#1 [00:00] <DiskDaemon> tupeh: Download the launcher from minecraft.net and use that one
#2 [00:01] <GreyVulpine> IosefKoranison - Do you have any networking experience at all?
#3 [00:01] <tupeh> i do and it cant even open it for some odd reason, and the in browser game works once in a blue moon
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#5 [00:02] <IosefKoranison> I don't think so, no. I can plug things in and that sort of thing, but I don't know how to connect and disconnect the networks or what all the components mean.
#6 [00:02] <DiskDaemon> tupeh: You already have me puzzled, because you just finished saying "it opens fine but i cant click on anything to login"
#7 [00:03] <IosefKoranison> Terms, not components.
#8 [00:03] <IosefKoranison> Sorry, it's hot here.
#9 [00:04] <tupeh> my apologies, it was able to do that earlier but now can no longer even open.
#10 [00:04] <DiskDaemon> What happens instead?
#11 [00:05] <tupeh> it doesnt even open when i try to launch it
#12 [00:06] <DiskDaemon> Okay, delete that one, and download a fresh one
#13 [00:07] <tupeh> i tried already and same problem occured, even rebooted
#14 [00:08] <DiskDaemon> tupeh: Let's see if we can get an error report for it then. http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#15 [00:09] <GreyVulpine> IosefKoranison - What are you looking for, right now? Just a walkthrough on how to run a server at home? Or are you looking for advice on a hosting provider to look at for something offsite?
#16 [00:11] <tupeh> im thinking its an RAM problem bevause so much CPU is being used
#17 [00:11] <IosefKoranison> Well I wanted to set up a server for my friend and I to play on. But I didn't realize it involved all of this. And if there's potential security risks to my computer I would definitely prefer to learn how to do networking safely before I set up a server.
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#20 [00:31] <GreyVulpine> IosefKoranison - It would probably be best for one of us to walk you through it. Unfortunately, I need to be going here.
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#22 [00:32] <IosefKoranison> Ah. Well, tomorrow or Friday then?
#23 [00:34] <GreyVulpine> Stick around, come back tomorrow if you're free. There's a number of us who can walk you through it.
#24 [00:34] <IosefKoranison> Alright, I'll go ahead and do that then. I'm gonna be going in about a half an hour then myself.
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#26 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> IosefKoranison: Windows, or Linux server?
#27 [00:36] <DopeGhoti> the latter would be inherently more secure.
#28 [00:37] <IosefKoranison> Windows.
#29 [00:38] <DopeGhoti> Hrm. Well, in a nutshell, what you're looking at doing is running a network application in userspace, so in theory, if an exploit is discovered, it could be used to access anything that the user running the server could access.
#30 [00:39] <IosefKoranison> So basically, if they find a way in they would be able to access my computer in all the ways I can?
#31 [00:43] <GreyVulpine> In the worst possible case, that is a possibility.
#32 [00:44] <IosefKoranison> Yeah, I definitely don't want that.
#33 [00:44] <GreyVulpine> If set up correctly, a normal server would have minimal security concerns. It's not until you start looking into additional modifications, other plugins, database support, and other such things that you need to worry about such things.
#34 [00:45] <GreyVulpine> Plugins and third party modifications, add additional functionality that many server owners love. They are also a source of potential risk, since they're not vetted by Mojang.
#35 [00:46] <IosefKoranison> Well, all I want to do is make a basic server so my friend and I can play together. I think there might be a point when he wants to use the "Tekkit" mod which makes the game more industrial or something. But I'm not sure how that would be done. I haven't used any mods yet.
#36 [00:46] <GreyVulpine> You use such things at your own risk. MySQL, a powerful and frequently used database system, can be quite risky if set up wrong
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#38 [00:47] <GreyVulpine> Tekkit is a mod package, which packages a third-party modification of the server software called bukkit, with many popular mods.
#39 [00:47] <DopeGhoti> IosefKoranison: what you probably want to do, is this (which many have reported success with):
#40 [00:47] <DopeGhoti> install a lightweight Server edition of Linux onto a virtual machine
#41 [00:48] <DopeGhoti> run the Minecraft server from there. Then, the worst case scenario is that VM getting hosed
#42 [00:48] <IosefKoranison> That sounds good to me. But how do I get a virtual machine?
#43 [00:49] <DopeGhoti> ?find IosefKoranison download virtualbox
#44 [00:49] <VoxelHead> IosefKoranison, http://is.gd/Ku55mU
#45 [00:49] <IosefKoranison> Huh?
#46 [00:50] <DopeGhoti> IosefKoranison: Vox just gave you a link from which you will be able to get to the download page for VirtualBox, which is a free program you can use to create a virtual machine
#47 [00:50] <IosefKoranison> Ohh, awesome.
#48 [00:50] <IosefKoranison> Lol ltgtfy XD
#49 [00:51] <IosefKoranison> Okay there are a lot of links here. Do I just click on the one that says for WIndows hosts?
#50 [00:53] <DopeGhoti> Yes, since you will be running VirtualBox on Windows
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#53 [00:56] <IosefKoranison> It says installing this will reset my network connection and disconnect me from the network temporarily. Why does it do that?
#54 [00:56] <DopeGhoti> Because it creates new virtual NICs so that your virtual machines can get to the internet.
#55 [00:56] <DopeGhoti> (and more importantly in your case, vice versa)
#56 [00:57] <IosefKoranison> What's an NIC?
#57 [00:58] <DopeGhoti> ?? NIC
#58 [00:58] <DopeGhoti> Network Interface Card
#59 [00:58] <DopeGhoti> ??+ NIC|Network Interface Card
#60 [00:59] <IosefKoranison> Ah.
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#63 [01:01] <IosefKoranison> Would you like to install this device software "Oracle Corporation Universal Serial Bus..."
#64 [01:01] <IosefKoranison> I assume just to say install.
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#66 [01:02] <DopeGhoti> Yeah, virtual machine software does a fair bit of entwining itself with your systems, so that your VMs can access your network, or USB devices, or what have you, if so configured
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#69 [01:05] <IronGanon> And I'm back. The program is up, I'll click new to create a virtual machine.
#70 [01:06] <IronGanon> OS would be Linux you said. What version of Linux?
#71 [01:06] * Disori|off is now known as :Disori
#72 [01:06] <DopeGhoti> I would suggest Ubuntu Server
#73 [01:07] <IronGanon> What's a good amount of memory in mb to allot?
#74 [01:08] <DopeGhoti> Well, the Minecraft server needs 1GB, so I'd allocate between 1.25 and 1.5GB
#75 [01:09] <IronGanon> 1.5 then. What should I do for the hard disk?
#76 [01:09] <DopeGhoti> 10GB should be enough. If you're strapped for space, you can do 5
#77 [01:10] <IronGanon> I have tons of hard drive space. That shouldn't be an issue.
#78 [01:11] <IronGanon> There's four options for the virtual Hard Drive.
#79 [01:12] <DopeGhoti> use VDI
#80 [01:12] <DopeGhoti> (Dynamically allocated)
#81 [01:13] <IronGanon> Name:
#82 [01:13] <IronGanon> Herpaderp
#83 [01:13] <IronGanon> OS Type:
#84 [01:13] <IronGanon> Ubuntu
#85 [01:13] <IronGanon> Base Memory:
#86 [01:13] <IronGanon> 1500 MB
#87 [01:13] <IronGanon> Start-up Disk:
#88 [01:13] <IronGanon> Herpaderp.vdi (Normal, 10.00 GB)
#89 [01:13] <DopeGhoti> Looks good, but please don't flood the channel
#90 [01:13] <IronGanon> So is that right?
#91 [01:14] <IronGanon> Sorry, I didn't know it would flood like that.
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#93 [01:14] <DopeGhoti> ⋯-=≡★ ♪ The More You Know… ♫
#94 [01:14] <IronGanon> XD
#95 [01:14] <IronGanon> Alright so I've got the machine set up. Now what?
#96 [01:15] <IronGanon> By the way, thank you very much for all the help so far. You guys are great.
#97 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> okay. I imagine you don't already have the Ubuntu install CD image?
#98 [01:15] <DopeGhoti> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
#99 [01:17] <IronGanon> I have no idea how to do anything with Linux. I clicked on the link, what do I do from there?
#100 [01:18] <DopeGhoti> ok, set the drop-down to '32-bit' and click the download button
#101 [01:18] <DopeGhoti> that'll start downloading an .ISO file
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#103 [01:19] <DopeGhoti> that ISO is an image if the Ubuntu Server installation CD
#104 [01:19] <DopeGhoti> er, of rather,
#105 [01:19] <DopeGhoti> if memory serves, it'll be about 500MB or so
#106 [01:20] <IronGanon> Yep, 673 MB
#107 [01:20] <IronGanon> It's still downloading.
#108 [01:21] * DopeGhoti nods
#108 [01:22] <DopeGhoti> once it's done, tell VirtualBox to start your virtual machine, and I think it will ask you for that ISO image; if not, you'll want to go into the settings, and for the CD drive, load that ISO file.
#109 [01:22] <IronGanon> Do I need to unzip the iso file somewhere?
#110 [01:23] <DopeGhoti> nope
#111 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> (if, later on, you wanted to install Ubuntu onto an actual, physical comptuer, you would use a program to burn that ISO "image" to a disk. it's essentially a snapshot of what the disk looks like to a CD drive)
#112 [01:25] <IronGanon> When it asks me for the image or if I have to go and manually load it, will it have me get the file from wherever I download it?
#113 [01:25] <DopeGhoti> you'll have to tell VirtualBox where you put the file.
#114 [01:26] <IronGanon> Alright. So it will let me do that, right?
#115 [01:26] <DopeGhoti> yep
#116 [01:26] * IronGanon pokes the download meter with a stick
#116 [01:26] <IronGanon> It's so slow. :c
#117 [01:28] <IronGanon> If only I could have like...10 gigabits per second for my internet speed.
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#119 [01:28] <xales> ._.
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#121 [01:29] <IronGanon> 200MB downloaded.
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#123 [01:32] <IronGanon> At least I have these videos to watch. Yogscraft. 8D
#124 [01:32] <DopeGhoti> heh. I prefer FarLands or Bust
#125 [01:33] <IronGanon> Haven't seen them. This is just them doing the Tekkit mod and making a Jaffa Cake factory.
#126 [01:33] <IronGanon> My friend linked me, the one I'm going to play with.
#127 [01:34] <zen> Every kid watches yogscast ._.
#128 [01:35] <IronGanon> I remember there being some song they did. Or something, a digging song.
#129 [01:35] <zen> er theres a cover of dynamite, called TNT
#130 [01:36] <IronGanon> No that was CaptainSparklez.
#131 [01:36] <zen> yeah, i have no clue about yogscast, they irritate me,
#132 [01:37] <IronGanon> I'm going to be talking in a British accent for weeks.
#133 [01:37] <zen> Lol, I am british, kinda hard for me not too
#134 [01:38] <IronGanon> XD
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#136 [01:39] <IronGanon> ALmost 400MB downloaded.
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#140 [01:47] <Fideman> hello i need help
#141 [01:47] <Fideman> any one on
#142 [01:48] <JKL> Fideman: please ask
#143 [01:48] <Fideman> im haveing problems with connecting to mincraft.net
#144 [01:48] <Fideman> may i have help plz
#145 [01:49] <xales> Fideman: Please be more specific.
#146 [01:49] <xales> Fideman: I assume the problem is that when you try to log in to Minecraft, it says "could not connect to minecraft.net"?
#147 [01:49] <Fideman> when i go to minecraft.net all it says is onlinne
#148 [01:49] <Fideman> online
#149 [01:50] <Fideman> its a white screen in the top raght corner it says online
#150 [01:51] <Fideman> hello?
#151 [01:52] <xales> Hi. Please be patient, it can take a minute to get a response.
#152 [01:52] <xales> First of all, did you purchase Minecraft?
#153 [01:53] <Fideman> yes
#154 [01:54] <xales> Okay. Have you been able to play it before?
#155 [01:55] <Fideman> yes but whan i try to go to minecraft.net it whont allow me
#156 [01:56] <JKL> what is it?
#157 [01:57] <xales> The word is "won't"
#158 [01:57] <xales> There is no 'h' in it.
#159 [01:57] <xales> Anyway.
#160 [01:57] <xales> When did this problem start happening?
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#162 [01:59] <Fideman> dont no just got internet just last week and started playing minecraft but win i went to website it won't let me
#163 [02:00] <xales> ??> Fideman win/hosts
#164 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Fideman: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#165 [02:00] <VoxelHead> Fideman: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
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#167 [02:02] <IronGanon> I have the virtual machine up and running. What's next?
#168 [02:02] <Fideman> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
#169 [02:03] <xales> Fideman: Please follow the instructions exactly.
#170 [02:03] <xales> Go to http://pastebin.com/ and paste the text in the box there.
#171 [02:03] <xales> Click Submit, and it will send you to a new page.
#172 [02:03] <xales> Copy the link to it, and paste that link here.
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#174 [02:05] <Fideman> http://pastebin.com/fmeY3Pd5
#175 [02:05] <IronGanon> Dopeghoti are you still around?
#176 [02:06] <xales> Fideman: Okay; first of all: what username did you use to purchase Minecraft?
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#178 [02:06] <Fideman> Fideman
#179 [02:07] <xales> Okay.
#180 [02:07] <xales> The problem you are having is that you tried to use a pirated/illegal copy of Minecraft, which you downloaded from somewhere other than minecraft.net
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#183 [02:08] <xales> Here's what you need to do:
#184 [02:08] <xales> Go to the Start Menu, then go to All Programs, Accessories, and *right-click* on Notepad. Select "Run as Administrator"
#185 [02:08] <xales> Let me know once you have done that, and a new Notepad window has appeared.
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#187 [02:09] <Fideman> ok now what
#188 [02:10] <xales> Now, in the new Notepad window, click File -> Open
#189 [02:10] <Fideman> yes
#190 [02:10] <xales> Go to Computer, then C:, then Windows, Then System32, then drivers, then etc
#191 [02:11] <xales> Once you're in the folder called "etc" you'll see the hosts file again.
#192 [02:11] <xales> Open it.
#193 [02:11] <xales> The same file should appear in the new Notepad window.
#194 [02:11] <xales> Once you've done that, delete everything in the file.
#195 [02:11] <xales> Then, type into it the following, not including the quotes:
#196 [02:11] <xales> "127.0.0.1 localhost"
#197 [02:12] <xales> Once you've done that, save it.
#198 [02:12] <xales> Let me know once you have done that.
#199 [02:12] <Fideman> there is nothing in the ect file?
#200 [02:12] <xales> There is.
#201 [02:12] <xales> You may need to select "All Files" under "File type"
#202 [02:12] <Fideman> but there is nothing in there i swear
#203 [02:13] <Fideman> oh ok i see
#204 [02:14] <Fideman> ok i did
#205 [02:14] <IronGanon> Ales, are you able to help me as well?
#206 [02:14] <xales> IronGanon: What do you need help with?
#207 [02:14] <xales> Fideman: You replaced the contents and saved the file?
#208 [02:15] <Fideman> yes do i save it
#209 [02:15] <IronGanon> Well I was working on setting up a minecraft server on a virtual machine. Dopeghoti was helping me.
#210 [02:16] <xales> Yes, once you have made it read "127.0.0.1 localhost" you should save it.
#211 [02:16] <Fideman> ok i did
#212 [02:16] <xales> Fideman: Are you able to go to minecraft.net now?
#213 [02:16] <IronGanon> I have the virtual machine up and running, but I don't know the next step.
#214 [02:16] <Fideman> OMG I LOVE SO MUCH RIGHT NOW
#215 [02:16] <xales> IronGanon: Hmm. I'd be happy to help, but that could take a while and I have to leave shortly, unfortunately. However, if you're around tomorrow, I could help.
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#217 [02:17] <Fideman> i ow u one ser
#218 [02:17] <IronGanon> Alright. I can wait until tomorrow.
#219 [02:19] <Fideman> hey why does it say jeb?
#220 [02:19] <xales> Fideman: Jens, known as jeb_, is the current lead developer of Minecraft.
#221 [02:20] <Fideman> what happened to notch
#222 [02:20] <xales> Notch stopped working on Minecraft to work on another project
#223 [02:20] <Fideman> :( im sad now
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#225 [02:20] <xales> ...Why would you even care?
#226 [02:21] <IronGanon> brb
#227 [02:21] <Fideman> because notch is the reason i buyed the game
#228 [02:21] <xales> ...
#229 [02:22] <xales> The only reason you know that name is because he "made Minecraft"
#230 [02:22] <xales> He isn't the reason you bought the game, saying that is insane.
#231 [02:22] <Fideman> yea thats the point
#232 [02:22] <zen> He doesn't ignore it either, i'm sure he keeps a close eye on the changes made
#233 [02:22] <DopeGhoti> IronGanon: hello
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#235 [02:22] <xales> Fideman: Regardless of who does or doesn't develop it, it's still the same game. Go play it. ._.
#236 [02:23] <bloodstone> why must I reboot my pc before minecraft will load properly? when I don't, it freezes
#237 [02:23] <Fideman> im doing that now lol
#238 [02:23] <xales> bloodstone: How does it fail to load if you don't?
#239 [02:23] <Fideman> bye and thanks again
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#241 [02:24] <bloodstone> it just freezes after the window displays your choices to enter the game (after logging in)
#242 [02:24] <DopeGhoti> ??> bloodstone win/profile
#243 [02:24] <VoxelHead> bloodstone: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#244 [02:24] <VoxelHead> bloodstone: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#245 [02:25] <bloodstone> Voxe1Head, thanks, I'll try that and get back
#246 [02:25] <VoxelHead> good luck
#247 [02:26] <IronGanon> Hey Dope, welcome back.
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#250 [02:28] <DopeGhoti> Danke
#251 [02:28] <IronGanon> Bitte.
#252 [02:28] <DopeGhoti> so, have you got your server OS installed?
#253 [02:28] <IronGanon> Yeah. The vm is running.
#254 [02:29] <DopeGhoti> okay, brilliant
#255 [02:29] <IronGanon> So what's next?
#256 [02:29] <DopeGhoti> now, you'll want to install some helpful tools, so run this command: `sudo apt-get install elinks screen wget`
#257 [02:29] <IronGanon> How do I run that command?
#258 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> elinks is a web browser, screen is, well, awesome, and wget is a handy downloading program that's probably actually already installed.
#259 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> the VM is running.. are you logged in?
#260 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> if not, log in with the user and password you made during the installation
#261 [02:30] <DopeGhoti> then, just type that command in (:
#262 [02:33] <IronGanon> I don't think I had it all the way set up. Hmm...
#263 [02:33] <IronGanon> It's listing a bunch of languages.
#264 [02:34] <DopeGhoti> When you first booted the VM with the ISO file loaded into the VM's CD drive, it should have started the install process to get Linux installed on your.. aah, you're at that point
#265 [02:34] <DopeGhoti> all right, use the arrow keys to pick the language of your choosing, and press Enter (:
#266 [02:34] <DopeGhoti> From here forward, it's fairly self-explanatory
#267 [02:35] <IronGanon> Well when I pressed enter on Install Ubuntu Server it froze up on me.
#268 [02:35] <IronGanon> It's listing languages again, but the appearance is different.
#269 [02:35] <DopeGhoti> did it freeze up, or is it reading the 'CD'? (the icons on the bottom of the window indicate when the virtual drives are being read from and written to)
#270 [02:36] <IronGanon> There we go.
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#272 [02:37] <IronGanon> The last time I was on this screen it wouldn't work. But nw it is.
#273 [02:37] <IronGanon> now*
#274 [02:38] <IronGanon> And now it's just a blank purple screen.
#275 [02:38] <IronGanon> There we are, I guess it's just running somewhat slow.
#276 [02:39] <IronGanon> How will I know when it's done?
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#278 [02:42] <IronGanon> It's asking me for my name...if someone gets access to this machine wouldn't that be a bad thing?
#279 [02:43] <xales> If someone gets access to it, your name is the least of your concerns.
#280 [02:43] <xales> (Not that that is very likely to happen, anyway)
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#283 [02:44] <zen> For those who were about last night, i got into uni :2
#284 [02:44] <zen> :3
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#287 [02:45] <DopeGhoti> zen: congrats
#288 [02:46] <zen> Thankyou :)
#289 [02:46] <IronGanon> Partitioning a desk.
#290 [02:46] <IronGanon> disc.
#291 [02:46] <IronGanon> Wow.
#292 [02:47] <IronGanon> It's talking about partitioning a disc. I don't really know what that means.
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#294 [02:49] <zen> Ahh, a disk partition is taking one physical hard drive and making act as 2 separate drives, it's just a method of splinting files up, especially when two operating systems are being installed
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#296 [02:51] <IronGanon> Hmm. I don't want to do this process wrong or whatever. What do I do for all this?
#297 [02:51] * xales tags DopeGhoti in
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#300 [03:01] <IronGanon> Dope, how should I do the partitioning thing?
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#304 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> IronGanon: since it's a VM, just accept the defaults
#305 [03:03] <DopeGhoti> one of the options should be 'use the whole disk for Linux'
#306 [03:05] <IronGanon> There's four options. (Guided - use entire disk) (Same as the first but it also says and set up LVM) (Same as the first but it says and set up encrypted LVM) and then Manual.
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#309 [03:23] <DopeGhoti> go for 'Guided - use entire disk', and accept the defaults
#310 [03:23] <DopeGhoti> sorry for the slow answer, I have eleventeen irons in the fire here
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#312 [03:26] <IronGanon> No worries dude. I figured you were probably busy. I have other things I can do while I wait. XD
#313 [03:31] <DopeGhoti> good deal.
#314 [03:32] <IronGanon> I found a website with buttons you can click to play various popular sounds like Darth Vader's noo or the YEAAHHH from CSI.
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#316 [03:33] <Cantaloupe> hello ?
#317 [03:34] <Cantaloupe> anyone ? : |
#318 [03:34] <DopeGhoti> yes?
#319 [03:34] <Cantaloupe> i just bought minecraft the other day
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#321 [03:34] <Cantaloupe> and everytime i play the game i always got DC
#322 [03:35] <DopeGhoti> 'got DC'?
#323 [03:35] <Cantaloupe> or the game is just automatically turn off
#324 [03:35] <Cantaloupe> everytime i log in the game
#325 [03:35] <DopeGhoti> do you get any error messages or anything?
#326 [03:36] <Cantaloupe> nothing
#327 [03:36] <DiskDaemon> DisConnection I presume
#328 [03:36] <Cantaloupe> its like
#329 [03:36] <Cantaloupe> everytime i log in in game
#330 [03:36] <Cantaloupe> the launcher is automatically close
#331 [03:36] <Cantaloupe> and didnt say any error or something
#332 [03:36] <DopeGhoti> Are you using any mods, texture packs, anything?
#333 [03:36] <Cantaloupe> nope
#334 [03:36] <DopeGhoti> ?? specs
#335 [03:36] <VoxelHead> specs: Please tell us, to the best of your knowledge and ability, the following: Your computer's make and model, which operating system you are using (including whether it is 32- or 64-bit), how much RAM your computer has, which GPU your computer has, and which version of Java you have installed.
#336 [03:37] <Cantaloupe> my PC is aurora r4
#337 [03:37] <Cantaloupe> wait let me check the specs
#338 [03:37] <Cantaloupe> oh yeah i got java 32 bit
#339 [03:37] <Cantaloupe> how should i make it to 64 ?
#340 [03:38] <DopeGhoti> well, you first need to be running a 64-bit OS
#341 [03:38] <DopeGhoti> but we'll need the rest of your specs (GPU, et al.) also, please.
#342 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> would a dxdiag report provide that kind of information more easily?
#343 [03:38] <DiskDaemon> ??> Cantaloupe win/dxdiag
#344 [03:38] <VoxelHead> Cantaloupe: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#345 [03:38] <VoxelHead> Cantaloupe: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#346 [03:39] <Cantaloupe> i figure it out .
#347 [03:39] <Cantaloupe> i need a 64 bit java thing
#348 [03:39] <DopeGhoti> ??> Cantaloupe java/1.6
#349 [03:39] <Cantaloupe> and i have OS : win7 64 bit
#350 [03:39] <VoxelHead> Cantaloupe: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#351 [03:40] <Cantaloupe> nice . thanks
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#353 [03:44] <IronGanon> I don't need to use a proxy for the VM, right?
#354 [03:44] <DopeGhoti> correct
#355 [03:45] <Aspirin> hello. My MC launcher can't connect to minecraft.net. Login works normally before. But I can login to minecraft.net web. I migrated MC account few days ago. Mojang servers are running. Firewall switched off. I have tried several Java versions including V6 and V7. All 64 bit. Other internet communicating sw works (Skype, Dropbox, Outlook, Firefox). I watched network communication with Wireshark but I dont understand packets. My P
#356 [03:46] <zack6849> Aspirin: are you using your email to log in?
#357 [03:46] <Aspirin> MC java has 2 GB for run. Powerfull for MC in FullHD and FAR visibility. Help please ... :-(
#358 [03:46] <zack6849> i think you need to use an email if the account has been migrated
#359 [03:46] <Aspirin> I have tried email and name. neither works.
#360 [03:46] <Aspirin> Doesnt work...
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#362 [03:47] <zack6849> odd
#363 [03:47] <DopeGhoti> 'FullHD'?
#364 [03:47] <DopeGhoti> explain.
#365 [03:47] <zack6849> and it works fin on login?
#366 [03:47] <zack6849> >full hd
#367 [03:47] <zack6849> >minecraft
#368 [03:47] <zack6849> wat.jpg
#369 [03:47] <Aspirin> I can run Minecraft in FullHD resolution without problems. I.e. my PC is powerfull enough.
#370 [03:47] <Thrae> Aspirin: Are you using any modified version of the Minecraft client or launcher?
#371 [03:47] <Aspirin> No.
#372 [03:48] <Aspirin> Ermm.I use modded client...
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#374 [03:48] <Aspirin> But launcher is original.
#375 [03:48] <DopeGhoti> ?? mods
#376 [03:48] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#377 [03:48] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#378 [03:48] <Thrae> And I think he means 1080p, which is "FullHD"
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#380 [03:48] <Aspirin> ZAN minimaps, MAcro mode. Convenient inventory. HDpatcher.
#381 [03:49] <Thrae> Aspirin: Try using a non-modded (vanilla) version of Minecraft and see if that works.
#382 [03:49] <Aspirin> But if I replace minecraft.jar by not modded version the problem persists.
#383 [03:50] <Aspirin> I have tried it. I totally deleted ".minecraft" folder and minecraft.exe and started from scratch. The same problem... :-(
#384 [03:50] <IronGanon> IT's asking me which software I want to install.
#385 [03:50] <Aspirin> Can be my account stolen if I can login to MC web and my account ?
#386 [03:51] <DopeGhoti> IronGanon: just go with the defaults
#387 [03:51] <DopeGhoti> ??> Aspirin win/profile
#388 [03:51] <VoxelHead> Aspirin: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#389 [03:51] <Thrae> Aspirin: Try rebooting into Safe Mode and see if you can at least connect and redownload Minecraft (if it does let you connect, you'll get a video card error, this is fine as you're in Safe Mode) -- http://www.computerhope.com/issues/chsafe.htm
#390 [03:51] <VoxelHead> Aspirin: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#391 [03:52] <IronGanon> THere isn't a default that I can see. It has a list of things for me to choose from .
#392 [03:52] <Thrae> If Safe Mode works, it's a program running after normal boot. Also, what DopeGhoti suggested.
#393 [03:52] <Aspirin> ok, I'll be back in a while...
#394 [03:53] <Thrae> Aspirin: Make sure to select "Safe Mode With Networking" by the way.
#395 [03:53] <Aspirin> ye :)
#396 [03:53] <Thrae> But I'd try VoxelHead's solution first.
#397 [03:53] <DopeGhoti> IronGanon: just Next your way along
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#400 [03:55] <IronGanon> But which software do I choose? It says only the core of the system is installed and to tune the system to my needs I can choose to install one or more of the following software. There's a bunch of server types, a "PostgreSQL database" a VM host and a manual package selecting.
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#404 [03:56] <AG_Clinton> Just install core.
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#411 [04:07] <IronGanon> How do I just install the core? It won't let me proceed without selecting something to install.
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#417 [04:30] <Aspirin> hi, Im back. New windows account - the same problem MC cant connect to minecraft.net. Safe mod - MC can connect and download packages, ends with video drivers error.
#418 [04:31] <Aspirin> so its something wrong with Windows
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#420 [04:45] <IronGanon> Is there nobody here right now, then?
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#424 [04:50] <blmjos> Unfortunatly, when I try and download minecraft, it asks me to save it, so I do, then it asks me to retry the download again as it didnt work. I have tried this around 5 times now and im really confused. I have also looked at my download page and it says it has done a partial download. I would be very greatful if someone would help, thankyou.
#425 [04:50] <blmjos> Unfortunatly, when I try and download minecraft, it asks me to save it, so I do, then it asks me to retry the download again as it didnt work. I have tried this around 5 times now and im really confused. I have also looked at my download page and it says it has done a partial download. I would be very greatful if someone would help, thankyou.
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#455 [06:03] <powerbull> I have just installed my own minecraft-server. Is there a way/command to remove fog/rain etc?
#456 [06:03] <powerbull> Im interested in just sun, and good view.
#457 [06:04] <Calinou> /toggledownfall
#458 [06:04] <Calinou> (you need op access: op yourself in console using "op yourname")
#459 [06:04] <powerbull> ok, I will try! thnx!
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#462 [06:17] <Aspirin> Does anybody know what wi ndows part can interfere with minecraft.net login ?
#463 [06:18] <DiskDaemon> java, networking, hard drive, memory, processes, there's quite the gamut
#464 [06:19] <Aspirin> :-(
#465 [06:19] <Aspirin> I know of course. Im asking if anybody know something specific that blocks minecraft login...
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#467 [06:20] <DiskDaemon> What are the details of the error message?
#468 [06:21] <Aspirin> "Cant connect to minecraft.net"
#469 [06:21] <Aspirin> MC launcher cannot connect. Its the same for every windows account. But it can connect in safe mode.
#470 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> Okay, there can be two main reasons for that. Does the bottom of the launcher lave a black background, or a dirt background?
#471 [06:22] <DiskDaemon> And, does the updated news appear in the upper part of the launcher, or is ther HTML code there instad
#472 [06:23] <DiskDaemon> *instead
#473 [06:23] <Aspirin> updates news appears normally. Background is dirt.
#474 [06:23] <DiskDaemon> that's good
#475 [06:24] <DiskDaemon> Other reasons can include things like the time/date being incorrect (relating to bad security certificate generation)
#476 [06:24] <Aspirin> it seems something is wrong with secure internet connections
#477 [06:25] <Aspirin> Minecraft.net webpage - central video frame - error "sec_error_reused_issuer_and_serial"
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#479 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> this may help - http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Certificate contains the same serial number as another certificate
#480 [06:34] <DiskDaemon> err, http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Certificate%20contains%20the%20same%20serial%20number%20as%20another%20certificate
#481 [06:35] <DiskDaemon> and he's gone, nuts.
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#483 [07:00] <zimk> ok so i deleted my meta-inf file cause some mod thing told me to and now my mincraft wont work, is there a way to delete it completely from my computer and reinstall it? or what should i do?
#484 [07:00] <Andrio> zimk, force update.
#485 [07:00] <DiskDaemon> ?? win/reinst
#486 [07:00] <zimk> how do i do that?
#487 [07:00] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#488 [07:00] <VoxelHead> win/reinst: To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#489 [07:00] <Andrio> Or that.
#490 [07:01] <DiskDaemon> The reinstall is a more extreme measure though
#491 [07:01] <DiskDaemon> ?? forceupdate
#492 [07:01] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#493 [07:01] <VoxelHead> forceupdate: To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#494 [07:04] <zimk> Omigosh!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY GOODNESS I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY I WAS FREAKING OUT!!! THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH!!!
#495 [07:05] <Necrodoom> careful, bots may hear you
#496 [07:05] <Necrodoom> and tear your voice out
#497 [07:05] <Andrio> zimk, I'd also recommend making a backup copy of your minecraft.jar before you put mods in it.
#498 [07:06] <zimk> ok ummm how do i do THAT??
#499 [07:06] <Necrodoom> copy minecraft.jar
#500 [07:06] <Necrodoom> save somewhere else
#501 [07:06] <Andrio> I have mine in the same folder; it doesn't matter.
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#503 [07:06] <zimk> oh, thats it?? oh well thats easy ok thanks
#504 [07:09] <zimk> ok thanks for everything you guys!!
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#543 [09:18] <NinjaKirby> "Apple claims that some users mistakenly bought Samsung tablets believing they were iPads", I refuse to believe anyone is that stupid.
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#546 [09:20] <NinjaKirby> The product box is either going to say, Samsung Galaxy, or Apple iPad, jesus pogo sticks
#547 [09:20] <NinjaKirby> I hope Apple crash and burns in court
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#550 [09:21] <Ghasran> Hi, I was wondering if anyone else can't purchase the game because the form won't allow me to select a payment method?
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#553 [09:26] <NinjaKirby> Ghasran, tried using a different web browser? Unlikely, but I wonder if it's a rendering problem
#554 [09:27] <Ghasran> Yeah, tried it in both Chrome and IE... I guess I could also try FF, but I'm not expecting any other results
#555 [09:28] <NinjaKirby> Aye, two should be plentiful to rule it out, heh
#556 [09:28] <NinjaKirby> I haven't had to purchase MC in like, years, do you have to click classic Radio buttons? Are options greyed out or something?
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#558 [09:31] <Ghasran> This is what I see: http://imgur.com/HiZVv
#559 [09:32] <Ghasran> It's a cutout with in the background my Country selection, then the grid of poorly aligned payment methods and the button in the bottom. The popup is the error message I'm getting.
#560 [09:33] <Calinou> click the payment method logo?
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#562 [09:33] <NinjaKirby> Looking pretty glitched out thar O_o
#563 [09:34] <Ghasran> Tried to click everywhere, also tried tabbing my way to radiobuttons that "might" be there (which doesn't seem to be the case when looking at the source code)
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#565 [09:42] <Calinou> :/
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#567 [09:47] <Ghasran> When opening Chrome's JavaScript console, I'm getting an Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token ILLEGAL... *sigh* hope they notice this soon :)
#568 [09:48] <Ghasran> I would mail the dev's but they're only going through the mails sent on 25th May right now, so that's kind of pointless :)
#569 [09:49] <Ghasran> Could anyone navigate to this page and tell me they're getting the same messed up result? http://www.minecraft.net/store/game
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#571 [09:50] <Calinou> better do it, so they'll recieve the mail one day
#572 [09:51] <Ghasran> I'm guessing they'll notice pretty soon when the bucks stop rolling in :p
#573 [09:52] <Calinou> lol, yeah
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#575 [09:55] <Ghasran> Almost seems to be a deliberate attempt at stalling their income, look at their .js file: http://www.minecraft.net/javascripts/main.js?b=b_455
#576 [09:55] <Ghasran> Maybe they got hacked :)
#577 [09:57] <Necrodoom> i dont see the problem
#578 [09:57] <Necrodoom> firefox here
#579 [09:57] <Fishfish0001> I see no issue eithe
#580 [09:58] <Fishfish0001> And Im not sure what the js file is supposed to proove
#581 [09:59] <Ghasran> Wait, Fish: do you also see a bunch of jibberish in the js file at the end? Or is it all clean code right up to the end of it?
#582 [10:00] <Necrodoom> 'image':"Jinx-Women-Powered_By_Redstone.png",
#583 [10:00] <Fishfish0001> The js file looks fine to me...
#584 [10:00] <Fishfish0001> Pastebin what you see
#585 [10:00] <Ghasran> I'll try flushing my cache then
#586 [10:02] <Ghasran> http://pastebin.com/Czh9dcSi
#587 [10:02] <Ghasran> just pasted the updateTotalSum method
#588 [10:02] <Fishfish0001> Er that looks like an issue on your end
#589 [10:03] <Ghasran> Clearing cache now, could be that I get disconnected
#590 [10:03] <Fishfish0001> Some type of Encoding issue on your end
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#592 [10:06] <StRubiko> Hi, how can i change security questions?
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#594 [10:07] <tukker101> why cant i get the verification key in my e mail i even checked my spam box and nothing
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#596 [10:08] <StRubiko> please help :(
#597 [10:08] <tukker101> pleeeeeasssse
#598 [10:10] <tukker101> why is the verification code not anywhere in my email
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#600 [10:11] <tukker101> so much for the help line lol
#601 [10:12] <Morrolan> StRubiko: Doesn't seem as if you could change it, it offers me to change password, e-mail and whatnot, but not security questions.
#602 [10:13] <Morrolan> I assume it's to prevent a complete takeover of the account.
#603 [10:13] <Baelthor> hi everyone, i have a friend with a problem, my friend want to change the security password and he can't and don't found a email to explain his problem to mojang, can anybody tell me how contact with the company to change the security password??
#604 [10:14] <StRubiko> I'm buy the game, and i have code payment, it's possible change security questions?
#605 [10:14] <StRubiko> Morrolan?
#606 [10:15] <tukker101> I dont mean to be rude or anything but why wont the verification key show up in my email
#607 [10:17] <Fishfish0001> tukker101: http://help.mojang.com/
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#610 [10:18] <Ghasran> Hey, I was able to solve the issue with not being able to pay for the game
#611 [10:19] <Ghasran> appearantly I wasn't being referred to the buy now page through https, it was regular http... So as soon as I changed the http://www.minecraft.net/store/game address to https://www.minecraft.net/store/game, it all started working again...
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#613 [10:20] <Ghasran> Thanks for your help anyway, everyone!
#614 [10:23] <Morrolan> StRubiko: Don't think you can.
#615 [10:24] <Morrolan> StRubiko: You _could_ contact Mojang, but they are backlogged by two months.
#616 [10:25] <StRubiko> OMG :(
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#620 [10:25] <Morrolan> Ghasran: Odd issue. The embed payment form (which is using a secured connection) shouldn't care what address you use. :S
#621 [10:25] <StRubiko> For me suport for Premium user is deprecated :(
#622 [10:26] <Morrolan> Ghasran: Be it as it be, glad it worked.
#623 [10:26] <StRubiko> i buy game...and then i can't change question :(
#624 [10:26] <StRubiko> it's absurde
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#626 [10:26] <Morrolan> As I said, chances are it's to prevent an account takeover.
#627 [10:26] <StRubiko> yes, but i have paypal code, name, and other data for autenticate
#628 [10:27] <Morrolan> Then contact Mojang, if you want it changed so direly.
#629 [10:27] <Morrolan> However, prepare to wait a month, or two. ;)
#630 [10:27] <StRubiko> yes i send mail to notch
#631 [10:27] <StRubiko> wel...
#632 [10:27] <StRubiko> i cant return my game and get money?
#633 [10:27] <Morrolan> Nope.
#634 [10:28] <StRubiko> i go check but thanks
#635 [10:28] <Third> ... when I go to pay for MC with paypal, its all in swedish
#636 [10:28] <Morrolan> use http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new to contact them, btw.
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#638 [10:28] <Third> anyone know what thats about
#639 [10:28] <Morrolan> Third: Eh, had that too, but it doesn't really matter, does it. ^
#640 [10:28] <Morrolan> Just click the button which looks like the correct one. :D
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#642 [10:28] <Third> but I can't read it /cry
#643 [10:28] <StRubiko> ok thanks
#644 [10:29] <Third> but like, I shouldn
#645 [10:29] <Quake4bypuma> How do you disable auto update, because I'm trying to install ic2 while the version is 1.3. But I change the jar to 1.2.5. Every time I try to play the game it keeps auto updating into 1.3 and deletes all of my mod files :(
#646 [10:29] <Third> I shouldn't be worried, huh?
#647 [10:29] <Quake4bypuma> Anyone can help me with that?
#648 [10:30] <Quake4bypuma> ..in minecraft
#649 [10:30] <Morrolan> Third: On the top right, where it says "Svenska", click there, and you'll be able to change the language.
#650 [10:31] <Morrolan> Quake4bypuma: The vanilla loader doesn't update automatically.
#651 [10:31] <Morrolan> It'll ask you whether you want to update on startup.
#652 [10:31] <Quake4bypuma> I have a different launcher so. Can't disable the updates
#653 [10:31] <Morrolan> Then ask the creator of that launcher.
#654 [10:32] <Quake4bypuma> Thanks
#655 [10:32] <Morrolan> People expecting us to know third party launcher better than their creators? Great. <.<
#656 [10:32] <Morrolan> launchers*
#657 [10:33] * Morrolan wanders back to work
#657 [10:33] <Third> awesome, now I can read it. still asking to pay in euro, thats cool right?
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#660 [10:34] <Morrolan> Third: Yea, Paypal (or your credit card provider) will exchange it.
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#662 [10:34] <Morrolan> I believe you can even select the currency somewhere during PayPal's payment process, but it really shouldn't matter.
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#666 [10:36] <ramer888> well first off i have a mac and i cant find the arceives in it at all....there is nothin that says .minecraft
#667 [10:37] <ramer888> and everytime i load minecraft with my texture pack it crashes
#668 [10:37] <Morrolan> ?? mac/.minecraft
#669 [10:37] <VoxelHead> mac/.minecraft: To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#670 [10:38] <ramer888> yes it is
#671 [10:38] <Morrolan> As for the texture pack making Minecraft crash - ask its creator to fix it then. ;)
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#673 [10:38] <Morrolan> Chances are it's made for an old version of Minecraft, and incompatible with the current one.
#674 [10:38] <kingofpikachus> i need some help
#675 [10:39] <Morrolan> Ask.
#676 [10:39] <Third> thanks morrolan, you're an awesome duder
#677 [10:39] <Morrolan> :)
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#679 [10:39] <kingofpikachus> i upgraded to forge 3.3.8 and now i get a blck screen
#680 [10:39] <kingofpikachus> black*
#681 [10:39] <Morrolan> Then this mod might not be compatible with the version of Minecraft you're using.
#682 [10:39] <Morrolan> (Or it's just buggy)
#683 [10:39] <ramer888> well i got it to work a couple days ago but there was something that wasnt showing sorwds armor or and kind of item...
#684 [10:40] <Morrolan> kingofpikachus: Start the launcher -> options -> force update -> log in to grab fresh, unmodified Minecraft files.
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#686 [10:40] <kingofpikachus> i have arrows mod, IC2, Buildcraft, shelf mods
#687 [10:41] <kingofpikachus> my minecraft works fine on 1.2.5 with forge 3.3.7
#688 [10:41] <ramer888> this is just stressing me out a lot
#689 [10:42] <kingofpikachus> But then if i upgrade to 3.3.8 or add the mods EE2 or forestry it crashs
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#692 [10:43] <ramer888> screw it i dont need a texture pack
#693 [10:43] <Guest22835> When i try to download minecraft that i just bought it says it is damaged and can not download. What should i do?
#694 [10:44] <kingofpikachus> redownload
#695 [10:44] <Guest22835> i've done that 4 times.
#696 [10:45] <Calinou> use a real browser (eg. not internet exploder)
#697 [10:45] <Calinou> and download it - do not run it
#698 [10:45] <Calinou> you might also try the .jar launcher, found here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar
#699 [10:45] <Guest22835> i am useing safari.
#700 [10:45] <Calinou> (put on desktop and double click)
#701 [10:46] <Calinou> if you're on OS X 10.8, allow Minecraft in gatekeeper or disable it
#702 [10:47] <Guest22835> what is gatekeeper
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#704 [10:49] <kingofpikachus> got a new minecraft and install forge 3.3.7
#705 [10:50] <kingofpikachus> now it says forge is too old
#706 [10:50] <Guest22835> Thanks so much the gatekeeper suggestion worked!
#707 [10:53] * Calinou bitchslaps tim cook
#707 [10:53] <Calinou> ...and the other apple guys
#708 [10:55] <kingofpikachus> Does anyone know were forestry and EE2 for forge 3.3.7 are?
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#710 [10:56] <Calinou> ?? mods
#711 [10:56] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#712 [10:56] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#717 [11:00] <Cobra_Fett> so im trying to update to 1.3.2, but the launcher download always gets stuck on a percent and then wont move
#718 [11:02] <Cobra_Fett> any help?
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#722 [11:05] <Calinou> Cobra_Fett, disable AVG link scanner
#723 [11:06] <Cobra_Fett> ok
#724 [11:06] <Cobra_Fett> thanks alot
#725 [11:06] <Calinou> np
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#728 [11:08] <Cobra_Fett> oh yeah
#729 [11:08] <Cobra_Fett> it worked
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#736 [11:20] <Nannberg06> my son cant choose to make at new skin or find his old skins??
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#738 [11:24] <BrandMuffins> um when i try to uninstall java it says Fatal error during installtion Any suggestions?
#739 [11:25] <BrandMuffins> Anyone?
#740 [11:26] <JKL> sounds weird
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#744 [11:29] <JKL> BrandMuffins: try revo uninstaller maybe
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#747 [11:29] <BrandMuffins> ive been using Micro soft fix it but that just closes when i open it..
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#749 [11:30] <Ryanl20k> i bought minecraft today and when i start the game up the title screen is glitching and the mobs in game are all black whats wrong??
#750 [11:31] <Denizen> Is there a world called "Ben"?
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#752 [11:32] <Ryanl20k> no
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#764 [11:56] <ezrix> how can i reinstall minecraft on my pc?
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#766 [11:57] <Denizen> What is the issue prompting you to reinstall?
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#769 [11:58] <ezrix> I tried some things to increase FPS, noneof which worked and now its not running properly
#770 [12:00] <mcool333> My launcher cannot longer connect to the minecraft. Got technic launcher around the same time, could that be the cause?
#771 [12:00] <Denizen> What did you try, ezrix?
#772 [12:01] <mcool333> removed minecraft from PC, reinstalled. Still cannot connect
#773 [12:01] <Denizen> mcool333, what do you mean "can't connect"? When you try to login it says "Cannot connect to minecraft.net"?
#774 [12:01] <Denizen> If so then that is not a problem with the launcher.
#775 [12:01] <mcool333> Yes
#776 [12:02] <Calinou> did you install a new version of java recently?
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#778 [12:02] <ezrix> Installed Optifine and Gamebooster, deleted meta files from .minecraft and replaced with files from optifine. Thought I had a back up but cant find it
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#781 [12:02] <mcool333> doesn't even load the update news
#782 [12:02] <Denizen> What exactly do you mean by "not running properly," do you get a black screen?
#783 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> ??> ezrix forceupdate
#784 [12:03] <Calinou> ezrix, gamebooster is a malware. don't use it
#785 [12:03] <VoxelHead> ezrix: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#786 [12:03] <VoxelHead> ezrix: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#787 [12:03] <Calinou> (as in: it's not directly a virus, but *it sucks*)
#788 [12:03] <Denizen> thanks tyteen
#789 [12:03] <Calinou> i exagerated a bit :p
#790 [12:03] <Calinou> mcool333, http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/User:Pmw57/Minecrafthelp/Troubleshooting#Connection_to_minecraft.net_fails.2C_with_HTML_text_up_in_the_news_panel
#791 [12:03] <Calinou> read carefully
#792 [12:03] <ezrix> Norton doesnt pick up on it Calinou?
#793 [12:04] * Calinou facepalms, did you read what I just said?
#793 [12:04] <Calinou> just don't use gamebooster again
#794 [12:04] <mcool333> thx
#795 [12:04] <Denizen> Calinou meant that it can be harmful, although it's not specifically designed to be harmful.
#796 [12:04] <Denizen> Anyways ezrix, do Force Update.
#797 [12:04] <Calinou> norton sucks too by the way 8)
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#799 [12:06] <ezrix> updating
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#801 [12:06] <ezrix> now says failed to launch
#802 [12:07] <Denizen> Press Print Screen, then go to http://imgur.com and click Ctrl + V
#803 [12:07] <Denizen> to take a screenshot of this error
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#805 [12:08] <ezrix> already closed and reopened, asked to update, did so, works but fps very low
#806 [12:08] <Denizen> You deleted META-INF from .minecraft, yes?
#807 [12:09] <Denizen> What version are you running
#808 [12:09] <ezrix> correct 1.3.2
#809 [12:09] <Denizen> Make sure to get the corresponding optifine version.
#810 [12:09] <Denizen> Make sure to get the corresponding optifine version.
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#813 [12:10] <Calinou> optifine doesn't work with 1.3.2 afaik
#814 [12:10] <Calinou> just click "force update" in the launcher options
#815 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: there's a 1.3.2 now?
#816 [12:13] <ezrix> so am i stuck with tons of lag until optifine updates?
#817 [12:14] <Calinou> ezrix, or, you could revert: http://assets.minecraft.net/1_3_1/minecraft.jar
#818 [12:14] <Calinou> also please do not mix the terms "lag" and "slow performance"
#819 [12:14] <Calinou> (you have to put this .jar file in .minecraft/bin - your .minecraft folder is in %appdata% on windows)
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#821 [12:14] <ezrix> apologies
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#823 [12:25] <ezrix> still loads 1.3.2
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#826 [12:26] <colecontrol> Just downloaded minecraft 1.3.2 on mac and quickly realized that I can't get mods yet for this version. Is there a way to downgrade back to 1.3.1?
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#829 [12:28] <colecontrol> are there live computer services in Chicago that can help us figure out mine craft questions?
#830 [12:29] <speterl> Hi it say "Fatal error occurred (4): /Users/Stephen/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar"
#831 [12:30] <speterl> When I try to update it
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#833 [12:30] <colecontrol> If anyone is aware of a live person to provide support via computer or in Chicago, can you let me know?
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#835 [12:30] <speterl> ok but I am not in chicago
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#837 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> colecontrol: we offer TeamViewer help, but only when absolutely nec-
#838 [12:32] <tyteen4a03> dammit
#839 [12:33] <ezrix> tried several things to increase fps, nothing working, any ideas?
#840 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> ezrix: Get a better computer
#841 [12:33] <ezrix> nice
#842 [12:33] <ezrix> very helpful
#843 [12:34] <tyteen4a03> ezrix: yes, if you have a computer that is more than 3 years old, this is usually the quickest solution
#844 [12:34] <ezrix> not the problem
#845 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> low computer spec that can't handle minecraft is a problem, unless you tell us your spec
#846 [12:38] <Necrodoom> ezrix: there might be other ways to improve performance
#847 [12:39] <Necrodoom> ezrix: but dont count my word on it
#848 [12:39] <ezrix> Toshiba Satellite P745 Intel Core i5 2410m cpu@ 2.30GHz 6GB 64 bitOS
#849 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> ??> ezrix win/client/moreran
#850 [12:39] <tyteen4a03> ??> ezrix win/client/moreram
#851 [12:39] <VoxelHead> ezrix: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#852 [12:39] <VoxelHead> ezrix: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#853 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> ezrix: Oh, and Norton sucks
#854 [12:40] <tyteen4a03> ezrix: It's also known to cause problems with Minecraft
#855 [12:41] <ezrix> Ive heard allocating more ram is not good, and yes ive been told norton sucks by several others
#856 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> ezrix: allocating RAM is finwe
#857 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> *allocating more
#858 [12:43] <Questioner> hello i have question. I keep disconnecting from servers. and get this error: http://imgur.com/gsyHu
#859 [12:43] <Questioner> this*
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#861 [12:43] <tyteen4a03> Questioner: The server's not updated yet
#862 [12:43] <Questioner> ok
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#866 [12:45] <Necrodoom> but you can connect to 1.3.1 servers with 1.3.2, no?
#867 [12:46] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom: that I'm not sure
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#869 [12:46] <poby123> Hello
#870 [12:46] <Necrodoom> im playing fine on my server with 1.3.2
#871 [12:46] <ezrix> can you help me out with that Vox?
#872 [12:46] <poby123> Anyone intrested in buying the cheepest server ever!?
#873 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> poby123: No advertising in this channel
#874 [12:47] <poby123> ok
#875 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> ??> ezrix bot
#876 [12:47] <VoxelHead> ezrix: (bot) I just type quickly.
#877 [12:47] <VoxelHead> ezrix: (bot) I just type quickly.
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#879 [12:47] <tyteen4a03> Necrodoom: I am not sure... same major version should work
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#882 [12:49] <Gilded_Knight> can i ask if you guys know any admin mods other then Bukkit that give good logs?
#883 [12:50] <tyteen4a03> Gilded_Knight: You might want to ask this in #risucraft instead
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#885 [12:50] <Gilded_Knight> thanks
#886 [12:51] <Vas> Quick completely curious question. What do you estimate a single static block in minecraft takes in memory?
#887 [12:51] <Vas> Need it for a quick bit of math :P
#888 [12:52] <tyteen4a03> Vas: in RAM?
#889 [12:52] <tyteen4a03> Vas: as far as I know block values should be a short
#890 [12:53] <Vas> In memory. You know. one 16x16 block would take what? 256 bytes of memory?
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#893 [12:53] <tyteen4a03> Vas: I don't really know to be honest, but block values should be a short (takes 2 bytes)
#894 [12:54] <Vas> Well that's not what I'm talking about :P
#895 [12:54] <Vas> I'm talking about the amount of ram a single block would take up. Not the data value it's self
#896 [12:54] <tyteen4a03> Vas: Block value takes 2 bytes, additional data might take more
#897 [12:55] <tyteen4a03> Vas: Try asking this in #risucraft or #mcdevs at freenode instead
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#900 [12:56] <DopeGhoti> Vas: IIRC, a block itself is two or three bytes, but that's without the overhead of its location, etc.
#901 [12:56] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: 2
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#903 [12:56] <Vas> So if each block takes 2 bytes of memory. Makes me wonder why minecraft takes several gigs of memory. xD anyway
#904 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> Vas: even with blocks, there are bytes of additional information
#905 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> Vas: and there are a _lot_ of underlying code, and even java itself eats memory
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#907 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> Vas: There are a lot of factors to consider when talking about RAM usage, but I'd say a lot of it comes from Java VM itself
#908 [12:58] <JenJac> I'm trying to help my son. His computer crashed and had to wiped back to out-of-the-box status. He lost his minecraft download and it was the paid for premium membership. Does anyone know what to do to get it back?
#909 [12:58] <Vas> Well, blocks alone. If we wanted to load every single block within the entire game possible. It'd take 1.843 Exabytes of memory.
#910 [12:58] <Vas> minecraft.net
#911 [12:58] <Gilded_Knight> risucraft is lame
#912 [12:58] <Vas> JenJac: Minecraft.net
#913 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> JenJac: Just download it again
#914 [12:58] <Vas> Yep
#915 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> Gilded_Knight: If you don't know how to behave in it, that's not anybody's problem
#916 [12:59] <Vas> From earlier math today, I found out there is a possible 921,600,000,000,000,000 blocks allowed in the game.
#917 [12:59] <JenJac> We downloaded it but the little icon isn't showing up on his homescreen. Do you know how to get the icon back?
#918 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> Vas: Yes, but not all blocks are loaded at the same time
#919 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> JenJac: download Minecraft.exe onto the desktop
#920 [12:59] <Vas> Yes I know :P I was just tinkering with math.
#921 [13:00] <JenJac> ok. I mustve downloaded it to another location. Thanks for the help!!! You saved a mom!!
#922 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> JenJac: No problem :)
#923 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> Vas: I'm not sure if java can handle that much, or 64bit can handle that much
#924 [13:00] <Vas> there are 921,600,000,000,000,000 blocks between XZY 30,000,000 - 30,000,000 - 0 & -30,000,000 - -30,000,000 - 256
#925 [13:00] <Vas> Which'd require about 2 exabytes of data minimum
#926 [13:01] <Vas> So, a few hundred years from now, we'll be able to load all of the game at once!
#927 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> Vas: You can actually do this now, if you have the hardware and a 128bit OS
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#929 [13:02] <Vas> There isn't even enough ram chips in the world to have 2 exabytes :P and you don't need a 128 bit OS
#930 [13:02] <Vas> 64 bit supports 16EB of memory
#931 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> Vas: Oh right
#932 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> Vas: however current CPUs don't use up all of it
#933 [13:04] <Vas> 18446744073709551616 bytes = 18.45 EB (exabytes)
#934 [13:05] <Vas> That's 64 bit, 32 bit is 4294967296 bytes, 4.295 GB (gigabytes) Though for some reason I have a feeling my math may be off somewhere. I'm a little tired.
#935 [13:05] <Vas> Imagine the day when we actually need an EB of memory. :P
#936 [13:06] <tyteen4a03> Vas: what would we be storing anyways
#937 [13:06] <Vas> the 4th dimension!
#938 [13:07] <Vas> Ah well, I got my question answered :P I was curious what it'd take to have the whole game loaded at once.
#939 [13:08] <Vas> Does the game crash if you keep flying till you're at 100,000,000 X,Z? I mean everything after 30 million is untouchable but you can keep flying.
#940 [13:09] <tyteen4a03> Vas: From the experience of Minecraft Classic, no
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#942 [13:09] <Calinou> hi "theorical guy"!
#943 [13:09] <skywatcher16> hi
#944 [13:09] <Calinou> not talking about you
#945 [13:10] <Calinou> Vas, the blocks don't take up that amount of memory - see minetest for example
#946 [13:10] <skywatcher16> oh
#947 [13:10] <Calinou> not all blocks are loaded at once, too
#948 [13:10] <Vas> I know that
#949 [13:11] <Vas> It was a rough estimate, on what it would take, if you tried to load all blocks simotaniously
#950 [13:11] <Calinou> tyteen4a03, there is no 128 bit processor as of today, released to the public
#951 [13:11] <skywatcher16> hey, can anyone tell me why all my 'survival' modes keep becoming 'adventure' mode?
#952 [13:12] <Calinou> /defaultgamemode 0
#953 [13:12] <Vas> There isn't really a need for such a processor when we havn't gone above the current requirements of 64 bit. You'd have to have exahertz processors :P
#954 [13:12] <Calinou> (if you enabled cheats)
#955 [13:12] <skywatcher16> ok that might fix my new ones..... but my old ones are all messed up too.....
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#957 [13:13] <Liam> I deleted my world by accident can i get it back?
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#961 [13:14] * Calinou facepalms
#961 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> lol Liam
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#963 [13:16] <Chris> anyone online to help?
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#966 [13:22] <Jouster500\> is winRAR safe to open up or is it filled with bugs and glitchs? cause im trying to change the language of my enchantment table
#967 [13:23] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: WinRAR is safe, yes
#968 [13:24] <Jouster500\> where do i download it?
#969 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: rarlab.com
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#971 [13:24] <Jouster500\> k thx
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#973 [13:25] <Humbi_Bumbi> Hello
#974 [13:25] <Humbi_Bumbi> They still dont fix this skin bug ?
#975 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> Humbi_Bumbi: Not yet
#976 [13:25] <Jouster500\> wait is winrar free or do you need to pay?
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#978 [13:25] <Humbi_Bumbi> U know when it will be fixed
#979 [13:25] <Humbi_Bumbi> ?
#980 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> Humbi_Bumbi: We have no idea
#981 [13:25] <Humbi_Bumbi> ok
#982 [13:26] <Humbi_Bumbi> ty
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#986 [13:26] <Jouster500\> Is winRAR free or do you need to pay?
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#988 [13:27] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: It provides a trial version which "expires" after 40 days (the quote is there because it doesn't really expire)
#989 [13:27] <Jouster500\> so bassically i have it forever?
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#991 [13:29] <Jouster500\> how do i configure if my laptop is 64 bit and 32 bit again?
#992 [13:29] <HoSlappa> hello i am currently having an issue logging into a server i play on and i was wondering if anyone on here could help
#993 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: What error message did you receive?
#994 [13:30] <HoSlappa> i have tried everything and so here i am
#995 [13:30] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: Try the 64bit installer first, if an error pops up it means your computer is 32bit
#996 [13:30] <Jouster500\> k thx
#997 [13:30] <HoSlappa> i get this one internal exception java.io.ioexception bad packet id 72
#998 [13:30] <HoSlappa> my pc is 32
#999 [13:31] <Jouster500\> HoSlappa: its probably the server itself
#1000 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: No
#1001 [13:31] <Jouster500\> then what?
#1002 [13:31] <HoSlappa> i can login to a different server on my pc just not that one but no one can login to that server on my pc
#1003 [13:31] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: The server you are connecting to is not running a Minecraft server
#1004 [13:31] <HoSlappa> but i can login on a differrent pc somewhere else
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#1006 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: Login to where, from where?
#1007 [13:32] <speterl> Hi it say "Fatal error occurred (4): /Users/Stephen/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar" when I try to update to minecraft 1.3.2
#1008 [13:32] <speterl> can anyone help?
#1009 [13:32] <HoSlappa> i can login to a certain server from my pc
#1010 [13:32] <Jouster500\> wait 1.3.2 is up?
#1011 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: Yes
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#1013 [13:32] <tyteen4a03> ??> speterl mac/reinst
#1014 [13:32] <VoxelHead> speterl: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1015 [13:32] <speterl> Yes it was up about a half hour ago
#1016 [13:32] <VoxelHead> speterl: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1017 [13:33] <Jouster500\> wow
#1018 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: You're hosting a server on your own PC (the one that gives you bad packet?)
#1019 [13:33] <HoSlappa> no
#1020 [13:33] <HoSlappa> im just a player
#1021 [13:33] <HoSlappa> lol no pun intended
#1022 [13:33] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: Which server are you connecting to?
#1023 [13:34] <speterl> Will I lose my worlds
#1024 [13:34] <HoSlappa> its a semi private server called lunitia my friends play on it
#1025 [13:34] <Jouster500\> Should WinRAR be associated to JAR if im trying to veiw a JAR file?
#1026 [13:34] <HoSlappa> and started it and shit theres only like 15 of us who play on it
#1027 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: I don't recommend it, since sometimes you want to run the jar file
#1028 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: Can I have the IP?
#1029 [13:35] <HoSlappa> sure
#1030 [13:35] <HoSlappa> 24.17.92.33:8123
#1031 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> !check 24.17.92.33:8123
#1032 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: ^
#1033 [13:35] <tyteen4a03> !check 24.17.92.33
#1034 [13:36] <speterl> Thank you! VoxelHead
#1035 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: The 8123 server is actually the World Map provider, you want to use :25565 instead
#1036 [13:36] <tyteen4a03> speterl: It's a bot
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#1038 [13:37] <speterl> One more question I tried to change my skin and then in the game it didn't show up
#1039 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> speterl: The Skin feature is currently broken
#1040 [13:38] <speterl> ok
#1041 [13:38] <HoSlappa> @tyteen4a03 thank you youre the man that worked
#1042 [13:38] <SEAL24> I need to know if there is any way i can proove that purchasing minecraft is safe (no problems with purchase, etc) and if i can pay using a visa pre-payed card?
#1043 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> HoSlappa: No problem
#1044 [13:38] <speterl> do you know when it will be back up?
#1045 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> speterl: No idea
#1046 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> SEAL24: If you purchase Minecraft from minecraft.net, then it's absolutely safe
#1047 [13:39] <speterl> yes
#1048 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> SEAL24: Also, Minecraft does not support purchasing Minecraft with a pre-paid card
#1049 [13:39] <speterl> seal24 yes
#1050 [13:39] <SEAL24> i know its safe, but my parents dont...
#1051 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> SEAL24: An alternative solution is to put the money in a PayPal account first, then use the PayPal account to buy minecraft
#1052 [13:40] <speterl> as long as you don't live in illionis or guam then you can buy it
#1053 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> speterl: False
#1054 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> SEAL24: What are your parents' concern?
#1055 [13:40] <speterl> money bookers doesn't support Illinois or Guam
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#1058 [13:41] <bub> trying to open mincraft file in 7zip and I cant
#1059 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> speterl: Moneybookers is frowned upon by our helpers, due to the high rate of unsuccessful transfers brought by it
#1060 [13:41] <SEAL24> the credit card that i would be using to buy minecraft also payes the bills, there worried the site isnt secure. i need a way to speterl prove it to them
#1061 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> bub: Did you extract it?
#1062 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> SEAL24: Minecraft support payment using PayPal
#1063 [13:41] <bub> the 7zip file?
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#1065 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> SEAL24: PayPal is the world's largest online payment provider, I'm sure your parents also use them
#1066 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> bub: No, the JAR
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#1068 [13:42] <bub> dont think so
#1069 [13:42] <SEAL24> i guess ill figure it out with paypal. thanks!
#1070 [13:42] <WaitersWillWait> I have a question guys, do you think you can answer it
#1071 [13:42] <bub> New to this son is 8 and Im to old for this.lol
#1072 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> WaitersWillWait ask
#1073 [13:42] <VoxelHead> WaitersWillWait: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1074 [13:42] <VoxelHead> WaitersWillWait: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
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#1076 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> bub: If you're trying to install a mod, I won't use 7zip, try WinRAR instead
#1077 [13:42] <speterl> i had my cousin gift me the game because I live in Illinois
#1078 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> bub: Then it's just drag and drop
#1079 [13:42] <tyteen4a03> speterl: just don't use Moneybookers
#1080 [13:42] <speterl> it worked perfectly
#1081 [13:43] <bub> k
#1082 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> speterl: Paypal works fine, and works better than Moneybookers
#1083 [13:43] <speterl> too late I have the account
#1084 [13:43] <speterl> its fine
#1085 [13:43] <WaitersWillWait> Alright. So i keep trying the buy miecraft, but it keeps saying therewas a error completing the processs
#1086 [13:43] <speterl> what error
#1087 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: Are you using a prepaid card?
#1088 [13:43] <WaitersWillWait> I have tried VISA and Paypal
#1089 [13:44] <speterl> do you live in Illinois?
#1090 [13:44] <WaitersWillWait> I also have tried mutiple times
#1091 [13:44] <WaitersWillWait> In Canada
#1092 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: Are you using a prepaid card?
#1093 [13:45] <WaitersWillWait> What do you mean?
#1094 [13:45] <bub> downloading winrar now
#1095 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: Those VISA cards that you can buy at Walmart
#1096 [13:45] <Jouster500\> Will there be anyway that the File for the alternate language for enchanting might come back?
#1097 [13:45] <WaitersWillWait> No! Real card
#1098 [13:45] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: Then you will want to call your bank about why the transfer was denied
#1099 [13:45] <WaitersWillWait> Real VISA card
#1100 [13:45] <Jouster500\> meaning if i wanted it back how would i get it back?
#1101 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: Is there any other error other than "there was an error?"
#1102 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: force update
#1103 [13:46] <Jouster500\> k thx
#1104 [13:46] <speterl> IDK
#1105 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: anything you've done to minecraft.jar will be reverted by doing a force update
#1106 [13:46] <WaitersWillWait> It was like "There was an error trying to complete this transaction"
#1107 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: you will want to call the bank then
#1108 [13:47] <speterl> no
#1109 [13:47] <WaitersWillWait> Great! Could it just be because im on a shitty computer??
#1110 [13:47] <speterl> becuase it would have gone through
#1111 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: No, sounds like a card issue instead
#1112 [13:47] <speterl> but then been denied
#1113 [13:47] <Jouster500\> k thx
#1114 [13:48] <speterl> or your card expired
#1115 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> speterl: There are a lot of factors that controls a transaction, the bank will know better than us
#1116 [13:48] <speterl> or maxed out
#1117 [13:48] <speterl> did you max out your card?
#1118 [13:48] <WaitersWillWait> Whats one of mojangs emails that i could also ask?
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#1121 [13:48] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: It's not Mojang's problem
#1122 [13:48] <WaitersWillWait> No! Not that I no of
#1123 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: However, if you want to send emails, go to help.mojang.com (warning, they have 2 months worth of tickets right now)
#1124 [13:49] <WaitersWillWait> I cant find there email adress there
#1125 [13:49] <Rodowity> Hello, i have I question. Why i have default skin and can`t change it?
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#1128 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> Rodowity: The skin feature is currently broken
#1129 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> WaitersWillWait: you have to use their Send Email form
#1130 [13:51] <WaitersWillWait> alright! thanks
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#1132 [13:51] <Rodowity> tyteen4a03, so when I can change my skin?
#1133 [13:51] <Allaun> Is there a way to reset a password on a minecraft account if you no longer have access to the email address?
#1134 [13:51] <tyteen4a03> Rodowity: We have no idea
#1135 [13:52] <tyteen4a03> Allaun: You can email Mojang with the proof of purchase
#1136 [13:52] <Allaun> Haven't purchased yet
#1137 [13:52] <Allaun> >.<
#1138 [13:52] <Rodowity> What broken the skin feature?
#1139 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> Allaun: Then there is no way to do so, you should check the spam folder, and try entering your email at minecraft.net/retrievename
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#1143 [13:55] <Rodowity> So why my friends have skins but I not? This bug only few people?
#1144 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> Rodowity: If you have changed your skin before the skin feature went down, it will still be there
#1145 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> Rodowity: basically, if you changed your skin during the last few days, it's going to be lost
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#1147 [13:56] <Jouster500\> Ok so i got the alternate file set but when i try to play minecraft it crashs in the loading screen.
#1148 [13:56] <Jouster500\> whats going on?
#1149 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: Then you installed it wrongly
#1150 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: force update, then try again, make sure you follow the instructions
#1151 [13:56] <Jouster500\> k
#1152 [13:57] <Rodowity> I don`t change skin from 3-4 months
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#1154 [13:57] <tyteen4a03> Rodowity: I don't exactly know the situation, but I've heard that older skins are also unaccessible as well
#1155 [13:58] <Jouster500\> umm its still crashing.... i deleted the version but its not working still
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#1157 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jouster500\ win/resint
#1158 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jouster500\ win/reinnt
#1159 [13:58] <tyteen4a03> ??> Jouster500\ win/reinst
#1160 [13:59] <VoxelHead> Jouster500\: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1161 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> dammit
#1162 [13:59] <VoxelHead> Jouster500\: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1163 [13:59] <Rodowity> So i must wait for repair this, yes?
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#1165 [13:59] <tyteen4a03> Rodowity: I am afraid so
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#1167 [13:59] <Dwarfspyker> Can any one help me fixing my minecraft?
#1168 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: Not if you don't tell us what is wrong with it
#1169 [14:00] <Dwarfspyker> This will explain my whole problem :
#1170 [14:00] <Dwarfspyker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs
#1171 [14:00] <Jouster500\> so delete the bin crash reports resources screenshots skins stats texturepACKS
#1172 [14:01] <Jouster500\> AND everything else really?
#1173 [14:01] <Rodowity> I know u don`t know when this can be repair but when i can see any information of this?
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#1175 [14:02] <Dwarfspyker> So how do i fix my problem?
#1176 [14:02] <Jouster500\> wait all i did was delete my bin...
#1177 [14:02] <Jouster500\> and its fine again
#1178 [14:02] <Dwarfspyker> Ur talking about my problem jouster?
#1179 [14:02] <Jouster500\> no mine lol sorry
#1180 [14:02] <Jouster500\> ill veiw yours
#1181 [14:03] <Dwarfspyker> Thx
#1182 [14:03] <Dwarfspyker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS3MhgZixxs
#1183 [14:03] <Dwarfspyker> I hope that someone can fix it i hope it so badly.
#1184 [14:04] <Dwarfspyker> Ow i got to add 1 information point to it btw.
#1185 [14:04] <Dwarfspyker> I once tryed to boost it with an game booster and it worked.
#1186 [14:04] <Dwarfspyker> But i try it again now, and it doesn't have the same effect as it had the first time =/
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#1188 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: Yes
#1189 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: deleting bin workd
#1190 [14:05] <Jouster500\> =P
#1191 [14:05] <Dwarfspyker> xD i deleted the full minecraft 6 times.
#1192 [14:05] <Dwarfspyker> Didn't work
#1193 [14:05] <Dwarfspyker> You think ONLY deleteing the bin will work?
#1194 [14:05] <tyteen4a03> ??> Dwarfspyker irc/multitasking
#1195 [14:05] <VoxelHead> Dwarfspyker: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1196 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: I remember you, you showed this video before I could reply
#1197 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: Do you have the crash message?
#1198 [14:06] <Dwarfspyker> Nope there is none.
#1199 [14:06] <Jouster500\> Dwarfspkyer: how long has this been around?
#1200 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: So it just exists?
#1201 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> *exits
#1202 [14:07] <Dwarfspyker> No it it hangs while it's saying connecting to server.
#1203 [14:07] <Dwarfspyker> It's not a crash though because i can still click on the cancel button.
#1204 [14:07] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: but it doesn't respond, right?
#1205 [14:07] <Dwarfspyker> But if i re-click on the multiplayer section again it crashes
#1206 [14:07] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: Does it happen on only 1 server?
#1207 [14:08] <Dwarfspyker> No every server i try.
#1208 [14:08] <Dwarfspyker> I can see that they are online in the minecraft server list.
#1209 [14:08] <Dwarfspyker> But it simply doesn't connect to it when i double clicked on it
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#1211 [14:08] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#1212 [14:08] <Jouster500\> Dwarfspkyer: why not try waiting out the connection?
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#1214 [14:08] <Dwarfspyker> I did and i waited for about 20 minutes
#1215 [14:09] <Dwarfspyker> Doesn't change a thing.
#1216 [14:09] <Jouster500\> wait till something changes
#1217 [14:09] <Jouster500\> it might give us insight to whats wrong
#1218 [14:09] <Dwarfspyker> Lol i tryed it for 20 minutes what could possibly change after that?
#1219 [14:09] <Dwarfspyker> I mean i can run it for 3 hours but it's useless
#1220 [14:10] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: Download http://einprogress.io/mc/minecrafthelp/mc_troubleshooting_launcher.jar
#1221 [14:10] <Jouster500\> it might say end of stream, or end of connection or internal error
#1222 [14:10] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: But it doesn't
#1223 [14:10] <tyteen4a03> ??> Dwarfspyker win/client/moreram
#1224 [14:10] <VoxelHead> Dwarfspyker: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#1225 [14:10] <VoxelHead> Dwarfspyker: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#1226 [14:11] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: Then follow VoxelHead's instruction and download the bat file, once you've done both of that, edit the bat file
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#1228 [14:11] <Dwarfspyker> Pff i'm not a computer but i'm gonna try
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#1230 [14:11] <Jouster500\> Ok so im at the JAR minecraft file now with the 2 font files. From here i should try to copy the default delete the alternate and rename the new default to alternate right?
#1231 [14:11] <Dwarfspyker> Where do i see thouse instructions?
#1232 [14:12] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: The one VoxelHead just said
#1233 [14:12] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: I'm not sure what you're trying to do, so I don't know
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#1235 [14:14] <Jouster500\> im trying to change the languages for the enchantment tables. I could bring up a youtube tutorial showing what im trying to do. But how its done in the video isn't quite the same for my computor
#1236 [14:14] <Jouster500\> plus i dont know how to bring up a youtube video here =P
#1237 [14:14] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: We don't support mods, you will want to go to #risucraft instead
#1238 [14:15] <tyteen4a03> Wug: How is the troubleshooting launcher used?
#1239 [14:15] <Dwarfspyker> Doesn't change any thing =/
#1240 [14:15] <Jouster500\> its not a mod. Im altering the coding
#1241 [14:15] <tyteen4a03> Jouster500\: Then it's consider modding
#1242 [14:15] <Jouster500\> oh
#1243 [14:15] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: No, it will not fix your problem right away. Edit the bat file
#1244 [14:16] <Jouster500\> Multiplayer servers don't allow mods like these correct?
#1245 [14:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> Dwarfspyker dont/pm
#1246 [14:16] <VoxelHead> Dwarfspyker: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1247 [14:16] <Dwarfspyker> ok
#1248 [14:17] <tyteen4a03> Dwarfspyker: I am currently working out how to use the troubleshooting launcher, we have one but there is no documentation
#1249 [14:17] <Jouster500\> thanks for your time
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#1251 [14:17] <Dwarfspyker> okay =/
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#1254 [14:18] <Curi0usGe0rge00> Got a question, anyone care to help?
#1255 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> ??> Curi0usGe0rge00 ask
#1256 [14:19] <VoxelHead> Curi0usGe0rge00: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#1257 [14:19] <VoxelHead> Curi0usGe0rge00: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#1258 [14:19] <tyteen4a03> Curi0usGe0rge00: Also, please change your nick to something less irriating
#1259 [14:19] * Curi0usGe0rge00 is now known as :Kubrick56
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#1261 [14:21] <tyteen4a03> Kubrick56: thank you
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#1263 [14:23] <bub> need help on how to get mads
#1264 [14:23] <tyteen4a03> bub: Mads?
#1265 [14:23] <bub> mods
#1266 [14:24] <Kubrick56> When I try to play the free version of the game a window comes up instantly that says "Updating Minecraft" and the load bar gets 90% full instantly, then nothing happens, it says "Done Loading" I have uninstalled previous versions of Java and have the latest at the moment
#1267 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> bub: There are a lot of mods to choose, googling and joining the #risucraft channel helps
#1268 [14:24] <bub> i downloaded winZAR
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#1270 [14:24] <tyteen4a03> Kubrick56: Make sure you're running Java 6 and the 64bit version if you're on a 64bit computer
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#1272 [14:24] <Kubrick56> I have tried both ver. 6 and this is a 32bit machine
#1273 [14:24] <Kubrick56> and 7
#1274 [14:25] <tyteen4a03> Kubrick56: Are you absolutely sure you're on a 32bit machine? and use 6 instead
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#1277 [14:26] <tyteen4a03> hi Grim_Reaper
#1278 [14:26] <tyteen4a03> GrimIphone, really
#1279 [14:26] <slowfi> won't some mods prevent you from logging into some multiplayer servers?
#1280 [14:26] <tyteen4a03> slowfi: Sometimes, yes
#1281 [14:26] <Kubrick56> Hmm.. it seems to be 64bits windows, but doesn´t this have with hardware to do to?
#1282 [14:26] <tyteen4a03> ??> Kubrick56 win/dxdiag/bat
#1283 [14:27] <VoxelHead> Kubrick56: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1284 [14:27] <VoxelHead> Kubrick56: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1285 [14:27] <tyteen4a03> Kubrick56: Since you're not sure, please provide a dxdiag report so we can determine
#1286 [14:27] <Kubrick56> will do, brb
#1287 [14:28] <bub> best website to get mods
#1288 [14:28] <tyteen4a03> bub: you will have to search yourself, we don't have recommendations
#1289 [14:28] <bub> k thanks
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#1291 [14:30] <slowfi> I'd try to get the mod from the developer's home page or else it might be corrupted. that happens sometimes
#1292 [14:31] <Questioner> i try to join a friend his server and this one is updated. but i get this error: http://imgur.com/rJjrC
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#1294 [14:31] <tyteen4a03> Questioner: Turn off any security software you have
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#1296 [14:32] <tyteen4a03> Questioner: Anti-virus, Firewalls, turn them all off
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#1299 [14:32] <Questioner> ok will test thath
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#1302 [14:33] <Questioner> ok for now it is working...
#1303 [14:33] * Questioner afk
#1303 [14:34] <TheFluffyPlayer> Hey anyone else having issues with download packages? Is the server overloaded?
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#1306 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> TheFluffyPlayer: Download package?
#1307 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I need to sleep, can you take over
#1308 [14:37] <TheFluffyPlayer> My client freezes there
#1309 [14:37] <tyteen4a03> ??> TheFluffyPlayer forceupdate
#1310 [14:37] <VoxelHead> TheFluffyPlayer: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1311 [14:37] <VoxelHead> TheFluffyPlayer: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#1312 [14:37] <TheFluffyPlayer> i just bought the game so
#1313 [14:38] <TheFluffyPlayer> i tried reinstaling java se
#1314 [14:38] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - What exactly happens when you try to download then?
#1315 [14:38] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Not really, but I'll try to look in here every now and then. :S
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#1317 [14:38] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: There's this issue: [02:23] <Kubrick56> When I try to play the free version of the game a window comes up instantly that says "Updating Minecraft" and the load bar gets 90% full instantly, then nothing happens, it says "Done Loading" I have uninstalled previous versions of Java and have the latest at the moment
#1318 [14:38] <Morrolan> Security software?
#1319 [14:38] <TheFluffyPlayer> well it freezes each time
#1320 [14:38] <Morrolan> Also, was the demo actually fixed now?
#1321 [14:38] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I told him to get a dxdiag because apperantely he is not sure whether he has a 32bit or 64bit java
#1322 [14:39] <TheFluffyPlayer> i turned off MSE and firewall
#1323 [14:39] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - Freezes while downloading what file?
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#1325 [14:39] <TheFluffyPlayer> doesnt even come to retrevieng = %
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#1327 [14:40] <minecraftfan> hi
#1328 [14:40] <tyteen4a03> hi minecraftfan
#1329 [14:40] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - Meh. Grab the .jar launcher from www.minecraft.net/download and this .bat file: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15421087/Minecraft/%23Minecrafthelp/run_minecraft.bat
#1330 [14:40] <minecraftfan> i would like to know if i am allowed to put minecraft videos on youtube
#1331 [14:40] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - Save them in the same folder, then doubleclick the .bat file.
#1332 [14:40] <Kubrick56> Where should I post the report from postbin?
#1333 [14:40] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - When it freezes you should get an error in the console, throw that one on www.pastebin.com
#1334 [14:41] <Morrolan> Kubrick56 - Once you put it on www.pastebin.com, give us the link.
#1335 [14:41] <Kubrick56> Here?
#1336 [14:41] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#1337 [14:41] <minecraftfan> am i allowed to make minecraft videos and put them on youtube?
#1338 [14:41] <TheFluffyPlayer> should i delete the current bin in appdata bfore i run?
#1339 [14:41] <tyteen4a03> minecraftfan: Yes
#1340 [14:41] <Morrolan> minecraftfan - As long as you don't sell them, this hsouldn't be an issue.
#1341 [14:41] <Morrolan> shouldn't*
#1342 [14:41] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Go to bed already. ;D
#1343 [14:41] <minecraftfan> t
#1344 [14:41] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I don't think selling videos of Minecraft would be illegal
#1345 [14:41] <minecraftfan> so i cant have a youtube partnership?
#1346 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> minecraftfan: You can
#1347 [14:42] <minecraftfan> so like monetization?
#1348 [14:42] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - If there is an issue, then it'll be the texture pack.
#1349 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> minecraftfan: Yes, you can use these features
#1350 [14:42] <Morrolan> Honestly though, I don't know.
#1351 [14:42] <Kubrick56> http://pastebin.com/biH7dNbB
#1352 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I don't think it will be
#1353 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> Kubrick56
#1354 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> oops
#1355 [14:42] <TheFluffyPlayer> again the same freeze
#1356 [14:43] <minecraftfan> so i wouls not have to sign any forms with mojang?
#1357 [14:43] <tyteen4a03> Kubrick56: You have a 64bit machine, uninstall every other java versions then install Java 6 64bit version
#1358 [14:43] <tyteen4a03> minecraftfan: No
#1359 [14:43] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - Read carefully what I wrote up there. ;)
#1360 [14:43] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: Kubrick56 is yours, I shall sleep
#1361 [14:43] <Morrolan> " <@Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - When it freezes you should get an error in the console, throw that one on www.pastebin.com"
#1362 [14:43] <minecraftfan> am i allowed to use fraps to record the videos that i put on youtube
#1363 [14:43] <Kubrick56> Ok, thanks, will try that
#1364 [14:43] <tyteen4a03> minecraftfan: Yes
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#1366 [14:44] <minecraftfan> and how would i sell my videos on youtube? that reply doesnt make much sense
#1367 [14:44] <TheFluffyPlayer> oh sory didnt see the third line :)
#1368 [14:44] <Morrolan> minecraftfan - Wasn't talking about Youtube back then.
#1369 [14:44] <minecraftfan> toh ok
#1370 [14:44] <Morrolan> Either way, chances are you could even sell them, I honestly don't know.
#1371 [14:44] <tyteen4a03> minecraftfan: You can sell videos of Minecraft, yes
#1372 [14:45] <minecraftfan> ok thank you bye
#1373 [14:45] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Heh, I'm glad Kubrick left, else I'd have to explain him that running Minecraft with an integrated graphics card is rather.... troublesome.
#1374 [14:45] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: I think he will come back
#1375 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: and I forgot to look at the grapics card section, d'oh
#1376 [14:46] <Morrolan> Yea, chances are he just quit because Mibbit uses Java, true.
#1377 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: when he comes back, tell him we overlooked a bit and tell him his card is outdated
#1378 [14:46] <tyteen4a03> now I shall sleep
#1379 [14:46] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#1380 [14:46] <Morrolan> Good night.
#1381 [14:46] * tyteen4a03 ventures into idleness
#1381 [14:48] <TheFluffyPlayer> about my problem i didnt get any erros in the console
#1382 [14:48] <Morrolan> It shows nothing at all, just freezes?
#1383 [14:48] <TheFluffyPlayer> well im not sure if it freezes it just doesnt move
#1384 [14:49] <TheFluffyPlayer> no respond from server?
#1385 [14:49] <TheFluffyPlayer> are they overloaded'
#1386 [14:49] <TheFluffyPlayer> with todays downloads?
#1387 [14:49] <Morrolan> If the servers had issues, we'd get much more traffic in here.
#1388 [14:49] <Morrolan> Could you just copy the whole stuff it says in the console and put it on pastebin.com nevertheless?
#1389 [14:50] <TheFluffyPlayer> sure just a moment
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#1392 [14:51] <warthog> I can no longer break blocks with my settings, why is this?
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#1394 [14:51] <Morrolan> warthog - How exactly can't you break them? Does your arm not move? Do they reappear?
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#1396 [14:51] <warthog> no it doesn' move
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#1398 [14:52] <TheFluffyPlayer> http://pastebin.com/vxvrWNaL
#1399 [14:52] <Morrolan> warthog - Check your controls, make sure that "Attack" is the button you want to use to destroy blocks, and make sure that no two options share the same key binding.
#1400 [14:53] <TheFluffyPlayer> this is the print scree if it helps http://shrani.si/f/29/3T/2Dfhq1Ym/untitled.png
#1401 [14:53] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - Does the online client work?
#1402 [14:53] <warthog> I do have 2 options sharing the same key but I can't seem to get rid of one
#1403 [14:53] <TheFluffyPlayer> no even the browser doesnt work for me
#1404 [14:54] <Morrolan> warthog - Just select one of them, and press a new key/mouse button.
#1405 [14:54] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - What version of Java are you using? "java -version" in the console will show.
#1406 [14:55] <TheFluffyPlayer> 1.6.0_34
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#1408 [14:55] <warthog> pick block and use item change to the same key selected
#1409 [14:55] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - That one's fine too.
#1410 [14:55] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - Are you 100% sure that you are not running any other security software?
#1411 [14:55] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - Are you 100% sure that you are not running any other security software?
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#1413 [14:56] <Morrolan> warthog - Uh, if you change one of them, both change? oO
#1414 [14:56] <TheFluffyPlayer> i have MSe which has currently off the real time protection
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#1416 [14:56] <TheFluffyPlayer> and win 7 x64 OS
#1417 [14:57] <TheFluffyPlayer> if it helps
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#1419 [14:58] <TheFluffyPlayer> the only thing i havent tried is to try install it on another machine and transfer all the files
#1420 [14:58] <TheFluffyPlayer> BTW the demo worked gret for me few days ago
#1421 [14:58] <themaggot666> does any1 else have like a wierd symbol in the item name when u hover over it with your mouse in your inventory if so how do i get rid of it?
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#1423 [15:01] <themaggot666> please help
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#1425 [15:02] <warthog> I am trying to figure this out for my son... what does pick block do?
#1426 [15:02] <Morrolan> "pick block" is a function which, err, picks a block. Imagine you had stone in your hotbar. Now when you use "pick block" on a placed block of stone, this stone in your hotbar will get selected.
#1427 [15:03] <Morrolan> It is kind of hard to explain, it'll make sense when you try it.
#1428 [15:03] <Morrolan> Either way, did you manage to change one of them already?
#1429 [15:03] <themaggot666> pick block
#1430 [15:04] <TheFluffyPlayer> one more question which java is better java 6 or 7 i found some topic that java 7 causes issue for some people is that correct?
#1431 [15:04] <warthog> thanks for the help, I got it figued and fixed for him.... he's happy now
#1432 [15:04] <themaggot666> if u middle click on a block u wish to have (ex. diamond) and it puts it into your inventory
#1433 [15:04] <Morrolan> warthog - Glad to hear that. :)
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#1435 [15:04] <Morrolan> TheFluffyPlayer - Java 7 is causing several issues indeed. The biggest is that it uses IPv6 by default, which makes it impossible for some people to download files / authenticate etc.
#1436 [15:05] <Morrolan> (Since lots of ISPs aren't IPv6-ready yet)
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#1439 [15:05] <TheFluffyPlayer> ture yes didnt know that tho
#1440 [15:05] <swimmergalz21> why wont norton let me update my server to 1.3.2
#1441 [15:05] <themaggot666> u have norton?
#1442 [15:06] <Morrolan> What does it say when you try to update it?
#1443 [15:06] <themaggot666> get avast
#1444 [15:06] <Morrolan> Every now and then Norton likes to throw around with false positives.
#1445 [15:06] <swimmergalz21> that it isnt safe... i have updated it multiple times in the past and am doing nothing different
#1446 [15:07] <themaggot666> and from what ive heard norton is a fake virus scanner its a virus its self
#1447 [15:07] <TheFluffyPlayer> I presume you have no clue :) so what ill try is to install it on my other machine tomorrow hopefully it will work otherwise i will be back :) thank for all the help bye
#1448 [15:08] <swimmergalz21> no norton scans for computer threats i have used it for years and have never had a virus or anything this is the first problem i have had with it
#1449 [15:08] <Morrolan> Just temporarily disable it / add the folder and website to the exception list / do something else which makes it stop complaining. :)
#1450 [15:10] <themaggot666> does any1 else have like a wierd symbol in the item name when u hover over it with your mouse in your inventory if so how do i get rid of it?
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#1452 [15:16] <Saretha> I got problems with short freezes in the nether does any1 know how to fix it ?
#1453 [15:17] <themaggot666> change around some settings with optifine
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#1455 [15:19] <Jake_Snake> how do i update video card drivers?
#1456 [15:19] <Jake_Snake> every time i try to start the game i get this -Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers.
#1457 [15:24] <themaggot666> does any1 else have like a wierd symbol in the item name when u hover over it with your mouse in your inventory if so how do i get rid of it?
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#1467 [15:41] <danmw3> I cant login to the minecraft website or on the minecraft client. When i login on both the website and the client it says "Login Failed". it has been like this for 2-3 months. I have also been requesting to reset my password but i don't receive any emails from Mojang. Thx
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#1469 [15:43] <GreyVulpine> Check all the email accounts you normally use. Make sure to check the 'spam' folder as well
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#1471 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> If it's not there, you'll need to file a support ticket with mojang inquiring about your account issue at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1472 [15:44] <Rawbbeh> Any idea why a skin I want to use isn't changing when I log into my game when I've uploaded it via the MC website?
#1473 [15:44] <GreyVulpine> Skin server has been acting up the last few days.
#1474 [15:45] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's web dev's been working on the issue.
#1475 [15:45] <Rawbbeh> Well then...
#1476 [15:45] <Rawbbeh> That would explain why then :-)
#1477 [15:45] <danmw3> the email i use for minecraft was deleted but that same day i restored it. I have checked all folders in my email i will go file a ticket
#1478 [15:46] <danmw3> nvm i have already did that
#1479 [15:46] <GreyVulpine> Mojang's support ticket backlog is unfortunately over two months.
#1480 [15:46] <danmw3> about 5 times withen 2 months
#1481 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> It'll take a little time to get a response back from Mojang. Did you also make sure to include your transaction ID as well?
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#1483 [15:47] <danmw3> Yes
#1484 [15:47] <GreyVulpine> Then all you can do right now, is wait.
#1485 [15:47] <danmw3> i have been waiting for about 2-3 months
#1486 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Rawbbeh - http://twitter.com/jeb_/status/236161759210258432
#1487 [15:48] <GreyVulpine> Relevant.
#1488 [15:48] <Rawbbeh> Thanks, I appreciate it
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#1490 [15:49] <danmw3> ok heres another problem
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#1492 [15:50] <danmw3> i cant launch the minecraft client unless i launch it in cmd/batch file
#1493 [15:50] <GreyVulpine> Okay. What happens when you try to launch it normally?
#1494 [15:51] <GreyVulpine> Or could you tell me what the command line you use in the batch file is?
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#1496 [15:53] <danmw3> when i try to launch minecraft it just comes up with a window that makes sure i want to run the program and the cmd line i use is javaw -Xmx1024m -Xms1024m -jar "Minecraft.exe"
#1497 [15:54] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I didn't understand the first part. What does the window say?
#1498 [15:56] <danmw3> Open File - Security Warning The publisher could not be verified. Are you sure you want to run this software? "Run" "Cancel". This windows comes up with a lot of programs i have
#1499 [15:56] <danmw3> i think its normal
#1500 [15:57] <GreyVulpine> Okay, and what happens when you choose Run?
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#1502 [15:58] <danmw3> the windows disappears and then nothing happens
#1503 [15:58] <danmw3> and i also looked in task manager to see if java is running but its not
#1504 [15:58] <GreyVulpine> Where is minecraft.exe located?
#1505 [15:59] <danmw3> Desktop
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#1508 [16:00] <danmw3> My OS is Windows 7 if that helps
#1509 [16:00] <GreyVulpine> Most likely.. it's a security setting in IE that you need to change.
#1510 [16:00] <danmw3> I dont have IE
#1511 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> If you're on Windows, you have IE, even if you don't use it
#1512 [16:01] <danmw3> what type of security problem is it
#1513 [16:01] <GreyVulpine> Try going to your control panel -> Internet options -> security -> look for Local Intranet
#1514 [16:02] <danmw3> i also have Norton anti-virus
#1515 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> I'd try the control panel first
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#1518 [16:02] <GreyVulpine> Under Local Intranet, try sliding down the protection level there.
#1519 [16:03] <GreyVulpine> Then try minecraft.exe again\
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#1521 [16:04] <danmw3> Still didnt work it's still popping up the security warning window and then it disappears
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#1523 [16:05] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, check your control panel -> programs and features list. If you have multiple versions of java installed, try cleanly installing the latest version of java after uninstalling all the older updates
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#1526 [16:07] <danmw3> already did that i have JRE 7 and JDK 7 both 64 bit
#1527 [16:09] <GreyVulpine> Hmm..
#1528 [16:12] <DopeGhoti> ?? java/1.7
#1529 [16:12] <VoxelHead> java/1.7: Java 1.7 known to be incompatible with Minecraft in many cases. Please install Java 1.6. http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
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#1531 [16:14] <Nick_Flamel> I'm back.
#1532 [16:15] <danmw3> I fixed it i think there was something wrong in my registry when installing java
#1533 [16:16] <Nick_Flamel> Does anyone know ho to fix this: http://imgur.com/vqOaa ? I have reinstalled Java, Minecraft, and have tried to played minecraft on a new user on my computer.
#1534 [16:17] <danmw3> wtf never saw that before
#1535 [16:17] <Nick_Flamel> I haven't either.
#1536 [16:17] <Nick_Flamel> I'm running no mods.
#1537 [16:17] <danmw3> are u trying to connect to a server?
#1538 [16:17] <Nick_Flamel> yup.
#1539 [16:18] <danmw3> do u ahve the same minecraft version as the server is running on?
#1540 [16:18] <danmw3> have*
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#1542 [16:18] <xales> Nick_Flamel: Is this one specific server, or any server?
#1543 [16:18] <kyle> migrated my account and i cant log in
#1544 [16:18] <Nick_Flamel> i'm running 1.3.2. The error appeared when i was running 1.3.1 as well.
#1545 [16:19] <xales> kyle: You have to log in with your email address as your username.
#1546 [16:19] <kyle> correct
#1547 [16:19] <xales> Nick_Flamel: Okay, but does it happen on *just one* server, or on *any* server?
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#1549 [16:19] <Nick_Flamel> any server.
#1550 [16:19] <danmw3> are u using a hacked minecraft client such as nodus
#1551 [16:19] <Nick_Flamel> no.
#1552 [16:19] <kyle> i spoke to people and they said to delete the entire minecraft icon and roaming , and now it would not let me
#1553 [16:20] <xales> kyle: Uh, what? Do you get any sort of error message?
#1554 [16:20] <xales> Nick_Flamel: Do you have any sort of firewall or "parental control" software running?
#1555 [16:20] <kyle> its a java system core error
#1556 [16:20] <kyle> i can send it to you by email
#1557 [16:21] <xales> kyle: Please copy the contents of the error to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link.
#1558 [16:21] <Nick_Flamel> I had Vipre antivirus running. It still put out an error.
#1559 [16:21] <xales> Nick_Flamel: Do you have any sort of firewall though?
#1560 [16:22] <Nick_Flamel> I dont think so.
#1561 [16:22] <xales> Hmm.
#1562 [16:23] <kyle> i signed in now what
#1563 [16:23] <danmw3> this might fix it: got to control panel, Internet Options, Security tab, on the tab there should be Local intranet now below that there should be a scroll bar, slide that down all the way
#1564 [16:23] <xales> kyle: You didn't have to sign in to anything.
#1565 [16:23] <kyle> lol oops
#1566 [16:23] <xales> kyle: Just go to pastebin.com, paste the error into the box, and click submit.
#1567 [16:23] <xales> ._.
#1568 [16:23] <xales> Nick_Flamel: Okay; try this:
#1569 [16:23] <xales> ??> Nick_Flamel win/reinst
#1570 [16:24] <VoxelHead> Nick_Flamel: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1571 [16:24] <kyle> ok
#1572 [16:24] <VoxelHead> Nick_Flamel: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1573 [16:24] <xales> Nick_Flamel: Once you do that, go to http://minecraft.net/download and download it again; use the newly downloaded launcher to run it.
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#1575 [16:25] <kyle> ok its there
#1576 [16:26] <kyle> http://pastebin.com/S9yXr3t9
#1577 [16:26] <xales> kyle: You need to update your video card driver.
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#1579 [16:26] <kyle> how? is that hardware or software
#1580 [16:27] <xales> Software.
#1581 [16:27] <xales> Do you know what video card you have?
#1582 [16:27] <kyle> not
#1583 [16:27] <kyle> # Failed to write core dump. ) is that it error?
#1584 [16:27] <xales> What?
#1585 [16:28] <xales> ??> kyle win/dxdiag
#1586 [16:28] <VoxelHead> kyle: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1587 [16:28] <VoxelHead> kyle: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1588 [16:28] <kyle> is that in Run:
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#1590 [16:29] <kyle> i clicked yes and its loading
#1591 [16:30] <kyle> next page?
#1592 [16:30] <GreyVulpine> " click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop."
#1593 [16:30] <kyle> okay its saved
#1594 [16:31] <GreyVulpine> "Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel."
#1595 [16:32] <kyle> http://pastebin.com/cdAXCSQF
#1596 [16:32] <kyle> looks like computer vomit lol
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#1598 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> You've got a ATI Radeon X1270 video card on Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
#1599 [16:34] <GreyVulpine> Try downloading and installing these drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Legacy/Pages/integrated_vista32.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.2.3.2&lang=English
#1600 [16:35] <kyle> Catalyst Software Suite?
#1601 [16:35] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#1602 [16:36] <kyle> ok since its loading, my .minecraft folder is not around anymore i only have a bin. But i saved my saved folder
#1603 [16:36] <kyle> 8 min. load
#1604 [16:37] <Nick_Flamel> got a new launcher, same error.
#1605 [16:37] <xales> GreyVulpine: Ever seen anything like this before? http://imgur.com/vqOaa
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#1607 [16:38] <UrASmurf> Anyone know what this texture is used for in-game? http://oi47.tinypic.com/vgiy5y.jpg
#1608 [16:38] <UrASmurf> I have been playing for over a year, and never found a reason to find out, until now, since I am making a texture pack.
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#1610 [16:40] <UrASmurf> Anyone know what this texture is used for in-game: http://oi47.tinypic.com/vgiy5y.jpg ?
#1611 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> No.. idea
#1612 [16:40] <GreyVulpine> Checked http://media-mcw.cursecdn.com/7/78/TerrainGuide.png ?
#1613 [16:40] <kyle> so i dont have to buy minecraft again?
#1614 [16:40] <UrASmurf> Kyle, what?
#1615 [16:41] <UrASmurf> Oh and Grey, I asked a buddy, and he thinks it might be corners or something for a GUI.
#1616 [16:41] <kyle> if i deleted my whole .minecraft folder would it load everything again?
#1617 [16:41] <UrASmurf> I really have no idea though.
#1618 [16:41] <UrASmurf> Kyle, just open up minecraft.exe again.
#1619 [16:41] <UrASmurf> Log in.
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#1621 [16:41] <UrASmurf> And you should be set to go.
#1622 [16:41] <UrASmurf> +
#1623 [16:41] <kyle> software has 3 min
#1624 [16:42] <UrASmurf> Well.
#1625 [16:42] <UrASmurf> If you delete your .minecraft
#1626 [16:42] <UrASmurf> You only get the default stuff.
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#1628 [16:42] <kyle> oh yea, i migrated my account but i guess it has no effect?
#1629 [16:42] <UrASmurf> You will lose any texture packs/save folders/etc.
#1630 [16:42] <UrASmurf> If you deleted it by hand, then just go into the recycle bin and restore the stuff yu want.
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#1633 [16:43] <UrASmurf> Migrating account? Oh, yeah, now you would log into your account with your email instead of your username.
#1634 [16:43] <Oldman> General question: Say me and a friend want to work on a world together as in designing it. I assume I create the world in Creative mode, but how do I include him in the game? sorry for my newbocity
#1635 [16:43] <UrASmurf> Simple.
#1636 [16:43] <UrASmurf> Let me go get you some links.
#1637 [16:43] <UrASmurf> And no problem, we were all in our "newbocity" phase at some point :3
#1638 [16:44] <Oldman> It's such a great game.
#1639 [16:44] <oldtopman> D:
#1640 [16:44] <oldtopman> Is someone trying to cash in on the famousness?
#1641 [16:44] <oldtopman> Or is it flattery
#1642 [16:45] <Oldman> lol funny. Are you famous? I just tried to choose something different
#1643 [16:45] <UrASmurf> Oldman.
#1644 [16:45] <oldtopman> Nah, I'm just giving you a hard time :P
#1645 [16:45] <Oldman> hehe
#1646 [16:45] <UrASmurf> Go here: http://www.minecraft.net/download for the default server files.
#1647 [16:45] <UrASmurf> Go to the server one, under the first.
#1648 [16:45] <Oldman> ahh interesting. So I run my own little server. cool
#1649 [16:45] <kyle> ok ATi downloaded
#1650 [16:46] <UrASmurf> Unless you want bukkit, which is a hell of a lot handier, but more complicated.
#1651 [16:46] <oldtopman> Oldman: Are you and the friend at the same house?
#1652 [16:46] <UrASmurf> ^ was about to ask.
#1653 [16:46] <Oldman> yes we are in the same house
#1654 [16:46] <UrASmurf> Lol.
#1655 [16:46] <UrASmurf> Then server is easy.
#1656 [16:46] <UrASmurf> Forget that link.
#1657 [16:46] <oldtopman> Oldman: Then you want a local multiplayer setup.
#1658 [16:46] <kyle> express or custom
#1659 [16:46] <UrASmurf> Just go on your world.
#1660 [16:46] <Oldman> listening
#1661 [16:46] <UrASmurf> Single player.
#1662 [16:47] <UrASmurf> And If I remember correctly.
#1663 [16:47] <UrASmurf> hit ESC.
#1664 [16:47] <UrASmurf> And click open to lan.
#1665 [16:47] <UrASmurf> Then your friend will go on multiplayer servers button, hit that, and wait for your lan game to pop up.
#1666 [16:47] <UrASmurf> You have separate computers right?
#1667 [16:47] <Oldman> yes.
#1668 [16:48] <UrASmurf> Cool.
#1669 [16:48] <UrASmurf> Just follow what I said up there.
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#1671 [16:48] <Oldman> ok I will try that. Will this allow us to turn on cheats so we can quickly teraform etc
#1672 [16:48] <oldtopman> No.
#1673 [16:48] <UrASmurf> Well.
#1674 [16:48] <oldtopman> For that you need to run a bukkit server locally.
#1675 [16:48] <UrASmurf> Atually.
#1676 [16:48] <UrASmurf> You can.
#1677 [16:48] <oldtopman> D:
#1678 [16:48] <UrASmurf> When you make your world.
#1679 [16:48] <Oldman> listening
#1680 [16:48] * oldtopman listens
#1680 [16:49] <UrASmurf> In options.
#1681 [16:49] <UrASmurf> There will be a button that says enable cheats.
#1682 [16:49] <UrASmurf> This will allow creative/give command/etc.
#1683 [16:49] * oldtopman was thinking about something else
#1683 [16:49] <UrASmurf> If you want to be able to select an area of land and build a wall 100x100 or something.
#1684 [16:49] <UrASmurf> You need worldedit :P
#1685 [16:49] <kyle> ok i may have to restart cpu
#1686 [16:50] <Oldman> nice. okay thanks all =)
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#1688 [16:50] <UrASmurf> No problem.
#1689 [16:50] <UrASmurf> Monsieur Oldman.
#1690 [16:50] <UrASmurf> :D
#1691 [16:50] <Oldman> lol
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#1693 [16:51] <UrASmurf> Anyone else need help? :3 This is fun.
#1694 [16:51] <BlueDragon54611> I need help
#1695 [16:51] <UrASmurf> State your question! :D
#1696 [16:51] <BlueDragon54611> after i log in it says i have a bad driver
#1697 [16:52] <oldtopman> ??> BlueDragon54611 gpu/update
#1698 [16:52] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (gpu/update) You probably need to update your video drivers. See gpu/amd, gpu/intel, or gpu/nvidia for links to their respective driver download pages.
#1699 [16:52] <UrASmurf> Yeah.
#1700 [16:52] <oldtopman> UrASmurf: As long as you're helping - did anybody teach you how to use VoxelHead?
#1701 [16:52] <UrASmurf> That usually means something is wrong with your video cards.
#1702 [16:52] <BlueDragon54611> i can put the script on pastebin...so ui see what it says
#1703 [16:52] <UrASmurf> Oldtopman: Uh. No. What is that? ;3
#1704 [16:52] <oldtopman> D:
#1705 [16:52] <oldtopman> UrASmurf: Can I PM you?
#1706 [16:52] <BlueDragon54611> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 16/08/12 21:49 - Minecraft Version: 1.3.2 - Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) Client V
#1707 [16:52] <UrASmurf> Sure.
#1708 [16:53] <BlueDragon54611> thats what it said
#1709 [16:53] <oldtopman> right
#1710 [16:53] <oldtopman> BlueDragon54611: You need to update your graphics card.
#1711 [16:53] <UrASmurf> Why would anyone teach me how to use voxelhead? :3
#1712 [16:53] <BlueDragon54611> how do i do that
#1713 [16:53] <oldtopman> UrASmurf: I'm teaching you now in PM :P
#1714 [16:53] <oldtopman> ??> BlueDragon54611 win/dxdiag/bat
#1715 [16:53] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1716 [16:53] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1717 [16:54] <oldtopman> BlueDragon54611: Do what VoxelHead tells you to do.
#1718 [16:54] <kyle> http://pastebin.com/30MDWUBp is this good to go?
#1719 [16:55] <oldtopman> ??> kyle not/you
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#1721 [16:55] <kyle> ?
#1722 [16:55] <rommels> got an odd problem if anyone is about :S?
#1723 [16:55] <UrASmurf> Sure.
#1724 [16:55] <oldtopman> derp
#1725 [16:55] <oldtopman> ??> kyle only/you
#1726 [16:55] <VoxelHead> kyle: (only/you) Moved to irc/multitasking
#1727 [16:56] <oldtopman> ??> kyle irc/multitasking
#1728 [16:56] <VoxelHead> kyle: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#1729 [16:56] <rommels> standard mc client (fresh installed) several times... connect to survival server in survival mode... but still have the creative item select screen...
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#1732 [16:57] <oldtopman> rommels: All servers or just one?
#1733 [16:57] <rommels> all servers
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#1735 [16:57] <oldtopman> rommels: Try this
#1736 [16:57] <oldtopman> ??> rommels win/reinst/bat
#1737 [16:57] <VoxelHead> rommels: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1738 [16:57] <VoxelHead> rommels: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1739 [16:58] <kyle> only/oldtopman how to transport old worlds to LAN
#1740 [16:58] <rommels> ok will give that a go, 1 mo
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#1742 [16:58] <oldtopman> kyle: Just move call the world what is specified in the server.properties.
#1743 [16:59] <BlueDragon54611> http://pastebin.com/cL4VZ8w4
#1744 [16:59] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
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#1746 [16:59] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1747 [16:59] <Smanly> waddafaq
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#1749 [16:59] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Hi.
#1750 [16:59] <xales> You need to follow VoxelHead's instructions:
#1751 [16:59] <xales> ??> BlueDragon54611 win/dxdiag
#1752 [16:59] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1753 [17:00] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1754 [17:00] <BlueDragon54611> http://pastebin.com/cL4VZ8w4 this is my problem
#1755 [17:00] <Smanly> -_-
#1756 [17:00] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Yes, you've said that now several times.
#1757 [17:00] <BlueDragon54611> can u give me link ?
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#1759 [17:00] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Follow VoxelHead's instructions.
#1760 [17:00] <Smanly> >>
#1761 [17:00] <BlueDragon54611> ok
#1762 [17:00] <xales> If you can't do that, then we can't help you.
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#1764 [17:02] <BlueDragon54611> win+R dxdiag
#1765 [17:02] <kyle> thanks
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#1768 [17:02] <xales> BlueDragon54611: What?
#1769 [17:03] <BlueDragon54611> there is no win key
#1770 [17:03] <Smanly> What version of windows are you on?
#1771 [17:03] <xales> ??> BlueDragon54611 win/key/image
#1772 [17:03] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/key/image) WARNING: May not appear exactly as shown. http://daily-grind.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Windows-Key-722215.jpg
#1773 [17:04] <xales> ??> BlueDragon54611 win/key
#1774 [17:04] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/key) Hold down the Windows key (between Control and Alt, usually to the left of the space bar), and then press the other specified key. Think of it as typing a capital letter, but using that key instead of Shift.
#1775 [17:05] <BlueDragon54611> i did it now i'll give minecraft a try
#1776 [17:06] <xales> BlueDragon54611: No, you didn't.
#1777 [17:06] <xales> BlueDragon54611: You have to follow *all* of the instructions.
#1778 [17:06] <xales> They will tell us what you need to install to make Minecraft work.
#1779 [17:06] <BlueDragon54611> i did
#1780 [17:06] <xales> It will not magically fix Minecraft.
#1781 [17:06] <xales> No, you didn't.
#1782 [17:06] <xales> Once you open dxdiag, you need to save the information to a file. Then you need to open the file.
#1783 [17:06] <xales> Then you copy what's in the file to http://pastebin.com/ and give us the link to it.
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#1790 [17:12] <BlueDragon54611> i need help
#1791 [17:12] <BlueDragon54611> http://pastebin.com/cL4VZ8w4 thats the problem
#1792 [17:12] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1793 [17:12] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1794 [17:12] <xales> BlueDragon54611: We've already told you what to do.
#1795 [17:12] <xales> If you can't follow these basic instructions, then we can't help you.
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#1797 [17:12] <xales> I'm not going to repeat myself again.
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#1799 [17:15] <rommels> vox /oldman .. tried that and when i connect still the same issue i have the creative item window stuck as on, no other players have the issue and the server confirms im in mode 0 :S ideas?
#1800 [17:15] <xales> rommels: It could be a bug on the server, have you tried a different one?
#1801 [17:15] <oldtopman> hrm
#1802 [17:16] <rommels> xales > not as of yet as the client has a few mods to connect to this bukkit server
#1803 [17:16] <rommels> on my local server it dosent ahve an issue however
#1804 [17:16] <xales> rommels: Ah. That could easily be part of the problem, then.
#1805 [17:16] <xales> It does sound like an issue on the server's side though.
#1806 [17:17] <rommels> indeed i we deleted the entire word and player data files and it still occures ... but only effects me
#1807 [17:17] <rommels> i can change to mode 1 and back when opped to resolve but when relogging the issue occures
#1808 [17:17] <xales> Could be an issue with the mods you are running, or a server bug or something.
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#1811 [17:18] <rommels> would seem to make sense but effecting only 1 player?
#1812 [17:18] <xales> Could be a local issue with the mods or something, or just the server crapping out or something.
#1813 [17:18] <xales> I honestly don't know.
#1814 [17:18] <xales> But, since you are using Bukkit and client-side mods, you can expect funny behavior like that. They are third-party/unsupported for a reason
#1815 [17:18] <rommels> aye has me scratching my head also.. ehnce thinking here more heads senario
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#1817 [17:19] <rommels> i would think that but as i say same files config from a working other player also cause the issue
#1818 [17:20] <xales> I honestly don't know what to tell you. You'd probably have more luck asking in #bukkit or something.
#1819 [17:20] <rommels> aye will give that a go :/
#1820 [17:20] <BlueDragon54611> http://pastebin.com/F6QncwMQ
#1821 [17:20] <BlueDragon54611> there
#1822 [17:20] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Okay, one minute please.
#1823 [17:21] * xales pokes GreyVulpine
#1823 [17:21] <BlueDragon54611> np im a different person
#1824 [17:21] <BlueDragon54611> guy u were chating with left
#1825 [17:21] <BlueDragon54611> he gotstressd
#1826 [17:23] <xales> Does the computer have a "service tag" on it?
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#1828 [17:23] <xales> "Your Service Tag is a unique five- or seven-digit alphanumeric (letter and number) code, which is found on a white bar-coded label affixed to your Dell computer or peripheral. "
#1829 [17:23] <BlueDragon54611> idk/
#1830 [17:23] <hoverdoid> hi,, my minecraft crashes nd i dont have any mods on this cpu
#1831 [17:23] <BlueDragon54611> il check give me a sec
#1832 [17:23] <hoverdoid> what do i do?
#1833 [17:24] <hoverdoid> k
#1834 [17:24] <xales> hoverdoid: If you give us more information about how it crashes, maybe we could tell you why or how to fix it.
#1835 [17:24] <BlueDragon54611> xales i cant find it
#1836 [17:24] <xales> BlueDragon54611: http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/kcs/document?docid=DSN_161942&isLegacy=True
#1837 [17:24] <hoverdoid> ill send the the error msg
#1838 [17:24] <BlueDragon54611> will that help?
#1839 [17:24] <hoverdoid> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 16/08/12 23:21 - Minecraft Version: 1.3.2 - Operating System: Windows XP (x86) version 5.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0_05, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) Client
#1840 [17:25] <rommels> xales > sorry to keep pestering.. deff a server side (confirmed) which files if any would store or force a setting for mode to a client (if you know?)?
#1841 [17:25] <xales> rommels: The "<playername>.dat" file
#1842 [17:25] <hoverdoid> no
#1843 [17:25] <xales> hoverdoid: Update your video card driver, just like the message says.
#1844 [17:26] <hoverdoid> dont know how on this, its my cousins cpu and its really old
#1845 [17:26] <xales> hoverdoid: If it's very old, it's unlikely that it will be able to run Minecraft.
#1846 [17:26] <hoverdoid> aww
#1847 [17:27] <hoverdoid> was bored on this
#1848 [17:28] <BlueDragon54611> whats this suppose to do????
#1849 [17:28] <BlueDragon54611> del.com/
#1850 [17:28] <BlueDragon54611> i might just leave it..
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#1853 [17:28] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Well, if you don't want to follow the instructions, then you won't be able to play Minecraft.
#1854 [17:29] <BlueDragon54611> it cant find my service tag.....
#1855 [17:29] <BlueDragon54611> dell.com......
#1856 [17:30] <xales> Okay, well.
#1857 [17:30] <xales> Based on the information that was provided, your computer doesn't appear to be anywhere near the minimum requirements to play Minecraft.
#1858 [17:30] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#1859 [17:32] <BlueDragon54611> il try to find my service tag again...
#1860 [17:32] <UrASmurf> Wow.
#1861 [17:32] <BlueDragon54611> then what? after that/
#1862 [17:32] <UrASmurf> Anyone's computer can run MC T_T
#1863 [17:32] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Finding your service tag doesn't magically fix the problem.
#1864 [17:32] <UrASmurf> You must have a pretty old one.
#1865 [17:32] <xales> UrASmurf: It has 1GB of RAM and lacks a real video card, so yeah.
#1866 [17:32] <BlueDragon54611> wait!! foun dit!!
#1867 [17:32] <UrASmurf> Dang.
#1868 [17:32] <UrASmurf> Only 1gb.
#1869 [17:33] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Okay, what is it...?
#1870 [17:33] <BlueDragon54611> hold on i cant really read it..too dark
#1871 [17:33] <xales> ._.
#1872 [17:33] <UrASmurf> He is hiding from his parents :3
#1873 [17:33] <BlueDragon54611> why u need to know it/
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#1875 [17:33] <xales> BlueDragon54611: It is like a model number, but more specific.
#1876 [17:33] <xales> It says what is in the computer.
#1877 [17:34] <BlueDragon54611> Brpk81J
#1878 [17:34] <BlueDragon54611> THATS IT
#1879 [17:35] <BlueDragon54611> now what?
#1880 [17:35] <xales> That's not a valid service tag.
#1881 [17:35] <BlueDragon54611> what?
#1882 [17:35] <BlueDragon54611> BRPK81J
#1883 [17:35] <xales> Yes, it's invalid.
#1884 [17:36] <xales> You read it wrong or something.
#1885 [17:36] <BlueDragon54611> letters or number below it?
#1886 [17:36] <xales> What?
#1887 [17:36] <BlueDragon54611> long line of numbers below it
#1888 [17:36] <BlueDragon54611> very small
#1889 [17:37] <xales> Make sure you read the service tag correctly.
#1890 [17:37] <BlueDragon54611> Its right BRPK81J
#1891 [17:37] <BlueDragon54611> thats whats der
#1892 [17:38] <xales> Huh, okay then.
#1893 [17:38] <xales> Do you know about how old the computer is?
#1894 [17:38] <BlueDragon54611> well when u luk at the file on pastebin it says 2004... i guess
#1895 [17:39] <BlueDragon54611> i got it a few years ago but i think it was restored..
#1896 [17:39] <xales> That would be the date the driver was signed, not the date the computer was manufactured or whatever.
#1897 [17:39] <BlueDragon54611> oh
#1898 [17:39] <xales> Anyway, the computer does appear to be a very, very old model.
#1899 [17:39] <BlueDragon54611> oh no
#1900 [17:39] <xales> Even when it was new, it was /not/ meant for playing games, of any sort.
#1901 [17:39] <xales> It does not meet the minimum requirements to run Minecraft, by far.
#1902 [17:40] <BlueDragon54611> Dell Dimension 8400
#1903 [17:40] <BlueDragon54611> is writin on the moniter
#1904 [17:40] <xales> Yes, I know.
#1905 [17:40] <BlueDragon54611> how?
#1906 [17:40] <xales> It was in the pastebin info.
#1907 [17:40] <xales> Anyway, for future reference, the system requirements can be found here:
#1908 [17:40] <xales> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
#1909 [17:40] <BlueDragon54611> what will dat do for me?
#1910 [17:41] <xales> It tells you what your computer needs to have in order to play Minecraft.
#1911 [17:41] <BlueDragon54611> right but what exactly do i need to update? it says bad graphics card???
#1912 [17:41] <xales> Yes. As I've said, your computer is too old to run Minecraft.
#1913 [17:41] <xales> You cannot get Minecraft to run on it, and based on the age of it, it would probably be a better idea to just buy a new computer. Cheaper.
#1914 [17:42] <BlueDragon54611> will i update java?
#1915 [17:42] <BlueDragon54611> oh...
#1916 [17:42] <BlueDragon54611> it was built in 2005
#1917 [17:42] <xales> Yeah, that's 7 years ago.
#1918 [17:42] <xales> In terms of computers, that's ancient.
#1919 [17:43] <BlueDragon54611> really?
#1920 [17:43] <BlueDragon54611> i know people who stilll have windows 98...
#1921 [17:43] <xales> Well, that's slightly absurd.
#1922 [17:43] <Smanly> They aren't playing Games
#1923 [17:43] <xales> And that, as well.
#1924 [17:43] <BlueDragon54611> so can u tell me what u think is the problem?
#1925 [17:43] <Smanly> Maybe some minesweeper.
#1926 [17:44] <Smanly> Also, thats just an OS.
#1927 [17:44] <xales> BlueDragon54611: I've already told you, multiple times.
#1928 [17:44] <Smanly> You could run it on a new machine.
#1929 [17:44] <xales> Your computer is TOO OLD to run Minecraft.
#1930 [17:44] <xales> You cannot, under any circumstances, ever make it run on that computer.
#1931 [17:44] <xales> I don't know what could possibly be difficult to understand about that.
#1932 [17:44] <BlueDragon54611> so the graphics card or driver? be more PACIFIC!!!!
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#1934 [17:44] <xales> The Pacific is the name of an ocean body.
#1935 [17:44] <xales> I think the word you are looking for is "specific"
#1936 [17:45] <BlueDragon54611> yea whatever
#1937 [17:45] <Smanly> ...
#1938 [17:45] <xales> But, regardless, the issue is that you do not meet the minimum requirements for a number of reasons.
#1939 [17:45] <BlueDragon54611> so its too old..:(
#1940 [17:45] <xales> Yes.
#1941 [17:45] <Smanly> Yes.
#1942 [17:45] <BlueDragon54611> so what now?
#1943 [17:45] <Smanly> Bye a new one?
#1944 [17:45] <xales> Get a new computer or don't play Minecraft.
#1945 [17:45] <Smanly> >Bye
#1946 [17:45] <BlueDragon54611> no wait
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#1948 [17:45] <Smanly> No... Im not saying bye.
#1949 [17:45] <BlueDragon54611> on that pastebin file yea? does it have all my systems information
#1950 [17:46] <xales> Yes, it does.
#1951 [17:46] <BlueDragon54611> ok i can compare it to minecraft requirments
#1952 [17:46] <Smanly> What's his dxdiag?
#1953 [17:46] <xales> Yeah, that would be why I gave them to you in the first place.
#1954 [17:46] <Smanly> I cant find the link.
#1955 [17:46] <xales> Smanly: http://pastebin.com/F6QncwMQ
#1956 [17:46] <BlueDragon54611> oh ok brb
#1957 [17:47] <Smanly> You could try running it with like no ram.
#1958 [17:47] <Smanly> It may make it exsplode.
#1959 [17:47] <xales> Smanly: Problem is the video card, not RAM.
#1960 [17:47] * Me4502|away is now known as :Me4502
#1961 [17:47] <Smanly> Oh, that too.
#1962 [17:47] <BlueDragon54611> i dont know what my GMD is
#1963 [17:47] <Smanly> I forgot 'bout that.
#1964 [17:47] <Smanly> GMD?
#1965 [17:48] <xales> Smanly: I think they mean GPU
#1966 [17:48] <Smanly> Oh.
#1967 [17:48] <BlueDragon54611> wait i had a similarprob on my laptop but i fixed that
#1968 [17:48] <xales> BlueDragon54611: For all intents and purposes, you don't even have one.
#1969 [17:48] <xales> Well, if the game works on your laptop, then play it on your laptop.
#1970 [17:48] <BlueDragon54611> so i should update driver?
#1971 [17:48] <xales> No.
#1972 [17:48] <BlueDragon54611> why not/
#1973 [17:48] <xales> Even if you update the driver, it will NOT WORK.
#1974 [17:49] <Smanly> BlueDragon54611: What do you want us to tell you?
#1975 [17:49] <xales> There is NOTHING YOU CAN DO to make it work.
#1976 [17:49] <BlueDragon54611> im trying to be positive
#1977 [17:49] <Smanly> Ok, all you need to do is buy new equipment.
#1978 [17:49] * Disori|off is now known as :Disori
#1979 [17:49] <BlueDragon54611> but i don twnat to..
#1980 [17:49] <Smanly> Preferably from this decade.
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#1982 [17:49] <xales> ??> BlueDragon54611 minspecs
#1983 [17:49] <VoxelHead> BlueDragon54611: (minspecs) There is no software magic that can make your hardware meet the minimum specifications that are required by the game.
#1984 [17:49] <BlueDragon54611> very funny..
#1985 [17:50] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Okay.
#1986 [17:50] <BlueDragon54611> can u compare the requirments
#1987 [17:50] <xales> I'm going to spell this out very clearly for you.
#1988 [17:50] <xales> YOUR COMPUTER CANNOT RUN MINECRAFT.
#1989 [17:50] <xales> EVER.
#1990 [17:50] <xales> BUY A NEW ONE.
#1991 [17:50] <BlueDragon54611> your suppose to help me...
#1992 [17:50] <xales> Yeah.
#1993 [17:50] <xales> Buy a new computer.
#1994 [17:50] <xales> Minecraft cannot run on your computer.
#1995 [17:50] <Smanly> Or, Upgrade every part in it.
#1996 [17:50] <xales> So what do you want us to do?
#1997 [17:50] <BlueDragon54611> dat dont help
#1998 [17:50] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Oh, sorry, okay.
#1999 [17:51] <BlueDragon54611> but my computer runs Roblox!!
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#2001 [17:51] <xales> Here, one problem is that you don't have enough RAM to play Minecraft.
#2002 [17:51] <Smanly> Ok, play that.
#2003 [17:51] <BlueDragon54611> roblox studio
#2004 [17:51] <xales> But
#2005 [17:51] <xales> You can download more RAM.
#2006 [17:51] <BlueDragon54611> no i hate roblox
#2007 [17:51] <xales> http://downloadmoreram.com/
#2008 [17:51] <Smanly> I forgot about that!
#2009 [17:51] <xales> Go download 4GB of RAM, then Minecraft should work.
#2010 [17:51] <monoxboogie> I am trying to play the demo to see if i would like to eventually buy minecraft, but it is not showing up.
#2011 [17:51] <BlueDragon54611> is it my RAM? U have not specified the requirement
#2012 [17:51] <xales> monoxboogie: The demo doesn't work at the moment, unfortunately.
#2013 [17:51] <Smanly> xales: Is the demo now only in browser?
#2014 [17:52] <xales> monoxboogie: Actually, wait
#2015 [17:52] <xales> Smanly: Yeah, it is
#2016 [17:52] <xales> monoxboogie: Demo is here: http://www.minecraft.net/demo
#2017 [17:52] <monoxboogie> Thank you.
#2018 [17:52] <BlueDragon54611> well?
#2019 [17:52] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Do you know what a DVD is?
#2020 [17:52] <BlueDragon54611> yea i do..
#2021 [17:53] <monoxboogie> It is not showing up. The only thing that shows up is the "buy now" button.
#2022 [17:53] <xales> BlueDragon54611: Do you know what a VHS tape is?
#2023 [17:53] <xales> monoxboogie: Are you logged in?
#2024 [17:53] <monoxboogie> Is it because i am trying to play on a mac?
#2025 [17:53] <monoxboogie> Yes I am,
#2026 [17:53] <Smanly> monoxboogie: Log out
#2027 [17:53] <monoxboogie> .
#2028 [17:53] <xales> It has nothing to do with what operating system you use.
#2029 [17:53] <BlueDragon54611> ok fine...I will not recomend Minecraft Help Support to any of my friends as u are taking the piss out of me
#2030 [17:54] <xales> BlueDragon54611: That's great.
#2031 [17:54] <Smanly> We are what?
#2032 [17:54] <xales> We don't care.
#2033 [17:54] <xales> We actually *prefer* it that way.
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#2035 [17:54] <Smanly> QQ
#2036 [17:54] <monoxboogie> Still nothing.
#2037 [17:54] <xales> monoxboogie: What browser are you using?
#2038 [17:54] <Smanly> Go to that page again without being logged in.
#2039 [17:54] <monoxboogie> Firefox.
#2040 [17:55] <xales> Smanly: They will be back, just wait >_>
#2041 [17:55] <Smanly> ;_:
#2042 [17:55] <xales> monoxboogie: Do you know how to clear cookies/cache?
#2043 [17:55] <monoxboogie> Not on a mac, no. I am new to macs.
#2044 [17:55] <Smanly> Hold on.
#2045 [17:55] <Smanly> Have you tried what i said
#2046 [17:55] <Smanly> ?
#2047 [17:55] <Smanly> It worked for me.
#2048 [17:56] <monoxboogie> Yes I did.
#2049 [17:56] <Smanly> What happened?
#2050 [17:56] <monoxboogie> The same thing.
#2051 [17:56] <Smanly> Which is?
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#2053 [17:57] <speterl> How do I install mods?
#2054 [17:57] <monoxboogie> It says "I can play the demo below, or if i like what i see i can buy now" And the buy now button shows up, nothing else.
#2055 [17:57] <Smanly> ??>> speterl mods
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#2057 [17:58] <xales> monoxboogie: Try using a different browser, perhaps.
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#2059 [17:58] <Smanly> xales: May me the cache but probably Java or something.
#2060 [17:58] <xales> yeah
#2061 [17:58] <xales> I have to go for a few minutes, but i'll be back
#2062 [17:58] <xales> Smanly: have fun
#2063 [17:58] <Smanly> o/
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#2068 [18:07] <pataul97> hi?
#2069 [18:07] <pataul97> i want to talk to xales
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#2074 [18:08] <johnson_> i ant to talk top one og your techsupport/
#2075 [18:08] <johnson_> i have a problem
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#2124 [18:26] <Aa> hello
#2125 [18:26] <Boreeas> Hi, can we help you?
#2126 [18:26] <xales> Hi.
#2127 [18:26] <Aa> uh i bought minecraft a couple hours ago
#2128 [18:27] <Aa> and i still don't have premeium
#2129 [18:27] <xales> Did you get an email confirming the transaction?
#2130 [18:27] <Aa> no
#2131 [18:27] <Aa> why
#2132 [18:27] <xales> Did you try to use a prepaid or "gift" card?
#2133 [18:27] <Aa> no
#2134 [18:27] <xales> Okay.
#2135 [18:27] <Aa> what should i do
#2136 [18:28] <xales> There's currently a bug with the payment processing, where it will tell you it failed, and when you go back to minecraft.net, it will say it succeeded.
#2137 [18:28] <xales> Even though minecraft.net doesn't actually know.
#2138 [18:28] <DiskDaemon> Aa: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#2139 [18:28] <Aa> i have already read that
#2140 [18:28] <DiskDaemon> Aa: DOes your bank account show the transaction yet?
#2141 [18:28] <Aa> no
#2142 [18:29] <Aa> it just says pending
#2143 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> Aa: "Please double check your bank account to verify if you were charged. Since you will not be able to purchase a premium account twice on the same username, if you were not charged, you may wish to try your purchase again."
#2144 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, it says pending - okay
#2145 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> Aa: Contact your bank.
#2146 [18:29] <DiskDaemon> Aa: Then after that, contact Moneybookers
#2147 [18:30] <Aa> it says pending transactions 28.50
#2148 [18:30] <Aa> who is money bookers
#2149 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> Moneybookers are the processing agent that Mojang use to process credit cards
#2150 [18:31] <DiskDaemon> Aa: Mojang do nothing until they have been notified by Moneybookers that the payment has cleared.
#2151 [18:31] <Aa> oh
#2152 [18:32] <Aa> so what link should i use to contact money bookers
#2153 [18:32] <xales> Aa: You need to contact your bank, not MoneyBookers.
#2154 [18:32] <DiskDaemon> So contact your bank.
#2155 [18:32] <Aa> ok
#2156 [18:32] <Aa> what should i tell my bank
#2157 [18:32] <xales> Ask them why the transaction is pending.
#2158 [18:33] <Aa> ok
#2159 [18:33] <xales> They may be holding/denying the transaction because it is international.
#2160 [18:33] <DiskDaemon> Tell your bank that you want to know why it's pending, and how long it will take
#2161 [18:33] <Aa> oh
#2162 [18:33] <Aa> ok
#2163 [18:33] <Aa> then what
#2164 [18:34] <xales> Shortly after the transaction clears (usually within an hour), you will have premium.
#2165 [18:34] <xales> well, should, anyway
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#2167 [18:34] <Aa> ok then what do i do
#2168 [18:35] <Aa> like what should i download
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#2170 [18:35] <xales> Uh, then you would download the game from minecraft.net
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#2173 [18:36] <Liam> Hi anyone here
#2174 [18:36] <Liam> that can help?
#2175 [18:37] <DiskDaemon> sure
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#2184 [18:54] <Dina> how do i set up my son to play multiplayer??? im lost
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#2187 [18:55] <DiskDaemon> ?? smp/servers
#2188 [18:55] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: There currently is no master list of all SMP servers. Fan-made indexes include http://minestatus.net/ - http://www.mcserverlist.net/ - http://www.reddit.com/r/mcservers - http://minecraftservers.net/ - http://minecraft.dk/mcserverlist/
#2189 [18:55] <VoxelHead> smp/servers: You can also find a list at the MC forums at http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum/31-servers/ . Also, try the #smp channel.
#2190 [18:58] <Dina> i have no clue how to set up multiplayer
#2191 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> Dina: Find a server, and connect to that server.
#2192 [18:59] <Dina> im sorry how do i find one ?
#2193 [18:59] <DiskDaemon> VoxelHead provided a list of places where you can find them
#2194 [19:00] <Dina> ok thank you
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#2199 [19:01] <bub> okay I put mod into mincraft filr but when I play I dont see them
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#2201 [19:02] <bub> hello
#2202 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> sorry bub - we don't support mods here.
#2203 [19:02] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#2204 [19:02] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#2205 [19:02] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#2206 [19:03] <bub> okay
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#2213 [19:17] <Kanegasi> looking at voxelhead's response for mods, i think the wording for the bukkit part should be "For bukkit help, join #bukkit". a lot of people that use webchat have no clue what irc is
#2214 [19:18] <Kanegasi> it could even say "type /join #bukkit"
#2215 [19:22] <DopeGhoti> For IRC lessons, I send people to #help.
#2216 [19:24] <DiskDaemon> Good idea - does such a long multiline faq entry require someone with more direct access to make such a change?
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#2220 [19:27] <oldtopman> Kanegasi, DiskDaemon try shortmods
#2221 [19:27] <oldtopman> (which I just added, so don't feel bad)
#2222 [19:27] <Kanegasi> shortmods?
#2223 [19:28] <DiskDaemon> is there documentation somewhere on that?
#2224 [19:28] <Kanegasi> and yea, sending them to #help might work, but you'd have to tell them to /join #help as well
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#2226 [19:28] <oldtopman> ?? shortmods
#2227 [19:28] <VoxelHead> shortmods: We do not support mods. For help, try google. For bukkit, ask in #bukkit by typing "/join #bukkit"
#2228 [19:29] <DiskDaemon> ahh, I thought it was something more complex, providing the ability to modify parts of a faq entry :)
#2229 [19:30] <DiskDaemon> Could that be renamed to something more in line with existing usage, such as ?? mods/short
#2230 [19:30] <oldtopman> hmm
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#2232 [19:31] <oldtopman> DiskDaemon: As you wish
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#2234 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> ??+ mods/short We do not support mods. For help, try google. For bukkit, ask in #bukkit by typing "/join #bukkit"
#2235 [19:34] <Kanegasi> aha, i understand now oldtopman
#2236 [19:34] <DiskDaemon> I'll have permissions issue (yes)
#2237 [19:35] <oldtopman> DiskDaemon: I added that already >.>
#2238 [19:35] <oldtopman> Exactly like that >.>
#2239 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> aha :)
#2240 [19:36] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods/short
#2241 [19:36] <VoxelHead> mods/short: We do not support mods. For help, try google. For bukkit, ask in #bukkit by typing "/join #bukkit"
#2242 [19:38] <DiskDaemon> How often is the index updated? Is it a regularly timed event?
#2243 [19:42] <IosefKoranison> Okay, so I am back.
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#2245 [19:43] <IosefKoranison> Is anybody here able to help me set up the minecraft server on the virtual machine I was setting up? I haven't finished setting up the machine I don't think. DopeGhoti had me install e-links, screen and wget.
#2246 [19:44] <oldtopman> Perhaps
#2247 [19:44] <oldtopman> Command line linux I take it?
#2248 [19:45] <IosefKoranison> Yeah I think so. It's got ubuntu on it.
#2249 [19:45] <IosefKoranison> It looks a lot like DOS.
#2250 [19:45] <Smanly> ...they only fixed 2 bugs in 1.3.2? What.
#2251 [19:45] <oldtopman> "wget https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft_server.jar"
#2252 [19:46] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: Run that command and let me know when it's done.
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#2254 [19:47] <IosefKoranison> And without the "" I assume?
#2255 [19:48] <Tboneman> All my servers, worlds, and texture packs are missing!!!
#2256 [19:48] <IosefKoranison> Sorry about that, I was hungry and I ate them.
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#2259 [19:48] <Tboneman> How can i get them back?
#2260 [19:49] <Smanly> wait a few days?
#2261 [19:49] <Smanly> They wont be in the same condition though.
#2262 [19:49] <Tboneman> I want to play on my new singleplayer world!
#2263 [19:49] <Smanly> Your new one?
#2264 [19:50] <Smanly> Tboneman: What happened to your files?
#2265 [19:50] <Tboneman> they are gone
#2266 [19:50] <Smanly> Why?
#2267 [19:50] <Tboneman> but my folder is still there
#2268 [19:50] <Smanly> What did you do to them?
#2269 [19:51] <Tboneman> and it has everything in it
#2270 [19:51] <Smanly> What...
#2271 [19:51] <IosefKoranison> When I tried to run the command it gave me a 404.
#2272 [19:51] <Smanly> What command?
#2273 [19:51] <Smanly> Oh, lol
#2274 [19:52] <Smanly> nvm
#2275 [19:52] <Tboneman> ti was playing 5 mis ago, then i logged out, then i logged back in and they were gone!
#2276 [19:52] <Smanly> Tboneman: Do you have a premium minecraft account?
#2277 [19:52] <Tboneman> ti bought minecraft, why?
#2278 [19:52] <Smanly> Are you using the lanucher from Minecraft.net?
#2279 [19:53] <Tboneman> yea...
#2280 [19:53] <IosefKoranison> The download is done.
#2281 [19:53] <Smanly> Try closing and reopening minecraft, Tboneman.
#2282 [19:54] <Tboneman> kk
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#2286 [19:59] <IosefKoranison> I say, oldtopman, where have you popped off to old bean? Sorry, oldtopman makes me think old man and old bean and top hats.
#2287 [20:00] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: I've just trotted down to a diferrent channel, sorry about that dear boy. Anything I can assist you with, chap?
#2288 [20:01] <IosefKoranison> That was an awesome response. Anyway, yes the download is done.
#2289 [20:01] <oldtopman> Ah, cool.
#2290 [20:01] <oldtopman> "java -version"
#2291 [20:01] <oldtopman> What does that say?
#2292 [20:02] <IosefKoranison> The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:
#2293 [20:02] <Boreeas> Haha
#2294 [20:02] <Boreeas> sudo apt-get install sun-java6
#2295 [20:03] <IosefKoranison> *default-jre *gcj-4.6-jre-headless *openjdk-6-jre-headless *gcj-4.5-jreheadless *openjdk-7-jre-headless
#2296 [20:04] <Boreeas> No sun-java6?
#2297 [20:04] <IosefKoranison> Nope. It did say "Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
#2298 [20:05] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: sudo apt-get install default-jre
#2299 [20:05] <oldtopman> It works 75% of the time
#2300 [20:05] <Boreeas> Alternatively, if you prefer sun java, I think update-sun-jre does a good job
#2301 [20:05] <IosefKoranison> What is sun java?
#2302 [20:05] <IosefKoranison> I just want this to be as simple as possible. XD
#2303 [20:05] <Boreeas> The java version produced by Oracle/Sun
#2304 [20:06] <Boreeas> Install default-jre then
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#2308 [20:12] <icywolf24> whats wrong with the skins?
#2309 [20:12] <IosefKoranison> It's done.
#2310 [20:12] <oldtopman> icywolf24: They're broken.
#2311 [20:12] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: Now run "java -version"
#2312 [20:12] <icywolf24> when will they be fixed?
#2313 [20:13] <oldtopman> icywolf24: No idea.
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#2315 [20:14] <fernando> what do i need update on my video card to play the minecraft demo and if i get the full game will i need to update the video card
#2316 [20:14] <DiskDaemon> ?? demo
#2317 [20:14] <VoxelHead> demo: In order to play Minecraft's demo, you will need to download this modified launcher, login to your nonpremium account, and select "Play Demo" (underneath "Try Again"). Demo mode is currently nonfunctional in the vanilla launcher.
#2318 [20:14] <VoxelHead> demo: Download link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9s6pep6gzuykit/minecraft%20launcher.jar (bugs should be reported to Wug, the author of the modifications)
#2319 [20:15] <fernando> if i get the full game do i need to update my videocard
#2320 [20:15] <IosefKoranison> "Java version '1.6.0_24' Open JDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.3) (6b24-1.11.3-1ubuntu0.12.04.1) Open JDK Client VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode, sharing)
#2321 [20:16] <DiskDaemon> fernando: If the demo works for you, the full game will work for you too
#2322 [20:16] <oldtopman> Yay!
#2323 [20:16] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: Alright, you can get the server running now.
#2324 [20:16] <oldtopman> Type in "screen"
#2325 [20:17] <oldtopman> That will open a command line that won't close when you disconnect.
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#2328 [20:18] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: Do you have a new command prompt running now?
#2329 [20:18] <IosefKoranison> Byobu
#2330 [20:18] <oldtopman> Byobu?
#2331 [20:18] <IosefKoranison> It says exit screen and run byobu
#2332 [20:18] <IosefKoranison> Press space or return to end. There's a bunch of other stuff about public license but I'm ignoring that.
#2333 [20:19] <oldtopman> Alright, press space and close it
#2334 [20:19] <IosefKoranison> The screen is black except for a command line (I think). It says iosefkoranison@Derpaherp:~$
#2335 [20:19] <oldtopman> Is that diferrent from what you had before?
#2336 [20:21] <oldtopman> hrm
#2337 [20:21] <IosefKoranison> Yes. There was a lot on the screen before.
#2338 [20:21] <oldtopman> Okay.
#2339 [20:21] <IosefKoranison> It had the thingabout byobu and all that. Then when I pressed space it just cleared all but the line with my name.
#2340 [20:21] <oldtopman> Type in "byobu -ls"
#2341 [20:21] <oldtopman> (no quotes)
#2342 [20:23] <IosefKoranison> tmux: unknown option -- s usage: tmux [-281quvV] [-c shell-command] [-f file] [-L socket-name] [-S socket-path] [command [flags]]
#2343 [20:24] <oldtopman> aargh
#2344 [20:24] <oldtopman> hrm
#2345 [20:25] * oldtopman thinks
#2345 [20:26] <oldtopman> Type in byobu
#2346 [20:26] * IosefKoranison waits and answers questions on a how long would he survive a zombie apocalypse
#2346 [20:26] <IosefKoranison> Okay
#2347 [20:26] <oldtopman> Now type in:
#2348 [20:26] <IosefKoranison> Welcome to the light, powerful, text window manager, Byobu.
#2349 [20:26] <oldtopman> bleh
#2350 [20:26] <IosefKoranison> Etc.
#2351 [20:27] <oldtopman> Bypass all that, probably space
#2352 [20:27] <oldtopman> or q
#2353 [20:27] <oldtopman> At the prompt, type in "java -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#2354 [20:28] <IosefKoranison> Ah, it's doing what it did before when I tried to make a server on my main computer.
#2355 [20:28] <IosefKoranison> Done.
#2356 [20:28] <oldtopman> Right.
#2357 [20:28] <oldtopman> Type in "stop"
#2358 [20:28] <oldtopman> The server should quit and close, and you ought to be back at the prompt
#2359 [20:28] <oldtopman> Do this after it's done loading stuff :P
#2360 [20:29] <IosefKoranison> Back at the promt.
#2361 [20:29] <IosefKoranison> prompt*
#2362 [20:30] <IosefKoranison> What next?
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#2365 [20:36] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: Sorry.
#2366 [20:36] <oldtopman> You need to adjust the server to your likings.
#2367 [20:36] <oldtopman> If default is fine, good.
#2368 [20:37] <oldtopman> Otherwise, adjust the server.prefrences file
#2369 [20:37] <IosefKoranison> How do I do that?
#2370 [20:37] <oldtopman> If you need to do so, try this command:
#2371 [20:37] <oldtopman> apt-get install nano
#2372 [20:37] <oldtopman> Then
#2373 [20:37] <IosefKoranison> Wait
#2374 [20:37] <oldtopman> nano server.properties
#2375 [20:38] <oldtopman> Hmm?
#2376 [20:38] * oldtopman has to go soon
#2376 [20:38] <IosefKoranison> Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: permission denied)
#2377 [20:38] <IosefKoranison> It's asking me if I'm root
#2378 [20:38] <oldtopman> ah
#2379 [20:38] <oldtopman> sudo apt-get install nano
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#2381 [20:38] <Juless> hello
#2382 [20:38] <oldtopman> Then use "nano server.properties"
#2383 [20:39] <oldtopman> Then you can restart the server with the command we used earlier - "java -jar minecraft_server.jar"
#2384 [20:39] <oldtopman> And presto! Minecraft server!
#2385 [20:39] <IosefKoranison> Excellent!
#2386 [20:39] <IosefKoranison> But what about all that router forwarding stuff?
#2387 [20:39] <Juless> My browser does not let the game come up
#2388 [20:39] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: We can work on that later.
#2389 [20:40] <Juless> i erecently installed mint 13Maya and the game does not run in the browser
#2390 [20:40] <oldtopman> portforward.com is the place to go if you can figure it out on your own.
#2391 [20:40] * oldtopman poofs
#2391 [20:40] <Juless> no problem wiht launcher but no luch displaying in the browser
#2392 [20:40] <Juless> luck
#2393 [20:40] <Juless> luck
#2394 [20:41] <Juless> any advice to help me display the gam in browser
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#2396 [20:41] <Juless> hello somone see me
#2397 [20:41] <IosefKoranison> Patience. Someone should be along soon to help.
#2398 [20:41] <NinjaKirby> Hello? Is it me you're looking for?
#2399 [20:42] <IosefKoranison> ^This <3
#2400 [20:42] <Juless> anyone know about linux and the java
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#2402 [20:42] <Juless> It is always a problem
#2403 [20:42] <Dcalix> hello
#2404 [20:42] <Dcalix> I need help
#2405 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> 'CauseI wonder where you are...
#2406 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> And I wonder what you do~
#2407 [20:42] <NinjaKirby> etcetera
#2408 [20:43] <Juless> any advice to help me display the game in browser fire fow on Linux Mint 13 maya
#2409 [20:43] <Juless> any advice to help me display the game in browser fire fox on Linux Mint 13 maya
#2410 [20:44] <Juless> I recently installed Linux mint 13Maya and the game does not display even
#2411 [20:44] <Juless> any advice on where to go to get help
#2412 [20:44] <Dcalix> When I try to use my MC launcher it says Error: Could not create java virtual machine Error: A fatal exception has occured, Program will exit
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#2414 [20:45] <Dcalix> wHAT SHOULD i DO?
#2415 [20:45] <Dcalix> oops srry for caps
#2416 [20:45] <Dcalix> Anyways how do i fix it
#2417 [20:45] <Juless> what is your operating system
#2418 [20:45] <Dcalix> Windows xp i think
#2419 [20:46] <Juless> what java version
#2420 [20:47] <Juless> I recently installed Linux mint 13Maya and the game does not display even
#2421 [20:47] <Dcalix> Java 7 I think
#2422 [20:47] <Juless> hhmmm I think there was something of an issue with the 7
#2423 [20:47] <Dcalix> what do i do then?
#2424 [20:47] <Juless> vaugly recall works better in 6
#2425 [20:48] <Dcalix> ok ill try installing six
#2426 [20:48] <Juless> not sur Im not a windows user
#2427 [20:48] <Dcalix> if that works ill let you know
#2428 [20:48] <Juless> good luck
#2429 [20:48] <NinjaKirby> v6 is superior, and install 64bit explicitly if you run 64bit Windows
#2430 [20:48] <Dcalix> thx you to
#2431 [20:49] <Dcalix> I use 32 bit
#2432 [20:49] <Dcalix> ima install with that
#2433 [20:49] <NinjaKirby> Well, not superior, just more compatible. And fair enough, I think the default download is 32bit.
#2434 [20:49] <NinjaKirby> Nice
#2435 [20:49] <Dcalix> ok
#2436 [20:49] <Dcalix> thanks
#2437 [20:49] <Juless> linux mint maya game not dislpyed in browser help or advice where to find help
#2438 [20:50] <NinjaKirby> I haven't got a clue about Linux, I guess the regular helpers are asleep or currently afk, might be worth lingering.
#2439 [20:50] <NinjaKirby> I'm off to bed myself~
#2440 [20:50] <Devin> Juless: but does it work in the client?
#2441 [20:50] <Devin> Goodnight NinjaKirby :)
#2442 [20:50] <Juless> yes np in launcher
#2443 [20:51] <Devin> Oh wow, I have no idea then. I'm sorry ;o
#2444 [20:51] <Juless> I woul dlike to have it in browser to for the odd occasions when there is issues
#2445 [20:51] <Devin> Make sure the browser has it so you can use java plugins - I know that happens to Firefox on windows sometimes.
#2446 [20:51] <Juless> It a java problem that
#2447 [20:52] <Juless> yeah
#2448 [20:52] <IosefKoranison> Yeah I'm waiting around hoping for a helper to come on.
#2449 [20:52] <Juless> so theres noone on atm
#2450 [20:52] <Juless> Devin thanks
#2451 [20:53] <IosefKoranison> There might be helpers on, but they're in different channels. Or they're just not on.
#2452 [20:53] <Juless> I know what is problemI need to ask on linux forum I guess
#2453 [20:53] <Juless> good luck to all and god morning
#2454 [20:53] <Juless> good
#2455 [20:53] <Dcalix> Off to bed?
#2456 [20:53] <Dcalix> its 5:54 here
#2457 [20:54] <Juless> no Is morning I just woke up
#2458 [20:54] <IosefKoranison> It's 5:54 PM here also.
#2459 [20:54] <Juless> saying good morning to others
#2460 [20:54] <Juless> cyas
#2461 [20:54] <Dcalix> o
#2462 [20:54] <Dcalix> cya
#2463 [20:54] <Dcalix> Cant find the dl for java6
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#2465 [20:56] * Dcalix is now known as :dc
#2466 [20:56] <dc> l
#2467 [21:00] <dc> anyone here?
#2468 [21:00] <IosefKoranison> Hello?
#2469 [21:01] <dc> hi
#2470 [21:01] <dc> Minecraft rules
#2471 [21:02] <IosefKoranison> Yes it does.
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#2473 [21:02] <dc> Yep what system do you have?
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#2475 [21:02] <dc> Mac or windows?
#2476 [21:02] <IosefKoranison> Windows 7.
#2477 [21:02] <dc> m windowszp
#2478 [21:03] <dc> **xp**
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#2480 [21:03] <IosefKoranison> Ah. I miss Windows XP
#2481 [21:04] <dc> ya
#2482 [21:04] <dc> GAAAH '
#2483 [21:04] <dc> tMInecraft launcher wont work
#2484 [21:04] <bukkitdev> AHHH I failed
#2485 [21:04] <dc> It gives me a message saying
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#2488 [21:06] <dc> Error: Could not create java virtual machine Error:A fatal exception has occured. Program will exit.
#2489 [21:06] <dc> What should i do?
#2490 [21:06] <IosefKoranison> I dunno. I'm not a helper person. :c
#2491 [21:06] <dc> ok I need help tho
#2492 [21:07] <IosefKoranison> Me too. That's why I'm here.
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#2498 [21:18] <IosefKoranison> Anybody here?
#2499 [21:19] <DiskDaemon> sure
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#2502 [21:20] <IosefKoranison> I was editing the server properties on my virtual machine. I'm done now, but I don't know how to close the nano thing. I also don't know how to forward a router.
#2503 [21:21] <DiskDaemon> what is a nano thing?
#2504 [21:22] <IosefKoranison> It's some sort of program to edit things I assume. Oldtopman told me to get it on the virtual machine and then run it so I could edit the server properties file of my minecraft server.
#2505 [21:23] <Phonebook> Control Panel you mean?
#2506 [21:25] <IosefKoranison> I'm using a linux virtual machine to run the minecraft server.
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#2511 [21:34] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: Where are you now?
#2512 [21:34] <oldtopman> Also
#2513 [21:34] <oldtopman> Can't believe you're still here, but I'll help you if you can :P
#2514 [21:35] <IosefKoranison> Lol, I've got nothing better to do. I've just been lurking here while doing other things.
#2515 [21:35] <IosefKoranison> I got the server properties the way I want them. How do I close the nano thing?
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#2517 [21:35] <IosefKoranison> FFFFF I just lost the game.
#2518 [21:36] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: control O, then press enter, then press control x
#2519 [21:37] <oldtopman> (Which means write out, enter selects the file name [the one you opened by default], and control x closes)
#2520 [21:37] <IosefKoranison> Don't I also want to put my name in the op text file?
#2521 [21:37] <oldtopman> No, we can do that from the server console.
#2522 [21:38] <IosefKoranison> Alright. So next is the port forwarding?
#2523 [21:38] <oldtopman> Not quite.
#2524 [21:38] <oldtopman> You need to start the server again.
#2525 [21:38] <IosefKoranison> How do I do that again?
#2526 [21:39] <oldtopman> "java -jar minecraft_server.kar"
#2527 [21:39] <oldtopman> jar*
#2528 [21:39] <oldtopman> nimrod: Please cut back on your auto-away messages.
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#2530 [21:40] <IosefKoranison> Unable to find spawn biome it says. Oh, that's probably because I changed the name from world to derp.
#2531 [21:40] <IosefKoranison> Unable to find spawn biome it says. Oh, that's probably because I changed the name from world to derp.
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#2533 [21:40] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: It should be making a new world then, just chill while it loads up a new one
#2534 [21:40] <IosefKoranison> Yeah, it's done.
#2535 [21:40] <oldtopman> Okay.
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#2537 [21:41] <oldtopman> Now you're at the server console.
#2538 [21:41] <oldtopman> Type in "op <theops>"
#2539 [21:41] <oldtopman> Probably you, but whomever needs ops needs to be opped now
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#2541 [21:42] <IosefKoranison> Can't I give and take op status from people ingame?
#2542 [21:42] <oldtopman> Only if you have ops to begin with.
#2543 [21:43] <IosefKoranison> Ah. Yeah, then it's just me.
#2544 [21:43] <oldtopman> right.
#2545 [21:43] <IosefKoranison> I opped myself.
#2546 [21:43] <Phonebook> ugh, use fCraft, it;s best server software
#2547 [21:43] <oldtopman> ??> Phonebook mods/short
#2548 [21:43] <VoxelHead> Phonebook: (mods/short) We do not support mods. For help, try google. For bukkit, ask in #bukkit by typing "/join #bukkit"
#2549 [21:43] <Phonebook> ty voxel -.-
#2550 [21:44] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: *Now* you're ready for port forwarding.
#2551 [21:44] <oldtopman> Is your computer wireless or wired internet?
#2552 [21:44] <IosefKoranison> My body is read. Reggie.jpg
#2553 [21:44] <oldtopman> heh
#2554 [21:44] <IosefKoranison> Ready* I'm on a laptop, so it's wireless.
#2555 [21:44] <Phonebook> painful to see you use default...cya
#2556 [21:44] <oldtopman> Find the model number of your wireless router.
#2557 [21:45] <IosefKoranison> I have it. I actually bookmarked the page for the forwarding stuff yesterday.
#2558 [21:45] <oldtopman> Right, so just follow the guide up on portforward.com and forward the wireless router!
#2559 [21:45] <IosefKoranison> It was talking about static and dynamic IP addresses.
#2560 [21:46] <IosefKoranison> And I was like what. Let me go back to that page and see where my problem was.
#2561 [21:46] <oldtopman> heh
#2562 [21:46] <oldtopman> A laptop makes a terrible server, for the reason you've likely discovered and don't udnerstand :P
#2563 [21:47] <IosefKoranison> Yeah, but it's the most powerful computer I have. And the only one I can use. XD
#2564 [21:47] <oldtopman> bleh
#2565 [21:48] <oldtopman> You need a static IP on the laptop, and you need to forward the router+gateway
#2566 [21:48] <oldtopman> And you should probably make the router static.
#2567 [21:48] <IosefKoranison> How do I do all that. I tried looking it up but the portforward guide was confusing.
#2568 [21:48] <IosefKoranison> Oh I remember now.
#2569 [21:49] <IosefKoranison> It told me to right click on Local Area Network
#2570 [21:49] <IosefKoranison> And I don't have that.
#2571 [21:49] <IosefKoranison> And it's talking about getting the Domain Name Servers.
#2572 [21:49] <oldtopman> Don't worry about DNS
#2573 [21:49] <oldtopman> That's for a proper server if you want to start one of those.
#2574 [21:50] <IosefKoranison> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Belkin/F5D8236-4/Minecraft_Server.htm
#2575 [21:50] <IosefKoranison> That's the guide I'm using, btw.
#2576 [21:51] <oldtopman> If that's your router, go for it.
#2577 [21:51] <oldtopman> Just play with it for a day or two, then come back after epic fails
#2578 [21:51] * oldtopman doesn't do a lot of PF, that's more Dope/Grey's area
#2578 [21:51] <IosefKoranison> What do you mean by play with it?
#2579 [21:51] <IosefKoranison> Yeah Dope was helping me with that the other day.
#2580 [21:51] <oldtopman> Well, you have a server up now :D
#2581 [21:52] <IosefKoranison> Yes!
#2582 [21:52] <IosefKoranison> But I can't use it. XD
#2583 [21:52] <oldtopman> You can locally.
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#2585 [21:52] <IosefKoranison> My friend lives in like Massachusetts(sp).
#2586 [21:52] <oldtopman> Yeah, there it gets complex :x
#2587 [21:52] <IosefKoranison> I live in Oregon. XD
#2588 [21:53] <IosefKoranison> Before setting up a server, if you don't know networking and all this other stuff, you should click this button: http://myinstants.com/instant/you-are-not-prepared/
#2589 [21:53] <oldtopman> Before setting up a server, you should ask yourself "Why don't I just play on a server that works already"
#2590 [21:54] <IosefKoranison> That too. XD
#2591 [21:54] <oldtopman> We get so many people in here who would make terrible ops. "lolz i need port forward. wht is ip addy?"
#2592 [21:54] <oldtopman> bleh
#2593 [21:54] <IosefKoranison> The answer is, because my friend and I don't want other people there doing things and such. We just want our own. But I was unaware what setting up a server meant.
#2594 [21:55] <IosefKoranison> Yeah, I know some about using a computer, but not enough. And now I'm all, "I feel like an idiot. D:"
#2595 [21:55] <IosefKoranison> brb
#2596 [21:55] <oldtopman> I have a smaller server that I could see about getting you and your friend whitelisted on.
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#2602 [22:11] <IosefKoranison> Let me ask him and see what he thinks about that.
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#2604 [22:14] <IosefKoranison> He's fine with that.
#2605 [22:17] <IosefKoranison> You still there?
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#2608 [22:23] <IosefKoranison> Hello? Is it me you're looking for?
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#2611 [22:29] <IosefKoranison> Anybody here?
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#2613 [22:30] <Andrio> I'm here
#2614 [22:30] <Smanly> Nope
#2615 [22:30] <IosefKoranison> Blarg, brb.
#2616 [22:30] <Smanly> wat
#2617 [22:31] <lyfeisgood> i got locked out of my account and it won't let me buy it
#2618 [22:31] <lyfeisgood> sorry it wont let me buy minecraft
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#2620 [22:34] <lyfeisgood> can anyone help me?
#2621 [22:34] <oldtopman> IosefKoranison: I'm here (again)
#2622 [22:34] <oldtopman> Can I send you a PM?
#2623 [22:35] <IosefKoranison> Yeah sure.
#2624 [22:35] <lyfeisgood> i can log into my account but i can't buy minecraft cus it says im locked out
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#2626 [22:37] <DiskDaemon> lyfeisgood: well there's not much we can do about that, is there
#2627 [22:37] <lyfeisgood> so then what do i do
#2628 [22:39] <DiskDaemon> You could contact Mojang via http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new and wait for them to get back in touch with you
#2629 [22:40] <lyfeisgood> ok
#2630 [22:41] <DiskDaemon> There is though currently around 3 months before they process their existing emails and get to ones that are sent today
#2631 [22:44] <lyfeisgood> is there a faster way then?
#2632 [22:45] <DiskDaemon> you could perhaps twitter
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#2634 [22:46] <lyfeisgood> i dont have that or facebook
#2635 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> but there's no guarantee that anything will come of that
#2636 [22:46] <DiskDaemon> email is the best way - which is why it is used
#2637 [22:47] <lyfeisgood> ok r there any customer service numbers i can call inside the united states
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#2639 [22:47] <DiskDaemon> nope
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#2641 [22:48] <lyfeisgood> so email then
#2642 [22:48] <lyfeisgood> r there faster email methods
#2643 [22:49] <DiskDaemon> there is an accounts person who occasionally comes in here, who might be able to help to answer why, but he's not here right now
#2644 [22:50] <lyfeisgood> ok
#2645 [22:54] <lyfeisgood> is there a way to delete accounts? or make more then one account with the same email
#2646 [22:54] <xales> DiskDaemon: I believe "locked out" is a payments thing and only lasts 24 hours.
#2647 [22:54] <xales> Fraud prevention thing.
#2648 [22:54] <lyfeisgood> ok
#2649 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, that's good to know
#2650 [22:55] <lyfeisgood> so then its a problem with the card
#2651 [22:56] <DiskDaemon> What card is it?
#2652 [22:57] <lyfeisgood> credit
#2653 [22:57] <DiskDaemon> There's a wide range of credit cards. Which one?
#2654 [22:58] <lyfeisgood> master
#2655 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> There's a wide range of mastercards. Which one is it?
#2656 [22:59] <lyfeisgood> just a regular one
#2657 [22:59] * DiskDaemon shrugs
#2657 [22:59] <xales> Do you have a line of credit, or is a prepaid card?
#2658 [22:59] <lyfeisgood> line
#2659 [22:59] <xales> Okay then.
#2660 [23:00] <xales> If the card is being denied, it's because your bank is choosing to deny it..
#2661 [23:00] <xales> So, you would need to call them and ask them why.
#2662 [23:00] <xales> Most likely, it is because it is an international transaction.
#2663 [23:01] <lyfeisgood> ok then y would it say my account is closed and how long would it take to try with a different card
#2664 [23:01] <xales> What, *EXACTLY*, does it say?
#2665 [23:01] <DiskDaemon> Why on earth would you want to try with a different card?
#2666 [23:02] <Andrio> you know this channel isn't +c any more, xales?
#2667 [23:02] <xales> Andrio: Indeed, that was intentional.
#2668 [23:02] <Andrio> so you can actually boldface your messages.
#2669 [23:02] <lyfeisgood> that the account is closed and to call so + 44 #
#2670 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> And did you call?
#2671 [23:03] <lyfeisgood> no cus its international
#2672 [23:03] <lyfeisgood> isnt it
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#2675 [23:04] <DiskDaemon> Mojang is in Sweden, and their payment gateway is in England
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#2677 [23:06] <lyfeisgood> ok
#2678 [23:06] <lyfeisgood> it is international to me
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#2681 [23:07] <Fegyflow26> Is the multiplayer function down?
#2682 [23:07] <xales> I don't think so.
#2683 [23:08] <xales> Are you experiencing an issue?
#2684 [23:08] <Fegyflow26> yes
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#2687 [23:08] <xales> Well, if you explain what the specific issue is, perhaps someone can help you.
#2688 [23:08] <Fegyflow26> it keeps frezzeing my screen when I click on the server
#2689 [23:08] <xales> Are you using any mods?
#2690 [23:08] <Fegyflow26> No
#2691 [23:08] <xales> ??> Fegyflow26 win/reinst
#2692 [23:08] <VoxelHead> Fegyflow26: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2693 [23:09] <VoxelHead> Fegyflow26: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#2695 [23:09] <Fegyflow26> so reinstall minecraft?
#2696 [23:09] <Fegyflow26> ok got it
#2697 [23:09] <Fegyflow26> bye!
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#2699 [23:10] <lyfeisgood> did you say that the problem was a 24 hour thing
#2700 [23:10] <xales> lyfeisgood: It could be, I don't know.
#2701 [23:12] <lyfeisgood> ok so is there any way to tell how to fix it without calling the number it gave me?
#2702 [23:12] <Smanly> lyfeisgood: whats the problem?
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#2704 [23:13] <lyfeisgood> i can log in but i cant buy minecraft cus is
#2705 [23:13] <DiskDaemon> It gave an english telephone number, so you would want to contact moneybookers about the issue
#2706 [23:13] <lyfeisgood> it says its closed
#2707 [23:14] <Smanly> Have you tried waiting 24hrs?
#2708 [23:14] <lyfeisgood> ya and it did it again
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#2710 [23:14] <DiskDaemon> Mojang give the same advice about contacting moneybookers http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/417071-i-can%E2%80%99t-purchase-minecraft
#2711 [23:15] <xales> lyfeisgood: Try using a different payment method.
#2712 [23:15] <xales> Specifically, PayPal.
#2713 [23:15] <lyfeisgood> ok how do i do that
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#2715 [23:16] <DiskDaemon> lyfeisgood: Read the page and apply some basic reading comprehension skills.
#2716 [23:16] <lyfeisgood> ok
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#2735 [23:59] <asasin319> please help me
#2736 [23:59] <asasin319> HEWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO