#MinecraftHelp > 2012-08-11
#1 [00:19] * ZiraLynn [ZiraLynn@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2 [00:20] <ZiraLynn> i need assistance setting up a server. nothing i seem to find has been able to help me correct the problem of connection timeout
#3 [00:20] <xales> ZiraLynn: Did you port forward?
#4 [00:20] <ZiraLynn> yes
#5 [00:20] <xales> What address are you having people try to connect to?
#6 [00:21] <ZiraLynn> the address that pops up in the server window when i start the server up
#7 [00:21] <xales> Which is...?
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#10 [00:23] <ZiraLynn> 192.168.1.65
#11 [00:23] <zkxs> :/
#12 [00:23] <langkid1> Hm?
#13 [00:23] <ZiraLynn> what?
#14 [00:23] * langkid1 believes that is a local address[citation needed]
#14 [00:23] <xales> ZiraLynn: That's a local address, which means it will only work if the people you are trying to play with are on the same network are you.
#15 [00:24] <xales> ZiraLynn: You need to give people your external address
#16 [00:24] <ZiraLynn> then how do i set it up to work with other people
#17 [00:24] <ZiraLynn> which one is taht?
#18 [00:24] <zkxs> 99.137.249.219
#19 [00:24] <xales> http://whatismyip.com/
#20 [00:24] <langkid1> !check ZiraLynn
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#22 [00:24] <langkid1> hm, I thought it took nicks?
#23 [00:24] <zkxs> wugbot takes nicks
#24 [00:24] <zkxs> ;check WugBot
#25 [00:25] <banfierb> anyone know if since the servers are down, if the downloads themselves wont work?
#26 [00:25] <xales> banfierb: The downloads should still work; are you having some sort of issue?
#27 [00:25] <banfierb> yes, it just constantly downloads an undersized zip file.
#28 [00:25] <banfierb> then sends them strait to the trash
#29 [00:26] <ZiraLynn> im having someone check it for me
#30 [00:26] <xales> banfierb: What OS are you on?
#31 [00:26] <banfierb> mac
#32 [00:26] <ZiraLynn> same error, Connection timed out: connect
#33 [00:26] <xales> Is the problem that it says something like "Minecraft is corrupt"?
#34 [00:27] <banfierb> something like that yeah
#35 [00:27] <xales> ZiraLynn: The problem is one of: you gave them the wrong address, you port-forwarded incorrectly, your firewall is blocking it, or the server isn't running
#36 [00:27] <xales> ??> banfierb mac/gatekeeper
#37 [00:27] <VoxelHead> banfierb: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#38 [00:28] <auscompgeek> zkxs: WugBot isn't here
#39 [00:28] <zkxs> I know
#40 [00:28] <CreepShow> im having a problem connecting to my own server. it gets stuck at "downloading terrain" is this a particularly common error?
#41 [00:28] <ZiraLynn> i unblocked it from firewall, i gave the address you told me me to, and the server is up. (ive been able to get it up for myself) if i port forwarded wrong, then i dont know what to do
#42 [00:28] <banfierb> thanks guys, i think tht did the trick
#43 [00:29] <xales> ZiraLynn: What firewall(s) do you use?
#44 [00:29] <xales> CreepShow: Try making a new world, and see; if your computer is particularly underpowered, that may be related as well.
#45 [00:29] <ZiraLynn> windows, but i may have found my issue when looking at the port forwarding... :( i feel dumb
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#47 [00:30] <lhw18> how do i make a book??
#48 [00:30] <xales> lhw18: http://minecraftwiki.net/
#49 [00:30] <lhw18> i can't get it to work
#50 [00:30] <Andrio> You need a piece of leather now
#51 [00:30] <lhw18> oh
#52 [00:30] <zkxs> lhw18: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Book
#53 [00:30] <lhw18> that amkes sense
#54 [00:30] <Andrio> Someone at school had that problem too.
#55 [00:31] <zkxs> Minecraft at school! Kids these days :P
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#57 [00:31] <Andrio> Is there a problem?
#58 [00:31] <zkxs> I play minecraft at school plenty :P
#59 [00:31] <Andrio> lol
#60 [00:31] <Andrio> I host a server at school.
#61 [00:31] <CreepShow> it runs fine when i make a new world. i do recall someone showing me how to fix the problem but don't remember which files to delete. i know players was one of them
#62 [00:32] <xales> CreepShow: So, if you run the server with a new world then it works? The old world was corrupt, then.
#63 [00:32] <zkxs> My school made that rather difficult. They eventually blocked MC's auth servers
#64 [00:32] <xales> zkxs: haha
#65 [00:32] <Andrio> Mine does that too. So we put the servers on offline mode :P
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#67 [00:33] <zkxs> We couldn't login, so we ended up with the default name 'Player'. If two people tried to join a server, the new 'Player' would kick out the old one.
#68 [00:34] <Andrio> Go get a cracked launcher
#69 [00:34] <zkxs> Hopefully my new school will have more lax filtering
#70 [00:34] <Andrio> They tried to block MinecraftSP.exe at my school. And it took about a day for people to get around that.
#71 [00:35] <CreepShow> I can't say that's what i wanted to hear but thanks so much for your help
#72 [00:35] <zkxs> Rename to asdf.exe?
#73 [00:35] <xales> zkxs: Hash rule
#74 [00:35] <xales> or whatever it's called
#75 [00:35] <xales> :p
#76 [00:35] <Andrio> no... they're not (yet) that stupid.
#77 [00:35] <xales> in group policy
#78 [00:35] <zkxs> I had a teacher who blocked quake by the filename :P
#79 [00:35] <Andrio> They tried to block Terraria by the filename once.
#80 [00:35] <zkxs> a lot of people ended up playing asdf.exe
#81 [00:35] <xales> lol
#82 [00:36] <zkxs> Also, my school wasn't clever enough to block jar files
#83 [00:36] <Andrio> Not only did it take me five seconds to bypass it, now the incident is logged on my server.
#84 [00:37] <Andrio> On which I also have a custom registry editor and a MinecraftSP.jar
#85 [00:39] <zkxs> lol, the most fun I had at my school was when I noticed the 'everyone' group had write access to one of the service executables
#86 [00:39] <Andrio> lol
#87 [00:39] <Andrio> So, what chaos ensued from that?
#88 [00:39] <xales> zkxs: DACLs are lovely, aren't they >_>
#89 [00:40] <xales> zkxs: you can find files with certain permissions with some CLI util :D
#90 [00:40] <xales> cd C:\Windows
#91 [00:40] <xales> *that program*
#92 [00:40] <zkxs> Well, I replaced it with something that would give me a command prompt. Which seeing as it was a service, had full System access
#93 [00:41] <zkxs> My laptop's BIOS are retarded. I set a password, but it still allows access to the boot device menu? >:(
#94 [00:41] <zkxs> s/are/is/
#95 [00:42] <xales> zkxs: easy enough to pop the battery on a laptop, too :p
#96 [00:42] <mfunk> Would anyone mind helping me troubleshoot a personal minecraft server problem? Been running a personal server on my PC behind my router/cable modem for over a year, and have changed nothing except upgrading to 1.3.1, and it has suddenly stopped being visible to the client.
#97 [00:43] <mfunk> Ports are forwarded, my router IP is in the DMZ of my Comcast 'gateway/cable modem', and online port checks show the port as open when my server is running. But the MC client continually gives me "Can't reach server" to me and others when trying to connect to my external IP + port..
#98 [00:43] <xales> mfunk: Interesting. You may not be able to connect using your own external IP, you may need to use 127.0.0.1
#99 [00:43] <xales> Does it work when you connect that way?
#100 [00:44] <mfunk> xales: right, I can connect to my own server via localhost, but others play with me, too, so they have been connecting to my external IP + port, until recently
#101 [00:45] <xales> Have you checked to see if your external address has changed?
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#103 [00:45] <mfunk> It hasn't -- I've triple checked that :)
#104 [00:45] <xales> Hmm. Local address hasn't changed either?
#105 [00:45] <mfunk> Nope. Unless ipconfig is lying to me
#106 [00:45] <uplusion23> Hey, anyone here willing to help a slight noob with a C# Minecraft Launcher for a custom .jar?
#107 [00:45] <xales> Did you change anything in the server.properties file? Is the "server-ip" setting left at the default (which is empty)?
#108 [00:46] <mfunk> It's empty.. I didn't change anything there.
#109 [00:46] <xales> uplusion23: #risucraft is probably a better place to go for developing Minecraft-related things
#110 [00:46] <xales> mfunk: Any firewall software running on the server machine?
#111 [00:46] <uplusion23> xales: Thanks.
#112 [00:47] <mfunk> xales: Any windows 7 default. I looked up firewall rules last night and added the minecraft-server.exe to the rules last night and still nothing... though it's the same windows 7 running that I've had since running since beta
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#115 [00:48] <xales> mfunk: Is the server running at the moment?
#116 [00:48] <Andrio> Elystus, hi
#117 [00:48] <mfunk> It is
#118 [00:48] <mfunk> This is probably suicide, but it's at 24.18.45.150 : 1138
#119 [00:49] <mfunk> I've backed up my current world save ;)
#120 [00:49] <xales> mfunk: Okay, I'm not seeing any issues connecting
#121 [00:49] <xales> xales@destiny ~ % netcat -vv c-24-18-45-150.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 1138
#122 [00:49] <xales> c-24-18-45-150.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.18.45.150] 1138 (encrypted-admin) open
#123 [00:49] <mfunk> Right. That's what I see too.
#124 [00:49] <xales> yeah, server is working
#125 [00:49] <xales> ÿTook too long to log inTotal received bytes: 49
#126 [00:49] <xales> Total sent bytes: 0
#127 [00:49] <mfunk> The MC client insists Can't reach server
#128 [00:49] <xales> hmm
#129 [00:49] <xales> what version are you running?
#130 [00:50] <mfunk> And I get connection refused when I try to connect
#131 [00:50] <Elystus> Hey Andrio
#132 [00:50] <mfunk> 1.3.1 on both client / server
#133 [00:50] <Elystus> On Vacation right now... kinda >_>
#134 [00:50] <xales> mfunk: I connected just fine
#135 [00:50] <mfunk> I see that!
#136 [00:51] <mfunk> I wish I could connect to my own server :(
#137 [00:51] <mfunk> I mean ... I can with an internal IP... but...
#138 [00:51] <xales> Yeah, you probably have to use the internal address
#139 [00:51] <uplusion23> What's the problem?
#140 [00:51] <xales> other people should be able to use "24.18.45.150:1138" though to connect
#141 [00:51] <mfunk> they can't though, that's the main issue
#142 [00:52] <mfunk> well, some can't
#143 [00:52] <uplusion23> Portforwarded, Correct?
#144 [00:52] <mfunk> correct
#145 [00:52] <xales> uplusion23: I checked everything, there's no problems
#146 [00:52] <uplusion23> Hmm.
#147 [00:52] <uplusion23> xales: Okay. This is weird,
#148 [00:52] <xales> mfunk: It's more likely an issue with them; they are probably entering it incorrectly, or copy and pasting the IP and leaving spaces, or something
#149 [00:53] <mfunk> I mean, given networks, there is no reason why I couldn't connect to my own server by going to the external IP, right?
#150 [00:53] <xales> Some routers are stupid and won't route their own packets
#151 [00:53] <mfunk> aha
#152 [00:53] <mfunk> ok
#153 [00:53] <uplusion23> xales: Did he unblock the port on his hosting system?
#154 [00:53] <xales> (the cheap modems Comcast gives are known for being crappy)
#155 [00:53] <xales> uplusion23: Yeah, it's not a configuration issue, I connected fine
#156 [00:54] <mfunk> fair enough. Yeah, I run Tomato 1.28 and the incoming connection logs show nothing when I try to connect.
#157 [00:54] <mfunk> Though it shows incoming connections when I test the port externally
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#159 [00:55] <leon> hello?
#160 [00:55] <mfunk> xales: Thanks for the advice -- I may be back if my friends continue to have problems, but hopefully that won't be the case.
#161 [00:55] <leon> Xales
#162 [00:55] <xales> Hi.
#163 [00:55] <leon> Remember me?
#164 [00:55] <xales> Uhh, not off the top of my head, sorry.
#165 [00:55] <leon> Guys with problems for texture pack
#166 [00:55] <leon> with emeralds
#167 [00:55] <xales> Oh, yes, okay
#168 [00:56] <leon> Well my friend has a problem when he opens his mine craft it says corrupt files he tried deleting an dredownload but doesn't work
#169 [00:56] <uplusion23> mrfunk: Put your server to offline mode, Then try to have people join, only for a test.
#170 [00:57] <uplusion23> mrfunk: This should tell where the problem is.
#171 [00:57] <xales> leon: They are on a Mac, right?
#172 [00:57] <leon> Yes
#173 [00:57] <xales> ??> leon mac/gatekeeper
#174 [00:57] <VoxelHead> leon: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#175 [00:58] <uplusion23> Xales: Any other channels that could help me? #risucraft seems to be flooded with talk of old games.
#176 [00:58] <leon> first tab is general
#177 [00:58] <leon> but can't seem to find the anywhere
#178 [00:59] <xales> uplusion23: Pooosibly #coders but people that work with C# aren't common in these parts; you could try somewhere on Freenode (there are a number of C# and Minecraft-related channels there), or a forum, or somehing
#179 [00:59] <xales> leon: Are they running Mountain Lion?
#180 [00:59] <uplusion23> Xales: Thanks
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#182 [01:00] <leon> Well him idk but i have lion and can't see on the button of general the word Anywhere
#183 [01:00] <xales> leon: Well, as the message said, it is something that was added with Mountain Lion.
#184 [01:02] * R4WxFaactor [R4WxFaactor@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#185 [01:03] <R4WxFaactor> When i try to load the game it says update done but it is stuck at the loading screen
#186 [01:03] <leon> Ok thanks he had Mountain lion i only have lion so didn't see that but with Skype i figured that out thanks
#187 [01:03] <leon> Cya beasts
#188 [01:04] <leon> I love you guys no homo
#189 [01:04] <xales> R4WxFaactor: Are you trying to play the demo?
#190 [01:04] <R4WxFaactor> yes
#191 [01:04] <xales> That's the problem
#192 [01:04] <xales> the demo doesn't work at the moment
#193 [01:04] <xales> sorry.
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#195 [01:05] <R4WxFaactor> oh ok. Well im just waiting till they upgrade my account.
#196 [01:05] <xales> It should take less than an hour, sometimes it can take 24 though. If you still aren't premium after that long, check with your bank to make sure the transaction went through.
#197 [01:06] <xales> There is a bug where, it will show you a "payment denied" message, and if you click okay on that message, it will take you back to minecraft.net
#198 [01:06] <xales> which then says "payment successful"
#199 [01:06] <xales> (even though it actually has no idea, it just assumes the payment worked if you came back from the payment site)
#200 [01:07] <R4WxFaactor> well it says success on the payment page but I never get an email
#201 [01:07] <R4WxFaactor> well it says success on the payment page but I never get an email
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#203 [01:09] <xales> Then, the payment probably didn't go through.
#204 [01:09] <xales> Did you, by any chance, try to use a prepaid or "gift" card?
#205 [01:10] <R4WxFaactor> no
#206 [01:10] <R4WxFaactor> ioh well
#207 [01:10] <ntyson6> Hi all, where do i go to reload my game i am new as of a few weeks and have had problems in the game ever since??
#208 [01:10] <xales> ??> ntyson6 forceupdate
#209 [01:10] <VoxelHead> ntyson6: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#210 [01:10] <VoxelHead> ntyson6: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#211 [01:11] <xales> R4WxFaactor: You should check with your bank then; if there is no record of a transaction, then you won't get your account upgraded, because you didn't actually buy it. In many cases, banks will block the purchase, because Mojang/Minecraft is in Sweden.
#212 [01:11] * zkxs hopes my dumb laptop bios is clever enough to boot from a logical partition
#212 [01:11] <xales> You'll have to ask them to allow it.
#213 [01:12] <R4WxFaactor> thank you xales for your help any chance you know when the demo will be up and working???
#214 [01:12] <xales> R4WxFaactor: Probably not for a while, possibly even a few weeks
#215 [01:12] <ntyson6> ok, Thanks i will try that!
#216 [01:13] <R4WxFaactor> ok thanks. Ill continue to work on this problem
#217 [01:13] <R4WxFaactor> bye
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#220 [01:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Wow.
#221 [01:14] <xales> ?
#222 [01:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecraft crashed for the first time in forever.
#223 [01:14] <xales> If you're running 1.3.1, yeah. It's a bit crashy.
#224 [01:15] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.3? 1.3's the most buggiest thing I've played since alpha.
#225 [01:15] <xales> yeah, I'm surprised there hasn't been a bugfix release yet
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#228 [01:29] <SinZ> xales: Im guessing so modders dont have to start all over again
#229 [01:30] <auscompgeek> SinZ: at least MCP wouldn't have to update in that case
#230 [01:30] <SinZ> the obfuscation would re-arrange the classes, so they would need to still
#231 [01:31] <SinZ> it wouldnt be as big of an update, but still have to do an update
#232 [01:34] <auscompgeek> oh, true
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#236 [01:55] <Jamie8u> are the servers messed up?
#237 [01:55] <Jamie8u> ok
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#241 [01:57] <TheScavenger> Guessing that MC has some issues with AUTH again ?
#242 [02:02] <AnchorWing> Does anyone eles have problem while connecting to any game server too?
#243 [02:04] <Zimsky> My players seem to be having issues too
#244 [02:04] <Zimsky> bloody login servers
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#246 [02:06] <jamy_> Did you know tha..........
#247 [02:06] <jamy_> jks
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#249 [02:12] <Scott> .sitedown
#250 [02:12] <Scott> DopeGhoti ^
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#252 [02:13] <tylerm> hey guys cant get on any server anyone no y
#253 [02:13] <tylerm> auth servers down AGAIN?
#254 [02:14] <tylerm> hello
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#256 [02:15] <tylerm> hey guys cant get on any server anyone no y
#257 [02:15] <tylerm> auth servers down AGAIN?
#258 [02:15] <Grimmest> I am so glad I decided to come here.
#259 [02:15] <tylerm> y
#260 [02:15] <tylerm> no ones here
#261 [02:16] <Grimmest> I started freaking because I wasn't able to log into a friends server... then my own server. then I google'd the error and it came up with old treads about the server being down.
#262 [02:17] <Grimmest> I looked on the site and skimmed the fourms and didn't see anything. Came in here and bam got an answer instantly.
#263 [02:18] <Grimmest> and I see they left about a minute before I finished my rant...
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#265 [02:20] <meh> When I try to connect to my server, it tells me " FAILED TO LOG IN. SERVER RETURNED HTTP RESPONSE CODE:
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#267 [02:20] <meh> How do I get into my server
#268 [02:20] <auscompgeek> auth servers are down
#269 [02:21] <meh> Oh
#270 [02:21] <meh> It's not on my end then ?
#271 [02:21] <auscompgeek> .status
#272 [02:21] * auscompgeek fails
#272 [02:21] <meh> Huh ?
#273 [02:21] <Grimmest> oops.
#274 [02:21] <Jamy_> This happens WAY to much
#275 [02:22] <auscompgeek> mhm.
#276 [02:22] <Grimmest> I want to say better it happens at 2 am est than at 5 pm.
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#278 [02:23] <su> God damn it
#279 [02:23] <su> Always when I'm doing important stuff Auth servers go down
#280 [02:23] <Necrodoom> isnt it always down
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#286 [02:28] <MarylandITGuy> Haha, my question is already answered by the bot. Thanks.
#287 [02:28] <Linkoz> lol
#288 [02:28] <MarylandITGuy> Very efficient.
#289 [02:28] <Linkoz> !aubot
#290 [02:28] <Linkoz> no?
#291 [02:28] <Linkoz> okay.jpg
#292 [02:28] <hyubs> oh noesssssssssss multiplayer is not working
#293 [02:28] <MarylandITGuy> That's actually good news, I was thinking I had corrupted java registry files.
#294 [02:29] <Linkoz> lol i was plaining to stay up and play :/
#295 [02:29] <MarylandITGuy> Same here.
#296 [02:29] <Linkoz> I have not gotten to in a long time.
#297 [02:30] <MarylandITGuy> You have any idea how long this session error is gonna last? There's no info about it on mc.net either.
#298 [02:30] <Linkoz> it's prob going to be a long while.. Like last time.
#299 [02:30] <MarylandITGuy> How long was it last time?
#300 [02:31] <MarylandITGuy> I just bought the game like last week, first time I've had any trouble connecting.
#301 [02:31] * Linkoz forgets
#301 [02:31] <Linkoz> well it's an awesome game
#302 [02:31] <Linkoz> and this RARELY happens
#303 [02:31] <MarylandITGuy> Yeah I've never had more fun doing.. nothing. Lol.
#304 [02:31] <Linkoz> Lol
#305 [02:31] <Linkoz> I was on Tekkit and got this error
#306 [02:32] <Linkoz> well that error lol
#307 [02:32] <MarylandITGuy> I just made a little server and am getting used to playing with my gf and my dad, I'm a newbie but so far it's been fun.
#308 [02:33] <MarylandITGuy> Anyway thanks for the info. I'm going to head out. =)
#309 [02:33] <Linkoz> Oh nice.
#310 [02:33] <Linkoz> Np
#311 [02:33] <Grimmest> MarylandITGuy, I am in a similar boat. first time having problems, bought the game like two weeks ago.
#312 [02:33] <Linkoz> rofl
#313 [02:33] <Grimmest> damn it, did he leave right before I posted that!
#314 [02:33] <Linkoz> yeah lol
#315 [02:34] <Grimmest> batting 1000 tonight...
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#317 [02:36] <auscompgeek> hmm...
#318 [02:36] <auscompgeek> hmm...
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#321 [02:37] <sniper123> Every time i attempt to join minecraft i get this error please help or suggest a way i could fix this, : minecraft: error java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP respponse code: 503 for URL: http//session.minecraft.net/game/joinserver..jsp?user=123sniper123&sessionId=4283570294029351812&serverId=62
#322 [02:37] * nicocappa [nicocappa@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#323 [02:37] <auscompgeek> sniper123: read what the bot said
#324 [02:38] <sniper123> Oh
#325 [02:38] <sniper123> lol
#326 [02:38] <nicocappa> Yeah, i wonder why :P
#327 [02:38] <sniper123> :P
#328 [02:38] <sniper123> But somehow
#329 [02:38] <nicocappa> ?
#330 [02:38] <sniper123> 10 people are on the server
#331 [02:38] <sniper123> Must be left overs.......
#332 [02:38] <nicocappa> yeah, if u dont log out u can stay in
#333 [02:38] <nicocappa> sadly, i logged out -_-
#334 [02:38] <auscompgeek> sniper123: they didn't log out yet
#335 [02:38] <Grimmest> I was one for awhile, logged out because I got stuck... :(
#336 [02:38] <sniper123> :(
#337 [02:38] <nicocappa> :/
#338 [02:39] <Grimmest> damn trees and growing rapidly/randomly.
#339 [02:39] <sniper123> xD
#340 [02:39] <nicocappa> lol
#341 [02:39] * Lawlmanx_ [Lawlmanx_@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#342 [02:39] <sniper123> Well, im guessing tekkit runs off minecraft servers aswell...
#343 [02:39] <sniper123> So i wont be able to connect to those
#344 [02:39] <Grimmest> I made a court yard and was walking over a sapling and bam it poped into a tree and I got stuck inside.
#345 [02:40] <nicocappa> agg I wish they'd fix it already :/
#346 [02:40] <sniper123> Im sure there working on it
#347 [02:40] <nicocappa> LOL
#348 [02:40] <Lawlmanx_> Ice Ice
#349 [02:40] <nicocappa> baby
#350 [02:40] <Lawlmanx_> :D
#351 [02:40] <nicocappa> I hope
#352 [02:40] <Grimmest> "all this pressure pushing down on me."
#353 [02:40] <Grimmest> wait wrong song...
#354 [02:40] <nicocappa> lol xD
#355 [02:40] <sniper123> lol...
#356 [02:41] <Grimmest> damn happy feet 2
#357 [02:41] <sniper123> Well, Im going to some steam games Bye...
#358 [02:41] <Grimmest> later.
#359 [02:41] <sniper123> Any of you own Garrysmod?
#360 [02:41] <nicocappa> hey i just met you... and this is crazy, I'm joseph kony AND IM TAKING YO BABY
#361 [02:41] <sniper123> Guess not
#362 [02:41] <nicocappa> nah
#363 [02:41] <sniper123> Goodbye...
#364 [02:41] <nicocappa> i dont
#365 [02:41] <nicocappa> Cya
#366 [02:42] <Lawlmanx_> ce ice baby Ice ice baby All right stop Collaborate and listen Ice is back with my brand new invention Something grabs a hold of me tightly Then I flow that a harpoon daily and nightly Will it ever stop? Yo, I don't know Turn off the lights and I'll glow To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal Light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle Dance Bum rush the speaker that booms I'm killin' your brain like a poisonous mushroom D
#367 [02:42] <Grimmest> I used to. forgot login info.
#368 [02:42] <nicocappa> do an email thing
#369 [02:42] <Grimmest> I might now that I have time...
#370 [02:42] <nicocappa> :P
#371 [02:42] * Rockj [Rockj@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#372 [02:43] <Grimmest> It just isn't the same. I really have gotten addicted to Minecraft.
#373 [02:43] <nicocappa> hahahaha, I know the feeling
#374 [02:43] <Rockj> Q: I receive 503 whentrying to logon an minecraft server, is this usual?
#375 [02:43] <nicocappa> Read the autobot
#376 [02:43] <Grimmest> damn Redstone circuits why do they have to be so interesting!
#377 [02:44] <nicocappa> u should try redpower
#378 [02:44] <Grimmest> ?
#379 [02:44] <Rockj> autobot?
#380 [02:44] * Grimmest googles.
#380 [02:44] <nicocappa> its a mod in tekkit
#381 [02:44] <Lawlmanx_> Guys after 3 million tax payers dollars we have the answer to the question on your mind it is gays are ... GAY
#382 [02:44] <auscompgeek> Rockj: read what AuBot sent you. kthxbai.
#383 [02:44] <auscompgeek> Rockj: read what AuBot sent you. kthxbai.
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#386 [02:46] <Lawlmanx_> ....
#387 [02:47] <Rockj> oh, didn't see any message window or anything, appear to appear under server buffer and without highlight. sorry for just asking a question, normally I find such information in topics but hey what I guess il take my leave
#388 [02:47] <nicocappa> Well what it said was:
#389 [02:47] <nicocappa> -AuBot- 1,4Minecraft is currently experiencing difficulties, chances are you probably can't log in. Please don't tell us, we already know.
#390 [02:48] <Grimmest> lol
#391 [02:49] <Rockj> its not sent as a private message, so I didnt see it when joining so sorry. anyway, atleast more then me has the problem and I guess it will be fixed asap when it gets fixed. from experience is there some ca. eta?
#392 [02:49] <nicocappa> oh no i wasnt blaming you or anything, and uhh what's ca. eta?
#393 [02:50] <Rockj> or just wait and hope for it to be resolved quickly and our computer party can go on having fun in MC :-)
#394 [02:51] <nicocappa> hahaha yeah I hope so.. I wanna get back on tekkit :/
#395 [02:51] <Rockj> ca. as in circa. eta as in estimated time of arrival (of service return)
#396 [02:51] <Grimmest> has anyone tried singleplayer with LAN share?
#397 [02:51] <nicocappa> ahh ok
#398 [02:51] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: yes
#399 [02:51] <Lawlmanx_> Tekkit is amazing
#400 [02:51] <nicocappa> no, cuz no1 else in my house owns MineCraft xD
#401 [02:51] * frogmella [frogmella@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#402 [02:51] <Grimmest> SSH tunnel??
#403 [02:51] <Grimmest> lol
#404 [02:51] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: turns out both clients need a firewall exception for it to work properly (from my experience)
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#406 [02:52] <nicocappa> ahh cool
#407 [02:52] <frogmella> Why if i try to login to a server it gives an error?
#408 [02:52] <nicocappa> -AuBot- 1,4Minecraft is currently experiencing difficulties, chances are you probably can't log in. Please don't tell us, we already know.
#409 [02:52] <Blix> So, any chance it'll repair anytime soon?
#410 [02:52] <nicocappa> ^^^
#411 [02:52] <Blix> When do u think it will?
#412 [02:52] <frogmella> Can someone help me?
#413 [02:53] <nicocappa> Not sure :/ hopefully soon
#414 [02:53] <frogmella> Can someone help me?
#415 [02:53] <Blix> yea
#416 [02:53] <frogmella> Why if i try to login to a server it gives an error?
#417 [02:53] <nicocappa> -_-
#418 [02:53] <nicocappa> -AuBot- 1,4Minecraft is currently experiencing difficulties, chances are you probably can't log in. Please don't tell us, we already know.
#419 [02:53] <Blix> Its going on to all of us bro
#420 [02:53] <nicocappa> read the autobot :P
#421 [02:53] <frogmella> me?
#422 [02:53] <nicocappa> yes
#423 [02:53] <frogmella> i have 1.3.1
#424 [02:53] <nicocappa> ij
#425 [02:53] <nicocappa> ik
#426 [02:53] <Blix> WE ALL DO
#427 [02:53] <nicocappa> -AuBot- 1,4Minecraft is currently experiencing difficulties, chances are you probably can't log in. Please don't tell us, we already know.
#428 [02:53] <Grimmest> It has really ben a long time since I've been on IRC, I forgot what a NOTICE was.
#429 [02:53] <Grimmest> been *
#430 [02:54] <Lawlmanx_> ■■■■
#431 [02:54] <frogmella> 1,,4Minecraft?
#432 [02:54] <Blix> Think it will be fixed by tomorrow?
#433 [02:54] <nicocappa> idk
#434 [02:54] <Rockj> 1,4 is probably just a color code that doesn't work in NOTICE messages
#435 [02:54] <Grimmest> ??
#436 [02:54] <nicocappa> I Wish they'd hurry up and fix it..
#437 [02:54] <Blix> yea
#438 [02:54] <Lawlmanx_> F■■k all creepers
#439 [02:54] <nicocappa> "/
#440 [02:54] <frogmella> why can some log in?
#441 [02:54] <nicocappa> they cant
#442 [02:55] <nicocappa> they havent logged out
#443 [02:55] <frogmella> they can
#444 [02:55] <Rockj> 1,4 This is 1,4 color code I think
#445 [02:55] <nicocappa> ahhh
#446 [02:55] <nicocappa> nice
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#448 [02:55] <Grimmest> oh that is what you were talking about..
#449 [02:55] <nicocappa> No Frog they havent logged out
#450 [02:55] <Lawlmanx_> ƒƒ±e☻☻
#451 [02:55] <nicocappa> 1,5 test
#452 [02:55] <ObliviArt> hello again
#453 [02:55] <frogmella> when is it going to be fixed?
#454 [02:55] <nicocappa> 1,4test
#455 [02:55] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: fail
#456 [02:55] * noahcrawford [noahcrawford@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#457 [02:55] <nicocappa> lol idk how to use it xD
#458 [02:55] <Lawlmanx_> {{╚@ÄÄA3A█
#459 [02:55] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: learn to IRC
#460 [02:55] <auscompgeek> wait, no
#461 [02:56] <nicocappa> lol this is my first time xD
#462 [02:56] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: get a real IRC client
#463 [02:56] <OffMercy> 1,4 This is 1,4 color code I think
#464 [02:56] <Grimmest> man I forgot all the scripts I added to mIRC when I was on another network.
#465 [02:56] <OffMercy> WWOAH!
#466 [02:56] <nicocappa> there are IRC clients? O.o
#467 [02:56] <ObliviArt> is mc having any issues atm?
#468 [02:56] <OffMercy> 1,5 This is 1,4 color code I think
#469 [02:56] * Coldking [Coldking@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#470 [02:56] <Smanly> http://xpaw.ru/mcstatus/
#471 [02:56] <frogmella> when is it going to be fixed?
#472 [02:56] <nicocappa> This is 1,4 color code I think
#473 [02:56] <OffMercy> 1.5 THIS IS AWESOME
#474 [02:56] <nicocappa> FUU
#475 [02:56] * auscompgeek facepalms
#475 [02:56] <OffMercy> AWWW ;(
#476 [02:56] <Coldking> WTF is going on with mc
#477 [02:56] <Grimmest> I'm with you auscompgeek
#478 [02:56] <OffMercy> IDK
#479 [02:56] <Coldking> cant connect to Fol servers
#480 [02:57] * Rockj shouldn't have done that, now everyone plays with colors :p
#480 [02:57] <nicocappa> READ THE DAMN AUTOBOT
#481 [02:57] <auscompgeek> Coldking: -AuBot- 1,4Minecraft is currently experiencing difficulties, chances are you probably can't log in. Please don't tell us, we already know.
#482 [02:57] <Grimmest> RTFN
#483 [02:57] <OffMercy> 1.5 THIS IS AWESOME
#484 [02:57] <Grimmest> lmao
#485 [02:57] <OffMercy> 1.5 safTHIS IS AWESOME
#486 [02:57] <OffMercy> 1.5 safTHIS IS AWESOME
#487 [02:57] <Lawlmanx_> σ.ô
#488 [02:57] <OffMercy> WTf ;(
#489 [02:57] <noahcrawford> Hey, all of a sudden I was lagged out of my online server, and whenever I try to get back on it gives me a very odd error message. I have tried resetting Minecraft too, but still nothing. Do you guys want to see the error message?
#490 [02:57] <ObliviArt> so mc is out then...
#491 [02:57] <OffMercy> dude! thats so cool!
#492 [02:57] <OffMercy> !
#493 [02:57] <OffMercy> !
#494 [02:57] <nicocappa> -AuBot- 1,4Minecraft is currently experiencing difficulties, chances are you probably can't log in. Please don't tell us, we already know.
#495 [02:57] <Rockj> hihi, that notice should really been sent as PM or something
#496 [02:57] <Coldking> oky well
#497 [02:57] <frogmella> when is it going to be fixed?
#498 [02:57] <Rockj> or simply put in topic
#499 [02:57] <nicocappa> PEOPLE THERE IS A FRIGGIN AUTOBOT READ IT
#500 [02:57] <Coldking> is there any chance i can get a ETa on when it will be fixed
#501 [02:57] <auscompgeek> Rockj: notices are meant to be.... NOTICEs.
#502 [02:57] <Grimmest> I am not totally sure what some of that code is. I feel like I am missing a format.
#503 [02:57] <OffMercy> .status
#504 [02:57] <nicocappa> .help
#505 [02:57] <auscompgeek> OffMercy: it no work
#506 [02:57] <Rockj> I guess most clients just put NOTICE in server status buffer
#507 [02:58] <nicocappa> fuuu
#508 [02:58] <nicocappa> I didnt know there were IRC clients..
#509 [02:58] <auscompgeek> Rockj: most clients I've seen dump it in the current view
#510 [02:58] * schwehringHil [schwehringHil@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#511 [02:58] <Grimmest> mIRC default is to display it in all channels you are in with that person sending it to you.
#512 [02:58] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: yeah, we all use webchat </sarcasm>
#513 [02:58] <nicocappa> ?!?1
#514 [02:59] * nicocappa test
#514 [02:59] <nicocappa> YES!
#515 [02:59] <OffMercy> Minecraft, I'm going to twist your non weed dick!
#516 [02:59] <auscompgeek> if we all did that, webchat would've broken by now
#517 [02:59] <Grimmest> I've built a IRC client from the RFC back when I was in college. It is fun.
#518 [02:59] <nicocappa> </sarcasm>
#519 [02:59] <nicocappa> FUU
#520 [02:59] <OffMercy> XD
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#522 [02:59] <Lawlmanx_> ╔
#523 [02:59] <nicocappa> \(*_*)/ <---- he is holding up this whole conversation
#524 [02:59] <OffMercy> Fuhdabunkoordationlicker
#525 [03:00] <auscompgeek> btw Rockj
#526 [03:00] * Unkowncraft [Unkowncraft@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#527 [03:00] <auscompgeek> I saw what you did to me earlier
#528 [03:00] <DJP> So, does anyone know why I can't connect to any servers?
#529 [03:00] <nicocappa> omfg
#530 [03:00] * charliehumble [charliehumble@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#531 [03:00] <nicocappa> READ THE AUTOBOT
#532 [03:00] <nicocappa> -AuBot- 1,4Minecraft is currently experiencing difficulties, chances are you probably can't log in. Please don't tell us, we already know.
#533 [03:00] <DJP> It says Connection Lost
#534 [03:00] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: autobot?
#535 [03:00] <Lawlmanx_> ╔╗
#536 [03:00] <DJP> oh Ok
#537 [03:00] * Grimmest [Grimmest@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#538 [03:00] <auscompgeek> DJP: lrn2read
#539 [03:00] <nicocappa> -AuBot-
#540 [03:00] <Grimmest> that was strange...
#541 [03:00] <Grimmest> that was strange...
#542 [03:00] * Unkowncraft [Unkowncraft@notlogged] has left #minecrafthelp
#543 [03:00] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: au is not short for auto
#544 [03:01] * Unkowncraft [Unkowncraft@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#545 [03:01] <nicocappa> uhh im pretty sure it is
#546 [03:01] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: no it isn't.
#547 [03:01] <OffMercy> 1,5 This is 1,4 color code I think
#548 [03:01] <nicocappa> dafuq then what is it for -_-
#549 [03:01] <Rockj> auscompgeek: its not that I'm new to IRC , just havent received an NOTICE in ages and really havent seen what the default action for displaying notices was in weechat
#550 [03:01] <OffMercy> 1,5 NOOB
#551 [03:01] <OffMercy> YES!
#552 [03:01] <DJP> auscompgeek: I JUST JOINED
#553 [03:01] * mib_9fy7td [mib_9fy7td@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#554 [03:01] <auscompgeek> Rockj: ah, I see.
#555 [03:01] * Tesco_Duck [Tesco_Duck@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#556 [03:01] <auscompgeek> DJP: the bot sent you a message when you joined .-.
#557 [03:01] <OffMercy> 1,8 I was watching you sleep last night.
#558 [03:02] <nicocappa> .1,4 color code Y U NO WORK
#559 [03:02] <Rockj> auscompgeek: IRC since 1994 or something, yawn.
#560 [03:02] <OffMercy> 1,8 I was watching you sleep last night.
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#562 [03:02] <OffMercy> 1,8 I was IT WAS SO HHOOOTT
#563 [03:02] <Price> What is 1,4?
#564 [03:02] <Price> What is 1,4?
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#566 [03:02] <auscompgeek> Rockj: yeah, most terminal-based clients send NOTICEs to the server window
#567 [03:02] <auscompgeek> Price: ignore that, it's meant to be a color code
#568 [03:02] <Grimmest> It is the color code theyt are useing.
#569 [03:02] <Price> oh ok
#570 [03:02] <Andrio> 1 is black
#571 [03:03] <Andrio> 4 is red
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#573 [03:03] <Price> I see
#574 [03:03] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: it's *meant* to be a color code, just that the network is filtering out the ^K
#575 [03:03] <OffMercy> 1,8 What are you talking about?
#576 [03:03] <Grimmest> oh nice.
#577 [03:03] <auscompgeek> either that, or the bot is broken
#578 [03:03] * Unkowncraft [Unkowncraft@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#579 [03:03] <Price> :P
#580 [03:03] <nicocappa> 1, why doesnt this work
#581 [03:03] <nicocappa> fuu
#582 [03:03] * auscompgeek tests on self
#582 [03:03] <nicocappa> *boom*
#583 [03:03] <OffMercy> 1,8 Join This Server: Play.MWPvP.com I'll show you
#584 [03:04] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: hm. it's the bot.
#585 [03:04] <Grimmest> 14,0 *Blink"
#586 [03:04] <nicocappa> 촕
#587 [03:04] <OffMercy> 1,8 Join This Server: Play.MWPvP.com I'll show you
#588 [03:04] <Grimmest> did that work, or get stripped?
#589 [03:04] <auscompgeek> REVERSE VIDEO
#590 [03:04] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: it worked
#591 [03:04] <nicocappa> *Blink"
#592 [03:04] <Necrodoom> OffMercy: shut or ban
#593 [03:04] <OffMercy> 1,8 OK fine. ;(
#594 [03:04] <nicocappa> God damnit :/
#595 [03:04] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: this channel isn't +c
#596 [03:05] <Grimmest> ah ya.
#597 [03:05] <nicocappa> peripheral.wrap
#598 [03:05] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: and it's working for OffMercy :P
#599 [03:05] <nicocappa> how do u do the color thing :P
#600 [03:05] <Grimmest> nicocappa: I would ask what client you are running....
#601 [03:06] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: look at ident
#602 [03:06] <Unkowncraft> Guys why arnt ANY servers working?
#603 [03:06] <Unkowncraft> Guys why arnt ANY servers working?
#604 [03:06] <nicocappa> umm no client I just went to esper.net
#605 [03:06] <auscompgeek> Unkowncraft: DO NOT REPEAT YOURSELF. kthx.
#606 [03:06] <OffMercy> 1,9 You Gyus are mean...!!! >:)
#607 [03:06] <Grimmest> auscompgeek: ya that is what I was getting at, lol.
#608 [03:06] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: yes you are using a client
#609 [03:06] <Unkowncraft> Sorry i get a error when i try to join my server
#610 [03:06] <nicocappa> uhh
#611 [03:06] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: it is called webchat
#612 [03:06] <Grimmest> it is just a web client.
#613 [03:06] <nicocappa> Cool
#614 [03:07] <Andrio> The 4webchat is still a client
#615 [03:07] * auscompgeek facepalms on behalf of nicocappa
#615 [03:07] <Grimmest> nicocappa VERSION reply]: iris v0.90 -- Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/534.52.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1.2 Safari/534.52.7
#616 [03:07] <OffMercy> 1,9 Dude I love music so much!
#617 [03:07] <nicocappa> how do I make colorful stuff
#618 [03:07] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: he's using Safari? eww
#619 [03:07] <nicocappa> ?
#620 [03:07] <nicocappa> Mac>pc
#621 [03:07] <OffMercy> 1,9 It changes when you're cool.
#622 [03:07] <Grimmest> I forget the char for the beginning, I think it is Chr(13)
#623 [03:07] <Unkowncraft> Can someone fix the Minecraft Servers so we can log on?
#624 [03:07] <auscompgeek> nicocappa: get a real browser
#625 [03:07] <OffMercy> 1,23 See?
#626 [03:08] <Grimmest> wait that is lf nvm.
#627 [03:08] <OffMercy> 1,2 See?
#628 [03:08] <nicocappa> nah, chrome sucks and I love safari
#629 [03:08] <Unkowncraft> `
#630 [03:08] <auscompgeek> Unkowncraft: nope. only Mojang employees can do that
#631 [03:08] <OffMercy> 1,2 See?
#632 [03:08] <nicocappa> Chr(13)derp
#633 [03:08] <nicocappa> lol
#634 [03:08] <auscompgeek> OffMercy: they're asleep right now
#635 [03:08] <Andrio> Grimmest, it's 4Chr(3).
#636 [03:08] <OffMercy> 1,3 Man im so cool ?
#637 [03:08] <Unkowncraft> Then why is this the Help page?
#638 [03:08] * Wug kicked OffMercy from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ffMercy :OffMercy)
#639 [03:08] <Grimmest> Andrio thank you.
#640 [03:08] <nicocappa> Chr(3)
#641 [03:08] <Unkowncraft> I need help
#642 [03:08] <nicocappa> fuuuu
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#644 [03:08] <Grimmest> so he should be able to do alt+0003 ? maybe?
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#646 [03:09] <Wug> ping an op if someone is out of hand
#647 [03:09] <auscompgeek> m. right.
#648 [03:09] <Wug> some clients have shortcuts for color codes
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#650 [03:09] <OffMercy> hi! :)
#651 [03:09] <Wug> OffMercy: behave yourself
#652 [03:09] <Grimmest> wait not windows. nvm.
#653 [03:09] <OffMercy> ok im sorry
#654 [03:09] <OffMercy> sorry
#655 [03:10] <Unkowncraft> Someone fix dis "beaver dam" Problum
#656 [03:10] <Wug> Unkowncraft: minecraft auth servers are dead right now it seems
#657 [03:10] <Wug> you'll have to wait it out.
#658 [03:10] <auscompgeek> Unkowncraft: this isn't a help page, this is a community support channel :)
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#660 [03:11] <Unkowncraft> Thats nice XD
#661 [03:12] <ackoco> hello there
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#664 [03:12] <ackoco> anyone able to login to their servers?
#665 [03:13] <nicocappa> -AuBot- 1,4Minecraft is currently experiencing difficulties, chances are you probably can't log in. Please don't tell us, we already know.
#666 [03:13] <Wug> ackoco: auth servers are down
#667 [03:13] <auscompgeek> ackoco: as the bot would've told you, auth servers are down
#668 [03:13] <Grimmest> nicocappa you have that in your clipboard don't you ?
#669 [03:13] <Grimmest> lol
#670 [03:13] <ackoco> thanx a lot
#671 [03:13] <nicocappa> yes
#672 [03:13] <auscompgeek> Wug: what's happened to WugBot?
#673 [03:14] <Wug> auscompgeek: its in statis
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#675 [03:14] <Wug> i.e. it needs an update and im lazy
#676 [03:14] <Wug> it will be back sometime
#677 [03:14] <auscompgeek> ah :)
#678 [03:14] <auscompgeek> ah :)
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#683 [03:14] <Tazimus> Dude
#684 [03:14] <Tazimus> I am angry with this.
#685 [03:15] <Wug> Tazimus: login server is getting a rewrite
#686 [03:15] <Tazimus> I can talk here, and in every other room I've been in except minecraft
#687 [03:15] <Wug> it requires a registered nick
#688 [03:15] <Wug> you're not registered
#689 [03:15] <Tazimus> I know I'm supposed to register
#690 [03:15] <Tazimus> i don't know how
#691 [03:15] <Tazimus> I was at the page where I was supposed to do it
#692 [03:15] <auscompgeek> Tazimus: /msg NickServ help register
#693 [03:15] <Tazimus> I don't get it
#694 [03:15] <Grimmest> lol
#695 [03:15] <Wug> use "/msg nickserv help register"and follow the directions
#696 [03:16] <Tazimus> sigh
#697 [03:16] <Grimmest> another web chat. but that command should work even in the web chat right?
#698 [03:16] <Tazimus> I think I pissed Lord off
#699 [03:16] <Andrio> I don't think NickServ cares what client you're using
#700 [03:17] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: yes
#701 [03:17] <Tazimus> I left a nasty message on some random thread
#702 [03:17] <auscompgeek> Andrio: as long as your client works, it's fine
#703 [03:17] <Andrio> yeah lol
#704 [03:17] <Wug> Grimmest: messaging nickserv will work on all sensible clients
#705 [03:17] <Tazimus> If I can talk here, why not there? Why the register? It makes no sense.
#706 [03:17] <Wug> and most retarded ones
#707 [03:17] <Grimmest> Andrio, I was meaning that /msg becomes a raw message PRIVMSG:
#708 [03:17] <Wug> Tazimus: because that channel has decided that to curb spam, users must register
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#710 [03:18] <Wug> it's been that way forever.
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#712 [03:18] <Tazimus> that sucks
#713 [03:18] <KnockMadness> Hello
#714 [03:18] <Tazimus> they curbed retards too
#715 [03:18] <Wug> that's ok/
#716 [03:18] <Tazimus> I guess that's good for them
#717 [03:18] <fauge7> when will the servers be back up
#718 [03:18] <Grimmest> Most main channels I have encountered require registered for +v
#719 [03:18] <Tazimus> I have never used irc before today.
#720 [03:19] <Grimmest> ah
#721 [03:19] <KnockMadness> i got the free version and havent recieved my code
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#723 [03:19] * Grimmest *blink*
#723 [03:19] <Tazimus> is there just some sort of regular chatroom to talk about minecraft?
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#725 [03:20] <Rockj> Wug: just to clear something up, will it be a long lasting issue as you mention as the auth service requires an "update and im lazy" , should we just skip thinking about MC this weekend or something on our computer party?
#726 [03:20] <falco> ok lol seems like my question is answered when joining this channel :p :p
#727 [03:20] <Wug> Rockj: no lol, wugbot requires an update and im lazy
#728 [03:20] <Wug> no idea when the auth servers will be back up
#729 [03:20] <Rockj> aha, ok. Was a bit worried -__-'
#730 [03:20] <Wug> though it usually isnt more than a few hours
#731 [03:21] <Tazimus> So...
#732 [03:22] <stupidperson> test
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#734 [03:22] <Grimmest> nice I still have FiSH script installed!
#735 [03:22] <stupidperson> Wug, I was referring to the main MC channel...?
#736 [03:23] <Wug> stupidperson: what?
#737 [03:23] <stupidperson> Nevermind.
#738 [03:23] <stupidperson> Lol, who else was right in the middle of something, went to relog and got errored?
#739 [03:23] <Wug> you need to register to speak there
#740 [03:23] <stupidperson> I did!
#741 [03:23] <stupidperson> I think?
#742 [03:23] <Wug> youre not logged in
#743 [03:24] <Tazimus> dude
#744 [03:24] <stupidperson> Register where exactly? o.O
#745 [03:24] <Wug> here
#746 [03:24] <auscompgeek> stupidperson: /msg NickServ help register
#747 [03:24] <Grimmest> stupidperson: I would have been one of those. Tree sprouted with me inside it.
#748 [03:24] <Wug> stupidperson: ^ this makes a big block of text
#749 [03:24] <Wug> read the whole thing
#750 [03:24] <Wug> then follow the relevant instructions
#751 [03:25] <Tazimus> I am soo sorry, i typed '/msg nickserv Tazimus tazimus@gmail.com' and it was like 'no'
#752 [03:25] <stupidperson> Brb with a new name i hope
#753 [03:25] <stupidperson> Brb with a new name i hope
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#755 [03:26] <Wug> Tazimus: somethings missing, can you spot it
#756 [03:26] <Grimmest> Tazimus requires a password, I don't recommend pasting that whole thing in a chat though, only the server window.
#757 [03:26] <Wug> read the help message again
#758 [03:26] <Wug> protip: copy and paste
#759 [03:26] <Wug> then substitute
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#761 [03:26] <Grimmest> ya
#762 [03:26] <Tazimus> I TOTALLY copied and pasted
#763 [03:26] <Wug> then proofread
#764 [03:26] <auscompgeek> Grimmest: nope, there's another something missing
#765 [03:26] <Tazimus> I'l try again
#766 [03:26] <Wug> lol no you didnt
#767 [03:26] <Wug> you forgot a word
#768 [03:26] <Grimmest> Syntax: REGISTER <password> <email-address>
#769 [03:27] <Wug> DICKFARETS: wtf are you doing
#770 [03:27] <dvdg101> Can you read that?
#771 [03:27] <Wug> dvdg101: yes
#772 [03:27] <dvdg101> o.O
#773 [03:27] <Wug> you need to register to speak in #minecraft
#774 [03:27] <auscompgeek> dvdg101: why? what's wrong?
#775 [03:27] <Grimmest> lmao!! I didn't even see that Wug
#776 [03:27] <Wug> is that what you're asking about
#777 [03:27] <fauge7> register
#778 [03:27] <dvdg101> I am so confused! Sleep deprevation does not help.
#779 [03:27] <fauge7> oh
#780 [03:28] <fauge7> yay i can talk
#781 [03:28] <dvdg101> Can you see that?
#782 [03:28] <Wug> yes, I can still see thatr
#783 [03:28] <fauge7> why do the minecraft servers have to be down
#784 [03:28] <Wug> you already asked that.
#785 [03:28] <Tazimus> okay, do i have to check my email or is that it?
#786 [03:28] <dvdg101> Oh, mother.
#787 [03:28] <Wug> fauge7: they don't have to be, they just are
#788 [03:28] <dvdg101> Guys, watch me fail this horribly.
#789 [03:28] <Wug> bad luck I guess
#790 [03:28] <Grimmest> Tazimus yes, confirmation message is in email.
#791 [03:28] <auscompgeek> Tazimus: it gives you instructions once you send the register command
#792 [03:29] <fauge7> lol they need to upgrade there servers
#793 [03:29] <fauge7> at 7 million people bought the game
#794 [03:29] <Tazimus> It's unclear. They should make this so puppies can do it
#795 [03:29] <Wug> that's what theyre doing today
#796 [03:29] <Tazimus> I'll be back
#797 [03:29] <Wug> the outage is related.
#798 [03:29] <dvdg101> I am digging myself deeper in a hole here. Holy moly.
#799 [03:29] <Grimmest> I was thinking how many fail over server went down for it to be completely out...
#800 [03:30] <Wug> Tazimus: it's reading and following a few lines of instructions and peripheral info
#801 [03:30] <auscompgeek> Wug: hm. why do they have to take the servers down through?
#802 [03:30] <Wug> not rocket science
#803 [03:30] <fauge7> its completely out
#804 [03:30] <Wug> auscompgeek: because things break sometimes
#805 [03:30] <dvdg101> On a normal day, fine. Today, nope.
#806 [03:30] <fauge7> that sucks
#807 [03:30] <fauge7> oh well guess im getting off
#808 [03:30] <auscompgeek> Wug: ah, true.
#809 [03:30] <dvdg101> I put in the wrong e-mail to nickserv lol.
#810 [03:30] <dvdg101> OH
#811 [03:31] * Grimmest takes a sip of his mint tea.
#811 [03:31] <Tazimus> Its really not. You gotta understand, to normal people that sht is chinese, but alas it says I'm registered, which I don't see why I had to, I hope Minecraft realizes how much I love it. I just learned chinese just to chat with people.
#812 [03:31] <dvdg101> brb
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#815 [03:32] <Tazimus> hey Wug, thanks. and sorry for being a noob. I'm out.
#816 [03:32] <Wug> Tazimus: don't forget your password
#817 [03:33] <gz09> lol can you see that too?
#818 [03:33] <gz09> I have defeated you, NickServ! >: )
#819 [03:33] <Wug> gz09: good enough
#820 [03:33] <Tazimus> What password?
#821 [03:33] <Tazimus> jk
#822 [03:33] <gz09> Mine.
#823 [03:33] <Rockj> I could login!
#824 [03:33] <Rockj> yai
#825 [03:33] <Rockj> :D
#826 [03:33] <gz09> lol
#827 [03:33] <Wug> next, you don't have to quit to change your name
#828 [03:34] <Grimmest> holy sh*t
#829 [03:34] <Wug> use /nick newnamehere
#830 [03:34] <Rockj> to minecraft that is
#831 [03:34] <test123> :O
#832 [03:34] * Grimmest waits for server to drop again.
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#833 [03:34] <nicocappa> deeerrpp
#834 [03:34] <ssfdre38> !login
#835 [03:34] <Tazimus> I will never change my name, Tazimus has been my handle since I invented the internet
#836 [03:34] <Wug> mr gore, is that you
#837 [03:34] <Grimmest> lol
#838 [03:34] <Grimmest> lol
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#840 [03:35] <gz09> Thanks for bearing with me through that, gents.
#841 [03:35] <gz09> Now, how 'bout them auth servers? :-P
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#843 [03:35] <gz09> How many a'man have you got in here in the last few about them?
#844 [03:35] <Wug> they supposedly are online again
#845 [03:35] <Wug> a lot.
#846 [03:35] <nicocappa> MINECRAFT WORKS AGAIN !!! WHOO
#847 [03:35] <gz09> It's alive!
#848 [03:36] <Wug> there is always a huge spike whenever the servers drop
#849 [03:36] <gz09> ...And it's still smelting the crud out my iron.
#850 [03:36] <gz09> I'm not sure if I like #minecraft or #minecrafthelp better?
#851 [03:37] <Grimmest> Hazauh!
#852 [03:37] <gz09> I think I like here more.
#853 [03:37] <Grimmest> me too.
#854 [03:37] <Grimmest> I left #minecraft.
#855 [03:37] <Wug> go back to it
#856 [03:38] <Wug> this is a support chanel
#857 [03:38] <Wug> channel*
#858 [03:38] <Wug> not for general chatter really
#859 [03:38] <Wug> especially not times like now when the auth server is flaky.
#860 [03:38] <gz09> People seem to be more talkative on here though.
#861 [03:39] <Wug> its coincidence
#862 [03:39] <Wug> there is always a huge spike whenever the servers drop
#863 [03:39] <gz09> Awayyy!
#864 [03:39] <gz09> Awayyy!
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#866 [03:39] <gz09> Awayyy!
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#870 [03:54] <JKL> hi. when i press alt the game loses it
#871 [03:54] <JKL> 's focus. can i change that?
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#875 [04:15] <braydel> Hello
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#878 [04:19] <Guest_> hello
#879 [04:19] <Guest_> hello
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#881 [04:21] <Guest_> Can somebody help me? I can't log in to my server since i installed essentials and i don't know where the problem is, because i have no plan of such things, but i'd like to have essentials so we have money and tradesigns etc. on the server...
#882 [04:23] <Necrodoom> wrong channel
#883 [04:23] <Necrodoom> go #essentials
#884 [04:23] <Necrodoom> also, you need bukkit
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#886 [04:26] <Guest_> Sorry, my internetconnection broke down... can someone help me with my Essentials-Problem?
#887 [04:26] <Necrodoom> Guest_: go #essentials
#888 [04:26] <Necrodoom> Guest_: wrong channel
#889 [04:26] <Necrodoom> Guest_: also, you need bukkit to use bukkit plugins
#890 [04:27] <Guest_> i have, i have^^ and someone else told me i should ask in this channel. im on IRC for the first time
#891 [04:27] <Necrodoom> paste startup log then
#892 [04:28] <Guest_> but if you say so i'll ask there again
#893 [04:28] <Necrodoom> on #essentials
#894 [04:28] <Guest_> uhm... what?
#895 [04:28] <Guest_> oh, okay
#896 [04:28] <Guest_> thank you^^
#897 [04:32] <JKL> no idea with the alt problem?
#898 [04:32] <JKL> no idea with the alt problem?
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#906 [05:19] <Calinou> !login
#907 [05:19] <Calinou> *says minecraft has difficulties logging in* *works*
#908 [05:19] <Calinou> MP session server is up too
#909 [05:20] <Necrodoom> most likely needs update
#910 [05:20] <Necrodoom> most likely needs update
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#913 [05:22] <Wug> .set motd Welcome to #minecrafthelp! if you have a question, just ask it.
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#917 [05:38] <remiixx> tech support phone
#918 [05:40] <remiixx> hello
#919 [05:40] <DopeGhoti> Is there something with which you need nevermind, see ya
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#921 [05:41] <wikkit> hi, what means this spamerror on my bukkit/nitradoserver? 2012-08-11 11:40:36 [WARNING] DSCT: Too many open files pls help...
#922 [05:42] <DopeGhoti> ??> wikkit mods
#923 [05:42] <VoxelHead> wikkit: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#924 [05:42] <VoxelHead> wikkit: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#927 [05:43] <eltorian> hello
#928 [05:43] <DopeGhoti> g'morning
#929 [05:44] <eltorian> I just got minecraft for my pc, and I was hoping to be able to play it with a friend of mine (I got the xbox 360 version first, but he doesn't have that one) and I'm trying to figure out how to make it so I can host a game for us.
#930 [05:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> eltorian smp/serversetup
#931 [05:44] <VoxelHead> eltorian: (smp/serversetup) Lots of information here:
#932 [05:44] <VoxelHead> eltorian: (smp/serversetup) http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Setting_up_a_server
#933 [05:45] <eltorian> I'm not sure what to do, and I tried that server exe thing, but it just gave me a bunch of gobbledygook that almost crashed my computer.
#934 [05:45] <DopeGhoti> ??> eltorian specific
#935 [05:45] <VoxelHead> eltorian: (specific) Please be specific and give complete error or other messages verbatim. The details of these messages are very helpful in determining the nature of your problem.
#936 [05:45] <VoxelHead> eltorian: (specific) NOTE: If the message is longer than one or two lines, please use Pastebin.
#937 [05:45] <eltorian> it wasn't an error, just a window with a bunch of rapidly scrolling text that didn't make any sense.
#938 [05:46] <DopeGhoti> ..the rapidly scrolling text was probably just the server console
#939 [05:46] <eltorian> what does that mean?
#940 [05:47] <DopeGhoti> that means that it was probably perfectly normal
#941 [05:47] <eltorian> then... why didn't it start a game up or something...?
#942 [05:47] <DopeGhoti> read the wili page to which Vox linked you, and follow the directions therein
#943 [05:50] <eltorian> hm.
#944 [05:50] <eltorian> yeah, this is all greek to me.
#945 [05:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> eltorian dont/pebcak
#946 [05:51] <VoxelHead> eltorian: (dont/pebcak) If you can't understand our (generally) basic instructions, please don't even bother wasting our time if you won't listen. Fixing problems requires some amount of self-help ability, to say nothing of literacy and the ability to follow directions..
#947 [05:51] <VoxelHead> eltorian: (dont/pebcak) Keep in mind we are all volunteers - if you need more help, hire a professional.
#948 [05:54] <eltorian> dude... I just paid 25 bucks that I work hard to earn for something that isn't even set up in a way I can understand. I wasn't intending to be rude to you, I was just frustrated and feeling like I wasted my money. Now I'm getting pissed though. I get that you're a volunteer, but I didn't pay money to get insulted by some elitist.
#949 [05:55] <DopeGhoti> I'm not being elitist, I'm giving you a set of straightforward directions.
#950 [05:56] <DopeGhoti> if "download this file and run it" is all greek to you, I don't know what you expect to accomplish
#951 [05:56] <DopeGhoti> Running a server is a technical thing, which requires a modicum of technical ability, or at least the ability to read and follow directions.
#952 [05:56] <eltorian> I'm not good with programming things, okay? These instructions just don't make sense to me. I downloaded the file, and ran it, but as near as I can tell, nothing useful is happening, and there's a lot more on that page than that.
#953 [05:57] <eltorian> fuck it. I've got too much to deal with to have someone looking down their nose at me because I'm computer illiterate when I just wanted to play a damned game with my friend.
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#955 [05:57] <DopeGhoti> Well. That was fun.
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#957 [06:00] <TheNoodle> -_-
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#959 [06:06] <JKL> sorry to bother you again, but did you understand my question about the alt key disabling game focus?
#960 [06:07] <Calinou> it's intended
#961 [06:07] <Calinou> fix: don't use windows :P
#962 [06:07] <JKL> i just happen to use windows as a game platform :)
#963 [06:08] <JKL> but it's not possible to disable that behaviour?
#964 [06:08] <Calinou> playing in fullscreen mode maybe
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#966 [06:08] <Calinou> (press F11)
#967 [06:08] <JKL> jeah it works that way. but i really can
#968 [06:09] <JKL> 't play in fs :)
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#970 [06:11] <JKL> i also tried to bind alt to sneak, but still the windows7 window grabbed that alt and entered to window menu (that is the reason for the disabling focus i think)
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#975 [06:53] <UncleGord> Hi all, my nephew is pestering for Minecraft - once purhcased, are there any extra costs (I'm talking about "optional extras") or is it just the purchase fee and that's that?
#976 [06:54] <Andrio> No, I think it's just the purchase fee.
#977 [06:55] <UncleGord> ok cool thanks. I dodn;t want him to pester for "extras", I noticed some Xbox-360 items for "points" and I was wary
#978 [06:55] <Andrio> wait, you're talking about the Xbox version?
#979 [06:55] <Andrio> I don't know about Xbox. I have a Wii.
#980 [06:58] <UncleGord> No it'll be a linux box I control, bt he's an Xbox-era kid and has never had a PC before
#981 [06:58] <UncleGord> he has a very strange concept of reality that I must convert back to normal
#982 [06:58] <UncleGord> the parents are 0-clue
#983 [06:59] <TheNoodle> haha
#984 [06:59] <lutzee> Okay, the PC version has no "extras" that can be bought, player skins are free to change at will
#985 [07:00] <UncleGord> ah brilliant :) problem solved then. He gets Minecraft.
#986 [07:00] <Andrio> :)
#987 [07:00] <UncleGord> thanks all
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#989 [07:07] <lutzee> ??< gpu/intel
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#992 [07:18] <Neuroman> I have just purchased minecraft. I have a username and password. I have downloaded the zip file for OSX. When I try to log in it fails. the message is 'not downloaded' what do I do?
#993 [07:18] <Andrio> !login
#994 [07:19] <Neuroman> can anyone help?
#995 [07:20] <lutzee> What version of OSX?
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#998 [07:25] <lutzee> ??> Neuroman mac/permissions
#999 [07:25] <VoxelHead> Neuroman: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1000 [07:25] <VoxelHead> Neuroman: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1001 [07:25] <Neuroman> Thanks I'll try that!
#1002 [07:29] <Neuroman> Voxelhead, I have executed the following command in Terminal: chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
#1003 [07:30] <Neuroman> Does not seem to change anything. Still getting the message: (not downloaded)
#1004 [07:31] <lutzee> VoxelHead, is a bot :) hmm
#1005 [07:31] <lutzee> I don't own a mac so not totally sure
#1006 [07:32] <Neuroman> thank for the comment lutzee, Clearly I need mac for dummies type help!
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#1008 [07:33] <Neuroman> must be something simple but what??
#1009 [07:34] <frg> My minecraft launcher wont work i cilck on it but nothing happens
#1010 [07:34] <frg> what do i do?
#1011 [07:35] <lutzee> frg, you have java installed right?
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#1013 [07:35] <frg> yes
#1014 [07:35] <lutzee> If so it should work fine
#1015 [07:36] <frg> well its not
#1016 [07:36] <lutzee> Uninstall what you have installed now and install java 6
#1017 [07:36] <lutzee> ?? java/1.6
#1018 [07:36] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
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#1020 [07:36] <frg> hmm ill try it thx
#1021 [07:36] <lutzee> Get it there ^
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#1023 [07:39] <frg> it didnt help
#1024 [07:39] <frg> crap
#1025 [07:39] <frg> forget it
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#1055 [10:15] <PersonINneed> i need help
#1056 [10:16] <Andrio> what with?
#1057 [10:16] <PersonINneed> Mojang has been no help they wont reply or anything and im trying to recover my account on minecraft thats been hacked
#1058 [10:17] <Morrolan> Read through that support article? http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1059 [10:17] <PersonINneed> I did everything
#1060 [10:18] <Morrolan> Then you'll have to wait for Mojang to respond.
#1061 [10:18] <Morrolan> Check your e-mail account in, uh, two months.
#1062 [10:18] <PersonINneed> -.-
#1063 [10:19] <Morrolan> Actually, it seems their backlog is growing.
#1064 [10:19] <Morrolan> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#1067 [10:34] <Pyrotek> Shit, I didn't know it was *that* bad. Poor guys :
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#1070 [10:38] <Steve> When I download mine craft, I get a message that says it is damaged and can't be opened. You should move it to Trash. Any ideas? I have an iMac.
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#1072 [10:48] <Morrolan> Pyrotek - Yea, it's pretty horrible.
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#1084 [11:36] <Clorith> Hiya, so for the past months I've had issues fetching updates to minecraft, it starts downloading them, but then stops downloading at random points (and never finishes), so far my record is 33% of 1.3.1
#1085 [11:37] <Clorith> I'm not sure what could be causing this, I've done the obvious restarted my router, triedon other computers in my house, but they all have the same symptoms
#1086 [11:37] <Calinou> <_<
#1087 [11:37] * Calinou facepalms
#1087 [11:37] <Calinou> disable AVG's link scanner
#1088 [11:38] <Calinou> you might consider getting a real antivirus too
#1089 [11:38] <Clorith> I will slightly rage if that's been the issue all along >_<
#1090 [11:38] <Clorith> and avgt has always been kind to me
#1091 [11:40] <Clorith> Wow, that even sped it up by a ton, thank you SO much, you've no idea how frustrated I have been at that :D (might I recommend maybe adding that somewhere, as the problem only started recently and I've been able to update fine until then)
#1092 [11:43] <GreyVulpine> AVG's a known problem around here
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#1095 [11:49] <Clorith> ahh, got'cha
#1096 [11:49] <Clorith> Well thanks again :D
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#1103 [12:09] <deathschemist> hey, how do i install a language pack?
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#1107 [12:14] <polocatfan> do u guys help with tekkit?
#1108 [12:14] <Toad> Nope
#1109 [12:14] <polocatfan> kk
#1110 [12:15] <papaganoush> any new informaton on the "fish" in the log?
#1111 [12:16] <lutzee> sorry?
#1112 [12:17] <macer7> Deathspawn: just select it in lang menu -_-
#1113 [12:17] <macer7> oops*
#1114 [12:17] <macer7> I mean deathschemist*
#1115 [12:17] <macer7> nevermind he left IRC D:
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#1119 [12:38] <norob> having a annoying problem ever since i updated to 1.3.1 i can move around client side but server side it's like im not moving
#1120 [12:38] <papaganoush> norob are you on mac?
#1121 [12:39] <norob> no PC
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#1123 [12:39] <papaganoush> ah - I had the same problem but it was related to mac java. I fixed it my updating my java and setting the memory allocation to a fixed 512
#1124 [12:39] <norob> on 1.2.5 i had no troubles but now lol its has been nothing but trouble
#1125 [12:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Norob
#1126 [12:40] <norob> i did a re-install of java
#1127 [12:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Minecraft 1.3 is VERY laggy with bukkit servers that have plugins.
#1128 [12:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Does the server have NoCheat?
#1129 [12:40] <norob> no i it doesnt
#1130 [12:41] <lutzee> no cheat is laggy anyway
#1131 [12:41] <CrusaderDeleters> My server seems to be laggless, but it doesn't have any plugins.
#1132 [12:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Exactly.
#1133 [12:41] <norob> i don't get it lol its like im stuck in something like freecam
#1134 [12:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Until Jebs comes out with 1.3.2, and bukkit provides an update to the server software, then 1.3 will stay laggy. :c
#1135 [12:42] <lutzee> I'm on one with about 15 plugins doesn't lag any more than 1.2.5
#1136 [12:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Lutz, it depends with which type of plugin.
#1137 [12:42] <norob> i just now re-installed java so i'll see if it works but last night was bad
#1138 [12:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Nocheat is laggy cuz it takes all the informatiopn of EVERY player EVERY tick
#1139 [12:43] <norob> chunk loading is bad too
#1140 [12:43] <CrusaderDeleters> I use Java 6, because of it's stability. I won't trust 7 until it gets to the 10's.
#1141 [12:43] <lutzee> If nocheat was threaded properly it could easily be not at all laggy
#1142 [12:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep.
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#1144 [12:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Norob: Are you using Java 6?
#1145 [12:44] <norob> 7.5
#1146 [12:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh.
#1147 [12:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Try 6,
#1148 [12:44] <norob> i did the update today
#1149 [12:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Far more stable, and It works with everything.
#1150 [12:44] <norob> haven't tested to see if it works yet
#1151 [12:44] <CrusaderDeleters> Mkai.
#1152 [12:44] <norob> but if it doesn't ill try 6
#1153 [12:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright.
#1154 [12:45] <lutzee> 7u5 is known to cause a lot of problems
#1155 [12:45] <norob> ill test it now
#1156 [12:45] <CrusaderDeleters> I've always stayed with 6 (but my browser always preferred to get 7, but I don't use much java there anyways.)
#1157 [12:45] <lutzee> I use 7u3 which seems fine
#1158 [12:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Lutzee: I tell my server owner that I hate 7. He kicked me. :c
#1159 [12:46] <lutzee> Sigh, been fixing a server i'm admin on
#1160 [12:46] <lutzee> and i've noticed the autosave has stopped working
#1161 [12:46] <lutzee> it's meant to save every 15 minutes
#1162 [12:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1163 [12:46] <lutzee> but it doesn't seem to be
#1164 [12:46] <CrusaderDeleters> There's a serverI just play on.
#1165 [12:46] <CrusaderDeleters> Too laggy to play.
#1166 [12:47] <CrusaderDeleters> I lost two diamond picks from it.
#1167 [12:47] <lutzee> You have any clue what does that, and/or where i can find the settings? :p
#1168 [12:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Uh...
#1169 [12:47] <CrusaderDeleters> What are the 15 plugins? :S
#1170 [12:47] <Necrodoom> shouldnt this go #bukkit
#1171 [12:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, but I just keep it here since noone else is in need of help here
#1172 [12:48] <lutzee> Was just wondering if he knew i'll kep looking
#1173 [12:48] <norob> well it seems to have "fixed" it for now
#1174 [12:48] <norob> i can move and use stuff
#1175 [12:48] <norob> last night i couldnt even use a crafting table lol
#1176 [12:49] <CrusaderDeleters> That's great, norob. But if it comes back, you know where to find us. :)
#1177 [12:49] <norob> because server side i wasn't moving so makes me think it was a server problem and not with me but yea ill come back if it stops
#1178 [12:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright.
#1179 [12:50] <lutzee> hmm theres some sh scripts i'll see what they do..
#1180 [12:51] <lutzee> lmao, "Copyright XXX distribution and modification is strictly forbidden, yeah because like that's going to happen
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#1182 [12:51] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#1183 [12:52] <lutzee> but no, nothing here does it hmm
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#1192 [13:31] <GlitterGirl> When I try to build on my server , in some places it wont let me build for some reason and I dont know why, Anyone know why? :/
#1193 [13:31] <lutzee> There is spawn protection arround where you spawn, are you opped?
#1194 [13:31] <GlitterGirl> Yes,
#1195 [13:31] <lutzee> hmm bukkit?
#1196 [13:32] <GlitterGirl> Nope, just a regular server..
#1197 [13:32] <lutzee> hmmm you could always set the spawn protection to 0 in the config to rule that out
#1198 [13:32] <GlitterGirl> Wheres the config?
#1199 [13:34] <GlitterGirl> I dont see it in the server.properties
#1200 [13:35] <lutzee> er it should be at the top of the config
#1201 [13:35] <GlitterGirl> What do you mean by config? o.o
#1202 [13:36] <lutzee> server.properties ... but i think it's added by something else i don't run vanilla
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#1209 [13:50] <Calinou> lutzee, you cannot change spawn protection radius on vanilla servers, only bukkit
#1210 [13:50] <lutzee> Calinou, + modded lets you too,
#1211 [13:51] <lutzee> I haven't booted a vanilla server since before ffull release
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#1215 [14:13] <Pleasehelpme> when i try to play the MC demo, which i know i downloaded MC,i try to click play offline, but it says not downloaded
#1216 [14:14] <lutzee> The demo does not work at the moment,
#1217 [14:14] <lutzee> You need to have a premium member loginto the game before you can play the demo
#1218 [14:14] <lutzee> It's a known bug
#1219 [14:14] <Pleasehelpme> oh.
#1220 [14:14] <Pleasehelpme> thanks
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#1225 [14:25] <JU2T1nx26> how come when i press login the mincraft window goes away?
#1226 [14:27] <JU2T1nx26> is anyone there
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#1231 [14:44] <DHfan1> hey when I try to get on multyplayer it says can't reach server what do I do??????
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#1233 [14:45] <DHfan1> does anyone know how i can get onto multiplayer
#1234 [14:45] <DHfan1> ???
#1235 [14:46] <Mini> Does Mojang have a Mail
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#1237 [14:46] <DHfan1> they don't seem to be talking
#1238 [14:46] <jonah> can i contact minecraft.net
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#1240 [14:47] <DHfan1> I can't get onto the multiplayer server
#1241 [14:48] <DHfan1> someone help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1242 [14:49] <waterfirez> somebody used my email address to create an account. Now my son wants to make an account, but we cant. Any ideas, besides making a yahoo/hotmail account? I would rather use my current email.
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#1244 [14:50] <DHfan1> it would probably be easier to make a new email
#1245 [14:51] <waterfirez> does minecraft have a tech support/customer support phone number or email?
#1246 [14:51] <DHfan1> is there anyone out there to help us!?!?!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!?
#1247 [14:52] <DHfan1> IDK
#1248 [14:52] <DHfan1> I don't know
#1249 [14:53] <DHfan1> hello any people going to help us???!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!!!!!!!
#1250 [14:53] <DHfan1> i need help1
#1251 [14:54] <no1> "???!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!!!!!!!" makes you look like a noob, in case you were wondering why you just got muted for a second.
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#1253 [14:54] <alx2222> hey all
#1254 [14:55] <no1> it's a bot, I see. :P
#1255 [14:55] <DHfan1> ?
#1256 [14:55] <DHfan1> what?
#1257 [14:55] <DHfan1> I just need help
#1258 [14:55] <waterfirez> so no email or phone number?
#1259 [14:55] <alx2222> with what?
#1260 [14:56] <DHfan1> Multiplayer server
#1261 [14:56] <alx2222> more specifically?
#1262 [14:56] <DHfan1> It won't lt me on
#1263 [14:56] <alx2222> is it your server or some other server?
#1264 [14:56] <DHfan1> it says can't reach server
#1265 [14:56] <DHfan1> I can't get on any server
#1266 [14:57] <alx2222> try closing minecraft and then putting it on again
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#1268 [14:57] <Cisna> Hi
#1269 [14:57] <alx2222> hi
#1270 [14:57] <DHfan1> no that does not work
#1271 [14:57] <alx2222> maybe the servers are all off?
#1272 [14:58] <alx2222> or you are sure they are on
#1273 [14:58] <DHfan1> i don't think so
#1274 [14:58] <alx2222> try joining them anyways
#1275 [14:58] <alx2222> even though it says cant reach
#1276 [14:58] <DHfan1> I tryed making my own that did not work
#1277 [14:58] <DHfan1> k
#1278 [14:59] <DHfan1> it says no rout to host
#1279 [15:00] <alx2222> hmm
#1280 [15:00] <alx2222> check your firewall settings
#1281 [15:00] <alx2222> does it allow to connect to minecraft servers?
#1282 [15:00] <Cisna> No Route to host = Gateway error (Ip address urneachable)
#1283 [15:01] <DHfan1> I'll look into it
#1284 [15:01] <DHfan1> I have a make so it's probably going to be hard
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#1286 [15:02] <WaffleBuddy17> im trying to play the demo and i sais done loading but it won't come on
#1287 [15:02] <lutzee> The demo does not work at the moment,
#1288 [15:02] <lutzee> You need to have a premium member loginto the game before you can play the demo
#1289 [15:02] <lutzee> It's a known bug
#1290 [15:03] <lutzee> No i'm not a bot...
#1291 [15:03] <WaffleBuddy17> ok
#1292 [15:03] <lutzee> That was the las tfew things i said to someone else hehe
#1293 [15:03] <alx2222> lol lutzee
#1294 [15:03] <WaffleBuddy17> so i need to buy the game if i want to play it
#1295 [15:03] <alx2222> try the classic version :P
#1296 [15:04] <DHfan1> no my firewall is offf
#1297 [15:04] <lutzee> at the moment yes, Theres nothing buch we can do at the moment
#1298 [15:04] <alx2222> yeah i know it kind of sucks lol
#1299 [15:04] <DHfan1> so it's not my firewall
#1300 [15:04] <WaffleBuddy17> thats the only thing i can do
#1301 [15:04] <alx2222> DHfan1 try restarting your computer thats all i can suggest :/
#1302 [15:05] <WaffleBuddy17> ok
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#1304 [15:05] <Cisna> alx2222 & DHfan1 - No route to host is NOT a firewall or internal network problem, this means the gateway is down or has issues, so the IP address os unreachable for him.
#1305 [15:05] <DHfan1> No that does not work either
#1306 [15:05] <WaffleBuddy17> but if i puchess the game it will work
#1307 [15:05] <eltorian> hello
#1308 [15:05] <WaffleBuddy17> hello
#1309 [15:05] <DHfan1> buy the game it's worth it
#1310 [15:06] <DHfan1> if you have a good computer
#1311 [15:06] <WaffleBuddy17> lol ok
#1312 [15:06] <DHfan1> good luck
#1313 [15:06] <lutzee> WaffleBuddy17, if you don't feel secure without trying before you buy we suggest you wait
#1314 [15:06] <alx2222> anybody know if the tnt memory leak was fixed in 1.3.1?
#1315 [15:06] <Cisna> When i set the Gateway to 1.0.0.254 on my Computer, i can't reach Google & Co.
#1316 [15:06] <DHfan1> well i guess I'm gonna go to youtube for help
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#1318 [15:07] <lutzee> alx2222, 1.3 and 1.3.1 are the same versions but with different obfuscation no changes were made
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#1320 [15:07] <Cisna> But some Gateway's allows some hosts such as Google, Opera etc, but not Mojang etc.
#1321 [15:07] <alx2222> well was it fixed in 1.3 then? :P
#1322 [15:08] <eltorian> I just bought minecraft for the pc last night. Normally I'm a console gamer, but I wanted to be able to play it with a friend of mine that only has the computer version. So I'm trying to figure out how to do that, but it seems the only way is to create a server if I want it to just be the two of us. I tried one support chat from the website last night, but they were a bunch of elitists that...
#1323 [15:08] <eltorian> ...seemed to enjoy looking down their noses at me for not understanding their techno-jargon. I've been trying to make sense of the wiki page, but I need help. Can anyone please assist?
#1324 [15:08] <lutzee> eltorian, you and your friend could find a server to play on,
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#1326 [15:08] <lutzee> ?? smp/servers
#1327 [15:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#1328 [15:08] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#1329 [15:09] <lutzee> ^ you can find some on those sites
#1330 [15:09] <eltorian> I was hoping to just have the two of us play. I don't feel like dealing with griefers and such.
#1331 [15:09] <alx2222> eltorian do you have skype?
#1332 [15:09] <Cisna> Make your own server.
#1333 [15:09] <eltorian> nope
#1334 [15:09] <alx2222> i can explain it but dont feel like flooding the IRC :/
#1335 [15:09] <eltorian> is it okay if I private message you then, alx2222?
#1336 [15:10] <lutzee> eltorian, if you aren't so good with technology you might struggle to set up a server, there are small servers available that do not have 100's of active players
#1337 [15:10] <alx2222> i dont have an account
#1338 [15:10] <alx2222> 1 sec ill create one
#1339 [15:10] <lutzee> alx2222, in chat is fine
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#1341 [15:10] <lutzee> It's what this channel is for
#1342 [15:10] <alx2222> ok
#1343 [15:10] <Cisna> Is DopeGhoti available?
#1344 [15:10] <eltorian> I know, lutzee. I am struggling, but I wanna make this work.
#1345 [15:11] <lutzee> Cisna, he looks to be away
#1346 [15:11] <eltorian> hmm... DopeGhoti sounds like one of the people from last night...
#1347 [15:11] <alx2222> so first thing is, do you want to set up your server with port forwarding (so that your friend can join right in, but its way harder and you need access to your router)
#1348 [15:11] <Cisna> Okay :D
#1349 [15:11] <alx2222> or with hamachi
#1350 [15:11] <alx2222> which is way easier
#1351 [15:11] <lutzee> But using hamachi is often laggy and we do not advise it
#1352 [15:11] <Cisna> My God, NOT Hamachi please :/
#1353 [15:11] <alx2222> lol
#1354 [15:11] <alx2222> whats wrong with hamachi
#1355 [15:11] <eltorian> erm... I'm not sure. I just want one person to join, and only one person.
#1356 [15:12] <alx2222> i use hamachi all the time and i have no problems
#1357 [15:12] <lutzee> eltorian, this is easily possible there is a feature in the server that allows you to "whitelist" players
#1358 [15:12] <lutzee> So only the players whos names are in the whitelist can log into the server
#1359 [15:12] <eltorian> okay
#1360 [15:13] <alx2222> https://secure.logmein.com/products/Hamachi/download.aspx
#1361 [15:13] <lutzee> But first we need to set up your network to accept outside connections
#1362 [15:13] <alx2222> choose the unmanaged version
#1363 [15:13] <lutzee> alx2222, we advise portforwarding k thanks
#1364 [15:13] <alx2222> hmm ok
#1365 [15:13] <Nathan2055> I've heard more horror stories about Hamachi than there are Zombies in a zombie dungeon.
#1366 [15:13] <lutzee> eltorian, do you know what make and model your router is?
#1367 [15:14] <eltorian> it's a linksys... ^^;
#1368 [15:14] <Nathan2055> Use the set up instructions at http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
#1369 [15:14] <lutzee> eltorian, hmm okay, can you go look at it and find a model number?
#1370 [15:14] <alx2222> what do you all have against hamachi
#1371 [15:14] <eltorian> I tried using that, Nathan, but the jargon on there is confusing me.
#1372 [15:14] <lutzee> Nathan2055, wait till he has port forwarding set up lol, that wont explain that
#1373 [15:14] <eltorian> let me see...
#1374 [15:15] <lutzee> alx2222, it's laggy, and it sits on allocated IP addresses
#1375 [15:15] <alx2222> its not laggy :o
#1376 [15:15] <lutzee> It is compared to port forwarding
#1377 [15:15] <lutzee> you are bouncing all data via another server
#1378 [15:15] <eltorian> shit, sorry, I'll have to try later x.x minor problem, thank you everyone
#1379 [15:16] <lutzee> eltorian, okay i should be arround for a fair while
#1380 [15:16] <alx2222> ok lol don't wanna argue about it all night
#1381 [15:17] <alx2222> ok ,actually im going to bed (its 22:16, or 10:16 PM for me) so see you all
#1382 [15:17] <alx2222> ok ,actually im going to bed (its 22:16, or 10:16 PM for me) so see you all
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#1384 [15:17] * lutzee was up till 5am fixing a server, then was force up at 9am...
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#1385 [15:18] <ollieread> Hai hai
#1386 [15:18] <ollieread> Anyone ran into an issue with a new container, where it forgets the content upon restart?
#1387 [15:19] <ollieread> This particular example being a new furnace
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#1389 [15:19] <ollieread> Thought it may be NBT, but that all seems to be correct :/
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#1397 [15:49] <ashkan> Why is my minecraft memory full when i just got the game?
#1398 [15:50] <ashkan> Hello
#1399 [15:50] <Eddie> Glad we could help!
#1400 [15:52] <Nathan2055> ashkan: What are your system specs?
#1401 [15:52] <Nathan2055> He's gone...
#1402 [15:54] <papaganoush> this fish thing is going to drive me to drink
#1403 [15:54] <Fishfish0001> wut?
#1404 [15:54] <Fishfish0001> ph
#1405 [15:54] <Fishfish0001> nvm
#1406 [15:55] <papaganoush> sorry Fishfish0001 not you... well maybe you - are you the fish swimming in my log file?
#1407 [16:00] <Dan> !login
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#1410 [16:03] <DozerDog4> Hello im having trouble lauching the .exe file
#1411 [16:04] <DozerDog4> it loads then goes to a blank screen and i get error meassge extracting:jinput-dx8.dll
#1412 [16:04] <DarkAceZ> .exe
#1413 [16:04] <DarkAceZ> I was told MC was Java
#1414 [16:04] <Smanly> It is...
#1415 [16:04] <DozerDog4> im on windows xp
#1416 [16:04] <Smanly> Its a cloaked .jar basicly
#1417 [16:05] <DarkAceZ> ahh..
#1418 [16:05] <DozerDog4> downloaded the version for windows
#1419 [16:05] <DozerDog4> whats that mean smanly
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#1421 [16:05] <Smanly> What version of jave, DozerDog4.
#1422 [16:05] <DozerDog4> 7 update 5
#1423 [16:05] <Smanly> Any other versions?
#1424 [16:06] <DozerDog4> not that im aware of
#1425 [16:06] <mase> hello i cant dig
#1426 [16:06] <Smanly> Was MC working before?
#1427 [16:06] <Smanly> Check, DozerDog4.
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#1429 [16:06] <DozerDog4> first install
#1430 [16:06] <mase> 13.1
#1431 [16:06] <mase> it wont let me dig
#1432 [16:06] <SkyBot99> i need help
#1433 [16:06] <SkyBot99> whenever i play my singleplayer world
#1434 [16:06] <SkyBot99> it will say internal server error
#1435 [16:06] <SkyBot99> mase
#1436 [16:06] <mase> yes
#1437 [16:07] <SkyBot99> are you in adventure mode?
#1438 [16:07] <mase> no survival
#1439 [16:07] <SkyBot99> hm
#1440 [16:07] <SkyBot99> will the block dissapear and then come back?
#1441 [16:07] <mase> hand wont move
#1442 [16:07] <DozerDog4> smanly i uninstalled and then reinstalled java
#1443 [16:07] <SkyBot99> hm
#1444 [16:07] <DozerDog4> to 7 update 5
#1445 [16:07] <SkyBot99> have u tried closing the minecraft window and reopening
#1446 [16:07] <Smanly> DozerDog4: Are your videos drivers up to date?
#1447 [16:07] <mase> yes
#1448 [16:08] <SkyBot99> are u in multiplayer?
#1449 [16:08] <DozerDog4> how do i check
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#1451 [16:08] <Balee> Heya.
#1452 [16:08] <SkyBot99> i need help. my singleplayer world keeps having "internal server errors" while i try to make my custom map
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#1454 [16:09] <xales> SkyBot99: "custom map"?
#1455 [16:09] <SkyBot99> does any1 know how to help me with that?
#1456 [16:09] <SkyBot99> xales the custom map part has nothing to do with it
#1457 [16:09] <Smanly> ??>> DozerDog4 win/dxdiag
#1458 [16:09] <SkyBot99> but my singleplayer world keeps having internal server errors
#1459 [16:10] <xales> SkyBot99: Are you, or were you ever, using mods?
#1460 [16:10] <SkyBot99> im using optifine
#1461 [16:10] <xales> Try running without it.
#1462 [16:10] <SkyBot99> ok lemme try tht
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#1464 [16:10] <Balee> I have a question, basically about "thinning down" a world.
#1465 [16:10] <Smanly> wat
#1466 [16:11] <Smanly> Cropping/triming it?
#1467 [16:11] <Balee> That is, we (a friend and I who play on a server) plan to delete unused regions.
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#1469 [16:11] <Smanly> Use WorldBorder.
#1470 [16:11] <SkyBot99> ok its force updating
#1471 [16:11] <JohnEBH> ??> Balee mcedit
#1472 [16:11] <VoxelHead> Balee: (mcedit) https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#1473 [16:11] <SkyBot99> hopefully it will work
#1474 [16:11] <JohnEBH> Balee, With that you can delete chunks you don't want =P
#1475 [16:11] <Balee> Since the world is almost a gigabyte now, and most of the stuff was generated with 1.8.1 oslt.
#1476 [16:12] <SkyBot99> if mods are the problem i can't wait for the mod API in 1.4
#1477 [16:12] <JohnEBH> Balee, It's a standalone map editor and should be pretty easy to use
#1478 [16:12] <Balee> JohnEBH: Thanks, but slimming it down isn't the "problem".
#1479 [16:12] <Smanly> Wat
#1480 [16:12] <xales> SkyBot99: Unfortunately, things like OptiFine won't be able to work using the API anyway, most likely.
#1481 [16:12] <Balee> There's no actual problem here, I'm just wondering about what function certain folders in our world serve.
#1482 [16:12] <JohnEBH> Balee, Then what is?
#1483 [16:12] <Balee> Basically...
#1484 [16:12] <SkyBot99> crap
#1485 [16:12] <xales> Balee: You'd have to use a map editor or something.
#1486 [16:13] <xales> Just deleting region files is a *terrible* idea
#1487 [16:13] <SkyBot99> it wont update
#1488 [16:13] <xales> (Also, make sure to back it up before doing either)
#1489 [16:13] <Smanly> It would fine, xales lol.
#1490 [16:13] <Balee> There are three folders.
#1491 [16:13] <SkyBot99> ok brb
#1492 [16:13] <DozerDog4> http://pastebin.com/GKkRu3qy
#1493 [16:13] <Balee> Adventure2, Adventure2_nether, Adventure2_the_end.
#1494 [16:13] <Balee> Adventure2 is the world's name.
#1495 [16:13] <Balee> This is in the world's folder.
#1496 [16:13] <Balee> They contain...
#1497 [16:14] <JohnEBH> Balee, Using Bukkit?
#1498 [16:14] <xales> DozerDog4: One second
#1499 [16:14] <lutzee> That is the bukkit config yes
#1500 [16:14] <SkyBot99> oh god *facepalm*
#1501 [16:14] <Balee> Used, yes. Not anymore.
#1502 [16:14] <DozerDog4> ok
#1503 [16:14] <Balee> It has copies of region files and such.
#1504 [16:14] <JohnEBH> Balee, Then you can safely delete nether and the end
#1505 [16:14] <JohnEBH> Balee, They've been regenerated into Adventure2 when you started using the normal MC server
#1506 [16:14] <xales> DozerDog4: Download and install this driver: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/radeonaiw_xp.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.13&lang=English
#1507 [16:15] <xales> DozerDog4: However, this is a "legacy driver" and may not support the technologies Minecraft requires; if that's the case, you will not be able to play Minecraft on your computer, as it is too old.
#1508 [16:15] <JohnEBH> Balee, Althought the proper way of putting them back together from Bukkit is to move the contents inside Nether and The end into Adventure2
#1509 [16:15] <lutzee> just move the DIM folders
#1510 [16:15] <Balee> There are also folders called DIM and DIM-1, I presume those are the other dimensions.
#1511 [16:16] <lutzee> Otherwise you might break something else
#1512 [16:16] <lutzee> Balee, yes
#1513 [16:16] <DozerDog4> the full suite or just the driver?
#1514 [16:16] <lutzee> DIM-1 is the nether, and DIM1 is the end
#1515 [16:16] <Balee> So I was wondering if anyone knew if those Adventure2 folders could be just backups, or something like that, created by Bukkit.
#1516 [16:16] <xales> DozerDog4: Probably the full suite is best
#1517 [16:16] <Balee> And if they should be safe to delete.
#1518 [16:17] <xales> Balee: I wouldn't delete anything, unless you are really that low on space.
#1519 [16:17] <xales> Even so, space costs nothing, you could store them on the free-tier of S3 or something at no charge
#1520 [16:17] <DozerDog4> ok xales im also having trouble on my laptop which is vista getting MineCraft to work as well any suggestions?
#1521 [16:17] <JohnEBH> How much do they give you for free? o.o
#1522 [16:17] <xales> DozerDog4: Well, you haven't actually told me what the problem with your laptop is, so how could I give you suggestions for it?
#1523 [16:18] <xales> JohnEBH: 5GB or something like that.
#1524 [16:18] <xales> JohnEBH: http://aws.amazon.com/free
#1525 [16:18] <DozerDog4> ok thanks one prob at a time
#1526 [16:18] <xales> JohnEBH: "5 GB of Amazon S3 standard storage, 20,000 Get Requests, and 2,000 Put Requests*"
#1527 [16:18] <JohnEBH> Awesome :D
#1528 [16:18] <Balee> But deleting those folders, if they are Bukkit's... something, shouldn't have an effect on the world, should it?
#1529 [16:18] <Balee> Since we don't use Bukkit anymore.
#1530 [16:19] <xales> Balee: Well, look in the folders and see what's in them
#1531 [16:19] <Balee> My friend's PC is now the server. Before this, we used to rent a server.
#1532 [16:19] <Balee> Coz we had more people.
#1533 [16:19] <xales> The world is stored in files with the extension "mcr" (I think)
#1534 [16:19] <Balee> There's mca too.
#1535 [16:20] <xales> Oh, yeah, the new one is mca or something like that
#1536 [16:20] <Balee> Yes.
#1537 [16:21] <Balee> There are region files.
#1538 [16:21] <Balee> Dating back to May.
#1539 [16:21] <DozerDog4> xales i got a prompt that it has not past windows logo testing do i continue anyway
#1540 [16:21] <Balee> When we took down the server and moved it, I think.
#1541 [16:21] <xales> DozerDog4: Yes.
#1542 [16:21] <Balee> And since there are no changes, now that you told me those are Bukkit's folders, I guess it's safe to delete those.
#1543 [16:22] <Balee> Also.
#1544 [16:22] <Balee> [22:13:20] <xales> Just deleting region files is a *terrible* idea
#1545 [16:22] <Balee> How so?
#1546 [16:22] <Balee> I mean, I know it'll result in an... "edgy"... world.
#1547 [16:22] <xales> It's reasonably easy to delete the wrong ones, as well as that.
#1548 [16:22] <Balee> But I'd assume those regions will just regenerate.
#1549 [16:23] <xales> That's correct, but if they had something in them you wanted to keep, then you're SOL.
#1550 [16:23] <Balee> Ah, I don't worry about that. I already have the regions mapped.
#1551 [16:23] <Balee> 'twas easy. And of course, I back things up.
#1552 [16:24] <DozerDog4> xales i have to rebot i will be back
#1553 [16:24] <Balee> I just thought you knew of other troubles that can arise. :)
#1554 [16:24] <JohnEBH> Balee, nothing really besides entities anything on those regions disappearing
#1555 [16:24] <Balee> Yes.
#1556 [16:25] <Balee> That's the point.
#1557 [16:25] <Balee> :)
#1558 [16:25] <JohnEBH> So why don't you just start a new map? o.o"
#1559 [16:25] <Balee> We don't have anything worth keeping in those regions. Save for a bridge that I'll of course screenshot first. :)
#1560 [16:25] <Balee> Because of reasons.
#1561 [16:25] <JohnEBH> With the same seed?
#1562 [16:25] <Balee> Mainly that we've been playing on the same world since 1.8.1
#1563 [16:26] <JohnEBH> But if you delete the region files, they'll be generated in 1.3.1 or w.e version you're using right?
#1564 [16:27] <Balee> Yup.
#1565 [16:27] <Balee> Some places look silly, but all-in-all, not bad. I did some preliminary testing. :)
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#1567 [16:27] <Balee> We have a half jungle temple on one of the borders. :D
#1568 [16:28] <JohnEBH> Whatever floats your boat =P
#1569 [16:28] <Balee> :)
#1570 [16:28] <Balee> A related question is...
#1571 [16:28] <Balee> Do you think it's safe to delete the .mcr files from the region folder?
#1572 [16:28] <Balee> You know, the old file format's regions.
#1573 [16:29] <Balee> I imagine they don't have any use anymore.
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#1575 [16:29] <JohnEBH> Hmmm... Test it ;D
#1576 [16:29] <JohnEBH> And send us your results
#1577 [16:29] <JohnEBH> Of course take a backup before you do
#1578 [16:29] <Balee> Will do!
#1579 [16:29] <Balee> Indeed.
#1580 [16:30] <Balee> I assume it should be okay since the mcr files don't get updated anymore.
#1581 [16:30] <Balee> And world generated after Anvil was introduced don't have mcr files at all.
#1582 [16:30] <Balee> *worlds
#1583 [16:31] <JohnEBH> That sounds right to me.
#1584 [16:32] <Balee> Uuuuuuh, did I want to ask something else, I wonder. :D
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#1586 [16:34] <DozerDog4> xales got it to load! that seemed to do the trick
#1587 [16:34] <Balee> Also, fixing biomes will be fun. D:
#1588 [16:34] <Balee> BiomePainter should do the trick. :3
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#1590 [16:36] <Muffins> helppppp
#1591 [16:36] <Muffins> cannont create java virtual machie any help??
#1592 [16:36] <Boreeas> Muffins: What version of Java do you have?
#1593 [16:36] <JohnEBH> Muffins, You need to either update Java or install it.
#1594 [16:37] <xales> JohnEBH: Could also be one of those 256MB-y-it-no-werk things
#1595 [16:37] <Muffins> i have sun java
#1596 [16:37] <JohnEBH> It's hard to believe they still exist T-T
#1597 [16:37] <Boreeas> xales: Reinstall first, ask questions later :P
#1598 [16:37] <Boreeas> Muffins: Yeah, but version
#1599 [16:37] <Muffins> hold on,
#1600 [16:37] <JohnEBH> Java 4, 5, 6, 7?
#1601 [16:37] <Muffins> java runtime 1.5.0
#1602 [16:37] <JohnEBH> Update.
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#1604 [16:37] <Muffins> howww???
#1605 [16:38] <JohnEBH> ??> Muffins getjava
#1606 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Muffins: (getjava) Deprecated. See ?? java/1.6
#1607 [16:38] <BraveKiller14> Any minecraft staff on?
#1608 [16:38] <lutzee> Muffins, mac?
#1609 [16:38] <xales> BraveKiller14: What do you need help with?
#1610 [16:38] <Muffins> i have windows
#1611 [16:38] <JohnEBH> ??> Muffins java/1.6
#1612 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Muffins: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1613 [16:38] <Boreeas> ??> Muffins win/javara
#1614 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Muffins: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1615 [16:38] <VoxelHead> Muffins: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#1616 [16:38] <Boreeas> Muffins: Download javara, remove all installations of java it can find, then redownload java 1.6 from http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1617 [16:39] <Muffins> ok
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#1619 [16:39] <BraveKiller14> i need to change my password but i migration my acc and i dont know the questions
#1620 [16:40] <xales> BraveKiller14: https://account.mojang.com/resetpassword/request
#1621 [16:40] <BraveKiller14> What is your favorite pet's name? i never say one
#1622 [16:42] <xales> Well, you must have, or it wouldn't have asked you the question.
#1623 [16:43] <BraveKiller14> i don't i nenver set one i swear
#1624 [16:43] <gv> As we're not Mojang proper, we cannot directly assist with account issues. Please file a support ticket at:
#1625 [16:43] <gv> http://help.mojang.com/customer/widget/emails/new
#1626 [16:44] <xales> Additionally, once you have done that, please see: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359446-when-will-i-hear-back-
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#1628 [16:45] <Muffins> ok ok, i used javaRa and it got rid of java, i did everything and when installing java it said cannont install version is currently installed, or something like that, then i clicked minecraft and it said The application requiers java runtime 1.5.0
#1629 [16:45] <BraveKiller14> i need to change it now i think someone hack my acc
#1630 [16:46] <Muffins> any help anyone?
#1631 [16:46] <gv> There's nothing we can do about it here BraveKiller14. Only Mojang can straighten it out for you
#1632 [16:46] <BraveKiller14> Ok
#1633 [16:46] <gv> Muffins - what is the exact error?
#1634 [16:47] <Muffins> Hold on
#1635 [16:47] <BraveKiller14> I hope i dont lost the acc about im not buying new one
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#1637 [16:48] <Muffins> Another version of this product is already installed installation cannot continue to configure or remove the version of this prodcut use /add/remove programs in contral panel
#1638 [16:49] <xales> Muffins: Do as it says.
#1639 [16:49] <Muffins> ok,
#1640 [16:49] <xales> Go to Add and Remove Programs in the Control Panel
#1641 [16:49] <Muffins> ok i am
#1642 [16:49] <xales> uninstall anything you see that says "Java"
#1643 [16:49] <Muffins> ok
#1644 [16:50] <Muffins> including java auto installer?
#1645 [16:50] <xales> Yes.
#1646 [16:51] <Muffins> is j2se part of java?
#1647 [16:51] <xales> Yes, uninstall that too.
#1648 [16:51] <Muffins> ok
#1649 [16:53] <Muffins> When uninstalling one last one it says Fatal error
#1650 [16:53] <gv> If that work, try: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall/
#1651 [16:53] <gv> That utility has been seen to clear up uninstall issues with java
#1652 [16:54] <Muffins> ok im installing java back again
#1653 [16:55] <Muffins> ttheres one bar left and its frozen i think
#1654 [16:55] <Muffins> do i restart my computer?
#1655 [16:55] <xales> No.
#1656 [16:55] <Muffins> ok
#1657 [16:55] <xales> If it's in the middle of installing, wait.
#1658 [16:58] <Muffins> it still has one more bar to go...
#1659 [16:58] <xales> Then just be patient.
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#1661 [17:03] <Muffins> are you sure i have to not restart my Computer? it seems to be stuck
#1662 [17:04] <Muffins> hello?
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#1664 [17:05] <xales> Muffins: It's highly unlikely that it's stuck. Just be patient.
#1665 [17:05] <xales> Do not turn your computer off in the middle of installing something; that's how problems like this start in the first place.
#1666 [17:06] <Muffins> ok, Would you like to know how this problem started>
#1667 [17:06] <xales> That would be helpful, yes.
#1668 [17:06] <ImASpork> If its oaky to ask, why did you shut off your computer? Sorry for butting in
#1669 [17:06] <ImASpork> okay*
#1670 [17:07] <lutzee> That did not occur
#1671 [17:07] <Muffins> well when i was trying to make mods for minecraft, i had to install JDK so i did and i clicked the buttons and then minecraft would say java runtime 1.5.0 needed to run app, so i got it and i found this error which i currently was having but i fixed it with a Bat file now, th bat file doesnt work at all
#1672 [17:09] <xales> ._.
#1673 [17:09] <Muffins> ???
#1674 [17:09] <xales> You probably have a completely broken Java installation(s) now, which may not even be easily fixable without reformatting
#1675 [17:10] <Muffins> uh huh whats Reformatting
#1676 [17:10] <xales> In general, if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it. Also, unless there's a specific reason to, always get the *latest* version of something.
#1677 [17:10] <xales> So, if something tells you it needs Java, you just download the latest version of Java.
#1678 [17:10] <xales> Not the one that's ten years old.
#1679 [17:10] <Muffins> ok.
#1680 [17:10] <Muffins> t._.
#1681 [17:11] <Muffins> well, the java setup is still taking for ever to load
#1682 [17:11] <xales> Close every other program on your computer, and leave it alone for an hour.
#1683 [17:11] <xales> If it's still installing, hit the cancel button on the install and wait for it to cancel.
#1684 [17:11] <xales> Then, come back.
#1685 [17:12] <Muffins> there is no cancel!
#1686 [17:12] <Muffins> The window is called Java setup- Progress
#1687 [17:12] <Muffins> it shows a green bar
#1688 [17:12] <Muffins> with one slot missing
#1689 [17:12] <xales> Wait, you mean it's stuck on the *download*? ._.
#1690 [17:12] <xales> Okay, close it.
#1691 [17:12] <Muffins> How?
#1692 [17:13] <xales> With the, uh, close button.
#1693 [17:13] <Muffins> its not accsessiple...
#1694 [17:13] <xales> Do you know how to use the Task Manager?
#1695 [17:13] <Muffins> ummm no not really sorry
#1696 [17:13] <xales> Press Control-Alt-Delete
#1697 [17:13] <ollieread> Anyone in here ever added a new liquid in their mod?
#1698 [17:13] <xales> ollieread: #risucraft for help with modding
#1699 [17:13] <Muffins> ok now what?
#1700 [17:14] <ollieread> So many channels lol
#1701 [17:14] <ollieread> Cheers xales
#1702 [17:14] <xales> Muffins: There should be a list of the programs you have open.
#1703 [17:14] <xales> Muffins: One of them is the Java install.
#1704 [17:14] <xales> Select it, and hit "End task"
#1705 [17:15] <Muffins> ok i did
#1706 [17:15] <Muffins> now what?
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#1708 [17:16] <Muffins> now what to do??
#1709 [17:16] <gregoryorr30> Hey can any1 help me with minecraft connecting to game it says "Updating minecraft and done loading"
#1710 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Did the installer close?
#1711 [17:16] <Muffins> yup
#1712 [17:16] <xales> gregoryorr30: Are you trying to play the demo?
#1713 [17:16] <gregoryorr30> Yes
#1714 [17:16] <GreyVulpine> Muffins - Then try the installer again
#1715 [17:16] <Muffins> ok
#1716 [17:17] <xales> That's the problem. The demo doesn't work.
#1717 [17:17] <xales> GreyVulpine: Offline installer :p
#1718 [17:17] * GreyVulpine nods
#1718 [17:17] <gregoryorr30> How come? and will it ever be fixed?
#1719 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Because of a bug, and we assume so.
#1720 [17:17] <Muffins> The application requires Java runtime 1.5.0
#1721 [17:17] <Muffins> ii keep getting this!!
#1722 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Muffins - Use: http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall/
#1723 [17:17] <gregoryorr30> Okay well can I take a bit of advice? Is it worth getting the proper game?
#1724 [17:17] <GreyVulpine> Then install java again
#1725 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> gregoryorr30 - It most definitely is
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#1727 [17:18] <gregoryorr30> Okay thanks for the help :)
#1728 [17:18] <alexnabby> keep getting this error
#1729 [17:18] <alexnabby> : Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1730 [17:18] <alexnabby> nothing I do fixes it
#1731 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> alexnabby - Then update your video drivers
#1732 [17:18] <alexnabby> It is up to date
#1733 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> alexnabby - What video card do you have?
#1734 [17:18] <GreyVulpine> alexnabby - How did you attempt to update it?
#1735 [17:18] <alexnabby> ATI Radeon HD 4670
#1736 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> alexnabby - How did you attempt to update it?
#1737 [17:19] <alexnabby> through device manager, search for updates
#1738 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> That would be why. Device manager will never give you the latest video drivers
#1739 [17:19] <alexnabby> ok i will try through website thanks
#1740 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> Please search for the latest ATI drivers from AMD/ATI's website
#1741 [17:19] <GreyVulpine> ?? gpu/amd
#1742 [17:19] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1743 [17:19] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
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#1746 [17:33] <Potatoes> umm hello, Any Time i start my minecraft, it says: Application needs runtime 1.5.0 then it closes and brings up the java website in my internet
#1747 [17:34] <Potatoes> Any Fixes for this??
#1748 [17:34] <Potatoes> anyone?????????
#1749 [17:34] <xales> Potatoes: Install Java 6, from here:
#1750 [17:34] <xales> ??> Potatoes java/1.6
#1751 [17:34] <VoxelHead> Potatoes: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1752 [17:35] <Potatoes> When i install java 6 it says another installtion is in process but there isnt
#1753 [17:35] <xales> Restart your computer, then go to that website and use the "Offline Installer"
#1754 [17:35] <Potatoes> ok
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#1760 [17:50] <ZugZug> Is there a way to enter creative mode once you've been playing for a week in a sinle player game?
#1761 [17:51] <ZugZug> single player game that is
#1762 [17:51] <xales> If you have "cheats" on, yes
#1763 [17:51] <xales> You could also modify the level.dat file I think
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#1765 [17:52] <ZugZug> So, I have the game up right now and am in my single player game. I just go to options and turn on cheats? Because I don't see it from within the game?
#1766 [17:52] <blackchaosx> my minecraft account has been hacked
#1767 [17:52] <lutzee> blackchaosx, what makes you say that?
#1768 [17:53] <blackchaosx> well my password doesnt work
#1769 [17:53] <lutzee> have you tried to reset it?
#1770 [17:54] <xales> ZugZug: Cheats are enabled/disabled when you create the world, I believe
#1771 [17:54] <blackchaosx> well i cant log in to minecraft.net so i cant reset it
#1772 [17:54] <blackchaosx> nor redownload it
#1773 [17:54] <ZugZug> Yes, that is my point. Thus, if I didn't originally create the world, but am playing in a singleplayer mode, then I can't get into Creative Mode?
#1774 [17:55] <lutzee> blackchaosx, http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#1775 [17:55] <ZugZug> I have done so much work in this world, and wanted to use creative mode to expedite some of the structures and teraforming. So, is that not an option for me?
#1776 [17:56] <lutzee> There are ways without editing files, but i'd advise you back the whole world up
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#1778 [17:56] <ZugZug> I am all ears
#1779 [17:57] <lutzee> You know where the .minecraft folder is?
#1780 [17:57] <ZugZug> yes
#1781 [17:57] <gv> Could try moving it to an mp server so you can switch yourself to creative mode and back again freely..
#1782 [17:57] <xales> ZugZug: You could with a mod, or by enabling cheats with a utility or something
#1783 [17:58] <lutzee> I was going to just suggest making a new world that have cheats enabled then moving the level.dat from that to the old world...
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#1785 [17:58] <ZugZug> understoof. I will give it a try. thanks again.
#1786 [17:59] <gv> Would screw up the level generation due to a different seed, would it not?
#1787 [17:59] <xales> it would
#1788 [17:59] <lutzee> true,
#1789 [17:59] <xales> you could just edit level.dat with an NBT editor
#1790 [17:59] <Tristin> Looking for someone who is a plugin maker.
#1791 [18:00] <lutzee> NBTedit would be able to edit the file fine
#1792 [18:00] <lutzee> Tristin, #bukkitdev or #bukkit
#1793 [18:00] <blackchaosx> i think they changed my email because its not in there
#1794 [18:00] <Tristin> Banned from there o.o
#1795 [18:00] <Tristin> I already tried...
#1796 [18:01] <xales> Tristin: Probably because you are using Mibbit
#1797 [18:01] <Tristin> :/
#1798 [18:01] <lutzee> Get a proper client :)
#1799 [18:01] <xales> Tristin: So, use something other than Mibbit, such as the proper webchat, or Hexchat
#1800 [18:01] <Tristin> :c
#1801 [18:02] <xales> ...?
#1802 [18:03] <lutzee> I think he likes mibbit
#1803 [18:03] <xales> don't be silly
#1804 [18:03] <xales> nobody likes Mibbit
#1805 [18:03] <Tristin> i do:c
#1806 [18:04] <lutzee> It's like ew.
#1807 [18:04] <xales> Tristin: Have you actually used any other client? ._.
#1808 [18:04] <Tristin> no
#1809 [18:05] <lutzee> Thought so... look at hexchat, it's free, looks better, works better
#1810 [18:05] <blackchaosx> so what do i do
#1811 [18:05] <lutzee> blackchaosx, can you log into your email account?
#1812 [18:05] <xales> blackchaosx: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#1813 [18:06] <blackchaosx> yes but its not in my email
#1814 [18:06] <xales> In the future, don't use crappy passwords, or give them out, or run weird software on your computer, as doing one of those is the only way your account could have been stolen.
#1815 [18:06] <blackchaosx> thanks
#1816 [18:06] <lutzee> And also use an email that is yours
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#1818 [18:07] <Carlos> Hey
#1819 [18:07] <xales> Hi,
#1820 [18:07] <Carlos> can someone here help me
#1821 [18:07] <Carlos> ?
#1822 [18:07] <xales> That's why we are here.
#1823 [18:07] <xales> However, you have to actually tell us what the problem is.
#1824 [18:07] <Carlos> Can someone here help me to setup a hamachi server because it isnt working for my friends.
#1825 [18:07] <xales> ._.
#1826 [18:07] <xales> ??> Carlos hamachi
#1827 [18:07] <xales> ??> Carlos fubar/hamachi
#1828 [18:08] <VoxelHead> Carlos: (fubar/hamachi) Hamachi has been squatting on a previously unallocated IP address space. This block of addresses, 5.0.0.0/8, has been allocated by IANA. As such, Hamachi conflicts with the internet. As such, #MineCraftHelp will neither support nor assist with server network issues for hosts using Hamachi for connectivity.
#1829 [18:08] <VoxelHead> Carlos: (fubar/hamachi) If you are using Hamachi, use a different solution such as proper port forwarding, or a VPN.
#1830 [18:08] <Carlos> I need help portfowarding
#1831 [18:08] <Carlos> i foward it perfect and its still closed
#1832 [18:08] <Carlos> :/
#1833 [18:08] <Carlos> Can anyone help over teamviewer?
#1834 [18:08] <xales> Well, then you didn't forward it correctly, or you checked it while the server was not running
#1835 [18:09] <Carlos> its all enabled and perfect
#1836 [18:09] <xales> "Port checkers" only work if the server is *running*, and you forwarded correctly, at the time of the check
#1837 [18:09] <Carlos> Ely from here tried to fix
#1838 [18:09] <Carlos> but he couldnt
#1839 [18:09] <Carlos> can anyone else take a try at fixing
#1840 [18:09] <xales> Someone else may be able to, I cannot at the moment
#1841 [18:10] <Carlos> can anyone?
#1842 [18:10] <xales> I'm sure someone could, perhaps if you wait around for a bit
#1843 [18:10] <Carlos> k
#1844 [18:11] <lutzee> I guess i'll install teamviewer
#1845 [18:11] <Carlos> okay
#1846 [18:14] <Carlos> tell me when u have it
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#1848 [18:16] <LoR> So, is anyone on this place? Need some graphics-card related help, if anyone knows about that stuff
#1849 [18:16] <Carlos> yea they are on
#1850 [18:16] <lutzee> mkay Carlos
#1851 [18:16] <Carlos> jk
#1852 [18:16] <Carlos> u got it lut?
#1853 [18:16] <lutzee> LoR, you will have to elaborate
#1854 [18:16] <LoR> Ah, okay...
#1855 [18:16] <LoR> Alright, mate.
#1856 [18:16] <lutzee> Carlos, yes
#1857 [18:16] <Carlos> Okay
#1858 [18:17] <Carlos> Ill pm u
#1859 [18:17] <Carlos> Can u pm me cant find u on the botx
#1860 [18:17] <Carlos> lol
#1861 [18:17] <LoR> So, this isn't directly related, but my graphics card is required to run this anyway. Every time I download the driver or re-enable it, my PC bluescreens. I have the world's worst video card, by the way...ATI FireGl 3100, and whoever programmed the driver must have been incredibly incompetent.
#1862 [18:18] <xales> LoR: Uhh, that's....really, really old.
#1863 [18:18] <LoR> The card?
#1864 [18:18] <LoR> Haha
#1865 [18:18] <LoR> I bought a new PC in March
#1866 [18:18] <xales> or
#1867 [18:18] <xales> well, really, really crappy, or something, I dunno
#1868 [18:18] <Morrolan> And you ran out of money half way through the payment? ;)
#1869 [18:18] <LoR> It's probably both.
#1870 [18:18] <LoR> <_< Morrolan
#1871 [18:18] <LoR> Anyway
#1872 [18:19] <LoR> the ass who sold me it put the wrong video card in the PC, they were supposed to send me one with a nice Nvidia card
#1873 [18:19] <xales> anyway, if you can't get the driver from AMD/ATI to work, you're probably SOL
#1874 [18:19] <LoR> Eh...
#1875 [18:19] <LoR> I have an old crummy Nvidia from my old PC.
#1876 [18:19] <LoR> It ran perfectly
#1877 [18:19] <LoR> should I use that instead, or...
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#1879 [18:20] <xales> You could probably swap them out, yeah
#1880 [18:20] <LoR> Hm, good idea.
#1881 [18:20] <LoR> My old PC must've had too much data or a virus, though, it would randomly freeze every few minutes for about 10 seconds
#1882 [18:20] <LoR> Well, it's worth the risk, I guess...
#1883 [18:20] <LoR> thanks anyway xD
#1884 [18:33] <zkxs> Wait, he thinks the virus is on his video card?
#1885 [18:33] <xales> i dunno
#1886 [18:34] <xales> could have fucked up the microcode or something
#1887 [18:34] <xales> lol
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#1891 [18:41] <ujimar> is it possible to pull stuff out the mass fab automatically and place it into a chest?
#1892 [18:42] <lutzee> ujimar, we don't support mods but yes
#1893 [18:42] <xales> We can't provide support for mods. There's probably an IC² channel, but #direwolf20 is probably the best place to ask.
#1894 [18:42] <lutzee> if you have redpower installed
#1895 [18:42] <lutzee> i'll talk to you in #direwolf20
#1896 [18:42] <ujimar> i have the DNS techpack
#1897 [18:43] <lutzee> That sounds like it does not have any permissions to distribute..
#1898 [18:43] <ujimar> ?
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#1900 [18:44] <lutzee> before you can redistribute a mod you need permission from the authors
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#1902 [18:44] <IOTAdelegate> how do i get the email verrification to resend, if i just had it sent?
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#1904 [18:44] <seth> hello
#1905 [18:44] <ujimar> i wasn't redistributing i'm just using the pack i download on my minecraft
#1906 [18:45] <xales> IOTAdelegate: You'll have to wait, it won't let you resend it for a short while after it was just sent.
#1907 [18:45] <xales> IOTAdelegate: http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
#1908 [18:45] <xales> IOTAdelegate: http://www.minecraft.net/sendemailverification
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#1910 [18:45] <lutzee> ujimar, i men the pack maker
#1911 [18:46] <theFriedZombie> Can I also ask for ideas for a video tutorial I like to make (not to get the whole thing handedn on a platter) on computercraft?
#1912 [18:46] <xales> theFriedZombie: Try asking in #computercraft perhaps?
#1913 [18:46] <IOTAdelegate> doesnt work
#1914 [18:46] <IOTAdelegate> keeps saying it recently sent it
#1915 [18:46] <theFriedZombie> That's a wonderfull suggestion :)
#1916 [18:46] <xales> IOTAdelegate: Yes, I just told you that.
#1917 [18:46] <IOTAdelegate> is there a way to bypass this. we just want ot pay for the game
#1918 [18:46] <xales> if it was just sent, you'll have to wait.
#1919 [18:47] <xales> IOTAdelegate: If it was already sent, then you should have the email.
#1920 [18:47] <IOTAdelegate> ahh my mistake
#1921 [18:47] <IOTAdelegate> negative, the email was dead at the moment, we had no idea of this until we tried to log into it
#1922 [18:47] <xales> ah.
#1923 [18:47] <xales> you'll just have to be patient then
#1924 [18:47] <xales> I think the timeout is 15 minutes, but I'm not sure.
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#1926 [18:48] <IOTAdelegate> er... that is a tad much... he just made another account it seems... soooo uhh.. we'll just rock with the one he set up
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#1928 [18:49] <xales> IOTAdelegate: that works too
#1929 [18:49] <IOTAdelegate> yesah
#1930 [18:49] <Ralip332> I downloaded the client and set up and account. When I open the client, put in my ID and PW and then click Play Demo it brings up a scree saying updting Minecraft but it just sits there. What is the problem
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#1932 [18:49] <xales> Ralip332: The demo does not work at the moment.
#1933 [18:49] <GreyVulpine> Demo doesn't work.
#1934 [18:49] <IOTAdelegate> retiate the help
#1935 [18:49] <IOTAdelegate> later days
#1936 [18:49] <seth> hello
#1937 [18:49] <seth> hello
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#1939 [18:49] <Ralip332> So I would have to purchase the full version to try it out?
#1940 [18:49] <xales> seth: Hi.
#1941 [18:50] <xales> Ralip332: That's correct. There are an enormous number of people playing it and posting videos on YouTube, you could check there too.
#1942 [18:50] <seth> um im crashimng for no reason
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#1944 [18:50] <xales> Ralip332: Search for "Minecraft let's play" or something
#1945 [18:50] <xales> seth: Care to explain the crashes? Is there an error message? When do the crashes happen? How frequently?
#1946 [18:50] <Ralip332> Is this game appropriate for a 9 year old boy?
#1947 [18:50] <seth> it say ran out of memory
#1948 [18:50] <xales> Ralip332: Absolutely
#1949 [18:51] <xales> seth: Do you know how much RAM your computer has?
#1950 [18:51] <seth> alot
#1951 [18:51] <xales> seth: Be specific.
#1952 [18:51] <seth> about 250
#1953 [18:51] <seth> gb
#1954 [18:52] <xales> Uh, that doesn't make any sense.
#1955 [18:52] <m0nk> lol
#1956 [18:52] <xales> seth: Right click on Computer, and find out how much "RAM" or "Memory" it says.
#1957 [18:52] <xales> seth: err, right click on Computer and go to Properties, that is
#1958 [18:52] <seth> brb
#1959 [18:54] <seth> derp 4 gb of ram
#1960 [18:55] <xales> seth: Are you running Windows Vista/7 or XP?
#1961 [18:55] <seth> 7
#1962 [18:55] <m0nk> 32 bit?
#1963 [18:55] <xales> Where it says "System type" does it say 32-bit or 64-bit?
#1964 [18:55] <xales> (In the Computer -> Properties window)
#1965 [18:56] <seth> 64 bit
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#1967 [18:57] <xales> Okay. If you install the 64-bit version of Java, it should work better. One moment.
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#1969 [18:58] <xales> seth: Download Java from here, and install it. Use the "Windows Offline" installer. http://www.java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1970 [18:58] <seth> i have a 64 bit
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#1972 [18:58] <holeshleffer> I need help desperatley
#1973 [18:58] <xales> holeshleffer: If you tell us what you need help with, maybe we can actually help you
#1974 [18:58] <m0nk> !paid holeshleffer
#1975 [18:59] <holeshleffer> touche, I just bought minecraft and I can't download it on my Mac
#1976 [18:59] <holeshleffer> it keeps saying the that the file is damaged
#1977 [18:59] <GreyVulpine> What does it say exactly?
#1978 [18:59] <seth> well im playing in crisandthemikes sub server in one minute it freeze than is says ran out of memory
#1979 [19:00] <xales> seth: I already told you what to do.
#1980 [19:00] <holeshleffer> "File is damaged" move to trash is the only option
#1981 [19:00] <xales> ??> holeshleffer mac/gatekeeper
#1982 [19:00] <VoxelHead> holeshleffer: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
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#1984 [19:01] <NOobKrafTR> im a noob.. need help with stupid download scren stuck at 90%... did everything I seen on forums, Uninstalled JAVA then went into registry -DELETED JAVA- %appsata% deleted .minecraft, redownloaded everything in this order, Java 7 release 5 and then minecraft 1.3.1 nothing works. I also tried older version, I tried downloading it the using a mod, I tried the browser version, NOTHING, I tried the demo version N
#1985 [19:01] <GreyVulpine> The demo does not currently work
#1986 [19:01] * xales bbl, tags GreyVulpine in :p
#1986 [19:01] <NOobKrafTR> well How do I know if I want to buy a game without testing the official demo?
#1987 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Try:
#1988 [19:02] <NOobKrafTR> should I gamefly that?
#1989 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> ?? demo
#1990 [19:02] <VoxelHead> demo: In order to play Minecraft's demo, download the launcher from www.minecraft.net/download and log in with your account, then select "Play Demo".
#1991 [19:02] <NOobKrafTR> haha
#1992 [19:02] <VoxelHead> demo: Note: As of today (05.08.2012) the demo is not working for many different people and OSes.
#1993 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Well, crap
#1994 [19:02] <GreyVulpine> Somebody modified that FAQ entry
#1995 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> Try This: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/19/download-the-minecraft-demo/
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#1997 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> It's older, but should still work
#1998 [19:03] <NOobKrafTR> the software minecraft.exe 257KB is launched.. I log in using my infomration, Click login (says im not a premium member) then I click play demo.. Then I get a lovely screen that says... HI this is the 100th time you loaded me and im still stuck at the splashscreen with 90% DOWNLOAD COMPLETE.. would you like to buy me?
#1999 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> The demo doesn't currently work.
#2000 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> It's bugged.
#2001 [19:03] <GreyVulpine> It's bugged.
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#2004 [19:04] <NOobKrafTR> and I decide to pull out my credit card.. and my gun and shoot myself in the head for buying a game that doesnt even work in demo?
#2005 [19:04] <GreyVulpine> The game works as a premium version
#2006 [19:04] <Badger> Hi. My son is new to minecraft. he build a whole lot of stuff then got himself lost and cant find his buildings again. He's devastated. Is there any way he can work out/navigate back easily?
#2007 [19:04] <NOobKrafTR> lol
#2008 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> Badger - Dig upwards? Otherwise, there's quite a few map editors that can move your son's character out
#2009 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> One is MCedit:
#2010 [19:05] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#2011 [19:05] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#2012 [19:05] <NOobKrafTR> Hey you want to play Diablo 3 with me? the game doesn't work in demo mode and lags a lot. but.. hey I promise if you buy the full version. it WILL WORK... WINK WINK.. I promise.. just give me the money!
#2013 [19:06] <NOobKrafTR> see my problem here?
#2014 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> Nope.
#2015 [19:06] <GreyVulpine> If you don't want to pay for minecraft, that's your perogative. I'm not going to force you to.
#2016 [19:06] <NOobKrafTR> are my analogies too dramatic?
#2017 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> None of us here work for Mojang.
#2018 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> We don't see a cent from Mojang.
#2019 [19:07] <Morrolan> !login
#2020 [19:07] <Badger> Thanks GreyVulpine! I'll get him to try that.
#2021 [19:07] <NOobKrafTR> I never thought you did get paid by anyone. I was making an Analogy
#2022 [19:07] <Morrolan> *sigh*, so it's an issue on my server's side.
#2023 [19:07] <GreyVulpine> NOobKrafTR - The game has nearly 7 million paid accounts.
#2024 [19:08] <NOobKrafTR> I just paid $70 for Diablo 3 in may.. IT NEVER WORKED...
#2025 [19:08] <NOobKrafTR> so i wanted to be sure about this game
#2026 [19:08] <Morrolan> Then wait for MOjang to fix the demo.
#2027 [19:08] <Morrolan> Mojang*
#2028 [19:08] <NOobKrafTR> when will that be?
#2029 [19:08] <GreyVulpine> We do not know.
#2030 [19:08] <Morrolan> Hopefully? Next update.
#2031 [19:08] <Morrolan> Chances are it won't be before winter, though.
#2032 [19:08] <NOobKrafTR> couple of months.. best guess?
#2033 [19:08] <NOobKrafTR> ok
#2034 [19:09] <Morrolan> Frankly, I don't have any clue what's really wrong with the demo.
#2035 [19:09] <Morrolan> If it's only some slight problems, there's no reason that they didn't fix it already, but lazyness.
#2036 [19:09] <Morrolan> If it's completely messed up though, it might take a few months.
#2037 [19:09] <GreyVulpine> Morrolan - Doesn't download the files. If a premium member logs in, the demo will work
#2038 [19:09] <Morrolan> Oh.
#2039 [19:09] <Morrolan> That doesn't sound like much of an issue.
#2040 [19:09] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2040 [19:09] <Morrolan> Aren't those files actually available for public download, though?
#2041 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> Of course not.
#2042 [19:10] <GreyVulpine> (Not legally anyways)
#2043 [19:10] <Morrolan> Could have sworn you could fetch them off the cloud, but maybe that was only the launcher.
#2044 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> It's only the launcher that's publicly available
#2045 [19:11] <Morrolan> But didn't, two or three days ago, someone link to a 1.2.5 version of minecraft.jar on Mojang's cloud account?
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#2047 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> Wasn't here.. don't know.
#2048 [19:11] <DiskDaemon> If someone did, that would be very very naughty of them
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#2050 [19:11] <GreyVulpine> minecraft.jar files are overwritten with each version rollout, so they may have put out a link for a snapshot.
#2051 [19:12] <Morrolan> Why? If Mojang makes that one available, there's nothing wrong with it, DiskDaemon.
#2052 [19:12] <Morrolan> GreyVulpine - Maybe.
#2053 [19:12] <GreyVulpine> For Minecraft to actually run, you would need all the .minecraft files..
#2054 [19:12] <Morrolan> I'd assume so.
#2055 [19:12] <Morrolan> Eh, be it as it be.
#2056 [19:12] <NOobKrafTR> well I just cried all over my keyboard and now its soggy with my broken dreams and isn't weoihjking well so idf gotsz to go.. thankssss
#2057 [19:12] <Morrolan> Bye.
#2058 [19:13] <Morrolan> Oh, don't electrocute yourself.
#2059 [19:13] <DiskDaemon> If mojang make it publicly available, then nothing is wrong. My impression is that you were saying that the full version of 1.2.5 was linked to, which wouldn't be right
#2060 [19:14] <Badger> Hi again. My son's version is 1.3.1. He doesn't seem able to dig upwards very far. Any ideas?
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#2062 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> If it were me, I'd use a map editor to simply move my character to where I need to be.
#2063 [19:16] <GreyVulpine> Also, if you press F3, a debug screen will pop up. If you look at the x/y/z coordinates, you can get a bearing of where you are in the world.
#2064 [19:18] <Badger> thanks. But I take it that unless he knows the coordinates of where he build stuff he's not going to be able to find it again?
#2065 [19:18] <Badger> thanks. But I take it that unless he knows the coordinates of where he build stuff he's not going to be able to find it again?
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#2067 [19:19] <Morrolan> Assuming he didn't move too farm from the world's spawn, you should be able to find it in a worldeditor.
#2068 [19:19] <Morrolan> IF he moved far, it might take a while to find it.
#2069 [19:20] <lutzee> When a world is created, the spawn point normally exists within about 300 blocks of coords x=0 z=0
#2070 [19:20] <Morrolan> Any world editor I've seen so far allows to go to the spawnpoint, anyway
#2071 [19:21] <Badger> Ok. I try downloading editor. Thanks very much guys!
#2072 [19:21] <Morrolan> I'd suggest to use MCEdit.
#2073 [19:21] <Morrolan> ?? mcedit
#2074 [19:21] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#2075 [19:22] <Morrolan> Its navigation takes some getting used to, but it's the only editor I know of.
#2076 [19:22] <Morrolan> If you know the coordinates though, a tool like NBTEdit would be faster and easier, though.
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#2083 [19:56] <meh> what do i do when my server tells me that minecraft has run out of memory
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#2085 [19:58] <meh> what do i do when my server tells me that minecraft has run out of memory
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#2088 [20:17] <superkabii> does the client still default to 512m?
#2089 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2090 [20:17] <SpitefulFox> Is there something I need to do to make older maps playable?
#2091 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> -Xms512 -Xmx1024
#2092 [20:17] <GreyVulpine> Nope. It should autoconvert on its own
#2093 [20:19] <SpitefulFox> Strange. The map doesn't seem to be showing up in the selection for singleplayer.
#2094 [20:19] <SpitefulFox> It's from pre-1.8, if I recall correctly.
#2095 [20:21] <SpitefulFox> Or from whenever the last version was that still used the world# folder naming scheme.
#2096 [20:23] <SpitefulFox> Must be a problem with the save itself. Got a different old map to work. Thanks anyway. :D
#2097 [20:23] <SpitefulFox> Must be a problem with the save itself. Got a different old map to work. Thanks anyway. :D
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#2101 [20:25] <bill> hello?
#2102 [20:25] <lutzee> hey
#2103 [20:25] <bill> know anything about troubleshooting?
#2104 [20:25] <lutzee> This is the help channel ofcourse
#2105 [20:25] <bill> I'm wondering if you're here for help or are helping
#2106 [20:26] <lutzee> helping :)
#2107 [20:26] <bill> I've a need for help
#2108 [20:26] <bill> can't connect to my server
#2109 [20:26] <bill> I have the window right next to my minecraft client window
#2110 [20:27] <lutzee> okay on a locally hosted server (same PC) you should be connecting using "localhost" or "172.0.0.1" as the sever address
#2111 [20:27] <bill> I'l take a stab at that
#2112 [20:27] <Badger> GreyVulpine and Morrolan thankyou very much. With your assistanc he found his buildings. Greatly appreciated!
#2113 [20:27] <bill> that works
#2114 [20:28] <Morrolan> Badger - Ah, good to hear that it worked. :)
#2115 [20:28] <bill> however, typing in my IP address into the server wont work
#2116 [20:28] <xales> bill: Some routers will not forward their own packets
#2117 [20:28] <lutzee> bill, no this isn't possible from the same machine, local host is the local loopback that allows such actions
#2118 [20:28] <xales> So, *you* have to use the local address, and anyone else not on your network has to use the external address
#2119 [20:29] <bill> so, you're saying that even if I typed in my IP into direct connect, it's normal I wouldn't get my server?
#2120 [20:29] <lutzee> yes, that is normal
#2121 [20:29] <xales> That's correct.
#2122 [20:30] <xales> The external address is only for people *not* on your network/computer.
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#2130 [20:37] <Guest2862> So, I am on a Mac, OS X, Lion; and the exact text says "Fatal error occurred (4): " and then it lists the path to my minecraft.jar file.
#2131 [20:37] <xales> ??> Guest2862 mac/reinst
#2132 [20:38] <VoxelHead> Guest2862: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2133 [20:38] <VoxelHead> Guest2862: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2134 [20:39] <bill> so, in short, anyone should be able to connect to my server using my IP, and your bot is having trouble atm
#2135 [20:39] <Guest2862> I have installed two mods - tropicraft and Trains and Zeppelins - will those stay in place? or will I have to reinstall those as well?
#2136 [20:39] <GreyVulpine> You'll need to reinstall it afterwards
#2137 [20:39] <Morrolan> You'd have to reinstall them as well. First make sure it works without mods though.
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#2139 [20:39] <xales> bill: Try doing the check again.
#2140 [20:40] <Guest2862> And how about my various "worlds" will those continue to exist?
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#2142 [20:40] <bill> !check (174.3.245.122)
#2143 [20:40] <xales> Guest2862: As long as you do not delete the saves folder, yes.
#2144 [20:40] <xales> bill: No parenthesis
#2145 [20:40] <xales> Just "!check 255.255.255.255"
#2146 [20:40] <xales> or whatever
#2147 [20:40] <Guest2862> excellent. Thank you very much for your help!!
#2148 [20:40] <Guest2862> exit
#2149 [20:40] <bill> !check (174.3.245.122):25565
#2150 [20:41] <GreyVulpine> !check 174.3.245.122
#2151 [20:41] <bill> !check (174.3.245.122)
#2152 [20:41] <xales> bill: Again, no parenthesis
#2153 [20:41] <xales> bill: Again, no parenthesis
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#2157 [20:41] <bill> !check (174.3.245.122)
#2158 [20:41] <Morrolan> ...
#2159 [20:41] <Morrolan> bill: None of those: ()
#2160 [20:41] <bill> ok
#2161 [20:42] <bill> !check 174.3.245.122
#2162 [20:42] <Alaistier> Hello, everyone. When I'm either online or offline I have severe graphical lag unless: 1) I just started the game. The first 2 minutes are okay; 2) I look straight up; or 3) I look straight down.
#2163 [20:42] <Alaistier> How can I try to get rid of that?
#2164 [20:42] <xales> Alaistier: Are you using any mods?
#2165 [20:42] <Alaistier> No.
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#2167 [20:43] <Alaistier> I tried optimax, but no adjustments solved the problem.
#2168 [20:43] <Morrolan> bill - Seems there's still something messed up with the portforwarding, the server isn't running, or AuBot is tired.
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#2170 [20:43] <bill> thanks for the help
#2171 [20:43] <xales> Alaistier: Could try setting the graphics at minimum, making sure any and all other programs are closed when you run Minecraft, and possibly updating graphics drivers.
#2172 [20:43] <xales> Alaistier: Usually, however, the problem is just that the computer is too slow and you'll never get it working perfectly. Better, perhaps, but...really depends on the computer.
#2173 [20:44] <Morrolan> I don't think bill actually listened to anything we said, eh?
#2174 [20:44] <xales> Morrolan: Indeed
#2175 [20:44] <lutzee> Morrolan, he listened when i said to use localhost and that was about it
#2176 [20:44] <Alaistier> xales: What are decent specs to at least not have choppy gameplay? Sometimes, I can't even scroll the mouse wheel to switch what I'm golding.
#2177 [20:44] <Alaistier> *holding.
#2178 [20:44] <Morrolan> lutzee - Heh.
#2179 [20:45] <xales> Alaistier: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
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#2181 [20:45] <Alaistier> Thanks.
#2182 [20:45] <Morrolan> xales - Why are those requirements advising to use Java 7?
#2183 [20:46] <Morrolan> Looks like a case of support not talking with development.
#2184 [20:46] <Alaistier> How can I check all of my Java components?
#2185 [20:47] <Morrolan> Control panel -> software -> (un)install software, or similar.
#2186 [20:47] <Morrolan> "control panel -> programs and features" in detail view, "control panel -> uninstall a program" in regular view on Windows 7.
#2187 [20:48] <Morrolan> Depending on your OS it might be called slightly different, but you should be able to find it.
#2188 [20:48] <Alaistier> Yeah, I've got it.
#2189 [20:48] <Morrolan> Very well. Good night. :)
#2190 [20:49] <Alaistier> Wait, wait.
#2191 [20:49] <Alaistier> Don't kick me out just yet.
#2192 [20:49] <Alaistier> Oh, you're leaving.
#2193 [20:49] <Alaistier> Goodnight.
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#2197 [21:00] <ga1294> I just tried to download modloader. Pretty sure I followed all of the directions, when i try to launch Minecraft the screen quickly flashes 'loading' and then goes blank. Please be nice..I am a parent trying to help my kid..
#2198 [21:00] <xales> ga1294: It's installed wrong; likely, forgot to delete the files in META-INF
#2199 [21:01] <ga1294> No, deleted it. Then checked archive too
#2200 [21:01] <xales> Wrong version of Modloader, probably, then
#2201 [21:01] <xales> Either way, we can't really provide support for third-party software; being made by third-parties, it often doesn't work and is unstable.
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#2203 [21:02] <joshft91> Hey guys - quick question regarding enchanting and bookcases. I have 16 book cases (enough to max in 1.3), however, my max level enchantment on a tool is only 20. Any ideas?
#2204 [21:02] <xales> We can help you get the game working again, but if you want help installing mods/modloader, you'll have to look elsewhere. Perhaps #risucraft or #direwolf20
#2205 [21:02] <ga1294> understand. any way to undo it?
#2206 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> Some easy to follow instructions on how to install mods can be found at http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1125989-how-to-install-mods-with-pics/
#2207 [21:02] <xales> ??> ga1294 forceupdate
#2208 [21:02] <VoxelHead> ga1294: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2209 [21:02] <VoxelHead> ga1294: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2210 [21:02] <xales> joshft91: Check the wiki on enchanting. http://minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Enchanting
#2211 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> joshft91: Bookcases are blocked even if a torch is placed on them
#2212 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> joshft91: There must be completely clear air-gap between the bookshelf and the enchanter, for the bookshelf to be effective
#2213 [21:04] <joshft91> Hm... the level indicator says "30" with the bar partly full. does that mean I am level 30 or I'm about to reach level 3?
#2214 [21:04] <ga1294> Thanks very much!
#2215 [21:04] <joshft91> DiskDaemon: I bet that's my problem. I had my enchanting table right next to it.
#2216 [21:04] <xales> joshft91: It means you are at 30, and half way to gaining another level
#2217 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> Level 30 is the maximum now
#2218 [21:04] <xales> plus that ^
#2219 [21:04] <joshft91> yup, that'd be my problem. Well shoot... I had uneven rooms.
#2220 [21:05] <joshft91> I have a 4 wide room and wanted to put a potion thing in there too.
#2221 [21:05] <joshft91> hm.
#2222 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> It needs a footprint of 5 if you want full strength enchanting
#2223 [21:06] <joshft91> can you stack bookcases?
#2224 [21:06] <joshft91> ^ and still gain max enchanting, that is.
#2225 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> Yes, one at the enchanter height, and one above it
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#2227 [21:07] <joshft91> hm, alright. guess I'll have to play around adn see what I can come up with.
#2228 [21:07] <joshft91> Thanks Disk.
#2229 [21:07] <zach_> i need help with downloading minecraft
#2230 [21:07] <xales> zach_: Are you trying to play the demo?
#2231 [21:07] <zach_> no i have account and just got new computer
#2232 [21:08] <xales> Okay, what, exactly, is the problem then?
#2233 [21:08] <joshft91> http://www.minecraft.net/download?
#2234 [21:09] <zach_> well i have a mac and when i attempt to download it, it gives me a zip file i un zip it and it says this file has been damaged and i have tried many many times
#2235 [21:10] <zach_> im updated on java and everything
#2236 [21:11] <zach_> hello?
#2237 [21:11] <joshft91> so is the problem unzipping the file?
#2238 [21:12] <joshft91> sorry, we may not be able to respond right away ;)
#2239 [21:12] <zach_> yes i think so.. and its okay'
#2240 [21:13] <joshft91> if the problem is unzipping it, I'd try looking up that error and see what it says.
#2241 [21:13] <joshft91> I don't have a MAC so I can't help a lot with that.
#2242 [21:14] <zach_> haha its okay and i have done a lot of research and still cant find anuything.. i downloaded tekkit and it seems to work so i dont seem to think that its the unzipping'
#2243 [21:16] <joshft91> Hm...yeah, I'd be out of ideas then
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#2245 [21:16] <joshft91> might want to ask the question again and see if anyone else has ideas
#2246 [21:16] <zach_> lol this is my first time trying an open chat thing is there a number i can call or anything like that
#2247 [21:16] <minecraftmom> i have a question
#2248 [21:17] <minecraftmom> can anyone help?
#2249 [21:17] <xales> zach_: still here?
#2250 [21:17] <minecraftmom> hello???
#2251 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> zach_: Sorry mate, but this is not the official Mojang technical support. That doesn't exist as of yet
#2252 [21:17] <xales> minecraftmom: Yes?
#2253 [21:17] <xales> ??> zach_ mac/gatekeeper
#2254 [21:17] <VoxelHead> zach_: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2255 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> zach_: We are volunteers from all around the world, helping people as and where we can
#2256 [21:17] <minecraftmom> i have four boys i bought this game for to play and
#2257 [21:18] <zach_> yes im still here xxales
#2258 [21:18] <minecraftmom> one was naughty and let a friend type in some bad words and got banned
#2259 [21:18] <DiskDaemon> minecraftmom: Four boys might mean buying four separate accounts for them
#2260 [21:18] <minecraftmom> now his brothers cannot play...my oldest is banned at our house, but can i fix this for the other brothers?
#2261 [21:19] <xales> minecraftmom: They would be banned from whatever specific server they were playing on at the time.
#2262 [21:19] <xales> The ban is likely temporary; if they use different accounts, then the ban will not affect anyone but the one using the account that got banned.
#2263 [21:19] <xales> However, as we don't run the various servers, it's up to them who then ban, why, and for how long.
#2264 [21:20] <minecraftmom> we started with one, because his other brothers are young, and I monitor their time on
#2265 [21:20] <xales> They are welcome to play on a different server, of course.
#2266 [21:20] <minecraftmom> their friends are on the sm2...you think it may be temp?
#2267 [21:21] <zach_> okay im trying it now
#2268 [21:21] <zach_> THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR THREE DAYS I LOVE YOU!!!!1
#2269 [21:22] <xales> minecraftmom: That depends on the server, but more than likely, yes.
#2270 [21:22] <zach_> thank you voxelhead!
#2271 [21:23] <minecraftmom> thank you!..and my kids LOVE this game!...especially our youngest autistic son...he builds some AMAZING things!!
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#2273 [21:23] <Miner751> hi all!
#2274 [21:24] <lutzee> We are glad they do, a lot of people here also enjoy the game :)
#2275 [21:24] <lutzee> hey Miner751
#2276 [21:24] <minecraftmom> thank you, and good night!
#2277 [21:24] <Miner751> can someone help me to do a building in my minecraft server?
#2278 [21:24] <Miner751> can someone help me to do a building in my minecraft server?
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#2280 [21:25] <Miner751> l
#2281 [21:25] <Miner751> l
#2282 [21:25] <xales> Miner751: Sorry, no; this channel is for technical support.
#2283 [21:25] <DiskDaemon> Miner751: What sort of help? Do you want some advice, or do you need people to join your server?
#2284 [21:26] <Miner751> fuck all of you stupid dick faces
#2285 [21:26] * AuBot kicked Miner751 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: iner751 :Please keep it civil.)
#2286 [21:26] * lutzee pats aubot
#2286 [21:26] <xales> well he must have been about 10
#2287 [21:26] <xales> ._.
#2288 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> I know that it's easy to judge people based on where they are, but being from Mexico doesn't help his case :)
#2289 [21:28] <Vindictis> that has to be one of the funniest things i've seen all day
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#2296 [21:40] <xales> .nick AuBot
#2297 [21:40] <xales> lol