's
#770 [07:40] <Helloman892> ??< mods
#771 [07:40] <Helloman892> so I hav to go to #bukkit.
#772 [07:40] <Helloman892> have*
#773 [07:42] <lutzee> bukkit is so annoying, everyone in the minecraft comunity will say bukkit when they mean bucket -.-
#774 [07:42] <Mixxit> where we going to report 1.3.1 issues?
#775 [07:42] <Helloman892> I know right.
#776 [07:42] <lutzee> Mixxit, what's your problem?
#777 [07:42] <Helloman892> 1.3.1 issues? On the forums, or here :/
#778 [07:42] <Mixxit> an issue with built in persistence
#779 [07:43] <Helloman892> lutzee: I'm out of this.
#780 [07:43] <lutzee> You might want to explain further, not sure what you mean
#781 [07:43] <Mixxit> http://pastebin.com/ASNHbQEC
#782 [07:43] <Helloman892|IgnoreMe> :P
#783 [07:43] <Mixxit> feels like something has changed
#784 [07:43] <Helloman892|IgnoreMe> Mixxit: That's Bukkit.
#785 [07:43] <lutzee> Mixxit, you want to ask in #bukkit about that
#786 [07:43] <Mixxit> shit in the wrong channel lol
#787 [07:43] <Mixxit> thougth this was bukkithelp
#788 [07:44] <Helloman892|IgnoreMe> No.
#789 [07:44] <Helloman892|IgnoreMe> No.
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#791 [07:44] <Helloman892> Besides, that's RPChat.
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#798 [07:56] <daggerscull> anyone know how to fix java error - connection reset
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#800 [07:56] <Helloman892> Yes.
#801 [07:56] <Angus_Miguel> can anyone help me with my mc 1.3.1?
#802 [07:57] <Helloman892> You're trying to connect to a 1.2.5 server with 1.3.1, daggerscull.
#803 [07:57] <Helloman892> ??> Angus_Miguel telepathy
#804 [07:57] <VoxelHead> Angus_Miguel: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#805 [07:57] <Helloman892> In other words, yes.
#806 [07:57] <Calinou> <Angus_Miguel> my mc 1.3.1 doesn't make any sounds
#807 [07:57] <Calinou> Angus_Miguel, what operating system?
#808 [07:58] <Angus_Miguel> So, i have had mc 1.3.1 since it's release and since then my mc doesn't do any sounds
#809 [07:58] <Angus_Miguel> i am running win7 and i have had mc since 1.4
#810 [07:58] <Helloman892> Calinou: When did he say that?
#811 [07:58] <Angus_Miguel> it has always worked but now with 1.3.1 it doesn't do any sounds
#812 [07:58] <Calinou> in #minecraftforums
#813 [07:58] <Helloman892> Ah, ok.
#814 [07:58] <daggerscull> thanks Hello.....so is there a plave to update the server?
#815 [07:59] <Helloman892> daggerscull: Is it your server?
#816 [07:59] <Angus_Miguel> anyone has any idea of what to do?
#817 [07:59] <Helloman892> It's a common error, Angus_Miguel.
#818 [08:00] <Angus_Miguel> so there's nothign to do?
#819 [08:00] <daggerscull> running in browser...1.3.1 is my server
#820 [08:00] <Calinou> Angus_Miguel, check your speakers/sound volume? :p
#821 [08:00] <Angus_Miguel> i've done that before coming here...
#822 [08:00] <Calinou> daggerscull, as in: do you have FTP/SSH access to the server? you need it to update the server
#823 [08:01] <Calinou> or is the server on your computer?
#824 [08:01] <daggerscull> on the computer
#825 [08:01] <daggerscull> no ftp access
#826 [08:01] <daggerscull> everything was working fine yesterday
#827 [08:01] <Calinou> then update it.
#828 [08:01] <Calinou> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar
#829 [08:01] <Calinou> latest vanilla server jar
#830 [08:02] <Helloman892> And I have no idea.
#831 [08:02] <daggerscull> do you know the path for the jar
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#833 [08:05] <Calinou> daggerscull, huh
#834 [08:05] <Calinou> what do you mean by "path for the jar"?
#835 [08:05] <daggerscull> trying to determine how to update jar file
#836 [08:05] <daggerscull> and where file goes
#837 [08:05] <daggerscull> the link downloads a zip file....
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#839 [08:09] <Calinou> O_o it shouldn't
#840 [08:09] <Calinou> what browser?
#841 [08:09] <Calinou> just replace the old server .jar (you might want to backup it)=
#842 [08:10] <daggerscull> do you know where it is stored on the c drive
#843 [08:10] <Guitarguy1133> bukkit just released a dev build =)
#844 [08:10] <Helloman892> No.
#845 [08:10] <Guitarguy1133> for those waiting on bukkit
#846 [08:10] <Helloman892> It's wherever you put it, daggerscull.
#847 [08:11] <Guitarguy1133> on windows XP and up i believe its under my documents>downloads
#848 [08:11] <lutzee> slow down.... are you using minecraft_server.exe or minecraft_server.jar ?
#849 [08:11] <daggerscull> exe
#850 [08:12] <lutzee> yeah... you want to download the new exe from minecraft.net/download
#851 [08:12] <lutzee> and replace the old one
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#853 [08:13] <CosmicVoyager> Anyone else having truble logging in?
#854 [08:13] <Helloman892> No.
#855 [08:13] <Rikairchy> !down
#856 [08:13] <Rikairchy> !up
#857 [08:13] <CosmicVoyager> Saya can;t connect to minecraft.net
#858 [08:13] <Helloman892> Is it up?
#859 [08:13] <Rikairchy> !isup
#860 [08:13] <Calinou> CosmicVoyager, any antivirus/firewall? what operating system?
#861 [08:13] <Calinou> !login
#862 [08:13] <Rikairchy> >.>
#863 [08:13] <lutzee> !login
#864 [08:13] <Rikairchy> i knew it was something
#865 [08:13] <lutzee> eh
#866 [08:13] <CosmicVoyager> it just started when i updated to 1.3
#867 [08:13] <Rikairchy> !isdown
#868 [08:13] <GreyBot> Rikairchy: It's just you. http://www.minecraft.net is up.
#869 [08:14] <CosmicVoyager> hagns at Logging in a long time then says cant connect
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#871 [08:15] <Roshiny> Sup guys. Wondering if you could help me. The new patch is out as I'm sure everyone knows, but when I try to log into my server it says "End of Stream" and doesn't let me.
#872 [08:15] <Helloman892> Roshiny: Your server is outdated.
#873 [08:15] <lutzee> ?? smp/recentupdate
#874 [08:15] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#875 [08:15] <daggerscull> had multiple copies of exe in downloads and cleaned it out and downloaded a new version, but same error
#876 [08:15] <VoxelHead> smp/recentupdate: #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#877 [08:15] <Roshiny> I've updated the server to the 1.3.1 server, but it still says the same thing.
#878 [08:16] <lutzee> okay hmm
#879 [08:16] <CosmicVoyager> http://help.mojang.com/ says "Currently unable to check status"
#880 [08:17] <Roshiny> The stuff on Mojang's site doesn't seem to cover this, I can't find anything on there, hence coming here ^^
#881 [08:18] <lutzee> sigh it might be caching the download maybe
#882 [08:18] <lutzee> but just checked and the exe is 1.3.1
#883 [08:18] <HerbertB_> Waht is java 6?
#884 [08:18] <daggerscull> it still says i need a connection reset
#885 [08:18] <lutzee> Java runtime enviroment, which is needed to run minecraft, you have version 6
#886 [08:19] <daggerscull> how do i do that
#887 [08:19] <Roshiny> Mmh... Should I try removing the server folder stuff and re-downloading it?
#888 [08:22] <Roshiny> Alrighty, still saying the same thing. Does anyone have their own server up and running that could help me out here?
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#890 [08:23] <lutzee> I'm to lazy to bother booting my server..
#891 [08:24] <Roshiny> XD wonderful. I'll keep poking around, see if there's anything I can do. If anyone gets any ideas or figures out what's wrong, drop it here please. Thanks a bunch ^^
#892 [08:25] <Roshiny> Ah... It seems to be trying to connect to a different port. How would I fix that?
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#894 [08:25] <Roshiny> Other than the usual MC port, that is.
#895 [08:25] <ninjakitty2> hhi
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#897 [08:25] <ninjakitty2> is there any legal way to download a premodded jar
#898 [08:26] <Helloman892> No
#899 [08:26] <lutzee> ninjakitty2, nope, totaly illegal
#900 [08:26] <lutzee> any redistribution of the jar's in any way is illegal
#901 [08:26] <ninjakitty2> does anyone know any good l a n adventure maps
#902 [08:26] <ninjakitty2> i did a good one yesterday
#903 [08:26] <Helloman892> Nope. Why spaces?
#904 [08:26] <Helloman892> l a n? What the-
#905 [08:27] <ninjakitty2> because its an acronym
#906 [08:27] <ninjakitty2> local area network
#907 [08:27] <Helloman892> Yes, you say LAN, not l a n.
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#910 [08:27] <ninjakitty2> ok
#911 [08:28] <ninjakitty2> thanks for nothing
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#913 [08:28] <ninjakitty2> to answer my question
#914 [08:28] <Helloman892> No problem.
#915 [08:28] <Helloman892> We answered your question >.>
#916 [08:29] <ninjakitty2> ok dylan
#917 [08:29] <Helloman892> Dylan?
#918 [08:29] <Helloman892> Dafuq.
#919 [08:29] <ninjakitty2> you said nope not we
#920 [08:30] <ninjakitty2> you live in the UK
#921 [08:30] <Helloman892> As I said, WE. ANSWERED. YOUR. QUESTION.
#922 [08:30] <ninjakitty2> right
#923 [08:30] <Helloman892> And that's true.
#924 [08:30] <ninjakitty2> not we
#925 [08:30] <ninjakitty2> you
#926 [08:30] <Helloman892> We did.
#927 [08:30] <lutzee> We as a channel, the community.
#928 [08:30] <Helloman892> Your question was 'is there a legal way to download a premodded jar'.
#929 [08:30] <ninjakitty2> but only one person responded
#930 [08:30] <ninjakitty2> srry
#931 [08:31] <Helloman892> No, lutzee and myself did.
#932 [08:31] <Helloman892> ninjakitty2: How do you know my name, anyways?
#933 [08:31] <ninjakitty2> i asked if there were any good adventure maps
#934 [08:31] <Helloman892> You asked two questions.
#935 [08:31] <Helloman892> I answered both.
#936 [08:31] <ninjakitty2> i looked at your whois
#937 [08:31] <lutzee> ninjakitty2, we are not here to advise for maps, we are purely support.
#938 [08:31] <Helloman892> Ok, why is that there T_T
#939 [08:32] <ninjakitty2> you live in the uk too lutzee
#940 [08:32] <lutzee> Well done
#941 [08:33] <Helloman892> But why the hell is my name on there?
#942 [08:33] <lutzee> but you won't get much further
#943 [08:33] <ninjakitty2> wha is port forwarding
#944 [08:33] <lutzee> Helloman892, you set your real name to your real name in your IRC client
#945 [08:33] <Helloman892> I did?
#946 [08:33] <lutzee> obviously
#947 [08:33] <Helloman892> There's no setting for that T_T
#948 [08:33] <ninjakitty2> what is portforwarding
#949 [08:34] <lutzee> Helloman892, then it took your windows username
#950 [08:34] <Helloman892> Something.
#951 [08:34] <Helloman892> lutzee: Oh, I see.
#952 [08:34] <lutzee> ninjakitty2, it is a process to forward outside traffic from the internet to an internal PC in your network'
#953 [08:34] <Helloman892> Yeah my Windows username is Dylan.
#954 [08:34] * Helloman892 changes his username
#954 [08:34] <ninjakitty2> is it hard to do
#955 [08:34] <Helloman892> Reletively.
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#957 [08:34] <Helloman892> relatively*
#958 [08:35] <lutzee> Depends on how tech savy you are, any one who knows what they are looking for could do it without problems but if you have no clue about systems you didn't even new existed then you will have a hard time
#959 [08:35] <Helloman892> Indeed.
#960 [08:36] <Helloman892> I was referring to someone with no former knowledge of the process.
#961 [08:36] <lutzee> I hate having to explain it to people
#962 [08:36] <Helloman892> So do I.
#963 [08:36] <CosmicVoyager> when 1.3.1 crahes...i cant laucnhit again without restsrtingthe computer...it stops at saying the version...what process do i need to kill?
#964 [08:36] <Helloman892> lutzee: Wouldn't mind checking my whois for my name now?
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#966 [08:37] <lutzee> still dylan..
#967 [08:37] <Helloman892> Damn, just have to reopen my client XD
#968 [08:37] <Helloman892> Brb
#969 [08:37] <CosmicVoyager> when 1.3.1 crashes...i cant launch it again without restarting the computer...it stops at saying the version...what process do i need to kill?
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#971 [08:38] <Guest33790> i updated my minecraft yesterday with the new update and now when i try to play minecraft on multiplayer it say outdated servers. what should i do?
#972 [08:39] <Helloman892> Damn, probably need a system restart (@lutzee)
#973 [08:39] <Helloman892> :P
#974 [08:39] <Arle> Guest33790, wait for the servers to update.
#975 [08:39] <lutzee> ??> Guest33790 smp/recentupdate
#976 [08:39] <VoxelHead> Guest33790: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#977 [08:39] <VoxelHead> Guest33790: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#978 [08:39] <Helloman892> Guest33790: Download MCNostalgia to downgrade, or just do ^.
#979 [08:40] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#980 [08:40] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#981 [08:40] <Guest33790> so the best thing to do is probably wait
#982 [08:41] <lutzee> correct
#983 [08:41] <Guest33790> ok thanks!
#984 [08:41] <Helloman892> I love ore xp.
#985 [08:41] <Roshiny> I'm having a problem with my updated server as well. Everything's up to 1.3.1 and all patched and stuff, but I'm getting the "End of Stream" message as I try to log in. Dunno what's up, and as it's my own server I know it's all done and dusted.
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#987 [08:43] <AssassinsMod_> hi all
#988 [08:46] <lutzee> hey
#989 [08:46] <lutzee> Roshiny, do you see anything i the server console?
#990 [08:46] <lutzee> about you trying to connect?
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#993 [08:50] <cdt35> I'm having problems with the new nonpremium demo, its stuck at the done loading screen.
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#995 [08:51] <AssassinsMod_> :/ have you got java 6 or 7
#996 [08:52] <lutzee> Hmm at the moment (the system being new) we haven't much experience with it
#997 [08:52] <cdt35> 6
#998 [08:52] <lutzee> cdt35, what antivirus do you use?
#999 [08:52] <cdt35> Norton 360 (newest update)
#1000 [08:53] <rymate1234> small issue with minecraft on arch linux
#1001 [08:53] <rymate1234> I can't go full screen
#1002 [08:53] <rymate1234> The minecraft window just goes blank
#1003 [08:54] <rymate1234> doesn't work ingame or in the menu
#1004 [08:54] <rymate1234> Not entirely sure why
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#1006 [08:55] <MaKs^WeLL> Hello there
#1007 [08:55] <MaKs^WeLL> Could you help me ?
#1008 [08:55] <rymate1234> .ask
#1009 [08:56] <rymate1234> yes if you ask
#1010 [08:56] <rymate1234> lol
#1011 [08:56] <lutzee> ??? MaKs^WeLL telepathy
#1012 [08:56] <lutzee> ??> MaKs^WeLL telepathy
#1013 [08:56] <VoxelHead> MaKs^WeLL: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1014 [08:56] <VoxelHead> MaKs^WeLL: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
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#1016 [08:56] <lutzee> -.-
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#1018 [08:56] <MaKs^WeLL> Yes
#1019 [08:57] <MaKs^WeLL> I've bought an account gespover from my friend. I tried to change password and email, but i couldn't cause he didn't said me answer on questions for here https://account.mojang.com/me/challenge . Please help me to restore answers or just change email and password, cause i want have own password for this account i've bought.
#1020 [08:57] <rymate1234> Y u no buy minecraft from minecraft.net :P
#1021 [08:57] <MaKs^WeLL> I boutght account
#1022 [08:58] <MaKs^WeLL> And i wanna change email and pass for it
#1023 [08:58] <MaKs^WeLL> Really
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#1025 [08:58] <lutzee> MaKs^WeLL, you can't you should buy your own account
#1026 [08:59] <MaKs^WeLL> Cuz my friend offered me his account not so expensive
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#1028 [08:59] <lutzee> We are community support and have no affliation with mojang, we cannot so much as see the email address you used
#1029 [08:59] <EddyM> Hello everyone, i have an aspire7740 and minecraft runs great on it, but i have the problem that my avatar walks when i let go of my walk button, does anyone know the solution to this?
#1030 [08:59] <MaKs^WeLL> So i need to write a letter to Mojang ?
#1031 [09:00] <lutzee> EddyM, known issue, which can't be fixed as yet
#1032 [09:00] <lutzee> MaKs^WeLL, they will tell you that you should not have bought the account from your friend and refuse to help
#1033 [09:00] <lutzee> you friend must be the person to contact them
#1034 [09:00] <MaKs^WeLL> Oh
#1035 [09:00] <MaKs^WeLL> Well, thanks anyways
#1036 [09:01] <EddyM> okay to bad, its a bit anoying esspecially near lava lol
#1037 [09:02] <EddyM> best solution have always you bucket of water with you i guess, thx for the fast response anyways
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#1039 [09:04] <cdt35> Anyone else having (nonpremium) demo issues?(minecraft.exe)
#1040 [09:04] <cdt35> do i need to delete a folder or something?
#1041 [09:05] <DiskDaemon> The demo is only available if a premium member has first logged in to allow the game to be downloaded.
#1042 [09:05] <cdt35> oh ok :/ "free" demo
#1043 [09:06] <Necrodoom> pretty much
#1044 [09:06] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that is an issue. Thank you for letting us know about it.
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#1047 [09:22] <BOOMDOOM> I need help
#1048 [09:22] <lutzee> ?? ask
#1049 [09:22] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1050 [09:22] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1051 [09:24] <BOOMDOOM> ok.. I am trying to play the demo of minecraft and i downloaded it and when I run it it says done loading and the bar isnt at the end yet and just stays there
#1052 [09:25] <lutzee> The demo is only available if a premium member has first logged in to allow the game to be downloaded. this is a known problem i believe
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#1054 [09:26] <BOOMDOOM> so how am i able too play the free version then
#1055 [09:27] <Necrodoom> you cant
#1056 [09:27] <lutzee> sigh atm, seems to just be a problem we can't help with, if you have a friend with the game you can get them to log in on your PC and then you should be able to load the demo
#1057 [09:27] <Boreeas> Which makes the demo pretty useless
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#1059 [09:27] <BOOMDOOM> So i cant try it at all?
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#1061 [09:31] <Sir_Brock> is the skin uploading not working for anyone else?
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#1064 [09:33] <Guitarguy1133> every1
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#1066 [09:33] <Guitarguy1133> theyre already working on it from what i understand
#1067 [09:34] <Guitarguy1133> if u downgrade to 1.2.5 ur skin will change but as soion as u go back to 1.3.1 it switches back
#1068 [09:34] <Guitarguy1133> something about the client not resocnizing skin changes. idk y tho
#1069 [09:34] <Guitarguy1133> reconizing
#1070 [09:35] <MrGlasic> Hello, does somebody know why my launcher will freeze while downloading the new patch ?
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#1073 [09:36] <Kong> update to 1.3.1
#1074 [09:37] <Kong> after updated can not play in multiplayer
#1075 [09:37] <Guitarguy1133> the servers r outdated more than likely
#1076 [09:37] <Guitarguy1133> you'll have to find servers on 1.3.1
#1077 [09:37] <lutzee> ??> Kong smp/recentupdate
#1078 [09:37] <VoxelHead> Kong: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#1079 [09:37] <VoxelHead> Kong: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#1080 [09:38] <Kong> so how to find the new update servers...
#1081 [09:38] <Guitarguy1133> at minecarft forums theres a drop down. select 1.3 servers
#1082 [09:38] <lutzee> wait till the servers you play on update to the new build?
#1083 [09:39] <Kong> OK understood mate
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#1085 [09:41] <chi3f700> hey
#1086 [09:42] <chi3f700> i need help.
#1087 [09:42] <lutzee> ?? ask
#1088 [09:42] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1089 [09:42] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1090 [09:42] <chi3f700> well
#1091 [09:42] <chi3f700> my skin wont change.
#1092 [09:42] <Sir_Brock> haha
#1093 [09:42] <chi3f700> ive changed it a few times
#1094 [09:42] <chi3f700> and now its stuck at o
#1095 [09:42] <Sir_Brock> it's a current bug chi3f700
#1096 [09:42] <Sir_Brock> apparently being worked on
#1097 [09:42] <chi3f700> ok
#1098 [09:42] <Sir_Brock> I'm having the same issue
#1099 [09:42] <chi3f700> thanx
#1100 [09:42] <Sir_Brock> that is why I'm here :P
#1101 [09:42] <Sir_Brock> np
#1102 [09:42] <chi3f700> i just want my ninja skin
#1103 [09:43] <chi3f700> LOl
#1104 [09:43] <Sir_Brock> :)
#1105 [09:43] <chi3f700> playing 1.3?
#1106 [09:43] <Sir_Brock> a little
#1107 [09:43] <Sir_Brock> was going to re-enact a pvp rage I saw yesterday
#1108 [09:43] <chi3f700> eh atleast i got a miner skinf for now.
#1109 [09:43] <Sir_Brock> never seen rage in video game form so clearly :P
#1110 [09:43] <chi3f700> ohhh
#1111 [09:44] <chi3f700> wanna see a vid that will make u shat urself?
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#1113 [09:44] <Sir_Brock> sure
#1114 [09:44] <Sir_Brock> I need to empty my bowels a little
#1115 [09:45] <chi3f700> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGytEE8zsOE
#1116 [09:45] <chi3f700> jsut the scariest herobrine video there is
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#1121 [10:08] <Chaotic_Void> has modloader been updated yet? I found a few links on other websites but after I updated it the game wouldn't run
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#1124 [10:11] <lutzee> No
#1125 [10:11] <lutzee> don't ask
#1126 [10:11] <lutzee> it will be ready when you see it on the forum page
#1127 [10:12] <Chaotic_Void> I asked because I found it on another website
#1128 [10:12] <Chaotic_Void> and I don't usually get mods from the official forums
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#1130 [10:12] <lutzee> Nope only trust from the official forums
#1131 [10:12] <lutzee> because thats why they are official..
#1132 [10:13] <Chaotic_Void> thanks...
#1133 [10:15] <Flobbert> Hey guys I need a little bit of help, I'm having an issue in which when I try to play minecraft, the game only runs for about 30s-1m before the game screen goes white and I get a message from AMD saying that the AMD driver has stopped working and recovered successfully. Windows task manager says that the game is still running so I think it has to do with the graphics card or driver, so I upgraded the driver,
#1134 [10:16] <lutzee> hmm
#1135 [10:16] <lutzee> definately graphics
#1136 [10:16] <lutzee> ??> Flobbert win/dxdiag
#1137 [10:16] <VoxelHead> Flobbert: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1138 [10:16] <VoxelHead> Flobbert: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1142 [10:18] <Flobbert> http://pastebin.com/KJ6acXkJ
#1143 [10:20] <lutzee> hmmm, never like seeing decent spec PC's graphics failing
#1144 [10:20] <lutzee> where did you update the drivers from/
#1145 [10:20] <lutzee> ?
#1146 [10:21] <Flobbert> lutzee: I got them from the sony vaio website, and made sure that the drivers were for my model only
#1147 [10:21] <Flobbert> or rather, designed for my model
#1148 [10:21] <lutzee> Oh course sony, they don't like using ati/amd official drivers,
#1149 [10:22] <lutzee> i have a viao ;) but even so odd that it would crash the driver
#1150 [10:22] <Flobbert> yeah, that's what AMD said, they said to check with the manufacturer cause the 6630M wasn't supported
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#1152 [10:22] <Flobbert> any idea what could be causing the problem?
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#1155 [10:23] <Flobbert> lutzee: or rather a way to fix it?
#1156 [10:24] <lutzee> Er if the graphics do not support the version of OpenGL (the graphics library minecraft uses) i doubt you can play on that laptop
#1157 [10:24] <lutzee> :/
#1158 [10:25] <Flobbert> how can I find out if the graphics don't support the version of OpenGL D:
#1159 [10:27] <MrSethward> Minecraft Client won't install through the minecraft.exe downloaded from minecraft.net (attempting to play as demo). As is common, remains stuck on "Done Loading", leaving an empty bin folder. Have tried deleting .minecraft and then running, as well as deleting .minecraft and using Force Update. Have tried while disabling antivirus. Any other options??
#1160 [10:27] <lutzee> Flobbert, i really have no clue
#1161 [10:27] <lutzee> it should be fine
#1162 [10:27] <lutzee> The demo is only available if a premium member has first logged in to allow the game to be downloaded. this is a known problem
#1163 [10:28] <MrSethward> Ahhhh. Thank you.
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#1165 [10:29] <Roshiny> Right. Still having the same problem as before, I've re-downloaded EVERYTHING, not just the server. As I try to log into the server, it still says "End of Stream" and won't let me on. Everything's new, everything's updated. The only thing that's the same is the map for the server that I was using before.
#1166 [10:30] <Guitarguy1133> save ur world data nd try making a new world
#1167 [10:30] <Flobbert> lutzee, does this clarify whether or not the graphics card I'm using should be compatible with OpenGL?http://feedback.wildfiregames.com/report/opengl/device/Radeon%20HD%206630M
#1168 [10:31] <lutzee> I saw it supports openGL 4.2
#1169 [10:31] <lutzee> 4.1*
#1170 [10:31] <lutzee> minecraft uses 1.8.3 i believe
#1171 [10:31] <lutzee> meaning it should be fine
#1172 [10:31] <lutzee> but it's not
#1173 [10:31] <Roshiny> New world brings up the same message, "End of Stream" and won't let me on.
#1174 [10:32] <lutzee> Roshiny, this is a server ran from your PC right?
#1175 [10:32] <Roshiny> Yup
#1176 [10:32] <Guitarguy1133> use bukkit instead ^_^
#1177 [10:32] <lutzee> running minecraft from the same PC?
#1178 [10:32] <Roshiny> Yup
#1179 [10:33] <Flobbert> so basically we don't know why this is happening, and it shouldn't be happening but it is... :(
#1180 [10:33] <lutzee> and trying to connect via localhost?
#1181 [10:33] <lutzee> Flobbert, pretty much, :(
#1182 [10:33] <Flobbert> greaat. any ideas where I could go from here to try to get this fixed?
#1183 [10:33] <lutzee> not entirely sure
#1184 [10:34] <lutzee> i mean might have to use a different PC
#1185 [10:34] <Roshiny> I get a message on the server as I try to log in, like [INFO] /**.***.**.**:20172 lost connection.
#1186 [10:34] <Roshiny> the 20172 number, whatever comes up, I assume is meant to be 25565
#1187 [10:34] <Flobbert> okay, thanks for all your help lutzee, much appreciated
#1188 [10:34] <lutzee> Roshiny, nope not the problem
#1189 [10:35] <Roshiny> Mmh... Then I'm lost. I've done everything I can think of.
#1190 [10:35] <lutzee> make sure you are using "localhost" as server address
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#1192 [10:37] <Roshiny> Got an idea, trying something...
#1193 [10:37] <Roshiny> nope, didn't work. what did you mean by using "localhost" as the server address?
#1194 [10:39] <lutzee> the server address, if playing the game on the same machine as the server is running on, set the server address in the game to localhost
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#1196 [10:39] <Lukario45> Hi i have a question
#1197 [10:39] <lutzee> ?? ask
#1198 [10:39] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1199 [10:39] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1200 [10:41] <Flobbert> lutzee: is there a possibility that this is occurring cause not enough RAM is allocated to the game?
#1201 [10:41] <lutzee> Flobbert, unlikely
#1202 [10:41] <lutzee> I can run the game on a netbook that has 1gb of ram by assigning 512mb of memory
#1203 [10:43] <Lukario45> Lets say i was going to Make a custtom session server could it be written in C# or do i have to right it in Java?
#1204 [10:43] <Roshiny> I still don't know where to put this "localhost" setting in. I can't find anything that lets me change a server address.
#1205 [10:44] <Lukario45> Edit xD
#1206 [10:46] <Roshiny> So... Changing the server address. How do I do that?
#1207 [10:47] <lutzee> okay
#1208 [10:47] <lutzee> add a new server to the server list
#1209 [10:47] <lutzee> in the server address box but localhost
#1210 [10:47] <lutzee> save
#1211 [10:48] <Lukario45> Lets say i was going to Make a custtom session server could it be written in C# or do i have to right it in Java?
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#1214 [10:49] <Lukario45> :C
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#1216 [10:51] <Roshiny> Right, I've done that. New server with the address "localhost"
#1217 [10:51] <Roshiny> Still not letting me on, same message is coming up "End of Stream"
#1218 [10:53] <lutzee> End of stream isn't really helpful theres not much i can say to help
#1219 [10:53] <lutzee> Lukario45, why do you need that?
#1220 [10:53] <lutzee> the session servers are to auth if users are premium,
#1221 [10:53] <Lukario45> I know tht
#1222 [10:54] <Lukario45> -_-
#1223 [10:54] <lutzee> If you don't have the user DB then it's pretty useless
#1224 [10:54] <Lukario45> I mean i want to make a custom server software like craftbukkit does it have to be in java?
#1225 [10:55] <Lukario45> I get them mixed up
#1226 [10:55] <Roshiny> That's all that's coming up. It tries to log in, fails then says "End of Stream", there's literally nothing else I can tell you :<
#1227 [10:55] <lutzee> Er yes it does
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#1229 [10:55] <Lukario45> dang it cant be in c#?
#1230 [10:55] <lutzee> nope, because of packets
#1231 [10:56] <Lukario45> :/
#1232 [10:56] <Lukario45> Ok
#1233 [10:56] <lutzee> unless you can do some magic with the packets
#1234 [10:56] <Lukario45> Btw what do u call server like java
#1235 [10:56] <Lukario45> oops
#1236 [10:56] <Lukario45> like craftbukkit
#1237 [10:57] <lutzee> just a minecraft server?
#1238 [10:57] <Lukario45> yes
#1239 [10:57] <lutzee> well exactly that ^
#1240 [10:57] <Lukario45> kk
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#1242 [10:58] <Merpanator100> hi
#1243 [10:58] <Merpanator100> I cant change my skin
#1244 [10:58] <lutzee> There is a known problems with the Skins system atm, it is being worked on
#1245 [10:58] <Merpanator100> when i try i still my old skin
#1246 [10:59] <Merpanator100> ok ill just wait thanks
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#1249 [11:05] <Tman> Hello
#1250 [11:05] <Tman> anyone there?
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#1252 [11:06] <Tman> hello
#1253 [11:06] <Tman> argh
#1254 [11:06] <Tman> nobody be answerin me
#1255 [11:07] <lutzee> sorru
#1256 [11:07] <lutzee> Tman, problem?
#1257 [11:07] <Tman> i updated to 1.3.1
#1258 [11:07] <Tman> and it broke all my textures
#1259 [11:08] <Tman> even default
#1260 [11:08] <Tman> especially default actually
#1261 [11:08] <lutzee> er broke in what way?
#1262 [11:08] <Tman> ummm
#1263 [11:08] <Tman> hard to explain
#1264 [11:08] <Tman> here ill take a screenshot and give it to you by a link okay?
#1265 [11:08] <lutzee> take an image?
#1266 [11:10] <Tman> the breaking-ness lowers on higher res tp's but it doesn tgo away
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#1268 [11:10] <lutzee> mkay just get the screenshot
#1269 [11:11] <Tman> im going to take 2
#1270 [11:11] <Tman> one of title screen one of items
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#1272 [11:12] <Guest> Hi. I am trying to host a server, but I am the only one who seems to be able to connect to it...
#1273 [11:12] <Guest> Can anyone help with this ?
#1274 [11:13] <lutzee> Guest, you need to set up port forwarding on your router
#1275 [11:13] <Guest> lutzee: I did
#1276 [11:13] <lutzee> !check 24.236.135.202
#1277 [11:13] <lutzee> Guest it hasn't worked
#1278 [11:14] <Guest> lutzee: That's odd. I am looking at the rule on my router config page...
#1279 [11:14] <Guest> lutzee: Would uploading a screenshot help?
#1280 [11:14] <Tman> heres one: http://postimage.org/image/kdveuc0g5/
#1281 [11:15] <Tman> heres another http://postimage.org/image/92sr5ytl1/
#1282 [11:15] <Tman> do you know what this is about?
#1283 [11:15] <Guest> I mean of my config page...
#1284 [11:15] <lutzee> Tman, that is indeed odd, and i guess the only reason would be graphics problems
#1285 [11:15] <lutzee> Guest, sure
#1286 [11:16] <Tman> i forced updated and everything
#1287 [11:16] <Tman> still not fixed
#1288 [11:16] <lutzee> ??> Tman win/dxdiag
#1289 [11:16] <VoxelHead> Tman: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1290 [11:16] <VoxelHead> Tman: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1291 [11:16] <Tman> and it messes up my tekkit textures when i play tekkit but those screenshots were from vanilla
#1292 [11:17] <Guest> lutzee: http://i.imgur.com/FvLFF.png
#1293 [11:17] <Necrodoom> Tman: theres no tekkit for 1.3.1...
#1294 [11:17] <Tman> i know
#1295 [11:17] <Tman> it messes up
#1296 [11:17] <Tman> even when i go to 1.2.5
#1297 [11:18] <Tman> http://pastebin.com/94vD43jX
#1298 [11:19] <lutzee> Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family, graphics might be a problem, seen a lot of problems with it
#1299 [11:19] <lutzee> ?? gpu/intel
#1300 [11:19] <VoxelHead> gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1301 [11:19] <Guest> Any idea
#1302 [11:19] <Tman> okay
#1303 [11:19] <Guest> ?
#1304 [11:19] <Tman> what do i do there
#1305 [11:19] <lutzee> Guest, what model is your router
#1306 [11:19] <Tman> click gra[hics?
#1307 [11:20] <Tman> graphics
#1308 [11:20] <lutzee> Tman, fine the drivers for Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
#1309 [11:20] <Guest> lutzee: DIR-645 by DLink
#1310 [11:20] <Guest> lutzee: I used the guide for it at portforward.com
#1311 [11:21] <lutzee> Is the server running atm?
#1312 [11:21] <Guest> No, one second
#1313 [11:22] <Guest> lutzee: Okay, it is now
#1314 [11:22] <Tman> ummmi cant find anything with 4 series chipset
#1315 [11:22] <lutzee> !check 24.236.135.202
#1316 [11:22] <Guest> I don't get it....
#1317 [11:22] <Guest> It's simple...
#1318 [11:22] <lutzee> guest you are sure you ported to the right IP internally?
#1319 [11:22] <Guest> Yes
#1320 [11:23] <Tman> oop i found it
#1321 [11:24] <Tman> it says page not found
#1322 [11:24] <Tman> when i click Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
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#1324 [11:28] <Tman> ...
#1325 [11:28] <Guest> lutzee: The internal IP that you use for the port is the IPv4, correct?
#1326 [11:29] <lutzee> Tman we can't help if a website won't work
#1327 [11:29] <lutzee> guest yes it is an ipv4 address
#1328 [11:29] <Tman> :(
#1329 [11:29] <Guest> lutzee: I'm not really sure what to do...
#1330 [11:29] <lutzee> Tman, they are only small graphical bugs, though
#1331 [11:30] <Tman> you dont know how much it does to tekkit
#1332 [11:30] <Tman> and leaves
#1333 [11:30] <Tman> and other peopel skins
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#1335 [11:31] <Tman> i think i found a working one
#1336 [11:31] <Guest> lutzee: Do you have any ideas?
#1337 [11:31] <Tman> its ont teh intel site
#1338 [11:31] <lutzee> We don't support mods here, and i despise tekkit anyway :p
#1339 [11:31] <lutzee> Guest, nope port forwarding is not working
#1340 [11:32] <Guest> lutzee: Okay
#1341 [11:32] <Helloman892> lutzee: I don't despise it, but it is pretty damn illegal.
#1342 [11:32] <Tman> well it messes with other peoples skins too, i think thats kinda wierd
#1343 [11:33] <lutzee> wait wait
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#1345 [11:33] <lutzee> you have optifine installed?
#1346 [11:33] <Tman> no
#1347 [11:33] <Tman> only with tekkit
#1348 [11:33] <Tman> because it coems with it
#1349 [11:33] <Helloman892> Tman: Tekkit isn't supported here.
#1350 [11:33] <lutzee> Optifine is buggy with some things
#1351 [11:33] <Tman> and it only started when i updated
#1352 [11:33] <Helloman892> lutzee: Agreed T_T
#1353 [11:34] <Helloman892> OptiFine is great, but bug-filled.
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#1355 [11:35] <Tman> apperently windows 7 home premium 64 bit isnt supposed to have that kind of chipset family thing
#1356 [11:35] <nikkiefield> hello
#1357 [11:35] <lutzee> tman the hardware is old
#1358 [11:36] <lutzee> hi nikkiefield
#1359 [11:36] <Helloman892> Tman: I have Win7 Home Premium x64.
#1360 [11:36] <Roshiny> Now I've got a new problem as well as the old one... I don't seem to have actually got ANY of the updates. Can't make books, can't plant cocoa beans on jungle logs, nothing.
#1361 [11:36] <Tman> i got teh computer last year
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#1363 [11:36] <Helloman892> Oh, I forgot to add that I also have SP1.
#1364 [11:36] <xy> ??> Roshiny forceupdate
#1365 [11:36] <VoxelHead> Roshiny: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1366 [11:36] <VoxelHead> Roshiny: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1367 [11:36] <Helloman892> xy: Where've you been all day XD
#1368 [11:37] <nikkiefield> yeah can you guys help me with a problem i have in the game?
#1369 [11:37] <Helloman892> Sure.
#1370 [11:37] <xy> Helloman892: I am trying to make my server 1.3 :P
#1371 [11:37] <Helloman892> Fire away.
#1372 [11:37] <Helloman892> xy: Ah, got ot.
#1373 [11:37] <Helloman892> it
#1374 [11:37] <Roshiny> Alrighty, I've hit the forceupdate button and hit done. What now?
#1375 [11:37] <xy> Roshiny: now log in
#1376 [11:37] <Helloman892> Let it do it's thing.
#1377 [11:38] <nikkiefield> the thing is that when ever i press save and quit and go back ing the game , everything i made is gone!
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#1380 [11:38] <Helloman892> nikkiefield: Never heard of this one before.
#1381 [11:39] <Roshiny> ... I love you guys. I trawled the internet for about two hours looking up how to fix this, and all I had to do was hit two buttons. Thanks for the help!
#1382 [11:39] <nikkiefield> oh and when i typed ing i meant in
#1383 [11:39] <Helloman892> No problem, we do it all day long for free so thanks are appriciated. XD
#1384 [11:39] <xy> nikkiefield: Singleplayer, right? Make sure you load the right world.
#1385 [11:39] <Helloman892> xy: I think that one's obvious.
#1386 [11:40] <xy> Helloman892: just making sure :P
#1387 [11:40] <nikkiefield> i do load the same ecact world
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#1389 [11:40] <Helloman892> xy: Ok.
#1390 [11:40] <Helloman892> nikkiefield: Also ok.
#1391 [11:40] <nikkiefield> im misspelling alot of words
#1392 [11:40] <xy> nikkiefield: What's the name of the world? there are some names which glitch minecraft (you cannot name a world "com" on windows for example)
#1393 [11:41] <Helloman892> Ok, does it happen on any other world? And, xy, why is that?
#1394 [11:41] <nikkiefield> i will check
#1395 [11:41] <jtrlnd> Hello, I've got a problem with miecraft, it's something wrong with the mouse, (or so it says in the crash report) When i do something the screen just goes brown, and shows me the crash report. You can read the crash report here: http://pastebin.com/d7JC6QFc
#1396 [11:41] <xy> Helloman892: umm, windows reserves file names like COM, PRN, NUL, etc for device files.
#1397 [11:41] <Helloman892> Oh, right.
#1398 [11:42] <xy> jtrlnd: What kind of mouse are you using? some Apple Magic something?
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#1400 [11:43] <Helloman892> Hmm, I believe someone told me that OSX can't take Java 1.5.
#1401 [11:43] <Helloman892> 1.6*
#1402 [11:43] <jtrlnd> I am musing a logitech usb mouse, but I had the same kind of trouble when i disconnected it and played with the built in trackpad
#1403 [11:43] <xy> Helloman892: OSX has included java.
#1404 [11:43] <nikkiefield> could not get name computer too slow
#1405 [11:44] <jtrlnd> I have a Macbook air 13", the latest version with Ivy bridge processor
#1406 [11:45] <Helloman892> Oh, right, but as I said, I thought that Java didn't have anything better then 1.5.0 for Mac.
#1407 [11:45] <lutzee> Ahh
#1408 [11:45] <xy> jtrlnd: which version of OSX is installed?
#1409 [11:45] <jtrlnd> Okay, so what should I do?
#1410 [11:45] <jtrlnd> I have 10.8
#1411 [11:45] <jtrlnd> aka Mountain Lion
#1412 [11:45] <lutzee> well is the air really designed for minecraft ? :o
#1413 [11:45] <Helloman892> No.
#1414 [11:46] <Helloman892> It's specs just aren't good enough, I believe.
#1415 [11:46] <jtrlnd> But it should still be able to play minecraft although it isn't a gaming computer
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#1417 [11:46] <Cueball_> Hey all. How can I make my land non snow biorb?
#1418 [11:46] <jtrlnd> I am able to play Mafia II
#1419 [11:46] <Helloman892> It should, but laptops aren't great.
#1420 [11:47] <xy> Cueball_: you want to change biomes?
#1421 [11:47] <Helloman892> Mafia II is nowhere near as intensive as Minecraft.
#1422 [11:47] <Cueball_> Yeah that's what I meant LoL
#1423 [11:47] <jtrlnd> Okay, but I have 8 gb ram, shouldn't that do the trick?
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#1425 [11:47] <xy> Cueball_: You could use MCEdit or install mods, although mods are not supported in here
#1426 [11:47] <ITHEMINEGOD> hey
#1427 [11:47] <Helloman892> jtrlnd: RAM doesn't mean ANYTHING.
#1428 [11:48] <xy> jtrlnd: ram isn't the only thing that counts
#1429 [11:48] <Helloman892> ITHEMINEGOD: Hi.
#1430 [11:48] <ITHEMINEGOD> I need some serious help please
#1431 [11:48] <ITHEMINEGOD> with my minecraft
#1432 [11:48] <Helloman892> ??>> ITHEMINEGOD telepathy
#1433 [11:48] <lutzee> ??> ITHEMINEGOD telepathy
#1434 [11:48] <jtrlnd> okay, so what should I do?
#1435 [11:48] <Cueball_> xy: I have no GUI on the server and I can't find a non gui util
#1436 [11:48] <VoxelHead> ITHEMINEGOD: (telepathy) We are not telepathic, we cannot determine through divination what your problem is, we can be of no use to you unless you describe to us, in detail, exactly what problem you are having.
#1437 [11:48] <xy> Helloman892: damn! you were too fast :P
#1438 [11:48] <ITHEMINEGOD> hahah
#1439 [11:48] <Helloman892> lutzee >.>
#1440 [11:48] <ITHEMINEGOD> okay
#1441 [11:48] <Helloman892> xy: Caught you out that time :P
#1442 [11:48] <xy> Cueball_: oh, it is a server? a vanilla server?
#1443 [11:48] <ITHEMINEGOD> so i changed my skin and it worked normal right
#1444 [11:48] <Helloman892> Ok.
#1445 [11:49] <ITHEMINEGOD> but now i just want it back to normal
#1446 [11:49] <ITHEMINEGOD> and i changed it and it says it changed but it doesnt change in game
#1447 [11:49] <lutzee> Skin servers are having problems this is a known issue
#1448 [11:49] <Cueball_> xy: No it's tekkit. But I assume the process would be the same
#1449 [11:49] <Helloman892> I can't quite remember how to solve that one.
#1450 [11:49] <xy> ??> Cueball_ mods
#1451 [11:49] <ITHEMINEGOD> the skin messed up like i used mcedit
#1452 [11:49] <VoxelHead> Cueball_: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1453 [11:49] <lutzee> It is being worked on
#1454 [11:49] <VoxelHead> Cueball_: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1455 [11:49] <ITHEMINEGOD> and i forgot to remove the headgear xD so my guys face is blank and its annoying
#1456 [11:49] <Helloman892> Cueball_: Tekkit servers are based off of Bukkit, completely different beast.
#1457 [11:50] <xy> Cueball_: tekkit is a bukkit based server, so could ask in #bukkit how to install plugins. (the plugin WorldEdit does that)
#1458 [11:50] <Helloman892> ITHEMINEGOD: You need to re-boot Minecraft.
#1459 [11:50] <ITHEMINEGOD> i did
#1460 [11:50] <ITHEMINEGOD> :(
#1461 [11:51] <ITHEMINEGOD> i deleted it and everything
#1462 [11:51] <Helloman892> I have no idea.
#1463 [11:51] <Helloman892> Are you playing in offline mode?
#1464 [11:51] <Cueball_> Ok I didn't know that. I am new to Minecraft.
#1465 [11:51] <lutzee> ITHEMINEGOD, try uploading again
#1466 [11:51] <ITHEMINEGOD> im considering starting a new username and buying it again :(
#1467 [11:51] <Cueball_> Sorry for the confution
#1468 [11:51] <ITHEMINEGOD> i did like 50 times xD
#1469 [11:51] <lutzee> mollstam, just pushed something and says it should be fine
#1470 [11:51] <lutzee> like a minute ago
#1471 [11:51] <xy> ITHEMINEGOD: download the reference skin from minecraft.net and upload it as your skin.
#1472 [11:51] <Helloman892> ITHEMINEGOD: Why would you buy the game again just because of a skin?
#1473 [11:51] <ITHEMINEGOD> i did
#1474 [11:52] <ITHEMINEGOD> because haha my face is blank xD
#1475 [11:52] <ITHEMINEGOD> its annoying
#1476 [11:52] <Helloman892> It doesn't matter regardless.
#1477 [11:52] <Helloman892> Only other players will see your skin.
#1478 [11:52] <ITHEMINEGOD> yeah well idk what to do i wish i could get ahold of mojang
#1479 [11:52] <xy> ITHEMINEGOD: what's your minecraft username? (i could look ar your skin)
#1480 [11:53] <ITHEMINEGOD> okay its ITHEMINEGOD
#1481 [11:53] <ITHEMINEGOD> lol
#1482 [11:53] <Helloman892> !paid ITHEMINEGOD
#1483 [11:53] <Helloman892> Lol, checking XD
#1484 [11:53] <ITHEMINEGOD> haha yeah xD
#1485 [11:54] <jtrlnd> So, what should I do?
#1486 [11:54] <ITHEMINEGOD> duh :P its the right way
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#1488 [11:55] <Helloman892> jtrlnd: You obviously can't play the game, live with it.
#1489 [11:55] <ITHEMINEGOD> hahah xD^
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#1491 [11:55] <xy> ITHEMINEGOD: Your skin actually looks like this: http://goo.gl/F5Qex (link to a minecraft screenshot)
#1492 [11:55] <ITHEMINEGOD> so did u see my skin?
#1493 [11:55] <ITHEMINEGOD> ok
#1494 [11:55] <ITHEMINEGOD> WTF
#1495 [11:55] <Helloman892> Lol
#1496 [11:55] <jtrlnd> But I paid 20€ for the game! And on the website it says that i should be able to play it!
#1497 [11:56] <ITHEMINEGOD> THATS WHAT IT IS I WANTED IT TO BE
#1498 [11:56] <ITHEMINEGOD> BUT ON MINE ITS MY OLD SKIN :o
#1499 [11:56] <ITHEMINEGOD> wow this is weird xD
#1500 [11:56] <Helloman892> jtrlnd: It doesn't say anything about the specifications on the website.
#1501 [11:56] <jtrlnd> Well, then I want my money back!
#1502 [11:56] <Helloman892> We're not Mojang, we can't refund you.
#1503 [11:56] <ITHEMINEGOD> xD
#1504 [11:57] <ITHEMINEGOD> that is so weird
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#1506 [11:57] <ITHEMINEGOD> u seee it as my new skin
#1507 [11:57] <ITHEMINEGOD> but i seee the old :O
#1508 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> jtrlnd specs/lessrude
#1509 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> ??> jtrlnd requirements/lessrude
#1510 [11:57] <VoxelHead> jtrlnd: (requirements/lessrude) 1.5GiB of RAM (3 GiB if you want to run the server and client at the same time), a 2.4GHz or so per core CPU, and if you expect the world to get rather big, 100MB or so of hard drive space.
#1511 [11:57] <VoxelHead> jtrlnd: (requirements/lessrude) A server will use a lot of bandwidth, _per player_ because the world is in a constant state of flux.
#1512 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: What was your problem?
#1513 [11:58] <ITHEMINEGOD> lol let me show u the skin and why its annoying xD
#1514 [11:58] <Helloman892> jtrlnd: Sorry, but, seeing as we are in no way affliated with Mojang we can't give your money back.
#1515 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892: link to dxdiag please?
#1516 [11:58] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03: No offence, but butt out.
#1517 [11:58] <jtrlnd> http://pastebin.com/d7JC6QFc there you can see the crash report, it's something with my mouse/trackpad
#1518 [11:58] <ITHEMINEGOD> file:///C:/Users/Troy/AppData/Roaming/.minecraft/screenshots/2012-08-02_10.57.37.png
#1519 [11:58] <Helloman892> ??>> tyteen4a03 win/dxdiag
#1520 [11:59] <Helloman892> ITHEMINEGOD: You need to upload it to a photo-sharing site.
#1521 [11:59] <ITHEMINEGOD> haha i realized xD
#1522 [11:59] <xy> ITHEMINEGOD: Hello Troy :P
#1523 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: When did you buy this mac?
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#1525 [11:59] <ITHEMINEGOD> ELLO :D
#1526 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: or more precisely, what is the model of this mac, and when did you buy it?
#1527 [11:59] <ITHEMINEGOD> haha grr why is what i see my old skin tho :O
#1528 [12:00] <ITHEMINEGOD> ive reset and all that i even deleted the skin its crazy xD
#1529 [12:00] <xy> ITHEMINEGOD: are you behind a caching internet proxy?
#1530 [12:00] <jtrlnd> It's the newest MacBook Air and I bought it right after it was released (=15 july)
#1531 [12:00] <Helloman892> ITHEMINEGOD: Reboot your PC/Mac, that's the best I can think of.
#1532 [12:00] <ITHEMINEGOD> haha why?
#1533 [12:00] <ITHEMINEGOD> haha lol i did xD dude ive done it all
#1534 [12:00] <Helloman892> Because it coud catch your skin.
#1535 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892: Why would you consider a 2012 MacBook Air "old"?
#1536 [12:00] <ITHEMINEGOD> huh??
#1537 [12:00] <xy> ITHEMINEGOD: because the internet proxy might have cached your old skin
#1538 [12:00] <Malfunctiondown> The one server I have that shows that it does have a connection to gives me this message "Internal exception: java.netSocketException: Connection reset" Does that mean I need to update java?
#1539 [12:00] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03: I never said that.
#1540 [12:00] <ITHEMINEGOD> hmmm
#1541 [12:01] <jtrlnd> My specs are 1.8 GHz Intel Core i5, 8GB 1699 MHz DDR3
#1542 [12:01] <jtrlnd> 1600*
#1543 [12:01] <Helloman892> Malfunctiondown: You're trying to connect to an outdated server.
#1544 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: so the 15 inch model with no Retina? I can't remember
#1545 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1546 [12:01] <ITHEMINEGOD> I MEAN I EVEN WENT IN MINCRAFT.JAR AND CHANGED IT AND STILL Xd
#1547 [12:01] <jtrlnd> No, the 13" MacBook Air
#1548 [12:01] <ITHEMINEGOD> but u said that that was the skin you saw attached to me?
#1549 [12:01] <Helloman892> jtrlnd: You need at least a 1.9GHz CPU.
#1550 [12:02] <xy> tyteen4a03: to see factoids without spamming this channel woth commands, join ##voxelhead :P
#1551 [12:02] <Malfunctiondown> Helloman892: But the other servers only say they have no connection?
#1552 [12:02] <jtrlnd> Really? :(
#1553 [12:02] <xy> ITHEMINEGOD: was it really necessary to shout?
#1554 [12:02] <ITHEMINEGOD> haha no sorry friends
#1555 [12:02] <ITHEMINEGOD> xD
#1556 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> xy: there's another channel with voxelhead, I can use it from there, but ok :P
#1557 [12:02] <Boreeas> Helloman892: Where did you get that number?
#1558 [12:02] <Helloman892> Malfunctiondown: You have 1.3.1, they're on 1.2.5.
#1559 [12:02] <xy> tyteen4a03: aah, kk
#1560 [12:03] <Helloman892> Boreeas: I dunno, that's what my friend has, and he can barely play it.
#1561 [12:03] <lutzee> xy or just look here http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/
#1562 [12:03] <Malfunctiondown> Helloman892: So, I guess I'll just have to wait until they update those servers..
#1563 [12:03] <slowfi> I'm trying to figure out if something if wrong with my minecraft. Am Ithe only person who is unable to login to any multiplayer 1.3 server, or are they all still down with the new revision? Singleplayer works fine
#1564 [12:03] <Helloman892> Malfunctiondown: Yus.
#1565 [12:03] <ITHEMINEGOD> lol okay ima show u my old skin and why i want it changed xD
#1566 [12:04] <Malfunctiondown> Helloman892: Thank you again.
#1567 [12:04] <Helloman892> slowfi: Try black.realmc.net, it has 1.3.1.
#1568 [12:04] <Helloman892> (Only one I could think of)
#1569 [12:04] <xy> Helloman892: *cough* :P
#1570 [12:04] <Helloman892> xy: Yes?
#1571 [12:05] <xy> advertising servers, hmm? :P
#1572 [12:05] <Helloman892> Oh, right.
#1573 [12:05] <slowfi> Iok
#1574 [12:05] <Helloman892> Lol
#1575 [12:05] <Helloman892> slowfi: Could you get on?
#1576 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: Do you have a second monitor?
#1577 [12:06] <Helloman892> xy: Sorry :D
#1578 [12:06] <xy> slowfi: try running an 1.3 vanilla server on your computer and then connect to 127.0.0.1
#1579 [12:06] <Helloman892> Malfunctiondown: No probs.
#1580 [12:06] <jtrlnd> yes, I do, a HP L1706
#1581 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: Did you crash when you're trying to open the Inventory?
#1582 [12:07] <slowfi> I have no idea how to run an 1.3 vanilla server
#1583 [12:07] <jtrlnd> Inventory, door, chest, I think it's always when i right click
#1584 [12:08] <slowfi> I can't logon to realmc.net
#1585 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: Try disconnecting your second screen when playing Minecraft, it's an known bug on linux
#1586 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> s/linux/mac
#1587 [12:08] <Helloman892> slowfi: It's BLACK.realmc.net :P
#1588 [12:08] <jtrlnd> okay, I will try now
#1589 [12:09] <slowfi> ok I'll try BLACK.realmc.ne
#1590 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: then it should work, even if as slow as how Helloman892 described it
#1591 [12:09] <ITHEMINEGOD> http://www.flickr.com/photos/84155957@N08/7698650586/in/photostream look at this shit xD
#1592 [12:09] <jtrlnd> Now it works :D I hope it'll stay that way
#1593 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> jtrlnd: It will as long as you don't plug in a second monitor
#1594 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> It's causing problems for some reason
#1595 [12:10] <jtrlnd> Okay, Thanks very much guys! I really appreciate it! :D
#1596 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> No problem
#1597 [12:11] <Helloman892> Np.
#1598 [12:11] <slowfi> can't logon to BLACK.realmc.ne
#1599 [12:11] <Helloman892> net T_T
#1600 [12:11] <Helloman892> not ne
#1601 [12:11] <jtrlnd> Do you get paid for doing this?
#1602 [12:11] <Helloman892> Anyways, it appears to be your personal problem.
#1603 [12:11] <Helloman892> No.
#1604 [12:12] <Helloman892> I wish we did, though...
#1605 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892: It appears to be your incompatiability of googling further
#1606 [12:12] <slowfi> what's the real name if it isn't BLACK.realmc.ne?
#1607 [12:12] <Helloman892> it's black.realmc.neT T_T
#1608 [12:13] <Helloman892> Anyways, it was just a test. And you obviously have this problem regardless.
#1609 [12:13] <ITHEMINEGOD> helloman can u see if my skin is still that one?
#1610 [12:13] <slowfi> that doesn't even look like a kosher IP but I'll try it black.realmc.neT T_T
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#1612 [12:13] <Helloman892> OH. MY. GOD. YOU TROLLING BRO?
#1613 [12:13] <Helloman892> black.realmc.net
#1614 [12:14] <Nelli> hello can someone help me?
#1615 [12:14] <Helloman892> ^TEST IP^
#1616 [12:14] <xy> Nelli: yes, just ask
#1617 [12:14] <Nelli> ok
#1618 [12:14] <Helloman892> Sorry for my raging, I'm just irritated.
#1619 [12:14] <Boreeas> slowfi: That's a host. It will resolve to an ip
#1620 [12:14] <xy> Helloman892: seems many people don't know the difference between a hostname, a domain and an ip.
#1621 [12:14] <Boreeas> Helloman892: Hosts are case insensitive
#1622 [12:14] <Nelli> wen i tried to U prate it failed...
#1623 [12:14] <Helloman892> I know.
#1624 [12:14] <Boreeas> Also, please turn down the caps
#1625 [12:14] <Nelli> * Update
#1626 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> !check BLACK.realmc.ne
#1627 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> !check BLACK.realmc.net
#1628 [12:15] <Nelli> how do i fix it?
#1629 [12:15] <Helloman892> Thanksyou.
#1630 [12:15] <Helloman892> !check black.realmc.net
#1631 [12:15] <Helloman892> Lol
#1632 [12:15] <xy> ??> forceupdate Nelli
#1633 [12:15] <xy> fail
#1634 [12:15] <tyteen4a03> xy: reverse order
#1635 [12:15] <xy> ??> nelli forceupdate
#1636 [12:15] <Helloman892> I'm on it XD
#1637 [12:15] <VoxelHead> nelli: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
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#1639 [12:15] <VoxelHead> nelli: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1640 [12:15] <Nelli> i tried that bt it didn't work
#1641 [12:16] <the__sheep> my minecraft is laggy what should i do?
#1642 [12:16] <xy> Nelli: are you behind a proxy/firewall? Perhaps your AVP is blocking the connection.
#1643 [12:16] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03: You doubted it was a Minecraft server?
#1644 [12:16] <slowfi> can't login to black.realmc.net either. at least it's a real IP
#1645 [12:16] <xy> the__sheep: either get a better computer or install optifine
#1646 [12:16] <Nelli> no I'm not behind a firewall
#1647 [12:16] <Boreeas> slowfi: Does s.nerd.nu work?
#1648 [12:16] <Helloman892> the__sheep: Probably ^
#1649 [12:16] <Helloman892> !check s.nerd.nu
#1650 [12:16] <xy> (yes, i tell people to install mods, you may now lynch me)
#1651 [12:16] <slowfi> s.nerd does not work
#1652 [12:16] <Helloman892> Lol
#1653 [12:16] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892: no, it tells if it's a server problem or it's the user's problem
#1654 [12:16] <Helloman892> slowfi: READ GODDAMN.
#1655 [12:16] <Boreeas> slowfi: Remember the .nu at the end
#1656 [12:17] <Boreeas> Helloman892: Keep it down
#1657 [12:17] <the__sheep> whats optifine?
#1658 [12:17] <Helloman892> Boreeas: Sorry, I've had enough of this guy...
#1659 [12:17] <slowfi> can you connect to s.nerd.nu? I can't
#1660 [12:17] <Boreeas> Helloman892: No one forces you to keep it up
#1661 [12:17] <Helloman892> s.nerd.nu is clean and fine.
#1662 [12:18] <Helloman892> Oh wait; Boreeas? It's 1.2.5.
#1663 [12:18] <Boreeas> It apparently is
#1664 [12:18] <Helloman892> And this guy has 1.3.1.
#1665 [12:18] <Helloman892> ...
#1666 [12:18] <xy> the__sheep: #risucraft is the channel about modding. I'd recommend you to join there and ask how to install optifine.
#1667 [12:19] <ITHEMINEGOD> haha i love 1.3.1 :))
#1668 [12:19] <Helloman892> ITHEMINEGOD: Stop commenting so we can help people...
#1669 [12:19] <Helloman892> Please?
#1670 [12:19] <ITHEMINEGOD> i still need help :O
#1671 [12:19] <Nelli> plplease stop lol
#1672 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> ITHEMINEGOD: Please keep unnecessary and irrevalent messages down, there are currently multiple people who need help, thank you
#1673 [12:20] <Nelli> Let me tell yoU what is says
#1674 [12:20] <ITHEMINEGOD> I NEED HELP -.-
#1675 [12:20] <Helloman892> Stop commenting, PLEASE. 'haha i love 1.3.1 :))' 'lol okay ima show u my old skin and why i want it changed xD'
#1676 [12:21] <Necrodoom> ITHEMINEGOD: your response: email mojang
#1677 [12:21] <xy> *sigh
#1678 [12:21] <Necrodoom> cant help with billing issues
#1679 [12:21] <Helloman892> Someone kick me. So I don't feel bad for leaving.
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#1681 [12:21] <slowfi> I think I'll have to reset my username and password at minecraft.org using the email they sent when I paid for it. I must do thus regularly or else I can't login to any multiplayer server. Does this happen to others? How do I fix it?
#1682 [12:21] <Boreeas> ITHEMINEGOD: More specific, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1683 [12:21] <ITHEMINEGOD> i need with my skin -.-
#1684 [12:21] <Helloman892> Boreeas: Kick meh.
#1685 [12:21] <ITHEMINEGOD> okay thanks
#1686 [12:21] <Boreeas> Helloman892: Kick yourself
#1687 [12:21] <Helloman892> ...Please.
#1688 [12:21] <Boreeas> With !kick
#1689 [12:21] <Helloman892> !kick
#1690 [12:22] <Helloman892> Oh, I see.
#1691 [12:22] <Nelli> My screen when it i try to update it it says Fatal Error Occurred (4)
#1692 [12:22] <Helloman892> !kick Helloman892
#1693 [12:22] <Boreeas> Oh, it used to kick you
#1694 [12:22] <Helloman892> Apparantly not.
#1695 [12:22] <Boreeas> Too bad
#1696 [12:22] <ITHEMINEGOD> nelli restart it
#1697 [12:22] <Nelli> Restart wats?
#1698 [12:22] <ITHEMINEGOD> i had that error to
#1699 [12:22] <Helloman892> Can't you just kick me XD I feel really bad when I leave this channel when people need help.
#1700 [12:22] <ITHEMINEGOD> minecraft
#1701 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> Nelli: What is the error message next to it? Or is there none?
#1702 [12:23] <Nelli> like how
#1703 [12:23] <xy> Nelli: it looks like your Antivirus program is interfering to me.
#1704 [12:23] <Nelli> what program?
#1705 [12:23] <Helloman892> !help
#1706 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> Nelli: AntiVirus programs or Firewalls
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#1708 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> examples include Avast, Norton, Kapaskery, NOD32, McAfee, etc
#1709 [12:24] <Xarkes> Hey does anyone know how to put emerald into the ground of my server ? At the moment, it is like the 1.2.5 version
#1710 [12:24] <lutzee> Xarkes, explor new land
#1711 [12:24] <lutzee> note they only spawn in extreme hill biome
#1712 [12:24] <lutzee> or, place them manually :D
#1713 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> finally, he's gone
#1714 [12:25] <Nelli> If I RESTARt My MINECRAFt WILl It STILl KEEp My SINGLe PLAYEr WOurld ?
#1715 [12:25] <xy> Nelli: yes
#1716 [12:25] <xy> also, please don't use caps.
#1717 [12:25] <Nelli> so how do i trash it right?
#1718 [12:25] <Nelli> I have a mac
#1719 [12:25] <Xarkes> lutzee: they only spawn in extreme hill biome ?
#1720 [12:26] <xy> Nelli: With restart we mean close the minecraft window and open it again
#1721 [12:26] <Xarkes> lutzee: And, it will be hard to explore new land >< The map is already big
#1722 [12:26] <ITHEMINEGOD> helloman can u please checck if my skin is the one it is suppsoed to be?
#1723 [12:26] <xy> Xarkes: then, use some inventory editor and cheat things in? :P
#1724 [12:26] <Nelli> It did not work
#1725 [12:26] <xy> ITHEMINEGOD: Helloman went away.
#1726 [12:27] <ITHEMINEGOD> OMG IT WORKS!! :p haha thanks everyone you have been a huge help :)
#1727 [12:27] <lutzee> Xarkes, you also have the option of interating with villagers to aquire them
#1728 [12:27] <Xarkes> xy: Lawl, I just want my players to mine it on their own way
#1729 [12:28] <Nelli> if i trash the mine craft completely and redownload off mine craft.net will it keep my single player world and automatically update?
#1730 [12:28] <xy> Xarkes: oh, you're talking about a server
#1731 [12:28] <xy> i thought you meant a singleplayer world
#1732 [12:28] <Xarkes> xy: Yes, sorry if I didn't say it
#1733 [12:28] <Nelli> were you talking to me Xarkes?
#1734 [12:28] <Xarkes> Nelli: No
#1735 [12:29] <Nelli> oh
#1736 [12:29] <Nelli> somebody help me!!!!!!!!!!
#1737 [12:29] <xy> good guy VoxelHead
#1738 [12:30] <Nelli> who are you talking to?
#1739 [12:30] <xy> Nelli: you were temporarily muted by an automatic bot. You can now speak again. Do not use exclamation marks that excessively to avoid that in future.
#1740 [12:30] <Nelli> ok
#1741 [12:30] <Nelli> but can i have help
#1742 [12:31] <Nelli> if i trash the mine craft completely and redownload off mine craft.net will it keep my single player world and automatically update?
#1743 [12:33] <Xarkes> nelli: You just wanna keep safe your worlds ?
#1744 [12:33] <Calinou> if you delete the whole .minecraft folder: no
#1745 [12:34] <Calinou> if you delete everything but the "saves" folder: yes
#1746 [12:34] <Xarkes> Here's your answer
#1747 [12:34] <Nelli> yes i want to keep my single player world
#1748 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: Is Minecraft.dmg the same as Minecraft.exe? (or is the dmg variant a pointer to all files created)
#1749 [12:34] <Calinou> (if you want to keep _all_ your data: do not delete options.txt, servers.dat and texturepacks folder)
#1750 [12:34] <Calinou> tyteen4a03, not at all
#1751 [12:35] <Calinou> minecraft.exe == minecraft.jar with a wrapper to always run it with java and with a cool icon
#1752 [12:35] <Calinou> minecraft.dmg is specific for OS X of course...
#1753 [12:35] <Calinou> but you can use the .jar on ANY OS
#1754 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> I see, I have no idea what dmgs really do under the hood
#1755 [12:36] <Nelli> im not really good at all this and i don't have a texture pack i only want to save my single player world
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#1757 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> Nelli: Just delete everything in .minecraft except the saves folder
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#1759 [12:38] <Nelli> ho
#1760 [12:38] <Nelli> how
#1761 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nelli mac/reinst/bat
#1762 [12:38] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nelli mac/reinst/sh
#1763 [12:39] <Nelli> where do i type that?
#1764 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nelli mac/reinst
#1765 [12:39] <VoxelHead> Nelli: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1766 [12:39] <VoxelHead> Nelli: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1767 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> tell us if it doesn't exist
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#1769 [12:40] <Cursed_eagle> Hello
#1770 [12:40] <Cursed_eagle> Can someone help me
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#1772 [12:41] <Xarkes> Cursed_eagle: What's the matter
#1773 [12:41] <Cursed_eagle> Well
#1774 [12:41] <Cursed_eagle> I recently filed for an email change
#1775 [12:41] <Cursed_eagle> how do they notify me?
#1776 [12:41] <Cursed_eagle> how do they notify me?
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#1778 [12:41] <Xarkes> Cursed_eagle: On minecraft.net ?
#1779 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: They email you to your original email address first
#1780 [12:42] <Nelli> i hav no library folder
#1781 [12:42] <Cursed_eagle> I lost that email
#1782 [12:42] <Cursed_eagle> I gave them my gift code
#1783 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: them?
#1784 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> Xarkes: I think he meant Mojang Accounts
#1785 [12:42] <Cursed_eagle> yes
#1786 [12:42] <Cursed_eagle> Yeah
#1787 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> Who is this "them" you speak of?
#1788 [12:42] <Xarkes> tyteen4a03: Okay
#1789 [12:42] <Cursed_eagle> Mojang
#1790 [12:42] <Cursed_eagle> on help.mojang
#1791 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: Ah
#1792 [12:42] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: did you migrate your account to Mojang Accounts?
#1793 [12:42] <Cursed_eagle> Yes i did
#1794 [12:43] <Cursed_eagle> but i don't have my email - it got scammed
#1795 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: there should be an Change Email option on the account dashboard
#1796 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nelli mac/.minecraft/lion
#1797 [12:43] <VoxelHead> Nelli: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#1798 [12:43] <Cursed_eagle> I do know that
#1799 [12:43] <Cursed_eagle> the thing is
#1800 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> Nelli: then follow the instructions again, if you need me to repost, tell me
#1801 [12:43] <Cursed_eagle> they send an email to the original email
#1802 [12:43] <Cursed_eagle> which is still linked to my account
#1803 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: They should, yes
#1804 [12:43] <Cursed_eagle> and i wish to change it
#1805 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: They send you an email to your original email account first to verify that you really are the account owner, then enclosed will be a link to change your email
#1806 [12:44] <Cursed_eagle> I did the other option
#1807 [12:44] <Cursed_eagle> '' I do not have the original email ''
#1808 [12:44] <Cursed_eagle> there are 2
#1809 [12:44] <Cursed_eagle> i did that one.
#1810 [12:44] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: Oh, hang on
#1811 [12:44] <Cursed_eagle> and then they asked contact email and name/giftcode
#1812 [12:44] <Cursed_eagle> okay
#1813 [12:45] <tyteen4a03> Ah
#1814 [12:45] <Cursed_eagle> ?
#1815 [12:45] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: Did they not reply back?
#1816 [12:45] <Cursed_eagle> no
#1817 [12:45] <Cursed_eagle> and i do not see that it is a ticket
#1818 [12:45] <Cursed_eagle> that i can see
#1819 [12:45] <Cursed_eagle> just '' email sent ''
#1820 [12:45] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: It's not a ticket, and it takes months for Mojang to respond
#1821 [12:45] <tyteen4a03> current timeframe is more than 2 months
#1822 [12:46] <Cursed_eagle> :(
#1823 [12:46] <Cursed_eagle> Shit..
#1824 [12:46] <slowfi> minecraft keeps forgetting my password and I have to keep resetting it with the email I got when I bought it but that does not work any more. I did this 4 times already. Oddly enough, this means I can play single user but I can't login to any mmultiplayer servers
#1825 [12:47] <games> slowfi Now that is really odd.
#1826 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> slowfi: if you have downloaded Minecraft content once, then yes
#1827 [12:47] <Cursed_eagle> So what do i do now Tyteen?
#1828 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: Wait, I guess
#1829 [12:47] <Cursed_eagle> so
#1830 [12:47] <Cursed_eagle> they will send me an email
#1831 [12:47] <Cursed_eagle> to my contact email which i provided?
#1832 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> Cursed_eagle: the new one you provided, yes
#1833 [12:47] <Cursed_eagle> okay
#1834 [12:47] <Cursed_eagle> :)
#1835 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> slowfi: I think you should rememeber your password ;)
#1836 [12:48] <tyteen4a03> relying on Minecraft's Remember Me option is not really the thing to do
#1837 [12:48] <Smanly> Its always remembers me! :D
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#1839 [12:49] <Nelli> is there a way my friend can go bak to the old update? bc we have a multiplayer server together and since he downloaded the new update and i can't hasn't worked.... so can he go bak to the old update 1.2.5??
#1840 [12:50] <slowfi> whenever I start minecraft it says it can't login with the original username and password that I must keep resetting it to, but it lets me play singleplayer although not multiplayer. this seems to have happened since the socalled "migration"
#1841 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> slowfi: Did you login with your email address?
#1842 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nelli oldversions
#1843 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> eh
#1844 [12:51] <Nelli> can someone help me?!
#1845 [12:51] <tyteen4a03> ??> Nelli oldversion
#1846 [12:51] <VoxelHead> Nelli: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#1847 [12:51] <slowfi> I never logged in with my email address. only my username
#1848 [12:52] <tyteen4a03> slowfi: If you have migrated your account to Mojang accounts, you should login with your email instead
#1849 [12:52] <Nelli> bt can i go bak to 1.2.5 instead of 1.2.1??
#1850 [12:53] <slowfi> do you login with your email address? I never migrated, whatever that means
#1851 [12:54] <tyteen4a03> slowfi: If you haven't, then continue to log in with your username
#1852 [12:54] <tyteen4a03> I thought you migrated since you sais 'this seems to have happened since the socalled "migration"'
#1853 [12:55] <slowfi> ok, I'm now resetting my password with the link in the purchase email. this is the 5th time I must do this
#1854 [12:56] <slowfi> I don't know why minecraft keeps forgetting my password
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#1857 [13:05] <slowfi> ok now that I've reset my minecraft password a 6th time I can login to multiplayer servers. Does anyone else have to keep resetting their password?
#1858 [13:07] <ngc0202> I need help
#1859 [13:07] <ngc0202> :(
#1860 [13:07] <ngc0202> My Mojang is making stupid decisions
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#1863 [13:09] <poupoi> i need some help
#1864 [13:09] <salochin> wondering if Minecraft will work with MacBook Pro Core Duo 2.16 with 2 GB RAM.
#1865 [13:10] <poupoi> i updated my minecraft yesterday and im trying to play multiplayer but it says all servers are outdated
#1866 [13:10] <poupoi> what do id o?
#1867 [13:10] <poupoi> do*
#1868 [13:10] <Morrolan> Most servers haven't updated to 1.3.1 yet.
#1869 [13:11] <Morrolan> So you'll have to downgrade, either with the backup you hopefully created, or using a tool like McNostalgia.
#1870 [13:11] <Morrolan> (OR just wait for the servers to downgrade)
#1871 [13:11] <ngc0202> Morrolan: You're breaking the rules :o
#1872 [13:11] <Morrolan> upgrade*
#1873 [13:11] <Morrolan> ngc0202 - Nah.
#1874 [13:11] <Morrolan> I bend them, at most. ;)
#1875 [13:11] <ngc0202> "We cannot and will not help you downgrade"
#1876 [13:11] <ngc0202> :)
#1877 [13:11] <salochin> Bumb re: Core Duo?? Have 10.6.3 and latest Java
#1878 [13:12] <Morrolan> ngc0202 - Huh? Where's that located at? oO
#1879 [13:12] <Morrolan> salochin - Depends on what graphics card your Macbook has.
#1880 [13:12] <ngc0202> Morrolan: Your topic :)
#1881 [13:12] <poupoi> so how long could that take
#1882 [13:12] <poupoi> fo them to upgrade
#1883 [13:12] <Morrolan> ngc0202 - Heh, indeed, must be a fairly recent addition.
#1884 [13:12] <Morrolan> poupoi - Somewhere between two days and a week I'd say.
#1885 [13:12] * ngc0202 reads the topic :)
#1885 [13:13] <poupoi> oh alright
#1886 [13:13] <poupoi> thank you!!
#1887 [13:13] <Morrolan> Really depends on how fast the bukkit guys (and the vital plugin's devs) are though.
#1888 [13:14] <salochin> @ Morrolan, I have ATY,RadeonX1600. Am I good to go?
#1889 [13:14] <Boreeas> ngc0202: That refers to redistributing the old jars and the like
#1890 [13:14] <Morrolan> Boreeas - It's worded kinda harsh then.
#1891 [13:15] <salochin> running 1680 x 1050
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#1893 [13:15] <thexXdani> Hey all
#1894 [13:15] <Boreeas> Well, it was added back when McNostalgia hadn't updated yet and everyone wanted the jars :P
#1895 [13:15] <Morrolan> salochin - Err, that graphics card is a bit on the narrow end of performance. ;)
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#1897 [13:15] <Morrolan> But it should work, if you don't expect too many fps.
#1898 [13:15] <Boreeas> Better?
#1899 [13:15] <Morrolan> :)
#1900 [13:15] <Boreeas> :P
#1901 [13:15] <thexXdani> What Requirements Minecraft have? My PC won?t start Minecraft. Please help! :)
#1902 [13:16] <Morrolan> No clue whether McNostalgia has updated, by the way.
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#1905 [13:17] <thexXdani> Can anyone help?
#1906 [13:17] <Morrolan> Be a tad more specific.
#1907 [13:17] <Morrolan> What happens if you try to launch it?
#1908 [13:17] <Sephiroth87> moin boreeas haste mal eine minute per private-chat?
#1909 [13:17] <games> member:identifier:thexxdani: Umm, there are no official specs
#1910 [13:17] <salochin> Thanks Morrolan. By fps do you mean it will be jerky? Or just not blazing realtime like on the Xbox. Can you verify?
#1911 [13:17] <games> what?
#1912 [13:18] <games> Ok… Username wtf...
#1913 [13:18] <Boreeas> Sephiroth87: Wir bevorzugen normalerweise gespräche im channel
#1914 [13:18] <Morrolan> salochin - It'll be a bit, maybe not jerky, but, uh, stuttering.
#1915 [13:18] <Boreeas> Aber wenn es etwas privates ist, sicher
#1916 [13:18] <Morrolan> If you turn down graphics settings it should work though, salochin.
#1917 [13:18] <Sephiroth87> kommt wieder dieser login ding
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#1919 [13:19] <Boreeas> Sephiroth87: Kannst du den Fehler bitte wiederholen?
#1920 [13:19] <p000ison> heyhey I think there is a bug with the minecraft launcher and ubunut/xubuntu
#1921 [13:19] <Sephiroth87> - You must log in with services to message this user (Boreeas)
#1922 [13:20] <Boreeas> Oh
#1923 [13:20] <p000ison> because the login fails everytime...
#1924 [13:20] <Boreeas> Versuchs nochmal
#1925 [13:20] <p000ison> if I copy the lastlogin data from my windows pc it works...
#1926 [13:20] <thexXdani> Morrolan it says, can?t find acceleraded OpenGl
#1927 [13:20] <salochin> How may I turn down Grapichs...is that with System Prefs, Terminal Command, and what setting might be better. Kids play it mostly.
#1928 [13:20] <p000ison> bringt nichts :P
#1929 [13:21] <Morrolan> salochin - Minecraft's graphics settings can be found in Minecraft's settings menu.
#1930 [13:21] <Morrolan> thexXdani - You will have to update your graphics driver.
#1931 [13:22] <salochin> ok, what setting will give me the best performance...presume at a cost of bit depth rendering?>>
#1932 [13:22] <salochin> And Thanks for your help
#1933 [13:22] <thexXdani> Morrolan, I habe
#1934 [13:22] <thexXdani> *have
#1935 [13:22] <Morrolan> salochin - There's two settings which you can play around with: Render distance, and something along the lines of "Graphics settings".
#1936 [13:23] <Morrolan> salochin - The later can be "fancy" or "fast", with "fast" obviously being less taxing to the hardware.
#1937 [13:23] <Morrolan> thexXdani - How did you update them drivers?
#1938 [13:23] <salochin> Thanks Morrolan
#1939 [13:24] <Morrolan> salochin - Sure thing. :)
#1940 [13:24] <thexXdani> Morrolan, I was at Intel.com and used the "Autodetect Hardware" Feature and I installed the Driver and then I made an Restart(Windows XP Professional)
#1941 [13:24] <Morrolan> salochin - If Minecraft's built-in settings don't help to increase performance enough, then there's also mods which help another bit. If you're lucky it should work without thouse though.
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#1943 [13:25] <Morrolan> thexXdani - Then chances are that your graphics card simply doesn't support Minecraft.
#1944 [13:25] <thexXdani> Morrolan, :( Which Requirements Minecraft have?
#1945 [13:26] <thexXdani> Can anyone help here?
#1946 [13:26] <Elystus> Requirements: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hardware_performance
#1947 [13:27] <thexXdani> ok thanks, Elystus! I check the Requirements with my Hardware.
#1948 [13:27] <thexXdani> ok thanks, Elystus! I check the Requirements with my Hardware.
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#1950 [13:28] <thexXdani> Does Intel GPU?s working with Minecraft, too?
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#1952 [13:29] <tyteen4a03> thexXdani: Some olders ones don't
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#1954 [13:30] <thexXdani> tyteen4a03 , ok :( Then I need to buy an new Graphics Card
#1955 [13:31] <daddyhummis> good morning. searching the forum and wiki has left me scratching my head. I have a server mod who can no longer use any smp commands in chat. is there a new setting in 1.3.1 I can turn on to restore this?
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#1957 [13:32] <daddyhummis> I am at work and can only access via the server (mymcadmin) so i can't confirm if I also can only do commands via console or I can still use chat
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#1959 [13:34] <Dyranum|2> Hello, since there is a demo version, I have been trying to run it. Unfortunately, the client is stuck at "Done Loading". Anybody know why?
#1960 [13:34] <Dyranum|2> Hello, since there is a demo version, I have been trying to run it. Unfortunately, the client is stuck at "Done Loading". Anybody know why?
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#1962 [13:35] <Dyranum|2> I assume that this will transfer to the full version, so am quite skeptical.
#1963 [13:35] <Dyranum|2> Which is why this is a problem as well.
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#1965 [13:36] <Dyranum|2> What is strange is that the client starts up at the stuck phase when clicking the "Try Demo" button.
#1966 [13:37] <Dyranum|2> In spite of the fact that I did at one point delete the cache.
#1967 [13:37] <Dyranum|2> It has been stuck like this for hours.
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#1972 [13:44] <Tim> Hi, anyone care to help a Mac user install Minecraft?
#1973 [13:44] <Tim> I believe I've tried most fixes to the problem and it still isn't working
#1974 [13:45] <Tim> To start with the basics, I'm running Mac OS X Mountain Lion with Java updated
#1975 [13:46] <Tim> I don't know what is supposed to happen when I launch Minecraft, but nothing happens
#1976 [13:46] <Tim> I try logging in to play the demo but it says the game is not downloaded
#1977 [13:47] <Tim> I enter terminal to visit the folder that Minecraft is 'supposed' to be installed in and it's empty
#1978 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> ??> Tim mac/security
#1979 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1980 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> hang on
#1981 [13:47] <Tim> hmm, alright
#1982 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> Tim: Turn your Gatekeeper off
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#1984 [13:49] <Tim> tyteen, I'm searching it up, but any tips on how to turn it off?
#1985 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> ??> Tim mac/permissions
#1986 [13:50] <VoxelHead> Tim: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1987 [13:50] <VoxelHead> Tim: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1988 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> oops
#1989 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> that's not it
#1990 [13:50] <Tim> lol
#1991 [13:51] <Tim> don't worry, take your time
#1992 [13:51] <Tim> I appreciate the help btw
#1993 [13:51] <Tim> I was beginning to think I was talking to myself
#1994 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> Tim: yeah, sometime IRC channels get a bit empty
#1995 [13:51] <Dyranum> Hmm, probably should add to my initial statement that I am running Vista.
#1996 [13:51] <Dyranum> If that's any help.
#1997 [13:52] <Dyranum> (probably not)
#1998 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> Dyranum: What was your initial statement?
#1999 [13:52] <Dyranum> [19:34:14] <Dyranum|2> Hello, since there is a demo version, I have been trying to run it. Unfortunately, the client is stuck at "Done Loading". Anybody know why?
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#2001 [13:52] <Dyranum> [19:34:55] <Dyranum|2> I assume that this will transfer to the full version, so am quite skeptical.
#2002 [13:52] <Dyranum> [19:35:08] <Dyranum|2> Which is why this is a problem as well.
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#2004 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> Dyranum: I will search
#2005 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> Tim: Open System Preferences, Click Security, On the first tab on the bottom portion choose "Anywhere"
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#2007 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> ??> Dyranum forceupdate
#2008 [13:53] <VoxelHead> Dyranum: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2009 [13:53] <VoxelHead> Dyranum: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2010 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> Dyranum: see if this does the trick
#2011 [13:54] <Dyranum> Okay
#2012 [13:54] <Tim> yep, I've set it to "Anywhere" already
#2013 [13:54] <Tim> I had to do that to install Minecraft
#2014 [13:55] <Dyranum> So, what does that option do?
#2015 [13:55] <meh> Does anyone know what "java.net socket exception" means?
#2016 [13:55] <Tim> is that "turning off Gatekeeper"?
#2017 [13:55] <Elystus> meh: The server probably has not updated to 1.3.1 yet.
#2018 [13:56] <Dyranum> Well, that did not appear to do anything.
#2019 [13:56] <Dyranum> Strange
#2020 [13:56] <Elystus> Dyranum: Is there anything odd about the launcher?
#2021 [13:56] <meh> Is there anyway to revert to a previous version?
#2022 [13:56] <Dyranum> Not from what I know. I have redownloaded it at least four times now.
#2023 [13:56] <Elystus> grey and html in the newpanel, black at the bottom.
#2024 [13:57] <Dyranum> Regardless of which it still starts up at the same stuck point
#2025 [13:57] <Dyranum> When pressing the Play
#2026 [13:57] <Elystus> Dyranum: I don't know what the demo version looks like, but i am going to assum that this is a problem with Java.
#2027 [13:57] <Elystus> what version of Java do you have.
#2028 [13:57] <Dyranum> I do not know, nor do I know how to check it.
#2029 [13:58] <Elystus> Are you on windows?
#2030 [13:58] <Dyranum> Yes.
#2031 [13:58] <Elystus> open command prompt and type java -version
#2032 [13:58] <Elystus> meh: You can downgrade with this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-212-now-works-with-131/
#2033 [13:58] <meh> Thank you for your help.
#2034 [13:58] <Dyranum> hum, it says 1.6.0_33. That's rather archaic, right?
#2035 [13:59] <Dyranum> I thought it was never than that. :/
#2036 [13:59] <Dyranum> newer*
#2037 [13:59] <Elystus> Thats the latest version of Java 6.
#2038 [13:59] <Dyranum> oh
#2039 [13:59] <Elystus> That means that Java is probably not the issue.
#2040 [14:00] <Dyranum> Uh, is the "Force Update" option supposed to revert back to unpressed status after having clicked Done?
#2041 [14:00] <Elystus> Dyranum: WHen you say you have reinstalled multiple times, how did you do so?
#2042 [14:00] <Dyranum> Uh, I just deleted the client and redownloaded a new one.
#2043 [14:00] <Elystus> Thats not reinstalling
#2044 [14:00] <Dyranum> I never said I reinstalled
#2045 [14:00] <Elystus> ??< Demo
#2046 [14:00] <Dyranum> How do you install it, btw?
#2047 [14:00] <Dyranum> There's no button or prompt for it.
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#2049 [14:00] <Elystus> Dyranum: I have never used the demo version, allow me to do some testing.
#2050 [14:00] <Dyranum> Okay.
#2051 [14:01] <Elystus> Dyranum: Okay, press start and go to computer
#2052 [14:02] <Dyranum> Alright
#2053 [14:02] <Elystus> open program files x86
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#2055 [14:02] <Elystus> if you don't see that folder, then open program files.
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#2058 [14:02] <Dyranum> Alright, (it only says Program for me though)
#2059 [14:02] <Elystus> open it
#2060 [14:03] <Elystus> Now find the folder named Minecraft PC Gamer Demo
#2061 [14:03] <Dyranum> Not there.
#2062 [14:03] <Elystus> So it never installed.
#2063 [14:03] <Dyranum> huh
#2064 [14:03] <Dyranum> strange
#2065 [14:03] <Dyranum> Wait a minute
#2066 [14:04] <Dyranum> Isn't that just the PCGamer Demo?
#2067 [14:04] <Elystus> yes
#2068 [14:04] <Elystus> You are having problems with the demo, correct?
#2069 [14:04] <Dyranum> Uh, yeah, but not that demo
#2070 [14:04] <Dyranum> It's the one in the Main game client
#2071 [14:05] <Elystus> Oh wait, they released a demo with 1.3 huh
#2072 [14:05] <Lex8Lex> CRASHED -Minecraft Version: 1.3.1 - Operating System: Mac OS X (x86_64) version 10.7.4 - Java Version: 1.6.0_33, Apple Inc.
#2073 [14:05] <Dyranum> yeah
#2074 [14:05] <Elystus> I forgot about that Dyranum, let me test that. :P
#2075 [14:05] <Dyranum> that's the one causing trouble.
#2076 [14:05] <Dyranum> okay.
#2077 [14:06] <Elystus> Dyranum: THe problem may be with your anti-virus. Disable any anti-viruses that are running.
#2078 [14:06] <Dyranum> Hmm
#2079 [14:06] <Dyranum> I think I did select an "Unblock" option for the client.
#2080 [14:06] <Dyranum> Ah well
#2081 [14:07] <Lex8Lex> Was running fine prior to the recent update
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#2083 [14:07] <Dyranum> Hmm
#2084 [14:07] <Dyranum> Unblocked it temporarily
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#2086 [14:07] <Dyranum> i.e. disabled
#2087 [14:07] <Elystus> Lex8Lex: Can you pastebin the full error message?
#2088 [14:08] <Dyranum> No effect. :/
#2089 [14:08] <Lex8Lex> Yes, but it's long.
#2090 [14:09] <Dyranum> I don't think I've got any antiviruses on now, anyways.
#2091 [14:10] <Elystus> Lex8Lex: We need to see the whole thing.
#2092 [14:10] <Dyranum> Only effect seems to be that the client is a bit slower.
#2093 [14:10] <Elystus> Does it just freeze indefinately?
#2094 [14:11] <Dyranum> Yup
#2095 [14:11] <Dyranum> I could screenshot the freeze.
#2096 [14:11] <Elystus> I wonder if we would be able to create an error report.
#2097 [14:12] <Elystus> Dyranum: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2098 [14:13] <Lex8Lex> Elystus: Complete error message to follow.
#2099 [14:13] <Elystus> DOn't paste it here
#2100 [14:14] <Elystus> www.pastebin.com
#2101 [14:14] <Dyranum> It's not a crash though
#2102 [14:14] <Dyranum> it just freezes.
#2103 [14:15] <Lex8Lex> Ok
#2104 [14:15] <Elystus> Freezes are a form of crashing
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#2106 [14:17] <Lex8Lex> Elystus: Do I now just copy and post the link here?
#2107 [14:18] <Elystus> yep
#2108 [14:18] <Dyranum> Right, I have the crash report now
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#2110 [14:18] <Lex8Lex> Elystus:http://pastebin.com/EhDTqcSL
#2111 [14:18] <narkamu> Hello
#2112 [14:18] <Dyranum> I think I got all of it.
#2113 [14:18] <narkamu> i cant seem to get my minecraft to work
#2114 [14:18] <narkamu> just freezes when i try to play
#2115 [14:18] <Dyranum> Will retry just to check
#2116 [14:18] <narkamu> can anyone help me
#2117 [14:19] <Elystus> ?? ask
#2118 [14:19] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2119 [14:19] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2120 [14:19] <narkamu> my minecraft keep freezeing when i try to play it in loading screen and when i try to play
#2121 [14:19] <Elystus> Lex8Lex: I cannot help you. I know almost nothing about macs.
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#2123 [14:20] <narkamu> i play on a windows xp
#2124 [14:20] <Dyranum> Uhum, yeah, I got the whole thing.
#2125 [14:20] <Dyranum> Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/c1KYuTHk
#2126 [14:20] <narkamu> when i try to start up minecraft it just freezes and thats what it keeps doing im not sure how to fix it
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#2128 [14:21] <narkamu> does anyone know how to fix it
#2129 [14:22] <Lex8Lex> Elystus: Thanks anyhow
#2130 [14:22] <Elystus> Dyranum: It looks as if something is blocking it. Make sure that all firewalls and antivirus are down.
#2131 [14:23] <Elystus> I have to got though :/
#2132 [14:23] <Elystus> go*
#2133 [14:23] <Dyranum> This is Vista, so that's a problem.
#2134 [14:23] <Dyranum> The whole OS is paranoid.
#2135 [14:23] <Elystus> Yes it is :/
#2136 [14:23] <Dyranum> I can shut down all non-Vista stuff.
#2137 [14:23] <Elystus> Try that.
#2138 [14:24] <Dyranum> You mean programs as well?
#2139 [14:24] <Dyranum> I did try shutting down my Anti-virus earlier.
#2140 [14:24] <Dyranum> Wait, I can try generating a crash report with it off
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#2142 [14:25] <Nathan2055> narkamu: You still here?
#2143 [14:25] <Dyranum> Hmm, identical.
#2144 [14:26] <Dyranum> So it's probably not that one doing it.
#2145 [14:26] <Nathan2055> Yeah, they left (Chatzilla blocked the part message)
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#2149 [14:28] <mar5514> I have a user name and password but it won't let me login
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#2152 [14:29] <TheBeast2505> Hello
#2153 [14:29] <MarkiiSparkii> Hello?
#2154 [14:29] <TheBeast2505> Are you a tech?
#2155 [14:29] <MarkiiSparkii> Is there somebody who could help me?
#2156 [14:29] <TheBeast2505> Me too
#2157 [14:30] <MarkiiSparkii> I am having a problem with playing minecraft
#2158 [14:31] <Dyranum> Hmm, it seems to be unrelated to the anti-virus stuff.
#2159 [14:31] <Fishfish0001> Just ask your question.
#2160 [14:31] <MarkiiSparkii> oh ok
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#2162 [14:31] <Edby> is it ok to link a youtube video that I made?
#2163 [14:32] <MarkiiSparkii> Whenever I play minecraft it always kicks me out of the game after about 5 minutes of playing saying "minecraft cannot take more memory". How do i fix this?
#2164 [14:32] <Edby> what is your render distance set to?
#2165 [14:32] <MarkiiSparkii> normal
#2166 [14:33] <MarkiiSparkii> it was telling me that I can not support 64-bit Java so I tried downloading that but it won't update for me :(
#2167 [14:33] <Edby> does this video seem acceptable? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDt0qtbqlho :)
#2168 [14:33] <Dyranum> Well, it seems like it is indeed unrelated to any anti-virus (with the possible exception of the paranoid OS, which is impossible to fix).
#2169 [14:35] <MarkiiSparkii> Can you simplify that for me, I dont understand what you mean?
#2170 [14:35] <MarkiiSparkii> Can you simplify that for me, I dont understand what you mean?
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#2172 [14:35] <MarkiiSparkii> Can you simplify that for me, I dont understand what you mean?
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#2175 [14:42] <Dyranum> Well, I'm out of options.
#2176 [14:42] <Dyranum> I guess I could try a different computer or something.
#2177 [14:47] <daddyhummis> anyone know if 1.3.1 removed the / commands from smp chat?
#2178 [14:48] <daddyhummis> I can still us tp from the server console but the mods are not able to use it in game
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#2180 [14:48] <Helloman892> Hello all who give a damn.
#2181 [14:49] <Helloman892> I have a question - Why is 1.3.1 so damn buggy, and why is Jens such a bugger?
#2182 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> 1 question
#2183 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> It's because bugs occur. and then they get fixed over time
#2184 [14:49] <Grim_Reaper> Second question
#2185 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Thats your opinion. He's doing a good job
#2186 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> If you actually want help. please state your problem
#2187 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> If you're here to complain
#2188 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Please /part
#2189 [14:50] <Helloman892> Grim_Reaper: I was being sarcastic on both counts, as you should know.
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#2191 [14:50] <milo_simmmons> i need help
#2192 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> ??help
#2193 [14:50] <Helloman892> Ok, go ahead.
#2194 [14:50] <Grim_Reaper> Whats your issue
#2195 [14:50] <tyteen4a03> milo_simmmons: Yes?
#2196 [14:51] <milo_simmmons> i try to log in into a server, but an error occurs, the crap about internet exception
#2197 [14:51] <Helloman892> Oh, that'll be you trying to connect to a 1.2.5 server with 1.3.1.
#2198 [14:51] <Helloman892> (We get that alot)
#2199 [14:52] <tyteen4a03> milo_simmmons: Just to confirm, can you paste the exact message here?
#2200 [14:52] <milo_simmmons> umm, ok give me a sec
#2201 [14:52] <Dan> milo_simmmons, are you trying to connect to a server?
#2202 [14:53] <tyteen4a03> Dan: he just said he is trying to do that :P
#2203 [14:53] <Helloman892> Dan: Lolfail.
#2204 [14:53] <milo_simmmons> Internal exception: java.net.SocketException: Connection reset
#2205 [14:53] <Helloman892> That's the error I stated.
#2206 [14:53] <Dan> yea 1.3.1 doesnt allow connections to 1.2.5 servers
#2207 [14:53] <Helloman892> Dan: Obviously.
#2208 [14:53] <milo_simmmons> so basically i have to look for a server for the new update version?
#2209 [14:53] <Helloman892> milo_simmmons: Wait till the server updates.
#2210 [14:55] <milo_simmmons> oh ok...so....while im here....where can i find like, a list of servers or something like that?
#2211 [14:55] <Fishfish0001> Or downgrade
#2212 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> #smp
#2213 [14:55] <Grim_Reaper> Or the forums
#2214 [14:55] <Boreeas> ??> milo_simmmons smp/servers
#2215 [14:55] <VoxelHead> milo_simmmons: (smp/servers) There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2216 [14:55] <VoxelHead> milo_simmmons: (smp/servers) You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2217 [14:56] <milo_simmmons> great... i assume most of them have updater servers
#2218 [14:56] <Boreeas> The servers on the forums usually put their versions in the title
#2219 [14:56] <Helloman892> Not many servers have accomadated for an update that happened yesterday.
#2220 [14:56] <tyteen4a03> milo_simmmons: 1.3.1 came out for less than 36 hours, it takes time for mods and servers to update
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#2223 [14:57] <Royalaid> Hey guys, I need help plz :)
#2224 [14:57] <Helloman892> Yes?
#2225 [14:57] <milo_simmmons> great...thnx to all of you, you have been really helpfull
#2226 [14:58] <milo_simmmons> have a nice day
#2227 [14:58] <Helloman892> Np.
#2228 [14:58] <Helloman892> And thanks.
#2229 [14:58] <Royalaid> I am trying to get lan play to work
#2230 [14:58] <Helloman892> And? What happens?
#2231 [14:58] <Royalaid> but the clients don't see each other
#2232 [14:58] <Royalaid> I took down firewalls
#2233 [14:58] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: Can you elaborate?
#2234 [14:58] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2235 [14:58] <Royalaid> multicast seems to be working
#2236 [14:58] <Boreeas> Helloman892: Be a little bit more patient.
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#2239 [14:59] <Helloman892> Boreeas: Sure, sure.
#2240 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> do they not see each other ingame or can they not connect to your computer?
#2241 [14:59] <Royalaid> cannot connect
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#2243 [14:59] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: Are you sure you're giving them the address Minecraft showed when you clicked on the Open To LAN button?
#2244 [14:59] <Royalaid> Yes
#2245 [15:00] <Helloman892> tyteen4a03: That isn't necessary.
#2246 [15:00] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: Do you happen to be in a network with 2 routers?
#2247 [15:00] <Royalaid> No
#2248 [15:00] <Helloman892> Royalaid: Scroll to the bottom of the server list, it'll be there.
#2249 [15:00] <Royalaid> Although
#2250 [15:00] <Boreeas> Helloman892: It is sometimes, the LAN games don't always show up in the multiplayer overview
#2251 [15:00] <Royalaid> He tried to open his game
#2252 [15:00] <Helloman892> Boreeas: But they should.
#2253 [15:00] <Boreeas> Helloman892: See: Bugs
#2254 [15:00] <Helloman892> Will do.
#2255 [15:00] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS: "Should", "Will", "Do"
#2256 [15:00] <Royalaid> and was given an IP in the 169 range
#2257 [15:01] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: it should be 196
#2258 [15:01] <DopeGhoti> If your IP address starts with 169.254, something has gone terribly wrong with your LAN
#2259 [15:01] <Royalaid> right
#2260 [15:01] <Royalaid> apipa
#2261 [15:01] <Royalaid> but he has net connection
#2262 [15:01] <Helloman892> DopeGhoti: What and who are you on about?
#2263 [15:01] <Grim_Reaper> :|
#2264 [15:01] <Helloman892> "Should" "Will" "Do". Dafuq?
#2265 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> TTANTS.
#2266 [15:02] <Helloman892> Means?
#2267 [15:02] <DopeGhoti> Things That Are Not The Same.
#2268 [15:02] <Helloman892> Ok.
#2269 [15:02] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: He should, but just ask him again for his internal address to see if there are no mistakes
#2270 [15:02] <Royalaid> I ran ipconfig, but we just disable this bizzare unknown connection from control panel
#2271 [15:03] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: then ask him to turn his security softwares off
#2272 [15:03] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: unknown connection?
#2273 [15:03] <Helloman892> DopeGhoti: Hint. I said 'The game *should* appear,' and 'I *will (do)* see "Bugs".'
#2274 [15:03] <Royalaid> @tyteen4a03 It is off and about the connect, I know right
#2275 [15:04] <Royalaid> connection*
#2276 [15:04] <DopeGhoti> ProTip: If you are going to assert that you are making a quotation, don't misquote.
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#2280 [15:04] <Helloman892> DopeGhoti: I was actually just giving the full meaning, hence the single quotation marks.
#2281 [15:04] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: Has he turned Windows Firewall off? or am I not understanding what "unknown questions" means correctly
#2282 [15:06] <Royalaid> Norton Firewall and yes, we both our firewalls off, and there was a second connect "Unidentified network" and that did not work
#2283 [15:06] <Royalaid> errr
#2284 [15:06] <Royalaid> and disabling that connection did nothing
#2285 [15:07] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: Do you have VMWare installed?
#2286 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: And tell me all the connection names next to this Unidentified Network
#2287 [15:08] <Royalaid> Just that
#2288 [15:08] <Royalaid> 1 sec
#2289 [15:08] <Royalaid> I have virtual box installed
#2290 [15:09] <Royalaid> I FIXED IT
#2291 [15:09] <Royalaid> I needed to disable all the other adapters
#2292 [15:09] <Royalaid> Bizzare
#2293 [15:09] <Royalaid> Gonna tweet at someone
#2294 [15:09] <Royalaid> who should I hit up with the fix, jens?
#2295 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: Nobody, because probably Virtual Box caused that error
#2296 [15:10] <Royalaid> Still though, the software should select the proper adapter and broadcast on that
#2297 [15:10] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: It's mainly the underlying OS which is in charge of that
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#2299 [15:11] <Royalaid> You can't prioritize the adaptor?
#2300 [15:11] <Guest54255> i need help i can't run minecraft
#2301 [15:11] <Royalaid> Thought you could in java
#2302 [15:11] <Royalaid> hmmm
#2303 [15:11] <Guest54255> and i have java 7
#2304 [15:11] <Royalaid> in any case
#2305 [15:11] <Royalaid> thank you very much guys
#2306 [15:11] <Royalaid> stay awesome :D
#2307 [15:11] <Guest54255> it says i need java 1.5.0
#2308 [15:11] <Guest54255> O.o
#2309 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> Royalaid: not that I am aware of, but I don't know tbh :P
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#2311 [15:11] <tyteen4a03> Guest16203: You need java 6, not 5
#2312 [15:12] <Guest54255> can't it run on java 7 update 5
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#2314 [15:12] <tyteen4a03> Guest54255: we've seen problems with people running Minecraft with java 7
#2315 [15:12] <Guest54255> tyteen4a03 do i need to downgrade then ?
#2316 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> Guest16203: While it works for some people, some people find difficulty making them live happily ever after
#2317 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> Guest54255: Yes
#2318 [15:13] <Guest54255> :`(
#2319 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> the above message was directed to you btw, I pointed at the wrong people
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#2321 [15:13] <tyteen4a03> Guest54255: Downgrading to Java 6 is just like uninstalling Java 7 and install Java 6, not really a big deal
#2322 [15:13] <Guest54255> are they working on a fix ?
#2323 [15:14] <Boreeas> We don't know.
#2324 [15:14] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: ninja'd
#2325 [15:14] <Helloman892> We are not Mojang.
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#2327 [15:14] <Storm3y> wtf does anyones minecraft just quit?
#2328 [15:14] * Guest54255 know Boreeas is a hidden ninja mojang ^.^
#2328 [15:14] <Boreeas> But today is my day off!
#2329 [15:15] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: poor you
#2330 [15:15] <Boreeas> Storm3y: Do you get any error message?
#2331 [15:15] <Boreeas> :(
#2332 [15:15] <Storm3y> Nope just started doing it
#2333 [15:15] <Storm3y> Just closes down
#2334 [15:15] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: now you're a ninja mojang whose minecraft just quit
#2335 [15:15] <Boreeas> Why do you think I'm here?
#2336 [15:16] <Boreeas> Storm3y: What OS do you use?
#2337 [15:16] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: because you want to annoy DopeGhoti to hell
#2338 [15:16] <tyteen4a03> I knew it ;)
#2339 [15:16] <Storm3y> Windows 7
#2340 [15:16] <Boreeas> That, too
#2341 [15:17] <Boreeas> Storm3y: Please grab the jar launcher from the website, instead of the exe
#2342 [15:17] <Storm3y> Righto
#2343 [15:17] <Boreeas> It's under "Show all platforms" -> Linux
#2344 [15:17] <Boreeas> (Works on windows, too, though)
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#2346 [15:18] <Sephiroth87> boreeas neue infos - ich hatte erfolg...hab mein namen offline
#2347 [15:18] <Boreeas> Klasse, wie gings?
#2348 [15:19] <Storm3y> Seem to be getting an awful lot of Can't keep up! errors on the server too. More than usual
#2349 [15:19] <Sephiroth87> leider mit einer gecrackten datei
#2350 [15:19] <Sephiroth87> sieht aus wie orginal login screen aba den namen den mann da eingibt macht er automatisch rein
#2351 [15:19] <Boreeas> Ah, MinecraftSP?
#2352 [15:19] <Sephiroth87> http://www.minecraftinstall.net/
#2353 [15:20] <Sephiroth87> nja die sp isses net
#2354 [15:20] <Sephiroth87> aba funzt warscheinlich auf dessen basis
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#2356 [15:20] <Boreeas> Im endeffekt läufts auch nur darauf hinaus, den prozess mit den korreten optionen zu starten
#2357 [15:20] <Helloman892> Isn't that illegal?
#2358 [15:20] <DopeGhoti> Yep.
#2359 [15:20] <tyteen4a03> Helloman892: it is
#2360 [15:20] <Boreeas> Helloman892: In most cases, yes
#2361 [15:21] <Helloman892> :O
#2362 [15:21] <Helloman892> So '?? distribution' applies?
#2363 [15:21] <Sephiroth87> kenn mich leider mit dem codes von exe dateien nicht aus aba hauptsache es geht und ich kann jet auch im LAN spieln
#2364 [15:21] <Helloman892> Woo, I get to use Vox for something useful.
#2365 [15:21] <Boreeas> His cases differs in so far, though, that he bought the game and is looking to start a server beyond a proxy that refuses connections to the session and auth servers
#2366 [15:21] <Helloman892> Oh, I see.
#2367 [15:21] <Boreeas> Klasse
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#2369 [15:22] <mnjiman> How do i turn on adventure mode
#2370 [15:22] <mnjiman> ?
#2371 [15:22] <Helloman892> mnijiman: You can't.
#2372 [15:22] <Sephiroth87> ./gamemode 2
#2373 [15:22] <Helloman892> Oh, right, yeah.
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#2375 [15:22] <Helloman892> Hiya, Marc, why are you on webchat?
#2376 [15:23] <mnjiman> Not working...
#2377 [15:23] <mnjiman> do i have to turn on admin command or something?
#2378 [15:23] <Helloman892> mnjiman: It only works in single player
#2379 [15:23] <mnjiman> i am putting it in the chat itself after hitting 't'
#2380 [15:23] <Sephiroth87> so ich bin dan mal wieder raus...cee ya
#2381 [15:23] <mnjiman> i am in single
#2382 [15:23] <Helloman892> ./gamemode 2
#2383 [15:23] <Marc_IRL> Helloman892: I'm here pretty frequently
#2384 [15:23] <Helloman892> /gamemode 2
#2385 [15:23] <Helloman892> Marc_IRL: I know, I didn't know you use webchat though.
#2386 [15:24] <mnjiman> yes, it is not working when i type it in.
#2387 [15:24] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, it's easy to have it in a browser window, plus I'm using the same resource I send our customers to
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#2389 [15:24] <Helloman892> What d'ya mean, mnjiman?
#2390 [15:24] <Helloman892> Try hitting something.
#2391 [15:24] <Marc_IRL> I don't use IRC much, so it's nice to just have it bookmarked in Chrome
#2392 [15:24] <mnjiman> I did, it breaks.
#2393 [15:24] <Helloman892> Hm. Works for me.
#2394 [15:24] <mnjiman> i type in the command in chat single player, hit something and it breaks and gives me a block
#2395 [15:24] <mnjiman> well good for you, it doesnt for me :O\
#2396 [15:24] <Helloman892> Remember to press enter.
#2397 [15:25] <mnjiman> DERP
#2398 [15:25] <mnjiman> I know
#2399 [15:25] <Helloman892> And you have to have cheats turned on.
#2400 [15:25] <mnjiman> Ah, that i didnt know
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#2402 [15:25] * mnjiman tries
#2402 [15:25] <Wheatley> Hello?
#2403 [15:25] <mnjiman> Hello
#2404 [15:25] <Wheatley> Hey i'm having issues
#2405 [15:26] <Helloman892> Go on.
#2406 [15:26] <mnjiman> Thank you Helloman892 ^_^
#2407 [15:26] <Helloman892> Np.
#2408 [15:26] <Helloman892> Wheatley: Go ahead.
#2409 [15:27] <Wheatley> when i try to do multiplayer it says java.net.socketexception. connection reset.
#2410 [15:27] <Wheatley> it's pissing me off
#2411 [15:27] <Helloman892> Stop trying to connect to a 1.2.5 server.
#2412 [15:27] <Helloman892> Connect to a 1.3.1 server.
#2413 [15:27] <Wheatley> i could try that. what are some 1.3.1 servers?
#2414 [15:28] <Helloman892> Like black.realmc.net (:P xy).
#2415 [15:28] <xy> !!
#2416 [15:28] <Storm3y> Boreeas - Server says Connection Reset, then USER Lost Connection when the game shuts down
#2417 [15:28] <Wheatley> Awesome
#2418 [15:28] <Wheatley> So the problem was the servers i was trying to connect to
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#2420 [15:28] <Marc_IRL> http://minecraftservers.org/
#2421 [15:28] <Helloman892> Yes.
#2422 [15:28] <Copperdictator> hello?
#2423 [15:29] <Copperdictator> i need help
#2424 [15:29] <Wheatley> Thanks guys. i was about to kill myself :D
#2425 [15:29] <Copperdictator> i need help
#2426 [15:29] <tyteen4a03> Copperdictator: Yes?
#2427 [15:29] <Copperdictator> i bout the game but it says i didnt
#2428 [15:29] <Copperdictator> wat do i do?
#2429 [15:30] <Copperdictator> it charged the credit card also
#2430 [15:30] <tyteen4a03> Copperdictator: did you receive a confirmation email saying the purchase was complete?
#2431 [15:30] <Copperdictator> no but i had an order #
#2432 [15:31] <tyteen4a03> Copperdictator: Did you use PayPal?
#2433 [15:31] <Copperdictator> does the email send automatically?
#2434 [15:31] <Copperdictator> and no i used visa
#2435 [15:31] <tyteen4a03> Copperdictator: Yes, it's sent automatically when Mojang receives the payment
#2436 [15:32] <tyteen4a03> Copperdictator: Try contacting Mojang
#2437 [15:32] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL in case he's there, otherwise try help.mojang.com
#2438 [15:32] <Copperdictator> ok... do i hav to verify my purchase to use mincraft?
#2439 [15:33] <tyteen4a03> Copperdictator: Verify your purchase?
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#2441 [15:33] <Copperdictator> wat is on the email
#2442 [15:33] <Marc_IRL> Copperdictator: message me your transaction ID http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#2443 [15:33] <Copperdictator> ok
#2444 [15:33] <Joaquin546> ok let me just find it
#2445 [15:34] <tyteen4a03> ??> Joaquin546 only/you
#2446 [15:34] <VoxelHead> Joaquin546: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#2447 [15:34] <VoxelHead> Joaquin546: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#2448 [15:34] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: why is mojang using Moneybookers anyways D:
#2449 [15:34] <Joaquin546> ok
#2450 [15:34] <Copperdictator> how do i msg me tyteen?
#2451 [15:34] <Marc_IRL> tyteen4a03: Because it works for 9900/10000 purchases every day ;-)
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#2453 [15:35] <tyteen4a03> Copperdictator: type in this command: "/query Marc_IRL TranscationIDHERE"
#2454 [15:35] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: but PayPal makes that 9999/10000 D:
#2455 [15:35] <Marc_IRL> We offer both
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#2457 [15:35] <Joaquin546> so can someone help me
#2458 [15:35] <tyteen4a03> Joaquin546: yes?
#2459 [15:35] <Marc_IRL> and you don't know that
#2460 [15:35] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: but you guys process Credit Card payments with Moneybookers
#2461 [15:36] <Joaquin546> tyteen: i've been having troubles with crafting paper items on mine craft
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#2463 [15:36] <Marc_IRL> Joaquin546: ...really?
#2464 [15:36] <Joaquin546> yeah can't even make paper anymore
#2465 [15:37] <tyteen4a03> Joaquin546: see MCWiki article: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Paper
#2466 [15:37] <tyteen4a03> next time you have an crafting issue, look there - it will be faster than us
#2467 [15:37] <Joaquin546> make a map just makes a copy of the first one
#2468 [15:37] <tyteen4a03> Joaquin546: The first one?
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#2471 [15:39] <Joaquin546> tyteen4a03: yeah and i made second one before and now i tried to make a third it just keeps making a copy of the first
#2472 [15:39] <tyteen4a03> Joaquin546: The map points to the the same area given that you've not moved
#2473 [15:39] <Joaquin546> no i'm was atlease twice as far away for where the copy keeps making it
#2474 [15:40] <tyteen4a03> Joaquin546: pretty sure all maps points to the same area you're in
#2475 [15:40] <Joaquin546> it doesn't even show me on the map
#2476 [15:41] <Joaquin546> and i walked for an hour real time away from were i was
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#2478 [15:41] <tyteen4a03> If you're sure you didn't walk in circles, then either it's a bug or it's an intended effect I do not know of; maybe Boreeas can answer (get out of your break)
#2479 [15:42] <Joaquin546> what would i do to get rid of the bug
#2480 [15:43] <tyteen4a03> Joaquin546: I'm not sure if it's even a bug
#2481 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Are you making the map yourself, in the crafting table, or are you /give-ing it
#2482 [15:43] <Joaquin546> making it on the crafting table
#2483 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> If it's the latter, it'll be a copy of the first (0th) map
#2484 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> In the same location?
#2485 [15:44] <Joaquin546> nope an hour real time walk and boat away from where i was
#2486 [15:44] <Grim_Reaper> Oh look it's GreyVulpine
#2487 [15:44] <tyteen4a03> oh look it's GreyVulpine
#2488 [15:45] <tyteen4a03> (I meant to point at Grim_Reaper but Tab has failed me)
#2489 [15:45] <Grim_Reaper> lol
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#2491 [15:47] <Joaquin546> its a bug more then likely wat should i do to get rid of that bug
#2492 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Wait and see if it's listed on the wiki? If so, either wait for Mojang to fix it, a modder to fix it, or you can decompile the source and program a fix for yourself
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#2494 [15:49] <Marc_IRL> Anyone want to help me test something on the help site for a few mins? :-)
#2495 [15:49] <Fishfish0001> Sure?
#2496 [15:49] <GreyVulpine> Can we break it?
#2497 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: I guess we can't
#2498 [15:53] <Marc_IRL> Pretend that you're looking for something on the help site. Search for something that you know we have an article on, and see if it comes up in the top two or three.
#2499 [15:53] <Marc_IRL> I just added keywords to all of the articles to make searching actually possible
#2500 [15:53] <Marc_IRL> Plus, when people email us, a box will pop up and ask them if they were looking for the top three articles related to what they typed
#2501 [15:53] <Boreeas> tyteen4a03: Well I'm sorry that I have to eat >:(
#2502 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: you better be :D
#2503 [15:54] <Marc_IRL> If there's something obvious that doesn't come up, please let me know what you searched for, and I'll see if I can update the keywords
#2504 [15:54] <Boreeas> Search works
#2505 [15:55] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: it feels like the ajax suggestion box is taking too long
#2506 [15:55] <GreyVulpine> Looks good, except in firefox, hitting back makes the search query overlap the "got a question" line
#2507 [15:55] <Dyranum> Well, seems like I am out of luck then.
#2508 [15:55] <Dyranum> I think it's not an AV related crash, and well..
#2509 [15:55] <Marc_IRL> Well, for technical issues, I dunno, since it's all auto generated from my articles :p
#2510 [15:56] <Boreeas> Email works, too
#2511 [15:56] <Marc_IRL> Mostly looking for content, unless someone actually breaks the help site. Then I poke a web dev.
#2512 [15:56] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: is there no autocomplete?
#2513 [15:56] <tyteen4a03> (i.e Ema makes Email come up)
#2514 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> There's a dropdown of pages when you start entering stuff in
#2515 [15:56] <GreyVulpine> "When will <insert version here> come out?"
#2516 [15:57] <xales> Marc_IRL: There's a layout issue with the status items, on my setup anyway. Also, my only suggestion is add "free" as a keyword to the demo page.
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#2518 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Thinking, "How do I call/contact Mojang" should pop up the email page
#2519 [15:58] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: hope it's not too much to do, but autocomplete would be a nice thing (and while you're at it, a little bit of typo autocorrect would be good too)
#2520 [15:59] <Marc_IRL> I don't know anything about autocomplete, I'm not a developer. Just looking for content.
#2521 [15:59] <Marc_IRL> "free" added as a keyword to the demo page
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#2523 [15:59] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: ah, can I still go on? I don't know if my next annoyance is web dev stuff or things you can fix
#2524 [16:00] <Marc_IRL> GreyVulpine: Probably, but we have the email page linked at the end of articles that people would need to contact us from, not on its own page. email, address, contact, phone, number, help, call, and telephone are all keywords for "How to use this site"
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#2526 [16:00] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: I don't know if it's just me, but since you're refreshing the page when the email page looks for the top 3 articles, maybe it shouldn't be in a popup box and instead should be in the main canvas
#2527 [16:00] <Guest54255> hello do minecraft have fun mp maps like hunger games ???
#2528 [16:01] <wannabemac> am i the only one getting login failed?
#2529 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> Guest54255: Sure, googling gives you some interesting results
#2530 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> !login
#2531 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> wannabemac: it's just you
#2532 [16:01] <Marc_IRL> wannabemac: help.mojang.com for current server status
#2533 [16:02] <xales> tyteen4a03: Login failed = invalid username/password
#2534 [16:02] <wannabemac> i know the provlem
#2535 [16:02] <wannabemac> problem*
#2536 [16:02] <Guest54255> tyteen4a03 do you know any fun onces ?
#2537 [16:02] <wannabemac> ty
#2538 [16:02] <tyteen4a03> xales: I have no idea why that associated with the wrong thing at that moment
#2539 [16:03] <tyteen4a03> Guest54255: not on me, sorry
#2540 [16:03] <xales> tyteen4a03: :p
#2541 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Just got my first android phone a few days ago here. Anybody use once and have any recommendations for apps?
#2542 [16:03] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: what phone did you get, and what phone did you use?
#2543 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Basic phone -> samsung galaxy S3
#2544 [16:04] <xales> GreyVulpine: Chrome, if it didn't come with it
#2545 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Ah right, that was on my list..
#2546 [16:05] <lutzee> 3g watchdog if you use internet on the go a lot :)
#2547 [16:05] <xales> (Or Firefox, or Dolphin, or something. I like Chrome, though)
#2548 [16:05] <tyteen4a03> xales: I find chrome slow on my phone yet dolphin runs faster than it
#2549 [16:05] <xales> tyteen4a03: Then your phone is too slow ;p
#2550 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Dolphin?
#2551 [16:05] <tyteen4a03> xales: It's a galaxy nexus
#2552 [16:05] <xales> GreyVulpine: Android-only (AFAIK) browser
#2553 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Aah
#2554 [16:05] <xales> tyteen4a03: Works fine for me, I'm on CM9RC2
#2555 [16:05] <xales> same phone
#2556 [16:05] <lutzee> GreyVulpine, 3g watchdog if you use internet on the go a lot
#2557 [16:05] <Denizen> i'm on an LG Cookie
#2558 [16:05] <tyteen4a03> xales: I am on AOKP and Franco Kernel
#2559 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> What's that lutzee?
#2560 [16:06] <xales> GreyVulpine: What carrier, by the way?
#2561 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Verizon
#2562 [16:06] <lutzee> Keeps track of all data transfered over 3g
#2563 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> Ah, Ice cream sandwich already does that
#2564 [16:06] <xales> lutzee: It's built-in in Android 4+
#2565 [16:06] <xales> GreyVulpine: You get free tethering now (or soon) \o/
#2566 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> I can even program in soft and hard limits
#2567 [16:06] <lutzee> o.o i have it anyway
#2568 [16:06] <GreyVulpine> I do
#2569 [16:07] * lutzee has an HTC one S
#2569 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: basic apps there are AndChat (IRC), ES File Explorer (great file explorer if you're rooted), Facebook, G+, Terminal Eumlator (if you feel like exploring and is rooted), Nova Launcher (I still don't like TouchWiz but eh), and WolframAlpha
#2570 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> there is also Steam but I feel that it's pretty useless if you don't chat on Steam much
#2571 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> and TeamViewer
#2572 [16:07] <xales> Steam is a memory whore
#2573 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Ah, I got androIRC. Not liking it
#2574 [16:07] <GreyVulpine> Teamviewer, I got and played around with. Loving it
#2575 [16:07] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: yeah, I didn't like it too then I found AndChat
#2576 [16:08] <GreyVulpine> I'll add it to my list, thanks.
#2577 [16:08] <xales> Dropbox
#2578 [16:08] <lutzee> ^
#2579 [16:08] <xales> FTPDroid lets you run an FTP server on the phone to transfer files, it's usually faster than USB, from what I've found
#2580 [16:08] <tyteen4a03> GreyVulpine: There's also QR droid for reading QR code, and PayPal
#2581 [16:08] <lutzee> if it doesn't have it already
#2582 [16:08] <xales> Google Goggles is fun to play with, Google Authenticator is useful-ish
#2583 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> xales: ES File Explorer has FTP, dropbox (I think) and Ubuntu One files built in
#2584 [16:09] <lutzee> I have anstro filebrowser on mine,
#2585 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> xales: I haven't exactly tried googlg goggles, will do though
#2586 [16:09] <xales> tyteen4a03: Server, or client? :p
#2587 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> xales: Client
#2588 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> Oh
#2589 [16:09] <xales> lol
#2590 [16:09] <xales> Oh, Google Voice is awesome too
#2591 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> that's why you said it's faster than USB
#2592 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Huh, not seeing AndIRC
#2593 [16:09] <tyteen4a03> AndChat
#2594 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Oh right
#2595 [16:09] <Scott> xales: SFTP is better!
#2596 [16:10] <xales> Scott: yeah whatever :p
#2597 [16:10] <tyteen4a03> xales: I just use AirDroid if I want to transfer files without USB
#2598 [16:10] <tyteen4a03> have you tried YouTube remote?
#2599 [16:11] <rymate1234> hey
#2600 [16:11] <tyteen4a03> hi
#2601 [16:11] <rymate1234> andchat is the best irc client for android!
#2602 [16:11] <Scott> xales: Can you AirDrop on Android?
#2603 [16:12] <xales> Scott: AirDrop?
#2604 [16:12] <rymate1234> oh guys
#2605 [16:12] <rymate1234> I have an issue with fullscreen on linux
#2606 [16:12] <Scott> AirDrop is a Wi-Fi ad-hoc service in Apple's Mac OS X Lion 10.7. Using AirDrop, you can share files with other computers which also have AirDrop installed without the need of a Wi-Fi network or any configuration and without the need of USB mass-storage devices.
#2607 [16:12] <rymate1234> Minecraft won't go full screen
#2608 [16:12] <xales> rymate1234: Just maximize the window using your WM
#2609 [16:12] <tyteen4a03> Scott: yes, there's an paid app
#2610 [16:12] <tyteen4a03> oops
#2611 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Must-have Android apps? ConnectBot. Chrome. Xmp. TwitchTV. Tesla. Chrome To Phone. Carr Matey. Netflix. DropBox. Box. BaconReader. ShopSavvy. Pretty much all Google apps. Steam. Skype. Tapatalk. Waze. Yelp.
#2612 [16:13] <Scott> People have told me that Chrome is not stable
#2613 [16:13] <rymate1234> xales, but I want fullscreen, like a game. :(
#2614 [16:13] <GreyVulpine> I'll need to look those up. Thanks DopeGhoti.
#2615 [16:13] <Scott> I've not tried it on mobile.
#2616 [16:13] <tyteen4a03> Scott: No, there isn't an AirDrop client on android
#2617 [16:13] <DopeGhoti> Scott: I use Chrome as my browser on my phone and iPod exclusively now.
#2618 [16:13] <xales> rymate1234: Then fix your WM and/or Java.
#2619 [16:13] <Scott> I would probably use it on my iphone and ipad but it can't set it as the default browser without jailbreaking.
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#2621 [16:13] <Scott> It uses a slow javascript engine too :s
#2622 [16:13] <rymate1234> oh wait
#2623 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> It what?
#2624 [16:14] <rymate1234> apparently my WM has a fullscreen option
#2625 [16:14] <tyteen4a03> Scott: chrome just feels slow for me on mobile, that's why I didn't use it
#2626 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> It seems a _lot_ snappier than Safary and StockBrowser
#2627 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> at least for me
#2628 [16:14] <DopeGhoti> and my iPod is _old_
#2629 [16:14] <Scott> Benchmarks say it's slower than Safari.
#2630 [16:14] <tyteen4a03> Scott: internal APIs? if you're talking about iOS
#2631 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> I haven't tried marking any benches; I just started using it and seeing how it works for sites I peruse, and it works for me, so.. *shrug*
#2632 [16:15] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Carr Matey is probably the best 'where the hell did I part my car/bike/whatever?' app ever.
#2633 [16:15] <Scott> Apparently Apple doesn't let anyone use their Nitro engine or something for JS.
#2634 [16:15] <Scott> Apparently Apple doesn't let anyone use their Nitro engine or something for JS.
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#2636 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> V8 is faster than Nitro, but IDK whether Chrome Mobile uses V8
#2637 [16:16] <Scott> It doesn't on iOS.
#2638 [16:16] <DopeGhoti> GreyVulpine: Oh- Stanza, Nook, and Amazon if you're into eBooks.
#2639 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, a bit.
#2640 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> Devcheats too
#2641 [16:17] <GreyVulpine> Is there one that'll read the standard ebook formats that I can just load via SD card?
#2642 [16:17] <DopeGhoti> holy sh[bleep]t.
#2643 [16:17] <tyteen4a03> cheatsheet for major language
#2644 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> there's a Calibre app for Android?
#2645 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> not free, but _awesome_.
#2646 [16:18] <DopeGhoti> Hmm. I wonder if Google Play Books works well for BYOB ebooks
#2647 [16:18] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: there also is an unofficial free one
#2648 [16:18] <GreyVulpine> I'll need to put that on a to-do list. Check out good ebook readers
#2649 [16:19] <tyteen4a03> speaking of which, why do I never read ebooks?
#2650 [16:20] <xales> tyteen4a03: You should buy a Kindle!
#2651 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> No, a Nook
#2652 [16:21] <xales> Then you'll feel bad if you don't read ebooks.
#2653 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> :p
#2654 [16:21] <xales> :p
#2655 [16:21] <tyteen4a03> xales: I already have a Nexus 7, so nah
#2656 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> I have used both, and highly prefer the Nook
#2657 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> though I would not argue with an N7
#2658 [16:21] <DopeGhoti> though I would not argue with an N7
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#2660 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> I shipped the N7 to a friend and then she would install protection and ship it to me, however she found cracks on the screen so she had to send it back
#2661 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> "install protection"
#2662 [16:22] <DopeGhoti> what?
#2663 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: BodyGuardz
#2664 [16:22] <tyteen4a03> Hong Kong people like to install protection on mobile devices
#2665 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> oh
#2666 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> see, I was parsing that as an app, not a screen film
#2667 [16:23] <DopeGhoti> the latter, I grok
#2668 [16:24] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: and sadly for both recent nexus devices, they are both not using gorilla screen nor do they have SD card slots
#2669 [16:24] <Scott> I have 2 spare iPad cases and iPad screen films.
#2670 [16:24] <Scott> The films are still in the package unopened.
#2671 [16:24] <tyteen4a03> Scott: how much did they cost?
#2672 [16:25] <Scott> I have no idea.
#2673 [16:25] <Scott> My sister bought them for me for my birthday.
#2674 [16:25] <tyteen4a03> Scott: Those at hong kong usually cost from 5 to 9 dollars, depending on the size of the screen
#2675 [16:25] <tyteen4a03> some expensive ones like invisibleshield are rarely found in hong kong
#2676 [16:26] <Scott> I'm sure these cost $30 USD or more.
#2677 [16:26] <Scott> Knowing BestBuy.
#2678 [16:26] <tyteen4a03> Scott: costed me about $35, and it's peeling off
#2679 [16:26] <tyteen4a03> well, the edges
#2680 [16:26] <tyteen4a03> I also spilled ink on some part of it and couldn't get it off
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#2682 [16:27] <Sneaker_of84> is anyone here
#2683 [16:27] <tyteen4a03> scratched so hard that at the end I just end up peeling it off, it was too much of a pita
#2684 [16:27] <tyteen4a03> Sneaker_of84: Yes?
#2685 [16:27] <Scott> Apple is supposed to call me in 3 minutes.
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#2687 [16:27] <Sneaker_of84> umm are you the help person
#2688 [16:27] <SirBowlcut> guys can some plzz help me fix minecraft?
#2689 [16:27] <SirBowlcut> i keep getting errors
#2690 [16:28] <Sneaker_of84> cause i need some help
#2691 [16:28] <tyteen4a03> Sneaker_of84: We are a volunteer team of helpers
#2692 [16:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> SirBowlcut ask
#2693 [16:28] <VoxelHead> SirBowlcut: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2694 [16:28] <VoxelHead> SirBowlcut: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2695 [16:28] <tyteen4a03> oops
#2696 [16:28] <Sneaker_of84> okay
#2697 [16:28] <tyteen4a03> SirBowlcut: Can you paste the error message at pastebin, and briefly describe the problem?
#2698 [16:28] <Sneaker_of84> i accidently deleted the se.class file in my minecraft.jar
#2699 [16:28] <SirBowlcut> Why do i keep getting "internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset" when i try to join multiplayer servers?
#2700 [16:29] <Sneaker_of84> i cant run any worlds without it.... what do i do?
#2701 [16:29] <GreyVulpine> Because those servers haven't updated to 1.3.1 yet
#2702 [16:29] <tyteen4a03> ??> SirBowlcut smp/recentupdate
#2703 [16:29] <VoxelHead> SirBowlcut: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#2704 [16:29] <VoxelHead> SirBowlcut: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
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#2706 [16:29] <SirBowlcut> well
#2707 [16:29] <tyteen4a03> Sneaker_of84: Run worlds? Do you mean playing on worlds?
#2708 [16:29] <Sneaker_of84> yes
#2709 [16:29] <SirBowlcut> This is on 1.2.5
#2710 [16:29] <SirBowlcut> When i download 1.3
#2711 [16:29] <SirBowlcut> i keep getting "end of stream" error
#2712 [16:29] <SirBowlcut> AND IT SHOWS every server with 1 connection bar instead of full
#2713 [16:30] <xales> ??> Sneaker_of84 forceupdate
#2714 [16:30] <VoxelHead> Sneaker_of84: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2715 [16:30] <VoxelHead> Sneaker_of84: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2716 [16:30] <xales> SirBowlcut: The servers have not yet updated.
#2717 [16:30] <Sneaker_of84> okay i will try that. thanks for the help
#2718 [16:31] <SirBowlcut> look
#2719 [16:31] <SirBowlcut> http://gyazo.com/bcf24873f4af9af9b978c5b52499f134
#2720 [16:31] <xales> SirBowlcut: Are you on 1.3 or 1.2?
#2721 [16:31] <Marc_IRL> Is "internal exception: java.net.socketexception: connection reset" the exact error you get when trying to connect to a server with a different version number?
#2722 [16:31] <tyteen4a03> !check 3.sr-sg.net
#2723 [16:31] <SirBowlcut> 1.3
#2724 [16:31] <xales> Marc_IRL: That's usually what it is, but I've seen it be other things as well
#2725 [16:31] <SirBowlcut> thank u who evwer told me force update
#2726 [16:31] <xales> SirBowlcut: Then the servers you are trying to connect to have not updated yet.
#2727 [16:31] <SirBowlcut> that worked
#2728 [16:32] <SirBowlcut> i can connect now, but still shows low connection
#2729 [16:32] <xales> That would either be a problem with your Internet connection, or the server's.
#2730 [16:32] <Marc_IRL> Because I can knock out a help article really quick and put it in the current events section
#2731 [16:32] <tyteen4a03> SirBowlcut: the forceupdate was not directed at you, by the way
#2732 [16:32] <SirBowlcut> Like on 1.2.5, it shows good connection but has errors, on 1.3 i can connect but shows low connection
#2733 [16:32] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: That would be nice
#2734 [16:33] <SirBowlcut> Tyteen, it fixed it ":D
#2735 [16:33] <tyteen4a03> !check 4.sr-sg.net
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#2737 [16:33] <Marc_IRL> Sometimes I have to figure out how to break these things, because I know that I shouldn't connect to a server that has the wrong version :p
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#2739 [16:33] <xales> lol
#2740 [16:34] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: unfortunately people do that all the time after releases, maybe jeb should add a more verbose message
#2741 [16:34] <Marc_IRL> Lots of our errors should be more verbose, haha
#2742 [16:35] <Guest64404> does any1 know how to fix this error
#2743 [16:35] <Guest64404> java.net.socketexception: connection reset
#2744 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: could attach a version string to login request packet sent from server, followed by a error message
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#2746 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest64404 smp/recentupdate
#2747 [16:35] <VoxelHead> Guest64404: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#2748 [16:35] <VoxelHead> Guest64404: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#2749 [16:35] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: (I know I shouldn't be telling you, but still :P)
#2750 [16:36] <Guest64404> and also
#2751 [16:36] <Guest64404> when i try to update MC
#2752 [16:36] <Guest64404> it says failure to launch
#2753 [16:36] <xales> ??> Guest64404 win/reinst
#2754 [16:36] <VoxelHead> Guest64404: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2755 [16:36] <VoxelHead> Guest64404: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2756 [16:36] <Marc_IRL> That actually kind of made sense. I do have a bit of java programming experience.
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#2758 [16:37] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: I was just reading http://wiki.vg/Protocol
#2759 [16:40] <Guest64404> thanks it worked :D
#2760 [16:41] <Boreeas> tyteen4a03: That would be too late. Another idea would be that the server echoes the packet before that (The handshake) with it's own protocol version
#2761 [16:41] <DopeGhoti> that would make sense but won't work until that is added to the protocol
#2762 [16:42] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: I am not seeing any unused ID, but yeah that would make more sense
#2763 [16:43] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: maybe we could use 0xFE
#2764 [16:44] <Boreeas> tyteen4a03: We wouldn't need an unused id. Right now, the packet is only sent client->server
#2765 [16:44] <Boreeas> It could be echoed back server->client, with the version field replaced by the servers version
#2766 [16:45] <Boreeas> The main benefit of that is that future updates probably wouldn't break it, while the login request may change
#2767 [16:45] <Marc_IRL> What was the last version before 1.3?
#2768 [16:45] <Boreeas> Other than that, it's about the same, yeah
#2769 [16:45] <tyteen4a03> 1.2.5
#2770 [16:45] <Boreeas> Mar1.2.5
#2771 [16:45] <Boreeas> Tab fail
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#2773 [16:46] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: oh, I forgot that there were encryption stuff going on before 0x01 is sent
#2774 [16:46] <jay__> spawn creeper
#2775 [16:47] <Marc_IRL> Is there an easy article on how to revert to 1.2.5?
#2776 [16:47] <lutzee> we have this
#2777 [16:47] <lutzee> ?? oldversion
#2778 [16:47] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#2779 [16:49] <Marc_IRL> hrm, ok
#2780 [16:49] <Marc_IRL> I think I'll just tell people to wait until servers have 1.3.1
#2781 [16:49] <lutzee> Yes, there's not official way to downgrade never has been
#2782 [16:50] <lutzee> best option is to whine at people to make backups before they update
#2783 [16:50] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: if he really did put MCNostalgia there, good luck to sonicrules's server
#2784 [16:51] <lutzee> tyteen4a03, oh i know :p
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#2786 [16:51] <jimr> Hello. General noob here needing to know about this damn blankscreen i get after logging in. (Sphax installed - got the portal/flame bug, got opti, now screens going blank) (YES i deleted MEtA_INF) (I got minecraft about 7 days ago, i managed to sort all this out on 1.2.5 with no problem. What's going on? :(
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#2788 [16:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> jimr mods
#2789 [16:52] <VoxelHead> jimr: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2790 [16:53] <VoxelHead> jimr: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2791 [16:53] <lutzee> jimr, optifine does nto support 1.3.1 yet
#2792 [16:53] <xales> ^
#2793 [16:53] <Bobcat314> hi i was wondering if some1 cud help me with a problem
#2794 [16:53] <xales> ??> Bobcat314 ask
#2795 [16:53] <VoxelHead> Bobcat314: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2796 [16:53] <VoxelHead> Bobcat314: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2797 [16:53] <jimr> Multiple sources have told me it does support 1.3
#2798 [16:54] <xales> jimr: From the official thread: "Update to Minecraft 1.3.1 is in progress: 60%"
#2799 [16:54] <Bobcat314> every time i try to log into my server itr says failed to verify username
#2800 [16:54] <VoxelHead> Bobcat314 - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#2801 [16:54] <jimr> (xales): ty.
#2802 [16:54] <xales> Bobcat314: Ignore VoxelHead.
#2803 [16:54] <Bobcat314> ?
#2804 [16:54] <xales> Bobcat314: You are probably running the wrong server software.
#2805 [16:54] <Bobcat314> how long will it take to authenticate...
#2806 [16:54] <xales> However, what is your Minecraft username?
#2807 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> auth servers look fine to me...
#2808 [16:55] <Bobcat314> Bobcat314
#2809 [16:55] <Bobcat314> lol
#2810 [16:55] <lutzee> Update to Minecraft 1.3.1 is in progress: 60% (sp614x@twitter). from the optifine minecraft forum post
#2811 [16:55] <xales> Bobcat314: You are running the wrong server software.
#2812 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: Vox spits that to people
#2813 [16:55] <xales> Bobcat314: You can download the correct software from http://minecraft.net/download
#2814 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> bad VoxelHead
#2815 [16:55] <tyteen4a03> most of the time it really is down
#2816 [16:55] <Bobcat314> i downloaded the server from minecraft.net...
#2817 [16:55] <Bobcat314> how is that wrong
#2818 [16:55] <Marc_IRL> New article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/669349-internal-exception-java-net-socketexception-connection-reset
#2819 [16:56] <xales> Marc_IRL: Have you seen this, by the way? http://www.minecraft.net/demo
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#2821 [16:56] <xales> Bobcat314: You downloaded the Classic server.
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#2823 [16:56] <Bobcat314> =o
#2824 [16:56] <Marc_IRL> xales: of course I have :p
#2825 [16:56] <tyteen4a03> xales: just had a complaint about s3 not providing the correct server software
#2826 [16:56] <Bobcat314> i hav e to doqnload the .jar file?
#2827 [16:56] <xales> Marc_IRL: Okay, just making sure :p
#2828 [16:56] <Marc_IRL> I was going to ask the devs to do that, and they beat me to it
#2829 [16:57] <xales> Bobcat314: You can download the .exe if you are on Windows, but using the .jar is recommended. You can download it here: http://minecraft.net/download
#2830 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: it works only if a premium member has downloaded the content though
#2831 [16:57] <Bobcat314> i have downloaded the .exe.....
#2832 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> sounds kind of confusing to me
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#2834 [16:57] <Bobcat314> from http://minecraft.net/download
#2835 [16:57] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: oh, nevermind
#2836 [16:57] <Marc_IRL> tyteen4a03: that doesn't make sense. Why would it work that way?
#2837 [16:58] <Bobcat314> so ur saying i shud try the .jar and if that doesnt work...
#2838 [16:58] <tyteen4a03> Marc_IRL: from what I've heard it works like that, but I probably am wrong
#2839 [16:58] <Marc_IRL> Why would you have to buy the game to play the demo? :p
#2840 [16:58] <xales> Bobcat314: Then disable any/all firewall software on your computer, as it could be blocking the server.
#2841 [16:59] <Bobcat314> hmmm
#2842 [16:59] <Bobcat314> alright
#2843 [16:59] <Bobcat314> do i have to log into my router like i do when port forwarding...
#2844 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> Bobcat314: no
#2845 [16:59] <Bobcat314> alright
#2846 [16:59] <Bobcat314> brb
#2847 [16:59] <tyteen4a03> you will do that later if you haven't, you're just downloaing it
#2848 [16:59] <Bobcat314> ill update u and tell u if it works
#2849 [16:59] <Bobcat314> no
#2850 [17:00] <Bobcat314> ive set up
#2851 [17:00] <Bobcat314> port forward
#2852 [17:00] <Bobcat314> and the whole server..
#2853 [17:00] <Bobcat314> its online
#2854 [17:00] <Bobcat314> i just cant log into it
#2855 [17:00] <Bobcat314> bc everytime i try to
#2856 [17:00] <Bobcat314> it says cannot verify username..
#2857 [17:00] <tyteen4a03> Bobcat314: just download the correct server file first
#2858 [17:00] <Bobcat314> i did the .exe..
#2859 [17:00] <Bobcat314> im on window 7
#2860 [17:01] <tyteen4a03> Bobcat314: is Cannot Verify Username an error you get after running the correct server file?
#2861 [17:01] <jimr> Also. Don't suppose anyone knows any good UK survival servers do they? Nothign special, just looking to wet my feet in multiplayer.
#2862 [17:01] <Bobcat314> yes.
#2863 [17:01] <Bobcat314> thats exactly the problem.
#2864 [17:01] <Bobcat314> and my account is premium
#2865 [17:02] <xales> jimr: You could try looking on minestatus.net but I don't know any off the top of my head
#2866 [17:02] <Bobcat314> bought it 12 hours ago or so
#2867 [17:02] <Bobcat314> well morew like 24 now
#2868 [17:02] <xales> Bobcat314: Did you disable the firewall on your computer (all of them, if more than one)?
#2869 [17:02] <Bobcat314> no
#2870 [17:02] <Bobcat314> ill go do that now
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#2872 [17:02] <Bobcat314> ill keep u posted
#2873 [17:02] <MrTubs95> u guys still here from yesterday?
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#2875 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: Yes?
#2876 [17:03] <jj> hello
#2877 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> hi
#2878 [17:03] <jj> is this minecraft help
#2879 [17:03] <tyteen4a03> Yes
#2880 [17:03] <jj> oh ok
#2881 [17:03] <xales> No, this is the toaster-builder's union.
#2882 [17:03] <xales> ._.
#2883 [17:04] <jj> how come whenever im hgonna connect to server it says end of stream
#2884 [17:04] <MrTubs95> my problem is that i cant play on any render distance over short without lagging, is there any way u could help me without me giving u my dxdiag
#2885 [17:04] <xales> jj: The server has not yet updated.
#2886 [17:04] <tyteen4a03> ??> jj smp/recentupdate
#2887 [17:04] <VoxelHead> jj: (smp/recentupdate) A release has recently come out. Many server admins don't update their servers to the latest version right away, and wait for subsequent bugfix releases. Be patient or contact your server administrator if they do not update in what you perceive to be a timely fashion.
#2888 [17:04] <VoxelHead> jj: (smp/recentupdate) #minecrafthelp staff is not in charge of every SMP server and we do not have a magic wand to wave to update your favorite server remotely.
#2889 [17:04] <jj> i know 1.3.1
#2890 [17:05] <jj> how do i update my old server
#2891 [17:05] <xales> MrTubs95: That means your computer is not powerful enough to play on higher settings. If you gave us the dxdiag information, we could confirm that, but there is not really any other explanation.
#2892 [17:05] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: I'm afraid not, however if you have a laptop/PC model we will try our best
#2893 [17:05] <xales> jj: Do you run the server?
#2894 [17:05] <jj> yea
#2895 [17:05] <jj> yes
#2896 [17:05] <xales> Re-download the minecraft_server.jar or .exe file, and replace the old one
#2897 [17:05] <MrTubs95> i mean i have a 64 bit and 4 gigs of ram its not a bad computer
#2898 [17:06] <jj> oooohhhh ok the same place i downloaded it from
#2899 [17:06] <xales> MrTubs95: The GPU is what is significant.
#2900 [17:06] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: sometimes Intel GPUs and slow CPUs and unnecessary applications get into the way
#2901 [17:06] <xales> jj: Yes.
#2902 [17:06] <lutzee> MrTubs95, if it makes you feel safer heres my own dxdaig http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73774243/random/DxDiag.txt
#2903 [17:06] <jj> ok thnx alot nye
#2904 [17:06] <jj> bye
#2905 [17:06] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: dxdiag information does not in any way contain your personal information
#2906 [17:06] <xales> lutzee: You should disable the pagefile with that much memory, makes Windows much faster. :p
#2907 [17:07] <MrTubs95> is there any way that i can skype with u
#2908 [17:07] <lutzee> xales, er is thats what's eating my ram? or?
#2909 [17:07] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: We don't skype, sorry
#2910 [17:08] <xales> lutzee: Nah, but it'll prevent it from swapping RAM to disk, which Windows does even when you have plenty of RAM available
#2911 [17:08] <xales> lutzee: "Page File: 2593MB used, 5074MB available"
#2912 [17:08] <xales> That should say 0MB of something like 512MB available
#2913 [17:08] <xales> unless you were *out* of RAM
#2914 [17:08] <MrTubs95> my computer double clicks like when im crafting it will place 2 or sometimes 5 of the items and it makes it difficult to build
#2915 [17:08] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: If you provide the dxdiag information we can further tell you where the problem comes from
#2916 [17:08] <xales> MrTubs95: That could be lag or an input issue. If you are using a trackpad or similar, make sure you have the latest drivers for it. If you are using a mouse, it could just be lag, or a mod.
#2917 [17:09] <lutzee> xales, something in my hardware eats about 55% of my ram, no clue why
#2918 [17:09] <xales> lutzee: It could be related to the pagefile, I have no idea :p
#2919 [17:09] <xales> lutzee: Compare on my system: the Swap: line is the same as Pagefile, more or less. http://hastebin.com/rosutoyaba.txt
#2920 [17:09] <MrTubs95> can u just tell me the certain part of the dxdaig to send
#2921 [17:10] <lutzee> I take out a stick of ram, and hardware ram does to 2.1gb hardware reserverd
#2922 [17:10] <xales> MrTubs95: No, just send the whole thing. Is there some reason you don't want to send it?
#2923 [17:10] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: It will be lass hassle to send us the whole file (as we sometime cross-reference sections)
#2924 [17:10] <lutzee> at 8gb it sits at 4.2gb hardware reserved
#2925 [17:11] <xales> lutzee: it could be your CPU or motherboard, possibly even BIOS
#2926 [17:11] <Boreeas> xales: His reason is that he is afraid that it may contain sensitive information
#2927 [17:11] <lutzee> O.o okay, well it's a laptop not like i can change stuff
#2928 [17:11] <Boreeas> He was here before, we couldn't convince him to give us the dxdiag back then either
#2929 [17:11] <xales> lutzee: Did you purchase it with that amount of memory in it?
#2930 [17:11] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: as we speak he is sending out his IP address, which allows us to track him down the block
#2931 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> not sure why dxdiag would be worse than that
#2932 [17:12] <xales> Boreeas: Well, if they don't want to share, they can just deal with the simple answer of "get a better computer"
#2933 [17:12] <xales> :p
#2934 [17:12] <Boreeas> :D
#2935 [17:12] <lutzee> xales, no, but i checked and it supports 8gb, it had 2 2gb sticks in before (which it sat at 2.1gb hardware reserved)
#2936 [17:12] <Boreeas> tyteen4a03: Don't ask me, tell him <.<
#2937 [17:12] <MrTubs95> here ya go lol http://pastebin.com/q802FZBQ
#2938 [17:12] <xales> lutzee: I have no idea, you might want to ask someone that knows more about that stuff, like GreyVulpine or DopeGhoti
#2939 [17:12] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: and one thing you should know about Skype, it spoils your IP address too and is even more prone to being hacked and/or wiretapped
#2940 [17:13] <xales> Yep, GPU
#2941 [17:13] <Bobcat314> alright i turned off all my firewalls and still the same effect
#2942 [17:13] <MrTubs95> oh ok
#2943 [17:13] <xales> Bobcat314: What programs, specifically, did you disable?
#2944 [17:13] <Bobcat314> it still cannot verify my username
#2945 [17:13] <Bobcat314> norton..
#2946 [17:13] <Bobcat314> 360
#2947 [17:13] <xales> You should uninstall that. Completely.
#2948 [17:13] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: you need to upgrade your GPU driver
#2949 [17:13] <MrTubs95> was that wat u needed
#2950 [17:13] <MrTubs95> how do i do that
#2951 [17:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> MrTubs95 gpu/nvidia
#2952 [17:13] <VoxelHead> MrTubs95: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#2953 [17:13] <Bobcat314> im not uninstalling norton
#2954 [17:13] <MrTubs95> so that costs money
#2955 [17:13] <Bobcat314> i turned off firewall..
#2956 [17:13] <xales> MrTubs95: No, it's free.
#2957 [17:14] <xales> Bobcat314: Norton is known to have issues with everything, especially Minecraft.
#2958 [17:14] <xales> It's worse than what it claims to *protect* you from
#2959 [17:14] <Bobcat314> ..........................................................................................
#2960 [17:14] <tyteen4a03> Bobcat314: Norton is also very slow
#2961 [17:14] <MrTubs95> can u tell the like complete tutorial on how to do it im not to computer savy
#2962 [17:14] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: ok, hang on
#2963 [17:14] <Bobcat314> then what do u all use for firewalls..
#2964 [17:15] <xales> MrTubs95: Go here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx and click the button that says "Automatically find drivers for my NVIDIA products"
#2965 [17:15] <xales> Bobcat314: Consumer firewalls are a joke, if you have a router (which is a hardware firewall).
#2966 [17:15] <xales> I don't use one, beyond some simple iptables filtering (which doesn't apply to you)
#2967 [17:15] <Bobcat314> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
#2968 [17:15] <MrTubs95> its not a button :/
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#2970 [17:15] <MrTubs95> or theres one beside it
#2971 [17:16] <Bobcat314> ill uninstall norton
#2972 [17:16] <Bobcat314> keep u posted.
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#2974 [17:16] <xales> MrTubs95: Yes, click the button beside that
#2975 [17:16] <jj> hello again
#2976 [17:16] <xales> Hi
#2977 [17:16] <jj> sorry to bother
#2978 [17:16] <MrTubs95> the one that says graphics drivers?
#2979 [17:16] <xales> MrTubs95: Yes.
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#2981 [17:17] <jj> umm im the one that asked about the server
#2982 [17:17] <xales> Yes, I remember
#2983 [17:17] <jj> i tried redownloading and norton said it has a virus
#2984 [17:17] <nachosnubes256> Anyone can help me with crashes?
#2985 [17:17] <xales> nachosnubes256: Specifically?
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#2987 [17:17] <xales> jj: Did it say "Web.Reputation.1"?
#2988 [17:17] <jj> yes
#2989 [17:18] <Boreeas> Oh god
#2990 [17:18] <tyteen4a03> xales: with you here, I can just go to sleep :P
#2991 [17:18] <xales> jj: This is a problem with Norton, they decided to mark any file as a virus unless the creator paid them money to not do so.
#2992 [17:18] <MrTubs95> working on it
#2993 [17:18] <nachosnubes256> Is a java.lang.ClassCastException
#2994 [17:18] <xales> tyteen4a03: I'm about to leave. :p
#2995 [17:18] <xales> nachosnubes256: Your world is corrupt.
#2996 [17:18] <nachosnubes256> ?
#2997 [17:18] <jj> oh wow
#2998 [17:18] <tyteen4a03> xales: damnit, Boreeas can take over
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#3000 [17:18] <nachosnubes256> Is in a serevr
#3001 [17:18] <xales> jj: Uninstall Norton, is what I'd suggest.
#3002 [17:18] <nachosnubes256> *server
#3003 [17:18] <jj> but theers a prob every time i download it deletes
#3004 [17:18] <lutzee> nachosnubes256, server world is corrupt
#3005 [17:18] <jj> oh ok
#3006 [17:18] <nachosnubes256> Aha!
#3007 [17:18] <jj> thx again
#3008 [17:19] <Blackie> We have already purchased for Xbox 360, do we have to re-buy to download for PC?
#3009 [17:19] <MrTubs95> im having to update java sooooo...
#3010 [17:19] <xales> jj: If you are looking for a replacement, Microsoft Security Essentials is free and works much better, and doesn't make your computer slow.
#3011 [17:19] <nachosnubes256> Ok, thanks guys
#3012 [17:19] <tyteen4a03> Blackie: yes
#3013 [17:19] <nachosnubes256> :)
#3014 [17:19] <xales> Blackie: That is correct, just like every other game.
#3015 [17:19] <jj> yeah only prob isthat i paid for norton 360
#3016 [17:19] <xales> jj: Well, you shouldn't have done that.
#3017 [17:19] <xales> Anyway, I have to go
#3018 [17:19] <jj> bye
#3019 [17:19] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas will take over you, xales
#3020 [17:19] <jj> thx again
#3021 [17:19] <Boreeas> You hope!
#3022 [17:20] <MrTubs95> u still there?
#3023 [17:20] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: yes, because it's f[bleeping]ing 5am and I am still not asleep
#3024 [17:20] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: yes?
#3025 [17:20] <MrTubs95> ok just checking
#3026 [17:20] <tyteen4a03> oops, double -ings, but still
#3027 [17:20] <Boreeas> :P
#3028 [17:20] <lutzee> there was probably an option to allow the download but he didn't stick around -.-
#3029 [17:21] <Boreeas> lutzee: Mind telling us where, so we can tell them in the future?
#3030 [17:21] <MrTubs95> its still scanning system
#3031 [17:21] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: they sometimes take a while
#3032 [17:21] <MrTubs95> what is taking it so long
#3033 [17:22] <Boreeas> We don't know, sorry
#3034 [17:22] <Boreeas> Give it a couple more minutes
#3035 [17:22] <MrTubs95> it finished
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#3037 [17:23] <lutzee> Boreeas, only a guess, but in the menu where it says it's blocked it should say "think this is wrong?" something like that
#3038 [17:23] <Boreeas> Ah, alright
#3039 [17:24] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: Use this driver if the program took you nowhere: http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_vista_win7_64bit_15.49.html
#3040 [17:24] <MrTubs95> why do i need this though?
#3041 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: This will keep your GPU updated and sometimes increases performance
#3042 [17:25] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: But the GPU you have is not meant to be playing Minecraft sadly
#3043 [17:25] <MrTubs95> will i b able to play on a higher render distance without lag
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#3045 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: probably not, but will reduce some lag
#3046 [17:26] <nachosnubes256> Hello again
#3047 [17:26] <tyteen4a03> hi
#3048 [17:27] <MrTubs95> well is there somthing i can do to play on better render distance
#3049 [17:27] <MrTubs95> without lag
#3050 [17:28] <MrTubs95> hello
#3051 [17:28] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: you can install the OptiFine mod (doesn't support 1.3 yet)
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#3053 [17:29] <MrTubs95> ya ive tried that it does nothing for me :(
#3054 [17:29] <tyteen4a03> but otherwise I'd suggest getting a better computer instead
#3055 [17:29] <xales|nexus> ^
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#3057 [17:30] <MrTubs95> my friend has a laptop with 2 gigs of ram and idk wat the other stuff is but he can play on far with no lag
#3058 [17:30] <MrTubs95> wats wrong with mine
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#3060 [17:30] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: the specs vary from 1 computer to another
#3061 [17:30] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: as I see, your computer is a pretty low-end one according to today's standard
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#3063 [17:31] <MrTubs95> if i bought a new computer what would i need to get to be able to play just minecraft without lag
#3064 [17:31] <MrTubs95> wats todays standards then
#3065 [17:31] <lutzee> the best of the best?
#3066 [17:31] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: At least 4GB of RAM, a dedicated display card driver, and a fast processor (at least 2.5GHz), and possibly an SSD if posible
#3067 [17:31] <nachosnubes256> My client still crashes :( (In multiplayer)
#3068 [17:31] <xales|nexus> You can find the recommended system requirements on help.mojang.com
#3069 [17:32] <MrTubs95> what is everything after ram
#3070 [17:32] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: in fact, your computer may be eilgible for a dedicated display card, call up your local computer store and see if they have anything decent
#3071 [17:32] <MrTubs95> what is a display card lol
#3072 [17:32] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: The Display Card handles the graphic display, a fast CPU makes the computer run faster, an SSD turboboosts everything
#3073 [17:33] <MrTubs95> now how do u know all of this?
#3074 [17:33] <MrTubs95> ur to smart
#3075 [17:33] <MrTubs95> or somthing
#3076 [17:33] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: working with computers since 4
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#3078 [17:33] <tyteen4a03> it's just years of experience :)
#3079 [17:33] * lutzee sits watching PC videos on youtube all day
#3079 [17:34] <MrTubs95> lol
#3080 [17:34] <nachosnubes256> Error report: http://mibpaste.com/vforUh
#3081 [17:34] <xarcus> hello people, is it possible to test my mc server here?
#3082 [17:34] <MrTubs95> but what is it that is causing lag on my computer
#3083 [17:34] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: the bad internal display card you have
#3084 [17:34] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: try connecting with your external IP
#3085 [17:34] <xales|nexus> MrTubs95: Your graphics card is too slow/old.
#3086 [17:34] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: additionally, give us your IP
#3087 [17:35] <nachosnubes256> ?
#3088 [17:35] <xarcus> you mean that ip that is on whatismyip.com ?
#3089 [17:35] <nachosnubes256> Yes
#3090 [17:35] <MrTubs95> well one of u are saying internal display card and the other is saying graphics card .
#3091 [17:35] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: Yes
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#3093 [17:35] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: display = graphic = video card
#3094 [17:35] <xales|nexus> MrTubs95: they are the same thing.
#3095 [17:35] <xarcus> ok in pm for privacy reason
#3096 [17:35] <MrTubs95> so itts a viddeo card to
#3097 [17:35] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: we are going to test it in the public, plus we can already see your IP
#3098 [17:36] <lutzee> !check xarcus
#3099 [17:36] <tyteen4a03> !check ip9135ef61.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl
#3100 [17:36] <lutzee> blegh
#3101 [17:36] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: ^that is your IP by the way
#3102 [17:36] <lutzee> tyteen4a03, will hostmask work?
#3103 [17:36] <nachosnubes256> :(
#3104 [17:36] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: not sure
#3105 [17:36] <lutzee> !check 145.53.239.97
#3106 [17:36] <xales|nexus> Check didn't go, too close to other one
#3107 [17:36] <tyteen4a03> !check mcsr.dnsd.info
#3108 [17:36] <MrTubs95> so its called a video card to?
#3109 [17:36] <tyteen4a03> !check ip9135ef61.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl
#3110 [17:37] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: Yes
#3111 [17:37] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: ^ not working
#3112 [17:37] <MrTubs95> damn... computers
#3113 [17:37] <lutzee> MrTubs95, yes it is
#3114 [17:37] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: regional vocabulary mostly
#3115 [17:37] <lutzee> Do you have a price range you are willing to spend?
#3116 [17:37] <nachosnubes256> ...
#3117 [17:37] <lutzee> I can probably advise you on what would be best?
#3118 [17:38] <lutzee> nachosnubes256, the server world is corrupt we told you
#3119 [17:38] <MrTubs95> ya how much would all of that cost to get a better graphics card
#3120 [17:38] <lutzee> as in the files are broken
#3121 [17:38] <xarcus> :( it doesnt work
#3122 [17:38] <lutzee> MrTubs95, you can get decent for $100
#3123 [17:38] <MrTubs95> hmm
#3124 [17:38] <MrTubs95> that sucks asss
#3125 [17:38] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: make sure the ports are correctly forwarded
#3126 [17:38] <MrTubs95> wat about my one now
#3127 [17:38] <xarcus> i did it correctly
#3128 [17:38] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: I want to get one at $300
#3129 [17:38] <xales|nexus> lutzee: not if it's a laptop :p
#3130 [17:38] <nachosnubes256> Is a "converted" server 1.2.5 ---> 1.3.1 Dev Build
#3131 [17:39] <tyteen4a03> xales|nexus: it's not
#3132 [17:39] <MrTubs95> how much would one like it cost
#3133 [17:39] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: how much of a new computer, or a new display card?
#3134 [17:39] <xales|nexus> Oh, okay
#3135 [17:39] <MrTubs95> i meant to say how much would a graphics card like the one i have cost
#3136 [17:39] <xarcus> hang on taking a pic
#3137 [17:40] <xales|nexus> You couldn't even find one for sale, MrTubs95
#3138 [17:40] <lutzee> MrTubs95, they don't make such cards that low spec
#3139 [17:40] <MrTubs95> lol thanks for putting down my graphics card
#3140 [17:40] <MrTubs95> whatever it is
#3141 [17:40] <MrTubs95> what does it do to a computer
#3142 [17:41] <lutzee> A HD radeon 6770 would be perfect, i believe
#3143 [17:41] <lutzee> MrTubs95, its what runs your monitor basically
#3144 [17:41] <lutzee> tells the monitor what to show
#3145 [17:41] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: a tip, if you're on chrome, try putting the full address (1.2.3.4:port) into the address bar and visit it, if the "link seems to be broken" or "connection is reset", than it's working
#3146 [17:41] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: if it's showing Can't connect to blah, then it's not
#3147 [17:42] <MrTubs95> i need to find somebody that i know that knows a lot about computers get then to teach me
#3148 [17:42] <tyteen4a03> MrTubs95: that would be your local computer store
#3149 [17:42] <tyteen4a03> since they can have physical access to the computer, they would know more than us
#3150 [17:42] <MrTubs95> lol theres no computer store anywhere near where i live
#3151 [17:42] <lutzee> MrTubs95, go onto youtube, search for "how to build a computer newegg"
#3152 [17:42] <xarcus> http://tinypic.com/r/2wf09xu/6
#3153 [17:42] <MrTubs95> ya ive been on newegg before
#3154 [17:42] <lutzee> They have a 3 video series on everything you need to know
#3155 [17:43] <MrTubs95> oh really
#3156 [17:43] <xarcus> thats correct isnt it
#3157 [17:43] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: You sure you're on Port Forwarding Page and not Port Trigger page?
#3158 [17:43] <xarcus> yes
#3159 [17:43] <xarcus> i have them listed on both
#3160 [17:43] <tyteen4a03> xarcus: delete the Port Trigger entry
#3161 [17:44] <xarcus> ok
#3162 [17:44] <lutzee> xarcus, you are sure the machine running the server has internal IP of 192.168.2.2? sounds a bit odd for a home system :p
#3163 [17:45] <xarcus> yes it is, why?
#3164 [17:45] <MrTubs95> on youtube type how to build a computer newegg
#3165 [17:45] <lutzee> just making sure
#3166 [17:45] <MrTubs95> right?
#3167 [17:45] <lutzee> yeah
#3168 [17:46] <MrTubs95> ok well im gonna go learn
#3169 [17:46] <MrTubs95> thanks for the help :)
#3170 [17:46] <lutzee> specifically this is the first video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw ;)
#3171 [17:46] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: This is sometimes how I feel about helping people here: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Oh,-so-THATs-whats-wrong!.aspx
#3172 [17:46] <xarcus> !check 145.53.239.97
#3173 [17:47] <xarcus> its 2 am better get some sleep, i'm back tommorow
#3174 [17:47] <xarcus> bye
#3175 [17:47] <tyteen4a03> it's 6 for me, and I've been up all night
#3176 [17:47] <tyteen4a03> bye
#3177 [17:47] <tyteen4a03> bye
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#3179 [17:51] <nachosnubes256> Bye
#3180 [17:51] <nachosnubes256> Bye
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#3182 [17:51] <Disori> 2pm over here lol
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#3184 [17:53] <force> hello?
#3185 [17:53] <lutzee> hi
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#3190 [18:00] <jlkkljh> minecraft is completely black after it loads
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#3192 [18:00] <Bobcat314> ....
#3193 [18:01] <Bobcat314> im still having the same problem
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#3195 [18:01] <Bobcat314> can some1 plz give me the support number
#3196 [18:01] <Bobcat314> i want to call some1 about this
#3197 [18:01] <jlkkljh> me too i want to call mojang
#3198 [18:01] <oooooooooott> Does anyone know If you can purchase Minecraft Over the phone?
#3199 [18:01] <Bobcat314> no
#3200 [18:02] <Bobcat314> cuz there is no stupid mojang SUPOPORT NUMBER
#3201 [18:02] <Bobcat314> ita a load of ****
#3202 [18:02] <oooooooooott> SERIOUSLY!?!?!?
#3203 [18:02] <jlkkljh> fffexactly
#3204 [18:02] <Bobcat314> yep...
#3205 [18:02] <oooooooooott> This sx.
#3206 [18:02] <Bobcat314> they stupid mojang
#3207 [18:02] <Bobcat314> doesnt care about us
#3208 [18:02] <lutzee> Guys calm down
#3209 [18:02] <Bobcat314> and doesnt want to waste money having people call them
#3210 [18:02] <lutzee> Mojang is a small company
#3211 [18:03] <Bobcat314> small company
#3212 [18:03] <lutzee> and connot deal with any level of phone support
#3213 [18:03] <Bobcat314> hilarious.
#3214 [18:03] <oooooooooott> Find a way other than CREDIT CARDS pple!
#3215 [18:03] <Boreeas> Bobcat314: Try to contact them via help.mojang.com
#3216 [18:03] <Bobcat314> how can i talk to a rep?
#3217 [18:03] <Boreeas> More specifically, try http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#3218 [18:03] <Bobcat314> alright ill brb
#3219 [18:03] <PixieNinja23> Hi there - I'm having problems getting the demo version of 1.3.1 installed. I've sought help on the forums and via IRC, but to no avail. I've already taken various steps, but the same problem persists.
#3220 [18:03] <Elystus> Bobcat314: They are a small company. Just because they have millions of followers does not mean they are big.
#3221 [18:03] <Boreeas> oooooooooott: Same for you, if you want to contact them directly, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new is your best bet
#3222 [18:04] <jlkkljh> my screen is completely black after it loads
#3223 [18:04] <oooooooooott> thx
#3224 [18:05] <lutzee> jlkkljh, what version of minecraft are you running? do you have mods installed?
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#3226 [18:06] <Bobcat314_> ..
#3227 [18:06] <oooooooooott> Ugh, NO USE!
#3228 [18:06] <Bobcat314_> any1 else know
#3229 [18:06] <Bobcat314_> how to contact support
#3230 [18:06] <oooooooooott> Umm why do u need to call em bobcat?
#3231 [18:06] <Elystus> Through the site that Boreeas linked.
#3232 [18:06] <Bobcat314_> BC I CANT LOG INTO 1 FRIGGEN SERVER
#3233 [18:06] <lutzee> bobcat via http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#3234 [18:06] <Bobcat314_> ok
#3235 [18:06] <Boreeas> What is the problem with the link I gave you?
#3236 [18:07] <oooooooooott> Maybe u got banned.
#3237 [18:07] <Bobcat314_> direct link
#3238 [18:07] <Bobcat314_> how do u get banned?
#3239 [18:07] <Elystus> Bobcat314: Wait, you are going to contact them because you cannot log into a server?
#3240 [18:07] <Bobcat314_> no
#3241 [18:07] <Bobcat314_> every time to try to
#3242 [18:07] <Bobcat314_> log into server
#3243 [18:07] <Bobcat314_> it says
#3244 [18:07] <oooooooooott> U piss off an admin and they ban u.
#3245 [18:07] <Bobcat314_> failed to verify username
#3246 [18:07] <VoxelHead> Bobcat314_ - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#3247 [18:07] <Bobcat314_> voxel..
#3248 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> if ur there
#3249 [18:08] <lutzee> Bobcat314_, ^ ignore that, have you bought the game?
#3250 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> tell me something
#3251 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> YES
#3252 [18:08] <lutzee> Bobcat314_, VoxelHead is a bot
#3253 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> i have....
#3254 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> i have never pirated it...
#3255 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> and I PAID my money to buy it
#3256 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> i uninstalled friggen norton
#3257 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> i turned off fireewalls
#3258 [18:08] <Bobcat314_> i dcid every1thing pplz told me and nothing.
#3259 [18:08] <oooooooooott> But if u make the admin on the server dislike u he/she banns u.
#3260 [18:09] <Bobcat314_> ikn ow that
#3261 [18:09] <Bobcat314_> i CANT EVEN log onto my own serve
#3262 [18:09] <oooooooooott> !
#3263 [18:09] <Bobcat314_> thats how i kno its broek
#3264 [18:09] <Elystus> oooooooooott: That is not the issue. It is a diffrent issue.
#3265 [18:09] <Elystus> Thanks voxel >_>
#3266 [18:09] <Bobcat314_> whats the issue?>
#3267 [18:09] <oooooooooott> Maybe one of the other admins banned you...?
#3268 [18:09] <Elystus> Bobcat314_: I don't know yet.
#3269 [18:09] <Bobcat314_> oooooooott plz..
#3270 [18:09] <Boreeas> oooooooooott: Would you mind shortening your nick?
#3271 [18:09] <oooooooooott> IDK!
#3272 [18:10] <lutzee> use /nick <newnick> to change your nick
#3273 [18:10] <Boreeas> oooooooooott: With /nick <some shorter nick>
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#3276 [18:11] <oooooooooott> Better?
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#3278 [18:11] <Bobcat314> lag-.-
#3279 [18:11] <oooooooooott> Aww it didnt work
#3280 [18:11] <smalloliv> is it possible to return mine craft, i got a new laptop recently and ever since i got mine craft my computer freezes every five minutes it is open
#3281 [18:11] <oooooooooott> '/nick <pie>
#3282 [18:11] <lutzee> oooooooooott, remove the <>
#3283 [18:11] <Elystus> smalloliv: No, it is not possible
#3284 [18:11] <Boreeas> oooooooooott: Minus the <>
#3285 [18:11] <Boreeas> Thank you
#3286 [18:12] <pie> kk
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#3288 [18:12] <smalloliv> so you can't return the game?
#3289 [18:12] <Bobcat314> ok..
#3290 [18:12] <pie> kk gtg
#3291 [18:12] <Boreeas> smalloliv: Unlikely. Try http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#3292 [18:12] <Bobcat314> my friend can log on but i cant
#3293 [18:12] <jlkkljh> i lost connecton
#3294 [18:12] <Bobcat314> so the servers arent down
#3295 [18:12] <Bobcat314> thats not right..
#3296 [18:12] <Boreeas> Bobcat314: Can you connect to s.nerd.nu
#3297 [18:12] <Elystus> smalloliv: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#3298 [18:13] <Bobcat314> ohh u cant geta refund
#3299 [18:13] <lutzee> Boreeas, do you have the session server test link? i can't remember what it is
#3300 [18:13] <Bobcat314> they take ur credit card # and run
#3301 [18:13] <Bobcat314> .
#3302 [18:13] <Bobcat314> lol
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#3304 [18:13] <Bobcat314> i have quyit =o
#3305 [18:13] <Boreeas> http://session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=Meep&sessionId=test&serverId=test
#3306 [18:14] <lutzee> Bobcat314, what does it say on that page? ^
#3307 [18:14] <Bobcat314> huh?
#3308 [18:14] <smalloliv> where do you find the transaction id?
#3309 [18:14] <lutzee> Open the link Boreeas just said and tell use what you see
#3310 [18:14] <Bobcat314> lol
#3311 [18:14] <Bobcat314> transaction id
#3312 [18:14] <lutzee> smalloliv, on the email you received after completing the purchase
#3313 [18:14] <Bobcat314> u need to have kept the reciept
#3314 [18:14] <Boreeas> smalloliv: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#3315 [18:15] <smalloliv> i found it...
#3316 [18:15] <Bobcat314> well i gtg
#3317 [18:16] <jlkkljh> minecraft launcher turns completely black after it is done loading
#3318 [18:17] <jlkkljh> hello
#3319 [18:17] <lutzee> jlkkljh, what version of minecraft are you running? do you have mods installed?
#3320 [18:17] <jlkkljh> 1.3.1 no mods
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#3322 [18:17] <lutzee> Operating system?
#3323 [18:17] <jlkkljh> win 7
#3324 [18:17] <smalloliv> i just sent an email from the link you sent me, how long does it usually take from them to get back?
#3325 [18:17] <jlkkljh> it worked fine 2-3 days ago
#3326 [18:18] <lutzee> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back- smalloliv
#3327 [18:18] <lutzee> jlkkljh, there was a recent update, maybe the game failed to download everything
#3328 [18:18] <lutzee> ??> jlkkljh forceupdate
#3329 [18:18] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3330 [18:18] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
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#3332 [18:18] <jlkkljh> i have tried that
#3333 [18:19] <lutzee> hm
#3334 [18:19] <lutzee> ??> jlkkljh win/dxdiag
#3335 [18:19] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3336 [18:19] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3337 [18:19] <Elystus> jlkkljh: Lets get an error report: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#3338 [18:19] <smalloliv> thank you very much you have been very helpful, have a great night!
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#3340 [18:22] <jlkkljh> http://pastebin.com/cUK8KXJE
#3341 [18:23] <lutzee> Memory: 1024MB RAM not surprised really, you PC has a substantially low ammount of RAM
#3342 [18:24] <lutzee> jlkkljh, are there any text files on your desktop named like hs_err_pid ?
#3343 [18:25] <jlkkljh> no
#3344 [18:25] <jlkkljh> sorry had to get supper
#3345 [18:25] <lutzee> hmm
#3346 [18:25] <lutzee> okay
#3347 [18:26] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report take a look at this, try and get an error report
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#3349 [18:26] <Sitchel> Where can i find the password reset on the minecraft website
#3350 [18:27] <lutzee> http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#3351 [18:27] <Sitchel> Thanks you
#3352 [18:29] <Sitchel> Is there any way you can add more commands on singlepalyer LAN?
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#3354 [18:29] <lutzee> Sitchel, unlikely without modding the game
#3355 [18:29] <jlkkljh> java -Xms1G -Xmx1G -cp "%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.client.Minecraft pause
#3356 [18:30] <jlkkljh> oops
#3357 [18:30] <jlkkljh> 'java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
#3358 [18:30] <lutzee> jlk you might want to set where it says "1G" to set it to "512M"
#3359 [18:30] <lutzee> oh fck -.-
#3360 [18:30] <lutzee> java isn't in the class path.. sigh
#3361 [18:30] <Sitchel> Now my minecraft is not loading when i go on singleplayer it sort of freezes... Help Please
#3362 [18:31] <jlkkljh> by the way i can still select options
#3363 [18:31] <lutzee> Sitchel, sort of freezes? does it stop at saving chunks?
#3364 [18:32] <Sitchel> No i click on my world and it loads but it never finishes
#3365 [18:33] <Sitchel> Is there anything i can do?
#3366 [18:34] <jlkkljh> hello?
#3367 [18:34] <lutzee> the world might be corrupt
#3368 [18:34] <lutzee> try another world
#3369 [18:34] <Sitchel> but what if i made it
#3370 [18:36] <jlkkljh> thats kinda like my problem except mine it is a black screen but i can still select options
#3371 [18:36] <Sitchel> Should i try to reinstall minecraft???
#3372 [18:37] <Sitchel> If so how would i do that
#3373 [18:37] <lutzee> ?? win/reinstall
#3374 [18:37] <lutzee> blegh
#3375 [18:37] <lutzee> ?? win/reinst/bat
#3376 [18:37] <VoxelHead> win/reinst/bat: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#3377 [18:37] <VoxelHead> win/reinst/bat: Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
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#3379 [18:38] <cowlicraft> hello?
#3380 [18:39] <lutzee> hi
#3381 [18:40] <jlkkljh> brb
#3382 [18:41] <jlkkljh> ok
#3383 [18:41] <Sitchel> what if im on a mac
#3384 [18:41] <lutzee> ?? mac/reinst
#3385 [18:41] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3386 [18:41] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3387 [18:44] <Sitchel> All it does is gets stuck halfway when it loads, and how would i download the folders again
#3388 [18:45] <jlkkljh> ok i wasnt done being helped??
#3389 [18:45] <Sitchel> neither was i
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#3393 [18:46] <jlkkljh> lutzee: can i continye being helped
#3394 [18:46] <Sitchel> How do i reinstall the minecraft folder on a Mac?
#3395 [18:47] <lutzee> Sitchel, read VoxelHead's instructions above
#3396 [18:47] <cowlicraft> anyone tell me why im not getting the email to verify my email?
#3397 [18:47] <cowlicraft> checked junk/spam
#3398 [18:47] <cowlicraft> and mods on here?
#3399 [18:47] <jlkkljh> i feel like youguys think im not thaat important right now
#3400 [18:48] <lutzee> cowlicraft, you might have inputted the wrong email address in
#3401 [18:48] <lutzee> jlkkljh, theres only me arround it seems, and i am also trying to multitask here
#3402 [18:48] <jlkkljh> ok
#3403 [18:48] <Sitchel> Lutzee i checked and i already have no minecraft folder in the application support how do i get new ones
#3404 [18:48] <jlkkljh> do i need to put java in the classpath??/
#3405 [18:48] <jlkkljh> ???
#3406 [18:49] <lutzee> jlkkljh, it would help yes
#3407 [18:49] <jlkkljh> ok
#3408 [18:50] <jlkkljh> i will
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#3410 [18:50] <lutzee> jlkkljh, the best option is to uninstall all versions of java on your PC and install java 6
#3411 [18:50] <Sitchel> Hello can someone help me
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#3413 [18:50] <hstepp> okay so I bought minecraft and it wont let me play I still have my recipt though
#3414 [18:50] <jlkkljh> java 7.5 is the one i have right no
#3415 [18:50] <jlkkljh> now
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#3417 [18:51] <lutzee> Sitchel, not used a mac before i don't know much about them
#3418 [18:51] <lutzee> hstepp, has the money left your bank account? chances are the transaction was blocked by your bank for being an international transfer (often indicating fraud)
#3419 [18:52] <Ryan_> minecraft wont open
#3420 [18:52] <Sitchel> Do u know how to reinstall the files
#3421 [18:52] <Ryan_> no
#3422 [18:52] <lutzee> Ryan_, you will have to give us more information, when does it stop loading?
#3423 [18:53] <Ryan_> i have downloaded the file multiple times and when i try to open it a message comes up saying that it failed
#3424 [18:53] <Sitchel> Can someone tell me how to install the folders again
#3425 [18:53] <lutzee> Ryan_, what exactly does it say?
#3426 [18:54] <Ryan_> it says that it is damaged and should be moved to the trash
#3427 [18:54] <lutzee> Ryan_, you on a mac?
#3428 [18:54] <Ryan_> yes
#3429 [18:54] <lutzee> :|
#3430 [18:54] <lutzee> i'm just digging myself into a whole
#3431 [18:55] <lutzee> hole*
#3432 [18:55] <Ryan_> I'm in the process of moving and my pc in temporarily in storage
#3433 [18:55] <Ryan_> i guess that im out of luck until i can get it out
#3434 [18:56] <Sitchel> Can someone tell me how to reinstall the minecraft folders
#3435 [18:56] <lutzee> sigh, i'm going to have a break from this, hopefully someone else should be arround to help soon
#3436 [18:56] <Sitchel> ok'
#3437 [18:57] <lutzee> Don't forget this is the community offering support, we are not affiliated with mojang in any way
#3438 [18:57] <hstepp> It was successful
#3439 [18:57] <lutzee> hstepp, what is your minecraft player name?
#3440 [18:58] <hstepp> hstepp
#3441 [18:58] <lutzee> !paid hstepp
#3442 [18:58] <lutzee> The transaction has not worked,
#3443 [18:58] <Deathspawn> where is a bugtracker located? used to be on getsatisfaction.com...
#3444 [18:58] <hstepp> Well then I am out 30$ and will never use minecraft
#3445 [18:58] <lutzee> Deathspawn, whats the bug?
#3446 [18:59] <jlkkljh> ill try to reinstall java real quick
#3447 [18:59] <Deathspawn> or some place just to report bugs
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#3449 [19:00] <shapeshifter12> i'm trying to log in and i get a black screen
#3450 [19:00] <Deathspawn> lots really.. invisible lilypads, pistons acting weird next to x:30000000, paintings able to be placed on top of eachother if placed on a block next to the border (yea i was testing stuff near there). the lilypad glitch appears to be everywhere
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#3452 [19:01] <lutzee> Deathspawn, hmm, could be your graphics but the edge of the world is a glitchy area
#3453 [19:02] <lutzee> they don't know much about why it happens :p
#3454 [19:03] <Deathspawn> yea apparently it was changed from farlands to you just fall through blocks that look like they are there... should have gone the invisible wall route imo.
#3455 [19:03] <shapeshifter12> anyone know how to fix the black screen
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#3457 [19:05] <Wug> so hows 1.3
#3458 [19:06] <tidaltrickster> So after I updated my spawn point changed. I don't know how to get to my things and my old respawn point. Any help?
#3459 [19:06] <Wug> tidaltrickster: you can set your spawn point with mcedit
#3460 [19:07] <tidaltrickster> but I need my old coordinates right? which I don't know
#3461 [19:07] <tidaltrickster> is mcedit a program?
#3462 [19:08] <Wug> it is a program yes
#3463 [19:08] <Wug> you should be able to look around and find the area you used to spawn in
#3464 [19:08] <tidaltrickster> okay
#3465 [19:09] <tidaltrickster> another quiestion, Can you take your .minecraft from windows and move it to a linux system?
#3466 [19:10] <tidaltrickster> I'll try and see if it works nevermind
#3467 [19:10] <Wug> yes you can.
#3468 [19:10] <Wug> put it in ~
#3469 [19:10] <Wug> so its path should be ~/.minecraft
#3470 [19:11] <tidaltrickster> its a server I setup in an old laptop
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#3472 [19:12] <HelpNeeded> Hello?
#3473 [19:12] <zen> hi
#3474 [19:12] <HelpNeeded> Are You Minecraft support?
#3475 [19:12] <Wug> in that case, move it wherever.
#3476 [19:12] <Wug> HelpNeeded: yes.
#3477 [19:12] <tidaltrickster> okay thanks
#3478 [19:13] <HelpNeeded> Okay... I have a problem with my account purchasing minecraft
#3479 [19:14] <HelpNeeded> You see, I typed in my information correctly, then I was shown a message that said that money could not be deducted.
#3480 [19:14] <lutzee> HelpNeeded, what payment method did you use?
#3481 [19:14] <HelpNeeded> But then, back on the minecraft homepage, it said purchase sucessful.
#3482 [19:14] <HelpNeeded> I used VISA.
#3483 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> HelpNeeded: have you checked with your financial institution?
#3484 [19:15] <HelpNeeded> Not yet.
#3485 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> Do
#3486 [19:15] <HelpNeeded> Okay.
#3487 [19:15] <HelpNeeded> Thank you.
#3488 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> that is the only place you can go for authorative confirmation as to whether the monies have been debited or not
#3489 [19:15] <DopeGhoti> you're welcome
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#3501 [20:01] <bryco> we have found am update that allows 2 players to play against each other. My brother was able to get in but when I tried to connect to server using the server address shown in the lower left of the screen and it just kept giving me the message "Cannot connect to server". What am I doing wrong?
#3502 [20:02] <bryco> The address I used was in his screen so I could join him
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#3504 [20:02] <Guest_> help
#3505 [20:02] <Guest_> guys
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#3507 [20:03] <Guest_> my sphax purebd craft isnt working
#3508 [20:03] <HelpPlease> Hello, I am having troubles with my Hamachi server.
#3509 [20:03] <Guest_> what are they?
#3510 [20:04] <Guest_> bump
#3511 [20:04] <HelpPlease> Well... I start up the server, and it runs fine. Then when I go to log into it it Errors.
#3512 [20:04] <Wug> HelpPlease: we don't support hamachi
#3513 [20:04] <Guest_> what is the error end of stream
#3514 [20:04] <HelpPlease> It is.
#3515 [20:04] <Guest_> oh...
#3516 [20:04] <bryco> Please help as my little brother is very disappointed we both couldn't get in
#3517 [20:04] <Guest_> try localhost instead of ip
#3518 [20:04] <Wug> bryco: what address was he connecting to
#3519 [20:04] <Guest_> thats all i know
#3520 [20:05] <HelpPlease> I have, it failed me yet again.
#3521 [20:05] <Guest_> try a pure minecraft server without hamachi
#3522 [20:05] <HelpPlease> How?
#3523 [20:05] <Guest_> download server.jar
#3524 [20:05] <Wug> HelpPlease: did you put something in the server-ip line of the config
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#3526 [20:05] <Wug> if so clear it
#3527 [20:06] <Guest_> yeah
#3528 [20:06] <HelpPlease> I did not.
#3529 [20:06] <bryco> The address was 192.168.1.138:49262
#3530 [20:06] <Guest_> i have hamachi i could take a look
#3531 [20:06] <Guest_> i promise i wont hurt it
#3532 [20:07] <Guest_> bumpity
#3533 [20:07] <Guest_> hey
#3534 [20:08] <Guest_> can someone help me with my sphax purebd craft
#3535 [20:08] <HelpPlease> I still need some help...
#3536 [20:08] <Guest_> brb
#3537 [20:08] <bryco> I still need help too
#3538 [20:08] <Guest_> bump
#3539 [20:09] <HelpPlease> I'll be back in a little bit.
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#3541 [20:09] <Guest_> can you help me with my sphax purebdcraft
#3542 [20:09] <Guest_> image is here:http://tinypic.com/r/6zahw9/6
#3543 [20:09] <Guest_> i did use mcpatcher
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#3545 [20:10] <Guest_> anyone?
#3546 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> Guest_: I'm sorry, but we don't help with modded versions of Minecraft here
#3547 [20:10] <Guest_> oh
#3548 [20:10] <bryco> are you there?
#3549 [20:10] <Guest_> sorry
#3550 [20:10] <Guest_> than what do i do?
#3551 [20:10] <Guest_> i dont have any forum accounts
#3552 [20:10] <DiskDaemon> Would you like us to find out where you get help with that?
#3553 [20:10] <Guest_> yes!
#3554 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> purebdcraft
#3555 [20:11] <Guest_> yeah but i dont have a forum account there
#3556 [20:11] <Guest_> yeah but i dont have a forum account there
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#3558 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> The forum for assistance with sphax bdcraft is over at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/376784-
#3559 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> purebdcraft, that is.
#3560 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> Forums accounts are free. Go and create one.
#3561 [20:12] <Guest_> i dont want to give out email
#3562 [20:12] <Guest_> thanks anyways
#3563 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#3564 [20:13] <bryco> what about my problem of being able to get into one 2 man player and not the other. we are on the same internet syatem in the same house if that matters.
#3565 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> There are also free email services such as yahoo.com which you can use for a temporary email account
#3566 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> I'm sorry, but I don't know enough to be able to help with that
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#3568 [20:14] <jj> hello
#3569 [20:14] <jj> hello
#3570 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> hi there
#3571 [20:14] <jj> hi
#3572 [20:15] <jj> umm i just bought minecraft i just wanted to know why its not working
#3573 [20:15] <jj> hello
#3574 [20:15] <DiskDaemon> What's not working about it?
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#3576 [20:15] <jj> it says user not premium
#3577 [20:15] <Wug> how did you pay
#3578 [20:15] <jj> paypal
#3579 [20:16] <Wug> try waiting a little while
#3580 [20:16] <jj> ok
#3581 [20:16] <jj> thank you
#3582 [20:16] <jj> bye
#3583 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> jj: please read this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
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#3585 [20:19] <bryco> does anyone know how for both playerd;.......................................................................333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
#3586 [20:20] <xales> :|
#3587 [20:20] <GreyVulpine> really..
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#3589 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> bryco: Please try to avoid that again.
#3590 [20:20] <MineBreach> can some1 help
#3591 [20:20] <DiskDaemon> we can try
#3592 [20:20] <MineBreach> ive been having the problem can not connect to minecraft.net for 3 weeks now
#3593 [20:21] <MineBreach> ive tried running as admin restarting and other stuff seems to not work
#3594 [20:21] <DiskDaemon> Is this when you visit them with your web browser, or in some other way?
#3595 [20:21] * Wug shoots bosons at xales
#3595 [20:21] * GreyVulpine prods Wug with Wugbot's corpse
#3595 [20:22] <Wug> sdzgfasdfg
#3596 [20:22] <MineBreach> any1 know why>
#3597 [20:22] <GreyVulpine> MineBreach - Are you able to connect to minecraft.net via your browser?
#3598 [20:22] <DiskDaemon> MineBreach: Is this when you visit them with your web browser, or in some other way?
#3599 [20:22] * Wug kills xales and prods GreyVulpine with xales' corpse
#3599 [20:22] <bryco> I'm sorry, I fell asleep with my hand on the three
#3600 [20:22] <MineBreach> i can connect to minecraft.net i think its my loader
#3601 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> MineBreach - What do you see when you go to: https://login.minecraft.net/?user=Meep&password=notreal&version=13
#3602 [20:23] <MineBreach> bad login
#3603 [20:23] <GreyVulpine> Do you get a news feed in the launcher?
#3604 [20:23] <Wug> MineBreach: did you update to java 7 at about the time it stopped working
#3605 [20:23] <MineBreach> yes i do
#3606 [20:23] <bryco> never mind, I'll try later.
#3607 [20:23] <DiskDaemon> WIth the minecraft.exe launcher - does the news section appear at the top of the launcher, or is there some strange text there. And, does the bottom section of the launcher have a dirt background, or a black background?
#3608 [20:23] <MineBreach> it just doesnt let me log in
#3609 [20:24] <MineBreach> the minecraft.exe is fine it just doesnt let me loging
#3610 [20:24] <MineBreach> login*
#3611 [20:24] <DiskDaemon> MineBreach: Can we please get a screenshot of the launcher when it doesn't let you log in?
#3612 [20:24] <MineBreach> yea my java is updated
#3613 [20:25] <MineBreach> disk u got skype?
#3614 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> no
#3615 [20:25] <MineBreach> how i send?
#3616 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> You can upload a screnshot to imgur.com
#3617 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> You can take a screenshot using the Snipping Tool program that comes with most computers.
#3618 [20:26] <DiskDaemon> You can take a screenshot using the Snipping Tool program that comes with most computers.
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#3620 [20:27] <MineBreach> http://imgur.com/0fGLX
#3621 [20:27] <MineBreach> there
#3622 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> The bottom section has a black background
#3623 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> ?? MineBreach win/!
#3624 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> it's ??>
#3625 [20:28] <MineBreach> how i fix?
#3626 [20:28] <DiskDaemon> ??> MineBreach win/!
#3627 [20:28] <VoxelHead> MineBreach: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#3628 [20:28] <VoxelHead> MineBreach: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
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#3630 [20:29] <HelpPlease> Okay, I need help with my Minecraft server.
#3631 [20:29] <MineBreach> TY!!!
#3632 [20:29] <DiskDaemon> you're welcome
#3633 [20:30] <xales> HelpPlease: Specifically?
#3634 [20:30] <HelpPlease> [INFO] /x.xxx.xx.x:xxxx is the error I receive.
#3635 [20:30] <HelpPlease> After booting up my server and trying to log in.
#3636 [20:30] <MineBreach> well i know where to come if i need help again thanks disk and voxel
#3637 [20:30] <xales> HelpPlease: Have you updated the server?
#3638 [20:31] <HelpPlease> Well, I started it yesterday after dowloading 1.3.1
#3639 [20:31] <HelpPlease> So... I think so...
#3640 [20:31] <xales> When did you download the minecraft_server.jar (or .exe) file?
#3641 [20:32] <HelpPlease> Before 1.3.1
#3642 [20:32] <HelpPlease> That makes a difference?
#3643 [20:32] <xales> If you are using 1.3.1, then you need the 1.3.1 server as well
#3644 [20:32] <HelpPlease> How do I get that?
#3645 [20:32] <xales> Which means you need to redownload it, as the server does not update automatically
#3646 [20:32] <HelpPlease> Right-o! I'll give it a shot.
#3647 [20:33] <HelpPlease> This should solve all the problems?
#3648 [20:34] <HelpPlease> Wow! Thanks!
#3649 [20:34] <HelpPlease> :D
#3650 [20:35] <HelpPlease> Have a great day!
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#3656 [20:51] <DamienC> hi. i'm trying to run 1.3.1 in demo mode to see if i like the game before i buy it, but it doesn't seem to be working properly. can someone help
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#3658 [20:52] <xales> DamienC: How is it not working properly?
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#3660 [20:53] <DamienC> i've downloaded the executable and ran it. I can log in, and i pick the option to force update. once i log in i pick "demo mode." then i get a screen that says "Updating Minecraft" and "Done Loading" with a green progress bar that's about 95% full
#3661 [20:53] <DamienC> it's stuck there.
#3662 [20:53] <xales> DamienC: Do you happen to use AVG?
#3663 [20:53] <DamienC> nope, i use MSE
#3664 [20:54] <xales> Hmm. Any other security software at all?
#3665 [20:54] <DamienC> no, this is a relatively fresh install of win7 with very few programs
#3666 [20:54] <papaganoush> good day. okay so all the mods on my mcmyadmin server and myself can use all the assigned commands in chat except the tp command is there some change in the smp commands?
#3667 [20:54] <xales> papaganoush: Try asking in #mcmyadmin
#3668 [20:54] <xales> ??> DamienC win/reinst
#3669 [20:54] <VoxelHead> DamienC: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3670 [20:55] <VoxelHead> DamienC: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3671 [20:55] <papaganoush> xales tp is not a mcmyadmin command
#3672 [20:55] <DamienC> i have done this already, but for the sake of completeness i will try that again. one minute
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#3674 [20:56] <xales> papaganoush: Yes, but the tp commands works with plain vanilla Minecraft, so if it doesn't work when you are using a wrapper such as MCMyAdmin, then that would be the problem.
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#3676 [20:56] <DamienC> got the same result. all that was in the .minecraft folder was an empty "bin" folder
#3677 [20:58] <papaganoush> okay asked.
#3678 [20:58] <xales> DamienC: Hmm. Did you download the launcher (Minecraft.exe) before or after the new version came out (which was yesterday)?
#3679 [20:58] <papaganoush> the tp command works fine in the mcmyadmin console but fails in the minecraft chat
#3680 [20:58] <DamienC> today is the first time i've ever tried it.
#3681 [20:58] <xales> DamienC: Are you familiar with how to launch an application from the command prompt?
#3682 [20:59] <DamienC> yup
#3683 [20:59] <xales> DamienC: Try launching Minecraft that way, so whatever error has somewhere to go. The command would be similar to: "java -jar Minecraft.exe"
#3684 [21:00] <DamienC> ok, done
#3685 [21:00] <DamienC> want me to log in and whatnot
#3686 [21:00] <xales> Yeah
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#3688 [21:01] <DamienC> ok, logged in, got the same "Done Loading" screen and in the console window some stuff has outputted.
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#3690 [21:01] <frogmella> Hello?
#3691 [21:02] <frogmella> I suddenly started getting an error and am unsure what to do
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#3693 [21:04] <xales> DamienC: Okay; can you copy what's in the console to pastebin?
#3694 [21:04] <xales> frogmella: What error?
#3695 [21:04] <DamienC> ok, give me a minute
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#3697 [21:04] <frogmella> java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
#3698 [21:05] <frogmella> that is the error I keep getting
#3699 [21:05] <frogmella> And it was working fine about an hour ago
#3700 [21:05] <Starbreaker08> what?
#3701 [21:05] <xales> frogmella: Do you get this error when you try to connect to a server?
#3702 [21:05] <Starbreaker08> My demo won't load?
#3703 [21:05] <xales> Starbreaker08: Why won't it?
#3704 [21:05] <Starbreaker08> It's like it freezes..
#3705 [21:06] <frogmella> No whenever I load up the game that appears instead of the news and when I try to login it just says cannot connect to minecraft.net
#3706 [21:06] <xales> frogmella: Did you recently update Java?
#3707 [21:06] <xales> Starbreaker08: Where does it freeze? Please be as specific as possibe.
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#3709 [21:06] <frogmella> I did yesterday
#3710 [21:07] <xales> frogmella: Uninstall every version of Java that you have, then reinstall it from here:
#3711 [21:07] <Starbreaker08> After i press play demo...a brown screen pops up that says its done loading but it looks like it has just a bit more to load but it won't leave that screen
#3712 [21:07] <xales> ??> frogmella getjava
#3713 [21:07] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#3714 [21:07] <xales> Starbreaker08: Do you happen to use AVG?
#3715 [21:08] <frogmella> No I do not use AVG
#3716 [21:08] <Starbreaker08> Im not sure what that is?
#3717 [21:08] <xales> ??> frogmella only/you
#3718 [21:08] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#3719 [21:08] <VoxelHead> frogmella: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#3720 [21:08] <xales> Starbreaker08: It's an antivirus/antimalware program that is known to have issues with Minecraft.
#3721 [21:08] <Starbreaker08> I don't think i do..
#3722 [21:09] <DamienC> xales: How about a snipping tool screenshot? I'm having trouble trying to copy text from the console
#3723 [21:09] <xales> Starbreaker08: Okay; someone else has the same issue as you, and I'm currently working on diagnosing that. The demo was only released yesterday, it may have some issues. If I can come up with a solution I'll let you know, but it may just be that Mojang has to fix it.
#3724 [21:09] <xales> DamienC: Right click in it, and hit Mark. Drag a selection over what you want to copy, hit Enter. It will be in the clipboard.
#3725 [21:09] <Starbreaker08> okay, thank you
#3726 [21:09] <Nathan2055> Is there anybody else here who needs assistance?
#3727 [21:10] <xales> Nathan2055: That's not really how it works. :p
#3728 [21:10] <DamienC> ok, looks like it truncated a line or two though
#3729 [21:10] <DamienC> http://pastebin.com/VXRXcEje
#3730 [21:10] <Nathan2055> xales: I know, but sometimes when people line up someone gets lost.
#3731 [21:10] <Nathan2055> If you get my meaning.
#3732 [21:12] <Nathan2055> xales: What's the issue?
#3733 [21:12] <Nathan2055> With the demo?
#3734 [21:13] <xales> It seems like the launcher is broken, doesn't actually download the demo, but it works if it's already downloaded (due to using a premium account or whatever)
#3735 [21:13] <Nathan2055> That's no good.
#3736 [21:13] <Nathan2055> I haven't tested the demo yet, but that's on my list.
#3737 [21:14] <Nathan2055> Along with running through all of the w30e bugs and testing them in 1.3.1.
#3738 [21:14] <Nathan2055> :P
#3739 [21:14] <frogmella> It works now. That updated Java seems to have messed me over. Thank you very much for the help/
#3740 [21:15] <xales> DamienC, Starbreaker08: This would appear to be a problem with the demo on Mojang's end (the launcher is broken); I'll try to get someone to look into it, it should be fixed in a day or two. The demo is relatively new, and Mojang is a fairly small company, so this is pretty normal for things to not work the first few days.
#3741 [21:15] <DamienC> that's cool. didn't know it just came out. thanks
#3742 [21:17] <Nathan2055> The demo was added yesterday.
#3743 [21:17] <Nathan2055> I'll file a bug report right now.
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#3745 [21:18] <xales> Nathan2055: I'm just going to bother a developer directly, easier that way. I don't think they read those often enough. :p
#3746 [21:19] <Nathan2055> The developers are in a channel?
#3747 [21:19] <Oldman> I just spent that last couple of days making all kinds of rails, laying down the rail.Been farming the gold / iron.. and all of my rail track has poofed. This is the third time.Is this some kind of bug. Because I really don't like wasting mytime.
#3748 [21:19] <xales> Nathan2055: Yeah, sort of
#3749 [21:19] <xales> Oldman: Are you using any sort of mods?
#3750 [21:20] <Oldman> only mod I am using was xray
#3751 [21:20] <xales> Well, I can't think of any reason it would do that unless the mod broke it, which is possible. Your would could be corrupt, which happens much more often when using mods, as well.
#3752 [21:21] <xales> You could just edit your inventory and give yourself the rails back, or something.
#3753 [21:21] <Oldman> so does that mean I need to ditch the world I have spent weeks on? Or is it repairable?
#3754 [21:21] <xales> Well, if the game hasn't been crashing, it's likely not significant and the game recovered on it's own.
#3755 [21:22] <Oldman> aka you mean it recovered the all my efforts and flushed them down the tube? =( This happened before the patch, and now afterwards. It is quite disappointing.
#3756 [21:23] <xales> Well, the alternative would be your world becoming unplayable (the game crashing when you try to open it)
#3757 [21:23] <Oldman> sounds like broken code =( Oh well. I guess I just won't use the rail system. I will hit the forums and let them know.
#3758 [21:26] <Nathan2055> Oldman: I'd head to the wiki, bug page is at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_1.3.1 Mojang reads that.
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#3760 [21:27] <Fayyad1> hello?
#3761 [21:27] <xales> Hi.
#3762 [21:27] <Fayyad1> is this tech support?
#3763 [21:28] <Wug> sort of. if you have a question, go ahead and ask.
#3764 [21:29] <Fayyad1> my minecraft has been updated to 1.3.1 but has a couple things that are messed up. redstone, stone grass, and a couple other things either dont show up (they show up blank in the inventory) or have,like, fire on it. what do i do?
#3765 [21:29] <xales> Fayyad1: Were you using mods before you updated?
#3766 [21:30] <Fayyad1> i was using optifine only
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#3769 [21:31] <Oryx> Hello
#3770 [21:31] <lilcro> hello?
#3771 [21:31] <Oryx> About 1.3
#3772 [21:31] <lilcro> kinda
#3773 [21:31] <Oryx> Is there new seeds or are they the same with added goodies
#3774 [21:31] <lilcro> ?
#3775 [21:31] <xales> Oryx: World generation has not changed to my knowledge.
#3776 [21:31] <Fayyad1> both i guess
#3777 [21:32] <xales> ??> Fayyad1 forceupdate
#3778 [21:32] <VoxelHead> Fayyad1: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3779 [21:32] <VoxelHead> Fayyad1: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3780 [21:32] <Fayyad1> i did that but its still the same.
#3781 [21:32] <Fayyad1> let me try again
#3782 [21:32] <lilcro> why qwont minecraft let me buy minecraft?
#3783 [21:32] <Oryx> how do I install minecraft?
#3784 [21:32] <Oryx> *mods
#3785 [21:33] <Oryx> :derp:
#3786 [21:33] <xales> lilcro: Why won't it? Does it give you an error message? We can't help you unless we know, specifically, what happens.
#3787 [21:33] <xales> ??> Oryx mods
#3788 [21:33] <VoxelHead> Oryx: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#3789 [21:33] <VoxelHead> Oryx: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#3790 [21:33] <Oryx> ugh
#3791 [21:33] <lilcro> it gives me a glitched errer message
#3792 [21:33] <xales> Oryx: You could ask in #risucraft as well
#3793 [21:33] <xales> lilcro: What, *exactly*, does it say?
#3794 [21:34] <Oryx> ah ok
#3795 [21:34] <Fayyad1> hey guys, i forced update but its still the same. now what? am i screwed?
#3796 [21:34] <lilcro> your bank card denide the perchase
#3797 [21:34] <xales> Fayyad1: Sounds like it, yeah
#3798 [21:34] <Fayyad1> awww man.
#3799 [21:35] <xales> Your world may have become partially corrupted or something, which may be due to running OptiFine. Third-party software often does weird things.
#3800 [21:35] <Fayyad1> ill try to uninstall it, then reinstall.
#3801 [21:35] <xales> lilcro: Are you trying to use a gift card?
#3802 [21:35] <lilcro> no a bank card to buy the full game
#3803 [21:36] <xales> lilcro: As the error says, your bank is denying the transaction. This is usually because it is an international purchase. Call them, and ask them to allow the transaction. Then you can try buying it.
#3804 [21:36] <lilcro> whats there number?
#3805 [21:37] <Scott> How are we supposed to know your banks number? lol
#3806 [21:37] <xales> It's on the back of the card.
#3807 [21:37] <Wug> lilcro: ask your parents for help.
#3808 [21:37] <Wug> they will know how to contact the bank and approve the transaction.
#3809 [21:38] <lilcro> bank is closed
#3810 [21:38] <lilcro> :(
#3811 [21:38] <xales> Then you'll have to wait until it opens
#3812 [21:38] <lilcro> thanks
#3813 [21:40] <Fayyad1> ok well some of it has gotten fixed. i gtg bye and thanks
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#3817 [21:58] <WhiteMoon> anyone there?
#3818 [21:58] <WhiteMoon> i really need help now
#3819 [21:58] <Rikairchy> nope
#3820 [21:58] <Rikairchy> its our day off
#3821 [21:58] <Rikairchy> please try again in 20 hours or so
#3822 [21:58] <WhiteMoon> :'(
#3823 [21:59] <Rikairchy> even Smanly left
#3824 [21:59] <WhiteMoon> i really need help with Aether mod
#3825 [21:59] <WhiteMoon> i have LInux
#3826 [21:59] <Rikairchy> ooooh
#3827 [21:59] <WhiteMoon> and i dont know how to
#3828 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> Hi there, Aether dev speaking.
#3829 [21:59] <Rikairchy> isnt that the one that adds skylands?
#3830 [21:59] <WhiteMoon> yeah
#3831 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> Please come on over to #aethermod
#3832 [22:00] <DiskDaemon> /join #aethermod
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#3838 [22:19] <herowyn> I bought a gift code for a friend and it says the gift code doesn't work. It also says that the account it was given to is my account. Is there a way to transfer it?
#3839 [22:20] <xales> You should have gotten an email with the gift code in it; it's also listed when you log in to your account on minecraft.net. They just have to enter the code while logged into their account.
#3840 [22:20] <herowyn> I gave my friend the code and it said it was invalid or already used
#3841 [22:21] <xales> Then they didn't enter it correctly
#3842 [22:21] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/353966-my-gift-code-does-not-work
#3843 [22:21] <herowyn> Thank you for your help
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#3845 [22:25] <james001> heelo?
#3846 [22:25] <xales> Hi.
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#3849 [22:25] <james001> can we post questions here about minecraft?
#3850 [22:26] <xales> That would be why this place exists, yes.
#3851 [22:26] <james001> Hello, I have been playing minecraft for a number of months now, actually for the better part of a year. I have never had an issue but for the last while I have had a large one. Hours of building and mining picking and proding and I have a modest home built, a small collection of ores, tools, food and the odd farm. Everything starts off just fine and dandy when suddenly, I log out go about my daily business and later when I return to minecraft to l
#3852 [22:26] <xales> Your message was truncated.
#3853 [22:26] <james001> what is that?
#3854 [22:27] <Wug> the end is missing.
#3855 [22:27] <Wug> "when I return to minecraft to l
#3856 [22:27] <MasterHonkey> Hi i was wondering? I just got minecraft yesterday and i got the frame rate up but now i dont even see the sky at all it just looks like a massive fog
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#3858 [22:27] <Arle> When he returns to Minecraft, he runs into the message limit :)
#3859 [22:27] <Arle> MasterHonkey, what's your render distance set to?
#3860 [22:27] <MasterHonkey> tiny
#3861 [22:28] <Arle> yeah, I don't think you can see the sky through that.
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#3863 [22:28] <wooby> hello?
#3864 [22:28] <Arle> MasterHonkey, change it to normal if it doesn't lag too much.
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#3866 [22:28] <Arle> wooby, hi
#3867 [22:28] <wooby> minecraft is crashing, any help?
#3868 [22:28] <MasterHonkey> I'll try it and get back to ya
#3869 [22:28] <wooby> got the report log
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#3871 [22:28] <xales> wooby: Please paste the crash report at http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link.
#3872 [22:29] <james001> Oh. Ok well basically, I leave my world come back and get a saving chunks message and a black screen. I have to close out minecraft and when I reload my world most of it has reverted back to how it was initally. My home and anything I have built are mostly gone.
#3873 [22:29] <core_> Excuse me but
#3874 [22:29] <core_> I can't seem to add the emerald block onto Nodus when I do attempt to enable my xraying hack.
#3875 [22:29] <core_> It was working fine in the pre releases
#3876 [22:29] <core_> Did the ID get changed?
#3877 [22:29] <MasterHonkey> yeah it worked thank you
#3878 [22:29] <wooby> http://pastebin.com/yugxwLyS
#3879 [22:29] <xales> core_: We can't provide assistance with third party software, or mods. Sorry. You can find information about the ID on the wiki.
#3880 [22:29] <core_> Oh, that's too bad
#3881 [22:29] <core_> Thanks for your help anyways,.
#3882 [22:30] <xales> james001: It sounds like your world has become corrupted. Probably not much you can do at this point, unless you have a backup. Were you using mods before you upgraded?
#3883 [22:30] <wooby> xales; http://pastebin.com/yugxwLyS
#3884 [22:30] <james001> It does it time after time.
#3885 [22:30] <core_> I don't think that counts as an corruption
#3886 [22:30] <core_> What's the problem?
#3887 [22:30] <xales> james001: Does it do it in new worlds, as well?
#3888 [22:30] <core_> If you translate the obfuscated files, maybe you can get something out of it.
#3889 [22:30] <james001> I have reinstalled a clean minecraft dozens of times
#3890 [22:31] <xales> wooby: I have no idea what that error is, but you can report it on the wiki.
#3891 [22:31] <xales> james001: Yes, but does this problem occur in just *one* world, or with more than one?
#3892 [22:31] <core_> Wat
#3893 [22:31] <james001> eventually any and all of them
#3894 [22:31] <wooby> okay. well i get like 5 minutes of playing time, exits world and says "internal server error:
#3895 [22:31] <wooby> then i open world, crashesr
#3896 [22:31] <xales> ??> wooby forceupdate
#3897 [22:31] <VoxelHead> wooby: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3898 [22:31] <VoxelHead> wooby: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3899 [22:31] <wooby> okay
#3900 [22:31] <core_> James, try to downgrade to a lower version
#3901 [22:32] <core_> And see if it still crashes.
#3902 [22:32] <james001> I have 1.2.5
#3903 [22:32] <wooby> xales, i just installed tmi, does that make any difference?
#3904 [22:32] <core_> Ah
#3905 [22:32] <core_> It did update to 1.3.1
#3906 [22:32] <xales> wooby: That could be related, yes.
#3907 [22:32] <wooby> okay, thanks
#3908 [22:32] <core_> If you used any pre releases
#3909 [22:32] <core_> It might have caused the corruption
#3910 [22:32] <core_> But, a corruption is too deep to speak off.
#3911 [22:32] <core_> It's fixable
#3912 [22:32] <james001> I have only ever used Released versions.
#3913 [22:33] <core_> The official ones?
#3914 [22:33] <core_> Hmm.
#3915 [22:33] <james001> Yes
#3916 [22:33] <core_> Can you show me the logs of the crashing
#3917 [22:33] <core_> And is it on a single player server?
#3918 [22:33] <james001> There are no logs. It doesnt exactly crash
#3919 [22:33] <core_> What happenes?
#3920 [22:33] <core_> happeneds*
#3921 [22:34] <james001> happens is correct.
#3922 [22:34] <core_> Ah, thanks.
#3923 [22:34] <core_> So, what happens?
#3924 [22:34] <james001> my world loads but mostly all of everthing I have done is gone.
#3925 [22:35] <core_> Would you mind if you messaged me a copy of your world
#3926 [22:35] <core_> Just to confirm it's not you
#3927 [22:35] <core_> And
#3928 [22:35] <core_> Maybe it can be a chunk error.
#3929 [22:35] <james001> I am not sure how to do that.
#3930 [22:35] <core_> www.mediafire.com
#3931 [22:35] <core_> Drop your world there and send it to me and I will see if it works
#3932 [22:35] <core_> If it does, I will be sure to send it back.
#3933 [22:36] <james001> ok. I will need a few minutes. The only file I have currently has ic2 and buildcraft
#3934 [22:36] <core_> As your main worlds?
#3935 [22:36] <core_> Send me the one that got corrupt.
#3936 [22:37] <core_> Make a backup of it before it the problem get's worse.
#3937 [22:37] <james001> ok
#3938 [22:38] <james001> I doubt it could get worse. I don't really care about the current world. it was more of a test to see if I had fixed the problem
#3939 [22:39] <core_> alright
#3940 [22:40] <james001> I am just making a media fire account.
#3941 [22:41] <core_> Is that required now?
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#3943 [22:41] <core_> Ah
#3944 [22:41] <core_> Well another choice is dropbox
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#3946 [22:42] <Guest83844> is anyone having truble with updating to 1.3 with a mac?
#3947 [22:43] <james001> Silly question, I selected upload, found the save file but the only option is to open the file, not attach or upload it. What do I do?
#3948 [22:43] <Guest83844> is anyone having truble with updating to 1.3 with a mac?
#3949 [22:43] <Guest83844> i need help becuse it sayes could not launceh
#3950 [22:43] <xales> ??> Guest83844 mac/reinst
#3951 [22:43] <core_> Hmm
#3952 [22:43] <VoxelHead> Guest83844: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3953 [22:43] <VoxelHead> Guest83844: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#3954 [22:44] <core_> I don't use mediafire too much
#3955 [22:44] <core_> But I believe you would be saving it onto the account?
#3956 [22:44] <james001> me either
#3957 [22:44] <core_> If you dislike mediafire, feel free to use dropbox
#3958 [22:45] <core_> It's an lightweight software that allows you to paste programs or files onto a 'public' folder and retrieve the public link
#3959 [22:45] <core_> redistribute stuff if you may
#3960 [22:45] <james001> I just compressed it into a rar it seems to be working
#3961 [22:45] <core_> alright.
#3962 [22:45] <james001> http://www.mediafire.com/?6lq7bb7jwfcv3vq
#3963 [22:46] <james001> ok it worked. It is called Goomba
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#3965 [22:46] <core_> Testing
#3966 [22:46] <james001> It is the entire save I wasn't too sure on what you needed.
#3967 [22:47] <core_> That was enough
#3968 [22:48] <james001> You should spawn in a small mostly destroyed house with a smaller house containing chests to the right and a mineshaft with a railsystem to the right.
#3969 [22:49] <core_> Did you use any mods?
#3970 [22:49] <james001> The house was complete and intact before I reloaded the save. After I loaded it as hopefully you can see many of the chunks have respawned.
#3971 [22:49] <james001> Yes, IC2 and buildcraft
#3972 [22:49] <core_> Hmm
#3973 [22:49] <core_> Are you still using those mods
#3974 [22:50] <core_> ?
#3975 [22:50] <core_> I mean
#3976 [22:50] <core_> Are they still on your minecraft.jar
#3977 [22:50] <core_> You might have used blocks that are not supported by the default jar
#3978 [22:50] <james001> I do not have any copies without the mods but I have tried without them and still the same thing eventually happens
#3979 [22:50] <james001> I have tried making a new world with nothing but a fresh vanilla minecraft file.
#3980 [22:50] <xales> james001: If you load a world which has mod items in it when you don't have the mod installed, this problem could be the result
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#3982 [22:51] <james001> I have completely deleted and reinstalled minecraft and it still occurs.
#3983 [22:51] <james001> With no mods at all.
#3984 [22:51] <core_> That might be the problem
#3985 [22:52] <core_> Reinstall IC2 and buildcraft and try again.
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#3987 [22:52] <james001> Even with a new map that has never had mods it occurs
#3988 [22:52] <wolf3> i have a question is if any one can help me with it
#3989 [22:53] <core_> I think I know what might have happened
#3990 [22:53] <james001> yes?
#3991 [22:53] <core_> You ran the map without the mods, resulting that they would have been removed.
#3992 [22:53] <james001> I may not be explaining myself well.
#3993 [22:54] <wolf3> im trying to find slimes and i have dug a 200 block long path and i have seen one am i doing something wrong ?
#3994 [22:54] <xales> james001: About how old is the computer you are running Minecraft on?
#3995 [22:54] <xales> wolf3: Slimes only spawn in certain chunks; check the wiki article.
#3996 [22:54] <james001> I have tried to deleted minecraft, opened the interface downloaded a brand new .minecraft file and started a new world with no mods. It still happens.
#3997 [22:54] <james001> 2-3 years old
#3998 [22:55] <james001> I have had minecraft and have been playing it for almost a year but this is new and has happened consistantly for the last month or two.
#3999 [22:56] <xales> james001: Do you know what kind of persistent storage device your computer uses? (HDD/SDD)?
#4000 [22:56] <WhiteMoon> minecraft sux
#4001 [22:56] <wolf3> yes i have it says that a 1/10 chunks are slime chunks and i have dug a 200 block or better path i should have hit one right ?
#4002 [22:56] <james001> I can check. I am not sure.
#4003 [22:56] <james001> I can check. I am not sure.
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#4005 [22:56] <Rikairchy> hey xales
#4006 [22:56] <core_> wolf, there are certain programs
#4007 [22:56] <core_> that allow you to check which chunks has slimes
#4008 [22:56] <core_> and you should dig out those
#4009 [22:56] <core_> usually 16x16
#4010 [22:56] <xales> hi Rikairchy
#4011 [22:57] <Rikairchy> you might want to ban WhiteMoon if s/he keeps continuing to return
#4012 [22:57] <Rikairchy> they're just a bored troll
#4013 [22:57] <wolf3> sry programs are out of the question will slimes spawn in a 3 high room ?
#4014 [22:57] <core_> Nope
#4015 [22:57] <core_> Has to be a certain chunk
#4016 [22:57] <core_> You can only detect by guessing
#4017 [22:58] <core_> Random r = new Random(slimechunks)
#4018 [22:58] <xales> wolf3: Slimes also need a somewhat large area to spawn (bigger than 2x1x1)
#4019 [22:58] <james001> Where would I look to find if i have HDD or SDD?
#4020 [22:58] <wolf3> i know but is three high enough to spawn them ?
#4021 [22:58] <core_> If you want a efficient farm, I suggest you go with a 16x16x28
#4022 [22:58] <xales> james001: Uh, device manager. But you'd probably know if you have one, you'd likely have had to pay up when you bought the computer.
#4023 [22:58] <xales> wolf3: What width?
#4024 [22:58] <wolf3> i have a 3 high 4 wide 200 block long path
#4025 [22:59] <core_> Slimes won't spawn everywhere
#4026 [22:59] <wolf3> if a chunk is 16
#4027 [22:59] <james001> I have Hard Disc Drives. Is that what you were asking?
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#4029 [23:00] <xales> james001: yes
#4030 [23:00] <wolf3> i should have hit one right ?
#4031 [23:00] <core_> again, there are certain chunks
#4032 [23:00] <core_> that spawn slimes
#4033 [23:00] <core_> you have to look for them
#4034 [23:01] <wolf3> i should have dug through one by now if theres a 1/10 chunk that spawns them
#4035 [23:01] <core_> There is a chance you might have gotten the wrong chunk
#4036 [23:01] <core_> Maybe 1/4 out of it
#4037 [23:01] <core_> Use a program to check
#4038 [23:01] <core_> I don't think there's another way
#4039 [23:02] <james001> Does that help at all?
#4040 [23:02] <wolf3> does a little
#4041 [23:02] <wolf3> i guess i will have to dig more lol
#4042 [23:02] <core_> wolf
#4043 [23:02] <core_> Use a slime chunk finder
#4044 [23:03] <wolf3> cant
#4045 [23:03] <core_> rei's minimap has that feature
#4046 [23:03] <james001> xales?
#4047 [23:03] <wolf3> im useing the 360 lol
#4048 [23:03] <core_> haha
#4049 [23:03] <Rikairchy> on purpose?
#4050 [23:03] <wolf3> stuck digging
#4051 [23:03] <core_> lol
#4052 [23:04] <core_> Does xbox have that seed feature
#4053 [23:04] <xales> james001: sorry
#4054 [23:04] <james001> That didn't help?
#4055 [23:04] <wolf3> seed feature ?
#4056 [23:04] <xales> james001: it's possible that your HDD is dying and not properly saving the chunks, which would result in such a problem. The only other thing I could think of that would interfere with saving is some sort of malware.
#4057 [23:05] <james001> Do you have any suggestions on how to find if it is malware?
#4058 [23:05] <core_> nortron
#4059 [23:06] <core_> I'm kidding, use the windows one
#4060 [23:06] <james001> Are you answering my question core_?
#4061 [23:06] <core_> Microsoft Security Essentials
#4062 [23:06] <core_> Well, if you do have an malware
#4063 [23:06] <core_> getting rid of it would be your priority
#4064 [23:06] <core_> but that's unlikely.
#4065 [23:07] <xales> james001: just checking, but...
#4066 [23:07] <james001> I thought xales meant something wrong in my minecraft jar
#4067 [23:07] <wolf3> but a slim will spawn in the path im digging if i hit a slime chunk right ? if its 3 high 4 wide ?
#4068 [23:07] <xales> james001: you don't happen to shut your computer off, or run the battery all the way down, or in another way lose power, while Minecraft is open?
#4069 [23:07] <xales> wolf3: That may not be wide enough. Check the wiki.
#4070 [23:07] <xales> or, large enough
#4071 [23:07] <xales> whatever
#4072 [23:07] <core_> wolf
#4073 [23:08] <james001> Nope. Never let the computer die
#4074 [23:08] <core_> You need to be in a certain chunk
#4075 [23:08] <core_> a slime chunk.
#4076 [23:08] <james001> I always close minecraft then shutdown
#4077 [23:08] <xales> james001: It's possible it could be a Java issue, but I doubt it...
#4078 [23:09] <james001> Do you think I should download the latest update and see if perhaps that resolves it?
#4079 [23:09] <core_> Can I ask how much video ram you have?
#4080 [23:09] <xales> That might be a good idea, yes. Before you do that, uninstall every version currently installed. Also, if you currently have Java 6 installed, install the latest version of Java 6, not Java 7.
#4081 [23:09] <xales> Which you can get from here...
#4082 [23:10] <core_> You might not be giving minecraft enough to save the world properly.
#4083 [23:10] <xales> ??> james001 getjava
#4084 [23:10] <VoxelHead> james001: (getjava) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#4085 [23:10] <core_> holy shit, what's your wpm
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#4087 [23:10] <xales> core_: Video memory is not relevant to the saving process at all
#4088 [23:10] <Rikairchy> its a bot dude
#4089 [23:10] <xales> :p
#4090 [23:10] <core_> oh shit, wat
#4091 [23:10] <xales> ??> core_ bot
#4092 [23:10] <VoxelHead> core_: (bot) I just type quickly.
#4093 [23:10] <core_> halp
#4094 [23:11] <wolf3> is there any way to mathematically figure a slim chunk based on map quardents ?
#4095 [23:11] <core_> you're really determined
#4096 [23:11] <xales> wolf3: No.
#4097 [23:11] <james001> Alright well thank you all very much for your help, I am heading to bed and hopefully can fix my problem in the morning. Thanks again Core_ and xales
#4098 [23:11] <wolf3> yes very
#4099 [23:12] <core_> night
#4100 [23:12] <james001> Have a great night.
#4101 [23:12] <wolf3> good night
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#4103 [23:17] <wolf3> ok another question will a map generate the same slime chunk each time you use the same seed ?
#4104 [23:17] <core_> it should.
#4105 [23:18] <wolf3> ok so if i find one i could share the X and Z with my friend who has the same map seed and visa versa
#4106 [23:19] <core_> just enter your seed onto a slime chunk finder
#4107 [23:19] <xales> core_: The Xbox may use a different algorithm
#4108 [23:19] <core_> yeah, I wouldn't doubt
#4109 [23:19] <core_> it's a different version
#4110 [23:19] <core_> but worth a try
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#4112 [23:20] <wolf3> yes its 1.7 something maps chang in beta 1.8
#4113 [23:20] <wolf3> change
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#4115 [23:21] <wolf3> well i guess i will go back to digging lol bye all
#4116 [23:21] <wolf3> well i guess i will go back to digging lol bye all
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#4118 [23:21] <wolf3> oh and ty for atleast trying to help
#4119 [23:22] <xales> !login
#4120 [23:28] <Eddie> !derp
#4121 [23:29] <Rikairchy> !herp
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#4124 [23:49] <hdon_> hi all :) i get disconnected (Connection reset) every time i try to connect to any server. i'm on win7-64.
#4125 [23:49] <hdon_> i don't use mswindows much so help would be greatly apprecated :D
#4126 [23:49] <xales> The servers you are trying to connect to are likely not updated.
#4127 [23:50] <hdon_> xales: i get a "Outdated server software" on some servers, but i decided not to downgrade just yet to access them
#4128 [23:50] <xales> it won't always give you an error, sometimes it will just give you a socket error
#4129 [23:51] <hdon_> xales: ahhh, i see
#4130 [23:51] * SgtTraveler^2 [SgtTraveler^2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#4131 [23:51] <hdon_> so i should probably downgrade... thanks notch for being such a stellar hacker that you broke the server browser out into a separate application that could detect the minecraft version and launch the correct version for the server selected
#4132 [23:51] <xales> lol
#4133 [23:53] <slowfi> all the minecraft servers I know are SNAFU'd
#4134 [23:53] <Wug> I think the session server might be having trouble
#4135 [23:54] <xales> Wug: yes
#4136 [23:54] <xales> Wug: help.mojang.com :p
#4137 [23:55] <slowfi> meanwhile, minecraft server sysadmins are getting filthy rich
#4138 [23:56] <xales> :p
#4139 [23:57] <Smanly> SNAFU'd?
#4140 [23:57] <Smanly> wat
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#4142 [23:59] <Sneaker_of84> hey guys need help
#4143 [23:59] <xales> With?