#1 [00:02] <Jmayhill> Im downloading it. Thanks for the help
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#4 [00:12] <wizznall> my ip address has changed now i can't log onto my server not sure what to do. please help
#5 [00:13] <wizznall> i made sure the address is right in the mp part of the game aswell and is port fowarded i am stumped now i can't play our saved word in mp
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#7 [00:14] <jimmie-> Need help, does hardcore mode work with vanilla servers in multiplayer?
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#9 [00:15] <jimmie-> the command hardcore=true doesnt seem to do anything in server.properties
#10 [00:17] <oldtopman> jimmie-: Have you restarted the server since changing it?
#11 [00:17] <jimmie-> yes
#12 [00:17] <wizznall> yeah mate i have
#13 [00:17] <jimmie-> is it supposed to work?
#14 [00:18] <wizznall> difficulty=3 thats how i change the difficulty in mp in the server properties txt
#15 [00:18] <jimmie-> yes I have diff at 3 but thats not hardcore mode
#16 [00:19] <wizznall> try level 4 ithing it only goes that far
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#18 [00:21] <jimmie-> doesnt work setting it to 4 either
#19 [00:22] <jimmie-> what i am wondering is that it doesnt seem to make any difference if the hardcore boolean flag is set to "true" or "false"
#20 [00:22] <wizznall> bugger it has me stump as much as hy i can't play my mp game now my ip has changed
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#22 [00:22] <jimmie-> it isnt hardcore either way. anyone have any ideas that might help?
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#24 [00:25] <wizznall> just did some research jimmie and this is what i found on a forum Hardcore mode for multiplayer does not exist because the player would die and would not be able to get back onto the server http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/810113-hardcore-mode-multiplayer/
#25 [00:32] <wizznall> my ip address has changed now i can't log onto my server not sure what to do. please help
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#28 [00:34] <jimmie-> ok i solved it, just didnt have the level-name changed so it didnt write a new world. thanks anyway
#29 [00:35] <daxcolt45> hey um my minecraft isnt opening fully its being like the internet a normal game gets rid of task bar and its like a xbox version when its not
#30 [00:37] <daxcolt45> its doesnt show the default home screen it shows xbox version also when i go to home page it doesnt say " mods & texture pack " it says texture pack can i please have some support
#31 [00:53] <xales> daxcolt45: Uh, what?
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#34 [00:54] <wizznall> my ip address has changed now i can't log onto my server not sure what to do. please help i made sure the address is right in the mp part of the game aswell and is port fowarded i am stumped now i can't play our saved word in mp
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#36 [00:55] <xales> wizznall: Use 127.0.0.1 assuming the server is running on the same machine you are trying to play from.
#37 [00:56] <wizznall> yeah mate the server is running on the same machine it was working fine then i had to restart me router now i can't connect to my server now.
#38 [00:57] <xales> As I just said, connect using 127.0.0.1
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#40 [00:59] <wizznall> so when my freind down the road wants to join aswell does he put in that address or my external address as i am on my server now with 127.0.0.1
#41 [01:00] <xales> They use the external address, as always.
#42 [01:00] <xales> That address will only work for you.
#43 [01:01] <wizznall> ok mate i shall see if they can connect .
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#46 [01:07] <wizznall> @ xales just tried it on my misses pc to connect to me server and it say communication error she is portforwarded as well
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#49 [01:10] <DiskDaemon> Port forwarding should only be done on the computer that hosts a server
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#53 [01:16] <max65784> is this a java prob java virtual machine cant be created if so help
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#55 [01:17] <max65784> is this a java prob java virtual machine cant be created if so help
#56 [01:19] <gv> Yes.
#57 [01:19] <gv> Uninstall java and reinstall it
#58 [01:20] <max65784> thanx
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#61 [01:20] <wizznall> me server say communication error cann't get people to join my server even i can't
#62 [01:21] <combatwombat99> If i buy minecraft on my mojang user, and download it to my user on my the computer, will my brother be able to play it on his mojang user, on his user on the computer?
#63 [01:22] <GreyVulpine> yes, but not at the same ime
#64 [01:23] <combatwombat99> alright. so we wouldnt need to share a user or anything?
#65 [01:23] <wizznall> my server problem sorted stuff knows what i did but it works
#66 [01:24] <wizznall> for my misses to play online with me we just bought the game again and she registered and we play online together so yeah if your bro want to play online with you he have to buy the game aswell
#67 [01:25] <xales> wizznall: You port forwarded wrong, or are using the wrong address.
#68 [01:29] <wizznall> ohh because we use tcp buffer it was looking for port 25500 and i forgot to rest that port on my router sorry to trounle you a noob mistake for a 36 year old gammer
#69 [01:30] <wizznall> jeezz my spelling was crap their sorry mate so excited i got it working again typing to fast hehe
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#71 [01:32] <wizznall> when looking for mods to run on my server in mp with mates i have mpmod loader and mini map and tomannyitems mod running how do we tell if it work on mp before we down load them. as many sites not have a mp lable on the downloads is it just trial and error?
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#73 [01:33] <xales> wizznall: If it doesn't say it will work on multiplayer, then it probably will not.
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#76 [01:34] <michelle_> hello is this someone that can help me that i have lost my password and username?
#77 [01:35] <xales> michelle_: Do you still have the email address?
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#79 [01:36] <wizznall> ok thanks mate as we like the look of the rail mod but we tried it and black screen happens. wish their was more mp mods out their as it more fun, And many thanks for your time and effort xales much appersiated
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#82 [01:50] <Kanegasi> i found an oddity. my buddies have a castle-like compound and near the chicken coup, theres this weird circle-shaped yellow grass area that doesnt get rain.
#83 [01:50] <Kanegasi> theres no glass or anything above it. all open
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#85 [02:05] <bloodstone> still trouble with minecraft, any help out there?
#86 [02:07] <bloodstone> how can I contact someone from mojang to get support for their product?
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#89 [02:18] <Guest72253> how differatnt is the redstone wiring from beta 1.5 to 1.7.2 ?
#90 [02:19] <Guest72253> i would like to do some noteblocks but youtube said that you couldnt do thats song because of the updates
#91 [02:19] <Guest72253> so i just wanted to know if they were right
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#93 [02:21] <gpot97> hello anyone here?
#94 [02:21] <gpot97> hello??
#95 [02:22] <Guest72253> i am
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#97 [02:22] <Guest72253> aww
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#99 [02:22] <gpot97> say hello?
#100 [02:22] <gpot97> hi anyone here?
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#104 [02:25] <Kanegasi> bloodstone: there is no mojang support for the game itselg
#105 [02:25] <Kanegasi> *itself
#106 [02:25] <gpot97> hello?
#107 [02:25] <Kanegasi> hi
#108 [02:25] <gpot97> could u help me?
#109 [02:25] <Kanegasi> what is the issue
#110 [02:26] <gpot97> i am running os x mountain lion and minecraft crashes whenever i try to join a server
#111 [02:26] <gpot97> it started happening today
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#113 [02:26] <Kanegasi> anything different on your computer that you changed today?
#114 [02:27] <gpot97> no not at all. it just crashed and then i couldnt join my server
#115 [02:27] <Kanegasi> is there an error report?
#116 [02:27] <gpot97> ya theres a crash report
#117 [02:27] <gpot97> should i paste it into herer?
#118 [02:27] <gpot97> here*
#119 [02:27] <Kanegasi> use pastebin.com
#120 [02:27] <Kanegasi> and put the link here
#121 [02:27] <gpot97> okay
#122 [02:28] <gpot97> ya got it. i am going to paste bin right now
#123 [02:29] <gpot97> http://pastebin.com/qW6nAGBn
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#125 [02:29] <gpot97> u got the link?
#126 [02:30] <bloodstone> thank you Kanegasi...why is that? I paid money for it and it's not working
#127 [02:30] <gpot97> Kanegasi you here?
#128 [02:30] <Kanegasi> bloodstone: what is not working? is it crashing? do you have an error report?
#129 [02:31] <gpot97> Kanegasi did u get the link?
#130 [02:31] <Kanegasi> gpot97: im looking at it, but to be honest, im not too familiar with macs
#131 [02:31] <gpot97> should i see if there is a minecraft error log?
#132 [02:32] <bloodstone> Kanegasi: after logging and it displays the window showing SINGLE PLAYER, MULTIPLAYER, ETC buttons, it freezes right there unless I reboot the pc. no other program on my pc does this
#133 [02:32] <Kanegasi> bloodstone: what version is your java?
#134 [02:33] <gpot97> whatever i will try again tommorow. thanks for trying
#135 [02:33] <bloodstone> Kanegase: 7, update 6
#136 [02:33] <bloodstone> sorry, Kanegasi
#137 [02:33] <Kanegasi> dont be. some people are just impatient
#138 [02:34] <Kanegasi> i suggest uninstalling java7 and using 6u34
#139 [02:34] <Kanegasi> some people have issues with 7 and minecraft
#140 [02:34] <bloodstone> Kanegasi: I'm running windows 7 64 bit, but my java is 32 bit, is that a problem?
#141 [02:34] <Kanegasi> yes, use the 64bit java version
#142 [02:34] <bloodstone> Kanegasi, I'll try that, thanks
#143 [02:34] <Kanegasi> ??> bloodstone win/java1.6
#144 [02:34] <Kanegasi> oops
#145 [02:35] <Kanegasi> ??> bloodstone java1.6
#146 [02:35] <Kanegasi> ?? java/1.6
#147 [02:35] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#148 [02:35] <Kanegasi> there :P
#149 [02:35] <bloodstone> Kanegasi: thanks again!
#150 [02:35] <Kanegasi> make sure you install both the 32 and 64 bit versions
#151 [02:36] <Kanegasi> minecraft will use the 64bit one automatically, but some other java programs need the 32bit
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#153 [02:37] <Kanegasi> also, bloodstone, mojang is an indie developer ran by 24 people. there is no official support line like big developers have
#154 [02:37] <Kanegasi> this channel and the forums are the only thing close enough to official help
#155 [02:38] <Kanegasi> besides, community support is far better than company support
#156 [02:39] <Kanegasi> if i have a problem with windows 7, im going to ask other windows owners first
#157 [02:39] <bloodstone> thanks again Kanegasi, have to restart browser so I'll disconnect now.
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#161 [02:43] <azucana00> i bought and tried to download minecraft but i have an error that says ''cannot create jave virtual machine'' help please i wanna play
#162 [02:44] <Kanegasi> what version of java do you have installed?
#163 [02:44] <azucana00> version 7 update 6
#164 [02:44] <Kanegasi> ??> azucana00 java/1.6
#165 [02:44] <VoxelHead> azucana00: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#166 [02:45] <Kanegasi> uninstall 7u6 and install 6u34
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#169 [02:53] <azucana00> yes!!!!!!! thank you so much i bought minecraft on my xbox 3 days ago n im addicted u helped me out so much
#170 [02:54] <Kanegasi> you're welcome
#171 [02:54] <Kanegasi> :)
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#185 [03:35] <Compodulator> hey folks, for some reason my minecraft is running REALLY slow
#186 [03:36] <Compodulator> i'm running it on a quad core, 2.4ghz, 6gb ram machine
#187 [03:36] <Compodulator> it has industrialcraft, buildcraft and redpower installed, but come on!
#188 [03:36] <Compodulator> oh and it's minecraft 1.2.3, admittedly...
#189 [03:42] <DiskDaemon> Do you have a similar slowness problem with the vanilla version of the game?
#190 [03:45] <Compodulator> i'd check if i had a fresh 1.2.3 file ^^;
#191 [03:45] <Compodulator> lemme check actually
#192 [03:45] <Compodulator> i should have it
#193 [03:45] <Necrodoom> why are you runnng 1.2.3?
#194 [03:45] <Necrodoom> running*
#195 [03:45] <Compodulator> because i want to wait till IC BC and RP update to 1.3.2
#196 [03:45] <DiskDaemon> I ask because mods aren't handled here
#197 [03:45] <DiskDaemon> ?? mods
#198 [03:45] <VoxelHead> mods: This channel is not a venue for mod support, or support for modded servers. As it is impossible for anybody to know every combination of mods out there, this channel does not assist with unofficial third-party modded content.
#199 [03:45] <VoxelHead> mods: For single player mods, contact the mod's creator or try http://tiny.cc/modinstall for general installation instructions. For bukkit help, use #bukkit; you can also search Google for a mod's installation instructions.
#200 [03:46] <Necrodoom> they all have 1.2.5 versions
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#202 [03:48] <Compodulator> hmm that's true...
#203 [03:49] <Compodulator> thing is... i keep losing my bookmark of older minecraft versions
#204 [03:49] <Compodulator> and since it's apparently a sin equal to murder, rape and pillaging all at once to ask for older versions here....
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#206 [03:52] <DiskDaemon> ?? oldversion
#207 [03:52] <VoxelHead> oldversion: The only legal way to obtain old versions, other than having your own backups, is using the MCNostalgia tool which applies binary patches to the .jar. It can be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/
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#209 [03:52] <Compodulator> ...huh...
#210 [03:52] <Compodulator> well that's a new one
#211 [03:53] <Compodulator> what the f....
#212 [03:53] <Compodulator> what is this sorcery! O_O
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#214 [03:56] <Lasivian> is it possible to make an infinite water source with one bucjet of water anymore?
#215 [03:57] <DiskDaemon> no
#216 [03:57] <Lasivian> sucko, thanks
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#219 [04:03] <Compodulator> i hereby declare this to be absolute sorcery! :O
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#221 [04:03] <Lasivian> uh huh
#222 [04:03] <Lasivian> we'll make sure and increase your dosage
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#224 [04:03] <Compodulator> i'm not insane dammit!
#225 [04:03] <Compodulator> lemme outta this place!
#226 [04:04] <Compodulator> the monkeys will come and i'm the only one who can stop them!
#227 [04:04] <Lasivian> of course you're not
#228 [04:04] <Lasivian> just like everyone else
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#241 [04:51] <xorcon> hallo
#242 [04:51] <xorcon> timet out connekt
#243 [04:51] <xorcon> was mach ich da
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#267 [05:22] <gpot97> hello? is anyone here?
#268 [05:22] <Calinou> gpot97, yes
#269 [05:23] <Calinou> don't ask to ask
#270 [05:23] <gpot97> i have been having some trouble joining servers lately
#271 [05:23] <gpot97> minecraft crashes when i try to join a server
#272 [05:23] <gpot97> i am running os x mountain lion if that helps
#273 [05:24] <Calinou> try another server maybe? does singleplayer work?
#274 [05:24] <gpot97> i have tried multiple servers with the same result. let me check single player...
#275 [05:25] <gpot97> single player works
#276 [05:25] <gpot97> i have a pastebin link with the crash output? would u like to take a look at that?
#277 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> I've found that the most reliable one to use when testing is s.nerd.nu
#278 [05:25] <DiskDaemon> That's the Reddit server.
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#280 [05:26] <gpot97> Calinou?
#281 [05:26] <gpot97> http://pastebin.com/qW6nAGBn
#282 [05:27] <gpot97> is anyone still here?
#283 [05:28] <DiskDaemon> if I could help with mac issues, I would
#284 [05:28] <gpot97> if i were to give you the java output would u be able to understand it betteR?
#285 [05:28] <Calinou> gpot97, try updating java using software update?
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#287 [05:29] <gpot97> theres no update. already checked.
#288 [05:29] <Calinou> "Version: Minecraft 1.0.0 (1.0.0)" why are you playing 1.0.0? latest is 1.3.2
#289 [05:29] <Calinou> make sure you update the game
#290 [05:30] <gpot97> thats odd. i am using 1.3.2
#291 [05:30] <gpot97> i think its refering to the launcher version
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#293 [05:32] <gpot97> any more suggestions?
#294 [05:36] <gpot97> hello?
#295 [05:36] <gpot97> anyone?
#296 [05:37] <gpot97> Calinou, i have the java output if that would be easier to diagnose
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#298 [05:38] <gpot97> hello
#299 [05:39] <gpot97> CAN ANYONE HEAR ME?
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#303 [05:43] <gpot97> Calinou can u help me or not?
#304 [05:44] <gpot97> can anyone hear me and if you can could you PLEASE help me with my problem
#305 [05:44] <gpot97> HEEELLLOOOOO?
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#307 [05:45] <DiskDaemon> You mentioned having the java output?
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#309 [05:53] <jeppe> I cant get it started, it says something wrong with java.
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#311 [06:08] <Zephyre> hi i need help with my mc
#312 [06:10] <Zephyre> when i had java 6 i worked buggy and crashed all the time but when i upgraded to java 7 minecraft launcher says"<html><body><font color="#808080"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><center>Failed to update news<br>java.io.IOException: Error writing to server</center></font></body></html>" have any help
#313 [06:10] <Zephyre> ?
#314 [06:10] <Calinou> downgrade to java 6 then? that's obvious. you can find it here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre6-downloads-1637595.html
#315 [06:11] <Calinou> download the Windows x64 version if you're on 64 bit windows; Windows x86 offline in case you're on 32 bit windows
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#317 [06:12] <Lasivian> wish I knew a good multiplayer PvE server that was reset often
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#337 [07:36] <Kara> Need help please call me
#338 [07:36] <Necrodoom> call you?
#339 [07:37] <Kara> Yes please, are you available to do that?
#340 [07:37] <Morrolan> We're not official support, and there's no support hotline either.
#341 [07:37] <Morrolan> This is IRC, text-based chat.
#342 [07:39] <Kara> Well.... this is the issue: We purchased Minecraft for our son, he never did the complete down load, just kept playing in browser mode. When he went to do the download he fogot his user name & password. How do we recover this?
#343 [07:39] <Kara> We tried using thr forgot your username/password but that is not wking
#344 [07:40] <Kara> Who can help me with this?
#345 [07:40] <Morrolan> Check your junk/spam folder, chances are the password recovery e-mail ended up in there.
#346 [07:41] <Kara> It is not
#347 [07:43] <Kara> Who do I contact because the charge went through on our credit card
#348 [07:45] <Morrolan> You _could_ contact Mojang directly, however, they are currently working on e-mails from two months ago, so unless you feel like waiting quite some time, don't bother.
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#350 [07:45] <Morrolan> I assume the password is saved in the browser? There are tools to retrieve passwords saved that awy.
#351 [07:45] <Morrolan> way*
#352 [07:49] <Kara> Ok.... we just were able to reset the username/password. Not sure why it wked this time. Now when we got o download it tells us we can do this once we buy the game, which we already did
#353 [07:50] <Morrolan> What exactly does it say? And where does it say it?
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#356 [07:53] <Kara> I need to be able to speak with someone bacause when I go to do the download it prompts a user name that is not the one we have.
#357 [07:53] <Morrolan> If you do not provide me with the information I ask of you, I can not help you.
#358 [07:53] <Morrolan> Again, what is the EXACT message you get, and WHERE do you get it.
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#361 [07:55] <Kara> Player name: owencross E-mail: k***********@y****.com (parts of address are hidden) this is what I have for the account info.... when I go to do the download it states the username as ocross123
#362 [07:56] <jguvg> were can i update my minecraft
#363 [07:56] <Morrolan> jguvg - Simply start the launcher and log in, it'll then ask you whether it should update.
#364 [07:57] <Morrolan> Kara - How does it state the username to be ocross123? What do you mean with that?
#365 [07:57] <Kara> I will give that a try, feel like that is what we just did
#366 [07:57] <jguvg> my mine craft wont ask me for update
#367 [07:57] <Morrolan> jguvg - THen you've got the most recent version already.
#368 [07:58] <Morrolan> Kara - I wasn't talking to you back there. Again, how does it state the username to be ocross123?
#369 [07:58] <Morrolan> jguvg - The most recent version of Minecraft is 1.3.2, it should show up somewhere in the main screen.
#370 [07:58] <jguvg> i dont have creatif mode and hungerbar on survivalmode
#371 [07:58] <jguvg> i dont have creatif mode and hungerbar on survivalmode
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#373 [07:59] <Morrolan> jguvg - In Minecraft's main menu, what version does it say it is on the lower left?
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#380 [08:40] <Trident> Hey I am wanting to set up a IRC linked between my Website and Minecraft game server is this still possible ?
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#382 [08:40] <NBZ-mon> test
#383 [08:40] <Morrolan> Trident - Sure.
#384 [08:41] <SinZ> Trident: CraftIRC
#385 [08:41] <SinZ> bukkit plugin
#386 [08:41] <NBZ-mon> @_@
#387 [08:41] <NBZ-mon> What aboot CraftIRC?
#388 [08:41] <Trident> ok Thanks
#389 [08:42] <Trident> How does the server side of things Work ?
#390 [08:42] <SinZ> Trident: You configure it to pick an irc server, and an irc channel, bot name and some other stuff
#391 [08:43] <NBZ-mon> How do I get the @ in front of my IRC bot's name in my channel?
#392 [08:43] <SinZ> and it joins that channel, and relays chat/joins/deaths between irc and minecraft
#393 [08:43] <Boreeas> NBZ-mon: /op <botname>
#394 [08:43] <SinZ> ^
#395 [08:43] <Boreeas> (In the IRC channel)
#396 [08:43] <NBZ-mon> yes! people have answers to questions here!
#397 [08:43] <Trident> ahhh Cheers Guys :D
#398 [08:43] <Trident> ya Awsome
#399 [08:43] <NBZ-mon> Ok, is there a way besides .list to show the players in let's say the name list?
#400 [08:43] <SinZ> there is some config for that iirc
#401 [08:44] <NBZ-mon> I see
#402 [08:44] <Morrolan> You can not show ingame people in the IRC channel user list, however.
#403 [08:44] <Boreeas> NBZ-mon: In the irc names list? If you plan to run it over esper, impossible. The bot would need to open a new connection for each user
#404 [08:44] <NBZ-mon> That is unfortunate
#405 [08:44] <Morrolan> It's a bridge bot, relaying messages, not an IRCd plugin.
#406 [08:45] <NBZ-mon> Thank you
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#409 [08:48] <NBZ-mon> Last question, I was getting "Read Timed out" messages in my console. My server.log apparently had reached 500MB. I removed it, will my problem be solved?
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#413 [08:49] <Morrolan> Your server.log has... what.
#414 [08:49] <Morrolan> I.. why. Argh.
#415 [08:50] <tikker> big problems Morrolan? :)
#416 [08:50] <Necrodoom> NBZ-mon: possibly
#417 [08:50] <Morrolan> tikker - Big indeed.
#418 [08:50] <NBZ-mon> Have you ever treid to open a 500 MB text file?
#419 [08:50] <NBZ-mon> It's quite horrible.
#420 [08:50] <Morrolan> Yes it is.
#421 [08:50] <NBZ-mon> the lag is most intolerable..
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#423 [08:50] <Boreeas> That's why one uses rotating log files
#424 [08:50] <NBZ-mon> Well, so far so good.
#425 [08:51] <NBZ-mon> Indeed, and I suppose there is a plugin that will allow the server to do that? Or would you just change the log file everytime you restart the server?
#426 [08:51] <tikker> how would you get a 500mb text file 0.0
#427 [08:51] <NBZ-mon> Neglect =/
#428 [08:52] <jlkkljh> the mc launcher wont open can i have swom troubleshooting steps
#429 [08:52] <tikker> oh, am i guessing correct if it is the server log? ;)
#430 [08:52] <NBZ-mon> yes!
#431 [08:52] <NBZ-mon> you are quite correct
#432 [08:53] <tikker> mine's 26 kb :P
#433 [08:53] <NBZ-mon> ya.. I better find a plugin to manage that thing for me.
#434 [08:53] <jlkkljh> the mc launcher wont open can i have swom troubleshooting steps
#435 [08:53] <tikker> i just delete it or every month or 2 or when it reaches a certain size
#436 [08:53] <Morrolan> NBZ-mon - There's plugins which do that, but you could also use a cronjob.
#437 [08:53] <Morrolan> As for plugins, it's called something like bananalog IIRC:
#438 [08:53] <NBZ-mon> Are you using a .bat file to launch the MC bukkit.jar file?
#439 [08:54] <Morrolan> http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/admn-bananalogarchive-0-1-archive-your-log-file-once-it-reaches-a-certain-filesize-953.25272/ it is
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#441 [08:54] <tikker> are cronjobs possible on windows?
#442 [08:54] <Morrolan> jlkkljh - What operating system?
#443 [08:54] <jlkkljh> win 7
#444 [08:54] <NBZ-mon> indeed, I have win7 ult
#445 [08:54] <tikker> nvm
#446 [08:54] <tikker> found it already :)
#447 [08:54] <Morrolan> tikker - The cron daemon is a Linux utility, but WIndows offers similar functionality, too.
#448 [08:55] <tikker> indeed, scheduled tasks
#449 [08:55] <Morrolan> jlkkljh - Grab the .jar launcher from minecraft.net/download and try that one.
#450 [08:55] <NBZ-mon> I need to change from windows & IIS to linux and apache :(
#451 [08:55] <jlkkljh> kk brb
#452 [08:56] <Morrolan> jlkkljh - If that one doesn't work either, create a new textfile in the same folder that launcher is in, add "java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame" on the first and "pause" on the second line, save it as "run.bat", doubleclick the .bat file.
#453 [08:56] <Morrolan> YOu'll then get an error in the console, put that one on www.pastebin.com or similar.
#454 [08:57] <jlkkljh> the .jar asked to save as a .zip
#455 [08:57] <jlkkljh> ??
#456 [08:57] <Morrolan> Slap your browser, slap it good.
#457 [08:58] <Morrolan> Either force it to save as .jar, or rename it afterwards.
#458 [08:58] <Calinou> ^ IE user
#459 [08:58] <jlkkljh> yep
#460 [08:58] <NBZ-mon> pastebin eh?
#461 [08:59] <jlkkljh> how do you add java to the classpath?
#462 [08:59] <jlkkljh> btw
#463 [09:00] <Morrolan> You mean to the PATH environment variable?
#464 [09:01] <jlkkljh> yep
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#466 [09:01] <jlkkljh> sorry thats what i meant
#467 [09:01] <Morrolan> Right click "Computer" -> properties -> advanced system settings -> envrionment variables
#468 [09:02] <Morrolan> However, if it's not added automatically, chances are you are using a 32 bit version of Java on a 64 bit OS:
#469 [09:03] <jlkkljh> C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin put that as the valu
#470 [09:04] <jlkkljh> ???
#471 [09:04] <jlkkljh> and no its 64 bit
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#473 [09:06] <Morrolan> Append it to the existing paths, with a ; as separator.
#474 [09:08] <jlkkljh> when i ran it it said java tm has stopped working
#475 [09:09] <NBZ-mon> If you want to take a video or screenshot of what is happening, try this nice little app: http://www.techsmith.com/download/jing/default.asp
#476 [09:09] <NBZ-mon> you can link what you see to people via a link!
#477 [09:10] <Morrolan> jlkkljh - As I said, put the whole console output on pastebin.com
#478 [09:11] <jlkkljh> no the console didnt do any thing wrong a window popped up
#479 [09:11] * SinZ is now known as :SinZ|offline
#480 [09:12] <NBZ-mon> You might try clearing out the java cache. If the problem persists, remove java, then reinstall followed by a restart.
#481 [09:13] <NBZ-mon> let me make a little video with that app I linked to.
#482 [09:14] <jlkkljh> ok
#483 [09:14] <jlkkljh> thx
#484 [09:14] <NBZ-mon> http://www.techsmith.com/download/jing/default.asp
#485 [09:14] <NBZ-mon> err
#486 [09:14] <NBZ-mon> sec
#487 [09:14] <NBZ-mon> One moment please...
#488 [09:14] <NBZ-mon> Thank you for your patience..
#489 [09:14] <NBZ-mon> http://screencast.com/t/9HBSMBgUn8
#490 [09:14] <NBZ-mon> Click on that
#491 [09:15] <NBZ-mon> If you have to remove Java, I would recommend that you remove all the installations, then install both JAva 6 & 7 or just &. I don't user Java 6 anymore.
#492 [09:16] <NBZ-mon> "just &" -> just 7.
#493 [09:17] <Morrolan> If you're going to use it for Minecraft, go with Java 6.
#494 [09:17] <NBZ-mon> I have been using Java 7 for my server and have had no problems.
#495 [09:17] <NBZ-mon> for the record.
#496 [09:17] <Morrolan> There's several client-related issues with Java 7.
#497 [09:18] <NBZ-mon> Ahh ok
#498 [09:18] <Morrolan> Not saying it doesn't work for anyone, but it doesn't work for lots of people.
#499 [09:18] <NBZ-mon> Fair enough
#500 [09:18] <Morrolan> Most common issue, by far, is Java 7 using IPv6 by default.
#501 [09:18] <NBZ-mon> Good to know
#502 [09:19] <jlkkljh> ill b back if anymore probs show
#503 [09:19] <NBZ-mon> kk
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#506 [09:22] <Compodulator> anyone here good with deciphering forge error logs? ^^;
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#509 [09:23] <moonfairy_x3> Hello?
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#511 [09:24] <moonfairy_x3> I have a problem and need some help from a suporter or so?
#512 [09:24] <Andrio> moonfairy_x3, hi
#513 [09:24] <moonfairy_x3> hi
#514 [09:25] <moonfairy_x3> I bought minecraft 2 or 3weeks ago
#515 [09:25] <moonfairy_x3> over my bank in germany and i dont have my minecraft yet.
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#517 [09:26] <moonfairy_x3> hello? someone there?
#518 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> Please see: [09:25.09am] <moonfairy_x3> I bought mine
#519 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> er
#520 [09:27] <GreyVulpine> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/329519-when-will-i-receive-my-premium-status-
#521 [09:28] <Omen-> So, upgraded from java 1.6 to 1.7 and now I am getting "Exception in thread "Thread-3" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so:.minecraft/bin/natives/liblwjgl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 (Possible cause: architecture word width mismatch)
#522 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> linux?
#523 [09:29] <Omen-> what I don't get is why it's trying to load the 32bit library with a 64bit java
#524 [09:29] <Omen-> GreyVulpine: correct
#525 [09:29] <GreyVulpine> Update lwjgl from lwjgl.org
#526 [09:29] <moonfairy_x3> i dont bougth premium, i bougth the game minecraft. acualy i thought i bought it. becouse i became a number
#527 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> Replace the files in ~/.minecraft/bin and /bin/natives with it
#528 [09:30] <Omen-> is this a known problem?
#529 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> minecraft packages a very old version of lwjgl, version 2.4.2
#530 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> It's a known issue
#531 [09:30] <Omen-> Ok, thanks
#532 [09:30] <GreyVulpine> moonfairy_x3 - Buying minecraft and buying a premium account are the same thing
#533 [09:31] <GreyVulpine> moonfairy_x3 - If you didn't buy premium, then you didn't purchase minecraft.
#534 [09:31] <moonfairy_x3> oh ok, i dont know that
#535 [09:31] <moonfairy_x3> thx for u help
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#537 [09:32] * Omen- groans.
#537 [09:32] <Omen-> apparently that is no longer there grey
#538 [09:32] <GreyVulpine> Wait, what?/
#539 [09:32] <tyteen4a03> I'm surprised that LWJGL doesn't feature Minecraft
#540 [09:33] <Omen-> after 3 refreshes I got to it, was getting a 500 error
#541 [09:33] <GreyVulpine> lwjgl is available at http://lwjgl.org/download.php
#542 [09:36] <GreyVulpine> !ping
#543 [09:36] <GreyBot> GreyVulpine Your Ping time was 0.328 seconds.
#544 [09:37] <Boreeas> To update LWJGL, follow the instructions at http://paste.kealper.com/view/7IL09r0W
#545 [09:37] <PhoneBook> !ping
#546 [09:37] <GreyBot> PhoneBook Your Ping time was 0.312 seconds.
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#548 [09:39] <Omen-> thank you Boreeas that fixed it.
#549 [09:42] <Compodulator> hrm
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#551 [09:42] <Compodulator> i have BC, IC and RP installed, and i want NEI
#552 [09:42] <Compodulator> you know, for the recepies and conveinece
#553 [09:42] <Compodulator> convenience
#554 [09:42] <tripleclones> hi all, has anyone else notice text disappear for signs?
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#556 [09:42] <Compodulator> and yet, when i install nei for 1.2.5, which is what i got through the use of the downgrading tool minecraft goes black
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#558 [09:43] <Necrodoom> Compodulator: wrong channel for mods
#559 [09:43] <Necrodoom> Compodulator: try #risucraft
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#561 [09:44] <Compodulator> ty
#562 [09:44] <tripleclones> log off and back on and the text is back
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#565 [09:47] <Smartbuy7> Hej guys could you help me? I can't connect to minecraft!
#566 [09:47] <tripleclones> hi Smartbuy7 - I just had a very problems but all seems ok now
#567 [09:49] <Smartbuy7> Ok I'll try it again
#568 [09:50] <Smartbuy7> No doesn't work :(
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#570 [09:52] <Smartbuy7> Does somewone know what I have to do!
#571 [09:52] <Smartbuy7> ???
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#573 [09:54] <DLD> hi
#574 [09:54] <DLD> I have 2 kids that want minecraft and 1 e-mail account
#575 [09:54] <DLD> I have 2 kids that want minecraft and 1 e-mail account
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#577 [09:54] <DLD> Mnecraft won't let me purchade the hame with the same e-mail
#578 [09:54] <DLD> what can i do?
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#580 [09:55] <tikker> create another e-mail account is as far as i know the only solution
#581 [09:55] <tikker> each account must have its own e-mail
#582 [09:55] <DLD> really? that is horrible
#583 [09:55] <DLD> many parents must be in thae same boat
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#586 [09:58] <tikker> yeah
#587 [09:58] <tikker> don't your kids have email?
#588 [09:58] <DLD> kid accounts only
#589 [09:59] <tikker> you would need two minecraft accounts, so you need two email adresses
#590 [09:59] <DLD> from yahoo - they are too restrictive to allow e-mail from minecraft
#591 [09:59] <tikker> :/
#592 [09:59] <tikker> that is absurd
#593 [10:00] <DLD> ya - but it prevents spammers from getting to the kids
#594 [10:00] <DLD> Ii need 3 actualyy 1 for mom :-)
#595 [10:00] <tikker> well then you need 3 emails :P
#596 [10:01] <DLD> I don'tknow why - I play othe games hat allow me to get multilpe accounts w/ i e-mail
#597 [10:01] <DLD> primary/secondary characters
#598 [10:02] <DLD> what is the rationale?
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#600 [10:02] <tikker> well this isn't a primary/secondary characters thing
#601 [10:03] <tikker> but one of the points of requiring each account having a seperate e-mail adress is safety
#602 [10:04] <tikker> not htat it would hurt if your kids would know each others password
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#604 [10:04] <maxfighter011> hi there
#605 [10:04] <tikker> hi maxfighter011
#606 [10:04] <maxfighter011> i have a question
#607 [10:04] <tikker> ask maxfighter011
#608 [10:04] <DLD> ok - i think that the help should have a FAQ on that as I know foe a fact that other parents in my son's class have the same isse
#609 [10:04] <maxfighter011> i just deleted .minecraft order and now i dont know how to get it back D:
#610 [10:05] <tikker> DLD, so you need an email adress for each account you want to register (and buy) for Minecraft
#611 [10:05] <maxfighter011> i buyed minecraft
#612 [10:05] <tikker> maxfighter011 just run the launcer again
#613 [10:05] <maxfighter011> but i deleted in roaming the .minecraft order#
#614 [10:05] <tikker> doesn't matter
#615 [10:05] <tikker> just log in and play the game
#616 [10:05] <tikker> it will download all the files again
#617 [10:05] <maxfighter011> i did it but the .minecraft isnt there
#618 [10:06] <maxfighter011> okay
#619 [10:06] <DLD> iit sure does - dis it several times
#620 [10:06] <tikker> what do you mean DLD?
#621 [10:06] <tikker> !paid maxfighter011
#622 [10:06] <DLD> i deleted the directory as we had a bad texture pack
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#624 [10:07] <DLD> watched a u-tube video
#625 [10:07] <DLD> and it worked like a charm
#626 [10:07] <DLD> anyway ty for the help even though it wasn't the answer i wanted
#627 [10:08] <meg> hi, my minecraft wont work if i try to run it from my desktop. it tells me it failed to update?
#628 [10:08] <maxfighter011> hi there again i have a problem my .minecraft order is deleted and i dont know how i can get it back
#629 [10:08] <Andrio> maxfighter011, do a force update
#630 [10:08] <maxfighter011> when i download minecraft again it doesnt open
#631 [10:08] <maxfighter011> no minecraft doesnt open
#632 [10:09] <maxfighter011> so i cant do force update :/
#633 [10:09] <maxfighter011> so i cant do force update :/
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#635 [10:09] <tikker> maxfighter011 try playing on the website
#636 [10:09] <meg> i tryed a force update and i have tryed to redownloa it. does not work?
#637 [10:10] <maxfighter011> no i cant
#638 [10:10] <tikker> why not
#639 [10:10] <maxfighter011> it doesnt open
#640 [10:10] <tikker> not even on the website?
#641 [10:10] <maxfighter011> my order is away
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#643 [10:10] <maxfighter011> do u have skype i can make screenshots...
#644 [10:10] <meg> can anyne help me?
#645 [10:10] <tikker> you mean your .minecraft folder isn't there anymore
#646 [10:10] <tikker> maxfighter011
#647 [10:10] <maxfighter011> yes
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#649 [10:10] <tikker> that is no problem
#650 [10:10] <tikker> just run the game
#651 [10:11] <maxfighter011> and when i download mc again the .minecraft order isnt there
#652 [10:11] <tikker> http://www.minecraft.net/play
#653 [10:11] <tikker> go there
#654 [10:11] <maxfighter011> yy
#655 [10:11] <Wug> maxfighter011: download the launcher and force update
#656 [10:11] <maxfighter011> i know and than download the exe
#657 [10:11] <meg> tikker? coukd you help?
#658 [10:11] <maxfighter011> but it already doesnt open :(
#659 [10:11] <tikker> what is the problem meg?
#660 [10:12] <Wug> maxfighter011: you mustve broken java somehow
#661 [10:12] <Wug> reinstall it.
#662 [10:12] <Wug> meg: has it ever worked
#663 [10:12] <tikker> ??< index
#664 [10:12] <tikker> ??< java/transplant
#665 [10:13] <meg> wug...yes! i have hd minecraft for while annd it now has stopped woring?
#666 [10:13] <Wug> meg: open the task manager
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#668 [10:13] <meg> how do i do that?
#669 [10:13] <Wug> go to the processes tab and search for a program called "rlvknlg.exe" or "prmrsr.exe"
#670 [10:13] <Wug> ctrl+alt+delete
#671 [10:14] <meg> yeah??
#672 [10:14] <Wug> yeah what?
#673 [10:15] <meg> what do i do after that?
#674 [10:15] <Wug> look for one of those 2 processes
#675 [10:15] <meg> oohh okay...one sec
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#677 [10:16] <panos> hello
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#679 [10:16] <Wug> panos: hello
#680 [10:16] <Wug> if you have a question just ask it
#681 [10:16] <panos> I wana make a server with Bukkit
#682 [10:16] <meg> wug: my computer cant find either porgrame?
#683 [10:16] <panos> can you help me?
#684 [10:17] <Andrio> panos, there's a separate channel #bukkit
#685 [10:17] <Wug> panos: join #bukkit
#686 [10:17] <Andrio> try asking for help there
#687 [10:17] <panos> Thanks
#688 [10:17] <Wug> meg: do you have avg?
#689 [10:17] <Wug> meg: do you have avg?
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#691 [10:18] <meg> what avg? :/ sorry!
#692 [10:18] <Wug> meg: does someone else manage your computer
#693 [10:18] <meg> no?
#694 [10:18] <Wug> not one of your parents?
#695 [10:19] <meg> well its my mums laptop? its my brothers account im trying to fix for him?
#696 [10:19] <Wug> can you grab your mom
#697 [10:19] <Wug> this would be easier with her using it
#698 [10:19] <meg> ermmm yeah?
#699 [10:20] <meg> shess not very techncal?
#700 [10:20] <Wug> :| it sounds like you aren't either
#701 [10:20] <meg> yep? shes here
#702 [10:20] <Wug> ask her if she has AVG installed
#703 [10:21] <meg> he said whats AVG? anti virus?
#704 [10:21] <Wug> yes
#705 [10:21] <Wug> its a specific brand.
#706 [10:21] <meg> yes she does. it macaffee?
#707 [10:21] <Wug> no, it would be called AVG
#708 [10:21] <meg> no she dosnt then.
#709 [10:22] <Wug> but she does have mcafee?
#710 [10:22] <meg> yeah
#711 [10:22] <Wug> ask her to turn it off
#712 [10:22] <Wug> then try updating minecraft
#713 [10:22] <meg> okay...
#714 [10:22] <Wug> you can turn it back on when the update is done
#715 [10:23] <meg> shll turn of the firewall?
#716 [10:23] <Wug> yes
#717 [10:23] <meg> okay...ill just try it.
#718 [10:23] <Wug> just remember what you turn off so you can turn it back on
#719 [10:24] <meg> yess! thnk you soo much! very helpfull! :D
#720 [10:25] <Wug> if you ever have to update it again and it doesn't work, remember to try disabling those
#721 [10:25] <Wug> and don't forget to turn them back on afterwards.
#722 [10:25] <meg> yeahh! thank youu!
#723 [10:25] <meg> goodbyee!
#724 [10:25] <Wug> bye
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#726 [10:26] <Wug> * channel returns to peacefulness
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#740 [10:49] <mvc1202> having trouble connecting to multi player. can someone help with the steps to do this?
#741 [10:50] <mvc1202> i followed the steps to "open to LAN" and "add server" but cannot get my friend connected to my game
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#743 [10:52] <Morrolan> Magic, you forgot to turn the magic on!
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#750 [11:00] <Patrick> Hello?
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#752 [11:00] <Andrio> Hello
#753 [11:01] <Patrick> I can't download minecraft.
#754 [11:01] <shawn_> Hi.
#755 [11:01] <shawn_> Qustion.
#756 [11:01] <Patrick> I can't download minecraft.
#757 [11:02] <Patrick> Like when I run or save it just dissapears.
#758 [11:03] <shawn_> I have windows xp 32 bit. Cant get minecraft to play. I have system info saved to pastebin. Can u tell me what driver upgrades i need?
#759 [11:04] <tikker> we need the pastebin first
#760 [11:04] <tikker> :)
#761 [11:04] <Wug> shawn_: you were here the other day, right
#762 [11:04] <shawn_> ok......hold on
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#764 [11:04] <Wug> I remember your name
#765 [11:04] <shawn_> yes, sorry......my internet provider died on me
#766 [11:05] <shawn_> Here is the info: pastebin.com/GQgmycKL
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#769 [11:05] <Patrick> II need help.
#770 [11:06] <Patrick> Are you there?
#771 [11:07] <Wug> shawn_: try installing this http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=9498&ProdId=1044&lang=eng&OSVersion=Windows%20XP%20%20Home%20Edition*&DownloadType=Drivers
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#774 [11:07] <Wug> Patrick: ask a question, get an answer
#775 [11:07] <Wug> don't ask a question, don't get an answer
#776 [11:07] <Wug> your choice
#777 [11:08] <shawn_> ok.....will try it and let u know. Thank you for your help. :D
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#784 [11:14] <shawn_> ...ok......the driver couldn't be installed to my puter.
#785 [11:14] <Wug> hmmm
#786 [11:15] <shawn_> do u need my system info again?
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#789 [11:17] <Wug> shawn_: no
#790 [11:17] <Wug> go here: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/Product/optiplex-gx270
#791 [11:17] <Wug> that has a list of drivers for your computer
#792 [11:17] <shawn_> ok.....any particular driver that u reccomend?
#793 [11:18] <Wug> definitely get this one: http://www.dell.com/support/drivers/us/en/19/DriverDetails/DriverFileFormats/Product/optiplex-gx270?DriverId=R126991&FileId=2731114463&urlProductCode=False
#794 [11:18] <shawn_> ok......will let u know what happens
#795 [11:18] <Wug> however, I'd try the newer ATI one as well
#796 [11:18] <Wug> you might not actually have the ATI card, but its worth a shot
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#798 [11:19] <shawn_> .....dont know if i do or not. this is a puter i bought from my employer
#799 [11:19] <Wug> if you don't the driver just wont install
#800 [11:20] <shawn_> ok.....should i do the 2nd one first?
#801 [11:20] <Wug> the long link? yes
#802 [11:20] <shawn_> alright. back shortly
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#804 [11:21] <Jake_> Hello?
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#806 [11:21] <Jake_> i need help
#807 [11:21] <Wug> Jake_: ask a question, get an answer
#808 [11:22] <Wug> or don't ask a question, don't get an answer. your choice
#809 [11:22] <Jake_> i downloaded minecraft snapshot 12w34b but i dont know how to play it
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#811 [11:23] <Wug> if you don't know how to install snapshots, you shouldn't be using them because you probably don't understand the potential risks involved.
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#813 [11:23] <Wug> you can probably find a guide to installing it on youtube.
#814 [11:24] <Wug> any guide for any snapshot will work, they all install the same way
#815 [11:24] <shawn_> ......it wants me to close all windows..........do i need to do that?
#816 [11:24] <Jake_> i watched a tututol on youtube but i got confused
#817 [11:24] <Morrolan> Or even the wiki.
#818 [11:24] <Wug> shawn_: you can skip that
#819 [11:24] <Wug> every installer says that
#820 [11:24] <shawn_> ok..........b right back
#821 [11:24] <Wug> it might want you to restart afterwards though
#822 [11:24] <Wug> also, less dots, more words
#823 [11:25] <Jake_> hello?
#824 [11:25] <Wug> Jake_: we've given you your answer
#825 [11:25] <shawn_> puter is now telling me the software has not passed windows logo testing and wants to know if i'm sure i want to continue
#826 [11:25] <Wug> what makes you think I'll be able to tell you how to do it if you can't figure it out from watching someone do it
#827 [11:26] <Wug> shawn_: tell it yes
#828 [11:26] <shawn_> ok
#829 [11:26] <Jake_> uhhhh this website is confusing
#830 [11:26] <Wug> Jake_: no, its really not. its just reading text
#831 [11:26] <Wug> and sometimes writing it
#832 [11:27] <Wug> its also not a website.
#833 [11:27] <shawn_> ok....says set up is complete and wants me to restart puter
#834 [11:27] <Wug> shawn_: sounds about right. do that and see if it works afterwards
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#836 [11:27] <Morrolan> Is "puter" actually a word you people use?
#837 [11:27] <Jake_> i tried draging the fiels from the snapshot to my minecraft bin file but nothing happend
#838 [11:28] <shawn_> ok......will try it out and come back and let u know what happens. thanks soooo much.
#839 [11:28] <Wug> Morrolan: its a word ive heard enough times to know what people mean when they say it
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#841 [11:28] <Morrolan> Well, I know too what they mean, but it sounds rather horrible.
#842 [11:28] <Wug> Jake_: watch the youtube tutorial again then
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#844 [11:28] <Wug> make sure you follow it exactly
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#846 [11:28] <Wug> pause it every few seconds if you need to
#847 [11:29] <Morrolan> I'd advise the article on the wiki, short and concise explanatation there, and no pausing needed.
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#849 [11:29] <Wug> have you a link to it
#850 [11:29] <Jake_> i did when i downloaded it i had muiltiple files and when he did it he only had one
#851 [11:30] <Morrolan> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Snapshot
#852 [11:30] <Morrolan> The third paragraph in the introductory text.
#853 [11:31] <Morrolan> Granted, might lead to "What minecraft.jar???", but if this is the case, there's no hope anyway.
#854 [11:31] <Grim_> lol
#855 [11:31] <Grim_> in fact I just read all of that and must admit I leaked a little from my bladder.
#856 [11:32] <Jake_> hello please awnser my last comment
#857 [11:32] <Morrolan> Then you downloaded it wrongly.
#858 [11:32] <Morrolan> Don't save it as a .zip, save it as a .jar.
#859 [11:32] <Morrolan> Also, don't use Internet Explorer.
#860 [11:32] <Jake_> oh thanks a lot!
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#864 [11:34] <Grim_> also I might opt for 12w34a..
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#867 [11:36] <FireEagleTwo> hello
#868 [11:36] <shawn_> ok.......some improvement.......but screen very dark and images aren't sharp, almost slightly "pixilated" still (if that makes sense)
#869 [11:36] <FireEagleTwo> i need some help
#870 [11:36] <Grim_> Ask question and wait :)
#871 [11:36] <FireEagleTwo> ok
#872 [11:37] <shawn_> i have it open currently in another window
#873 [11:37] <FireEagleTwo> i already see at the help forum the skin server is... bugged i guess, i dont remember very well, and it says to reload the skin later. i already did it like 5 times in 1 week, and it still as steve, can someone tell me why?
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#875 [11:38] <Grim_> YEs..
#876 [11:38] <FireEagleTwo> ?
#877 [11:38] <Grim_> The server has gone wrong.
#878 [11:38] <Grim_> simple.
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#880 [11:38] <Grim_> nothing you can do except wait for the issue to be resolved.
#881 [11:38] <FireEagleTwo> :|
#882 [11:38] <Grim_> I have had same issue.#
#883 [11:39] <FireEagleTwo> i miss my pedo-ryu skin lol
#884 [11:39] <Grim_> is not good, granted.
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#886 [11:39] <FireEagleTwo> is there some aprox. time to get resolved?
#887 [11:40] <Grim_> Not that I know of, just check back here is all I can suggest.
#888 [11:40] <FireEagleTwo> ok, thanks you
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#890 [11:40] <Grim_> Sorry I/we can not fix it for you.. :|
#891 [11:40] <Grim_> But your welcome to the fob off we all have been given :)
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#896 [11:42] <shawn_> ......is "wug" still here?
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#898 [11:43] <Grim_> Wug: he is yes :)
#899 [11:43] <shawn_> .....working on another prob i take it/
#900 [11:43] <Grim_> If he is still at keyboard or not who knows?
#901 [11:43] <shawn_> hmmmm
#902 [11:43] <shawn_> ......can u advise me?
#903 [11:44] <Grim_> I can try..
#904 [11:44] <Grim_> probably fail.
#905 [11:44] <Grim_> but I can at least try.
#906 [11:44] <shawn_> .....ok.....should i tell u the situation or let u reread it above
#907 [11:45] <Grim_> right U got driver issues.
#908 [11:45] <shawn_> yes
#909 [11:45] <Grim_> And using Vista?
#910 [11:45] <shawn_> 32 bit window
#911 [11:45] <Wug> xp
#912 [11:45] <shawn_> .....yes, xp
#913 [11:46] <Wug> shawn_: stop adding dots to every line
#914 [11:46] <Wug> it is, quite frankly, annoying.
#915 [11:46] <shawn_> sorry, habbit of mine
#916 [11:46] <Grim_> xp
#917 [11:46] <Wug> post a screenshot of what you're seeing
#918 [11:46] <Grim_> sorry just read all the way up
#919 [11:46] <Grim_> and wug is abck.
#920 [11:47] <shawn_> ok, but i don't know how to do that
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#922 [11:47] <Wug> hit print screen, open paint, paste and save, upload to imgur, share link
#923 [11:49] <shawn_> is imgur a website?
#924 [11:49] <Wug> yep
#925 [11:49] <Grim_> imgur.com/
#926 [11:49] <shawn_> ok, will give it a shot
#927 [11:49] <Grim_> of the double U*3 kind
#928 [11:50] <Grim_> you should be able to paste directly to site
#929 [11:51] <Wug> can you do that
#930 [11:51] <Wug> can you do that
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#932 [11:51] <Wug> never tried.
#933 [11:51] <Grim_> yup
#934 [11:52] <Grim_> http://imgur.com/m3HGD
#935 [11:52] <Wug> ... thats a picture of imgur.
#936 [11:52] <Wug> I need a picture of minecraft.
#937 [11:53] <Grim_> lol that was me showing you can paste directly to imgur
#938 [11:53] <Grim_> and you got my desktop as well :p
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#941 [11:54] <Morrolan> QuickTime Player?
#942 [11:54] <Grim_> Shawn seems to have left the room.
#943 [11:55] <Morrolan> You've got a piece of adware on your PC.
#944 [11:55] <shawn_> no
#945 [11:55] <Grim_> my desktop
#946 [11:55] <Grim_> http://i.imgur.com/T3KmZ.jpg
#947 [11:55] <Grim_> Which app ?
#948 [11:55] <Grim_> QT?
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#950 [11:55] <Morrolan> Mhm.
#951 [11:56] <Grim_> Never saw Quicktime as adware.
#952 [11:56] <shawn_> i push the print scrn button, but then to get to paint window that is open, i have to hit esc on minecraft to get my cursor back, and then i cant paste anything. sorry, but i'm a little rusty on my puter commands
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#954 [11:57] <Grim_> Shawn... goto www.imgur.com
#955 [11:57] <Grim_> then ctrl+v there
#956 [11:57] <Grim_> then send the link :~~)
#957 [11:57] <shawn_> ok, back in a moment
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#959 [11:59] <Grim_> If it was the QT Plugin I would kind of agree it could be seen as Adware.
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#961 [12:00] <shawn_> says upload failed, image too large
#962 [12:01] <Boreeas> Got dropbox?
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#964 [12:02] <shawn_> r u talking to me boreeas?
#965 [12:03] <Boreeas> Yes
#966 [12:03] <shawn_> ah, sorry.
#967 [12:03] <shawn_> i'm not familiar with dropbox, so prob not
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#969 [12:04] <Boreeas> Try scaling the image then
#970 [12:04] <rymate1234> Guys
#971 [12:04] <rymate1234> is there something up with mc auth?
#972 [12:04] <rymate1234> I can't join servers D:
#973 [12:04] <fatalerror0x00> hey everyone Ineed a little help...so when I run out of food points my health only goes to 4 hearts and I stop starving so I can't die from starvation
#974 [12:05] <shawn_> ok, prob is i loose control of cursor once in minecraft, so how do i scale the image?
#975 [12:05] <rymate1234> fatalerror0x00, you can only starve in hard difficulty
#976 [12:05] <Boreeas> rymate1234: help.mojang.com says everything is fine
#977 [12:05] <rymate1234> shawn_, to take a screenshot in minecraft, press F2
#978 [12:05] <fatalerror0x00> I am in hard difficulty
#979 [12:05] <rymate1234> o.o
#980 [12:05] <fatalerror0x00> as far as I know
#981 [12:05] <Grim_> shawn_: are you pasting directly to site?
#982 [12:05] <fatalerror0x00> let me check that once more
#983 [12:06] <fatalerror0x00> yes Iam in hard difficulty
#984 [12:06] <shawn_> well i definately was not foing F2
#985 [12:06] <shawn_> sorry, doing
#986 [12:06] <Grim_> http://imgur.com/
#987 [12:06] <Boreeas> shawn_: Open the saved image in an image editor of your choice. A scale option should be somewhere in the "Edit" submenu
#988 [12:06] <Grim_> Then ctrl+v
#989 [12:07] <rymate1234> trying the browser button
#990 [12:07] <fatalerror0x00> I am playing on a craftbukkit server right now I am running a test in single player to see if it's minecraft or craftbukkit or a plugin on my server
#991 [12:07] <Boreeas> fatalerror0x00: For a server, you need to edit the server config file to set the difficulty
#992 [12:07] <fatalerror0x00> hmmmmmmmm I'm pretty sure thats hard difficulty still but let me check that too then -.-
#993 [12:07] <shawn_> alright, i push F2, then to get to the paint window i currently have open, i need to hit escape to get cursor back, will i still have the image?
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#997 [12:08] <Grim_> yes
#998 [12:08] <Grim_> The image is saved to Clipboard.
#999 [12:08] <rymate1234> ok
#1000 [12:08] <rymate1234> works on the browser version
#1001 [12:08] <shawn_> ok, will try
#1002 [12:08] <Grim_> Is why you can also ctrl+v irect to http://imgur.com/
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#1004 [12:10] <fatalerror0x00> okay so i have figured it out is the server then because someone changed the difficulty I'll have to talk to my moderator about this Iapologize for wasting your time thank you :P
#1005 [12:10] <Grim_> Now I have an issue
#1006 [12:11] <Grim_> http://imgur.com/qxxDF can anyone help.. this is happening for all multiplayer servers.
#1007 [12:11] <shawn_> ok, i have successfully saved image in the paint window, but do not see a scale option in edit tab
#1008 [12:11] <rymate1234> Grim_, I have this issue!
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#1012 [12:12] <lutzee> I only ever see bad login when i've logged in from one place while logged in from another..
#1013 [12:12] <b9king> my account seems to have been stolen
#1014 [12:12] <b9king> it says failed to login bad log in
#1015 [12:12] <Katz> Hello. Is this common? I can't log in to a server/servers. Getting the "Bad login" error.
#1016 [12:13] <b9king> katz
#1017 [12:13] <b9king> i am getting that to
#1018 [12:13] <Katz> I guess something is broken.
#1019 [12:13] <Katz> I paid and everything.
#1020 [12:13] <b9king> idk you have skype
#1021 [12:13] <Grim_> I don't think accounts have been stolen as I can still log in to site.
#1022 [12:13] <Katz> Me too.
#1023 [12:13] <Katz> Can't login to the servers.
#1024 [12:13] <b9king> i get the Oops, an error occurred This exception has been logged with id 6bdj1f31n.
#1025 [12:14] <Katz> I tested on my onwn.
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#1027 [12:14] <b9king> Oops, an error occurred This exception has been logged with id 6bdj1f31n. message when i try to log in
#1028 [12:14] <Katz> Online thingy seems to not work.
#1029 [12:14] <rwag131> okay guys i have a question.
#1030 [12:14] <rwag131> no matter what username i try and use, even if its a random jumble of letters. i still get the "username is unavailable!" thing. ive tried at least 20 times.
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#1032 [12:14] <Grim_> shawn_: you need to upload the image to http://imgur.com/
#1033 [12:14] <Grim_> and then post resulting link here
#1034 [12:14] <Panos> #bukkit
#1035 [12:15] <rwag131> grim r u talking to me
#1036 [12:15] <Grim_> nope shawn_
#1037 [12:15] <rwag131> alright.
#1038 [12:15] <rwag131> does anyone have any idea as to how the hell i can get a username.
#1039 [12:15] <b9king> Um the online is experiencing some problems
#1040 [12:15] <Katz> Yeah.
#1041 [12:15] <Katz> Seems like it.
#1042 [12:15] <rwag131> is there like, a certain requirement? like 2 capitalized letters or something.
#1043 [12:16] <Panos> minecraft
#1044 [12:16] <b9king> Rwag look at my name there is no caps
#1045 [12:16] <rwag131> okay. i tried everything. from aslkdfjalsd to rwag131.
#1046 [12:16] <rwag131> and it refuses to let me make a username.
#1047 [12:17] <Grim_> This exception has been logged with id 6bdj1fgk9.
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#1049 [12:17] <shawn_> yes, still says image too large, trying to find scale function in paint
#1050 [12:17] <b9king> alright when i log in on mojang.com it says Oops, an error occurred This exception has been logged with id 6bdj1f31n.
#1051 [12:17] <Grim_> ok looks like www.mojang.com account server is down.
#1052 [12:17] <Grim_> ffs
#1053 [12:17] <b9king> Oops, an error occurred This exception has been logged with id 6bdj1f31n
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#1055 [12:18] <Katz> I actually never tried to log out.
#1056 [12:18] <Katz> Let me try real quick.
#1057 [12:18] <b9king> anyone wanna play 20 questions while mc is down
#1058 [12:18] <Katz> Nope, I can login fine.
#1059 [12:18] <Katz> It's just the server online thingy.
#1060 [12:19] <Grim_> Mojang accounts website
#1061 [12:19] <Grim_> This service is healthy. All is good!
#1062 [12:19] <Grim_> Bullshit
#1063 [12:19] <rwag131> still says my username is unavailable regardless of what i tyoe.
#1064 [12:19] <Katz> ^
#1065 [12:20] <Katz> Minecraft news thingy in the client seems loading slow.
#1066 [12:20] <b9king> my gues is a ddos attackj
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#1068 [12:20] <b9king> or soemthing
#1069 [12:20] <Katz> Nah, just another server lock or something.
#1070 [12:20] <crazilon> "Failed to login: Bad login"
#1071 [12:20] <Katz> Skins failing to work like everyday.
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#1073 [12:21] <b9king> craz we all get that
#1074 [12:21] <crazilon> I'm coming here to see if I can find the solution
#1075 [12:21] <Katz> Man, imagine getting this while you try to go to your SP world.
#1076 [12:21] <b9king> there is not one
#1077 [12:21] <Katz> Nightmare.
#1078 [12:22] <shawn_> http://imgur.com/DhuC5 got it
#1079 [12:22] <b9king> all we can do is wait
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#1082 [12:22] <Katz> Wait a second.
#1083 [12:22] <crazilon> is it a problem with the mc.net, the server, or me.
#1084 [12:22] <b9king> anyone have skype
#1085 [12:23] <Katz> It works when you play in browser.
#1086 [12:23] <Preston159> I keep getting bad login, and I do
#1087 [12:23] <Katz> Or is it just me?
#1088 [12:23] <MinerDude> I keep getting the Failed to login: Bad login error
#1089 [12:23] <crazilon> preston, that's what im here for
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#1091 [12:23] <crazilon> minerdude me too
#1092 [12:23] <Preston159> me too
#1093 [12:23] <Preston159> me too
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#1095 [12:23] <crazilon> MINECRAFT.NET MUST BE DOWN
#1096 [12:23] <b9king> WE ALL GET FAILED TO LOGIN BAD LOGIN
#1097 [12:23] <Preston159> its not
#1098 [12:23] <Preston159> my friend is right next to me and he can log in
#1099 [12:23] <Katz> lol
#1100 [12:23] <b9king> WE ALL GET FAILED TO LOGIN BAD LOGIN
#1101 [12:24] <Katz> It does work in browsers.
#1102 [12:24] <Katz> Try it.
#1103 [12:24] <crazilon> WHAT IS UP WITH THIS I DONT GET IT JEBZ JEBZ JEBZ
#1104 [12:24] <Preston159> ok
#1105 [12:24] <Katz> So client is failing.
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#1107 [12:24] <Preston159> yea
#1108 [12:25] <Katz> Even skins is working GOD
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#1110 [12:25] <crazilon> EVERYTHING IS WORKING PERFECTLY
#1111 [12:25] <NonMexicanAmigo> I cannot login to My server.. it says Failed To Login: Bad Login every time i try to go onto my server
#1112 [12:25] <Preston159> we are all having that problem
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#1114 [12:25] <djmike88> Hello
#1115 [12:25] <crazilon> nma: that's what 5 of us are here for
#1116 [12:26] <djmike88> I have a problem
#1117 [12:26] <NonMexicanAmigo> Not my friends, they can logon fine
#1118 [12:26] <crazilon> bad login?
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#1120 [12:26] <MinerDude> There was a website for checking the Mojang login servers...i forgot it
#1121 [12:26] <crazilon> djmike88: bad login?
#1122 [12:26] <Preston159> yeah i know my friend can login too, just not me
#1123 [12:26] <djmike88> I have a bad login error
#1124 [12:26] <NonMexicanAmigo> yea..
#1125 [12:26] <crazilon> EEVERYONE/
#1126 [12:26] <crazilon> EVERYONE.
#1127 [12:26] <NonMexicanAmigo> And i really want to go on my server /:
#1128 [12:26] <djmike88> I checked this help.mojang.com
#1129 [12:26] <crazilon> WE ARE ALL HERE FOR BAD LOGIN.
#1130 [12:26] <Preston159> yeah everythings up
#1131 [12:26] <Katz> Try to play in browsers for now.
#1132 [12:26] <NonMexicanAmigo> Eww
#1133 [12:26] <Katz> It works fine there.
#1134 [12:26] <crazilon> THE LOGIN SERVERS ARENT GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.
#1135 [12:26] <crazilon> PLAY IN BROWSER.
#1136 [12:26] <NonMexicanAmigo> NO
#1137 [12:26] <djmike88> Damn Mojang
#1138 [12:26] <crazilon> PUT IT IN TOPIC PLEASE
#1139 [12:27] <crazilon> nma: why not?
#1140 [12:27] <crazilon> nma: why not?
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#1142 [12:27] <Katz> Okay dude you can stop capsing lol
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#1144 [12:27] <NonMexicanAmigo> Wait is playing in browsers the same as the actual program?
#1145 [12:27] <djmike88> Yes
#1146 [12:27] <Preston159> pretty much, but its slower
#1147 [12:27] <djmike88> Just in a virtual eviroment I think.
#1148 [12:27] <NonMexicanAmigo> wow
#1149 [12:27] <NonMexicanAmigo> well mojang needs to fix their game
#1150 [12:28] * _tinjaw is now known as :tinjaw
#1151 [12:28] <Katz> Mojang need to fix their servers.
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#1153 [12:28] <b9king> anyone know how to dupe
#1154 [12:28] <crazilon> cant play in browser for mac
#1155 [12:28] <djmike88> Servers work in browser. I tried one. :)
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#1157 [12:28] <s_n> I'm getting a bad login message whenever I try to login to servers. It just started today and I've tried force update and reinstallation
#1158 [12:29] <NonMexicanAmigo> Same here
#1159 [12:29] <crazilon> s_n: we are all here for that.
#1160 [12:29] <Katz> Try to play in browser.
#1161 [12:29] <djmike88> Sam here
#1162 [12:29] <Preston159> yes
#1163 [12:29] <s_n> Aw heeeellllllll naw
#1164 [12:29] <djmike88> *same
#1165 [12:29] <NonMexicanAmigo> Playing in browser sucks
#1166 [12:29] <djmike88> Yeah
#1167 [12:29] <crazilon> I cant play in browser for mac
#1168 [12:29] <b9king> [11:11] == b9king [webchat@cbl-dhcp-23-074.machlink.com] has joined #minecrafthelp [11:11] -AuBot- Welcome to #minecrafthelp! if you have a question, just ask it. [11:12] <lutzee> I only ever see bad login when i've logged in from one place while logged in from another.. [11:12] <b9king> my account seems to have been stolen [11:12] <b9king> it says failed to login bad log in [11:12] == Tsuimonster [~Alex@pool-71-172-35-239.nwrknj.fios.ve
#1169 [12:29] <Katz> Well it's something at least.
#1170 [12:29] <djmike88> Update Java
#1171 [12:29] <s_n> I can't either crazilon
#1172 [12:29] <s_n> I just installed 64bit
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#1174 [12:29] <NonMexicanAmigo> what will updating java do?!
#1175 [12:29] <Katz> Better then nothing.
#1176 [12:29] <Preston159> i changed my password, and it still doesnt work
#1177 [12:29] <crazilon> I cant play in browser for mac can anyone here me
#1178 [12:29] <s_n> get rid of that annoying red message in your video settings
#1179 [12:30] <s_n> yes @crazilon, I can't either
#1180 [12:30] <NonMexicanAmigo> what will updating java do?!
#1181 [12:30] <Preston159> try downloading firefox crazilon
#1182 [12:30] <djmike88> Who has migrated to a Mojang account
#1183 [12:30] <Katz> Zero.
#1184 [12:30] <Preston159> i have
#1185 [12:30] <NonMexicanAmigo> i have
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#1187 [12:30] <Katz> I have.
#1188 [12:30] <djmike88> I have
#1189 [12:30] <crazilon> preston159 :AYFKM, that's what im using now
#1190 [12:30] <Preston159> oh...
#1191 [12:30] <NonMexicanAmigo> lol
#1192 [12:30] <Katz> Everyone have.
#1193 [12:30] <djmike88> I wanna go back. It sucks using my email
#1194 [12:30] <crazilon> I have
#1195 [12:30] <NonMexicanAmigo> same
#1196 [12:30] <crazilon> NO ITS ONLY BAD IF YOU HAVE MOJANG ACC.
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#1198 [12:30] <Katz> Well ofc.
#1199 [12:30] <NonMexicanAmigo> THEN HOW DO I MIGRATE BACK
#1200 [12:31] <shawn_> grim, one thing i just found, my son had the brightness down low. i moved it to 100 and will do some experiments. if any probs, will get back here. thank you again to all of you, i do appreciate it.
#1201 [12:31] <s_n> why would you migrate back?
#1202 [12:31] <Preston159> you can't migrate back
#1203 [12:31] <Katz> Their email thingy is broken completly.
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#1205 [12:31] <crazilon> HOW TO MIGRATE BACKKKKKK
#1206 [12:31] <djmike88> If I delete my mojang account will it delete my Minecraft account?
#1207 [12:31] <Preston159> YOU CANT
#1208 [12:31] <Katz> You can't I think.
#1209 [12:31] <s_n> WHY WOULD YOU?
#1210 [12:31] <NonMexicanAmigo> well u cant even login on mojang.com now
#1211 [12:31] <crazilon> FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
#1212 [12:31] <Preston159> i dont think so
#1213 [12:31] <Katz> Welp.
#1214 [12:31] <Katz> Total fail.
#1215 [12:31] <NonMexicanAmigo> this is stupid
#1216 [12:31] <crazilon> s_n: because login servers are down for mojang accounts
#1217 [12:32] <NonMexicanAmigo> When will they be back up?!
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#1219 [12:32] <s_n> just give it a little while
#1220 [12:32] <djmike88> Yeah
#1221 [12:32] <crazilon> NNO
#1222 [12:32] <Katz> They have servers even for this?
#1223 [12:32] <s_n> it's absolutely not worth trying to de-migrate
#1224 [12:32] <Katz> Why their server is so failing.
#1225 [12:32] <crazilon> yeah it is
#1226 [12:32] <crazilon> REMEMBER THE EXPLOIT
#1227 [12:32] <s_n> yes katz, all games and websites have login servers
#1228 [12:32] <Katz> It have one login server.
#1229 [12:32] <s_n> and like 7 million people..
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#1231 [12:33] <Katz> No wonder it's failing.
#1232 [12:33] <FireEagleTwo> god
#1233 [12:33] <FireEagleTwo> 3 more times already tried to upload my skin and it wont appear
#1234 [12:33] <FireEagleTwo> i hate you steve :(
#1235 [12:33] <Katz> Everything is pretty much broken.
#1236 [12:33] <Katz> Thanks, 1.3
#1237 [12:33] <crazilon> yup
#1238 [12:33] <FireEagleTwo> does someone have same problem?
#1239 [12:34] <crazilon> imma post on r/minecraftcirclejerk EVERYTHING IS BROKEN CALL JEBZ NOW
#1240 [12:34] <FireEagleTwo> lol
#1241 [12:34] <Katz> lol
#1242 [12:34] <FireEagleTwo> i miss 1.2.5
#1243 [12:34] <djmike88> There are currently issues with in-game skins.
#1244 [12:34] <FireEagleTwo> :|
#1245 [12:34] <FireEagleTwo> yes i see
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#1247 [12:35] <Katz> Aka they freaking broken.
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#1249 [12:35] <FireEagleTwo> i already uploaded 8 times my skin, in 1 weeks plus 1 day and it still appearing as steve
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#1251 [12:35] <crazilon> samizzle700: everyone is getting bad login.
#1252 [12:35] <FireEagleTwo> but i can see some ppl skin
#1253 [12:35] <Lewes> Is minecraft.net multiplayer login down?
#1254 [12:35] <crazilon> should i ping m0llstam
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#1256 [12:35] <Lewes> Some people can loginto my server
#1257 [12:35] <FireEagleTwo> i can play mp, but i cant see my skin
#1258 [12:35] <FireEagleTwo> i can play mp, but i cant see my skin
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#1260 [12:35] <djmike88> There are currently issues with in-game skins.
#1261 [12:35] <FireEagleTwo> yes ikr
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#1263 [12:36] <crazilon> really should i ping tobias
#1264 [12:36] <Grim_> mollstam
#1265 [12:36] <Grim_> I tweeted him
#1266 [12:36] <s_n> CALL DINNARS BONE
#1267 [12:36] <crazilon> dang it, you just ping him.
#1268 [12:36] <s_n> MUN CROFT IS BROKE
#1269 [12:36] <crazilon> CALL DINNARJEBZ
#1270 [12:36] <FireEagleTwo> mun croft lol
#1271 [12:36] <Katz> You know? He should add skin server info to help.mojang.com
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#1273 [12:36] <crazilon> EVERYONE CALL NOTCH HIT[LE]R
#1274 [12:36] <FireEagleTwo> yes
#1275 [12:36] <FireEagleTwo> that's true Katz
#1276 [12:37] <Katz> Yeah.
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#1279 [12:37] <s_n> I haven't seen anything on /r/minecraft
#1280 [12:37] <FireEagleTwo> crazilon, dont apologize politics here
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#1282 [12:37] <s_n> about the login servers
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#1284 [12:37] <samizzle700> Has anyone else had this problem. I changed my password to my account and that migrated it even though I didn't want to and now I have to use my email. now every time I try to join a server it says Failed to login: Bad login and I can't change my setting because I get an error everytime
#1285 [12:38] <Vilicus> Failed to Login: Bad Login, seems to be associated with people who have migrated to mojang accounts.
#1286 [12:38] <MarethyuII> Same problem. Just started in the last hour.
#1287 [12:38] <djmike88> Yep
#1288 [12:38] <t4nk769> can anyone please help me with Risugami's modloader, it doesnt work for me with 1.3.2 , it worked with 1.2.5 (i got the current version)
#1289 [12:38] <MinerDude> Did everyone here migrate?
#1290 [12:38] <Katz> They really need to fix this shizzle
#1291 [12:38] <samizzle700> do you know how to fix this problem
#1292 [12:38] <FireEagleTwo> what's the difference betwen Mojang and Mc acc
#1293 [12:38] <MarethyuII> I migrated a while ago, yes
#1294 [12:38] <MinerDude> I'm guessing people who migrate can't login
#1295 [12:38] <s_n> t4nk769 what do you need
#1296 [12:38] <lutzee> t4nk769: you just tried joining #risucraft didn't you?
#1297 [12:38] <Katz> So I get it how it works
#1298 [12:38] <MarethyuII> Mojang acc applies to all Mojang products
#1299 [12:38] <Katz> In browsers it's using just nickname
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#1301 [12:38] <Preston159> i migrated 6 mos ago and just started having problems
#1302 [12:38] <samizzle700> I can login and im migrated and just cant join my server
#1303 [12:39] <t4nk769> can anyone please help me with Risugami's modloader, it doesnt work for me with 1.3.2 , it worked with 1.2.5 (i got the current version)
#1304 [12:39] <Grim_> Looks like http://www.mojang.com/%accounts% Might be on the fritz.
#1305 [12:39] <Katz> And in client it's using an email
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#1307 [12:39] <Preston159> i can't join any servers
#1308 [12:39] <MinerDude> If you migrated it's not gonna migrate.
#1309 [12:39] <s_n> just give it time
#1310 [12:39] <MinerDude> *work
#1311 [12:39] <t4nk769> can anyone please help me with Risugami's modloader, it doesnt work for me with 1.3.2 , it worked with 1.2.5 (i got the current version)
#1312 [12:39] <MarethyuII> iWe get it T4nk
#1313 [12:39] <s_n> go to #risucraft
#1314 [12:39] <t4nk769> i tried
#1315 [12:39] <MarethyuII> It probably needs to be updated, calm down.
#1316 [12:39] <lutzee> s_n: he can't, theres a +b that's preventing him (not for him though)
#1317 [12:39] <samizzle700> i migrated but i was able to join servers yesterday and it only recently started
#1318 [12:40] <t4nk769> it just popped up a join this or this with /join
#1319 [12:40] <MarethyuII> So Mojang is having Tech problems?
#1320 [12:40] <Vilicus> yes
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#1323 [12:40] <samizzle700> do you guys know how to contact mojang
#1324 [12:40] <MarethyuII> That makes sense, I can't login on Mojang Help site anyway.
#1325 [12:40] <MarethyuII> I'll try, hold on.
#1326 [12:40] <samizzle700> i cant either
#1327 [12:41] <Vilicus> i was told to come here, i tried getting @mollstam's attention on twitter about the issue, but i'm afraid they've all gone to bed or something
#1328 [12:41] <s_n> CALL JEBS HOUSE
#1329 [12:41] <s_n> JEB UR GAME IS BROKE
#1330 [12:41] <Grim_> https://account.mojang.com/migrate
#1331 [12:41] <samizzle700> maybe its only today
#1332 [12:41] <samizzle700> i hope
#1333 [12:41] <Grim_> broke
#1334 [12:41] <lutzee> Wow, you guys might have gotten
#1335 [12:41] <s_n> these things usaully only last a few hours
#1336 [12:41] <lutzee> Tobias' attention..
#1337 [12:42] <crazilon> mollstam
#1338 [12:42] <FireEagleTwo> gugu dada
#1339 [12:42] <lutzee> fml, stop saying his name....
#1340 [12:42] <crazilon> NTOCH
#1341 [12:42] <crazilon> NITOCH
#1342 [12:42] <Vilicus> last i remember, i creeper was puffing itself up and then i got disconnected and with the failed to login issues... i'm worried
#1343 [12:42] <Vilicus> a*
#1344 [12:42] <samizzle700> are we suppose to contact mojang
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#1346 [12:42] <ShaRose> Hey guys, did you know they they probably already know and all you are doing is spamming? Cool! Stop spamming then.
#1347 [12:43] <crazilon> NO
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#1349 [12:43] <samizzle700> what she or he said
#1350 [12:43] <Grim_> http://status.mojang.com/
#1351 [12:43] <crazilon> grim_, ok
#1352 [12:43] <samizzle700> so what can we do about migrating the account and the bad server log in think
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#1354 [12:44] <Grim_> hrm.
#1355 [12:44] <FireEagleTwo> mojang status = OK
#1356 [12:44] <FireEagleTwo> ftw
#1357 [12:44] <Grim_> yup but we know different.
#1358 [12:44] <Vilicus> means noting, since apparently the account migration thing has no "status" symbol for being ok or not
#1359 [12:44] <Storm1230> Anyone else getting a bad login thing?
#1360 [12:44] <Vilicus> nothing*
#1361 [12:44] <samizzle700> i wish i didnt change my password
#1362 [12:44] <crazilon> Strom1230: 30 of us are here for that.
#1363 [12:44] <FireEagleTwo> BAD LOGIN = MIGRATED PPL ACCOUNTS
#1364 [12:44] <lutzee> Okay, everyone stop
#1365 [12:44] <samizzle700> ?
#1366 [12:44] <Storm1230> Okay im not the only one..
#1367 [12:44] <samizzle700> with
#1368 [12:44] <FireEagleTwo> im here for skin problems
#1369 [12:45] <lutzee> It seems there is problems with logging into server with people using migrated accounts
#1370 [12:45] <Grim_> http://status.mojang.com/frame?content=check
#1371 [12:45] <Storm1230> Yeah same for me..
#1372 [12:45] <Storm1230> I have a migrated account
#1373 [12:45] <Vilicus> lol you said "for skin"
#1374 [12:45] <FireEagleTwo> so?
#1375 [12:45] <samizzle700> i have migrated account
#1376 [12:45] <Grim_> http://status.mojang.com/frame?content=news
#1377 [12:45] <samizzle700> this stuff only started happening today
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#1379 [12:45] <Storm1230> So everyone with a migrated account is getting bad login?
#1380 [12:45] <FireEagleTwo> maybe im not from english-talk country?
#1381 [12:45] <lutzee> Wug: you about still? :|
#1382 [12:46] <Vilicus> n/m then, sorry
#1383 [12:46] <samizzle700> i think your account migration thing oly started happening today
#1384 [12:46] <samizzle700> it was fine yesterday
#1385 [12:46] <Grim_> seems that way Storm1230
#1386 [12:46] <FireEagleTwo> i want my pedo-ryu back :(
#1387 [12:46] <Storm1230> I've been having a lot of trouble ever since I migrated..
#1388 [12:46] <Vilicus> the account migration thing started like 45 minutes ago, we all just got disconnected from servers around the same time
#1389 [12:46] <MarethyuII> It did start today. It was working an hour ago!!!!!!!!!
#1390 [12:47] <samizzle700> maybe the account migration think will stop by tommorow
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#1392 [12:47] <samizzle700> it only started happening today for me
#1393 [12:47] <Grim_> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/675623-my-minecraft-skin-is-gone
#1394 [12:47] <MarethyuII> IT DID START TODAY!
#1395 [12:47] <Boreeas> MarethyuII: We know. Please refrain from talking in all caps
#1396 [12:48] <FireEagleTwo> @Grim_ : it says try later or something like that, i tryed it from around 5 days
#1397 [12:48] <MarethyuII> My apologies.
#1398 [12:48] <Vilicus> i got youtube episodes to record with my channel partner :(
#1399 [12:48] <FireEagleTwo> and it happens again and again
#1400 [12:48] <samizzle700> Hopefully it will stop tommorow.
#1401 [12:48] <MarethyuII> We get it Samizzle
#1402 [12:48] <Storm1230> So is there anyone who can help fix this mess?
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#1404 [12:48] <MarethyuII> No, mojang problem.
#1405 [12:48] <FireEagleTwo> THANKS YOU 1.3
#1406 [12:48] <samizzle700> yeah im smaizzle
#1407 [12:48] <coinreturn1> hello? can you help me?
#1408 [12:48] <Boreeas> FireEagleTwo: Please, no all caps
#1409 [12:48] <Boreeas> coinreturn1: Having trouble logging in?
#1410 [12:48] <FireEagleTwo> :|
#1411 [12:48] <NonMexicanAmigo> I am
#1412 [12:48] <MarethyuII> What's the problem Coin?
#1413 [12:49] <samizzle700> coinreturn help with wat
#1414 [12:49] <samizzle700> *what
#1415 [12:49] <coinreturn1> yeah my account is migrated and it wont let me login to servers or mojang.com
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#1417 [12:49] <lutzee> Boreeas: The auth servers seem not to be authing anyone with a migrated account at the moment
#1418 [12:49] <Storm1230> Same
#1419 [12:49] <MarethyuII> Mojang problem.
#1420 [12:49] <MarethyuII> Can't fix it.
#1421 [12:49] <Boreeas> coinreturn1: Auth servers are down
#1422 [12:49] <samizzle700> coin that is happening to evyerone
#1423 [12:49] <NonMexicanAmigo> When will they be fixed
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#1425 [12:49] <MarethyuII> Who knows?
#1426 [12:49] <NonMexicanAmigo> Somebody should
#1427 [12:49] <coinreturn1> oh, okay do you know when they will be up, or if mojang knows about the issue?
#1428 [12:50] <MarethyuII> I think someone is informing Mojang.
#1429 [12:50] <FireEagleTwo> i already tried from 4 or 5 days ago, changing my skin and it still appearing as steve
#1430 [12:50] <Vilicus> what time is it in sweden?
#1431 [12:50] <coinreturn1> I hope
#1432 [12:50] <samizzle700> it is a problem with mojang
#1433 [12:50] <NonMexicanAmigo> Somebody should
#1434 [12:50] <samizzle700> i tried contacting them
#1435 [12:50] <lutzee> It's not like you haven't pinged Tobias enough though...
#1436 [12:50] <coinreturn1> does anyone know any contact information that we could request them to fix the issue?
#1437 [12:50] <samizzle700> but i need transaction id which i lost
#1438 [12:50] <NonMexicanAmigo> You guys it is 6:50 PM in Sweden right now
#1439 [12:50] <Boreeas> lutzee: Thanks
#1440 [12:50] <NonMexicanAmigo> Yea so maybe they can fix it soon
#1441 [12:51] <Grim_> I am sure they are becomming aware of the issue.
#1442 [12:51] <coinreturn1> well thank you for your help guys, appreciate it ;d
#1443 [12:51] <coinreturn1> ;D
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#1445 [12:51] <samizzle700> contact them here
#1446 [12:51] <Grim_> If they did not cause the issue by unplugging a server.. or spilling a cuppa coffee.
#1447 [12:51] <samizzle700> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
#1448 [12:51] <Vilicus> if not... then mollstam has one more reason to check the irc for issues
#1449 [12:51] <Grim_> or similar
#1450 [12:51] <coinreturn1> Thank you! <3 brb
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#1455 [12:51] <djmike88> Just tweeted Mojang about the problems.
#1456 [12:51] <lutzee> The best way to contact mojang quickly is twitter, the email system is about 3 month backlog and should only be used for account based issues
#1457 [12:52] <Patrick> I need help.
#1458 [12:52] <samizzle700> with what
#1459 [12:52] <Grim_> I am sure they are becoing aware fo the issue :)
#1460 [12:52] <Vilicus> wouldn't this be an account based issue? we all migrated our accounts, and are having issues
#1461 [12:52] <Patrick> When i start to run minecraft it just dissapears.
#1462 [12:52] <samizzle700> oh
#1463 [12:52] <lutzee> Vilicus: and you want to wait 2 months for a fix?#
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#1465 [12:52] <Patrick> no.
#1466 [12:53] <samizzle700> that happened to me yesterday patriick
#1467 [12:53] <lutzee> Patrick: reinstall java
#1468 [12:53] <samizzle700> i just uninstalled the game then reinstalled
#1469 [12:53] <samizzle700> yeah
#1470 [12:53] <djmike88> Who has Twitter?
#1471 [12:53] <samizzle700> me
#1472 [12:53] <Patrick> wait what?
#1473 [12:53] <MarethyuII> E-mail sent to Mojang, but the e-mail system is terrible!
#1474 [12:53] <djmike88> Tweet to the Mojang team.
#1475 [12:53] <MarethyuII> Reinstall Java patric
#1476 [12:53] <samizzle700> ok patrick
#1477 [12:53] <Vilicus> i've already messaged mollstam on twitter, no response, but i'm sure he's looking into it
#1478 [12:53] <Patrick> How?
#1479 [12:53] <MarethyuII> google java download
#1480 [12:53] <samizzle700> go into start then type run
#1481 [12:53] <Patrick> Same thing when i save or run.
#1482 [12:54] <MarethyuII> that works too sam
#1483 [12:54] <Patrick> But it doesn't work when i run.
#1484 [12:54] <lutzee> ??> Patrick java/1.6
#1485 [12:54] <VoxelHead> Patrick: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#1486 [12:54] <samizzle700> go in to start and type run the enter
#1487 [12:54] <Patrick> Okay brb
#1488 [12:54] <Storm1230> This migrated accounts thing is making me mad. I didnt pay 26$ just to wait for them to get a grip on things :/ It needs to stop
#1489 [12:54] <samizzle700> i payed 20 dollers
#1490 [12:54] <lutzee> Patrick: uninstall any java you have before doing that
#1491 [12:54] <samizzle700> dollars
#1492 [12:54] <djmike88> I hate ma mojang account.
#1493 [12:54] <MarethyuII> Storm, there isn't anything we can do
#1494 [12:54] <Vilicus> because no game you ever pay for has issues after its launched...
#1495 [12:54] <Wug> lutzee: :|
#1496 [12:54] <Boreeas> Storm1230: It is only one day every month or so. It's not like you are unable to play every day
#1497 [12:54] <Patrick> Wait I don't get this...
#1498 [12:54] <NonMexicanAmigo> Well they should get this crap fixed
#1499 [12:55] <Wug> I leave for 2 seconds and everything explodes
#1500 [12:55] <NonMexicanAmigo> Im tired of Minecraft having SO many probelsm
#1501 [12:55] <Boreeas> Wug: ikr
#1502 [12:55] <samizzle700> patrick
#1503 [12:55] <NonMexicanAmigo> problems
#1504 [12:55] <djmike88> If it's a broken cable. I will lol.
#1505 [12:55] <djmike88> #
#1506 [12:55] <MarethyuII> One day a month? I haven't noticed it being that often.
#1507 [12:55] <Patrick> Wait I uninstall java then reinstall again then download it?
#1508 [12:55] <djmike88> Yes
#1509 [12:55] <samizzle700> in the start menu find minecraft folder
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#1511 [12:55] <MarethyuII> Ye
#1512 [12:55] <ShaRose> Wug just kick people who whine about this like entitled children
#1513 [12:55] <MarethyuII> *yes
#1514 [12:55] <NonMexicanAmigo> thatll fix minecraft?
#1515 [12:55] <Patrick> Okay...
#1516 [12:55] <Patrick> I'm new.
#1517 [12:55] <Wug> OK EVERYONE, THIS IS AN ANNOUCEMENT
#1518 [12:56] <Wug> Minecraft is having auth issues as youve probably all noticed
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#1520 [12:56] <Morrolan> Listen to him, he's the one who spilled lubricant over the server. :>
#1521 [12:56] <Boreeas> ^ Not helping
#1522 [12:56] <Wug> nothing you can do except wait it out. If that's the only reason you're here, we can't do anything about it and we don't know when it will be fixed
#1523 [12:56] <Morrolan> Boreeas - Sorry. ;)
#1524 [12:57] <Boreeas> No problem :P
#1525 [12:57] <Wug> so try to keep calm
#1526 [12:57] <xales> or get the fuck out
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#1528 [12:57] <Wug> if you'd like to run around flailing your arms and screaming, go to #minecraft
#1529 [12:57] <Wug> this is not a general chat channel.
#1530 [12:57] <Morrolan> Haha.
#1531 [12:57] <Morrolan> I'm sure those guys will just love us. :)
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#1533 [12:57] <samizzle700> im gonna play tekkit at least that is working
#1534 [12:57] <ShaRose> I couldn't since I don't have voice, but I agree with xales :V
#1535 [12:58] <Storm1230> Anyway to de-migrate a account?
#1536 [12:58] <lutzee> Thanks for that
#1537 [12:58] <Grim_> Maybe consider a MOTD Update.
#1538 [12:58] <Morrolan> Storm1230 - Nope.
#1539 [12:58] <Grim_> :)
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#1541 [12:58] <MarethyuII> Ta all.
#1542 [12:58] <Grim_> NO NO it is not Minecraft.net
#1543 [12:58] <Grim_> it is Mojang.com
#1544 [12:58] <MarethyuII> It's mojang
#1545 [12:58] <MarethyuII> Yes.
#1546 [12:58] <Morrolan> If we write "auth servers" none will know what it is.
#1547 [12:58] <Vilicus> its Migrated Mojang.com accounts.
#1548 [12:58] <MarethyuII> We know.
#1549 [12:58] <Grim_> thank you :)
#1550 [12:59] <Grim_> saves RSI
#1551 [12:59] <NonMexicanAmigo> ergh I want to play minecraft
#1552 [12:59] <MarethyuII> gtg, bye all
#1553 [12:59] <Wug> NonMexicanAmigo: play offline
#1554 [12:59] <Storm1230> Anyway to de-migrate a account?
#1555 [12:59] <Wug> Storm1230: still no.
#1556 [12:59] <NonMexicanAmigo> On servers
#1557 [12:59] <NonMexicanAmigo> My server
#1558 [12:59] <Katz> Your server?
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#1560 [12:59] <Storm1230> Sorry didnt see it the first time D:
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#1562 [12:59] <NonMexicanAmigo> Yea cna we De-Migrate our account?
#1563 [12:59] <Katz> You wanna play on your server?
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#1566 [12:59] <djmike88> Change your server to allow people to join with offline accounts.
#1567 [13:00] * Wug kicked Katz from #minecrafthelp (Reason: atz :don't advertise)
#1568 [13:00] <lutzee> NonMexicanAmigo: no you cannot
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#1571 [13:00] <NonMexicanAmigo> Well migrating accounts is stupid
#1572 [13:00] <Storm1230> There should be that option.
#1573 [13:00] <Katz> What, I'm not doing any knida of ads.
#1574 [13:00] <Storm1230> T'is
#1575 [13:00] <xales> Wug is just off his rocker.
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#1577 [13:00] <Wug> Katz: oops. I thought you said "our" server
#1578 [13:00] <Katz> No, no.
#1579 [13:00] <xales> Wug r derp.
#1580 [13:00] * xales r go to store
#1580 [13:00] <ShaRose> NonMexicanAmigo and Storm1230, stop acting like children
#1581 [13:00] <Katz> I never :)
#1582 [13:00] <ShaRose> seriously
#1583 [13:01] <xales> ^
#1584 [13:01] <magnum199547> I am having a login issue to a server, its giving me a Failure to connect: Bad Login
#1585 [13:01] <Vilicus> see topic magnum
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#1587 [13:01] <JudoJosh> okay, so i am trying to create an account on minecraft.net, and no matter what i input, it says it is taken. PLEASE HELP!!
#1588 [13:01] <NonMexicanAmigo> ShaRose
#1589 [13:01] <lutzee> magnum199547: The auth servers seem not to be authing anyone with a migrated account at the moment
#1590 [13:01] <Wug> 4,1test
#1591 [13:01] <Storm1230> ShaRose, I want to play a friendly game of minecraft with my friends but when this happens I cannot and it is annoying.
#1592 [13:01] <Wug> ooh thats good
#1593 [13:01] <xales> JudoJosh: The servers are having an issue right now. Please be patient.
#1594 [13:01] <ShaRose> it's literally easier to read what you say in the voice of a 5 year old
#1595 [13:01] <JudoJosh> ok ty
#1596 [13:01] <magnum199547> ok thank you
#1597 [13:01] <Boreeas> 3,4Test successful
#1598 [13:02] <xales> Storm1230: Yes, and it happens what, once a month? You have severe entitlement issues.
#1599 [13:02] <xales> Storm1230: Yes, and it happens what, once a month? You have severe entitlement issues.
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#1602 [13:02] <NonMexicanAmigo> ShaRose quit acting superior to everybody. We would like to play this game without problems for once
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#1604 [13:02] * xales -> store
#1604 [13:02] <Boreeas> NonMexicanAmigo: Then get out of this channel and into #minecraft
#1605 [13:02] <Wug> there
#1606 [13:02] <NonMexicanAmigo> What will that do
#1607 [13:02] <Boreeas> NonMexicanAmigo: This is not the place to complain about mojang
#1608 [13:02] <Wug> have a bright red bold entry message
#1609 [13:02] <iamthebeast54> how do i change my skin
#1610 [13:02] <Vilicus> how many games have you ever played where you never had a problem? I know of only one... Tetris
#1611 [13:02] <ShaRose> NonMexicanAmigo for once? oh I'm sorry I must have missed all the time it was working
#1612 [13:02] <ShaRose> fool
#1613 [13:02] <NonMexicanAmigo> Hmm what is this channel caled? #minecraftHELP?!
#1614 [13:03] <Wug> iamthebeast54: skin changing has been broken lately
#1615 [13:03] <Boreeas> NonMexicanAmigo: Yep. Not #minecraftCOMPLAINS
#1616 [13:03] <iamthebeast54> oh well didnt know that thanks
#1617 [13:03] <lutzee> NonMexicanAmigo: and we can do no more to assist you because we are not mojang
#1618 [13:03] <ShaRose> NonMexicanAmigo are you helping? are you able to get help here? or are you crying like a child?
#1619 [13:03] <NonMexicanAmigo> Im sorry for coming on a minecraft help page and asking for help sharose
#1620 [13:03] <Boreeas> NonMexicanAmigo: We are here to help with issues, not to help with circlejerking
#1621 [13:03] * Wug kicked ShaRose from #minecrafthelp (Reason: haRose :enough)
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#1623 [13:03] <Wug> lid it.
#1624 [13:03] <NonMexicanAmigo> Boreeas quit insulting yourself
#1625 [13:03] <iamthebeast54> thanks for the help bye
#1626 [13:03] * Wug kicked NonMexicanAmigo from #minecrafthelp (Reason: onMexicanAmigo :you lid it too.)
#1627 [13:04] <tyteen4a03> Wug: I wasn't sure whether I should kick because the situation was too confusing :P
#1628 [13:04] <tyteen4a03> Wug: I wasn't sure whether I should kick because the situation was too confusing :P
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#1630 [13:04] <Wug> tyteen4a03: when in doubt, kick
#1631 [13:04] <JudoJosh> any idea when the servers will be back in shape?
#1632 [13:04] <Wug> :)
#1633 [13:04] <Wug> JudoJosh: nope
#1634 [13:04] <ShaRose> mmm
#1635 [13:04] <Boreeas> Great policy :P
#1636 [13:04] <tyteen4a03> Wug: ah, quote of truth
#1637 [13:04] <Wug> probably within a few hours
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#1641 [13:04] <Wug> they usually arent down that long
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#1645 [13:04] <Boreeas> Oh, yes, this is a beautiful message
#1646 [13:05] <Wug> xales|nexus: didnt your mother ever tell you not to irc and drive at the same time
#1647 [13:05] <tyteen4a03> Wug: it would depend if his mother understand irc
#1648 [13:05] <xales|nexus> Nope. :D
#1649 [13:05] <tyteen4a03> *on if
#1650 [13:05] <Wug> !set motd 1,4 MOJANG.COM IS HAVING ISSUES. You may not be able to login to your account. FAQ: No, we don't know when it will be back. No, you can't un-migrate your account. No, there isn't anything we can do about it. Try again later.
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#1652 [13:05] <Wug> .set motd 1,4 MOJANG.COM IS HAVING ISSUES. You may not be able to login to your account. FAQ: No, we don't know when it will be back. No, you can't un-migrate your account. No, there isn't anything we can do about it. Try again later.
#1653 [13:05] <Vilicus> i thought this was minecrafthelp and not general chat wug?
#1654 [13:06] <Wug> Vilicus: it is. bad wug.
#1655 [13:06] <xales|nexus> brb some dooshe is trying to pass me :3
#1656 [13:06] <AmberK> So Wug, just to be PERFECTLY CLEAR
#1657 [13:06] * AmberK shows herself out
#1657 [13:06] <xales|nexus> (I'm not really driving)
#1658 [13:06] <JudoJosh> minecraft.net is having issues too apparently. mojang let me make an account but minecraft wont let me
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#1660 [13:07] <ShaRose> I can log in just fine with an un-migrated account
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#1662 [13:08] * Wug head-ons xales with a bus.
#1662 [13:08] <NBZ-mon> Wug has textual powers
#1663 [13:08] <Elystus> Wug, the problem is only occuring with migrated accounts
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#1666 [13:09] <Wug> Elystus: seems that way
#1667 [13:09] <Boreeas> Elystus: I don't want to explain to everyone what a migrated account is, do you?
#1668 [13:09] <Wug> ^
#1669 [13:09] <v5008> i don't
#1670 [13:09] <Elystus> Actually
#1671 [13:09] <Elystus> Give me a moment to edit a thread
#1672 [13:09] <Elystus> you can just give it out when people ask about it.
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#1674 [13:09] <v5008> i've got a migrated account, due to me thinking about getting scrolls
#1675 [13:10] <v5008> cobalt*
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#1677 [13:10] <Wug> v5008: in case you didnt notice, auth is borked for migrated accounts
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#1679 [13:10] <v5008> yeah, i just tried to get on a tekkit server and got badlogin
#1680 [13:10] <Wug> we hope that the 3 or 4 bold red banners convey the message, but people still manage to ignore it long enough to ask us
#1681 [13:11] <Cris> i got it too thats why i came here XD
#1682 [13:11] <Wug> Cris: read the bold red banners.
#1683 [13:11] <Cris> i know i saw XD
#1684 [13:11] <Wug> :D
#1685 [13:11] <Boreeas> When in doubt, ignore everything and spam the channel
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#1687 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> Wug: there is no bold red banner
#1688 [13:11] <tyteen4a03> just plain text ones
#1689 [13:12] <Wug> tyteen4a03: cycle
#1690 [13:12] <Wug> tyteen4a03: cycle
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#1693 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> I see AuBot's message, but it's not in red and bold
#1694 [13:12] <tyteen4a03> I see AuBot's message, but it's not in red and bold
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#1697 [13:12] <ShaRose> yes it is
#1698 [13:12] <lutzee> tyteen4a03: your client might be stripping the formatting
#1699 [13:12] <v5008> i hate it when auth is borked for accounts like mine
#1700 [13:12] <v5008> i hate it when auth is borked for accounts like mine
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#1702 [13:12] <Wug> must be your client
#1703 [13:12] <Boreeas> I don't get bold red from AuBot, but I get bold red from ChanServ
#1704 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: that's what I am suspecting
#1705 [13:13] <xales|nexus> Aug: just kick people that ask and tell them to read the red text in kick message.
#1706 [13:13] <lutzee> tyteen4a03: what client btw? :)
#1707 [13:13] <xales|nexus> Wug*
#1708 [13:13] * Wug akicks everyone
#1708 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: /ctcp VERSION? :P
#1709 [13:13] <ShaRose> totally
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#1711 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> lutzee: i.e mIRC
#1712 [13:13] <ShaRose> people need to ctcp more
#1713 [13:13] <Elystus> Wug: I edited the post of one of my mods to give a quick description. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1449834-bad-login-mojang-server-glitch/
#1714 [13:13] <lutzee> tyteen4a03: was easier to ask :p
#1715 [13:13] <tyteen4a03> :P
#1716 [13:14] <lutzee> Btw, i just moved to mint, finally..
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#1719 [13:15] <lutzee> I'm not sure whether it's running better on mint, or whether it is because i also turned on hyperthreading..
#1720 [13:15] <Wug> its definitely the hyperthreading
#1721 [13:15] <Wug> changing OSs wont make that much of a difference
#1722 [13:15] <lutzee> I would expect such from a modern OS
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#1725 [13:15] <Wug> on an unrelated note, I'm working on wugbot
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#1727 [13:16] * Elystus misses wugbot
#1727 [13:16] <Wug> can't say when it will be back but it will hopefully be before september
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#1729 [13:16] <Wug> ive just gotta get flood protection working
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#1731 [13:17] <Dereliktt> I can't login to my own server, say bad login
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#1734 [13:17] <Wug> Dereliktt: read the text
#1735 [13:17] <Dereliktt> Oh lol
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#1738 [13:18] <Dereliktt> well, at least I can still see what's happening on my server =)
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#1740 [13:19] <dylanrivers10000> why it say bad login
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#1742 [13:19] <lutzee> dylanrivers10000: read the red text above
#1743 [13:19] <Morrolan> Auth servers don't think that everyone's equal, currently.
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#1745 [13:19] <rymate1234> dylanrivers10000, mojang server glitch
#1746 [13:20] <Boreeas> Everyone is equal to the auth server, but unmigrated accounts are more equal than migrated ones
#1747 [13:20] <lutzee> Btw, can anyone link to the ubuntu paste of voxels commands at all? i lost the link when i installed mint :(
#1748 [13:20] <Wug> ??>> lutzee index
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#1750 [13:21] <Grim_> ffs
#1751 [13:21] <dylanrivers10000> why they have probles often
#1752 [13:21] <dylanrivers10000> i was going to buy a new mcctf kit
#1753 [13:21] <lutzee> Wug: the one with the descriptions
#1754 [13:22] <Storm1230> Now to play singleplayer ;) Going to try and find emeralds :D
#1755 [13:22] <Wug> just use them on yourself
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#1759 [13:22] <BlackF1re> Guys.. I bought minecraft legit.. my user is premium.. I can loggin... But I cant connect to any servers? It sais bad login if I am not premium but I AM my username is BlackF1re
#1760 [13:23] <Wug> BlackF1re: read the text
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#1762 [13:23] <Grim_> Why am I unable to post to #minecraft
#1763 [13:23] <bsxucf> BlackF1re: : I feel your pain. less than legitimate servers will let me connect, but not the legit ones I want to play on...
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#1765 [13:23] <CtrlAltDelZA> hello
#1766 [13:23] <dylanrivers10000> black it the same here its down
#1767 [13:23] <Wug> Grim_: read the error message. it says exactly why
#1768 [13:24] <Grim_> Cannot send to channel
#1769 [13:24] <Grim_> I am registered
#1770 [13:24] <lutzee> Grim_: then identify
#1771 [13:24] <Grim_> I have it won't allow me to
#1772 [13:24] <CtrlAltDelZA> can anyone assist me with an ingame mechanic prob I am having for a new server
#1773 [13:24] <Boreeas> Grim_ /ns identify <pass>
#1774 [13:24] <Wug> derp
#1775 [13:24] <Boreeas> Grim_: /ns regain <nick> <pass>
#1776 [13:25] <daner229> ok i see a fix for dedicated servers to fix this
#1777 [13:25] <Boreeas> daner229: Is it "Go into offline mode"?
#1778 [13:25] <Grim_> You cannot REGAIN yourself.
#1779 [13:25] <daner229> no
#1780 [13:25] <Wug> Grim_: identify then
#1781 [13:25] <daner229> and yes
#1782 [13:25] <Boreeas> Grim_: What error message do you get
#1783 [13:25] <Boreeas> When you identify, that is
#1784 [13:25] <Grim_> already logged in
#1785 [13:26] <Grim_> and I have no E-mail
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#1788 [13:26] <Grim_> as I have not re-registered.
#1789 [13:26] <Wug> Grim_: ask in #help
#1790 [13:26] <bsxucf> thanks for the info, all. have a good one.
#1791 [13:26] <Grim_> doing
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#1794 [13:27] <amkiller> oke i got the answer...mojang is having issues
#1795 [13:27] <daner229> the server runs in online mode setting tat to false allowes anyone to login. server verifcation seems bugged is what i can gather. i will be retesting soon
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#1797 [13:27] <Wug> amkiller: <3
#1798 [13:27] <Wug> daner229: dont turn online mode off
#1799 [13:27] <Boreeas> daner229: Yes, but no sane admin will go into offline mode
#1800 [13:27] <Wug> its a bad idea.
#1801 [13:27] <daner229> if the player is in offline mode also then they login as player
#1802 [13:28] <Wug> you can login as anyone you want, including admins.
#1803 [13:28] <Boreeas> daner229: Nope, I can login as any player if the server is in offline mode
#1804 [13:28] <amkiller> do not run servers in offline mode...you will get grieved
#1805 [13:28] <Wug> you can ban everyone, or trash the server.
#1806 [13:28] <MarethyuII> I have a whitelisted server, so I have nothing to worry about.
#1807 [13:28] <daner229> which is the risk when doing this
#1808 [13:28] <Wug> delete all the backups and then break the world
#1809 [13:28] <amkiller> it happened to me once
#1810 [13:28] <lutzee> wug http://paste.ubuntu.com/873641/ :p
#1811 [13:28] <CtrlAltDelZA> I am having a prob with a public area i created on a new server, namely a public farm. Users can not plant seeds back on the land farmed, any ideas y?
#1812 [13:28] <Boreeas> daner229: Please don't recommend it then
#1813 [13:28] <Boreeas> CtrlAltDelZA: #bukkit
#1814 [13:29] <CtrlAltDelZA> thanks
#1815 [13:29] <CtrlAltDelZA> thanks
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#1818 [13:30] <amkiller> strange thing is that i can login into minecraft but whe i join a server i get bad login...is that the current isseue?
#1819 [13:30] <Wug> amkiller: yes
#1820 [13:30] <amkiller> oke thnks wug
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#1822 [13:30] <amkiller> bye bye all
#1823 [13:30] <Quat> herllo
#1824 [13:30] <acati7> when i play in my offline world in a lan and change the game mode from survival to creative then back i cant break or place blocks. any ideas why?
#1825 [13:30] <Quat> hello
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#1827 [13:31] <Wug> acati7: are you too close to spawn?
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#1829 [13:31] <Wug> it might be a bug.
#1830 [13:31] <dylanrivers10000> omgthe problem is on top of the screren called skin problems
#1831 [13:31] <dylanrivers10000> stupid
#1832 [13:32] <Quat> That issue that going around, is only for people who migrated their account?
#1833 [13:32] <Wug> Quat: seems that way
#1834 [13:32] <acati7> i dont think so, how close is too close?
#1835 [13:32] <rackomint> Help! Account compromised!
#1836 [13:32] <rackomint> Someone is using my account from other IP?
#1837 [13:32] <Quat> pretty shitty XD
#1838 [13:32] <rackomint> Someone is using my account from other IP!
#1839 [13:32] <lutzee> rackomint: we cannot say, we are not mojang
#1840 [13:32] <Wug> rackomint: read the topic
#1841 [13:32] <Wug> its a false alarm.
#1842 [13:32] <rackomint> say Phew
#1843 [13:32] <rackomint> oops
#1844 [13:32] <rackomint> i wrote say
#1845 [13:32] <Quat> wich topic if i may ask?
#1846 [13:33] <Wug> Quat: all the text you read when you joined
#1847 [13:33] <dylanrivers10000> my accout is migrated and it shows my skin?
#1848 [13:33] <Wug> that you presumably did read, right
#1849 [13:33] <Wug> its not there so you can ignore it
#1850 [13:34] <Quat> ah alright, have you any idea if Mojang knows about this issue?
#1851 [13:34] <dylanrivers10000> downgrading works?
#1852 [13:34] <Wug> Quat: I'm sure their twitter feeds are being blasted with tweets as we speak.
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#1854 [13:34] <Quat> Won't be sure about that
#1855 [13:34] <Wug> either they know about it or they're all dead.
#1856 [13:34] <dylanrivers10000> minecraft .net said they havent posted since 3 days
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#1859 [13:35] <MarethyuII> so they are dead.
#1860 [13:35] <Quat> I don't think much people have migrated their account
#1861 [13:35] <lutzee> jeb is not the only person at mojang
#1862 [13:35] * Kohle|Busy is now known as :Kohle
#1863 [13:35] <lutzee> only jebs feed appears on minecraft.net the other mojangstas twitters appear on mojang.com
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#1865 [13:36] <mickey32111> Migrated accounts not being able to log in?
#1866 [13:36] <mickey32111> :/
#1867 [13:36] <mickey32111> I can't login my self
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#1869 [13:36] <lutzee> They can log into the game, just not onto servers
#1870 [13:36] <mickey32111> but I have migrated it
#1871 [13:36] <Quat> As far I know not
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#1874 [13:37] <Wug> Quat: believe me, its been down for an hour
#1875 [13:37] <Quat> that's not totaly true lutzee
#1876 [13:37] <Wug> they know.
#1877 [13:37] <Quat> I can join some servers
#1878 [13:37] <mickey32111> I do hope it will be fixed soon
#1879 [13:37] <dylanrivers10000> i know we could sue them for being dumb people not fixing a simple skin/ bad login problem
#1880 [13:37] <mickey32111> lol :P
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#1882 [13:38] <lutzee> dylanrivers10000: if it's so simple, fix it yourself
#1883 [13:38] <Quat> this server is working :speel.inmensia.nl:25565
#1884 [13:38] <Quat> this server is working : speel.inmensia.nl:25565
#1885 [13:38] <Quat> It is a Dutch server
#1886 [13:38] <mickey32111> probaly cracked so no auth is passed to the mojang servers
#1887 [13:39] <Quat> ah could be
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#1892 [13:39] <dylanrivers10000> where is mojang this is minecraft help
#1893 [13:39] <Hugmiester> has anybody been experiensing the bad login error?
#1894 [13:39] <Wug> Hugmiester: read the text.
#1895 [13:39] <helpme> bad login shit
#1896 [13:40] <Wug> helpme: read the text.
#1897 [13:40] <helpme> i have tried 1000 times
#1898 [13:40] <Hugmiester> so everyone has that?
#1899 [13:40] <Quat> Only migrated accounts
#1900 [13:40] <dylanrivers10000> guys are downgrades going on server?
#1901 [13:40] <Hugmiester> aaah right okay
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#1904 [13:40] <Hugmiester> that explains why some people are on the servers i try to accsess
#1905 [13:41] <Hugmiester> cheers dude :)
#1906 [13:41] <dylanrivers10000> GUYS DO we downgrade to 2.5
#1907 [13:41] <Wug> 2.5 isn't a version?
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#1909 [13:42] <Wug> minecraft is on 1.3
#1910 [13:42] <dylanrivers10000> 1.2.5
#1911 [13:42] <dylanrivers10000> mcnostalga
#1912 [13:42] <Wug> I dont see what that would do.
#1913 [13:42] <dylanrivers10000> read top
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#1915 [13:42] <dylanrivers10000> downgrades only possible
#1916 [13:42] <gecko1454> i keep having a bad login error
#1917 [13:42] <gecko1454> it suxs
#1918 [13:42] <Wug> dylanrivers10000: do you need to downgrade or something?
#1919 [13:43] <gecko1454> idk
#1920 [13:43] <Wug> gecko1454: read the text
#1921 [13:43] <dylanrivers10000> no i have mc nostalga
#1922 [13:43] <gecko1454> im trying it on my own tekkit sever
#1923 [13:43] <gecko1454> i saw it
#1924 [13:43] <Wug> dylanrivers10000: if you dont need to downgrade than it doesnt apply to you
#1925 [13:43] <Wug> gecko1454: then why did you ask anyway
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#1927 [13:44] <dylanrivers10000> because
#1928 [13:44] <gecko1454> cuz my friend is not havng any problems
#1929 [13:44] <gecko1454> so i was wondering i its something ive done
#1930 [13:44] <Wug> he probably couldnt get in again if he closed minecraft and reconnected
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#1932 [13:45] <gecko1454> well hes been doing just that with tekkit
#1933 [13:45] <dylanrivers10000> i couldent because it restarted
#1934 [13:45] <gecko1454> i think i might go play wot while they fix this
#1935 [13:45] <gecko1454> but thx anyways
#1936 [13:46] <dylanrivers10000> what wot
#1937 [13:46] <gecko1454> world of tanks
#1938 [13:46] <gecko1454> bye
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#1943 [13:46] <dylanrivers10000> ./ping!
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#1945 [13:46] <acati7> when i play in my offline world in a lan and change the game mode from survival to creative then back i cant break or place blocks. any ideas why?
#1946 [13:46] <dylanrivers10000> ./PONG!
#1947 [13:47] <mickey32111> surely a fix would be quite simple to pass the traffic over to the minecraft.net servers rather than the mojang.com servers
#1948 [13:47] <dylanrivers10000> yea
#1949 [13:47] <NIKallass> Trying to login on "http://www.mojang.com" and:Oops, an error occurred This exception has been logged with id 6bdj1o602. In game when trying to conect to the license server:bad login.
#1950 [13:47] <djmike88> Read this guys! https://twitter.com/mollstam/status/239780935648817153
#1951 [13:47] * Kohle is now known as :Kohle|Away
#1952 [13:47] <djmike88> Good news!
#1953 [13:47] <Katz> Awesome.
#1954 [13:47] <lutzee> Tobias is looking into the issues now
#1955 [13:47] <Katz> About time.
#1956 [13:48] <acati7> when i play in my offline world in a lan and change the game mode from survival to creative then back i cant break or place blocks. any ideas why?
#1957 [13:48] <djmike88> Thank God Twitter! :)
#1958 [13:48] <dylanrivers10000> wow look at this link they didnt know
#1959 [13:48] <NIKallass> Oh i see... so,let's wait
#1960 [13:49] <dylanrivers10000> https://twitter.com/mollstam/status/239780935648817153
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#1962 [13:49] <dylanrivers10000> copy and phaste it says that they didnt know
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#1964 [13:50] <dylanrivers10000> i am pissed because
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#1967 [13:50] <dylanrivers10000> https://twitter.com/mollstam/status/239780935648817153
#1968 [13:50] <dylanrivers10000> its mojang saying they just found out!
#1969 [13:50] <ShaRose> dylanrivers10000 spamming will just get you kicked or worse
#1970 [13:50] <ShaRose> and it also said that he wasn't on call
#1971 [13:51] <Storm1230> :P
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#1973 [13:52] <greatgamer9988> hi
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#1975 [13:53] <dylanrivers10000> MOJANG YOU THERE
#1976 [13:53] <greatgamer9988> I CANT LOGIN!
#1977 [13:53] <mollstam> remain calm
#1978 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> ?? dont/yell
#1979 [13:53] <greatgamer9988> ok
#1980 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> hi mollstam
#1981 [13:53] <tyteen4a03> don't use caps
#1982 [13:53] <greatgamer9988> ok
#1983 [13:54] <greatgamer9988> can you login into mc
#1984 [13:54] <Grim_> MOJANG.COM IS HAVING ISSUES <----------- sorry for caps
#1985 [13:54] <lutzee> poor tobias, but the issues seem to be limited to migrated accounts as far as we can tell
#1986 [13:54] <Storm1230> Hey mollstam :)
#1987 [13:55] <ShaRose> aaah
#1988 [13:55] <Grim_> Mojang.com is having issues
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#1990 [13:55] <ShaRose> see now he's gonna get pinged like nuts
#1991 [13:55] <Morrolan> Let's hide in a hole and wait for the storm to pass :)
#1992 [13:55] <mickey32111> Guys read the MOTD...
#1993 [13:55] <Storm1230> Lol
#1994 [13:55] <mickey32111> it clearly says Mojang.com is having issues...
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#1996 [13:55] <{unimatrix}> hey , i keep getting " failed to login: bad login "
#1997 [13:55] <tyteen4a03> mickey32111: thank you
#1998 [13:56] <Morrolan> {unimatrix} - *cough*
#1999 [13:56] <greatgamer9988> same thing unimatrix
#2000 [13:56] <{unimatrix}> sorry
#2001 [13:56] <{unimatrix}> :p
#2002 [13:56] <{unimatrix}> i noticed when i hit enter
#2003 [13:56] <{unimatrix}> maybe add some color
#2004 [13:56] <{unimatrix}> so it stands out?
#2005 [13:56] <Grim_> Mojang.com is having issues, seems anyone who logs into mc via there E-mail address is unable to log in, Mojang are yet to release an official response, but I say tough luck go play Oblivion instead!
#2006 [13:56] <mollstam> Would you like a press release?
#2007 [13:56] <dylanrivers10000> what is that
#2008 [13:56] <mollstam> :)
#2009 [13:56] <mickey32111> Grim_ read this: https://twitter.com/mollstam/status/239780935648817153
#2010 [13:56] <greatgamer9988> i shouldve kept my account unmigrated
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#2012 [13:57] <{unimatrix}> not on call this weekend ffs
#2013 [13:57] <{unimatrix}> they are never on call
#2014 [13:57] <winedinend69> hi all i got some issues is any one willing to help ?
#2015 [13:57] <Morrolan> {unimatrix} - Colours tend to make it stick out more for one half of the world, but make it invisible for the other half. We'd need a flashy text or so. ^.^
#2016 [13:57] <Morrolan> winedinend69 - What would that be?
#2017 [13:57] <winedinend69> no its not login issues
#2018 [13:57] <{unimatrix}> true
#2019 [13:57] <Grim_> *Mojang.com is having issues, seems anyone who logs into mc via there E-mail address is unable to log in, Mojang are yet to release an official response, Mollsatm says "Oh, seems to be trouble with logging in. Sorry I wasn’t aware, not on call this weekend, will have a look now. " but I say tough luck go play Oblivion instead!*
#2020 [13:58] <{unimatrix}> gona go play some startrek online
#2021 [13:58] <{unimatrix}> :p
#2022 [13:58] <winedinend69> my game will some times get suck with a movement keys it is not keyboard problem its a new board
#2023 [13:58] <acati7> when i play in my offline world in a lan and change the game mode from survival to creative then back i cant break or place blocks. any ideas why?
#2024 [13:58] <Morrolan> winedinend69 - I get that too every now and then, pressing the key again should fix it.
#2025 [13:58] <mickey32111> mollstam with a guess how long may this take to get the servers straight again?
#2026 [13:58] <lutzee> winedinend69: known issue, restart the game
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#2028 [13:58] <mollstam> mickey32111: a couple of minutes
#2029 [13:58] <winedinend69> and my other problem is that my skin wont update
#2030 [13:58] <mickey32111> kk cool
#2031 [13:59] <winedinend69> ive uploaded the same one about 10 times now still not working
#2032 [13:59] <Morrolan> winedinend69 - The skin system has been broken for the past few days already.
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#2034 [13:59] <Grim_> We are aiming to get the account servers up again by Easter 2020
#2035 [14:00] <{unimatrix}> to soon grim
#2036 [14:00] <{unimatrix}> try Xmas 2013
#2037 [14:00] <mollstam> logic
#2038 [14:00] <{unimatrix}> i mean 2023
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#2040 [14:00] <winedinend69> wouldnt it be better to put it back to 1.2 ? at least that worked i paid to play the game not to wait for it to be fixed non stop :/
#2041 [14:00] <BlackF1re> So guys I know so many people are asking you guys what is happening atm.. but I boight minecraft legit ...I just got the e-,mail.. but when I try to connect to a server.. it says bad login.. if I am nonpremium.. but i am .. I even found the paayment of 15 bucks from last year
#2042 [14:00] <Morrolan> winedinend69 - Minecraft versions aren't related to issue the authentication servers may, or may not, have. :)
#2043 [14:00] <Grim_> *Mojang.com is having issues, seems anyone who logs into mc via there E-mail address is unable to log in, Mojang are yet to release an official response, Mollsatm says "Oh, seems to be trouble with logging in(10:46 AM - 26 Aug 12). Sorry I wasn’t aware, not on call this weekend, will have a look now. " but grim says tough luck go play Oblivion instead!*
#2044 [14:00] <mickey32111> naa... 26-08-3013
#2045 [14:00] <xales|nexus> BlackF1re: As the text all around you says, the servers are currently having issues.
#2046 [14:01] <{unimatrix}> hey here is a funny thought for you , remember alpha ? they said the updates would improve in beta :p Remember beta ? same thing , now its "released" hahaha
#2047 [14:01] <{unimatrix}> hey here is a funny thought for you , remember alpha ? they said the updates would improve in beta :p Remember beta ? same thing , now its "released" hahaha
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#2049 [14:01] <{unimatrix}> whats next ?
#2050 [14:01] <Morrolan> Grim_ - Don't paste this every x seconds, please, it only clutters the channel up even more.
#2051 [14:01] <winedinend69> thanks any way guess i wont play till it works
#2052 [14:01] <mollstam> i think login is a bit more up now
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#2054 [14:01] <acati7> when i play in my offline world in a lan and change the game mode from survival to creative then back i cant break or place blocks. any ideas why?
#2055 [14:01] <Grim_> Ok, just figured no one reading MoTd
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#2057 [14:01] <{unimatrix}> [19:59:16] <@mollstam> i think login is a bit more up now , thats like saying the boat isnt sinking as hard now
#2058 [14:01] <Wug> mollstam: thankgodyourefinallyhere.jpg
#2059 [14:01] <Morrolan> acati7 - Never heard of this specific issue. Does a restart fix it?
#2060 [14:01] <mickey32111> Grim_: ikr
#2061 [14:01] <Wug> <3
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#2063 [14:02] <Storm1230> mollstam thanks <3 I can finally login :)
#2064 [14:02] <mickey32111> is it working again?
#2065 [14:02] <Morrolan> {unimatrix} - Look at it this way - fixing one hole in the boat's hull at a time ;D
#2066 [14:02] <acati7> no resart doensnt do anything
#2067 [14:02] <{unimatrix}> its up again btw
#2068 [14:02] <Grim_> mollstam: what part of your backside would you like me to kiss first?
#2069 [14:02] <xales|nexus> Morrolan: they have it in adventure mode
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#2071 [14:02] <Morrolan> acati7 - Oh, what command did you use to turn off creative?
#2072 [14:03] <Morrolan> xales|nexus - Ow, thanks.
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#2074 [14:03] <mollstam> Grim_: could you just stop talking? :D
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#2076 [14:03] <acati7> ./gamemode 2
#2077 [14:03] <Storm1230> its /gamemode 1 gamemode 2 is adventure
#2078 [14:04] <Morrolan> acati7 - Gamemode 2 is, like xales said, adventure mode. 0 is survival, 1 creative.
#2079 [14:04] <Storm1230> Where you cannot place/break blocks
#2080 [14:04] <Grim_> You asked that as a question how do I respond....?
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#2082 [14:04] <mollstam> haha, point
#2083 [14:04] <Grim_> But yeah ok sure.. xxx
#2084 [14:04] <Wug> Grim_: its a trick question. :D
#2085 [14:05] <acati7> that fixed it thank you tons!
#2086 [14:05] <Grim_> Mind was v polite most people just say STFU grim..
#2087 [14:06] <dylanrivers10000> guys mojang is back up
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#2089 [14:06] <Storm1230> We know dylan :)
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#2091 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> Grim_: I am already very polite by not kicking you for harassing Mojang staff
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#2093 [14:06] <X_angelz_X> Is mojang having issues?
#2094 [14:06] <Morrolan> tyteen4a03 - Don't you dare as long as he's just making fun of them.
#2095 [14:06] <tyteen4a03> X_angelz_X: Yes
#2096 [14:06] <Grim_> omg, harassing?..
#2097 [14:07] <tyteen4a03> Morrolan: nah, can't bother typing in commands
#2098 [14:07] <X_angelz_X> Thanks, so I can safetly assume that's why I continue to get " Bad Login " since I have a merged account?
#2099 [14:07] <tyteen4a03> X_angelz_X: Yes
#2100 [14:07] <Grim_> I offered to kiss his backside for working on a sunday when not on call.
#2101 [14:07] <X_angelz_X> xD Thanks tyteen :D I figured someone hacked my account :P
#2102 [14:07] <Grim_> man is a legend as far as I am concerned
#2103 [14:08] <tyteen4a03> Grim_: oh, I saw it as the reverse
#2104 [14:08] <Grim_> oh no pls, was utmost meant as compliment.
#2105 [14:09] <tyteen4a03> Grim_: don
#2106 [14:09] <tyteen4a03> Grim_: don't blame me, it's 2AM here
#2107 [14:09] <Wug> cmon guys
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#2109 [14:09] <Wug> stop arguing over pointless things.
#2110 [14:10] <Grim_> As in I would gladly kiss his backside.. if he wanted it kissed.. or send a big box of chocolates if not.
#2111 [14:10] * Morrolan blinks
#2111 [14:10] * Wug whacks Grim_
#2111 [14:10] <tyteen4a03> Wug: there is an argument?
#2112 [14:10] * Grim_ crys :(
#2112 [14:10] <tyteen4a03> where :o
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#2114 [14:10] <dylanrivers10000> guy i got on
#2115 [14:10] <tyteen4a03> dylanrivers10000: good for you
#2116 [14:11] <Grim_> bully
#2117 [14:11] <djmike88> They have fixed it.
#2118 [14:11] <tryy3|Coding> hi i got an question. how do you count how much ram a player uses in a server like with no plugins but using bukkit?
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#2120 [14:11] <djmike88> Yay!
#2121 [14:11] <Calinou> tryy3|Coding, you can't
#2122 [14:12] <Calinou> testing and guess-work are your best friends here
#2123 [14:12] <Storm1230> :D
#2124 [14:12] <Morrolan> Get ~100 players, divide the amount ofu sed RAM by 100, then you've got a close estimate to work with. :)
#2125 [14:12] <tryy3|Coding> Calinou but is'nt there any guessing number how much 1 player uses?
#2126 [14:12] <Calinou> get more people. :p
#2127 [14:13] <Grim_> You might be able to approximate a players ram consumption based on arbitrary calculation based on world with 1 player = X world with 2 player =y difference = approx extra ram usage.
#2128 [14:13] <Grim_> But, that is so crude a method.
#2129 [14:13] <Morrolan> There's lots of threads on Stackoverflow and Co, might want to check out some of those.
#2130 [14:13] <tryy3|Coding> sounds complicated i stick to what Calinou said testing...
#2131 [14:14] <Morrolan> What Grim_ described _was_ testing. ;)
#2132 [14:14] <Morrolan> What I described was reading, which is too complicated for lots of people indeed.
#2133 [14:14] <Grim_> Morrolan: but your calculation is caounting the base allocation.
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#2135 [14:14] <Grim_> that is going to be there regardless of plaer count
#2136 [14:14] <Grim_> player
#2137 [14:14] <Morrolan> Grim_ - Which is why I suggested to get 100 players, so that one won't matter much.
#2138 [14:14] <tryy3|Coding> Morrolan but Grim_ describe testing really complicated :S
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#2141 [14:15] <Calinou> try by yourself; things are often less complicated than they sound
#2142 [14:15] <Morrolan> True ;D
#2143 [14:15] <Grim_> nah player 1 = 386mb say
#2144 [14:15] <Calinou> trial and error is the best way to learn something
#2145 [14:15] <Grim_> player 2 = 500 mb
#2146 [14:15] <Grim_> say
#2147 [14:15] <Calinou> usually: 300MB base RAM + 100MB per client is the RAM used by MC servers
#2148 [14:15] <Calinou> (yes)
#2149 [14:15] <rymate1234> GUYS
#2150 [14:15] <Grim_> so 500-386
#2151 [14:15] <rymate1234> I THINK MOJANG.NET is working again
#2152 [14:15] <Morrolan> Really?
#2153 [14:15] <Grim_> = ram for additional player
#2154 [14:15] <Morrolan> I don't believe you. >:(
#2155 [14:16] <rymate1234> Well
#2156 [14:16] <Grim_> Yes. but then he said he is using bukkit
#2157 [14:16] <djmike88> Minecarft is wroking now.
#2158 [14:16] <tryy3|Coding> Calinou that sounds fairly much :S i have'nt seen any server hoster recoamnd only 5-6 people per gb?
#2159 [14:16] <Grim_> so up scale to +86mb
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#2161 [14:16] <Morrolan> tryy3|Coding - Frankly, most server hosters want you to buy their stuff, they don't want to give you a fair estimate of how much you can do.
#2162 [14:17] <Grim_> yup.
#2163 [14:17] <Calinou> tryy3|Coding, don't listen to server hosters of course :p
#2164 [14:17] <Calinou> don't listen to anyone who sells stuff actually
#2165 [14:17] <Morrolan> I've seen hosters claimint that, with 200MB, you can host 100 player. <.<
#2166 [14:17] <Morrolan> claiming*
#2167 [14:17] <tryy3|Coding> Calinou but iam a hoster ^^
#2168 [14:17] <Calinou> don't listen to yourself then :}
#2169 [14:17] <tryy3|Coding> Morrolan ok those people i will never listen to... :S
#2170 [14:17] <tryy3|Coding> Calinou hehe :P
#2171 [14:17] <Morrolan> Yet another hosting service for MC servers? Yay!
#2172 [14:17] <Grim_> You really only need about 100-200mbs per xtra player...
#2173 [14:17] <Grim_> You really only need about 100-200mbs per xtra player...
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#2175 [14:18] <Grim_> unless, you allow them all to use vox sniper/ we
#2176 [14:18] <Grim_> then you need maybe 1gb per player
#2177 [14:18] <tryy3|Coding> Morrolan well i will probly start with webhosting and mc servers due to those stuff is the stuff i know so much and on request i can host other but no set price for those
#2178 [14:18] <Morrolan> Soon we'll have more hosting providers than servers. (And more servers than players, anyway)
#2179 [14:18] <tryy3|Coding> Grim_ ah k good to know
#2180 [14:18] <tryy3|Coding> Morrolan lol :P
#2181 [14:19] <Calinou> Morrolan, haha true, from mcmyadmin's website, a MCMA server has 0.2 players on average
#2182 [14:19] <Morrolan> Sounds just like what I'm talking about. :)
#2183 [14:19] <Grim_> Tbh you might be better to Re-sell exhisting services tryy3|Coding
#2184 [14:19] <Morrolan> Then one has to add value to it though, else none will care. ^.^
#2185 [14:19] <tryy3|Coding> Grim_ i got computer just standing here so... :D
#2186 [14:19] <Grim_> But how Fat is your connection?
#2187 [14:19] <tryy3|Coding> iam not counting on having professional hosting directly ::S
#2188 [14:20] <Grim_> AS in presumably you are on a home Broadband connection.
#2189 [14:20] <Grim_> Thus that is where your main issue is going to fall latency.
#2190 [14:20] <tryy3|Coding> fat = how many people or how fast :P
#2191 [14:21] <Grim_> As in unless you can serve @ say 100mbs and receive at 1GBps you are going to be limited.
#2192 [14:21] <Grim_> Yes, fat as in how fat your pipe is.
#2193 [14:21] <tryy3|Coding> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2141747926.png but iam hoping to get to my dad more so i can move my computers there, he got faster :D
#2194 [14:22] <tryy3|Coding> he got 100/10 but i think i get up to 100/20 there
#2195 [14:22] <Grim_> you can probably host for amximum of 10 players
#2196 [14:22] <Grim_> maximum
#2197 [14:22] <lutzee> really now?
#2198 [14:22] <Grim_> on that speed.
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#2200 [14:22] <tryy3|Coding> 100 down and 10 up (i know its the upload that counts)
#2201 [14:22] <lutzee> I hosted 10 people on a 3mb upspeed
#2202 [14:22] <tryy3|Coding> ye
#2203 [14:22] <Morrolan> That's 2.5 MB up. That won't get you far.
#2204 [14:23] <tryy3|Coding> i have hosted 30 player server once :p
#2205 [14:23] <Grim_> But 10 is cool number
#2206 [14:23] <tryy3|Coding> that day i have about 1-2mb up
#2207 [14:23] <tryy3|Coding> had*
#2208 [14:23] <Grim_> And everyone online..
#2209 [14:23] <tryy3|Coding> ye
#2210 [14:23] <Grim_> like full 30 players at once.
#2211 [14:23] <Grim_> ok..
#2212 [14:23] <tryy3|Coding> ye
#2213 [14:23] <Grim_> that is pretty good.
#2214 [14:23] <tryy3|Coding> :p
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#2216 [14:26] <mollstam> @__@
#2217 [14:26] <lmjevi> Can someone help me? Everytime I download the mac zip file, my comp tells me the file is damaged and must be deleted.
#2218 [14:26] <mollstam> lmjevi: try right clicking on the Minecraft app and select Open
#2219 [14:26] <Grim_> approx 20KBytes/s of upstream per player... but then your overheads come with map uploads..
#2220 [14:27] <Grim_> Needing upto 2mb's per player
#2221 [14:27] <Calinou> Grim_, no, 0.3mbits down/up
#2222 [14:27] <Calinou> lmjevi, or try using the .jar launcher (marked as Linux/Other)
#2223 [14:27] <lmjevi> Still tells me the same thing.
#2224 [14:27] <Grim_> 0.3mbits = 30Kbytes/s approx no?
#2225 [14:27] <Wug> you can get about 8 people per megabit
#2226 [14:27] <lutzee> lmjevi: on mac?
#2227 [14:27] <Calinou> mollstam, you should rename the "Linux/Other" launcher to "Launcher that works" :P
#2228 [14:27] <Wug> in my experience.
#2229 [14:27] <Calinou> Wug, not at all
#2230 [14:27] <Elystus> Hey Mollstam
#2231 [14:27] <lmjevi> K I'll try the linux one.
#2232 [14:28] <Calinou> 2 people + me on my 2.4/0.4 connection: lag
#2233 [14:28] <lutzee> ??> lmjevi mac/gatekeeper
#2234 [14:28] <VoxelHead> lmjevi: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#2235 [14:28] <Calinou> my CPU: i7, 12GB RAM
#2236 [14:28] <Calinou> definitely not the specs
#2237 [14:28] <Elystus> Mollstam: Is it all fixed now, if so I will remove the threads about it on the forums. :P
#2238 [14:28] <Wug> Calinou: depends on what theyre doing
#2239 [14:28] <Grim_> I have about 1mbs upstream and my connection serves 8 players.. they deal with the occasional lag.
#2240 [14:28] <Wug> also youre on windows.
#2241 [14:28] <Calinou> doesn't matter; same thing happens on linux
#2242 [14:28] <mollstam> Elystus: I can't tell you if it will be up in five minutes, but for now it is
#2243 [14:29] <Elystus> mollstam: Okay thanks :)
#2244 [14:29] <Grim_> I would love to know what the issue was.
#2245 [14:29] <Grim_> ahh well.
#2246 [14:29] <lmjevi> Oh, so I can unblock the app. I just downloaded the jar one though, and it's working. Will using the jar instead affect gameplay or processing at all?
#2247 [14:30] <lutzee> mollstam: gatekeeper likes to block minecraft as it's non appstore app
#2248 [14:30] <lutzee> lmjevi: not really, just another form of the launcher
#2249 [14:30] <lutzee> I guess the app is more accessible though
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#2251 [14:30] <lmjevi> Okay. For now I'll use the jar launcher. If I have problems with other apps in the future, I'll unblock it. That's kind of stupid.
#2252 [14:30] <lmjevi> Thanks guys!
#2253 [14:30] <Calinou> lmjevi, it doesn't, but it tends to work better, although it can be harder to run
#2254 [14:30] <Calinou> (on some OSes)
#2255 [14:31] <Lewes> is the mojang accounts issue still broken?
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#2257 [14:31] <Grim_> no Lewes
#2258 [14:31] <Grim_> is working for now.
#2259 [14:31] <Wug> wuggybots flood protection is coming nicely
#2260 [14:32] <Grim_> Until Tobias spills his coffeee on the Shard again.
#2261 [14:32] <Wug> Grim_: I dont think he sleeps in the datacenter
#2262 [14:32] <Wug> though I would if I were him
#2263 [14:32] <Wug> servers are so warm <3
#2264 [14:33] <Grim_> Probably nice and warm there + you get the low level hum of the equipment. mmm
#2265 [14:33] <Corin> THe sound of mass computer fans makes me sleepy ;w;
#2266 [14:33] <Grim_> See I blame it all on Coffee..
#2267 [14:33] <Grim_> See I blame it all on Coffee..
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#2269 [14:33] <Grim_> mmmm Java.
#2270 [14:33] <lutzee> Corin: lucky, some people can't sleep with them going :p
#2271 [14:33] <lutzee> I'm fine with it though
#2272 [14:34] <Corin> I preffer them on than off :P
#2273 [14:34] <Corin> The sound of your hardware not dying faster
#2274 [14:34] <Grim_> Any way I was going to be silent as per request. so unless someone rattles me.. I am :|
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#2276 [14:35] <tryy3|Coding> hmm further question on servers, i will soon upgrade to 16gb ram (because i can not because i most... :D, and does like websites and such needs alot of brandwith?
#2277 [14:35] <Corin> Just get a cheap webhost
#2278 [14:36] <lutzee> tryy3|Coding: depends how much you put on the site :p
#2279 [14:36] <Corin> Less process's/bandwith usage
#2280 [14:36] <Grim_> Depends on expected traffic and content.
#2281 [14:37] <Grim_> I would always put my site outside of my network.. and let someone else deal with the A-bombs DDOS attacks etc..
#2282 [14:37] <Corin> ^
#2283 [14:37] <Grim_> Not to mention as a general rule it works out less expensive.
#2284 [14:37] <Corin> Yup
#2285 [14:37] <tryy3|Coding> Grim_ for a website with say 100 views a day?
#2286 [14:38] <Corin> das low
#2287 [14:38] <Grim_> I would always put my site outside of my network.. and let someone else deal with the A-bombs DDOS attacks etc..
#2288 [14:38] <tryy3|Coding> what is a general number of views per day then -.-
#2289 [14:38] <Corin> 1000 maybe more
#2290 [14:38] <tryy3|Coding> Grim_ i hear you
#2291 [14:38] <Grim_> let me see random 123.124.125:80
#2292 [14:38] <Boreeas> That depends on the popularity of your website
#2293 [14:38] <tryy3|Coding> Corin then how much in aprox does it take?
#2294 [14:38] <Grim_> hello world beacon.
#2295 [14:38] <Grim_> and..
#2296 [14:39] <Corin> A single core processor with 28MB RAM
#2297 [14:39] <Grim_> Also then domain pointing.
#2298 [14:39] <Grim_> static IP.
#2299 [14:39] <Grim_> or. dyndns.
#2300 [14:39] <tryy3|Coding> freedns D:
#2301 [14:39] <Corin> loldyndns
#2302 [14:39] <tryy3|Coding> :D*
#2303 [14:39] <Calinou> Grim_, that's not an IP :p
#2304 [14:39] <Grim_> and.. it all becomes a complicated blob
#2305 [14:39] <Corin> lolfreeDNS
#2306 [14:39] <Corin> Any free DNS solution is usually bad
#2307 [14:40] <tryy3|Coding> afraid.org is a free dns site :D
#2308 [14:40] <Grim_> No just a random set of numbers to pose as a IP
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#2311 [14:40] <Grim_> you knew what I was getting at.
#2312 [14:40] <tryy3|Coding> or well they got premium domains but many free ones i like them
#2313 [14:40] <Corin> tryy3|Coding, if it's free, it's usually bad.
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#2315 [14:40] <tkdbb156> has anyone else ha the problem off updates failing
#2316 [14:40] <Grim_> My point entirely.
#2317 [14:40] <tryy3|Coding> Corin depends where you find them :D
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#2319 [14:40] <Corin> no, it's a general rule tryy3|Coding
#2320 [14:41] <tryy3|Coding> not for me :D
#2321 [14:41] <Corin> Anything to do with webhosting that is free
#2322 [14:41] <Corin> Is usually bad
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#2324 [14:41] <Morrolan> And most of the stuff which is not free, is bad, too.
#2325 [14:41] <tryy3|Coding> anything that is free is often good in 1 way, you dont need to spend any money :P
#2326 [14:41] <Morrolan> "99% of everything is crap"
#2327 [14:41] <tkdbb156> can anyone help me troubleshoot
#2328 [14:41] <Morrolan> tkdbb156 - What's your exact issue?
#2329 [14:41] <tkdbb156> Sturgeon's Law is actually 90%
#2330 [14:41] <Corin> "Oh we dropped your DNS entries off hte side of the earth, but you don't pay shit so we don't have to fix it or help you!"
#2331 [14:41] <Morrolan> tkdbb156 - I'm a pessimist.
#2332 [14:42] <tkdbb156> it is when i update it stops mid update
#2333 [14:42] <Morrolan> Security software?
#2334 [14:42] <tryy3|Coding> Corin but you dont need to pay anything ;)
#2335 [14:42] <tkdbb156> disabled and tryed a few min ago
#2336 [14:42] <Corin> I would rather pay for a DNS solution than have my sites randomly drop off the earth, tryy3|Coding
#2337 [14:42] <Morrolan> What file is it downloading when it stops?
#2338 [14:43] <tryy3|Coding> Corin true
#2339 [14:43] <Grim_> tryy3|Coding: http://tucows.com/
#2340 [14:43] <tkdbb156> nothing specific it will just stop during either jlwg or the minecraft .jar itself
#2341 [14:43] <Calinou> paid != better
#2342 [14:43] <tryy3|Coding> Grim_ whats that?
#2343 [14:43] <Calinou> same thing as proprietary != better
#2344 [14:43] <Morrolan> My bet is still on security software, tkdbb156. Be it as it be, do you know how to launch it through the console
#2345 [14:43] <Morrolan> ?*
#2346 [14:43] <Grim_> AWT dependency issue
#2347 [14:43] <Grim_> Just have a browse
#2348 [14:43] <Corin> yes but at least you have somewhere to stand if you pay for it
#2349 [14:44] <tkdbb156> console launch?
#2350 [14:44] <Corin> If they delete your DNS records for something that is free
#2351 [14:44] <Corin> They aren't liable
#2352 [14:44] <Corin> You don't pay for a service
#2353 [14:44] <Corin> Whereas if you pay, you have somewhere to stand
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#2355 [14:44] <Grim_> Ubuntu tkdbb156 ?
#2356 [14:44] <Grim_> or Linux I assume?
#2357 [14:44] <tkdbb156> i use PC
#2358 [14:44] <Calinou> Grim_, why do you assume he uses linux?
#2359 [14:44] <Calinou> never assume this
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#2361 [14:45] <tyteen4a03> iris v0.90 -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT
#2362 [14:45] <tyteen4a03> so no Grim_, he's not running ubuntu
#2363 [14:45] <Grim_> Was a prompt thanks tyteen4a03 :~)
#2364 [14:45] <Calinou> tkdbb156, if you use AVG disable the "link scanner" module.
#2365 [14:45] <tkdbb156> ok will try that
#2366 [14:46] <tryy3|Coding> is there any hosting i can do that wont take THAT much bandwith? :D
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#2368 [14:46] <Corin> You run a MC server
#2369 [14:46] <Corin> Don't complain about bandwith
#2370 [14:46] <Corin> bandwidth*
#2371 [14:46] <tkdbb156> THANK YOU
#2372 [14:46] <Grim_> tryy3|Coding: Go for it, but leave a feedback area, users will soon tell you if issue with your service, ie. slow browsing.
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#2374 [14:47] <Grim_> As for MC Server again go for it..
#2375 [14:47] <tkdbb156> it has been happening since 1.2 i even tweeted at Jeb last night for help
#2376 [14:47] <tryy3|Coding> Grim_ ok
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#2378 [14:48] <Angus_Miguel> anyone here?
#2379 [14:48] <Corin> no
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#2381 [14:48] <Corin> :3
#2382 [14:49] <Boreeas> Nobody but us chickens
#2383 [14:49] <Angus_Miguel> so, i deleted everything inside my .minecraft folder so i can get clean files, but now when i try to log in it says it's not downloaded, any ideias of what to do?
#2384 [14:49] <Grim_> tryy3|Coding: I always host my stuff inside my DMZ as a testbed before putting it out in the wild.
#2385 [14:49] <Grim_> Just I owuld be inclined to throw the server into the DMZ..
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#2387 [14:49] <Grim_> and keep it remote to your DMZ.
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#2390 [14:51] <tryy3|Coding> Grim_ hmm... what is DMZ?
#2391 [14:51] <Grim_> perimeter networking
#2392 [14:51] <Calinou> demiliatrized zone - forwards ALL ports
#2393 [14:51] <Angus_Miguel> anyone knows hot to help me?
#2394 [14:51] <Angus_Miguel> ooooh fixed
#2395 [14:51] <Grim_> So stick it outside of your LAN
#2396 [14:52] <Grim_> basicly.
#2397 [14:52] <Grim_> and only connect to it via Internet.
#2398 [14:52] <Grim_> not directly.
#2399 [14:52] <tryy3|Coding> oh... is there any guides how to do it? :P
#2400 [14:52] <Grim_> That is from any other machine within your own network.
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#2404 [14:53] <Grim_> Well this is MC help.
#2405 [14:53] * Wug detects unrest on the interwebs
#2405 [14:53] <Grim_> not Networking 101
#2406 [14:53] <Calinou> more ontopic discussion can be found on ##linux @ freenode
#2407 [14:53] <tryy3|Coding> :P you could just skip to answer me ;9
#2408 [14:53] <Calinou> </sarcasm>
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#2410 [14:54] <Grim_> what I was getting at ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_%28computing%29#Services_in_the_DMZ
#2411 [14:54] <Wug> gv: shouldnt you be at work
#2412 [14:54] <Grim_> and www.w3c.org
#2413 [14:54] <Wug> you've only done 80 hours this week
#2414 [14:55] <gv> really. Did we really need chanserv and aubot with the same msg?
#2415 [14:55] <gv> Pfft
#2416 [14:55] <gv> It's sunday
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#2418 [14:55] <Wug> thanks for reminding me
#2419 [14:55] <Calinou> gv is GreyVulpine I presume? why this name?
#2420 [14:55] <Wug> login has been fixed
#2421 [14:55] <gv> Cookie for the detective
#2422 [14:55] <Wug> I wonder how many bots will be necessary for people to actually read it
#2423 [14:55] <Grim_> tryy3|Coding: basically have a go..
#2424 [14:56] <tryy3|Coding> Grim_ oh thanks now i understands :D
#2425 [14:56] <Wug> I think they will if we entirely fill their screens with red text.
#2426 [14:56] <gv> Not enough.
#2427 [14:57] <Wug> .set motd Welcome to #minecrafthelp! Please ask your question, don't ask to ask or wait for someone to help you.
#2428 [14:57] <Wug> .siteup
#2429 [14:57] <Wug> I think thats all of them
#2430 [14:57] <Wug> >.>
#2431 [14:57] <Grim_> All of those security issues can be bypassed by using an external host service. as it is no longer your issue, but only if you stump up about $15 pcm
#2432 [14:58] <Grim_> depending on your requirements.
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#2434 [14:58] <gv> Looks good
#2435 [14:58] * gv points at /topix
#2435 [14:58] <NBZ-mon> Good motd
#2436 [15:01] <Wug> There are currently issues with in-game ... what?
#2437 [15:01] <Wug> I don't remember
#2438 [15:01] <Wug> (from the topic)
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#2440 [15:01] * Wug punts VoxelHead
#2440 [15:02] <lutzee> wug skin servers
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#2442 [15:05] <Grim_> and finally tryy3|Coding http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
#2443 [15:05] <Grim_> and poke around @ apache.org
#2444 [15:06] <Grim_> You will find a load of load testing tools etc.
#2445 [15:07] * Grim_ go's back to silent :| unless summoned
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#2449 [15:13] <lepetitpapier01> I'm trying to test out the classic and demo modes on my computer but just keep getting security certificate errors. when i click to allow them, then i just end up with a white box or black box. i've tried three different browsers (firefox, safari, chrome) and verified that java and all my other plugins/extensions are up to date.
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#2451 [15:14] <lepetitpapier01> i just want to make sure that i can play before i buy it + download it.
#2452 [15:14] <lutzee> ??> lepetitpapier01 win/dxdiag
#2453 [15:14] <kian> hello, if i download 12w24b i get an winrar file and i need an .jar file. anyone help
#2454 [15:14] <VoxelHead> lepetitpapier01: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#2455 [15:14] <VoxelHead> lepetitpapier01: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
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#2457 [15:14] <lutzee> kian, change the file type to .jar
#2458 [15:14] <kian> how do i do that
#2459 [15:15] <lepetitpapier01> i am on a macbook pro running 10.6.8
#2460 [15:15] <NBZ-mon> .,. (-.-0 .,.
#2461 [15:15] <lutzee> kian: http://www.mediacollege.com/microsoft/windows/extension-change.html
#2462 [15:15] <Kanegasi> kain: right click and rename
#2463 [15:15] <kian> thanks
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#2465 [15:15] <lutzee> lepetitpapier01: oh... you can't play classic on mac,
#2466 [15:15] <lutzee> as for the demo i am not sure
#2467 [15:16] <lepetitpapier01> well that explains it! can you download it and play that way? (I have a PC for work but prefer not to load games on my work machine) :/
#2468 [15:16] <kian> but if i rename its an winrar file called minecraft.jar
#2469 [15:16] <Morrolan> Silly WinRAR.
#2470 [15:16] <Morrolan> Right click -> Open with -> Java Runtime
#2471 [15:16] <Kanegasi> kian: follow lutzee's link then
#2472 [15:17] <Kanegasi> kian: you need extensions to be shown
#2473 [15:17] <lutzee> Kanegasi: winrar is set to be default program
#2474 [15:17] <Kanegasi> ahh
#2475 [15:17] <kian> how do i get that
#2476 [15:17] <lutzee> lepetitpapier01: you can try on the work PC, i can give a guide for removing it afterwards
#2477 [15:17] <Morrolan> Right click -> Open with -> Java Runtime, make sure to tick the checkbox which says something like "always open wit this..."
#2478 [15:18] <lepetitpapier01> cool thx! ill try there.
#2479 [15:18] <tinjaw> I'm looking to confirm that if I am running a server for me and my friends, we can all use different texture packs if we want and it won't cause problems. Is that correct?
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#2481 [15:18] <kian> is it possible that i dont have java runtime
#2482 [15:18] <Morrolan> tinjaw - Yea, the server doesn't care about texture packs at all.
#2483 [15:18] <tinjaw> thx
#2484 [15:18] <Morrolan> kian - Uh, it might be called slightly different. Check for anything with "Java" in it.
#2485 [15:19] <kian> thanks
#2486 [15:19] <Morrolan> Might be called something like "Java(TM) Platform SE binary"
#2487 [15:19] <kian> i dont have that either
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#2489 [15:20] <Kanegasi> kian: while you are in the "open with" window, click the "Browse.." button
#2490 [15:20] <Kanegasi> kian: then go to program files/java/jre7 or jre6
#2491 [15:20] <Kanegasi> select java.exe
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#2493 [15:22] <tinjaw> Am I correct in believing that ModLoader is basically an SDK?
#2494 [15:22] <kian> where is the java file usually (sorry im dumb)
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#2496 [15:22] <Grim_> Can I ask, kian are you saying you do not have Java installed?
#2497 [15:22] <kian> i think i do
#2498 [15:22] <Grim_> And what OS are you using?
#2499 [15:23] <kian> do you mean windows 7?
#2500 [15:23] <Grim_> yes :)
#2501 [15:23] <Kanegasi> yes
#2502 [15:23] <kian> OS is operating system right?
#2503 [15:23] <Kanegasi> yes
#2504 [15:23] <Grim_> And recap me on what the issue is?
#2505 [15:23] <kian> ok
#2506 [15:23] <lutzee> ??> kian java/version
#2507 [15:23] <VoxelHead> kian: (java/version) You can see which version of Java you have installed by going to the following page:
#2508 [15:23] <VoxelHead> kian: (java/version) http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
#2509 [15:24] <kian> i had 7 update 6
#2510 [15:24] <kian> but im gonna download again
#2511 [15:24] <Kanegasi> it seems kian is trying to run the weekly release, but is confused on why he got a .rar file instead of a .jar
#2512 [15:24] <kian> yes
#2513 [15:24] <lutzee> kian: it's advised you use java 6
#2514 [15:24] <lutzee> ?? java/1.6
#2515 [15:24] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2516 [15:24] <kian> ok
#2517 [15:24] <Kanegasi> kian: if you have java installed, there would be a Java folder in your program files
#2518 [15:25] <kian> i know but i was install a few days ago and maybe it automaticly got of the computer so the new version could get download
#2519 [15:25] <kian> *downloaded
#2520 [15:26] <kian> but i didnt have enough time and i quitted it to early
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#2529 [15:35] <Domosokillz> i am getting a Java Virtual Machine fatal error when i want to open my log in screen for minecraft.
#2530 [15:36] <xales|nexus_> Has it worked before?
#2531 [15:36] <Domosokillz> yea it's been working since i got it..
#2532 [15:37] <xales|nexus_> Did you do something before the problem started?
#2533 [15:37] <Domosokillz> it started when i downloaded a mod, then it would not start up i got rid of the mod and it continued.
#2534 [15:37] <xales|nexus_> Such as updating Java, trying to install a mod...?
#2535 [15:37] <xales|nexus_> Okay then.
#2536 [15:37] <xales|nexus_> ??< Domosokillz win/reinst
#2537 [15:37] <xales|nexus_> Err
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#2539 [15:38] <xales|nexus_> ??> Domosokillz win/reinst
#2540 [15:38] <lHead> Domosokillz: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2541 [15:38] <kylepatrick> we are getting an error for the last week. double click on minecraft and it says "error: could not create java virtual machine" "error: a fatal exception has occured. program will exit"
#2542 [15:38] <VoxelHead> Domosokillz: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
#2543 [15:38] <Domosokillz> k
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#2545 [15:39] <xales|nexus_> kylepatrick: Follow the instructions that VoxelHead just gave to Domosokillz. If it doesn't fix it, uninstall every version of Java then install the latest version from here:
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#2547 [15:39] <xales|nexus_> ??> kylepatrick java/1.6
#2548 [15:39] <VoxelHead> kylepatrick: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2549 [15:39] <Wug> kylepatrick: skip staight to ^
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#2551 [15:39] <Wug> straight*
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#2553 [15:39] <Wug> reinstalling minecraft wont fix that
#2554 [15:40] <xales|nexus_> Wug: I'm on my phone so your turn now. :D
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#2557 [15:43] <kian> i have java installed but still no java thiny
#2558 [15:43] <kian> *thingy
#2559 [15:43] <xales|nexus_> Wug
#2560 [15:44] <kian> nevermind
#2561 [15:44] <Wug> java thingy?
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#2563 [15:45] <Wug> I'm not familiar.
#2564 [15:45] <kian> ive got the new snapshot as an winrar file, and i need it to be an .jar file
#2565 [15:45] <Wug> it is a jar file
#2566 [15:46] <kian> no i get it as an winrar thing
#2567 [15:47] <xales|nexus_> It is a jar file. You have Winrar set to open jar files.
#2568 [15:47] <xales|nexus_> Which you shouldn't. You shouldn't even have Winrar. It's a piece of shit.
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#2570 [15:47] <kian> how do i set it to open jar files
#2571 [15:47] <xales|nexus_> how do I use Google
#2572 [15:48] <kian> sorry, how do i not let it do that
#2573 [15:48] <Wug> kian: just follow the instructions
#2574 [15:48] <xales|nexus_> http://lmgtfy.com/windows+default+open+with
#2575 [15:48] <Wug> just because it has a winrar icon doesnt mean its a different file
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#2577 [15:49] <kian> link is broken
#2578 [15:49] <xales|nexus_> Whatever.
#2579 [15:49] <xales|nexus_> Listen to Wug
#2580 [15:49] <kian> ok
#2581 [15:49] <Wug> xales: you forgot the ?q=
#2582 [15:50] <kian> wug, how do i do that
#2583 [15:50] <Wug> kian: how do you follow a tutorial?
#2584 [15:50] <Wug> you know what
#2585 [15:50] <Wug> just stick with the regular version
#2586 [15:50] <xales|nexus_> Wug: I'm on a phone
#2587 [15:50] <Wug> 1.4 will be out whenever it comes out.
#2588 [15:50] <kian> i dont like you
#2589 [15:50] <kian> LOL
#2590 [15:51] <Wug> that's great, now listen up
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#2592 [15:51] <Wug> I don't get paid for this. I refuse to teach everyone who comes along elementary computer skills
#2593 [15:52] <kian> ok
#2594 [15:52] <xales|nexus_> Wug, stop lying
#2595 [15:52] <xales|nexus_> Or I'll dock your pay
#2596 [15:52] <Wug> officially, we don't help with mods or snapshots in this channel anyway
#2597 [15:52] <xales|nexus_> Bad employee >:|
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#2599 [15:52] <Wug> for precisely those reasons.
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#2601 [15:52] <locknlol> Hello, does mojang have an email I can contact them about copyright infringement?
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#2603 [15:53] <Wug> You can read it in the channel topic: "We do not support Classic or pre-releases/snapshots."
#2604 [15:53] <Wug> locknlol: uhh. what
#2605 [15:53] <locknlol> I want to report a website for violationg Mojangs copyright (their website.)
#2606 [15:53] <locknlol> I was wondering if there was an email I could shoot that off to
#2607 [15:53] <Wug> they probably know about it
#2608 [15:53] <locknlol> Doubtful
#2609 [15:53] <locknlol> it was put up this morning
#2610 [15:54] <Wug> what site
#2611 [15:54] <xales|nexus_> If it's minor, report it yourself to the website host
#2612 [15:54] <Wug> mollstam: you still around
#2613 [15:54] <Wug> probably not
#2614 [15:54] <locknlol> It's a phishing website
#2615 [15:54] <locknlol> so I'd rather not post in public
#2616 [15:54] <Wug> message it to me
#2617 [15:54] <kian> xales nexus could you help me
#2618 [15:54] <locknlol> Will do
#2619 [15:54] <Wug> /msg wug <stuff goes here>
#2620 [15:54] <xales|nexus_> kian: No, because you are incapable of following the tutorial.
#2621 [15:55] <kian> ok
#2622 [15:55] <kian> is there an channel for snapshot help
#2623 [15:55] <kian> for newbs like me
#2624 [15:55] <xales|nexus_> No.
#2625 [15:55] <locknlol> And yes, I'm in contact with their service provider.
#2626 [15:55] <xales|nexus_> If you can't follow basic instructions, then you are beyond help.
#2627 [15:55] <kian> ok
#2628 [15:55] <xales|nexus_> What do you think we are going to do other than repeat the exact same instructions?
#2629 [15:56] <Grim> My curiosity is killing me.
#2630 [15:56] <kian> shoot me
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#2633 [15:56] <Grim> I am thinking Bethesda..
#2634 [15:56] <Grim> trololol
#2635 [15:56] <xales|nexus_> kian: Go back to the tutorial, and follow the instructions.
#2636 [15:57] <xales|nexus_> If you can't do that, then don't play with the snapshot.
#2637 [15:57] <xales|nexus_> They aren't meant for users anyway, they are intended for mod developers.
#2638 [15:57] <kian> but its says that the link is broken
#2639 [15:57] <xales|nexus_> That link isn't for anything.
#2640 [15:57] <xales|nexus_> Forget it ever existed.
#2641 [15:57] <kian> well, no
#2642 [15:57] <kian> it worked for me every time but now it wont
#2643 [15:58] <xales|nexus_> You're using the wrong link or you are doing something wrong.
#2644 [15:58] <Grim> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Snapshot ......
#2645 [15:58] <Grim> and erm
#2646 [15:59] <kian> srry but im 12 and dutch
#2647 [15:59] <Smanly> same
#2648 [15:59] <Smanly> same
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#2650 [15:59] <kian> are u dutch
#2651 [15:59] <Smanly> Lol only kidding/.
#2652 [15:59] <Grim> http://www.mojang.com/
#2653 [15:59] <xales|nexus_> kian: Well, if you're 12, perhaps you shouldn't be doing these things, or should ask someone for help?
#2654 [15:59] <kian> i was asking you
#2655 [15:59] <Grim> and that is all the "help" you will get here
#2656 [16:00] <kian> but you can only say im stupid
#2657 [16:00] <xales|nexus_> I can't do it for you.
#2658 [16:00] <kian> bye
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#2661 [16:00] <Smanly> Teamviewer /0\
#2662 [16:00] <xales|nexus_> Fucking kids
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#2665 [16:00] <Smanly> XD
#2666 [16:00] <xales|nexus_> Smanly: Maybe if I was getting paid
#2667 [16:00] <xales|nexus_> I'm nit
#2668 [16:00] <xales|nexus_> not*
#2669 [16:01] <Smanly> Sure.
#2670 [16:01] <xales|nexus_> So no TeamViewer
#2671 [16:01] <Grim> Here os my paypal link...
#2672 [16:01] <Grim> kidding
#2673 [16:01] <Smanly> hah
#2674 [16:02] * xales|nexus_ bbl
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#2676 [16:08] <Grim> Why Glee... Why Glee.. adverts on top of MC tutorials on you tube.
#2677 [16:09] <Smanly> Thats based on your search history :D
#2678 [16:10] <Grim> But I am strictly Startrek Minecraft Porn..
#2679 [16:10] <Grim> And no not Glee porn
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#2681 [16:10] <Eddie> Make it so.
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#2685 [16:11] <slaminnsalmon> hello
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#2687 [16:12] <Compodulator> hey folks, how do i change the ID of a block?
#2688 [16:12] <Compodulator> i have thaumcraft colliding with god knows what... and i'd like to change that
#2689 [16:12] <slaminnsalmon> when i got to buy the game the page for the additonanl info is not showing up.
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#2693 [16:15] <slaminnsalmon> when i go to buy the game minecraft the page for the other info will not show up i need some help
#2694 [16:15] <slaminnsalmon> when i go to buy the game minecraft the page for the other info will not show up i need some help
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#2703 [16:33] <Compodulator> can i ask to have a mod suggested to me here? D:
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#2707 [16:36] <kake> i downloaded mcpatcher and now itwont letme play my game
#2708 [16:37] <kake> the screen is just black
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#2711 [16:38] <Grim> try removing you %appdata%/roaming/.minecraft.
#2712 [16:38] <Grim> and running again.
#2713 [16:39] <WaiXan> Hello I've applied HD-texture mod and now I can't get the game to work with the launcher. http://pastie.org/private/mitdede1l9z0sipjs03lq
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#2717 [16:42] <kake> help
#2718 [16:42] <kake> idownloaded mcpatcher and now cant play my game
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#2721 [16:44] <Compodulator> http://mibpaste.com/kup9aA
#2722 [16:44] <Compodulator> this is the problem i'm having...
#2723 [16:44] <Compodulator> ...auto assign is disabled...
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#2725 [16:45] <kake_> help
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#2727 [16:45] <kake_> i downloaded mcpatcher and now cant play my game
#2728 [16:46] <kake_> ive tryed everything to restore it
#2729 [16:46] <kake_> the game screen is just black
#2730 [16:48] <WaiXan> kake_: delete everything in %appdata%/roaming/.minecraft/bin and force update
#2731 [16:49] <kake_> ty ill be back if it dont work lol
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#2737 [16:53] <kake> its not working
#2738 [16:54] <kake> sucks
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#2740 [16:54] <Smanly> o/
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#2742 [16:55] <WaiXan> Hello I've applied mcpatcher HD-texture mod and now I can't get the game to work with the launcher. http://pastie.org/private/mitdede1l9z0sipjs03lq
#2743 [16:56] <Guest22277> why do i keep getting a black screen when i load the game from the launcher?
#2744 [16:56] <Grim> WaiXan what OS are you using?
#2745 [16:57] <Grim> Guest222277 same question?
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#2747 [16:57] <Guest22277> vista
#2748 [16:57] <WaiXan> Grim: Arch linux
#2749 [16:57] <Grim> Kake have you deleted al in apps roaming?
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#2751 [16:58] <_zach10_> hello. I am trying to install minecraft on a mac. But every time I do that, it doanloads mine craft.zip (149kb) and then crashes, when I tr to install, saying minecraft is damaged and should be moved to trash
#2752 [16:58] <Grim> WaiXan: there is an issue lwjgl.jar, and I am not a guru with linux. however I might try ... one moment.
#2753 [16:58] <WaiXan> I can jump in to the game without signing in, but then it's more or less treated like pirated.
#2754 [16:59] <_zach10_> can someone help me?I bought the app today for 29$ but it doesnt show up in "my purchases" either
#2755 [16:59] <_zach10_> dont know if the two are related
#2756 [17:00] <WaiXan> _zach10_: Contact mojang on the website, that's what I did when that happend to me
#2757 [17:00] <Grim> WaiXan: read here ... hope this helps
#2758 [17:00] <Grim> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#2759 [17:00] <WaiXan> Grim: Thanks
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#2761 [17:01] <Grim> if not pop back I have done some research on this issue.
#2762 [17:01] <Grim> it apears to be with the AWT dependencies.
#2763 [17:01] <Grim> There was a similar issue under Windows OS I think back in 2006 ish
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#2766 [17:02] <idkyoutellme> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#2767 [17:03] <_zach10_> hello guys - not sure how to contact mojang on their website can someone tell me HOW to contact them
#2768 [17:03] <_zach10_> their website has no contact info
#2769 [17:03] <Grim> _zach10_:
#2770 [17:03] <WaiXan> Grim: Nah, still broken
#2771 [17:03] <Grim> http://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/emails/new
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#2773 [17:03] <Grim> Cive me a moment to properly digest your error report
#2774 [17:03] <WaiXan> No problem
#2775 [17:04] <idkyoutellme> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
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#2779 [17:07] <Grim> Whilst I research this WaiXan .. have you tried re-installing Java?
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#2781 [17:08] <WaiXan> Grim: I just made a sucess "java -cp .local/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame"
#2782 [17:08] <WaiXan> It worked
#2783 [17:08] <Grim> :)
#2784 [17:08] <WaiXan> Strange shit
#2785 [17:08] <Grim> So you did not need me :)
#2786 [17:09] <WaiXan> Two heads is better than one :D
#2787 [17:09] <Grim> would you be as kind as to publish your method to pastbin or equiv so that I might offer it as solution to others?
#2788 [17:09] <idkyoutellme> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#2789 [17:09] <WaiXan> Grim: Do it :)
#2790 [17:10] <WaiXan> Oh, I can do it
#2791 [17:11] <WaiXan> Grim: http://pastie.org/4593438
#2792 [17:11] <Grim> :)
#2793 [17:11] <Grim> would this also work?
#2794 [17:12] <Grim> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIbHcpCB-VU
#2795 [17:12] <WaiXan> No clue
#2796 [17:12] <Grim> ditto
#2797 [17:12] <Grim> I am thinking it is a Java issue for sure.
#2798 [17:12] <Grim> Not a linux issue.
#2799 [17:13] <Grim> but good to have fixes for both.
#2800 [17:13] <WaiXan> Yes
#2801 [17:13] <Grim> Think I need to fire up my Virtual box.
#2802 [17:18] <idkyoutellme> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#2803 [17:18] <Kanegasi> i know you can see a solid "signal bar" on the tab list, but is there a numerical latency value? i dont see one on the f3 stats
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#2807 [17:22] <_zach10_> hey there guys - is contacting minecraft help the best way to resolve my issue of "Minecraft is damaged - it must be deleted" - I am using a mac and it constantly gives me this error
#2808 [17:22] <_zach10_> Thanks for any help you might be able to provide
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#2810 [17:22] <Sophia> If it actually plays if you ignore the message, try turning the message off entirely if you can
#2811 [17:23] <Sophia> Im no mac user but usually you can just turn a warning off?
#2812 [17:23] <MrBoots> I have a question, Every time I try to update my minecraft/tekkit/spout/anything to 1.3.2., it will stop halfway through. No error message, just stop and stay there without moving. Any idea why?
#2813 [17:24] <Kanegasi> _zach10_: try force updating it. also, this channel and the forums are the best help you can get, short of being friends with a computer genius
#2814 [17:24] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: what antivirus do you use?
#2815 [17:24] <MrBoots> AVG
#2816 [17:24] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: turn it off and try again
#2817 [17:25] <MrBoots> And force updating does nothing.
#2818 [17:25] <_zach10_> janegasi, can you please tell me how to force update it
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#2820 [17:25] <MrBoots> Let me see if AVG will let me.
#2821 [17:25] <Kanegasi> _zach10_: before you login at the launcher, click "Options" and then "force update", then login
#2822 [17:25] <MrBoots> zach10 from the login screen options>forcupdate
#2823 [17:26] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: right click the avg icon in the tray and select "temporarily disable yada yada"
#2824 [17:26] <PcJamesy> i'm having loggin failed too
#2825 [17:26] <kimchi210> When I go onto minecraft, it loads but the mincraft game doesn't come up, I get a white, blank panel. this just started happening a couple of days ago...any advice?
#2826 [17:26] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: although i personally dont have issues with avg, it has quite a few issues with several users. i suggest looking for another antivirus if you continue to have issues
#2827 [17:27] <PcJamesy> changed my password then it worked
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#2829 [17:27] <race> hello?
#2830 [17:27] <Kanegasi> kimchi210: anything new you did to your computer? any updates to anything?
#2831 [17:27] <MrBoots> Interesting, I don't have a 'Temporarily Disable"
#2832 [17:27] <kimchi210> no
#2833 [17:28] <race> any onethat can help me?
#2834 [17:28] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: then open the avg interface, "file", "exit"
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#2836 [17:28] <Kanegasi> windows will give you a notification that avg is disabled
#2837 [17:28] <Kanegasi> race: state your problem and we'll see if we can assist
#2838 [17:29] <Kanegasi> kimchi210: what version of java are you running
#2839 [17:29] <race> when i play on a multiplayer server, all the signs and mobs, including other players, and me are black and kinda trasparent
#2840 [17:29] <Kanegasi> race: when was the last time you updated your graphic drivers?
#2841 [17:30] <race> i just bought a brand-new computer
#2842 [17:30] <MrBoots> Doesn't mean you don't need to update them.
#2843 [17:30] <race> oh ok
#2844 [17:30] <Kanegasi> race: update your drivers. all of them. for every device you have. new computers are almost never shipped with up-to-date drivers
#2845 [17:30] <kimchi210> Hi Kanegasi - I am running v 1.7
#2846 [17:31] <Kanegasi> ??> kimchi210 java/1.6
#2847 [17:31] <VoxelHead> kimchi210: (java/1.6) You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#2848 [17:31] <race> thank u
#2849 [17:31] <Kanegasi> kimchi210: uninstall 7 and install 6
#2850 [17:31] <kimchi210> so minecraft won't run on v7?
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#2852 [17:32] <MrBoots> Kanegasi: It seems that using File>Exit on my AVG client simply hides the user interface. I've been trying to get rid of this new update for avg fir a long timk.
#2853 [17:32] <Kanegasi> kimchi210: java 7 is not a stable release. there are known issues with minecraft. go with 6u34 for the time being
#2854 [17:32] <MrBoots> time*
#2855 [17:32] <kimchi210> I have beenplaying it on v7 for about a month...do you know why it would be a problem all of a sudden?
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#2857 [17:32] <kimchi210> ok...thx
#2858 [17:32] <saiikaato> uhhh
#2859 [17:32] <saiikaato> is anyone else getting
#2860 [17:32] <saiikaato> invalid client reply
#2861 [17:33] <saiikaato> o-o?
#2862 [17:34] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: interesting. i thought that turned it off. i tried that and got the same thing. open the ui back up and disable linkscanner. right click on linkscanner, and uncheck the two boxes "enable search-shield" and "enable surf-shield"
#2863 [17:34] <Kanegasi> *right click linkscanner and select open
#2864 [17:34] <Kanegasi> saiikaato: in what context? login?
#2865 [17:34] <saiikaato> logging into a server
#2866 [17:35] <Kanegasi> saiikaato: did you try other servers?
#2867 [17:35] <saiikaato> yep
#2868 [17:35] <saiikaato> all of them said Invalid Client Reply
#2869 [17:35] <saiikaato> I just tried reinstalling MC
#2870 [17:35] <saiikaato> and still
#2871 [17:35] <Kanegasi> saiikaato: are you using a clean vanilla client with a valid account?
#2872 [17:35] <saiikaato> Yes, clean, premium account.
#2873 [17:36] <MrBoots> Kanegasi: Done and Done. Now try updating minecraft?
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#2876 [17:37] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> v.v
#2877 [17:37] <MrBoots> Kanegasi: Tried updating. No dice.
#2878 [17:38] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: hmm. the best i can tell you is just keep attempting until it goes through. use force each time
#2879 [17:39] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> http://puu.sh/Z7fQ
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#2881 [17:39] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: you can also go through the task manager and kill everything with "avg" in the name
#2882 [17:39] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: then start avg again after
#2883 [17:39] <MrBoots> Kanegasi: I've tried that before. It denies access.
#2884 [17:39] <MrBoots> Kanegasi: Even as an Administrator
#2885 [17:40] <MrBoots> Kanegasi: I am so buying a new Antivirus.
#2886 [17:40] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> So
#2887 [17:40] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> nobody knows anything about Invalid Client Reply?
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#2889 [17:41] <_zach10_> hello guys, I am sounding real retarded
#2890 [17:41] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> ?
#2891 [17:41] <_zach10_> but i am actually quite computer literate
#2892 [17:41] <Kanegasi> MrBoots: no purchase necessary. avast is a great free AV
#2893 [17:42] <_zach10_> i had asked a question about my "Minecraft application is damaged, it needs to me moved to trash
#2894 [17:42] <MrBoots> Kanegasi: Ah, there we go, I just deleted my whole .minecraft folder fir the the third time. First after messing with avg.
#2895 [17:42] <_zach10_> I was told - try to force update it
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#2897 [17:42] <_zach10_> I am unable to do that now ...
#2898 [17:42] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> How so? o-o
#2899 [17:42] <MrBoots> Kanegasi: Yeah, I liked Kapersky the most. 20 dollars at best buy and was so easy and effective.
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#2901 [17:43] <_zach10_> can someone tell me how to force update it
#2902 [17:43] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> before you login
#2903 [17:43] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> press options button
#2904 [17:43] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> and click force update
#2905 [17:43] <_zach10_> before I log into .. my mac?
#2906 [17:43] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> no
#2907 [17:43] <Kanegasi> no, minecraft
#2908 [17:43] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> when you open the minecraft.exe
#2909 [17:43] <Kanegasi> ??> _zach10_ forceupdate
#2910 [17:43] <VoxelHead> _zach10_: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#2911 [17:43] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> before you login to play
#2912 [17:43] <VoxelHead> _zach10_: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#2913 [17:44] <_zach10_> oh let me try thanks for your help and patience guys
#2914 [17:44] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> I'm still trying to find out what Invalid Client Reply meand
#2915 [17:44] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> means*
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#2917 [17:47] <_zach10_> Thanks VoxelHead - unfortunately I am unable to even click on the minecraft application
#2918 [17:47] <_zach10_> it immediately gives me that error - Application Minecraft is damaged
#2919 [17:47] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> is it like... a windows popup
#2920 [17:47] <Kanegasi> mac
#2921 [17:47] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> or is it minecraft saying that
#2922 [17:47] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> o
#2923 [17:47] <_zach10_> its a mac .. and the safari browser saves it as a minecraft application (automatically unzips)
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#2925 [17:47] <_zach10_> but thats the end of it
#2926 [17:48] <Kanegasi> _zach10_: go into your minecraft folder and copy out the saves folder, then delete everything minecraft
#2927 [17:48] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> uhhh
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#2929 [17:48] <Kanegasi> _zach10_: redownload and install
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#2931 [17:48] <_zach10_> kanegasi, you mean - find the minecraft folder and delete everything in it
#2932 [17:48] <_zach10_> ?
#2933 [17:48] <rez> Does anyone know if it's possible to sideload Minecraft onto Android tablets that don't have the google play store? I'm trying to get it working on my Nabi tablet for the kids.
#2934 [17:49] <jboo33> When I try to join an online server I have been playing on for a few days, Minecraft keeps crashing and comes up with a code
#2935 [17:49] <Kanegasi> _zach10_: yes, but make sure you save your Saves folder if you have singleplayer worlds you want to keep
#2936 [17:49] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> what is the code?
#2937 [17:49] <_zach10_> i dont even care about the saved folder - but ok I will do that thanks for the advice
#2938 [17:49] <Kanegasi> DO NOT PASTE HERE
#2939 [17:49] <Kanegasi> pastebin.com
#2940 [17:49] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> well
#2941 [17:50] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> yeah pastebin it
#2942 [17:50] <jboo33> ok make it public?
#2943 [17:50] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> So just making sure again, nobody knows what 'Invalic
#2944 [17:50] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> 'Invalid Client Reply'* is?
#2945 [17:50] <jboo33> What do u want the title to be
#2946 [17:51] <Wug> you misspelled NuadaAirgetlam
#2947 [17:52] <Wug> NuadhaAirgetlamh: ive never seen anything say "invalid client reply"
#2948 [17:52] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> Nuadha is another spelling of Nuada
#2949 [17:52] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> I have a puu.sh of it
#2950 [17:52] <jboo33> alright its in pastebn
#2951 [17:52] <jboo33> pastebin
#2952 [17:52] <Wug> found it
#2953 [17:52] <Wug> I'd imagine you're using a modded client on an unmodded server
#2954 [17:52] <Wug> force update.
#2955 [17:52] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> Nope
#2956 [17:52] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> I just reinstalled
#2957 [17:52] <Wug> force update anyway.
#2958 [17:52] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> Just tried that too...
#2959 [17:52] <Wug> maybe its the other way around.
#2960 [17:53] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> well
#2961 [17:53] <Wug> unmodded client on modded server
#2962 [17:53] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> it's every server I had
#2963 [17:53] <Wug> are any of them modded servers?
#2964 [17:53] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> just got a java.net socket exception
#2965 [17:53] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> umm most of them have worked before
#2966 [17:53] <Wug> did you have mods before?
#2967 [17:53] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> no
#2968 [17:54] <_zach10_> to any unix experts - i tried find . - name mine || more
#2969 [17:54] <_zach10_> is that how I would locate ... from what I remember from years back if I go to root (cd) and then type
#2970 [17:54] <_zach10_> thats what I would se
#2971 [17:54] <_zach10_> am i right
#2972 [17:55] <rez> zach: If it has a locatedb, you could just run locate mine
#2973 [17:55] <_zach10_> im trying to find the minecraft directory
#2974 [17:55] <Wug> _zach10_: I'm using linux, but have no idea why safari is deleting it for no reason
#2975 [17:55] <Wug> try a different browser
#2976 [17:55] <rez> If you want to search for a specific file called mine, that would wor, but use one pipe (|) not two
#2977 [17:55] <rez> If you want to search for a specific file called mine, that would wor, but use one pipe (|) not two
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#2979 [17:57] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> http://puu.sh/Z7AD
#2980 [17:57] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> something strange is happening o_o
#2981 [17:58] <_zach10_> thanks Rez .. I am trying to find the MINECRAFTER directory and just delete the thing
#2982 [17:59] <_zach10_> ok i used sudo to create the locate database thanks I will trythat now
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#2985 [18:02] <squiggy> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#2986 [18:03] <squiggy> got to love b ukit after they update everything stops working
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#2988 [18:05] <Smanly> Most recent build?
#2989 [18:06] <NuadhaAirgetlamh> ._.
#2990 [18:06] <squiggy> yes i like creating plugins and i have the latest build for developers and thats the first one the update
#2991 [18:08] <_zach10_> ok guys
#2992 [18:08] <Wug> you should ask about this in #bukkit
#2993 [18:08] <_zach10_> i tried locating the file (locate.database has been created by Sudo)
#2994 [18:08] <_zach10_> but there is no mine craft file or firectory
#2995 [18:08] <_zach10_> that means there are no old files hopefully
#2996 [18:08] <_zach10_> ?
#2997 [18:10] <gv> _zach10_: mac?
#2998 [18:10] <Wug> _zach10_: I don't know. I am not a mac person.
#2999 [18:10] <_zach10_> yes mac
#3000 [18:10] <_zach10_> hold on
#3001 [18:10] <_zach10_> i went intoApplications
#3002 [18:10] <_zach10_> and I found a directory called MineCraft.app
#3003 [18:10] <gv> ??> _zach10_ mac/gatekeeper
#3004 [18:10] <VoxelHead> _zach10_: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
#3005 [18:10] <_zach10_> now trying ot delete it
#3006 [18:10] <Kanegasi> ??> _zach10_ mac/.minecraft
#3007 [18:10] <VoxelHead> _zach10_: (mac/.minecraft) To get at Minecraft's locally stored files on a Mac, in the Finder, from the Go menu, select Home. Then open Library, Application Support. The folder you want is "minecraft".
#3008 [18:11] * gv shakes head.
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#3010 [18:11] <_zach10_> thanks all I am trying what voxelhead said
#3011 [18:11] <gv> It's gatekeeper preventing Macs running mountain lion from running minecraft
#3012 [18:12] <gv> Typically erroring as a damaged archive
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#3015 [18:14] <race> hey, i updated my drivers, and everybody is still black
#3016 [18:14] <Spambot_357> hello
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#3018 [18:14] <Spambot_357> I <3 Spam
#3019 [18:14] <race> what?
#3020 [18:14] <Spambot_357> I <3 Spam
#3021 [18:14] <Spambot_357> I <3 Spam
#3022 [18:14] <Spambot_357> I <3 Spam
#3023 [18:14] <Spambot_357> I <3 Spam
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#3026 [18:15] <race> kangasi?
#3027 [18:15] <Spambot_357> does notch own a server
#3028 [18:15] <gv> No
#3029 [18:15] <Spambot_357> i bet he does
#3030 [18:15] <gv> Please don't spam again
#3031 [18:15] <race> hellllllloooooooooooo
#3032 [18:15] <Spambot_357> just doesnt tell anybody the ip
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#3036 [18:15] <_zach10_> gv, voxelhead and kanegasi thanks so much
#3037 [18:16] <race> can somebody plzzzz help me
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#3039 [18:16] * gv tips hat
#3039 [18:16] <Spambot_357> i love spam
#3040 [18:16] <Spambot_357> i love spam
#3041 [18:16] <Spambot_357> i love spam
#3042 [18:16] <Spambot_357> i love spam
#3043 [18:16] <race> kanegasi?
#3044 [18:16] <_zach10_> I think that might have worked I will try doing this and get back to you but thanks all three of you thanks much
#3045 [18:16] <Spambot_357> i love spam!
#3046 [18:16] <Spambot_357> i love spam!!
#3047 [18:16] <Spambot_357> i love spam!!!
#3048 [18:16] <race> plz help
#3049 [18:16] * gv kicked Spambot_357 from #minecrafthelp (Reason: pambot_357 :Spambot_357)
#3050 [18:16] <Kanegasi> race: yes?
#3051 [18:16] <Kanegasi> _zach10_: you're welcome
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#3054 [18:17] * rez is elsewhere - Automagically set away at Sun Aug 26 15:17:00 2012 -
#3054 [18:17] <Spambot_358> I Love Spam
#3055 [18:17] <Spambot_358> I Love Spam!
#3056 [18:17] <race> i updated my drivers and everyones still black
#3057 [18:17] <Spambot_358> I Love Spam!!
#3058 [18:17] <Spambot_358> I Love Spam!!!
#3059 [18:17] <Spambot_358> I Love Spam!!!!
#3060 [18:17] <Spambot_358> I Love Spam!!!!!
#3061 [18:17] <kimchi210> i can log into minecraft, but it takes me to the page and never completely loads I changed to java 6 but still no good.
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#3064 [18:17] <kimchi210> any suggestions?
#3065 [18:17] <gv> Thanks Scott
#3066 [18:17] <gretchen> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#3067 [18:17] <race> hello?
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#3069 [18:18] * Scott kicked rez from #minecrafthelp (Reason: ez :Please disable auto away announce script. :()
#3070 [18:18] <Kanegasi> race: im not quite sure what the issue is
#3071 [18:18] <race> ok here let me reexplain it
#3072 [18:18] <Kanegasi> race: i know your issue
#3073 [18:19] <race> oh
#3074 [18:19] <Kanegasi> race: i meant not sure what the problem is then
#3075 [18:19] <race> oh
#3076 [18:19] <gv> What was the issue?
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#3079 [18:20] <kimchi210> Kanegasi, any other suggestions i tried java 6 but still no good
#3080 [18:20] <race> i went into a server, and my arm was black, so i looked for another player and they were black to
#3081 [18:20] <_zach10_> to kanegashi, voxel and gs - Thanks so much guys - the security problem fixed it - I wanted to express my sincere thanks. my 9 year son is going to be excited
#3082 [18:21] <_zach10_> thanks so much again .. what a great help
#3083 [18:21] <race> and signs are black 2
#3084 [18:21] <gv> Hmm. Any mods race?
#3085 [18:21] <kimchi210> race, under a tree with that problem?
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#3088 [18:21] <race> nope, just bought the game
#3089 [18:22] <pyromaniac> could somebody help me with noteblocks ?
#3090 [18:22] <kimchi210> help anyone?
#3091 [18:22] <gv> reinstalled java yet race?
#3092 [18:22] <race> yep 3 times
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#3094 [18:23] <gv> Updated your video drivers?
#3095 [18:23] <race> yep
#3096 [18:23] <gv> Did a force update or went into. Minecraft
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#3099 [18:24] <guacamole> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#3100 [18:24] <race> what?
#3101 [18:24] <gv> Er, and deleted files?
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#3103 [18:24] <race> ?
#3104 [18:24] <gv> Did you have minecraft redownload its files?
#3105 [18:25] <race> no, how do you do that?
#3106 [18:25] <gv> What operating system are you running?
#3107 [18:25] <race> windows 7
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#3109 [18:26] <gv> Run minecraft. Before logging in, hit the options button. Click on the link there to open up the folder to .minecraft
#3110 [18:27] <race> thank u, ill come back if it doesnt work
#3111 [18:27] <gv> Select everything but the saves folder and delete it
#3112 [18:27] <race> thx
#3113 [18:32] <pyromaniac> so could any body help me with noteblocks ?
#3114 [18:32] <DiskDaemon> in what way?
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#3116 [18:33] <stickmenz> anyone have solution to the bukkit 1.3 CPU (tps leak) lag (known issue)? :)
#3117 [18:34] <pyromaniac> im trying to find a file or notes to use in the noteblocks studio but i dont know what to look for or anthing liket timing and stuff
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#3119 [18:36] <Emily> I just bought Minecraft right this moment, and when I tried dowloading it, it said I had bad video card drivers. Do you know what this means? Thanks
#3120 [18:36] <pyromaniac> im trying to loop the itntro to coldplayclocks
#3121 [18:36] <pyromaniac> it might mean your videocard isnt good or new enough
#3122 [18:36] <Emily> What is a video card?
#3123 [18:37] <pyromaniac> its the thing that proseses video in your coumputer if i remember right
#3124 [18:37] <Emily> Oh, okay.
#3125 [18:37] <pyromaniac> i cant play miecraf on my computer for that reason
#3126 [18:37] <Emily> Well, I'm on a laptop, so maybe if I went on my computer that would work.
#3127 [18:38] <pyromaniac> minecraft
#3128 [18:38] <Emily> It has more ram.
#3129 [18:38] <pyromaniac> try it
#3130 [18:38] <Emily> It might help.
#3131 [18:38] <Emily> Okay, one second.
#3132 [18:40] <Emily> I'm installing Java on my computer.
#3133 [18:40] <pyromaniac> ok
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#3136 [18:40] <pyromaniac> lol my video card isnt good enough for mincraft but agian its a laptop so...
#3137 [18:41] <Emily> Yeah, I'm on my laptop.
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#3139 [18:42] <pyromaniac> sup
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#3142 [18:42] <Emily> It didn't work. This is really frustrating that I can't use it, after paying.
#3143 [18:43] <Emily> I'm going to try to go to Tech Support
#3144 [18:43] <Emily> Thank you
#3145 [18:43] <pyromaniac> you could use this to see what the problem is
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#3147 [18:43] <pyromaniac> a sec
#3148 [18:43] <Emily> I'll come back if I need to
#3149 [18:43] <Emily> Thanks
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#3155 [18:44] <mib_p25hb1> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
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#3158 [18:45] <pyromaniac> ok you still here ?
#3159 [18:45] <race> gv?
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#3162 [18:45] <race> gv????
#3163 [18:45] <Anson> hallo... thanks for the answers last night... installed a new internetbrowser to finally download minecraft.exe instead of failing on minecraft_exe (that's what IE9 tried to download)
#3164 [18:46] <race> helloooo ggggvvvvvv??????
#3165 [18:47] <pyromaniac> i dont think he is here right no
#3166 [18:47] <race> oh ok
#3167 [18:47] <race> ummm can u help me?
#3168 [18:47] <pyromaniac> idk what you need ?
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#3170 [18:48] <pyromaniac> mostly i ask but sometimes and can help lol
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#3172 [18:48] <race> when i go into a server everybody is black, including me, and soare the signs
#3173 [18:49] <DiskDaemon> How widespread is that problem? Is it just one server?
#3174 [18:49] <Anson> now i ran MC and it always fails after 1-3 minutes, either with windows error "java platform se stopped working" or with an "out of memory" (reported by MC sending me back to start screen)
#3175 [18:49] <race> no, all servers
#3176 [18:50] <race> that i tried anyway
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#3178 [18:50] <race> i tried about 20
#3179 [18:50] <DiskDaemon> how odd - I've seen someone else report that, but I'm not sure of a solution
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#3181 [18:50] <michael> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
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#3183 [18:50] <pyromaniac> @anson i think you need more memory
#3184 [18:50] <race> what do u mean
#3185 [18:51] <Anson> my comp has 2 GB
#3186 [18:51] <pyromaniac> ram ?
#3187 [18:51] <race> mine has 1 gb of ram
#3188 [18:51] <Anson> of course ram... harddisks are several TB :-)
#3189 [18:52] <race> ello??
#3190 [18:52] <pyromaniac> yes ?
#3191 [18:52] <race> so how can i fix it?
#3192 [18:53] <pyromaniac> @anson sry i dont know what the problem is sry you willhave to ask some body that knows more than me sry
#3193 [18:53] <pyromaniac> @race you might try a reinstall if all else fails
#3194 [18:54] <race> i did that already
#3195 [18:54] <pyromaniac> very odd
#3196 [18:55] <pyromaniac> whats your verson of window are you useing ?
#3197 [18:55] <race> 7
#3198 [18:55] <Smanly> Anson: You could try running MC with less ram. 2gb total RAM is not much. You cant really be doing anything else.
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#3200 [18:56] <alex_> Hello there
#3201 [18:56] <pyromaniac> hi
#3202 [18:56] <Smanly> \o
#3203 [18:56] <race> helllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo
#3204 [18:56] <Smanly> -_-
#3205 [18:56] <alex_> I'm having some trouble with the minecraft query server, was wondering if you guys could help
#3206 [18:56] <race> plz help me, ive beensaving up for weeks 2 buy the game
#3207 [18:56] <pyromaniac> did you try reseting your modem ?
#3208 [18:57] <race> me?
#3209 [18:57] <Smanly> alex_: What is the problem?
#3210 [18:57] <alex_> Yeah, i've checked that all the port forwarding is done correctly
#3211 [18:57] <Anson> i had read many pages (wiki, help, support, etc) and seen several hints on creating bat files to start java and MC with different mem alloc. but i had hoped for someone to tell me exactly what and where to do
#3212 [18:57] <race> me?
#3213 [18:57] <alex_> I even tried connecting with the python interpreter, it seems like the query server is refusing the connection
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#3215 [18:57] <pyromaniac> race did you reset you connection ?
#3216 [18:57] <Smanly> Anson: Two ways, You can use a .bat or use a launcher (such as MagicLauncher)
#3217 [18:58] <race> no, but its not possible where i am
#3218 [18:58] <pyromaniac> hmmm
#3219 [18:58] <Smanly> alex_: What is it that you are trying to do , exactly?
#3220 [18:58] <alex_> the minecraft query server, which is enabled in the config with enable-query=true
#3221 [18:59] <pyromaniac> how much ram do you have @race ?
#3222 [18:59] <alex_> currently running on port 25564 for me
#3223 [18:59] <alex_> doesn't respond
#3224 [18:59] <alex_> I can't connect to it
#3225 [18:59] <Smanly> alex_: Just use the same port as the servers is on.
#3226 [18:59] <alex_> tried that too, it didn't work
#3227 [18:59] <race> 1 gb
#3228 [18:59] <Smanly> alex_: What are you using to test it?
#3229 [18:59] <Anson> i would also be interested in several mods. seen "technic pack" which many people seem to use. it has its own launcher.... two questions about it
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#3231 [19:00] <alex_> The python interpreter, creating a socket and connecting to localhost on port 25564
#3232 [19:00] <alex_> the connection is refused
#3233 [19:00] <Smanly> Anson: Thats a whole other story.
#3234 [19:00] <xales> alex_: You restarted the server after enabling query in the config...right?
#3235 [19:00] <alex_> Yup
#3236 [19:00] <Anson> can someone recommend it? may i use it and enter my name and pw in that launcher?
#3237 [19:00] <Smanly> alex_: Hmm, but what are you planning on using the query for?
#3238 [19:00] <pyromaniac> @ race try this link
#3239 [19:01] <xales> Anson: We can't officially support third-party software/launchers. Whatever you do is up to you.
#3240 [19:01] <alex_> Got a webserver setup, just wanted to stick the query info on that
#3241 [19:01] <pyromaniac> http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/analysis.aspx?name=Minecraft&id=11356
#3242 [19:02] <pyromaniac> @race click can u run it
#3243 [19:02] <Smanly> Anson: MagicLauncher is made to easily load mods but is also just an user friendly way of changing the amount of RAM that will be allocated to MC.
#3244 [19:04] <alex_> So... any clues?
#3245 [19:04] <Smanly> What is the recommended specs for MC.
#3246 [19:04] <Smanly> alex_: No not really.
#3247 [19:04] <alex_> Hmmp, oh well
#3248 [19:04] <alex_> Thanks anyways
#3249 [19:04] <alex_> ciao
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#3251 [19:04] <Smanly> alex_: It may just be the tool you are useing
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#3253 [19:04] <pyromaniac> @race is there anything that needs improvment ?
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#3255 [19:06] <WakingSleeper> Got a wierd question, is there a magic number for memory for java? can you have too much for a server - currently server set to 12gb (tekkit server)?
#3256 [19:06] <pyromaniac> umm....
#3257 [19:07] <Smanly> WakingSleeper: What do you mean? What is the best ammount for a server?
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#3259 [19:07] <schnozzle> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#3260 [19:07] <WakingSleeper> yeah what is optimal
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#3262 [19:07] <dillyj> my minecraft has no sound, what do i do?
#3263 [19:07] <Smanly> WakingSleeper: I know that tekkit is more CPU intensive the vanilla.
#3264 [19:07] <Smanly> WakingSleeper: There is no optimal. It depends on what you are doing.
#3265 [19:08] <WakingSleeper> i got 2 dual core i3 server 16gb ram server
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#3267 [19:08] <dillyj> my minecraft has no sound, what do i do?
#3268 [19:09] <WakingSleeper> i was just wondering if java had issues with too much ram
#3269 [19:09] <Smanly> WakingSleeper: nope.
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#3271 [19:10] <WakingSleeper> ok probably a plugin issue then -- THANKS
#3272 [19:10] <schnozzle> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
#3273 [19:10] <Smanly> Woah, dillyj waited a WHOLE 2 mins!
#3274 [19:10] <Smanly> schnozzle: Water you doing?
#3275 [19:11] <schnozzle> getting my server back up but ever scince the bukkit servers updated i cant get it up
#3276 [19:11] <Smanly> Um... is it not even starting?
#3277 [19:11] <schnozzle> it started but its notr online
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#3279 [19:12] <Smanly> Then downgrade?
#3280 [19:12] <schnozzle> i have a small server farm and its usily on but i had to update and now its not
#3281 [19:12] <Smanly> schnozzle: Which build?
#3282 [19:12] <schnozzle> why no one will be able to join then
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#3284 [19:12] <schnozzle> 1.3.2 developer build
#3285 [19:12] <Smanly> Which one though?
#3286 [19:13] <Smanly> schnozzle: Also, you may want to ask #bukkit
#3287 [19:13] <schnozzle> kinda figured that but usily we have smart ones in here
#3288 [19:14] <schnozzle> well by
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#3295 [19:26] <_zach10_> hello guys. This is Zach10 again. I installed on one pc, then went to another pc and bought another copy of thesoftware for my saughter
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#3297 [19:27] <_zach10_> On the new PC it crashes with a strange java error - Could not create pixel format
#3298 [19:27] <_zach10_> I have the complete crash report - any idea what I should do
#3299 [19:27] <lutzee> _zach10_: the other computer needs it's graphics drivers updating
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#3301 [19:27] <_zach10_> Thanks Lutzees - any idea how
#3302 [19:28] <_zach10_> oh its a mac
#3303 [19:28] <_zach10_> both macs
#3304 [19:28] <lutzee> _zach10_: do you know the graphics chipset it has?
#3305 [19:28] <_zach10_> its a white mac 13 inch notebook
#3306 [19:28] <crysiszombie> ok quick question. when i go to buy an account it gets to a page that says that my accounts is closed. what do?
#3307 [19:29] <crysiszombie> im buying this for my brohter and its such a pain in the ass
#3308 [19:29] <crysiszombie> ive tried on 2 different accounts and tried both buying the full version and the friend code and they both end with the same result
#3309 [19:30] <lutzee> _zach10_: do this https://wiki.csuchico.edu/confluence/display/help/Determining+System+Specs+-+Mac+OSX
#3310 [19:31] <lutzee> when you get the screen for about this mac up press more info
#3311 [19:31] <_zach10_> Tanks LutZee will give that a whirl right away
#3312 [19:31] <lutzee> _zach10_: tell me what you see
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#3314 [19:32] <Talk> hello
#3315 [19:32] <crysiszombie> hello
#3316 [19:32] <_zach10_> its OSX v 10.9
#3317 [19:32] <Talk> i have a question, on lunix if anyone can help
#3318 [19:32] <_zach10_> runing 2.4GHZ intel core 2 duo
#3319 [19:33] <lutzee> _zach10_: press more info
#3320 [19:33] <_zach10_> Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 320M 256 MB
#3321 [19:33] <lutzee> h
#3322 [19:33] <lutzee> that's what i wanted
#3323 [19:33] <_zach10_> thanks lutzee
#3324 [19:33] <lutzee> ??> _zach10_ gpu/nvidia
#3325 [19:33] <VoxelHead> _zach10_: (gpu/nvidia) You can get drivers for NVIDIA video cards here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
#3326 [19:33] <lutzee> find your graphics drivers there
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#3328 [19:34] <_zach10_> wow this is strange
#3329 [19:34] <_zach10_> my other mac - identical - worked fine
#3330 [19:34] <Talk> it seems, ive downloaded all the stuff, but it doesnt run. there's no place in the files that launches it, and the command doesnt do anything either
#3331 [19:35] <_zach10_> but on this one when I go to nvidia they dont have a OSX mountain lion driver
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#3333 [19:35] <Talk> can anyone help me?
#3334 [19:35] <lutzee> _zach10_: hmm, is there an auto detect feature? either that, or try a version for another version of mac
#3335 [19:36] <_zach10_> ok let me try one of teh latest versions
#3336 [19:36] <lutzee> Talk the minecraft.jar from minecraft.net/download is the launcher, run it like a program
#3337 [19:36] <Anson> just learned about F3... my java crashed while mc shows 16% (161mb) of 989 mb is used with 50% (495 mb) allocated memory.... and same again 3 mins later... i have 2 GB total ram
#3338 [19:37] <Talk> how would i do that lutzee?
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#3341 [19:37] <Talk> it doesn't seem to have a place as an app
#3342 [19:38] <crysiszombie> can someone help me about purchasing minecraft? it constanly says that my account is closed and i dont know what to do
#3343 [19:38] <_zach10_> Lutzee, keepign fingers crossed ... :-)
#3344 [19:38] <_zach10_> trying to download and install the snow leopardversion ..
#3345 [19:39] <lutzee> Talk.. just double click it.. it's basically a binary program
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#3347 [19:40] <lutzee> You might have to set it to executable
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#3352 [20:01] <Talk> lutzee: where should it go?
#3353 [20:02] <Talk> ive extracted it, there doesn't seem to be a place to click to launch
#3354 [20:02] <lutzee> Extracting it was a bad idea >.>
#3355 [20:02] <Talk> i know where the files are
#3356 [20:03] <lutzee> okay talk try this http://debianhelp.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts/
#3357 [20:03] <lutzee> It's 3rd party but it worked for me
#3358 [20:03] <lutzee> Ir'll set it up as an app
#3359 [20:03] <lutzee> It'll*
#3360 [20:04] <Talk> cool, ill come bak with the results
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#3364 [20:13] <mib_37ur63> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
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#3368 [20:23] <thunderbeat> hello
#3369 [20:24] <lutzee> hey
#3370 [20:24] <thunderbeat> i have a problem
#3371 [20:24] <thunderbeat> i hope a simple
#3372 [20:24] <lutzee> Ask it question i can't read your mind :p
#3373 [20:25] <thunderbeat> when i open the minecraft.exe to install all than it brings a message that java cant create a virtual machine what make i wrong?
#3374 [20:25] <Talk> lutzee: so far so good, i did have an eddie getting in to sudu yuseres file
#3375 [20:25] <lutzee> hmm
#3376 [20:26] <thunderbeat> i have read some forums but it doesnt help me
#3377 [20:26] <lutzee> Talk, you aren't an admin on the PC?
#3378 [20:26] <thunderbeat> in my own pc
#3379 [20:26] <lutzee> ??> thunderbeat win/dxdiaf
#3380 [20:26] <lutzee> ??> thunderbeat win/dxdiag
#3381 [20:26] <VoxelHead> thunderbeat: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3382 [20:26] <VoxelHead> thunderbeat: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3383 [20:26] <Talk> no:-(
#3384 [20:26] <lutzee> Talk: i was counting on linux users generally being admin xD
#3385 [20:27] <lutzee> It's not often you find someone who hasn't
#3386 [20:27] <Talk> this is my father's computer, and im here temp. i wanted to try it here
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#3388 [20:27] <thunderbeat> ok ok^^ it loads^^
#3389 [20:27] <lutzee> Talk: makes sense
#3390 [20:28] <Talk> but, he's a good system's admin. he's ok with me messing up this box
#3391 [20:28] <Talk> after all, it is 7 years old
#3392 [20:28] <lutzee> The PC i'm on is probably older :D
#3393 [20:29] <lutzee> Running linux mint, much nicer/smoother than windows without a doubt
#3394 [20:29] <thunderbeat> ave done i hope^^
#3395 [20:30] <Talk> and the term. is soooooooooo much easier to work with/get to
#3396 [20:31] <lutzee> thunderbeat: you paste to pastebin?
#3397 [20:31] <thunderbeat> yes
#3398 [20:31] <lutzee> If so i need the link from your browsers address bar :)
#3399 [20:31] <thunderbeat> i think so
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#3401 [20:32] <thunderbeat> dont change the options or?
#3402 [20:32] <Talk> but, to my disadvantage, no software it made for lunix anymore, only people who want to get things done work with lunix, most of them not wanting to make anything
#3403 [20:32] <lutzee> thunderbeat: er give it a name at least
#3404 [20:32] <Talk> :-P
#3405 [20:32] <thunderbeat> i have call it problem from thunderbeat..
#3406 [20:32] <thunderbeat> :)
#3407 [20:32] <lutzee> Talk: not true, should be steam for linux soon :)
#3408 [20:33] <lutzee> thunderbeat: press submit
#3409 [20:33] <thunderbeat> have
#3410 [20:33] <thunderbeat> dont see it?
#3411 [20:33] <Talk> it took me a week on this box to try to figure out steam, i can get the steam app to run, but none of the games work
#3412 [20:34] <lutzee> can you get me the link from the address bar thunderbeat
#3413 [20:34] <Talk> ;-P
#3414 [20:34] <thunderbeat> i have make a new same name
#3415 [20:34] <thunderbeat> http://pastebin.com/r4ttBWqM
#3416 [20:34] <Talk> yeah, i heard about steamlunix, sounds cool don't it
#3417 [20:35] <lutzee> thunderbeat: reinstall java
#3418 [20:35] <thunderbeat> have i
#3419 [20:35] <thunderbeat> i have only the minecraft.exe
#3420 [20:36] <thunderbeat> no folder or so i dont know where i get more datas
#3421 [20:36] <lutzee> thunderbeat: you know how to uninstall a program?
#3422 [20:36] <thunderbeat> yes
#3423 [20:37] <thunderbeat> i have uninstall and reinstall than
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#3425 [20:37] <thunderbeat> im no newbie but this problem is new for me
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#3427 [20:37] <lutzee> not minecraft, i think your java install is corrupt, minecraft uses java to run
#3428 [20:38] <lutzee> Open Programs and Features by clicking the Start button Picture of the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking Programs, and then clicking Programs and Features. Select Java, and then click Uninstall.
#3429 [20:38] <thunderbeat> i was do that for afew hours
#3430 [20:38] <KnightGT> hi , i have ubuntu and i have installed java7 on it but when i run minecraft i have a Black screen
#3431 [20:38] <thunderbeat> (sorry im german^^)
#3432 [20:39] <Talk> lutzee: all that for bsod
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#3434 [20:39] <lutzee> KnightGT: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL
#3435 [20:39] <lutzee> talk, you'll need yo do the same ^
#3436 [20:39] <lutzee> Ubuntu and lwjgl 2.8.3 do not get along :p
#3437 [20:39] <thunderbeat> sooo i have uninstall java and reinstall it and reloud pc
#3438 [20:40] <thunderbeat> asnd i have only the minecraft.exe
#3439 [20:40] <KnightGT> oh nvm , java7 bug with java 6 all work fine thanks
#3440 [20:40] <thunderbeat> i have win7
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#3442 [20:40] <lutzee> thunderbeat: the java files are under program files on your PC
#3443 [20:40] <thunderbeat> shoud i must download a older version? :) that done i know it but i will play with the newes
#3444 [20:40] <thunderbeat> t
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#3446 [20:41] <Talk> lutzee: thanks for all the help
#3447 [20:41] <lutzee> ?? java/1.6
#3448 [20:41] <VoxelHead> java/1.6: You can get the latest release of Java 1.6 here: http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp
#3449 [20:41] <lutzee> Talk: no problem
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#3451 [20:42] <thunderbeat> i uninstall now java again and delete the files where not deleted
#3452 [20:42] <Henry> Says my file is damaged and won't open. Have MacBook pro with Mountain lion
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#3454 [20:42] <lutzee> ??> Henry mac/gatekeeper
#3455 [20:42] <VoxelHead> Henry: (mac/gatekeeper) Mountain Lion adds new security to the OS which blocks Minecraft, and any other non-App-Store program, from running. To disable this, go to System Preferences -> Security, and toward the bottom of the first tab, select 'Anywhere'.
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#3457 [20:43] <Talk> lutzee: what should i do with the files i just downloaded?
#3458 [20:44] <lutzee> talk, follow the tutorial, it explains everything
#3459 [20:44] <thunderbeat> now i install it again
#3460 [20:44] <lutzee> Btw to see the .minecraft folder in ubuntu (which should be in ~/) hit ctrl+H
#3461 [20:44] <thunderbeat> and try it
#3462 [20:44] <lutzee> It will make the file explorer show all hidden files and folders
#3463 [20:45] <thunderbeat> i dont run
#3464 [20:46] <thunderbeat> :) i cant do it^^ will you help me with teamviewer? :)
#3465 [20:46] <thunderbeat> t goes faster i think so
#3466 [20:46] <Henry> thank you it worked
#3467 [20:46] <thunderbeat> *it
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#3470 [20:46] <lutzee> >.> It's almost 2am, i'm not sure if i'm up for scrawling through someone elses PC..
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#3472 [20:47] <thunderbeat> ^^ i think me the thame
#3473 [20:47] <thunderbeat> when you are tomorror online?
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#3475 [20:47] <lutzee> Not sure, depends when i wake up
#3476 [20:47] <BlackGyver`> "thame"
#3477 [20:47] <BlackGyver`> Do you have a lithp ?
#3478 [20:47] <thunderbeat> ^^ im so at 7 o 6 pm in this chat
#3479 [20:47] <lutzee> Theres more likely to be someone else around sooner thunderbeat
#3480 [20:48] <thunderbeat> *same^^
#3481 [20:48] <Talk> lutzee: where's the tutorial?
#3482 [20:48] <lutzee> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Update_LWJGL#What_to_replace
#3483 [20:48] <Talk> oh thx
#3484 [20:49] <thunderbeat> i quest the question again at a better time :)
#3485 [20:51] <thunderbeat> bb
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#3489 [20:54] <Talk> lutzee: i dont seem to see .minecraft/bin anywhere in my files, should i search for them using my term.?
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#3493 [20:57] <FORMATTED_X> I am having problems with minecraft in Linux, when I try to connect appears a crash report.
#3494 [20:58] <Steve> I was downloading a mod and it told me to move my saves to a new folder. When i tried to play minecraft it said my worlds weren't there. How can i move my worlds back to minecraft?
#3495 [20:59] <Kanegasi> move your saves back
#3496 [20:59] <Steve> I did. I went to check minecraft but it said i had no worlds.
#3497 [21:00] <Steve> I am very far into the game
#3498 [21:00] <Kanegasi> why would the mod tell you to move saves? what mod is it?
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#3500 [21:01] <Steve> No there was a video to install any general mod. And the commentator said to move the saves to a folder on the desktop.
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#3502 [21:02] <DiskDaemon> Which video is that?
#3503 [21:02] <Kanegasi> you shouldnt need to move your saves at all when installing mods
#3504 [21:03] <Steve> i don't remember the exact name. I have been trying to find it.
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#3507 [21:04] <Steve> I was just following the video.
#3508 [21:04] <lutzee> Talk: sorry, press ctrl+h the folder should be in your users home directory
#3509 [21:04] <FORMATTED_X> http://pastebin.com/mTVR63Cw
#3510 [21:04] <Kanegasi> Steve: and you moved the saves folder back to .minecraft where it was and still no worlds?
#3511 [21:05] <DiskDaemon> Steve: This is a good video about how to install mods http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXP_H4ryjlM
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#3513 [21:05] <Steve> yes kanegasi
#3514 [21:05] <Kanegasi> Steve: move the saves folder back to the desktop, use force update for a fresh minecraft, then move the saves back
#3515 [21:07] <Steve> how do you use "Force update"? Sorry im just a kid...
#3516 [21:08] <Talk> lutzee: i can get to a folder called minecraft by going tyler(my name) net-minecraft but what do i do from there?
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#3518 [21:08] <Kanegasi> ??> Steve forceupdate
#3519 [21:08] <VoxelHead> Steve: (forceupdate) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3520 [21:08] <VoxelHead> Steve: (forceupdate) To do so, start Minecraft, press 'Options' (above the 'Login' button), Press 'Force update!', then press 'Done', and login to Minecraft.
#3521 [21:09] <lutzee> Talk: er is has bin a bin folder in?
#3522 [21:09] <Steve> what do i do then?
#3523 [21:10] <Kanegasi> after the force update is finished, move the saves folder back into the minecraft folder and login and see if you can get to your worlds
#3524 [21:10] <Talk> lutzee: doesn't seem to have a bin file in sighet
#3525 [21:10] <Talk> *sight
#3526 [21:11] <Steve> No it didn't work...
#3527 [21:11] <Kanegasi> is there anything in the saves folder?
#3528 [21:11] <Steve> :(
#3529 [21:11] <Steve> yes there is
#3530 [21:11] <Kanegasi> each world has its own folder in there
#3531 [21:11] <Steve> yup
#3532 [21:12] <Steve> but it wont load onto minecraft sadly
#3533 [21:12] <Kanegasi> and the saves folder is in the .minecraft folder where the screenshots, bin, etc folders are?
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#3536 [21:12] <Steve> yes
#3537 [21:14] <Kanegasi> :(
#3538 [21:15] <Steve> wait, how do i know if the force update is done?
#3539 [21:16] <Kanegasi> oh, you need to login to trigger the force update. when you selected that button, it said "will force!" and then you login to update
#3540 [21:16] <Kanegasi> make sure your saves are back out on the desktop
#3541 [21:16] <Kanegasi> sorry for the confusion
#3542 [21:17] <Steve> darn it didn't work :'(
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#3544 [21:18] <Steve> is that all i can do?
#3545 [21:18] <Steve> is that all i can do?
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#3550 [21:19] <lutzee> hmm
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#3552 [21:20] <lutzee> ??> Talk linux/.minecrft
#3553 [21:20] <lutzee> wat
#3554 [21:20] <lutzee> ??< index
#3555 [21:20] <Steve> ??
#3556 [21:20] <lutzee> ??> Talk linux/.minecraft
#3557 [21:20] <VoxelHead> Talk: (linux/.minecraft) ~/.minecraft
#3558 [21:20] <VoxelHead> Talk: (linux/.minecraft) If you need more details, you should look into learning some of the basics. ~ is your home directory, usually /home/YOURNAME. So ~/.minecraft would be /home/YOURNAME/.minecraft/.
#3559 [21:21] <Kanegasi> Steve: move the saves folder back out onto the desktop
#3560 [21:22] <Kanegasi> Steve: this time, delete the entire .minecraft folder
#3561 [21:22] <Kanegasi> Steve: this time, delete the entire .minecraft folder
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#3563 [21:23] <Kanegasi> Steve: when you delete it, use the force update option again. after you login, close minecraft and the .minecraft folder should be back
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#3565 [21:24] <Kanegasi> Steve: instead of moving the saves folder, move the individual world folders into the new saves folder in .minecraft
#3566 [21:24] <Kanegasi> login normally
#3567 [21:25] <Talk> lutzee: -su: /home/tyler/.minecraft/: is a directory
#3568 [21:25] <Talk> is what i got
#3569 [21:25] <lutzee> Talk: then it's there
#3570 [21:25] <lutzee> did ctrl+H not do anything when in your home directory?
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#3573 [21:27] <Talk> it expanded what was there
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#3575 [21:27] <Steve> OH MY GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!
#3576 [21:27] <lutzee> yes, there should be a .minecraft folder in there talk
#3577 [21:27] <Talk> so far the only dir. there named minecraft doesn't have a bin file
#3578 [21:28] <Kanegasi> Steve: i suggest using magiclauncher.com to install mods. messing with the .jar file just causes trouble
#3579 [21:28] <Kanegasi> Steve: it is a standalone launcher that injects the mods into the class files as they are run, leaving your minecraft install alone
#3580 [21:28] <lutzee> talk the bin folder is a folder
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#3582 [21:29] <lutzee> in term do /home/tyler/.minecraft/bin
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#3584 [21:30] <Talk> term?
#3585 [21:31] <lutzee> terminal..
#3586 [21:31] <Talk> ah
#3587 [21:31] <Talk> sorry
#3588 [21:31] <lutzee> You said term earlier :p
#3589 [21:31] <Talk> yeah, i can't spell
#3590 [21:32] <Talk> XD
#3591 [21:33] <Talk> right, it's a directory, but can it bring me to it? i cant seem to fcind it manually
#3592 [21:34] <lutzee> okay, in the file browser, click the go dropdown menu then press location
#3593 [21:34] <lutzee> then just type in /home/tyler/.minecraft/bin
#3594 [21:36] <Talk> dropdown?
#3595 [21:36] <lutzee> the top bar where file edit view etc is
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#3599 [21:39] <Talk> ok, so i replace those even tough they have the same name?
#3600 [21:39] <lutzee> yes
#3601 [21:40] <Talk> tanks for a;; the help, i know im keeping you up, so if i need more help ill come back
#3602 [21:42] <lutzee> Nah you're not i'm playing minecraft :p
#3603 [21:42] <Talk> i mean tommrow
#3604 [21:43] <Talk> also, what's your minecraft name?
#3605 [21:43] <Talk> ill multiplayer with you sometime
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#3607 [21:45] <Talk> GTG THX!!!!!!
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#3612 [21:51] <BoomerSooner265> Minecraft won't start - getting Java error for memory size - fix from help does not work. Created batch file with correct info, but still does not work.
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#3614 [21:52] <MattG4> I downloaded a texture pack, and the water and lava show a message that says "install latest MCpatcher" but i can't figure out how to do that. Please help, thanks
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#3619 [21:58] <lutzee> MattG4: google mcpatcher
#3620 [21:58] <lutzee> ??> BoomerSooner265 win/dxdiag
#3621 [21:58] <VoxelHead> BoomerSooner265: (win/dxdiag) Press the Win+R keys, and type "dxdiag" (no quotes) in the box. Press enter. If prompted about verifying WHQL, select Yes. Once it has finished loading, click the "Save All Information" button and save it to your desktop.
#3622 [21:58] <VoxelHead> BoomerSooner265: (win/dxdiag) Open the file you just saved, and copy the contents. Paste them on http://pastebin.com/ and click Submit. Then, copy the link in your browser's address bar and paste it into the IRC channel.
#3623 [21:58] <MattG4> Lutzee: What link do i click
#3624 [21:59] <lutzee> MattG4: find a link to minecraftforums.net
#3625 [21:59] <MattG4> Lutzee: and then what?
#3626 [21:59] <lutzee> Everything should be explained on the forum thread for MCpatcher
#3627 [22:00] <MattG4> I've been to thi forum before and i couldn't figure it out
#3628 [22:00] <lutzee> MattG4: well it's a mod, and we can't really help with 3rd party applications/modifications here
#3629 [22:01] <lutzee> You can try asking in #risucraft to get there do /join #risucraft
#3630 [22:01] <MattG4> Is there any way you could just give me a link to download the correct mc patcher because i've tried and all i've gotten was spanm
#3631 [22:01] <MattG4> spam
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#3633 [22:03] <lutzee> I can't it's up to you to work it out, there is probably some useful videos on youtube
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#3639 [22:12] <frogster2313> my minecraft just crashed hlp
#3640 [22:13] <frogster2313> hello
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#3642 [22:14] <Mythix> is there a number i can call for minecraft help or is this the only place?
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#3644 [22:15] <mib_l7g2l9> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
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#3646 [22:16] <Mythix> a while back i tried downloading a minecraft mod but i didnt have something i needed and it mest up and started opening a whole bunch of windows and wouldnt stop, i had to shut down/unplug my computer and i recently tried downloading a texture pack but it did the same thing, is it something with my computer or is it something in the .minecraft?
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#3648 [22:19] <xales> Mythix: Remove the texture pack, then.
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#3650 [22:20] <Mythix> the thing is the texture pack or mod isnt anywhere in my .minecraft so i dont know what to delete
#3651 [22:21] <xales> Texture packs are in .minecraft/texturepacks
#3652 [22:21] <Mythix> i know how to get to it and do it but nothing is there
#3653 [22:22] <xales> ??> Mythix win/reinst
#3654 [22:22] <VoxelHead> Mythix: (win/reinst) You may need to reinstall the locally installed files that Minecraft puts into place.
#3655 [22:22] <VoxelHead> Mythix: (win/reinst) To do so, press your Windows+R keys, type in %AppData% at the dialog, and press Enter. In the window that appears, open the .minecraft directory, and delete everything except for the saves directory that you see therein. Then, try running Minecraft again. Good luck!
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#3657 [22:30] <BoomerSooner265> <VoxelHead> Still there? here is web address http://pastebin.com/Nh2JmpiR
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#3659 [22:31] <mib_cc1zai> !check michaelsloan.zapto.org
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#3662 [22:32] <yellowduck> I forgot how to re-register
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#3669 [22:47] <MyGryphonHasC4> Hey, is anyone here familiar with the old servers, alpha?
#3670 [22:48] <gv> Alpha or classic?
#3671 [22:48] <lukegb> gv, alpha - it's in the question :3
#3672 [22:48] <gv> Just making sure
#3673 [22:48] <lukegb> Oh, fair enough
#3674 [22:48] * lukegb goes back to sleep
#3674 [22:48] * gv waves
#3674 [22:48] <MyGryphonHasC4> lol
#3675 [22:48] <yellowduck> I forgot how to re-register
#3676 [22:49] <MyGryphonHasC4> Basically, I'm broke as hell, so I can't afford the regular minecraft YET
#3677 [22:49] <MyGryphonHasC4> Is there any way I can play with my boyfriend on the old servers? Like, build a world together or something of that kind?
#3678 [22:49] <gv> Then you're talking about classic
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#3680 [22:49] <MyGryphonHasC4> oh, see, I don't even know what I don't know
#3681 [22:49] <gv> I believe it has been discontinued. Or at least, not linked from the front Page anymore
#3682 [22:50] <yellowduck> How do I register??
#3683 [22:50] <gv> yellowduck: with orchestra?
#3684 [22:50] <MyGryphonHasC4> Yeah, it's not linked, but there's a space for it.
#3685 [22:50] <gv> Or irc?
#3686 [22:50] <yellowduck> irc
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#3688 [22:50] <MyGryphonHasC4> http://www.minecraft.net/classic
#3689 [22:50] <yellowduck> orchestra? what's dat
#3690 [22:50] <gv> Then: /magazine nick service register password email
#3691 [22:50] <gv> Er. Sorry.
#3692 [22:51] <gv> Damn auto correct
#3693 [22:51] <gv> And it's /msg nickserv
#3694 [22:51] <MyGryphonHasC4> lol
#3695 [22:51] <yellowduck> lol
#3696 [22:52] <gv> MyGryphonHasC4: if you have access to the server files, it should be as simple as running it and ensuring port 25565 is properly forwarded
#3697 [22:53] <gv> Then you would use minecraft.net/classic/play to find it in the list
#3698 [22:54] <MyGryphonHasC4> OK, where could I find the server files?
#3699 [22:54] <gv> http://www.minecraft.net/classic/list
#3700 [22:54] <gv> Link at the top
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#3702 [22:56] <MyGryphonHasC4> Thank you so much
#3703 [22:56] <gv> Sure thing.
#3704 [22:57] <MyGryphonHasC4> OK, so I run that from my computer, and then my boyfriend and I will be able to play on the same server
#3705 [22:57] <MyGryphonHasC4> ?
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#3707 [22:58] <Grim> is better to have a separate PC to act as server..
#3708 [22:58] <Grim> if you can.
#3709 [22:59] <Grim> I read up.
#3710 [22:59] <Anson> just for info: my problem with crashes of java and out of memory in minecraft is gone... my new (and first :-) install of MC had set video options almost to max (fancy, etc)... have set them lower now and everything works well.
#3711 [23:01] <MyGryphonHasC4> Hah! You're following me all over huh?
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#3714 [23:05] <Gratin> I keep getting this crash error like 30 seconds after Ioad my world
#3715 [23:05] <Gratin> Minecraft has stopped running because it encountered a problem; Exception in server tick loop This error has been saved to C:\Documents and Settings\Andrew\Desktop\multimc\instances\Letsplay\.minecraft\crash-reports\crash-2012-08-26_20.58.32-server.txt for your convenience. Please include a copy of this file if you report this crash to anyone. --- BEGIN ER
#3716 [23:05] <Gratin> crap
#3717 [23:06] <CrusaderDeleters> Gratin: http://www.pastebin.com/
#3718 [23:06] <Gratin> I'll do a paistie
#3719 [23:06] <Gratin> paistie
#3720 [23:07] <Gratin> http://pastie.org/4594987
#3721 [23:07] <Gratin> and now its doing it right when I get on
#3722 [23:07] <CrusaderDeleters> Sorry, we don't provide support for modded minecraft files.
#3723 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Plus
#3724 [23:08] <Gratin> Okay so if I unmod my minecraft, and it doesn't work will you help me?
#3725 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> That's the reason why. The mods you are using are breaking it.
#3726 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Yes
#3727 [23:08] <Gratin> I highly doubt that.
#3728 [23:08] <CrusaderDeleters> Which, that's actually the fix.
#3729 [23:09] <Gratin> Will risucraft help if the mods are the problem?
#3730 [23:09] <CrusaderDeleters> The second line in: "java.lang.NullPointerException
#3731 [23:09] <CrusaderDeleters> at Reflector.callInt(Reflector.java:214)" Is causing the error. Reflector.callInt is part of a mod. They should.
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#3733 [23:11] <Gratin> hmmm :/ Sorry I guess your right
#3734 [23:11] <Gratin> all i'm really using is modloader optifine inv tweaks and autoswitcher
#3735 [23:11] <CrusaderDeleters> Uhhh..... I only know two of the four.
#3736 [23:12] <Gratin> which ones?
#3737 [23:12] <yellowduck> wait, who's autoswitch?
#3738 [23:12] <Gratin> thebombzen's
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#3740 [23:12] <yellowduck> I know the problem
#3741 [23:12] <Gratin> hmm?
#3742 [23:13] <yellowduck> did you try to change the settings of controls?
#3743 [23:13] <yellowduck> *or
#3744 [23:13] <CrusaderDeleters> I know the fix: Don't use autoswitch. 8D
#3745 [23:13] <Gratin> :'( its one of my favorite mods
#3746 [23:13] <Gratin> No I didn't do anything with it
#3747 [23:14] <yellowduck> uninstall it and reinstall
#3748 [23:14] <Gratin> I'm using mmc i've already tried making a new instance
#3749 [23:15] <yellowduck> did you delete that one, download a new one, and install that?
#3750 [23:15] <Gratin> yes
#3751 [23:15] <Gratin> i'll try again
#3752 [23:15] <yellowduck> still didn't do it?
#3753 [23:19] <yellowduck> Does anyone here own or play on a cool server?
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#3755 [23:21] <CrusaderDeleters> smp.gamezgalaxy.com, yellowduck
#3756 [23:22] <yellowduck> how many people?
#3757 [23:22] <CrusaderDeleters> There's many that just come and go, same people daily, usually
#3758 [23:22] <CrusaderDeleters> ~3 online atm
#3759 [23:22] <yellowduck> ~3?
#3760 [23:23] <yellowduck> about 3?
#3761 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> yesh
#3762 [23:23] <Gratin> It didn't work
#3763 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> some may come and go as we speak
#3764 [23:23] <Gratin> I'm just gonna try reinstalling multimc
#3765 [23:23] <CrusaderDeleters> Gratin: Wanna fix it completely? Nomods. :)
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#3767 [23:23] <yellowduck> #smp is deserted
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#3769 [23:24] <Gratin> Crusader, vanilla minecraft is gay. XD
#3770 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> ._.
#3771 [23:24] <CrusaderDeleters> Half true
#3772 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> I like vanilla if there's people to play with
#3773 [23:25] <CrusaderDeleters> I like 1.4. :)
#3774 [23:25] * yellowduck likes Gratin's comment about vanilla minecraft
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#3775 [23:25] <Gratin> My mods work on multiplayer >.>
#3776 [23:26] <Gratin> But, I do play with buildcraft ee and redpower2, I'm just waiting for all the mods to update
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#3789 [23:55] <Gratin> I found out the problem :)
#3790 [23:55] <Gratin> well I solved it
#3791 [23:55] <Gratin> I said **** forge i'm going with modloader
#3792 [23:56] <Gratin> and it worked :)
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