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#3 [00:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Grats, you got free minecraft.
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#6 [00:22] <Scott> More like his bank just isn't listing it yet.
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#8 [00:26] <Denizen> night.
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#11 [00:26] <ctingle18> hi
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#13 [00:27] <ctingle18> mollstam
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#19 [00:38] <TallNinja> I'm having issues allocating more memory to minecraft
#20 [00:39] <TallNinja> Is anyone willing to help me?
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#22 [00:41] <mandrews2004> i have just purchased but cant get it to work. How can i confirm the purchase went through?
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#44 [01:48] <CrusaderDeleters> http://pastebin.com/bbN8CBwN
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#46 [01:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I got this error in minecrafterrortest.bat, and it only happens with Wom, 1.3.2, 1.4 prerelease 2. All of them just stop without any errors.
#47 [01:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I got this error in minecrafterrortest.bat, and it only happens with Wom, 1.3.2, 1.4 prerelease 2. All of them just stop without any errors.
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#50 [01:57] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: We dont support WOM or any third party clients.
#51 [01:57] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#52 [01:57] <CrusaderDeleters> I said it also happens with 1.3
#53 [01:57] <Smanly> Using which client?
#54 [01:58] <CrusaderDeleters> Normal minecraft.exe off of minecraft.net/downloads
#55 [01:58] <Smanly> Hokay.
#56 [01:58] <Smanly> One sec.
#57 [01:59] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm been dealing with this problem since mid-day of yesterday.
#58 [02:00] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: So what happens? It will just stop mid-game?
#59 [02:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Yep. It stops without giving an error message.
#60 [02:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Then after I used minecraft.bat
#61 [02:00] <CrusaderDeleters> I got the error message posted above.
#62 [02:00] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: Just freezes or black screen?
#63 [02:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Neither. Closes out.
#64 [02:00] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: Oh..
#65 [02:01] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: What have you tried to fix it?
#66 [02:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Reinstalled Minecraft, Reinstalled Wom, Reinstalled Java, UPGRADED java
#67 [02:01] <CrusaderDeleters> Attempt to see what was wrong with any other pieces of my computer if possible
#68 [02:02] <DopeGhoti> CrusaderDeleters: what version of Java are you running?
#69 [02:02] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: Did you upgrade to a newer version of Java 6?
#70 [02:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes, 6_u24
#71 [02:02] <CrusaderDeleters> 34*
#72 [02:03] <Smanly> Try installing Java 7 intstead, maybe.
#73 [02:03] <Smanly> I have never seen this error.
#74 [02:03] <CrusaderDeleters> It's not j7. XD
#75 [02:03] <CrusaderDeleters> It's Java 6
#76 [02:03] <Smanly> I know
#77 [02:03] <Smanly> Get J7
#78 [02:03] <CrusaderDeleters> Hokay.
#79 [02:03] <Smanly> Also:
#80 [02:03] <Smanly> # An error report file with more information is saved as:
#81 [02:03] <Smanly> # C:\Users\CRUSAD~1\AppData\Local\Temp\\hs_err_pid664.log
#82 [02:03] <Smanly> Got that?
#83 [02:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright, Ill include an HS err pid's.
#84 [02:04] <Smanly> Could it be the
#85 [02:04] <Smanly> ... oops "~" in the account name?
#86 [02:05] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't have ~ in my account name.
#87 [02:05] <CrusaderDeleters> http://pastebin.com/Fq29TQpe
#88 [02:05] <Smanly> I have heard of stuff like that breaking MC
#89 [02:05] <CrusaderDeleters> My user account is CrusaderDeleters
#90 [02:05] <Smanly> wat C:\Users\CRUSAD~1
#91 [02:05] <CrusaderDeleters> That's a directory made by the Machine in order to create a seperate user folder system, hidden
#92 [02:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, the pastebin for the hserrpid is http://pastebin.com/Fq29TQpe
#93 [02:06] <Smanly> Yeah, got that, thanks.
#94 [02:06] <CrusaderDeleters> np
#95 [02:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Plus, this bug is hard to trigger
#96 [02:07] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: So... the account you are using in windows isnt CRUSAD~1?
#97 [02:07] <Smanly> Strange.
#98 [02:07] <CrusaderDeleters> sometimes it happens in 5 seconds, sometimes in 1 minute, and sometimes never.
#99 [02:07] <CrusaderDeleters> My user account is "CrusaderDeleters"
#100 [02:07] <Smanly> What happened right before the crash?
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#102 [02:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Nothing.
#103 [02:07] <CrusaderDeleters> It jsut stops.
#104 [02:07] <Smanly> Thats what they all say :D
#105 [02:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Sometimes it's in a map load, sometimes it's when I'm just typing
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#107 [02:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Sometimes it's Multiplayer, sometimes It's just Singleplayer
#108 [02:08] <Smanly> Hmm...
#109 [02:08] <CrusaderDeleters> The complexity of the problem makes it hard for me to understnad.
#110 [02:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I've asked a few people, which none of them replied. ._.
#111 [02:08] <CrusaderDeleters> I've also gotten into thinking it's a problem with my video card.
#112 [02:09] <Smanly> Perhaps you have a wrong version of Java.
#113 [02:09] <CrusaderDeleters> You should see one of the images.
#114 [02:09] <CrusaderDeleters> And skyrim seemed to be suffering from graphics error too.
#115 [02:09] <Smanly> Oh.
#116 [02:09] <Smanly> You have a descret one, right?
#117 [02:09] <CrusaderDeleters> A log was the color of purple, and a courier's armor was static with color.
#118 [02:09] <CrusaderDeleters> 560
#119 [02:09] <CrusaderDeleters> Nvidia
#120 [02:10] <Smanly> Try using the onboard one.
#121 [02:10] <CrusaderDeleters> :s
#122 [02:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Can't play minecraft with that.
#123 [02:10] <CrusaderDeleters> or skyrim.
#124 [02:10] <Smanly> You dont know that!
#125 [02:10] <Smanly> You have a DXDiag?
#126 [02:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Actually, I do. :) I tried it before. There's no drivers to let minecraft accelerate the pixels.
#127 [02:10] <CrusaderDeleters> One moment on the dxdiag.
#128 [02:11] <CrusaderDeleters> http://pastebin.com/G3rtbEgY
#129 [02:12] <Smanly> Shouldn't the onboard GPU be on that? O.o
#130 [02:13] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't use onboard GPU's due to their lack of a proper Driver
#131 [02:13] <Smanly> Yeah, but still.
#132 [02:13] <Smanly> Hmm
#133 [02:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Plus, minecraft doesn't run without most drivers.
#134 [02:14] <Smanly> Well, you could try this. uninstall any java you have then install this:
#135 [02:14] <Smanly> ??> CrusaderDeleters win/64bitjava
#136 [02:14] <Smanly> wat...
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#138 [02:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Don't worry, I know how to browse oracle.com. :)
#139 [02:15] <Smanly> yeah but:
#140 [02:15] <Smanly> win/64bitjava: I f[bleep]cking hate Oracle's web site. Get Win64 java here: http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/6u30-b12/jre-6u30-windows-x64.exe
#141 [02:15] <Smanly> Lol^
#142 [02:16] <CrusaderDeleters> It's like: "Let's go through 1000 links for popular downloads!"
#143 [02:16] <Smanly> YEAH!
#144 [02:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Wait
#145 [02:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Why dat be Java 6 update 30?
#146 [02:17] <Smanly> Idk
#147 [02:17] <Smanly> do it matter? just try it
#148 [02:18] <Smanly> Its probably outdated though.
#149 [02:18] <CrusaderDeleters> It is. :P
#150 [02:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Also
#151 [02:18] <CrusaderDeleters> I cannot. :( The terms of service no worky.
#152 [02:18] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll try j7 just cuz I already uninstalled everything.
#153 [02:18] <Smanly> Is this right? "Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM" server?
#154 [02:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm not entirely sure.
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#156 [02:19] <Smanly> Also, says its useing the JRE not JDK. I dont remamber which is which.
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#158 [02:20] <CrusaderDeleters> JDK is for coding.
#159 [02:20] <CrusaderDeleters> JRE is to use the java programs
#160 [02:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Remember: Java RUNtime Environment, and Java DEVELOPEMENT kit
#161 [02:20] <Smanly> Herp de derp. Java Development Kit.
#162 [02:20] <Smanly> I couldn't think of the Runtime part
#163 [02:20] <CrusaderDeleters> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ-QLl5qjLg&feature=related
#164 [02:20] <Smanly> lolwut
#165 [02:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Archangel from Two Steps to Hell
#166 [02:21] <CrusaderDeleters> This is how I feel
#167 [02:21] <Smanly> my hamster listened to this. now its a bear.
#168 [02:21] <Smanly> shadowbiker23 1 day ago 119
#169 [02:21] <CrusaderDeleters> In an epic fight against the state of health against my computer to bring it back to good order.
#170 [02:21] <CrusaderDeleters> LOL
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#173 [02:23] <Smanly> lul
#174 [02:23] <Smanly> dat name
#175 [02:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Let's hope that minecraft crashes immediately if it could.
#176 [02:24] <Smanly> Yeah!
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#179 [02:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Crashed yet again. :c
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#181 [02:33] <Smanly> Oh.
#182 [02:34] <CrusaderDeleters> It might be a problem with Java
#183 [02:34] <Smanly> Yeah... idk.
#184 [02:34] <CrusaderDeleters> Well, thanks for helping.
#185 [02:34] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm hoping a friend will be online tomarrow
#186 [02:34] <CrusaderDeleters> I've been wanting to get HIM online all day today.
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#188 [02:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Good night
#189 [02:36] <Smanly> You could try this!
#190 [02:36] <Smanly> ?? win/javara
#191 [02:36] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#192 [02:36] <VoxelHead> win/javara: JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#193 [02:36] <Smanly> But, your java isnt failing to install.
#194 [02:36] <CrusaderDeleters> But my java installations aren't broken
#195 [02:37] <Smanly> :D
#196 [02:37] <tyteen4a03> I would like to clarify that JDK includes JRE and a bunch of other stuff for development purposes
#197 [02:37] <Smanly> Well, yeah.
#198 [02:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Late, tyteen. :P
#199 [02:37] <tyteen4a03> JDK is for development, yes, but it doesn't mean you can't use it to run java programs
#200 [02:37] <tyteen4a03> oh hi CrusaderDeleters
#201 [02:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Ohaider
#202 [02:37] <CrusaderDeleters> Got another god error
#203 [02:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Again, noone can fix it.
#204 [02:38] <tyteen4a03> CrusaderDeleters: the pastebin you pasted a while ago sounds like your driver
#205 [02:38] <CrusaderDeleters> I was guessing it could have been.
#206 [02:38] <CrusaderDeleters> But I updated the driver
#207 [02:38] <CrusaderDeleters> uninstalled and reinstalled the driver, nada.: (
#208 [02:38] <DopeGhoti> CrusaderDeleters: try this:
#209 [02:38] <tyteen4a03> CrusaderDeleters: is it an onboard LAN driver?
#210 [02:38] <DopeGhoti> ??> CrusaderDeleters win/profile
#211 [02:38] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (win/profile) It may be helpful to isolate whether this is a problem with your user account, or with your system as a whole.
#212 [02:38] <VoxelHead> CrusaderDeleters: (win/profile) Please create a new user profile (a computer user, not a new Minecraft account), log in as that user, and try Minecraft from there. If it works, there's something on your profile that's breaking Java or Minecraft. If not, there's something amiss with your system as a whole.
#213 [02:39] <tyteen4a03> oh hi DopeGhoti
#214 [02:39] <DopeGhoti> morning
#215 [02:39] <DopeGhoti> Merry weekend, kids
#216 [02:39] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#217 [02:39] <CrusaderDeleters> New Computer account.
#218 [02:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Br right back
#219 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> CrusaderDeleters: you'd be surprised how often trying a pristine new profile isolates the problem to some try utility or something that's just running in the background, breakoing things.
#220 [02:40] <DopeGhoti> er, breaking
#221 [02:40] <CrusaderDeleters> Testing with my motherboard's monitor outlet
#222 [02:41] <tyteen4a03> DopeGhoti: you have work on weekend?
#223 [02:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Well
#224 [02:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Couldn't get signal from the motherboard
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#230 [02:55] <Deleters> Hello
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#233 [02:56] <tyteen4a03> hi again CrusaderDeleters
#234 [02:56] <tyteen4a03> how did the test drive go
#235 [02:56] <CrusaderDeleters> I didn't try
#236 [02:56] <CrusaderDeleters> The internet cut off, and I was about to tell some people that I will be going on a test account
#237 [02:56] <CrusaderDeleters> so.... brb
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#241 [03:09] <Smanly> wb
#242 [03:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Wellhai.
#243 [03:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Turns out, happens on any account.
#244 [03:10] <Smanly> :/
#245 [03:10] <CrusaderDeleters> Opened minecraft for the first time, time to create a new world, then bam, crashed.
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#248 [03:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Wow. I had ~707 words per minute. I know how I got that.
#249 [03:13] <Smanly> Wat
#250 [03:13] <CrusaderDeleters> It allowed me to use copy and paste as "typing"
#251 [03:14] <Smanly> What did?
#252 [03:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Nothing. :)
#253 [03:14] <tyteen4a03> CrusaderDeleters: the download error?
#254 [03:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Just thinking out loud.
#255 [03:14] <Smanly> tyteen4a03: wat
#256 [03:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Download error? Lolwut?
#257 [03:15] <tyteen4a03> the pastebin you posted earlier?
#258 [03:15] <Smanly> ...um wat download error?
#259 [03:15] <CrusaderDeleters> There was no download error in a paste bin.
#260 [03:15] <tyteen4a03> http://pastebin.com/bbN8CBwN
#261 [03:16] <CrusaderDeleters> No, I'm pretty sure it's not downloading anything.
#262 [03:16] <CrusaderDeleters> XD
#263 [03:16] <Smanly> Wait, this? "Exception in thread "Resource download thread""
#264 [03:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah, It's not trying to download stuff though.
#265 [03:17] <tyteen4a03> CrusaderDeleters: you're on vanilla Minecraft 1.3?
#266 [03:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes.
#267 [03:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Fresh install
#268 [03:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Also
#269 [03:18] <CrusaderDeleters> It would be cool to say I had two BSoDs.
#270 [03:18] <tyteen4a03> hmm
#271 [03:18] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: It must be the GPU
#272 [03:18] <tyteen4a03> could be that the local server is trying to auth with minecraft.net
#273 [03:18] <CrusaderDeleters> There is no server.
#274 [03:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Normal 1.3.
#275 [03:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Offline
#276 [03:19] <tyteen4a03> CrusaderDeleters: Offline mode?
#277 [03:19] <Smanly> tyteen4a03: -_-
#278 [03:19] <Smanly> There is no server.
#279 [03:19] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm going singleplayer
#280 [03:19] <tyteen4a03> you guys do know 1.3 spawns a local server for singleplayer, right?
#281 [03:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes.
#282 [03:19] <Smanly> Yeah... but.
#283 [03:19] <tyteen4a03> then there is a server
#284 [03:20] <CrusaderDeleters> It doesn't download stuff though. :I
#285 [03:20] <tyteen4a03> CrusaderDeleters: could be auth with minecraft.net
#286 [03:20] <Smanly> But... he is playing offline.
#287 [03:20] <tyteen4a03> not sure how that is necessary but it looks like it is
#288 [03:20] <CrusaderDeleters> No, not offline
#289 [03:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright
#290 [03:20] <Smanly> wat.
#291 [03:20] <CrusaderDeleters> I go through the auth process correctly
#292 [03:20] <CrusaderDeleters> and I can get into my worlds
#293 [03:20] <Smanly> <CrusaderDeleters> Normal 1.3.
#294 [03:20] <Smanly> <CrusaderDeleters> Offline
#295 [03:20] <CrusaderDeleters> and thats where it would crash
#296 [03:20] <CrusaderDeleters> By offline, I mean on no servers. XD
#297 [03:21] <Smanly> Either way, that wouldnt crash his client.
#298 [03:21] <CrusaderDeleters> It could, depending on what packet wasn't being transferred.
#299 [03:21] <tyteen4a03> Smanly: it shouldn't crash with a socket NoSuchMethod erorr
#300 [03:21] <Smanly> ~0~
#301 [03:22] <CrusaderDeleters> My problem is, my GPU is a little more than a month old.
#302 [03:22] <Smanly> RMA it.
#303 [03:22] <CrusaderDeleters> I wish I could get a refund, and I wish I bought that 12$ 1 year warranty. :P
#304 [03:22] <CrusaderDeleters> :L*
#305 [03:22] <CrusaderDeleters> RMA?
#306 [03:22] <tyteen4a03> It shouldn't be a GPU problem
#307 [03:23] <Smanly> Well, he is having GPU issues.
#308 [03:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Lets look at it this way. Purple logs in skyrim
#309 [03:23] <tyteen4a03> Smanly: is there 2 separate errors?
#310 [03:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Colored Static image for a vest
#311 [03:23] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll upload a screenie of what I saw on minecraft.
#312 [03:23] <Smanly> tyteen4a03: Not really. Not that I know of.
#313 [03:24] <tyteen4a03> then I'm not sure what GPU err you are talking about
#314 [03:24] <CrusaderDeleters> http://imgur.com/fYfz6
#315 [03:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Look at this, tyteen4a03
#316 [03:24] <Smanly> YER GUD
#317 [03:25] <Smanly> Fancy mod you have there. XD
#318 [03:25] <tyteen4a03> CrusaderDeleters: Minecraft... on drugs?
#319 [03:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#320 [03:26] <CrusaderDeleters> I will try to screencap the skyrim problems too
#321 [03:28] <CrusaderDeleters> So anyone knows the problem
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#323 [03:29] <Smanly> Was that a question?
#324 [03:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah
#325 [03:30] <Smanly> Either you GPU is borked, or you are using bad drivers.
#326 [03:31] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm hoping it's just the drivers.
#327 [03:32] <CrusaderDeleters> But it seems to have done this after I took screenies and ran FIVE minecrafts at the same time just to see how well my computer can cope with it.
#328 [03:33] <Smanly> Oh lol. perhaps you fried the GPU? :3
#329 [03:33] <CrusaderDeleters> Nope
#330 [03:33] <CrusaderDeleters> I would know if I fried my GPU
#331 [03:34] <CrusaderDeleters> I've seen a GPU fry on Minecraft before. I remember it as if it was yesterday. It was a 8800. Not bad of a card.
#332 [03:34] <Smanly> Well, I doubt your on board couldnt run MC.
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#334 [03:34] <Smanly> I think you are just doing it wrong.
#335 [03:35] <CrusaderDeleters> Doing what wrong? :o
#336 [03:35] <Smanly> You tell me, lol.
#337 [03:35] <Smanly> Can you not find drivers that work properly?
#338 [03:35] <Oliverthepen> Hi, I am on a Mac. When I start up Minecraft, everything starts off fine. But it gets stuck on the Mojang Splash Screen. Help! I run Snow Leopard.
#339 [03:36] <CrusaderDeleters> It's a mac. I'm out.
#340 [03:36] <Smanly> Yeah, idk about dem.
#341 [03:36] <Smanly> Oliverthepen: How much ram you got?
#342 [03:36] <CrusaderDeleters> Smanly, could you clarigy what "it" is?
#343 [03:36] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: You siad you can run MC using just the onboard GPU, right?
#344 [03:37] <CrusaderDeleters> I couldn't find out.
#345 [03:37] <Smanly> y nat?
#346 [03:37] <CrusaderDeleters> I got no signal from the on-board g-card
#347 [03:37] <Smanly> wat...
#348 [03:37] <CrusaderDeleters> g-unit&*
#349 [03:37] <CrusaderDeleters> My monitor no light up
#350 [03:37] <Oliverthepen> I don't really know. By the way, I've been using Minecraft since 1.8.1, so it has worked before. It is just this version. It works if I put it back to 1.2.5.
#351 [03:38] <Smanly> Oliverthepen: Find out? I dont know much about Macs.
#352 [03:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Oliver, what exactly happens?
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#354 [03:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Lots of detail helps us out.
#355 [03:39] <Oliverthepen> Well, it starts up. And then goes onto the splash screen. And then gets stuck there. It just stays the same until I quit.
#356 [03:40] <CrusaderDeleters> As in, it freezes?
#357 [03:40] <Oliverthepen> Pretty much, but it doesn't effect other applications.
#358 [03:40] <Smanly> Only thing I can think of is try this:
#359 [03:40] <Smanly> ??> Oliverthepen mac/reinst
#360 [03:40] <VoxelHead> Oliverthepen: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#361 [03:40] <VoxelHead> Oliverthepen: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#362 [03:40] <Oliverthepen> I'm running it in the backround now.
#363 [03:40] <Smanly> While its stuck?
#364 [03:40] <CrusaderDeleters> WEll, smanly, I must log off now.
#365 [03:40] <Smanly> CrusaderDeleters: o/
#366 [03:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Wish me luck.
#367 [03:41] <CrusaderDeleters> \o
#368 [03:41] <Smanly> damn, I shoul get going too.
#369 [03:41] <Smanly> good luck, I have a large Community build tomorrow morning.
#370 [03:41] <CrusaderDeleters> 4:40 in the morn?
#371 [03:41] <Smanly> 2:40
#372 [03:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Nice, good luck with that.
#373 [03:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh, Rockies?
#374 [03:41] <Smanly> :D
#375 [03:41] <Smanly> No
#376 [03:41] <Smanly> Central
#377 [03:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Ahh
#378 [03:41] <Smanly> wat
#379 [03:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Wellbia
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#381 [03:42] <Oliverthepen> I just went to Minecraft in Application Support. There is no Resources! I know what I'm doing with the bin and all that, I do mod my Minecraft a lot. Before you tell me, I am using a completly fresh Minecraft.
#382 [03:43] <Smanly> Like I say, I dont know about macs.
#383 [03:43] <tyteen4a03> ??> Oliverthepen mac/.minecraft/lion
#384 [03:43] <VoxelHead> Oliverthepen: (mac/.minecraft/lion) Run this command in Terminal: chflags nohidden ~/Library
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#386 [03:45] <Oliverthepen> Done. I'm not sure what it did though.
#387 [03:45] <tyteen4a03> Oliverthepen: find Minecraft in Application support again
#388 [03:45] <Oliverthepen> OK, now what
#389 [03:45] <tyteen4a03> ??> Oliverthepen mac/reinst
#390 [03:45] <VoxelHead> Oliverthepen: (mac/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#391 [03:45] <VoxelHead> Oliverthepen: (mac/reinst) To do so, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support, and then minecraft. Drag the bin and resources folders to the trash, then try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#392 [03:47] <Oliverthepen> Still confused. I'm not a Terminal master you know!
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#395 [03:48] <Scott> oh ffs
#396 [03:48] <Smanly> ya
#397 [03:49] <Scott> Oliverthepen: Open Finder
#398 [03:49] <Scott> the file manager
#399 [03:49] <Scott> the file manager
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#401 [03:49] <Scott> far left on your dock
#402 [03:49] <Oliverthepen> I know where it is.
#403 [03:49] <Scott> Press command + shift + g and paste; ~/Library/Application Support/minecraft/ in the popu
#404 [03:49] <Scott> p
#405 [03:50] <Oliverthepen> I'm in Minecraft folder already
#406 [03:50] <Scott> Then drag bin and resources to the trash icon
#407 [03:50] <Scott> far right on your dock
#408 [03:50] <Oliverthepen> There isn't any resources!
#409 [03:50] <Scott> drag the folder anyways
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#411 [03:50] <Oliverthepen> As in, there is no Resources folder.
#412 [03:51] <Scott> okay
#413 [03:51] <Scott> now open Minecraft
#414 [03:51] <Oliverthepen> Ok.
#415 [03:52] <Oliverthepen> Downloadin'
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#417 [03:52] <Oliverthepen> Or Updatin' if you will.
#418 [03:52] <Smanly> bof
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#427 [04:25] <borgvey> does anybody knows the solution for the problems between minecraft and paypal? been trying to buy it for a week now but it still wont work
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#430 [04:34] <MaT5892> anyone know about lost connection: disconnect.overflow for servers? Any advice welcome
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#435 [04:42] <tyteen4a03> MaT5892: How often does this happen?
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#439 [04:48] <Fliver99> are there someone who can help me :)
#440 [04:50] <MaT5892> sorry was doing some more searching, it doesn't happen to me. Only key people on the server. It seems to happen around jungle areas and areas with lots of water
#441 [04:55] <tyteen4a03> MaT5892: sounds like not enough resource on server
#442 [04:57] <MaT5892> I thought that too, but only some disconnect while others are fine.
#443 [04:58] <tyteen4a03> MaT5892: it could be that the server is trying to generate a new area
#444 [04:59] <MaT5892> The 2/4 tests, people dc in the center of a fully loaded jungle
#445 [05:00] <tyteen4a03> MaT5892: wait, so the client is disconnecting?
#446 [05:00] <MaT5892> yes, the instant the are in that location they disconnect
#447 [05:01] <tyteen4a03> MaT5892: can you give me the server specs?
#448 [05:01] <tyteen4a03> MaT5892: can you give me the server specs?
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#450 [05:04] <MaT5892> Intel core i7-2600 cpu @ 3.40 Ghz (8) 12 GB RAM Win 7
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#453 [05:08] <Jay> hello
#454 [05:08] <Jay> anyone there? i need help :/
#455 [05:08] * Jay is now known as :Guest71991
#456 [05:08] <Guest71991> um wait wat?
#457 [05:09] <Andrio> Guest71991, someone's already registered that name.
#458 [05:09] <Andrio> also, hi.
#459 [05:09] <Guest71991> ohh
#460 [05:09] <Guest71991> btw cn yu help me with my minecraft?
#461 [05:09] <Andrio> Possibly.
#462 [05:09] <Andrio> What problem are you having?
#463 [05:10] <Guest71991> well i tried isntalling 1.3.1 mods on my 1.3.2 by accident and i gt a black screen , so i deleted my whole .minecraft and i redownloaded the launcher
#464 [05:10] <Guest71991> but for some reaosn now were the update info is usually up its a gray screen
#465 [05:10] <Guest71991> and wen i lcik login
#466 [05:10] <Guest71991> it says Cant connect to minecraft.net and
#467 [05:11] <Guest71991> the play offloine option is not available because under it it says ( not downloaded )_
#468 [05:11] <MaT5892> try clicking options before you log in and click force updata
#469 [05:11] <MaT5892> *update
#470 [05:11] <Guest71991> i tried tat
#471 [05:11] <Guest71991> but it keeps saying cant connect to minecraft.net
#472 [05:12] <Guest71991> do yu know how to possibly fix it?
#473 [05:13] <tikker> Guest71991 have you tried logging in on the website an playing there?
#474 [05:13] <tikker> *and
#475 [05:13] <Guest71991> wat do yu mean playing there?
#476 [05:13] <Guest71991> i set my thing to always be signed in on the website
#477 [05:13] <tikker> minecraft.net > play in browser
#478 [05:13] <Guest71991> nah i never tried playing in browser
#479 [05:13] <tikker> try it now :)
#480 [05:13] <tikker> see if it works, if it does try the launcher again
#481 [05:14] <Guest71991> wat if it doesnt fix my lanucher :o
#482 [05:14] <Guest71991> kk brb :DDD
#483 [05:16] <Guest71991> well playing in the browser
#484 [05:16] <Guest71991> worked
#485 [05:16] <Guest71991> wat nwo?
#486 [05:17] <Guest71991> now*
#487 [05:18] <tikker> try the launcher again
#488 [05:18] <Guest71991> mm k
#489 [05:20] <Guest71991> okay well um
#490 [05:20] <Guest71991> the gray screen is still there , BUT wen i click login it still says can login to minecraft.net but the play offline ooption is now usable
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#492 [05:20] <tikker> are you sure you are using the correct log in information in the launcher?
#493 [05:21] <Guest71991> yeah im using the same password
#494 [05:21] <Guest71991> leme try changin it
#495 [05:22] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Username please?
#496 [05:22] <tikker> is it possible a firewall or antivirus is blocking the launcher?
#497 [05:22] <Guest71991> um no i dont think so because
#498 [05:22] <Guest71991> ive played before
#499 [05:22] <Guest71991> alot
#500 [05:23] <tikker> what antivir do you have?
#501 [05:23] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Username please?
#502 [05:24] <Guest71991> um well i think my antivirus just expired :D
#503 [05:24] <tikker> tyteen4a03 what do you need his username for... he has paid
#504 [05:24] <Guest71991> :D
#505 [05:24] <tyteen4a03> tikker: I need to verify that
#506 [05:25] <tikker> well ok..
#507 [05:25] <tikker> but
#508 [05:25] <tikker> nvm
#509 [05:25] <tikker> Guest98487 what is your username
#510 [05:26] <tyteen4a03> MaT5892: is that a rented server? because you shouldn't be getting that error
#511 [05:26] <MaT5892> No, I'm hosting it myself.
#512 [05:26] <tikker> well i have to leave
#513 [05:26] <tikker> well i have to leave
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#515 [05:27] <tyteen4a03> MaT5892: 64bit?
#516 [05:27] <MaT5892> Yes, 64 bit running the 64 bit version of java
#517 [05:27] <Guest71991> mine
#518 [05:27] <Guest71991> huh
#519 [05:27] <Guest71991> is
#520 [05:27] <Guest71991> JayStar278
#521 [05:28] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Disable any antiviruses and firewalls you have
#522 [05:29] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Have you ever used a pirated version of Minecraft?
#523 [05:29] <Guest71991> ummm
#524 [05:29] <Guest71991> i think?
#525 [05:29] <Guest71991> ive oplayed mc for a logn time
#526 [05:29] <Guest71991> played*
#527 [05:30] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: A pirated version of Minecraft means an illegal version of Minecraft obtained outside Minecraft.net
#528 [05:30] <Guest71991> well i used to play it at my friends house , idk wat version he had and tats were i made JayStar278 from
#529 [05:31] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest71991 win/hosts
#530 [05:31] <VoxelHead> Guest71991: (win/hosts) You may have a problem with your hosts file, which overrides DNS queries. Please follow the following directions:
#531 [05:31] <VoxelHead> Guest71991: (win/hosts) Hold down the Windows key, and press R. In the window that appears, enter "%SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc", and press Enter. In the window that appears you will see a file, "hosts". Open that file in Notepad, and copy the contents onto Pastebin, and give us the resulting URL.
#532 [05:32] <Guest71991> um okay
#533 [05:32] <Guest71991> ill try tat right now xD
#534 [05:33] <Guest71991> i see hosts but idk how to open it with notepad
#535 [05:35] <Guest71991> hello?
#536 [05:36] <Guest71991> i gt this
#537 [05:36] <Guest71991> # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
#538 [05:36] <Guest71991> theres more that i copied
#539 [05:36] <Guest71991> but it wont put it down?
#540 [05:37] <Andrio> Use pastebin.com
#541 [05:38] <Andrio> ??> Guest71991 pastebin
#542 [05:38] <VoxelHead> Guest71991: (pastebin) Pastebin is a service run at http://www.pastebin.com/ which facilitates the sharing of information without flooding IRC channels. Paste your text there, click 'Submit', and give us the URL the site takes you to, and we can see what you have pasted.
#543 [05:39] <Guest71991> http://pastebin.com/iraSw3iR
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#545 [05:39] <Guest71991> now how df will thing fix my launcher :(
#546 [05:39] <Guest71991> all i wnna do is play again........
#547 [05:40] <Guest71991> ?
#548 [05:40] <Guest71991> so thats th eurl ig
#549 [05:40] <Guest71991> url*
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#551 [05:41] <kian> im searching for a good mod forum
#552 [05:41] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: pastebin.com
#553 [05:42] <Guest71991> i did put it in pastebin .com
#554 [05:42] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: nevermind
#555 [05:42] <Guest71991> http://pastebin.com/iraSw3iR
#556 [05:42] <Guest71991> this is the url
#557 [05:42] <kian> i know
#558 [05:42] <tyteen4a03> hmm, looks fine
#559 [05:42] <kian> but can you help me with mods?
#560 [05:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> kian mods
#561 [05:42] <VoxelHead> kian: (mods) This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#562 [05:42] <VoxelHead> kian: (mods) For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#563 [05:42] <tyteen4a03> also
#564 [05:42] <Guest71991> im good with mods
#565 [05:42] <tyteen4a03> ??> kian irc/multitasking
#566 [05:42] <VoxelHead> kian: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
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#568 [05:42] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: What java version are you using?
#569 [05:42] <kian> heres the pastebin link
#570 [05:43] <kian> http://pastebin.com/8drUJ2qH
#571 [05:43] <Guest71991> ty how cn i fix my launcher?
#572 [05:43] <Guest71991> um using
#573 [05:43] <Necrodoom> kian: error with modloader
#574 [05:43] <Guest71991> um
#575 [05:43] <Necrodoom> kian: ask on correct channel
#576 [05:43] <Guest71991> 64 bit java?
#577 [05:43] <kian> i think
#578 [05:43] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: hang on
#579 [05:43] <tyteen4a03> ??< index
#580 [05:43] <kian> whats up?
#581 [05:44] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest98487 java/version
#582 [05:44] <VoxelHead> Guest98487: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#583 [05:44] <VoxelHead> Guest98487: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#584 [05:44] <kian> wait a sec.
#585 [05:44] <kian> version 7 update 6
#586 [05:45] <tyteen4a03> ??> kian irc/multitasking
#587 [05:45] <VoxelHead> kian: (irc/multitasking) In IRC, many people can be having multiple conversations at the same time. Don't presume that everything anyone says is meant for you. In most cases, when there are several things going on at once, people will prefix the addresse's nick to the message to clarify for whom it is intended.
#588 [05:45] <tyteen4a03> kian: Read this text carefully
#589 [05:45] <Guest71991> I hve Version 7
#590 [05:45] <Guest71991> updated 4?
#591 [05:45] <Guest71991> update*
#592 [05:46] <kian> i have version 7 update 6
#593 [05:46] <Guest71991> i hve version 7 update 4 :P
#594 [05:46] <kian> how can i fix this crash
#595 [05:46] <Guest71991> kian yu prob isnatlled the wrong version of the mod
#596 [05:46] <kian> of what mod?
#597 [05:46] <Guest71991> im nt sure , i didn tlook at yur paste bin thingy
#598 [05:47] <kian> http://pastebin.com/8drUJ2qH
#599 [05:47] <Guest71991> yu prob installed a mod that isnt comaptibla to yur mc
#600 [05:47] <kian> thats the same thing
#601 [05:47] <Guest71991> meaning yu prob installed a 1.3.1 mod wen yur mc is 1.3.2
#602 [05:47] <kian> thanks i will look!
#603 [05:47] <Guest71991> kian
#604 [05:48] <kian> yes
#605 [05:48] <Guest71991> i see tat all yur mods are 1.3.2 ,
#606 [05:48] <kian> maybe hidden doors isnt
#607 [05:48] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Uninstall Java 7 and install Java 6
#608 [05:48] <Guest71991> hidden doors?
#609 [05:48] <kian> i did it with magiclauncher
#610 [05:48] <Guest71991> how do i unistall?
#611 [05:48] <tyteen4a03> kian: You also installed ModLoader wrongly
#612 [05:48] <kian> oh
#613 [05:48] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Go to Add/Remove Programs, uninstall everything related to java
#614 [05:49] <kian> whats related to java
#615 [05:49] <Guest71991> hwo do i go there xDDDDDDDDDD
#616 [05:49] <kian> what mods
#617 [05:49] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Open your Control Panel, find Add/Remove programs from the search box
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#619 [05:50] <Guest71991> um idk wat my control panel is xD
#620 [05:50] <Guest71991> srry im nt all techy or w.e
#621 [05:51] <tyteen4a03> ??< win/javara
#622 [05:51] <tyteen4a03> ??> Guest71991 win/javara
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#624 [05:51] <VoxelHead> Guest71991: (win/javara) JavaRa is a tool for removing broken Java installations. If your java installation is failing with errors, running JavaRa might clear them up.
#625 [05:51] <VoxelHead> Guest71991: (win/javara) JavaRa's info is at http://singularlabs.com/software/javara/
#626 [05:51] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Download this program, run it, and click "Remove Older Versions"
#627 [05:52] <Guest71991> okay so i download it form that url?
#628 [05:52] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Yes
#629 [05:52] * Contex|Away is now known as :Contex
#630 [05:53] <Guest71991> okay so i clicked downlaod , and it said open or save
#631 [05:53] <Guest71991> which one?
#632 [05:53] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Open
#633 [05:53] <Guest71991> it has some wierd stuff ? like diff languages and stuff
#634 [05:54] <Guest71991> javara and javara.def is in there too
#635 [05:54] <Guest71991> im nt sure wat to do here..
#636 [05:55] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: If you're confused, maybe you should have somebody else come here and fix this for you
#637 [05:55] <Guest71991> but wait i opend it now wat?
#638 [05:56] <tyteen4a03> Guest98487: Do you see javara.exe?
#639 [05:57] <Guest71991> i see a javara tats it
#640 [05:57] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: run it
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#642 [05:57] <Guest71991> okay
#643 [05:57] <Guest71991> now it says
#644 [05:58] <Guest71991> oh wiat should i clicl remove older versions?
#645 [05:58] <Guest71991> wait*
#646 [05:58] <Guest71991> click*
#647 [05:58] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991L Yes
#648 [05:59] <Guest71991> its telling me to close internet explorer
#649 [05:59] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Do it, then come back
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#651 [06:00] <Guest71991> well forget it -_- idk wtf to do and stuff and i dnt wnna do stuff to my laptop that mgiht mess it up or w.e ,
#652 [06:00] <AussieLiam> my account was migrated
#653 [06:00] <AussieLiam> can someone pc me
#654 [06:00] <Guest71991> thx for the help guys
#655 [06:00] <AussieLiam> pm*
#656 [06:00] <tyteen4a03> AussieLiam: what is the problem?
#657 [06:01] <AussieLiam> ty
#658 [06:01] <Guest71991> but im afraid i cnt fix my launcher :(
#659 [06:01] <AussieLiam> do you work for mojang?
#660 [06:01] <AussieLiam> My account was migrated, but I didn't
#661 [06:01] <AussieLiam> no one else has access to my account.
#662 [06:01] <AussieLiam> It wants me to use my email... but I can't remember which email I used.
#663 [06:01] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: If you're afraid of messing up your laptop, it's best to have somebody professional to fix it
#664 [06:01] <AussieLiam> When i try to access mc site, it says acc was migrated
#665 [06:01] <AussieLiam> so user and pass is right, i just dont know email
#666 [06:02] <Guest71991> idk anybody proffesional to fix it xD. but do yu hve any quik way to like fix the launcher?
#667 [06:02] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: No, all ways of fixing the launcher will require some advanced comprehension skills and time
#668 [06:02] <AussieLiam> What do i do D:
#669 [06:02] <Guest71991> ........... :(
#670 [06:02] <AussieLiam> tyteen
#671 [06:02] <tyteen4a03> AussieLiam: try minecraft.net/retrievename and check every email you have
#672 [06:02] <AussieLiam> how do i fix my login
#673 [06:02] <AussieLiam> i have
#674 [06:02] <AussieLiam> i made one
#675 [06:02] <AussieLiam> specifically for mc
#676 [06:02] <AussieLiam> cant remember it
#677 [06:03] <Guest71991> tyteen so i cn tplay mc anymore?
#678 [06:03] <AussieLiam> i kept trying what im 1000000% sure it is
#679 [06:03] <AussieLiam> isnt showin on gmail...
#680 [06:03] <AussieLiam> anywhere
#681 [06:03] <Guest71991> unless i get an illegal version ?
#682 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> AussieLiam: Spam folder?
#683 [06:03] <AussieLiam> checked
#684 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> Guest71991: Probably not
#685 [06:03] <AussieLiam> the email i believe
#686 [06:03] <AussieLiam> isnt even in use at google
#687 [06:03] <AussieLiam> i know it was @gmail.com
#688 [06:03] <Guest71991> fk me -_-
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#690 [06:03] <tyteen4a03> AussieLiam: if you have the transaction record, you can email mojang at help.mojang.com
#691 [06:03] <AussieLiam> I don't
#692 [06:04] <AussieLiam> My Dad got it for me
#693 [06:04] <AussieLiam> and I don't talk to him anymore.
#694 [06:04] <AussieLiam> Can't access his PayPal either.
#695 [06:04] <AussieLiam> if they said
#696 [06:04] <AussieLiam> give us your username you have used to login for the past 6 MONTHS
#697 [06:04] <AussieLiam> and pass
#698 [06:04] <AussieLiam> i could show them I am the real owner.
#699 [06:04] <TheBadNoodle> But they won't.
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#701 [06:05] <AussieLiam> So I have to pay another $20
#702 [06:05] <AussieLiam> What the fuck
#703 [06:05] * AuBot kicked AussieLiam from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ussieLiam :Please keep it civil.)
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#705 [06:05] <AussieLiam> what do i do..
#706 [06:05] <TheBadNoodle> Watch your language.
#707 [06:05] <AussieLiam> whatever mate.
#708 [06:05] <AussieLiam> I just wanna know..
#709 [06:05] <AussieLiam> Im annoyed.
#710 [06:06] <TheBadNoodle> Well, the kick is automatic, so you can ignore me if you want and keep swearing.
#711 [06:06] <AussieLiam> lol
#712 [06:06] <AussieLiam> I know :)
#713 [06:06] <AussieLiam> what are you, 4?
#714 [06:06] <Kingrunes> Should be an auto ban after 3 kicks I think.
#715 [06:06] <tyteen4a03> AussieLiam: the only way would be to get in touch with your father and get the transcation ID from him
#716 [06:06] <TheBadNoodle> And no, you don't have to pay another $20.
#717 [06:06] <TheBadNoodle> It's ~$27 now.
#718 [06:06] <AussieLiam> I didn't even migrate my acc
#719 [06:06] <AussieLiam> ok
#720 [06:06] <AussieLiam> this is offtopic
#721 [06:06] <AussieLiam> but user and pass
#722 [06:06] <AussieLiam> wer eon my iphone
#723 [06:07] <AussieLiam> could i find a backup of my notes
#724 [06:07] <AussieLiam> ?
#725 [06:07] <Kingrunes> in-game skins are fine on my server...
#726 [06:08] <tyteen4a03> Kingrunes: Skins is still broken I believe
#727 [06:08] <AussieLiam> I love my girlfriend (:
#728 [06:08] <AussieLiam> stop worrying babe, nothing is wrong between us, sometimes i just need some time for me, i love you
#729 [06:08] <tyteen4a03> AussieLiam: Probably not, if you don't have autobackup turned on
#730 [06:09] <AussieLiam> she sahh coot :3
#731 [06:09] <AussieLiam> umm
#732 [06:09] <AussieLiam> i did man
#733 [06:09] <AussieLiam> i just dunno how to acces it
#734 [06:09] <AussieLiam> access*
#735 [06:09] <tyteen4a03> I don't even use apple products, can't help you with this one
#736 [06:09] <AussieLiam> Either
#737 [06:09] <AussieLiam> have a HTC One x now
#738 [06:09] <AussieLiam> best buy ever.
#739 [06:09] <AussieLiam> top quality.
#740 [06:09] <Boreeas> AussieLiam: Keep it ontopic please. We don't care about your girlfriend and your phones
#741 [06:10] <AussieLiam> Whatever mate
#742 [06:10] <AussieLiam> well she ain't my girlfriend
#743 [06:10] <AussieLiam> we will date soon tho
#744 [06:10] <TheBadNoodle> see what I mean?
#745 [06:10] <Kingrunes> That is offtopic
#746 [06:11] <TheBadNoodle> one sec, will have to do it the old fasioned way
#747 [06:11] <Kingrunes> I can see whats coming next
#748 [06:11] <Kingrunes> I think.
#749 [06:11] <AussieLiam> guys
#750 [06:11] <TheBadNoodle> haha
#751 [06:11] <AussieLiam> how do i do it
#752 [06:11] <Kingrunes> TheBadNoodle, are you an IRC OPER?
#753 [06:12] <tyteen4a03> Kingrunes: None of us are, except xales
#754 [06:12] <TheBadNoodle> I am not, I just act like a cocky twat everywhere so people seem to think I am
#755 [06:12] <Boreeas> Kingrunes: /whois tells you if they are
#756 [06:12] <Kingrunes> He may not have /OPER'd
#757 [06:12] <Boreeas> I guess, but most opers do :P
#758 [06:12] <TheBadNoodle> tyteen4a03, there are other opers in the channel
#759 [06:13] <Kingrunes> Actually, I need to check if I implemented that /whois part into my IRCd
#760 [06:13] <tyteen4a03> TheBadNoodle: I just looked for mr_flea so
#761 [06:13] <Kingrunes> I REALLY dont like *ales
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#763 [06:14] <Kingrunes> Shame he's an OPER, but meh.
#764 [06:14] <tyteen4a03> Kingrunes: you don't love whales? D:
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#766 [06:14] <Kanza> Hey, i'm having trouble with my minecraft as of today.
#767 [06:14] <Kingrunes> He was a bit of a ***** in #minecraft
#768 [06:14] <Boreeas> Kanza: What error do you get?
#769 [06:15] <Kanza> Could someone help me?
#770 [06:15] <TheBadNoodle> :3
#771 [06:15] <Kanza> Well, i'm not getting an error, but i usually host a bukkit server- And as of today, my friends are complaining about the terrain not generating and massive lag when chatting.
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#773 [06:15] <tyteen4a03> ??> Kanza ask
#774 [06:15] <VoxelHead> Kanza: (ask) Don't ask to ask or just say "I need help" - just ask your question or state what you need help with, and be as specific as possible.
#775 [06:15] <VoxelHead> Kanza: (ask) If you are unsure if the question is appropriate, just ask it and you will be informed if it is not.
#776 [06:16] <Boreeas> Kanza: How much RAM have you allocated to the server?
#777 [06:17] <Boreeas> How large is the world, and how many players are usually online?
#778 [06:17] <Boreeas> What CPU are you using?
#779 [06:17] <Kanza> There are usually 2 two 3 players online..
#780 [06:17] <Kanza> My world isn't very large..
#781 [06:17] <Kanza> And i have half of my computer's RAM allocated, which is more than enough.
#782 [06:18] <Boreeas> Have you tried to move the current world to a backup folder and generate a new one?
#783 [06:18] <Kanza> Yes. I've even switched to a vanilla minecraft server, but the problems continued.
#784 [06:19] <Boreeas> Do you have any problems yourself, or is it just your friends that are experiencing the problems?
#785 [06:19] <Kanza> I'm not having any problems myself.
#786 [06:20] <Boreeas> Do you get error messages in the console?
#787 [06:20] <Kanza> No, none at all.
#788 [06:20] <Kingrunes> Kanza, how much RAM is that?
#789 [06:21] <Kingrunes> Also, check your network
#790 [06:21] <Kanza> Oh, furthermore, my friends get disconnected frequently
#791 [06:21] <Kanza> As of today, too
#792 [06:21] <Kingrunes> I had some issues (I blamed on the Olympics) but its much better now.
#793 [06:21] <Kanza> It's 6 gigs of ram, Kingrunes
#794 [06:21] <Kanza> My network is fine too, i checked it immediately, haha.
#795 [06:21] <Kingrunes> Ah.
#796 [06:22] <Kingrunes> check CPU usage.
#797 [06:22] <Kanza> CPU usage while running the server? Okay, gimme a second.
#798 [06:23] <Kingrunes> Also, do you have Essentials
#799 [06:23] <Kanza> The essentials plugin? No, i don't use that one.
#800 [06:23] <Kingrunes> shame
#801 [06:23] <Kingrunes> /lag is useful
#802 [06:23] <Kanza> CPU usage isn't showing anything odd.
#803 [06:24] <Kanza> I Could download it and give it a go, haha
#804 [06:24] <Kingrunes> try getting Performace Monitor
#805 [06:24] <Kingrunes> Kealper
#806 [06:24] <Kingrunes> sorry, TAB fail
#807 [06:24] <Kanza> Okay.
#808 [06:24] <Kingrunes> Saves having Essentials bog down the server any more.
#809 [06:25] <Kanza> Oh, my server isn't bogged down. ^_^
#810 [06:25] <Kingrunes> I run 36 mods, 22 plugins (including an IRC link and Dynmap and Essentials) with around 3-5 players and I never drop 20 TPS with only 2 GB RAM.
#811 [06:25] <Kanza> As in, with plugins, i mean
#812 [06:25] <Kanza> 20 TPS?
#813 [06:25] <Kingrunes> Actually, I lie. Backups drop it to around 18 TPS
#814 [06:26] <Kingrunes> ticks per second
#815 [06:26] <Kanza> Ah
#816 [06:26] <Kingrunes> 20 it max
#817 [06:26] <Kingrunes> 15+ is fine
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#819 [06:26] <Kingrunes> So, get performance monitor and try /ss ingame.
#820 [06:26] <Kingrunes> Sometimes the TPS calculator is messed up
#821 [06:27] <Kingrunes> (registers 40 sometimes)
#822 [06:27] <Kanza> I've just downloaded and installed essentials
#823 [06:27] <Kingrunes> ah ok
#824 [06:27] <Kingrunes> /lag
#825 [06:27] <Kingrunes> and read out TPS
#826 [06:27] <Kanza> Yah, i will do that now.
#827 [06:27] <Kingrunes> can be done from console
#828 [06:27] <Kanza> Oh.
#829 [06:27] <Kanza> *facepalm*
#830 [06:27] <Kingrunes> What?
#831 [06:27] <Kingrunes> Let me guess
#832 [06:28] <Kingrunes> wait nope
#833 [06:28] <Kingrunes> that wouldnt work, shoot.
#834 [06:28] <Kanza> Current TPS is 19.
#835 [06:28] <Kingrunes> What is up then?
#836 [06:28] <Kanza> What do you mean, up?
#837 [06:28] <Kingrunes> My server with a CRAP ton of stuff is 20 TPS...
#838 [06:28] <Kingrunes> and the CPU aint great
#839 [06:29] <Kanza> it's 20 TPS now
#840 [06:29] <Kingrunes> yea
#841 [06:29] <Kingrunes> start lag maybe.
#842 [06:29] <Kanza> Probably.
#843 [06:29] <Kanza> So now do you think it's safe to assume it's my friends' problem?
#844 [06:30] <Kingrunes> when they're online
#845 [06:30] <Kingrunes> hold TAB and check the bars they're getting.
#846 [06:30] <Kingrunes> its based on ping time
#847 [06:30] <Kanza> The bars always glitch out.
#848 [06:30] <Kanza> For me, at least.
#849 [06:30] <Kingrunes> ah
#850 [06:30] <Kingrunes> strange...
#851 [06:30] <Kingrunes> Whats max users
#852 [06:30] <Kingrunes> ?
#853 [06:30] <Kanza> As in, this has been since their implementation, haha
#854 [06:30] <Kanza> Oh. It's at 3.
#855 [06:31] <Kingrunes> 3?
#856 [06:31] <Kingrunes> is max?
#857 [06:31] <Kingrunes> I have it at 8
#858 [06:31] <Kanza> It's just a small private server i host.
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#860 [06:31] <Kingrunes> Same
#861 [06:31] <Kanza> But i mean, i have it set to 3 in the server settings.
#862 [06:31] <Kingrunes> Mine is whitelisted
#863 [06:31] <Kingrunes> yea
#864 [06:32] <Kingrunes> mmm, if its over 1024 it used to glitch
#865 [06:32] <Kingrunes> also, what version of MC?
#866 [06:32] <Kanza> Server is running the latest Non-preview
#867 [06:32] <Kanza> So just 1.3.2
#868 [06:32] <Kingrunes> ah
#869 [06:32] <Kanza> Well, the bukkit version is at 1.3.1
#870 [06:33] <Kingrunes> Due mods, Im still hanging out on 1.2.5
#871 [06:33] <Kanza> Really?
#872 [06:33] <Kingrunes> Yea
#873 [06:33] <Kingrunes> but
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#875 [06:33] <Kingrunes> the people I play online with wouldn't play without mods.
#876 [06:33] <Kingrunes> Neither would I
#877 [06:33] <Kanza> Ah, okay
#878 [06:33] <Kingrunes> IMO, mods beat any MC update.
#879 [06:33] <Kanza> My friends don't care as long as the server's fun and updated on time.
#880 [06:34] <Kanza> :3
#881 [06:34] <Kingrunes> lol
#882 [06:34] <Kanza> But anyway, is there anything else i could check or do you think the problem isn't on my end?
#883 [06:35] <Kingrunes> well
#884 [06:35] <Kingrunes> Are you getting chat lag?
#885 [06:35] <Kanza> No.
#886 [06:35] <Kanza> None.
#887 [06:35] <Kingrunes> Where is it hosted? In your house?
#888 [06:35] <Kanza> Yes.
#889 [06:35] <Kingrunes> Best way IMO
#890 [06:35] <Kingrunes> I do the same.
#891 [06:35] <Kanza> Hahaha.
#892 [06:35] <Kanza> I couldn't agree more.
#893 [06:35] <Kanza> :3
#894 [06:36] <Kanza> So...
#895 [06:36] <Kingrunes> do you connect via LAN?
#896 [06:36] <Kingrunes> Mine is at 192.168.0.212 on my LAN, but kingrunes.com for outsiders
#897 [06:36] <Kanza> I connect via localhost..
#898 [06:36] <Kanza> And i play on the same computer..
#899 [06:36] <Kingrunes> OUCH
#900 [06:37] <Kingrunes> wait
#901 [06:37] <Kingrunes> "Open to LAN"
#902 [06:37] <Kingrunes> I host using a spare PC
#903 [06:37] <Kanza> How am i supposed to open it to LAN if i'm hosting it with bukkit?
#904 [06:38] <Kanza> And why should i do that?
#905 [06:38] <Kingrunes> wait
#906 [06:38] <Kingrunes> So your hosting a server and minecrafting?
#907 [06:38] <Kingrunes> All I can say is, OUCH
#908 [06:39] <Kanza> My computer can easily handle it.
#909 [06:39] <Kanza> Trust me.
#910 [06:39] <Kingrunes> I guess.
#911 [06:39] <Kanza> It's not a tiny little laptop.
#912 [06:39] <Kingrunes> Still, OUCH. Its 24/7?
#913 [06:39] <Kanza> No, it's not 24/7
#914 [06:39] <Kanza> It's whenever my friends feel like playing.
#915 [06:40] <Kanza> I'm planning on buying a new computer soon anyway, so i'll be hosting on this PC and playing on the new one then.
#916 [06:40] <Kingrunes> Ah.
#917 [06:40] <Kingrunes> My server is 24/7, also, try connecting using the address your friends use.
#918 [06:40] <Kanza> Sure.
#919 [06:41] <Kanza> Hold on, have to remove my current minecraft bin folder
#920 [06:41] <Kanza> I was trying out the prerelease, haha
#921 [06:43] <Kanza> Wat.
#922 [06:44] <Kanza> Now i'm getting huge chat lag.
#923 [06:44] <Kanza> But the world generation is fine.
#924 [06:44] <Kingrunes> Well, a packet is a packet.
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#926 [06:44] <Kanza> Oh.
#927 [06:45] <Kingrunes> Its your network.
#928 [06:45] <Kanza> Chat lag is gone now.
#929 [06:45] <Kingrunes> ah
#930 [06:45] <Kingrunes> maybe its because you just conencted
#931 [06:45] <Kanza> And maybe because essentials was running for the first time. :S
#932 [06:45] <Kingrunes> doubt it
#933 [06:45] <Kanza> Okay.
#934 [06:45] <Kingrunes> If the other user live in another part of the world, that may cause lag
#935 [06:46] <Kanza> My friends were right next to me in the server's big city when they started complaining about the issues.
#936 [06:47] <Kingrunes> I mean real life.
#937 [06:47] <Kingrunes> :P
#938 [06:47] <Kanza> OHH.
#939 [06:47] <Kanza> No, they live nearby, haha
#940 [06:47] <Kingrunes> ah, then I have no idea. Maybe they just suck?
#941 [06:47] <Kingrunes> jk
#942 [06:47] <Kingrunes> the connection
#943 [06:47] <Kingrunes> sucks
#944 [06:48] <Kanza> My connection speed is fine right now.
#945 [06:51] <Kingrunes> But, your friend' connection might be sucky.
#946 [06:51] <Kanza> Possible.
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#948 [06:55] <Kanza> Kingrunes.
#949 [06:55] <Kanza> I just noticed something strange.
#950 [06:56] <Kanza> Kingrunes?
#951 [06:56] <Kanza> :S
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#959 [07:19] <Le_Sondre> can u help me fix my minecraft
#960 [07:19] <Calinou> Le_Sondre, elaborate please?
#961 [07:19] <Le_Sondre> the game wont start
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#963 [07:22] <Le_Sondre> it just fails
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#965 [07:23] <lutzee> At what point does it stop loading?
#966 [07:23] <lutzee> -.-
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#968 [07:33] <PhoneSleep> Demo?
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#971 [07:36] <schnozzle> why i cant buy minecraft by paypal?
#972 [07:37] <lutzee> schnozzle, what does it say?
#973 [07:37] <schnozzle> contact with minecraft.net
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#975 [07:39] <lutzee> Er, everything it said when you tried to pay with paypal... i'm sure it didn't just say that
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#981 [08:01] <hoppsy2003> my minecraft wont load up, help please
#982 [08:02] <PhoneBook> Demo?
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#984 [08:03] <hoppsy2003> no i have premium status but it just wont load up
#985 [08:04] <lutzee> At what point does it stop loading?
#986 [08:05] <hoppsy2003> on the initialising downloading the game, it has been on before the night before and was fine but doesnt load up now
#987 [08:06] <hoppsy2003> it gets to about 90 percent and doesnt go any further on the green line
#988 [08:07] <lutzee> What antivirus do you use?
#989 [08:07] <hoppsy2003> i have disabled the firewall
#990 [08:07] <lutzee> That's not what i said :p what anti virus
#991 [08:07] <hoppsy2003> mcafee
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#994 [08:10] <lutzee> -.-, it's not my day
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#1002 [08:28] <handsome> Why can't i change my skin?
#1003 [08:28] <handsome> i ha bought minecraft already
#1004 [08:28] <lutzee> Skin servers are probably having problems again, keep trying
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#1006 [08:29] <handsome> i ahve tried a million times already
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#1010 [08:36] <handsome> can someone help me
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#1014 [08:42] <guacamole> hello every1 , got a problem with minecaft (like so many others ) , hopping u might help we . I allocated like 2 gb to java and it still saying out of memory , i've got allmost everything off or on low in the video setings , but no use, any ideeas ?
#1015 [08:44] <1AVAAKUE6> guacamole: are you using 32 bit or 64 bit java
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#1018 [08:46] <guacamole> i've got 32 bit
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#1020 [08:46] <1AVAAKUE6> can you get 64 bit
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#1023 [08:47] <guacamole> the game its on my laptop so i guess not , cuz its a notebook , and can't change the video bord
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#1036 [09:19] <SkeleJocker> ...
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#1043 [09:29] <Guest53276> can I cancel the purchase?
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#1056 [10:05] <John83792> Hi does minecraft accept gift cards?
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#1059 [10:06] <Morrolan> Yes, gift it to me. :>
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#1062 [10:13] <Ordinaryman> How can I stop minecraft from running a server in the background during single player mode?
#1063 [10:16] <Morrolan> You can't, that's how it works now.
#1064 [10:17] <Morrolan> If it's been a performance hit for you, you might have to wait an update or two for Mojang to improve performance.
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#1067 [10:20] <Ordinaryman> it's been a major hit... block lag, chunk erros, game pauses..... I upgraded my computer to massively exceed system requirements, that only made it worse :P
#1068 [10:21] <Morrolan> If it massively excees system requirements and you're still getting horrible FPS, something's wrong. ;)
#1069 [10:21] <Morrolan> If it massively excees system requirements and you're still getting horrible FPS, something's wrong. ;)
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#1071 [10:21] <Morrolan> My computer isn't terribly powerful, but I get a stable 60 FPS. :S
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#1073 [10:21] <Ordinaryman> heh heh Morrolan, I like you already... but you might consider a nickname change to CPT Obvious :)
#1074 [10:22] <Morrolan> Chances are that one's taken, already. ;)
#1075 [10:22] <Ordinaryman> darn :)
#1076 [10:22] <Morrolan> You could always try CPU / GPU monitoring tools, so see which piece of hardware can't keep up.
#1077 [10:22] <Ordinaryman> but yeah, I get a pretty stable 60fps with a GT630 2gb video card... so it's got to be a program problem
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#1079 [10:24] <Morrolan> Normally when I hear "chunk error" I claim it's network, but that'd be silly on a local server. :P
#1080 [10:24] <Ordinaryman> and I can't imagine a 6-core 3.2ghz processor with 16gb RAM to run with would be the issue
#1081 [10:24] <Morrolan> You could try to host a standalone server on your computer, and connect to that one.
#1082 [10:24] <Morrolan> Would allow you to figure out whether it's a bug of the singleplayer server, or whether it's something else.
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#1084 [10:25] <Ordinaryman> hmmmm I suppose I could dust off the old bukkit server..... I think they've updated by now
#1085 [10:25] <Morrolan> They are.
#1086 [10:25] <Morrolan> But yea, or just use the vanilla one, if you don't need any of Bukkit's functionality.
#1087 [10:26] <Ordinaryman> but since the errors are even worse when I join a multiplayer server, I kinda discounted the private server trial
#1088 [10:26] <Morrolan> Well, when joining an externally hosted server there could be a whole bunch of other culprits, so giving a locally hosted server a try would be worth a shot.
#1089 [10:27] <Ordinaryman> yeah, I'll try a vanilla server after breakfast....... thanks for the suggestion Morrolan
#1090 [10:27] <Morrolan> Good luck.
#1091 [10:27] <Ordinaryman> bye!
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#1094 [10:27] <Morrolan> If the issue still persists, feel free to..
#1095 [10:28] <Calinou> too late :p
#1096 [10:28] <Morrolan> VoxelHead, give me something nice.
#1097 [10:28] <Calinou> anyway, maybe running a dedicated server would help
#1098 [10:28] <Calinou> it does increase performance for me
#1099 [10:28] <Morrolan> It can't hurt to try, yea.
#1100 [10:28] <Calinou> (uses more RAM though)
#1101 [10:28] <Morrolan> If he's got 16 GB, he'll manage. :)
#1102 [10:29] <Calinou> I can run a dedicated (no GUI) + client on linux with 3GB ram perfectly
#1103 [10:30] <Calinou> IRC feels weird once you hide joins/parts/quits, btw (just did that) :P
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#1114 [10:49] * zack6849 thinks rymate1234's part message is a lie
#1114 [10:50] <Calinou> the part message is a lie
#1115 [10:50] <zack6849> :O
#1116 [10:50] * zack6849 's head explodes
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#1116 [10:50] <rymate1234> Hello! I'm back!
#1117 [10:51] * zack6849 looks suspiciously at rymate1234's message
#1117 [10:51] <rymate1234> what!
#1118 [10:51] <zack6849> LIES
#1119 [10:51] <rymate1234> No lies1
#1120 [10:51] <rymate1234> Honest!
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#1122 [10:52] * zack6849 is still suspicous
#1122 [10:52] <Calinou> apparently xchat's conference mode also hides kick messages
#1123 [10:52] <zack6849> yes ^_^
#1124 [10:52] * Calinou wonders why it is called "conference" mode
#1124 [10:52] <zack6849> i like conference mode
#1125 [10:53] <zack6849> its good for when channels get flooded
#1126 [10:53] <zack6849> #bukkit was flooded 3 times in a day this week
#1127 [10:53] <zack6849> and the flooder seemed rather fond of me
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#1129 [10:53] <zack6849> they even took the time to DDOS me :D
#1130 [10:53] * zack6849 was flattered
#1130 [10:53] <Calinou> meh I set it globally
#1131 [10:53] <Calinou> finally #ubuntu @ freenode is readable :p
#1132 [10:54] <Calinou> (1575 users there)
#1133 [10:55] <zack6849> yeah
#1134 [10:55] <zack6849> i've gone there a few times or help
#1135 [10:55] <tyteen4a03> zack6849: Contact #dragonweyr?
#1136 [10:55] <zack6849> i think it may have been you who was there
#1137 [10:55] <zack6849> done that already
#1138 [10:55] <zack6849> they always know
#1139 [10:55] <zack6849> TBS is always in #bukkit lurking
#1140 [10:55] <Calinou> rule -1 of espernet: never go to #dragonweyr
#1141 [10:55] <zack6849> they even felt the need to pm spam me
#1142 [10:56] <zack6849> why's that Calinou?
#1143 [10:56] <Calinou> reporting stuff tends to get you banned, from my very general experience
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#1145 [10:56] <Calinou> (this has happened to me in minecraft several times)
#1146 [10:56] <Calinou> one exception is forums
#1147 [10:56] <zack6849> i've nebver gotten banned from there
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#1149 [10:57] <zack6849> i've reported 3 times
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#1153 [10:58] <Calinou> anyway, just let the spam die and use /ignore
#1154 [10:58] <zack6849> i cant
#1155 [10:58] <Calinou> that's what I do - not bothering with spam
#1156 [10:58] <zack6849> if its ~200 bots
#1157 [10:58] <zack6849> i cant do much
#1158 [10:58] <Calinou> leave the channel
#1159 [10:58] <zack6849> so i contact dragons when its needed
#1160 [10:58] <zack6849> thing is
#1161 [10:58] <zack6849> he flooded
#1162 [10:58] <zack6849> ~4 channels
#1163 [10:58] <zack6849> all minecraft related
#1164 [10:58] <zack6849> #bukkit
#1165 [10:58] <zack6849> #bukkitdev
#1166 [10:58] <zack6849> #spacebukkit
#1167 [10:58] <zack6849> #titandev
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#1169 [10:59] <zack6849> just extremley annoying and a pan in the ass
#1170 [10:59] <zack6849> so #help said to tell #dragon
#1171 [10:59] <s-roberts> new mindcrafter. does anyone know if you can make bales of hay?
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#1174 [10:59] <tyteen4a03> zack6849: that would be the thing to do, yes
#1175 [11:00] <zack6849> if it were jsut one channel i wouldnt care
#1176 [11:00] <zack6849> but multiple is when i try and get op's involved
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#1181 [11:02] <1AVAAKUE6> if bukkit werent managed like crap it wouldnt be much of an issue
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#1183 [11:03] <s-roberts> new mindcrafter. does anyone know if you can make bales of hay?
#1184 [11:03] <Boreeas> EvilSeph has a kick script for bukkitdev, is there nothing like that in bukkit? Or a bot maybe?
#1185 [11:03] <Boreeas> s-roberts: HArvest them
#1186 [11:03] <Boreeas> s-roberts: Also, tip, it's minecraft
#1187 [11:03] <Calinou> you can't make "wheat blocks"
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#1189 [11:03] <Calinou> with wheat you can make bread and cookies
#1190 [11:03] <Boreeas> Oh, bale is a block. I though it meant "bundle" :P
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#1192 [11:04] <s-roberts> the name was a joke( bad one i admit) b/c i said i was new to minecraft sry
#1193 [11:05] <s-roberts> ok thanks guys
#1194 [11:07] <Calinou> np
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#1211 [11:24] <hrking> how do you ca
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#1213 [11:26] <Boreeas> hrking: 'ca'?
#1214 [11:26] <Calinou> maybe he wants to go to canada.
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#1216 [11:27] <hrking> how do you change the appcnr of your mincaft carite
#1217 [11:29] <hrking> wht
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#1219 [11:29] <tyteen4a03> hrking: The Minecraft Skin feature is currently broken
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#1221 [11:29] <hrking> k
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#1226 [11:34] <hrking> how do you change the appearance of minecraft
#1227 [11:35] <Andrio> Get a texture pack
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#1229 [11:36] <hrking> ok
#1230 [11:36] <Calinou> see http://minecraftwiki.net/texture_packs
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#1234 [11:42] <Cenvix> Hello?
#1235 [11:42] <tikker> yes?
#1236 [11:42] <CrusaderDeleters> Hai
#1237 [11:42] <Cenvix> I recently updated my java to 7
#1238 [11:43] <Cenvix> now I cant see my skin
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#1241 [11:43] <Cenvix> is this a problem?
#1242 [11:43] <CrusaderDeleters> How many times did you reload minecraft?
#1243 [11:43] <tikker> CrusaderDeleters will help you
#1244 [11:43] <tikker> i gtg
#1245 [11:43] <Cenvix> thanks
#1246 [11:43] <tyteen4a03> Cenvix: Could you see the skins when it was java 6?
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#1248 [11:43] <Cenvix> yes as normal
#1249 [11:44] <Cenvix> I need java 7 to run minecraft faster
#1250 [11:44] <tyteen4a03> Cenvix: Java 7 won't make Minecraft run faster
#1251 [11:44] <CrusaderDeleters> I ran 6_32 a lot, however, I saw the skins half the time.
#1252 [11:44] <Cenvix> oh
#1253 [11:45] <CrusaderDeleters> It's the minecraft Auth system bugging out a little.
#1254 [11:45] <CrusaderDeleters> Half the time it can be fixed by a simple relog
#1255 [11:45] <Cenvix> oh ok
#1256 [11:45] <Cenvix> so using it is fine?
#1257 [11:45] <Cenvix> or does it have other problems
#1258 [11:45] <CrusaderDeleters> I think now 7's starting to get into the possibility of being used.
#1259 [11:46] <Cenvix> oh ok
#1260 [11:46] <Boreeas> There is an LWJGL issue with Java 7 that can be fixed by manually upgrading LWJGL, but that has nothing to do with the skin
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#1262 [11:47] <Cenvix> whats LWJGL
#1263 [11:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Light weight Java Graphics Library
#1264 [11:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Mojang imported coding for the controls, sound, and visual of the game.
#1265 [11:48] <Cenvix> oh the black lighting thing is happening more often
#1266 [11:48] <Cenvix> you think optifine would help?
#1267 [11:49] <CrusaderDeleters> Honestly, I've used optifine once. In order to make my game's performance lower.
#1268 [11:49] <CrusaderDeleters> I don't know if it would/wouldn't fix that.
#1269 [11:49] <Cenvix> w8 so optifine made your game lag more?
#1270 [11:50] <CrusaderDeleters> That's because I put the settings to extreme.
#1271 [11:50] <CrusaderDeleters> I purposely made it that way.
#1272 [11:50] <Cenvix> oh ok XD
#1273 [11:50] <CrusaderDeleters> Optifine can be tuned to make minecraft's performance better or worse, depending how you want it.
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#1275 [11:51] <Cenvix> oh ok XD
#1276 [11:52] <Cenvix> but it wont fix the skin thing right?
#1277 [11:52] <CrusaderDeleters> It depends.
#1278 [11:52] <CrusaderDeleters> I'm not quite sure if it would.
#1279 [11:53] <Cenvix> ok Ill try :)
#1280 [11:53] <CrusaderDeleters> Most others can see your skin while you cannot.
#1281 [11:54] <Boreeas> Well, skin servers are unstable right now, so nothing client-side will fix that
#1282 [11:54] <CrusaderDeleters> There IS one thing
#1283 [11:54] <CrusaderDeleters> But it will make all the other minecraft stevians your skin also.
#1284 [11:55] <Cenvix> I can see other's skins though
#1285 [11:55] <CrusaderDeleters> Boreeas: Is minecraft's skin server down?
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#1287 [11:56] <Boreeas> Not down - no one would be able to see /any/ skins other than the default ones then.
#1288 [11:56] <CrusaderDeleters> Aah, so then a slight chance to see a skin.
#1289 [11:56] <Boreeas> But if some people can see them and others can't, my guess is that the skin servers are having trouble
#1290 [11:56] <Boreeas> CrusaderDeleters: Again, not sure, it's based on what I've heard from others.
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#1292 [11:57] <Cenvix> ok thanks guys
#1293 [11:57] <CrusaderDeleters> Cenvix: I hope you are able to view skins next time you are ever online. :)
#1294 [11:58] <Cenvix> ok thanks again and bye :)
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#1297 [11:59] <CrusaderDeleters> Have a nice day.
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#1300 [12:00] <CrusaderDeleters> Well now I am back at minecraft keeps closing out.
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#1318 [12:42] <willshmo258> hello, minecraft wont update, please help
#1319 [12:42] <Wug> have you tried force updating
#1320 [12:42] <willshmo258> yes
#1321 [12:42] <Wug> what does it do
#1322 [12:42] <Wug> describe its behavior
#1323 [12:43] <willshmo258> it says error occured (4):/ Users/Will/Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar
#1324 [12:43] <willshmo258> and it says failed to launch above it
#1325 [12:43] <Wug> after you force update?
#1326 [12:44] <willshmo258> after I press force update then login, it does that
#1327 [12:45] <Wug> do you have avg
#1328 [12:45] <willshmo258> whats avg?
#1329 [12:45] <Wug> antivirus software
#1330 [12:45] <willshmo258> yes i do
#1331 [12:46] <Wug> disable it and update
#1332 [12:46] <Wug> you can reenable it afterwards
#1333 [12:46] <willshmo258> how do i do that
#1334 [12:46] <Wug> try right clicking its icon in the lower right
#1335 [12:46] <willshmo258> im on a mac though
#1336 [12:46] <Wug> mmm yes you are
#1337 [12:47] <Wug> and ... you have avg?
#1338 [12:47] <willshmo258> so what should i do
#1339 [12:47] <Wug> I don't think you do
#1340 [12:47] <willshmo258> what?
#1341 [12:47] <Wug> do you, or do you not, have AVG
#1342 [12:48] <willshmo258> I actually dont think so
#1343 [12:49] <Wug> have you tried redownloading the launcher
#1344 [12:49] <willshmo258> no where can i do that
#1345 [12:49] <Boreeas> http://minecraft.net/download
#1346 [12:50] <willshmo258> k thanks
#1347 [12:50] <willshmo258> is it minecraft.zip
#1348 [12:50] <Wug> willshmo258: yes
#1349 [12:50] <willshmo258> k thanks
#1350 [12:50] <Wug> Boreeas: you dont happen to have a mac do you
#1351 [12:50] <willshmo258> i do
#1352 [12:50] <Boreeas> No, sorry
#1353 [12:51] <Boreeas> Morrolan: Get here, now
#1354 [12:51] <Wug> willshmo258: your name isnt Boreeas
#1355 [12:51] * Morrolan blinks
#1355 [12:51] <Boreeas> We need Mac help
#1356 [12:51] <willshmo258> go where
#1357 [12:51] * Morrolan slaps Boreeas
#1357 [12:51] <Boreeas> :P
#1358 [12:51] <Morrolan> Since when do I own a Mac?
#1359 [12:51] * Morrolan wanders off again
#1359 [12:51] <Boreeas> Sorry, I thought you did
#1360 [12:51] <Wug> lol
#1361 [12:51] <willshmo258> i own a mac
#1362 [12:51] <willshmo258> u guys suck
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#1364 [12:51] <Boreeas> willshmo258: Excuse us?
#1365 [12:51] <Wug> k
#1366 [12:52] <Wug> I'm going to yell at him if he bothers to come back
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#1368 [12:53] <TheJaden> How do I de update my minecraft?
#1369 [12:54] <Wug> read the topic.
#1370 [12:54] <TheJaden> Topic?
#1371 [12:54] <Morrolan> "/topic" will show you a channel's topic.
#1372 [12:54] <Wug> its at the top of the screen
#1373 [12:54] <Morrolan> And, like most topics, it contains useful information.
#1374 [12:54] <TheJaden> what
#1375 [12:54] * Morrolan sobs
#1375 [12:54] <Wug> what what?
#1376 [12:54] <TheJaden> does that mean
#1377 [12:55] <TheJaden> Wug
#1378 [12:55] <Boreeas> Exactly what is says on the tin
#1379 [12:55] <TheJaden> MCNostalgia
#1380 [12:55] <Morrolan> 1) Issue a "/topic" 2) Read the topic 3) You now have the answer you wanted :)
#1381 [12:55] <Boreeas> It's a tool. For de updateing meincraft
#1382 [12:55] <TheJaden> Cool
#1383 [12:55] <TheJaden> Brb guys
#1384 [12:55] * Morrolan waves
#1384 [12:55] <TheJaden> xD
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#1387 [13:00] <TheJaden> cool
#1388 [13:00] <TheJaden> I am in 1.2.5 now!
#1389 [13:00] <TheJaden> Ty guys
#1390 [13:01] <rymate1234> yay
#1391 [13:01] <TheJaden> what
#1392 [13:01] <TheJaden> Now I need to re download my mods -_-
#1393 [13:02] <TheJaden> well thanks gusy
#1394 [13:02] <TheJaden> guys
#1395 [13:02] <TheJaden> Bye
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#1398 [13:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Hello guys
#1399 [13:15] <CrusaderDeleters> I have a compilation of erros: http://pastebin.com/0e75Yg9L
#1400 [13:16] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: lol at the image
#1401 [13:16] <Wug> update dem graphics drivers
#1402 [13:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Are updated.
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#1404 [13:16] <CrusaderDeleters> Uninstalled | Reinstalled drivers
#1405 [13:18] <CrusaderDeleters> It seems to give the "Minecraft has crashed!" error whenever I try to break reeds.
#1406 [13:18] <Wug> is this a vanilla issue
#1407 [13:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes.
#1408 [13:19] <CrusaderDeleters> 1.3, unmodified
#1409 [13:20] <Wug> reinstall java
#1410 [13:20] <Wug> uninstall all old versions first
#1411 [13:20] <Wug> and by all old versions I mean all versions period
#1412 [13:20] <CrusaderDeleters> Every java was uninstalled; java 6_34 was tested, then removed and tested with 7.
#1413 [13:21] <Wug> judging by http://pastebin.com/bbN8CBwN, something is not right with it
#1414 [13:21] <Wug> you should not be getting MethodNotFoundExceptions with library classes
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#1416 [13:21] <Wug> what versions do you currently have
#1417 [13:22] <CrusaderDeleters> For Java?
#1418 [13:22] <Wug> yes
#1419 [13:22] <CrusaderDeleters> 7_6
#1420 [13:22] <Wug> 32 or 64 bit
#1421 [13:22] <Wug> and are you on 32 or 64 bit windows
#1422 [13:22] <CrusaderDeleters> 64, I believe.
#1423 [13:22] <Morrolan> "java -version" in the console shows Java's version.
#1424 [13:22] <CrusaderDeleters> I use 64-bit Windows 7, Home Premium
#1425 [13:23] <CrusaderDeleters> That's what I did to test. ;)
#1426 [13:23] <Morrolan> Then what is the "I believe" doing there? ;D
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#1429 [13:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh, you.
#1430 [13:23] <Jackson413> any ops on?
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#1432 [13:23] * Morrolan hides
#1432 [13:23] <CrusaderDeleters> *doesn't hide, for he is not an operator*
#1433 [13:23] <Morrolan> Jackson413 - Just ask, someone (who might not even be an op) might respond.
#1434 [13:24] <Jackson413> ohai, so I was looking to set up a dedicated server on this computer that I have
#1435 [13:24] <Jackson413> where do I start?
#1436 [13:24] <CrusaderDeleters> #bukkit?
#1437 [13:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Woops
#1438 [13:24] <CrusaderDeleters> #bukkit , Sorry, the ? got included
#1439 [13:24] <tyteen4a03> Jackson413: Try the guide at Minecraft Wiki
#1440 [13:24] <Jackson413> no, like I'm looking to set this computer up to opimally run minecraft
#1441 [13:24] <Morrolan> Jackson413 - Depends. If you want a server which you can add plugins to, then Craftbukkit (www.bukkit.org) might be a good choice.
#1442 [13:24] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: I'm still convinced its a java issue
#1443 [13:25] <Wug> I'm assuming its worked in the past on this computer.
#1444 [13:25] <Jackson413> I was wondering like what was the best os to run on it.
#1445 [13:25] <CrusaderDeleters> It has
#1446 [13:25] <CrusaderDeleters> I have kept with java 6_32
#1447 [13:25] <Morrolan> Jackson413 - Given that it's Java, it shouldn't matter.
#1448 [13:25] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: do earlier versions work
#1449 [13:25] <Morrolan> Jackson413 - Most BIG servers are run on Linux OSs though, because of other features Linux has.
#1450 [13:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Uhm, yeah.
#1451 [13:25] <Calinou> iirc 80% of servers in the world run on linux
#1452 [13:25] <Calinou> and 87% of the fastest computers in the world use linux
#1453 [13:25] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: youve tried force updating
#1454 [13:26] <Wug> ?
#1455 [13:26] <Wug> and reinstalling the launcher?
#1456 [13:26] <tikker> above all the other features of linux, its mostly because linux uses little ram
#1457 [13:26] <Jackson413> Wug, what is his OS?
#1458 [13:26] <Wug> tikker: nope
#1459 [13:26] <Wug> Jackson413: win7 x64
#1460 [13:26] <Calinou> free, open source, safe, stable, lots of distributions, fast
#1461 [13:26] <Morrolan> tikker - Most big servers don't have to worry much about RAM I think. ;)
#1462 [13:26] <Jackson413> whats the error?
#1463 [13:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug: I don't think force update will do much. Ya see, the same exact things happen on my WoM client, and I tried to reinstall all of that.
#1464 [13:26] <CrusaderDeleters> Akthough I will give it a shot
#1465 [13:26] <Calinou> classic is not supported here
#1466 [13:26] <tikker> Morrolan yeah ok XD
#1467 [13:26] <tikker> but still
#1468 [13:27] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: is your computer overclocked?
#1469 [13:27] <CrusaderDeleters> Uh... No.
#1470 [13:27] <Morrolan> Oh, it's easier to run a Linux OS on a crappy laptop than Windows, no doubt.
#1471 [13:27] <tikker> ofcourse
#1472 [13:27] <CrusaderDeleters> It runs around 3.somethjing gigaherz
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#1475 [13:27] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: you should get teamviewer
#1476 [13:27] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll pm you the Userid and password
#1477 [13:28] <Wug> yep
#1478 [13:28] <tikker> has he already tried force updating etc. to see if that helped?
#1479 [13:29] <Jackson413> Morrolan, is there anything beneficial I can run on the computer in order to optimize anything?
#1480 [13:29] <Morrolan> When your computer has a freshly installed OS? No.
#1481 [13:30] <Morrolan> Au contraire, run as little other programs as possible, if its hardware isn't too great.
#1482 [13:30] <Jackson413> oh, I would also like to have like ssh and be able to ftp things to and fro
#1483 [13:30] <Calinou> +1 for french expression, Morrolan :)
#1484 [13:31] <Calinou> Jackson413, you can use ssh/ftp from a linux computer/to a linux computer of course ;) you can also ssh from a windows/mac computer
#1485 [13:31] <Morrolan> Jackson413 - Then pick a Linux distro, it's easier to get such things running on a Linux OS than on Windows. :)
#1486 [13:31] <Calinou> I suggest debian personally - quite fast, VERY stable. it's not hard to use
#1487 [13:31] <Morrolan> (If you have an SSH daemon running you can use SFTP instead of FTP, while your'e at it)
#1488 [13:31] <Jackson413> how about ftp from a windows to linux
#1489 [13:31] <Morrolan> That's no problem, FIlezilla and Co will do that just fine.
#1490 [13:31] <Jackson413> Co?
#1491 [13:32] <Jackson413> I love FZ
#1492 [13:32] <Calinou> co = "company"
#1493 [13:32] <Jackson413> ah
#1494 [13:32] <Morrolan> Calinou - Heh, there's a few French expresesions which I try to use every now and then, but, generally speaking, my French could use some work. ;D
#1495 [13:33] <Eddie> Pratique-toi, alors.
#1496 [13:33] <Morrolan> It's not useful enough (for me) that I'd spend time on it.
#1497 [13:33] <Morrolan> I'd rather learn Italian.
#1498 [13:33] <Jackson413> learn spanish if you wanna learn italian
#1499 [13:33] <Jackson413> they're quite close
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#1501 [13:34] <Jackson413> then the transition from spanish to italian is easy
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#1503 [13:34] <oXxAvatarxXo> hi
#1504 [13:35] <Calinou> spanish is actually quite useless, Jackson413 :P
#1505 [13:35] <oXxAvatarxXo> Anyone Speak german? >_<
#1506 [13:35] <Calinou> if you want a more useful language learn german :p
#1507 [13:35] <Calinou> due to guys like this ^ :P
#1508 [13:35] <oXxAvatarxXo> haha
#1509 [13:35] <oXxAvatarxXo> Kann mir jemand helfen?
#1510 [13:35] * Calinou doesn't speak german, though; just saying
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#1511 [13:36] <oXxAvatarxXo> Looking for Help XD
#1512 [13:36] <Jackson413> Calinou, what made you make such an uneducated assumption?
#1513 [13:37] <Calinou> Jackson413, from my experience german people tend "enforce" their language in some way and refuse speaking english (it's harsh to format it like this but this seems to be true), much more than spanish people
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#1515 [13:38] <Jackson413> Does the fact that spanish is close to 3 other languages to my knowledge change your opinion?
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#1517 [13:39] <Calinou> no it doesn't
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#1519 [13:39] <Jackson413> And really now, there are many more Spanish speaking people than German speaking people.
#1520 [13:39] <oXxAvatarxXo> Looking for german help !
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#1523 [13:40] <Calinou> doesn't mean they're more present on the internet :p
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#1526 [13:40] <Jackson413> rage quit!
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#1530 [13:41] <MrKris> Does anyone here want to play 'The Walls' it is required that you can use Ventrilo :)
#1531 [13:41] <MrKris> ?
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#1538 [14:02] <CrusaderDeleters> So far, it says that the disk's os doesn't work.
#1539 [14:02] <CrusaderDeleters> Also, it didn't reformat my drive. 0.0
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#1541 [14:03] <Shend> Hello everyone, I am having trouble connecting to a local server. The crash log is at http://pastebin.com/3s2TCQh1. Can anybody help me correct this error?
#1542 [14:04] <CrusaderDeleters> Shend: What exactly happens when you connect?
#1543 [14:05] <CrusaderDeleters> wug: There's a couple of problems
#1544 [14:05] <tinjaw> It has been months and months and months since I played minecraft. Just restarting today. Is there a "HD client"? I'm guessing I need to use some texture packs and maybe a font pack. Please point me where I can get the info. Thanks.
#1545 [14:06] <Shend> It says connecting, I enter the world, and after about 5-10 seconds the game screen changes and says that it crashed and to locate the crash log at C://... if I want to report it to anyone.
#1546 [14:06] <CrusaderDeleters> My flash drive wasn't reformatted, (Already in NTFS format), and the boot doesn't launch.
#1547 [14:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Shend: Perhaps the map may be corrupted? You could try to create a new map and test with that.
#1548 [14:06] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: formatting it manually first
#1549 [14:06] <Wug> to FAT32
#1550 [14:06] <Wug> try formatting*
#1551 [14:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright, moving the files to my Centon FD
#1552 [14:07] <Shend> ok it is worth a shot, brb
#1553 [14:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Shend: Another attempt may be to reinstall (force update) Minecraft.
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#1556 [14:10] <Wug> tinjaw: just search on google for texture packs
#1557 [14:10] <Boreeas> tinjaw: You can use the default launcher for HS texturepacks, you just need to patch it firsz
#1558 [14:10] <Shend> Wow, I will be honest, I didn't think that would work because they are able to play on it. However, creating a new world map worked. Thank you for your help CrusaderDeleter
#1559 [14:10] <Boreeas> The patcher is in the texturepack subforum on the mcforums
#1560 [14:11] <Wug> Shend: looks like your world was damaged somehow
#1561 [14:11] <CrusaderDeleters> http://imgur.com/fYfz6 Who wants to see something cool?
#1562 [14:11] <Shend> Is there a way to fix the world map that they were originally playing on?
#1563 [14:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug: Can I have that Flash Drive os installer?
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#1565 [14:12] <CrusaderDeleters> Shend: I'm afraid that is very improbable. I haven't been able to look for something to fix it, because I've never seen the problem before. You could ask around and try to check if someone fixed a map, or you can start fresh if the map has barely any work on it.
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#1568 [14:16] <ItsJustThatGuy> Hey everyone.
#1569 [14:16] <ItsJustThatGuy> ..... Hello?
#1570 [14:17] <ItsJustThatGuy> Anyone
#1571 [14:17] <ItsJustThatGuy> ANYONE?
#1572 [14:17] <Shend> Ok I guess I will have to do some research because we have a lot of work put into that world so I would love to be able to fix it. Were you able to take a look at the crash log I posted in pastebin?
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#1574 [14:18] <ItsJustThatGuy> Hey, I have a problem.
#1575 [14:20] <ItsJustThatGuy> When I upload a skin, it says "Skin Change Successful" or something like that, but when I begin to play, my skin is still Steve.
#1576 [14:20] <ItsJustThatGuy> Any thoughtd?
#1577 [14:20] <ItsJustThatGuy> *thoughts?
#1578 [14:20] <oldtopman> ItsJustThatGuy: Skins are broken.
#1579 [14:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Shend, you still here?
#1580 [14:21] <Shend> yes
#1581 [14:21] <CrusaderDeleters> I haven't dealt with corrupted save files personally
#1582 [14:22] <CrusaderDeleters> And I really wouldn't want to try to fix it myself.
#1583 [14:22] <Shend> ItsJustThatGuy: I had that same issue but it corrected itself after I died. When I respawned my skin was back to normal.
#1584 [14:22] <CrusaderDeleters> The first thing you should do before toying with it is back it up in case you failed.
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#1586 [14:22] <Shend> Creating a backup is always sound advise :)
#1587 [14:23] <CrusaderDeleters> It's advisable for any fixing of errors.
#1588 [14:23] <CrusaderDeleters> It's advisable for any fixing of errors.
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#1590 [14:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Now, be right back as I test a boot drive.
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#1598 [14:28] <Assiela> hi everybody
#1599 [14:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug
#1600 [14:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Hello, Assiela.
#1601 [14:29] <CrusaderDeleters> When I am in the Boot, it shows up unibootin
#1602 [14:29] <Assiela> my minecraft launcher when i go to log in it says " Cant connect to minecraft.net" but i can in the browser
#1603 [14:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Instead of the memtest stuff I made.
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#1605 [14:30] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: did you try booting to it
#1606 [14:30] <Assiela> yes
#1607 [14:31] <Wug> Assiela: I wasnt speaking to you
#1608 [14:31] <Wug> but I bet its a firewall issue
#1609 [14:31] <Wug> try disabling your firewall
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#1611 [14:33] <Assiela> i haved
#1612 [14:33] <Assiela> i have**
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#1615 [14:35] <Assiela> so does anyone have any ideas???
#1616 [14:35] <CrusaderDeleters> BSoD Count: 3
#1617 [14:35] <CrusaderDeleters> This is getting rediculous.
#1618 [14:35] <TheDireLynx> i think i've had this problem before but i can't remember how to fix it, the error message is Failed to login: java.net.UnknownHostException: session.minecraft.net
#1619 [14:36] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: well its definitely a hardware issue
#1620 [14:36] <TheDireLynx> hey wug
#1621 [14:36] <Boreeas> Erm, looks like the session servers are down?
#1622 [14:36] <Boreeas> http://help.mojang.com/ disagrees
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#1624 [14:37] <Wug> TheDireLynx: hello
#1625 [14:37] <Boreeas> But I can't ping it
#1626 [14:37] <Wug> Boreeas: you never can
#1627 [14:37] <TheDireLynx> i can get a ping reading on servers, but i always get that message.
#1628 [14:37] <TheDireLynx> and it says others are online.
#1629 [14:37] <Wug> TheDireLynx: do you remember whether it had something do do with ipv6
#1630 [14:37] <Boreeas> Wug: Ah, you're right. And telnet also connects
#1631 [14:38] <Morrolan> TheDireLynx - Alternatively it might be your DNS servers being silly.
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#1633 [14:38] <TheDireLynx> i think it was a DNS
#1634 [14:38] <TheDireLynx> i remember changing it
#1635 [14:38] <Wug> derp
#1636 [14:38] <TheDireLynx> and that fixed it. now it's dumb again.
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#1638 [14:38] <Wug> did you mess with your hosts file
#1639 [14:38] <TheDireLynx> no
#1640 [14:38] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug: On the boot screen on my flash drive, it comes up with unetbootin, instead of memtest.
#1641 [14:39] <Assiela> so is there any fixes or do i just need to play it in the browser???
#1642 [14:39] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: you did specify the right iso right
#1643 [14:39] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah
#1644 [14:39] <Wug> Assiela: its not september
#1645 [14:39] <Wug> nor is it sunday, nor is it 2009
#1646 [14:39] <Wug> you might want to correct your computers clock
#1647 [14:39] <Wug> you'll be able to connect after that.
#1648 [14:40] <Morrolan> TheDireLynx: control panel -> network and sharing center -> change adapter settings -> right click the appropriate adapter -> properties -> Internet Protocol Version 4 -> Properties -> Use the following DNS server addresses -> Use, for example, 8.8.8.8 as your preferred DNS server.
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#1650 [14:40] <Wug> it's not 4:08 anywhere in the world right now
#1651 [14:40] <Morrolan> The first steps might be different, depending on what Windows version you are on, but it should be, more or less, similar.
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#1654 [14:41] <TheDireLynx> so morrolan, do you know of a different DNS server i could set it to or are you asking me to change it to something random, then change it back?
#1655 [14:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Wug?
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#1657 [14:41] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: did you try actually booting to it
#1658 [14:41] <CrusaderDeleters> Yeah
#1659 [14:41] <CrusaderDeleters> I did boot into it
#1660 [14:41] <Morrolan> 8.8.8.8 (and 8.8.8.4) are Google's public DNS servers, TheDireLynx.
#1661 [14:41] <TheDireLynx> ok
#1662 [14:41] <Morrolan> There's also plenty of other public ones.
#1663 [14:41] <Carlos> Can someone here help me add /spawn for everyone to be able to use?
#1664 [14:42] <Wug> Carlos: not a vanilla feature
#1665 [14:42] <Morrolan> Carlos - Depends on what plugin provides this command, check its documentation for the appropriate permissions node.
#1666 [14:42] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: isn't 8.8.4.4?
#1667 [14:42] <Wug> ask in #bukkit
#1668 [14:42] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Err, maybe.
#1669 [14:42] <CrusaderDeleters> It came up with a unetbootin boot, wug.
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#1671 [14:42] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: tell you a secret, ive never used it
#1672 [14:42] <CrusaderDeleters> .-.
#1673 [14:42] <Wug> you might have to troubleshoot on your own
#1674 [14:42] <CrusaderDeleters> I'll goog le it
#1675 [14:42] <Morrolan> Wug - Doubtful they want to provide support for specific plugins, just like most of us don't want to provide support for mods.
#1676 [14:42] <TheDireLynx> anyway my dad is going to turn off the internet soon, might be back tommorrow, depending on how succesful changing the DNS server is.
#1677 [14:43] <Carlos> i tried Morrolan but its not working.
#1678 [14:43] <Carlos> Can someone take alook over teamviewer?
#1679 [14:43] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: since its affecting all of your programs instead of just one, I'd just try cleaning and reseating your memories.
#1680 [14:43] <Carlos> beeen trying to fix but it wont work.
#1681 [14:43] <Morrolan> Carlos - Then contact the devs of the plugin in question.
#1682 [14:43] <Carlos> But
#1683 [14:43] <TheDireLynx> bye.
#1684 [14:43] <Carlos> idk if its the plugin
#1685 [14:43] <Carlos> idk if its the plugin
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#1687 [14:43] <CrusaderDeleters> Alright wug, I'll try to clean my harddrives.
#1688 [14:44] <Carlos> or my config
#1689 [14:44] <Carlos> what can i use so everyone can /spawn
#1690 [14:44] <Morrolan> Even if you're doing it just wrong (which is, most likely, the case), they'll be able to help you further.
#1691 [14:44] <Morrolan> Use a permissions plugin, give everyone the appropriate node.
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#1696 [14:46] <lena88> im having a really big issue
#1697 [14:47] <Wug> well I guess you'd better describe it
#1698 [14:47] <Morrolan> Tell me about it. *sniff*
#1699 [14:47] <lena88> my character only moves front to back and not side
#1700 [14:47] <Morrolan> You sure you assigned the correct keys in the settings menu?
#1701 [14:47] <lena88> can only look foward cant look up down anthing on all maps
#1702 [14:48] <Morrolan> Uh, what was the software which caused insane input again, Wug?
#1703 [14:48] <Morrolan> ??< index
#1704 [14:48] <lena88> we checked the the controls i even deleted the whole game and re downloaded it
#1705 [14:48] <Wug> that comcast thing
#1706 [14:48] <Wug> lena88: do you have comcast constant guard
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#1708 [14:48] <lena88> xbox360 version
#1709 [14:48] <Wug> or whatever its called
#1710 [14:48] <Morrolan> ?? phantominput
#1711 [14:48] <VoxelHead> phantominput: If you installed 'Constant Guard by Comcast' and suddenly the controls in Minecraft are insane or nonfunctional, uninstall it. This is a known issue.
#1712 [14:48] <Morrolan> Oh, xbox 360? In this case - I'm out.
#1713 [14:48] <Merpanator100> When i press esc on minecraft it syas server textures and snooper what is that?
#1714 [14:48] <Wug> reset the controls
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#1716 [14:49] <Wug> Merpanator100: did you try clicking on any of them
#1717 [14:49] <Merpanator100> Yes
#1718 [14:49] <lena88> i did reset everything
#1719 [14:49] <Morrolan> Merpanator100 - Under "Snooper" you can configure which data of you using the game gets sent to Mojang.
#1720 [14:49] <Wug> server textures lets you apply texture packs that the server provides
#1721 [14:49] <Morrolan> E.g. whether it may send what OS you are on, etc.
#1722 [14:49] <Wug> snooper describes what it does
#1723 [14:49] <Merpanator100> O ok thanks
#1724 [14:49] <Morrolan> And server textures, just what Wug said. :)
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#1726 [14:50] <Merpanator100> So was snopper and server textures apllied in 1.3.2?
#1727 [14:50] <Wug> maybe 1.3.1
#1728 [14:50] <Merpanator100> Ok thanks for your help
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#1731 [14:50] <lena88> does this mean my minecraft could have possibly been hacked
#1732 [14:51] <Wug> lena88: thats ridiculous
#1733 [14:51] <lena88> ive tried everything i am even trying to contact xbox cause i really dont wanna looses all my maps
#1734 [14:51] <Wug> other games work? controller ist broken?
#1735 [14:51] <Wug> isnt*
#1736 [14:51] <lena88> other games work and does the same thing with different controllers
#1737 [14:51] <Wug> do other worlds work or are all of them broken
#1738 [14:52] <lena88> all do the same thing
#1739 [14:52] <lena88> only on my gamertag
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#1741 [14:52] <Morrolan> Oh, right, change your gamertag.
#1742 [14:52] <Wug> someone else had that issue and it was a control configuration issue
#1743 [14:52] <Morrolan> Someone claimed it worked fine after he changed his gamer tag.
#1744 [14:53] <jcsackett> hi, does anyone have any idea why minecraft on os x wouldn't launch? like at all? icon just bounces for a few moments and then disppears; no error message or anything. just bought it and installed, kinda bummed.
#1745 [14:53] <Morrolan> Maybe he just changed other things in the meantime, withouth thinking of them.
#1746 [14:53] <lena88> yea but if i do that i cant play on my maps
#1747 [14:53] <lena88> that i have worked hard on
#1748 [14:53] <Wug> jcsackett: you have java right?
#1749 [14:53] <jcsackett> wug; yeah, and following the FAQ just installed the most up to date version.
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#1751 [14:54] <Wug> I'm not a mac person
#1752 [14:54] <abbiek> What's the number to contact someone about the game?
#1753 [14:54] <Wug> (I have no idea how to troubleshoot macs)
#1754 [14:54] <Morrolan> abbiek - There is no support number.
#1755 [14:54] <Wug> abbiek: there isnt one, and if there was it would be a very expensive international call that you'd have to make in the middle of the night
#1756 [14:54] <Morrolan> ??> jcsackett mac/permissions
#1757 [14:54] <GreyVulpine> jcsackett - Are you running mountain lion?
#1758 [14:54] <VoxelHead> jcsackett: (mac/permissions) You need to open Applications, go to Utilities, open Terminal, and run the following command (assuming you put Minecraft into Applications):
#1759 [14:54] <VoxelHead> jcsackett: (mac/permissions) chmod +x /Applications/Minecraft.app/Contents/MacOS/JavaApplicationStub
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#1761 [14:55] <Morrolan> As far as I know this would cause it to bounce once or twice, and then disappear.
#1762 [14:55] <lena88> do you mean pay for a new name or make a whole new account
#1763 [14:55] <Wug> lena88: can
#1764 [14:56] <jcsackett> GreyVulpine: Just lion, not mountain. Morrolan: thanks! +x fixed it!
#1765 [14:56] <Wug> can't you just change your gamertags name
#1766 [14:56] <lena88> not without having to pay for it
#1767 [14:56] <Morrolan> jcsackett - Good to hear. :)
#1768 [14:56] <Wug> reset the controls again, just to be sure
#1769 [14:57] <lena88> still the same issue
#1770 [14:57] <lena88> im on hold for xbox they are gonna see if my game was hacked
#1771 [14:57] <lena88> cause i cant figure it out at all
#1772 [14:57] <lena88> and id be very upset to loose all my work
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#1776 [15:02] <a-st> Hello and Good Evening to everyone! ;)
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#1780 [15:03] <a-st> Does anybody know what causes this problem? http://ompldr.org/vZjhpeA
#1781 [15:03] <LittleCarrot24> can i play mine craft on a mac
#1782 [15:04] <a-st> LittleCarrot24: Yeah why not? Just install Java ;)
#1783 [15:04] <Wug> LittleCarrot24: yes
#1784 [15:04] <LittleCarrot24> i did and it won't let me
#1785 [15:04] <Wug> a-st: graphics drivers?
#1786 [15:04] <LittleCarrot24> ???
#1787 [15:04] <Wug> LittleCarrot24: what does it do
#1788 [15:05] <LittleCarrot24> screen goes white
#1789 [15:05] <Wug> also if we're speaking to someone else we'll say their name
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#1791 [15:05] <LittleCarrot24> aug screen goes white
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#1793 [15:05] <abbiek> my account says that i bought the game but when i try to log in it says not premium. please help me?
#1794 [15:05] <a-st> Wug: Oh sorry I forgot to mention. I'm running Mincecraft on an x86_64 Arch Linux with nouveau driver
#1795 [15:05] <Wug> abbiek: whats your account name
#1796 [15:06] <Wug> a-st: in that case, its definitely a driver issue
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#1799 [15:06] <a-st> Wug: So it's related to the opensource nvidia driver?
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#1801 [15:06] <Wug> a-st: probably
#1802 [15:06] <Wug> I'd google around and try to find info about which versions (if any) work
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#1804 [15:08] <oldtopman> a-st: I would download the proper nvidia driver, it's a *lot* faster than nouveau if you have a card.
#1805 [15:09] <a-st> okay, i'm installing nvidia driver right now ;)
#1806 [15:09] <a-st> Then going to reboot and see what happens :D
#1807 [15:09] <Morrolan> Remove the opensource driver after having installed the proprietary one.
#1808 [15:09] <Morrolan> Wouldn't want those two fighting.
#1809 [15:09] <a-st> okay i'll be back in a sec. Hopefully :D
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#1812 [15:12] <oldtopman> Morrolan: The closed one automatically disables nouveau, then it restarts and finishes the installation.
#1813 [15:12] <oldtopman> Themore you know =======*
#1814 [15:12] <Morrolan> Oh, how intelligent.
#1815 [15:15] <Morrolan> (Wasn't meant ironically, by the way, even though it looks as if it was, now that I read it again ^^)
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#1830 [15:40] <RCx10> Well I have a server running on creative mode and it's containing monsters...
#1831 [15:40] <RCx10> I set spawn monsters to false
#1832 [15:40] <RCx10> and spawn npcs to flase
#1833 [15:40] <RCx10> what should i do
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#1836 [15:44] <RCx10> helo?
#1837 [15:44] <RCx10> hello*
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#1840 [15:47] <RCx10> can anyone help?
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#1844 [15:49] <RCx10> ...
#1845 [15:50] <lutzee> You haven't really explained the problem, you are saying mobs spawn even when the settings say not to?
#1846 [15:50] <lutzee> Also, id you restart the server after you made the change?
#1847 [15:50] <RCx10> yeah
#1848 [15:50] <RCx10> yes
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#1850 [15:50] <RCx10> nothin worked
#1851 [15:51] <RCx10> the monsters are still there at night
#1852 [15:52] <lutzee> um, what program are you using to edit the file?
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#1855 [15:53] <relic> Where are the item sprites / textures stored? My chests are invisible, but everything else is normal.
#1856 [15:54] <lutzee> relic, hmm, do you have a texture pack loaded?
#1857 [15:55] <relic> I'm using default texture pack, but with tekkit and "all the mods" :)
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#1859 [15:55] <lutzee> ?? mods
#1860 [15:55] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#1861 [15:55] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
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#1863 [15:55] <lutzee> Ask on the tekkit forums
#1864 [15:56] <relic> Not looking for a solution, I just want to know where the sprites are stored so I can modify them
#1865 [15:56] <lutzee> well in the jar file
#1866 [15:57] <lutzee> But chances are, they are fine, even if you edit them, they probably won't show
#1867 [15:57] <relic> ok, thanks
#1868 [15:57] <relic> I'd looked around in the hidden .minecraft file and wasn't sure if I was just missing them
#1869 [15:57] <relic> ok
#1870 [15:57] <relic> thank you!
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#1878 [16:18] <hanne> my minecraft just stand loading, it says it's done loading but it just stand there... i have not bought the game
#1879 [16:21] <hanne> and i'm new in the pc game, but i play on my iPod and iPad,
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#1882 [16:32] <lutzee> hanne, you can only play the game at minecraft.net/demo
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#1884 [16:33] <lutzee> s/game/demo/
#1885 [16:34] <hanne> i can't find it..
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#1887 [16:35] <hanne> dosen't work
#1888 [16:35] <lutzee> Then theres a problem with your java install, or you need to tell it to let java run
#1889 [16:35] <lutzee> one of the two
#1890 [16:36] <hanne> tthat make sense, thanks!
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#1892 [16:37] <a-st> heyho!
#1893 [16:37] <a-st> just wanted to tell you that everything works fine with proprietary NVIDIA drivers ;)
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#1895 [16:37] <hanne> what's tahat?
#1896 [16:38] <lutzee> a-st, that's great have fun :)
#1897 [16:38] <lutzee> hanne, nothing you need to worry about
#1898 [16:38] <frederik298> How can i play mine craft using apple osx lion?
#1899 [16:38] <hanne> oki
#1900 [16:39] <a-st> ;)
#1901 [16:39] <a-st> Thank you very much :D
#1902 [16:39] <frederik298> Can someone tell me?
#1903 [16:39] <hanne> frederik298 you have to install it on your mac
#1904 [16:39] <frederik298> I know
#1905 [16:39] <a-st> Sad that it's not working with the open source drivers
#1906 [16:39] <lutzee> frederik298, what's happening when you try to run the app?
#1907 [16:40] <frederik298> He blocks him.
#1908 [16:40] <lutzee> hm
#1909 [16:40] <lutzee> ?? mac/gatekeeper
#1910 [16:40] <VoxelHead> mac/gatekeeper: Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#1911 [16:40] <DiskDaemon> ?? mac/gatekeeper
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#1913 [16:41] <frederik298> Thnx voxelhead, ill try to install it again ;)
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#1916 [16:45] <a-st> Apple sucks btw ;)
#1917 [16:45] <lutzee> We know..
#1918 [16:45] <hanne> when i click on try demo, everything that comes up is some sentence and the button that says that i can buy it... nothing else...
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#1920 [16:46] <frederik298> Thnx, voxelhead! its works perfect!!!
#1921 [16:46] <lutzee> have fun frederik298 :)
#1922 [16:46] <frederik298> cya!
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#1930 [16:54] <hoppsy2003> hi all...when loading up the game it comes up updating, on the green bar it says done loading but it doesnt load up !!! help please !!!!
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#1932 [16:56] <hoppsy2003> hi all...when loading up the game it comes up updating, on the green bar it says done loading but it doesnt load up !!! help please !!!!
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#1935 [16:57] <hoppsy2003> hi all...when loading up the game it comes up updating, on the green bar it says done loading but it doesnt load up !!! help please !!!!
#1936 [16:57] <hoppsy2003> hi all...when loading up the game it comes up updating, on the green bar it says done loading but it doesnt load up !!! help please !!!!
#1937 [16:58] <lutzee> ?? dont/repeat
#1938 [16:58] <VoxelHead> dont/repeat: There is absolutely no need to repeat messages in IRC. Messages do not 'expire' and unless there is a lot of conversation, your message is not going anywhere.
#1939 [16:58] <VoxelHead> dont/repeat: Failure to follow this rule is very irritating, clouds the chat, and is almost certain you get you kicked for spamming.
#1940 [16:59] <hoppsy2003> will some one help me please
#1941 [16:59] <lutzee> playing the demo?
#1942 [17:00] <hoppsy2003> no full game and i dont have any antivirus
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#1945 [17:02] <lutzee> hoppsy2003, what's your in game name?
#1946 [17:02] <hoppsy2003> hoppsy2003
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#1948 [17:03] <lutzee> !paid hoppsy2003
#1949 [17:03] <lutzee> okay
#1950 [17:03] <lutzee> something is blocking minecraft
#1951 [17:03] <hoppsy2003> i bought the game 2 nights ago and worked fine, but now it wont let me on
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#1954 [17:08] <hoppsy2003> i dnt have anti virus and disabled the firewall so i have no idea why it wont load up fully
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#1956 [17:11] <DiskDaemon> Try it from safe mode + networking. If that works, you know that it's caoused by a program that you have running on your computer
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#1959 [17:17] <Gnadenschuss1> hello
#1960 [17:17] <Gnadenschuss1> is here an admin
#1961 [17:17] <Gnadenschuss1> ??
#1962 [17:18] <DiskDaemon> how can we help?
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#1964 [17:18] <Gnadenschuss1> i Have Bought Minecraft at 20oclock (germantime) and i can´t play now online
#1965 [17:19] * PhoneBook is now known as :PhoneAFK
#1966 [17:19] <Gnadenschuss1> " Thank you for purchasing Minecraft! Your status should update within the hour. " but nothing happens
#1967 [17:20] <DiskDaemon> Can you play it in singleplayer?
#1968 [17:20] <Gnadenschuss1> no
#1969 [17:20] <Gnadenschuss1> i can play only the demo
#1970 [17:20] <DiskDaemon> What is your minecraft username?
#1971 [17:21] <Gnadenschuss1> Gnadenschuss
#1972 [17:21] <DiskDaemon> !paid Gnadenschuss
#1973 [17:21] <DiskDaemon> This article from Mojang may be of some help then http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1974 [17:21] <Gnadenschuss1> 4e924011a0a94dba8aaafeac2fdb4d63
#1975 [17:22] <DiskDaemon> That looks like a receipt. Keep in mind though that receipts are given even for failed attempts to pay.
#1976 [17:23] <DiskDaemon> Check your bank - if no payment is shown there, you haven't paid.
#1977 [17:23] <Gnadenschuss1> hmm but i pay whit EC
#1978 [17:24] <Gnadenschuss1> whit debit
#1979 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> what is EC?
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#1982 [17:24] <DiskDaemon> This article is still relevant for you. Please read it. http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#1983 [17:24] <Gnadenschuss1> wenn you go to buy minecraft and chose germany by the country and there
#1984 [17:25] <Gnadenschuss1> i have read 1-3 days
#1985 [17:25] <Gnadenschuss1> but i can´t wait now
#1986 [17:25] <Boreeas> Why can't you wait?
#1987 [17:26] <Gnadenschuss1> i want play now original minecraft not fucking crackd
#1988 [17:26] * AuBot kicked Gnadenschuss1 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: nadenschuss1 :Please keep it civil.)
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#1991 [17:26] <Gnadenschuss1> crackd ist not the real i want play online on the official server
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#1993 [17:27] <DiskDaemon> ??> Gnadenschuss1 attitude
#1994 [17:28] <VoxelHead> Gnadenschuss1: (attitude) The people in #MineCraftHelp offering assistance have no affiliation with Mojang, and are volunteering their time. Please treat them, and #MineCraftHelp, with respect.
#1995 [17:28] <VoxelHead> Gnadenschuss1: (attitude) In short, the more of a jerk you are, the lower-priority your questions will be. We are not the Mojang complaint department.
#1996 [17:28] <Boreeas> Gnadenschuss1: So you wait one more day
#1997 [17:28] <Gnadenschuss1> okay -.-
#1998 [17:28] <Boreeas> Be patient, everyone else was too
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#2000 [17:29] <Gilded_Knight> you guys have the coolest bots
#2001 [17:30] <DiskDaemon> My favourite is the minspecs response
#2002 [17:30] <DiskDaemon> ?? minspecs
#2003 [17:30] <VoxelHead> minspecs: There is no software magic that can make your hardware meet the minimum specifications that are required by the game.
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#2007 [17:34] <Gilded_Knight> o.o what are the minimum specs of MC?
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#2010 [17:34] <Boreeas> 24 GB of RAM, 3.9 GHz 12 core CPU, and a high-grade video card
#2011 [17:35] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-what-are-the-system-requirements-
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#2013 [17:35] <daniel_fernandes> hello
#2014 [17:36] <daniel_fernandes> does anyone need help?
#2015 [17:36] <daniel_fernandes> i will assist you
#2016 [17:36] <Gilded_Knight> my graphics card is apparently min specs o.o
#2017 [17:36] <Gilded_Knight> well...
#2018 [17:36] <TheMouldyMarsBar> 2GB ram minimum for minecraft? it runs fine with 512MB.
#2019 [17:37] <Gilded_Knight> i got 12 gigs :3
#2020 [17:37] <Boreeas> TheMouldyMarsBar: Part of that will be taken by the OS and other programs
#2021 [17:37] <lutzee> TheMouldyMarsBar, 2gb minimum for the PC... other things use ram too
#2022 [17:37] <TheMouldyMarsBar> I know that.
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#2024 [17:38] <Gilded_Knight> my card is 5800... why does rec need 9xxx...
#2025 [17:38] <lutzee> 9xxx is probably older, you have a radeon HD 5800 i guess?
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#2027 [17:40] <Gilded_Knight> yes
#2028 [17:43] <lutzee> yeah you should be perfectly fine
#2029 [17:44] <Gilded_Knight> well i run it fine i just found it odd
#2030 [17:45] <Gilded_Knight> i hate the numbering systems for erverything
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#2033 [17:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Well hello guys.
#2034 [17:48] <TheMouldyMarsBar> Hi.
#2035 [17:49] <CrusaderDeleters> I found out why everythings so crashy like it is.
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#2041 [18:04] <maxfighter011> hi there
#2042 [18:04] <maxfighter011> i have problemes with my minecraft
#2043 [18:04] <PhoneAFK> Elaborate
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#2045 [18:05] <maxfighter011> when i go in multiplayer it loads about a minute and when i want to join server it loads 1 mintute again.
#2046 [18:05] <maxfighter011> i have restarted the laptop and deinstalled .minecraft
#2047 [18:05] <PhoneBook> What version of Java do you have?
#2048 [18:05] <maxfighter011> whats the problem
#2049 [18:06] <maxfighter011> idk
#2050 [18:06] <maxfighter011> the newest
#2051 [18:06] <maxfighter011> ithink
#2052 [18:06] <PhoneBook> Downgrade to the latest version of Java 6
#2053 [18:06] <PhoneBook> Java 7 has problems with Minecraft.
#2054 [18:06] <maxfighter011> okay
#2055 [18:06] <maxfighter011> how can i downgrade it?
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#2057 [18:07] <PhoneBook> Go to your Control Panel
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#2065 [18:23] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: what was it
#2066 [18:23] <Wug> PhoneBook: java 7 works fine
#2067 [18:23] <CrusaderDeleters> The ram.
#2068 [18:24] <Wug> there are sometimes issues with old installations of 6 not wanting to let go
#2069 [18:24] <CrusaderDeleters> First test: ~330k failed, 0 passed.
#2070 [18:24] <Wug> that tend to only manifest when 7 is in use
#2071 [18:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Second test: First byte passed, everything else was failing.
#2072 [18:24] <Wug> CrusaderDeleters: reseat+clean
#2073 [18:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Reseat?
#2074 [18:25] <Wug> its a glorified "pull it out, blow on it, put it back in"
#2075 [18:25] <Wug> obviously the process is a bit more controlled
#2076 [18:25] <CrusaderDeleters> Already tried that.
#2077 [18:25] <Wug> if that doesnt do it, the ram might be dead.
#2078 [18:25] <CrusaderDeleters> The n64 cartridge didn't work.
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#2080 [18:25] <CrusaderDeleters> The ram had crappy reviews with intel.
#2081 [18:26] <Wug> check for scratched contacts
#2082 [18:26] <Wug> if there are none of those (i.e. the problem was not installer error) you will be able to send it back for a replacement
#2083 [18:26] <CrusaderDeleters> You mean vertical slips?
#2084 [18:27] <Wug> thats not terminology im familiar with
#2085 [18:27] <Wug> google isnt either.
#2086 [18:27] <CrusaderDeleters> One moment
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#2088 [18:28] <CrusaderDeleters> Well
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#2091 [18:29] <CrusaderDeleters> You know how there's the duller part, then you see the crevice
#2092 [18:29] <CrusaderDeleters> Do you mean that as scratches?
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#2095 [18:32] <honeybash> hello?
#2096 [18:32] <honeybash> :L
#2097 [18:33] <lutzee> Hey
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#2099 [18:34] <Wug> they wear a little bit normally as you use them
#2100 [18:34] <Wug> and by use I mean seat and reseat
#2101 [18:34] <Wug> generally if you peel one off though, you're boned
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#2114 [19:11] <Anson> hallo ... i bought MC and also got the premium status, but for many hours now, i get problems on downloading: "minecraft_exe couldn't be downloaded" (with _ instead of a dot). same problem for Minecraft_Server_exe, and also for the skin template char.png (suddenly could get that one an hour ago after dozens of identical tries)
#2115 [19:13] <AmberK|PingIfNeeded> Anson try #minecrafthelp
#2116 [19:13] <Anson> btw: before i bought MC, and maybe also until short time ago, the videos on the "how to play" page were only empty white frames. now they work properly.
#2117 [19:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Amberk
#2118 [19:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Where do you think we are?
#2119 [19:13] <Anson> this isn't #minecrafthelp ?????
#2120 [19:13] <CrusaderDeleters> Anson: This is.
#2121 [19:13] <CrusaderDeleters> AmberK|PingIfNeeded: This IS minecrafthelp.
#2122 [19:14] <AmberK|PingIfNeeded> oh im an idiot ignore me
#2123 [19:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#2124 [19:14] <AmberK|PingIfNeeded> minecrafthelp is right next to minecraftforums on my irc
#2125 [19:14] <CrusaderDeleters> Lol
#2126 [19:14] <Anson> anyway, can anybody help me with the download problem ?
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#2128 [19:15] <CrusaderDeleters> Anson, what exactly does it say|do?
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#2131 [19:17] <psnd> hi. F11 makes the game close, but *it used to be able to fullscreen without a problem*. what gives?
#2132 [19:17] <Anson> when i try downloading "Minecraft.exe", it asks whether to save or open "Minecraft.exe" ... i say "save to", and my browser tells me "Minecraft_exe couldn't be downloaded"
#2133 [19:17] * AmberK|PingIfNeeded is now known as :AmberK|DontPing
#2134 [19:17] <CrusaderDeleters> Anson,try to use another browser. What browser do you currently use?
#2135 [19:18] <Anson> sorry, it already asks me whether to save or open "Minecraft_exe" (with the underline)
#2136 [19:18] <CrusaderDeleters> Hrm, so it's not Minecraft.exe?
#2137 [19:18] <Anson> IE9
#2138 [19:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Ech. I don't like IE
#2139 [19:19] <CrusaderDeleters> https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft.exe
#2140 [19:19] <CrusaderDeleters> Btw, there's the download.
#2141 [19:20] <Anson> exactly the same happened with the char skin template ... "char_skin couldn't be downloaded" for hours in a row, but finally it sometime asked me whether to save "char.png" and it worked
#2142 [19:21] <CrusaderDeleters> Anson: Internet Explorer likes to be a derp like that. You can download and install FireFox or Chrome.
#2143 [19:22] <Anson> i just clicked your link ... same bad result with the "_"
#2144 [19:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Are you able to click "Save as"?
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#2147 [19:23] <Kanegasi> ??> Anson win/ie
#2148 [19:23] <VoxelHead> Anson: (win/ie) Internet Exploder^WExploiter^WExplorer is a terrible browser with terrible issues. Many common problems are solved by using a better browser.
#2149 [19:23] <VoxelHead> Anson: (win/ie) Firefox: http://www.mozilla.org/firefox/ Google Chrome: http://www.google.com/chrome
#2150 [19:23] <Anson> yes, save or save as ... and it suggests the name with _ for the save ... i tried changing it to MC.exe, but didn't help
#2151 [19:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Anson: Attempt for Firefox or Chrome
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#2153 [19:28] <psnd> at one time i had working fullscreen, but now f11 crashes it. what changed?
#2154 [19:28] <CrusaderDeleters> PSND, What exactly happens?
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#2156 [19:29] <psnd> the program closes
#2157 [19:31] <awe_some_1> Minecraft isn't loading. I have an error message "Failed to start minecraft org.lwjgl.LWGLExeption:pixel format not accelerated" how do I fix this?
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#2159 [19:31] <lutzee> awe_some_1, update your graphics drivers, do you know what graphics chip you are using?
#2160 [19:31] <awe_some_1> I have no Idea
#2161 [19:32] <lutzee> ??> awe_some_1 win/dxdiag
#2162 [19:32] <VoxelHead> awe_some_1: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2163 [19:32] <VoxelHead> awe_some_1: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2166 [19:35] <awe_some_1> ok I have the diag. tol open
#2167 [19:35] <AnsonMobile> just switched my irc... will install another browser now om my comp
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#2172 [19:39] <awe_some_1> http://pastebin.com/qs4CxdX5
#2173 [19:40] <lutzee> er
#2174 [19:40] <awe_some_1> did get it lutzee
#2175 [19:40] <awe_some_1> or I should say did I do that right?
#2176 [19:41] <lutzee> You did it right...
#2177 [19:41] <lutzee> but according to it you have no graphics driver what so ever >.>
#2178 [19:41] <lutzee> only a super basic graphics chip..
#2179 [19:41] <DiskDaemon> It should be a ATI Radeon HD 2400 Pro
#2180 [19:42] <awe_some_1> ok??? My sons Sanyo tv is his monitor would that matter?
#2181 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> That seems to be standard for a dell dxc061
#2182 [19:42] <lutzee> thanks disk, you google faster than me :p
#2183 [19:42] <DiskDaemon> I believe that the computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements for the game.
#2184 [19:43] <awe_some_1> he has a Dell xps 210
#2185 [19:43] <lutzee> oh...
#2186 [19:44] <lutzee> We assumed you were on the PC that was having problems
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#2188 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> The dxdiag report states: "System Model: Dell DXC061"
#2189 [19:44] <DiskDaemon> Ahh, a different machine
#2190 [19:44] <awe_some_1> ok well I guess he will continue to play Minecraft on his Ipod.
#2191 [19:45] <awe_some_1> Oh I am on the desktop. That s what it has on the front of it
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#2193 [19:46] <superkabii> !check
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#2195 [19:46] <superkabii> !check 71.237.142.169
#2196 [19:46] <lutzee> too fast superkabii
#2197 [19:46] <superkabii> ah
#2198 [19:46] <superkabii> normally I just PM wugbot when people ask me these things, but he seems to be AWOL.
#2199 [19:47] <CrusaderDeleters> AWOL?
#2200 [19:47] <CrusaderDeleters> !check 71.237.142.169
#2201 [19:47] <CrusaderDeleters> Doesn't seem modified enough.
#2202 [19:47] <lutzee> anyway, it seems that the xps 210 uses the G965 chipset with a Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3000
#2203 [19:47] <lutzee> CrusaderDeleters, AWOL= away without leave, :p
#2204 [19:48] <CrusaderDeleters> Oh
#2205 [19:48] <pr3dator727> Hi, has anyone else had the problem where the launcher tries to update the files, but it crashes and turns to a black screen? It said my Java system was out of date, I updated it and now it says that my driver software is out of date, yet I checked on the driver site and my own system, and everything is up to date.
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#2207 [19:49] <awe_some_1> So I am confused. I am using the computer with the problem so why does it show on the Diag. one thing and the computer its self another?
#2208 [19:49] <awe_some_1> any way so should I try updating that chip or no????+
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#2213 [19:53] <lutzee> ??> awe_some_1 gpu/intel
#2214 [19:53] <VoxelHead> awe_some_1: (gpu/intel) You can get drivers for Intel video cards and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/
#2215 [19:53] <lutzee> You should be able to find the right drivers for the laptop there ^
#2216 [19:57] <awe_some_1> k thanks everyone for all your help.
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#2218 [19:58] <PhoneBook> No problem! Even though I didn't do squat
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#2220 [19:58] <PhoneBook> lutzee deserves +v <3
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#2223 [20:00] <lutzee> PhoneBook, i wish :p
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#2229 [20:16] <Kanegasi> i have a little weird bug. whenever i start minecraft with pandora running, minecraft gets no sound, but if i start it with pandora not running, there is sound. i then can start pandora after and get both
#2230 [20:16] <Kanegasi> i thought it was the priority checkboxes in the sound device settings in windows, but those do nothing
#2231 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: Did you uncheck the "Allow Applications to own (or something) this device"?
#2232 [20:26] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: not on English windows, no idea what the translation is
#2233 [20:26] <Kanegasi> i unchecked both
#2234 [20:26] <Kanegasi> still happens
#2235 [20:27] <Kanegasi> thing is, minecraft is the only thing that does that. chrome, wow, and other programs play along pandora just fine, but minecraft somehow gets bullied out
#2236 [20:27] <Kanegasi> i still get both if i start minecraft first though
#2237 [20:31] <tyteen4a03> Kanegasi: could either be java or pandora's problem, I don't have an idea right now
#2238 [20:32] <Kanegasi> thank you anyways for thinking about it. pandora is ran by adobe air btw
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#2242 [20:39] <burntfrieser> how do i down grade my minecraft/
#2243 [20:39] <lutzee> ?? oldversion
#2244 [20:39] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#2245 [20:40] <burntfrieser> ok what about using older versions on windows 7 ive seen people do that to how does that work?
#2246 [20:40] <lutzee> They either, haven't updated, had their own backups, or used MCnostalgia
#2247 [20:41] <burntfrieser> ok thanks
#2248 [20:41] <burntfrieser> and would you answer a general question about the classic version that you probably have an answer for?
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#2250 [20:42] <lutzee> burntfrieser, i have no clue about classic
#2251 [20:42] <burntfrieser> oh, have you had any reports about like alot of servers crashing or being down at all?
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#2253 [20:43] <lutzee> Servers are hosted by the community, even classic (that much i do know)
#2254 [20:43] <burntfrieser> ok thanks for your help
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#2260 [20:57] <popcorn9499> i was wondering why my minecraft isnt working
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#2262 [20:58] <popcorn9499> ir crashes when i try to use my server for more than 2 min
#2263 [20:58] <Deleters> Any crashlogS?
#2264 [20:59] <popcorn9499> yea i was told it was my drivers so i updated but it didnt help i use the launcher multimc version 3 and 4
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#2267 [20:59] <CrusaderDeleters> May I see the crashlogs?
#2268 [21:00] <popcorn9499> yes
#2269 [21:00] <popcorn9499> http://pastebin.com/DTzQG0F4
#2270 [21:00] <popcorn9499> here
#2271 [21:01] <popcorn9499> is the hs_err_pid7924 error
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#2273 [21:02] <CrusaderDeleters> ??> popcorn9499 win/dxdiag
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#2275 [21:02] <VoxelHead> popcorn9499: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2276 [21:02] <VoxelHead> popcorn9499: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#2277 [21:02] <popcorn9499> ok
#2278 [21:02] <popcorn9499> just a min
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#2280 [21:03] <popcorn9499> http://pastebin.com/cGbKa3R1
#2281 [21:03] <popcorn9499> here
#2282 [21:04] <popcorn9499> is that dxdiag
#2283 [21:04] <popcorn9499> win/dxdiag
#2284 [21:04] <popcorn9499> i did
#2285 [21:05] <popcorn9499> i use 1.2.5
#2286 [21:06] <popcorn9499> dont think there is much of difference it was working then it stopped after the login change\
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#2288 [21:08] <popcorn9499> what u think
#2289 [21:08] <popcorn9499> deleters
#2290 [21:08] <popcorn9499> deleters
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#2294 [21:15] <RAINCAT> i can't open in browser?
#2295 [21:16] <RAINCAT> all I get is a white screen after javascript runs?
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#2300 [21:21] <ImRuby> is there an administrator online? i cant register on the forums.
#2301 [21:22] <GreyVulpine> Try asking in #minecraftforums
#2302 [21:22] <ImRuby> ohh okay
#2303 [21:22] <ImRuby> ohh okay
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#2307 [21:29] <lester_> help i forgot the answers to the security questions
#2308 [21:30] <GreyVulpine> As we are community-based support, we have no access to account information. You'll need to contact Mojang directly for support
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#2310 [21:30] <lester_> how can I contact them directly?
#2311 [21:31] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#2312 [21:31] <DiskDaemon> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2314 [21:32] <DiskDaemon> pardon - /me seems to have some lag issues
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#2317 [21:35] <concon230404> i have this on my ipad but have just brought the full version for my son on our laptop but he is getting very annoyed as his person and sheep are black can anyone help us as i have no idea about any of this
#2318 [21:37] <DiskDaemon> Is that because you're playing on a world that was created on the other device?
#2319 [21:37] <Scott> sounds like a graphics problem.
#2320 [21:39] <concon230404> i dont think so its all new on here no worlds from other devices, how do i sort a graphic probablem out........ hes driving me mad!!!!!!
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#2322 [21:41] <AK_ElephantTusk> Alright, a long while back I had minecraft on this account. After my computer messed up I hadn't played it since. Now I log onto my account to find it doesn't have minecraft as puchaced anymore and I can't play online or download it anymore.
#2323 [21:42] <AK_ElephantTusk> Wut do?
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#2327 [21:54] <downgrade> how do i downgrade my minecrafdt?
#2328 [21:54] <downgrade> frafrweeoj6T
#2329 [21:55] <downgrade> HELLO?
#2330 [21:55] <downgrade> how do i die in minecraft?
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#2332 [21:55] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#2333 [21:55] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
#2334 [21:55] <downgrade> i need it for the portalgun mod LOL
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#2338 [21:57] <downgrade> finished
#2339 [21:57] <downgrade> EPAC
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#2341 [21:57] <downgrade> E-PACMAN
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#2343 [21:58] <downgrade> who wants to play pac-man on minecraft?
#2344 [21:58] <Uta4774> ...?
#2345 [21:58] <downgrade> or minecraft in minecraft in minecraft in minecraft
#2346 [21:58] <downgrade> MINECEPTION
#2347 [21:59] <downgrade> How do i die in minecraft?
#2348 [21:59] <downgrade> my account isn't becoming premium
#2349 [21:59] <downgrade> HEELLLLOOO???!!!
#2350 [21:59] <downgrade> Bye
#2351 [21:59] <DiskDaemon> quite easily
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#2353 [22:01] <Uta4774> um does anyone know the answer to my question? --- I bought minecraft about 3/4 of the month ago and when i try to log in, it always says cannot connect to Minecraft.net, and on top of that, when i play offline, i cant play official servers
#2354 [22:02] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Some weird firewall problem, perhaps?
#2355 [22:02] <Uta4774> I have a mac
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#2357 [22:02] <FLHerne> Uta4774: ?
#2358 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> There can be several causes as to why someone can't connect to minecraft.
#2359 [22:02] <DiskDaemon> Can we try to get a crash report? http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crash#How_to_Get_a_Crash_Report
#2360 [22:03] <Uta4774> ...? k
#2361 [22:03] <Uta4774> oh yeah and i never got a .minecraft folder when i downloaded it
#2362 [22:04] <FLHerne> Uta4774: That gets created when it downloads the rest of the files from minecraft.net, so same problem :P
#2363 [22:05] <Uta4774> oh okay :/
#2364 [22:05] <Uta4774> well my Minecraft doesnt shut down completely. I just cant play normal servers, that is my main issue
#2365 [22:06] <Uta4774> along with the .Minecraft folder
#2366 [22:06] <FLHerne> So you don't have a .minecraft folder, but you can axtually play?
#2367 [22:06] <GreyVulpine> Can't play without a .minecraft folder
#2368 [22:07] <Uta4774> well.... what i use now is MinecraftSP to actually play play, but i have the real Minecraft, but i can only play single player
#2369 [22:07] <GreyVulpine> MinecraftSP is a cracked, illegal single player launcher
#2370 [22:07] <Uta4774> i know but thats the only way i can play ONE minecraft server
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#2372 [22:09] <Uta4774> Would a problem be an internet protection?
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#2374 [22:09] <GreyVulpine> That's one possibility
#2375 [22:09] <Uta4774> like preferences on how secure the interent is
#2376 [22:09] <FLHerne> In a Terminal window, does 'ping minecraft.net' work?
#2377 [22:09] <Uta4774> ? ping?
#2378 [22:10] <FLHerne> As in: Open Terminal, type 'ping minecraft.net' , press enter :P
#2379 [22:10] <FLHerne> 'ping' being a program to test network connections
#2380 [22:12] <Uta4774> a terminal?
#2381 [22:13] <FLHerne> It's a program. Try using whatever the OSX search thing is now ;-)
#2382 [22:14] <Uta4774> im stupid with technology so you have to dumb it down a lot xD
#2383 [22:15] <FLHerne> Sorry, forgot that Macs hide all that stuff now :P . Haven't used it since 10.4 or so :P
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#2385 [22:16] <Uta4774> ah
#2386 [22:16] <Uta4774> if... i change the internet protection to something, do u think it will help?
#2387 [22:17] <Soz> How do I "right click" in order to build? I have Mac.
#2388 [22:17] <Uta4774> hit the right clicker thing on the mouse
#2389 [22:18] <Timmooo> Or if you use a trackpad use two fingers
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#2391 [22:18] <DiskDaemon> Some macs can have trouble with right-click - you can assign a key if you like to the Use command instead in the Options area.
#2392 [22:18] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Afraid I don't know. If you can access the Minecraft website with a browser, it might.
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#2394 [22:19] <Uta4774> i want to see if it works brb
#2395 [22:19] <Timmooo> Uta4774: In your spotlight search for terminal :)
#2396 [22:19] <Timmooo> You can open it from there
#2397 [22:20] <Uta4774> was i supposed to click on the thing that says terminal? lol
#2398 [22:20] * FLHerne needs to get better at explaining things :-(
#2398 [22:21] <Timmooo> Yes ^^
#2399 [22:21] <Uta4774> xD
#2400 [22:21] <Timmooo> Terminal is a program, altenratively you can find it in Applications then Utilities
#2401 [22:22] <Uta4774> its open
#2402 [22:22] <FLHerne> That should give you a boring-looking window with a line like: francis@HP ~ $
#2403 [22:22] <Timmooo> Now type: ping -c 5 minecraft.net
#2404 [22:22] <Uta4774> and the security did nothing
#2405 [22:23] <Timmooo> If its working you should get something like this: http://pastebin.com/kr9Dk1SY
#2406 [22:24] <AnsonMobile> how low should the ping be to work well? mine is 200-400, average 280
#2407 [22:24] <Timmooo> I don't know what security it is <.<'
#2408 [22:24] <Uta4774> it looks liket hat
#2409 [22:24] <Timmooo> ping to minecraft.net shouldn't matter too much afaik as it only really uses it for logging into your account?
#2410 [22:25] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Aark. Less obvious bug then :-(
#2411 [22:25] <FLHerne> Timmooo: You missed the original problem :P
#2412 [22:25] <Timmooo> I did :p
#2413 [22:25] <Uta4774> ?
#2414 [22:25] <Timmooo> Hence my bumbling around ^.^
#2415 [22:25] <AnsonMobile> ah... thought it also would be for some server
#2416 [22:25] <Timmooo> My last response was @ AnsonMobile
#2417 [22:26] <Timmooo> AnsonMobile: Yea, your ping to a server could matter
#2418 [22:26] <Uta4774> wait wait wait
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#2420 [22:26] <Timmooo> But it should work fine around that
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#2422 [22:26] <Uta4774> Wait wait wati Wait wait
#2423 [22:26] <Timmooo> At least I have no problems with more than that
#2424 [22:26] <Timmooo> o.o
#2425 [22:26] * Timmooo waits
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#2426 [22:26] <Uta4774> its suppoed to match exactly?
#2427 [22:27] <Uta4774> like number-wise
#2428 [22:27] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Not really. SImilar is normal
#2429 [22:27] <Uta4774> oh okay.... nvm then
#2430 [22:27] <Timmooo> Nope
#2431 [22:27] <mack> I have purchased the game and am trying to download but all i get is a black screen....
#2432 [22:27] <Uta4774> hmmm
#2433 [22:28] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Probably some firewall issue then. Might be on your router instead of the Mac.
#2434 [22:28] <Uta4774> i have a lot of 74.5's for time... is it supposed to be close at least to the other numbers?
#2435 [22:28] <Uta4774> dumb it down ._.
#2436 [22:28] <Timmooo> Nope, means you have a better ping than me is all
#2437 [22:29] <Timmooo> You have a better connection to the mc servers than me
#2438 [22:29] <FLHerne> That's how long (in milliseconds) it takes to contact the server at minecraft.net ;-)
#2439 [22:29] <Uta4774> oooh
#2440 [22:29] <Uta4774> it only does that cuz it doesnt even try to connect xD
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#2442 [22:29] <Uta4774> its just like "oh wutever you cant connect"
#2443 [22:30] <FLHerne> But it also shows that you can connect to it in general, which would suggest some annoying firewall problem :P
#2444 [22:30] <Uta4774> hmmm.... wut firewall tho. Isnt that a virus blocker?
#2445 [22:30] <FLHerne> Try starting minecraft from the terminal, perhaps? Then you can check what it's doing...
#2446 [22:30] * FLHerne looks up how to do that with a Mac
#2446 [22:30] <Uta4774> idk how to do that
#2447 [22:31] <Uta4774> xD
#2448 [22:31] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Firewalls are good at blocking viruses etc from accessing the internet, but if they think Minecraft is a virus they can block that too :P
#2449 [22:31] <Uta4774> thnx u guys for the help btw
#2450 [22:31] <Uta4774> oooohhh
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#2452 [22:32] <Uta4774> okay then.... lemmie mess around a sec
#2453 [22:33] <FLHerne> Anyone know which ports Minecraft uses?
#2454 [22:33] <Timmooo> The server?
#2455 [22:33] <Timmooo> Or the client?
#2456 [22:33] <Timmooo> <.<'
#2457 [22:34] <Timmooo> All I know is the default server port is 25565
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#2459 [22:34] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: Firewalls are almost useless in most cases
#2460 [22:34] <Uta4774> i looked up in spotlight, i dont have Fireall
#2461 [22:35] <AnsonMobile> i still didn't install a new browser... trying to find what happens on my comp while downloading a patch of several GB in the backgroundd
#2462 [22:35] <FLHerne> Timmooo: Well, to authenticate with/download files from minecraft.net :P
#2463 [22:35] <tyteen4a03> Uta4774: Mountain Lion?
#2464 [22:35] <Timmooo> ah
#2465 [22:35] <Timmooo> no clue then ._.'
#2466 [22:35] <FLHerne> Uta4774: I assume OSX has some firewall-configuring utility. Can't tell you what it's called though :-(
#2467 [22:36] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: Useful in some cases though :P . But yes, common sense and proper file permissions are better :-)
#2468 [22:36] <Timmooo> System Preferences -> Security -> Firewall -> Authorize -> Advanced -> Check Minecraft is in the list
#2469 [22:36] <tyteen4a03> FLHerne: it's only useful for stupid users
#2470 [22:38] <FLHerne> tyteen4a03: Perhaps. ufw seems to stay out the way though, and anything is better than nothing :P
#2471 [22:39] <FLHerne> Overzealous ones can be infuriating though :P
#2472 [22:40] <Uta4774> sorry i was chatting with dad
#2473 [22:40] <Soz_> How do I "right click" on a Mac? When i try, it destroys, instead of builds.
#2474 [22:40] <Uta4774> all things are up to date
#2475 [22:40] <GreyVulpine> Soz_ - Hold down your command button
#2476 [22:40] <Uta4774> tfor me, left is destroy and right is to build
#2477 [22:41] <Uta4774> oh yeah and I have no Firewall application
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#2479 [22:43] <AnsonMobile> many routers have firewall functionality too
#2480 [22:43] <Uta4774> hmmm.... I wish they had a tech support phone number i could call
#2481 [22:43] <Kanegasi> right click on a mac? you can do that?
#2482 [22:43] <Kanegasi> Uta4774: its an indie game. this channel is the tech support
#2483 [22:44] <FLHerne> Kanegasi: Since they finally moved to multi-button mice, 10 years after everyone else :P
#2484 [22:44] <Uta4774> yeah, i have a desktop computer. Laptops, they have those seperated bar clicks
#2485 [22:44] * FLHerne still has some of those rectangular ADB mice :-)
#2485 [22:44] <Uta4774> yeah but like... you know support xD
#2486 [22:44] <Kanegasi> you wouldnt catch me dead using mice with less than four buttons and no scroll wheel
#2487 [22:45] <Uta4774> ... my mouse has left click, right click, scroll wheels, and those useless sideclick things
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#2489 [22:47] <Uta4774> are there any other apps like Firewall?
#2490 [22:47] <Uta4774> are there any other apps like Firewall?
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#2492 [22:48] <AnsonMobile> what about your router? they often have firewalls too
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#2494 [22:49] <Soz_> Thanks GregVulpine. It's actually "control" button, not "command", but it got us thinking in the right direction.
#2495 [22:49] <FLHerne> Whoops
#2496 [22:50] <Uta4774> omg i figured out how to open minecraft with terminal!
#2497 [22:50] <AnsonMobile> i like my router's firewall since that can't be accessed directly by possible viruses
#2498 [22:50] <FLHerne> Fiddled with my firewall to see what MC thought about it, and disconnected myself from chat :P
#2499 [22:50] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Good :D
#2500 [22:50] <Uta4774> idk about the router :/
#2501 [22:50] <Uta4774> okay imma look through and tell u what i see
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#2503 [22:51] <Oryx> Hi
#2504 [22:51] <Uta4774> ._. i cant interperate this
#2505 [22:52] <Uta4774> oh wait something says File not found
#2506 [22:52] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Stick it on pastebin, then us lot can try :P
#2507 [22:52] <Oryx> I need help for 1.3
#2508 [22:53] <Uta4774> paste bin.. k
#2509 [22:53] <Oryx> I cant seem to find emeralds at all
#2510 [22:53] <Oryx> I cant seem to find emeralds at all
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#2512 [22:53] <Oryx> And there is a glitch where I enter the nether and I spawn on lava
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#2514 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> Emeralds are even rarer than diamonds
#2515 [22:54] <Oryx> So are pumpkins but I find them
#2516 [22:54] <FLHerne> Oryx: Also, are you using a savegame from an older version?
#2517 [22:54] <DiskDaemon> You can trade with villagers though for emeralds
#2518 [22:54] <Oryx> I think so, yes
#2519 [22:54] <Oryx> I know
#2520 [22:55] <FLHerne> Emeralds and such won't appear in chunks that you'd already been in
#2521 [22:55] <FLHerne> It generates the map when you walk over it, so the old bits won't have any emeralds in
#2522 [22:55] <DiskDaemon> Emeralds will only appear in chunks that have been generated by the 1.3 engine - not in chunks that have been generated from earlier versions
#2523 [22:55] <Oryx> But I had the save game since 1.8 and I still can trade with villagers
#2524 [22:56] <Oryx> I think its 1.8
#2525 [22:56] <Uta4774> http://pastebin.com/b5yD9n7y
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#2527 [22:57] <FLHerne> Oryx: It'll work fine, but there won't be any emeralds in areas you already explored because they didn't exist when those bits of the world were generated
#2528 [22:57] <Oryx> Oh ok
#2529 [22:57] <Oryx> So I have to go far?
#2530 [22:57] <Uta4774> did i do it right?
#2531 [22:58] <FLHerne> Uta4774: Yep. Haven't seen that error before though :-(
#2532 [22:58] <Uta4774> T.T
#2533 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Oryx: You have to go to parts of the world that don't already exist - so that the 1.3 version will generate chunks of the world that contain emeralds in them
#2534 [22:58] <Oryx> I get it now.
#2535 [22:58] <DiskDaemon> Normally a new world is the best idea when such changes to the world generation occur
#2536 [23:00] * FLHerne mucks about with his firewall to try and get a similar error ;-)
#2536 [23:00] <Oryx> Noo I got 40 diamonds
#2537 [23:01] <FLHerne> Oryx: Just hop in a boat and sail across an ocean you haven't crossed yet, then :P
#2538 [23:01] <Oryx> Oh ok.
#2539 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> Don't worry then, you're only missing out on everything that is generated with the terrain since you began with that world
#2540 [23:02] <FLHerne> Oryx: BTW, the same goes for temples, desert wells, whatever
#2541 [23:02] <AnsonMobile> how large is one chunk?
#2542 [23:02] <Oryx> Sure
#2543 [23:02] <DiskDaemon> You can easily link to an unexplored area via the nether
#2544 [23:03] <Uta4774> imma go for today :/ i learned quite a bit thnx for the help
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#2546 [23:03] <DiskDaemon> 16x16 for a chunk
#2547 [23:03] <FLHerne> Interesting, I get a different error if I block MC with =my firewall :P
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#2549 [23:04] <FLHerne> Aaah, it's 4 am. Perhaps I should sleep ;o
#2550 [23:04] * FLHerne goes to bed
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#2551 [23:05] <AnsonMobile> 16x16 area, and full height? or 16^3?
#2552 [23:06] <DiskDaemon> full height
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#2554 [23:07] <asdfghjkl> what error is not allowing minecraft to open after installing on macbook pro?
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#2570 [23:53] <Jmayhill> Hi i cant connect to the minecraft server. The launcher gives me an error that says, "Failed to update news java.net.SocketException: Permission denied:connect" any help?
#2571 [23:54] <xales> Jmayhill: Go to the Control Panel, and go to Programs & Features (or Add and Remove Programs on XP)
#2572 [23:54] <xales> Remove everything that says Java.
#2573 [23:54] <xales> Then, go here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp and use the "Offline Installer" to install Java 1.6
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