#1 [00:00] <Sneaker_of84> whenever i log in to minecraft then start a world, i move over a few blocks then it crashes
#2 [00:00] <xales> Have you tried to install any mods or texture packs?
#3 [00:01] <Sneaker_of84> yes
#4 [00:01] <Sneaker_of84> tmi
#5 [00:01] <Sneaker_of84> but thats it
#6 [00:01] <xales> Is that when it started crashing?
#7 [00:01] <Sneaker_of84> i also have the faithful texture pack, ovos rustic and misas 64x texture pack
#8 [00:02] <Sneaker_of84> and no
#9 [00:03] <xales> Sneaker_of84: So you are also using MCpatcher or OptiFine, then
#10 [00:03] <xales> ??> Sneaker_of84 forceupdate
#11 [00:03] <VoxelHead> Sneaker_of84: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#12 [00:03] <VoxelHead> Sneaker_of84: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#13 [00:03] <Sneaker_of84> i have already force update today
#14 [00:03] <Sneaker_of84> i was here earlier
#15 [00:04] <Sneaker_of84> saying i deleted the se.class
#16 [00:04] <Sneaker_of84> file. you told me the same thing so i did
#17 [00:04] <xales> Sneaker_of84: Yes, do the force update, then, *do not install any mods or use MCPatcher* and select the default texture pack, and try playing
#18 [00:04] <Sneaker_of84> and thats when it started crashing
#19 [00:05] <Sneaker_of84> i will try. so i cannot install any mods
#20 [00:05] <xales> Well, if it doesn't crash without mods, and after you install mods it starts crashing, then you have established something called "causality"
#21 [00:05] <xales> which means "the mods are making it crash"
#22 [00:05] <Sneaker_of84> so how can i fix that
#23 [00:06] <Sneaker_of84> if i can
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#25 [00:06] <xales> The problem is likely that the mods are not updated for 1.3.1 yet.
#26 [00:07] <Sneaker_of84> well i have tmi for 1.3.1 i think. unless those people are big liars
#27 [00:07] <xales> Well, you are also using HD textures, right? Does the method you are using to get those to work support 1.3.1? OptiFine is not updated for 1.3.1 as of yet.
#28 [00:08] <Sneaker_of84> im sorry im not a pro at this i dont know if im using hd textures
#29 [00:08] <xales> The Faithful texture pack is HD. It says quite clearly on the thread that you no doubt downloaded it from.
#30 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> Any textures greater than 16x16 are HD textures (high definition)
#31 [00:09] <Sneaker_of84> oh okay
#32 [00:09] <Sneaker_of84> i have a 64x texture pack
#33 [00:09] <Sneaker_of84> so should i just switch to a lower grade texture pack
#34 [00:09] <xales> That would be the easiest thing to do, yes
#35 [00:10] <Sneaker_of84> thanks for the help
#36 [00:10] <Sneaker_of84> i really appreciate it
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#38 [00:10] <xales> mhm
#39 [00:11] <Sneaker_of84> but do you have any idea when the optifine will be updated
#40 [00:11] <xales> The official thread says it is "60% updated"
#41 [00:12] <xales> Beyond that, I cannot tell you anything
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#43 [00:12] <Sneaker_of84> okay, thanks
#44 [00:13] <slowfi> I tried installing mods for 1.3. optifine and rei minimap. I don't think optifine is ready yet
#45 [00:13] <Sneaker_of84> nope its not working
#46 [00:13] <Sneaker_of84> crap
#47 [00:14] <slowfi> I found stuff that claimed rei minimap is ready for 1.3 but not optifine
#48 [00:15] <Sneaker_of84> xales you still there
#49 [00:15] <Sneaker_of84> ?
#50 [00:15] <xales> Sneaker_of84: indeed
#51 [00:15] <Sneaker_of84> i tried switching texture packs, still not working
#52 [00:15] <xales> ??> Sneaker_of84 win/reinst
#53 [00:15] <VoxelHead> Sneaker_of84: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#54 [00:15] <VoxelHead> Sneaker_of84: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#55 [00:15] <Sneaker_of84> but the weird thing is whenever i go to the desert is when it crashes
#56 [00:16] <Wug> Sneaker_of84: do you get a crash report
#57 [00:16] <Sneaker_of84> idk
#58 [00:16] <slowfi> the multiplayer servers that allow optifine are not ready for 1.3 yet either as far as I can tell
#59 [00:17] <Sneaker_of84> voxelhead
#60 [00:17] <xales> Sneaker_of84: VoxelHead is a bot.
#61 [00:17] <Sneaker_of84> oh
#62 [00:17] <Sneaker_of84> so is it really a good idea to delete all the files
#63 [00:18] <xales> Yes. Delete everything except "saves"
#64 [00:18] <Sneaker_of84> k
#65 [00:22] <slowfi> there's a voxel who does minecraft youtubes
#66 [00:22] <xales> .define voxel
#67 [00:22] <xales> :|
#68 [00:22] <xales> ?define voxel
#69 [00:22] <xales> useless.
#70 [00:22] <xales> ?define nil
#71 [00:23] <VoxelHead> Noun (1/1) (n) nothing, nil, nix, nada, null, aught, cipher, cypher, goose egg, naught, zero, zilch, zip, zippo (a quantity of no importance) "it looked like nothing I had ever seen before"; "reduced to nil all the work we had done"; "we racked up a pathetic goose egg"; "it was all for naught"; "I didn't hear zilch about it"
#72 [00:23] <xales> okay then
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#75 [00:37] <disgustipated> what needs to be in the server properties file for mobs to spawn?
#76 [00:37] <disgustipated> in 1.3.1
#77 [00:37] <supertuff447> can i show another players username in a video?
#78 [00:37] <disgustipated> they spawned prior to the update
#79 [00:37] <xales> supertuff447: Ask them. There's really no reason you *can't*.
#80 [00:38] <xales> disgustipated: Unless you have spawnmonsters=false, the default is to spawn mobs.
#81 [00:38] <disgustipated> hmm, i have that set to true
#82 [00:38] <supertuff447> thank you
#83 [00:38] <xales> disgustipated: Then mobs should spawn
#84 [00:38] <disgustipated> thats the problem, they are not
#85 [00:39] <xales> Are you sure that they aren't just spawning elsewhere?
#86 [00:39] <disgustipated> what about difficulty setting and hardcore
#87 [00:39] <xales> hardcore doesn't matter, difficulty should be higher than 1
#88 [00:39] <xales> or
#89 [00:39] <disgustipated> there is nothing spawning in the open world when its dark
#90 [00:39] <xales> greater than or equal to 1
#91 [00:39] <supertuff447> can you hide the chat box in a multiplayer server?
#92 [00:40] <xales> supertuff447: Yes, as of 1.3.1 there should be an option to not display chat
#93 [00:40] <supertuff447> how?
#94 [00:40] <xales> It's in the options somewhere. Look for it.
#95 [00:40] <supertuff447> okay
#96 [00:41] <disgustipated> what about gamemode, i have it set to 0 in the server.properties is that remnants of the previous version and needs changed?
#97 [00:41] <supertuff447> Is there actually any rules about display others usernames though? ;/
#98 [00:42] <xales> disgustipated: 0 is normal
#99 [00:42] <xales> supertuff447: No, that wouldn't make any sense.
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#101 [00:42] <supertuff447> okay
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#104 [00:49] <disgustipated> any other ideas why mobs wouldnt spawn?
#105 [00:50] <Wug> you're sure theyre not just spawning irregularly?
#106 [00:59] <disgustipated> if its irregularly, and this game was my wife i would think it was pregnant
#107 [00:59] <disgustipated> i found a single enderman wandering around in the daylight
#108 [00:59] <disgustipated> nothing in a constant shaded area
#109 [00:59] <xales> Have you tried just restarting the server?
#110 [00:59] <disgustipated> and nothing in my tunnels
#111 [01:00] <disgustipated> yeah
#112 [01:00] <xales> Hmm. Try redownloading it?
#113 [01:00] <disgustipated> well....lol
#114 [01:01] <disgustipated> i run on a linux server and someone in this channel gave me the 1.3.1 server.jar cause the one on the s3 amazon site was still the 1.2.5 version
#115 [01:01] <disgustipated> they said they had it from source
#116 [01:01] <disgustipated> they said they had it from source
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#118 [01:01] <xales> Do you remember who it was?
#119 [01:01] <disgustipated> lemme check the version posted on teh website again
#120 [01:02] <disgustipated> tyteen
#121 [01:04] <disgustipated> yeah, the jar on the main minecraft.net page is still the old one
#122 [01:04] <xales> huh, really?
#123 [01:05] <xales> disgustipated: I just downloaded the jar, it's 1.3.1
#124 [01:05] <disgustipated> yeah, thats what i was running into yesterday, i don think its propagated across all of amazon's server farms
#125 [01:06] <disgustipated> i open the jar in 7zip and all the class files modified dates are 3-30
#126 [01:06] <xales> hmm. try downloading it with another browser, maybe?
#127 [01:06] <disgustipated> i start it from the command line and the startup message reads 1.2.5
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#129 [01:11] <disgustipated> hmm just found a lone skeleton...seems like they respawn a whole lot less than before
#130 [01:14] <JohnEBH> ?? index
#131 [01:14] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
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#135 [01:33] <wuzzyexe> can anyone help me when i try to run minecraft it just freezes my computer for 10 seconds then nothing happens it doesnt even open up
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#137 [01:34] <wuzzyexe> can anyone help me when i try to run minecraft it just freezes my computer for 10 seconds then nothing happens it doesnt even open up
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#146 [02:10] <janderson> my minecraft keeps exiting out and saying i have run out of memory! Any reason why? Or what should I do?
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#153 [03:09] <kcaz98> >
#154 [03:09] <kcaz98> can i get some help
#155 [03:09] <JohnEBH> Sure?
#156 [03:10] <JohnEBH> What's the problem?
#157 [03:10] <kcaz98> what is mojangab's technical support hotline?
#158 [03:10] <JohnEBH> Erm, you mean like... A phone number?
#159 [03:10] <JohnEBH> None that I know of.
#160 [03:10] <JohnEBH> ??> Minecraft/Contact
#161 [03:10] <kcaz98> yes .....
#162 [03:10] <kcaz98> yes minecraft'
#163 [03:10] <JohnEBH> ??> Minecraft/Support
#164 [03:10] <kcaz98> i need some help
#165 [03:11] <kcaz98> but id rather talk to someone on the phone
#166 [03:11] <JohnEBH> Erm, didn't I just say there's no such thing?
#167 [03:11] <JohnEBH> ?? index
#168 [03:11] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
#169 [03:14] <kcaz98> thanks
#170 [03:15] <Elystus> JohnEBH: I think you were looking for this: http://help.mojang.com/
#171 [03:16] <JohnEBH> I was looking for their email address xD
#172 [03:16] <JohnEBH> We had it on Voxel, I remember that.
#173 [03:16] <Elystus> Don't link their email
#174 [03:16] <Elystus> Link the article that addresses their problem
#175 [03:17] <JohnEBH> The man wants to talk to a Mojang Staff Member, and there's a reason we HAD it on Vox.
#176 [03:18] <JohnEBH> Now if the index would load, I could use it right now.
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#178 [03:19] <kcaz98> hello
#179 [03:20] <Elystus> I know he does, but I am simply relaying what a Mojang member has told me.
#180 [03:21] <kcaz98> Can someone help me
#181 [03:21] <Elystus> kcaz98: What do you need?
#182 [03:21] <kcaz98> i neeed a number i can call and talk to tech support
#183 [03:22] <Elystus> JohnEBH: The link for their email is here: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#184 [03:23] <kcaz98> i need a phone number
#185 [03:23] <kcaz98> not a email
#186 [03:23] <JohnEBH> Elystus, not exactly an email address, but good enough.
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#188 [03:23] <Elystus> kcaz98: Mojang does not have phone support, they also do not have a technical support team. We are the closest you will get.
#189 [03:24] <kcaz98> well i need to talk to one of the developers then]
#190 [03:24] <Guest_> ok wellim just wondering how to get to C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\saves on vista
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#192 [03:25] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Try typing %appdata% in the explorer address bar.
#193 [03:25] <JohnEBH> Guest_, That should help you get there quickly
#194 [03:25] <Guest_> and that is, in fact, where i drag unzipped map folders to be able to play a map?
#195 [03:26] <JohnEBH> Yes.
#196 [03:26] <kcaz98> is there a number i can talk to notch oe jeb or anyone
#197 [03:26] <Guest_> ok
#198 [03:26] <JohnEBH> kcaz98, closest thing for that would be their respective Twitter accoutns
#199 [03:26] <Elystus> kcaz98: Why do you want to speak to them specifically? Also, twitter is the best you could do.
#200 [03:27] <kcaz98> ...I NEED A NUMBER this is urgent
#201 [03:27] <JohnEBH> You're wasting your time with this phone number thing.
#202 [03:27] <kcaz98> my account is getting hacked left and right and even team avo is hacking my fucking account
#203 [03:27] * AuBot kicked kcaz98 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: caz98 :Please keep it civil.)
#204 [03:28] <Guest_> what do i do after typing in %appdata% in the address bar?
#205 [03:28] <JohnEBH> ^ Great topic for the breakroom
#206 [03:28] <JohnEBH> Press Enter
#207 [03:28] <JohnEBH> Lol
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#209 [03:28] <Guest_> lol i know that :P
#210 [03:28] <JohnEBH> You should see .minecraft
#211 [03:28] <kcaz98> i have team avo and a bunch of others useing my account as a alt account.....
#212 [03:28] <JohnEBH> Then navigate to the saves folder :D
#213 [03:29] <kcaz98> changing my password
#214 [03:29] <Necrodoom> kcaz98: email mojang
#215 [03:29] <Necrodoom> kcaz98: wait 2 months
#216 [03:29] <Elystus> kcaz98: There is no number...
#217 [03:29] <JohnEBH> kcaz98, Have you tried changing the password for your all accounts? It's quite common for people to have the same password for everything.
#218 [03:29] <kcaz98> 2 freaking months
#219 [03:30] <Elystus> kcaz98: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329524-change-or-forgot-password
#220 [03:30] <kcaz98> i have a different password
#221 [03:30] <kcaz98> and it keeps getting changed
#222 [03:30] <Elystus> Change your email's password then change the sire one.
#223 [03:30] <Elystus> site*
#224 [03:30] <kcaz98> i even changed it to something like this
#225 [03:30] <JohnEBH> kcaz98, and that's because you're email address probably has the same password and they have access to it =P
#226 [03:30] <kcaz98> 832735634734838329282
#227 [03:31] <kcaz98> its not the same
#228 [03:31] <Guest_> ok im not all that great with computers... i'll sound like an idiot but to actually be able to play will be worth it. im supposed to type %appdata% into the address bar in explorer... right?
#229 [03:31] <kcaz98> it is different every month
#230 [03:31] <Elystus> kcaz98: You probably have malware on your computer
#231 [03:31] <kcaz98> i have nothing i have college support anti-virus thing
#232 [03:31] <JohnEBH> Guest_, I think typing that into search in the Start menu will work as well.
#233 [03:31] <kcaz98> they are hacking my account every day!
#234 [03:31] <Elystus> kcaz98: Anti-virus does not stop all malware
#235 [03:32] <JohnEBH> Guest_, I know it works in Windows 7, but Vista... Not so sure.
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#237 [03:32] <Elystus> kcaz98: Download this, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CH8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.malwarebytes.org%2F&ei=c34bUKm0H6fbiwLA7oDQAQ&usg=AFQjCNF1rUbMKiFgRseh32Zb1S3MP3pO3w&sig2=DACO3gtG7QWA8tqniacwnA
#238 [03:32] <Elystus> It is a free anti-malware program.
#239 [03:33] <kcaz98> my college covers that
#240 [03:33] <kcaz98> ......
#241 [03:33] <Elystus> You said they just give you an anti-virus program, correct?
#242 [03:33] <kcaz98> no there is a package
#243 [03:34] <kcaz98> malware trojan win32 virus and loads more
#244 [03:34] <Elystus> Can you explain to me what antivirus and antimalware programs you have?
#245 [03:34] <Guest_> johnEBH_, go to a website? im not sure what i should be looking for because it takes me to google for sites
#246 [03:34] <Elystus> Ohhh
#247 [03:34] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Windows explorer is basically the thing when you go to your Documents or Downloads folder
#248 [03:34] <JohnEBH> Not internet explorer.
#249 [03:35] <Guest_> ok now its making a lil more sense XD
#250 [03:35] <JohnEBH> Good to here ^^"
#251 [03:35] <JohnEBH> Hear*
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#253 [03:36] <kcaz98> malware trojan win32 virus and loads more?
#254 [03:36] <Guest_> go into localLow?
#255 [03:36] <kcaz98> anyhelp
#256 [03:37] <kcaz98> why cant there be a F****** hotline
#257 [03:37] <Grey> Because.
#258 [03:37] <JohnEBH> kcaz98, Because there's no technical support division for Mojang
#259 [03:37] <kcaz98> Well make one
#260 [03:37] <Elystus> kcaz98: Do you mean that you have those viruses? Or that your program protects against those?
#261 [03:37] <JohnEBH> kcaz98, We're not Mojang
#262 [03:37] <Guest_> johnEBH, do i go into localLow?
#263 [03:37] <kcaz98> becouse this dumb chat dosent seem to be helping loads of people
#264 [03:38] <Guest_> its helping me
#265 [03:38] <Elystus> kcaz98: We do when people cooperate with us.
#266 [03:38] <kcaz98> have u solved your problem yet?
#267 [03:38] <Guest_> me?
#268 [03:38] <JohnEBH> Guest_, all right... Go Start > My Documents > See the bar up top? Click it and type in %appdata% > Press Enter
#269 [03:38] <kcaz98> yes u
#270 [03:38] <Elystus> kcaz98: We can't instantly solve problems, it takes time to find the root of a problem and solve it.
#271 [03:38] <Guest_> not yet but i know s*** all about this lol
#272 [03:38] <Elystus> kcaz98: Now leave him alone so he can get the support he needs.
#273 [03:38] <kcaz98> i have been and everything u have told me has not Fing helped
#274 [03:39] <kcaz98> well when will i get the support i need
#275 [03:39] <Elystus> kcaz98: When you actually start listening.
#276 [03:39] <Elystus> kcaz98: Now you said something about trojans, malware, etc. Do you mean that you have those viruses? Or that your program protects against those?
#277 [03:40] <kcaz98> it protects aginst them
#278 [03:40] <JohnEBH> May I suggest Teamviewer for the computer illiterate?
#279 [03:40] <Guest_> ok then .minecraft then saves then?
#280 [03:40] <kcaz98> all of them
#281 [03:40] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Precisely
#282 [03:40] <Guest_> then MINE?
#283 [03:40] <Elystus> kcaz98: That may be so, but sometimes it is best to double up. A program might miss a virus or two.
#284 [03:40] <JohnEBH> Guest_, I'm assuming that's your own single player world name
#285 [03:40] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Saves is the folder you want to place any maps you've download off the net
#286 [03:41] <Guest_> ah ok and i drag what into it?
#287 [03:41] <kcaz98> the map u downloaded
#288 [03:41] <kcaz98> XD
#289 [03:41] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Well it depends what you've downloaded... Is it a zip file with a folder inside?
#290 [03:41] <Elystus> kcaz98: The only way they could have gotten your information is if you gave it to them, if you were hit with the session exploit, or if they got some malware on your computer. The last one is the most plausable.
#291 [03:41] <JohnEBH> Guest_, If it is, the chances are the folder in there is the map/world you want to place in the save folder.
#292 [03:42] <kcaz98> ughh i gave it to noone except mojang
#293 [03:42] <Elystus> kcaz98: read it again, I did not accuse you of doing that.
#294 [03:42] <kcaz98> ik ik
#295 [03:42] <Guest_> ok so i saved it into a diff place so just drag it into the save folder and unzip it?
#296 [03:43] <kcaz98> thaanks for trying to help me
#297 [03:43] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Dragging the file inside the zip file to the Save folder unzips it automagically
#298 [03:43] <kcaz98> i guess i might as well just pay for a new one from my dang scholarship job making me about 3 dollars a hour ..-_-
#299 [03:44] <Guest_> what about just dragging the zipped file? will that work?
#300 [03:44] <Elystus> kcaz98: If your problem turns out to be rather unique, I can get it fixed faster.
#301 [03:44] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Nope, because Minecraft doesn't recognize zip files as a World file.
#302 [03:44] <Elystus> I mean by Mojang.
#303 [03:44] <Elystus> if it is account related.
#304 [03:44] <Guest_> ah ok
#305 [03:44] <kcaz98> it is
#306 [03:45] <JohnEBH> Guest_, The reason their in zip files is because we can't send folders over the internet. They have to be packaged.
#307 [03:45] <JohnEBH> They're*
#308 [03:45] <kcaz98> i just need some tips i guess
#309 [03:45] <JohnEBH> God... 3:45am doesn't help me
#310 [03:45] <Elystus> kcaz98: I do not know enough to see if it is unqiue or not.
#311 [03:45] <Guest_> ok so take the folder out and drag it to the save folder?
#312 [03:45] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Pretty much.
#313 [03:45] <Elystus> kcaz98: Walk me through everything you have tried so far.
#314 [03:46] <kcaz98> a new password about 20 times
#315 [03:46] <JohnEBH> kcaz98, Haven't tried a virus scan?
#316 [03:46] <kcaz98> scanning my pc with softwars about 10000000 times
#317 [03:46] <JohnEBH> Ok.
#318 [03:46] <Elystus> kcaz98: I still have yet to get the exact names of the programs used to scan them.
#319 [03:46] <kcaz98> and even asked a pc tech at my school for some help
#320 [03:47] <kcaz98> its mackafee and norton and bullguard and some other weird ones
#321 [03:47] <Guest_> now it will be there when i go on?
#322 [03:47] <kcaz98> my Ra does them for me
#323 [03:47] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Should be
#324 [03:47] <Elystus> kcaz98: Those are not the greatest of antivirus programs :/
#325 [03:47] <JohnEBH> Guest_, If they aren't... I could make a little slide show in like 15 minutes xD
#326 [03:48] <Elystus> I still suggest trying malwarebytes.
#327 [03:48] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Just send me map you downloaded. ;D
#328 [03:48] <kcaz98> have it i think
#329 [03:48] <Guest_> ok and im sorry im still "guest". any name i tried to change it to was erroneous and il check quickly and ok lol
#330 [03:48] <kcaz98> ill go ask my Ra if u want
#331 [03:48] <Elystus> kcaz98: Sounds good :)
#332 [03:48] <kcaz98> k brb
#333 [03:49] <JohnEBH> Guest_, It's fine, irc names don't matter unless you plan on staying for a while.
#334 [03:49] <Guest_> http://www.fileswap.com/dl/vTp2u8XvG/Super_Hostile_14_-_Waking_Up_v3.6.3.zip.html
#335 [03:49] <kcaz98> if he is awake >.<
#336 [03:49] <Guest_> thats where i downloaded it
#337 [03:49] <Guest_> an dok
#338 [03:49] <JohnEBH> Alright, I guess I'll get to making that slideshow xD
#339 [03:49] <Grey> How's it going there
#340 [03:50] <kcaz98> He is awake and said yes we do have that
#341 [03:50] <Grey> Have you done a scan with it?
#342 [03:50] <kcaz98> My pc has been scanned just yesterday this started about 3 days ago
#343 [03:51] <Grey> What's the issue again?
#344 [03:51] <Elystus> Grey: Avo hacked his account and he is unable to get it back.
#345 [03:52] <kcaz98> no i got it back
#346 [03:52] <kcaz98> but it keeps getting changed
#347 [03:52] <Elystus> sorry, that is what I meant.
#348 [03:52] <kcaz98> again and again and again
#349 [03:52] <Guest_> i... may have just wasted all that time... i apparently have "bad video card drivers" FUUU
#350 [03:52] <Elystus> kcaz98: IS the account migrated?
#351 [03:52] <Grey> Ah.
#352 [03:52] <kcaz98> What do u mean by Migrated
#353 [03:53] <Guest_> johnEBH, i... may have just wasted all that time... i apparently have "bad video card drivers" FUUU
#354 [03:53] <Elystus> kcaz98: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/428478-minecraft-account-types
#355 [03:54] <kcaz98> ????
#356 [03:54] <Grey> Well then... There's really nothing we can do here. If you saved your reciept from when you purchased minecraft, you can file a support ticket to get the help you need in recovering the account.
#357 [03:55] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Ah o.o
#358 [03:55] <kcaz98> i have done all of that and now i have to spend another fing 30$ of my 96 dollars from my job
#359 [03:55] <JohnEBH> ??> Guest_ win/dxdiag
#360 [03:55] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#361 [03:55] <Elystus> Grey: I have an idea, but it relies on him having a migrated account.
#362 [03:55] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#363 [03:55] <JohnEBH> Guest_, I can help you fix that too =P
#364 [03:55] <Grey> Ah, true
#365 [03:56] <Guest_> johnEBH, i have been able to play the free version though :/ and ok where do i do that?
#366 [03:56] <Elystus> kcaz98: Do you use your email to log in?
#367 [03:56] <kcaz98> Nope
#368 [03:56] <JohnEBH> ??>> Guest_ win/dxdiag
#369 [03:56] <Elystus> Then its not migrated :/
#370 [03:56] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Follow the instructions PM'ed to you
#371 [03:57] <Guest_> but where?
#372 [03:57] <Guest_> oh ok
#373 [03:57] <Elystus> kcaz98: I have an idea. Are you in control of the account right now?
#374 [03:58] <Guest_> Voxe1Head, the zipped file i saved or the folder inside of it?
#375 [03:59] <kcaz98> let me check
#376 [03:59] <JohnEBH> Guest_, I will now suggest to you that we use Teamviewer.
#377 [03:59] <JohnEBH> ??> Guest_ Teamviewer
#378 [04:00] <kcaz98> Nope Omfg This so sooooo Fuking Dumb
#379 [04:00] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (teamviewer) Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#380 [04:00] <VoxelHead> Guest_: (teamviewer) Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#381 [04:00] <Guest_> i can trust you, yes?
#382 [04:00] <kcaz98> guest
#383 [04:00] <Guest_> yes?
#384 [04:00] <Elystus> kcaz98: If you can gain control for about 10 minutes, we might be able to fix it.
#385 [04:00] <kcaz98> i can try and help u in about 5 min
#386 [04:00] <Elystus> kcaz98: We will have to be fast though.
#387 [04:01] <kcaz98> do you see your windows key on your keyboard
#388 [04:01] <Guest_> well, i have these two
#389 [04:01] <Guest_> and you need help atm too
#390 [04:01] <JohnEBH> Guest_, You'll be able to see what I do, so if I do anything you don't like you can say so
#391 [04:01] <Guest_> ok
#392 [04:01] <Elystus> you can also kick him off at anytime.
#393 [04:01] <kcaz98> Ok well tv is not neccasary
#394 [04:02] <JohnEBH> kcaz98, I know it's not, but it's more convenient and probably efficient at this point.
#395 [04:02] <Elystus> kcaz98: lets just focus on fixing your problem first :P
#396 [04:02] <Guest_> download it?
#397 [04:02] <Elystus> kcaz98, Okay, first start by changing the password.
#398 [04:02] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Download it, and run it. No need to install
#399 [04:02] <Guest_> ok
#400 [04:02] <kcaz98> k
#401 [04:02] <Elystus> then go here: https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#402 [04:02] <Elystus> migrate the account
#403 [04:02] <JohnEBH> Guest_, Then pm the ID and Pass
#404 [04:02] <kcaz98> changed to 989876578
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#406 [04:03] <Elystus> kcaz98: Migrate it now.
#407 [04:03] <kcaz98> k
#408 [04:03] <kcaz98> done
#409 [04:03] <Elystus> log in on account.mojang.com
#410 [04:04] <kcaz98> omfg and it is already hacked again
#411 [04:04] <Elystus> Damn, they are fast
#412 [04:04] <kcaz98> like i said its team fing avo
#413 [04:04] <Grey> Hacked how?
#414 [04:04] <Elystus> kcaz98: are you able to restart your comp in safe mode + network. That will eliminate the possbility of malware.
#415 [04:04] <JohnEBH> Maybe have all the tabs you need open?
#416 [04:05] <kcaz98> becouse every time i log into a server i get banned for being avo or sumthing
#417 [04:05] <kcaz98> my Ra has already tried that
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#419 [04:05] <Grey> Ah...
#420 [04:05] <Guest_> JohnEBH, 833 841 180
#421 [04:06] <Elystus> kcaz98: did you at least get the acoount migrated?
#422 [04:06] <JohnEBH> GUEST
#423 [04:06] <JohnEBH> Guest_, NOT HERE.
#424 [04:06] <kcaz98> yes then hacked once again
#425 [04:06] <Elystus> account*
#426 [04:06] <Elystus> kcaz98: I think there may be malware.
#427 [04:06] <Elystus> Can you get on another computer?
#428 [04:06] <Guest_> i dont see you in the side bar :/
#429 [04:06] <kcaz98> im getting tired of this give me a number i can call
#430 [04:06] <JohnEBH> Guest_, I should be near the top
#431 [04:07] <Elystus> kcaz98: there is none.
#432 [04:07] <JohnEBH> kcaz98, The number you want doesn't exist
#433 [04:07] <kcaz98> may i ask how old are you?
#434 [04:07] <Elystus> kcaz98: Can you get ahold of another computer, a phone with a data plan or something?
#435 [04:08] <kcaz98> Nope i can try my friends but he will flip after he finds out i touched his alienware'
#436 [04:08] <Elystus> Alienware >_>
#437 [04:08] <kcaz98> may i ask how old are you?
#438 [04:08] <Elystus> 17
#439 [04:08] <kcaz98> ahh
#440 [04:08] <kcaz98> u in college?
#441 [04:09] <Elystus> Will be next year.
#442 [04:09] <kcaz98> ah
#443 [04:09] <kcaz98> What college's are u looking at?
#444 [04:09] <kcaz98> im at SIUE
#445 [04:09] <Elystus> Cal Poly San Luis Obispo
#446 [04:09] <Elystus> UCLA
#447 [04:09] <Elystus> SDSU
#448 [04:10] <Elystus> Texas Tech
#449 [04:10] <Elystus> others.
#450 [04:10] <kcaz98> Ahh Never heard of them >.<
#451 [04:10] <Elystus> American colleges.
#452 [04:10] <kcaz98> i am amarican]'
#453 [04:10] <Elystus> And you Havn't heard of those?!
#454 [04:10] <kcaz98> bad spelling >.<
#455 [04:11] <kcaz98> I might have
#456 [04:11] <kcaz98> idk
#457 [04:11] <kcaz98> i just looked at one and went to it i dont like choices
#458 [04:11] <Elystus> kcaz98: If you come on tomorrow, I might be able to convince Marc to take a look at your account. Since it is somewhat unqiue.
#459 [04:12] <kcaz98> Somewhat?
#460 [04:12] <kcaz98> and who is marc
#461 [04:12] <Elystus> I have seen weirder.
#462 [04:12] <Elystus> Marc is head of customer support at Mojang.
#463 [04:12] <kcaz98> may i have his number?
#464 [04:13] <Elystus> No... I don't even have his private number...
#465 [04:13] <Elystus> I only have him on skype.
#466 [04:13] <kcaz98> ughh
#467 [04:13] <kcaz98> So there is customer support but i dont get a number for it i see
#468 [04:13] <Elystus> There is no customer support number >_>
#469 [04:14] <Elystus> There is an email, but no number.
#470 [04:14] <kcaz98> then have a Customer support
#471 [04:14] <Elystus> They do have a customer support.
#472 [04:14] <kcaz98> then why*
#473 [04:14] <Elystus> So they can answer through email.
#474 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> kcaz98: I've only just got back, but if you're having trouble with your account being hacked, there is a solution.
#475 [04:15] * Elystus steps aside
#475 [04:15] <kcaz98> why been informed of this earlier?
#476 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> The assistance that Mojang provides in relation to that is up at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#477 [04:15] <DiskDaemon> I was away - sorry.
#478 [04:15] <kcaz98> ITs fine im done with this
#479 [04:16] <kcaz98> Goodbye sweet world
#480 [04:16] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: We already did that.
#481 [04:16] <Elystus> Well he really just didn't want to follow directions...
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#483 [04:16] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, so solutions from here on out are thin on the ground.
#484 [04:17] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: The solution was basically point at Marc and Run.
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#486 [04:17] <Elystus> Though I still think it could have been Malware.
#487 [04:17] <DiskDaemon> Poor man, he gets all the problems :)
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#489 [04:18] <grow_love> hello
#490 [04:18] <Elystus> Hiya! :D
#491 [04:18] <Oneriwien> what are some uses for tnt other than just for fun?
#492 [04:18] <Oneriwien> like serious uses?
#493 [04:18] <grow_love> how's it going?
#494 [04:18] <Elystus> Oneriwien: mining.
#495 [04:18] <Elystus> DiskDaemon: I finally got around to finishing the java application
#496 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> serious uses? For easily clearing out large rooms. Drill holes every 4 blocks, and one tnt should then set off the next
#497 [04:25] <DiskDaemon> Elystus: Good one, so it's ready for testing?
#498 [04:25] <Elystus> Just need to figure how to compile it as a 64-bit program .-.
#499 [04:25] <Elystus> You can parse the code while I figure it out.
#500 [04:25] <Elystus> out*
#501 [04:26] <Elystus> wait, I didn't spell that wrong. >_>
#502 [04:26] <Arle> lol
#503 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> okay, where's the source code for parsing?
#504 [04:26] <Elystus> one moment
#505 [04:28] <Elystus> It looked ugly on pastebin, so I just put it in notepad
#506 [04:28] <Elystus> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/91143948/sourcecode.txt
#507 [04:29] <Elystus> Lol, I made two comments. Coulda sworn I made more.
#508 [04:31] <Calinou> <Elystus> Oneriwien: mining.
#509 [04:31] <Calinou> who the F uses it for mining
#510 [04:31] <Elystus> >_>
#511 [04:31] <Calinou> <Elystus> Just need to figure how to compile it as a 64-bit program .-.
#512 [04:31] <Calinou> it's java, so it's run as 64 bit if using a 64 bit java, no?
#513 [04:31] <Elystus> :/ no
#514 [04:31] <Elystus> Its C++
#515 [04:31] <Calinou> ERM
#516 [04:31] <Calinou> ah okay
#517 [04:32] <Calinou> what compiler? :p
#518 [04:32] <Elystus> Trying to find a good one. I have used the visual basic one up until now.
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#520 [04:32] <Calinou> -_-
#521 [04:32] <Elystus> shh you.
#522 [04:32] <Calinou> are you trying to code on windows? have fun
#523 [04:33] <Elystus> yes I am and it was hell getting it to work correctly
#524 [04:35] <Arle> hey! I like VB!
#525 [04:36] <Elystus> Its alright...
#526 [04:36] * Elystus likes PHP better
#526 [04:36] * Arle likes PHP too.
#526 [04:36] <Elystus> they are completely diffrent
#527 [04:36] <Arle> yeah
#528 [04:36] <Elystus> but at least I don't wanna pull my hair out with PHP
#529 [04:36] <Arle> like saying Wii is better than DS.
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#531 [04:37] <Calinou> none of them are good :p
#532 [04:37] <Calinou> so how can one be better than the other?
#533 [04:37] <Arle> Yes they are.
#534 [04:37] <Elystus> Pc gaming!
#535 [04:37] <Arle> PC gaming is good, but that doesn't make everything else bad.
#536 [04:37] <Noraffern> hey sorry to interrupt, but could i get some info on a bug i've had since 1.2.2?
#537 [04:37] <Elystus> Sure :)
#538 [04:38] <Noraffern> i have a huge platform built over a body of water
#539 [04:38] <Noraffern> and the shadows underneath are completely messed up
#540 [04:38] <Noraffern> both on the underside of the platform and the water itself
#541 [04:39] <Noraffern> any idea why?
#542 [04:39] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that happens I have heard the devs waling about wanting to rewrite the lighting engine completely from scratch
#543 [04:40] <DiskDaemon> Now that they hav both single player and multiplayer both combined, that will make such projects easier to handle
#544 [04:40] <Noraffern> thats great! my world isnt corrupt!
#545 [04:40] <Noraffern> thank you
#546 [04:40] <Arle> :) lol
#547 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> See this: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features
#548 [04:41] <DiskDaemon> The 1.4 version has the lighting as a its only planned bug fix :)
#549 [04:42] <JohnEBH> Modding API? :D
#550 [04:43] <Elystus> I need to go to bed :/ night
#551 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> Yes, will be called Plugins.
#552 [04:43] <DiskDaemon> o/
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#562 [05:59] <mib_mj0msd> hello @ll, i tried to play the minecraft demo but i got this message (from Terminal) http://pastebin.com/vef27eZC
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#566 [06:40] <saku_chan> hello
#567 [06:40] <Arle> Hello, saku_chan
#568 [06:42] <saku_chan> Is there any possibility to contact Mojang Support? I need to change my mail adress, because I deleted the old one
#569 [06:42] <Grim_Reaper> http://help.mojang.com
#570 [06:42] <saku_chan> and I can't tranfer my MC Account to Mojang, because I need a verification of the old (deleted) one
#571 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> You can contact them, I'll get the article for you about that
#572 [06:48] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
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#575 [06:49] <Chris> sup brendan
#576 [06:49] <SonicScrew543> Oh hey Chris
#577 [06:49] <Chris> what'd you break?
#578 [06:49] <SonicScrew543> Its not me, its Mojang :(
#579 [06:49] <saku_chan> thank you, I also found this article. But I don't think that I will find my ID, because I bought MC last year ^^
#580 [06:49] <Chris> then the problem is likely already well known :P
#581 [06:50] <SonicScrew543> Looking for possible fixes for pistons budding when one block diagonal to power?
#582 [06:51] <Chris> I reckon your best bet is to wait for Mojang to release an update
#583 [06:51] <Chris> buuuut I probably have no idea compared to anyone who actually helps in the channel
#584 [06:51] <SonicScrew543> Well I doubt that will ever happen, since pistons are now one tick slower or something, almost my whole map of redstone from 1.7, is broken
#585 [06:53] <DiskDaemon> SonicScrew543: That's a known piston mechanism, that I doubt will be fixed
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#587 [06:55] <DiskDaemon> ??> SonicScrew543 dont/pm
#588 [06:55] <VoxelHead> SonicScrew543: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#589 [06:56] <SonicScrew543> Sorry XD
#590 [06:57] <SonicScrew543> I've been here a few times, and I seem to be the only ones having issues with these types of redstone bugs
#591 [06:58] <DiskDaemon> Diagonal power to pistons is a well known effect with them. It's listed as a bug on the pistons page, but when that will be fixed is not known as of yet
#592 [06:58] <Chris> tut tut brendan
#593 [07:00] <SonicScrew543> Mind showing me where that bug is listed on the wiki page? If its not too much trouble
#594 [07:02] <DiskDaemon> Sure. Bullet number 3. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Piston#Bugs
#595 [07:04] <SonicScrew543> It doesn't quite fit my problem, but I think they are related, it seems to act the same way redstone lamps do, powering the blocks next to it, and thats where my BUD comes from
#596 [07:10] <DiskDaemon> What further details do you have to share about your problem, to help us learn more about the situation?
#597 [07:12] <SonicScrew543> I built this in 1.2.5, and it worked fine, its part of a double piston extender
#598 [07:13] <SonicScrew543> The first piston pushes the second piston into redstone power from above using wire through the blocks
#599 [07:14] <SonicScrew543> now, the second piston powers first due to the blocks with the wire on them, even though they are 2 blocks apart
#600 [07:14] <SonicScrew543> this creates a BUD switch, and it powers other pistons touching it for some reason
#601 [07:14] <SonicScrew543> the same way redstone lamps power others around it
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#606 [07:16] <DiskDaemon> So is that a new bug for 1.3, since the 1.2.5 version?
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#608 [07:17] <DiskDaemon> If so, you should add some information about that to http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/Version_1.3.1
#609 [07:17] <SonicScrew543> I think so, but I believe the full room it bugged somehow, I have other devices using the same sort of wiring, and they work just fine'
#610 [07:17] <FLHerne> When I try to host a LAN server, it tries to host it on the loopback . How do I fix that?
#611 [07:17] <FLHerne> Also, hi :-)
#612 [07:18] <SonicScrew543> Another question, how many IRCs are you in Chris?
#613 [07:19] <DiskDaemon> Don't you want the LAN server to be on the same computer that the game is running on?
#614 [07:20] <Chris> SonicScrew543, over 100 channels over 5 networks
#615 [07:21] <FLHerne> DiskDaemon: I'd rather it was accessible from other computers :P
#616 [07:21] <DiskDaemon> It is accessible from other computers. Those other computers on the LAN will automatically detect your one
#617 [07:23] <FLHerne> DiskDaemon: No, they don't :-(
#618 [07:23] <disgustipated> FLHerne you might be able to change your NIC binding order, if not you could probably try specifying yteh ip to bind on in the server.properties file
#619 [07:23] <FLHerne> Because it's trying to host it on the loopback port, the server isn't accessible from any external one
#620 [07:23] * FLHerne looks up server.properties
#620 [07:24] <DiskDaemon> So the "scanning for LAN worlds" isn't achieving anything?
#621 [07:24] <SonicScrew543> I doubt this is possible, but I will ask it anyway, could my client alone be bugged? I had a bug from 1.7 to 1.2.5, where if a redstone torch burned out, it would stay out in that area, and it only happened on my computer
#622 [07:25] <FLHerne> DiskDaemon: Nope
#623 [07:25] <FLHerne> If I run a LAN server and a client together, they can connect to each other
#624 [07:25] <FLHerne> But only on the same computer
#625 [07:27] <FLHerne> Perhaps I should try a dedicated server?
#626 [07:27] <Toad> perhaps
#627 [07:27] <Toad> have you tried using the ip to connect
#628 [07:28] <Toad> the "scanning for lan servers" thing doesn't always find them
#629 [07:28] <DiskDaemon> I've just experimented, and found that Magic Launcher results in the lan being hosted on the 169.xxx.xxx.xxx range, which is a fun problem to have
#630 [07:28] <FLHerne> Toad: I have, yes
#631 [07:28] <FLHerne> Doesn't work though :-(
#632 [07:29] <Toad> lots of people seem to be having issues with lan servers
#633 [07:29] <FLHerne> DiskDaemon: Mine ends up on 127.0.0.1, which is hardly useful...
#634 [07:30] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that is your local loopback. That doesn't mean though that it's restricted to allowing incoming connections only from that one address though
#635 [07:31] <Toad> so you tried your internal ip on the client right
#636 [07:31] <Toad> not 127.0.0.1
#637 [07:32] <FLHerne> Toad: Of course :P
#638 [07:32] <FLHerne> DiskDaemon: In that case, I should look up minecraft output more :P
#639 [07:33] <DiskDaemon> I've found that I have to also have to add on the random port number that was used when opening up for the LAN, too.
#640 [07:33] <Toad> Mine goes on my internal
#641 [07:33] <FLHerne> DiskDaemon: I've done that, too :P
#642 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> Further issues from there are almost exclusively caused by the firewall of the machine that has the server. That can be easily fixed by removing the incoming rules relating to java, then restarting Minecraft. When you open to LAN again, you will be prompted to add new rules to the firewall.
#643 [07:34] <DiskDaemon> And that? ^
#644 [07:35] <FLHerne> that? ^: tacking random port number onto my IP address
#645 [07:35] <FLHerne> I'm using ufw for the firefwall, but I turned it off while experimenting...
#646 [07:37] <FLHerne> I was under the impression that if the server was listening on the loopback port, it would miss connection attempts from the real interfaces. Is that incorrect?
#647 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> That may indeed be the case. What is being done differently from normal that would result in it usig the local loopback anyway?
#648 [07:38] <DiskDaemon> *using
#649 [07:40] <Toad> have you tried just restarting your computer....
#650 [07:42] <DiskDaemon> THe old turn it off and on again trick. But that's too simple :)
#651 [07:42] <SonicScrew543> Tech support XD
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#653 [07:49] <FLHerne> Toad: No, I try not to :P
#654 [07:51] <FLHerne> DiskDaemon: I don't think I'm doing anything very different from normal. I've got two real network interfaces, with the default being to use DHCP on eth0
#655 [07:52] <FLHerne> Both computers are on the same subnet, so port forwarding isn't a problem
#656 [07:53] <Rikairchy> uh
#657 [07:53] <DiskDaemon> It seems to be easily confused. When using Magic Launcher for example, the LAN server is started on 169.254.250.128:nnnn
#658 [07:53] <Rikairchy> port forwarding is IP-specific
#659 [07:53] <Rikairchy> FLHerne, what are you trying to do?
#660 [07:53] <FLHerne> Rikairchy: But both client and server are on the same subnet, so no port forwarding needed at all :P
#661 [07:54] <Rikairchy> you mean same network
#662 [07:54] <Rikairchy> and you cannot host a LAN server
#663 [07:54] <Rikairchy> right?
#664 [07:54] <FLHerne> Aye(ish)
#665 [07:54] <FLHerne> My home network has multiple subnets though :P
#666 [07:54] <Rikairchy> what distro?
#667 [07:55] <FLHerne> Mint 13 (KDE) - basically Ubuntu 12.04 in most respects
#668 [07:55] <Rikairchy> okay
#669 [07:55] <Rikairchy> pastebin an ifconfig for me
#670 [07:55] <Rikairchy> from both machines
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#673 [07:58] <FLHerne> Oh hang on, that looks a bit weird...
#674 [07:58] * FLHerne fiddles
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#675 [08:06] <FLHerne> http://pastebin.com/3iVNhGiZ
#676 [08:06] <FLHerne> eth0 got renamed for some reason
#677 [08:06] <FLHerne> http://pastebin.com/iN96UFDa is the other one
#678 [08:08] <Rikairchy> can you ping between them?
#679 [08:08] <FLHerne> Yep
#680 [08:08] <Rikairchy> have you entered an IP in the server.properties file?
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#682 [08:10] <FLHerne> Do the LAN servers (built into the client jar) have one? I still haven't got the hang of 1.3.1 :P
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#684 [08:13] <nick_> hi
#685 [08:13] <SinZ> FLHerne: yes, your internal ip
#686 [08:13] <nick_> im not giving u that
#687 [08:13] <SinZ> nick_: ohai
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#690 [08:15] <FLHerne> SinZ: I have no server.properties file to put it in, though :P
#691 [08:15] <Rikairchy> are you hosting it as a LAN world on 1.3.1?
#692 [08:15] <SinZ> FLHerne: if you need to change some settings, dont use the Open to LAN function.
#693 [08:16] <FLHerne> Rikairchy: Trying to, failing :P
#694 [08:16] <Rikairchy> i thought it was a legit server
#695 [08:16] <Rikairchy> not an open-LAN world.
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#697 [08:16] <SinZ> it a LAN server
#698 [08:16] <SinZ> locked to lan
#699 [08:16] * FLHerne needs to be more clear then, sorry
#699 [08:16] <Rikairchy> I can't help you then
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#701 [08:17] <FLHerne> Rikairchy: Ah well. Sorry to waste your attention then :-(
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#704 [08:22] <FLHerne> Anyone else tried to get that feature of 1.3.1 to work, then?
#705 [08:23] <DiskDaemon> It seems to work between Windows 8 (pre-release) and Windows 7 here, but I need to watch the IP address closely so that I can type in the address with the port number. The "searching for LAN" feature doesn't seem to yet be effective
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#707 [08:30] <FLHerne> Thanks. I'll keep on trying then :-)
#708 [08:35] <Rikairchy> the one you're searching from
#709 [08:36] <Rikairchy> is that the one that has the two NICs?
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#712 [08:48] <FLHerne> I think they both do: The searching one has wireless and wired (eth0 and wlan0), the host has 2x wired (rename5 and eth32)
#713 [08:48] <FLHerne> Searching one is only connected by wireless atm, though
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#716 [08:54] <Oldman> Good Morning. I had mentioned yesterday that I have had a problem with large sections of rail track poofing... water is NOT touching my track, but am curious. If my rail is on a piece of earth that separates it from a lake below, will that cause the problem?
#717 [08:58] <lutzee> Water physics are odd, best thing to do is go in creative and test it :)
#718 [08:58] <Oldman> Lutzee: I am playing a single player game. Is there a way to work on that world in creative mode?
#719 [08:59] <lutzee> Er what version of minecraft are your using?
#720 [08:59] <Necrodoom> launch as LAN and enable cheats, if 1.3.1
#721 [08:59] <Oldman> I am on the latest version. Hmm not tried that, but will thanks all
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#725 [09:26] <Necrodoom> is anyone else has problems extracting minecraft.jar
#726 [09:28] <DiskDaemon> on a mac?
#727 [09:28] <lutzee> why would one extract the minecraft jar anyway? unless on mac
#728 [09:29] <DiskDaemon> For modding purposes, I presume
#729 [09:29] <lutzee> Meh just open the archive, no need to extract
#730 [09:29] <Necrodoom> it seems its stopping midway
#731 [09:29] <Necrodoom> on windows
#732 [09:30] <Necrodoom> no java app up
#733 [09:30] <Necrodoom> redownloaded the jar, renamed to zip, moved to another folder
#734 [09:30] <Necrodoom> still missing 68 class files, after manually extracting
#735 [09:30] <lutzee> O.o just extract the jar as it is? winrar will extract it as a .jar anyway
#736 [09:31] <DiskDaemon> Is this when the launcher is downloading files?
#737 [09:32] <Necrodoom> no, i did a fresh downloaded
#738 [09:32] <Necrodoom> and closed the launcher
#739 [09:32] <Necrodoom> using built in windows 7 winzip
#740 [09:33] <lutzee> probably why.. use &zip or winrar
#741 [09:33] <lutzee> 7zip*
#742 [09:33] <Necrodoom> first time i have this problem, 1.2.5 works fine
#743 [09:34] <lutzee> Well i just extracted my 1.3 jar with winrar worked perfectly
#744 [09:34] <Necrodoom> il try redownload again
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#754 [10:16] <jomos> Yo there!
#755 [10:16] <lutzee> hey
#756 [10:17] <jomos> I'm having troubles due to that mine minecraft can't connect to minecraft.net. What is the problem? Have'nt been able to log in for two weeks.
#757 [10:17] <jomos> Anyone have insight in this?
#758 [10:18] <lutzee> jomos, what version of java are you using?
#759 [10:20] <jomos> I'm using Java RE 7
#760 [10:20] <jomos> x64
#761 [10:22] <lutzee> er i guess the latest version
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#763 [10:22] <lutzee> is the top part of the launcher grey with a line of text at the top?
#764 [10:24] <jomos> It got the standard look, Ergo my windows theme colour. Text "Minecraft Launcher".
#765 [10:25] <lutzee> I mean when you start the launcher
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#767 [10:26] <Jefferson> hello can some one help me with my 1.3.1 minecraft server
#768 [10:27] <lutzee> Jefferson, what is the problem?
#769 [10:27] <jomos> Well, top part is got the minecraft stone texture and bottom got dirt texture.
#770 [10:27] <Jefferson> well when i make my server i start it i can do what i want on it when a friend joins he cant do anything
#771 [10:28] <lutzee> Jefferson, it is probably spawn protection, get them to move like 50 blocks in one direction
#772 [10:29] <lutzee> and try again
#773 [10:29] <lutzee> jomos, hmm, thats odd
#774 [10:29] <lutzee> what anti virus do you use jomos ?
#775 [10:29] <jomos> nod32, turned it off while troubleshooting.
#776 [10:30] <Jefferson> well i proted him like 1000 blocks away from spawn
#777 [10:30] <Jefferson> he like kann mine the items but he doesnt get anny blocks
#778 [10:30] <lutzee> Jefferson, did you put him into creative mode?
#779 [10:31] <Jefferson> well its survival so no i didnt put him in any mode
#780 [10:32] <lutzee> Jefferson, use /gamemode <player> 0 to set him to survival just in case
#781 [10:34] <Jefferson> OKSX
#782 [10:34] <Jefferson> OKAY
#783 [10:35] <jomos> I start the launcher and it pops up, the text shows what changed in the updates and to the right there are som links. I type in my username and password. Then i get the message "can't connect to minecrat.net". But if I open my browser then I can log in onto www.minecraft.net.
#784 [10:35] <lutzee> jomos, servers are different
#785 [10:37] <lutzee> ??> jomos win/hosts
#786 [10:37] <VoxelHead> jomos: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#787 [10:37] <VoxelHead> jomos: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#788 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> !login
#789 [10:38] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: if he can visit the site then it probably wouldn't be the host file
#790 [10:38] <lutzee> tyteen4a03, logins are on a different IP to minecraft.net
#791 [10:39] <lutzee> some people are smart and just remove the dns lookup for the logins, to ensure access the the website is fine :p
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#793 [10:40] <jomos> http://pastebin.com/V15YLrZ7 there you go
#794 [10:40] <jomos> http://pastebin.com/V15YLrZ7 there you go
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#796 [10:41] <lutzee> looks fine, hmm tyteen4a03 you have any clues, he disabled his AV, java seems not to be using ipv6 :/
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#798 [10:45] <jomos> Any clues?
#799 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: firewalls in router/windows firewall? traceroute?
#800 [10:46] <lutzee> hmmm i guess
#801 [10:49] <jomos> All firewalls are disabled router, windows and AV. Also turned off AV.
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#804 [10:52] <tyteen4a03> ??> jomos traceroute
#805 [10:52] <tyteen4a03> hmm
#806 [10:52] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#807 [10:53] <jomos> Don't know traceroute.
#808 [10:53] <tyteen4a03> jomis: Can you open the Command Prompt?
#809 [10:53] <jomos> Sure
#810 [10:54] <tyteen4a03> jomos: then type in this command: "tracert login.minecraft.net"
#811 [10:54] <tyteen4a03> jomos: Wait for it to complete, then copy the result to pastebin.com
#812 [10:55] <Jefferson> can some one help me when my friend joins the server he spawns under the earth some how and i cant port him out of there but i can see him standing next to me
#813 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: wait for a few seconds, he will be teleported back up
#814 [10:56] <Jefferson> no he didnt he was like a minute down there
#815 [10:56] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: if it doesn't happen within 10 seconds, it means his internet connection and/or the server computer is not powerful enough
#816 [10:56] <Jefferson> well it worked like 7 days ago withou any problem
#817 [10:57] <Jefferson> s
#818 [10:57] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: internet connection statuses change
#819 [10:57] <Jefferson> no none changed something
#820 [10:58] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: in most cases, it's not you
#821 [10:58] <Jefferson> yeah but he hasnt changed anything either
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#823 [10:58] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: The internet in between, however, did
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#825 [10:59] <Jefferson> okay
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#827 [11:00] <jomos> http://pastebin.com/3nwFKcp7 There you go.
#828 [11:01] <Jefferson> but he aswell cant mine blocks they just dispear but he doesnt get them in his inventory
#829 [11:01] <Jefferson> and he is in survival mode
#830 [11:01] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: well, the internet is to blame
#831 [11:02] <Jefferson> you think it might be a problem with hamachi?
#832 [11:02] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: ah, hamachi
#833 [11:02] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: could be a factor, we don't support servers running Hamachi
#834 [11:02] <Jefferson> okay
#835 [11:02] <tyteen4a03> jomos: the tracert looks fine... I'm not sure what could be causing this either... hang on
#836 [11:03] <Jefferson> when i donwloaded it from the minecraft internet site how can connect to me else?
#837 [11:03] <tyteen4a03> jomos: Is your time correct?
#838 [11:03] <Jefferson> the server is from minecraft.net downloaded it an houer ago
#839 [11:03] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jefferson portforward
#840 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> god
#841 [11:04] <jomos> Yep, updated my time half an hour ago.
#842 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> ??> jomos win/profile
#843 [11:04] <VoxelHead> jomos: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#844 [11:04] <VoxelHead> jomos: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#845 [11:04] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: By port forwarding. Do you have access to your router's admin panel?
#846 [11:04] <jomos> ok ,will try
#847 [11:05] <Jefferson> yeah
#848 [11:06] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: can you tell me your router model?
#849 [11:06] <Jefferson> yes its a fritzbox
#850 [11:08] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: is there a model number?
#851 [11:08] <Jefferson> yes one sek
#852 [11:09] <Jefferson> 7570
#853 [11:09] <jomos> Same problem using another winprofile.
#854 [11:10] <tyteen4a03> jomos: does your router have a firewall? if so, can you try disabling it?
#855 [11:10] <jomos> Already disabled it.
#856 [11:12] <tyteen4a03> jomos: Can you try logging into Minecraft in Safe mode? this will determine if it's the router or windows itself
#857 [11:12] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: can you visit 192.168.1.1 in your browser?
#858 [11:12] <jomos> Safe mode?
#859 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> jomos: Reboot, and press F8 crazily until you see a list of boot options
#860 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> from there, select Safe Mode (With Networking features)
#861 [11:13] <tyteen4a03> jomos: if Windows prompts you about System Restore, just click No
#862 [11:13] <jomos> Ok! Hold on!
#863 [11:14] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jefferson dont/pm
#864 [11:14] <VoxelHead> Jefferson: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#865 [11:14] <Jefferson> sorry
#866 [11:14] <Jefferson> cant connect in my browser
#867 [11:15] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: Hang on
#868 [11:15] <Jefferson> but i can open the fritzbox controlpannel
#869 [11:15] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: Yes, do that please
#870 [11:15] <Jefferson> okay have done
#871 [11:16] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: from there, select Internet -> Port Forwarding
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#873 [11:19] <jomos> Got the same message in safe mode.
#874 [11:19] <tyteen4a03> jomos: Can you do the tracert thing in Safe Mode?
#875 [11:20] <jomos> Is there a use to that since the network aint working in safe mode?
#876 [11:20] <tyteen4a03> jomos: Did you select Safe Mode (with Networking)?
#877 [11:20] <Jefferson> okay im there
#878 [11:20] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: Click on New Port Forwarding button
#879 [11:21] <Jefferson> okay
#880 [11:21] <jomos> Was my only alternative for what I saw. Can heck again.
#881 [11:21] <jomos> *check
#882 [11:21] <Jefferson> my thing is on german so its not that easy to find :>
#883 [11:21] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: Internet -> Port Forwarding is the menu item you're looking for
#884 [11:22] <Jefferson> yes im there i am new port forwarding
#885 [11:22] <Jefferson> now
#886 [11:22] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: did you click on New Port forwarding button?
#887 [11:22] <Jefferson> yes
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#889 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: ok, fill out these settings:
#890 [11:24] <tyteen4a03> Tick Port Forwarding enabled for: Other Applications
#891 [11:25] <tyteen4a03> Name: Minecraft, From Port: 25565, To Port: 25565, leave others default
#892 [11:25] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: then press Apply
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#894 [11:26] <Jefferson> it says it needs an ip adress
#895 [11:27] <Generalcamo> I just setup a server, but I need to give it more memory
#896 [11:27] <Generalcamo> How would I do that?
#897 [11:27] <tyteen4a03> ??> win/client/moreram
#898 [11:27] <tyteen4a03> ??> Generalcamo win/client/moreram
#899 [11:27] <VoxelHead> Generalcamo: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#900 [11:27] <VoxelHead> Generalcamo: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#901 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> Generalcamo: Edit the file, and replace minecraft.jar with minecraft_server.jar
#902 [11:28] <Generalcamo> SERVER
#903 [11:28] <Generalcamo> Oh
#904 [11:28] <tyteen4a03> Generalcamo: if you wish to not run it in gui mode, append nogui at the end of the command
#905 [11:29] <Jefferson> tyteen4a03 it requires an ip adress just tke the one from my computer?
#906 [11:29] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: it's not filled out for you? OK
#907 [11:29] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: Open a command prompt, then type in "ipconfig"
#908 [11:30] <Jefferson> take ip4 adress right?
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#910 [11:30] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: just copy all the "IPv4 Addresses" you can find on the list, then paste them one by one here
#911 [11:31] <Jefferson> 5.198.30.159
#912 [11:31] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: not that, next
#913 [11:32] <Jefferson> 192.168.178.20
#914 [11:32] <Jefferson> my bad sorry
#915 [11:32] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: is there another address?
#916 [11:32] <jomos> I am in safe mode now. Were able to log on but the game didn't start. But it did download the game. And here is a trace in safe mode http://pastebin.com/xsG4Bstv
#917 [11:33] <Jefferson> no that one is the one that is from my pc
#918 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> jomos: this means you have an application that is blocking Minecraft, possibly viruses
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#920 [11:33] <Jefferson> 192.168.178.1
#921 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: so 192.168.178.20 and 5.198.30.159 is all you can find?
#922 [11:33] <Jefferson> is on that is still there
#923 [11:33] <tyteen4a03> just those delibrately marked as IPv4 address by windows
#924 [11:34] <jomos> And how can I locate the source?
#925 [11:34] <Jefferson> yes those 3 ar marke by windows ipv4
#926 [11:34] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: ok, fill 192.168.178.20 into the IP address box in the port forwarding form
#927 [11:34] <lutzee> tyteen4a03, relevant knowledge maybe?
#928 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: huh?
#929 [11:35] <lutzee> something that is known to cause issues
#930 [11:35] <lutzee> it's spyware/malware
#931 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> jomos: the best way is to use antivirus and anti-malware softwares
#932 [11:35] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: I guess next time I should just use the word malicious software :P
#933 [11:36] <jomos> Ok, will try with that.
#934 [11:36] <Jefferson> okay done
#935 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> jomos: you can also provide a hijackthis log and I will see what I can find, but only do that if AVs/AMs didn't do anything
#936 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: hang on
#937 [11:36] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: turn on the server
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#939 [11:38] <Jefferson> okay
#940 [11:38] <lutzee> !check 83.99.17.1
#941 [11:38] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: is it turned on?
#942 [11:38] <jomos_> Started a scan with Nod32, is there any other AV I should try with just in case?
#943 [11:39] <Jefferson> yes it is
#944 [11:39] <lutzee> !check 83.99.17.1
#945 [11:39] <lutzee> ports still closed
#946 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: can you paste your server.properties files onto pastebin.com?
#947 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> jomos_: if you didn't pay for NOD32, switch to Avast
#948 [11:40] <Jefferson> sure
#949 [11:40] <jomos_> I got a paid version.
#950 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> jomos_: oh well, you can stick with it
#951 [11:40] <lutzee> tyteen aubot would say if the ports are open, connected to a running machine but no minecraft server is running
#952 [11:40] <Rikairchy> hi tyteen4a03
#953 [11:40] <tyteen4a03> hi Rikairchy
#954 [11:41] <Rikairchy> how are you this fine day?
#955 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> !check 123.202.125.165
#956 [11:41] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: I have other services running on that IP
#957 [11:41] <jomos_> Using Eset Smart Security 5.
#958 [11:41] <lutzee> tyteen4a03, is that port open though?
#959 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: no
#960 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> I have DMZ though
#961 [11:42] <Jefferson> http://pastebin.com/R2vzv1eh
#962 [11:42] <lutzee> hence why it didn't work
#963 [11:42] <Rikairchy> if its DMZ
#964 [11:42] <Rikairchy> it should work...
#965 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: remove the server-ip value
#966 [11:42] <Rikairchy> tyteen4a03 did you break your minecraft
#967 [11:42] <Jefferson> done
#968 [11:42] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: I don't have a minecraft server running
#969 [11:43] <Rikairchy> oh
#970 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: now restart your server
#971 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> Rikairchy: it's just used to tell lutzee that AuBot doesn't scan other ports
#972 [11:43] <Jefferson> okay
#973 [11:44] <Rikairchy> ahh
#974 [11:44] <lutzee> hmm
#975 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> !check 83.99.17.1
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#977 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> !check 83.99.17.1
#978 [11:45] <Myst> hello
#979 [11:45] <tyteen4a03> hi
#980 [11:46] <tyteen4a03> !check 83.99.17.1
#981 [11:46] <Myst> I have an account and my son would like to be on it so he does not have to share my avatar and name
#982 [11:47] <lutzee> Myst, not possible he will need an account of his own
#983 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> Myst: One purchase goes to exactly one account
#984 [11:47] <tyteen4a03> Account sharing is not possible
#985 [11:47] <Myst> hmmm ok
#986 [11:47] <Myst> I guess I will have to change all my info to his
#987 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> Myst: it's currently not possible to change usernames, either
#988 [11:48] <Myst> oh well ty
#989 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> your best bet is to purchase another Minecraft account
#990 [11:48] <tyteen4a03> np
#991 [11:48] <Myst> :)
#992 [11:49] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: can you uninstall Hamachi and run the server again?
#993 [11:49] <Jefferson> can do
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#995 [11:50] <BranicYeti> Is there a fix for /stop throwing this error yet? http://pastie.org/4384463
#996 [11:50] <jomos_> So what if I do't find any viruses? (Still running the scan)
#997 [11:50] <tyteen4a03> BranicYeti: Is your server vanilla?
#998 [11:50] <BranicYeti> Yes
#999 [11:51] <tyteen4a03> jomos_: you can come back and ask for somebody to review your hijackthis log
#1000 [11:51] <lutzee> BranicYeti, that occurs when a player disconnects
#1001 [11:51] <jomos_> hijackthis?
#1002 [11:51] <BranicYeti> I got that when running stop
#1003 [11:51] <lutzee> BranicYeti, because you are on the server, the server will stop before connections are closed
#1004 [11:52] <BranicYeti> I wasnt on the server. Did it with console
#1005 [11:52] <BranicYeti> Whole log is here http://pastie.org/4384475
#1006 [11:52] <BranicYeti> I have an autorestart
#1007 [11:52] <Jefferson> okay done it
#1008 [11:53] <lutzee> BranicYeti, you do not have to worry about it, it will not affect anyhting
#1009 [11:53] <BranicYeti> I know, just wondered if it was fixed
#1010 [11:53] <lutzee> It's not a bug, therefore no fix is needed
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#1012 [11:55] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: can you take over Jefferson's case? I need to sleep
#1013 [11:55] <lutzee> Bout to go out i think
#1014 [11:56] <lutzee> !check 83.99.17.1
#1015 [11:57] <Dan> !check smp.minecraftersnetwork.net
#1016 [11:57] <Dan> cool now that bot is working
#1017 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: After uninstalling Hamachi, stop and start the server, then join the server by using this address: "83.99.17.1"
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#1019 [11:57] <Roadhog360> Helllo.
#1020 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: if you still have problems, tell another help that you are having port forwarding problems
#1021 [11:57] <tyteen4a03> *helper
#1022 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: yes?
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#1024 [11:58] <Roadhog360> i'm "myst's son?
#1025 [11:58] <Roadhog360> oops
#1026 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: hi
#1027 [11:58] <Roadhog360> i want to play minecraft.
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#1029 [11:58] <matt_> child
#1030 [11:58] <Roadhog360> What?
#1031 [11:58] <tyteen4a03> matt_: Yes?
#1032 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: ignore matt_
#1033 [11:59] <Roadhog360> ok.
#1034 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> oldtopman: you there?
#1035 [11:59] <matt_> my my child accidentally deleted file. can it be recovered?
#1036 [11:59] <tyteen4a03> matt_: Deleted what file? Minecraft.exe or the .minecraft folder?
#1037 [11:59] <lutzee> matt_, look in the recycling bin
#1038 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: did not see that coming :P
#1039 [12:00] <oldtopman> tyteen4a03: What's up?
#1040 [12:00] <lutzee> ;D
#1041 [12:00] <Roadhog360> well, i want to play mine craft, i was sniffing my desktop, but it was only on mom's
#1042 [12:00] <Roadhog360> .
#1043 [12:00] <tyteen4a03> oldtopman: just wondering if you're around, lutzee and I are about to go
#1044 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: I think you should talk to your dad about this
#1045 [12:01] <oldtopman> I'm not here too much, but I'll see what I can do.
#1046 [12:01] <Jefferson> tyteen4a03 it still isnt working who should i conntact?
#1047 [12:01] <Roadhog360> we find a way to get it on mine,
#1048 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: he will have the information to your account
#1049 [12:01] <Roadhog360> i log on...
#1050 [12:01] <Roadhog360> and poof, it says not premium
#1051 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: Does your home have 2 routers?
#1052 [12:01] <Roadhog360> no.
#1053 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> ??> Roadhog360 only/you
#1054 [12:01] <VoxelHead> Roadhog360: (only/you) You are not the only one in this channel, there are usually anywhere from 100 to 200 others. Please don't think every message sent to the channel is directed at you, especially if the message is explicitly directed at someone else.
#1055 [12:01] <VoxelHead> Roadhog360: (only/you) If a message is directed at you, it will start with your name. If you need to direct a message to someone specific, start it with their name.
#1056 [12:02] <Roadhog360> i know that.
#1057 [12:02] <Roadhog360> ok.
#1058 [12:02] <lutzee> Roadhog360, have you got your dad to pay for premium status on your new account?
#1059 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: I assumed, because you said no after I asked somebody else a question
#1060 [12:02] <Roadhog360> that was my mom
#1061 [12:03] <lutzee> Okay going now
#1062 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: ah, so are you logging on your mom's account or your own?
#1063 [12:03] <Roadhog360> my own
#1064 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: your mom's premium status cannot be transferred to your own account, you will have to ask your mom to pay for your account
#1065 [12:04] <Roadhog360> tyteen4a03, please.
#1066 [12:04] <Jefferson> no tyteen4a03 my home has 1 router
#1067 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> Jefferson: Try restarting the computer and try everything again, if it still doesn't work look for oldtopman
#1068 [12:04] <Roadhog360> we paid for the file. so why can't i play?
#1069 [12:05] <Toad> Cause you paid for premium
#1070 [12:05] <Roadhog360> with our own MONEY!
#1071 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: Your mom only paid for her account, not yours
#1072 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> premium status are per-account, not per-file
#1073 [12:05] <Jefferson> okay
#1074 [12:05] <Roadhog360> this is a dissrace.
#1075 [12:05] <Toad> Indeed you are.
#1076 [12:05] <Roadhog360> discrace*
#1077 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> Toad: Please don't start drama here
#1078 [12:05] <Necrodoom> Roadhog360: you are asking for 2 premium accounts
#1079 [12:05] <Necrodoom> Roadhog360: for one payment
#1080 [12:06] <Necrodoom> Roadhog360: no company would do that
#1081 [12:06] <Toad> Not dram tyteen4a03
#1082 [12:06] <Toad> drama*
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#1084 [12:07] <oldtopman> Toad, Roadhog360, You have two seperate accounts. You bought premium for one account. The other account is not premium.
#1085 [12:07] <Roadhog360> okay, you win, but don't think i won't return.
#1086 [12:07] <Necrodoom> Roadhog360: you arent scaring me
#1087 [12:07] <oldtopman> We're all volunteers here, so it makes no diferrence.
#1088 [12:07] <Roadhog360> bye.
#1089 [12:07] <Toad> why did you ping me oldtopman
#1090 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> ??> Roadhog360 attitude
#1091 [12:07] <VoxelHead> Roadhog360: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1092 [12:07] <oldtopman> Toad: My bad, sorry
#1093 [12:07] <VoxelHead> Roadhog360: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1094 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: one tip before you return
#1095 [12:07] <Roadhog360> Mom: sorry about that
#1096 [12:07] <Roadhog360> he just wants his own avatar
#1097 [12:08] <Roadhog360> with it's own name
#1098 [12:08] <oldtopman> Roadhog360: You are going to have to buy premium status for his new account.
#1099 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: I understand, but please understand that Minecraft's payment system is per-account, not per-copy
#1100 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: this also assures that your son can take Minecraft to another computer easily
#1101 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> Toad: he thought you and Roadhog360 were the same family
#1102 [12:08] <Necrodoom> considering minecraft purchase is virtual
#1103 [12:08] <Necrodoom> it cant be per copy
#1104 [12:09] <Necrodoom> else you get massive piracy issues
#1105 [12:09] <Roadhog360> well all other games can have more than one user because they are customizable
#1106 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: But because minecraft provide multiplayer support, this will unfortunately not be the case
#1107 [12:09] <Roadhog360> ok
#1108 [12:09] <Roadhog360> thanks
#1109 [12:10] <Toad> Nope have no idea who Roadhog360
#1110 [12:10] <Toad> is
#1111 [12:10] <Necrodoom> Roadhog360: no, these games give you a nickname, not a user
#1112 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> Roadhog360: No problem
#1113 [12:10] <Necrodoom> Roadhog360: on minecraft, theres no nickname, and skin is account wide
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#1115 [12:11] <Roadhog360> bye.
#1116 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> bye
#1117 [12:11] <Toad> TTFN
#1118 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> have a nice day
#1119 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> Toad: TTFN?
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#1121 [12:11] <Toad> Ta ta for now
#1122 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> I see
#1123 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> oldtopman: since you have |Kiikun| to assist you, I will follow Toad's path into idleness
#1124 [12:11] <oldtopman> Alright!
#1125 [12:11] <oldtopman> See you later!
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#1127 [12:13] <Price> Hello
#1128 [12:13] <oldtopman> Hello!
#1129 [12:13] <Price> How do I do split screen on mine raft
#1130 [12:13] <oldtopman> What do you mean?
#1131 [12:14] <Price> Can you play split screen 2players on minecraft
#1132 [12:14] <oldtopman> Is this for Xbox minecraft?
#1133 [12:14] <Price> Yes
#1134 [12:14] <oldtopman> Do you have a High Definition television?
#1135 [12:15] <Price> Yes I have he
#1136 [12:15] <oldtopman> You just need two players on the xbox, hit play, load any save you want (or create a new save) and once your in have the second player press start. If you prefer vertical splitscreen you can pause, go into options, and change it from there.
#1137 [12:16] <oldtopman> ??< index
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#1139 [12:16] <Calinou> <oldtopman> Do you have a High Definition television?
#1140 [12:17] <Price> Does player one need to be one x box live
#1141 [12:17] <Calinou> ^ you also have to connect your xbox to the TV using HDMI cable.
#1142 [12:17] <Price> What cable is that
#1143 [12:18] <oldtopman> The flat-looking cable.
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#1145 [12:18] <oldtopman> It looks like this: http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page2/B0002L5R78-1.jpg
#1146 [12:18] <Price> I don't know what that is
#1147 [12:19] <Toad> hdmi required for split-screen
#1148 [12:19] <Tails_> hdmi cable?
#1149 [12:19] <Toad> that is very odd
#1150 [12:19] <Price> I. Don't have one of those
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#1152 [12:23] <oldtopman> Price: That's probably your problem :<
#1153 [12:23] <Price> Ok thank you
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#1158 [12:38] <Grendorf> hey all, sorry to bother you with a noob question, just updated minecraft and now i cant join my own server?
#1159 [12:38] <Grendorf> "end of stream"?
#1160 [12:38] <oldtopman> Grendorf: The client just derps sometimes.
#1161 [12:39] <oldtopman> Just restart the client and try again.
#1162 [12:39] <oldtopman> It may take a few tries.
#1163 [12:39] <Grendorf> ah, done it a few times, il try some more,, thanks
#1164 [12:41] <Rikairchy> 0.0
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#1167 [12:43] <Grendorf> oldtopman, did not work, going to try the classic i should have done before asking here... restart the computer..
#1168 [12:43] <oldtopman> Grendorf: Can't hurt :)
#1169 [12:43] <oldtopman> Grendorf: Can't hurt :)
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#1173 [12:48] <Morrolan> He was using the same version of the server and the client, wasn't he.
#1174 [12:50] <oldtopman> erm
#1175 [12:51] <oldtopman> That's a good question, perhaps
#1176 [12:51] <oldtopman> Am I the only one who's noticed that /me is broken?
#1177 [12:51] <oldtopman> (in minecraft 1.3)
#1178 [12:52] <Calinou> "didn't try; bukkit FTW"
#1179 [12:52] <Calinou> how I feel about vanilla server
#1180 [12:52] <oldtopman> >.>
#1181 [12:52] <Morrolan> Not on 1.3 yet, so couldn't tell. :)
#1182 [12:52] <oldtopman> Would be nice if people would go check, but meh
#1183 [12:52] <oldtopman> also
#1184 [12:53] <oldtopman> /tell is broken for everyone
#1185 [12:53] <oldtopman> And /me only works for ops.
#1186 [12:53] <Calinou> /tell is broken, yes
#1187 [12:53] <Calinou> /me only works for ops, yes
#1188 [12:53] <oldtopman> Any idea why?
#1189 [12:53] <woodtech> its kinda sad that on an other server I have to pay to get the /me option
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#1191 [12:54] <woodtech> not that they shouldn't get money from me
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#1193 [12:55] <Calinou> protip: fake-me
#1194 [12:55] <Calinou> just say "* your_name does action", like I do
#1195 [12:55] <Calinou> that'll teach server owners for not allowing everyone to use /me. :|
#1196 [12:55] <woodtech> heh yeah, but I'm overusing /me anyway
#1197 [12:55] <Morrolan> That's like saying "Walking will teach server owners not to allow everyone to use /tp" :D
#1198 [12:55] <oldtopman> But now we can't allow people to use them at all :x
#1199 [12:55] <woodtech> its maybe a good way to unlearn it
#1200 [12:55] <zooom> i got this error after clicking "play Demo" http://pastebin.com/CctsaLqr
#1201 [12:55] <Morrolan> Oh, right, demo.
#1202 [12:56] <Morrolan> It's in 1.3 now, completely forgot about that one.
#1203 [12:56] <woodtech> I heared the demo is broken as well
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#1205 [12:57] <zooom> ah ok, thx .... but with a purchased account it will be run?
#1206 [12:57] <woodtech> np with that
#1207 [12:58] <Sakura_Solo> Hi hi. n.n Quick question: How can I emulate a LAN so my online friends can join said LAN and we can make use of Minecraft 1.3.1's new LAN feature as an effective server?
#1208 [12:58] <woodtech> only the osx client was reverted because something was broken I heared
#1209 [12:58] <woodtech> but I had no issues here
#1210 [12:58] <zooom> ok thx
#1211 [12:58] <Sakura_Solo> Because I've made a server traditionally, but there's one friend that CANNOT log on for the life of her.
#1212 [12:59] <woodtech> *osx client login screen or something
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#1218 [13:04] <tyteen4a03> Sakura_Solo: Cannot login? Why is that so?
#1219 [13:05] <woodtech> not sure, but I believe non-premium players can't log in yet
#1220 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> woodtech: Non-premium accounts cannot play Minecraft Release
#1221 [13:06] <Sakura_Solo> No, she's a premium player, she just has network issues.
#1222 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> Sakura_Solo: can you describe this issue?
#1223 [13:07] <Sakura_Solo> I... made a server using the minecraft_server.jar, gave everyone the IP, everyone else could join, she couldn't even though she has a premium account, but that's not what I'm asking.
#1224 [13:07] <Sakura_Solo> I'm asking how to emulate a LAN and allow people to join because I think it'll make things much easier if we're all just on a network.
#1225 [13:07] <Morrolan> If she can't join a standalone server she most likely can't join the built-in server either.
#1226 [13:08] <Morrolan> As for "emulating" LAN, look into software like Hamachi. However, just as often as it helps, it breaks things.
#1227 [13:08] <woodtech> or maybe a network issue ;-)
#1228 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> ?? fubar/hamachi\
#1229 [13:08] <Morrolan> If you'd give us the error she gets, and the error you get in the server console, someone might be able to help further.
#1230 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> ?? hamachi
#1231 [13:08] <Morrolan> It's fubar/hamachi
#1232 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> derp
#1233 [13:08] <Morrolan> You had a backslash there. ^^
#1234 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> yeah, I saw it
#1235 [13:09] <Calinou> why "fubar"? :p
#1236 [13:09] <Boreeas> Because Hamachi is fucked up beyond all repair.
#1237 [13:09] <Morrolan> fowled, not fucked. ;)
#1238 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> fowled up?
#1239 [13:09] <Boreeas> I'm sorry :P
#1240 [13:09] <Calinou> hamashit :P
#1241 [13:10] <Sakura_Solo> I don't get an error on my console. She puts in the IP and my server just doesn't sh-... okay, you know what? Forget it. You guys aren't serious about it.
#1242 [13:10] <Morrolan> [19:08:19] <@Morrolan> As for "emulating" LAN, look into software like Hamachi. However, just as often as it helps, it breaks things.
#1243 [13:10] <Morrolan> How more serious do you want us to get?
#1244 [13:11] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Yea, go wash your mouth with soap now.
#1245 [13:11] <Morrolan> (And don't drop it :>)
#1246 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> let's all blame Boreeas
#1247 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> I realized that next month, it'll be my 1st anniversary here
#1248 [13:12] <Morrolan> Esper or #minecrafthelp?
#1249 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> *just realized
#1250 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> #mchelp
#1251 [13:12] <Rikairchy> D:
#1252 [13:12] <Calinou> <tyteen4a03> I realized that next month, it'll be my 1st anniversary here
#1253 [13:12] <Calinou> I'm here since more than 1 year :D I first joined july 16th
#1254 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> ah, I joined on Sun Sep 19 11:45:34 2010
#1255 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> wait, that is more than a year
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#1257 [13:13] <Morrolan> I registered my nickname somewhere in feburary 2011, so I've probably been in here since the end of 2010 or so.
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#1259 [13:14] <Morrolan> Now if only I had any idea why I actually joined IRC, all these days ago.
#1260 [13:14] <Moxxi> Can anyone help me with magiclauncher and modloader?
#1261 [13:14] <Moxxi> it's giving me a black screen.
#1262 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> ??> moxi mods
#1263 [13:14] <VoxelHead> moxi: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1264 [13:14] <VoxelHead> moxi: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1265 [13:14] <Boreeas> I think I got in here becasue of a translate bot :P
#1266 [13:14] <tyteen4a03> Moxxi: ^^
#1267 [13:14] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Heh.
#1268 [13:15] <Morrolan> I assume I needed help with Minecraft, but I don't know for sure.
#1269 [13:15] <Moxxi> mods: biospheres, modloader (In magic launcher as well as the .jar) shelf, and spcommands
#1270 [13:15] <Morrolan> Or maybe it was linked on the forums.
#1271 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> I got on IRC because a fansite used IRC as their chat medium (on GameSurge, wasn't really a plasurable experience)
#1272 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> ??> Moxxi mods
#1273 [13:15] <VoxelHead> Moxxi: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1274 [13:15] <VoxelHead> Moxxi: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#1275 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> I started using IRC in my everyday routine because of Minecraft
#1276 [13:16] <Moxxi> I used irc as a direct means to talk to relatively intelligent people.
#1277 [13:16] <Moxxi> I may just have to open up a new server to connect to all these minecraft chats.
#1278 [13:16] <Morrolan> Since Esper increased the channel limit to 50 recently I've been fine. :)
#1279 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> Moxxi: everything started on Esper but it spread around
#1280 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: yeah, thanks to xales mainly
#1281 [13:17] * Morrolan gives xales a pat on the back
#1281 [13:17] <ShaRose> Moxxi Funfact: Right now I'm connected to 15 networks and 90 channels
#1282 [13:17] <ShaRose> at last, on last count
#1283 [13:17] <Moxxi> yeah. I prefer to keep it on the server that has most of the channels I want.
#1284 [13:17] <tyteen4a03> Moxxi: a very old minecraft server opened its own IRC network
#1285 [13:17] <Moxxi> hard to find a new home though...
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#1287 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> I am currently on 61 channels across 5 networks
#1288 [13:18] <joe_> hey
#1289 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> hi
#1290 [13:18] <Boreeas> 29/7
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#1292 [13:18] <Boreeas> I can't really fit any more in the channel tree though :P
#1293 [13:19] <joe_> do you know how to fix the delete button deleting whole words?
#1294 [13:20] <joe_> anyone?
#1295 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> joe_: By using a recovery software like Recuva
#1296 [13:20] <Boreeas> Without backups, you can either check the recycle bin, or you may need a tool that can recover removed files from disks
#1297 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> Boreeas: it's the delete button in Minecraft, pretty sure they don't end up in the recycle bin
#1298 [13:20] <Boreeas> In the latter case, you probably will experience some world corruption
#1299 [13:20] <Morrolan> Boreeas - I don't believe Minecraft's delete function uses the recylce butotn.
#1300 [13:20] <Morrolan> argh
#1301 [13:20] <Morrolan> recycle bin*
#1302 [13:20] <Morrolan> recycle bin*
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#1309 [13:39] <xarcus> !check 145.53.239.97
#1310 [13:39] <xarcus> damnit still not working
#1311 [13:40] <xarcus> impossible, everything is port 4warded correctly
#1312 [13:40] <Morrolan> Internal IP is still the same?
#1313 [13:40] <Morrolan> Security software disabled?
#1314 [13:40] <Morrolan> Hamachi's network adapter disabled, if present?
#1315 [13:40] <xarcus> that ast one
#1316 [13:40] <Morrolan> Paid the ransom to the Mafia, if in Italy?
#1317 [13:40] <xarcus> *last one
#1318 [13:40] <xarcus> le me check that
#1319 [13:41] <xarcus> is there anything to do with my server files preventing other ppl to connect to it?
#1320 [13:42] <Morrolan> If you set server-ip in the properties file then this might be the cause as well.
#1321 [13:42] <xarcus> no ive left that blank, thats ok right?
#1322 [13:43] <Morrolan> Yea.
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#1324 [13:44] <xarcus> is there somewhere a checklist to check if server is set up properly?
#1325 [13:44] <Morrolan> No.
#1326 [13:44] <Morrolan> Well, not that I know of.$
#1327 [13:44] <xarcus> let me check my modem again
#1328 [13:45] <xarcus> oh wait
#1329 [13:45] <xarcus> could it be because i dont have static ip?
#1330 [13:45] <gaurav> OS X: does anyone keep getting this when they click on Multiplayer from the main screen? https://img.skitch.com/20120803-c37embing1yudqk9g5septc52p.png — 'Do you want the application "Minecraft.app" to accept incoming network connections?'
#1331 [13:45] <woodtech> xarcus: thats very likely if you don't know your isp
#1332 [13:46] <xarcus> ok
#1333 [13:46] <xarcus> so many lags in firefox while having server running
#1334 [13:46] <Morrolan> xarcus - Assuming other people connect using the correct IP? No.
#1335 [13:46] <Morrolan> Ofcourse, if they try the IP which you had yesterday then this wouldn't work.
#1336 [13:47] <Morrolan> gaurav - Sounds like one of OSX's security features, but I've never seen anyone mentioning it so far.
#1337 [13:47] <xarcus> honestly i have no idea what i'm doing
#1338 [13:47] <Morrolan> gaurav - But you'll have to allow it to accept incoming connections if you want to play multiplayer I'd say.
#1339 [13:47] <gaurav> ty Morrolan
#1340 [13:47] <woodtech> xarcus: its just a phase I guess :-)
#1341 [13:47] <gaurav> yeah, that's the issue Morrolan — it is added but it keeps asking
#1342 [13:47] <gaurav> I'll mess around with OS X
#1343 [13:48] <Morrolan> Oh, I see.
#1344 [13:48] <Morrolan> What version of OSX are you on?
#1345 [13:48] <gaurav> 10.6 (Snow Leopard)
#1346 [13:48] <Morrolan> Apart from that, I'd check the Security Preferences -> Firewall pane. (Yes, I'm quoting that popup :D)
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#1348 [13:49] <woodtech> I don't have issues with my firewall, its just asking me questions if it doesn't know the app
#1349 [13:49] <woodtech> (also using 10.6)
#1350 [13:50] <Morrolan> Yea, but according to that popup you can disable that message in Security Preferences -> Firewall, seemingly.
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#1352 [13:51] <Angus_Miguel> hi guys, my mc doesn't do any sounds, any idea of how to fix?
#1353 [13:51] <woodtech> disable enable sound?
#1354 [13:51] <woodtech> if it doesn't work, restart mc
#1355 [13:51] <Angus_Miguel> of mc or all sounds?
#1356 [13:52] <gaurav> are you getting sound from other apps? mp3 player?
#1357 [13:52] <woodtech> in the worst case (which saved me the last time) restart the computer (assuming all other sound works)
#1358 [13:52] <Angus_Miguel> all sounds work but minecraft. i got this issue since 1.3 pre release
#1359 [13:52] <Angus_Miguel> i have mc since 1.4 and never got this
#1360 [13:53] <woodtech> Angus_Miguel: I had to restart my computer until I've got my sound fixed
#1361 [13:53] <woodtech> could you try that after trying to restart mc?
#1362 [13:54] <Angus_Miguel> restart mutiple times? i've done that and it's still the same...
#1363 [13:54] <xarcus> hey. but do i need to add 25565 to my trigger port list of my modem?
#1364 [13:55] <Morrolan> Don't use trigger ports for a server, add an exception which is always in place.
#1365 [13:55] <woodtech> k, then I'm out of checks in my checklist ;-)
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#1367 [13:55] <xarcus> i cant add exceptions
#1368 [13:55] <lowlf> i have recently updated my minecraft
#1369 [13:56] <lowlf> and it now says that my multiplayer servers are outdated
#1370 [13:56] <lowlf> and it has say that for the past 2 days
#1371 [13:56] <lowlf> it hasnt changed
#1372 [13:56] <lowlf> what could/should i do
#1373 [13:56] <lowlf> ?
#1374 [13:56] <xarcus> lowf: because the servers dont run 1.3.1 yet, their bukkit isn't available for the newer version
#1375 [13:56] <xarcus> downgrade to 1.2.5
#1376 [13:56] <Angus_Miguel> wait the servers to update
#1377 [13:57] <lowlf> so can they upgrade?
#1378 [13:58] <lowlf> and how do i do that?
#1379 [13:58] <xarcus> in a week i expect to everything to work as normal, keep a copy of the jars of 1.3.1 and 1.2.5 and switch if needed
#1380 [13:58] <Morrolan> If you're hosting the server, grab the new server files from www.minecraft.net/download respectivley Bukkit's download page.
#1381 [13:58] <Morrolan> If someone else is hosting the server, wait for them to make th change.
#1382 [13:58] <lowlf> so just wait a week for it
#1383 [13:58] <lowlf> that sounds good to me
#1384 [13:58] <Morrolan> As for downgrading, use a tool like McNostalgia.
#1385 [13:59] <Morrolan> Or yea, wait a week or so. :)
#1386 [13:59] <lowlf> ok thanks guys(:
#1387 [13:59] <xarcus> bye]
#1388 [14:01] <xarcus> i vaguely remember i had to do something like http://blog.mclaughlinsoftware.com/2009/11/26/windows-7-static-ip/ to get my mc server to work
#1389 [14:01] <xarcus> when i had a server a while ago ( a year or so)
#1390 [14:02] <xarcus> let me give that a try
#1391 [14:02] <Morrolan> That's for the internal IP. Which would be "<@Morrolan> Internal IP is still the same?"
#1392 [14:02] <xarcus> ok
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#1394 [14:03] <Morrolan> Assuming the internal IP of the server is not the one specified in the portforwarding then it won't work indeed.
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#1399 [14:04] <C0DEMAN5000> why cant i purchase with paypal?
#1400 [14:05] <Morrolan> Are you using a linked credit card, or funds located on your PayPal account?
#1401 [14:05] <C0DEMAN5000> instant transfer from bank account
#1402 [14:05] <Morrolan> Instant transfer from bank account? That'd be a, err, debit card?
#1403 [14:05] <zzzzzz> I have tried everything from reinstalling java, minecraft, removing all files, and have finally done a total restore and reformat of my toshiba computer running windows 7 64x, and minecraft will not work, it crashes once i log in, and the web version just goes to a black screen, java is up to date
#1404 [14:05] <C0DEMAN5000> no my bank account
#1405 [14:06] <C0DEMAN5000> my paypal is link to my checking account, it shows my acccount number not any credit or debit cards
#1406 [14:06] <Morrolan> Heh, never heard of it, but Google says it exists too.
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#1408 [14:07] <Morrolan> zzzzzz - Remove Java 1.7, install Java 1.6
#1409 [14:07] <kas13> minecraft wont let me play at all. im currently on a server that hasnt updated yet and when i log in it says to upgrade or not so i clicked not now and it wont load whatso ever now, it just freezes. any suggestions?
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#1411 [14:07] <zzzzzz> i need old java ok ill try that thanks
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#1413 [14:07] <Morrolan> C0DEMAN5000 - Payments made via credit card tend to get blocked since it's an international payment, maybe something similar happens with this instant bank transfer thingy.
#1414 [14:08] <Morrolan> You could call your bank, and ask whether this is the case.
#1415 [14:08] <C0DEMAN5000> so how can i buy the game????
#1416 [14:08] <Morrolan> kas13 - Ugh, updating should fix this, but then you'd have to use a tool like McNostalgia to downgrade to 1.2.5 again.
#1417 [14:08] <lukegb> C0DEMAN5000: is this a PayPal issue?
#1418 [14:08] <xarcus1> for some reason windows blocked me out from the internet when changing static ip settings then mibbit didnt allow me to use xarcus nick again?
#1419 [14:08] <xarcus1> lol
#1420 [14:08] <Morrolan> C0DEMAN5000 - <@Morrolan> You could call your bank, and ask whether this is the case.
#1421 [14:08] <C0DEMAN5000> no it says contact the merchant
#1422 [14:09] <Morrolan> Yea, we don't work for Mojang though.
#1423 [14:09] <C0DEMAN5000> i use my paypal for EVERYHTING
#1424 [14:09] <kas13> but if i update ill lose everything i had on the server
#1425 [14:09] <Morrolan> kas13 - No, stuff you built on the server is saved on the server. (Including your inventory)
#1426 [14:09] <lukegb> C0DEMAN5000: ugh, if you want, send me the money and I'll buy you a gift code.
#1427 [14:09] <lukegb> I'm feeling nice today.
#1428 [14:09] <C0DEMAN5000> LOL yea i dont think so
#1429 [14:09] <Morrolan> Then contact your bank.
#1430 [14:10] <Morrolan> Or contact Mojang and wait two months for a reply. :)
#1431 [14:10] <kas13> yes but i also wont be able to get back on the server if i upgrade because the server hasnt upgraded yet, no one else has this problem on the server just me.
#1432 [14:10] <lukegb> C0DEMAN5000: I'm not joking or being funny. I'm actually trying to help.
#1433 [14:10] <Morrolan> kas13 - Yea, after you updated you could use a tool like McNostalgia to downgrade to 1.2.5 again.
#1434 [14:10] <Morrolan> kas13 - As it is now, most likely your Minecraft installation is messed up somehow. To fix this you'll need clean files, which an update will provide.
#1435 [14:11] <C0DEMAN5000> so im suppose to just trust some random person with my money?
#1436 [14:11] <Morrolan> kas13 - Unless, did you update your Java version recently?
#1437 [14:11] <Morrolan> C0DEMAN5000 - You don't HAVE to, we've shown you the possibilities you have. ;)
#1438 [14:11] <kas13> lol uh how do i get mcnosalgia?
#1439 [14:11] <lukegb> ^
#1440 [14:11] <kas13> and yes i updated my java 2 days ago
#1441 [14:11] <Morrolan> Contact bank, contact Mojang, take lukegb up on his offer.
#1442 [14:11] <C0DEMAN5000> ugh
#1443 [14:11] <Morrolan> kas13 - Oh, that would be the issue then. Minecraft doesn't work properly with Java 1.7. You could try to remove Java 1.7 and install Java 1.6 again.
#1444 [14:12] <kas13> okays ill see what i can do. i may just wait until the server updates then i will
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#1446 [14:12] <Balee> Heya.
#1447 [14:12] <Morrolan> kas13 - You can find java 6 here, btw: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1448 [14:12] <Morrolan> ??< index
#1449 [14:13] <Balee> Does anyone else noticed tamed wolves sitting down during attacking a mob that attacked the player?
#1450 [14:13] <Balee> *Did anyone
#1451 [14:13] <Balee> *notice
#1452 [14:13] <woodtech> right clicked?
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#1454 [14:13] <Balee> Yes, wolves that stood up when the player was attacked.
#1455 [14:13] <Morrolan> There's a similar issue I know of. If you tell a wolf to sit down, and then get attacked by a mob, he will teleport to you, defending you.
#1456 [14:13] <Balee> Sitting wolves.
#1457 [14:14] <zzzzzz> so i removed all programs that said java, and installed 1.6, but it still does the exact same thing
#1458 [14:14] <Katoteshikumei> i like the werechair mod
#1459 [14:14] <Morrolan> Now they'll still look as if they were sitting, somehow.
#1460 [14:14] <Morrolan> zzzzzz - Restart your computer.
#1461 [14:14] <xarcus1> BRB
#1462 [14:14] <woodtech> hmm, I don't get the problem of teleporting wolves
#1463 [14:14] <Katoteshikumei> ...wait a second this isn't #minecraft
#1464 [14:14] <woodtech> only, my wolved don't sit on the same spot
#1465 [14:15] <woodtech> they slightly move
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#1467 [14:15] <C0DEMAN5000> sorry, what was that?
#1468 [14:16] <lukegb> C0DEMAN5000: you have 3 options at this point: contact your bank, contact Mojang, or take me up on my offer.
#1469 [14:16] <kas13> so if i cant get on after i reinstall this should i just update it anyway and when the server gets updated ill be able to get back on?
#1470 [14:16] <lukegb> C0DEMAN5000: as it is, I have to leave now, so you have 2 choices: contact your bank or Mojang.
#1471 [14:17] <C0DEMAN5000> well poo
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#1475 [14:19] <zzzzzz> i restarted after the reinstall, still nothing morrolan.... its generating a lot of java crash logs with the error exeption access violation
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#1478 [14:20] <SKIDROW> http://www.skidrow-scene.net/ please visit
#1479 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> SKIDROW: no advertising
#1480 [14:21] <Calinou> ^ spammer
#1481 [14:21] <Calinou> noone click the link above
#1482 [14:22] <SKIDROW> http://www.skidrow-scene.net/ please visit
#1483 [14:22] <SKIDROW> http://www.skidrow-scene.net/ please visit
#1484 [14:22] <C0DEMAN5000> wow what a tool
#1485 [14:22] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: but I wanna D:
#1486 [14:22] <kas13> i reinstalled it and nothing changed. Should i just update and when the server updates ill have everything back? or just wait until the server updates?
#1487 [14:22] <Calinou> lol
#1488 [14:23] <C0DEMAN5000> i just wish i could but the game
#1489 [14:23] <C0DEMAN5000> they need a better system
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#1495 [14:35] <zzzzzz> Morrolan I found out my problem after forever
#1496 [14:35] <zzzzzz> this model of laptop has a shit manufacturer apparently
#1497 [14:36] <zzzzzz> the Toshiba C660 ships with AMD video drivers when it only has an integrated Intel video card with the i3
#1498 [14:36] <zzzzzz> so i just had to remove the amd drivers with driversweeper
#1499 [14:36] <zzzzzz> and it works now
#1500 [14:36] <zzzzzz> fucking toshiba
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#1503 [14:36] <zzzzzz> u get that morrolan
#1504 [14:36] <zzzzzz> u get that morrolan
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#1506 [14:37] <zzzzzz> just for future reference..... some models of toshiba come w the wrong drivers... c660 apparently is one of them, gj toshiba, minecraft works now
#1507 [14:37] <zzzzzz> thanks, bye
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#1509 [14:39] <Calinou> as always: <sarcasm>toshiba FTW</sarcasm>
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#1511 [14:51] <Morrolan> Oh, the famous C660.
#1512 [14:52] <Morrolan> Should've gone for a dxdiag, then it'd have been obvious I guess.
#1513 [14:52] * Morrolan blames his lazyness
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#1515 [15:02] <longmvu> Hello the demo wont work for me
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#1517 [15:07] <Greg_> hi i have a problem
#1518 [15:07] <Greg_> can you help
#1519 [15:08] <tyteen4a03> Greg_: Yes?
#1520 [15:08] <Greg_> when i open minecraft its gives me a white message saying something about a video card
#1521 [15:09] <Greg_> what is that
#1522 [15:09] <Rikairchy> its a card
#1523 [15:09] <Rikairchy> in your computer
#1524 [15:09] <Rikairchy> that displays what you see on your screen
#1525 [15:09] <Greg_> it says that i need an update for that in order to play the new updates...how can i do that
#1526 [15:10] <Rikairchy> ??> Greg_ drivers
#1527 [15:10] <Rikairchy> usux
#1528 [15:10] <Rikairchy> ??> Greg_ driver
#1529 [15:10] <Greg_> yes how do i update that
#1530 [15:10] <Rikairchy> >.>
#1531 [15:10] <Rikairchy> do you have an ATI or nVidia card
#1532 [15:11] <Greg_> i have no idea
#1533 [15:11] <Rikairchy> ?? index
#1534 [15:11] <VoxelHead> index: See http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/ for a list of FAQ entries.
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#1536 [15:11] <Greg_> i am a amater with computers and i usually play mincraft on the iphone or xbox
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#1538 [15:11] <Rikairchy> the faq is blank....
#1539 [15:12] <Rikairchy> okay
#1540 [15:12] <Rikairchy> i assume you have Windows, right?
#1541 [15:12] <Greg_> this is what i get....
#1542 [15:12] <Greg_> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 8/3/12 3:11 PM - Minecraft Version: 1.3.1 - Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0_04, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Version: Java HotSpot
#1543 [15:12] <Rikairchy> okay
#1544 [15:12] <Rikairchy> you do have windows
#1545 [15:12] <Rikairchy> click start, then click run
#1546 [15:13] <burtnfrieser> I accidently went into the end on a map that i worked very hard on, i destroyed all the crystals and the dragon hasnt showed up i dont even get the boss health thing on the top
#1547 [15:13] <Greg_> ok then what
#1548 [15:13] <burtnfrieser> How do i get out?!?!?!?
#1549 [15:13] <Rikairchy> burtnfrieser:
#1550 [15:13] <Rikairchy> less exclamation/question marks.
#1551 [15:13] <Rikairchy> they're irritating
#1552 [15:13] <Rikairchy> Greg_: type in: mmc devmgmt.msc
#1553 [15:13] <Rikairchy> exactly like that
#1554 [15:14] <Rikairchy> ?? update/drivers
#1555 [15:14] <Greg_> okhold on
#1556 [15:14] <Rikairchy> ugh usux voxel
#1557 [15:14] <Rikairchy> :(
#1558 [15:14] <burtnfrieser> So what do i do to get out?
#1559 [15:14] <Greg_> ok then device mamnger comes up
#1560 [15:14] <Rikairchy> look under Display Adapters
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#1562 [15:14] <Greg_> ok then what
#1563 [15:14] <Rikairchy> whats it say under there?
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#1566 [15:15] <Greg_> Mobile Intel 945 Express Chipset Family
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#1568 [15:16] <Rikairchy> oh
#1569 [15:16] <Rikairchy> its a laptop
#1570 [15:16] <Greg_> but underneath it has the IDE/ATA thingy you were saying
#1571 [15:16] <Rikairchy> integrated video
#1572 [15:16] <Rikairchy> no
#1573 [15:16] <solohansolo> I am stuck in the end and have destroyed all the crystals, the dragon hasnt shown up i need to know how to get out
#1574 [15:16] <Rikairchy> I said ATI/nVidia
#1575 [15:16] <Greg_> oh sorry
#1576 [15:16] <Rikairchy> solohansolo is back
#1577 [15:16] <solohansolo> yes and i need help
#1578 [15:16] <jer_> creative mode inventory crashes and leaves an error message
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#1580 [15:17] <jer_> here it is Minecraft has crashed! ---------------------- Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Unexpected error This error has been saved to C:\Users\jer\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-08-03_14.13.19-client.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT ff646162 -------- Generated
#1581 [15:17] <Rikairchy> Greg_: go to your manufacturors site
#1582 [15:17] <Rikairchy> go to their support/downloads section
#1583 [15:17] <Rikairchy> and download the drivers for it
#1584 [15:17] <Greg_> what like HP manufactures site?
#1585 [15:17] <Rikairchy> yes
#1586 [15:18] <solohansolo> so am i going to recieve help or what?
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#1588 [15:18] <Rikairchy> solohansolo: not from me, as you seem really impatient already.
#1589 [15:18] <Rikairchy> there may be others that might help
#1590 [15:18] <Greg_> under driver suppourt
#1591 [15:18] <Rikairchy> yes Greg_
#1592 [15:18] <solohansolo> yes because i think it is something simple.. but i cant find anything
#1593 [15:18] <solohansolo> fuck you
#1594 [15:18] * AuBot kicked solohansolo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: olohansolo :Please keep it civil.)
#1595 [15:19] <Rikairchy> <3 AuBot
#1596 [15:19] <jer_> could someone please help me?
#1597 [15:20] <Greg_> just a second......
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#1599 [15:21] <sp1> hello guys
#1600 [15:21] <sp1> i have a problem.. i lost my map on a survival map im playing
#1601 [15:21] <sp1> any command to give me back a map?
#1602 [15:21] <sp1> or an editor or something..
#1603 [15:22] <Rikairchy> you use /quit mapname
#1604 [15:22] <Rikairchy> /quit RikaiCastle
#1605 [15:22] <Rikairchy> it works on IRC too
#1606 [15:22] <sp1> is that for me Rikairchy?
#1607 [15:23] <Nathan2055> jer_: What?
#1608 [15:23] <Rikairchy> yup
#1609 [15:24] <sp1> how do i apply that inside the game?
#1610 [15:24] <Rikairchy> i just do it from IRC
#1611 [15:24] <Nathan2055> That't doesn't work.
#1612 [15:24] <sp1> why are dicks like that allowed in a help channel?
#1613 [15:24] <Rikairchy> because, I actually do help
#1614 [15:25] <Rikairchy> i just occasionally troll
#1615 [15:25] <Rikairchy> you'd be surprised how many fall for it.
#1616 [15:25] <Nathan2055> sp1: You can use an editor such as TooManyItems or Single Player Commands.
#1617 [15:25] <Nathan2055> !help
#1618 [15:25] <Rikairchy> Nathan2055: he wants to recover a map
#1619 [15:25] <Nathan2055> I know.
#1620 [15:25] <Rikairchy> if I read correctly
#1621 [15:25] <Rikairchy> but TMI won't recover maps >.>
#1622 [15:26] <sp1> yes.. when i started the map i had a map.. but then i died and lost it
#1623 [15:26] <Nathan2055> /give Nathan2055 id
#1624 [15:26] <Rikairchy> you mean
#1625 [15:26] <Nathan2055> An item, not a world.
#1626 [15:26] <Rikairchy> a map inside the game?
#1627 [15:26] <Rikairchy> oh
#1628 [15:26] <sp1> yes
#1629 [15:26] <Nathan2055> :P
#1630 [15:26] * Rikairchy fail
#1630 [15:26] <sp1> an item
#1631 [15:26] <Rikairchy> did you enable cheats in the game?
#1632 [15:26] <sp1> sorry if i not explain properly
#1633 [15:26] <sp1> no
#1634 [15:26] <Rikairchy> look for an inventory editor
#1635 [15:26] <Rikairchy> i used to use InvEdit
#1636 [15:27] <Nathan2055> TooManyItems is the most popular: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/140684-131-toomanyitems-in-game-invedit-aug-1/
#1637 [15:27] <Rikairchy> have they updated for 1.3.1?
#1638 [15:28] <sp1> trying InvEdit noe... thanks!
#1639 [15:29] <sp1> huhu.. it works!
#1640 [15:29] <sp1> i has map!
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#1644 [15:35] <skywalkertx> Hello?
#1645 [15:35] <skywalkertx> Hello?
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#1648 [15:37] <tyteen4a03> skywalkertx: Yes?
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#1651 [15:38] <skywalkertx_> Hello?
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#1653 [15:40] <skywalkertx> Hello?
#1654 [15:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> skywalkertx ask
#1655 [15:40] <VoxelHead> skywalkertx: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1656 [15:40] <VoxelHead> skywalkertx: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1657 [15:42] <skywalkertx> Okay, Since 1.3.1 came out I have been unable to play minecraft SSP because clicking "Save and Quit" will save the player configuration but not any block changes.
#1658 [15:42] <laylu> i need help spawn comands 1.3.1
#1659 [15:42] <tyteen4a03> laylu: Can you be more specific?
#1660 [15:43] <skywalkertx> (ask)
#1661 [15:43] <tyteen4a03> skywalkertx: Does this happen in only 1 world or in all worlds?
#1662 [15:43] <laylu> on serever in game typing comands
#1663 [15:43] <skywalkertx> It happens in all worlds.
#1664 [15:44] <tyteen4a03> skywalkertx: I assume you're on vanilla minecraft?
#1665 [15:44] <skywalkertx> Of course.
#1666 [15:45] <skywalkertx> Sorry, not sure what to do now...I have never used an IRC
#1667 [15:46] <tyteen4a03> skywalkertx: relax is the key :P
#1668 [15:46] <tyteen4a03> skywalkertx: Did you turn on Adventure mode?
#1669 [15:46] <skywalkertx> No, I didn't.
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#1672 [15:48] <tyteen4a03> skywalkertx: can you run commands in your current game session? If you can, do this: /gamemode 1
#1673 [15:48] <VincentVJ> I"m getting really bad chunk errors... Do you think it's safer not to play any older worlds? Or would they not be affected by horrible chunk errors?
#1674 [15:48] <tyteen4a03> VincentVJ: you're getting them from where?
#1675 [15:48] <skywalkertx> Okay, I will try that.
#1676 [15:48] <VincentVJ> What do you mean?
#1677 [15:48] <tyteen4a03> VincentVJ: where do you get these errors?
#1678 [15:49] <VincentVJ> I'm not seeing any actual error codes.
#1679 [15:49] <VincentVJ> Hold on a sec. I'll get you an image
#1680 [15:50] <skywalkertx> tyteen4a03: I did that, now what?
#1681 [15:50] <VincentVJ> http://tinypic.com/r/17z980/6
#1682 [15:50] <tyteen4a03> skywalkertx: try if you can edit blocks and have them saved again
#1683 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> VincentVJ: you're on 1.3, right?
#1684 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> and not
#1685 [15:51] <VincentVJ> Yep
#1686 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> VincentVJ: Singleplayer?
#1687 [15:51] <VincentVJ> yep
#1688 [15:51] <raju> when i start my game i get an error that says bad car drivers what does that mean
#1689 [15:51] <tyteen4a03> raju: you need to update your graphic card drivers
#1690 [15:52] <VincentVJ> There are other instances of completely flat walls. Vines can grow down them. and trees will be cut off at the top.
#1691 [15:52] <woodtech> what kinda frustrates me in mc 1.3.1 is that you have to publish the game to the LAN (and activate the cheats while doing so) to activate the cheats
#1692 [15:52] <tyteen4a03> woodtech: that is not true
#1693 [15:52] <woodtech> at least, if you didn't start a game with cheats anabled
#1694 [15:52] <raju> how do i do that
#1695 [15:52] <DopeGhoti> Bad car drivers? You need to hire a new chauffeur.
#1696 [15:52] <tyteen4a03> woodtech: oh yeah, that's right
#1697 [15:52] <woodtech> *enabled
#1698 [15:52] <skywalkertx> tyteen4a03: I did what you said, the blocks still did not save.
#1699 [15:52] <raju> how do i do that
#1700 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: any ideas about skywalkertx's case?
#1701 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> upgraded to 1.3.1, player info gets saved but block changes do not
#1702 [15:53] <tyteen4a03> ??> raju win/dxdiag/bat
#1703 [15:53] <VoxelHead> raju: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1704 [15:53] <VoxelHead> raju: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#1706 [15:54] <DopeGhoti> skywalkertx: Have you tried generating a new world after upgrading?
#1707 [15:54] <GlitterGirl> When I tried to make my server, ops.txt and white-list.txt didnt upload, anyone know how to fix it?
#1708 [15:55] <tyteen4a03> GlitterGirl: Turn off the server before updating both files
#1709 [15:55] <DopeGhoti> GlitterGirl: they should be generated the first time the server is run.
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#1712 [15:55] <GlitterGirl> Dope, they werent
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#1714 [15:56] <GlitterGirl> the first time i started my server it didnt upload, Are they supposed to be in a special folder perhaps?
#1715 [15:56] <DopeGhoti> no, they'll appear in the same directory as the server JAR file.
#1716 [15:56] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: I shall return to my bed once again, raju is yours
#1717 [15:57] <GlitterGirl> Dope thats where they are but when i ran my server they failed to upload it says
#1718 [15:57] <GlitterGirl> I have no idea why :/
#1719 [15:57] <tyteen4a03> I am having insomnias these days... meh
#1720 [15:57] <DopeGhoti> what means were you usung to upload them?
#1721 [15:58] <GlitterGirl> well im using mac , so I just put in some command to start the server, and when it started, they didnt upload
#1722 [15:58] <tyteen4a03> GlitterGirl: Are you hosting the server on your mac or on a remote server?
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#1724 [15:59] <GlitterGirl> Im using portmap
#1725 [15:59] <GlitterGirl> but its my ip so idk..
#1726 [15:59] <GlitterGirl> I just followed the istructions on some yt vid :/
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#1729 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> GlitterGirl: Ignore any instructions the youtube video gave you and follow this one instead: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Mac_OS_X_Instructions
#1730 [16:01] <tyteen4a03> GlitterGirl: also uninstall portmap, it's not going to help
#1731 [16:02] <tyteen4a03> GlitterGirl: if you don't understand a part of the insturctions, ask up
#1732 [16:02] <tyteen4a03> *ask here
#1733 [16:02] <GlitterGirl> Ok then. Thanks tyteen4a03 :)
#1734 [16:02] <skywalkertx> Hi, since I updated to 1.3.1 minecraft will only save the player configuration, not the blocks or chests.
#1735 [16:03] <skywalkertx> Anyone got any ideas?
#1736 [16:03] <tyteen4a03> skywalkertx: DopeGhoti might have an idea
#1737 [16:03] <tyteen4a03> except he disappeared into work I think
#1738 [16:03] <skywalkertx> dang
#1739 [16:04] <skywalkertx> tyteen4a03: I actually have found other cases where it sounds like people have the same problem.
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#1741 [16:05] <Nick> Hello?
#1742 [16:05] <Guest16002> ?
#1743 [16:06] <woodtech> I think you're using a registered nick ;-)
#1744 [16:07] <raju> ok so i downloaded and saved i dont know what a textfile is like i think i did it
#1745 [16:07] <VincentVJ> Also, how do you turn on or off large bio?
#1746 [16:07] <VincentVJ> Biome*
#1747 [16:07] <raju> but not sure
#1748 [16:09] <raju> helo
#1749 [16:09] <raju> hello
#1750 [16:11] <raju> anybody know
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#1752 [16:16] <Luigy> hello, is there any way of "dont update my minecraft"? because i had a lot of mods, and i dont want to lose them. can anybody help me please?
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#1754 [16:17] <raju> here is the link http://pastebin.com/MHCcN1dF now what <dopeghoti>
#1755 [16:18] <Morrolan> Luigy - When you log in, it'll ask you whether it should update or not.
#1756 [16:19] <Luigy> oh shit, i think my brother did that
#1757 [16:19] <Luigy> omg
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#1759 [16:19] <jlkkljh> im back
#1760 [16:19] <Morrolan> Luigy - Then you will have to either wait for the mods to update, or use a tool like McNostalgia to downgrade and install the mods again, I'm afraid.
#1761 [16:20] <jlkkljh> i figured out how to fix it
#1762 [16:20] <Morrolan> raju - Argh, that graphics card of yours is pretty weak.
#1763 [16:20] <jlkkljh> the black screens error
#1764 [16:20] <jlkkljh> screen*
#1765 [16:20] <raju> hey anyone what do i do
#1766 [16:20] <Luigy> McNostalgia?
#1767 [16:21] <Morrolan> It's a tool which you can use to downgrade Minecraft.
#1768 [16:21] <jlkkljh> just delete .minecraft folder completely
#1769 [16:21] <Luigy> but
#1770 [16:21] <jlkkljh> and reinstall
#1771 [16:21] <Morrolan> Luigy - You'll have to reinstall your mods, yea.
#1772 [16:21] <Luigy> i have a lot of mods
#1773 [16:21] <Luigy> oh
#1774 [16:21] <Morrolan> Luigy - If your brother updated, they're gone now. But you can reinstall them, if you remember which ones you had.
#1775 [16:21] <jlkkljh> no not what i meant
#1776 [16:21] <Morrolan> jlkkljh - Good to hear that it works for you now. :)
#1777 [16:22] <jlkkljh> it is not working yet
#1778 [16:22] <Morrolan> Heh, what's happening now?
#1779 [16:22] <Luigy> so, i delete my .minecraft, and then?
#1780 [16:22] <raju> <morrolan> what do i do to play
#1781 [16:22] <jlkkljh> i still get a black screen aft er i restart mc even if i restart the comp
#1782 [16:23] <Morrolan> Luigy - That wasn't for you, he just described what he did. You have to either wait for the mods to update, or use McNostalgia to downgrade. :)
#1783 [16:23] <Luigy> oh
#1784 [16:23] <Morrolan> raju - Err, you _could_ try to update drivers, but it's doubtful that it'll work.
#1785 [16:23] <Luigy> ok, thank you.
#1786 [16:23] <Morrolan> raju - Let me fetch you a link.
#1787 [16:23] <raju> thanx
#1788 [16:24] <jlkkljh> but to fix this i have to delete mc folder completely as in <shift>+<del>
#1789 [16:24] <jlkkljh> and then re download but it oonly works after 1st boot of mc
#1790 [16:25] <jlkkljh> mc client ver:: 1.3.1
#1791 [16:25] <Morrolan> raju - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20598&ProdId=2991&lang=deu&OSVersion=Windows%207%20(32%26nbsp%3Bbit)*&DownloadType=Treiber is the one you want. (The download button is on the top right)
#1792 [16:25] <jlkkljh> mor what was that link for
#1793 [16:25] <raju> thanx
#1794 [16:26] <Morrolan> jlkkljh - It wasn't directed at you.
#1795 [16:26] <Morrolan> raju - Good luck with it. If it works - great, but chances are it won't.
#1796 [16:26] <Morrolan> The graphics card of your laptop is just much too weak for any game other than tetris.
#1797 [16:26] <jlkkljh> ii know but to update drivers?
#1798 [16:26] <xales> ??> jlkkljh only/you
#1799 [16:26] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (only/you) Moved to irc/multitasking
#1800 [16:26] <xales> :|
#1801 [16:26] <xales> ??> jlkkljh irc/multitasking
#1802 [16:26] <VoxelHead> jlkkljh: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1803 [16:26] <Morrolan> Yes, that was a link to drivers for intel's integrated graphics drivers, jlkkljh.
#1804 [16:27] <jlkkljh> ok
#1805 [16:27] <Morrolan> As for you - whenever you shut down Minecraft, you have to delete the .minecraft folder afterwards to get it working again? oo
#1806 [16:27] <jlkkljh> i am gonna try that
#1807 [16:27] <Morrolan> NO.
#1808 [16:27] <Morrolan> Gosh, those drivers aren't for you, but for raju.
#1809 [16:27] <jlkkljh> real quick
#1810 [16:27] <jlkkljh> i have intel drivers?
#1811 [16:27] <xales> jlkkljh: No.
#1812 [16:27] <Morrolan> Maybe?
#1813 [16:27] <xales> Morrolan was talking to *somebody else*
#1814 [16:27] <raju> wait a sec
#1815 [16:28] <xales> That link is not for you.
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#1817 [16:28] <jlkkljh> ok i know it wasnt directed at me
#1818 [16:28] <jlkkljh> ok?
#1819 [16:29] <GlimmerGirl> Ok so I did what the wiki said about setting up a minecraft server, but now idk how to get all the files i need for my server back, like ops.txt, server.prooperties, etc
#1820 [16:29] <jlkkljh> but i am saying i think i have intel drivers/cards
#1821 [16:29] <xales> GlimmerGirl: Run the server and they will be automatically generated.
#1822 [16:29] <xales> jlkkljh: That has nothing to do with your problem.
#1823 [16:29] <jlkkljh> ok
#1824 [16:29] <GlimmerGirl> oh ok thanks xales
#1825 [16:29] <jlkkljh> i hav 2 mods installed at the moment
#1826 [16:30] <Morrolan> jlkkljh - Feel free to update your drivers, but then you'll have to make sure you get the correct ones.
#1827 [16:30] <Morrolan> Err, does it work without mods?
#1828 [16:30] <jlkkljh> for 1st time
#1829 [16:30] <Morrolan> Because if yes, then those mods most likely aren't installed properly / aren't working with 1.3.1 yet.
#1830 [16:31] <jlkkljh> and then when i restart minecraft the client is completely black after first time
#1831 [16:31] <jlkkljh> hang on imma try som
#1832 [16:32] <jlkkljh> my java ver is 6.33 btw
#1833 [16:32] <xales> jlkkljh: Try running Minecraft *without* mods.
#1834 [16:33] <jlkkljh> thats what imma try also it turns black after a sys message pops up saying do you want ...... to make changes to your computer
#1835 [16:35] <jlkkljh> it was the mods
#1836 [16:35] <Morrolan> Then they are most likely not updated for 1.3.1
#1837 [16:35] <jlkkljh> the ones i had was Minimap-131,OptiFine_1.2.5_HD_C6
#1838 [16:35] <Morrolan> Really, before you install ANY mod, read through its thread, make sure it's updated, make sure it's compatible.
#1839 [16:35] <Morrolan> Well, there you go.
#1840 [16:36] <Morrolan> OptiFine_1.2.5
#1841 [16:36] <jlkkljh> and i just noticed that too
#1842 [16:36] <Morrolan> WHat does the "1.2.5" stand for, in your opinion?
#1843 [16:36] <Morrolan> I'm sure there's a big note in the thread.
#1844 [16:36] <jlkkljh> mc client ver
#1845 [16:36] <Morrolan> Exactly.
#1846 [16:36] <GlimmerGirl> On my mac, When i try to start my server i get an error
#1847 [16:36] <jlkkljh> i know i just noticed it was for 1.2.5
#1848 [16:37] <Morrolan> GlimmerGirl - What is that error?
#1849 [16:37] <jlkkljh> thanks to all of you guys that helped tho
#1850 [16:37] <GlimmerGirl> Error occurred during initialization of VM Incompatible minimum and maximum heap sizes specified logout
#1851 [16:37] <Morrolan> Huh, what command did you use to start it?
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#1853 [16:37] <jj> hello
#1854 [16:37] <GlimmerGirl> The start.command it said to do in the wiki
#1855 [16:37] <jlkkljh> it needs at least 2 - 1.5 gig ram
#1856 [16:38] <jj> hello
#1857 [16:38] <GlimmerGirl> Im pretty sure i gave it ram
#1858 [16:38] <jlkkljh> go to crucial.com
#1859 [16:38] <jj> ...
#1860 [16:38] <Morrolan> GlimmerGirl - Do you know how much RAM your computer has?
#1861 [16:38] <GlimmerGirl> How do i find out?
#1862 [16:38] <jj> can anyone help
#1863 [16:38] <jlkkljh> i know run the scan
#1864 [16:38] <jlkkljh> glimmer girl imma give you a link
#1865 [16:38] <jlkkljh> ok
#1866 [16:39] <Morrolan> GlimmerGirl - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2353?viewlocale=en_US
#1867 [16:39] <jj> ...
#1868 [16:39] <Morrolan> GlimmerGirl - "To see how much RAM is installed, choose About This Mac from the Apple Menu. The Memory field specifies the amount of RAM installed in the computer"
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#1870 [16:39] <wogus> hellou
#1871 [16:39] <Morrolan> jj - Just ask your question, and wait for a response.
#1872 [16:39] <jj> hello...
#1873 [16:39] <jlkkljh> or that works
#1874 [16:39] <jj> oh sorry i get really impatient:)
#1875 [16:40] <jlkkljh> i used to use libnux that was fast now
#1876 [16:40] <jlkkljh> linux*
#1877 [16:40] <jj> umm i bought minecraft 3 days ago and it doenst wor
#1878 [16:40] <wogus> could anyone help me disable creeper-block-damage on worldguard? wanted to do this to the entire world and not just some selected area
#1879 [16:40] <GlimmerGirl> Yeah I think i have 2 ram
#1880 [16:40] <Morrolan> jj - How did you buy it? Credit card? PayPal?
#1881 [16:40] <GlimmerGirl> :/
#1882 [16:40] <jj> paypal
#1883 [16:40] <Morrolan> wogus - Try #sk89q respectively the wiki on wiki.sk89q.com
#1884 [16:40] <GlimmerGirl> 2gb
#1885 [16:40] <wogus> thanks!
#1886 [16:40] <jlkkljh> well imma goo... c ya
#1887 [16:40] <Morrolan> GlimmerGirl - Then you might want to change the "1G" in the command you use to start the server to "512M"
#1888 [16:41] <jj> paypal
#1889 [16:41] <Morrolan> jj - Patience.
#1890 [16:41] <GlimmerGirl> Ok
#1891 [16:41] <jj> sorry
#1892 [16:41] <Morrolan> jj - Did you use funds on your PayPal account, or a linked credit card?
#1893 [16:41] <jj> funds
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#1895 [16:41] <wogus> jj - how does it "not work"
#1896 [16:42] <jj> dont know it says user not premium
#1897 [16:42] <wogus> as in what message do you get?
#1898 [16:42] <wogus> has your money left your account?
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#1900 [16:42] <jj> yes
#1901 [16:42] <GlimmerGirl> It worked morro thanks !! :D
#1902 [16:42] <Luigy> hey, about McNostalgia, what version do I have to install to downgrade to 1.2.5?
#1903 [16:42] <Morrolan> GlimmerGirl - Sure thing. :)
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#1905 [16:43] <Morrolan> Luigy - Err, haven't used it in a while, read its thread I'd say. ^^
#1906 [16:43] <gatorade43> okay i have a problem
#1907 [16:43] <Morrolan> jj - Your PayPal account was charged the money?
#1908 [16:43] <jj> yes
#1909 [16:43] <gatorade43> i keep getting internal server errors
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#1911 [16:43] <gatorade43> is there a reason why
#1912 [16:43] <gatorade43> and how can i fix it
#1913 [16:43] <Morrolan> gatorade43 - What version is your client? And what version is the server you're connecting to?
#1914 [16:44] <Morrolan> jj - In the PayPal payment history, is the payment listed as completed, and do you have a transaction ID there?
#1915 [16:44] <gatorade43> im playing on 1.3.1 and im playing single player
#1916 [16:44] <gatorade43> not multiplayer
#1917 [16:44] <jj> yes i do
#1918 [16:44] <Luigy> (Luigy) hey, about McNostalgia, what version do I have to install to downgrade to 1.2.5?
#1919 [16:44] <Luigy> back
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#1921 [16:44] <jlkkljh1> try to go to crucial . com
#1922 [16:44] <Morrolan> Luigy - Read through its thread. ;)
#1923 [16:45] <Morrolan> Just grab the most recent version, if in doubt.
#1924 [16:45] <Luigy> on mcforum, yea? ok
#1925 [16:45] <Morrolan> jlkkljh1 - Huh?
#1926 [16:45] <jlkkljh1> glimergirl
#1927 [16:45] <jj> i have the order number from minecraft receipt
#1928 [16:45] <jlkkljh1> she left i didnt realize
#1929 [16:45] <Morrolan> jj - In this case I'll have to redirect you to this support article: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1930 [16:45] <jj> thanks
#1931 [16:45] <Morrolan> Especially the last paragraph.
#1932 [16:46] <Morrolan> However, before you contact them, make SURE that your PayPal account was charged the money.
#1933 [16:46] <Morrolan> And don't forget to include the transaction ID when contacting Mojang.
#1934 [16:48] <gatorade43> Morrolan - im playing on version 1.3.1 and im trying to play singleplayer not multiplayer
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#1936 [16:48] <Sarkynin> Hi everyone!
#1937 [16:48] * GlimmerGirl [GlimmerGirl@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#1938 [16:48] <wogus> hello!
#1939 [16:48] <GlimmerGirl> what should i put as my servers ip in the server.properties?
#1940 [16:48] <Sarkynin> I never did any vechs map, and, uh, does someone want to make Sea Of Flames II with me?
#1941 [16:48] <wogus> GlimmerGirl nothing =)
#1942 [16:48] <GlimmerGirl> Then how do i get my friends to join me, what do i give them
#1943 [16:48] <wogus> your ip
#1944 [16:48] <GlimmerGirl> Oh
#1945 [16:49] <GlimmerGirl> Ok
#1946 [16:49] <wogus> http://www.whatismyip.com/
#1947 [16:49] <wogus> that number there
#1948 [16:50] <Sarkynin> Nobody can help me in sea of flames II? I never did any Vechs's map and I don' want to begin alone... :/
#1949 [16:50] <wogus> I'm trying to figure out how to disable creeper block damage
#1950 [16:51] <Sarkynin> I think it's only possible with plugins
#1951 [16:51] <Sarkynin> or mods
#1952 [16:52] <gatorade43> what versinon of minecraft are you guys running?
#1953 [16:52] <|Kiikun|> wogus: mods. bukkit plugin for server, or zombe's boom for SP
#1954 [16:53] <wogus> I'm trying safe creeper since worldguard didn't help =(
#1955 [16:54] <wogus> yay
#1956 [16:54] <wogus> safe creeper worked
#1957 [16:54] <Morrolan> "/region flag __global__ creeper-explosion deny", wogus.
#1958 [16:54] <Morrolan> Will make WG deny creeper-explosions worldwide.
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#1960 [16:55] <wogus> I got safecreeper running
#1961 [16:55] <robertnumber1> hello
#1962 [16:56] <robertnumber1> when i installed the minecraft to many items mod 1.3.1 correctly
#1963 [16:56] <Morrolan> Yees?
#1964 [16:56] <robertnumber1> i opend minecraft and the screen went black
#1965 [16:56] <Morrolan> Then you either did not install it properly, or the mod crashed.
#1966 [16:56] <robertnumber1> how do i fix that
#1967 [16:56] <robertnumber1> oh
#1968 [16:56] <Morrolan> Contact the mod's developer. To get a clean Minecraft installation: Options -> Force update.
#1969 [16:56] <robertnumber1> well it as just realeased
#1970 [16:57] <robertnumber1> and how do i do that
#1971 [16:57] <robertnumber1> do they have a phone #
#1972 [16:58] <Morrolan> The.. mod's developer? Doubtful.
#1973 [16:59] <Morrolan> Well, he will have one, but there's no reason he'll offer phone support.
#1974 [16:59] <Morrolan> How about posting in the mod's thread?
#1975 [16:59] <robertnumber1> ok ill try that
#1976 [16:59] <Morrolan> In the meantime, start the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual to get a clean Minecraft installation.
#1977 [16:59] <robertnumber1> how do i force an update
#1978 [16:59] <Morrolan> <@Morrolan> In the meantime, start the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual to get a clean Minecraft installation.
#1979 [16:59] * Morrolan likes to repeat himself
#1979 [16:59] <woodtech> :-)
#1980 [17:00] <Morrolan> <@Morrolan> <@Morrolan> In the meantime, start the launcher -> Options -> Force update -> Log in as usual to get a clean Minecraft installation.
#1981 [17:00] * Morrolan just did it again, because he VERY much enjoys it.
#1981 [17:00] <woodtech> as long as it isn't spammish :p
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#1983 [17:00] <Morrolan> Oh, I won't kick myself for spamming, don't worry about that. ;D
#1984 [17:00] <robertnumber1> im gonna go bye
#1985 [17:01] <woodtech> :-D
#1986 [17:01] <Morrolan> I hope he's ashamed of himself.
#1987 [17:01] <woodtech> maybe just bad timing
#1988 [17:01] <Morrolan> Maybe.
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#1990 [17:05] <Rmoellerg> Do I need your permission to post and monitize minecraft videos on YouTube
#1991 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> We're not Mojang. We're community-run support.
#1992 [17:06] <GreyVulpine> Post, yes. Monitize, I don't know..
#1993 [17:06] <woodtech> Certainly for mods, not sure about content, but they are still protected by mojang
#1994 [17:07] <woodtech> (though that protection is very liberal afaik)
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#1996 [17:07] <Rmoellerg> Where Can I get the permission to post it
#1997 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Rmoellerg - Read: http://www.minecraft.net/terms
#1998 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> Specifically:
#1999 [17:08] <GreyVulpine> "Other than commercial use (unless specifically authorized by us in our brand and assets usage guidelines - for instance you are allowed to put ads on your YouTube videos containing Minecraft footage), you're free to do whatever you want with screenshots and videos of the game, but don't just rip art resources and pass them around, that's no fun."
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#2002 [17:19] <Mel> Does anybody know why the minecraft demo won't play on certain computers?
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#2004 [17:19] <woodtech> Mel: I have no reports of working demo's yet
#2005 [17:20] <woodtech> (by reading the wiki)
#2006 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> http://mcupdate.tumblr.com/
#2007 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> "+ New launcher with “Play Demo” button if not premium user"
#2008 [17:20] <Mel> I tried that, but my screen goes to something that says, "Done Loading," when there is just a tiny chunk of green not loaded
#2009 [17:20] <GreyVulpine> Ah. operating system?
#2010 [17:21] <woodtech> Mel: I've saw many players complaining about that feature
#2011 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> Think I might know why.
#2012 [17:21] * woodtech looks up in the wiki
#2012 [17:21] <Mel> I have a relatively new PC with 1 terabyte of hard drive and 6gb of memory.
#2013 [17:21] <GreyVulpine> woodtech - What is your operating system?
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#2015 [17:22] <GreyVulpine> Are you running Windows? Mac? Some flavor of linux?
#2016 [17:22] <woodtech> GreyVulpine: couldn't test it hear, but assuming from others, the demo just doesn't work
#2017 [17:22] <Mel> Windows
#2018 [17:22] <woodtech> *here
#2019 [17:23] <GreyVulpine> Mel - Version of windows? XP? Vista? 7?
#2020 [17:23] <Mel> Windows 7
#2021 [17:25] <Morrolan> For the record, demo works fine over here.
#2022 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Alright. Go to your start menu. In the search bar, type in: %userprofile%
#2023 [17:25] <GreyVulpine> Press enter. Tell me if the name of the folder has a ! mark in it
#2024 [17:26] <woodtech> Note: Clicking on demo mode without the game installed will not work, and instead freeze at game updating and not download. (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history#1.3.1)
#2025 [17:26] <woodtech> hmm, dunno if that helps
#2026 [17:26] <woodtech> so it looks like it should work
#2027 [17:27] <Mel> umm all I see is my own file called, "Mel" with no exclamation points
#2028 [17:28] <GreyVulpine> Hmm. Not that then.
#2029 [17:29] <Mel> I already tried uninstalling then re-installing it too.
#2030 [17:29] <GreyVulpine> Looks like it's a common issue. Unfortunately there's nothing neither we, nor you, can do.
#2031 [17:29] <woodtech> now I'm really hoping there would be a fix release very soon
#2032 [17:29] <woodtech> I'm only hearing bugs today
#2033 [17:29] <woodtech> which is a bit expected
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#2035 [17:30] <Mel> ok thank you for your help :)
#2036 [17:30] <tgillins> i need help
#2037 [17:30] <woodtech> tgillins: then ask!
#2038 [17:31] <tgillins> we purchased an order with order number c20ba287dad04e41a754746b1f864f85 but we did not get an email confirmation
#2039 [17:31] <Morrolan> *sigh*
#2040 [17:31] <Morrolan> Don't post your transaction ID anywhere public.
#2041 [17:31] <Morrolan> Apart from that, none here works for Mojang, so nothing _we_ can do.
#2042 [17:32] <Morrolan> Did your account actually get charged the money though?
#2043 [17:32] <tgillins> i have know idea until the charge clears the bank
#2044 [17:33] <Morrolan> If you used a credit card then chances are that your credit card provider blocked the payment, since it's an international one.
#2045 [17:33] <Morrolan> Might want to call them, and ask whether that is the case.
#2046 [17:33] <tgillins> ok thanks
#2047 [17:33] <tgillins> bye
#2048 [17:34] * Morrolan tries to think of a *rolleyes* smiley
#2048 [17:35] <Morrolan> Internet suggests @@ 8-| c.c 9_9
#2049 [17:35] <Morrolan> I guess 9_9 will work.
#2050 [17:35] <woodtech> I'm already thinking at that one guy from blender that can smile like crazy
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#2060 [18:00] <zombi_199> hay how long dos it take for your account to go premium i bought the game withe a debit card
#2061 [18:01] <Morrolan> IF you don't get it within af ew hours, then chances are your credit card provider blocked the payment since it's an international one. (Fraud prevention).
#2062 [18:01] <Morrolan> Might want to call them, and ask whether that is the case.
#2063 [18:01] <Morrolan> within a few*
#2064 [18:02] <zombi_199> no it wouldn't be blocked its a prepay-ed card
#2065 [18:03] <Morrolan> That is your issue, right there.
#2066 [18:03] <Morrolan> Prepaid cards have a VERY high chance of getting blocked.
#2067 [18:03] <Morrolan> Sadly, most credit card providers don't allow you to unlock prepaid cards for international transfers.
#2068 [18:03] <Morrolan> Your best bet is to use a "real" credit card.
#2069 [18:05] <lukegb> zombi_199: is it one of those prepaid cards where you can check the transaction history?
#2070 [18:05] <lukegb> e.g. green dot/vanilla
#2071 [18:05] * Morrolan sits down, to learn about prepaid credit cards
#2071 [18:06] <Morrolan> Mr professor, sir, I think mine's strawberry flavour!
#2072 [18:06] <Morrolan> Or maybe that was just the icecream I spilled yesterday.
#2073 [18:06] <lukegb> Morrolan: I occasionally use prepaid credit cards... to use on US online stores for stuff. Like Steam if the prices are cheaper.
#2074 [18:07] <lukegb> From the sounds of it, though, zombi_199 has wandered off
#2075 [18:07] <Morrolan> Oh, don't pay attention to me, I'm just having my obligatory silly moments. :)
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#2077 [18:07] <Morrolan> (They keep me sane)
#2078 [18:07] <lukegb|mib> Aww.
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#2080 [18:08] <lukegb|mib> Mibbit used to display people's useragents if they were logged in and you were using Mibbit, iirc...
#2081 [18:12] <zombi_199> to answer ur question morrolan yes it is
#2082 [18:13] * Morrolan prods lukegb
#2082 [18:13] <lukegb> Ah.
#2083 [18:13] <Morrolan> Think that response is for you. :)
#2084 [18:13] <lukegb> zombi_199: can you check the transaction history to see if they've taken the money out of the account?
#2085 [18:14] <zombi_199> ok brb
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#2092 [18:59] <Helloman892> Hiya guys, I come with an issue this time :/ http://hastebin.com/somorisavu.pl
#2093 [18:59] <lutzee> Corrupt world
#2094 [19:00] <Helloman892> What, on a MP server?
#2095 [19:00] <lutzee> Yes
#2096 [19:00] <Helloman892> Alright. I thought it might've been that, just making sure :D Thanks.
#2097 [19:01] <lutzee> Helloman892, you have stone where a chest used to be, one thing thinks its stone, another thinks it's still a chest :D
#2098 [19:02] <Helloman892> Got it.
#2099 [19:02] <lutzee> Tip normally it can be fixable with mcedit ;)
#2100 [19:03] <Helloman892> It's not my server, unfortunately.
#2101 [19:03] <Helloman892> Ok, just re-logged, I'm fine.
#2102 [19:04] <Helloman892> Thanks for the confirmation, lutzee.
#2103 [19:04] <Helloman892> Thanks for the confirmation, lutzee.
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#2106 [19:07] <bmnccrazed> when im playing im just walking around, then i get the message saving chunks and my game goes black, any tips?
#2107 [19:07] <bmnccrazed> when im playing im just walking around, then i get the message saving chunks and my game goes black, any tips?
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#2114 [19:15] <Pop_goes_the_Weasel> my minecraft is really slow and when i click multiplayer it says scanning for LAN world and it keeps saying that
#2115 [19:16] <Pop_goes_the_Weasel> *worlds
#2116 [19:17] <Pop_goes_the_Weasel> Hello?
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#2121 [19:34] <jediknight7> for some reason my minecraft crashes
#2122 [19:34] <lutzee> jediknight7, when does this occur exactly?
#2123 [19:34] <jediknight7> helo
#2124 [19:35] <jediknight7> when im playing
#2125 [19:35] <lutzee> hmm
#2126 [19:35] <lutzee> Look on your desktop, is there any files named hs_err_pid ?
#2127 [19:36] <jediknight7> it says disconnected by server internal server error even though im playing single player
#2128 [19:36] <jediknight7> theres no error log
#2129 [19:36] <lutzee> oh god
#2130 [19:36] <lutzee> Okay, the latest version of minecraft runs single player using an "embeded" server
#2131 [19:37] <jediknight7> but why does it crash
#2132 [19:37] <lutzee> I don't know without an error log,
#2133 [19:37] <jediknight7> is there anything i can do
#2134 [19:37] <jediknight7> to prevent it
#2135 [19:37] <lutzee> I'm not sure without an error
#2136 [19:37] <jediknight7> k
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#2138 [19:37] <lutzee> And i'm not sure about getting an error log from the embeded server
#2139 [19:38] <jediknight7> ill go check will you be here in 5 minutes
#2140 [19:38] <jediknight7> (on different computer)
#2141 [19:38] <bob> i cant update to 1.3.1 on mac 2 witch i am using what do i need to do
#2142 [19:38] <Guest13434> i cant update to 1.3.1 on mac 2 witch i am using what do i need to do
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#2144 [19:39] <Tim> Hello?
#2145 [19:39] <Guest13434> i cant update to 1.3.1 on mac 2 witch i am using what do i need to do
#2146 [19:39] <lutzee> jediknight7, you sure all it says is disconnected by server internal server error?
#2147 [19:39] <Tim> ummm u talking to me?
#2148 [19:39] <jediknight7> yep
#2149 [19:39] <lutzee> Guest13434, what happens exactly?
#2150 [19:40] <Tim> whos the helper here?
#2151 [19:40] <jediknight7> thats all it says
#2152 [19:40] <Guest13434> it says fate errer occured when i try to update
#2153 [19:40] <Guest13434> fatel error
#2154 [19:40] <jediknight7> lutzee is the helper
#2155 [19:40] <lutzee> Tim atm i'm the only one who seems to be arround
#2156 [19:40] <GBlock> Oh! Hey 13434.
#2157 [19:40] <Tim> everytime i try to fly in creative mode it says internet error
#2158 [19:41] <Tim> i hate
#2159 [19:41] <Tim> tit
#2160 [19:41] <GBlock> That problem too; 'Demo' button is sorta greyed out, right?
#2161 [19:41] <Tim> it
#2162 [19:41] <Guest13434> it says fate errer occured when i try to update
#2163 [19:41] <jediknight7> why is 1.3.1 so buggy
#2164 [19:41] <GBlock> ... or not. (>_>) (<_<)
#2165 [19:41] <lutzee> gah i'm not a mac user >.>
#2166 [19:41] <Tim> and my minecraft crashes alot more with the 1.3.1 update
#2167 [19:41] <lutzee> jediknight7, it's just come out
#2168 [19:41] <Guest13434> lutzee it says fatel error occured when i try ot update to 1.3.1 i am using mu mac
#2169 [19:42] <GBlock> Guest13434: Running 10.8?
#2170 [19:42] <jediknight7> will they fix the bugs later on
#2171 [19:42] <lutzee> jediknight7, yes ofcourse
#2172 [19:42] <jediknight7> k
#2173 [19:42] <Guest13434> running lion 10.7.4
#2174 [19:42] <Tim> later on lmafo what genuis cant see you cant even fly in creative mode
#2175 [19:42] <GBlock> Ah, me too; so that means you don't have to twiddle with Gatekeeper...
#2176 [19:43] <Tim> when will they fix all these dam bugs
#2177 [19:43] <Tim> i cant even fly in creative mode!!
#2178 [19:43] <GBlock> ... hmm, well, generally the advice for this kinda thing is like deleting your ~/Library/minecraft/bin/ folder.
#2179 [19:44] <GBlock> No guarantees that it'll work though --- lots of people have been having problems with 1.3.1.
#2180 [19:44] <Guest13434> i cant find the bin
#2181 [19:44] <jediknight7> lutzee, almost got it
#2182 [19:44] <Tim> You want me to, deleteing my bin folder?
#2183 [19:44] <Tim> ive done that
#2184 [19:44] <Tim> donest work
#2185 [19:44] <GBlock> Apple makes your user-library hidden by default; I can guide you there.
#2186 [19:44] <Tim> Im not useing apple....
#2187 [19:44] <lutzee> ??> tim only/you
#2188 [19:44] <Guest13434> ok what do i do
#2189 [19:44] <VoxelHead> tim: (only/you) Moved to irc/multitasking
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#2191 [19:44] <lutzee> o.o
#2192 [19:44] <GBlock> Open up a Finder window.
#2193 [19:45] <Tim> hello?
#2194 [19:45] <lutzee> oh
#2195 [19:45] <Tim> anyone going to help me?
#2196 [19:45] <lutzee> ??> tim irc/multitasking
#2197 [19:45] <VoxelHead> tim: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#2198 [19:45] <Guest13434> ok what next?
#2199 [19:45] <Tim> okay bot clam down
#2200 [19:45] <Guest13434> gblock what next
#2201 [19:46] <GBlock> Press Shift+Command+G and paste this: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/
#2202 [19:46] <Tim> God you people cant even help
#2203 [19:46] <lutzee> ?? mac/reinst
#2204 [19:46] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2205 [19:46] <VoxelHead> mac/reinst: To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2206 [19:46] <Rurouni> perhaps calm down tim and be patient?
#2207 [19:46] <GBlock> VoxelHead: Library is hidden by default post 10.6!
#2208 [19:47] <lutzee> GBlock, VoxelHead is a bot
#2209 [19:47] <GBlock> -.- Ah.
#2210 [19:47] <Tim> ive reinstalled minecraft ive done everything i cant fly, my game crashes! and craftbukkit is makeing the minecraft server slow!
#2211 [19:47] <lutzee> ?? mac/.minecraft/lion
#2212 [19:47] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft/lion: Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
#2213 [19:47] <lutzee> ^ it allready knows the solution
#2214 [19:47] <Tim> why cant minecraft fix them
#2215 [19:48] <GBlock> Guest13434: Anyhow, you're now in the folder where Minecraft puts its stuff.
#2216 [19:48] <lutzee> Tim, bukkit for 1.3.1 is only a dev build and is very buggy
#2217 [19:48] <lutzee> Also bukkit is not part of mojang
#2218 [19:48] <Rurouni> ahh that could explain what is going on with whats happening to me
#2219 [19:48] <Tim> ive install couple mods but they dont hurt minecraft
#2220 [19:48] <Tim> so im out of options
#2221 [19:49] <Tim> i guess i have to wait for the lazy asses at mojang to fix minecraft
#2222 [19:49] <GBlock> Guest13434: Push come to shove, delete all the contents of the /minecraft/ folder; naturally, you may want to save your worlds.
#2223 [19:50] <lutzee> Worlds are stores in the /saves folder in the minecraft folder
#2224 [19:50] <Tim> wtf
#2225 [19:50] <GBlock> Guest13434: But just start with /minecraft/bin --- that seems to be the go-to method on the forums.
#2226 [19:50] <Tim> This sucks no ones helps or responds
#2227 [19:50] <Guest13434> gblock when i past it says the folder cant be found
#2228 [19:50] <lutzee> Tim, atm i've not heard of that problem
#2229 [19:50] <Rurouni> calm down and be patient tim
#2230 [19:50] <GBlock> Paste the string here.
#2231 [19:50] <lutzee> However if you have mods installed that could break something
#2232 [19:50] <Guest13434> what?
#2233 [19:50] <Tim> Why is mojang so lazy?
#2234 [19:51] <Tim> They cant fix any major bugs
#2235 [19:51] <Wug> Tim: you say you get an error message when you try to fly
#2236 [19:51] <Wug> post an error log
#2237 [19:51] <Rurouni> yes the company who develops the game in and out is lazy
#2238 [19:51] <lutzee> Tim, as of yet, you are the only person i have spoken to with this problem
#2239 [19:51] <Tim> yup
#2240 [19:51] <Rurouni> nice logic
#2241 [19:51] <GBlock> This command should work: ~Library/Application Support/minecraft/
#2242 [19:51] <jediknight7> where do i put the error log lutzee?
#2243 [19:51] <Tim> In 1.2.5 it was fine
#2244 [19:51] <GBlock> SHOOT
#2245 [19:51] <Wug> Tim: i dont care when it worked
#2246 [19:51] <GBlock> THIS one: ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/
#2247 [19:52] <Guest13434> it says that folder cant be found
#2248 [19:52] <Wug> post an error log
#2249 [19:52] <Tim> but 1.3.1 srewed it up
#2250 [19:52] <GBlock> Sheesh, you miss one character...
#2251 [19:52] <Guest13434> gblock it says it folder cant be found
#2252 [19:52] <Wug> this channel is too grumpy
#2253 [19:52] <GBlock> Okay. Backup plan: ~/Library
#2254 [19:52] <lutzee> Wug it seems to be problems with internal server crashing and not displaying an error in some cases, saying "disconnected by server internal server error" and that is it, unless they now log a file too
#2255 [19:52] <Wug> Guest13434: put the entire folder name in quotes
#2256 [19:52] <Tim> MY DAM MINECRAFT SHUTS DOWN EVERYTIME I FLY
#2257 [19:53] <Tim> or i get error message
#2258 [19:53] <Guest13434> ok now what gablock
#2259 [19:53] <Wug> Tim: POST THE ERROR MESSAGE
#2260 [19:53] <lutzee> Tim calm down, what is the error message?
#2261 [19:53] <Wug> put it on pastebin
#2262 [19:53] <GBlock> From there, you can manually navigate; also, possibly the folder doesn't exist on your computer, which... can't be helping the game work.
#2263 [19:53] <Tim> I think it has to do with the lan server
#2264 [19:53] <Wug> Tim: probably
#2265 [19:53] <Wug> now post the error message
#2266 [19:54] <Guest13434> all is see is mincraft app and minecraft.jar
#2267 [19:54] <Tim> My minecraft just shuts down
#2268 [19:54] <jediknight7> here is the link to the error log
#2269 [19:54] <Wug> <Tim> or i get error message
#2270 [19:54] <jediknight7> http://pastebin.com/FbtuZ2nP
#2271 [19:54] <Tim> Everytime i fly or just randomly
#2272 [19:54] <GBlock> Guest13434: Wait, what? In ~/Library/Application Support ?
#2273 [19:54] <jediknight7> me to tim
#2274 [19:54] <Guest13434> yes
#2275 [19:55] <GBlock> 0_o I have no idea what those would be doing there.
#2276 [19:55] <lutzee> Okay jediknight7 seems to be a problem when generating dungeons
#2277 [19:55] <Wug> Tim: so when you get an error message
#2278 [19:55] <Wug> post it so i can see it
#2279 [19:55] <GBlock> Wait.
#2280 [19:55] <GBlock> No, it makes sense.
#2281 [19:55] <Rurouni> I just want to say, for later note of to Mohjang, When the game mode command is used with the option to use "cheat" on world creating options, to switch from survival to creative and back to survival, I can no longer interact or break blocks in survival mode
#2282 [19:55] <Tim> ?
#2283 [19:55] <jediknight7> do you know how to fix it
#2284 [19:55] <Guest13434> so gablock what do i do to fix the problem
#2285 [19:55] <Wug> Tim: I can't help unless I know whats wrong
#2286 [19:55] <Wug> "it crashes" is not helpful at all
#2287 [19:55] <Wug> you say it gives an error message
#2288 [19:55] <Tim> It say intertnal erro server or disconnted by server
#2289 [19:56] <Wug> thats it?
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#2291 [19:56] <Tim> and im ine single player
#2292 [19:56] <Guest13434> gblock what do i do to fix
#2293 [19:56] <xizuo123> why duz my minecraft keep saying disconnected by error internal server error???????????????????????
#2294 [19:56] <GBlock> Guest13434: So, having manually navigated there, there is NO minecraft folder in Library/Application Support ? (Sorry if I'm sounding dense, but it's good to be on equal terms here.)
#2295 [19:56] <lutzee> jediknight7, well thats all i can say for now
#2296 [19:56] <jediknight7> thanks
#2297 [19:57] <Guest13434> yes there is no minecraft folder
#2298 [19:57] <lutzee> Er yi.a = WorldGenDungeons.pickCheckLootItem
#2299 [19:57] <Tim> GOD EVERTIME I FLY IT JUST SHUTS DOWN!
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#2301 [19:57] <Tim> it makes me so mad that i cant event dam fly!
#2302 [19:57] <lutzee> Tim this is an unmodded minecraft right?
#2303 [19:57] <xizuo123> ca sumone help me on pm?
#2304 [19:57] <GBlock> Guest13434: Perplexing. If there's no folder, then there's no /bin/ or anything else to recommend to delete.
#2305 [19:57] <Tim> It has nothing to do with mods
#2306 [19:57] <lutzee> xizuo123, in channel is prefered
#2307 [19:58] <Guest13434> righ
#2308 [19:58] <GBlock> Guest13434: Which means my advice is pretty well rendered useless. :<
#2309 [19:58] <Tim> ive done without mods
#2310 [19:58] <xizuo123> ok
#2311 [19:58] <Tim> stil donest work
#2312 [19:58] <lutzee> Guest13434, start the game and log in, tell us if the game loads
#2313 [19:58] <Wug> Tim: get teamviewer
#2314 [19:58] <xizuo123> why duz my minecraft keep saying disconnected by error internal server error??????????????????????? plz answer
#2315 [19:58] <Wug> xizuo123: probably a bug
#2316 [19:58] <Wug> do you use mods
#2317 [19:58] <Tim> teamviewer?
#2318 [19:58] <Tim> i use some
#2319 [19:58] <gv> See help.mojang.com
#2320 [19:59] <Tim> but it donest affect it
#2321 [19:59] <gv> The error faq is there
#2322 [19:59] <Wug> Tim: that question was directed to xizuo123
#2323 [19:59] <Guest13434> it dose i can play 1.2.5 but i want to update to 1.3.1
#2324 [19:59] <xizuo123> yes
#2325 [19:59] <Wug> gv: u so sneaky
#2326 [19:59] <xizuo123> i do use mods
#2327 [19:59] <lutzee> ?? Guest13434 forceupdate
#2328 [19:59] <GBlock> Well, sorry I can't help you, but lots of other people (myself included!) are waiting for developments on the matter, so you aren't alone in your frustration.
#2329 [19:59] <Tim> Nvm you people cant even help a blind damit
#2330 [19:59] <gv> Mrah
#2331 [19:59] <lutzee> ??> Guest13434 forceupdate
#2332 [19:59] <VoxelHead> Guest13434: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2333 [19:59] <VoxelHead> Guest13434: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2334 [19:59] <Wug> Well guys
#2335 [20:00] <Rurouni> ?
#2336 [20:00] <Wug> this should be easier now
#2337 [20:00] <Guest13434> i did it says fate error occured when i try to update
#2338 [20:00] <xizuo123> tmi xray modloader emerald tools and armor and reis minimap!!!!
#2339 [20:00] <GBlock> Ja.
#2340 [20:00] <xizuo123> those r the mods i use
#2341 [20:00] <Wug> xizuo123: does it work if you don't have any mods installed
#2342 [20:00] <gv> Disable your antivirus guest
#2343 [20:00] <xizuo123> ummm
#2344 [20:00] <Rurouni> I'll go see about reporting that bug with the games Cheat option gamemode changes
#2345 [20:01] <xizuo123> it suddenly started happeneig
#2346 [20:01] <gv> Then trying updating again
#2347 [20:01] <xizuo123> heppening
#2348 [20:01] <lutzee> xizuo123, well you have mods installed, i bet they are buggy
#2349 [20:01] <xizuo123> happenning*
#2350 [20:01] <xizuo123> no way
#2351 [20:01] <Guest13434> i did it still says fatal error occurred
#2352 [20:01] <xizuo123> it suddenly occured
#2353 [20:01] <xizuo123> it suddenly occured
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#2355 [20:01] <xizuo123> just randomly
#2356 [20:02] <gv> what is the exact error?
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#2358 [20:02] <lutzee> xizuo123, modloader for 1.3.1 has only been out for like 5 hours, mods updating so quickly are probably careless
#2359 [20:02] <xizuo123> like i was sprinting them wala it happened i tried agen i sprinted wala heappend agen
#2360 [20:02] <Phrazer> hello
#2361 [20:02] <Guest13434> it just says fatel error occured
#2362 [20:02] <xizuo123> no
#2363 [20:02] <Phrazer> i have a very important questinon
#2364 [20:02] <lutzee> ??> xizuo123 mods
#2365 [20:02] <VoxelHead> xizuo123: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2366 [20:02] <VoxelHead> xizuo123: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2367 [20:02] <xizuo123> resugami is like really neat and cool
#2368 [20:02] <Phrazer> do u get unlimited downloads?
#2369 [20:02] <Phrazer> once u buy
#2370 [20:02] <xizuo123> I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2371 [20:03] <lutzee> Phrazer, yes
#2372 [20:03] <Wug> xizuo123: dont shout
#2373 [20:03] <Wug> its annoying.
#2374 [20:03] <lutzee> xizuo123, you can ask in #risucraft for modding support.
#2375 [20:03] <Wug> check if it works without mods.
#2376 [20:03] <Guest13434> i need help do i download mincraft files or what
#2377 [20:03] <gv> There is more to that error guest. I need to know what it says exactly
#2378 [20:03] <xizuo123> man!!!
#2379 [20:03] <xizuo123> gunna take a while
#2380 [20:03] <Guest13434> i cant update to 1.3.1 and i use a mac
#2381 [20:03] <Wug> xizuo123: if it works without mods, its a bronek mod
#2382 [20:03] <Wug> broken*
#2383 [20:04] <Wug> Guest13434: try disabling your antivirus and see if force updating works then
#2384 [20:04] <Wug> you can reenable it afterwards.
#2385 [20:04] <Guest13434> how do i disabble that
#2386 [20:04] <xizuo123> dont think its becuz resugami mate
#2387 [20:04] <gv> Need mac/reinst instructs for guest
#2388 [20:04] <gv> Typing on this phone is tedious
#2389 [20:04] <lutzee> gv it appears that it isn't even installed in the right place
#2390 [20:05] <xizuo123> seriously, since when did resugami ever make a mistke in the mods he make???
#2391 [20:05] <lutzee> xizuo123, since 1.3.1 changed a lot of stuff
#2392 [20:05] <xizuo123> eh yeah
#2393 [20:05] <gv> Lutzee. Oh. Really?
#2394 [20:05] <xizuo123> emeralds and stuff
#2395 [20:05] <lutzee> and you cannot account for what "users" of modloader do
#2396 [20:05] <lutzee> they can do stupid things
#2397 [20:06] <Guest13434> how do i disable antiviures
#2398 [20:06] <Guest13434> wug
#2399 [20:06] <Wug> Guest13434: do you know which one you have
#2400 [20:06] <gv> ??> guest13434 mac/reinst
#2401 [20:06] <Guest13434> witch one what
#2402 [20:06] <VoxelHead> guest13434: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2403 [20:06] <VoxelHead> guest13434: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2404 [20:07] <Wug> Guest13434: which antivirus
#2405 [20:07] <gv> Wug. Mac
#2406 [20:07] <lutzee> wug not he is on a mac
#2407 [20:07] <Wug> lutzee: then idk
#2408 [20:07] <Wug> Scott:
#2409 [20:07] <xizuo123> holy shid now im lost
#2410 [20:07] <gv> Fatal error usually is the minecraft jar corription issue
#2411 [20:07] <Guest13434> i just wnna update to 1.3.1
#2412 [20:07] <xizuo123> yep
#2413 [20:07] <xizuo123> lol u have cracked right??
#2414 [20:07] <Guest13434> but it wont lt me
#2415 [20:08] <gv> Follow vox's instructions guest
#2416 [20:08] <xizuo123> its working now
#2417 [20:08] <xizuo123> but
#2418 [20:08] <xizuo123> I don geddit
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#2420 [20:08] <gv> ??> Guest13434 mac/reinst
#2421 [20:08] <Wug> xizuo123: did you remove your mods?
#2422 [20:08] <VoxelHead> Guest13434: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2423 [20:08] <VoxelHead> Guest13434: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2424 [20:09] <xizuo123> yez
#2425 [20:09] <xizuo123> yes
#2426 [20:09] <Wug> if so, the answer is simple: you have a buggy mod.
#2427 [20:09] <xizuo123> hmmmm
#2428 [20:09] <Guest13434> i dont see any bin ecources
#2429 [20:09] <Guest13434> recorces
#2430 [20:09] <xizuo123> last mod i installed wasss
#2431 [20:09] <Wug> thats probably what tims problem was
#2432 [20:09] <gv> Guest.
#2433 [20:09] <xizuo123> x ray
#2434 [20:09] <Wug> except he was too stubborn to consider the possibility.
#2435 [20:09] <Guest13434> all i see is the minecraft app and mine craft.jar
#2436 [20:09] <xizuo123> me?????
#2437 [20:09] <lutzee> Yes xray why am i not surprised?
#2438 [20:09] <Wug> xizuo123: reinstall xray and see if it breaks again.
#2439 [20:09] <xizuo123> ok
#2440 [20:10] <Wug> we should just set up a giant conspiracy
#2441 [20:10] <xizuo123> ill install all my mods made a bin backup
#2442 [20:10] <xizuo123> cant bear without mods
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#2444 [20:10] <Wug> xray mod producers should just all band together
#2445 [20:10] <Guest13434> voxelhead i cant find any bin recorces
#2446 [20:10] * Sarkynin [Sarkynin@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2447 [20:10] <Wug> make an mcbans-like list of players who use xray
#2448 [20:10] <gv> Guest13434: press your command+shift+g keys. Type in: ~/Library/Application support
#2449 [20:10] <Sarkynin> Hi everyone!
#2450 [20:10] <lutzee> And then realise that it's pointless trying because soon it won't be possible
#2451 [20:10] <xizuo123> who is the original person who created x ray??
#2452 [20:11] <gv> Gu
#2453 [20:11] <xizuo123> me?
#2454 [20:11] <Guest13434> all i see is mine craft app and minecraft.jar
#2455 [20:11] <Sarkynin> I can't seem to find someone who can play with me. I never played any of Vechs's maps, and I want to start with Sea of Flames II, but I don't want to play alone. So, does someone wants to play with me?
#2456 [20:11] <gv> Guest13434: do you see the minecraft folder now?
#2457 [20:11] <Wug> xizuo123: if someone is speaking to you they will say your name
#2458 [20:11] <lutzee> Sarkynin, ask in #smp
#2459 [20:11] <Sarkynin> Thank's lutzee!
#2460 [20:11] <Guest13434> gv all i see is mine craft app and mine craft.jar
#2461 [20:12] <Wug> generally, everything they say from that point on is targeted at you until they say someone elses name
#2462 [20:12] <gv> Guest13434: did you follow my instructions?
#2463 [20:12] <Wug> within reason of course
#2464 [20:12] <Guest13434> yes
#2465 [20:12] <Guest13434> gv all i see is mine craft app and mine craft.jar
#2466 [20:12] <xizuo123> holy
#2467 [20:12] <xizuo123> its just a bug or something
#2468 [20:12] <xizuo123> its working still
#2469 [20:12] <xizuo123> good*
#2470 [20:12] <gv> Then you shouldn't even see those files..
#2471 [20:12] <Wug> it might be caused by a combination of mods.
#2472 [20:13] <xizuo123> with all my mods installed 4 soum reason
#2473 [20:13] <xizuo123> nah
#2474 [20:13] <gv> Try again Guest13434
#2475 [20:13] <xizuo123> its a bug i tink
#2476 [20:13] <gv> Definitely a bug
#2477 [20:13] <gv> With a mod.
#2478 [20:13] <xizuo123> cuz i have ALL my mods installed ands its working fine so i guess its just a bug
#2479 [20:13] <Wug> probably.
#2480 [20:14] <Wug> xizuo123: before you go
#2481 [20:14] <xizuo123> yes?
#2482 [20:14] <xizuo123> say tnx?
#2483 [20:14] <Wug> no
#2484 [20:14] <xizuo123> thanks guys and especially Wug :)
#2485 [20:14] <xizuo123> yes?
#2486 [20:14] <Guest13434> gv still did not work i dont see anything
#2487 [20:14] <Wug> can you open your minecraft folder
#2488 [20:14] <xizuo123> ummmm
#2489 [20:15] <lutzee> ?? win/.minecraft
#2490 [20:15] <VoxelHead> win/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on Windows, press Win+R, and in the window that appears, type "%AppData%\.minecraft", and click OK.
#2491 [20:15] <lutzee> ^ that folder
#2492 [20:15] <Wug> ls there a folder in there called logs
#2493 [20:15] <gv> Guest13434: press your command+shift+g keys. What pops up?
#2494 [20:15] <Wug> or something similar
#2495 [20:15] <xizuo123> no
#2496 [20:15] <xizuo123> lang
#2497 [20:15] <xizuo123> i think
#2498 [20:15] <Sarkynin> Urgh, nobody's on #smp. X.x
#2499 [20:15] <xizuo123> lol
#2500 [20:16] <Guest13434> a go to this folder thing
#2501 [20:16] <xizuo123> Wug??
#2502 [20:16] <xizuo123> what do you want?
#2503 [20:16] <xizuo123> before i go?
#2504 [20:16] <Wug> xizuo123: no, its not that
#2505 [20:16] <lutzee> Sarkynin, thats the only acceptable place to ask for that stuff here on IRC
#2506 [20:16] <gv> Guest13434 - now. Type in ~/Library
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#2508 [20:16] <Sarkynin> Yeah, I know.
#2509 [20:16] <Wug> xizuo123: minecraft supposedly creates a log file when it crashes
#2510 [20:16] <xizuo123> ph
#2511 [20:16] <Wug> im trying to find out where it puts it
#2512 [20:16] <xizuo123> oh
#2513 [20:16] <xizuo123> yeah
#2514 [20:16] <lutzee> Sarkynin, if no luck there you won't find any on IRC
#2515 [20:16] <xizuo123> but
#2516 [20:16] <gv> Make sure you're including the ~ symbol
#2517 [20:16] <Guest13434> ok now what
#2518 [20:17] <Sarkynin> Okay. :/
#2519 [20:17] <xizuo123> no
#2520 [20:17] <xizuo123> i makes a crash-report file
#2521 [20:17] <lutzee> wug, he had modloader, modloader.txt might be useful
#2522 [20:17] <gv> Look for the folder marked application support
#2523 [20:17] <xizuo123> at least for my
#2524 [20:17] <Sarkynin> There should be a topic on minecraftforum to ask for game partners.
#2525 [20:17] <Wug> lutzee: there is supposedly one for vanilla
#2526 [20:17] <Guest13434> ok now what
#2527 [20:17] <lutzee> wug i'll force a crash on my 1.3 give me a minut
#2528 [20:17] <Guest13434> i clicked on the application support folder
#2529 [20:18] <gv> In there. You will see a folder labeled minecraft, yea?
#2530 [20:18] <Guest13434> no
#2531 [20:18] <Guest13434> all i see is the minecraft app and the mine craft.jar thing
#2532 [20:18] <gv> Have yoy ever gotten minecraft to work before
#2533 [20:18] <Guest13434> yes it just wont update to 1.3.1
#2534 [20:19] <gv> Then you're looking in the wrong place.
#2535 [20:19] <Guest13434> ok what do i do to fix so it will update to 1.3.1
#2536 [20:20] <Wug> lutzee: its called "crash-reports"
#2537 [20:20] <gv> If minecraft has worked before, there will be a minecraft folder in ~library/application support that you'll need to delete
#2538 [20:21] <Guest13434> i dont see a minecraft folder
#2539 [20:21] <lutzee> wug, apprently deleting world.class does not give enough time for the error reporting to load ;P
#2540 [20:21] <gv> Unfortunately, i'm on a phone, otherwise i'd offer teamviewer support
#2541 [20:22] <Guest13434> so what so i do to fix this
#2542 [20:22] <gv> Know how to open up your terminal?
#2543 [20:22] <Guest13434> yes'
#2544 [20:22] <gv> Do so
#2545 [20:23] <gv> Type in: cd ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft
#2546 [20:23] <gv> Tell me what you see next
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#2548 [20:24] <mhall> hry guys
#2549 [20:24] <mhall> hey*
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#2551 [20:25] <lutzee> hey
#2552 [20:25] <Jordan> Hey
#2553 [20:25] <mhall> ok so i need some help
#2554 [20:25] <lutzee> ?? ask
#2555 [20:25] <VoxelHead> ask: Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2556 [20:25] <VoxelHead> ask: If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2557 [20:26] <mhall> my game is lagging and i dont see why
#2558 [20:26] <mhall> i have a quad processer witrh 8 gb of ram and a teribite of harddrive memory
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#2560 [20:26] <Guest86745> Has it always lagged?
#2561 [20:26] <lutzee> ._. the recent update seems to improve some peoples fps and kill others fps
#2562 [20:26] <lutzee> Guest86745, i asume you also have a problem?
#2563 [20:26] <Guest13434> ok i typed that into turminal
#2564 [20:27] <Guest13434> now what
#2565 [20:27] <mhall> no my compuer crashed and i got a new and better harddrive in it and after that its lagged
#2566 [20:27] <gv> What do you see now Guest13434
#2567 [20:27] <Guest13434> what i just typed
#2568 [20:27] <Guest13434> do i have to gint enter or anything?
#2569 [20:27] <gv> And right after that?
#2570 [20:27] <gv> Yes
#2571 [20:27] <mhall> its been llike this before the new update
#2572 [20:27] <lutzee> mhall, what is the RMP rating of the HDD?
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#2574 [20:27] <mhall> how do i check that lol
#2575 [20:28] <Guest13434> no such file ordicutrey
#2576 [20:28] <lutzee> mhall, er, hadn't thought that far ahead, was hoping the offchance you knew ;
#2577 [20:28] <lutzee> ;)
#2578 [20:28] <mhall> lol
#2579 [20:28] <gv> The hell...
#2580 [20:29] <mhall> like ive played minecraft of a crappoer computer and it ran fine
#2581 [20:29] <Guest13434> so what do i do
#2582 [20:29] <mhall> and i have a 64 bit system
#2583 [20:29] <Wug> Scott: we needs mac halp
#2584 [20:29] <gv> Could you do a cd ~/Library/Application Support
#2585 [20:29] <lutzee> mhall, i guess it might not be the drive but a new update came out earlier this week, some people seem to be having major lag issues, while others, the game speed improves
#2586 [20:29] <gv> Do an ls -a
#2587 [20:30] <mhall> its been like this before the update
#2588 [20:30] <Guest13434> yes
#2589 [20:30] <gv> Then paste the output to pastebin.com
#2590 [20:30] <lutzee> mhall, i guess i could take a look at your hardware do what VoxelHead is about to say
#2591 [20:30] <lutzee> ??> mhall win/dxdiag
#2592 [20:30] <VoxelHead> mhall: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2593 [20:30] <VoxelHead> mhall: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2594 [20:30] <gv> Guest13434: give us the URL after you submit it
#2595 [20:30] <mhall> win+r keys
#2596 [20:30] <mhall> ?
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#2598 [20:31] <lutzee> mhall, you on a mac?
#2599 [20:31] <lutzee> or windows?
#2600 [20:31] <mhall> windows
#2601 [20:31] <Wug> lutzee: protip
#2602 [20:31] <gv> On your keyboard. What is the key between alt and crrl?
#2603 [20:31] <Wug> -lutzee- VERSION xchat 2.8.8 Ubuntu
#2604 [20:32] <mhall> fn
#2605 [20:32] <Guest86745> Well minecraft runs fine for me apart from that every 10+ mins it freezes up for like, 10+ seconds?
#2606 [20:32] <gv> To the right?
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#2608 [20:32] <Wug> Guest86745: are you on windows
#2609 [20:32] <lutzee> wug not really ever looked at ctcp on xchat
#2610 [20:32] <Guest86745> Yes
#2611 [20:32] <Wug> chatzilla doesnt say OS, just browser
#2612 [20:32] <mhall> its ctrl fun windows alt
#2613 [20:32] <gv> That'll be the win key
#2614 [20:32] <mhall> fn*
#2615 [20:32] <Wug> Guest86745: do you have 32 bit java
#2616 [20:32] <lutzee> mhall, the windows key is between the ctrl and alt keys on your keyboard
#2617 [20:33] <Guest86745> I have an GT 555M graphics card and 64 bit java
#2618 [20:33] <hayden> Does anyone have links to all of the jar downloads, from Mojang? You know.. where it is like assets.minecraft.net or assets.mojang.net? I'm looking to go back some versions.
#2619 [20:33] <gv> Press the win and r keys at the same time
#2620 [20:33] <lutzee> hayden, not possible they get removed
#2621 [20:33] <lutzee> ??> hayden oldversion
#2622 [20:33] <VoxelHead> hayden: (oldversion) The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#2623 [20:33] <hayden> Thanks!
#2624 [20:34] <Wug> Guest86745: are you sure you're using 64 bit java
#2625 [20:34] <Wug> when you play minecraft, open the task manager
#2626 [20:34] <Guest86745> I think so, I've tried setting it to use 2gb of ram.
#2627 [20:34] <Wug> search for java.exe or javaw.exe in the list of processes in the processes tab
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#2629 [20:34] <Wug> does it hava "*32" next to it
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#2631 [20:35] <Guest86745> Oh man it dosn't
#2632 [20:35] <Guest86745> Oh, that's fine. Was confused for a second.
#2633 [20:35] <Guest86745> Right?
#2634 [20:35] <Wug> yeah, its 64 bit then
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#2636 [20:35] <mhall_> ok hey guys
#2637 [20:35] <mhall_> http://pastebin.com/NTAk7VM1
#2638 [20:35] <Wug> try setting it to 1GB of ram
#2639 [20:36] <Wug> 2 is generally excessive
#2640 [20:36] <Guest86745> It was at first
#2641 [20:36] <Wug> mhall_: old drivers
#2642 [20:36] <Wug> hang on
#2643 [20:37] <Wug> mhall_: these are much newer: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20601&ProdId=2996&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20(64-bit)*&DownloadType=Drivers
#2644 [20:37] <Wug> try installing that
#2645 [20:37] <mhall_> oh i thought my rivers were up to date lol
#2646 [20:38] <Wug> theyre a year older than the newest
#2647 [20:38] <lutzee> windows doesn't have a clue if drivers are up to date
#2648 [20:39] <Cerial12> Hey, i have aproblem, i try to go on minecraft the game launcher, i enter my stuff and it says LOGIN FAILED. any help?
#2649 [20:39] <mhall_> it says the driver is not validated for my computer
#2650 [20:39] <Wug> mhall_: can you say yes and install it anywau
#2651 [20:39] <lutzee> Cerial12, you have inputted username/password wrong, or your account is a mojang account and you should use the email you registered with
#2652 [20:40] <mhall_> no it says setup will exit
#2653 [20:40] <Cerial12> ???????????
#2654 [20:40] <Wug> ^ I think his brain crashed
#2655 [20:40] <lutzee> Odd
#2656 [20:41] <mhall_> this si frustrating
#2657 [20:42] <Wug> mhall_: do you have any mods installed
#2658 [20:42] <mhall_> no
#2659 [20:42] <mhall_> no mods no texture pack
#2660 [20:42] <Wug> did it get slower when you updated to the most recent version?
#2661 [20:43] <xizuo123> whats happening?
#2662 [20:43] <mhall_> no no change
#2663 [20:43] <Wug> xizuo123: mhall_ has some sort of performance issue
#2664 [20:43] <xizuo123> internet?
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#2666 [20:43] <xizuo123> for updating or what?
#2667 [20:43] <mhall_> put liek the color of my guys hand goes between normal and balck and the game just runs like crap even with tiny render
#2668 [20:44] <xizuo123> performance for updating or ingame?
#2669 [20:44] <xizuo123> if ingame i have NO idea
#2670 [20:45] <mhall_> all i can download from intel is Intel® Processor Diagnostic Tool
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#2672 [20:45] <mhall_> could it be my graphics card?
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#2674 [20:46] <xizuo123> maybe
#2675 [20:46] <Wug> it definitely is
#2676 [20:46] <Wug> but chances are a newer driver will make it run better
#2677 [20:46] <mhall_> i cant get a newer driver
#2678 [20:46] <Wug> mhall_: is it a laptop or a desktop
#2679 [20:46] <lutzee> If HP has gotten into the habbit of providing its own drivers for graphics gah
#2680 [20:47] <lutzee> thought sony was bad enough for it
#2681 [20:47] <mhall_> but windows gives my graphic chip a 3.6 raing
#2682 [20:47] <lutzee> 3.6 is poor
#2683 [20:47] <mhall_> yea ik lol
#2684 [20:47] <Wug> yeah out of like 8
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#2686 [20:47] <mhall_> its a desktop
#2687 [20:47] <lutzee> ooo
#2688 [20:48] <bo_stones> hi i recently restored my computer now minecraft will not launch any ideas
#2689 [20:48] <lutzee> you can buy a graphics card then
#2690 [20:48] <lutzee> bo_stones, at what point does it not start? when does it stop working?
#2691 [20:48] <xizuo123> ?
#2692 [20:48] <mhall_> or could ot be the monitor? cause im using a old momitor
#2693 [20:48] <Wug> mhall_: no, its the graphics card
#2694 [20:49] <mhall_> ok
#2695 [20:49] <bo_stones> does nothing i click run and does nata
#2696 [20:49] <mhall_> thanks guys
#2697 [20:49] <Wug> bo_stones: java is probably borked
#2698 [20:49] <Wug> mhall_: dont leave yet
#2699 [20:49] <Wug> bo_stones: reinstall java
#2700 [20:49] <mhall_> oh ok?
#2701 [20:49] <bo_stones> im gonna try now ill be back well hopefully not thanx guys
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#2703 [20:50] <lutzee> mhall_, if you are on a desktop then you can purchase a dedicated graphics card that should increase the performance greatly
#2704 [20:50] <mhall_> whats a dedicated graphics card
#2705 [20:51] <Wug> in general, one made by nvidia or amd
#2706 [20:51] <Wug> mhall_: do you have teamviewer
#2707 [20:51] <Wug> mhall_: do you have teamviewer
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#2709 [20:52] <mhall_> ?
#2710 [20:52] <mhall_> idk lol
#2711 [20:52] * lutzee is busy trying to fry a fly thats been bothering him for over an hour
#2711 [20:52] <mhall_> but i feel like i already have a nvidia card
#2712 [20:53] <lutzee> mhall_, no, you are using the onboard graphics that is integrated into your CPU/motherboard
#2713 [20:53] <Wug> mhall_: you "feel" like it.
#2714 [20:53] <mhall_> oh ok
#2715 [20:53] <mhall_> ill buy a new card then
#2716 [20:53] <mhall_> i usally bu y nvidia cards
#2717 [20:54] <Wug> do you have one and just not have a driver for it?
#2718 [20:54] <Wug> get teamviewer
#2719 [20:54] <lutzee> Yes i was thinking that it might have one you aren't using
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#2721 [20:55] <mhall_> i ahev one for my computer from liek 6 years ago lol
#2722 [20:55] <mhall_> whats teamviewer
#2723 [20:55] <mhall_> but i always thought my computer came with a mvidia card
#2724 [20:56] <lutzee> ?? teamviewer
#2725 [20:56] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer is remote access software, which enables other people to, with your permission, access your computer remotely and attempt to perform troubleshooting and diagnostics.
#2726 [20:56] <VoxelHead> teamviewer: Teamviewer's website is here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx
#2727 [20:58] <mhall_> ughhh i hate my computer lol
#2728 [20:58] <Wug> !check mc.ecocitycraft.com
#2729 [20:58] <xizuo123> shid
#2730 [20:58] <xizuo123> dman my router and me
#2731 [20:58] <xizuo123> and my computer
#2732 [20:59] <xizuo123> for having such goddamn sucurity systeams
#2733 [20:59] <xizuo123> !check mc.ecocitycraft.com
#2734 [20:59] <xizuo123> AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
#2735 [21:00] <mhall_> ok i got teamview
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#2739 [21:00] <Wug> mhall_: send me the id and password
#2740 [21:00] <mhall_> 835 839 029
#2741 [21:01] <mhall_> r154va
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#2743 [21:02] <Wug> mhall_: ok, im connected
#2744 [21:02] <mhall_> ok
#2745 [21:02] <Wug> ill need a second to look around
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#2747 [21:03] <deadkat99> newb user here cannot get past "done loading" to play demo running ubuntu12.04
#2748 [21:03] <Wug> mhall_: where is the driver you downloaded that didnt work
#2749 [21:03] <Wug> deadkat99: try updating lwjgl
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#2751 [21:04] <ngc0202> Is there any way to go back to the old ender chests?
#2752 [21:04] <Wug> ngc0202: not without mods, no.
#2753 [21:04] <ngc0202> Damn it
#2754 [21:05] <ngc0202> That's saddening
#2755 [21:05] <Guest86745> Do you have a laptop mhall?
#2756 [21:05] <lutzee> wug, seems to be a lot of issues with the demo, and only working when another premium user has logged in to download the files in some cases for some reason
#2757 [21:06] <Wug> teamviewer seems to be misbehaving
#2758 [21:06] <Wug> mhall_: are you disconnecting it
#2759 [21:06] <Wug> if you are, stop, because i cant do anything
#2760 [21:07] <lutzee> wug, looks like his internet cut out
#2761 [21:07] <Wug> well that explains that i gues
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#2764 [21:08] <mhall> wug?
#2765 [21:08] <Wug> mhall: hello
#2766 [21:09] <lutzee> welcome back :p
#2767 [21:09] <Wug> is teamviewer still running
#2768 [21:09] <mhall> yea
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#2773 [21:11] <bipolarbear> anyone here, to answer a quick question?
#2774 [21:11] <lutzee> yes, fire away
#2775 [21:12] <bipolarbear> is there anyway to transfer a world to a different account? my and my brother play LAN, but it's saved to my computer
#2776 [21:12] <bipolarbear> simple giving him my save file would make him play from my perspective
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#2778 [21:12] <bipolarbear> he wants to play and build on his character when i'm not there
#2779 [21:12] <Austin> I need help
#2780 [21:13] <lutzee> bipolarbear, hmmm there should be, can you tell me the contents of the save folder?
#2781 [21:13] <lutzee> ??> Austin ask
#2782 [21:13] <VoxelHead> Austin: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#2783 [21:13] <VoxelHead> Austin: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#2784 [21:13] <bipolarbear> the contents of my save folder..
#2785 [21:14] <Austin> Okay so i am playing minecraft when one day i try to log in and it says not premium status and i dont know what to do
#2786 [21:14] <bipolarbear> a few folders, level.dat and a few other files
#2787 [21:14] <lutzee> bipolarbear, yes, i have yet to make a LAN world with 2 people, there will be something in the save that is to do with his character, i just need to find it
#2788 [21:14] <bipolarbear> do u need specifics?
#2789 [21:14] <Austin> yah sure
#2790 [21:14] <lutzee> bipolarbear, maybe take a screenshot
#2791 [21:15] <lutzee> easier
#2792 [21:15] <lutzee> Austin, how did you pay for the game? and where?
#2793 [21:15] <Austin> My aunt bought it for me with her credit card on minecraft.net
#2794 [21:15] <lutzee> Austin, what is the account name?
#2795 [21:16] <Austin> AustinC2017 i believe
#2796 [21:16] <lutzee> !paid AustinC2017
#2797 [21:16] <Austin> No my aunt paid it showed up on her credit card bill
#2798 [21:16] <lutzee> Austin, it seems the account is not premium, when did she buy it for you?
#2799 [21:17] <Austin> June 22
#2800 [21:17] <Austin> Hello?
#2801 [21:17] <lutzee> Austin, okay, something has either gone wrong and premium has been lost for some reason, or you have the account name wrong
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#2803 [21:18] <mhall_> sorry internet sucks
#2804 [21:18] <bipolarbear> hi again, http://i.imgur.com/ZIwR7.jpg
#2805 [21:18] <bipolarbear> that's my folder, and the 'players' folder
#2806 [21:18] <Austin> Ok i dont know for sure what it is but i believe it is rught
#2807 [21:18] <Austin> *right
#2808 [21:18] <bipolarbear> i figured it's probably in players?
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#2810 [21:19] <Austin> hello?
#2811 [21:20] <lutzee> Austin, please read this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329541-my-account-is-no-longer-premium
#2812 [21:20] <Austin> ok thank you
#2813 [21:20] <bipolarbear> do u need my account?
#2814 [21:20] <lutzee> If there are any more problems you can fill out a support request to mojang here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2815 [21:21] <lutzee> bipolarbear, which is your character name
#2816 [21:21] <lutzee> ?
#2817 [21:21] <bipolarbear> atsay714
#2818 [21:21] <lutzee> okay
#2819 [21:21] <Austin> I have read that before and they have not refunded my aunt and she did get an email but it asked some very strange questions so she deleted it
#2820 [21:21] <Austin> And i dont know if i want to buy it again because i dont want to be charged twice
#2821 [21:22] <lutzee> when you copy the world, in the players folder, rename the "atsay714.dat" file to "paveth.dat" and the oposite for that file
#2822 [21:22] <lutzee> that should work
#2823 [21:22] <bipolarbear> so simple :D
#2824 [21:22] <bipolarbear> i'll give it a try
#2825 [21:22] <bipolarbear> thank u
#2826 [21:22] <Austin> ummmmmm?
#2827 [21:22] <lutzee> Austin, okay she should still have the transaction number on her bank account, fill out a support request to mojang including that number and your problem
#2828 [21:23] <Austin> ok how do i do that
#2829 [21:23] <lutzee> here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2830 [21:23] <lutzee> also if you are unsure what the transaction ID is look here http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
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#2833 [21:26] <Austin> I dont have all that stuff
#2834 [21:27] <lutzee> Austin, what are you missing?
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#2836 [21:27] <bipolarbear> Hi again, I went ahead and tried it on my computer right now and swapped the names. When I log in, it should be my brother's right?
#2837 [21:27] <Austin> The Id thing and i am unsure of my password and my username
#2838 [21:28] <Austin> i am not on a computer with that imformation
#2839 [21:28] <lutzee> bipolarbear, if you log in as yourself you should see your brothers inventory
#2840 [21:28] <bipolarbear> yea, i don't. it's still my inventory
#2841 [21:28] <lutzee> Austin, okay you will have to wait till you aquire the information,
#2842 [21:28] <lutzee> bipolarbear, hmm okay
#2843 [21:28] <Daniel> i have problem i brought minecraft but it didnt give me a id or a email on it did nine hours and it says i can play without
#2844 [21:29] <Daniel> nine hundreds ago
#2845 [21:29] <lutzee> Daniel, how did you pay for the game?
#2846 [21:29] <Austin> okay thank you for your help it was very appreciated
#2847 [21:29] <Daniel> credit card
#2848 [21:30] <lutzee> Daniel, can you check that your account has been debited by logging into your banks internet banking feature?
#2849 [21:30] <Daniel> it got charged
#2850 [21:31] <lutzee> Daniel, what is your minecraft account name?
#2851 [21:31] <Daniel> why \
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#2853 [21:32] <mhall> ok
#2854 [21:32] <Wug> mhall: working?
#2855 [21:32] <lutzee> Daniel, so i can check if your account has premium status
#2856 [21:32] <Daniel> it doesnt
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#2858 [21:32] <Daniel> but i did buy and got charged
#2859 [21:33] <Wug> Daniel: it might just take a while for the charge to go through all the way
#2860 [21:33] <Daniel> k
#2861 [21:33] <mhall> running slower
#2862 [21:34] <Wug> mhall: have you restarted
#2863 [21:34] <mhall> yea
#2864 [21:34] <Wug> is it behaving the same way?
#2865 [21:34] <mhall> yea but slower
#2866 [21:34] <mhall> but i gatta go ill be on tomorrow
#2867 [21:34] <Wug> k
#2868 [21:34] <Daniel> i will wait and see what will happen but how long does it normally
#2869 [21:34] <mhall> thanks
#2870 [21:34] <Daniel> take
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#2873 [21:36] <bipolarbear> even when i delete both the character files, the game still runs opens up as my character..
#2874 [21:36] <bipolarbear> >_>
#2875 [21:36] <lutzee> Daniel, it can take up to 3 days sometimes
#2876 [21:36] <lutzee> bipolarbear, odd
#2877 [21:36] <canilao> Hello I have had an issue purchasing a gift code. I have a transaction ID, is there anyone who can help me here
#2878 [21:36] <Wug> bipolarbear: the player is stored in the map itself I believe
#2879 [21:37] <bipolarbear> am i out of luck?
#2880 [21:37] <Wug> canilao: if you have a transaction id, then you just have to wait a while
#2881 [21:37] <Wug> bipolarbear: you might be.
#2882 [21:37] <bipolarbear> i see
#2883 [21:37] <lutzee> canilao, look here, http://www.minecraft.net/profile it should be listed at the bottum, if not wait
#2884 [21:38] <bipolarbear> well thank you very much
#2885 [21:38] <canilao> thanks lutzee
#2886 [21:38] <lutzee> Wug, if that is so, then surely logging in as that player should work fine when you move to another account?
#2887 [21:38] <lutzee> canilao, is it listed there?
#2888 [21:39] <Wug> lutzee: it works the same way playing the same single player world as different players does
#2889 [21:39] <lutzee> Wug, he is on about after another player has connected via LAN so there should be something stored somewhere about the other players
#2890 [21:43] <bipolarbear> Soo... No cigar?
#2891 [21:44] <bipolarbear> Maybe there's another forum I can go to?
#2892 [21:44] <lutzee> bipolarbear, as 1.3.1 has only been out since tuesday, not much research has gone into it
#2893 [21:44] <lutzee> the only option is trial and error
#2894 [21:45] <bipolarbear> I see
#2895 [21:45] <bipolarbear> K, I'll try messing around
#2896 [21:46] <canilao> lutzee no its not
#2897 [21:46] <canilao> the gift code is not listed
#2898 [21:46] <lutzee> canilao, okay give it 12 hours
#2899 [21:46] <canilao> but the money is gone from my account
#2900 [21:46] <canilao> ok, but I did make the purchase on aug. 1st
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#2902 [21:47] <lutzee> canilao, oh right
#2903 [21:47] <lutzee> thats a bit too long, contact mojang here
#2904 [21:47] <lutzee> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2905 [21:47] <canilao> ok thanks
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#2907 [21:47] <lutzee> Include the transaction ID you got on your bank statement
#2908 [21:47] <canilao> ok
#2909 [21:47] <Chase_> hi everyone
#2910 [21:48] <canilao> thanks again
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#2912 [21:48] <canilao> and I have sent the email
#2913 [21:48] <canilao> I hope that works
#2914 [21:48] <Chase_> just updated to 1.3 and bricks are respawning after i mine them . any known fixes ?
#2915 [21:49] <Wug> Chase_: mods?
#2916 [21:50] <Chase_> no mods
#2917 [21:50] <lutzee> Wug, local server, could it be spawn protection? O.o
#2918 [21:50] <Wug> lutzee: no
#2919 [21:50] <Wug> almost certainly not
#2920 [21:51] <lutzee> Then the two halves aren't talking to each other?
#2921 [21:52] <Chase_> for example i mined straight down and it would randomly at diferent points send me back to ground level
#2922 [21:52] <Arle> Sounds like lag to me, or spawn protection.
#2923 [21:53] <Chase_> im in survival mode playing just by myself
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#2926 [21:57] <Chase_> ow can i submit a bug report
#2927 [21:57] <Chase_> ?
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#2929 [21:58] <help_plz> Hello?
#2930 [21:59] <lutzee> help_plz, hi
#2931 [21:59] <lutzee> Chase_, um try another world is all i can suggest
#2932 [22:00] <help_plz> When i play minecraft the world itself is really slow i think its because im not connected to wifi how do i connect to wifi
#2933 [22:00] <lutzee> help_plz, that isn't the problem
#2934 [22:01] <help_plz> what is the problem
#2935 [22:01] <Chase_> thanks all
#2936 [22:01] <lutzee> more likely your hardware might not have drivers capable of running the game, however more recent ones might be availible
#2937 [22:01] <lutzee> ??> help_plz win/dxdiag
#2938 [22:01] <VoxelHead> help_plz: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2939 [22:01] <VoxelHead> help_plz: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2940 [22:01] <Daniel> they do they make premiun people on the weekend
#2941 [22:02] <lutzee> Daniel, it should happen automatically, but sometimes it can take a while for the money to reach mojang
#2942 [22:02] <Daniel> k
#2943 [22:03] <help_plz> k thnks
#2944 [22:04] <lutzee> o.o
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#2948 [22:08] <minecrafter> I need some help
#2949 [22:08] <minecrafter> i registered for an account and put in the wrong email
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#2951 [22:08] <minecrafter> how can i change the email i registered with?
#2952 [22:09] <minecrafter> my account is not permium yet
#2953 [22:09] <minecrafter> and password is also not working
#2954 [22:09] <lutzee> minecrafter, i'm not sure it's possible with an incorrect email
#2955 [22:09] <minecrafter> the email i put in was an old one
#2956 [22:09] <minecrafter> i forgot i got rid of it
#2957 [22:09] <lutzee> Wug, does porting to a mojang account require email verification?
#2958 [22:09] <minecrafter> well i havent done that
#2959 [22:09] <minecrafter> i havent bought premium yet
#2960 [22:10] <minecrafter> because i cant login
#2961 [22:10] <lutzee> Thats a good thing
#2962 [22:10] <minecrafter> whats good?
#2963 [22:10] <Wug> lutzee: I have no idea
#2964 [22:10] <lutzee> minecrafter, you might want to just make a new account and make sure you get the email right
#2965 [22:10] <minecrafter> well i wanted that username
#2966 [22:10] * mib_yqnf5s [mib_yqnf5s@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2967 [22:10] <mib_yqnf5s> i am having with "Failed to verify username! " when connecting to a server i have just put online
#2968 [22:10] <VoxelHead> mib_yqnf5s - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#2969 [22:11] <mib_yqnf5s> thank you!
#2970 [22:11] <lutzee> mib_yqnf5s, ignore VoxelHead auto response, not applicable
#2971 [22:11] <Wug> mib_yqnf5s: whats your account name
#2972 [22:11] <mib_yqnf5s> aribeiro2
#2973 [22:11] <Wug> !paid aribeiro2
#2974 [22:11] <minecrafter> it was simmilar to my frien'd's account
#2975 [22:11] <Wug> log out and log in again
#2976 [22:11] <mib_yqnf5s> i have tried multiple times
#2977 [22:11] <minecrafter> we are good friends and want simmilar usernames
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#2979 [22:11] <minecrafter> one has a z and one has a s
#2980 [22:12] <minecrafter> and i entered in the wrong email.
#2981 [22:12] <Wug> mib_yqnf5s: close all minecrafts, and reopen only one
#2982 [22:12] <minecrafter> ??
#2983 [22:12] <mib_yqnf5s> all my minecrafts are closed, i guess
#2984 [22:12] <lutzee> minecrafter, unfortunately theres nothing we can do
#2985 [22:12] <lutzee> minecrafter, we are not affiliated with mojang
#2986 [22:13] <minecrafter> well who are you
#2987 [22:13] <Wug> community support
#2988 [22:13] <minecrafter> oh
#2989 [22:13] <lutzee> Community support, we are people who love the game so much we want to try help others in any way we can :)
#2990 [22:13] <mib_yqnf5s> i have downloaded the server and i am trying to use it in port 80 because the firewall blocks outgoing connections in other ports
#2991 [22:13] <lutzee> mib_yqnf5s, not possible
#2992 [22:14] <Wug> lutzee: not not possible
#2993 [22:14] <mib_yqnf5s> not possible to run in port 80?
#2994 [22:14] <Wug> but mib_yqnf5s it wont work the way you want it to
#2995 [22:14] <minecrafter> wel is there an email i can contact mojang at?
#2996 [22:14] <mib_yqnf5s> so i should use any port but 80?
#2997 [22:14] * lutzee doesn't like seeing stuff on registered ports that shouldn't be there
#2997 [22:15] <mib_yqnf5s> my client sees the server and connects to it
#2998 [22:15] <lutzee> mib_yqnf5s, do you have access to your routers admin page?
#2999 [22:15] <mib_yqnf5s> but i have the "Failed to verify username! " when connecting to a server i have just put online
#3000 [22:15] <VoxelHead> mib_yqnf5s - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#3001 [22:15] <lutzee> Someone needs to disable that message -.-
#3002 [22:16] <mib_yqnf5s> yes, but it is in a place where the only port available for connection outside is 80 and 443
#3003 [22:16] <mib_yqnf5s> are*
#3004 [22:16] <lutzee> mib_yqnf5s, what router make and model do you have?
#3005 [22:18] <mib_yqnf5s> its my office computer
#3006 [22:18] <mib_yqnf5s> there is a global firewall
#3007 [22:18] <minecrafter> is there an email to contact mojang at?
#3008 [22:18] <mib_yqnf5s> and i have asked them to liberate access to ports 443 and 80
#3009 [22:18] <lutzee> Yeah you won't be able to run a minecraft server at a workplace that you do not have access to the router for
#3010 [22:19] <Wug> you shouldnt run one at work anyway unless you want to get fired
#3011 [22:19] <lutzee> minecrafter, they won't really be bothered about a bad email on an account that hasn't got premium
#3012 [22:19] <lutzee> they will just advise you to make a new account
#3013 [22:19] <mib_yqnf5s> they are totally ok with it
#3014 [22:20] <minecrafter> well i will buy premium if i can login
#3015 [22:20] <lutzee> mib_yqnf5s, then get them to portforward port 25565 to your office PC
#3016 [22:20] <mib_yqnf5s> well
#3017 [22:20] <mib_yqnf5s> thank you!
#3018 [22:21] <minecrafter> well either way. Do you know of an email?
#3019 [22:21] <lutzee> minecrafter, not one that doesn't ask for a transaction ID
#3020 [22:21] <lutzee> minecrafter, equally you could tweet them, there support guy's twitter is @marc_IRL
#3021 [22:22] <minecrafter> well i dont have twitter
#3022 [22:23] <minecrafter> maybe a phone number?
#3023 [22:23] <lutzee> Nope no phone number
#3024 [22:23] <lutzee> mojang is a company of only 25 or so and does not have the staff capacity to cope with a phone number
#3025 [22:23] <minecrafter> i mean come on they gotta have something. They have MILLIONS of users, the least they can do is have a support email
#3026 [22:24] <lutzee> minecrafter, without paying for the game you are not counted as a customer, either way there is this http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#3027 [22:25] <lutzee> eh doesn't require transaction ID >.>
#3028 [22:25] <lutzee> However they are currently dealing with emails from May 19th
#3029 [22:26] <minecrafter> ??
#3030 [22:26] <lutzee> minecrafter, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new this is the email page
#3031 [22:26] <minecrafter> ok
#3032 [22:26] <minecrafter> i will fill that out
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#3034 [22:27] <minecrafter> how long does it normally take for them to contact back?
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#3036 [22:27] <SkrandyGaming> Hello, can anyone help me with running my minecraft server with more ram?
#3037 [22:27] * lansiir [lansiir@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#3038 [22:27] <minecrafter> yes i can help
#3039 [22:27] <SkrandyGaming> how do you do it?
#3040 [22:27] <lutzee> Like i said, they are currently working at clearing emails from may 19th minecrafter
#3041 [22:27] <minecrafter> is the startup file a batch file?
#3042 [22:28] <SkrandyGaming> uhm
#3043 [22:28] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, using the exe version of the server?
#3044 [22:28] <SkrandyGaming> as in?
#3045 [22:28] <SkrandyGaming> yes i am
#3046 [22:28] <minecrafter> what do you mean clearing emails?
#3047 [22:28] <lutzee> minecrafter, replying
#3048 [22:29] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, okay in the directory where you have the minecraft_server.exe make a new text file
#3049 [22:29] <SkrandyGaming> the directory?
#3050 [22:29] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, folder
#3051 [22:29] <SkrandyGaming> ohhh
#3052 [22:29] <SkrandyGaming> alright.
#3053 [22:30] <SkrandyGaming> i did it
#3054 [22:30] <lutzee> okay how much ram do you want to assign?
#3055 [22:30] <SkrandyGaming> 3 gigs seems good
#3056 [22:30] <lutzee> okay
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#3058 [22:30] <Guigly> Hey
#3059 [22:31] <lutzee> in the text file put "java -Xms1.5G -Xmx3G -jar minecraft_server.exe" without quotes
#3060 [22:31] <SkrandyGaming> okay
#3061 [22:31] <SkrandyGaming> done
#3062 [22:31] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, then hit save as and save it as "launcer.bat"
#3063 [22:31] <lutzee> er launcher
#3064 [22:32] <lutzee> doesn'
#3065 [22:32] <lutzee> launcher.bat
#3066 [22:32] <lutzee> doesn't really matter it's only a name :p
#3067 [22:32] <minecrafter> that would be a 3gb server
#3068 [22:32] <SkrandyGaming> alright, thats dont
#3069 [22:32] <SkrandyGaming> done8
#3070 [22:32] <lutzee> as long as it has .bat at the end
#3071 [22:32] <minecrafter> and save it as all types
#3072 [22:32] <lutzee> then double click the new bat file that should be in your servers folder
#3073 [22:32] <lutzee> minecrafter, not needed when using notepad
#3074 [22:32] <SkrandyGaming> alright thats done
#3075 [22:33] <minecrafter> now run the file and you have started up your ner 3gb server
#3076 [22:33] <minecrafter> *new
#3077 [22:33] <SkrandyGaming> i double click it.
#3078 [22:33] <SkrandyGaming> and it just closes instantly
#3079 [22:33] <SkrandyGaming> the cmd
#3080 [22:33] <lutzee> it should start the server with 3gb of ram
#3081 [22:33] <minecrafter> so.. why do you have vanilla server??
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#3083 [22:33] <SkrandyGaming> me? because i dont like mods that much
#3084 [22:33] <minecrafter> oh
#3085 [22:33] <Guigly> Can someone help me with logging on issues when not busy please?
#3086 [22:34] <SkrandyGaming> alright, i double click the .bat file, and nothing happens, just cmd opening and closeing
#3087 [22:34] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, hmm, that should work,
#3088 [22:34] <lutzee> okay
#3089 [22:34] <minecrafter> yeah.. does it start up your server?
#3090 [22:34] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, open cmd
#3091 [22:34] <lutzee> as in the proper program
#3092 [22:34] <SkrandyGaming> minecrafter, it just closes
#3093 [22:35] <minecrafter> whats the name of your old startup exe file? was it minecraft_server.exe?
#3094 [22:35] <SkrandyGaming> yeah. i opened cmd
#3095 [22:35] <SkrandyGaming> yeah it was.
#3096 [22:35] <SkrandyGaming> Minecraft_Server
#3097 [22:35] <lutzee> oh is it capitals?
#3098 [22:35] <lutzee> sigh
#3099 [22:35] <minecrafter> ok
#3100 [22:35] <minecrafter> is the bat file and minecraft_server.exe in the same folder?
#3101 [22:35] <SkrandyGaming> yes
#3102 [22:35] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, okay open the .bat file in notepad
#3103 [22:36] <SkrandyGaming> okay
#3104 [22:36] <lutzee> and change minecraft_server.exe to Minecraft_Sever.exe
#3105 [22:36] <SkrandyGaming> still doesnt work..
#3106 [22:36] <lutzee> er
#3107 [22:37] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, okay back to CMD
#3108 [22:37] <SkrandyGaming> okay
#3109 [22:37] <lutzee> type java -version and press enter
#3110 [22:37] <SkrandyGaming> 1.7
#3111 [22:37] <lutzee> okay java is in the class path
#3112 [22:37] <lutzee> hmm
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#3114 [22:38] <lutzee> try putting quotes arround "Minecraft_Server.exe" <like tha
#3115 [22:38] <SkrandyGaming> still doesnt work
#3116 [22:38] <minecrafter> ...yes you need the quotes
#3117 [22:38] <SkrandyGaming> juse opens and closes
#3118 [22:38] <minecrafter> strange??
#3119 [22:38] <minecrafter> ok did it open the server file?
#3120 [22:39] <Guigly> Can't log in to buy minecraft, someone help me out here?
#3121 [22:39] <SkrandyGaming> nothing happened
#3122 [22:39] <SkrandyGaming> i double clicked it, and cmd opened and closed
#3123 [22:39] <lutzee> Guigly, you registered an account?
#3124 [22:40] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, gah i hate bat files -.- okay back to using cmd again
#3125 [22:40] <SkrandyGaming> okay
#3126 [22:40] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, have you ever navigated folders using CMD?
#3127 [22:40] <SkrandyGaming> nope.
#3128 [22:40] <lutzee> okay
#3129 [22:40] <lutzee> when you start it you the default directory you are in is just C:/
#3130 [22:40] <SkrandyGaming> yeah
#3131 [22:40] <Guigly> Yeah I have lutzee, i've made 4 now. Tried logging in on each one, cleared cache, tried IE and Chrome, even tried logging into one I made away from home, couldn't log in :/
#3132 [22:41] <lutzee> wait scrap that
#3133 [22:41] <SkrandyGaming> hmm
#3134 [22:41] <SkrandyGaming> ?
#3135 [22:41] <lutzee> it's in user folders
#3136 [22:41] <SkrandyGaming> yeah it is
#3137 [22:41] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, where is the server files located?
#3138 [22:41] <SkrandyGaming> desktop
#3139 [22:42] <lutzee> Guigly, O.o you are trying to log in using the character name you chose and not the email address you used right?
#3140 [22:42] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, okay easy place,
#3141 [22:42] <Guigly> Yeah that's right
#3142 [22:42] <Guigly> I've tried with email too.
#3143 [22:43] <lutzee> type into CMD "cd ./Desktop" and press enter SkrandyGaming (without the quotes)
#3144 [22:43] <SkrandyGaming> without the .?
#3145 [22:43] <lutzee> just type cd ./Desktop into CMD and press enter
#3146 [22:44] <SkrandyGaming> okay
#3147 [22:44] <SkrandyGaming> done
#3148 [22:44] <lutzee> okay
#3149 [22:44] <lutzee> is the minecraft_server.exe file on your desktop?
#3150 [22:44] <SkrandyGaming> no, it's in a folder
#3151 [22:44] <lutzee> okay
#3152 [22:45] <lutzee> in CMD type cd ./<foldernamehere> replacing the <foldernamehere> bit with the folder name
#3153 [22:45] <lutzee> it has to be the exact folder name btw
#3154 [22:45] <SkrandyGaming> done
#3155 [22:46] <lutzee> okay should now be in the folder with the exe
#3156 [22:46] <mib_yqnf5s> hey guys i have fixed it
#3157 [22:46] <SkrandyGaming> probably.
#3158 [22:46] <mib_yqnf5s> my computer couldnt get to session.minecraft.net
#3159 [22:46] <lutzee> now SkrandyGaming remember that bat file i said earlier? type the contents of that file into CMD and press enter
#3160 [22:47] <lutzee> mib_yqnf5s, and you know what is causing it?
#3161 [22:47] <SkrandyGaming> with the qoutes?
#3162 [22:47] <mib_yqnf5s> so i have editted my dns to force session.minecraft.net to have a valid resolve address to 184.73.223.40
#3163 [22:47] <mib_yqnf5s> and it is running perfectly in port 80
#3164 [22:48] <Guigly> Lutzee, i also tried another computer in the house, to no avail.#
#3165 [22:48] <lutzee> mib_yqnf5s, you shouldn't have touched the hosts file
#3166 [22:49] <mib_yqnf5s> why not?
#3167 [22:49] <lutzee> you should remove the address completely from the hosts file
#3168 [22:49] <lutzee> so that your ISP's DNS servers can handle the request
#3169 [22:49] <mib_yqnf5s> why?
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#3171 [22:49] <lutzee> incase the session servers IP address changes
#3172 [22:49] <mib_yqnf5s> yeah, i know
#3173 [22:49] <mib_yqnf5s> but for now it works
#3174 [22:49] <SkrandyGaming> lutzee, with or without the quotes?
#3175 [22:50] <lutzee> er
#3176 [22:50] <lutzee> go with first
#3177 [22:50] <lutzee> arround the minecraft_server.exe bit
#3178 [22:50] <SkrandyGaming> yeah
#3179 [22:50] <SkrandyGaming> okay now what
#3180 [22:51] <lutzee> press enter and tell me what happens
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#3182 [22:52] <SkrandyGaming> Invalid initial heap size -Xms1.5G
#3183 [22:52] <SkrandyGaming> error: could not vreate the Java Vitual Machine
#3184 [22:52] <lutzee> er
#3185 [22:52] <SkrandyGaming> error A fatal exception has occurred. program will exit
#3186 [22:52] <lutzee> okay
#3187 [22:52] <lutzee> change that to 1G
#3188 [22:52] <lutzee> instead of 1.5G
#3189 [22:52] <SkrandyGaming> i try agian?
#3190 [22:53] <SkrandyGaming> same cmd?
#3191 [22:53] <lutzee> same command but change the 1.5G bit to just 1G
#3192 [22:53] <SkrandyGaming> it's runnning
#3193 [22:53] <SkrandyGaming> :D
#3194 [22:53] <lutzee> okay goody
#3195 [22:54] <lutzee> Now that bat file? change the 1.5G to 1G in that ;)
#3196 [22:54] <SkrandyGaming> how do i know it has 3gb?
#3197 [22:54] <Sky_Crafts> Okay, it says i needed ti change my system prefrences, so i did because i need to allow cookies for the payment and i changed it to allow cookies but it still says i need to change it?
#3198 [22:54] <SkrandyGaming> okay, lutzee i did that
#3199 [22:54] <lutzee> Sky_Crafts, the Xmx3G tells it the max ram it can use is 3G
#3200 [22:54] <lutzee> er
#3201 [22:54] <lutzee> sorry Sky_Crafts
#3202 [22:54] <lutzee> not you
#3203 [22:54] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, the Xmx3G tells it the max ram it can use is 3G
#3204 [22:55] <Sky_Crafts> so confused :( new to this
#3205 [22:55] <SkrandyGaming> and my server now runs with 3gb?
#3206 [22:55] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, yes if it needs it it will use up to 3gb or ram
#3207 [22:55] <lutzee> but only if it needs it
#3208 [22:55] <lutzee> It will start only using 1gb
#3209 [22:55] <SkrandyGaming> ah
#3210 [22:55] <SkrandyGaming> sweet
#3211 [22:56] <lutzee> Sky_Crafts, where does it say that?
#3212 [22:56] <SkrandyGaming> another problem i'm having is that when some of my freinds try any play on my server, they cant move and they see black, and i assume thats the void
#3213 [22:56] <Sky_Crafts> when i click checkout payment or whatever
#3214 [22:56] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, hmmm sounds like your internet or their internet is not up to the task
#3215 [22:56] <lutzee> as in to slow
#3216 [22:57] <Sky_Crafts> i allowed cookies but it still says i have to change it but i already did
#3217 [22:57] <lutzee> Sky_Crafts, you might have to start the process again,
#3218 [22:57] <lutzee> refresh the page
#3219 [22:57] <SkrandyGaming> its not everyone though, one of my freinds is perfectly fine...it's just everyone else. :/
#3220 [22:57] <Sky_Crafts> okay, leeme check and thank you .
#3221 [22:57] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, it's probably their internet
#3222 [22:57] <SkrandyGaming> do you wana give it a go?
#3223 [22:57] <Guigly> Lutzee, any idea on my problem yet?
#3224 [22:58] <lutzee> Guigly, no idea :(
#3225 [22:58] <Guigly> Damnit.
#3226 [22:58] <Guigly> Anyway I can contact the site or?
#3227 [22:58] <Sky_Crafts> are we allowed to swear on here XD just dont want to get in trouble and banned or something
#3228 [22:58] <lutzee> Guigly, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#3229 [22:58] <Guigly> thankyou
#3230 [22:59] <lutzee> Sky_Crafts, er no a bot will kickyou :)
#3231 [22:59] <Sky_Crafts> lol
#3232 [22:59] <lutzee> !check 50.92.163.83
#3233 [22:59] <lutzee> 153ms from that bot
#3234 [22:59] <SkrandyGaming> O_O
#3235 [22:59] <SkrandyGaming> thats awsome :P
#3236 [23:00] <Sky_Crafts> DONT LEAVE YET lutzee !! u kno alot
#3237 [23:00] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, 177ms from me
#3238 [23:00] <SkrandyGaming> lutzee i ment you play the server :S see if it loads correctly for you and suck.
#3239 [23:00] <SkrandyGaming> and such*
#3240 [23:01] <lutzee> Sky_Crafts, it's 4 am here..
#3241 [23:01] <Sky_Crafts> Cookies are required in order to continue with your payment. Please enable cookies by changing your browser's Preferences/Options. If you have a third-party cookie manager or option you will have to configure it to allow cookies from our payment provider 'Moneybookers' in order to pay. ---thats what it says
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#3243 [23:02] <lutzee> Sky_Crafts, theres not much i can suggest apart from contacting moneybookers
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#3245 [23:02] <Sky_Crafts> what are moneybookers?!
#3246 [23:02] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, i timed out, is the server still on
#3247 [23:02] <SkrandyGaming> yeah
#3248 [23:03] <lutzee> ??> Sky_Crafts payment
#3249 [23:03] <VoxelHead> Sky_Crafts: (payment) Mojang doesn't process money directly from payments made. They accept payment made through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of payment through those sites, your account will be credited with premium status. This process has been known to take a few hours. Be patient.
#3250 [23:03] <VoxelHead> Sky_Crafts: (payment) If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through mailto:help@mojang.com
#3251 [23:03] <SkrandyGaming> you arnt whitelisted :S
#3252 [23:03] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, that's probably why
#3253 [23:03] <sevenstorms> evening all
#3254 [23:03] <SkrandyGaming> whats ur minecraft?
#3255 [23:03] <lutzee> lutzee
#3256 [23:03] <lutzee> :)
#3257 [23:03] <SkrandyGaming> ahah. try agian
#3258 [23:03] <Sky_Crafts> :( I just wanted to play this game! not wait
#3259 [23:04] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, it's not appearing as online :(
#3260 [23:04] <SkrandyGaming> 50.92.163.83?
#3261 [23:04] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, go to speedtest.net and see how fast your internet is
#3262 [23:04] <lutzee> Sky_Crafts, these problems occur in life :(
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#3264 [23:05] <SkrandyGaming> it's working fine fore me, lutzee
#3265 [23:05] <lutzee> SkrandyGaming, but you are on the same network :p
#3266 [23:05] <SkrandyGaming> click the server anyway
#3267 [23:05] <SkrandyGaming> :P
#3268 [23:05] <lutzee> yeah times out :p
#3269 [23:05] <SkrandyGaming> hmm
#3270 [23:06] <SkrandyGaming> thats odd
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#3272 [23:06] <SkrandyGaming> the server works, i know that
#3273 [23:06] <lutzee> Obviously my connection to surrey in canada isn't great :/
#3274 [23:06] <SkrandyGaming> i i dont live in surrey XD
#3275 [23:07] <lutzee> meh can't be far from you :p
#3276 [23:07] <SkrandyGaming> no its not. lol
#3277 [23:07] <lutzee> but 4am
#3278 [23:07] <lutzee> i should sleep
#3279 [23:07] <lutzee> blegh
#3280 [23:07] <SkrandyGaming> you should.
#3281 [23:07] <SkrandyGaming> :P
#3282 [23:08] <SkrandyGaming> watch my videos? <3
#3283 [23:09] <Sky_Crafts> i dont know how to do this
#3284 [23:10] <SkrandyGaming> zen still up?
#3285 [23:11] <SkrandyGaming> well. thanks for the help if you're still here :)
#3286 [23:11] <SkrandyGaming> well. thanks for the help if you're still here :)
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#3288 [23:14] <Arle> Hey, I found a new folder in my .minecraft called 'texturepacks-mp-cache'
#3289 [23:14] <Arle> out of interest, what is that?
#3290 [23:18] <Lukario45> minecraft 1.3.1 wont load >.<
#3291 [23:18] <Arle> It loads fine for me.
#3292 [23:18] <Lukario45> Luck
#3293 [23:19] <Lukario45> Now it terminated
#3294 [23:19] <Lukario45> -_-
#3295 [23:19] <Lukario45> Minecraft Play nice with windows 7 today plese
#3296 [23:20] <Lukario45> -_-
#3297 [23:20] <Arle> what's happening?
#3298 [23:20] <Lukario45> Not Responding
#3299 [23:20] <Lukario45> + Added writeable books YES
#3300 [23:20] <Lukario45> I CANT WAIT TO WRITE A BOOK VIA MC xD
#3301 [23:21] <Arle> Those would be awesome in adventure maps :)
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#3303 [23:22] <libraryaddict> !login
#3304 [23:22] <Lukario45> + Single-player now runs a server internally what does that mean?
#3305 [23:22] <libraryaddict> It starts up a server. Then joins the server
#3306 [23:22] <Arle> yeah, it runs a server at localhost.
#3307 [23:22] <Lukario45> So u have to have internet now :O
#3308 [23:23] <Arle> Like Host & Play in Terraria.
#3309 [23:23] <libraryaddict> no
#3310 [23:23] <Lukario45> can other people join it?
#3311 [23:23] <libraryaddict> If you open it up
#3312 [23:23] <Lukario45> ok
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#3314 [23:23] <Arle> That means you can't pause any more, though, can you?
#3315 [23:23] <Lukario45> I cant wait for mc to load
#3316 [23:23] <Lukario45> it wont load!
#3317 [23:24] * Arle is still on Minecraft 1.2.5 until TooManyItems comes out for 1.3.
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#3319 [23:24] <Lukario45> aRLE
#3320 [23:24] <Arle> lUKARIO45
#3321 [23:24] <wannabemac> is it just me or is it doen
#3322 [23:24] <Lukario45> U can use commands in Single player now xD
#3323 [23:24] <Arle> yeah :)
#3324 [23:24] <wannabemac> down*
#3325 [23:25] <tryy3> is minecraft server down? (the login server) cuz i cant get in
#3326 [23:25] <Lukario45> So why use to manny items
#3327 [23:25] <Arle> For if the world doesn't have it enabled.
#3328 [23:25] <Lukario45> tryy3 i cant get in either
#3329 [23:25] <wannabemac> me neither, its down
#3330 [23:25] <tryy3> i guess i wait then
#3331 [23:25] <Arle> AuBot can't get in either.
#3332 [23:25] <Lukario45> :( someone check Twitter
#3333 [23:26] <Lukario45> !paid Lukario45
#3334 [23:26] <Arle> also, TMI makes a great lookup table :)
#3335 [23:26] <Lukario45> True
#3336 [23:26] <Lukario45> is modding minecraft leagal xD
#3337 [23:27] <Lukario45> DiskDaemon
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#3339 [23:27] <tryy3> nope fully illegal but still modloader have 100m downloads :D
#3340 [23:27] <Lukario45> wtfff!
#3341 [23:27] <slowfi> too many items and single player commands seem like cheating to me
#3342 [23:28] <Lukario45> It is xD
#3343 [23:28] <Arle> It depends how you use it.
#3344 [23:28] <Lukario45> Single player cmds isnt a mod tho
#3345 [23:28] <Arle> Yes it is
#3346 [23:28] <slowfi> that's simply playing another game
#3347 [23:28] <Arle> yeah, it's called 'creative mode'.
#3348 [23:28] <Lukario45> + Added “cheats” option in single-player (enables commands)
#3349 [23:28] <tryy3> oh
#3350 [23:28] <tryy3> servers up :D
#3351 [23:29] <Arle> !login
#3352 [23:29] <Lukario45> !login
#3353 [23:29] <Lukario45> Then y wont it work for me AuBot
#3354 [23:30] <tryy3> idk
#3355 [23:30] <Arle> You probably have a different problem.
#3356 [23:30] <tryy3> i just got in :D
#3357 [23:30] <Lukario45> -_-
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#3359 [23:30] <Lukario45> It jsut wont load its a black screen
#3360 [23:31] <Arle> Do you have any mods installed?
#3361 [23:31] <Lukario45> ;_:
#3362 [23:31] <Lukario45> :/
#3363 [23:31] <Lukario45> Lemme in Minecraft
#3364 [23:31] <Arle> :/
#3365 [23:32] <Lukario45> Im rebooting my PC now
#3366 [23:32] <Arle> Try a force update, now the server's back.
#3367 [23:32] <Lukario45> i just upda
#3368 [23:32] <slowfi> I'm waiting for optifine for 1.3. I don't think that's cheating
#3369 [23:32] <VvoodVvolf> what happened to the logon server?
#3370 [23:32] <VvoodVvolf> was down for a few min
#3371 [23:33] <Arle> It took an arrow in the knee
#3372 [23:33] <VvoodVvolf> :|
#3373 [23:33] <slowfi> oh yeah arrow in the knee from skyrim
#3374 [23:37] <VvoodVvolf> 28 mods down 7 to go :)
#3375 [23:38] <Wug> wtf 35 mods
#3376 [23:38] <Wug> y u do dis
#3377 [23:38] <Wug> WHY DO YOU HATE FUN
#3378 [23:38] <VvoodVvolf> cause after u have done weat farm that harvest 1000 weat there mothing much left to do...
#3379 [23:38] <VvoodVvolf> *theres
#3380 [23:39] <tryy3> make tnt and explode the weat farm?
#3381 [23:39] <Wug> that might be cause for like 4 or 5 mods
#3382 [23:39] <slowfi> I have to keeo resetting my minecraft password every other day. How do I fix that?
#3383 [23:39] <tryy3> and then rebuild it :D
#3384 [23:39] <Wug> slowfi: change your email password
#3385 [23:39] <Wug> so whoever keeps stealing it cant anymore
#3386 [23:39] <Wug> :S
#3387 [23:39] <VvoodVvolf> too boring
#3388 [23:39] <VvoodVvolf> yawn
#3389 [23:39] <VvoodVvolf> i like to make NUKES :)
#3390 [23:40] <Wug> or, get rid of whatever keyloggers you're running
#3391 [23:40] <VvoodVvolf> much for fun than tnt
#3392 [23:40] <VvoodVvolf> pff tnt
#3393 [23:40] <Wug> they like to masquerade as free smilets
#3394 [23:40] <Wug> smileys*
#3395 [23:40] <Wug> and those funny little animated cursor things
#3396 [23:40] <slowfi> ok, maybe that's it. somebody keeps guessing my password and changing it
#3397 [23:40] <Wug> do you keep setting it to the same thing>
#3398 [23:40] <Wug> ?
#3399 [23:42] <slowfi> I'll redo the change password procedure and give it a more secure password
#3400 [23:42] <slowfi> maybe that will work
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#3402 [23:45] <VvoodVvolf> 30 mods down
#3403 [23:45] <VvoodVvolf> getting there
#3404 [23:45] <tryy3> what version are you on :S
#3405 [23:45] <VvoodVvolf> 1.2.5
#3406 [23:45] <VvoodVvolf> no mods for 1.3.1 yet
#3407 [23:46] <VvoodVvolf> forge hasn't been update yet
#3408 [23:46] <VvoodVvolf> nothing will get updated till that happoens
#3409 [23:46] <VvoodVvolf> *happens
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#3411 [23:46] <tryy3> theres a few
#3412 [23:46] <VvoodVvolf> well yes
#3413 [23:46] <tryy3> but i think they are'nt requiring any apis
#3414 [23:47] <VvoodVvolf> but not the big ones
#3415 [23:47] <VvoodVvolf> only small block adding ones
#3416 [23:47] <tryy3> and modloader came out not for long ago so soon more will than its just to wait for forge
#3417 [23:47] <VvoodVvolf> like diff colour bricks
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#3419 [23:47] <VvoodVvolf> the big ones are w8 for forge
#3420 [23:47] <tryy3> modloader and forge is the biggest api out there are'nt they?
#3421 [23:47] <slowfi> the old gravel was more beautiful
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#3423 [23:48] <tryy3> slowfi change texture then?
#3424 [23:48] <VvoodVvolf> modloader doesn't work with forge
#3425 [23:48] <VvoodVvolf> u have to pick 1
#3426 [23:48] <tryy3> it does'nt?
#3427 [23:48] <VvoodVvolf> nope
#3428 [23:48] <tryy3> oh
#3429 [23:48] <tryy3> but i used it in 1.2.5?
#3430 [23:48] <tryy3> had modloader and forge
#3431 [23:48] <VvoodVvolf> forge has it own mod loader and modloader mp all in 1
#3432 [23:49] <tryy3> but will mods that required modloader still work with FML?
#3433 [23:49] <VvoodVvolf> now just need to find some ids for advanced solapannels
#3434 [23:49] <VvoodVvolf> forges mods loder?
#3435 [23:49] <VvoodVvolf> doesn't think so
#3436 [23:49] <tryy3> aw
#3437 [23:50] <tryy3> not even simple things?
#3438 [23:50] <VvoodVvolf> mod loader didn't do something right and so modloader couldn't use it
#3439 [23:50] <VvoodVvolf> *forge couldn't use
#3440 [23:50] <tryy3> oh
#3441 [23:51] <VvoodVvolf> so the forge team had to writ their own
#3442 [23:51] <VvoodVvolf> and have been doing since
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#3444 [23:51] <tryy3> but i been having forge and modloader at same time for long time even in 1.2.5
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#3446 [23:52] <VvoodVvolf> have u had mods like forestry buildcraft and ic2?
#3447 [23:53] <tryy3> ye
#3448 [23:53] <tryy3> had 41 mods i belive
#3449 [23:53] <VvoodVvolf> hmm suppose to give alot of problems with forestry
#3450 [23:53] <tryy3> or forestry i skipped i belive
#3451 [23:54] <VvoodVvolf> kk
#3452 [23:54] <tryy3> but BC, EE, IC2, RP was the main mods then i had many others
#3453 [23:55] <VvoodVvolf> im w8ing for ee3 to come out
#3454 [23:55] <tryy3> http://pastebin.com/iSA2VXyG i still got it :D, thats my mod list
#3455 [23:55] <tryy3> well modloader was'nt listed there
#3456 [23:55] <tryy3> but i think it was running
#3457 [23:56] <slowfi> ok, it works again
#3458 [23:56] <VvoodVvolf> well im running a white listed private server
#3459 [23:56] <tryy3> k
#3460 [23:56] <VvoodVvolf> so can't count logistic
#3461 [23:56] <VvoodVvolf> great mods though
#3462 [23:56] <VvoodVvolf> can't w8 till they update
#3463 [23:56] <tryy3> :p
#3464 [23:57] <tryy3> like half of those mods i never used and probly wont in nearest future :D
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#3466 [23:57] <VvoodVvolf> kk
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