#1 [00:00] <wolf5> any advice one a good new computer ?
#2 [00:01] <wolf5> i want it to be able to run minecraft
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#4 [00:01] <wolf5> with out any lag
#5 [00:02] <EpicCody12> every time i join a server its goes connection lost interal cleint error or failed to login how do i fix that
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#8 [00:14] * WizardCM sighs
#8 [00:14] <WizardCM> uploading now
#9 [00:15] <WizardCM> 27 minutes to go
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#12 [00:17] <kolberonie> hey can anyone help with my problem? My friend cant connect to my minecraft server but i can. i followed all steps but he gets "connection timed out"
#13 [00:18] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: What is the IP?
#14 [00:18] <kolberonie> my external ip
#15 [00:18] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: I need the IP
#16 [00:19] <kolberonie> i probably shouldnt say it to everyone on the internet lol
#17 [00:19] <WizardCM> you have forwarded your port correctly
#18 [00:19] <WizardCM> ?
#19 [00:19] <kolberonie> yeah i believe so
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#21 [00:19] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: by connecting to IRC we all can see your IP
#22 [00:20] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: By connecting to any website, the server knows your IP
#23 [00:20] <tyteen4a03> not to mention all your bittorrenting and youtubeing and facebooking, IP is not a private thing
#24 [00:20] <kolberonie> oh haha then you should know it with out me telling you right?
#25 [00:20] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: sure, but I want to know it from you
#26 [00:21] <kolberonie> why? lol
#27 [00:21] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: to confirm that you gave out the right IP address
#28 [00:21] <tyteen4a03> Many users around here confuse their external IP with their internal IP, and some people just give illegal IPs
#29 [00:22] <kolberonie> yeah i gave 174.0.178.13
#30 [00:22] <tyteen4a03> [12:21] <AuBot> Sorry tyteen4a03, but things don't look good for 174.0.178.13:25565, are you sure you typed it right?
#31 [00:22] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: looks like the port forwarding failed
#32 [00:22] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: what is the model of your roter?
#33 [00:23] <tyteen4a03> *router
#34 [00:23] <kolberonie> e3200
#35 [00:24] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: is there a modem between the router and the internet?
#36 [00:24] <kolberonie> yeah i believe so
#37 [00:25] <kolberonie> yeah its not letting me join the server now it says failed to verify username
#38 [00:25] <VoxelHead> kolberonie - The Minecraft authentication servers are presently down. Mojang is currently working on fixing them. Please try again later. Single-player should still work in the mean time. This is an automated message.
#39 [00:25] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Go to your router's admin panel, and go to the Port Forwarding page
#40 [00:25] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: ignore VoxelHead
#41 [00:25] * tyteen4a03 slaps VoxelHead
#41 [00:25] <kolberonie> okay
#42 [00:25] <kolberonie> i am
#43 [00:26] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: tell me every entries in there
#44 [00:27] <kolberonie> minecraft- 25565-25565 both then my ip and i clicked enable
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#46 [00:28] <WizardCM> make sure it's TCP and not UDP
#47 [00:28] <tyteen4a03> WizardCM: Doesn't matter
#48 [00:28] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: OK, go to Port Range Forwarding and tell me every entries in there
#49 [00:28] <tyteen4a03> WizardCM: "Both" means both TCP and UDP
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#51 [00:30] <Kable97> Tell them your issue
#52 [00:30] <kolberonie> is there an easier way then typing alll them out
#53 [00:30] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: No
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#55 [00:31] <tyteen4a03> Kable97: Yes?
#56 [00:31] <kolberonie> can i just tell you the ports or what?
#57 [00:31] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: please tell me everything
#58 [00:32] <kolberonie> kk
#59 [00:32] <Kable97> My friend JMayhill is having a delemma with connecting to Minecraft.net and ive halped him with everything you guys have said but its not working so i brought him here and he just disconnected so sorry for the wait
#60 [00:32] <kolberonie> 53-53 both
#61 [00:33] <kolberonie> opps sorry
#62 [00:33] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Go on
#63 [00:33] <kolberonie> 3074-3074 both
#64 [00:33] <kolberonie> 80-80 both
#65 [00:34] <kolberonie> thats all
#66 [00:34] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Why are you forwarding your 80 port?
#67 [00:34] <kolberonie> other then the minecraft one obviuosly
#68 [00:34] <Kable97> He fixed it. Sorry guys. And thanks for everything else! <3
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#70 [00:34] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Wait, is there an entry in Simple Port Forwarding AND Port Range Forwarding?
#71 [00:35] <kolberonie> i cant remember anymore lol i did it a while ago.
#72 [00:35] <kolberonie> simp;le port dforwarding?
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#76 [00:37] <kolberonie> hey costofgyn
#77 [00:37] <costofgyn> hey
#78 [00:37] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: There are 2 pages, Simple Port Forwarding and Port Range Forwarding
#79 [00:37] <tyteen4a03> *Single
#80 [00:38] <kolberonie> under application and gaming?
#81 [00:38] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: yes
#82 [00:38] <kolberonie> Ohhh yeah i see single
#83 [00:38] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Can you now go to Port Range Forwarding and tell me all entries there?
#84 [00:38] <kolberonie> yeah thats what i did i have niothing in single
#85 [00:39] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: you should move all your entries to Single Port Forwarding
#86 [00:39] <kolberonie> ok i will
#87 [00:40] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Now, go to Port Triggering and tell me every entries there
#88 [00:40] <kolberonie> yeah i have nothing in there
#89 [00:41] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Finally go to DMZ and see if it's enabled
#90 [00:41] <kolberonie> its disabled
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#92 [00:42] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: how did you get your internal IP?
#93 [00:42] <kolberonie> I donno lolo
#94 [00:42] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: OK, open a Command Prompt
#95 [00:42] <kolberonie> ya
#96 [00:42] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: from there, type in "ipconfig"
#97 [00:42] <kolberonie> ya i just did
#98 [00:42] <tyteen4a03> copy everything in there onto pastebin.com
#99 [00:43] <kolberonie> kk
#100 [00:45] <kolberonie> then what
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#102 [00:45] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Give me the URL you're redirected to
#103 [00:46] <kolberonie> this is fishy
#104 [00:46] <wolf5> can i get a computer that will run minecraft without lag for 300 ? or will it cost me more ?
#105 [00:46] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: They are all internal settings
#106 [00:46] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Probably more
#107 [00:47] <kolberonie> http://pastebin.com/8DpRewtw
#108 [00:47] <wolf5> about how much will it run me ?
#109 [00:47] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: We suggest somewhere at least 550
#110 [00:48] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Just make sure it has a decent graphics card, at least 4GB of RAM, and possibly an i3 or i5
#111 [00:48] <wolf5> is it cheaper to build one ?
#112 [00:48] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: If you don't know how to, no
#113 [00:48] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: for extra performance, consider a combo of SSD and HDD
#114 [00:49] <kolberonie> Deop wolf5
#115 [00:49] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Huh?
#116 [00:49] <kolberonie> nvm
#117 [00:49] <kolberonie> so whatn now
#118 [00:49] <WizardCM> aaand it's up - http://youtu.be/dB244pcqwqo
#119 [00:49] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Go to the Simple Port Forwarding page, what is the internal IP?
#120 [00:49] <WizardCM> time to link it in the wiki
#121 [00:50] <kolberonie> 192.168.1.107
#122 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> hmm, correct
#123 [00:50] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: What is your model model?
#124 [00:50] <wolf5> oh ok im kinda newer to computers i have replaced a fan once or twice and a power suply but i havent done much else so i shouldnt build one then ?
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#126 [00:51] <kolberonie> did you want me to change my DMZ to enable
#127 [00:51] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Probably not
#128 [00:51] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: No
#129 [00:51] <kolberonie> ok
#130 [00:51] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: What is your model of the Modem?
#131 [00:51] <tyteen4a03> (did I just say "model model"?)
#132 [00:51] <kolberonie> yaa
#133 [00:51] <kolberonie> haha
#134 [00:51] * tyteen4a03 facepalm
#134 [00:51] <kolberonie> akimbo model 1887
#135 [00:52] <kolberonie> where do i find the modem info??
#136 [00:52] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Find the model, try to see if there are any model names or anything
#137 [00:53] <wolf5> does the prosseser speed matter much if its a multi core ?
#138 [00:53] <kolberonie> k
#139 [00:53] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: It does matter, make sure it's above 2.5GHz (the faster the merrier)
#140 [00:54] <wolf5> ok
#141 [00:54] <kolberonie> sb5101 i think is the model
#142 [00:54] <wolf5> hdmi compatable ?
#143 [00:55] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: HDMI... pretty much up to you
#144 [00:55] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Note that your monitor must also support HDMI for this to work
#145 [00:55] <wolf5> my 24 inch tv should work for that
#146 [00:56] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: if it's made within the last 3 years, yes
#147 [00:56] <wolf5> would some thing like tis work ?
#148 [00:56] <wolf5> http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/PT.SG9P2.003
#149 [00:56] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Turn off any antiviruses and firewalls you have
#150 [00:57] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: We've received problems with the NVIDIA GeForce 6150 before
#151 [00:57] <kolberonie> how exactly?
#152 [00:58] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: It depends on what antivirus software you have, but for starters turn off the Windows Firewall
#153 [00:58] <wolf5> oh differant moddle then ? and sry about spelling lol
#154 [00:58] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: yeah, try a different model
#155 [00:59] <wolf5> ok ty
#156 [00:59] <kolberonie> my windows firewall is off
#157 [01:00] <kolberonie> but i have a mcafee firewall
#158 [01:00] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Uninstall it
#159 [01:00] <kolberonie> why??
#160 [01:00] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: You don't need it
#161 [01:01] <kolberonie> why wouldnt i need a firewall
#162 [01:01] <wolf5> tyteen4a03: is this better ?
#163 [01:01] <wolf5> http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/PT.SHFP2.005
#164 [01:02] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Most of the case it's useless
#165 [01:02] <kolberonie> k
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#167 [01:02] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: I think you should look for a model that has a dedicated graphics card
#168 [01:03] <wolf5> ??
#169 [01:03] <wolf5> dedicated ?
#170 [01:03] <kolberonie> k firewall off
#171 [01:03] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: yes, a separate card
#172 [01:03] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: Is the server on currently?
#173 [01:04] <kolberonie> chea
#174 [01:04] <wolf5> so i need to buy a seperate card ?
#175 [01:04] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Look for a model that has a separate graphics card - not those integrated ones
#176 [01:04] <tyteen4a03> !check S0106586d8f0d188d.cg.shawcable.net
#177 [01:04] <tyteen4a03> there we go
#178 [01:05] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: The issue's fixed, and your friends can now connect
#179 [01:05] <kolberonie> ok one sec he is trying to joinand thx for the help
#180 [01:05] <kolberonie> what was wrong???
#181 [01:05] <tyteen4a03> kolberonie: The firewall was blocking the connection
#182 [01:06] <kolberonie> Thanks a ton broo
#183 [01:06] <wolf5> how do i tell if its a seperate one ? and what makes a separate card better?
#184 [01:06] <tyteen4a03> No problem
#185 [01:06] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: I'm not sure how either... but if the card's made by Intel, has the word nForce or Fusion in the name, it's an integrated card
#186 [01:07] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: A dedicated graphics card will boost game performance by a lot, since it's "dedicated" to graphics processing
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#188 [01:07] <costofgyn> can i have your number
#189 [01:07] <wolf5> so a intergrated one is taxed by other things ?
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#191 [01:08] <tyteen4a03> costofgyn: Number?
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#193 [01:08] <wolf5> ??
#194 [01:08] <costofgyn> phone number
#195 [01:08] <wolf5> what ? why ?
#196 [01:08] <tyteen4a03> ??> wolf5 irc/multitasking
#197 [01:08] <VoxelHead> wolf5: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#198 [01:09] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: It just doesn't work as good as a dedicated one
#199 [01:09] <Elystus> wolf5: You will be ahrd pressed to find one for 300
#200 [01:09] <Elystus> You might get a good one for 500.
#201 [01:09] <wolf5> ok i will look for a better one then
#202 [01:09] <tyteen4a03> costofgyn: we are reachable in this IRC channel in case you need more help
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#204 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> oh and hi Elystus
#205 [01:10] <Elystus> hi :3
#206 [01:10] <Elystus> Starting to become active again. Just got through a hellish two weeks
#207 [01:10] <tyteen4a03> I will go back to hell in 2 weeks
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#210 [01:13] <wolf5> all of the acers seem to have a intell card is that bad ?
#211 [01:13] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: yes
#212 [01:13] <wolf5> dang i like acers lol
#213 [01:14] <wolf5> any ideas ?
#214 [01:15] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: I'm looking
#215 [01:15] <wolf5> ok thanks
#216 [01:16] <Elystus> wolf5: Is 300 your absolute max?
#217 [01:16] <wolf5> ii would go 400
#218 [01:17] <wolf5> if it would be good
#219 [01:17] <Elystus> Do you live in AMerica by any chance?
#220 [01:17] <tyteen4a03> wolf: I really recommend saving more
#221 [01:17] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: but there's this one: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/PT.SDXP2.002
#222 [01:17] <Elystus> I recommend saving as well.
#223 [01:17] <Elystus> It is worth it
#224 [01:17] <wolf5> a sec plz
#225 [01:18] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: And then buy more RAM to extend this thing, and I think you will be ok
#226 [01:18] <Elystus> I had to save two years for the computer I am on now, and it is worth it.
#227 [01:18] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: but still, I recommend saving
#228 [01:18] <wolf5> u shure on that one ?
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#230 [01:19] <wolf5> would it run diablo 2 ??
#231 [01:19] <Elystus> let me take a look at it quickly
#232 [01:19] <wolf5> what is a Core i3
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#234 [01:20] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: It's a kind of Intel processor, it's a current model
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#236 [01:20] <wolf5> oh ok
#237 [01:20] <Eddie> i3 < i5 < i7
#238 [01:20] <wolf5> 7 better ?
#239 [01:20] <wolf5> or 3 better ?
#240 [01:20] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: i7 is better
#241 [01:21] <Elystus> but a high end i5 can be better than a low end i7 in some aspects
#242 [01:21] <tyteen4a03> Elystus: that would be what I am using
#243 [01:21] <wolf5> whats the differnce ?
#244 [01:21] <wolf5> more cores ?
#245 [01:21] <Elystus> Also, while the Aspire M3 has a dedicated graphics card, it has two gigs of ram clocked at 1333Mhz
#246 [01:21] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Just better designed, most of the case i3 or i5 works for you
#247 [01:21] <Elystus> Which is very little
#248 [01:21] <Eddie> Elystus: I don't see how it can be better, but it can be more suitable though.
#249 [01:21] <tyteen4a03> Elystus: hence "buy more ram"
#250 [01:22] <Elystus> Eddie: What I meant is suitable, sorry :/
#251 [01:22] * Elystus scrolls up
#251 [01:22] <Elystus> I see >_>
#252 [01:22] <Eddie> And there aren't really low-end i7s :p
#253 [01:22] <Eddie> Unless you consider the power-saving ones being low-end
#254 [01:22] <Elystus> I meant the not $500+ ones
#255 [01:22] <Eddie> oh Sandy Bridge E
#256 [01:22] <wolf5> would that one run diablo 2 though ?
#257 [01:23] * Elystus uses AMD :/
#257 [01:23] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: I believe so
#258 [01:23] <Elystus> wolf5: The gpu should handle it fairly well, just make sure to get more ram
#259 [01:23] <tyteen4a03> it kind of depends if d2 eats a lot of CPU
#260 [01:23] <wolf5> could i use ram from my old acer ?
#261 [01:24] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Probably not
#262 [01:24] <wolf5> aww
#263 [01:24] <tyteen4a03> we can take a look, but I doubt you can
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#265 [01:24] <wolf5> naa i will get the ram any way
#266 [01:24] <wolf5> lol my old pc will got to my kids
#267 [01:25] <Elystus> it doesn't seem to be too cpu intensive
#268 [01:25] <wolf5> whats that mean ?
#269 [01:25] <Elystus> processor
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#271 [01:25] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: meaning it doesn't eat too much CPU power
#272 [01:26] <wolf5> ok
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#274 [01:26] <wolf5> i think i might save up the extra for that one
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#276 [01:26] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: I think you should save up for a better computer for that, but if your budget's tight you can use that one plus more RAM
#277 [01:27] <wolf5> any thing i should know before hand ?
#278 [01:27] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: You need more RAM, as I said several times :P
#279 [01:27] <wolf5> lol
#280 [01:27] <wolf5> anything else :D
#281 [01:27] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: so expect at most $500 to spend, depending on the current prices of RAM
#282 [01:28] <wolf5> ok
#283 [01:28] <Elystus> lol, it comes with 64-bit windows. but the computer only has 2 gig ram.
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#286 [01:28] <tyteen4a03> Elystus: that would be my borrowed laptop
#287 [01:28] <wolf5> thats bad right ?
#288 [01:28] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: pretty much, yes
#289 [01:29] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: there are 2GB built-in but I suggest getting 4 separate 2GB RAM sticks (which should cost around $80)
#290 [01:29] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: cut 1 if your budget's really tight
#291 [01:29] <wolf5> ok
#292 [01:29] <tyteen4a03> not sure if RAM sticks can be mixed up nowadays... can we, Elystus?
#293 [01:29] <wolf5> so just ram ram and more ram right ?
#294 [01:29] <1AVAAKUE6> if its the same kind of ram, yes
#295 [01:29] <Elystus> I believe they can, but it is best to do them in pairs
#296 [01:29] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: yes
#297 [01:30] <Elystus> But I wouldn't mix speeds
#298 [01:30] <1AVAAKUE6> it will run at the speed of the slower stick
#299 [01:30] <tyteen4a03> 1AVAAKUE6: the motherboard only seems to support 1333Mhz
#300 [01:30] <tyteen4a03> or am I reading it wrong
#301 [01:30] <1AVAAKUE6> it probably supports less
#302 [01:30] <wolf5> will each stick see a speed jump when instaled ?
#303 [01:30] <Elystus> What motherboard is it
#304 [01:31] <1AVAAKUE6> its easy to support speeds like 800mhz
#305 [01:31] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Each stick? they're all used
#306 [01:31] <1AVAAKUE6> as fallbacks in case it doesnt work at faster
#307 [01:31] <Bob_Sack> my client cant connect to any servers and isnt even showing them as online but all other internet works. is this just my problem? or are anyone else having issues
#308 [01:31] <1AVAAKUE6> Bob_Sack: sounds like a firewall thing
#309 [01:31] <wolf5> yes but will i see an improvement when its installed ?
#310 [01:31] <tyteen4a03> Bob_Sack: Give us the IP
#311 [01:31] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Yes
#312 [01:31] <Elystus> Oh also, the power supply is pretty small. SO when upgrading you may have to take that into consideration.
#313 [01:31] <1AVAAKUE6> wolf5: youll probably see overall better performance
#314 [01:32] <1AVAAKUE6> Elystus: ram doesnt take that much juice
#315 [01:32] <Elystus> Also, it doesn't come with a monitor
#316 [01:32] <Bob_Sack> tyteen4a03: well it's multiple servers, as in every minecraft server on my server list. and it was working literally like 10 minutes ago
#317 [01:32] <Elystus> 1AVAAKUE6: I meant if he upgrades other stuff, such as the gpu or processor.
#318 [01:32] <1AVAAKUE6> to upgrade the cpu he'd probably need a new motherboard
#319 [01:32] <Elystus> Mhmm
#320 [01:32] <1AVAAKUE6> and might as well get a new computer anyway
#321 [01:33] <Elystus> I wouldn't
#322 [01:33] <tyteen4a03> Bob_Sack: turn off firewalls and antiviruses
#323 [01:33] <wolf5> my computer ?
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#325 [01:33] <wolf5> its like 6 years old lol
#326 [01:33] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: yeah, we're discussing the prospective computer right now
#327 [01:34] <wolf5> i dont think its worth upgrading at this point
#328 [01:34] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: the new computer, I mean
#329 [01:35] <wolf5> oh
#330 [01:35] <Elystus> We are talking about future upgrades
#331 [01:35] <wolf5> and ? what will those be ?
#332 [01:35] <wolf5> more ram ?
#333 [01:35] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: just performance here and there
#334 [01:35] <wolf5> ok
#335 [01:36] <wolf5> so how often should a computer be replaced ?
#336 [01:37] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: If you're using Windows, 2 to 3 years
#337 [01:37] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: If you're using Linux, almost never
#338 [01:37] <wolf5> not 6 then
#339 [01:37] <wolf5> lol
#340 [01:37] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: Alienware or Origin PC might go that far
#341 [01:37] <Elystus> 6 is like 60 years in computer time
#342 [01:37] <wolf5> lol
#343 [01:37] <Elystus> Ewww.... Alienware
#344 [01:38] <tyteen4a03> Elystus: before it gets purchased by Dell
#345 [01:38] <Elystus> still...
#346 [01:38] * Elystus builds his computers
#346 [01:38] <tyteen4a03> but anyways moses law... take 18 as 10 years in computer's life, your computer would be around 108 years old :P
#347 [01:38] <wolf5> is acer a good brand ?
#348 [01:39] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: It's decent
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#350 [01:39] <wolf5> its the best i have owned so far but i havent owned much
#351 [01:39] <tyteen4a03> Elystus: Tell me how to build a laptop
#352 [01:39] * Elystus uses magical powers
#352 [01:39] <wolf5> lol
#353 [01:39] <wolf5> brb
#354 [01:39] <tyteen4a03> Elystus: damn you
#355 [01:40] <Elystus> tyteen4a03: Well first, you go to hp.com then you go to hp pavilion
#356 [01:40] <Elystus> then you click purchase
#357 [01:40] <tyteen4a03> Elystus: and? :D
#358 [01:40] <Elystus> wait for delivery
#359 [01:40] <Elystus> ??
#360 [01:40] <Elystus> profit
#361 [01:40] <tyteen4a03> Elystus: you suck
#362 [01:43] <tyteen4a03> but if I do buy an Origin Laptop, I can essentially leave my current computer in Hong Kong as a server when I leave for US
#363 [01:43] <tyteen4a03> hell, origin laptops is more powerful than my desktop
#364 [01:45] <wolf5> what should i get if my price range was 600 ? would that be a better choice to save till 600 ?
#365 [01:45] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: definitely
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#367 [01:50] <wolf5> what the advantages to the xtra 200 bucks more
#368 [01:50] <wolf5> whats
#369 [01:51] <tyteen4a03> wolf5: better performance, slightly longer lifespan
#370 [01:52] <wolf5> so it wouldnt be better to get cheaper computers than more expencive ones because of the performance ?
#371 [01:53] <wolf5> and whats the best computer brand ?
#372 [01:54] <Elystus> I like asus
#373 [01:54] <wolf5> ive seen that one in bestbuy
#374 [01:56] <wolf5> macs suck right
#375 [01:56] <Zimsky> no
#376 [01:56] <wolf5> what ?
#377 [01:56] <Zimsky> your opinion of computers sucks
#378 [01:57] <wolf5> lol everybody that i have ever talked to says macs suck sry lol
#379 [01:57] <Elystus> I don't like macs. But thats because they are not windows. THey are not bad, just diffrent.
#380 [01:57] <wolf5> whats the differnce ?
#381 [01:57] <Zimsky> wolf5: you may want to rethink your life and perhaps choose an alternative path
#382 [01:58] <wolf5> pros and cons plz
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#384 [01:58] <wolf5> why get a mac ?
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#386 [01:58] * Elystus points at tyteen4a03
#386 [01:58] <Zimsky> they work without crashing every 2 seconds
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#389 [01:58] <Elystus> Zimsky: If you windows comp crashes every two seconds, you are doing something very wrong.
#390 [01:59] <wolf5> lol agreed
#391 [01:59] <Zimsky> I haven't used windows for 4-5 years
#392 [01:59] <Elystus> Linux is the best >_>
#393 [01:59] <Zimsky> No idea if it works now
#394 [01:59] <wolf5> i havent used a mac ever
#395 [01:59] <Zimsky> wolf5: ok
#396 [01:59] <Elystus> Zimsky: Windows 7 is awesome
#397 [01:59] <Elystus> it works really well
#398 [02:00] <Zimsky> lulz
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#400 [02:00] <wolf5> so without saying outright that pc's suck whats better about a mac ?
#401 [02:01] <Elystus> If you ever do programming, Windows is less stressful to program on.
#402 [02:01] <Zimsky> Did I say pc's suck? not in my scrollback. what's better about a mac? easy to work with, is based on unix, etc
#403 [02:02] <Zimsky> Elystus: I have to disagree, Apple computers are primarily used for software development. However your opinion is your opinion
#404 [02:02] <Elystus> Zimsky: I have done programming on both and I liked windows better, but then again I am more used to Windows.
#405 [02:03] <wolf5> lol im sry if a started a argument here
#406 [02:03] <wolf5> lol
#407 [02:03] <Zimsky> argument != discussion
#408 [02:03] <Elystus> Not an argument really, its a discussion
#409 [02:03] <wolf5> oh ok then ;)
#410 [02:03] <Elystus> Zimsky: I see what you did there ;)
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#413 [02:03] <Zimsky> always enjoy a good old mac vs windows|pc discussion
#414 [02:03] <Elystus> I have to agree, vista and xp sucked
#415 [02:03] <wolf5> lol happens often
#416 [02:04] <wolf5> is windows 7 good ?
#417 [02:04] <Elystus> Zimsky: How is pathing on a mac compared to windows in your opinion?
#418 [02:07] <wolf5> just checking something
#419 [02:07] <wolf5> is this a good computer
#420 [02:07] <Elystus> wolf5: I think it is.
#421 [02:07] <wolf5> http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/DT.SJPAA.003
#422 [02:07] <Elystus> Windows 7 that is
#423 [02:08] <Elystus> you could get better for 1.2k
#424 [02:08] <wolf5> lol it does cost a lot
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#427 [02:12] <wolf5> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/iBuyPower+-+Gamer+Supreme+Desktop+-+16GB+Memory+-+2TB+Hard+Drive+%2B+120GB+Solid+State+Drive/5513216.p?id=1218652747719&skuId=5513216
#428 [02:12] <wolf5> these ones look awsome
#429 [02:12] <wolf5> they cost a insane amount of cash most of the time though
#430 [02:13] <Elystus> O.O Damn, that is over priced
#431 [02:13] <wolf5> yes
#432 [02:13] <Elystus> that should be about 1.5k
#433 [02:14] <wolf5> whats the verry best gamming pc you know of right now ?
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#435 [02:15] <Elystus> it would cost about 9k (Estimate) and you would have to build it.
#436 [02:15] <wolf5> good god
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#438 [02:15] <wolf5> i think i will stick to buying cars with that cash lol'
#439 [02:16] <Elystus> They are insane comps.
#440 [02:16] <Elystus> the processor alone is 1k
#441 [02:16] <wolf5> how many years before they are out dated ?
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#443 [02:18] <Elystus> those ones last quite a while
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#445 [02:18] <Elystus> maybe like 6 years
#446 [02:18] <Scott> Just get a mac :)
#447 [02:19] <Elystus> .__.
#448 [02:19] <Elystus> ofc Scott comes back for this
#449 [02:19] <wolf5> 9000$ every 6 years
#450 [02:20] <wolf5> well guys i have to good
#451 [02:20] <wolf5> thanks for all the help
#452 [02:21] <Elystus> You're welcome :)
#453 [02:21] <wolf5> and i think i will save a little more for a new pc
#454 [02:21] <wolf5> bye all
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#460 [02:32] <Dj> is anyone elses minecraft doing this? http://puu.sh/X269
#461 [02:32] <Dj> im on 1.3.2
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#464 [02:35] <tyteen4a03> >Free Porn Videos and Sex
#465 [02:36] <tyteen4a03> oh well, considering he's using IE
#466 [02:36] <tyteen4a03> what can we expect
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#468 [02:37] <Elystus> lololol, didn't even notice that
#469 [02:37] <Elystus> He also seems to be a Romney Supporter
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#471 [02:44] <tyteen4a03> hide your f-in porn!
#472 [02:45] * Elystus saves that link
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#475 [03:10] <1AVAAKUE6> tyteen4a03: he had to be trolling
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#477 [03:10] <1AVAAKUE6> firstly I dont see anything wrong with minecraft
#478 [03:11] <1AVAAKUE6> second, 9gag, free porn, nickelback, mitt romney AND bing?
#479 [03:11] <1AVAAKUE6> I'm pretty sure those things don't coexist in the wild.
#480 [03:11] <LordBoone> Hello I have a problem with my official launcher : I can't launch it !
#481 [03:12] <1AVAAKUE6> LordBoone: do you get an error message?
#482 [03:12] <LordBoone> no, nothing
#483 [03:12] <1AVAAKUE6> what does it do
#484 [03:13] <LordBoone> I'm sorry I'm french and so (it's a definition) I'm so bad in english, but I will try to explain to you
#485 [03:13] <LordBoone> I do a double-clic on the .exe
#486 [03:14] <LordBoone> Windows tell me "would you like to open his program ?"
#487 [03:14] <LordBoone> And of course I approve
#488 [03:14] <LordBoone> And there is nothing
#489 [03:14] <1AVAAKUE6> try reinstalling java
#490 [03:14] <LordBoone> ok, I will
#491 [03:15] <1AVAAKUE6> make sure you install the 64 bit version since you're on 64 bit windows.
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#494 [03:27] <LordBoone> I'm on Windows 64 and I just reinstalled Java 64, but it does the same
#495 [03:29] <LordBoone> I don't know if it will help you, but with this problem I tried the AnjoCaido Launcher, and this one can be launched, but is enable to update the game (it blocked at around 30%)
#496 [03:31] <LordBoone> I have a quite good connection, i5-460M, ATI HD5870, 4Go DDR5...
#497 [03:31] <LordBoone> I thnik it's not a material problem
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#504 [04:05] <kiddy1998> hi im having issues with the chatting on servers
#505 [04:06] <DiskDaemon> What issue is that?
#506 [04:07] <kiddy1998> im typeing it in correctly its just not showing up
#507 [04:08] <DiskDaemon> Okay, go in to the keybindings in the options, and set the chat button. By default it should be T
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#510 [04:10] <kiddy1998> it is t still
#511 [04:10] <Necrodoom> are you able to break and place blocks normally, though?
#512 [04:10] <DiskDaemon> Is tehre anything about your setup that is different from a vanilla install?
#513 [04:11] <kiddy1998> no not really
#514 [04:11] <DiskDaemon> not really?
#515 [04:12] <kiddy1998> i just updated it to 1.3.2 and it stopped working
#516 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> Okay, let's see if a reinstall will help
#517 [04:13] <kiddy1998> ok
#518 [04:13] <DiskDaemon> ??> kiddy1998 win/reinst
#519 [04:13] <VoxelHead> kiddy1998: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#520 [04:13] <VoxelHead> kiddy1998: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#521 [04:14] <kiddy1998> ok trying it now
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#524 [04:17] <kiddy1998> thankyou all working now
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#526 [04:18] <wizznall> Hi i have bought minecraft and my misses wants it but can we play online mp if we have the same external ip as my mate down the road joins my server too?
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#529 [04:19] <DiskDaemon> If you and your wife both want to be in the multiplayer server, you will both need separate accounts
#530 [04:21] <wizznall> yeah thats cool but when me mate mike down the road joins my server i run on my pc can my wife still join us when she has the same external ip as me though
#531 [04:22] <wizznall> and thanks for helping me too mate as i not sure and need expert advise so she not buy the game for nothing as she wants to join me and mike down the road in our mp games
#532 [04:23] <DiskDaemon> Yes, that can be done. Although because she is on the same local network as the server, she will have better performance by connecting to the local ip address of the server instead
#533 [04:24] <wizznall> ah awesome mate your a champ thankyou verry much you have helped an Australian out many thanks
#534 [04:24] <DiskDaemon> I'm glad to have helped someone from across the ditch :)
#535 [04:25] <wizznall> sweet as mate you may go and have a beer now from me
#536 [04:26] <DiskDaemon> cheers
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#538 [04:27] <wizznall> @ DiskDaemon sorry to go off topic mate but were are you from mate
#539 [04:29] <DiskDaemon> from Christchurch, New Zealand
#540 [04:29] <wizznall> ahh sweet as bro sorry had to say it lol
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#542 [04:32] <DiskDaemon> That's alright. All the best there :) http://chasingcait.com/2012/03/the-one-where-im-moving-to-new-zealand/nz-west-island/
#543 [04:33] <wizznall> thanks again for your help mate have a great afternoon hey
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#545 [04:34] <wizznall> oh how do i log out of this chat room bud
#546 [04:35] <DiskDaemon> You're using webchat, so you can just close the tab. Or type in /quit
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#548 [04:44] <wizznall> ahh thanks mate cya later
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#563 [05:53] <jimakis98> I have a eMail Problem
#564 [05:53] <jimakis98> what can i do?
#565 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> What sort of email problem?
#566 [05:54] <DiskDaemon> That depends on what the issue is
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#569 [05:55] <jimakis98> my old email has been deleted and my account is on this email
#570 [05:55] <jimakis98> what can i do?
#571 [05:55] <DiskDaemon> Okay, you can contact Mojang about that
#572 [05:55] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329530-my-email-account-has-changed-
#573 [05:56] <jimakis98> ok
#574 [05:56] <jimakis98> let me see
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#576 [06:00] <jimakis98> ok
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#585 [06:49] <Cael> i'm helping w/ moving one server into a Multiworld server, before saying much. both orginated in 1.3.1, everythinsg fine BUT enderchests, they're all Gone.
#586 [06:49] <Cael> (chests are still winworld where they were placed But contents are wiped) where does the Vanilla 1.3.1 Enderchests save thier contents?
#587 [06:54] <Cael> are they stored within the player.dat?
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#626 [09:38] <uncovery> hey guys.. I moved my server to a new machine and everything is fine except worldguard trying to write to mysql (pex does not have an issue) . It slows down and laggs everyone off the server: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1766972 any idea? Worldguard can read MySQL w/o issues
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#628 [09:40] <Necrodoom> uncovery: correct channel is #sk89q
#629 [09:40] <uncovery> Necrodoom: yeah I know, but a dead correct channel is still a dead channel. thought I try my luck here
#630 [09:41] <Necrodoom> minecrafthelp is for vanilla
#631 [09:41] <uncovery> ohok
#632 [09:41] <uncovery> thanks
#633 [09:41] <uncovery> so.... how do I craft a fence again? (joking)
#634 [09:42] <Necrodoom> sticks
#635 [09:42] <Necrodoom> 6 of em
#636 [09:42] <uncovery> :D
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#659 [10:42] <Guest11948> i have a black screen everytime i log in to minecraft, how do i fix it?
#660 [10:42] <Calinou> Guest98487, if you use AVG, disable the link scanner module.
#661 [10:42] <Calinou> are you playing classic or the full game? what operating system are you using?
#662 [10:42] <Guest11948> i have the full game, windows 7
#663 [10:43] <Calinou> well then try disabling link scanner if you have avg
#664 [10:43] <Calinou> then do a "force update" in the launcher options
#665 [10:43] <Guest11948> im sorry but how do i do that?
#666 [10:43] <Calinou> we don't help with mods there, too, if you use mods
#667 [10:43] <Calinou> Guest11948, do you even use AVG?
#668 [10:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest11948 forceupdate
#669 [10:44] <VoxelHead> Guest11948: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#670 [10:44] <VoxelHead> Guest11948: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#671 [10:44] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: stop scaring him :P
#672 [10:45] <Guest11948> still black
#673 [10:45] <tyteen4a03> Guest11948: Has it worked before?
#674 [10:45] <Calinou> :/ did you install any mods?
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#676 [10:46] <Calinou> try using the .jar launcher instad: https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/minecraft.jar -- put it on the desktop then run it.
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#678 [10:46] <Guest11948> i got this laptop a few months ago and it has never worked on here, and no ive never downloaded a mod
#679 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest11948 win/dxdiag/bat
#680 [10:46] <VoxelHead> Guest11948: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#681 [10:46] <VoxelHead> Guest11948: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#682 [10:46] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: calm down :P
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#685 [10:47] <DEafAxe> why cant i choose american express when paying?
#686 [10:47] <Calinou> because you can't. use paypal or moneybookers instead
#687 [10:47] <Calinou> ?? payment
#688 [10:47] <VoxelHead> payment: Mojang don't process money directly from payments made, but accept payment them through a third-party institution like Moneybookers or Paypal. Once Mojang gets receipt of these payments, your account will be credited with premium status. This may take a few hours, be patient.
#689 [10:47] <VoxelHead> payment: If it has been more than a few days, please contact Mojang through http://is.gd/B1N48h
#690 [10:48] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: Um, Moneybookers provide an AE option
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#693 [10:48] <Calinou> yes, but mojang doesn't process money directly
#694 [10:49] <tyteen4a03> Calinou: No they don't, however they use Moneybookers to provide CCs
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#696 [10:49] <immertach> hi do you speek german ???
#697 [10:50] <tyteen4a03> immertach: Not me
#698 [10:50] <immertach> ich hab ne frage
#699 [10:51] <immertach> ok then i ask in english
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#701 [10:51] <immertach> i want to make a lets play and if i has enough views on my videos i want to monetize it.
#702 [10:52] <guest123> i have a black sceen how do i fix it
#703 [10:52] <immertach> i read that i have to get a lizenz but where can i get on
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#706 [10:53] <guest123> i have a black screen how do i fix it besides forceing update
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#708 [10:54] <tyteen4a03> ??> guest123 win/dxdiag/bat
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#710 [10:54] <VoxelHead> guest123: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#711 [10:54] <VoxelHead> guest123: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#712 [10:54] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Follow VoxelHead's instructions
#713 [10:54] <guest123> ok give me a sec
#714 [10:55] <guest123> ok now where do i paste the information
#715 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> guest123: at Pastebin.com
#716 [10:56] <guest123> ok i did
#717 [10:56] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Give us the link
#718 [10:57] <guest123> http://pastebin.com/
#719 [10:57] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Did you paste into the white box, then press Paste?
#720 [10:57] <guest123> http://pastebin.com/YP0WHEMe
#721 [10:57] <guest123> there
#722 [10:58] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Does the web version work?
#723 [10:58] <guest123> nope...
#724 [10:59] <tyteen4a03> guest123: OK
#725 [11:00] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Try installing this driver: http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win7-winvista-64bit-301.42-whql-driver.html
#726 [11:00] <guest123> ok one sec
#727 [11:00] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Also, make sure you have Java 6 update 33 64bit version
#728 [11:02] <guest123> when i go to java webstie it says i have the recommened java
#729 [11:05] <guest123> when installing display driver should i use express or custom setting
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#731 [11:06] <guest123> ill just use express
#732 [11:06] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Yes, use express
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#734 [11:06] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Go to Add/Remove programs, look for all Java entries
#735 [11:06] <tyteen4a03> guest123: tell me everything you have
#736 [11:08] <guest123> i have java 32.bit
#737 [11:08] <tyteen4a03> guest123: Uninstall every Java entries you have
#738 [11:08] <tyteen4a03> then install Java 6 update 33 64bit version here:
#739 [11:08] <tyteen4a03> ??> guest123 java/1.6
#740 [11:08] <VoxelHead> guest123: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#741 [11:09] <guest123> ok hold on let me unistall
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#744 [11:12] <guest123> ok ill download new java now
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#746 [11:13] <guest123> do i downlaod java 32.bit or java 64 bit
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#749 [11:19] <guest123> minecaft works thank you soo much
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#756 [11:27] <Gino> Hello, I just recently upgraded to a new laptop and have found that despite having better hardware than my old computer, it does runs at best at 10 FPS.
#757 [11:28] <Calinou> ?? win/dxdiag
#758 [11:28] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#759 [11:28] <VoxelHead> win/dxdiag: Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#760 [11:28] <Calinou> ^ this will tell your actual hardware
#761 [11:28] <Calinou> just having more RAM != better, by the way
#762 [11:28] <Gino> Actually, I meant going from a dual core cpu to a quadcore.
#763 [11:29] <Gino> One second, I was already running dxdiag.
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#765 [11:29] <Gino> ------------------ System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 8/20/2012, 11:28:16 Machine name: GINO-LAPTOPPC Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. System Model: 700Z3A/700Z4A/700Z5A/700Z5B BIOS: Phoe
#766 [11:29] <Necrodoom> www.pastie.org
#767 [11:30] <Gino> ah, thank you.
#768 [11:30] <Gino> http://pastie.org/4556920
#769 [11:31] <Calinou> your computer has an integrated graphics card, that's why
#770 [11:31] <Gino> It also has a discrete graphics card.
#771 [11:31] <Calinou> WTF: " Card name: Mobile Intel(R) HD Graphics Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc."
#772 [11:31] <Gino> Why it's not detecting it is beyond me.
#773 [11:31] <Calinou> you seem to have one "integrated" graphics card and a dedicated graphics card...
#774 [11:32] <Calinou> try to look around in windows/your driver's control panel and see
#775 [11:33] <Gino> Ah, here we go: Radeon 6750M
#776 [11:33] <Gino> It has 1 gig DDR5 memory.
#777 [11:33] <Necrodoom> DDR5?
#778 [11:34] <Gino> Yes? The latest standard in memory?
#779 [11:34] <Calinou> DDR5 is the VRAM of middle-high end graphics card...
#780 [11:34] <Calinou> DDR3 is used for standard RAM
#781 [11:34] <Gino> I'm aware.
#782 [11:35] <Gino> As you can see, from all of this, it should have no problem running. Deus ex runs on high settings at over 35 fps.
#783 [11:35] <Calinou> today's games running at 35 FPS is "no problem"... i gotta blame today's game studios ;)
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#785 [11:36] <Calinou> Gino, so, make sure you selected your dedicated graphics card in some way
#786 [11:36] <Gino> Oh, it certainly isn't the game's fault. It's not bad for a laptop meant for programming.
#787 [11:36] <Calinou> AMD's power saver thingie can think minecraft is a small program
#788 [11:36] <Calinou> thus run it with the integrated gpu
#789 [11:37] <Gino> Hmm...I didn't think about checking any external power settings programs. Windows it self I set to allow 100% cpu.
#790 [11:37] <Gino> I'll check.
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#792 [11:41] <Gino> I've found nothing.
#793 [11:42] <Calinou> :/
#794 [11:42] <Calinou> make sure your computer is plugged, by the way
#795 [11:42] <Gino> It is, although nonetheless, I have a power option that disregards that for gaming on the go.
#796 [11:43] <Gino> I'm considering going into safemode and running it and see if perhaps there's a program I'm not seeing that's slowing it down.
#797 [11:43] <Calinou> maybe you're running something else, see task manager
#798 [11:44] <Gino> Application wise, nothing, process-wise. It's hard to tell.
#799 [11:44] <Calinou> see the amount of CPU used by some programs
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#801 [11:45] <Gino> Basically none, only 3% cpu. I'm gonna check the graph and see if minecraft makes it spike.
#802 [11:48] <Gino> I understand the high number of players as well as the amount of them that are under the age of 14, yet, this is no excuse why mojang does not have an official tech support email address.
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#805 [11:53] <Kanegasi> what does the age of the players have anything to do with a tech email?
#806 [11:57] <Gino> I'd imagine that while some are quite mature and would write proper concise emails, I'm imagine simply due to age there'd also be a high number of not so well written emails or simply irrelevant ones.
#807 [12:00] <Kanegasi> that is absolutely not the reason there isnt a tech support email
#808 [12:00] <Kanegasi> there isnt one because there isnt one
#809 [12:00] <Gino> Which is absurd.
#810 [12:00] <Kanegasi> not really. there is no need with an active community
#811 [12:00] <Gino> It's a professional company now and as such, should have a professional contact address.
#812 [12:00] <Kanegasi> it does, but not for tech help
#813 [12:01] <Gino> Which is as before, absurd. Seeing as how I spent money on a product that does not work yet meets and exceeds minimum specifications.
#814 [12:01] <Gino> I understand having many resources first, which is great.
#815 [12:01] <Gino> In the end, however, there should be a way of directly contacting them.
#816 [12:01] <Gino> Even if it means a 2 week waiting period.
#817 [12:01] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Just to clarify, Mojang is an indie developer company, not those that has multi-nation headquarters
#818 [12:02] <Gino> Yes, exactly why I bought the game.
#819 [12:02] <Gino> It's a gem and a testament that a good game does not need to be funded by a giant corporation.
#820 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> Gino: So therefore you can't really expect professional-level support from them
#821 [12:02] <Kanegasi> like i said, there is for account-related issues and ensuring your payment is processed correctly. as tyteen said, it is a company ran by 10-20 people.
#822 [12:02] <tyteen4a03> Gino, Kanegasi: may I know the problem?
#823 [12:03] <Kanegasi> i defended mojang by countering gino's statement that official tech help doesnt exist
#824 [12:03] <Kanegasi> claiming one of the reasons it doesnt exist is the age of players
#825 [12:03] <Eddie> This is not a channel for debate, this is a help channel.
#826 [12:03] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: Uh, they don't
#827 [12:03] <Gino> I could honestly care less in anyone's opinion for anything.
#828 [12:03] <Gino> I just want my game to work properly.
#829 [12:04] <Gino> It's why I spent moeny on it and not pirated it.
#830 [12:04] <Gino> Money*
#831 [12:04] <tyteen4a03> Gino: I just read your dxdiag report and you said something about undetected card... can you describe the problem again?
#832 [12:04] <Kanegasi> tyteen4a03: you didnt get the sides accurate. anyways, yes, this isnt a place for debate. sorry
#833 [12:05] <Gino> Well, that's the thing. Windows is reading it just fine. Drivers are up to date. It has both an integrated card as well as a dedicated GPU.
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#835 [12:05] <Gino> Kanegasi: you are entitled to an opinion as am I. Sorry for the disagreement.
#836 [12:05] <tyteen4a03> Gino: What is the model of your Samsung Laptop?
#837 [12:06] <Gino> one second please.
#838 [12:07] <Gino> Samsung Series 7 NP700Z5A-S0AUS Laptop Computer - 2nd generation Intel Core i7-2675QM 2.2GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, AMD Radeon HD 6750M, 15.6" Display, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
#839 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> I just read what happened, but Mojang does not have official tech email because there isn't one, not really things we can control
#840 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> got it
#841 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> got it
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#843 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Are you installing the AMD drivers and uninstalled the Intel ones?
#844 [12:07] <tyteen4a03> *uninstalling
#845 [12:08] <Gino> No, they are both installed as I'd imagine should be.
#846 [12:08] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Uninstall the Intel one
#847 [12:08] <Gino> That would be bad. Disabling it alone sets my display into 800x600.
#848 [12:09] <Gino> Basically, showing I have no card.
#849 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> ??< c660
#850 [12:09] <Gino> ?
#851 [12:09] <tyteen4a03> Gino: There's a similar laptop with the same problem, I am trying to invesgiate to see if the same solution can be used
#852 [12:10] <Gino> Thank you very much. While you do that I am updating both my card's drivers and my BIOS drivers.
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#854 [12:10] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Just uninstall Intel's drivers
#855 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Head to your Start menu, right click on "Computer" and go to its properties. Along the left side should be the Device Manager, head there.
#856 [12:11] <Gino> I disabled it (The same is uninstalling without having to hunt for the drivers again). Window's basic display adapter drivers kick in.
#857 [12:11] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Look for Display Adapters, and tell me anything there's in there
#858 [12:12] <tyteen4a03> *everything
#859 [12:12] <Gino> Intel mobile graphics, Radeon 6750M
#860 [12:13] <Gino> They must run in conjunction.
#861 [12:13] <tyteen4a03> Gino: and disabling the Intel one causes Windows to use the basic drivers, correct?
#862 [12:13] <Gino> Correct.
#863 [12:13] <Kanegasi> ?? c660
#864 [12:13] <VoxelHead> c660: The Toshiba C660 laptop has known issues with its GPU drivers. Please follow the directions here: http://minecraftirc.net/thread-12-post-76.html#pid76
#865 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Were you trying to execute this? http://www2.ati.com/drivers/mobile/catalyst_mobility_64-bit_util.exe
#866 [12:14] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: long story short, Toshiba shipped both Intel and AMD drivers within the c660, and the AMD one took over when there were no AMD card
#867 [12:15] <Gino> That is installed on my computer, as with any other computer with an ati card.
#868 [12:16] <Kanegasi> ahh
#869 [12:16] <Gino> Hmm, I might of found something. In the program it's possible to assign programs which card to use. The JVM was unassigned, I set it to high performance. I will see what his does.
#870 [12:17] <Kanegasi> the catalyst control center? just like the nvidia settings?
#871 [12:17] <Gino> Basically.
#872 [12:17] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Use this driver: http://www.samsung.com/sg/support/model/NP700Z5A-S02SG-downloads#
#873 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> ugh
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#875 [12:18] <tyteen4a03> Gino: http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/DR/201208/20120806174907298/VGA_AMD_8.951.9.3000.zip
#876 [12:19] <Gino> Easy. What are these drivers?
#877 [12:19] <tyteen4a03> Gino: This is the AMD driver from Samsung
#878 [12:20] <Gino> Erm. Actually, interesting thing, samsung bundled an easy driver program. The update for the graphics card is 700 mb.
#879 [12:20] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Skip that
#880 [12:20] <Gino> Why?
#881 [12:20] <Gino> It's a direct link to the latest samsung drivers for this specific laptop.
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#883 [12:21] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Oh, I thought you were going to use the Easy Driver utility
#884 [12:21] <Kanegasi> dont always trust auto-updating driver software. its better to just do it manually
#885 [12:21] <Kanegasi> trust as in not screwing something up, not secuiryt
#886 [12:22] <Kanegasi> *security
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#888 [12:22] <albru123> Sorry for making someone busy, my minecraft can't connect to minecraft.net Is it only for me?
#889 [12:22] <Gino> albru123: I am connecting just fine.
#890 [12:22] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Has it worked before?
#891 [12:23] <Gino> Kanegasi: True for second hand programs but this is directly from the manufacture.
#892 [12:23] <albru123> hmmm .... then something is wrong, I will try to set firewall down, wait a minute
#893 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> Gino: even manufacturers derp themselves
#894 [12:23] <tyteen4a03> Gino: just look at Toshiba as I have mentioned
#895 [12:24] <Gino> True. But this laptop has worked fine and it's software has been actually useful.
#896 [12:24] <Gino> A first for prebundled software in my opinion.
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#898 [12:24] <Gino> I'm using to buying my own parts and doing everything OEM. It's a nice change, even if it costed a few hundred more than it ought to of.
#899 [12:24] <Gino> I'm using to buying my own parts and doing everything OEM. It's a nice change, even if it costed a few hundred more than it ought to of.
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#901 [12:24] <Gino> use to*
#902 [12:24] <tyteen4a03> Gino: you considered this as a barebone laptop?
#903 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> oh, used to
#904 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> I still like building things myself, OEMs oversell their parts
#905 [12:25] <tyteen4a03> *overprice
#906 [12:26] <albru123> Gino: Tryied to set off the firewall and parental control, but without any result. :(
#907 [12:26] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Parental Control?
#908 [12:26] <Gino> albru123: Have you tried using the website itself? See if you can use the built in applet on the website
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#910 [12:27] <Gino> albru123: This will circumvent any programs blocking it. If it works on there, then you know it's a program on your computer that is blocking it.
#911 [12:27] <Kanegasi> tyteen: windows has parental controls
#912 [12:27] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: I know, but who bothers to turn it on
#913 [12:27] <Kanegasi> parents
#914 [12:27] <Gino> pre turned on as well.
#915 [12:27] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: stupid ones
#916 [12:27] <Kanegasi> lol
#917 [12:27] <albru123> My antivirus got parental control in, but it's new function, IMHO it can be the proble, but I think not now
#918 [12:27] <Gino> Let's not forget about UAC.
#919 [12:27] <Kanegasi> what is your antivirus?
#920 [12:28] <albru123> ESET Smart Security 5
#921 [12:28] * tyteen4a03 puts Uninstall it in my clipboard
#921 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> hmm nope
#922 [12:28] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Turn it off completely and try again
#923 [12:28] <Gino> tyteen: by the way, OEM means original equipment manufacture. They are the direct makers. OEM parts are usually the cheapest because it doesn't have any second party packaging or software.
#924 [12:29] <albru123> tyteen4a03, you mean antivirus?
#925 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Yes
#926 [12:29] <tyteen4a03> Gino: They still like to overprice everything though
#927 [12:31] <Gino> It called making a profit.
#928 [12:31] <Gino> You'd be surprised how much money goes into R&D.
#929 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> Gino: I just want cheaper computers since I don
#930 [12:31] <tyteen4a03> don't care about their support or anything :P
#931 [12:32] <Gino> O.o I think you are confused.
#932 [12:32] <Gino> Let's not forget people have to research and design those parts :P
#933 [12:32] <albru123> the antivirus itself can't be turned off completely, but the parts can be for a time limit, but firewall and parental control is off, another part can't block it
#934 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Then uninstall it
#935 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> albru123: What kind of antivirus doesn't let you permenantely disable it?
#936 [12:33] <Gino> tyteen: I think that's a bit extreme, check if there is a game mode.
#937 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> *permanantly
#938 [12:33] <Kanegasi> thats interesting. an antivirus that forces its presence
#939 [12:33] <tyteen4a03> Gino: Any antiviruses that doesn't let its users turn itself off is useless
#940 [12:33] <Gino> albru, kanegasi: not that strange, it's to prevent other programs for shutting them off in order to gain access.
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#942 [12:34] <Gino> however, they all have temporary shut down modes.
#943 [12:35] <Kanegasi> i still find that in the gray area. a program i cant easily control, especially if there's no special game mode or disable
#944 [12:35] <Gino> There is. I've used ESET before.
#945 [12:35] <Gino> Where exactly, not sure. But I know this is.
#946 [12:35] <Gino> there*
#947 [12:35] <tyteen4a03> Gino: All modern AntiViruses have that feature
#948 [12:36] <Kanegasi> thats a bit scary. i went to their site, and they have a picture of an NS5 from I Robot. i wonder if there's a central ESET AI
#949 [12:37] <Gino> Still waiting on my drivers to update. I wish there was a detailed progress bar. :l
#950 [12:38] <Gino> Kanegasi: AI is the future.
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#952 [12:38] <Kanegasi> i cant let you do that david
#953 [12:38] <Gino> Dave*, but good try.
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#955 [12:38] <Kanegasi> meh, some quotes get lost with memory
#956 [12:39] <Gino> Well, time to see if this fixes things.
#957 [12:39] <Kanegasi> albru123: http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2838&actp=search&viewlocale=en_US&searchid=1345480736070
#958 [12:39] <asleeponduty> Has anyone here played minecraft PE? I recently got it, but the movement pad is smaller than a pencil eraser
#959 [12:39] <Kanegasi> game mode
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#962 [12:41] <tyteen4a03> asleeponduty: If your screen is small, then the movement pad will also be small
#963 [12:41] <Kanegasi> asleeponduty: smaller than an eraser?
#964 [12:41] <Kanegasi> can we see a screenshot?
#965 [12:42] <asleeponduty> yeah, I have a small screen. ill take a pic, one sec
#966 [12:42] <Kanegasi> just to make sure, you are using the home+lock button screenshot, correct?
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#968 [12:42] <asleeponduty> Im on an android phone
#969 [12:42] <Kanegasi> oh, totally forgot pe is for andriod too
#970 [12:43] <Kanegasi> *oi
#971 [12:45] <asleeponduty> heres a crappy picture taken with my webcam http://imgur.com/Y3cZF
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#973 [12:46] <asleeponduty> the dpad is practically invisible
#974 [12:52] <albru123> Kanegasi: Gaming mode doesn't have anything with my problem. ;-)
#975 [12:53] <Kanegasi> i was reading that article and it seems their game mode is pretty useless. it just hides notifications and stuff in full screen. forgot to mention that here
#976 [12:53] <Kanegasi> asleeponduty: doesnt your phone have screencap capability?
#977 [12:54] <asleeponduty> I just got it the other day, havent figged it out yet.
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#981 [12:56] * asleeponduty searches the internets really quick
#981 [12:56] <Kanegasi> i also see that you are in a saved map. did the dpad recently do this, like right after an update>?
#982 [12:56] <Titanium> Hello, I'm having a bit of trouble connecting to a LAN server via using an Ethernet crossover cable. Can anyone please help me?
#983 [12:57] <asleeponduty> Kanegasi, it was like that when I made my first world (roughly 12 hours ago)
#984 [12:57] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: Via an ethernet crossover cable directly?
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#986 [12:57] <Titanium> Yea. I assume.
#987 [12:58] <Titanium> I've created one of those networks.
#988 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: make sure windows is able to identify the other computer correctly
#989 [12:58] <tyteen4a03> but why would you do this? :P
#990 [12:59] <Titanium> Alrighty, Do you know how I can do that?
#991 [12:59] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: from my understanding, the other computer will need to be able to obtain an internal IP from the host computer
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#993 [13:00] <tyteen4a03> I really don't recommend setting this up manually, using a router is much easier
#994 [13:00] <Titanium> I've used this guide to make a network : http://www.techtipsgeek.com/connect-two-windows-7-computers-on-lan-using-ethernet-cable/13349/
#995 [13:00] <Titanium> Yeah, but my internet is very crappy.
#996 [13:01] <Titanium> And I don't have a router
#997 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: Where does the host computer connect to?
#998 [13:01] <tyteen4a03> (besides the second computer)
#999 [13:02] <Titanium> I have another internet on a USB port.
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#1001 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: Can you make an ipconfig report and paste it on pastebin.com?
#1002 [13:03] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: note that this kind of network setting is very rare, I can only provide limited support
#1003 [13:04] <Titanium> All right, I'll do that. Thanks for helping.
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#1005 [13:06] <jpdrum> hi i need help... I keep crashing
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#1007 [13:06] <jpdrum> is there anyway i can paste my crash report
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#1009 [13:07] <jpdrum> hello???
#1010 [13:07] <asleeponduty> use hastebin.com
#1011 [13:07] <Fishfish0001> http://www.pastebin.com
#1012 [13:07] <jpdrum> k thanks
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#1014 [13:07] <asleeponduty> hastebin.com is classier...
#1015 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> jpdrum: Paste your error report over at pastebin.com
#1016 [13:08] <Kanegasi> he left
#1017 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> asleeponduty: but pastebin.com is more noob friendly
#1018 [13:08] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: just noticed
#1019 [13:08] <Titanium> http://i.imgur.com/usg8j.png
#1020 [13:08] <Titanium> :)
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#1022 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: turn off Hamachi
#1023 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: You don't need it
#1024 [13:10] <Titanium> Allright
#1025 [13:10] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: and can I have the IPConfig of the second computer?
#1026 [13:11] <Titanium> Sure, one sec.
#1027 [13:13] <Becky> Hi, having trouble with an update (Fatal Error 2) have tried reinstalling MC, updating Java + Windows... it won't download it as a forced update or normally and it won't work in the browser either. I've had the game installed since Alpha and I think it's currently on Beta 1.6.6. I'm very new to this and not overly technical so any help would be appreciated.
#1028 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> ??> Becky win/reinst/bat
#1029 [13:13] <albru123> Sorry, I was AFK
#1030 [13:13] <VoxelHead> Becky: (win/reinst/bat) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place. To do so, download and run the following script.
#1031 [13:13] <VoxelHead> Becky: (win/reinst/bat) Minecraft Reinstall Script for Windows: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MinecraftReinstall.bat
#1032 [13:14] <Kanegasi> minecraft has been released a long time ago and currently version 1.3.2
#1033 [13:14] <Becky> Thanks just done that, it's now giving error 4.
#1034 [13:15] <tyteen4a03> Becky: are you able to visit minecraft.net?
#1035 [13:15] <Becky> Yes.
#1036 [13:15] <Titanium> http://i.imgur.com/fH4wP.png Here's the IPconfig for the 2nd pc
#1037 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: Unplug the USB Internet from the second computer, then try connecting using 192.168.0.1
#1038 [13:16] <Titanium> Alright, thanks.
#1039 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> Becky: Try disabling any antiviruses and firewalls you may have
#1040 [13:16] <tyteen4a03> ??> Becky win/hosts
#1041 [13:16] <VoxelHead> Becky: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#1042 [13:16] <VoxelHead> Becky: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#1043 [13:16] <Becky> Ah actually, when I run the script it says that it cannot find the file specified, then says that the uninstall is complete.
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#1045 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> Becky: hmm...
#1046 [13:18] <Becky> http://pastebin.com/wsZpvgwx
#1047 [13:18] <albru123> tyteen4a03: the problem is from time, I've updated to version 5.2 of antivirus, but I don't know if it's really from this time, and I can disable it permanently, but I can't find it in advanced settings :D
#1048 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> Becky: should be normal
#1049 [13:18] <Kanegasi> asleeponduty: if you are comfortable with the instructions on that wiki page i showed you, go ahead and post your bug there
#1050 [13:18] <tyteen4a03> Becky: host file looks fine, continue with disabling security softwares
#1051 [13:18] <asleeponduty> thanks, I will do so
#1052 [13:19] <Becky> There's no anti virus or firewall blocking it.
#1053 [13:19] <Becky> I've allowed it in all of them and tried temporarily disabling them as well, both the same result.
#1054 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> ??> Titanium dont/pm
#1055 [13:20] <VoxelHead> Titanium: (dont/pm) We prefer to assist people publicly, so that others can benefit if they have the similar questions. Please don't PM people who are assisting you unless they have asked you to, or you are sending private information.
#1056 [13:20] <tyteen4a03> Becky: Can you open the Command Prompt?
#1057 [13:20] <Becky> Hold on, I think it's doing something.
#1058 [13:20] <Becky> 1.3.2
#1059 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: honestly I think you should get a proper router
#1060 [13:21] <Becky> is that the right one?
#1061 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> Becky: yes
#1062 [13:21] <Becky> Yay! Thanks!
#1063 [13:21] <tyteen4a03> Titanium: using direct crossover cables only complicates stuff, especially when you're not a sysadmin
#1064 [13:21] <Titanium> Oh..okay then
#1065 [13:23] <Becky> Thanks again guys, have a nice day :)
#1066 [13:24] <albru123> I can't connect to minecraft.net in minecraft, and I can't run the java applet on the minecraft.net to play minecraft, do you want error log from that applet?
#1067 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Please paste that into pastebin.com then give us the link
#1068 [13:25] <tyteen4a03> I should sleep, however no other voiced people are here yet
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#1071 [13:27] <albru123> tyteen4a03: http://pastebin.com/1e59fyN0
#1072 [13:28] <tyteen4a03> ??> albru123 win/reinst
#1073 [13:28] <VoxelHead> albru123: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#1074 [13:29] <VoxelHead> albru123: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#1075 [13:30] <albru123> VoxelHead: Okay, I think I will try it, if nothing from here works :)
#1076 [13:30] * albru123 is deleting Minecraft!
#1076 [13:31] <albru123> It's bad, because I have lot of .jar minecraft versions, but I don't wanna cry around it
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#1079 [13:35] <albru123> VoxelHead: Still can't connect
#1080 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Does the web version now work?
#1081 [13:37] <tyteen4a03> albru123: also, username please?
#1082 [13:38] <albru123> I'm using migrated account, I don't wanna say my e-mail. Sorry :(
#1083 [13:38] <albru123> my nick is albru123 same in minecraft
#1084 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> ok
#1085 [13:38] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Does the web version work?
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#1087 [13:39] <albru123> tyteen4a03: Nope. ;(((
#1088 [13:39] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Still the same error?
#1089 [13:39] <albru123> I think yeah
#1090 [13:40] <tyteen4a03> ??> albru123 win/dxdiag/bat
#1091 [13:40] <VoxelHead> albru123: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1092 [13:40] <VoxelHead> albru123: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
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#1094 [13:41] <albru123> dxdiag, I know what's that, but in what it helps you?
#1095 [13:41] <tyteen4a03> albru123: There are some things I need to know about your hardware
#1096 [13:42] <albru123> http://pastebin.com/NV075KeX
#1097 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> albru123 java/ipv6
#1098 [13:43] <VoxelHead> albru123: (java/ipv6) Java sometimes likes to bind to IPv6 at the expense of IPv4. Since you (for the time being at least) probably want to use IPv4, you want to add the following switches to the script you use to start your server:
#1099 [13:43] <VoxelHead> albru123: (java/ipv6) -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false
#1100 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Try this patch
#1101 [13:43] <tyteen4a03> albru123: If you don't know how to apply this, please ask
#1102 [13:44] <albru123> what server? I really don't know what is this. :D
#1103 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> albru123 win/client/moreram
#1104 [13:44] <VoxelHead> albru123: (win/client/moreram) If you need to launch minecraft with more ram than the defaults, download this script to the location of minecraft.exe and run it. Java must be in your path for this to work.
#1105 [13:44] <VoxelHead> albru123: (win/client/moreram) Windows Launch Script: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/MoreRAMMCLauncher.bat
#1106 [13:44] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Download the file, right click, select Edit
#1107 [13:45] <albru123> and what after?
#1108 [13:46] <tyteen4a03> replace the second line with "java -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.net.preferIPv6Addresses=false -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" 2> errorlog.txt"
#1109 [13:47] <albru123> got it tyteen4a03
#1110 [13:47] <albru123> now run, yeah?
#1111 [13:47] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Yes
#1112 [13:48] <albru123> print some error quickly and closed tyteen4a03
#1113 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> albru123: is there an errorlog.txt?
#1114 [13:49] <albru123> tyteen4a03: No, the bat file failed IMHO
#1115 [13:49] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Is Minecraft.exe next to the bat file?
#1116 [13:50] <albru123> yes
#1117 [13:50] <albru123> the code doesn't need to be in quotes, yes?
#1118 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Yes
#1119 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Edit the file again, and in the third line add "pause?
#1120 [13:50] <tyteen4a03> "pause"
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#1122 [13:50] <albru123> and then I will be able to read error
#1123 [13:52] <albru123> tyteen4a03: error: http://pastebin.com/D3FHcWfG
#1124 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Redownload Minecraft.exe
#1125 [13:53] <albru123> yes
#1126 [13:54] <albru123> tyteen4a03: same error
#1127 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Reinstall Java
#1128 [13:54] <albru123> okay
#1129 [13:54] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Wait, try to remove the 2> errorlog.txt bit first
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#1131 [13:55] <albru123> wait, I had one quote there, I've deleted it and now I will try to run it
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#1133 [13:56] <albru123> it works, now, I can login?
#1134 [13:56] <tyteen4a03> albru123: yes, try to log in now
#1135 [13:57] <albru123> error now, and now it's in errorlog.txt, yes, and I can close?
#1136 [13:57] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Paste the errorlog.txt content into pastebin.com
#1137 [13:58] <albru123> tyteen4a03: http://pastebin.com/MwEwN5Nm
#1138 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Do you update your Windows regularly?
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#1140 [14:00] <albru123> yes, but doesn't restarted yet, It will help?
#1141 [14:00] <tyteen4a03> albru123: just wondering
#1142 [14:00] <albru123> okay, I will try
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#1144 [14:01] <tyteen4a03> albru123: I just found the solution, you will have to uninstall ESET security
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#1146 [14:02] <albru123> hmm ... I can disable all parts when it's really needed, but this is really big step
#1147 [14:02] <tyteen4a03> albru123: the only solution is to uninstall ESET
#1148 [14:03] <albru123> I will try to restart my PC to apply updates and if it will work, it will be good, then, my life is ruined, I've just pruchesed the license time expand of ESET :(((
#1149 [14:04] <tyteen4a03> albru123: Yes, ESET can cause these problems, hopefully they have some kind of money back guarantee
#1150 [14:05] <albru123> It's the most clever antivirus on the world, and in case of emergency I can download older good version and post error request
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#1163 [14:59] <albru123> tyteen4a03, are you here?
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#1167 [15:02] <TheNThingg> can someoe help
#1168 [15:03] <TheNThingg> please
#1169 [15:03] <TheNThingg> hellooooooooooooo
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#1172 [15:03] <TheNThingg> help
#1173 [15:03] <TheNThingg> help
#1174 [15:03] <TheNThingg> help
#1175 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1176 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1177 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1178 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1179 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1180 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1181 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1182 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1183 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1184 [15:04] <TheNThingg> hep
#1185 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1186 [15:04] <TheNThingg> hepl
#1187 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1188 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1189 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1190 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1191 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1192 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1193 [15:04] <TheNThingg> help
#1194 [15:05] <TheNThingg> help
#1195 [15:05] <TheNThingg> help
#1196 [15:05] <TheNThingg> help
#1197 [15:05] <TheNThingg> help
#1198 [15:05] <TheNThingg> help
#1199 [15:05] <lutzee> ?? don't/repeat
#1200 [15:05] <Grim_Reaper> !kick TheNThingg
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#1202 [15:05] <Eddie> lol
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#1204 [15:05] <lutzee> oh come on
#1205 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> Nothing is worse.. Than a user spamming
#1206 [15:06] <lutzee> it's dont/repeat not don't/repeat !
#1207 [15:06] <Venomwolf87> does anyone know how to fix this opengl error
#1208 [15:06] <lutzee> Grim on about the factoid
#1209 [15:06] <Dan> see Venomwolf87 isnt that better then samming
#1210 [15:06] <Venomwolf87> guys
#1211 [15:06] <Grim_Reaper> What error..
#1212 [15:06] <Dan> spamming*
#1213 [15:07] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, copy your error to pastebin.com click submit then copy the link here
#1214 [15:07] <Venomwolf87> ok so i open mc and it gives me an open gl error
#1215 [15:07] <Venomwolf87> ive been trying to play for a while
#1216 [15:07] <lutzee> Okay obviously bad graphics drivers..
#1217 [15:08] <Venomwolf87> nope
#1218 [15:08] <lutzee> ??> Venomwolf87 win/dxdiag/bat
#1219 [15:08] <Venomwolf87> i have the latest driver
#1220 [15:08] <VoxelHead> Venomwolf87: (win/dxdiag/bat) Please download this file. Save it anywhere and run it. After a while it will show you a textfile. Paste the contents of that file on www.pastebin.com copy the link you are sent to, and paste it to us.
#1221 [15:08] <VoxelHead> Venomwolf87: (win/dxdiag/bat) Windows DxDiag Collector: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/CreateDxdiag.bat
#1222 [15:08] <Venomwolf87> and i have downloading different drivers but it doesnt work
#1223 [15:08] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, follow VoxelHead's instructions anyway
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#1225 [15:10] <Venomwolf87> ok so i did that now what
#1226 [15:10] <lutzee> You have submitted to pastebin.com?
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#1229 [15:11] <Venomwolf87> yep i submitted the error to pastebin and so far nothing has happened
#1230 [15:11] <Eatmelo> Hola?
#1231 [15:11] <Elystus> Venomwolf87: He will need the link to help you
#1232 [15:11] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, copy the link you got here
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#1234 [15:11] <Elystus> Eatmelo: Hello :)
#1235 [15:12] <Eatmelo> =.= english? T.T!!!!
#1236 [15:12] <Eatmelo> i'm spanish kdnrkjgtnsek
#1237 [15:12] <Eatmelo> 2x8D
#1238 [15:12] <Venomwolf87> then what
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#1240 [15:13] <Eatmelo> bye =)!
#1241 [15:13] <Venomwolf87> what do i do after i copied the link
#1242 [15:13] <Venomwolf87> what do i do after i copied the link
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#1245 [15:14] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, copy the link from the address bar to here
#1246 [15:14] <Venomwolf87> hello?
#1247 [15:14] <[HQ]PeQes> Hi a Have a problem ;/
#1248 [15:14] <Venomwolf87> http://webchat.esper.net/?channels=minecrafthelp
#1249 [15:15] <Venomwolf87> thats the link
#1250 [15:15] <[HQ]PeQes> thank's maan
#1251 [15:15] <Venomwolf87> now what
#1252 [15:15] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, ... no from pastebin.com ...
#1253 [15:15] <Elystus> [HQ]PeQes: wHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
#1254 [15:16] <Venomwolf87> wait so do have to submitt the error again
#1255 [15:16] <Venomwolf87> ?
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#1257 [15:16] <Ibadi_> Hi have a problem
#1258 [15:16] <lutzee> okay, Venomwolf87 submit again and give it the title opengl error
#1259 [15:16] <lutzee> make sure you add the title
#1260 [15:17] <Venomwolf87> What?
#1261 [15:17] <Venomwolf87> where do i paste the link?
#1262 [15:17] <Ibadi_> It is possible to change the emeil'a
#1263 [15:17] <Ibadi_> Venomo yes
#1264 [15:18] <Ibadi_> ccount because I bought one year ago in June, but with 10 bellows did not play at MC and just forget the whole emeil and password
#1265 [15:18] <Ibadi_> ;/
#1266 [15:18] <Venomwolf87> wait do i paist the link in the title option
#1267 [15:19] <Ibadi_> Okay
#1268 [15:19] <Venomwolf87> yes? no?
#1269 [15:19] <Ibadi_> Yes
#1270 [15:20] <Venomwolf87> ok so i pasted the link in the title
#1271 [15:21] <Venomwolf87> no what do i do
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#1273 [15:21] <Venomwolf87> Hello?
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#1275 [15:22] <Venomwolf87> can you still help
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#1282 [15:23] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, look at pastebin.com , copy the contents into the box, then above the submit button is an option for a "title" put "opengl error" into that box then press submit
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#1284 [15:24] <Venomwolf87> k got it
#1285 [15:25] <Venomwolf87> i mean did it
#1286 [15:25] <lutzee> yeah i see
#1287 [15:25] <lutzee> do the same with the dxdiag text file
#1288 [15:26] <Venomwolf87> the one in the notepad or the command prompt
#1289 [15:27] <lutzee> " After a while it will show you a textfile" <-- that one
#1290 [15:28] <Venomwolf87> there is no text file
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#1292 [15:28] <lutzee> run the file you downloaded again
#1293 [15:29] <Venomwolf87> k
#1294 [15:29] <Venomwolf87> did that
#1295 [15:29] <Venomwolf87> how will this help me fix my error
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#1301 [15:30] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, it will tell us about your PC so we know how to assist you further
#1302 [15:30] <Venomwolf87> hello?
#1303 [15:30] <lutzee> Have you submitted the new text file to pastebin with a title?
#1304 [15:31] <Venomwolf87> what title
#1305 [15:31] <Venomwolf87> ?
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#1307 [15:31] <Venomwolf87> are you going to hack me
#1308 [15:31] <Venomwolf87> ?
#1309 [15:32] <lutzee> No, there is nothing in that document that will let me gain access to your PC
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#1311 [15:32] <Venomwolf87> k thank youj
#1312 [15:32] <Venomwolf87> now what title do i put in
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#1314 [15:33] <xEpicWarrior> Hello :)
#1315 [15:33] <xEpicWarrior> How do I get to the bukkit help page?
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#1317 [15:33] <Venomwolf87> Hello?
#1318 [15:33] <xEpicWarrior> Hello
#1319 [15:33] <xEpicWarrior> #bukkit
#1320 [15:34] <xEpicWarrior> -_-
#1321 [15:34] <xEpicWarrior> IDK how to get to the BukkitHelp chat room
#1322 [15:34] <xEpicWarrior> :/
#1323 [15:34] <Venomwolf87> lutzee what title do i put in
#1324 [15:34] <lutzee> xEpicWarrior, /join #bukkit
#1325 [15:34] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, same as before opengl error
#1326 [15:34] <xEpicWarrior> Oh, thanks :)
#1327 [15:34] <Venomwolf87> k done
#1328 [15:35] <Venomwolf87> did you see
#1329 [15:35] <Venomwolf87> it
#1330 [15:36] <lutzee> Yes, and i have no clue what you graphics chip is.. Elystus want to take a look? http://pastebin.com/TYWh6x6d
#1331 [15:37] <Venomwolf87> my card is NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
#1332 [15:37] <Venomwolf87> if you want to know
#1333 [15:38] <Venomwolf87> do you guys work for mojang
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#1335 [15:38] <Venomwolf87> or Minecraft
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#1337 [15:38] <Venomwolf87> Guys?
#1338 [15:39] <lutzee> Your Pc is not recognising the graphics card even exists
#1339 [15:39] <lutzee> And no no one here is affiliated with mojang
#1340 [15:39] <Venomwolf87> oh.....
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#1342 [15:39] <Venomwolf87> ok so what do i doo
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#1345 [15:40] <crazilon> <3
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#1347 [15:40] <Venomwolf87> Hello?
#1348 [15:41] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, It can take time to write a reply be patient
#1349 [15:41] <Venomwolf87> sorry
#1350 [15:41] <crazilon> Venomwofl waht's your question?
#1351 [15:41] <lutzee> Anyway, as your PC is not seeing the card, there must be a hardware problem somewhere, that or the computer has no graphics drivers for it and it's defaulting to basic drivers
#1352 [15:42] <crazilon> Update OpenGL.
#1353 [15:42] <lutzee> ?? gpu/nvidia
#1354 [15:42] <VoxelHead> gpu/nvidia: You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#1355 [15:42] <crazilon> or that.
#1356 [15:42] <Venomwolf87> ive tried that apparently im not compatable
#1357 [15:42] <Venomwolf87> and i have the lateset driver
#1358 [15:42] <crazilon> What is your OS and OS version.
#1359 [15:43] <lutzee> Wow... no win7 drivers for your card..
#1360 [15:43] <Venomwolf87> i mean thats what the website said
#1361 [15:43] <Venomwolf87> what does that mean
#1362 [15:43] <lutzee> It means your graphics card is not supported under windows 7
#1363 [15:43] <crazilon> are you windows 7?
#1364 [15:43] <lutzee> Did you upgrade to windows 7 at any point?
#1365 [15:44] <Venomwolf87> yeah......
#1366 [15:44] <crazilon> also update OpenGL. That should help.
#1367 [15:44] <Venomwolf87> k ill try that thanks
#1368 [15:44] <lutzee> crazilon, not if he has no drivers what so ever...
#1369 [15:44] <Venomwolf87> you guys are awesome!!!
#1370 [15:44] <crazilon> Oh
#1371 [15:45] <Venomwolf87> so what should i do
#1372 [15:45] <Venomwolf87> ?
#1373 [15:45] <lutzee> Buy a new graphics card, or use onboard graphics (which will be slower than a new graphics card)
#1374 [15:46] <Elystus> yea the gpu is the Nvidia GeForce FX 5200
#1375 [15:46] <Elystus> which I believe is below minimum requirements for the gpu
#1376 [15:46] <Venomwolf87> whats onboard graphics
#1377 [15:47] <lutzee> Venomwolf87, graphics supplied by your cpu/motherboard
#1378 [15:47] <crazilon> ask your doctor if nvidia is right for you before using nvidia, or else you may experience crashes, diahreea, or blue screens. 1-800-NVI-GRFX
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#1382 [15:50] <crazilon> <3
#1383 [15:50] <Venomwolf> lutzee its still venomwolf87 i just got disconnected
#1384 [15:51] <Venomwolf> so how do i enable onboard graphics
#1385 [15:52] <lutzee> Venomwolf, remove your graphics card then plug your screen cable into one of the motherboard ports if there is on
#1386 [15:52] <lutzee> if there isn't then you need a new graphics card
#1387 [15:52] <crazilon> D:
#1388 [15:52] <Venomwolf> ok thanks
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#1390 [15:53] <lutzee> That was too painful...
#1391 [15:53] <crazilon> Agreed
#1392 [15:54] <Elystus> <crazilon> ask your doctor if nvidia is right for you before using nvidia, or else you may experience crashes, diahreea, or blue screens. 1-800-NVI-GRFX
#1393 [15:54] <Elystus> lol
#1394 [15:55] <crazilon> Thanks :D
#1395 [15:55] <crazilon> <3
#1396 [15:59] <crazilon> What are some good useful mods? (like optifine + tmi, not ones that add blocks/items)
#1397 [15:59] <lutzee> drop TMI get NEI :p
#1398 [15:59] <lutzee> NEI shows you recipes
#1399 [16:00] <lutzee> then theres minimap
#1400 [16:00] <crazilon> I wanted to
#1401 [16:00] <crazilon> get NEI but no 1.3.1
#1402 [16:00] <crazilon> i forgot reis
#1403 [16:01] <crazilon> and tekkit updates like every 4 years
#1404 [16:02] <crazilon> wait nope
#1405 [16:02] <crazilon> every eternity
#1406 [16:03] <lutzee> crazilon, tekkit is horrible :p wait for the feed the beast modpack to come out and it will be updated often :p
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#1409 [16:04] <_DGouveia_> #MineCraftHelp
#1410 [16:04] <_DGouveia_> Hi, i need help for buy minecraft
#1411 [16:04] <crazilon> ok how can we help?
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#1413 [16:05] <_DGouveia_> i have card Visa electron
#1414 [16:05] <_DGouveia_> but i don´t know CVC
#1415 [16:05] <crazilon> Oh. cvc is a three digit number on the back of credit card
#1416 [16:06] <_DGouveia_> on the back of credit card i dont have numer :S
#1417 [16:06] <_DGouveia_> numbers
#1418 [16:06] <lutzee> There should be a 4 digit and a 3 digit number in the sign box
#1419 [16:06] <lutzee> you want the 3 digit
#1420 [16:07] <_DGouveia_> my card no have 3 digit number :(
#1421 [16:07] <crazilon> Is there one on the front to right of card number?
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#1423 [16:09] <_DGouveia_> nop
#1424 [16:09] <_DGouveia_> but my card say
#1425 [16:09] <_DGouveia_> Electronic use only
#1426 [16:10] <_DGouveia_> will be that of not to buy online
#1427 [16:10] <lutzee> Maybe.. phone your bank and ask
#1428 [16:10] <_DGouveia_> because i dont have 3 digit
#1429 [16:10] <_DGouveia_> on the front i have normal digits
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#1431 [16:11] <_DGouveia_> and underneath has 4 more digits
#1432 [16:11] <lutzee> "Some online stores and all offline terminals (like on trains and aircraft) do not support Visa Electron because their systems cannot check for the availability of funds."
#1433 [16:11] <crazilon> no use visa electron. use visa proton. or visa neutron.
#1434 [16:11] <lutzee> visa electron cards must have funds available, and if they cannot be checked then they cannot be used
#1435 [16:11] <_DGouveia_> then I can not buy minecraft?
#1436 [16:11] <crazilon> well there is another way.
#1437 [16:12] <lutzee> try paypal,
#1438 [16:12] <crazilon> Buy yourself a gift code
#1439 [16:12] <lutzee> crazilon, that won't work either...
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#1441 [16:12] <lutzee> _DGouveia_, try see if paypal will let you go through them instead
#1442 [16:12] <_DGouveia_> nop
#1443 [16:12] <_DGouveia_> paypal i can´t
#1444 [16:13] <_DGouveia_> rejects my card
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#1446 [16:13] <crazilon> DGov. What is your minecraft username.
#1447 [16:13] <_DGouveia_> Please help-me I love minecraft
#1448 [16:13] <_DGouveia_> D=Daniel
#1449 [16:13] <_DGouveia_> Daniel gouveia
#1450 [16:14] <crazilon> The username you chose when you registered for minecraft i mean
#1451 [16:14] <crazilon> The username you chose when you registered for minecraft i mean
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#1453 [16:14] <_DGouveia_> my minecraft username is
#1454 [16:14] <_DGouveia_> _DGouveia_
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#1456 [16:15] <_DGouveia_> why?
#1457 [16:15] <lutzee> _DGouveia_, you will need to ask someone who has a normal Visa credit/debit card then
#1458 [16:15] <Rockelg> ok guys i have a problem... when i try to join a specific server it just gets stuck on "downloading terrain" its just that one server because i can join all other servers just fine :/ please help me :)
#1459 [16:16] <crazilon> Hmm, do you have any mods installed?
#1460 [16:16] <Rockelg> no
#1461 [16:16] <_DGouveia_> :(
#1462 [16:16] <crazilon> Rockelg: What MC version are you in.
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#1464 [16:16] <Rockelg> i've forced updated minecraft
#1465 [16:16] <Rockelg> 1.3.2
#1466 [16:16] <crazilon> Ok, what MC version is the server in.
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#1468 [16:17] <elimentalhero> Where do i send my transaction ID?
#1469 [16:17] <Rockelg> 1.3.1 i think
#1470 [16:17] <_DGouveia_> not even be any way to buy?
#1471 [16:17] <Rockelg> or 1.3.2 not sure
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#1473 [16:18] <Rockelg> i've seen some youtube comments saying that the owner of the server should delete your player dat files, but i just wanted to see what you guys thought
#1474 [16:18] <crazilon> Rockelg: Check with the server admin. If server is in 1.3.1, I think server need to update.
#1475 [16:18] <Rockelg> ok thx, i'll ask
#1476 [16:18] <crazilon> No problem :)
#1477 [16:18] <elimentalhero> I bought the game for my nephew, it said its not premium, got transaction id from skrill, but the help page is generic
#1478 [16:19] <crazilon> Did you pay for minecraft?
#1479 [16:19] <lutzee> elimentalhero, http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1480 [16:19] <elimentalhero> thanks
#1481 [16:19] <lutzee> elimentalhero, note that there is a 2 1/2 month back log of support requests
#1482 [16:19] <crazilon> :o
#1483 [16:20] <elimentalhero> awesome
#1484 [16:20] <crazilon> How do I change the zoom key in optifine?
#1485 [16:20] <lutzee> crazilon, in the keybind/control options
#1486 [16:20] <_DGouveia_> not even be any way to buy?
#1487 [16:20] <crazilon> esc/Options.../Controls Does not have
#1488 [16:20] <crazilon> ofoptions.txt no have either
#1489 [16:21] <lutzee> _DGouveia_, you need too get a different card
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#1491 [16:21] <lutzee> crazilon, it's there, if it's conflicting it will be in red
#1492 [16:21] <_DGouveia_> as?
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#1494 [16:21] <_DGouveia_> how can I get a different card
#1495 [16:22] <crazilon> <.<
#1496 [16:22] <crazilon> your bank
#1497 [16:22] <lutzee> _DGouveia_, well ask your bank, say you need a card that you can do online purchases with
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#1500 [16:24] <Kanegasi> crazilon: i do warn you that this channel is only for vanilla issues, but lutzee is correct. it should be in the controls section if optifine was installed correctly. it might be hiding behind the DONE button on the left
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#1502 [16:24] <mhall> is anyone elsehaving trouble connecting to a mc server?
#1503 [16:24] <crazilon> Ok
#1504 [16:24] <Kanegasi> it is also in options
#1505 [16:25] <Kanegasi> but the keys there are using their number ids, not the key name
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#1507 [16:25] <crazilon> mhall: Mojang.com shows login / multiplayer servers as goof
#1508 [16:25] <crazilon> *good
#1509 [16:26] <_DGouveia_> i can buy game for mbnet?
#1510 [16:27] <crazilon> dgouveia: nice haircut.
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#1512 [16:28] <_DGouveia_> lol?
#1513 [16:28] <crazilon> No really.
#1514 [16:28] <crazilon> It's cool.
#1515 [16:28] <_DGouveia_> haircut?
#1516 [16:28] <crazilon> Yup.
#1517 [16:28] <crazilon> Or hairstyle I mean.
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#1519 [16:29] <_DGouveia_> nor seen my hairstyle
#1520 [16:29] <crazilon> i have seen your hairstyle.
#1521 [16:29] <_DGouveia_> You have not seen my hairstyle
#1522 [16:30] <crazilon> Yes I have.
#1523 [16:30] <_DGouveia_> lol where
#1524 [16:30] <crazilon> heard of fotolog?
#1525 [16:30] <_DGouveia_> lol give-me link
#1526 [16:30] <Boreeas> http://fotolog.com
#1527 [16:30] <crazilon> I don't know if it's you but
#1528 [16:30] <crazilon> http://us.fotolog.com/dgouveia/mosaic/
#1529 [16:31] <_DGouveia_> ahah I'm not
#1530 [16:31] <Kanegasi> question for those knowledgeable in java: as an extension to crazilon's issue, i was looking at the values in optifine's options for the key settings, but the numbers dont correspond with any known key values, like ASCII or hex. does java have their own key ids or something?
#1531 [16:31] <Kanegasi> some of the values are even negative
#1532 [16:32] <lutzee> Er, i think it's like count up from top left to bottum right sort of thing
#1533 [16:32] <lutzee> i'm not sure
#1534 [16:32] <lutzee> Mouse buttons are -v
#1535 [16:32] <lutzee> -ve
#1536 [16:32] <Kanegasi> oops, its not optifine, it's the game's "options.txt"
#1537 [16:32] <Kanegasi> derp
#1538 [16:33] <lutzee> http://www.penticoff.com/nb/kbds/ibm104kb.htm
#1539 [16:33] <Kanegasi> but yea, "key_key.attack" is -100 and use is -99, which is right click and left click respectively
#1540 [16:34] <crazilon> dun
#1541 [16:34] <Kanegasi> sense... your link makes it
#1542 [16:34] <crazilon> dun
#1543 [16:34] <crazilon> DUN
#1544 [16:34] <_DGouveia_> wow, got it
#1545 [16:35] <_DGouveia_> I could buy minecraft
#1546 [16:35] <_DGouveia_> appeared Purchase Complete!
#1547 [16:35] <lutzee> !paid DGouveia
#1548 [16:35] <Kanegasi> crazilon: if you cant find optifine's zoom in the control options, go into your options.txt file and put this on the bottom: "key_Zoom:" without the quotes, and then throw in a number from lutzee's link for the key you want
#1549 [16:35] <Kanegasi> make sure there isnt a key_zoom in there already
#1550 [16:35] <crazilon> ok, thanks
#1551 [16:36] <lutzee> _
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#1553 [16:36] <lutzee> !paid _DGouveia_
#1554 [16:36] <Kanegasi> if there is one, the default is 29, which is left control key
#1555 [16:36] <lutzee> humm
#1556 [16:36] <_DGouveia_> but
#1557 [16:36] * Kanegasi saves that link lutzee gave for future use
#1557 [16:36] <_DGouveia_> but appeared Purchase Complete!
#1558 [16:37] <crazilon> DG, pics or it didnt happen.
#1559 [16:37] <lutzee> _DGouveia_, what does http://www.minecraft.net/store say?
#1560 [16:38] <_DGouveia_> buy minecraft for this account
#1561 [16:38] <_DGouveia_> or gift code
#1562 [16:38] <crazilon> yyyou haven't paid.
#1563 [16:38] <_DGouveia_> :S
#1564 [16:38] <Kanegasi> this is gold http://i.imgur.com/kObDI.gif
#1565 [16:38] <crazilon> !paid crazilon
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#1567 [16:39] <lutzee> _DGouveia_, won't worry it can take some time for the money to reach mojang
#1568 [16:39] <_DGouveia_> about how long?
#1569 [16:40] <crazilon> wait til night.
#1570 [16:40] <crazilon> when carl wake up.
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#1572 [16:40] <_DGouveia_> I took a print of purchase
#1573 [16:40] <crazilon> Show us
#1574 [16:41] <popcorn9499> i try to play mc but it closes randomly after a few minutes
#1575 [16:41] <Kanegasi> it could be 1-3 hours, or 1-3 days, depending on how your bank handles transactions, the status of the third party transfer system, and minecraft.net's servers
#1576 [16:41] <_DGouveia_> want to see the print?
#1577 [16:41] <crazilon> yep.
#1578 [16:41] <_DGouveia_> who?
#1579 [16:41] <_DGouveia_> as?
#1580 [16:41] <Kanegasi> post a link here
#1581 [16:41] <crazilon> pop : any mods?
#1582 [16:41] <popcorn9499> i try to play mc but it closes for no reason
#1583 [16:42] <Kanegasi> do you get an error screen?
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#1585 [16:42] <popcorn9499> yes but it was working awhile ago
#1586 [16:42] <_DGouveia_> I'll wait to upload
#1587 [16:42] <popcorn9499> no error screen
#1588 [16:42] <Kanegasi> it just closes?
#1589 [16:42] <popcorn9499> yes with this on my desktop hs_err_pid5212
#1590 [16:43] <Kanegasi> open that up in notepad, copy everything, paste it to pastebin.com, and then give us the llink
#1591 [16:43] <popcorn9499> ok
#1592 [16:43] <_DGouveia_> already put in imageshack
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#1594 [16:44] <_DGouveia_> I put the link here?
#1595 [16:44] <_DGouveia_> or pm
#1596 [16:44] <Kanegasi> yes
#1597 [16:44] <crazilon> yes, put link here
#1598 [16:44] <Kanegasi> here
#1599 [16:44] <_DGouveia_> http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9994/purchase.png
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#1601 [16:44] <_DGouveia_> you see?
#1602 [16:44] <Kanegasi> and how long ago did you order? just in the last hour?
#1603 [16:45] <popcorn9499> http://pastebin.com/e4hzGfkg
#1604 [16:45] <popcorn9499> no when 1.2.5 came out
#1605 [16:45] <_DGouveia_> I bought 15 minutes will
#1606 [16:45] <lutzee> popcorn9499, what laptop do you have?
#1607 [16:45] <Kanegasi> _DGouveia_:http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380
#1608 [16:45] <popcorn9499> hp
#1609 [16:46] <lutzee> hmm'
#1610 [16:46] <lutzee> okay looks like you need to update your graphics drivers
#1611 [16:46] <lutzee> ?? gpu/amd
#1612 [16:46] <VoxelHead> gpu/amd: You can get drivers for AMD (formerly ATI) GPUs here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/auto_detect.aspx
#1613 [16:46] <crazilon> I have had it
#1614 [16:46] <popcorn9499> ok thats what i was afraid to touch
#1615 [16:46] <crazilon> with these motherfucking trolls
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#1617 [16:46] <Eddie> lolwat
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#1619 [16:47] <crazilon> Ok
#1620 [16:47] <crazilon> On this plane.
#1621 [16:47] <Kanegasi> _DGouveia_: what you have is just an id to help mojang look up your account. you need the trans ID from your email
#1622 [16:47] <_DGouveia_> I have not received anything in the mail
#1623 [16:47] <popcorn9499> thanks for the help
#1624 [16:47] <Kanegasi> your email on the account is accurate? if you used paypal, did they give you a receipt?
#1625 [16:48] <DiskDaemon> When I go to make a purchase from the store, I receive a receipt regardless of whether the transactionw as successful or not too
#1626 [16:48] <Kanegasi> receipt as in email?
#1627 [16:48] <crazilon> please pastebin receipt, show us?
#1628 [16:48] <crazilon> maybe?
#1629 [16:48] <Kanegasi> he doesnt have one
#1630 [16:48] <_DGouveia_> no i buy credit card
#1631 [16:48] <_DGouveia_> not paypal
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#1635 [16:49] <DiskDaemon> This article provides detailed information on how to identify different types of numbers relating to the purchase of minecraft http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/361380-what-is-a-transaction-id-
#1636 [16:49] <Kanegasi> DGouveia: looking at your bank account, did the money get taken?
#1637 [16:50] <DiskDaemon> _DGouveia_: If the bank records don't show that money has left your account, then you haven't paid for Minecraft. Your earlier attempt failed for some reason, which we can help with in certain ways.
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#1639 [16:53] <_DGouveia_> not in my bank withdraw nothing :S
#1640 [16:53] <_DGouveia_> then I'll never get to buy minecraft: (
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#1642 [16:53] <Kanegasi> try the payment process again. use paypal if you have it
#1643 [16:53] <_DGouveia_> i cant rejects my card
#1644 [16:54] <Kanegasi> :(
#1645 [16:54] <DiskDaemon> _DGouveia_: When you place your order, you get sent to Moneybookers to make your payment. Moneybookers charges your bank account and tells Mojang about the payment. If there are issues, you need to contact Moneybookers to find out why.
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#1647 [16:56] <_DGouveia_> i cant buy for monerbookers
#1648 [16:56] <_DGouveia_> say
#1649 [16:56] <_DGouveia_> "Depósitos de crédito / débito desativado Você não pode usar o seu cartão de crédito / débito para as próximas 24 horas. Esta restrição não pode ser levantado manualmente por você ou por nossa equipe de serviço. Por favor, volte para o site do comerciante onde vai receber mais instruções."
#1650 [16:56] <_DGouveia_> ops
#1651 [16:56] <_DGouveia_> sorry
#1652 [16:56] <_DGouveia_> "Credit/debit card deposits disabled You can not use your credit/debit card for the next 24 hours. This restriction cannot be lifted manually by you or our service team. Please return to the website of the Merchant where you will receive further instructions."
#1653 [16:57] <Kanegasi> online services just dont like your card :(
#1654 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> _DGouveia_: That message would be from Moneybookers. Contact them about your payment, and why it's not going through.
#1655 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> Not in terms of the 24 hour delay, but before that.
#1656 [16:57] <DiskDaemon> Kanegasi: Moneybookers have a 24 hour delay to prevent abuse.
#1657 [16:58] <Kanegasi> if one attempt was already done?
#1658 [16:58] <_DGouveia_> I tried to buy by credit card and paypal by not moneybooker
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#1660 [16:59] <hikilaka> i need minecraft help
#1661 [16:59] <Eddie> oh god don't play games here.
#1662 [16:59] <Kanegasi> what is the issue?
#1663 [17:00] <Kanegasi> do you have an error report? paste it to pastebin.com
#1664 [17:00] <DiskDaemon> _DGouveia_: All credit card payments with Minecraft occcur via Moneybookers.
#1665 [17:00] <DiskDaemon> That's what's happening when the Minecraft site says redirecting.
#1666 [17:00] <_DGouveia_> ok sorry
#1667 [17:00] <_DGouveia_> and now what do I do?
#1668 [17:01] <hikilaka> nevermind, Eddie helped me.
#1669 [17:01] <Eddie> lol
#1670 [17:01] <DiskDaemon> "Redirecting to provider" is what Minecraft says, and then shows you a white screen for the payment, where at the bottom it says: "By clicking the button below you confirm to have accepted the Skrill (Moneybookers) Gateway Terms of Use and Privacy Policy"
#1671 [17:01] <Kanegasi> well damn, that is a fix to minecraft. dont play it
#1672 [17:01] <Kanegasi> very smart Eddie
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#1674 [17:01] <Eddie> I saved him, I guess it's help.
#1675 [17:02] <Eddie> And I didn't mean to not play Minecraft.
#1676 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> _DGouveia_: You contact Moneybookers to find out what the problem is, that they are having with your god damned payment!
#1677 [17:02] <DiskDaemon> _DGouveia_: Why are you so reluctant to contact the people who can help?
#1678 [17:02] <Kanegasi> calm down
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#1681 [17:05] <DiskDaemon> When people ask "now what do I do" when they've been told on numerous occasions exactly what they need to do - that deserves a little bit of getting upset about.
#1682 [17:05] <Eddie> Agreed.
#1683 [17:06] <Kanegasi> we cant expect people needing help to exercise patience if we dont have it
#1684 [17:06] <DiskDaemon> Indeed - I hope he gets the message though, for I'm heading away for the day now.
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#1687 [17:10] <needshelp> when i try to move an item in my hot bar it moves to my inventory viceversa why i cant craft
#1688 [17:10] <lutzee> needshelp, restart the game
#1689 [17:11] <needshelp> ok ill try how do i just quit fully and reopen
#1690 [17:11] <lutzee> escape > save and quit to title > quit
#1691 [17:11] <needshelp> has this ever happened to anyone before?
#1692 [17:12] <lutzee> Happens all the time :)
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#1694 [17:13] <needshelp> really i just got it yesterday and nothing happened today alone its happened 10 times and once i did that and still didnt work
#1695 [17:13] <zaji> how do I get the minecraft launcher onto my desktop?
#1696 [17:13] <needshelp> maybe just cause its new
#1697 [17:14] <needshelp> download it and drag from ur downloads bar to ur desktp
#1698 [17:14] <lutzee> zaji, save it there? It's probably in your downloads folder
#1699 [17:14] <lutzee> just move it there it will still work
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#1701 [17:16] <zaji> Yes. Thank you. That worked. Also...what does it mean to migrate to Mojang?
#1702 [17:16] <lutzee> zaji, a mojang account will let you have access to all of mojangs games from one account
#1703 [17:17] <lutzee> if you migrate you have to login using the email you signed up with
#1704 [17:17] <zaji> doesn't change anything I need to klnow about?
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#1706 [17:18] <zaji> other than sign in
#1707 [17:19] <lutzee> The only problem you might have is if you have 2 minecraft accounts registered to the same email address
#1708 [17:19] <needshelp> do u think it was doing that to me cause its new
#1709 [17:19] <zaji> thanks.
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#1712 [17:26] <needshelp> how come i cantgo to a multiplayer server
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#1722 [17:51] <Kanegasi> needshelp: what is the error message?
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#1725 [17:51] <bzampaglione> hello?
#1726 [17:52] <Kanegasi> hi
#1727 [17:52] <bzampaglione> hey i had a question
#1728 [17:52] <bzampaglione> how do i get my head movment to stop lagging
#1729 [17:52] <bzampaglione> my regular movment is fine
#1730 [17:52] <bzampaglione> but when i move my mouse it laggs
#1731 [17:52] <Kanegasi> turn off head bobbing
#1732 [17:53] <bzampaglione> i did
#1733 [17:53] <Kanegasi> wait, so your mouse lags whenever you move it?
#1734 [17:53] <bzampaglione> when someone calls me on skype though it goes normal
#1735 [17:53] <bzampaglione> yea
#1736 [17:54] <Kanegasi> did you mess with the process priority for minecraft in the task manager?
#1737 [17:54] <bzampaglione> idk?
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#1739 [17:54] <Kanegasi> that'll be a no :P
#1740 [17:54] <bzampaglione> if i did how would i fix it?
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#1743 [17:55] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> im having trouble with the multiplayer can anyone help me
#1744 [17:55] <Kanegasi> in task manager, right click the java.exe go to set priority and select normal
#1745 [17:55] <bzampaglione> hwo do i fix it
#1746 [17:55] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> k thanks
#1747 [17:55] <Kanegasi> guywithproblem: no, not you
#1748 [17:56] <Kanegasi> Guywithproblem2231446656545: what is the issue?
#1749 [17:56] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> i try the servers but i always get no connection
#1750 [17:57] <Kanegasi> Guywithproblem2231446656545: what is the exact error? did you try every server you know?
#1751 [17:57] <Kanegasi> brb real quick
#1752 [17:57] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> k
#1753 [18:00] <Kanegasi> back
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#1756 [18:01] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> connection refused connect and java.net.socketexeption: network is unreachable: connect are the problems
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#1758 [18:05] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> ill ask some one else by
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#1761 [18:06] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> multiplayer on minecraft isnt working
#1762 [18:07] <Kanegasi> Guywithproblem2231446656545: try deleting jinput.jar in your .minecraft/bin folder, then force updating
#1763 [18:07] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> k
#1764 [18:07] <Kanegasi> Guywithproblem2231446656545: thats the best result i could find short of just simply deleting everything and reinstalling
#1765 [18:08] <Kanegasi> Guywithproblem2231446656545: it might also be a router issue
#1766 [18:08] <Guywithproblem2231446656545> the first thing didnt work but thanks all try reinstalling thanks by
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#1768 [18:09] <popcorn9499> i get this when minecraft closes on my desktop pc hs_err_pid5344 heres the error that it says http://pastebin.com/iSYASm9v thanks
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#1770 [18:10] <Kanegasi> try updating your java
#1771 [18:10] <popcorn9499> ok i have the latest
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#1773 [18:11] <Kanegasi> you updated since that error report?
#1774 [18:11] <popcorn9499> yes alot
#1775 [18:11] <Kanegasi> when you updated java, you uninstalled all java versions first?
#1776 [18:11] <storm> My server suddenly stopped working and i have no idea why, any suggestions?
#1777 [18:11] <popcorn9499> its not updating anymore i think its my graphics card drivers
#1778 [18:12] <popcorn9499> yea
#1779 [18:12] <Kanegasi> popcorn9499: do you have a dxdiag?
#1780 [18:12] <Kanegasi> storm: any error reports?
#1781 [18:12] <popcorn9499> what
#1782 [18:12] <storm> nope.
#1783 [18:12] <Kanegasi> ??> popcorn9499 win/dxdiag
#1784 [18:12] <VoxelHead> popcorn9499: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1785 [18:12] <VoxelHead> popcorn9499: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#1787 [18:12] <popcorn9499> i did
#1788 [18:12] <Kanegasi> link?
#1789 [18:13] <popcorn9499> http://pastebin.com/iSYASm9v
#1790 [18:13] <popcorn9499> here
#1791 [18:13] <lutzee> popcorn9499, that is something else
#1792 [18:13] <lutzee> Read exactly what VoxelHead just said
#1793 [18:13] <popcorn9499> it is what exactly
#1794 [18:13] <Kanegasi> that is the error report, not dxdiag
#1795 [18:13] <storm> it just wont let me conect
#1796 [18:13] <lutzee> Gives us some information about the hardware in your PC
#1797 [18:14] <popcorn9499> its xp
#1798 [18:14] <Kanegasi> storm: what exactly is the issue? your server doesnt work or you cant connect?
#1799 [18:14] <popcorn9499> i
#1800 [18:14] <storm> well the server.exe runs but it wont let any1 connect
#1801 [18:14] <Kanegasi> popcorn9499: follow voxelhead's instructions please
#1802 [18:15] <Kanegasi> storm: is the server running on your computer? did you open the necessary port in your firewall/router?
#1803 [18:15] <storm> i didnt have to before i had been using it for about 2 months
#1804 [18:15] <Kanegasi> any changes in your computer? any new security programs? router change?
#1805 [18:16] <Kanegasi> did your IP change?
#1806 [18:16] <storm> no
#1807 [18:17] <storm> but the computer is very old and shuts off randomly and somtimes it will give me some diff world then i have to uninstall a couple of the folders and reinstall them
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#1809 [18:18] <bzampaglione> hello
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#1811 [18:18] <bzampaglione> heloo?
#1812 [18:18] <Kanegasi> storm: interesting, not sure what the issue is
#1813 [18:18] <Kanegasi> bzampaglione: hi
#1814 [18:18] <bzampaglione> hey i still need helpo
#1815 [18:19] <bzampaglione> when i went to the task managment i couldnt find java.eve
#1816 [18:19] <Kanegasi> .exe
#1817 [18:19] <popcorn9499> here is dxdiag stuff http://pastebin.com/uRjPS0Pi
#1818 [18:19] <bzampaglione> so i couldnt set it to normal
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#1820 [18:19] <storm_> i just gotdced
#1821 [18:19] <bzampaglione> yea thats what i ment
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#1823 [18:19] <storm_> who was helping me and did you get the last 2 messages i sent
#1824 [18:19] <storm_> ?
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#1826 [18:20] <Kanegasi> storm: it sounds like more of a computer issue rather than minecraft. i suggest trying to work with cleaning up or updating drivers
#1827 [18:20] <bzampaglione> i couldt find java.eve
#1828 [18:20] <tim> helloo
#1829 [18:20] <storm_> is there a way to transfer the server files
#1830 [18:20] <popcorn9499> ok u talking to me
#1831 [18:20] <Kanegasi> bzampaglione: it's java.exe and its only there when minecraft is running
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#1833 [18:20] <Kanegasi> storm: just copy and paste
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#1835 [18:21] <storm_> ok ty
#1836 [18:21] <popcorn9499> someone can u help me
#1837 [18:21] <Guest16269> Whats up popcorn?
#1838 [18:21] <popcorn9499> i have the problem of my minecraft closes randomly
#1839 [18:21] <Guest16269> it might be crashing your pc
#1840 [18:21] <popcorn9499> what minecraft
#1841 [18:21] <1AVAAKUE6> I doubt it
#1842 [18:22] <1AVAAKUE6> he's on 32 bit windows
#1843 [18:22] <1AVAAKUE6> which commonly has that problem
#1844 [18:22] <Guest16269> Try playing it in a smaller windowed box with lower graphic settings
#1845 [18:22] <popcorn9499> it was working just a few days ago
#1846 [18:22] <Guest16269> ah
#1847 [18:22] <popcorn9499> i have great pc
#1848 [18:22] <1AVAAKUE6> popcorn9499: do you know how to launch it with reduced memory
#1849 [18:22] <Guest16269> lemee see real fast
#1850 [18:22] <popcorn9499> yea i launched it with multimc
#1851 [18:23] <popcorn9499> 512 mb ram i think
#1852 [18:23] <1AVAAKUE6> popcorn9499: launch it with 384MB
#1853 [18:23] <1AVAAKUE6> it doesnt really need more than that
#1854 [18:23] <popcorn9499> why i have enough
#1855 [18:23] <popcorn9499> it wasnt crashing
#1856 [18:23] <popcorn9499> before today
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#1858 [18:24] <1AVAAKUE6> you're on 32 bit windows right?
#1859 [18:24] <popcorn9499> i think it graphics drivers i had it on my laptop
#1860 [18:24] <popcorn9499> yea is 32
#1861 [18:24] <Kanegasi> popcorn9499: are you using a clean minecraft? what in the world is codechicken?
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#1863 [18:24] <1AVAAKUE6> minecraft has had problems with 32 bit systems for years
#1864 [18:24] <1AVAAKUE6> literally since forever.
#1865 [18:25] <popcorn9499> its nei
#1866 [18:25] <1AVAAKUE6> it has never not had issues
#1867 [18:25] <popcorn9499> like tmi
#1868 [18:25] <lutzee> Kanegasi, It's a mod, well a modders default codebase
#1869 [18:25] <popcorn9499> i use it for testing in survial
#1870 [18:25] <1AVAAKUE6> just because you're only seeing them now doesnt mean that's not the cause
#1871 [18:26] <popcorn9499> i redownloaded and everything i think its my graphics card
#1872 [18:26] <Kanegasi> popcorn9499: sometimes setting the -xmx flag in java to a lower value than default minecraft is better
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#1874 [18:26] <xevlieyn> I am connected to the internet and yet when I run the launcher it says, "cannot connect to minecraft.net" any suggestions?
#1875 [18:26] <popcorn9499> ok thanks for the tip
#1876 [18:26] <1AVAAKUE6> popcorn9499: if it were your graphics card, it wouldnt run at all
#1877 [18:26] <popcorn9499> no my drivers
#1878 [18:26] <1AVAAKUE6> popcorn9499: if it were your graphics card drivers, it wouldnt run at all
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#1880 [18:26] <popcorn9499> my other pc needed to be updated
#1881 [18:27] <popcorn9499> teaxtures were weird in vanilla too
#1882 [18:27] <popcorn9499> teaxtures were weird in vanilla too
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#1884 [18:27] <Guest16269> sounds complicated xev
#1885 [18:27] <popcorn9499> it was working yesterday and my minecraft server works too
#1886 [18:27] <Guest16269> Firewall
#1887 [18:28] <xevlieyn> I have tried updating just about everything and still cannot access the game
#1888 [18:28] <popcorn9499> firewall what
#1889 [18:28] <Guest16269> Talking to xev
#1890 [18:28] <popcorn9499> ok nvm
#1891 [18:28] <xevlieyn> I tried deactivating my firewalls too, still no good
#1892 [18:28] <1AVAAKUE6> xevlieyn: when did this start
#1893 [18:28] <Guest16269> she should maybe check her firewall
#1894 [18:28] <xevlieyn> I just bought the game today, it hasnt worked yet
#1895 [18:29] <1AVAAKUE6> do you have a ! in your windows username
#1896 [18:29] <1AVAAKUE6> I bet you do
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#1898 [18:29] <popcorn9499> my minecraft closes for no reason minecraft worked and i loaded a backup still not good
#1899 [18:29] <xevlieyn> i actually did, but read that it could be the issue so i chaNGED IT AND STILL CANNOT CONNECT
#1900 [18:29] <Guest16269> =(
#1901 [18:29] <1AVAAKUE6> popcorn9499: I told you what's wrong
#1902 [18:29] <1AVAAKUE6> xevlieyn: you can't just change it
#1903 [18:29] <xevlieyn> srry caps lock
#1904 [18:29] <popcorn9499> what
#1905 [18:29] <1AVAAKUE6> ??> xevlieyn win/!
#1906 [18:30] <VoxelHead> xevlieyn: (win/!) Having exclamation marks or other special characters in your windows username can break minecraft. A workaround is available. Download and run the following file:
#1907 [18:30] <VoxelHead> xevlieyn: (win/!) Special Character Workaround: http://mcfaq.hfbgaming.com/tools/WindowsProfileFix.exe NOTE: We do not guarantee this will work and it may break other parts of Minecraft! Use at your own risk. Must be run as an Administrator.
#1908 [18:30] <1AVAAKUE6> popcorn9499: its a memory issue
#1909 [18:30] <popcorn9499> ok i will try now
#1910 [18:30] <popcorn9499> i have always ovewr 512 ram free
#1911 [18:30] <popcorn9499> over
#1912 [18:31] <xevlieyn> thanks much i will try that
#1913 [18:31] <popcorn9499> i will try
#1914 [18:31] <1AVAAKUE6> popcorn9499: try with 384
#1915 [18:31] <popcorn9499> ok
#1916 [18:31] <1AVAAKUE6> because its a nice round number
#1917 [18:31] <popcorn9499> will try with something closed first
#1918 [18:32] <popcorn9499> found out it was hogging all of my pc
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#1920 [18:32] <xevlieyn> wow, its working now, thanks so much
#1921 [18:33] <1AVAAKUE6> xevlieyn: if you ever need help again, make sure to remember that you have that workaround
#1922 [18:33] <xevlieyn> no problem
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#1924 [18:36] <mama2abc> I have 3 children and all 3 love playing Minecraft. We have purchased one minecraft account (they have been sharing). Is there a way to purchase another account with the same email?
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#1926 [18:37] <lutzee> mama2abc, No, this is not possible, you will have to make a new email address for each
#1927 [18:37] <1AVAAKUE6> mama2abc: It used to be possible but weird complications could arise if you have more than one account per email address, especially with migrated accounts.
#1928 [18:38] <mama2abc> Thanks for the responses! I guess I will need to create new emails... kind of annoying. All for the love of Minecraft, I guess! LOL
#1929 [18:39] <popcorn9499> thanks for helping it fixed it
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#1938 [19:06] <cubethenube> When I tried to join a server, it gave me an error message that Minecraft has crashed. What do I do to fix this?
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#1941 [19:16] <AmberK> the miracle of descriptive people
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#1946 [19:26] <alex_> why is my debit card blocked for 24 hours
#1947 [19:27] <oldtopman> alex_: Because your credit card company thought your credit card was stolen, because Mojang is in sweeden and an international transaction.
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#1950 [19:30] <foofighter24> I need help with open gl error
#1951 [19:31] <foofighter24> anyone?
#1952 [19:32] <NinjaKirby> Galactic Llama Error
#1953 [19:33] <foofighter24> annnyone
#1954 [19:33] <geraldbrent> foofighter24, describe it.
#1955 [19:33] <geraldbrent> We cannot help you until we can determin the problem.
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#1958 [19:35] <foofighter24> I start up minecraft, login fine, and it gives me a black screen in the client, then it gives me a screen that says opengl error, bad video card drivers, but the thing is i've played before and then this started happening to me, i've deleted my .minecraft and reinstalled it, i've lower and raised my graphics but nothing
#1959 [19:35] <1AVAAKUE6> foofighter24: on that computer? no reinstalls or anything?
#1960 [19:35] <foofighter24> nope
#1961 [19:35] <foofighter24> I played on servers and single player, then one day it just stopped working
#1962 [19:36] <foofighter24> I can post a joinme link if you want to see the whole error report, or I can copy paste here
#1963 [19:36] <lutzee> pastebin.com would be preferable :)
#1964 [19:37] <foofighter24> 1 moment
#1965 [19:37] <foofighter24> http://pastebin.com/qhJPK3ie
#1966 [19:37] <VoxelHead> foofighter24: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#1967 [19:37] <VoxelHead> foofighter24: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#1968 [19:38] <Startthecircus> Hey Folks! I just bought minecraft and downloaded the zip but when I unpack it in OS X Mountain Lion and try to run the launch application it says '"Minecraft is Damaged and should be moved to the trash." Any suggestions on what I should do?
#1969 [19:38] * lutzee pats AuBot
#1969 [19:40] <lutzee> Startthecircus, on lion mac has stopped applications that aren't from the store thing from running theres an option somewhere that lets you run them
#1970 [19:40] <lutzee> Not being a mac user i can't remember where this is
#1971 [19:40] <Startthecircus> hahaha Okay sweet! I'll look for it. Thank you!
#1972 [19:42] <foofighter24> http://pastebin.com/iR2rZaCc
#1973 [19:42] <lutzee> ??> foofighter24 gpu/intel
#1974 [19:42] <VoxelHead> foofighter24: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#1975 [19:43] <foofighter24> what should I search for
#1976 [19:44] * Fishfish0001|afk is now known as :Fishfish0001
#1977 [19:45] <lutzee> foofighter24, here this one http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=18774&ProdId=2800&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20%20Professional*&DownloadType=Drivers
#1978 [19:46] <foofighter24> thanks i'll probably have to restart, i'll get back to you guys when its done
#1979 [19:47] <foofighter24> that didn't work, I got an error message saying it wasn't for my machine
#1980 [19:48] <lutzee> :|
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#1982 [19:50] <foofighter24> not validated for this computer. please find the apropriate version from the manufacturer
#1983 [19:51] <lutzee> foofighter24, do you know the exact model of the laptop?
#1984 [19:51] <foofighter24> levovo t-61 I think thats what your asking
#1985 [19:53] <lutzee> :| it's no longer listed on there website, let me dig some more
#1986 [19:54] <foofighter24> thanks for the effort
#1987 [19:58] <Cael> sorry last night i kinda passed out, but i may aswell reask, are Enderchests (vanilla 1.3.1/.3) storing thier contents within the player dats or elsewhere?
#1988 [19:59] <lutzee> Nothing :/
#1989 [20:00] <lutzee> foofighter24, sorry but your laptop doesn't seem to be listed anywhere :/
#1990 [20:01] <foofighter24> darn, well thanks for trying guys
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#1993 [20:03] <Skidiee> hello
#1994 [20:03] <Skidiee> i got one question
#1995 [20:04] <lutzee> Then ask your question :)
#1996 [20:04] <artbmine> can't download .minecraft folder somehow only part of it is downloading it is missing about 13 kb
#1997 [20:04] <Skidiee> i bought gift code today, i just wanna know where will i get it and when
#1998 [20:04] <lutzee> Skidiee, you should receive and email with it in, failing that it should appear at the bottom of www.minecraft.net/profile
#1999 [20:05] <lutzee> artbmine, do you have avg by any chance?
#2000 [20:05] <artbmine> whats avg?
#2001 [20:05] <Skidiee> how much hours or days i need wait?
#2002 [20:05] <lutzee> Then that's a no, artbmine what antivirus software do you have installed on your PC?
#2003 [20:06] <lutzee> Skidiee, it should appear when mojang receives payment,
#2004 [20:06] <artbmine> cox mcafee
#2005 [20:06] <Skidiee> great then..
#2006 [20:06] <lutzee> artbmine, try temporarily disabling mcafee while you let it download the files
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#2008 [20:07] <artbmine> tried it already
#2009 [20:07] <artbmine> it downloaded only 257 out of the 270 kb
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#2011 [20:08] <artbmine> which means it didnt ndownload the .minecraft folder
#2012 [20:09] <artbmine> there is nothing wrong with my computer
#2013 [20:10] <artbmine> guy at best buy couldnt get it to download either
#2014 [20:10] <artbmine> hello?
#2015 [20:11] <lutzee> Well something is blocking the download, and i highly doubt some guy at bestbuy could fix something like this
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#2017 [20:12] <artbmine> geek squad sorry
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#2019 [20:13] <lutzee> Yeah, still doubting he could help, anyway, does it affect any other user accounts on the PC?
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#2021 [20:17] <artbmine> im the only user on this computer, all other accounts are working fine
#2022 [20:18] <artbmine> do i close all of mcafee down or just the firewall
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#2024 [20:19] <lutzee> artbmine, all of mcafee theres often other parts of antivirus programs that can cause problems
#2025 [20:19] <artbmine> ok
#2026 [20:20] <artbmine> can i take down mcafee, download minecraft, and keep chatting with u
#2027 [20:21] <lutzee> It's gone 1am here, so i need to sleep, someone else will be around soonish, keep an eye out
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#2036 [20:25] <xEpicWarrior> Hello :)
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#2038 [20:25] <xEpicWarrior> Anyone know why people wouldn't be able to connect to my server?
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#2041 [20:27] <Mike_> is there a number to call abnout buying games
#2042 [20:27] <Mike_> buying minecraft
#2043 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> There is not
#2044 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> What seems to be the problem?
#2045 [20:28] <Mike_> no customer support number?
#2046 [20:28] <GreyVulpine> What seems to be the problem exactly?
#2047 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Mojang doesn't handle payments directly. Contacting them in any manner wouldn't do you any good.
#2048 [20:29] <GreyVulpine> Now, if you can tell me what the problem is, maybe I can point you in the right direction.
#2049 [20:29] <Mike_> paypal wont work with payment and typing in card wont work and checked account and everything in clear money wise
#2050 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> With what card are you using to pay with?
#2051 [20:30] <Mike_> credit/debit
#2052 [20:30] <GreyVulpine> Could you be more specific?
#2053 [20:30] <Mike_> master card
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#2056 [20:31] <GreyVulpine> Is this a credit card? Is this a prepaid card? Is this something from your bank, or is this a regular credit card?
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#2059 [20:31] <Mike_> bank debit card
#2060 [20:32] <Mike_> debit card from bank
#2061 [20:33] <GreyVulpine> Ah. First call I would make would be to your bank. There'll be a number on the back of the card for customer support. Ask them two things. First, if you can use it to make payments online at Paypal. Second, if they are, if international transactions happen to be blocked by any anti-fraud prevention measures that are typical for overseas purchases.
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#2063 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> Many times, customers need to verbally authorize purchases that will be made online, and for transactions that are overseas. This way, the bank knows not to block the transaction. After this, I would try to contact Paypal at:
#2064 [20:34] <Mike_> might b the international transaction deal cuz i ran into that problem in past
#2065 [20:34] <GreyVulpine> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/helpscr?cmd=_help&t=escalateTab
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#2078 [21:01] <altron01> hi i got a problem. when i start minecraft shows me this Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 20/08/12 20:00 - Minecraft Version: 1.3.2 - Operating System: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0, Oracle Corpo
#2079 [21:01] <GreyVulpine>  This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. 
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#2081 [21:02] <altron01> i have already done it but i still having the same problem
#2082 [21:02] <GreyVulpine> How did you attempt to update your video drivers?
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#2084 [21:04] <altron01> i go to the oficial page of AMD and i download a program that automatly detect and install the driver that i need
#2085 [21:04] <GreyVulpine> What video card do you have?
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#2088 [21:07] <altron01> i dont really know
#2089 [21:07] <GreyVulpine> Windows?
#2090 [21:08] <altron01> yes
#2091 [21:08] <GreyVulpine> ??> altron01 win/dxdiag
#2092 [21:08] <VoxelHead> altron01: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2093 [21:08] <VoxelHead> altron01: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2096 [21:09] <MOORE21> um hello
#2097 [21:09] <Ephraim> Hello
#2098 [21:10] <altron01> i cant find the win key
#2099 [21:10] <MOORE21> i was wondering why people who have purchased the ful game for the computer dont get a free code for the x box
#2100 [21:10] <GreyVulpine> They're seperate games, made by seperate companies. Mojang does the PC version, while 4J does the xbox
#2101 [21:11] <MOORE21> o i guess that makes sense but i still think we should get something mojang is still getting paid for the x box version
#2102 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> That's fine, that's your opinion.
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#2104 [21:11] <GreyVulpine> Still isn't going to happen though.
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#2106 [21:12] <MOORE21> this makes me sad i need 600 microsoft points for the game haha
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#2108 [21:14] <altron01> i think i have the PCI Exps HD7750 1GB Gigabyte DDR5 Ati radeon
#2109 [21:16] <GreyVulpine> Could you give me the dxdiag report?
#2110 [21:17] <altron01> Bad video card drivers! ----------------------- Minecraft was unable to start because it failed to find an accelerated OpenGL mode. This can usually be fixed by updating the video card drivers. --- BEGIN ERROR REPORT 7fe0271 -------- Generated 20/08/12 20:16 - Minecraft Version: 1.3.2 - Operating System: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1 - Java Version: 1.7.0, Oracle Corporation - Java VM Version: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server V
#2111 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> That's not what I asked for.
#2112 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> Follow VoxelHead's instructions, please:
#2113 [21:17] <GreyVulpine> ??> altron01 win/dxdiag
#2114 [21:17] <VoxelHead> altron01: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2115 [21:17] <VoxelHead> altron01: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2116 [21:21] <altron01> http://pastebin.com/VjC5htqn
#2117 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Hmm, there doesn't seem to be a video driver installed on that machine currently.
#2118 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Notice how the field(s) beneath "Display Devices" are blank
#2119 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> You do however, have a AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series video card.
#2120 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Please download and install these drivers: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonaiw_vista64.aspx
#2121 [21:23] <GreyVulpine> Reboot when asked at the end of the installation, then try minecraft again
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#2123 [21:24] <altron01> i am downloading but it will take some minutes
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#2125 [21:27] <fenzzer> I just bought this game, but cannot run it
#2126 [21:27] <fenzzer> error 998
#2127 [21:27] <fenzzer> it keeps giving me
#2128 [21:27] <fenzzer> if it doesnt work i want my money back
#2129 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> Reinstall your video drivers
#2130 [21:27] <GreyVulpine> It's a common problem with ati video cards
#2131 [21:28] <fenzzer> im not goin through 18 hours of work to play this game
#2132 [21:28] <fenzzer> if its a common problem
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#2134 [21:28] <fenzzer> they should post it when downloading
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#2137 [21:28] <fenzzer> who do i talk to about getting my damn money back
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#2139 [21:28] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#2140 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> Good luck.
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#2142 [21:29] <FALMODZS> Why everytime i try to play the demo it shows a crash error
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#2144 [21:29] <mcj> my mac says my download is trash.
#2145 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> ??> mcj mac/gatekeeper
#2146 [21:29] <VoxelHead> mcj: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
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#2148 [21:29] <GreyVulpine> FALMODZS - What error?
#2149 [21:30] <FALMODZS> Like its shows on my screen blue background and it wont let it loud and the computer is new
#2150 [21:31] <FALMODZS> Load*
#2151 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> Try reinstalling java.
#2152 [21:31] <FALMODZS> ok
#2153 [21:31] <mcj> thanks for the security tip.
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#2162 [21:44] <jdtm> My minecraft works perfectly fine for about 5-10 minutes, then drops down to 0-2 fps, and my entire computer slows down. only way to fix is to resize the window or kill minecraft. I've tried openjdk6,7, and oraclejava7, optifine, allocating more ram, none of which seems to help the issue. current os is Xubuntu 12.04 64bit. Google is also of no help. Any help or ideas?
#2163 [21:45] <1AVAAKUE6> you are using 64 bit java yes?
#2164 [21:45] <jdtm> yes
#2165 [21:45] <1AVAAKUE6> could it be a graphics driver issue
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#2167 [21:47] <jdtm> i dont think so, ive updated it from 295.XX(cant remember) to 304.37 current
#2168 [21:47] <1AVAAKUE6> and it did this both times?
#2169 [21:47] <jdtm> yes
#2170 [21:47] <1AVAAKUE6> does your cpu usage spike when it happens
#2171 [21:48] <jdtm> it does, but then i watch it drop back to like 20% but it still lags till i resize or relaunch
#2172 [21:49] <1AVAAKUE6> I honestly have no idea
#2173 [21:50] <1AVAAKUE6> are there any old versions of kernels you can try?
#2174 [21:50] <1AVAAKUE6> did it start after a specific update? has it ever worked
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#2176 [21:51] <jdtm> it's done this as long as i remember, but it was only like once every few hours. only recently it got this bad. im suspecting its because of the 1.3 update
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#2191 [22:17] <thomaskhanh> hello can any 1 help me
#2192 [22:18] <gv> With
#2193 [22:19] <thomaskhanh> how do i unstall minecraft off my computer and install back on cuz my minecraft is not working at all
#2194 [22:19] <gv> What os are you on?
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#2196 [22:20] <thomaskhanh> mean computer
#2197 [22:20] <thomaskhanh> im on a dell
#2198 [22:20] <thomaskhanh> desk top
#2199 [22:20] <gv> ??> thomaskhanh win/reinst
#2200 [22:20] <VoxelHead> thomaskhanh: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2201 [22:20] <VoxelHead> thomaskhanh: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2202 [22:21] <thomaskhanh> ok thanks
#2203 [22:22] <thomaskhanh> if that dont work what els cant i do to get it back on
#2204 [22:24] <gv> If that doesn't work, come back on and describe your problem
#2205 [22:25] <thomaskhanh> ok thanx
#2206 [22:30] <thomaskhanh> i have a ? when i try to install the mods like for wands or what ever it never work for me i see ppl useing it all the time
#2207 [22:32] <gv> Make sure you follow the instructions carefully. Also the mod must be updated for the version of minecraft you are running
#2208 [22:32] <thomaskhanh> i did when i put the new modloader that what mess up my minecraft
#2209 [22:32] <gv> If you install an old version of a mod, minecraft will blackscreen
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#2211 [22:33] <thomaskhanh> yea that what it did and it was a new one
#2212 [22:33] <hi> i have a troubleshooting question
#2213 [22:33] <gv> If you don't follow the instructions carefully, minecraft will blacksvreen
#2214 [22:33] <thomaskhanh> ok
#2215 [22:33] <thomaskhanh> well thanx alot 4 your help
#2216 [22:34] * gv nods
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#2217 [22:34] <gv> Hello hi.
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#2219 [22:34] <hi> (my wifi is connected fyi) when i tryto login i have to play offline it won't let me play online what do i do
#2220 [22:35] <gv> What error do you get?
#2221 [22:35] <hi> what do u mean
#2222 [22:35] <gv> What error do you get when you try to login?
#2223 [22:35] <hi> login failed
#2224 [22:35] <gv> Then your username or password is being entered wrong
#2225 [22:36] <gv> Recheck and retype your password
#2226 [22:36] <hi> no its right
#2227 [22:36] <gv> If that doesn't work, request a password reset.
#2228 [22:36] <hi> where
#2229 [22:36] <gv> Check minecraft.net
#2230 [22:37] <gv> It'll be a under the login page
#2231 [22:37] <hi> k
#2232 [22:37] <hi> one sec still there
#2233 [22:38] <gv> Yes
#2234 [22:38] <hi> k
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#2237 [22:38] <Deb> Hello?..
#2238 [22:39] <gv> Hi
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#2240 [22:39] <hi> still here
#2241 [22:39] <gv> Yes
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#2243 [22:40] <Deb> I bought minecraft for my son, but he accidentally redeemed it on MY account? How can we switch it to his?
#2244 [22:41] <hi> still there
#2245 [22:41] <Deb> I bought it as a gift
#2246 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Deb - As we are community-run support, we have no access to Account information. You'll need to contact Mojang directly at http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2247 [22:41] <GreyVulpine> Deb - Please also provide the transaction ID as well
#2248 [22:42] <Deb> Oh, ok thanks for that website!
#2249 [22:42] <hi> can u guys get the new password
#2250 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> hi - I'm sorry, what?
#2251 [22:43] <hi> can u get the new password
#2252 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> hi - Try using this website to request a new password reset link: http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword
#2253 [22:43] <GreyVulpine> It'll send an email which you'll use to reset your password
#2254 [22:44] <hi> k
#2255 [22:44] <Spearmad23> Hello, I need help
#2256 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> Spearmad23 - With?
#2257 [22:44] <hi> did u send it
#2258 [22:44] <GreyVulpine> hi - It's an automated process
#2259 [22:45] <Spearmad23> I Forgot the email of my account T_T
#2260 [22:45] <hi> ok
#2261 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Spearmad23 - We cannot help you with that.
#2262 [22:45] <Spearmad23> And My password
#2263 [22:45] <Spearmad23> Oh ok
#2264 [22:45] <Spearmad23> Who Can I Ask For With That?
#2265 [22:45] <hi> i have another question
#2266 [22:45] <GreyVulpine> Spearmad23 - http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2267 [22:46] <GreyVulpine> hi - We have answers\
#2268 [22:46] <Spearmad23> Thank You
#2269 [22:46] <hi> can u walk me through installing a mod
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#2271 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> hi - Sorry, perhaps somebody else can do that. I have not used a mod in months.
#2272 [22:47] <hi> well can i talk to them
#2273 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> If anybody is around and feels like helping, they're free to.
#2274 [22:47] <GreyVulpine> As this is a community-run chat channel, nobody is paid for their time here. We're all volunteers.
#2275 [22:47] <hi> thats nice of u
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#2278 [22:49] <hi> HELLO?
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#2280 [22:50] <hi> still there i didn't get the email
#2281 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Did you put in your username at http://www.minecraft.net/resetpassword ?
#2282 [22:50] <hi> yes
#2283 [22:50] <GreyVulpine> Check your email's spam folder.
#2284 [22:50] <hi> ok
#2285 [22:51] <GreyVulpine> Are you sure you're checking the right email that's associated with your minecraft account? Check all the email accounts you normally use.
#2286 [22:51] <hi> k
#2287 [22:54] <hi> STILL THERE
#2288 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> Yes.
#2289 [22:54] <hi> k changed my password
#2290 [22:54] <Spearmad23> Hey Is GreyVulpine still here?
#2291 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> I'm still here.
#2292 [22:54] <GreyVulpine> hi - Try logging in now.
#2293 [22:54] <Spearmad23> I Just want to say thank you so much
#2294 [22:55] * GreyVulpine nods.
#2294 [22:56] <hi> Thank u SO MUCH it worked i will definetley recommend u to people
#2295 [22:56] <Spearmad23> Hey HI Do You Still need help with installing a mod?
#2296 [22:56] <hi> yes
#2297 [22:57] <Spearmad23> mac or pc or linuix?
#2298 [22:57] <hi> pc
#2299 [22:57] <Spearmad23> ok
#2300 [22:57] <hi> i want to install mo creatures
#2301 [22:57] <Spearmad23> in you start menu type "%appdata%"
#2302 [22:57] <Spearmad23> ytkk
#2303 [22:57] <hi> what
#2304 [22:58] <Spearmad23> ytkthe windows thing in the bottom left
#2305 [22:58] <hi> yes
#2306 [22:58] <Spearmad23> i cant type to save my life *facepalm*
#2307 [22:58] <Spearmad23> did you type "%Appdata%"?
#2308 [22:58] <hi> 'cone sec
#2309 [22:59] <hi> one sec
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#2311 [22:59] <Spearmad23> Umm This Will Help You Just Follow This Guide
#2312 [22:59] <hi> still there
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#2314 [22:59] <Spearmad23> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kctnBTu96JY
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#2316 [23:00] <hi> thanks
#2317 [23:00] <hi> cbye
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#2319 [23:00] * GreyVulpine waves
#2319 [23:00] <miningPIGS> Why can I not switch between 1st and 3rd person at F5 anymore?
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#2322 [23:01] <miningPIGS> why can I no longer switch between first and third person view
#2323 [23:02] <natleyton> hey
#2324 [23:02] <natleyton> how do i fix java virtual machine
#2325 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> uninstall and reinstall java
#2326 [23:02] <GreyVulpine> miningPIGS - And what happens when you press the f5 button?
#2327 [23:02] <natleyton> ok ill tru thaks
#2328 [23:03] <miningPIGS> nothing
#2329 [23:03] <GreyVulpine> miningPIGS - Using any mods?
#2330 [23:03] <miningPIGS> all the others work like F1 to clear the screen
#2331 [23:03] <miningPIGS> no
#2332 [23:03] <miningPIGS> it is like this even on server games
#2333 [23:04] <GreyVulpine> What version of minecraft are you running?
#2334 [23:04] <miningPIGS> 1.3.2
#2335 [23:05] <GreyVulpine> What operating system are you on?
#2336 [23:05] <miningPIGS> any ideas?
#2337 [23:05] <miningPIGS> on windows 7
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#2339 [23:06] <GreyVulpine> Sorry, I don't really have a clue right now. It's a non-customizable control. It's hardcoded. Unless you're running some sort of macro program that remapped the f5 key to something else, it should work fine
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#2341 [23:07] <acolytetojippity> heyyyy...2 quick questions
#2342 [23:07] <miningPIGS> there is no option under the control menu for the view toggle but it stopped working for me today for some reason
#2343 [23:07] <acolytetojippity> 1) how do i stop myself from getting disconnect.genericReason crashes? they occur on my server, and also anywhere else i play. they started yesterday/2 days ago.
#2344 [23:07] * GreyVulpine shrugs
#2344 [23:07] <GreyVulpine> Sorry.
#2345 [23:08] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - There's not just *one* cause of that disconnect message, hence the 'genericReason'
#2346 [23:08] <acolytetojippity> well...it seems to not happen when my render distance is set to 'normal'
#2347 [23:09] <acolytetojippity> but i should in no way need to run it like that
#2348 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> 32 or 64 bit OS?
#2349 [23:09] <acolytetojippity> 64
#2350 [23:09] <GreyVulpine> Are you running 64 bit java?
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#2352 [23:09] <natleyton> didnt fix it
#2353 [23:09] <acolytetojippity> i believe so.
#2354 [23:09] <acolytetojippity> this only started like, 2 days ago
#2355 [23:09] <acolytetojippity> after i'd played on my personal server a ton beforehand
#2356 [23:10] <acolytetojippity> and before i updated either client or server to 1.3.2
#2357 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - Running any HD texture packs, or mods?
#2358 [23:10] <acolytetojippity> none
#2359 [23:10] <acolytetojippity> i have my char. skinned, but that's it
#2360 [23:10] <natleyton> how do you fix java virtual machne
#2361 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - Running the server locally, on the same machine you're playing on?
#2362 [23:10] <acolytetojippity> would 64 bit java fix this you think?
#2363 [23:10] <acolytetojippity> and yes, locally.
#2364 [23:10] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - Don't think so, just throwing ideas out here.
#2365 [23:10] <acolytetojippity> but it was working 100% fine a week or two ago
#2366 [23:10] <natleyton> ????
#2367 [23:11] <natleyton> help!!!
#2368 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> natleyton only/you
#2369 [23:11] <VoxelHead> natleyton: (only/you) Moved to irc/multitasking
#2370 [23:11] <GreyVulpine> ??> natleyton irc/multitasking
#2371 [23:11] <VoxelHead> natleyton: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
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#2373 [23:11] <natleyton> ?
#2374 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - Hmm. How about any security software, any firewalls? Anything that is monitoring or filtering network connections?
#2375 [23:12] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity -Did you recently install, or have updated any security software?
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#2377 [23:12] <acolytetojippity> doubtful. i haven't put anything new on in these past few weeks.
#2378 [23:12] <acolytetojippity> do you think 64 bit java might work better? i have 32 atm, for some odd reason
#2379 [23:13] <GreyVulpine> It would. 64 bit java does help significantly in both performance and memory allocation issues.
#2380 [23:13] <acolytetojippity> hmmm, it's still odd that it just started screwing up
#2381 [23:13] <acolytetojippity> i'll try that tomorrow. but my second problem
#2382 [23:13] <acolytetojippity> beds don't work in my server. we sleep fine, but our spawn points don't change
#2383 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> That's unusual.
#2384 [23:14] <GreyVulpine> Are you all staying in bed until the next morning?
#2385 [23:14] <acolytetojippity> i know. everywhere i look online tells me "that's not what's happening. beds work in smp. stop lying, go away"
#2386 [23:14] <acolytetojippity> yes
#2387 [23:14] <acolytetojippity> we stay until the game makes us stand up
#2388 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Again, any mods? Is the server modded in any way?
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#2390 [23:15] <acolytetojippity> not at all. perfectly vanillia
#2391 [23:15] <acolytetojippity> not even running bukkit
#2392 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> Huh..
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#2394 [23:15] <acolytetojippity> straight 1.3.2 server exec from minecraft.net, freshly downloaded yesterday
#2395 [23:15] <GreyVulpine> As far as I know, beds work.
#2396 [23:15] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> can some one help me fix java virtual machine not enought space???
#2397 [23:16] <acolytetojippity> is that you natleyton?
#2398 [23:16] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> maby
#2399 [23:16] <acolytetojippity> thought so
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#2401 [23:16] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> may you plase help me
#2402 [23:16] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - And you generated a new world as well?
#2403 [23:17] <acolytetojippity> when?
#2404 [23:17] <nglxminecraft> i just bought minecraft for my son 3hrs ago why cnt he play i paid 26.95
#2405 [23:17] <acolytetojippity> like, when i started the server?
#2406 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> When you launched the 1.3.2 server
#2407 [23:17] <acolytetojippity> no. absolutely not.
#2408 [23:17] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - I'm sorry?
#2409 [23:18] <nglxminecraft> i have order number..
#2410 [23:18] <acolytetojippity> i didn't start a new world. i just replaced the server.exe with the new one. and it's not just on my server
#2411 [23:18] <nglxminecraft> it said after i bought it wait one hour
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#2413 [23:18] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> :)
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#2415 [23:18] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - Try generating a new world entirely to test
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#2417 [23:19] <acolytetojippity> hmmm, ok. i'll try that. single player or multiplayer?
#2418 [23:19] <acolytetojippity> cause we really don't want to lose our progress
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#2420 [23:19] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - Multiplayer, using the freshly downloaded server exe
#2421 [23:19] <nglxminecraft> does anyone no how to hepl me figure this out
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#2423 [23:19] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> what do you need help with?
#2424 [23:19] <acolytetojippity> i don't actually remember how to make a new server lol. i just double-click the server.exe and it starts up our world
#2425 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> acolytetojippity - Put the server.exe in a new folder. It generates the world if there isn't on already.
#2426 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> one*
#2427 [23:20] <nglxminecraft> it says he didnt buy the game but it gave me an order number
#2428 [23:20] <GreyVulpine> nglxminecraft - Please call your financial institution. Make sure the transaction was completed on their end, and money was debited out of the account
#2429 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> nglxminecraft - If it wasn't, the transaction was not completed.
#2430 [23:21] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> did it give ou a credit card order number?
#2431 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> nglxminecraft - For more information, please read: http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#2432 [23:21] <nglxminecraft> ok is that why it said it could take up to 24 hrs??
#2433 [23:21] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> java virtual fix??
#2434 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> Specifically, "
#2435 [23:21] <GreyVulpine> There is occasionally an issue on Minecraft.net where a failed transaction sends a customer to the payment confirmation screen. If after a few hours you have only received a 32 character order number, and not a transaction ID from Paypal or Moneybookers, it is unlikely that the transaction was successful.
#2436 [23:22] <nglxminecraft> yep it was a 32
#2437 [23:23] <nglxminecraft> ok thank u ill keep watch on my bank account to see if it went though thank u
#2438 [23:23] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> ?
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#2440 [23:24] <Deb> I forgot the website to type to ask about a refund... Can you help?
#2441 [23:25] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/359338-can-i-get-a-refund-
#2442 [23:25] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> ive been here for 5 min i need help please :)
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#2444 [23:26] <BenMcLean> hey should i be using mc edit to generate blueprints from structures I've made or is there a different program or what? is it compatbile with latest minecraft or will there be issues?
#2445 [23:26] <dfwewefwafwefwefwefwefwefwaefa> hfuihrefuierhfwerwerwerwer
#2446 [23:26] <GreyVulpine> MCedit should still work
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#2448 [23:26] <BenMcLean> oh good
#2449 [23:27] <Eddie> Why do people have to pick such stupidly long names?
#2450 [23:27] <Smanly> ^
#2451 [23:27] <GreyVulpine> Attention.
#2452 [23:27] <acolytetojippity> @greyvulpine yeah...it didn't work so well. the spawn seems to be semi random on the test server. random places within a small area, not on the bed.
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#2454 [23:28] <Smanly> Eddie: http://imgur.com/DesJY
#2455 [23:28] <Smanly> Like, waddafack
#2456 [23:29] <Eddie> lol
#2457 [23:29] <GreyVulpine> I'm not quite sure if that's the right behavior. Haven't actually touched minecraft in months.
#2458 [23:30] * Iaccidentally is now known as :Zalgo
#2459 [23:30] <acolytetojippity> i'll have to ask on the minecraft forums and pray to the gods of the internet for a response
#2460 [23:30] <acolytetojippity> because i'm finding absolutely nothing on google.
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#2465 [23:35] <BenMcLean> it seems like old mc edit doesn't know about sandstone
#2466 [23:35] <BenMcLean> or upside down steps
#2467 [23:35] <BenMcLean> also my signs seem to be appearing as wood blocks
#2468 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Erm
#2469 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> Make sure you're using the latest version of MCedit?
#2470 [23:35] <GreyVulpine> ?? mcedit
#2471 [23:35] <VoxelHead> mcedit: https://github.com/mcedit/mcedit/downloads
#2472 [23:36] <thomaskhanh> if i install Minecraft 1.3.1 Glorite+v1.2 for wands will that work cuz i cant fine any 1.3.2.
#2473 [23:37] <acolytetojippity> is that java more memory guy still here?
#2474 [23:37] <GreyVulpine> thomaskhanhm - If you're installing a 1.3.1 mod on minecraft 1.3.2, it will likely not work.
#2475 [23:37] <acolytetojippity> cause i found his answer i think
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#2477 [23:37] <acolytetojippity> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/350344-allocating-more-memory-to-java-windows/
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#2479 [23:38] <thomaskhanh> do u no where i can get any wands 1.3.2
#2480 [23:38] <GreyVulpine> Ask the mod's creator
#2481 [23:38] <thomaskhanh> im trying to learn how to build faster
#2482 [23:39] <thomaskhanh> ok
#2483 [23:39] <Chaos234> hello
#2484 [23:39] <Chaos234> GreyVulpine?
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#2486 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> Yes?
#2487 [23:40] <Chaos234> I've a problem with a shop
#2488 [23:40] <GreyVulpine> A shop?
#2489 [23:40] <Chaos234> and google only shows me chest shops
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#2491 [23:41] <Chaos234> for minecraft, so that players can buy things
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#2493 [23:41] <max_> i cant download mc on my mac
#2494 [23:41] <GreyVulpine> ??> max_ mac/gatekeeper
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#2496 [23:41] <VoxelHead> max_: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2497 [23:41] <Chaos234> the problem is, that I won't have a chest shop
#2498 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Chaos234 - Well, chestshop is one of the most popular shop plugins for bukkit
#2499 [23:42] <Chaos234> there is a other shop
#2500 [23:42] <Chaos234> without a chest
#2501 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Chaos234 - I'm sorry, I'm not really the right person to ask about bukkit plugins. You may have better luck in #bukkit instead
#2502 [23:42] <max_> thanks
#2503 [23:42] <Chaos234> on this server?
#2504 [23:42] <GreyVulpine> Yes
#2505 [23:43] <Chaos234> thanks
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