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#3 [00:12] <Proud> hey
#4 [00:12] <Proud> so i have a problem downloading the game client
#5 [00:12] <zkxs> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#6 [00:13] <Proud> it just says minecraft_exe couldnt be downloaded
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#8 [00:15] <zkxs> Proud: Use a different browser
#9 [00:15] <uplusion23> I'm back here again. I can't stand waiting. It's been 3 and a half days now, and I've emailed Mojang support, with no response. Anyone here able to assist me in getting help on a stolen Minecraft account?
#10 [00:16] <Kanegasi> how was it stolen? did anyone else know the password?
#11 [00:16] <uplusion23> Nobody else knew the password.
#12 [00:16] <uplusion23> It was the only password I had that was only used on my Minecraft account.
#13 [00:16] <uplusion23> It was a really strong one too.
#14 [00:17] <Kanegasi> how do you know its stolen? is it just that you cant log in? do you know someone is using it?
#15 [00:18] <uplusion23> I don't know for sure someone is using it. I can't log in, and I've tried all passwords I know. And it seems they changed the email, since when I asked for all the accounts listed with my email, I only got my other one.
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#17 [00:19] <uplusion23> I'm really stumped too, because owning a server is difficult to moderate without an account. xD
#18 [00:19] <Kanegasi> did you migrate the account?
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#20 [00:19] <uplusion23> I do not believe so.
#21 [00:19] <uplusion23> Let me check really quick.
#22 [00:21] <uplusion23> Nope, I didn't.
#23 [00:22] <uplusion23> I believe they changed the email.
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#25 [00:22] <uplusion23> Is there a way to see a few characters of the currently registered email to a username without having to log in.
#26 [00:22] <uplusion23> Is there a way to see a few characters of the currently registered email to a username without having to log in?*
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#31 [00:31] <Kanegasi> not sure uplusion
#32 [00:31] <Kanegasi> no need to repeat questions though lol
#33 [00:32] <Kanegasi> this might help though if this wasnt the original email action you took http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#34 [00:33] <Kanegasi> instead of providing the new email, you can describe your predicament. if you have solid proof you brought that license, they may help
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#39 [00:45] <uplusion23> Would my UUID Code help? Since I used my brothers PayPal in order to purchase the code about two years ago, and I'm certain he doesn't have the information.
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#44 [01:04] <saltyfingerz> is any one there?
#45 [01:05] <saltyfingerz> My game is getting stuck, on the download screen.
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#59 [02:06] <su> lol
#60 [02:06] <su> Really
#61 [02:07] <su> That's like the 5th time this month
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#72 [02:33] <artur101> how i change my e-mail in account
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#74 [02:35] <Smanly> You cant.
#75 [02:35] <Smanly> Unless you mirgate it, maybe.
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#81 [02:57] <artur101> for migrate I need the password
#82 [02:57] <artur101> but password i do not know, ineed to send a email to change password
#83 [02:58] <artur101> but there is problem i do not know the e-mail or is there sometrhing changed
#84 [02:58] <artur101> what I do not know
#85 [02:59] <artur101> my account is dor_up2
#86 [03:00] <artur101> Dor_Op2
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#92 [03:13] <artur101> some help please!
#93 [03:16] <Smanly> ??>> artur101 support
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#96 [03:30] <artur101> I need to change my e-mail address on minecraft account
#97 [03:31] <artur101> how do to it?
#98 [03:34] <Andrio> [23:27:23] <@GreyVulpine> artur101 - Please read: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#99 [03:42] <artur101> nothing was good, I cant' use my account
#100 [03:42] <artur101> is like I ned the hack back my account?
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#103 [03:50] <SinZ> artur101: if you cant prove you own the account, they cant do anything.
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#116 [04:17] <reallynewperson> Excuse My minecraft keeps running out of memory and none of the other videos or explanations have helped
#117 [04:19] <GreyVulpine> Try turning down some of the graphical options in minecraft. If you have a 64 bit operating system, install 64 bit java.
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#119 [04:19] <Smanly> reallynewperson: q How much ram do you have?
#120 [04:19] <reallynewperson> i have turned down all the options and are running a 32 bit machine
#121 [04:19] <reallynewperson> 1.37 gigs
#122 [04:20] <Smanly> Thats is really not enough ram, reallynewperson.
#123 [04:20] <reallynewperson> oh
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#125 [04:20] <Smanly> ...
#126 [04:21] <Elystus> Smanly: That can be....
#127 [04:21] <Smanly> Huh?
#128 [04:21] <Elystus> You should have told him to allocate 400mb or so.
#129 [04:21] <Smanly> I know
#130 [04:21] <Smanly> He left
#131 [04:21] <Elystus> Oh :P
#132 [04:21] <Smanly> Yeah...
#133 [04:21] <Sophia> lol.
#134 [04:21] <Sophia> ram is dirt cheap
#135 [04:22] <Sophia> buy 16gb for £50
#136 [04:22] <Sophia> :D
#137 [04:22] <Elystus> I got 8 gigs of 2133ghz ram for 50
#138 [04:22] <Elystus> $
#139 [04:22] <Sophia> exchange rates ;3
#140 [04:24] <Calinou> <Smanly> Thats is really not enough ram, reallynewperson.
#141 [04:24] * Calinou facepalms
#141 [04:24] <Calinou> 1GB ram can run minecraft playably, provided you don't use a texpack above 64x
#142 [04:25] <Sophia> playably == 5fps
#143 [04:25] <Calinou> you just need to allocate the good amount of memory to it
#144 [04:25] <Smanly> Right...
#145 [04:25] <Smanly> I know
#146 [04:25] <Calinou> ram doesn't affect performance
#147 [04:25] <Calinou> it does if your computer swaps to disk
#148 [04:25] <Calinou> else, it doesn't
#149 [04:25] <Sophia> 1gb for system, 1gb for minecraft, thats so cheap to get..
#150 [04:25] <Smanly> But minecraft by default is set to 1g, right?
#151 [04:25] <Sophia> yup
#152 [04:25] <Calinou> 1gb for system > consider not having windows crapware
#153 [04:25] <Calinou> Smanly, no, default ram allocation is dynamic, depends on your amount of ram
#154 [04:26] <Sophia> but system uses 200-400mb by defaultusually
#155 [04:26] <Smanly> I dont think so, Calinou.
#156 [04:26] <Calinou> winblows uses certainly more than 200mb of ram by default :P
#157 [04:26] <Calinou> Smanly, see F3
#158 [04:26] <Smanly> It wouldn't be running out of memory then.
#159 [04:26] <Sophia> ok lets just jump into OS wars again
#160 [04:26] <Sophia> thatll help lololol
#161 [04:26] <Calinou> on my laptop - default RAM allocation is ~600mb (debug screen), on my desktop, 910mb
#162 [04:26] <Smanly> Hmm
#163 [04:26] <Calinou> laptop has 4GB ram, desktop 12GB
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#165 [04:27] <loslmonster> hello?
#166 [04:27] <Smanly> Me?
#167 [04:28] <loslmonster> anyone,
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#169 [04:28] <loslmonster> is there any possible way to find out what email was used to make the minecraft account?
#170 [04:28] <Calinou> log in - you can see the obfuscated email, not the full email, though
#171 [04:28] <loslmonster> can't log in without my password. which is forgotten
#172 [04:28] <loslmonster> and can't get password reset without email
#173 [04:29] <loslmonster> no idea what email i used
#174 [04:29] <Smanly> How many email do you have?
#175 [04:29] <loslmonster> to many... i bought the game when it first came out
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#177 [04:29] <loslmonster> it could be any email..
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#181 [04:30] <Smanly> Get guessing, loslmonster!
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#183 [04:31] <loslmonster> i can't recall it
#184 [04:31] <loslmonster> you think mojang would be able to tell me what email i used...
#185 [04:32] <OP> I forget who is was you could ask.
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#199 [05:00] <Calinou> don't use away nicks/messages.
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#212 [05:39] <MrTaik> hi!
#213 [05:39] <MrTaik> italians?
#214 [05:39] <MrTaik> I have a big problem
#215 [05:39] <Smanly> Hmm?
#216 [05:40] <MrTaik> I can't set
#217 [05:40] <MrTaik> skin in my premium account
#218 [05:40] <Smanly> Why not?
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#220 [05:40] <MrTaik> sorry form my english but I'm italian
#221 [05:41] <MrTaik> upload work fine
#222 [05:41] <MrTaik> but whet I test
#223 [05:41] <MrTaik> skin
#224 [05:41] <MrTaik> won't work
#225 [05:41] <MrTaik> (not working)
#226 [05:41] <MrTaik> sorry
#227 [05:41] <MrTaik> :)
#228 [05:42] <MrTaik> we have any solutions or mojang contact?
#229 [05:43] <MrTaik> ??
#230 [05:43] <Smanly> What is your Username?
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#234 [05:44] <Smanly> MrTaik's skin is set.
#235 [05:44] <Smanly> Oh...
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#240 [05:48] <Elystus> Lol Smanly, every time I join the person you are talking to leaves.
#241 [05:48] <Smanly> Yeah...
#242 [05:49] <Smanly> Please stop it.
#243 [05:49] <Smanly> kthnks
#244 [05:49] <Elystus> :P
#245 [05:49] <Smanly> ;D
#246 [05:49] * Elystus sits in a corner and watches
#246 [05:50] <Smanly> I want &k But for colors
#247 [05:50] <Smanly> Is that genius or what?
#248 [05:51] <Elystus> I want food...
#249 [05:53] <Smanly> Grab me some aswell.
#250 [05:53] * Elystus throws chips at Smanly
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#251 [06:03] <swam_in_lava> hello
#252 [06:03] <swam_in_lava> someone gave me a keylogger and stole my minecraft account
#253 [06:03] <swam_in_lava> and then changed the email
#254 [06:03] <Elystus> get malwarebytes and do a scan
#255 [06:03] <swam_in_lava> what do i do?
#256 [06:04] <Elystus> after that we will recover both your email account and minecraft account
#257 [06:04] <swam_in_lava> how?
#258 [06:04] <Elystus> download malwarebytes and run it
#259 [06:04] <Elystus> http://www.malwarebytes.org/
#260 [06:04] <swam_in_lava> i am
#261 [06:04] <Elystus> it will get rid of any malware
#262 [06:05] <Elystus> okay, wait until that is done.
#263 [06:05] <swam_in_lava> so there is a way u can rlly help me?
#264 [06:05] <Elystus> I can tell you how to recover the account once the scan is complete.
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#266 [06:06] <swam_in_lava> all i have is server.old files and stuff
#267 [06:06] <swam_in_lava> thats all i have to proove
#268 [06:06] <swam_in_lava> other than the server i host or something
#269 [06:06] <Elystus> You also have the transaction id from when you purchased minecraft.
#270 [06:06] <Elystus> But, all you should need to do is a password reset.
#271 [06:07] <swam_in_lava> i hope
#272 [06:07] <swam_in_lava> he changed my registered email too
#273 [06:07] <Elystus> Then you will need to contact Mojang.
#274 [06:07] <swam_in_lava> how do i do that
#275 [06:07] <Elystus> first read this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#276 [06:08] <Elystus> then this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#277 [06:08] <Elystus> It will tell you how to contact them.
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#281 [06:10] <artur101> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361482 is not working
#282 [06:10] <swam_in_lava_> sorry i disconnected
#283 [06:10] <artur101> and my account is hacked
#284 [06:10] <swam_in_lava_> ely
#285 [06:10] <swam_in_lava_> what was the other link u gave me?
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#287 [06:10] <Elystus> Okay hold on swam
#288 [06:10] <Elystus> then this: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361483-my-account-was-hacked
#289 [06:11] <Elystus> artur101: Do you know the article name?
#290 [06:11] <artur101> and there is: Please first make sure that this is not a login issue. Information on how to reset your email and password can be found at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361482 and the link is not working
#291 [06:12] <artur101> I got Last Updated: Liquid error: undefined method `in_time_zone' for nil:NilClass
#292 [06:12] <Elystus> Oh, I see that
#293 [06:12] <Elystus> I will let Marc know so he can fix it.
#294 [06:13] <artur101> ok
#295 [06:13] <artur101> a week i cant give the account to my kid
#296 [06:13] <swam_in_lava_> yeah theres a n error
#297 [06:14] <swam_in_lava_> this sucks cuz i totally need help
#298 [06:14] <artur101> Marc please help me!
#299 [06:14] <Elystus> Marc isn't here
#300 [06:14] <Elystus> he is sleeping
#301 [06:15] <Elystus> I sent a tweet to him. If he doesn't fix it by tomorrow when I get back, I will tell him to fix it over skype.
#302 [06:15] <Elystus> He just is not on skype at 3 am >_>
#303 [06:15] <swam_in_lava_> lol
#304 [06:15] <swam_in_lava_> :p
#305 [06:15] <swam_in_lava_> i hate keyloggers
#306 [06:16] <Elystus> Same, pain in the arse.
#307 [06:16] <swam_in_lava_> and how do u change an email cuz ive never migrated my account
#308 [06:16] <swam_in_lava_> unless they migrated it
#309 [06:16] <Elystus> They might have been able to migrate the account.
#310 [06:16] <swam_in_lava_> is there any evidence i could get to prove that i own the account
#311 [06:16] <Elystus> when you try to log in does it say account migrated?
#312 [06:17] <swam_in_lava_> no when i try to log in it says wrong password lol
#313 [06:17] <swam_in_lava_> or username
#314 [06:17] <swam_in_lava_> it jsut doesnt work
#315 [06:17] <Elystus> swam_in_lava_: THe transaction id article should give information on how to get your transaction id. A transaction id is all that is needed to prove ownership.
#316 [06:17] <swam_in_lava_> ive tried on minecraft.net and on the game itself
#317 [06:17] <Elystus> swam_in_lava_: Have you made sure that the username is correct?
#318 [06:17] <swam_in_lava_> yeah but we have to wait for a bank statement for it
#319 [06:18] <swam_in_lava_> and yeah the username im using currently is my minecraft username
#320 [06:18] <Elystus> Double check: http://www.minecraft.net/retrievename
#321 [06:18] <swam_in_lava_> yeah
#322 [06:18] <swam_in_lava_> its right
#323 [06:19] <Elystus> you got an email?
#324 [06:19] <swam_in_lava_> i also still have the remember me thing checked out
#325 [06:19] <swam_in_lava_> the email on the account was changed i believe
#326 [06:19] <swam_in_lava_> cuz i sent a transaction thing
#327 [06:19] <swam_in_lava_> and it was accepted by someone
#328 [06:19] <swam_in_lava_> and it want me
#329 [06:19] <swam_in_lava_> wasnt me
#330 [06:19] <Elystus> swam_in_lava_: Do the link I gave you. It will do two things, check to see if the email is changed and it will doublecheck to see if the username is correct
#331 [06:20] <swam_in_lava_> i did
#332 [06:20] <swam_in_lava_> i idd that twice yesterday
#333 [06:20] <Elystus> did you get an email confirming it?
#334 [06:20] <swam_in_lava_> no
#335 [06:20] <Elystus> Then just do this page: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#336 [06:21] <Elystus> You will need your transaction id.
#337 [06:21] <Elystus> Okay I am going to bed. Need to wake up in 4 hours >_>
#338 [06:21] <swam_in_lava_> wait
#339 [06:21] <swam_in_lava_> fuck
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#341 [06:28] <artur101> i have the transaction id
#342 [06:28] <artur101> where to give this id, to have pack my account
#343 [06:32] <Smanly> Contact Mojang
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#345 [06:33] <artur101> to where? letters them are not answering
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#347 [06:44] <Mimirsmurmurs> Hello, all. I'm new to Minecraft and I have a question.
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#349 [06:46] <Smanly> Ask away
#350 [06:49] <Mimirsmurmurs> Well, my brother and I recently purchased Minecraft as an -- inventive way -- to keep in touch.
#351 [06:50] <Mimirsmurmurs> We started our own server and ... well ... leave it to us ... we managed to screw something up within a few short hours.
#352 [06:50] <Smanly> Go on.
#353 [06:50] <Mimirsmurmurs> We tried to delete our previous server so that we might start from scratch.
#354 [06:51] <Mimirsmurmurs> No dice.
#355 [06:51] <Mimirsmurmurs> We entered what we thought was a new server, but we're in the same predicament we were previously.
#356 [06:52] <Smanly> Bukkit or vanilla?
#357 [06:52] <Mimirsmurmurs> Do we have to delete *all* of the contents of our server files to start fresh?
#358 [06:53] <Mimirsmurmurs> Bukkit?
#359 [06:53] <Smanly> Where are you getting the server sofware from?
#360 [06:54] <Boreeas> Could you tell us exactly what you did screw up?
#361 [06:54] <Smanly> ^that too
#362 [06:54] <Mimirsmurmurs> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/153050-guide-how-to-setup-a-minecraft-multiplayer-server/
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#364 [06:55] <Mimirsmurmurs> That's where we picked up the software to start us off.
#365 [06:55] <Smanly> Which did you pick?
#366 [06:55] <Smanly> 1.0a - Setting up a Classic (Creative) Server!
#367 [06:55] <Smanly> 2.0a - Setting up a Non-Modded SMP (Beta / Survival Multi-Player) Server!
#368 [06:55] <Smanly> 3.0a - Setting up a Modded SMP (Beta / Survival Multi-Player) Server!
#369 [06:55] <Mimirsmurmurs> The SMP Non-Modded.
#370 [06:55] <Mimirsmurmurs> He wanted to try his hand at "Seeding" the server.
#371 [06:55] <Smanly> Also, this is a pretty dated guide.
#372 [06:56] <Mimirsmurmurs> So he did. Except there was one problem.
#373 [06:56] <Smanly> http://www.minecraft.net/download
#374 [06:56] <Mimirsmurmurs> Those "Creeper" things that explode? The level was spawning them like two rabbits in heat. :[
#375 [06:57] <Mimirsmurmurs> He couldn't figure out what he'd done. So we need a fresh start.
#376 [06:57] <Smanly> Hmm
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#378 [06:59] <Smanly> What exactly do you need help with?
#379 [06:59] <bearlindo> HI someone here ho knows where i can get the default look on minecraft as a .zip file
#380 [07:00] <bearlindo> i want the default texturepack as a zip file
#381 [07:00] <Smanly> Do you mean as a texturepack?
#382 [07:00] <Smanly> Um
#383 [07:00] <Smanly> There is a terrain.png in your minecraft.jar.
#384 [07:01] <Smanly> Along with any other image files you want.
#385 [07:01] <Smanly> What are you planning on doing?
#386 [07:02] <bearlindo> change the png for the pictures to this one instead http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/harry-potter-actors-paintings-kzpng2048x2048/
#387 [07:02] <bearlindo> change the painting picture to that one
#388 [07:03] <Smanly> Did you read that page at all?
#389 [07:03] <Smanly> One sec.
#390 [07:04] <bearlindo> yes it says change in the texturepack folder but when the default does not come as a tp.ip file i dont know how to do
#391 [07:09] <Smanly> bearlindo: Try this. Make a folder called "art", Place the images in it, right click on the folder, send to compressed zip
#392 [07:09] <Smanly> Not sure if that works though.
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#404 [07:56] <mr_pants> i need help minecraft don't start there is only Could not create Java virtual machine.A fatal exception has orrucpied. Program will Exit
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#409 [08:06] <Razza15> i need help with a debian tekkit server
#410 [08:06] <Razza15> Its my friend setting the server up this time guys could you help us?
#411 [08:08] <DiskDaemon> Razza15: Sorry, but modded servers tend to have different issues from unmodded ones
#412 [08:08] <Razza15> the only problem is
#413 [08:08] <Razza15> we cannot get the serverproperties file
#414 [08:08] <Razza15> im asking would we open the launch.bat on a pc then put all the files onto debian?
#415 [08:09] <DiskDaemon> That's automatically created when the server is first run. At least, on unmodded servers it is.
#416 [08:09] <Razza15> same with tekkit!
#417 [08:09] <Razza15> im saying
#418 [08:09] <DiskDaemon> I have no idea how to troubleshoot a tekkit server
#419 [08:09] <Razza15> would i run the server on my pc generate all the files then put everything on debian after its generated?
#420 [08:10] <DiskDaemon> Hell, we don't even handle bukkit servers here
#421 [08:10] <Razza15> someone helped me with tekkit last night
#422 [08:10] <Razza15> :/
#423 [08:10] <Razza15> Kealper : :/
#424 [08:11] <DiskDaemon> The IRC channel for tekkit assistance can be found at irc.synirc.net in the #Tekkit channel
#425 [08:11] <Razza15> no one is on it!
#426 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> Hrm - that's where the tekkit website says to go
#427 [08:12] <DiskDaemon> sorry, the #Technic channel on the irc.synirc.net server
#428 [08:15] <DiskDaemon> You can get there via https://www.synirc.net/ which has a webchat for that server
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#431 [08:18] <DiskDaemon> Even when saying no, always give them a pathway towards a solution. I find that helps to resolve a lot of arguments
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#438 [08:33] <zen> At least i don't have to bitch about how tekkit is bad here, i can just send them away :p
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#451 [09:02] <applecpugeek> still
#452 [09:02] <applecpugeek> skins are not loading for me
#453 [09:03] <zen> It's probably the skin servers derping again
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#456 [09:07] <gwtmillar> hi i'm having issues starting up minecraft. it just says minecraft is updating then it says done loading with the green loading bar almost full but then nothing happens?
#457 [09:08] <zen> gwtmillar, do you have AVG?
#458 [09:08] <gwtmillar> yes
#459 [09:08] <zen> You need to disable the linkscanner module,
#460 [09:08] <gwtmillar> how do i do that?
#461 [09:09] <Calinou> go into AVG's control panel...
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#463 [09:12] <gwtmillar> then uncheck the bax that say enable surfshield?
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#465 [09:16] <Calinou> no, link scanner.
#466 [09:18] <JKL> are session servers recovered?
#467 [09:19] <gwtmillar> i went to link scanner and the only thing i can do is enable or disable surf-shield?
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#469 [09:25] <Calinou> gwtmillar, well, then disable it then try again maybe
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#471 [09:29] <gwtmillar> nope same problem
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#484 [10:00] <FBkid> hello?
#485 [10:00] <Andrio> Hello
#486 [10:00] <FBkid> can u help me
#487 [10:01] <Andrio> What do you need help with?
#488 [10:01] <FBkid> i need to purchase minecraft with paypal but with american dollars but i comes up in euros
#489 [10:01] <FBkid> i meant it
#490 [10:02] <Calinou> even if it comes up in euros, it /will/ work, as far as I know
#491 [10:02] <Calinou> 20 euros is about 26 dollars
#492 [10:02] <FBkid> hold on
#493 [10:03] <FBkid> it comes up €19.95
#494 [10:04] <Calinou> yes, and you can still buy it with american dollars
#495 [10:04] <FBkid> how will it double the price or can you change it
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#497 [10:05] <FBkid> will it double that price or can u change it
#498 [10:06] <Calinou> no... your dollars will be "converted" to euros
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#500 [10:06] <FBkid> well if you pay euros with american dollars it will be more than the price like double
#501 [10:07] <lutzee> how much in USD does it say on minecraft.net?
#502 [10:07] <lutzee> <lutzee> .wa 20 euro to USD
#503 [10:07] <lutzee> <Shocky> lutzee: http://bit.ly/NbpDpV | Result: $24.73 (US dollars)
#504 [10:07] <Calinou> ^
#505 [10:08] <FBkid> 26.95 american
#506 [10:08] <FBkid> thats what im tryin to pay
#507 [10:08] <lutzee> It would be cheaper if you payed the euro price by over 2 dollars
#508 [10:09] <FBkid> so ur sayin if i pay 19.95 in euros what will it be in american dollars
#509 [10:09] <lutzee> $24.73
#510 [10:10] <FBkid> ok one second
#511 [10:11] <FBkid> it would not change really so i would be fine the price wouldnt be any higher?
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#513 [10:13] <FBkid> ok so im going to try later are you sure it will be $24.73
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#542 [11:21] <joshft91> I started a hardcore world in 1.3 and I'm about to go into the Nether. However, I thought I remember reading somewhere that the Nether is broken right now - is that true?
#543 [11:22] <tikker> well
#544 [11:22] <tikker> it occasionally happen you'll fall into the void and die
#545 [11:22] <tikker> so it's a bit of a gamble :?
#546 [11:23] <joshft91> hm. As much as I don't want to do it...guess I"ll just make a backup before going into it.
#547 [11:23] <joshft91> Cheap, I know :3
#548 [11:23] <tikker> yeah
#549 [11:23] <tikker> just make a backup and go for it :D
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#556 [11:33] <Crimethinker> I've got a little problem...
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#558 [11:34] <tikker> talk
#559 [11:34] <Crimethinker> Okay, so I have a MC save that I've been working on for quite a while.
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#561 [11:35] <Crimethinker> Because of my techie nature, I opened the save in Linux, then copied it back into my Windows drive.
#562 [11:35] <Crimethinker> Now, the save is broken.
#563 [11:35] <Crimethinker> It doesn't appear in the save list.
#564 [11:36] <tikker> mmm that is weird
#565 [11:36] <tikker> it should not happen
#566 [11:36] <Crimethinker> I opened it in NBTedit, and it gave me a very strange message.
#567 [11:36] <tikker> what message
#568 [11:36] <Crimethinker> I'll give a pastebin link.
#569 [11:36] <tikker> ok
#570 [11:36] <Crimethinker> Hold on a sec.
#571 [11:37] <Crimethinker> http://pastebin.com/sX87RMAY
#572 [11:38] <tikker> seems the world got corrupted
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#575 [11:38] <Sophia> xD!!
#576 [11:38] <tikker> when you say open the save, you just mean played the game right?
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#578 [11:39] <Crimethinker> Yup.
#579 [11:39] <tikker> any mods installed?
#580 [11:39] <Crimethinker> Nope.
#581 [11:39] <lutzee> charliehumble, which file are you opening with nbtedit?
#582 [11:39] <Crimethinker> I did patch the jar, though.
#583 [11:39] <tikker> with
#584 [11:39] <Crimethinker> MCPatcher.
#585 [11:40] <tikker> for a texture pack right? but still that shouldn't cause any trouble
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#587 [11:40] <Crimethinker> Yeah.
#588 [11:40] <tikker> you could try opening it with MCEdit and re-saving it
#589 [11:40] <Crimethinker> Thanks. I'll try that.
#590 [11:41] <Crimethinker> It says the world is empty. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
#591 [11:42] <Sophia> you dont have the original save?
#592 [11:42] <Crimethinker> I'll look.
#593 [11:43] <Sophia> go straight from original save -> open a copy of it in mcedit
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#595 [11:44] <Crimethinker> I have an extremely outdated version.
#596 [11:44] <tikker> of the save?
#597 [11:44] <Sophia> update it
#598 [11:44] <Jhpompe> hi I've recently logged tried to log on to mine craft but when i logged in all i got is a crash report and i have it copied
#599 [11:44] <Crimethinker> I could try reconstructing it from screenshots.
#600 [11:44] <Crimethinker> @tikker Yes.
#601 [11:44] <Jhpompe> could anyone help?
#602 [11:44] <Sophia> find a "linux to windows minecraft world conversion" guide somewhere
#603 [11:45] <tikker> well, that't better then nothing :/
#604 [11:45] <tikker> Jhpompe show us the log
#605 [11:45] <tikker> on pastebin
#606 [11:45] <Jhpompe> pastebin?
#607 [11:45] <Crimethinker> Kay. I have pretty comprehensive screenshots, so it should be no prob.
#608 [11:45] <Crimethinker> Thamks, anyway. :)
#609 [11:45] <joshft91> http://pastebin.com/
#610 [11:45] <tikker> !help
#611 [11:45] <tikker> >help
#612 [11:46] <tikker> what were those commands again
#613 [11:46] <tikker> !paid tikker
#614 [11:46] <tikker> :D
#615 [11:46] <joshft91> !paid joshft91
#616 [11:46] <Jhpompe> http://pastebin.com/ChedYD9D
#617 [11:46] <Jhpompe> there is the link
#618 [11:46] <joshft91> not myusername, though ;)
#619 [11:46] <joshft91> !paid black_pearl
#620 [11:47] <joshft91> !motd
#621 [11:47] <Crimethinker> !paid Crimethinker
#622 [11:47] <tikker> !motd
#623 [11:47] <joshft91> How's that paid check work anyway?
#624 [11:47] <Crimethinker> Just so you know, my MC username isn't Crimethinker.
#625 [11:47] <Crimethinker> I'm not really sure.
#626 [11:47] <tikker> i think it goes to that mc link
#627 [11:47] <Jhpompe> i think i know whats wrong
#628 [11:47] <Crimethinker> !paid AuBot
#629 [11:48] <oldtopman> Has notch paid?
#630 [11:48] <Crimethinker> !paid Notch
#631 [11:48] * AuBot kicked Crimethinker from #minecrafthelp (Reason: rimethinker :Notch has paid for Minecraft!)
#632 [11:48] <Jhpompe> my i was changing textures and it crashed my computer
#633 [11:48] <Sophia> xD!!
#634 [11:48] <joshft91> lol.
#635 [11:48] <Diablodoct0r> I doubt Notch has paid for Minecraft
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#637 [11:48] <Crimethinker> ?
#638 [11:48] <tikker> do the default textures work Jhpompe?
#639 [11:48] <Andrio> LOL
#640 [11:48] <Jhpompe> i can't even get IN to the game
#641 [11:48] * oldtopman baps AuBot
#641 [11:48] <Crimethinker> -_-
#642 [11:48] <oldtopman> Go back to being non-sentient
#643 [11:49] <Jhpompe> ine sec I'm going to delete my textures
#644 [11:49] <Crimethinker> I always fall for those ;).
#645 [11:49] <Diablodoct0r> !paid !paid
#646 [11:49] <Diablodoct0r> I have though
#647 [11:49] <Crimethinker> :paid Jeb
#648 [11:49] <tikker> !paid Jeb
#649 [11:49] <oldtopman> Please stop abusing the bots.
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#651 [11:49] <Kealper> !disable
#652 [11:49] <lutzee> !botspam
#653 [11:49] <Diablodoct0r> Yeah, stop abusing the bots.
#654 [11:49] <Diablodoct0r> *points fingers*
#655 [11:49] <lutzee> sigh
#656 [11:49] <Crimethinker> Sorry.
#657 [11:49] <tikker> anyway, what were those commands again for quick help
#658 [11:49] <Bmorg> what are we doing here?
#659 [11:49] <tikker> like pastebin and so
#660 [11:50] <oldtopman> tikker: We've disabled commands because people were abusing the bots.
#661 [11:50] <Kealper> Jhpompe: anywho... you're the one with the mac that posted that crash report, yes?
#662 [11:50] <Bmorg> ive been hacked!'
#663 [11:50] <Crimethinker> For my earlier problem, does anyone suggest using recovery software?
#664 [11:50] <tikker> oldtopman i know
#665 [11:50] <Jhpompe> yes kealper
#666 [11:50] <tikker> but there were commands like ??pastebin >>tikker for example
#667 [11:51] <lutzee> Bmorg, what makes you say that?
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#669 [11:51] <tikker> that would show me a message about pastebin
#670 [11:51] <Bmorg> how do i stop people hacking?
#671 [11:51] <Diablodoct0r> Take their pickaxe
#672 [11:51] <Diablodoct0r> <_<
#673 [11:51] <tikker> i have to go, dinner
#674 [11:51] <lutzee> Bmorg, what has been hacked your minecraft account?
#675 [11:51] <Crimethinker> I have no advice, besides "Lay low,".
#676 [11:51] <Bmorg> idk it says that sombody has the sa,e user name as me
#677 [11:52] <Kealper> Jhpompe: this is quite odd to see that error on a mac, usually those just...work... i'd suggest checking to make sure all your drivers and stuff are up to date first
#678 [11:52] <Kealper> ??>> tikker index
#679 [11:52] <Jhpompe> k ill see if i can get it to work
#680 [11:52] <Crimethinker> An error like that is always a pain in the ***. Especially because you can't do anything.
#681 [11:52] <tikker> tnx Kealper
#682 [11:52] <Crimethinker> @ Bmorg An error like that is always a pain in the ***. Especially because you can't do anything.
#683 [11:53] <lutzee> Bmorg, is this when signing into a server?
#684 [11:53] <Jhpompe> i tried getting a new minecraft folder and it still crashed
#685 [11:53] <Bmorg> the server i got on i lost all my valueble stuff out of my inventory and chest
#686 [11:53] <lutzee> Bmorg, i suggest you log onto minecraft.net and change your password
#687 [11:53] <Kealper> Jhpompe: the error seems to be caused because Minecraft is unable to locate (or initialize, one of the two) OpenGL
#688 [11:53] <Bmorg> ok
#689 [11:53] <Jhpompe> hmmmm
#690 [11:54] <Bmorg> that will fix it?
#691 [11:54] <Jhpompe> what will fix that
#692 [11:54] <Bmorg> the hacking?
#693 [11:54] <lutzee> Bmorg, it will give you peace of mind that no one can log into your account but you
#694 [11:54] <Kealper> Jhpompe: i have no idea.. i've never seen a mac have a problem like that before
#695 [11:54] <Jhpompe> ok ill see what i can do.......
#696 [11:54] <Crimethinker> Well, I'll be off.
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#698 [11:55] <Bmorg> but its really getting on my nerve
#699 [11:55] <Bmorg> i need some real help
#700 [11:55] <lutzee> Bmorg, there is not much we can do apart from tell you top update your details
#701 [11:56] <Bmorg> upwell only thing i know is that ive been seeing my stuff gone and someone with the same ser name
#702 [11:57] <Jhpompe> god this is annoying
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#705 [12:01] <Jhpompe> thanks for trying to help I'm going to send the crash report to Mojang and see what they can do..... Atleast i can play Minecraft on my laptop........
#706 [12:01] <Jhpompe> what the f***
#707 [12:01] <lutzee> ?
#708 [12:02] <Necrodoom> voxel is a bot
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#712 [12:04] <nibs> hello im having a problem buying minecraft
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#721 [12:10] <ShadowGamer> Hello~
#722 [12:10] <ShadowGamer> Ummm.. yeah, i think u had this question asked before.. and it's.. uuuhhm...
#723 [12:11] <ShadowGamer> The Done button kidna blocks the control options...
#724 [12:11] <lutzee> ShadowGamer, you have mods installed?
#725 [12:11] <ShadowGamer> Yes i do
#726 [12:11] <lutzee> Thought so, not much we can do about it, you could try setting the guisize to small
#727 [12:12] <ShadowGamer> ok, i try it.
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#729 [12:13] <ShadowGamer> Okay, i have removed all the mods and am trying this again with no mods. and i noticed that even without mods. it blocks the new "Command" key, so that can't be changed...
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#731 [12:14] <ShadowGamer> if there is no way to fix it by looking trough the setup, is there mabye a program/mod that can fix this?
#732 [12:15] <lutzee> ShadowGamer, hmm, it sounds like the resolution on your PC is limiting what you can actually see
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#736 [12:16] <ShadowGamer> ooh, ok. Sounds weird.. i do have max resolution. 1440 x 900. that's my screen size too....
#737 [12:17] <lutzee> I'm really unsure to be fair, it shouldn't happen
#738 [12:17] <maxbob> A server got hacked and the hackers hacked the users
#739 [12:17] <ShadowGamer> hmm ok
#740 [12:17] <ShadowGamer> Ok, i will try lowering the resolution and see what happens
#741 [12:17] <Calinou> <maxbob> A server got hacked and the hackers hacked the users
#742 [12:17] <Calinou> this can't happen
#743 [12:18] <maxbob> Well for some reasonn multiple users can't access their account
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#747 [12:19] <maxbob> Can someone help
#748 [12:20] <lutzee> Reset your password?
#749 [12:20] <maxbob> Mine thanks god didn't get hacked but others did
#750 [12:20] <lutzee> Tell them to reset your password
#751 [12:20] <lutzee> their*
#752 [12:20] <lutzee> derp
#753 [12:21] <maxbob> Who
#754 [12:21] <Calinou> change your password, yes, consider using a secure one
#755 [12:21] <maxbob> I did that
#756 [12:21] <Calinou> also don't use mods you don't trust. mods can steal your password
#757 [12:21] <Calinou> (not all of them of course)
#758 [12:22] <maxbob> Every mod and op are trusted they are all friends can a random user do that?
#759 [12:23] <ShadowGamer> If someone would whant to Hack and get their Passwords and stuff they would need to somehow get into minecraft's database or hack their way into their computers.... i guess that's it, right?
#760 [12:24] <ShadowGamer> get others passwords*
#761 [12:24] <lutzee> Correct, you'd have to bruteforce your way in unless you knew the weaknesses in the security
#762 [12:24] <ShadowGamer> I assume that anyway...
#763 [12:24] <ShadowGamer> yh
#764 [12:24] <maxbob> Probably but how do you explain that some can't access their account
#765 [12:24] <ShadowGamer> what does it say, wrong password?
#766 [12:25] <ShadowGamer> if it does, they only need to reset it =/
#767 [12:25] <maxbob> I'll ask
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#769 [12:25] <ShadowGamer> kk
#770 [12:25] <Calinou> what if their email gets hacked? :p
#771 [12:25] <Calinou> anyway: use a secure password. random.org can be a help (see password generator - generate a password of 24 chars there)
#772 [12:26] <ShadowGamer> I higly doubt they got their E-Mails hacked...
#773 [12:26] <Calinou> brute force attacks are uncommon today due to users' habits, people almost only do dictionary attacks now
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#775 [12:26] <Calinou> can happen too, though it's much rarer
#776 [12:26] <ShadowGamer> True.
#777 [12:26] <maxbob> It seems like after a restart at least one user could conect
#778 [12:26] <NathanDM> Has anyone found a way to fix the missing sounds in 1.3.1?
#779 [12:26] <ShadowGamer> Mabye they just had connection issues?
#780 [12:26] <Calinou> NathanDM, what operating system?
#781 [12:26] <Calinou> browser version or downoaded client?
#782 [12:26] <NathanDM> Win7 64bit
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#784 [12:26] <NathanDM> client
#785 [12:26] <Calinou> make sure sound is enabled? restart the game?
#786 [12:26] <maxbob> The whole server world was submerged with lava
#787 [12:27] <Calinou> try starting a new singleplayer world and see.
#788 [12:27] <NathanDM> Tried both already
#789 [12:27] <lutzee> make sure minecraft is turned up in volume mixer
#790 [12:27] <ShadowGamer> Can't help with the Lava problem, sorry.
#791 [12:27] <Calinou> you could try updating LWJGL, this might help: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#792 [12:27] <maxbob> yeah ik thanks for helping!
#793 [12:27] <Calinou> or another solution which you should try first:
#794 [12:28] <Calinou> press Windows+R then type in %appdata% - then go in .minecraft and delete the "bin" folder there
#795 [12:28] <Calinou> and start the game
#796 [12:28] <ShadowGamer> That is going to Clean your minecraft completely :)
#797 [12:28] <ShadowGamer> Should fix any probs~
#798 [12:29] <NathanDM> I erased the entire .minecraft folder before updating to 1.3.1
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#802 [12:30] <NathanDM> Well I just pressed F10 on the title screen and the sounds are working now... strange....
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#804 [12:31] <ShadowGamer> Well, i had problems that sound disapears but reapears after i let the game stay on for about 1-2 mins
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#807 [12:31] <ShadowGamer> Nothign too unusual~
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#809 [12:31] <ShadowGamer> Nothing*
#810 [12:32] <NathanDM> Oh well, it's working now... Thanks for your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ttyl
#811 [12:32] <NathanDM> Oh well, it's working now... Thanks for your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ttyl
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#813 [12:33] <ShadowGamer> *thumbs up*
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#815 [12:36] <ShadowGamer> hmm
#816 [12:36] <ShadowGamer> Choosen to try to change the controls by finding the options file and change in there....
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#819 [12:38] <carson0116> my minecraft game is experiencing problens
#820 [12:38] <carson0116> hello?
#821 [12:38] <Calinou> elaborate?
#822 [12:38] <carson0116> frezes and says minecraft is out of memory
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#825 [12:41] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#826 [12:41] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#827 [12:41] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#828 [12:41] <Calinou> carson0116, do what VoxelHead says
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#840 [12:44] <Jhpompe> i think i figured out my problem
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#843 [12:44] <ShadowGamer> [18:42] <ShadowGamer> Okay, i fixed the "Done" Button problem [18:42] == carson0116 [webchat@cpe-069-134-026-155.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 183 seconds] [18:43] <ShadowGamer> If there is ANYONE that has a problem with the "Done" Buttom being in the way. there is 1 Up to date mod that fixes that problem, here it is [18:43] <ShadowGamer> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/467504-131-macro-keybind-mod-v091-more-new-s
#844 [12:44] <Calinou> don't spam :p
#845 [12:44] <Jhpompe> http://pastebin.com/ChedYD9D
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#847 [12:44] <ShadowGamer> sorry
#848 [12:44] <Calinou> np
#849 [12:45] <Jhpompe> thats my crash lof
#850 [12:45] <Jhpompe> log*
#851 [12:45] <Necrodoom> Calinou: did you just got a netsplit?
#852 [12:45] <ShadowGamer> Anyway, hope it will mabye help someone~
#853 [12:45] <Jhpompe> i think i need to reset my PRAM/NVRAM on my mac..... No sound will come out of the speakers either.....
#854 [12:45] <Calinou> Necrodoom, nope
#855 [12:46] <Calinou> Jhpompe, O_o weird... yes, as for every problem: try rebooting
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#857 [12:46] <Jhpompe> thats what i was thinking
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#860 [12:47] <Jhpompe> i was browsing Mac forums and it said i might need to try ressetting my PRAM
#861 [12:47] <Jhpompe> ill have to try that later
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#864 [12:48] <oldtopman> Jhpompe: Resetting PRAM/NVRAM is always a good idea when you have odd bugs. Just make sure the clock gets updated after you do that.
#865 [12:48] <Jhpompe> ya thats what im going to do.
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#868 [12:49] <ShadowGamer> If anyone needs a question answered. just ask~
#869 [12:50] <ShadowGamer> Is it okay if i stay and see if i might be able to help some ppl too?
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#872 [12:50] <Diablodoct0r> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn7v-PuduR4&feature=relmfu
#873 [12:50] <Jhpompe> eww WTF bro
#874 [12:50] <Calinou> oldtopman, what's pram/nvram?
#875 [12:50] <Calinou> ShadowGamer, yes, of course
#876 [12:50] <Calinou> this is IRC :P
#877 [12:50] <ShadowGamer> ty~
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#879 [12:51] <oldtopman> Calinou: It's a mac thing. Imagine a bios that stores a lot of other settings like volume, brightness, etc.
#880 [12:51] <Jhpompe> ya
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#882 [12:51] <oldtopman> It's nothing like that.
#883 [12:51] <Boreeas> Tildes? In my #minecrafthelp?
#884 [12:51] * oldtopman calms down Boreeas
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#885 [12:52] * Jhpompe
#885 [12:52] <donosoboso> Hi, How do i go about getting a hacker banned?
#886 [12:53] * Jhpompe is very confused
#886 [12:53] <NinjaKirby> there is no spoon - the matricks
#887 [12:53] <ShadowGamer> You can Report him/her at Minecraft's homepage
#888 [12:53] <donosoboso> Okay thank you
#889 [12:53] <oldtopman> ShadowGamer: Since when did minecraft.net do anything with griefers >.>
#890 [12:53] <donosoboso> Its not a greifer
#891 [12:54] <Jhpompe> Hacker?
#892 [12:54] <ShadowGamer> make sure you type down his/her name right and make sure you tell them exacly how you know it and such. then they shoudl either look it up. or u get video/picture proof
#893 [12:54] <oldtopman> donosoboso: Are they stealing people's accounts?
#894 [12:54] <Boreeas> donosoboso: /ban <name>
#895 [12:54] <oldtopman> And are they doing it on more than one server?
#896 [12:54] <lutzee> ShadowGamer, there is no way to report a greifer/hacker to mojang,
#897 [12:54] <oldtopman> ShadowGamer: Minecraft.net doesn't do anything about griefers/hackers.
#898 [12:54] <ShadowGamer> hmm... okay..
#899 [12:54] <Jhpompe> yes there is.......
#900 [12:54] <oldtopman> ninja'd
#901 [12:55] <donosoboso> Thats stupid if they dont
#902 [12:55] <Jhpompe> time to reset PRAM bye
#903 [12:55] <ShadowGamer> Don't Mojang have their uhhh what's it called. like, oh wait
#904 [12:55] <oldtopman> Bye!
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#906 [12:55] <ShadowGamer> hmmm
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#909 [12:55] <ShadowGamer> wait i read his question wrong
#910 [12:55] <oldtopman> ShadowGamer, donosoboso, they don't do anything about griefers/hackers. Never have, unlikely that they ever will.
#911 [12:55] <ShadowGamer> hmmm, too bad... ohwell
#912 [12:55] <lutzee> They have 37million registed uses, the company consists of 25-30 people, they have no capacity to deal with it
#913 [12:55] <ShadowGamer> I KNOW!
#914 [12:56] <Necrodoom> nor they even look at support tickets
#915 [12:56] <ShadowGamer> Tell the owner of the server, and if u need. get video/picture proof.
#916 [12:56] <donosoboso> I am the owner of the server
#917 [12:56] <maxbob> Shadow the server donosoboso is talking about is the same I talked about
#918 [12:56] <lutzee> donosoboso, ban the name, if that doesn't work ban the IP
#919 [12:56] <ShadowGamer> oh, ok.
#920 [12:58] <ShadowGamer> I just tought about it, What does IRC stand for?
#921 [12:59] <lutzee> internet relay chat
#922 [12:59] <lutzee> one of the oldest forms of text chat
#923 [12:59] <ShadowGamer> oh, ok. ty~
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#926 [13:02] <ShadowGamer> There's alot of people here but not many ask for help....
#927 [13:04] <NinjaKirby> It's typical IRC busines to sit around quitely in hobby/interest related channels 24/7
#928 [13:04] <NinjaKirby> *Business
#929 [13:04] <ShadowGamer> kk~
#930 [13:04] <NinjaKirby> Wow, quietly, god damnit
#931 [13:04] <ShadowGamer> hehe~
#932 [13:04] <Boreeas> Well, there are channels with almost constant activity
#933 [13:05] <ShadowGamer> Do enjoy this so called "Old style" chat :)
#934 [13:05] <Boreeas> foonetic's #xkcd for one
#935 [13:05] <ShadowGamer> ok~
#936 [13:05] <Boreeas> But yeah, IRC is awesome
#937 [13:05] <Boreeas> (Though horribly inefficient)
#938 [13:05] <ShadowGamer> Hands up for that!
#939 [13:05] <ShadowGamer> haha~
#940 [13:05] <NinjaKirby> Most the times I read the #minecraft channel, although it's active, it tends to be about anything. This place tends to remain focused.
#941 [13:05] <ShadowGamer> ok.
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#943 [13:06] <NinjaKirby> lol, but that's just me :P Not to mention some of the chatter in #minecraft and similar make me cringe
#944 [13:06] <lutzee> #minecraft barely ever talks about minecraft, here we try keep ontopic i people need help
#945 [13:06] <ShadowGamer> kk
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#947 [13:07] <Boreeas> Except sometimes we trail off. Like now.
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#949 [13:08] <apples> i need help
#950 [13:09] <lutzee> What's the problem apples?
#951 [13:09] <ShadowGamer> Could you tell us about that problems you're experiencing?
#952 [13:09] <ShadowGamer> what*
#953 [13:09] <apples> yes are you a real person
#954 [13:09] <ShadowGamer> Yes we are~
#955 [13:09] <Boreeas> Why do you care?
#956 [13:09] <apples> please call me justin
#957 [13:09] <ShadowGamer> look, smiley ----> :)
#958 [13:09] <Boreeas> apples: /nick justin
#959 [13:09] <apples> beacause i want real help
#960 [13:10] <ShadowGamer> kk, hi Justine~
#961 [13:10] <apples> thank you
#962 [13:10] <ShadowGamer> Then we shall help.
#963 [13:10] <ShadowGamer> What is the problem?
#964 [13:10] <apples> i have a question about mincraft
#965 [13:10] <ShadowGamer> sure, ask away.
#966 [13:10] * apples is now known as :justin
#967 [13:10] <lutzee> apples, just ask your question, and be concise
#968 [13:10] <Boreeas> lutzee: On IRC, you can generally expect real people to answer. Bots will usually be marked as such
#969 [13:10] <justin> ok i think someone has an attitude though lol :)
#970 [13:11] <justin> ok i can t connect to the muinecraft servers
#971 [13:11] <Boreeas> What error message do you get?
#972 [13:11] <justin> no error messagwe but when i load the minecraft launcher it says i can play offline or i can try again
#973 [13:12] <Boreeas> Does it say "Can't connect to minecraft.net"?
#974 [13:12] <justin> uh lemmy check
#975 [13:12] <ShadowGamer> You are probably typing you're password wrong?
#976 [13:12] <ShadowGamer> Could be any of the above 2.
#977 [13:12] <justin> yes it does\
#978 [13:12] <ShadowGamer> hmm
#979 [13:12] <lutzee> justin, is the top half of the launcher grey?
#980 [13:12] <justin> uh one sec
#981 [13:13] <justin> yes it is
#982 [13:13] <Boreeas> justin: Please check if your system time is correct (Click on it, and check that the date is correct, too)
#983 [13:13] <justin> hpw
#984 [13:13] <justin> how
#985 [13:14] <Boreeas> You are using Windows, right?
#986 [13:14] <justin> yesa shir or mam
#987 [13:14] <ShadowGamer> Bottom right
#988 [13:14] <Boreeas> Then the time should be displayed in the lower right corner
#989 [13:14] <ShadowGamer> click on the clock/date
#990 [13:14] <lutzee> In the bottom right, the time is shown that matches what the time actually is where you are?
#991 [13:14] <justin> its 1 minute off
#992 [13:15] <Boreeas> That's fine
#993 [13:15] <Boreeas> Is the date correct?
#994 [13:15] <justin> thjere is no date
#995 [13:15] <Boreeas> If you click on it, it should tell you the date
#996 [13:15] <justin> im running vista
#997 [13:15] <justin> daqte is correct
#998 [13:15] <justin> are you a sir or mam
#999 [13:16] <Boreeas> Okay then. Please check if your firewall allows Java to connect.
#1000 [13:16] <justin> how
#1001 [13:16] <Boreeas> Sir would fit, but just Boreeas is fine
#1002 [13:16] <lutzee> justin, do you know what version of java you are running?
#1003 [13:16] <justin> uh idk
#1004 [13:16] <Boreeas> ??> justin java/version
#1005 [13:16] <VoxelHead> justin: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1006 [13:16] <VoxelHead> justin: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1007 [13:17] <justin> You have the recommended Java installed (Version 7 Update 5).
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#1009 [13:18] <lutzee> Thought so
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#1011 [13:18] <lutzee> justin, it is advised that you uninstall java 7 and install java6
#1012 [13:18] <Boreeas> You need to remove Java 7 and install java 6
#1013 [13:18] <lutzee> ?? java/1.6
#1014 [13:18] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1015 [13:18] <Boreeas> Go to Control Panel -> Software, look for all programs saying Java and remove them
#1016 [13:18] <justin> ??? im confused what do i do
#1017 [13:18] <Boreeas> Then go to http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp and download java 6
#1018 [13:19] <justin> first i must uistall java 7
#1019 [13:19] <justin> ok
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#1021 [13:20] <ShadowGamer> Well, i'm off to do some other things. Have a good day!-------♥♥♥
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#1027 [13:26] <justin> installed it sir
#1028 [13:27] <justin> lutzee u there??
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#1030 [13:28] <lutzee> Yes, try logging in now
#1031 [13:30] <justin> ok
#1032 [13:30] <justin> ddint work
#1033 [13:30] <xales> justin: Why didn't it?
#1034 [13:32] <xales> ._.
#1035 [13:32] <justin> how to i check
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#1037 [13:32] <lutzee> justin, is the top part of the launcher still grey?
#1038 [13:33] <justin> uh
#1039 [13:33] <justin> the vewry top? ita is red and says minecraft launcher
#1040 [13:33] <xales> justin: What happened when you tried to run it, that made you think it didn't work?
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#1044 [13:34] <lilduff90> hi
#1045 [13:34] <xales> Hello.
#1046 [13:34] <ApeXOrton> Hello
#1047 [13:34] <lilduff90> I need some help with Minecraft on Linux Mint, anyone familiar with that?
#1048 [13:34] <xales> lilduff90: Sure. What's the issue?
#1049 [13:34] <lilduff90> No clue
#1050 [13:34] <lilduff90> http://pastebin.com/nZWArBdZ
#1051 [13:35] <lilduff90> there's the error report, I'm completely new to Linux, using it as a temporary OS while waiting for a new SSD
#1052 [13:35] <justin> ok this uiis what happeded i unistalled java thenb nitsalled java 6 then i ran the laucncher and pressed login it then said cant connect to minecraft.net then above theat you can go to links for mercaendise face book and the site i clicked on the link for the site and it worked
#1053 [13:35] <tikker> justin maybe your firewall is blockingn minecraft
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#1055 [13:35] <xales> lilduff90: Okay; it looks like you have a bad GPU driver installed. It should be fairly easy to get the right one, one moment
#1056 [13:35] <xales> lilduff90: Okay; it looks like you have a bad GPU driver installed. It should be fairly easy to get the right one, one moment
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#1058 [13:36] <xales> justin: Did you install everything that said Java 7?
#1059 [13:36] <justin> how do i check
#1060 [13:36] <ApeXOrton> Hello guys, I would appriciate if I could have some help, :D The error is Failed to login: java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect when I try to login to a minecraft server or update, I Made a indepth topic here; http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1422880-failed-to-login-javanetsocketexception-permission-denied-connect-minecraft-error/#entry17294181
#1061 [13:36] <justin> i uyn iostualled all java 7 crap
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#1063 [13:36] <ApeXOrton> justin
#1064 [13:36] <justin> ya??
#1065 [13:36] <ApeXOrton> Failed to login: java.net.SocketException: Permission denied: connect is that your error?
#1066 [13:37] <lutzee> ApeXOrton, no it's not
#1067 [13:37] <justin> no
#1068 [13:37] <lutzee> justin, did you install java6?
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#1070 [13:37] <ApeXOrton> okay
#1071 [13:37] <justin> its cannot connect to minecraft.net
#1072 [13:37] <justin> yes sir
#1073 [13:37] <lilduff90> xales: Great :)
#1074 [13:37] <ApeXOrton> oh okay is your password correct and everything?
#1075 [13:37] <xales> lilduff90: Okay; there should be an "Additional Drivers" or "Hardware Drivers" option in the System menu somewhere, which you should go to; it will allow you to install the AMD/ATI drivers, or should.
#1076 [13:38] <xales> ApeXOrton: Are you running any sort of firewall or security software?
#1077 [13:38] <lilduff90> xales: Found it, trying to activate the ATI/AMD drivers now
#1078 [13:38] <justin> i thinkl szo
#1079 [13:38] <ApeXOrton> Norton, Norton parental controls, windows parental controls
#1080 [13:38] <xales> ApeXOrton: That would be the problem right there.
#1081 [13:38] <ApeXOrton> Norton would be the problem
#1082 [13:38] <xales> It's most likely "Norton parental controls"
#1083 [13:38] <xales> Yeah.
#1084 [13:39] <justin> uh i have npo parental controls
#1085 [13:39] <xales> Norton is known to break /everything/ and to be worse than the programs it claims to protect you against
#1086 [13:39] <xales> ??> justin irc/multitasking
#1087 [13:39] <VoxelHead> justin: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1088 [13:39] <justin> i have expired norton though
#1089 [13:39] <xales> justin: Uninstall it.
#1090 [13:39] <justin> ill try
#1091 [13:40] <ApeXOrton> Oh kay, but norton parental controls only have how long I can be on computer and blocks website which dont fit my age group.
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#1093 [13:40] <tikker> xales, justin well can't you just diable parental control?
#1094 [13:40] <tikker> because i have norton too
#1095 [13:40] <tikker> and it does not cause me any troubel
#1096 [13:40] <tikker> *trouble
#1097 [13:40] <ApeXOrton> I cant beacuse Im restricted user
#1098 [13:41] <xales> ApeXOrton: That's the problem.
#1099 [13:41] <ApeXOrton> My Norton subscription ends in 18 days
#1100 [13:41] <AmberK> ApeXOrton on windows?
#1101 [13:41] <xales> ApeXOrton: Are you on a school computer or something?
#1102 [13:41] <ApeXOrton> Yes
#1103 [13:41] <AmberK> there's a workaround on every restriction on wnidows :p
#1104 [13:41] <ApeXOrton> Home computer
#1105 [13:41] <xales> You could just ask your parents to disable it, because it's preventing you from playing Minecraft
#1106 [13:42] <xales> Or, ideally, remove Norton entirely and not renew it, it's a complete waste of money
#1107 [13:42] <ApeXOrton> What if I get my dad to disable the firewall on norton
#1108 [13:43] <xales> It's much more likely the parental controls that are the issue.
#1109 [13:43] <ApeXOrton> But the parental controls dont have a firewall and minecraft.net is unblocked, it used to work even when I still had them.
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#1111 [13:44] <lutzee> not everything goes through minecraft.ne
#1112 [13:44] <xales> Based on the error you are getting, the connection is being denied, which is probably because the Parental Controls don't know what the site Minecraft uses to download itself is, or have it blocked under a higher rating for some stupid reason
#1113 [13:44] <lutzee> .net*
#1114 [13:44] <tikker> lutzee is right
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#1116 [13:45] <ApeXOrton> Okay xales and everyone else, thank you very much, Im going to talk to my dad
#1117 [13:45] <apples> ok
#1118 [13:45] * apples is now known as :justin
#1119 [13:45] <justin> i uninstalled norton
#1120 [13:46] <justin> hello
#1121 [13:46] <justin> anyone??
#1122 [13:46] <xales> justin: Be patient.
#1123 [13:46] <xales> Sometimes it takes more than 20 seconds for someone to respond.
#1124 [13:46] <justin> ok sorry but i thought know one was there
#1125 [13:46] <xales> You know, perhaps they are reading something or went to the bathroom.
#1126 [13:47] <justin> but i had to reastart myt coputer go to my history toi get bacjk here
#1127 [13:47] <justin> is lutsa here
#1128 [13:47] <xales> Also, the word is "no". "know" is "something that you know" not "a lack of something"
#1129 [13:47] <xales> justin: Everyone that was here, is still here.
#1130 [13:48] <Vindictis> Our lives extend beyond here, you know.
#1131 [13:48] <justin> mine dosent till i get on mionecaaft
#1132 [13:48] <xales> justin: Well, have you tried running it again yet?
#1133 [13:49] <justin> no i wil
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#1135 [13:50] <justin> is the origannl guy i was with here
#1136 [13:51] <lutzee> justin, xales is just as capable of helping you as i am, at the moment i am busy, multitasking is not my strong point
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#1138 [13:52] <justin> omk but cxales do u know my circumstance
#1139 [13:53] <xales> justin: Yes.
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#1141 [13:53] <xales> Have you tried running Minecraft again yet...? ._.
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#1144 [13:54] <justin> i tryed it again but it no work
#1145 [13:54] <justin> s
#1146 [13:54] <PhoneAway> Mk, 1.2.5 and under works, but if I upgrade to 1.3.1, it crashes on launch
#1147 [13:55] <xales> PhoneAway: Are/were you using any mods?
#1148 [13:55] <PhoneAway> nope
#1149 [13:55] * PhoneAway is now known as :Phonebookguy
#1150 [13:55] <xales> justin: Go to Control Panel, Programs and Features, and remove every single thing that says Java. Let me know when you are done.
#1151 [13:55] <justin> ok
#1152 [13:55] <xales> Phonebookguy: Do you have a crash report or anything like that?
#1153 [13:56] <Phonebookguy> No
#1154 [13:56] <Phonebookguy> The loading bar stops
#1155 [13:56] <xales> Define "crash", then.
#1156 [13:56] <xales> Oh, okay.
#1157 [13:56] <xales> Are you using AVG, by any chance?
#1158 [13:56] <Phonebookguy> I'm not sure what AVG is, so I assume not
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#1160 [13:56] <xales> Hmm. Okay then
#1161 [13:56] <xales> I assume you are on Windows?
#1162 [13:57] <Phonebookguy> yes
#1163 [13:57] <justin> fdinished
#1164 [13:57] <xales> justin: Now, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp and click "Windows Offline" then install it.
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#1166 [13:57] <xales> Phonebookguy: Okay; follow these instructions
#1167 [13:57] <xales> ??>> Phonebookguy win/reinst
#1168 [13:58] <xales> (the bot sent them to you in a query or notice)
#1169 [13:58] <justin> ok finished
#1170 [13:58] <xales> justin: Now, try running Minecraft.
#1171 [13:58] <justin> ok
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#1173 [13:59] <justin> it say it requries java\
#1174 [13:59] <Phonebookguy> All but 'saves' deleted, trying again~~
#1175 [13:59] <Phonebookguy> Says 'Not downloaded'
#1176 [14:00] <Phonebookguy> This happens on both of my computers, which are both completely different btw
#1177 [14:00] <lutzee> Do they both use the same antivirus?
#1178 [14:00] <justin> itneeds java
#1179 [14:01] <Phonebookguy> Yes
#1180 [14:01] <lutzee> justin, did you run the program that you downloaded from the site xales linked?
#1181 [14:01] <Phonebookguy> Norton, but it has expired.
#1182 [14:01] <lutzee> the windows offline version of java6
#1183 [14:01] <justin> ???
#1184 [14:01] <justin> can you ree list that i hgave have since had to reastart myu computer
#1185 [14:01] <xales> justin: You did not follow my instructions, then.
#1186 [14:01] <justin> ph i ddid onlkline version
#1187 [14:02] <justin> i did online version
#1188 [14:02] <xales> justin: It doesn't really matter which you click on. Once it is downloaded, you have to *run* it, so that it installs.
#1189 [14:02] <Boreeas> Is your keyboard broken?
#1190 [14:02] <justin> you told me to unistall everything java
#1191 [14:02] <xales> Phonebookguy: What does it say next to "Not downloaded"? "Login Failed"? Or something else?
#1192 [14:02] <xales> justin: Yes, then I told you to go and install Java again.
#1193 [14:02] <lutzee> justin, yes, so we can get you to install a version of java that we know will work
#1194 [14:02] <Phonebookguy> not premium (was using demo)
#1195 [14:03] <justin> \ok i screed up lets move on whats next
#1196 [14:03] <Phonebookguy> I honestly prefer Classic, but i wanted to play demo for a while
#1197 [14:03] <lutzee> Phonebookguy, ahh.. the demo does not work at the moment
#1198 [14:03] <justin> ok
#1199 [14:03] <Phonebookguy> oh, what's wrong with it?
#1200 [14:03] <justin> ???
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#1202 [14:03] <lutzee> It won't download the files if you aren't premium Phonebookguy
#1203 [14:04] <lutzee> justin, you have installed the java version we pointed you too?
#1204 [14:04] <justin> okokokokokook
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#1206 [14:04] <Phonebookguy> oh ...well i cannot have fun on classic because its dead now...*cough*
#1207 [14:04] <justin> yes but i uniostalled everything java again upon xales request
#1208 [14:04] <Phonebookguy> I hope you guys fix the link, ALL traffic has stopped, servers are practically dead
#1209 [14:04] <xales> Phonebookguy: You can still play Classic if you want, but, as the site says, it's rather old/dead and has been effectively removed.
#1210 [14:05] <xales> Phonebookguy: However, the links are still on http://minecraft.net/classic just well-hidden
#1211 [14:05] <Phonebookguy> TONS of people played, it wasn't dead till you made it dead
#1212 [14:05] <xales> justin: Yes, now that you have *removed* Java, you need to *put it back* using the link we gave you.
#1213 [14:05] <xales> Phonebookguy: That's part of the reason; people shouldn't have been playing it any more. Regardless, "we" didn't do it.
#1214 [14:05] <justin> can u re give me the lin i no longer have it
#1215 [14:05] <lutzee> http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1216 [14:05] <Phonebookguy> No offense, but who are you to determine what people should be playing?
#1217 [14:05] <justin> offlline or online??
#1218 [14:06] <xales> justin: Offline.
#1219 [14:06] <justin> kk
#1220 [14:06] <xales> Phonebookguy: Well, given that Mojang owns it, they have the legal right to decide what people do with it.
#1221 [14:06] <Phonebookguy> Obviously
#1222 [14:06] <xales> You're still able to play it, they just don't want people to play something that is old and doesn't really work, because they get inundated with "halp it no werk"
#1223 [14:06] * Spudstabber is now known as :Spud|Away
#1224 [14:06] <xales> In any event, your complaining is pointless, because "we" aren't Mojang.
#1225 [14:07] <Phonebookguy> Does not work? Just wondering, have you ever played on a server running fCraft?
#1226 [14:07] <justin> if i could likme xales comment i would hashtag win
#1227 [14:07] <xales> Phonebookguy: Many people cannot get Classic to work, due to a variety of issues. If it works for you, great. It doesn't work for most people.
#1228 [14:08] <xales> justin: Uh, what?
#1229 [14:08] <Phonebookguy> Well, thank you for all, and I hope I have not offended you.
#1230 [14:08] <justin> loll do u use social networking??
#1231 [14:08] <xales> justin: No. What you said makes no sense, regardless of what I use.
#1232 [14:09] <Vindictis> justin: Yes, but I still don't think you were speaking english.
#1233 [14:09] <justin> ok it would if u did
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#1235 [14:09] <xales> justin: No, your sentence was not English. It made absolutely no sense.
#1236 [14:09] <justin> jav Ais installed
#1237 [14:09] <Phonebookguy> justin: Please try to type slowly to improve grammar.
#1238 [14:09] <xales> justin: Now, try running Minecraft again.
#1239 [14:09] <justin> phonebook guy why are u admin
#1240 [14:09] <Phonebookguy> I'm not
#1241 [14:10] <justin> ur red
#1242 [14:10] <Phonebookguy> And it's 'OP' here.
#1243 [14:10] <Phonebookguy> Red?
#1244 [14:10] <xales> ._.
#1245 [14:10] <justin> oh ok and it didnt work zales
#1246 [14:10] <lutzee> But when we have to decode what you are saying, it puts extra stain on us
#1247 [14:10] <xales> justin: When somebody says something with your name in it, it makes their name appear red so that you know they mentioned you.
#1248 [14:10] <lutzee> Phonebookguy, you pinged him, you name appears red in webchat
#1249 [14:10] <Phonebookguy> Oh.
#1250 [14:10] <Phonebookguy> I never knew that.
#1251 [14:10] <justin> oh
#1252 [14:10] <justin> lol ok that didnt woork
#1253 [14:11] <Phonebookguy> I use mIRC, maybe it's not on here?
#1254 [14:11] <xales> justin: What happens when you try to run it? If you don't tell us what error you get, we can't help you.
#1255 [14:11] <xales> Phonebookguy: mIRC is not webchat, they are rather different.
#1256 [14:11] <justin> where does it say an error
#1257 [14:11] <Phonebookguy> Divine 'webchat'
#1258 [14:11] <Phonebookguy> Difine*
#1259 [14:12] <Phonebookguy> Define**
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#1261 [14:12] <xales> justin: Okay, are you serious right now?
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#1263 [14:12] <Vindictis> Phonebookguy: http://www.esper.net/publicirc.php
#1264 [14:12] <xales> justin: When you say "doesn't work" you have to tell us *why* it doesn't work.
#1265 [14:12] <justin> im dead serious
#1266 [14:12] <justin> i havve nod idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#1267 [14:12] <xales> justin: If you aren't capable of doing some limited amount of self-helping, then we won't be able to help you.
#1268 [14:12] <Phonebookguy> Oh, yes I simply prefer to use a client.
#1269 [14:12] <xales> Phonebookguy: Most people do.
#1270 [14:13] <justin> u can help what ERROR!
#1271 [14:13] <Phonebookguy> Justin
#1272 [14:13] <xales> Phonebookguy: Actually, everyone that's ever used a real client prefers to use a real client. :p
#1273 [14:13] <lutzee> Phonebookguy, same, but the help website points to webchat as it's an easy too to use for people
#1274 [14:13] <justin> what
#1275 [14:13] <Phonebookguy> Could you paste the error page here, if there is one?
#1276 [14:13] <xales> justin: You said "it doesn't work"
#1277 [14:13] <xales> Yes?
#1278 [14:13] <Phonebookguy> lutzee: It took me some time to figure out mIRC. Glorious being less stupid.
#1279 [14:14] <justin> theres no error page i run the launcher then i hit the login button then it say where the login used to be that it can connect
#1280 [14:14] <Phonebookguy> What does it say where it is?
#1281 [14:14] <lutzee> Phonebookguy, it's why i use hexchat :p
#1282 [14:14] <xales> justin: Okay, see, that is what I have been trying to get you to tell me for the last several minutes.
#1283 [14:14] <Phonebookguy> ;)
#1284 [14:14] <xales> "Cannot connect" is the error message. .-.
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#1286 [14:14] <Vindictis> Phonebookguy: I use Xchat-2. It's simple but has a lot more features then webchat :p
#1287 [14:14] <justin> guys ive been sayin g that
#1288 [14:14] <Phonebookguy> The bad thing of mIRC is the /help. I don't like it
#1289 [14:14] <justin> it does come up ion a seperate box
#1290 [14:14] <xales> justin: You may have said that before, but you haven't said that when I asked you specifically for it.
#1291 [14:15] <xales> justin: Well, if it works on another computer, just play it on that one.
#1292 [14:15] <justin> ok
#1293 [14:15] <justin> lets go
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#1295 [14:16] <justin> i have one computer
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#1297 [14:16] <xales> justin: ...you just said..whatever.
#1298 [14:17] <xales> justin: Go to http://minecraft.net/play and try to play it there.
#1299 [14:17] <justin> idk what u measn
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#1301 [14:17] <justin> what is next
#1302 [14:17] <xales> justin: Go to http://minecraft.net/play and try to play it there.
#1303 [14:17] <Phonebookguy> -.^
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#1305 [14:17] <justin> i have used it in browser but itys laggy bad
#1306 [14:17] <justin> i have a dual core crappey 32 bvit java
#1307 [14:17] <Phonebookguy> That is your problem!
#1308 [14:18] <Phonebookguy> It works, but bad graphic card?
#1309 [14:18] <xales> justin: If it works poorly in the browser, it will work just as poorly on the downloaded client.
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#1311 [14:18] <jmburcham9> hey i just purchased minecraft and i went to download it and it is telling me the application is broken, im on a Mac OS X
#1312 [14:18] <justin> ya i hafve woone when i had to update it nividia didnt even reconize
#1313 [14:18] <Phonebookguy> Try turning fog up
#1314 [14:18] <xales> ??> jmburcham9 mac/gatekeeper
#1315 [14:18] <VoxelHead> jmburcham9: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1316 [14:18] <Phonebookguy> justin: Press 'F' several times
#1317 [14:19] <justin> ok ill try but first i wanna fix this
#1318 [14:19] <xales> Phonebookguy: That's Classic.
#1319 [14:19] <justin> i dont wanna playn on broswer
#1320 [14:19] <Phonebookguy> Oh, I forgot
#1321 [14:19] <xales> justin: Why not?
#1322 [14:19] <Phonebookguy> Esc > Options > Fog: [level]
#1323 [14:19] <justin> cuz its crappy laggy
#1324 [14:19] <Phonebookguy> -.--
#1325 [14:19] <justin> i have to refresh several times
#1326 [14:19] <Vindictis> ._.
#1327 [14:19] <xales> justin: Why do you think that playing the download will make the game any better if it's crappy?
#1328 [14:19] * Phonebookguy facepalms
#1328 [14:20] <justin> its alot less laggy out of broswerr before the update it worked fine
#1329 [14:20] <Phonebookguy> Updates can cause lag with the new features :P
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#1331 [14:21] <xales> justin: Well, we've tried to make it work, and it seems it will not work out of the browser.
#1332 [14:21] <justin> well whagt else can we do
#1333 [14:21] <Phonebookguy> Turn fog on@ it will reduce lag greatly
#1334 [14:21] <xales> At this point, you have two options: play it in the browser, or hire a local computer expert to reformat your computer so it doesn't have an absurd amount of problems.
#1335 [14:21] <justin> i just wasted a hour
#1336 [14:21] <Phonebookguy> ._.
#1337 [14:21] <justin> i have render distance on tiny
#1338 [14:22] <Phonebookguy> Try mining! it kills all the lag for me
#1339 [14:22] <Phonebookguy> Go to bedrock
#1340 [14:22] <justin> screw this
#1341 [14:22] <Phonebookguy> ...
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#1343 [14:22] <xales> *sigh*
#1344 [14:22] <Vindictis> What a waste of time
#1345 [14:22] <Vindictis> lol
#1346 [14:22] <xales> yeah.
#1347 [14:22] <xales> solution:
#1348 [14:22] <Phonebookguy> .
#1349 [14:23] <xales> next time it's "your computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements go away" >_>
#1350 [14:23] <Phonebookguy> What is +b? I have not looked into all the modes
#1351 [14:23] <xales> Phonebookguy: ban
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#1353 [14:23] <Phonebookguy> oh lol
#1354 [14:23] <xales> Phonebookguy: also, for better help, try "/quote help"
#1355 [14:23] <xales> Phonebookguy: it runs the server's help command, which is specific to the network you are on
#1356 [14:23] <xales> it won't list every command you have, because it doesn't know about the convenience commands mIRC has
#1357 [14:23] <Phonebookguy> Thanks, that;s what I'm used to ;)
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#1359 [14:24] <xales> but it will give you things like the list of the channel modes for the network (/quote help cmodes)
#1360 [14:24] <xales> err, cmode, not cmodes
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#1380 [14:52] <BrandMuffins> any time when i start minecraft it says Application needs Java runtime enviroment 1.5.0 needed WHAT do i DO???
#1381 [14:52] <Morrolan> Do you know how to open a command prompt?
#1382 [14:52] <BrandMuffins> no sorry
#1383 [14:52] <Morrolan> Windows?
#1384 [14:52] <BrandMuffins> yea
#1385 [14:53] <lutzee> ?? java/version
#1386 [14:53] <VoxelHead> java/version: You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#1387 [14:53] <Morrolan> Press win+r, in the field which shows up type in "cmd.exe" (no quotes), hit enter.
#1388 [14:53] <VoxelHead> java/version: http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#1389 [14:53] <lutzee> That would be easier for getting java version
#1390 [14:53] <Morrolan> True.
#1391 [14:53] <Morrolan> Could also try that website first.
#1392 [14:53] <BrandMuffins> ok i opened cmd now what
#1393 [14:54] <Morrolan> Okay, since you're there already, type in "java -version" (again, no quotes), hit enter.
#1394 [14:54] <Morrolan> What does the output say?
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#1396 [14:55] <BrandMuffins> java is not a reckonigable program
#1397 [14:55] <BrandMuffins> or internal and external command
#1398 [14:55] <Kanegasi> you have no java installed at all, i do believe
#1399 [14:55] <Phonebookguy> java -version
#1400 [14:55] <Phonebookguy> ^
#1401 [14:55] <Morrolan> What operating system are you running? Windows XP, Vista, 7?
#1402 [14:55] <BrandMuffins> windows x
#1403 [14:55] <BrandMuffins> pxp
#1404 [14:55] <BrandMuffins> xp
#1405 [14:56] <Kanegasi> 32bit? 64bit?
#1406 [14:56] <KingOfChaos> hi, why is the clock by The Walls not working? it stocks at 14:59
#1407 [14:56] <BrandMuffins> 32
#1408 [14:56] <Morrolan> ?? java/1.6
#1409 [14:56] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1410 [14:56] <Morrolan> BrandMuffins - Grab Java 6 from the link VoxelHead gave you.
#1411 [14:56] <BrandMuffins> oki
#1412 [14:56] <BrandMuffins> online or offline?
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#1414 [14:57] <Morrolan> Doesn't matter, as long as you have an internet connection.
#1415 [14:57] <BrandMuffins> ok
#1416 [14:57] <BrandMuffins> so from here i just install java?
#1417 [14:57] <xales> Indeed
#1418 [14:57] <BrandMuffins> oki
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#1420 [14:58] <BrandMuffins> i got error 1500 another installtion is in progress what does that mean?
#1421 [14:58] <BrandMuffins> i got error 1500 another installtion is in progress what does that mean?
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#1423 [14:58] <xales> It means you have some other installation running, possibly automatic updates.
#1424 [14:59] <BrandMuffins> and how to i stop auto updates or whatever it is
#1425 [14:59] <xales> Uh, well, if they are in the middle of installing, you should let them finish
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#1427 [14:59] <Kanegasi> try installing the java again in another minute or so
#1428 [14:59] <BrandMuffins> well i dont think i have anything installing...
#1429 [15:00] <xales> If it doesn't work in about 5 minutes, then restart your computer and run the Java installer again
#1430 [15:00] <BrandMuffins> oki
#1431 [15:01] <Kanegasi> random topic, but does anyone else suffer from multiplayer sound lag? just curious, since i found a mod that attempts to fix it and does a decent job
#1432 [15:01] <Kanegasi> i was wondering how widespread the issue was
#1433 [15:01] <xales> Kanegasi: I've not heard of that issue personally
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#1435 [15:01] <lutzee> And i don't use the sounds
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#1437 [15:02] <Morrolan> Kanegasi - I've been getting that pretty often since 1.3.1
#1438 [15:02] <Kanegasi> apparently some people experience sound lag where placing something or even footsteps create sounds up to a second or so after it happens, even on a good connection
#1439 [15:02] <Morrolan> Then again, since 1.3.1 the whole server is laggy often.
#1440 [15:02] <Flibberdee> I installed the new tekkit on my server and in my client. Now I do not seem to be able to place slabs at the top of blocks when placing them. I can only put them at the bottom. When I started using the mod it removed some of my slabs and now I cant fix my structures do to this anyone have any suggestions?
#1441 [15:03] <Morrolan> Ask Tekkit's author about it.
#1442 [15:03] <Morrolan> Most people in here aren't terribly familiar with mods. :)
#1443 [15:03] <Kanegasi> i believe tekkit's channel is on this server actually
#1444 [15:03] <Flibberdee> ok
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#1446 [15:03] <lutzee> Tekkit isn't 1.3 so it wont...
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#1448 [15:04] <Kanegasi> the threads i read said that because of the ssp-smp merge, many things including sound handling is now server side, which may cause the lag in some people
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#1450 [15:05] <Kanegasi> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1414774-131smp-nosoundlag/ if you guys were interested in trying it out. this isnt an ad and i dont own the mod, just some random help
#1451 [15:05] <xales> Kanegasi: Thanks, haven't had anyone asking about that yet I think, but if anyone does it'll be helpful
#1452 [15:06] <xales> at least, not that I've seen asking anyway
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#1454 [15:06] <lutzee> It's probably base class editing, so i can't even if i wanted
#1455 [15:06] <zcampbell1cam> is minecraft payment service secure
#1456 [15:06] <Kanegasi> :) it works for me although footsteps become weird, but item placement syncs
#1457 [15:06] <xales> zcampbell1cam: Yes.
#1458 [15:06] <Kanegasi> yes
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#1460 [15:06] <xales> zcampbell1cam: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/463704-payment-is-not-using-https
#1461 [15:07] <BrandMuffins> Ok it says this soft ware is already installed on your computer would you like to reinstall it
#1462 [15:07] <xales> BrandMuffins: Say yes.
#1463 [15:07] <BrandMuffins> ok
#1464 [15:07] <zcampbell1cam> what is the support number
#1465 [15:08] <Kanegasi> ?
#1466 [15:08] <zcampbell1cam> if the is one
#1467 [15:08] <xales> zcampbell1cam: There is no support number.
#1468 [15:08] <xales> zcampbell1cam: What do you need help with?
#1469 [15:08] <zcampbell1cam> everytime i pick paypall it comes up in euros
#1470 [15:09] <Kanegasi> paypal will automatically convert
#1471 [15:09] <xales> zcampbell1cam: On the "confirm payment" page it will show the conversion to your local currency.
#1472 [15:09] <Kanegasi> the game's creators are based out of sweden
#1473 [15:09] <xales> It doesn't know what your local currency is until you actually provide payment information.
#1474 [15:09] <Morrolan> Or just convert that online.
#1475 [15:09] <BrandMuffins> im having the same error 1500 im going to restart my computer
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#1477 [15:10] <lutzee> zcampbell1cam, currently €20 is about $25 USD
#1478 [15:11] <lutzee> a little less
#1479 [15:11] <zcampbell1cam> how do i get confirmed payment
#1480 [15:11] <xales> zcampbell1cam: Go to Paypal, put in your payment information, and click "Submit" or "Next" or whatever
#1481 [15:11] <Kanegasi> paypal will send you a receipt in the mail, and after payment, the page will send you back to minecraft.net
#1482 [15:11] <Kanegasi> *email
#1483 [15:11] <xales> It will show you "you are about to be charged (whatever)" and "Send money" or whatever
#1484 [15:12] <zcampbell1cam> when i pay for do i get minecraft right away
#1485 [15:12] <Kanegasi> yes
#1486 [15:12] <Kanegasi> its all digital. the payment will be recorded on your minecraft.net account and you simply log into the client with that account
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#1488 [15:13] <Kanegasi> ill take that as "i logged in and can play"
#1489 [15:14] <BrandMuffins> am i supposed to restart my computer if i get the same error?
#1490 [15:14] <Kanegasi> yes
#1491 [15:14] <Kanegasi> i thought you went to do that already
#1492 [15:14] <BrandMuffins> oki
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#1495 [15:15] <Kanegasi> welcome!
#1496 [15:16] <Zimmy> Heyo everyone o/
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#1498 [15:18] <Zimmy> I was trying to get modloader and a few mods (such as biosphere) to work, followed the instructions to no avail. Not sure if it matters that I'm using a batch file to launch, setting the appdata to a different location (copy/pasted a second version to not ruin the original). Um... any ideas why it would launch as vanillia and ignore the mods?
#1499 [15:18] <Kanegasi> lutzee: i missed that when you said it. whats wrong with base class editing?
#1500 [15:18] <lutzee> Kanegasi, i already have a massive baseclass editing API installed, conflicts would occur
#1501 [15:18] <xales> Zimmy: You could try asking in #risucraft or #direwolf20 - we can't really support mods here, unfortunately
#1502 [15:18] <Kanegasi> zimmy: i suggest using magiclauncher. just load mods into it and start
#1503 [15:19] <xales> And that ^
#1504 [15:19] <Zimmy> Okies, thanks ^^
#1505 [15:19] <Kanegasi> that sounds neat lutzee
#1506 [15:19] <Kanegasi> so even editing one class file that no other mods touch would screw up everything?
#1507 [15:20] <lutzee> Kanegasi, no that would be fine, but this API touches the sound code, i know that for sure
#1508 [15:20] <Kanegasi> ahh
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#1510 [15:24] <BrandMuffins> Yea i restarted my computer and theres a screen saying Java setup - Progress and theres a green bar showing the progress
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#1515 [15:26] <medfly> hi, I have lag issues with minecraft.
#1516 [15:27] <medfly> I need help finding the cause and fixing it.
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#1518 [15:27] <Alexiy_Orlov> y
#1519 [15:27] <Phonebookguy> Bad video card
#1520 [15:27] <medfly> lol
#1521 [15:27] <lutzee> medfly, do you know your PC specs?
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#1523 [15:28] <Kanegasi> medfly: what else is your computer running? what is your processor? how much ram do you have? are you single player or in a server? what mods are you using?
#1524 [15:29] <Kanegasi> also, what is your video card, as phonebookguy pointed out
#1525 [15:29] <medfly> lutzee: yes. I have a intel i3 M 370 cpu @ 2.4ghz. I have a 4gb ram. ATI HD 5430 graphics card.
#1526 [15:29] <lutzee> hmm
#1527 [15:29] <medfly> I have no problems playing singleplayer
#1528 [15:30] <xales> medfly: You only have lag on multiplayer?
#1529 [15:30] <lutzee> ohh, sounds like slow internet
#1530 [15:30] <Kanegasi> speedtest.net
#1531 [15:30] <Kanegasi> if you know the location of the server, try testing from a server near there
#1532 [15:31] <medfly> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2117695135.png - is that sufficient for running minecraft as a client online?
#1533 [15:32] <medfly> and yes that is a nearby server to the person hosting. my friend is hosting the server
#1534 [15:32] <medfly> it could be a problem on his end as well.
#1535 [15:32] <lutzee> thats a really bad ping :| but otherwise it should be okay as long as no one else is on the internet
#1536 [15:33] <Kanegasi> that is a barely workable connection, and to add to it, its a server hosted on a personal computer
#1537 [15:33] <xales> medfly: It's much more likely that the problem is your friend's server or network connection.
#1538 [15:33] <Kanegasi> the best you can hope for is make sure both of you arent downloading anything
#1539 [15:33] <medfly> I will ask him to run speedtest as well (I have, he just takes long to find my country on the map :D)
#1540 [15:33] <medfly> using the speedtest map
#1541 [15:34] <Kanegasi> you can also see if your friend will up the process priority of the server
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#1543 [15:34] <Kanegasi> just one level, dont ever switch a process to realtime
#1544 [15:35] <medfly> this is his speedtest result
#1545 [15:35] <medfly> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2117700255.png
#1546 [15:35] <xales> That's far too slow to run a Minecraft server on,.
#1547 [15:35] <Kanegasi> wow, i just noticed the 5000 miles on that when you said country
#1548 [15:35] <medfly> :)
#1549 [15:35] <medfly> for just two players though. me and him
#1550 [15:35] <Kanegasi> the connection and lag you have may just be the best you will ever get, no offense
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#1554 [15:36] <medfly> do you guys reckon that if I ran the server on a more dedicated server with better upload, there will be fewer probems?
#1555 [15:36] <medfly> or the ping is pretty much going to kill us
#1556 [15:37] <Kanegasi> if one of you can obtain a professional server for cheap, that may help
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#1559 [15:39] <xales> medfly: The problem looks to be most likely the upload speed and the ping
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#1562 [15:41] <koolady2003> hi. when i right-click the mouse, the following slant symbol displays on the chat line " / ". i am no longer able to remove blocks in any mode. please advise.
#1563 [15:42] <lutzee> koolady2003, you have set the controls to open the chatline with / when you click the mouse
#1564 [15:42] <lutzee> go into the control options and change it back
#1565 [15:42] <koolady2003> how do i do that, im nine years old
#1566 [15:43] <medfly> we should search for a server halfway and see if that is better
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#1568 [15:43] <xales> ??> koolady2003 win/reinst
#1569 [15:43] <VoxelHead> koolady2003: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1570 [15:43] <VoxelHead> koolady2003: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1571 [15:43] <lutzee> I guess that works too....
#1572 [15:43] <medfly> if that's the ultimate solution then we should throw money at thecomputer until he has a better upload rate. or a server.
#1573 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> Throwing money at the computer will do nothing if its network connection is the bottleneck.
#1574 [15:44] <xales> medfly: Usually better to get a proper server, and much cheaper
#1575 [15:44] <koolady2003> my mom will help me, thanks!
#1576 [15:44] <katie_> Minecraft won't even download on my computer (Mac), when I click to download, it goes straight to the trash
#1577 [15:44] <DopeGhoti> ??> katie_ mac/gatekeeper
#1578 [15:44] <VoxelHead> katie_: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1579 [15:45] <katie_> Thank you
#1580 [15:45] <DopeGhoti> My pleasure.
#1581 [15:46] <katie_> Still went straight to trash
#1582 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> That's odd.
#1583 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> how exactly are you trying to download the program?
#1584 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> Did you accidentally set your download location _to_ the Trash?
#1585 [15:46] <medfly> xales: yeah.
#1586 [15:46] <medfly> xales: we might do that. but first test if that is a solution
#1587 [15:46] <DopeGhoti> You could just move it out of the Trash to where you want it to be (e. g. ~/Applications)
#1588 [15:46] <katie_> minecraft.net, download, click on minecraft.zip for mac
#1589 [15:46] <katie_> and I have
#1590 [15:47] <katie_> Now it works... weird, okay I guess we found a solution, thanks
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#1602 [16:02] <habedi> hi
#1603 [16:02] <Kanegasi> i find koolady2003 interesting. that was pretty solid grammar for a 9 year old. "please advise"
#1604 [16:02] <Kanegasi> hello
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#1608 [16:03] <RnRVeritas> hey im having a crash issue can anyone help me i have the thing up
#1609 [16:04] <lutzee> When exactly does the game crash?
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#1611 [16:04] <Kanegasi> copy everything in that crash message and paste it at pastebin.com
#1612 [16:04] <Kanegasi> then post that link here
#1613 [16:04] <habedi> dose anyone know were can i suggest new feature for minecraft update?
#1614 [16:04] <RnRVeritas> well i playing for awhile but now when i load up i delted the client but still doing it and roger that
#1615 [16:05] <bug> my brother has an acount and so do i it was donload it on his and i can't login
#1616 [16:05] <Kanegasi> habedi: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/1-suggestions/
#1617 [16:05] <ScoMo> Hey, whenever I try to open up the Minecraft launcher I get an error message saying 'The registry refers to a nonexistent Java Runtime Environment installation or the runtime is corrupted. The system cannot find the path specified.' What do?
#1618 [16:05] <xales> ??> ScoMo javara
#1619 [16:05] <habedi> thanks
#1620 [16:05] <xales> wat
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#1622 [16:05] <xales> ScoMo: One second
#1623 [16:05] <xales> oh
#1624 [16:05] <xales> ??> ScoMo win/javara
#1625 [16:05] <VoxelHead> ScoMo: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#1626 [16:05] <VoxelHead> ScoMo: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
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#1628 [16:06] <ScoMo> ah, right, thanks :)
#1629 [16:06] <xales> ScoMo: Using Javara, have it remove all Java installations and then install the latest Java
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#1631 [16:06] <RnRVeritas> i posted it with my username same as here
#1632 [16:06] <xales> (ideally latest Java 6 if it gives you that option, Java 7 often doesn't work)
#1633 [16:06] <xales> RnRVeritas: You have to give us the link to it.
#1634 [16:07] <RnRVeritas> sorry usally used to trouble shooting myself this is beyone me haha here it is http://pastebin.com/fcMm8SQ6
#1635 [16:07] <Kanegasi> i found it just as you posted that
#1636 [16:07] <Kanegasi> i looked through the recent list lol
#1637 [16:07] <xales> RnRVeritas: Are you using any mods or any such things, or were you ever?
#1638 [16:07] <RnRVeritas> =P haha
#1639 [16:08] <RnRVeritas> i had txt packs but i got rid of them started fresh and it poped up again the server im using has a builtin texture pack when i go on could that be it
#1640 [16:09] <lutzee> asu= NetClientHandler,
#1641 [16:09] <Kanegasi> is your minecraft completely clean, like through force update?
#1642 [16:09] <xales> lutzee: What's ee?
#1643 [16:09] <RnRVeritas> yes i when threw it %appdata% and deleted the whole folder started fresh
#1644 [16:09] <lutzee> ee = Packet53BlockChange
#1645 [16:09] <lutzee> So something is crashing when a block is changed
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#1647 [16:10] <lutzee> maybe because it's pointing to a block that does not exist
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#1649 [16:10] <Kanegasi> the server you are running may have a custom texture pack, but does it require any mods on your end?
#1650 [16:10] <RnRVeritas> no it dosnt just Mc mmo
#1651 [16:10] <lutzee> ee.a isn't returning a method..
#1652 [16:10] <Kanegasi> it may be sending you data for a block added by a mod
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#1654 [16:11] <lutzee> ahh....
#1655 [16:11] <lutzee> bukkit...
#1656 [16:11] <lutzee> RnRVeritas, are there any errors in the server console or is ti not your server?
#1657 [16:11] <RnRVeritas> Craftbukkit new beta version no deffs not one of the official servers
#1658 [16:12] <RnRVeritas> so its there end not mine
#1659 [16:12] <Kanegasi> i do believe that requires a client counterpart in order to play on the server with it installed
#1660 [16:12] <lutzee> Probably the server is sending data that the client can't deal with
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#1663 [16:13] <RnRVeritas> hmm im gunna try and reload
#1664 [16:14] <RnRVeritas> well seems find now thanks guys!
#1665 [16:15] <DVNN> emm next problem?
#1666 [16:15] <Kanegasi> shoot
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#1668 [16:16] <DVNN> ok i just got minecraft yesterday but i havent been able to get it to work. i keep getting an error to do with minidumps ore something
#1669 [16:17] <xales> DVNN: What's the error, specifically? If it's longer than one or two lines, paste it on http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link
#1670 [16:17] <Kanegasi> the game turns into a blue border with a white box and text?
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#1672 [16:18] <DVNN> http://pastebin.com/6cXUFH6C
#1673 [16:18] <lutzee> No, the virtual machine crashed and dumped to a file
#1674 [16:19] <DVNN> no it just dosent start
#1675 [16:19] <lutzee> DVNN looks like you need to update your graphics grivers
#1676 [16:19] <lutzee> ??> DVNN gpu/amd
#1677 [16:19] <VoxelHead> DVNN: (gpu/amd) You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) video cards here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
#1678 [16:20] <DVNN> ive tried but it didnt seem to work. its an intel graphics card
#1679 [16:20] <Kanegasi> integrated graphics?
#1680 [16:21] <lutzee> DVNN, er that file is saying you are using an ATI graphics driver
#1681 [16:21] <medfly> sigh
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#1683 [16:21] <lutzee> ??> DVNN win/dxdiag
#1684 [16:21] <VoxelHead> DVNN: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1685 [16:21] <VoxelHead> DVNN: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1687 [16:22] <Kanegasi> i see the confusion. his cpu is intel
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#1689 [16:24] <Kanegasi> i havent heard of the win+r command, so i tried it and got confused that nothing happened... until i remembered i disabled my win key... derp
#1690 [16:24] <DVNN> http://pastebin.com/dpiHNbmc
#1691 [16:25] <xales> DVNN: Ah
#1692 [16:25] <Kanegasi> huh... intel graphics
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#1694 [16:25] <lutzee> ahhh
#1695 [16:25] <xales> DVNN: That's a problem specific to your model of laptop
#1696 [16:25] <xales> one moment
#1697 [16:25] <lutzee> ?? c660
#1698 [16:25] <VoxelHead> c660: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#1699 [16:25] <xales> Yeah, that.
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#1703 [16:27] <DVNN> well its downloading...
#1704 [16:28] <Kanegasi> any luck brandmuffins?
#1705 [16:28] <BrandMuffins> Hello, when i try installing java it just freezes with one bar left...
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#1707 [16:28] <BrandMuffins> Any Suggestions?
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#1709 [16:29] <xales> BrandMuffins: Use the "Offline Installer"
#1710 [16:29] <BrandMuffins> oki
#1711 [16:29] <BrandMuffins> oki
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#1713 [16:29] <BrandMuffins> you got a link to the download?
#1714 [16:30] <BrandMuffins> wait i got it
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#1716 [16:31] <BrandMuffins> im just wandering what do i do after i install java?
#1717 [16:32] <xales> BrandMuffins: You should be able to play Minecraft after that
#1718 [16:32] <BrandMuffins> Oh ok
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#1721 [16:35] <h> Hello! I generated a custom map that isn't flagged populated. I seem to not find an NPC village around the coordinates I found one in both superflat and default with the same seed. What could be the issue?
#1722 [16:35] <h> Yes, it is a biome that villages can spawn in.
#1723 [16:36] <xales> h: Villages use a different, always-random seed, I believe
#1724 [16:37] <BrandMuffins> Ithat method of finding npc villages is outdated since 1.3.1 now i triead it and it didnt work
#1725 [16:37] <h> Nay. I have reproduced village spawning in the other modes.
#1726 [16:37] <h> Maybe it's because I'm above 128?
#1727 [16:37] <BrandMuffins> Maybe??
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#1731 [16:39] <zcampbell1cam> i just bought minecraft and tried to download and said fatial exception ouccerud
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#1734 [16:41] <zcampbell1cam> i just bought minecraft and tried to download and said fatial exception ouccerud
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#1736 [16:41] <zcampbell1cam> i just bought minecraft and tried to download and said fatial exception ouccerud
#1737 [16:42] <zcampbell1cam> i just bought minecraft and tried to download and said fatial exception ouccerud
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#1739 [16:42] <xales> ??> zcampbell1cam dont/repeat
#1740 [16:42] <VoxelHead> zcampbell1cam: (dont/repeat) There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. Messages do not 'expire' and unless there is a lot of conversation, your message is not going anywhere.
#1741 [16:42] <VoxelHead> zcampbell1cam: (dont/repeat) Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
#1742 [16:42] <xales> zcampbell1cam: Are you on a Mac?
#1743 [16:42] <ash> Last night I tried buying Minecraft for my PC and my transaction said it failed, but then I went back to the page and it said I paid. I go to my profile page and it says i didnt pay. I also received a payment code
#1744 [16:42] <zcampbell1cam> laptop not mac
#1745 [16:43] <ash> I really want to play
#1746 [16:43] <ash> What do I do to fix this?
#1747 [16:43] <lutzee> ash, check with your bank, chances are the transaction did infact fail
#1748 [16:44] <ash> I have, I have enough money in the account, and the same thing happened to my boyfriend
#1749 [16:44] <zcampbell1cam> what do i do with order code
#1750 [16:44] <zcampbell1cam> and it said could not load shock wave flash
#1751 [16:45] <xales> ??> zcampbell1cam win/reinst
#1752 [16:45] <VoxelHead> zcampbell1cam: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1753 [16:45] <VoxelHead> zcampbell1cam: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#1755 [16:46] <ash> Should I retry buying it? I'm just nervous that I'll be charged a lot of money for buying it so much
#1756 [16:46] <xales> ash: If it said it failed, then there was no charge.
#1757 [16:46] <xales> There's a bug where if it fails, it will still send you back to minecraft.net, which just automatically assumes it worked.
#1758 [16:46] <xales> Also, do you happen to be trying to buy it with a prepaid/"gift" card?
#1759 [16:47] <ash> No I'm paying with a debit card.
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#1762 [16:47] <ash> So what if I try again and it doesn't work?
#1763 [16:47] <xales> ash: Okay, the problem is usually that your bank is denying the transaction due to the high risk of fraud.
#1764 [16:47] * zzzz evil laugh
#1764 [16:47] <zzzz> you all thought you were rid of me!
#1765 [16:47] <xales> Buying Minecraft is considered an international transaction, because Mojang/Minecraft is based in Sweden.
#1766 [16:47] <lutzee> zzzz that is easily solved
#1767 [16:48] <xales> Often, with debit cards, international purchases are declined automatically.
#1768 [16:48] <zzzz> :o
#1769 [16:48] <xales> You'd have to call your bank and get them to allow the transaction
#1770 [16:48] <zzzz> i thought they had middlemen in the US?
#1771 [16:48] <ash> so how can I buy it
#1772 [16:48] <zzzz> which is why you cant buy it in illinois?
#1773 [16:48] <xales> ash: As I just said, you'd have to call your bank and ask them to allow it.
#1774 [16:49] <xales> Alternatively, if you have a credit card, you could try using that.
#1775 [16:49] <zzzz> obviously the only solution is to fly to sweden and present the cash to buy it in person
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#1777 [16:49] <xales> Typically, they aren't restricted the same way.
#1778 [16:49] <ash> what if i tried paying with paypal
#1779 [16:49] <BrandMuffins> umm when i tried Offline java it keeps freezing with one bar left.....
#1780 [16:50] <xales> ash: You could try that, but it will probably still not work.
#1781 [16:50] <ash> ok. thank you
#1782 [16:50] <xales> BrandMuffins: Does it say, under the bar, "Java, running on over (some number) devices" in a red box thing?
#1783 [16:50] <BrandMuffins> YEA
#1784 [16:50] <xales> Okay.
#1785 [16:50] <BrandMuffins> it does, "java running on over 3 million devices"
#1786 [16:51] <xales> Cancel the install.
#1787 [16:51] <xales> Let me know when it's done canceling or whatever.
#1788 [16:51] <BrandMuffins> oki
#1789 [16:52] <xales> Is it done?
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#1791 [16:53] <BrandMuffins> no not yet
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#1793 [16:53] <zzzz> just curious, what brand are your muffins?
#1794 [16:53] <BrandMuffins> ittl take a little while
#1795 [16:53] <DVNN> emm another problem... i cant find the file when i try to install the driver
#1796 [16:54] <BrandMuffins> OH its done
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#1798 [16:54] <BrandMuffins> its Done cancelling so now what>
#1799 [16:54] <xales> DVNN: You have to extract the .zip file somewhere, the file is one of the ones you extracted.
#1800 [16:54] <emo1guy> why have i been reset on the leaderboards of the xbox 360 edition?
#1801 [16:55] <xales> emo1guy: Probably because the leaderboards reset occasionally.
#1802 [16:55] <DopeGhoti> That's what leaderboards do.
#1803 [16:55] <DVNN> ahhh
#1804 [16:55] <emo1guy> no one else has been reset tho everyone is still the same
#1805 [16:55] <lutzee> emo1guy, we can't answer 360 questions, i believe there was a twitter account that offers very good support, er one second
#1806 [16:56] <xales> BrandMuffins: Okay; now, go to Control Panel, and Programs and Features (or Add and Remove Programs if you are on XP) and remove everything that says Java.
#1807 [16:56] <BrandMuffins> ok
#1808 [16:56] <BrandMuffins> and yes im on Xp
#1809 [16:56] <emo1guy> its really annoyed me i was first in the world for everything on hard difficulty now im like 2394856 in the world for everything
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#1812 [16:57] <BrandMuffins> It says: another installation is in progress\
#1813 [16:58] <xales> BrandMuffins: Restart your computer then
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#1815 [16:58] <zzzz> emo1guy, its not like anyone looks at those anywa
#1816 [16:58] <zzzz> ohai smanly
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#1818 [16:58] <emo1guy> everyone on my friends list does and i had a 100 bet riding on staying first for a week
#1819 [16:58] <ShamenMaster> i need help
#1820 [16:59] <ShamenMaster> can anyone plz help me?
#1821 [16:59] <xales> ShamenMaster: Well, obviously, why else would you be here?
#1822 [17:00] <xales> ShamenMaster: Perhaps, if you tell us what you need help with, someone could actually help you.
#1823 [17:00] <ShamenMaster> uh ok
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#1825 [17:00] <ShamenMaster> well my wom stopped working out of nowhere
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#1827 [17:00] <lutzee> wom?
#1828 [17:01] <ShamenMaster> yes
#1829 [17:01] <xales> We can't provide support for third-party software. You could try going to the WoM website, or perhaps their channel here, #wom which you can get to with "/join #wom"
#1830 [17:01] <Kanegasi> what is WoM?
#1831 [17:01] <ShamenMaster> im on the website
#1832 [17:01] <ShamenMaster> for some reason im banned from #wom
#1833 [17:01] <Smanly> Ohai zzzz
#1834 [17:02] <xales> ShamenMaster: Then ask on the website/forum or whatever
#1835 [17:02] <lutzee> you hostmask was banned in there 6 days ago
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#1837 [17:03] <ShamenMaster> ok ty
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#1839 [17:03] <emo1guy> "/join#wom"
#1840 [17:03] <emo1guy> not working
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#1842 [17:03] <lutzee> emo1guy, that was not for you anyway
#1843 [17:03] <Boreeas> emo1guy: Space between join and #wom
#1844 [17:03] <xales> Boreeas: no point :p
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#1846 [17:04] <emo1guy> oh ok
#1847 [17:04] <zzzz> like a sir
#1848 [17:04] <Boreeas> xales: I don't care :P
#1849 [17:04] <xales> ._.
#1850 [17:04] <zzzz> so, whats everyone think of the newest wikileaks shenaningans?
#1851 [17:04] <Boreeas> Wikileaks is still a thing?
#1852 [17:04] <zzzz> well, technically at the moment no
#1853 [17:04] <zzzz> they've been being hit by about 40gb/s ddos for the last few days
#1854 [17:04] <DVNN> thanks a mill guys!!!! after two days of panic it finally works :L
#1855 [17:05] <Kanegasi> grats!
#1856 [17:05] <Kanegasi> silly toshiba
#1857 [17:05] <lutzee> zzzz who's doing that? o.o
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#1859 [17:06] <zzzz> their last release made some very, very powerful people very angry
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#1861 [17:06] <xales> lutzee: The US government :p
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#1864 [17:06] <Kanegasi> serves them right. some of wikileaks' activity is shady at best, but they try to be the good guy and unravel corporate crap
#1865 [17:07] <Kanegasi> serves the angry party right
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#1867 [17:08] <emo1guy> damn leaderboards gonna lose a hundred pounds now :(
#1868 [17:08] <xales> emo1guy: you could also just tell them it reset and thus invalidates your bet :p
#1869 [17:09] <DopeGhoti> emo1guy: placing bets based on a non-gauranteed third party's service? That'd be your first mistake.
#1870 [17:09] <xales> ^
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#1872 [17:10] <emo1guy> there all trying to do the same thing and if there still on the leaderboards and im the only one in the world that seems to be reset im not happy with this at all
#1873 [17:10] <zzzz> well, then i'd get to work :D
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#1877 [17:14] <BrandMuffins> So xales im supposed to delete everything with java in its name??
#1878 [17:14] <BrandMuffins> So xales im supposed to delete everything with java in its name??
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#1880 [17:15] <xales> BrandMuffins: Uninstall it, yes.
#1881 [17:15] <xales> From "
#1882 [17:15] <xales> "Add & Remove Programs"
#1883 [17:15] <BrandMuffins> oki
#1884 [17:15] <Kanegasi> let me guess, you hit enter while hitting "... every damn time
#1885 [17:16] <xales> Kanegasi: I do it semifrequently
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#1887 [17:16] <Kanegasi> thats why i usually dont bother with punctuation, unless its absolutely needed
#1888 [17:17] <BrandMuffins> sigh i got error 1704 an installination for javaTM 6 update 33 is susspended would you like to undo changes
#1889 [17:17] <BrandMuffins> Do i hit yes?
#1890 [17:17] <BrandMuffins> ?
#1891 [17:17] <BrandMuffins> ?
#1892 [17:17] <BrandMuffins> woops
#1893 [17:17] <xales> BrandMuffins: Say yes.
#1894 [17:18] <BrandMuffins> ok
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#1896 [17:19] <BrandMuffins> 'fatal error during installtion"
#1897 [17:19] <xales> BrandMuffins: Try running it again.
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#1899 [17:19] <BrandMuffins> i did
#1900 [17:20] <BrandMuffins> and its on the last java thing i see
#1901 [17:20] <xales> Okay.
#1902 [17:20] <xales> BrandMuffins: Go here, and click "Run Now" http://support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall/
#1903 [17:20] <zzzz> fatal errors are supar fun
#1904 [17:20] <BrandMuffins> ok
#1905 [17:22] <BrandMuffins> Additional software is needed for this trouble shooter
#1906 [17:22] <xales> Install whatever it wants you to install.
#1907 [17:22] <BrandMuffins> Oh D:
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#1910 [17:23] <mib_5awhu3> hello
#1911 [17:23] <xales> Hi.
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#1923 [17:38] <Ngloxo72> I have a problem
#1924 [17:38] <Ngloxo72> Could someone help?
#1925 [17:40] <zzzz> ??> ask
#1926 [17:40] <xales> If you tell us what the problem is, sure.
#1927 [17:40] <zzzz> <fail>
#1928 [17:40] <Ngloxo72> hello?
#1929 [17:40] <xales> Hi.
#1930 [17:40] <xales> We can't help you if you don't just say what the problem is.
#1931 [17:40] <zzzz> ??> ngloxo72 ask
#1932 [17:40] <VoxelHead> ngloxo72: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1933 [17:40] <VoxelHead> ngloxo72: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1934 [17:40] <xales> Asking if someone can help you in a place *dedicated to helping people* just wastes time.
#1935 [17:40] <zzzz> there we go
#1936 [17:42] <Ngloxo72> The problem I am facing is that I downloaded a map for SMP, but didnt spawn in the city (it's a city map). So I loaded it in SSP, it spawned in the city, wrote down the coordinates, and tp'd there in SMP. But I teleported in the ocean
#1937 [17:42] <Ngloxo72> how could I find the city, without wading through the whole world?
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#1940 [17:43] <xales> Ngloxo72: If you went to the same coordinates, then it would be there.
#1941 [17:43] <Ngloxo72> but it isnt
#1942 [17:43] <xales> You likely aren't on the same map
#1943 [17:43] <Ngloxo72> the map i uploaded to the server, is the same map i used in ssp
#1944 [17:44] <xales> Yes, but did you configure the server to actually load the map properly?
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#1946 [17:44] <Ngloxo72> uhhh....
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#1948 [17:44] <Ngloxo72> wait i think i know what the problem is
#1949 [17:45] <Ngloxo72> when I uploaded it, i didn't put a capital W on World, so it created a new map like this http://gyazo.com/9a0e7f3f2229bf7f1e2338078e677a88
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#1951 [17:45] <Ngloxo72> wait the other way round
#1952 [17:46] <xales> The world folder needs to be lowercase
#1953 [17:46] <Ngloxo72> so I put a capital W, when i wasn't supposed to
#1954 [17:46] <xales> that would cause the issue, yes
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#1956 [17:46] <Ngloxo72> right ill try that
#1957 [17:46] <DVNN> em i seem to be out of memory
#1958 [17:47] <xales> DVNN: You could try installing 64-bit Java, but just relaunch Minecraft is probably the easiest thing to do.
#1959 [17:47] <DVNN> ok thanks
#1960 [17:47] <xales> Also, closing every other program you have open might help
#1961 [17:47] <xales> especially your web browser :p
#1962 [17:48] <DVNN> everything is closed ha and yes that was closed too :P
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#1964 [17:48] <xales> oh, okay
#1965 [17:48] <DVNN> lol
#1966 [17:50] <Ngloxo72> okay I did that, now ive got a minecraft error report. I think it crashed because it was trying to convert the map
#1967 [17:51] <Ngloxo72> ill upload the converted SSP map instead
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#1973 [17:59] <knight1011010> hi i need help with the demo of minecraft
#1974 [17:59] <lutzee> The demo doesn't exactly work right now, i assume it wont load for you?
#1975 [17:59] <knight1011010> yea
#1976 [18:00] <lutzee> Yes, at the moment you will have to wait for it to be fixed, it is a known problem
#1977 [18:00] <knight1011010> does that happen with everyone?
#1978 [18:01] <lutzee> We aren't sure, as we only speak with the people who have the problems
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#1980 [18:02] <knight1011010> o ok i have a second question tho
#1981 [18:02] <lutzee> ask away
#1982 [18:02] <knight1011010> did the 1.3 update come with wom?
#1983 [18:03] <xales> World of Minecraft is a third-party client for Minecraft Classic.
#1984 [18:03] <xales> It didn't "come with it".
#1985 [18:03] <xales> That doesn't make any sense.
#1986 [18:04] <knight1011010> ok but i ment basicly do i have to downlode the update?
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#1990 [18:09] <noob> so i am trying to open the free demo to give this game a try, and the screen sticks on "updating minecraft, done loadong" what may cause this?
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#1992 [18:10] <xales> noob: The demo doesn't work at the moment.
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#1994 [18:11] <xales> Sorry.
#1995 [18:11] <Tlangone121> Hey guys i have a question, my brother and myself both have minecraft bought and we are like 10 feet from eachother on two seperate computers in my room, however for some reason or another, we cannot directly connect to eachother :/ any ideaS?
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#1997 [18:11] <noob> thanks. any clue on when it will be up?
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#1999 [18:12] <xales> noob: Sometime in the future, we have no idea when, sorry.
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#2001 [18:13] <MrBear> How do i know what software my server is running on? Because I saw this and had no idea o.o , http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/627539-notice-classic-servers/
#2002 [18:13] <noob> thanks anyway, looks simple but fun might buy it before trying it .
#2003 [18:13] <xales> MrBear: Classic servers are for the old Classic game only.
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#2005 [18:13] <xales> MrBear: If you are running a survival server, then it's not Classic.
#2006 [18:14] <MrBear> Oh
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#2008 [18:14] <MrBear> Then i misread, sorry to waste your time D;
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#2013 [18:16] <Llamaface> Where should I report a Minecraft bug?
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#2015 [18:16] <xales> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_bugs/latest
#2016 [18:17] <Llamaface> thanks, shall read
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#2019 [18:17] <ibbie> can somebody help me with a minecraft memory problem?
#2020 [18:18] <xales> ibbie: If you tell us, specifically, what the problem is, then perhaps.
#2021 [18:18] <ibbie> i will log on to multiplayer, bettercraft, then for about two minutes, i play smoothly. then it will lag really bad, and say minecraft has run out of memory
#2022 [18:19] <xales> How much RAM do you have? Do you have many other programs open when playing Minecraft (especially web browsers)?
#2023 [18:19] <ibbie> 4 gig ram, nothing else open. the computer is only a week old
#2024 [18:19] <xales> You probably need to install 64-bit Java, then.
#2025 [18:20] <ibbie> so there is barely anything on it. i have 64 bit, im pretty sure
#2026 [18:20] <xales> Generally, unless you specifically installed it, you will not have the 64-bit version of Java.
#2027 [18:20] <xales> Can you go to Control Panel, then Programs and Features, and find where Java is listed, and tell me the version it says?
#2028 [18:20] <ibbie> ok
#2029 [18:21] <ibbie> oh, it says 32 bit. under programs, java
#2030 [18:22] <xales> What version number? Java 6, or Java 7?
#2031 [18:22] <ibbie> 6
#2032 [18:22] <xales> Okay.
#2033 [18:23] <xales> Go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp and use the "Windows Offline" installer
#2034 [18:23] <ibbie> alright thanks
#2035 [18:23] <xales> I forget how it looks on Windows, so if it gives you a separate 64-bit installer, use that one
#2036 [18:23] <ibbie> ok
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#2040 [18:26] <shiverurn> can someone help me? every time i try and get on a minecraft server it says polling for about 10 minutes, and when it finally finishes loading i can get on. but when i try and enter it while it is polling, my entire game crashes and i have to use cntrl alt delete to x-out.please help me
#2041 [18:26] <xales> shiverurn: Are you on Windows?
#2042 [18:26] <shiverurn> yes
#2043 [18:26] <xales> ??> shiverurn win/reinst
#2044 [18:26] <VoxelHead> shiverurn: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2045 [18:26] <VoxelHead> shiverurn: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2046 [18:28] <shiverurn> thank you very much!
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#2048 [18:29] <bushman> hi
#2049 [18:29] <xales> Hello.
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#2051 [18:29] <bushman> i have downloaded the minecraft exe and tried to log in and play demo.
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#2053 [18:30] <xales> The demo does not work at the moment, sorry.
#2054 [18:30] <bushman> the message says: Updating Minecraft, Done Loading
#2055 [18:30] <bushman> and the bar has freezed on like 90%
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#2057 [18:30] <xales> Yes, as I just said, the demo doesn't work right now.
#2058 [18:30] <Kohle|PC> Hello. Is Marc here?
#2059 [18:30] <ibbie> alright, when i go to that web, it says that i need 32 bit for 32 bit IE, and i have 32 bit IE. is 64 bit still safe to download?
#2060 [18:31] <bushman> xales: when will it be working?
#2061 [18:31] <xales> Kohle|PC: Not at the moment.
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#2063 [18:31] <Kohle|PC> xales: Dang. When is he usually on?
#2064 [18:31] <xales> ibbie: Yes. Also, you shouldn't use Internet Explorer; use something else, like Firefox or Google Chome. Internet Explorer is slow and insecure.
#2065 [18:31] <bushman> or what can i do to temporary walkover this problem?
#2066 [18:31] <xales> Kohle|PC: Midafternoon on weekends, I believe.
#2067 [18:31] <Kohle|PC> xales: Okay, what's his timezone?
#2068 [18:31] <bushman> s/walkover/walkaround/
#2069 [18:32] <xales> bushman: Sometime in the future, we don't know when. The only solution is to have someone with a premium account to log into your computer, so that the game downloads properly, then you can log in with your account and play the demo.
#2070 [18:32] <xales> Kohle|PC: PST
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#2072 [18:32] <bushman> i do not have anyone with premium
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#2074 [18:32] <xales> bushman: Well, then you'll either have to wait until the demo works, which could be a while, or watch Youtube videos of the game or something.
#2075 [18:33] <ibbie> yes, i am on chrome now. so, if i do 64 bit, everything will still be fine?
#2076 [18:33] <bushman> watch videos?
#2077 [18:33] <bushman> are you serious?
#2078 [18:33] <xales> ibbie: Yes; it just installs in addition to the normal 32-bit one.
#2079 [18:33] <bushman> -_-'
#2080 [18:33] <ibbie> ok thanks
#2081 [18:33] <h> Let's plays are fun...
#2082 [18:33] <xales> bushman: Yes. If you want to see what the game is like, there are many people playing the game on Youtube.
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#2086 [18:34] <xales> Given that there's effectively no demo, you have no other options really.
#2087 [18:34] <bushman> i don't want to watch other people play, i want to try it myself
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#2089 [18:34] <bushman> ok. question:
#2090 [18:34] <bushman> is there a way to manually copy those files in place?
#2091 [18:34] <xales> No.
#2092 [18:35] <bushman> what does the installer do that i can not do myself manually?
#2093 [18:35] <bushman> or is it that the demo does not work even for the people who already have downloaded it before? o_O
#2094 [18:35] <xales> It downloads the game for you, which requires authentication.
#2095 [18:35] <xales> Getting the game from elsewhere is a violation of the Terms of Service.
#2096 [18:36] <bushman> ok, it downloads it... what does it do then?
#2097 [18:36] <xales> (and usually comes with malware)
#2098 [18:36] <xales> Why does it matter? I'm telling you, that regardless of what you do, short of having someone download it for you, you cannot make it work.
#2099 [18:37] <bushman> i am aware that untrusted sources like unofficial forums or other sites can be dangerous and i do not plan on getting it from there
#2100 [18:37] <shiverburn> hi xales its shiverburn again. i tried deleting te app data for minecraft, but when i redownloaded the game and tried entering the server i wanted to play on, but the same problem occured. plz help me.
#2101 [18:38] <xales> shiverburn: Try a different server, perhaps?
#2102 [18:38] <bushman> all i want to know is if i would get a clean copy ,for example from a friend who does have a working copy of demo, is there anything special that the installer does besides copying files from the server to the hard drive
#2103 [18:38] <Llamaface> I know it's really old but you could try the PCGamer demo
#2104 [18:38] <xales> bushman: No. You could try manually building an install of Minecraft following the instructions here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1401643-minecraft-131-demo-crash-fix-windows/
#2105 [18:39] <xales> bushman: However, that's not something we can help you with. You're on your own doing that.
#2106 [18:39] <bushman> hmm..
#2107 [18:39] <bushman> ok, fair enough
#2108 [18:39] <bushman> btw, what seem to be a problem with the demo download anyway?
#2109 [18:40] <shiverburn> thank you! it seems the server i was on was, "experiencing technical difficulties".
#2110 [18:40] <xales> bushman: It's not actually performing the download
#2111 [18:40] <xales> (for whatever reason)
#2112 [18:41] <bushman> i see
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#2119 [18:49] <bugweiser> Can anyone help me figure out why i cant dedicate more than 1gb of ram to my minecraft server?
#2120 [18:49] <ash> so i tried two paypal accounts and a debit card and i can not buy the game
#2121 [18:49] <bugweiser> I am running 64bit java
#2122 [18:49] <Kanegasi> ?? javara
#2123 [18:49] <ash> my boyfriend used the same paypal account for his comp and it worked for him
#2124 [18:49] <Kanegasi> what was that special java remover mentioned earlier?
#2125 [18:50] <Kanegasi> ?? JavaRa
#2126 [18:50] <Kanegasi> oh, not case sensitive
#2127 [18:50] <lutzee> bugweiser, what does it say?
#2128 [18:51] <lutzee> Kanegasi, javara is too remove java
#2129 [18:51] <Kanegasi> i know, completely unrelated to any help in progress... i found it in the chat buffer though
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#2131 [18:52] <ash> can someone help me please
#2132 [18:55] <Zickle_Rising> hi i was just playing a lava survival game on wom and i got disscinected, i tryed to resume the gameplay on the account but it said that my'' password may be rong, or there are no servers to verify your login''
#2133 [18:55] <Kanegasi> what is the error you are getting when attempting to purchase ash?
#2134 [18:56] <Zickle_Rising> i dont know whats rong but i fear that my stuff has been stolen, and i need help
#2135 [18:57] <ash> when paying with a debit card it says declined when i know i have money in my account.
#2136 [18:57] <Kanegasi> Zickle_Rising: the second part of that error may be the culprit. The login servers have been screwy off and on for over a week now
#2137 [18:57] <Kanegasi> just try and login again in a few minutes
#2138 [18:57] <Zickle_Rising> ohh cool that makes me feel alot better
#2139 [18:58] <Zickle_Rising> thanks
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#2141 [18:58] <lutzee> Also we don't support 3rd party applications
#2142 [18:58] <ash> when i used the paypal accounts that i know work because one out of two were just used to purchase the game on a different computer and it says that they cant access the account
#2143 [18:58] <Zickle_Rising> ok
#2144 [18:58] <Kanegasi> ash: thinking about the paypal, it may not be accepting the paypal your boyfriend used. if you want to use that paypal, have your boyfriend purchase as a gift
#2145 [18:59] <ash> ok thank you
#2146 [18:59] <Kanegasi> i havent used the gift option, so i dont know how it works
#2147 [18:59] <Kanegasi> its the second big link on the store page in minecraft.net
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#2149 [19:02] <ash> yeah im trying it. my card is disabled because ive tried so many times buying the game regularly
#2150 [19:03] <ash> and paypal doesnt show as one of the payment options on the gift one
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#2153 [19:04] <avv> hey
#2154 [19:04] <avv> how do you get rid of that black/yellow striped box that is inside the orange frame after you remove a quarry? eg. the square that it designates as a place to mine. I want to place another quarry next to it but it keeps adding the old frame to my landmark selection
#2155 [19:04] <Kanegasi> a mod?
#2156 [19:04] <avv> Yes
#2157 [19:04] <avv> tekkit
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#2159 [19:04] <Kanegasi> we dont do mod here
#2160 [19:04] <avv> ok
#2161 [19:04] <Kanegasi> *mods
#2162 [19:05] <ash> did you get my message
#2163 [19:05] <avv> fair enough
#2164 [19:05] <Kanegasi> typically large modders have their own channel or forum
#2165 [19:05] <Kanegasi> ask there
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#2167 [19:06] <ash> ?
#2168 [19:06] <Kanegasi> ack, avv and ash look similar lol
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#2170 [19:06] <ash> i noticed that lol
#2171 [19:06] <NinjaKirby> lol...
#2172 [19:06] <ash> so paypal doesnt show up in the gift game option
#2173 [19:07] <Kanegasi> interesting, it doesnt
#2174 [19:07] <ash> yeah and i tried on google chrome and internet explorer
#2175 [19:08] <Kanegasi> i would call the owner of your debit card then. most auto activity locks can be easily removed with a phonecall
#2176 [19:08] <ash> so the bank?
#2177 [19:08] <Kanegasi> im prior navy, so my card would get locked the first day back on land from sudden usage
#2178 [19:08] <Kanegasi> yea
#2179 [19:09] <ash> yeah banks are closed here now
#2180 [19:09] <Kanegasi> most support lines are 24/7. what is your bank?
#2181 [19:09] <ash> tioga state bank
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#2183 [19:10] <Kanegasi> 888-303-4TSB
#2184 [19:10] <Kanegasi> they may have 24/7 human support
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#2186 [19:11] <Kanegasi> they could also explain why the first purchase attempt didnt go through
#2187 [19:13] <ash> yeah they dont unfortunately someone told me the reason it didnt go through was because the game is in sweden or something
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#2191 [19:17] <Study> I get a java error when i try to start the minecraft game can someone help me with this?
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#2193 [19:17] <Study> Please anyone
#2194 [19:18] <Smanly> Pastebin.com the error, Study.
#2195 [19:18] <Fps4d> For some reason when ever I join a game and try to use my build or remove keys its opens up the options menu?
#2196 [19:18] <Smanly> Check you controls, Fps4d
#2197 [19:18] <Kanegasi> ash: yes, all payments eventually go to a bank in sweden, but they have processes in the us that allow normal purchasing, so im not sure why it was rejected
#2198 [19:18] <ash> im trying moneybookers right now.
#2199 [19:18] <Fps4d> I did its all normal. Plus I cant really change mouse keys in options
#2200 [19:19] <Kanegasi> OH... do you use your mouse side buttons for other things?
#2201 [19:19] <Kanegasi> like mapped vent or something?
#2202 [19:19] <Kanegasi> and is your mouse logitech?
#2203 [19:19] <Fps4d> I do. But I have also tride othe mice, all do the same thing.
#2204 [19:20] <Study> How can i fix the Java Virtual Machine Error?
#2205 [19:20] <Kanegasi> there is a not-so-well known bug with java7 that screws up side buttons on some mice
#2206 [19:20] <Kanegasi> you need to either use java6 or remap your side buttons
#2207 [19:21] <Fps4d> whats Javao?
#2208 [19:21] <Fps4d> java6
#2209 [19:21] <Kanegasi> i have a logitech m705 and use the small forward button for vent. i had to remap that to a key in order for the options to stop popping up
#2210 [19:21] <Kanegasi> the current version of java is 7u5. the last known version 6 is 6u33
#2211 [19:22] <Fps4d> Will Minecraft still ruN?
#2212 [19:22] <Kanegasi> yes
#2213 [19:22] <Fps4d> Awesome
#2214 [19:22] <Fps4d> I will try that. Thanks so much :D
#2215 [19:22] <Kanegasi> np
#2216 [19:23] <Kanegasi> study: copy and paste the crash screen to pastebin.com and paste the link here
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#2218 [19:23] <Kanegasi> ¬_¬
#2219 [19:23] <Fps4d> Hopfully This works then I CAN BUILD LIKE A PRO AGAIN MUAHAHAH
#2220 [19:24] <Kanegasi> Fps4d: i assume you are grabbing this? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#2221 [19:25] <ngc0202> On an older server
#2222 [19:26] <ngc0202> a newly generated chunk would have emeralds, right?
#2223 [19:26] <DopeGhoti> ??> Kanegasi java/1.7
#2224 [19:26] <VoxelHead> Kanegasi: (java/1.7) Java 1.7 is still in development, and is known to be incompatible with Minecraft.
#2225 [19:26] <ngc0202> if it's running 1.3.1 server
#2226 [19:26] <Kanegasi> well thats a simpler message :P
#2227 [19:26] <Kanegasi> Fps4d has the issue, not me though
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#2229 [19:27] <Kanegasi> well, i had the mouse issue months ago
#2230 [19:27] <Kanegasi> i have a really nice coolermaster mouse sitting around somewhere, but i refuse to give up my m705 until it dies
#2231 [19:28] <DopeGhoti> Logitech has made the best mice since the 1980s.
#2232 [19:29] <Fps4d> -_-
#2233 [19:29] <Fps4d> still doesnt work!..
#2234 [19:29] <Kanegasi> did you uninstall java7?
#2235 [19:29] <NinjaKirby> Dope: For any type of use? Gamer/Casual etc.
#2236 [19:30] <Fps4d> -_- well i feel stupid
#2237 [19:30] <Kanegasi> ??> Fps4d win/JavaRa
#2238 [19:30] <VoxelHead> Fps4d: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#2239 [19:30] <VoxelHead> Fps4d: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#2240 [19:30] <Fps4d> Is that a trusted website?
#2241 [19:30] <Kanegasi> yes
#2242 [19:31] <Kanegasi> if it wasnt, voxelhead wouldnt have the link
#2243 [19:31] <Kanegasi> i actually used that myself
#2244 [19:31] <bushman> is the error about missing openGL a common problem?
#2245 [19:31] <Fps4d> Hmm Ok I will first try and uninstall java7 then if that doesnt work I will move to the site.
#2246 [19:32] <Fps4d> No. I just cant use my mouse without the options menu opening.
#2247 [19:32] <Kanegasi> ninjakirby: for everyone. i lived by a m610 for years. i even bought a new one when the old one needed to retire. i went through three of them until i couldnt find them anymore. they stopped making 610
#2248 [19:32] <Fps4d> Im running a Razer Naga.
#2249 [19:33] <Kanegasi> it had a ton of buttons on it and using a third-party driver program, i could remap that thing to anything i wanted
#2250 [19:33] <Kanegasi> razer nagas scare me
#2251 [19:33] <Fps4d> Whys that?
#2252 [19:33] <Kanegasi> im not ready to move up from just two side buttons :P
#2253 [19:33] <ash> someone should just buy this game for me because i am having the worst time ever paying for this. lol
#2254 [19:33] <Fps4d> isnt it like 20 bucks?
#2255 [19:33] <Kanegasi> did your boyfriend try his card?
#2256 [19:33] <ash> not the money just getting it to work
#2257 [19:34] <ash> ive tried debit cards and two paypal accounts and one moneybookers account
#2258 [19:34] <ash> nothing is working
#2259 [19:34] <ash> yes his is restricted too because he had the same problem i did at first
#2260 [19:35] <ash> until he used his moms paypal account, which i tried also and didnt work for me
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#2262 [19:35] <Fps4d> might not have the amount of money needed?
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#2264 [19:36] <ash> theres enough money on both cards. someone said it might be because my bank thinks its not safe or something
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#2266 [19:36] <Fps4d> Well that might be true
#2267 [19:36] <Fps4d> since the bank might think that the money is being taken out in a euro state
#2268 [19:37] <ash> but i tried a paypal account and that didnt work
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#2271 [19:37] <The_Lord_Drake> Ello?
#2272 [19:37] <Kanegasi> well, fps4d, it is. all minecraft purchases make their way to sweden
#2273 [19:37] <Kanegasi> hi
#2274 [19:37] <The_Lord_Drake> Are you busy?
#2275 [19:37] <Kanegasi> no
#2276 [19:37] <ash> is there a way i could access my account on a different comp and then buy it there and then play it on mine?
#2277 [19:37] <Fps4d> so there bank might be thinking its frod
#2278 [19:38] <Fps4d> OMG! IT WORKED! THANKS SO MUCH Kanegasi
#2279 [19:38] <The_Lord_Drake> Okay, I have an issue trying to run the Minecraft Demo on Mac OS X (Mountain Lion). It keeps telling me that the app is broken or damaged.
#2280 [19:38] <Kanegasi> ash: yes, computer doesnt matter. its the account that the payment gets recorded on
#2281 [19:38] <Kanegasi> yw fps4d
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#2283 [19:38] <ash> should i try to make a different account
#2284 [19:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> The_Lord_Drake mac/gatekeeper
#2285 [19:38] <VoxelHead> The_Lord_Drake: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go do System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2286 [19:39] <Fps4d> brb
#2287 [19:39] <Kanegasi> i need to get used to voxelhead... i was in the middle of typing that
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#2302 [19:39] <The_Lord_Drake> Okay, I'll give that a shot.
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#2304 [19:39] <ash> ?
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#2310 [19:41] <Kanegasi> you could try to use a new account
#2311 [19:41] <Kanegasi> but if the payments dont work, they may not work for that either
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#2318 [19:46] <bushman> "Bad video card drivers!" common problem? i have fresh nvidia drivers installed
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#2322 [19:48] <The_Lord_Drake> Okay, it appears to be working. Many thanks DopeGhoti. :)
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#2327 [19:49] <bushman> anyone?
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#2329 [19:50] <ash> ok, so i have made another account and that didnt work to buy the game either
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#2331 [19:50] <ash> i am getting really frustrated
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#2337 [19:51] <ash> ?
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#2344 [19:59] <The_Lord_Drake> Excuse me, sorry to bug you guys again, but I'm having trouble getting Minecraft to use my skin. :/
#2345 [20:00] <Smanly> What is your Username, The_Lord_Drake ?
#2346 [20:00] <The_Lord_Drake> The same one used here.
#2347 [20:01] <Smanly> A guy with reddish hair and glasses
#2348 [20:02] <The_Lord_Drake> ?
#2349 [20:02] <Smanly> You skin
#2350 [20:02] <Smanly> What is it?
#2351 [20:02] <The_Lord_Drake> A guy with reddish brown hair, glasses and some crude armour.
#2352 [20:03] <Smanly> Ok, are you trying to change it?
#2353 [20:03] <The_Lord_Drake> In game I still look like Steve though.
#2354 [20:03] <Smanly> Well, could be the MC servers.
#2355 [20:03] <oldtopman> The_Lord_Drake: Have you restarted the client since you uploaded the skin?
#2356 [20:03] <The_Lord_Drake> Two or three times now.
#2357 [20:04] <The_Lord_Drake> I even tried starting a new world.
#2358 [20:05] <Smanly> Have you tried it on a server?
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#2360 [20:05] <The_Lord_Drake> No I've not yet tried MP.
#2361 [20:05] <Smanly> The skin is set, you just cant see it.
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#2364 [20:06] <audefly> my game broke and i redownloaded and its still broken
#2365 [20:06] <The_Lord_Drake> Okay, then do I need to connect to a MP server?
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#2367 [20:06] <audefly> my game broke and i redownloaded and its still broken help me
#2368 [20:06] <audefly> my game broke and i redownloaded and its still broken help me
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#2371 [20:07] <audefly> is anyone here i need help!
#2372 [20:08] <Smanly> ??>> audefly ask
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#2374 [20:11] <audefly> Okay so my client went wacky and started opening and closing chat on a frozen screen onmy realm on WoM Realms after i closed it i tried to resume to WoM Realms but it said "Failed to connect to server its probably down!" i then came here and talked to AwsomeG2 he told me my game broke and that i needed to redownload it i redownloaded it but it still says "Failed to connect to server its probably down!" but i know for a f
#2375 [20:11] <DopeGhoti> ??> audefly mods
#2376 [20:11] <VoxelHead> audefly: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2377 [20:11] <VoxelHead> audefly: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2378 [20:11] <DiskDaemon> dammit, ninja'd
#2379 [20:12] <audefly> mod installation i dont get that ?
#2380 [20:12] <audefly> i wasnt doing singleplayer mode
#2381 [20:12] <DiskDaemon> world of minecraft is a modded version of minecraft - contact the wom support for that
#2382 [20:13] <audefly> okay but how to contact them this is my first day here
#2383 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> This channel doesn't provide support for modded versions of the game - there are just too many complexities involved there
#2384 [20:13] <audefly> oh so do i just post in the support section of Wom forums ?
#2385 [20:13] <DiskDaemon> See http://www.worldofminecraft.com/IRC
#2386 [20:14] <audefly> i am here http://www.worldofminecraft.com/IRC is this.....
#2387 [20:15] <Smanly> ...
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#2389 [20:16] <Yodist> I am experencing villagers just disappearing. I am on a private server. What would cause this and is it something that is due to being on a private server?
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#2391 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> What the hell? So they direct people over to here? Well that's just wrong.
#2392 [20:16] <audefly> do i just post in the support section of Wom forums ?
#2393 [20:16] <Smanly> #WoM
#2394 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> audefly: Yes, that would be a good idea
#2395 [20:16] <audefly> okay but one question i cant find the post button
#2396 [20:17] <DiskDaemon> Sorry, I haven't dealt with wom before
#2397 [20:17] <audefly> okay
#2398 [20:18] <audefly> im going to see if AwsoemG2 is on #WoM
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#2407 [20:25] <ngc0202> If I delete someone's player.dat
#2408 [20:25] <ngc0202> Will their inventory clear?
#2409 [20:25] <DiskDaemon> yes
#2410 [20:25] <ngc0202> good :)
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#2415 [20:33] <abbe722> hi
#2416 [20:33] <abbe722> i have question
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#2418 [20:34] <abbe722> can i migrate back from mojang to minecraft.net so i can login whit my nick
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#2421 [20:34] <DiskDaemon> I don't think so, no.
#2422 [20:34] <devlin> hello, have you heard of what is commonly referred to as the "done loading" error?
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#2424 [20:35] <abbe722> ok tnx
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#2427 [20:38] <dillehsmash> Hi, i'm trying to download the minecraft demo, but i get a screen saying "updating minecraft" below that it says "done loading" with a green bar not full filled
#2428 [20:40] <DiskDaemon> sorry, that doesn't work right now
#2429 [20:40] <dillehsmash> You're talking about the demo, right?
#2430 [20:41] <DiskDaemon> that's right - before the demo can be played, it currently requires a premium user to have already downloaded the game on your machine
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#2432 [20:42] <dillehsmash> Well that sounds kind of pointless to have a demo ._.
#2433 [20:43] <DiskDaemon> Currently it's there to allow premium users to demo the game to other people - perhaps in time that may change, we'll have to keep an eye on it
#2434 [20:43] <dillehsmash> Well, okay thank you for your help ^-^
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#2438 [20:57] <ash> how do i do the server thing to play with a friend
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#2441 [20:58] <ash> ?
#2442 [21:00] <DiskDaemon> Are you and your friend both on the same local network?
#2443 [21:01] <ash> yes
#2444 [21:01] <ash> we are on the same wifi
#2445 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> With minecraft 1.3, you can share your singleplayer world so that he can join it. Is that something like what you're after?
#2446 [21:02] <ash> yes
#2447 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> Okay. With your world open, press Esc for the menu, and select Open to LAN
#2448 [21:03] <DiskDaemon> When you start the LAN world, you will be shown the address that your friend can connect to so that he can access your world.
#2449 [21:03] <ash> ok
#2450 [21:04] <DiskDaemon> If that address goes away before you can note it down, you can press the T key to see what it is again
#2451 [21:05] <ash> how does he enter the address in to access it
#2452 [21:06] <DiskDaemon> He goes to his multiplayer screen in order to connect
#2453 [21:08] <Kanegasi> the multiplayer screen should see your world if its open
#2454 [21:08] <Kanegasi> oh, how did you get the payment to work ash? new account?
#2455 [21:09] <ash> yeah
#2456 [21:09] <ash> lol
#2457 [21:09] <ash> finally i was soooo happy
#2458 [21:09] <Kanegasi> interesting
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#2460 [21:11] <ash> yeah it was
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#2462 [21:14] <Zeta> i install the latested drivers for Intel R HD Graphics Card and minecraft still says "Bad Video Card Drivers"
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#2464 [21:15] <DiskDaemon> Then it seems that your graphics card doesn't have drivers that are capable of doing the job.
#2465 [21:16] <Zeta> So what am i supposed to do?
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#2467 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> What details can we get about your setup?
#2468 [21:17] <DiskDaemon> ??> Zeta win/dxdiag
#2469 [21:17] <VoxelHead> Zeta: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2470 [21:17] <VoxelHead> Zeta: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2472 [21:18] <Zeta> ok
#2473 [21:21] <Zeta> http://pastebin.com/YiaRrt8v
#2474 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> How exactly did you try to update your video drivers?
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#2477 [21:24] <DiskDaemon> A review of the Satellite L635 says "Non demanding games should be playable with these graphics cards."
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#2479 [21:24] <OldMan> I am working on a mob spawning area for animals. It's a large walled area. Is there anything special I need to do to encourage the mobs to spawn in this area?
#2480 [21:24] <GreyVulpine> Got a couple of potential solutions.. One, go through device manager with the drivers downloaded from intel's site, or two, launch minecraft with reduced RAM arguments
#2481 [21:25] <Zeta> First i tried going on the website and downloading the .Exe file and updated it. Then i also tried going to the Graphics Card Properties and pressing 'Update Drivers'
#2482 [21:25] <GreyVulpine> Zeta - Which website?
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#2485 [21:26] <DiskDaemon> OldMan: Yes - remove all other grass that's with 150 blocks of the area
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#2487 [21:27] <DiskDaemon> OldMan: That's because mobs spawn on grass. You can control where they spawn by controlling where the grass is.
#2488 [21:27] <OldMan> okay, thank you kindfly for your help =)
#2489 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Zeta - Which website?
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#2491 [21:27] <OldMan> If I have dirt, then grass should grow. correct?
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#2493 [21:27] <Zeta_> connection timed out "Zeta = Zeta_"
#2494 [21:27] <MatMan838> My skin wont update :I
#2495 [21:27] <Smanly> No OldMan
#2496 [21:27] <Smanly> Grass spreads to dirt
#2497 [21:28] <Zeta_> http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/ - This is the website i used
#2498 [21:28] <DiskDaemon> No, grass only grows from grass. Grass will spread to any dirt blocks that are around existing grass blocks
#2499 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - One moment
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#2501 [21:28] <OldMan> so that means my platform up in the sky will never grow grass and no animals will spawn on it? =(
#2502 [21:28] <MatMan838> unless you get grass blocks
#2503 [21:29] <OldMan> How do I "get" a grass bock?
#2504 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> OldMan: Correct, it won't. You can make a staircase of dirt down to a grass area though, and wait for the grass to spread up it
#2505 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - Try these drivers: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=20391&ProdId=3231&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%207%20%2864-bit%29*&DownloadType=Drivers
#2506 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - Let me know if they don't work.
#2507 [21:29] <OldMan> ok I will trythat. Thanks Disk =)
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#2509 [21:29] <DiskDaemon> OldMan: You can either create a dirt path for the grass to spread along, or you can use a shovel with a "silk touch" enchantment to pick up blocks of grass that can be placed down elsewhere
#2510 [21:30] <DiskDaemon> OldMan: Try to ensure that the dirt path is at least two blocks wide - it takes a very long time when it's only 1 block wide for grass to spread along it
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#2512 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> OldMan: Oh, another way is with a piston. You can place a piston below a grass block, and push the grass block up. Then remove the piston and place it again against the grass block, to push it further
#2513 [21:34] <Zeta_> "The driver being installed is not validated for this computer"
#2514 [21:34] <GreyVulpine> Yeah, figures. Toshiba only lets signed drivers installed on their computers, one moment
#2515 [21:35] <GreyVulpine> What you're going to need to do is this, go here, download the same driver in .zip format: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3231&DwnldID=20841&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Core%E2%84%A2+Processors+with+Intel%C2%AE+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
#2516 [21:36] <GreyVulpine> Once you downloaded those drivers, unzip them to a folder you can get to easily. Go to the device manager, and click on "Have disk", then navigate to the folder. You'll then be able to see a .inf file for the driver to install from.
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#2520 [21:41] <mcabralvallis> It says error could not create java virtual machine
#2521 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall and reinstall java
#2522 [21:41] <mcabralvallis> It won't let me play
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#2524 [21:41] <GreyVulpine> Completely uninstall and reinstall java.
#2525 [21:41] <mcabralvallis> and I did that first
#2526 [21:41] <mcabralvallis> I'll try agian i suppose
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#2528 [21:42] <c0nan> can someone help me?im trying to run minecraft in ubuntu but i got a crash report http://mibpaste.com/3A7oPD
#2529 [21:42] <GreyVulpine> Looks like you don't have the proper video drivers installed.
#2530 [21:43] <Zeta_> Im on Device Manager and I dont see the option "Have Disk"
#2531 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - Go to Display. Right click on Intel HD graphics. Click on Update drivers. In the wizard, instead of "Automatically detect", there'll be another option to select a driver manually
#2532 [21:44] <c0nan> hmmm, yeah...i dont have drivers yet...i was gonna fix that later on, but i guess i have to fix it now?
#2533 [21:44] <GreyVulpine> c0nan- Yes
#2534 [21:44] <Zeta_> oh, ok
#2535 [21:44] <c0nan> ok, thank
#2536 [21:44] <c0nan> s
#2537 [21:44] <mcabralvallis> okay i reinstalled java
#2538 [21:45] <mcabralvallis> it still says it
#2539 [21:45] <mcabralvallis> Now what?
#2540 [21:46] <GreyVulpine> mcabralvallis - Completely remove java. Install java 6 from: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#2541 [21:46] <Nathan2055> That means everything in add or remove programs that begins with Java,
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#2543 [21:47] <Nathan2055> including, but not limited to, Java Runtime Environment, Java FX, Java Development Kit, etc.
#2544 [21:49] <mcabralvallis> I'm downloading windows x64 now, is that correct?
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#2547 [21:50] <mcabralvallis> It seems to be working now
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#2549 [21:52] <mcabralvallis> How do I take off this 3d effect?
#2550 [21:53] <GreyVulpine> Esc -> options
#2551 [21:53] <mcabralvallis> Wait got it
#2552 [21:53] <Zeta_> "The Folder specified does not contain a compatible software driver"
#2553 [21:54] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - Did you go inside the first folder into the graphics folder?
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#2555 [21:55] <mcabralvallis> Why does my minecraft lag?
#2556 [21:55] <GreyVulpine> Either your computer needs to have its video drivers updated, you're running too many other programs at the same time, or your computer is simply too underpowered to run minecraft smoothly
#2557 [21:56] <mcabralvallis> Well I can run skyrim with graphic mods on ultra with 40+ fps so I shouldnt have trouble with google chrome being open and playing it -__________-
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#2559 [21:57] <PackTheMoon> I need help
#2560 [21:57] <PackTheMoon> Anybody here with direct contact with mojang
#2561 [21:57] <PackTheMoon> there is an exploit
#2562 [21:57] <PackTheMoon> i need to report
#2563 [21:57] <PackTheMoon> that could hold servers offline for months
#2564 [21:57] <GreyVulpine> mcabralvallis - That's what one would think, but skyrim doesn't run off of OpenGL, which many integrated video cards don't run well
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#2567 [21:58] <Nathan2055> GreyVulpine: Uh, you think that was real?
#2568 [21:58] <mcabralvallis> Hm. So what should I do? My driver doesn't need updating.
#2569 [21:59] <GreyVulpine> Nathan2055 - No idea
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#2572 [22:00] <GreyVulpine> mcabralvallis - Try turning down some of the graphics options inside minecraft
#2573 [22:00] <Zeta_> Tried all the folders and it say the same thing
#2574 [22:00] <mcabralvallis> I have normal view distance and fast graphics
#2575 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_- Then try these instructions: http://pastebin.com/1knuj6Zh
#2576 [22:01] <GreyVulpine> mcabralvallis - Do you know what video card you have?
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#2578 [22:02] <mcabralvallis> 675m
#2579 [22:03] <GreyVulpine> Say what?
#2580 [22:03] <DiskDaemon> a geforce gtx 675m graphics card
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#2582 [22:04] <mcabralvallis> Yea that's the one
#2583 [22:05] <GreyVulpine> Try updating the drivers from: http://www.geforce.com/drivers
#2584 [22:06] <mcabralvallis> already tried
#2585 [22:06] <mcabralvallis> It says "No drivers found. Please select a different combination or use the automatic driver detection option"
#2586 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> What is your operating system?
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#2588 [22:08] <mcabralvallis> woops
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#2593 [22:13] <Zeta_> 'java' is not recognized internal or external command
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#2595 [22:14] <jarrett> it keeps saying it out of memory and crashing
#2596 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - Try modifying the java command line to have an absolute path to your java installation. Do you know where java is installed?
#2597 [22:16] <GreyVulpine> jarrett - What operating system are you running, and how much RAM is installed?
#2598 [22:18] <jarrett> um i have 800 free gb the computer is brand new not sure how much ram
#2599 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> A dxdiag report can help to give us much of that sort of info
#2600 [22:19] <DiskDaemon> ??> jarrett win/dxdiag
#2601 [22:19] <VoxelHead> jarrett: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2602 [22:19] <VoxelHead> jarrett: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2606 [22:21] <Zeta_> I dont know where its installed
#2607 [22:22] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - Go to your C:\ drive. Look for program files. Check the path where java is installed
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#2610 [22:25] <Zeta_> TI106044W0C (C;)/ProgramFiles (x86)/Java
#2611 [22:25] <GreyVulpine> Alright. With the bat file, replace java -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
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#2613 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> with: "c:\Program Files (x86)\java\jre6\bin\java.exe" -Xmx256M -Xms256M -cp minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
#2614 [22:26] <GreyVulpine> Include those quotes
#2615 [22:26] <Marc_IRL> Anyone know anything about a crash being triggered by someone exiting their inventory?
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#2617 [22:27] <Carlos> Hi
#2618 [22:27] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, were they using any mods at all Marc_IRL?
#2619 [22:28] <Marc_IRL> Probably not
#2620 [22:28] <Smanly> I haven't heard of it.
#2621 [22:28] <Carlos> Can anyone here tell me how to add custom ranks to a custom server or protect blocks or change day/time????
#2622 [22:28] <Marc_IRL> The thrown exception was java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: -100
#2623 [22:28] <Smanly> #mcserverhelp
#2624 [22:28] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL pastebin stacktrace?
#2625 [22:28] <Carlos> ^
#2626 [22:29] <Marc_IRL> one sec, lemme strip the info out of this email
#2627 [22:29] <ShaRose> k
#2628 [22:29] <Marc_IRL> http://pastebin.com/mNWGBdNK
#2629 [22:30] <ShaRose> eh?
#2630 [22:30] <Marc_IRL> second email that I've seen where they said someone exited their inventory and the game crashed
#2631 [22:30] <ShaRose> that same stacktrace?
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#2633 [22:30] <Marc_IRL> That's the full error log
#2634 [22:30] <ShaRose> no, I mean both times
#2635 [22:30] <Marc_IRL> both times what?
#2636 [22:31] <ShaRose> you said you got an email like this before
#2637 [22:31] * ShaRose pulls up eclipse
#2637 [22:31] <Marc_IRL> That'll take some digging, I'll see if I can find it in today's emails
#2638 [22:31] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I've seen that happen in Creative mode, but not survival mode. Would that be creative mode too for your person?
#2639 [22:32] <ShaRose> yes it would be DiskDaemon
#2640 [22:32] <ShaRose> aqm == GuiContainerCreative
#2641 [22:33] <Marc_IRL> Here's the other instance http://pastebin.com/VVrrpre8
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#2644 [22:35] <Marc_IRL> Can't wait until EvilSeph has error reporting up and running
#2645 [22:36] <Zeta_> It still didnt work...
#2646 [22:36] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL the only way they'd have that exception is if they somehow set the key code for open chat to -100
#2647 [22:37] <Carlos> can someone here tell me how i can add custom ranks or blocks that have protection in a mc server?
#2648 [22:37] <Marc_IRL> I don't know what that is, and I have a feeling these people didn't either
#2649 [22:37] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - Do you have java 6 or 7 installed?
#2650 [22:37] <ShaRose> tl;dr they borked the settings somehow
#2651 [22:37] <Marc_IRL> Carlos: visit #mcserverhelp
#2652 [22:37] <Carlos> No one is there
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#2654 [22:38] <ShaRose> you can verify by getting them to respond with options.txt: key_key.chat:-100 should be there.
#2655 [22:38] <DiskDaemon> Is it possible to simulate the borked settings, so that we can work out a technique for someone to undo the damage?
#2656 [22:38] <Zeta_> Java 7
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#2658 [22:38] <ShaRose> That said, it might be pointing to another bug
#2659 [22:38] <ShaRose> I'll look into that a bit
#2660 [22:38] <GreyVulpine> Zeta_ - Ah, then use: "c:\Program Files (x86)\java\jre7\bin\java.exe"
#2661 [22:39] <ShaRose> and shoot an email to dinner
#2662 [22:39] <Marc_IRL> Just thought it was weird to have two separate instances of it at almost the same time from two different people
#2663 [22:39] <ShaRose> yeah, it is really odd
#2664 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> I'm seeing in my options.txt that the attack key is: key_key.attack:-100
#2665 [22:39] <Marc_IRL> If you guys haven't seen it, I can send off our default response which is basically "I have no idea, but here's some links to places that might"
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#2667 [22:39] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL well I just said what it was and how to fix it :V
#2668 [22:40] <ShaRose> looking in to HOW they made it happen atm
#2669 [22:40] <DiskDaemon> That -100 seems to be the left mouse button.
#2670 [22:40] <pokedude10> Hey, are the MC Skin servers down again?
#2671 [22:40] <Marc_IRL> pokedude10: do you have a steve skin?
#2672 [22:40] <pokedude10> yep
#2673 [22:40] <Marc_IRL> Then probably
#2674 [22:40] <ShaRose> DiskDaemon hmm, that might be it actually
#2675 [22:41] <ShaRose> time to verify!
#2676 [22:41] <pokedude10> anyone else have the default skin right now because of this?
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#2678 [22:41] <Marc_IRL> Try changing your skin to something else. If you can, great. If you can't, server is down.
#2679 [22:42] <Zeta_> Ok, it opened Minecraft
#2680 [22:42] <Marc_IRL> BTW peeps, I asked Kris to add skin server status to the help page; it's on the to-do list now
#2681 [22:42] <Marc_IRL> Not that it'll help answer everyones' questions. I still get spammed on twitter every time a server goes down :p
#2682 [22:42] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Are you aware that the demo doesn't currently work for many people?
#2683 [22:42] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL Exception fully verified, they set the chat key to mouse 1
#2684 [22:43] <ShaRose> sucessfully reproduced
#2685 [22:43] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: Are these people who downloaded the client before august 12th?
#2686 [22:43] <DiskDaemon> That would quite possibly be the case
#2687 [22:44] <Marc_IRL> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/425381-can-i-try-minecraft-before-i-buy-it-
#2688 [22:44] <Marc_IRL> They need the new launcher, and it's not obvious. Grum is working on a better one, and making it a mandatory one time download.
#2689 [22:44] <Zeta_> It still says "Bad Video Card Drivers" and gives an error report in the command window
#2690 [22:44] <Marc_IRL> For now, they should follow the instructions in our handy help article :p
#2691 [22:44] <gv> Zeta_: run mine craft as nornal
#2692 [22:45] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: So, explain it like I'm Steve :p
#2693 [22:45] <gv> Bleh.
#2694 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: I'm just testing now on a fresh minecraft.exe download, and the same demo problem occurs. It can be tested with an empty .minecraft folder
#2695 [22:47] <Smanly> When the "demo" version is downloaded, what keeps them from playing offline?
#2696 [22:47] <Smanly> Or is that the demo version?
#2697 [22:47] <Smanly> I havent tried it.
#2698 [22:47] <Marc_IRL> demo version should just trigger for non premium people
#2699 [22:47] <Smanly> Oh.
#2700 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> It's that the files don't seem to be allowed to be downloaded when you log in with a non-premium account
#2701 [22:47] <gv> Zeta_: the issue lies with the crappy Intel hd video drivers.
#2702 [22:47] <Marc_IRL> What does it say instead of play demo? Not downloaded?
#2703 [22:48] <gv> It'll try to download and get stuck at done lading
#2704 [22:48] <gv> Loading even
#2705 [22:48] <Marc_IRL> So, what, we've had a demo mode for two weeks that no one has been able to use? O_o
#2706 [22:48] <gv> Right
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#2708 [22:48] <Marc_IRL> Why do people not freak out over twitter to me about THIS kind of stuff?
#2709 [22:48] <Smanly> You didnt know about it?
#2710 [22:48] <Smanly> Waddafack
#2711 [22:49] <Smanly> They come in here.
#2712 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: The demo works fine if the files are already there (they've been downloaded by a premium user) but without the files already being there, when the non-premium account chooses to play the demo, the update appears to begin but it halts with the progress bar at 95%, and no bin/ files downloaded
#2713 [22:49] <Smanly> We tell them its borked
#2714 [22:49] <Marc_IRL> If I could take all of the "IS SRVR DOAWN" and turn them into things like "Demo mode doesn't work because it won't download the files"...
#2715 [22:49] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, but that's useless :p
#2716 [22:49] <Marc_IRL> Goddamnit
#2717 [22:49] <Smanly> I thought we all thought Mojang knew about it.
#2718 [22:49] <gv> ^
#2719 [22:50] <Marc_IRL> No, because the people experiencing the problem don't know what to do
#2720 [22:50] <Smanly> They come here.
#2721 [22:50] <Marc_IRL> Or else we get an email that says "files won
#2722 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: This is why I've been waiting for you to get in here, so that I have a guaranteed way of getting info to Mojang :)
#2723 [22:50] <Marc_IRL> "files wont download"
#2724 [22:50] <Smanly> And we tell them you knew XD
#2725 [22:50] <Marc_IRL> DiskDaemon: tweeeeeet me
#2726 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> will do
#2727 [22:50] <Marc_IRL> For people who have files not downloaded errors, we send them to the tech support page, where there is support for that issue... if you're premium.
#2728 [22:50] <DiskDaemon> err, in the future. You know now :)
#2729 [22:51] <Smanly> No, tweet him now. XD
#2730 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> When a mojang person tests the demo, get them to first remove their .minecraft files for the purposes of testing
#2731 [22:51] <Smanly> He'll forget.
#2732 [22:51] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: tweet you now?
#2733 [22:51] <Marc_IRL> No, I know about it now :p
#2734 [22:51] <gv> Hah
#2735 [22:51] <Smanly> I was kidding, I think.
#2736 [22:51] <Marc_IRL> In the future, when a large number of people have an issue that we don't know about, then let me know
#2737 [22:51] <Smanly> But wee need to make sure,
#2738 [22:51] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL This is currently caused by an oversight in Minecraft's code. Don't worry, it's an easy workaround. The problem is that you set your 'Open Chat' key to your left mouse button. Simply go into your Options menu, then Controls, then change the 'chat' key to some key on your keyboard.
#2739 [22:52] <Marc_IRL> Of course, you'd think that we WOULD know if a large number of people are having that problem
#2740 [22:52] <Smanly> we tought you knew!
#2741 [22:52] <Zeta_> So, what do i do now?
#2742 [22:52] <ShaRose> ELIS enough for you?
#2743 [22:52] <Marc_IRL> What's the problem in the code that causes it to crash if they set chat to left click?
#2744 [22:53] <Smanly> Who the hell... What do they mine with?
#2745 [22:53] <gv> Zeta_: I'd try the Intel driver download again.
#2746 [22:53] <DiskDaemon> I even reported it to the bug page, because mojang pays good attention to the bugs page. Hurrumph
#2747 [22:53] <ShaRose> Twofold: One, they it LETS you do that, and two the code doesn't see if it's actually a keyboard key and just checks the key
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#2749 [22:54] <ShaRose> really though, it's only a dumb fix
#2750 [22:54] <Marc_IRL> I set my left click to chat, it's not crashing :-/
#2751 [22:54] <ShaRose> creative only
#2752 [22:55] <Marc_IRL> I'm in creative, too
#2753 [22:55] <Marc_IRL> maybe it was fixed in the snapshot?
#2754 [22:55] <Smanly> I'm playing the demo. No items are being dropped.
#2755 [22:55] <ShaRose> possibly
#2756 [22:55] <Marc_IRL> I think I'm still on it
#2757 [22:55] <Marc_IRL> lemme downgrade real quick
#2758 [22:56] <Smanly> Have any of you tried the demo?
#2759 [22:57] <Marc_IRL> it works fine for me
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#2761 [22:57] <Marc_IRL> They mentioned they were using a mac. Possible that it only affects macs?
#2762 [22:57] <Zeta_> No matter how many times i try to update my drivers it stays at version 8.15.10.2086 and says its up to data
#2763 [22:57] <ShaRose> nah, one of those issues is on 7
#2764 [22:57] <ShaRose> and I'm running 8
#2765 [22:57] <ShaRose> (windows that is)
#2766 [22:57] <Smanly> What is it supposed to be like? Its really laggy/slow for me. and only like, 2 chunks loaded.
#2767 [22:58] <Smanly> or maybe 4
#2768 [22:58] <Marc_IRL> ShaRose: no repro, sending back to tester :p
#2769 [22:58] <ShaRose> I can repro on mcp and 1.3
#2770 [22:59] <Marc_IRL> 1.3, or 1.3.1?
#2771 [22:59] <Marc_IRL> wait, version would be in the pastebin. herp derp.
#2772 [22:59] <ShaRose> 1.3.1 ofc
#2773 [22:59] <Marc_IRL> yeah, both of them were on 1.3.1 too
#2774 [23:00] <Smanly> Wow, that took a VERY long time. I punched like 3 trees down. the the game restarted and a window came up telling me it lasts 5 days. the chat started to appear. wat.
#2775 [23:00] <Marc_IRL> Chat currently set to Button 1, it works just fine
#2776 [23:00] <gv> Zeta_: Hmm. The drivers available on intel's Site are newer
#2777 [23:00] <Smanly> Its seems to be fine now...
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#2779 [23:01] <Zeta_> Can you point me towards those drivers?
#2780 [23:01] <Smanly> Do you needhelp?
#2781 [23:01] <ShaRose> k, standard config. Creative world. Open menu, close menu. Open menu, press chat key, goes to search, select different tab, close. Change 'chat' to mouse1. (defaults will conflict, changed attack to 'k'). Tested Chat with Mouse1. Worked. Opened menu by accident while typing log, crash when attempted to exit :V
#2782 [23:01] <needhelp> hey i was wondering if anyone else was having problems with the minecraft demo loading? it says its done updating, but doesnt move at all
#2783 [23:01] <Smanly> See?
#2784 [23:02] <Smanly> This is when we tell them
#2785 [23:02] <Smanly> "Yes, its broken"
#2786 [23:02] <Marc_IRL> whoooooa crash
#2787 [23:02] <Smanly> "Mojang knows about it"
#2788 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> needhelp: Yes sorry - mojang are aware of the issue, and a fix should be out soon
#2789 [23:02] <gv> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3231&DwnldID=20841&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=Intel%c2%ae+Core%e2%84%a2+Processors+with+Intel%c2%ae+HD+Graphics&lang=eng
#2790 [23:03] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL did you repro it this time :V
#2791 [23:03] <needhelp> oh, ok, i was concerend it was my computer, ill check in a couple weeks later. Thanks!
#2792 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Is it worthwhile updating this page in the meantime? http://www.minecraft.net/demo
#2793 [23:03] <Smanly> Is there a list of bugs mojang actually knows about and is going to fix?
#2794 [23:03] <ShaRose> oh and Marc_IRL bug is there in 12w32a :V
#2795 [23:03] <Marc_IRL> Smanly: there's a bug list on the minecraft wiki that's been used for a while. They're working on creating a public bug tracker right now.
#2796 [23:04] <ShaRose> can't wait for that jira goodness
#2797 [23:04] <Smanly> But, as DiskDaemon said, he submitted the Demo bug.
#2798 [23:04] <Marc_IRL> The issue right now is that customer support and the devs don't talk at all
#2799 [23:04] <Smanly> Oh.
#2800 [23:04] <Marc_IRL> Or, maybe that's not an issue, if they get a bug tracker that goes to the devs
#2801 [23:04] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL how do you contact them?
#2802 [23:04] <Marc_IRL> Customer support can fix accounts, but not all of them even really play minecraft
#2803 [23:05] <needhelp> thanks for the help guys!
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#2805 [23:05] <DiskDaemon> Marc_IRL: Would you be able to keep us updated about progress on the demo situation?
#2806 [23:05] <Marc_IRL> I could email or skype them if I really wanted to. I have all of their contact info. We just don't have a system set up for me to forward bugs to them without annoying the crap out of them. That's why EvilSeph's bug tracker is important. I shouldn't have to forward customer service emails to the devs.
#2807 [23:06] <Smanly> Hmm
#2808 [23:06] <Marc_IRL> Company growing pains
#2809 [23:06] <Smanly> Is there a feature suggestion page on the wiki?
#2810 [23:06] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL was gonna say it's easy to email them (I submitted a bug report and fix to dinner a day or two ago and I know already he has it and it's fixed)
#2811 [23:06] <Marc_IRL> It'll get there, and it'll be functional
#2812 [23:06] <gv> Good luck with that.
#2813 [23:07] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, but they all have their own area of things they work on, and we get all kinds of emails sent to us about bugs. As I said, a proper reporting system is in the works.
#2814 [23:07] <ShaRose> it's actually a bug you guys might like fixed, Is Modded is actually going to work next snapshot
#2815 [23:07] <Smanly> Hmm?
#2816 [23:08] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, but customer support shouldn't have to deal with -bugs-
#2817 [23:08] <Smanly> Oh, in the crash report?
#2818 [23:08] <Marc_IRL> We do accounts and billing
#2819 [23:08] <ShaRose> yes
#2820 [23:08] <Marc_IRL> So, if it gets in, that's great, but it's probably only useful to the devs. I can barely read code, and I don't think our other guys can.
#2821 [23:09] <Smanly> Marc_IRL: Do you play minecraft though? XD
#2822 [23:09] <ShaRose> Marc_IRL you can always ask here :V
#2823 [23:09] <ShaRose> I have you stalked so if I see you talking about a bug I can look into it etc etc
#2824 [23:09] <Marc_IRL> Yeah, I play all of the time. I think I'm one of the few who plays regularly.
#2825 [23:09] <Smanly> Nice
#2826 [23:09] * ShaRose is actually playing skyrim as we speak
#2826 [23:09] <Smanly> Good to hear.
#2827 [23:09] <Marc_IRL> twitch.tv/marc_IRL :p
#2828 [23:11] <Smanly> I just thought of something... Instead of a hardcore mode play through, you could see how far you could get in the demo!
#2829 [23:11] <Smanly> Can you go to the end in the demo?
#2830 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> Oh bleh. Work in 5 hours. Night.
#2831 [23:12] <Smanly> Adios o/
#2832 [23:13] * zen told Tobias of the demo problems 3-4 days ago, obviously too busy to pass the info on
#2832 [23:13] <Marc_IRL> Did he respond to you?
#2833 [23:13] <zen> Yeah he was here
#2834 [23:14] <zen> He was asking about the skin servers and i had just informed someone that i wasn't working
#2835 [23:14] <Marc_IRL> And he responded, said it was going to be fixed, and a new snapshot is out now without the fix?
#2836 [23:14] <zen> Er not sure on that one, he only said he would look into it, but with all the server problems he probably forgot
#2837 [23:15] <Marc_IRL> I'm used to when people say that, it sounds all passive aggressive. But you're right, he has been busy with servers lately.
#2838 [23:15] <DiskDaemon> I don't think that the snapshot can fix the issue, because it's the launcher that's responsible for downloading the bin/ files, which is the root cause of the demo issue. And the snapshot to my knowledge isn't related to the launcher.
#2839 [23:16] <zen> If it was to happily download the libraries but not the jar we could probably just tell them to get the snapshot jar, but as it's everything that won't download it's more of a problem
#2840 [23:16] <Marc_IRL> Btw, the -100 crash... reproduced it a few times. Somehow only triggers when chat is set to button 1, you have text entered in the search tab, switch to another tab, then exit inventory.
#2841 [23:16] <Marc_IRL> So I'll send that to someone
#2842 [23:17] <Marc_IRL> oh, seph is online, because he's north america
#2843 [23:17] <DiskDaemon> Others have been instructing people to combine the 1.3 pre-release with downloaded lwjgl files to get the demo working. I don't want that sort of advice to continue. I want the problem fixed :)
#2844 [23:19] <Zeta_> it still didnt work
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#2846 [23:21] * zen returns back to what he was about to do, sleep.
#2846 [23:23] <TheNytangel> Marc_IRL: I love you too
#2847 [23:26] <Marc_IRL> EvilSeph says they still check the Minecraft wiki bugs list, and he's working on the public tracker
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#2849 [23:26] <Smanly> Nice
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#2852 [23:30] <PACMANFOREVER> minecraft wont start
#2853 [23:32] <Marc_IRL> Do people do that a lot? O_o
#2854 [23:32] <ShaRose> More than you would believe.
#2855 [23:33] <ShaRose> I've seen people join, say "can someone help me" and leave in under 10 seconds
#2856 [23:33] <ShaRose> I kid you not
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#2859 [23:34] <Marc_IRL> EvilSeph also says they're aware of the demo bug
#2860 [23:35] <warfar> hai
#2861 [23:35] <warfar> i need halp
#2862 [23:35] <Marc_IRL> Turns out I just wasn't. Which is the more okay of the two to not know.
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#2864 [23:35] <jessem2000> hi
#2865 [23:36] <DiskDaemon> I imagine that they're having issues of conscience, about whether to allow the full version of the game to be downloaded to non-premium users
#2866 [23:36] <warfar> when im on my friends server i am able to see others moving/use commands but after a second i cant use commands and after a minute i time out
#2867 [23:36] <warfar> we are using 1.2.5
#2868 [23:36] <Marc_IRL> There's got to be a way to address it though
#2869 [23:37] <jessem2000> how do i play on multiplayer
#2870 [23:37] <warfar> can somone please help me
#2871 [23:37] <warfar> -.-
#2872 [23:37] <jessem2000> help me.!!
#2873 [23:37] <jessem2000> help me.!!
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#2875 [23:38] <DiskDaemon> jes: dammit - gone before I can even tab-complete the name
#2876 [23:40] <Smanly> I swear I found a bug. Can someone see if they can replicate it. Its been happening for a while now, an I think I figured it. If you double click the 6th server in your list, it takes you back to the menu screen. every time. Only way it works is if I hit "join game"
#2877 [23:41] <Smanly> Also 12th server does it aswell.
#2878 [23:41] <Smanly> multiples of six i guess.
#2879 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> Smanly: 6th one seems to connect through with me
#2880 [23:42] <Smanly> Double clicking?
#2881 [23:42] <DiskDaemon> yep, double clicking
#2882 [23:42] <Smanly> Hmm
#2883 [23:42] <Smanly> Anyone else?
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#2885 [23:46] <Marc_IRL> I swear that happened to me yesterday
#2886 [23:47] <ShaRose> time to check it out etc
#2887 [23:47] <Marc_IRL> huh, wasn't able to reproduce it that time
#2888 [23:48] <Marc_IRL> But I was kicked out yesterday, trying to join a server, until finally I just direct connected
#2889 [23:54] * DiRTxTREME12 [DiRTxTREME12@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2890 [23:54] <DiRTxTREME12> hello?
#2891 [23:54] <DiRTxTREME12> ?
#2892 [23:54] <DiRTxTREME12> ?
#2893 [23:54] <DiRTxTREME12> ?
#2894 [23:54] <warfar> smanly
#2895 [23:54] <Smanly> Me?
#2896 [23:54] <warfar> yes
#2897 [23:55] <warfar> its becuase
#2898 [23:55] * Gilded_Knight [Gilded_Knight@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2899 [23:55] <warfar> you are hitting return to title
#2900 [23:55] <Smanly> Um, no.
#2901 [23:55] <warfar> its annoying
#2902 [23:55] <warfar> yes
#2903 [23:55] <warfar> it is
#2904 [23:55] <Smanly> What?
#2905 [23:55] <DiRTxTREME12> is there any helpers here?
#2906 [23:55] <warfar> sure
#2907 [23:55] * AwsomeG2 [AwsomeG2@notlogged] has joined #minecrafthelp
#2908 [23:55] <DiRTxTREME12> who?
#2909 [23:55] <Gilded_Knight> so i got a java error on the server i was on and i can't log back in how do i fix this
#2910 [23:56] <AwsomeG2> hi, im going to buy a server whats the recommended amount of dedicated memory?
#2911 [23:56] <warfar> well im asssuming the 6th server on the list is positioned next to return to title so you are hitting it
#2912 [23:56] <warfar> click join server
#2913 [23:56] <warfar> try it
#2914 [23:56] <Gilded_Knight> it stops...
#2915 [23:56] <warfar> awsome
#2916 [23:56] <AwsomeG2> yes?
#2917 [23:56] <warfar> bukkit/vanilla
#2918 [23:56] <warfar> plugins?
#2919 [23:56] <AwsomeG2> bukkit sorry
#2920 [23:56] <Gilded_Knight> vanilla
#2921 [23:56] <AwsomeG2> plugins preferably
#2922 [23:56] <Marc_IRL> I can't even see the sixth server on my list without scrolling down
#2923 [23:56] <warfar> how many players
#2924 [23:56] <warfar> MArc that is because of your gui scale
#2925 [23:56] <Smanly> When I double click, it sends me to the menu. Is I quickly go to the multiplayer menu I will get "communication error." If I was at the menu for a few second, it pings correctly, but I need to click "join server"
#2926 [23:57] <AwsomeG2> 3 for now but would like room for growth
#2927 [23:57] <warfar> smaly
#2928 [23:57] <warfar> i told you you are actually hitting return to title aswell
#2929 [23:57] <warfar> you have to cick joinserver
#2930 [23:57] <Marc_IRL> What is this return to title?
#2931 [23:57] <warfar> not really bug
#2932 [23:57] <DiRTxTREME12> I paid 25 euro for the premium account, i havent played 4 a while, but now with my new laptop, it says my accounts not premium? i cant pay again so how will i play online again?
#2933 [23:57] <warfar> when you are joining a server
#2934 [23:57] <Smanly> Um, how is it not a bug?
#2935 [23:57] <warfar> its just the way minecraft registers mous clicking
#2936 [23:58] <Smanly> I am clicking though the mulitplayer menu into the menu screen?
#2937 [23:58] <warfar> no
#2938 [23:58] <warfar> click direct connect
#2939 [23:58] <AwsomeG2> warfar, what amount of memory do you reccomend?
#2940 [23:58] <warfar> for ip type 01
#2941 [23:58] <warfar> how many players?
#2942 [23:58] <AwsomeG2> 3 but hopefully room for growth
#2943 [23:58] <warfar> 256-512 mb
#2944 [23:58] <AwsomeG2> alright thanks
#2945 [23:59] <AwsomeG2> thats with plugins to right?
#2946 [23:59] <warfar> wait
#2947 [23:59] <warfar> unless using multiverse
#2948 [23:59] <AwsomeG2> no not multiverse
#2949 [23:59] <warfar> yeah
#2950 [23:59] <warfar> 256-512
#2951 [23:59] <Smanly> Its still a bug, warfar.
#2952 [23:59] <AwsomeG2> sweet thanks
#2953 [23:59] <warfar> smanly
#2954 [23:59] <warfar> i mean cancel
#2955 [23:59] <Smanly> I know
#2956 [23:59] <Smanly> Still a bug.
#2957 [23:59] <warfar> it has been liek that
#2958 [23:59] <warfar> like*
#2959 [23:59] * DiRTxTREME12 [DiRTxTREME12@notlogged] has quit. (:Quit: Web client closed)
#2960 [23:59] <Smanly> Its has been a bug, I know.
#2961 [23:59] <Marc_IRL> I know what he's talking about. It happened to me yesterday, and I wasn't hitting the cancel button.